I hate being a male

squirrelscrush · 2022-12-12T14:50:00+00:00

Bro is really blackpilled, go off the internet for a few weeks

spiraldinosaur · 2022-12-12T15:14:19+00:00

I hate that my body and my looks have no value

What value your looks have are nothing to do with gender. Plenty of women feel the same, and plenty of women also hate that their looks are often the only thing about them that people value. What value your looks have will depend on what value you put on them yourself, and the people who you surround yourself with. What value are you hoping your looks and body can have?

I hate that I have no intrinsic worth, and always be expected to provide something

Your "worth" again is defined by yourself and the people around you. And yes, people will value you based on what you give them, but that can be an entire spectrum of things. You can have worth because you're funny, or a good listener, or empathetic, or talented, or anything else. It is not purely tied to being able to provide material things. But are we not all valued on what we "provide"? A beautiful woman might have her worth tied to her looks. A rich man might have his worth tied to his wallet. A scientist might have their worth tied to their intelligence. In all cases, for everyone, what value people tie to you is down to what benefit you bring to their life.

I hate that I can never be weak or have problems, and the second I do, I am worthless

That's total bullshit. Like I can't explain how bullshit that is. It is expected that you will have problems, because you're a person and you're alive and life comes with problems. To me, the absolute height of masculinity is being able to show weakness and vulnerability at the right times, and I can comfortably say that one of the ways I've managed to have healthy relationships with women is because I don't push down my feelings in some toxic stoic manner. I have problems, I have moments of vulnerability, and I process them in healthy ways. I cry, I get therapy, I talk about my issues. All the women I've been around have appreciated that. Some women will say you're not a real man if you cry. Fuck 'em. Don't waste your time on them.

I hate that there is no safety net or second chance for men, if I fail in life, I will have to rot on the street

You're right. Nor is there a safety net for women. That's a fundamental issue in how countries treat their people and don't provide social support that should be available to all as a right.

I hate that I get blamed for everything, even for things I have no control over

No idea what you're talking about here sorry.

I hate that there are so many genetic blows I as a male have to deal with like baldness, height, dick size, the size of my skeleton, the list goes on

And women have to deal with periods, menopause, PCOS, endometriosis, and being rated based on their weight, their boobs, the shape of their vulva...it's not a one sided struggle here at all. I'd much rather deal with baldness as a man than as a woman, wouldn't you?

I hate that I have to fit in a super narrow type of a personality, extroverted, charismatic, funny if I want to have success with women

Not true at all. You have to fit into some super narrow type if you want to have success with a very narrow type of woman. You need to remember that women are just as diverse as anything else. They all want something different. Some want a guy who's so confident it's narcissism. Some women like the quieter guys who are more thoughtful. Some like the funny guy who's a bit of a clown, some like the guy who's a hardcore political activist. There is no one-size-fits-all. It's all about getting to know yourself and figuring out who you are compatible with.

I hate how it's considered totally okay to expect a male to change everything about himself if he wants to have relationships with women

It's not considered totally OK at all, but it is expected that someone who isn't in a good place will have to work on themselves to have a healthy relationship, men and women the same. You do not have to change yourself entirely to have relationships. It's a good idea to get yourself into a healthy mindset sure, but the only way you can have a healthy relationship is by finding someone who likes you for who you are, not someone who likes you when you're pretending to be someone else.

I hate that I am a second class citizen in society, always worth less than if I was a woman

I don't even know where to start with this one, that's a long conversation.

I hate that male lives have so little worth that their deaths barely get reported in the news

Lots of people die without it breaking on the news. I wouldn't assume that's gender based.

and I hate that everything I achieve, I achieve despite being a male

Again, too much to talk about there.

there's fucking nothing good about being a male, there's not a single advantage

What do you want? Why do you want an "advantage"? This is life. We all have to face difficulties and challenges. We all face some level of gender based discrimination, and I'm not going to start an argument about who has it worse. Instead, you need to figure out what YOUR problems are and what you can do to solve them, rather than complaining about how hard it is to be a man. This "woe is me" attitude isn't making your life better.

Stop watching whatever nasty red pill/black pill/manosphere shit you're feeding on. Stop listening to these "self improvement" resources that are clearly not helping. Get a therapist and figure it out.

FellasImSorry · 2022-12-12T14:53:17+00:00

All this is such horseshit.

Women literally don’t have control over their own bodies in the US.

Women are massively under represented in every actual Avenue of power (political, economic, religious) everywhere in the world.

Women in many non-western countries are oppressed to the point that they can be executed for not covering every inch of their flesh in public.

Women (and girls) can’t walk down the street without being harassed.

I don’t think I know a single woman who hasn’t been sexually assaulted or harassed at work.

Almost all inter-sex murders are men murdering women.

It must suck to not be able to get in a relationship, but open your eyes man.

ColorMePoorly · 2022-12-12T15:46:00+00:00

I see that you're hurting, a lot. I'm sorry for you, that sucks. But also, you're talking in absolutes here, and I'm pretty sire if there is only one truth in this world, is that pretty much nothing is absolute.

You seem to hate a lot of things about yourself, and that's shitty. I hope that you will eventually you will be able to accept some of the things about yourself.

You talk about having no value, not even intrinsically. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but your speech sounds a lot (like exactly) like internet black pill speech. I think the first thing you should work on is to stop reading online black pill forums, and to stop believing everything they say as gospel. You'll probably dismiss my comment, and not listen to what I'm telling you, and that shows that you ARE able not to believe everything you see on the internet. So maybe you should start exercising some skepticism towards internet black pill mentality. And maybe you'll accept that we all have intrinsic value that no one can take from us. Maybe you'll grow some confidence and love from that realization

You also talk about specific problems regarding being a man in our society. I get it, it sucks for a lot of reasons. I won't compare your struggles to women's struggles. I genuinely think that we should stop trying comparing the two. We both have struggles, some are similar and some are different. We can listen to other people's struggles and become more empathetic towards them without throwing our own struggles in the mix. I also don't believe men have it more difficult than women. I think it's pointless to try to compare. Every single human beings are struggling, some more than others, but it's definitely not gendered. There are healthy ways to talk about your struggles than in internet black pill forums. Maybe here is one of good places to talk about them, because you'll get a conversation going, as long as you're willing to accept what others have to tell you .

I hope you'll read that and give it a thought.

SweelFor- · 2022-12-12T16:54:06+00:00

When will you be calling a therapist?

Excellent-Track-7467 · 2022-12-12T17:44:02+00:00

No cap this has motivated me so hard i shall become the best a man can be. Thanks for waking me up

Q-9 · 2022-12-12T17:43:35+00:00

I'd rather be born male. Wanna switch with me?

softnmushy · 2022-12-12T18:13:01+00:00

Your problems have nothing to do with you being male.

Your problems come from having mental health issues (depression, etc.), being poor in a highly capitalist society, and being born at a time when the internet overwhelms us with information and pushes us into echo chambers full of false information.

You would have all these same problems even if you were a women. The only difference is that you would probably be blaming different people for your problems.

Life is really hard right now for all of us. It's not easy for anyone unless you're rich. And even some rich people are pretty crazy.

ShelterImpossible370 · 2022-12-12T19:08:09+00:00

One thing you should try, is a one month without social media (excl. contact with your irl people) challenge. Worst case scenario, nothing will change. But perhaps your life will become somewhat better - I know it has been said everywhere a million times, but most of the things on the internet are bullshit, and most content creators are not exactly trustworthy people. If it makes you feel any better, I will probably do it myself in january, just because I'm tired of it.

vb2509 · 2022-12-12T19:44:39+00:00

Please read something healthy instead of the pill and incel forums.

I hate that I can never be weak or have problems, and the second I do, I am worthless

Do not entertain the idiots who make you feel this way.

I hate that there are so many genetic blows I as a male have to deal with like baldness, height, dick size, the size of my skeleton, the list goes on

Grass always looks greener on the other side. Women have those insecurities too about their weight, figure, bust and butt size, etc.

You look like you could use some rest. I know it's hard, it probably even hurts you physically. But please be nicer to yourself. You are not doing any good to yourself with this hate. It's like cutting yourself emotionally. Trust me I have done similar things for a year.

Whatever you do, DO NOT lose faith in yourself man! You got this!

tom5osqb · 2022-12-12T15:34:15+00:00

You need to go outside and touch grass. Breathe in some air. Relax, bro!

GET OFFLINE! All modern media, including social media, were created to make women feel like they run the world.

I don't care how easy the path of a beautiful woman is. I would NEVER give up being a man for any of it.

Intelligent_Expert10 · 2022-12-12T15:38:49+00:00

Therapy

No_Childhood_3528 · 2022-12-12T21:44:25+00:00

I agree, its harder to be a male but if you beat all the odds and reach maybe top 5 percent than its will be worth it.. top percent men have it better than women and maybe reaching there is easier as a male

Otherwise just transition to female or smth dunno

Naus1987 · 2022-12-12T19:41:34+00:00

I’m glad I’m a guy. Basically none of those problems matter to me. It’s like being mad you’re a human, because you don’t have blue skin. It just doesn’t matter.

Livid-Team5045 · 2022-12-12T22:08:45+00:00

At least you don't have to constantly be worried about someone killing, raping or harrassing you for your gender. Geesh this is the biggest pity party I've seen in a long while and let me guess...you're white.

Title	I hate being a male
Author	tom5osqb
Upvotes	0
Comments	155
Date	December 12, 2022 2:44 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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