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Nope, red pill men aren't complaining about that. You're thinking of mainstream podcasters and media outlets who only know how to play victim olympics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 08:15 PM
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Damn it's like your last 2 brain cells are in a struggle for third place. Couldn't even begin to express a chain of logic that's relevant to anything. As amusing as it is to watch you flail with logic that was surpassed by ChatGPT several versions ago, I think I'm going to just block you instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 08:08 PM
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So why did you suggest that normal people would talk about it in those places? Assuming you have a brain, try to work out the logic of how your desired conclusion follows from the premises you set forth. They say that reddit is mostly bot traffic and I believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 07:45 PM
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We're losing because women are upset about things? People get upset when they're losing, not when they're winning. These are some groveling white knight rushing to save the damsel in distress words. What are you basing this on? Would you happen to have a bluesky account? Men only need women for sex. Women need men for EVERYTHING. They can't be scared away because as soon as their toilet won't flush or their internet goes out, their world starts crumbling and only a man can save them. Then add in…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 07:42 PM
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Why would anybody go to the farmer's market to talk about the gender war? And why would they do it with a total stranger? It's like saying we're winning the war against Russia because I don't see any Russians around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 07:32 PM
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The red pill adapted and changed with the times as any intelligent person would do. 2013 and 2025 are different times calling for different solutions. Women would love it if red pill was only about raising the bar for men. Now we're raising the bar for women too and hoes mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 03:04 PM
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You don't need "AI" to do this. All you need is some old site like Hot or Not or Photo Feeler that collects (relatively unbiased) ratings from people to make examples publicly available. Then you get rated on that site and find examples closest to your rating. BTW the subreddits where you can ask people to rate you are hideously biased and performative for reddit points.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:30 PM
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If you listen to all the gripes on social media, what's going on is women will date attractive men and try to apply their rules. Then after trying for a few months they give up, get super butthurt, and swear off dating. For an attractive guy, this is no big loss. He just calls up the next in line. For the dating culture in general, it's a disaster because there's like an assembly line churning out damaged women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 04:01 PM
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So if I was a different person, would I be as good as vetting somebody as the person I currently am? That sounds highly unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:45 PM
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Unless it's a blind date there's still ways to vet him before going on a date. If it's online you can text with him. If you met in person you can get to know him more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:59 AM
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https://x.com/MasonFinial/status/1949619983996117355 Someone posted a followup with a more worthy challenger to the japanese office girl ideal. As expected, the results are nearly an even split.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 04:47 PM
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Women don't even know what a good man is. They think being a good person is about performative bullshit like holding doors or paying for the first date. That could say a lot of things about the man, and it's not necessarily chivalry. You're a perfect example. You just defined a "good man" as a man with leftist political beliefs (already the minority of men). So you're a prime target for wokefishing. A lot of women thought David Hogg was good because he's a leftist. Then they found out he was dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 04:58 PM
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Red pill and manosphere is a gateway to right wing politics. Who knows how many votes it peeled off. But getting laid is hardly the only issue in play for voters. Besides the converse seems more natural to me, better economic equality would mean more men who can afford houses and families = more men getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 04:52 AM
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So now you're admitting to being a blatant misandrist to go with being a blatant hypocrite. Can't spell Lillith without a lot of L's
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 11:18 PM
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That wasn't your real name with photos. Off you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:48 PM
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Everyone defending the Tea app should be required to post their photos and full real name to reddit or be banned
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:16 PM
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deserve's got nothin to do with it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:05 AM
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Posting a fire emoji on Instagram should be punished with jail time
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:51 PM
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Computers and nintendo
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:19 PM
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They don't work Stop using them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:18 PM
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It sounds like your dissatisfaction with dating stems from makeup. In reality, the major causes of the current dating climate are dating apps, feminism, social media, and effects from pandemic lockdowns.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:45 PM
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What is this supposed to be? The unchanging reality of the human experience for everyone who wasn't born rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:33 PM
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Yup, I'm sure everyone agrees in advance on this when they go out and you didn't just appoint yourself to be the lord protector. Totally natural human behavior you're describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 05:31 PM
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Feminists are actually the fat ugly "friend" who cock blocks their pretty friends because they're jealous. Feminism is what happens when those fuglies band together on the internet. They've ruined the dating culture for pretty women on an industrial scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 04:01 PM
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Something I've realized as I've gotten older is that I have a type and that type is going to beat every other woman. It's not an uncommon type, there are many others like her (but this one is mine, insert Full Metal Jacket clip), but it would be pointless and redundant for me to go after women of the same type because they are so similar. Like I've already got one, why do I need another? This all assumes the woman is being the best version of herself. If you're letting yourself go and not taking…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:09 AM
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Average feminist hard at work for their cause
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:10 PM
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Are you suggesting that average/ugly men have multiple women chasing after them? Because any ugly man knows this isn't true. You're not fooling anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 07:04 PM
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The red pill didn't need anymore proof, there's already plenty. It's just a marketing problem at this point. These high profile incidents just help to get the message out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 05:50 PM
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It's very relevant. I'm not sure I want to get into the details of your relationship because it would be one-sided anyway but the point is women have a very sketchy definition of "abuse." This is the same gender that invented the term "microaggression." If he isn't beating you for burning the casserole, threatening or blackmailing you, I don't want to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 10:24 PM
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Imagine somebody tells you you're only allowed to have sex with them, then they make you sign a contract stating they can legally rob you if you have sex with somebody else or they're unhappy with you for any reason. They whisper all kinds of false promises and emotional manipulation to make you sign the contract. Then they stop having sex with you. This sounds like one of the scummiest, scammiest things a person could do. And it's extremely common.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:58 PM
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Bad boys getting into fights are extreme examples. I've no doubt some comic book nerd could be immature. They're also renowned for hygiene. But the popular feminist example of abuse these days is literally "doesn't take out the trash when asked." You only get one side of the story from all these supposedly abused women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:59 PM
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See, you're still judging men on these social proof / status markers that say more about what women are attracted to rather than somebody's character. If you want to judge somebody you need to look at what they say/do, how they react to things. But women don't want to talk about this because the ugly truth is they're attracted to pushy, rough, flawed personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:17 PM
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In an amazing twist of instant karma, someone hacked the Tea app and hard doxxed all the females using it to dox men. Selfies, driver's license shots, everything included. To nobody's surprise, it's all ugly middle aged women who have no chance with the guys they're talking about and are just bitter and angry about their rejection and/or using it for sport.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 01:06 AM
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So unattractive men and unattractive women are equally shitty to each other in relationships, even though they're "matched?" This is the false binary. The only answer is some do, some don't. It's a silly question to ask. All I'm saying is your partner is more likely to treat you well the more attracted they are and the more special they think the relationship is. This can happen with "average" looking people because that's an overly reductive and simplistic term. But you're more likely to get gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:57 PM
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There's a lot of problems with this because everyone has a different definition of average and attractive. Average is a low bar in America these days. But mostly, you're posing absolutes and false binaries. Generally, if someone feels their partner isn't very exciting or attractive, they're unlikely to put up with a lot of shit or go to great lengths to keep them. How is that hard to understand? I can't believe I have to explain these things. If women wanted princess treatment then orbiters woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:30 PM
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Of course. If you're unattractive, everyone is going to treat you worse. If a guy doesn't feel lucky to have you, he's not going to act like it. That's a big problem for women who want "princess treatment." If you want princess treatment you might have to compromise big time on looks and other criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:55 PM
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This is why I don't main Mario in Mario Kart. He's been modeling simp behavior this whole time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 07:49 PM
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This happened to me once a long time ago. Could not get a table at the planned restaurant. We ate at the other restaurant, turned out she was not worth it and this does factor into how I handle dating going forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 07:44 PM
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Name calling is the last pathetic defense you have as the tide rises higher and higher. Deny deflect and disparage until it's too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 07:26 PM
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Because attractive young women flock to major cities and you won't find many of them in rural areas. I know this from experience. The young women you do find are not attractive because they have no competition or they don't care about attracting a top tier guy. So they may have better morals but they're still not worth spending your life with them. Your idea of rural women is a fictional alternative and red pill is focusing on the most common case.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:15 PM
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The manosphere is already having a field day with the Tea app. Women truly are red pill's best recruiters. Thank you thank you thank you thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:23 AM
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These aren't vetting tools, they're reputation destruction tools, which is women's favored method of malicious behavior. All it's going to do is further poison the well. Female dating behavior is fundamentally rooted in delusion and no matter what facts you present them with, they will choose whatever version of the story they want to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 11:40 PM
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Just sit back and watch the world burn
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 11:02 PM
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The lengths they are going to obstruct justice and enable defamation is not going to look good in court when they are inevitably sued.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 11:00 PM
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It's more like everything is being oversimplified. All men are like this, all women are like that, 6/6/6 standard, who pays on the first date etc All very simplistic binary and superficial thinking. And fundamentally, just a copout so you can give up and shift blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:26 PM
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If you ask a dating coach or matchmaker, this means don't bail just because you don't feel some bullshit like "chemistry" or a "spark." I think that's fair. I don't think anybody should date someone they're not attracted to. What's the point? That's just setting up cheating or a breakup later on. For that reason I won't go for women that aren't my type, and I'm pretty clear about what that is. If someone is your type physically and personality, you should give them a second date/chance even if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 04:49 PM
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Nah, even if women somehow "screened" men better it wouldn't matter because their internalized feminism disqualifies them for anything more than sex. There's way too many downsides to relationships for men nowadays which is why no one is choosing to get into them. You're just going to get beat down and abused because men are to blame for everything before she takes half your stuff and your house.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 11:34 PM
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This isn't the gotcha you think it is. There is no agreement that cold approach is the best course of action. If anything the current consensus is there is no good course of action at all. Your suggestion to "get to know women" wrongly assumes men can even put themselves in regular contact with attractive single women. Most adults are not in school. Church only applies to religious people. Wtf is a social club? Every hobby group I go to has no young women in them at all, before we even get to wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 11:28 PM
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What? This is already the case. That's the whole point of red pill and MGTOW. Men aren't going to get better because women are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 02:23 PM
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Ok and your estimate includes grandmas in the percentage and is completely dumb. This thread is about the next generation of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:01 PM
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Ok but no one cares about women over 30 or wants their OF. The stat I heard was specifically for women between 18-22.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:41 PM
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I didn't, someone else made it up and I blindly accepted it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:40 PM
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But now 25% of young women have an Only Fans too. You don't even have to ask for the spicy pics anymore. And for a lot of men, those women have basically disqualified themselves as relationship material and they're going to be treated accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:05 PM
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Yeah it's dating apps and social media and specifically Tinder. Just because you don't like the answer doesn't mean it's wrong. Tinder was created in 2012 with more and more getting exposed to it every year since then. This is when things started shifting in a very bad way. Once Tinder became the dominant app, it really just started destroying male hopes and egos all over the place. After a few years of Tinder even mentally strong ones will crack. Now in 2025 the damage is completely done and a …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:02 PM
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Every time I've been in regular contact with women, I've had plenty of interest. It was usually the women who showed interest first. But ever since I've moved I've had no social circle and no way of getting women into my social circle. WFH and #MeToo cut off another major avenue I'd meet women. Of course, dating apps are complete garbage. I'm also old enough to notice that people are less social in public settings now, most likely thanks to the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:35 AM
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Being attractive gets you access to better men. Being "male friendly" helps you keep one. There are plenty of men who got tired of their attractive woman once they discovered the many downsides of the relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:11 PM
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Please stop playing dumb. Women actively screen out nice, considerate, respectful men. You want men who are a challenge, out of your league, and their confidence comes from the fact that they know they can do better than you and they don't really care how it turns out with you. If you wanted a challenge you got one. Enjoy the chase, enjoy the failure. If you could choose better, you would.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:36 PM
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She's using etymology to nitpick and dodge the core point and she's not even right with her own custom definitions. Ain't no way Trump's policies are more radical than redefining male and female and allowing explicitly racist and sexist admissions policies. Meanwhile the original data of the massive gap between college women and everyone else with a clear causal factor gets completely ignored while she writes her Women's Studies etymology distraction paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:02 PM
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"Radical is when women don't do what I want them to do". Look at you, rephrasing everything into the brainwashing framework they taught you in school. Still going for that A? Sounds like a Women's Studies major to me. Nice last resort to etymology to dodge the commonly understood definition of radical. It's fun to watch you squirm. I wasn't really expecting math class to be brought in though 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:46 PM
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Yeah this is why the most up to date red pill advice is to not chase women or waste any time on them really. The game is rigged. Just because someone's offering you a shit deal doesn't mean you have to take it. In dating, men are treated about as well as illegal immigrant labor in US society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:38 PM
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You basically admitted you don't care about my objective definition of radicalized because you have TDS. Trump was not the only poll question in the linked article which supports my position so even despite your TDS you still have no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:34 PM
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The article presented 7 different poll questions where white college women were FAR out of step with their demographic. Trump is just the highest profile one so I used that. Taken together these paint a picture that could easily be used as a indicator for a larger difference in worldviews.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:27 PM
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There are multiple kinds of programs and laws to preferentially give you jobs and scholarships over men and you still think you're oppressed. The 19th Amendment was a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:30 PM
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Lol she's not nice, she's always running down Barack. She's never said a nice thing about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:32 AM
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All of the bad taste with none of the warm fuzzies Yeah just give me a soda
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:30 AM
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Reddit is dead, not red pill. Reddit is the most left wing spot on the internet and it's tiny compared to other social media. And it's shrinking. Go on any other social media and right wing is dominating. You just have no idea what's outside your bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:55 AM
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People do advocate for men to be more feminine. You're doing it right now. Whacked reddit leftists is mostly where you'll find this. Because only leftists deny physical realities and differences between the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:11 PM
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This is so obviously wrong. Most people want a loving relationship and a family. And you're saying most people are better off alone forever? Like what? I agree that it's better to focus on things you enjoy rather than trying to chase down the opposite sex, especially in today's world of delusional expectations and broken people everywhere. But it's not ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:06 PM
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So you agree with me that women don't want to be approached. Cool. If you're saying that women are only okay with it in one of two or three settings where you've pretty much already been preapproved like a private party, that rules out 98% of men and situations and you don't have an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:34 PM
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Too bad nearly every data point disagrees with you. The societal trends are all horrific and you aren't even trying to explain that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:28 PM
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50 years ago was 1975. Women were well-established in many career fields at that point. Yet another feminist idiot brainwashed to think women were living in cages until 10 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:51 PM
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It's misogynistic until a woman uses PMS as an excuse for their bad behavior. Then it's empowerment or some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:50 PM
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It's not about women "owing" anything that's a weird and dumb way to look at it. It's about societal causes and failures. 50 years ago this was not an issue. Now marriage and fertility rates are at record lows and society is actually crumbling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:43 PM
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Could it be because women on social media spent the last 10+ years saying they don't want men to approach them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:30 PM
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Everyone gets this wrong. That's not settling. This is what's wrong with women. They think settling = I didn't get my perfect fantasy custom ordered human being wahhhh. Settling is when you could have done better but didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 01:33 AM
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I'm asking this question from the perspective of a single woman who doesn't want to have children because I'm scared that a man might change after we’re together, and I could end up trapped in a relationship with him. Then, if I leave, my chances of finding another partner while having a child would be lower.. The whole point of those vows is to trap you in a relationship. You obviously don't "get" marriage so please stop worrying about it, you're not wife material. You're a modern woman collect…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:49 PM
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I believe this is some form of satire or performance art
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:36 PM
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When a guy is hitting a woman or making physical threats, we've gone beyond "mental health issues." That is such a weird way to classify it. This is crossing boundaries a normal guy knows not to cross, and that's dangerous. Women can't fix him because he's resorting to physical dominance instead of dealing with his emotions. What will fix him is a good ass kicking so he learns that's a bad path to go down.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:53 PM
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Same reason I will mock anyone who pays for OnlyFools. It's simp behavior and another kind of hoeflation. Prostitutes are more respectable than LonelyFans because at least they get you off, but it's still bad for society to have more prostitutes and less wives with families. It's definitely a trap for both the men and women involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:18 AM
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"Oppressed" is a strong word. I'd agree that it's historically unusual for this to truly happen, but it does happen. I'd point to women in Afghanistan as an example. It's a lot more common for a gender to be culturally favored, disfavored, disparaged etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:53 PM
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Every country with legal abortion. Men don't have the right to abortion or anything equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:50 PM
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From probably the age of 14 these women have be pursued heavily for long term relationships by high status men The fact that you believe this shows why these women need better guidance 🤣 High status men don't trip over themselves to lock down a 7. Those good looks don't last forever. All the fertility and marriage data proves that women are failing to capitalize on their good looks and are either getting married at the last minute or ending up childless. This is bad for everyone in all kinds of …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:34 AM
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The photo on the right is worse because of lighting, crop etc. I think a lot of guys don't believe women anymore because they're well-known to say whatever they think will make them look good rather than the truth. That said... I do find it believable that women find shredded physiques less attractive than moderate body fat because I also feel that way. The right photo looks emaciated whereas the left is healthier (not perfect). I've always felt like minimal body fat is more like an unrealistic …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:19 PM
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Holding people accountable is what the police do, except unlike you they are sometimes successful. You're just some lunatic internet vigilante wound up and set loose by CNN and r/politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:48 PM
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"i know u miss this big juicy ass. $25k per cheek" 22 year old woman preys upon, financially exploits and manipulates old man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:01 PM
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Oh my god thank you for perfectly proving my point. The true subject of interest is how somebody could be so obsessed with policing the thoughts of others they go and buy a book about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:25 PM
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Except when that gets in the way of hurting men. Then women aren't mentally capable of making their own choices. Feminist priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:59 PM
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Actually this is a book about you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:48 PM
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22yr old girl whose prefrontal cortex is still underdeveloped and is sueing for $50M Ok, let's take away her driver's license, right to vote, own a gun, and have a job. Her prefrontal cortex is underdeveloped who knows what mistakes she'll make.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:11 PM
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Q4M would you date a single mom who is otherwise perfect to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:29 PM
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While teaching is low pay, it's a female-dominated field so that presents some opportunities. Dating co-workers is a risky proposition but it's still better than being in a high paying male-dominated field where you never even meet any women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:26 PM
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You are using words like "intimidated" and "insecure" to disparage men and then complain they don't date you. Amazing self-awareness as always. You chose a career over love. Stop coping and enjoy the life you made for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:07 PM
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Who the fuck says "I prefer naive girls" except as a joke? Do you need to argue against joke positions because you can't handle real ones? These debate tactics are dishonest and pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:09 PM
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I don't think anyone on any side is denying that a bad relationship is worse than being single. I definitely appreciate my singlehood when the most popular thing among feminists right now is to keep score in relationships. I'm now pretty sure feminists are just rejected women who hate men and are jealous and bitter of happy couples and want to ruin them. It makes me wonder if the main reason women are pursuing relationships is to get someone to do chores for them and they're just not up front ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:47 PM
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You just made an argument for legalizing fraud. Least intelligent of comments right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:41 PM
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If you don't see this you're just ignorant of the situation. They are basically one of the hottest internet scams. You don't even have to leave reddit to see it. Basically every porn subreddit has been taken over by OF spam and their posts are usually pretending to be someone looking for a relationship. Even non-porn subreddits have been totally infested. Look at r/selfie and click on the users posting. A large portion of those posts are OF bait posing as normal girls. Then you look at their bus…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:12 PM
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I'm pretty sure an inability to understand very basic social rules and norms like that is a sign of autism. Redditors have a very hard time with population subsets and frequencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:48 PM
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It's not highly irresponsible to be truthful. Depending on someone's mental state, in extreme cases they may not be ready to confront the truth. But sooner or later you have to. Note that this truth does not preclude the possibility of change. I think this is another example of the left prioritizing protecting feelings over speaking the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:38 PM
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It's a lot harder for women to be bigoted against their own gender. They're forced to see them as a human and not as an ATM or some fantasy trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:02 PM
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Seething hatred? I think the "quiet seething hatred" is the negative assumptions you make about men. Bad life choices aside the problem with single mothers is you basically get all the bad parts and hard work without the fun stage of the relationship. The return on investment is "you're not my real dad." No one wants to be the cleanup crew and pay for somebody else's mistakes or bad behavior. This is really not difficult to understand and yet we somehow twisted it into incel bashing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:56 PM
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This is all just some unrealistic unicorn fantasy scenario. Modern women are not like this, especially high earning types. No woman is going to come along and just give me a free ride in life without asking for anything in return. Also lol at all the replies being under the automod because reddit chased away all the red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 04:09 AM
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You're just mad no man wants to be alone in a room with you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:59 PM
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Marry C, if she hates every man but me she'll definitely be loyal. Plus she'll probably pump up my ego by comparing me favorably to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 12:09 AM
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I just bought eggs for $8 at the supermarket. I'm pretty sure this country is ready to explode regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 11:56 PM
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Oh my god I've never seen so much cope, insecurity and female delusion in my life. It's like a petri dish. My friend you've made a scientific discovery. The lack of self-awareness is hilarious given the name of the subreddit. Yes they're intimidated by your job, not because you're a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 11:52 PM
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You're comparing it to dating through social circles as if this is a real or more legitimate way to date. The problem is that social circles are entirely dependent on your friends or family knowing singles of the opposite sex who are potentially a match for you. In many cases, your social circle's dating pool isn't even a puddle. I don't see why this type of dating is any more real than others. It's just the easiest way to date if you're lucky in friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 07:07 PM
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If it makes you feel any better, I make 6 figures in skilled labor, have a master's degree, own a car and a house, and I'm at a healthy weight. None of it matters. Just be over 6 feet, born with the right face shape, and have the right group of homies who can connect you with women or take good photos of you water skiing or something. Dating is all about having good marketing, not a good product.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:18 PM
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I've got a new word for redditors. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/most This is the assumption intelligent people make when they are making generalizations. Anyone intelligent knows you will always find exceptions and minorities in social sciences. It's only interesting when it's a big pattern or the majority. This post is just copium for tattooed single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:53 PM
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"All women act this way" is not a quote in any post of mine. You seem to be hallucinating. Very weird and concerning. Since you refuse to engage in good faith with a reasonable formulation of my position, that makes you the loser goodbye.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:32 AM
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That depends on whether the relationship is going well or poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:56 PM
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It's a generalization so spare me the childish all or nothing thinking. Also, 26 was her number not mine. I'd say looks peak at 20ish, slowly decline, then start declining rapidly around 33. Generally, older single women are probably "strong independent" career women by choice or necessity which is quite masculine. And they've probably suffered some failed relationships and emotional scars in that time. That is all the opposite of what men want. Men want sweet, feminine, innocent light-hearted w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:51 PM
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Do you think men aren't aware of this when they propose marriage? Or are you the only one who's noticed people become less attractive as they age? Maybe some men start thinking about having a family or someone they like to grow old with. A man falls in love with a woman because of her looks and charm and the good times they've had together. The looks may go but the love does not because it's still the same person. Why do I feel like I'm explaining things to a five year old? The problem with post…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:07 PM
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One of these has mainstream backing everywhere from CNN to Hollywood, where they claim they are oppressed by a patriarchal society. The other is not only demonized, demonetizied and deplatformed by said mainstream, but when leftists are in charge it actually gets repressed by the government too. That's a big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 02:31 PM
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Yet another edition of women hitting the wall. By the time a woman has this kind of money to spend on matchmaking, she's old and washed up and men don't want her anymore. Then she finds out money can't buy happiness and she made the wrong choices and that's life. Thanks for posting this though, that's hilarious. I agree with the matchmaker's idea to find more cost-effective methods. Cats are way cheaper!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 03:41 AM
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No, they're not approaching because they have social skills and it's a shit idea. Closed body language is a rejection, don't need to approach to get your answer. The guys who approach anyway are the ones without the social skills to read this, or ones who don't care, aka annoying guys. In almost every social group I've been a part of, I've had women flirt with me or show interest at some point. Cold approach is the social equivalent of a bum begging for change. If you're socially well-off and at…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:58 PM
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Women do flirt with men they're interested in, but it's usually not a cold approach and it's subtle. If you're part of her social group and she's attracted she will start flirting with you. If you can't read the signs that's your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:37 PM
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The only thing I can say against this is that the dating problems of minority or foreign men are still valid, and they have more problems than majority or native men. But I do agree that a problem with online discourse is we don't know who's speaking or their context, and a lot of these red pill men don't speak for others and their problems aren't my problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 07:18 PM
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Looks and behavior are enough for a woman but not enough for a man. You need to have all that and more. The most important thing in life is connections. Social validation is one of the primary attractants for women. Once you're out of college your opportunities to naturally make new connections are very limited and it only gets worse with age. Especially if you work in the wrong field. When men go to activity groups, they go to ones appealing mainly to men, and very attractive women are trying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:18 PM
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Behave in what way? Watch some videos, post a comment, delete your dating apps, maybe get some exercise? 🤣 But no, Netflix said red pill is all about stabbing and Netflix would never lie. What's scary is simple-minded folk such as yourself will watch a fictional propaganda narrative and believe all of it without question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:57 AM
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The majority of experiences that men have with women are also non-aversive, outside of the dating context (eg, when they want something from the woman in question). Yes and? What are we talking about here? Red pill is a dating strategy. It's only about dating. It doesn't care about how women act outside of dating, and it doesn't say anything about women outside of dating or romantic interest. It's only the haters condemning red pill men for being total misogynists or whatever. But you can contin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:47 AM
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Yes, there are many variables to consider. You seem reasonable so I'll tell you what I think is really going on. It all depends on the environment you put somebody in, especially with women. And social media has basically broken women's brains. They go on Instagram and TikTok and gas each other up or give terrible dating advice, the female equivalent of red pill. Then they get pro ball players with blue checkmarks sliding into their DMs or 1000+ likes on Tinder. Add the incessant mainstream femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:15 AM
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Ok good talk bye
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:57 AM
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The bad boy thing... there's a lot of related points. Women say they want an emotionally available man, a chivalrous man, a respectful man, someone who chases them. Funny thing is, whenever I exhibited any of those things women immediately lost interest. I now know this is very nearly the opposite of the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:56 AM
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You mean you're genuinely concerned that someone is taking your precious victim card and you're trying to think of ways to steal it back by any means necessary. You should move to the UK, they think like you and that country is doing great.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:41 AM
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By this point, I'm genuinely surprised that some of the most valid counterpoints haven't been posted yet. People are just going for lots of low blows as usual. What do you want me to do, argue both sides?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:38 AM
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So you're one of those people who blames someone born around 2000 for things that happened 100 years ago. Okay. Believe it or not but in today's America, the majority of experiences a black person has with white people is positive. In a dating context, this is not true for men with respect to women. It's overwhelmingly harsh rejections and unreasonable demands. The positive counterexamples are the minority, and that's the key difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:22 AM
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Ok here's a few examples. Showing no class or respect when turning away men making a doomed advance, and in many cases being openly hateful towards men when dealing with them. It goes so much deeper than this but I'll leave it there. Another example, treating men like an ATM. Demanding a fancy date, the man pays for it, and then insisting you're equal. If I have to pay for your time, that's an unequal relationship from the start. Last example, the classic blue pill guy getting passed over for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:13 AM
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Well said. Never take dating advice from a woman. Especially your mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:01 AM
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The more they fight it, the stronger it gets
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:59 PM
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When all else fails, use labels and name calling
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:44 PM
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If someone acts mean to you, and then many who are similar to them act mean to you as well, and others tell you they have experienced the same, then what? It's plainly rational behavior that when most people act a certain way, you anticipate and plan around that behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:36 PM
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Red pill isn't radicalization. This is just something leftists say when they want to censor somebody. There's no advocacy for violence, it just runs counter to the interests of their voting blocs and a convenient boogeyman. Netflix had to make up a stabbing incident because it's never happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:30 PM
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So the biggest podcast in the world, primarily among men, regularly has red pill content on it, and you somehow have this delusional belief that men are on your side. You are on one of the last leftist safe space shitheaps of the internet. Everything else has left you behind and you still haven't figured it out yet. New media is absolutely dominated by the right.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:23 PM
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Women can't control men. They can't even control themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:18 PM
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I would be humiliated to base the things I believe and the way I treat people on random people in my past who I perceived as treating me in a way not befitting a man of my standing. When a leftist does it, you call it "lived experience" and you freak the fuck out that women, brown people, or gays are being mistreated. When a white man does it, you say "random people in my past who I perceived as treating me in blah blah blah"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:13 PM
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Great question. Red pill warns people when others are being assholes and tells you to avoid said assholes. Completely normal, rational, justified and even pro-social behavior. Only a problem unless you're an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:11 PM
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This post is so illogical it hurts. First of all you equivocated the word standards. Statistical averages describe what the data is, standards say what the data should be. If 50% of people have no money in their savings account in America, is that a good thing because it's the average? Your definition of standards means the world would never improve and mediocrity should be rewarded, which absolutely tracks with leftist Marxism. Equal outcomes for unequal effort for everyone yay! Sadly for fat S…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 09:09 PM
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The standards OP put are not high standards. Only one of them requires any effort at all (staying thin). The others are just a function of being born. This just shows how distorted and trashed the western dating market is, if these are considered high standards. You have no idea what people on here look like. Can we at least agree that a reasonable standard is one that you can meet for yourself? Like I'm not obese, drug-addicted, a single parent or ugly so why would I date that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:13 PM
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Before red pill I had low standards. I'm really lucky that women don't right swipe 🤣 Now I know how to avoid all the traps and bad situations. I'll probably be single forever but that's better than being in a bad situation or divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 05:43 PM
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This is another example of a woman only noticing highly attractive men who have the luxury of high standards, while all other men are invisible
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 05:37 PM
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Cold approach is like Tinder but worse because you are risking public humiliation and rejection. She knows nothing about you, it's still all based on looks, and oftentimes you'll get some hostility because you're bothering somebody. For most guys, the success rate for both online dating and cold approach is trash. When you cold approach you put yourself on the same level as a bum begging for change but in a dating context. Why does anyone think women will find this attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 04:44 PM
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You know that line in the Dark Knight where the Joker says we're only as good as the world allows us to be? Most people are also as bad as the world allows them to be, too. And attractive people are able to get away with a whole lot more than unattractive people. Wait for the Luigi verdict. If it makes you feel any better, I expect beautiful women to be pretty bad partners, too. Ever heard the term "spoiled" before?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:35 PM
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If someone has no grasp of probability or rational decisionmaking, don't bother trying to explain it to them in a reddit post, friend
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:25 PM
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IF. Most ladies lose all self-control when they're around a really attractive dude. It's fish in a barrel.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:21 PM
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Society and women use thirst traps everywhere to manipulate men (simps) into giving money or other effort. You're not supposed to try and express or realize those desires, you've gone off the script. You're just supposed to do what they want. Obligatory if you're a Chad this rule doesn't apply to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:53 PM
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It's not about the money anymore, but a lot of women really want to have kids and be married. When they can't get the guy who meets their standards, they'll just lock down Mr. Beta bux to help them achieve their dream of having kids and getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:21 PM
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Friend zoned for life
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:01 PM
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Why are you even asking me that? It's 2025, no one is held to those standards. That's the whole point of red pill, you can't put Humpty Dumpty back together again. Red pill says look at how immoral women are, act accordingly. Then blue pill gets shocked and denies any immorality on the part of women while blaming red pill for the things they say. But the real scummy behavior is blue pill trying to perpetuate these lies and myths about women being wonderful and pure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:38 AM
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Where does it say he wants to date these women? And why would it make him part of the problem? Maybe he just wants to fuck them, same as the other horrible men are doing. It's all just unavoidable human nature at this point. This is what happens when the guardrails of traditional values get obliterated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:52 AM
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Yup the hive mind that is banned from every mainstream outlet, truly the most conformist of movements. Since we're going through post histories, it didn't take long to see a pattern of you thinking you're better than everyone. This completely tracks with your advice to be a tame, i little mouse that does as it's told and fears speaking the truth. Classic leftist and gaining the respect of people like you is at the bottom of my priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:44 AM
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Brainwashed hive member validates another brainwashed hive member's vomit, you've convinced me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:35 PM
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Hinge doesn't even have a bio to read, it's just 3 dumb attempts to get you to post some trivia about yourself that might spark a conversation but tells you almost nothing about the person
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 03:04 PM
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I would disagree that a person's job tells you nothing about their passions or personality, or even who they are as a person. Your physical and mental capabilities are part of your definition as a person as well. Ultimately, all sexual or romantic attraction is selfish in nature. There aren't a lot of people choosing their partners out of pity, they expect to get something out of it. Women are just very good at spinning things and managing their image.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:56 AM
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It's so funny how people can fly into an unhinged rage like that based on someone's flair in a subreddit. Worth being red pill for that alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:41 PM
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Hello, welcome to planet Earth, where humans make assumptions. What's your species called?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:35 PM
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he gets her loyalty, her effort, her support, and yes, sex too. No he doesn't. Women say they have no obligations in a relationship, they love divorce and they love complaining about men not putting in enough effort. These are the key takeaways from PPD, every woman here says this. It's better to pump and dump than be in a relationship because being in a relationship just gives a woman more opportunity to leech off of you while bringing no skills or effort to the table. Alpha fucks beta bucks is…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:54 PM
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I'm not sure being entitled means being unappreciative. It's valid to complain if you don't feel appreciated, because people should still be appreciated for doing their duty. But if you think you don't owe time, energy, or other labor to your LIFE PARTNER then you're terrible and I bet you treat your boss and coworkers better than your husband. This is why men need to demand more. Your boss will fire your ass if you don't live up to your promises and that's probably why you treat him better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:01 PM
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The problem with that is women think they have to be the most beautiful of them all. It's just not true. If anything, women who are a little above average get the most attention. I think women know this and this problem is just women competing with each other. I don't see how women can think Instagram models are the average. Do they not leave their houses and see what real women actually look like??
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:04 PM
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Wow, you think you can be in a relationship and not give any time, energy, love or intimacy? This is why the smart men don't want relationships anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:56 PM
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Laying a hand on you because you told somebody off is way over the line and it was self-defense. In any busy place, women think they have 1000 white knights at their command for whatever reason questionable or not and they're usually right. If you let that slide, you could have found yourself ganged up on. It happens to guys all the time. Also when the woman threw her drink and then her glass at you, that's assault. I can respect if you don't want to get the police involved but women use the sys…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:47 PM
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I've never gotten a full-blown freakout like that. The worst I've really had is women pretending not to hear me or acting like I'm some kind of bum or criminal which is pretty insulting nonetheless. I never come on too strong though, my biggest flaw has been nervousness. Any rejection still feels shitty though and the success rate is not worth the squeeze. I'm sure alcohol was a pretty big factor in how they reacted there. I don't go to bars so maybe that's why I don't get crazy reactions. Women…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:28 PM
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Women with slightly above average looks probably get hit on more than all other women. They're just attractive enough to make guys interested, but unattractive enough that their looks are not intimidating and every guy thinks they have a shot with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:18 PM
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There's some truth to this. Men aren't intimidated by boss babes but they are intimidated by beautiful women. It's pretty likely they'll have a big ego, high standards, high maintenance, and better options than you. Even if you get her, you probably won't keep her. It's not worth the risk of humiliation and then all the financial upkeep for something that's probably doomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:19 PM
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Which one? There are multiple. Here's one: https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/lifestyle/many-online-daters-arent-seeking-actual-dates-rcna94163 65%
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:54 AM
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A pool that's all single, aw how sweet. One study has indicated that the majority of users on dating apps are married or in relationships. A lot of these women just end up becoming side-chicks whether they know it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:24 AM
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take your medication and try again
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:17 PM
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The way people treat you over the course of your life and the options you have absolutely affects your personality and decisionmaking
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:09 PM
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your mind goes in incredibly weird directions
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:07 PM
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Some women use clothes to show off their body. Others use them to show off their personality. I prefer the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:58 PM
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Lots of men including myself instinctively avoid hitting on the most beautiful women because we rationally recognize that attractive people are the least trustworthy. These people have the most options and the highest standards, and are therefore the most demanding and the most likely to hurt you. This is the rational basis for looks matching where you seek out someone on your level so you don't get burned. Women seem to have not figured this out, get burned over and over which is why they're cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:49 PM
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The OKCupid data remains undefeated
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:27 PM
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Right, because humans only have 2 settings: ugly and beautiful. Oh wait that's only how women think. If you're not 8+ then you're repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:27 PM
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Because it's not in male nature to be reliant on our partner for success in life It's part of women's nature no matter how much feminism tells you otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 06:39 PM
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I’ll repeat this one more time because I want to make this explicitly clear. I am not referring to men who they themselves follow a traditional set of values Okay, so you're shutting down debate by ruling out anyone who isn't a hypocrite. So the point of this is what? To take shots at traditional families while you rule out the strongest defense? Yeah I get it, Tate and F&F are assholes. Those are not the only manosphere creators.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 09:44 PM
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Reddit is a propaganda machine There's very few sources that allow diversity of opinions in 2025
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 09:36 PM
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If her communication skills were on that level, I'd laugh at her then cancel the date. It's wildly spoiled, entitled, and sexist to think a woman's time is more important than a man's. Why are you assuming the woman isn't wasting the man's time? Nope. If it's a complete stranger, the whole point of a first date is to figure out if I like her enough to pursue her. It's hugely spoiled, entitled, and narcissistic to think that complete strangers should be buying you things. Women would have a much …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 09:34 PM
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Every major news outlet is a propaganda machine. One of the other propaganda machines got to you first and told you to hate Fox News, so you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:12 AM
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Hahahaha I didn't ask because I knew you'd leap at the opportunity to virtue signal anyway. That's so crazy how women always take the most virtuous yet statistically improbable positions. Sorry but the internet has blown your cover that's why red pill has taken over.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:52 AM
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I'm sorry, did you not notice the millions of simps and sugar daddies throwing away their money just for a little female attention? You're definitely one of the ones who demands the man pay for dates and then claims you're equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:21 AM
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This is just colonial era white girl savior logic infantilizing people outside their western bubble. It assumes non-western people are not capable of thinking for themselves and improving their own lives, and they need the noble white girl to save them from the evil white man. Ironically, this thinking all stems from liberal guilt and hypocrisy because the American left is comprised overwhelmingly of rich, highly educated people running corporations that exploit the rest of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:12 AM
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Women love having a power imbalance in dating until they're the ones without the power
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:03 AM
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No one wants to be with someone that narcissistic. If she's not excited that I'm proposing to her, it's not meant to be. This is why the marriage rate is in the trash can lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:17 PM
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Sorry but that sounds gay
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 08:59 PM
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I won't even leave my house to get women Why the fuck would I break my legs for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 08:57 PM
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Everything is temporary and very few things are guaranteed in life. Kids are a major life change and you're just being unreasonable if you think they're not going to disrupt your life a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:35 AM
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If the fear is a dead bedroom, you should just have a long relationship before proposing instead of breaking your word. If you're 5+ years into a relationship and she's still putting out, she's probably wife material. Men really suck at testing women and gatekeeping them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:16 AM
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Leftism's grift is to constantly rage bait women (and others). They need you to be miserable and angry so you'll keep voting for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 08:20 PM
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Have you seen the stuff feminists say? Have you seen what they look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:48 PM
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Wow you've discovered there's more than one kind of hypocrite
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:10 PM
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Congratulations Have you registered to be a member of the pity party yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 06:13 PM
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Another great example of female logic. "Women are too picky" and "I don't want to feel like she settled for me" are not mutually exclusive. They're actually logical identical and one implies the other. When someone says "women are too picky" they are also saying your definition of "settling" is incorrect. You were never going to get the 6'3" financial consultant making 200k just like I'm never going to get Miss 36DD. The difference is I know this and I know I'm not settling if the woman I'm with…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 06:07 PM
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Yup, men are always wrong You're hurting your case more than helping, you sound like these dating coaches
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:16 PM
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Women say they won't let a man control how they dress, so in that case it's best to pre-filter out the ones who are dressing to get attention from other men and make us look bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:47 AM
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The vows are just another Instagram moment for the current generation of women and nothing more
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 10:44 PM
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Depends on who you're talking to. Conservatives saw the 4B movement as a double or even triple win. It was like the leftist witches had a miraculous conversion and were adopting traditional values. Either that or they were swearing off reproduction, meaning fewer leftists. Of course we all knew these people have no self-control and the 4B tantrum has already died out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:11 PM
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Probably a lot less hoeing of the garden when they realize society doesn't have them covered with an insurance plan for all the risk taking and bad choices
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 06:11 AM
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So ChatGPT copy and paste is allowed here?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 03:16 AM
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Tattoos are when somebody wears their internal mental conflicts on their skin. The demons are winning with those ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:40 AM
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The problem is once you start telling men this, you get branded a misogynist and extremist and get demonetized or deplatformed. Because you've basically just repackaged manosphere and red pill content and that's exactly what has happened to them. Turns out "the future is female" media doesn't like it when you point out some women have flaws. And the women who have those flaws definitely don't like it, and it applies to a very large percentage of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:09 PM
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Because women's attempts at violence are pathetic and they fail at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:26 AM
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most men don’t have to fear being stalked or taken advantage of by other men or women simply because they’re alone Absurd statement. Men and women are victims of violent crime at nearly equal rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:20 AM
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Simple, you can think he's a creep and nobody else has to believe it until they see it. Too bad women have fucked themselves by calling every unwanted guy a creep and no one's going to believe you anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:58 PM
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Women are innately biased due to their physical inferiority and feel threatened by men. Men understand male psychology way better, are unbiased and can tell the difference between a guy who is awkward or ugly and a guy who doesn't respect boundaries or is some kind of mental case. Only the word of a man should count in judging if a guy is a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:22 PM
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Unhealthy relationships often land the man in jail or his kids taken away from him. So it's pretty fucked that a lot of women want this or they'll get bored and leave you. For me personally and a lot of red pill men this is a pretty good reason to avoid relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:51 AM
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The whole point of red pill is to go from unattractive to attractive Black pill is the doom and gloom pill
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:51 AM
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Why are all the examples men? There are women with no real relationship options and there's good reasons for that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:56 PM
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If she leaves God for you then you know it's love
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:56 AM
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This is core to red pill. Women are actually attracted more to abusive men. It is well-documented that having dark triad traits (narcissism, psychopathy, Machiavellianism) makes you generally more attractive to women. For example narcissists tend to be good looking because they obsess over their looks. This is encapsulated in the "nice guys finish last" timeless truth. Women like confident, dominant, aggressive, fearless men. By selecting like this you are increasing your chances of being abused…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:07 AM
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I ran your requirements through the female delusion calculator. According to you, only 0.35% of (unmarried) men are high quality. I don't think anyone should be taking advice from you. Every man is allowed to have his own likes and dislikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:05 AM
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Feminists say women should not be people pleasers They also say women are better than men because they have a greater sense of empathy Pick one
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:29 PM
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Yeah I know, every blue piller on here hasn't dated for 10+ years and has no idea what's going on now Friendly advice, don't screw things up. Keep living in that 2007 dating dream world. You don't want any part of the 2025 hellscape.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:16 PM
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I wouldn't knowingly date an RP man It's just like I said Women are always lying about who they'd date
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:37 PM
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Men just have an honesty problem Women deny deflect and gaslight when their dating strategies are just as horrific
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:53 PM
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Oh playing the victim, everybody loves that argument. The problem is that in this case, when you make bad decisions you are both the victim and the perpetrator. They cancel each other out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:47 PM
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This is such an obvious and tautological statement that it's worthless to say it. Do better? Oh why didn't I think of that? People are always trying to do better. The problem is that they suck. This is why red pill is so strong. Stop living in the fantasy world where people of strong moral character are rewarded. Live in the real world where nice guys finish last and reap the benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:44 PM
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People who have been with their partners for years are not in the dating pool and haven't been for years and are therefore irrelevant to the current situation. Besides you are making some data-driven selection effect argument with no data because there is no good data. The stats that have come out on dating and relationships now have all been horrific and downwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:44 PM
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Pandora's box has been opened, you can't put the genie back in the bottle etc. This is the world we live in now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:30 PM
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The comment you responded to said that people with more options are less likely to be loyal. And you respond with 20 IQ black and white thinking. You're just butthurt that you're never gonna lock down Chad. Then you respond with some dumb misandry as if women aren't also only as loyal as their options and there aren't horrible stories of women divorcing their whole family or monkey branching. But even humoring your argument, why do you think anyone owes you loyalty? Why do you think you're speci…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:28 PM
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It's pathetic that you have to resort to such hyperbole to make a point. This thread is full of bad faith arguing from people who just want to rationalize bad decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:32 PM
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The millions of stories women post on social media about getting pumped and dumped by a guy she met on a dating app beg to differ. Guys don't get dates from dating apps unless they're well above average looks. The swiping pattern of women on apps is well-established, and women are posting stuff like "where are all the good men at" and "the bar is in hell." This is the evidence that attractive men are not treating them well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:26 PM
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Oh this again. Where a woman argues with a straight face that the guy with 100 women in line waiting to fuck him is somehow going to treat women with more care and appreciation than the guy who is struck by the pure romantic moment of someone treating him better than anybody ever has. The fact that women adamantly argue this is the purest validation of red pill you could ever ask for. Women are not looking for nice and loyal men. The only sin in dating is to be ugly. Use their delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:15 PM
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So we tell you that if you treat good men like crap your whole life you could end up lonely and childless, because we know for a fact we're going to be less attracted to you. You call us assholes and misogynists for giving you good advice. And you want us to have sympathy? Also people do talk about this with sympathy. I can think of some good videos off the top of my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:42 PM
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Complimenting random women is simp behavior. All it does is make her think she's too good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:11 PM
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Haha look at these replies. You basically just asked redditors if they're more compatible with someone who leaves their house or with a homebody. Of course it's option B.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 02:53 PM
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As with all redditors you're being deliberately obtuse on the general rule point. I'll just say this, no one would follow your general rule of drilling down into your specific demographic's statistics and making life choices based on that. Do you think somebody who earns $39k is going to look up these statistics and say fuck me I guess? Again, this is psychotic intersectionalist bullshit to have everyone voluntarily judge and condemn themselves or others based on their race, gender, education, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 02:39 AM
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General rules can't exist because specific situations exist? That's your position? It's a general rule to drive on the right side of the road in my country to avoid accidents. But hey sometimes this doesn't matter because there's no one on the left side, we need to scrap this rule and let people decide for themselves which side to drive on. Also it's only whacko leftists who are hyperfocused on demographic discrimination like this. Normal people just see what everyone around them is doing and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 01:58 AM
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Ok but I was proposing a general rule based on the overall average to change the marriage culture into something healthier. Weird of you to assume that once you drill down into statistics, the risk decreases for everybody. Also weird to assume it's so easy to change socioeconomic things about yourselves. The whole argument reeks of privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 01:29 AM
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No, it doesn't say there's an 80% chance of having a great marriage and kids. It's an 80% chance of not having a divorce. Do you know how many unhappy married couples there are who stay in it for the kids? Thanks for the stats though, optometrists have a low divorce rate so I'm gonna shoot my shot the next time I go for an eye exam
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:51 AM
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In the first sentence you say to pay closer attention to the stats. Then in your next one you say the stats don't matter. You're obviously trying to justify an irrational decision which you're going to make no matter what. Everybody thinks they're an exception until they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:46 AM
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You just said you consider spending 4-7 years with the man who is supposedly the love of your life to be a waste. How is that possible when marriage means spending way more than 4-7 years together? Stop lying and be real, you just want a ring or John Betabux to help you raise kids. This is why men need to be more selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:15 PM
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I believe that in modern times, marriage should be a formality for people who have pretty much already proven they're going to spend the rest of their lives together. Unless you're religious, in which case don't let me tell you what to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 10:43 PM
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40% is the rate for first marriages. The serial offenders drive up the numbers dramatically.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 10:40 PM
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2 years is the current average. If it somehow became the new minimum it might improve the statistics somewhat, but I just don't have much faith in that because it's too close to business as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 10:39 PM
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Interesting, but 20% chance of your life being ruined is still too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 10:38 PM
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Hahaha you can't name a single right you don't have. You're just deflecting and annoying people with homework assignments when you lose. Keep fighting the good fight dumbass feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 07:38 PM
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Holy shit what an insane level of gaslighting. You all defend feminism because you say it's about equal rights. I ask which rights?? Then they say the right to work and own property. Abortion is not an equal right. Men do not have a right to an abortion, and feminists get angry when you suggest men have a right to anything close to an abortion like a paper abortion. If feminism is about equal rights, tell me which rights a man has that a woman does not have.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 07:19 PM
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So why do all of these self-proclaimed feminists become enraged and unattracted when you suggest this? Answer, because feminism is a mountain of lies where the only common factor is to advantage women over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 07:11 PM
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Is that like the complete feminist lie that women could not have jobs or own property before 1960?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 07:09 PM
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You've never heard the term shotgun wedding before, have you? It was never men forcing women to get married, it's always been the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 03:45 PM
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It's always a good idea to invest in yourself, but don't do it for the sake of women. Do it for yourself. Otherwise you're investing huge amounts of time on stuff you probably don't enjoy with the questionable reward of a spoiled, entitled, delusional degenerate who will probably leave you. That's the type of woman money and status attracts. If all you care about in life is fucking, then by all means follow this advice. But I say there's more to life than women, don't live a lie just for them. L…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 12:55 AM
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Heterosexuality doesn't require relationships. Red pill advocates not having relationships, it doesn't advocate not having sex. You make this weird and funny bait and switch from saying red pill claims feminism ruins relationships to saying feminism ruins heterosexuality. These are not the same thing. It's not just red pill claiming this. Reality is too because progressivism correlates with low marriage and fertility rates in countries. This problem will eventually self-correct when feminists ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 09:47 PM
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Finally, someone calling out the fact that whenever you challenge some cringe blue pill take, they later admit to being married for 10+ years and have no idea what's going on with dating right now. It's like boomers telling people to just skip the avocados to save up for a house.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:49 PM
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And I'm saying the majority don't. And most other men will tell you the same. It would be a very bad idea for a woman to think their career is a major selling point in dating. You need something else to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:40 PM
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Oh this again. Because you can find 10-20% of men that like fat chicks, that justifies being fat. You're just looking for reasons to rationalize your life choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:37 PM
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Where's the lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:22 PM
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Men don't lie about their dating preferences, which is what this is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:11 PM
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The #1 thing men need to do is stop simping, and this has nothing to do with whether you're single or not. As long as we have a large percentage of men giving women free validation, attention and money just for being women, their ego and demands are going to be inflated. These are the men ruining it for everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:54 PM
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I think they all know what the obligations are supposed to be. It's just that the feminist mainstream media and simps have all taught them they don't need to have any obligations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:41 PM
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Title was too long, it could have just been "you can never trust a woman" But anyway this isn't as important as you think, women do not have the same sex drive as men. If their sex drive was like men, and some women are like this, they're pretty likely to be disloyal. It's just too easy for them. Besides it's natural to lose passion over time. It's more important to find someone mentally and emotionally stable with good morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 05:42 PM
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Brought to you by the gender that cannot name a single thing when they are asked what their obligations are in a relationship, and in fact becomes enraged by the suggestion that they have an obligation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 04:11 PM
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No one believes you, your flair is "Promiscuous Woman" Your dates are just a cover story for hookups with expenses included, stop lying
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 04:29 AM
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If it was modded by females it would be even worse
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:38 PM
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Why the focus on only on the males? Probably for the same reasons the media focused on women's issues for the past 10+ years and ignored men. This cost the leftists a very consequential election so now the brainwashing has to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 06:58 PM
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Because major reasons a woman chooses a man is because it improves her own social status or tickles her ego. She wants to feel like she caught the most in demand, most attractive guy and being a virgin means a guy probably isn't that. She's not going to brag to her friends that her guy is a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:24 PM
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This depends on which red pill niche you're consuming. F&F and Tate are the most cynical and selfish and say the system is broken and unfixable so just get whatever you can however you can. It's like the world of Mad Max. Trad-cons advocate a return to purity for both men and women and want to fix western society. An example would be the whatever podcast where they frequently feature religious or virgin men. Passport bros advocate dating respectfully and optimistically in a non-western culture. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:07 PM
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Like, be blunt. Should everyone be damned to a miserable, lonely life if they either don't manage to get into a relationship in their 20s or if they lose said relationship one way or another later in life? You're resorting to ridiculous hyperboles and false dilemmas to dodge my point. Nowhere did I say it's impossible and everyone should just give up. I said it gets harder, the value gets lower, people need to make their own decisions on whether it's still worth it. That's reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:40 PM
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Like, what is your view/solution? Everyone should pair up in their twenties and pray that that's it for you Even in the western world, most marriages happen before 30. Outside the western world, women tend to get married before 25. Before all the corporate feminist brainwashing, western women also tended to marry before 25. Holy shit western women have such a fucked up view of relationships now. Anyone can tell you dating gets worse as you get older. Also I love your assumption of divorce. Love …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 05:56 PM
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You don't get it because you're a woman, you're trying to date men and not women, women usually prefer the opposite of men and men and women are very different. The difference here is women age a lot worse than men and past a certain point they bring almost no sexual value to a relationship, which is the primary reason men are even interested in women. Past that point the only reason a man would choose them is because they're lonely, desperate or delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:42 PM
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Some pigs are more equal than others Fuck off with your fake equality
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:48 PM
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I agree. Marriage is a doomed institution. Women aren't attracted to 90% of men, they just use them. The other 10% have no need for marriage because each of them has 9+ women chasing them and are certainly not going to be faithful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:51 PM
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People are already not listening to men. And that's why we're all opting out of relationships and the marriage rate is plummeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:02 PM
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Is that why GenZ is famous for their situationships? Because the 80% of women chasing the top 10% of men have so much leverage?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:00 PM
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I've never had strong feelings on n-count so I can't speak on that. But it's objective fact that women peak around 20 and really start to plummet around 30. So the garden tool phase is a problem. If a 20 year old with a high n-count wanted to settle down with me I'd see that as a fair deal because I'm still getting her best. But no one wants to pay full price for a used car. This is why lots of men are commitment-phobic now and red pill advocates things like plate spinning. We know we're getting…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:46 AM
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You can "protect yourself from male resentment" by not viewing PPD or red pill content. But if you're past your peak then even if you find somebody the plain fact is you did not give him your best, you're basically somebody's leftovers and he knows it. The best thing for a woman to do is lock down a mate ASAP when she's at her peak. Remember that quote "if you can't handle me at my worst then you don't deserve me at my best"? I've got a new one for you: if I never got you at your best then why s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:09 AM
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your lies only further cheapen the concept of love
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:40 PM
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That's the point, women deliberately go to expensive places so they can meet expensive men Then they find out they can't really afford expensive men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:36 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eqDYcS0jUs tl;dw man hits on woman at gym with a fairly mild comment, she complains to gym management, confronts him on camera, and then identifies him and goes to his workplace and complains to his supervisor. This is why you can't have nice things
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 05:11 PM
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The mainstream media becoming irrelevant was one of the biggest stories of the 2024 election. Some even started calling it the podcast election, and it was mainly manosphere podcasts that landed the big interviews. You're just not paying attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:48 PM
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Just do a search on any major platform. Every single result will be some mainstream source smearing and denigrating red pill without ever even providing a fair definition of what it is. It is absolute insidious censorship and propaganda and people saw through it and these tactics are a major reason Trump won.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:04 PM
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Trump's campaign messaged better to men by going on manosphere podcasts like Joe Rogan and many others where they primarily talked the economy and immigration. It wasn't because of MRA that's a fringe group.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:49 PM
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Nuking the entire DEI industry is probably one of the most pro-male policies ever enacted. One of the primary goals of that was to hire women over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:46 PM
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This is just a leftist take on right wing policies. If you're not prioritizing your pet interest groups above all budgetary and logical constraints, you don't care about them. And it's pretty deranged to think that gender wars is the highest priority of anyone outside of PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:32 PM
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Hold up. For that to be true you're assuming this war would be fought mostly by red pill men. You think a war fought by a red pill army would result in a settlement favorable to women? in today's political climate? 🤣 Do you even know what wars do? We've reached a new level of female delusion where women benefit from violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:21 PM
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Imagine if this statement was flipped to one of the left's pet groups like LGBT or minorities Insta ban from reddit Don't pretend you're any better than MAGA
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:39 PM
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So does that mean you're okay with men lying and cheating to these women? Afterall you're just prioritizing your self interests. Do they deserve any better when they're just using you and they have it so easy in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:21 PM
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Yup, I've completely stopped putting any time and effort into trying to meet women. They don't want to meet you unless you're extremely attractive, which means either way you're wasting your time. If you're extremely attractive they'll come to you, if you're not then they avoid you like the plague. And even if you get a woman they're likely going to be some entitled mental case who will get bored and cheat on you. Any time I would have spent on meeting women I now spend on investing in myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:12 PM
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Did you miss the rug pull where feminism stopped being about equality and now all they talk about is equity?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:49 PM
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The only way anyone would be comfortable with that is if the relationship weren't lopsided. No, that's not the only way. Some men like to feel needed and helpful, and like to provide. Some men don't need to combine their resources with a woman or get advice from a woman and are able to navigate life just fine but just want some companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:29 PM
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This thread was all about the cause and effect of why attractive men are able to act like assholes, and somehow you missed it. You must be pretty determined to rationalize your poor choices
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 08:32 PM
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I'm sorry but I can't take it seriously when the premier man-hater on PPD tells us don't worry this is actually not just hate. The part about video games is hilarious because online games are probably one of the easiest ways to make friends or socialize. As for the whole just get a hobby or go to a meetup. This is just a massive oversimplification. Just because you have a hobby in common does not mean you have enough in common to be close friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 07:22 PM
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When somebody is drowning, if you go in to rescue them they'll just drag you down with them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 08:55 PM
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This is why when women say "the bar is in hell" the manosphere says sit back and watch them burn. Hell is punishment for your bad choices in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 08:54 PM
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They're right though. The bar is in hell because they're the ones who set the bar. So when women say this they're actually just criticizing themselves. Women all throw themselves at top men, and with that amount of options you have no consequences for actions. You can treat women like dirt because they literally are as cheap and free as dirt to you. Consequences of your own actions, poetic justice, whatever you want to call it - enjoy living in the hell of your own making.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:24 PM
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Ok but in that case you're cobbling together pieces of different individual's worst habits into the hypothetical worst possible man. Anyone can go and find bad examples of the opposite sex. Why should anyone care about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:49 AM
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Uhhh... This is all oddly specific. For some of these, it's likely the wife actually provoked it by asking trick questions because like most women she's insecure and anxious. Men have this unfortunate tendency to answer honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:05 AM
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Actually that's more like covert prostitution since you're assuming contractual terms on sex. Also please stop "emotionally manipulating" me to have sympathy for women who got played, you're a monster.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 05:09 AM
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Taking away one of the main reasons men get into relationships is not a recipe for relationship success. But most women can't cook these days either so what do they know about recipes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 02:59 PM
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No, I'm pretty sure the knowledge in other disciplines applies to women too. What you just described is radicalization which has clearly happened to you. Women's studies teaches women to hate men for oppression which is a bitter way of saying men have accomplished more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 11:21 PM
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Misogyny is just optics too, so there's nothing wrong with that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 11:16 PM
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Culturally it would mean that not every major media network has regular sections and PSAs on female empowerment and nothing for men. Masculinity would still be glorified in movies and men wouldn't be expected to submit to women in every media depiction. Systemically it would mean somebody would actually care that females are overrepresented by lopsided margins in education and stop pretending women are being discriminated against. We could look at our degrees and ask why women's studies exists b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 10:28 PM
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Red pill accepts that it cannot change human nature and societal trends but you can change yourself to deal with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:43 PM
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The red pill applies to women too. Being unattractive is a problem for women too, and just making yourself more available means guys will treat them as side chicks rather than a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 07:59 PM
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I hate to break it to you, but attractive women have no trouble making an interaction happen if they're attracted to a man. So if you're worried about harassment allegations and so on, it's because you're forcing interactions because women aren't attracted to you and they're trying to avoid you. The red pill is hard to swallow but you need to take your medicine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 07:51 PM
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Oh, FFS. The point of fat positivity isn't to encourage women to be fat, it's to encourage fat women not to hate themselves If you don't dislike something about yourself, why would you change it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:15 AM
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If somebody is making more sacrifices, that could be because they want you more than you want them. That is not an ideal situation. If both aren't making sacrifices for the relationship, it means somebody isn't really attracted and committed to the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 08:06 PM
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Funny how you immediately accuse me of being disingenuous for no reason. It must be because I'm a man. If I wasn't being discriminated against, I would have won this argument easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 07:56 PM
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You are sitting at home tapping buttons with no one in sight. How are they being held back?? Men get harassed (trash talked) in video games all the time too. If you can't take it, that's just another shortcoming on your part. Emotional toughness is as much a factor in success as intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:47 PM
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So happy you feel the need to come on to dating-related subreddits and troll?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 08:16 PM
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What a load of wild, bitter cooked up bullshit. You can't point to any specific examples of this happening. You're just taking abstract red pill theories about the problems with the dating scene and acting like it was meant to be applied to successful relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:18 PM
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Wow, they actually put anti-male bigotry in writing. This is one for the history books. Women are quickly losing all standing to complain about things that were said about them 200 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 04:07 PM
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Idiosyncrasy means outlier by definition. So you're admitting you're wrong in the majority of cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:49 PM
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Mid, fat, slovenly, whatever. If you're not hot they don't want to talk to you and at best you're fighting an uphill battle and at worst they try to cancel you somehow. Meanwhile the hot dude can be kind of a douche and there'll always be another woman throwing herself at him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:47 PM
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Yeah, one line at the very end of the post like fine print disclaimer. I think the title is what people pay attention to. You are right though, acting right around women isn't easy either. You might do something terrible like show an emotion and completely turn them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 05:57 PM
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This right here is why the red pill exists, people keep saying stuff like this and giving false hope to ugly guys. If you don't clear the looks bar you don't even get in the door. You don't even get a chance to prove yourself. Therefore looks is the most important. Looking good is a lot harder than acting good.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:48 PM
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What social media? Instagram? If a man is spending a lot of time on Instagram you probably don't want him. It's women who spend the most time on IG and compare themselves to each other, causing insecurity. Have you been spending a lot of time on IG?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:32 AM
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This is another example of a woman trying to sabotage other women with bad dating advice. It's so fucked. The real advice is that men want to feel needed, wanted, appreciated and validated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:17 PM
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assumed she just didn’t hookup and needed exclusivity. All those women were all liars, they had 1-2 other men they were fkn and I was a backup. Felt like such a schmuck once I found out. We are so fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 04:25 PM
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That's not how any of this works You can talk to 10 million women but if you're a mumbling buffoon with bad breath there's zero perfect matches for you Thinking if you just keep moving onto the next lottery ticket you'll score the jackpot is why dating is terrible now
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:29 AM
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You're assuming they want to meet you though This isn't like scratching off lottery tickets
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:01 AM
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If your looks bar filters out 80% of the dating pool, the rest of your wish list doesn't matter. For most people, your dating budget has essentially all been put into looks and that's all you can expect to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 01:03 AM
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No, more like annoyed by them because they keep trying to psychoanalyze me in their feminist pop psychology. Career women are weak and no real threat to me unless her career is bodybuilder or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:10 PM
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Because I am able to provide and don't need their money, it's traditionally expected of men, and I want to do it for someone who treats me right. Men and women have jobs in relationships and fulfill those is way more important to relationship success than climbing a corporate career path. Career path is mostly irrelevant to whether we get along, if anything it will create tension and more demands.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:03 PM
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Actually there's a few jobs that make a woman more attractive to me because it shows she has a good heart or she can take care of me (or the kids). Nurse, doctor, teacher. Also if her job aligns with my hobbies somehow that would be cool. I don't care if she's unemployed because I'm looking to hire a housewife so it's convenient. If she's unemployed because she's super lazy and useless and can't cook or clean then it's an issue but I'm not going to immediately write them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:53 PM
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No, it's a mindset that women should have an ounce of responsibility shown to their partner, something unthinkable today. Also I just got whiplash because in your previous post you were crying about men breaking up with women for letting themselves go, now you're saying women shouldn't depend on being in love. So why is it a problem if you get dumped?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 07:20 PM
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As the poster explained that cuts both ways. They're showing they don't care about their partner by letting themselves go. Besides if you let yourself go once you've locked somebody down it shows you're ugly on the inside too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:39 PM
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If it's gotten to the point where your partner has to urge you to lose weight, you messed up. The next step isn't me going to the gym with you, it's me breaking up with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:33 PM
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Fundamentally, the Red Pill tells you that if you are "low value", your situation is irretrievable. You will always struggle to find a partner and when you do, they will always be tempted to run off with Chad. Another person who doesn't know what the red pill actually says, making something up to demonize the red pill You are describing black pill, not red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 07:55 PM
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actual sex with an attractive woman who wants them passionately and enthusiastically Because that would be enough for most men when it comes to sex. Being wanted passionately is lust, not romance. Romance for men is more about a woman who is trustworthy and that doesn't have much to do with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 08:32 PM
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Men could seek out prostitutes if they wanted meaningless sex. Most don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 08:12 PM
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So you don't want guys who value clear communication and expectations? Sounds like the average woman to me
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 07:10 PM
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Hah, just ask, spoken like somebody who doesn't have to pick up women. Yeah just slide in off-putting questions to somebody who's already hypercritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 06:18 PM
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Once again women expect us to be mind readers and "just go for women who don't expect them to pay" as if we can know this up front. The whole point of dating is to get to know what kind of person they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:23 PM
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People pleasing is women putting their needs first. Most women get all their validation and satisfaction in life from the opinions of others so it's only natural they focus on others and people please. It's essential to female mental stability. Instagram is the proof of this. Also women and girls are not "taught" to do this. That's just standard Marxist ideology where there's no such thing as human nature. Feminists and leftists have been trying since Marx to teach people to do things against th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 03:59 PM
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Somebody with liberal guilt who's terrified of being called a misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 10:55 PM
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Yes it's equality in action. Men don't have the right to choose an abortion but women do, so if you take away that right then men and women are equal. And yet equality-loving feminists have an issue with this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 07:13 PM
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Criminal philosophies This is what you lefties call "saying the quiet part out loud." Thanks for admitting you believe in thought crime. Which books we banning today? Might I suggest 1984? It's about as inconvenient for you as red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:05 PM
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It's only a fringe movement on reddit. And only because it was banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:01 PM
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https://x.com/I_Katchanovski/status/1860174071004299485 Shut up like this guy? Walking his dog and working a normal job one day, beaten up thrown into a car and sent to die in a meatgrinder the next. The US has the same law as this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:51 PM
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This isn't about the right to abortion. It's saying if abortion is a woman's right and the man has no choice or rights in the matter, then in current law he has to suffer the consequences of the woman's choice. The proposal is for the right of the father to legally abandon the child and not be coerced to pay child support by the state. If women want to be the sole decider for whether a baby is born, then they can be solely responsible for that baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:24 PM
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The difference is nowadays there's no appreciation if you do it willingly either. The mainstream has been working very hard to raise the bar for men and lower it for women. Fuck their bar. Looks like the world is gonna get more dangerous women, it's equality at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:08 PM
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Maybe we should go back to the days when men were appreciated then
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:51 PM
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Period, no debating that one. lmao. Sir this is purple pill debate, if you don't want to debate you can leave. Every man has to register for the draft and women don't. And even if you don't earn money by doing a dangerous job, the onus is still put on men and not women. Scary noises at 2am? Up to the man to investigate. Big heavy thing needs to be moved? Up to the man to risk his back.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:41 PM
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Is this just a desperate attempt to shut down the argument, or are you seriously proposing people should have different rights based on what job they hold? Sounds very dystopian, but we do live in an oligarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:24 PM
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No, we can consider it in states where abortion is legal. Just because you're big mad doesn't mean you get to have your own logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:27 PM
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Men do all the dangerous physical jobs because of our differing biology. But when the biological difference doesn't favor women, suddenly we want "equality" whatever that means. Men and women have different roles and responsibilities based on their biology. Then the law comes in and artificially tilts things in favor of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:13 PM
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Another person who has no idea what the red pill is, because it's censored in the mainstream There's nothing inhumane or immoral about telling men to make themselves more physically attractive, make more money, get more friends
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:12 PM
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Changed the game? More like game over, man. I'm just over 40 too and the chances of me landing a woman I'd actually want to be with for the rest of my life are negligible. This acceptance is saving me so much time, money and aggravation. Now I just put my time and energy into things I enjoy in life and stop worrying about jumping through hoops just to try and get the attention of somebody who's probably also got 7 other dudes on the line and will probably just ruin my life anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:59 PM
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The last time a bum asked you for money, were you impressed by his balls or did you try to avoid contact at all costs?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:39 PM
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and speak for all mankind and say a nice rack is a nice-to-have but not a must-have. It can definitely get some attention and cover for some other faults. I'm not sure a woman could even be a true 10 without one. As for size a D cup definitely qualifies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:25 AM
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As if things aren't bad enough for men in dating, now we have people coming and posting threads just to tell us to shut up and go away
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:59 PM
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Many anime characters have candy-colored hair Anime characters are all 20 or younger, don't need upkeep and hair like theirs would cost at least $500 per appointment in the real world. if you're over 30 and still dying your hair blue, it's not a good look for you. 20 year old women in good shape can make anything look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:19 PM
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Personally I would definitely prefer a "late bloomer" woman to a "washed up" woman. I'm not sure your definition really meets late bloomer (4 boyfriends??) though. Late bloomer women don't have emotional baggage from failed relationships. By strict red pill ideology, they are likely not "alpha widows." Therefore a relationship with one is much more likely to be enjoyable. For example they could bring more of a fresh and innocent spirit to a relationship. They have the same problem as all post-wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:11 AM
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This is just another example of how feminism stopped being about women's rights long ago and is now just about hating men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 11:33 PM
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This is a big step up from OnlyFans prostitutes and Instagram "influencers" who are now the role models of young women At least she's creating something of value by cooking
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 11:32 PM
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Make shame great again Shame is the first line of defense against bad behavior Also fuck the totally biased example you used I'm not responding to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 11:31 PM
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Look at this sub, no one can even defend this anymore. It's beating a dead horse. This is why the Republicans won.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:35 PM
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C- this is a terrible hypothetical and judgment cannot be passed without a lot more context.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:33 PM
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Where's the effort? Want to show me some pics of all those deer gyms and their progress photos? Or are you just referring to the simple act of beating up another buck and taking his wife? That's like a couple of hours of effort, max. It sounds like animals have a way lower bar for effort than humans do. So you're cherry picking mating dances which applies to birds and not mammals and trying to ignore the bad stuff. These are just weird analogies with low relevance to humans. Birds just fly away …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:53 PM
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Omg I can't believe you're doubling down on this. It's not about effort in the animal kingdom it's about physical force - simple and effective, but also brutal. It also doesn't translate to humans. Pulling a trigger doesn't take a lot of effort. You can't "force" a woman to like you, that's also why it doesn't translate, look at the thread title ffs. You are putting in effort just to meet somebody's arbitrary and subjective bullshit standards versus the objective standard of violence. You can pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:15 PM
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In the animal kingdom, the alpha literally just scares, maims or even kills the little guys and just takes the womens he wants. The females have no say in it. Is that the paradigm you are advocating? It's a lot less complicated than human dating, I'll give you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:54 PM
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Because dating is way worse than it was in 2012. Women's standards for men kept going up while standards for themselves kept going down. Social media acid has also had a lot more time to eat into societal foundations. Now more and more men are recognizing women are not worth the effort. And red pill is a lot of effort. Why chase after entitled piggies like it's a full time job when you can just stay home and play video games and jerk off? May as well just hold out for better AI girlfriends and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:50 PM
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The red pill for women is recognizing their fantasy man doesn't exist, everything doesn't happen for a reason, and it won't happen when you're least expecting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:35 PM
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thanks grandpa
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:35 PM
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Wait I thought red pill was just about hating women and being an asshole? CNN told me so!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 03:55 PM
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Thank you for proving my point by listing all the delusional bullshit and lies that leftist women constantly spout
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:35 AM
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Conservative women are more attractive by a mile Leftist women are the ones who go for the blue hair, cat eye glasses, and look like they haven't seen the Sun or the gym since Obama left office. And when you get to personality, conservative women are only hotter because they're on the side that doesn't hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:59 AM
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This is both "all women are bad" bigotry and a race to the bottom dynamic. Being bad isn't going to make women better, you're just going to ruin more women. Learn how to test women instead. If she fucks on the first date, she's for the streets. If she doesn't offer to split, she just showed she has no morals. Actually ask her questions about what she brings to the relationship instead of making dumb chit-chat on dates. You can say this is too much effort to find 1 good woman out of 100 bad, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:59 PM
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Why does the left think they can solve everything by astroturfing with their corporate backing and pandering to different demographic groups? We need our own Joe Rogan, we need our own Andrew Tate, White Dudes for Harris is the ticket, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:59 PM
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"Women have flaws." And then in your next sentence you say the flaw is "wanting to be treated as an equal." Why do you ask men to forgive your flaws when you refuse to even acknowledge them? Harvey Weinstein has flaws too. Saying "I have flaws" is somehow not good enough to excuse bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:18 PM
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There weren't arranged marriages in the West. In small communities everybody just knows each other so there's no approach anxiety. And there weren't a lot of options like we have now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:38 PM
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Women don't want equality. You only say you want it because women are terrified of being politically incorrect. Women want men to make lots of money, pay for everything, take the lead on everything, be emotionally rock solid, all standards they don't hold themselves to. In fact, most women find it hot when a man "puts them in their place" and this is a very common shit test. There's a whole brat kink where women intentionally act up to force their man to subjugate them. And female fantasies get …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:36 PM
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Intersectionalism started as a feminist line of thought that tried to explore oppression of females along lines of minority groups like race. Many now see this as the driving force of the Democratic Party and a better way of saying "woke." I won't argue with socialism because I consider myself economically left and culturally right. I'm another product of the Bernie to Trump pipeline like Joe Rogan and so many others.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:41 PM
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Because people are looking at the personal preferences of certain "famous" red pill individuals and deciding it is core red pill philosophy. Red pill is a dating strategy and has nothing to do with kink.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:40 PM
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I see that you're blaming #MeToo so you can dodge responsibility for the true culprit, intersectionalism. This started as a feminist theory but has quickly taken over the cultural left. You're probably blind to this because you're part of the cultural left. So let me make this clear to you. This type of thinking where you reduce everything about a person to their race, gender, and sexual orientation is a dead end in America. America has always been about individual merit. Until Democrats get thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:38 PM
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Oh no, when minimum wage laws are respected and real American workers have rights that can't be blackmailed away with deportation threats, prices go up. What the hell happened to the Democratic Party? Still wondering why everyone making less than $100K abandoned you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:50 PM
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That's crazy that you would look at my detailed post and assume I am uninformed. Just another case of an elitist snob leftist who lost because the American people are stupid, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:40 PM
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Ok here's a start, maybe it could be done in the next 4 years: Cracking down on illegal immigration that is replacing American workers with below minimum wage migrants Impose tariffs on countries with unfair labor competition Making overtime pay tax exempt Withholding federal funds from universities that are indoctrinating far-left ideas Sound familiar?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 04:48 PM
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Match purposefully destroyed OKCupid because it was too good, so I don't think they're going to bring it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 04:44 PM
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Sounds like Swedish men are smart. Stop paying for their drinks. PUA is dead and red pill / MGTOW killed it, ain't nobody got time for that. Focus on building yourself up and let women chase you. You can't convince someone to be attracted to you, it's better to just be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 01:48 PM
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This is the feminist paradox of consent in action Women want men to initiate everything including affection and insist "yes means yes." But if you first seek verbal consent with a real woman, it's unsexy and effeminate and icky and she loses interest in you Proving once again you should ignore what women say and watch what they do. Even the video proves this because the woman is unable to use her words.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:46 PM
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Some women become pickier as they age, but others become more desperate as their attractiveness and fertility disappears. It's also true that the older someone is, the more opportunity they've had to be taken off the market. The remaining single older women are more likely to have unrealistic standards, mental issues, or are just unattractive. Older women are also a lot more likely to have kids, meaning they have no ability to invest in other relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:36 AM
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Where in the marriage vow does it say "to fuck only you"? Nice study of people who "admitted to cheating" which only 13% of women did so. So you reinforced my point that women lie more than men, because that number is obviously too low.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:27 AM
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Well you see we used to have this thing called religion. That's where the marriage vow came from and there were supposed to be spiritual benefits. Now all we have is girl bosses who are slaves to societal expectations and chase life milestones like Steam achievements. They're terrified of being the last one in their group of girlies to not catch the Pokemon. They don't really care what happens to the Pokemon after they catch it, they just want to be able to say they did. The problem with being a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:58 AM
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so the game you're playing here is women good men stink? Regardless of whether it's on topic or not? and this was the best you could get? you seem awfully desperate for any kind of W
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:32 AM
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where in my post did I say anything about being "logical" you are arguing with yourself and that's weird
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:17 AM
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For the same reason that the toughest fields are male-dominated. Men have a greater capacity to endure suffering. It's a basic expectation society puts on men. Also part of the masculine code is to honor your word. I might as well ask you why say "till death do us part" if you're thinking all along I'll just divorce him if things get rough? Shouldn't it be "'till you stop doing the chores?"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:11 AM
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Realistically, it's not going to be solved in a healthy way. Our society is way too stupid to handle a problem of this magnitude. The "solution" will be AI girlfriends and sex bots. It's already happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:35 PM
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You left something out of the definition of a "dream woman": she's into you. Gold diggers are not, they're only into your money. Trad wives want a husband/wife relationship and a family with you, gold diggers just want money. I would recommend not marrying someone who isn't attracted to you. Red pill is about how to make men more attractive so you don't have this problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:41 PM
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If women don't find any romantic prospects intimidating, why aren't women the ones doing the approaching?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:52 PM
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MGTOW hype train? This is funny because whenever I went out to activity groups or meetups there were no young single women, it was all old people. So I've given up and don't waste my time anymore. Women don't like being hit on so they avoid places men go to meet women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 11:14 PM
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If you're a man who died for loyalty, you wouldn't really be able to post about it here would you? I am so lucky that my opponents are this dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 04:05 PM
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What's the difference between cold approach and speed dating? At speed dating events you have to pay, and then you have to talk to a whole bunch of women you don't find attractive. And then you get rejected anyway. The sick thing about OLD and speed dating is a lot of women are only there for validation and have no intention of actually dating. With cold approach, at least you're shooting your shot with a woman you'd actually want to be with. And you're not paying to be rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 03:49 PM
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It's practically the only thing y'all value, to the point of finding it necessary to constantly attack and deride any and all women with the audacity to not drop dead the second their age starts with a 3 or higher Don't tell me what I value. And don't lecture men about loyalty. Men die for loyalty. But they do it for people loyal to them, who are literally in the trenches with them. Someone who would carry you out of a killing field if they had to. And men know that women wouldn't risk anything …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 03:42 PM
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Oh wow you're exposing red pill bullshit, what a girl boss, want me to clap? You're not criticizing, you're observing the truth of their nature. I love it. So if I make some observations about the truth of your nature, want to tell me if it feels like criticism? Observation #1, you were high when you wrote this. Youth is not a fetish. It's natural to value it, and the reason nature makes us value it is because people age out of fertility. The only thing you've "exposed" is how desperate and angr…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 02:04 PM
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Oh god this post is such a mess. It's all just pointless deflection and hate. Red pill is a dating strategy for men. Why would it criticize men? It actually does criticize men, but mainly to say they're too ugly or too poor to get dates. As for younger women being better relationship material, all I gotta say is: why build something with an ugly (and most likely bitter) old hag when you could build something with a hot young thing instead? I will agree though. Most young women don't play their c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:06 AM
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Person fails to see the value in exchanging ideas or open public debates, nothing to see here Also who here is coming to vent about how their mom treats them? If that's happening I'd like a link to that post because that's hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 02:32 AM
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Women have always been able to have jobs. Here's a hint, until the 20th century the most common job for both men and women was "farmer." In the western world, arranged marriages were only ever a thing among the European aristocracy and feminism had nothing to do with its demise. If anything, men were more often victims of being forced into marriage. Look up "shotgun wedding." Nowadays shotgun weddings are done by the government and we call it child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:28 PM
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Wait, what privileges have men lost? Are feminists coming from for my driver's license next?? Or are you referring to the discriminatory DEI hiring practices?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:09 PM
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Wait, I thought it was about "equity" now? Every man with a brain has figured out by now that "equality" is just feminism's bait and switch. It offers nothing positive to men, it's only about taking from men. If you want equality go find yourself a feminine male who is equally unable to open a jar.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 08:53 PM
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Older women who are still in the dating pool are usually independent strong woman types. By necessity they've learned to fill the roles their husband would have if they had one. They've left no room in their life for a man. Masculine men who want to protect and provide don't like feeling unnecessary. You can't fill that role if the woman doesn't need any protection or provision. So they are naturally drawn to younger women who need their protection, money, guidance etc. a lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 08:11 PM
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Reason being. because I will eventually grow old, and as I am getting older, I know his preference for younger women will stay the same, and he will always have a wondering eye for younger women. It's not the same. At the point you're getting old, you'll have been together for 10+ years. If you're a good wife, you've built something valuable in that time and that creates loyalty. For example, children. People keep forgetting that dating is much about reproduction and finding someone you want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:52 PM
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Your standards are low because that's the only way you can get interest from studs. It's the laws of supply and demand at work. If you raise your standards (costs), they'll just find someone better and you'll get no "dates" (hookups) at all. If you were actually a 10, you wouldn't need to compensate with low standards. The woman in that video is a 6 at best. Who is she to be making demands?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 04:37 PM
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Yeah I won't lie I'd fall into the same trap, but to be fair I don't face the same consequences as women. I can't get pregnant, my reputation doesn't take a hit if I bang lots of hot women, I'm better at emotional detachment and mental health, men's attractiveness and fertility doesn't fall off as fast and hard as women's. That said I think the ideal scenario is you find the best person for you as early as possible and keep them. Sex isn't actually the only thing men want, it's a lot harder to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:03 AM
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"A lot of the things" -> you named one thing, loneliness or lack of friends. The feminist mainstream media beating down men for at least a decade, the horribly unequal economy, DEI putting men at the back of the line for jobs, social media and dating apps ruining dating. How is an individual man or small group of men supposed to fix these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:23 PM
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You have an incomplete understanding of red pill philosophy. This is mainly an issue for women who marry studs and think they can keep him loyal when they have lots of women under 30 throwing themselves at him. Red pill also has the "alpha fucks, beta buxx" saying which is that in modern dating, average men end up with the alpha's leftovers which is older women who have aged out of the hookup culture you referenced of just banging hot guys while you can. Eventually the hot guys won't even want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:56 PM
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You're the one trying to "silence voices" and hide the truth by casually throwing around labels and insults like "misogyny" instead of dealing with evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 05:39 PM
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It's okay, even Kamala Harris said you should lie to your spouse about who you voted for
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:53 PM
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Spoken like somebody whose wife is getting fucked by another man
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:10 PM
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Is it possible that there are good men and bad men and they're just trying to exclude the bad men from their community or is that not black and white enough for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:04 PM
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Yes but... It depends on whether the man actually emotionally invested himself into those relationships. Men are better at compartmentalizing than women are. And tbh a lot of guys are just using women for sex and don't care if it goes sideways. I'd say more controversially that men are more emotionally durable than women as well. They will look at things more rationally and this will keep their emotions in check. Women let their insecurities and emotions run wild and run them over.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:00 PM
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Extensive past = extensive liking for others One acted on it, the other did not
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 11:45 PM
2

I gave 2 counter-examples which clearly met your definition but were nonetheless exploitation. In response you said it's not exploitation because they're stupid. You are literally calling people stupid as if that's a serious argument. Ok let's accept that they're stupid. You are now saying stupid people can't be exploited. You realize mentally disabled people actually exist, right? Do you deny that a lot of OF buyers are literally mentally disabled or low IQ individuals? And you're still okay wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 07:50 PM
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Nah that's not the funny part, the funny is all the older women are so jealous, butthurt and unattractive they started citing neurology journals to make men date them 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 07:30 PM
1

No, the stupidity in this situation is you repeating your trash and disproven definition of exploitation that you couldn't defend the first two times I debunked it. I'm not going to try again because you're probably some kind of chat bot, good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 07:14 PM
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And according to women, women's brains aren't fully developed until they're 25, so dating an under 25 makes you a pedo. So women under 25 should not be allowed to drive, vote, take out lines of credit, own guns etc. because they aren't fully mature yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 07:05 PM
2

Holy shit you are setting such a terrible definition for "exploit." So if you go to an auto mechanic and they charge you for all kinds of work you didn't need, is that totally cool and you're just an idiot for paying for it because you don't know anything about cars? It's not even a legal term I don't know why you're suddenly setting a high bar. Oh wait I do know why, it's because men are the primary victims here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:31 PM
2

A lot of OF pages are initially free now so they can get men hooked.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:15 PM
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I gave several such examples of deception in the post. But it seems like most replies here are ignorant of the basic concept of OF and how it differentiates itself from porn. It's not just "buying porn." It's buying "access" to a person (you're probably not even getting that person) who then leads you on and acts like they're into you, so they can milk more money out of you. Are you saying you're okay with that? Explain to me how it is different from a romance scammer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:02 PM
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Our society puts warning labels on cigarette boxes and plastic bags alike. Why is it when men are the target it's fine to say they're idiots and leave it at that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:00 PM
0

Okay, and when someone sends $10,000 to somebody in Nigeria they did so willingly as well. If you think it's that simple you've never watched a documentary about OF. As stated there's usually a lot of deception involved. Go on any online dating app or even some r4r subreddit and it's overrun with OF scammers pretending to be someone looking for love.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:23 PM
2

Red pill doesn't say cheating is okay, but it acknowledges highly attractive men will cheat because they have so much opportunity with every woman throwing themselves at him. This is simply the devil's bargain of being with a top value man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:58 PM
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It's not society or accomplishment. Most people have a need to have some purpose in their life, and this is one that lines up best with biological impulses and differences. Some guys can find accomplishment and purpose in business or sports or war but that's a lot harder and riskier and even most of those guys will want a family too. Also there is an ego element to be the provider rather than the dependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:17 AM
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Many if not most men find purpose in life by providing for their family, and in most cases their wife is not perfect. They're just not allowed to say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 01:51 AM
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do men ever consider paying me mind as a mean of investing? Most guys, regardless of pill color, will tell you not to do this. Women are well-known for trading up ("monkey branching") as soon as that's a possibility for them. There is no loyalty or return on investment. The other way it ends is the woman fails to meet her goals, remains unhealthy and unattractive, and then publicly blasts the man for body shaming her and preying on her insecurities. It's a lose/lose situation for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 07:33 PM
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My initial thought when a woman approaches me is wow this is weird. The last few who did so weren't even unattractive, I think something just got into their head and I'm still not sure what it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 05:31 PM
5

Well well well, if it isn't the consequences of your own actions
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:12 PM
3

I like how this is a post for r/askwomen but you can't ask it there because they're all unhinged man-hating psychos
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 09:20 PM
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At my age (40) I see the writing on the wall and would just try to get the best woman I can, one where I won't see a better looking woman every day and have regrets. So probably a woman half my age lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 06:59 PM
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OP, meet Bill Belichick's new girlfriend, 23 year old former cheerleader Jordon Hudson. https://pagesix.com/2024/10/07/celebrity-news/bill-belichicks-girlfriend-jordon-hudson-shares-summer-photos/ Not bad for an overweight 72 year old raisin. So you're arguing these two would have got together even if he wasn't a legendary NFL coach?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 12:11 AM
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Your checklist is so hilariously unrealistic. Point #1 and #2 got you to the top 1% of men, not the top 20%. Add in #3 and we're talking like 0.1% of men. So you're saying 99.9% of women should be single childless cat ladies. This is the future liberals want? You should probably change your post title to reflect the reality of what you're promoting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 08:43 PM
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Why do you think pro basketball players are different than other high status men? They're not working their asses off so they can tie themselves down with one curvy passenger princess and take care of her crying babies. In fact most high status men can fool around with top 20% women without having to offer any commitment either. Keep dreaming. Maybe one day you'll be his baby momma.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:36 PM
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Well firstly polygamy is not currently the dominant paradigm in long term relationships. Most women don't want to be a side piece, women put a lot of their pride and social status into their relationship. High status men are surely doing the best in hookup culture though. And as for why lonely and unhappy men aren't creating chaos, you have a lot of things to thank for that. Porn, video games, drugs, and suicide. They're not all just arguing on r/purplepilldebate. I was talking about what happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:39 PM
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But the natural order also forced women to find a man because women were not able to protect and provide for themselves. Nowadays society pays men to protect them, they can pay a man to fix their toilet, men have killed all the big scary animals in their area etc. And the natural order forced men at the top to not be greedy because the men at the bottom who greatly outnumber them would simply kill them and take their women. That's what happens with most mammals.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:10 PM
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This is a forum for debates about gender. If posts were censored for misandry or misogyny, the forum could not function and would be totally boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:04 PM
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So like the NBA groupies who try to baby trap pro basketball players? This sounds like a good way to create a lot of lonely single moms who subsequently become undateable to all men, not just the ones in the top 20%. You know how many news stories I read every month about single moms killing their children then themselves? It's very sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:54 PM
4

Men, how would you react in a situation where you are extremely biased?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 04:39 PM
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Yes there is something more going on. Dating apps and social media have completely changed the game in so many ways. The internet and covid made people more socially disconnected - third spaces are dying as people spend more time online, meaning less in person interaction. Feminism and #MeToo demonized and shamed men - women made it known through the internet they don't want to be bothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:59 PM
2

Men aren't worried about what older single mothers want
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:45 PM
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(no response)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:13 PM
2

I won't wave back
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:04 PM
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Women train men to lie to them, because most women's mental health is so poor that if one person doesn't feed their narcissism they have a mental breakdown. This causes men to lose all respect for women and just treat them as a necessary evil due to our biological curse. It's impossible to have a genuine relationship with someone who demands you lie to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:32 PM
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I said don't assume I will ask them for a date. First I have to figure out whether they are crazy or have a boyfriend, whether she seems interested and we vibe together. If you want to say having conversations with strangers is all a waste of time go ahead, that makes you the antisocial one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 12:43 AM
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Nice work on confirming like half of red pill ideology, while at the same time professing sexism and bigotry. First you subconsciously revealed your bias against 90% of men, giving a pass to only 10%, probably the top 10%. Second you condemned an entire gender as prone to sexual assault and violence. What if we replaced that gender with a race? You could easily lose your job for that if you were a public figure. Leftists think they get a pass on bigotry because they're the only ones crying for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:09 PM
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Of course. Men don't act like complete schizos when someone talks to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:05 PM
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Why are you assuming I'm even going to ask them for a date? What do you think the point of conversation is?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:35 PM
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The difference is that they did something to deserve it, something a doormat who simps for women on here all the time wouldn't understand
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:34 PM
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Like straight up ignoring you when you speak to them and walking away. Most of the time you will be brushed off like an annoying fly. They aren't kidding when they say they consider men to be lower than animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:35 PM
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Women treat 90% of men like literal garbage if they try to talk to them. It's like all this princess/queen crap has gone to their heads and they actually think they're aristocrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:00 PM
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Maybe you should change your flair to woman
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:54 PM
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Looks like you're going to need a bar for your IQ that's even easier than the one for your BMI
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:50 PM
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Okay make sure to avoid living in places where the average BMI is under 30 or no man will ever be tempted by you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:24 PM
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I am also in a B-tier city and this seems true to me, too. Mostly old people dominating all the activities. If I go to the nearby A-tier city, there's tons of young women around. It seems they just flock to some idea of a glamorous city lifestyle where they can meet the high-powered businessman of their dreams.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:45 AM
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"Always"? So men are responsible for all chores? Thanks for revealing your very reasonable expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:30 PM
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Right, because the gender used to doing everything including making the proposal would suddenly choose to take a backseat on that issue for no significant reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 08:06 PM
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Whenever a woman asks for commitment, bring up the statistic that women initiate most divorces
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:34 PM
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Sex is an activity
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:32 AM
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This just shows how hard men have it in dating and the explanations being posted only amplify this. You can be a great guy in most respects but any flaw you have will be picked apart by women. Meanwhile the overweight tattooed single moms (oops, I'm sorry, "queens") can go on a dating app and a line of simps will form in front of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 09:24 PM
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It doesn't make you seem hypocritical, it just makes you hypocritical (and blatantly bigoted).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 03:42 PM
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It sounds like you're making huge and wrong assumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 10:30 PM
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True, a lot of men can't afford a traditional / sole earner relationship these days. Or maybe it's just not a good financial decision. But they could still end up losing if they get divorced. I don't see why they'd want to take the risk? Personally, I can afford it and I own my house, I'd be horrified if some woman came along and legally stole it from me via divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:23 PM
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I feel so bad for these guys who pedestalize their "beloved" so much that they'd guarantee them they'll financially support them even if they fuck your best friend and leave you. Interesting that this is how women tokenize love. Marriage isn't about love. You don't need to be married to love. Marriage is about what happens when you don't love each other anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:56 PM
0

You can pool money with someone without marrying them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:51 PM
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What mission? The person who posed that question was on a mission to troll, spread hate, and create more resentment between men and women. So, a typical feminist. Mission accomplished.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 06:25 PM
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She's letting you know she's not dateable. You should thank her for her honesty. Better to find out on the first date than 5 dates in.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:06 PM
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She said she thinks it's funny to imply men are worse than animals and see how they react. The logic is that she is a troll. More trolling and hate speech follows in the rest of her post.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:52 AM
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This subreddit has been conditioning the women who read it to hate men for years. It's no wonder their responses to the man vs. bear question are like this. It's practically assumed there that men are worse than wild predatory animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:50 AM
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They say they'd choose a bear over a man but actually they're choosing lots of cats. I guess when you know deep down that only animals will put up with your bullshit, the choice is clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:39 AM
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Which is why I said "if you think you know a solution." I agree that if you don't know a solution there's no point in reminding someone of their problems. But in most cases there is something somebody can do to make themselves more attractive. Heck, any thin girl can get a boob job to go up one league if all else fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:34 PM
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I'm not going to go any further into an anecdata discussion but even though this is PPD you shouldn't assume I'm complaining. What I actually want is people to do one of two things. Declining to really get involved and just offering generic support is one option. But don't pat yourself on the back for doing this and act like you're a saint because this is basically just avoiding any hard work of really helping someone. If you think you know a solution you should tell them what the problem is and…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:37 PM
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That's not what I meant, I was saying women have the gloves off with other women but take the gloves off with men. It's like women infantilize and patronize each other but don't see the need to do this with men. You call it comforting and wonderful but I call it lying. Avoiding telling someone a hard truth is one thing but telling the complete opposite of the truth is bad, you are feeding delusions and leading them further down the wrong path.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:42 PM
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It's not my experience, it's actually more my observations of how women act towards other people. In fact I think women are more likely to do this with other women and tell them they are 10's and queens when they really are not that. With men the gloves are usually off.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:47 PM
3

No guy is able to fix you, sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:36 PM
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Softening the blow like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmP1ier3R30 You are so delusional if you think women are nice when rejecting men. They treat us like literal garbage. Men are way nicer when rejecting women. And you're really not the one to be lecturing me on empathy. There is an important distinction between empathy and sympathy. Empathy is when you feel the same as others. Ever heard of no pain, no gain? Empathy actually works against you when you're trying to help someone fix thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:16 PM
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"Consideration and care for others" is female speak for "I'm afraid of confrontation and responsibility so I'll avoid it by lying to make people feel better rather than telling them the truth to actually help them address their real problems."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:50 PM
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Women got a taste of the burdens men have to bear, and noped out as they always do. Perfect example of life on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:43 PM
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This is not good advice. If you want a partner you should be open to a partner if a good prospect comes along. If you take this advice, you'll get older and your prospects will diminish. Cold approaching, swiping forever on dating apps, being a complete fucking instagram simp... These are all the things men should walk away from. So it's true, hanging out with the boys is one of the best things you can do, and partly because being generally social could lead you to a good woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:15 PM
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I mean... the married ones are usually just good women? They are pleasant/chill and often have cool hobbies. Unmarried ones are usually entitled, standoffish, insecure, bitter and seem a lot less happy and a lot angrier (at men). Now add that a high percentage of over 30 single women are actually fat, divorced single moms and it's a hard no for most men. By that age, most women have accumulated baggage and the unmarried ones don't have a guy that has fixed them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:02 PM
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There's a lot wrong with dating apps and swiping habits. I'm not going to get into that. The more important question is when are standards too high? There are things worth compromising on and there are things which will doom the relationship if you compromise. Like I feel shared hobbies are "nice to have" (optional) but it would definitely get me more enthusiastic about committing to someone. I can share my hobbies with someone else. On the other hand if I compromise on physical standards that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:11 AM
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I'd feel comfortable with marriage if she was everything I wanted. Thing is, past a certain age the good women are mostly already married. Everyone else is just good enough "for now."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:52 PM
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Just like all feminism. It fails as soon as it comes into contact with the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 08:20 PM
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Why do I think a bias exists? I think it's because women are physically weaker, and they compensate for that by trying to win social approval and sympathy because they know they can't get by on physical strength. For example playing the victim is women's favorite game.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:54 AM
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Domestic violence is a good example. Women are just as likely to hit their partners, but it gets laughed off. If a man is accused though, he's arrested on the spot. If a woman is physically assaulting a man in public and he hits back, he'll get ganged up on by white knights.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 02:59 AM
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Yup, some random survey which is the best data available on the topic from what was possibly the most popular online dating platform in its time. If anything, things have gotten worse from the days of OKCupid. Tinder is way more of a look-centered hookup app than OKCupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:34 AM
1

Imagine calling yourself a man and asking women for permission to complain about anything
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:18 PM
1

If I'm crossing paths with an attractive woman I'll try to start a conversation, but most of the time they don't want to talk. I'm more confident than I've ever been so I'll do it when it's easy, like I would never cross a room to talk to a woman. Even then, it's probably not worth the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:17 PM
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20 years ago I might have, but now the culture is much more toxic. Why risk yourself to help people who treat you like dirt? Besides I did not get younger in the past 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 08:32 PM
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Simple solution, men don't go to college. Men are going to college in fewer numbers than ever. Just learn a trade and you'll make good money in a job that is unlikely to be automated. College is basically a scam in 2024. For the cost of a college education you are half-way to retirement nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 02:42 AM
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The popular trend for feminists right now is to imply men are worse than animals. It's actually a joke to say feminists are not man haters. We've seen several such posts in this subreddit this week. It's not even clear what constitutes a feminist. If you believe in equal rights does that make you a feminist? Because that covers most people. Secondly feminists are frequently delusional and are the crowd that likes to spin and say PC stuff (lie). I don't believe this study at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:21 PM
2

Ok, enjoy your sex with bears
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:39 PM
1

I didn't say you're not hot because I don't know what you look like. You could be playing above your league or saying things that scare men for example. That you think 5'11" is short tells me you're probably being unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:26 PM
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or pick the bear over a man they aren't interested in. And that makes some men unhinged, angry, and full of hate at anyone, especially women Or maybe men on the internet get mad when women/man-hating feminists on the internet post troll shit like this and literally say men are worse than animals? You are literally trolling men and then saying "u mad bro??"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:21 PM
1

When you're asking for "commitment" what you're really asking for is physical exclusivity. The relevant factor for this is physical attractiveness. No one is asking for hobby time exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:17 PM
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I really don't care if I reinforce your ideals/delusions because they don't matter and you lack the ability to change anything. They evaporate into nothing at first contact with reality. The only way they even exist is in social media bubbles and in safe spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 07:52 PM
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That is just a load of sourceless bullshit. Every high profile female CEO has gone down in flames, from Carly Fiorina to Marissa Mayer to Whitney Wolfe. The market is the ultimate bullshit detector and that's why men dominate elite positions. Women aren't prone to criminal behavior because if they're too terrified to spend a night in the woods with a random man, they're too terrified to rob a random man. Holy fuck I love feminist clown shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 07:36 PM
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Weird how a blatantly misandrist question elicits a misogynistic response doesn't it? There's two components to any behavior: willingness and ability. Women lack ability. That's why men are more likely to be criminals. Or CEOs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 07:19 PM
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Ironically, women are likely to die with the bear but not necessarily because of the bear. It's because they're completely incompetent and if you put them out in the woods alone, they're likely to freeze to death or die of thirst. This has been proven over and over again on survival TV shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 07:14 PM
1

What is this question? Dating is the only part of my life that is difficult. If it weren't for this I'd be totally happy. Are you suggesting men can't find projects and problems to occupy themselves with?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:07 PM
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For real, why do women think knowing how to cook is a flex? You can apply heat to something for a specified period of time, woooow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:53 AM
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It's one data point and it's an outlier which doesn't make a lot of sense. That's reason enough by itself to throw it out before you delve into their survey methods or reproducibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:44 AM
1

Yeah somebody has already debunked this https://ifstudies.org/blog/theres-no-huge-gender-gap-in-being-single-among-young-adults The data looked sus and people shouldn't have just accepted it. Bad studies do happen. It disagrees with other data and that's enough for me to throw it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:08 PM
2

This shows both an ignorance of supply and demand and also what actual horniness is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:51 PM
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Neither you nor ChatGPT are using statistics correctly. Nor the word hypergamous. You can't just assume 50% of overweight women are childless or have kids because 50% of women are childless. There could be a correlation between these different variables. Maybe once they got married and had kids they let themselves go. There are statistical tools to drill down into this data properly but ChatGPT ain't it. Regardless of how your argument was constructed, I do agree the quality of the American dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 06:56 PM
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For real, women can't handle the truth so let them live in the delulu land. Actually they'll usually turn it on you and call you toxic and abusive. Just dump them and give some vague generic reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 02:54 AM
-2

I wonder how many leftists upvoted this comment criticizing somebody's gender identity because their views aren't left-aligned.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:14 PM
2

You can apply that to like 90% of dating advice. Be confident, be funny, be respectful. If it's so easy then why don't we just shut down all these subreddits?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 06:10 PM
0

You cut off the part about them being actually funny for a reason. Were you making a joke? Because if so, point taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 04:40 AM
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Weird question. No guy cares about this because most women aren't funny. Name 3 famous female comedians who are actually funny. It's more important if they laugh at your jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 04:19 AM
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Now you're showing how you have no idea what red pill is. You're confusing it with black pill. You probably have no idea what blue pill is, either. These posts are just angry rants and gaslighting where you're changing definitions and rewriting history to suit your needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:59 PM
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Nope, burden of proof lies on the claimant. You're the one who started the thread promoting this idea, you're the one who has to justify it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:59 PM
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While i will admit that a portion sees it as an healthy source of motivation, for the most part it is used to justify either bitterness, giving up or being an asshole while dodging accountability. In order to do that it usually requires the use of double standards. Ok where's the data for this statement of facts? Oh right there is none. You are just making a bunch of worthless generalizations which only reflect your personal feelings towards the red pill. You have no idea how many it has helped …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:42 PM
2

Fair point. It's well known that the internet has allowed crazy people of all types to organize and validate each other and now they're running the whole country.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:07 PM
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I don't know how you can say whether someone would be a good mother based on a tiktok video they made. I agree that permissive parenting has gotten very bad in the Millennial generation and scientifically, the traditional authoritative parenting "shut up and eat your peas" style is better for children. Perhaps there's a correlation between left-leaning women with liberal parenting ideas and career-oriented women who fucked up their personal lives. But it seems kind of flimsy to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:55 PM
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All you've got is junk science and calling people names like pedos for dating a 24 year old. You need to go outside, get off your SSRI's and regain some type of connection with reality
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:48 PM
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Hell no, the internet was the best invention ever for men. It has nothing to do with the college gender gap, that's because of discriminatory title IX admissions policies. And it's also because there's plenty of good paying jobs for men that don't require a 4 year degree and putting yourself in debt for the next 30 years. Men are sinking because the entire cultural establishment is cheerleading for women over men. Almost every corporate media center has some pro-feminist section on their website…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:35 PM
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This is like some twisted Soviet joke. For any given scenario women will find a way to make the man into a creep and herself into a victim. There is no right time or place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:21 PM
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Sounds like your brain is still developing too
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:15 PM
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The problem with women's standards is they're bad at choosing good men. I cannot believe the stories of the guys women are putting up with while other guys get ignored. Women will have broke men mooching off of them while being toxic and they still want to stay with him. Like how are they picking these guys? I make 6 figures, have a postgrad degree, own a house, I'm thin and 5'10" and most women bat me away like an annoying fly. Women are honestly terrible at vetting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 11:55 PM
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You are just raging against biology. Sexuality is about fertility and for women that peaks at young age. Nature has decided this, not society. If you're married by age 35 then you don't have a problem. If you're not, you fucked around and found out. Men feel invisible their whole lives and they're not gonna feel any sympathy for you, welcome to the male experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 03:55 AM
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"Be polite to every man who approaches you :)" is all well and good until you reach like 18 and you become experienced enough to realise they're only approaching you because they like the look of your tits and ass. Sorry but I don't think that's a good excuse for being rude. Women value men for all kinds of selfish and superficial reasons too. Nice car, nice clothes, a job title etc. If you think women are the only pure and innocent ones looking into people's souls and judging men by the content…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:06 PM
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30/40s men are in their peak earning years, still in good physical shape, and have lots of resources and wisdom to share. They're also a lot more confident than when they were 20, and ready to find something long term. These are all things women find attractive. Women's attractiveness peaks in their (early) 20s. It seems fair for men and women to get together when they are both at their peak, right? Like why would a 40ish dude who's the best, most attractive version of himself want to be with a …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 04:46 AM
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It's a completely rational assessment. You said every man who approaches you is trash. Do you seriously think you just have very bad luck and this doesn't have something to do with you? What are the odds of this? Looks like another woman who can't see through her own delusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:24 PM
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I'm almost 40 and I can only think of one time in my entire life where I was respectfully approached by a non-trashy man. This sounds like you think all men are trash. Or is it all poor men are trash? Do you often see men that you don't consider to be trash and they just don't approach you, or do they approach you and give you some kind of ick and now they're trash?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 10:56 AM
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I got the book Why Men Love Bitches and it made a lot of interesting claims that I had never even thought of. It was saying to act mysterious, don't be a doormat, and to be sweet but assertive. It was a giant manual on how to play hard to get to offer a challenge for a man instead of acting submissive and immediately cooking for him. Men do not in fact love bitches. This is just a book that tells bitches what they want to hear so they can justify continuing their shitty behavior. "Feisty" sounds…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:52 PM
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It's because all the pressure is on men to acquire a relationship. They have to make the approach, be smooth, plan good dates, pass all the crazy ick tests etc. Women just have to look pretty and exist and they'll have so many offers they actually get mad about it. It's just more work for men and more pressure, a lot of guys just aren't feeling up to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:14 PM
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Brain not fully developing until 25 is not infantilizing adults, it’s a fact. And it holds true for both men and women. It's a reductionist neurological argument which has no clearly established connection to somebody being able to make decisions about their life. If you think a 24 year old cannot understand relationship dynamics because "their brain isn't fully developed," you are not in touch with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 12:44 AM
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Most of the male-friendly female youtubers I know of are married. This is just a pearl davis hate thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:02 PM
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This is one of the great dilemmas of the female mind. I don't even know how to resolve it. Women say they want princess treatment. But if you act too interested, it means you're desperate and a loser. Afterall, who else could love a girl like her? It makes me wonder how any relationships start at all. Doesn't somebody have to show interest to get something going? I think most women would prefer to be with a player than a loser. Just watch what they do and who they end up with. At this point, wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 02:38 PM
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That's a pretty twisted definition of love. You're framing love in terms of ego, validation, and sacrifice. You're just showing off your insecurities and "inexperience" right now. Also you're effectively saying older women are incapable of love because they cannot give their youth to their future partner. If anything I'd say you're projecting because you're the one who's incapable of loving older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 05:30 AM
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Dealing with women is like trying to defuse a bomb. The smartest move is to not play their game.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 08:10 PM
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No it wasn't an obvious statement, it was a hyperbole to the absurd that clouded the obvious like most of your other posts. "As long as she looks somewhat sorta vaguely fuckable from a distance in foggy weather" implies no standards which is not the same as low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 07:51 PM
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I see your standards for honest debate are as low as your standards for women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 05:27 PM
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Men don’t give a fuck. As long as she looks somewhat sorta vaguely fuckable from a distance in foggy weather, we’re good. Speak for yourself bud
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 05:01 PM
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Yes they do lol. Getting approached by 100 unattractive men does not alleviate their need to get a man they're attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 05:00 PM
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This is a dumb way to look at things. You shouldn't be encouraging anyone to dump people for an ego boost. This is like when women dress slutty and tease guys because they're feeling insecure and want validation. Men who dump women who don't meet standards are high value. Men who dump women because they're playing some ego mind game are low value and have issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 02:30 PM
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Nope, equality is just feminism's marketing slogan. Once you dig into feminism, it's all patriarchy, male gaze, male privilege, toxic masculinity, #MeToo, on and on. It quickly reduces into a No True Scotsman fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:34 PM
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It's because 80% of consumer purchasing decisions are made by women. Corporations, the things that control the media and our culture, have decided it's in their best interest to take the side of women whenever possible. On top of that, feminism benefits corpas by lowering the cost of labor. Of course they are going to take the pro-female and anti-male viewpoint when forced to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:31 PM
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The problem is that if a man asks for a divorce, he loses half his assets, his home, child custody, pays alimony and child support etc. This is why women push for commitment - they can't lose, it's a huge bag for them. It's morally okay to ask for a divorce if your partner isn't making you happy. But just because she won't fuck you physically doesn't mean she won't fuck you financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 10:08 PM
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Are we distinguishing between single and divorced? I know an older woman who has never been in a relationship as long as I've known her. She seemed very happy with her life, until she got breast cancer. Fortunately she has lots of friends to help her. Older divorced moms seem like some of the unhappiest people I know. Or at least they have the most problems. It's hard to say for sure without having some awkward conversations. I suspect that because women's sex drive drops off after menopause, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:00 PM
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Didn't we use to call these things booty calls?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:34 PM
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What a weird question. It's like you're so focused on stereotypes you're trying to lead the thread down some familiar path. Why do you think I want to decide what makes a great guy? I'm not trying to date guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:22 AM
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Quite the opposite. You're in more danger of settling when you're a leftover woman and there's no guys left. Your best chance of getting a great guy is when you're at your peak attractiveness. How is this hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:29 AM
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It's a troll if you're allergic to truth and don't know what to do with it. Women who aren't just pushing a boss babe fantasy land agenda could use this information to "negotiate" from a position of strength and lock a man down when they're young. Or they could listen to delusional older women who are in denial and don't really have their best interests at heart, and end up like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:05 AM
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Is that why all the women in this sub are just here to troll?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 11:17 PM
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What responsibilities do all women have in a relationship? Try to be more obvious that your question is a trap and you're not arguing in good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 07:54 PM
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Because they are? You're going through a series of interviews to find someone to financially provide for you. The average job search lasts 6 months and is arguably less fun than dating. Most people don't have 6 months of savings so either way you may end up back home. Besides 70% of divorces are initiated by women. If you're so bad at being a wife that you're in the 30%, maybe it's best that you service your boss rather than some poor guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:33 PM
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If you're not financially dependent on your husband, you're financially dependent on your employer. If your boss loves you more than your husband, that says a lot about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:14 PM
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It's not all about you. You completely ignored my wider point. Yes a physician contributes something of value to humanity. But for every physician there's 10 other positions that are mostly just about legally tricking someone into giving a business their money. Most women don't distinguish as long as he has a job. If you chose the health care profession because you want to help others and you expect the same from your mate, that's cool. But not every woman is a physician.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:03 PM
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But if he’s just bumming around taking care of himself and contributing nothing to humanity, that’s not someone I’d be interested in This is why corporations love feminism. They've brainwashed you all into believing your career is what makes you valuable. You're not contributing something of value to humanity. You're contributing value to shareholders. Elon Musk agrees and thanks you for lowering the cost of labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 03:31 PM
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Women say ick to everything, who fucking cares
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 03:27 PM
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Why did I ever read this subreddit :(
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 07:02 PM
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Consider that there are forms of mistreatment other than rape
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 12:59 AM
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Lol. Since you brought up reading comprehension and this subreddit I would direct you to the word "debate." It's not like your book club where you all just stroke each other. Actually nevermind, you've convinced me. Older men should not engage in relationships with younger women because they would not be able to tolerate these clueless babblings. Brilliant debate strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 11:25 PM
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Also, it's evident that you men cannot read and lack comprehension skills because y'all missed the entire point of the tread Lol what? "I clearly stated an opinion opposite to yours, can you not read??" You realize I don't have to agree right? And yes I can read all the other subreddits where women are asking advice on getting with older guys and are not just there to soapbox or troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:19 PM
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Unless he's above average in looks or in terms of wealth, which the vast majority of men aren't, older men are left with little choice but to pursue women in their own age group. No, that's not how statistics works. 50% of men are above average. The dating market doesn't care about people who are unattractive and undateable. They are non-factors. Plenty of young women are willing to date good looking older men who are ready to commit, treat them right, and financially provide for them, because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:41 PM
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Little dude? Wow even blue haired land whales are doing the internet tough guy act now. Peterson got his license revoked because he expressed right wing views instead of left wing views. If he expressed left wing views, he would not have had his license revoked. If you don't see the problem with that, I will enjoy watching you cry when the "fascists" come to take your rights away.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:10 AM
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No, he lost his license because unhinged lunatics like you flooded some random Canadian board with letters crying about how he failed your ideological purity tests. Not surprising you don't see the problem with the re-education option. I'd try to explain it to you, but there's no point. You're the type of person who just waits for the latest directives from your ideological hive mind so why argue with someone incapable of independent thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:53 AM
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Sorry, if you think Jordan Peterson is horrible there's no point in this because you're just too rabid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:30 AM
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That's amazing. It only took 50 years of women's rights to destroy society. Thank you for your contributions. If there's one thing I'm going to enjoy about this is how feminism will basically destroy itself. In about 10-20 years we are going to have major crises with entitlements and debt in western societies. There won't be enough young workers to pay for these things and shit is going to hit the fan. No one's a feminist in corrupt, high crime societies where you need a man to protect you and y…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 10:01 PM
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Who cares? Don't you love watching a good train wreck in action? This makes for great content when all these "10's" on tiktok are wondering why men are ghosting and ignoring them. Do you know how much it costs to freeze eggs? Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 09:52 PM
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Holy moly this is just so wrong. None of what you advocated is good for society. Men are avoiding relationships that's what hookup culture is and it's creating a lot of damaged women. Marriage rate is the strongest predictor of happiness in a society. Paying for prostitution, OF, "walking away" (MGTOW) etc. just shows you don't understand what men or even humans need. These are crass downgrades from good relationship models. Lastly, informational resources have existed before youtube they were c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 06:11 PM
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If more men could and would set boundaries and walk away (especially from sex) they would gain equal footing to women in the dating market but that won’t happen. That doesn't make sense. Walking away doesn't gain you anything unless you have leverage on your end. If you have no leverage, no one cares if you walk away, you just lose the thing you wanted. Now if all men suddenly started saying I'm not going to fix your car or your toilet unless you fuck me, now we're getting somewhere. To the OP's…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:03 PM
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Women don't have higher standards. Women have choices, and that upsets some people. And what do women do with their choices? Screech that they're not responsible for anybody or anything, codify anti-male sexism into laws and corporate culture, and spiral into vicious cycles of hookups, therapy, and binging to cope with how terrible their lives are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 04:41 PM
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You've misread what the manosphere is. It's just a support group or coping mechanism for lonely, disaffected men. Women have lots of female spaces where they go to vent, but the moment something like that for men pops up it needs to be banned. I'd say about 90% of this manosphere content is junk food which produces no long term solutions, it just makes people feel better for a moment. But I could name a few who try to be constructive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 04:37 PM
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Basically for (straight) men, is your only concern when interacting with a woman whether a straight woman is going to sleep with you/be a potential partner or not? Untrue, if I have a female friend who doesn't want to sleep with me, she may know other females who are willing to sleep with me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:41 AM
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I live in a small US city, not a major city. There is no social scene here. Every decently attractive girl will move away from here ASAP, leaving only 40+ here raising kids. People in this area are famous for being unfriendly. Closest major city is almost an hour away. There is a massive housing cost crisis so I moved away from it. That city has plenty of attractive women, but I just don't like bars enough to be bothered most nights.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 07:52 PM
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Dating app problem. Women who go on dating apps are there to be picky and they have a license to be picky, both because women already have options without dating apps, and because the gender ratio favors them. Women who aren't on dating apps are much more reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:34 AM
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I would think approaching women is easier for other women because (a) you can't be labeled a creep or some kind of sexual terrorist and (b) they don't have their shields up against other women, they don't automatically suspect you of wanting something
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 08:22 PM
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Women are already red pill because they understand looks are the most important thing in dating and already make great investments into looking good. I'm not sure what women being bad to each other has to do with red pill unless your only idea of red pill is that it's about misogyny and bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:40 PM
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What is this inane psycho babble? It's trivially easy to defend my stance and the only reason I even need to explain it is because you live in feminist bizarro world where you refuse to acknowledge basic dating realities so you can have it both ways. Men are expected to plan dates, pay for dates, tell you you're pretty, initiate the first kiss, initiate sex, buy gifts and flowers etc. That's literally every sign of affection. It really makes guys feel wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 02:43 AM
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Get your toxic shit off my comment. I'm beginning to see why men chronically like you less than you like them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 01:53 AM
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Yeah I came here to say this. Women want to be pursued and showered with affection. If they aren't getting this, they will notice and become unhappy with the relationship. Men on the other hand are used to receiving no affection and won't miss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 01:43 AM
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This is a common problem, it's not ridiculous. For example in business, sports, or military settings. It's actually a lot easier than like someone lacking confidence in their free throw or something in that women have control over what happens when a man approaches a woman. That's not to say women should be agreeing to things they don't want, but they could at least be like men and be nice when rejecting someone, like throw in a compliment or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 10:22 PM
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I foresee social welfare programs crumbling because they depend on an increasing population. Better save that double income wisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 03:48 AM
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Let me guess. You met this person through a dating app, you have no mutual friends or acquaintances and you're never going to see her again. Think about why she doesn't feel the need to leave it on good terms - there's no consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:46 PM
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The majority of it is done before you even show up. Staying fit and taking care of your body, choosing the right clothes, having a good hairstyle etc. As for behaviors it's not so much about making a man feel he's "impressive." It's about making him feel needed and desirable. Also very important is showing you are light-hearted and fun, not bitter and jaded with lots of baggage to carry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:14 PM
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It wasn't in this episode, they had her on another one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:52 AM
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"Unless you are officially exclusive, date several men at once and have a FWB you trust. This is why women are all stuck in situationships with no commitment. Five guys is a fast food chain not a dating strategy. If you're getting affection from multiple guys at once none of them will feel special to you and you'll never fall in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:13 AM
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Theoretically, I wouldn't rule out a porn star only because I think having a sexy wife is a lot better than having kids or friends. But actually when this podcast interviewed Molly Little who's also in this clip, I was so turned off by how dumb and immoral she is. I have a feeling that's a common thing with porn stars so they probably wouldn't get very far with me. Plus I absolutely would rule out OnlyFans creators and most porn stars have an OnlyFans nowadays. The way they toy with men's emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 08:23 PM
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This is something I'm considering. Based on my extensive... ummm... research... I've concluded the most beautiful women to me live in a different country. It also seems likely my values will be more aligned with non-American women. And besides, I don't do enough traveling as it is. So it makes sense to me that I should go where my chances are highest to find the perfect woman for me. I'm not really worried about just going somewhere I can get lots of poon, I'm getting too old for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:31 PM
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but they will treat you well and love you. They all have low n counts and aren’t hypergamous and are submissive and cook and clean. I'm looking for a wife not a maid or some fawning slave. You're saying they're physically unattractive and also have weird personalities that I'm not into. So they don't fit my two most important criteria. It would be a terrible idea to marry one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:24 PM
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This is mostly a problem with online dating apps where a 6 can go exclusively for 8+ and get matches. In the real world, women are more reasonable about guys they'll consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:18 PM
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The only way I'd do this is if the woman is just so amazingly better than every other woman I've ever met, and she's not expecting me to move in with her and adopt the kids. If she's a single mom, the chances of her being amazingly better than other women are very low. Despite what Pornhub tries to sell, there's nothing good about being a stepdad. It's just another shitty, thankless job for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:03 PM
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This just sounds like the slutty take on sex where it's only about pleasure and physical attraction. How do you know if you're "truly attracted" to someone after 2 dates? You barely know that person. It's not that sex is only an incentive or a moral test, it's more like a special bond that you don't just share with everyone. Some level of trust and intimacy is required. Remember that the concept of chastity was due to risks like pregnancy and STDs, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:17 PM
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Yeah the point is guys who are just looking for a cheap lay will give up if it's going to take them several dates to get to home base.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:48 PM
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Putting aside this example I think more men ought to try to "be the prize" instead of being the desperate pussy hound. Men who have no standards and do anything to get laid is not good for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:37 PM
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If you love someone's body and personality, then you love that person. Unless you're religious and believe souls are real, there is nothing more to a person than their body and personality. Also if their body or personality changes too much it's fair to say they're not the same person you loved. If you put yourself in stressful circumstances it doesn't matter how much you love someone. Mothers will yell at their kids when they're misbehaving too. Just because you love someone doesn't mean they'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:27 PM
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Most women are capable of being that, at least until they're 40. Not every guy can be a 6'3" CEO
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 05:07 PM
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thank you for being beautiful and fertile m'lady
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 01:34 AM
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This really depends. If by "alpha" you mean a guy who tries to elevate himself above other men and puts other men down, I agree with you. There's a lot of guys like this. They've betrayed the patriarchy. But if it's just a man who has focused on self-improvement and making himself more attractive, you're wrong and you're just jealous. There's nothing wrong with self-improvement or working towards a goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 10:08 PM
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You know, I always thought it was kind of funny when "she knows what she wants" is given as the main advantage to dating older women according to dating advice. Like, great, she knows how to put demands on me, this is supposed to be a benefit for me? But now I'm kind of seeing it. A woman who actually knows how to make herself happy is not to be underestimated. As a man I just take this for granted, because most men know what they need to be happy. But if you're unhappy and you don't even know w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 09:11 PM
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Women are just harder to please and have a harder time being happy with their life than men. I would hypothesize that this is connected to the higher rates of mental illness in women. I'm not sure what can be done about it as a man. Almost makes you want to give up because it feels like they're always looking for something to complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 08:49 PM
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Wow, this thread is just a bunch of women circle... uhh, preaching to the choir. I'll just speak to my personal situation. I make 6 figures and live independently. I would want either 0 or 1 kids so I'd be able to support the whole family. I think the ideal arrangement is for the father to fully finance the family and the mother stays home. I also work from home though so I'd undoubtedly be involved anyway. One thing I know for sure though... as someone who has lived alone for a long time and do…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 08:32 PM
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Imagine a hypothetical situation that you’re seeing a girl of your dreams. She’s great looking and checks your boxes. That friend of yours is a real scum bag too. He’s a seducer and regularly dumps women after sex. Girl of my dreams and the friend is a scumbag? I'd dump the friend and keep the girl. This scenario is impossible though because the girl of my dreams would not be fucking scumbags, let alone my friend while dating me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:25 PM
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Someone hounding me about chores makes me not want to live with a girlfriend or wife. I get along just fine on my own, the last thing I need is a new mom telling me to do my chores. It seems to me the relationship would be stronger with a little independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 06:14 PM
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Nope. Men don't just want sex, they want intimacy too. OF is a thing because some men are so starved for female attention they'll pay for a perverted, fake version of it. Regarding point 1, wouldn't it be nice if women just admitted to their man and to themselves they'll dump him if he becomes broke? That way men would know where they stand and they can lose these delusion of loyalty and love.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 02:22 PM
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These 2 comments are a perfect illustration of how extremists think. Everything is black and white with nothing in between. If someone disagrees with you they're a Nazi or a commie. There is only my tribe and the enemy tribes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 09:03 PM
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Damn, equality sounds really complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 06:14 PM
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I agree, that makes a lot of sense. I was actually just thinking about this because my views are a mix of right and left. If you took some of my views you wouldn't call them "moderate" but regardless I don't feel at home with the right or left. I was thinking another good term for this might be "non-aligned."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 05:18 PM
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Damn, this was almost a good topic until he had to make it about cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 02:31 PM
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I guess this makes moderates the MVPs of the dating world. Actually, even moderates have their limits in that they're turned off by extreme views. But a moderate can get along with anyone from center-right to center left without losing their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 02:29 PM
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I know people who haven’t changed their views at all and are now being viewed as right wing when they were labeled as liberals in the past.You also have the weird feminist mixing going on. I know someone like that too. It's me. Also what do you mean by "weird feminist mixing"? In the moderate camp?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 02:21 PM
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He's got a point. This music sucks. Why would you want to marry someone with bad taste in music? Anyway nice job giving the troll the attention he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:56 PM
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exactly, get trolled kiddos the worrying part is that some people take these ideas seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:46 PM
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Doesn't voice any controversial opinions Has no fun and exciting hobbies Bad taste in music and movies Predictable, if I always know what they'll say or do
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:11 AM
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It just looks like women are in control because they are the ones doing the rejecting / making the final decision whereas men are usually the ones needing to sell themselves. And men have stronger sex drives which can create a level of desperation akin to going hungry. Btw women can and do approach men when they find them attractive. And even if they don't approach they can send signals instead. In all it is better to be a woman in dating because reviewing 100 applications is better than having …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 09:44 PM
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If you're dating someone your own age but has way more life experience than you, isn't that a power imbalance and they're going to dominate the relationship? Or do women only get upset about power imbalances when they favor the man? If anything, the inexperience would be balanced out by the age difference and the relationship would be more give and take. Or maybe you're both inexperienced and are able to relate to each other better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 03:59 PM
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There's 2 problems with your scenario. First you're assuming he'd have the balls to do that. Second is that women are never polite when rejecting a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:16 PM
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I don't... what? I have never been deliberately humiliated or shamed for approaching a woman. If you're afraid of this it's a problem on your end. I think you're actually shaming yourself with your own insecurities and then blaming women. For people with no social skills, here's a cool tip. If someone tries to humiliate you, you can do it back to them. It's called "trash talk" and anyone who does this to you for merely daring to speak to them probably deserves to get shit on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:27 PM
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You've identified the root of so many problems in America. It's a topic of concern among social scientists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_capital
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:09 PM
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A woman who only has sex in committed relationships will have that same process for you. It’s not lack of attraction, it’s simply needing that emotional investment and trust first. We are not men with tits, many women are just wired this way. No, women are just as bad as men. When women see an attractive man, they are just as down bad and unable to resist. It isn't about ego, it's about whether this person is able to be a loyal wife. And if she's able to resist, that's a sign she doesn't find yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:10 PM
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Both points have a common factor which is that 40% of the US is obese. Neither men or women have unrealistic standards, it's just that everyone is holding themselves to low standards while holding everyone else to high standards. Body positivity is an attempt to normalize these low standards but it doesn't work because now we have women saying they find most men unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:40 PM
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This is nonsense. I'm just gonna jump straight to an analogy because it's too funny. Truck drivers have a divorce rate of 40% because they are constantly away from home. This is the second highest divorce rate of any industry. It is a statistical fact that women do not want to be married to truck drivers. Women seem to want to go shopping, but they don't want the men in their lives to make shopping or society as a whole possible. I demand that you self-exile yourself from society due to your reg…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:36 PM
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In the coming decades, as the education gap between women and men grows even larger, women will be out earning men by a pretty decent majority. No one can predict what's going to happen a year from now let alone decades. There is no doubt in my mind that whatever trends we're seeing now will be obliterated within 10 years. There's too many destabilizing forces at work in the world right now. Also you don't need a college degree to out-earn women. Truck drivers and plumbers earn 6 figure salaries…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:23 PM
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I think most people's opinions are more about what they want to believe so they can continue justifying their own behavior. It would take a great shock like being cheated on to force someone to confront their own beliefs. FWIW last month I was blue pill. Then I had what I'd call a red pill experience. Since then I've been thinking about it which led me here. Now I see situations where either strategy could work so I'm calling it purple. I don't think I could go back to being fully blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:19 PM
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And it’s delusional to think that it’s only hot and rich men who cheat. Ugly and poor men cheat too. This is no point at all. There are almost no independent variables in social sciences that are 100% predictive. Unless you are arguing that hot and ugly men cheat in equal measures then you have no point. You are welcome to that viewpoint but I think it's clearly incorrect and you're just using it to rationalize hypergamous behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:34 PM
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It's a rude and kind of dumb question to ask on a date. The whole point of the date is for you to figure out what they bring to the table. At best it makes the date like a job interview which is a total vibe killer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:22 PM
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You are confusing cause and effect. Cheating doesn't make you high value. Being high value makes you a cheater. When you are continually surrounded by tempting options you're going to have a hard time settling down. I don't have a lot of sympathy for women who date way out of league and are then shocked by the result.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:48 PM
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Bro if you're not ooga booga'ing you're missing out it's really fun
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:41 PM
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I “monkey dance” a bit in life whether for work or personal. It’s a part of life for me because I value the tradeoffs I get. If you're just looking to get laid that's fine but this doesn't work for romantic relationships. If you can't be yourself you're not loved, they only love the alter-ego. What's the point? In related news, the number of men single and not looking is very high and rising. Besides most of us don't have a choice about whether we play along at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 01:16 AM
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Ok so that's a complicated topic and why my flair is purple and not red. There's 3 pillars to the red pill and I think they're all true: looks, status, game. If you're 10/10 maxed in one you don't need the others. If you're mid you'll need another pillar. If you're hot you can be awkward as hell and they'll call it cute and quirky. If you're ugly it's called creepy. I saw a youtube of how a 10 uses Tinder. His opener was "Hmm." It must have been a hilarious joke because they kept throwing themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:35 AM
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But alas! I forget that inference and bros of PPD are diametrically opposed! Well that's just obviously wrong. We are clearly capable of drawing bad inferences. Regarding your edit, you put "the people we want." Let me just ask something. Let's say I'm a 6 and I want a 6. I could be a 7 or an 8 if I looksmaxx, but does it seem fair to you? Because the hypergamy problem is that you need to be a league above to get the woman you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:55 PM
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So there's a problem with this. Women (and men) chase after good-looking assholes all the time. Is it really their personality retaining them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:12 PM
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Idk where you live but the majority of people I see are not "looks-maxxed" lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:48 PM
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You missed it. I meant looks alone are not enough for a relationship. Men have figured out is that women don't care how much of an asshole a guy is, as long as he looks good they'll flock to him. This implies they aren't considering personality or even worse, they are attracted to bad traits. This makes women's relationship choices untrustworthy. At best you're being used and not valued or supported for who you are so where's the point in a relationship? And in the worst case you're valued for b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:54 PM
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Looks are a basis for a hookup, not a relationship. We are in this weird situation now where women are interested in men only for their looks, then cry when they don't want a relationship with them. It used to be that women were the ones crying about men only wanting them for their looks and rejected men on that basis. Now it seems men are doing the same. The whole red pill realization is that looks matter way more than personality, and this leads directly to the spin plates mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:37 PM
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Going by the strict definition neither of you are using the word correctly. You are both using a casual and everyday understanding of the word so in that respect it seemed an unfair criticism. It's another instance where someone says "men do this" or "women be like that" on this subreddit when it applies to everybody. Your core point that everyone has their reasons and they may have different values is true enough. But it doesn't seem like much of a defense when their reasons and values are the …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:14 AM
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To do it right you have to go for an extended period of time so you can immerse yourself in the culture and go on multiple dates with women. It's a big commitment. Foreign women don't have the same cultural context or sense of humor as me which doesn't make them the best life partner. But it sounds like you're just talking about sex tourism which seems dumb to me because it's a lot easier and cheaper to just pay a prostitute. Or god forbid just lower your standards and hit on local women. Yeah i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:14 PM
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I studied philosophy in college. Someone already quoted the Wikipedia page in this thread which gives the strictly correct definition of logic. As I said, I don't think it's the right word to use if we're being precise. In fact if we're talking about disciplines of philosophy, which logic is, it's not the correct discipline to examine the divorce example that was linked. It makes much more sense to discuss that in the context of ethics. Objective logic has almost nothing to do with whether you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:20 PM
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Your definition of logic isn't right. It sounds like you're trying to define rational or reasonable, and I would agree that those would be better words to use in the example you linked. As for why men call women illogical, here's a few examples for a start: Do I look fat in this dress? And there's only one answer. If you don't want an honest answer, why are you asking? The latest trend to be a "born-again virgin." A self-contradiction and purely illogical. Women like to say things like "everythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:07 PM
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You are taking this whole gaslighting thing and running with it. Very funny. What pieces?? There's 3 words in that statement. If you take other unrelated blue pill advice like "women don't care about looks as much as men" and piece it together, it makes things worse. Is this like how when women say "I'm fine" it means they're not fine? Here's a contextual clue for you. That's alright when somebody just received something upsetting, but when someone gives you dating advice there are greater expec…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:15 AM
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What a crazy take. That's definitely an equivocation. The clear implication of "just be yourself" is to not change your behavior whereas your version almost requires change to be true. Unless you're positing some kind of multiple personality where we can "just" pick the best version like flipping a switch and this version somehow doesn't contradict all the other versions. Except even if that were true, it's not enough for a lot of guys. Unless you're also going to stretch it to "live in the gym …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:58 AM
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I see gaslighting is all the rage on PPD now. Sure, no one has ever said "just be yourself" when giving dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 11:42 PM
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It's not popular in other media because corporate media is pro-feminist and anti-male. It's still a counter-culture but if you look at how Gen Z men are running to the right and at social media trends like looksmaxxing you can see its tenets are on the uptake.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:56 PM
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“WOMEN REWARD ASSHOLES!” and that sentiment is why no one likes nice guys. No, you just don't like getting called out on being a mess with shit taste in men. Apparently, women’s personalities don’t matter, women’s preferences don’t matter, women’s autonomy doesn’t matter. They do matter, the fact that they're being discussed shows that they matter. Specifically, they matter in that they encourage asshole behavior. You're just mad that you're being held responsible for it. If a guy can’t figure o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:10 PM
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Money doesn't matter to me at all in a partner. If she's otherwise what I'm looking for and good to me I would love to support her and I am able to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:00 PM
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Neither. Having a child with an actual sugar baby sounds terrible. I would never pay someone to have my child. Children deserve to have a loving and stable family.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:43 AM
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It's difficult to disrupt the dating app market because new dating apps have no users. Dating apps are only useful if they have users. It's a chicken and egg problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 12:03 AM
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Yes and guys who have no trouble with women are also more likely to get in trouble with the law. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:19 PM
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I'm sure that's part of it. Intelligent men are more likely to be satisfied with intellectual pursuits, and these don't bring them into contact with a lot of women. The MIT example was used. STEM is notoriously a field devoid of women. How many famous female physicists and mathematicians are there?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 09:12 PM
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I have a different interpretation of your data. The more intelligent you are, the more you avoid women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:50 PM
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Every position taken on the internet is misrepresented by the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:15 PM
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I've never understood why people love bullshit so much. Surely they understand it's just a program spitting out canned lines and does not represent any real sympathetic feelings? Are they so desperate they choose to ignore this fact and live in a dream world?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:54 PM
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Yeah sure, just fix the economy. Easy. We're looking at a 40+ year trend, it's not going away easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:42 PM
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Ideally, any enticements would be accompanied by flirtation so that intentions are clear. I think this is how (aristocratic) courtship worked in the old times. Keeping your motives completely hidden is dumb because you're eventually going to have to reveal them and find out if you are wasting your efforts. If she thinks you're ugly and gross you're not going to overcome that by being nice. On the other hand I feel like attractive women can usually tell when guys are attracted to them and they us…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:27 PM
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Tinder ruined online dating. Before Tinder, online dating was stigmatized but the apps were a lot more serious and profile-oriented towards finding deep connections. On Tinder you swipe profiles faster than you can swipe toilet paper. Of course it leads to a lot of poor treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:06 PM
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Yeah... like that fringe group in the 1910s? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffragette_bombing_and_arson_campaign
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:43 PM
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Ok, you almost had me, I think the term is over-used but there could be a much smaller set of cases where it is rightly applied. Then you veered off course with your examples. A stay-at-home mom is most likely married. How is it clear that she is a pickme? Her beliefs are obviously sincerely held because she is living them. It is okay for women to criticize other women. Re: Pearl Davis, again, it's not clear at all. She is a professional content creator. You know what people like that do? They t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:10 AM
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Yeah you said that, and I didn't care because it's a front. As soon as you look under the surface, you see pickme being applied to political commentators for example. These people are obviously not doing it for "male validation."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:54 PM
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Let me guess: you’re the type who thinks JustPearlyThings and Andrew Tate are on men’s side? Ah, another slip of the mask. You reveal your adversarial outlook by dividing men and women into different sides with a win/lose dynamic. This is not what I advocate. The part about common ground was pretty central to my post. A dialectic reconciliation seems like a reasonable goal, but with entrenched tribalism shutting down conversation with terms like "pickme," progress is impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:20 PM
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Just having solidarity with men does not a pick me make. A trad wife isn’t always a pick me. Pick mes thrive off male validation and throw other women under the bus to get it. I empathize with men’s issues and also have a pretty traditional relationship no ones accused me of being pick me. Translation: disagreeing with other women's political viewpoints on social or gender issues = throwing them under the bus = pickme. Thank you for confirming what I said in the OP, with the added coloration tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:38 PM
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WTF? What an absurd example. If the only thing you can successfully argue against is enablers of child abuse, that shows the level you're on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:19 PM
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I couldn't believe this guy reached out again. Like, brother... have some self-respect. As soon as women start playing these passive aggressive entitled games with me, I immediately unmatch and forget them. Also I do enjoy Courtney's reactions to this stuff. It's like you have your dream girl and the woman from your nightmares on a split screen and they're having a conversation. Kind of refreshing to be reminded that not all women are this delusional and entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 07:05 PM
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Yes it is 😂 I'd say she's creating drama and trolling for views at this point, but I've run into a lot of women like her on online dating. The landscape is bleak.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:13 PM
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He didn't fumble the bag, he dodged a bullet, this woman is a nightmare 🤣 I saw this tiktok too because of a youtube reaction, I'm not gonna just repeat all of her in-depth analysis, but she's spot on so here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XmFzB9_XOk
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:02 PM
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Women in other threads: the 80/20 rule is wrong You: the 80/20 rule is true, I want to share a man with 3 other women; OR I'm incapable of simple math and fail to recognize 60% of women will lose this game, I am most likely going to be alone forever
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:46 PM
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If anyone below your league is automatically a goblin, your league must be pretty low. And you think you're entitled to total stud? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:12 AM
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You have "I hate people" in your flair 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:57 AM
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This is so fucking funny to me. You're a strong independent feminist, and you can't even fathom the idea that a woman might need to put in more effort than a man when she brings less to the table. Entitled, inequitable, traditionalist, deluded... take your pick of words to describe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:24 AM
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First of all I wouldn't advise anyone to get into a relationship with someone they're not attracted to. It makes no sense. But I would definitely advise women to date at or below their league and here's why: Lots of women say they want "princess treatment," they want to be chased, they want effort from the guy. That only happens if the guy is thrilled to be with them. If you're a mediocre option for a man of a certain stature, the reality is you're there to be pumped and dumped. You know women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:22 AM
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I am mostly red pill. I'm going to skip the obvious answer "data and facts need to be different." What would change my mind is if, when I speak with women in a polite, respectful or possibly shy manner, it would not be met with disinterest or repulsion. Also if people actually read bios on dating apps and didn't just insta-swipe based on the first photo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:27 AM
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Yeah, that's the point. Feminism is an anti-male hate group, so of course they criticize anything that elevates or benefits men. Red pill doesn't care what feminists say. If anything, the smartest thing a man can do is look at what feminists suggest and do the opposite. If you're making a feminist mad, you're probably doing something right.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:36 PM
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Who's going to disagree with this? The only interesting thing about the post is the implication that you should only be ready to assign blame and split when things get bad. Your lifelong partner is the most important decision of your life. If you're not going to take responsibility for that, you'll probably never take responsibility for anything. The responsibility can be as shallow as "I chose the wrong one" but it's usually deeper than that. This relationship requires effort and there is nothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:23 PM
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No, I think it's roughly equally difficult. But as the achievement gap widens, women will have a harder time dating up because there's fewer and fewer highly educated men. High status men are going to become even less likely to commit in the future because they're going to have even more options. For men trying to get with 10/10 women, it's already over, the bar has been raised so high that women on Instagram are reaching celebrities and getting offers to be flown out to places on a private jet.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:22 PM
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https://ifstudies.org/blog/husbands-with-much-higher-incomes-than-their-wives-have-a-lower-chance-of-divorce- I think the division of labor causes less disagreements. Tbh I don't want to live with a woman if there's going to be constant acrimony over who did what chores. I've lived alone and supported myself my whole life and it would be a hard downgrade to accept. Unless I marry a doctor or a lawyer or something (unlikely), the woman is going to be a net financial drain on me. If she's going to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:33 PM
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This looks like a poorly argued "equal rights, equal lefts" theme to me. op is a predator Ok that's just fucking obnoxious. Ironically you are illustrating the OP's point about how women are given a pass by society but you're ready to lynch this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:50 AM
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It's fucking wild to see this attitude all over reddit. Normal women do not think like this. Someone was trying to argue to me in another thread that a large percentage of men are sexual predators. It's not hard to guess where this attitude is coming from. It's all those feminist subreddits where every thread is a story of a sexual assault. This is a perfect example of how social media is distorting people's perceptions of the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:36 AM
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Other 2 are right. You're attractive enough but it doesn't matter because men are done with the game. I can get the same miserable results by going on a dating app except without the hard rejections. I'd suggest joining some kind of activity group. Much higher chance of getting a chance to socialize with guys and show them you're worth having around.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:47 AM
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It's just so cute and naive. If more than 10% of men were truly sexual predators, you'd be getting raped every week. You wouldn't even be safe at home. It would be catastrophic. You'd call the police and the call would be answered by another sexual predator. Did you really think that "b**h shield" is what's keeping you safe? Lol. It comes off as nervousness, which is not intimidating, we just feel bad for you. Those who are not psychos feel bad anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 08:38 PM
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Idk, I'd say a little girl jumping rope all by herself in a playground or graveyard in the middle of the night would be creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:53 PM
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Yeah so "lived experience" is just a rebrand of "anecdote." We make public policy with data that has passed statistical rigor, not feminist circle jerks. As for your stats, a single rapist could and often does have 10+ victims before they are caught. Speaking of lived experiences and sexual assaults going unreported, I was groped on the subway once. By a woman. Yes, in the place you shouldn't be touching total strangers. I didn't report her, I smacked her arm away and made some distance. I imagi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 12:22 AM
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https://www.security.org/blog/u-s-cities-ranked-by-the-frequency-of-registered-sex-offenders/ The registered sex offender rate is 300 per 100,000 people. That's 0.3%, which includes female sex offenders. And let's remember that in some jurisdictions, public urination is a sex offense. Even if we wildly assume the number of uncaught sex offenders is 10 times that number, it's 3% of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 09:48 PM
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If somebody is dumb enough to believe this is a viable strategy then they're doomed regardless of whether they know I'm joking or not
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:26 PM
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No, they just "empathize" with groups that you do not. That's why you don't have their support. How is this hard to understand? Not all women are man-hating entitled cat herders blaming the patriarchy for all their failures in life either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:29 PM
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"It works except for when it doesn't." What a compelling sales pitch from someone whose methods are clearly performing far worse than average. Also it's fucking hilarious that someone like you is criticizing victimhood right now. The next time you feel "victimized" by a man I'll be sure to point and laugh
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:21 PM
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Feminism doesn't have an obligation to, nor does it have the resources to comprehensively support both men and mens issues And yet intersectional feminists are perfectly happy to take up the causes of LGBT and racial minorities. I wonder why you pick and choose like that? Politics is not about empathy, it's about power. Feminists are trying to make alliance with other groups to increase their political power so they can defeat the group(s) opposed to them. Politics in America these days is nothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:12 PM
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See? Reddit was right all along. The answer is always to cut all contact
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:23 PM
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It's a quantity over quality method at best It's like advertising. Ads only convert to a sale like 5-10% of the time but businesses do it anyway. Personally I hate ads.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:12 PM
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I don't want to get into the details of all that but it sounds like it's not working "perfectly" fine
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:08 PM
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I’m on guard around men I don’t know Nearly 85% of all victims of sexual assault knew the person who raped or assaulted them. https://police.charlotte.edu/safety/sexual-assault-prevention/reduce-risk-becoming-sexual-assault-victim/ Sounds like you're safer with men you don't know
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:09 PM
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It works perfectly fine because 99% of men are not predators and you've never run into an actual one. If you're planning on physically assaulting someone, do you really care what their opinions and body language are? Or do you think you're intimidating them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:07 PM
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I agree the two are closely related but there is a subtle difference. The "reddit nice guy" as featured on /r/niceguys believes the contract is enforceable and gets upset when he can't collect. Also I don't think it's just feminists who spread this idea. It's pervasive. Traditional women call it chivalry or being a gentleman. Beauty and the Beast isn't really a feminist story.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:38 AM
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The looks thing aside I think this sub is reasonably well-moderated, especially considering the types of people it attracts. You get angry bitter people from both genders, and then some people who are just here to laugh at them or bully them. It's one of the few subreddits left on reddit I know of where opposing viewpoints are tolerated. The rest of reddit is a complete echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:29 PM
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Nice try but I'm not letting you twist what I said. Despite what feminists say it is indeed possible for a man to just be a good person and believe they are a good person without having some initial expectation of getting laid. It's called being raised right. Besides let's dig into this. Why even tell someone to be polite, respectful, honest, etc. if nothing good comes from it? Like why shouldn't I just cuss you out right now? Is it possible that it's better for human relationships to be nice? A…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:15 PM
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Let's be clear, the reddit "nice guy" terminology / meme is someone who thinks doing a favor forms an unspoken contract in which they are owed sex like some kind of porn plot. Then there are the blue pill actual nice guys who think you just have to be a good person and women will be attracted to that. For example maybe they see all the complaints about harassment, approaching etc. and back off while the "bad boys" don't give a fuck. The latter have the right to be frustrated because everyone fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 08:33 PM
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You're assuming you'll even be given a chance for a fair fight. Most criminals don't believe in fair fights. Maybe a female athlete with self defense training could defeat some out of shape dude. But my recommendation is that you kick them in the nuts and run. Assuming you didn't get cold cocked or a gun pointed at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:37 AM
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Everyone gets punished dating after 30 because the dating pool is a lot smaller. https://www.bgsu.edu/ncfmr/resources/data/family-profiles/juteau-age-variation-singlehood-young-adulthood-midlife-2022-fp-23-11.html
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:08 AM
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It sort of does invalidate the “core point” if you resort to inaccurate scare-mongering to make your argument. It "sort of" doesn't at all because the core point of the thread was that women maximize their chances of successful pregnancies by putting family first and career later. Unless you're disputing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:33 PM
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Ok and what am I supposed to do about that? There's 100+ replies. Being off by some percent doesn't even invalidate the core point, it's just a boring red herring to me. If you want to deny that fertility decreases with age while complications and defects go up and it's not gonna work out for everyone, I don't care. Best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:07 PM
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Actually, I did not expect people would just deny fertility decreases with age. I was expecting a discussion around the premise that fertility peaks young and careers/earnings peak late. When I googled the support groups for childless women it was jarring. And the government incentive prompt was based on a real thing in Japan because infertility is a real policy problem. But hey, shoot the messenger boss babe 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:54 PM
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Conception isn't the only factor in the real and rising phenomenon of involuntary/circumstantial childlessness. There are also pregnancy complications. And some women just are not finding a suitable partner in time. If you want to pretend the widespread decline in fertility rates is entirely by choice and poor planning or economic pressures are not factors, go right ahead. I'm only interested in honest discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 03:08 PM
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I mean... I like what I like, which is not what women like. It's the same reason I don't go to yoga classes. Are you suggesting I go be some skeevy fish out of water dude who's only there to get laid? If I go to shows I like then at least I have a good time. I think it's time to concede that bars and clubs are not the solution for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:41 AM
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Whenever I go to a bar, which is not often because I don't like alcohol, it's 70% male or worse so your odds are terrible. So basically real life Tinder. And everyone is just hanging out with their friends and not mingling. If you come alone that makes you a weirdo. When I go to shows or clubs the gender ratio is often worse because Taylor Swift isn't exactly my music. Most of the women are there because of their boyfriend. And then add in it's extremely fucking loud and hard to talk to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 08:45 PM
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I said there is no easy answer to this problem. All of those scenarios happen and more. It is possible for a couple to have compatible sex drives. As for women who end up with cheating, it's usually the ones who must have Chad at all costs. What is it that specifically bothers you about non-monogamy? It's usually not the case that a man gives equal attention to his wife and mistress. For me I would be bothered if I was in the traditional ideal where I am giving my wife princess treatment and she…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 02:52 AM
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Ok so you're making an argument for "subjective equality" which is a contradiction because equality is a mathematical term and math is objective logic. I think your best move is to reframe this into general satisfaction with a division of labor in much the same way traditional relationships work because you've essentially abandoned the position of equality by refusing to prove and defend it. In fact, we've all agreed that meticulously striving towards exact and true equality is relationship pois…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 01:25 AM
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Your proposed method literally used a numeric comparison. What you are describing is keeping score. And then to make things worse you're saying that you should go with your feelings first because that's such an objective and fair guide. I'm not sure if you've noticed but people tend to be very biased when it comes to assessing workloads. I'm not saying this style cannot work, obviously a lot of people have made it work. But it's not ideal, it's more like a necessary evil in crapitalist economies…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 11:46 PM
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ideally you dont have to keep score and being in a flux of 60/40 one way and then 60/40 the other way is fine. but when you notice things are off balance, you have to fact check your feelings, not just assume your feelings are right or wrong. That is still keeping score. And an even division of chores is not the only factor in equality. what else are women supposed to do if men are not doing their share of chores? This conversation has flown over your head. The comparison was to a traditional re…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:56 PM
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Disappointing, that's a word. Do you think it's more or less disappointing than learning that you'll never be fully satisfied in a relationship or life? Re: expectations, it would be the idea that you're (probably?) still better off than if you were single. On the woman's end, expectations of complete monogamy/fidelity are probably too extreme if you're not getting the job done.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:44 PM
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Oh I know. But look on the bright side, men are easy to understand right? And women have basically been given cheat codes. Sadly these days women now use their powers for evil (OnlyFans). I have mixed feelings about the "go your own way" sentiment. It's obviously not an ideal solution. There's a trace of nihilism in there which always has an acrid taste for me. If women can't just suck it up (pun intended) and do their wifely duties then maybe we just need to just lower expectations on both ends…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:14 PM
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Upvoted for boobmatized. Incompatible sex drives are a problem with no obvious solution but I don't agree with your proposal to crawl under a rock and die.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:29 PM
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I've only been coming here a few weeks and don't think I'll be interested much longer, but my thinking on these topics has evolved as a result of reflection on these discussions. If you're having trouble with dating, it's most likely because you're holding yourself to too low of a standard and making excuses because you don't want to do the work. Female sexuality has some similarities with mine that I didn't realize and this makes it easier to understand. The internet presents a lot of distorted…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:59 PM
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I agree with this. Modern men are not to blame. Our society has shifted in a way where there are conflicting expectations. I don't blame men for being the way they are, our society has shunned traditional masculinity and made a traditional relationship dynamic nearly impossible to attain. And the problem, to me, is that no strong replacement has been delivered. They say "equal relationship." First of all absolute equality is hard to achieve even in lab conditions. And how do you even know if som…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:56 PM
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You've just demonstrated why the new feminist model of equality is not good for relationships. Look at you two keeping score. It's like you two are already married. That's definitely a healthy relationship dynamic. Surely this will not lead to tensions and divorce in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:20 PM
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It should be renamed into /r/MenBeingJerks because that's what every post is about
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:09 PM
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You triggered a lot of guys with this but I think there's a lot of truth in what you said. I think most men are just getting by or trying to enjoy their life and don't know or care what they bring to a relationship or what women want. To be honest my priorities have been elsewhere too. And to be fair in the glorious new economy a lot of men cannot fulfill the traditional role anymore and cultural programming tells them it's wrong anyway. So you've got a lot of men who are essentially set adrift …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:01 PM
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To me “high quality” is someone kind, loyal, trustworthy and intelligent enough I can have good discussions with and also make me laugh. Those are the traits that matter in a lasting, loving relationship. This sounds like a blue pill take to me. I re-flaired to purple pill because I don't doubt that women are attracted to positive personality traits. But I also think there's a quiet part where looks and earnings are a bar to clear and women don't say it because they think it makes them look bad …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:08 PM
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Okay, so I have a question for you. If 80% of women don't have to bother with online dating but have no shortage of available male partners... Where are they getting their male partners and why aren't you in that pool?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:42 AM
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*The male experience on online dating. You are comparing your online dating experiences. Only like 20% of women claim to use online dating in surveys. The rest hate it and avoid it. The gender ratios on these apps back this up. I've decided it's more worthwhile to try and meet the 80% of women who are not chasing the 10's on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:15 AM
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Maybe I'm being misunderstood, I'm saying this is how you ensure there is no chance or at least the lowest probability that a man would cheat. Just because you haven't done those things doesn't mean they will cheat. But if you're relying entirely on someone's morals and not putting in any effort to choose wisely and maintain a healthy relationship, there is a danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 11:57 PM
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She asked if there's a way to ensure complete loyalty in a man and I told her the best way to think of. If you find it disturbing or you don't like then maybe that's the red pill for women. I guess the other way to ensure complete loyalty is if your dad is a mafia boss or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:44 PM
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"Complete loyalty" like Samwise Gamgee is a rare thing. Most people have a breaking point, man or woman. I don't know why your guy cheated on you. My thinking on this is that for a man to stay monogamous, his girl needs to be his exact physical type. So there's no point in cheating because he's not going to find anything better than what he has and it's not worth risking it. And it's important to try and keep things fresh too. If that's not enough, there may be some mental issue he has, some ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:34 PM
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So the job interview analogy is imperfect because you usually submit a resume before you get an interview, somebody posted an opening somewhere, it's a whole hiring committee etc. And besides I'm not saying either approach is invalid, I'm just saying it's not the best. Re: black pill, yes if you accept the "game red pill" then you've already invalidated black pill to the extent that anyone can con their way into getting laid. But when you call it "hope" it needs to be asked... Hope for what? At …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 07:36 PM
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Ok interesting, I can tell you are smarter than the average woman. So about your idea, I think an important clarification is that the difference between training to not be a pussy and training to be a creep is whether you're staring people down 🤣 In any case I don't like sending out signals because it's on the man to follow up on anything and I usually have nothing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 07:04 PM
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The "verbal interaction" (conversation) is also inauthentic. This is a big problem I have with cold approach and I might start a thread about it. Basically, most people are not that charismatic. The advice is to be very confident and funny and all this but it's all a front. No one's personality is "on" all the time. It's like the Robin Williams phenomenon. Jester maxxing just makes you feel dead inside because no one has accepted the real you. This is actually part of what spawned black pill bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:39 PM
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I think it's hard to interpret and a poor quality signal. People also look away because staring is rude. I avoid eye contact with women I find unattractive because I don't want to send false signals (I also avoid eye contact with women I find really attractive because I'm a pussy). You are totally right that it's possible to present yourself too attractively though. The counterargument from modern women these days is they don't want "normal" men, they want only the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:26 PM
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Yeah, because cold approach is still a bad way to form a relationship regardless of who's doing it. You are approaching based on one thing: looks. Meeting people organically through friends and acquaintances is the most solid way to form a relationship. These connections have also decayed in modern society which is a big reason why modern dating is hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:21 PM
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No, the idea that this is "exploitation" is something made up by rejected western feminists because it's the only way they can attack it. Offering someone a fantastic deal is not exploitation. It needs to be understood that it crosses into exploitation if you treat someone poorly or worse than you would treat others because you hold some kind of power over them. And I think that's the contentious part. Most "passport bros" are doing it because they find the western dating market too hard or can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:06 PM
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I think we need to be really careful about how we define exploitation. A classic example would be price gouging of food and water in a natural disaster. This is something people need for survival, they don't have much choice, they are in an awful bind, and you raised your price knowing this. Another example would be blackmail where you are threatening harm. In both cases the common factor is that people are in some kind of danger if they don't take your deal. But people who put themselves on onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:29 PM
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Since when? Red pill has become conventional wisdom, and now blue pill is gaslighting and saying they agreed with it all along. That's the whole point of the post as far as I can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:12 PM
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Yes, I do think one of the biggest problems in modern culture is the rejection of long held standards. An example would be the body positivity movement. Both men and women are holding themselves to low standards, while holding others to higher standards. The result is a lower quality dating pool overall, and lots of things that could've been but weren't because somebody didn't want to put the work into themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:08 PM
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Behave differently? It's not hard to distinguish yourself from other women. Women are just so brainwashed by bad advice from the "femisphere" that they all act the same. If you're not in need of their money then offer to split. If you think you're equal then act like it, don't put everything on the man and stop being entitled. Fleshlights can't say no, but you can if you're not a Fleshlight. I guarantee you this will cause you to gain the respect of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:43 PM
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I'm not saying it's rare, and I'm not trying to say you aren't. I'm just saying it's also fairly common for women to have bad personalities. Determining which is which is the point of dating afterall. It is said that women are the gatekeepers to sex and men are the gatekeepers to relationships. Think about that. Men try to win you over so they can have sex with you. If women want relationships, then they have to win the man over. They have to prove they have more personality than a Fleshlight.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:32 PM
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What if I told you it's on you to prove to a man that you are more than just a glorified sex toy? I'm sorry but you don't all have beautiful and wonderful personalities. If you want a relationship then you need to make the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:16 PM
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I love how people in this subreddit just volunteer to be examples of what's wrong with modern dating culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:03 PM
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You are going to change a man. The only way you won't change a man is if you never have a long term relationship with a man. Even shorter relationships change people by the scars they leave. I'm not saying you should try to take a pile of shit and try to turn it into a pile of gold. You can take a small pile of gold and turn it into a much bigger pile. And recognize that if your pile of gold turns into a pile of shit, you had something to do with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:36 PM
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This is true, women do love their bullshit. Look at how they fall for astrology and pinterest quote boards. Did you know "con man" is short for "confidence man"? Women are literally looking for someone to con them. Unfortunately, I have a bullshit allergy. I view narcissism, self-delusion, and arrogance as very negative traits and I avoid them in myself. This is why I'm unsuccessful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:01 PM
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Cold approach is a trash tier strategy. You are on the same level of a door-to-door salesman or a spammer when you do this. Just develop your social network and stop worrying about playing their stupid games.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:41 PM
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That is true of business investing, but I think we are starting to torture this metaphor. We really need to establish what are "solid fundamentals" in a relationship. Stuff like the 666 rule is just unrealistic garbage, it's like taming a unicorn and terrible dating advice. To me the "solid foundation" is shared values, goals and interests, a good attitude and good character etc. So a girl could be a little chubby but if she's my type and she has the right attitude towards health and fitness I g…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:58 PM
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I took a red pill, and then I took another red pill. Oh god I think I have a pill addiction D:
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:38 PM
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That's where the part about finding a good foundation is key, and the first step. If you're good, you've added value to the relationship that they lose if they walk away. In good relationships, walking away looks like an insanely dumb decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:00 PM
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That's how it always starts, there's no such thing as love at first sight. Every relationship starts by seeing potential in someone and then you confirm via dating whether this is true or false. You only start to unlock their potential when you commit to a relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:54 PM
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Yes there are negatives to being a "high value" (very attractive) woman. One would be lots of unwanted attention. This can range from annoyances, to deception, to just not being able to have normal relationships with men because they all keep falling for you. This could even jeopardize your long term relationship because of all the temptation and jealousy. If you're not mentally strong then you'll leave a path of drama and chaos. But personally I don't like this "high value man/woman" terminolog…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:31 PM
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You don't understand because you don't do math. Yes there are men who like "BBW's" but they are unusual and not nearly enough of them to go around for all the fatties in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:43 AM
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Not true. It's just that the effort women have to put in all happens before you meet them. Staying in shape, being fashionable, working on their own mental health etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:04 AM
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It's useless non-advice. It's only true if you already have a very active social life and you're getting invites to lots of parties where you meet new people. If that's the case then do you really need the advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:15 AM
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We did, but then they started calling it the patriarchy and misogyny and it was made illegal. See: all male country clubs or the US government outright persecuting manosphere content.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:07 PM
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Marriages of convenience were the norm before the 20th century. Before the 20th century, wives were also expected to serve their husband and divorce was illegal unless you could prove cause. Only a man who is desperate to have children would do this. And it won't be many, because men do not have the same biological drive for this as women. Ask all the kids whose dads went out for a pack of cigarettes. This is dumb as hell and is not going to be a mainstream solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:27 PM
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Okay so personally I don't see this as a "red flag," but it does give me less confidence the relationship will last. There's the whole "alpha widow" theory which I think has some truth to it, if she's had a lot of partners chances are one of them was better than you and she's always going to be longing for that. There's biological angles to this. If a woman sleeps with a lot of men, she knows the child is hers but the man doesn't, which scares guys off for obvious reasons. So it makes more sense…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:04 AM
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Because men are allowed to have standards for their long term partner too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:21 AM
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This looks like outsourced trolling to me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 10:50 PM
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Most men just want somebody willing to touch them because for most men no one is willing to do that. You know, I might have agreed with you until you put it like that. I'm gonna say speak for yourself on that one, bud. I reject women all the time. I have no delusions about this. And I know I'm not the only one. And I'm not setting an unattainable physical standard. But when 40% of America is obese, that rules out a lot of people. And yes I am not obese and I have the right to expect the same lev…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:00 PM
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Baggage is when past experiences cause you to make more mistakes because you're emotionally damaged, out of control, and you're spreading that damage to others. Wisdom is when you've learned from past mistakes and are able to avoid them. Instead of spreading damage you spread that wisdom and you're not hurting yourself or others. What you're describing is baggage. If you're going through breakup after breakup you haven't learned anything and you have no wisdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:57 PM
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"Enjoy the decline" is something said by people who are full of shit. If they had conviction in their beliefs they would not be enjoying it. Also that whole "I don't give a shit" and "nothing can touch me" 🤣 when the economy grinds to a halt and social security fails because there's not enough workers and all your sugar daddy's money becomes hyperinflated and worthless, we'll check in.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:40 PM
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Yeah, because men are smart and the relationship is in fact "threatened" by this dynamic, it is a recipe for failure. Women all say they want someone who earns more than them, and all the data backs this up. It's not pretty what happens in relationships when the woman makes more. The only woman you can trust to be a provider is your mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:25 PM
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You think there's no difference between women who refuse to use dating apps and those who use them? Personally I would much rather date a woman who doesn't use dating apps. Women on dating apps are much more likely to be hypergamous, looking for hookups, or have their expectations completely ruined by the unrealistic world of online dating. Fortunately, most women don't use dating apps. And really, think about it, people who go on dating apps are probably having trouble finding dates naturally a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:52 AM
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The more I think about it, the more I think that women's sexuality is mostly the same as men, except for that weird cringey part where the man has to make more money than you. And I know that at least for me as a man, once the looks bar has been cleared there's a lot of things a woman can say or do to make me way more attracted to her. I think this is how it works for women too. Unfortunately, in my experience 99% of the time they either show no personality or show a bad personality. Unless they…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:48 AM
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And I'm not particularly sad about it. It's like the reality of death. Ok you sound pretty sad about it. Just know that the relationship and bond itself is what makes people special to you. Even the people you say you fell out of love with are still special to you because they were somehow a unique part of your life. And yeah, this is why guys say body count matters, older women with baggage are not wife material, and hypergamy is killing society. When you're constantly evaluating people based s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:34 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35fiNZTVVtU
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:23 PM
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Counterpoint: ick
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:22 AM
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Yup, makes you wonder who in this comment thread is the Russian or Chinese agent 🤣 They knew how easy it was to set this all off because humans are so superficial and naturally bigoted and tribalistic. And they're still doing it despite Xi's hilarious promises a couple days ago. The other thing is the extreme left and extreme right actually feed off each other symbiotically. They both say stupid shit constantly, so the other side takes it and puts it on blast, in hopes of radicalizing more to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 11:20 PM
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It is a documented fact that Russia and China stirred up identity warfare for the 2016 election. This was documented by congressional investigations and the FBI, uncovering their psy ops campaigns in places like Facebook. The other thing is that corporations and rich elites did not like being targeted by things like Occupy Wall Street and Bernie Sanders. So when new narratives of identity warfare presented themselves, they happily chose that one over the other. Now no one talks about taxing the …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:25 AM
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If you're already in the same group that's not a "cold" approach. You've got introductions, and in activity groups interaction is expected and sometimes basically required. The problem with this from my POV is that men and women have different interests so groups tend to be male or female dominated. Friend groups tend to be insular and stagnant, the pool is very limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:47 PM
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I agree, radical political ideology poses a threat to basic human rights. Radical left ideology has pushed large and growing numbers into far-right camps. Donald Trump, Giorgia Meloni and Geert Wilders are only the beginning, just wait until AFD and the National Front take over. Biden is getting destroyed in current polls. Pretty soon every G7 country will be ruled by the hard right. So thanks for ruining democracy I guess? You admitted you had all your rights and you could have just been happy …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:25 PM
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Congrats, you just summarized DEI, the thing championed by feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:58 PM
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Ok, and it's pretty clear at this point modern feminism is just a power grab by any and all means necessary. Women have all the rights they could ask for. You can argue for ulterior motives all day and I can do the same but I don't think that's productive conversation. What can't be denied is the metrics and trends are terrible. Single motherhood, rates of singleness in general, fertility rates are all going in a bad direction. I don't think there's ever going back to a society where women can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:27 PM
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OP I'm gonna give you some legit advice. It sounds like you aren't ugly, if you're thin then you're already better than the average American woman. You're right that Australia will be harder because it isn't full of chubsters like America. I will never take a yoga class. I have trouble meeting people too and it's because men and women practically have segregated hobbies. If you did something like sports or board games you'd meet more guys than yoga. Also I know a little secret: you don't have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:40 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmP1ier3R30 This is why. Posted 8 years ago. It's way worse now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:40 PM
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Ehhh, it's not a good deal for Chad either. If you're hot then you can get all the pussy you want from the apps. Believe it or not but Chad can get rejected IRL a lot, too. Why go to the trouble?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:24 PM
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Lol I think I'll pass
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:56 PM
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I feel like I just stepped on a mine. Thanks for being the perfect example of dealing with a sexist individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:45 PM
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Yeah, this is the danger. A very sexist person will have a lot of negative stereotypes and triggers and it could be like walking through a minefield. On the other hand, if you navigate the minefield successfully, the person is more likely to be loyal because they'll think you're their best option and won't have a "grass is greener" mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:07 PM
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Women have a stronger herd instinct than men because they are more vulnerable. Breaking from the herd is more dangerous for women, exemplified by women being afraid to walk alone at night. The herd instinct is a well-documented phenomenon of people "following the crowd" or "monkey see, monkey do" even when it doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:57 PM
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It used to be called a faux pas. Now it's called "an ick" and that makes it seem new, so people are freaking out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:03 PM
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Two things raised the bar: dating apps and feminism. Women have this enormous illusion of choice due to dating apps now, they match with guys way out of their league and now think this means that's their true league. The other is that with women making more money while at the same time demanding that men make more money than them, the bar is raised to increasingly unrealistic levels. As the average income for women goes up, more men become undateable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 02:56 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmP1ier3R30
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:13 PM
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This is delusional. If you're not attractive, cold approaching lots of women will have the same result as online dating: lots and lots of rejections. Women don't have more leverage over the men they're attracted to. In fact they have less leverage than they've ever had, because these men now have 100s and 1000s of equally delusional, easy options thanks to online dating. I suggest you revise your approach to one based on reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:10 PM
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Assuming you're correct, and Maslow's hierarchy of needs says you are not, you only made the argument for hookup culture. Not relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:21 PM
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What's the difference between your boss or company wielding power over you and your husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 09:38 PM
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Women are more resistant to egalitarianism than men. Most women expect men to make the first move, pay for the first date, do all the pursuing and be the one to propose marriage, and make more money than them. If women truly embraced egalitarianism and treated men fairly then there would be less divide. Right now men look at your "egalitarianism" as women having it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:54 PM
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I agree that the most likely outcome is that in 5-10 years, when AI girlfriends and sex robots start to become good, they will make the divide permanent. Relationships with women were never a good deal for men. Financially, they are a huge burden on men. Even today, despite all the feminism, women insist on men being the primary earner in the relationship. Men are expected to physically protect women and have often lost their lives fulfilling that role. For what? Nagging and a dead bedroom? Unle…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:52 PM
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I definitely would not "take anyone" and I doubt your friend really means that. I choose to be alone rather than in bad company and I've definitely had plenty of choices in bad company that I've turned down. If you choose the wrong spouse they can easily ruin your whole life. Dating is just a shitshow right now due to several factors combining together: the pandemic, dating apps, feminism, and the general trend of social disconnection. I think the best thing we can do as men is stay strong, adap…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:10 AM
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The term creep is way over-used but this is a case where it really applies
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:50 AM
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There is a selection effect because women reach for divorce papers a lot faster than men. Men have a higher tolerance for abuse for various reasons like "emotional unavailability." Women are nowadays taught not to tolerate anything from men and leave ASAP. I wouldn't advocate for men to create even more divorces though. My mother verbally abused my father when I was young and if he stood up for himself my family would have been destroyed. They've since worked it out and are happily married now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 10:00 PM
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Wow, you've literally materialized in writing your amazing female ability to hear something completely different than what is actually being said
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:03 PM
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If you have a subreddit where people do almost nothing but post instances of one group being bad, it's a hate group. You are using these individual instances to paint a whole group. Let me ask you this: if TwoX was posting all these stories about bad things people do, but it was entirely stories about black men, would it still be okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:37 PM
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Yes and I think you can partly blame reddit and mainstream media for censoring red pill, because it forced red pill to find a new home that would tolerate it, which is conservative media. So a mixing is taking place and doubtlessly the original red pill people are being influenced by them. I also think red pill and feminism are very similar in that they both started out with reasonable motives, but both are getting co-opted and corrupted by angry and bitter people with impure motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:28 PM
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The "selective radicalization sympathy phenomenon?" I think that's a new one. Is that like how modern feminism is basically a hate group aimed at men but gets broad acceptance in the media because women are harmless and routinely defeated by spiders?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:03 PM
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Ok cool thanks for the depressing story
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:16 AM
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Actually the theory given for this one is basically a carrot and stick model. If the man cannot provide value through his earnings, he needs to resort to fear and threats to keep the woman in the relationship, which is the goal of abusive spouses.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:21 AM
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I recently heard a few from Chris Williamson's podcast that were pretty stunning: Birth control has led to higher rates of single motherhood Pay inequality (where the man makes more) positively correlates with the happiness of a relationship Women are more likely to be victims of domestic violence in a relationship if they make more money
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:00 PM
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It's just so precious. I don't see feminists lobbying to be garbage collectors, port-a-potty suppliers, police officers, and so on. Nope, they just want to be CEOs and presidents. You don't understand the mental toughness required to be a man because you just want to skip all the hard parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:40 PM
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Ironically this "nice guy" hate feeds the red pill movement. Being nice / having a good personality is definitively not the way to get a woman, being good looking and having money is. If you have that, you can be an asshole and get away with everything and women will keep flocking to you. And then you see all these women posting their sad stories about how they got used and abused by Chad, blame men and deny all responsibility for their own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:11 PM
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Oh here comes the misandrist dog whistles. I get that you hate masculinity because you have no idea what it's like to be a man. Do you think they have time for your little group therapy sessions in the trenches of Ukraine?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 06:19 PM
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Yeah, and "nice guy" is a rebrand of "chivalry" and "gentleman." And they ask why chivalry is dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:53 PM
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Why do men not tell other men to be vulnerable men mock people for crying Do you think these two are related?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:52 PM
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I can't believe people are arguing against the idea that attractive people are successful in dating and unattractive people are not. The Matrix is real. Is this how you raise your social credit score?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:32 PM
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Because men have the experience that whenever they whine or cry about something, they get mocked and criticized. Usually by women. You can see it all over this subreddit. Men having feelings, desires, and standards is consistently invalidated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:21 PM
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It's possible to be "too nice" if you're a doormat or a pushover. Women don't want a man who is spineless and always caves because that is a sign of weakness and that he'll be bad as a protector. But standing your ground on something doesn't make you an asshole. I doubt that a woman would be turned off by random acts of kindness unless it's so much, so often, and so unreciprocated that it comes off as desperate and low self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 03:05 AM
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This is very common in dating advice. People always try to avoid giving the hard truths, because it's uncomfortable and potentially insulting. That's the exact idea of the red pill: disturbing and uncomfortable truths. It point blank tells guys you're too ugly and you don't make enough money. Therapists or other professional "advice givers" won't tell you this because they don't want to insult and turn away clients. Confronting hard, scary, disturbing truths is how to achieve major growth as a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:34 PM
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That's it. If you've got money and you don't care if the girl is into you or not and you just want sex, get a hooker. More variety, less trouble, and you don't have to worry about someone taking half when they inevitably get bored of you and try to trade up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:43 AM
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So... Funny story about that. A girl came up and talked to me in a bar a couple weeks ago. I ended up telling her the story of how I bought my house which I thought was a really entertaining story. Obviously it wasn't because she got rid of me and went to talk to some other dude who was slightly more attractive than me. She was unusual because most of the time women don't approach me. When I go for it, there is no conversation, I get swatted away like a fly. What am I supposed to do? "Wait wait …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 02:25 AM
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Yeah. I don't think this gets you nearly as much as you think it does. First of all the workplace is a bad place to find dates. Male-dominated professions (and hobbies) exist. I work from home. I dragged myself into the office all last year to "put myself out there" and without going into details it was a waste of time. I've concluded that looks are everything in today's dating culture, man or woman. Looks are the first test, if you don't pass it then you don't get to take the second test, nothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 01:43 AM
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Because people are swiping on photos not income data. I mean really... "Hi I make $XXX,XXX, wanna hang out?"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 11:30 PM
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The ironic part of all this is that by constantly playing the victim, women are emotionally manipulating men. They are putting out their damsel in distress signals to summon the white knights to attack other males for them. And ultimately they are working against their own best interests by falling for this over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:15 PM
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Coincidentally, the world is become more unstable, the risk of war is escalating, and fascist groups are on the rise. Sadly it seems biology has rigged things to doom humanity to death and violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:18 PM
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Sadly, it works. Our society likes to reward victims and punish people who take responsibility for their own situation. Their strategy is literally to whine their way to the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:32 PM
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I didn't say or imply men and women struggle equally in dating. All I said is that social media breeds unhealthy mindsets. If you don't agree with that, it's not worth arguing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:57 PM
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Wait a sec... did you play Witcher 3? Swamp witches can be pretty attractive. That's how they get you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:55 PM
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Social media / reddit attracts people who are less socially connected and therefore have more problems with dating. It's bitter, antisocial, angry men arguing with bitter, antisocial, angry women. It just makes them more bitter and angry. This same phenomenon applies to politics on social media too. Then you add in the fact trolls and rage baiting / click baiting thrives online, this adds to a distorted picture of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:37 PM
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They think Chad hasn't seen this behavior before. Catching feelings, wanting more, trying to grow the relationship into more than sex when they've already told you they don't want commitment. They know exactly what you're doing and it's pathetic to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:51 PM
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Interesting how you didn't say "you need to show causation" to the OP's assertion/rant. Maybe stop destroying science's reputation with your "science pill" and change your tag to blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:40 PM
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"They're only being nice because they want a ring." Ask all the husbands whose wives stopped having sex with them after they got married.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:37 PM
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tfw you realize the true red flag is social media... and you're on social media
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:38 PM
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If there's a better option out there for her, why wouldn't she take it? (and I'm not just talking about another man). Women are realising that they can expect more from a man. They can get a job and support themselves - they don't need to put up with a hopeless man who does nothing to help them other than provide a salary. Just quoting this so they can't edit it out later. Read this post guys. This is the loyalty and gratitude you can expect from modern women. This is the attitude they take to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 03:51 AM
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This is something that is going to happen more and more. The media is telling women they deserve everything, they can have any guy they want, men are the bad guys etc. etc. If your woman appears to have accepted that programming I suggest you don't invest in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 02:08 AM
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My man, I'm gonna blow your mind here: you are "bothered" by approaching women just as much or more than they are. Afterall, you're the one here posting a thread about it. And the reason it bothers you and them has nothing to do with all these lame excuses and lies women are telling you. If the women you wanted to approach found you attractive, you would have definite signals and you wouldn't feel bothered by it. And neither would they. You're inflating an issue that only exists because you want…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:05 PM
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It makes no sense for a man to settle. First of all your dating value over age isn't decreasing at nearly the rate a woman's does. Very much in relation to that, you have no biological pressure with respect to infertility. And lastly in today's culture, if you're attractive enough you can find someone to bang pretty easily. The only reasons a man should settle is if he suffers from some sort of crippling loneliness that affects his mental health or he just really wants to live the family life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:30 PM
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They're all like this. I'm not surprised by the responses at all. This generation of women is truly lost to the streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:43 AM
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Do I disagree with or "reject" men who are a lot bigger than me or even in positions of power over me? Yes, all the time. I've never felt any fear or negative repercussions because I stay within the boundaries of proper and civil conduct and they therefore feel obligated to do the same. It's actually a beautiful thing if you think about it. By being uncivil you're increasing the danger in some cases. Do men get "cold approached" by other, possibly dangerous men? Yeah sometimes if they're selling…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:08 AM
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That's another filthy blue pill lie. People are excited and happy if somebody they're attracted to approaches them, unless they really fuck things up or say something rude. They are anxious and stressed because it's a cold approach and they are trying to figure out how to get rid of somebody and don't know how. That whole "appropriately and in appropriate settings." It's a cold approach. This is by definition something outside of normal social behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 09:42 PM
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Hence why I'm good at it. You're not good at anything but being a desperate approval seeking pussy with no self-respect. You have no right to determine who someone reacts to your action. Yeah actually I do. That's called basic standards of civility and respect. For example calling somebody an incel out of nowhere might get you a broken face if we were speaking in person. This is how people learn to watch their mouth and be respectful in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 08:25 PM
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Off key? Yeah because the media narrative is that all women are queens and boss babes, they can do no wrong etc. so you are shocked to see any form of criticism. You seem like a beta male feminist to me who will only ever make excuses for women, no matter how bad their behavior is, and thereby promote more bad behavior. Also you slid in the word "combative." Rejecting someone doesn't have to be "combative." Just say you have a boyfriend and he wouldn't like it if I gave out my number. It's a whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 08:15 PM
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Problem with that is women are too spineless and terrified to even reject you gracefully. They just give you really nervous and stressed body language or try to brush you off or something and it's all very rude. Who wants to deal with people like that? Not me. I have great and fun conversations with random men 9/10 times and I'm just being friendly, same things as I do with women. What can I say? Mental illness is a huge and growing problem among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 07:23 PM
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Please don’t say women only like it when it’s a high value man or an alpha Sounds like somebody got his answers already and he's not happy with them. Let's see where that goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:57 PM
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Yeah this is why you're going to be discarded. Your ability to warp everything into a feminist lens as men being oppressive patriarchs is not conducive to a good relationship with men. He was referring to a behavior known as "complaining," not to a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:03 PM
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This question feels a bit insecure but... Are committed relationships in trouble in modern society? Yes. Is it because women age? No. It's because of modern culture. A lot of modern men have realized they are valued mostly for their looks and money. That's already a pretty jaded viewpoint. So if they have that, hookup culture makes younger and more attractive women readily available. And due to changes in women's attitudes brought about by feminism, a lot of men don't feel appreciated in their r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 03:20 PM
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Caring about men's issues is now considered terrorism. No wonder the metrics for men are so bad. Or maybe the manosphere will tend to be anti-Biden so he's just doing this to help his dubious chances of re-election.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 01:11 AM
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Because the media and bad advice from women have shaped a narrative that you just have to be nice and chivalrous and have things in common or whatever and women will fall for you. It's unsettling when you realize society has been lying to you your whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 09:39 PM
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Yeah, imagine being an American internet woman and not being a delusional man-hating psycho, it's awful
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:56 PM
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I guess you haven't heard of the "are we dating the same man" Facebook groups where hypergamous women can basically just slander individual men with no repercussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:54 PM
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Huh, I watched one of her videos where she called herself a 5. So now I'm wondering what made her think she went up/down a point. Also I don't know why you think that's funny. I think she's rating herself reasonably accurately as far as looks go. IMO if you do an overall rating including personality she's way higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:49 PM
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Human nature is a simplistic explanation and doesn't take into account that dating culture hasn't always been this bad. The red pill just updates dating strategy for the modern world, it doesn't say this is the only way things can be. The blue pill was more true in the past. First of all dating apps have made it so easy for women to connect with 10's that they've given women the idea they could actually end up with one. But it's all an illusion because they're just 1 of 1000 matches sitting on h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 11:28 AM
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Wow, either no one has any idea what any of these things mean or they're just being completely disingenious and biased
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 02:15 AM
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/thread
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:04 PM
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You are the perfect example of a delusional misandrist. I can't find any comments saying women should have their rights taken away. In fact most of the comments are about men being wife beaters. Since you clearly have no idea what men think or are talking about with this thread I'll help you out. It refers to the fact that women are less fit, attractive, loving and appreciative than in the past. While at the same time they've raised their standards to obnoxious things like the 666 rule. It ain't…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:03 PM
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Men will fuck almost anything, but they won't marry just anybody. It's not hard to understand. As for what is a "red flag" for marriage this will vary by the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:41 PM
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Yeah and today's beauty standards for women are now "fat is beautiful." Really weird how you all preach body positivity for women but for men it's "stop complaining."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 02:27 PM
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It's 100% true. Today's western women have been fed a buffet of feminist delusion that tells them they're all 10's and men are all garbage. As a result we now have a whole generation of women with unrealistic standards who are obnoxiously misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 02:22 PM
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Just don't bother with in-person approaching. Modern women are only interested in high value men regardless of whether it's online or in-person. If you're high value, you'll have plenty of success on hookup apps with way less hassle than going out somewhere and trying to score. If you're not high value, you're wasting your time in any arena.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 06:02 AM
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Maybe he's willing to do all this stuff because he realizes he can't get by on his looks
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:19 PM
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Corporate marketing emails? Aka spamming? At least video games require actual skills.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/05/20 09:24 PM
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If men can't decide what's sexist, doesn't that just give them a free pass to be sexist all the time? After all, if we are unable to tell what is sexist and is not, how can we be blamed for being sexist?
/r/PussyPassDenied24/11/19 06:45 PM
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