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Of course women are more selective, but you don't think its possible to change what they select based on? Our tastes are malleable. It won't happen overnight, but it will work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:40 PM
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You ever watch any of those shows on TLC about fat people? Like "My 600lb Life" for example? There's always at least one scene where the fat person in question is trying to eat healthy and hates it; wretching at the taste of a brussels sprout or whatever. Do we agree with them, that veggies are just inherently, naturally gross? Of course not, we understand that they've warped their sense of taste by subsisting on ranch and coca cola for 15 years. I think all tastes are like that. I think women c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:20 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? Have you ever watched an episode of Cops? You will see how common it is for an abused woman to defend her abuser. He'll be fighting the police as they drag him away in handcuffs for beating her, and she'll beg them to let him go. What do you propose red pilled men do about that? If she doesn't want help, how can anyone help her?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:31 AM
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They need lower standards on superficial shit like height, and way higher standards on things that matter, like abuse-related red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:57 AM
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Which part of that is victim blaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:28 AM
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Did I do that? Can you quote it please?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:20 AM
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The abuser is a vile piece of shit, but saying that doesn't stop him. What do you want us to do? Tell him abuse is bad? As if he'd never heard that before?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:59 AM
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She has to want out in the first place. You ever watch any episodes of Cops or LivePD? There's always a clip in which there's a domestic disturbance call. The police end up dragging away some obvious dirtbag abuser who resists arrest the whole time, while his wife/gf with visible bruises or black eyes begs the police to not take him. What do you propose anyone do for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:20 PM
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What solution do you propose instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:07 PM
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How she ended up there doesn't change the fact that she's the only one who can fix that situation. No one is coming to save her; she would refuse them if they tried anyways. It really is up to her to pick better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:51 PM
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A lot of them are bots or thots advertising OnlyFans pages. There's also a lot of people on the apps with no intention of meeting anyone; they just want validation and maybe some light flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:56 AM
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Hell, there's an industry dedicated to it! Who do you think is buying vibrators?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 06:11 PM
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women are not given the same space or encouragement to masturbate Who is giving men space or encouragement to masturbate?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 04:06 PM
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The "You love me, right?" insinuation is a massive red flag. Guaranteed she's not getting the money at that point. But lets say she doesn't say that; it depends. If she's normally good with money and just had a sudden expense, or she needs help on something reasonable, sure, I'll help. If I know she constantly wastes money and/or racks up stupid debt, she can figure it out herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 04:28 PM
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you can’t control someone else’s actions, only your own Funny how OP says this, then tries to control how people act.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:57 AM
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Red Pill doesn't inform what you want. It tries to tell you how to get what you want. Why some ugly manlet would want to sneak his crappy DNA in the gene pool? First of all, this is the exact kind of low self-esteem defeatist bullshit RP tells you to fix. The over-arching theme of RP is "Don't hate yourself." Second, who gives a shit about the "gene pool"? Also, being born in working class sucks, having crappy genes sucks. Do red pillers even care about the kids that will inherit all this crap M…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:21 PM
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Every other day there is a thread on r/AskMen in which a woman asks something like "I glanced in a man's general direction for 3.2 seconds, why didn't he understand that super-obvious signal that I'm interested?"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 04:59 PM
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They're over 6 feet tall too, that's a big selling point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:40 AM
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There is essentially no IRL place that women haven't told them not to approach at. Even the bar isn't safe; "She's just out with her friends, she's not there to date. She's just there to dance, leave her alone!" I know it's not all women saying these things, but if you are actually interested in being respectful, you probably do worry about whether or not the pretty girl you're thinking of approaching feels that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:18 AM
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Women often say they have "women's intuition" or that they can just tell some guy is a creep, but either that's not the case, or women -can- tell and pick abusers anyways. Guys don't say we have magic intuition. We know we're dumb and easily tricked by a pretty girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 03:38 PM
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The same people who say the patriarchy hurts men too are also the same ones who insist what we name things matters, while claiming that feminism isn't just for the feminine.
/r/MensRights16/01/25 06:59 AM
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Title IX is the law regarding, among other things, sexual misconduct cases on college campuses. Colleges were given wide authority to come up with their own procedures, and in many cases these are deeply unfair to the accused. Often the accused is not allowed a lawyer, not allowed to face their accuser, not allowed to present evidence in their defense, etc. This often leads to assumed guilt and expulsion. It's life-ruining stuff and can easily happen to innocent people. The Duluth Model of domes…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 05:42 AM
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So you can't point to that time period as an example of men being prioritized.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:29 AM
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I feel the only male spaces are made to exchange on how women are the scourge of the earth. Those are the only male spaces because those are the only spaces that actually exclude women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:28 AM
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Do you expect abusers to listen to your public service announcements about how abuse is bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:23 AM
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Women also could get loans post-ww2 so that's not an argument for saying men have it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:18 AM
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casualty rates have not been that terrible in anything but one-sided slaughters Out-of-combat deaths due to disease/exposure more than made up for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:16 AM
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It wasn't every few generations. It was every ~20 years there would be a major war. This trend only ended following WW2. I don't think you understand the scale of WW1. At the Battle of Passchendale, 600,000 men on the Allies side died to take 6 miles of ground. If you do the math, that's 12 deaths per foot. And this kind of thing happened non-stop for four years. In France, 1/3rd of military-age men died in the war.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:00 AM
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the other half is prioritized in comparison How prioritized were the men in the trenches breathing chlorine in WW1? idk about you but I think the person who just can't get a loan has the better deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 11:37 PM
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Let men have male-only spaces. Women get them, why not men? Male-only spaces are seen as evil, low-brow, or both by the modern zeitgeist, but they simply aren't. Norah Vincent found that out first-hand. Institute some due process in Title IX. Get rid of the Duluth Model of domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 11:35 PM
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I think the title was supposed to be "Not all men who hit women are monsters".
/r/MensRights13/01/25 12:46 AM
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I hate the fact that I have to root for Andrew Cuomo. Piece of shit destroyed my state.
/r/MensRights20/12/24 05:22 PM
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She's already in prison for stabbing someone.
/r/MensRights13/12/24 04:24 PM
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Men tend to not make excuses when they do these things. They know and admit that the women you mentioned will make terrible partners. They don't care. Women on the other hand will bend over backwards to justify how the career criminal serial domestic abuser is actually a good guy inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:35 AM
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All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players; They have their exits and their entrances, And one man in his time plays many parts
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 10:16 PM
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You know planning is a team-effort right? "We should meet up" is an invitation to offer some suggestions of things you'd like to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 05:50 AM
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He just kept saying “we should meet up” and I would agree. This IS initiating. I often see posts on r/askmen by women, asking "Why didn't this guy I like understand that when I looked in his general direction for 0.34 seconds that that was me signaling interest?" Women will expect guys to pick up on a smoke signal 200 miles away, while they themselves miss the blinding neon sign right in their face.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 11:32 PM
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The point I'm making is that it wouldn't make women less picky. Because you're filtered out before the thing OP suggests even comes into play.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 04:30 PM
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By the time you get to LTR phase, sure, it matters then. That doesn't explain why it's so tough to get a date at all though, which is what the OP is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 01:14 AM
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My point is guys are getting filtered out before you ever even get to that point. The very first filter guys have to get through to date is physical attraction. You don't decide to date the guy in the bar because he'd be a good father; you can't possibly know that. All you know is how physically attracted you are to him and how charismatic he can be in a bar setting. Parental involvement does not explain why guys can't get dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 11:33 PM
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I met my fiancé online I have many reasons to believe he would be a good father When did you learn those reasons? It was after you started going out with him, right? I highly doubt you learned them from reading his Tinder profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:34 PM
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40% of relationships start via online dating, 30% start in a bar or pub. So 70% of relationships start via methods that don't entail learning about how invested the guy would be as a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 05:24 PM
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the father can veto the adoption attempt and then have the mother pay child support. If he even knows what she's doing. If they aren't married, all she has to do is not fill in his name on the birth certificate, and there's nothing he can do, because legally he's not the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:12 PM
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What does it take to prove infidelity? Might be pretty tough, especially without a DNA test.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:06 PM
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Men do not have the right to finantial abortions just like women don't. Women do actually. Safe Haven laws exist in every state. She can give the kid up for adoption for free in every state.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:05 PM
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Don't conflate "Aggression" with "Violence" and it will make a lot more sense. "Aggression" just means willingness to start conflict. Sometimes conflict is necessary, and being able to have the courage to start said conflict is a good thing. Would you want to date a guy who was too meek to tell his boss "No, I'm not working this weekend."? As for Jordan Peterson's point; sometimes violence IS necessary. Say you're out walking with your BF. A stray dog comes running up to you snarling. Would you …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 05:30 PM
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as FGM loss of function when successfully done will always be 'worse' This is not true. There are many different kinds of FGM and not all are worse than MGM. Some don't remove any tissue at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 05:02 PM
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In WW1, feminists harassed men and called them cowards if they tried to avoid the draft. Look up the White Feather movement.
/r/MensRights12/11/24 10:20 PM
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Literally every stat used to show black people suffer from white supremacy is true for men suffering from discrimination women benefit from as well. More men than women are in prison. Men get longer prison sentences than women for the same crimes. Men are more likely to be killed by police than women. More men than women are homeless. More men than women struggle with substance abuse. More men commit suicide than women. I can keep going but I think you get the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:01 PM
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Would you have a problem with a hypothetical question that asked "Would you rather meet a black person in the woods, or a bear?" Would someone who picked the bear be horribly racist? Would you believe them if they said it's not about all black people, just the bad ones? I know I'd think they were horribly racist and I wouldn't believe their excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:55 PM
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Do you think it's bad to be racist? I do, and I assume you do as well. Can you tell me why you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:48 PM
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No it isn't. The Man vs Bear question doesn't ask "Would you rather meet a man who hassles women in the woods or a bear?" it just asks "Would you rather meet a man in the woods or a bear?"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:46 PM
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No, it's not. First of all, "red meat" isn't a group of people. Second, the problem is not about judging groups, it's about judging groups who's members had no choice. Men didn't choose to be men. Black people didn't choose to be black.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:22 PM
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Race and sex are both traits you have no control over. You don't choose to be male and you don't choose to be black.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:14 PM
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In general if someone has such a dim opinion of another like in the man vs bear case, whoever the disliked one is should probably look inwards and see why they're disliked. Would you say this about someone hated due to their race too? I kinda doubt you would. Would you ask a black person to do some introspection about why they're hated by a racist? No? Then why are you asking men to do some introspection about why they're hated by a misandrist?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:45 PM
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I'm pro-life and atheist. I know Trump isn't pro-life. I also know that, as much as I would like a Federal abortion ban, it'll never happen and would be bad for the stability of the country. The decision going back to the states is the best outcome I could reasonably expect; now it's a political question again rather than just a Supreme Court decision that is set in stone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:36 PM
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True!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:18 AM
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I didn't say they were. An issue being gendered is when the genders are on opposite sides. When men primarily support one side and women primarily support the other. This is not the case for abortion. Roughly equal numbers of men and women are pro-life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:17 AM
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Abortion is not a gendered issue. Approximately equal numbers of men and women are pro-life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:00 AM
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I think this is the real reason you're so distraught about this. You need more connections with real people in real life. You should do some research about your community and find something social to do, so you can meet more people. Take a cooking class, go to trivia night at a local bar, play chess in the park, whatever interests you as long as it's social. You'll feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:40 PM
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You didn't fuck her life over. Trump didn't destroy America or enslave women last time, he's not going to this time. Get off reddit for a week or so, till the hyperbole dies down. Your vote doesn't even really matter anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:50 PM
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I know ~40% of relationships start via online dating*, and another ~30% start in bars/pubs, so ~70% start via methods mostly conducive to superficial, short-term stuff. So heavily biased towards immediate physical attraction and charm. *see the chart on page 2 of the pdf.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:09 PM
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No dating sites prioritize long-term relationships, because none of them are actually incentivized to do so. This is true of eharmony too; eharmony makes less money if people actually get into long-term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 08:54 PM
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Do you really believe the ruling classes, the ones selling birth control and abortion drugs/procedures, don't want you to buy them?
/r/MensRights01/04/24 10:20 PM
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Bodily autonomy is a myth. Why do you need a prescription to buy some medications? If I want to buy oxycodone, why can't I?
/r/MensRights01/04/24 03:59 PM
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Nobody is being arrested for playing videogames, the video doesn't even say that. It says the FBI and DHS want gaming companies to have the same censorship as sites like facebook and reddit. That's terrible, but it's not the same thing as having people arrested for playing videogames. btw your laptop won't catch fire. It might get too warm to comfortably have on your lap, but it's not a fire hazard.
/r/MensRights31/03/24 04:11 PM
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I don't do this, but I get it and can explain. There are different kinds of value. If all I want at the moment is sex, why would I care about her relationship value? Wouldn't I only care about her sexual value? If I need a new work truck, I'm gonna mostly look at things like towing capacity, carrying capacity, torque, off-road handling, things like that. I don't really care about satellite radio or a fancy all-leather interior.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:36 PM
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The poorest people in every country have the most kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 03:12 PM
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The poorest places without safety nets have way higher birth-rates. Look at Palestine for a great example. An active warzone, and yet the birth rate is above 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 03:11 PM
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The asshole has more opportunity to display masculine qualities than the polite guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:23 AM
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City people are depressed; risk-taking and disregard for one's safety are common symptoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 11:52 PM
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How do I get this guy's job?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 11:37 PM
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You say this, but in Europe where they do have all those things, the fertility rates are even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 02:59 PM
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How about just funding social services that would allow mothers to have kids and still work without having to catch their food? Lots of countries in Europe do this and it doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 02:58 PM
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If sex truly doesn't matter so much, why are you getting to upset defending your choices to have sex with strangers? Because they're secular humanist hedonists; the only meaning in their life is pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 04:15 PM
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#1, with the caveat that I'd hire a maid. If I'm making $1m a year, why would my wife need to do any housework?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:37 AM
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just like i dont understand woodworking but was impressed when a guy told me he made his coffee table. Presumably you like nice furniture though. OP is saying that women who don't seem to like games were interested in game development videos. If we continue your example it would be like if you watched woodworking videos but had no interest in having furniture nicer that particle-board Ikea stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:52 PM
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Kindness > Confidence > Intelligence
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:39 AM
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I mean try to only swipe on profiles you feel a connection with beyond beauty. How much connection can you detect in a profile that's maybe 3-5 sentences long, if that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:22 PM
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So? Once a woman fucks you, all you have to do is not screw it up The problem is getting to that point. The filter is way before sex. Hell, it's often before any conversation even.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:20 PM
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It's fine if you don't like brussels sprouts, but you get the analogy right? What we like isn't set in stone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:24 AM
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Tell me this is just a fun comment, please. I'm so sick of people not understanding how analogies work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:13 AM
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there's nothing inherently wrong with women only choosing 10 percent of men. It would be absurd to deny bodily autonomy to women because they do that. You ever watch the shows on TLC about obese people? Shows like My 600lb Life? There's always at least one scene that shows the fat person trying to eat healthy, and they gag at the taste of a brussels sprout or whatever. Do we agree that vegetables are just naturally disgusting and they're right to gag? Or have they just warped their sense of tast…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:32 AM
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First of all, not all men want casual sex. Second, this idea that less barriers will make women more receptive to casual sex with a wider pool of men has been tested; see society before the Dobbs decision. It isn't true. It just increases the amount of casual sex the highest SMV guys get.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:26 AM
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How can both parties be OK with one having a secret account? If it's a secret, the other party doesn't even know about it, so how could they be OK with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:56 AM
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Hiding assets is straight-up illegal isn't it? Pretty sure it's some kind of fraud in divorce courts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:48 AM
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I think of it like the people on those TLC shows about obesity, like My 600lb Life or Thousand Pound Sisters. All these shows have scenes of the obese person trying to eat healthy, but wretching at the taste of a brussels sprout or whatever. Do we agree that vegetables are disgusting and that these people are right to feel this way, or do we say that they've just warped their sense of taste by their constant diet of coca cola and ranch dressing? I think the same thing can happen with basically a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 07:08 PM
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First of all, you are. You're suggesting killing an innocent person without their consent. That's murder. But more importantly, why should anyone get to decide for anyone else that their life isn't worth living?
/r/MensRights07/03/24 06:01 AM
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Murder isn't mercy. Who are you to decide for someone else what life is worth living?
/r/MensRights07/03/24 05:46 AM
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So people with birth defects and genetic disorders are less innocent somehow?
/r/MensRights07/03/24 05:40 AM
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so killing rapists unborn baby is a good way to reduce future rapists. Why stop at their unborn baby then? Why not wipe their whole family out? I mean, they share the same genes, don't they? This seems like the logical continuation of your plan. To reduce probability of false accusation, we can introduce punishment false accusers. We should definitely do that, regardless of the abortion issue.
/r/MensRights06/03/24 03:41 PM
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If abortion is wrong because the unborn child is innocent, why should rape or incest be excuses? You don't have any increased false accusation concerns if you just don't make rape an excuse.
/r/MensRights05/03/24 10:19 PM
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No, just be at parties and have status, basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:39 AM
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Be a drug source. Enter your local music scene. Be a drug source for your local music scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 05:46 PM
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How would she feel about me watching porn? How is our sex life? If she'd be fine with me watching porn, and she isn't wasting libido on solo activities that could have been spent together, I'd be fine with it. I might flip through her history and see if there's anything we could do together. If she'd be upset with me if I watched porn, I'm not cool with that. I'm also not cool with it if I'm not getting as much sex as I'd like because she's getting off on her own time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:13 PM
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Men have a biological clock because women have one and huge age-gap relationships are rare. Great, you're still physically able to have kids at 65; how many 65yo men can convince a 30yo woman to have a kid with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:08 AM
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Assuming I find her attractive otherwise, the only one of those 3 that is an issue is "Struggling with debt". And it depends on the debt; if it's 'stupid', like a bunch of credit card debt, that's bad; shows she can't control herself to live within her means. But if it's like a student loan, or medical debt or if she had to take a loan to help a friend or relative or w/e, that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:06 PM
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The asshole has more opportunity to present as bold, assured, and uninhibited.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 09:23 PM
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they wouldn't be jealous of some asshole just because he gets more pussy. They aren't. They're jealous of the ability to attract women. They would be focusing on how to get a romance. Is it possible to romance someone who isn't attracted to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:44 PM
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it’s a bare minimum expectation. And yet the wifebeaters who aren't nice and civilized are the ones who have the least trouble with women. How is it the minimum expectation again?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:51 PM
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Do you think romance ends the moment she's attracted? Her being attracted is when the romance begins. You can't romance someone who isn't into you at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:09 AM
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You can’t be jealous of people that have nothing you value. They do have something of value though. The ability to easily get women into them. They're assholes because they use that ability to pump and dump and/or abuse women. I would use it to get a good relationship. I'm jealous of the skill/ability, not what they do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:42 PM
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Is our modern professional work culture bad because the employee and employer can separate at will, and workers have thousands of “options” on LinkedIn postings? Was work culture better when people could only do their parent’s job, so their eyes couldn’t wander to other jobs? Yes. It was. A major part of the loneliness epidemic is a lack of community. If everyone is changing jobs constantly, there's even less. I mean just look at Bowling Alone, and how all our 3rd places are disappearing. Now wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:30 AM
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I don't like the "You deserve to get cheated on" bit if taken literally, but if it's just meant to show how seriously she takes being a good wife then it's pretty awesome. On the other hand I think I'd prefer if she didn't take on too much responsibility for no reason. I don't need a fancy breakfast every morning. I don't care if the house isn't spotless. I'd prefer if she was fresh and happy to see me when I got home, rather than worn out from overdoing all the homemaking stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:09 PM
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No. This whole "don't respond too soon" BS is stupid. Reply whenever you feel like it. I don't like compliments in general, but no. It wouldn't turn me off. While I might not enjoy the compliment, I'd like to know she liked me. Hasn't happened yet, idk. Maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:35 PM
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The point is that kindness and stability aren't the metric women actually use, which is why the bar looks so low. The metrics women actually use are physical attraction and fun/excitement, and that bar is pretty high. Also, abusers don’t start the relationship out that way. Women don’t generally knowingly get into a relationship with an abuser. Look up basically any criminal with a wikipedia page. They basically all have wives and girlfriends, many of whom they met AFTER getting a serious record…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 07:59 PM
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The blue pill says the standards for finding a relationship are simple and straightforward (stability, kindness, basic hygiene). How do you reconcile this with domestic violence? If you have to be kind to find a relationship, how are these women getting beat up by their boyfriends?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 07:19 PM
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I have been on the receiving end of mirror selfie pics from men. So he didn't take the selfie just for his own personal satisfaction, but as marketing basically. He hoped to gain some external validation, or maybe even a date/hook-up from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:23 PM
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Sport, writing practices, running, actually doing something productive with it So maybe guys actually DO deal with it and women just can't tell because it looks just like the rest of their life?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:15 PM
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Have you considered selection bias? The point being, what are the odds that someone would post about how their husband didn't cheat? That doesn't sound like much of story, does it? Doubly-true for celebrities; nobody's writing salacious hit pieces about the love-life of a guy who just quietly sees one person. And there's a second layer of selection bias going on with them too, as the people most likely to be celebrities are sociopaths; it's easier to climb the ranks if you're amoral and selfish …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 10:00 PM
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Did you actually read the OP? Because currently it's totally legal for an 18yo to hook up with a 50yo. OP's system is MORE restrictive than that. Not less.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:40 AM
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#1 sounds like she could actually exist, so her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:28 AM
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Drake's case isn't the only example of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:07 PM
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When The Fappening happened and those actress's nudes got leaked, there was institutional blowback, to the point that even 4chan censored it. The point isn't that literally no one is outspoken against it when it happens to men, it's that no one important is. No action is taken, nothing. Just individual private people posting their disapproval. The only time I can remember any consequences when a male's nudes were leaked was when Gawker leaked Hulk Hogan's sex tape, and they only saw any conseque…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:56 PM
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But if he is average in all the ways OP describes and he does struggle into his 30s, He's extremely likely to not be average in literally every way. The OP lists 6 categories. 0.5^6 = 1.5%. 1.5% of people are average or better in every way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:43 PM
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What's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:16 PM
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No, I would not. I'm not going to date a murderer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:57 PM
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Yeah, why would a guy care if someone killed their kid? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:57 PM
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If the Buddhists are right, that our feelings are just meaningless wispy nothings in our minds that we should just let go, this applies just as much to good feelings as it does to suffering. The end result then isn't happiness or contentment, it's apathy and emptiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:51 PM
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Frodo was honored by the entire kingdom of Gondor, and will surely go down as a legend of their time. He didn't care about any of that though. He did it to save the Shire and because he was the only one who could.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:59 PM
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Honestly, that misses the mark too. It's not about status and becoming a legend. It's about doing what's right even if, or actually especially if its hard. Self improvement may be necessary, and status and legacy may follow, but these things aren't the point. Things don't work out for Frodo in the end. He sums it up perfectly on the docks at the end of Return of the King. "We set out to save the Shire, and we have. But not for me."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:48 PM
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If we're talking the male ideal fantasy in general, the answer is pretty clearly any story that tells The Hero's Journey, even ones that end badly for the Hero. Lord of the Rings is my favorite example; so many great displays of masculinity. Theoden, Frodo, Sam, Faramir. If we're talking romance, gotta agree with other commenters about Jay from Modern Family. Going to add Bob from Bob's Burgers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:07 PM
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Yeah, it's just like the men's rights groups and many of the men on this sub. Always crying about everything Except they don't ban you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:37 PM
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I got banned from r/atheism for saying I was pro-life. It was my only post on the sub. The algorithm showed me some thread about abortion, I replied "You don't have to be religious to be pro-life. I'm an atheist and I'm pro-life." Instantly permabanned.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:36 PM
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Yes, it does. There are other examples from his life as well. I can't remember what girl it was, but one of his fuck buddies caught feelings for him and basically went crazy. Just because people think they can handle it without catching feelings, without getting attached. So basically his open relationship hurt her. Open relationships are reckless. Boundaries are good.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 10:34 PM
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Leaving hand therapy today, I'm in the lobby waiting for my ride. This guy comes in, and he looks pretty familiar, but I can't think where I've seen him. I hear him discussing with the secretary that he's there to cancel the appointments for [girl's-name] because she re-broke her arm and had another surgery scheduled. I recognized him from her facebook posts; he's her current bf or fiance or w/e. I went to highschool with her, I always felt bad for her because her life was really fucked up. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:54 PM
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which benefits the government. Short term. Long term, each instance of paternity fraud that goes unpunished chips away at the trust necessary between men and women to form healthy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:52 PM
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Maybe there's a utilitarian argument that those priorities result in a more productive society. How? Make the kid's actual father pay for it, not some unrelated guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:40 PM
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So fkn scary that your obgyn aunt hasn't heard of hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:13 AM
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I don't think I would let her down. But if you insist that's what I do for the sake of the hypothetical, C.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:15 AM
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I know what study you're referring to, and it doesn't actually say that. It says a sick woman is more likely to experience divorce than a sick man. The difference being, the study doesn't say who is leaving who, or why. Maybe the sick woman is leaving? Maybe she's being selfish; "My bucket list is kinda long and this marriage is in the way, better bail." Maybe she's being selfless, thinking something like "I want my husband to move on and be happy. I don't want to be a burden." Maybe the relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:35 PM
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Women are the majority of voters.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:23 PM
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If we're counting the unborn, which we definitely should, women kill more males as well, like 15x as many or so. There's ~800,000 abortions per year, so ~400,000 males killed by women. There's ~30,000 homicides every year.
/r/MensRights16/12/23 09:12 PM
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How do you respond to this? Women are the majority of voters. Feminists tend to be infatuated with democracy, so turn it against them. Point out women are running the show now.
/r/MensRights16/12/23 09:09 PM
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None of that was handed to them. When was the feminist revolution, exactly? Feminists didn't TAKE anything. There was no big uprising where they seized their rights. They literally were handed everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:07 PM
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Depends on the edge. Playing drums is cool, though I'd worry what sorts of debauchery she got up to with her band-mates. Pitbull is a big no. Motorcycle is neutral. Here's some more examples: She likes guns? That's great, I do too. UFC? Sweet! Drugs? Probably no; occasional pot use is ok; it's no worse than alcohol basically. Anything harder is sketchy. Petty crime like shoplifting? Probably no
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 03:58 AM
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Because compared to men, they absolutely do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:56 PM
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Healthcare isn't the only example of an industry that will have this problem though. Basically everything will. Every industry, except I suppose education and childcare, will see decreasing numbers of workers, but stable or increasing numbers of customers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 11:30 PM
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It would be enough to just assure women they can afford it. I'm outlier that I really don't want children under any circumstances not even in ideal conditions, but most women actually do want children but can't afford more than one or two, maybe not even one. Poor people have more kids than wealthier people. But now we are overpopulated so we don't even have to think about it. Now we should find a solution how to decline population without any violence. But the solution probably found itself it …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:31 PM
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Because most mammals don't reproduce as much or at all (depending on specie) when resources are scarce First of all, this is only true if said mammals are on death's door. Often things reproduce MORE when times are tough, because they've evolved instincts that basically say "I'm not gonna be here much longer, it's now or never." Second, with regards to humans, poor people have more kids, not fewer. It is middle class and up who don't have kids. This is true comparing within just the US, or betwe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:27 PM
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The study doesn't actually say who is leaving who, only that the relationship is more likely to end when the woman is the sick one. Maybe she's the one leaving? Maybe she thinks "My bucket list is kinda long and this marriage is in the way, better bail." Maybe she is being selfless, hoping if she splits her spouse will move on with his life. "Go on without me" kind of thing. Maybe the relationship doesn't actually end after all, and they're only divorced on paper to get her name off all the prop…
/r/MensRights05/12/23 07:17 PM
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i just find this really hard to understand that having a conversation and asking questions is so triggering for men. it doesn't make any sense. This kind of question feels like a job interview, not a fun date. It isn't even that effective, because like I said, you just have to take their word for it. You have no outside info that they don't control that you can check. i don't trust other people's judgement 🤷‍♀️ I'm not saying you have to ask them "Should I date so-and-so". I'm saying they will h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:09 PM
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Because you're just talking to them, not also people who know them. Maybe they're lying? Maybe they're just not telling you the whole truth? With social circle dating, you would know his reputation, and would know other people who knew him as well that you could ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:10 AM
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Penpals are no better than the apps. You don't know anything about them, not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:44 AM
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men want women to choose better. in order to choose better we need to quickly get information about a guy. This used to be done by social circle dating. You would actually know something about the guy before you dated. Not just the ~5 questions he answered, if that, in a dating app profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:29 AM
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Why would a supermodel have a more accurate perspective? If anything I'd trust a supermodel the least; being so attractive I would expect dating to be relatively easy for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 11:38 PM
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Uh, how? How is she going to get the other girl to go along with it? I'll do my part of the test no problem, but like, you know you need the kid's DNA too right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:16 AM
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Regardless. Why tf are people rude about it? Because it's space racism. And even if you don't take it seriously, it's hard for me to accept it. It's like if you told me phrenology was a fun little hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:40 PM
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Be physically attractive enough and some will look the other way about your politics. Or find the conservative women there; surely not every NYC girl is a basic liberal drone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:54 AM
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-Men nowadays don’t make enough money to even have kids. How are you going to support your partner and a newborn in this economy? ... Overall, I think in the future that only upper class women will be having kids to wealthy men. The rest of women will either remain childfree or the more loose women will have kids with someone genetically blessed aka chad. Poor people have more kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:36 PM
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If we take the historic perspective that only 20-40% of men get to reproduce (therefore have sex) then that means between 75 ~ 100 million of men do-not get to reproduce. This was only true in prehistory. When the standard style of warfare meant the winning tribe would kill all the men in the losing tribe and make all the women concubines. It hasn't been true for like ~4000 years or more. Monogamy has been the norm for most civilizations.
/r/MensRights27/11/23 10:36 PM
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I think you're Deeping prostitution too much, some people don't want the hassle of relationships, so they get their rocks off another way. And I think, just like the people on TLC's "My 600lb Life", the ones who wretch at the taste of a brussels sprout or w/e, that their tastes are warped. We don't agree, I hope, that veggies are just inherently gross. What's happened is that, from a long diet of garbage, they've warped their sense of taste to the point where if food isn't full of sugar, salt, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 10:50 PM
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I'm in the US too. “ We still heavily regulate, and in the case of flavored cigarettes, ban many things all parties consent to” confused me why you put this in here There used to be many different flavorings added to cigarettes, which have all been banned, except iirc for menthol. Customers want them, companies want to sell them, and they weren't way more dangerous. Smoking a pack of 10 flavored cigarettes wasn't worse for you than smoking a pack of regulars. Yet we can still ban them. Clearly c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:58 PM
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Structured courtship used to do that reasonably well. Not perfect, but better than the free-for-all we have now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:33 PM
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Yes, people break the rules. Should we have no rules?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:28 PM
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I don't. They just share that similarity; it's a market we ban.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:28 PM
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Consent is not the only dimension to morality. We still heavily regulate, and in the case of flavored cigarettes, ban many things all parties consent to. The relationship marketplace is a public good. We don't have to let people buy and sell sex, damaging the market for everyone else; in the same way a municipality can decide to be dry and ban the sale of alcohol. The problem with prostitution (and casual sex in general) is that they decouple sex from pro-social behavior. A lot of people need a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:18 PM
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Of and yet even if you ban it people will still go for it. Might as well protect the market that exists and the people that do the work for those that want the demand. Why does this not apply to hitmen as well? "People will do it anyways" doesn't mean it's ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:03 PM
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It should be banned because it damages social cohesion. Relationships and sex are too commodified as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:53 PM
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The man who killed the protesters was single? Don't know, don't care. The exact details of this one case aren't relevant. BB's point isn't that "If XYZ was better nothing bad would ever happen", the point is "If XYZ was better, fewer people would be at the end of their rope and ready to snap." The point is that on-average, a generally-happier society will have fewer cases of senseless violence, because fewer people will be pissed off and have nothing to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:02 PM
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I do not understand how venting = “I’m entitled and deserve a girlfriend” In case you haven't heard, men bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:15 PM
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Not defending the comment section, but BB's point is that a society full of miserable people without a lot to lose will see more events like this than one that is generally happy and most people have families. He isn't defending the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:57 PM
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but I've still oddly seen men claim to be pro-life and pro-financial abortion; such a position is morally inconsistent. I'm pro-life, and if I were emperor I'd ban both medical and financial abortion. But in the world we really live in, it's super inconsistent to me that women can back out at basically any point while men are just stuck with whatever she wants. Even if the man is a rape victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 08:43 PM
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Yeah. No. But neither should men. Nobody should be allowed to vote; I'm pro-monarchy. Is that feminist or not? Allowed yes, encouraged no. No more wrong than violence against anyone else. Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 08:36 PM
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Thank you. Instead of actually doing good in their own communities they would rather insert themselves into women’s rights groups and their argument begins and ends with “well what about men?!” Don't women always say that Feminism is for men too?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 05:11 PM
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Unless he wants kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 02:55 PM
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When you agree to become pregnant, you’re putting your complete trust in another person. You’re completely vulnerable. This works both ways. The guy is completely vulnerable too. He could easily be stuck raising a kid that isn't his for 18 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 03:07 AM
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If you dont have evidence it went wrong, why you stressing? You're supposed to get a colonoscopy every 5 years whether you have any symptoms or not. Catching problems early stops them from becoming big problems. You want to know about your colon cancer before it hits stage 4, and you want to know your wife cheated on you before you spent 10 years raising some other guy's kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 10:03 PM
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Getting cheated on happens to women. Women don't get stuck raising kids that aren't theirs. They can be 100% sure the kid is theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:59 PM
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Comparing being with someone to looking both ways before crossing a road, sounds like a bad relationship. Why do you always do this? Dodge the point of an analogy to just attack nitpicky details?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:56 PM
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I brought them up because the point is you almost certainly like something made by a sex offender. I don't condone his behavior, but I can still say Jimmy Page made great music. The two aren't related. Andrew Tate's accusations have no bearing on the quality of his content. And I'm saying this as someone who hates his content.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 10:40 PM
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Basically every Hollywood movie you've ever watched had sex offenders on staff somewhere. I mean just look at Harvey Weinstein for a good example. Do we now hate the movies he made? How about Woody Allen? Jimmy Page from Led Zeppelin was "dating" a 14yo, took her on tour with them even. Not saying I like Andrew Tate, can't stand his content. But that's because it's just bad, not because he's bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 09:01 PM
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Both are bad. I don't think it really matters which I pick. I guess if I pick #2, I can be reasonably sure he isn't a leftist, whereas that's not the case with an H3H3 watcher. So maybe #2 is barely better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 08:57 PM
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They aren't, actually. Birth rates are below replacement in basically the entire developed world. Only 3rd world countries are above replacement birth rate, and they're falling too. This means the average age of the population is increasing; the ratio of old/young people is becoming more weighted towards old. This means the percentage of the population that is retired is increasing, and the percentage of the population that's working is decreasing. So more people depending on society and fewer p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 03:52 PM
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Literally a bunch of them. But why they all need to start families? Because a society that can't get its people to reproduce is in for a really bad time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 03:46 PM
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Hell are women going back to how things were before. Uh, when exactly? What time period do you think this resembles?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 04:01 PM
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I didn't say I do this, but demonstrably speaking a lot of people clearly do. They need a reason to care about society, or they won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:30 PM
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I think objectifying means devaluing a person only to one function/trait and ignoring the rest of them. Do I make my dentist a "dental health object" since I don't associate with him outside his office?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:15 PM
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What repercussions does one face if they don't fulfill that responsibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:05 PM
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Those things will all still be there whether one is a good person or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 04:13 PM
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It's a two-way street though. Why should a guy with no investment in society care about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 03:47 PM
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Personally, I pretty much have. Doesn't make me happier. A society that can't reliably get people to pair up long-term is in for a really bad time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:43 PM
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I think you'd dread reading the business section of the newspaper and seeing the DOW Jones down 200 points or w/e, watching your retirement that you worked so hard to prepare for dwindle away. Knowing you sacrificed all that time and energy and stress for nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:39 PM
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If I had more money, 90% of all my problems would be solved overnight. And they would be replaced by a ton of new problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:19 PM
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You only need 1 woman, don't get hung up on the majority "You only need to find one needle, who cares how big the haystack is!"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:01 PM
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Why would you care about women’s unrealistic standards? You simply find a woman who fits YOU. This is like saying "Why do you care about inflation, just find cheaper food" when the price of everything, including the cheapest foods like ramen, is increasing. A ton of women have ever-increasing standards. Not just a few you wouldn't want anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:00 PM
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I'm just saying the "Yeah but when you're dead it won't matter" is a nonsense argument because it applies to literally everything. Like it works both ways in this example. Why shouldn't he want his DNA to exist? If it doesn't matter, why judge his preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:34 AM
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It’s not going to make a lick of difference after you die Neither will literally anything you or anyone else does. So this is a non-argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:25 AM
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Most deadbeats bail after the kid is born.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:26 PM
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Abortion was legal in the whole US until last summer, and still is in most of the US today.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 10:15 PM
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True, only the chaddiest Chad could die for our sins and resurrect 3 days later.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 03:46 PM
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Chads can be whatever they want. Some like being loyal, some don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 03:30 PM
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That's not answering the question at all. Remember what we're discussing, WOMEN use the term 'fatphobic' to describe MEN who don't find fat women attractive. What are the equivalent terms MEN use to describe WOMEN who don't bald or short men attractive? It's definitely not 'red pill' or 'black pill', because those both describe men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 03:00 PM
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No. Honestly I kinda hate all the e-thot thirst trap shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:23 PM
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I find that I'm not really viscerally attracted to really anyone at first sight. It takes a little getting-to-know them first. So if I waited for someone who turned me on immediately, I'd be waiting forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:49 PM
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Not really worried, no. You're absolutely right that an SO with a dead bedroom is better than no SO. I mean, no SO and I'll technically have a dead bedroom too. Obviously I'd prefer to not have a dead bedroom marriage, but it's better than nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:20 AM
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How is it my problem when women have issues? Why should I care?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 05:40 PM
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Suicide rate is pretty high.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:51 PM
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They don't see me as a person. I am so sick of this crap. I only associate with my dentist when I need dental work done. Do I not "see him as a person"? Do I not see the clerk at the grocery store as a person because I don't ask them out to dinner before they scan my stuff? I'm not saying you have to accept their request for a one-night stand, but just because that's all they want at the moment doesn't mean they're dehumanizing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:48 PM
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There's roughly equal numbers of men and women. For every woman who doesn't date, there's a guy who can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:40 PM
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Why are you only looking at "civilized history"? Because I don't think you really, actually want to go back to the state of nature, when women would just be dragged away by the biggest, toughest warlord. Huh? TLC? I'm not in the US or an English speaking country and my country doesn't have an obesity problem, so I have no idea what youre referring to. TLC is a TV channel with a bunch of shows about really fat people, and how their lives suck. So you think the indoctrination of traditional values…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:07 PM
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The nuclear family is a fairly modern concept Monogamy isn't though. Monogamy was the norm for most of civilized history. Paying people to be parents would probably work better They give all kinds of incentives in Europe and their birth rates are just as bad or even worse than in the US. We already know paying people doesn't work. relationships they don't want to be in or raising kids they don't want to raise Do you think what people want isn't malleable? I don't. I think people's tastes are bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:15 PM
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A society that can't reliably get people to pair up and make more citizens is not long for this world. That shouldn't be a controversial thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:32 AM
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But not because it had orderly matchmaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:13 AM
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I've been thinking chickens; I live in town. But I don't think pets/livestock are a substitute for a significant other.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:51 AM
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I'll just be unhappy till I die. Which probably will not be all that long since loneliness correlates pretty strongly with reduced lifespan.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 06:06 PM
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Third paragraph: Why men leave a sick spouse Blatant, unsupported assumption.
/r/MensRights28/09/23 04:46 PM
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The study doesn't differentiate who is leaving who. Only that divorce is more likely when the woman is sick than when the man is sick. Maybe women are more likely to think something like "Shit, I'm not gonna be here much longer and this relationship is in the way of my bucket list, better bail." Maybe they're more likely to be selfless and want the guy to move on with his life. Hell, maybe the relationship is fine and they're only split up on paper for financial reasons; like for example to get …
/r/MensRights28/09/23 04:36 PM
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I grow my own Jalapenos. Imagine I'm dating a girl who doesn't like spicy food. Should I be upset that she doesn't appreciate the fact that I provide her with free Jalapenos? This is the kind of thing he's talking about. Women do "labor" that isn't asked for or wanted, then get upset when it isn't appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:33 PM
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Making during that she is 100% okay giving a blowjob is important. This is why people keep bringing up the consent paperwork. It's not about proving to myself she consents, it's about proving to the rest of the world the next day she consented. The rest of the world isn't in the room watching her enthusiastically escalating. The rest of the world will get her false accusation a week later though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:03 AM
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woman is responsible for her own rape if she passes out. If you walk through a shitty part of town with a fancy, shiny watch on and get mugged, it's obviously the mugger's fault. But you can't tell me it wasn't a stupid decision on your part too. It doesn't make the mugger any less guilty, but you were kinda negligent too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:57 AM
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Between 2-8% of rape accusations are false. No, 2-8% are so obviously false the accuser gets convicted of making a false accusation. Some percentage of accusations are indisputably true; cases like that one in broad daylight in the NYC subway a couple years ago. Most are indeterminate; maybe true, maybe false.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:24 PM
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I don't think objectification is inherently a bad thing. Maybe I'll find I actually am interested in a girl holistically, but the interest doesn't, and can't start with that. Same with any other relationship; I don't pick my doctor based on his hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:01 PM
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So wait, it's NOT objectifying to ignore everything about a girl's personality and interests etc and just immediately homing in on flirting? I thought that's what people always complained about as objectification? Immediately asking my mechanic about my inspection, ignoring his humanity and just keeping things strictly about my car seems like the same kind of thing as immediately flirting with some pretty girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:38 PM
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Am I treating my doctor as a healthcare object if I don't strike up a friendly conversation before I ask him about the weird rash on my arm? Am I treating my mechanic as a maintenance object if I don't have 30 minutes of chit-chat before I ask about getting my car's inspection?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:15 PM
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No, you've decided their life doesn't matter TO YOU. Not that their life is worthless to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 09:36 PM
1

If I build a house, and destroy an ant hill in the process, am I deciding the ant lives aren't worth living? I don't think so. I'm just not even considering them. The value of those lives have no weight in my decision-making process.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 02:21 PM
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you're deciding whether their life would be worth living. No. That's only the case if your reasoning is based on the expected quality of life of the child. If your reasoning is about the expected quality of the life of the mother, that's logically consistent with a bodily autonomy argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:42 PM
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she wouldn’t want the child to grow up without a mother and knowing they’re the reason for her death I kinda hate pro-choice arguments that are based on the child's quality of life. I mean, I'm pro-life so I don't really like any pro-choice arguments, but these ones seem especially bad. They fly in the face of all the bodily autonomy arguments pro-choicers also make; because when they make those arguments, they're deciding for someone else that their life isn't worth living. If my wife's life is…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:04 AM
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They just don't talk about how nice they are because there is absolutely no reason to ever bring it up. Except for online when the people you're talking to know nothing about you, so you have to kind of set the stage. How am I supposed to get advice about my dating problems if I can't tell people about my personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 03:55 PM
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I doubt that the struggling group struggles because they're too nice. It's the male equivalent of "I'm too strong and independent for men to like me". They are. The guys who are too nice struggle because they listened to all the propaganda about how women don't want to be approached basically anywhere, they don't forgive flirting a tiny bit too much, and you have to be polite and "respectful". "Respectful" meaning basically professional. There's a lot of guys who take those complaints from women…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 03:53 PM
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I did shoot my shot. It didn't work. I was facebook friends with her for a long time afterwards but had to unfriend her. It was bad for my mental health to be shown updates about her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 10:49 PM
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I've read the OP like 5 times and don't see where he said anything about "coworkers getting annoyed with you because you talked about sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 08:58 PM
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I don't think men do this. My instinct is to just say we're not as neurotic. If asked to be more charitable, maybe it has something to do with scarcity. Men just want women more than women want men, AND women are less available. So men can't afford to be turned off by stupid meaningless things. I mean, a destitute, malnourished person isn't going to discard a whole loaf of bread because there's a speck of mold on it; he'll just cut that bit off. Or maybe even just ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 04:39 PM
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How has pornography and plastic surgery warped men's minds as to what men actually find attractive? I think porn is a bit overblown, because "amateur" is super popular. But plastic surgery and social media are definitely problems for men too. I'm inclined to believe they're less severe, since men have lower looks thresholds in general, but maybe that's just wishful thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:28 PM
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Is appeal immutable? I mean, can people's tastes change? I tend to think of it like the fat people on TLC. The morbidly obese people who wretch at the taste of a brussels sprout. It's not that brussels sprouts are actually gross; these people have just warped their sense of taste by a steady diet of ranch dressing and coca cola. Likewise, I think media, especially social media, has warped women's minds as to what they actually find attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 04:41 PM
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So why would it be a good thing to be with a man who is only "loyal" because of a lack of options? Because of the "Danny Devito test". You are less likely to be blinded by the halo effect, so it's harder for him to get away with being shitty. You will be inclined to make excuses and put up with BS for a really attractive guy. An ugly guy has no such protection. Basically, ugly guys aren't less likely to be immoral, but they are more likely to get caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:37 PM
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Sexual liberation doesn't help lower value guys. It just means more women go for Chad. Instead of having 3 hook-ups or fwb meets a week, he'll have 5.
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 02:34 PM
4

You don’t need to worry about rejection at that point. Unless you care about results at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:28 PM
5

Well marriage != wedding. A wedding starts a marriage, but isn't one, you know? The big benefit of a wedding is that it makes that commitment more concrete. The more people you tell "Hey, me and her, we're a committed couple now." the harder it will be to break that commitment. Yeah, some brides get caught up in making the ceremony perfect, but the concept is sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:34 AM
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It's also obviously linked to getting to spend less time with your children. You can't live for ever. Every year you put it off is a year you won't get to spend with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 11:16 PM
5

Here's an admittedly odd analogy. Consider dog breeds for a second. The fancy pure-bred dogshow breeds all have horrible health conditions because breeders focus so hard on matching their kennel club's aesthetic standards. German Shepards have fucked up hips and spines, pugs and other bracycephalic dogs have horrible breathing issues, dobermanns have heart problems, st. bernards have seizure disorders, etc. This is because all breeders paid attention to when selecting which dogs to let breed was…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:20 PM
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If anything I think it increases his status I would think the opposite of him; it would decrease his status with me. The misunderstanding is here: and if we are being honest one of the best ways to do this is to show everyone how pretty his girl is. Pretty != slutty. Obviously him dating an attractive woman makes him look good, but it can be undone if she dresses like a floosie. Think about it kind of like body-count. Would you think a guy was good with the ladies if he told you he'd been with 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 01:10 AM
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"Lied to" is a bit strong, it implies intent. I don't think they intend to mislead, I think they're just not good at preventing it. Again, a bit strong. But generally correct. I think this is not always true, but is becoming more common. I don't understand this one. Is he saying women are valuable because of their sexual value? That's not -all- of it, but it IS a big part. Is he saying women only value men who can sexually satisfy them? I wouldn't say -only-, but it's definitely important. This …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:26 PM
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They do make those plays and it doesn't work. Look at the euro countries with amazing childcare and maternity leave; they have even worse birth rates than the US. Immigration is not a solution. Immigrants are net recipients of services; they receive more than they provide. Further, even if that were not true, birth rates are falling globally; so at best it just delays the issue. It's not being selfless to prop up the system. It's perfectly rational; you benefit from the system being functional. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:12 PM
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People can choose to not live in high CoL locales in those countries though. It's clearly cultural, people want their cake and to eat it too. They're just not willing to live more frugally in order to have kids. And this is super short-sighted, because it's a prisoner's dilemma. Yeah, maybe individually and in the short term, one can live more luxuriously if they don't have kids. But if enough people do that, everyone suffers for it because all our institutions will suck even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:55 PM
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The problem with people not having kids is that the age ratio of the populace is shifting more and more towards old people. There will be more and more old, retired people, and fewer younger people working to contribute to society. Do you think our institutions will run better or worse with more people needing their services and fewer people working in them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:43 PM
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It's more like people have a warped idea of what they really need. I have a buddy raising 3 kids on a single public schoolteacher income, who owns his own house. He manages because he lives in a low CoL place and his idea of treating himself to eating out is Applebees. A lot of people say they want kids but can't afford it. What they really mean is that they want kids but only if they don't have to sacrifice living in a trendy neighborhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:35 PM
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No. But I'm sure there's more women out there just like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:18 PM
5

Poor people have more kids. When comparing within one country and across countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:06 PM
5

I went drinking with my buddies awhile ago. We got a table, and the waitress came over to take our order. We said we wanted to wait; one of our party was running late due to parenting duties. Well saying the word "father" set her off. She ranted for like 10 minutes about how she had 3 kids and was pregnant with her 4th, all from different guys, all of whom abused and abandoned her. I find it impossible to believe all 4 guys had absolutely no warning signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:04 PM
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I shouldn't have to. You know how the left is all about consent? Well me being in public does not mean I consent to seeing some ho's nearly-bare ass.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 12:11 AM
2

It's actually just the fact that that's where the tech HQ's and Hollywood are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 10:55 PM
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State GDP doesn't show that immigrants are net contributors.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 10:51 PM
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How did that work out for the First Nations? Not so good, right? So why would we want to repeat it? Doesn't this seem awfully imperialist? I'm surprised the left is so pro-immigration, considering what it does to the countries these immigrants leave. Do you really think it's ok for the west to just vacuum up the youth of the developing world? Fertility rate is falling worldwide, at best you're just delaying the problem. Immigrants are net recipients of services, not contributors, so it doesn't e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 08:11 PM
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A lot of people would have children if they had economic means and space to do so. People have crazy-warped ideas of what they really need economically to have kids. The issue is that a lot of people are unwilling to live frugally in order to have children. They want kids, but only if it doesn't impede on living in a HCOL area and affording luxuries. I have a buddy who owns his house, and is raising 3 kids on a single public schoolteacher salary. He manages pretty well because he lives in a rura…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 08:05 PM
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I don't understand what's the incentive though You can have kids with a good, stable guy without having to find him physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 07:58 PM
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She loves you but is a little ambivalent toward you. These seem mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:25 PM
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The theory isn't that Chad lives with multiple women, it's that he has multiple women he considers "on rotation"; some of whom mistakenly believe they're actually a couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:01 PM
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So if you're a pot smoking athiest who thinks family sucks and babies are poopy monsters that you want nothing to do with, you probably won't be compatible with most women from this area. Well, I'm an atheist who prefers edibles, but I also want a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 03:31 PM
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I don't agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 10:37 PM
2

I avoid looking at mirrors because I hate how I look.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 10:23 PM
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Hate them mostly. Break-up songs are no better. They're just really repetitive and I can't relate to any of them.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 02:05 PM
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Did you have TV? I don't get how you could possibly avoid knowing what condoms were and how they worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 09:39 PM
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If you don't like abortions then don't have one. If you don't like murder, then don't do one. That's what you're saying. In what world is that an acceptable response? Condoms are dirt cheap, anyone can afford them. You can just look for spare change on the ground to buy a pack if you have to, they are that cheap. I'm an atheist btw, religion has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 09:37 PM
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I don't like compliments. They just make me uncomfortable. I always just blurt out "Thanks", but I don't mean it.
/r/MensRights26/08/23 11:38 PM
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It's not. Some places are overcrowded. Not the west. The problem isn't the net number of people decreasing. The problem is, as fewer people have kids, the average age of the population increases. There will be more people getting old and retiring, and fewer young people working to keep society going.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:15 PM
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I LOVE helping people. I got great grades through school, but that didn't make me proud, I didn't feel anything about it. What did make me proud, was seeing the students I tutored get great grades. I was fucking thrilled to get my pupils on the high honor roll.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 09:07 PM
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Its true even in the US. Not just when comparing between countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:26 AM
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Not until they're like ~8 at the youngest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:15 AM
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Wealth is inversely correlated with fertility; poor people have more kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:14 AM
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Depends on exactly what the successful men are saying. If it's bluepill "be yourself" nonsense, that's like a rich person telling a hobo "Just have your dad get you a hedge fund job." Sure, maybe that's how it worked for him, but it's not actionable advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:05 PM
3

Did God create the devil?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:05 AM
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Why does free will entail the possibility of evil? Couldn't he have given us free will without the possibility of evil? And who's free will causes natural suffering? Who's fault are genetic birth defects and natural disasters?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:55 AM
2

Did God create everything, or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:19 AM
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I wish I was Catholic; but even if I never manage to believe, I still have a deep respect for Catholicism. I agree with the Catholic ethic, Natural Law, all that jazz. I just don't think God exists, mostly because of the problem of evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 10:49 PM
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You know this is a fantasy list right? Like realism is irrelevant. That was the premise of the question in the OP. "If you could have everything your way, what would that be?" basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 10:46 PM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 08:20 PM
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With the caveat that this is like my absolute ideal, not what I expect to get or think I deserve or w/e. Doesn't matter, but I like full, rich color. So like, really black black or really blonde blonde or really red red. Gotta be honest, I rarely notice. Not important, as long as it's not insane in either direction. Instagram body basically. Busty with ass, but also not fat. Let me reiterate that I know it's unrealistic; I don't care, we're talking fantasy here right? Don't care. Just no stupid …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:59 PM
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I really want kids. I am not opposed to women working on its own, but if it gets in the way of having a family, then I am. Will she be willing to drop or drastically reduce her hours in order to have kids? If yes; working is fine. If no, sorry, not interested. I do see the value in her not working even if kids aren't in the picture. If I make enough money to support us both, her working adds no marginal value to the family. We'd be better off if she stayed stress free and happy, both for her own…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:03 PM
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She still posts on youtube.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 07:12 PM
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Unfortunately no. She got permabanned at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 05:02 PM
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GIMPGIRL
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:53 PM
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and also promised to grow his dick by 1 inch but it would be without feeling or sensation at the glans. Bro, I hope this is just a hypothetical and you're not actually considering this. Please bro don't do it ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:52 AM
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Right, I forgot. Only women can leave unhappy marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:36 AM
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So he's supposed to just stay sexless and not leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:22 AM
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The fact they're legally enforced, not just socially enforced. The fact sex-segregation even applies to emergencies and healthcare. The fact women can't show their faces.
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/23 05:07 AM
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Most of it is terrible. Only good things are the focus on modesty, and the sex-segregation, but they take these way too far. Modesty is a good thing, and men and women need their own spaces, but Afghanistan takes both of these to an insane extreme.
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/23 04:21 AM
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Men have a lower threshold for physical appearance, but enforce it more strictly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:45 PM
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Yeah probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 02:18 AM
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1, 3, 4 look good to me. 2 I think might look good if she had a happier expression. The final 3 are way older than me; age gaps are bad, aren't they? Or are they only bad if the man is older?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 02:11 AM
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A: nothing B: nothing C: Not fat. Likes me. No stupid debts that I'll end up responsible for. Debt in general isn't a problem, as long as it's not stupid. Took out a student loan to study a promising subject? That's fine. Ran up ~$20k in credit card debt? Not fine. Wants kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 10:56 PM
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Works both ways; who would want a friend that doesn't care about your mental health?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:09 PM
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but you value the friendship so little that you shoot your shot anyways. Have you really never pined for someone? The closer you get to them, i.e. the more you care about them, the worse it feels. The more it weighs on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:53 PM
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She’s intelligent Press 'X' to doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:02 PM
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No, but that doesn't make me like it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:01 PM
1

You can be spiritual without believing insane nonsense like "The stars can influence or predict our actions".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 03:59 PM
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Is there an issue if this person is alone? Would you want to be with them if they modified this list so you could meet it? This assumes these standards are immutable. That if she had been born 2-3 generations ago, she would have had the same preferences, she just would have settled for less and been unhappy. I don't think this is the case. I think social media and online dating are inflating their standards. It's like those people on TLC that weigh 600lbs. They wretch at the taste of a brussels …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:47 PM
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1) Because this is a zero-sum game. Say we all do this. Are any of us better for it? Not really. 2) Fashion is a prisoner's dilemma. It's just marketing, not real improvements. A healthy society wouldn't weight looks so heavily. Think about it; which is a healthier industry, the one in which businesses compete to sell the most widgets by making the best widgets? Or the industry in which businesses compete to sell the most widgets by having the best marketing departments?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:48 PM
5

It's like racism, but against the disabled instead of against another race.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:23 PM
0

The point is the whole "women avoid incels because they're misogynists" schtick is nonsense. Women date misogynists all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 11:44 PM
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Way more women are killed by the dirtbags they date than by incels they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 06:57 PM
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I'd be thrilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 06:11 AM
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The studies don't even say that. The studies never ask who is leaving who, or why. They only ever show that divorce is more likely when the woman is sick than when the man is. They never break down who is seeking the divorce. Maybe women are? Maybe they're thinking something like "Damn, I don't have long left and this marriage is in the way of my bucket list." Or maybe it's selfless, maybe they're trying to spare their husband's; "Babe, you should go on without me" basically. Hell, maybe they're…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 04:48 PM
2

If it's just a clump of cells why is it so tough? Do you get worked up about a pedicure taking off callouses?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:35 PM
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"men are lonely because they're not dating and sad" I mean, she didn't. The tweets she was criticizing did that.
/r/MensRights08/08/23 05:28 AM
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I think Shoe actually cares, but I think most leftists do not. She covers this in the video actually; a big segment of it is about how all leftist outreach is "How do we recruit them" not "How do we help them".
/r/MensRights08/08/23 05:25 AM
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I have muscular dystrophy. I'm sure I can get stronger working out. I don't think I can improve enough to matter in any way I care about. Like, is my life any better if I can stretch the lightest elastic band 2 inches further? I don't really think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:31 PM
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What are you struggling with? Motivation. Really struggle with sticking with it, because I don't think anything I can do will meaningfully help me in ways I care about. Like for example, why do I go to the gym, when even if I practically lived there I'll still be the weakest adult male on Earth? Like I'll still be weaker than those soyboys The Try Guys. Feel like I'm wasting my time. And it's not just the gym, I feel that way about basically every form of self-improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 04:44 AM
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Do you know how analogies work? The point isn't that anybody's being forced. The point is that the guy doesn't actually get to experiment. Because women have already finished with their experimenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 03:43 PM
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Men are allowed to do the same. That's just it, they aren't. If women don't want a guy until they're done experimenting, he doesn't get to experiment. Imagine if it was about travel instead of sex. The guy wants to travel, but she already has. And every place he suggests, she replies, "No, I've already been there and didn't like it." Do you get why thatd be frustrating?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 03:37 PM
1

You can't prioritize everything. Prioritizing everything is prioritizing nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:53 AM
3

I'd guess I made a mistake somewhere along the way; didn't vet enough, didn't do the right things in the relationship etc. That doesn't make the meaningless BS more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 12:51 AM
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I don't agree with it. Connection is pretty much all that matters, and a spouse seems like one of the most important. What else should be the focus? Like anything else seems like meaningless BS in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 12:32 AM
1

Sure you can, natural law works fine without any of the supernatural stuff. I'm an atheist and I support basically all of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 02:47 PM
12

Chad doesn't have to sleep around, he just can if he wants to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:11 AM
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https://youtu.be/2CsTzVyZP4M
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:41 PM
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I would guess social media and the internet. People were able to compare notes, they no longer had to take Cosmo's word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 09:42 PM
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I really like Sh0eonHead's take. That the movie is actually pro-men and anti-feminisim. What do the Kens do when they rise up in Barbieland? Do they enslave all the Barbies? No. Their "patriachy" is a big party, in which they share their interests with the Barbies. What do the Barbies do when they want to overthrow the "patriarchy"? They attack monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 04:39 PM
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Not many. But there are quite a few who hit high double-digits, low hundreds.
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 03:08 AM
1

Wilt Chamberlain claimed to have slept with tens of thousands of women.
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 02:56 AM
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go to the /gif/ board on 4chan. It's mostly porn, but there's usually one or two gore-related threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 06:48 PM
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What direction do you think causation goes in? Do you think maybe there's a third thing that causes both? Like maybe the traits that make you likely to get married also make you likely to be rich and healthy? Seems like stability, high time preference, and ambition are in high demand by women seeking husbands, and also lead to wealth and health.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 04:23 PM
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Men do the same thing. It's not exactly the same thing. Imagine a Venn diagram of "Casual sex worthy" and "Commitment worthy". For guys, the "Commitment worthy" circle is totally within the "Casual sex worthy" circle; they would have casual sex with any girl they would commit with, but wouldn't necessarily commit with any girl they'd have casual sex with. Whereas with girls, the circles just overlap. Some terrible but hot guys can only get casual sex, no commitment. The highest value guys can ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:39 AM
2

Because ideally you and your partner should trust each other enough that neither of you feel the need to audit the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:20 AM
2

It seems possible that your SO could be legit unaware things aren't great from your perspective, and being shown data could bring them around. My dad kept putting off quitting smoking; there was always some stress right around the corner he wanted to get through first. Until mom pointed out he had said he would quit 2 years prior. It just hadn't occurred to him how long he had been procrastinating, until she brought out the data. Point being I think book-keeping can be useful, sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:05 PM
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I think it's ok, so long as you only start it when you already suspect problems. This kind of book-keeping will stress a relationship, but if it's already looking bad, what have you got to lose?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 10:50 PM
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It didn't really happen. Read the article; it was a mad dash for rescue, nobody actually paid attention to the women and children first trope. Historically speaking, "Women and children first" rarely was ordered, and even when it was, that order was rarely followed. The Titanic is the only example I'm aware of in which it was ordered and people actually paid attention to it. Sad thing is on the Titanic, the crews on the Starboard side took "Women and children first" to mean "Women and children o…
/r/MensRights25/07/23 05:51 AM
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Why are so many people so bad at following the CMV rules? Look how many agreed with OP in top-level comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:40 PM
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Mistrial doesn't mean it's over. He will be tried again, almost certainly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:38 AM
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"I'm not enjoying this part of who you are and I don't see a future for us unless you want to give up meat" , it's not ok to say "I feel like this about what you do do you have to change". These are functionally the same thing. In both cases, they're ultimatums, and in both cases, they're enforced the same way. "If X, the relationship is over."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:58 AM
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allowing your body to be used for compensation This is what all manual is labor though, something millions of guys do on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 10:23 PM
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Sure, I'd do it. I don't really see any reason not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:51 AM
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rural areas usually don't have a lot, if any, good high paying jobs They don't NEED high paying jobs. I know public schoolteachers who own homes and raise kids on one income. Plus if everyone just followed that advice then the rural areas wouldn't be rural anymore and you'd have the same issues as before. America isn't running out of space. In fact, my rural community is decreasing in population, there's more room here than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 04:53 PM
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so why are so many people living paycheck to paycheck and growing hungry and unable to afford shelter? Because you live in NYC or some other expensive metropolis, or one of their immediate suburbs. Move to a rural community, where public schoolteachers can afford to buy a home on one income.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:23 PM
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wardrobe Don't care, she can select what she wants. tried to stop you from talking to female colleagues I'm not gonna stop work-related discussions, but I don't mind not associating with them outside of a work context. tried to control your same sex friendships? Depends on the friend, and on what reason she gives me. The closer the friend, the better reason I'd need. Seems like a reasonable compromise to me. I'd want her to be comfortable in the relationship, but it's a two-way street. In any ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:42 AM
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Boundaries and "controlling behavior" are the same thing. There's no qualitative difference. The only difference I can see is that boundaries are ultimatums one plans on accepting, "controlling behaviors" are ultimatums one plans on ignoring or leaving the relationship over.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:13 AM
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Well Zuck is pretty physically fit, so he's not a great example, he can probably find a woman who actually viscerally desires him. And I don't think every girl who dates rich, not-physically-attractive guys is an opportunist screwing around behind his back. Some will be risk averse and unwilling to risk derailing their gravy train. Other than that, I would agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:59 PM
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Men that is viewed as ugly will not be given a time of day, not even as a "friend." Agree with most of the post, but this part is wrong. I'm hideous and have had many female friends. Looks don't really impact friendship in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:30 PM
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How isn't it controlling to set a boundary about cheating? Like you're controlling who your SO has sex with. It seems like your definition of 'boundary' is whatever you decide. Only you are the arbiter of what is controlling and what is just a healthy boundary.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:07 PM
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I think it's more that your lizard brain, the part that makes you feel things, has no concept of what a "Systems Analyst" is, so it does nothing for you viscerally. Whereas physically attractive traits do get a response from the lizard brain; that's how physical attraction works.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:40 PM
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Neither do men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 08:09 PM
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This is a great way to insure people never send their s.o anything like that ever again lmao! Good!
/r/AllPillDebate15/07/23 08:07 PM
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It is not filled with even one woman paying for anything. Well duh, Thailand isn't a sex tourism destination for women. That's the Caribbean.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:04 AM
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Has anything opened your eyes to selection bias and algorithmic filtering? Like you realize you're fed the most emotionally charged content, because that gets the most engagement, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:02 AM
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I agree with you about the plate-spinning side of RP; they seem to be doing exactly as you say. But they also don't hate the system, in fact they need the system to be this way. MGTOW have checked out. The system works fine if all you're interested in is money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 01:48 AM
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Tradcons, redpill, and MGTOW are not all synonymous. I agree that they are related, but the Venn diagram isn't a circle. A large segment of RP are just hedonists; they just want more stuff and casual sex, which the current system is good at providing if you are a good self-salesman. It shouldn't be a surprise they keep participating. MGTOW is itself not all one thing either; some are guys who got burned by modern women and have written them all off, meaning they focus on themselves in their soli…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 01:14 AM
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So your question is "Why aren't RPers and MGTOW's violent psychopaths?"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:50 AM
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Q4whoever wants to answer. How do you feel about people with hobbies/interests stereotypically associated with the other gender? Does it make them more or less attractive? Like guys, would a girl being into fixing cars, hunting or warhammer40k be a positive or negative thing? Or neutral? Ladies, would a guy being into poetry, sewing, or hallmark movies matter? I ask because I saw a thread on r/askmen about how guys saw girls with masculine hobbies and thought we could get good discussion here. P…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:05 PM
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Those jobs are real jobs. The jobs that are not are all the BS office jobs being cut lately. Jobs like "Communications". Jobs like "social worker". I say this as someone who is disabled btw. I have at least 5 social workers "helping" me with my services. Their help is all busy-work though, I fill out the same forms over and over; eventually I just made copies. Get this, when I signed up for one service recently, the first meeting I had to attend was 3 hours, in which two social workers read a po…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:52 PM
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No, the justice system lets women absolutely torture men for years. Look at Johnny Depp's case, look how long it took for him to get the truth out. And remember, it only worked out in his favor because she was maximally crazy and he was a beloved multi-millionaire. It doesn't work out so well for average guys dealing with slightly-less crazy but just as vindictive women. And have you really never seen a case where a woman starts violence against an innocent guy, who puts up with it until he can …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:41 PM
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Men are net contributors; as a whole they pay more in taxes than they receive. Women are net receivers; as a whole they receive more in govt services than they pay in taxes. So at the population level, men's wealth is redistributed to women. It's even worse when you consider how many jobs that are dominated by women are fake, bullshit office jobs doing what's essentially busywork. So even among women who work, there are many who don't actually contribute. They do BS "jobs" that help no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:38 AM
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Get this, there are more women eligible to vote than men. So if it's all about "holding your leaders accountable", women are MORE at fault than men. Unless you mean in more of a "Political power grows from the barrel of the gun" a la Mao kind of way, in which case, careful what you wish for. Capitalism ain't great for families, but nobody who's read Gulag Archipelago would think violently overthrowing it would do anything to help them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:16 AM
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Those guys get results and can make a woman feel safe. Seems pretty fuckin' stupid, considering the leading cause of death for pregnant women is murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:11 AM
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I hope you don't realize you're setting up a "Heads I win, tails you lose" kind of situation. By your logic, trad cons only options are: Give women what they said they want, and not be "leaders" who are worthy of "submissive" women, or Live up to the craziest patriarchy stereotypes and enslave women There's an excluded middle here, that I hope you're just not noticing. That trad cons want a world conducive to stable families, like their parents had.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:07 AM
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Before 1913, NO ONE paid income taxes. We had roads, schools, police, fire departments, etc. Before 1950, only the richest paid income tax, hardly anyone else did.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:57 AM
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An irrationally angry woman had no real injuries. That's what we mean by her anger being "irrational".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:15 AM
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Seinfeld isn't real. And even if he was, he's not a role model. The whole point of the show is that the main characters are sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:09 AM
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Women aren't weak at all, they have the strength of the US criminal justice system, and any white-knight within shouting distance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:03 AM
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Exactly. Every time I hear something like that, I think about the guy from 127 Hours. The true story about that hiker who got pinned under a boulder for 5 days till he sawed his arm off with a pocket knife. That guy is brave. I just put up with shit, I'm not an active participant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:11 PM
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I admire her strength and how resilient she is I don't think I'm strong or resilient just because I put up with being disabled. What other choice do I have? It's not really something I'm doing, it's something that's happening to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:59 PM
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No. Don't want to get banned for woe-is-me, so not gonna say any more publicly. DM's are open if you want to know more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:39 AM
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The only things I can think of that I wouldn't put up with are: Repeated cheating. Physical abuse that was serious enough to risk real injury, more than just pain, bruising, or minor bleeding. Saying anything about me being "an inspiration" or anything like that because of my disability. Fucking hate that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:22 AM
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So things aren't necessarily better now after all?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:35 PM
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For example if a woman was beat up by her husband you'd probably never see it on the media. But also in the past, their relatives were often happy to take matters into their own hands; wifebeaters would often themselves get beat, by their wife's male relatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:48 PM
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Maybe some are, maybe some aren't. But it's possible they're just bigots too. Probably some of both. In fact both might be true of the same girl; maybe she is overly concerned and won't date even high-functioning autistic guys. Like she thinks it's more debilitating than it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:51 AM
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Women are less likely to accept an autistic man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:32 AM
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Positive perspective: Maybe guys are less ableist. They're more forgiving about awkward quirks. Negative perspective: Yeah, some guys just want to take advantage of people, just like some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:52 AM
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I know. Look my point is I like all of them a great deal. If I had to pick a favorite, it would be bottom-middle, but I'd be thrilled to date any of them. It's like asking if I would rather win $1,000,001 or $1,000,000. I'd pick $1,000,001 but $1,000,000 is basically just as good.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:31 AM
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We're talking about tiny difference in preference here, they're all fantastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:03 AM
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Bottom-middle is best, in my opinion. But when I say "best", I mean by a sliver; all 6 are great.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 11:59 PM
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It's not only 7, it's only 7 additional hours. Doing chores for two doesn't take twice as long.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:45 AM
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Lets do the math. When single, you have X hours of housework + 40 hours of work per week. As a housewife you have X + 7 hours of housework + 0 hours of work per week. The latter clearly has more free time than the former; I think the idea is that a lot of chores don't take all that much more time when done for two people instead of one. Making the bed takes just as long if one person was in it or two, for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:17 AM
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I didn't say it was my belief, just that it's not a totally alien concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:18 PM
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The Romans thought the gayest thing a guy could do, gayer than being a bottom for butt-stuff, was to give a woman oral.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:04 PM
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Social circle date; get to know a guy before you date him. You'll get a sense for how he really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 11:13 PM
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Read Bowling Alone; socialization is down and falling, and has been for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:19 PM
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Selection bias; don't you think you're more likely to know more socially adventurous people?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:24 AM
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I think you have a right to all the info necessary to make a decision as huge as marriage; anything less is fraud basically. You shouldn't sell a car with a big crack in the frame without informing the buyer, why should you be able to hide a similarly large flaw from your fiance?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:51 PM
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The point behind those comparisons isn't to say they're equal, they're trying to find past actions the person -would- be bothered by, to point out the fact that the past actually does matter. Alice is a good partner if she discloses history she suspects her BF Bob would find disagreeable, whether or not she would find it disagreeable. So he can make an informed decision about the relationship. It's not about whether any specific history is worth reporting, it's "Would my partner be hurt to find …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:40 PM
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Would you feel some type of way about it if, after getting married, you found out your husband was a pedo before you met him?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:32 PM
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I don't think the OF example is necessarily hypocrisy. It could be in some cases, but in others might not. It depends on what the person in question thinks about their own behavior. "OF creators are gross, porn is immoral. I admit I watch it, but I really shouldn't; I'm weak" isn't hypocrisy. "OF creators are gross, porn is immoral. Except when I watch it, then it's ok because reasons." is hypocrisy. We all have values we don't always live up to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:37 PM
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Leaving the relationship, from the other person's perspective, IS punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:37 AM
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That's not a difference, because the enforcement is the same. Implied in "You can't do XYZ" is the ultimatum that if you do, I will end the relationship. These statements mean the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:21 AM
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How does it effect her in any way if I have sex with someone else? And if she does get upset about it, how is that not just "her ego getting a little bruised"? There's no categorical difference between boundaries and controlling behavior. The only difference is degree; under some threshold it's "healthy boundaries", over that threshold is "controlling".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:56 PM
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Can I fuck women other than my girlfriend? I mean, boundaries "have to be something done to you". How is it any of her business who I have sex with? Or is that different somehow? Boundaries are just conditions you would end the relationship over. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:47 PM
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There is no solution at a societal scale. Online dating and the bar scene make up ~70% of new relationships, and that number is growing. Both are places where you have to be naturally attractive, both physically and charismatically. A lot of guys just aren't. But that's not to say there's nothing you can do. If you personally know anyone who struggles romantically; take them out and make them socialize with girls, wing-man for them basically. Also, this isn't directly related, but a good article…
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 05:28 AM
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I'm getting there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:22 AM
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No. Seems cruel as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:11 AM
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Was up all night with your mom. Serious answer though, I was in a pretty dark place when I made the account. I was just tired of basically everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:57 AM
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What does the word mean if it's up to everyone to decide for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:20 AM
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You assume these reproductive strategies are only coded in the sex chromosomes. What if they aren't? What if they're in one of the other 22 chromosomes? So both men and women would get them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 08:56 PM
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Ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 08:38 PM
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You could have that backwards. Evolution can lead to monogamy, because monogamy leads to better odds that children will be successful. And social conditioning can lead to promiscuity because sex sells.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 08:34 PM
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Women bad 😡
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:15 AM
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Considering lesbian marriages are more likely to end in divorce than hetero, I'd say we do know who, on average, is most likely to break a marriage. More women = more divorce risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:31 PM
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What if your partner is at work? What if she isn't able to support you at that moment because of her own emotions? If you're hurt and she's hurt more, who takes care of you? What if she doesn't exist in the first place? Like, having her around some times is better than never.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 03:44 PM
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Oh? If you're so sure of yourself come to NY and tell me to my face. Face it, you're wrong and you know it. If you weren't you wouldn't hide behind a keyboard.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:38 AM
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I don't know enough of your stances to pick one to argue against, but just know, you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:33 AM
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Why? So when we're done we can have make-up sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:27 AM
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Sure it is. Women like that guys take charge and get their way, but it's not a good thing when they push boundaries and get their way over her protestations. They get attracted by seeing the traits in a positive context, start a relationship with the guy, and then start to see he takes it too far. It's a goldilocks kind of thing; there's a middle ground sweet spot for dark triad traits, but it isn't always immediately apparent when a guy has too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:55 PM
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A guy with a high body count must be high value; he couldn't have racked up those numbers if he wasn't. A girl with a low body count must be high value; surely she must have rejected a lot of guys, so she must be "worth" a lot. Not all low body count guys or high body count girls are lower value; body count is just a useful heuristic to make quick estimates. Morality never factors into it for these guys; they just want the best deal they can get. I agree with you, OP, about the arguments for cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:31 PM
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No, 60% of men have been on A date. A single date in his lifetime is enough to put a guy in that 60%. Check out r/ForeverAlone, plenty of guys there can get a handful of bad first dates, a few can get a second date now and then, but that doesn't mean they're successfully dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:17 PM
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One of the dark triad traits; basically how likely you are to pick fights. It can be good; some fights should be fought. Can be bad if you pick too many needlessly or against people who will crush you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:11 PM
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A lot of qualities bad boys have are good in small doses; ambition, confidence, disagreeableness, aggression. It's easy to not see that someone has too much of them. And by the time you start to notice, you're stuck in a relationship with this person. The halo effect and sunk cost fallacy are scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:48 PM
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Good people can make mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:04 PM
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Because he's attractive for other reasons, and the halo effect makes her see lots of "bad boy" traits from a more positive perspective. "He isn't an asshole, he's -confident-." basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 03:39 PM
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What exactly do you expect men to do about it? Why would the men who treat women badly care what we have to say? Like say we admonish one about it; "Hey, you really shouldn't pump and dump women, it's really cruel", they'll just reply "Don't care, had sex." The kind of people you're trying to reach are the same kinds of people who will ignore you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:43 PM
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I find physical appearance to be a more sure-fire way for a woman to attract me, but personality can work too. Some hobbies too, like music especially. I think there's a minimum threshold for both personality and for appearance. But there's more wiggle room around the personality threshold if she's really hot; mostly because I'm an absolute sucker for the halo effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:20 AM
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They don't. But they do if you want to post a thread on reddit about how superior you are because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:27 PM
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Superficial people exist, and he's one of them. How serious and deep can these relationships be if they're still FWB's?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:15 PM
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What's with the replication crisis then? Did Boghossian make that up too? And why is it worst in the softest and most liberally-dominated subjects?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:10 PM
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because you've never been to a university we'd be at a much better place. Graduated Magna cum Laude, bud. I know how it all works. Peer review doesn't do shit if the peers are all biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 08:58 PM
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How many times do people like Peter Boghossian need to get journals to publish obvious garbage that plays to their biases before you accept maybe we have a problem in academia?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:06 PM
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I'm for sure the "have you ever tried not being depressed" type. As someone who is probably depressed, I think there's honestly value in this type of thinking. Not saying it's easy, but forcing myself to do things I rationally know should make me feel better actually does eventually make me feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:04 PM
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There's an idea in law called a "Statement against interest." Basically, anything someone says that hurts their own case should have more credibility and admissibility than things they say that help their own case. The idea being they wouldn't lie against their own case. The same idea is happening with universities and RP. When a militant feminist says something negative about women, that's good evidence it's accurate. It must be so undeniable that no amount of bias can hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:01 PM
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No matter who wins, we lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:56 PM
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Men and women both do this, but opposite one another. Ask a man what kind of woman he likes, and he might say "Big titty goth girls". He assumes an acceptable personality, and specifies what physical traits he'd like. Ask a woman what kind of man she likes, and she'll say she wants a kind, confident, ambitious guy. She assumes he's tall, physically fit, and has a full head of hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:54 AM
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"Have you heard of the dogpill?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:55 PM
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Age doesn't matter, seriousness does. Someone her age isn't necessarily more likely to be looking for a serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:39 PM
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Morality faces selection pressures just like life. And just like how helpful mutations propagate while harmful mutations die out, the same is true of social structures. Think about how many religions ban the consumption of pork; surely nobody at the time understood this, but avoiding pork protected people from getting some pretty nasty parasites. This kind of thing can be true of less obvious taboos too, maybe even some nobody understands today. The idea that people can just, in one lifetime, ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:11 AM
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I like musical women. Also really like equestrians, mostly the uniform.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:03 AM
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The difficulty comes in her choosing which of those 2000 men to trust. Which of those men have what she is looking for. The thing is, men have this same problem too if they want a relationship. There are just as many shitbag women not worth dating as there are men. Who is more likely to win the lottery, the person with 2000 tickets, or the person with 2?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:23 PM
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would have seen the long make-up routines, shavings, and all other fashion to stay competitive amongst other women competitors. But I frequently see women say they do these things for themselves, not out of some competition for male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:18 PM
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I have muscular dystrophy, no I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:32 PM
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They probably are jaded and narcissistic, but I don't think "looks down on women who haven't had more success" necessarily follows, because men care less about women's success in general. Successful women don't benefit from it, in terms of attraction, much, and unsuccessful women aren't harmed much by it, in terms of attraction. That said, there's probably some selection bias going on; the men most likely to climb the highest ranks are machiavellian psychos, and they look down on everyone, man o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:18 PM
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No, I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:29 PM
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Theyre generally stronger, taller I'm not. These things don't really help in every-day life. Most people aren't lumberjacks or w/e. Outside of the physical attraction benefits of height and strength, these traits really are meaningless in the modern world. dont get periods and have an easier time going to the bathroom Fair, though not really a huge deal. If a man wants kids someday he has substantially time to work with Biologically, yes. Practically, no. I constantly hear on ppd how age-gap rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:28 AM
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You ever watch any of those fat people shows on TLC? Where they wretch at the taste of a brussels sprout? Do you think that's an immutable thing? Or, are they so used to eating the fattiest, sugariest things that healthy food now seems gross to them? Standards can change.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:15 PM
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How many women are on-call at the power company when a big storm knocks out power to half the state? What do you think the gender ratio for lineman looks like?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:11 PM
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mine is also hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:30 PM
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Within a margin of error, sure. But not if you really go off the deep end. It gets hard to not accidentally let something slip the more you have to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:02 AM
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A doctor can afford a better divorce lawyer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:02 AM
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How are you going to make the deal sound good for them? Presumably most of these women are married, so the tax benefits help their husbands too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:08 PM
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Way more women are abused by the dirtbags they date, than by the incels they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:56 PM
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This is all Louis CK did and he got MeToo'd for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 08:20 PM
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Fetus literally means "offspring".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 03:40 PM
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I'm not very fast, a chase seems unlikely to be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:49 AM
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"I miss my empty hedonism!!! Woe is me!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:47 AM
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I bet if we played a blindfold game I'd mate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:20 AM
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I'm rated about 1250 in rapid on Chess.com.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:00 AM
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Do you think pickiness is immutable? I don't. Like this idea that women HAVE to only be attracted to the best guys just isn't true. It reminds me of the fat people shows on TLC, where they have some 600lb person who wretches at the taste of a brussels sprout. Because they're so used to sugary, fatty foods; i.e. the best tasting foods, less tasty, healthy food tastes downright gross to them. Well, why wouldn't the same be true of physical attraction? Our culture puts such an insane emphasis on ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:17 PM
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What makes you think you have any answers I might want?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:01 PM
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Being tall means you had better access to food as a child, so your parents were successful hunter-gatherers, meaning you probably are too. Being tall also helps with upper body strength, which women are attracted to in general as well. Being a few inches taller helps in a fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:17 PM
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I frequently see posts on askmen from women asking "Why didn't he notice my hints I'm attracted to him?". It seems likely that sometimes, a woman's friends might not catch on either, wouldn't it? The "fat girl" isn't necessarily cockblocking on purpose, maybe she's just unaware and doesn't know when to butt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:50 PM
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I'm saying the OP straight-up asked if the spouse should pay it. But he also said he wanted to exclude allowances. I'm saying I don't see a meaningful difference between a working spouse paying a salary to a non-working spouse, and a working spouse paying an allowance to a non-working spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:59 PM
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If so, should the spouse pay it or the state?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:44 PM
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What's the difference between an allowance, and the working spouse paying the homemaking spouse a salary?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:11 PM
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Being a good dating option, and being a good friendship option are not the same thing. I had many female friends in high-school, but dating was, and still seems to be impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:08 PM
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If men have a higher libido on average than women, they would. Imagine 10 guys and 10 girls. Everyone in the group wants casual sex. The guys want casual sex 5 times a month, the girls want casual sex once a month. The best guy gets casual sex 5 times, a different girl each time. The 2nd best guy also gets it 5 times. Now all 10 girls are satisfied, but only two guys got any action at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:43 PM
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Work doesn't create value out of thin air. Go ahead and make those tables, if there's nobody who wants to buy them, you didn't make any value. You just wasted your time. But that's besides the point, because I'm not arguing against capitalism. I'm arguing against the idea that social mobility is a solution to men's dating woes. It isn't. If we all work harder, all that does is increase competition; the heirarchy is still in the same order, women still only want the better guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:31 PM
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Society is a series of prisoner's dilemmas, and the health of a society seems to be inversely correlated to how often people choose "defect".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:48 PM
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It has never been easier to climb the socioeconomic ladder. This is a zero-sum game. We can't all be CEO's.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:39 PM
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Studying is a vice?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:38 AM
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I don't remember the Feminist War. When did women win liberation? Oh wait, they didn't. Men gave it to them. I mean, if only men had rights at one time, and women didn't wage a literal civil war to get rights, then that must mean that men gave them those rights. This idea that women did it all on their own just isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:51 PM
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A lot more men than women still find vanity shameful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:51 PM
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You should look into prisoner's dilemmas. Once you notice one or two, you will see them everywhere; basically every problem we have today is because way too many people, when faced with a prisoner's dilemma, always pick "defect".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:47 PM
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Selection bias; intra-gender questions tend to be bad, because only posters who are too dumb to read the rules post them. If they were allowed, the average intra-gender question would be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:29 PM
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If we're discussing rules now, can we look into getting rid of #14? I wanted to ask men questions before. I kinda understand not allowing intra-color questions, the sub would just become TRP-lite then, but intra-gender should be harmless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:17 PM
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I think most are sad losers. Not really bad people, just pathetic and stuck in a rut of self-loathing. Until like a week ago I would have said they all were, and that the stereotypical angry hateful asshole incel was a myth, but I finally met one myself. So they do exist, but their abundance is way over-rated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 03:43 PM
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Proven how? A successful false accusation will look like an accusation proven true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:53 AM
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No, I said your claim was unsubstantiated. I am saying your certainty that false accusations are rare is unfounded. Maybe they are rare, but you can't know that. We don't have a crystal ball to tell us the absolute truth of any accusation. A successful false accusation will be recorded as an assault conviction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:43 AM
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Clearly, considering you haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:35 AM
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No, I suggest guys actually read what I write.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:31 AM
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What is your evidence for that claim? I mean, imagine the CCTV camera had malfunctioned that day, and had not recorded their interaction. Do you think it might not have gone so well for Mr. Pearson? We don't have a crystal ball to tell us the accuracy of any conviction. The only thing we know are rare are false accusation convictions; but how many false accusations end with an innocent person being convicted? We can't know this figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:30 AM
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No, I didn't. You assumed that when you said that women are more likely to be abused than men are to be false accused. I didn't say anything about the likelihood of accuracy of any convictions, whether for false accusation or for abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:26 AM
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No, "situations like this" are "false accusations that lead all the way to trial or worse". But like I have repeatedly said, it's not just how common false accusations are or aren't. The problem is guys who want to do right, who have empathy, are told a million ways they could be doing wrong, and no ways to do right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:21 AM
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False accusations are rare and heinous and I think someone who falsely accuses another person should have to do jail time themselves (though this would probably also be hard to prove). We don't even get to know the woman's name who accused Mark Pearson. And the prosecutor even had the gall to say, after he was acquitted, that there was sufficient evidence to bring the case. Two seconds of CCTV footage in which nothing happens was "sufficient evidence".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:09 AM
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Do you think things would have gone better for him had he talked to her? It seems to me that if simply being near her put him danger, talking to her would be even worse. Think about it, he'd be spending more time in her presence; and maybe the crowd would block him from view of the CCTV camera for a few seconds, and she'd claim the assault occurred then. But like I said, the point isn't how common situations like this are, it's that the constant bombardment of messaging about all the different w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:06 AM
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But the people who do the harassment dont give a shit about the messaging. Only people who don't need it pay attention to it, and it drives them crazy with worry that they're not empathetic enough or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:57 AM
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You can't, most are indeterminate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:51 AM
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far more likely to be victims of sexual harassment/abuse than men are to be victims of false accusations of the same. How can you know this? You're assuming only accusations that are proven false are false. What about false accusers who get away with it? They'll be recorded as an abuse conviction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:46 AM
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Mark Pearson got a sexual assault charge that made it all the way to trial for walking past a woman on a subway platform in London. It's not just that story though. Any of these extreme single events can be waved off as a freak occurrence, something men shouldn't be worried about given the odds of it happening to them, specifically. You might even say that collectively they're rare. I wouldn't disagree with that. But it completely ignores the high-powered propaganda from feminists, complicit cor…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:33 AM
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I don't have any. Don't wanna be banned for woe-is-me, so I'll keep this brief and non-specific. My life is bad, in ways I don't believe hard work can fix.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 01:06 AM
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My point is that we don't decide our own worth. The market, society, does. Unfortunately looks are in pretty high demand, so if you aren't attractive, your worth is pretty low. Imagine I think I'm charming and charismatic. But every time I go to a party, nobody wants to listen to anything I have to say. They zone out while I tell stories, roll their eyes at my jokes, try to duck out of conversations with me. Am I actually charming and charismatic? It really doesn't seem like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 09:28 PM
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Men take more risks in general, so of course they would.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 09:11 PM
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What does "worth" mean to you then?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 09:06 PM
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Would be banned in a healthy society.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 04:29 PM
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As a man you naturally have an urge to accomplish and chase goals. You have that desire to go out, hunt and conquer. No, I don't. You like to escalate with the ones who reciprocate your vibe Hasn't happened yet, so I wouldn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 06:20 AM
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All those replies can also mean "Fuck off".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:18 PM
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He was already admitted and in a room.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:03 PM
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The nurses mostly just blew us off. Didn't seem to give a fuck. And it's not like this is the only time they've done shit like this. They have repeatedly let me and my family down, over and over again, typically through sheer laziness. I've seen overworked people before. They don't have time or energy for tiktok.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:49 PM
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They talked about how overworked and brutal healthcare was, and yet they found the time and energy to choreograph dance numbers in empty halls in their hospitals. I saw the hospitals in Italy, where patients were packed in rooms and down the halls. There was no dancing. And "hardest working?" Nurses avoid work like the plague, in my experience. I've been in and out of the healthcare industry over and over again. Most nurses do the absolute bare minimum. Get this; when my dad had cancer, he went …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:22 PM
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The nurses are too busy finding 3-4 people to help them turn their multiple morbidly obese patients And they still find time to dance on tiktok. God that trend pissed me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:07 PM
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Seems like the answer is "No, they didn't". Because they admit they didn't control for smoking, for example. In fact they noticed smoking was over-represented in the underweight sample.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:00 PM
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Does this study correct for the fact that most underweight people are underweight because they're wasting away due to cancer or some other horrible illness?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:48 PM
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As long as she's not a widow because she killed hubby #1, I'd date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:17 AM
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Par for the course for reddit mods tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:18 PM
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I have seen many success posts on r/ForeverAlone, in which the OP explained that he had been miserable until he got a relationship. Having some success turned his life around in every way. So I don't buy this whole "If you're miserable outside a relationship, you'll be miserable in a relationship too." schtick.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:30 PM
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I've seen plenty of people post about how they were hurt by how much better they were treated when they lost weight. Made all their contacts seem like shallow assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:21 AM
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I'm saying it's mathematically impossible for more than 50% of men to be below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:04 AM
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Do you understand how averages work? How can the number of men below average increase?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:00 AM
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I think there is more opportunity to avoid violence, given arranged marriages or even just structured social circle dating. More opinions are available about a woman's prospective partners; she can get advice, she isn't just on her own. By dating within a social circle, she herself likely knows more about the guys as well; so it's harder for dirtbags to hide their dirtbaggery. A guy considering being a dirtbag has to worry about the consequences to his social circle; fear of drama, and being shu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:42 PM
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Sounds immoral to me. But no worse than casual sex in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:33 PM
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This makes me less likely to become his victim. Associating with him at all makes you more likely to become his victim. Including fulfilling only your sexual needs with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:26 AM
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I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm saying higher selectivity is to be expected in the free-for-all situation we have now, but it's a poor substitute for organized, social-circle courtship/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:23 AM
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The thing is though, our society and courtship rituals make violence far more likely. ~40% of relationships start online, another ~30% start in bars. Neither of which allow women much, if any knowledge of the guy's reputation. So it's a lot easier for a habitual abuser to find new victims. Further, the girl isn't a part of the guy's social circle, so he has no risk of fucking up his friend group. Women don't have dirt-bag radar, and in the unstructured dating system we have now, women are kinda …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 02:30 AM
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Before contraception there were way more teenage husbands and wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 05:21 PM
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Women worked odd-jobs to supplement their husbands, or before industrialization they were busy doing all the less physically-demanding tasks a pre-modern house needed while the men of the family were working in the fields. Women having full-on careers is far from the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 05:29 AM
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This was not always the case. Widespread adult sexlessness is a new thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:13 AM
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Everywhere that built more than straw huts. Even in the few civilized societies where polygamy was legal, it was rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:09 AM
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Shouldn't the "Question for redpill" flair be red??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:51 PM
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You have a narrow-minded view because you're only looking at western christian societies. I'm looking at all civilized societies actually. Even the ones that technically allowed polygyny, like many Muslim societies for example, it was rare. And even the little they had caused them many problems, like having a surplus of desperate, directionless young men. The only societies with widespread polygyny never grew beyond tribes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:48 PM
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but a lot of women also died from pregnancy and childbirth complications. yeah but you can see how that still means more female ancestors, right? There have been several long periods in human history where the modus operandi for war was "Kill all the males, make the females sex slaves". Again, you can see how this skews the ratios right? I mean, the stat in that study we're implicitly discussing is 1/17th as many male ancestors as female, right? Imagine you have a tribe of 50 men and 50 women. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:41 PM
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Yes, I know the neolithic was polygynous. And it sucked for everyone, except the best men I guess. Would you like to go back?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:32 PM
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I don't. I think it's a prisoner's dilemma. People want sexual freedom in a world that others do not have it. They want to be able to find and have stable relationships, but also have sex on the side. The problem is, if too many people have sex on the side, or are perceived to have done so, everyone suffers because there's no trust left and relationships get harder and harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:31 PM
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True. Would you like to go back to the neolithic? Or how about Rome? Where the head of your household could have you killed for any reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:27 PM
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I don't want to force servitude on women. I'm saying that men are expected to have empathy for the ways in which history was hard on women, but when it comes to ways it was hard on men all I get is "Oh well, we're going back to it anyways".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:34 PM
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Yes, it does. Because it decreases the stability of the dating marketplace. It's harder to find healthy relationships. It absolutely does hurt you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:25 PM
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I dgas if other people want to practice polygamy. You should, for the same reason you should care if other people run internal combustion engines. It might not be obvious how it hurts you, but it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:17 PM
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So why not develop beyond polygamy? OH WAIT, We DID. Monogamy was the norm for millennia.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:11 PM
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I'm sure they did. But if you think cheating, in societies where violence was much easier to get away with, explains the discrepancy in number of male ancestors, you're crazy. The rich guy will just get brained in his sleep if he gets too many women to cheat with him. Remember there's no criminal forensics in 735AD. The bottleneck you're citing in a round-about way dates to the beginning of agriculture. Long before the development of ritualized courtship and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 07:47 PM
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This is just not true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_European_marriage_pattern easily 97 percent of Florentine women were married by the age of 25 years while 21 years was the typical age of an English bride.[37][24] and The rise of Christianity created more incentives to keep families nuclear; the Church instituted marriage laws and practices that undermined large kinship groups. From as early as the fourth century, the Church discouraged any practice that enlarged the family, like adop…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 07:38 PM
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Funny how "This is just how things always were" only flies when things are bad for men. If I say that women shouldn't work, and should be married and pregnant by 20yo, because that's how things were for most of human history, that's unacceptable. But also, your point isn't even true. First, there weren't millions of sexless losers out there. Most men didn't reproduce because most men died really young. Second, in most civilized societies, monogamy was the norm. Most men in them DID procreate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 07:33 PM
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I want a wife. But I'm replying because I gotta clear this up. BUT THE NUMBER OF DM’S Do you think men who want relationships don't have to filter? A similarly-small number of women would be right for any particular guy. I mean think about it, who is more likely to win the lottery, the person who buys one ticket, or the person who buys 1000?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:43 PM
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Why do you think sexual liberation is a solution? As we have gotten more sexually liberated, the problem has gotten worse, not better. These problems didn't exist before the 60's. Casual sex being easier doesn't help average guys, because the best guys are always up for more. Why would a girl pick an average guy for a one night stand when a better guy is always available? The prevalence of casual sex exacerbates the problem actually, because it damages the shared trust we need to form relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:32 PM
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The guys who can't grow a beard can sculpt one?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:36 AM
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Make-up is NOT an immutable trait, beards are. Some guys just cannot grow one. The hair just isn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:35 AM
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Why do you bring up women in poor countries? Are they a big demographic in the dating game in the west?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 11:04 PM
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All women have access to make-up, not all men have access to beards.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:50 PM
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The point is that make-up is not equivalent to beards in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:31 PM
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There are millions of hours of tutorials on youtube, they can learn. No amount of tutorials will make a beard grow. There's nothing immutable about a woman that prevents her from learning at least some make-up techniques.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:30 PM
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not every guy can grow a good beard. It literally just doesn't grow in where they want it to. Edit: lmfao they're downvoting me. r/NotHowGuysWork worthy stuff here if they deny that not all guys can grow beards.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:08 PM
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Women do not grow make-up. Many men cannot grow the beards they want, it just doesn't come in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:06 PM
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Life used to involve self-improvement naturally. My dad didn't need to go to the gym; he worked a physically demanding job. He didn't need to force himself to socialize; there was nothing else to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 09:12 PM
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I have never thought about it, and now that you bring it up, I'm struggling to form an opinion either way. I guess that means my answer is 'I don't care'.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:37 AM
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I guess skin color meta is in and gender meta is out in this year's oppression olympics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 12:37 AM
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I think physical attraction isn't exactly baked in biologically though either. I think there's quite a bit of malleability in it, in where the thresholds lie, where culture can come in. A healthy culture is one in which "attractive enough" is a very wide range, so most energy spent dating is spent on searching for good personalities, not good cheekbones or whatever. Society needs stable, healthy families, and the more people focus on aesthetics, the less that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 12:14 AM
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In some cases, yes. There are some women I know are not good people, who I feel bad about being attracted to. There a few women I know who are good people, who I feel bad about not being attracted to. But I think men generally have a much wider range of women they're attracted to than visa versa, so I'm not sure it's as damaging to social cohesion. The hyperfocus on physical attraction that sexual liberation has brought about is sending narcissism through the roof.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 11:49 PM
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Men should too, yes. Honestly though the real problem is that courtship is unstructured now. Leads to all these shitty outcomes for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:53 PM
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There's others. All the time wasted on bad info that you can't get back. The fact that a world where looks really didn't matter would be more pro-social; stable, kind, hardworking people would have more success, unlike in the real world where felons have more romantic success than MIT grads.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:48 PM
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I don't want compliments really at all. I get them now and then, and it just makes me uncomfortable. I just dumbly blurt out "thanks", but I don't mean it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 06:34 PM
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What grants a fetus personhood, and not some other piece of tissue, such as tumor? It's got its own unique DNA. A tumor, not so much. Also what strikes me as inconsistent is that most anti-choice people are not rallying against IVF, in which lots of fetuses are created and thrown away. I think this is best explained by a combination of two things. Probably a lot of pro-life people just don't realize this. It is my, admittedly-limited, understanding that IVF doesn't inherently waste any fetuses; …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:48 PM
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Because "personhood" can't be measured. As an aside, "fetus" is the latin word for "offspring" btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:38 PM
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What I don't get is why it bothers her. If she did all that stuff for herself, why does it matter if he didn't care? I grow my own jalapenos. Imagine I get a gf, and over the course of 5 years I selectively breed my jalapenos into a delicious, unique cultivar that's all my own. But she doesn't like spicy food. Should I get butthurt she doesn't care about my efforts? Like, ok, you decorated your house. But if he doesn't actually care how "cozy" it is, which you clearly already knew since it was e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:34 PM
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Men actually have more sexual partners than women do overall. A lot of this is gay men inflating men's numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 06:09 AM
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QED I'm gay now
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 10:39 PM
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As long as her stupidity doesn't lead to a bunch of credit card debt or something similarly boneheaded, I don't care. In some cases, it can be endearing; sometimes stupid people have fun perspectives on things. Addendum: I had to listen to that riddle like 10 times before I caught on. idk if it was the thick accent or if I'm just slow.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:39 AM
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I think she's kinda cute. "Youtuber who posts about serious content" is a big red flag though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:35 AM
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Why do you keep lying? It's often women who advocate for FGM. A common horror story is a father finding out their wife or mother-in-law had his daughter cut as part of some insane tradition. Further, you've really never seen women say how they prefer circumcised? Doesn't that mean it's about her "enhanced pleasure"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:27 PM
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Right, but like, it's all bad isn't it? And yet for some reason, MGM isn't just seen as ok, it's the norm. ~100 baby boys die every year from complications, and who knows how many more are maimed for no reason, but that's not misandry somehow?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:22 PM
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Circumcision sucks but at least the organ is still functional, the equivalent of fgm in a man is to remove the whole head. But you just cut off a piece of skin. This is a lie. Many forms of FGM don't remove any tissue at all. Even pinpricks count.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:04 PM
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No. I wish I did though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 07:43 PM
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No, I won't "ditch her for a younger model". I'll have built up lots of happy memories I won't have with hot, younger women. I want a family, I'm not gonna blow it up just because we're both aging.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 04:07 PM
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Blood clots could form and kill that person. First of all, your captors can just include a low dose of heparin, a blood thinner, in your IV. Second, you don't think loneliness has any health effects? Unfortunately, it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 06:45 PM
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Do you need to move? No. You'd survive being shackled to a bed and fed intravenously. You won't die. I mean, you might want to, but you won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 04:49 PM
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Because all, or nearly all women have to agree to this plan. It's a prisoner's dilemma. It only works if not too many women defect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:37 PM
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These posts are great, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:07 AM
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18yo's are old enough to sign up for possibly-life-ruining student loans, join the military and kill or be killed, run or vote for public office, but they're not mature enough to decide who they want to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:55 PM
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Jane Leeves Linda Fiorentino
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:07 PM
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so rare that you only have one case in the ENTIRE western world in history. No, I have one case that made it to international news. I wonder how many accusations are just as flimsy, but weren't on camera, and so did not end well for the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:31 PM
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So I guess having PTSD is a good thing now?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:31 AM
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This guy barely interacted with this women and it destroyed his life. Yeah, he won the case, but that doesn't undo the damage the trial did to him. The fact that it went all the way to trial is unconscionable. Imagine a case where he actually had approached her rather than just walk by her, and unfortunately it was out of line-of-sight of a security camera. Do you have some reason to believe it would have gone better for him? Because it seems to me it would be her word against his, and the prose…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:10 AM
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Do you think he would have been better off if he had approached her?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:28 AM
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You're right, it wasn't for approaching. He did even less.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 01:56 AM
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Mark Pearson was walking through a subway terminal in the UK when he walked past a woman who's name has been withheld by police. Their whole "encounter", if you can even call it an encounter, lasts just a couple of seconds and was filmed by a security camera; nothing happens. She accused him of sexually assaulting her. It went all the way to trial. It ruined his life; do you know what the legal bills for defending yourself against sexual assault allegations are like? Do you know what it's like w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:32 AM
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How many slightly less insane, but still life-destroying examples happen and don't make the news?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:01 PM
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The point is the system fucked him over for over a year. Do you know how stressful that must have been? How much his legal defense must have cost? I mean he's said he has PTSD now because of it. Sure, it's good that he wasn't convicted, but it still completely fucked his life up. And she'll face no consequences. We don't even get to know her name.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:29 PM
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How many less extraordinary cases go almost as far and get no media attention? If the courts actually ARE good, something so blatantly ridiculous would never have happened. Imagine if it wasn't actually on video, or if a technical bug had erased the footage; he'd probably be in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:33 PM
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In reality, the courts are pretty good with these things. Mark Pearson was walking through a busy subway terminal in the UK, when he walked past a woman whose name has been withheld by police. The whole "encounter", if you even can call it an encounter, lasted just a couple seconds and is entirely on security camera footage. Nothing happens in it. She accused him of sexually assaulting her, and despite overwhelming evidence that nothing happened, his case made it all the way to trial.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 03:15 PM
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Dogs also don't have a sense of self or the future beyond the next few minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 04:23 PM
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I forget, is in-group bias good or bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 04:03 PM
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War used to be immensely profitable for men of all ages. It was the best chance for upward mobility anybody had for most of human history. You could be a dirt farmer your whole life, or go and steal 10x more stuff, women, and slaves from a neighboring realm in one season than you could ever hope to acquire fairly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:59 PM
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I don't think I'm autistic. I don't really see myself in any of the common descriptions of autism, and I've never been diagnosed.
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 10:36 PM
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Problem with the study; first you ask how many romantic and sexual partners we've had. Later, you ask questions about how we relate to our romantic and sexual partners. How is someone who answered "zero" for the former supposed to answer the later?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 09:02 PM
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Fewer people have been killed in all incel crimes combined than in Chicago in one year. Incel-related murders are a drop in the bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 08:50 PM
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I mean, I'm pretty severely disabled and I hate him. Every time some idiot like him plays to the whole "inspirational" angle, it makes it more likely people will say I'm inspirational, which I take as an insult. Have you ever seen the movie 127 Hours? It's a true story, about a guy hiking alone in the American Southwest. A big-ass boulder falls on his arm, pinning him in place, and trapping him there for 5 days. Rather than give up and die of thirst or heat-stroke, the guy sawed his arm off with…
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 01:43 AM
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Squirmy and Grubs is not a real couple, it's a business. They have a couple million followers across all their social media accounts. And the guy, Shane Burcaw, has been doing the whole "inspiration porn" grift for over a decade at this point.
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 01:14 AM
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I would say that men have lower standards than women; their threshold for "attractive enough" is lower. But it's harder to get a guy to make an exception by having other positive traits. By this I mean, a girl might seek +7's, but will accept a charming, well-off 5. A guy might seek +3's, but won't accept anyone less than 2.9 no matter how many other pluses she has.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 05:46 AM
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Also, if everything was so "great" you would still be with that person Unless I was the one who got dumped. You don't think people can pine for the one who got away?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 07:02 PM
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People can love their possessions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 03:26 PM
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I would say he's just selfish. He loves her, just he thinks it's worth hurting her to keep chasing other women. Either he can't control himself, or he's decided he'd rather hurt her than stop. He cares about her, just not quite as much as about himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 05:13 AM
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I know a guy who cheated constantly on his wife, but if someone else were to hurt her feelings, he'd jump in to defend her. Is that love? Like he clearly felt something for her, right? If he didn't, he wouldn't have bothered defending her, would he? Once again, I don't mean this as a defense of cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 05:06 AM
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No. Not defending him btw, he's still an asshole. I just don't think that means he doesn't love his wife. Shitty people are capable of love, they're just not necessarily good at following through on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 04:55 AM
3

Expecting progressives to help men is like expecting Exxon to help the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 04:29 AM
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Depends what you mean by "friends". If you mean, we get along in a group setting, sure I can do that. If you mean you and I do stuff just the two of us, pretty much definitely no, unless we have some glaring incompatibility that makes it obvious that I could never become more than just friends. I wouldn't want to make it weird between you and your SO. I'm not gonna try any funny business, but I don't really want him worrying I will. Just because I'm confident I can control my temptations doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:08 PM
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A doesn't seem like much of a "zone". I tend to think of it as a place you can find yourself; I'm sure you've read about people "stuck in the friend zone". Does A sound like he's stuck? B does sound like he's stuck. I think both A and B are unlikely extremes though. I don't think there are all that many fuckboys out there playing the friend to get sex, and I don't think there are all that many women out there knowingly stringing some poor sap along for favors/validation. I think more a more comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:45 AM
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B
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:18 AM
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You've really never been reluctant to do something, then in the end you were glad you did?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 02:17 AM
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It causes it. Your inflated standards cause their loneliness. They hurt you too, btw. Rejecting a great person because they're not perfect is stupid and hurts you both.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 01:40 AM
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You really don't think people can have inflated standards? Standards that make no sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 01:16 AM
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What if you are into her? My point is if her preferences are ridiculous, she and someone else are alone for no good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 01:08 AM
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I would assume it is not a real account. I would still swipe right, but I would assume it was fake until we met in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 12:56 AM
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At worst your preferences keep you alone. Not true. If they keep you alone, they also keep someone else alone. If there's a population of 5 guys and 5 girls, and one of the girls has impossible preferences, only 8 people will have partners, not 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 12:32 AM
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The majority of men marry in the west. Not necessarily. The majority of men are married, but the rates are slowing down and the average age for first marriage is increasing. I don't think we can say that most men 18~30 will marry. I don't think we can predict that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 03:39 PM
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I'm not into A, but I'm reasonably sure a lot of other guys will rate her pretty highly. She's well above average I think. I think B is pretty much average, maybe a teensy bit below; like a 4.9/10 or smth. C is solely held back by her weight, she looks like she'd be solidly well above average if she'd lose some. As she is now, I'd say she's also pretty average, maybe a little below as well, 4.8?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:48 AM
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OMG, That's just crazy enough it might work! I'll just never leave the shower, just 24/7 showering.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:38 AM
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If you have 100 guys, and women say that only 10 are at least average, you can still get 80% of messages going to average or lower guys, and still have the 80/20 rule work. Because each woman doesn't know how the other women rated each guy. So they can't actually tell what the true average is; only how they personally feel about each guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 07:56 PM
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What people perceive as average, and what actually is average don't have to be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 07:42 PM
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No. I'm saying if they only message Chad, and mistakenly think he is average, then 80% of messages will go to men rated average or lower, and still the 80/20 stat will be accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 06:19 PM
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Nothing. I don't do anything for aesthetics in general actually for myself or for others. Seems like re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic tbh. No hair cut or new shirt or w/e is gonna outweigh the wheelchair and concentration camp physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:52 PM
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What if they're rating Chad as average or lower? There's no reason women's perceptions have to follow a normal bell curve.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:43 PM
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If women's perceptions as to what "average" is are skewed, such that way more than 50% of guys are "average or lower", this does not contradict 80/20. Maybe they think chad is average.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:34 PM
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I frequently hear about women who need to get to know a guy to feel attracted to or interested in a him. How do I know this girl isn't one of them? Moreover, I frequently hear from women that they hate the way guys just move on, as though these girls are all interchangeable, like when it doesn't work we just move on to the next and try again. Except that's exactly what you're telling men to do right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:24 PM
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Not the whole planet, but the whole country at least. It destabilizes the relationship market. First, a lot of guys will, if casual sex is seen as a possibility, only seek that. Even if they themselves don't really have a chance at getting any. They'll miss out on good relationships because they'll pass them up thinking they can have more meaningless one-night stands or FWB's. People who ARE relationship minded have to worry whether this person they're into is actually considering a long-term re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 04:05 PM
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How tf am I living paycheck-to-paycheck on $350k a year? Why tf do I have maxed credit cards if I'm making $350k? Like if I get in the situation, things are so fucked up that feeling emasculated is the smallest problem I have at that point. For the sake of discussion, I'll forget the specific numbers and just assume whatever they are, we're short-term broke; maybe some big, unexpected expense drained our savings or whatever. I have no problem discussing finances. We're a team. The appeal in a st…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 06:14 AM
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Suppressing society’s natural sexual desires (that don’t directly harm anyone, of course) via religion just strikes me as incredibly dumb. This might seem like a tangent, but follow me on this, it'll make sense. You ever play Halo? Or Battlefield? The scoreboard is there so you can see how well you are personally doing for your team. It's a useful heuristic to see how helpful you are on the team, but it's not perfect. There's always one idiot on the team who hides in the back, doesn't push objec…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:45 AM
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There are degrees of "against their will". I don't think settling for a "meh" SO is worse than demographic collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 05:00 AM
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It's not just about sex, it's about forming families and raising kids. This is a prisoner's dilemma, and once again, everyone picks defect and we all suffer for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 04:38 AM
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I think sexual liberation has decoupled reproduction and romantic success from stability, which is dysgenic, societally. I don't think everyone should. I'm not saying we need some commission or whatever to ban certain people or anything, but we need a culture that rewards being a functional, decent member of society. What we have now, where people with felony convictions have more romantic success and more children than MIT grads, cannot be healthy for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 09:33 PM
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I always laugh a little inside when I see someone saying that increasing sexlessness among men is just a return to the norm, that only 30% of men reproduced in the past. Never mind for a minute the validity of the data (which is nowhere near clear-cut). They're implying that this is morally fine since hey, it's how things were always done! But somehow, if someone were to suggest that sexual liberation might be bad, and maybe should be reverted, suddenly most of human history is bad and we should…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 09:19 PM
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William the Bastard, later known as William the Conqueror, sent a request to marry the beautiful, much-higher born Mathilda of Flanders. She replied with a curt 'no', stating she, being so high-born, would never marry a bastard. Contemporary sources say William rode to her home-town, Bruges, found her with her entourage on her way to church, pulled her from her horse by her braids and savagely beat her in front of her attendants, then got back on his horse and rode away. Her father, Baldwin of N…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:20 AM
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I have said it before, but modern society, when faced with a prisoner's dilemma, always chooses defect. If the man's SMV is too much higher than ours, we know he has options and the window of opportunity with him will be too short for this strategy. If you would ALL make EVERY guy wait, he wouldn't have these options.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:13 AM
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Kinda disagree. Some people probably actually are beyond help.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 05:29 PM
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Ok, but it's still not via social circle stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 03:25 PM
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For a relationship? Or short-term?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 05:40 AM
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The problem isn't who ages better, it's that big age gaps are rare. Ok, maybe a 45yo guy who took care of himself still looks pretty good. But the women in his dating pool? Not many under-30's want anything serious with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 05:34 AM
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So? Can college kids not use the apps for some reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 03:47 AM
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If approaching is stigmatized so much nowadays as many users say, and apps were so popular as the dominant method, why do I see tons of couples in person? Why would seeing couples disprove the ubiquity of apps? Like maybe these couples began on OLD?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 03:16 AM
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I don't care. Probably won't even notice unless you're literally dripping with perfume.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 02:16 AM
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He didn't say he was.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 12:53 AM
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Addiction is a choice in the same way that choosing to jump out the 15th floor window of a burning high-rise apartment building instead of burning to death. Neither option is any good. The problem isn't that some people choose to jump out the window, the problem is that those are the only two options. OP is saying modern society offers people either a brutal, meaningless grind, or meaningless chemical bliss. An actual happy life is nowhere to be found for a lot of people.
/r/AllPillDebate23/04/23 04:20 AM
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People turn to drugs when their lives are bad, men and women alike.
/r/AllPillDebate23/04/23 04:15 AM
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It is. My point is just because gay men want males, doesn't mean they've completely switched to thinking like women.
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 05:43 PM
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Just because gay men want males instead of females doesn't mean they've lost their youth preference. Just because lesbians want females instead of males doesn't mean they've gained a youth preference.
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 05:18 PM
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What percentage of incel forum posters do you think hurt anyone other than themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:34 AM
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Some of them are, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:03 AM
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In 2020, 1320 women murdered someone. Usually, they're killing their kids or their SO's.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 11:56 PM
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So do women. In fact, women kill more than incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 11:25 PM
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I am convinced "on the FBI's radar" means "he was a rube we were trying to entrap, who went off-script."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 10:07 PM
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More people are killed in Chicago in a month than in all even-speculatively-incel-related killings combined.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 10:05 PM
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And heroin dealers couldn't sell heroin if people didn't want heroin.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 12:01 AM
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You're both the problem. A burglar isn't the only criminal; the fence he sells to is just as at fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:25 PM
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Not every market problem can be tackled from the demand side. Some have to be tackled from the supply side.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:21 PM
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Would you rather get shot 100 times or 10,000 times? Does it matter? You're dead either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:50 PM
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Public schools and pedophilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 09:43 PM
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I'm 31. They would initiate when they wanted things. Hanging out was basically never just fun. It was always them asking for favors, and we'd hang out afterwards. I would just push to hang out when I initiated. Not sure they even liked me, or if they just tolerated me because I would help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 09:35 PM
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Nah, I mean, my male friends are about 50/50; they try to hang out with me about as often as I try to hang out with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 09:31 PM
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I had female friends. All of them were very one-sided relationships. As soon as I stopped pushing to hang out or w/e, the relationships ended. In my experience, non-male friendships have not been valuable. They didn't compliment me ever, but I don't really like compliments anyways, so that's a wash I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:14 PM
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But the medians don't have to be the same. Imagine 10 guys and 10 girls. One guy is the hottest, most charming gigachad who ever lived. He makes all 10 girls plates; the girls are either fine with this arrangement, or don't ask questions. None of the other 9 guys get any. For both guys and girls, the average N-count is 1. For girls, the median N-count is 1 as well. But for guys, the median N-count is 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:46 PM
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There's a big difference between the average and the median. Imagine one guy with N=100 and 9 with N=0, the average N count will be 10. Further, even if 30% of men (or is it 30% of single men?), that's not a good sign for society. The family is the fundamental building block of society; if 63% of men aren't working on starting one, that's a terrible omen, demographically.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:40 PM
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Once every few years. An ATV once a decade is not a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 03:46 PM
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It takes a lot less work to support one guy than a family. Bachelors contribute much less to the economy; because when you can live comfortably and cheaply, there's no need to work harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 03:42 AM
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If it's not blaming men, why use a gendered term? I thought the left was all about the power of language?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:51 AM
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Are fast food employees awful too? Should they refuse service to a fat person? Yes. Should we not sell meat, gluten, and dairy in stores because it’s bad for some people? No. You know how you're not supposed to overserve someone if they're clearly too drunk? I would just extend that same concept long-term. So don't serve people you know are alcoholics. Same with OF; these girls don't HAVE to accept another $500 from the same guy who's already given them thousands.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:49 PM
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OF can destroy a guy's life too. Some guys pay insane amounts to these girls, every dime they get basically. I agree they're not as clearly going to die from it, but I don't think morality is solely decided based on if an action is life-threatening vs non-life-threatening. Things can be immoral and non-life-threatening. It's horrible that you have to serve the alcoholic. I would refuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:23 PM
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You can tell when your customer has had enough, no? Would you keep serving a guy you knew was doing serious damage to himself? Would you keep serving a guy you knew was an terrible alcoholic? Because that's where most of these OF girls make their money; they get tiny amounts from most of their subs, and then rake in the donations from sad losers who mistakenly think they have some kind of connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:01 PM
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It's a negative, but the dating market is so heavily skewed she'll still do fine. Personally, I have a complicated opinion on this subject. I am against dating sex workers in general. But I don't rate them all equally lowly. I find OnlyFans immoral on a bunch of different levels, so I want nothing to do with them. The big sticking point for me is the parasocial aspect, not the porn. The way they dripfeed attention to lonely saps, just enough to keep them hooked, is evil in my eyes; same business…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:48 PM
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Do you really think people can only become dependent on things the APA says they can?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:22 PM
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I don't care what the APA says.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:55 PM
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Who said I'm not?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:34 PM
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Yeah, I'd say it's immoral. I just have trouble seeing why I should care, when women don't return the favor when the situation is reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:33 PM
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It's the same thing. Lonely guys get hooked on the parasocial aspects, OF thots dripfeed attention to socially stunted saps. Just enough to keep them hooked, but not enough to be real.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:49 PM
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and men with beards are hiding their weak jawline. Agree on the other two, but beards are a positive thing on their own to some women. They're masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 06:07 AM
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A woman whose fashion sense was a dealbreaker wouldn't have been feminine. But you've said this hypothetical woman is feminine. Basically feminine fashion can't be awful, to me. These seem like mutually exclusive things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:52 AM
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A woman selling content online is not abusing men. A woman selling content to men who want to buy it is not abusing men. Do you think drug dealers are abusing their clients? These are the same men who would call their girlfriends insecure if they wanted him to delete nudes of his ex girlfriend. I don't even want nudes. Do I get to think OF thots are abusing their clients? Do I have your permission?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:56 AM
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She has different political views Depends on how different. I want kids, so the we'll need a united front in terms of what worldview we instill. We don't have to be identical, but we gotta be in the same ballpark. She's emotionally immature No sense of humor, boring personality, can't hold a conversation Then in what way is she friendly? Drowning in debt and terrible with money Debt is a big problem, especially if stupid debt like credit cards or w/e. Awful taste in music, fashion, food, in your…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:44 AM
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They can’t all be in relationships with the top two out of 10 men. Of course not. But tons think they're the one who will. And they waste tons of time trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:55 AM
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You can't win the lottery if you don't buy the ticket.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:47 AM
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It's not sane for women to all chase chad either, and yet 80/20.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:33 AM
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I’m not gonna shame OF models so that men can have more “good girls” to pick from. It seems like every day, I see some post about how men need to hold men accountable. Why should we? If women won't hold each other accountable, why should men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:30 AM
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All of the first 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:17 AM
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No dating app has women signing up, they're all heavily overpopulated by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:12 AM
2

Do you think most women take part in casual sex? A common claim among women on PPD is that most women don't. But just like how you can cite that 14% of men have seen an escort means most married men are banging prostitutes on the side, despite the fact that your stat includes guys who did it only once decades ago, I can say the same about women and casual sex. A much higher percentage of women have fooled around once or twice casually than are currently fooling around casually.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:16 AM
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Americans over 55 were born before 1968. You don't think things have changed since then? I mean we're talking about people who were dating age in the 70's, 80's, and 90's. What makes you think only 16.5% of Gen Z won't have kids by the time they're hitting 55?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:55 PM
1

is a joke yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:57 PM
1

Thad is too busy fucking 11/10 18yo supermodel geniuses to bother with reddit women, they're only saying Shawn because they know they can't offer enough to Thad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:38 PM
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Either there will be fewer escorts, because post-scarcity UBI would mean women wouldn't need the money. Or there will be fewer people who could afford escorts, because the AI have taken all the jobs. Probably both.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:23 PM
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I suspect women to not be so possessive by DNA compared to men Because since the evolution of sexual reproduction, females have always been able to be sure their offspring were theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:13 PM
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Unnecessary. Hospitals take DNA from the baby and the parents, compare it right then, then destroy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 06:25 AM
1

They only cost ~$80.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 12:12 AM
29

Good point. All the more reason for mandatory testing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 12:10 AM
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No reason. I'm confident I'd be able to tell if she was faithful even without it. So what's the harm in having the test be mandatory? The only answer I'm gonna get is "Yes, you're the father." But not every guy is so lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:36 PM
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The mother can know with 100% certainty the kid is hers, why shouldn't the supposed father have that same reassurance?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:23 PM
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If they're mandatory, they don't indicate any trust issues. The only person with something to fear from a mandatory paternity test is a woman who has been cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:15 PM
2

Why is the average age gap only 2.3 years in the US? Geography. Men and women are mostly around people their own age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:40 PM
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it’s funny how your logic never seems to apply to men I'd apply it to men. If a guy's avoiding child support he should be hunted down and put in a prison work detail basically. Nobody should be able to shirk their responsibilities to their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:49 AM
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Do I prefer a specific breast/ass size? Yes. Will it be a dealbreaker if a girl is far from that size? Absolutely not. Face matters much more to me. Further, it's better to be smaller than I prefer than larger. If you're really worried about it, do more squats; you can get a booty.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:53 PM
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There are services that can get your files out. HDD's work just like a record player, there's a little read/write arm over a spinning data disc. As long as the disc is mostly ok, the data is fine; what usually breaks is the read/write arm or the little motor that spins the disc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:00 PM
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Only sex adds to your body count; not first dates to coffee shops or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 09:52 PM
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Probably. Because I have no self esteem and am a total sucker for the halo effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:11 PM
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Lawyers and doctors 100 years ago all agreed that you could predict whether someone would be a criminal by the shape of their skull. Lawyers and doctors are just more disciplined, not intelligent. You don't need to be a genius to pass medical school or the bar exam, you just need to be persistent. Further, just because they're highly educated in their fields doesn't mean they are highly educated in moral philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 04:16 PM
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pro-life ones DON'T. You don't seem to get that arguments from authority don't work. I don't care who is pro-choice or what their title is, abortion is murder, not healthcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:06 AM
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Doctors and law makers who agree with you recognize it as healthcare. Pro-life doctors and law makers recognize it as murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 04:34 AM
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Me too. Got nothing to do with hating women, and everything to do with hating murderers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 04:24 AM
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If you murder a pregnant woman, you will get two murder charges. Even in pro-choice states.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 04:22 AM
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Abortion is legal right now in NY right up until birth. Literally the day before the baby is due, the mother could abort. So don't give me this whole "nobody would do that" bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:43 PM
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First of all, abortion isn't a gendered issue really; the percentages of women and men who say they are pro-life are pretty similar. Second of all, Abortion is murder. Wanting casual sex doesn't mean someone is OK with murder. I wanna be rich but I'm not gonna rob a bank. Third, it isn't clear that abortion actually would help average guys have sex. Relationships do that, and reducing the consequences of sex reduces the incentives for relationships. Women having more casual sex just have more wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:47 PM
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Here's the law. Doesn't specify any exam.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:11 PM
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I haven't actually seen the legislation, you didn't link it. Didn't even say what state.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:57 PM
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The point isn't who Chad chooses to pursue, it's how many people pursue him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:56 PM
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No, you're saying kids can decide to transition; otherwise you wouldn't be talking about "their will".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:54 PM
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Again, why not just refer to the birth certificate then?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:53 PM
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most likely going to be a sports physician at the school Why? I mean, it's not like doctors don't talk to schools; kids have to have a doc sign off that they've been vaccinated to go to public school, why not include a little M or F? Better yet, why not just go by the birth certificate?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:37 PM
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Would you really not let a pediatrician look in your kid's pants? Like it's not like the politicians are the ones doing the exam.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:28 PM
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Exploit? Sir I've been fat my entire life and the "Chads" only get chosen because of how aggressively and confidently they pursue me. You mean just like how the sex workers in Thailand aggressively and confidently pursue westerners?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:19 PM
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Why do kids even get to make such a huge decision? Kids can't consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:17 PM
2

There are boys who die from MGM too, about 100 per year in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 05:06 AM
5

Partner. Collecting green paper is pointless if you have nothing fulfilling to spend it on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:01 AM
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So I felt, and honestly still do feel like this sometimes. But I've been in therapy for a few months now, and I have noticed some benefits. First, it just feels great. I have vented online to random strangers many times before, on reddit, on 4chan, etc. But it's just so much better to vent to a real person verbally rather than in text, and to someone who remembers your past conversations rather than a different stranger every time. Second, a good therapist will ask probing questions about your p…
/r/MensRights04/04/23 10:39 PM
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Imagine for a moment, a set of scales. On one side, you have all the pros of having sex, on the other, you have the cons. How hot a guy is, how much fun she's having with him, how good she thinks he'll be in bed all weigh on the 'pros' side. On the 'cons' side are STD's, pregnancy risk, not wanting to look to slutty, worry that maybe he's a psycho. Isn't it possible for a girl have sex with one guy soon after meeting him, then later in life find religion, add "Jesus will be sad" to the 'cons' si…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:46 PM
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It's a more consistent position because bluepill isn't a specific movement with specific points. Blue pill's message boils down to "Not red pill". If you're planning a luncheon for 5 people, and three each vote for restaurants A, B, and C; the two people who vote for restaurant D are probably gonna win.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:15 PM
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The younger you are when you marry, the longer you get to spend with your family. We're only on this earth for ~80 years. If you wait for your 30's to marry, that's ~10 years with your loved ones you're missing out on. 10 years of your spouse's life, and your children's lives that you won't be there to see. Whats more, it's your 10 healthiest most energetic years. You'll have more fun being involved in your son or daughter's life if you're 35 instead of 45 when they hit 15; a lot easier to take …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 10:27 PM
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Do you prefer women who dress modestly? Yes. Not a fan of the skin-tight yoga pants look. What clothing item do you find particularly appealing Skirts and dresses mostly. I don't care about shoes or accessories.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 06:45 PM
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I think it actually takes a ton of mental strength to recognize Prince Charming, when you've been stuck in a shitty situation for so long. The feminist perspective on the damsel in distress concept misses this. There's a "Prefer the devil you know over the devil you don't" aspect to despair. Your situation could be abject horror, but it's easy to get stuck rationalizing "Oh it's not that bad. Or at least the bad parts are predictable. Who knows what this guy in the shiny armor on the white horse…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 06:34 AM
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Those industries are male dominated because men won’t allow women to work in them. Not because women can’t do the work. Who is preventing women from being garbage collectors? You will still have to work to support yourselves. Guys can live a lot cheaper if dating isn't a possibility. Paraphrasing Dave Chappelle here, "Guys would live in a cardboard box if it wouldn't hurt their dating prospects." If dating isn't possible, and my tastes are cheap, why work hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 06:14 AM
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Another ~30% was at bars though. So something like 70% of people are meeting and dating strangers; not dating within their social circle. And how many of those 30% meeting at bars actually did meet there, and didn't just match online and have their first date at a bar?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 12:38 AM
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don’t want any children of their own Zero to me. I want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 11:49 PM
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The chaddest guys don't need the best social skills, women make it easy. They do the approach, their signals aren't subtle hints they're more like neon signs when it comes to chad.
/r/AllPillDebate30/03/23 11:29 PM
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holy fuck dude
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 09:58 PM
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When asked what they find attractive, women imagine a hot guy and then describe how they'd want him to behave. Men do the same thing, but in reverse; they imagine a kind, bubbly, fun girl, then describe what they want her to look like. Nobody answers the question holistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:44 PM
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There are a few I don't find attractive, but their weight isn't what I find unattractive. I would prefer thinner, but this level of chubbiness is no issue really.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:53 PM
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If she cleans up and seriously does have 10/10 looks, she'll do fine. Pretty girls really can have their cake and eat it too. With sprinkles even.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:20 AM
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You do realise how difficult it is these days to have a single income household? So sick of this urban perspective being bandied about like a universal truth. There are low cost of living places still, even in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:47 PM
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Why would you hate anyone? You've had some success. You're not person number 2.
/r/AllPillDebate29/03/23 05:58 AM
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You really have never seen those "Guys really live like this" memes? Where they show a guy's apartment and it's just a single chair, a mattress on the floor, and a TV, and nothing else? Maybe not even the chair?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:57 AM
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No, but looking back at your ancestors and saying "They all did it, you will too" misses those ancestors' brothers and sisters who actually didn't succeed. Yeah, your dad, grandpa, and great-grandpa definitely reproduced, but did your uncle? Or your great uncle? Your existence doesn't prove they reproduced. And while people haven't drastically evolved genetically, that doesn't mean the culture hasn't changed drastically. Romantic milestones are happening later and later for current generations, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 10:21 PM
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but all kinds of non-naturals were eventually able to reproduce throughout history. Textbook survivorship bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 09:34 PM
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check out r/SexWorkers for some good reading. It's an interesting world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:58 PM
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Men mostly don't care about material wealth. I would be totally content to be a hobo, so long as I had a cute hobo gf too. It's like Dave Chappelle said, men would live in a cardboard box if it didn't hurt their dating prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:44 PM
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There's dozens of studies that show the general gist of the 80/20 rule, like the recent one from Pew showing that the highest percentile men had more sexual partners than the bottom 50% combined. Or that STD rates are increasing, but only for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:52 AM
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I am so fucking sick of people bringing this up. It comes from ONE study, that didn't even say that. It said that a wife's illness correlated more with divorce than a husband's. It didn't say who was ending the relationship. Maybe the wife is. Maybe she's thinking "Damn, this bucket list is kinda long and this marriage is in the way, better bail." Maybe she's being selfless, thinking something like "Babe, you have your whole life ahead of you, move on without me." Maybe the stress of the illness…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:21 AM
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This is true of all humans, in all kinds of interactions. Life is transactional. Love can be transactional too, there's nothing wrong with that. I used to buy into the whole "I want them to love me for who I am" bit too, but when you think about it, it really doesn't make sense. I don't mean it's untenable pragmatically, though it's not, I mean it isn't internally consistent. I am just the sum of my parts. There's no holistic "me" for her to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:15 AM
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You haven't used ChatGPT much yet, have you? Do you understand how we think? What our consciousnesses are? No. So just because ChatGPT doesn't work the way our brains is not proof it's not thinking. Birds flap their wings to fly. Planes can't flap their wings. Does that mean planes can't fly? Oh, as an aside, ChatGPT4 can already do image recognition and speech recognition.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:09 AM
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Do I have thoughts? Or am I just faking it for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:29 AM
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You drastically underestimate AI. ChatGPT3 is already pretty convincingly human, and 4 is even better. 4 can already understand and answer questions about images; and even return images as part of its answer. I read a paper about a pre-public access version of 4 that learned to use google; it understood when its training data was insufficient and went looking for more up-to-date info.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:27 AM
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Not everyone rates on a curve. I don't. 5 isn't necessarily average, it's "I think they look meh. Not great, not terrible." If I'm surrounded by 1's, that doesn't make a 2 attractive. If I'm surrounded by 9's, that doesn't make an 8 ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:08 AM
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The men are held to higher standards. Hardly any women can pass them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:12 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:59 AM
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Because by and large they suck at it. Hardly any can pass the same fitness standards as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:56 AM
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Which is it? Do women have misogyny-detecting radar or not? If they do, how do they end up dating abusive dirtbags? Do they choose it willingly? If they don't, how do you expect them to detect every bitter RP'er they interact with? These are mutually exclusive positions, you can't have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:54 AM
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You can ask the dark triad-loving women the same question. Misogyny is orthogonal to dating success.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:50 AM
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Baldwin the 4th, of Jerusalem was crippled and blind by leprosy by like ~15, and was still a highly-successful king. If he can successfully lead a crusader state surrounded by Islamic enemies while blind and losing the use of all of his limbs at 16-17, I think an 18yo can decide who they want to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 07:18 PM
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It's even worse; showing up to open mic night with a flute might interest some weird folk music artsy girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:27 AM
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#3. She thought of something funny and happened to be looking in my direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 09:18 PM
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It's not enough for Chad to take all the women, now he wants our oil too?!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 09:15 PM
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Ideally I'd hope both betrothed would seek the approval of all four parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:22 PM
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I don't necessarily mean you specifically, more the general 'you'. It seems plausible that not all families are as resilient as yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 07:16 PM
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What if? I mean, if the bf really loves you, he wouldn't want to hurt you by breaking up your family. I don't think it's so clear-cut that gaining a loving husband will always outweigh losing a loving family.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 07:06 PM
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What if the bf is worried the woman's family doesn't like him? Not that he thinks her dad owns her, but that he doesn't want to put strain on their father-daughter relationship? Follow-up, why wouldn't you want your dad's opinion? I'm not saying you have to agree, but this is a huge decision and more perspectives can't hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 07:00 PM
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Instead of getting butthurt about it, just say Cardi B's a piece of shit too. Unless you don't actually think she is...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 05:11 PM
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I don't really like math, but I'm really good at it. Seems like the same kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 05:08 PM
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When you were 18, did you feel the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:54 PM
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Murder isn't humane.
/r/AllPillDebate24/03/23 06:12 AM
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A fat, married 50 something woman can do that too. She can even bang chubby chasers for free off tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:53 AM
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I don't get why random dickpics are a threat exactly though either. Unless you know the guy in person, who cares? Like I've gotten more death threats than I can count; I frequently use 4chan after all, but it's plainly obvious that there's no real risk there. Some idiot on 4chan can't possibly come kill me. Likewise, some idiot who DM's a dickpic to your reddit is no real threat either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:51 PM
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I don't want women to send me nudes. I don't see it as a positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:41 PM
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Even if they stay in overseas, she's much better off financially with him than without. How is this exploiting her?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 07:04 PM
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This cult lacks character, it tells to leverage your wealth even if it's exploitive to a woman's financial state to get what you want hence the passport bros and the like. Maybe the passport bro is the one being exploited, did you ever think of that? She gains access to his wealth, probably dozens or hundreds of times as much as she could hope to make at an average job in her community, all for the low price of some sex and doing some chores. What's stopping her from just working in a shit job l…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:18 PM
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There isn't just one kind of confidence though. It's not like just because you're good at one thing you'll be good at everything. I assume you're confident and comfortable behind the wheel of a car; how about at the controls of a 747?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 05:06 PM
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Ah yes, only the priestly class can pass gospel down to laypeople like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:35 PM
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There's a clip recently with Matt Walsh, some RP guy I don't know, and 4 women. The RP guy makes a rational argument for why he doesn't want to get married, and the women completely ignore his reasonable fears about marriage. They immediately jump to "You're insecure" or "You just have XYZ mental illness". Completely dismissing his perspective. And then they wonder why young men don't listen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:31 PM
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So I'm reading Gulag Archipelago, and there's a strange section near the beginning. Solzhenitsyn is describing his own arrest, and his captors picked up 3 other condemned along the way; tank crewmen. They ask him what he's in for, and he dodges the question basically, then asks them the same thing. Their answer is the part that struck me. They explained that they were being arrested for chasing after some local girls. Solzhenitsyn then explains that, had the girls been Germans, the tankers could…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:14 PM
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I actually kinda see it. Acting allows them to compartmentalize. "There's nothing to be anxious about, it's not me on camera/stage, it's a character."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:49 PM
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Because the bf would probably appreciate the enthusiasm she gave those random hook-ups. Imagine if the roles were reversed; a guy takes his dates on extravagant vacations to exotic resorts, even though they basically just met. Then he marries you, and all he wants to do for date night is watch netflix and eat a TV-dinner. You're telling me you'd really feel just as valued? He pulled out all the stops for these other girls but won't lift a finger for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 06:30 PM
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Accepting promiscuity destabilizes the relationship marketplace. It removes a major incentive for relationships: Access to sex, even for people who get rare or no casual sex. They still think they can It reduces trust in the early stages of dating. A relationship-minded guy will worry his new gf is settling for him and will cheat, and that she had a long hoe phase she enjoyed. A relationship-minded girl will worry she's just gonna get P&D'd or plate spun. These fears make both people have more t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 04:23 PM
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You're right that one big reason for young men to fail so much at romance is indeed older guys picking up younger women. But there aren't enough content creators doing this so I don't really think it's fair to blame them. Yeah, a lot of them are grifters, but for money not pussy. Most of the older guys picking up younger women aren't in the pillosphere at all; this is still a fairly niche topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 05:47 AM
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I am against steroids, when it comes to aesthetics. Not worth the side effects. That said, I don't understand why we ban performance enhancing drugs for athletes. Just let them juice. I wanna see two ogres tear each other apart in the UFC ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 08:43 PM
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Just want to clarify, blackpill is primarily the idea that looks matter most. So even many people who are quite successful romantically are blackpilled; they're physically attractive and self-aware enough to know that's their biggest selling point.
/r/MensRights21/03/23 08:29 PM
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I'd like her to have ideas for dates. I'd like her to participate in my hobbies, and to invite me to participate in hers. I don't really want gifts, excluding consumables. I love trying new kinds of junk food or hard cider; even if it's cheap, the real gift isn't just the food it's the experience of trying something new, especially if she wants to try it with me. I'd like her to share fun youtube videos or good songs, and to appreciate the ones I send to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 07:55 PM
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Strong dislike , Hate, sexist or prejudice for men Like you clearly have. Why don't you assume the men killing sex workers are mentally ill like you do the women who kill their sons and boyfriends? You assume the women aren't in their right minds and can't help it, but the men are cold, calculating killers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 10:16 PM
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I just sent you a case of a male being killed by a misandrist, and here you go, continuing to spread misandric ideas. You are contributing to anti-male violence. And yes, I do see women murdering men on the news. Here's another example. How many more do I have to find for you before you accept that you're "contributing to that perception"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 10:00 PM
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So because I don't want to date a slut, you think it's reasonable to say I condone or contribute to the murder of sex workers? That's what you wrote in your OP and it's totally insane. Posts like this contribute to anti-male violence. Posts like yours cause women to kill their sons. You, yes you personally cause cases like this. This is basically your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 09:44 PM
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Why do progressives always take criticism to some extreme place? I don't want to date a slut. That doesn't mean I want to exterminate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 09:30 PM
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There are degrees to casual sex. A new "relationship" every 3 months, like you gave as an example in your OP, seems pretty casual to me. Probably only one or fewer major holidays spent together, maybe no birthday's spent together. Probably no big life events either of you can be with the other for. Lets say I'm with a 21yo who's been dating a new guy every 3 months since 17. That's an N-count of 16; 4 guys a year for 4 years. What do you think are the odds I, #17, am gonna break that pattern?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:35 PM
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Anybody else really into the new Dreadnoughts album? I'm loving it, must've listened to it ~10 times already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69IGOSTFP0o
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:27 PM
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High N-count predicts low longevity of relationship. If she couldn't keep any of those guys around; either because she broke up with them, or because they broke up with her; my odds aren't very good either, are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:16 PM
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More scams; imagine how easily it will be to scam horny or lonely people now that bots can write indistinguishably from humans. I've already seen bots that run your tinder for you; they look at the profiles you've already swiped on to see what you like, then take over swiping for you. They also will flirt and set up dates for you, and the details of said dates get posted to your google calendar for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 03:47 AM
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I assumed the whole legal paternity system still worked the way it does; where whoever's name is on the birth certificate is responsible, barring a long court battle. If that's not the case in this hypothetical, then I agree, she doesn't need to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 10:02 PM
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If it's not automatic, the mother will take it as an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 09:40 PM
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I recommend that. But it's still not solving the information deficit. What you're suggesting is how a girl becomes a plate he spins. Because she doesn't have access to his social circle and history.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 09:11 PM
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Meeting at a bar is riskier because there is less at stake for the guy. If he P&D's her, there's minimal possible negative outcome for him. There's no friend group getting broken up by drama. She also has less information about him to use to prevent that from happening in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 08:52 PM
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66% meet online or in a bar though. 66% meet in venues where there is no access to the guy's reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 08:17 PM
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If you know how to demonstrate good reputation in that scene, you'll do well. That's fair, but it's not a holistic reputation. It's just the guy's reputation for being fun and outgoing at the bar, no his reputation for how he lives his life in general. Anybody can be fun and outgoing for the few hours they're at the bar; it's much harder to fake a good personality all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 08:08 PM
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"We met at a bar" might not even really be a cover. Could be more like "We matched online and our first in-person meet was at a bar."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 07:29 PM
3

Never said that ONLY the top are dating. I said it's getting harder for the lower strata.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 06:02 PM
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except that we know the men on the high side of the N-count bellcurve have N-counts in the dozens to low hundreds.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 05:58 PM
3

Besides 60% of young men being single, marriage rates being way down and falling, and the number of kids being raised in single parent households increasing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 05:55 PM
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The number of couples forming in general is way down though. That some people manage to make OLD work does not mean these reputation issues go away. It's too easy to lie about one's lifestyle and values; or even just be honestly mistaken. Just because you both put "Italian Food" as one of your interests doesn't mean you actually have it in common. Maybe she wants authentic italian at family-owned restaurants, and he wants Olive Garden.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 05:53 PM
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Why don't poor people just get their dad to give them a job at a hedge fund?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 01:54 AM
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I did both of those. No results.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 01:53 AM
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I'm not saying a guy can't be attracted to bigger women, I'm saying guys who actively seek that out, who indulge that preference and prefer if their SO stays overweight are immoral. I am really attracted to women who smoke. I love the little red glow she holds in front of her face, I love the way she purses her lips around the cigarette, the wispy smoke-cloud that comes out when she exhales, the smell of tobacco, the kinda raspy, huskiness it gives her voice. It's all very attractive to me. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 08:54 PM
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I didn't say fat people don't care about their partner, I said that people who don't want fat people to lose weight don't care about them. The guys who actively prefer fat girls don't care about the wellbeing of those girls; all that matters is her obesity gets his dick hard. He doesn't care about what its doing to her heart, her joints, her pancreas.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 06:29 PM
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Why the fuck do people do this? If your partner is OK with you being fat, they don't actually care about you. One of the worst things you can do, health-wise, is be fat. This isn't just a harmless preference, it is actively immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:39 PM
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but most men are in currently in relationships. ~60% of young men are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:06 AM
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Dating has to come first though. If men can't date, they can't marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:51 AM
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This is not true. It wasn't that long ago that most men married in their early 20's. https://www.infoplease.com/us/family-statistics/median-age-first-marriage-1890-2010
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:28 AM
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and still manage to get married. The average age for basically every romantic milestone is increasing. There's no reason to assume the whole "most men get married" thing will still hold true for the youth today.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:03 AM
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Women's life satisfaction has steadily fallen since the 1970's.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:14 AM
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How can society encourage men to find happiness and fulfillment outside of dating? Why would society even want to do this? Society needs people to pair up and make more people, or it ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:02 AM
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She's not an alpha widow; though unless I know Kevin I can't know this. On the other hand, the fact that her nudes even exist is a problem. Not a dealbreaker, but still definitely not a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 04:50 AM
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Men have a lower threshold than women for "good enough", but that threshold is more strictly enforced. If a woman's threshold is a 6/10, a 4/10 man who's charming and higher status than her may be acceptable. If a man's threshold is 3/10, a 2.9/10 heiress who wants to be a trad housewife probably won't be acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 07:18 PM
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Claire is the one committing paternity fraud, not Adam.
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 03:43 AM
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Yeah, it's racist, by definition. But that doesn't mean it's bad. Not all racist things are bad. Is it bad to say black people are more likely to have sickle cell anemia? Is it bad to say white people are more likely to get skin cancer?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:15 AM
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You misunderstand. It's not special because it's slow and tender, it's special because it's a huge new experience that dumps a ton of oxytocin, dopamine, and serotonin. The fewer people you have shared that with, the easier it will be to associate that rush with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:24 PM
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The fewer 'firsts' you have to share with your ultimate partner, the less special they'll be. The less special they are, the less likely the relationship is to survive. Society relies heavily on building and maintaining familial relationships. Seems morally good to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 02:49 PM
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does it not take intelligence to acquire knowledge in fields? I think persistence can make up for quite a large lack in intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:39 AM
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First of all, do you think your date is gonna show you her college transcript? For all you know she got straight C's. Second of all, at best it just shows knowledge in one field. Doesn't say anything about wisdom or general intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:32 AM
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Not really. I'm not saying I want a poor, moronic wife, but I don't think a great career and a college education are necessary for being financially solvent and intelligent. Don't rack up a bunch of debt and you don't really need a great career to live reasonably comfortably outside a city. And a college education doesn't mean you're smart; college is a giant Dunning-Kruger factory, all it does is push people up Mount Stupid and leave them at the top. The some of the biggest morons I know have c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:20 AM
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College success is a poor measure of intelligence, especially as more and more people get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:14 AM
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[The total fertility rate (TFR) of a population is the average number of children that would be born to a woman over her lifetime if: she were to experience the exact current age-specific fertility rates (ASFRs) through her lifetime she were to live from birth until the end of her reproductive life.[1]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_fertility_rate)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:17 AM
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Consumerism absolutely impacts fertility rates. Higher income correlates strongly with lower fertility, both within one country and across countries. Wealthier people prefer having more stuff and traveling over having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:56 AM
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https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1634930654118019074 I can't believe how hard women have it in the dating scene. This has opened my eyes, I'm totally bluepilled now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:39 PM
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Some of them are my friends, so I have some idea of their lives I'd say.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:14 AM
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I live in a rural place in the USA and know people raising families, even owning homes on less income.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:44 AM
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Low cost of living places exist, even in the US, where $59k is more than enough to raise a family on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:17 AM
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More about you I see. You aren't considering his perspective at all.
/r/MensRights12/03/23 12:56 AM
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You know kids can remember being 3, right? Like the first years of your life are super important for bonding. And not only that, but he now knows you're essentially a thief. He knows you'd do anything for money, including ruin an innocent person's life. And it gets even worse, because you clearly aren't sorry you did it. You're just sorry you're facing the consequences. You'd better have your retirement all figured out, cause your son's gonna put you in the shittiest nursing home if its up to hi…
/r/MensRights12/03/23 12:44 AM
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Really? How do you know he doesn't love the guy he was raised to think was his father?
/r/MensRights12/03/23 12:29 AM
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I'm hearing nothing but "me me me".
/r/MensRights12/03/23 12:25 AM
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Why is this so hard to get through your skull? Your son loves your ex, and you hurt him, so in essence you hurt your son too. There's nothing you can do to make him forget this.
/r/MensRights12/03/23 12:22 AM
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I have a question for you. So? What makes reading or whatever a better use of his time?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 05:57 AM
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I'm not doing this, but I don't see how hobbies are more meaningful than this. If anything, it seems spinning plates IS his hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 05:23 AM
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Can you explain to me what other goal he should have, and why please?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:29 AM
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I'm severely physically disabled as well. I don't want to speak for this guy, I'm not a mind reader after all, but I could see myself doing something like this. I just want to feel normal for once; doing something nice for a stranger is a good way to do that. Fuck all the commenters calling him a "real man" or whatever though. The last thing I want is extra praise just because I'm disabled.
/r/MensRights11/03/23 01:46 AM
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You don’t have to punish unwanted children by subjecting them to a life of neglect for your mistakes. Why does this logic not extend to orphans?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 01:34 AM
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I liked her. She was fun.
/r/AllPillDebate11/03/23 01:21 AM
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bmwf is one of the less common interracial pairings among average people. It's common on TV because the media is enamored with idpol garbage. If you're talking about porn; it's almost entirely men consuming it, so this isn't a sign of any smv advantage for black men.
/r/AllPillDebate10/03/23 10:16 AM
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Norah Vincent went undercover as a man for a year. And she really tried; she was a convincing, albeit kinda wimpy guy. She tried online dating, back in 04 iirc when it was really new. She got a few first dates but no second dates. Then she started admitting she was actually a woman during failing dates, and started getting second dates. She had better luck dating as a lesbian who lied about her gender to "straight" women, than she did as a transman. I dunno whether thats a 'yes' or a 'no' to you…
/r/AllPillDebate10/03/23 09:52 AM
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Not exactly, but I think I get it. I'm severely physically disabled; and due to my disability it's very hard for me to take a shower. I hadn't done it in easily +10 years before last summer; bathing instead via sponge baths. Last summer, I found a new shower chair that actually works for me, and feeling the spray directly on me kinda freaked me out. It was just such a new sensation to me after going so long without it. I totally get how touch could be the same way.
/r/AllPillDebate10/03/23 04:43 AM
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Was the US a patriarchy in 1950?
/r/AllPillDebate09/03/23 05:41 PM
1

and also whether they have any good-looking friends who might suit you better Quit reading at this part.
/r/AllPillDebate08/03/23 09:10 PM
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This doesn't disagree with what I said. Infant mortality dragged the average life expectancy way down. It's not like a lot of people were out there dying at 28.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 05:20 PM
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Only because so many people died before 1. If you made it to ~5, you were likely to live about as long as today.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 04:57 PM
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Nobody "told" me any of that shit. I still want a wife. It is a normal, human desire to want these things. It's a normal human desire to want a spouse, to want kids, to want a family. No amount of social pressure is going to undo that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 04:54 PM
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I get that, my point is to deny the idea that guys wouldn't want to play with their girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 04:29 PM
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I will never get over the fact that they're named The Young Turks, the paramilitary organization that committed the Armenian genocide, and that Cenk denied the Armenian genocide, and that Ana Kasparian is Armenian. Like imagine a Jewish person working for a holocaust denier at a news org named The SS.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 05:57 AM
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It's bad for women though, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 05:54 AM
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Guys like anything not fat. Some guys even like fat as well. But we do still have preferences, it's just not a dealbreaker if you don't match them. I like blondes with bangs and braided hair. More of a boob guy than an ass guy, but I like both.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 05:14 AM
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that they would enjoy playing multiplayer with their kids or with their partner if they suck at it. Then why is "gamer girl" such a big thing guys seek out?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 11:46 PM
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As long as with any other hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 11:42 PM
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Wouldn't this be true of any hobby?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 11:37 PM
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What if it's all he does in his time, but if he'll drop it for you? i.e. its his only personal hobby, but if you wanna spend time with him he will?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 11:22 PM
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It doesn't work for suicidal ideation in men. The startling statistic from the research showed that of those men who had taken their own lives and had actually sought help and were assessed for suicidal risk in 2017, 80% had been assessed by clinicians as having low or no risk of suicide; this is troubling and an issue that must be addressed. These men are talking but who was listening? Therapy failed 80% of suicidal men who did seek therapy. I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact tha…
/r/MensRights07/03/23 09:11 PM
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Sometimes I wonder, are people here just that fucking poor, or do they just have unrealistically high standards of living. This isn't just about the price of that single date. How many more dates are you going to have to pick up the whole check? Is this just a foodie call? She doesn't actually give a shit about you, just wants a free meal? Is this a precursor to how the whole relationship will be; is she going to use you for your money the entire relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 06:46 PM
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It's meant in the Pavlovian sense. As in sex is a rewarding experience, so guys will mold their behavior to get more of it. Nobody said it was a trophy or w/e.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 05:36 PM
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You know this sub isn't one person right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 05:32 PM
3

Hispanics are Spanish crossed with Mayans and Aztecs. They're European. The US census has two separate categories of white. There's "White", and "Non-Hispanic White". You know the word Hispanic refers to Spain, right?
/r/AllPillDebate07/03/23 07:05 AM
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Depending on who you ask, they're white too. The US census thinks hispanic is a sub-category of white; kinda like Nordic for example.
/r/AllPillDebate07/03/23 06:45 AM
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White and black are by far the most common ethnicities in the US. If there were more than Native Americans, we'd have a version of Chad for them too.
/r/AllPillDebate07/03/23 06:37 AM
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If you associate it with gangs, that's YOU being racist. I just see a name.
/r/AllPillDebate07/03/23 05:34 AM
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Why is the name "Tyrone" crude? It's just a stereotypically black name. There's no negative connotations. There are also Chang the asian chad, Chadpreet the Indian chad. I know there's a hispanic version, I just can't remember it at the moment.
/r/AllPillDebate07/03/23 05:02 AM
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In NYC, it is illegal for a bartender to refuse to serve a pregnant woman alcohol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 11:23 PM
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If a woman lets you cum in her, she is taking responsibility for the pregnancy. It's her body, her choice, right? OR How about BOTH people are responsible because they BOTH chose to fuck raw to completion?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:23 AM
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Every old, single woman means there's an old man ending up single too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 05:15 PM
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I agree that a bad relationship can just make you feel worse, but I've also read some success stories from r/ForeverAlone, where the OP explains how he was sad and alone, until he finally got a girlfriend and it turned his life around completely. I also agree that being miserable during a relationship is likely to ruin it and lead to a break-up, but if you're complaining about not getting any dates at all, you have more immediate problems to work on. Worry about keeping the relationship once you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 10:38 PM
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I only bring it up, because I often see "You need a positive attitude" claim being used to dismiss guys who complain online about dating. First of all, it just isn't true. You can be miserable and still get women. The fact that someone is venting on reddit doesn't mean he's a weepy mess in public. His prospective dates aren't mind readers. It's really not that hard to seem not-depressed for the few hours a date lasts. Second, it's a thought-terminating cliche. It's a way to dismiss the concerns …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 09:49 PM
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My point is that his horrible internal attitude didn't prevent his wild success. People aren't mind readers, unless you're obviously miserable and venting all the time, people will assume you're ok or even thriving.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 09:17 PM
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Sure worked out for Robin Williams huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 08:48 PM
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There is no good solution for men due to the Duluth Model. Even leaving isn't really a good solution, because if it comes to fighting in court, the courts will prefer to uphold status quo; if you've fled to a motel room or a friend's couch, you no longer live at the contested residence. So status quo is you continuing to not live there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 08:46 PM
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The biggest morons I know all have degrees. College is a giant dunning kruger factory; all it does is push stupid people up Mount Stupid and leave them at the peak.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 07:19 AM
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Why do women list a bunch of personality traits when men ask them what they find attractive? Because they assume the guy is already physically attractive, then imagine how they'd want him to act.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 07:14 AM
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Society doesn't hate tall women. There are no tall woman jokes, whereas short guys do get mocked for being short. Tall women just have less dating options, short men are actively derided for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 08:49 PM
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Most people are married by 40. Most people who are late bloomers still have sex by 25. Most men have more than six sexual partners in a lifetime (US), so your '20 years of frustration' affects a tiny sliver of the population. Most people over 40 didn't grow up with social media and OLD getting in the way. You don't get to say "It worked out for your dad and grandpa, it'll work out for you too" when society has drastically changed since then. If someone doesn't consent they don't consent. What ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 08:46 PM
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Tony Timpa was a schizophrenic man living in Texas. He was off his meds and doing bad. In a brief moment of lucidity, he called the police on himself. By the time they arrived at that parking lot, a security guard at the store he was in front of had already cuffed him and had him sitting calmly. Police pushed him to the ground and knelt on his neck and chest till he died. About twice as long as happened to George Floyd in fact. The police even sedated Tony, and joked about it when they noticed h…
/r/MensRights02/03/23 08:42 PM
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I don’t see tall woman bitching and moaning Then you haven't been paying attention. They definitely do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 08:21 PM
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Oh so I guess caving and hiring a prostitute once when you're 40 makes up for the 20 years of frustration?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 08:10 PM
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What other, less deadly ways are there? Tasers? They suck. If both little darts don't penetrate the skin and stay in, they do nothing. If they get tangled in clothing, if one misses, or if one falls out, there's no zap at all. Here's a video of police trying to taze a naked guy. Took 9 tries before the 10th finally worked. I agree that shooting someone isn't always the answer. But it is the answer when they pose a serious, immediate threat to your life.
/r/MensRights02/03/23 05:17 PM
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The old man in construction was probably a young man in construction in the past. His experience actually doing the work in his youth will make him a better manager or foreman once he's too old to do it himself. The old woman probably wasn't in construction when she was young.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 04:59 PM
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Yes. How aren't they the answer?
/r/MensRights02/03/23 04:54 PM
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I think you are 57% of those who were single men were single by choice, not being "excluded" at all. So that leaves ~20% of men in that age range are single and not by choice. That's huge. We're talking tens of millions of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 04:48 PM
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First of all, prostitution is illegal. Second, I didn't say I was.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 04:46 PM
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How is that not good advice? If she's more able to protect herself, she'll be less wary of men. Even if she wasn't wary of men, I would recommend she buy a gun. Even if she were a he, I would recommend OP buy a gun. There is no reason for anyone to willingly be an easy victim by being unarmed.
/r/MensRights02/03/23 04:42 PM
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Being excluded from a major part of what it means to be human seems pretty harmful to me *shrugs*
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:53 AM
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Anyways, what can I and other women do better? If you're in the US, buy and carry a gun. God said we're all equal, but Samuel Colt made it so. You'll be a lot less afraid of assault if you can do something about it no matter how big the guy is.
/r/MensRights01/03/23 05:18 PM
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Uh, weddings are fun dude. I guess if you're marrying a vile harpy just to get some sex it seems like a big waste, but if you actually love her and she loves you, it's a giant party to celebrate just how in love you two are. I don't get this idea that it's all for the woman. Yeah, maybe a lot of women want to blow a lot more money than is reasonable, and put way too much stock in it going perfectly, but this idea that the groom doesn't enjoy it too is nonsense. Like, have you ever been to a wedd…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 07:09 AM
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She can want whatever she wants. She just shouldn't expect to get it. I want 90's era Linda Fiorentino. Not gonna happen, but it's still what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:16 AM
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30yo's can afford better dates. If she's in a better mood, like because she's having fun on your boat, you will look hotter. It's like a less-effective kind of beer goggles. There's a limit of course; a 1 isn't gonna become a 10 just because he can get her into the more expensive clubs, but it might make a 6 an 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 01:32 AM
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Not really. Wikipedia says he's still getting big modeling work, but I don't know enough about that industry to judge how big.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 09:59 PM
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Criminal whose mugshot went viral because he's hot, and as soon as he got out he got a high-paying modeling job.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 09:56 PM
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Yes, it does. The researchers assumed that Spouse Absent meant Separated, not "Spouse not in room", and so counted them as single. So anyone who said yes to "Spouse Absent?" was being counted in the wrong group. You don't think that can change the outcome of the study?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 05:35 PM
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It effects single people in that, a lot of the happy people being counted as single weren't actually single.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 05:21 PM
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It's the central variable of the study, so yeah. If "spouse absent" is being read as "spouse separated", they're counting lots of married, happy people as "single".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 04:49 PM
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Exactly. Maybe she didn't know till that whole fiasco.
/r/AllPillDebate28/02/23 06:10 AM
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Tom Brady is basically a homunculus, all he has going on in his head is football. It's no wonder Gisele left him. Kanye is clearly coocoo for cocopuffs, again no wonder he's divorced; not defending Kim either btw. Bill Gates took multiple trips to pedo island, and I bet Melinda knows exactly what he did there. Again, no wonder why she left him. Like these are not great examples for proving monogamy doesn't work. They're just examples that pedos and sociopaths are bad partners.
/r/AllPillDebate27/02/23 07:22 PM
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Depends how often I see you. Couple times a year, sure. Once a month, pushing it. More than twice a month, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 01:36 AM
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Not a problem. Hell, with how many people don't know their dads, or who's mother cheated, there's probably a lot of people dating/marrying their half-siblings who don't even realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 01:26 AM
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Not really, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 09:37 PM
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I keep seeing threads on askmen asking about how often guys get compliments, and I'm always confused. Do people actually -like- compliments? I kinda hate getting them. I always just awkwardly blurt out 'thanks'. They don't make me feel good or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 09:10 PM
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I think Jon Stewart summed up my opinion on it pretty well. Oh, my God, there’s a novel respiratory coronavirus overtaking Wuhan, China. What do we do?’ ‘Oh, you know who we could ask? The Wuhan novel respiratory coronavirus lab. What an amazing coincidence!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 09:08 PM
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Don't want either, I kinda hate compliments.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 07:37 PM
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Gabriel Fernandez How the fuck do you blame pro-lifers for this? In one sentence you say pro-life people don't become social workers, in the next, you cite this kid that social workers let die. Seems like pro-choice people don't care about kids to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 12:11 AM
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It's not even just about the taxpayers, it's that these institutions will be less effective. And it's not just old people using them. Lets say you're still young and healthy, but you get in a bad car wreck. Your healthcare will be worse, so your recovery will take longer, and it probably will be less complete. Maybe you'll have to be off work for a year. Time for assisted suicide?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:21 PM
1

That seems less bad than the collapse of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:16 PM
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Yeah I'm sure the boomers will vote for that. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 07:49 AM
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A huge percentage of that are retired; they're old people. The same proportion of the population that the declining birth rates is causing to increase. This is exactly the problem I'm talking about; I think it's funny you think this is some "gotcha" citation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 07:43 AM
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Plenty of unwanted children do. Do you think every working adult today had a good childhood?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 07:31 AM
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You're missing the point. As the pursued party, she knows all the guys pursuing her are at least mildly interested. Pursuers have to invest effort without even knowing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 07:29 AM
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Who do you think will be paying for that welfare in the future? Like we've got a lot of needy people now right? What happens when there's more of them, AND fewer people of working age to pay for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 07:22 AM
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That 63% vs 34% stat is for young people. Age gap relationships tend to be younger woman, older guy, so some women with boyfriends fall in that range, but their boyfriends don't. Some playboy guys consider themselves single, but really have several girls on speed-dial for booty calls. The girls might not count that as being single. In the young age group, there are more men than women; the genders don't balance out till ~60 iirc, after which there are more women. So on average, the numbers balan…
/r/MensRights24/02/23 07:16 AM
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I can't promise lots of guys were actually definitely interested, but I'm just saying it's easier being the one who gets pursued than to do the pursuing. You get to pick from a narrow pool, and you know that since they're pursuing, they're at least mildly interested. Guys have the burden of choice before they pursue, so they can't be sure there's even a chance it'll go anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 06:39 AM
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I don't doubt that not every woman has a million guys after her. But I'm just saying that as the selecting party, they know the guys they do get to choose from are interested. Guys have the same problem of needing to choose well, but they have to invest themselves in the pursuit to even see if she is interested too. We gotta pay up front, and there's no refunds basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 06:24 AM
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The one I want to bring up is that, in dating, women get their pick of the litter. They have all the options they could ever want with minimal investment. They'll say "But that makes it harder to find a guy we really like." That's fair. But the thing is, guys have the same problem of too many choices too; they just don't get to know if she's interested until after they've invested their time, energy, and probably money in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 06:14 AM
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It's a bad thing for anyone who doesn't want to see people suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 05:53 AM
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OP said the population crisis was fake. I was explaining how that is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 05:46 AM
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The only issue is, when it all comes down, it's not going to just be poverty. There will be violence, a lot. People will fight over the scraps, and there will be no authority to step in and stop it. Just like the Balkans. It's going to be horrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 05:14 AM
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It's gonna be bad for the people who still exist, for the reasons I explained in #2.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 03:04 AM
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Clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:40 AM
5

You can get condoms at any gas station in the US and everyone knows what they're for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 01:40 AM
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I don't have a good solution. All I'm saying in this thread is that the population crisis is real, and the commonly-proposed solutions don't actually make sense when you think about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 12:18 AM
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You know what will make women have more children? Make it desirable! Actually care about mothers, don’t make single motherhood shameful, support women, support the children, healthcare, childcare. These things don't actually work though. The developed world has all this stuff to varying degrees, but Africa's fertility rates are still much higher despite doing none of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 12:10 AM
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Immigration isn't a solution. It just kicks the can. Fertility rates in their home countries are falling too. And immigrants quickly adopt the fertility rate of their new country.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 12:00 AM
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Even within a single developed country, poor people have the highest fertility rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:50 PM
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It's not just papaws ass. It's yours eventually too, you will get old as well. And even young people get sick and injured and have to use healthcare. And it's not just healthcare either, it's literally every institution. Our roads, our electricity and municipal water systems, mass transit, all of it. Society depends on workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:48 PM
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The thing about this kind of danger is, just like climate change, by the time you feel the symptoms it's way too late to do anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:46 PM
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Once again, it's not the total number that matters. It's the average age of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:42 PM
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Nigeria has no support for anyone, but has a way better fertility rate than that. Wealth is negatively correlated with fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:32 PM
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True. The real problem seems to be wealth. People with a lot of stuff seem to prefer their stuff over having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:04 PM
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But my point is that it's hitting the whole world, the developing world just hasn't gotten as deep into it yet. They're on the same track as the developed world, just a little further behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 10:53 PM
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Even globally, fertility rates are falling everywhere. They're still above 2.1 in the developing world, but they're lower than they were 100 years ago basically everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 10:48 PM
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You don't understand the population crisis. If fertility rate is below ~2.1, the population will decrease. Think about it; every person has two parents. So if each couple doesn't have at least two kids, the next generation will be smaller. It's just simple math. In most of the developed world, the fertility rate is well below 2.1. But the more immediate issue isn't the net size of the population, but the average age of the population. If fewer people have kids, the proportion of the population t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 10:46 PM
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Women aren't on the apps because they don't need to be. They can much more easily get dates/relationships from their normal life, because women are in high demand. Imagine two alcoholic beverage producers. One makes mongolian-style fermented horse milk, the other just makes normal beer. The normal beer company has tons of demand, so there's no need to seek out being sold in some specialty liquor store; Wal-mart works fine. But hardly anybody wants mongolian horse milk, so that company has to try…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 10:28 PM
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Hairy women can do something about it. Short guys are SOL.
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 06:32 PM
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Men transitioning aren't buying male-marketed aesthetic products, they're buying women's stuff. Because they're trying to look like attractive women. height can't be changed, but we could easily say there are plenty of women who don't care about height just like there are plenty of men who don't care about body hair. You're missing the point. The point isn't what proportion of each gender cares about what trait, it's that the traits men find attractive are things women can work on, whereas the t…
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 06:02 PM
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Actual, physical abuse. Cheating. Severe emotional abuse, not just snide comments here and there but consistent cruelty. Stupidity with money; like running up a ton of debt. I get wanting me to support her financially, but I don't want to also support her creditors.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 05:12 PM
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That doesn't sound like a horrible relationship to me. Could be better obviously, but better than being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:59 PM
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There is no moral component to height. There is a moral component to weight and single motherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:35 PM
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It will take her just a few minutes to shave (though plenty of guys don't care about body hair anyways). There's nothing a guy can do to be taller. The point is, of course there is a bigger industry for female aesthetics; female aesthetics can be changed. There's minimal male aesthetic products because there isn't anything that can be done for them most of the time. Unless you want to count protein powder and finesteride.
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 04:30 PM
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just don't be overweight and like 95% of the work is done for you. Guys don't need women to be 10/10 to find them attractive.
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 07:18 AM
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The things that make men attractive are mostly immutable. Height, jaw shape, shoulder width, etc.
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 06:55 AM
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I don't think there's anything stopping it from inverting at some point, and the dynamic completely flipping. What could possibly flip it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 01:03 AM
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How can it be nothing? You're telling me literally not one 23yo dates anyone older than 25? I didn't say it was the entire source of the discrepency, just that it explains some of it.
/r/MensRights22/02/23 04:27 AM
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We do not decide how masculine we are; this whole self-validation thing Bluepillers push fundamentally misunderstands how these values work. Imagine I convince myself I'm super charming and charismatic. But whenever I go to a social event, nobody listens to anything I have to say, all my jokes just get gormless stares. Am I really, actually charming and charismatic? I mean my self-validation says I am? If I actually care about results, my internal conception is irrelevant. If I want people to li…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 11:32 PM
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Men have no control over their height. Women do have some control over whether they become single mothers, and they have total control over their weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 10:46 PM
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When people ask "Can I sue so-and-so", it's implicitly understood that what they're really asking is "Can I sue and have a decent chance of winning". But that's besides the point; the point is we don't act like drunk people have no agency in any other situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 09:01 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human\_sex\_ratio
/r/MensRights21/02/23 07:49 PM
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Even when they restrict it to 18-29 it didn’t make any diff Because there are more 28yo women dating 30yo men than 28yo men dating 30yo women. The age gap doesn't have to be huge to make a difference. More men than women doesn’t mean men aren’t struggling more because the gap in men vs women in gender ratio is smaller than the gap in who is having sex I didn't say they weren't struggling more. My points are reasons for the discrepancy; it's not just one of them, it's a combination of all of them…
/r/MensRights21/02/23 07:44 PM
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Lets say I get drunk and buy $5000 worth of stupid shit, at a store that doesn't accept returns. Can I sue them for theft or scamming me? I mean, I regretted it once I sobered up. I couldn't consent to that transaction, I was too drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 06:22 PM
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The way I understood it was she targeted him specifically because he is fat and schlubby, thinking he might be a good source of content for a "look at the incel and laugh" type video, and he thankfully saw through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 06:18 PM
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Three reasons: Women date older guys more than men date older women. So imagine a 23yo girl dating a 25yo guy. She'll show up in the data as a woman having sex, but he falls outside the 18-24yo range, so he won't. Some high-value men will be sleeping regularly with multiple women, while women are less likely to sleep with multiple men. There are more men than women in that age-group; in fact the genders aren't balanced until ~60yo iirc.
/r/MensRights21/02/23 05:45 PM
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"What you give is what you get." This sounds pretty transactional to me, not much like "actual love". Can you pick a stance and stick with it please?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 05:31 PM
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Selection bias. The kind of person most likely to become a king is also the kind of person most likely to be selfish and hedonistic.
/r/AllPillDebate19/02/23 07:49 PM
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Correct; Ukraine is getting much more help against a much less battle-hardened enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 07:00 AM
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The Afghan military didn't believe in their cause; in fact about half of it only existed on paper, the rest was all just fictional soldiers used for embezzling purposes, and they still held on for like 10 years thanks to Western, primarily US aid. Really can't overstate how big of an advantage state of the art weapons are when your opponent is using stuff from the 70's; like Russia is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:43 AM
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That doesn't really answer my question. How could you tell how strongly the average Ukrainian soldier believes in the cause?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:33 AM
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Do they? How could you tell? I mean, do you think the media is going to show you any Ukrainian deserters?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:25 AM
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What is the point in saving a country with no future for you when the war is over?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:16 AM
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My point is it's pathetic to call it science. The sample size is awful, and they don't detail how they determined the sample is representative; but the fact that it's so small and such a narrow and young age group tells me they just searched one campus for a handful of bored guys. The Koukounas study they cite is even worse. They had an even smaller testing sample and admit they found test subjects by posting an ad in their campus's newsletter. 23 guys jerking off 7 times each is not a study. Th…
/r/AllPillDebate19/02/23 12:26 AM
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The experiment involved the participation of 23 self-identified heterosexual men between the ages of 18 and 23 years old. Each subject provided seven ejaculate samples over the course of 15 days. This is not a real study. This is some psych student's senior project. N = 23, and all N are college-age is a dead giveaway all the sample selection procedure was is "Stand around in the quad and offer guys $50 to watch porn and jerk off into a cup".
/r/AllPillDebate18/02/23 10:57 PM
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They are now trying to hide the bias better. They caused the bias in the first place. If you manage to jailbreak it, it'll happily be sexist against men or women. All of the biased PC answers are hard-coded censorship.
/r/MensRights18/02/23 10:26 PM
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It's not evolving. It's training data set ended in 2021; all the changes you're seeing now are just the programmers hard-coding responses to questions that used to generate politically-incorrect answers. ChatGPT is not constantly learning.
/r/MensRights18/02/23 06:08 PM
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Does marrying young actually lead to more divorces, or does it just give you more time to have one? Like imagine you have an X% chance to get divorced each year. Your marriage will naturally end at 75 when you or your wife die. If you marry at 20 instead of 30, you're rolling those dice 10 more times; something like 20% more often actually. That doesn't necessarily mean X is a bigger number in a young marriage than in an older marriage.
/r/AllPillDebate18/02/23 05:19 PM
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If they think that looks matter so much, shouldn't they be doing everything possible to maximize their looks? Not necessarily. What if you're so far gone all your efforts will be a waste? Kinda seems like re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
/r/AllPillDebate18/02/23 04:57 PM
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Yeah, and some dumb women just see a guy has a girlfriend and think "Wow, he must be good to get her" without thinking more deeply about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 05:51 AM
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Some women are dumb and don't think it all the way through. But sometimes it's accurate. Honestly don't get why it's controversial. We readily accept it exists in other situations, why not this one? "John sure likes that truck, maybe I should get that model.", "Dave sure likes the new Xbox, maybe I should get one instead of the PS5." are both uncontroversial. Why's it so hard to believe some women think "Sarah really seems happy in her relationship with Mike. I bet if they split up I should try …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 01:24 AM
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especially deadbeat dads who don't have any contact with their kids and/or don't pay child support? Shitbags. Should be criminalized. But this is what happens when the norms around sex and dating break down.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 10:53 PM
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You can do that in the US too, in the primaries.
/r/MensRights14/02/23 07:32 PM
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This is why third party is bad and is not viable. Third party isn't viable in any country. Yes, you have many more parties in the UK, but they still have to form coalitions to form a government and actually get things done. In the US, we just do our coalition-forming before the election instead of after it. Think about it, libertarians and neo-cons have almost nothing in common, but they're both Republicans. Seems like a coalition to me. And socialists and business-Dems have nothing in common, b…
/r/MensRights14/02/23 04:16 PM
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If you highlight text you've typed before you click the link button, it'll make that text the link. Perfect for linking your claims to your evidence, so we don't have to guess which source goes with which statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:39 AM
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please learn how to link, don't just vomit them all at the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:30 AM
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r/askmen gets a woman asking "How do I get a guy to notice me?" or "I thought my tiny hints were obvious, does this guy just not like me?" questions at least once a week. This idea that the problem is all the guy's fault is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 05:48 PM
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Yes. Some women will keep up the act well enough for some guys to suspend disbelief. Some guys realize feeling attractive and desired just isn't gonna happen and settle for what they can get. Some guys are right on the edge of attractive and can use their wealth to keep her interest long enough for a real connection to build.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 04:36 PM
2

It's not OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 06:44 AM
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It's easier than growing 6 inches when you're 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 06:17 AM
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If you don't support Johns, you don't support sex workers, because you can't be a sex worker without customers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 04:50 AM
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Men have a lower threshold for physical attraction, is what I mean. But if she still falls below it, there's no sneaky side path to get around it like status and wealth are for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 04:45 AM
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Single fatherhood isn't looked down on because the courts are so biased against men when it comes to custody, that only the best guys can manage to win custody. Or they're widowers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 04:33 AM
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Unattractive men can make up for it somewhat with wealth and status. Unattractive women, while less common, are held back worse by it because men don't care as much about wealth and status. Oprah might be a billionaire, but I'm more into the 6/10 cashier at Aldi's.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 04:30 AM
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Volkanovski got robbed. Who the fuck scored that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 05:49 AM
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Someone else wronging you is a moral failing now? It can be if you could easily have prevented it. Lets say I just run out into the street and get run over. I didn't hurt anyone, but it's still my fault I got hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 06:35 PM
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Legally, you're right. But morally, nah. Not doing your due diligence is a moral failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 06:06 PM
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Men are less loyal than women. Men are 6 times more likely to leave a seriously ill partner than the other way around. (20.8% to 2%). I am SO fucking sick of seeing this stat thrown around. It comes from ONE study that didn't even say that. It said that relationships were more likely to end when the woman got sick rather than the man. It didn't say who was leaving who. Maybe women are thinking "Shit, my bucket list is kinda long and this marriage is in the way, better bail." Maybe women are thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 05:35 PM
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Bernie Madoff was a ponzi scheme guy in the early 2000's. Bilked tons of people out of millions of dollars. Big-name people too, politicians, celebrities, CEO's. Kevin Bacon, Steven Spielberg, John Malkovich, etc. The poster's point is if you fall for shit like "Invest with me and you'll make 30% every year", you're at least partly to blame. Likewise, if you get knocked up by the guy with the face tattoos and criminal record, you're partly to blame. Adults shouldn't be that stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 04:54 PM
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And then they kidnap and euthanize your dog, because pets are slaves or w/e.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 07:08 AM
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AITA is totally biased against men. I recall one where some woman told how she and her bf had a flat tire, and while he was changing it and she was inside the car, another car pulled up and a couple guys got out and asked if they needed help. She was freaked out because apparently she thought it was highly likely a trick or a prelude to some kind of assault, and she was upset with her bf for not dropping what he was doing to talk with them for her. She's safe inside the car, immediately assumes …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 07:04 AM
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If your life is objectively bad, it makes sense you'll be depressed. It's not that something is wrong with them mentally, it's that their life is missing something. She wouldn't be depressed if she wasn't single and lonely with minimal meaning in her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 10:19 PM
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because about 2-5 years older than them is still in 18-29 range. If she's 29 dating a guy 5 years older, she'll show up as not single in the stats, but her guy won't.
/r/AllPillDebate10/02/23 05:34 PM
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Hitler was really social actually, was quite popular interpersonally. He didn't marry, because being "Married to Germany" was part of his propaganda, but he was with Eva Braun from 1933 to the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 05:17 PM
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Because there is a lack of evidence you can say there COULD be a larger problem, but unless you have evidence it actually is a larger problem... it isn't. This is just as true of rape then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 04:09 AM
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So you don’t want people to deal with the consequences of their bad actions? I don't want bad actions. Consequences are the best way to prevent bad actions. I don't want consequences just for the sake of having consequences. Why should I sympathize with someone who caused their own suffering? Because it's human to feel bad for people who are suffering? Seems like a good reason to me. *shrugs*
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 03:12 AM
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I can guess: because they like dysfunctional women No, because they're empathetic. You know, that feeling you get where you feel bad for someone suffering? Honestly, you rag on men for treating women as objects, but here you go acting like people are totally interchangeable: I just conclude he’s a pathetic person and and find men that don’t waste time chasing after bimbos. Do you think this is a healthy way to think? Or is it better to want the best for everyone? But really, I wonder why you can…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 02:47 AM
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I said it was a small and niche problem compared to rape But you don't know that. You don't know how many accusations are false, you only know how many are proven true. A tiny percent of rape accusations result in conviction. A tiny percent of rape accusations lead to a false accusation conviction. That means there is a huge percentage of accusations that are unknown.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 03:11 AM
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Soon enough, they will be indistinguishable. I fully expect in the next couple of years, there will be AI long-distance-relationship scams.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 02:45 AM
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Do you think OF girls can compete with hotter AI girls who actually get to know and interact with the guy in VR?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 02:39 AM
2

Then you have to include women's responsibility in killings by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 02:02 AM
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Just be pro-life, and it's not true anymore. Women kill ~800,000 children per year via abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 01:22 AM
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I mean, I'm speaking from personal experience here, having sought out advice from the more-normie dating subs. I'd explain how I couldn't get a single reply or match in OLD, and the most common "advice" I got was "You're a misogynist and women can tell." Really? They ghost me because they think I'm a misogynist after a single question like "I like that hat on your 2nd pic, where did you get it?" That's insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 10:15 PM
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Women will act like the have magic misogyny-detecting radar; "You have trouble getting dates? Women can tell you're a misogynist, that's why." But then in the next breath they'll talk about how most rape victims knew their rapist, how common domestic violence is, etc. So which is it? Can women smell misogyny from a mile away like a bloodhound or not? Honestly, the whole "Women can tell you're a misogynist" thing itself seems insanely misogynist, because it implies women WANT to be abused; if the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 04:40 PM
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Lighthearted, yes. Bubbly, no, but only because that's a heavily-gendered word. Goofy, jovial, fun might be better genderless descriptors.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 09:03 PM
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Well, I have male friends who can do it; we can go from laughing and joking about stupid youtube videos, to seriously discussing Nietzche. I don't see any reason why a woman couldn't do that same kind of thing too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:05 PM
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No, they are. There's just fewer of them. Which population had more suicidal people?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:56 PM
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5k is normal?? That sounds like a ton.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:54 PM
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Lets say you have 100 men and 100 women, and 10 men and 5 women are suicidal. The 10 men all shoot themselves and die. The 5 women take pills, get rushed to the ER and have their stomachs pumped. Then they slit their wrists and sit in the bathtub. They get rushed to the ER, and get stitched up and get transfusions. Then they try the rope, and die. 10 men were suicidal, but women made 15 attempts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:46 PM
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AND are more likely to commit suicide False. Men commit suicide around 3x as often as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:42 PM
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Women are NOT more likely to attempt suicide. Women make more attempts. These are not the same thing. Women tend to pick less lethal methods, so they're more likely to survive. So the same women live to make multiple attempts and get counted 2, 3, 4 times.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:21 PM
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I'd like a bubbly, lighthearted girl. Someone capable of both silly banter and discussing serious, intellectual concepts. I'd like her to share some of my interests, but I want to have some she doesn't and visa versa; I really like the idea of one of us introducing the other to a new interest that they end up loving. I'll need her to either be apolitical, or have similar politics; I want kids, and if we're gonna be instilling values, we need to be a united front. I'm not strictly opposed to weed…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:45 PM
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I am. Only done a handful of sessions so far. It feels really good in the moment, and for a few hours afterwards, but it wears off. I haven't yet noticed real improvement, but to be fair, my life is objectively bad. So it makes sense I'd feel bad.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 03:38 AM
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Obesity Promiscuity Abusive High levels of vanity Politics opposite my own; we don't have to agree on everything, but I'm not in this for casual. I wanna have kids, and we'll need a united front when instilling values.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 05:28 PM
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I don't get why its such a big deal. Swingers exist, everyone knows it, what makes this one special? Is it because they're all cops?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 05:18 PM
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Do you think it's still possible to get girls even if you lack a good personality Yes, of course it is. Chris Brown managed it. Donald Trump managed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 05:14 PM
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The demographic crisis is that, if people have too few kids, the proportion of people in working age will decrease. More old, retired dependents, fewer young, working supporters. If you think healthcare is bad now, just wait until there's twice as many people using it and half as many staffing and paying for it. Now, you might say "But tired_hillbilly, what about immigration?" this isn't a solution. First of all, immigrants have similar fertility rates to their new country; they don't have that …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 04:53 PM
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Even if one is free to not have kids, enough people are going to want to have a family that population growth won’t be a problem. We already know this isn't true though. The whole developed world is going into a demographic crisis specifically because it isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 04:35 PM
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With your thinking, they were hinting at a threesome? No. But they were probably open to some mildly spicy comments about it. Flirting doesn't have to lead anywhere. Was this the only thing she said to you? No, and I didn't think any of the other topics were flirtation chances. We caught up, because I hadn't seen her for two weeks; I missed last week and she missed the week before. Talked about sports. Talked about candy; specifically which chocolates we like in those assorted chocolates boxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:51 PM
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How did I "went there" and "didn't act on it"? These seem like opposite things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:45 PM
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lmfao I'm not an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:41 PM
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How is that sexual? Reproduction is a sexual topic, idk how you don't see that. Is it that hard to admit that you "went there" and shouldn't have? But I didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:40 PM
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How the fuck is discussing sperm and eggs NOT sexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:32 PM
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I mean, we were talking about reproduction, seems like there had to be something there to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:31 PM
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Seems like a pretty heavy topic for small talk to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:29 PM
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Didn't know it was her job to talk about her sister's eggs. It's not like we were discussing the weather.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:24 PM
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I didn't do it, for exactly that reason. Just seems like a conversation topic like that, which she brought up, opens the door at least a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:17 PM
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idk, I'm new at this, but I feel like there must have been *something* I could've said that would have been flirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:06 PM
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How could you actually know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:03 PM
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Alright PPD, got a doosie of a situation to talk about. At physical therapy yesterday, chatting with my therapist while she stretched my hands, she brought up how her sister sold her eggs for $10k. Then we talked about how it all worked, how you have to be healthy, educated, and young for the clinic to accept you, and I brought up how it's similar for guys who want to donate. I feel like I missed a chance to flirt, I mean we were talking about sperm and eggs and I just seriously discussed it. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 04:59 PM
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She's not unattractive. I haven't watched any of Just Pearly Things content, but judging by how much you hate her I'd probably agree with her thoughts, so I pick her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 04:41 PM
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idk, I look pretty horrible and girls are fine with being friends with me. *shrugs*
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 01:21 AM
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I think she's attractive, high-6, maybe 7/10. If I knew her in person and really liked her personality I can easily see her being an 8. I wouldn't beat anyone over the head and stuff them in the trunk of a burning car for her, but yeah, she's pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 10:46 PM
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Status refers to social status. It's wealth-related, but not ONLY wealth. A hillbilly with a successful business selling hand-made fur and leather clothing online will be wealthier than some HR person in a big city, but that HR person has more status.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 04:53 AM
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Google the halo effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 03:34 AM
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Some ugly people are, sure. But it's less likely you will put up with abuse from them for nearly as long; ugly people don't get the halo effect covering for them. Do you think Johnny Depp would've put up with 1/1000th of Amber Heard's BS if she looked like Rhea Pearlman?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 02:47 AM
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If she makes the wrong decision The wrong decision is NOT picking a guy who isn't all that attractive, it's picking an abuser because she only paid attention to his looks and short-term charm.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 03:18 AM
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in order to take it slower I would have to swipe on them first. Sure, go ahead and swipe on them. Meet them even. Just don't get too deep too quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:47 PM
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All I'm saying is, women need to put every prospective partner through the Danny Devito test: "If this guy looked like Danny Devito, and said/did these things, would I find them creepy/abusive?" if yes, you're at risk of being halo-effected and duped into abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:43 PM
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Unlike deep personality-driven creatures known as men No, guys have this problem too. This thread is about women though, not men. As for the other paragraph, read their profile? Take it slow?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:40 PM
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I think a lot of women ignore obvious warning signs if he's hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 09:42 PM
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Of course you can. It's just stupid. That's a good way to end up with an abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 09:35 PM
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There's nothing wrong with being picky. But there IS something wrong with being picky about the wrong things. You want your filters to be meaningful, or else you filter out good people for no reason, and don't filter out bad people. Consider for a moment modern purebred dogs. Lots of breeds are notorious for horrible health conditions due to their breeding. Pugs and other bracycephalic dogs have awful respiratory issues, Great Danes get seizures, Dobermans have heart problems, German Shepherds h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 09:26 PM
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The real unhealthy attitude is this obsession with independence. This idea that we don't need other people, especially close relationships. It's perfectly natural to crave companionship and family.
/r/MensRights27/01/23 06:43 PM
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I don't also think it's fair to blame male celibacy on neurodivergence, lack of sexual history, self-deprecation, desperation or pessimism either, because these are all traits that women can have without it ever actually affecting their romantic options or sexual success. Neurodivergence effects men's chances at sexual success worse than women's, because men have to pursue. Women mostly just have to say 'yes'.
/r/MensRights27/01/23 06:40 PM
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I think this is a bit obtuse. Most women aren't actually interested in being chad's polygamous housewife. They don't become his housewife, they're his fuckbuddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:46 AM
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