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"Come on bro don't be racist, be SEXIST"
/r/PussyPassDenied15/06/17 08:55 AM
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There's nothing more embarrassing and pathetic than a man who is so weak and limp-wristed that he sees feminism (and women and general) as a threat. I bet I could draw a picture of you just based on this post. Out of shape, genderless, unattractive (balding and covering it badly?), droopy face, hangdog expression. Red pill indeed. No, the "end game of feminism" isn't state ownership of men. That's your own little creepy humiliation fantasy.
/r/MensRights23/07/15 12:41 AM
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The best way to respond to it is not to respond to it. It doesn't seem to call for any response. It's just a self-righteous, slightly cheesy but mostly well-meaning copypasta rant. No point in arguing with it. As for what to think of it, I can tell you my opinion. I think it's correct. Girls are put in that position all the time, and it's unfortunate. As a man (and someone who spends a fair amount of time interacting with and trying to understand women), I think it's a good idea to understand th…
/r/seduction23/08/12 08:38 AM
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I like this a lot. I'm going to try it tonight.
/r/seduction09/11/11 09:08 AM
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Are people having more fun after you approached them than they were before? If yes, you are giving value.
/r/seduction04/11/11 10:47 AM
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I agree completely with everything you said here, except "follow up game is overrated". I'd rather work and work and bag one HB10 than get a dozen HB8s that put up less resistance. That's a personal preference, though. I don't want more girls, I want better ones.
/r/seduction04/11/11 10:46 AM
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If I don't know a girl well enough yet, I do the same thing. I'm too much of a grammar nazi to follow the OP's examples and end a question with a period. But I frequently just send it with no question mark. what are you up to today are you coming tomorrow hey did you call me ...and so forth. Once the girl knows me well enough to read it in my voice anyway, then I don't bother with that: I write full sentences, with lots of smileys. I'm in japan so it's not uncommon for a text to consist of > 40%…
/r/seduction04/11/11 10:36 AM
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You should. It's quite therapeutic.
/r/seduction04/11/11 03:04 AM
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miserable son-of-a-bitch I'm always like that. It keeps me motivated :P Personally I haven't looked at TokyoSeddit since you made naga14 the moderator. No clue what you were thinking about with that one.
/r/seduction03/11/11 04:53 AM
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Good people does not necessarily mean good moderator. He thinks he's suddenly the editor of the subforum and it's his job to decide what gets seen and what doesn't. The reality is we have a thing called upvotes and downvotes to do that, and all he needs to do is shut his pie hole and clear the spam filter from time to time. And if he wants to play with the sidebar when he's at it, then great. But it's not his job to delete posts that people have put time and effort into writing just because they…
/r/seduction03/11/11 04:49 AM
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...continued As it turned out, she did text me... seven days later. And it was a one or two-word noncommittal answer to something I had written her days before. The Thursday that I had time-bridged for had already come and gone. This was straight out of the text game materials I'd been reading. They called this type of girl a "slow burn". She's willing to respond, and will flirt, but she's very, very, very slow about it. Normally I'd probably have gotten frustrated and either flooded her with te…
/r/seduction02/11/11 11:57 PM
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I'm not asking anything. It's a follow-up to previous posts.
/r/seduction02/11/11 11:31 PM
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Playing your position is also important in game. Focus on what she sees, not what you feel about yourself.
/r/seduction02/11/11 08:06 AM
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ring ring ring Yeah? <$NAME>, we broke up. If you're asking me to take you back, it's not going to happen over the phone. Show up at my place tomorrow after work and we can talk about it then. You'd better be ready to do some explaining. No? Then there's no reason for you to be calling me. I'm a little busy, so I'm going to hang up now. Bye. Click.
/r/seduction11/07/11 06:28 PM
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I'm amazed that I haven't already been doing this.
/r/seduction05/07/11 07:47 AM
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Looks fade, and what's left will be basically the same no matter who you choose. Most people are pretty much the same in the long run. In any marriage, everything that initially attracted you to the girl will fade in a few decades. Hopefully by then you'll have found new things to like about them. But that's not something you can know ahead of time. So looks are as good a criterion as any.
/r/seduction01/07/11 01:44 AM
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Well you're free to rate girls however you want. For me, when I'm talking about a 7 or a 10, I'm talking only about looks. And I've dated girls that I consider physically perfect, bullshit detector notwithstanding. These are girls who outshone every other girl at every single venue I brought them to, and made the girlfriends and wives of famous people and celebrities pale in comparison. I would have been willing to give up the game for good and commit to any of these girls. Hence they absolutely…
/r/seduction30/06/11 05:41 AM
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you will never find a woman to be better [looking] than this one Yes, and? Sometimes that is the case. Sometime a girl is flawless. That doesn't mean there can't be more than one 10, or 10s of different kinds. Natalie Portman is a 10. I've dated 10s. Call them 9.9s if you want to leave "room" for someone "better" if that makes you happy, but to me that's just silly. If they're hot enough for you to call them 9.9s, then I say call them 10s and be done with it. For me, a 10 is a girl that I would …
/r/seduction30/06/11 02:53 AM
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Voted you up, got to the line about being "alpha" and voted you down, got to the PS and voted you up again and added you to my friends list. Emotional roller coaster, would ride again.
/r/seduction30/06/11 02:48 AM
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God, this is so true, and it's exactly why I hate being flaked on. I know for a fact that she doesn't have a cold, she didn't have something urgent come up. She just looked at her day ahead and decided to skip the part where she pretties herself up to go and see me. I hate knowing that I spent all that time working on a girl and I didn't get my hooks in deep enough to get her to bother to see me. And it happens to me a lot lately. I think my problem is exactly what you said earlier: I'm not maki…
/r/seduction29/06/11 06:10 AM
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Start speaking about feelings, not facts. Look for the emotion underneath the facts. This is exactly what I needed to read right now. I'm going out tonight with this in mind.
/r/seduction29/06/11 05:49 AM
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That sounds horrible. Just make a light sarcastic one-liner about something in her profile. Or ask her to prove she's not fat. No matter what she writes back, ask her to meet you for drinks. All of your messages should be 10 words or less. I could show you albums full of hot women I've landed from okcupid and similar sites this way. Some of them had to fly across an ocean to visit me. Your messages should be quick and piercing, like bullets. Save the essays for your profile. She'll read them onc…
/r/seduction28/06/11 10:30 PM
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I do have a similar problem. I sleep with all of my attractive female friends, which sort of makes things difficult in the long term. There's a phrase in Japanese to the effect that you should use a shrimp to catch a bass. It's a mistake to eat every shrimp you get your hands on. But I tend to do it anyway, alas.
/r/seduction19/06/11 12:05 PM
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It's not the same, but I recently had a drunk British guy try to cockblock me by pulling my target's arm while we were in line to get drinks and saying "he's not buying you a drink? he's not a gentleman. he should be buying your drink". I just looked at him with a little smile and said nothing. The girl didn't say anything either and he eventually went back to his table. Later I saw him passed out on the floor as I was leaving with the girl. I find the best strategy for cockblockers with bad gam…
/r/seduction19/06/11 12:01 PM
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She's testing you for friendzone material. Set a time constraint for your meeting this weekend, go in and build attraction, then leave on a high note. She'll change her tune.
/r/seduction19/06/11 11:45 AM
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I can attest that I've had success with this exact approach, once on the train and once with a girl who was out to dinner with her mom and little brother. Walk up, introduce yourself, give the number, and say goodbye. If you pull it off right, the girl spends the rest of the day thinking about you, and tells all her friends about it. After that, the day 2 is in the bag.
/r/seduction18/06/11 06:39 AM
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If you're credulous enough to believe in Myers-Briggs scores, you might as well also believe in palm reading.
/r/seduction17/06/11 07:06 AM
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Princess Bride used to be my go-to date movie, but girls aged 20 to 23 will no longer sit through it. Fucking kids don't know a good movie when they see one. Young girls want to watch Harry Potter, but fuck that shit. Pirates of the Caribbean, maybe.
/r/seduction16/06/11 01:03 PM
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It's similar to why most comedians are not very good looking, I think. If you have to work to win people over, you get better at it.
/r/seduction16/06/11 12:49 PM
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Approach anyway. Tell the girl you're broke and ask her to buy you lunch. She'll say no, but so what?
/r/seduction16/06/11 06:49 AM
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I'm almost always in the bottom 50% for attractiveness in most bars, and it's not uncommon at all for me to walk out with the most beautiful girl there. In most cases she was talking to a more attractive guy when I met her. Looks matter, but not nearly as much as you might think. In the first few seconds it might work against you, but if you come across as confident and happy with how you look, girls will subconsciously re-evaluate you upward.
/r/seduction16/06/11 06:41 AM
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Your opener could be "garbba garba hooo" for all it matters. It doesn't matter what you say. The only reason I personally would avoid Harry Potter jokes is that I'd much rather not know if the girl is a Harry Potter fan. If she's cute, she probably is, but it's a huge turnoff.
/r/seduction15/06/11 12:16 PM
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Only shitty girls do that. Don't mimic them. Most girls will just smile and say "I'm going to get a drink" or "I'm going to the bathroom" and never come back. Maybe try that. ;)
/r/seduction14/06/11 05:40 AM
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let me guess. you're in Japan
/r/seduction13/06/11 09:17 AM
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When she said that, he was leaving. Hold me means get back here and make out with me.
/r/seduction13/06/11 08:32 AM
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My advice is to just be (mostly) honest with her. Tell her you're interested in her but you want to take it slow, that you don't like sleeping with girls until you know them very well. You've told her you're not looking for a girlfriend, so that's fine. Now just make sure she knows you are in fact attracted to her and you want to keep hanging out. It sounds like when she said "it wasn't fun for me", that was her feeling rejected. When you said "I'm busy tonight", it reinforced that in her mind. …
/r/seduction13/06/11 07:45 AM
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I'm starting to think the sedditors who are in Japan actually outnumber the rest. How did that happen?
/r/seduction13/06/11 07:37 AM
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I laughed. I have been on a few vader dates in my time, no doubt.
/r/seduction13/06/11 07:33 AM
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She was straight up asking you to have sex with her, and you didn't do it. Of course she's going to be confused and frustrated by that. She's yours for the taking. Just say "come over tonight" and get laid. What's the difficulty? And why are you calling her a bitch?
/r/seduction13/06/11 07:26 AM
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Better yet: "don't eat the broccoli. The poison is in the broccoli." Then wink three times and run for the door. If she chases you, F-close in the bushes. Then tell her you're an alien and she should expect to give birth to the chosen one in 9 months. Then throw a smoke bomb and run.
/r/seduction13/06/11 05:43 AM
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I agree with the sentiment and all. But out of curiosity, what would be one of the million possible explanations for asking a waiter at Denny's to give you tupperware?
/r/seduction13/06/11 05:41 AM
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A guy did this to me in a club recently. I brought two girls into the club and the guy was going for my target so I just kind of kept positioning myself between them. Finally he had enough and kind of bumped into me from behind, so I just kind of leaned back on him. He went apeshit and grabbed my shirt. I just looked him right in the eye with a big smile and said "what? fight? hit me. hit me. go on. hit me". He did nothing, and eventually bouncers came. This happened in Japan and the other guy w…
/r/seduction13/06/11 02:59 AM
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Hmm. Let's see here. More bunk Psychology translated into fashion-magazine horoscope fodder. Some of the points are obvious, and the rest are wrong (or dubious at best). But what the hell. Upvote.
/r/seduction12/06/11 04:41 AM
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My solution is to just laugh and turn it into a hug, or kiss her hand, or do something playful. Next time, when she's warmed up more, I look at her and point to my cheek while leaning away. "Come here, kiss me". If she does more than a peck, I just keep her close and turn my head for another kiss on the mouth. If it's just a peck, then I treat it as a normal compliance test (passed) and keep escalating. If she won't even kiss me on the cheek, then I'm doing something very wrong.
/r/seduction12/06/11 04:15 AM
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It is true that shorter girls tend to have bigger vaginas. The reason is that throughout human evolution people with genes for a smaller stature were more likely to die when giving birth, because human infants need to have a cranium of a certain minimum size regardless of how big the mother is. Eventually this led to a correlation between being short and having a large vagina. True story. There's even ancient folklore about the phenomenon. Something like, when humans were first divided into men …
/r/seduction11/06/11 10:20 AM
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"Whoa she's an HB10 I must not screw this up" - which actually is the point where you're screwing up I do this as well. It's the big danger with extremely hot girls that you're already sleeping with. You have to be a bit cold and keep them at arm's length, but at the time you have to make sure nobody else snatches her up, because people will be constantly trying. The only way I've managed to do it in the past is to create a kind of emotional dependence where the girl needs my approval (playing o…
/r/seduction11/06/11 09:15 AM
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I'm 32. Those photo booths do that. They have some kind of crazy automatic airbrushing functionality from the future.
/r/seduction11/06/11 08:29 AM
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Me too
/r/seduction11/06/11 03:14 AM
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Or, there's this one from last week. I met these girls on the street, early in the morning. I mentioned it in this FR. I've already had 1 more date with the girl on the bottom left (standing next to me here), and I'm meeting her again near my apartment at 11:30pm tomorrow night. She's a 22 year old nurse.
/r/seduction11/06/11 03:03 AM
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Best I could do on short notice. :)
/r/seduction11/06/11 02:59 AM
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Learning a language is just a function of time spent, really. I studied a bit in school, but the classes were useless. All the actual learning happened with me in a chair and a book in front of me, or me walking around with tapes playing through headphones, or me sleeping with TV shows that I don't understand playing in the background. Then I came here and put what I had learned to use. It was hard for a couple of months and then it was easy.
/r/seduction11/06/11 02:50 AM
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High on pheromones.
/r/seduction11/06/11 02:47 AM
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No, I just read it the same way you did. "My target is on the right" of the photo. She's on my left.
/r/seduction11/06/11 02:46 AM
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Actually that's the one I was least attracted to. My target is on the right.
/r/seduction10/06/11 03:54 PM
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In the FR I wrote when I originally met her, I put her as HB6. That might have been a bit low, but it was relative to her two other friends who were more attractive. One of those girls is on the right (my target in the original FR), and the other is taking the picture.
/r/seduction10/06/11 03:50 PM
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Feels good, bro. Picture is from the other night, described here.
/r/seduction10/06/11 03:05 PM
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Maybe. Or maybe there's more to the story that you don't know about. Maybe she doesn't really have a boyfriend. Maybe they have an open relationship. You have no idea what's going on there, but you rush to judge and belittle. What kind of values are those?
/r/seduction10/06/11 07:47 AM
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And why is it your job to give a fuck about her boyfriend?
/r/seduction10/06/11 07:20 AM
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So basically I should be showing up to a club every Wednesday at roughly 1 AM.
/r/seduction10/06/11 07:08 AM
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Big, open air concerts are great for pickup. Go out a ways from the stage and walk up to any group. If they're rocking out, rock with them. If they're not, chat with them a bit and when the next song starts say "oh shit" and start rocking out, get them to join. Now you're part of their group and you can game as you please. At smaller venues, it's a bit harder. I recently had some success by showing up early before the band was there, and then just walking up to the cutest girl in the place and s…
/r/seduction10/06/11 04:46 AM
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Sounds like you made that girl's day. Nice work.
/r/seduction09/06/11 08:42 AM
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Compliment her looks, see how she receives it. Have a few drinks, have husband ask casually about her sexual experience. Ask if she's ever had a 3some. By then you should know if you're good to go. If she looks into it, standard seduction applies. Have a pretext of some kind for physical contact, and get her comfortable with you touching her. When things get warmed up enough, go for a kiss. The rest should take care of itself.
/r/seduction09/06/11 03:25 AM
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So true. How many times have you seen a guy in a bar win over the hot girl just by being annoying and persistent? I've seen it over and over. The girl blows him off a dozen times, and he comes back a dozen times. By the end of the night, they're making out. The fact is, most of the "game" that gets discussed here and in the PUA literature I've seen is only useful for the first 30 seconds or so, especially when drinking is involved. After that, kino and proximity is about all it takes.
/r/seduction09/06/11 02:58 AM
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I agree. I think the whole "beta" and "alpha" dichotomy touted here is completely flawed and misleading. I also think people here are way too quick to label actual attraction as "one-itis".
/r/seduction09/06/11 02:55 AM
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I just tell the truth: "I have no idea".
/r/seduction08/06/11 07:28 AM
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a half ... hot drunk midget Haha, I'm going to try that
/r/seduction08/06/11 07:27 AM
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Not at all. Whether it's true or not is pretty much beside the point ;)
/r/seduction08/06/11 06:55 AM
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Interesting. Thanks ;) It is all total bullshit, I presume? I've never heard of any such beliefs among the ancient greeks. Not that that matters ;P
/r/seduction08/06/11 06:45 AM
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It's funny, when I was in Vancouver I got a lot of these hey-stranger-let's-fuck messages on OkCupid as well, often from really beautiful girls. Girls are just really sexually open there, I guess.
/r/seduction08/06/11 04:02 AM
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Update: She still showed up for the 2pm date, albiet an hour late. I used the fact that she changed the time to try and mitigate my guilt. I explained what happened and she was a bit angry (especially that I had called her at 4 am and woken her up), but I laughed about it and she didn't make a big deal out of it. Later, our date was supposed to go until 6 o'clock, but we ended up doing shots of tequila until about 7 and she was late for her plans with her friends. When she called them up she mad…
/r/seduction08/06/11 12:07 AM
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I saw the chart. I think that if you could actually walk into a bar with a confident smile, approach a girl by herself, and go through all of these steps (plus kino) without looking lost or getting anxious, then yeah it would work.
/r/seduction07/06/11 11:58 PM
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What is the Ring Routine? :)
/r/seduction07/06/11 11:30 PM
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Haha, yes. I have the slackest job in the universe. I stopped going in to the office years ago.
/r/seduction07/06/11 01:17 AM
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I like his outlook.
/r/seduction06/06/11 07:55 AM
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Really? If you try it out and it works well, let me know. There doesn't seem to be anything quite like that for iphone.
/r/seduction02/06/11 07:02 PM
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Absolutely. I'm not suggesting otherwise. Really I'm just curious ;) I use OkCupid a lot, and even though there are hardly any users in Japan, I have definitely had some dates with extremely hot girls from there, including situations like this one where we went from first-contact to sex in a single day. In fact, one of the top-5 hottest girls I've ever slept with was one of those cases, back when I was in Vancouver.
/r/seduction01/06/11 09:29 PM
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I'd be curious to see a pic, too. Sounds like she was ready to go right from the start.
/r/seduction01/06/11 09:19 PM
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Some things to throw out there, off the top of my head: So what languages do you speak? Really? Let's hear you say something. Hah, wow that's terrible. What countries have you been to? Which was your favorite? That's cool, did you get pictures? I hear that [the food is really] [the people are really] [the weather is really] blah blah blah. Scrutinizing look. Hey... who do people usually say you look like? Hmm.. I guess I can see that. That's not what I was thinking of, though. I can't tell you t…
/r/seduction31/05/11 08:06 PM
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It all depends on the situation, but my reflexive reaction is to just ignore them entirely. Usually the girl will ignore them too. If that doesn't work, I just play it by ear. One thing I've noticed is if you keep answering all of the guy's questions to the girl as if they were addressed to you, the guy usually goes away. I've had people try to use this on me, too. But I can usually make it backfire, e.g., by reacting with surprise and asking the girl "is that true?" and running with that. I've …
/r/seduction31/05/11 05:22 PM
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After years and years of caffeine drinking, redbull doesn't keep me awake in the slightest. I can down 3 cans and go right to bed. Same with espresso.
/r/seduction31/05/11 05:14 PM
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Thanks for the concern, but I"ll be fine. I know how prejudiced police here are, but that initial distrust usually works to your advantage when they find out you speak the language. I deal with cops here all the time, multiple times a week, usually in a situation of hostility, and I never get in trouble. I'm good at it. In this case, it was obviously just a bunch of drunken salarymen having an early-morning dickwaving contest. There was no danger. And even then, I didn't go in and engage anyone.…
/r/seduction31/05/11 05:06 PM
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I'd say it's different, but not as different as you might think, especially in the city. The biggest difference I notice is the abundance of repressed Japanese males, who will leap to cockblock you when they see you chatting up a girl. They're usually defused without much trouble, though.
/r/seduction31/05/11 01:12 PM
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It depends. I think push/pull or teasing is very useful to get a beautiful girl's attention and build initial attraction, and I used it a bit here early on with lines like "don't you have any friends?" and then pretending to have a hard time remembering her name (which also led to the writing-it-down game). In this particular situation I didn't see an opportunity or need for much more teasing than that. Once I got past her ice shield I found that the girl was pretty open and honest about herself…
/r/seduction29/05/11 04:49 PM
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losing outcome independence when things start to get serious and this causes you to be reaction seeking This is a perfect statement of a pitfall that I've fallen into a few times lately as well.
/r/seduction29/05/11 04:44 PM
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Yeah. At first I was giving her light touches on the shoulder and arm, which she kind of recoiled away from. I stopped for a while when we took our seats, then basically any time she laughed or I finished a point I would sort of lightly grab her elbow or something and share a smile with her, and I positioned our seats so we were very close together, using the crowdedness of the bar as a kind of tacit excuse. Eventually I also got her to write her name on my hand, tracing it with her finger, and …
/r/seduction29/05/11 04:25 PM
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It's possible, yeah. But given the way the night had been going the fact that she didn't ask if she could see me again seemed pretty significant. I would have expected at least a playful line like "promise you'll call me, okay?". Nothing.
/r/seduction29/05/11 02:05 PM
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She only recently turned 21. I doubt her biological clock is giving her any trouble. Girls like sex, too. Even good girls may like to go out and get wasted and, yes, maybe sometimes hook up with fun boys they met in bars. My read of the situation is that I started out by coming across as confident and a bit aloof, and she responded well to that. I'm something like 11 years older than her, and she wanted to feel like she was "getting" me and winning me over, which I let her do. The next day I was…
/r/seduction29/05/11 12:10 PM
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Oh wow, I need to get some of those. Hah
/r/seduction29/05/11 11:39 AM
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Yeah, I ran into you just after I said goodbye to the girl. Did you get a look at her? I tried to point her out but she might have been out of sight. She was damned sexy. It sucks that I wasn't able to get a picture of her. She spent a lot of the time while we were drinking showing me pictures from her phone and camera and she might send me some pics if I asked, but I'm not going to text her for a while yet. I've also started getting texts and pictures from girls I met at the club last night. So…
/r/seduction29/05/11 10:55 AM
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Honestly it sounds like if you are going to pursue her further you are going to have to prove to her that she's not just a piece of meat and that you actually care about her and want something more. Well, I don't think that's an accurate read of the situation. Let me share my secret. My game? I don't have one. I believe you. You had an agenda and she saw it. And you think she didn't also have an agenda? Women have amazing intuition, even if they don't know what their gut is trying to tell them t…
/r/seduction29/05/11 10:36 AM
2

Well, at the last bar we were at she started acting tired and "falling asleep" on my shoulder and so on, obviously pushing to get me to take her home. I reacted by saying "ok fine I live nearby and you can sleep in my bed, but I'm not done drinking so I'm just going to drop you off and head back out. Also, sleeping only. Don't get any funny ideas." Naturally when we actually got the place we instantly started going at it, but I had already told her that I'd be leaving. She didn't seem to mind it…
/r/seduction29/05/11 10:27 AM
3

Yeah. She was fast asleep, I was gone from 2 am to 4:30 am on a rainy Tokyo night with no trains running. She wasn't likely to make off with anything. Also, we took a cab here so she didn't even know exactly where my place is. That, and I don't really own anything worth stealing.
/r/seduction29/05/11 07:50 AM
6

Indeed. I still feel like I could have taken that opportunity to get her wanting to come back for more, though. Still, that is basically what I figured as well. It was very weird that she was there by herself, though. She's definitely not a bar girl. She's a pre school teacher, just barely 21 years old, and she's only ever had one boyfriend and probably only had sex a few times. It wasn't even a recent breakup: she had apparently been single for about a year. Plus, she lives far away from the ba…
/r/seduction29/05/11 07:48 AM
2

I read about it here: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/hia4k/routine_5_questions_game/
/r/seduction29/05/11 04:01 AM
2

What do you mean? Before I came to the bar? I went to a few other bars before that one, but there were no 9s or 10s so I just moved on. I was by myself the whole night. Actually, after a few hours in bed with this girl, I wasn't tired so I went back out by myself while she slept. I had an awesome night clubbing, eventually having girls literally fighting each other to dance with me, jumping through hoops to "earn" my phone number, etc. It was all due to me feeling great for having just landed a …
/r/seduction29/05/11 03:56 AM
3

What's funny is I've done this exact approach many, many times. So far, no successes. HEheheh
/r/seduction29/05/11 03:37 AM
2

That was actually some really solid day gaming. Chris Farley was a PUA before it was cool.
/r/seduction29/05/11 03:36 AM
1

Sounds good. What is the cube?
/r/seduction25/05/11 05:54 PM
1

This is awesome. I'm going to use it immediately.
/r/seduction25/05/11 10:03 AM
7

I'm pretty sure if you've been dating for 3+ months, the first step at this point is having sex with her. You kiss, right? You touch, right? Just do more of that, and then don't stop.
/r/seduction24/05/11 04:30 PM
5

So.. uh... have you tried fucking her? Because I think you should try fucking her.
/r/seduction24/05/11 04:09 PM
1

Great post. Thanks.
/r/seduction24/05/11 12:35 PM
1

Why's that? I've seen half-japanese girls with blue eyes before.
/r/seduction22/05/11 11:26 AM
2

It's funny how many of us are in Japan. Come to /r/tokyoseddit! You can find a sarging partner basically any day of the week. I go out 5 or more nights a week, usually solo in Shibuya or Ginza.
/r/seduction20/05/11 10:16 AM
5

Context. If you're in a bar and there's a table with three girls sipping their drinks, they probably don't want you to sit and sip drinks with them. What they want is for you to come in and give them a good time. That means leading the conversation. At a social gathering where people are in groups and chatting about this or that, then yeah, follow their lead and don't keep making it about yourself.
/r/seduction18/05/11 03:05 AM
1

I'm assuming you're American/European American, yeah. I'd say being foreign in Japan is a massive advantage with one specific type of girl: the ones who glom onto foreigners, want to speak only English, talk about nothing but travel and "foreigner-related" topics, dream of living overseas with beautiful blue eyed children, etc. There are a lot of girls of that type, especially once you leave the cities (the ones in the cities are mostly snatched up due to gaijin saturation), and if you want one …
/r/seduction17/05/11 09:07 AM
3

In the moment, yeah. Laugh and roll with it.
/r/seduction16/05/11 06:48 AM
4

That's not bad. Everyone laughs. You smile but look confused and say "...what?" like you didn't hear, with an inquisitive let-me-in-on-the-joke expression. Now he either has to repeat it for your benefit and you nod at him, good job. Or, he says nothing or nevermind and you shrug at him, sorry bro speak up next time.
/r/seduction16/05/11 06:02 AM
14

Personally if a guy is saying shit like that to me in front of girls then he is not my friend. At some point I'd find a chance to pull him aside and explain to him that he can say whatever he wants when it's just us, but if there are girls around he can either be a team player (DHV, ignore my target) or he can shut the hell up. If he keeps doing it, I'd stop inviting him out and whenever we ended up in the same group I'd keep him at arm's length always. Next time he throws out "haha you're such …
/r/seduction16/05/11 04:59 AM
0

PUA literature is rife with with "evolutionary psychology" pseudoscience like this. It's about as scientific as astrology or tarot cards. Sometimes the results are right, but the reasoning adduced to justify the results is complete bunk.
/r/seduction16/05/11 04:44 AM
4

Like anything, so much depends on the specific circumstances that it's hard to say anything that would be useful in general. On the one hand, you don't want to be reactive, and the best thing is to play it up like you're pleased with the joke and you take it as a compliment. On the other hand you do not want to give the AMOG any attention. I think probably the best compromise is to laugh amongst your group without directly acknowledging the AMOG at all. Something like "haha, man that's funny. Th…
/r/seduction16/05/11 03:23 AM
2

LOL that was all her doing. Hehe yeah I see that now. Oh well. I wasn't going to get her anyway. That girl is a pro at leading guys on and never getting caught. Check out her facebook pics ;) The main reason she was off limits is because I met her through a friend who is trying hard to bang her. A friend who has both me and her on facebook. And now I'm going to have some serious explaining to do. f(-_-;
/r/seduction15/05/11 10:02 AM
2

Good times. Now go kick some ass in the states for a while. Tokyo will be here waiting for your return. :) It's easy to get caught up in trying to get laid and "seducing" women. Don't ever forget how to have a good time with your friends. Guilty, no doubt. What can I say, when I'm in the field I have a one-track mind. Especially lately since I've been on such a dry run. Even the so-so girls that I want to use as a fallback aren't calling me back or coming out for day-2s. And that in turn just ma…
/r/seduction15/05/11 09:42 AM
1

They were. There was a tall girl with black hair on your side who was especially cute, and she was giving you IOIs. They left immediately after we moved on, though, so the timing was perfect. If I were you I would have taken a moment to at least slip the girl my number on her way out though, because what the hell, can't hurt. In fact, I did that with the cute one on my side that I had been working on, writing my name on her hand etc. She hasn't written to me yet but she might, and I like knowing…
/r/seduction14/05/11 01:14 AM
1

I mentioned it while we were out but I didn't push it. I'd invite her today but she still hasn't responded to my most recent text yet, so fuck that. I keep burning through girls by getting impatient and sending multiple texts even though I know better. Plus, there is at least one other girl coming that I want to work on. The situation is a bit complicated. I'll fill you in later but basically, I met this girl when she was being worked on (to no avail) by a friend of mine. Now she's coming to you…
/r/seduction14/05/11 01:10 AM
1

Yeah. It was that awkward point where we were leaving the bar and going to ruby room and the girls were trying to use that as a window to leave. They said they had 40 minutes left, and I was saying that's plenty of time, let's have one drink, etc. Eventually the main group walked ahead and I was walking along with my girl, but her friend was hanging back at the bar, standing rooted to the spot with Naga14, who was saying goodbye and sending her home. Thus my annoyance. We had already been taking…
/r/seduction14/05/11 01:05 AM
1

No, I don't think I did isolate. That is a good point. I definitely should have. The worst part about 20 year olds for me is how flaky they are. That's why I was so set on keeping this one out all night. If she goes home, I'm right back to the fucking situation where I send texts and wait 3 days to either get a "no" or a "yes" followed by her getting a "cold" on the day. At this point I'm so sick of that whole rigmarole that I'd rather just push push push and make it a choice between burning bri…
/r/seduction14/05/11 12:55 AM
3

If a shy, reserved girl like this one is at the point where she's sitting in my lap, kissing me, holding my hand, dancing on me in a bar where there is no dance floor and no one else is dancing, and all the rest, then yes if she ends up going home at midnight it's because I did something wrong. In this case she was willing to be coaxed to stay out, but not willing to be seen as a slut by her friend who was urging her to run and catch the last train. Cases like that are exactly why there is such …
/r/seduction14/05/11 12:43 AM
2

Hey baby, ever dated a biker?
/r/seduction13/05/11 10:54 PM
13

Sometimes I led it slide off, then in the next thread of conversation I'll say like You're ___ years old? So how many ex boyfriends have you had? Seven That's cool, I can date a girl with eight ex boyfriends
/r/seduction13/05/11 09:34 PM
1

In college I used to do exactly that with bourbon. The problem is I ended up developing a taste for bourbon. Nowadays there really isn't any drink that I hate enough to significantly slow me down past the first couple of sips.
/r/seduction13/05/11 09:14 PM
12

Oh man, I was not happy when those two girls went home. If there was ever a perfect setup for taking a girl home, that was it. It's such a bummer when a girl has her friend watching. In almost all cases either you keep both out past the train or you lose them both. Mine was down and I really thought her friend was too. But no, after all that my girl's friend dragged her away. I get so annoyed when that happens. It's like snatching meat away from a dog. Lots of amusing events come to mind from th…
/r/seduction13/05/11 08:52 AM
1

Mystery just kinda went silent because I don't think he agreed. I admit that my response at that point was exactly the same. Kind of an incredulous silence, like "hm, if you say so". I mean yeah there are going to be cases where a girl is just ready to go right from the start, and if you get that indication and you exploit the opportunity you can go from "hello" to makeout in a matter of seconds or minutes. Sometimes that even happens with really beautiful girls. But does it happen often enough …
/r/seduction12/05/11 08:00 AM
3

It's a question of personal style, but I think I side with Mystery on this. When going after HB10s, you cannot assume attraction. When going after the hottest girl in the bar, the one that every single guy is staring at, you cannot assume attraction. It's helpful to always assume availability and the potential for attraction, but HB10s are simply not going to meet you halfway. You need to get yourself on her radar and engage her emotions somehow first, and that's what Mystery's approach here see…
/r/seduction12/05/11 07:48 AM
1

I enjoyed weed the first, maybe 4 times I smoked it. Now and then, maybe once a year I still get in the mood to be high. But usually I just don't enjoy it. At best it makes me sleepy. At worst I just wish it would wear off so I could complete a thought. Definitely not the drug for me.
/r/seduction05/05/11 01:45 PM
1

What a great post. This should be in the sidebar.
/r/seduction05/05/11 12:16 PM
0

You think I'm "attacking his posting history"? It fucking matters who you're talking to. And here on reddit, you know who you're talking to based on what they've said in the past. If someone says they suck at getting women, you do not take their advice on getting women. Is this hard for you to understand? If you found yourself agreeing with someone on the subject of seduction, and that person turns out to be a regular on /r/foreveralone who doesn't understand why people like kissing and never ha…
/r/seduction15/04/11 10:30 AM
-6

Rest assured, I don't care about you as an individual one way or the other. I'm addressing the larger issue of people on this subreddit upvoting shit comments and shit posts while good posts get buried or neglected. Your shitty comment just happens to be a case in point.
/r/seduction15/04/11 02:14 AM
-6

Yes, yes, you're an ignorant social retard. That's not what bothers me. It's the fact that others upvoted you instead of burying you like you deserve. I'm actually addressing the upvoters, not you. As for you, you can go back to your threads in /r/foreveralone where you talk about how you never want to have sex. Maybe the morons who upvoted you can go along with you. What made you think you had something to contribute here in the first place?
/r/seduction15/04/11 02:05 AM
-9

Did 6 people here really vote you up? That's depressing. To everyone who upvoted WildOughter, look at his submission history. You're siding with a guy whose online personality is a self-avowed "foreveralone" who thinks girls are yucky. God, there are so many clueless people here. Half the time this subreddit feels more like special ed class than a community of guys who know how to pick up women. "Too transparent"? What do you know about it? Have you ever gotten a girl in your life? Even once? Ev…
/r/seduction15/04/11 01:45 AM
4

your not supposed :(
/r/seduction14/04/11 10:11 PM
-2

I'd ignore the text, then text her the next morning saying "hey sorry about yesterday. I completely forgot about our date. Next time I'll be there, promise"
/r/seduction14/04/11 10:07 PM
4

This advice is so good it brought tears to my eyes. Although to be fair I was eating spicy food when I read it.
/r/seduction13/04/11 07:23 PM
1

The place is Camelot. It has been really good this week because all the students are in the last days of spring break, all the salarymen are working, and all the foreigners have left the country. I didn't mention it but at one point I even tried "the claw" from some pua video I saw here at seddit. It worked amazingly but I didn't follow up.
/r/seduction13/04/11 08:19 AM
0

Complete psuedoscience, but women love it.
/r/seduction12/04/11 10:52 AM
24

Same. 32 now and picking up girls of any age has never been easier.
/r/seduction12/04/11 10:46 AM
1

Why bother banning him? Downvote and move on. He may be socially retarded to the point of mild autism but banning him won't fix that, and we're hardly going to eliminate that demographic entirely anyway. Remember where we are ;)
/r/seduction11/04/11 03:44 PM
1

Yeah, that's more or less right. There was also the issue that I didn't want to "game" this girl, because she had come with the other guy. I was willing, at that point, to be enough of a dick to take her home if she was absolutely ready to go. But I wasn't willing to try and goad her into it. My drunk reasoning was basically that I'd just give her a chance to ditch that guy and get laid if that's what she wanted, since she seemed to be into me and I was about to head home by myself anyway. As fo…
/r/seduction11/04/11 05:04 AM
3

And what, exactly, is wrong with being desperate for social interaction? You sound like you're ashamed to be human.
/r/seduction09/04/11 07:59 AM
1

I did this exact same thing many years ago. I learned a lot. I wish I had kept it up.
/r/seduction09/04/11 07:57 AM
2

The Ichiro get-up is great
/r/seduction09/04/11 07:01 AM
8

Endless neurotic traits and habits. Over-thinking of sex and romance. Constant bickering and power struggles within the relationship. Frequent arguments over trivial shit that doesn't matter. Stagnation after you've had every intellectual conversation a dozen times already and you've hashed out your philosophical differences and you both end up thinking so much alike that you hate each other. Now after having seen the alternative, I have a deep respect for the irrational, flighty, "air-headed" g…
/r/seduction06/04/11 02:52 AM
9

Intelligence. I used to think the only thing I wanted in life was an intelligent girl. Then I found one. Nope.
/r/seduction06/04/11 01:54 AM
2

An odd thing I've noticed. The better-dressed a girl is (as in, expensive designer clothes, prada bags, fur coats) the more likely she is to go for the ass lick. It just makes me more uncomfortable than anything. I've never asked a girl to do it, and wouldn't. But I've had so many girls go for it, especially 26+ year olds who dress to the nines. I don't know why there should be any such correlation, but there it is.
/r/seduction05/04/11 02:26 AM
2

Honestly, I don't think you should go to bars by yourself if you want to meet a worthwhile guy. It's a safe bet that if you walk into any bar and set up at the counter and wait long enough, every guy in the place will approach you sooner or later. But if this leads to you hooking up with anyone, it will be one of the ones who are the most persistent, or the pushiest, or who got you drunkest. This cross-section will not intersect heavily with the best guys. Find a girl or two to go with, even if …
/r/seduction04/04/11 06:40 AM
11

Could you be more wrong? Five minutes into a conversation if a girl told me "don't touch me", I'd never want to see her face again. If she laughs it off and keeps talking, like she did, then that's about the best response to a fumbled grab attempt that anyone is ever going to get.
/r/seduction04/04/11 06:35 AM
2

So i ask them about Story's. Had to struggle hard not to insta-downvote when I hit that gem. The story is fine. But every apostrophe fail and grammar trainwreck along the way caused me to want to die a little bit.
/r/seduction04/04/11 06:27 AM
1

I remember the first time I made this experiment and got the same results. It's sad, but it works like crazy. Especially with the really, really hot girls.
/r/seduction04/04/11 05:03 AM
3

What a load of bullshit. Sometimes looks are relevant. This is one of those times. If I write a guide on how to get rich, and you happen to know that I'm dead broke, then guess what? That's a relevant fact. It bears on how you should evaluate my advice. Namely, that you should throw it out the fucking window because it's useless. And when you get advice on how to win over a woman, coming from an HB3 who would never need to to be won over in the first place, then you should react the same way.
/r/seduction31/03/11 07:29 AM
4

I have a bright pink scarf I wear sometimes, and a bright yellow hat. Not sure about socks. By the time she's noticed, what good is peacocking anymore? Are you really going to "escalate" after she points to your socks? Hey thanks for noticing my socks. Tongue tongue tongue.
/r/seduction31/03/11 06:27 AM
1

This is really all that needed to be said.
/r/seduction31/03/11 04:57 AM
2

I don't know. I do the "slip the girl my number" move a lot when the logistics of getting hers would be difficult. I would say I get a response maybe 1/4th of the time. That's good enough for it to be worth it, I'd say. Naturally, I have never once had the girl actually call me. But I do get same-day and next-day texts.
/r/seduction31/03/11 01:07 AM
3

I don't doubt for a second that you honestly believe that. If the question was, "do women believe that they prefer nice guys?", then I would answer yes. If I needed to, I could point to your post or a thousand others like it for proof. But that is not the question. This is an old, old, tired subject here. Believe me. You're not an authority on seduction just because you have a vagina. If it was a simple matter of asking girls what they want, then there would be no need for research or practice.
/r/seduction31/03/11 01:01 AM
6

Brilliant. I'm not sure about bringing up the boyfriend, but all in all a perfect setup. In my case, if I'm after a girl and I know or suspect she has a boyfriend, I make it clear to her that officially, I believe she doesn't have a boyfriend, and she should make sure it stays that way. Any mention or reference to the boyfriend I just ignore and plow right over. And I never bring it up myself.
/r/seduction30/03/11 10:07 PM
2

I'm not "ripping into this girl". Learn to read. I'm dismissing the post, for good reason. The advice is wrong, and the source is suspect. I knew the girl was ugly before I saw her picture just based on what she was saying, and the picture was evidence for it if evidence were needed. If you're nice guy B, go away! Shame on you! This kind of shit deserves to be shot down for what it is. The fact that it resonates with misguided AFCs like you is exactly why this completely wrong advice will keep c…
/r/seduction30/03/11 09:13 PM
3

I see you are easily fooled by careful image cropping. Even apart from what you're seeing, there is a lot that can go wrong in the 60% of her that you are not seeing. And chances are it's not far from a worst case scenario.
/r/seduction30/03/11 08:43 AM
17

By the way, here is a pic of the author of this comic. You be the judge. http://i.imgur.com/ThLAF.jpg
/r/seduction30/03/11 03:27 AM
46

Do we need to have this "nice guy" discussion every other day, forever? It's true. Some girls really do like nice guys. Specifically, ugly girls. For attractive girls, compliments and attention are in cheap supply. If you want to impress an attractive girl, being "nice" won't cut it.
/r/seduction30/03/11 02:15 AM
2

Stay out of my beachfront community
/r/seduction30/03/11 12:43 AM
15

These types of posts always remind me of this exchange from The Big Lebowski: Jackie Treehorn: People forget the brain is the biggest erogenous zone. The Dude: On you, maybe. Pick-up is about being awesome and happy. For you, maybe. As for me, I'm not interested in "attracting all women" or in social climbing or self-esteem coaching or any of that. I like myself and my life just fine. That doesn't preclude an interest in learning and sharing techniques for getting a high-quality woman into bed a…
/r/seduction29/03/11 11:44 PM
0

Whoever just downvoted my comment, I'LL KICK YOUR FUCKING ASS
/r/seduction29/03/11 10:50 PM
-2

I recently got into a big disagreement with a former wingman over this very issue. A guy moved on my girl, and was making progress. I got physical with him, and my wingman freaked out and called it quits for good, saying that that kind of display made him uncomfortable and he doesn't want to game with me again. C'est la vie. It is true that I tend to get very possessive with girls, and generally I make sure that if a guy is going to take my target away from me he is damned well going to work for…
/r/seduction29/03/11 09:50 PM
1

I guess maybe I should have linked directly to the comic. Here it is. http://i.imgur.com/y218x.png
/r/seduction14/03/11 12:14 PM
1

Even after being blown out a million times this still goes on in my head once in a while. But now, instead of shrinking away I just stand there and grin like a retard and keep talking until I power through it. Sometimes it works. Other times the girls finally get up and go away. In that case, hey, I just got my own table in a crowded bar. :P
/r/seduction14/03/11 12:08 PM
3

Playful is good. Be funny and happy and even goofy if you can play that angle, but be sure to avoid supplicating or appearing needy for attention in the process. I like to make challenges I cannot possibly win. Yesterday I told a girl about 1/3rd my size that her jacket would look better on me, and proceeded to make a show of trying to squeeze into it. Then later I loudly declared to UrSofaKing "Dude, I'm blacker than you!" and proceeded to sing cheesy 1980s rap songs at karaoke. A lot of the ti…
/r/seduction13/03/11 09:10 AM
32

The way I see it, all the good girls are taken. And by god, I'm going to take them back.
/r/seduction12/03/11 04:43 AM
1

Volunteering? Nah. I would have if there had been a need, but the area I'm in didn't have any real damage. The power didn't even go out. The main inconvenience in most of Tokyo was that the trains stopped running and everyone had to walk home. It was pretty crazy seeing the sidewalks packed with people at 10pm, though, and convenience stores completely sold out of stuff.
/r/seduction12/03/11 04:24 AM
40

True to form, I've been texting all the girls on my contact list with messages "are you okay? call me if you need anything" and I cancelled a date for tonight by saying I'm out volunteering to help the elderly. What can I say, I keep my eyes on the prize. :P
/r/seduction11/03/11 09:14 AM
53

Shaken, but not stirred
/r/seduction11/03/11 09:13 AM
15

If she puts her hands between her legs and starts scratching it could mean crabs
/r/seduction09/03/11 08:06 AM
4

Right. It isn't enough to be secretly intelligent, or to have lots of untapped brains lurking behind a bland exterior. If you're smart, then put those smarts to use. Put them on display, not by talking about how smart you are, but by using those smarts to learn how to get girls. If you can't do that, then your supposed intelligence isn't good for anything after all. There was once some woman who had an IQ of 300, and she spent her life writing advice articles for a little-known magazine and then…
/r/seduction09/03/11 05:46 AM
1

Right. It isn't enough to be secretly intelligent, or to have lots of untapped brains lurking behind a bland exterior. If you're smart, then put those smarts to use. Put them on display, not by talking about how smart you are, but by using those smarts to learn how to get girls. If you can't do that, then your supposed intelligence isn't good for anything after all. There was some woman who had an IQ of 300, and she spent her life writing advice articles for a little-known magazine and then she …
/r/seduction09/03/11 05:44 AM
2

♪ Some of them want to abuse you. Some of them want to be abused. ♪ When I was a young lad in Virginia I once had a girl who could not have been more than 16 ask me to handcuff her to the steering wheel of my mom's car and burn her with cigarettes while she went down on me. This was our first date. Apparently that's what her ex used to do to her, and at her age that influence had shaped her sexual fantasies and she was into it now. Naturally I was quite weirded out and I just kind of took her ho…
/r/seduction09/03/11 05:37 AM
5

Just bring it up in conversation and test the waters. "Have you ever been in a threesome?" If she seems receptive, say you do it all the time and, actually, there's a really cute girl you know who is up for it. Show the girl pictures of the other girl and say something like "what do you think? is she your type?" Don't mention that she's your ex or anything. If you act like it's a regular event for you the girl might be willing to come along for the ride. Warning, though. You're almost certainly …
/r/seduction09/03/11 04:40 AM
0

Tequila seems to work.
/r/seduction09/03/11 04:15 AM
2

You could also tell her to call you after the show's over (to check if you're free yet, or whatever). This will have the added benefit of making sure she doesn't hook up with anyone else while you're gone.
/r/seduction08/03/11 07:12 AM
11

Even boring girls can always find guys who buy them dinner and fawn to them. Sounds like she either a) mistakenly put you in that category, or b) sensed that she wasn't winning you over, and put up her ice shield to save her own ego. You shouldn't have let her get away with showing up so late. She made you wait for 45 minutes. Make her give you an explanation, which you will weigh to decide whether it's good enough. If not, then you say sorry I'm not hungry anymore and walk out. If the story is …
/r/seduction08/03/11 06:45 AM
1

I'd like to hear about that too. I have no idea what it is
/r/seduction08/03/11 06:28 AM
1

That day game sounds like a lot of fun. I would love to do that kind of thing. It's very hard to do solo. Any time you want to go out and try some more day game, let me know. Even if you bring your other wing, it's not a bad dynamic. 3 friendly, non-threatening guys laughing and joking is a lot better for day game than one guy walking around alone. That cockblocker in the club sounds like a nightmare. That's a textbook case of what a wingman is for. It's too bad you didn't have someone to get he…
/r/seduction08/03/11 06:24 AM
5

It's not that all ways of saying something are equally good. It's that the difference is small enough to usually be negligible when compared to other factors like your tone and presentation. Taking your examples, while sentence 2 is a better on paper, there are still plenty of good ways to say sentence 1 and plenty of bad ways to say sentence 2. For instance, think of Chris Rock or some Chris Tucker type character saying the first line in a jokey, up-beat way. Think of some depressed, low-energy…
/r/seduction08/03/11 05:41 AM
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So anyway my grandma is throwing this sick party at her house and she said I could invite you. There's going to be jello shooters and, well basically jello everything because my grandpa has no teeth
/r/seduction08/03/11 05:35 AM
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She probably knows people at the party and can't invite a date that she met online. It was a mistake to press the issue. She just wanted to tell you about it. You should have said "niiiice" and let it go. Invite her out another time. Me: I think we have similar feelings about each other and I have just been having fun taking it day by day. Ugh. Bad play. Keep it light, let her come to you. She's obviously willing to do it if you give her time.
/r/seduction08/03/11 04:01 AM
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In my case it seems to be progressing like this: Phase 1: Girls are on pedestals. They are amazing creatures that are way too good for me. Phase 2: I finally found a girl who likes me, we have sex. Better get married. Phase 3: She cheated on me, then dumped me. Life sucks. Wait, there's more girls? Fuck, how do I get them? Phase 4: Girls seem to like assholes. I'm desperate. I'll try it. Spike my hair, hit the gym, take martial arts, be as much of a fucker as I can to girls, treat them like shit…
/r/seduction08/03/11 03:25 AM
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Wow, I agree with every word of this except perhaps the no-drinking rule. I find that if nothing else, having a drink in my hand is a very useful prop to keep conversations going. Maybe that's a crutch that I would do better without, but maybe not. I also think the "never" in "never buy a girl a drink" is going too far, but that's not really something I'd take issue with. I agree with the spirit of what he's saying there, if not the letter. Most of all I agree that "Finding" is the hardest part,…
/r/seduction08/03/11 01:25 AM
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It would be if I did it right. In practice I just add each girl to a random account and more often than not I end up with different girls on multiple friend lists and it's all a big mess.
/r/seduction07/03/11 11:25 AM
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Yeah, like I said I wasn't part of that set with the first two girls, and I wasn't trying to be. I could see the cute girl was way into you, and that's what I was trying to say to you; that we should press for a venue change, and to do that we had to get her friend on board. Nobody ever convinced the friend, and your cute girl wasn't going anywhere without her friend's approval. I still think you could have brought her along if you had gone over and chatted up her friend for a while. But oh well…
/r/seduction07/03/11 10:50 AM
3

Personally I have 7 or 8 different facebook accounts. Managing all of that is definitely more trouble than it's worth, but facebook is just too useful for getting back in touch with girls you meet in the field. So, I add girls to facebook all the time, but I don't want them ever seeing each other or (in some cases) getting friend invites from my male friends or anything like that. So I separate them across different accounts, depending on things like where I met them or what I think the nature o…
/r/seduction07/03/11 08:35 AM
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I get ya. One downside is you can't read em at work, though.
/r/seduction07/03/11 03:19 AM
2

Couldn't this FR have been presented in normal text format? I'm not trying to be a naysayer, just wondering about the rationale for doing it by video. I think someone could read 3 FRs in the time it takes to listen to one.
/r/seduction07/03/11 03:11 AM
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I think you did fine. I feel sorry for the poor girl who got her hair ripped out by a fatty's rhinestone bag, but you handled it the best you could.
/r/seduction06/03/11 11:21 PM
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I thought this was going to be about actually posting videos of us picking up girls. I'd be up for that if I could find a cameraman ;) Although, actually having to see how dumb I look when I'm out doing my shtick might ruin my game. Hehehe
/r/seduction06/03/11 08:20 AM
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Yeah. The Italian guy is good natured and he does listen to what you tell him, but he definitely needs to be told how to wingman. Like you say, it's not malicious, he just has a mentality of "let's talk to girls!" and that's as far as his thinking goes. When you tell him to back off, he does. Ah, that's annoying that the girl went defensive like that. At the point I saw she was laughing and joking with UrSofaKing (I didn't know that was NTW!) and she looked to be quite warm, but she was definite…
/r/seduction05/03/11 07:14 AM
2

I'm fluent. For the most part if I'm gaming a Japanese girl, I use Japanese only. I'll occasionally throw out a few words or simple phrases in English just to play up the "exotic" value, but that's about it. Or I'll speak to them in only Japanese all night, but when I'm asking for their number I'll say "can you speak English?" and ask them to send me emails in English. Japanese girls seem to like that.
/r/seduction05/03/11 01:36 AM
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In a nutshell, the point of teasing is to demonstrate that you're not trying to impress her. You should not be showing hostility, just friendly indifference. The idea is that you're confident in yourself and already having a good time, and you don't really care if she's around or not. But since she is, you're going to try and make the most of it by joking and entertaining yourself, possibly at her expense but not in a mean spirited way. Right: Man, what is with that shirt you're wearing? I'm pre…
/r/seduction04/03/11 03:05 AM
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part of me wants to apologize for developing feelings for her and ruining the great and mutually satisfying platonic friendship we had. Get out. Just kidding. Sort of. But, yeah. Tell the loser in your head who made you type those words to get out. That's the worst possible attitude to have. You want the girl, yes? Then let her want you. She's not going to date you as a favor. Be the object of her desire. I don't know the details. Try sending her a text. Say "So there's this girl that I've been …
/r/seduction03/03/11 03:38 AM
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I find that calling beautiful girls ugly in 8 words or less yields very good results. I also once got a rich 20 year old model in NYC with the line "wow you're bendy". She ended up flying to Japan to bone me. I still talk to her to this day. I've also had success with "<favorable comment about profile content>. Too bad I'm not into blondes." Recent example with an HB9: hm 90% match is promising but there's a good chance you're secretly fat also i don't like blondes Hahahahaha! Fantastic! Serious…
/r/seduction03/03/11 03:24 AM
2

I'll just point out that broccoli (and asparagus) makes your semen taste really bad. Strawberries and pineapples make it taste good.
/r/seduction03/03/11 12:38 AM
1

"I really should have cleaned my apartment."
/r/seduction01/03/11 02:28 PM
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Hm. Speaking only for myself, I'd enjoy the subreddit more if it maintained a slightly wider scope than "nothing but FRs and tested methods". Even if we want to be strict about keeping questions in AskSeddit, there are other things that I personally would like to read (and post) here. What about ideas for methods that haven't been tried yet? I don't see the problem with giving and getting input before you hit the field. Maybe you have an idea on Tuesday and you can't go out until Saturday and yo…
/r/seduction01/03/11 01:48 PM
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carpe bitches every diem
/r/seduction28/02/11 11:08 PM
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"That's right", refers to your question: I'm supposed to just say "O.K"? The answer to your question is yes. Understand? If the girl says "I like _____", then you do not "disagree" with that. Understand? It doesn't matter what she likes. You're not in a position to disagree with her regarding what she likes. Is this difficult for you to grasp? It doesn't matter what she says she likes. Farting on the first date was your own example. It could be anything at all. If you disagree, you're always wro…
/r/seduction28/02/11 09:46 AM
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If a girl posts "I love it when a guy farts on a first date", then, that's right. You do not respond with "fuck you fart-sniffer I wouldn't date a fart smeller like you anyway". She's telling you what she likes. You're going to tell her she's wrong? That's not disagreement. That's you being an ass.
/r/seduction28/02/11 09:20 AM
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We voiced our disagreement like we would for any guy who says something we don't agree on. She wasn't asking for tips or agreement. She wasn't asking you how she could win the boy over. The boy already wanted her. She didn't want him. She was telling you why. She was giving her view of a date that ended up as a "drinking with friends, no kiss". The point was to help people see why it played out that way, and give tips on what the guy could possibly have done to get past that. In response to this…
/r/seduction28/02/11 08:58 AM
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Alright, I concede the point and I won't press it. I do think we should be more welcoming of female voices here, though. Even if you and I are above it, there are definitely guys on reddit with issues of anger and hatred towards women, and we should be careful against encouraging an atmosphere where they're comfortable venting those issues here and chasing away valuable female contributors.
/r/seduction27/02/11 11:59 PM
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I might be misunderstanding, but it's not deliberate. Like I said, I agree with the substance of your point. That's why I re-stated it in general terms. Sexual attraction is not based on reason. But you're saying stuff like "we don't listen to women", and essentially berating the poster and dismissing her for having the audacity to post her own perceptions of why she friend-zoned this guy and how he could have done better. It really does look like you're just attacking her because she's female. …
/r/seduction27/02/11 11:47 PM
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Last comment on this and then I'll drop it, but, uh, were you really "addressing sedditors" when you wrote this? Sorry girl, no guy = no snowboarding and no tuna sandwich.
/r/seduction27/02/11 11:42 PM
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That people are not completely privy to the reasons behind their own preferences is a discovery of Psychology. It applies to everyone, and not just to women. I understand that in many cases, especially here, one's only knowledge of Psychology might come through what one has read and learned from PUAs. But this fact about human motivation is not a discovery exclusive to PUAs, who are, by the way, just a certain type of field Psychologist who happen to be more interested in fulfilling their own ap…
/r/seduction27/02/11 11:26 PM
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Yikes. What's with the woman-hating tone? Subtract the misogyny and your point is perfectly valid. We all know humans are not attracted to each other for rational reasons. True enough. But that doesn't mean that introspection and self-analysis is worthless. Nobody is saying to take this girl's self-analysis as gospel. But I certainly don't see any reason to attack it and dismiss it. She's giving you her view of a date she had, and making note of the points where the guy could have done a better …
/r/seduction27/02/11 10:59 PM
2

I grab the girl's hand all the time in crowded places. Mostly because it's a lot easier for me to shoulder through the crowd and then pull the girl behind me in the space I'm opening than it would be to push her ahead of me like a snow plow. Only once did a girl have a problem with it. I reached for her hand and she pulled back and said "... no", but I kind of pretended not to hear and did it anyway. I don't like to force things like that, but the only other option would have been to pull back a…
/r/seduction27/02/11 10:46 PM
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Me: Oh I got to watch out for her because she'll punch people? What will it take to get her to punch someone? Guy: I don't know, grab her toosh or something? Me: oh yea? (My arms already around her so I simply drop it down and grab her ass while looking the guy straight in the eyes) Me: It's not working. Ha! I love it :)
/r/seduction27/02/11 08:36 PM
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At this point I'm just wondering whether she's my alt account, or whether I'm hers.
/r/seduction27/02/11 08:17 PM
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I don't want to say this, especially after the OP's ridiculous "everyone listen to thesacred because he agrees with me" edit. But, man. Accuse me of white knighting, and you'll have a point, but I just don't get this attitude. The girl is telling us about a date that ended in the friend zone, giving us after-the-fact intelligence on why she didn't get attracted enough for it to turn into something more. It's not like she was staying unattracted just to spite the guy. I'm sure she wanted to be in…
/r/seduction27/02/11 07:32 PM
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Really? The OP sounds like exactly my kind of woman. I love analytical girls, and I'm a huge psychology nerd so it would be awesome to date someone actually willing to have that kind of conversation. Unfortunately, if my years at university taught me anything, it's that if a girl says "I love psychology!" and doesn't immediately follow up with her Myers-Briggs score or some other fashion magazine pseudoscience rubbish, then there's a 100% chance she looks like Susan Boyle's uglier sister. 100% c…
/r/seduction27/02/11 06:56 PM
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Okay then. Where to begin? First, what you wrote didn't address my claim. My claim is twofold: 1) People can (sometimes) tell you what they like. 2) People can never tell you why they like it. Your response is that I underestimate people's "intelligence" and "personal understanding of their own emotions". Neither of these two things is related to my claim. Einstein is intelligent. Einstein loves sausages. Does it follow that Einstein can tell you why he loves sausages? No, it does not. When I am…
/r/seduction27/02/11 06:37 PM
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I agree with this. Maybe this could be reduced to a general rule: if she's not with you, don't buy her a drink. If she's with you, go ahead and buy her one. There may be gray areas about when the girl is or is not technically "with you", but for me even if I just met a girl, if I've been talking to her for a while and it's pretty obvious that I'm at least going to get her number and maybe see her again, then I don't mind buying her a drink as long as there's some better pretext for it than "I'm …
/r/seduction27/02/11 06:26 PM
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If I'm chatting with a girl who has an empty drink and I get the vibe that she's not going to buy another one, I'll sometimes playfully give her some task to do and offer to buy a drink if she succeeds. The other day I told a girl "if you can guess my age on the first try, I'll buy you a drink". She got it, and I congratulated her and bought her the drink. This way she "earned" it, and I can keep her there and drinking without coming across as just another loser trying to buy her drinks to win a…
/r/seduction27/02/11 06:17 PM
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Nothing you said there is even coherent enough to respond to, so rather than patronize you by pretending you're making sense, I'd like to ask you to pause for a moment and seriously consider the possibility that you're a fucking idiot.
/r/seduction27/02/11 06:07 PM
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Bullshit. People can sometimes tell you what they like. They can never tell you why they like it. That's just not how human minds work. That's why social science needs to use experiments rather than just introspection and "deep" conversations. And it's also why, to date, social science is still mostly bunk.
/r/seduction27/02/11 05:41 PM
1

Well, that's kind of what an interview is. They're determining whether or not they want you. Your job is to make sure that they do.
/r/seduction27/02/11 12:36 PM
1

As regards Japan and Japanese women, I can confirm that everything you say is true. You go to one of the most popular bars or clubs on a Friday night in Tokyo, the biggest metropolis in the world, and you'll probably see a couple of 9s and maybe a 10. They exist, but it's definitely not the cornucopia it looks like when you first arrive. I look back now at pictures of the girls I thought were 10s when I first arrived, and the only way I would even talk to them now is if I was wingmanning for a f…
/r/seduction27/02/11 12:26 PM
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I remember that :) Something else kind of funny happened with those two who were by the door (the ones whose food I was stealing). Later when I was elsewhere in the bar working other sets, I noticed that every time guys approached those two, they would point at me to get rid of the guys, apparently saying something like "sorry, we're with him". This was especially interesting because they had been such a tough approach at first. For the first 3 minutes I really just had to keep grinning and bein…
/r/seduction26/02/11 06:58 AM
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Nah, we were drinking and flirting and she had fun. No harm, no foul. And yeah if she manages to get my number from HB9 and actually calls me then I will see her. In that case I'll go and have a nice drink or light meal with her and we'll have fun and I'll make sure it ends with me firmly in the friend zone. I'll play it up like I'm a really "nice guy" but we're not romantically compatible, and if things work out right she'll actually be encouraging her friend to date me.
/r/seduction26/02/11 06:36 AM
2

I like shit tests. When a girl gives me a shit test it means 1) she is not easy and 2) she is giving me a shot. What more could I ask for? Honestly, the chase is 90% of the fun. I want the girl to put up a bit of a fight. If she rolls right over without giving me a single shit test to pass then I start to wonder what is up. I'm not that good looking.
/r/seduction25/02/11 07:43 PM
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I agree with this. Different people will have different things that work for them, of course, but for me with day game I just make it very overt that I'm hitting on the girl. As long as I don't look nervous there's no awkwardness. One thing I often say early on is "so, do you have a boyfriend?" And if she says "no, do you have a girlfriend?" then I say "hey, whoa now, that's personal!" or something to that effect. And if she says yes, well, I pretend she said no anyway :P Being up-front, direct,…
/r/seduction24/02/11 01:29 AM
1

I actually don't really enjoy having sex with no strings attached with a lot of different partners. Really I want an emotional commitment as well as physical intimacy. I do pickup because I know from experience that the worst way to get into a (worthwhile) LTR is to go around looking for an LTR. Once I finally find that elusive HB10 I really connect with and want to stay with forever, I'll stop trolling the bars and sleeping with a different girl every other night. Until then, well, how else am …
/r/seduction22/02/11 09:25 AM
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The "creepy" accusation isn't really that bad. It's just a question of how you react to it. I've had girls call me creepy and then go home with me later. It's just what rustoof said, a generic phrase that girls have started throwing out whenever a guy shows more interest than they're showing. The old "affirm and amplify" technique works to defuse it, as does any standard shit-test response. I can think of one specific case of a girl who called me creepy, at a "no pants dance party" on a college …
/r/seduction22/02/11 09:10 AM
1

Nice work. Thanks for the follow up. My same-day texts have been falling flat, over and over. It's interesting to see that it works for others. Something for me to consider.
/r/seduction22/02/11 09:03 AM
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"No? Well, exactly how cute am I?" Uh, you look like <deragatory thing>. "Wow, I didn't know you were so attracted to <deragotory thing>." You could say almost anything. You could just laugh. You could take the opportunity to smile and give her a hug as if that's what she was asking for, and then go right back to her friend to make her even more jealous. Just about anything in the world would be better than "sorry you feel that way". That's a complete fail on every count. You're reacting to her,…
/r/seduction22/02/11 07:49 AM
2

I almost never open my target first. I make a point to get around to her last, seemingly as an afterthought. It works for me. By the time I get to her, she doesn't have her shields up, and she's already in self-qualifying mode, trying to reassert herself as the cutest one in the group and rightful recipient of my attention.
/r/seduction21/02/11 08:41 AM
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Did you at least #-close the old lady
/r/seduction21/02/11 07:03 AM
1

Yeah, I actually don't mind high energy wings like that. I say, go for it, come on in and kino everyone. Just spread it around evenly and don't stay focused on my target. Every time my buddy comes over to do a round of kino I'l laugh and pull my target in closer. As long as he doesn't actively try to block me or draw her attention away then it's all to the good.
/r/seduction21/02/11 06:51 AM
1

Oh god, I hate this too. Sometimes for push/pull I need to move away and let the girl come after me. It's so annoying when a buddy then moves in and keeps her rooted to the spot while I fade out of memory.
/r/seduction21/02/11 06:48 AM
2

Username is relevant
/r/seduction21/02/11 06:04 AM
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I liked the Tyler Durden post about shit tests where he points out that, while you should never do it, hitting the girl is one way to pass a shit test. You've got to admire the fact that he included that, for the sake of completeness. ;)
/r/seduction21/02/11 05:51 AM
2

Bad crash and burn at the end. Sounds like a simple case of you getting too drunk too fast, and losing your frame. When in doubt, if you lose confidence and feel like talking to the girl from a weak position, just clam up. Silence is much easier to cover for later than whatever the hell you're going to say in that state. I've had this problem a lot of times, where even after an f-close I will decide I like a girl too much to keep gaming her and I'll come out with some horrible line like "when ca…
/r/seduction20/02/11 11:09 AM
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Ah, fuck. Sleeping with a friend's girlfriend is the biggest violation of the bro-code in the book. I want to condemn you, but I'd have to take the mote out of my own eye first. Alcohol is a hell of a drug, eh? I can't believe you actually told the guy. That's... impressive. I don't know if it's a good idea or not, but it's definitely impressive.
/r/seduction20/02/11 10:01 AM
2

Awesome. Post a follow up. I'd be interested to know how the immediate after-text worked. I like the idea of momentum and immediate texting, but it never works for me. I hate waiting to text a girl, and waiting to hear back. But so far, giving it a shitload of time is the only strategy that has worked for me.
/r/seduction20/02/11 09:56 AM
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The idea of being an "alpha male" never appealed to me. I mean, if it helps some people to think in those terms, then I can see why they should go for it. I guess I just dislike the terminology mostly, since it implies dominance and rivalry. I've already got plenty of confidence, so tacking on an "alpha male" mentality to my current personality would just be injecting an aspect of dominance over others that I have no interest in. Like you say, I'd like to be a thoughtful and self-assured guy wit…
/r/seduction19/02/11 09:56 AM
1

I've been doing this for a while, just because it really is easier to keep track of a bunch of notepad entries than a single contact list where actual leads and friends are mixed in with random bar girls I'll never hear from again. If a girl asks me why I'm not putting her in my contacts, I just say "yeah, I'll probably add you in later". Or, I say "alright, I will. Hold on, I'll take a contact picture", and use that as an excuse to get a pic of her. This helps the next day when I'm trying to re…
/r/seduction18/02/11 11:57 AM
4

That's awesome. I've used the twin line too, like "hey were you in _____ last night? I saw a girl who looks just like you!" Another one I've had some success with against a cold number is "hey who is this?"
/r/seduction17/02/11 01:29 AM
3

Thanks for this. After years of working at it, I'm pretty successful at picking up beautiful women, and so far I've always been pretty headstrong about finding and trusting my own path, eschewing any and all PUA-style literature on the reasoning that if it's valuable, I probably know it already and if it's not, I don't need to know it. But after reading your answers and then checking out some parts of the love systems website, I really did get some insights that I think will improve my game. Spe…
/r/seduction16/02/11 11:35 AM
1

And yet, you left the "then" intact.
/r/seduction16/02/11 02:02 AM
1

I made this mistake with an HB10 that I met recently and I'm kicking myself for it. When I saw her I started off really well, I got her attention, I chatted her up and displayed lots of easy confidence, got her attracted, and as we flirted and moved from one bar to the next I kept providing her with hoops to jump through and keeping her at arms length. Finally I mentioned that I live close to where we were drinking and she started asking to see my apartment, and I played it right by saying no. I…
/r/seduction16/02/11 01:55 AM
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I've been trying to do this as well. I've been daygaming a lot with no alcohol. I don't have a problem with AA, but without some booze in me I find I run out of things to say really quickly, and I lose interest in what she's saying. Basically I'm good to go for the first 30 seconds, with or without alcohol, but after that when I'm sober I start to lose the energy and eventually I just back out of it. The conversation eventually starts to fall into a familiar pattern and I get bored of it, and ca…
/r/seduction13/02/11 09:15 PM
1

I just now saw this post. I love the part about picking up the girl with the headphones. I went out yesterday to do some day game, and every girl I saw had headphones in. I was waiting for a cutie to come along so I could try to do exactly what you did, but I saw nothing better than HB5 all day. Day game is a whole different world. I really want to work on it more.
/r/seduction08/02/11 04:42 PM
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I'm the same way. Hence the freezeout and denial of "permission". But at that point I'd already spent my evening on her and she was already in my apartment, and it was either go ahead and get sex, or don't. Are you saying you would have told the girl to put on her clothes and get out? That actually was my first reaction. But then I thought, oh what the hell. She's cute. We met at a club. Shit happens. May as well just go through with it.
/r/seduction04/02/11 07:27 AM
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I use this as an opener a lot, especially with HB8 and higher. Confident friendly smile. "Hey! Are you <girl's name>?" Extend hand for shake, excited and happy eye contact. She says no, embarassed. You shake her hand anyway, laughing, and say "Oops. Wow, you look just like my friend <name>. " And take it from there. For extra teasing, negging, throwback humor later, you can "slip up" a few times during the night and call her the other name. I find that a lot of the time the girl will do this, ap…
/r/seduction03/02/11 07:51 AM
2

It could be. But then why mention him at all?
/r/seduction02/02/11 05:05 PM
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I really think the thing to do is own it. Don't try to hide it. Combing your hair in a certain particular way might make you look good in the mirror or in a photo, but it looks really bad to everyone around you. The best thing to do is just to cut it short. Not necessarily shaved, but short enough that you're just a guy with short hair. Grow a beard or get piercings or find some other way to make your hair a less prominent part of your appearance. There are plenty of attractive guys with very sh…
/r/seduction02/02/11 05:02 PM
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I'm considering getting a pet rock for this purpose.
/r/seduction02/02/11 07:41 AM
3

I've had a lot of success by disqualifying girls along the lines of "oh god, we could never get married. Your name would be <her name> <my last name>. Yuck!"
/r/seduction01/02/11 08:49 PM
3

The principle of occupying a lot of space holds true, though. For tall, lanky guys slouching is definitely a bad idea. But standing up straight and making the most of your height is a huge, huge advantage. I had a roommate who was 6'9 and an extreme AFC with crushing social anxiety. One weekend I bought him a funny hat, told him to stand up straight with his shoulders back, and took him downtown. He said it was the most amazing experience of his life. Guys and girls were saying hi to him on the …
/r/seduction01/02/11 02:15 PM
1

Yeah, I didn't mean to step on your toes. In general I always try to DHV my wingman. You've seen me do it.
/r/seduction01/02/11 09:07 AM
1

Also, about the impromptu party, I was waiting for an in with that girl, but I wasn't going to hold up the move to the party. I kept saying I'm ready to go, I'm ready to go. I just wasn't going to be able to help rounding up the people, because I had to be the last one out the door. I was going to use that situation as a reason to break in between the girl and the guy she was with saying, "hey we're all going to X, why don't you come? No? Okay, let me get your email and we'll hang out next time"…
/r/seduction01/02/11 08:37 AM
1

I see what you're saying, but that was not my read of the situation at all. I kino them both because targeting one only at that point would signal that we're up to something. Like you called me over to "take her friend". Instead of giving that impression, I establish that I'm just upbeat and really physical with everyone. Thus established, I leave the other and focus on the friend all night. That's what I did. We got the venue change and things couldn't have worked better. When I asked "which on…
/r/seduction01/02/11 08:26 AM
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You wound me. See my comments above. I'm surprised you would think I would monopolize two girls when I have a friend there. I was literally begging one of you to come and take the other girl. Recall, I sent you half a dozen texts saying GET HERE, with pics of the girls even. I always pick a target and stick to it, and when I want to change I clear it with the other guy. You've seen me do this when we were working that table with reseddit, for instance.
/r/seduction01/02/11 08:11 AM
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This would have worked amazingly. These two girls were very much on the hook for that kind of thing, and something like that would have gotten them both laughing and clapping.
/r/seduction01/02/11 08:08 AM
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If hugging the girl and calling her "MY RINA" doesn't work as a signal then I don't know what would. ;) I'd say the lesson is, if someone introduces you to two girls, pay attention to which one he's telling you to go for. But actually I think I understand where the confusion came from. I cleared a seat for Cachondo next to Yuki and went to Rina, but we venue changed almost immediately, and during the walk over Cachondo ended up talking to Rina. Yuki was walking faster, and I didn't want to hold …
/r/seduction01/02/11 08:01 AM
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No, no. It was purely miscommunication, and I can tell you exactly what happened. When you walked in to the hub, I made it crystal clear. I cleared a spot for you next to Yuki, and I said "This is Yuki!", then I stood up, walked to Rina, and said "AND THIS IS MY RINA" and gave her a hug and a kiss on the cheek. You didn't see that because you were already talking over me and not looking my direction. You were talking to Yuki, and I ended up introducing Rina to the back of your head and looking a…
/r/seduction01/02/11 07:52 AM
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I talked to a very pretty girl who sat next to me on a plane once, flying from Tokyo to NYC. We hit it off, I got her number, we went on a couple of dates in NYC and nothing happened after that. The end.
/r/seduction31/01/11 10:37 AM
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Also it's not like TofuTofu is going up and snatching the girl out of the guy's lap against her protests. All she had to do was say "sorry, I'm with him" or let him know his advances were not wanted, and it ends there. She did not do that. Quite the opposite. So who do you imagine is the victim here? The guy who lost the girl? If that was really his girl, he could have said something to her. He could have gotten her attention back, or prompted her to blow TofuTofu off. There are a million things…
/r/seduction31/01/11 09:41 AM
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Yeah, you should come out with us on our next TokyoSeddit sarging event. There are a few of us who go out quite regularly. Going out with guys who have no AA and know how to wingman and when to fade into the background makes a huge difference, especially when approaching groups. Having the "let's all go together!" angle also works wonders for venue changes.
/r/seduction31/01/11 05:32 AM
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When dating a new girl I always push for sex right away, just because it makes things easier later since you know where you stand. I have never once in my life been "friend zoned" by a girl, and I get sex on the first date more often than not. Ultimately it will depend on the girl. The best you can do to get to sex on the first date is to just do your part and let her do hers. Doing your part means being overtly physical from the get go. Not in a high pressure way, but in a casual way, like it's…
/r/seduction31/01/11 05:17 AM
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I believe that you should put yourself in a womans shoes and really think about what drives them, what turns them on, what they need or want in life. Think of all the different kinds of women in this world and try hard to imagine how you come across to them I think this is the key. The techniques that work, work because they allow you to present yourself as what the girl is looking for in a man, consciously or otherwise. These factors will vary for each individual girl, but some traits (confiden…
/r/seduction30/01/11 08:54 AM
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Really, if a girl comments on it, it's probably a test. Just be playful and confident and it will work for you instead of against you. Like with any physical flaw, if the girl points it out she's probably testing how she should react to it. She's looking for your response, so it's a chance for you to shape her reaction. If you make it no big deal, or even something that's cute and endearing, then it will be. If your hair is buzzed, let the girl rub your head and act like it's your erogenous zone…
/r/seduction28/01/11 07:56 AM
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They say hair loss triggered by too much testosterone. It must be true, because I lost all my hair at age 13. Pelvic thrust.
/r/seduction28/01/11 07:50 AM
1

Right. In fact, sexual selection plays a much more important role in speciation than natural selection. Look at peacocks. Those tails are a huge evolutionary disadvantage. Female peacocks dig them, largely for that very reason. And so the tails stay.
/r/seduction28/01/11 06:29 AM
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This is why my three-pronged prehensile penis makes me the talk of every social gathering
/r/seduction28/01/11 06:27 AM
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Yeah. In the event it happens, it's impossible to say exactly what it means without knowing the specific situation. In the case that brought this up, the girl had been flirty and receptive, and there was a good conversational pretext for getting the number at that moment, but she turned out to be in a serious long term relationship (which she had been concealing from me for obvious reasons) with a guy who was also friends with the female coworkers sitting right next to her. This meant she couldn…
/r/seduction28/01/11 06:01 AM
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I'm overly logical and unemotional by nature. I like crazy girls. They are stimulating. I love when they get drunk on their own juices and start chasing their own tail, throwing shit all over the place and crying for no reason. From a psychological standpoint, that stuff is gold.
/r/seduction28/01/11 05:03 AM
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Again, this is given. It's about what happens next. This post is about a face saving tactic. If you're not in a situation where you need to save face (i.e., no other girls are looking and you won't see your target again), then obviously you don't need it.
/r/seduction28/01/11 05:00 AM
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Almost never. That's why after so many years I only recently improvised this response. I'm sharing it for what it's worth.
/r/seduction28/01/11 04:59 AM
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If a newcomer told me "don't touch her" I'd automatically go into standoff mode against him, and shut him out. He gets no response. Without acknowledging him I turn to the girl and say "It's fine, right?" Almost guaranteed that she nods, or at most says nothing (which you take as a nod), and the drunk guy stumbles away angry.
/r/seduction28/01/11 04:13 AM
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<To your friend> So anyway, like I was saying, I couldn't believe that play last night Different situation. My tactic assumes that you're in the middle of an extended 1-on-1 with the girl, or by yourself with the girl and her friends. That's implied. If you're with your own friend, or you don't care about the girl's future attitude toward you, then why would you need a face saving tactic? This is not as common or as serious as you're making it out to be. I didn't make it out to be common or seri…
/r/seduction28/01/11 02:11 AM
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Yes, a tiny fraction of the time. A tiny fraction is still more than zero.
/r/seduction28/01/11 01:57 AM
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I disagree. Or maybe I didn't explain the point well enough. Yes, ideally the number is a small part of the flow of conversation. Yes, ideally you get it without a hitch. This post is about the those times when it does come up as an unexpected hitch. This breaks the flow of conversation, puts you on the defensive, and now you've got to do something with the phone she hands back to you. The point of the paternalistic tone is to piss her off. She's back on the defensive now, and you have the osten…
/r/seduction28/01/11 01:47 AM
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In an even louder voice, "How about you move your fat ass out of the way so I can stand up?" Make eye contact with her and hold it. Then turn to the class and finish what you were going to say. Like a boss. Hard to think of in the moment, of course. Almost as good would have been to let it play out like it did, then when you went to sit back down, say "Okay now please move your fat ass aside so I can get back in my chair. Thanks."
/r/seduction27/01/11 10:53 AM
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That kind of thing is pretty standard in Japan. I dated a Japanese girl who cried at the movie Cars. Japanese women are a very sentimental bunch. I dig it. It's feminine. I still ridicule them for it though.
/r/seduction27/01/11 10:39 AM
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I tripped up on this question when a girl asked me it the other day. She asked me while we were in bed, still hung over. I answered immediately without stopping to think, which was good, except that I came out with "yeah, I did. But I really am going to keep dating you now." Yeah. Wince. I don't know what the hell I was trying to do with that. "Yeah I did" is fine, if my goal was to keep her qualifying herself to me, and maintain suspense in the relationship. So far, so good. Except I immediatel…
/r/seduction27/01/11 08:40 AM
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I'll never understand why some girls will actually go into the love hotel with you and then start lmr. It's like, you just came with me into a love hotel! Who are you fooling?
/r/seduction27/01/11 02:05 AM
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Is this intended for me? I don't think I am generally dominant. Personally I don't tend to frame my relations in terms of dominant or submissive. I don't especially enjoy being in either role, really. I'm kind of a loner by nature, and I prefer to be independent. However, I have social needs just like everyone else, and I take a rational approach to meeting them. So, when interacting socially, (especially with girls I want to date), I try to be confident, self-assured, and charming. Because that…
/r/seduction26/01/11 10:45 AM
2

This happened to me yesterday. I was talking with a girl in the morning on the way to work, and I told her to meet me again at 10pm. She said she can't make that, as she had plans earlier in the day. I got the sense that she wanted me to press rather than accommodate, so affecting a magnanimous "okay, you win" tone I said alright then, see you at 10:10. She said I'll do my best. Sure enough I text her at around 8pm to confirm our place of meeting up and she says, I'm going to run later than I th…
/r/seduction26/01/11 07:30 AM
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FR: AMOG'd 3 AFCs in set w/ HB9. No IOI. Neg and Kino (AA gtfo). DHV, PP, F-Close w/o LMR or LJBF.
/r/seduction26/01/11 07:04 AM
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Everything I wrote was about putting theory into practice. What, did I not use enough acronyms for you? I didn't say the girl just wandered up to me and I took her home. I told how I opened with a group of strangers, dealt with the guys first to disarm them, talked to the friend to establish myself, then made the (awkward but necessary) transition to the target and relied on my skilled friend to defuse the girl who wanted to go home. I mentioned how I kept my target focused on me instead of the …
/r/seduction26/01/11 06:46 AM
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It's a field report. What do you want? If it's not useful, or if I did a bad job writing it, downvote it and move on. Edit: And if it makes you feel better, I hooked up with her again the following night when we were both dead sober. If you're going to say the influence of alcohol disqualifies a pick-up, then you just ruled out, for starters, the entire club/bar scene, which happens to be where most humans in 1st world countries go to find sexual mates these days. Not sure if you knew that. Edit…
/r/seduction26/01/11 06:23 AM
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Stand then Hub then a cool little dive bar I know in the area
/r/seduction26/01/11 04:14 AM
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Today I've been suffering through work with a killer hangover, but throughout the day little snatches of what I said to her have been coming back to me. One noteworthy bit that I think ended up being significant was that I noticed she'd gotten her nails done and I commented on it. I do that a lot, because it's an excuse to hold the girl's hand and get her talking about herself. I found out that she'd just had them done that day, and it was the first time she'd ever shelled out to have a professi…
/r/seduction25/01/11 12:17 PM
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That's very odd behavior for a 30 year old. I would have gotten frustrated around the 20th "so bad" and given up. Nice job hanging in there. You earned it.
/r/seduction24/01/11 08:11 AM
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Yeah this is not something I would ever do myself, but I can see how it could work and be fun. :) Cool technique
/r/seduction24/01/11 06:50 AM
3

From personal experience, I get a lot more call-backs and follow-up dates when the girl pays. When I pay, the chances that I'll never see her again skyrocket. Psychologically, it makes good sense. If she got a free meal and free drinks, then she's "ahead". She might be asked to pay for both next time, or she might feel awkward wondering if you're going to pay again or if she should pay, or what. Little things like that can make her less enthused about the prospect of another date. Meanwhile if s…
/r/seduction24/01/11 05:29 AM
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So fucking what? Turn off the "show stalkers" option so she won't know if you go to her profile. Turn off your IM so she won't see you as online at any given time. She'll see that you've been logging in but that's it. You never said you wouldn't have internet, just that you're not going to be in town. If she writes to you asking you anything, then that's exactly what you want. Don't respond. Let her wait for you to get back to her.
/r/seduction24/01/11 05:21 AM
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No. You don't have to give her a reason. And who cares if you have internet access? You're too busy to be sending her email.
/r/seduction24/01/11 04:51 AM
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If you're really just not interested in pursuing it any further, at least for a while, then don't burn bridges. Tell her you're going on a trip overseas and you'll be back next month. Say, "send me a message and we'll meet up when I get back". Ball's in her court, and you have no pressure to message her because you're not even in the country.
/r/seduction24/01/11 04:33 AM
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Why not try and save it instead? If you're going to lose, then put it all on the line and lose. Giving up is the coward's way out. There's always a way. Always.
/r/seduction24/01/11 04:31 AM
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That is horrible advice. But there's not much actual advice anyone can give you based on the scant information you've provided. Post some messages or give some background and explain how you fucked it up, then maybe you'll get a better response.
/r/seduction24/01/11 04:21 AM
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In general even if you're playing the DHV angle, it's much better to let her find out than to tell her outright. I'd say the way to play it is just to say "ah sorry, I'm busy on Thursday. How about _____?" If she presses you later about what you did on Thursday you can tell her you were with a friend but let some little detail slip to suggest it was a date. That way you get the DHV plus plausible deniability.
/r/seduction23/01/11 07:54 PM
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"I've had a family emergency" "OMG I LOVE SUSHI"
/r/seduction23/01/11 07:10 PM
1

Yeah, just stay aloof and keep her in suspense so she doesn't get too comfortable. Keep her working to try and "get" you. I should say, for me this is the weakest part of my game, especially after I've already slept with a girl. I tend to "disclose" way too soon and take it for granted that it's a done deal now and there's no more gaming to be done, so I stop bothering with the aloofness and I start seeking attention/ego boost/companionship/sex way too often and way too blatantly. This comes bac…
/r/seduction23/01/11 01:09 PM
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Awesome advice
/r/seduction23/01/11 07:21 AM
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The really good looking Japanese girls generally don't go for more than a month at a time without a boyfriend, ever. Grab her now. Monopolize her time as much as you can. But make her feel like she's pursuing you. Just make sure you're the #1 candidate for the next boyfriend, and don't do anything to ruin it, and it sounds like you're in.
/r/seduction22/01/11 06:14 PM
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Sometimes I look at the guy and bare my teeth like an enraged gorilla. Haha. Making sure the girl doesn't see of course.
/r/seduction22/01/11 07:37 AM
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My mom bought me this shirt.
/r/seduction22/01/11 06:54 AM
1

This is based on my experience, but the approach with Japanese girls is easy as long as you do can be be confident and interesting (as always), and also take care not to come on too strong or scare the girl. Japanese girls tend to be very passive when it comes to the hook-up game, and they will usually let the guy do the approach. As long as you have their attention, they will bat their eyes at you and laugh at your jokes, but if you take that as too much of a signal and charge in then you'll sc…
/r/seduction22/01/11 06:15 AM
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Here's a tip. Don't look at your phone for tips while you're trying to hit on a girl. If you're running out of stuff to say, you're trying way too hard and you're overthinking. Be alert to her cues. Be very, very easygoing. Make it look like you're completely relaxed and in your element, and make it all about her. React to her cues, watch her eyes, get her talking and respond to everything she says as genuinely as you can, but without shutting her down or being negative. If there's a lull in con…
/r/seduction21/01/11 11:11 AM
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I don't know what just happened but I'm assuming somebody just got burned.
/r/seduction21/01/11 10:24 AM
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My advice: Don't burn the bridge. That means don't call her. And do not text her again. For now, focus on other girls. Put her on the back burner and wait to see if she comes around. Wait two weeks. After two weeks if still nothing, then you text her "Hey this is XXXXXX. Do you remember me?" You could leave the text there, which forces her to say "Yes", and if she won't even respond to that then skip to the final move below. If you don't want to leave it at that, you can append something like "I…
/r/seduction21/01/11 10:10 AM
1

I have a few friends who are always ridiculously late, and I've found that waiting for them in bars is actually a very fertile scenario. You're by yourself so you're mobile and free to always take the cutest one in any group, but you're not "alone". Your friends are on their way, which you can point out. What sucks is if the friends then don't show up at all, or the targets leave before your friends get there, and you look like you were just pretending not to be alone. But oh well. :)
/r/seduction21/01/11 08:52 AM
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Ah I remember that place. The first time I went, as I was going down the stairs to get into the place a string of painfully beautiful russian girls in miniskirts was walking out. I joke to the bouncer about my bad timing: I got here just when all the hotties left! Then I got inside and saw 20 or 30 more where those came from. Oh.
/r/seduction21/01/11 08:00 AM
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I know it doesn't really count, but I can think of a ton of times when I've met a girl online and gone from first meeting to sex almost immediately, like the one I mentioned here. I meet girls from the net a lot (in Japan, girls have always used the web from their phones, not computers. So it's possible to meet just about anyone at a site like mixi). And on first meeting I always begin physical contact immediately, and if she happens to be completely receptive right off the bat then it's not unc…
/r/seduction21/01/11 07:50 AM
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I like that. I've often settled on a similar approach, especially in Japan where the cockblocking can get ridiculous. When the cockblocker moves in on me, I look him in the face and smile real big like I'm his best friend in the world. Get him laughing and wanting to be my buddy, then turn on a dime to brush him off and focus on the girl. At that point he either has to drop the ball and pull my shoulder to try and fight, or he has to walk away and pretend he doesn't care. Either way, he's out of…
/r/seduction21/01/11 07:14 AM
1

This is extremely true. Night and day in roppongi is as different as... uh, Yeah. Daytime in roppongi is where you'll find classy girls, 9s and 10s that are worth the effort. Nighttime in roppongi you may find some 10s, but they're russian and definitely not for touching.
/r/seduction21/01/11 07:05 AM
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When I first came to Japan I was at a school with 80% female student population, way out in the middle of nowhere. I had orders of magnitude more sex in that year with more partners than probably most normal human beings have in a lifetime. Way more than a guy with my so-so looks and (at that time) pretty lame flirting skills ever had any right to have. So that definitely skewed my perception of how easy it is. Now it's years later and I'm in Tokyo, working a regular office job and speaking only…
/r/seduction21/01/11 05:35 AM
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If possible you want to live on the west side of Tokyo, not the east. Shibuya, Shinjuku, Roppongi, Harajuku, somewhere in that area. Beyond that, it's up to you. If you want to live in the English-language bubble there's a huge one to occupy you, especially in the Roppongi area. You'll be restricted to the girls inside bubble, but there is no shortage of those. But if you decide to learn the language and leave the bubble you'll become much more of a rarity and you can cast your net wider.
/r/seduction21/01/11 04:04 AM
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There are plenty. As long as you don't mind paying exorbitant amounts of money to live in a broom closet.
/r/seduction21/01/11 03:00 AM
1

You should miraculously become a christian and get hired by a Japanese hotel as a wedding chaplain. I hear those guys make pretty good money, and you work like 4 days a month if that. :) At your age you could probably pull off the look, and that's all that matters.
/r/seduction21/01/11 02:59 AM
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Stick to roppongi and you'll never hear a word of Japanese. Even in Shibuya and Shinjuku in a lot of places you're actually better off with no Japanese. Girls get disappointed if they find out they can't use you for English practice.
/r/seduction20/01/11 04:25 PM
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Yes. Usually one points and laughs at the person who did the thing they're making fun of. So. Why are you pointing at him?
/r/seduction20/01/11 03:43 PM
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At one point I scheduled two dates on a single night, partly by mistake and partly because I expected one girl to flake out. Turns out she didn't, but I was already on the way to the station to meet the other girl when I got the call telling me so. The girl I was en route to meeting was a Japanese girl that I'd chatted with online (maybe 8 lines of text exchanged total), and I was meeting her for the first time. So, with nothing to lose, just as an experiment and since I was a bit drunk, when I …
/r/seduction20/01/11 03:29 PM
1

True enough that boasting should not be the point. But it makes the story a lot more interesting, I think. Personally I hate to read about hot women without seeing pictures. But I also recognize posting pics can be frowned upon. So I haven't done it. I guess I won't.
/r/seduction20/01/11 03:18 PM
1

Why are you pointing at him? I'm the spaghetti immolator.
/r/seduction20/01/11 03:16 PM
1

Okay, I will definitely do that. Next time I'm bored at work. So, in about 12 hours. :P
/r/seduction20/01/11 02:32 PM
2

Ah man, I have a date on Saturday ... with a super cute 20 y/o girl I pulled in an izakaya two months ago and closed with a week later. She wants me to cook with her... which should be hilarious since the last time I tried to cook anything I managed to catch spaghetti on fire. The girl is hot enough to be worth making the effort though. (Am I allowed post pics of girls here?)
/r/seduction20/01/11 02:31 PM
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I suspected there would be quite a few.
/r/seduction20/01/11 11:38 AM
2

Great. I am located in Shibuya and I'm always ready to go chase girls. I just recently moved back here but taken all together I've been in the country a long time. I'm fluent at the language and I can talk myself into or out of any situation that arises (almost ;). I do all of my Nanpa in Japanese (except if she's a 10 and she wants to use her English, of course). I have plenty of buddies who use English, though. I can roll along with either. I tend to have more success in bars and places where …
/r/seduction20/01/11 11:31 AM
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I live in Shibuya. Send me a message and we'll hit a few bars sometime. I know my way around.
/r/seduction20/01/11 11:09 AM
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yo
/r/seduction20/01/11 11:04 AM
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I knew I was going to see Japan posts right after I self.posted asking if anyone's in Japan. Sure enough. :)
/r/seduction20/01/11 10:56 AM
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