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tom5osqb/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 02:44 PM
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tom5osqb/r/ExRedPill28/12/22 12:50 PM
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big part of blackpill is how the looks shape your personality over the time especially as a young person
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 09:52 PM
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yeah, comes from being popular and successful when they were very young
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 09:31 PM
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even if you need to avoid most women too bad if what I want is to have sex and relationships
/r/MensRights10/01/23 01:43 PM
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and fuck over the men in Columbia? or Philippines? it's a solution for you, not for men imagine the inequality a poor filipino dude must feel when a female from his socioeconomic background gets to live in America, an American lifestyle fueled by some rich american just because she was born a woman
/r/MensRights10/01/23 01:18 PM
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I think the average men are raised and socialized to accept terrible treatment from women (and authorities) and be happy with it younger men (aka redditors) can see all the inequality that is happening and are understandably unappy
/r/MensRights10/01/23 01:16 PM
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more like it just begun for transcels from the lowest of the low of our society, an incel, to the peak of the society, a young woman
/r/MensRights10/01/23 01:07 PM
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and becomes the new normal for them, the depressions gonna come crashing back except they will be able to enjoy constant sex and intimacy on tap, and all the other massive female privileges
/r/MensRights10/01/23 01:06 PM
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if being a straight male would not be such a hellish experience this would not be a thing
/r/MensRights10/01/23 01:05 PM
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there is a limit to what you can do even after doing all the improvement you can, you still are a male, and have a worse life experience than an average female
/r/MensRights10/01/23 01:00 PM
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That is what women want to avoid b-but I thought women love sex!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 08:19 AM
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second class citizens
/r/MensRights09/01/23 09:54 AM
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you're not getting it women are valued more, as a group, in our society
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:23 AM
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I can see how fit good looking guys are treated, and it's a far cry from what women get
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:45 AM
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it's a factor women can also drug men, rape them or steam from them women can have a group of guys waiting for the tinder guy, beat him and steam from him does not stop men women just don't want sex with men as much as men do with women it's literally basic human evolution and the thing I complain about
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:05 AM
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not the reason women simply don't desire men as much if they did, porn of men would be as popular as of women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:51 AM
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absolutely what power do random men have over women? man want women more than women want men - this gives women the power
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:38 AM
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most men would get unmatched or ignored for speaking like that
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:37 AM
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how can they bully women lol when men have literally 0 power over them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:33 AM
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even a fit, good looking guy does not get the amount of sexual attention an average girl does
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:30 AM
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does not matter, women are far less attracted to men either way
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:07 PM
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If the man's the only one doing that then you're not truly desired literally what did I say 95% of men will never be truly desired, and even those 5% that are, are desired far less than a woman is
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:57 PM
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You don't have to create an experience you do, men are the ones who have to flirt and escalate
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:37 PM
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yeah they can see my personality form a picture
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 06:10 PM
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I go out of my way to do things for my partner all of the time, and he does the same for me. he does far more as it's expected of a male You do realize that male escorts exist and there are women that pay for them, right not even close to how often men seek out female escorts I'm not going to argue anymore sure you are not being honest anyway
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 03:21 PM
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SOME men pay for sex, just like SOME women pay for sex you yourself have to know that this sentence is not honest why are you trying to claim that women paying for sex is a real thing? compared to men, there are no women paying for sex If you're talking about a select group of undesirable men, then say that all men pay for sex one way or another all men have to compensate with more effort, by entertaining the woman, by having status there is no such thing as a totally average dude getting used f…
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 03:03 PM
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Maybe there are less examples of women trading pictures on Reddit, because women’s sexuality is different than men’s. you are contradicting yourself one comment ago you've said they trade pictures "just as much as men" and now suddenly "their sexuality is different" Peter Steele aside, my collection of erotic and romance novels would put peoples porn collections to shame. I get off on words, rather than images. that does nothing for me the supermen, supermodels and millionares you read about is …
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 02:59 PM
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Men are sexy. Women pass around images of sexy men just as much as men do the same. why are you lying? what do you gain out of this? it's beyond clear that women do not consume male nudes like men do there are barely any subreddits for male nudes in general in reddit, while there are a few for every female thing imaginable I'm a male, my body is not ugly or anything, and yet I CANNOT find a way to get sexual attention from straight women there just isn't a way, there is no place for me to post, …
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 02:45 PM
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how little value men have in comparison to women
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 01:40 PM
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I fucking hate how I was born into the gender that is supposed to serve women that has no intrinsic value, that has to always pay women if they want something sexual I'm so fucking undesirable that I have to pay, chase, and compensate just so someone looks at my body - meanwhile my female counterpart is getting paid and there is nothing I can do about it, I have to live my life completely devoid of sexuality (unless I pay), in my ugly body that has no value, being unwanted everywhere I go while …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:40 AM
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It’s not a competition and your average man is not demonstrably living some terrible life compared to your average woman. I think he is when it comes to relationships and sex, he is so inferior it's depressing the average man has to court the woman, he has to display his social, financial and physical capability, he has to put in effort to make her feel special and to "pick her up", he has to pay for everything, he is expected to always consider her needs and wants first, his needs are always se…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:39 AM
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there isn't any conversation to be had, no-one is even interested in helping men who have problems evo psych just ties into it, women have much higher reproductive value, which is why they are the more protected & valued group some things are just biological, like men getting less empathy
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 11:23 AM
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you can simply from observing how men and women function men literally have to pay for sex they always have to compensate the woman for having sex with them, obviously that means men want women more or otherwise women would be the ones chasing after men
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 11:22 AM
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the fact that they have to chase after barely interested women speaks for itself
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 11:21 AM
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sexual value more specifically but yeah, sexual desire plays into it, if men desire women far more, and women don't desire most of the male gender at all, then women obviously are going to have higher sexual value
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 11:20 AM
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You said that it's not the case that women find men attractive, which isn't true at all. the desire women have for men is not even a fraction of what men have for women
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 01:11 AM
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I think I'm transgender, I fucking hate everything about being male, and I would be so much happier as woman but I was born into this disgusting, undesirable, unsexy male body, I am confined by the male gender role, and there is nothing I can do about it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 01:10 AM
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If you want I can send you the book, read it and then come back. how can it make me feel better? some facts are just true: men are more disposable, men have far less sexual value than women there's nothing that can disprove that, and that's what's making me miserable I hate the role the male is in the heterosexual relationship I don't wan to be a dog, I want to be the one who is the prize
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 01:02 AM
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it's seems pretty clear to me that all these issues men face are simply because their lives are worth less to both men and women - so society women have far more value to us - and from that stem many things
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 12:53 AM
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evolutionary psychology makes me suicidal because it makes me aware how inferior men are thanks to the evolution
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 12:51 AM
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I am a woman and I love all of the men in my life. I am currently dating the man that I plan to marry and I love him with all of my heart. All of the women in my life are either dating, engaged, or married to men. All I have to do is walk out my door and I'll see average women and average men in relationships with each other. what about all the incels that are not a part of your social scene? dont you think there's a bit of selection bias going on in your head?
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 12:45 AM
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Please don’t do yourself harm or think you can never be loved or wanted men are not wanted, men are the ones who "do the wanting" women are the objects of desire, they don't desire men even a fraction of how men desire women men are the ones that have to put in all the effort and create an experience for women, not women for men men are consistently inferior in interactions with women I think you’re wrong in your assertion that women have it easy overall and are valued so much more than men. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 12:34 AM
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I think the fact that women don't even use dating apps and that men are forced to do all the work in dating in relationships speaks for itself
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 12:32 AM
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I'm reminding you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 12:31 AM
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Men face longer prison sentences for the exact same crime. They are more likely to be shot to death by police, to be homeless, to be murdered, and to be suicidal. Men work longer hours even when unpaid work is considered and are more likely to die on the job than women, and even though they earn more money, women reap more in tax benefits than do men. In some countries, men are forced into gender-based conscription. Boys get lower grades for doing the same exact work as girls, and young men enro…
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 12:25 AM
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I mean you are basically admitting men are desired nowhere near as women are
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 12:22 AM
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blackpill is an evolution, people have figured out more stuff, and realized that a redpiller telling you you can have "a rotation of women" is just not true people are simply getting closer to the truth
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 12:18 AM
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healthy social interactions always this yet women can get sexual attention without it
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 12:15 AM
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their beliefs stem from somewhere one common thing women here say is "how much they find men attractive" but that's not the case, when there is so many ways men are not the object of desire
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 12:14 AM
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everything I say is met with a defeatist attitude well my attitude seems defeatist because the position men are in (especially when it comes to interactions and relationships between the genders) seems to be pretty bad some kind of rant about how it can’t possibly be true I have to accept everything you say as gospel? as absolute truth? am I not allowed to question it? especially when it goes against my entire life experience (and also stats on dating?) and simply basic facts from real life? men…
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 12:10 AM
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I just know enough about evidence and critical thinking to know you and that post you linked are wrong. That's all that matters to me. yeah I'm sure all the studies are "wrong" not sure how can I have a conversation when you dismiss well known and well studies phenomenons
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 11:58 PM
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It was not set up by evolution. That’s a theory peddled by Roy Baumeister, a social psychologist. He’s expanding on the idea of Ivana Milojevic who argued that patriarchy set men up as the role of “violence object” directly opposite of woman as the “sex object.” The Milojevic theory is that this benefits no one, but it has been twisted into “this is how little people value men.” All of this is tied back to an anthropologist who wrote about it in the 70s. She was using it to study genealogy and d…
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 11:55 PM
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Why don’t you enjoy random men putting their cock in your asshole? Isn’t sex enjoyable for both parties? Why should I have to pay just to put my dick in your asshole and ejaculate then leave you? Lol bad sex exists, but it is on women to find good one - they are the ones with options and I don't understand why men would do all the work to get a woman in bed and then fuck it up and have to go through that process all over again Basically, you gotta meet the right person - someone who likes you fo…
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 11:49 PM
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If you just want to meet and fuck someone you can hire a prostitute just as easily as a woman can find a guy on tinder for a one night stand - probably easier and the prostitute will be hotter than her average tinder hookup but why is sex not an activity to be enjoyed, equal for both men and women? do women not enjoy sex? Are they not attracted to men? why do men have to pay for it? But you don’t really want that - you want an emotional connection with someone compatible who likes you for you - …
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 09:34 PM
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Men are in a mental health crisis and have been socialized to believe their value is only in being a provider or through finding sex. This should change. I don’t know what else you want me to say. but it is not going to change because it's convenient for women as it is right now it's also set up by evolution, men are the disposable gender
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 09:24 PM
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why my narrative be something that makes the world a worse place for me if it was not true?
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 09:22 PM
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Just like women on tinder will find guys who will use them for sex and leave them oh yeah, I forgot men have 0 sexual value
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 09:22 PM
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Lol making a tinder acct would definitely get her lots of dudes who want to sleep with her will a guy get loads of women wanting to sleep with him if he makes a tinder account?
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 09:14 PM
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they certainly do you just don't like it so you dismiss it lmao
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 09:13 PM
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Do red pill people even like women at this point? It’s frustrating do women even like men? certainly does not feel so
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 09:12 PM
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it really is not I've linked a really well put together post
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 08:36 PM
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you're just too stupid to argue with tbh go actually google what statistics are and what they do and how are they used
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 07:39 PM
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just because you don't pay attention to them, does not mean the dynamics they describe do not happen you don't need to be a physicist, yet gravity still has effect on you
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 06:38 PM
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that's what stats literally do - survey and describe reality
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 06:36 PM
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so you're either a sexually frustrated incel loser, or get fucked over repeatedly by women who view you as trash wonderful
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:43 PM
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there isn't if you have to be an incel loser for the entirety of it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:27 PM
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you are actually stupid you don't understand the basic concept of how statistics work how old are you?
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 05:24 PM
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I don't care about your random anecdotal example statistics are pretty clear on how much options women have versus men hell, make a tinder account for your sister and tell me how no-one wants to date her
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 05:01 PM
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and what choice I have? statistics describe reality not reading them it does not make it not real
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 05:00 PM
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bad advice? there is nothing else you can do as a male - the evolution has set up the genders to work this way I hate what he's saying, but at the same time I realize that it is how it works
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:58 PM
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pathetic? depends but what part I've said is wrong? I as a male can't dress up to be pretty or sexy
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 04:56 PM
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by choice there is no intersex competition between women
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 04:56 PM
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what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:18 AM
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due to evolutionarily reasons men are loved less, they are the disposable gender It honestly breaks my heart to see young men falling into the trap of feeling like they need to achieve x y and z in order to get the perfect person they desire men need to compete for women, and there will always be some 30% of men who will be incels women select, men compete and get selected out to die alone that is literally how evolution works
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 11:14 AM
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Become the opposite? No. You don't have to enjoy it. But if you want women you have to do it ya. Sorry. You can absolutely choose to act a certain way even if it drains you. Working out is tough but it also helps you get girls. You have to work out daily too. If you prefer to stay incel that's of course your choice. If the juice isn't worth the squeeze for you as they say? Don't change. But also you'll never have a girlfriend I have to change myself entirely, I have to approach and put in all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 10:52 AM
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men are disposable and low value we have no impact on women, women are a higher class of society, we are the second class citizens why would be women be impacted by a group that is inferior to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 10:48 AM
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For what it’s worth, I think you are worth a lot - you’re a thinking human being who is trying to engage and reach out I'm not a human being - I'm a male that by default means my life is worth less, that I am interior I have been made so by the virtue of being born, I cannot blame anyone, the evolution has made it so there is no solution, there is nothing I can do - except not participate I don't enjoy living the life I do, and until recently I had though that it was my fault - I had thought tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 12:56 AM
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I don't care about relationships where the man is a worthless slave cash pig for the woman
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 12:55 AM
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did you read through this thread? I really think you should just take a look...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 12:49 AM
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but there is no reward for it there is not reward for many guys who put in effort into their looks, because they are still unattractive regardless of what they do and even if they do get some benefit, it's minimal a guy cannot dress up to be cute, he can't put on makeup to be prettier he can only make sure he is not disgusting and that's it
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 12:12 AM
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you're compensating with some other attribute(s) for your lack of sexual value
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 11:43 PM
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You’re incredibly confident in your belief that you know all the negative connotations for women - how are you so sure? How do you actually expect women to be more empathetic and try to find ways to be more supportive and open to men if you are so dismissive and hostile? I’m trying to engage in good faith, and it feels like you’re just entrenched and angry and unable to concede anything… I'm pretty sure I know all your main talking points, and I still think that dealing with consequences of bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 11:43 PM
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nope, not how it works having a vagina gives you higher sexual value, and that means finding both fwbs and relationships way easier, but most importantly, it gives them all the power even in the relationship itself the male is almost always the weaker party in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 11:24 PM
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I'm just so sick of being a woman. The constant obsession with ageing is not only popular in redpill - it is all over television, social media, the skincare industry, etc, and the pressure to get baby botox, to use sunscreen, retinoids, and vitamin c. I'm so sick of that. Men age too, often worse than women and no one pressures them into all of this. do you know why? BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ATTRACTIVE IN THE FIRST PLACE they can't preserve their beauty or attractivness when there is none to begi…
/r/ExRedPill28/12/22 09:41 PM
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the point is that a woman has sexual value that is high enough to compensate for whatever sub-optimal trait, while a guy has zero sexual value so he has to make it up with some other high value traits, and if he fails, he is worthless
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 09:38 PM
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?
/r/MensRights28/12/22 08:32 PM
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no men are some self-improvements away from a "great sex life" the sex lives men lead are fundamentally shit because they are the ones who have to always chase and initiate and do all the work for little reward
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 07:38 PM
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what's X?
/r/MensRights28/12/22 07:12 PM
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having sex with a small number of barely interested women does not mean you have sexual value
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 06:53 PM
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I’ve already said several times that men face difficulties and unfairness women don’t. But women also have their own difficulties and unfairness - which you don’t seem to acknowledge at all. Because men and women are not the same, it’s hard for us to empathise with one another - but if you can’t see that I am trying, then you’re not actually reading my words. I am, and I am very much aware of ALL the negative connotations that come from being attractive and having value - and I would still much …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 06:40 PM
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Women chased him. I didn’t even quite get why, but they did. do you realize that this goes against literally all available data and facts we have about dating? if it's really true, your friend is a literal exception to the rule But so do women women don't have to compensate because their sexual value makes up for it they don't have to compensate for being shy, anxious or not being the perfect extroverted life of the party
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 06:18 PM
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and you are? are you considering what I'm saying? I don't think you realize what impact not being desired at all has on a person men are fucking desperate to be apricated, they do things women would never, because they are at their wits end
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 06:07 PM
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if you constantly have to be the one to be the more interested party and put in more effort to compensate for the fact that you are dating up that just sucks and I doubt he was dating "models" at 5'6 and even if he was, it is not at all the normal expereince of a 5'6 does it really matter if a guy has below average height but has developed an above average personality during his childhood and teenage years? if you don't have the right personality you are just as fucked as being short it's just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 05:48 PM
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I'm sure most women would be happier if they were considered unattractive, and entirely unsexy by most of the opposite gender and always had to chase disinterested members of the opposite gender hilarious how you talk about empathy and you cannot put yourself into men's shoes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 05:46 PM
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he is completely fucked, he has to put in insane effort just to be a slave to some mediocre looking women his dating experience does not sound enjoyable to me at all
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 05:16 PM
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look, you're a boomer, you've lived you life I'm a 22 year old incel and have never even held a girls hand if I have to live my entire life in solitude without ever engaging in my sexuality I might as well off myself now
/r/MensRights28/12/22 05:15 PM
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The nature of male sexuality seems unfair to me in many ways women have the better experience by FAR you don't have to approach, you don't have to initiate, you are desired, you are wanted, you are sexy while men are none of those men are creating an experience for you while you simply enjoy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 05:14 PM
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so he's just pretty much perfect he fits into stereotypical masculinity if he was shy or had any other feminine trait, he would be fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 04:48 PM
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If you’re asking a woman to immediately find you sexually arousing, pursue you, rip your clothes off and start voraciously sucking your dick, then yeah, you’re out of luck. Most women wouldn’t even do that for the hottest guy on Earth without some effort and initiation on his part, because female sexuality is not male sexuality. You will have to meet women at least halfway or a bit more at first, to get that desire to come out of her. I’m sorry if that’s too much to ask, but you have to be willi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 04:37 PM
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he had to compensate by being perfect because he was 5'6
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 04:18 PM
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and die an incel great option
/r/MensRights28/12/22 04:17 PM
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I said there is an element of truth to it. Not that all women are completely passive and expect complete initiation and activation by a man. It goes by degrees and there are a lot of points along the spectrum. most will be I don't have enough options to select for one that will be proactive only extremely good looking men get that treatment Please, for your own good, try to see the nuance and don’t give into the anxiety that tells you it’s all doom and gloom. It really isn’t. I can't believe you…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 04:16 PM
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this is the most depressing fact about all of this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 02:35 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 01:55 PM
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that is the state I am being forced to by the supply and demand laws of the dating market I have a lower value because I'm a male, and therefore I have to compensate
/r/MensRights28/12/22 12:00 PM
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you are not allowed to be, every negative action of the male is immediately recognized and punished
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 11:38 AM
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real consequence is getting thrown in jail or getting beaten like men do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 11:36 AM
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yeah I'll pick from all the hundreds of options I have
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 11:34 AM
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I mean, what he's saying is not "great" but it really is like that and you won't get more from a heterosexual relationship you do all the things for the woman, and all you get in return is the permission to do them and not getting replaced for some other guy who will do them
/r/MensRights28/12/22 11:30 AM
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Sex is often defined as an act a man does and a woman receives and although this isn’t very “sex positive” it has some element of truth exactly and I fucking hate this I hate that I can never be the object of desire in a relationship with a woman, that I will always have to initiate and create an experience for her, always the one to put in effort perhaps most heterosexual men don't have a problem with that because their sexuality is 100% dominant, but mine is not, and that is simply not allowed…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 11:21 AM
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if he was popular at 5'9 imagine how popular he would have been at 6'2 being shorter is just a plain negative to your value and saying "he’s never had any issues getting women" means nothing because I'm pretty sure he was not pulling the prettiest girls being taller puts you in a higher league
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 11:17 AM
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Never said it was easy. But it IS changeable. And while height helps you, sociability is 1000x more important. Not comedian shit. Just being cool and not weird. And yes that involves things you may hate like keeping up on TV shows or celebrities or news or whatever. Bc if you start spouting off about the newest anime or leagues of legend character... it doesn't look great. so I just have to become someone else basically because I'm the opposite of that I have to become someone I don't even want …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 11:02 AM
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Enjoying social situations she enjoys, being the life of the party, easy conversationalist, and somewhat witty is more than enough that is plenty hard for dudes that are not naturally that Compensate? There's no compensating related to this issue. The hottest man in the world will 100% fail if he's an introvert who hates people and can't socialize -- yes, even in online dating. All Women at least vet with one date before sex. I.e. sex on the first date = you went on a date and didn't come off as…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 12:46 AM
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so what? men don't need a woman to have standup comedian tier social skills when they want to fuck if I had any sexual value women would not need me to compensate with personality
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 12:07 AM
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5'10 is about average in the US, but the point is that at 6'3 you can be truly attractive while I at 5'10 will always be inferior
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 12:04 AM
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physical attractiveness exists regardless of what one thinks or whatever other trait a male model is still hot even tho he is a misogynist or a murderer, people might choose not to date him, but that does not mean he is not hot anymore that's like saying a guy is not tall anymore because he is a bad human being if the sex appeal men have is so feeble, then it does not exist in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:58 PM
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no it's just nonsense, women are matching with chads, and not charity workers
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:57 PM
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average where I live is 6' and there is a massive difference between 6'3 and 5'10
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:54 PM
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mental gymnastics
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:53 PM
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because they say nonsense like "we are attracted to kindness"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:52 PM
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choose better partners, you are the one with agency
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:52 PM
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you understand that women are at more of a physical risk of harm every time they approach a total stranger? Or some men call women sluts for approaching first sure that's a factor, but far bigger factor is their lower desire, they just don't want it as much which is why men have to approach Also some guys do wear more racy clothing (tight/form fitted, nice sneakers or boots with more sex appeal, pants that aren’t baggy, revealing/loose tank tops, or just walking without a top on at all- also gro…
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 11:49 PM
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I'm 22 anyway, the supply demand thing is even worse in gaming because the ratio is shit
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 10:43 PM
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that was me referring to the comment about CEOs idiot
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 09:08 PM
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yeah I'm 5'10 so I live in a different reality so bye
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 09:07 PM
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I don't watch porn much you're running out of things to say, you can't refute my legit points
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 08:45 PM
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if you don't understand what apex fallacy is then you're low iq
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:45 PM
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why don't women buy porn of men on OF? Why don't men wear revealing clothes to get attention? Why do men have to always initiate and approach? Why do men have to perform for the woman during sex? because men are not sexy and women desire men far less than men desire women
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 08:42 PM
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retarded take makeup and "waxing" is more than having to initate everything and pick her up? also men certainly don't "get ready" or shave or do anything right fucking simp
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:38 PM
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Like how men hold most positions of power in major companies and governments! Oh wait…never mind. you're just dumb af honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:36 PM
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I am tired but there is no solution, I was born into the gender that cannot experience what it's like to be attractive, sexy or valuable
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 08:28 PM
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men are clearly second class, and their lives matter less they are simply less valuable in every sense, and it shows on the way society functions
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:26 PM
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tf do you know what is my starting point? and high tier normies are still shit to women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:13 PM
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by the fact which part had to approach, initiate, push for sex, and put in more effort
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:13 PM
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I know more about this than you ever will and the answer is you can't unless you have a very specific starting point
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:06 PM
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what are you trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:00 PM
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so I can get gaslight? and lied to?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:00 PM
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if I had real sexual value my behavior would not make me sexually worthless, same as like women can behave however they want and still be sexy regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:58 PM
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Men and woman couple up all the time…there is nothing to refute. Woman like men, men like woman, it isn’t complicated. except the woman "likes" the man far less than he does her Nobody cares about all this shot, differences between gender roles dissolve, and you nothing dissolves lol, we are subject to gender norms and biology at the end of the day
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:55 PM
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wait arent you the 6'5 guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:54 PM
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I doubt they were attractive and I doubt there were really into you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:53 PM
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Join a club, take some dancing lessons, volunteer , do something real with real people and you will realize all this gender war shit is just useless noise it's omnipresent I as a male will always be inferior and have lower value than women I will always be wanted less, I will always have less power in the relationship men are the second class citizens, the slave class of society and joining dancing lessons won't change that ignoring it won't make it not true
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:14 PM
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you cannot refute anything I've said about sexuality and use "go into the real world" as a cop out men are far less desired, you know it's true
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:12 PM
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I don't need to get gaslight by a woman on "how very much they are attracted to men" I watch what they do, and their actions are loud and clear
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:38 PM
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Yeah I’ve even been in relationships! Does that blow your mind or something? being in a relationship is not equal to being desired I shouldn’t have to tell you that people act way way differently in real life than they do on anonymous social medias. Like…how old are you? they are more true when they are anonymous and I'm 22 If you’re just repeating stuff you’ve read online without any real life experience, then I don’t know where to go with this conversation. I mean real life experience talking …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:37 PM
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can I improve myself? sure can I become the extroverted charismatic smooth guys women want? no
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:35 PM
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except even average an above average men are still "ugly" they still have 0 sexual value
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 06:29 PM
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I have enough real life experience to know woman are not some monolith hive mind. Some have even found my out of shape ass attractive! yeah I fucking doubt that I highly doubt that found you as attractive as you did them Stop reading about woman on the internet, it’s poisoning you. Go outside and meet people as people. because what women on the internet say apparently does not matter and how is it any different IRL? men approach women because men want women more than women want men men have lowe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:28 PM
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not really not all of them can fully overcome their mental ilness youre naive
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:22 PM
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Learn how to talk, be funny, confident, etc. ah, so find ways to compensate because I'm inherently worthless? All of that can help help to not even get a fraction of the desire women get?
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 06:19 PM
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well yeah a guy needs to be perfect in every way
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:10 PM
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lol how the fuck can I change anything? I was born a male, which means I am inherently inferior furthermore I was not born in the genetic top 5% of chads so I don't have any sexual value to women how can I change any of that? just lol
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 06:09 PM
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remotely handsome or attractive face that means near model because the criteria for male beauty are so high
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:08 PM
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there’s no way women are only attracted to 5% of men depends of what you consider "attracted" because under my definition, women are not attracted to men in general that much even the better looking ones, the desire women have is just lukewarm and you can see this in day to day life, how men and women dress, who approaches who etc
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:01 PM
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a 5'8 guy would need near model face to even compete, below that, not even a model face will save him
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:59 PM
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some things are just not changeable like that people with PTSD or depression can't change like that you can't decide to be funny and become funny not how things work
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:57 PM
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because it literally is true and idk what interest do you have in lying on the internet to me about things that are obvious from day to day life
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:56 PM
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If you continue to act like this, then you better believe it that women will never want to have something with you, since you seem like a desperate and boring asshole. women don't want anything to do with me because I am an average male and have 0 worth to them You are a sad and bitter man that likes to use women as an excuse for your own problems that you are stubborn to deal with it and if you don't fix those issues now then it wil only get worse with age. sorry I was not born into the top 5% …
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 05:54 PM
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everything he said is unachievable if you don't have it by the time you're 17 and compensating with personality is not physical attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:46 PM
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you getting bottom of the barrel casual sex is not "attractive" chasing women like a dog until they comply is not "being desired"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:40 PM
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you're dishonest and I will stop engaging with you not even athletic men have any sexual value because men as a gender aren't sexy or desirable men don't have sexual value, perhaps except a few physically perfect male models
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:38 PM
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I've seen obama in the wallmart today real life no meme
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:38 PM
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Put it to you this way. Let’s say you are a couch potato. That’s your personality. But let’s say, for an experiment, you go to the gym everyday for a year straight! Are you still a couch potato? No, you’re now a gym bro. are you fucking stupid or something? you are still the same person, with the same traumas and the same major personality traits you can't change from introvert to extrovert and your gym example is beyond retarded
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:37 PM
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shit take won't even reply
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 05:36 PM
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no normal minded young person would suggest anything so idiotic and unrealistic as you did or maybe you're just trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:36 PM
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no male models to give you attention?
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 05:35 PM
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ya, they are right next to unicorns and the bigfoots
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:35 PM
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A man should only need to be in great shape and have an attractive personality for a woman. too bad that's not how it works and the female requirements for personality are just as unrealistic as for looks
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:34 PM
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thats a long way to just say you agree
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:33 PM
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same thing honestly who cares about people outside my socioeconomic bubble I don't care that some fat gypsy would "lust" after me and pretending that is equivalent to average men lusting over you is dishonest
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:32 PM
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Okay, even if this were true (which it is OBVIOUSLY not when you understand the mere fact that most men are not 6ft yet most men still end up somehow not dying virgins), then so what? I don't care some men mange to weasel their way to pussy that's far from actually being attractive What does it matter? it mattes because (almost) every women can reach a level where she can feel sexy or desirable, but nearly all guys can't
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:31 PM
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Men don’t have to look perfect. What are you going on about? they do if they want to be attractive Men need to meet the basics. Basic physical fitness, basic hygiene, clothes that actually fit you, steady job. It’s really not that much to ask. most men fit this and yet still are invisible and have 0 sexual value
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:27 PM
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Tall woman also struggle with guys who are too insecure to date them. meme at this point tall women still want taller men which is why they struggle
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:26 PM
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but that makes it different from OPs situation jesus
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 05:26 PM
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you can change only a little bit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:26 PM
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sexual attraction is physical I don't care that he's compensating with his personality and also why would it matter to me when I am not him?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:52 PM
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obviously when women have hundreds of good options at all times
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 02:10 PM
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I' sure there are so many sexually frustrated women when they have hundreds of options on tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:10 PM
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I know myself that my personality is not the correct one and it's not going to change, I am already past my developmental years
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:26 PM
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but they don't have the required personality nevertheless
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:13 PM
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the process of calibrating your approach to be perfect and finding (and maintaining) places and situations where you can approach is like a full time job
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:12 PM
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It's never too late it literally is tho I will never be an extrovert now that I have developed into an introvert
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:11 PM
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It’s not my looks that got me laid, it’s my confidence and my social / communication skills getting laid != being actually sexually desirable I don't care you chased women that are not interested like a dog until they complied confident and fun to be around personality is just as unchangeable as looks Chicks just loved being in their company because they were fun and they made whoever they were hanging out with feel good about themselves and they had the personality type to just light up the roo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:10 PM
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So, in your mind, if I recommend that a poster actually “approach women he likes” - to you that = “approach like a pickup artist + make approaching women your full time job, bro + you’re approaching alot of women so they clearly don’t like you bro” that's what it really means when you break it down to actual details
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:01 PM
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sorry for not developing the perfect charismatic smooth personality when I was 15
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:00 PM
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either that, or a clueless above average male
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:53 PM
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your attitude would suck too if you were unattractive to 95% of the opposite gender just by the virtue of being average or if it was impossible for you to be beautiful or sexy because that's something not accessible to your gender if you were put in the position of an average male, you would be bitter beyond comprehension
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:47 PM
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when you called out op for not approaching
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:43 PM
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except most men are "sex demons" compared to women every guy feels a strong desire if you're a woman, but if you're a guy, good looking trying to find a woman with a strong desire
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:43 PM
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you certainly did
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:40 PM
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I'm average In the US I would be above average yet I am entirely sexually unattractive to women because I am not prefect
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:40 PM
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Men do not have to look “perfect” to be considered attractive though they need to be 6ft minimum, have a top 10% face, broad shoulders, thick wrists, be athletic, have an above average sized dick, have a full head of hair to be conventionally attractive and even then they will get just a fraction of the desire average women get
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:39 PM
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if women were attracted to average men I would have never even become bitter in the first place you're telling me I have to put in effort and chase people who see me as unattractive and inferior and when I become bitter from that situation, you say that is the "real problem" my attitude was created by the situation in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:35 PM
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studies claim otherwise
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 12:33 PM
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if I have to make searching and approaching women my full time job, then they want me less than I do them obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:32 PM
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oh, it must be the fact I am not willing to chase women that are not interested like a dog right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:31 PM
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Facial features, aging, body shape same for men even more so for men, because men have to look perfect to be attractive women don't have to be perfect
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:30 PM
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it is I've been gaming my whole life and met like one female gamer IRL? meanwhile I've interacted with hundreds of men
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 12:29 PM
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so? it was by your own choice
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 12:29 PM
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you attacked OP for not being a pickup artist and not making chasing women his full time job
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:24 PM
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no, it's looks their looks are so unappealing, that they have to compensate with attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:24 PM
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hang out on the streets like a vagrant. Be kind to people, start having simple conversations without a point to them and just enjoy making other people's day better there should be a disclaimer when a boomer is commenting
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:23 PM
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there is nothing sexually attractive on an average male a guy needs to be nearly a perfect male model with an athletic physique to have any sex appeal what so ever men don't get sexually attractive traits just because they were born
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:21 PM
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brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:18 PM
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except men don't need models to feel attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:15 PM
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you can't "become" a chad lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:14 PM
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they can easily find great sex but with average men instead of models
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:12 PM
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irrelevant if you don't have the required looks and personality
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:09 PM
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It's not about looks by the way i'm sure its about kindness
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:08 PM
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Sadly, it sounds like you've never experienced it. hilarious of you to aim that as an insult, when literally 98% of men won't experience that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:08 PM
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too bad that's only tall athletic male models
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:07 PM
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if you need to put in so much effort to convince the women to have sex with you, then they obviously don't want it as much as you do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:06 PM
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a guy can be truly sexually into even an average girl but a woman needs a male model for her full desire to awaken
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:06 PM
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they only swipe on 5% of profiles
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:05 PM
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the orgasm part is irrelevant - women would rather chase male models who don't give a fuck about their pleasure than normal men who DO care
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:59 AM
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if you have to chase women like a dog, then it obviously means they don't want it as much as you do lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:58 AM
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do you want them believing that she doesn’t like sex as much as he does I'm pretty sure a guy that this post is aimed at will never meet a woman that is as interested in sex as he is
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:57 AM
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a sexually frustrated woman I will after I'm done having a discussion with an unicorn, a leprechaun and the bigfoot
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:56 AM
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There's nothing he can do about his height but he can his fat ass into shape by hitting the gym or working out and going to the doctor about his jaw. just pay 20k for a double jaw surgery to still be invisible to women dude delusionally convinced because virtually no woman wants to sleep with a short fat guy with a recessed drug that women are anti-sexual delusional? he's right lmao There's nothing he can do about his height but he can his fat ass into shape by hitting the gym or working out and…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:54 AM
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But I disagree that it’s harmful for men to know this. Living in reality, no matter how brutal, is better than being lied to if ALL men were aware how they are being viewed by women, it would be a problem for society
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:52 AM
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I’ve had women get frisky and initiate sex with me in the back of my college library one night when we were cramming for finals, in someone’s garden outside a nightclub because we were too horny to wait until we got home, in a train, in a car, and a bunch of other places. means you're highly above average looking most men will never experience this most men won't experience enthusiastic sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:51 AM
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a bit more picky understatement of the century
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:49 AM
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they often aren't satisfied by JUST sex with anyone (and to be honest, I can't imagine many men are either, I certainly wouldn't be) men are satisfied with an average girl, while women need a male model The difference is that desperate men are too focussed on empty sex without thinking about all of the good things that should also come with it. there aren't many "other good things" if you're an average guy average men are dogshit to women, they don't give them any other "good things"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:48 AM
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"good sex" = sex with a male model
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:44 AM
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except a guy only needs a moderately cute girl, but a woman needs a guy to be perfect physically and personality wise
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:44 AM
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do you really need to ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:20 AM
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that's the only way a lot of them are going to get free wild and enthusiastic monkey sex from gorgeous women. that's still only a small minority of men a 5'9 guy with average looks is never going to get "free wild and enthusiastic monkey sex from gorgeous women" no amount of gym will save him and also men with sub-optimal personalities too, like introverts
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:18 AM
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that's like telling the exploited laborer in china his labor is worth really this little just because he's getting exploited by a global capitalist cabal
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:16 AM
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if she won't have casual sex with you, but will have a relationship with you, it means you're compensating somewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:15 AM
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feelings. Women are treated very differently based on looks, and we don’t like it but it’s something we must accept. I don’t see why men feel like it’s such an injustice that the same applies to them because women are judged on factors that are under their control (weight) while men are fuckable or unfuckable purely on genetic factors (height)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:13 AM
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women don't go through the same problems as we do in life
/r/MensRights26/12/22 01:19 PM
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if another lonely guy makes fun out of me for being an incel (or any other male issue), it's fine, but if a woman does it, it's not it's like the n-word
/r/MensRights26/12/22 01:03 PM
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eh, the examples you've given come off as fun & just barter between guys, but in OPs example and usually when women invalidate male trauma it's not "fun", it's mean guys can make fun out of each other because we know what it's like - but women don't
/r/MensRights26/12/22 12:41 PM
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you really think that the female orgasm is equivalent to the male one? even on the MRI machine it shows the female orgasm happens is many more parts of the brain are we going to ignore the female orgasm is longer, more powerful, full body and can happen again and again? why do women scream and shake when men are completely silent and have it under control the whole time? I mean obviously it has to be stronger if they lose control of their voice and body lol
/r/MensRights25/12/22 07:37 PM
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try again The conscious neglect of men and boys in the war on human trafficking
/r/MensRights23/12/22 04:44 PM
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if you're getting such attention as women being flirty with you, it means you're good looking women aren't flirty with average men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 10:01 AM
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I used to be close to 80lbs overweight and then lost that weight. Women that knew me for years at that point started becoming flirty when before they were at most friendly. you're lucky you had good genes underneath the fat
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 09:51 AM
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You get out what you put in cannot believe anyone can actually say this yeah sorry I didn't "put in" male model genetics
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 09:48 AM
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I think men fear crime more, but we men frame it more as "common sense" than "fear", for example, when a huge tall guy is getting aggressive we know to try to de-escalate the situation or get the fuck out of there, or we recognize situations that would most likely lead to getting injured We men accept this as a fact of life, the threat of physical violence is omnipresent for every guy, as there is no social rule not to hit men Women on the other hand, believe they are entitled to completely safe…
/r/MensRights23/12/22 09:25 AM
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a average woman makes tinder: 5000 likes an average guy makes tinder: 2 likes
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 08:28 PM
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it would be
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 08:24 PM
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partners should feel like equals otherwise you’re opening up a whole host of problems and resentment how can partners be equal when women have near god status in out society and most men are near worthless?
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 07:28 PM
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ignore everything I’m saying? what did I ignore?
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 07:12 PM
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It’s not some set skill you are either born with or not. "charisma" is developed in your childhood and early teenage years if you don't have it by late teenage years, you won't learn it from a YouTube video at 25 can’t even carry on a normal convo with other dudes about things like school and whatnot you're interpreting me not wanting to talk about school as not being able to carry a conversation? but sure, I can't carry a conversation when I have no life experiences because I was socially rejec…
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 07:04 PM
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I would essentially have to become a different person both in looks and in personality and it's going to take me so much time to save up enough for all the surgery + the years in the gym
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 06:42 PM
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crazy how little sex appeal then thin men have compared to thin women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:41 PM
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You need professional help for your lack of self esteem if you're not worth much and you realize it, it's not "lack of self esteem" but just being realistic And you don’t seem to understand that it’s mostly men looking for hookups on those apps I wonder why it's mostly men almost as if the women didn't want to associate with majority of men hmm
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 05:07 PM
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you must be trolling me if you think "VERY unattractive (to me) mega dweebs with terrible social skills" date plenty when literally average or above average guys who are fit and clean are struggling hard
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 04:52 PM
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I’ve known plenty of VERY unattractive (to me) mega dweebs with terrible social skills who date plenty confirmation bias for every one of these men, there is 10 (or more) that rot alone
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 04:49 PM
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well what you're saying goes against the data and statistics And you are denying the experiences of men who have been in healthy relationships who are telling you that it’s not that case? what do I know about you? if you are good looking? tall? naturally socially gifted? your life experience is different from mine, and does not necessarily apply
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 04:46 PM
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Why do you think you’re like that by default but that’s not true for women. Do you realize how wrong that sounds? It works for women similarly. You need to understand that the information you have about what women are attracted to is wrong. You have been lied to. Some women, like some men, only go for superficial traits and value physical appearance above all else, but this is not true for many people, especially people who are not superficial themselves and value other traits over just physical…
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 04:43 PM
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My friends are in relationships with quite a variety of physical types of men and they find them attractive. Women are not a monolith. They have varying personal preferences and it sounds like you’d be very surprised at the variety interesting then that it's always the same types of guys that get all the matches Not believing that all men you find “conventionally unattractive” are in loving, sexually relationships is a reflection of your self-worth and self-esteem. It’s not based in reality. una…
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 04:39 PM
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yes I do think women compromise on their sexual attraction when it comes to selecting a long term partner
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 04:37 PM
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Like there hasn’t been any women that were pretty average but you hung out with them a bit and felt attracted to them? I am attracted to average women by default unlike women You’re not doing yourself any favors if you are lying to yourself by believing only conventionality attractive model looking people find love in relationships. That’s just not reality. Average people and everything in between fall in love all the time. so I've gotta get a woman to fall in love with me so that she tolerates …
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 04:14 PM
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no not really, there is a study that female attention and male looks correlate exponentially, while the female looks and male attention correlate linearly
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 04:10 PM
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No woman on planet earth has ever commented nor notices my wrists that’s male projection if I’ve ever seen one. just like no male ever notices the womans hip to waist ratio? lol just like women don't notice the guys shoulder to waist/hip ratio? And majority men have the genetic potential to look like they visibly lift and look good I don't
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 04:02 PM
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there are reasons other than sexual attraction to enter a long term relationship
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 03:36 PM
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Now you’re saying it’s all genetics lol if it was just gym that made the difference it means your face was good enough, your frame was wide enough, your wrists think enough etc. simply you had the genetic potential if you were lacking, the gym would have not changed anything
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 03:36 PM
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top 10% is real life, it's 1 in 10, do you not have 10 men in your social circle? Lol I’ve been doing this before I became good looking the fact you were able to "become" good looking implies you always had the genetics for it unattractive men who are comfortable in their sexuality are mocked, shamed and ridiculed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 03:17 PM
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lifting will not make a guy attractive when women are barely into male bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 03:15 PM
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if you want to lmao at implying I was not forced from the moment I was born
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 03:08 PM
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Reviled by who? by pretty much everybody, it's the mainstream narrative I find it funny how you could only nitpick that because im right you're not wrong, but you need to add a disclaimer that what you're saying applies only to top 10% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 03:05 PM
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then you should just subscribe to Onlyfans now so it seems so it seems that if a man that is not a genetic marvel wants sex or affection he simply has to pay for it in some way depressing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 03:03 PM
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that just means dude couldn’t turn on a light switch, let alone a woman. so like 80% of men? and again, the notion that you have to "turn the woman on", that you have to do some elaborate strategy for her to be willing to be sexual goes against your point if women were really horny and even close to men sexually, men would not need to jump through so many hoops
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:57 PM
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it's rare for a woman to be horny, the conditions have to be perfect (obv the guy has to be extremely good looking) and even then their lust is only a fraction of what a man feels towards a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:51 PM
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Good luck with your self sabotage I think you're lying to maintain the notion of "just world" so you do not have to mentally face the fact you have it super easy while many many men will never have a woman attracted to them this way you can blame the men, instead of just acknowledging the world is not fair to them
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 02:43 PM
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women are not hornier any study that claims so, is just bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:41 PM
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only with top % men of course
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:41 PM
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what?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:40 PM
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Why are you trying to fight what helps you? if you told me I don't need to eat food and that is good news what does it mean? when I will be starving by tomorrow? it means nothing because it simply is not true lmao a certain genetic level is required for a woman to even look at a man, and even once they guy passes that level, her attraction is not even a fraction of what the guy feels
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 02:40 PM
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the notion that you need to "up your game" goes difectly againt your point if you need to create her arousal and then constantly need to maintain her arousal by doing something, some activity then how is she lusting over you? you're basically manipulating her into her allowing you to fuck her that is far away from "lust" or "desire"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:39 PM
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if they really were even little bit close to men sexually, lots of things would be very different
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:37 PM
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I was born as a male that's not in the top 10% genetically, so I don't really have any other option
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 02:36 PM
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they get horny far less, and their attraction is far weaker and the way they get horny is worse for men, because the women don't desire the man himself, but what he will do to her etc a man can never experience being desired or lusted over the way a woman can in a way, the entirety of the sexual intercourse is all about the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:34 PM
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more life experience than you *more life experience as a female you have no male life experience, and you have little to no knowledge when it comes to being a male sexually only info you have is from men who are successful, which is just a % of men
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 02:33 PM
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what? but they are not
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:31 PM
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male sexuality is seen as unwanted and is repressed while female one is celebrated
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:30 PM
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not nearly as much as vaginas arouse men, that is the point
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:30 PM
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Sounds like where you're at right now. except my body is fucking worthless at best and disgusting/unwanted at worst because I am a male my body and sexuality does not have any inherent value like yours grew the fuck up you cannot skip the step where you have romantic and sexual relationships I don't give a fuck if people are into me sexually. Don't need it. It's too much baggage. cause they have been, are and will be lol it's not something you have to worry about, by being a woman you always hav…
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 02:29 PM
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focus on respecting and valuing people of all sizes and shapes tell that to women, who are the ones unanimously rejecting short men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:27 PM
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choose better from the hundreds of options you have
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:23 PM
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I'd personally choose thinner guys over more muscled guys any day crazy how often women say this and yet universally thin male bodies have 0 sex appeal
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:17 PM
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We don't know what he looks like. if he was attractive he would know, women would make it clear to him and he's 5'7 so he'd need a near male model face to be attractive at that height Source? Not true in my life. All of my friends are just average people and they get laid confirmation bias You missed the point of what I said. It's subjective anyway. I'd rather be artistic and ugly than beautiful and talentless. The latter is shallow and vapid. I'd rather have my work be beautiful than myself. It…
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 02:15 PM
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comfortable in your own sexuality "just be comfortable with your own sexuality even tho it's universally reviled bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:12 PM
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What you have to realise is that this idea that women are only interested in some super "chad" hunk model whatever is nonsense OLD data shows that that is the female preference
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 01:55 PM
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Most people are bad at viewing their looks objectively. You're probably not as ugly as you feel. does not mean he is attractive especially when the bar for men to be attractive is so high Literally everyone in their teens and 20s compares themselves to others and thinks they aren't good enough in one way or another. There's probably someone out there who is jealous of you or some aspect of your life. except there are men (and women) who have active and great dating and sex lives I have a friend …
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 01:54 PM
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Also, most people don’t look like super models and they do just fine in life. Are you trying to star in a marvel movie or be a Calvin Klein model? If not, then you do not need to look like a model. if you want to have dating options you also need to be conventionally attractive
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 01:53 PM
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yes, male sexuality is worthless nothing new only used to manipulate men
/r/MensRights21/12/22 01:14 PM
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sure, but amphetamine/meth does what you want infinitely better and lasts literally 10 times longer for 1/10 the price cocaine is like the cream of the crop of stimulants and is just for socializing
/r/MensRights20/12/22 04:44 PM
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you're coping here so much it's common knowleage that women orgasm for longer and stronger than men literally ask any male who has made a woman orgasm, I don't care the study when it's obviously wrong have you ever seen a guy having an orgasm that made him scream and shake for a minute? lol
/r/MensRights20/12/22 01:13 PM
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if women craved the male body as men do the female, then male body would be sexualized and used in ads, movies etc if there is no demand, there is no supply
/r/MensRights20/12/22 01:08 PM
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it's because they realize that by making their attraction and sex more scarce, they can gouge the price even higher
/r/MensRights20/12/22 01:06 PM
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Although, I can't really explain Twilight... maybe it's just because the dudes there are hot did you forget that every single vampire was incredibly successful and rich? not to mention, "being a vampire (or a werewolf ig)" puts you in the top 0.1& instantly because who else is that? surely an normal man without superpowers can't measure up an immortal super strong, super rich, intelligent being? it's a common theme in female erotica, that the male love interest is so incredible that a normal hum…
/r/MensRights20/12/22 01:05 PM
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they're just afraid to discuss it openly because the women in the social circles form a heard and attack them as a group so unless you are in a male dominated social circle where you will get backed up socially, you cannot go against the female collective but most male social circles want women to be a part of them, because otherwise it becomes a sausage party really quick, so they usually bend over and humor the feminist dogma what's going on on a macro societal scale, is also happening in a mi…
/r/MensRights20/12/22 11:56 AM
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stop calling it toxic masculinity then - call it "toxic expectations" but oh wait, people want to blame it on men
/r/ExRedPill20/12/22 11:51 AM
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why is it cocaine? I don't get it I'd say that the drug of chefs would be amphetamine or meth, it's so much cheaper and lasts so much longer
/r/MensRights20/12/22 10:49 AM
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I have seen many short guys I would never want to tangle with. Physicality is only part of the deterrence equation; attitude and looking like you could pose a massive problem is the other half, and I would argue the majority of the equation. short (not too too short) guy can be imposing, but he mas be massive in every other way, big wrists, hands, big frame, high bodyweight but usually shortness comes with a smaller skeleton overall, not just shorter
/r/PussyPass17/12/22 11:00 PM
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well I live in eastern Europe and I don't see how it would be possible the dating scene here is just like any other maybe a little bit better - but it's not like an American citizenship has any worth to people who already have the EU one, EE is not Philippines maybe Russia is different since it's not EU and is a lot poorer
/r/MensRights17/12/22 04:46 PM
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There are east european places for white men also entirely incorrect you have no idea about the social landscape of eastern europe
/r/MensRights17/12/22 03:48 PM
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also another standards is that you have to be grinding for something that will benefit others, if you're grinding for solely selfish reasons, you will look bad as a man women of course are allowed to pursue goals for fully selfish reasons I have met this standards when I as a guy invest in my looks (gym, cosmetics, plastic surgery), it is seen as a waste of money and pure selfishness, while a woman can invest in her looks without it being seen negatively
/r/MensRights17/12/22 02:43 PM
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sure it's an option, but it's far form ideal it also just signifies how bad things are, and it only creates more men's issues - having white men come into your country and date your women does not feel great if you're an ethnic guy
/r/MensRights17/12/22 02:41 PM
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this post just proves how bad the dating market is for men imagine a woman considering this: "he killed a few women in the past, but he's nice now, should I stay with him?" dude, if you literally had any other options, you'd have left yesterday
/r/MensRights17/12/22 12:52 PM
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https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/jcqzu2/a_female_prisoner_of_war_argued_that_the_torture/
/r/MensRights17/12/22 12:46 PM
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I find these comparisons of pain, trauma etc. pretty useless https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/jcqzu2/a_female_prisoner_of_war_argued_that_the_torture/
/r/MensRights17/12/22 12:46 PM
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you're going to get raped and assaulted in prison anyway it's a part of the package
/r/MensRights17/12/22 12:42 PM
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that would be a systemic investigation of false accusations, and the feminist cult will not allow that
/r/MensRights17/12/22 12:38 PM
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His baby momma had a history of mental health issues, psych ward treatment etc. it’s no surprise a severely mentally ill person would do something like this - but it’s so common it’s beyond mental illness. I consistently see that the false accuser has some kind of a massive hole in their defense, like idiotic claims, or crazy court history - and they almost win, or straight up win if a woman has more than 60IQ, she can devise a plan that is just not beatable for the man, no matter what, if she c…
/r/MensRights17/12/22 12:31 PM
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building a social life takes far more time
/r/ExRedPill16/12/22 08:19 AM
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What exactly would redpill offer that will help? an explanation
/r/ExRedPill16/12/22 08:18 AM
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he's short lol he will always be at a physical disadvantage
/r/PussyPass15/12/22 11:15 PM
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lol you don't even have to be in the same space does not work, a false accusation will destroy you even if what the woman says makes 0 sense
/r/PussyPass15/12/22 10:41 PM
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female abuse is tolerated in society, it flied under the radar completely
/r/PussyPass15/12/22 10:39 PM
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we can't prohibit the feminists from spreading their hate agenda, because that would be infringing on their right of free speech and it would be hypocritical
/r/MensRights15/12/22 07:56 PM
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freedom should be able to also say four plus four make five freedom of speech should not rely on the thing spoken being "correct" - there will always be someone who thinks your opinion is incorrect and you should be silent
/r/MensRights15/12/22 07:24 PM
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because this subreddits is one of the few places where people speak the truth - through posts like this one
/r/MensRights14/12/22 11:30 PM
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very high IQ post - so many people don't realize that all the male issues (and female too) stem from fundamental human biology, and unless some crazy technological advancement happens, it will always be this lopsided
/r/MensRights14/12/22 10:56 PM
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how is anything going to help men when their purpose in the evolution is to get weeded out?
/r/MensRights14/12/22 10:55 PM
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why are you still here? you are like the least likable and helpful person here your takes are 0 iq thinly veiled misandry
/r/ExRedPill14/12/22 01:02 PM
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people on r/incelexit does have your best interests in mind, they are there to defend the virtue of women first and foremost
/r/ExRedPill14/12/22 11:45 AM
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I don't have to imagine, it depresses me when random people shoot me dirty looks just because I am a male especially when I know they would be nice to me if I was a woman
/r/MensRights14/12/22 11:36 AM
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I admire your optimism, but I see this as an individual solution to a systemic/biological problem like I can make my life better right, I can get a better job or I can build a better physique - but all the achievements I make in my life, are completely insignificant compared to the oppression I face because of my gender I mean, men are literally a lesser slave class in our society - is some minor personal achievement going to change that or make me feel better about it?
/r/MensRights14/12/22 11:33 AM
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fucking over for her husband
/r/MensRights14/12/22 11:19 AM
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Suicide is final solution to a temporary problem some problems are final also like being a male - I KNOW my life will be always worse and I will always have to go against adversity only because I was born a male I can choose living that life, or suicide
/r/MensRights14/12/22 11:18 AM
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their value on the dating market is too low
/r/ExRedPill13/12/22 04:36 PM
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obviously they are not good enough when no women want them
/r/ExRedPill13/12/22 04:23 PM
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that's not a woman - it's a man with different hormones
/r/ExRedPill13/12/22 02:57 PM
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So here's the thing. Stats aren't a reasonable way to assess anything to do with how your life is and how it could be. For every stat you have showing me men have it worse, I can find one showing you that women have it worse. not really women have it worse in few select specific aspects, but men then dominate stats for who has it worse all across the board go out and actually experience the world I'd love to but as a male I need to become a nearly perfect individual in order to have a good exper…
/r/ExRedPill13/12/22 11:18 AM
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I lose fat, I build muscle, improve my physique - dos it matter? fuck no my body is still unattractive and invisible to women a woman needs her ass and she has insane sexual value I can never hope to match even if my physique were to be the best it can, I would not have a faction of the sexual value an average woman has one example
/r/ExRedPill13/12/22 09:50 AM
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only athletic male models (or close to it so like the top 10 or 20%)are sexually attractive to women rest of men have little to none sexual value, and women simply put up with their bodies and sexuality because they want something else from them
/r/ExRedPill13/12/22 09:45 AM
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everything I do to make my life better, is dwarfed by the insurmountable gender issues I face
/r/ExRedPill13/12/22 09:42 AM
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it only exposes natural female behavior same shit happens in real life, just with different numbers and percentages
/r/ExRedPill13/12/22 09:41 AM
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You only see one part of this. These relationships never last. The only attention they get is from desperate guys. attention = options men don't even have that Get your facts checked you get your facts checked re**rd open any statistic about assault and look I don't care what you had to do, when the stats say something else the fu*k is the point of this conversation when you dismiss stone cold data in favor of some feelings of some women? Every woman has different turn ons including how her part…
/r/ExRedPill13/12/22 09:41 AM
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That is a business and a business needs steady customers. It preys on low self esteem and desperation for sex, intimacy, etc. It can ruin self esteem of even the "high value guys" you seem to talk about. It will never help you find a partner as that means you ditch the app, not pay for premium. it exposes how much more value women have than men it exposes how little sexual value men have compared to women Short women exist too you know and not all of them want a 6' dude short women still want ta…
/r/ExRedPill13/12/22 09:19 AM
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why are you resorting to retarded examples? I don't care what some random guy did, there is plenty of hyper successful men, but they succeeded DESPITE being a male just like obama making it to president does not mean blacks don't face issues
/r/ExRedPill13/12/22 09:12 AM
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Nobody wants someone nihlistic to date. Man or woman. yeah nihilistic women don't seem to have a problem dating oh wait, no women seem to have a problem dating as literally all of them have multitude of options, often better than them Self esteem has nothing to do with dealbreakers. You can be in a relationship and still have self esteem issues. I have seen how it ended for a lot of people. It's ugly. tf are you talking about? It's not all good you know. They do have their own set of problems to…
/r/ExRedPill13/12/22 09:10 AM
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you'd have to give up people being nice to you, your easy dating life, the protecting from verbal and physical abuse, lesser prison sentences for the same crime and many others
/r/ExRedPill13/12/22 09:01 AM
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Women have had their lives ruined by partners leaving them after making them financially dependent but that is a direct result of their own decisions lol can't the same happen to a man? oh wait, men are expected by society to be the providers and be financially independent I missed the memo where it is said women have to rely on a man for money this is not the 1940s anymore, your point is entirely invalid Lots of women were sexually assaulted lots of men were sexually assaulted, you should check…
/r/ExRedPill13/12/22 09:00 AM
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just shows how blind and used to your privileges you are
/r/ExRedPill13/12/22 08:13 AM
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My words are respected more often by more people. only if you are in a high position, aka rich or the boss or the respected senior employee no-one fucking listens to men who have low value A 10/10 man will have an easier life than a 10/10 woman. nope, top female models are paid far more than top male models A 3 guy will have an easier life than a 3 woman. fuck no how did that even enter your head? a 3 guy is total trash to everybody, and can never hope to attract a woman a 3 woman gets all the s…
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 09:43 PM
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ignoring problems will not make them go away
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 09:39 PM
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You’re really wrong about all this shit no, not really, I'm not I'm pretty sure you are only misinformed because you ignore all the evidence that does not support your "women are super oppressed" worldview take a look at r/mensrights and educate yourself
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 09:35 PM
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Sure but reality does crash once the looks fade away with age, bad health choices, etc. no that's cope there is no "wall" - if a woman takes care of her looks, she will retain her value until very old age the wall is a redpill cope and is it supposed to console me that the insane value women gets just gets smaller after they get 40 years of it? while I have never had a day of such value?
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 09:34 PM
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almost all women can improve their looks to the point of having that privilege
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 09:32 PM
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Do not entertain the idiots who make you feel this way. all of society? everyone only matters as long as they have worth - it jus happens that women are born with worth, their very gender gives them worth Women have those insecurities too about their weight, figure, bust and butt size, etc. all of which they can work on, and none of which are such a brutal dealbreakers as the ones I mentioned for the men nothing has the same impact on women as being short as a male, having a small dick or being …
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 09:32 PM
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you don't know any better there is no objective upside to being a male
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 09:29 PM
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Now, when it comes to women treating women, you will see lots of bitchiness, lots of backstabbing, women treat other women so much better than they treat men With that said, if you want female attention and love, I suggest you to stop being such a clingy, whiny, ultra nice fella and treat them like persons, like a friend. idiotic take
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 09:29 PM
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just fucking lol you bleed and are in minor pain for a few days of the month, and in return you get infinite privileges
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 09:27 PM
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living my life, and realizing that women just have it far better? realizing that all my problems would just disappear if I was a woman? that my life would be better in pretty much every aspect
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 09:26 PM
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Anyways, they are still coming from the internet, from people who are maybe hurting as much as you and trying to find reasons that's bad logic, they are hurting but for many the first point was being hurt by some injustice against men man have had their lives ruined by the divorce court, many have faced false accusations etc and that has brought them to care about mens rights because unlike with female issues, people don't even know men face so many brutal issues unless personally affected Sure …
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 09:24 PM
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"Remember: Everything has cracks. That's how light gets in. I know this sounds weird, but your minor flaws actually make you more beautiful in the eyes of a loved one. Over time women will fall in love with your minor imperfections. It's sexy as hell that a guy who's seemingly Mr Right isn't perfect, because it reminds women of the common humanity you both share. You're another human being, in this world, who's exactly like her with similar hopes, needs and dreams. And that's relatable and creat…
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 09:17 PM
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stats and general sentiment online
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 06:57 PM
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you can't become a woman
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 06:48 PM
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You would have all these same problems even if you were a women except I would be able to date whenever I feel like it, I would be more accepted into social circles, my family would like me more, strangers would like me more, I would get lesser prison sentence for the same crime and the list goes on
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 06:48 PM
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the best a man can be still won't get a fraction of what a woman can
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 06:42 PM
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I would switch in a second almost every female can improve her looks to a point where her privilege will be massive
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 06:41 PM
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no I can't I don't have the time and effort to write out an explanation only for you to then to shoot it down with some retarded snarky reply you're free to think about it yourself, and if you need help, try searching "prison" in r/mensrights
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 05:26 PM
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that was only an example I can see how much more nicer people are to women in general, everywhere I go
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 05:25 PM
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just like I don't have a rigid bodily standard of beauty, so do most women don't. I've seen girls who literally fell for guys whom most other girls thought were unattractive I had never seen this, but I have seen women tear men down for the slightest imperfections OLD quickly tells you how much value you have to women - in concrete numbers And I've been friends with girls who literally teased me on my face due to my height and looks, I just cut off things with them all women (and men too) care a…
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 05:24 PM
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get out of "it" by becoming a top % male? because only such a male has a decent quality of life?
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 05:22 PM
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you are literally stupid, if you can't see how men receiving the brunt of police brutality and prison sentences is a gender issue that impacts me even if I'm not in prison right now
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 05:21 PM
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I can do things to improve my life, but I know that the things I want are forever out of reach due to my gender: a partner that desires me, cares for me, values me, people being nice to me, people valuing me I can make small improvements in my life, that just don't mean much because at the end of the day, I still will be an undesirable low value male does it really matter if I learn to cook a new meal? when noone will ever look at me as a sexual being and want to be with me?
/r/MensRights12/12/22 05:12 PM
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all progress I make, is rendered insignificant compared to the insurmountable gender issues progress in the gym? Still not getting any attention, any validation, I'm still not sexy because I am a male
/r/MensRights12/12/22 05:10 PM
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Look I'll just put it like this: I am, by just about any measure, an "average" man. In fact in a lot of measures I'm probably below average. I'm about average height (just under 6ft), but very underweight and a million miles from this buff sculpted body that we're told is the optimum. I don't make much money at all, never really have and don't care to make much more than whatever I need. I have a severe anxiety problem which has at times left me housebound. I might do fine socialising, but only …
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 05:05 PM
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so now it's entitlement to even want the same nice things women have by default as a male huh? soo entitled to even want a partner that is attracted to me, soo entitled to want to express myself without getting punished for it, soo entitled to not want to live in a misandrist society
/r/MensRights12/12/22 04:50 PM
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I'm not saying you're wrong, but it's not the same situation and I'm sure calling someone for "not being nice enough" to me will go well it's the little things, like the doctor being more friendly to a woman, the waiter, essentially everyone is always more friendly to women
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 04:48 PM
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missing out such good opportunities which life gives you like slaving away for years just so then I can continue providing for a woman who did not have to do any of that and will never return the favor? what good opportunities are you talking about? I don't see a way to win as a male the nature set the genders up in such a way, that women enjoy all the good things and men suffer
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 04:34 PM
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I don't see any real advice here there is no advice to be given what the fuck can I do lol? what can a organism that was born into the lesser gender fucking do? what can the male spider or bee do? hit the gym, and pull himself up the bootstraps? you can't go against biology
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 04:33 PM
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what do you want me to answer? that I'm going to k*ll myself or what? what the fuck else can I do lol? what can a organism that was born into the lesser gender fucking do? what can the male spider or bee do? hit the gym, and pull himself up the bootstraps? you can't go against biology
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 04:32 PM
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fucking be a man - not a whiny baby still smarting from junior high bullshit. Grow UP. yeah I doubt you would be saying this to a woman and just lol at implying I can fix systemic issues by "self improvement"
/r/MensRights12/12/22 04:30 PM
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no, not really even average and below average women are treated so much differently than men do the difference between ugly and pretty is nowhere near as big as the gap between male and female
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 04:26 PM
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I don't even think the issue is societal, I think it's biological and obviously society has formed around our biology it's jus a fact that men are the less valuable gender, just in many other species there is no solution, I lost when I was born into the slave gender
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 04:25 PM
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isn't this just a symptom of how worthless men are and how much value women have? like this is exactly what I'm talking about You should give it to YOUR girl when is she going to give me the same?
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 04:23 PM
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and this is what I'm talking about why blame everything on men? as if women were perfect angles with 0 agency in this? it's just as much their fault as it's men's fault, they form 50% of society
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 04:16 PM
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Society has hypersexualized everything everything except men men are utterly desexualized only value we have is our sexuality male sexuality has zero value, so I guess you're right, because the men themselves also have no value
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 04:15 PM
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and is that not a privilege? to have people be nice to you because you are pretty? I fucking wish I had that
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 04:11 PM
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therapy will not stop men getting treated like they are in the world it will not change the sexist laws, it will not change the fact men get less empathy
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 04:11 PM
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You talk about having no value, not even intrinsically. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but your speech sounds a lot (like exactly) like internet black pill speech. I think the first thing you should work on is to stop reading online black pill forums, and to stop believing everything they say as gospel. You'll probably dismiss my comment, and not listen to what I'm telling you, and that shows that you ARE able not to believe everything you see on the internet. So maybe you should start exercising some…
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 04:10 PM
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therapy does not change the fact it's just shit to be born a male
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 03:46 PM
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you're coping you are married to the idea of being a male, but when you compare the male life experience versus the female, there really isn't any advantage to the male one
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 03:43 PM
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I have wasted too much time in my life arguing with people who are clearly anti-men
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 03:42 PM
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the issue is societal, not in my mind
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 03:42 PM
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What value your looks have are nothing to do with gender Just incorrect an average woman has looks that attract men, she can get attention with them, she can get validation, she can even make money if I was a woman, I would be good looking, I mean, I think I'm pretty cute even right now, but does it matter? I am a male, and my looks, unless top tier male model, do not mean anything no-one is ever going to think I'm sexy, no-one is going to give me attention or validation because of how I look I …
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 03:41 PM
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I have never seen anyone treated like a cockroach before irl I am pretty fucking sure that I am getting treated way more coldly and seen way more negatively than if I was a woman I've seen random customer service (or whatever) people who were harsh to me be super friendly to a woman a few seconds later
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 03:29 PM
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I'm done having a conversation with you I won't waste my time disproving your most basic misinformed takes visit r/mensrights if you want to educate yourself on male issues and how your views are basically double standards on steroids
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 03:25 PM
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Who’s forcing you into a prison camp? What are you talking about? about the fact that a mother has a choice to keep a child or get rid of it but the father has no choice whether he will financially support or no how does he have bodily autonomy when he is forced into labor or prison? What do you mean “lowest place of society?” almost all homeless are men, all dangerous jobs are done by men, almost all prisoners are men yet you care that there aren't more female CEOs When did I say “men can’t hav…
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 03:06 PM
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Women literally don’t have control over their own bodies. do men have control over their bodies when they are forced into labor or prison with no choice? Women are massively under represented in every actual of power (political, economic, religious) everywhere in the world. interesting how you don't care how women are underrepresented at the lowest places of society as well Women in many non-western countries are oppressed to the point that they can be executed for not covering every inch of the…
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 02:55 PM
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I feel like the ultimate blackpill is the realization that you have lose the second you were born into the wrong gender, the male one I've always thought that I am unhappy because I am not a chad, but now I'm realizing that all the things chad has (normal dating life, people not treating him like a cockroach) are things almost all women have I had thought that I can overcome this by becoming a chad, but I'm realizing that even chad is still a male, and still faces all the realities that men face…
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 02:53 PM
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I'm just not good enough - in every metric the bar for a guy to be considered good looking is very high - tall, athletic near peak physique, perfect hair, near model face with little to no flaws, dick size above average etc... an average guy is not attractive at all, unlike the average woman, even a guy with a great physique and a normal face is not attractive only the few top % of men are attractive and they are still not "sexy" or "beautiful" they are just good looking enough to not be repulsi…
/r/MensRights12/12/22 08:12 AM
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lol quite a bit of difference between not being able to have a corporate job (due to own choices) and never having a partner that finds you sexually attractive no? I doubt you would be content with life if you would have never been able to express yourself or even engage with your sexuality to any degree telling men who can't find anyone who finds them attractive "that's just life" while always having had many people who have found you attractive is the peak of female privilege
/r/MensRights11/12/22 08:02 PM
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Who cares how women see you? I have to care because I seek to have romantic, sexual and platonic relationships with them We are all victims of something in society useless sentence, only purpose is to minimize and dismiss the pain of others You, having never been in the body of an obese teenager or a Black trans woman or a burn victim or a quadriplegic, can’t say much about your rejection except you haven’t met enough women implying that the vast majority men are attractive whatsoever? that they…
/r/MensRights11/12/22 07:28 PM
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the fact no woman has ever looked at me as a sexual prospect is not enough? the fact that literally everyone in my life would have treated me better and liked me more if I was a female is not enough? the fact my sexuality is considered disgusting and unwanted is not enough? imagine getting this treatment, to have such an integral part of yourself be considered worthless and revolting how would that make you feel? Try something I am trying but like I said, it will be years of grinding before wome…
/r/MensRights11/12/22 06:32 PM
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why do you pretend to be empathetic just to laugh in my face the next second? do you get off on this?
/r/MensRights11/12/22 06:22 PM
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You can’t get laid because your body isn’t perfect? Sad. Go walk around a wal-mart and see all of the bodies in all of the shapes and sizes in couples and I bet a lot of the men and women are affectionate and getting laid. that's just your privilege blinging you there's a difference between "getting laid" and actually being found sexually attractive and desired it is not something you've ever struggled with, but for many men it will simply never happen like I said, only a physique that is very l…
/r/MensRights11/12/22 06:16 PM
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I don’t tie my own value to anything other than my performance against my own personal moral compass and my personal, financial, sexual, fitness, health, and learning goals what if the personal and sexual categories are always in a trash state because it's pretty much a nightmare to improve those as a male? like I said, men have little to no sexual value - so all of my future sex life I will be the one who is desired less, who has to pay for sexual encounters, or has to somehow create these ridi…
/r/MensRights11/12/22 05:09 PM
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rest of us muddle along understanding that “most women” were raised with toxic misandry I don't think that's true when people aren't even capable of admitting men have real problems and when I talk about the problems of men, I just get hate everyone is on board with the idea that misogynic exists, and by now we have a term for almost everything, but men are systematically gaslight that their issues are not real and that they don't matter the "I don't give a fuck" attitude from women is prevalent…
/r/MensRights11/12/22 04:19 PM
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If you require to be sexually turned on by women, how is it that men are able to masturbate? Are they only doing that mechanically? Also, it isn't unheard of for a person to be thinking about someone else whilst having sex with a different person. are you autistic or something? How do you not understand that fucking the person you're actually attracted to is a whole another experience? men don't fuck other men because they simply don't want to, sure a part of it is societal, but a lot of it is n…
/r/MensRights11/12/22 12:48 PM
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wow it's almost as if men were a group of individuals differing in opinion
/r/MensRights11/12/22 01:23 AM
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but what about arousal lol? straight men are just not sexually turned on by other men sure they can do it mechanically, but that is a far cry from actually having sex with your preferred gender
/r/MensRights11/12/22 01:19 AM
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it was just the introduction at the time I didn't realize it, but thinking back, I'm sure they would have no probkems with me if I was a woman my mother would love me more if I was a woman, my family would accept me more, random strangers would not be giving me dirty looks, socializing would be far easier it's all indicative that men have little or no value
/r/MensRights10/12/22 08:05 PM
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it's enough to say "all" and "everyone" so what if there is a tiny % of people who thinks differently? won't have impact on my life as a male
/r/MensRights10/12/22 07:49 PM
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hah, people don't care about violence on men even IRL
/r/MensRights10/12/22 06:23 PM
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no-one is listening because no-one cares. men simply have no value in todays society. men who have any kind of a problem = losers, and loser don't have value and don't get emapthy
/r/MensRights10/12/22 06:22 PM
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well feel free to go on a reddit wide tirade, because men get killed, beaten, assaulted, or simply harmed in some physical way, in nearly every other movie often played for laughs too
/r/MensRights10/12/22 05:56 PM
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I had all the teachers throughout all the lower levels of education (so read female teachers) treat me like trash, and now I hate myself it was made early and clearly to me that men are worthless second class citizens
/r/MensRights10/12/22 04:59 PM
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When questioned on how he made Gordon Ramsay cry, Marco Pierre White denies the allegation. “No I didn't make Gordon Ramsay cry,” he says. “He made himself cry. That was his choice to cry”. it's cope
/r/MensRights10/12/22 04:38 PM
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sexual pleasure is important to most men, but a woman isn't the only path to sexual fulfilment (you can explore your own erotic potential as well as have sex with men in theory) your advice falls apart here what if you're just straight lol? this is the center of the issue, straight men don't have a choice other than a woman when it comes to romance and sexuality
/r/MensRights10/12/22 04:38 PM
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I highly doubt you'd respond the same if the violence was committed on women
/r/MensRights10/12/22 04:32 PM
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Black and brown women are building an army to take down Karen and her bullshit white lady entitlement and sweetness. Join in. black and brown women are just as sexist as white women or asian women all women are sexist towards men in million ways they will never see or let alone admit
/r/MensRights10/12/22 04:30 PM
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thanks for outright confirming the insane female privilege btw
/r/MensRights09/12/22 02:54 PM
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your "advice" is downright illogical and also misandrist, which is why you got downvoted classic feminist hypocrisy
/r/MensRights09/12/22 02:30 PM
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?
/r/MensRights09/12/22 02:27 PM
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what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul
/r/MensRights09/12/22 12:21 AM
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