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thehumungus/r/MensRights24/04/15 01:43 AM
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Discriminationthehumungus/r/MensRights27/04/14 05:02 PM
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Social Issuesthehumungus/r/MensRights14/07/15 12:31 AM
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Generalthehumungus/r/MensRights24/07/15 04:22 AM
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thehumungus/r/MensRights15/04/14 10:45 PM
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thehumungus/r/MensRights03/12/14 08:21 PM
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Blogs/Videothehumungus/r/MensRights10/07/14 09:45 PM
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Generalthehumungus/r/MensRights25/08/15 07:56 PM
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thehumungus/r/MensRights27/01/15 03:51 AM
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Men's Rights Newsthehumungus/r/MensRights16/04/14 04:57 AM
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thehumungus/r/MensRights10/09/09 05:21 AM
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thehumungus/r/MensRights14/02/15 07:11 AM
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thehumungus/r/MensRights09/01/15 12:05 AM
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thehumungus/r/MensRights11/06/14 08:06 PM
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The guy that did it and the people he did it to clearly feel something bad went down. If there's something wrong with your brain and you can't accept that, go right ahead and take it up with them.
/r/MensRights10/11/17 11:26 PM
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it's only libel if it's not true.
/r/MensRights10/11/17 11:12 PM
0

proof?
/r/MensRights10/11/17 11:12 PM
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I post here because I care about men's rights and actual equality. I just don't want to see people defending sex pests or calling any woman that makes an accusation a liar. What Louis did was not ok. The women he did it to say it's not ok, Louis himself now says it was wrong, yet people here are still trying to say it's ok. That's fucked up.
/r/MensRights10/11/17 11:11 PM
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They got together, collaborated on their stories then went to the press. This is libel and I very much hope Louis has the balls to take them all to the cleaners. People getting together and planning a crime is the legal definition of conspiracy, you daft tool. He's literally theorizing a conspiracy existed to libel Louis CK.
/r/MensRights10/11/17 09:43 PM
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lol the upvotes on this. You're a moronic conspiracy theorist. There's literally zero evidence for this theory but it's more comforting for you, so you adhere to it. Too bad Louis admitted it was true. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/10/563316860/louis-c-k-admits-to-sexual-harassment-of-multiple-female-comedians
/r/MensRights10/11/17 08:45 PM
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At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. Maybe you guys should learn from Louis rather than making the same mistakes he did. his full statement is here: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/10/563316860/louis-c-k-admits-t…
/r/MensRights10/11/17 08:44 PM
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You're right. The victims are the real wrongdoers here, rather than the sexual abusers.
/r/MensRights10/11/17 04:30 AM
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you're an autist
/r/MensRights10/11/17 12:52 AM
-6

Yes, he is retarded.
/r/MensRights09/11/17 10:39 PM
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According to the women themselves: They discussed curtailing the production. Ms. Corry decided to continue with the show. “Things were going well for me,” Ms. Corry said in the statement, “and I had no interest in being the person who shut down a production.” “It was something that I knew was wrong,” said the woman, who described sitting in Louis C.K.’s office while he masturbated in his desk chair during a workday, other colleagues just outside the door. “I think the big piece of why I said yes…
/r/MensRights09/11/17 10:26 PM
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repeatedly asked her to watch him masturbate, she said. It's not "respecting someone's wishes" when they say 'no' and you repeatedly ask them. Especially if you're in a work environment with power over them and what you're asking is if you can jerk off in front of them. Witch hunts are bad, false accusations are bad, but seriously, why are you defending someone that clearly behaved quite badly? Do you live in the real world and interact with people? Would you consider it okay for your co-workers…
/r/MensRights09/11/17 10:19 PM
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put her and Louis on an island to talk through their bizzare personal issues.
/r/MensRights09/11/17 10:16 PM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/arts/television/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct.html Each of these women said yes? Also, do you understand how coercion works for the ones that did?
/r/MensRights09/11/17 09:56 PM
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Maybe read the actual accusations.
/r/MensRights09/11/17 09:01 PM
1

Milo is a huckster. He just does shit to gain attention because that's how he pays his bills. He and his team fucking cheered when he was banned from twitter because he knew it would result in tons of people talking about him.
/r/MensRights26/07/16 04:09 AM
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The real truth about Milo people need to know is that he fucking hates you. Yes you, his fans. He hates every one of you and thinks you're a bunch of hateful idiots. He just knows that he can take advantage of you to make money and keep his career going, so that's what he does. He's a carny. A huckster.
/r/MensRights21/07/16 09:44 PM
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or she could be both?
/r/MensRights26/02/16 03:13 PM
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She, and 18 year old girl, was fucking her dad in the park then started fucking strangers that walked up and you don't think "something isn't right" applies?
/r/MensRights25/02/16 10:48 PM
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yup.
/r/MensRights12/02/16 07:12 PM
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Without weighing in on the validity of the reason this was done, transparency in pay is a good thing. Employees should know how much other people at the firm are making, so they can know whether or not they are being treated fairly. The only ones who benefit from keeping wages secret are the companies.
/r/MensRights12/02/16 07:01 PM
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It's 100% true that a good amount of the vitriol directed at her is because of her identity. This subreddit hasn't spent nearly as much time hating on Dane Cook or Carlos Mencia for joke stealing. It's also spent more time defending Bill Cosby.
/r/MensRights08/02/16 08:47 PM
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"Women Behaving Badly" posts are kind of lame.
/r/MensRights01/02/16 09:43 PM
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http://www.amazon.com/Act-Like-Lady-Think-Relationships/dp/0061728985 etc.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 08:29 PM
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Feminism of course models itself on Marxism Please elaborate on this theory, which I'm sure is well-reasoned and not just an attempt to link something you don't like to something that is unpopular.
/r/MensRights07/01/16 11:14 PM
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too late
/r/MensRights07/01/16 11:14 PM
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Is anyone actually doing this shit, or is it the equivalent of posting mean "sex moves" like the donkey punch, just being offensive and mean to be edgy? It's just stupid shit.
/r/MensRights07/01/16 08:49 PM
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girl scouts isn't nearly as cool as boy scouts
/r/MensRights07/01/16 08:47 PM
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this comic is shit
/r/MensRights07/01/16 08:40 PM
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This is not commonly accepted in the west.
/r/MensRights18/11/15 03:09 PM
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It also had a nice "look how this woman is victimized, men in the Internet are terrible" angle for pre canned stories
/r/MensRights05/11/15 04:06 PM
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It might be getting a lot of buzz in this community, but it's small potatoes. The battletech Kickstarter raised 2.5 million this month. You don't see much about it outside of the gaming press.
/r/MensRights05/11/15 03:53 PM
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This comic is fucking terrible.
/r/MensRights22/10/15 06:17 PM
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Hey man, this subreddit, ostensibly the home of concern for men, spends 90% of its time talking about women.
/r/MensRights14/10/15 03:30 PM
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You live in a fantasy world where debates between opposing viewpoints resolve them?
/r/MensRights08/10/15 08:46 PM
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fuck no, cosby is almost certainly a rapist. But because of his subreddit's agenda, they will believe insane conspiracy theories.
/r/MensRights30/09/15 03:13 AM
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you made the mistake of treating cosby as likely guilty. On this subreddit he is 100% innocent
/r/MensRights29/09/15 09:31 PM
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That is the correct legal standard. However, everyone here is acting like it's irrefutable that he's been confirmed innocent. Not "innocent until proven guilty" but "this guy is innocent and these girls conspired against him" and I am wondering what facts that determination was based upon.
/r/MensRights29/09/15 05:43 PM
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The prosecution doesn't compel, the court does. The defense can ask the court to order facebook to release all the texts. Instead the defense has asked the prosecution for texts that the prosecution claims it does not have in its control. I don't know what to make of that.
/r/MensRights29/09/15 05:06 PM
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Police records show Kost allegedly initiated unwanted kissing, touching, fondling, oral contact and intercourse with the girls. Text messages between Kost and various students detail threats he made, warning one girl he would tell the whole school about the encounter and that she should kill herself. http://www.copamonitor.com/news/article_b69eb5f2-74fc-11e4-bd97-ef17fccc2a76.html If we're going to take the texts you quoted as evidence, surely texts of him threatening girls to keep their mouths …
/r/MensRights29/09/15 04:48 PM
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They have texts from facebook posts among the alleged victims that strongly suggest that they were conspiring to frame him. Do they actually say anything about framing him? Or just about "getting" him? I only ever see the snippet quoted above, in the framing presented by his defense attorney, yet this subreddit acts as if it is 100% unquestionable that he is innocent and framed by evil women. Is there really no other evidence of the frame-up?
/r/MensRights29/09/15 04:38 PM
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Could someone provide a brief synopsis of the evidence that he is innocent?
/r/MensRights29/09/15 03:51 PM
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Then maybe we shouldn't be upvoting stuff talking about "Manginas" https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3mf9wl/mangina_plans_on_dumping_the_woes_of_the_world_on/
/r/MensRights26/09/15 06:10 PM
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you think random court clerks are actually verifying shit like this?
/r/MensRights26/09/15 06:06 PM
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While I understand the sentiment, I don't think we should listen to anything Iggy Azalea says.
/r/MensRights06/09/15 04:28 PM
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ah, my bad
/r/MensRights02/09/15 01:52 AM
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I thought we didn't like protesters interrupted speeches?
/r/MensRights02/09/15 01:35 AM
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everyone in the US is appropriating black culture to SOME degree is appropriation of any sort always a problem? Not if you ask me.
/r/MensRights26/08/15 09:09 PM
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I would say feminists are an off-shoot of tradcons and belong on the right wing of the political spectrum. I'd be interested in your reasoning here.
/r/MensRights26/08/15 07:18 PM
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what
/r/MensRights25/08/15 08:19 PM
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It's a venn diagram. Some substantial portion of the people here and in any men's rights discussion are there because they are red-pillers and agree with the aspects of mensrights that overlap with redpill. The rest aren't.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 06:13 PM
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So you're saying we shouldn't care about him or his rights because he's a "ideological traitor"? Is that who we are?
/r/MensRights14/08/15 05:36 PM
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same
/r/MensRights13/08/15 02:52 PM
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disagree on both counts there's also the matter of the way it's shot. It's always to emphasize the female nudity, to titillate the viewer with naked women (which isn't a bad thing in and of itself)
/r/MensRights13/08/15 12:48 PM
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by "naked" I included topless, yeah.
/r/MensRights13/08/15 01:50 AM
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are you a cop?
/r/MensRights13/08/15 01:37 AM
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you didn't read the piece
/r/MensRights13/08/15 01:21 AM
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The criticism is more nuanced than that. http://gotgifsandmusings.tumblr.com/post/117645193922/got-meta-depiction-vs-endorsement-and-sexism
/r/MensRights13/08/15 12:55 AM
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If the market is sexist, reflecting the market is sexist. Just like, you know, if there were a lot of people that really wanted to see racial caricatures, putting on a television program of racial caricatures would still be racist. Or you know, if a television program wanted to feature lots of disposable men dumbly dying for wise women, it would be sexist, even if that's what people want to see.
/r/MensRights12/08/15 10:55 PM
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citation needed
/r/MensRights12/08/15 08:56 PM
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Hrm... Naked women, clothed men: Mel and Stannis Mel and Jon Mel and Davos Margaery and Renly Dany and Viserys Dany and Daario Dany and Drogo Tyrion and Shae Tyrion and Ros Tyrion and prostitutes Theon and Ros Theon and Osha Varys and Ros Bronn and Tyene Bronn and prostitutes (multiple scenes) Littlefinger and Ros Littlefinger and prostitutes (multiple scenes) Oberyn and prostitutes Pod and prostitutes Joffrey and prostitutes Davos and prostitutes White Rat and prostitutes High Septon and prosti…
/r/MensRights12/08/15 08:33 PM
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NOT WHEN IT TELLS ME THE STORIES I WANT TO HEAR
/r/MensRights12/08/15 08:32 PM
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what makes people think this is a real screencap
/r/MensRights12/08/15 08:18 PM
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dude, what subreddit am I in? The CIA doesn't need to go through this bullshit to get him. They just accuse him of connections to terrorism and disappear him into a black site forever. They don't need to pay "feminist agents" to fabricate crummy little claims against him. If this WAS a conspiracy, they'd make him out to be far more of a monster than "bro doesn't use condoms". it's just crazy tinfoil rage at this point
/r/MensRights12/08/15 07:52 PM
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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
/r/MensRights12/08/15 05:58 PM
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Too bad. The actual allegations against him are most likely true. The allegations basically come down to him having consensual sex with two women (not at the same time) where both women insisted he use a condom. They allege he, at various times, broke the condom intentionally, or woke them up with unprotected sex. The women, to my understanding, never said they didn't consent to the sex, just that he was a weirdo about the condoms and didn't care what they agreed to. They sought the police to fo…
/r/MensRights12/08/15 05:42 PM
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a pretty inactive subreddit full of idiots that gets waved around constantly as an example of reddit administrator bias because it's held to different standards than other subreddits
/r/MensRights06/08/15 01:43 PM
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I can't believe people upvoted this.
/r/MensRights06/08/15 01:40 PM
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that shit is used to justify any dumb stuff that goes on in this subreddit. "Wow you're pretty hateful and thoughtless to be posting that in that way?" "Well DA FEMINIZT IS WURSE"
/r/MensRights06/08/15 01:39 PM
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If any manosphere sub goes, the first will be /r/TheRedPill which frankly is highly misogynist but to be honest I would be surprised if even they get the boot. I've said it before, but posts like this indicate a complete victim complex which is all too prevalent in this sub, many posters on this sub go out of their way to present themselves as somehow victimised even in situations where there has been absolutely no threat against them... /r/MensRights has not been threatened in the slightest but…
/r/MensRights06/08/15 01:38 PM
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Great job. This is just one small thing in the grand scheme of it all, but it was probably a huge huge thing for that family, and your contribution is an important part of that. I'm actually getting emotional. Just...good job.
/r/MensRights06/08/15 12:28 AM
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I mean, there's a lot of people on this subreddit that conflate redpill/pua shit and men's rights.
/r/MensRights06/08/15 12:14 AM
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google "topless maid service" for your city
/r/MensRights05/08/15 07:16 PM
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not wearing socks is gross
/r/MensRights05/08/15 05:07 PM
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I think that you'll looking too hard into this. They are saying an app encouraging abuse of a boyfriend by a girlfriend is offensive and makes them feel dirty/criminal, and that domestic abuse is no laughing matter. There's one sentence about how it could ALSO be harmful for encouraging/creating a space for apology for a similar abusive app where a man abuses a woman, but they are not saying that the only thing wrong with it. The article is saying the app is wrong and offensive on its face becau…
/r/MensRights05/08/15 05:04 PM
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When you say "should be settled" do you mean in the legal sense? Because that can't be done. The victim cannot settle out a criminal case, or prosecute it, or drop charges. The government prosecutor prosecutes criminal cases. As I discuss above, there is good reason not to rely on the determination of the parents. I do agree that this punishment seems harsh, but that's not really what I'm talking about here.
/r/MensRights05/08/15 03:00 PM
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*their
/r/MensRights05/08/15 01:37 AM
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what the fuck
/r/MensRights04/08/15 11:49 PM
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Thank you for the high-quality response. I've come to expect only the best here, and you've lived up to that expectation.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 11:43 PM
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Huh. Where is that? Pretty much feels obviously wrong to me.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 11:42 PM
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sure, why not.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 09:49 PM
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They just need to include race in this model and then everyone will be pretty damn quick to see what this "risk assessment" really is.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 09:07 PM
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As a liberal feminist, I am sure your expectations weren't very high to begin with. Yawn Grammatically you're implying you're a liberal feminist, which I find amusing. Why are you using liberal like a slur in this subreddit? Are liberals not allowed to be involved in men's rights?
/r/MensRights04/08/15 08:27 PM
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Thank you for the high-quality response. I've come to expect only the best here, and you've lived up to that expectation.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 08:11 PM
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Lol you're going to die alone. Thank you for the high-quality response. I've come to expect only the best here, and you've lived up to that expectation.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 07:53 PM
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most accurate comment. The dude was almost assuredly a creeper, the girl was a drama queen and her mom was white trash, and everyone went nuts over the perceived angle of the story.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 07:28 PM
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If I were trying to engage in any "barely legal" activity, I would be careful to make sure I'm within the boundaries of the law.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 07:05 PM
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I'm not basing my argument on that. I'm answering the question I was asked.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 06:56 PM
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did you even read the post?
/r/MensRights04/08/15 06:24 PM
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I'm too old to get involved with women anywhere close to the age of consent.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 06:03 PM
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I mean, he knows she's a minor, and is hoping to fall within the romeo+juliet exceptions. I think in that situation he should be maintaining a pretty high level of care. It's known that women, especially young women, lie about their age. He knew she was below the age of consent. Now, I'm not saying he should be on the sex offender registry, but he deserves some punishment, in my opinion.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 05:49 PM
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Just spitballing: Allow some age gap (if you're within 3 years, it's fine) Minimum age (not allowed to mount "mistake of age" defense at all if the young person is younger than 15, or if you're more than 10 years older than the younger person) the "mistake of age" must be demonstrated to a high standard ("they said they were 19" not allowed, has to be that you met the person in an area where minors weren't allowed, or that you can demonstrate that the person made a concerted effort to falsify th…
/r/MensRights04/08/15 05:46 PM
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What part should I get? Do you know what a strict liability crime is? I mean, thanks for the name calling etc, but I don't even understand what you're trying to communicate here.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 05:40 PM
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I think it should probably be a misdemeanor if you can't prove intent/knowledge, but I think there should still be some punishment. It's not that hard to not fuck people that are a lot younger than you, and sexual predators are out there actively trying to find ways to fuck children. They shouldn't be able to maintain a willful ignorance of the age of the people they're fucking as a defense.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 05:35 PM
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I specifically addressed the fact that statutory rape is a strict liability crime, and the basic reason why it is that way. Do you think it's okay for 19 year olds to have sex with 15 year olds?
/r/MensRights04/08/15 05:24 PM
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He IS a sex offender. He had sex with a minor. That's not in dispute. Just because you think he's being over-punished doesn't mean he didn't do something wrong. The "her parents are cool with it" argument is pretty invalid. If her parents hated the kid's guts and wanted him punished, would you accept that, too? If a 15 year old's parents are cool with a 45 year old man having sex with her, is that acceptable? Having statutory rape be a strict liability crime (meaning you don't have to prove any …
/r/MensRights04/08/15 04:53 PM
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I weep
/r/MensRights03/08/15 09:45 PM
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yes. you're assigning a group a trait based on their race. "White people are nerdy. Men are irresponsible horndogs."
/r/MensRights01/08/15 12:40 PM
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super dumb tinfoil hat shit, from a hard-right newspaper owned by a weird religious cult
/r/MensRights01/08/15 05:03 AM
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I made the assumption that it was the same thing based on the limited information here. I might be wrong.
/r/MensRights31/07/15 04:45 PM
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Sovereign citizens are fucking wild. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement
/r/MensRights31/07/15 01:54 PM
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Alternatively, if someone is posting wildly ridiculous shit and claiming to be a feminist, and MRAs are eating it up, it speaks volumes about MRA's distorted views of feminists.
/r/MensRights31/07/15 01:53 PM
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why would you assume I am a woman? what makes you think I shouldn't be here? I think the "free speech" argument is pretty lame here. I don't think you'd be making the "we should be able to talk about women how we want here" argument if someone were saying how women are superior to men because of their gender.
/r/MensRights31/07/15 01:52 PM
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yes I don't really find it hilarious, but yes, it's a troll account.
/r/MensRights31/07/15 04:40 AM
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and I will disagree with them when I think they are wrong in meaningful ways.
/r/MensRights31/07/15 04:23 AM
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Its certainly not nice, and you are ascribing a negative trait to a whole group of people. Kinda like "dumb" isn't the worst thing to call someone but saying "ethnic group x is dumb" is the definition of bigotry.
/r/MensRights31/07/15 02:30 AM
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that's not what I think, so I care because it reflects badly on me.
/r/MensRights30/07/15 09:28 PM
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"Women are boring" = upvotes. Way to live down to the stereotype of r/mensrights as a bunch of misogynists
/r/MensRights30/07/15 09:06 PM
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pretty much.
/r/MensRights30/07/15 08:39 PM
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It's a woman behaving badly. We're supposed to hate her and cheer, because that's what caring about men's rights is!
/r/MensRights30/07/15 08:39 PM
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this is a reddit post about Top Gear, so I'm talking about top gear. I realize that you know, global warming is going to kill us all. But for now, I'm in a reddit post about top gear, talking about top gear.
/r/MensRights30/07/15 08:07 PM
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the people who REALLY eat up fake feminist shit on tumblr are the lower grade of MRAs, because it confirms what they want to believe: that feminists are insane idiots that believe crazy shit.
/r/MensRights30/07/15 07:57 PM
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Nah, it always came off as "kidding....not really kidding" to me. "Mexicans are lazy and useless!" "You shouldn't say that." "Ha ha ha, I was only joking. Get a sense of humor. Seriously though, their country has problems because the people are so lazy." Just because he's a good and fun presenter doesn't mean he doesn't have problematic views as a person. He says bigoted stuff then hides behind the shield of "just kidding" like a child. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgABbHPdwH4
/r/MensRights30/07/15 07:50 PM
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Clarkson is a bigot and generally an obnoxious ass, even if entertaining. I don't know that he's someone we should hold up as an example.
/r/MensRights30/07/15 07:45 PM
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If you actually look at her posts it's pretty clear this is a troll account designed to attract MRA rage. http://lil-purrfect-femme.tumblr.com/ "4chan rapes by posting" "men looked at me in the mall = rape culture"
/r/MensRights30/07/15 07:43 PM
0

thanks for your updates on a facebook argument with some 19 year old
/r/MensRights30/07/15 07:32 PM
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So wait, are we supposed to cheer because someone that claims to have suffered horrible abuse at the hands of a regime known to have been horribly abusive has a shitty, messed up life now? Like, all this says to me is that this woman is a dysfunctional person now. That doesn't surprise me. She has problems and claims to have suffered a lot. If this was a male veteran suffering from PTSD this subreddit would be decrying the lack of mental health services he had received, not cheering for him to h…
/r/MensRights30/07/15 07:30 PM
2

how many of them are negative responses?
/r/MensRights30/07/15 05:53 PM
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who the fuck is this person?
/r/MensRights30/07/15 05:53 PM
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Yeah it's not going to be made illegal to disagree with feminists. Flush this shit down the toilet, where it belongs.
/r/MensRights25/07/15 11:03 PM
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^ example of comment of shitty quality ^
/r/MensRights24/07/15 09:26 PM
-1

The point is to get banned there so you can whine about it HERE and burnish your men's rights bonifides.
/r/MensRights24/07/15 01:22 PM
3

Lets hope people will accept it then.
/r/MensRights24/07/15 12:44 PM
0

Oh those are definitely part of it. and always, always upvoted.
/r/MensRights24/07/15 12:36 PM
1

sad times
/r/MensRights24/07/15 05:19 AM
-5

In general it does seem to me like the broad social outreach needed for genuine mens rights concerns is being hampered by the inchoate rage and hatred of so many people here, and their general fervor to just have an enemy and fight that enemy :-/
/r/MensRights24/07/15 05:06 AM
-9

And will you stop doing all that because some people on a message board disagreed with you? I might. The crazy people here live up to the stereotype and make it embarrassing to try to talk to people that haven't already drank the kool-aid about men's issues. Working within this subreddit is tough because anything that doesn't match the groupthink is just shat on as "SJW garbage". It's exhausting on both ends.
/r/MensRights24/07/15 04:51 AM
0

there's definitely some truth to what you're saying. It's not just one person. There's a large caste of idiot posters here, and a lot of what they say gets upvoted. This isn't just a reaction to today, it's from months/years of posting here. Almost any disagreement gets downvoted. I've repeatedly been labeled a feminist as an attempt to smear me. It's disheartening.
/r/MensRights24/07/15 04:48 AM
-10

Go fuck yourself calling me a concern troll. I've actually gone to bat for men's rights. I've been inside some of the worst jails in the US and documented the abuses there, as part of an effort to get change done there. I've worked on clearing the name and getting compensation for a wrongfully accused man tortured by the justice system. What the fuck have you done?
/r/MensRights24/07/15 04:43 AM
-4

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3cgfr3/judd_apatow_we_shouldnt_need_bill_cosby_to_admit/cte70yl or you know, the generic crap conspiracy theories that get upvoted: This is the #1 response to this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3echf3/story_of_the_boy_raised_as_a_girl_by_dr_money/ctdt7rr Or here, where I argue that a fictional character is intended to be interpreted as having been raped, someone says that's a crazy feminist reinterpretation of rape, and I post ext…
/r/MensRights24/07/15 04:38 AM
1

you're moving the goalposts. I"m just talking about you talking absolutely out of your ass about hearsay and not reading your own sources on the matter. In fact, if you look at what I actually said above... Maybe there isn't enough admissible evidence to convict cosby in a court of law beyond a reasonable doubt. There's more than enough to be pretty sure he did it. But whatever, you're ranting without any concern for the truth of what you're saying. I'm done. Read your own sources and maybe you'…
/r/MensRights24/07/15 04:20 AM
1

YOU DIDN'T READ YOUR OWN SOURCES The law is that you can't have someone come in and testify that you HEARD someone SAY it. Susan cannot testify "Jane said Cosby raped her" as proof of cosby's rape of jane. JANE can testify that cosby raped her. The point is cross-examination needs to be able to be done for the claim. READ THE SITES YOU LOOKED UP. YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND HEARSAY. It's literally written on the sites you looked up and you aren't reading it. am I literally going to have to teach you th…
/r/MensRights24/07/15 04:08 AM
2

Problem is that as much as you refuse to accept it, feels don't beat reals. An accusation is not evidence in court of that accusation unless it's it corroborated. The same applies to testimony that is an independant accusation whose sole claim to evidence is itself. They are, by LAW, declared HEARSAY and are INADMISSIBLE in court. An accusation can be entered into evidence as a victim impact statement or even a character witness only if there is corroborating evidence to establish it. Witness te…
/r/MensRights24/07/15 03:39 AM
1

It's called hearsay and is inadmissible. I stopped reading here. You have no idea what you're talking about. Go read what hearsay is.
/r/MensRights24/07/15 02:23 AM
0

I never pointed to that document. You brought it up as if it was wholly exculpatory. Contrary to what you may think, testimony is evidence. Many people testifying to the exact same thing in non-conflicting ways is a lot of evidence. The real world isn't CSI. There isn't always going to be a computer that says "guilty". Maybe there isn't enough admissible evidence to convict cosby in a court of law beyond a reasonable doubt. There's more than enough to be pretty sure he did it. It is ABSOLUTELY a…
/r/MensRights24/07/15 01:51 AM
2

“Robert’s face was dark with anger. ‘How many times must I tell you to hold your tongue, woman?’ Cersei’s face was a study in contempt. ‘What a jape the gods have made of us two,’ she said. ‘By all rights, you ought to be in skirts and me in mail.’ Purple with rage, the king lashed out, a vicious backhand blow to the side of the head. She stumbled against the table and fell hard, yet Cersei Lannister did not cry out. Her slender fingers brushed her cheek, where the pale smooth skin was already r…
/r/MensRights23/07/15 09:53 PM
3

wait do you actually believe this?
/r/MensRights23/07/15 09:21 PM
3

now that is a silly person
/r/MensRights23/07/15 09:14 PM
1

Uhhh, you're reaching. The person she's talking about doesn't want to be having sex with the person she's having sex with. It's forced upon her because she lives in a Feudal system and she's her husband's property. She wants to fuck her brother, not her husband. It's rape when you don't want to have sex with someone and they force themselves on you. Let me know if you need some more explanation of that concept, because it's too "feminist" for you.
/r/MensRights23/07/15 09:09 PM
2

If the genders were reversed it'd probably be posted in a different subreddit, and if it was posted here, people would defend it instead of being offended. That's just my guess though. :-)
/r/MensRights23/07/15 08:50 PM
1

Also avilable here: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/article4501473.ece What a shocker that hashtag activists jump on the story they WANT to believe and botch it up. Who would have imagined.
/r/MensRights23/07/15 08:46 PM
1

http://gotgifsandmusings.tumblr.com/
/r/MensRights23/07/15 08:34 PM
-1

Feminists in general don't think that. That's the point.
/r/MensRights23/07/15 08:25 PM
-1

disagree with me = "you're a feminist! rawr!" ok bro
/r/MensRights23/07/15 08:08 PM
-6

unknowable people aren't machines that reliably respond in certain ways all the time
/r/MensRights23/07/15 07:46 PM
0

Rapists do not give a shit if you teach them about consent. Rape is a violent crime perpetrated by a handful of individuals who have total disconnect and total disregard for other human beings. You can tell them about consent this consent that, that it is wrong to rape, they don't give a fuck. I agree with this. Many rapists are predators and prey on people because they can get away with it. They have long strings of victims and know what they are doing is socially unacceptable and wrong, but fe…
/r/MensRights23/07/15 07:31 PM
0

twox is your citation for the claim that a boyfriend that doesn't care about consent wouldn't only rape his girlfriend three times over two years, ergo he never raped her?
/r/MensRights23/07/15 07:21 PM
-5

In my experience, MRAs are quite ill-informed on feminist theory and arguments. They mostly spend their time talking about crazy bloggers or outright strawmen as "representatives of feminism." Or just anyone that says crazy shit, whether or not they're a feminist.
/r/MensRights23/07/15 07:20 PM
-2

A rapist is not going to just rape her 3 times in 2 whole years. citation needed
/r/MensRights23/07/15 07:19 PM
-2

you're criticizing victims with not behaving in the manner you expect/want them to behave in. That's problematic. abused children and adults are still often quite upset when separated from family members that abused them. Staying in a relationship with a rapist doesn't mean he didn't rape you. Not 100% of people respond in the best and most logical way at every turn.
/r/MensRights23/07/15 07:13 PM
-7

consent
/r/MensRights23/07/15 07:03 PM
-5

you're criticizing victims with not behaving in the manner you expect/want them to behave in. That's problematic. The article talks about shutting down, responding passively, blaming yourself. That's why people stay in situations where they are being raped in that way. Like, do you have any reason you think this is a "BS" theory other than your gut instinct? Because gut instinct isn't really the best way to navigate the world, bro.
/r/MensRights23/07/15 06:46 PM
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/06/23/why-many-rape-victims-dont-fight-or-yell/
/r/MensRights23/07/15 06:34 PM
-4

You're working with shitty information and should make an effort to be better informed if you actually want to advocate for men's issues.
/r/MensRights23/07/15 06:32 PM
-4

I talk to feminists and look at a lot of feminist crap. What you described is not the mainstream opinion. I'm sure you can find some psychos on the ass end of the internet that espouse such beliefs, but it's not any more representative of feminism as the guys saying women are an inferior gender and should stay in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant represent mainstream mens rights. You're working with shitty information and should make an effort to be better informed if you actually want to advoca…
/r/MensRights23/07/15 05:19 PM
-3

The people you've talked to are irresponsible idiots. That isn't what rape means and most people, feminists included, would agree with you.
/r/MensRights23/07/15 04:48 PM
-5

Feminists believe all (heterosexual) sex is rape and all men are rapists. This is really not true and shouldn't be upvoted. You're delusional if you really think that is the general opinion.
/r/MensRights23/07/15 04:47 PM
1

woman's testimony that she was raped: invalid, unreliable, and unacceptable Cosby's testimony that the women asked for drugs and willingly had sex with him: case closed I guess we see what we're working with here, as far as you go.
/r/MensRights23/07/15 12:38 PM
2

I wonder if people get that you're criticizing the post you're replying to here.
/r/MensRights22/07/15 10:38 PM
2

Yes, I think you are. twoX is really pretty inoffensive most of the time
/r/MensRights22/07/15 10:37 PM
12

It's important to some people on this forum to tear down anything relating to women or portraying them as victims in any way.
/r/MensRights22/07/15 09:53 PM
1

It was a joke. The point is that most sports "fans" don't actually have that much knowledge about the sport, but spend their time talking to other fans about their strong opinions on what the various participants should and shouldn't do, as if they knew what they were talking about.
/r/MensRights20/07/15 07:07 PM
1

It's pretty normal for some schlub that's never competed in the sport to sit around, drink some beers, and criticize an NFL coach's choices of offensive plays. Etc.
/r/MensRights20/07/15 06:50 PM
1

the chance of a woman being on the list is zero by significant digits. sounds like someone didn't read the article or is pretty bad at math. 2 of the 12 chosen as possibles for the team were women, so I'd say the chance of a woman being on the list isn't that low. :-)
/r/MensRights20/07/15 04:39 PM
1

You really have an axe to grind. The article mentioned the gender representation, because it's worth mentioning, but mostly just talked about what happened and what the competition actually is. They should have mentioned that the team is determined purely by ability to answer math questions, and the people grading the questions don't know anything about the person that submitted the answers, so any gender split is a product of factors outside the competition.
/r/MensRights20/07/15 04:35 PM
1

Why are there so many people there commenting on something they obviously know nothing about? Uhh, have you even posted on a sports message board before?
/r/MensRights20/07/15 04:31 PM
2

"I think women should be regarded as people and treated with the same respect as anyone else. The term "feminism" applies to a bunch of different movements with various stances, not all of which I support."
/r/MensRights20/07/15 04:30 PM
0

too late
/r/MensRights20/07/15 04:28 PM
1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspect_classification
/r/MensRights18/07/15 01:32 PM
3

actually she's supporting him financially. He's a stay-at-home dad. It might help if you actually read articles before commenting.
/r/MensRights18/07/15 12:42 AM
0

You seem to care a lot. Get over me.
/r/MensRights14/07/15 08:32 PM
-2

Quality post. A++++
/r/MensRights14/07/15 07:37 PM
-12

"Women can't park" is the definition of a sexist stereotype. Would you make the same "men and women are different and we should accept that" argument in a thread about how men are more likely to be rapists?
/r/MensRights14/07/15 03:53 PM
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I'm sure you'll post the same response here, right? https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3d8u7h/i_hate_all_men_because_killallmen_is_too_kind/
/r/MensRights14/07/15 03:52 PM
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most upvoted response is a sexist stereotype...awesome work, guys. Just awesome.
/r/MensRights14/07/15 03:34 PM
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I have no idea why you are getting downvoted Pretty much anything that doesn't just say "men are the victim: feminism the culprit" gets downvoted in this sub.
/r/MensRights10/07/15 06:50 AM
0

nope. I don't really bother voting tbh.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 11:20 PM
2

welcome to my life
/r/MensRights09/07/15 10:54 PM
0

Which basically outlaws "no shoes, no shirt, no service." No it doesn't. While I don't agree with the reason the florist turned down the couple, she has the right to refuse service to whoever she wants. This is explicitly untrue. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspect_classification
/r/MensRights09/07/15 10:54 PM
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I am willing to bet 96% of "rapes" are actually woman who engaged in sex, and the guy did something to piss her off or she regretted it, so she cries rape, and then the guy's life gets ruined. This is likely a losing bet.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 08:29 PM
3

A few, but far fewer than men. They matter too though, of course. Kind of like how it's also primarily a black problem, even though a large number of white people get the same treatment, and each instance matters, regardless.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 08:28 PM
3

30 years ago they tied you to a radiator and tortured you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Burge
/r/MensRights09/07/15 08:27 PM
0

When he said: I never said I agree with the guy, just that he has a right to voice his opinion, but clearly "free speech" doesn't mean what it used to mean.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 08:26 PM
1

Which thread are you talking about? This originally started because some lackwit whined that when he said, to r/atheism, while r/atheism was criticising some guy's offensive-to-them religious signs, "hey, this guy has a right to have signs, free speech!" as if that was a relevant point at all, that he was downvoted. I merely pointed out that he was a lackwit that doesn't understand what free speech in the US is actually about, or why his downvotes were well-deserved. Here is his post that got do…
/r/MensRights09/07/15 08:17 PM
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"Hi guys, welcome to r/bestmovies, where we talk about the greatest films of the 20th century" "Hey did you guys see national treasure?" "That movie was really bad. Bad acting, bad plot, bad cinematography" "HEY THEY HAD A RIGHT TO MAKE THAT MOVIE, IT'S THEIR PROTECTED SPEECH." "Uhh......why are you talking about that? I'm going to downvote you for this stupidity"
/r/MensRights09/07/15 08:10 PM
-8

nah man, dude is all up in my hindquarters
/r/MensRights09/07/15 08:08 PM
-2

In the US the right to "free speech" is the right to be free from GOVERNMENT interference in your speech. It is not the freedom for some guy with offensive messages in his yard to be free from criticism from redditors.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 08:06 PM
-7

go on
/r/MensRights09/07/15 07:48 PM
-17

you're infringing on my 3rd amendment rights
/r/MensRights09/07/15 07:48 PM
-16

no u
/r/MensRights09/07/15 07:47 PM
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your point was inane. The point is that what the guy was using his speech for was stupid, not that he had no right to say it. You were downvoted for being a dumbass that doesn't understand what "free speech" means.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 07:41 PM
2

There actually have been cases against Cosby, which is where the strongest evidence against him comes out. He settled them out with payoffs to the people bringing them.
/r/MensRights08/07/15 02:06 AM
-1

Brief timeline: http://www.vulture.com/2014/09/timeline-of-the-abuse-charges-against-cosby.html
/r/MensRights08/07/15 01:58 AM
3

What definition of "actual evidence" are you working with here?
/r/MensRights08/07/15 01:56 AM
3

No. Going to Cosby's house and doing something to him is mob justice. A bunch of people saying "Well, it certainly seems like he's guilty, given the large amount of credible accusations and the other evidence," is not mob justice.
/r/MensRights08/07/15 01:54 AM
1

Oh, are we talking about the improper evidence standard in the recent cosby guilty verdict? Or are we talking about what people at large believe? You're just playing fast and loose with entirely different arenas, choosing whichever rules best suit you, regardless of what you're talking about. You're one of those people that cites the first amendment when your friend tells you to shut the fuck up, aren't you?
/r/MensRights07/07/15 07:56 PM
0

There's a distinction between "a basis for reasonable belief" and "institutionally punished by the justice system".
/r/MensRights07/07/15 07:49 PM
3

We don't need OJ to admit it... There is an enormous amount of evidence that Cosby drugged women for sex. It should have been believed by reasonable people, even if he never admitted it, just as reasonable people believe OJ Simpson is a murderer.
/r/MensRights07/07/15 07:05 PM
1

What's the Citizen judge system?
/r/MensRights27/06/15 01:38 PM
0

I'm getting tired of hearing about shitty outcomes in "developing" nations with tons of corruption and then comparing those outcomes for women to the outcomes in the united states for men. It's dishonest.
/r/MensRights26/06/15 10:08 PM
1

and just think of what's happened to non-cops that don't even merit this much attention.
/r/MensRights26/06/15 09:51 PM
1

this subreddit likes taking anti-feminist stances a lot. There's also a lot of legitimate mens issues brought up. I suggest you just choose what matters to you and what you believe in, rather than seeking the proper herd to go along with.
/r/MensRights20/06/15 03:41 PM
1

lol ok. But uhhhh...why are we talking about this?
/r/MensRights20/06/15 03:39 PM
0

Not me
/r/MensRights20/06/15 03:37 PM
1

lol what
/r/MensRights20/06/15 03:27 PM
2

On the other hand, this guy does write for one of the biggest, if not the biggest, men's rights websites. We act like Sarkeesian is the queen of feminism because she has a voice that's proportionally nothing compared to this guy in her movement.
/r/MensRights20/06/15 02:58 PM
2

Seriously though, if Mens Rights wants to be a serious and actually accepted school of commentary on social issues and society, we need to not be following nitwits that just behave in reactionary ways and use the language of oppression at every opportunity without any serious thought. We need people that can actually consider issues and say "Oh, maybe feminists are right IN THIS INSTANCE, but they also need to consider that...." Because currently the inmates are running the asylum here and big-t…
/r/MensRights20/06/15 02:57 PM
2

Hey I"m quoted there!
/r/MensRights20/06/15 02:45 PM
1

I proceed to tell her that she doesn't know what she's talking about. This is going to lead to pretty hostile arguments.
/r/MensRights20/06/15 02:43 PM
10

Not everything is about us, man. This is distasteful.
/r/MensRights18/06/15 02:46 PM
0

Well, she was a stupid shitty character. Just like most of the cliche characters in the poorly written movie.
/r/MensRights15/06/15 11:27 PM
0

I did. That isn't in the messages they sent.
/r/MensRights14/06/15 08:27 PM
1

The prosecution says these things to the judge, and then the judge decides whether the argument is right or not.
/r/MensRights14/06/15 03:46 PM
1

It really depends on how the request was worded. If the acceptable demand really resulted in 98,000 pages of social media records and they're asking for MORE it does sound like they're just asking for "plz give us everything and we will try to formulate it into a defense." rather than "Please turn over all conversations prior to December 20, 2014 between X and Y, relating to Tyler Kost." Anyway, I'm just explaining how discovery works here. I'd obviously have to see the discovery requests to act…
/r/MensRights14/06/15 03:40 PM
1

mb. Here's a free link discussing the legal term a bit. http://www.texaslawyer.com/id=1202431545742/Filleting-the-Fishing-Expedition-Objection?slreturn=20150514103733
/r/MensRights14/06/15 02:39 PM
1

http://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/sdlr56&div=6&id=&page=
/r/MensRights14/06/15 01:41 PM
2

Mens issues are important and deserve better advocacy than they're getting.
/r/MensRights14/06/15 03:41 AM
3

I agree that it's better to let the guilty go free than punish the innocent, and justice systems should be based on that principle. What preconceived notions? I don't know any of these people, why would I have any preconceived notions about them? What quotes from the FB chats make it clear to you that the girls are criminals?
/r/MensRights14/06/15 03:10 AM
-1

other people here seem totally comfortable citing the logs as utterly exonerating without being able to see them
/r/MensRights14/06/15 02:18 AM
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Yeah I'm not at all against actual factfinding. What I am against is the fact that this subreddit has taken evidence that might support the idea that this was a conspiracy against the guy and conflated it with "the girls all admitted they made it all up. FACTUAL. PROVEN."
/r/MensRights14/06/15 01:00 AM
-42

jet fuel can't melt steel beams
/r/MensRights14/06/15 12:55 AM
-6

Because they requested a fishing expedition. "Give us everything and will sift through it to see if we can find anything to use." You have to be more specific in your requests.
/r/MensRights14/06/15 12:54 AM
-14

Look at it rationally and dispassionately. What is the hard evidence here that they "directly admitted they were going to pretend he raped them"? There are some quotes you could bend into that story, but that is not a "direct admission".
/r/MensRights14/06/15 12:45 AM
-24

There is evidence of these girls directly admitting that they were going to pretend he raped them as revenge. Where is that evidence?
/r/MensRights13/06/15 10:47 PM
-39

Yeah, rape victims would NEVER EVER think it would be fun to see their rapist suffer.
/r/MensRights13/06/15 08:51 PM
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In rape cases though, and anything else that gets a lot of media attention, a lot of it is fought in the court of public opinion. A lawyer will lie out his ass to the media to get people on the side of his client. I think if there were really exonerating quotes there, those would have been released by the lawyer, rather than just the "whee lets get him" quotes.
/r/MensRights13/06/15 08:50 PM
-17

everything I've seen quoted was stuff like: "I can't wait to see him suffer!" "We'll teach him a lesson!" Which some MRAs took to mean "vengeful women conspire to attack innocent man." When it could just as easily be "teen girls gleeful when attacker punished" One girl said in the Facebook conversation. Another said, "We need to come up with a plan. And yes. We should sacrifice him to Satan." The conversation later continued, "Lets (expletive deleted) with his mind and his car .... I already kno…
/r/MensRights13/06/15 08:36 PM
0

there's subreddits for this
/r/MensRights13/06/15 08:29 PM
-57

Last time I checked the facebook chats would also be consistent with people he had raped being excited to finally see him punished for raping them. Let me know if I"m wrong and the chats actually prove that they weren't victimized by him.
/r/MensRights13/06/15 08:27 PM
106

SOMETHING I DON'T LIKE HAPPENED TO ME SEXXISSSSSMMMMMMMMM
/r/MensRights13/06/15 08:26 PM
2

truefacts
/r/MensRights11/06/15 07:20 PM
7

"Women are scientifically proven to be inferior! and shouldn't be in STEM, just like this old white man says." "Here, have all the upvotes" "Why do people think this sub is a bunch of sexist white men?"
/r/MensRights11/06/15 02:00 PM
3

"lets call black people nigger and post racist shit"
/r/MensRights11/06/15 02:04 AM
1

good point.
/r/MensRights10/06/15 09:26 PM
-4

meh
/r/MensRights10/06/15 09:04 PM
1

"Frontiers in Psychology" is a pay-to-play journal, not a well-respected peer-reviewed source for reputable science. http://scholarlyoa.com/2013/11/05/i-get-complaints-about-frontiers/
/r/MensRights10/06/15 08:58 PM
-8

racism, especially of the subtle type, plays pretty well with large swathes of the US conservative population. Anyway, the big argument is that "the sjws have taken over reddit with their radical liberal agenda and will be banning everything they don't like." Which I won't believe until that subreddit is gone.
/r/MensRights10/06/15 08:54 PM
9

probably not. r/coontown is still up. They're letting subreddits offensive to liberal ideas stay up, so long as they play nice with other subreddits.
/r/MensRights10/06/15 08:37 PM
0

Remember how return of kings isn't a men's right site?
/r/MensRights07/06/15 03:46 PM
8

it's the united states. Everything just fits into the overarching professional wresting storyline of our politics.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 03:32 PM
11

but they have different political beliefs. I must villify the one that doesn't align with me, and venerate the one that does! How else can I make sense of the world!?
/r/MensRights07/06/15 03:31 PM
1

I nearly went to this school back when I was a kid (~1999). I did a tour there, was walking around with a student guide. I heard a big commotion, and there was a crowd of students near a doorway. My guide says "Oh, looks like they caught one in the pygmy trap". There's apparently a door to the student center that opens wide until the edge hits an opposing wall, meaning you can push the door open and enclose a tiny little triangular space. They'd trapped a 7th grader in there, and all the uppercl…
/r/MensRights07/06/15 03:27 PM
10

If you dont immediately recognize this as a troll comment you need internet training wheels.
/r/MensRights05/06/15 04:52 PM
3

uhmmmmm
/r/MensRights05/06/15 02:03 PM
1

is this a redpiller and a PUA arguing? dear lord.
/r/MensRights01/06/15 11:09 PM
-2

If you're going to outlaw prostitution, this is the enforcement model that leads to better outcomes. Under the model in the US, where you punish the prostitute most severely, you end up with an underclass of sex workers that are trapped without legal recourses when they are wronged, and people that prey on that. It's the same thing that faces illegal immigrants. They can't stand up for their rights in a lot of ways because they are doing something that the authorities will punish them for. It's …
/r/MensRights01/06/15 11:09 PM
5

Whats the story with duggar?
/r/MensRights22/05/15 08:28 PM
18

It was feminist, in the most basic sense: women are treated as people, sexual slavery is called wrong, etc. That is, the kind of dictionary femnism nobody should have a problem with.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 10:31 AM
-1

I think a lot is missing in your description of MRAs if you don'tmention something about the hard-on for attacking anything related to feminism
/r/MensRights15/05/15 12:21 AM
1

This movie looks amazing.
/r/MensRights14/05/15 11:30 PM
0

pretty much
/r/MensRights14/05/15 03:54 AM
1

It's ridiculous to think one person saying "I don't think so" is any kind of counterweight to the absolutely enormous amount of evidence in the other direction. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Savile#Allegations_of_sexual_abuse Shit like this gives MRA a bad reputation as general rape deniers.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 11:56 PM
2

and how many of the heterosexual prisoners got raped and didn't report it because another man "made me his bitch" Prison rape is the realest rape culture there is.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 11:52 PM
-4

no more gamergate
/r/MensRights08/05/15 02:16 PM
-6

Which person is more credible? You're on r/mensrights, every rape report is a false one here, and if you disagree, you're a SJW twat.
/r/MensRights08/05/15 02:13 PM
1

http://www.amazon.com/Problem-Solved-T-shirt-Shirts-X-Large/dp/B00MJ9X7SC/ref=sr_1_1?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1431094130&sr=1-1&keywords=offensive+shirt
/r/MensRights08/05/15 02:10 PM
-42

k
/r/MensRights08/05/15 06:15 AM
60

The funny part of this case is that the judge ruled that when you come in someone's mouth, the semen is a gift, so ownership of it transfers to them once you leave it in their mouth, and they can do with it what they wish. It's why I always yell 'YOU'RE WELCOME'
/r/MensRights08/05/15 06:13 AM
0

disagree = downvote. welcome to r/mensrights
/r/MensRights08/05/15 06:08 AM
2

I don't know if we really gain as a society by forcing booksellers to not sell books with content we find objectionable. I mean, what books do you think the feminists would like to remove from amazon?
/r/MensRights08/05/15 06:07 AM
-67

Not really. It costs money to live in this country. The child's mother is a felon and a sexual predator. The government does a shit job of providing for poor people. The court solution is to make the father pay the money. It sucks for the father, but what else are they going to do? I mean, we could say that a better system would be one where the government actually provides a reasonable baseline standard of living for everyone, and I'd support that, but that's not the world we live in. What outc…
/r/MensRights08/05/15 05:58 AM
-111

courts always err on the side of what does the most to provide for the child. It's semi-reasonable. This child exists. Should the court punish him because his mother is a rapist? I mean you basically have the choice between punishing an infant for being a product or rape, or a man for being raped. Either way it's shit.
/r/MensRights08/05/15 04:52 AM
-49

not really the same thing though.
/r/MensRights08/05/15 04:50 AM
-3

The article and comments generally are about how an all female office will fail due to negative traits inherent in women. Thats misogyny. Its just a random example. I dont know what to tell you if you dont think there is frequently misogyny in this subreddit. Its not all thatmens rights is about, nor is everyone involved in mens rights a misogynist, but some are attracted to it due to their misogyny.
/r/MensRights07/05/15 09:14 PM
5

this should be in redpill
/r/MensRights07/05/15 02:49 PM
-3

There is a large amount of misogyny that gets upvoted on this subreddit. Simple case in point: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/34ogjp/woman_starts_all_female_company_to_realize_her/
/r/MensRights07/05/15 02:46 PM
3

I know that in the first gulf war, the mortality rate for US troops was less than if there hadn't been a war. If they'd stayed at home, more of them would have fallen off ladders or gotten hit by busses (etc) than died in the actual combat zone. There's no way that's true of the George W. Bush invasion. Of course, the idea that wome are some kind of special case that are the sole victims of violence is completely ridiculous. But what can you do, that's what people want to believe. Apparently it'…
/r/MensRights07/05/15 02:40 PM
-1

Funny. I would have thought his book "Where Men Win Glory" would be of interest to MRAs in that it's a pretty good portrayal of how young men are lied to and cynically used up by the military system in this country. Krakauer is a pretty well respected author known for his thorough research. Dismissing him as a brain-damaged idiot just because he spouts the same feminist platitudes that a large section of the country does isn't very productive, it's just a preaching-to-the-choir circlejerk. If yo…
/r/MensRights07/05/15 02:38 PM
1

Many accusers, no trial. As innocent as cosby, I say! Who's with me, boys?
/r/MensRights07/05/15 01:23 AM
-3

"a business with all women doesn't work nearly as well as a business of all men, because women are catty and can't control their emotions" Yeah, that's not an argument for female inferiority...
/r/MensRights03/05/15 02:23 PM
-11

this is just an argument for male superiority...not men's rights.
/r/MensRights03/05/15 05:47 AM
3

Who the fuck is Alice Eve?
/r/MensRights29/04/15 07:54 PM
-18

It's certainly good enough for everyone here!
/r/MensRights25/04/15 06:09 AM
4

arguable You get a gym space free of women that hate men. That's nice.
/r/MensRights24/04/15 02:26 AM
1

you did a pretty bad job in this case, friend.
/r/MensRights24/04/15 02:24 AM
1

??
/r/MensRights24/04/15 02:21 AM
1

It would be really helpful if, rather than trying to argue that men have every little thing worse in every instance (or that women do) we just acknowledged the problems our genders faced and worked on fixing them. The winner of the victim olympics doesn't get anything.
/r/MensRights22/04/15 02:33 PM
1

Sounds like she was raped, too.
/r/MensRights16/04/15 06:29 PM
7

I'm going to guess that Malawi has a bunch of fucked up laws on its books. http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/03/06/malawi-end-widespread-child-marriage http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Malawi It's a backwards impoverished nation still following tribal customs.
/r/MensRights15/04/15 06:59 PM
1

yes
/r/MensRights14/04/15 08:45 PM
1

Next you are gonna tell me the college republicans had speakers that were really conservative
/r/MensRights11/04/15 05:03 PM
-1

This is a quote from the boys lawyer. I trust it as much as a statement from any other defense lawyer.
/r/MensRights11/04/15 04:13 AM
4

Why is this the format for these issue videos? The robot voice shit is so fucking weird.
/r/MensRights05/04/15 07:34 PM
1

that's for identifying people. I think that witnesses can more easily distinguish between "that guy was choking her" and "that guy never touched her" than between "That guy that's 5'11" and "That guy that's 5'9" and actually did it"
/r/MensRights02/04/15 09:59 PM
2

Yeah. I mean, if there were other witnesses....
/r/MensRights02/04/15 08:29 PM
-6

I'm super glad we have an experienced criminal investigator like youtube video weirdo and Anita Sarkeesian superfan Thunderfoot to resolve this issue for us once and for all.
/r/MensRights30/03/15 04:10 PM
9

cosmo is garbage in general and most thoughtful people, feminists included, will agree with that.
/r/MensRights21/03/15 06:16 PM
8

there's basically no content, and it seems to be pointing to a point of view of "men are superior to women" that shit isn't needed here.
/r/MensRights21/03/15 04:23 PM
6

1) people are idiotic jerks 2) some women do say "I'm a lesbian" to get guys to leave them alone. 3) A lot of guys can't be fucked to read your dating profile because their "success rate" is like 0% so they need to contact large numbers of women in order to get a response, so they probably didn't even read the "I'm a lesbian" thing, just looked at your picture and sent you the same form message they sent to three dozen other women that day. 4) Lots of people don't really understand sexuality and…
/r/MensRights20/03/15 11:16 PM
1

its not ok and generally considered highly racist, including by sjws
/r/MensRights05/03/15 05:54 AM
8

but the story was so TRUTHY
/r/MensRights01/03/15 07:15 PM
2

edicate
/r/MensRights27/02/15 05:03 PM
-1

The toxic and insanely hostile part of the mrm...
/r/MensRights27/02/15 04:59 PM
2

Project for a New American Century is basically the textbook definition of Neoconservativism. It's literally the term created to apply to them.
/r/MensRights27/02/15 01:14 AM
4

This group is not very socially liberal. There's a lot of liberal-hating that goes on in this subreddit.
/r/MensRights27/02/15 01:13 AM
1

In his memoir, Kyle reportedly described killing as “fun”, something he “loved”; he was unwavering in his belief that everyone he shot was a “bad guy”. “I hate the damn savages,” he wrote. “I couldn’t give a flying fuck about the Iraqis.” He bragged about murdering looters during Hurricane Katrina, though that was never substantiated. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/06/real-american-sniper-hate-filled-killer-why-patriots-calling-hero-chris-kyle
/r/MensRights26/02/15 08:20 PM
1

Kyle was a psycho, or at least wanted to portray himself as one. Not surprising that people that are friends with him are assholes.
/r/MensRights26/02/15 08:44 AM
1

where do you find this stuff? do you follow her on twitter?
/r/MensRights20/02/15 04:59 AM
1

So are we just hanging on her every word now, because she's decided to try to climb to the top of victim mountain? Or what?
/r/MensRights20/02/15 04:44 AM
0

I didn't. ur move
/r/MensRights20/02/15 04:42 AM
2

NO MORE ANITA
/r/MensRights19/02/15 08:32 PM
2

You're reading Glamour magazine for insightful social commentary?
/r/MensRights19/02/15 08:28 PM
4

Who the fuck is this asshole?
/r/MensRights19/02/15 07:10 PM
-2

That's the victim olympics though. It's possible for both Immigrant workers AND women to have it bad. This isn't just "some internet document," it's a document produced by a respected human rights organization.
/r/MensRights19/02/15 06:43 PM
1

You should really stop paying attention to Jezebel. I can post "Jezebel is stupid trash" on my facebook and get lots of likes from hard-core feminists.
/r/MensRights19/02/15 06:42 AM
2

I'm sure that teenage males get beaten by police more, since women can't leave home.
/r/MensRights19/02/15 06:24 AM
1

well yes. But what does that mean?
/r/MensRights19/02/15 05:42 AM
3

It's not slut-shaming to yell at someone for cheating. I'm glad the comments on the thread are somewhat reasonable though.
/r/MensRights19/02/15 05:41 AM
3

Saudi women are literally not allowed to drive cars or travel alone. It's really hard for me to believe that they aren't living in medieval level repression. The "women are super protected" idea is used to justify repression. It's literally the same argument that was made for why women shouldn't be able to vote in the US. Here's some documentation about what goes on in Saudi. http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/saudiarabia0408_1.pdf
/r/MensRights19/02/15 05:13 AM
-1

posting negative shit about India is super popular in this subreddit now too. Seems like there's a lot of crazy stuff going down there.
/r/MensRights19/02/15 05:10 AM
5

Never go against the biggest gang in America.
/r/MensRights19/02/15 03:10 AM
4

This is the kind of content we SHOULD be having here. Thanks for posting.
/r/MensRights19/02/15 03:03 AM
-3

Wikipedia says "he had X, doctors recommended circumcision as treatment for X" Maybe you disagree with what doctors recommended, but I still think it's a different story than it would have been if it was just "baby born, time to cut off some of its penis" as usual.
/r/MensRights15/02/15 06:34 PM
-9

Seems like the circumcision was medically needed in this case, rather than just done because of tradition.
/r/MensRights15/02/15 04:57 PM
7

Thank you.
/r/MensRights14/02/15 10:15 PM
4

Actually most of the buzz ive seen from feminist sites is about how the movie doesnt feature proper consent and boundaries, and isnt about a sexy bsdm relationship, but instead is controlling and abusive.
/r/MensRights14/02/15 09:48 PM
13

You dont have a great record on human rights in general, emperor.
/r/MensRights14/02/15 09:43 PM
1

you are nice.
/r/MensRights14/02/15 08:13 AM
2

You are correct. Men have real issues and are mistreated by society in a lot of ways. This subreddit spends some time talking about that. They also spend a lot of time finding specific bad actions by bad women, throwing around pointless accusations, and just generally being reactionary to whatever the gender wars issue du jour is.
/r/MensRights14/02/15 05:58 AM
1

shitpost
/r/MensRights14/02/15 05:52 AM
1

The fuck is going on here? Anyone have a news article about this?
/r/MensRights13/02/15 10:16 PM
2

please no buzzfeed
/r/MensRights13/02/15 03:39 AM
1

is was so truthy though
/r/MensRights13/02/15 03:38 AM
7

who knows how they're defining anything, or measuring anything here. It's just good that men-as-victims is getting some level of attention.
/r/MensRights13/02/15 03:37 AM
1

Wrong subreddit bro.
/r/MensRights12/02/15 09:50 PM
3

Probably not. People think Men's Rights is about sending women back to the kitchen or something. So we want to bitch about a feminism club? Or bitch about hypothetical treatment of a hypothetical men's rights club? Or convince someone at the school to start a men's rights club? What is going on here?
/r/MensRights12/02/15 09:21 PM
2

What's your point? Feminism is a thing. They can have clubs, even if you disagree with them. Form your own club that disagrees with them. Or form your own club for something actually important.
/r/MensRights12/02/15 09:13 PM
1

Lets just make up stories.
/r/MensRights11/02/15 05:48 PM
0

No
/r/MensRights11/02/15 05:45 PM
2

Dworkin is not widely taught at all.
/r/MensRights11/02/15 06:04 AM
101

I like the first one. "I'm afraid of all men" Ok, don't go outside, or move to a commune.
/r/MensRights11/02/15 05:51 AM
2

A nice reminder that Saudi is a terrible place for all sorts of people.
/r/MensRights10/02/15 10:39 PM
3

see: Anita Sarkeesian
/r/MensRights10/02/15 10:38 PM
1

Why do people not take it as seriously? Because it doesn't get as much advertising and attention. If all you have to go on is a gut feeling based on what you've been incidentally exposed to on tv, you think it's not a big issue because you rarely hear about it.
/r/MensRights10/02/15 06:49 PM
5

Lots of fucked up news coming out of India these days. For people interested in what the hell is going on in India, I recommend this book: http://www.amazon.com/Behind-Beautiful-Forevers-Mumbai-Undercity/dp/081297932X
/r/MensRights10/02/15 05:08 AM
11

We would. We should extend the same logic here.
/r/MensRights10/02/15 05:06 AM
1

One quibble: it's safe to say that no grand jury in the land would indict him This isn't true. Although the procedure varies from state to state, in many states the grand jury is non-adversarial. That is, the only person that gets to present their case is the prosecutor, and there is no requirement to look at any evidence from the other side. It's basically a hurdle to clear to demonstrate that you might actually have a case (what you accuse them of doing is in fact illegal) and that you have so…
/r/MensRights10/02/15 04:52 AM
-1

While creating that thread is obviously a sad, self-obsessed, self-pitying thing to do, it's not self-evidently a failed sock puppet attempt. She could just be trying to start abuse towards herself (which obviously will work, since it's gotten enough of a reaction out of you to post it here). She could also try to play it off as "I know I'm going to get hate, so I tried to have it all contained there".
/r/MensRights09/02/15 08:30 PM
4

Uhm, the US government actively subsidizes marriage. So there are definitely privileges that attach to marriage.
/r/MensRights09/02/15 09:13 AM
7

Do you see the difference between "I want an abortion, this child is the product of a rape." and not going to the police or accusing anyone of that rape and "X raped me, police please arrest him." ?
/r/MensRights08/02/15 07:11 AM
3

The baby did grow up. The case took more than 9 months to litigate. What you're saying is a pretty big stretch, honestly.
/r/MensRights08/02/15 06:59 AM
5

But a source close to the process told ESPN's Marc Stein that the NBA, after its review, does not regard Paul's comments ‎to be gender-based and issued the fine based on his public criticism. Moving on.
/r/MensRights08/02/15 06:55 AM
2

According to her wikipedia, shes a "former" lesbian, now that she is a catholic or evangelical or whatever.
/r/MensRights08/02/15 05:42 AM
5

Correct me if im wrong. She didnt accuse anyone, she just claimed to have been raped because the only way to legally get an abortion at the time is for rape. Thats understandable, to me.
/r/MensRights08/02/15 05:34 AM
0

When you try to advocate for the rights of your gender, are you often dismissed as uneducated, abusive or misogynist They probably are. I mean, this board spends like 70% of its energy bashing feminism.
/r/MensRights07/02/15 09:54 PM
2

it probably happens in some cases. like how an abused child might still cry when taken away from their abusive parent. Acting like it's categorically impossible and dispositive proof that nothing happened is silly. Acting like it's not cause to DOUBT a story is sillier.
/r/MensRights07/02/15 09:39 PM
3

Treat rape as a crime. If it's hard to report rape because police don't treat you right, FIX THAT, don't make it "ok and understandable" not to report it. Most rapes are committed by serial rapists that coast by on people not reporting and reports not being believed. If we can just make it so that rape is properly prosecuted and encourage women to report to the fucking police, we could dramatically reduce rape. Lets do that.
/r/MensRights07/02/15 09:21 PM
-3

K. Go ahead criticizing feminists for being trans exclusive, when most of them you meet would strongly disagree with the statements of the feminist quoted in this article.
/r/MensRights05/02/15 09:09 AM
-3

This is a really huge generalization. I realize that it's easiest to just say anything a woman (or liberal man) does that people here don't like is easy to blame on "feminism", but treatment of trans people really varies among different sects of feminism. It is by no means a monolithic organization. It's the same as ascribing behavior of redpillers to mensrightsers.
/r/MensRights05/02/15 06:35 AM
0

and now I have edited my comment. VICTORY IS MINE
/r/MensRights05/02/15 06:22 AM
1

The fuck is going on here
/r/MensRights04/02/15 11:00 PM
1

I thought college disciplinary panels were kangaroo courts whose results are not to be trusted? Or is that only when they find someone actually did commit a rape?
/r/MensRights04/02/15 09:55 PM
-4

radical feminist I don't think this phrase means what you think it means.
/r/MensRights04/02/15 09:54 PM
5

Isn't it innocent until proven guilty? Just like cosby? How can we say she's a false accuser without a trial?
/r/MensRights04/02/15 09:53 PM
2

Yes, but it's not like men aren't already represented, and a big part of the whole trans thing is that they should have the same rights as other women. It'd be the same as "no jews".
/r/MensRights04/02/15 09:51 PM
10

anything we don't like relating to women is feminism now?
/r/MensRights04/02/15 09:48 PM
0

Dude where did this come from? It's such a piece of shit.
/r/MensRights04/02/15 09:48 PM
6

In some ways, yes. In some ways, no. It's totally pointless to compete in the Victim Olympics. If men have it worse than women, do they have it worse than black people? If black people have it worse, are they better off than gays? Who has it worse between gays and transsexuals? I mean, why does it even matter? Are we trying to figure out who has it absolutely worse so that we can only help that one group and nobody else? Waste of fucking time. If a group, ANY GROUP, even the luckiest group on th…
/r/MensRights04/02/15 07:39 AM
-9

Not sure why you are being downvoted 1) I'm not waving the "everyone accuse of rape is innocent, free cosby!" flag hard enough. 2) I was rude to someone that was being inane and I got downvotes up the chain for it.
/r/MensRights04/02/15 07:22 AM
0

It's not harassment if it's a circlejerk. This subreddit will be fine.
/r/MensRights04/02/15 07:19 AM
1

you should edit this info into the main post
/r/MensRights04/02/15 02:06 AM
1

It's inane garbage from a country with a lot of backwards ideas. It's sad and shouldn't exist.
/r/MensRights04/02/15 02:03 AM
6

If dude is going to the media and trying to fight back, he should do what she should have done, and actually have this adjudicated in a court of law. If he didn't do anything to her, he NEEDS to sue her. This kid will NEVER get hired by anyone that googles his name unless he gets this sorted in an actual court.
/r/MensRights04/02/15 01:58 AM
3

He's in a bad spot. The way he responded to that bad spot is completely inappropriate. What sort of discussion are you looking for here?
/r/MensRights04/02/15 01:20 AM
-31

it was a serious question because you're an argumentative retard. Go away.
/r/MensRights04/02/15 12:10 AM
-24

no I'm a complete sociopath.
/r/MensRights04/02/15 12:05 AM
4

it's bear one bears a child. Unless you're stripping it nude. then you bare it, I guess.
/r/MensRights03/02/15 10:59 PM
-2

On TwoX male partners are routinely seen as easily replaceable commodities like shampoo bottles rather than people I really don't see this. I read it regularly. It's a pretty reasonable/thoghtful place on average.
/r/MensRights03/02/15 10:46 PM
-3

DAE hate it how men are never featured in yogurt commercials? Today a woman, who didn't speak, but I will assume is a feminist, cut me off in traffic. Look at this argument I had with a 15 year old girl on facebook.
/r/MensRights03/02/15 10:43 PM
0

but but but the best way to get a lot of upvotes is just posting whatever crap Anita Sarkeesian produced and having a circle-jerk hate thread about her!
/r/MensRights03/02/15 10:42 PM
2

If that's your belief, you shouldn't really have a problem having the child, even if the man isn't going to support it. Abandon the child at the local fire station if you cannot take care of it but you feel morally obligated to bring it into the world. If the man feels the same way, he can help you along.
/r/MensRights03/02/15 10:33 PM
-16

I trust his comments and the results of a bullshit college investigation as much as I trust her comments and the results of a bullshit college investigation. This is a farce without actual professionals investigating this shit. Rape is a serious crime and should be handled by the police and legal system, not colleges, precisely to avoid this kind of horseshit. Send rapists to jail. That's the solution to rape.
/r/MensRights03/02/15 10:29 PM
4

I don't know how opt out could be make to be just to women "I get to decide how this affects me and what responsibilities I'm willing to take on. You get to decide how it will affect you and what responsibilities you will take on." That's fair.
/r/MensRights03/02/15 10:12 PM
2

No, they got this guy because he was running multiple scams through his revenge porn site. Impersonating other people to get more pictures, offering a fake "picture take down" service to extract money from the people whose pictures he had up, etc. That's why he went down.
/r/MensRights03/02/15 09:57 PM
-14

Staaahhhhhhp
/r/MensRights01/02/15 04:47 PM
4

Now that is rape culture.
/r/MensRights30/01/15 08:09 AM
1

no kidding
/r/MensRights30/01/15 05:22 AM
3

I believe your anecdata matches the actual statistics. Women are more likely to get into an accident, men are more likely to get into a SPECTACULAR accident.
/r/MensRights23/01/15 09:59 PM
3

Or maybe police should prioritize serving and protecting the people, and accept more personal risk, instead of trampling everything else in the name of protecting themselves. If they don't like the risks, they can do a different job.
/r/MensRights20/01/15 10:14 PM
5

he's black maybe his court fees. maybe.
/r/MensRights20/01/15 10:09 PM
3

This woman is pathetic.
/r/MensRights18/01/15 04:17 AM
-11

Or maybe he drugged and raped a good number of people.
/r/MensRights17/01/15 08:01 PM
-15

Cosby's Lawyer Says Cosby is innocent. CASE CLOSED! JUSTICE!
/r/MensRights17/01/15 08:01 PM
-1

This is false. She has received the bulk of her fame and attention because of negative attention heaped on her.
/r/MensRights17/01/15 07:49 PM
15

STOP GIVING THIS WOMAN ATTENTION She gets at least as many views from people that hate her as people that like what she has to say, and she can't get by on actually making worthwhile points to the audience that likes her. She has to troll for attention/views from the "other side". She's Ann Coulter.
/r/MensRights16/01/15 11:46 PM
0

not really censorship. This isn't "you wanted to do X, but we don'tlike what it says, so we're not going to let you do it." It's "We were going to do X, but decided not to."
/r/MensRights16/01/15 07:09 PM
1

I agree. and if nobody steps up and does one, it's not like you excluded them. You gave trans folks an opportunity to be heard, and they didn't take it.
/r/MensRights16/01/15 07:08 PM
0

This is reasonable...ish.
/r/MensRights16/01/15 07:06 PM
0

FGM is performed only on consenting teenagers. on what planet?
/r/MensRights16/01/15 04:21 AM
9

44 year old teachers shouldn't be fucking their 16 year old students, and should go to jail if they do.
/r/MensRights15/01/15 06:19 PM
2

So wait, do were wait for a trial and everyone is presumed innocent until then, but then if we don't like the result, we declare it invalid? How does this work.
/r/MensRights14/01/15 09:38 PM
1

nce title, buzzfeed
/r/MensRights12/01/15 05:26 PM
1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvx0m2SeOSk Okay I'm not really arguing with you. Men are portrayed as having infinite agency, even in victimhood, in general.
/r/MensRights12/01/15 03:02 AM
8

In fairness it looks like the kid is threatening and manipulating her. A rape victim can be the bad guy if they are the bad guy.
/r/MensRights11/01/15 05:21 PM
5

dammit, I hate trick questions.
/r/MensRights11/01/15 06:48 AM
6

is the answer rape?
/r/MensRights11/01/15 05:45 AM
2

who the fuck is Tanya Cohen
/r/MensRights10/01/15 06:30 PM
19

When someone "Teaches you not to rape"(tm) please post your course syllabus here. I'd be curious about the method of instruction.
/r/MensRights10/01/15 06:26 PM
2

Exactly, if people of ethnic origins that are less likely to develop autism (hispanics and blacks are apparently less likely to develop autism, according to 20 seconds of google research) are the same groups that are less likely to get circumcision, etc. It doesn't matter if there is no link. Children shouldn't be circumcised because it's not medically necessary and they should have a choice when they are mature adults.
/r/MensRights09/01/15 11:20 PM
34

they make shitty pop music?
/r/MensRights09/01/15 09:09 PM
14

WHY DID THEY MAKE HIS HANDS BIGGER?
/r/MensRights09/01/15 09:02 PM
0

My actual expectations from this society are quite low, since I know how fucking stupid it is in general. My hopes would be that people could objectively decide that if 30 people say you did something, chances are VERY HIGH that you did it. Similarly to how, despite it never being proven in court, we can say Jamie Leigh Jones almost certainly lied about being raped. Furthermore I would HOPE that people would understand "Innocent until proven guilty" is a legal concept, not a life philosophy. Whe…
/r/MensRights09/01/15 07:24 PM
0

that doesn't seem to be what it's about though. What it seems to be about, at this point, is "Cosby is innocent, support him, attack his accusers."
/r/MensRights09/01/15 06:12 PM
10

Its pretty sad that this subreddit has hitched its wagon to cosby like this. I dont think it will work out well in the end.
/r/MensRights09/01/15 05:53 PM
-2

this title is very misleading
/r/MensRights09/01/15 05:13 AM
6

lol wtf
/r/MensRights08/01/15 11:36 PM
2

To throw 50 years of work and a longstanding, unimpeachable legacy away is a crime in itself. I also find it hard to believe a man like Cosby--- read, one of the most FAMOUS men on the planet, with hundreds of millions of dollars, has to rape any woman to have sex with them. This isn't very logical. Yes, a man like cosby could definitely find fans to have sex with. However it doesn't mean that he wouldn't have had to resort to rape if he really wanted to have sex with some women that weren't int…
/r/MensRights08/01/15 08:50 AM
1

Because a conviction rate that's right in line with every other violent crime Do you have a citation for this? I"m not questioning it, but I'd like to have a good source so I could back up the claim.
/r/MensRights08/01/15 08:37 AM
1

It really seems to me that some feminists, particularly those whose livelihood is based on the movement, don't want rape to decrease. They're in this strange headspace where they want more attention brought to rape as an issue, but are trying to accomplish that by fighting against policies that will actually reduce rape. It's so damn weird. Why else would anyone oppose reporting rapists to the police? It's not that they don't want it to decrease, it's just that their cause is politicized. It's j…
/r/MensRights08/01/15 08:12 AM
3

That old woman's name? Albert Einstein
/r/MensRights23/12/14 12:00 AM
0

wait are you quoting ANN FUCKING COULTER, PROFESSIONAL TROLL approvingly? get this shit out of my eyesight.
/r/MensRights19/12/14 09:52 PM
4

That's interesting. Usually these HIV laws are used to go after gay men, the same way sodomy laws were used to remind them that "you are scum in our eyes".
/r/MensRights18/12/14 07:35 PM
1

follow suite
/r/MensRights17/12/14 07:48 PM
1

everywhere except in sworn depositions under oath This is factually inaccurate. Many of the women accusing Cosby were willing to go on the record in sworn depositions under oath when there was an actual court case taking depositions. That's how most of this got started. Cosby settled the suit with the person filing it, so it went away.
/r/MensRights17/12/14 07:43 PM
0

Yes I read the article, and I attended actual law school. Every law school is required to cover certain topics in introductory mandatory courses. For example, constitutional law is usually a one-semester course. Do you think all of the nuances of constitutional law can actually be covered in a dozen weeks? No. These courses are general overview courses that talk about how to approach legal issues of different types. Furthermore, you cannot just "learn the law" if you're at a national level law s…
/r/MensRights17/12/14 05:01 PM
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no, libel is much more nuanced, with more complicated elements. There are affirmative defenses, it has crossover with invasion of privacy offenses. Rape is just "did you have sex, was there consent"?
/r/MensRights17/12/14 04:53 PM
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no, from a black letter law perspective. The elements of rape are very basic. The complications come from the evidence issues, which are beyond the scope of the basic criminal law course.
/r/MensRights17/12/14 06:51 AM
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Rape law is also not very important from a law school perspective. My criminal law teacher was EXTREMELY insensitive to students, but he glossed over rape law in about one sentence. There's not really nuanced legal issues. You either have consent or you don't. EVIDENCE gets really complicated, but that's a trial practice thing, not a black letter criminal law thing.
/r/MensRights17/12/14 04:27 AM
3

The frat should sue her. It's the only way this is going to get legitimately sorted out.
/r/MensRights16/12/14 02:17 AM
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I don't know how many men here would agree with the implications here. If more men are outliers, then men probably are more likely to be violent murderers than women, etc, and the "men are a bigger threat than women" idea is not very popular here.
/r/MensRights15/12/14 12:29 AM
1

accusations, innocent until proven guilty, blah blah blah right?
/r/MensRights09/12/14 03:21 AM
1

false. http://www.vulture.com/2014/09/timeline-of-the-abuse-charges-against-cosby.html
/r/MensRights05/12/14 08:32 PM
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It's sad. There probably IS shitty handling of sexual assaults on campus, because it's not something universities should be "handling". But now the story is just going to be about how the story was bullshit, because they didn't do decent reporting.
/r/MensRights05/12/14 08:27 PM
0

I don't think the stories are suspiciously similar, and these accusations have floated around, from different women, for years. Just because you only heard about it now doesn't mean they all came out at the same time recently.
/r/MensRights05/12/14 08:22 PM
4

This is a good idea for the US. Just make that amount of time available to men too. People in this country are currently working themselves to death and could use more time off.
/r/MensRights05/12/14 06:16 PM
0

The suit is likely more for PR purposes than anything. It gives people that desperately want to not believe the charges against him something to hang on to. Even if one woman was attempting to extort him, there's still more than twenty other accusers, so it wouldn't change anything or prove his general innocence, just give people something to hang on to.
/r/MensRights05/12/14 06:15 PM
2

For the record, clinton was accused of various types of sexual improprieties by several women.
/r/MensRights04/12/14 02:13 AM
2

What sort of evidence would you like for someone being inappropriately touched?
/r/MensRights03/12/14 09:00 PM
1

I don't think you're right on the "two years" as a universal statute of limitations, for one.
/r/MensRights03/12/14 08:24 PM
2

the law is there for things like asbestos. Maybe you get exposed to it as a teen or whatever, and then in your 50's you develop a really rare form of cancer (there are cancers that humans basically don't get unless exposed to certain chemicals). Boom, now you know you were exposed to something, and you have the damage from the disease, and a lawsuit.
/r/MensRights03/12/14 08:23 PM
2

reactionary: of, pertaining to, marked by, or favoring reaction, especially extreme conservatism or rightism in politics; opposing political or social change That definitely fits much of what goes on here. "MORE LIBERAL FEMINISTS OUT TO GET US"
/r/MensRights03/12/14 01:02 AM
1

Allegations of sexual misconduct is very subjective. They can be. I don't think anyone would reasonably argue that it's open to interpretation whether what Cosby is accused of doing (secretly drugging women and having sex with them while they are unconscious) is wrong, if he did it.
/r/MensRights24/11/14 08:54 PM
2

no, at least none that I know. I only watch LoL streams, which are almost universally people on professional teams or top-tier players, with only a few "personality" streams, or hot/cute girls that basically only get any viewers because girl. The only person to break this mold was Hafu, a former warcraft pro that was a top-level player in LoL but also an attractive female. Someone leaked her nudes and she received constant abuse about it. Some of the male players that are famous for being insane…
/r/MensRights15/11/14 11:29 PM
3

lazy image memes making fun of feminists.
/r/MensRights15/11/14 08:22 PM
2

Or called fat and ugly. :-( leave scarra alone!
/r/MensRights15/11/14 06:16 PM
1

The female streamers also get a minority of haters calling them sluts, referencing their nudes, telling them to show tits, etc. People looking for victims choose to ignore the fact that they are making a lot of money without being exceptional, and focus on the negative shit.
/r/MensRights15/11/14 05:53 PM
0

I'm just glad conservatives have organizations like the ACLU
/r/MensRights15/11/14 04:19 PM
-2

because movements need an enemy
/r/MensRights15/11/14 09:07 AM
3

This subreddit in general has gone in a pretty shitty direction. I mostly just care about mens issues, and things that men need. Prison reform, mental health, homelessness, due process in sex crime cases, not being held to damaging gender roles. I don't really give a shit about a war on feminism or constantly finding conspiracy theories in every rape allegation. This subreddit has just gotten extremely negative and less thoughtful in the past year or so.
/r/MensRights15/11/14 09:04 AM
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This smells like bait to me. I don't think it's real. That said, what's good (or bad) for the goose, is good (or bad) for the gander.
/r/MensRights15/11/14 08:57 AM
8

It's pretty normal. People wear pants in the US. If someone is in a thong, you're going to feel like their ass is right there about to touch you. It's also just uncomfortable when people strongly violate social norms. This is probably how people in Afghanistan feel when they see a woman in shorts and a tank top or something. Plus there's the whole "Someone hot is wearing something very revealing and I want to look, but if I stare I'm a creep....AWKWARD...just pretend to be dead."
/r/MensRights15/11/14 06:00 AM
-1

There's plenty of white NFL players that do dirty shit and get a pass, too. I don't think "killing people because you're irresponsible is bad and should have serious consequences" is exactly "such a high moral standard"
/r/MensRights14/11/14 10:50 PM
-1

signing him right back and giving him a million dollars says it's no big deal that he did that. It's not like he's the first person in the NFL to have done this either. This is a big problem they have with their players. http://thebiglead.com/2014/05/30/the-nfl-has-a-sustained-pervasive-drunk-driving-problem/
/r/MensRights14/11/14 09:57 PM
0

Mental health is not a can of worms the NFL can afford to open. Do you have any idea what post-game life looks like for NFL linemen, specifically the results of the regular head trauma? Lets just say, the results are very, very sad.
/r/MensRights14/11/14 09:05 PM
-1

Yes, I think employers should. I don't think a bank should hire someone that has carried out numerous frauds after he gets out of jail, because he's "done his time". It makes me not trust the bank if they hire someone like that. I think you have a legal right to be in the KKK, say horrible things about gay people, and be a general anti-social awful person. I don't think the government should punish you for that. However, I think that a kindergarten should not hire to you to teach if you are such…
/r/MensRights14/11/14 09:03 PM
0

If you killed one of your co-workers, would you expect to have a job? http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/headlines/20141111-cowboys-activate-josh-brent-months-after-intoxication-manslaughter-conviction.ece
/r/MensRights14/11/14 04:51 PM
2

Because she got a lot of attention/death threats for gamergate. Notice none of that is "because she put out some video people really liked but was wrong, and needs to be disproven." When was the last time anyone said anything positive about a specific part of anything she did and not just "We need to save anita from the bad men!"
/r/MensRights14/11/14 05:47 AM
1

I hope to god this shit doesn't get upvoted. This subreddit shouldn't be worldstar of violence against women.
/r/MensRights13/11/14 08:24 PM
-1

translation: "I look for excuses to condone violence against women and enjoy it when the violence feels justified." Even if every clip is justified self-defense (some of them are just people fighting like animals) reveling in it is disturbing. These are sad situations, not wins for men's rights.
/r/MensRights13/11/14 08:24 PM
2

plea deals happen because we arrest and incarcerate more people than we can give "a fair trial". a huge amount of the time we just get people to plea to lower offenses in exchange for not having to prove anything against them and not clogging up the system.
/r/MensRights13/11/14 08:21 PM
4

Stop paying any attention to this woman. Her career is built on a foundation of negative attention. If she is ignored by people that dislike her nobody will give two shits about her, because she has no fanbase for the content she produces. She only has a fanbase of people that "support her against her attackers".
/r/MensRights13/11/14 07:31 PM
1

Time is just going negative to bait clicks. They can't carry the same stories as Jezebel etc, because those sites are already established as "feminism webpage" so they just go negative and get linked to in outrage pieces. That's all that it is. That's why feminism is on this list, so people rage out and link to their poll and talk about it.
/r/MensRights13/11/14 05:17 PM
3

apparently bigotry against homosexuals is over, they've "gotten almost everything they want" lol.
/r/MensRights13/11/14 05:00 PM
1

Guy's an asshole, it's fine for people not to want assholes to promote assholery.
/r/MensRights11/11/14 07:52 PM
1

Wat
/r/MensRights09/11/14 07:26 PM
5

yes
/r/MensRights07/11/14 05:41 PM
1

What this means is that women who succeed in the company but don't act like the men who succeed aren't seen as "successful". Because success is Dave that, if he sells three cars a day takes the boys out drinking. Whereas Susan sold three cars and then brought muffins the next day. Steve is seen as a "team player" and a "good salesman" but Susan isn't. Just like how if Susan is a kindergarten teacher and hugs a student that fell on the playground she's seen as "caring and nurturing" but if Steve …
/r/MensRights07/11/14 05:04 PM
2

instead he's just a chickenhawk.
/r/MensRights05/11/14 06:03 PM
2

Krauthammer is basically wrong all the time, so I guess the "War on Women" is going strong.
/r/MensRights05/11/14 05:29 PM
0

This is what this subreddit has become.
/r/MensRights05/11/14 05:27 PM
1

this article is fucking terrible. It's just an "anti-leftist" screed, not really much to do with men's rights.
/r/MensRights05/11/14 03:19 AM
2

this advice is probably for a different socioeconomic strata. I bet you the type of person OP is talking about wants to meet as few of your friends/family as possible, our of fear that "you can't fool everyone all of the time".
/r/MensRights02/11/14 12:31 AM
2

How did you come by this storehouse of sad knowledge?
/r/MensRights02/11/14 12:30 AM
3

this sounds pretty reasonable. They're also not "coming out against using the term rape culture". They're just adopting a reasonable approach to the crime of rape: put it in the hands of criminal justice authorities and prosecute the small minority of people that are criminals carrying out the criminal act.
/r/MensRights02/11/14 12:19 AM
4

a prosecutor is a lawyer
/r/MensRights31/10/14 10:03 PM
-9

I'm just calling this subreddit out for pretending to be all "logical and reasonable" but actually just engaging in doublethink whenever the logical rules they invent don't come out in their favor. I care a lot about men's issues, but there's a lot of mindless defense of any man and attacking of any woman that goes on here, and it's embarrassing and shitty.
/r/MensRights31/10/14 06:48 PM
-3

Sounds like shitty lawyering is the problem here, more than a representation of the systematic harshness towards men of legal systems.
/r/MensRights31/10/14 06:15 PM
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the allegation was "proved" in court. We accept the results of court ruings, right? I mean the whole thing is we wait for men, regardless of accusations or their credibility, to have the accusations adjudicated, and then we accept that result. Isn't that what this subreddit is always asking for? Or is the policy "innocent until proven guilty, and if proven guilty then we decide whether we actually like that outcome, and maybe reject that verdict, too?" I.e. only turn to the "court of public opin…
/r/MensRights31/10/14 06:14 PM
-9

dey took r jerbs?
/r/MensRights31/10/14 06:01 PM
7

DON'T GIVE HER MORE ATTENTION
/r/MensRights31/10/14 05:14 AM
-1

Yes it's harassment. Bieber should stay indoors where nobody is subjected to his existence.
/r/MensRights30/10/14 11:25 PM
-7

you're kind of an idiot.
/r/MensRights30/10/14 10:14 PM
3

he was pacing her exactly after talking to her. highly unlikely. I"m comparing the logic.
/r/MensRights30/10/14 08:48 PM
1

what is your definition of harassment that someone doing something that is annoying as fuck that they know is annoying as fuck is not harassment?
/r/MensRights30/10/14 08:02 PM
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This doesn't prove anything. If someone walked around for 10 hours and 10 minutes of it was spent with 100 different people yelling ethnic slurs at them, would that mean racism isn't an issue? The issue with street harassment is that a few assholes can make people feel shitty, even if 99% of people are polite. Also you're ignoring the 5 minute guy in your calculations. So good try, but no cigar.
/r/MensRights30/10/14 08:00 PM
1

I'd be okay with that. Apple it to all genders (man hits man, woman hits man, woman hits alien). People shouldn't go around attacking each other. Besides we'll need some way to stuff jails once we do away with the drug war.
/r/MensRights30/10/14 01:53 AM
1

Because having sex requires the decision of both people. Meaning someone that is sober enough to make a decision could take advantage of someone who is too drunk to. Kind of like how drunk people can still be robbed, even if they're blacked out irresponsibly. I don't think anyone that has trouble understanding this actually thought about it, and is instead just looking for a simple bumper sticker truism.
/r/MensRights29/10/14 05:32 PM
2

don't post this shit. If you don't like her, ignore her. The woman has nothing wortwhile to say and only gets exposure because she generates controversy. If she has to get by just on actually producing interesting content, she will disappear. Most of the people that support her don't give a shit about what she has to say, they just don't like seeing her "victimized".
/r/MensRights29/10/14 06:21 AM
8

Roy City Police and the Weber Metro SWAT Team tried to convince the man to surrender and get help but seven hours after the initial call, something dramatic occurred in the garage causing SWAT officers to open fire. "About 11:15 this morning that negotiation failed," Det. Gwynn said. "There was an officer involved shooting and that subject is deceased as a result." http://www.good4utah.com/story/d/story/roy-officer-involved-shooting-leaves-one-man-dead/37742/N0pdfarK5U6qhFdCJ5iguQ
/r/MensRights27/10/14 07:28 AM
3

he repeatedly uses "gay" as an insult in "rap god" I can't believe I"m even having to substantiate that Eminem says a lot of offensive shit. This board is retarded.
/r/MensRights25/10/14 10:55 PM
1

how about the one where he says "hate fags? the answer's yes"
/r/MensRights25/10/14 10:27 PM
1

have you looked at any of his lyrics?
/r/MensRights25/10/14 09:33 PM
0

Eminem is a good rapper. I'm not sure I want social commentary from him though. The guy is unhinged and says a lot of homophobic/sexist/hateful stuff.
/r/MensRights25/10/14 08:17 PM
2

The less we talk about Anita the better. She thrives on controversy. If she has to stand on her platform as a speaker, she'll flounder because what she says isn't that interesting. As long as she can hold herself out as a persecuted victim she'll keep getting attention and exposure.
/r/MensRights25/10/14 08:14 PM
2

If you're trying to avoid being bitter and angry, this subreddit isn't really a good place for you.
/r/MensRights22/10/14 12:30 AM
0

It sounds like she's pretty mentally unwell and that's the reason she's being handled with kid gloves. At least people actually thought about charging her. That's a baby step in the right direction.
/r/MensRights20/10/14 07:20 PM
-2

This response says all I need to know about you I guess.
/r/MensRights20/10/14 07:13 PM
0

This is a lot less harmful than insisting the boy stick to some "manly" role (protect women, don't cry, win fights), in my opinion.
/r/MensRights20/10/14 06:37 PM
3

Women have their gender roles less strictly policed. A boy in highschool could be beaten to death if he wears a dress, if a girl wears cargo pants, people might whisper that she's a lesbian. I mean, what is "mans" clothing? We have quite strictly defined clothing that is "for women only" but there is no male-clothing equivalent of the dress in the USA.
/r/MensRights20/10/14 06:34 PM
3

This article is the way I feel reading this sub in the last few months. Been lurking around here for a while, because I care about men's issues and have done work in that area, but lately it seems like an ever-growing proportion of the content here is just hating on women/feminists (and calling every woman you don't like a feminist). It seems very hard for some here to admit that a man has ever done something wrong, or a woman can ever be a victim, or that women can ever have it worse than men i…
/r/MensRights15/10/14 05:59 PM
3

this is such a non-point.
/r/MensRights12/10/14 11:35 PM
0

Mob justice is bad. Rape is bad. If this guy was caught trying to rape someone, he deserved this, even if it's not what SHOULD have been done.
/r/MensRights12/10/14 11:35 PM
2

If it's not sexism, then what explanation is there for it? That women just aren't as brilliant and hardworking as men? and it wouldn't have to be sexism solely on the nobel prize committee. It could be the sexist pressure for women to "settle down" and have a family instead of doing research, so female science graduates are less likely to work in intensive labs doing high-end research. It could be pressure keeping women out of science studies in the first place (STEM is massively male, of course…
/r/MensRights11/10/14 03:33 PM
-1

Wrong subreddit, pal.
/r/MensRights10/10/14 03:24 AM
1

in trollxchromosomes
/r/MensRights10/10/14 03:05 AM
0

2X is not the enemy. They are the people that should be convinced.
/r/MensRights10/10/14 02:59 AM
5

This is a really terribly written article. While I agree with the overall idea that hysterial feminism can infantilize women, the specific examples it uses are heavily distorted or inaccurate strawmen, or simply illogical. It's just dog-whistle preaching to the choir without any consideration of the actual views of "the other side".
/r/MensRights09/10/14 05:41 PM
1

you're saying women as a whole are less honest, intelligent, and logical than men? And you're getting upvotes? Who says MensRights Activists don't just dislike women!
/r/MensRights09/10/14 05:35 PM
2

India is a strange place.
/r/MensRights07/10/14 12:41 AM
-4

You might need help. TwoX is pretty mainstream woman stuff. It's not like it's r/srs or something. Sure they're not all mensrights-ish, but...yeah.
/r/MensRights02/10/14 12:14 AM
1

Ashe is an archer. http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/77/45/7745c5ddedf9b4c6d6ecca94efc3f9f9.jpg?itok=FjkAYwIG
/r/MensRights01/10/14 08:17 PM
2

it shows love for women's bodies, even when they're remarkable and achieving in ways other than being sexually attractive.
/r/MensRights01/10/14 06:58 PM
0

Yeah it's just lazy design, and there's some pretty good arguments that having all female characters (even the ones that are half-spiders etc) with giant boobs to appeal to male gamers is sexist. Of course there also aren't any fat or ugly male champions unless that is being played up for laughs, but whatever. They could also talk about how the characterization of the women is unnecessarily sexualized, how while the male characters are all about how they're gonig to fight and win fights and do v…
/r/MensRights30/09/14 07:17 PM
-1

The sad thing is there are still plenty of examples of actual sexism in videogames (If Dota2 chracter design is anything like league of legends, then virtually all the female characters are tiny-waisted and enormous-busted, and fight wearing ridiculous boob-exposing armor, etc) but instead these people have to fabricate MORE to make it more sensational, because complaining that the characters are all designed to look like a 14 year old's notebook sketch fantasies is cliche.
/r/MensRights30/09/14 06:48 PM
2

50k is a TINY amount for attorney fees, as well. You can get a lot more if you can show malfeasance in the conviction.
/r/MensRights30/09/14 05:37 PM
1

I'm just saying you can be a woman without ovaries (removed due to cancer) you can be a woman with XY chromosomes (genetic defect that causes you to be non-responsive to male hormones, so despite having them, your body develops as female) you can be a woman with a surgically created vagina (birth defects, etc). It's not always as simple to categorize people as you'd like to think.
/r/MensRights26/09/14 04:05 PM
1

What definition of "woman" are you using?
/r/MensRights26/09/14 06:04 AM
3

The advantages aren't really there. Being on hormone treatment is like being on anti-steroids. Fox is fighting inexperienced women, and is 5-1 against them. She got hammered out in a recent fight by a pretty undistinguished woman.
/r/MensRights25/09/14 06:32 PM
1

Is it news that Sarah Palin is completely moronic?
/r/MensRights22/09/14 05:34 AM
0

Some ridiculous shit gets posted to this subreddit. Ray Rice in no way felt threatened by this woman. He might have felt wronged when she slapped him, as she probably did when he spit in her face, but there's no way in hell he felt she was going to harm him. He got mad at her and fucking decked her, giving her a concussion and leaving her unconscious for a long-ass time. She doesn't have the right to slap him like that, but he doesn't have the right to respond by escalating the violence. If some…
/r/MensRights22/09/14 05:33 AM
3

I think it's generally the policy to keep minors (male AND female) anonymous.
/r/MensRights17/09/14 10:19 PM
1

What is normal in rough-and-tumble ozzstraya?
/r/MensRights17/09/14 09:31 PM
1

I believe the statistics show women are more likely to get into an accident, men are more likely to get into a serious accident, which is what drives premiums up. It's just like how women pay more for health insurance, because even though men are more accident-prone, women are more likely to get pregnant, which is a huge medical cost.
/r/MensRights16/09/14 05:35 PM
5

O'Reilly only has complete idiots represent opposing viewpoints on his shows, so his viewpoints look better and as if only complete idiots would oppose them.
/r/MensRights06/09/14 10:26 PM
6

Did you read the article? He could have been tried in military court even after the acquittal, but he was not. However, the air force did see fit to reprimand him. I think it's legitimate to say "if you feel that what he did was wrong, you should prosecute him".
/r/MensRights05/09/14 09:25 PM
1

In the criminal justice system, the women that are treated most harshly are lesbians and prostitutes.
/r/MensRights05/09/14 09:20 PM
-3

you need help
/r/MensRights05/09/14 09:19 PM
2

Plus one of the big complaints around here is the male-only draft. Seeing those ladies with guns makes me think drafting women too, if we needed it, would be a pretty damn good idea.
/r/MensRights05/09/14 04:30 PM
-4

She slapped him first so it's okay that he breaks her jaw and face. Is that the position you're taking here? Because it's idiotic.
/r/MensRights05/09/14 03:46 PM
2

Thank you for your high-minded discourse on important issues.
/r/MensRights01/09/14 06:31 AM
1

I think people are just tired of working up outrage over the content of rap music, which is very frequently awful. It takes something like Rick Ross bragging about using date rape drugs or something to raise an eyebrow at this point.
/r/MensRights01/09/14 06:31 AM
5

His story is an unfortunate circumstance, and far beyond "making eye contact". If the same thing had happened to me, as a male, I would have felt extremely uncomfortable too.
/r/MensRights30/08/14 09:03 PM
6

A large amount of the rage at Quinn isn't that she was sleeping around unethically, or even really related to ethics in gaming journalism (which really, it's gaming journalism, if it's shit with no standards, the world will keep turning). It's the shit she's done to make these issues personal to herself: the victim posturing, the alleged DMCA requests, the allegedly fake doxxing, allegedly shutting down and attacking pro-women groups that she didn't like, etc. This is all poorly articulated peop…
/r/MensRights30/08/14 08:10 AM
-1

2X is not really very toxic. It's pretty middle-of-the-road.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 03:45 AM
1

are you asking for this subreddit to brigade an online poll/survey? Because that's what it feels like.
/r/MensRights28/08/14 07:47 AM
1

It's not something else. It's a stereotype. It's an innocuous stereotype, but that's what it is.
/r/MensRights28/08/14 05:10 AM
4

That's certainly ONE assumption to jump to.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 11:55 PM
2

It is a sexist comment to say something positive about a group based on their sex. "Women are good at X" "Asians are good at X" Now, it's not like you said something seriously offensive. If you're worried about it, talk to her and let her know you didn't mean anything by it.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 11:54 PM
3

I'm just saying that it might be an idea to ignore the Jezebels and Valentis of the world and concentrate on actual issues. The question is whether it's about actually doing something and discussing real issues, or finding stuff to whine about and feel victimized by.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 11:52 PM
-2

"Financial Rape" really shouldn't be a term. It belittles what men and women that have suffered actual rape go through.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 07:07 PM
3

Allegation. Innocent until proven guilty, right guys?
/r/MensRights22/08/14 04:53 AM
3

I think you're being too eager in your analysis. This isn't some new unpopular movement that's just going to implode overnight. This isn't the first time feminists have vehemently disagreed with each other. You're taking people on the confrontational bleeding edge of feminism, people that write about it and engage in philosophical discussions, theory-promulgation, and manifesto-production, having internecine disputes, as they've done for forty years, and thinking that means tomorrow Beyonce is g…
/r/MensRights09/08/14 11:59 PM
-1

I think what happened here completely supports the narrative that catcalling is an inch away from physical violence.
/r/MensRights09/08/14 11:45 PM
1

You should probably talk to a lot of the people that posted in this thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/2caqx2/17_yr_old_girl_found_in_a_pool_of_blood_at_comic/ Because half of them are talking about how "17 isn't THAT young"
/r/MensRights06/08/14 06:09 AM
0

Is this your first time hearing about the Palins?
/r/MensRights03/08/14 03:09 AM
0

I think you have your gain set too high.
/r/MensRights03/08/14 03:05 AM
2

By the way, you said that sometimes you look, maybe glance over as they're walking by? According to this video, you're sexual harassing those women. Just saying. I don't think that's what the video says....
/r/MensRights03/08/14 02:54 AM
1

*Sugar Babies. The provider is the Sugar Daddy. https://www.seekingarrangement.com/
/r/MensRights03/08/14 01:46 AM
1

Hey, are you a new company with a limited marketing budget? Do offensive or ridiculous shit in your advertisements and get free publicity for it when people report on it. This phenomenon is what leads to the annual compendiums of "Rejected" superbowl ads.
/r/MensRights03/08/14 01:45 AM
5

Not being looked at is unreasonable. I think they definitely have a point though that guys are doing it for power or something. I mean, if you yell "NICE ASSSSSSSSS" out a car window, you're not expecting to get laid off that. So why are you doing it other than to harass people? You should be able to dress how you want without people harassing you. Hell, the dress doesn't even factor into it. Catcalling happens to women of all sorts. The problem is thinking you have some kind of right to other p…
/r/MensRights03/08/14 01:33 AM
1

catcalling in general is rude. People should be left alone. "Hi what's your name" is not particularly rude, but if you know that it's some random guy trying to pick you up, it's not shit you want to deal with, especially if you know there's a good chance the next thing out of his mouth if you acknowledge his existence is going to be something vulgar. Do you live in a big city where you spend lots of time on the street? I'm a dude, so I don't have to deal with people catcalling me, but if anyone …
/r/MensRights03/08/14 01:19 AM
0

Actually "probable cause" is the legal standard for arrest/prosecution...
/r/MensRights02/08/14 04:24 PM
1

Hrm that's interesting. She used to have this photo (taken by Project Cosplay, which is Justin Kalior) on her facebook, but took it down this morning.... http://imgur.com/f32i0i0
/r/MensRights01/08/14 11:18 PM
0

So, now that we have information that the police had quite reasonable belief that they were having a sexual relationship, are we going to stop calling this a witch-hunt?
/r/MensRights01/08/14 11:17 PM
0

There's a lot of sympathy for someone that (allegedly) violated the age of consent here. I wonder if the same amount would be extended to a woman that had slept with a 17 year old boy...
/r/MensRights01/08/14 10:29 PM
-2

this doesn't seem like a bad bill from that short writeup
/r/MensRights01/08/14 09:40 PM
0

lets not turn this subreddit into world star. I mean, are we just in to seeing women get hit, or what? This video is just nothing but trashy people behaving badly. The chick is obviously out of control and violent, but the dude wasn't hitting her in self defense, he was just re-starting a fight that had stopped. Both of them need to learn to act like fucking adults.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 09:12 PM
72

Or a smart teacher. You can't put your hands on a student in a public school and have a job the next day.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 07:22 PM
1

Fox isn't an ally. They might agree with men's rights issues at times, but only insofar as they conform with traditional conservative gender roles.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 07:08 PM
0

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strict_liability_(criminal)
/r/MensRights01/08/14 06:20 PM
1

...
/r/MensRights01/08/14 05:34 PM
0

Most people have sex with their girlfriends.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 05:04 PM
1

.....
/r/MensRights01/08/14 03:50 PM
-8

Please remind me what statute criminalizes being friends with an underage girl? People post some dumb shit......
/r/MensRights01/08/14 03:19 PM
-2

The fuck?
/r/MensRights01/08/14 03:16 PM
0

Penalties are just worse if the person is under 16. I am also not a lawyer, although I may soon be one.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 03:00 PM
3

Thats strict liability for you.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 02:49 PM
1

Age of consent according to your link is 18
/r/MensRights01/08/14 02:47 PM
-6

Do they?
/r/MensRights01/08/14 09:14 AM
2

Thats fair. I mean, people dont always tell the truth when police ask them if they have done something illegal, and my theory explains everything that has happened here in a reasonable way, but I dont expect people to take everything in some random youtube video as gospel.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 09:02 AM
6

Post this in a thread where a female teacher slept with a teen student. See where it gets you. Its immoral and its illegal.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 09:00 AM
-4

Im not assuming hes lying. Im assuming her age is somehow relevant to him. If they were just friends her age doesnt matter.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 08:53 AM
2

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e2XFjvZvL9w
/r/MensRights01/08/14 08:47 AM
1

he isn't charged with assaulting her. go read the other links in this thread.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 08:03 AM
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That's not what he said happened though. "We went to the party." I mean, there's all kinds of scenarios you can make up where this guy did nothing wrong. What if he actually spent the entire weekend on the moon because he's a cosmonaut?
/r/MensRights01/08/14 07:59 AM
1

http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/contributing-to-the-delinquency-of-a-minor.html There are other ways to contribute to the delinquency, too. Alcohol is just the most common. Since he took her there, you might be able to argue that he'd assumed some kind of duty as a babysitter or what have you, and so he failed that duty if he let her have the booze, even if he wasn't the one who gave it to her. As for other ways, sexual stuff that isn't statutory rape can be "contributing to the sex…
/r/MensRights01/08/14 07:58 AM
-3

He brought the girl to a hotel room party. I'd take some convincing for me not to think there was booze there. He apparently claimed in the past that the girl is his girlfriend. That makes me think it's quite possible he's had sex with her, or some kind of sexual contact. Plus the fact that he keeps saying that he thought she was 20. If you haven't done anything with the girl, it doesn't matter what her age is. Maybe nothing happened. But given what we DO know, it makes a lot more sense to think…
/r/MensRights01/08/14 07:51 AM
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Doesn't matter whether he did or not. Most "moral" crimes like that are strict liability, so intent doesn't matter. All that matters if whether you did the proscribed action. I mean, otherwise creeps would just get fake ids for the 14 year olds they were banging.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 07:48 AM
-15

I don't think those offenses come with long prison terms. I might be wrong, though.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 07:33 AM
2

He wasn't arrested for her injury. He was arrested for giving her booze and having sex with her. I'm going to imagine that the police had a reason to switch from "looking for someone that attacked this girl" to "arresting someone for giving her booze". If your "friend" is a minor (and you aren't) and you give her booze and have sex with her, I'd say you're pretty responsible for those actions.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 07:20 AM
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He was the one that drove her to the con, they were "close friends". Everyone, including the guy that ended up getting arrested, thought she had been attacked when she was found. She had a serious head injury and was hospitalized immediately, so she didn't say anything. When someone (especially a pretty white girl) has that kind of thing happen to them, the police investigate it. The investigation showed that Kalior had brought her to the Con, that he'd brought her to the party. He confirms this…
/r/MensRights01/08/14 07:07 AM
-15

Or you know, don't do shady, illegal stuff with minors. Even if he didn't talk, I'm sure other people that knew her or were at the party did.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 06:55 AM
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Eh, I feel like if you're 29 and date a 17 year old girl and give her booze, fuck you.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 06:54 AM
2

No. They probably just investigated what happened to the girl that fell, and in the course of that found out she was there with a 29 year old that referred to himself as her "boyfriend" and that he'd taken her to a party, where there was probably alcohol that she drank. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2XFjvZvL9w&feature=youtu.be
/r/MensRights01/08/14 06:50 AM
9

I'm going to guess what ACTUALLY happened is they went around looking for people that had attacked this girl, interviewed a bunch of people, people said "Justin, her boyfriend, brought her here" and the cops went and interviewed Justin. They found out he took her to a party, where there was alcohol, and he probably gave it to her. They probably also asked him how old he was, and when he said 29, they arrested him.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 06:48 AM
20

Dude is talking about taking her to a party. If you take a 17 year old to a party and get them alcohol, that's contributing to delinquency of a minor. There's also apparently evidence that the cosplayer was his "girlfriend". That's also illegal. There's a reason he keeps saying "I thought she was 20" in interviews. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2XFjvZvL9w
/r/MensRights01/08/14 06:46 AM
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Or don't take underage girls to parties... He said he took her to a hotel room party. If he got her booze there, then he is guilty of contributing to the delinquency of a minor, which he is charged with.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 06:42 AM
1

The guy himself was saying she was assaulted, just that it wasn't him. http://www.themarysue.com/comic-con-cosplay-assault/ When you find a 17 year old girl messed up and lying in her own blood, you probably jump to the assumption that someone attacked her.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 06:35 AM
14

a grand jury hearing is not an adversarial proceeding. The accused does not have a right to be there and people testifying before a grand jury don't have a right to have a lawyer in the room. The indictment of a grand jury would lead to an arrest and then an actual adversarial trial. Please don't talk using legal-sounding words like you know legal things when you don't have a legal background.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 06:27 AM
3

*woe be and you are right, there's actually a lot of punishing of poor/minority women for failing to mother in the same way richer women do: http://www.thenation.com/blog/180753/were-arresting-poor-mothers-our-own-failures
/r/MensRights31/07/14 12:58 AM
-1

Nah, I just don't like people that are poor advocates for stuff I like. Dawkins is o.k. in my book, but if you don't think his niche is "calling people names to sell books to athiests and get tv spots because I'll stir some shit up" you aren't paying close attention.
/r/MensRights31/07/14 12:55 AM
-1

He gets off on it. Dude's career basically depends on him offending SOMEONE.
/r/MensRights31/07/14 12:36 AM
1

Jesper Lohse, the head of Foreningen Fars, a father’s association, said that number is closer to 100 every year, and that most of the accusations are without merit. We wouldn't report a quote from a feminist as some kind of statistical fact, so lets not do it for this guy, either.
/r/MensRights31/07/14 12:28 AM
1

These are the old Slander Per Se categories from common law. Probably been that was for hundreds of years.
/r/MensRights27/07/14 09:15 PM
3

It's talk radio, and even worse than that, it's SPORTS talk radio. They say stupid offensive crap constantly, so any reaction other than a sad head shake and turning your radio to something worthwhile is an over-reaction.
/r/MensRights26/07/14 12:42 AM
3

in us common law you can have voluntary manslaughter, where you meant to kill them, but there was a significant provocation
/r/MensRights25/07/14 10:47 PM
1

Thanks bro
/r/MensRights24/07/14 07:54 PM
1

poe territory?
/r/MensRights24/07/14 07:45 PM
6

I don't feel better. Thanks for the effort though.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 07:19 AM
10

and that's fine. But acting like it's a right is a problem. I don't think this subreddit really enjoys traditional gender roles.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 06:03 AM
20

Honestly "women against feminism" worries me because it seems a large number of the women are advocating for a return to traditional roles and their right to be provided for by a man as they raise his children.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 05:48 AM
-2

This is fucking terrible, lol.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 05:43 AM
10

Yeah it's pretty hard to believe any business could be that dumb. What is the place? Also: WELCOME TO REDDIT, MATT. I see you created your account like 1 minute before posting this story.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 05:33 AM
1

Obviously anything that's a public court filing can be republished without concern. There's no commentary whatsoever on this, though: Was there a reason you elected to disclose all the witnesses who participated in the adjudication? Some of them are noting that because you’re identifying who was a roommate and where they lived, it provides enough clues to identify the alleged victim and the accused. If Fire did a crappy job of anononymizing things, that's bad on them.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 05:28 AM
1

There are witnesses to what happened, their statements to police would be used to determine that no sexual assault had occurred.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 05:27 AM
14

The really funny thing is that she specifically admits to organizing a twitter harassment campaign against an asshole she didn't like, hoping it would affect him in real life. Talk about dishing it out but not being able to take it.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 04:59 AM
4

It's probably on trial because the courts don't know how to treat twitter. If you treat every tweet as a phone call to her, it's probably some kind of harassment/stalking. If you treat it as not directed at her, it's not. That's just a wild-ass guess though. Unless there's something that's just not being reported.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 04:57 AM
2

There's a ton of female rape in the prison system too. It's a terrible system all around, and men as disproportionately represented there.
/r/MensRights22/07/14 08:48 PM
12

1) Women are generally treated as more vulnerable, needing to be "protected" "more innocent" etc etc etc. Gender roles bullshit. 2) Women don't participate in the fighting on the Palestinian side, so it's relevant because it's almost assured that women were not valid targets as "combatants".
/r/MensRights21/07/14 09:39 AM
-7

*accused pedophiles Remember, we're talking about a man that allegedly committed a sex crime against a woman on this subreddit. Everyone's going to want to act like he's innocent, possibly even after conviction.
/r/MensRights14/07/14 07:17 PM
51

Paywall There may be legitimate reasons for this (he has a prior record, she doesn't, he is a "flight risk" becuase he has family overseas, she isn't) but it's probably because the criminal justice system sees men as criminals and women as victims.
/r/MensRights14/07/14 07:16 PM
1

very different things
/r/MensRights14/07/14 03:27 AM
5

Title doesn't match content. Come on man.
/r/MensRights13/07/14 04:56 PM
11

and if google spent a bunch of money on a campaign to encourage men to get into child care and be seen as viable child care providers, then I don't think we would complain, would we?
/r/MensRights11/07/14 02:03 AM
1

and so do the feminist subreddits, but they aren't up there
/r/MensRights10/07/14 10:32 PM
1

this is why r/australia is super negative. I don't know anything about australia but I subscribe there.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 10:32 PM
1

There certainly is. On the other hand, just being a constant outrage circlejerk isn't very meaningful.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 10:22 PM
0

I think you need to look into actual legal standards.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 08:08 PM
0

No, I'm saying it's a really hard claim to bring and only relevant when the lawyer was incredibly inept AND it can be shown that the ineptitude prejudiced the case. Otherwise everyone that lost a case would have a legitimate claim of "ineffective counsel". It's just...not relevant to this situation.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 07:57 PM
3

Yes. I can say that. The kid wasn't seriously injured so it was just a scuffle. It takes a good amount to go to jail.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 07:02 PM
0

Ineffective counsel claims are some of the most difficult claims to plead successfully because of the second part of the Strickland test. Courts usually do not find that an attorney’s behavior affected a trial so strongly that the outcome is unreliable. When you are presenting an ineffective counsel claim, you should ask the court to consider the total effect of all of your lawyer’s errors.28 Try to find cases where defendants successfully presented similar claims and structure your claim in a s…
/r/MensRights10/07/14 06:48 PM
1

Did you actually read this? What are you trying to say?
/r/MensRights10/07/14 09:48 AM
0

an attorney saying he was better than the other attorney or that a victim is sympathetic is not the same thing as saying the trial was "unfair" in a legal sense.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 01:11 AM
0

When does the prosecutor say Tyson didn't get a fair trial?
/r/MensRights09/07/14 11:15 PM
2

However, celebrities are also surrounded by people that say yes to them, and always able to get their way. They also often live in a fantasy world where they are above the law. If someone actually does say "no" to them, it wouldn't be a huge shock if they ignored it.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 10:51 PM
-1

I don't think we can say this guy is innocent or not. I mean, he's a person with an incredibly troubled life and obvious problems with impulse control and violent behavior. I think hitching your wagon to the "Tyson is innocent!" train is just supporting the idea that MRAs think all rape victims are liars and nothing is rape. Saying the trial wasn't fair is one thing, but guilty people get unfair trials all the time.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 10:49 PM
0

well there you go
/r/MensRights08/07/14 05:23 PM
1

You have to remember this is a person that lives in a society where it's okay for girls to hit guys. She's probably not a bad person and she probably won't do it again because you made an issue in the first place. I'd suggest the best option would be to apologize for making fun of her, since it obviously bothered her, and apologize for "making a big deal" about the punch, but say "I just don't like being hit, even if it's a joke, ok?" and then move on with working together. If the situation can'…
/r/MensRights08/07/14 05:14 PM
7

well he used to be a billionaire hedge fund tycoon...
/r/MensRights08/07/14 08:32 AM
-1

People say crazy things.... in a case where two women crashed at a dude's house (who hadn't been out with them) and then one woke up to him just raping her... Judge Michael Mettyear, the honorary recorder of Hull and the East Riding, told Setford yesterday: "It's sad to see a man of generally good character in the dock for such a serious offence. "I do not regard you as a classic rapist. I do not think you are a general danger to strangers. You are not the type who goes searching for a woman to …
/r/MensRights07/07/14 11:35 PM
8

Meh, it's just trash pandering clickbait. You're playing into their strategy by linking to it.
/r/MensRights26/06/14 01:02 AM
-1

I don't know but Mumbai police might have a different definition of "consensual" than people in the states. It's probably still legal to rape your wife.
/r/MensRights24/06/14 07:29 PM
14

I think you are mis-stating this study. The percentages are based on their sample of sexual assault related claims. The Remaining Claims and Losses were brought by accusers So yes, it's 72%, but it's 72% of the sexual-assault-related payouts the insurer makes, not the total payouts, as implied in the post title. For a board that's so dedicated to good statistics on the wage gap, this was pretty shoddily read.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 01:16 AM
7

They aren't suggesting school monitors at student gatherings. By "all student parties" they meant all accusers/accused that are students should get a faculty advisor. If schools have to have rape tribunals, I don't think this is a bad idea.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 05:33 AM
1

Wait, if I"m reading this correctly, the person who screencapped this is following michelle malkin...
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:38 PM
1

Please post on r/thathappened or r/forwardsfromgrandma
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:15 AM
1

That alone would be awkward, but not dispositive. If I intend to have sex with someone I might change my mind if I arrive at their home with my condoms and I am given a tour of their nazi memoribelia. If I became extremely drunk and they had sex with me, I would have been raped (no scare quotes). That said, it doesn't seem like this is legit.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 07:52 AM
1

If you dig around you can find people posting hateful stuff (which is usually downvoted). However, if you disagree with something, the easiest thing to do is just find the most hateful/idiotic person that agrees with it, and then use them to represent everyone on that "side" of the argument. Just like in a political discussion, where republicans are advocating for some tax thing, there's going to be one guy that just bumps in and says some racist shit, and democrats are going to have an easier t…
/r/MensRights11/06/14 08:16 PM
1

man... this article has a ton of gender-bases stereotypes right off the bat. I don't think that's very positive for anyone.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 08:08 PM
3

Gay males (like minorities) are super-disposable in today's society.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 04:44 PM
7

look up "gay panic defense" sometime if you want to see some ridiculous shit
/r/MensRights11/06/14 07:28 AM
0

Yeah there probably are some innate differences. I basically feel about them the way Tyson does though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEeBPSvcNZQ#t=3690
/r/MensRights30/05/14 06:37 PM
2

Police and Prison violence is absolutely a Men's rights issue as men disproportionately feel the effects, although it, like many other men's issues should basically be considered a human rights issues, since the small minority of women/trans people that suffer it are also being violated.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 06:07 PM
11

I know you're probably citing this to show that "traditional" views about gender are real because people with opposite-sex siblings just observe their siblings in the state of nature and note the differences. However it could also mean that people with opposite-sex siblings have different experiences during their formative years. If my siblings are only boys, there aren't barbies in the house. If I have a sister, and I try to play with her barbies because hey, I'm a kid and I want toys, then it'…
/r/MensRights30/05/14 05:56 PM
3

I don't know, I consider it disrespectful for people to interrupt my day to try to sell me crap in the first place, so I would consider it doubly offensive for a steak salesman to not take "no" for an answer and continue to waste my time trying to sell me his off-brand who-knows-what steak out of the back of a van. I would also feel resentful if the only reliable way to get him to leave me the fuck alone would be to lie to him, as I don't like lying. If a salesperson/charity mugger/beggar doesn'…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 07:29 PM
5

http://www.fakeiphonetext.com/ knock yourself out
/r/MensRights29/05/14 07:19 PM
2

Raging against the latest silly criticism isn't going to do anybody much good. Maybe instead look for any criticisms that might have a point/have some value in your own thinking? And while there are aspects of MRA that are worth bringing to light, as a movement it can suck a good man down a rabbit hole of resentment. This is certainly true, just as it is true for feminism. People, regardless of gender, race, whatever else, are all victimized by the way society treats them. If you spend all your …
/r/MensRights29/05/14 07:08 PM
0

It's really sad and pathetic how a perfectly reasonable response gets crushed by downvotes here. Try not to live up to the stereotypes you hate, guys.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 05:50 PM
-5

Looking at it most charitably, #yesallwomen is trying to establish that some problems are society-wide and frequent, when people are trying to dismiss them as weird random independent events that couldn't be predicted. For example, if a female friend were to politely tell a man asking her out that she wasn't interested, and he were to respond "I hope you get raped, you stupid dyke cunt," most people would say "Wow, that guy was crazy, stay away from him." (and that's good advice) But it's not ju…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 05:48 PM
7

Simple solution: believe that any number with respect to sex slavery is horrific. Even if the actual numbers are 10% of what is stated, that is still a horrible thing. Human trafficking of both men and women, is one of the most disgusting abuses of humanity that goes on in the modern world, and without a doubt far more common than should be tolerated.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 05:06 PM
2

Depends. Men have to wear more conservative crap, but men never get accused of dressing "too sexy" etc.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 01:38 AM
1

I really think if you are going to insist on making "not all men" arguments you should accept the validity of "not all feminists". It's just logically sound.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 04:45 PM
10

Being able to wear manly clothes or feminine clothes, without being called a faggot or having your sexuality questioned. #Yesallwomen This isn't a very strong point. Women who don't present according to their gender standards (i.e. have a shaved head or other "man" haircut, don't shave legs or armpits, wear "dykey" clothes etc) still get called dykes and face abuse for it as men who don't fit their standard. It's just that their standard has more flexibility in some respects.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 04:42 PM
8

To be honest I think if someone had released a screed about how they hated men and were going to "show them" and then shot many men, this forum would have been frothing at the mouth to call her a product of feminism. It's not like this subreddit doesn't have any bad habits.
/r/MensRights26/05/14 01:06 PM
1

We're getting used to seeing every week on reddit a new case of a wife who finally had the courage to tell his husband that he's too small, or a girlfriend that leaves a guy for someone with a bigger cock. What subreddits are you subscribed to?
/r/MensRights17/05/14 04:20 AM
-1

what
/r/MensRights17/05/14 04:06 AM
2

Eh, legal opinions have a lot of crap in them. The contract language in the decision was probably dry and they quoted something more interesting.
/r/MensRights17/05/14 04:06 AM
6

I would also be okay with the decision if he were not going to be held financially responsible for the kids. That might not even be a problem, since she is a doctor and he is a firefighter/nurse.
/r/MensRights17/05/14 04:05 AM
0

Meh, it's good that he didn't hit her back. She was flipping out, but she wasn't hurting him seriously and it's good that he didn't escalate it.
/r/MensRights15/05/14 05:29 PM
2

Is the MRM about men's issues or antifeminism?
/r/MensRights15/05/14 05:31 AM
2

School dress code like this are often bad for both sexes and serve to gender police.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 05:55 PM
3

Hey man, I love my mom.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 05:45 PM
-5

The roles have been reversed, somewhat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY6JklZNndA
/r/MensRights12/05/14 05:44 PM
-1

r/thathappened
/r/MensRights12/05/14 04:19 AM
8

Not go back over and fight her after she stops attacking him.
/r/MensRights10/05/14 06:01 AM
1

From reading the police report, I think a school coach would be justified in kicking the dudes off the team for underage drinking and gang-banging drunk groupies they just met. Character issues that a coach should be concerned about, even if they aren't crimes.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 08:45 PM
1

the fuck?
/r/MensRights09/05/14 08:11 PM
8

Not all men call women they don't like whores....
/r/MensRights09/05/14 07:51 PM
2

MRA is to people that hate women what the republican party is to racism. It's not what the organization stands for, but it's where those people feel comfortable. It's really easy to pick out the angriest/most bitter commenters and just use them to color the whole thing. You can't deny there are a lot of bitter angry people that post here that really feel women are out to get them, and it's easy to just engage those people.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 02:55 PM
20

There's no mention of men's rights in this article? Am I just missing it?
/r/MensRights09/05/14 02:53 PM
2

But the purpose of the MHRM is not to oppose feminism. It is to advance the rights of men. Some here don't seem to have gotten that memo.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 02:48 PM
0

you're missing the point
/r/MensRights09/05/14 02:48 PM
0

That's a different argument.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 06:37 AM
1

Pretty good but makes the same errors she does. Being harassed by men on the street and being harassed by cops both suck. It's a male privilege to avoid one and a female privilege to avoid the other. Neither one invalidates the other. Everyone has to deal with different bullshit. Wasting our time arguing over who has to deal with worse bullshit seems to me to be far less valuable than just trying to stop the bullshit in general.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 06:32 AM
1

Huh
/r/MensRights09/05/14 06:21 AM
2

The pornographic industry has a lot of failures for every millionaire Jenna Jameson, and a lot of naive 18 year olds that get pushed into doing things they didn't really want to do. (Show up for a one on one scene, well we have two guys here...and we are going to do anal. You want to be paid, right?). I don't think pornographic is wrong or harmful, but it isn't a healthy industry by and large and it definitely harms a lot of young women in it. It's like what boxing does for poor black men. Hey t…
/r/MensRights09/05/14 06:05 AM
-1

Who says there wasn't? The point is we are just assuming shot over the internet.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 05:54 AM
-2

Or we could assume that they were guilty since there was enough evidence to kick them off the team. Since after all, our random internet opinions don't carry the same weight as criminal punishment. Or we could just assume it's complicated and we don't know.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 05:44 AM
2

Probably because while a stupid and offensive policy, it's also an extreme niche issue that very few people have had to deal with.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 04:17 AM
4

Kinda like being accused of something like that...
/r/MensRights09/05/14 04:05 AM
-1

DA not bringing charges is like the least-weak weakness you can have. DAs want to win cases and also not stir up political trouble for themselves, so they bring charges on their strongest cases, not just whatever comes their way. Not saying anything about this case specifically, but just saying that just because da doesn't move forward doesn't mean it's automatically bullshit.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 04:04 AM
2

Victims can and should do things to avoid being victimized, but that doesn't mean it's in any way their fault if someone chooses to victimize them. If I have a wooden front door and someone smashes it in and murders me, yeah I could have bought a metal front door, or I could have bought a gun, but that doesn't make it my fault. It's not illegal to not have a metal front door, it's not illegal to drink a lot. It is illegal and wrong to rape someone because they're blacked out.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 11:55 PM
10

I don't think it's really a gray area when someone is passing out and non-responsive.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 11:49 PM
-4

The article doesn't even feature him denying the rape charges. You just invented it. He's also been found guilty of the crime. At what point do you stop trying to imagine away the rape?
/r/MensRights06/05/14 12:29 AM
-5

So we just assuming all rape accusations are lies now, or what?
/r/MensRights06/05/14 12:03 AM
-1

Did you even read the article? The dude raped her multiple times, which apparently is OK under Indian law if you marry her afterwards, but then he didn't marry her. Please forgive the fuck out of me for not thinking it's a travesty of justice if a multiple rapist ends up in jail for failing to use a loophole that shouldn't exist.
/r/MensRights05/05/14 11:14 PM
1

Probably because they're goofing off so the guy isn't actually being threatened.
/r/MensRights05/05/14 08:15 PM
-5

I don't think India is exactly on the forefront of any sort of law enforcement policies, especially when it comes to sex. This is just an "India is shitty for people that live there and can't bribe their way out of everything" issue, not a "men are oppressed in India" issue.
/r/MensRights05/05/14 08:14 PM
1

Restricting people from things based on gender is sexist lunacy.
/r/MensRights03/05/14 03:22 AM
1

I think the problem is that this isn't just a perfect scientific experiment. If there are more men working 60 hour weeks being coders, maybe that's because men are more likely to be good at coding because of testosterone, or maybe it's because women are discouraged from doing that because it's a "geeky man field" or maybe men are pressured into it because their gender role is "work hard and provide". Until culture is more equitable, or we better understand what's really going on with innate diff…
/r/MensRights03/05/14 03:08 AM
1

I think this is the right response though... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=035lOhkNbkM
/r/MensRights03/05/14 01:56 AM
1

This is a college sophomore writing (badly) for her school paper. I'm Filing it alongside Facebook posts and tweets as "ugh whatever"
/r/MensRights03/05/14 12:04 AM
2

I'd say men are better at most sports because size and strength is an advantage in them and testosterone makes you bigger and stronger. But, "men have snooker brains" is a really fucking dangerous thing to blithely accept. What if snooker uses the same brain regions as rape or murder? Now men have rape or murder brains and women don't. Would you accept that in order to not be pc all the time?
/r/MensRights02/05/14 09:29 PM
10

I don't think it is productive to say men are inherently better suited mentally to something like this, even if it's a short term positive. Saying "men have x type of brain so they are good at y" is the same thing as saying "men have x type of brain so they are bad at z". If men are better than women at snooker because their brain is better at being obsessed with silly things, maybe they are worse at being parents because they get distracted by silly things. It's just a bad narrative in general …
/r/MensRights02/05/14 09:10 PM
1

This is primarily about race, not gender.
/r/MensRights02/05/14 06:05 PM
1

Unacceptable for men to step out of their gender role and possibly be gay because they show any affection. Acceptable for women because they're just besties!
/r/MensRights02/05/14 06:04 PM
1

There's no mention of men here. You're imposing your own internalized "men are the victimizer" mindset on it. Maybe there's a restraining order against a "Fatal Attraction" type woman so this girl needs to learn to shoot.
/r/MensRights02/05/14 05:58 PM
5

This is a pretty asinine response, in that it doesn't actually address anything put pointlessly plays victim olympics. Just because some female privileges exist doesn't mean there are no male privileges, and contrariwise. Just a waste of time.
/r/MensRights01/05/14 03:07 AM
24

Of course. People love posting dumb shit on their facebooks.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 05:57 PM
3

If you're on testosterone, you'd probably be less masculine after months of not taking it. It's not like you go into withdrawal or something. Also meds and further treatments aren't "necessary and ongoing". You can just cut off your hair, change your name, say you're a man, and you're transgender. It's just military bullshit to act like there's a medical reason for it.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 05:44 PM
1

You may receive some flak and you may receive some preference. When I was younger I got some babysitting work because "boys like someone that will be like a big brother to them"
/r/MensRights27/04/14 05:34 PM
1

Are you saying men are inherently more bullet-resistant than women, and thus should be the gender sent to war, because of ovaries?
/r/MensRights27/04/14 05:31 PM
1

I feel like this was written just to be offensive click-bait.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 04:54 PM
3

Thoughtfully written, fair to men, I like it. As for "boys buy the condoms," well my girlfriend says that she takes care of the birth control pill, so the condoms are on me. I think that's fair. :-X
/r/MensRights27/04/14 03:26 PM
11

Maybe they've found that vapid canadian women are the type of women that are most likely to buy wendy's salads through extensive market research.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 03:14 PM
6

Have you seen youtube comments? If I were selling a product I wouldn't want to attach "TASTES LIKE UR MUM'S DILDO LOLLLLLLL" to it.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 03:13 PM
-1

Well according to this: http://itech.fgcu.edu/&/issues/vol1/issue1/feather.htm The british women's suffrage movement had trouble getting any traction pre-war by directly opposing the conservative british establishment with hunger strikes, arson, and other forms of radical resistance, but when war broke out, their leaders actively aligned themselves WITH the establishment on the war effort, which had the effect of mainstreaming their other views.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 03:07 PM
2

Yeah, I didn't know anyting about this subject and I found this to be a pretty interesting if academic/long article about Pankhurst. http://itech.fgcu.edu/&/issues/vol1/issue1/feather.htm She seems like a pretty savvy political operative. Hunger strikes and arson pre-war, then joining the establishment to advocate for the war and piggyback her message onto the national propaganda machine. She also advocated for a mandatory draft of women into factory jobs for the war effort.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 07:19 AM
-4

No, I like checking on things that seem iffy, then dismissing them if the research seems to show that it is in fact inaccurate, and sharing what I found with other people who might not be similarly motivated to look on their own, to keep misconceptions from spreading.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 07:11 AM
-2

It's interesting to think about. Women in the UK couldn't vote at the time and were still second-class citizens in many other ways. In such a system, where the argument is that women can't be trusted to vote etc etc and the men should do the important things and take care of them, don't women kind of have the right to demand that they go save the nation, since they are the paternalistic protectors? Not saying it was ok, but it makes a lot more sense then than a men-only draft does today.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 06:46 AM
35

It seems like this was an unfortunate and society-wide phenomenon not solely associated with feminists or sufragettes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_feather I strongly suggest you get your information from sources other than blogs, especially blogs dedicated solely to smearing feminism by any means possible. One of the women that founded the "white feather society": She was also a significant campaigner against women getting the vote.[15] In the summer of 1908 she was approached by George N…
/r/MensRights27/04/14 06:26 AM
1

I don't know what you're talking about specifically because you're just being kind of ranty. But yes, "even in practice". I think it's best to know for sure that someone wants to be doing the sexual things you're doing. I don't think the "just do what you want until she stops you" system is ideal. This is all just personal etiquette discussion. I don't think there's any reasonable way to legislate "enthusiastic". Basic consent is easy in comparison.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 06:16 AM
4

I disagree. I think it's accepted and done by lots of young people, and tolerated as an inevitable fact of life/partying by many women. That's just based on my own experiences in college and in my twenties. Unless someone has studied it, we're not really going to resolve it, so whatever.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 02:46 AM
-1

Do you go to clubs or frat parties? How old are you? Seriously. If you're on the dance floor and a female, a guy will come up and touch you and dance on you. Man, I even remember a small house party I went to that was just my friends. At the end of the night one girl told me I was the only guy (out of about ten) that didn't grab her ass that night. I was disgusted, but she was blase about it "that's how guys are when they drink". You're at the party, you go up and make some contact with a girl, …
/r/MensRights27/04/14 02:33 AM
2

The only thing I would suggest, if he is attempting to perform a detailed breakdown of bad statistics, would be to point to what the statistics he is using do and do not show. That is, that while women make the same in the same field, that doesn't show that there is no sexism at work in the workplace, as gender norms may push men to seek more dangerous/more hours/higher-paying work and also discourage women from doing the same. I.e. Man wants to be a nurse instead of a doctor: "What about your f…
/r/MensRights27/04/14 02:29 AM
37

Enthusiastic consent is probably a good personal practice, but not a good legal standard.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 02:19 AM
-5

There's a LOT of people that grope at parties. It's pretty socially acceptable to put your hands on a woman in a club/bar/frat to see if she's interested, so I'd say at least that isn't really being taught in american culture. There's a substantial minority that yell at women on the street and/or follow them to holler some more, too. It doesn't have to be a huge number. If a woman walks past 100 men on a medium-busy street on the way to and from the grocery store, she's going to remember the one…
/r/MensRights27/04/14 02:15 AM
1

The flaw in your analogy is that a drunk driver is responsible for their own, individual actions, but you're trying to extend that to immunity for whatever someone does TO that person. If a really drunk person drinks poison and dies, that's their own fault. If someone convinces a really drunk person to drink poison, then that's murder. Taking advantage of someone else's limited capacity is clearly wrong and should be illegal, and is in most cases. I'll also point out that at no point did I gende…
/r/MensRights26/04/14 10:18 PM
2

I am not being sarcastic. I think that if someone only says "yes" because they are too drunk to remember why they said "no" repeatedly while sober, then having sex with them is wrong, immoral, and rape.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 07:17 PM
1

It's usually whatever meaning is most useful to the poster, regardless of whether it's mainstream feminism or not. Also everyone that ever brands themselves as a feminist is seen as a perfect spokesman for a monolithic group of like-minded individuals, even if the average women's studies college student wouldn't say "All sex is rape".
/r/MensRights26/04/14 04:52 PM
5

Someone who only said yes because of alcohol and pressure? Sounds like rape to me.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 04:37 PM
-1

What's your point? If he's serving 60 years for sex crimes, they were probably extremely serious offenses, as it's very hard to get that much time otherwise.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 01:59 AM
1

totally, and this subreddit wastes far too much of its energy on antifeminism instead of mens rights.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 01:55 AM
5

"Unless you give us stuff, you are our enemy". I don't know about that one...
/r/MensRights19/04/14 02:01 PM
4

allies instead of enemies yes, this
/r/MensRights19/04/14 04:43 AM
-3

I'm sorry, did an actual feminist offer her harpy like opinion on this, or was a hypothetical feminist erected to be knocked down?
/r/MensRights17/04/14 08:05 AM
-8

Oh I'm sure there are weirdos that will blame this on whatever. I'm sure some people here will say it's all feminism's fault. I guess I just had a shitty reaction here because, the way I see it, the social problem that led to this boy attempting to kill himself at 11 (holy shit) is just being exploited here to bash feminism. This isn't a discussion of how this could happen or what we could do to change it, it's just antifeminism.
/r/MensRights17/04/14 04:53 AM
-5

I dunno. It's not something that actually happened, so getting all worked up about something that hypothetically is going to happen seems kinda silly to me.
/r/MensRights17/04/14 04:40 AM
-12

Kid suffering? LETS BITCH ABOUT STRAW-MEN FEMINISTS.
/r/MensRights17/04/14 04:30 AM
1

Or maybe she has a quack shrink that told her she had PTSD. Or maybe she actually has it. We don't really know.
/r/MensRights16/04/14 08:51 PM
-2

It's also probably part of her livelihood to be on there. Not everyone reacts the same way, so it's probably not a good idea to say "hey, you're not reacting in the proper way, so you arne't a real victim of <whatever>." She also probably doesn't have PTSD, even if twitter insults and the thought thereof makes her anxious or uncomfortable.
/r/MensRights16/04/14 08:02 PM
2

Glamour magazine... Filing this under "publications that shouldn't exist"
/r/MensRights16/04/14 04:59 PM
8

Intersex ESPECIALLY because one of the big issues non-cisgendered people face is being expected to comport themselves according to the same gender norms/expectations that hurt cisgendered men and women.
/r/MensRights16/04/14 04:20 PM
-16

If soldiers are harassing her in a way that violates their regulations, even if she deserves it, then they should be fired. I suspect that, unless they were making political statements IN UNIFORM or something like that, there will be no consequences for the soldiers. And hell, she might actually have PTSD, if she freaks out enough about the mean shit people say on twitter. The human brain is not a totally rational thing, and not every person is the same. I'm sure there are some combat veterans w…
/r/MensRights16/04/14 04:11 PM
1

It's absolutely worth following the story and keeping after it until we figure out the whole story. Maybe she just got mugged, maybe the guy is some asshole that is fringe involved with mens rights because he hates women. We don't know yet. However, this subreddit in general does have a tendency to invent conspiracy theories/engage in magical thinking, whenever presented with something they don't like.
/r/MensRights16/04/14 03:38 PM
1

Yeah, and this is all based on random speculation from you, primarily based on what you WANT to be true. It's conceivable, but there's no evidence for it whatsoever.
/r/MensRights16/04/14 03:12 PM
-2

the conspiracy theory is strong in this one
/r/MensRights16/04/14 05:08 AM
9

You shouldn't even link to clickbait trash like this. AS long as this person can get tons of clicks by baiting this subreddit, she's going to keep doing it.
/r/MensRights16/04/14 04:59 AM
1

the atlantic is usually a pretty good publication, imho.
/r/MensRights16/04/14 03:34 AM
1

No, I'm sure there were plenty of unhinged thoughtful responses of that sort though.
/r/MensRights13/04/14 03:14 PM
5

I see tons of female specific terms in dress codes, and if you really want to get deep into dress codes in a school context, usually they're way more sexist against women than men, although then the reasoning used to defend them is often more sexist against men.
/r/MensRights13/04/14 01:57 AM
-1

Same category as the fact that that place probably wouldn't let in a man wearing a dress, and places that would accept male shirtlessness won't accept female toplessness. It's just gender roles. Men in low cut tank tops: trashy rednecks. Women in low cut tank tops: showing some skin to be sexy. Not a good thing, but hardly the worst thing either.
/r/MensRights13/04/14 01:56 AM
3

Garbage commercial. Bad idea, worse execution. I really hope it doesn't get picked up anywhere.
/r/MensRights13/04/14 01:50 AM
2

"You need a man to be a man and a woman to be a woman." Yeah just because feminists are attacking something doesn't mean it's right, much as some people would like to think it. Maybe she just wasn't being thoughtful, but it sounds like she's advocating for at least some retention of traditional gender roles, with the traditional male gender roles being exactly what people around here dislike, and traditional female gender roles being exactly what feminists dislike.
/r/MensRights13/04/14 01:46 AM
-4

You don't care about men's issues, or feel that men are forced to play a gender role that can deeply harm them? Or what?
/r/MensRights13/04/14 01:35 AM
0

Or we could wait until we can actually see the movie and see what it says.
/r/MensRights13/04/14 01:34 AM
3

I was really hoping this would be different than it was. Too much of the stuff that gets posted here isn't for general consumption or to inform/advocate to a general audience, it's just hitting all the points that people that already read this subreddit want to hear. Preaching to the choir. i.e. a big circle jerk. This isn't the "adult" discussion, it still read just like a forum post. This isn't something I'd feel comfortable showing to my friends, even if I agree with many/most of the points i…
/r/MensRights13/04/14 12:51 AM
7

I'm pretty sure your therapist will be open to you talking about the effect you feel the gender role assigned to you has on you.
/r/MensRights12/04/14 06:03 AM
14

She's a therapist there for you to talk to about your problems. You don't need to convince her that the 77% wage claim is based on poor statistics. You need to talk about YOUR issues. If you're having issues with people's reactions to your rape, that's the issue to talk about. If her reaction to THAT is bad, then you need a new therapist.
/r/MensRights12/04/14 04:25 AM
4

Well the music video uses naked beautiful women as sex object props, which understandably bothers some people. But yeah, I don't get the idea that the song is "rapey" at all. It's your typical "I'm a sex god women want my sex" sort of pop song.
/r/MensRights11/04/14 09:45 PM
8

It's probably not hard at all to get a DJ at a campus bar fired for nothing. DJ's near college campuses are easy to find, competition for customers is probably fierce. If someone is willing to complain hard about anything, you can probably get the DJ fired.
/r/MensRights11/04/14 09:44 PM
10

What are you even trying to say here?
/r/MensRights11/04/14 09:43 PM
1

This is a paper published in a law review, not a peer-reviewed scientific journal, and should be treated as such.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 04:12 AM
1

The exchange I read, he continued to try to meet up with her after finding out she wasn't 18, talking about a hotel room etc. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/03/james-franco-teenage-girl_n_5083172.html
/r/MensRights04/04/14 04:28 PM
1

It's gender discrimination not to promote women, even if you pay all the same positions the same amount of money. That discrimination won't show up in measurements that account for "pay by position".
/r/MensRights04/04/14 08:45 AM
-11

I said female teacher because those are the stories that pop up here.
/r/MensRights04/04/14 08:23 AM
-12

irrelevant
/r/MensRights04/04/14 08:01 AM
1

Don't forget that not everyone neatly fits into one of two gender categories.
/r/MensRights04/04/14 07:21 AM
-12

Why shouldn't he be shamed for hitting on someone perceived as too young? I mean, is it a "Mens Rights" issue to be free from public condemnation of acts regarded as distasteful, if not illegal? This subreddit would call for severe punishment for a female teacher having sex with a 17 year old male student, if it were at all feasible.
/r/MensRights04/04/14 07:08 AM
2

This is misinformation. Please do not repeat it.
/r/MensRights04/04/14 07:02 AM
0

Yes, this does a good job of discussing some of the quantitative errors usually in the pay gap estimates. However, because it's purely quantitative work, it doesn't talk about qualitative factors. Lets say we have a law firm, and at the law firm, you find out that the women make 77% of what the men make. SEXISM! You cry. And the hispanic employees make 10% of what the white employees make. RACISM! But then you look and see that of the employees, the only hispanic employees are the janitors, and …
/r/MensRights04/04/14 06:46 AM
6

You punch in the chin and it crushes the teeth together, or her mouth is open and you connect with the tooth directly.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 01:50 AM
3

No, it's a famously racist/segregated profession.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 01:32 AM
1

Some of that is sexism. Women that negotiate salaries are seen as acting outside their gender role and being threateningly assertive, whereas men that negotiate salaries are just "driving a hard bargain". Kinda like how the men that DON'T negotiate their salaries are penalized for not matching up to the gender expectation of being assertive and self-assured.
/r/MensRights21/03/14 07:48 PM
2

No, male privilege does exist. That's what I"m talking about. Just because there is female privilege doesn't mean that there is no male privilege in any area. An easy example is gender roles. If a man decides to be a cop that's ok, because they are "strong and authoritative." That's male privilege. If a woman decides to be a nanny, that's ok, because they are "nurturing and supportive". That's female privilege. A woman that wants to be a cop is "trying to be something she's not" because she's "w…
/r/MensRights12/03/14 07:22 PM
5

Good point. I'm just using the words usually used to describe these problems, but you're absolutely right, everybody should have the "privileges" that are usually discussed, since they're primarily "lack of undeserved negative treatment."
/r/MensRights12/03/14 05:50 PM
1

I only ever hear about her from such negative reports.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 10:55 PM
4

I avoid the subject because she's not important in any way and she's good at playing the victim, so going after her just lets her do that.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 09:35 PM
2

You are correct.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:44 PM
-5

They do have some point though. I mean, it's not like this subreddit isn't super-eager to find any reason to jump all over Anita for being annoying etc.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 07:55 PM
4

This is a troll, right?
/r/MensRights11/03/14 05:08 PM
1

So you're saying women are more likely to find ways out of performing combat duties than men?
/r/MensRights01/03/14 12:20 AM
-1

It's actually a much better system from a hard-reduction perspective. Prostitutes are traditionally underserved by the protective features of the state and very frequently victimized, in large part because their activities are illicit so they are less likely to report crimes committed against them, and police are less likely to care. This law would apply to male prostitutes too, so it's not a sexist issue.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 08:48 PM
1

Sounds like most of the same arguments against gays in the military. Any lady that played for her school's rugby team and can carry around the gear can go shoot people as far as I'm concerned. More women in the military that are just as qualified as the men is fine in my book. It's funny when people act like women "aren't strong enough" to do this stuff. It's not like every man in the army is 6'3" and built like a bodybuilder. There are plenty of smaller dudes that do the training and get the jo…
/r/MensRights28/02/14 08:44 PM
12

Life tactic #238: don't leave a felony lying around when you're rich, famous, and splitting up with your wife.
/r/MensRights27/02/14 05:24 PM
3

I think it's interesting reading the description of the police investigation: every time the police are told about a man and a woman in this investigation, they go talk to the man and do not investigate the woman, and in the end it's the interviews with the women that actually break the case.
/r/MensRights27/02/14 04:04 AM
11

Men's health: Cosmo with advertisements for prostate cancer medications.
/r/MensRights21/02/14 03:46 PM
1

Just downvote the whole thing. You can get the same argument/statistics from less awful sources.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 06:51 PM
12

You should be careful citing American Renaissance. It's a racial separatist organization at best, white supremacist at worst, and regularly pumps out stuff that is straight up racist talking points dressed up as intellectual discussion. By "be careful" I really mean "just don't".
/r/MensRights07/02/14 04:03 PM
1

Because she lied about not being a victim of an awful crime when she was actually the victim of an awful crime, and she lied because she was being threatened by the person that had victimized her before. Also it wasn't a particularly serious crime (her falsely withdrawing her accusation) and she was in jail for a long time pre-trial. http://www.theguardian.com/society/2012/mar/13/woman-retracted-rape-claim-husband
/r/MensRights07/02/14 01:21 AM
3

Wow, Sarah's case is pretty sad. She was in a horribly abusive relationship, accused her husband of abuse, then, after threats from him and his family, withdrew the accusation. There was already an investigation giong at that point, so it became obvious she'd lied when she withdrew the accusation (i.e. that she'd really been abused and was dishonest when she withdrew it, not that she lied in making the accusation), and she was prosecuted for covering up a crime, which she admitted. She only spen…
/r/MensRights06/02/14 10:22 PM
-1

This guy seems just as messed up as everyone else in the family. When your sister is saying your father molested her, even if you don't think it's something that happened. You don't say something like "I think my sister is missing a great deal in life in not reconnecting with her father, who had always adored her" The more space between them the better.
/r/MensRights06/02/14 07:43 PM
89

The concept of "rape culture" was originated to describe prison conditions...so yes.
/r/MensRights23/01/14 09:58 PM
-2

So your point is that men are better than women? You're in he wrong subreddit for that. (I hope).
/r/MensRights15/01/14 05:57 PM
2

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/ http://www.economist.com/
/r/MensRights19/12/13 11:56 PM
8

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class
/r/MensRights03/12/13 01:07 AM
0

no. I"m just saying your lack of comprehension is your problem.
/r/MensRights18/11/13 02:53 AM
2

lol. I love how you think the guy should get off because he's so young and too immature to appreciate what he was doing, but the woman that was basically the same age needs to be locked up for life. I think we'd probably be better off if both of them were put away, since they both did some damn crazy things.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 05:52 PM
0

that sounds like a personal problem
/r/MensRights17/11/13 05:40 PM
0

"Budig’s research has shown that women generally make less money for each child they have, even after accounting for factors that would explain a salary reduction, like taking time off for child-rearing " Now, the validity of that finding can be argued with but....
/r/MensRights15/11/13 08:19 PM
1

Obviously she's a bit loony toons, but I wonder if she's the one who wrote the headline, or someone else decided it would make for better clickbait if it was stupider. This is not to say I have become the mad mixed woman in the attic and have cast off all white men. It's also not to say that this can't happen with all races of men -- I just have yet to find an interracial relationship where my difference isn't at the forefront. I have yet to find that guy who hasn't used me to see if sleeping wi…
/r/MensRights15/11/13 07:04 PM
6

If you're going to post about a public report's statistics, you should link to the report in your post.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 06:55 PM
0

I know you are but what am I?
/r/MensRights15/11/13 05:03 PM
-3

You should take some deep breaths.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 04:22 PM
0

He also repeatedly had sex with a 14 year old.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 04:11 PM
1

Ok, how about this one? http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/11/alabama-man-no-prison-time-raping-teenager My point is that there are all kinds of crazy miscarriages of justice out there. I was just curious what kind of sentences you often see for attempted rape. I fully appreciate that the justice system goes much easier on women than men (and white males than black males, etc etc). I just thought it was worth pointing out that it's not ONLY because she's a woman.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 03:57 PM
-6

Larry you better not be violating that probation.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 05:18 AM
-38

She's a cheerleader; I thought it was a fair comparison. This guy also actually completed the rape.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 04:14 AM
-1

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/r/MensRights15/11/13 04:13 AM
1

Bahahahaha, what a clown. That's a fucking huge "phone" too. It's not like she just got the normal model and was surprised at how awkward it was, she got the big-ass one.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 04:05 AM
16

Yes, he is wrong. Feminists are not nazis, european dykes, or whores. This dude is using the language of hate. If he'd said "It's all these fucking idiot feminists, and a jewish conspiracy too" would you be defending him?
/r/MensRights15/11/13 04:02 AM
-41

http://www.hutchnews.com/Localregional/Larry-Frye--12013-10-31T18-18-24 Wowsers.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 04:01 AM
1

Not really an MRA issue. This guy chooses to go through with this, pathetic as it may be. It wouldn't be any different if the genders were reversed. Also this is being reported in a garbage tabloid newspaper, so who knows if its any more real than the invented drama on Jerry Springer.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 03:58 AM
39

Opening with "feminists are fucking idiots" and calling them whores and "european dykes" and Nazis probably isn't really the face MRA wants to put on. He has a valid point about feminists never demanding equality in sentencing, but all the other shit we could do without.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 03:51 AM
1

My point is that nothing that comes out of Sarah Palin's mouth makes any fucking sense anyway. It's like feminists criticizing some shit that Flava Flav said.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 11:59 PM
1

That's surprising. Sarah Palin is such a favorite of modern feminists and generally regarded as an influential person of ideas within that movement.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 09:21 PM
4

suddenly equality NOW? Aren't we all about equality? Isn't the whole point that the women-only clinics, women-only shelters should be available to men?
/r/MensRights14/11/13 06:54 PM
3

Are we holding ourselves to the standards of the people we disagree with, or to the standards we think they should hold themselves to?
/r/MensRights14/11/13 06:53 PM
-7

I think that's good. We ask women to include men and mens issues in particularized issues. It's only fair and good that we do the same. Unite and address the problems of PEOPLE, not just men or just women.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 05:23 PM
2

in my set of Carcassone the only person with any non-white color to their skin in the game art was the thief.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 11:17 PM
0

You're an idiot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfL4xKQeSfo
/r/MensRights08/11/13 03:27 PM
0

So you've come to this particular subreddit and tried to denigrate someone for hypothetically not living up to some masculine ideal? That if I don't fit what you declare I should fit, physically, then I am less of a man and less valued? I think you're in the wrong place.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 03:26 PM
0

What are you trying to say here, buddy?
/r/MensRights08/11/13 03:51 AM
-1

The Humungus The Lord Humungus Warrior of the Wasteland Ayatolla of Rock N Rolla
/r/MensRights08/11/13 03:34 AM
4

this is a pretty bold claim
/r/MensRights08/11/13 02:44 AM
-2

I think that this subreddit is more focused on winning the victim olympics than moving past them.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 02:43 AM
2

Because it's a really complex problem that doesn't have any easy explanations, so you can always make up stories to explain the wage gap. Also it's convenient for their ideology. So basically the same reason MRA's ignore the fact that even if the wage average is affected by a lot of non-sexism factors, there could still be sexism factors creating a (smaller) wage gap. Or that something like "less women hold high-skilled jobs" doesn't mean that sexism isn't part of the reason those women don't ho…
/r/MensRights08/11/13 02:42 AM
2

Thanks pal, but I want to give 110%.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 07:48 PM
3

"The report estimated that around two false rape allegations are made every month in the UK." Huh.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 07:42 PM
1

exactly. and some people are exactly the same in the opposite direction "Lol the Repugs are at it again"
/r/MensRights01/11/13 04:50 AM
2

If you want to convince other people maybe you should learn to speak like an adult.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 03:49 AM
2

When I see someone using so many stupid negative words (ObamaSCARE, UNaffordable Care act, etc etc) then I know they've just come fresh out of an echo chamber from somewhere, and I can only laugh at the stupidity.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 03:05 AM
1

lol
/r/MensRights31/10/13 07:35 PM
2

I've seen statistics like this and the point is usually not "men molest more than women" but "Even the men touching little boys usually present in their non-abusive life as heterosexual, with wife and kids even". It's usually used in response to smears saying homosexuals are all kid-touchers.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 07:34 PM
1

What do you mean?
/r/MensRights30/10/13 02:44 AM
-4

I dunno, if you ask me such facilities should be compared more to prison than other treatment centers (or whatever your preferred term is) for the sake of people at the other treatment centers.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 02:25 AM
-4

no. This wasn't just some "treatment center" this is a secured facility that only houses people put there by the justice system.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 02:18 AM
-7

It's murder of a sympathetic victim?
/r/MensRights30/10/13 12:50 AM
2

Duh. Why do you think we have higher rates of fatal heart disease?
/r/MensRights29/10/13 10:48 PM
2

It's an ignorant circle-jerk video repeating negative stereotypes of MRA and MRA positions so anti-MRA people can circlejerk about it and dismiss everything with cartoonish depictions that don't challenge their views in the least. Kind of like SOME of the content here with respect to feminism.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 10:38 PM
-3

I mean, if you want to create hypotheticals and get mad about them, go ahead. Men are, in general, more likely to get the death penalty, yes. Here's a guy that went to a mental hospital after savagely beating an old man to death. http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=950331
/r/MensRights29/10/13 10:33 PM
0

Unless one is a minor or mentally disabled. and I never said I disagreed with the outcome here.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 10:31 PM
5

If he's in the USA... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
/r/MensRights29/10/13 10:04 PM
-2

I mean, it contributes to a circlejerk, if that's what people want. There should honestly be a MRM circlejerk subreddit to provide a loving home to the SRS-level people.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 09:21 PM
-3

and men get away with violence due to the statute of limitations more frequently than women. Is that "Patriarchy" or is that just the uneven distribution of crime? The issue isn't that people said "Oh wait the person confessing to this crime is a woman, lets let her go" it's just the statute of limitations. If you feel that the statute in this case was designed in order to advantage women, then I guess you know more about German lawmaking than I do.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 09:19 PM
61

Yes, men are punished disproportionately to women (black men especially) Still, a lifetime of imprisonment in secure mental health facilities because you're flipping insane isn't "get away with it". I realize "disproportionately more lenient sentence" isn't as sexy as "got away with it" but it does have the advantage of being true.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 09:15 PM
41

She was sentenced to a high-security mental hospital and is still in a mental hospital (according to quick wikipedia research).
/r/MensRights29/10/13 08:54 PM
21

This article is just garbage from someone that seems very bitter. He basically says all women are bad. Is that the kind of content we want here?
/r/MensRights29/10/13 08:50 PM
0

We don't have different levels of contract validity either. (Well, not for purposes of this discussion) It's either valid or not. And we do have different levels of rape: rape attempted rape statutory rape sexual assault etc etc
/r/MensRights29/10/13 08:46 PM
32

Who drowned 5 kids and got away with it?
/r/MensRights29/10/13 08:43 PM
2

Actually sex isn't the only area where we apply that. If you can show that you were sufficiently incapcitated when you signed a contract (or made a will) and that the other party knew and took advantage of that then you can void that document. Similarly, while a drunk driver (or drunk murderer) is still guilty of a crime, the severity of the criminality may be reduced. I.e. if I shoot you while sober and angry, it may be second degree murder. If I shoot you because I'm so drugged out that I don'…
/r/MensRights29/10/13 08:26 PM
-2

Look up "Mens Rea" if you want to play about with Latin. She "lied throughout" ? What did she lie about?
/r/MensRights29/10/13 08:15 PM
-3

Keep putting words in my mouth and then arguing with statements I didn't make. It'll be fun for you.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 07:59 PM
0

No, no it's not. She deserves punishment. As does her mother, probably. I'm just saying that's what happens when there's a statute of limitations on a crime. Some guy could beat me and leave me in a wheelchair, then confess to it 20 years later, and get away with it for the same reason. It's not a gendered issue.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 07:58 PM
-2

No, there's a third test: capability to consent. It's why child molestation/statutory rape is still a crime even if they say yes. Or why someone that has been drugged but is still awake cannot consent.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 07:54 PM
-1

Just this account and my gonewild account, buddybear. Continue your paranoid fantasies though.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 07:52 PM
-4

There's nothing there saying "the school may still punish the young man for sexual assault" it is just "may be punished". The post article just says "students may still be punished" and cites concern about their drinking from the school official. I never said anything about the school punishing the woman for sexual assault. Words matter dude. If you're going to be a writer, you need to realize it. If the quote is about punishing "the students" then it means the school considers they both did som…
/r/MensRights29/10/13 07:52 PM
-5

Well to say that we'd have to decide what incapacitated means. Is it only if you're so out of it you can't stand up? Or just if your judgment is a little unsound? Or somewhere in between, where you'd make potentially harmful decisions (like say public sex). I'm not saying that this was sexual assault, I think the outcome (so far) was the correct one. I'm just saying that you can't just look at a video and decide what someone's state of mind was, beyond determining that she wasn't unconscious or …
/r/MensRights29/10/13 07:43 PM
-5

Ah, so you're going through my comments now because I criticized a small aspect of an article you wrote? Cool beans, carry on.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 07:39 PM
-1

No, I just had a reaction to "school may still punish the young man", which would be sexist and upsetting, typed up a little comment about it and went to the post article to get more info on what the school had said, and felt I'd been misled into thinking the school was behaving in a sexist manner and only targeting the man. It wouldn't surprise me at all if that's what ended up happening, but I have a personal policy of only reacting to things that actually happen.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 07:38 PM
-1

maybe she always hated him and wouldn't have done it any other night. That was supposed to mean she wouldn't have done if it she hadn't been so drunk, indicating that she was incapacitated. Which is surely a possibility, yeah?
/r/MensRights29/10/13 07:35 PM
-8

Well I guess you win the "who cares less" award then.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 07:28 PM
1

I think it's a pretty important distinction between the newspaper report and the COTWA description of what OU is looking at.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 07:05 PM
-15

Are we talking about hurting feelings or finding someone guilty of the crime of falsely accusing someone when they told the truth but were wrong about legal definitions? and we don't know what motivated her. Maybe she had a boyfriend and he found out, maybe the guy that hooked up with her was a dick about it, maybe she always hated him and wouldn't have done it any other night. Maybe while she slept it off she had a god damn religious vision that told her she was a dirty slut. WE don't know, peo…
/r/MensRights29/10/13 05:40 PM
-4

I don't think that is established even by the facts as you stated them. But you are free to go believe whatever you want.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 05:32 PM
-16

What facts of her complaint (which I guess you've read since you have such an authoritative opinion on it) didn't stand up under scrutiny? Enthusiastic Participation is vitiated by inability to consent. If she felt that she wouldn't have consented without being so drunk, her claim isn't in the wrong, even if the legal authorities determine that they don't think she was over that threshold. I'm all for punishing false accusers, but we just don't have enough information here to know what is approp…
/r/MensRights29/10/13 05:25 PM
5

Nevertheless, despite all of this, Ohio University is still thinking of punishing the young man. We have an internal process that we’re following and this kind of information — well much of this — may make it into our investigation,” said Vice President for Student Affairs Ryan Lombardi. President Roderick McDavis has previously said that the school would conduct its own investigation into the public sex act. If the punishment is for anything other than underage drinking and behaving like a fuck…
/r/MensRights29/10/13 05:15 PM
16

Right after they apologize for the whole Iraq war thing.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 05:12 PM
12

It wouldn't be a false report if she didn't lie, felt it was rape, but was legally incorrect. Just like if you call and report your car stolen but it was legally towed, you didn't file a false report.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 05:12 PM
3

What it says about women as a whole is that the whole contains a subgroup that those techniques work on.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 05:03 PM
2

if you attach rollers to the bottom dragging is less hard on the lower parts
/r/MensRights29/10/13 05:00 PM
1

and it's a 10 year old poster for a discontinued campaign, interestingly enough. I don't know if the new campaign will be substantially different, though. http://mencanstoprape.blogspot.com/2011/12/saying-goodbye-to-my-strength-is-not.html
/r/MensRights29/10/13 04:46 PM
2

I'm going to guess it's somehow related to http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1perth/examples_of_femaleonmale_sexism_in_geekdom/
/r/MensRights29/10/13 04:41 PM
5

It's Germany though, who knows what their legal system is like. I have no idea.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 04:30 PM
1

wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. give her the chair
/r/MensRights29/10/13 04:25 PM
-4

Welcome to r/mensrights (or any subreddit, really)
/r/MensRights29/10/13 04:19 PM
1

If you read the last paragraph a false accuser that was discovered in a shorter amount of time did in fact go to jail.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 04:11 PM
6

also: "Sign this and we'll give you $500"
/r/MensRights29/10/13 03:46 PM
1

Well that's fucked up, but that happens when you have a statute of limitations.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 03:44 PM
9

Except withdrawing them means incriminating yourself. She could only be legally compelled to admit they were false if she were granted immunity.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 03:43 PM
1

Are you saying that as long as someone is still awake they can consent, no matter how incapacitated they are?
/r/MensRights29/10/13 02:22 PM
1

It's mentioned in the article you're responding to and quoting from.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 02:14 PM
3

Didn't he call her a "fucking idiot" during the interview?
/r/MensRights29/10/13 06:03 AM
2

Pretty reasonable argument to be made there.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 05:45 AM
3

Nope. I said to myself "this sounds like exactly the kind of self-justification from pedophiles I was talking about" and looked at his thread history to see if I could confirm my suspicions (BEFORE I called him a pedophile). Just lucky I guess.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 05:41 AM
4

http://www.reddit.com/r/howtonotgiveafuck/comments/1lzn6f/how_do_i_not_give_a_fuck_about_my_parents_knowing/
/r/MensRights29/10/13 05:17 AM
1

Yeah. In no way do I condone vigilante justice, even against suspected pedophiles. I"m done here anyway.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 03:14 AM
1

Like I said above, some pedophiles will do anything to rationalize it. Here's one such case.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 02:41 AM
0

I think someone who legitimately finds the idea of raping someone arousing is a hazard for raping someone, yes. I didn't say anything about locking people up for thought crime. A teenager that finds people their own age sexually attractive is not a pedophile and aren't labeled as such. You're being silly, basically.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 01:16 AM
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Sounds like the guy brought it up. (although frequently in advice columns like this the columnist just makes up questions she wants to talk about). She doesn't say it's what everyone should do, so much as "it's a nice thing to do if you're worried about that" also it's funny to see Yoffe back on the radar.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 12:15 AM
-1

combine the two though. Road accidents affect children, although not exclusively children, but who do we blame? Hard to make an easy-to-hate group about it. People hated jews etc because it's an easy unpopular group, but because they weren't actually DOING anything (2) they didn't rise to the same level.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 12:13 AM
4

What he's probably talking about is that many of the same forums where you'll see "that 300lb woman is FABULOUS" will also respond with "Those people criticizing that 300lb woman are probably neckbeard virgins in fedoras". i.e. it's just a double standard for who can be criticized and how.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 10:45 PM
0

I don't think Scalzi is being sexist. He talks about men creeping on women, but he also talks about creeping in general, which is something lots of sci-fi authors (them in particular because of the type of people that are sci-fi fans and also the convention culture around sci-fi) deal with: weirdo fans that don't realize they're being awful to their favorite authors (see harlan ellison's Xenogensis essay, if you can find it, for a brutal talk about this) What do you find so insulting about that …
/r/MensRights28/10/13 10:42 PM
1

strange
/r/MensRights28/10/13 10:27 PM
1

What sort of activity? Having sex with someone so drunk they end up passed out on the sidewalk afterwards? I'd say that person cannot consent at that point so it's rape is someone has sex with them, and it's totally appropriate for that to be outlawed and punished.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 10:15 PM
4

I'm saying that we shouldn't have a nuanced critique of how an article's content doesn't match the headline, we should just fill in our own assumptions that fit with what we want to talk about and then circlejerk about it. It's much easier that way.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 10:04 PM
1

Yeah your big hurdle is going to be avoiding being viewed as advocating male supremacy or just being opposed to feminism. Start out with inoffensive things like "Good fathers, good sons" "schools are failing boys" or something. Reach out to feminist groups to work together on things, too. "Homelessness affects men AND women, lets work together on this" I think in general Mens Rights could benefit a lot from more effort on mens issues and less hostile confrontations with feminists, but every grou…
/r/MensRights28/10/13 10:01 PM
1

It sounds like you have some serious issues on your hands here. Ultimatums are not a healthy way for her to handle things. Are you being confrontational with her or is she just crazy?
/r/MensRights28/10/13 09:57 PM
-1

I agree that this doesn't seem like a rape, but I think it's fair to say that these people were pretty incapacitated. Someone with capacity doesn't pass out on the sidewalk: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2462551/Passersbys-photos-videos-woman-raped-sidewalk-Ohio.html
/r/MensRights28/10/13 09:52 PM
4

or when both parties are equally in the wrong you don't charge anyone
/r/MensRights28/10/13 09:50 PM
7

whoa whoa buddy, lets just read the headline and fill in our own assumptions instead, and then have a nice circlejerk.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 09:42 PM
-3

I don't KNOW the answer to that question. There are lots of people on the internet that have really strange opinions. The child molesters I've heard from (mostly in documentaries about the catholic church) try to rationalize their actions in some way so they aren't wrong. I'm just trying to make sure we're working from the same moral base here, that a sex act between an adult and a child is wrong and victimizes the child.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 08:49 PM
2

People are probably hysterical in their hatred of it because: 1) It's an easy one to disapprove of. Everyone can gang up and hate on the weirdo 2) It affects children, who everyone will stick up for. So there there you have some nice mobbing behavior. Everyone can hate on one side and protect on the other. Then you have the fact that child molesters are legitimately scary predators. If someone does act on their pedophile urgers, they tend to get away with it, since children won't talk about it a…
/r/MensRights28/10/13 08:46 PM
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I think it's fair to look down on someone for a stated persistent desire to victimize someone and commit a crime. If someone said to me "boy I have just always wanted to kill a police officer. I'm never going to do it, but I love the idea of it and think about it frequently" I would think that person is somewhat of a villain. Too bad if he was just "born that way" or cannot help that that's what he wants. I appreciate that some people are just defective and really want to victimize people, but t…
/r/MensRights28/10/13 08:39 PM
-4

Yes, pedophiles have a rough time and shouldn't be treated exactly the same as child molestors. However, they do have, be definition, a desire to do something that is wrong and harmful to people. Kind of like a "violent psychopath" isn't the same thing as a "murderer" but also isn't the same thing as a homosexual.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 08:22 PM
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We're talking about a misdemeanor crime vs. a felony though. I'm just pointing out that the analogy distorts the discussion. I think Homosexuals have a hard enough time as it is without being constantly lumped in with pedophiles.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 07:56 PM
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Not exactly the same, since a pedophile has an innate urge to do something that is a serious crime, even if he/she has not done it, whereas a homosexual just wants to do something that some people don't approve of.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 05:56 PM
1

I didn't say TWO people get black out drunk. I said one person gets blackout drunk and people have sex with that person when they don't know where they are.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 03:53 PM
4

This has nothing to do with mensrights. It's just some guy bitterly abusing a woman he doesn't know and projecting his views of the world onto her public and possibly annoying relationships.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 03:22 PM
0

If I"m not mistaken, latex-free condoms (which have regularly been mentioned here) are not as good at most forms of protection (std and baby), so keep that in mind.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 02:44 PM
4

It doesn't sound like you have a very healthy relationship in general.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 02:39 PM
5

Easily Snyder's weakest effort. The script was just garbage. There were individual moments of brilliance/neat ideas, but yeah.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 05:56 AM
4

Just out of curiosity, I looked it up. Forbes only lists 4 total billionaires under 30, and one of them would be 30 or older by now since this article is a bit out of date. http://www.forbes.com/pictures/eimh45lhg/no-1-dustin-moskovitz/ So that's interesting.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 05:48 AM
3

This study has all the same flaws (not comparing similar groups, not accounting for hours worked etc etc) as the 80% wage gap study that people here love to kick around for being a pretty bad measure of the wage gap.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 04:33 AM
5

not many of them. There are actually very few billionaires in general.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 04:32 AM
1

I didn't say I was giving a comprehensive list of every instance of rape culture in the United States. I was just giving two examples that I felt reasonable people wouldn't not argue with. There's also groups of women and men that think 15 year old boys cannot be raped by their attractive female teachers because "the boy is probably a hero to his friends" and groups of gay dudes that fuck other dudes that are blasted out of their minds on club drugs. I understand that you're looking for a fight,…
/r/MensRights28/10/13 03:49 AM
2

that really depends on the wiki.... the piont of some wikis is that anyone WITHIN THE PROTECTED GROUP AND GENERALLY HARBORING APPROVED OPINIONS can contribute to the discussion, but we can exclude people who don't meet those criteria. See also: http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page
/r/MensRights27/10/13 06:14 PM
2

You've distorted the content of the article you linked. The author says he doesn't use the term Rape Culture because he doesn't think it's very helpful etc etc, and he calls for action on reducing the number of rapes that occur, while saying Feminists ignore the success that he demonstrates has happened in reducing rapes in the last 40 years. What are you even angry about?
/r/MensRights26/10/13 11:03 PM
1

what are you even responding to?
/r/MensRights26/10/13 11:02 PM
10

I think this is a strawman, but you DID kill the shit out of the strawman, so good job. Sorry your girlfriend wasn't very undersanding, though.
/r/MensRights26/10/13 10:51 PM
4

This was posted here: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1p8epj/theres_no_rape_culture/ That video is a bit rambly/ranty. Anyway, there IS rape culture in the USA. The term was originally used to describe the strange things that happen in prison, and it's still an accurate descriptor there. In prison it's totally acceptable for someone to violently rape someone else, to say they did so publicly, and they are still welcomed into that society. So there is a culture there that expressly co…
/r/MensRights26/10/13 10:51 PM
2

So wait, you're using scare quotes and saynig they're crying wolf, implying you don't think harassment on public transportation happens? What world do you live in? In Chicago, at least, the trains are frequently an "adventure," especially if you're white, especially if you're alone, and especially if you're a woman. Women aren't alone in receiving harassment, even if they do get the worst of it. That doesn't mean "women only" cars on trains are the best solution. That said, I've never seen anyon…
/r/MensRights26/10/13 05:14 PM
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Yes, I think you're being unreasonable. You don't think that within prison culture it's totally acceptable to be a rapist? Or that society at large basically condones prison rape "because they deserve it"? You're moving the goalposts by saying it's only "rape culture" if the society doesn't punish rape and celebrates it. I mean it's fine if you want to have your own private definition of words so you can say things do or don't exist, but it's not very productive to a discussion based around a di…
/r/MensRights26/10/13 02:27 PM
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That video is a bit rambly/ranty. Anyway, there IS rape culture in the USA. The term was originally used to describe the strange things that happen in prison, and it's still an accurate descriptor there. In prison it's totally acceptable for someone to violently rape someone else, to say they did so publicly, and they are still welcomed into that society. So there is a culture there that expressly condones rape. Furthermore, a large part of society at large is mostly OK with this rape. If there'…
/r/MensRights26/10/13 07:44 AM
1

That's probably for the best.
/r/MensRights26/10/13 03:45 AM
2

I find it's best to only get upset about things that actually happened.
/r/MensRights25/10/13 08:53 PM
1

I give it an 8/10. Solid chuckle but no more. I think you're wasting your time if you're trying to get worked up about this.
/r/MensRights25/10/13 08:28 PM
1

I bet if you go look as cosmopolitan magazine you can find some dumb shit too.... What's the point?
/r/MensRights20/10/13 12:02 AM
1

9th ward don't pay
/r/MensRights19/10/13 03:59 PM
3

Just look at his website: http://jayehill.com/ If I had to guess the content of this guy's speech at this meeting it's going to be "Don't listen to that rap music calling women bitches and telling you to do drugs and shoot people, calling a woman a bitch isn't going to get you a loving wife, doing drugs and shooting people isn't going to get you on a Godly path and make you a proper disciple." Which is whatever...
/r/MensRights18/10/13 11:38 PM
10

I think, from the limited information you have provided, that you are overreacting. The statement is "issues of masculinity that often promote misogynistic" Surely you wouldn't argue that there are common and hurtful aspects to what are often seen as traditional aspects of "masculinity". It's frequently talked about here how much men that need support/help are hurt when they're told instead to "be a man" and swallow their emotions/help themselves. Similarly, I hope you can see how images of masc…
/r/MensRights18/10/13 11:35 PM
4

This is hardly a unifying theory, it's a very interesting result but that title is so far beyond the content that it's a bit disappointing.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 11:23 PM
7

Correct. In 2011, the rate of work related injuries for men was 128/10 000 and 104/10 000 for women. Nurses are the women most likely to be injured. Nursing is one of the only really useful things that women do, Not quite
/r/MensRights18/10/13 11:16 PM
16

"Nursing is one of the only really useful things that women do" whoa whoa whoa what is this?
/r/MensRights18/10/13 10:23 PM
2

I don't see the message to MRAs here.
/r/MensRights17/10/13 08:02 PM
1

I don't think OP has thought very hard about this question.
/r/MensRights19/01/13 06:22 PM
1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea
/r/MensRights19/01/13 06:22 PM
1

So hard to find good hired help these days.
/r/MensRights17/12/12 12:02 AM
1

why would this get downvoted?
/r/MensRights15/12/12 09:59 PM
4

a big part of PUA thought is treating women like interchangable sex tools, turning their insecurities against them, and not caring about their personalities or minds at all. I can totally understand why women would hate PUAs.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 09:57 PM
1

Where do you live? I live in Chicago. I live on the north side, I've lived on the south side. I ride the trains almost every day. Women are catcalled daily there. It's normal and endorsed by a large segment of the culture. I have a number of female friends, who are also catcalled daily. Another example of "Harassment culture" is the foodservice/bartending industry (again where many of my friends work). Chefs are in great majority male, and occupy a position above the majority female waitstaff an…
/r/MensRights14/12/12 11:18 PM
1

yeah nothing against YOU. Just what the thread is going to be used for.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 10:09 PM
1

I expected to be downvoted because I was talking about this thead (which serves no real point except as a self-congratulatory hate circlejerk about how this subreddit is so much better than feminists/that other subreddit) then I realized the comment pretty much applies equally to a lot of the content on r/feminism so people HERE probably assumed I was talking about THERE. Oh well.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 09:53 PM
1

I have trouble with seeing rape culture in general (there's certainly a rape culture inside US prisons) but if you don't think there's a harassment culture I don't know where you live. Women on the street get yelled at by men. This is a DAILY fact of life for them. It's accepted behavior for tons of men, who do this in front of their friends, and have their friends join in. Do you really think this doesn't happen? Or what?
/r/MensRights14/12/12 09:35 PM
2

What's pathetic here?
/r/MensRights14/12/12 09:33 PM
2

HATE CIRCLEJERK WOOOOO
/r/MensRights14/12/12 09:10 PM
0

What is this I don't even
/r/MensRights14/12/12 02:56 AM
-2

It's also probably worse to be a homeless woman than a homeless man, and if I'm not mistaken, drug addiction and serious mental illness is more common in men than in women.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 09:03 PM
2

Easy. While the man is unconscious you put your penis inside of him.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 08:47 PM
6

If I"m not mistaken the original use of the term "Rape Culture" was in describing the culture of american prisons, which inarguable have a culture of sexual violence where rape is a normalized and accepted activity.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 08:38 PM
-1

For sure. Because it's awkward to be associated with some of the people here.
/r/MensRights20/05/11 09:35 PM
2

What the fuck are you talking about?
/r/MensRights20/05/11 09:29 PM
1

Someone has never been to r/guns...
/r/MensRights20/05/11 09:25 PM
0

Funny, but why is this in mensrights?
/r/MensRights20/11/10 02:12 AM
-1

They serve the useful purpose of letting people think all feminists are complete whackjobs, so I expect they'll be allowed to stick around.
/r/MensRights22/07/10 07:16 PM
5

How often do you call the police when you find a woman as a private citizen? It's a pretty reasonable inference that she was in some sort of sorry state if it caused someone to call the cops and the cops to investigate what had happened to her.
/r/MensRights07/07/10 08:05 AM
8

You know what happens when you assume... According to the story the woman was found (apparently drugged) and claimed no recollection of what happened. When you find a woman wandering around in a stupor and can trace her back to a man's home that she has no normal connection to... rapist or drug dealer seems likely.
/r/MensRights07/07/10 03:46 AM
14

There's nothing in the story about the woman claiming to have been raped.
/r/MensRights07/07/10 02:59 AM
3

But I love vienna sausage festival. The pork sausage was so good.
/r/MensRights23/06/10 04:09 AM
-1

Yo where are the chicks? This party is a total sausage festival.
/r/MensRights23/06/10 03:52 AM
1

well the testing methodology for the IQ tests has been questioned quite a bit. and I said "women are inherently worse at basketball" that's a statement about a group. and I'd say chances are low that a significant number of women on a pick-up team are better than the men
/r/MensRights11/09/09 04:42 AM
2

Actually in this case it meant early belt promotions for her and entering advanced women's divisions ahead of what would be a 'normal' schedule for someone. Poe's law though, I like it. Thanks.
/r/MensRights10/09/09 09:18 PM
2

Because she will eliminate all men with her powers of grappling! Just screwing around on the usual women vs. men stuff you see here.
/r/MensRights10/09/09 09:12 PM
2

http://www.graciemag.com/news/149/ARTICLE/6895/5/2007-04-17.html
/r/MensRights10/09/09 05:07 PM
1

The range of situations in which you can stand on someones head in a fight without falling over is pretty limited, so I don't think it's really a problem. Standing on faces to escape an armbar isn't commonly done because it'd be very easy to sweep the stander onto their back and finish them off. You'd really be surprised at the amount of punishment a skull can take without bursting like a grape (the Mauricio Rua/Cyrille Diabate fight comes to my mind). In any case, one counter that works is to p…
/r/MensRights10/09/09 04:17 PM
1

Girl's website: http://www.hillarybjj.com/
/r/MensRights10/09/09 04:02 PM
2

1) This isn't MMA, just grappling, since no striking is allowed 2) In MMA in most leagues it's not legal to stomp someone's head, but it would be legal to stand on it in most.
/r/MensRights10/09/09 04:01 PM
2

submission wrestling competition. The goal is to make the other person give up through some kind of hold, either a choke or a joint lock. Hillary Williams is a good competitor (and nice girl) that really trashes women's divisions and enters mens divisions for additional competition and does well there too.
/r/MensRights10/09/09 03:59 PM
1

The problem with your job position situation is that you're taking something that's true of a group and applying it to individuals. Perhaps some of those film directors are Math Phds? and, again, I'd find it objectionable for you to say something like that about blacks because a) people that say that usually have some sort of other agenda b) it's not well understood. It's not really that hard to quantify the men/women sports thing. Look at olympic records, professional sports, etc. Look at how w…
/r/MensRights10/09/09 01:44 PM
1

Again, a woman that can beat most men (51%) at a sport is a very extraordinary woman, whereas a man that can do that is just slightly above-average. That would make me think Men are better than Women at the sport under discussion. Would you find it objectionable if I said physicists are better at math than film directors?
/r/MensRights10/09/09 06:13 AM
0

Also, something I always like to link to when these discussions come up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StBSvfcuQrQ
/r/MensRights10/09/09 05:18 AM
2

The scientific explanation for the increased violence among blacks is still in the wind, so it would really depend on how you couched the generality. one in twenty men is over six feet tall. one in a thousand women is. This is like taking exception to me saying "18 year olds are better athletes than 90 year olds" because there are a tiny minority of 18 year olds with spinal injuries or 90 year olds that are ultramarathoners. In broad strokes the statement is true, even if it doesn't apply in eve…
/r/MensRights10/09/09 05:16 AM
-1

women in general are worse in basketball (strength/speed/height) if we play a game of 3 on 3 (billion) I'd take the men, every time. these uneven rules are so women can overcome that and still be a valued part of a co-ed team. I don't know if I completely agree with that as a policy, but I see where they're coming from. vaguely related: http://www.psy.fsu.edu/~baumeistertice/goodaboutmen.htm
/r/MensRights10/09/09 04:46 AM
1

Women are inherently worse at basketball.
/r/MensRights10/09/09 02:16 AM
1

I think this should be crossposted to /r/mypussyhurts
/r/MensRights10/09/09 12:06 AM
7

On the one hand, she has no obligation to provide sex for her husband if she feels no attraction to him anymore. If she stopped there, I could sympathize with her BUT expecting him to accept this and not cheat, while simultaneously going behind his back and humiliating him like this, I think 'cunt' is the only word for it.
/r/MensRights21/08/09 11:33 PM
6

Downvoted for not being related to mens rights aside from woman bashing. Also, if mensrights as a group is serious about advocating for equal rights for me, using terms like "stupid blonde" is very counterproductive.
/r/MensRights10/06/09 10:51 PM
3

You can read the full quote in context here, in which case it really isn't that objectionable, in my white, male opinion. http://mediamatters.org/research/200905260050
/r/MensRights27/05/09 11:20 PM
1

Yes. I'm inclined to believe that the man should have noticed something, especially since there are numerous other allegations against him, but I'm also inclined to think that the woman certainly didn't do everything in her power to make it clear to him.
/r/MensRights25/03/09 12:21 AM
-3

"I felt like I was screaming and saying, 'No, no, no!' I probably was at the beginning." The fact that I ended up in hospital because it was not consensual meant that this was clearly an aggressive act." These two would lead me to believe the man should have known something was up.
/r/MensRights24/03/09 07:35 PM
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