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theDarkAngle/r/MensRights05/07/14 06:29 AM
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StorytheDarkAngle/r/MensRights19/02/15 07:46 PM
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FeminismtheDarkAngle/r/MensRights10/04/15 01:00 AM
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FeminismtheDarkAngle/r/MensRights25/02/15 10:57 PM
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it's an unnatural situation to begin with. for the vast majority of human history matches were made mostly by family members and community members introducing people to each other and stuff (not necessarily arranged marriage but at minimum gentle prodding). The whole idea of approaching a woman at a bar was mostly a brief anomaly in the immediate aftermath of the sexual revolution. casual sex wasn't really even a thing before birth control - sex outside of marriage or some kind of pair bond stru…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:45 PM
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there is a subtle but important distinction between niceness and kindness, and my advice would be to understand that distinction and emphasize the latter
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:28 PM
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i heard one of those youtube psychologist people saying study after study says "kindness" is the number one most important trait for long term relationships for both sexes. He also stressed that kindness is distinct from niceness and politeness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:25 PM
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I dont think there is enough masculinity left in Europe to do anything about it.
/r/TheRedPill11/05/16 02:06 AM
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I would revise the numbers to be 500 women and 100 men so that it actually is plausible, but I think the point is that the other clan is all dead. In fact, some of your 500 women probably came from that other clan, perhaps with some sons that will come of age in the next few years, if you can accept them and avoid the whole infanticide angle.
/r/TheRedPill04/05/16 01:17 AM
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yeah pretty much this. An unwed and unemployed mother can usually go to state school with no loans, via the pell grant combined with some sort of state hardship grant (depends on the state), and a similar program from the school itself. Many people in this position however will still take out loans anyway (even though they don't really need it if they're staying somewhere rent-free) so that they can get between $2k-$4k in financial aid refunds each semester. They will also usually get $500-$2k i…
/r/TheRedPill18/04/16 05:52 PM
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this is why I want UBI. Social safety net (which I definitely believe in) without the means-testing, at least on the benefits side. Enough money to cover the basics, plus fund a hobby or venture, or a couple of kids, but not both. And you don't get extra money just because you keep having kids
/r/TheRedPill18/04/16 05:40 PM
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"He had been dishonest about some things and it led to us breaking up." She can get away with this because it is *technically what happened, although its incredibly misleading because she didnt even know he was lying until well after the breakup. In her mind, if Will hadn't lied about his money, she wouldn't have felt so unimpressed by his "life goals" or whatever, and she wouldn't have broken up with him. So see, his fault.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/16 10:00 PM
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"Here is why we are refusing to comply". What was their explanation? I'm just curious.
/r/MensRights22/03/16 12:37 PM
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Arent 60-70% of guys under 6 foot?
/r/TheRedPill12/03/16 10:09 AM
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I always do the thing where you just gently take their hand, more so by the fingers than the by the palm. Occassionally someone will object to it, but its pretty rare and I usually just say something about being old-fashioned.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 09:56 AM
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Well, she is supposed to say thank you I guess.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 09:51 AM
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It sort of depends on distance though. If they're really close then you hold it open. If they're a few steps behind I usually do that thing where you walk through but hold it open behind you.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 09:50 AM
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In this case it has a lot to do with the fact that when it happens in real life, people still think its hilarious.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 03:17 AM
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She needs to be special if you chose her for LTR. Maybe no-butt-stuff is troubling, but as long she's putting out basically on demand and is genuinely into it, I dont think there is anything to worry about.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/16 07:56 AM
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Doing it the first time you hook up is lame as fuck, but definitely different than doing it for an LTR.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/16 07:38 AM
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If she hasnt done it in the past with other guys, i dont think its a big deal. Or even if she tried it once, hated it and swore never again.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/16 07:36 AM
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It would be dressed up in a more defensible way, but yeah, basically this.
/r/MensRights13/02/16 03:42 AM
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Oh I completely agree. But say for instance you're just trying to hang out with your buddies, its way more cost effective to just buy some alcohol and drink at the house as long as you're not footing the entire bill yourself.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/16 07:54 PM
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Yeah, and Wisconsin has some of the lowest by the drink taxes in the country if I'm not mistaken. (I'm also originally from there; Go Pack!) But you're still gonna have a rough time if you drink anything other than draught beer, like wine or scotch.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/16 04:04 PM
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Its funny because this is more or less what we were told as adolescents and young adults about how to be "good". Dont drink, get plenty of exercise, dont play with yourself so much, budget your money. Except meditate I guess. But even that... in elementary I remember teachers showing us "breathing exercises" and "concentration techniques" for some reason.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/16 04:01 PM
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Otoh, alcohol is much more expensive in the bar.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/16 03:53 PM
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You dont have to prove anything to me; that you're posting on this sub suggested that you were probably not "most women" anyway.
/r/MensRights06/02/16 07:06 AM
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Tbh, most women - not just feminists - think and act like this, even though they're not aware of it. Most women firmly believe that life is much harder for them and that men have it easy, and they take great offense at any man suggesting otherwise. The other day my teenage niece was complaining to me, along the lines of "its not fair, boys don't go through anything". I guess she was expecting me to be supportive (I usually am), but I responded, "Well how would you know that?" She looked at me li…
/r/MensRights06/02/16 05:01 AM
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Take a look at the very first sentence. Its not your place as a man... Tells you everything you need to know. This is why I say feminism and the whole SJW thing in general is absolutely about supremacy, not equality.
/r/MensRights06/02/16 04:50 AM
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Honestly i dont understand what you are trying to say
/r/MensRights06/02/16 03:59 AM
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Yeah, I was gonna say, I sort of wish we lived in a society where as men we were expected to be helpful and gracious to women, and in turn were rewarded by women; not so much with sex but with respect, kindness, and trust. As it is, when I see a woman in need I have to actively suppress the urge to offer help because I've learned the hard way that I'll be taken advantage of and discarded or possibly even laughed at behind my back the moment I cease to be useful. Maybe slightly off-topic, but I'v…
/r/TheRedPill04/02/16 05:05 PM
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Is it like this in the U.S. yet too?
/r/MensRights04/02/16 04:20 PM
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To be fair, that sentence doesnt say she should be entitled to it. I would also tell her to enjoy it while she can
/r/MensRights01/02/16 10:29 AM
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But i mean, one logical consequence is that pregnant women dont have the werewithal to make important choices. Even about their own bodies. Women should exercise some caution in putting forth this argument.
/r/MensRights01/02/16 10:24 AM
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This is perhaps the most interesting point I've ever seen regarding the friendzone. I think this is why the whole concept and women's reaction to it always bothered me, even though I couldn't put my finger on it before.
/r/MensRights01/02/16 10:20 AM
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Thing you're missing though is that robots are replacing men. I recall some old second wave radfem from the 70's or 80's who said one one of the greatest offenses of the patriarchy was that it had denied women an automated society. The entitlement of that statement... Of course, they're getting their wish now, and it isnt going well for men. This is why I'm a big supporter of basic income. Get rid of the old welfare bureacracy in favor of flat (non-means-tested) cash dividend to all citizens tha…
/r/TheRedPill27/01/16 11:23 AM
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They also get greater support on most campuses. At mine there were a couple of women's offices (been a while so I dont remember what they were called) where women could go for all sorts of help, like with paper writing/editing, tutoring, carpool assistance, couseling, interview prep, etc. There even was a special health clinic for women where a lot of basic services were free.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/16 11:17 AM
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I could get behind the fair tax if it resulted in a negative net tax rather than a 0% rate for individuals at or below the poverty line, with at least subsistence level benefit. I am utterly convinced that mass unemployment is permanent and will only grow, just based on the level of automation technology. A negative income tax or a basic income become necessary under these conditions. A guaranteed income gives people the freedom to take chances and start small businesses or tinker in their garag…
/r/TheRedPill23/01/16 04:18 PM
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I prefer to call those people "progressives", and people like Bill Maher, Sam Harris, and large chunks of gamergate, MRA's, etc "liberals". The split is real, and people tend to self-identify correctly under that terminology without even knowing it. It also sort of just makes sense: Progressives are "progressing" towards some sort of perfect diversity (or something, I don't really get it but I know its social engineering of some sort), and believe that groups have agency and rights. Liberals emp…
/r/TheRedPill23/01/16 03:02 AM
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Honestly, I actually do think blacks have a special history and deserve some forms of special treatment. It's not just slavery; Jim Crowe, racist policies such as red-lining, funding schools through property taxes (thus decreasing funding in poorer areas), etc. There are still remnants of these policies in effect, but even if not, 2 or 3 generations removed is not nearly enough to stamp out the legacy of violence, forced illiteracy, and community disillusionment. That said, affirmative action is…
/r/TheRedPill23/01/16 02:52 AM
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What are you referring to? What way do asian males live? I'm homestly in the dark here.
/r/TheRedPill23/01/16 02:27 AM
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I'd reckon its a bit higher for women but certainly nowhere near 23%. We tend to forget there are a lot of shut-in bookworms and just very unattractive women that we just never really see/notice.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/16 04:55 PM
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Its for the other person's good too. I cant find it, but Bill Burr did a bit about how getting punched in the face every now and then is a good thing. He said something like "every time someone punched me, as soon as I was alone afterward I would think to myself 'yeah I was kinda being a dick there'".
/r/MensRights21/01/16 07:06 PM
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Also that looks like a crowded bar/club district. Sometimes they just have cop cars sitting on the street with no one in them.
/r/MensRights21/01/16 06:21 PM
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Its almost like there is a difference between "pressing charges" and actually charging someone...
/r/MensRights21/01/16 06:13 PM
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Pretty sure victims do press charges, as in "press the issue". It doesn't mean they have final say, it just means they have some influence.
/r/MensRights21/01/16 06:11 PM
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Honestly it should just be ok to hit them if they're being this aggressive. Not like beat the crap out of them but just enough to get them to back off. Its more or less okay to do that with a guy, so why not.
/r/MensRights21/01/16 06:09 PM
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It's not a card - its just your honest assessment. There is nothing wrong with people saying what you just said, except what some people try to use it to justify.
/r/MensRights21/01/16 05:55 PM
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Using progressive standards, racist is probably fair.
/r/MensRights13/01/16 08:55 AM
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Yeah, even if there isnt another class, I dont really think there's anything wrong with having the accused take an "Incomplete" while the investigation is underway.
/r/MensRights13/01/16 06:27 AM
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I like that all his solutions tend to be not means tested (and therefore implicitly not gender-tested and not bachelor-tested). Like when Hillary attacked his college plan, saying (paraphrasing) "I want everyone to be able to go to college, I just don't want Donald Trump's kids going to school on the public dime like they can under your plan". And Bernie said something to the effect of "So what? He'll be paying more in taxes. Why should we care?"
/r/MensRights13/01/16 06:22 AM
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He gets attacked a lot by Clinton/O'Malley for being too conservative on guns, fwiw.
/r/MensRights13/01/16 06:15 AM
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He probably means the single payer healthcare, tuition free public universities, and major tax hikes on the extremely wealthy as well as certain sectors of the corporate world. I support all of that but I understand why some are weary wary.
/r/MensRights13/01/16 06:13 AM
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In all honesty, there are supposed to be some awards rewards that go along with it. Its like asymmetric balance.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 07:00 AM
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Or a marauder or firebat
/r/MensRights07/01/16 08:06 PM
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I said I dont agree with the idea... no idea why I'm being downvoted for just fairly characterizing what the other side is saying.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/16 07:41 AM
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Ive read it. Apparently I'm being misinterpreted. I don't doubt the seriousness of ISIS or jihadist groups in general. I was responding to a post blaming "the globalists", whatever that means. I simply meant that there are a lot of factors in play, not the least of which is a collection of desert myths that promotes global jihad.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/16 05:35 AM
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Fundamentally I do think this has a lot to do with women and feminized men being in charge. I think they actually think they can placate these barbarians with sex and money.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/16 01:15 AM
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Don't exaggerate. The progressive think that it was western foreign policy that ruined these countries. Its a debatable premise (I happen to mostly disagree with it) but "feelz over realz" doesn't really apply here.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/16 01:13 AM
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I dont think anyone was suggesting that Middle Eastern and North African men are genetically predisposed to assaulting women. Of course this is about culture.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/16 01:10 AM
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This reads like conspiracy theory. The middle east is really just a mess... its right at the intersection of religion, oil, money, power etc.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/16 12:22 AM
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Also known as wild-ass extremely self-serving assumptions.
/r/MensRights27/12/15 09:18 PM
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Male energy can be harnessed, but entropy, by definition, is when energy exists but is not in a state where it is available to perform work. The few men who, without the motivation of marriage and family, opt to become scientists and engineers and doctors and scholars is matched by those who turn to gangs in search of belonging or who turn to guns to express their rage. All the while, most simply decline to do much of anything at all. When redpill (lowercase) people discuss this, they usually ta…
/r/TheRedPill26/12/15 01:59 PM
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Marriage is not just about controlling hypergamy. It is just as much about harnessing male labor and controlling male entropy. By male entropy, I basically mean that men will sort of wander off in a million different directions, each doing whatever suits himself. Chase women, play video games, play fantasy sports, do little garage side projects, completely goof off for years on end, or - in rare cases - turn to violence as a release for male energy. Male entropy is every bit the surging phenomen…
/r/TheRedPill26/12/15 11:05 AM
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Equal Rights Amendment
/r/MensRights23/12/15 01:59 AM
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Cynically, the reason they were against probably has something to do with the fact that they wanted an ERA, and the possibility of women in the draft is ultimately what defeated it.
/r/MensRights22/12/15 06:12 AM
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Frankly, I am not confident there are many women qualified. Frankly, there aren't many men either - I recently recal hearing that 50% of men are physically unqualified to serve (usually based on weight).
/r/MensRights22/12/15 06:08 AM
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Oh. You're a troll. Nvm then
/r/MensRights17/12/15 11:30 PM
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You didn't have to explain the meaning of bi-directional and uni-directional. Clearly you are one of those men that automatically treats women as stupid by default. Oh give me a break. I didn't even think I was talking to a woman so don't give me that bullshit line. Making sure to clarify possibly ambiguous terms as you go along is something careful people do. I definitely have looked into this issue, it's part of my job. If it's part of your job, it should be pretty easy for you to present some…
/r/MensRights16/12/15 03:18 AM
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Well if you're talking about third world countries that's one thing. There are much bigger issues there with religious and cultural traditions like honor killings, forced FGM, etc. But as for IPV in the U.S. and Europe, I don't think you've really looked into this issue. Most of it is bi-directional (both partners hitting each other). In those instances, I see intervention, treatment, and counseling as the logical outcome, not punishment. As for uni-directional IPV, if one partner is committing …
/r/MensRights16/12/15 01:46 AM
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That is an extraordinary claim. Care to back it up? To my knowledge, generally speaking the only men who face no consequences (beyond overnight stints in jail) for DV are those where the woman does not press charges. You can disagree with women who choose this, but ultimately it is their right.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 11:22 PM
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For what behavior? Domestic abuse? You have to be kidding me...
/r/MensRights15/12/15 09:49 PM
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There is no requirement that they must have suffered because of men. Women of all kinds want to live in a world where there are never any consequences for their behavior.
/r/MensRights14/12/15 09:06 PM
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To be fair, the author seems to be positing a variant of the "why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free" as an explanation, rather than creep-shaming or what have you. I don't really know which one is a better explanation. Its probably both.
/r/MensRights06/12/15 09:24 PM
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Well, keep in mind I qualified my claim that Islam is not misogynist by saying "at least not any more than it is misandric". And I dont think you can compare Christian "pray the gay away" camps with Islam's throwing people off of buildings for being gay.
/r/MensRights29/11/15 06:42 PM
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Well, I am mostly parroting the arguments of Sam Harris, Maajid Nawaz, Ayan Hirsi Alli, and Douglas Murray, so if you want to explore the topic further I'd suggest checking out what they have to say. They're all over youtube; each has a particularly engaging interview on the Rubin Report.
/r/MensRights29/11/15 06:02 PM
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Wow what a two-bit opinion. Jihadists tell us why they do things, but you don't even have the decency to take them at their word. When Christians cite the Bible for pro-life stances or what have you we don't question it. Because doing so is just silly. If you have bought into this meme of the evils of western imperialism, I suggest that perhaps it is you that is naive.
/r/MensRights29/11/15 03:33 AM
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For the record, I don't think continued invasions and large bombing campaigns is the way to go in the region, although I do not think any option should be off the table. My belief is that a war of ideas must be prosecuted against Islam: it must be beaten back by modernity and secularism in much the same way Christianity was in the west. The alarming thing about the current state of affairs though is that we cannot even have this conversation openly in the west without unfounded charges of racism…
/r/MensRights29/11/15 02:17 AM
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I agree that Islamic patriarchy is not misogynist, at least not anymore than it is misandric. But Islam is a barbaric religion, and it doesn't deserve a pass. Forget women. Consider what it is like to be gay in muslim societies. Or Christian. Or atheist. Consider what happens to those who write the wrong poem or draw the wrong cartoon or question the wrong belief. Islam is 100% in opposition to everything we believe in. Blaming western imperialism is a bit of a copout. We haven't acted perfectly…
/r/MensRights28/11/15 11:28 PM
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Not all. Sam Harris, Bill Maher, a few others have spent a lot of time on this topic.
/r/TheRedPill15/11/15 02:13 AM
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Me too, except instead of the "out with baby in the stroller" thing it was usually "having fairly loud sex". It was an apartment complex with pretty thin walls. Same shit like every other night.
/r/MensRights30/10/15 07:32 AM
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You're basically right about the MRM not having done shit, and I find that perplexing. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like there are things that could be done right now, today, without numbers. I mean if you can identify all these inequities under the law, can't you find one credible victim? And if you can raise 130k for a self-described feminist to make a movie, can't you raise some money for legal fees for a class-action lawsuit represented by that one victim? Even if it's little more than a pu…
/r/TheRedPill30/10/15 05:45 AM
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How he got to that point is even more baffling. He asked a group of men to name important women in history, which they did, but when pressed on what those women did, the men really couldn’t respond. This lack of actually knowing women’s lives led Powell to the conclusion that if these men couldn’t connect or care to intimately know about women’s lives, they weren’t able to respect them enough not to perpetrate violence against their bodies. That does not compute. I would LOVE to hear someone try…
/r/MensRights30/10/15 03:18 AM
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You're right, especially since feminists have like 5 arguments ready to go in response to this (blah blah male power fantasy, men cannot be objectified, etc).
/r/MensRights29/10/15 09:41 AM
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I am really annoyed by the term "fuckboy". Idk what it means but I've seen it a few times on Facebook, always from entitled twenty year olds. It's clearly not nice, and it's just a weird term that REALLY sets off my misandry alarm in a way very few words ever have. Maybe more than any other word.
/r/MensRights26/10/15 01:01 PM
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Agreed. If TRP isn't your thing, then MGTOW should be (Im aware there's some overlap but Im using the strict version of these terms). Even if you arent fully exposed to these concepts, the rational part of you should be moving you this way regardless.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/15 07:20 AM
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Also it doesn't give OP a pass to post potato-quality jokes
/r/MensRights22/10/15 06:10 AM
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The Girl Next Door is a bit of an extreme example of male wish-fulfillment, but I enjoyed that movie.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/15 03:41 AM
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And he is a former NFL player to boot. Pretty darn good one too.
/r/MensRights22/10/15 02:42 AM
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The point about women only caring who says and not what is said is an important one. A serious MRM would not be looking for sympathy, but instead respect. And for that you need tangible victories. The legal realm would be a good place to start, for instance a class-action lawsuit against the discrimination of Selective Service. Or they could go the PR-route; some of these young black men who have been killed recently is a perfect opportunity to describe the problem of male disposability. Its not…
/r/TheRedPill20/10/15 02:25 AM
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Sandra Bland is the only one who died I think. There was that woman who got full UFC-style ground and pound but she's fine now. Agreed though that this is more a male problem than a race problem, but being both black and a male doesnt just add, it multiplies.
/r/MensRights16/10/15 12:15 PM
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Sexism is necessary too. That would never happen toa black woman.
/r/MensRights16/10/15 12:12 PM
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Race is a factor, but gender is at least as important. No way your scenario happens.
/r/MensRights16/10/15 12:08 PM
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Is Gronk what we call naturals now?
/r/TheRedPill24/09/15 10:17 AM
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Posted about this before. Feminism has two definitions, even in a lot of dictionaries, for this very reason. Its "equality between the sexes" when they're trying to badger someone into accepting the feminist label or shame them for being critical of feminism. Its "equality for women" when talking about specific issues or when someone asks why they aren't doing anything about problems men face. And if you question them on this point, then its about "dismantling patriarchy" or some other such nons…
/r/MensRights19/09/15 10:49 AM
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This isnt even a NAWALT/AWALT thing. The problem is that on some level, all women fear that the only thing they really have to offer is sex. Whether its true or not.
/r/MensRights15/09/15 09:55 PM
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Because female sexual imperative. If they can't find the perfect mix of genetic fitness and provisioning in one mate, they want the option to get each from separate men. Genes from the fit guy, resources from the nice/rich guy.
/r/MensRights15/09/15 09:49 PM
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So it sounds like you think I've offered a "why" for each of these things. I didn't. Im just stating the problem. On the drug war issue, yes it is and has been very racist, like how many places the penalties for crack were 100 times more harsh than for cocaine. Today, black people are still charged, convicted, and punished more harshly for these crimes. As for the second point, should there be more police in the community? Sure maybe. But that combined with the way police are in America... they …
/r/MensRights01/09/15 09:35 PM
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Sure, but we have to end the racist and ineffective drug war as well. Black neighborhoods are far more heavily policed than others, which also causes hostility. Then there is the fact that youth unemployment among blacks is 50%. There simply are not enough jobs for everyone, and black people are getting the worst of it.
/r/MensRights01/09/15 06:28 PM
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What problem is that?
/r/MensRights01/09/15 05:22 PM
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I can't speak to the actual protesters because I don't know any, but I certainly agree with the idea that black lives matter, and that we need real police reform in this country, starting with de-militarizing and requiring better training in de-escalation. It would perhaps be less divisive if the movement was called Black Lives Matter Too, since that's a less ambiguous statement.
/r/MensRights01/09/15 04:35 PM
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Maybe off topic, but one thing that bugs me about all the blackLivesMatter stuff and the outrage over police use of force, is how no one mentions that its not a specifically balck problem: it's a specifically male problem, and doubly so for black males.
/r/MensRights01/09/15 03:58 PM
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I didn't miss that point, though maybe I wasn't totally clear. That's why I said "She's still totally wrong in the sense that simply having had a prior relationship is not the issue." Though I wouldn't say she purposefully misconstrued things, but one can never know.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/15 10:00 AM
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Last I checked, feminists were peddling the idea that men are stronger because adolescent and adult males are far more heavily encouraged to develop his physique and muscles than are female counterparts. They don't realize that an average-sized guy who works at a desk and has never stepped foot in a gym can easily ragdoll a comparably sized female athlete, with the possible exception of wrestlers and fighters (only because there is considerable skill involved there).
/r/TheRedPill01/09/15 09:06 AM
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Yeah this. She's not a bad person for "settling". It was probably the smartest thing she ever did. Prolly should have deleted that instagram though.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/15 05:18 PM
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Except he wasn't the boyfriend, right? She was in non-commital relationships with both men.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/15 05:16 PM
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Actually I don't really think she did anything wrong. She was in non-commital relationships with two men, one wanted commitment at a time when she needed it, but he was the second choice. So she told the other guy to commit or she's leaving. She's simply doing what's best for her. It's a biological imperative for her to secure the best mate. All in all she seems to be in sober control of those instincts. It's still business-like hypergamy, but that's female nature and it isn't evil. The evil par…
/r/TheRedPill30/08/15 05:13 PM
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Nah he did fine telling her, it sounds like he articulated it pretty well too. If she learns anything the next BB will live in blissful ignorance because she'll delete her Instagram and psych herself up into doing the nasty stuff.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/15 04:58 PM
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Dave Chappelle's "4 ways to please your man": suck his dick play with his balls make him a sandwich try not to talk so much
/r/TheRedPill30/08/15 04:55 PM
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I dont think that's what she was saying tbh. I read that thread and got the sense that she was saying as a 28 year old man he's probably dating women around the same age, and that all of them have had first loves by that time. She's still totally wrong in the sense that simply having had a prior relationship is not the issue. Its that OP's relationship was used as leverage to snag Chad, so he's clearly just a consolation prize. That and the fact that she'll do the nasty stuff with Chad and not O…
/r/TheRedPill30/08/15 04:52 PM
1

I was also speaking historically. Female privileges are in general nothing new. What's new is they got all the male privileges in addition to their existing privileges. Existing privileges like being exempt from the draft, not being required to support anyone, even themselves, etc.
/r/MensRights27/08/15 06:52 PM
1

There is privilege in the things you mentioned, but I was speaking on the whole. Let me ask you this: is there privilege in being exempt from the draft? Is there privilege in being legally entitled to the support of your father or husband?
/r/MensRights27/08/15 06:04 PM
1

Oh shove it. I have never changed my argument, it was just a little different than what YOU thought I was saying. I said "men were never privileged over women", and I never backtracked from that. "Privilege" would be enjoying rights without the corresponding obligations. Men never had any such thing. Women never did either until the modern era. Rights and obligations go hand in hand, the fact that you want to ignore one half of the equation is your problem, not mine. I completely stand by the id…
/r/MensRights27/08/15 04:26 AM
0

Son huh? Okay dad, good to know you're still alive. You're missing half the equation though. It's rights and obligations. They go hand in hand. That's day-one required reading for the MRM... I'm really surprised you are posting on this board without recognizing that. The supreme court specifically stated that men's suffrage is granted in conjunction with the fact that they can be compelled into military service. BTW, is that where you've been all these years, dad? Drafted into military service a…
/r/MensRights27/08/15 02:41 AM
1

No. Men were never privileged over women, nor did men at large control society. It is perhaps correct to say a handful of men controlled society and privileged themselves at the expense of 99% of other men and 100% of other women.
/r/MensRights26/08/15 10:03 PM
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Factually? No. Me and a lot of mra's would disagree. There has ever been anything privileged about being a beast of burden and a shield.
/r/MensRights26/08/15 10:00 PM
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Only incidentally. They are advocacy groups. Feminism is an advocacy group - some would say supremacy group - but it claims to be an egalitarian movement, and more importantly sees itself as the beginning and end of the conversation on the gender binary. All things must be viewed through the feminist lens or they are invalid or even hateful.
/r/MensRights26/08/15 07:35 AM
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No, because black power doesn't claim to be "working on white people's issues too!". Ditto for gay pride and straight people.
/r/MensRights26/08/15 06:06 AM
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No im just citing the way the movement as a whole acts. The whole thing is doublespeak anyway. Claim they're for gender equality and then name their movement after women and the opposition "patriarchy" after men.
/r/MensRights26/08/15 05:16 AM
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Sorry, there is a typo. It was supposed to read "... as OG feminism". OG stands for original gangsta; its stupid, Idk why I say it. In this case just pretend I said "proto-feminism".
/r/MensRights26/08/15 03:40 AM
2

Or even if some strange woman just puts your name on a birth certificate
/r/MensRights26/08/15 03:37 AM
1

Wtf is up with all the swords and shields for feminists on this thread. I have seen one or maybe two feminists talk about this issue and they don't so much carefully consider it as dismiss it out of hand. Yes, everyone knows the government assistance structure would have to be changed in order to accomodate paternal surrender. Thats not a reason to abandon paternal surrender, thats a reason to revisit benefit reform, among the many other reasons that exist like glaring inefficiency, massive bure…
/r/MensRights26/08/15 03:34 AM
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Those are all valid concerns, but nobody is addressing the current system, which at the end of the day incentivizes polyandry among single mothers. Have a child with Charles, government is taking the max out of his check for child support. Cant get any more money out of him, better have a child with Eddie instead, now I can get his max too. And further, the entitlement system as a whole just incentivizes not working, not self-improving, not even devoting more time to the children you already hav…
/r/MensRights26/08/15 03:27 AM
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If enough feminists act a certain way then thats what feminism is. Nobody is forcing egalitarians to adopt the feminist label.
/r/MensRights26/08/15 02:52 AM
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Not sure why you're downvoted. Only thing I disagree with is the idea that second-wave feminism discarded patriarchy theory. Its fair to say they didn't regarded it as the ever-present boogieman that 3rd-wavers do, but if you ask a 2nd-waver "Has society traditionally been controlled by men in such a way that it privileges men over women?", you'll get a yes 9/10 times. EDIT: actually I didnt see the last sentence. Thats overstating it. If anything, feminism is a confluence of technological abund…
/r/MensRights26/08/15 02:46 AM
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Yeah, I've tried to point out on here that AF/BB isn't just a female sexual dichotomy, but a male one as well.
/r/TheRedPill21/08/15 02:22 PM
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I agree with you, but why is it "autistic"?
/r/TheRedPill21/08/15 02:12 PM
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Totally agree. While I was reading the post I felt like OP was shoving thoughts and intents in there that didn't belong.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/15 05:25 AM
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That is just utterly ridiculous. Those are jobs. And they're better prep for the white house than 99% of what you would probably call "real jobs". Ive never understood this narcissistic brand of conservative identity politics where only some narrow set of life experience is "real". Running a business is actually horrible prep for being potus. An owner/CEO can simply issue directives. A President's primary skill is in building consensus. CEO's must concern themselves with profit. A President must…
/r/TheRedPill14/08/15 08:06 PM
20

The rare pro-Hitler comment.
/r/TheRedPill14/08/15 04:02 AM
1

You mean aside from community organizer (yes that's a real thing and it really makes an impact on people's lives), constitutional law professor, editor and president of the Harvard Law Review, Illinois State Senator, and U.S. Senator? Not to mention the world class education he attained before all that. Yeah what a lazy fuck. If it were your son that accomplished all that, you would never need a car because you'd be permanently riding his nuts 24/7.
/r/TheRedPill14/08/15 03:57 AM
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Kleptocracy? Is this just the same old "taxation is theft" line?
/r/TheRedPill14/08/15 03:46 AM
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History tells us that neither Sanders nor Trump will win their nominations, because both are considered to be "insurgent" candidates who are up against the establishment. Trump in terms of temperament and image, Sanders moreso in terms of ideology (he is the most far-left candidate to ever generate any momentum) but also in his "Im just here to tell the truth" rhetoric. Obama is essentially the only such candidate to win, and that was because he was able to appeal to both the rich, white liberal…
/r/TheRedPill14/08/15 03:45 AM
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And the fact that sometimes the repubs and dems are like competing over who likes Israel more...
/r/TheRedPill14/08/15 03:09 AM
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Yeah well, we can dream, yeah?
/r/TheRedPill13/08/15 12:28 AM
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Men have had the tears and emotional expression sort of pounded out of them from an early age. By the time they are men they don’t even have the vocabulary anymore or the emotional awareness to really say what they are feeling. This is where its still feminist bullshit. The solution to men's problems is always to be more like women. I dont think I "lack the emotional awareness or vocabulary" to say what I'm feeling. I just know that it won't do any good. The problem isn't that men need to expres…
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 08:40 PM
1

Well sure, but we're just in a lull, that could easily happen again. Feminism didn't end war.
/r/MensRights10/08/15 10:04 PM
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I watched the whole thing. I found it so satisfying when the second cop showed up and told her what's up. No of fucking course you can't force the kid out of the car. Yes he can go with his father if he wants to; he is 14 years old not 14 months old.
/r/MensRights10/08/15 06:57 AM
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Should watch the whole thing, pretty satisfying.
/r/MensRights10/08/15 06:53 AM
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That isn't some random thing though. Gynocentrism and the invisibility of male suffering is a part of human nature, and feminism is a natural result of that.
/r/MensRights10/08/15 05:11 AM
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Thats because they did nail it. There's never been a greater time to be a woman than the present-day west. And there's never been a worse time to be a man or a boy.
/r/MensRights10/08/15 03:33 AM
1

I like tig notaro. I also like Maria Bamford, although she's kind of a one trick pony.
/r/TheRedPill02/08/15 10:19 AM
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I have no idea what you are saying. Have an upvote.
/r/TheRedPill02/08/15 10:15 AM
1

I dont think thats really representative. The overweight wall-hitters that I've worked with are the ones who complain about how they can't find a man. All the happy women I work with basically married the last guy they dated in college. Funny thing is, even as post-wall, married women, they take much better care of themselves.
/r/TheRedPill02/08/15 10:14 AM
2

Do we count personality on the 10 scale?
/r/TheRedPill02/08/15 10:04 AM
1

Isn't the viewership on that show more women than men?
/r/TheRedPill02/08/15 10:02 AM
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I think everyone definitely should do that.
/r/TheRedPill02/08/15 10:01 AM
1

She's a tv 3, a real life 5.
/r/TheRedPill02/08/15 10:01 AM
2

Are you being sincere? I'm not all that familiar with that stuff, but somehow that almost makes sense.
/r/TheRedPill02/08/15 09:55 AM
1

Jack Burton is the fucking man.
/r/TheRedPill02/08/15 09:53 AM
1

A friend of mine said this exact thing like two hours ago. Its a very apt comparison.
/r/TheRedPill02/08/15 09:48 AM
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Prenups are bad, says a site called allwomenstalk. Might as well be an article called "Why deadbolts are bad" from burglaryworld.com
/r/MensRights27/07/15 11:23 PM
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I disagree with your explanation for why men are repulsed by sluts - I dont think it has anything to do with questions like "what is wrong with her?" As many have pointed out, men generally don't have a lot of qualms about having casual sex with sluts. The repulsion comes about when faced with the question of having to invest any resources (including emotional commitment) in such a woman. This is because men - like women - practice a dual sexual strategy. AF/BB is not female only. Men will take …
/r/TheRedPill27/07/15 07:24 PM
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Pretty sure this is when the light bulb came on for me
/r/MensRights27/07/15 04:28 PM
1

Yep. Women have always had the cushier role. But I hear you about Trainor. I suppose its perfectly healthy to have an outlet.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/15 09:00 PM
1

Makes my blood boil. I find it disgusting, but don't let it get to you. Remember, AWALT, and they always have been. Only reason women were content with cooking and keeping complaints to a minimum was because she could look over at her husband doing endless hours of back-breaking or dangerous work and realize how lucky she is to just be cooking. As soon as cushy desk jobs became the norm, that wad the end of that.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/15 05:56 PM
1

For me, I am very close to my family, as well as 2 bros with whom I've been able to maintain very close, active friendships with.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/15 04:27 PM
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Every time I've heard "dear future husband" on the radio I've thought about posting something like what you've done here. But then by the next time im at my computer I forget. The shameless entitlement is just apalling.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/15 02:21 AM
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Well, he's literally picking from a giant stack of photos. Even if you assume no bias at all you would expect an assload of white girls to make the cut just based on demographics. He may still have a racial preference though, or he's one of those "black women are too fucking crazy" kinda guys.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/15 12:59 AM
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Julian Edelman? Pfft. Not even a top 10 WR.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/15 12:51 AM
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Ikr? That has to be an exaggeration...
/r/MensRights24/07/15 05:31 PM
1

Im only speaking to the folly of subjectivity.
/r/MensRights07/07/15 08:06 AM
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Im sure. Try being an average looking dude. It's not exactly fun.
/r/MensRights07/07/15 03:53 AM
2

Well I dont really wanna debate politics on here. Suffice to say, I would be a capitalist if I thought could serve the masses adequately. It did for a long time, but the wealth distribution mechanism (human labor) is becoming obsolete and giving way to more and more sophisticated technology. I'd prefer a non-means-tested welfare solution like Universal Basic Income, but in the interim, before we come to our senses and implement something simple and elegant like that, regular old inefficient welf…
/r/MensRights06/07/15 04:12 PM
3

Well I'm not from the US but from what I've seen he's a dyed in the wool socialist Good.
/r/MensRights06/07/15 08:35 AM
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There IS such a thing as rape culture. Its called the U.S. men's correctional system, where more than twice as many men are raped as are women in society at large.
/r/MensRights04/07/15 10:06 PM
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Like Cenk and Ana said, if this is a frank talk about how to navigate the current culture and monetize and promote your own objectification... well Kim K is an expert at that, and its a fairly interesting speech.
/r/MensRights04/07/15 10:01 PM
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Prostitution/porn bans are about restricting access to sex for men. Inflating the price of pussy. All women intuitively know that they gain a lot from the fact that they peddle a desirable commodity, and they care about keeping it valuable. Ask a woman what she thinks of prostitution: "That's gross." Now say, "but what about a call girl making $5000 just for one night?" "Oh well thats ok." The number varies from woman to woman, but there is always a price point where they think selling sex is ok…
/r/MensRights04/07/15 09:35 PM
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Let's not beat around the bush. Women's obsession with appearance is primarily about status. The obsession with fingernails is a holdover from noble women: a sign that showed that their hands do no work. Thats what they have a husband for. Its the same thing with expensive designer shoes and handbags. Some beauty measures, like makeup and boob-jobs, are partially about attracting men. ESPECIALLY high-status men.
/r/MensRights04/07/15 12:43 PM
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Men can be flat out cruel to homely women Can be? Sure. But in my experience that's exceedingly rare.
/r/MensRights04/07/15 12:37 PM
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I agree, excellent idea. I think in some contexts it's also more accurate. However, it doesn't apply in every situation. Male disposability, for instance, has nothing to do with androphobia, and belongs under the blanket of "misandry". Sidenote: prepare yourself for the tumblrinas though - "we SHOULD be afraid of men cuz men are violent rapists k thx bye".
/r/MensRights27/06/15 09:31 PM
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Yeah, seconding barbarossa. His series called "Powered By Orgasm" was one of the most enlightening and insightful things I've seen in a long time. I feel like it should be required viewing for anyone in the entire manosphere.
/r/MensRights26/06/15 11:18 PM
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It's big enough news that it's on a shit ton of subs where it might seem out of place. At least I'd be willing to bet it is.
/r/MensRights26/06/15 11:03 PM
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OTOH, OP commented: really want to but part of me wonders how I could find someone like her again. As another poster suggested, I'm scared to be alone but more than that, I'm scared of not finding someone like her again. We match on nearly every like/dislike, she is the best friend I've ever had and is ridiculously attractive. It was so much easier trying to move on when I thought having her again wasn't a possibility. I mean this whole story could be bullshit, but not even the most infatuated l…
/r/TheRedPill26/06/15 09:50 PM
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That would be a conscious decision, which is not what we're talking about here.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/15 06:42 PM
1

I showed you evidence, you're just pretending I didn't. The 0.7 ratio is universal.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/15 06:41 PM
1

Maybe on some things - maybe a lot of things. But not this one.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/15 04:27 PM
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it's across all cultures, it says that in the article. This rule applies everywhere, even in isolated tribal cultures. To think that humans wouldn't have hardwired preferences is just maddeningly stupid. WE ARE ANIMALS.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/15 03:36 PM
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Um... no. GTFO with that shit. The fact that men like women with specific proportions is not a matter of culture and society, it's a matter of biology.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/15 03:10 PM
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Women do not penalize men for promiscuity, in fact in many cases it actually raises his SMV. Men do. It's a hard-wired thing related to the fact that a man never has certainty as to whether a child is his, but especially if the mother is promiscuous. Not a conscious process. Obviously women have no such concern.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/15 02:58 PM
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Men naturally recoil at women who are highly promiscuous. They may have sex if she throws herself at him, but nothing more. It has to do with the prospect of paternal uncertainty. Women have no such concern when it comes to men. Hence your double standard.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/15 02:49 PM
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So one person (a women who denounces feminism, no less) claims all women support feminism at least indirectly, and therefore each and every women is waiting for the technology that will enable them to commit mass gendercide. Gotcha. Omg you're being dense. Like I said, here is a well respected MRA and anti-feminist woman, GWW, explaining better than I can why women, and not just feminists, are culpable in our misandric society. The fact that anti-feminist women exist is largely irrelevant becaus…
/r/MensRights13/06/15 11:38 AM
2

I didnt "come here" from anywhere. I've spent a lot of time on this sub. You're accusing me of pigeonhole-ing, and then immediately trying to connect me to some group so that you can make assumptions? Why don't you think about that for a second... "That's demonstrably false". No it isn't. u/girlwriteswhat, one of the exceptions that prove rule, touched on this in a recent post. The "mercenary" nature of women is in fact demonstrably problematic. They fucking gobble up the goodies provided by fem…
/r/MensRights13/06/15 10:37 AM
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Each and every woman isn't a feminist, but they all go along with it. And note, you don't have to exterminate anyone when you control the breeding.
/r/MensRights12/06/15 04:18 PM
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It would never be war in the way you're thinking. They'll be successful in convincing women and white knights that all problems are because men, and they'll abort boys, or use fertility science to ensure that mostly girls are born. And what can any man do about it? You cannot force a woman to bear a son if she doesn't want to.
/r/MensRights12/06/15 03:21 PM
1

Yeah
/r/MensRights12/06/15 03:15 PM
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Also, the neglect actually has to be fairly extreme for this to cause the man to want to end the relationship. Most men will double-down on the marriage every time. You know the old saying: Men are dogs. And what are dogs if not loyal? Cheating is an entirely separate issue. Men cheat when attractive enough women are willing to have sex with them. Some men practice more self-control than others but the impulse is always there.
/r/MensRights12/06/15 03:59 AM
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I hate to say it, but I think the SJW's are winning. I think history will reflect badly upon us, and upon the gators and redpillers. Even though we are more right. The future of the male gender, IMO is to be systematically purged, until we represent ~10% of the species. Only once AI and robotics have developed to sufficiently replace us, though. Remember, AWALT and Briffault's Law: they'll discard us once they safely can. The only way we avoid that future is through other paradigm-shifting event…
/r/MensRights12/06/15 03:55 AM
1

most of them are 100% entirely full of bullshit and will say anything at all to get their way. While I think saying "100% entirely full of..." is a bit repetitive, I fully agree 100% entirely. Think about it. Men have some pretty obvious advantages over women... do people really think that women - the population bottleneck, as it were - wouldn't have advantages of their own? They are fucking effortless liars and manipulators. This isn't a diss... game recognize game.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/15 03:30 AM
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This is why there was a huge brouhaha about the meritocracy mat at GitHub by the feminists. Hadn't heard of this. Explain or link?
/r/MensRights29/04/15 04:27 PM
1

Well I guess I'll start off by saying it's becoming clear that we don't disagree on an awful lot... only a handful of small matters of nuance. That said, I want to respond to a few of your claims. "In virtually all states, a child cannot be adopted without the consent of the birth father if the parents are married, or were married within a certain time period before the birth of the child. If the parents were not married, but lived together either at the time of the child's birth, or within a ce…
/r/MensRights16/04/15 04:13 AM
0

Before I revisit the main topic, I just wanna say that in my experience, LPS is a far less contentious issue than you are suggesting. I have even seen feminist authors talk about it positively, though a bit hesitantly. It is because the absurd unfairness of the situation is simply inarguable. Even leaving abortion off the table, a mother can in practice give her child up for adoption against the will of the father. Nearly all states even have "safe-haven" laws, meaning she can leave the child in…
/r/MensRights15/04/15 10:01 AM
0

I've said this a bunch of times before, the main problem feminism poses to men is the fact that they sort of claim men's issues as part of their mandate - at least sometimes. Obviously, it's not the only problem - villifying men as rapists and abusers and downplaying their hardships in life are also big problems. But the fact that they claim to be "working on men's issues too" is the only reason we even talk about feminism in relation to a whole host of issues. It's the obvious hypocrisy and dou…
/r/MensRights15/04/15 06:48 AM
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I think its an issue of weight and focus. This is a forum for men's rights, not anti-feminism. Although there is necessarily some overlap there. The mandate of mra's is to present a positive case for liberating and empowering men. Feminism should only really be a topic when it interferes with that goal.
/r/MensRights14/04/15 10:46 PM
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Guys, Im not voting on Men's issues this cycle. Thats pretty pointless anyway. I'm voting on the fact that 4 SC Justices will be 78, 80, 80, and 83 years old on election day, and I desperately want Citizens United overturned and Net neutrality preserved. So basically, if you have a D by your name you're getting my vote. To the original point though, it will indeed be a circus of faux-victimhood. This is a given.
/r/MensRights11/04/15 03:02 AM
1

I find that difficult to believe, and even if... I would expect this story to have been picked up by TMZ by now... or AT LEAST by internet media outlets outside of PUA sites. Even in social-media land, the only people talking about this are the gamergate people.
/r/MensRights11/04/15 12:03 AM
1

So Im told. Please just ignore the bullshit parts. I only meant to draw attention to the story and the lack of coverage.
/r/MensRights10/04/15 09:00 PM
1

This occurred to me, and I'm willing to buy that as far as the femkinist publications go. But it doesn't explain why there's been hardly any mention of the story from the mainstream news outlets. It's a pretty sensational story, the kind the media usually eats up. EDIT for additional comment: This explanation also does nothing to diminish the points made by Mercedes Carrera in her video.
/r/MensRights10/04/15 08:57 PM
1

SJW's hate him.
/r/MensRights10/04/15 05:00 AM
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Well, I think the fact that she is a porn star may help explain the hardcore feminist publications ignoring it, but the mainstream publications? I mean they all reported the Christy Mack story... I think the race angle could be a part of it, but they don't typically ignore famous white women getting assaulted by minorities. They might tiptoe around the race part or even not mention it, but they don't just ignore the story. There has to be some other reason, or some factor that's compounding thin…
/r/MensRights10/04/15 04:49 AM
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Apparently everyone has a problem with ROK. I had never heard of them before today. Someone mentioned this story on a youtube video, and I googled it and this was the first article that came up. After searching r/mensrights for the word "Cytherea", and seeing no results, I just posted it. I don't agree with some of the points in the article, but the overall point is a sound one. I am really surprised we haven't heard more about this.
/r/MensRights10/04/15 04:39 AM
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I did, i don't agree with everything in it, but the main point is a valid one in my opinion.
/r/MensRights10/04/15 04:35 AM
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I think its different than simple hate. It is an intense loathing for any attempts by men to decode female behavior and share the findings with other men. Women have always exploited the fact that men worship them despite not understanding why they do and say the things they do. Because men don't worship women if they understand how they really are. With the flaws revealed, women are not magical creatures. They are just people with vaginas, every bit as flawed as men, though in strikingly differ…
/r/TheRedPill22/03/15 05:11 PM
1

It wasn't meant to "humiliate and embarrass" the victim. It was meant to break him as a person. This isnt assault occasioning bodily harm. Its torture... among the most heinous of ALL crimes.
/r/MensRights17/03/15 11:11 PM
1

Illuminati confirmed
/r/MensRights17/03/15 09:04 AM
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I cannot decide whether to upvote or downvote this. On one hand, I agree that women need to be more self-sufficient and humble. On the other hand, I do think women should occasionally feel like princesses if only as an indulgence. Much like we deserve to occasionally feel like kings, heroes, or what have you.
/r/MensRights17/03/15 05:23 AM
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Well, at least she isn't pretending that feminism is egalitarian. I've said it before on this sub, I really would have no problem with feminism if it were clear about its mandate and open about its intentions. They could have their advocacy group and we could have ours. But it's precisely the doublespeak around the core intent of feminism that makes it so insidious. Honestly though, am I the only one who'd like to hear her reasoning on why "equality accomplishes nothing"?
/r/MensRights09/03/15 11:31 PM
0

I don't see what your point is.
/r/MensRights09/03/15 02:04 AM
2

Ah I didnt know about that. But as far as I can tell that was a bi-partisan bill that was pretty weak-sauce anyway... typical political crap about "forming advisory panels, performing long-term studies, etc, etc".
/r/MensRights08/03/15 09:53 PM
5

I disagree with that... I think feminism grew and grew to the point where the left changed itself to adopt it. Not the other way around. We'd be wise to observe the difference.
/r/MensRights08/03/15 08:07 PM
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I think the tradcon view is that men are beasts that must be harnessed. As with any beast, sometimes you use the carrot and sometimes you use the stick. It's misandrist as fuck too, but it was a fairly successful system in the past. However, I don't think it can work anymore... technological abundance changes the game too much. And frankly we (or at least I) don't want that gender role anymore. Feminists are pretty similar but it's pretty clear they prefer early childhood brainwashing and group …
/r/MensRights08/03/15 08:05 PM
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I really disagree. We've had a lot of republican/conservative control in the past at all levels of government, and it never abates the trend of increasing privileges for women and making things more difficult for men. If your argument is that these things happen a little faster with the liberals acting as enablers, then I can accept that. But that "90% of men's problems in terms of laws and policies would go away", simply by electing republicans... I just don't see how you can arrive at that con…
/r/MensRights08/03/15 07:58 PM
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I think it's fine to talk about the political implications, as long as all MRA's understand that the movement as a whole is non-partisan. I do think there is a little too much "defeat the left, anti-feminist" crap on here. And while I have no problem with people criticizing political parties, politicians, or political initiatives, the black/white nature of those posts tend to be somewhat disturbing and counter-productive. I also think we might do a little better to talk about the misandry and ma…
/r/MensRights08/03/15 06:13 PM
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Total bullshit. I've seen more examples of very controlling wives than the other way around. Nobody bats an eyelash because we expect men to be able to stand up for themselves and set boundaries. We should expect the same thing of women.
/r/MensRights08/03/15 06:02 PM
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It's tricky, because if you get blackout drunk, you can seem fairly functional to everyone around you, but it's just like your memory is turned off. A woman may think she has been raped when she was outwardly consenting, even "enthusiastically" the entire time. I think there needs to be some hard evidence, not just a woman's word, before the man is charged with rape. Because her memory is unreliable. Now the typical anti-rape extremists' response to this is to say "she cannot consent when she is…
/r/MensRights08/03/15 05:59 PM
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And in that light I agree with you. I think the mod just wants to: 1) Keep it about Men's Rights - there is no need to justify sexual preferences; it's unnecessary to talk about how high past partner count = higher divorce rate. Sexual preferences just are. As soon as we start trying to justify it, it sounds more like a conscience decision than a gut reaction. 2) Don't over-do it. There isn't a lot of reason to keep talking about it unless there is a specific news story or a poster has specific …
/r/MensRights08/03/15 05:52 PM
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Yeah this isn't a dating advice sub-reddit. I think if someone wants to post something that's a little more "academic" in nature as far as exploring how the two genders interact, that would be fine. They're not specifically MRM issues, but they can help inform other issues at least. But it needs to be something new and informative, or at least not regurgitated TRP tropes.
/r/MensRights08/03/15 05:41 PM
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I agree with you, and I upvoted you because I think you're stating your opinion in good faith, but I think the point is that it doesn't really belong here unless there is a specific MR angle. This sub isn't about dating advice. Now as some others have pointed out, when having that preference gets you labeled a "slut shamer" then it becomes more of an MRM issue. But only because we're talking about the culture trying to force men to think and behave a certain way... and not for their own good or …
/r/MensRights08/03/15 05:38 PM
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As well as being socially ostracized.
/r/MensRights07/03/15 11:26 PM
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Only on the internet. You still can't talk about these things in public.
/r/MensRights07/03/15 06:40 PM
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That will never happen. Gender is different than race, and gyno-centrism will always be a thing because we're human. Feminism probably will never go away but even if it does it won't be viewed as a hate group. At worst it would be viewed as well intentioned but fatally flawed.
/r/MensRights07/03/15 06:39 PM
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Is it just me or did that video just lump sexting in with date-rape?
/r/MensRights07/03/15 06:36 PM
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I've had money stolen from me this way. Not "everything I'm worth" but the atm withdrawal limit of cash.
/r/MensRights07/03/15 06:33 PM
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Its not a bad idea.
/r/MensRights07/03/15 06:18 PM
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Are you sure you're behind the times?
/r/MensRights07/03/15 06:17 PM
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First week at a bar/restaurant job, female manager's idea of an introduction was to grab my junk with no warning to gauge my size and then exclaim loudly to the rest of the staff about it. Pretty much the same thing happened a couple years later at a different job.
/r/MensRights07/03/15 06:16 PM
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You have to take that case to the general public. Feminists do not believe they are harming anyone, remember?
/r/MensRights26/02/15 12:21 AM
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That link is just your opinion. I see it very differently. And I don't know why you keep saying this is "conceding" to feminism. Concede nothing. Im only saying change the focus from anti-feminist to pro-male (and yes those are distinct from each other). Let me put this another way. Make the feminists come out against us as they see fit, rather than the other way around.
/r/MensRights26/02/15 12:20 AM
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What exposure? The only MRA's getting exposure to the mainstream are the female MRA's, and as far as I can tell this mainly due to the novelty of female anti-feminists. 99% of media figures have at best a nebulous, second-hand idea of what the MRM Real exposure requires bolder steps into the outside world. For instance a class-action lawsuit against selective-service under the equal protection clause. Or advocating in mainstream publications, either via letters to the editor or via one of our fe…
/r/MensRights26/02/15 12:06 AM
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Did you actually read what I wrote? I thought I made it pretty clear that I think we should continue to confront feminism on these issues. My point was that we are supposed to be a pro-male advocacy group, not an anti-feminist reactionary group. Assigning blame is sometimes important but it doesn't matter at all if you're not coming up with or implementing solutions.
/r/MensRights25/02/15 11:39 PM
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well okay. I don't view it as a concession at all. We should just be done with them. Arguing with them is pointless, and even talking about them to the general public is kind of pointless because they're not particularly gender literate. We should be talking about our own ideas. Legal paternal surrender, more men's shelters, reforming education for boys, etc.
/r/MensRights25/02/15 11:33 PM
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There needs to be a movie about Mr. Rogers.
/r/MensRights23/02/15 02:58 PM
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The manosphere won’t stop lashing out immediately, but it will lose. It will be pushed further and further into the fringe. The only hope is that we’ve reached its peak of violence, but I’m worried that we haven’t. What violence? Elliot Rodger is the only example of violence by any of the communities mentioned. And it's very debatable whether a few posts on PUA-hate makes him a part of the "Manosphere". Or even whether PUA-hate was ever part of the manosphere to begin with.
/r/MensRights23/02/15 02:45 PM
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I've posted about this before. Feminism is double-speak. There are two popular definitions: : the belief in equality between the sexes : the belief in equality for women The first one is pure gender egalitarianism. This is the one feminists trot out to the mainstream world. "How can you be against this?" However, among the gender-literate crowd, as soon as someone says, "why do you do nothing about X problem that affects men?", they revert to the second definition. It drops the mainstream appeal…
/r/MensRights23/02/15 11:42 AM
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I would have asked OP two questions: What does "playing poker (sort of)" mean? Have you ever had sex of any kind with Kyle, even before you met your husband? I have a feeling the answers would have been... long.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 07:54 AM
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Yeah I see... I wasn't aware of that definition. The term just sounds wrong to me. I think it's an issue of semantics, or because agency is used so much in the manosphere already with a different meaning.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/15 09:24 PM
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I see what you're talking about, but I've never heard the term agency applied in this context. Agency usually just refers to one's ability to think and act for oneself. I would probably call this gamesmanship or something similar
/r/TheRedPill21/02/15 08:27 PM
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I see both sides of the argument. Some of us might be legitimately attracted to a woman like Ronda. The MMA thing may even be sort of a turn on. If you want her then you best be able to handle it But that's if you want her. I get what you're alluding to, the way modern women try to shame you for not wanting a woman with a high past-partner count. We're allowed to pick and choose too.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/15 07:37 PM
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All I could find is her saying "fighters should get paid more than ring girls" and "wouldn't it have been funny if I'd beaten Arianny (ring girl)" in Maxim's Hot 100. The first is arguably a legit point. The second sounds like musing, not hating.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/15 07:31 PM
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which sub?
/r/MensRights19/02/15 10:35 PM
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True or not, this is irrelevant. We are not in a contest vs feminists. They should be irrelevant to us except in those instances where they stand in our way (which granted, is often). The MRM is a small, narrowly focused advocacy group. It has neither the will nor the werewithal to function as a big tent. That said, individual MRA's can advocate for whatever they want. And indeed I would have no problem with your post, except that, by trying to go tit for tat with the SJW crowd, it seems to sugg…
/r/MensRights17/02/15 05:49 AM
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Or not appreciating them
/r/MensRights15/02/15 04:15 AM
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Im willing to bet that this is rarely successful. And in the few successes, it is likely much more murky forms of "rape" like marital rape or intimate partner rape. No way in hell that a guy who rapes a random woman in a dark alley somewhere is getting visitation rights.
/r/MensRights10/02/15 11:05 PM
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I agree, but I think this may be one of those mars/venus things tbh. My ex-girlfriend used to talk about her work to me; if she was talking about actual work I was usually interested. Whenever she started into gossip territory I usually couldn't pay attention. With her it was the opposite. If I talked about my work, she was all "that's great", and would kinda just let me drone on without ever adding anything to it. As soon as I started talking about how "this guy is a total dick" or "this girl i…
/r/TheRedPill09/02/15 06:12 PM
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Some MRA's and especially MGTOW recommend just that. But the MRM as a whole focuses primarily on due process rights, which are undermined by college tribunals, lack of consequences for false accusations - particularly those made under oath, and rape-shield laws, which rob men of the right to face their accuser. That is after all the mandate of a 'rights' group.
/r/MensRights04/02/15 01:06 AM
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Police and cameras and dorm restrictions, however, have a tangible impact on women's lives. They want rape 100% removed from women's lives while leaving the rest 100% unchanged. The only way to do that, of course, is if all men suddenly stopped raping women. That's why they're so stuck on the "teach men not to rape" thing. It's absolutely asinine, but literally ANYTHING else would require something of women, which of course is so oppressive shitlord and how dare you consider it.
/r/MensRights03/02/15 08:41 AM
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I had almost that exact argument the other day. They just keep moving the goalposts. Today's feminism is tomorrow's patriarchy. That's why I pretty much just don't allow the word 'patriarchy' to be used without explaining that it's bullshit.
/r/MensRights03/02/15 08:37 AM
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I made a post a while back about how the multiple definitions of feminism are little more than a gambit to insulate it from criticism. Feminism is the belief in equal rights between the sexes Feminism is the belief in equal rights for women. Those are the main two. So similar and yet so different. The first one sounds so inoccuous, and un-threatening. But oh... it also claims men's issues equally in its mandate. So if someone says "hey why are you not tackling X issue that affects men?" You retr…
/r/MensRights03/02/15 08:25 AM
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men and women shouldn't have to change their behaviors in order to not be victimized That sounds like childish fantasy. People change their behavior all the time in order to mitigate risk, and when they don't change their behavior, they knowingly accept the risk.
/r/MensRights03/02/15 08:15 AM
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Making decisions you later regret just comes with the territory when you're drinking. Adults understand this.
/r/MensRights03/02/15 08:12 AM
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First of all, he is taking the feminist view that frat houses = rape dens for the sake of argument. He doesn't actually believe that. Second, this whole "teach rapists not to rape" is the stupidest line feminists have ever come up with, and it boggles the mind that they haven't given it up yet. You go ahead and try to teach burglars not to steal. Meanwhile I'll just lock my fucking door and maybe get a dog.
/r/MensRights03/02/15 08:08 AM
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Even if, I heard orange is the new black.
/r/MensRights02/02/15 08:04 AM
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They're two different expressions of the same underlying principle: gyno-centrism.
/r/MensRights02/02/15 07:44 AM
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I think he's just trying to make a point, taking for granted the author's premise that declining marriage rates = bad. Whether that's a valid premise is a whole 'nother discussion.
/r/MensRights02/02/15 07:09 AM
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Are marriage rates declining because porn consumption is increasing, or is porn consumption increasing because marriage rates are declining? (And actually it's not just marriage. Increasing numbers of men are sort of withdrawing from relationships with women altogether, either by choice or because they just plain can't get any). Anyway, dudes gotta get their rocks off one way or the other.
/r/MensRights02/02/15 07:06 AM
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Thanks. There was a time when I thought my life was basically over. Im glad it didn't turn out that way.
/r/MensRights02/02/15 03:55 AM
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Tl;dr my life kind of fell apart, people in my life basically gave up on me, especially the women. Based on experience I thought that if I were a woman everyone would bend over backward to make sure i got back on my feet. Began to explore gender issues. Eventually took the "red pill" (lowercase). I was in college pursuing a computer science degree. I lived with my mom and two brothers. I worked and went to school... I suppose I pulled my weight but just barely. Mom died. I quickly got buried in …
/r/MensRights02/02/15 12:47 AM
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That doesn't make me in denial. Feminism is the summation of its effects and institutionalized views, which is very pro-female and often very anti-male. If you deny this then I'd say you're in denial.
/r/MensRights28/01/15 02:35 PM
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Its what mainstream feminism is about, and its fairly obvious. Your version of feminism is irrelevant to the larger discussion. All that matters is the institutional impact. EDIT: And to be clear, I don't identify as anti-feminist. I don't really give a shit about feminism until the propaganda comes up. I am a liberal, socialist, atheist, technocratic, MRA sympathizer.
/r/MensRights28/01/15 04:59 AM
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Oh god not this shit again. Patriarchy isn't a real thing because it implies all sorts of things about society that are inaccurate. Namely, it implies that men and men alone are somehow responsible for creating society. But that isn't really what happened... millenia of disparate societies competing against each other put selection pressure on those societies to adapt. Those societies that adapted best survived and eventally thrived, and those that were ill-equipped did not survive. It just so h…
/r/MensRights28/01/15 02:13 AM
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Everyone's saying get a lawyer. Fuck that, if he can somehow afford it, get two. One to handle the defense, and one to prepare a counter-suit. Get a PI as well.
/r/MensRights27/01/15 06:05 AM
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People are bitching about this being unscientific, and they're right. But the part about women being unable to act without consensus rings pretty true. As does the part about how male freedom is a creative - not a destructive - force. Also, the idea that the producers over-selected "drama prone" women might be somewhat true, but frankly, they're not all that difficult to find in this day and age. Particularly if they're targeting mostly young-ish (< 40 years old) women. Honestly I think that cho…
/r/MensRights27/01/15 05:55 AM
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Um... the wikipedia article still seems very pro-feminist / anti-gamergate. Is what this guy said even true?
/r/MensRights27/01/15 05:41 AM
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Gamergate was about journalistic ethics, not witch-hunting SJW's
/r/MensRights27/01/15 05:36 AM
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Reproductive privilege is the most important part of female privilege. Im very surprised I had to scroll this far down to see it.
/r/MensRights27/01/15 05:18 AM
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It's true. If they're hideous or really fat, I'm just like... "How dare you."
/r/TheRedPill21/01/15 07:09 AM
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I have not seen any sources where they address male polyamory and how it impacts relationship stability. I find it likely that this is because its a statistical non-factor.
/r/MensRights18/01/15 01:22 AM
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The same doesn't apply to men. Probably because hypergamy is not a male trait. Even those older but still successful and attractive men whose wives have grown unattractive generally do not consider leaving her. The ability to pair-bond for men can only be hampered by trauma or pathology. Loyalty is a male trait even if fidelity isn't necessarily. Hence the phrase "men are dogs". Besides, women are pretty much the divorce-ers. EDIT: reapeated myself myself
/r/MensRights18/01/15 12:21 AM
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Actually I think it's worse... the male-on-male version, anyway.
/r/MensRights18/01/15 12:02 AM
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It's also kind of a detriment to the gene pool. If a guy is the "best father available" I'd think as a species we would also want his genes - in addition to his influence - to be the ones passed on rather than the other losers/douchers.
/r/MensRights17/01/15 11:52 PM
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I dont think that these women understand that cuckolding is to a man what rape is to a woman.
/r/MensRights17/01/15 11:17 PM
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Yes there is something wrong with being a slut. High past-partner count in women is heavily correlated with higher divorce rates. The reason is somewhat uncertain and probably beyond the scope of this discussion. But IMO, a woman who is slutting it up is ruining her abiliity to pair-bond, either because she's too addicted to the thrill of a new sexual partner or because no single man can compare to the giant list of men she's had before.
/r/MensRights17/01/15 11:14 PM
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Its that thing women have where most men are completely invisible. Except the kind of obnoxious douchebag who really does just walk around and expect the seas to part. Of course half of these guys can fuck any woman they want to. Soooooo.... good job women in discouraging this behavior.
/r/MensRights12/01/15 03:41 AM
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Well first of all he cherry-picked a handful of issues. Some of these are on our radar, but most are nowhere near the top of the list. But more importantly, it makes no sense. He says that looking down on men for being feminine in any way is misogyny. If that were in any way true, people would also frown on women for being feminine, but that doesn't happen. What you do see is a very large push for women to be able to be whatever they want... feminine, masculine, childish, mature, sluts, virgins,…
/r/MensRights05/01/15 02:35 AM
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Yes, that is the other part of feminism, the false narrative and misleading/inaccurate statistics.
/r/MensRights04/01/15 11:33 PM
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I never understood that mentality. I can choose to ignore opposing viewpoints in the moment but I'd never want to shut them out of my life. Even retarded shit like this. I can always tell em how it really is if I want.
/r/MensRights30/12/14 01:58 PM
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This is only funny because its true
/r/MensRights30/12/14 01:54 PM
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Regardless of your stance on abortion, it is a freedom that women currently enjoy. Making it illegal or restricting legal access to it is by definition restricting female reproductive choice, regardless of whether that is the goal or merely a side effect. My original point is that the MRM should (and I think generally does) support expanded reproductive freedom for men, rather than reduced reproductive freedom for women. In this sense, we stand apart from the pro-life community. EDIT: grammar
/r/MensRights27/12/14 12:21 AM
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Yeah but the only way to sort that out is to have at least SOMEONE out there visible to the mainstream. Even if it were a bombastic type. Just so people have some idea what the MRM even stands for.
/r/MensRights26/12/14 04:20 AM
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Sub-consciously they do. I can't source it right now (about to eat Christmas Dinner) but Im 95% sure that black faces (specifically black male faces) incite the fear response in the brains of people of all races, even other black people. Also, Im relatively sure they have done studies where hiring managers, all things being equal, and not having met or spoken to any applicants, are far more likely to show interest in candidates with white-sounding names than those with black-sounding names.
/r/MensRights26/12/14 12:46 AM
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Feminists are racially ignorant on this issue, because they fail to fathom the possibility that this behavior is not only normal in the black community, but that it doesn't make black women in these communities uncomfortable. (Source: grew up in black neighborhoods during my teen years). The women either respond positively by approaching the man and talking to him, or they respond negatively by loudly insulting his manhood, after which any other guys in the vicinity laugh at and make fun of him.…
/r/MensRights26/12/14 12:41 AM
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Paternal (financial) abortion is a reproductive rights issue, as is shared parenting IMO. The other guy already mentioned male birth control, which feminists and women in general are somewhat hostile towards.
/r/MensRights25/12/14 11:57 PM
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This article is ridiculous, of course, but it's also alarming how easy it is for feminists to conflate the MRM with radical right-wingers who have no known MRM associations. It's really time this movement found or promoted a more visible spokesman. So far the best its done is find reasonably sympathetic female proxies like Christina Hoff Somers or Helen Smith. But even they have very small voices. People need to know that the MRM isn't about restricting female freedom like these tradcons seem to…
/r/MensRights25/12/14 11:34 PM
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Agreed I dont find this misandric at all.
/r/MensRights20/12/14 01:39 AM
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Is it just me or does this sound like the plot of a wes anderson movie?
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 01:09 AM
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This should be higher. Not only for judging the methodology, but to make sure that the "6 in 1000" figure isn't only the reported assaults. The article doesnt make that clear. I could read the report myself but Im a lazy fuck right now. (Its not that I don't believe that the total would be that be that low. Its just important that the MRA community doesn't go spouting off misleading statistics.)
/r/MensRights12/12/14 05:18 AM
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I support unions, but they really don't have the same kind of leverage they used to. Out-sourcing and especially automation are such easy alternatives to domestic labor. IMO the problem is that we still rely on a system that distributes wealth via work, but there is less and less work to be done every day. Less work should be a good thing, but not if it means a handful of people are reaping the benefits of the decreased labor needs, while the rest of us scrape by.
/r/MensRights11/12/14 04:40 PM
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Could be much worse. If you leave an 84 year old man tied up in his apartment... well manslaughter could have easily been in that list of charges is what Im saying.
/r/MensRights28/11/14 06:05 PM
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Yeah that was stunning. "He reported me????" Idk, it's like there's too many movies where women do shit like that to men and the man is just like "Sigh... she got me. I shall try to not let her beguile me next time".
/r/MensRights28/11/14 06:02 PM
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The age of consent in New York is 17, which may at least partially explain why Aronson isn't facing any charges. Um... no. If he had sex with them, this wouldn't "partially explain" it. It would completely explain it. But since they didn't have sex, there is no explanation necessary. Unless you want him charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor for offering them alcohol, which is a misdemeanor anyway I think.
/r/MensRights28/11/14 01:41 AM
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Wow wikipedia refuses to even say a work is critical of feminism even when wikipedia's plot synopsis makes it obvious. BTW is this worth watching?
/r/MensRights07/11/14 08:22 AM
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Perhaps. I think rising tuition costs are more complicated than just "schools want money". College is basically the new high school, and the entire system was not built to handle that kind of demand. The costs of expanding the system are fairly enormous. TBH, though I view the push toward a nationalized public school system that is 100% free (I think we all know thats the end-game here) as well-meaning but short-sighted. Jobs are just straight up disappearing. Even a college degree means very li…
/r/TheRedPill27/10/14 12:29 AM
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Do you have allergies, or a deviated septum perhaps? That could be whats causing you to sound like that. There are obviously medications for allergies, and there is a surgical procedure to correct a deviated septum.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/14 08:35 PM
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The general impression I get from women is that cologne etc is best if its subtle enough that it doesnt immediately make them think "oh that guy is wearing cologne". In other words, it shouldnt be enough for it to consciously register.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/14 08:27 PM
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Absolutely. Im half filipino. Its extra weird because the right side of my face grows hair like a white guy and the left side grows hair like a filipino.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/14 08:19 PM
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Elizabeth Warren can steal the nomination from her.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/14 07:57 PM
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Im not saying there isnt room for some superfluous human labor. But not nearly in the numbers needed. The mere fact that you call it a facade sort of speaks to what Im talking about. A more practical solution is to gradually mix in wealth re-distribution as jobs disappear... and it should have started decades ago. Iirc there was serious talk about basic income as early as the 70's. Instead we expanded/created 100 means-tested welfare programs that I guess accomplish the task but are woefully ine…
/r/TheRedPill24/10/14 10:09 PM
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Well I feel you on that. I'm a software developer. The video i mentioned addresses your point about artisans and craftsmen. Those professions aren't safe either because computers/robots can do them too. Perhaps just as well as humans or even better. And besides, there is no such thing as an art and music based economy because those things are dependent upon popularity. Second, I think in an age of absolute abundance (which an automated society necessarily is), there's nothing scary about artific…
/r/TheRedPill24/10/14 07:53 PM
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Yeah pretty much. This may be beyond the scope of this forum but to sum it up, I think capitalism is outdated because the human worker is increasingly becoming obsolete. I'll attempt to illustrate that point below, but there is a really good video on Youtube called "Humans need not apply" that does it better than I can. The part evsryone knows is that manufacturing workers have largely been replaced by machines. But that isnt the end: its just the beginning. Right now its clerical and low-to-mid…
/r/TheRedPill24/10/14 07:22 PM
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Im not particularly interested in a free market type. With the human worker becoming obsolete, capitalism is becoming out-dated. If I were going to waste my vote, it would go to the green party. They advocate some of my preferred solutions, such as Basic Income, as part of the party platform. Social-libertarianism is great, but that train is riding ahead at full steam pretty much regardless of what happens in the short term.
/r/TheRedPill24/10/14 06:23 AM
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The problem is republicans are so extreme its absolutely unpalatable even for moderate democrats, much less hard-left types like me. However, I really am convinced that Hillary isn't just a feminist but an extreme worshipper at the altar of Feminism. The Jerry Falwell of feminists. So she wont get my vote. I'll waste my vote on the Green Party before I vote for her. Im crossing my fingers for Elizabeth Warren. She might be a feminist too but she strikes me as a real warrior for poor people, not …
/r/TheRedPill24/10/14 04:43 AM
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Even though im a true blue liberal, Hillary will under no circumstances receive my vote. The "lesser of two evils" argument isnt good enough in her case. Id vote for Elizabeth Warren, who maybe has similar views on gender issues but focuses almost entirely on real income inequality. Not made up feminist wage gap BS
/r/TheRedPill24/10/14 04:34 AM
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The best version of myself by what standard?
/r/TheRedPill03/09/14 12:06 AM
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I disagree with you because I think simply not playing the game is can also be legitimate acceptance of the red pill. It can be boiled down to an effort/reward calculation, and in my case its not worth it. Not like I couldn't if I tried: I'm often told that Im fairly good looking, and people seem to hold me in high regard for some reason. Its just that for me to cross over into "alpha" territory, I'd have to do a bunch of shit that I hate doing. I dont like working out. I don't like being anythi…
/r/TheRedPill02/09/14 08:32 AM
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Do u really have to ask?
/r/MensRights02/09/14 07:57 AM
2

Can't believe the reactions. I guess all men aren't only potential rapists, we're potential pedophiles too.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 02:02 AM
1

You seem to be suggesting that everything outside of feminism are minor problems at best for MRA's. I disagree. To me, traditionalism was equally gynocentric, and much of what MRA's are fighting against comes from those gender roles. Additionally, corporatism is another player - more minor but still significant. It exploits gynocentrism in a manner similar to the government. It has learned that women will overlook male suffering that it causes so long as it pays homage to women and never margina…
/r/MensRights10/07/14 09:42 AM
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The justice system, for starters.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 09:26 AM
1

I mean he's clearly a bad influence on himself.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 09:25 AM
1

Nah. About twice that.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 09:23 AM
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well played, sir
/r/MensRights09/07/14 07:28 PM
2

So what. The injections are not the important part.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 07:25 PM
21

The outcry - not just from women's groups but from everywhere - would be so deafening. Death threats and even actual violence would ensue.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 07:19 PM
7

It's insult to injury. Confirms the second-class status of males.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 07:18 PM
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I think the larger of the two charges is "manufacturing child pornography." Which means he can't even have pictures of himself.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 07:12 PM
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I'm having a hard time You must be in Manassas police custody then.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 07:11 PM
1

that is true, but I think the importance of the relationships have been de-emphasized over time. Skype and one-visit-a-year is a poor substitute. Honestly I may be biased here. I grew up with a very large extended family that was very close. The last few years it seems like it has mostly dissolved and I kind of hate it.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 09:01 PM
1

Sure, but i dont think the complexity of the problem scales linearly. Typically, the larger the number of patients in the pool, the smaller the percentage of resources required for administration. Thats why individual health plans require more overhead than employer pools, and employer pools require more than medicare.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 08:55 PM
1

You really think that the tendency toward population mobility hasn't increased drastically in the last 50-60 years?
/r/MensRights08/07/14 08:46 PM
1

Single-payer has its drawbacks, for sure, but usually the paperwork of it is not a big deal. Other countries dont have huge backlogs of casework like the VA. I think the big issue there is a system that has languised in neglect for decades. EDIT: as for the ACA, I think part of the problem is how incredibly complicated it is. One of the benefits of single-payer is its simplicity
/r/MensRights08/07/14 08:29 PM
1

Not really what?
/r/MensRights08/07/14 06:36 PM
1

I mean the way people move all over the place for career purposes. Perhaps i should have said modern job market
/r/MensRights08/07/14 04:19 PM
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It's government policy, but it's more a function of our culture and our medical legacy. As for the safety net... nearly half of people do not pay into it, not really. I mean you can say they pay medicare taxes but often their total net tax is negative or neutral, even for lifelong workers. So it is a safety-net both in name and in effect. At the risk of oversimplifying things... folks is just broke
/r/MensRights08/07/14 05:09 AM
3

I don't need an "excuse". I think a completely corrupt congress bent only on indulging the interests of the elites and winning elections actually constitutes a "reason." Not saying I agree with all or even most of what Obama has done or tried to do. I remember why I voted for him and I know that there's a lot of it that he never really even pushed for. But it's just intellectually dishonest if you don't identify congress and its blatant obstructionism, partisan bullshit, and endless bending over…
/r/MensRights08/07/14 05:03 AM
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I don't believe I'm misinformed, I addressed most of those points. What are you suggesting... that patients with emergency illness/injury be turned away? If that's your stance then, um... ok. Chalk it up to never-gonna-happen and never-should-happen
/r/MensRights08/07/14 04:34 AM
14

You want to know what Matriarchy looks like? Look no further than urban black communities. Because - and I've said this before - mothers nurture, but fathers teach. These young men learn a bastardized version of masculinity based on territorialism and violence, because the fathers have been removed from the home. It doesn't help of course that any sense of community that once existed has long been shredded by the marginalization of the extended family and the scattering effect that modern capita…
/r/MensRights08/07/14 04:21 AM
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Not especially, no. The federal government spent plenty of money on healthcare, but this was largely due to its role as the safety net: it covered the least healthy, and therefore most costly, patients (the elderly, the uninsurable, the disabled, to some degree poor families). In terms of control over the marketplace... maybe. But I don't know of a developed country in the world that doesn't have a highly regulated healthcare industry. I mean you kind of have to regulate an industry in which the…
/r/MensRights08/07/14 03:45 AM
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sure, but shitty president is worlds apart from worst president of all time. And frankly, there is enough blame to go around. Even good ideas get turned into mush by Washington.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 03:36 AM
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I don't think it's spin. Bush left office with an approval rate in the teens. I believe its risen considerably since then. Memory is weird.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 02:50 AM
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Not a big fan of ACA, but let's not act like healthcare wasn't already fucked.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 02:48 AM
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that's true... I guess I didn't consider the fact that this was on huffington post.
/r/MensRights07/07/14 02:48 AM
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It's a good article, but I think posting here is redundant. It's kind of common knowledge around here. It actually would make a good post r/feminism, although you'd be banned shortly. It still would be fun to see them try to explain away these sentiments or deny them.
/r/MensRights07/07/14 12:18 AM
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Personally I have a hard time focusing on the victims because we never really know anything about them. There is a big difference between a 17 year old who pressed the issue with an older teacher and got what he wanted, and a 15 year old who consistently froze while his teacher blew him.
/r/MensRights07/07/14 12:02 AM
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Oops I almost raped you just then. Should have had my morning coffee lol so careless.
/r/MensRights06/07/14 11:55 PM
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I think I get what you're saying. That even if MRA's pushed this back into the discussion, feminists could quickly re-frame it as "their idea" (I mean, technically it was). I think then that it would be important to make a lot of noise before taking any procedural steps. Idk how capable the MRM is of waging a media campaign, but it does seem prudent to make it known to the public that this is now a Men's issue, not a feminist issue, before allowing it to go to the politicians.
/r/MensRights06/07/14 11:56 AM
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Actually i still think it's hypocritical for feminists even if it is characterized this way. I mean, the basic idea of "can't get laid" shaming tactics is that a man's value is determined principally by his sexual value, as determined by women. What is that? The subject-object dichotomy that feminists like Anita Sarkeesian like to cite?
/r/MensRights06/07/14 11:39 AM
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Okay, on the off chance that you aren't some troll, I'm going to attempt to address your concerns honestly. And I'm sorry if I'm telling you things you already know, but I have no way of knowing that. The "H" in "MHRM" was added by some members of the men's movement to help communicate to the masses more accurately what this movement is about. Often people hear the term "Men's Rights" and immediately think "Male supremacy". Such is the nature of discourse within gender politics. Identifying it a…
/r/MensRights06/07/14 11:29 AM
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This isn't about men's "ability" at all. That dynamic isn't accurate in my opinion. When women point out that a man "can't get laid", she is pointing - quite simply - to his sticker price. He is a commodity. Women are the buyers, the sellers, and the assessors all in one. This is in many ways an extension of Briffault's law. It's just like how an individual woman tends to regard men whom she has no use for as invisible. If a man has no value to women as a whole, he has no value at all, so everyt…
/r/MensRights05/07/14 10:31 PM
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Yeah stylistically thats difficult to listen to. Im usually down with folk/bluegrass influenced music, but i cant really listen to this dude shouting at me. Maybe you should just post the lyrics.
/r/MensRights05/07/14 09:51 PM
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As I said in another comment, I did not mean to suggest that it should be passed with that rider attached.
/r/MensRights05/07/14 08:53 AM
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Right, I did not know that that sort of language had been interjected before. But so what? Am I missing something in suggesting that it's possible to get the amendment back on the floor without the "Hayden Rider" or similar addendums? And then if another attempt is made to interject such exceptions for women, isn't that a fight worth having, and perhaps more importantly worth having publicly?
/r/MensRights05/07/14 08:42 AM
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Yeah to me it was the biggest red-flag/question-mark in the whole thing. I mean can we even meaningfully discuss the content of the study if we don't know who they're referring to?
/r/MensRights05/07/14 08:37 AM
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Lol, thanks, although as mentioned in other comments I do not appear to be the first to suggest this. Although I present the idea in all seriousness, I am not above saying I would enjoy watching the mental-gymnastics feminists would have to perform in order to openly oppose it (if that's the direction they went). But honestly, I think there could not be a bigger legal victory for the MHRM at this moment. And in my personal opinion, it would be a significant victory for human rights and autonomy …
/r/MensRights05/07/14 08:30 AM
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That's interesting, I didn't know that AVFM had addressed the issue. I'm also not familiar with the Hayden Rider, I'll have to look into that. I would like to think of a way to press the issue further. Perhaps we in this forum could start an official whitehouse.gov petition pressing the President to push for the ERA?
/r/MensRights05/07/14 07:30 AM
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I agree that that is the number one issue, but that is not what I asked. I asked for the "most immediate goal". I actually originally phrased it as number 1 issue, but changed it because that's not precisely what I was looking for. What I am asking is should the ERA be considered as the number one "action opportunity"?
/r/MensRights05/07/14 07:23 AM
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I do think we occasionally make the mistake of blaming some things on feminism that are really more to blame on traditionalism. Both are gynocentric and hostile to men, in my opinion, it's just that only one is overtly hostile. However, although feminism can be spared criticism in some areas, they cannot be given ANY praise when it comes to the plight of men. They deserve criticism of the hypocrisy of claiming to fight for "gender equality" when really they only care about one side of it. So whi…
/r/MensRights05/07/14 06:56 AM
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There is a reason that people of all sorts - not just feminists mind you - react negatively to the idea of male birth control. Because they know that they're losing one of the biggest ways there is to control and enslave men. Through unwanted fatherhood. If men were allowed the ability to indulge their sexual urges AND preserve their autonomy (without having to undergo a surgery that is only semi-reversable or use condoms which are inconvenient a lot of the time), then it would be very difficult…
/r/MensRights05/07/14 06:40 AM
2

"Entitled" men and women? Does anybody know what they're referring to here? Does this mean rich?
/r/MensRights05/07/14 06:32 AM
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Fair enough. I would argue that being depressed doesn't rob a person of his logical faculties, just makes it more difficult to address things logically. But that's neither here nor there I guess.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 04:34 PM
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yeah that's fair enough. I suppose i might argue that most heterosexual men go through at least a phase where their time, effort, and mental energy revolve almost totally around women - some can suppress it but I think most succumb for a while. So it's somewhat rational if you want to embrace this drive rather than fight it.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/14 10:41 PM
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BJJ is pretty much a core discipline of MMA. Along with wrestling, boxing and modified Muay Thai kickboxing. That toolkit is the standard MMA toolkit. That's not to say that guys with unique skillsets can't have success - Lyoto Machida and Anthony Pettis for example - but you have to be fluent in those other disciplines if for no other reason than to defend against them. This is particularly true of wrestling and BJJ.
/r/askTRP01/07/14 06:08 AM
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I think GirlWritesWhat was my "red pill" (not the sexual strategy but the metaphor), and it opened up this whole new world for me. As I familiarized myself with the concepts, I began to adopt parts of each. I'm an MRM-supporter (I never felt right saying I'm a Men's Rights Activist when I don't really do any activism) when it comes to gender politics. I espouse these positions online and when I feel I can get away with it in the "real world". I'm a MGTOW in my personal life. I'm voluntarily celi…
/r/MGTOW01/07/14 04:25 AM
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Well, I think once a real war is on, you can't say that with any degree of certainty. My grandfather was an electronics tech in the army, but he has a purple heart. EDIT: spelling
/r/MensRights01/07/14 04:03 AM
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I'm not really a red-piller (not that I don't agree with the strategies presented here, it's just not for me at the moment). But I'm willing to bet there's at least a few guys out there who wouldn't be here today if they hadn't found this place, so those of you fostering novel conversation and supplying useful information deserve a pat on the back. I honestly think that if Elliot Rodger had found this place instead of PUA and PUA-hate, he and his victims might still be alive. The "manosphere" (g…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/14 03:53 AM
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I support abortion rights, but I support the 1st amendment more. The last thing we need right now is more limits on how, when, and where you can protest. I think these abortion protesters are pricks, but they are entitled to be pricks, unfortunately.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 06:01 AM
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actually i think that that will become a question more and more rich people ask...
/r/MensRights30/06/14 05:55 AM
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They all are. And the conservatives are just as gynocentric but in a very different way. It was conservatives after all that killed the Equal Rights Amendment, because it would have "not given women anything they didn't already have, but would have given them new obligations, such as the draft".
/r/MensRights30/06/14 05:53 AM
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Games are judged by whether they are fun or not. No one gives a crap how many male vs female leads there are except non-gamers like Anita. And before the PC police that seem to be infiltrating this subreddit try to argue the point, let me just pre-empt: no, it isn't the case that more girls would play if there were more female leads, and no one in their right minds believes that bullshit. If it were even a remotely credible hypothesis, the gaming companies would be all over it. Man - atheism, ga…
/r/MensRights25/06/14 07:37 AM
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I think it would behoove us to be a little more skeptical. As I noted in another comment, there is a very real chance that feminism will try to co-opt awareness of men's issues as a feminist issue - making the MRM seem superfluous and selfish because feminists were "fighting for women and men all along". All while basically only paying lip-service to men's issues and keeping a near universal focus on preserving and strengthening female privilege at the expense of men. There are other issues with…
/r/MensRights25/06/14 06:52 AM
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GirlWritesWhat did a great video on this (can't remember what it's called so I can't link to it, sorry). I'll try to paraphrase: A woman has this big trump card - it's called a uterus. However she behaves, she has inherent value because she can produce a child. She can display other positive qualities, but they are essentially icing on the cake. She retains her value regardless of other qualities, for the most part. A man, having no uterus, must always match that trump card by establishing anoth…
/r/MensRights25/06/14 06:41 AM
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... is why we need The Men's Rights Movement FTFY. I've seen this predicted in the Youtube MRM space a few times but I can't remember by who... I think maybe Barbarossaa was one of them. The two great enemies of Men's Rights - feminism and traditionalism - will change their tune as awareness of men's issues grow. Feminism will try to co-opt it and act like it was their idea all along - but while still only really paying it lip-service and putting the real money behind women's causes, as always. …
/r/MensRights25/06/14 06:08 AM
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good lord
/r/MensRights22/06/14 11:38 PM
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Neither. This is the men's movement. It is about helping and advocating for men who live in a society that has too often forsaken them. Feminism deserves some blame, and we shouldn't hesitate to criticize it when appropriate. But we must remember that feminism is not the point, merely an obstacle. As far as legislators go, there are two ways to interpret your question. Should we criticize them? Yes, of course we should where appropriate - just like feminists. We must remember, however, that it i…
/r/MensRights21/06/14 08:32 AM
1

You could argue that, but marriage wasnt an arrangement they were forced into under threat of violence and death.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 10:03 PM
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They are privileged because they can do anything a man does, but they don't have to. This is partly a social-phenomenon, partly a legal one.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 05:54 AM
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To be fair, at least blacks were actually enslaved at one time, unlike feminists who invented a history where all women are enslaved by all men.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 05:13 AM
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While I'm pleased that Obama (or anyone in Washington for that matter) is finally giving some attention to men and boys, I am still slightly irked about the racial bit of it. While I recognize that minority males currently have the most problems, I think all men and boys share in those problems only to varying degrees. Particularly if this program is mostly about education and economic opportunities (which my brief googling seems to confirm), I think all men could use this same kind of attention…
/r/MensRights19/06/14 05:10 AM
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This. This all day
/r/MensRights18/06/14 04:16 PM
2

A more free and dynamic environment. For smaller kids, the emphasis should be on mixing physical activity with reading, writing, math, and scientific thinking (i.e., experimentation and problem-solving, not memorizing Isaac Newton's birthday). Things like Geography and History should be de-emphasized IMO because you have to give dumbed down versions in order for these children to comprehend it, and they end up with a lot of misconceptions. Children should be given ample exposure to the arts, tho…
/r/MensRights16/06/14 04:56 AM
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Yeah Poe's law comes to mind.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 04:28 AM
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Give your boss a choice: either you get a raise, you and your co-workers take turns with the delivery shifts, or you quit. You can find another job if it comes down to it, but I doubt that it will.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 04:21 AM
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Once again, another feminists trots out the whole debunked narrative of misogyny and patriarchy and backs it using the standard set of false statistics. Even if you accept all of that, her solution to this culture - to feminize boys - is just so strange and stupid. It is: 1) Manipulative. For some reason, feminists never think they can accomplish anything except through the actions of men. So she wants to grow a generation of men better suited to the task. No mention of training little girls to …
/r/MensRights16/06/14 04:13 AM
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I seriously doubt that there is conclusive data to support her claims. Even if a link can be demonstrated, there are so many other factors. A child being separated from his mother usually involves some kind of tumult in the family. Data gleaned from this sample group cannot be conclusive, in my amateur opinion.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 03:54 AM
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The writer is shuddering at the pandemonium a "crotch-grabber" would cause with today's overly censored and sensitive culture. In other words, she's saying there's a lack of mental toughness. That isn't to say that crotch-grabbing should be accepted, or that it shouldn't skeev people out. But in the end its basically "unwanted touching". It's closer to a nuisance than it is to an assault. I never understood the teach-men-not-to-rape thing. You can't teach deviants not to be deviants, at least no…
/r/MensRights16/06/14 03:45 AM
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I think what he's getting at with those three things is really one thing. It's a sense of identity, perhaps with a side of provisioning and protection. A mother in today's world certainly can provide the latter, but I'm not so sure about the former. I think a mother's nurturing and supportive nature undermines her ability to guide her children toward a positive identity - a sense of independence and an understanding of who you are and what you are capable of. And I think the proof is sort of in …
/r/MensRights16/06/14 03:21 AM
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Truth be told, I think it takes more than two parents. Ideally anyway. I read a column by Paul Elam (I think) where he claimed that the so-called "nuclear family" with one mother, one father, and 2.5 children was largely an American invention during the post WW2 era. He claims that in most of the world and most of history, children were raised in a household with lots of extended family and multiple generations. He claims - and I think correctly - that this is the environment that human children…
/r/MensRights16/06/14 03:12 AM
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Statistically I suspect its true that single fathers seem to perform better than single mothers, but this could be an issue with the sample size. There also is the issue that what seems to be the worst case scenario (voluntarily single motherhood) has no analog. There are no voluntarily single fathers. But whatever the case I think it definitely depends on the person - their capabilities and their character.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 03:07 AM
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Your father gives you your name. He gives you your story. He gives you your security. Beautiful words. Strange to think this came from Terry Crews who seems to play nothing but bizarre and over-the-top characters. I kind of get why they're defensive. The implication of fatherhood being so necessary implies that all the children of single moms are somehow lesser or not whole. It's understandable that that might upset them. On the other hand, they also are clearly clinging to the narrative of "Any…
/r/MensRights16/06/14 03:00 AM
2

I give this a pass on account of it being actually kind of funny.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 02:17 AM
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Intelligence in men is seen as sexy in our culture also. But what you're describing isn't "intelligence" per se. It's studiousness. That's less sexy. Men in our culture are supposed to be good at things without trying - a ridiculous notion, I know, but think about how often you see in fiction the troubled bad boy with a quick wit and a Genius IQ who never studies. He aces the test during the downtime from saving the world from monsters or whatever contrived nonsense the story revolves around. A …
/r/MensRights12/06/14 06:43 AM
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I wouldn't say they encourage gender roles and stereotypes, or at least I wouldn't say that's the goal. The MRM is an engine for changing the world. TRP is a forum for discussing how to live in the world as it currently is. A lot of posters may embrace gender roles as the optimal strategy, but in and of themselves these gender roles are nothing - they are a means to an end. I've soured on TRP of late because of what I feel is an overly gynocentric and somewhat misandric tone (overt pussy-worship…
/r/MensRights12/06/14 06:08 AM
1

Yeah there is kind of a loosely unified (if that makes any sense) community of SJW's out there, and being straight (or "cis" especially) is just another thing they can throw at you to expose your "privilege". In this case, I don't think this is genuine "straight-hate", more just another thing they can put on the checklist that lets them silence you.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 06:02 AM
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I don't think this is the same thing. Minorities get a little extra help at universities and public sector jobs, but it's not like black people are doing equally or better than white people in every metric and yet people are still bending over backward to uplift them. Which BTW, is the case with women. FYI, I don't support racial affirmative action, but I don't view it with nearly the same magnitude as the way we baby women and either vilify or ignore men.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 05:59 AM
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Many feminists would disagree for some reason. Well as long as it's a man who's murdered. Man murdered << Woman Raped Man murdered << Woman Murdered Woman murdered ? Woman Raped I'm not fluent in fem-maths.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 05:55 AM
2

This is why the scientific community is beginning to not take feminists seriously despite feminism having roots in the academic community. Free exchange of ideas is the underlying framework that makes finding good ideas possible.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 05:51 AM
2

yeah seriously...
/r/MensRights12/06/14 05:45 AM
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I attempted honest discussion on r/feminism and r/twoxchromosomes, and was banned from each within an hour. I think I got banned from some others too, maybe r/askfeminists, r/trollxchromosomes, and r/askwomen... Idk it's hard to keep track. And I was trying to have an honest discussion in all cases. I don't troll.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 05:43 AM
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Feminism is an echo chamber. When you stumble around in their world you start hearing characterizations of MRA's that are just completely nuts and unfounded. I've already discussed numerous times the SNL skit that talked about "protesting Planned Parenthood". Or the Detroit protest signs that said things about "Smash Capitalism!" You see things like that and you're like: holy crap... they think we're conservatives?? Are they even paying attention?? But being confused with a political ideology is…
/r/MensRights12/06/14 05:40 AM
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It's true that we don't know all the facts. But here's another article that adds some comments from the judge Suche said much of the evidence in the case was based on testimony from the victim and Vandermeulen, who denied the allegations and said the sex was at all times consensual. The victim said she didn't want to have sex with him but was afraid to refuse him. Suche said the testimony of the victim was "straight forward and matter of fact," but Vandermeulen was "evasive and sometimes vague."…
/r/MensRights12/06/14 05:25 AM
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Oh I totally agree. Only reason lumped them in together is that in terms of the MRM they tend to be rhetorically similar.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 03:24 PM
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The fact that they mention capitalism should tell you all you need to know. It's just like the SNL skit where they mentioned protesting planned parenthood. They have no idea what the MRM is. They seem to think it's a hardcore version of neo-conservatism. If anything the MRM seems to be full of left-leaning people who think feminists and SJW's have perverted the word "liberal", with a healthy minority of conservatives/libertarians. That's what they don't get. The MRM is a diverse - if still relat…
/r/MensRights10/06/14 07:16 AM
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I think the mainstream of the MRM is that neither party is very friendly. Both seem to embrace gynocentrism in different forms. And frankly I don't think it will matter. Both the left-leaning and right-leaning members know that they need each other.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 06:50 AM
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I understand what you're saying, but the general perception is that both opinions presented in those articles are mainstream. Off the top of my head, Zach and Miri tackled tackled this issue a bit. And you can see it in how it's taboo for men to really talk about this stuff, but women throw parties devoted solely to it.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 06:34 AM
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We also know these to be the prevailing sentiments across our culture. The topic is explored in Zach and Miri, for instance.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 06:12 AM
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This isn't a feminism thing, this is a woman thing. Feminism amplifies it, but all women - for whatever reason - have this subconscious need to keep the "price of pussy" so to speak inflated. One way to confirm this is to talk to women about prostitution. (I don't suggest bringing it up out of the blue, obviously, but occasionally it comes up). They will almost always react negatively to the idea of it... until the price hits a certain point. Most women will see prostitution as not only acceptab…
/r/MensRights10/06/14 06:09 AM
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Yeah this crap has been discussed ad nauseum. I'll re-iterate what I think is the most important part: this is based on a common feminist logical failing that some refer to as "All Feelz No Realz". The fact that a woman feels vulnerable and a man doesn't is irrelevant. The man is far more likely to be the victim of violence, regardless of how invincible he feels. The woman is relatively safe in most parts of the western world. Now, if anything, we should be trying to alleviate women's fears and …
/r/MensRights08/06/14 01:02 AM
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They gotta keep the "white knights" in line. They feign outrage so that all their worshippers will scramble to appease them.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 03:15 AM
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Yeah i know. My point was basically that I find third wavers to be much worse than 2nd wavers. At least you could sort of understand where second wavers were coming from despite their flawed ideology.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 06:36 PM
1

We sincerely believe our ideas are good for all men regardless of color, and most of us believe women will be better off in tbe long run as well. This idea is independent of race. And thats important, because as men we are naturally predisposed to protect all members of his community. Men run into burning buildings regardless of who is inside. It would be difficult to satisy our members' sense of justice if we did not take this impartial approach. However it should be noted that the changes we a…
/r/MensRights06/06/14 01:34 PM
0

To what cultural relatavism bullshit are you referring? I dont see where you got that from what I said. BTW, Im wouldnt call myself a leftist. The best word I've found to describe myself is Technocrat. Before that I called it "Star Trek Liberalism". Basically the belief that science and technology can solve every earthly problem within our lifetimes, and that we should be pouring all of our resources into tackling these problems. Its more complex than that but thats the gist.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 01:01 PM
1

The feminist attitude is that women are equal to or greater than men in every way. So when they encounter something like the tech field in which there are hardly any women it must be because either women are being discriminated against or made to feel unwelcome. Nevermind the fact that I've basically never met a girl whose eyes didn't glaze over when I tell her what I do (software developer).
/r/MensRights06/06/14 12:53 PM
1

You give third-wavers WAY too much credit. They complain about fucking everything. They complain about unattractive men buying them drinks even though they accept. About getting asked out for coffee in an elevator. They are spoiled brats concerned only with their own comfort.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 12:45 PM
1

They do when it suits them. University personnel are not exactly their favorite people for a multitude of reasons. But their ideas are bad. This isnt r/traditionalism. I dont think most MRA's want everyone to conform to the nuclear family bullshit that was invented after WW2. I also think MRA's on average wholeheartedly support a woman's right to choose and legal paternal surrender, whereas a conservative might begrudgingly accept the latter only because the ship has sailed on the former. They a…
/r/MensRights06/06/14 12:18 PM
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I wouldn't have said so before, but lately it's like the more I read TRP and PUA related stuff the more disconnected I feel those groups have become. It's problematic that those groups are offensive to mainstream types... but they're actually legitimately offending me lately. IMO they're not just getting into genuine misogyny, but blatant misandry as well, as if that makes any sense at all. I see more and more posts that are all about trashing so-called betas and chumps, and the overtones get do…
/r/MensRights04/06/14 06:26 AM
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He also mentioned men in his "final video" just as often as he mentioned women. He also had a history of attacking couples or groups of men/women, with no mention of attacks against only women. The guy was insane, but it was easy to see who he hated. He viewed himself as a good guy - or perhaps the best guy if you believe his rhetoric. He hated all the "sexually active" men who in his mind were undeserving, and also all the women who gave these undeserving men sexual attention.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 03:53 AM
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Sort of touched on this in another thread... Comedy. In my opinion it's usually the precursor to changing views. Black sitcoms helped humanize black characters in the eyes of white people. Will and Grace and various characters in romantic comedies helped humanize gay people in the eyes of straight people. I still have yet to see a buddy comedy movie where Seth Rogen keeps trying to get Jay Baruchel laid and after much in the way of failure and comedic hijinks, Jay finally realizes he doesn't nee…
/r/MensRights28/05/14 03:46 AM
2

I think it's more important to help young men realize that there is more to life than sex, and that you don't need sex to feel good about yourself. Shit, Newton - perhaps the greatest mind to ever walk this Earth - died a virgin. While I agree that virgin shaming is a problem, in the short term it's easier to provide a more resilient mindset to vulnerable men than it is to get the masses to behave differently. I actually don't know why we're not more tolerant of virginity. I mean in pop-culture …
/r/MensRights28/05/14 03:34 AM
1

Legal paternal surrender isn't just good for men, it's a good thing for everyone. If you look at the world, the kind of men fathering lots of children are just not very admirable and don't really have what it takes to prepare a child for adulthood. Those "good guys" seem to be getting frozen out of the mating scene altogether, partly by their own volition, I gather. And I find this damning, because in my view - while it's mothers who nurture - it's fathers who teach. But for some reason, many wo…
/r/MensRights08/05/14 02:48 AM
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This is wholly different from issues of female body image because it changes the nature of how men are judged. Whereas before male beauty was predicated more on actions, character, and what a man could create or accomplish, now it's just about being cut. It's a perversion, and it's unproductive. Instead of young men focusing on science, engineering, and even art and literature, it's all about lifting weights and protein shakes. As feminism spreads to Eastern cultures - the primary source of scie…
/r/MensRights22/04/14 04:26 PM
2

I think you nailed it. Sex is important to most men, I'd say, but it isn't the thing that makes you a man.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 06:22 AM
5

This is what I'm talking about when I say pussy pandering. The prevailing attitude in our society is that men MUST be validated by women, particularly by sexual attention from women, and these kind of posts reinforce that notion. For me, part of taking the "red pill" involves a conscious effort to separate one's sense of self-worth from one's sex life.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 06:19 AM
3

The information here is useful. I didn't mean to imply I am a pure MGTOW where women are not a part of my life. But beta-bashing is counter-productive IMO, and pussy pandering is only a good sexual strategy if the only thing you care about is quantity.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 06:13 AM
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The problem I have with this post and this sub in general is the overt pussy-worship. Some men dont have a ton of options because they generally are more interested in other things. We sort of lament the 80/20 mating split, but we're not going to spend 40 hours a week lifting weights, adjusting our wardrobe, over-grooming etc etc just to become part of that 20% when we'd rather spend it scribbling on whiteboards, painting pictures, making music, writing code or even playing video games or making…
/r/TheRedPill13/04/14 08:03 AM
3

It's worth it to have a few female friends, if for no other reason than it makes it easier to approach other women. For whatever reason, women feel more comfortable with a man who has been "vetted" by other women.
/r/askTRP09/04/14 11:53 PM
1

I'm not going to sugar coat my views. Particularly on Reddit.
/r/MensRights02/04/14 11:45 PM
1

What's wrong with generalizing? More to the point, how can you have a meaningful conversation about any large group of people without generalizing?
/r/MensRights02/04/14 10:49 PM
1

Dear intellectuals of the MRM. Your one and only priority henceforth is to remove from the mainstream all credibility of patriarchy theory.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 06:09 AM
1

He also said CNN's Don Lemon was a "white leader". (this is Don Lemon: http://blogs.ajc.com/radio-tv-talk/files/2012/07/Don_Lemon1.jpg)
/r/MensRights01/04/14 06:04 AM
2

This is pretty small-potatoes. I'm all for pointing out double-standards when it comes to stuff that can have a tangible impact on people's lives. But I always thought of the MRM as fundamentally different from feminism in that what we care about is fair treatment for both genders, not absolutely the same treatment. I don't want this movement to become the coin-flip mirror of feminism, where they point out things men are allowed to get away with and we point out stuff women are allowed to get aw…
/r/MensRights01/04/14 05:50 AM
3

The feminist viewpoint is that men cannot be objectified due to their privileged status. And feminists sort of police our culture, so... yeah.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 05:34 AM
10

Intellectually speaking, feminism is revisionism no matter what context it is applied to. A cigar is never "just a cigar". It is, in fact, always a penis. Everything is always a penis. Unless it's a vagina, or a uterus, or menstrual flow.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 01:46 AM
1

Most jokes girls make seem to center around name calling and belittling. Especially spoiled slut-princesses like her.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 01:17 AM
4

"... she promptly deleted my comment." Yep. Definitely sounds like a feminist to me.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 01:04 AM
7

Sometimes there just aren't enough lulz
/r/MensRights31/03/14 08:46 AM
1

Which part?
/r/MensRights29/03/14 09:43 PM
2

Yeah. What these SJW's don't understand is that the people who would be most helped by our advocacy (if any of our ideas were put into practice) would be men of color. Rape hysteria, harsh sentencing, kicking the father out of the house, poor performance in education, disproportionate violent victimization, etc, etc, has been far worse for them. But everyone else is starting to catch up, which is probably why the MRA is starting to catch on.
/r/MensRights29/03/14 09:41 PM
1

That last bit, about having to hide your pain. That applies to everything. It's why most of us end up coming here.
/r/MensRights29/03/14 11:44 AM
1

I feel you. But I try to remind myself that the religious fundies and tradcons are just as misandric and gynocentric without realizing it. The liberals are way better about virtually anything not gender-related, particularly anything having to do with science and infrastructure investment.
/r/MensRights29/03/14 11:23 AM
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She even says at one point "rich, white men". It's that thing that women have that only allows them to see men that are "above" them in some way. All the lower men are invisible.
/r/MensRights29/03/14 11:15 AM
3

Shit, I don't even need a MRM-related reason to hate this bitch. Her twitter profile says "I hate thirsty niggas". And she's twitter-famous primarily for tweeting provocative photos of herself. What a skunt.
/r/MensRights24/03/14 08:53 AM
4

Men would basically give up on life and the entire society would crumble since men do all the work that keeps the gears turning.
/r/askTRP22/03/14 10:52 PM
6

Feminists are against anything that reduces female privilege. A male birth control pill would definitely undercut their unilateral control of reproduction. And in many ways, all female privilege is derived from their control of reproduction. Even standard sexual economics would change once the pool of fertile men (or men who are willing to become fertile for the right woman) shrinks drastically. Right now, any man can be "tricked" into being a father. But with a male pill on the market, a man wh…
/r/TheRedPill22/03/14 10:50 PM
4

This is what Asian women are by natural and sexual selection FTFY
/r/TheRedPill17/03/14 01:50 PM
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Interesting perspective. The manosphere usually criticizes feminism for denigrating masculinity. But this author seems to think that our feminist culture also trains women to try to imitate men. I've never thought of it that way, but there's a certain logic to what he's saying. I think that's why I find dating in general to be so awkward. It's like the modern woman wants to act like a man most of the time, but will simply revert to femaleness when it suits her (read: when she wants something or …
/r/TheRedPill17/03/14 02:21 AM
3

Horrible. How police deal with DV disputes has to change.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 10:00 PM
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Well, she didn't actually slap him.
/r/PussyPass14/03/14 12:28 AM
5

1st wave was generally about women's suffrage and I think to some degree more freedom to work outside the home. 2nd wave was the 1960's, it's the feminism you might be most familiar with. Bra-burning, the sexual revolution, etc. 3rd wave is what you see on Tumblr. Spoiled brat women complaining about having to wear makeup and getting hit on by "creeps". Here's a brief caricature: "The patriarchy is always oppressing me!!" - sent from my iPad 3 that my daddy bought me while visiting the free wome…
/r/MensRights13/03/14 06:09 PM
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"Ambiently encouraged"... this means he has no idea what he's talking about, but the "noise" he's heard about MRA's all casts us negatively. In other words, he's still in the bubble, and he wants to stay there.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 05:23 PM
2

I knew very little about her before last night, suffice to say I don't like her. But I don't think she's an "insult to feminism". She is the poster-child for modern feminism.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 03:39 AM
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The only reason the portrayal of the MRA himself bothered me is the hypocrisy of it. Feminism sort of invented the idea that people (or in retrospect, women) should not be ashamed of their bodies or their sexual histories. Apparently criticizing Lena Dunham for being a fat slut is sexist, but criticizing any man for being a scrawny virgin is totally fine.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 02:54 AM
1

Sure, but it's intellectually dishonest to associate the MRM with that. MRA =/= conservative.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 02:50 AM
1

I usually enjoy it. This skit was an exception.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 02:31 AM
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I see it as an opportunity. The Men's Rights movement is basically unrecognized by the mainstream media. This is the first mention of it that I've seen in any mainstream outlet, and I feel we'd be remiss not to turn it to our advantage.
/r/MensRights09/03/14 12:23 PM
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We can't sit back and collectively groan about this, and we can't ignore it as "mainstream bullshit". This can definitely be turned to our advantage if we can flood NBC and SNL with enough feedback. No hate mail. No "bad words" that would allow feminists to discredit us. Factual corrections and a little strawman-burning, in sufficient numbers, is enough to make this a win for MRA's.
/r/MensRights09/03/14 06:08 AM
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Just came here to post about this. Wtf did I just watch?
/r/MensRights09/03/14 05:41 AM
2

Feminists fought to change the once venerable role of "father" from a necessary part of a family to something superfluous, a luxury that is not necessary. Now it sounds like they'd prefer a world where fathers are never in their kids' lives, where they are never anything more than walking child support checks. I'm sure the douchebag nether apes with six baby-mommas don't like paying all that child support, but really, it's the good guys - the ones who in the past were dutiful fathers and husband…
/r/TheRedPill04/03/14 09:10 PM
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The evo-psych reason is that a woman's promiscuity is damaging to her ability to secure male provisioning. The more promiscuous a woman is, the higher the degree of paternal uncertainty, and the less likely it is that her child's father will make paternal investment.
/r/askTRP04/03/14 08:48 PM
1

Whatever you call it, it still seems like you're advocating top-down control to correct for some perceived flaw in social dynamics.
/r/MensRights18/02/14 06:56 AM
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That's feminist theology you're peddling there. If women are under-represented in tech, it must be because somehow social norms discourage women from entering the field. I can't speak for all mra's, but personally I find this sort of thing demeaning to women while at the same time effectively harmful to men. I reject the notion that gender norms determine behavior; I think if anything gender norms are just a statistical average of individual choice. And we as mra's are supposed to fight this sor…
/r/MensRights17/02/14 07:29 AM
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Radfems don't even understand how much their ideas reinforce tradconism. women cannot consent to sex > women have no personal agency > women are equivalent to children > women need to be disciplined, owned, and controlled by adults, who are all necessarily men Good one, dumb bitch.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 01:04 AM
1

Unfortunately, it's not genes (or at least not primarily genes) that lead to this kind of nonsense. It's her ideas that need to be discarded by society.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 12:59 AM
1

Agreed. It needs to be policy of this forum and the Men's Rights forum to screen shot this stuff or copy/paste it somewhere.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 12:57 AM
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Sure they do. This author, in particular, has negative value.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 12:55 AM
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I kind of agree, but somewhere deep down these women have to know that that perfect guy doesn't exist, right? They can't be that deluded. I think part of it is the whole notion that women are encouraged to "test drive" a bunch of dudes before they pick one. I get it, but I think it's based on flawed understanding. We as a species tend to overstate the differences among us. There isn't that huge a difference between one mate or the next, other than superficial things.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/13 06:26 PM
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I just realized that this may have been taken wrong. I meant look around as in "she looks around, wondering who to point the finger at." My point is that women see their happiness as something they're entitled to, whereas men believe they must earn it for themselves. I don't have any empirical data to back this up, it's just drawing on personal experience.
/r/MensRights29/12/13 12:41 AM
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Yeah you're right. I seem to recall her getting hit in the mouth for no good reason at times. Sometimes by dudes. That's how life is (for men, at least). No one likes to get hit. No one really likes to hit people, either. But shit happens. We deal with it. Women should learn to deal with it too.
/r/MensRights28/12/13 07:17 AM
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I'm not sure if you blame anyone but feminists. I know. Obvious. But they're the ones who've vilified men to the point where pretty much all violence against men is either acceptable, his fault, or just funny. I did always find it weird though how Buffy (and other super-chicks on that show) would just hit people in the face when it really didn't seem called for. I guess most of them had superpowers too, though, so it was okay?
/r/MensRights28/12/13 07:08 AM
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I think that, for a lot of us, this is what we thought feminism was about before we took the red pill. These iconoclastic women of the 1930s, like Earhart and Katharine Hepburn, remain her ideal feminist role models: independent, brave, enterprising, capable of competing with men without bashing them. But since at least the late 1960s, she says, fellow feminists in the academy stopped sharing her vision of "equal-opportunity feminism" that demands a level playing field without demanding special …
/r/MensRights28/12/13 06:58 AM
3

It's disgusting
/r/MensRights28/12/13 06:49 AM
1

Pretty much.
/r/MensRights28/12/13 02:41 AM
2

To paraphrase adam corolla: When a man is unhappy, he starts looking in the mirror. When a woman is unhappy, she starts looking around.
/r/MensRights28/12/13 02:40 AM
1

No fallacy. Just a waste of time.
/r/MensRights27/12/13 10:54 PM
15

Dare i say, feminism hurts women too.
/r/MensRights27/12/13 01:47 PM
5

The problem isn't that this woman has a wandering eye. It's that we as a culture encourage and enable it. This girl doubtlessly has 3-5 girlfriends who are willing to start tearing down the husband at a moment's notice, until the girl is convinced that 0 out of 10 "boxes" are checked. She has cougar-culture to tell her that she isn't fighting a losing battle against time (even though she is). And she has a host of talk shows, books, and columnists who always talk about finding that perfect guy a…
/r/MensRights27/12/13 11:58 AM
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NAWALT. Got it. Once all the other posters are done tripping over themselves to make you feel comfortable, kindly reflect on the irony of coming to a MRM space and calling NAWALT in the middle of an otherwise productive discussion.
/r/MensRights27/12/13 11:47 AM
1

They're trying to hold on to more privilege there. The "women as caregivers" motif buys them all sorts of goodies and sympathy. They don't want anyone to even think for a second that there's any alternative to handing over all of the state subsidies and private donations directly to a woman, to be distributed at her discretion.
/r/MensRights27/12/13 11:34 AM
1

Funny to use their tactics against them, but i don't think we should make a habit of it.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 07:31 AM
3

I never thought of it that way. I wonder how many MRA's intersect with my viewpoints (Libertarian, egalitarian, atheist, pro-science, pro-science spending, and of course MRA).
/r/MensRights20/12/13 07:27 AM
2

women and especially feminists tend to see "game" as offensive. like basically tricking people into sex. PUA's would argue it's no different than a woman who wears makeup.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 07:24 AM
0

That's because we never had any.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 07:22 AM
5

It says that his contract was only for two sports. And that another female teacher refused a third and wasn't fired.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 07:17 AM
2

MRM+ ?? No thanks. I'd say it's likely no one wants us anyway.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 07:09 AM
1

That is difficult to read. And I don't see your logic. Women are allowed to opt out of motherhood before the child is born through abortion, or after it is born through adoption or safe-haven laws, and they generally do not require a man's consent. So men should be given basically the same right. Fairness is correct. It's what this whole forum is about. And I am not overly concerned about the kids. A bunch of single mothers raising children is not that different than what we have now. If anythin…
/r/MensRights20/12/13 12:48 AM
1

You make some good points, and yeah a couple of mine lack detail, mostly because I don't understand them well enough to discuss with any authority. I hear other MRA's reference these problems, and I invite anyone who understands these problems better to elaborate. 8 is interesting. I'm not saying you're wrong, but explain what you mean to me by false accusations made in good faith. I know it can happen in other crimes, but it seems that that is usually a case of mistaken identity, which seems ra…
/r/MensRights18/12/13 06:48 PM
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I see what you're saying, and while it's definitely fair, I am of the view that marriage was a very good system in the past, from a utility perspective. It was viewed as a control on women's sexuality and freedom by feminists, but to me, the goal was really to give men a reason to work harder and thus lead to a robust economy. It's becoming harder and harder to extract this labor from men, when they don't see marriage as a good deal for them, and women IMO cannot make up this deficit, which is w…
/r/MensRights18/12/13 06:32 PM
1

Clicked the link thinking this would be about protecting men from being "trapped". Read first sentence. Vomit. The article says "15 percent of women visiting family planning clinics reported some kind of reproductive coercion". Yeah, but I'm willing to bet it's mostly men "coercing" women into getting the plan B pill or an abortion.
/r/MensRights18/12/13 06:26 PM
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If the ex will go for that.
/r/MensRights18/12/13 06:18 PM
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You definitely came to the right place if you're looking for sympathy. Indeed, this is why the general consensus here is that men should never get married. We've created a system where women get to have their cake and eat it too, at the expense of men, and the only women who really suffer are those like you who have the misfortune of loving one of these broken men. However, I think that your boyfriend's situation has more culprits than an unjust system of marriage/divorce. After some quick math,…
/r/MensRights18/12/13 06:15 PM
1

You could be right, but to me the issue is it is almost impossible to imagine a teenage girl sitting in front of a blackboard with the words "My name is X and I say stupid things to men" (I doubt any teacher would even refer to her male students as "men"). Even though plenty of girls do say stupid sexist shit, it would never happen.
/r/MensRights18/12/13 04:28 PM
1

Somehow I think if it were as bad as you suggest the punishment would have been more severe.
/r/MensRights18/12/13 04:24 PM
2

What goes through his brain? You, mostly. Love is tunnel vision. Hope he is okay after you're done with him.
/r/askTRP18/12/13 09:37 AM
9

Another feminist article that addresses the MRM without even remotely addressing the MRM. The LADS is strong with this one. EDIT: (LADS = lie abuse distract shame)
/r/MensRights17/12/13 05:17 PM
3

There's a reason I say feminism is a religion; I'm pointing out each's association with destructive ideas expressed in absolutely inane gibberish.
/r/MensRights17/12/13 11:30 AM
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My only problem with it is where it says "... to women". Again. I resent that an entire gender has protections against words.
/r/MensRights17/12/13 11:17 AM
6

I see the hypocrisy you point to, but I don't think that should be the focus here. I mean, this isn't r/feminismIsStupid - it's Men's Rights (agreed there's some overlap, but I don't think this is an example of that). And for the most part, our philosophy tends to emphasize that gender differences are real and that there's nothing wrong with that. Indeed, I view it as insulting to both genders to claim that our biological and psychological differences are manufactured. Both sexes should be proud…
/r/MensRights17/12/13 09:11 AM
2

Yeah but there's a significant difference between convincing someone that there's double standards in the way men and women are allowed to talk to each other, and the way that the courts, the police, the government etc regard men and women. Still. I think most of us (especially the former feminists) had a pretty sudden fall into the MRM.
/r/MensRights17/12/13 08:52 AM
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It's starting to feel like that. If you can get someone like me, who as recently as the 2012 democratic convention got tingly feelings when Sandra Fluke gave her address... well, you can get anyone.
/r/MensRights17/12/13 08:49 AM
1

Tell her to knock it off or you'll leave her or call the cops.
/r/MensRights17/12/13 08:39 AM
3

Yeah that's happened to me a few times. It's hard not to feel violated. I'd let this one go. Complaining to her boss will just make you seem like an ass, if he even takes you seriously. The only thing you could have done was admonish her in the moment. I suppose you still could say something to her about it in private if it's still bothering you.
/r/MensRights17/12/13 08:37 AM
3

Like GeorgeOlduvai said, we advocate against violence of any kind. However, we also advocate against arrest and prosecutorial policies that are heavily biased against men in DV cases. DV is not a gendered issue, but the courts, the police, the feminist lobby, and many academics make it one. EDIT for additional question: How can you be so closed-minded as to tell people how to approach any issue, but especially one as complex as DV? If we are trying to dispel the notion that Domestic Violence is …
/r/MensRights17/12/13 08:02 AM
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Gotta love that top comment: I’d love to have a job where I could skip out on my duties to write stuff on the Internet attacking a colleague/guest/supporter of my organization, and then get full support from my bosses for doing so, without so much as a slap on the wrist. How did Ron Lindsay land such a cushy position? Until they said the name I thought it was about Rebecca Watson.
/r/MensRights17/12/13 07:36 AM
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It's also just incorrect, since the story ends with no sex and him leaving.
/r/MensRights16/12/13 06:44 AM
2

I tend to reject the notion that criminality and violence is somehow a masculine trait. Firstly, because criminality requires a lack of reason, self-control, and ability to adapt to environment. I consider these masculine traits. Secondly, because there's a difference between having a willingness to commit violence and having a propensity for it. It is masculine to use force and violence when it is strictly necessary. It is not masculine (nor is it feminine) to be prone to violence. It is dysfun…
/r/TheRedPill16/12/13 05:10 AM
0

Yeah. I mean the idea of r/niggers is pretty disgusting, but this is supposed to be an open forum.
/r/TheRedPill16/12/13 04:49 AM
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Me too. It also taught me that liberals can be just as close-minded as conservatives, albeit in different ways. I still consider myself a liberal, just some of the mainstream stuff I have to reject. And frankly, conservatives aren't that different on issues of gender equality, particularly equality for men.
/r/TheRedPill16/12/13 04:45 AM
3

"Feminism" is enough of an insult already
/r/MensRights16/12/13 04:08 AM
1

I too am also confused too
/r/MensRights10/12/13 06:26 AM
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I have no idea. Maybe reddit as a forum opens them up to criticism too much. I hear they dominate the Tumblr scene.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 05:28 AM
3

We say these things because they're hilarious. We come up with the funny stuff. We also come up with the sweet stuff. We come up with everything. Women take what we come up with and make it suck. (EDIT for word choice)
/r/MensRights10/12/13 05:20 AM
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I've never heard of r/trollx, checked it out and it's private. r/trollxchromosomes just seems silly. Bunch of memes about periods.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 03:50 AM
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I knew it before I even clicked the link. Men's fault. We're "badly behaved". Yeah okay. Here's why that's wrong. We have a pretty reliable number for male extramarital affairs, around 20% (makes complete sense given the consensus that about 20% of men are considered universally attractive). They say only about 15% of women cheat. That's already too close to be saying that divorce is a result of "men behaving badly". But hold on. It gets better (worse?). We also are fairly certain that 10-20% of…
/r/MensRights10/12/13 02:20 AM
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What I read: "blah blah blah"
/r/MensRights10/12/13 01:13 AM
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It's funny how little it would have taken to keep us men happy and prevent the rise of the MRM altogether. We were fine with fighting all the wars, building all the stuff, doing most of the work, and generally being the lowest priority in terms of health and safety. We would have been fine with women keeping all their privileges, getting our obligations as optional "rights", and so on and so forth. All we need to make that okay is a little respect and recognition for what we do for women and for…
/r/MensRights09/12/13 11:29 PM
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I don't really understand the down-votes either. It's either women who don't want to admit they're shallow, or guys who think girls only don't like them because of niceness. The "he's too nice" thing does exist, but I don't think that matters until you get to guys who have only mild/mediocre physical appeal. Personality becomes a potential make-or-break factor for these men, as does social status, wealth etc.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 11:06 PM
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Sure, but we should probably just stop at the "not true" part.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 07:36 AM
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Snitches get a stern wag of the finger. There you go.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 07:02 AM
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I used to be a school principal like the one mentioned. But then I took an imaginary arrow to the knee.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 07:00 AM
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It's tough to judge this without knowing any of the details. Why even publish it?
/r/MensRights09/12/13 06:49 AM
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Well we should be thankful for Bill Burr. He's one of the few effective gateway drugs to the MRM out there.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 06:44 AM
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The mainstream crowd indeed does value critical thinking. That's why they are tied to "Skeptic" conferences. It's also why the most visible people in the group are scientists like Dawkins and Neil Tyson (I know, he often claims to be agnostic, but he decries the fact that even 7% of elite scientists believe in a personal god). The group puts scientists at the forefront because 1) scientists make up an appreciable fraction of their movement, and 2) scientists represent the qualities they care mos…
/r/MensRights09/12/13 05:26 AM
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There are a lot of women out there who use sex as a weapon. I experienced it several times in my Blue Pill days. It's particularly prevalent in women who grew up without a father in the home. Women lead men on all the time for personal gain. A lot of times it's not even conscious behavior. I chalk it up to female psychology. They want the ultimate male who both dominant and caring, but when they can't find that they'll try to gather bits and pieces of it from multiple men. It's girl-game, the ba…
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:38 AM
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I'd say it's closer to post-hoc justification of a gut reaction. "I'm supposed to like nice guys, and this is a nice guy. But I don't like him. He must be too nice." It all happens in an instant. If somehow their conscious mind catches how stupid that sounds, then they might start to project some "creepiness" or something onto him.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:24 AM
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They don't understand the meaning of the word "entitled". Entitled people don't ask permission, or feel the need to "work for it". The ironic thing is that the brazen, confident guys display a far larger sense of entitlement. And women find that irresistible most of the time. And yet somehow, the nice guys are entitled while the "alphas" are not. That's the reason feminist theory fails. Because unlike men, women are not burdened with an overwhelming need to make sense.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:22 AM
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That's B.S. The way I know is I see how unattractive men are treated when they are strong and forceful, and not nice. They are perceived by women to not only be unattractive, but to be dangerous. An attractive guy who is nice tends not to have any problems landing a girl. He may get run over by said girl eventually, but you know, she'll fuck him first.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:22 AM
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WTF did I just read?
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:12 AM
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There also is typically no examination of psychological issues resulting from childhood trauma when we examine male rapists of female victims.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:08 AM
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It's meant to suppress opposing view points. Pretty strange that an oppressed class has code-words designed to automatically silence its oppressors. It's almost like they have the oppressor-oppressed dynamic completely backwards.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 03:58 AM
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If it's any consolation, I laughed. Somehow I wonder if one day we will look at this situation as a microcosm for the MRM. The MRM will have to add more women to its ranks if it hopes to change anything, and there will be some conflicts with that. On one hand, part of why men come here in the first place is to have a "male-safe space" where they can act how they want to, while still discussing substantively. Part of being male is making dumb jokes and teasing women. On the other hand, women for …
/r/MensRights09/12/13 03:54 AM
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I would punch that woman in the face if I ever met her in real life, consequences be damned.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 03:45 AM
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It kind of looks like its trying to highlight female sexual power and claim that it is this power that oppresses men. That femininity itself is to blame. There's some truth to the idea that women are privileged because of their inherent sexual value. There's also some truth to the idea that women as a group use it to gain even more privilege. But that's incredibly myopic. IMO, the biggest thing that undermines men's rights is the way all of society shows a callous disregard for male suffering.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 02:44 AM
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/r/MensRights09/12/13 02:21 AM
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Where I take issue with this is in the perceived need to police speech to maintain the image of the group. This is an open forum, and in an open forum, ideas and arguments stand or fall on their merits. Whether the SRS crowd or just women in general might find a comment offensive is irrelevant. In the long run, if we commit to allowing free speech and treat the movement as a meritocracy of ideas, we will have the best ideas through attrition. Remember, policing speech is what feminists do. It's …
/r/MensRights09/12/13 12:28 AM
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Yeah ok. Next time why dont you simply refute the claim rather than chastising me for what you perceive to be irresponsible reddit posting. Sheesh.
/r/MensRights08/12/13 03:06 AM
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Well then we are only arguing about the definition of wealth. The Soviet example, in my opinion, is because they created an environment in which natural ordering was constrained. In a free market, resources naturally flow to where they belong. Slight alterations to the environment can increase or decrease the efficiency, but the tendency is always there. I am not trying to demean the role of businessmen, supply chain managers, factory workers, etc. Obviously their role is important, and the effi…
/r/MensRights07/12/13 09:27 AM
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Statistical thermodynamics would say that you have created nothing, you have only assumed a state that is more energetically favorable, and that the entire system necessarily tends toward that state. Or something like that. Armchair scientist here.
/r/MensRights07/12/13 09:11 AM
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It's especially weak, considering sauces are typically stored in such a way that they are non-perishable, meaning that eventually waste will become a non-issue unless somehow demand goes to zero. I think that's true for most products besides produce and meats, and very few products see demand go to zero. And in any case, what you're talking about sounds more like avoiding the destruction of wealth, rather than its creation. As a (clumsy) analogy: The UPS driver delivers you an iPad. And it's imp…
/r/MensRights07/12/13 09:07 AM
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Well if there were ever a legal fund for those falsely accused of rape, we'd know who to name it after.
/r/MensRights07/12/13 08:59 AM
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Women don't cost the nation money? LOL OK.
/r/MensRights07/12/13 08:34 AM
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It can apply to either gender, but it mostly applies to women. She obviously doesn't understand that all of the amenities she enjoys are completely the result of male endeavor, that men pay more taxes anyway, and that women require far more government support. But this author isn't even a whore. A whore at least understands that she must give something in order to get. This cunt contributes nothing and expects everything.
/r/MensRights07/12/13 08:28 AM
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Scientific progress and technological innovation create wealth. Everything else is just adjustment that allows business to be able to take advantage of those newer developments.
/r/MensRights07/12/13 08:24 AM
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I thought "pretty sure" was a decent indicator that I wasn't speaking definitively on the subject. And if you accept the claim, but point to the fact that the greater parental rights skew the numbers, well then all you're doing is backhandedly justifying the imbalance in parental rights by insinuating that it would likely be fathers who would be the predominant abusers.
/r/MensRights07/12/13 07:21 AM
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Or there's the other thing creationists do, which is to make up their own facts. Creationists say things like, "... transitional species have never been observed...". Feminists say things like, "... men abuse women far more than women abuse men...". Must be nice to be able to whitewash reality so easily.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 05:31 AM
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The results tell a different story. Yes, men and women are different. It's PC crap to suggest otherwise. Female sexuality is indeed "worth more" than men's (yeah, I really wish that one wasn't true, but I can't ignore reality and human nature). And women indeed have greater economic need because of their biology, particularly their more hurried biological schedules, medical costs, and the fact that really the work women can do effectively is a subset of the work men can do effectively (gasp). If…
/r/MensRights04/12/13 04:37 PM
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I'm tired of this PC crap. It's a DISABILITY. It's no different than if they removed spinal fluid from the kid shortly after birth because they wanted a special paraplegic snowflake. I mean, all it does is increase the chances that the kid won't be able to walk. God these idiots make me want to vomit. Parents are supposed to want their children's lives to be better than their own.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 04:49 AM
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One day they're going to have to explain this to the kid. Imagine that. A kid, grows up deaf, and while he doesn't hate himself for it, he does always wonder what it'd be like to hear music or the sound of a girl's voice or whatever. And then his parents are like "we did this to you on purpose". I remember when my mom explained to me what circumcision was and that she had had it done to me. Took me a second, but I eventually flipped my shit about it. And that's just a little bit of skin, and luc…
/r/MensRights04/12/13 04:43 AM
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She made up a lie. Then she used it to hurt a man. Kind of like feminism does to all men. Fitting.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 04:29 AM
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Yeah, and I bet a man who did that to her would get $80 and probation. Stupid cunt should go throw herself off a cliff.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 04:27 AM
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Last point first: WWII is post-industrial revolution. And those jobs were much less grueling than the majority of jobs that existed only a few decades earlier. And in any case, there still are tons of jobs that women either refuse to do or just aren't very good at, one or the other. Feminists don't necessarily comprise a homogenized group, but feminism can certainly be labeled a single movement that is characterized solely based on what its net effect is. And this is exactly the point feminists …
/r/MensRights04/12/13 12:51 AM
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Don't forget sexual assault.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 12:22 AM
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Nothing excuses this sort of behavior. You clearly are not oppressed if you can get away with that shit.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 07:30 AM
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Pretty sure mothers are the most likely abusers of children.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 06:57 AM
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Man at least the parents were on his side. Could you imagine the shitstorm if the parents had been a little less involved with the relationship, and, for instance didn't know the teacher was a man until the police called, or didn't know they would be travelling in his car alone rather than via school or public transportation with other kids?
/r/MensRights03/12/13 01:04 AM
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I can't remember the last time a man of real power was accused of rape. But I do know many great men who couldn't survive simple infidelity, which is orders of magnitude less serious as an offense.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 12:49 AM
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No matter how much female privilege is elevated at the expense of men, they are still the victims and men are still the oppressors. Still. So they are immediately absolved of any blame for anything that happens, and that blame immediately is placed on men, via "the patriarchy". This is why feminism is a religion. Where fundamentalist Christians basically justify any inconsistencies with "Because God is omnipotent", feminist gloss over inconsistencies in their worldview with "because patriarchy".…
/r/MensRights03/12/13 12:45 AM
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LOL ok, men don't want to have custody of their children because they love them, it's because they want to abuse and control their ex-wives. Us men should all just go kill ourselves, since we're presumably such terrible, abusive monsters. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 12:37 AM
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Point taken. What I meant was that they obviously didn't think it was misandrist, and someone should've said "well if it isn't now, it certainly will be...".
/r/MensRights02/12/13 11:53 PM
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Yeah, but let's be real. Of the solutions on the table during the banking crisis, what became TARP was the least risky. No one was suggesting what, in my mind, would've been the best bet, which was a structured bankruptcy and re-constitution of all failing banks, in which the leadership was removed in every case and shares of the company basically went to zero and were dissolved (not a financial expert, but my amateur research suggested this would've been the best way to handle it). My initial r…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 11:51 PM
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"My interpretation of my movement". Well, I didn't define "your interpretation", I defined my own. And who are you kidding, exactly, by saying "my movement"? Unless you are over a century old, I'd say this movement predates you. To elaborate on my interpretation: there is a gigantic difference between what feminists say feminism is about and what it actually is about. And that's kind of what taking the red pill is all about... on the macro/societal level it's about realizing that feminism does n…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 11:33 PM
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I tend to agree. But you know, you go where your friends go. And you can enjoy yourself at a club if you don't have your mind dead-set on picking up someone.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 11:02 PM
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She either expected him to just take it, or she is a complete moron. Probably both.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 07:37 AM
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Every time feminists make demands of Obama, he caves. This is why I've lost respect for him.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 07:20 AM
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I'm guessing you're a little bit older, or you don't really step into the club scene. Young women today automatically label a man who they don't like as creepy if he tries to talk to them.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 06:31 AM
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Yeah okay. I find it interesting that your argument is basically "because I say so", and yet you want me to source anything that doesn't agree with your worldview. Fine. Here is a study that says men's intution is at least as good as women's. Here is a reference to a harvard study on non-reciprocal intimate-partner violence. Funny that you say women's instincts are not based on empirical truth. For once we agree. I don't even think they're actually "instincts", just snap judgements based on sex-…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 06:24 AM
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Sure, there are some people who conform to behavior patterns that we associate with anti-social behavior and social disorders in general (avoiding eye contact is a good sign). But these people are few and far between, and if every guy who got labelled "creepy" actually had problems we'd have a nation with like 50% of men needing therapy.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 05:31 AM
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Excuse me while I dismiss your "feelings" as nothing more than that. TL;DR Women don't have superpowers, please get over yourself. How incredibly narcissistic to think that women have some sixth sense that men don't, not to mention the ignorance of science that is required to believe it. And how incredibly offensive to say something like "a lot of men are dangerous". What a load of bullshit. Violence is general is not normal in men. Violence against women is a pathology in men, limited to a tiny…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 05:25 AM
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I love when feminists start claiming that they working to alleviate the plight of both genders. LOL, no you aren't. Part of it is on purpose, part of it is just by having an incorrect understanding of the world, but feminism has never done anything but elevate female privilege by enslaving and demonizing men. Our gender binary has always been predicated on a system of rights and obligations. In days past, men had all the rights, but also had all the obligations, whereas women had virtually none.…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 05:08 AM
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What a load of utter bullshit. You're asking us to accept that women are mind-readers who can detect all of a man's faults within moments of meeting him. She of course doesn't know what they are, but she knows they're there, because she's a woman. It couldn't possibly be that women are having an unconscious reaction to an unattractive man displaying otherwise normal behavior, and are projecting all sorts of bad things onto him in order to justify that reaction. Men have never had an issue dealin…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 04:37 AM
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Lol ok. You're right it's not at all possible I just mentioned those names as a concise approximation of my views rather than writing an essay describing my views in the Reddit comment section. And what is it exactly that makes one "a liberal". If I am not, and if I'm right in inferring that Bill Maher is not, then who is, exactly?
/r/MensRights02/12/13 04:16 AM
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Thunderfoot is such a badass. I watched all his anti-creationist videos a couple years ago. What a pleasant surprise after I disavowed feminism to look him up again on youtube and find him dedicating several videos to discrediting feminists.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 07:14 AM
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I read on Forbes that an entire prenup can be invalidated for something as simple as "failing to disclose" or "undervaluing" a particular asset. So if hypothetically a wife can prove that the $20,000 car you disclosed was actually worth $22,000, that is grounds to dismiss the entire agreement. Ridiculous.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 08:18 AM
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I was always a liberal. I still am. I believed in the entire platform of the mainstream left. It's been awhile since I posted this, and since then I've decided that what I believe is much more Bill Maher / George Carlin than it is Rachel Maddow. In other words, I'm still a liberal, but now there's just a heavier dash of Libertarianism involved. I feel feminism has poisoned the mainstream left in much the same way some fiscal conservatives may feel that fundamentalist christians have ruined the m…
/r/MensRights25/11/13 07:05 AM
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Well, I just disagree that it's a two-way street. Let's put it this way. When I say bad fathers, I mean absent fathers. Somehow I doubt many men worry about absent mothers. The female impetus to choose reliable mates has been a huge boon to the development of our society; but is a relatively recent addition to her psychology. Free of environmental and social pressures to consider partnership qualities, she will revert back to more primal instincts to mate with apex males. This is already being b…
/r/MensRights30/10/13 07:48 AM
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Vomit.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 05:36 AM
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Well i get that /r/theRedPill is more a hangout for PUA's and whatnot. But I was under the impression that the term refers to the sort of "deprogramming" we undergo when we shed the mainstream feminist outlook on things. Who exactly am I worried about communicating bad connotations to, anyway?
/r/MensRights30/10/13 05:34 AM
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Well all your points are pretty valid... I didn't really come here to debate politics (still kind of in evaluation mode, not really ready for that yet). I suppose I take issue with the first part though. I mean men don't have a right to an abortion. I am very much in favor of legal paternal surrender, and I feel like until that happens reproductive freedoms will always be inequitable. I also happen to think it encourages women to reproduce with men who they might find desirable but who they prob…
/r/MensRights30/10/13 05:28 AM
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I'm trying to remember when the picture started to come into focus for me. I think it had to do with someone mentioning the "80/20" mating rule. Don't even remember when or where I read it. When I heard that number, it just sort of made everything not worth it. I mean I was like most guys in their 20's, hitting the bar/club scene and whatnot while I went to studied and worked. I would get laid every now and then, but nothing very fulfilling or memorable. But when you've been taught all your life…
/r/MensRights30/10/13 05:19 AM
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But GirlWritesWhat on youtube sealed the deal for me, I know that.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 09:04 PM
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I can't remember specifically. I know it all kind of dawned on me at once (when I was drunk, of course), but there was sort of a lead-up period lasting a couple weeks where I began to question my understanding of things.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 09:04 PM
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