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What would she have to have experienced that would be truly despicable? Do you feel like she deserved it? Why do you hate women?
/r/ExRedPill14/04/24 09:10 PM
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I've said this a few times. My end point with it though is usually that whether or not evolutionary psychology is real or total quackery is pointless. The majority of guys who are watching these evoshite videos are there for help with dating, and it absolutely will not help you with dating. Nor will learning regular psychology, sociology, any sort of statistics, or really any science at all. It's utterly pointless. It doesn't help to know that "60% of men do this" or "80% of women prefer this" o…
/r/ExRedPill06/04/24 09:52 PM
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My last GF earned double what I do and she wore the pants in the relationship, but I think that might be more about her being a control freak as a person. Now, I think to myself "I could never date a woman who earns more than me" because I'd feel inferior and worry about the power balance. The only thing that allows such a power balance to exist is the dynamic you create between the two of you through your own personalities, and that has nothing to do with how much money you each earn beyond how…
/r/ExRedPill02/04/24 10:03 AM
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So why won't they just say what they're actually attracted to? Nobody's gonna chastise them for it. Many of them do, but most guys are too busy watching incel groups and red pill channels or cherry picking those examples of women saying they only want tall men to notice all the women saying other things they like. But also many women will say they like a guy who is 6ft for the same reason many men will say they like women with double-D boobs; neither of them actually know what it means, it's jus…
/r/ExRedPill01/04/24 02:43 PM
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Firstly, stop following that account. Do anything you can to make sure you never see that account or anything connected to it. If this sort of thing is coming up in your social feed, you need a proper reset of your social account to get rid of it. It is doing nothing for you. Block this account, block any account that follows this account, any account that retweets it. It is poison. Secondly, let's actually review this "evidence". There are 3 critical things to consider with this graph We have n…
/r/ExRedPill29/03/24 09:50 PM
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Stop trying to dodge responsibility. You are actively putting red pill content in front of people who are struggling with what the red pill has done to them. There are people on this sub who are working to get away from this content, there are people on here who find themselves repeatedly drawn to it despite the damage it does to them. People sign up to this sub specifically because they want to get help with getting away from this content and with learning how to undo these thought patterns. Wh…
/r/ExRedPill26/03/24 06:05 PM
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You're giving drugs to drug addicts to show them how bad drugs are. Do you really think that's going to work? You should delete this post.
/r/ExRedPill26/03/24 05:15 PM
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Why?
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 07:47 AM
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But that's not what the red pill teaches. The red pill teaches that women want this very specific definition of a man, with very specific definitions of appearance, with a focus on wealth, status, and that women choose men based on all of these competitive factors. But they don't. It actively talks a lot about how to become the kind of man that many, maybe most women, don't actually desire at all. Most women do not like Andrew Tate. Most women do not like Fresh & Fit, or any of these other cunts…
/r/ExRedPill17/03/24 09:58 PM
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But if the woman is your first choice, how is she average? Surely she's the best possible choice?
/r/ExRedPill17/03/24 09:55 PM
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Is an "average woman" a man's first choice? is an "average woman" your first choice?
/r/ExRedPill17/03/24 09:19 PM
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In my experience, when someone is overconfident or even narcissistic, it's often hard to tell until it's too late. I've met plenty of people who just seemed interesting, fun, exciting, like they had things going on, and that made them seem appealing to be around. Then they start having their demands and requests from you and you think sure, I'll get involved in your life, I'll be part of that, it sounds exciting. By the time you notice that you're doing a lot for them and getting nothing in retu…
/r/ExRedPill15/03/24 03:23 PM
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It doesn't. You're searching for a fish in a desert. You've found one of the many, many contradictions within red pill rhetoric.
/r/ExRedPill10/03/24 02:21 PM
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I would spend some time finding out whether this is actually true, or whether it's something you've perceived, or have only seen through your selective feed/confirmation bias. I doubt it's actually as unbalanced as you might think it is.
/r/ExRedPill06/03/24 01:15 PM
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Do you have any actual concrete examples of this? And do you have actual concrete examples of how men hold each other accountable?
/r/ExRedPill06/03/24 10:43 AM
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If you're watching videos of street interviews, pick up artists, anything like that, you simply have to acknowledge that they are very selective with who they approach and who they share on the channel. I'll bet you anyone's money that they got answers that contradict that sentiment but chose not to include them.
/r/ExRedPill05/03/24 09:12 AM
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Find better friends Be someone who's company is valuable enough that it's worth them putting in the effort, just as you wouldn't put in the effort for someone who doesn't bring any joy into your life It's a two way street, you've got to be worth the effort, and you've got to make the effort for people who are worth it. Gender is irrelevant here.
/r/ExRedPill29/02/24 03:16 PM
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The man's got 116 subscribers. There's no need for any of us to be thinking about him. He just needs a hug and some therapy. Just ignore him. If you don't want to be him then don't. You've just been able to describe what he's doing wrong and reflected on your own past mistakes. So do what you need to do to not be like him. It's simple.
/r/ExRedPill29/02/24 10:18 AM
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Let's just review that; you were planning on giving up your life goals to maintain some bizarre social status quo that says that women shouldn't earn as much money as men. Does that honestly seem rational to you? Lots of relationships work just fine with women earning more than men. It's not an issue unless he's some kind of misogynistic 1950s throwback who thinks a woman's place is the kitchen, not the workplace. Go chase your dreams, nobody wants you to make yourself smaller for their sake. An…
/r/ExRedPill26/02/24 08:33 AM
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Whatever it is, it's a shit boyfriend trait.
/r/ExRedPill23/02/24 08:55 PM
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Even a broken clock is right twice a day. There's certainly some advice within some red pill videos that will be useful for some men, and there is also plenty within there that will just be really general advice that's useful to anyone. Looking after your body by staying hydrated and working out is a good idea; living at home for as long as possible, not getting a job, not showering regularly are all bad ideas. It's all common sense. But as you say, they start to get into this "alpha" and "beta"…
/r/ExRedPill22/02/24 10:39 PM
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Look at it like politics; most people are leaning left or right. There's maybe a majority one way or the other depending on where you're looking, and most people won't step to the other side on pretty much any issue. There are some who are extremely one way or the other, but there are also those who are more towards the middle, and some who do spread across both sides depending on the issue at hand. Red pill is a mentality that basically espouses conservative ideas of gender (and generally conse…
/r/ExRedPill22/02/24 09:46 PM
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Is sending a woman money the only way you can imagine making a woman's life better? Is sending compliments the only way you can imagine proving yourself as worthwhile to a woman? What about just actually being a nice person who's good to be around? How about being someone who actually wants to form a connection with a woman rather than just wanting to get laid? What about being someone who's funny, kind, interesting, intelligent? All of these things are valued by other people, and simply being a…
/r/ExRedPill22/02/24 01:01 PM
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Women - like all humans - are complex. There is no one-size-fits-all when it comes to what women find attractive, what turns them on. What matters is how your behaviour impacts how they feel, that will ultimately decide if they want to continue engaging with you or not. hundreds of women what I have interacted with, not one had raised interest if I gave her more attention, more compliments No amount of attention and compliments are going to interest a woman who isn't interested in you in the fir…
/r/ExRedPill22/02/24 11:26 AM
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That's pretty much it. Sure, some women will care about how tall you are. But most women are more turned off by how a guy feels about his own height than how tall he actually is.
/r/ExRedPill22/02/24 09:58 AM
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My more feminine traits have definitely been my biggest selling point when it comes to dating women. So you can cross that bullshit off your list.
/r/ExRedPill21/02/24 02:09 PM
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I got 9 seconds in before I realised this is actually just another one of those red pill accounts that pretends that it isn't red pill. It's all peddling the same bullshit.
/r/ExRedPill21/02/24 02:08 PM
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You say you see this evidence, but you don't see that evidence. Where are you actually looking? What's your frame of reference?
/r/ExRedPill18/02/24 09:46 PM
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Well Napoleon complex is literally a condition associated with shorter people, and we've seen plenty of examples on here of shorter men feeling a lack of confidence because of their height. I'm not saying that's why shorter men have less success dating. I'm saying those could be reasons. I'm speaking hypothetically to highlight that having some statistics about height and dating prospects is irrelevant without understanding the wider context and understanding the individual and the long list of …
/r/ExRedPill18/02/24 06:32 PM
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They were just examples of other problems they might have that prevent them from succeeding in dating situations. Like for some it may also be about circumstance such as living in an area where there aren't many other people, or that they have some past trauma that makes dating difficult. But something like a napoleon complex or confidence problems are things more likely to affect shorter people, hence those could be reasons why some shorter people specifically might be less successful in dating…
/r/ExRedPill18/02/24 06:21 PM
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my point is, why should the data, or a survey actually matter to you? You are one person, and you are looking to date (typically) one person. If I do a huge survey and find out that 60% of short men have a hard time dating, there's 2 things to take away from that. Correlation is not causation. Just because a majority of short men have a hard time dating, does not mean that being short makes dating hard. Perhaps their height causes issues with their self confidence, perhaps the issue isn't their …
/r/ExRedPill18/02/24 03:18 PM
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That's an accurate analogy too, because some women will actually base their dating decision on a guy's star sign, and some will just joke about it, and some won't even think about it. Because, y'know, women have their own minds.
/r/ExRedPill18/02/24 10:58 AM
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Why?
/r/ExRedPill18/02/24 10:57 AM
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No, but does it matter?
/r/ExRedPill17/02/24 10:35 PM
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This is something I often think about when people resort to victim blaming when they talk about victims of sexual assault or rape. When I hear someone saying "She should have been more careful, she shouldn't have gotten so drunk, there was bound to be consequences" etc, what they are essentially implying is that men can't help themselves. It's not a man's fault if a woman is incapacitated and vulnerable, he'll just do what is expected because men only have ancient animal brains and have absolute…
/r/ExRedPill15/02/24 09:30 AM
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This is a great post, it's so healthy and aware. I dunno who would be calling you names for having friends, but they're not people who deserve your attention anyway. The red pill talks about women like commodities, like objects, like status symbols, or like some alien species that's entirely different to men. But of course when you get to be friends with women you realise - shockingly - they're actually just people. You're absolutely right; you cannot form healthy relationships with women if you…
/r/ExRedPill10/02/24 09:55 AM
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So are you actually physically unattractive, or is this just something the red pill has made you believe?
/r/ExRedPill09/02/24 03:27 PM
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Did you think you were physically unattractive before you took the red pill?
/r/ExRedPill09/02/24 11:36 AM
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Nobody is born naturally bigoted, it is a learned behaviour. Sure, some people may be more inclined to it than others, but watch young children play together and you'll see they have no concept of race, gender, ability, or anything like that. This is all stuff that we learn as we grow up. It's likely that while the man you were speaking to grew up learning to be respectful of women, he was still also living in an environment that harboured systemic misogyny. Like if he grew up in a country where…
/r/ExRedPill06/02/24 10:07 AM
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You can prove literally anything to be true if you're extremely selective about the data you use. Redpillers will always be able to prove that women only want a tall rich man if they only ever listen to women who want tall rich men. They will always be able to prove that women are cheaters if they go out looking for women who cheat. Yes, there are cases where everything that redpillers say rings completely true. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. And I think that's partly why this stuff i…
/r/ExRedPill02/02/24 10:12 AM
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I'm sure they actually are. And I'm sure the consequences are dire. Do yourself a favour and unfollow whichever account that was coming from. If this stuff is coming up on your suggestions or on your search tab or something, do yourself a favour and delete your account and start again. Make a list of people you want to stay connected with and maybe write to them in advance/reconnect with them on your new account. Just clean up your feed (generally, not just with Instagram).
/r/ExRedPill21/01/24 07:01 PM
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Men who specifically want virgins are either some kind of religious fundamentalist, some pseudo-pedophile creep, or both. Any man who thinks that a woman having a tiny bit of sexual history makes her somewhat less appealing than if she was "pure" has an extremely warped idea of how sex alters the value of a woman, and thus generally has a warped idea of the value of women and probably doesn't see them as autonomous people, but sees them as some kind of commodity which can be spoiled or damaged b…
/r/ExRedPill18/01/24 09:32 AM
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You're massively overestimating that "mostly" and you're massively overestimating the value of physical attractiveness. couples that are not actually attracted to each other, good for them I guess What makes you think they're not attracted to each other?
/r/ExRedPill16/01/24 09:16 AM
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Why do you care about what other men think? Nah, beauty is mostly objective. That's why people talk about "conventional attractiveness" You realise there's a contradiction there right? "conventional" attractiveness implies attractiveness outside of the convention. Meaning that not everyone agrees on what is attractive. And we can see that very clearly by just looking at normal, regular people and their relationships.
/r/ExRedPill15/01/24 09:59 PM
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this is why being Good looking is superior imo In your opinion maybe. But your opinion contradicts the opinions of many - maybe even most - women out there. And even when it doesn't, the definition of "good looking" is probably very different - or at least a lot broader - than you think it is.
/r/ExRedPill15/01/24 09:44 PM
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I also know lots of women who are racist homophobic assholes, and they are extremely successful with men beacuse they're hot. I also know lots of men and women who aren't racist homophobic sexist assholes, and they do perfectly well with dating because they're good people who are nice to be around and they make other people's lives better with their company. Every scale of the spectrum has men and women, and they'll all date each other. Narcissists attract other narcissists. Racists attract othe…
/r/ExRedPill15/01/24 09:41 PM
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Like when I’m on apps I can’t match with average women. If a woman looks like she’s a healthy body weight or has good skin or good pictures, I swipe left. I know that it’s unrealistic to think I have a shot with her. When I come across women who are just objectively conventionally unattractive I swipe right, yet. Can’t get any matches with them. This is one of the dumbest paragraphs I've read on this sub, and that's really saying something. So you're intentionally swiping right only on women you…
/r/ExRedPill15/01/24 09:05 PM
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No it isn't. Getting into fights isn't social interaction, it's conflict. Social interactions make us feel good, this does not. You need to alter your lifestyle so that you have social interactions that are actually enjoyable and good for your mental health.
/r/ExRedPill15/01/24 09:24 AM
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What makes you think you're not capable?
/r/ExRedPill15/01/24 09:23 AM
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Did you actually follow up after "hmm no haha"? Did you suggest an alternative? Did you ask if she prefered something else? Or did you just flip out and assume that everything is terrible because of one message that didn't follow the pattern of all the other messages before?
/r/ExRedPill14/01/24 05:16 PM
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Sure
/r/ExRedPill14/01/24 05:08 PM
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My dude, are you just here to find reasons to get angry today? Do you maybe need some time away from Reddit? Getting into fights on here isn't going to make your day better.
/r/ExRedPill14/01/24 04:08 PM
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It's not a loss of judgement, it's a widening of your perception beyond some narrow, shallow physical bandwidth. More than a few times I've met someone who I didn't find so physically attractive, but over time I grew to know them and grew to love them and that physical attraction grew too. It meant my perception of them, my understanding of them was far deeper, far more than one dimensional.
/r/ExRedPill14/01/24 04:06 PM
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Yes love is real. I've been in love many times and I know what it feels like, and I know it is everything but shallow. I could say that love is the primative spark of attraction, just developed over time into something stronger, and typically based on much more than simple physical attraction. I could say that it's a biological phenomenon that we developed in our evolution to help strengthen social/familial bonds that improved the probability of our genes being passed on; a couple that love each…
/r/ExRedPill14/01/24 04:04 PM
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Dunno and it doesn't matter. Generally just don't listen to the advice from red pillers. I mean, by all means get a dog if you have the space for one in your life, but a dog is not a replacement for human companionship. If anything, having a dog can be an amazingly easy way to meet new people. A friend of mine said he found a lot of women absolutely loved seeing him with his dogs on their pink leashes. I mean who doesn't love dogs??
/r/ExRedPill12/01/24 07:26 PM
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This book does the exact opposite of "realistic perspectives"; this book is full of trash. Do yourself a favour and throw it away, and avoid any "female equivelant" because that can only be utter trash too.
/r/ExRedPill11/01/24 08:33 PM
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The vast, vast majority of women are not like what the red pill says women are like. So go out there, meet women, and find out for yourself. You are as capable as anyone else of judging whether the person you're getting to know is someone you connect with, or whether they are not good for you. Try to get all the red pill stuff out of your mind and just go about your life and meet women the way anyone would; through social circles, through activities, school/college/work, online dating etc. Meet …
/r/ExRedPill09/01/24 10:30 PM
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Fussy woman complains about being fussy. My god she sounds miserable and entitled. Basically blaming men for their height or their hairline. Get a grip woman, go date yourself a short king and get on with your life. But yea, the most important thing here is the comments; this woman's opinion does not reflect the opinions of probably the majority of women out there. Sidenote: Mumsnet is a horrible place and there are actually plenty of women like her on there. And also transphobes. Lots and lots …
/r/ExRedPill09/01/24 01:10 PM
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Narrow it down a bit, which laws regarding divorce and division of marital assets? What does the law say?
/r/ExRedPill18/12/23 07:45 PM
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Which laws are you talking about?
/r/ExRedPill17/12/23 10:18 PM
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it doesn't feel like there's anything I can do to prevent it The way you prevent it is by not dating men who are so predatory that they would date a 20 year old when they're in their 40s. You prevent it by dating men who are emotionally available enough that they can actually form a bond that goes so much deeper than how someone looks. These are just generally terrible men who are incapable of valuing other people above themselves, and that's the result. But they are not representative of all me…
/r/ExRedPill13/12/23 10:17 AM
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That's not the way at all. It's not about "approaching women". You don't need to "approach women", you need to meet people - including women - and develop your social skills. The same social skills that go into meeting men also go into meeting women, so you don't need some gendered approach towards meeting women that's any different. Stop thinking of women like they're some different species or like a puzzle you have to solve with skills and technique. Just think of them like people, go out and …
/r/ExRedPill12/12/23 08:43 PM
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As always; if you want to get a girlfriend, if you want to improve your social life and your prospects in that area, don't listen to anyone who wants to talk about studies on this sort of thing. None of it will help. It doesn't matter what "pill" they might be on. You don't need stats and data and studies to figure out how to develop a bond with a person. You need practice. Turn off YouTube, go find something to do outside, spend some time with some people and practice.
/r/ExRedPill11/12/23 10:53 PM
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I also had a look at the rest of the channel and it's just full of more red pill content. So I'd still avoid it like the plague. Just because something is critical of the red pill doesn't mean that it is not also pushing red pill messages.
/r/ExRedPill11/12/23 01:49 PM
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It's what I believe though. And I'm confident in that belief. I can call that if I want to. Are you actually here for a discussion or are you just trying to get clicks on a video?
/r/ExRedPill11/12/23 12:07 PM
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Sure, but I feel pretty confident that most people will say the same.
/r/ExRedPill11/12/23 09:59 AM
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Well it does because it's a 3 hour video and nobody is going to watch that.
/r/ExRedPill11/12/23 09:46 AM
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I definitely don't have almost 3 hours to watch a video explaining something we already know. Red pillers are not scientists, they don't understand science, they just cherry pick lines from studies they didn't even read to make points that always contradict themselves. It doesn't take 3 hours to say that.
/r/ExRedPill11/12/23 09:38 AM
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But it's not settling to not get your preference, because it's pretty much impossible to find a "perfect" match who ticks every preference anyone might have. She might instead meet a tall guy, but maybe she also has a preference for a guy who likes to cook, and he doesn't do that. Or maybe she likes a guy who's a musician, or a guy with dark hair and glasses, or a guy who's a feminist, or a guy who's good with kids, or a guy who has a dark sense of humour...and so on and so on. It's likely she -…
/r/ExRedPill10/12/23 11:15 AM
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Sure, they might lust after a male stripper like that, but are they looking to go home with him, have a relationship with him, or anything else? Or is he just a piece of entertainment for the night? Turn it around the other way. Men watch porn, go to strip clubs, are they also looking to date a porn star? Would you date a stripper? Does a stripper get your "full attraction"? Or do you also look for other values in a woman that you would actually want to date? But what you also need to understand…
/r/ExRedPill10/12/23 11:06 AM
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Well, yes? The clue is in the name, "physically" attractive is about how you look, not how you act. So you can look physically attractive regardless of your actions.
/r/ExRedPill10/12/23 10:55 AM
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Why do you think you're ugly? And where are women saying they don't find someone in shape attractive?
/r/ExRedPill10/12/23 10:54 AM
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You need to stop thinking about "how to be better with women" and just "how to be better with people". Stop worrying about how to date and flirt, and focus on how to join conversations, hold conversations, how to listen, how to be more present. It's all the same. And the way you learn that is by, well, doing it. You have to do things that get you meeting new people - regardless of gender - on a regular basis. Maybe take a volunteering role, or a job where you have to interact with customers. Fin…
/r/ExRedPill09/12/23 12:11 PM
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And how much do you prioritise those qualities? Like have you previously found yourself attracted to/dated guys who didn't look like that?
/r/ExRedPill08/12/23 09:03 AM
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Oh absolutely, it is so much more about who you are, how you act, how you talk, how you treat other people, than it is about how you look.
/r/ExRedPill08/12/23 09:02 AM
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Why ungrateful? She never expected him to spend all his time in the gym, she never asked for it, she doesn't owe any gratefulness for it. She can still appreciate him - and appreciate his body - without having to somehow be thankful for him doing the work she never asked for. Quite frankly, if you're going to the gym so that women will be grateful for you doing the work, you're going for all the wrong reasons.
/r/ExRedPill07/12/23 09:08 PM
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Right, everyone has their preferences, and that's fine. I feel like RP makes it out that these preferences are total deal breakers and women will never want to date a guy who's under 6 foot or whatever. Even with women who typically prefer a guy over 6ft, I reckon most would take a short guy who is nice to be around over a tall narcissist or whatever.
/r/ExRedPill07/12/23 09:06 PM
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Exactly. Imagine if RP put as much focus into their mentality and behaviour as they do into looks when they talk about "self improvement". We'd all be living much happier.
/r/ExRedPill07/12/23 09:03 PM
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As one of my former hook-ups put it; "you're lucky I'm into heroin chic." Not the most flattering way of putting it but we still banged.
/r/ExRedPill07/12/23 09:02 PM
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"My ex was a crazy psycho." ...mmhmm...was she now...
/r/ExRedPill07/12/23 09:01 PM
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Exactly. Honestly, realising that the fact that I'm probably not attractive to a huge portion of women is not a problem was probably one of the most liberating things to figure out.
/r/ExRedPill07/12/23 09:00 PM
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I feel like that's quite a common story here too in the sense of "I've done all this to improve myself (actually just physical appearance stuff), why am I still not attractive to women?" and then when they get chatting they confirm that they have actually done nothing to actually meet any women at all. Good on you for working things out though, and for all the working out too. Maybe it wasn't what you actually needed and maybe it wasn't the solution to your problems, but it's still a good achiev…
/r/ExRedPill07/12/23 11:19 AM
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Honestly I feel like pretty much the only people judging men on their bodies are other men. There's this apparent need in masculinity to compete with each other, as if we're competing for a mate; got to have the biggest muscles, the biggest wallet, the most status, to be able to peacock around at the ladies. And the women are just like "yea can you just not do that and just be a nice person instead?"
/r/ExRedPill07/12/23 10:57 AM
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You tried to go cold turkey, but what did you do to fill that gap. You've tried removing the negative content from your field of view, but where are you going for the positive content to change your perspective? What are you doing to access therapy? What are you doing to change the things that are leading you to red pill in the first place? What are you doing to actively undo the damage that's been done? You can't just turn it off and think that will do the trick. The ideas are already there in …
/r/ExRedPill05/12/23 05:39 PM
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Oh man, you tried. I had to block that guy in the end. I don't even know why he's here because he clearly doesn't want to spit the pill out.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/23 07:55 PM
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Then I'd go for the next option; ridicule. Don't get angry with him, laugh at him instead. Make him feel insecure about those beliefs. But do so in as friendly a way has possible. "Haha oh man you actually believe that? That's crazy I can't believe you'd think that. Anyway, what are you doing later do you wanna [whatever you do together]?"
/r/ExRedPill29/11/23 07:52 PM
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It's typically a long, drawn out process and not an argument you can win over the internet with "facts". Red pill mentality isn't based on knowledge it's based on feelings. I think the best things you can do would be: Call in, don't call out. Invite them into conversation about whatever they believe. Show interest, don't start an argument. But then ask questions, and let them get tied up in their own illogical arguments. They need to find the flaws in their arguments themselves, a "gotcha" isn't…
/r/ExRedPill29/11/23 12:34 PM
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Let's not? Men are, on average, more likely to be overweight and obese than women. So that's not really a fair point is it.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/23 10:09 AM
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Exactly that. Red Pillers are basically the guys who watch Mad Men and think Don Draper is a hero.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/23 10:04 AM
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Ugh. Next you'll be telling me they're allowed to vote!
/r/ExRedPill29/11/23 10:01 AM
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That's the dumbest sentence I've read today. I'd say longer than that but this is the internet and I am always surprised. Firstly, we definitely don't work "20x harder" than our grandfathers. Secondly, we don't work for women anyway. Thirdly, women are not "20x worse" than women back then. I mean how do you even measure that? What exactly is "worse" about them? We may well all be working more hours than we used to, we may well be dealing with more stress than we used to, but that's not women's f…
/r/ExRedPill28/11/23 08:09 PM
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From her Wiki: She first rose to prominence as part of the online manosphere subculture, following the censorship of the community's prominent figure, Andrew Tate.[4] Noted for her profuse ingratiation towards the movement, much of her commentary described as heavily "misogynistic" or "anti-feminist".[5] Definitely avoid like the plague.
/r/ExRedPill28/11/23 11:37 AM
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To anyone who never went down that path, who never turned to the red pill, and maybe particularly for those of us who were a bit older when this whole red pill thing started to emerge, it's been obvious from the start. At a bare minimum, on the mildest end of the spectrum, the red pill is pushing conservative ideologies. But they all work as a pipeline towards extreme right wing ideologies including fascism.
/r/ExRedPill21/11/23 07:43 PM
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If you have to ask, the answer is usually no. The fact that her name is "RomaArmyMensRights" and she considers herself "top mens rights advocate" is enough of a red flag for me. A couple of minutes into a video and a quick scroll through the titles and yea...it's not good. She's leaning into the Men's Rights Activists (MRAs) and sympathising with them and boy is it working. The problem is that a lot of MRA talk is mostly "the world is bad to men and women ignore men and men are the victims of ev…
/r/ExRedPill21/11/23 01:47 PM
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If I go into the mens rights subreddit Yea that's where you're going wrong. Don't go in there. It's trash. It's just another place for angry men to cherry pick whatever they can find to make it seem like men have it worse. Yes, there are problems men are facing, but these guys aren't interested in doing anything about it by doing something useful like dismantling patriarchal norms. They just want to cherry pick certain cases/scenarios and edit them to make it seem like men have it worse. As a ma…
/r/ExRedPill21/11/23 08:24 AM
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Who are these women and men that you're seeing because that's not something I have ever personally seen or experienced. Like, obviously homophobia is there and it's far more prevalent than it should ever be, but I don't think heterosexual women in general laugh at gay men, and I don't think heterosexual men in general treat masculine gay men like shit. There's always going to be some shitty people out there, but why preoccupy yourself with those people instead of the people who aren't like that?
/r/ExRedPill14/11/23 10:02 AM
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Not "women", people. It's not some innate women's super power that they can sense emotions and men can't. We all can. You can tell if someone seems a bit quiet, or a bit down, or if they seem like they're holding back some anger. It's a natural human ability to read emotions, it's been one of the most crucial elements of our evolution for the last few million years. Hell even dogs can sense your emotions. I think the important thing is that you figure out where these negative toxic attitudes are…
/r/ExRedPill13/11/23 10:09 AM
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"Because they want to." End of post. I honestly don't know why anyone is concerning themselves with such things unless they're doing some kind of PhD in anthropology.
/r/ExRedPill12/11/23 02:05 PM
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You're way off the mark to be honest with you. You don't have to dig that deep to find how incredibly shady the whole thing is. To some extent, yes there are links to very right-wing, conservative groups, and I'm sure there are also plenty out there who have links to Islam and even Islamic extremism; but the majority seem to be American right-wing conservative speakers. The cross over between nationalist right-wing groups and red pill groups is very large, not just in terms of ideology but in te…
/r/ExRedPill11/11/23 03:12 PM
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Of course men can be feminists. I'm not sure which country that is, but men can definitely be feminists.
/r/ExRedPill08/11/23 09:58 AM
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Some women like [literally any description of any kind of man]. Some women do not like [as above]. There is no universal rule, there's barely even a common trend. If I was to put my money on anything, it's that women will typically prefer a guy who is interesting, exciting, maybe thrilling. But again, it's all very varied and different women are attracted to different things. Some women like the sensitive guy, some women like the tough guy. Some women like the funny guy. Some women like the sens…
/r/ExRedPill07/11/23 07:02 PM
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Firstly, inceldom is self inflicted. Secondly if you think being single and wishing you weren't is worse than being raped, then I think I can tell you why you're not getting any luck with the ladies...
/r/ExRedPill07/11/23 10:14 AM
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It's not "another man's view". It's redpill bullshit. No it hasn't been proven. That's more redpill bullshit. I genuinely don't care how many past partners my partner has. It doesn't matter to me one bit. The only part about that scenario that would upset me would be that she maybe hadn't been honest to me before and only felt comfortable telling me while she was drunk. If anything the fact that it fell that way suggests to me that there were already trust issues in the relationship anyway; she …
/r/ExRedPill06/11/23 09:00 AM
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If someone goes into this and then actually realises that they are trans, then sure it might help them, but their life isn't better because they are a woman and they're now getting all the freebies and some kind of societal advantage. Their life is better because they're living as the gender that most matches who they are. But if someone goes into this believing that life is easier and better for women, and decides to follow along with it because they believe that, then they're only going to end…
/r/ExRedPill05/11/23 08:31 PM
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Again, mods will remove you from this sub if you just post links like this and don't actually engage in conversation.
/r/ExRedPill05/11/23 07:55 PM
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This is in violation of rule 5. If you have something you want to say, then say it yourself rather than posting links to redpill content.
/r/ExRedPill05/11/23 07:54 PM
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maybe they’ll be forced into acknowledging the glaring, obvious, and totally unfair disadvantages women face. Even more so, the disadvantages that trans women face. They're about to ruin their entire lives.
/r/ExRedPill05/11/23 07:53 PM
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It's entirely ignorant and based on a misguided idea that women have advantages over men. It's one thing to recognise that your gender doesn't align with the gender you were assigned at birth. It's another to believe that women have it better than men and so you should transition.
/r/ExRedPill05/11/23 07:51 PM
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I think it's a good point to reflect on the fact that yes, there are women who also experience loneliness and believe that they will be alone forever. It's also worth reflecting on how much pressure women also face from men and society on how their bodies should be, how they should behave, and a very large amount of it is centred around how to be good enough to be worth dating/marrying. A lot of red pill stuff will talk about how women live life on easy mode and men have all the challenges becau…
/r/ExRedPill05/11/23 06:48 PM
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30 seconds looking at his YouTube channel and it's just "get rich quick" content. His entire business model is to sell you promises of how to become rich, that almost definitely won't work, but will encourage you to buy his books or courses or whatever. The dude is suggesting you start dropshipping, which is one of the surest ways to becoming a broke loser. This guy doesn't know a thing about education, he just knows how to make money. I guarantee he also didn't make his money from scratch eithe…
/r/ExRedPill01/11/23 02:05 PM
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You call me out for hypothetical situations then go on and state a whole set of hypothetical situations of your own Yes, because I'm trying to highlight how ridiculous it is to decide what kind of person someone is based on hypothetical situations. There's no point in setting this standard that you'll only date virgins or only date women with very minimal previous experience because you want to avoid a partner who is "potentially disloyal", because doing so could backfire, since literally anyone…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/23 08:59 PM
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Calling you out for using entirely hypothetical situations that you just made up in your head - one that's based on total nonsense like women having an "expiration date" or this idea that women just want a man as a personal ATM - to shame women for their sexual promiscuity, is not "misandry". If you read back what I actually said, I didn't say you're wrong for "not wanting to deal with the possibility of a potentially disloyal partner". I called out referring to women who have had multiple previ…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/23 05:36 PM
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You say you're 22 and beyond saving as if 22 is some grown up age where you should be a full human being. My friend, you're basically still a child and you're still growing. You say you've been alone for 8 years, as if it's somehow normal to be dating from the age of 14. It's not. You're only just getting started and you have a lot of growing to do, and all the time in the world to work out your issues and find resolutions. Get some professional help. Cut out the red pill content. Start doing wh…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/23 12:15 PM
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Absolutely; they're creating their own problem then using it to sell a product that only encourages the problem, so you'll buy more.
/r/ExRedPill27/10/23 02:16 PM
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In the manosphere, everything is a competition. They talk about how there's a loneliness epidemic amongst men and how nobody is paying attention to it and how society is unfair, whilst also teaching you that you can't trust anyone - regardless of gender - and you must see every other person out there as your enemy. Go figure!
/r/ExRedPill27/10/23 11:17 AM
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If you're looking at "relationship advice" that focuses on being a "high value man", that's not dating advice; that's some kind of scam. It's shitty red pill content that's trying to get you to buy a course to become a "high value man". I dunno where you're looking for this stuff, to be honest I've never actually looked online for dating advice. But if they're telling you that you have to pay all the bills and be "high value" that's utter bullshit and shouldn't be touched with a barge pole.
/r/ExRedPill27/10/23 11:15 AM
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I'll be honest, this is getting way above Reddit's pay grade and really needs to be something you discuss with a professional psychologist who can actually unravel this. To see sex as punishment, to see yourself as "you're nothing but that's enough, I love you anyway." and to see others in the same way is a very concerning perspective and definitely not a healthy one. Did you grow up in a very conservative/religious setting? Do you have any history of sexual abuse? I have no professional backgro…
/r/ExRedPill25/10/23 01:38 PM
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Oh yea sorry absolutely, they're really victims in this. I know I thought in a lot of similar ways when I was younger; particularly that I could "win" a girl over with enough effort and persistence like I was playing the Sims or something. And even the older guys who are getting into this, they're always guys who haven't had good social lives up to that point. They're all vulnerable and the red pill simply takes advantage.
/r/ExRedPill24/10/23 05:43 PM
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Well it matters because I'm trying to figure out what help I might be able to offer you. So essentially, you have created this link in your mind between sex and shame? Like you see having sex with people as a way of degrading them and objectifying them, and can't understand how sex can exist without that? Do you see no connection between sex and love? And this is all from no experience, correct? Only from your thoughts. Why would you hurt your partner if you had sex with her? Because of her anxi…
/r/ExRedPill24/10/23 08:26 AM
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But when you say you can't reach sexual satisfaction without that, do you mean that you need to feel vulnerable and degraded, or that you need to feel like your partner is humiliated and overpowered and degraded? Sorry I'm still not quite following.
/r/ExRedPill23/10/23 09:05 PM
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The problem is that they are not so focused on self improvement as on turning you into a very specific idea of what a man should be, and it's usually an idea that's based on very outdated, unhealthy, and in some cases even dangerous description of masculinity and being a man. Yes, if you want to be a firefighter or a police officer, then it's a good idea that you are physically strong, that you're disciplined, that you're willing to take dangerous risks and take on a role of responsibility and l…
/r/ExRedPill23/10/23 09:01 PM
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These people are not feeding on only frustrated men but are aiming for the younger audiences without critical thinking skills (for which I don't blame them, we all were dumb in our teen years). Oh I blame them entirely, because they absolutely know what they're doing and they know it's wrong. I think even Tate openly talked about intentionally gaming the TikTok algorithm to target younger men/boys. It is as you say despicable, and it only takes 10 minutes on this sub to see what damage they're d…
/r/ExRedPill23/10/23 03:16 PM
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I can´t reach sexual satisfaction without that.] What do you mean by that?
/r/ExRedPill23/10/23 03:12 PM
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"I enjoy sex." "You clearly need serious therapy." eh????
/r/ExRedPill23/10/23 02:18 PM
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That's an unfounded statement based on nothing but a seemingly limited experience with women and far too much red pill content. Just because someone was promiscuous doesn't mean they always will be, nor does it mean they just need drama, nor does it mean they're untrustworthy, or that they're a bad person, or anything else. Some people like to have a bit of fun and then settle down. Some people want to be promiscuous for life. Someone's past does not define their future. If a woman actually want…
/r/ExRedPill23/10/23 02:16 PM
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OK there's lots of topics here to cover. Casual sex is not inherently irresponsible, nor shallow. It's perfectly possible to have casual sex with people and still respect them, in the same way it's perfectly possible to go to a party with someone or go to a concert or whatever other fun things people like to do. Two people (or hey, maybe more) want to have a pleasurable and enjoyable experience together, so they do. Nobody has to be harmed, nobody has to be disrespected, nobody has to be devalue…
/r/ExRedPill23/10/23 02:08 PM
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It's wild isn't it. It's almost as if being accepted and appreciated and respected by others in your society requires somewhat participating in said society. It's shocking that a belief system that describes everyone else as being "blue pilled" or "NPCs" or pretending that the rest of the world is your competition, doesn't actually make it easier to make friends and relationships. Go figure!
/r/ExRedPill23/10/23 08:10 AM
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This is nicely put. I really think there's a lot of understanding about "self improvement", and many people defend a lot of red pill stuff saying "it's just about self improvement." It's not about that at all. It's about imposing an unrealistic and unhealthy expectation upon yourself that is entirely detached from reality and society. And indeed, it's a marketing ploy to pull you into a cult so that you'll give them your money. When your friends tell you it's unhealthy and wrong, cut them out of…
/r/ExRedPill22/10/23 11:38 AM
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Well first of all, go ahead and block all of those channels, maybe delete your YouTube/Instagram and start again with a fresh account, block certain hashtags, accounts, all of that. You have to actively remove this stuff from your life because if you don't, the algorithm will just keep feeding you the same bullshit. Clean up your feeds. Maybe give yourself a different feed, like actively look for some feminist accounts instead and see how that feels. You say you just got out of a relationship, s…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/23 10:06 AM
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You need to talk to him about it. And you also need to set a clear boundary; this makes you uncomfortable and it concerns you that his thoughts align with those things. If he's not willing to consider how this makes you feel, if he doesn't want to resolve the issue, you need to end the relationship. I can't stress that enough.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/23 11:33 AM
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What do you want us to say? "Oh ok I guess red pill wins. There's nothing we can do." ??? This isn't some kind of battle or war. It's not a competition. We can't stop people from sharing red pill ideas, we can only offer an alternative perspective and support those who have been impacted by it. We will continue to provide a voice of reason, share a different perspective, and support those who look for help. Some of us will make content just like the red pill people do, that can be an alternative…
/r/ExRedPill16/10/23 10:01 AM
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Literally just stop going on 4chan. There's no point in philosophising over it. It's bad for you.
/r/ExRedPill14/10/23 03:56 PM
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It's a very common, normal idea of a first date.
/r/ExRedPill14/10/23 03:37 PM
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What is a "clown world" and how does working out and starting a business help with that?
/r/ExRedPill10/10/23 05:30 PM
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Nobody who calls themselves an "alpha" unironically is worth paying attention to.
/r/ExRedPill05/10/23 03:52 PM
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It literally isn't. And the less you treat everyone around you like competition, the better life gets.
/r/ExRedPill01/10/23 08:47 AM
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Well then it was a flawed analogy. And again, no, because you're implying that the women get into relationships with and the women have casual sex with are somehow different. They're not.
/r/ExRedPill30/09/23 10:06 PM
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Show me where it was where I said you should never judge anyone. And show me the point where I said this has anything to do with what people think of me personally.
/r/ExRedPill30/09/23 12:05 PM
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I'm judging you based on your behaviour that impacts other people. So yes, it's fine for me to judge you. That's not hypocritical. When you apply your judgement on people for how they conduct their private lives, that has an impact. When you decide that you're "better" than someone else because they enjoy promiscuous sex and you don't, you will treat them as such, and that treatment is unfair, and likely unpleasant. It's fine for you to not want to associate with people who have different lifest…
/r/ExRedPill30/09/23 11:07 AM
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Well no, because we know that a bear is massive compared to a dog, and far more powerful, and hasn't been bred as a domesticated animal for thousands of years. So unless the men that women get into relationships with, and the men who women have casual sex with, are entirely different species, that's not really a valid comparison.
/r/ExRedPill30/09/23 08:27 AM
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If people want to follow a religion, and if people want to wait until marriage to have sex then that's their choice. Personally I think it's a terrible choice that creates a whole host of problems, but that's for them to work out. But I don't really support anyone, person or institution, pushing one specific idea of how relationships, love and sex should be done. Especially if they they pass judgement onto anyone who doesn't follow that lifestyle, ie telling people that having sex before marriag…
/r/ExRedPill30/09/23 08:24 AM
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Then you're an asshole. Simple as really.
/r/ExRedPill30/09/23 08:17 AM
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By all means judge people when they do something worthy of being judged, and yes you should set standards. But surely they should be about things that actually matter. There are good and bad ways to have sexual relationships with people, but that can be true whether it's with 1 person or 100 people. How many people someone decides to sleep with is irrelevant so long as those people able to give full, enthusiastic consent. You can either be caring, considerate, empathetic and fun, or you can be a…
/r/ExRedPill29/09/23 07:47 PM
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Most women don’t seek out strange men to have sex with. Well, do you have the stats to back that up? Hypothetically if more women started seeking out strange men then absolutely the risk of violence will sky rocket. But that's only hypothetical. So you're basing your argument that promiscuity is more dangerous on a hypothesis, not actual evidence. Not in the age of newly evolving Covid viruses Covid isn't an STD, nor will it ever become one. So I dunno what your point is here. But in an LTR the …
/r/ExRedPill29/09/23 07:39 PM
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I'm not sure that's all that true. While the risk of STDs might increase when you involve more people, it still incredibly low. Pregnancy is a risk whether a woman has sex with one man a hundred times or a hundred men once. Most victims of rape or sexual violence or even murder, know the perpetrator personally; ie it's more likely to be a husband/boyfriend than it is a random stranger.
/r/ExRedPill29/09/23 02:52 PM
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I think it's best to just shake this whole idea of people being "better" than others generally. Life isn't a competition. You don't need to try and be "better" than anyone else and you don't need to belittle anyone else either. Some people like to have casual sex and sleep with lots of people. Some people want to have one single partner their whole life. Some people might go through several relationships before they find the right person. Some people will mix it up and have phases of being slutt…
/r/ExRedPill29/09/23 08:05 AM
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I think they've clocked on that everyone else has clocked on about what the red pill really is, so they don't want to be associated with it. But ultimately it's the same thing.
/r/ExRedPill29/09/23 07:15 AM
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The stuff he says is literally red pill rhetoric: "Women have delusional standards and if you want to get any success in dating then you need to improve as a man by working out and getting rich." It's line for line the exact same thing. He's only bashing red pill to push his own popularity, to somehow seem "better" than them. But the vast majority of what he's saying is exactly the same.
/r/ExRedPill28/09/23 07:36 PM
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I honestly don't think he does at all, but a broken clock is right twice a day. Whoever this Ali guy is he's just red pill by another name spewing out the same shitty rhetoric. He's literally red pill trying to pretend he isn't. And oh, lo and behold a quick look at his website and he's selling the same shit: "Want an Unfair Advantage In the Dating Marketplace? buy these testosterone-safe skin care products" "Sick of Feeling Invisible & Unlovable by Women? Then Unlock the Secrets to Finally Crus…
/r/ExRedPill28/09/23 06:06 PM
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I honestly wouldn't recommend listening to anyone who has another video called "The best of Jor**an Pet***on".
/r/ExRedPill28/09/23 05:48 PM
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What do you expect anyone to think of someone like that? I've never heard of him but that description is enough to tell me he's a piece of shit. Not much more to it really.
/r/ExRedPill26/09/23 06:07 PM
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Very well put.
/r/ExRedPill25/09/23 07:05 PM
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You can't "create" attraction anyway. You are who you are, and you may or may not be attractive to someone. Interesting conversation can help you establish a connection, find out if you actually do both find each other attractive, and go from there. Yes, of course, mix in some flirting. But still, to come back to the original point, stats and averages and sociology aren't going to help you do any of that.
/r/ExRedPill22/09/23 04:03 PM
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Well done. Your badge is in the mail. Critically analysing and introspecting yourself yes. Critically analysing data about the general population, no.
/r/ExRedPill22/09/23 09:17 AM
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My point is that you don't need to think about Maslow or coefficients or averages or stats or any of this stuff if you want to have any sort of good, healthy relationships. It's a waste of time. None of this stuff will help you hold an interesting conversation with a potential partner. None of this stuff will make you a better version of yourself. At best it will have you trying to alter your own identity to suit some vague idea of what you think women want, meaning you either only become attrac…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/23 07:18 AM
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You're thinking way too deep about this and applying ideas that are irrelevant. No one person can hit all needs, and how much each person values each different need, and how each person goes about pursuing them is unique. Some women want a guy with lots of money and status so she he can buy her fancy clothes and help make her Instagram famous. Some women want a guy who's creative and inspiring. Some women want a guy who's just fun to be around. Some women want a guy who's emotionally intelligent…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/23 06:25 AM
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"How rare you are" is irrelevant though, because there is no universal definition of what is attractive or unattractive. "Status" does not make you attractive to women who don't care about status. Quite frankly anyone who talks about "game" is talking shit anyway so it doesn't really matter what PUAs are saying.
/r/ExRedPill22/09/23 05:16 AM
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Red pill and incels are absolutely related. A jack russell and a German shepherd are both dogs. I think to most people from the outside, it's all just different points on the same spectrum called the "manosphere". Both are typically men who are lonely and angry and depressed and blame women/feminism/society for it. The name for "red pill" came from the matrix, and people talking about waking up to the reality that men are oppressed by feminism and all that. At the end of it, that distinction is …
/r/ExRedPill22/09/23 04:50 AM
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We can take statistics and we can find averages from those statistics. We can find average height, average weight, average income, average number of matches on Tinder etc etc. Of course, there are 3 ways to find the average, and each will give a different result, and can be interpreted in different ways. But, when it comes to dating and relationships, this stuff is entirely worthless and usually only makes people feel bad about themselves. Sure, if you're a sociologist or an anthropologist, go a…
/r/ExRedPill21/09/23 05:46 PM
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Because women also have brains that are vulnerable to manipulation and toxic ideas. They believe it for the same reason men do. Ultimately it's all about seeking validation through sexual desire from someone else, and anyone can feel that.
/r/ExRedPill19/09/23 07:12 AM
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Honestly the state of "edgy" humour really shocks me. Not because of it being edgy, but because I feel like so many kids are seeing these sorts of jokes (anything from something like giga chad to straight up antisemitic jokes) and not necessarily understanding how serious this stuff is. It's worth watching The Pewdiepipeline to see how this stuff starts with seemingly innocuous jokes and ends with mass shootings.
/r/ExRedPill18/09/23 08:37 PM
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Ultimately they're all different branches of the same tree we call the manosphere, which, at its essence, is a backlash to feminism and any progress towards women's rights. MGTOW is about blaming women for the suffering of men and seeking "freedom" from being oppressed by women. PUA and this Andrew Taint stuff is all about treating women like a resource to be harvested by men. Both revolve around a very neoliberal idea of individual success, and both revolve around seeing women (and anyone gay, …
/r/ExRedPill18/09/23 07:26 PM
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Admins can we ban this guy? He just keeps posting these long ass videos for self promo.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/23 02:02 PM
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30 seconds of searching and I can see it's just another terminology for the same thing as the red pill. This often happens with these types of ideologies; people start to catch on that it's toxic and awful so they change the name to avoid association with that. But it's all the same.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/23 05:02 PM
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Whatever dude we're all here if you want to talk.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/23 01:52 PM
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Dude do you need someone to talk to? You're acting really strange.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/23 12:34 PM
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If they did they'd stop. Sometimes they do. The problem is that what they learn in these spaces completely alters their idea of how dating works, or it reinforces the ideas they already had. They don't think of dating as building a mutual connection between two people. They see it as a game of logic like chess. It's all about twisting things and making moves and manipulation and coercion until the other player (the woman) submits to you. Women aren't seen as another person, they're seen as the h…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/23 01:14 PM
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Woooah dude pass the doob. Seriously though, it's an interesting perspective, but I think there's some misunderstandings there. To some extent yes, trying to apply logic to everything - especially things like dating and relationships and generally understanding other people - is a fruitless effort. Humans are not purely logical, and desire is one of the least logical aspects of our behaviour. But you can also apply some logic to all of this, if you stop thinking of it like a uniform system and t…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/23 07:37 AM
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Tbh, I think this is a bit of what OP is talking about. Even if you're right, this approach to tackling such views does nothing to change someone's mind. Pointing the finger, making accusations, even just standing your ground to uphold your beliefs will only lead the other to go on the defensive or on the attack. It just creates an argument, it doesn't create any change.
/r/ExRedPill25/08/23 02:12 PM
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The thing is, you have to question why young men don't find these things "normal". I think part of it is what you said; a lot of mainstream media - particularly older stuff - pushes these dated ideas of relationships and gender roles, and so when men get out into the real world and have to face the reality of understanding women, they're thrown off when they find that these more traditional ideas of dating and relationships don't actually work on women (especially women who have embraced feminis…
/r/ExRedPill25/08/23 02:05 PM
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I was never red pilled but what I can say is that your life will be so much better when you don't follow such drama. I barely know who these people are but from the little I do know, I don't care to know any more. The less attention anyone gives them the better.
/r/ExRedPill25/08/23 01:26 PM
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I....what?
/r/ExRedPill22/08/23 02:43 PM
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One thing to reconsider is the idea of a "lack of women". It makes it sound like women are a resource to be tapped into, rather than just people that you can build social relationships with. What I would say is that many men, for various reasons, struggle to build those social relationships with women. Maybe it's anxiety, maybe it's poor social skills, maybe it's disabilities that impact socialising, maybe it's depression, maybe it's poor self image. For whatever reason, these men struggle to me…
/r/ExRedPill17/08/23 05:48 PM
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I'd also add; any intervention or conversation about it might be best with a man. If he's already thinking that women cheat, he's not necessarily going to be convinced by a woman telling him he's wrong.
/r/ExRedPill16/08/23 10:03 PM
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Whoever has given him an iPad or whatever to watch videos on needs to turn on the parental controls and monitor what he's watching. The damage could already be done, we really can't know how much he's seen and how much he's taken on board already. His parents need to have a full conversation with him to find out what he's seen and what he thinks, then start to undo those ideas urgently. It could be so, so damaging if this isn't dealt with urgently.
/r/ExRedPill16/08/23 07:52 AM
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Yes, you're almost definitely overthinking things. A lot. Read back what you've written and realise how much of what you've said is pure speculation. You think she doesn't like you because you're not "manly" enough or assertive enough or whatever. But she literally said she doesn't want to date you because you're younger. I mean, it's a really weird rule for her to have, but it happens sometimes. You have nothing to back up your belief that it's anything else, only speculation based on the misin…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/23 07:30 PM
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I guess I just struggle because the stigma of bisexual girls is that they are whores. I mean, you hit the nail right on the head there. Bisexual men and non-binary people face the same stigma, it's called biphobia. They even face it from gay people sometimes too. It's this attitude that just because someone is attracted to men and women, that somehow means they're more likely to cheat or sleep around. Which is utter nonsense. I mean, as a straight man, surely you find many, many different women …
/r/ExRedPill08/08/23 07:29 AM
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Honestly sometimes just finding nice cafe where you can sit and chat is enough. First dates are about getting to know each other, so sometimes it's best not to do something too distracting. Or at least, if you go for something fun like bowling, follow it up with some time to sit and chat somewhere. A combination like that can work really well.
/r/ExRedPill06/08/23 06:48 AM
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Every outcome is possible, there are billions of relationships and they all go different ways for different reasons. I feel like generally speaking, if a relationship fails then it's probably not worth trying again. Even if a person has changed, you'll still be living with the fact that they once were the person they were, and you'll be living with the consequences of it. There could be resentment for how things used to be, there could be anxiety that things will be like that again, always hangi…
/r/ExRedPill30/07/23 01:44 PM
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Christ the amount of toxic, disgusting ideas is only challenged by the extent of the contradictions and hypocrisy. It really shows how no matter how many statistics and "facts" these people share, they actually have no idea what they're talking about. I also highly recommend this video about how many seemingly innocuous creators essentially work as a pipeline for the alt right. In the video he uses PewDiePie as the main example, but the same exists throughout many other communities, especially t…
/r/ExRedPill28/07/23 09:09 AM
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Yes you talk to them like you talk to anyone else. Because they're just people like everyone else. There isn't a specific etiquette for speaking to women in the workplace that is different to how you should speak to men in the workplace.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/23 07:57 AM
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This will probably get removed for self promo I dunno, but I think this looks really cool. I've never been red pilled myself but I do have pretty dire screen time habits so I'm gonna give this a go. It looks great by the way, visually. Will have to wait and see if it actually helps but I like the idea.
/r/ExRedPill26/07/23 06:45 AM
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Polyamory, not polygamy. Or really just ethical non-monogamy. It's an easy mistake to make but they mean quite different things.
/r/ExRedPill23/07/23 08:00 PM
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Honestly, anyone looking at these people and even making any sort of comparison with any normal person's life is wasting their own time. These people do not live in the same world we do, hell they barely live in the same world most conventional celebrities do. It is pointless to look at how they live and consider how it relates to our own lives. It doesn't. if we were to sit here and say "this is a healthy/unhealthy idea of masculinity" or to treat it as some kind of life goal to live like any o…
/r/ExRedPill23/07/23 07:58 PM
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My honest answer would be "A mix of all of the above" and also "whatever works for you". I would definitely say that cutting it out entirely isn't necessarily going to be helpful without something else to replace it. If you've watched a lot of stuff and you've got these ideas in your head, then cutting the content isn't going to get rid of those ideas. You need to retrain your brain and relearn other ideas.
/r/ExRedPill23/07/23 06:31 PM
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I'd be really interested in watching that, please do share!
/r/ExRedPill22/07/23 04:32 PM
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Firstly, look at the contradiction in your own thoughts, these two ideas are basically polar opposites: Sex with someone you love and have a better connection with is a better kind of sex Being with someone you love is boring so she'll want to go and sleep around Which is it? From my own experience, the answer is that neither of these are truly right or wrong, because it's never so black and white. Having sex with new people can be exciting because it comes with a new layer of being desired and …
/r/ExRedPill19/07/23 06:15 PM
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I didn't say it doesn't happen I said it's extremely rare. So again, just because you can find a few examples of something doesn't mean it happens all the time. Just because a handful of women get everything paid for does not mean "women have it easy". Nor does it dismiss any of the other points that I made and you decided to overlook. Let's also look at it another way; how much control does that pro athlete now have over her? What happens when he decides he's not happy with something? He can si…
/r/ExRedPill17/07/23 06:47 AM
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I didn't at any point suggest that this was what you are thinking, so there's no need for you to take it personally at all. And while my point is merely expanding on the context of all of these ideas that RP apparently suggests, so it is indeed what you're talking about, just expanded.
/r/ExRedPill16/07/23 06:54 PM
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Wow, powerful comeback. That's me put in my place.
/r/ExRedPill16/07/23 06:53 PM
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But, you realise that virtually never happens right? All of those things you just listed. I'm sure there are millions of women out there with bills they can't afford to pay, and they won't be able to just find some sugar daddy to pay for it. If they get any of those things at all, then it's typically under the assumption/expectation that they will return the favour with sex, and many women have and will face consequences from entitled men if they don't. Or if not that, then it's because those wo…
/r/ExRedPill16/07/23 05:43 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that, that must be so frustrating. I hope at some point you might find a way to make it work.
/r/ExRedPill16/07/23 07:44 AM
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Oh god that was really a part that I missed out, how being so desirable actually results in so much harassment, stalking, even violence from men. Anything from unsolicited dick pics to literally being followed home. I've heard way too many stories. There's a reason so many women say "I have a boyfriend" even when they don't. I'm sorry you've had to put up with that. It sounds like a nightmare.
/r/ExRedPill16/07/23 07:42 AM
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They say this because they're men who are only interested in sex and pulling women, and think women have it easy because they can literally just pick any man and he'll probably have sex with her therefore they live on easy mode. HOWEVER, the reality is that there are plenty of women out there who struggle to find partners. They may also struggle with confidence and self esteem issues, they may also struggle with social anxiety. In fact I'd say self esteem issues are probably far more common amon…
/r/ExRedPill15/07/23 09:06 PM
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but a sex buyer forcing themselves on a sex worker is literally rape An employer raping an employee is also rape. People get raped, sexually assaulted, violently attacked and abused in literally any other line of work. So yes, sex work is no different. Why would they focus on privileged OF models when women and girls are being raped every single day? Why should they look at OF at all? Why are you equating sex work to rape? There is rape, and there is voluntarily consenting to have sex for money.…
/r/ExRedPill15/07/23 05:27 AM
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Because it's combating common traits of toxic masculinity.
/r/ExRedPill15/07/23 12:07 AM
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Every industry is exploitative. Sex work is no different from any other kind of work in that sense. Radfems rarely take the time to actually differentiate between, say, trafficked women forced into sex work and independent sex workers who choose the industry. Just like how many radfems say they want to keep trans women out of women-only spaces to protect "biological women", but in doing so actually threaten the safety of trans women, and in fact regularly harass cis women in the process.
/r/ExRedPill14/07/23 11:39 PM
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How dare she get in the way of the actions of a murderous criminal. God forbid a woman demonstrate any sort of strength or power.
/r/ExRedPill14/07/23 04:02 PM
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Yea I also wanted to take issue with that. Feminists who don't support sex workers (prostitutes, escorts, porn stars) are what we call Sex Work Exclusionary Radical Feminists or "SWERFs" for short. A "real feminist" supports women pursuing the careers that they choose, including sex work if that's what they want to do. A "real feminist" wouldn't suggest that a woman is "dishonoured" for embracing her own bodily autonomy and sexual freedom.
/r/ExRedPill14/07/23 03:40 PM
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Exactly! It genuinely shocked me how many people were rooting for him while calling Skyler a bitch. If you watched Breaking bad and thought Walter White was great and Skyler was bad, I've got some really bad news for you.
/r/ExRedPill14/07/23 03:38 PM
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No you've got this pretty wrong I would say. Sure a lot of those things are toxic, but not necessarily toxic "masculinity". Even some of the things you say about not being toxic, are still pretty toxic. Toxic masculinity is: Insisting on men being tough, strong, and stoic "Man up" "be a man" "men don't cry" etc Seeing any display of vulnerability, softness or femininity as devaluing your masculinity or manliness Rigid gender roles; ie "men are responsible for this and women are responsible for t…
/r/ExRedPill14/07/23 03:36 PM
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Institute for Family Studies is a conservative, Christian think tank. Their studies are biased and should not be taken at face value.
/r/ExRedPill13/07/23 09:40 PM
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I used to hate women for them liking men who have abs, are tall ect. And at that time I was just creating this hatred for women because i was insecure myself. Now I am all the things that I hated women want and If I wanted to I could get women Well, the problem there is that women don't just like men who are tall and have abs. Different women like different things, and women are rarely so shallow that all they want is a tall guy with abs. I'm a skinny guy, average height, and I've never had trou…
/r/ExRedPill13/07/23 09:39 PM
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Similar energy: "Arguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a pigeon; it'll knock the pieces down and shit all over the board and then it'll still strut around as if it won." I think we could all do ourselves a massive favour by avoiding getting into arguments generally, especially on the internet. Ultimately, you won't change anyone's mind and you'll just tire yourself out, because as your quote says; most people just want to be right. As soon as you start an argument with someone, as soo…
/r/ExRedPill13/07/23 09:09 PM
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But it's definitely "a lot of" them, like I said. This feels pointlessly pedantic tbh.
/r/ExRedPill11/07/23 05:10 PM
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Well yea obviously it's not a universal rule
/r/ExRedPill11/07/23 04:10 PM
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My honest theory is that a lot of these guys got jilted or cheated on or something at some point and then never actually dealt with it, so all they're just pumped full of irrational hate that even they don't fully understand. Hence why so much of it is just angry and contradictory. And now they're just passing it on to another generation of guys who've had no luck with women, who may well become the next generation of "content creators".
/r/ExRedPill11/07/23 01:58 PM
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Problem in what sense?
/r/ExRedPill09/07/23 01:02 PM
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People who think men are the creators/inventors/leaders often overlook the fact that throughout history, women have been literally denied the opportunities to do that. From being denied education to being denied leadership roles to being denied the vote. Men may make up even the vast majority of historic figures, but they did so by denying women the opportunities to even compete.
/r/ExRedPill02/07/23 09:09 AM
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Maybe, but again you don't know enough to make an assessment. You're also doing the classic thing of talking about single mothers and blaming them for making bad choices, rather than blaming the absent fathers for their inappropriate behaviour. Do you see how this sort of approach is misogynistic? It's the same attitude that has people asking rape victims what they were wearing and how much they were drinking, instead of just directly blaming the rapist.
/r/ExRedPill01/07/23 02:53 PM
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Ok but 3 is a pretty tiny sample size to many any sort of conclusion about single mothers generally. That's my point. Red pill stuff is all about generalisation; women are like this, single mothers are like that, women who do X will do Y etc.
/r/ExRedPill01/07/23 10:28 AM
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In what way was it textbook? A broken clock is right twice a day. Just because there are cases where some things the red pill guys say comes true, doesn't mean they're right.
/r/ExRedPill01/07/23 08:53 AM
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It doesn't have "truths" that resonate with people. It has misconceptions that resonate with other people's misconceptions. The connection isn't based on reality it's based on emotion.
/r/ExRedPill30/06/23 12:05 PM
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I'd love to see an extensive list of all the batshit things that red pillers have said are bad.
/r/ExRedPill30/06/23 12:04 PM
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No it isn't. Yes, those things happen, but these Red Pillers will talk about it as if it's a universal truth. There are also men who do all of the above. It's not a description of women, it's just a description of some human behaviours that are exhibited by some people. Some people - including women - are also fascists, murderers and rapists. But I'm not going to go out there assuming that about everyone I meet.
/r/ExRedPill30/06/23 08:10 AM
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If you listen to the red pill guys, they'll tell you exactly that. Man up. If you want to get out of this then you have to stop feeling sorry for yourself and get on with working your way out. Go make more money. Go make yourself fitter. Women will think you're a loser for living with your parents at 24 and not already being a millionaire with 16 properties in the city. You're using your "mental health" as an excuse for your laziness. They'll tell you exactly that because they're fucking idiots.…
/r/ExRedPill27/06/23 02:37 PM
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It's absolutely all in someone's head. It's not that they refuse to try to do something about it, it's that they don't understand what the problem is and so don't even know how to do anything about it. They typically think that it's their genetics and their looks when the reality is that it's their social anxiety, their situation, and their poor understanding of women and relationships that's holding them back. And all of those things can be changed with the right input and influence. It's absol…
/r/ExRedPill24/06/23 09:48 PM
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Applying logic to red pill is like applying logic to a toddler.
/r/ExRedPill24/06/23 03:02 PM
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It's very difficult to bring any action against them. They're really just sharing opinions which are typically protected under free speech. Sites like YouTube have policies on what people are allowed to share on there, and sometimes they do overstep that boundary and the content gets taken down, but it usually has to go quite far for an account to get shut down.
/r/ExRedPill21/06/23 04:43 PM
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Thank you for sharing your story, I think it is a textbook example of how this happens and how quickly things can change. Let's get one thing clear: you are not a horrible person. You are a child. You, as a child, fell victim to a campaign that targeted vulnerable people like you. This is what the red pill does. It takes innocent young men and turns them into monsters. You were lied to when you had no way to know that it was lies. These people literally use psychological methods against you to m…
/r/ExRedPill21/06/23 01:16 PM
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I mean, yes looks matter to some extent; you're not necessarily going to get into a romantic relationship with someone you don't find physically attractive. But what is defined as "good looking" is subjective and varied. It's also possible to grow romantic feelings over time for someone you don't really find physically attractive. But that doesn't mean that romantic relationships are shallow. Just because you may have initially been drawn to someone based on their physical appearance, does not m…
/r/ExRedPill18/06/23 11:38 AM
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I think likewise that's why I never really fell into this; I've never bought into the very capitalist idea of success, I've grown up around more left leaning crowds, I was very much "alternative" at school and didn't want to be like the popular kids, I didn't see popularity or money as a goal really, especially as I got older, and I generally wasn't that attracted to the more generic ideas of "attractive" when it came to the women I dated. My first girlfriend when I was 15 had an impressive tric…
/r/ExRedPill18/06/23 11:32 AM
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Well yes, it makes men miserable. But it's sold by men who seem to have everything they want (women, money, status). And it constantly tells them that feminism is why their life is miserable, because apparently feminism is telling women that men are bad and it's drawing all of the support resources away from men and giving it all to women. I've tried many times here to explain why feminism - ie dismantling a patriarchal system - is good for men, but many of the guys in here don't actually know w…
/r/ExRedPill18/06/23 09:45 AM
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Oh absolutely there's a lot of overlap. A lot of the ideas that these men push are simply conservative ideas centred around maintaining very dated, rigid ideas of gender roles and social structures. They're usually not just misogynistic but homophobic/transphobic, racist, generally full of these awful conservative narratives. They keep pushing these ideas of how life should be, despite the fact that this way of life makes most people miserable.
/r/ExRedPill18/06/23 08:45 AM
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I don't have any specific resources but yes, the red pill sells itself as helping men. Imagine a school setting, it's a place where people who are all very different are forced together. You've got the popular kids who are very social and outgoing, you've got the unpopular kids who are less social. You've got the bullies (often the more popular kids because they're bolder and confident) and you've got the victims (usually the less popular kids because they're socially anxious and an easy target)…
/r/ExRedPill18/06/23 08:16 AM
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Your problem isn't that you're 5'8". Your problem is that you believe 5'8" is a problem. Nobody worth talking to thinks you're unattractive. I just saw your photo and you're not ugly at all, you're just apparently only speaking to people who are shitty to you. Put the weights down, go surround yourself with better people who actually treat you like a person, get some therapy to deal with your body dysmorphia and self esteem. Paying someone for sex isn't going to make you feel better about yourse…
/r/ExRedPill17/06/23 07:28 PM
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Err yea...science...
/r/ExRedPill17/06/23 12:14 PM
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Oh absolutely. I'm sure a lot of these guys even find themselves in RP because these interests make them feel like they need to fix their masculinity. I've no doubt such interests and kinks generate shame even before going down the RP route, only for RP to make it worse. It's a shame really. Because I've now had several women say I look hot in lingerie 🤷🏼‍♂️
/r/ExRedPill17/06/23 09:29 AM
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Yea bro I'm disappointed.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/23 10:27 PM
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It's controversial because you're making a complete assumption about someone. Nothing on his post said anything about porn. Nothing on his profile says anything about porn. Making generalised comments about people without actually getting to know the context of their situation isn't helpful. If you actually want to say something helpful, then actually read someone's story, give personalised advice that's specific to their situation. Besides, it's perfectly possible to watch porn and have a healt…
/r/ExRedPill16/06/23 08:30 PM
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The hell are you talking about?
/r/ExRedPill16/06/23 04:47 PM
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It's absolutely true. It's why Universities end up being so left leaning. It's nothing to do with "indoctrination" or whatever those right-wing pundits believe; it's because going to university exposes you to a variety of cultures, mixed together through the common interest of wanting to learn more about the world and about each other. You spend enough time around intellectual people from around the world who have good practice in critically analysing sources of information, you will surprisingl…
/r/ExRedPill16/06/23 04:42 PM
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It's crazy isn't it. It's like when you realise that women are actually just people and you treat them as such then it somehow gets easier to socialise with them on a human level, because they're humans. Like when you realise that you're not competing with everyone around you, you can actually form healthy, happy relationships with others. Honestly though I'm happy for you. I'm sure your life is already going a lot better for simply realising all of this.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/23 04:25 PM
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Red pill is all about believing the world is a competition and you must work to be better than everyone else, and part of that process is putting others down to prove that you're better than them. So they'll happily throw out insults and condescending comments to anyone else just to make themselves seem bigger. It's just school bullies who never learned to stop bullying. They're incapable of reasoned conversation, they only care about being top of the pile, and they'll throw shit at anyone to st…
/r/ExRedPill14/06/23 06:20 PM
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Yes of course it is. That's how the red pill works. In its simplest form, it's narcissism. It's an attitude of treating life like a competition, where everyone around you is a competitor and your priority is to win over them, no matter what the cost. It's one of the most obvious reasons why the red pill is not out to help men, because helping other people goes against the self serving, narcissistic nature of what they're trying to achieve. The only reason these guys share videos is because they …
/r/ExRedPill13/06/23 04:05 PM
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It's also just a total false equivelance, because you can comfortably have multiple friends at the same time, but typically relationships are monogamous. I had my first girlfriend whe I was 15 and I'm now 34, call it 20 years. If I'd dated 200 women over that time, I'd be averaging about 1 month long relationships. Even if it was just 50 women, we're looking at maybe 4 month long relationships on average. No apply that same advice to a younger man, you're looking at trying to cram even more "rel…
/r/ExRedPill10/06/23 09:54 AM
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Sure, but... A) the advice is specifically saying that sleeping with many women is how you get to know them, which is obviously bullshit B) you can't properly get to know anyone if you're trying to get to know 50+ people. If you want to get to know that many people, you can't possibly be spending enough time with any of them to actually get to know them on any deeper level. Yes, meeting more women and connecting with them will help you understand them better, but you've only got so much time and…
/r/ExRedPill08/06/23 06:46 AM
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The point is that what each woman and man wants in a relationship is still extremely variable, even if there are similarities within genders. And so you don't get to know that by forming relationships with lots of people, because what you learn from one won't apply to another. And besides, with those sorts of numbers, you're not going to form deep enough relationships to actually learn anything useful anyway. You can't have 200 friends. It's not possible. Nobody has the capacity either in time, …
/r/ExRedPill07/06/23 02:45 PM
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Absolutely. It's a very narcissistic take on life; to focus on your own needs and what "works" and what's "good" for you without considering other people. It's a total lack of awareness of other people's needs or feelings, an idea that you are at the top of the hierarchy, above everyone else in importance and function. Narcissism goes a long way in explaining a hell of a lot of red pill mentality to be honest.
/r/ExRedPill07/06/23 02:36 PM
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That comment was just a bunch of generalisations void of any real content. "Women are like this and men are like that" is a really unhealthy way to think about people. Yes, there are differences, but there are also differences between individual people. Some women just wanna fuck sometimes and will go pull a guy who looks good without worrying about who he is as a person. Some men really need that emotional connection before they can have sex with someone. Having sex with 200 people of one gende…
/r/ExRedPill07/06/23 12:31 PM
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*doormat I mean, you need to apply some common sense of course and not just tolerate anything and everything. I'm not saying that women can never be wrong. But a lot of men end up arguing with women simply because they don't like what women are saying. For example, women speak up regularly about how men mistreat them or the struggles they face in their life. You can either listen to them and take it on board, or you can just argue back and tell them that men have it worse etc. Very often, when w…
/r/ExRedPill07/06/23 11:10 AM
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Two points to this: Firstly, imagine if a woman said that sleeping with 50 men makes you good at understanding men and relationships. Can you imagine the outrage from Redpillers at a comment like that. The hypocrisy is less a red flag, more a volcano spewing red hot lava. Secondly, of course it doesn't work. You don't learn how to connect with someone by actively not connecting with them. You don't understand relationships by avoiding having the. Behaving like that will specifically teach you ho…
/r/ExRedPill07/06/23 09:42 AM
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I feel like this whole idea is based on a really, really poor understanding of BDSM generally. Things like "consensual non-consent" are popular, sure, and women within the BDSM scene do typically lean to submissive, but NONE of that means women secretly want to be raped. It would literally take just a few minutes of actually listening to women or doing the slightest bit of research into safe BDSM practices. But this version of reality conveniently fits their narrative, so they stop there. I gues…
/r/ExRedPill06/06/23 08:29 PM
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I wouldn't blame Christians who embrace LGBT people for homophobia and transphobia within the church. I would appreciate them for their inclusivity and for standing up to the wider system of intolerance. I wouldn't expect a typical church goer to apologise for when their church leader abuses his power to sexually assault young boys. But I would expect them to hold that leader to rights and I would expect them to stop associating with that leader/church. So no, I do not expect people to own the b…
/r/ExRedPill02/06/23 02:56 PM
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For someone who has no idea what he's talking about you have a hell of a lot to say on the subject. If you still think the red pill, incels, and conservative groups "support men" then you still have a long way to go. It's blatant that you have a lot of resentment towards women and want to follow red pill and MRA stories to justify your anger, rather than actually getting out of your rut and speaking with and listening to feminists to understand anything better. I could explain to you how Earl Si…
/r/ExRedPill02/06/23 04:46 AM
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Sorry, but you need to take responsibility for the bad shit other feminists say. Why should I have to take responsibility for what someone else has said simply because they called it feminism? TERFs believe it is feminist to ban trans women from women's spaces. I think that's entirely wrong. Do I need to apologise to all trans people for the actions and words of people I completely oppose? Am I responsible for TERFs? Or do you see how totally batshit that is to make me responsible for something …
/r/ExRedPill31/05/23 07:15 AM
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Three is a high number!? Wow. I wouldn't even consider 10 a high number. Although I am in my 30s now, maybe it would be a high number for someone in their early 20s or something I dunno. No. It's nonsense. Someone's historic actions do not define their future actions. If you want a "resource", try just speaking to women, or men who are in relationships with women with "high body counts". You won't find stats and figures on such a thing because it's not really a thing that anyone would be bothere…
/r/ExRedPill30/05/23 08:36 PM
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And this confirms my belief that people who talk negatively about feminism don't actually understand what it is. Who is dodging what accusations, exactly? How is "feminism" to blame for any one person's actions or ideas? What responsibility would you expect to see and how would you see it expressed? What should I - a feminist - be apologising and making up for? You're talking about feminism like it's an organised religion rather than just a general belief in equality between genders that is enti…
/r/ExRedPill29/05/23 02:12 PM
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Feminism is like communism, Marxism, socialism etc in that the people who complain about it are usually the ones who don't understand it. And so many times I've heard people on here saying "if feminists are so much bout equality why aren't they talking about [xyz]" when in fact, they are. Also "Feminism" is treated like it's some kind of political party with leaders and a manifest or something rather than just a broad, ever changing concept that is shared and defined differently by almost everyo…
/r/ExRedPill29/05/23 09:20 AM
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I have friends all across the gender spectrum, as does my girlfriend, as has every ex girlfriend before her. Not a single one of my exes either cheated on me or ended up getting with one of those friends after we broke up. Does it happen? Sure. Is it always the case? Absolutely not. Is there any way to know in each situation? No, not really. Relationships rely on trust. There's no two ways about it. You have to be able to trust the person you're with, and that usually comes from communicating wi…
/r/ExRedPill26/05/23 08:11 PM
1

Ah of course, always got to get a little bit of that ethno-nationalism in there somewhere.
/r/ExRedPill11/05/23 06:23 PM
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Red pill is very much a conservative ideology. If anything, it's like a pipeline to pull young men into right wing spaces. It sort of goes like this... You want to improve yourself? We can help you succeed This is what you need to do as a man to be successful in life The important things are the things that make you masculine, focus on those You can strengthen your masculinity through these traditional values These traditional values are under threat It's feminism and LGBTQ+ people who are destr…
/r/ExRedPill08/05/23 05:14 PM
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On point 3; women I've spoken to have said they typically prefer lesbian porn not because they're more attracted to women, but because the way sex is displayed in straight porn is usually unappealing to them, while lesbian porn actually focuses on an shows a more realistic representation of female pleasure. It's important to remember that data only tells a portion of the story. Quantitative data is worthless without qualitative data. That's why anyone who says "90% of women do this" and "only 10…
/r/ExRedPill01/05/23 08:47 PM
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No I'm not saying I was lucky at all. I'm saying that instead of following the advice of the red pill, I learned how to just be a good person that people like to be around. I learned how to process rejection in a healthy way, I learned how to socialise, I learned how to show off my best features, how to listen to people and hold a conversation, and how to be happy in my own life when I didn't have someone else around me. It wasn't going to the gym, or earning a six figure salary, or getting famo…
/r/ExRedPill28/04/23 09:19 AM
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What makes you think I'm a top man? I tick off zero if the typical things those red pill types consider a top man. I have NEVER been able to pull a woman on a night out. I'm not that type at all. But so what? I figured myself out and found women who liked who I am and enjoyed it. There is no "top 10%". It's a myth. You're right. You are delusional. And again, we're here to help when you're ready.
/r/ExRedPill27/04/23 11:30 PM
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Only...that's not true. If you're willing to actually learn that that isn't the reality of dating, then we're all here to help you move out of these toxic ideas. But I have no interest in debating with you. I could show you all the evidence that you're wrong but you're not going to listen, so I won't waste my time. When you're ready to question all that you're saying here, then we will be here for you.
/r/ExRedPill27/04/23 11:26 PM
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Right but...it's not true? And even if it is, then surely that means 10 men are getting sex for every one woman? So your numbers still don't add up?
/r/ExRedPill27/04/23 09:57 AM
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If all these men are single and lonely, who's dating and having sex with all the women? If women aren't lonely when they're not in relationships, what are they doing that's so different to men? I don't lack social reading. To be clear, I have a girlfriend and I've been in and out of relationships since I was 15 (now 34). I've lived more than long enough to know that what you're saying isn't true. I know it from first hand experience. You're just regurgitating some crap you've read on the interne…
/r/ExRedPill27/04/23 09:56 AM
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Seriously dude are you actually interested in getting any help here? Or are you just here to spout a bunch of redpill incel bullshit?
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 10:37 PM
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That's very selective data. If there's 10 women there and 10 there, and 9 of the men are single but only 3 of the women are, that doesn't mean that more men are single, it means you've picked more single men. If instead the 10 men included those women's boyfriends, then you'd more likely have 3 single men and 3 single women. For every (straight) couple, there's one man and one woman who are now no longer single. So it can't really be the case that more men are having a hard time finding relation…
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 10:36 PM
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This is the problem with people like this. Don't bother arguing with them because you can't change their minds with any facts and figures. It's a waste of time and energy. If you want someone like that to change their mind you need to engage with them with sympathy and you have to challenge their ideas only with quwstions until they come to the conclusion themselves. And failing that you just ridicule them until they feel embarrassed for saying that shit out loud.
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 09:29 PM
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Are you ok? We're all here to help if you're ready to accept some help.
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 09:26 PM
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If 40-50% of men are single, then that follows that 40-50% of women are single too. Men will also dump women for someone they consider better. What point are you trying to make?
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 09:24 PM
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I think I could say my father informed my perception of masculinity in a lot of ways, and that's what put me off embracing it so fully. He worked a physical job even when in physical pain. Anger is basically the only emotion I have ever seen from him. He didn't engage in my childhood, my education, my interests, or anything else. His stoicism and need to be manly means that he has virtually no joy in his life. His "hobbies" are watching TV, going out to drink and gambling. He has no female frien…
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 04:32 PM
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Why do you need an article? Do you think 80% of the men out there are single?
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 04:24 PM
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This is pointless you're not getting the message at all and clearly reluctant to accept feminism. I'm not talking about directly listening to a specific person, I'm talking about listening to the wider discourse. But it doesn't seem to me that you're ready for that conversation.
/r/ExRedPill25/04/23 09:48 AM
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Well I've been with my current girlfriend for about 4.5 years, we have an open relationship and I've had a number of dates/fwb type situations while we've been together. Before I met her I'd been in and out of various relationships since I was 15 (I'm 34 now), usually ranging from a few months to a year or so with a couple of brief fwb stints in between. I never managed to get a one night stand, never pulled women in clubs/bars etc, I've had plenty of dates that didn't go anywhere too. But I've …
/r/ExRedPill24/04/23 03:05 PM
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But when women tell you that they wish men wouldn't sexualise them all the time, or that men would show more sensitivity, or pay attention to how they talk about women with their peers, and when men tell you that those women are lying and all those women want is to fuck hot guys who have a lot of money, who do you listen to? Because a lot of RP shit is just guys telling other guys what women want, whilst also telling you to stop listening to women when they tell you what they want. And also how …
/r/ExRedPill24/04/23 01:52 PM
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Honestly most women do not like that "so called masculine man". I mean sure there are women out there who propagate the same toxic ideas of how to be masculine, but there are also lots of women out there who recognise that men who cry and is able to express emotions other than anger have a much healthier connection with their masculinity, their mental health, and are thus able to form better relationships. What's wrong with adopting it is that you're just maintaining this same toxic interpretati…
/r/ExRedPill24/04/23 01:49 PM
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Listening to women is how you understand what they want. Listening to women, respecting their desires and understanding what they go through in life is literally what feminism is. Yes, feminism is not clearly defined, but that's because every woman is going through different things and has different needs. But the first step in any of that is listening to women and respecting what they say, and learning why things are the way they are and why women feel the way they do. And in doing so, you also…
/r/ExRedPill24/04/23 12:09 PM
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No it isn't. "The red pill" is specifically about rejecting feminism and believing that there is a system set up to disadvantage men. You can learn to improve yourself and your way of living and thinking without some corny matrix reference. You can actually do a lot more to improve your chances in dating by actually embracing feminism and learning to listen to women and what they want. The red pill goes against that and teaches you to blame women and society for your own shortcomings.
/r/ExRedPill24/04/23 08:18 AM
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The point of being in this sub is to learn that that "truth" you're talking about is not actually the truth. Are you ready to learn and accept that? Because you're not going to make true progress here until you are.
/r/ExRedPill24/04/23 08:16 AM
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This is exredpill. If you're ready to let go of red pill ideas, we're here to help you. But talking like that in here will get you only negative reactions because we don't accept that these "rules" and this "game" actually align with reality.
/r/ExRedPill24/04/23 08:14 AM
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Lol nah.
/r/ExRedPill24/04/23 08:13 AM
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If redpill is what women want, why do SO MANY women say that it is in fact not what they want? If it's what women want, why do we see so many women coming here upset that their boyfriend/husband is getting into redpill stuff? Red pill is not about being what women want. It's about manipulating women to make them what those men want. That's why they have to keep it a secret. Because saying "I'm going to gaslight and manipulate you into doing the things I want you to do and use you for myself" isn…
/r/ExRedPill24/04/23 08:12 AM
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I think it's wrong because my income hasn't, at any point throughout my life, influenced my dating prospects. Whether I had more or less money, it made no difference to whether I could find a date or not. Same goes with status; I have no status, and yet I get dates. Looks are far more subjective than you think; I'm skinny, make very little effort with my appearance, still get dates. And I know guys who are also by no means gym gods (fat/thin/whatever) and they also have dates, relationships, eve…
/r/ExRedPill23/04/23 06:17 PM
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LOL ok buddy.
/r/ExRedPill09/04/23 02:39 PM
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The irony here is "Ugh someone on the internet won't argue with me" is the epitome of small dick energy.
/r/ExRedPill27/03/23 04:47 PM
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TL;DR.
/r/ExRedPill27/03/23 04:40 PM
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I'm not going to repeat myself. I've already explained it, as have others. If you can't read it then that's on you.
/r/ExRedPill27/03/23 02:53 PM
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Only it's not body shaming? Keep up.
/r/ExRedPill27/03/23 02:40 PM
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Who are you to say? My point is that if someone IS happy how they are, then that's fine. If someone ISN'T happy, then they can work on it and we should all give the help we can. It's not my place to tell someone whether they're happy or not just based on looking at them.
/r/ExRedPill26/03/23 08:03 AM
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But not everyone who's living with drugs and porn and a low income is "complaining". That's sort of my point. You're equating someone being comfortable and happy with their life with people who aren't comfortable and happy with their life. Furthermore, there's a lot of reasons why someone with depression won't do anything about it. I mean they literally have a mental illness that encourages them to not do anything about it, and describing someone as "weak" because they can't overcome their depre…
/r/ExRedPill25/03/23 06:58 PM
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Well, as before, I'm happy for people to be however they want to be so long as they're happy and aren't harming other people. You don't need to be working towards 6 figure Zeus chad whatever if you can learn to be happy with who you are and what you have. I'm a skinny guy with very little money, and could even openly describe myself as feminine in a lot of ways. I'm happy with who I am, I don't need to change, even though I am probably the dictionary definition of what a lot of those RP types wo…
/r/ExRedPill25/03/23 06:25 PM
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I have no idea what AT is. But honestly I'd rather someone be fat drunk and happy than be miserable because they believe they have to be built like Zeus and pulling a 6 figure salary to be classed as a "real man".
/r/ExRedPill25/03/23 05:42 PM
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Because there are a bunch of men out there who aren't able to move with the times and want to maintain some archaic and outdated idea of what men are supposed to be. Those are the men who call other men weak for doing things like looking after their mental health or being nice to other people or not wanting to do physical jobs or whatever bullshit they're whining about. Anyone who describes "modern men" as "weak" is not someone worth listening to. If anything they're the weak ones who crumple in…
/r/ExRedPill25/03/23 05:04 PM
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Or, something changed her mind over night. Shockingly, it's entirely possible for someone to change their mind overnight. There could be a million reasons why she changed her mind and there is not one single reason why she would want to mess you around like that. What would she actually get out of that?
/r/ExRedPill24/03/23 05:43 PM
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I recently found someone who has the same type of anxiety that I do. She said a bunch of sweet things to me, said how comfortable we were together and for the first time in my life I thought I found someone who understands me. That definitely sounds like you were bonding over mental health issues, which ultimately just turns into you using her for therapy. Even if she was using you for therapy at the same time. Either way, a relationship isn't supposed to be some kind of group therapy sponsor su…
/r/ExRedPill24/03/23 05:39 PM
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How was she not honest? She told you she doesn't want to carry on. That's an honest answer. Is it so hard to believe that people change their minds? Do you honestly think she spent that time before lying to you just for fun or something? She wanted it, you both started it up, and then she changed her mind and respectfully told you so. I can't tell you why. Only she can. But that does not mean she was not being honest and respectful. The fact that you think rejecting you is disrespectful is exact…
/r/ExRedPill24/03/23 08:30 AM
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Wow OK let's slow down and let's reassess what's going on here because I'm seeing so many problems in the way you're thinking that it's hard to know where to start. This is the most severe case of "looking for a girlfriend to be my therapist" that I have ever seen. You are treating these women like you need them to survive and you need them to fix your problems, and quite frankly it's no surprise to me that they're running the other way. Because NOBODY wants to do that. Then you're blaming the w…
/r/ExRedPill24/03/23 08:28 AM
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That's ok. Yes it makes sense that it would be heavily influenced by those around you. I think it is always good to look out for different opinions, to meet other people who think differently and to talk about it to understand why they think that way. I've spent a lot of time learning about my own sexuality and sexual desires, and I've learned a lot by listening to others and how they approach it.
/r/ExRedPill23/03/23 03:23 PM
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Because biology doesn't dictate that this RP claim is true at all. There's absolutely nothing reliable to back it up. This is just typical RP crap; make some wide claim to justify their shitty behaviour and then call it "biology" or "evolution". RP bros are not biologists or evolutionary anthropologists. You can claim it's "evolution" for men to sleep with multiple women because that would increase their chances of offspring. You can also claim it's "evolution" for a man to stay with a single pa…
/r/ExRedPill21/03/23 09:15 AM
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One really key thing to remember about privilege is that it doesn't mean you have something better, it means you don't have something worse. Many of the things that women experience because of discrimination, men also experience. They just don't experience it because of their gender. Acknowledging male privilege is not about ignoring the plights and problems that men face, nor is it about ignoring the problems that men face at higher rates or even exclusively when compared with women or non-bina…
/r/ExRedPill20/03/23 09:03 PM
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Also so many women have shared their stories of how they've been overlooked, ignored or straight up called liars by doctors when they've gone in to report pain. It can take years to get an endometriosis diagnosis, because it's so often just overlooked as "oh it's just period pain you're fine."
/r/ExRedPill20/03/23 08:59 PM
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Yea you're hitting the nail right on the head there. It's like people turn to this stuff because of loneliness, and it teaches the absolute best ways to stay lonely and prevent yourself from building any sort of connections and relationships that would help resolve that loneliness.
/r/ExRedPill20/03/23 09:55 AM
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Dating is hard when you don't know what you're doing, and by the sounds of it you don't know what you're doing. It's not "Game". It's not "getting" women. A relationship isn't an achievement that you score. The more you think of it as this challenge to complete like some kind of sport, the less success you will have. Stop with the "game" and focus on building meaningful relationships with yourself and with the people around you. Stop making it about "getting" a woman and make it about enjoying t…
/r/ExRedPill19/03/23 10:27 PM
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You're literally on an anti-red pill group, that's the point of this place. I don't subscribe to any pill and I'm literally here to help people learn how to detach themselves from such beliefs. None of my advice is about being lazy. My advice is that people shouldn't feel like they have to strive towards some arbitrary idea of "full potential" and instead they should focus on what makes them happy. You sitting at home playing computer games and avoiding women is miles away from following my advi…
/r/ExRedPill19/03/23 10:33 AM
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Also, you're literally on r/exredpill. The whole point of this sub is to help men free themselves from the red pill and all of its toxic ideas.
/r/ExRedPill19/03/23 09:29 AM
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"there's no such thing as toxic masculinity" (Proceeds to spout a bunch of toxic masculinity) "True men" don't use homophobic slurs towards other men for painting their nails or doing other feminine things. True men don't tolerate homophobia at all. We also support people out of their depressive states that might lead to complacency, but we do so while encouraging them to enrich their lives with the things that actually bring them joy, rather than some arbitrary definition of how to be a "succes…
/r/ExRedPill19/03/23 09:28 AM
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I'm encouraging people to live how they want to live, rather than following some arbitrary rules. OP can (and no doubt does) know about what being fat can do to your body, and OP can choose if they want that or not. Also "don't paint your nails because you'll be called names" is basically living your life just to suit bullies. How about "people who call men names for painting their nails are just bullies who are insecure about their own identity and jealous of your willingness to express yoursel…
/r/ExRedPill19/03/23 07:37 AM
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Yea it sounds to me like you have a lot of anxiety around sex and you're placing this idea of virginity way above more important things like sexual compatibility. Saving yourself until marriage will not prevent your relationship from facing problems later on, nor does having sex with someone only for it to not work out later on mean that you've somehow given something away or taken away the value of sex. And I wouldn't think about what other people think. Having sex before marriage is extremely …
/r/ExRedPill18/03/23 01:53 PM
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It's OK to do whatever the fuck you want. Surround yourself with the people who support you for who you are and remove those who try to stop you from expressing yourself. There are no rules but the ones we make for yourselves. You yourself get to choose if you follow the rules that others try to make for you. Paint your nails. Be fat. Do whatever you feel like and fuck everyone else.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/23 01:31 PM
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it's fine for you to do whatever you want. It's fine to pay for your own meal. It's fine to accept someone's generosity and let them pay for the meal and for them to not expect something in return. It's not fine for anyone to expect sex in return for something else, because sex is not a currency that is exchanged, and any guy who behaves in such a way is a douchebag anyway. Quite honestly, I'd accept the meals if they offer to pay, and if they then expect sex you will know he's a douchebag and y…
/r/ExRedPill18/03/23 01:23 PM
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Well, what are you looking for from a relationship? What are you expecting/hoping for in a potential partner?
/r/ExRedPill07/03/23 09:36 PM
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I was about to suggest the same. When he's thinking this way, his male friends will have a much better chance of intervening and leading him to question his views than any woman possibly could. He needs an intervention.
/r/ExRedPill03/03/23 12:15 PM
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Not a forum or anything, but this clip from Bobs Burgers cracked me up. And there's part two as well. I feel like it's a perfect demonstration of what the rest of the world thinks about red pill advice.
/r/ExRedPill23/02/23 09:59 PM
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Nice guys don't "finish last" at all. It's just an excuse that narcissists use to be shitty to other people because they want to make everything a competition. Don't ask what a "nice guy" is, ask what it is they're "finishing last" in.
/r/ExRedPill20/02/23 09:06 PM
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The fact that you're a 24 year old virgin with little family, no friends, and feel invisible has nothing to do with your skin colour. Plenty of caucasian men date caucasian women. You are simply choosing to focus on mixed race couples and somehow making this connection that women prefer other races. None of your misery is being caused by your skin colour. It is being caused by your lifestyle, and the content you're reading and the way you're thinking is feeding in to that misery. Speak to a ther…
/r/ExRedPill18/02/23 03:18 PM
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If you think there is any possibility that he might cut out all of this content, then that would be best for everyone. But you're not obliged to stay with him while he figures it out. If you decide to leave him, it would be worth making it clear to him that this RP content has turned him into someone you don't want to be with. It might knock some sense into him.
/r/ExRedPill15/02/23 12:16 PM
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Social media favours extreme and controversial content. It gets more engagement because it gets people's emotions up, whether they support it or disagree with it. And these guys know it does, so they intentionally play the algorithm to get more reach. If someone like Taint posts something really shocking, even people who don't like it will share it saying "this is shocking how is he allowed to say that!" or something, reaching even more people. If he was just some boring guy posting tips on how …
/r/ExRedPill13/02/23 05:46 PM
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Ok you can carry on getting upset over nothing, or you can take on board what I actually said. Your choice.
/r/ExRedPill12/02/23 09:01 AM
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But feminism isn't one sided. Both men and women benefit from dismantling patriarchal structures because really they harm us all. That's what feminism is about. It's not about putting down men so women have it better, and it's not about ignoring the issues that men experience, it's about recognising that essentially all of these issues are down to patriarchy, and thus working to change that. And I don't really like this idea that men are less capable of emotionally dealing with unfairness. First…
/r/ExRedPill12/02/23 08:59 AM
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I can almost guarantee that whatever you think "feminist" means, and whatever it is about feminism that you disagree with, is probably misinterpretation and likely based on some ideas that have been intentionally taken out of context and blown out of proportion by anti-feminist (misogynist) voices.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 09:40 PM
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Wouldn't it be better to identify as a feminist, rather than letting those few extremists claim feminism for themselves? I'd also say that the majority of the time, those "extremists" are usually taken out of context and blown out of proportion by right wing press. They're usually not representative of the wider feminist movement.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 09:39 PM
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Exactly. That's the whole message. Men know more about women than women. When women say that what those men believe is wrong, they're lying. It's dictionary definition gaslighting.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 05:26 PM
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/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 02:05 PM
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Some women will filter by height. Let them. That's their issue. If a woman is so determined to only date women of a specific height then she can live with the consequences of being so picky. Some men will only swipe right on women with big boobs and a tiny waist. Again; their problem. In reality, the point of this is to keep people on the app. I bet the men who are under the height the woman selected will still see those women, but the women will never see those men. That way the women see more …
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 09:46 AM
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Is this seriously a necessary part of being a man? No. It absolutely isn't and nor is that culture. That isn't typical "men dating culture" that's just misogyny. People who treat dating and women like it's some kind of game or competition are just generally awful people and not representative of what dating and relationships, and generally men, are actually like or what we're supposed to be like. Stop watching red pill stuff. Stop watching PUA videos. Stop hanging out with men who treat women li…
/r/ExRedPill09/02/23 11:39 AM
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It took me 5 seconds of looking at her Wiki and YouTube to say this is not someone I want to know or hear from at all. She seems extremely fucking toxic. You'd get a healthier commentary if you sat down and interviewed a core of plutonium-238.
/r/ExRedPill06/02/23 07:39 PM
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I think a huge part of why they are so popular is simply due to the fact that they're so controversial. Social media LOVES controversial content, it works so well for what they're trying to do (getting people to stay on the platform and interact to feed the algorithm more info). It's that and it's the fact that they use the exact same tactics as basically every fascist and extremist movement in history; offering an "alternative" to the downtrodden. Sure, all the other self help resources have th…
/r/ExRedPill06/02/23 05:58 PM
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I think there's a mix of guys who are here to see both sides, or might be just on the edge of questioning it but are still have the ideas quite deep in them. And then probably some who don't question it at all and just want to antagonise and troll. But how you tell the two apart is difficult. Either way, the ones who are offering the contrarian points of view are still people who need help.
/r/ExRedPill28/01/23 09:25 PM
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It would be interesting to see a poll of who is here because they're trying to get out of red pill, and how many are here to help others get out.
/r/ExRedPill28/01/23 10:57 AM
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Well yes obviously. I never said anyone is entitled or that there are no risks or anything.
/r/ExRedPill27/01/23 04:43 PM
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In all fairness, you didn't give any "advice" at all, just a bunch of stats. So that "advice" is there for anyone, however they interpret it.
/r/ExRedPill26/01/23 07:31 PM
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Well whatever, get laid, find a girlfriend, whatever you're looking for. It doesn't matter. My point still remains. I've had girlfriends that I met on Tinder. It happens. And using it increases your chance of being found by someone else who is looking for a partner. Also, it's perfectly healthy to just want to get laid. Let's not shame people who just want casual sex.
/r/ExRedPill26/01/23 07:13 PM
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Of course it takes time and effort. So does going to bars and enjoying hobbies. I'm not suggesting you can just download tinder and get laid tonight. Yes, the apps have poor mechanics and they're exploitative, and a lot of people use them with the wrong expectations. They're flawed, of course they are. But if you can go in with realistic expectations, and find the small amount of time it takes, they're definitely worthwhile.
/r/ExRedPill26/01/23 05:42 PM
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I'm aware of how the algorithms work, but I'm also aware of how people actually use the apps, which is that you're not "competing" because it's not about who is the best, it's about who matches closest to what this particular woman is looking for. And that could just as well be you or anyone else depending on what she's into. Either way the point still remains; being on there increases your chances of being seen and finding a date.
/r/ExRedPill26/01/23 05:05 PM
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So? If I was to look at my own city, there are apparently about 125,000 men and 125,000 women between the ages of 20-29. If we assume even just 1% of all of those are on tinder, that would work out as about 2,500 people, of which there are 1,950 men and 550 women. Or if it's a European city (which it is actually), that's 2,250 men and 250 women. More likely the numbers are much higher You might look at that and think "uh, I don't stand a chance against so many other men." But here's the problem …
/r/ExRedPill26/01/23 11:17 AM
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They're not a "specific group" they're people displaying narcissistic behaviour. And I'm well aware they're a smaller group. That's basically my point.
/r/ExRedPill21/01/23 11:02 AM
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I live in Europe where the average is 5'11. Either way it's under 6' which is apparently the required criteria (only it isn't)
/r/ExRedPill21/01/23 10:05 AM
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That's not what I'm saying. The whole overall message of the red pill is narcissistic and centred on competition and believing you're better than everyone else. There are men and women out there who subscribe to that way of thinking - whether they've been watching the content or not. There are men who won't date a woman who has even the slightest bit of fat on her body anywhere other than her ass and boobs. Or they won't date a woman who's had sex with a few other men before. And there are women…
/r/ExRedPill21/01/23 10:03 AM
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What group of women?
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 09:47 PM
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As someone who is self employed, I honestly cannot recommend it enough. The freedom it's given me is like nothing else and I honestly hope I never have to go back to working a "regular job" again. If I heard someone telling me they wanted to go self employed or start a business I would literally pounce on them to give them advice and info on how to do it. BUT It's fucking hard work. There have been many, many times where I almost lost it. I've had to be bailed out by friends and family a few tim…
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 11:05 AM
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If I was the same as I am and I was taller and richer and more muscular, I'd attract those same narcissistic women. Which wouldn't interest me at all because I wouldn't want to date them. I date good women. Give me one example of where I've given a red pill comment.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 10:44 AM
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I'll be honest, trying to tell me that the only reason I'm getting anything is because I'm dating unattractive women is a pretty wild take. You're not talking about "attractive women" you're talking about narcissists. Redpill guys are narcissists and they are trying to date narcissists, because that's the world they live in. Narcissists will be far more selective about who they date; for example narcissistic women won't date short men because of how it impacts how they look in public. It's not t…
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 10:42 AM
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Honestly I feel like this is just it. Like they are narcissists, so they have bad relationships, but then because they're narcissists they blame the women for it and say they have unreasonable expectations. No my dude. You're just an asshole.
/r/ExRedPill19/01/23 11:22 PM
8

It's all fun and games until somebody farts.
/r/ExRedPill19/01/23 07:17 PM
5

It's such a revelation when you realise women are actually just people.
/r/ExRedPill19/01/23 07:12 PM
7

Absolutely it exists. I've seen Tinder profiles that say shit like "under 6ft swipe left" or shit like that. But it's fine. Because you can swipe left on shitty people like that and go find good people instead.
/r/ExRedPill19/01/23 07:11 PM
9

Oh yea I forgot to add I have a pretty huge nose.
/r/ExRedPill19/01/23 07:10 PM
5

You absolutely do not need them and they will teach you nothing of value. If you want to learn social skills and dating skills and relationship skills, go socialise, go dating, go have relationships. If you want to understand how women work and what women think, spend some time talking to women. It's a good thing you didn't drink the kool-aid because honestly, it's poison.
/r/ExRedPill19/01/23 04:51 PM
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Let me put it this way: I'm 5'10, underweight, I have no money, I'm average looking at best, and I'm regularly told how nice I am. I've never had a problem getting dates. I've had a healthy romantic and sexual history since I was 15 years old. If any of that stuff was true, the vast majority of men would never get dates and we'd all be single forever. The reality is that those guys are narcissists who are stuck in this idea that everything is a competition and only the best get to win anything. …
/r/ExRedPill19/01/23 04:45 PM
3

Do you think you naturally fit that description? If not, how would that give you fulfilment? Don't you think you'd be working to transform yourself into something else rather than embracing your true self?
/r/ExRedPill18/01/23 02:45 PM
5

But what does that mean? What is "masculine" and why do you feel it's necessary to fit that specific role? Do you naturally want to fit that role, or do you find yourself trying to make yourself more masculine because you believe it's important? I'm asking this as a man who isn't particularly masculine and yet has a very fulfilling life.
/r/ExRedPill18/01/23 02:05 PM
2

Let's look at it though; why do you have to be more masculine? Why does it matter?
/r/ExRedPill18/01/23 11:37 AM
2

Oh absolutely, and the fact that there are people out there literally teaching other people to use these methods is insideous. For anyone to give this as advice on how to date or form relationships is vile. I think the problem is that those who actually take these ideas on board genuinely cannot process that another person has feelings and so don't really consider the ethics of it. If they could, they would instinctively not do it.
/r/ExRedPill17/01/23 08:32 PM
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Well said. This really links quite well with those fairly vague suggestions of "just be yourself" or "stop trying to find someone and someone will come along" sort of advice. Ultimately building relationships, finding dates and so on is often seen as this process with tactics and methods and tricks to seduce women, and that's exactly why so many fail. When you stop treating it like a game, and just focus on being good to yourself and learning to socialise in healthy ways without pressure, you'll…
/r/ExRedPill17/01/23 10:39 AM
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I just wonder what kind of people you were before and how you reached the point where this is how you communicate with each other. Either you've never been able to properly communicate your feelings with each other, or things have dramatically descended since you got married.
/r/ExRedPill15/01/23 06:34 PM
74

Honestly from this conversation alone this whole relationship sounds toxic and I'm not sure why either of you married each other. There's a hell of a lot more going on here than this one little exchange tells us.
/r/ExRedPill15/01/23 05:27 PM
3

What you're experiencing is confirmation bias. You've been told that this is how the world works, and so you're able to find examples of it working like that. Sure, in some contexts, what the red pill teaches will be true. There are women out there who only care about the thickness of your arms and your wallet. There are women who will only date you based on your social status. There are women who cheat and lie. There are women who will not be interested in you if you don't represent this specif…
/r/ExRedPill12/01/23 04:25 PM
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It's very easy to point out contradictions in RP content once you spend even a minute thinking about it. All of their expectations are unrealistic and dated. I think a lot of RP content is heavily based on very dated ideas of roles of men and women, roles that in their minds cannot be changed and must be maintained, because they are inherent and evolutionary/biological. Women are biologically programmed into care roles, men are biologically programmed into provider roles. If we were still living…
/r/ExRedPill11/01/23 02:20 PM
1

No not at all. I'm all for working a 9-5, or starting a business, or doing whatever you want to or have to. My point is more that "self made millionaire" is rarely a real thing and virtually all of them will at the very least have come from very wealthy families. Even if they might have worked for someone else, there's a gulf of difference between the child of a wealthy family getting some experience and having to work so you don't end up homeless. I'd also say that there's virtually no way to b…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 08:35 PM
1

Yea it's exactly those "entrepreneurs" I'm talking about. Bezos started out with a $300,000 investment from his parents. Musk's dad owned an emerald mine, Richard Branson's dad was a barrister and he went to a prep school...it goes on. You'll be hard pressed to find a billionaire who genuinely made it from nothing or grew up in some working class household.
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 05:28 PM
6

To be honest, most millionaires and billionaires came from millionaire and billionaire families and never actually had to work to survive.
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 12:45 PM
4

This is pretty much what we talk about when we talk about toxic masculinity. These ideas that to be a man you must be this very specific idea of what a man is, and that doing anything else is feminine and weak. It's nonsense and these guys are pushing really unhealthy ideas of how men should behave. Other things men can't do if they want to be masculine: Enjoying sunsets Recycling Hold your phone the wrong way Put your hands over your mouth in the wrong way It goes on...
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 12:43 PM
1

You're absolutely right, you shouldn't put up with someone who can't healthily communicate their emotions and makes your life a problem because of it. But nor should you just wait for her to open up; sometimes you have to ask too. It goes both ways. Everyone is different. Every woman is different. Some will do a terrible job of communicating their emotions or problems and won't process them properly, and they might also come out just as a burst of rage or crying. Lots of men do it too. None of u…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 12:31 PM
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First note: check the description of that video. "...how to resolve it so she goes back to being your sweet playmate instead of your bitch from hell". Any guy who talks about women like that is not someone you should be looking to for advice on women. It should really be a mix; we should be able to recognise when our partner is in distress, and our partner should be able to open up about things when they're in distress without prompt. And in many cases it does indeed work like that. But for that…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/23 05:33 PM
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Yes there are alternatives. Firstly, I hate this suggestion that women will just cheat at the first opportunity. Sure, some will, just like some men will. But I doubt cheating is actually as common as these red pill guys will have you think. However, it would also be true that some women will break up with you if they don't enjoy sex with you. But guess what, plenty of guys will also break up with a girl (or cheat on her) if she doesn't satisfy his sexual needs. However however, there are also p…
/r/ExRedPill08/01/23 12:03 AM
2

"A lot of red pilled dudes seem to think women are into bad guys, but they also forget that actually a lot of them aren't" End thread.
/r/ExRedPill07/01/23 07:25 PM
1

Like I said, creeps.
/r/ExRedPill07/01/23 04:00 PM
3

So if you'd bothered reading any of it, you'd understand that it has nothing to do with body shaming. Everyone has the same opportunity to learn about what a phrase means. Just like everyone has the opportunity to learn that the size of their genitals has minimal impact on their sexual abilities.
/r/ExRedPill01/01/23 01:06 PM
1

Yea I know, and I said that myself in another (actually several) comments on here. I just wanted to reply to that to say that no, we don't bodyshame bad people either. And indeed, small dick energy isn't body shaming.
/r/ExRedPill01/01/23 09:38 AM
3

You're still missing the point and I'm not explaining it again.
/r/ExRedPill01/01/23 12:45 AM
4

Again, we're not using "small dick" as an insult, we're insulting how someone is behaving. Find my other comment on here where I gave more of an explanation, I'm not writing it out again.
/r/ExRedPill01/01/23 12:33 AM
3

Well not really because those terms don't really have any meaning. What would "fat girl energy" mean? By all means a term like that might catch on if people create a meaning for it, but until you do you're just calling people fat.
/r/ExRedPill01/01/23 12:28 AM
2

But nobody said he has a little dick. She said he has small dick energy. That's the crucial element here. Big dick energy has been used for a long time now to describe someone's behaviour, regardless of their dick size or if they even have a dick. And small dick energy is the same. It's nothing to do with physical penis size, it's to do with behaviour.
/r/ExRedPill01/01/23 12:25 AM
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It's simply a matter of understanding what is meant by "big/small dick energy". Anyone, regardless of gender or dick size can have big/small dick energy. It's not about what you physically have, it's about how you swing it.
/r/ExRedPill01/01/23 12:24 AM
2

It's not their own fault, but it's also their responsibility to figure it out and fix their attitude.
/r/ExRedPill31/12/22 12:02 PM
2

But it's associated with bodyshaming by people who don't understand the message, and to those who have a warped idea of how much impact dick size has on a guys value.
/r/ExRedPill31/12/22 11:15 AM
2

I've never seen any of this, thanks for sharing. Doesn't detract from the point though.
/r/ExRedPill31/12/22 09:27 AM
2

But that's because "small dick energy" isn't actually body shaming. It's talking about someone's attitude and behaviour, about whether they act like someone who is self conscious because they place all of their own self worth in the size of their dick, rather than whether or not they actually have a small dick.
/r/ExRedPill31/12/22 09:18 AM
3

The problem is the impact it has on others who you are not directly trying to insult. For example, making some comment about Andrew Taint being bald (personally I don't think there's anything wrong with being bald but it's a common body shaming point). Realistically, Andrew Taint isn't going to hear your comment, but it has an impact on the other bald people who might hear/read your comment, who had nothing to do with it. I'm sure you wouldn't want to comment on Andrew Taint being bald if you we…
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 10:38 PM
5

Maybe have a read of some of the other comments on here and you'll understand what it's actually about.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 05:41 PM
3

Body Shaming just isn't good, period. If someone is a horrible person, then there's plenty more to take aim at than their body.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 05:40 PM
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Steve Albini summed it up perfectly in this tweet. Not mocking people with small dicks. Mocking people who internalized dick size as a measure of manliness & power, telling them nobody thinks they are manly or powerful and nobody believes they have a big dick, which is the part that hurts them and makes the mockery fun." In essence, it's not about the dick size, it's about the attitude and behaviour. There are plenty of guys out there with small dicks who can give big dick energy (being confiden…
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 05:39 PM
19

It's bullshit. I'm a man in my 30s and I would absolutely prefer to date a woman similar to my age to someone much younger, as would most men my age. I see hot women in their 30s, 40s, even 50s and beyond. Of course, we all get a bit older, but as you age you also recognise that you're older yourself and so you acknowledge other people's ageing with a sort of empathy. We're all in the same boat. My hairline is receding and I've got a few greys popping up. My girlfriend is ageing like any other w…
/r/ExRedPill28/12/22 10:33 PM
10

He is intentionally exploiting this audience for his own popularity and personal gain. If it is indeed a character (and I have no way to say for sure that it is), it's a persona he is intentionally playing for the sake of exploiting others, knowing perfectly well the harm and damage he is causing. He's pouring fuel on the fire. So yes. It's his fault.
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 10:48 PM
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3.3 million people are following this talking anus on Twitter. And he's turning people into the same toxic douchebag that his "character" is because they believe he has it right. He's turning men into hateful shitheels. It's a problem.
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 10:07 PM
24

Jesus Christ I thought he was gone. But no, he's back on Shitter and he has 3.3 million morons following him. Fuck that hellsite into the sun.
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 10:02 PM
3

3 points to this: 1) Women are not "conquered" by men; a man having sex with a woman is not "conquering" her. It's a mutual experience between two people and there doesn't need to be any power dynamic involved. 2) It goes in all directions. Men, women, enbies; if you don't want to stick to the rules that someone else wants in a relationship, leave the relationship. Don't cheat. If you don't like the rules of a relationship, don't be in a relationship 3) Let's not overlook that nonmonogamous rela…
/r/ExRedPill26/12/22 08:08 PM
2

Preference does not equal specification. Women are not only going to date those guys. I'm sure girls that look like supermodels will get more likes than "average" looking girls too, but that doesn't mean we're only going to date supermodels. It's the same both ways.
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 03:48 PM
2

First step: cut out all this manosphere content. All of it. Delete your YouTube account and start a new one. Get rid of TikTok, unfollow all the Instagram accounts or whatever else you have. Get rid of the channels showing you "a lot of attractive guys". This shit is telling you lies and you don't need to hear it. Next, go out and look around you. Go to some bars or restaurants or parks or even a supermarket or wherever you can be where you can see lots of people, and look for the couples. What …
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 01:12 PM
9

I'd never heard of "dread game" until now, but having quickly looked it up I believe it's more often just spelled "manipulation". This isn't something that anyone should be doing in a healthy relationship, and if someone believes that's what they need to do to maintain a relationship then what they really need to do is work on their self esteem and trust in their partner. Really, that's what the majority of red-pill teachings are; you are a man who is no good and has no value and you can't chang…
/r/ExRedPill20/12/22 05:11 PM
1

It's unreasonable to expect such an opinion to be changed by a few Reddit comments. Things like this take a lot of work of relearning ideas and overcoming a lot of anxieties. We'd do well to not be too dismissive of people like this. It may seem like they're just spouting angry rants but usually they're really looking for help.
/r/ExRedPill13/12/22 10:14 PM
1

He replied privately.
/r/ExRedPill13/12/22 08:15 PM
1

OK and again, I'm not going to argue with you about who has it worse, and I very much could show you plenty of stats that disprove almost everything you've shown so far. But I'm not here to win arguments. All I want is for you to just realise that this is just an incredibly unhealthy way to assess how your life is and how it can be. Without even going out there to try anything, you're just accepting that you must be a "nearly perfect individual in order to have a good experience" and I can tell …
/r/ExRedPill13/12/22 11:24 AM
1

So here's the thing. Stats aren't a reasonable way to assess anything to do with how your life is and how it could be. For every stat you have showing me men have it worse, I can find one showing you that women have it worse. Sentiment online is selective. For every man online complaining about how bad his life is, there's another 10 out there who aren't on here complaining because they don't have anything to complain about. You're telling me how dating works based on "stats and general sentimen…
/r/ExRedPill13/12/22 10:53 AM
5

Tell me honestly, where is all of this coming from? Who is telling you that this is how women work? What are you basing it on?
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 05:37 PM
3

Look I'll just put it like this: I am, by just about any measure, an "average" man. In fact in a lot of measures I'm probably below average. I'm about average height (just under 6ft), but very underweight and a million miles from this buff sculpted body that we're told is the optimum. I don't make much money at all, never really have and don't care to make much more than whatever I need. I have a severe anxiety problem which has at times left me housebound. I might do fine socialising, but only …
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 04:35 PM
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I hate that my body and my looks have no value What value your looks have are nothing to do with gender. Plenty of women feel the same, and plenty of women also hate that their looks are often the only thing about them that people value. What value your looks have will depend on what value you put on them yourself, and the people who you surround yourself with. What value are you hoping your looks and body can have? I hate that I have no intrinsic worth, and always be expected to provide somethi…
/r/ExRedPill12/12/22 03:14 PM
2

There will indeed be women who won't find you attractive because of your height. There will also be women who will find you attractive because of your height. Some will love that you've been working out at the gym, some would prefer a chubby/skinny guy. What makes you think you're seen like shit by women? Which women have said this to you? Or are you just assuming that? What you should do is remember that all women are different, they all have different tastes, different preferences, and in them…
/r/ExRedPill11/12/22 09:34 PM
6

You get confident by putting yourself into situations you feel confident in, and/or by regularly exposing yourself to things that help you learn to overcome that anxiety. Remember that socialising isn't about "validation". It's about connecting with someone. If you find people you have something in common with, then you can connect. For example, I saw from your profile you're interested in Pokemon. I don't know much about Pokemon, so I'm sure if I asked you about it, you could feel confident to …
/r/ExRedPill09/12/22 03:59 PM
5

"As someone who doesn't even know what the word anthropology means, I'm definitely certain that this is a fact about how women have evolved to behave. I know it's true because I've observed it in all of the 3 women I've ever spoken to."
/r/ExRedPill01/12/22 09:46 AM
24

I'd say anything that talks about "biological" and "evolutionary" things in dating is something to steer clear of.
/r/ExRedPill30/11/22 11:11 AM
6

You don't need to worry about that right now, that's something to deal with later down the line once you've got out of this situation. Life isn't about being in a relationship. It's not some ultimate goal that you have to tick off and strive for. You as a person are not measured by whether or not you're single, or a virgin, or whatever else. Relationships are supposed to be a bonus to our lives. They're supposed to be something that we voluntarily enter into with another person who brings joy in…
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 09:51 PM
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In what way is being in an abusive relationship "lucky"? Leave her, then once you've recovered from this you can go out and do your own approaching instead of waiting for some abuser to take advantage of you.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 09:43 PM
4

So? Are you going to stay in an awful, violent and abusive relationship just so you can be in a relationship? Is being able to say you're not single so important that you'll live through something that is clearly a lot worse than actually being single?
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 09:39 PM
6

Look for what?
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 09:38 PM
6

She sounds manipulative and abusive and she's using you as a literal punching bag to release her issues instead of going to therapy and getting some actual help. You don't have to take the shit. It is not your obligation. Being a "good man" is not about sitting there and tolerating abuse. Being a good man is about offering the support you are capable of. It's caring for someone when they're having a bad day, but also taking care of yourself. You're not a therapist, nor is taking this shit out on…
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 09:35 PM
40

No you aren't. Don't listen to anyone who calls you a wimp for not tolerating domestic violence.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 09:28 PM
3

Not really relevant to the conversation but I always felt "codependency" is such a misleading term. I always thought surely it's a good thing for two people to be able to depend on each other in a mutual way - but of course that's not what it means. They really aught to just call it dependency.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 12:11 PM
3

The important thing to remember is that a girlfriend is not a therapist or your mother; it is a mutual, two-directional relationship where two lives overlap each other. She will also have her own problems to deal with. She's a fully formed human with a life of her own and all of the baggage that comes with that. The purpose of entering into a relationship is that the two of you bring joy into each other's lives. But part of that deal is that as you connect emotionally, you accept that you also h…
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 12:07 PM
10

It's always a scam and utter nonsense. In a sense "making money online" could mean a million things. Virtually anyone who runs a business will in some way use the internet to make money, but they're usually selling some kind of skill or trade or product - one that's often been honed through college education or similar. But that's not what these guys are usually on about. They'll be talking about trading Bitcoin or drop-shipping or scalping or becoming a YouTuber or MLM or some other oversaturat…
/r/ExRedPill25/11/22 12:05 AM
3

Thank you. Yes it's why I'm here really, I know how these people work and how they take advantage of vulnerable young men (and women sometimes too). Therapy is always a good idea, but not so easy to access, so I hope I can help some people along the way.
/r/ExRedPill22/11/22 03:03 PM
1

I wouldn't know for sure. I feel like I see a lot of comments from (what I assume to be) women, but it's impossible to tell with Reddit I guess.
/r/ExRedPill22/11/22 02:57 PM
8

I'm not sure if I'm reading these numbers correctly, but it seems like there are a lot of people subscribed here who are still using a lot of RP/MGTOW type communities. I guess that shouldn't be surprising, but I feel like if people actually want to spit out the pill and leave behind those ideologies, you really have to rid yourself of those communities. I get that going cold turkey won't be easy for a lot of people, but the longer you take to leave those communities, the harder it is going to b…
/r/ExRedPill22/11/22 12:56 PM
3

Here's what I can tell you. I'm a skinny dude, emotionally vulnerable and expressive. I have floppy soft hair. I couldn't fix a car to save my life. I've no interest in sports. I write songs that are basically poetry. I cry at movies and I squeal at cute puppies. I'm vegan. I openly describe myself as a feminist. I don't make much money. I lean somewhere into the LGBTQ+ spectrum. ...And I have absolutely no trouble getting dates, relationships, or even casual sex. If anything, all of the above i…
/r/ExRedPill21/11/22 11:28 AM
4

My friend, you need to look for professional therapy. We are all here to help, but the PTSD and childhood trauma that you're processing goes beyond what Reddit can help you with. The most important thing to remember here is that you are not alone in this, nor are you to blame, nor are you beyond help. You were vulnerable and people took advantage of you, and it is completely reasonable that you were so adversely affected by what you have been through. With a professional therapist, they will be …
/r/ExRedPill21/11/22 09:28 AM
8

Dudes can make money on OF too. Of course, how good you look will have a huge impact on that, but that's also true for women. Generally the people in this world who can make decent money based purely on how they look is insanely small, regardless of gender. We could also get into a discussion of how women are only able to make that sort of money because of how they are hugely overly sexualised and objectified by men, how it is in fact men who buy this stuff who make it possible for women to do t…
/r/ExRedPill19/11/22 12:42 PM
5

Thing is, it's perfectly possible for sex to be the most important thing in your life and not be a dick about it. You just have to not be a narcissist and have respect for others, and treat others as human beings. But yea, these are the guys who will throw their own best friend under a bus for the puss.
/r/ExRedPill18/11/22 10:01 PM
9

I think those sorts of contradictions really just highlight the main issue with any of these red pill types, and really anyone else who tries to make these massive sweeping generalisations based on some vague trait. "Men are like this" "Women are like that" "Boomers like to do this" "Capricorns are really prone to do that" etc etc. Yes, I would compare anyone trying to give men advice on how to be a man with horoscopes. They're honestly that accurate. Humans just simply aren't that simple. You c…
/r/ExRedPill18/11/22 09:59 PM
1

I'm not 100% sure to be honest. CBT is for changing behavioural patterns, I've heard good things about EMDR too, or possibly just some traditional talking therapy could help you figure out what's going on in your head and you can do CBT self help from there. It's best to chat with one or two different therapists and find out which one might be best for you.
/r/ExRedPill18/11/22 11:23 AM
3

Jesus I'm so sorry you had to experience something like that. This is exactly what the whole RP/PUA attitude is all about; men who believe they should be allowed to take whatever they want, that they somehow deserve your body and should be entitled to it, and then absolutely blowing up and resorting to abuse and violence when they don't get their own way. Good for you for finally standing up to it. Nobody deserves to be treated like that, and the more women like you speak up about it, the more t…
/r/ExRedPill17/11/22 11:40 AM
5

It's not always easy to access, but I honestly just recommend therapy. I find a lot of self-help stuff to be lacking and vague, when sometimes what you really need is someone who can actually connect with you on a personal level and offer you some individual guidance. There's lots to talk about here, like what's motivating you to pursue such an intensive academic career, why you feel you need to prioritise that over what might make you happy, possible social anxieties, expectations, and who know…
/r/ExRedPill17/11/22 09:27 AM
3

At the very very best, if it did happen at all, this was some woman/group of women - probably a bit drunk - using an aggressive tactic to get rid of some guys they didn't want around. There's also every chance that she had already shown that she wasn't interested but her signals/words weren't respected and so they resorted to nuclear tactics.
/r/ExRedPill17/11/22 09:24 AM
9

No. What's causing this rise is conversations and comments like this being taken totally out of context, or these tiny, individual comments - which are genuinely rare amongst feminist discourse - being amplified by anti-feminist voices. See how they just grab this "FEMINIST SAID THIS" attitude. They don't even understand what "feminist" means. They talk about feminists as if we are some single unified mind and that we all agree with each other and that one woman who appeared on a TV show that wa…
/r/ExRedPill17/11/22 09:21 AM
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Maybe if these men spent less time blaming women for all of their own problems and actually learned to treat women like humans and show them mutual respect, they wouldn't be dealing with this "male sexlessness epidemic". You're 100% right on the narcissism front. That's really all they are. They push this idea of competition amongst men, this belief that you have to be an "alpha" and that being who they are somehow means they deserve women. Then they get mad when they don't get those women, and …
/r/ExRedPill14/11/22 01:53 PM
2

Ugh what a weak man, he even cried. No women want a man like that. Which is why she....I mean she....no wait hang on...
/r/ExRedPill13/11/22 02:13 PM
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The absolute quickest way to lose any woman's interest is to use terms like "alpha males" unironically.
/r/ExRedPill12/11/22 10:27 AM
1

Help with what? Why did you send me this?
/r/ExRedPill11/11/22 10:27 AM
27

You really, really need professional help. Reddit can only do so much for you. You need to speak to an actual professional therapist who can unpick what is happening and why you're resorting to this.
/r/ExRedPill08/11/22 11:21 AM
6

Bang on.
/r/ExRedPill03/11/22 11:48 AM
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I get your point but I'd say you're projecting here. Firstly, I don't think many people look at casual sex as their long term solution for life in general. Most people would typically settle down eventually either way, that's the norm, and when that happens in someone's life will vary radically. Some people will meet their wife while they're still a teenager. Some people will sleep around well into their 30s and still end up in a perfectly healthy, functional marriage with kids. Some people migh…
/r/ExRedPill03/11/22 11:48 AM
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I think the best solution here is to spend more time with women and listening to women. You need to hear their perspectives and take it on board. One of the best ways to develop empathy with people is to be around them and to listen to them to get a deeper understanding of their perspective. And in the meantime to cut out any media that feeds these negative ideas that you keep coming back to. One hot tip on the promiscuity front: remember that being promiscuous is largely about bodily autonomy. …
/r/ExRedPill30/10/22 06:51 PM
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Coping with what?
/r/ExRedPill30/10/22 04:22 PM
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Sure, I've messaged women who didn't seem to make the effort in the conversation. Then I just unmatch with them and go and find someone who actually wants to have a conversation and is interested. Clearly, yes.
/r/ExRedPill29/10/22 04:23 PM
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We are our own worst critic. Honestly you've just said you're extremely boring and then listed a whole bunch of interests you have. Then you've started talking about not even being able to laugh properly? Like is that something people even think about? Socialising is a skill that you develop. It's not something you're just given, although yes some find it easier to develop than others. Go out and do things with other people and make some friends. Maybe there's an anime club you can join. Or if y…
/r/ExRedPill27/10/22 09:30 AM
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The most detailed answer I could give is "however the fuck they want". I don't feel like anyone should be telling anyone how to live; especially based on their gender. I would say that women in their 20s should live in a way that brings them the most fulfilment whilst not bringing harm to others, but I'd say the same for literally everyone else. Do what you like. Just don't be a dick.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/22 08:04 AM
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Sure, but I'd maybe say they could do with getting to a point of being able to establish healthy vanilla relationships before they should get onto the details of how to manipulate a sub's behaviour. learn to walk before you learn to run kinda thing.
/r/ExRedPill23/10/22 03:14 PM
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I really don't think many people coming away from red pill ideology are ready to talk BDSM.
/r/ExRedPill23/10/22 02:50 PM
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Women set up those rules now did they? Why is it that when I disregarded those apparent rules, I had a much easier time meeting women, getting dates, getting relationships? You know where I've heard body positivity from men? Do you know who argues against strict gender roles being imposed on men? Feminists. Every women I know, all of whom would identify as feminists, all talk about the very toxic patriarchal ideas of masculinity that you've just listed, and talk about how they harm both men and …
/r/ExRedPill23/10/22 10:05 AM
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Only if they're narcissists. Most women aren't narcissists.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 09:37 PM
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I disagree. I think if Andrew Tate had been taken off YouTube and the like sooner, before he built up more of a following, most of us wouldn't even know his name. His following would be a mere fraction of what it is now because most people wouldn't even get the chance to hear him. The only people who would find out about him would be those who were already actively seeking his ideas, those who were already thinking about it anyway.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 04:24 PM
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But the harder you make it for people to find this content, the less chance it has to spread. Censorship and banning isn't going to make it go away, but it makes it a damn sight harder for it to gain momentum and reach new eyes. Not only that, but when we ban or block something, it usually comes with some level of shaming and open criticism. And that can also discourage people from going digging to find it. Censorship can actually make a big difference, but it does still absolutely have to be mo…
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 09:34 AM
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This is exactly why I am here. I'm a man, I have never been red pilled, and I want to be a voice to those men who are at risk of it, or are looking to get away from it. It saddens me to see these narcissists pushing their toxic world views so hard, and seeing so many boys and young men swallowing it down, and then of course the impact that these have on women who are subjected to the abusive behaviour that these men act out. There is a lot that can be done to stop men falling into these holes; b…
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 09:31 AM
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I think you have to be of a certain mindset, or approaching from a particular place to think the dating market is "toxic" by which point you're probably already falling into this same red pill ideology that these guys are sharing.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/22 09:13 PM
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You're literally never going to be able to change your height or the size of your penis so why are you even asking this? I'm not a woman, but I can tell you that when it comes to a choice between a bigger dick or a taller man, most women will trade both for a guy who isn't so incredibly insecure about his physical shape.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/22 06:31 PM
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Yea that's what I thought. Social media has really pushed this idea that anyone can be famous and there are a lot of people out there (narcissists) who believe they deserve it and will put themselves through this shit for it. That's just the thing too; narcissists attract narcissists, and ultimately they're all just trying to use each other for their own personal gains. Once someone can spot this, you can recognise that something like Fresh n Fit is not representative of the rest of the world. J…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/22 09:13 AM
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Spend more time with women. Stop following any red pill content and start actually spending time with women, having conversations with them, talking to them the same way you would talk to any men. Sure, it will take time, but you need to spend that time actively learning the right things and being around the people who will help you.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/22 09:11 AM
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This is just yet another example of how these red pillers are just narcissists who believe that their world view is the only world view. They are the main character, they have to have everything their way, and all the other NPCs in it are just there for their own sake. For a man like that, being "defied" by your partner is a sign of disrespect, and yet the idea of showing respect to someone else is entirely alien to them. They are completely detached from reality, void of empathy and incapable o…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/22 09:02 AM
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I know I do.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/22 06:32 PM
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TikTok is not a representation of reality. It's a selection of the content that draws the most attention. Unsurprisingly, women wearing not very much is a very popular form of content. Secondly, the fact that a woman might express herself visually and enjoy her own physical appearance and sexuality does not make her a "hoe". Just because a woman posts bikini photos, or does some sexy dancing, or even has her own OnlyFans, doesn't mean that she's out having sex with everyone all the time. Thirdly…
/r/ExRedPill19/10/22 06:32 PM
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I honestly don't get why any women would go on that show, but I guess they see an opportunity to get famous? Some people out there will tolerate some pretty awful things for the sake of 15 mins of fame.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/22 03:55 PM
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I'd say staying in an abusive relationship for fear of not being able to find someone is much weaker than standing up for yourself and walking away, wouldn't you? I dunno what it's like where you're from, but it honestly isn't that hard to "get someone in this day and age." You just have to know what you're doing. You are capable of finding someone far better than this. Even still, I'd rather be single than be with someone who treated me like shit. Being in a relationship is not a requirement in…
/r/ExRedPill19/10/22 02:01 PM
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Will that alone stop her? No. Could it have some influence? Yes maybe a little. It might help her recognise her actions to hear it from someone other than her partner, or someone other than a man if she has this particular mindset instilled in her. Things like this are so extremely variable and broad that there's simply no straight, flat answer as "another woman can speak to her and that will stop her from treating someone badly." Most likely she needs some in depth therapy to get to the root of…
/r/ExRedPill19/10/22 12:25 PM
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Just from that I watched maybe 15 seconds of Fresh n Fit and holy shit that is annoying why the hell does anyone watch that?
/r/ExRedPill19/10/22 09:24 AM
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I don't know what it is and I can still say no it's not real. Virtually everything that red pill presenters explain is not real. Sure, there will be instances of just about anything you can pick out, but the vast, vast majority of it is entirely bullshit.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/22 05:44 PM
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I doubt it. I have my girlfriend, we'll likely have a family together eventually, just like many other people I know. What makes you think you'll die alone?
/r/ExRedPill16/10/22 02:32 PM
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Which studies exactly show that? And how do they measure happiness? And what is actually causing this shift in happiness?
/r/ExRedPill14/10/22 01:22 PM
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Keep meeting more people, go to more events and places, use dating apps. Same as everyone else really.
/r/ExRedPill13/10/22 07:53 AM
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It really sounds to me like you might be interpreting something but not actually analysing it for reality. You're guaranteeing that this lady would have been nicer to your mom, but that didn't actually happen, so you can't actually guarantee that. Maybe she was just stressed out with her job and would have said the exact same to your mom. I can be sure that it's nothing to do with gender, or with you being "ugly", or anything like that. Sure, certain people will exhibit some biases, and may be n…
/r/ExRedPill12/10/22 04:47 PM
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This is a pointless discussion and again, stop telling me that me finding someone ugly defies "science". I don't need academic text to explain this. Different people find different people beautiful or ugly. That's that. I'm not disagreeing with "science" I'm disagreeing with you.
/r/ExRedPill12/10/22 01:06 PM
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"reacting emotionally to a logical discussion" sounds very RP my dude. There is no solid right or wrong answer here, you're basically talking about philosophical ideas and treating it like it's science, and you need to shake this idea that you are right and everyone else is wrong. That's not going to help you. The thing is that your entire argument is self contradicting and changing, so you can't tell me that you're arguing "logically" and that your wall of text is not emotional. Again, it actua…
/r/ExRedPill12/10/22 11:32 AM
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Oh of course. I'm actually non-monogamous myself, I just try to steer away from bringing it up here as it usually opens a whole can of worms haha.
/r/ExRedPill12/10/22 11:20 AM
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I might agree in this case that one is more good looking than the other, but that does not mean that they are universally good looking. I can tell you now that Ryan Reynolds is not my girlfriend's type, nor do I find Sora Amamiya all that special either. I don't think either of us would describe them as ugly, and we might prefer them over Rosie O'donnel and John Goodman, but not every guy wants "cute" and not every woman wants "hot". Some women would rather have a guy who's like a big teddy bear…
/r/ExRedPill10/10/22 04:39 PM
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Find me a male model who is "universally attractive" and I will find you some women who don't find him all that attractive. But you're right, physical attractiveness just isn't all that important in the grand scheme of things. So it's a moot point either way.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/22 12:18 PM
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There are certainly generalised ideas of "good looking" but they're certainly not universal. And there's also a wide difference between people who fit that general idea of good looking, and the men who women would consider dating.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/22 11:52 AM
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There are plenty of women out there who are perfectly capable of having men as friends and having a boyfriend at the same time. The fact that some people stop giving their friends the same attention when they get into a relationship is not exclusive to women, or even platonic friendships between men and women. Sometimes it just happens because someone gets quite infatuated with the new person in their life. And sometimes they see their friends of the opposite sex less to avoid making their new p…
/r/ExRedPill09/10/22 04:35 PM
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Because the RP community can't process the idea of having any connection with a woman that isn't entirely for their own personal benefit. Hell I feel like most can't even process having a connection with anyone that isn't purely for their own gain. It's the same reason they only talk about sex and getting laid rather than forming healthy and sustainable relationships; women are merely meat holes for men to fuck, and so the idea of just having a meaningful conversation with one seems alien to the…
/r/ExRedPill09/10/22 04:30 PM
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That's a whole wide open question and would depend on so many different factors. How did it happen? Why did it happen? What was happening at the time? What has happened since? Where is our relationship now? But in all honesty if a relationship has survived 20 years and could be torn apart by something that happened 20 years ago, it probably should have fallen apart long before that anyway. if someone is willing to throw away 20 years worth of trust and connection over a single event that happene…
/r/ExRedPill08/10/22 07:07 PM
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I feel like this idea probably resonates the most with people in school because it's often those douchebags who are getting the most attention from the girls. And in some aspects this continues into adulthood too. Go to a bar and it's the cocky over confident guy who's chatting up all the girls and is probably the centre of attention at the table. I think it happens for a few simple reasons: They're confident, and that's attractive. A guy who's sure of himself will typically do better than a guy…
/r/ExRedPill07/10/22 09:34 AM
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The problem is that you're looking for dating advice based on science and psychology, rather than learning how to date people by going out and doing it. You need to let go of this idea that it's some kind of psychological game that science can guide you through, and that you need to know all these statistics and numbers to be able to play the field and win. Dating isn't a sport. It isn't a competition. It's an interaction between two people who are interested in getting to know each other. Men a…
/r/ExRedPill06/10/22 05:21 PM
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But you don't need to assess someone with stats and probabilities when you can just have a conversation with them and get to know them on a personal level.
/r/ExRedPill06/10/22 03:45 PM
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Sure they do, but when you want to know about a single person, those stats and patterns and generalisations aren't just irrelevant, they're potentially damaging. "Women with a high body count are less likely to commit, therefore this one woman I've met is unlikely to commit" isn't a valid way to assess that one person. Instead you need to take into account the reasons behind all of it. Why does she have a high body count, what drove her to have so many partners, and why is she now choosing to co…
/r/ExRedPill06/10/22 03:44 PM
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Financial stuff: In all of the relationships I've ever had - which is a fair few - my financial situation has never had any relevance. I'm not rich, I get by. I had times when I had fairly good income, and now I don't make much at all while my girlfriend is very wealthy. But either way it has never been important to any of my partners, past or present. I think the only point where it might have been a problem would be if I had no money all the time and she had to keep paying for things, but I wa…
/r/ExRedPill06/10/22 10:11 AM
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Go ahead and show me some stats. But then also remember that when you date an individual person, you are not dating stats. You are dating one person who has their own life and their own story and their own ideas for what they want in a relationship. You can't judge a single person's ideas and intentions from "stats".
/r/ExRedPill06/10/22 09:11 AM
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OK well maybe next time specify that instead of just using "BPD". Still, a bad experience with one woman doesn't turn "good normal men" into redpillers. Because good normal men don't make assessments of all other women from their experience with one woman. If you want to turn your life away from red pill ideas, then you first have to recognise that there is some responsibility of your own in how you see the world and your attitude towards others.
/r/ExRedPill06/10/22 09:09 AM
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I can see you're upset, and I'm sorry you've been through an abusive relationship, but your approach to this is unbalanced and short sighted. Can we not instead say that men who choose to date women who have BPD - a condition they have no decision in having and cannot be blamed for having - should acknowledge their partner's condition and account for it within the relationship, rather than blaming women as a whole for how they were treated by someone with a literal disability? Women with BPD are…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 02:39 PM
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As is the case with virtually all RP advice; no there's basically no truth to it and I doubt there's much good science to back it up either. Everyone is different, and everyone wants different things at different times in their lives. I've heard of women who have been in one committed relationship their whole lives eventually wanting to have sex with other men because it's an experience they've never had. I know a lot of women who slept around while they were younger then settled down later. I k…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 02:26 PM
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I get enough I guess.
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 02:19 PM
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I'm non-monogamous, and I'm in a relationship with a woman who is also non-monogamous, so I can add my two cents here. We both embrace non-monogamy because we accept that we both find other people attractive, and we may sometimes have opportunities to see other people and don't want to deny each other of that. It also means that we are not entirely dependent on each other, as we can also rely on other people in other ways; neither of us has to be the other's "everything". For us, it works amazin…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 01:26 PM
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Again, I'm not assuming that they are, I'm assuming that you don't recognise feminists (based on what you've said about feminism thus far) and so I wouldn't rate your assessment of whether someone is or is not a feminist. But if the only women you know are your mother and her sister, that could be true I guess. Don't you have any friends who are women? Do all of them laugh at feminists too? I'm not sure how you read that article and worked out that 1 in 4 women vs 1 in 9 men is "not much differe…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 01:09 PM
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But it is being called out. it's just not as high up on the list of things that people are talking about when they talk about feminist issues. Just because you haven't seen a feminist calling out FDS doesn't mean it's not happening. Yes, I've no doubt FDS gets a free ride calling itself a feminist forum. But so do TERFs. They go on about "protecting women" and call themselves feminists when their whole movement exists to erase trans women, restrict their ability to self identify and ban them fro…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 12:12 PM
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I'm not assuming things about the women in your life, I'm assessing your understanding of feminism and seeing that you might be misunderstanding what feminism actually is and thus thinking women in your life are not feminists when it's likely that they are, even if they're not shouting about it. Yes, patriarchy does not hold as much of a position in our countries as it does elsewhere, Iran being a good example of that and India too. But patriarchy does exist in our worlds, and simply listening t…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 11:21 AM
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Firstly, for what it's worth, the fact that I discuss this regularly with friends and the fact that all of my friends are feminists doesn't meant that is our entire lives. For what it's worth I'm also a musician and I run my own business and I have a very active social life. But that's besides the point. I'm here because I want to be able to support men who have been harmed by the red pill ideology and who want to get that support, and so far my involvement here has been effective and beneficial…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 10:42 AM
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I'm sorry but if you're claiming there are no current efforts to curtail women's reproductive rights, and no efforts to limit the rights of trans people, or pretending that feminists are doing nothing about the situation in Iran; if you actually want to stretch to that level of ignorance I don't consider myself a loser here. I consider myself saving the effort to argue with someone so incredibly blinkered that anything I could tell you would g completely ignored. You don't even know what feminis…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 09:44 AM
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The insane levels of ignorance in that comment are telling me there's no point having this discussion with you. Sorry. Try speaking to some actual women some time soon and actually listen to them.
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 09:12 AM
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But again, the problem is that you're treating people "equally" in unequal conditions. Our society does not treat men and women equally, men and women do not have equal experiences, and to expect both to behave to the same degree is not treating people equally. It's ignoring the plight of one side. If a child is bullied for months at school, and then lashes out and hits their bully back, are you going to punish the child and the bully equally? Would that be fair? It's not about being more accept…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 09:08 AM
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I don't know why FDS is allowed. I don't think it should be. But again, what does that have to do with feminism? FDS is miles away from feminist. It is not the responsibility of feminists to get FDS shut down any more than it is anyone else's responsibility. FDS is not "extremist feminism". It's not feminism at all. It's right-wing conservative propaganda pushing ideas that do not at all align with feminism. And indeed it aligns far more with RP than it does with any feminist ideas that I have e…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 08:52 AM
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I've heard it described as "calling in" rather than "calling out". That you take these toxic ideas and gently question them and unpack them. When you do that, the idea often starts to unravel and fall apart. But when you try to attack the idea, it will get defensive and stronger. Still, it's important to remember that those who face discrimination, those in marginalised groups and who are facing oppression cannot be expected to constantly respond with politeness and kindness. It's unfair to see …
/r/ExRedPill04/10/22 10:05 AM
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If you have faced sexual assault, verbal abuse, discrimination and violence from women on a near daily basis, then go ahead and say women are trash. Nobody is stopping you from saying that. If you can honestly say that women mistreat you regularly because of your gender, and asset an oppressive discrimination over you, then go ahead and vent. If you think there are so many stories in RP about women doing so much harm, yet can't see the every day sexism that women face, AND then admit that you ar…
/r/ExRedPill04/10/22 10:00 AM
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Right, but RP hates men too, let's not forget that. They may claim to be feminists, but nobody I know who describes themselves as feminist would accept them as feminists. And, again, what do you want feminists to do about FDS? I have no more power to shut down a subreddit than anyone else. The reason FDS still exists has nothing to do with feminists. Let's not forget that those fighting for women's rights have A LOT of things to be dealing with. I'd say the situation in Iran, the war on women's …
/r/ExRedPill04/10/22 08:35 AM
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Yes, absolutely. I never said anything of the contrary. But my point was that feminists can only police and regulate the discourse as well as you or I can regulate RP. That said, when I hear a woman saying "All men are trash" I don't challenger her on it, but instead try to find out why she's saying that. And every time it's been a conversation about some shitty thing some man has done (again). Note that I'm still able to have that conversation, because the woman doesn't actually hate all men an…
/r/ExRedPill03/10/22 05:03 PM
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Yes we do, but you'll see that RP still exists elsewhere. I wouldn't consider FDS to be feminism at all. I doubt any other feminists would either. I'd consider it to be another branch of RP, spreading the same hateful and ignorant content about dating and relationships. I am not saying that feminists should not call out and tackle problematic voices within feminist discourse, in fact the whole point of feminism is to discuss and correct the ideas that are causing problems (eg tackling TERFs, mak…
/r/ExRedPill03/10/22 04:59 PM
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But that's always a miscalculation. To say black people commit the most crimes is an unfair measure, since crime is measured by how many people are arrested and charged. If the police have any bias (which they clearly do) then it's unfair to assume that black people are more likely to be criminals. Also measuring crime rates often ignores the root causes of crime, and the wider complexity of it. But that said, if I knew someone who was white, but who faced discrimination, assault, and insults on…
/r/ExRedPill03/10/22 04:55 PM
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Saying that feminists should "regulate and police" the vocal extremist side is a bit like saying men should "regulate and police" red pill speakers. I - as a man who is a feminist - can do as much to stop someone tweeting some shitty red pill commentary as I can to stop someone tweeting "men are trash". It's important to remember that feminism is not some exclusive club where everyone agrees with each other and has some particular agenda together. Feminism is simply an idea; an extremely broad i…
/r/ExRedPill03/10/22 11:47 AM
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TL;DR
/r/ExRedPill03/10/22 09:48 AM
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Nobody here is going to call you a blue pill simp; this is not the place for that kind of attitude and it wouldn't be tolerated. The whole point of this group is to help people overcome red pill ideas. Thank you so much for sharing your story, I am sorry that having already gone through the trauma of sexual abuse, you were then abused further by the very people who consistently complain about the lack of support for male survivors. You're absolutely right, many in the red pill communities (and g…
/r/ExRedPill02/10/22 06:25 PM
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Do you have a TL:DR for the 40 minute video?
/r/ExRedPill30/09/22 08:46 AM
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I'm not laughing at Jordan Peterson being alone, I'm laughing at Jordan Peterson reaping what he's sewn. His own toxic attitude and approach to life has consequences and now he's having to face them. The man put himself in hospital from eating an all meat diet. Yes, men should show emotion, but men - and everyone - have to learn that there are consequences to your action. If you're going to make your life about demonising women, exploiting vulnerable young men and working to push back against pr…
/r/ExRedPill30/09/22 08:15 AM
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If you're doing most of the work then you're talking to the wrong women. I've never felt that in dating. Sure, I've messaged women who didn't seem to make the effort in the conversation. Then I just unmatch with them and go and find someone who actually wants to have a conversation and is interested. You might still be expected to make the first move, I think that's mostly down to dated ideas that have made women feel like making the first move makes them look desperate. But once that conversati…
/r/ExRedPill29/09/22 02:28 PM
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When you get yourself into more left wing and feminist spaces, you find a lot more people talking about exactly that. More often than not the message is more about women than men but the same meaning applies; it's fine to want to date or to want to be single. It's fine to not start a family by a certain date, it's fine to live your life the way you want to live it, even if it contradicts what a lot of society still preaches. It's fine to be single and feel fulfilled, and we absolutely should be …
/r/ExRedPill28/09/22 08:51 AM
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This sounds like it's essentially narcissism, but on an extreme level. Red Pill preachers are very much narcissists; they only value other people as much as those people influence their own personal value of themselves. They don't care for actual empathetic relationships and instead want to get whatever they want for themselves, and don't care about the other people involved. The difference between them and you though, is that you recognise you have a problem and you want to do something about i…
/r/ExRedPill27/09/22 09:29 AM
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Sure, validation can be good for us as social creatures. But you need those social connections to get that validation. And you won't get those social connections if you are centred around validation. So if you're starting from the bottom, you have to find confidence in yourself before you can get that validation from others. You have to remember that actually, there isn't proof that they're unattractive. Some dumb YouTube video telling you that women only want men over 6ft is not proof, nor is r…
/r/ExRedPill27/09/22 09:16 AM
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As I often say, if you're looking for some kind of logic or common sense or even self reflection in RP content, you're wasting your time. It's not supposed to make sense, nor does it ever think about anyone other than the man himself. It is narcissism to the highest degree with zero consideration about consequences or outcomes.
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 03:24 PM
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No you don't, that's an idea you need to shake. You don't need validation from anyone to find confidence in yourself. And you probably won't get that validation until you actually become someone that people want to be around.
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 03:15 PM
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I'd say most men don't actually prefer younger women. I think we're all trained to see beauty in youth; younger women look more attractive because we're conditioned to see them as so, even though of course older women can still be very attractive. But most of us would prefer someone closer to our own age - either a little younger or a little older - for a list of reasons. Women closer to my age will be in a similar stage in their life and so they'll most likely be looking for something similar. …
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 07:57 AM
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But you're only looking for one woman. And you'd be surprised how many there are out there who are happy to date a shorter guy. But they won't want to date a shorter guy who's constantly pissed off about the fact that he's short. The sooner you come to terms with who you are and embrace it with positivity, the sooner you'll find other people enjoy your company too. But if you stubbornly sit there complaining that you got a bad deal, it's only going to stay like that.
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 07:48 AM
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The alternative is realising that being 5'4 doesn't actually make you any less valid as a man, and that your height is far less relevant than you're allowing it to be. It only becomes a problem because you're focusing on it and allowing it to define you and what confidence you're allowed to have. You don't need protecting from anything. When people tell you to be confident, that's not very well made advice, but it's the general point. Come to terms with who you are and what values you have as a …
/r/ExRedPill25/09/22 09:00 PM
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Err actually if you watched the Matrix you'll know that the war was between men and machines - ie women.
/r/ExRedPill25/09/22 04:34 PM
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It amazes me how much RP use Fight Club as some kind of reference for how men should be, like Tyler Durden isn't the manifestation of the Narrator's own toxic ideas of rebellion against norms and desire for masculinity, presented through violence, meaningless sex, cultist organisation, self destruction and literal terrorism. Like guys watch it and go "oh yea he's a cool idea of what a man should be" MY BROTHER DID YOU WATCH THE SAME FUCKING FILM?
/r/ExRedPill25/09/22 02:02 PM
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I'm sure there are some instances of what you call hypergamy, which I simply call two people getting married with different wages. Just because many women might marry a man who earns more than her does not prove that she married him because he earns more. And again if you take typical earning differences into account, it isn't surprising at all that women end up marrying men who earn more than them. That's to be expected and reflects more on the state of earnings than on the behaviour of women. …
/r/ExRedPill23/09/22 01:42 PM
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Oh, that hypergamy study undertaken by the Institute for Family Studies? A conservative "think tank" with ties to right wing billionaires the Koch brothers? That "unbiased" study? I'm sure those survey replies weren't cherry picked at all. We're not talking about "issues" at a "social level", we're talking about a made up idea that says that women will leave a man for a richer, more attractive, taller man. A theory which has been debunked repeatedly through all of those studies I liked to, and t…
/r/ExRedPill23/09/22 12:18 PM
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So, hypergamy doesn't exist, and here's several sources that show that. The trend of husbands making more than wives is really more a factor of inequality in earnings between men and women (typically due to inequalities in parental duties and paid parental leave). You can't say I don't know women because I have no data, then make generalisations about "most likely" scenarios whilst also having no data. I'm talking from my own extensive experience of dating and relationships, I'm talking about th…
/r/ExRedPill23/09/22 08:12 AM
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If you're hoping that sitting around in public looking approachable is going to help you make friends, or find a partner, you're going to be severely disappointed. Putting on some earrings and tying your hair up isn't going to magically make a social life appear. It's not about how you look, it's about what you do. You don't need to make yourself approachable, you need to put yourself into places where you might be approached for the right reasons, and where you can approach others too. Of cours…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/22 08:31 AM
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The problem here is that it's you posting here and not him. When he is ready to change his perspective and learn new ways of thinking, this is the exact group he needs and there are lots of sources online to help him learn how this content is manipulative and toxic. But if he's not seeing a problem, and he doesn't think he needs to change, then neither we nor you will be able to change him. He's doing things that you find unattractive, he's putting up barriers, he's creating arguments where they…
/r/ExRedPill20/09/22 03:37 PM
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I don't do love languages - that's some pseudo-psychology on par with Myers Briggs and astrology. I'll also say that you should never listen to anyone who says "women are incapable of..." Personally I don't like the idea of "loyalty" in relationships; I think the term is inaccurate in describing how healthy relationships function. To me, the term "loyalty" implies service, submission, sacrifice and surrender. Being loyal to someone is accepting rules and regulations defined by someone else, it's…
/r/ExRedPill18/09/22 04:33 PM
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Never heard of it. Just looked it up and I still don't really understand what it is or what it has to do with RP.
/r/ExRedPill16/09/22 02:59 PM
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Simple answer: just forget this whole idea of "the wall". It's nonsense. It's not even worth trying to process some logic out of any RP content because it's all full of hypocrisy, misinformation and ignorance. You've heard almost nothing about how RP applies to LGBT because these people are entirely ignorant of the spectrums of sexuality and gender, apart from when it gives them an opportunity to belittle other people or blame someone else for their problems. In reality, you've heard nothing abo…
/r/ExRedPill16/09/22 09:07 AM
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What actual advice does redpill give any guys?
/r/ExRedPill16/09/22 09:03 AM
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Thanks for sharing your story. I think it really highlights this pressure men feel to have sex and how unhealthy it is. This idea that a man's value is tied to his sexual experience, to his "body count", to how good he is at sex and attracting women; it's such a ridiculous idea. For a start, many men out there do not lose their virginity in their teens. Plenty of guys don't get there until much later on for all sorts of reasons. I'm not sure how sturdy the stats are about "most" losing it around…
/r/ExRedPill15/09/22 09:32 AM
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Do keep us updated my friend, we're all here to support each other.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 12:12 PM
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You are struggling with depression and you need to deal with that. Your depression is destroying any confidence you have in yourself and leaving you in a state of constant negative thoughts. I can guarantee you that nobody in Walmart even paid you any attention. I mean, it's Walmart. Nobody cares about your acne scars and freckles. Whenever my freckles come through I just get comments about how cute they are. But you're completely stuck on this idea that you're ugly, this very severe case of bod…
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 09:20 AM
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Firstly, to say nobody has ever shown interest is short sighted. Maybe someone was interested but didn't know how to approach. Maybe someone was trying to show interest and you didn't notice. Maybe your self esteem is so low that you refused to believe it (very likely based on your post history). Secondly, everything you're talking about here is about your physical appearance, and the same can be said for most of your previous posts. You're hung up on the size of your dick and your weight and we…
/r/ExRedPill13/09/22 04:58 PM
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Women do not become unattractive after 25. That's never been the case. There's absolutely no rush to find a man. You go dating when you feel like dating. And many guys do have pure intentions when they date. Sure, a lot of men are just in it for themselves, but any are actually in the right place to be a good partner to you. Even if, by some nonsense law, women did become unattractive after 25 - which they don't - you've got a whole 6 years before then. And as someone starting university next mo…
/r/ExRedPill10/09/22 03:37 PM
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Exactly. And it's also worth remembering, as I say all the time, all women want different things. The fact that someone is a millionaire isn't a turn on to every woman out there. What defines "good looking" is entirely subjective. The only thing I feel confident saying is fairly universal amongst women, is that most of them find these red pill guys with their arrogance and attitude really, really unattractive. No woman wants to date a 38 year old millionaire narcissist who treats her like shit a…
/r/ExRedPill10/09/22 11:15 AM
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Well sure, but if you're willing to date guys in their 30s then you're not strictly only dating older men. And it' makes sense that someone almost 40 wouldn't want to date someone in their early 20s, that's quite an age gap. But I'm guessing when you were in your 20s you weren't looking at the same age range?
/r/ExRedPill09/09/22 07:52 PM
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Yea that makes sense. Definitely puts a dint in this idea that women reject younger men in favour of older guys though.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/22 07:41 PM
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I think it would help to include your own age here. I think a lot of those suggesting that men in their 30s have a wider pool to choose from are suggesting that 21 year old women would rather date a guy in his 30s than another 21 year old.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/22 07:35 PM
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Utter, utter nonsense. There is zero value in waiting at all unless you genuinely don't want a relationship. The idea that women want to date older men is nonsense. Sure, some do, but not all of them, and when they're in their late teens/early twenties they're definitely not looking to date men in their 30s. When I was 18-19 I dated a woman who was 25-26. She wasn't turned off by the fact that I was so young and barely had myself figured out. We were together for a year and things did eventually…
/r/ExRedPill09/09/22 07:32 PM
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This is something I've said time and time again, but it really all does come down to empathy. Red pill advice is entirely void of empathy, it objectifies women and ignores that they are human beings with their own emotions. Or worse, it acknowledges those emotions and shows you how to manipulate them to get what you want, but that is far from empathetic. The more I pay attention to other people, the more i start to feel like practising empathy isn't actually as common as I would have hoped. Ther…
/r/ExRedPill09/09/22 08:30 AM
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You don't need a role model, and you don't need a relationship. You need therapy. Therapy will help you organise your thoughts and recognise the things that are causing you pain, and help you figure out how to address them. It sounds like you have faced some difficulties in your life that few have to deal with, so it would be understandable that you're feeling lost and in need of guidance. No YouTuber is going to do that for you. You need to sit with someone and process your problems in person. …
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 08:39 AM
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There is nothing "weak and feminine" about feminism, nor is there anything wrong with being weak and feminine. There is strength in empathising with others and recognising their struggles, and there is strength in doing your part to support those who may need it. There is nothing buff and strong about blaming society and women for the problems a man might have in his life. There is nothing buff and strong about laughing at someone because you haven't had a girlfriend. Women don't want to be arou…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 02:41 PM
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OK....define "good"? Of course all women (who are attracted to men) want "good" men. We all want "good" people in our lives. But my definition of "good" and your definition of "good", and your friend's definition of "good" will all be different. Your friend might not find me attractive at all, but my girlfriend absolutely loves me to pieces. The same goes for "strong minded" or "strong willed". That's such a vague term that's so open to interpretation. You can go ahead and provide your definitio…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 07:56 AM
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Either way, it's just another case of fake statistics and using a term like "80%" to make it sound legitimate. There's nothing in it that makes sense.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 07:16 AM
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You don't even need to overthink it that much. It's mathematically impossible for 80% of men to be below average in anything. And then you need to question what it is they're supposed to be "below average" in. There is no single measurement that defines whether a man is going to get a relationship or not, because there is no universal measurement of what women find attractive. I might have a "below average" income or I might be "below average" height, but that doesn't matter if I'm "above averag…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/22 10:46 AM
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I'm gonna meet up with my own fwb later too, how do you feel about that?
/r/ExRedPill06/09/22 07:49 AM
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I say "partner" because girlfriend feels a bit immature for a relationship that's been going for almost 4 years. My "ancestors" didn't live in 2022, and I didn't live in the 1920s. So what they did and what I do is entirely irrelevant quite frankly. "Women back then" were literally incapable of making the same income as a man, because we didn't have equal pay laws and if you go back further women couldn't even be employed in many jobs. But we don't live in that society any more and women are per…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/22 07:48 AM
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Not lack of sex as much as lack of respect in talking about how in love she was with him, and lack of compatibility in not wanting to make the same progress at the same rate.
/r/ExRedPill06/09/22 07:12 AM
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As someone who makes very little money compared to my partner, I can tell you, categorically, that is not true.
/r/ExRedPill06/09/22 07:11 AM
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Study: We have surveyed thousands of people to further understand the distributions of sexual behaviours across genders and here are some of the things we have found out Man on the internet who has done no such research at all: Well actually I have a hunch about something so you're wrong.
/r/ExRedPill05/09/22 08:09 PM
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No you're not overthinking. You're thinking the normal amount, which is enough to realise that these guys are absolutely full of shit.
/r/ExRedPill04/09/22 02:30 PM
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Then you don't know women. Firstly, "more attractive" is entirely subjective. Every woman wants something different. Secondly, being taller and richer really aren't the top priorities for the vast majority of women. Most women want someone who's honest, good to them, good company to be around, trustworthy, caring...really all the things that you would most likely want in a partner yourself. Everyone has different priorities and desires. And I now this from experience. I'm a skinny, average looki…
/r/ExRedPill02/09/22 08:08 PM
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Maybe a misinterpretation/different interpretation here. To me a "red flag" doesn't mean something bad as such, it just means "don't proceed". Red flag/red light, whatever. I'm not saying that someone who doesn't want to have sex before a certain point is a bad person or whatever, just not suitable for me and not someone I'd want to continue dating. Red flag, stop, turn around and head the other way. That's all.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/22 04:32 PM
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That feels like you're very much cherry picking things to misinterpret my entire comment. As I said very clearly; it's about balance. Nobody wants to be in a relationship purely to look after the other, and frankly nobody should. But both should be able to support each other when they need it. To me "looking after" someone is like parenting them. I might want my girlfriend to "look after" me when I'm ill, or when I'm going through a very difficult time, or even when I'm swamped with too much wor…
/r/ExRedPill02/09/22 08:51 AM
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I'm saying it's a red flag in terms of how compatible we will be. I'm not going to be compatible with someone who doesn't want to have sex even after a few weeks of dating. And I'm perfectly capable of valuing directness and honesty, as a direct and honest person myself. If anything I'd appreciate someone telling me when they do or don't want to have sex so I can know early on whether we'll be compatible or not.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/22 08:43 AM
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Like I said, it's a red flag for me. I don't need her to give a fuck. I decide what I want in a relationship, and I decide whether this person I've been dating for two weeks is suitable for me. Everyone is free to do things at whatever pace they want. I absolutely value honesty and directness, but I also value being with someone who enjoys and desires sex as much as I do, and if after 2 weeks of dating we're not doing the dirty, I can probably say this isn't going to work out. Similarly, she may…
/r/ExRedPill02/09/22 08:42 AM
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Because not all women want a taller, "more attractive" rich man. To some women, you are far more attractive than whoever this man might be. That's the important thing to learn here.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/22 08:39 AM
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Practice makes perfect. Honestly that's all there is to things like this. Keep trying, listen to others and how they tell their stories, but eventually it just comes naturally. You're also probably overthinking it; you're probably better than you think you are, but it would be natural to come out of your red pill shell feeling self conscious and worried that you're embarrassing yourself. There's a fair to good chance you're doing way better than you think. Just keep going!
/r/ExRedPill01/09/22 07:20 PM
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This is complicated, there's no hard and fast rule, and the thing about red flags is you get to set your own. For me, a partner wanting to meet up with an ex is not a red flag. They may have been together for a long time and invested a lot into each other's lives and so still have some connection there. It's perfectly possible to end a relationship and stay friends - I'm still friends with many of my exes. Her talking about him regularly and talking about how in love they were? That's a red flag…
/r/ExRedPill01/09/22 04:06 PM
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I don't think you need to take back the meaning of RP at all. I think you need to just do away with it entirely, turn off the computer, go outside and get some friends. Honestly you're just spouting vapid rhetoric and admitting that you're going to do nothing anyway. What's the point in being aware and learning about all this if you're just going to carry on being Mr Anderson? Just so you know, I have never been redpilled, I am not here as someone trying to fix his life. I'm here to understand h…
/r/ExRedPill30/08/22 08:48 AM
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Well, let's take this itself for example, many think that getting into a relationship, having kids, getting a high paying job is going to magically make them happy. But I honestly don't think that may people actually think like that. Not a single person I know goes to their job because they think it will make them happy. They go to their job because if they don't they'll lose their home. They get into a relationship because they meet someone and have a bond with them. They have kids because they…
/r/ExRedPill29/08/22 07:36 PM
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But this is exactly what I mean. What is "the system"? And what is "outside"? It's undefined, vague and entirely open to interpretation. And while it may have come from a whole wide range of philosophies, it's ultimately consumer content written and directed by two women who wanted to create some entertainment (and money). It is hyperbole of an undefined idea based on thoughts of consciousness and self actualisation. That is why I say it's similar to astrology or even religious teachings. In all…
/r/ExRedPill29/08/22 02:47 PM
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Hmm, some good points but a lot of flowery rhetoric and conspiracy in there too. Yes, take control of your life and work to improve yourself, but the whole "mainstream media is lying to you and big tech is trying to control your life" is a bit tinfoil hat. Sure, too much social media can have a negative impact, yes it's designed to be addictive and indeed there have been instances of propaganda and influence. But for the most part they're just trying to sell advertising space for adverts that yo…
/r/ExRedPill29/08/22 01:16 PM
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Very well put. This whole idea of a "high value man" is warped and dangerous. What defines someone as "high value" is entirely subjective and varies greatly from person to person. Your typical redpill idea of a "high value man" might have money and ... well that's usually it just money, but he'd probably throw his own grandma under a bus for some more. They're typically narcissists who will use anyone and everyone to get their own way, putting themselves above everyone as if the whole thing is s…
/r/ExRedPill29/08/22 09:58 AM
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Well done for making this and starting to add to the rebuttal content. It's pretty hilarious watching that guy try to process this idea of a woman being tied. Just shows how little these guys have figured out, there he is trying to school some guy who's been married for 20 years on how marriage works. One thing I would be careful of; the title of your video has left some very questionable content in the sidebar of recommended videos. Lots of red pill shit showing up there. I'm not sure how you'd…
/r/ExRedPill29/08/22 09:37 AM
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Thanks for sharing your story, and I'm glad you're making progress and recognising the places that need work. You're right, it sounds like a lot of what you're dealing with is the insecurity. it is - as it always is - nothing to do with not being enough of a "man" or being an "alpha" or whatever. We have to remember that relationships are not hierarchical, they are about compatibility. Your partner is with you and is choosing to be with you. You don't need to be any more than you are. You are al…
/r/ExRedPill28/08/22 04:38 PM
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They don't. If you don't want a relationship right now, you don't have to have one. If you want to have casual, meaningless sex then you do that. All that matters is that you're doing it in a healthy way, that you're respectful of all of your partners, and that you understand why you're doing it. If you're doing it because you don't think you're worthy of a long term relationship, that's not healthy. If you're doing it because right now in your life you don't have the capacity for a long term re…
/r/ExRedPill28/08/22 08:32 AM
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I think the problem here is that it's pushing a lot of very dated ideas about what a man should be and should do and what a woman should be and should do, and beliefs of how women treat men. It's overly generalised, and forces men, including yourself, to hold yourself to unrealistic standards. It's ideas of dating and relationships based purely on what others have told you, and not on actual dating experience. The idea that men have to be "manly" is nonsense. Men can be soft. Men can be emotiona…
/r/ExRedPill28/08/22 08:27 AM
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I never actually was red pilled, but I've used - and found success with - OKCupid and Tinder, both while I was single and as someone in a nonmonogamous relationship.
/r/ExRedPill27/08/22 10:13 AM
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Literally nothing that man could reveal is worth of knowing.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/22 04:07 PM
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Because these types push this idea of competitiveness and having to be the top of everything, so of course that means having to have the last word all the time and having to be the one with all the answers. The smartest people you'll ever meet are those who shut up and listen, and who know when they don't know.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/22 04:00 PM
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Can we have a ban on Andrew Tate videos on this sub? His bullshit is not good for anyone on here and we don't need to be seeing it.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/22 02:39 PM
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Why does anyone need to see this? How about we just stop giving him publicity and let him fade into obscurity where he belongs? Unless it's evidence of wrong doing ie covert filming.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/22 02:39 PM
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Are you trying to suggest I'm a bot? With 45k karma?
/r/ExRedPill24/08/22 08:12 AM
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Simple answer: misogyny. It's been a common trope amongst a lot of right-wing press in the UK over the years too. Single mothers get blamed for everything. They would run this idea that women would intentionally get pregnant so that they could claim child support benefits so they wouldn't have to work. Or they were irresponsible for having sex, or they were a terrible girlfriend/wife and that's why her husband left. It's just this same typical attitude that puts all the responsibility on women. …
/r/ExRedPill24/08/22 08:10 AM
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Wonderful. May he be the first of many other pieces of shit like him.
/r/ExRedPill23/08/22 08:38 AM
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Not particularly. I'm noticably underweight, pretty average looking, zero fashion sense, by no means a model. I'm just able to hold a conversation I guess? And I dont start with "Hi how are you?" and I reckon that puts me above like 75-90% of the other guys on dating apps. Most matches I've got have told me they swiped on me because I sounded interesting or because I look fun. It's nothing to do with my physical appearance but the energy and personality that I give off. I probably get a <5% matc…
/r/ExRedPill21/08/22 08:52 PM
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Why pass on dating apps? That's how I've met basically every woman I've dated or been in a relationship with for probably the last 10 years bar one.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/22 08:36 PM
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wtf are you talking about with Cuba? Unless you're living in some backwater rural nowhere there are plenty of women around you who could be compatible partners, you just need to look in the right places. If you want to find women you're compatible with, go do things where you meet people with similar interests. Put in a bit of effort and get on the dating apps. Increase the number of people you meet in your life and you'll find someone. To be honest I don't even support this idea that "most wome…
/r/ExRedPill21/08/22 02:17 PM
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It's not unfortunate to not be what "most women" want, since none of us are trying to date "most women". Most of us are just looking to date one. It's absolutely fine to not fit the description of what "most women" want.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/22 11:06 AM
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No you don't at all. Being emotionally intelligent, allowing yourself to be open and vulnerable, being caring and affectionate, a good listener and able to communicate are all very attractive traits to the right women. In fact relationships and sex don't have to be about submission and dominance at all. Relationships can be about balance, equality, fairness and mutual support and happiness. Good relationships are simply down to whether or not you can enjoy each other's company and whether you bo…
/r/ExRedPill21/08/22 11:04 AM
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But it could be fixed very quickly really. If they have the power to identify the music in the background of a video (not even a backing track just something playing in the same room or something) then they have the power to identify these shitbags and block them from appearing.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/22 10:53 AM
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Too little too late. Now TikTok, YouTube, and any platform that can host a podcast featuring him need to follow suit. Any service that gives him a platform is an accomplice to whatever results from his hate speech.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/22 08:39 PM
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"Actually, men and women are very different. Men are logical and strong and are not controlled by their emotions while women are driven by emotions and money. Allow me to prove that with 275 nonsense YouTube videos and a $75 dating course that I started making because a girl rejected me in highschool 17 years ago and I still haven't gotten over it..." P.S. It would be good to add "(whatever it means to each person)" next to all of those points about what men and women are attracted to because al…
/r/ExRedPill20/08/22 02:36 PM
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100%. That applies to all of the above really. You shouldn't let getting a date/relationship be the motivation behind any adjustments or changes you make to yourself. There's nothing wrong with actively seeking dates, I mean I don't know how you would get one otherwise. But when that starts to turn into "if I am more like this then I will get more dates" then it becomes unhealthy.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/22 09:04 AM
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As stated earlier; feminism is not at all about highlighting gender imbalance, identifying causes and addressing those imbalances. If indeed that study is correct and that women are actually more likely to commit IPV, then that's an important study that needs further research. And such research would entirely align with feminism. Nothing about highlighting misunderstandings or learning more about IPV or gender based violence is anti-feminism. However, let's also not overlook the fact - as stated…
/r/ExRedPill19/08/22 10:51 PM
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It doesn't do that at all. It recongises that women are far more likely to be victims of domsetic violence, whilst also recognising that men who are victims of domestic violence are often overlooked, and that these two things are actually symptoms of the same problem: toxic masculinity and patriarchal ideologies. The same can be applied to rape and sexual assault, child custody, healthcare, and a million other elements of our lives. I've never once met a feminist who is calling for an end to jai…
/r/ExRedPill19/08/22 03:43 PM
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Feminism is absolutely about equality. it's about addressing the inequality that exists between genders. it's not about "getting even" but about addressing the oppression that women, men, and others experience at the hands of a patriarchal society. It's about recognising that there are situations and circumstances where gender puts people at an unfair advantage or disadvantage, and particularly recognising that this typically leans towards women and other genders being more disadvantaged than me…
/r/ExRedPill19/08/22 03:10 PM
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That's not what feminism is. To take an egalitarian approach is to ignore the inequalities that exist extensively between genders - intersectional feminism takes that further and acknowledges how forms of discrimination cross over in many areas of life. Feminism is beneficial for all once you actually understand it. Egalitarianism isn't enough. We need to recognise the inequalities that exist in society and right those wrongs.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/22 09:21 AM
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All women are like what? Nobody will believe she said what things?
/r/ExRedPill18/08/22 05:03 PM
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Absolutely. I said the same in my first comment in here somewhere. Do it for yourself. Get a hobby because doing interesting things is, well, interesting. Make some effort in your appearance because it makes you feel good. This is what people are talking about when they say "You need to work on yourself".
/r/ExRedPill18/08/22 05:01 PM
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It's true, a lot of people just don't have hobbies and it's totally understandable that a lot of people don't have time or energy for it. But that's also one of the reasons why the bar is low. If you can find some time for that weekend hobby, or just have...an interest...in something...then you're already ahead of those guys who just go to work, go to the gym, watch Netflix and go out to drink on the weekend.
/r/ExRedPill18/08/22 01:22 PM
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The important thing to always remember is that "ugly" and "boring" - or indeed "beautiful" and "interestin" - are entirely subjective. What one woman things is ugly and boring, another will find beautiful and fascinating. Yes, you should absolutely make an effort to look after yourself and to do interesting things, but do it for yourself, because you cannot mould yourself to be the right man for every woman. Make some effort in your appearance so that you feel good about yourself. Do interesting…
/r/ExRedPill18/08/22 01:20 PM
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How so?
/r/ExRedPill18/08/22 01:10 PM
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The problem is that every man and every woman is different. What works for one woman will be terrible advice for another. The best advice - maybe the only advice - anyone can give, at least when it comes to dating someone other than themselves or someone specific, is always far more general and broadbrush. I can tell you exactly how I got dates with my girlfriend, but it would be a totally different story with any of my ex girlfriends. I think a lot of people are looking for specific "techniques…
/r/ExRedPill14/08/22 08:26 PM
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Attractive to the point that she would consider leaving her partner for them. Obviously. Jeez. Try some abstraction once in your life.
/r/ExRedPill14/08/22 09:01 AM
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You're nitpicking. My point is that she's not going to suddenly stop being with one person to be with another simply because of some basic traits. She's not so simple that she can't make her own decisions on how to act. A man can do all he wants to "convince" a woman to do something, but ultimately she makes her own choices. We are all vulnerable to manipulation to some degree sure, but she is just as responsible for her own decisions as anyone else is.
/r/ExRedPill13/08/22 10:12 PM
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The problem is that red pill pushes this idea that men are competing for women. It's entirely dated and based on absolutely nothing. It's probably based in some pseudo biology ideas because we see competition amongst other animal species. We see many animals form packs that might have an alpha male who gets to mate with all the females, and all the other males compete to take his place. But humans are not like that. At all. We have our own unique social structures and we work in totally differen…
/r/ExRedPill13/08/22 10:00 AM
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Of course, there's nothing wrong with having a preference on who you date. I wouldn't want to date someone who goes for the whole typical fashionable Kardiashain look either because it's likely we'd have totally different personalities. Like I'm really anti-consumerist and I really don't aim for this typical "wealth = success" idea and all of the imagery that goes with it. I guess it's just about being able to recognise the blurriness of those boundaries. Not everyone fits into a neat pidgeon ho…
/r/ExRedPill12/08/22 06:21 PM
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It's also important to remember that this image that is painted of these women is often based on...very little. The men and women who make these videos and blogs all about what women are like are usually just making up some half hashed stereotype based on a few women they made absolutely no effort to get to know. Even those "instagram model types" are far more three-dimensional than some RP douchebag will tell you. Sure, there will be some women out there who only care about looking pretty and g…
/r/ExRedPill12/08/22 03:14 PM
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That was cathartic. I really liked that point you made about how the whole "hot girl summer/bad bitch" image is just a tiny percentage of reality. Like it's so easy to forget that this girl looking all hot on Instagram also does grocery shopping and laundry and sits around in her pajamas sometimes and probably spends most of her day just doing whatever boring job she has. It's got me thinking about how social media detatches us from the reality of other people's lives and only lets us see what t…
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 09:26 AM
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Literally the first comment was "gross but hey if you enjoy, whatever". And it was specifically that use of the word "gross" that I was challenging. You're not wrong at all in saying that some people like the feeling of shame, nor that some people have actual self esteem issues. You're also absolutely welcome to say "that idea makes me uncomfortable" or "I don't like the idea of that". But calling something gross is just unnecessary negativity in this case. Of course, there are plenty of so call…
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 08:59 PM
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Well she might not have had a good support network growing up and may be drawn to people who she thinks can support her, even if they don't. Attractiveness is definitely subjective. Yes, there are some stereotypes about what people find attractive, but it is not a hard and fast rule. As I said, most people have a broad definition of what they find attractive. And attraction is also down to far more than physical appearance. Personality and character play a huge role in how attractive someone is.…
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 06:58 PM
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But there you've missed the entire point of this. Kinks that do not harm other people should not be shamed. If your kink is based on racist, misogynistic, ableist or otherwise bigotted views, then that's a problem that needs addressing. A racist kink is very different to a cuckolding kink. I have in fact in other comments highlighted that the whole "bbc" element that sometimes comes into it is entirely problematic and not somethign I support at all. Cuckolding does not have to have anything to d…
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 06:35 PM
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ok there's a lot to digest there so let's get down to it. Firstly, I'm happy that you've had a date that's gone well. I really hope you enjoyed it! I also hope this will be the start of realising that in fact, you can get dates, you can find someone to have sex with. And if that's the case, I guess you're not that ugly after all right? But take your time, it may take a while to sink in. So my first impression from your description is that there could be some instability in there. Having come fro…
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 06:01 PM
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Not all kinks are piss and shit. Some kinks might be a couple consenting to the man watching the woman have sex with another man. Some people might just have bondage kinks or play with domination and submission. All of these types of kinks get shamed by one corner of society or another and there's simply no need for it. The result is that many people feel like they are somehow wrong, or broken, or sinful or shameful simply for their own sexual desires. It stops people from exploring their full s…
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 04:55 PM
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Oh don't worry, I'm far more invested in my kinky relationships than I am in the people who try to shame me for them. I'm just trying to understand why you think shaming people for how they have sex is a good thing to do?
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 04:11 PM
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One of the reasons I joined this sub is because I want to help men who have fallen into this trap. I am not ex-redpill myself, but I feel like someone with a lot of positive and healthy advice to offer. I have a positive mindset, a healthy lifestyle, good strong relationships and I do well in dating despite being entirely average looking, not very confident and far from earning six figures. I see so many of these boys and men getting into these ideas about what they are supposed to be and how th…
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 03:42 PM
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Top tip: Never take dating or relationship advice from anyone who uses the term "bitches" unironically.
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 03:08 PM
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If you're able to find a girl who wants to be pissed on, no I wouldn't label that gross. Even if I might consider it gross in my head, I think shaming two consenting people for doing what they enjoy without harming anyone is an unhealthy attitude towards sex and sexual pleasure. It's not my kink, I'm not interested in pissing on a girls face. But if two people want to do that they should go ahead and enjoy themselves.
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 09:05 AM
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Well, as I said she has had this relationship with this other man since long before we got together, and it never turned into a relationship with him because she doesn't feel that connection with him beyond being a freind who she sometimes (a few times a year) has sex with. Meanwhile, we have met, fallen in love, moved in together, and have long term plans to stay together. Ultimately I know how to pleasure her better than anyone, because we have been together for so long and spend a lot of time…
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 09:03 AM
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Why is it?
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 08:53 AM
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I'm not telling anyone to jump on board. I'm saying that - regardless of dictionary definitions - in the real world terms like "gross" and "weird" have negative conotations and can lead people to feel negatively about their own sexual preferences. Preferences which they of course did not choose and should not feel bad about. You can go along with "the majority of people", or you can recognise the impact of expressing such an attitude towards people and find a better way to talk about it. There a…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 04:59 PM
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I think you're missing that many kinks experiences like this do not exist in isolation and when they're done in a healthy way are coupled with after care and of course consent. Nobody is letting someone ejaculate in their wife because they feel a genuine genetic inferiority, nor is any wife going along with this because she wants a superior man. She won't even be trying to get pregant. It's simply about appealing to certain emotions that might give someone sexual arousal in those moments. It's r…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 04:44 PM
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The fact that you call something weird because you don't understand it is a testiment to your own attitude towards others. My actions harm nobody, and are nothing that I should feel shame for. I don't feel any personal judgement, nor do I care about what some strangers on the internet think of what I do. I'm simply pushing a sex positive attitude. I've some experience within the BDSM community and many friends who explore it more actively than I do, and "your kink is not my kink and that's OK" i…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 04:37 PM
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That's a pretty shitty attitude to take there dude but ok.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 03:05 PM
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No one factor "caused" my fetish. Fetishes simply happen due to who knows how many factors that could go all the way back to childhood for all I know. I discovered my interest - not really a fetish, just an interest - when I first experienced my partner sleeping with someone else. I found that focusing on her pleasure and enjoyment in the situation made it far easier for me to be comfortable with it, eventually to the point that I found the idea a turn on. Porn played absolutely no role in it, a…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 03:03 PM
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Oh wow, sadistic!? It's amazing how much ignorance there is around this. I see it regularly here on reddit whenever someone says their partner is suggesting some form of nonmonogamy the immediate resposes are "they're cheating and you should leave them" or something along those lines. Granted a lot of them are also trying to go into it for all the wrong reasons and in all the wrong ways, but it's so much less accepted than I had really realised until I really got into it (I've been lucky to find…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 01:03 PM
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Please don't describe other people's sexual interests as "gross". It's judgemental and derogatory and leads people to feel shame where they shouldn't. What you're looking for is "your kink is not my kink and that's OK."
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 12:52 PM
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The only valid point here is the comment about race, sorry.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 12:49 PM
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You can't apply "common sense" to psychological analysis of people you've never met.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 12:48 PM
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Wrong answer I'm afraid.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 12:47 PM
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Thank you. I needed to add this because there are some very poorly informed and problematic views in here.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 12:47 PM
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I feel I could describe myself as a willing cuckold to some extent, so I'll give you my two cents. I have an open relationship with my partner. We've been together for almost 4 years now and our relationship has been the healthiest and strongest of all the relationships I've had in the 17 years since my first relationship. We are based on a foundation of trust, compassion, care, empathy and communication. Sometimes, we have sex with other people. Simply put, we both acknowledge that we find othe…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 10:58 AM
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Because it's entirely subjective. What I want or don't want in a woman might be entirely different from what you want. What is good for me and what is good for you is entirely personal. Being able to form a healthy relationship with someone is mostly down to your own ability to look after yourself and identify when someone is treating you badly. What form that takes and how to detect it is so incredibly broad and grey that it's just not possible to put it into a simple list. It's not that we ass…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 10:37 AM
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The first rule of redpill guys is: do not listen to redpill guys. No, it is not over for women over 25. I'm a man in my 30s. I like to date women around my age. Many people in their 30s and beyond can still look like they're in their 20s. Many people don't, many people don't care. There will always be men the same age as you who are in the same place as you. Sure, there are some men who are only interested in dating women under 25 or whatever, but let's face it, they're creeps. I mean, what's yo…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 10:34 AM
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What do you want to achieve? That's an important first step here; you need to define some kind of goal for yourself. It doesn't have to be about changing your entire life, just break it down into something you could achieve in the next few months or couple of years. What habits do you want to form? What do you need in your life right now? Maybe a start could be finding some better paying work. What kind of work could that be? What do you need to do to get there? What support is there around for …
/r/ExRedPill07/08/22 09:31 PM
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