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I don't think I've ever posted here before, but saw this and just had to comment after curiosity got the best of me. OP you posted this months ago: ----------------------------------- //"Dodging a silver bullet? I believe wife was building a silver bullet case against me and I caught her while she was plotting. She was secretly talking with a domestic abuse councilor and communicating with her friends via voice and chat that I was an abuser. Her behavior came increasingly more secretive. She tri…
/r/MensRights17/06/24 04:43 AM
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Well said. I will just keep my head down and note everything privately just in case. Thank guys.
/r/MGTOW30/01/20 02:35 AM
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Right. But we graduate in 4 months and I'm just not sure the stuff she does, while annoying, is worthy of wasting the program heads time with. I'm trying to look at it from a mangerial perspective so to speak and I know that for myself, if an "employee" came to me with something like that, I'd think it's a perfectly fine complaint to have, especially if they're making someone else uncomfortable. ​ But this is really my first verbal "Fucking stop" that I've given this girl, so I want to give her …
/r/MGTOW29/01/20 05:05 AM
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I don't use social media and I don't care enough to chase down her Facebook or whatever she uses. I'm not going to go through with playing with her emotions or asking questions because I'm not getting involved. Hope she finds a good guy, but I'm just too badly burned to trust what she's offering. Even if it's real, I'm okay by myself.
/r/MGTOW23/06/19 11:35 PM
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Lol no, not at all.
/r/MGTOW23/06/19 11:33 PM
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Yeah I'm in that age group, and I've been through the things you mention. No co-workers.
/r/MGTOW23/06/19 11:32 PM
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Yeah it's true what you guys are saying, I should listen. I also just had another conversation with my father about this all and he said to just befriend at most and watch how she changes or doesn't do anything to nurture the friendship, that it will show me everything without the investment. But either way, I enjoy my peace and quiet, you guys have backed up my thoughts, so that's that. Thanks again guys.
/r/MGTOW22/06/19 09:21 PM
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I've listened to this series before, it's a good one. Hmm, now I'm wondering if I really went all the way or not, because I have a difficult time feeling anything for women or this woman either. But I'm only interested because she's a "Good Christian girl" and that's what I had always been looking for.
/r/MGTOW22/06/19 08:16 PM
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I thought I had, and if I hadn't, I would have lost my mind and chased after this woman because of what she's presenting so far anyway outwardly.
/r/MGTOW22/06/19 08:00 PM
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My friend knows my views on relationships and the whole dating scene, but when I discussed this with him, he said "Dude, she's everything you've ever wanted. A nice, wholesome woman of faith. How many are you going to find like her?" And that's what's got me heated up. Yes I shouldn't bother with women at work(I advise people this myself) but I can't help thinking that maybe my friends right. Urgh, the thing is that I'm seriously concerned about what happened to this boyfriend she chased and rea…
/r/MGTOW22/06/19 07:59 PM
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#1? I truly find this hard to believe. Wow.
/r/MGTOW22/06/19 07:55 PM
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That is how I think about this stuff. It was a nightmare in my early twenties because I was always trying to "match up" socially, physically, monetarily. But I never had any peace, I was always working or trying to find an "edge" up over others.
/r/MGTOW18/06/19 03:47 AM
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This is literally the metoo/believe all women bs. It's really baffling how the things women always do in relationships are what feminism is really about. Can't be wrong, can't be judged, always telling the truth...bit by bit. It's really the most blatant power grab ever and everyone just goes along with it.
/r/MGTOW14/06/19 04:22 PM
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Well every-time we'd talk about women, he'd say that "maybe the next one will be what I've been waiting for". He's stuck in the mental phase of thinking that there's a "one" or that it was just a bad pick on his part. It's frustrating trying to get through to him that he's not the problem, but he calls himself a feminist and refuses to hear me out that women aren't all honey.
/r/MGTOW11/06/19 09:39 AM
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That's the thing, everyone is always going on about how hot she is, but I just felt she was putting up a front after my experiences with women. In a way I'm thankful for those shitty experiences because they really opened my naive eyes to how women put up facades of niceness. Her behaviour during all of that sealed the deal for me on her character.
/r/MGTOW11/06/19 09:35 AM
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I really think that he might be. The way he treats the girls and carries himself, it's like a young boy in a grown mans body. I don't mean that as an insult, but rather that he thinks very innocently and that just makes him a target for womens games.
/r/MGTOW11/06/19 09:34 AM
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It was a bit of a stressful situation for me because when I went out to get him, he was visibly shaking and just red with rage. He has a lot of trouble controlling his anger/words sometimes and I warned him umpteen times to not blow up so easily. But hey, his life.
/r/MGTOW11/06/19 09:32 AM
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My man, I've have countless discussions with this dude about his behaviour at lunch breaks and what not. He's 52 and always turned down what I said or turned it into me being intimidated by women. What more did you want me to do? I honestly didn't care about that stuff compared to his work. He's there to work primarily, not discuss relationships.
/r/MGTOW11/06/19 09:31 AM
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I don't think you read what I wrote. That aside, he's an employee and not someone that I spend extraneous time on trying to change their ways. He told me what led to that situation and I told him I'd deal with it, he then took that other girls bait and lost his temper. At that point, it was out of my hands. What did you want me to do? I've pulled him out of the fire more than once, but I couldn't keep him because if I did, head office would come down on me then for allowing him to get away with …
/r/MGTOW11/06/19 09:29 AM
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Right. And I understand that as a manager, but that's why I told him to collect himself and not worry about it because now I knew what had started everything(That other womans comments to him) and that I would deal with it. She just decided to provoke him again because she saw us talking in the office and he fell for the bait. Women do that all the time, and you've got to know how to deal with them without screwing yourself over because white knights and other women are always watching.
/r/MGTOW11/06/19 06:06 AM
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The amount of money he's spent on the women there has to be close to a thousand in these past months. We've talked about this stuff many times one on one during breaks and what-not; but he's always just gone back to it. I think that at his age, there's really no going back.
/r/MGTOW11/06/19 06:04 AM
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It's a very frustrating job most days, but it pays well and I enjoy the work.
/r/MGTOW11/06/19 06:02 AM
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Did you read what I wrote?
/r/MGTOW11/06/19 06:01 AM
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You as well mate! You can get through this bs and be where you want to be!
/r/MGTOW24/05/19 05:22 AM
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Hey ransay! Yeah I commented on your post the other day after I saw it and had posted mine haha. Glad to see though that while I may be younger, there may be some wisdom in me yet then that comes from age. I think knowing that other people have gone through it and that it doesn't last forever can be very helpful. All the best! :)
/r/MGTOW24/05/19 05:22 AM
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Yeah the getting the family involved bit is never fun. I kind of look back on it now though and laugh, it was some CIA level stuff she pulled. Everyone knew she was sleeping with another guy but she told everyone we'd broken up weeks prior. I was the last person to knows, lmao.
/r/MGTOW23/05/19 04:22 AM
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How long were you married for?
/r/MGTOW23/05/19 04:20 AM
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It's totally okay to still be in the thick of things dude. Don't let anyone tell you different or try to convince you otherwise. People will say "forget about it", "just go out and party", bla, bla. And while they do mean well, all that does is shove it aside cause you to never really deal with it. This wasn't the first time I'd been stomped on by a woman in a relationship sense, but this one really hurt as I had plans with her. There were days where I felt that if I got hit by a car, I would di…
/r/MGTOW23/05/19 04:20 AM
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Hey! I started off by stumbling across the MGTOW acronym and whatnot after trying to make sense of it all and finding that my therapist was really going on about forgiveness and so on right away without allowing me to be angry. There was a lot of DariusMGTOW, sandman stuff and other MGTOW youtubers. I fell back in love with philosophy and re-read a lot of letters from Seneca, meditations by Marcus Aurelius, Confucianism and Plato. Confucianism in particular led me to romance of the 3 kingdoms an…
/r/MGTOW23/05/19 04:14 AM
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Haha, holy cows I just wrote something similar and didn't even see your thread until now! But I am in complete agreement, it seems like it has no end while you're in it, but you come out so much better.
/r/MGTOW22/05/19 06:06 PM
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This is good stuff. Well written mate!
/r/MGTOW02/03/19 06:51 PM
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I grew up in those teachings, and somewhere in the back of my mind I always thought "God will set me up in that regard, I'll just focus on my life." Well, that never happened.
/r/MGTOW26/01/19 04:54 PM
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I guess I just don't want to accept that this is it for me. My entire teenage years were filled with being friendzoned and my elders telling me that I'd "find a girl just perfect for you when you're older". I later learned that simply meant, "when you have money and are successful in life", and for a long time, I self sabotaged myself in terms of progress, no joke. I crippled my advancement in life because I was scared that I would only ever get a woman if I became successful and that she would …
/r/MGTOW26/01/19 04:52 PM
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Oh I've always strayed away from social media, it's never been something that interested me as I'm a very private person and don't like people knowing all about my life, good or bad. The way you describe your upbringing though does sound much like mine indeed. It's really depressing and infuriating sometimes when you try to treat women nice and as you and others said, it becomes a turn off for them. I wish some women would treat me nice, that would be a turn on. Who wouldn't want that? Women rea…
/r/MGTOW26/01/19 04:44 PM
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Another poster said the same thing. I've never really understood that though, and it always makes the whole idea of romantic love that much more bitter in my mind. Because if you aren't able to tell someone your vulnerabilities and weaknesses, then what's the point of being in a relationship? Isn't it just a mirage then, an act? What's the point of that?
/r/MGTOW26/01/19 04:41 PM
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As I said in another post, I used to trust that people would tell the truth more often than not. It was a bit naive and I knew that, but I was of the mind that if you treated people right and showed them that they could trust you; that they would in turn open up over time and become trustworthy. Unfortunately that's not how anything happened,
/r/MGTOW26/01/19 04:39 PM
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Yeah. I don't spend money on women anymore, it sucks but it just teaches them to treat you like a chump. Men and women both.
/r/MGTOW26/01/19 03:47 AM
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Thank you. And I totally agree with what you've said, those have been my own thoughts many times when it comes to relationships. I've always known that compromise would be required, because I've had friends, co-workers, family and know that no two people are ever "perfect" like that together. I know I have my own flaws, so I tend to overlook a lot of peoples flaws as well. The thing is, with my relationship, my mother and friends pushed me into it and told me not to be so "picky". There was much…
/r/MGTOW26/01/19 03:46 AM
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Tried that(with the girl I actually was with for a while), it just made me feel like garbage and I was always angry. Eventually I had to let the anger and resentment go, because it wasn't healthy for myself. Just empty handed now is how I feel.
/r/MGTOW26/01/19 03:39 AM
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I realize that, I just actually listen to people and try to take them at their word in the past. It was naivety, belief in people not being shit for no reason I guess. I just hate it because now I can't trust anyone.
/r/MGTOW26/01/19 03:38 AM
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I know what it means, but it's just not for me. As another poster said, I'm too "beta", I really just would like to have a family, a house and...peace? But it just sounds like indentured servitude because everyone keeps telling me that the demands and expectations never end. And I've lived it myself.
/r/MGTOW26/01/19 03:37 AM
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She wasn't anyone of serious note. It was just my first go at women after taking 3 months to try and heal from the asskicking I got prior.
/r/MGTOW26/01/19 03:35 AM
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This actually resonates with me, because the only time I was ever truly happy was when I was just doing things without a care about trying to impress others or anything, As for the isolation bit, I feel like I socialize enough at work. I got burned pretty bad between that girl and my "friends", so I'm okay without such wasted energy. I know it sounds hypocritical, "You can go without friends but not women?", well, I just think sometimes it'd be nice...
/r/MGTOW26/01/19 03:34 AM
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Mmm. I guess that makes sense. That's always been my fear these days with all these allegation stories and divorces/threats you hear about from very well off people. "If they couldn't do it, how could you possibly do it?". It's a very sobering thought though. I guess I just don't want to believe.
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 05:10 PM
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That makes sense, but if we look at it logically it's not so simple as that. ​ 1) Women are human beings. Humans beings are capable of being utter garbage and being great. 2) There are happy couples that exist. ​ So why can't I be part of that?
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 05:08 PM
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lol, I kinda figured someone would say that as soon as I typed it. I can't argue that it's nice coming home to a clean, quiet house. What I should have said is that breaking up the monotony from time to time would be nice.
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 05:06 PM
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When it comes to "pumping and dumping" though. Don't you ever meet someone where you say, "I want more than sex with this woman?". I'm not sure if it's just differences in personality or what, but I have a difficult time viewing women or men as "disposable" in that sense. Either I want someone in my life or I don't, but I don't do half measures so to speak.
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 04:55 PM
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I grew up always wanting to have a family and was raised as many of you probably were the social understanding that women are supposed to be treated nice and concessions made for them. It took me until I was 25 to snap out of that and say, "Why should women be given preferential treatment if we're supposed to be equal?" But even knowing that now, I still do fantasize from time to time of having that family I thought I would have by now.
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 04:53 PM
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What do you mean get past it? You guys have told me this in the past before, but here I am today posting about getting shat over again. I don't understand this frame of mind I'm supposed to reach or how I'm supposed to reach it. I can't just shut off my biological impluses, only control them, but the knowledge that I'm doing that depresses me greatly; so I reach out and get burnt.
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 04:51 PM
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What you're saying is where I'm at though. I make good money, I help people here and overseas, I do things. But it's pretty hollow when in the end I come home after a long day and have no one to share my life with or even just talk too. What's the point of any it then?
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 04:49 PM
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I did take time off in my early twenties to do just that. I at the time was burnt out on women for the first time and did my own thing, yes the women never stopped showing up, but...I just can't shake the mentality that there's something *wrong* with me. Because there were other 20 y/o's that had gf's and were doing just as well or even better than me.
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 04:47 PM
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I know, and the alternative is "have sex with people but don't get into relationships". And that has always been a massive turnoff for me, jumping from bed to bed, carrying along emotional and possibly physical damage. I've thought about what the alternative is, "pump and dump", but that's just not me. How can I complain about stuff in the world, but then contribute to the same stuff I don't like? How does the world get better that way?
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 03:44 PM
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So what am I supposed to do? Just go my entire life thinking that I'm going to get screwed over no matter what I do? How is that not an utterly depressing way to live? I've been staving off depression for so long because I just know how stupid it all is. But I'm a human being, I'm a man, I want to have a strong and fruitful relationship with a woman. Yes, I know the world isn't perfect, but you're seriously going to sit there and tell me I'm doomed to always fail and shouldn't bother with women …
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 03:42 PM
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How many people are posting "sex requires trust between partners" in that thread? What? How does trust come into play when you're blowing a stranger you met at a party or going home with someone? How can you trust them without knowing them? Women are on something special, always double talk.
/r/MGTOW15/01/19 06:42 PM
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I never understood what that "women don't live like men" shtick meant until this memory came back up and I shared it with you guys.
/r/MGTOW09/01/19 05:38 PM
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I think almost all guys have been there definitely. In the case of that co-worker and her boyfriend though, it's just depressing to realize that's how they think. Men treat women the way they would want to be treated, women look at that and are turned off by dignified treatment? It's baffling.
/r/MGTOW09/01/19 05:37 PM
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I don't think it's about dating up necessarily as there's the endless cases of women being married to men that they very clearly "looked up too" at some point, but end up cheating or breaking things off to run around with less resourceful or attractive men. But either way, that exhausting endless competition and "what's new on the menu today?" Mentality is what finally drove me out of dating. It's a very dangerous mindset, especially when children or long term relationships are trying to be main…
/r/MGTOW09/01/19 05:35 PM
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But having "good mates" is just as difficult these days. I find that I'm spending a lot of mental and emotional energy trying to bond with people because getting cast out by a woman and having your so called "good mates" continue running around with her and her friends is an eye opener.
/r/MGTOW14/12/18 06:46 PM
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What amazes me to this day is the non-existent academic notion of toxic femininity. How an entire gender can delude themselves into thinking that they are perfect and can do no wrong is utterly baffling. All the problems are on men.
/r/MGTOW27/11/18 04:21 AM
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Likewise. I think one thing I forgot to mention was the acceptance of love not being what society teaches it as, that being some magical and rare thing that bonds people through difficulty. It was very disheartening because for a long time I thought to myself that I'd find some woman, we'd move together and grow as a unit. But when you realize how reality works and that many people will just have sex or flings with people, married or single; when they barely know the person or just met the same …
/r/MGTOW26/07/18 04:26 PM
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Okay UPDATE time: I did as I said and went and talked to my manager actually today and he said that all I was telling him was news to him and that nobody had told him anything. I explained how some employees were afraid to tell him, how others just brewed resentment and others felt they were treating unfairly. He was often at a loss for words and didn't know what to say at many points. There was no defending of his behaviour either and I called him on that specifically to the same result. I was …
/r/MGTOW22/07/18 02:44 AM
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Dude I'm tired of workplace fraternizing and drama. I want less, not more lol. Plus I don't even give a damn about the cheating, I'm posting on MGTOW; what other people do is their business. I don't care about that.
/r/MGTOW22/07/18 02:37 AM
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Ugh. I just hate work place politics/drama so much. I told my manager straight up when I noticed how buddy buddy those two were to be careful and not become blinded. And here we are a few months later with everyone talking behind each other's backs and people feeling resentful. There was another employee who wanted her husband to work with us and he said no because of the no fraterization policy. But he's hanging out with this guy all the time and even fucking his sister that works under him.
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 04:24 PM
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The office is very dysfunctional right now indeed and my timeline/wording may be wonky due to me purposefully trying not to be detailed on the internet. And as for his suspension, it was supposed to be for 3 days but I'm not sure what happened because he was back the next day.
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 04:22 PM
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He told me the other day that he could do my job and that it wasn't that hard. I did as you said and didn't get angry even though I wanted to fire him on the spot and as I said earlier, told him to watch himself and get back to work.
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 04:17 PM
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I've been quietly recording things in my work journal and taking pictures of incomplete/flat out not done jobs. Another manager has been doing the same.
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 04:16 PM
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They're both blasian.
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 04:15 PM
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Yikes that's a whole other barrel of shitty behaviour right there. How long did you work there for?
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 04:14 PM
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This is what I think makes pure logical sense. But again, I'm concerned that they might be fired.
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 04:13 PM
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Well your concern is part of the reason why I've been so annoyed by this behaviour much more than usual. I was indifferent to their messing around at first, but when he started overlooking complaints about this worker and giving him bonuses is when I got heated. I don't believe I can be fired though because I get along well with everyone else and keep my nose to the grindstone. But the atmosphere in the building is complete shit and I honestly don't trust my manager anymore.
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 04:12 PM
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Length of my post couldn't be helped. I was attempting to give as much information as possible to illustrate the situation, instead of just coming off as "Fuck this person". As for how important my colleague is, I would say very important because of his relationship with our manager and our manager sleeping with his sister. I'm going to moving into a new role in the same department soon anyway so I'm hoping not to see either of them at all anymore, but it's still incredibly messed up. Morale is …
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 08:48 AM
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Well considering she said that she thinks about him...It's just shocking seeing all that you guys talk about play out(again) in real life. I expected better from her.
/r/MGTOW07/07/18 03:50 AM
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Nah, It's a common trope all over apparently. I know she mentally means well, but not in this day and age am I gambling with that on just anyone.
/r/MGTOW06/07/18 05:53 PM
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Your mother tried her best. Your sisters and Aunt are trash, don't talk to them if you don't want too.
/r/MGTOW06/07/18 05:40 PM
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Seriously. I have never in my entire life heard someone say "Be a woman" or "woman up" when women act like complete children. But of the *two* times I've cried in my adult life, I've been told to "man up" and looked at with a mixture of embarrassment and pity. It's downright insulting the way we are supposed to bear the burden of...whatever the heck "Manhood" is supposed to be these days(Resources). Yet women are the ones crying about wanting to be equal to men, but getting it both ways without …
/r/MGTOW06/07/18 05:07 PM
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I mean by her wording, I believe she meant that *I* could run around and do the same thing. But I find it utterly disgusting the thought of being intimate with someone I just met or barely even know. It's basically a transaction at that point, why bother going on a date or asking them out? It's basically paid prostitution at this point.
/r/MGTOW06/07/18 05:54 AM
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I am not the type to have casual sex and inronically enough, doing so for me personally would just be because I don't respect women and I'd be using them as sex toys. It's so maddening how backwards things have become. I want one good solid girl to build a life with, she doesn't need to be a fucking model or anything; just simple, down to earth and not partying or tatted up with trashy things. I kept telling myself to remove my ego from it and that I had to lower my standards, and look where it …
/r/MGTOW26/04/18 06:46 AM
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I go for walks all the time to think and exercise. I have considered that I'm jealous many times, but I'm not...I'm not jealous of the guys that sleep with many women or the women that sleep with many guys, I'm not jealous of the one night stands, the broken hearts or the other disastrous flings and whatnot that occur. I'm scared that I will end up effectively "rewarding" someone that's been doing all of that(like the girl I was seeing before) and give her a good life while she gives me leftover…
/r/MGTOW26/04/18 06:42 AM
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That's the thing though, I keep coming back to the anger and it is not going away.
/r/MGTOW26/04/18 06:39 AM
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But how do I let it go? How do I go from "I'm waiting for the right girl and I know she's out there because I'm not special". Only to land on "lol, girls have endless men throwing themselves at them and not a single one past 16 knows what self restraint means". It sickens me how so many of them portray themselves these days, basically selling themselves on social media and putting their hearts and bodies through the wringer, thinking that there aren't consequences for doing so. And then I'm supp…
/r/MGTOW26/04/18 06:38 AM
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But do you comprehend the gravity of what you're saying?" Because that's what I'm struggling with. "Love isn't real", then what the hell have I been holding fast for? That no matter how nice a woman I meet, she is going to be no different than the "bad" ones sooner or later? What kind of life is that?
/r/MGTOW26/04/18 06:34 AM
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What I "wanted" was a family and someone that would walk in step with me. I have spent my entire life thinking, "The world isn't perfect, but we can be better." I have turned down opportunities for all sorts of pleasures because I strongly beliieved in rising above baseness and selfishness. Yet here I am.
/r/MGTOW26/04/18 06:32 AM
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I just can't escape this phase guys. I thought I was through it a few times, but I always end up feeling like a loser that's "given up" or like that van killing yesterday, the whole mainstream media is now going on about how we're misogynistic and all losers, etc. I just can't seem to escape this and is throwing me into a depression that's taking away all my will to go on. I just don't know what to do. All my life I got the "you'll find the right girl", "try church", etc and everywhere I go it's…
/r/MGTOW26/04/18 01:15 AM
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Thanks, I'll check it out.
/r/MGTOW11/03/18 10:06 PM
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Wow. I don't even know where to begin. Maybe this will give you some comfort though op, you're not alone in this. Many, many men have gone through hell for women, treated them well, etc and ended up being cast aside and villified. You will rarely meet a woman who will say that she ruined a relationship, it's always your fault. But it's not, rise up.
/r/MGTOW06/03/18 08:33 PM
6

hahaha wtf? "My marriage was at a low point, I went to the hotel for some "fun" and didn't expect anything to happen". WHY do women lie like this so much? This reeks of the #metoo bullshit, "We went back to the hotel together, I didn't expect anything to happen". ugh.
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 08:05 PM
12

So this really is a thing, huh? Same thing happened to me. Family disaster=/="How dare you have a breakdown? Bye!" Women. Use. Men. As. Tools.
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 07:55 PM
2

This is an excellent analogy.
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 07:48 PM
3

Haha, yeah this too.
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 07:48 PM
1

Nah, I won't take her back...I think? Smack me if you want, but it's hard to let go so easily for me anyways. Every time I think of her, I just imagine her sleeping with that other guy and the party they went to on my birthday of all days, while I was at home crying and it makes me want to vomit. So while I don't like her and am actively trying to remind myself how vile she was in behaviour; I don't hate her and don't want to touch her at all to have revenge sex. That's not what love is supposed…
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 07:46 PM
1

That's usually what I tell myself too, ahah. But where else can we have these discussions and let our true feelings out? Maybe some close friends, yeah; but if you guys think I'm blue pill/beta...my friends are much, much worse lol. Still got love for them though/
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 07:42 PM
1

Why? I'm not a bastard by any means. In fact I think I'm far too soft, or at least used to be and am growing out of that. I enjoy listening to peoples stories and women love to go on about how unique they are, so it just happens that a lot of women enjoy talking to me. Mind you when I was in great shape this was an eye opener for me as many, many girls would come to me "crying" about their relationship problems and not so subtlety imply leaving their bf's for me, one girl straight up offered to …
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 07:41 PM
1

Love means for me that the person I'm with is loyal to me, wants the best for me and isn't afraid to be her own person. That we support each other, but don't stand on each other. So yes, for me love does mean having a lock and key on her vagina, because a big part of love is trust. And if I can't trust that she has my best interest at heart(my health is important) and is sleeping with other people, ignoring my emotional/mental states because she's too busy hitting up other men, then that's not l…
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 07:37 PM
1

That's where I failed "Being mentally tough to drop them". I had my suspicions about my girl, caught her lying about not sleeping with an ex and still said "I made a promise to love her, I won't kill it over this". ahahaha....boy, did she show me her side of that promise.
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 07:34 PM
2

Nah. I'm a lot more "meh" about women even though I work with a lot of them. I play it up and I don't hate or dislike them, but I don't go out with them or take their words seriously anymore. Everything always boils down to "my feelings changed", which in a vacuum can be excused. But I find it strange that such profound promises can be broken while breaking their phone contracts scares them more. What world do we live in where "I will always love you" is of less value than "I will stay signed up…
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 07:32 PM
1

It honestly disturbed me when that girl offered me the bj. I and some friends laughed about it after, but we ended up talking about it and how there's no point in asking girls about their past because they want their cake and to eat it as well. I thought the posts about 100+ lays for both men and women were a joke, but it's clearly not. I don't think people are less for it, but my mind was always filled with this notion that women especially didn't just sleep with anyone and that they were a lot…
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 07:29 PM
1

Correct. You and the other poster are 100% correct about that, and it was a realization that I came to as well. If I saw a naked woman in a dark alley who was perfect in my eyes and there was nobody around for miles; I'd give her my jacket, not rape her. Just because a situation exists where base desires are strong, doesn't mean that we can't choose to use our brains and be better. That's what separates us from other animals.
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 07:26 PM
1

You're right, and that's something that I've worked hard on changing. All my life it's been a bunch of "no's", especially growing up black in a small city. So I just became a "yes" man and had a broken philosophy of "Try to say yes because the world is full of no's", stupid huh? It wasn't until last year that this really habit finally stopped though. Unless I'm getting paid, I don't go out of my way to fix things for people unless they're on the side of the road and I have time or something.
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 07:23 PM
2

Yeah, same thing happened to my boss and his first marriage. They didn't even get to the altar before she cheated and left him for his best friend...I just feel like such a misanthrope sometimes because of the way people betray so deeply.
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 07:19 PM
1

This is a very good way of putting it, and it's something that I've struggled with. Sometimes I want to just punch him in the face; other times I just chuckle to myself and say "Well he didn't kidnap her or rape her, it was her choice". But it's incredibly terrifying, you know? Six years can be thrown away just like that? For someone you barely even know?
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 07:18 PM
1

You're correct in that there are "better things to be stressing about" than women. And you know, I do think about those other things, I used to be very into the concept of love; and my own mother told me that she was worried that one day I'd marry a woman who'd walk all over me because of that. And well...I ended up dating a woman that did just that...it took a lot for me to stand up for myself because I felt very confused. I will be old one day, but...I'd like to believe that someone will sync …
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 07:16 PM
3

See, this is my struggle with mgtow and my own thoughts prior to learning about it as a concept. How is it that I have managed to go my entire life without being a raging pos? I know it sounds childish and basically boils down to "whaaa why are there bad people in the world?" but by that notion itself, saying that there are bad people; doesn't the OPPOSITE apply? How is it possible that AWALT is a thing?
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 07:40 AM
2

Again, "cheating is pretty much part of the culture, accept it or don't". You're fine with that? Am I just failing to adapt here or something? I get that it sounds like a whole lot of "he said she said" stuff, but you need to understand that it terrifies the hell out of me when someone can look you in the eyes, say "I love you with all my heart" while cheating on you. No mater how much I am conflicted by modern relationships, I'm still human and would like to be in one that actually works.
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 05:54 AM
3

To be honest with you guys, I've sweated taking my girl back these past few months over and over again. I think I'm finally at the point where I'll just politely tell her no if that day comes, but if it doesn't, I won't mind either way. What made this happen though was my friends girl cheating on him, him trying to get her back and her just laughing in his face and leaving with her new man. It was then that I saw just how ruthless and quickly women can switch up. Forgive? Sure, I can forgive hum…
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 05:52 AM
3

I care because I seriously thought that the girl from work was genuine and really knew what love meant. Everyone in this community in always going on about AWALT and it's utterly depressing. You mean to tell me that I will never, ever find a woman that will love me and stay by my side? That it's always going to end sooner or later in flames? I know many of you are of the pump and dump or monk mentality. But for me, I truly do want a wife and a family someday.
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 05:49 AM
2

And this doesn't bother you? "Morals don't exist anymore. Have fun!"? I can't in good conscience throw into the very same level of bs that I hate.
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 05:47 AM
10

So what was your solution? I've always been told that I'm a nice person by others, but I really hated that word in highschool and university because I learned it had another meaning when it came from women most of the time. But I...don't know how else to live my life? I'm nice to both men and women alike, I help if I can and while I have admittedly been a people pleaser in the past; I grew out of that quickly and don't burn myself to help others. But there are certain things such as going after …
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 12:49 AM
3

You have some excellent articles or your site, very well written and cutting to the chase. Good stuff.
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 12:01 AM
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I think I'll browse more than post. The reason i left last time was because while I think I was always a mgtow or on the verge of anyway, learning about mgtow as a thing after my breakup and coming here led to a lot of bad thoughts. I'm not really interested in relationships anymore, but I was teetering on hating women. That's not the point at all.
/r/MGTOW04/03/18 11:42 PM
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Well it's as that guy said, "I'm not interested in dating anyone. I'm just going to hit it for as long as she lets me. If she left her bf to be with me, then that's his problem". It's a horrible way of thinking, but I can't blame him. It's just not right for me.
/r/MGTOW04/03/18 11:40 PM
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He pursued a woman that was already in a relationship. That was the squeeze he went off on, it wasn't instant and it took two months to reach this point where they finally had sex yesterday. And how common is it for men to be the ones being doled out on in relationships? Men always work more. That aside, you are correct that I thought the other girl was "nice" but that was because she seemed like it. Am I disappointed? Yes, but as I said; it's not like I was asking to date her or anything, she h…
/r/MGTOW04/03/18 11:39 PM
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Not at all. Just to say that what I always felt was true(Relationships are a lot more work with no sense of solidity compared to doing things for yourself) and that while I find the MGTOW hype and discussions therein to be extreme and petty at times, the idea of dating being a sham is one that every boy and man should be made aware of. Too many divorces, breakups and cheating for selfish and stupid reasons.
/r/MGTOW04/03/18 11:02 PM
2

Pregnancy law ss a very infuriating thing for me to wrap my head around at times. I don't see why if something is part of my genetic makeup, I don't have a say in it but the woman has 100% decision making rights. If women want to entrap men, then men shouldn't have to pay for their disgusting behaviour.
/r/MGTOW04/01/18 01:59 PM
1

done
/r/MGTOW04/01/18 06:24 AM
3

Is anyone else scared at how women are brazenly stating things like this these days? When did this become normal?
/r/MGTOW29/12/17 07:00 AM
10

Agreed. Lots of men won't believe, but it really is that common for women in relationships to step out and those not in them are even more promiscuous. I think most reasonable men become Chad but many also refuse to encourage it and always ask first whether the woman is single or not. And even then, there are no guarantees. It sucks.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 09:14 PM
2

She wasn't wrong though?
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 08:46 PM
1

I actually made a...long post about this phenomena this morning and we had a good discussion about it.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 08:14 PM
6

"We want to be respected" Clear word there being want. It must be nice to live as a gender demanding respect because of what you have rather than what you do.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 08:13 PM
13

Don't you know it's always the man's fault?
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 06:23 PM
25

I think I'm going to be sick.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 06:13 PM
1

To each our own of course but I feel that what you're suggesting is quite wrong.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 05:46 PM
3

I can't believe that I'm about to say this. But don't you think that your viewpoint here is sexist? I loathe promiscuity with a passion myself as I can be a germaphobe and more than that, often times the way people get said relationships are through being unwilling participants in infidelity or active participants. The lies, diseases and lack of character causes a lot of women to be unappealing to me. But in the scenario that I presented to you, you'd seriously turn down someone who'd been in a …
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 05:32 PM
2

Okay, and what about you? If you date and find your "one" but it ends or she cheats, are you now a leftover?
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 05:10 PM
2

Well said.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 04:41 PM
3

So you don't think you could live up to and exceed her first? Even if it was some grimey dude from highschool? I know that one avenue of cheating is often "An old friend from highschool reached out to me" and people fuck off to relive their finally get their fantasies out. But I don't think it makes much sense to push out a woman because she's had sex with only one person. What number works for then? And why?
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 04:40 PM
2

This was probably the best way of explaining this concept that I've ever come across. Typically it comes off as revenge fantasies from the stuff I've watched on Youtube and read elsewhere of women getting their "just desserts". I found myself putting young me and current me into your scenario and agree that physically as men, we don't change as much with age; whereas women do(gotta get the babies out) by nature. If for example I found myself back in highschool with my current experience and inco…
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 04:38 PM
2

Did you hear the news about their new rape law? Lmao. Canada isn't perfect, but I appreciate it's openness and fairness. Too bad it's been hijacked by extreme liberalism the last few years.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 04:31 PM
3

I still don't believe her about her #'s based on the amount of roadtrips and vacations she took with her girlfriends. And there is one guy in particular I know of that really likes her and has liked her for a long time. He's pretty well off and she often brings up how he's texting her and asking her out every few months. I eventually asked her why she simply didn't block him if she didn't want to give him a shot and she just rolled her eyes at me. Probably my first AWALT moment. Still, her odds …
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 04:29 PM
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And what is this reality?
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 04:26 PM
1

And go where? This is all that I know and it's actually nice here apart from the crazies. I met a girl from Sweden and based on the things she said an hour into knowing her, Canada is paradise in comparison.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 04:25 PM
1

Again. Many of us men are now refusing long term relations and specifically marriage, we warn each other to bring our own condoms, make sure we watch women take the pill if an accident happens, etc. So why not be interested in women past their due date? Less chances to zero chance as they get older, right? I'm not seeing how the modern woman is losing here.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 04:23 PM
4

A lot of men don't want to have children these days though. So why wouldn't a well off man be interested in a woman who can't bare children?
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 04:22 PM
2

If that's what you think then I have no way of convincing you otherwise. All I can say is that I've turned down more sexual prospects for the sake of "the one" and now find myself regretting at times whether I've lived the right way or not.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 04:21 PM
2

What if she dates in her early years(1 guy) is very serious and believes that he'll stay with her, but he gets bored and leaves or cheats. Is she no longer worth marriage just because it wasn't you? See I'm willing to go 5 and under by the time she's 25 and no history of hooking up or using her body as meat. You can't blame a woman for being sexual with someone she thought she had a future with, because men can be just as cruel and flakey. The only problem I see is the whole "When a good girls g…
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 04:18 PM
8

This was good.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 04:15 PM
1

The argument is that The wall=less fertility/decline in looks and that there are always younger women coming up. But the counter to this is that MGTOW/Picky men/Those with sense these days DON'T want to get married or have children in most cases anyway. So why does the wall matter if people are terrified of getting into relationships that could lead to children and tied to crazy women who jack half their shit? Wouldn't a lot of men prefer that than young and fertile women?
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 04:15 PM
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That seems reasonable, but I look at something like prince Harry and whatever her name is who's a divorcee and I don't know what to think. Why would he choose her?
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 04:08 PM
4

I don't want to hold picture frames anymore.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 04:07 PM
3

Do you really think it's that difficult to get sex?
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 04:07 PM
1

I will get married if I find a unicorn or simply adopt. I want to have children and raise a family, but I refuse to go through what so many do and marry for "love". Frankly I think marrying as a pure business decision makes more sense these days.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 03:46 PM
0

I understand that. But what does a womans looks truly matter when it's so easy for them to doll themselves up and have an array of push-up bra's etc to look good? The fact remains that men are our own worst enemy.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 03:44 PM
4

Why would I vote for someone who thinks "gender equality" means purposefully limiting others from working in parliament?
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 03:41 PM
3

I always tell myself "Fuck it. Just go sleep with a bunch of women and use them as well" but I have a very active consciousness and being raised to respect and treat people fairly has saved me from a lot of stupid things. It's strange, when women compliment me or flirt these days; I actually find myself being turned off and worried about what road it's going to lead down. I have yet to meet anyone in our generation 20-30's that is legitmately happy in their marriage or relationship. A co-worker …
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 03:39 PM
2

The only "wall" that I've noticed amongst my male friends and colleagues is that often when they get thrown into the wind, they seek out to improve themselves and unlike women; usually end up benfitting with much better personal growth and achievements. Women face a mental wall in that for a lot of them, simply going on to the next man or men often leaves them without time to reflect or see where their failures are. So they end up with the princess mentality because they never stop to think "Wha…
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 03:30 PM
6

I used to think that men who pumped and dumped were trash and "using" women. Now I look at them and think "That's a smart man". What a joke our society is.
/r/MGTOW04/12/17 05:06 AM
3

Thank you. I'm just annoyed because I unknowingly was MGTOW for about 5 years prior to all of this, I flirted with maybe 3 girls during that entire period and was happy as can be. I hung out with friends, gamed, went camping, rock climbing, whatever. I never hurt for money and could do whatever, whenever. Then this one dumb decision messed me up emotionally to the point where now I feel like something is missing in me without a woman.
/r/MGTOW04/12/17 05:05 AM
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Yeah for all the "women want to be treated well and not be viewed as objects", they are pretty quick to run away if you ask to get to know them first. I think(now) that it's because as I've learned from MGTOW, a lot of them don't have much to offer apart from sex and they(rightfully) think we'd end up rejecting them because we're not blinded by the sex. It's fucking depressing.
/r/MGTOW04/12/17 05:03 AM
4

I was stressed out beyond belief being with her. I truly thought about dumping her a couple of times but stuck with it because I did care about her and believed that she did for me. But dragging her from random bars, nearly getting into a fight because some other guys wanted to take her home, sleeping with her "abusive" ex and lying to me about it...and the alcohol abuse was just too much. I was constantly spending money to make nice dinners for us(only for her to show up drunk once and collapse…
/r/MGTOW04/12/17 05:02 AM
1

:/ Doesn't sound like much fun.
/r/MGTOW04/12/17 04:57 AM
6

No. I said that the women who were interested in me always had bf's at the time and that I struggled to find a partner who wasn't of that character. Thus the dread that maybe modern relationships are really that ugly or that I am somehow attracting those types. I never slept with any of those women, I have my self respect.
/r/MGTOW04/12/17 01:01 AM
1

Do you try to date women then or enter into relationships?
/r/MGTOW04/12/17 12:35 AM
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All those women are out of my life now and I don't even look at them when I come across them. It was probably the most toxic group of people that I've ever been around and I truly felt like a lamb in a lions den with them. People told me to be more outgoing and "give people a chance" and I just chose poorly.
/r/MGTOW04/12/17 12:35 AM
6

That's what I feel afraid about. "It's all been a big lie?" and why I keep wanting to try again.
/r/MGTOW04/12/17 12:33 AM
5

What do you mean by "the rest will come into place"? I was in great physical shape, made good money and had ambition. Then I let that girl into my life and it all went to shit real quick due to me not setting hard boundaries, and trying to keep the relationship going while she took and took. I fucked that up hard, I agree. But what I'm saying is that even when I was good and did not care about getting a girlfriend at all, I was approached by women who were not up to any good i.e; they always had…
/r/MGTOW04/12/17 12:33 AM
21

I don't know? I'm very much that cliche "nice guy" story. I've always been told that I'm kind, hard working, loyal, generous, thoughtful, charming and have had women hit on me. You would think that with all those qualities I'd have no trouble finding a modest and warm partner. But it's always been party girls that come after me for the most part and or girls already in relationships and trying to jump to me because "I'm a catch", but I always shun them since I don't like that kind of behaviour. …
/r/MGTOW03/12/17 11:12 PM
1

This is terrifyingly similar to my story. What the what. Have you ever dated before though? How did you approach it as a person of faith? I tried Catholic girls initially but striked out a lot, I decided to open my net to everyone and not judge based on faith. But it seems that regardless of faith or not, good people in general are hard to find. I'd like to hear more about your experiences if you're willing to share?
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 12:40 AM
1

Interesting. It seems that you and I are nearly identical in our stories and how we feel about this whole relationship/family thing. It's funny, I thought I'd have a family by now and at least two children with a wife that stood strong by me and supported the family with me. I still fantasize about it, but seeing the women around me and the attitudes they have; it's just one giant knot of stress as you said. Best of luck to you too bro.
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 12:19 AM
1

What the heck? How many of these girls are out there? I'm curious though...how long did you gauge her for? And did you know about her behavior before going in and think that she would change?
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 12:06 AM
2

A lot has happened in the past 6 months, lol.
/r/MGTOW21/11/17 11:25 PM
1

Thank you Sufjan. I really would like a family one day and I am focusing on finishing school so that I can entertain the idea. The struggle with that is as you obviously said, finding the right person to get that started with. To say that I have trust issues now would be an understatement, but the "idea" of love still gets to me, you know? I know there are good women out there; but what relationship starts off bad? None. It's just a monumental headache and as you said, red flags make that much e…
/r/MGTOW21/11/17 11:24 PM
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