What exactly qualifies as a high n count "bodycount" to people on this sub?

No-Improvement-8205 · 2022-08-21T07:06:28+00:00

I asked the same question like 6 months ago, you can check under my posts if u want more data on the question, but for most people on this sub its anything that's double digit

Vigeto619 · 2022-08-21T04:48:18+00:00

10+ depending on age i guess

DisasterPeace7 · 2022-08-21T05:44:28+00:00

I think a lot of it depends on age more so then just the number, although if it does get to a certain point I think it's just High regardless, like if your body count is like 75 it doesn't matter if you're 25 or 55 that could seem pretty high lol

By the time I met my wife I had been with 22 women and I was 27 when we met so I could see that being high for some people I guess but looking at some of the numbers floating around here if a girl's been with 10 guys it makes a difference if she's 18 or 38 lol

Flightlessbirbz · 2022-08-21T09:06:36+00:00

I don’t have an exact number I consider “high,” it’s more shades of gray and depends heavily on age. I also accept I won’t know unless they choose to tell me, and don’t care unless they’re currently/recently promiscuous. What someone who is 30 did in college, I don’t see as very relevant, but if I know you’re currently hooking up with someone new every weekend, or “spinning plates,” I’m going to avoid you because I don’t want to be another “plate”/notch on the belt. To me, that’s when someone (usually a man) being promiscuous becomes a dealbreaker. It’s not so much the actual count, but when he treats racking up that count like some kind of a game, especially if he’s not honest with all of the women. I’d have a hard time trusting someone who ever did that.

Now to most of the men here, “high body count” seems to be “higher than mine” or perhaps “too close to mine” depending on the man. I wouldn’t encourage women to have casual sex since I think it tends to be high risk, low reward for us. However, I also don’t think women need to worry about their body count despite what men here say, since a) chances are nobody will know unless you choose to share, and b) the concept of “high n” is extremely subjective, as we see in this thread. The idea of a formerly promiscuous woman being unable to find any man who wants to be in a relationship with her due to her past, is more a revenge fantasy than reality. I don’t even believe most men really want the awkward virgin woman as much as they claim to.

Anykindofland · 2022-08-21T06:33:41+00:00

Her age - 16. When the N Count is higher than that, thats to much. I prefer this method because:

It counts age into the equation. A women who is older can be expected to have slept with more people. Sure, this is not limitless but its a decent rule of thumb.
16 because the average age of losing your virginity is 17. So a seventeen year old can be expected to have had at least one sexual partner.

truthfullyVivid · 2022-08-21T04:29:56+00:00

Asking your partner's body count is a no-win discussion. I have a large one and when my ex asked me I told her. She gasped. At least that confirmed she wasn't the 304 that I was when younger.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2022-08-21T13:06:33+00:00

For a lot of the dudes here: 1 more that they currently have on their scorecard.

decoy88 · 2022-08-21T11:45:11+00:00

Anything over the average, which means anything over 10-12+

This is according to all the info I could find on the subject.

babypinkstrawberri · 2022-08-21T04:38:01+00:00

Tbh, I think men on this sub still define "high bodycount" as being significantly less then their own. So a guy that slept with 10 girls might think any girl over 1 or 2 is high but a guy that slept with 100 girls might think 10-15 is low. This is also a question I feel is not asked in real life and I bet so many people lie about their answers if someone does ask them.

SwimmingTheme3736 · 2022-08-21T12:06:50+00:00

For me over 200 I would question

poorwardobservations · 2022-08-21T13:34:32+00:00

I ideally seek +/-5 from where I’m at. Right now I live in Chicago and date generally good looking and social girls and it seems the high teens low 20’s is pretty average.

ManWazo · 2022-08-21T05:46:11+00:00

0-9: low 10-99: medium 100-999: high 1000+: legend

jonathan88876 · 2022-08-21T06:12:33+00:00

I’d say 3-14 is normal, 15+ is high, 2 or fewer is low.

pinpointnade · 2022-08-21T06:09:45+00:00

The fact that everyone here is all over the place with their answers tells you all you need to know.

NaturalQueer · 2022-08-21T16:21:36+00:00

I think what is high or low is probably what is out side of the average range.

I think though when be people say a high body count it’s also said as a negative judgment, so for me there isn’t like “high body count” in that way. There are people who no one can deny has slept with a lot of people but as long as it’s between two (or more) consenting people I don’t really care.

I have pretty high count by most peoples standards but I’ve been with people who were virgins, people who also had high bodycounts and those in between. I don’t really judge people based off of that. My husband has a lower count and it’s never been an issue, he doesn’t care because our sex is amazing (best I’ve ever had actually).

Do whatever you want, look for whatever you want, don’t shame people for what they do. That’s how I look at it.

Lisavela · 2022-08-21T17:17:32+00:00

Anything over 10, personally I like someone who is picky with who they choose to sleep with as I am too.

cunningcaring · 2022-08-21T20:55:17+00:00

Don't ask, don't tell. No count is irrelevant.

Ohms2North · 2022-08-21T22:44:32+00:00

832 seems high

realbsartist · 2022-08-21T10:11:16+00:00

Technically speaking, after reading most of the published studies, the majority of the bell curve sits somewhere between like 7-10 ish, something like that, for lifetime partners. Last study was 2015, so it could be a bit higher now because people seem to be fucking like it means nothing. But largely speaking anyone with an n-count over say 25 wouldn't really be statistically different than someone with a count of 200. N=25 is like 95% percentile or something. So no, the vast majority of people have 'low counts'. And after ~20 it almost doesn't matter to count anymore because it's so few people it's no longer statistically meaningful

no_bling_just_ding · 2022-08-21T14:05:35+00:00

my opinions:

high compared to the population? maybe 10.

high for my preferences? n > 0.

krinky_dink · 2022-08-21T04:22:35+00:00

If your BC is more than a R6 lobby, you will not ever meet my mommy 🤷‍♂️

CocoBabeNYC · 2022-08-21T04:47:18+00:00

As much as is needed to become good at sex.

Eval-conundrum · 2022-08-21T05:14:21+00:00

I don't care personally. What is "high" is meaningless as it has no impact. If a person has 100, I don't care, if they have 1, I don't care. The only time I care is if they have zero (virgin) and I won't date them.

PCSX217 · 2022-08-21T04:58:11+00:00

I think 30+ is when I'd start wondering if there was like a reason for that many(sexual trauma as a child, super high libido, etc) but I still don't think it would deter me from dating them. I'd probably start asking questions about it though. 4-20 is ideal/acceptable/expected for me personally. F27, now gay but was straight and then bi.

Fun_Push7168 · 2022-08-21T05:50:15+00:00

Over your age minus years married.

lostlito · 2022-08-21T06:09:33+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/vr9mmq/how_much_is_too_much_ncount_baseline_answer/

Here ya go.

ThrowRAmtf · 2022-08-21T11:43:54+00:00

I would assume 1-2 sex partners per celibate year under the age of 30 a safe estimate.

Counting from the year the girl has lost her virginity.

So, for a girl of 23 years who lost her virginity at 18 I would assume that a n-count of 5-8 is "safe". Anything higher is suspicious. Not from a morality point of view but from "values" point of view.

This without considering cheating.

I would prefer a girl with 10 body count but one after another, in a real love story, than a girl with 3 body count in a polyamorous relationship or with FWB, that is, sex without love.

BrummieAMN19 · 2022-08-21T12:07:42+00:00

Depends on age and location, social circles/certain communities. What I define a high slaycount onto an individual would depend on those factors.

ThrowawayYAYAY2002 · 2022-08-21T12:21:15+00:00

10-15+.

ToBeFair91 · 2022-08-21T14:59:04+00:00

20+ but I never ask and if you want my advice don't, if you get the feeling that someone is high count then you're probably right, deal with it. If it's an issue for you it'll never not be an issue.

Paranoidexboyfriend · 2022-08-21T15:04:09+00:00

We've been over this. Any n count more than mine is too high.

KaleidoscopeEyes12 · 2022-08-21T15:11:37+00:00

I would consider “high” probably like 10+ depending on age, but that’s not insanely high and it wouldn’t deter me from being with someone. I probably wouldn’t be put off by someone’s count unless it was like 30+, again depending on age. Currently I’m 21 so that’s the age group I’m basing these numbers off of. Maybe if I was in my 30’s or 40’s I would understand higher numbers since people have had more time to explore at that point.

shockedpikachu123 · 2022-08-21T15:42:27+00:00

In this sub? 1.

operapeach · 2022-08-21T15:46:37+00:00

Only speaking for women. Anything over 10 is unnecessarily high. Anything under 5 is good.

jcolls69 · 2022-08-21T17:19:47+00:00

This topic has just gotten annoying at this point. Like if I’ve had sex with 1 woman 1000 times I have the same experience at sex as someone whose slept with 1000 women once. The difference is the “pick up” skills and knowing a specific woman’s body compared to knowing how to find any woman’s spots. When this topic comes up so does this example and a lot of the time most people will think it makes sense, until you turn it around and make the example from a woman’s perspective. Of course, most women still think this makes sense and yep 1000 times or 1000 guys it’s basically the same. But for some reason many men disagree as soon as a woman is the one in the example and it’s pretty obvious as to why. The whole n-count issue is all about insecurity anyways. It’s this idea that you believe you can please your partner, but if you know they’ve had many partners you worry that they prefer being pleased in a different way and will compare you to a previous experience. I think small penis anxiety is the big driving force behind the men who care so much about n-count. The women who care are typically also insecure but obviously for other reasons. I mean they used to just call women “loose” lol but a woman being “loose” would only matter if you were too small to fill the void that chads monster dong left behind (that’s not actually how it works). If you care about n-count, you’ll do much better simply telling the women you hope to have a relationship with that you don’t have much sexual experience and you sometimes become insecure when women have had drastically more experience than you. This can at least avoid the “body count” talk which usually comes off as condescending and ignorant. Some women will not care about your experience, some might even be nice enough and like you enough to try and help you learn, some will think you’re pathetic but those women would likely think that no matter what you say or do. Find someone that is compatible with you. Women who aren’t shit posting online or “content creators” usually are much more forgiving about mens flaws than you’ve been lead to believe. Tell you what, I’ll let you in on the secret to average mens success for about 2 thousand years. Go to a church. Even if you’re not religious. If you’re not you might as well try out synagogs and mosques too. Single women at churches are the red pilled man’s dream. They’re crazy af but they’re down to get married after the second date.

ProfessorFelix0812 · 2022-08-21T20:32:53+00:00

High = any number of dudes a chick has slept with that were not the creepers in this sub obsessed with bodycount.

christianalex111 · 2022-09-09T05:58:26+00:00

I would never ask someone how many people they’d slept with, and I would consider it a major red flag if someone asked me. STI status, values, discussions about lessons learned and lived experience are all important, but still no substitute for getting to know someone and observing their behavior over a good amount of time and across situations. Racking and stacking potential partners by their reported “Body count” seems like some bizarre attempt to apply online gaming metrics to life to grasp at some illusion of control. Seems better to face one’s fears of impermanence, heartbreak, betrayal and build a strong enough foundation of self-worth and discernment that you don’t need to fear anything about participating in life.

InfamousBake1859 · 2022-08-21T05:02:49+00:00

5 for both genders at age 30

CruelAngelGradThesis · 2022-08-21T04:35:16+00:00

Anything above zero is essentially the same to me. I don't really believe in the "kinda sorta practically a virgin" low n count stuff that's said here. Granted, people make mistakes, and I wouldn't rule out a non-virgin entirely.

JustaGuyinFinance · 2022-08-21T04:51:12+00:00

This would vary depending on the person wouldn't it?

Puzzleheaded_Bet7294 · 2022-08-21T06:44:40+00:00

I mean I’d love to be able to say “I won’t date someone with X partners” but I’ve been told beggars can’t be choosers

beleidigtewurst · 2022-08-21T08:22:11+00:00

Just for the reference: record number of bang-bangs in a single day (12 hours) is 919.

For a woman, that is. And, lol, men, no chance you ever get to even to 10% of that, gg no re.

Lisa Sparks is the hero(ine) who achieved that.

Ground-breaking achievement happened in 2004.

Previous record was held by Marianna Rokita, who baned with 759 men.

Prior to that, Klaudia Figura managed 646.

Lisa Sparks has been married since 1995.

Try to be more "open minded" than that, fellas...

TheGreatFadoodler · 2022-08-21T14:32:03+00:00

Under 20 is ideal. 20-40 is understandable. 40-50 is as high as I would be comfortable with. 50+ is just like... I don’t like it. For reference mine is 41

midwesternMD · 2022-08-21T16:28:49+00:00

1) people on PPD aren’t reflective of real life. I would argue that most of us, myself included, are relationship failures. Otherwise we’d have no reason to have stumbled on the “pills,” rejected them, and sought discussion on PPD

2) I still argue that body count isn’t important. Some folks cite some paper about pair bonding, etc. Maybe there’s some truth in that research. If it’s 100% explanatory (hint: nothing ever is), then I’m doomed to fail, and none of this shit matters. Should someone like me accept that research at face value, and resign myself to a life of casual flings/situationships/FWBs? Hopefully not. I certainly don’t. Data doesn’t define me, even if it may explain some variables in the dating world.

3) to answer your question, someone’s body count is too high if it makes you uncomfortable. That may be 7 to one person, and 27 to the next. One obvious variable is age. But some folks find themselves in years-long monogamous relationships that just don’t work out for one reason for another. They’ll have relatively low n counts. Others might be serial monogamists, and maybe have 1-2 new partners a year. And still others might have phases where they’re looking for casual sex exclusively, in which case they may have several partners in a year. There’s nothing wrong with any of these situations. They’re just different.

faith_in_gasoline · 2022-08-21T16:30:53+00:00

I don’t understand the fuss around bodycount at all. I’d never ask my partner, be it casual or serious, how many people he has slept with. Why does it matter? What matters is that, if we are in a relationship, right now we’re only sleeping with each other and have eyes for each other. If I get in a relationship I’m thinking how this is the one I will forever sleep with, no one else. Why does my past matter? Many of my friends have the same mindset.

EatingVowels · 2022-08-21T05:40:11+00:00

If she has a higher body count than me. I’m at 59 atm, and tbh I haven’t dated anyone with more than that.

Many of the girls I hooked up with when I was young had a body count of 20-30, so I think the people in this thread who are considering 5 a reasonable number for an adult is searching for unicorns. Especially in this day and age where sex is so easy to find.

I know girls who were close to 200 when they were barely 20 years old, and I have a few male friends who are well over 100+.

gem-undercover · 2022-08-21T06:19:35+00:00

I think there are several factors to consider (age, culture, relationship history, etc.).

But to answer simply, I’m in my mid-20s. If we’re within the same age range, I’d say anything above 6 is quite high.

Radiant_Specific6542 · 2022-08-21T13:04:49+00:00

29M Heterosexual male take.

Of course what's "high" will be subjective to an individual, combined with context.

For me, casual dating/none monogamous dynamics... body count is 100% irrelevant.

For monogamous relationships, I personally wouldn't commit to a woman that has a body count over 10. So for me that's "high".

fake7272 · 2022-08-21T14:00:05+00:00

30 or over seems a little high, that means they constantly have dude rotating out every month for multiple years. I would imagine this person isnt "finding themselves" sexually and is most likely just unable to commit to one individual in a healthy way.

For dudes it's less, anything over 15 is well above average. I think the average lifetime partner count for guys is something like 7 but that is taking the average with all the dudes who are virgins.

aj2467 · 2022-08-21T12:43:04+00:00

The problem with it is that it takes a certain skill for a man to get laid. A woman requires no skill. If you took an average woman and average man put them into a bar and asked 100 people of the opposite sex to sleep with them the man would probably get 1 woman to say yes. The woman would probably get 95 guys out of the 100 to say yes. So for a woman to throw pussy around just means she does not put a high value on herself. Especially when the only thing guys want from women is sex. For me my most valuable asset is my time. So I don’t just give everyone my time. I’m not a time hoe. So you can slice and dice it anyway you want and kick and scream but if a woman is throwing pussy around she is perfect for a good time but is low value. A man that is getting tons of action is high quality because he is skilled.

Neptune-Jr · 2022-08-21T05:16:19+00:00

anything over 6

Knight_of_Inari · 2022-08-21T06:34:03+00:00

I don't care about high body count, one is already too much considering the kind of lady I want. However, if you mean high in the sense that I would feel impressed I would say... Above 20? That seems above average

AutomaticMeaning3844 · 2022-08-21T06:42:23+00:00

Just like women all have different height preferences, men can have different body count preferences too. You can apply all the arguments women use about height on body count.

chickenfriedsteakdin · 2022-08-21T10:40:41+00:00

Women are racking up body counts like sailors onshore leave. 27% of men 18-30 are virgins! Do the math. Online every woman can find a penis. Average men left to scrape the bottom of the barrel

None0fYour8usiness · 2022-08-21T07:09:19+00:00

Mine is 2 so anything over 5 is a lot to me.

Cibfbfin · 2022-08-21T07:54:48+00:00

10 is high. Don’t care about the age

anon018274031 · 2022-08-21T08:06:56+00:00

The categories are more too low for me to have sex with, cool for me to have sex with, too high for me to have sex with. For context this would be men around 25 years old. The numbers would be- - no limit to how low - 0-10 (pushing it 15) - 15+

tinasnow-poty · 2022-08-21T10:46:31+00:00

Around my age (23) for men its more than 30 and for women it’s more than 10. But I’m starting to think I grew up in a more slutty environment than some of the people here 😂 I know a guy who was already on double figures by age 18 which is wayyy too much. But someone said 2 like what that’s rookie numbers. My only friend on 1 has been in a LTR since she was 16 Which is not very common

jackedsoon · 2022-08-21T10:58:56+00:00

Depends on age and how long it took you to get there. E.g 18yo with 5 n count in 4 months is high.

General rule is if its over 7(whatever average n count is) its high.

Ylduts · 2022-08-21T12:41:42+00:00

For me n count matters but ultimately casual sex is the real dealbreaker. It just so happens to be that a correlation exists between high n count people and casual sex. People who actively partake in casual sex tend to make terrible long term monogamous partners. The number ultimately doesn’t matter it’s the mindset/behavior behind it. If put on the spot and I had to say a number I would go with the data. People with more than 10 partners statistically jump to being 30% more likely to have a marriage end in divorce.

edgyny · 2022-08-21T15:22:15+00:00

Adapt the Standard Creepiness Rule as follows:

1. Standard Creepiness Rule

her age < his age / 2 + 7

2. Replace ages with N-counts and reverse signs which simplifies to:

her N count > his N count / 2 - 7

JustSmores · 2022-08-21T04:57:41+00:00

I wouldn’t want to go near a guy with a body count higher than mine.

SmarmyPapsmears · 2022-08-21T05:07:56+00:00

There's not a definitive number but I'd say after 10 a woman starts losing RMV

2022-08-21T08:22:20+00:00

>=1 for women. if you date a virgin chick and marry them probability of divorce is less than 5%. if you marry someone with 1 past partner chances of divorce is around 20%. 2 past partners is around 35%... and the list goes on. For men it is probably >100

GuyIsAdoptus · 2022-08-21T04:54:31+00:00

Higher than average for your age. Also, I'll do the math in my head to see how long your relationships have lasted on average and why you can't seem to hold anything down for good despite multiple chances.

General average for a woman is something like 4, so any woman who treats 10 like average is a redflag.

Edit: lol this is a perfectly reasonable and common take but this is what gets downvoted? Being too ashamed to even defend your actions in an anonymous message board says a lot...

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nofapPLEASESTOP · 2022-08-21T22:18:20+00:00

Depends on age.

LUCKYMAZE · 2022-08-22T04:11:13+00:00

the more bodies for a woman = the harder it will be to create a bond

sebwiers · 2022-08-22T12:50:23+00:00

Rule of thumb - your age minus 10 is gonna be pretty high. But it's not something I get hung up on.

What exactly qualifies as a high n count "bodycount" to people on this sub?

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Just for the reference: record number of bang-bangs in a single day (12 hours) is 919.

Lisa Sparks has been married since 1995.

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