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Post for Mods -- MetatruthfullyVivid/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:53 PM
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DiscussiontruthfullyVivid/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:18 AM
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I honestly don't know what bluepill even is... all I see on the sub is RP mostly. But, you made a reasonably close description of me when I was really young, aside from a few nitpicky specifics but overall-- relatively average guy, happy with his face but not a model, loves computers, art, nerdy things of all sort. I think the only difference is I worked out a lot initially during this phase and took care of my appearance, but I injured my back in my early 20's and didn't do any serious working …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:49 PM
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Oh, okay. Thank you. Would be cool if the mods stickied it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:16 PM
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Yeah... what does that stuff mean? I figured it deals with attractiveness. This pill stuff is a world of its own, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:15 PM
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What studies? Can we please get citations for them added to the bottom of the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:11 PM
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The problem is how little parents are teaching their growing teens about this stuff. I agree that the things you mentioned do at least contribute in part to some men developing the behaviors associated with toxic masculinity. It's really really really simple. Younger people are typically (but not always, for you hair-splitters out there) less mature and thanks to our shitty, mostly commercial and consumption-driven, self-centered culture-- it seems many people never fully mature in some ways. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 03:55 PM
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What does "have no problem with women" mean? Did you start having more girlfriends or more casual sex, or both? Was the increase a lot or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:10 PM
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Lol. What I do isn't that-- but I do get laid. You sound like a kid. My N count is probably greater than your age lol. RP is helping you so much, right? Tell us all of your success stories with women thanks to RP. 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:08 PM
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I agree with everything you just said. Well put.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 06:39 AM
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Well thank you. It's definitely one of my higher quality comments on this post... 😅 I did well in my psych classes though. I've forgotten so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:48 AM
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After literally caps screaming obscenities at me... lmfao holy shit you have no self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:46 AM
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You should get the fuck over yourself, you whiney, entitled, misogynistic little twerp. Lol. Peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:41 AM
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Lol, that's weeb shit dude. Popular in RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:10 AM
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Nah, I'm not RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:07 AM
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What a ridiculous tangent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:04 AM
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I struck a couple of nerves... you and your buddy's.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:03 AM
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The guy who gets laid telling you to touch grass. Later lonelyboi
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:02 AM
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Unfortunate that none of them showed up. Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:26 PM
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Are you stereotyping minors? Minors wouldn't know lyrics from old songs? (I can't tell if this is the thread where you brought up stereotypes. I think it was the other one). Lmao 🥳
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:22 PM
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The fewer uninvited minors to show up, the better. 🥳🍻🌲
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:10 PM
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I didn't invite you, kid. And you're definitely not coming to my next one 😂🥳
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:05 PM
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Lol, kid... me not disclaiming that there are outliers is not stereotyping or bigotry. The fact that most kids are not sexually active is a fact, not a stereotype. So desperate to be a victim. Now stfu and go do your homework.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:03 PM
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You don't know what bigotry is either. You losers and your victim card. You're like the kid at the birthday party that gets butthurt when he doesn't get presents too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:00 PM
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It's not a stereotype, you don't know what that word means apparently. False equivocation there too, way to cheapen the impact of racism with your whiney comparison. Ignoring exceptions? A RPer lecturing on that? Lol, JFC.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:57 PM
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There's no universal misandry you pussy. Lol. Ok, You've made it glaringly evident that you're an offended minor. On that note, we will not be seeing each other again after I'm done with this post, in keeping with the no block rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:56 PM
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You're begging the question. There's no broad assumption-- it's well-known that the youth isn't having sex as much as they used to, and it's already normal for kids to be sexually inexperienced and inexperienced with most things. It's not an insult, it's a fact. Even being so offended reveals you identify with this group, and that I'm probably here arguing with a minor. Lol at myself. Also, highschool kids aren't a "class."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:51 PM
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Exactly. Excellent take.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:47 PM
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How well are you doing currently? How much did red pill help you achieve your goals with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:43 PM
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So, you've never seen an example... you just have steadfast faith this exists. Lol, got it. There's nothing bigoted you pearl-clutching whiner. The reason people don't consult highschoolers for insight on sex and relationships is the same reason Stephen Hawking never consulted me on black holes. It's so easy lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:40 PM
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How can people be this stupid? Genuinely never fails to shock me and it shouldn't by now. JFC. You're either in denial, or deliberately dishonest about this if you're pretending there's no misogyny in RP, or spread by the people that managed to actually get banned from something.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:37 PM
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No pill here. Overall, I don't think RP helps many men at all, which is why they are constantly recruiting, so to speak. There's no reason to push RP if it's simply "a set of tools to help men." In fact, if it really worked, those that subscribe to it have demonstrated they strongly dislike any challenge with dating. So, why help the competition? Truth is, it doesn't work unless you have most men on board to try and take society backward to a time when men could just be drones with jobs and stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:32 PM
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You're deliberately framing this in the dumbest way possible because you can't argue the point. You can't even come up with examples of what a highschool kid can teach us all about sex and relationships lol. Just a bunch of vague hypotheticals and generic platitudes about essentially being "open-minded," which is ironic considering how rigid and close-minded RP is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:22 PM
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You're docile and subservient. Not me. No one's suppressing anything, shit takes always eventually end up where they belong. People that get banned have done that to themselves. They should stop being misogynists. Society doesn't take kindly to it anymore. The social consequences of your actions... don't y'all preach about that a lot?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:19 PM
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You're an idiot if you think quality insight can be had from anyone with so little life experience when it comes to people, sex, and relationships. If you could read your way to success with women, you losers wouldn't be here whining. One anecdotal experience of a highschool kid banging his gf doesn't equal expertise either, lol. But I'm the unintelligent one 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:10 PM
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No, that's literally all RP does lmao. You guys campaign like you need to recruit people. It's fucking weird..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:53 PM
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What? I lost my virginity at 16. That didn't make my take on sex and relationships any wiser or worth debating. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:51 PM
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I also have a minor in psychology. That study is far newer, on its own, not strongly corroborated. You're much better off thoroughly studying Alfred C. Kinsey's work. The McGuire study is also inherently flawed if those were the only variables considered-- as many other things not only impact happiness in a marriage-- but also motivations to stay together. People that marry as virgins are overwhelmingly more conservative and traditional than people that have premarital sex. They are more likely …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:49 PM
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Lol, if they're interested in having the same problems forever. What's the point of a debate if it's just bullshit and the only point is to keep it going forever? 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:40 PM
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No, it's not about discrimination, and N count would wall you guys out worse than age so idk what your objective is here but...lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:39 PM
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I'm not a piller at all. It's one of the stupidest things ever invented. What's childish about calling a child a child? It's pointing out that they aren't mature, aren't having sex, and don't belong in this adult conversation about things they are way too opinionated on for knowing so little about. If someone isn't a child, it doesn't apply to them, same if they aren't sexless. But okay, calling a wet duck a 'wet duck' is an insult now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:36 PM
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I'm not a piller at all. It's one of the stupidest things ever invented. What's childish about calling a child a child? It's pointing out that they aren't mature, aren't having sex, and don't belong in this adult conversation about things they are way too opinionated on for knowing so little about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:36 PM
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Has nothing to do with censorship. If RP is proliferated primarily by minors then I guess it's just not that credible then. But no one's saying that, are you? Lol. No one is building barriers except you guys. You're all in your own way. It's very true that a lot of it is expressly for coping with an undesirable situation. But it's a blame game instead of a healthy coping mechanism like reflecting on how you can be a better person and have some real confidence in yourself. Lol, but no... womenz a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:34 PM
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That's always the excuse-- but I don't date men. Yeah, we get it. That doesn't mean framing the issue in such a one sided way is accurate or encouraging of a healthy discussion. "Pump and dump"? Am I talking to another highschooler? Seriously, no offense... but I have no interest in speaking to anyone that's not 18+ and out of highschool. If you're 18+ and done with highschool, I suppose feel free to continue. There's nothing even to say here. You don't need to tell people that other people have…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:51 PM
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There's no stipulation that anything has to improve. If you start out with a good marriage and don't let it go to shit, that's not a thing. Trying to force a marriage that's not working is nothing but being a slave to traditionalism. Idk if it really concerns you or not-- but there's nothing disturbing about fewer couples getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:39 PM
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You're not making sense. You've changed the subject multiple times in order to force this to keep going. I'm here to respond to respondents to my post, so my notifs are on. Takes no effort to dunk on you for failing at things I've succeeded with, so until I'm ready to go do something else in a bit here, I'll keep it up as long as you want 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:36 PM
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You didn't prove your argument. Burden of proof is on you still. I will say, what you're saying is nonsensical because you're not going to make a marriage last if it's not happy. You sound like you're describing an arranged marriage or a hostage situation. Not all that different but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:30 PM
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It's got nothing to do with hope, doofus. Like I said, I thought you might shrivel up so I was saying bye. But then you always return. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:28 PM
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That's not true at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:12 PM
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That's not what I said, you angry little child 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:11 PM
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Why would you just want to avoid divorce but not care about having a happy marriage? Why would anyone want to marry someone that didn't hold that as a priority?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:04 PM
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Because they think they're malleable, and because they have no previous experience to compare so they'll never know how good/bad their partner is in bed. Basically insecurity, typically falling back on traditional beliefs because supposedly people are supposed to still respect that or something. To each their own though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:02 PM
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I didn't this time. I just figured you'd get tired of taking shots and would leave so I was wishing you a fond farewell.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:00 PM
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It's literally effortless for me to come back and dunk you again and again though. Why should I care? You keep coming back for more. Way to project there lil guy. If you're so sure of yourself-- you could always bail too 😉😄
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:53 PM
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What you're saying makes no sense. It's like bringing in an expert witness with no expertise-- they can't speak to whatever subject it is they're supposed to know. Idk what analogy is easy enough for you guys to understand? It's like a 3rd grader that is slower than other students trying to debate foreign policy. It's just noise. It offers nothing. That's the same as a 16 yr old kid's perspective on dating and sex-- especially when their entire concern is that they can't get any of either. How d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:48 PM
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I'm trying to keep replying to other, better quality threads on this post but you keep blowing up my notifs because you're obsessed with me now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:44 PM
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Yet again, I get laid and you don't. No one is white knighting shit, you're just a bitter little voomer. <--- new term who dis? You can figure it out. Have fun lil guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:40 PM
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Holy shit, you're really that.... Lol. I guess you've never talked to a woman before. Go ahead and comb through my history. You'll have more than enough evidence that I'm not a woman. 😂 You're mentally fatigued af. Wait a few minutes before your next one, you need a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:36 PM
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I'm not a woman you moron. Lmao I've said this multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:32 PM
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Yeah. I have a better brain than you, and I've been laid more than you. I've already had several chances to pass on my genes. I'm a success from the biological standpoint. More so than you or other people with your predicament-- still having not passed their genes anywhere except into a dirty sock-- being unlikely to reproduce. Evolution through natural selection. Lol. I tried to write that as simply as possible for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:28 PM
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Omfg you people and your obsession with animals. It's like you wish everyone were still so primitive. News flash-- advanced sentience, abstract thought, culture, and history superceded animal instinct a long time ago, pal. Not that it's gone, but holy crap it's no wonder you're all so troubled. Obviously, for someone to know anything with some things, they need experience. It doesn't matter if you desperately need to disagree to support your point, you're wrong and in another context you'd proba…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:20 PM
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You don't have much insight either if you're selling TRP to frustrated kids. They're not even your ideas and they haven't helped most of you-- arguably any of you-- or you wouldn't still have such obvious chips on your shoulders. And if you think online, anonymous forums are a healthy place for kids to get their education on sex and relationships (especially from failed individuals of all people), I hope you're never a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:12 PM
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That doesn't explain what value they can bring to the discussion at all. Not everything in life can be learned through a screen, or reading. People need real experiences with love and relationships for their takes on them to carry any value. Otherwise, they're just opinions backed up by whatever confirmation bias someone can find, i.e. all of the links these kids cite as sources that bring up baseless editorials, unverified and non-credible "studies," misrepresented statistics like divorce initi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:36 PM
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Nah, they also succeed at marriage. All of the biggest power players all have wives. Hell, a lot of men (I'm not praising this) have wives and still cheat regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:30 PM
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You're dodging the question so hard. Trying to respond with a question and expect me to answer yours first? I'll answer your question if you answer mine. You won't. You'll probably write something though. Later, kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:25 PM
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**In general, you're correct because most of the stuff in PPD, at least that I see, is TRP. Unless you're referring to the advice given to TRP, which they evidently never give a real chance. You're just too scared to meet women in public. Online dating is mostly cancer. It can be okay on the rare occasion a real connection is made through it-- but it should NEVER be your first option. Yet, it appears to be yours and you sound very unhappy. Trying the same thing repeatedly expecting different res…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:20 PM
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There you go again. You've still never explained what a 16 yr old virgin boy's rant post or CMV about something they've never done contributes anything of value to the community or greater discussion. I guess you need them here because their experience level makes them your peers in this context?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:09 PM
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Why would you be mad about me accurately paraphrasing you? Lol, like that comment doesn't make me feel bad, but it's clear you'd really like it if you could accomplish that 😄 What's your deal? 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:42 PM
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Lol, ok so you like talking about sex to kids, and you wish this were a boys locker room. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:29 PM
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At first I thought this post seemed very reasonable-- people need to recognize that everyone is an individual and has their own expectations... and then I continued reading and it became clear from the context it's directed squarely at women. Just another one of those if you get to have high standards, so do we!-posts. Firstly, beggars can't be choosers. Secondly, your standards are no one's fault but your own, and I think you acknowledge this in a way, so on some level you already know that tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:27 PM
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Lol, dude you couldn't answer the question. So, you're either a minor or you specifically want to be able to discuss sex and dating with them, weird. Lmfao, you're essentially saying you want a dating forum with all guys and only guys in it-- but I'm the one who's homosexual. Lol, k bud. And why so angry? Because I pointed out you have girl problems? I mean, I thought that's why you were here 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:18 PM
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Of course, but they'd have a difficult time keeping it up and making it believable. If they gave themselves away, we could just permaban them. Let them go start their own little community with a slide and a ball pit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:12 PM
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No, there's nothing ageist about wanting to improve the quality of the dialogue. There's also nothing wrong with adults no wanting to discuss sex and dating with literal kids. They have nothing of value to offer the discussion, and them even being in here is a bad look. Is there some reason you'd want to discuss that with them? Or are you a minor?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:09 PM
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Why would I be butthurt if a woman has an easier time finding a relationship? Why are you? Look, idgaf if a literal kid is having problems getting laid or getting a gf. It's literally not problematic at all, and that stupid kid should probably focus on their future. A 16 yr has no valuable insight or experience to add here either-- and they tend to pontificate and write more low-brow, editorialized nonsense on this sub than anyone else. Lol. So, why do you want to continue discussing sex with mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:01 PM
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No, it's not blatantly wrong. You don't know your car at all until you've gotten under it, under the hood, and actually worked on it yourself. No schematic teaches you how to do that, or what parts you can get away with not fully removing to save time on a job, or know what to do when they encounter a problem. On the other hand, the twerp with the schematics is going to be digging through drawings and google to try and figure out everything else they didn't know. So, you thought you dunked my an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:56 PM
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LOL none of you even fuck! How would you know what a woman says after a tipsy one night stand? You clearly don't have any experience. I have only had a couple of people clearly try to lie to me about this already. It's much less common than I thought. So, you're the third one. You really thought your comment seemed convincing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:51 PM
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No, I've had relationships and I know that they can be complicated. Why do you people that have never done anything think you can tell other people how things are? Lol. Again, as I've asked several times in these threads and none of you malcontents can answer it-- do you really want to discuss sex with a bunch of minors online (that wouldn't even know shit about the assertions they make anyway) if you're an adult? And exactly what are you going to get out of that? Maybe answer specifically inste…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:47 PM
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Yeah, I feel bad for them (and me, I'm not that old! Ha) for a lot of reasons-- but their attitudes on dating sure isn't one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:42 PM
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Like you've even talked to a woman. Lol. I've got all the children on this sub angry with me. Stay in school.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:39 PM
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No, with your attitude it's more like.... 0-100M = maidenless. We don't need literal minors involved in any of these discussions. They have nothing of value to offer and no healthy adult wants to discuss sex with minors on the web. So, if you're a kid, kick rocks and go watch cartoons.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:38 PM
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Dude, stop pretending this is even a valid "debate" lol. All we're talking about is clearing out the children. Literal minors. And you have a problem with that, why? Do you like to have minors in your conversations about sex and dating? Or are you one yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:36 PM
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Someone doesn't have an argument at 16 with no dating or sexual experience. Kick rocks, child.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:34 PM
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What are you clutching pearls about this time? You didn't address anything. Your response was trash. Oh god, now you're going to address that comment instead of the question. Being entitled to an opinion doesn't make that opinion worth a shit. Lmao. You're actually annoying me at this point. Gonna take off, no need to dunk you. You're already miserable. Night.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:16 AM
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Still living with your parents at 97? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:12 AM
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You type so much just to avoid a question you can't answer. Imagine being so offended on behalf of something that you're totally, definitely not. Lol. A minor is a child and has no business here. Debate that or stfuk... ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:11 AM
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You're telling me you've never had male friends that could get laid. Buddy of mine that's married to a beautiful woman says it sometimes, and a gay friend of mine says it. Lmao, you children.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:55 AM
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IF you are that, your opinion is invalid. Looks like you need to see your reading tutor about having some additional sessions. You still can't explain why a completely inexperienced minor's opinion on the dating world is worthy of debate. No one's spewing hate. You're mad about someone literally referring to sexless children as sexless children.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:50 AM
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Sorry but you can't explain why your highschool age opinion matters in a debate about things you've never done. There's no insults in there, unless you hate yourself. Not my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:38 AM
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There's nothing I can learn from an angsty young virgin boy in school when they post a crypost about women. Just how old are you, lil fella? Your parents know you're on here?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:26 AM
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No one's mad, except for the children on this sub. Lol, sexless teens preaching about sex, relationships, and women. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:54 AM
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No, most wouldn't disagree. You cannot find out who I am just knowing I'm 36M. If you're worried about social engineering-- don't answer emails or DMs from people you don't know. It should give people an implicit bias. If you're a 16 yr old, sorry you don't know shit about the dating world yet and no one needs to waste their time debating your baseless assertions. That's the entire point. Yes, if you fit that description, your opinion is invalid because you'd be a kid that doesn't know what they…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:49 AM
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Shut up already, kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:40 AM
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I don't think you see much. Especially not if you think the overarching debate isn't ridiculous. I like this place for the things I like about it. There'd be no reason to object here unless you're a kid or you overwhelmingly agree with the content you think we'd see a lot less of if we removed children from the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:54 AM
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It's not arbitrary at all and the one mod that tried to argue that point didn't succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:44 AM
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Yeah, I'm very new here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:43 AM
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No more a waste of time than this "debate" is in general. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:36 AM
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From what I've seen of the dating culture of the younger generation, there's not much to speak of and none of it's hip. 😄 I agree though, that's probably a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:35 AM
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You essentially just told someone to seek out echo chambers where they agree with the narrative, to avoid other supposed echo chambers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:48 AM
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Yeah, I had the same thought about how this should be an 18+ sub since it's directly discussing sex. I don't want to debate with a minor on shit like that... 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 10:16 PM
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For real tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 10:13 PM
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LOL nvm purple pill debate. There's so many acronyms thrown around here I thought it was another one
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 07:50 PM
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Yeah. Sad thing is I've only been on this sub around a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 07:09 PM
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That's wild. I've never heard of this ever. Where are you seeing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:51 PM
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The same scenario applies if an open homophobe is caught watching gay porn. You mean, kinda like when Jesse Lee Peterson got outed by the men he had sex with? Can I ask you a question? How old are you and how many women have you had experience with this with? There's one thing about being turned on by something and also being able to think abstractly about a scenario and recognize what's wrong with it. Enjoying sub/dom dynamics in the bedroom doesn't make feminists hypocrites. They're choosing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:41 PM
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I had considered this, but I figured it's a harder sell and much more work for the mods to enforce. I figured this was the most practical compromise. Just require it on CMV or other editorialized posts. Unless you're taking no position at all, age should be required imo, and sex would make sense too just for context. No way possible to identify someone from just that info alone. Anyway, that was my thought process but yeah, originally I thought flair too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:37 PM
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The reason people do this is because it's smart and they learned to do it. Of course, they would write off the angsty opining of a 15M about how women are terrible whores and hypocrites about dating etc. etc. etc. Anyone with any common sense would write off that take because the author couldn't possibly be qualified enough to make that statement. It's a waste of time to even debate it. This isn't disenfranchising anyone-- in this case we're talking about literal kids. I can tell you right now t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:35 PM
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Lol, cool thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:30 PM
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No, it wouldn't do anything like that, and the rules of the sub would still apply to the debates. There also IS NO POINT BEING MADE just because someone says something, and not everything that everyone says is worth debate. So much of this "I have my opinion," thing going on. Yes, yes you do. Is it worth the same as everyone else's? No. A pilot's opinion on a plane is better than a passenger's, a chemist's opinion on a compound is better than a comedian's, and a sexually-experienced, dating-expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:28 PM
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Lol, no I'm not. Why even say something that you can't defend? That's twice now lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:18 PM
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Writing cry posts about women based on internet people's videos ain't that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:15 PM
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It's not a lie. The "loses meaning" thing is nothing but a cliche. These things aren't universal. That's not why most men prefer not to show affection or emotion, and you know it. Irony, calling me a liar and responding so disingenuously.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:14 PM
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These guys get turned on to Youtubers who gateway people to right wing crap like Tim Pool, Jordan Peterson, and that other guy they've all been crying about recently. Then they funnel into online echochambers and from there the radicalization continues. Talk to most TRP guys and they're right wing on most "issues" (it's almost always culture war related) that are hot button topics at the moment. That's because that's the other stuff their influencers and opinion leaders proliferate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:11 PM
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Citing links to stuff online is hardly citing a reliable source. The entire nature of CMV is that someone has taken a firmly established belief in something. If a 15M has the belief in that example you quoted and creates a post like that-- you can see that they aren't qualified to hold that view because the vast majority or entirety of their perspective can't be backed up by anything they've experienced. Is this a place for children to debate Youtube fiction? Is that what you're here for?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:04 PM
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Yeah the slippery slope fallacy. I'm familiar with it. Again. Age and sex are not identifying enough to compromise anonymity. I think it's just because activity on the sub might drop if this were implemented. Dubious conflict of interests. Oh well. I'm aware you don't speak for all the mods though so maybe others will see it differently? Maybe they won't. Doesn't matter, it's a good idea and I suggested it. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:54 PM
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If you don't have credentials in some cases you don't have merit. You can study schematics all you want but a mechanic knows the car better than you. If someone has no experience, they should ask questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:51 PM
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No one said this is about making advice posts. People do respond with advice... but yeah. This has nothing to do with what you're saying rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:44 PM
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Same! Emphasis on drastically! Such an excellent point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:41 PM
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Revealing age or even an age that's like 1 year off from your age is still purely 100% anonymous. If the objective is to encourage everyone to make posts-- no matter how low quality-- I'd have to question if this sub's existence is simply to continue existing, provide an anonymous platform to gateway people into shit takes, or a platform being run earnestly with the objective of promoting quality discussion that can help people with their dating problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:38 PM
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I'm not so sure-- I think you're definitely right about at least some individuals-- but I've noticed that a lot of older TRP actually emphasize their age too because it is relevant to whatever their point is. Regardless, cutting back on the editorialized crap like All women are hypocrites (cheap example but you get the idea) would still improve the quality of discussion here. Those posts are essentially no better than shitposts and never lead anywhere anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:30 PM
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You sound like you have no real personal experience with this. As an emotionally expressive man with a fair amount of experience with multiple women-- I can tell you there are plenty of women out there that are nothing like what you say they're "all" like from my personal experience. Saying "I love you" is hardly a big deal, lol. If that makes you so uncomfortable, it sounds like you had ambivalent parents or other trauma with personal relationships. If you're embarrassed because you think expre…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:24 PM
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Yep, this too. There's multiple layers of insight to the OP's dating perspective we can gain from it. I wasn't even considering this aspect when I wrote the post so thanks for covering my blind spots 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:13 PM
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That's what I'm hoping for! This sub could actually help people! 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:06 PM
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Omg... I hate killing... but I had to kill this tomato plant to make this pizza sauce... fuck! HOW AM I GOING TO EAT? I can't be a hypocrite! I JUST WANT MY PIZZA, MAMA MIA!! 😭😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:42 PM
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Maybe, you should stop making something out of nothing and accept that there is dark humor in the world and also accept that people laugh at fucked up shit every day-- you probably even laughed about something fucked up even within the last few days if you spend a lot of time online. And yeah, Bill Burr has a theme and brand of comedy that works well for him, but that's just it. He's a comedian-- one of my favorites. He's not writing these bits as serious social commentary, and regardless of wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:03 PM
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It's a complete non issue. This is the first time I've heard someone talk about cutting off a dick since I heard about John and Lorena Bobbit as a kid. Women didn't invent "big and little dick energy" and men use those phrases all the time about themselves and others. I guess if you want to sit around and imagine reasons to feel sorry for yourself, this is one way to kill some time. Otherwise it's just stupid to even try to manufacture a controversy here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:46 PM
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I can't believe anyone can humor this post. So angry and bitter. No facts. Bill Burr does edgy comedy and I doubt he'd back you up here. Why do you hate women so much? What did they do to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 08:35 AM
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Lol, I half suspected but couldn't pass up giving you shit. Anyway though, I don't think I'm strawmanning this guy. You can reasonably infer that "gross" = lower value. Have sex, have sex with multiple people-- what's the difference? If she has no STD's there's literally nothing to care about. Unless she literally just got done fucking another guy, you're not getting sloppy seconds. Time for TRP to leave behind the high school locker room, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:57 AM
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Dump this guy, he's a loser. Not trolling. If he can't get past this now and never mention it again, he's never going to get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:58 AM
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Lmao no way... are you really running 2 accounts on this post rn? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:53 AM
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You're the one that put "I" and "he" in there. Looked like a slip to me! 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:50 AM
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I didn't strawman him at all. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:45 AM
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So this is what TRP has come to? Calling women gross for having sex? It's just gross. lol ok. Nah, it's gross to you. Seeking validation in belittling women is unnecessary. Your entire concept revolves around some arbitrary opinion that having more past partners lowers women's value (silence on men). There you go, that's why it's misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:38 AM
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Yep, that's why that divorce initiation rate stat is bogus. It just sounds like a dunk if you don't think about it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:19 AM
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So, what was your answer to the OP's question? What if you married a virgin with no sex drive? Like you... what would irl you do if this happened to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:17 AM
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Not all people do the same things-- and just because someone is attractive enough to have sex with but you don't want a relationship with them-- that doesn't stop you from wanting sex right now. People that are comfortable with casual sex and FWB will do it all they want-- it doesn't mean they can't also simultaneously have an eye out for someone they'd like a monogamous relationship with. I feel like TRP always fails to ever acknowledge there's an emotional aspect to relationships. It's no surp…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:08 AM
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Not nearly as many, or as organized. Not to mention, they might be fine with you thinking for yourself-- whereas traditional institutions like churches do not want that. It's definitely not an equivalent, but you're right to an extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 01:56 AM
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Well, seems and unpopular opinion I hold-- at least in this sub-- is that women are human beings, and men and women shouldn't be held to different standards or any standards. People are different. Approach each person and relationship like it's unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 12:02 AM
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Uh, the world is still run mostly by men... and it's currently being destroyed without remorse or thoughts of the future-- for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:59 PM
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Lmao omfg... imagine being that dumb! Guy gets exploited and doesn't make enough to be happy. Guy responds by blaming women and arbitrarily punching down at poor workers... jfc
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:56 PM
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Um... I'm against traditionalism because it's literally other people telling you how to live your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:54 PM
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 04:46 PM
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Lol, that is an excellent point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 04:46 PM
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Yeah, that's not reality. Touch grass. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 04:41 AM
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Yeah, get over it. Now everyone can do it. It's not your business what women do. If you can't find one you like (and that likes you), that's your problem to figure out-- not other people's problem to be corrected. Soz pally
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:21 AM
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That's just flat out wrong. Lol. Touch grass, the world is not what they're tellin ya. You've been sucked right into the culture wars lmao. For a guy who doesn't sound like he trusts much msm, it's funny how well you know one major network's narratives well. Are they keeping your eye on the ball? Lol. This is hopeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:16 AM
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Your post already got removed it looks like. Lmfao. Guess that makes this even more pointless. Become smarter somehow. Later.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:05 AM
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Man, don't try that tired ass shit lol. Go back and reread. It's there forever, even if I delete it. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:03 AM
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You literally can't defend anything you're saying and that's why the discussion broke down to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:01 AM
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No, I'm making a point. You're repeating baseless idioms.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:00 AM
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What? Liking dogs or Netflix aren't traits. Self-determination and assertiveness are though, and those both play into someone caring about their own rights and the politics that affect them. Should only men care about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:58 AM
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Is that your debate response?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:56 AM
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No one's angry about it. Why are you so defensive and secretive about it? You didn't even answer the rest of the question. Don't take my bluntness as anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:54 AM
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No, people that thought they had some default elevated station in life above other kinds of people want to be victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:53 AM
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Look dude... I say this as respectfully as possible. I respect everyone's individual right to their own beliefs. Ok. Ok. Fuck christianity. You're making a sweeping generalization. Women can do what they want, so can men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:51 AM
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So, you want someone that dislikes Netflix (wtf?), dislikes dogs (?????), doesn't do something most women don't do, doesn't care about issues that affect them, has sexual experience to make you insecure, etc... ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:48 AM
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Lol, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:44 AM
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Define "annoying feminist women" please, for sake of debate. Seen it used a few times so if it's some standard or threshold then the line needs to be as clear as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:58 AM
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That's bogus lol. Women not only get vilified for being unethical, they get vilified for things that are no one's business. This victim complex refrain is tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:55 AM
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Yeah TRP, do what this guy says. Travel far away on your personal quests for quenching. Good luck and godspeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:48 AM
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I don't think the premise for the question is valid because it's impossible to know. "Attractive" is neither a cultural or individual standard that can be compared. One individual may have completely different views and live in the same area as you, or have completely different views because of the different area they live in. Even if you could assume some rough standard, the problem is everyone's experience would still be completely anecdotal and subjective. Considering it's a thought exercise …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:48 AM
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I've been in this same position a few times in the past. As other people have noted-- using a situational excuse is probably the best way to reject without hurting any feelings or damaging relationships with your colleagues. I would like to add that if you're good at acting like nothing has changed at all or just put it all behind you and don't show any signs that they made you uncomfortable then it should help things return to normal quickly, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 04:16 PM
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Yeah, people choose to be wrong all the time nowadays. What's truth if it ain't your truth? Hell, if you don't like something-- it's fake! Have an extremely limited perspective and like to make sweeping generalizations? Perfect! Stick to your guns. What do all those know-it-alls actually know anyway? Trust the people with terrible or no success with women-- they know everything about women and how to get them. That's why no one in this sub is dissatisfied with their love lives. No one at all. Lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:50 PM
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TRP really is its own worst enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 11:21 PM
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Yes! Lol, I still occasionally get carded.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 10:20 PM
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There are many beautiful and youthful women that are well past the age of 30. You just wouldn't guess their age. I think with this issue, it's primarily about having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 09:35 PM
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Sorry, guess I'm not a person of culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:21 PM
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I've never met anyone more obsessed with cuckold fetishes than TRP. You know who's really watching a lot of porn...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 02:59 PM
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Watching porn together isn't all that uncommon for couples, at least not anymore. I'd say watching porn is one of the more vanilla things people try when doing new things with a longtime committed romantic partner they want to keep things interesting with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 02:56 PM
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If she has a warrant as you mentioned in another comment, that complicates things. You both should consult the link below and contact them for guidance. https://www.rainn.org/resources
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:05 AM
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Are you happy with your lovelife and previous success with women? Lol, what is "SJW" about acknowledging history? You're fixating on the "queer" detail. I'm seriously losing brain cells talking to you. You can deny traditionalism isn't used to push old school bigotry too, but you'd be incorrect. Regardless, the point is you're repeating old, garbage talking points. Just because you have a right to that doesn't mean people have to humor it ad nauseam. I'm sorry I didn't break it down completely f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 03:43 AM
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This isn't woke narrative. You don't understand what you're reading. The "traditionalist" talking points you brought up are the same ones that... as I said-- were used to ostracize other groups in the past. That's the point-- there's nothing new about that garbage. Same old crap the evangelical right has been using to discriminate against people they don't like for ages. It's archaic and it's your right to believe in it but it's still dumb af. It's fine though, dude. You don't sound like anyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 02:44 AM
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Who said it was? Are you having difficulty reading?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 02:00 AM
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It's almost tragic to be so angry over such a misconception. Anyway, your vision sounds like the script for right wing social propaganda used to ostracize queer people for decades (longer really). Something you might listen to from some dollar store Rush Limbaugh/Jim Bakker hybrid like Erick Erickson. Better find a cult to join if you want to live out The Handmaid's Tale. The rest of us won't be joining you, my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 09:28 PM
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At least with a prostitute you get sex and get to interact with a real woman which may not be 100% genuine but you still get to see what women are like more or less, much more exposure than reading bullshit online or messaging some only fans girl. Yeah, for real. It's good to see the stigma is slowly subsiding. I've certainly noticed that myself, it's just that some people refuse to let the past die. Seems ironic that so much of TRP blames failed relationships on female promiscuity and sex work-…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 09:18 PM
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We should all be thriving more, my dude. That's a national/global issue. Exploiters and the exploited. Wealth inequality and unsustainable systems are holding us down. That's the only way it works though!!-- just ask any filthy rich guy or fronting finance bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 07:55 PM
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Oh ok cool. Yeah, I made a similar point recently. A lot of these bitter dudes really are just adding insult to injury by not hooking up with a sex worker instead of waiting into their 30s-40s to maybe lose their virginity-- at least if they have no personal reasons for not being sexually active other than they can't, as they frequently report. I'm not saying that as a dig either. The stigmas about sex workers and their clients are outdated and just based in sexism/misogyny anyway. It needs to j…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 07:48 PM
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No it doesn't, and adopted children aren't universally "messed up" or incapable of healing emotionally with the parenting of loving adopted parents. You're ignoring any nuance to the individual situations, too. Your view is incredibly narrow. These regressive arguments based on clinging to some overpowering, animalistic biological imperative that prevents adopted parents and kids from having just as good or better relationships than some biological parents (because we know they're all super qual…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 07:34 PM
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Single filing in the US-- you make somewhere between $209k -- $523k annually (at least that you report) if you're getting taxed at 35%. Taxes aren't starving you lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 06:29 PM
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I'm not sure what you believe you've got me pegged for. I might have misread the comment. I was mocking TRP for having no concept of what you're talking about-- basing that on they seem to never talk about it. (should clarify, idk what Seeking Arrangements is. Heard the name before but that's it)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 06:18 PM
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This reads so angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 04:18 PM
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Right. So, there's a lot of pain on the way for the working class in the plausible scenario that the Fed fails to curb runaway inflation. The way it originally read to me was like inflation was already sidelining tons of guys in the dating game. My bad if misinterpreted. I didn't reread to check just now... writing this in a rush.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 04:11 PM
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Hmm, well you're right about this. I wouldn't argue with any of that. The working class should probably stop quibbling over every culture war issue that grifters can come up with and finally turn their sights on the ruling class.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:39 PM
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Bro, inflation sucks but we haven't been dealing with it for that long and it isn't anywhere near the burden on dating by any means yet that it's worth mentioning. Inflation affects everyone too, not just men. Prices suck but unless you're really poor (not an insult, our social and economic systems are dogshit and people are brainwashed) then you're not being priced out of dating success right now, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:35 PM
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Woah, you're referring to feelings and romantic love. Those are not concepts covered in TRP handbook. What on earth? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:31 PM
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But we aren't being taxed to death or anything remotely like that and you implied that type of difficulty in your other statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:27 PM
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What does any of this have to do with women? Being overworked and underpaid is a social issue. If you don't like worker exploitation, try helping the issue. First thing-- if you've ever supported an economic policy because of how it would benefit you after it helps "job creators," learn really quick why that's dumb as hell and never do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:24 PM
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What are you talking about? Parents being biological doesn't impact any of those other elements. Adopted parents can love and nurture a child as well as biological ones. Conceiving a child isn't a qualification of a good parent at all. Parenting is about raising someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:15 PM
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According to what? Even if that's true-- there's no way any people that have so little or no experience with dating would be in any position to compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:11 PM
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19-49
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 07:37 AM
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Tragically, yes. Hmmm. Coulda sworn I've noticed a bit of overlap with TRP and people that wanted a wall lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 07:32 AM
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Immigrant women will happily date guys that need throwaway accounts to talk about their views on dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 06:22 AM
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Anyone that believes they're entitled to sex (especially easy sex) are all people with issues-- whether they're bitter because being nice didn't get them laid or being a dick and a poser didn't get them laid. Your broad generalizations about dating are glaringly bitter and seemingly from limited experience though. There are plenty of people that are in romantic relationships where love is very much a thing. Some people have to make themselves feel better by painting all of those relationships as…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 04:25 AM
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Yeah. I think in the future it will improve and hope so for the future of both men and women. The account you mentioned makes me wonder if that person had ever even used Tinder before. How did they not expect to find some sex workers? Would they be shocked when they see the plug's profile pop up too? Lol. Imagine getting angry about that match. As for the emasculating part, I can't say I even get this. Would it be more ego-boosting to have a sexual partner that wants to fuck? Well, duh. But the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:29 AM
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Unless you pay them. The stigma around that is really outdated. If it were fully legalized and even regulated everywhere, it would be a lot safer for all parties involved. I've never employed these kinds of services, but I'm not against it and I don't look down on it. A lot of the most bitter guys would probably benefit a lot from a date with a sex worker. To each their own of course-- but after a point, if you don't require a romantic connection or commitment to fuck someone... stop punishing y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 02:25 AM
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Thank you, thank you. I'm doing it up big this year. Warmed up some leftover pizza, got The Office reruns on cable, and just packed a bowl. 🥳
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 02:07 AM
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So, that's easily 21,900 bangs if they get it 3x per day. In my opinion, they could've done better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 01:03 AM
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I always figured location played a larger role than people typically mention. If you live in the sticks, you're already starting out with a tiny local dating pool. Living in/near populated areas is opens up so much more opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 12:56 AM
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I'm 36. Before I stumbled upon pill land, I thought the average was somewhere between 20-50.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 12:52 AM
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PoF used to be the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 11:37 PM
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There's nothing eye opening. None of this is news. Because of how tinder is set up you end up with a skewed likelihood of success. Even when tinder was "good" it was best for casual hookups/meeting randos. It was never a great resource for finding relationships. It's just a way to waste some time when you're bored. See that? That's literally all tinder is for some (I would argue most) people. Bad place to invest your time if you're craving genuine attention from people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 11:36 PM
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I'm sure I'd regret this-- but I'd do it just to know what it was like. I'd probably be shouting safewords and all kinds of shit just minutes in. HWISKEY! HWISKEYYYY!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 02:59 PM
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Lol, christ. So, I just got a yellowcard for a dunk I made on a low-effort troll that was necroposted on a 5 day old lower-level comment and got asshurt immediately and reported me? There's no way anyone else looked away this, lol. I have like 4 followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 02:32 PM
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Sheesh... did that guy actually report this (that fast, too?) or do I just hold the immense honor of captivating your undivided attention? 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 02:28 PM
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Lol, no one has ever said "economics 101" on the internet unironically without teaching me an incredible lesson about global economics! It's so amazing how smart online people understand the concept of supply and demand! They're so smart! Losers' dependencies on high volumes of venomous cope to feel better about their failures with women cannot explained by any single aspect of Milton Friedman's inept, ass-backward idea of an efficient market and "classic" macroeconomics. It's really a shame-- o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 02:05 PM
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I believe this is true, but I think when people grow old together there's a potential point where that becomes less important. Obviously, age and health affect libido and after several decades together, I think a relationship has enough intimacy to endure a decline in sex past the age of 70-75. It really depends on the individuals though. Some people manage to stay youthful and healthy looking for a lot longer than others might believe. Inevitably, the aging catches up but long after it's alread…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 11:07 PM
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You're mad at capitalism, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 07:41 AM
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That's a great question. In short, yes. My experiences have always shaped me and my experiences with love were no different. I think my concept has matured as I've aged, and I want something deeper in a connection now than I ever did when I was younger. Love needs to have a spark and sometimes that intangible element is difficult to attribute to a single quality or trait in a person. It's just how they make you feel. You can't explain it perfectly at all times, but they make you feel like you wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:51 AM
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It's not outdated, it's timeless. You'll never fail to benefit at least moderately from having a social circle, unless you strictly hang out with dudes. Not a great start if the point is to be around women more often. But you don't have to get stuck just hanging with the boys. There's a lot of places where you already have chances to run into and meet people just going about life if you live in or near a city. You were already sort of onto something with your sports league example, but even just…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:28 PM
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TRP is a set of tools. You said it, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:10 PM
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Good advice. How dare you!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 04:07 PM
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This will come off as trolling but sincerely-- talking to women. Not just approaching/hitting on women-- gotta stop thinking of every (attractive) woman as a potential mate/target. If she turns out to be cool and you hit it off, then that's fantastic. Pursue it further until it goes somewhere, or it goes nowhere. But don't just pass on chances to socialize with women and make friends (oh noes, not the dreaded friendzone! lol) because you can learn a lot about women... from women. Go figure. Not …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 03:59 PM
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Your attitude is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 06:07 PM
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Lmao bro you're the one that just got bent out of shape. Have you found any tools in that box that helped you get laid yet? I guess I was born with mine, either that or I was raised by better people-- but I'm not here due to any problems with women. Best of luck to you! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:38 PM
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It's their concept of "low value women" that's extremely misogynistic. Pretty much seems closer to evaluating livestock than human beings. TRP absolutely laments that progress because if the discussion goes far enough it always eventually gets back to women having greater financial freedom, independence, career opportunities and success, education, and sometimes even rights like voting! Lol. TRP ain't a cafeteria. It's app after app after app until you're full-blown incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:31 PM
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If find red pill to be its own worst enemy, personally. I think the older proponents of TRP are desperately interested in shaping the youth to reflect their obsolete views on men and women in society because they truly want to see the clock turned backward on women's progress. They are heavily closeted black-pill weighted in their older ranks, not that I feel there's a fundamental difference at all... red to black on the "pill" spectrum is just the spectrum of depravity. These "saviors" offer wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:23 PM
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Perhaps I am. In fairness-- it's what overwhelmingly happens here. If you're truly neutral then sorry you're getting stuck in the crossfire-- this is just a common approach I've found easy to sniff out on this sub (until you, the responses I field always validate my take).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:14 PM
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I'm very surprised, but alright. I'll keep this in consideration as we're arguing elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:11 PM
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That would be like engaging with a climate-change denier in a debate about climate change. A masturbatory event if nothing more to frame a false controversy. Debating nonsense lends nonsense credibility. The burden of proof is on you anyway-- this is your point after all. You didn't provide anywhere near what would even constitute a preponderance of evidence and are treating it like your arguments are sufficiently cited and backed up. They are not. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:10 PM
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I don't have "bitterness"-- if anything that would be projection. Contempt and incredulity though I possess in spades. "The data"-- that you cherry-picked. Was there 3 studies in there? Or was it just 2?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:59 PM
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Lmao if it's not rocket science then why doesn't every red pill man have a mate? They demonstrate heavy misogyny in their commonly displayed attitudes that women are inherently deceptive or just incapable of understanding what they want, lol. Not to mention how much TRP laments the progress women have made, which has liberated them from dependence on men that was previously forced on them by the makeup of society. Consequently, low-quality men can't lock down wives like they used to-- hence red …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:56 PM
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The premise of your question and underlying bias is: "misogynistic men actually do better with women"-- leading to two possible loaded questions: 1) "Is misogyny really bad?" 2) "Do women really know/tell the truth about what they want?"-- which are two incredibly dead horse red pill tropes that are incessantly lobbied here. Some take hardline approaches, and some pretend to be neutral. The framing of your question reveals your agenda though. To disenfranchise women and promote apologia for miso…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:46 PM
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I take this as a compliment. 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:36 PM
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Yep! This was my take as well! That's why I laid into it because then he'd have to elaborate and he can't. I have never seen a red pill post that proposes a question that isn't loaded with a non-sequitur or an assumption. The point is to get the respondents to tacitly accept the premise for the question by even considering it. This guy was just wayyyy too simple to even disguise his as nuanced at all. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:34 PM
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Another day, more pseudointellectual attempts to make TRP seem reasonable lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:31 PM
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I guess proving your point is too difficult, so you'd rather slap fight? Lol. The floor is yours, smart guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:38 PM
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Yet the one constant remains-- regardless of one's beliefs they are not correct to debase others for not being as sexually insecure or repressed as they are. It's your personal choice, just as it's theirs. Get over it. If you can't find people that are like you... then you're the common factor in your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:33 PM
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So, that's it? Just a dumb, arbitrary question based on nonsensical parameters for no reason? Also, that's a pretty stupid analogy. There's gotta be some similarity for those to work, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:29 PM
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Would you want him to be a fuckboy or a beta hubby type? And why? Automatically framing a dichotomy-- not to mention based on absurd opposing stereotypical extremes-- not off to a good start. No in between, you only got those two choices to make Assuming and mandating constraints that would not reflect reality whatsoever. And before asking for definitions, well I think you can imagine a definition of fuckboy and beta hubby type we could all agree with, right? Just go with that definition False C…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:17 PM
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Lol, there's nothing wrong even in the smallest way. Just be careful about infections/unplanned pregnancies and don't deceive people to get what you want. That's pretty much it. You're good, man. Don't beat yourself up for living life instead of wasting away in forum echochambers filled with salty guys. Just always remember to not mistreat people and you're guchi my friend. Enjoy sewing those oats lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:11 PM
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Lmao "most of the time." If that were true maybe like half of the boomer parents would've ever married or had children-- IF that. Casual sex (and dating) aren't new. You ever heard of the 70's? People didn't even take the precautions they do now half the time. Yet that generation went on to settle down and breed like one's business so yeah... "playing the field" has no such ubiquitous consequences or impact. If it has any common impact-- it's that those people eventually find relationships becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:08 PM
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I gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 07:15 PM
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I see a lot of TRP guys forgot to do their pregame wank before posting today. Lol, some of these takes are extra spicy today, tension must be high 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 06:12 PM
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That alpha beta sigma sugma ligma bullshit is so incredibly stupid. Lemme help ya out-- there are no answers to a question like this that will help you out. Just abandon the concept and be far better off for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:59 PM
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The glaring revelation is your constant reference to cuck porn like it's the only alternative to your constant defensiveness stemming from your inferiority complex. You think it's so much more real and prevalent than it is in reality. Sure, kinks like that exist but mainly on the fringe and to be honest-- the fact you even judge them so harshly is another hallmark of your insecurity. You can't just live and let live. You have to manufacture disgust when really you could just move on with your li…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:25 PM
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Lmfao. It just dawned on me... how many of these are just shitposts? With a few adjustments this could be copy pasta gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:57 AM
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The fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:39 PM
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Yeah. Like everything is tribal these days. It's dumb af.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:01 PM
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It's definitely a learned response. I don't think there's anything wrong with having an outlook about how you want love, sex, and intimacy in a relationship to be. It's when people have to rely upon debasing other people (especially entire groups) in order to prop up their arguments and beliefs that it's time to kick rocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:53 PM
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Lol, you sound like an utter moron-- your "disgust" is learned and it's a defense mechanism. That way you don't have to suffer the humiliation of being rejected by someone you think is so easy. You snubbed her first for being a "whore." Lol well, enjoy being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:46 PM
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You're just making misogynistic generalizations. I think most of us may have been raised and socialized to eat up that bullshit but lol, that doesn't make it correct at all. There's nothing inherently disgusting about a woman that has had many sexual partners-- no more than there is for a man. It's also not why you're doing poorly-- as I believe it's safe to assume at this point. It's really funny because you are so confidently wrong and this steadfast conviction is what's going to hold you back…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:30 PM
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You'd compare having sex with eating shit? You don't seem to have any confidence in your own perspective without erroneously assuming a consensus with "most men." I can tell you that no one outside your circle are interested in what you're interested in changing about society or not. You are the one that wants a change though-- because women can fuck whomever they want and it's not hurting them or anyone else. You'd have this change reversed and take us back to a time where women had relatively …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:05 PM
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The way you frame that is like it's biological or something-- but you wouldn't ever know someone's count. Hell, even if they told you they could be lying. There is no involuntary disgust-- it would be a learned cultural phenomenon. As we know, there's nothing universal about that and it's not a characteristic you can apply as the general rule (which doesn't exist).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:35 PM
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I've noticed both men and women advertise this like it's a personality trait and on the surface it is a little annoying lol. BUT-- I think most of the time it's just people with a genuine love/obsession with traveling (we all have our things) and they want to find people that share that passion. Makes sense, they'd be more compatible. The next most common use though is using it as a flex imo since frequent world travel typically requires a good income and a lot of financial freedom in general-- …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:44 PM
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I mean, technically I don't think anyone needs to and most people that do are actively harming themselves because they're adopting some very rigid ideas and convictions about things they admittedly don't or "can't" experience and it just makes it more difficult for them in the future, and they become bitter and some head down the path to worse stuff. I've seen so many angsty but detailed write ups on this sub that confidently yet incorrectly break down the entire dynamic of the dating world and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:35 PM
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Honestly, most of the talking points about N-count are just mental gymnastics and coping mechanisms for individuals that aren't happy with how their sex lives and relationships are going, and since that's difficult for their egos to handle they blame women and other extrinsic forces because it's painful to think that it's just something about them (even if it's completely within their power to change if some effort is put in). I've noticed a few trends I can slightly empathize with and that's pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:18 PM
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Okay, so for you it's more about average partners per year? So, 1 per year is fine but you'd start scrutinizing at 2+ new partners per year? Or is that like an absolute cutoff with no exceptions? Don't take this as backhanded-- but is there any insight you can provide on why this isn't still somewhat arbitrary? Or does that matter? Anyway, thanks for the transparency so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 08:58 PM
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Ok, thanks for clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:23 PM
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I'm curious, but I have noticed a lot of people (overwhelmingly people that have relatively low limits compared to the impressions I'd always had) mention this characterized as a "rule of thumb." The thing is although some people seem to be citing the same rule, there seems to be a fair amount of variation. Could you elaborate on where these so-called rules of thumb come from? Or are you (and probably many others) just really loosely using that idiom to refer to your own personal set of rules? N…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 05:31 PM
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What percentage of phrenologists support this theory?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 04:42 AM
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Be cringepilled. Just own everything about your interests and who you are and like it. Take pride, don't hesitate to get into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:34 AM
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I've known many women that enjoyed being one of the guys and could roll with all the punches, and dish out as well as they took it. A few I can think of were complete savages and some of the funniest women or rather people I've met. One of my best relationships was with a woman that flippantly talked shit because that was their sense of humor. She almost always had a clever and occasionally ruthless comeback and it was badass. Things didn't work out for other reasons but I remember loving to cut…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:24 AM
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It's also interesting how much overlap there is with RP fellas that share these complaints and guys that apply such a survival of the fittest mantra ruthlessly to everything else. Don't think the distribution of wealth and opportunity is fair? You're just mad and hating on other people's success. Have my taxes used to help other people and raise the baseline for society to help eliminate poverty and lower social costs on everyone? Nah, fuck that those people just want handouts. Subsidize univers…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:14 PM
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Heh.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:56 PM
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I hooked up with someone as a rebound when my last relationship ended and the guy was awesome, we had talked about kinks and he did absolutely everything I said I was into but even still, I didn't cum. Wow, that's really interesting. I've been a rebound before so just getting some unique insight from the other side of that coin is fascinating. I honestly don't think I would have intuited something like this-- typically as a rebound if you start falling for the person you're dating and then they …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:15 PM
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See, I am encountering this take frequently and I think that's entirely valid. I think when it breaks down is when it's stretched to debase/undermine people (usually women) that have high counts-- like generalizations that people that have a lot of casual sex have poor value systems or an inability to be faithful, etc. Having a preference based on values and/or wanting a partner with similar experience levels both hold some merit on their own for various reasons. Not saying it's how everyone sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:36 PM
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You're preaching to the choir with me because you pretty much just wrote out my perspective on this. It doesn't matter to me at all and my opinion is it shouldn't matter at all. You are the person you are in the present-- not your past (not that an extensive sexual past is necessarily bad anyway, js).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:20 PM
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Either way, values are also important personal preferences so I still respect your POV. I could completely disagree with your values for all I know, too-- but that wouldn't change anything. I still think that's a completely reasonable standard to want for a partner to share your important values.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:17 PM
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You are ready to take the trials and become a full Jedi master.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:12 PM
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Lol, thanks. (Real talk though I noticed this is a frequent subject-- I didn't realize that when I posted it. I think I've been on this sub for about 2 weeks now).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:11 PM
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That seems to be the trend I've picked up on and I think it's the aspect of this preference that I feel some empathy for-- and that's people that just want their experience level to be relatively even with their SO's. Let me know if you agree that's an accurate way to characterize your preference here. Although this specifically doesn't matter to me in choosing a mate-- I think it's very understandable and I respect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:05 PM
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It seems odd to me that people would ask body counts. Like at what point do you ask and decide if the count is a make or break? Yeah, I've actually asked this on multiple occasions because I don't even know at what stage that would be prudent to bring up or how someone would supposedly do that in an appropriate way. Like what's the best way to even ask that question if for some reason you're so driven to know it? If you're going to disqualify someone like that with zero tolerance then it seems l…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:00 PM
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This is awesome-- thank you for posting this take because I completely agree with you and I feel like this perspective has a tendency to get drowned out by a louder chorus of grievances that are frequently made here by a particularly frustrated and often bitter cohort. That's a major component of why I posted this is because I wanted the diversity of answers to reveal how subjective and unproductive this specific number is to focus on. No offense to religious people but no woman I'm interested i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:10 PM
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Okay. I feel like the biggest trend I'm noticing is that most answers seem to revolve around wanting some level of parity. For example your upper limit is in the ballpark of your count. Same seems to hold true for a lot of people here whether their counts are 0 or 20. I've found some exceptions but I think this is the most prominent trend in the preferences people have responded with. Would you say that you'd characterize your own limit that way, now having considered it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:36 PM
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Would you care to elaborate on the reasoning behind that? On its face that seems a bit unequal but I still don't have a lot to go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:32 PM
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Lol, did they mention their age somewhere that I missed? I wouldn't say 10 isn't a lot for a 15 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:20 PM
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Okay. In regard to your preferences-- is that to ensure you both have a similar level of experience-- or is it a limit you'd place on women for some specific reason(s)? Just curious, not an interrogation/ammo collection.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:12 PM
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I guess I'd have to imagine that since that's not what I'm doing. I didn't know there was a post format where OP shouldn't participate? Regardless, you haven't read through it all yet if that is your impression. Since you mention it though, how is it that I feel? Just curious what you've pegged that as.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:51 PM
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Just curious, would that limit be higher if you had a higher count personally, or is yours already higher than that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:36 PM
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Yes, I've noticed a handful of these myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:33 PM
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Well, that's commendable restraint if nothing more and I'm glad that worked out for the two of you (I hope I'm correct in assuming lol). It's all about whatever works for the people in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:48 PM
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Exactly. Speaking for myself, it's not important.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:36 PM
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So, a quarter of guys from 18-30 are virgins-- and we can likely infer that there is a bit of a curve there too? Probably more heavily weighted toward the 18 end rather than the 30. So, what's your point? What math should I be doing? Are you sticking exclusively to online dating? Gonna severely hinder your experience if you intend to date but don't get out and meet real people regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:46 AM
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Lmao ok got it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:35 AM
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I know the pressure starts early but if you're 15 you don't have anything to be concerned about if you're still an O.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:32 AM
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No problem dude. Good luck with it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:05 AM
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I can understand why those circumstances would lead to a bit of insecurity with this issue. I can imagine I might feel similarly if in your shoes. It can make you feel somewhat (regardless if rationally) insignificant because of the massive disparity between your experience levels. She would be most or all of your experience, while you'd be 1/71th of hers. That definitely could be easy to form a complex around, regardless of whether it was rational or reflective of reality. As for the why's that…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:39 AM
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Yes, preach. Supply and demand shape all of it and that can't be blamed on anyone really. Just imagine if there were only like 1/4 of the male population altogether. Things would be very different-- again no one's fault, not one gender/sex abusing the other-- just different supply and demand. Even some of these guys that are terrified of women would have an easy go-- either that or sex bot technology would advance a lot... idk. I smoked about 20 minutes ago so bear that in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:01 AM
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Would you really love that? Just wondering why it's so important. I try to entertain this perspective but I can't see what the loss ever is. You meet someone that you're interested in and they're great and you have a good relationship and decide to make a commitment. Why would the literal number of sexual partners they've had in the past matter at all in that scenario? What if you met someone and you really liked her and it happened to be mutual and you ended up with a girlfriend that was really…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:53 AM
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Yeah, same here. I felt like 10 was on the low end by 25. At least among my peer group all throughout college and afterward.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:47 AM
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Not that I agree with that, but that's not what the post is asking. What is a high count in your opinion-- like what number or range? Any expounding on why and if this is equal for both parties or not and why is also welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:46 AM
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Could you elaborate on how you reach that estimation? Like, do you know the n counts of several other friends or something to base that on? Just wondering, not an interrogation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:31 AM
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Ok cool. Thank you, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:29 AM
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Yep! It's honestly what I was expecting/hoping to see. Wanted to make that point without saying it out loud, while still getting to read the room a bit. Having said so bluntly might have influenced the responses. Now, more people that read through here that thought things were so homogenous can see that even within this small lens of a community that there is still a huge variance here. It's not reliable to be used as a standard or basis for a generalization as it's so frequently done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:29 AM
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Lmao... this answer https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/vr9mmq/comment/ieuflhn/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:24 AM
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So damn right, every word. I'd also be more concerned about the 1-5. What potential reservations are going to be faced there? I don't mean that in a debasing way either, it's just a valid concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:22 AM
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huh, how many people find ideal? lol they settle. Regardless of what you'd or anyone would like to call it-- until that person commits to a long-term relationship-- for the sake of clarity. If they don't settle and don't find their ideal than of the 2 options: run through people for casual sex or being "chaste" (in actuality read as just masturbate), is it hard to see which would be more desirable for a long term relationship? I think the had part is seeing why there invariably would have to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:14 AM
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Yoooo this is much more what I had in mind all my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:55 AM
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Yeah, see this is much more the ballpark that I thought everyone was playing in until I stumbled upon this place. That's why I said I didn't think I had a high count-- which is somewhere between 20-30 but I lost count tbh, was not keeping tabs specifically past a certain really young age. I'm in my mid 30s. So, you at 59, I'd have considered maybe above average or upper end of average. Definitely known people that had 3 digits, and well aware that there are some people with more. You'd be open t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:54 AM
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Hell yeah. It's also dope when they bring their own kinks to the table because it can mean a lot of fun. Lol, one of my best friends loves to mention what a freak his wife is. They've been together for years-- very happy married 30's one kid (so far) couple. The bedroom makes such a big difference in the quality of a relationship. I wouldn't leave it to chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:47 AM
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Do you have a lot of experience with exes that carried excessive baggage from their large amount of exes? I'm just curious where that assumption comes from or if it's purely just assumption. I could definitely see people saying that-- but I've dated plenty of people that also had plenty of experience an only one ever had some weird shit going on with a crazy ex and I just had to step away from that because it's just not worth it. Otherwise, I'm not sure how that relates to the issue of raising k…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:38 AM
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Oh, do you exclusively date through OLD? In other words, you'd never have a situation where you met someone that you wanted to date in person? Or would you just ask them in person like, I might be interested in you so can you tell me how many people you've slept with? I'm just curious because outside of whatever norms have been etched out in the OLD corner, I don't know of a socially appropriate way to ask that information of a dating prospect you meet in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:34 AM
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Well, what if someone is going through their adult life and they haven't found the ideal partner and relationship yet? Should they just be abstinent? Or is it fair for people to tend to their sexual needs outside of a relationship if that's what the circumstances allow for? If it's wrong, I'm just curious what's wrong about it. Is this a religious thing or something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:31 AM
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Curious, I haven't had many people with low count preferences clarify this but it just occurred to me-- is that for both sides? Or is that just for your potential partner who is M/F?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:28 AM
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Yeah 100%. And they're more comfortable telling me the stuff they like. I'm all about making sure my partner has a good time because that gets me off the most and honestly it's a nice ego boost... come on I'm human lol. But I genuinely want to make sure she has a good time. Best evidence of that is she comes back.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:26 AM
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Yeah, we are pretty much in the same boat here. Honestly, I would never find out unless she brought it up. If I date someone that fucks like they have experience, I'm going to assume the experience is there. Doesn't bother me at all, in fact it's a good thing. The numbers get a lot higher than some people think. Doesn't matter, you're whom they're with right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:24 AM
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Idk if I'm dumb but this is nagging me... what does the M stand for then? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:20 AM
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Being fortunate enough to make love on your first time as opposed to simply fucking is definitely not something to scoff at. I think in time most people grow to appreciate a balance of both in a healthy sexual relationship. Again though, that should be taken with a grain of salt because everyone's different.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:19 AM
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I think that's a fair point of view though. It's certainly not unwise to want to find a partner that shares similar values with yours and I agree that sex is a very intimate act. You just want someone that will experience it with you the way you experience it with them, I think might be the way to describe it. While I'm not sure that the only way for that to be possible is for you both to have low counts, you've already described that this is sort of also about a personal value to you and everyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:16 AM
1

RMV? Humor me sorry, I'm not of this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:10 AM
1

Fair enough. There's something inherently warm about that and I respect it. I hope that works out for you-- if I had any advice it would be to have patience because it's unlikely to go super smoothly right away but you shouldn't be discouraged. Nobody knows what they're doing at first.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:07 AM
1

Pardon my surprise but 5? Isn't that a bit low, or is that just a personal standard that you're comfortable with?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:04 AM
1

Don't you think that might be oversimplifying things? Couldn't they say the same thing about people that can't find a serious relationship? Also, what do you mean about casual sex? Are you against it or just saying you don't care?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:02 AM
1

Could you elaborate? Do you mean because you consider your count to be exceptionally high? Is there any wiggle room with "higher?" What if it was literally just 1 or 2 more? Also, how and at what stage in your relationship do you learn this info?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:00 AM
1

Could you possibly explain why that's a significant consideration, and at that threshold? I'm not saying you should have any preference-- just curious why you have yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:57 AM
1

Wow, you don't think that's kind of low? People live for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:56 AM
1

Absolutely, in my opinion. That's why I'm asking for each individual's take on this. For one thing, I want to see if there are any trends at all. My assumption is there will be a few trends but ultimately, this is an inherently subjective topic that probably shouldn't be so frequently referred to like a standard, as it commonly is here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:54 AM
1

Interesting, that's the 2nd answer specifically referring to 10
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:52 AM
1

So... it's been awhile since I played Siege but that's 5v5 right? So, more than 10 people and that's a lot and more importantly-- too many? Just curious, how do you find this out and at what stage? I've never asked a girlfriend or sexual partner how many men she'd been with for example-- how is this done?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:50 AM
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Yeah I have never asked this before and honestly was only asked this by one girlfriend ever and that was in high school. I always just assume whomever it is I'm dating has sexual experience unless they state otherwise at some point. It's not a dealbreaker to be relatively inexperienced but personally I prefer people that have some sexual experience and level of comfort with what happens in the bedroom. It's more fun and it's easier to find sexual chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:47 AM
1

Any particular reason why you feel the need to hold out for a virgin (regardless of if you ever compromised)?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:43 AM
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Yeah, I definitely believe there are people that fudge their numbers whether it be up or down.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:42 AM
1

This sub is fucking wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 03:25 AM
14

Wait... you saying no women are unmarried by choice? What? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:55 AM
1

Black pill is just out of the closet red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:52 AM
4

For real. Straight up denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:51 AM
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You should try masturbating before you write a post as a general procedure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:48 AM
1

I don't really get the point of considering the circumstances of the relationships that wealthy celebrity men and women have-- and whether any part of those relationships hinged upon success/money. How is that applicable to regular people or in any way a good indicator to examine? Melania, Beyonce, Gisele-- these are all fantasy scenarios to the normal person, and they are also very few examples just in general. Whether unconditional love truly exists or not isn't what you're discussing here: I …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 11:55 PM
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I think you're in a great position here, because this can lead to opportunities to meet a lot more women that are potential love interests. After all, you are a trusted and well-loved friend to many of these women so they have the potential to help hook you up with other women to date, and also there really isn't a better wingman than a woman. You could even tell them you're interested in meeting someone for the sex/romance and they'll be stoked to help you. This has always been my experience be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:24 AM
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Why? There's a lot of truth to that in most cases-- whether if it's about personality getting in the way of or not holding interest, or it's about personality on an internal level preventing someone from exploring other ways of socializing and meeting the opposite sex-- or even really trying in the first place. Spending a lot of time and effort on OLD doesn't count. That's avoidance of probably the most important part of dating-- meeting people. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:04 AM
1

Had a long relationship that began that way. My (now ex for a long time) gf literally walked up to me and said "Hey," almost in a pick-up line kind of way. It was funny af. I had never met her before. We talked and things progressed pretty fast from there. This started way back late in high school so I'd take it with a grain of salt, but I had a long relationship with her on and off for nearly 5 years and well into college. We broke up several times and dated other people. Otherwise, would be fw…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:14 AM
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Yeah, I wouldn't say that research on OLD is necessarily irrelevant altogether... but yeah you're exactly right about the cherrypicking that takes place. Research on OLD should be taken with a grain of salt because it's a self-imposed constraint for most people. What I'm saying is that only dating through OLD is a choice most of the time when other options are available but unexplored.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:59 AM
1

There are no good takes on either extreme end of this spectrum or any spectrum. The more extreme a take is, typically the worse it is for various reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:11 AM
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YES thank you. It was already pretty farcical that data exclusively applying to the OLD sphere was being applied as a blanket generalization about dating as a whole-- but the fact that these variables are completely ignored in this faux-scientific approach to understanding dating only makes it more laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:59 AM
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Yup, this is also because lesbians tend to "U-haul" (get into monogamous LTRs quickly) which takes away part of the "purpose" of a lesbian bar. Is this really true? The reason I ask/doubt is anecdotal, but I was friends with a large circle of lesbian women in college. I just happened to have a mutual friend and then started buying weed from one of these women. She frequently hooked me up, and we actually slept together at one point casually because she occasionally swung the other way. Over the …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:48 AM
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Just out of curiosity-- do you support other ideologies based around equal opportunity? For example-- hypothetically you've just encountered the policy proposals for mandatory baseline universal benefits and healthcare to eliminate poverty and the social costs it comes with-- thereby creating at least a substantial baseline of equal opportunity to food, shelter, medicine, and education. Does that strike you as a reasonably desirable endeavor-- or should people just pull themselves up and "stop l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:30 AM
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It doesn't really, because it's still just an anecdote. It's still very much an issue that mostly only inexperienced guys worry about. No one expresses more insecurity with this than they do by a long shot and that's no coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:59 AM
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You put it so well. This is such a fantastic take and I'm glad to see some other guys in here that think like this. Respect, and good luck-- I hope you find whatever you're looking for or it finds you bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 02:57 AM
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The 80% thing doesn't hold water. It's not real scientific studies and even if it were, they focus entirely on swiping apps and OLD. None of this is majority representative of the entire dating world. This is a contained bubble of the dating world and the biggest mistake is actually trying to date seriously through any of them. Set up your hookup profile, make that clear that's all it's for, and have a good time or don't. OLD is always going to be a somewhat shallow experience because it's all b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 02:54 AM
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You're being reductionist to mischaracterize what he was saying. That particular statement applies also to women-- he just didn't disclaim it. Whether he believes so or not is irrelevant-- because women were not the subject in this thread of argument. What he said was technically true, thus valid. You don't need polls to tell that our society does not reward morality and thus no one benefits toward material gain/normal climbing of social status by focusing on the moral. You're being pedantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 01:54 AM
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Disagreeing with me has nothing to do with it. The person made a generalization-- not a fan of generalizations either-- lol but you accused him of misandry which is just an absolute reach. Seemed like a pretty naked attempt to undermine the person making the argument-- because you couldn't actually debate the argument. You could've called out the generalizing without trying to shut down the debate but you have no substantive reply. It's not just true about men, but everyone. Being moral is not u…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 12:57 AM
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No, but basing it on their behavior and the things they say is valid, and that's what you're judged by.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 12:49 AM
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No one implied all men-- just men like you and you're no majority. Coming from a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 11:45 PM
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They're all the first ones to beat themselves up in their own heads. I'm not good looking enough. I'm not tall enough. I'm not rich enough.... lol, so I suppose the millions of men in relationships that aren't all or even any of those things are in committed relationships-- some of them good and successful? They're always in their own way, taking themselves down... then blame it on the girl team lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 11:44 PM
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Absolutely agree. Most of these behaviors are reinforced by traditional, obsolete cultural norms that are no longer being adhered to as they were usually oppressive or just plain stupid. They're relics of times past and hopefully disappear over time sooner rather than later-- because it's inevitable. These guys that think anything will ever permanently take us backward from this trajectory are delusional. There will be pitfalls like some that are being faced now regarding women's rights that are…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 11:34 PM
1

Dude, you're really a lot dumber than you think. Attractive is completely subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 11:23 PM
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Burden of proof is on you to prove your points, not me to disprove them. Not that I didn't completely take them apart. You just don't like your answers. Enjoy loneliness. Lol bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 10:20 PM
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I already destroyed your entire pov, you just don't like the answers. Insecure baby. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 10:19 PM
1

So much this! All this wanting it to be harder for the other, smh. I pinged my gaming group's discord politics channel today and asked them if this weird red pill shit was something they commonly saw anywhere other than online. Specifically addressed the younger people, because our friend group includes zoomers through boomers (not to mention pretty much every category and walk of life) and there's a lot of people in the discord tagged up for politics. Got several responses and the answer was wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 07:57 PM
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Lol, how would you know? Just mad they don't let you in too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 06:39 PM
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You need to reread it. Nothing about this take places blame off of anything you have control over. You can't complain about her standards and she can't complain about yours. But, she's not in this scenario-- because she's with another dude. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 04:35 PM
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🥴 good one
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 03:12 PM
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Lmao, oh no you don't. You would find them perfectly fair-- not just because they don't impair you-- but because they are. There's more parity than there's ever been. It's cool though... go ahead and tell us how good you do. I bet you totally crush brah 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:57 PM
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Haha nah I didn't. I'm not a racist so I'm not around racist shit a lot, so I don't pick up on it always. I'm guessing it was the inkwell thing? That's the only thing that seems to fit. Anyway, pretty re****ed thing to be proud of doing, but you do you. Should put those jokes in your Tinder bio. You still won't get any real matches but you'll be edgy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:55 PM
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What do you really know about new couples? How many times you been a couple, my guy? Not everyone does the same exact things, there are no uniform phases that literally everyone covers. There are some things that are more normally expected but everything is individual. This is so ridiculous lol. I already addressed the number 6 so you can stop focusing on that. It's not necessarily at all the real number. It very well could be 3. I couldn't remember, so I put a range. I wouldn't have if I though…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:50 PM
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Lmao ok you know what dude? Let's just pretend you haven't made your opinions clear. Now's your chance to clear the air. What do you really think? Are you a poor oppressed boi or do you just man up and be better and get women while the other pussies complain? Standards fair or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:30 PM
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Did your wide range of experience with women and relationships tell you this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:27 PM
1

Firstly "6 months" was the high end of the range and it was generous. Secondly-- this doesn't mean she hasn't been horny. Lol how stupid. It just means she has been abstaining from having sex. You think people that aren't having sex never get horny? Do you never get horny?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:25 PM
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I dont criticize how long you'll wait for sex, im criticizing the fact that they are making YOU wait but not OTHER GUYS wait and you are fine with that so thats telling. Lol, but it's not telling, you're just a salty r****d with such a fragile ego that you can't handle something like this-- when in reality there are plenty of valid reasons why someone might decide they aren't doing that anymore. And what someone chooses to do with their body is their choice! I don't have to pursue this woman-- t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:16 PM
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Bro, you know that post isn't about me lmao. Nice one though. Look dude, you can try to criticize how long I'll wait for sex if I really have strong feelings for a woman (it's not like casual sex is hard to get when I'm not dating someone)-- but until a woman will have sex with you, sorry but that's an L. You can't even admit your own opinion right now because of the shame lmao I love this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:08 PM
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Right, you're trying to pull some direct turnabout here lol. Yet, it's me that's cool with women's standards, and you that's crying about them and need them lowered. But sure, I'm the one with girl problems. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 01:58 PM
1

That's a lot of words arranged really stupidly just to say 'no u.'
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 01:55 PM
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Yeah, I realized that was how you're trying to broadstroke this, since you've got nothing. No love life, no justification for your beliefs, no grasp of how you're in your own way. Lol. It's okay. Like I give a shit what dudes like you think about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 01:52 PM
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I know another common reason is that sex too early migh put the possible relationship in jeopardy. How exactly? Sometimes it can interfere with how the relationship develops emotionally. The sex you had with them if you got it very early on like you seem to expect inevitably would not be as good as sex that came after you had developed some emotional intimacy and comfort also. Leaving something really desirable to look forward to for a period of time is not only smart but it only makes it better…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 01:49 PM
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Lmao, tfw a guy that gets no pussy tries to make a homophobic jab. Big dub there bro. I hear women are gonna lower their standards for ya now
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 01:21 PM
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Lmao, says a guy that thinks women have too high of standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 01:20 PM
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Yeah, I remember that. Fucking abhorrent. Well, I hope your brother gives that guy some shit sometimes lol. That's what all these little weenies need.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 12:15 PM
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FDS? Idk what your dumb acronyms mean, I don't normally mix with you lot. So society (Or ekhm, old women in bright hair) is conditioning girls to be as "sexually free" as possible, and when that is met with reality- that men do not like this, there is anger! Lmao, that's absolutely full r****d mentality. You think you are representative of a majority of men-- but you're not. You're in the minority of men that won't be passing down their genes unless by extreme luck or doing something really mess…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 12:10 PM
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Yup. One thing I haven't noticed yet is it permeating any public/offline social spheres of any reach. I don't doubt there's stone some fringe exists somewhere but I mostly only see this kind of attitude/talk online. These guys aren't even comfortable enough with the validity of their own ideas that they'll be public with them. I think that reflects that they know what they want is unfair but just don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 11:31 AM
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And instead of rising to the challenge of being better than what society had laid out for everyone for so long-- it's all boohoo and let's brainstorm on how to make it all go back. Smh, I have to laugh about it because otherwise I'd just get down on how disappointing people are... again lmao. Hope for humanity? Not without more natural selection at this rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 11:23 AM
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That's not what that means, you sound illiterate. Goddamn you and your ilk are so fucking dumb. Unsuccessful until the day you die, forever blaming everyone else, never learning, always crying. Darwin sends his regards to your genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 10:52 AM
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JFC this is dumb... I'm kinda speechless.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 10:47 AM
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What do you mean #notlikeotherguys. No my unsuccessful degen-- that's you and your problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 10:43 AM
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YES. Like the blatant hypocrisy is... idk it's dumfounding lol... because it seems paired with a completely impaired self-awareness. The fact that we were always essentially encouraged by society to raise our "body count" (goddamn, I'm not even old and these new terms are just the cringiest shit)-- while women were always shamed and belittled for even looking like they might! Hell, I remember girls in junior high and high school that were by all reasonable accounts (obviously I can't know 100% o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:39 AM
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You're the one that's cringe, dude. You can't even get a woman and you feel threatened by the women I described. Stay mad though. Someone will care someday. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:29 AM
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I mean, a lot of the girls I dated cheated with me, after we were done dating. Probably no one you have the nerve to talk to though lol. Get all frozen when you see an attractive woman. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:26 AM
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It's so weird for this to bother them so much because it's not like the specific individuals complaining actually experienced what they're supposedly losing, not to mention they can't see any of the benefits in this for themselves. A fully self-actualized woman, with complete power over herself and comfort with her sexuality-- god that is so fucking sexy. She doesn't need to be "old" either to fit this description as I'm sure some less astute people might insist. Many women stay "beautiful"-- fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:07 AM
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Lmao, I think that's what keeps pulling me back. I see these outrageously stupid pity brigading posts constantly if I have reddit open. I would just take it off my front page but that would be too easy on the other pity party guests and hosts...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:54 AM
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If that's the choice someone wants to make, who are you to have any bullshit to say? What are you crying about?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:47 AM
1

That's why the guys complaining about not getting fucked are complaining though. The standards aren't that low.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:05 AM
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Lol wait... me or the post I'm referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:03 AM
1

Nice self own. I'm not OP. Only reason for him to be sarcastic with that statement is because butthurt-- but honestly didn't read like sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:02 AM
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About one time for ever 600 posts about it... jfc it's like an obsession.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 07:23 AM
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Maybe just not fuckin a dude is what they see as the safest and best type of birth control in this situation, and that's what they're doing. No one should have a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 07:07 AM
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Heheh, yeah I can attest that when even the cops take your side (after you called them)... it's probably pretty fair to comment on her mental stability. Yeah, there's a story, but it's too long. TLDR she got a trespass warning and they let her drive home drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 06:55 AM
1

Yes! Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 06:53 AM
1

The most profound thing about this is that things are much more equal today than they ever had been in the past, in terms of standards and in terms of choice in general. It's so incredible to me that the rampant multitudes of these posts gloss completely over that. They simply bemoan that women's station in life has improved-- but not acknowledging that all it has been so far is catching up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 06:49 AM
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We all know this study that men can find a huge number of women pretty or even attractive but women would only find 1 or two men "average looking" or maybe handsome. Lol, no we don't know any such thing. This isn't exactly supported with wide ranges of studies and data. Most of the cited crap I see about this is data gathered specifically about online dating OLD. There's all kinds of average and not super handsome-looking fellows out there that are happy in relationships with women that are attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 06:10 AM
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That's some contrived-ass drama and you're in a very transactional relationship that was never good. The writing was definitely on the wall, but you just ignored it cuz desperate. If you have a good relationship with someone, this isn't an issue that frequently happens or that you truly ever worry about. Has it even happened to you in actuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:56 AM
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Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 04:32 AM
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The question is a non sequitur when you consider that the reality isn't exactly what they think, nor is it remotely universal. Different women want different things at different times, all people go through phases, strong romantic emotions add a lot more weight to the act for many people-- whereas casual sex can be... much less intimate. You'd understand of course (and maybe do) if you have casual sex and also have had sex with someone you cared deeply for. Life priorities are usually different …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:54 AM
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Brother, I think I can help. First of all, I'm not recommending that you fake this, but I suppose you can do whatever you want. You could probably benefit from working on talking to women just in general. The best way to do this is to actually have real girl friends (platonic). First of all, they can be cool af and you're cheating yourself if you are one of those dudes that ruins chances for good friendships out of resentment for the "friendzone"-- so don't be one of those dudes. Look at them an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 12:20 AM
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Birth control doesn't always work, sometimes it gets missed too. It's very effective but not perfect. Lol, you're acting like absentee fathers and single mothers with no support is something new or novel.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:51 PM
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Haha, do you struggle with women? Because I don't! Funny though, it's always the ones that can't even get a woman that are so concerned about being a C word. Lmao. Like, nah you got no chance. This guy here in this post is giving mister crying in my gf had a 3some a run for his money though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:28 PM
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Well, this is a discussion board, excuse me for... discussing. You seem to be invested in proving your viewpoint and not want to change your opinion, either. So that was unnecessary. Perhaps because you want to justify you wearing makeup all the time? (I'm copying your style here) It's because I'm actually right here. Lol. And I'm a cis hetero man that gets laid mostly when he wants so idk if you just thought I was a woman the whole time and that made you a little more zealous but bro, this trac…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:19 PM
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No, I didn't explicitly condone it, nor was that ever the argument. I'm saying they are two different things, genius-- and they are. My judgment that this is potentially the least harmful/ no big deal is when both parties are trying to get sex only-- and I still explained why it was harmful in general. You are still grasping for straws at one of the dumbest arguments I think I've ever seen. Why is it so important to you to validate this? lol. There is nothing shady about wearing makeup, but ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:09 PM
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The PUA says that he's just improving/modifiying his behaviour to fit what a culture/individual prefers. Kinda like in a job interview. It doesn't matter if someone confidently says some bullshit... they're still bullshitting. Just like people do in job interviews-- then get jobs they aren't qualified for-- and it becomes obvious after they work there, and all their coworkers hate them for being so useless but still getting paid. By the same logic, PUAs are good because they're making women happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:43 PM
1

The guy that complained about finding out his girl had a threesome with her girl friend and a guy some time in the past 3-4 years when she was in college... but made him wait until they were together something like a few months before letting him fuck (maybe as much as 6? I truly can't remember. 6 is kind of long and I don't think it was that long, but at that point they had been together for 10 months so he'd at least been getting it for 4 months minimum. Ultimately, I'm too lazy to open anothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:34 PM
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Yeah, because that's real smooth and totally always happens, and you can always trust a guy to give you his accurate info. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:20 PM
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This only gets more off base the further you go. You're really not interested in changing your view. There is no lie in wearing makeup. You can tell a woman is wearing makeup-- in fact probably most of the time it's even what you expect. Don't pretend it's remotely the same thing. This is really a desperate reach-- you seem invested in justifying trying to be a PUA (maybe to yourself?). If it means being a faker/phony... sorry but you suck. If it just means being good at picking up the opposite …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:17 PM
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Yes! This is a dire societal danger and injustice! Okay... time to go back to binging Jordan Peterson videos! He so smaht!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:12 PM
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No, it's really a terrible comparison. I know you probably think I'm attacking you but I'm helping you. Lol. Putting on makeup isn't even universally attractive for women across every culture-- and there are cultures where it's attractive for men. All it is about is improving appearance. If it's all about hookups, that only makes it more okay. Tricking someone into thinking you're someone they'd be comfortable sleeping with (as opposed to your real personality) is literally premeditated deceptio…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:05 PM
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It's... not usually customary to follow the first date with that, is what I'll say lol But yeah, I can imagine that would be humiliating. Take someone on a date and they never realized.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:59 PM
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This is dope. I love people that like clear communication and just like to say what they want and prefer straight talk from the people they date. Authenticity should never be taken for granted. I resisted really hard making a joke about going greek on the first date. My restraint is to be commended.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:27 PM
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Not if they aren't identified as the father or are complete deadbeats and have no money. It can be pretty hard to track down a one-nighter. We certainly don't live in a world where everyone that owes child support pays it...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:15 PM
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Maybe, people just do different things to enhance their physical attractiveness, thanks to things like culture and different preferences that shape how people learn to do this-- but in principle that is what they are all doing and thus the same thing-- look more attractive. Fundamentally different than faking a personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:09 PM
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Miss 100% of the shots you never take
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:07 PM
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God these comparisons get more wild every day. This is such a reach, because neither of these things is restricted to either gender/sex, first of all. Secondly, makeup is something everyone in our culture is aware about and understand-- and a lot of men certainly make no secret that they like for their partners to wear makeup at least sometimes. Trying to be a PUA isn't the same thing at all because you're basically trying to fake a different personality. Now, if being a PUA to someone just mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:05 PM
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I don't think there's much parity in the severity of these consequences... nor the sacrifices potentially needed to have a better time, so to speak. I will say although I don't agree 100% I definitely will say this is far from the worst take to ever hit this sub since I've joined, and I haven't been here that long. You really nail it about pretty much putting yourself in the other's shoes. People aren't necessarily out to always hurt or screw another person over, but if they're not interested, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:44 PM
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How much until it adds up to 18+ years of raising a kid... more than likely single for at least the early stages?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:37 PM
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Why won't the women risk a pregnancy with meeeee? Don't they know how bad they're making me feeeeeel?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:37 PM
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Right on. We're very much on the same page. And lol yeah that was a genuine compliment. I was amused because for a second it sounded like something I'd think. (Sorry, about to get busy so no time for an effortful reply. I read the whole thing though, legit).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 04:32 PM
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God this is so low quality of a post lol. Isn't there any quality control on this sub? JFC. There's nothing wrong with one night stands or having sex without the intention of it going anywhere. What weird is your vindictive attitude that this is some kind of just retribution for some injury they caused you-- like "pumping and dumping chicks" is like spreading karma and not being a small, small person. Lol. No wonder things never seemed too hard. This is the competition. JFC.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 04:22 PM
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Ah I gotcha. Lol we think so alike on this. I love your incredulity so much. I think it's just a narrow perception based on limited experience. Basically, having not known a world without online dating, some probably got into that first and are already somewhat fearful of rejection. So when things went badly on OLD, they didn't try anything else, probably feeling defeated and unconfident. Since this is all they experience, it's what some erroneously assume is representative of all dating. Furthe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 04:06 PM
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It's because women have more freedom and independence today-- and they don't necessarily need to rely on a man to provide money/stability. As they age, like all humans they gain experience and become more self-actualized. They know what they want but now, they have more freedom to hold out for it. As they mature, it's pretty intuitive that their standards might as well. I know mine did as I got older and I'm a guy. The compulsion to birth kids and take care of a guy's house before the biological…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 03:52 PM
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Nah, I think it covers a disproportionate amount of the grievances you see and hear in this mostly online discussion. If you observe closely you'll notice an overwhelming number of negative posts refer to some aspect of OLD at some point (even if it's not the direct subject of the complaint, context reveals it's at least of great significance to the issue). They'll also frequently lean on dating stats that are derived strictly from studies on OLD. You rarely see posts about experiences that took…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 03:37 PM
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Only if he exclusively or mostly tries to get women through apps. If you meet women in person, your personality and experience can shine through from the very get go.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 03:34 PM
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My job should lower its expectations for how often I should come in and when I get to leave work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:11 AM
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When are men like you going to learn that no matter how hard you think it's about what you are on paper-- that's not even a fraction of it for a real connection?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:10 AM
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I think the key is how the younger generation seems to have a preference for online dating (OLD). I'm not saying that applies to every individual, so if anyone feels like they've been subject of a blanket statement-- I know that there are exceptions and they're not rare. Still though, many more people of a young age date mostly or exclusively through apps, not having lived through any period of time where that didn't exist as an option. They may not have the same frame of reference from experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:07 AM
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But bro, The Black Book says Stalin only killed like 600k people, dude. He wasn't as bad as your precious CIA makes him out to be, mannnn!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:44 AM
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whoops, clicked on the wrong reply button lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:41 AM
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You can't make that statement for all or "most" other men. Your insecurities about a woman's sexual experience are not as ubiquitous as you'd take comfort in believing. Your opinion on what you think they'd think is relevant though, why? Do you need for there to be a large like minded contingent to validate your beliefs? Sounds like you're not comfortable or willing to entertain the reality that you're among a minority of men. Like maybe your ideas don't stand up so well on their own without a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 01:32 PM
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People need to reintegrate socially with their communities. Dating through apps is not a great standalone option for dating. In fact it can be pretty harmful if the person is doing poorly and this continues to degrade their self esteem, as they continuously ruminate on this one, narrow perspective of dating. The dating apps don't even always work properly, and they're designed to keep you engaging with the app. They're not in the business of matchmaking their market out of their app and into a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 09:33 AM
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The meeedia?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 08:32 AM
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This is so contrived. "Most men." Dude, no way. What does the post even have to do with the title? You're making arbitrary assumptions about kinks and sexual relationships across the board while shoehorning in your not universal insecurities about women with more or different sexual experience than you. It is so weird. There is nothing better than a nympho. One hot nympho is better than a regular ggb threesome easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:57 AM
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There are different kinds of partners, all across a spectrum, and there is nothing to compel an absolutist, reductionist stance on this issue. Ignoring circumstances with an imperative to determine which viewpoint is "right," while casting the other as hypocritical is not a critical examination of the question you're posing. The meaning and feeling that someone has associated with a sexual experience can range all over the place from good to bad. For many people, having sex with someone that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 04:44 AM
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Men have gotten the short end of the stick the last 50 years as more and more get taken away from them which makes it harder and harder to find a partner. Examples? What have men lost aside from primarily the ability to get away with everything and also to practically dictate all terms to women? The abundance of choice, the higher standards, the change in dating culture, have all made it much worse for a man in todays dating world. Well sure, relatively. Diminishing unfair advantages has leveled…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 04:23 AM
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Yeah, stop comparing men's issues to women's-- and ignore the bait if someone tries to do it to you. Make this an unbending policy moving forward. This need to claim victimhood will never go over well. Pay attention to the actual issues instead of fixating on women. Problem solved. I'll take my delta.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 03:16 AM
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That's a really broad, unsubstantiated declaration there. It's too vague to reveal anything measurable or even identifiable. It's assuming an almost hivemind consciousness across the entire female sex, and the conspiracy to break you down and manipulate you. It's honestly absurd, lol. Your perception is warped from these narratives you repeat all the time. Idk if you're struggling with the ladies-- you know, because miraculously everyone complaining about women unfairly manipulating them by with…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 01:14 AM
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What's fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 12:38 AM
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No, I don't disagree with that. I realize people are usually pretty snippy in these subs but I'm not coming at you hot with that. But I did want you to clarify what the "guilty" reference specifically meant. Because not a lot of guys get prosecuted and sentenced for rape. Sentences tend to be absurdly light too. But anyway, I already typed a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:43 AM
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Please read this as monotone because I'm just listing off words. Not sure what your point is about the labels but women have been called all orders of slut, skank, whore, loose, easy, promiscuous, etc. to the full extent of slut shaming and that's all their lives, even just for wearing certain clothes. Lol, virgin women in high school get called sluts unironically sometimes. Not to mention how often references to women reduce them to a physical or sexual attribute or body part. This and also the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:39 AM
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What scale? Unless life only exists in dating apps-- what is the great disparity between men and women that is controlled by women and unrighteously causes suffering to men? This always circles around some vague but broad accusations on society and also women like some collective entity (it's dumb when those of them do it to us...). Like, women aren't a team the same as me and you aren't a team (I'm assuming you're a dude). Plenty of people out there are just living life and doing fine. They don…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:21 AM
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Just curious-- if it's not that-- what is it? Other than not putting out easily enough and/or falling in love immediately with basic people (personality-wise), what are women doing to hurt you? I'm a dude btw. I'm single, women don't throw themselves at me but if I set my mind to it, I can meet and fuck a completely new 7 within a week. I'm 5'8" and like 160lbs. Pretty lean, but currently been kinda lazy so not currently jacked and sculpted. I'd say I'm average looking. I do a bunch of nerd shit…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:10 AM
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Assumed guilty of what? Sexual assault/rape convictions are not exactly handed out like candy. The justice system and pillar of society from which it stems historically turned a deaf ear. The result has been more social backlash. Someone that is unlikely to receive penalty from the system suffer the social consequences. The problem is of course that the court of public opinion is not easily mistaken for due process, and for good reason. Because of that, there are some examples of high profile me…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:54 AM
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Your assessment of what women want is the classic incel assessment though-- and your post history shows a fixation with the subject (one side in particular) that aligns exactly with the typical incel fixation and opinions on the matter. Obsessing about OLD and characterizing all women as shallow, heartless relationship mercenaries. Lol man you can't blame anyone for "mistaking" you for an incel. Furthermore, your so-called experience should give you the insight about how these incel views are cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:24 AM
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Lol yeah, "guys like you." Get outta here dude, you're not fooling anyone with that. I understand why you'd want to cover that bias but yeah no there's no way you even think about this if you're so "successful" as you've called yourself elsewhere. You make posts on this subject a lot. Your dating pool today still covers everyone in your area. You have the same opportunities. It's socially awkward men with a warped view of attractiveness and masculinity that always have this problem. Ultimately, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 08:04 PM
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They're not really options. OLD doesn't have a high return on lasting relationships. The only real disparity is the ease to get sex through OLD and nothing will ever change that, save for a male depopulation lol. There is literally no problem here. Guys that are struggling need to change something about what they're doing-- and also stop tying it all to their ego/manhood. This entire bitchfest of a subject comes purely from male insecurity, full stop. Plenty of men are just fine, there is no cri…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 07:15 PM
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But that's not what you're saying here. You're making a generalized statement about men and women respective to dating, and citing stats that only focus on OLD apps. OLD isn't dating until you're actually going on physical dates. People that choose to only meet people through OLD are just gonna have to deal with its shortcomings because it can't be any better besides better bot elimination. It's ridiculous how this gets thrown into the pill debate about sex (seems to be a fallback for many to tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 12:38 PM
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Lol, more guys that won't just go outside raging about the experience of dating through a cellphone app-- and blaming it on women. Sadge. Come back to the debate when you've really tried dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:58 AM
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So damn right.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:07 AM
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Because that's not a fair requirement to put on a friend and not everyone is good at that or comfortable with that. Maybe you're reminded of a specific situation with a specific person-- maybe that person wasn't a good friend but it wouldn't be only because they weren't helpful with your girl problems/desires. I can tell you there's no magic formula but you will find yourself getting laid if you can learn to forget about wanting to fuck the women you're hanging out with. Take all the pressure of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 03:31 AM
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Yeah, do you know the difference between all and some? So the ones being hurt in your opinion are the women without access to murdering babies born from the choices they have made consciously barring extreme circumstances as rape or life of mother in jeopardy. Except for the fact that these are not babies being "murdered" (not even babies yet in all but the rarest of exceptions, usually ones where neither the baby or mother will survive the birth), yes that would be the party I'm referring to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 02:50 AM
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That doesn't mean anything and you're avoiding the point. Or is the fact you didn't address the real meat of the comment because you're just tacitly accepting/agreeing/w it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 02:15 AM
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That is so oversimplified. Like a friendship platitude from a movie about high school. You're saying a friend that's a girl is not a friend aka not worth anything if she isn't laying you or trying to get you laid. You've discounted literally everything else friends do. You don't value women as actual people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 02:04 AM
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What? Maybe she's not comfortable with that for other reasons? Maybe she knows she doesn't know anyone that's into you at the moment and doesn't want to gut punch you with that info? She might just not be good at it or have many gfs either. Maybe she knows you're not attracted to any of the ones that would be interested. You've written off so many possibilities. Do you constantly try to hook up all of your single friends? Are you always able to? Is it something you think about much or do you spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 01:54 AM
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You're pigeonholing all feminists because of your insecurity with women-- not because they're all douchebags. There are douchebags in practically every circle. Pretty sure anyone that has ever said or cosigned on with the "fuck your feelings" contingent has no leg to stand on with that. Not saying that's necessarily you, and if not then congratulations, you still have a chance to be a decent person. Also, I referenced the comparison you made.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 01:42 AM
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That's what they're doing when they're not fucking you bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 01:37 AM
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So to be 100% clear... you're saying you believe no woman on earth can be your friend unless she's fucking you or trying to help you get fucked?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 01:35 AM
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Interesting how much overlap there is with the "dating should be fairer" crowds and the "fuck your feelings" crowds...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 10:07 PM
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How can you be this close and miss the point? This is exactly the answer to all of your grievances.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 09:12 PM
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Are having a gun or the right to worship a magic man in the sky human rights? Is having air to breathe and food to eat? Where's the line at?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 09:10 PM
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Failing to reproduce is some individuals' role in evolution. Just because your genes aren't carrying on doesn't mean others' aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 09:07 PM
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I just witnessed the recording of a murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 07:30 PM
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One is contributing to the injury someone-- and the other is losers that are sad/mad that they can't get laid. News flash: you can approach things differently and take the context into consideration. You don't have to dumb everything down in life to a strict, unwavering policy. So, you could choose to care about human rights and not to care about whiney douchebags. Crazy, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 07:24 PM
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What makes it incel is turning it into a sex/gender-based issue instead of letting it remain an individual one. For people genuinely just airing out dating woes-- that's not the same as being an incel and blaming the entire opposite sex and society for your lack of ability to find a woman within your standard of physical attractiveness that reciprocates your desire for sex. So yeah, if the accusations go at someone who didn't do that-- it's not exactly fair. But when someone acts like an incel, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 07:18 PM
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