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temparooney/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 01:16 PM
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"No wonder you're not married." I like that. She earned it. Do no less than this. Forget the other stuff, jump straight to this. Do some damage. Change the dynamic of your relationship with your sister. That one comment will do it. Her hatred is better than her disrespect.
/r/askTRP28/06/14 04:03 AM
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You crossed a line and that's a good thing. What is seduction, game, but crossing a few lines in order? She admitted your victory right there. Maybe the line you crossed is that you have overcome her position of separation. Seriously, you can probably take her back to normal sex if you want now. There was a line but you crossed it.
/r/askTRP26/06/14 08:14 AM
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Save them anyway, what does it hurt?
/r/askTRP26/06/14 08:11 AM
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She has feelings for the first guy, the guy who dumped her. She doesn't consider you above him, so she doesn't mention him to you. Maybe she'll never be able to get a guy like him and will remain available to you. This is normal. After all you are not exclusive. But that's what I think it is. She has dreams / hots for the first guy.
/r/askTRP25/06/14 09:59 PM
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Kudos to you for the courage to take such classes. I took the easier way out: engineering.
/r/AlreadyRed25/06/14 08:15 PM
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If society doesn't care about me, I shouldn't care about society. Leave that to the women, or generally to those to whom society directs its benefit programs.
/r/AlreadyRed25/06/14 08:12 PM
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For me it would have left something undone. I did the marriage/kids thing fairly late, after I'd done most of the other things I wanted to do in life, at least a little bit. So what was left? This big project. 20 years in, no clear end in sight and I am getting tired of it ... but the kids now would be OK even if I went my own way.
/r/AlreadyRed25/06/14 04:11 PM
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Gervais says this clearly. Losers and sociopaths have a lot in common. Clueless are like the administrators in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Worthy of derision from both sides.
/r/AlreadyRed25/06/14 03:22 PM
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This is short, simple and wrong. I agree with the definition of "sociopaths". There are two parts. Seeing how things are, and having the balls / amorality to do them consistently, that being top-of-mind. I remember once how I got shut out of some business communications after I showed an inadequate sole focus on profit, by mentioning a sort of market balancing effect twice. Clueless are not really naive. They ride on top of the losers. Good? Not so much. Losers are everyone else, either those wh…
/r/AlreadyRed25/06/14 03:18 PM
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I'm no expert, but Powertalk is the way you naturally talk when you own something. If you're chatting with your neighbor, and the subject of what you and he can do on the line between your two properties, every comment will have some possible bearing on the outcome. You may be discussing whatever, but you'll have in mind that you want to put a swimming pool in there closer than the town setbacks allow and you don't want him causing trouble at the hearing to get a variance. Or whatever. You have …
/r/AlreadyRed25/06/14 03:15 PM
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I like it. The insight that this situation isn't really much different from other situations that can be turned social. I don't know that much about PU, so maybe my knowledge really is old-school. Actually I'm an old married guy with kids and the game I have to play mostly is relationship game. What references would you suggest?
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 04:33 PM
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Give her a motivational speech to help her imagine herself solving math problems successfully on that math final exam? It might help her, but how does that help you? The challenge is to take her where she is -- a mercenary with a need for rescue from her math difficulty -- to where you can be stimulating her with such words.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 04:23 PM
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Have you polled them? Will no more people seeking this info log in later? It seems you (or you and some others) are trying to stop discussion of this topic, and you're using your own time and energy to do it! I could thank you for the compliment. I can just feel the estrogen ...
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 04:17 PM
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Why do you think I am proposing to play by her rules? If I cannot stimulate attraction, it still doesn't mean I am in a female role. It simply means I am a man who has not stimulated attraction in this woman but I still want to get something from her.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 04:15 PM
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I like this. I guess that in this interaction she will always feel she is dangling sex out there, as long as she sees you as high value. And if you're the one she tries to use to do her STEM homework, she's chosen you because of high value. So your techniques in the 2nd paragraph would work. I should read more on "agree and amplify" techniques, this one is clever.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 04:11 PM
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You have power once she's invested. That's a basic principle in business and economics and elsewhere too. I am not suggesting that you ask her what's in it for you. She'd just turn that around and complain to her friends about you. You have to get her to invest a bit. That's game after all. So maybe we start by building comfort and investment. Start by arranging a sort of date, have her meet you somewhere specific like a Starbucks, get her bring her work there, say you don't want to embarrass he…
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 03:54 PM
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Good post. Agree on the beta competition part, especially beta white knights. Here we can only convert them, one man at a time. We have far to go, many of them are still out there. But if men seek ideas like I am doing here rather than giving in and providing the demanded technical help, this problem will be diminished. She'll be faced with an array of men, each of which may demand something in return for giving value to her. She will be induced to behave more righteously in the only way women c…
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 03:44 PM
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That's why I said in another reply that she should be induced to invest. Indeed if you ask for money up front, as someone suggested, she'll just find a sucker to do it for free. Nah, she's gotta be induced to invest in the "relationship". Saying "you can't win" has got to be wrong. Come on, man! If you're the geek she's asking for help (and even if you're not) you are smarter than she is. Use it.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 03:39 PM
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Please take your ad-homs elsewhere. My question is simply a research question, the answers usable by anyone who reads them.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 03:32 PM
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I don't think so. It really is something that she could complain to her friends about. It would make you look bad (mercenary) and make her look good. It is unlikely to get you much. She'll find another sucker. Yes this is an honest and straightforward righteous response. Since when has that been good game?
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 03:27 PM
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You're assuming a lot, incorrectly. And why wouldn't I have success? Should I "be the bigger man" and "man up"? lol
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 03:13 PM
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Quite a bit of game is strategies that women already use. Aren't we out-womaning women already? (I think Heartiste agrees with me here.) When it comes down to it, game is about empathy (understanding the person you're dealing with) and using that knowledge. If you're so masculine that you're not interested in delving into female thinking, I don't think your game will be very effective. Am I right?
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 03:12 PM
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If it works, sure. How does that work? "Hey I am sort of busy now but if I can get to know you for the next couple of weeks we'll go to the Caribbean together on the break and I'll help you prepare for your math final!" Nah, this doesn't really fit. So how would you fit this beta-bucks tease into the given situation? She can't really complain to her girlfriends that she fucked you in exchange for a promised luxury vacation but you didn't pay off, so it's good and low-risk in that way. And beside…
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 03:02 PM
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I don't want to wait 20 years for someone else to enjoy that at her HS reunion. I want my fun NOW! :) And then I still get to attend my own reunion too.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 02:57 PM
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Hehe go back over to /r/manhaters, they appreciate you there. All I did was ask a question.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 02:50 PM
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Regarding point 1, suppose this girl is around (say, in your dorm) and she can exert social pressure on you. Granted, alpha mannerisms will blunt that, but still maybe fucking her isn't in the cards. Heck maybe you don't even want to fuck her. Or your reputation is set for the moment, and you can't "next" your whole social environment. Regarding point 2, you're saying that I should be doing something else rather than thinking about this question. But I am a scientific sort, and I like to think a…
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 02:49 PM
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There can be, if men act sneakier rather than less sneaky than the women. Really women are not very sneaky. So men can win such a battle of wits. Ask women if you don't believe me, I bet they would agree with me on this. And their opinion would matter, because it's not asking for advice, but data about women.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 02:39 PM
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I like the idea of asking for something first, but here's a problem. I've seen situations where she'd act all offended by such a request (I've probably tried it myself) and storm off, and that's also the sort of thing she could try to turn against you by calling you mean or an ass. She could not complain like this once she's further invested in the "relationship" she wants to be one way in her favor. I just realized this now. So you're probably better off to get her to "invest" or get involved i…
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 02:36 PM
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I'm all in favor of raising my value, but if I say so myself, it's already pretty fucking high. Despite the fact that I'm not going to grow six inches taller any time soon. I seem to have asked a forbidden question. I have a poor mindset!? Well what the heck do you do if say you're the math geek, there's some girl around who "needs" your help, but she thinks she's way out of your league, or maybe she even has a boyfriend? As far as she's concerned you're there to be used, and you're kind of stuc…
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 02:31 PM
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From someone with "chivalry" in their nickname. :) I am definitely not expecting the solutions to be chivalrous.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 02:24 PM
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Why? Because I want to. Why does it bother you, do you think women should be able to get away with this stuff risk-free?
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 02:23 PM
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Yes the alpha-magic may be gone, but the premise of my thread is that you're trying to pull some beta-magic. At least at first, she won't be attracted to you sexually. But she will be trying to use you cynically. How do you get her to do things for you with cynical intentions, which you then use without giving her back what she wants? It's probably related to beta-provider game (using the comfort that she has by thinking you're going to be her beta-provider, to lead her toward attraction) but he…
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 02:22 PM
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I really think you overestimate them. Women can really shit on other women. I've hardly seen them do it to men, and it's less effective if they try that stuff on men. Even a 10 female cannot do it effectively to a 3 or 4 male. She'll just hurt her own reputation -- something she cares so deeply about. (This paragraph is a truth that probably merits its own thread, hmmm ...) If they get to the point of feeling they have to retaliate socially, I think you are winning. Then you can laugh off the st…
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 02:15 PM
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That's exactly the point! I want this cockteasing behavior to be risky for women. In a legal way of course.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 02:08 PM
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We need a RP response for this. Sure you may not get her into bed, but when you see her cockteasing like this, how do you take advantage of her to get something from her while giving the minimum in return? At least that way you get some win and keep some self respect. And if at the end she's angry and frustrated about the interaction, better she than me.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 12:59 PM
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So the best thing to do is fuck a bunch of girls anonymously or spread seed via sperm donation. I wouldn't want to end up on that part that didn't survive reproductively. I didn't by the way, I have a family, and I am exceptional, but I should not have to be.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 12:17 PM
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I don't think I've ever seen "downgrade your wife to a plate". Many times "downgrade your ex-gf (or even possibly ex-wife) to a plate" but not current wife. And of course sometimes there's "divorce your wife" but that's usually a serious situation, combined with worry that the guy will get raped in court on the money and custody issues. The then ex-wife's plate status is far enough down the list not to matter in that case. I think you were probably throwing in an exaggeration for effect, and it …
/r/RedPillWomen20/06/14 04:41 AM
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From a theoretical perspective, I don't understand why the woman's advice tends to favor other women. I agree it does, bigtime, and thank you for recognizing that here. But I don't understand why it's true. In the social world, women are in a competitive relationship with each other and don't act as a team at all. One of the classic "game" maneuvers is to hit on the friends of your female friend and benefit from the jealousy it creates as well as having more sex. Not saying it's good or that I'd…
/r/RedPillWomen20/06/14 04:37 AM
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Yeah, banging another girl doesn't mean you have to break up with this one. She bangs a girl, you bang a girl too :) Maybe you can each invite your girls and have a 4 some!
/r/askTRP20/06/14 03:34 AM
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You will do fine. You're undergoing hard times now to make for good times later. Yes I know you're tired of that, but grind out engineering school for now. You won't regret it. You can be alpha, though maybe not in engineering school because of the mindset required. Nothing wrong with being skinny, I wish I were still skinny. In my early 20's I started lifting, the "set point" weight of my body increased to keep up with the upper body mass I added, and I can't go back now. Having some money does…
/r/askTRP20/06/14 02:34 AM
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Telling people in her social circle what she did costs no money and very little time. I didn't say to make it a project, but if he wants to lash out, go ahead. That gets it out of his system and then he can really move on.
/r/askTRP20/06/14 02:23 AM
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It's actually easy to fuck up a woman's reputation. Are you a female troll or white knight troll? Men will be warned about a cheater. Women will often despise her even more. They are moralistic (I didn't say moral) as well as competitive.
/r/askTRP20/06/14 02:10 AM
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Sounds OK to me. You're going into 12th grade next year? Good progress! For Girl A, don't worry about qualifying yourself to her. She sees you can banter and pass shit tests (which you did by the way, by not becoming defensive or humble) so she likes you. You can drop hints of your status when you meet for coffee. So you have girls, and plates too? Good. You'll learn a lot this summer, but I am surprised your parents will let you out to hit on women in town.
/r/askTRP20/06/14 02:07 AM
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Do what comes naturally. If you're mad about it, tell your friends. They are your friends after all, people you tell what's on your mind. Don't worry about seeming butthurt. Anyone would be butthurt if their woman cheated on them. As for technique, do whatever you want! And don't worry about her feelings, she has certainly put herself outside your protection. and it's unhealthy for you to keep those protective impulses that you had while she was yours.
/r/askTRP20/06/14 01:56 AM
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Baloney. Go ahead and ruin her reputation. Hate her. These things are normal. Red pill / alpha is about doing what comes naturally, not keeping that inner alpha man repressed. He would ruin her reputation if its was convenient or he enjoyed it. He would certainly own the natural hatred as long as it lasts (which could be forever, or not) and not bother with forgiveness unless he can find some sort of self-interest for it. Suppressing all this is beta. Seriously.
/r/askTRP20/06/14 01:53 AM
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BTW to the feminists (confirm this on /r/relationships and elsewhere if you don't believe me) a misogynist is anyone (or any man) who is not a feminist. So it's fine to be a misogynist, by their own definition.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 12:27 AM
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They are jealous. Most of those feminists would dump those other females if they could get a boyfriend. Not sure how to play this. Could you stand to ask one out and just waste a couple hours at Starbucks, going dutch, to make her feel special? (Don't try anything physical, at least I would be scared to do that, but maybe you should hint at it.) You have to fight fire with ice. Logic.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 09:39 PM
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Yes, that's when I got into STEM. The job market was easy. And if I may say so, I am as good or better than any immigrant would have been. We have enough capable Americans to train them here. We don't need the "constant unrelenting stream" of H1B's that Biden gets a stiffie for.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 09:36 PM
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This shit is clearly ridiculous. I guess it would make more sense to date girls who go to a different school. For example if you're at MIT, date the girls at Wellesley. (They aren't all Hillary.) Then if there's a case it wouldn't go to your campus kangaroo court, but the normal judicial process where she'd actually have to prove something.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 09:33 PM
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I think she unlearns the oxytocin based automatic-bonding response. She becomes a truly cold hard bitch who does not "fall for" anyone any more. She's put herself through an emotional desensitization process and emerged a winner. But you should stay away from a woman who's emotionally tougher than you are. She has below-average morality for a female also, so the odds are really bad.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 06:19 PM
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"I assume, all men here want to make the most money they can and be successful and provide for their family (and themselves). When does the light go off that you need to make more money?" Light go off, eh? When does the light go off that YOU need to make more money? Or have you agreed that he works and you stay at home? If you don't like his earning prospects, don't marry him. Are you a gold digger? What does it matter? Or, do you care too much what others think?
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 05:45 PM
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Yes I think he didn't (and still hasn't) exhaust all the learning and experience opportunities that are available to him here. Just when the script is flipping, that's so new and uncomfortable that he steps away. I am emphatic about this because I regret the many times I have done the same. I am still learning to be less nice, and even less nice, in this regard. The programming is strong but it's a thrill to defeat it.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 03:33 PM
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I wouldn't have been so vague. Just cut directly across her grain with "if you say so", with a smile. Always say the forbidden thing. She's probably turn bright red, which would be fun.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 03:28 PM
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Well if she doesn't qualify as a plate, then drop her and let her shatter. Cool.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 03:26 PM
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Maybe so, but his victory and her submission by itself was an aphrodisiac. Then she tried to deny it all to herself and her sexual performance was flat.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 03:25 PM
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I have not heard of women actually doing that. Afterwards they'll call it pity. In the moment they have no pity for anyone but their own biological children, ever.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 03:23 PM
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What do you mean by "I regret trying it"? Now granted endless arguments aren't a great indicator of compatibility. But doing nice boyfriend-things doesn't work if there isn't also, and separately, attraction in the woman. The nice boyfriend-thing stage is about getting along in the LTR. But this thread is about something that didn't get that far. It happened, he boasted to his friends, she covered her ass with hers, and I guess all we're arguing about is whether she would fuck him again if he wa…
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 03:15 PM
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It was dread not sympathy. Girls don't fuck or do anything out of sympathy. But they'll tell you it's sympathy because some guys believe it and thus remain confused about how the girl really works.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 03:10 PM
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Why bother with so many words? Just "if you say so" with a smile. If she's going to lie, you don't have to help. She could have said nothing and then you would also have said nothing.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 03:08 PM
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Never heard of a girl doing it without desire and/or dread. She's thinking "what if he's great and I lose him to another girl?" If that's what you mean by 5%, fine, say it your way.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 03:04 PM
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Won't do hers any good either as long as he clearly and outspokenly protests it and calls her out on it. If she does that, it's "no more Mr. Nice Guy" because any sign of weakness can be taken as possible guilt. Innocent people say loudly "I didn't do it." I think she'll regret it if she tries that. It's well known now that a fair number of rape accusations are false, esp. if not reported but even if reported. Women are often more disgusted by this than men. I don't think he has to worry.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 02:51 PM
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And approach any woman you want, especially if you're sure she's way out of your league. Because that's all nonsense, there is no female on the planet who is out of your league. Certainly not based on looks, and probably not in any way.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 02:37 PM
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Serious data here, I am in the NYC area and have boys who will be going to college in the coming years. Thanks. I guess outside NYC (i.e. state schools) things are less Jewish. Is NYU much more Jewish than Columbia? Or just much more female, ratio wise?
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 02:34 PM
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Outdated? I don't see how it would apply less now than then. In fact like many of the laws, it's confirmed by science. A woman is vulnerable to infection during that time. But the Law needs to be updated to current realities in some ways. Kosher rules are good, for example pork and shellfish can contain a lot of toxins. But worse than that is GMO, and even worse than that is stuff that might be radioactive from Fukushima. If the OT were received now, it would surely include warnings about those …
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 02:31 PM
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My mother was Jewish (so by definition I am too but my children are not) and that describes my mother exactly as well as her sisters. None of the female histrionics I have read about and experienced myself, including with my own wife who is not Jewish but is good in other ways. I wonder why your brother waited til the baby was born to move her out -- it would have been more convenient all around a month earlier, I would think. I don't see how the baby benefitted from doing it this way -- even th…
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 02:27 PM
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The new guy is corporate, and it's usually a bad idea to have more house than the boss. I did that once just because I found a better deal than he had, and didn't keep it quiet enough at work, and he gave me shit after that. I expect she'll do fine materially, unless he's smart and gets her to sign a prenup before dumping her.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 02:11 PM
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I've made a some bad career decisions because of my wife. Sometimes she's helped too, but overall I doubt it's been a plus career-wise.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 02:08 PM
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Her vagina still likes the ex husband and is super-stimulated by competition. It's not a rational thing. Yes, pure confirmation of RP thinking.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 02:06 PM
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"If you marry for money, you'll work for every penny." Never heard of that before, but it strikes me as true. Karma, deserved. And the new fiance deserves this loser for fucking a married woman. BTW it's typical that the lowest form of life is found in HR.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 02:04 PM
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You can put it that way and think of it that way, but it's equivalent to say you want to be friends if and only if the woman would sleep with you and you are deciding not to. Indeed, a woman is only open, friendly and helpful to a guy if the sexual attraction advantage is that way. If she's in a superior position, that doesn't work well. I am impressed that she's "paying" you by introducing you to her girlfriends. Sweet. I never did that, but I am reading about that strategy a lot lately.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/14 01:06 AM
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You can be friends with them as long as she would fuck you but you are declining to fuck her. The other way, where you want to fuck and she won't let you, is to be avoided.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/14 12:55 AM
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The psychologist tells them when it's time to get off the carousel and find the beta bucks. If the betas are not following script any more, does she get her money back for the consultation?
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 08:29 PM
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FYI, TRP does not (to my mind) imply that there are no decent women. But my wife of 20 years does the same shit as predicted by many RP'ers. You may be looking for a counterexample. I cannot provide it.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 07:31 PM
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Just feeling in control when talking to a woman, not having that feeling I remember from when I was young of "can I make her like me?", is a lot. And now that I'm married with kids, I do not want to fuck other women. I don't know how I did percentile wise, but I achieved my own goals. I see plenty of men who I think can benefit from what I learned, whether it's to reach similar or different goals. Women too. I want women to understand, because some women are very unhappy and have been lied to by…
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 06:01 PM
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Heh I like. The last 2 lines are very clear. And with a plan like that, who can have approach anxiety?
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 05:55 PM
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Keep the lunch date and do moderate escalation physically. She opened the door by touching ass, pecs, etc. so you won't get in trouble or be called a harasser. See how it goes. You will AT LEAST get credit for having the guts to reciprocate physically, and if she shuts it down, tell her not to touch you any more. Without apologies, she has no right to be a cock tease. Then you can use her as wingman. Or the fun may increase with her. You have to stand up to this chick! Can't you see she is shit …
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 05:38 PM
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This sounds good and equal, but men have so much automatic white-knight behavior that will make things unequal. Also, if you want to fuck her but she's not allowing it, and you don't even have another woman that you are fucking, there is NO WAY you can pull off equality or better in this relationship without testing the sexual side. You will always restrain yourself, which is by definition beta. And she'll know it. And from the way you write, if she brought you home and undressed and there were …
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 05:29 PM
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That seems OK. You overreacted to her word "friends". There's no reason to think he feelings about you have changed. Just assume you are in the "fuck zone" and escalate if you want. If she seems very friendly and open with you, not reserved, you probably are in her fuck zone. Girls aren't like this unless there's attraction.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 05:21 PM
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I wouldn't let her do that stuff with reciprocating 2x. She feels your pecs, you feel her thighs (later when it's convenient.) This should be easy. At this point it's just self respect. You won't let her stimulate you without making a move in return. As she's coming for the second or third time, you can ask her if you're "good" friends yet, with a smile of course.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 05:15 PM
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If she's putting you in fz, the friendship is no good to you. You can have attractive girls as friends, but they should be girls that would fuck you if you pursued it. But her comment doesn't end it if you don't want it to. She is responsible for her own actions, but she is not the dictator in a relationship that's a two way street. I think girls let you out of the fz when you become fuckable material. It's only thought to be permanent because men rarely change. You can use it sneakily to do thi…
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 04:53 PM
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You give late 20's and up females too much credit. They are too aware of their own inadequacies and needs (for a cash flow stream) to be primarily concerned about the geekiness that embarrassed you 10 years ago. You probably need to have sex with a few of these girls to see that the roles have flipped. And will continue to go further in your favor. Don't commit, you probably deserve better than any of the first 10 that you get. Don't underestimate what your SMV can be with a bit of confidence th…
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 04:22 PM
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Does game tell you to criticize women diplomatically? No, it tells you to tone down even your compliments as negs. Your criticism should be direct. (This is especially easy in today's anti-harassment environment. Just include no personal language or qualifiers at all. Just the bald work-related criticism. Don't even say "I'm sorry but ...". Why should you be sorry, that would allow her to think it's your fault.) Her personal problems are not your problems, you are not her emotional tampon.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 12:21 PM
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Maybe geoscience is different. I found female engineers to be incompetent and pampered, affirmative action products. Trouble, with the exception being the time there was a female boss, then the girl's shit was rightly criticized.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 12:19 PM
1

Game these women, provide them comfort (push-pull, not constant comfort) when they are upset, and you'll become quite powerful in that work environment, as they sabotage each other. You don't have to actually have sex with them. It's probably better not to. But all you need is for them to feel attraction. They they will be friendly and open to you (women are only like this when they are attracted, many guys don't appreciate this) and make your life easy and interesting, as they throw daggers at …
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 12:11 PM
1

On second thought -- I changed my mind, see my comment below PrinceBarrington's followup. I just downgraded my own post above.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 12:06 PM
1

You did all this to white-knight for the female activist, pulling typically female sabotage that probably that female coworker instigated. No wonder you feel a bit dirty. But it's another example of my hypothesis. Even though the boss treated the men badly (she saw you as beta bucks, so you were right to fight back in your self interest) she treated the other woman worse (as competition.) Very interesting story. Yes I think all you guys white knighted for this coworker. Probably a bunch of progr…
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 12:03 PM
2

Yes this one was dangerous. Rather than seeing her team as alpha, she just wanted them to be beta bucks for her. You did the right thing, i.e. the workplace version of the pump and dump. Use her to get your paycheck, meanwhile working on getting her replaced.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 11:57 AM
2

As a guy a woman boss is simply better. She's attracted by redpill behavior. Yes that was attraction you saw. She rewarded you. If you had been a woman and done the same thing, the male boss might have been nicer to her, but the female boss would have reacted angrily. That's what women experience from female bosses. They lose their pussy pass. Since it sucks when you have to perform miracles every day and you have coworkers getting a pussy pass, I prefer a female boss. Maybe I get a penis pass. …
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 11:41 AM
1

Not for fat ugly ones. Woman's SMV is EVERYTHING. Are you kidding? Hot ones get an almost infinite amount of attention. Ugly ones get so little attention, that what attention they get they suspect of being low quality. As WC Fields said (himself an ugly guy) "I don't want to be a member of any club that would allow me to join." (paraphrase) Because of this, ugly women are really fucked up in the head. Maybe there's nothing to do about it but avoid them.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 11:37 AM
1

Become really really good at something. That's what I did anyway. Now I am never invisible, and I am short, old and overweight.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 11:34 AM
1

"I'm the girl!" No, you are one of several billion girls. You must compete against them for men. Guys, get with the program and search broadly. The more I think about it, the more I respect RooshV for his international travelogues, they give you the right idea.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 11:26 AM
1

But even though you're beta, you may not be seen as "beta bucks". Do you appear to be a steady reliable provider with a good paycheck?
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 10:39 AM
1

Once you start doing it, it will become so easy. It's hardly even game that you need now, but losing the beta. Your friend was exactly right. All you need is to take all the beta and dump it. If you want a girl, go up to her. There's a part of you that does this automatically. Stop suppressing it. I think of "game" as a set of techniques. They are nice but hardly even important. But this is important. Maybe the hesitation comes from a normal relationship with your mother. You would respect your …
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 10:32 AM
1

That's exactly what they are. I have been in such presentations as a part of an investor group. Some presentations are quite good. Some are not. Some get laughed out. These applicants would fail, because investors can see that the management team is dysfunctional. While one woman is desperately trying to speak and answering questions, the other woman who is her partner does nothing and smirks at her. Management is very important. I would not invest in this management, no way.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 01:06 AM
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Piroko takes it a bit further than he/she needs to. But the premise of OP is wrong. Women don't get so many chances. The wheel is turning. Independent of democrat / republican politics, men are reading Redpill. Even those on university campuses and whatever. They are starting to see that what they are doing with women isn't working. Some will try something new. The idea is spreading and will not stop spreading. The imperative for men to reproduce and fuck women is too strong for anything else to…
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 01:03 AM
1

They can't get their heads out of their asses long enough to focus on the money. Well the one speaking cannot. The other woman on stage is much worse, she says nothing! When her partner is floundering, she just stands there and smirks at her. What kind of management does that look like? I'd decline to invest for that reason alone.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 11:01 PM
3

It means more like at one point you were willing to devote your life to a woman. If she sleeps with you enough times, maybe you will do the same for her.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 09:31 PM
8

Relief doesn't mean tingles. Sounds to me like she's looking for your propensity to commit, and being divorced means you committed once, even when you shouldn't have. Maybe she can pull the same shit if she gets unhaaaappy later. She's looking for an insurance policy, and you've just qualified yourself as one.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 09:29 PM
2

Give some FRs on how it's going. I think this would be effective and good strategy.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 09:19 PM
5

Do you think they're concerned with social proof, or the man's willingness to commit? A man who previously committed, and was shown to have done so unwisely, is preselcted for being highly willing to commit. If she spends a couple of her precious few remaining marketable years with you, she has good odds of getting a ring out of it. At this stage, they're definitely looking for betabux, so they not responding only to vaginal tingles. Nothing about this stops you from seeing it as a temporary arr…
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 09:17 PM
2

They may fuck you in the expectation of marrying you. But you control that latter aspect.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 09:07 PM
2

What do you mean by "graft"? I thought it meant bribery, corruption, that sort of thing. Or like skin grafts.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 07:51 PM
1

If she depends on you, she'll have someone else run out instead. Maybe another female, the only one who can fire a female is another female.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 07:50 PM
1

He's an Aussie. What makes you think non-white?
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 07:46 PM
2

My experience too. She was deferential to you as a man who showed the ability to be a leader at least in your own responsibilities. If she had any women working for her, the story might sound quite different from them, but for once it's nice to have some advantage for being a man!
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 05:05 PM
5

The female boss may well be inefficient. But as a guy, the easiest boss I ever had was a woman. She was hardest on the one woman who also reported to her and she liked all of us guys. That may have been because we were all more competent than this girl who was on the team (product of affirmative action and her blonde hair, I'd say) but still, usually the woman would get the breaks even though she's less competent. This is the one workgroup I've been in where the girl didn't get all the softballs…
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 04:57 PM
1

Business skill is indeed valuable, but mostly it's not taught in school. School is a good place to get the foundation to do math, science and engineering. Those are also valuable skills. Accounting is an important skill taught in school. Marketing and management are valuable skills but studying them in school doesn't help much.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 03:02 PM
0

Why not invest and see if she cuckolds him? That attitude makes great sense, especially if the probability is high. Right.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 02:18 PM
3

The threesome weirds me out. Maybe I'm just old but we don't do threesomes. I don't think I know anyone who does.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 02:17 PM
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Oxytocin is in the woman's body, not his problem. It will make her attached to him, maybe it already has. Never heard of vasopressin.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 02:15 PM
1

There may be built up resentment that you made her go along with you on getting sex once she had consigned you to the friendzone. Like she got bested by someone she didn't respect. Women, being women, hold onto that sort of thing -- think how women hold hatred for other women forever once it starts. I did a somewhat similar thing with similar results. My wife often exhibits borderline personality, but that only started once the kids came. So it's not obvious what all the cause and effect relatio…
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 02:07 PM
1

Actually the thread title is incorrect (well you did say ex but still ...) You were never in her friend zone. But the principles are similar. Friendzone is not forever if YOU can change. Men think it's forever because most men don't change so they continue to be fz material rather than fuckable. You changed her view by bringing up this story about the other ex. It was a bit easier for you because you didn't have to establish sexual desirability, only toughness. Very smooth and well done. BTW was…
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 02:02 PM
0

I have big fights with my wife and she shows many of the female pathologies we discuss here on RP. I get so sick of it. I've had to hold frame to keep things together. But I have and it's looking like a success. I am pretty sure she is sexually loyal (cannot prove it but have no reason to doubt it), and it benefits our children to have two competent parents at home. We married with full intention of having children, and we did. If you don't want children, or want to spread sperm around and not k…
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 01:34 PM
5

I'm confused by your post.. What does race have to do with this? What are you trying to convey?
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 01:21 AM
6

Congratulations from a fellow engineer. Take your time, you're a pretty complete package and have to protect against committing too soon. Your mom taught you math and reading, and I advise you also to marry an intelligent girl, because your children will inherit a lot (most?) of their intelligence from mom. I don't have your height or muscularity but I've found it easy to deal with women once I lost the beta. For me the central insight is that other women are not my mom. One's mother is special …
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 01:01 AM
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Apparently the belief is widely held among Chinese people. And it's borne out among my friends. I have a highly educated social group, and most of us guys married academically accomplished girls and have very smart kids. One guy married a woman who isn't much for school but looks like a fashion model. His kids look like him and aren't especially good at school.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 09:15 PM
4

That's nothing. See how it is when you're married 5 or 10 years with kids. You have the best chance going into it with your "unicorn" but nothing is guaranteed, and whatever happens is not necessarily your fault. Good luck.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 09:07 PM
12

There's always something we could have done differently. We can always wonder. If the girl cheats it's the girl's fault. She is an adult and responsible for her actions. This list does not guarantee that the woman won't cheat -- how could it? TRP seems to be invaded by people who don't get it today. RP doesn't absolve a woman of responsibility for her actions, nor her uniqueness.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 09:06 PM
15

How has society lowered you to a commodity? It's given you total economic freedom. Some men may rate and evaluate you. We are all rated and evaluated. Nothing anyone can or should do about that. Besides you know that women constantly rate and evaluate and compete with you. You're just repeating feminist whining that hasn't been right for about 40 years, if it ever was right at all.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 08:59 PM
1

Irrelevant. It's the literal sexual act that stimulates the bonding, not some sort of dramatic performance you think the guy is supposed to put on.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 08:43 PM
1

Certainly not worth being beta to them. But if you have a chance to flip into the fuck zone, due to your improved skills, that's worth doing. The friendzone isn't permanent. It just seems permanent because guys don't usually improve to the point that they qualify for the fuck zone.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 08:42 PM
0

You can still bring it up with her, complain that she was just lying there and give her a chance to make it up to you. Are you a troll or something? I don't get the enthusiasm to give up just now that you are finally in the driver's seat. But that is certainly one of your choices, and you will retain the option to go back to her unless, I guess, she gets in an exclusive relationship with someone else.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 08:41 PM
0

No it's not like a prostitute. They do it for pay and see it as a job. This girl did it for no pay and she submitted to him. The quiet "I'm down" was a submission. It wasn't pity. She is embarrassed about it and all conflicted inside. Fine, women are usually conflicted inside, that's her problem. Just know that she submitted and they fucked.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 08:38 PM
1

It's whatever he wants it to be. No matter how she hamsters, she agreed to fuck him and then it happened. He can do it again if he wants.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 08:36 PM
1

After the fact hamstering. Girls don't fuck out of sympathy. They often rationalize it that way later if the guy leaves them or does a victory dance or something.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 08:31 PM
0

I don't think you are admitting the role of involuntary bonding that happens to a woman during sex. Yes she denies it, but it's there. And for the guy, he's taught it should be about touching her soul, and you say he didn't. But really it is partially about sex, and in fact he did touch her soul. He should be confident of it even if she tries to deny it. (You can think I am imagining all this about the involuntary effect on the woman, but why don't you just admit it?) And as usual the woman's ad…
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 08:29 PM
15

But it's also OK for me not to want a fat woman, stripper, or other undesirable things. It is impolite (but possibly helpful in some circumstances) to convey those preferences to some women. It is absolutely appropriate for me to discuss those preferences with men.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 08:09 PM
0

Act aloof and like you might be a man of substance. Don't beta. That's all.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 08:03 PM
2

IQ matters to me. Children inherit their intelligence largely from the mother. But in my experience the smarter women will tend to do 1-15 much more than dumb sluts will, who have nothing to offer besides their vaginas.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 08:02 PM
5

Our society is designed to prevent and punish such men, from grade school on up. So it's not easy. But it is possible, with a glitch here and there that you cover over or basically pay to make disappear.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 07:20 PM
2

Yes this is right. Long term married myself. It's also why women eventually end up hating even their friends, it's that urge to dominate. We men have an advantage IF we can stimulate oxytocin (usually by having sex with the girl, or at least getting her to the place where she would agree to sex) then the woman will have an ongoing positive emotion and I think she can never feel pure hatred for you. That might change if you beta it up enough to kill the oxytocin bond altogether. But that's pretty…
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 06:59 PM
-2

Avoiding single moms is just common sense. There are billions of women in the world.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 06:46 PM
0

Oh, so you're the only parent with parental rights. And by "terminated" I suppose that means a piece of paper where she signs away possible parental rights, as a part of the deal where she's paid for carrying the fetus?
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 06:46 PM
1

You don't need porn to fap. Fapping is its own reward.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 06:01 PM
1

So go thru all that suffering and lack of fun, and you won't even get tons of bitches? What is the point? I think nofap is stupid. You can't be outcome independent if you need sex. You're making yourself vulnerable, exactly the wrong idea.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 06:00 PM
4

That is unbelievable. One word of advice for you. Move.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 05:22 PM
2

Opportunity and freedom exist pretty much in every country in the world. Bitchy women are concentrated in a few. Greener pastures exist.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 05:12 PM
12

Is "it" your son or your daughter? You seem to be confused about the sex of your child.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 04:34 PM
1

I'm not sympathetic. You've won the game, now you want to start over from the beginning. But that imposes too many costs. I almost never say this, but man up. Take care of your wife and son ("he" not "it") and may you have many more together. Don't be too particular about what you think of this girl. Realize that even when they're nice and attracted to you at first, often this ceases, especially with kids on the scene. Go score with a few prostitutes if you want. But don't fuck up everyone's lif…
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 04:32 PM
1

Too late for a rape accusation. So there's no reason not to tell on her.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 03:53 PM
1

So there was another shit test. You realize you should have disputed "he just walked me home" but you were too butthurt to think clearly. Hey man, you have a lot of pent up anger to overcome. It's normal. Congrats for getting into her hole. She will never think of you the same way again. She is hormonally unable. Oxytocin. So fight back. Next time you're in public together, make it clear that you did fuck. Make her own it or at least feel the "danger". That will be a stimulant for her right then…
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 03:50 PM
0

If you want kids, she would have been a good candidate UNLESS she was older than you. Did she have a high IQ? If not, maybe not so good anyway. If not, then heck what's the point?
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 03:37 PM
15

Selfish, that's an interesting word. And it means you're doing the right thing, for you. You haven't committed to a woman or your eventual children yet, so you should be completely selfish. I'm 20 years married with 2 kids. Don't commit before you commit. The earliest moment of ANY commitment is engagement. Or maybe not even then, you haven't promised to be loyal, just to get married in the future unless you or she changes their mind.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 03:36 PM
1

Size her up by model standards -- bone structure. You can "age progress" someone rather accurately. I am not saying she should be model quality. Make tradeoffs. Give massive weight to IQ -- not whether she has a bullshit degree in women studies, but real IQ, because your kids will probably inherit most of their IQ from her and most of their looks from you. These are durable things that are still there 20 years down the line, to determine the stability and quality of your family. A lot of persona…
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 03:33 PM
3

If you divorced after she got that role, you would get the kids (she has to spend too long at work) and she would have to pay child support (high imputed income.) So, she resists and makes up bullshit reasons. Good luck overcoming her resistance and getting her to accept her responsibilities.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 03:28 PM
2

And then, mutually agree to lower the price to $500 apiece, or nothing. You must not spend money now. You need all the money you can get. Celebrate once the last kid leaves the house having finished college, and of course your mortgage is paid off. Yes, in like 40 years. Don't handicap yourself now.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 03:25 PM
-1

I don't like "fantastic for each other." That sounds like the girl is taking a partly maternal role. Not looking good long term, there's not enough raw attraction there. He should put a ring on a very young hottie.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 03:23 PM
1

It is interesting to observe female behavior as there are less and less nice guys around to use. I notice on the street (NYC area) that more and more guys are bulking up. Women seem to be less confident these days. Oh well. Maybe they'll start marrying in their late teens and early 20's again. And that will be a success for everyone.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 12:55 PM
1

I disagree. Redpill is not more skewed than bluepill, I think it's less skewed. But school age is a time of massive continuing indoctrination. It's good to fight it at the time, so that the lies (on both sides, if you wish) can be identified in the student's mind and he or she can come to a more informed, educated view of the world and people. If the school is delivering bluepill though its behavior codes, speech codes etc., we do a service by providing redpill at the same time.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 12:52 PM
1

Yeah but they're not entitled to use the legal system to solve their social status problems. For trying, they should incur a permanent black mark. Like a conviction.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/14 05:25 AM
0

I have some doubts about the high fashion modeling if she's also doing nudie stuff. I think the high fashion world would shut her out for doing the nudie stuff, she's lowered herself. She's probably lying about that, it's aspirational for her. She wishes. "But she looks spectacular." Yes, well you said 8.5 . That's at least a point too low for high fashion modeling. You can use her for social proof with some real fashion models if you know where to find some though. That'll drive her hamster tot…
/r/TheRedPill14/06/14 03:24 AM
0

Yes she loses verbal control and even volunteers that she is degrading herself in front of you. What do you want from this date? To pump and dump this chick for revenge? OK then have fun, but do you really even feel safe putting your dick in that vagina that's seen so much, um, action? Or to gloat and refuse sex?
/r/TheRedPill14/06/14 03:01 AM
2

Doing nofap means you want it from the women. How can you be outcome independent then? You will get hard enough with a new hot chick even if you masturbated an hour earlier. Don't do all this self denial just to put on a better performance for her just in case you get it on -- that's BETA!
/r/TheRedPill14/06/14 02:25 AM
1

Strongly agree with 3. I wonder if this nofap movement is a subversive idea started by women seeking power and their beta male white knights.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/14 02:23 AM
0

No, are you out of your fucking mind?
/r/TheRedPill14/06/14 01:59 AM
1

He didn't push back, he said he was annoyed and left. Normal, understandable, and probably saved him from increasing the stress level to where he might have actually made a mistake. Good job, actually.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/14 01:58 AM
2

It's ok to tell them to fuck off. They knew what they were doing to you. It would bother anyone with a pulse. Laughing it off would actually be weak, submissive behavior. They were being assholes, and OP did fine. Going forward, anyone would want to understand why he was being laughed at, so it's expected and normal that you'll ask to try to find out.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/14 01:57 AM
1

They are not rewarded for long if they end up post-wall and alone, in an environment where men are deciding as a group to leave those women out in the cold. Dread is what these women need, because it's better for these women to know and react in time (like, by age 25) than to follow their immediate feelings into spinsterhood. What worked for their older sisters won't work for them. Men have changed.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/14 01:13 AM
5

Yes. Unless you are hopeless at math, take the math and science sequence. It's the real "liberal arts" even if you don't decide to go into STEM. This is the age to learn those basics, especially math, not later. It will "take" better now. If we have a war, the STEM people will be developing the weapons, but they may send the useless gender studies and even business majors out to get shot up. Because they are useless for anything else when the chips are down.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/14 01:09 AM
0

If it boosts your confidence. If you have the buzzcut and the confidence, I doubt the buzzcut will hurt. She'll become attracted to the buzzcut.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/14 01:06 AM
1

Well the people around you are primarily useful competition and friends. When it comes to college admission or career related things, you are not competing with your classmates in your school but a much wider set of people. Use those around you to become better, hopefully you become better together.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/14 01:02 AM
1

As someone who is married a long time (still am) I can tell you that continuing game is somewhat important, but the woman has a responsibility too. A good woman will fulfill that responsibility. This becomes very critical when there are children. Maintaining sexual attraction all the time when raising kids is damned near impossible, as the kids become the focus not the partner. If the woman uses this as a reason to go fuck the plumber or some other hot new guy, throw her out.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/14 12:24 AM
1

On the other hand, the extremely supportive treatment you received from male bosses, who just let you do what you were best at, was probably at the expense of others in your work group. Or at least, you were given the chance to show your best. Office politics doesn't just hurt women. You are implying that a female boss is managing inefficiently. Maybe that's true and she's just impossible to fire. Or maybe, she is taking the approach with other women that if you fuck up once, we'll document it t…
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 12:57 PM
1

In my engineering career, I saw this every time there was a male boss with a female subordinate. But when the woman had a woman boss, it was off. Maybe we men even received a bit of preference, but it's hard to tell because the woman colleague was also the least competent by far. If it hadn't been for all sorts of extra support (affirmative action) along the way she would not have been in our work group at all.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 12:51 PM
1

I said they have more testosterone. I did not say they look like men! Do female fashion models look like men? No, even though they are as tall as some basketball players, have "no hips" and small breasts and no meat on the bones, they are obviously women. There's some wiring in a man's visual system that can tell a man from a woman. At least for me there is, and I imagine most other men "just know" too. I'd have to look at some pictures to see if I prefer a 3/4 waist to hip ratio or if I like it…
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 12:44 PM
2

I've observed the same thing. And this is why I always encourage guys to try for women who are "out of their league." They will learn that no woman is out of their league. (Even when MrsStrom turns a guy down, the message is "I like you but I cannot for other reasons" -- which is empowering!) And all those people (largely ugly women) who were telling them those things are liars, trying to defeat their self confidence. 5's and below are rarely approached either, I would suppose. Neither of us has…
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 12:38 PM
2

And ever since that was a risk, there has been no draft. Probably to protect the females. This is pretty good, they are now forced to protect males too so as to protect the females. That's good for those of us who want our sons to have long healthy lives.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 12:24 PM
2

I think that's not as good as simply refusing. She'll never actually sit in your lap unless she's drunk. (If she might actually do it, then go for it.) And refusing is a good thing to do, which you don't really achieve by offering sexual behavior instead. And in many public settings, you would come across as sleazy. Why lower yourself?
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 12:21 PM
1

OK but even then, don't underestimate that you have done something that she could not do at all. She owes you one. Don't expect a reward based on your effort but based on her gain. If she likes you she should be happy to give it to you and it should increase her attraction. If she makes an argument about it, then forget her.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 12:18 PM
1

That must have been interesting. Did you catch a lot of shit for being a "feminist"?
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 12:15 PM
1

What does this have to do with OP? He's not suggesting you game older women at work. In fact if you do this right at all, you wouldn't think of gaming older women, period. Unless you have a reason in advance to think they can teach you cool bedroom tricks. I am subservient to God, but I realize God put me here in this fucked up society in this male body among other male and female bodies. If my particular genome is going to succeed and reproduce, I need to implement effective tactics with the fe…
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 12:10 PM
1

Nice how they admit it in print. All the guy has to do now is file a police report, and conviction should be automatic. Will they write a humorous article after their conviction? Part of guys' problem is that they don't report these things when their woman would report it if they did the behavior to their woman. Men have got to learn to stop being so "honorable" and rat this stuff out. I read that men can get custody in divorce but they seldom fight for it. I don't know how true that is, but if …
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 05:20 AM
1

Yes, the ratio matters. If the place is full of professional jocks, women may be expecting that. Fuck that, just go elsewhere. But don't confuse a pro jock with a muscular guy who just works out. The women will be much more attracted to the pro athlete, he'll have more money and be seen as successful; their pussies will just drip. Whereas the guy who just works out might have to overcome a negative bodybuilder image, and just building big muscles won't be seen as a big success.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 05:17 AM
1

No to the first sentence, yes to the second. "Charisma" and "frame" don't require muscles or physique. Maybe muscles help somehow, I am not so sure. Maybe working out increases your testosterone, hence it improves your behavior and the pheromones that you put out for women to smell. I've read plenty of stories of gym rats getting dumped by women. Super muscular guys may have trouble building comfort for their women. Of course like every challenge guys face in game, it's fixable. The guy can lear…
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 05:09 AM
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Very very nice. Basically, as long as you have a PhD and dress up redpill in academic jargon with references, you can at least post RP articles on your campus website and get paid to do that research. Whether such articles will help these guys get tenure in that political environment is another question.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 05:06 AM
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I predict you'll slay it. Lots of it if you want. Really you're discussing RP with others at that age? So different from my school experience. But then I went to coed public high school.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 04:50 AM
3

She has basically an ideological objection to it. Yes, cognitive dissonance. But she's not being bitchy. You tried to do her a good service, she can't deal with it. Fine. Game her. She's an adult. She's been warned. Even by you!
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 04:43 AM
3

It's not scientific if it doesn't reach the right conclusion! :)
/r/TheRedPill12/06/14 12:30 PM
4

Drinks vs. lunch in particular. If she's using you for free meals, she's slotting you as a provider. Step out of that. The minute she wants food provided, you must provide no food, rigorously, until at least you get sex with her. If it's never, then you avoided being an orbiter anyway.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/14 12:18 PM
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It's OK because you got the information that led you to think less of her. You wouldn't want to go further down the road not knowing that information. To a fair extent, I believe in letting girls talk. In the right context or rightly guided by you, it can increase their attraction to you and give you important and powerful information. If it stops being that and you're not getting something else by then (e.g. sex), THEN "just say no" and walk.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/14 12:13 PM
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You start out OK with the first clause of the first sentence, but then the rest of your post is COMPLETELY WRONG. You beta! You don't pay for sex. You don't provide male resources to get sex. Primarily because it doesn't work. Provide the resources, she'll assume her place on the pedestal, her pussy will turn to ice and she'll become judgmental to you.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/14 03:31 AM
1

I don't fully agree with the mirror rule, at least that's not all there is to it. Because as the man, you must set the tone for the relationship. The mirror rule sounds like you see how she is and act the same back to her. But I'd hope that by showing leadership (and no beta cues) you can draw her into the complementary role. You man, she woman.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/14 03:28 AM
1

Great post. Good luck finding the sort of girl you want, whether it's your current wife or your next one. Are you in a place where you can have more than one wife, or is only for people who are still Muslim?
/r/TheRedPill12/06/14 03:26 AM
1

There are other ways of interacting with women, if for example you're both married to other partners and you're not interested in cheating. But between a single man and a single woman, there is generally a sexual subtext. (maybe between any man and any woman.) If the man doesn't hold frame, the woman will float up to the superior position, and the man will be in her friendzone. But if he does hold frame, she'll be very nice to him because she'll feel inferior. Even if they've never had sex, or s…
/r/TheRedPill12/06/14 03:20 AM
1

They both understood the premise. I suspect the 6 was "calling out" the 8 out of competitive bitchiness. The 8 was relatively tough to deal with -- some 8's would have just gone along with the obvious truth of what the 6 said, rather than giving you another shit test.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/14 03:15 AM
2

Being an ugly woman is much worse than being a man. A man can learn game and improve. An ugly woman is just in a bad situation.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/14 03:12 AM
2

I've found very attractive girls, 8 and up, to have nice normal personalities. As a guy at least. They may not be so polite to other women but that's not my problem. Why? One theory is that they are less uptight and mentally fucked up, and indeed they are trying to use their looks while the getting's good. But I suspect it's more than that. The hottest women have somewhat masculine shape. At least the ones I find very attractive. Slender hips, strong cheekbones, the "classic beauty" model style.…
/r/TheRedPill12/06/14 03:09 AM
1

The guy should have said "Hi. Could I have that seat please?" "No, I'm sitting in it now." with a relaxed smile, or without even looking up. Betas. Why do they do stuff like get up? The girl will never do anything for them in return.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/14 03:04 AM
1

Opening a door for someone if you're in front of them is normal, gender is irrelevant. It's not really helping, so much as automatic. If the girl is in front of you, expect her to open it for you. Don't step around in front and get it for her! The only exception is a formal business meeting where you are assuming a formal masculine role. If I go to an important meeting with my wife, I'll open the doors for us. That's because we are a couple and I am asserting my leadership role, It's formal beha…
/r/TheRedPill12/06/14 03:00 AM
1

But how was your individual performance? Did you complete more and better work for the male bosses or the female bosses? I would guess you got to coast (being a woman)with quite a few of the male bosses, never with any of the females. So while some male bosses may have extracted your very best effort, the females at least made you work hard all the time.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/14 02:51 AM
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They prefer a man as their boss, because they expect white knight behavior from a man. It's hard for a man to avoid completely, and the man has to be careful about charges of harassment too. Whereas a woman will seethe with competitive hatred for them, kept barely under wraps at best, and won't take any of their shit. The one job I had where I saw a woman scared of her boss, the boss was another woman. So it's best to have same sex teams. It prevents excess fraternization and keeps things tough …
/r/TheRedPill12/06/14 02:41 AM
0

I suspect women are more of a mind game. The only thing I'm not sure of is whether there's a big "mind game" component to the situations you faced on deployment.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/14 11:38 PM
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I don't have the experience of deployment, but just generally you have to watch that therapists don't feed you blue pill. It's hard to imagine a female therapist that would not, and even a male might automatically tend that way. You have a right to red pill and you don't have to discuss it with the therapist who is just there to help you with ptsd or other complaints you have.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/14 11:35 PM
5

Behavioral health IS a patch job isn't it? (Got a kid who I am taking for help now.) The attempt to get below the surface is called "psychodynamics" or "psychoanalysis", and hardly anyone does it any more. They gave up on helping you understand your problems and are just trying to improve your behavior now.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/14 11:33 PM
1

yeah he shoulda spit on it!
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 02:35 PM
2

Congrats, may you have many more. Diapers are diapers. Probably not too much screaming unless the baby is colicky. A young baby is a strange sort of creature -- enjoy!
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 01:26 PM
2

Where are you now?
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 01:25 PM
3

Bringing cash to buy a home in those places requires quite a bit of cash!
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 01:24 PM
3

Go where they grow coffee. Perfect climate year round, that's what coffee trees need. So end up somewhere equatorial at 3000 - 4000 feet elevation. Probably have to learn Spanish in most of those places, but it's not hard.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 01:23 PM
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I'd urge you to reconsider. Kids don't even know if it's a house or what it is until they are about 4. School district cannot possibly matter until 5 or 6. So get the kids now and get the house in 5 years. I'm a suburban dad, been there, doing that.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 01:18 PM
1

Maybe I'll show up there sometime, I'm a guy married almost 20 years now.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 01:17 PM
79

The bitch was so entitled. Seemed shocked that she got slapped back. I think the USA is not this bad. India is worse.
/r/PussyPass09/06/14 12:21 PM
58

I hope the betas who attacked him get prison time. And the bitch never works in show business again. She should be prosecuted too for starting the fight. The one who did nothing wrong was the guy. He even took her endless verbal abuse first, which he didn't need to do.
/r/PussyPass09/06/14 12:19 PM
4

So your mom reported you? Or your mom got reported (and the pussy pass was apparently not in effect)?
/r/PussyPass09/06/14 12:10 PM
1

I got luckier than that, but while I think I did some things right, I also did some things wrong. So ... mainly luck. Going out of country is a good idea. I'd like to live where they grow coffee. Not mainly because I like coffee (I do) but because coffee requires perfect weather year around. Hence it is grown near the equator (constant temperature year around) at high altitudes (to make that a temperate temperature.) Have a look at the climate in Caracas Venezuela to see what I mean by perfect. …
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 12:06 PM
1

I think JDGAF means "lose the beta". What's left won't necessarily be some belligerent tough guy. It will be YOUR natural alpha personality. It won't be just like anyone else's, but you can be confident that it will be alpha, and the women will respond and be attracted to it. It's just that simple.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 11:57 AM
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Wrong! You SHOULD compare yourself to Tyler. And learn everything you can from what he does. You may be able to learn his text game pretty fast, you can experiment too! That is indeed redpill -- learning everything, testing things, finding the truth.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 11:52 AM
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Youtube removed the video. Darn.
/r/PussyPass09/06/14 11:06 AM
3

OK give us the real thing.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 10:58 AM
1

You can (mis) define it that way, but that would miss the point. You don't need to be handsome or physically fit. I'm not especially handsome nor physically fit. On the other hand I do have some intellectual talents and a lot of confidence that runs pretty deep. I haven't found myself out-alphaed in my memory. Women don't care that much about whether you go to the gym or are tall. Well being tall helps (I am not) but even that isn't necessary. What they want is an absence of beta. Find the beta …
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 10:57 AM
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You can call it that, but in my social circle that would be a bit strange. We're more muted, more routinely hyper-rational. That doesn't mean we cannot have swagger, and that's alpha. I'd say alpha is what is left once you lose the beta. Typically this will leava behavior that's recognizably dominant and is a chick magnet. But while they appreciate it because of course it speaks to an irrational ancient part of themselves, some men may not.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 05:20 AM
3

Yes, but there's already plenty of extra support for that. "Women in engineering" programs and scholarships, the "society of women engineers" when they graduate, the way is paved for any female with some ability and interest. Fortunately they do have to do the problem sets just like the boys.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 03:00 AM
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I was in the advanced track of math in high school, and every year the class got smaller and the proportion of girls got smaller. By senior year we were five boys and one girl. Then after a month, the girl dropped out. We thought she was doing fine, but looking back, she didn't seem comfortable somehow with the material that we were having fun learning. It's rare to find a girl with really good technical aptitude.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 02:58 AM
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Less girls than boys have the well-above-average IQ needed to succeed in STEM fields. Nobody's holding them back, in fact there are already extra supports and scholarships if they'll just show interest in technology, unfair advantages over men.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 02:55 AM
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I sort of don't see enforcing Starbuck's rules as being alpha. It gave you a chance to do something with confidence. She probably doesn't even know exactly what you said to the guy. On the other hand I believe the rest of the story, because it's just not that hard. You didn't have to talk to the guy about smoking there. You just had to do ANYTHING showing confidence and control in her sight, and that gets her attention. Women like guys. If you don't beta it up they'll like you. Get them to notic…
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 02:51 AM
1

I'm married a long time, with kids, too. I don't have all those requirements for a good man, and I suspect those don't cover it. It's not always possible to maintain all those when life throws you curveballs, and people who follow all those rules (I suspect) might be defeated by some curveballs. A good man understands the relationships between husband and wife, with kids in the mix. The kids change things. The man has a vast responsibility to provide a home and upbringing for those kids, and he …
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 02:42 AM
2

First we have to define "red pill". I have the impression it takes as given some of "evolutionary psychology" and derives from it principles of how to behave with women to achieve your goals including: generating attraction, being treated well, having sex, avoiding abuse by women. This is why red pill will continue to flourish despite the best efforts of its antagonists: "According to social proof, the other betas in the group will either think the new behavior is inappropriate, or expect it is …
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 03:42 PM
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Yes I read about a new female judge in family court who was treating men and women equally. She was hispanic, I think, from a culture that doesn't idolize women. She got talked to by the senior judges and told that they way they did it was to default to the woman. She complied. I read this in a major newspaper a few years ago.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 05:32 AM
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Well we laugh in a way. But we also provide advice, real usable advice on getting out of fz, moving on, getting to a better place. And that's what some women really hate. The guys are becoming uncontrollable.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 05:20 AM
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They object to the very idea of avoiding sluts. They object to the very idea of avoiding single moms. Saying these things brings out a lot of abuse from them. They can't quite say we don't have a right to our preferences, but they can call them misogynistic. Hey I like vaginas (i.e. am not misogynistic.) I just like them not-used-up. And I don't want to raise another man's kid. And if they hate that, they are entitled their hatred. Just as I am entitled to my preferences.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 05:10 AM
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Men's desire to marry doesn't necessarily pass as they get over 30 or whatever. But they don't have a desire to marry a woman who is as old as they are. Not if they're smart anyway, and are planning kids. Their fertility is still fine, but a woman's expires.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 04:57 AM
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I see nothing wrong with it, just as there's nothing wrong with men going to Asia or eastern Europe to find a better dating environment. Win-win and all that. It's true that the dating life is worse for women in NYC than elsewhere. It's actually pretty nice for guys, hey you ought to try it. Now unfortunately the girls didn't like the guys, judging from the complaints. Tough shit. Good for the guys not showing excessive respect for the girls.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 04:13 AM
1

Why scared? They will have power. Do you spend your life being scared of powerful successful people?
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 04:03 AM
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Why must it be fake? The guy calms down, makes love to his right hand, then calmly plans the next day while his "love" sleeps in his arms or whatever.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 03:53 AM
7

As a Dad I can tell you something. Your Dad had some situations along the way of your growing up where he could not risk maintaining frame. Because it's not all about him any more, but about his children. This is the real damned problem with women behaving like 3 year olds. Bitches, read what I just said. You can fuck up your family, and it will be ALL your fault, with this female bitchy shit.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 03:12 AM
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Still a contract, though I don't think sex requires a contract. Exceptions are real estate, maybe a few other things.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 02:53 AM
1

It'll just require a new style of game. It could make things easier. The girls will have to sign the forms otherwise they know they won't get any sex. So you can just whip out the form early in the process and either they sign and you keep talking to them. "it's just a formality but my dick is itchy" -- and you've just brought up sex! No signature and I'm sorry but I have to seek another partner. It would be fun to try this anyway. It could actually reduce LMR problems.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 10:45 PM
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