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This is already happening in the U.S. with ICE agents...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:20 PM
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Bro sitting over here acting like he's the only dude with female friends because he had an awkward childhood and then a glow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:13 AM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 12:45 PM
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That sounds condescending.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 12:16 PM
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I agree, that for me emotional connection is important to sex, I dont find others behaviors sexual behavior "disgusting". Unless it has to do to bringing a life into an unprepared/ready home.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 12:02 PM
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That sounds transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 11:59 AM
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My theory is a lot of this has to do with outward class appearance. It seems like a lot of modern dating has become a battle of class appearance. Appear better than you are and maybe better things will happen for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 10:52 AM
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That sounds almost vengeful and and accusatory...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:10 AM
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I thought women had tremendously better emotional support networks?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:45 PM
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I've got women on reddit to admit they're eugenicists at heart. Their only argument was, "what, you expect me to fuck ugly dudes?"
/r/MensRights24/04/25 10:43 AM
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I'm pretty sure this will have the exact opposite effect as intended.
/r/MensRights24/03/25 02:16 PM
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The United States is not currently at a replacement birthrate. And it's currently and for some years been supplemented by illegal immigration. But no one wants to talk about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:16 PM
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The juice ain't worth the squeeze.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 10:58 AM
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And that's a basis for what? I want you to spell it out explicitly.
/r/MensRights16/11/24 05:40 PM
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"Vulva Diversity" - it's literally the headline of your own post...
/r/MensRights16/11/24 11:03 AM
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How prevalent is this?
/r/MensRights16/11/24 10:03 AM
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This isn't a right or left thing. This is a matter of bad parenting and lack of community.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:20 PM
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Parents and people in their local community should be appealing to young men. The fact that you're asking the question means they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:29 PM
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Ok, eugenicist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 04:02 PM
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Who is "they?"
/r/MensRights01/11/24 06:49 PM
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=/=
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:07 AM
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No, she wouldn't be my first pick. But Trump is a colossal waste of space.
/r/MensRights21/10/24 06:30 PM
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We? You speak for every single person in this sub? First that's egoistical least and at best would mean how old-school fascist this sub has become AT worst.
/r/MensRights21/10/24 03:41 PM
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I'm about to unsubscribe to this sub. It's infested with far right propaganda bullshit that only looks at far right nonsense. Go ahead vote for the fascist. I actually hope he wins just so you can see how wrong you were.
/r/MensRights21/10/24 02:00 PM
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What's that supposed to mean?
/r/MensRights17/10/24 10:53 AM
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You underestimate how simple minded most people are. Most people don't know the world beyond their front porch.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:20 PM
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No, troll farms and AI bots are ruining the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 10:00 PM
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There is so much bullshit going on in the world, that if this your greatest concern, good luck to you...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:24 AM
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That sounds like really internalized and selfish thinking. Like, it doesn't matter what men think and do, but only how women feel about it. It's like men are just there to please women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:50 AM
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Well, if you don't understand the reasoning and keep asking men to answer, perhaps you shouldn't comment on it unless it's asking just that. In my opinion, it's matter of intimacy, which is psychological and not physical release. I think women often downplay this aspect and try and dehumanize men like they are nothing more than starved animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:18 AM
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No, men want to orgasm. That's what releases dopamine and oxytocin and causes pleasure in the brain. Men can accomplish this without having sex with unattractive women. So, what's the missing x factor?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:42 PM
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No, you're missing the point. Clearly it is something. Otherwise they wouldn't even bother. If the point is just to orgasm, men mastered that long ago. Maybe, just maybe, it's more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:53 PM
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If it's not anything "special" why wouldn't he just masturbate/use a Fleshlight/sex doll? Surely, that's easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:31 PM
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But it's fake... It's not an actual effort of health or improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:48 AM
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Couldn't say, I've never not been circumcised. I never had a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:41 PM
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That if men aren't grooming or being social enough. The implication is that men who are lonely and unsuccessful is something wrong with them and not something societal. It's the washing away from a greater problem that is oblivious to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:39 PM
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You don't want to say the quiet part out loud. That's great for social media but does nothing for advocacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:17 PM
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It's either gaslighting or severe naivety. You speak very much from a female perspective and assume it's the the same for men. Your principles are sound in a vacuum but ignore gender realities.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:00 PM
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Women are more predisposed towards inter-gender friendships. And men are naturally competitive towards one another making friendships more rare. So, this advice is dumb and ignores these obvious nuances in human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:23 PM
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That's mostly what this sub is: men and women gaslighting other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:20 PM
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They want a provider not a lover and some women think men can't be both.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:11 AM
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Welcome to the real world? It is completely insane, but that doesn't make it not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:09 AM
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Wut!? Your 3 examples are actually pro-women are wonderful effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:37 PM
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So what you're saying is women are inherently eugenicists.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:16 PM
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You can't "raise" your genetics... lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:09 AM
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But he loves me!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:57 PM
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Like most things in life you will be dealt a double-standard as man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:54 PM
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Be sure it's the greatest tool a woman never actually picked up with her hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:53 PM
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These are men who want to purchase their wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:31 PM
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What is even this post?!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 10:16 PM
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You really thought that waitress was flirting with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:03 PM
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Not centering your life around fcking women doesn't mean going MGTOW. Men have lives and pursuits outside of such childish single mindedness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:13 PM
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I cook every week. I use fresh ingredients from the grocery store. I have my own chef's knife and often make things from scratch. Last week I made sloppy Joe mix.
/r/MensRights02/07/24 08:24 AM
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It makes it easier, sure, but definitely not attracting the same level of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:45 AM
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Trigger princess.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:20 AM
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That's a lot of projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:19 AM
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I'll pump one out just for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 06:09 AM
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Ok, geneticist Nazi.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 06:04 AM
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What the shit attitude is that? Not wanting to have kids means they aren't the kind of people that should have them? Seriously, fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:39 AM
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Why do you think you're qualified to speak for everyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:55 AM
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But once you're dead, you're dead... You won't be alive to see it, so who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:53 AM
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Caveman must breed, bam bam knock woman over head. Do you even realize how you sound?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:52 AM
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Narcissism?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:49 AM
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Well without going into SA, let's just look at murder. Most murders are pre-meditated crimes of passion. They are crimes against people the murderer knows and has built up over time. Random murders are extremely rare outside of serial killers, which I'm sure the FBI has stats on, but I know it is very rare (I have several family members who worked in law enforcement).
/r/MensRights12/06/24 01:01 PM
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This is not productive at all...
/r/MensRights12/06/24 04:33 AM
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Umm tbf, if there are any patriarchal societies left, it's within Islam...
/r/MensRights02/06/24 07:48 AM
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Thats a great insight, I've obseverved the same. I don't know what the solution is, maybe it's more grassroots, who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:12 PM
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Yea it is hard to spars this out because there are a lot of grifters, but take it for what it's worth. I still go out where I live to eat and experience live theater, but it's mostly old people or young tourists, not locals. But that could just be a local phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:58 PM
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There are many articles and thoughts on the loss of "3rd spaces" but here is just one I found from a quick search: https://theweek.com/culture-life/third-places-disappearing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:34 PM
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Amen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 12:07 AM
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It's an easy thing to prove it's bigotry. Just replace it with black man, gay person, jew and it all falls apart.
/r/MensRights21/05/24 11:33 PM
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Yea, that could be true. I was only speaking anecdotally.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:40 PM
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Probably married because they were already successful. What I've noticed from my friends over the years is that after they become married, they become complacent, especially in regard to job advancement/prospects and their health - yes they get fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 08:57 AM
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Perception without reality is called paranoia.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:18 PM
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What do you mean play nice? You mean throw civility and conversation out the window and resort to name calling like a child? Come on, we're better than that.
/r/MensRights09/05/24 04:10 PM
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Couldn't agree more.
/r/MensRights09/05/24 04:08 PM
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At some point a man has to ask himself, does he want a fuck-doll or a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:26 PM
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Look, our group gets criticized enough for being misogynists and woman haters. And while there is some merit here on OP's post, most of these comments I'm seeing aren't doing the movement any justice. All I'm saying is, sometimes you gotta play politics.
/r/MensRights09/05/24 02:47 PM
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I'm in my 30s and I wouldn't date a girl in her 20s because it's very unlikely we'd have anything in common. A drunken one night stand at best, if that. Maybe there's one outlier who is an "old soul" and more mature than the rest in her age group. But that's talking about unicorns. Date someone who fits you at that particular time in your life. Stop worrying about what other people say you should be doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:47 AM
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https://imgur.com/gallery/HlhRL7I
/r/MensRights08/05/24 11:56 PM
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Yea but OP is wrong because that was never the original scenario, which is what OP referenced in the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:50 PM
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First off, its being alone/lost in the woods with a bear or man, not trapped. But either way, according to your logic the odds are the same either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:37 PM
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That's an irrelevant distinction. The analogy is talking about likelihood. In which case frequency of encounters matters greatly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:15 PM
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How often are they around bears compared to men? The math actually doesn't check out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:15 PM
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Saying the cause is because of "the left" I believe is just too much of a generalization. I don't think feminists and their sympathizers make up the majority opinion, even on the left. I think its mostly the bystander effect. There's a lot of people who disagree but not enough to get involved. That's leaves the flood gates open for feminists to run roughshod in the courts and in politics giving them undue influence. And let's be honest, I don't exactly see the right organizing en mass to advocat…
/r/MensRights08/05/24 08:40 AM
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Sorry you're getting down voted, but I completely agree.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 10:01 PM
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Which is hilarious because most women I meet come off as entitled children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:40 PM
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It's an easy solution - just need to become bear fuckers.
/r/MensRights02/05/24 02:37 PM
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But virtually everywhere else, women will universally say, "but I'm only attracted to what I'm attracted to."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 01:08 PM
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Women just need to date and get impregnated with the top 10% of men exclusively so we can create a society of Übermensch. /s Oh wait, are women secretly Nazis? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:34 PM
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I'm a pure introvert, but I find selective socializing very important. You need to not get too comfortable alone. Find reasons to socialize in scenarios you find comfortable. And don't be afraid of not doesn't go well. Not every experience goes well. You try and hope it does, that's part of being alive. More often than not I think you will have a good experience, especially if you try.
/r/MensRights25/04/24 02:04 PM
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Stick a man and a woman alone in a room long enough... Stupid argument. Are we talking end of the world scenarios here, or what. Yea perspectives change when your options are limited that's the whole point of privilege... You clearly haven't been paying attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:22 PM
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What does being liberal have to do with any of this? Frankly I'm tired of the MRM being framed as a right wing movement. Liberal here, it's not.
/r/MensRights20/04/24 08:46 AM
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But you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 02:33 PM
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If you need a women as your only motivation for self improvement, then you're already fcked.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:19 PM
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Always record everything.
/r/MensRights17/04/24 08:32 AM
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Depends on where you live. Some places even just cohabitating for long enough can be considered "married" in a case for alimony/child support.
/r/MensRights16/04/24 01:30 PM
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Personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:08 AM
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Have you ever met a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:01 PM
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Many women feel this way on any given day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:00 PM
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You didn't read the pill above you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:39 PM
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Sure, it guess it would help if we defined our terms more to help better communicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 09:41 PM
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It wasn't casual in the past as much as you think. A lot of it was through planned marriages and elsewise didn't matter because men were sent off to die in war and maidens forced to have babies. Yea, I don't think you know what the fck you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 09:22 PM
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This is copypasta
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 09:19 PM
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You can't even cohabitate for too long in some states without being considered "married" in a certain sense.
/r/MensRights06/04/24 07:10 PM
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https://www.webmd.com/sex/features/sex-drive-how-do-men-women-compare
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:50 PM
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Can you cite some studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:48 PM
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In today's world? Pfft, not really. You're living in the past. As far as orgasm that can be solved through communication, education and therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:43 PM
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Lower libido and stronger bonds? As opposed to men? This sounds like misandry. Fine, go fly off into a planetary colony of only women and experience eternal happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:42 PM
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It's not JUST about kids. You missed the other totally relevant part of that equation. Lacking traditional relationships and having children, it's a matter of sex, which women can maneuver far more easily than men in current social dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:32 PM
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Yea, most men should of learned this in high school. If you didn't, you are blinded either by ignorance or horniness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:19 PM
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I find it fascinating the way you frame this. Women being put on a pedestal couldn't respect themselves, is how I would put it. But framing men as the perpetrators has always been more popular, even though women are the choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 11:16 AM
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I wouldn't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 06:52 PM
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Fine. Settled.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 06:50 PM
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What is it exactly that you want ask me?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 06:09 PM
-1

Men don't exist without women and vice versus.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 06:07 PM
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And we disagree here how?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 06:05 PM
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I'm sorry, who are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 06:04 PM
0

Anti man sentiment comes from mostly men? That's a hot take. Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 06:03 PM
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Explain what exacty?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 05:19 PM
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I don't hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 05:17 PM
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What are you asking exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 05:11 PM
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You frame men as inherently weak from the git-go.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 04:57 PM
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Why is this framed at men specifically? I think you're more anti-man than you realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 04:53 PM
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I like the Alien franchise.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 04:31 PM
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I agree to a certain extent but we must be better than that. We aren't going gain any ground with pure hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 04:30 PM
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Whatever works for you. I'm happy that you found an out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 04:28 PM
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Likewise.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 04:04 PM
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What you mean is equality means what you want it to mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 04:04 PM
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How long did you wait to expunge your diatribe?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 03:24 PM
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More diatribe. Blah blah blah. Actually make an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 03:20 PM
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Are you really trying to defy equality in a relationship? I suggest a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 03:02 PM
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I look as it is unwelcome. Like most women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 02:59 PM
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What is this diatribe other than support my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 02:57 PM
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Like you haven't?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 02:55 PM
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That's still sad. A relationship should be equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 02:53 PM
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It's gotten gay guys to hit on me more.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 02:10 PM
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Sounds like a slave rather than a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 02:09 PM
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Loving it. Everyone else are haters or grifters.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 10:58 PM
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Watch for trigger traps bros. OF is everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 05:31 PM
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Tdlr: men are just unattractive. So get fucked. You're just an asshole. And no one should listen to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 07:27 AM
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But still have to take care of a child...
/r/MensRights15/03/24 02:29 PM
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Why is it profitable for a woman to lie? That is the real question.
/r/MensRights15/03/24 01:53 PM
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Why is it profitable for a woman to lie? That is the real question.
/r/MensRights15/03/24 01:53 PM
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Why is profitable for a woman to lie? That is the real question.
/r/MensRights15/03/24 01:53 PM
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Why is profitable for a woman to lie? That is the real question.
/r/MensRights15/03/24 01:53 PM
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Not so much new as it is basic and learned early in life
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:54 AM
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This is like post-high school dating 101. How is this new?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:23 AM
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Pretty sure that also proves my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 04:36 PM
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I think you just made my point for me, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 04:23 PM
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You completely missed the point. And podcasters capitalizing on it. THATs the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 04:11 PM
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Small world things happen in small world realms.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 10:04 AM
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I'm doing just fine, thanks.
/r/MensRights11/03/24 06:03 PM
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I don't really care to get into the implications of it all. Thats entirely your case.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 07:44 AM
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I mainly just lurk here, but I gotta just make this one point. I view this options thing as very simple. There are many analogies to how the access to the variety of choices is what entirely dictates a person's view of what is valuable and what is not. You could look at ancient tribal societies vs any modern civilization. You could at 3rd world countries vs 1st world countries. You could look at rich vs poor. Access and lack of access warps a person's view of what is, in this case, attractive vs…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:39 AM
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Women are actually welcome on mensrights whereas men are clearly not welcome on twoxchromosomes. Stop trying to pedal that narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 03:33 PM
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You can't just ignore it. This kind of thinking worms it's way into everyday life.
/r/MensRights07/02/24 03:56 PM
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Women saying most men are ugly is a propaganda tool utilized by extreme feminists in order to get a leg up and a seat at the bargaining table.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:25 AM
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It's been less than an hour and you are ready to dismiss out of hand. Thanks but I think that's all I need to know about you. Maybe you need to get off this kind of discussion, because you seem too obsessed to be healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:56 AM
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This sounds like misandry...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:21 AM
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Gotta keep men in their place or they might break loose! Why does this sound so familiar?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:17 AM
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Your first sentence and last sentence seem to be contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:39 PM
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I wholeheartedly agree and thing this sub should shift, at least a bit, towards more healthy male bonding exercises.
/r/MensRights03/02/24 03:49 AM
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Spoiled rotten.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:11 PM
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Nor is he. (In this hypothetical)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:48 AM
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Social media is so toxic these days. There must be a better system.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:31 PM
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One is detached and distant from a safe space and the other isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 09:31 AM
2

Right, I got that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 09:30 AM
1

Why not what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:46 AM
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Posting pics on social media and going to night clubs dressed scantily are not even close to the same thing. That's what the OPs premise was.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:27 AM
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Your point is solid but doesn't go far enough. As if dressing vulgar and liking a pic on the internet of someone dressed vulgar are even remotely similar. They are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:25 AM
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Benevolent sexism.
/r/MensRights20/11/23 09:19 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 03:30 PM
9

I'm decently attractive and well off and I still don't see the benefit of engaging women romantically. (cis male). My workplace favors women with less specific and overall work experience because the director has a history of doing so. The director is also new to the company compared to me by 7 years.
/r/MensRights08/10/23 08:25 PM
2

I find the ones who phrase conversations this way are usually the ones who are doing it themselves. Self-projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 07:26 AM
0

If we could get close to the AI in the movie Her. Then yes...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:44 AM
7

Yea, you just agreed with each other...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:43 AM
1

What I learned long ago is that some of the most attractive people are often the most boring. Because they never had to be. When I was young and stupid I thought it was me, and then I learned it wasn't. I was just chasing boring people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:33 AM
3

How are you going to date a surfer and get mad when she goes to the beach and wears bikinis? Literal clown behavior. So what? Who cares if he made a stupid choice. People make stupid choices all the time. If Jonah wanted a conservative woman he could've easily done that but he chose her and tried to change and control her. That's what people have a problem with. He wasn't trying to control her, thats why he backed out of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:50 AM
1

Get your own car.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:04 PM
5

When you're starving, anything tastes good. That doesn't mean you aren't starving.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:21 AM
1

Shit, they should do a survey on this or something...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:35 PM
1

And yourself for comparison?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 08:52 PM
1

Classic Bulverism.
/r/MensRights09/10/21 08:35 PM
0

What's going on has nothing to do with liberalism. It's extremism.
/r/MensRights04/10/21 12:25 PM
2

.....
/r/MensRights21/09/21 09:59 AM
1

To tame the male. In order to tame a horse, you first have to break it's spirit.
/r/MensRights19/09/21 10:00 AM
2

Do you have cameras at your work? If you don't, immediately petition the company to put some in place. Secondly, consult a lawyer immediately.
/r/MensRights09/09/21 05:45 PM
8

It's been their deflection the whole time. It's an age old stragetgy. Divide and conquer. It's comically predictable for anyone who has read any bit of history.
/r/MensRights27/07/21 06:06 PM
18

This whole thing can be summed up as spoiled and privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 08:27 PM
3

Yes equality of outcome is always worse than equality of opportunity.
/r/MensRights17/04/21 07:46 PM
1

How are eggs expensive and sperm cheap?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 12:48 AM
1

This isn't new though...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 08:06 PM
3

You reveal yourself. Great.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 09:47 PM
1

You reveal yourself. Great.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 09:47 PM
5

I don't give more and receive less when I have to. If you're saying men are subservient, then I say fuck you. We. Don't. Need. You.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 09:33 PM
37

That's literally what he said.
/r/MensRights24/01/21 09:57 PM
1

I'll just leave this here. Supply and demand. The implications are obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 08:25 PM
14

That's definiton 1. 2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
/r/MensRights10/01/21 03:02 PM
20

Ok, help me understand. I'm fine with being wrong and learning.
/r/MensRights10/01/21 09:33 AM
35

Also known as fascism.
/r/MensRights10/01/21 08:05 AM
3

And she can always change her mind...
/r/MensRights02/01/21 07:27 AM
9

Yea, its called post-moderism. They think everything is subjective and there is no such thing as objective truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:52 PM
7

I firmly believe this is true for most, if not all ideologies and institutions.
/r/MensRights13/10/20 06:44 PM
1

Yea, maybe. I just don't see the humor in downplaying the issue for comedic effect, then immediately going back to being serious.. it just seems odd. Why not play straight faced the whole way and then maybe add something humorous at the end to lighten the mood. It just seems off as it is...
/r/MensRights02/07/20 09:55 AM
1

Well doesn't the opposite express the point more explicitly? Like, despite this advantage, whether true or not, men are still killing themselves at greater numbers? Or am I just missing something?
/r/MensRights02/07/20 08:18 AM
12

3rd and 4th wave feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 10:48 AM
1

L'Oreal should team up with Gillette.
/r/MensRights28/05/20 10:19 PM
2

/thread
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 07:28 AM
1

Radical left. I've been a liberal progressive for decades and the the left today is drastically different...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 04:52 AM
1

Did you also think Tatiana was real?
/r/MensRights12/04/20 02:07 PM
1

If that's your biggest concern why not go out there and try and find it? Do you think it would be that hard?
/r/MensRights10/04/20 10:40 PM
2

Both words are terms of endearment. Gentlemen, this is a war of language. The people doing things like this are actively engaging in doublespeak.
/r/MensRights25/02/20 12:17 AM
10

Tell that to Amber Heard...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 02:47 PM
2

This is where modern feminism gets it completely wrong. Equality of outcome versus equality of opportunity. Opportunity is what's fair and equatible. Outcome is an unfair privelege.
/r/MensRights06/02/20 04:06 AM
1

Cool story bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 01:59 AM
1

I don't know you. You could be a crazy person for all I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 04:50 PM
0

That's all still in the realm of made up, as in, didn't form in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 10:27 AM
9

All sports are made up...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 04:39 AM
1

Men: then make your own clothes Her: imagine if you had to do everything yourself #patriarchy Men: I already do. It's called being a man
/r/MGTOW27/04/19 08:09 PM
19

Joe Rogan also did a podcast with the authors a while back
/r/MensRights30/03/19 02:12 PM
1

The top comments in this thread... lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 07:00 PM
1

I wasn't using it, I was talking about it and it's importance. Don't pretend like you care about people misusing it, especially when you know damn well that's not what I'm doing. Quit the pendantry, it's sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 08:21 PM
1

Running around, you mean one other person? So let's add hyperbole to the list here. You know what I'm saying because I've explained several times. If you want to live in cognitive dissonance where you believe due process exists in some kind vacuum, that's your perogative. But you don't understand it's value, because to you, it's just a legal term, which says everything we need to know about you on this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 07:11 PM
1

I never said it was. You're arguing symantics because you know I'm right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 07:05 PM
1

Way to out yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 07:04 PM
1

I don't think that's entirely unreasonable. And aren't exclusively my values, they are the values of anyone who understands, respects and appreciates due process. Otherwise complete hypocrisy. I'm not advocating extending due process as you say. I'm saying this kind of conversation should be happening more in order to quell the side effects. Such as people being fired from their job because of a Tweet. Sure, companies have the right to do so, but that doesn't mean we should be ok with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 06:12 PM
1

Im saying that people should have more self restraint and respect the idea behind due process instead of jumping the gun. And I'm also saying we should shame such individuals and explain to them why this is bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 06:02 PM
1

Or the Salem Witch Trials, Drumhead trials where soldiers would be executed without any defense or form of appeal, also Lynch hangings of African Americans in and around the American Civil War. To name a few..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 06:00 PM
1

Right because mob justice(private actors) isn't and never was a thing and never played any part in the creation of due process.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 05:56 PM
1

I'm sorry did just refer to due process as an entity?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 05:49 PM
1

Not just government, but to people too. Government afterall is just people. It's not just some monolith entity. It's people. And I'm not saying people don't have the right to speak their mind, I'm saying they're wrong and disrespecting something that generations fought hard for to prevent unfair judgement and punishment. What is so hard to understand about this? It's not convoluted, it's precisely why it exists in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 05:46 PM
1

It's not just a legal term. It exists for a very good reason to combat the very thing you're saying it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 05:40 PM
1

Right which means people who act outraged without knowing the facts or giving a person a chance to defend themselves are disrespecting the spirit and purpose of due process. It's either hypocritical or ignorance, neither which are good things. I'm surprised I'm forced to explain this. It's kind of scary, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 05:38 PM
1

Right, or to put it simply, not being judged unfairly before the facts. You know as opposed to opinions...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 05:29 PM
1

And it's not justification and that's precisely the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 03:25 PM
3

That's not what trial by public opinion means. I get the feeling you're being intentionally dense. It means causing harm to someone's life via public outrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 03:24 PM
1

Such a shame...
/r/MensRights03/02/18 03:07 PM
8

You mean innocent until proven guilty, one of the main tennents of modern day justice? lol
/r/MensRights03/02/18 02:22 PM
1

That's because you and people like you don't understand the idea behind due process, i.e. reserving judgement until the facts come out and are verified. This is precisely what leads to witch hunts and "trial by public opinion." It's dangerous and has significant real life consequences. We're you never taught this in school?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 01:15 PM
13

I literally just overheard two women in my apartment complex say, "men are fucking assholes.." and the other one, "yea they are".
/r/MensRights14/11/16 03:21 PM
18

I made this very argument and was immediately banned from that subreddit.
/r/MGTOW10/09/14 02:50 AM
11

Don't read the comments in that /r/Games thread either, unless you want to piss yourself off. Nothing but white-knights in that subreddit.
/r/MensRights07/09/14 03:57 PM
2

And yet obesity is still an epidemic and heart disease is still the #1 killer in this country. But what do facts matter?
/r/MensRights31/08/14 11:08 PM
5

Well said!
/r/MensRights28/08/14 05:11 PM
46

Falsely claiming misogyny is a slight against all men.
/r/MensRights28/08/14 04:20 PM
38

And that's the root of the problem. Sex not as form of mutual pleasure, but a tool to manipulate the other gender.
/r/MensRights28/08/14 04:18 PM
4

Joe Rogan is about the farthest thing from MGTOW. Just listen to his podcast. He bashes on dudes all day long. Marriage is the only thing he's gotten right.
/r/MGTOW28/08/14 03:26 PM
-1

"Hamster" is a Red Pill term... I've got my eye on you... lol, j/k
/r/MensRights22/08/14 03:32 AM
2

This is what happens when you let Feminism go too far.
/r/MensRights16/08/14 06:52 PM
-1

Yea, because that was the moral of the story... How about this: we live in a culture too obsessed with materialism and not enough with family and values. 57 upvotes for you and everyone's already missed the point. facepalm Now, this is irony.
/r/MensRights10/08/14 05:35 AM
47

Because that's a social power that women posses, the fact that they have a womb and carry the child for 9 months. This biological fact has given them certain privileges and slack by society. Now that power is potentially threatened to be obsolete by this new technology. That's why.
/r/MensRights07/08/14 06:43 PM
3

Are you saying that we, as a society, place a higher value on injured women as opposed to injured men?
/r/MensRights30/06/14 08:24 PM
0

Trick or analogy?
/r/MensRights30/06/14 09:00 AM
2

People who purposefully try to bring left/right politics into gender issues probably have an agenda.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 11:38 AM
11

Preach it sista!
/r/MensRights29/05/14 02:04 PM
1

Ok, maybe not scared, but concerned? That wasn't meant to question your character. It was sincere.
/r/MensRights26/05/14 03:56 PM
1

So you do it out fear of being judged as too one-sided?
/r/MensRights26/05/14 03:17 PM
3

The OP asked a gender specific question and you answered saying its both genders, as if to say that talking about the issue from gender's perspective somehow precludes the other gender from experiencing the same thing. In short, it seems like you missed the OP's question entirely by quickly segueing into the female perspective.
/r/MensRights26/05/14 02:35 PM
0

Does talking about one automatically imply the non-existence of the other? Gender-wise.
/r/MensRights26/05/14 02:13 PM
4

What is a man meeting?
/r/MensRights26/04/14 04:13 AM
36

Yea, its not like they did it for ratings or anything. Oh no, it must be part of some grand conspiracy to make rape socially acceptable. Yup, that must be it.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 12:25 AM
0

Because men can't be exploited, underprivileged, or in anyway disadvantaged without them being victims of their own oppression, a la teh Patriarchy. /s
/r/MensRights23/08/13 01:00 PM
3

I couldn't agree more. It is sad. But what can we do about it?
/r/MensRights20/08/13 12:10 PM
25

Haha, yea. I mean, its just one giant hypocrisy. Think about it, how can you preach equality and then only focus on one gender while not just ignoring, but in some cases, flat out denying that the other even has problems to begin with! It makes my head hurt.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 04:06 AM
1

I don't. We're talking about a specific group of feminists. I'm always willing to hear out a feminists on her views. Ill never dismiss someone based on a title alone.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 01:48 AM
5

Isn't that kind of true of everyone? In the sense that people are much more self-censored in person than on the internet?
/r/MensRights19/08/13 11:30 PM
5

The problem is you don't have to go looking to find these "assholes." They're everywhere. I have to go on a fucking scavenger hunt to find a reasonable, rationally minded feminist who is for true equality where men's issues aren't entirely framed as men being victims of their own oppression.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 10:25 PM
1

If no one is a victim, then how can inequality exist? On another note, doesn't throwing away the "victim mentality" imply that discrimination is something individuals can prevent/fight against? I mean, I think I see what you're getting at in terms of taking it too far to the point of absurdity and silliness, but does that justify viewing people as non-victims? Or is it simply a matter of terminology?
/r/MensRights19/08/13 09:59 PM
113

If they did truly want equality, there would have been a collective outcry from women and feminists alike, women who would be actively fighting against it. But there isn't, because they don't.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 08:51 PM
1

Thanks for your polite correction. Edited!
/r/MensRights17/08/13 07:17 PM
1

No one cares if a man dies unless he's someone of high status. /s
/r/MensRights17/08/13 05:45 PM
9

When a institution or movement is formed for a purpose, it's initial days are spent trying to fix that problem. When the institution or movement has accomplished that goal, does it simply cease to exist? No. Like any entity, it finds reasons to exist, nay, it fights for reasons to exist.
/r/MensRights17/08/13 04:09 PM
2

Gynosympathy.
/r/MensRights17/08/13 03:05 PM
4

That depends on your perspective. If you share a similar philosophy as those guys, then not an insult, otherwise yes, definitely an insult.
/r/MensRights20/07/13 10:51 PM
1

You would be right at home over at /r/TheRedPill.
/r/MensRights20/07/13 09:06 PM
2

In the end whether it falls into the "privilege" term or not is just semantics How is it semantics? It's clearly a relevant term here considering the evidence I've brought forth. The point is that it's their right to have free choice regarding who they want to be with, whether their expectations for a partner are too stupidly high or not. I think this statement is very revealing about the entitlement that so many women feel. I'm sorry, but no one has a choice to decide who they want to be with -…
/r/MensRights20/07/13 04:57 PM
2

Whether its granted or not is irrelevant. But it absolutely is a privilege at the cost of good men everywhere who can't find a decent woman because 80% of women are chasing the top 20% of men. This has been statistically documented on many dating websites. And it leaves a lot of men without hope for a compatible mate. And I'd argue that this is a dangerous formula to have a generation full of sexually/romantically disgruntled males with virtually no prospects. Perhaps this is part of the reason …
/r/MensRights18/07/13 04:07 PM
1

Then you don't understand hypergamy yet. I recommend reading the Wikipedia article here.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 05:24 PM
1

You're welcome. :-)
/r/MensRights14/07/13 05:22 PM
77

In the eyes of the law and social constructs men are second class citizens. Women are granted special privileges in all sort of ways from getting lower average sentencing for the same crime as men, all the way to having preferential selection in dating because of hypergamy. There's plenty more, but those are just the first two that always come to mind.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 09:26 PM
93

Welcome to the de-facto matriarchy. Enjoy your stay.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 07:21 PM
1

Couldn't have said it better myself. But what's the solution?
/r/MensRights03/07/13 01:23 AM
2

I somewhat agree with you. But unfortunately, Im still young and haven't had my fun yet. So until I've had my fill, I'm going to keep playing the game and if that means using psychological manipulation(using game) to fulfill my needs, then so be it. But after that, I'm right there with you.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/13 03:49 PM
13

The problem is they have too much social agency. There's a white-knight epidemic of sorts and that basically allows women the privilege to think and act this way. So, really I think we need to be shaming these pendantic enablers who are coddling these women, more than the women themselves. Think about it. If men were united against this cognitive dissonance that so many women display, then those women couldn't afford to be that way without being alone and without constant attention/ego-boosting.…
/r/TheRedPill29/06/13 05:48 AM
-1

So true.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/13 03:48 AM
3

Wtf, is that seriously what its about? What the hell kind of world are we living in?
/r/MensRights28/06/13 10:20 PM
2

Then you haven't been paying attention.
/r/MensRights28/06/13 10:19 PM
6

I was absolutely giddy reading this.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/13 10:55 PM
1

I couldn't agree more. The radfems don't even bother me that much. It's the men who support them that I can't fucking stand. White-knighting has become an epidemic, it seems.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 10:11 PM
1

It is if you speak it.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 10:55 PM
-2

Verbal, key word: verb I'm not sure where you went to school, but a moan does not constitute a verb.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 09:58 PM
1

That workplace uses co-ed toilets?
/r/MensRights22/06/13 06:38 PM
0

I am, but I don't agree with everything. I have criticisms as well as agreements. Its what I never understood about "game." It's all based on this idea that the male is inherently defunct and needs to improve based on a model standard of what women want you to be, I.e. submitting(re: being submissive) to their will/whims. Rather than turning it on them and saying, its they who should step up and better themselves. See what I'm saying?
/r/TheRedPill20/06/13 02:29 PM
-2

Then that's just lieing. And why should I placate her fantasy? Sounds submissive to me.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/13 02:19 PM
1

Yea, but isn't that just raising the bar? Wouldn't women just further select whatever becomes the new top 20%? Or in other words, how can every guy be in the top 20% category? Doesn't that kind of break statistics?
/r/TheRedPill20/06/13 02:14 PM
5

Stepping up your game is meaningless. You can't beat statistics. Unless women change, there will always be a 80/20 split.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/13 01:59 PM
9

That's just one of their many privileges. They don't ever have to answer rationally or take full responsibility in a relationship. Because.... women.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/13 03:43 PM
3

It doesn't have to make sense. Re: cognitive dissonance
/r/MensRights07/06/13 06:20 PM
12

Because it makes feminism look bad and they want to distance themselves from it. It's same the reason muslims aren't in outrage and taking up arms against the extremist terrorists that have hi-jacked their religion.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 05:55 PM
3

Sex is a commodity bestowed to us lowly men as a gift for our loyalty. Ever heard of the term, "brownie points?" Yea, it exists for a reason.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 07:37 PM
17

This is like the very definition of cognitive dissonance.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:09 PM
5

So does Reddit, for that matter.
/r/MensRights01/06/13 04:56 PM
10

Your story is confusing, you changed genders mid-story.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 06:55 PM
8

That's why I think men who support this radicalism are actually worse. Fucking white-knights. /joke
/r/MensRights30/05/13 11:34 PM
1

Where's your evidence to the contrary?
/r/MensRights29/05/13 01:44 PM
-2

Awesome. I will be printing this out and secretely posting it at work. (I work at a facility with mostly women)
/r/MensRights19/05/13 04:05 PM
2

I wish I had more info for you. Edit: why the downvotes?
/r/MensRights18/05/13 04:13 PM
5

That's just the world average, in some countries and regions, its a lot higher.
/r/MensRights18/05/13 03:46 PM
19

51%
/r/MensRights18/05/13 03:31 PM
2

You desperate to believe and hope bro?
/r/seduction16/05/13 07:19 AM
6

What scares me the most about this is how she used this atrocious tactic to get out of something so insignificant and petty as paying for a cab ride. Imagine what lengths someone like this might go through if the situation was something more serious. Additionally, mental illness? Really? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for helping and protecting the mentally ill, but this just seems like scapegoat.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 11:49 PM
0

Maybe, just maybe... there are more terrible stories than uplifting ones because that is how it is... perhaps its because there are, in fact, more horror stories, than inspiring ones. You see, its easy to blame one group for having tunnel vision, but its a hell of a lot harder to accept that maybe, these positive stories that you are looking for simply don't exist, or exist in very few number. As far as I'm concerned your attitude and approach towards this realization is tantamount to sticking y…
/r/MensRights27/04/13 01:56 PM
3

If anything, we need more people like you. To have that perspective of once being female and then becoming male, having both perspectives... invaluable. Of course there is a place here for you.
/r/MensRights27/04/13 01:48 PM
11

Puritan values are eternal.
/r/MensRights20/04/13 03:27 PM
3

And it does wonders for the public perception of mental illness. /s
/r/MensRights20/04/13 01:39 AM
6

I don't know where you get your information from, but most psychologists don't dismiss human biology as a factor in mental health. Again, educate yourself.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 09:59 PM
1

Perhaps. I don't really know.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 09:57 PM
4

Existing from birth, i.e. he's been an idiot since being in the uterus.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 08:28 PM
10

So is sex becomming one of those "the only way to win is not to play" type of scenarios? Because it sure as hell seems like it.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 07:28 PM
9

The main difference between a psychologist and a psychiatrist is the latter is an MD and legally permitted to prescribe federally scheduled pharmaceuticals and the other is not. So, its only a differentce of educational background where one has studied pharmacology and the other has not. However, both usually have a graduate degree, most often a doctorate, in psychology/psychotherapy. But medicine is only half the treatment for mental illnesses. Look at the statistics. Very few people benefit fr…
/r/MensRights19/04/13 07:24 PM
5

My psychologist is male. I've moved around the country quite a few times and out of the 12 or so different ones I've seen, only one has been female and she was originally from a different country.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 07:16 PM
2

You should. And I would help if needed.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 01:08 AM
5

Ive always suspected something like this existed.
/r/MensRights11/04/13 10:26 PM
3

GWW hypothesis?
/r/MensRights09/04/13 05:22 AM
20

Who wants to bet they would be just as likely to argue the opposite if Joe Rogan had been defending the transexual instead of the women. They targeted him because he's a popular male figure.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 09:58 PM
1

Why are you having a meeting on MRAs when it would probably serve all of you better to meet/talk about/police radical feminists who give your movement a bad name. You know, the ones who are actually speaking out the loudest and effecting policy/legislation.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 09:10 PM
1

Yea, they want it as tool of power to wield against men.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 04:11 PM
38

Not to mention it's a basic logic fallacy. Correlation doesn't necessarily imply causation. In other words just because most rapists who are convicted are men, doesn't mean that only men rape nor even the majority. There could very well be a bias against men in regard to these kinds of crimes. Which there most likely is.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 01:38 AM
-6

If you have to brag about it... It kind of defeats the point. This place is already enough of a circle jerk. Edit: all these downvotes -- case in point.
/r/seduction23/03/13 09:50 PM
-17

Want a cookie?
/r/seduction23/03/13 09:39 PM
2

How does one stop others from raping? I mean, unless I witness it, how can I possibly accomplish anything. I mean its not like rapists go around bragging about their exploits. And even if they did, you think they would listen? It doesn't make any sense.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 04:39 AM
3

You don't get to externalize responsibility because you have some class of illness. The use of "externalization" implies intent to deceive. I'm talking about people who literally can't control and/or have difficulty with their behavior. Autism, Schizophrenia, and Alzheimer's disease to name a few. Hell, in most states, temporary insanity is a defense position. But these are, of course, very much dependent upon the circumstances to justify and some cases have more merit than others. But I wholehe…
/r/MensRights16/03/13 10:44 PM
6

lol, wut?
/r/MensRights16/03/13 04:19 PM
82

Everyone is responsible for their own actions barring mental illness.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 03:42 PM
10

This fucking terrifies me.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 08:24 PM
3

White-knights
/r/MensRights08/03/13 05:27 PM
1

The title of major is incidental, the education required is the point. Quit splitting hairs.
/r/seduction03/03/13 03:53 PM
0

Not for taking the blame, no. And its a likely story. You're trying way too hard to try and convince me.
/r/seduction03/03/13 09:03 AM
0

That made absolutely no sense. To be involved in space travel, one would have to obtain a ton of education, far more than any of the examples so far.
/r/seduction03/03/13 08:36 AM
1

Still more complex. You can get degrees in nutrition and physical therapy. But you can't really say the same for charming people and being a genuine, honest person.
/r/seduction03/03/13 01:34 AM
1

The topics you compare this book to aren't even remotely close in terms of complexity. My argument was and still is that the concepts in this book are so rudamentary to adult life, that I find it to be patronizing, even if that's not the intent of the book.
/r/seduction03/03/13 01:23 AM
1

As guy14 said, thats Reddit for ya. If you go into a subreddit dedicated to a certain mantra and you interfere with their circle-jerk, than this is what one can expect. Reddiquette means nothing on Reddit apparently.
/r/seduction02/03/13 10:39 PM
1

Oh so you're gonna blame society instead of taking personal responsibility? That's very un-American. I'd say you've been far more pretentious and arogant than me. And at least I have an excuse. The point being that utilizing these tactics won't necessarily win you friends or convince people of whatever you want. What's yours?
/r/seduction02/03/13 09:00 PM
-2

I don't fucking think so. I have had a discussion with this guy, I will sum up his perspective for everyone else. 1) He hasn't read the whole book so he doesn't really know what it advocates. Even though it advocates being genuinely interested in people and changing your entire mentality toward others, this guy seems to think it's about lying through your teeth and using cheap 'social hacks' to manipulate people. You don't know how much of the book I've read and therefore you know exactly jack s…
/r/seduction02/03/13 08:56 PM
2

If you actually give shit, then why do you need a book to tell you how to show it? I tend to give people more credit than that, unless I sense they're trying to flatter my ego instead of giving me the cold, hard facts.
/r/seduction02/03/13 08:04 PM
2

I don't see it the same way as you. I lived with a guy who took this book to heart. And he was constantly trying to sell me on everything we talked about. And, I'm like, no dude. Not every opinion or way of thinking, not even just products and services, can be presented in a way that convinces people to buy into it. Evidence/logic > charm. And that's where most of my beef comes from.
/r/seduction02/03/13 07:57 PM
-1

Yea, I'm sorry you have such a pessimistic view of the world. But I don't.
/r/seduction02/03/13 07:43 PM
-2

Yea, its not a contradiction. Maybe you should read a dictionary. I can tell when people are trying too hard to sway me, as opposed to being genuine. It's all doublespeak for trying to use implied familiarity and other similiar tactics under the guise of niceness and genuine behavior.
/r/seduction02/03/13 07:42 PM
-4

Because of my disposition that this book is stating the obvious and giving the impression that this is anyhing but normal behavior. In other words, using words and phrasing that make this advice appear to be something its not.
/r/seduction02/03/13 07:38 PM
-1

What's funny is, instead of being nice and engaging, I'm getting downvotes and negative comments, well mostly. Take your own advice seddit!
/r/seduction02/03/13 07:36 PM
-2

Explain to me how this is fact? Because stating something is so doesn't necessarily make it so.
/r/seduction02/03/13 07:33 PM
-5

That's fair. I wish everyone didn't feel the need to post their disagreement when its already been stated by another user. Gang up on the lone dissenters. Real classy, /r/seduction. Maybe some of you should apply this book to yourselves instead of just praising it.(not referring to you guy14)
/r/seduction02/03/13 07:32 PM
-7

I do. And cherry picking my comments to make a point is as obvious and an insult to my intelligence, as this book.
/r/seduction02/03/13 07:29 PM
-1

I'm sorry, but that sounds like doublespeak to me.
/r/seduction02/03/13 07:27 PM
-2

You've just side-stepped my entire point. Being nice isn't patronizing, Duh. But writing an official book on the subject that discounts people's ability to figure this shit out naturally through the course interacting with people and learning from other's example, is patronizing.
/r/seduction02/03/13 07:14 PM
-10

I'm sorry that you've had such a bad experience with people in your life that you feel this book is some sort of ground-breaking read on what I would perceive to be normal behavior. People I talk to genuinely seem interested and if engaged with follow my lead. And I do the same when others engage me. There are rare exceptions and they're usually circumstantial. I've been in sales most of my early adult life with fairly good success with just plain honesty. My friend in college told me to read th…
/r/seduction02/03/13 07:11 PM
-17

If you think that's all its about, then that's like saying water is wet. Thanks Dale, for the obvious tips on how not to be a douche. Let's just assume that the population is mostly socially inept losers. Yea, that's not patronizing at all...
/r/seduction02/03/13 06:56 PM
-31

Seriously. This shit only works on the most dim-witted of people. If anyone tried this psychological manipulation on me, i'd just walk away. Give me a break, I can see right through people like this. Not to mention its patronizing and an insult to my social intelligence.
/r/seduction02/03/13 06:42 PM
0

u mad, bro?
/r/MensRights28/02/13 05:46 PM
-1

I didn't. :-)
/r/MensRights28/02/13 05:40 PM
-2

Shrugs I get a bug up my butt to make the arguments from time to time, but I typically don't bother, because I've learned after beating my head against that brick wall that it's a waste of time. In other words, you didn't bother because you didn't have a strong enough argument to begin with. Hmm, sounds familiar. "You're wrong and I'm right. Sorry, bro" is not an argument.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 01:37 PM
0

'You' as in the general form, not 'you' personally. I was referring to OP and people like him.
/r/seduction28/02/13 01:31 PM
-3

It's good to know you're full of shit.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 01:29 PM
-2

Your post history says otherwise. Nice try.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 08:16 AM
-3

I'll take that as concession that you lost the argument. You're shaming guys in the /r/MensRights sub. Seems kind of hypocritical. No idea why you're even in this sub to begin with. Probably just another white-knight sympathizer. You really are a douche and a half. BTW, nice downvote bots/accounts.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 06:02 AM
-2

Dude, you tracked drama through three seperate subreddits (askwomen, askmen, then mensrights). No, they followed me. Huge difference. I, in no way, enticed those people to my thread in /r/askmen. And the bit about my post in askwomen was a brief and minor one. The one who brought it up as a point of contention and dragged her fan club tag along was, in fact, /u/sehrah. Any point you may have had got lost in the shuffle when you kept harping on something that was already finished and done with I …
/r/MensRights28/02/13 05:55 AM
0

Presupposed success. And that's still no excuse for that behavior. If you think so, then you were probably already a douche to begin with.
/r/seduction28/02/13 01:31 AM
0

Wait, what?! My thread was a simple plug for this sub. The people who were attacking that thread and me were the pedantic ones. Belligerent too. No idea what thread you were reading. Edit: I'd also like to point out that "my thread" was posted to /r/SRD and that's where all the hate and downvotes came from. No need for acting like the victim, because I was clearly and specifically targeted.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 12:47 AM
3

Reminds me of that thread in /r/askmen where I supported/defended this sub, but got called hyper-sensitive and "whiny" not only by men and women there, but also from this sub. It's an insanely common dismissing tactic. The troubling bit is that so many people interpret that as /end-of-discussion.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 09:59 PM
0

Kind of hard to fight back when your comment gets posted to SRD and you subsequently get targeted by a downvote brigade.
/r/MensRights26/02/13 05:44 AM
-1

Dude, that's not cognitive dissonance. Yes it is. See, I can do it too. You are acting a bit paranoid - I haven't seen you accept a single opposing view, at ALL. Calling someone paranoid because you don't like someone is just a dismissing tactic and is no more true than yelling out, "the sky is red!" I haven't accepted most viewpoints because no one has given me a reason to. Truth is not determined by how many upvotes or downvotes you get. It's decided by discussion. But most of the negativity m…
/r/MensRights26/02/13 03:04 AM
-1

Haha, I call out a lack of solidarity, you call me paranoid and upset, then go on to talk about lack of diversity and unity. Downvote brigades aren't some conspiracy. They exist and many have been victim to them in many different subs. Ugh, your cognitive dissonance hurts my brain.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 11:04 PM
-2

Talk about full blown narcissist.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 10:53 PM
-1

Talk about full blown narcissist.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 10:49 PM
0

Talk about full blown narcissist.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 10:42 PM
-3

http://www.reddit.com/r/SehrahIsAwesome/comments/185pdi/welcome_new_members_tell_us_your_favourite_thing/
/r/MensRights25/02/13 10:40 PM
0

|/| <mirror>
/r/MensRights25/02/13 10:34 PM
-2

Yay, more bullshit to clean! And it'd not like it was on my first page of history, she specifically would of had to dig. Your submitted posts is 7 links long. Unless you deleted pages and pages of submitted links in the last 24 hours, it was on the first page of your submission history when she looked. No digging required at all other than clicking the "posted" tab. This is just a trivial distinction to justify seeking out personal info for nefarious purposes, which you obviously support. It doe…
/r/MensRights25/02/13 09:48 PM
-2

Omg, spare me the bullshit. I'm sure you didn't come here to nitpick my comments and to defend and justify known SRS trolls. Cool. So you're just another SRS follower. That's nice. Lolwut. Go take a look at my comment history (I won't call you a stalker, promise!). I've been active in this subreddit for a while. Not everyone criticising you is from SRS. If you don't realise that there really is no reasoning with you. No need to check your history, you obviously have been following my posts for r…
/r/MensRights25/02/13 09:15 PM
-5

Cool. So you're just another SRS follower. That's nice. There is an OkCupid subreddit that encourages self posts for critique and it was from over a year ago in my history. So, actually I do have a leg to stand on. What's really messed up is you trying to defend someone who was so against a particular redditor that they felt the need to go digging into their personal lives, as if this is an honorable quality. Despicable.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 08:35 PM
0

Dude, relax. You have too much invested in what I do. It's flattering, but creepy.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 08:10 PM
-2

Putting words in someone else's mouth to discredit them. Yea... I'm the nutt.... You try and feign integrity, but you have none.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 08:02 PM
-2

That depends entirely on what you information you seek out and what you do with it, doesn't it? Your snide attitude isnt subtle.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 08:00 PM
-1

Taken over, not taken down.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 02:11 PM
-2

I still have yet to see a valid criticism from any of the downvoters. In fact, everypost of mine downvoted has a huge percentage of non-commentors to downvotes. My comment history prior to this recent phenomena is the exact opposite. That's not suspicious at all... Funny how that works out with you talking about having a personal army. Because that's not what private subs are for - strategizing downvote hunting-parties all the while claiming a face of sincerity. Tactical to say the least. But ob…
/r/MensRights25/02/13 01:54 PM
-16

Downvoting isn't for determining who is right and who is wrong. That is what discussion is for. Read Reddiquette sometime. This must of been how early people reacted to being told the earth is round. You're just wrong!
/r/MensRights25/02/13 01:44 PM
-17

That's not what white-knight means. But its funny coming from someone who was an accomplice to online stalking(sought out my profile as well) and has a habit of chiming in with baseless accusations to defend well-known concern-trolls. Yea, welcome to the Internet, where being two-faced is easy. Kind of like Catholic priests and children. They care about the children. They care real hard.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 01:35 PM
-4

This is, more or less all bullshit, and she dead-well knows it. Barring a few exceptions. I could go on a rant about how the entire post here is nothing more than posturing; utilizing a giant strawman. And how just because you have an army of yes-men/women, that doesn't make you right. Because no rational person makes decisions that way. But I won't. Because you lost all credibility when you admitted to stalking. The end.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 07:57 AM
-19

Clearly, truth is determined by mass appeal. Just as clearly as how this is not, in fact, a logical fallacy.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 07:47 AM
-3

This is probably the most honest and on-point comment in this whole thread. Thanks for actually contributing and not just hopping on the hate-train.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 02:38 AM
-7

Cool. What awesome qualities to aspire to!
/r/MensRights25/02/13 02:30 AM
-1

They are in this thread, and apparently that means no support for members being berated in their own sub. Not exactly an appealing quality for new members, however they get recruited.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 02:15 AM
-5

Yea, I don't exactly call treating one of its own concerned members condescendingly and dismissing them as hysterical, a good definition of solidarity. More like herd-mentality. It's called tactfullness, and I see very little in this thread.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 02:09 AM
-2

I'm not specifically accusing you of all those things. ..he says as he accuses me of it in the previous comment: According to your logic, "all those things" = "it" - which is singular. Come on dude, where's your olive branch? You really are a piece of work, mixing in your bias with mainstream ideas so you don't get negative-karma spammed. So we've got baseless accusations, accusing me of both bandwagoning and now arguing in bad faith, and now we can add straight up lying to your list of sins. I'…
/r/MensRights25/02/13 02:03 AM
-7

Umm because were constantly accused of automatically dismissing any dissenting ideas and for using shaming tactics ourselves. Calling my concerns hysteria, is both. There is no precedent for someone expressing concern about defamation with the common response being hysteria. That is not a common reaction nor is it a rule of thumb anywhere I've lived. It's purely hyperbole and meant to make someone feel guilty and change their position. It's funny, because we call out feminists who do it, but her…
/r/MensRights25/02/13 01:47 AM
-7

You say this, but your actions show a different story. I'm not specifically accusing you of all those things. Just the bandwagon of people you were defending. You could convince me by engaging in legitimate and civil discourse and try to find out if all the hateful things are true or if I've just been painted that way. But you seem to have been bent on assuming I'm an intolerable douche who can't be reasoned with. Well I got news for ya. You don't build bridges by throwing fire.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 01:36 AM
-6

Says the guy who threw the first 'douche.' You really are a piece of work, mixing in your bias with mainstream ideas so you don't get negative-karma spammed. It's clever. But that doesn't give you the moral high ground. I've seen it all and I'm not going to lay down to intimidation from you or anyone else just because some people chime in with downvotes without bringing anything of substance to the table, or because people want toss around baseless assertions, and/or look up personal info in a p…
/r/MensRights25/02/13 01:27 AM
-3

The slander or libel, is not just a few extremists and not just from other subs. There are MANY and they seem to be trying to recruit sympathizers on a constant basis. Theyre also in this sub pretending to be members. It really is a sad state of affairs. And I reported all the suspicious visitors to my profile.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 01:16 AM
-6

Haha, read all the comments in this thread from supposed members. It's a shit-fest of condescension, personal attacks, and dismissal. The tops comments are saying don't worry, all the while trolls and sockpuppets stink up the thread. It would be quite comical if it wasn't so sad.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 01:11 AM
-9

Oh, yay, more bullshit to dismantle. Yes, because if they are going to just make claims without giving an example to defend against, then of course I'm gonna call out their integrity. You're being an obnoxious douche right now by defending those bigots and hate-mongers. Please, step back and see how asinine you're being. It's a disgrace.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 01:03 AM
-5

I think you're a douche for taking the easy route and hopping on the bandwagon for easy karma. I'm a douche for defending my self and this subreddit. !? Give me a break. I met my commentors with no more hostility than they gave me. In fact, I mostly just turned their own arguments around on them. So let me guess, you're another white-knight here to chime in for imaginary brownie points?
/r/MensRights25/02/13 12:56 AM
-6

When all you do is bring baseless and deceitful claims to the table, then yes, clearly you have ulterior motives. The fact that I have to explain this to you is pretty sad.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 12:52 AM
-5

This saddens me greatly. Well I guess they succeeded in at least one goal; they've managed to turn men against each other. Divide and conquer never fails I guess.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 12:50 AM
-11

Is it also business as usual to be hated by entire other subs, like /r/askmen and /r/askwomen? Is it business as usual for this sub to attack and hate on its own members? Because that's what I've been seeing.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 12:47 AM
-2

Yes. It's a person, generally guys, who placate and defend females(in this case feminist ideology) in some attempt to gain the moral high ground and in exchange for perceived rapport with said female(s) and other sympathizers. Yes, white-jackets and all.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 12:42 AM
-6

It's ridiculous, but they've already successfully taken over this subreddit apparently. Abandon ship!
/r/MensRights25/02/13 12:37 AM
-27

Wtf are you talking about. She went out of her way to find my profile and then create a profile of her own for the sole purpose of seeing mine. Good god, is hate to see what your criteria is for stalking. The person I'm accusing is a well known detractors and troll of this sub. Why on earth would condone her actions. This is lunacy.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 12:35 AM
-11

Nah, you have it backwards. They showed their true colors and white-knight sympathizers, like you, revealed themselves. It's sad really. They've conscripted members from our own gender against us. Insanity.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 12:30 AM
-16

Why? For defending myself against trolls and liars? Yea, ok boss. Redditor for one year and only 162 comment karma? Yea, your opinions are so much more popular than mine...
/r/MensRights25/02/13 12:18 AM
-11

Yea, I guess stuff like this doesn't matter. It's not like we have entire subreddits hating on us or anything... It's only a few scattered extremists, or so I'm told.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 12:11 AM
-8

Well that's certainly your opinion. While you and a lot of others have been complacent, the MRM has been the target of subterfuge. Concern-trolls, feminists parading around as MRAs, and white-knight sympathizers have infiltrated this subreddit, and I dare say outnumber the actual members. So you can continue to do nothing while the walls around you crumble, and the people around you become more toxic, but I won't.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 11:55 PM
-22

Case in point.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 11:37 PM
-4

I feel your pain. All this hate against the movement, all the subterfuge, and incessant attacks... they must be really scared of the status-quo changing. Hang in there.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 11:37 PM
-41

No, its people like you who want to lie deceive people about events, that give this subreddit a bad name. You're the lowest of low, really.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 11:27 PM
-36

Bullshit, you can. OkCupid only allows other OkCupid users to view your profile. Sehrah made an account for the sole purpose of seeing mine. It's doesn't get anymore clear cut than that, white-knight. Use your head instead of your penis to think next time.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 11:17 PM
-6

Actually it is. The reason you feel the need to disagree with bitter accusations, that's the discomfort than comes with holding conflicting ideas. State the opposite all you want. But you can't claim you're not apathetic and then go on to say you don't care. That's asinine.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 11:10 PM
-50

Wrong, wrong, wrong. You're nothing more than a placating white-knight who wants to miscontrue the truth. The fact of the matter was that I was berated and subjected to semantic corrections in order to derail the discussion and win imaginary credibility points. It's a rather sad display. If you have to go digging in peoples past to find an online profile, that's stalking. You can downplay all you want - you guys are fond of that. But its pissing into the wind. Next.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 11:06 PM
-3

Thanks for relating. Talk about a tough crowd.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 10:30 PM
-8

What you just described there is called cognitive dissonance. Holding two conflicting ideas without the ability to see the contradiction.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 10:29 PM
-7

It's a sad state of affairs.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 10:27 PM
-10

Yes, people often don't see what they don't want to see. If you read the other comments here, they are mostly of, "hey, let's not care what others say, because its not worth caring about." It doesnt get more apathetic than that.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 09:52 PM
-9

I have no idea what you're talking about. Commentor for two months, 1 comment history, incoherent reply, and 3 upvotes? Wtf? The trolls must be out in force.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 09:39 PM
-6

"Doesn't have the goal of appealing to everyone." Yea, no kidding.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 08:04 PM
-4

Perhaps you're right. It feels like submitting to a defeatist attitude though.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 07:58 PM
-19

I beg to differ.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 07:56 PM
-12

Isn't it obvious? It's a simple matter of speaking up. If it was so obvious/not obvious, the defamation wouldn't be riding the herd-mentality train like it does in a lot of large subreddits.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 07:44 PM
-16

Calling it hysteria is hyperbole and an attempt at shaming. So, no, it was not simply just that.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 07:39 PM
-6

The lack of solidarity in this thread is depressing.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 07:31 PM
4

That was the first thing I did. I would think that would be obvious.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 07:23 PM
0

I shouldn't have to. But no matter, it was a fruitless endeavor for her anyway.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 07:22 PM
-7

Having a bad reputation hinders the process of new members joining. This should be obvious. Apathy never won over anyone.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 07:21 PM
-18

Comments like this is why we are doubted. Standing up against defamation is not hysteria. Don't tell me we've resorted to shaming tactics in our own subreddit?
/r/MensRights24/02/13 07:20 PM
-1

It really is quite methodical.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 04:11 PM
2

Umm, if anything, I'd say its the other way around. I mean look at what guys are doing nowaways to get with the ladies; seduction communities, for example. They've got us chasing after them like each woman is the freakin' Fountain of Youth.
/r/MensRights22/02/13 02:03 PM
1

How did she react?
/r/MensRights20/02/13 02:48 PM
6

This post speaks to my heart so much it almost hurts. Thanks for having the courage and sensitivity to post your support here.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 03:25 PM
7

Touche.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 01:12 AM
10

I just can't get enough of how articulate and thought-provoking your responses are to this subject.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 12:32 AM
6

And it frustrates me to no end. Even everyday beautiful women tend to exhibit qualities like spoiled, bratty, easily offended, etc. because most men aren't willing to call them out on it in some sad hope that they might have a chance with her. Even their female friends won't because having a really attractive friend is considered appealing by association. Edit: I guess that's what happens when you build a culture around the idolization of pretty people.
/r/MensRights18/02/13 11:49 PM
4

"Rape accusation = guilty until proven innocent." Absolutely ludicrous.
/r/MensRights18/02/13 11:29 PM
4

LOL. I feel ya man. This subreddit is full of egotistical, arrogant, "nice guys" whose only real skill is posturing.
/r/seduction18/02/13 11:03 PM
0

I do have an impact. I engage members in the community in discussion all the time. Stop acting so butthurt just because your community is plagued with knuckle-dragging mouth breathers.
/r/seduction17/02/13 07:28 PM
0

Uh huh. No one asked you to put your face on the internet. But, if you had posted on an account that wasn't new and had the comment history to back it up, well... That'd be a different story.
/r/seduction17/02/13 03:12 PM
2

It's not a strawman at all. I see that kind of mentality all the time here. Obviously this is an exaggeration, but toned down, that attitude is very much prevalent here.
/r/seduction17/02/13 03:10 PM
2

Id be on Reddit all day reporting if I did that.
/r/seduction17/02/13 03:08 PM
2

Then you must not spend much time here, because that mentality is rampant here. And that certainly isn't what being a man is about.
/r/seduction17/02/13 08:44 AM
14

LOL. This. I've been fighting this ridiculous attitude in this subreddit for a long time now. Fucking over-macho, douchebags. If I ever caught someone talking like that to a dude who was feeling down, i'd fucking punch them in the face.
/r/seduction17/02/13 07:54 AM
0

I don't buy it. I think its more likely that you're long time male member of seduction who is trying to give off the illusion that women are apart of this movement. But the way guys here talk about women, why would they join up in its current state? This is all an elaborate ruse.
/r/seduction16/02/13 05:19 PM
1

It totally is. This account was created by one of the male members of seduction to give the illusion that women are apart of the seduction community, when in fact, they are not. But they should be. These are the kind of people in seduction: charlatans. This is just ridiculous. "I didn't want it on my main account." Bullshit. This sounds like it was written by a guy trying to sound like a girl.
/r/seduction16/02/13 05:17 PM
0

That's not true. Your arguments just lack sufficient examples/evidence to support your position. We're not really getting anywhere here and I'm starting to get annoyed at how you claim what I'm doing is actually what you're doing. Stop projecting.
/r/MensRights16/02/13 02:40 AM
0

Ok, you really want to do this? Fine. Let's begin. Again, you presume SO much and know SO little. Examples/evidence? Otherwise this is an empty assertion and ad hominem. I've exposed myself to plenty of information, enough to draw a conclusion based on facts. Examples/evidence? Again, empty assertions. That isn't circular at all, its linear. I'm denying nothing. Proof? Again, empty assertions. Are you saying that all people who claim global warming isn't happening the way Al Gore says it is are …
/r/MensRights15/02/13 10:06 PM
0

That sounds like conspiracy theorist's mindset. "I don't need to expose myself to new information that is contrary to what I believe, because I'm right already." Circular logic is circular. And its not about exhausting all avenues of information, but rather about denying historical context because it conflicts with your worldview. Like climate change/holocaust deniers. You should be ashamed.
/r/MensRights15/02/13 09:47 PM
-1

What did you expect? This behavior is ridiculous to begin with.
/r/seduction15/02/13 06:27 PM
0

How is it nonsense if you haven't even watched it? That in and of itself is nonsense. And its not a show, but an award winning documentary done by the BBC. You can use cliche and dismissive stereotypes all you want, but this is historical fact and not some conspiracy theory that some high school kids threw together in their spare time. I'm sorry if this conflicts with your worldview and understanding of free-will, but that's no reason to be belligerent.
/r/MensRights14/02/13 08:16 PM
4

This sounds like total BS. This guy is so full of himself, it made me cringe just reading it. He sounds like a "nice guy" himself.
/r/seduction14/02/13 05:46 PM
1

Desires can be manufactured. Advertising is just a form of psychological manipulation. You should watch a documentary called, "The Century of the Self." You can watch it on youtube. It goes into a lot of depth on how advertising and public relations came to be and how they utilized psychological distortion to manipulate people. If you don't want to believe that, fine. Ignorance is bliss afterall.
/r/MensRights13/02/13 03:15 PM
1

Yes, and that entity that you speak up is comprised of people who work in the advertising industry. "We advertise, you obey." Do you honestly think Valentine's Day would be as wide spread and popular if not for other people peddling themed products? I don't think so.
/r/MensRights12/02/13 05:35 PM
1

Sure they do. People, for the most part, are mindless followers.
/r/MensRights12/02/13 06:45 AM
-1

What the hell are you talking about? That's one of the most incredibly sexist things I've heard. Men are not animals who can't control their urges and who's only response to seeing a woman is to act "creepily." Creep shaming is stupid. Save it for people who actually deserve it and not just because they have a penis.
/r/seduction10/02/13 03:39 AM
0

I love the "Shrodinger's Rapist" point. I used a similar one in /r/AskWomen the other day when someone was falsely accusing another of being sexist. So I asked, "what is this, Shrodinger's sexist?"
/r/MensRights10/02/13 01:38 AM
6

I've been saying this the whole time, but it seems most PUAs are in denial.
/r/seduction09/02/13 09:35 PM
1

Encourage them to do what?
/r/seduction09/02/13 09:17 PM
-6

These things go hand in hand.
/r/MensRights09/02/13 10:39 AM
1

I disagree with a lot of what seduction says, but I do understand and somewhat agree with why they think seduction is necessary. I just don't like their approach/attitude to the problem. If we're gonna admit that there's a rift between the sexes, then the solution isn't conspiring behind women's backs in order to sleep with them. The solution is inviting women to the table in order to begin a dialogue on how to improve gender relations. That's it mostly. Here is where we were debating
/r/seduction09/02/13 12:43 AM
0

He doesn't speak for all of us.
/r/MensRights09/02/13 12:11 AM
0

Ugh, I didn't want to, but I gave you an upvote anyway because you're technically correct. But on the other side of that coin, don't assume that this post is what MRA is all about, because its not.
/r/MensRights09/02/13 12:08 AM
1

That is beyond hypocrisy. That's like some serious cognitive dissonance.
/r/MensRights09/02/13 12:05 AM
1

I guess we agree on more things than I realized. I was surprised because we were debating each in another thread not long ago.
/r/seduction08/02/13 08:23 PM
0

This all sounds like common sense that most people figure out by the time they leave high-school. Not sure why the term is thrown around so much in this sub.
/r/seduction08/02/13 04:56 PM
1

True, I'm just tired of the implication that being nice to people automatically means you have ulterior motives.
/r/seduction08/02/13 04:54 PM
1

Few people are completely like that. But a lot of people have tendencies. For example, I used to seek approval. I would have doubts about whether my opinions were right, and try to do things that please others (when suggesting activities, restaurants, etc.) But there's nothing wrong seeking the approval of peers or occasionally having doubt. Confidence is great in moderation, but go too far without some humility and you end up looking like a douche. I eventually learned that people like you bett…
/r/seduction08/02/13 02:30 PM
0

Oh, I fully understand the premise. But I don't buy into the idea that it is nearly as common or extreme as people like you or that author would have everyone believe.
/r/seduction08/02/13 02:05 PM
0

Well then you're talking about something else and not the "nice guy" stereotype that PUAs claim is so rampant. Being nice doesn't inherently make you forgetful of your own needs, that's just absent-mindedness. Please don't perpetuate this false correlation.
/r/seduction08/02/13 01:55 PM
4

Or it could be a lack of empathy, that basic human emotion that allows us to sympathize with others?
/r/seduction08/02/13 01:32 PM
1

Wait, were you faking being nice to girls to get them to sleep with you or were you just non-assertive? Because they are not one in the same.
/r/seduction08/02/13 01:11 PM
0

How do you know that; did they tell you that or are you just inventing a boogie-man?
/r/seduction08/02/13 01:08 PM
1

Wow, I never thought I'd agree with you, but well said. It's nice to see a fellow dissenter in /r/seduction. :-)
/r/seduction08/02/13 09:10 AM
2

You can still be nice to people without letting them take advantage of you...
/r/seduction08/02/13 08:47 AM
2

Who does this besides PUAs? I've never met a guy who wholeheartedly believed this. Sounds like nothing more than slander.
/r/seduction08/02/13 08:43 AM
4

Can you define "nice guy?"
/r/seduction08/02/13 07:33 AM
2

You're not alone. I'm so tired of hearing: this asshole disguised as "nice guy" cliche.
/r/seduction08/02/13 06:27 AM
1

Aww, and I had so much hope...
/r/MensRights08/02/13 06:00 AM
1

No doubt. I've witnessed it myself as well. There will always be those who hold such black&white views. That's not to say that instances of either view don't exist. As a side note, I've debated a lot of PUAs on Reddit, particularly about seduction being one sided and how it plays into the status-quo of male hyperagency and female hypoagency. Which, I personally believe is responsible for this rift between the sexes. But recently I've noticed some of the guys over there making an effort to includ…
/r/MensRights08/02/13 04:27 AM
1

I don't really have a problem with game at all; honestly I find it quite useful. I do/don't. Confidence is a life skill, not just a get-laid skill. It's a wonder how we kept the species going if men have always needed to assemble into groups solely for the purpose tricking women into liking/sleeping with them. But wait, if men haven't always had this problem, then it must be a 21st century phenomen? However, not many are willing to admit that hetero-dating culture is fractured and that there exi…
/r/MensRights08/02/13 03:58 AM
2

This guy gets it. And here I thought I was the only one.
/r/MensRights08/02/13 02:56 AM
1

And to be fair some elements of the MRM can be the same way which manifests when you see comments about men in abusive relationships having failed to use “game” with their female partner. Damn those PUAs and their "game!"
/r/MensRights08/02/13 02:27 AM
1

This is awesome. There may be hope for you guys yet.
/r/seduction08/02/13 02:08 AM
2

It's not my fault you guys don't have more girls around here. ;-)
/r/seduction05/02/13 08:51 AM
2

That's the biggest ASCII Kirby I've ever seen.
/r/seduction05/02/13 08:50 AM
10

I'm not sure what you're referring to.
/r/seduction05/02/13 03:35 AM
15

I've studied both. But philosophy is more of a hobby for me. Sorry to disappoint, but I'm a man. Thanks for the warm praise, I think? Haha.
/r/seduction05/02/13 12:45 AM
12

Looks like I've finally rubbed off on you guys.
/r/seduction05/02/13 12:25 AM
1

This no more true than women being "cum dumpsters."
/r/MensRights01/02/13 08:21 PM
18

For all those that lack the words, but feel the sentiment, have an upvote!
/r/MensRights31/01/13 10:59 PM
29

Social aspects of the MRM are just as important as the legal ones. I'm so tired of people like you, who say something isn't an MRA issue simply because its not in a news headline or scientific journal. There are many small and seemingly insignificant ways in which men are discriminated against. And one of those ways is psychological, such as this poster.
/r/MensRights31/01/13 07:25 PM
3

Yea, I thought it was weird not many people were pointing out this obvious oddity.
/r/MensRights30/01/13 02:06 PM
1

Thanks.
/r/MensRights29/01/13 05:22 PM
1

Is there anything similar for Android?
/r/MensRights29/01/13 04:24 PM
1

What's that?
/r/MensRights29/01/13 08:44 AM
1

I wish I could save this comment.
/r/MensRights29/01/13 12:55 AM
0

It's star wars syndrome. You have your purists and you have people who liked the Ewoks. Makes sense. But that's no reason to downvote. In fact, its against Redditique to downvote relevant discussion. I.e. downvoting for only irrelevant discussion. Also- don't be that guy. Never complain about your downvotes. It's tacky. Your matter-of-fact tone is kind of tacky, sorry. Actually, I've had mostly good luck with calling people on unjustified downvoting. Usually, ill get counter upvotes from sympath…
/r/MensRights26/01/13 09:18 PM
2

Such a good first season. In some ways, I like it better than The Last Airbender. Edit: downvoted? Really?
/r/MensRights26/01/13 06:25 PM
2

You're out of your mind.
/r/MensRights26/01/13 06:16 PM
2

Well there should be room in this world for all kinds of men, alpha, beta, whatever. Same for women. There's no good reason to hate on each other and try to hold each other to silly cookie-cutter standards. Rather, we should stand in solidarity for common goals that benefit all, equality, understanding, tolerance. People tend to progress and act more productively when they're happy and not stressed out because of archaic gender roles.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 11:02 AM
2

Perhaps the reason you feel those things is because you've been treated badly or disagreed with an expectation, in the past, simply because of your gender and maybe that's the skew you speak? You're already half way there to even be able to admit those things openly. So I would say that's a positive.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 10:40 AM
3

Here, read this. Mostly we just want recognition and understanding that men have problems too.(unfair social stereotypes, discrimination under the law, etc.) The women's rights movement has a 40+ year headstart. Not many people disagree that women have come a long way. Not many will recognize that men have issues too because of how our society treats men as disposable.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 10:13 AM
3

That subtle misandry tone is clever.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 09:41 AM
9

There is no equality between sexes. People just deny nature, and don't know their place. Then you aren't for MRA...
/r/MensRights24/01/13 09:34 AM
2

That was brilliant. Well said.
/r/MensRights22/01/13 06:38 AM
11

Exception to the rule? In my life, I've had many women get mad at me for not being in the mood for sex and I've heard stories from friends with similar experiences. Because men always prioritize sex above everything else. /sarcasm It may not be all women, but it would seem that's its a deeply ingrained cultural phenomenon that many women exhibit.
/r/MensRights21/01/13 06:44 PM
1

Thank you.
/r/MensRights20/01/13 07:57 AM
2

This times a million. It's funny because if you spend like 5 minutes over at r/seduction you'll find they basically believe the opposite.
/r/MensRights12/01/13 06:28 PM
1

And I'm sure some will.
/r/seduction08/01/13 05:53 AM
1

I don't agree with it, but I think I understand why. For ages women have used sex as leverage over men to obtain what they need/want because of the disproportionate balance of power. But now they were closer to gender equality than we've ever been in history, it would seem they don't want to give that last vestige of power. In other words, they want their cake and to eat it too.
/r/MensRights04/01/13 08:07 PM
7

Not everyone has that luxury. But I guess that depends on whether one sees the world as mostly shitty people or mostly good people.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 03:56 AM
4

This is the smartest and most rational comment in the whole thread. Kudos to your wisdom.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 03:00 AM
6

Please read his comment history for a good laugh. Or you know, pity.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 03:07 PM
0

Whoosh!
/r/MensRights19/11/12 11:06 PM
0

No, I really don't. I think the girls in that group are just secret misandrists and the guys are just along for the ride in hopes of getting some action.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 09:58 PM
8

Wtf does socialism have to do with this?
/r/MensRights17/11/12 09:16 PM
21

This a thousand times over. This is what its really about. Control and power.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 08:15 PM
1

Downvoted for asking a question? wtf?
/r/MensRights15/11/12 05:38 PM
12

That only furthers my point, not contradict it.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 03:29 AM
0

So wait, a man has to be an alpha male to want sex from his partner? I don't consider myself an alpha male, rather beta. And I've been falsely accused before.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 01:35 AM
16

God forbid a women has to get used to lack of attention. Try being an average looking male for a day.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 12:37 AM
83

Because woman.
/r/MensRights10/11/12 05:27 PM
1

"I to am for gender equality..." Excellent. That's a good starting point. As for the use of the word "absolute", well, I'm sorry someone has ruined that word for you and given it a negative connotation for you. But lets not start judging each other based on passed experiences. That's not productive. And if you'll notice, I qualified the word with "to the extent that is feasible and practicle", showing that I believe that absolute equality maybe impossible, but that we should work towards it anyw…
/r/MensRights06/11/12 07:16 PM
3

I would first like to preface by saying a that I am for absolute equality to the extent that is feasible and practical. And while I may not have all the solutions as to how to achieve that, it doesn't mean that I don't care. If you are not for gender equality, then don't bother reading on or continuing this discussion because it would just be a waste of both our time. "Your right is to be a MAN and pay for your MESS UP!" Who defines what being a man is? Regardless, if the man is clearly at fault…
/r/MensRights03/11/12 01:41 AM
2

If you respond to this that you are entirely serious and that this isn't some sort of extreme sarcasm, then I will reply back logically, calmly, and thoroughly why just about everything you just said is utterly wrong.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 12:23 AM
2

I usually defer to the thinking that greed usually trumps most other sinister/malicious intents.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 09:39 PM
3

That's because a lot of precincts/local municipalities treat their organization like a business. And by that, I mean they try to increase arrests, tickets, convictions, etc. all in an effort to either prevent budget cuts or in some cases to outright increase their budget.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 07:36 PM
1

Fair enough.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:50 PM
1

We're not talking about what I would do. I'm not a girl who treats unattractive guys as pervs or weak. I've been approached by women I wasn't interested in. Know what I did? I treated them like an equal fucking human being and tried my best to gently let them know I wasn't interested. And I generally let them know that I admire their effort in spite of expected gender roles.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:32 PM
1

Being shy or hesitant isn't the same as having no backbone. I consider myself fairly confident but it usually takes me a little longer than most to warm up to people. Fuck me, right? With all the hoops men have to jump through just to initiate is enough to justify a man's reluctance. If you can't see that, then you're blind to your own privilege.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:28 PM
1

I'm confused by your thinking. So girls treat respect as a bonus second to confidence, but think guys are bitter for thinking they don't value respect as much as other qualities? How does that make a lick of sense?
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:21 PM
2

I agree that its not always the case with alpha males with good social skills, but they certainly do exist. And in my experience that's the case more often than not. This is coming from a beta male who has been trying to compete with alpha males his entire life. I honestly can't blame him for feeling frustrated to the point where that generalization may seem true.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:15 PM
6

I asked a girl at work straight up if a guy is unattractive, its sexual harassment. But if he's attractive, even if she's unavailable/not interested that its harmless fun. And here's the kicker, all the females in ear-shot agreed with her like that was just the way of things, completely normal. I was utterly dumbfounded and speechless.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:09 PM
1

Poe's law
/r/MensRights30/10/12 01:28 PM
2

Relevant - I would argue that there's nothing wrong with being a pick up artist and its how women treat sex that forces men to act this way.
/r/MensRights19/10/12 01:49 PM
1

Oh I'm sorry, I must of missed it. Where's the update?
/r/MensRights12/10/12 09:46 PM
2

I hope you realize that by remaining friends with the girls in question and not calling them out, not only are you condoning this behavior/mentality, but you're setting a prescedent for your social circle/local community. You're doing your fellow man and this movement a great disservice.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 06:50 PM
1

Sure.
/r/MensRights07/10/12 02:12 PM
2

Spokane, Washington close enough? Haha.
/r/MensRights05/10/12 09:58 PM
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