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= something that a person does for the pleasure of using power to control other people. Being pretty isn’t something that someone is able to choose most of the time, and even when you do enhance your looks only in rare cases is it for the ‘pleasure of using power to control people’. Having standards is not a something people do to get pleasure either?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:03 PM
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You are completely misusing the word ‘power trip’. Simply being pretty and having standards is not a power trip? Are you expecting women to date 100% of men regardless of if they like or have any attraction towards them? Fuck standards aye. Sleep with everyone. Because that’s obviously the healthy thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:47 AM
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A ‘Power trip’ is not being picky. I think you are misusing the world. A ‘power trip’ is using and abusing the extra power you may have.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:44 AM
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Of course women like confidence, most people like some level of confidence in a partner because it helps them navigate the world together. Unless you are a particularly dominant AND caring AND protective person then having someone who isn’t very confident can be a big emotional drain and practically quite annoying. Nobody is denying this However what can be a turn off is arrogance
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 12:45 PM
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Don’t listen to the bullshit on here. Do what is right for YOU. Because women are not all one person and you might as well find one compatible to you rather then some act you’ve put on (because that’s got to be exhausting). Every man I’ve dated I’ve seen cry at least one. The man I’m currently dating cried when we were hanging out after about date 5. He’s human, he was feeling down, I’m not gonna hold that against him or see him as less of a man like some of these comments suggest. If anything i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 09:06 AM
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Attitude towards sex can change, being short/ugly can’t (sadly). Not that a short/ugly man has ever actually approached me to ask me out
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:30 AM
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I don’t judge them for asking if it’s more of an informative thing, I judge people for completely disregarding someone based on the information and not seeing them as a whole person. The asking is fine, but the action based on it is what I judge. I can understand asking further questions, for example it makes a difference if the majority was 5 years ago or if you are still very promiscuous. It matters if they were ONS or if there were relationships within it. But point blank saying no based on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:58 AM
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Dating if you are dating with the intent of a relationship on isn’t about efficiency, it’s about quality. That’s why romance isn’t needed to just fuck someone but for many people is preferred for actual dating. Your definition is odd, I would say romance is about making the other person feel loved. I’ve been with maybe two romantic men in my life, both became relationships because they were romantic. Romance is what makes me sexually get started, it’s the on switch. It’s not ‘pointless’. Some of…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:53 AM
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This will get downvoted to fuck here but 🤷‍♀️ I mean they shouldn’t stop caring, the reaction to body count is a good indicator of the type of men to avoid for me. When a man asks my body count I triple it initially, if they run away they aren’t open minded enough for me (unless they themselves are low body count then I will tell them my true body count, but weirdly enough the low body count men aren’t the ones acting negatively. It’s always the men with higher counts themselves that are judgeme…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:45 AM
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Visual, makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:25 PM
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I mean walking out was an absolute last resort, I also paid for my fair share. Don’t want to give away details incase someone recognises me but I’ve had dates say things that are generally offensive and things that were specifically individualised to be rude towards me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:22 PM
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Yes. I’ve walked out on dates because they were so rude or said/did things that made me feel disrespected or uncomfortable. And I’ve gone from no initial spark to practically throwing myself at them because of how they acted (the man I’m currently seeing being in this category). It matters. But generally there are loads of other factors and variables at play to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:07 PM
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What do people have against books having good world building and a plot ffs. They are wholesome in their own way, the same way what men seem to see as wholesome is not to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:52 PM
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Idk man, maybe it’s the books I read but their skills usually come back within the same book as part of the plot to be used or it’s never lost at all. Not sure if you are aware of the ACOTAR series- it’s a MASSIVE fantasy series at the moment. It’s like the soft gateway into smut. Spoilers and that but the first love interest everyone hates because he takes her identity away to be what he wants (she was super independent before, strong blah blah blah. Gradually she becomes basically like a troph…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:40 PM
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Sorry I should have prefaced by saying I’m referring to a western population (because these habits are so culturally dependent). I agree it’s where you draw your personal lines and definitions. I think that line is very gender specific though. Even the term ‘hard core’ is going to have a gender bias. For example Anal isn’t considered rough, it’s not BDSM and wouldn’t be considered ‘hard core’ (hell it’s considered extremely vanilla in my generation)- a lot of men watch anal based porn as a norm.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:21 PM
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Because it’s a fantasy novel? Hence why it’s fantasy. Same reason in real life a goddess like, virgin woman (who is sexually experienced in the bedroom) who dedicates her ever waking moment to her partners every desire also isn’t going to her with an average guy. Dude. It’s fantasy. You have to extrapolate from the hyperbole as I did above.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:15 PM
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What do you mean, sorry I don’t understand the point? Do you mean the females interest? They usually have nothing to do with what the guy in the book wants. The women in these books are often well developed in their own right before the male character is even introduced- they are writers or journalists or doctors or hunters/warriors (in the fantasy type books).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:08 PM
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I directly quoted the words they used. It was not ‘obvious’ they meant that. You could argue what women put in those books is hyperbolic (because it usually is). I would argue the key features of men in female smutt are: - a man who is hopelessly in love with a woman and wants her in a primal way - who will protect her - who although dominant (+/- in a position of power) but actually affords more respect and freedom at closer inspection. - has a lot of emotional intelligence/layers/communication…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:04 PM
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I agree with the assessment that the female population is far more naturally ‘kinky’ then the male and seen that way. Mainly because what men want sexually has always been the ‘norm’ because men have mostly written the sexual narrative of what is and isn’t normal. The big HOWEVER being because of porn consumption I think younger men are actually conditioning themselves to get off to quite extreme stuff from such a young age and are now starting to be more widely ‘kinky’ because of this. I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:54 PM
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The key difference I would say is the ‘living for him’ thing. Most of the smutt books I’ve read she has a life and interests in her own right, and these are supported regardless of how weird the rest of the dynamic may be
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:26 PM
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Im not a fan of fifty shades of grey tbh, not my kinda smutt. But I’d prefer the life she has over a trad wife existence if I’m honest, just sounds like Christian grey needs some therapy to work out his childhood trauma. For me personally being a trad wife would actually drive me insane, I couldn’t do it for any extended period of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:24 PM
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Insatiable sex goddess where her ‘entire life revolves around him’. Yeah I’m good. That’s not normal
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:15 PM
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It’s wholesome if you are a man reading that, to me as a woman that sounds like hell. Hence why preference is different
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 01:41 PM
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Yeah weird language, also in general a Hard question to answer tbh because men just don’t have such a mental state based sexuality so books don’t do the job, they are much more visual. And what you like visually doesn’t translate to what mentally might turn you on in a book. I’m interested to see what men answer when they consider it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 01:24 PM
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Never heard of smutt called a ‘bodice ripper’
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 01:20 PM
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I disagree, i think you may bit a bit delusional at the current standards that exist due to social media
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:44 PM
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Consent takes under 5 seconds for most things ‘your cool with x, yes’. It’s not a drag to make someone feel comfortable. And as a woman I 100% get off more when I feel comfortable and safe
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:25 PM
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Re-read the first two words of that sentence…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 09:58 PM
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I’ve posted from another account on one of those brutally honest pages and tended to get 6/10 I just think men have a very weird perception of what being a woman is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 09:26 PM
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That probably depends massively on the woman. I know that within my circles it’s not uncommon. We often ‘give men a chance’ who we have no attraction to because it’s just so hard to date and I guess there is some misguided hope that less attractive men maybe kinder. From my current experience I’ve found this isn’t the case if I’m honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:57 PM
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I actually wasn’t sexually attracted to probably 50% of men I’ve been on dates with, I was just desperate and felt it was the best I could do. And it’s a vicious cycle because these types of men tear you down and your self worth gets even worse
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:49 PM
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I hope so too, and I hope that for others. We all deserve to find our person
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:44 PM
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Yeah low self worth is a shout
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:29 PM
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Can only speak to why I’ve dated assholes (was never good enough for them though so didn’t enter a relationship) - I will take what I can get - I’m lonely af, I tried going without for a few years and I miss intimacy too much. I missed having that person to rely on, to care for and share things with. - just seems to be the options available - I’m naive, often fall for the lies. This is something I’m working on but there are some men out there that deserve Oscar’s I have been in a relationship wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:25 PM
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They can overlap, but it’s not a given. Lots of people fantasise about all sorts of things, but the act of actually having it done to you is a whole different thing. It’s VERY common to be into what OP mentioned in terms of porn or books, but it’s more of a niche group of people that can go the full thing (CNC is pretty niche)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 07:27 PM
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I think men would be surprised what the experience is like for an average woman. We start getting attention at about 11-13 years old, this is NOT a positive thing to shape our character. It does NOT improve self esteem, it just causes a bunch of issues with sexuality and female identity. Generally the most attention I got was underaged. As an average woman the only attention I got once about 20 years old was from drunk men or men looking for sex, and considering many men will admit they would fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:44 PM
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That’s not shaming male sexuality. If I asked most men they wouldn’t say they feel coerced into sex with 50% of women like damn. That’s an insane claim Women do not use their sexuality to get benefit from men on a regular basis, many women don’t have that power at all. Maybe I’m missing something but how does my ‘power over men’ benefit me on a daily basis? Yeah, I think these women do need some therapy. Although I’d argue those factors are a much greater difference in power then someone simply …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:30 PM
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If just having a vagina is enough to ‘coerce’ someone then they need to hit up some serious therapy. The mere existence of 50% of the population isn’t coercion
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:05 PM
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Yeah but if you are gonna do something that risky you would hope you’ve at least looked into it a bit :/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:01 PM
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I mean coersion is a barrier to proper consent, so is grooming. Hence my previous statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:05 PM
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Most mainstream porn has the man being dominant, you don’t need to watch rape fantasy porn for a dominant man? Also ‘dominance’ is not the same as violence, abuse, rape fantasies etc. you can be extremely soft and be a dominant man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:55 PM
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Yeah true, but god I’ve had guys try to do some dangerous stuff and nobody has ever corrected it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:59 PM
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Most women I know that have been chocked in terms of windpipe asked for this after seeing it on porn and wanting to try it. Most actually mean pressing their carotids and are getting the high from that, rather then any sort of airway compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:18 PM
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I’m not saying rough sex or some element isn’t asked for, I mean full CNC is a pretty intense kink
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:15 PM
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That’s a lot more rare as far as I know, and painful rather then euphoric but each to their own
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:02 PM
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Most women you will find want their carotids squeezed (to different extents) alongside the feeling of hands around their neck. It’s shocking how many men think ‘chocking’ is the windpipe
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:00 PM
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Elements yes, but I don’t think to the same extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:28 PM
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Lol nope, I tend to find it through female led parts of the internet including through reddit links And if I give up I can always read a book, often better then the porn I can find
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:26 PM
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I mean i just think that’s a general population type view, I really don’t think it has much to do with feminism if I’m honest
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:25 PM
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It’s features within it they like, rather then the act itself (in most cases) For example: - being lusted over, being needed and craved - being dominated by a man that knows what he wants (you) - someone being a bit rough (really common women like this), comes across as primal I guess Just look at quotes from any popular smutty books that women read, it will help you understand Also just to note most ‘non consensual’ or general BDSM porn or even activity in real life often involves more consent …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:22 PM
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I have dated many men I don’t find attractive, usually they don’t make it past date 3. However I have dated 1 man for 3 years who I didn’t find attractive and ended up falling in love with him. The attraction did grow, those rose tinted love glasses make a HUGE difference. And he satisfied me enough sexually, although not the best lover I’ve had. I fell in love with HIM, rather then his body. However, the second person I spent a decent amount of time seeing (never official) I fell harder for and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:15 PM
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I think you need to learn to say ‘some people’. Because ‘feminists’ as a whole is a very broad term, and most could not give the slightest shit what happens in someone’s bedroom. I, a feminist, am extremely submissive in a relationship and in the bedroom. Feminism is literally about choice
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:09 PM
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You are missing out
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:07 PM
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I think it’s more complex then that. For example the gay scene where I from (and in a few of the countries I’ve visited) is quite dangerous in terms of the risk they put themselves in. Things like drug use/Chem sex, certain rave scenes, group sex, the lack of scenes for online hook ups etc are all more common in the gay community compared to lesbian. So the opportunity for shit to go wrong presents itself a lot more often. Most people won’t go out their way to attack someone but presented with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:00 AM
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No they don’t, feminists literally could not give a shit what happens in your bedroom as long as it’s between consenting adults
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:58 AM
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This is interesting actually. Now I think about it that type of porn often seems to be: - highly focused on the woman and her pleasure - have the most passion, pleasure, chemistry and need for the other person (rather then a porn star going through the motions) - has the most noise (ugh why doesn’t porn cater to this) and actual real dialogue - often contains more consent strangely enough (sometimes in a disclaimer at the start, and sometimes during) which NEVER happens in vanilla sex shoots - p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:52 AM
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There’s always one…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:52 AM
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Have you tried being spanked or choked, you will see the appeal 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:51 AM
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A mental fantasy vs actually doing it in the bedroom are two completely different things. Just because women read and watch it doesn’t mean they ask for it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:50 AM
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This point is neutral. Because although demand is higher for young women and subsequently competition, this in turn means demand is lower for older women because according to you people are too busy chasing the young ones . So it all evens out. Although generally I just think irl people tend to go for someone around their age. Completely agree this is some social bullshit. Although it has roots in biology, with the knowledge and science we now have it’s become just social bs. Makes everyone’s li…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:44 AM
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I’m not against it. I tried dating and subsequently had a few ONS/hook ups. They were always shit in every way. I had one good hook up who single handedly restored my libido but otherwise the rest were absolutely awful. The sex was shit (never got off, selfish people in bed), they made me feel ugly and like a flesh light. They were also extremely vanilla, so it was boring af and could not read body language. Plus it was always a fight to get them to wear a condoms, I’m convinced these are the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:45 AM
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Are you using spontaneous mutations to say it’s a matter of chance? Really? Almost all people’s height is dictated by two major factors- their parents height and then nutrition/other health requirements being met as they grow. If short people weren’t hooking up and having sex they wouldn’t exist anymore. Preference does not imply that some women like short men, preference means that some women prefer tall men more then others. Some don’t care at all. Those who don’t care at all may well fall for…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 02:31 PM
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Most people can get dates, I’m not convinced most people can get dates with people they are attracted too though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:47 AM
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Height impact literally impacts each generation, it’s a very very quick trait to be able to manipulate. If short people weren’t having sex there wouldn’t be short people in the modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:46 AM
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Yes you are cynical. I don’t think ‘kids’ is the split. I think it’s experience and growing yourself as a person, when most people start dating they aren’t really sure of themselves. The same way male preference will change with experience. It’s why dating is so important (rather then this bs about having a low body count and being naive af) because it takes time to work out what is right for you, how to spot manipulation/being used and so on. I’ve personally never liked meat heads (neither have…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:17 AM
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Nah it’s preferences. Sure the top end women are picky af because they can be, the same way the top end men are. But otherwise it’s just preference, and certainly not a rigid standard that must be met. Otherwise being short wouldn’t be in the gene pool
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:13 AM
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If your genetics are that undesirable why are you trying to reproduce? AND not even bother raising the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:56 PM
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So why not be a sperm donor to those who actually need a sperm donor to have a child and are in a stable position to have a child, rather then go out of your way to create a single mother in a developing country and therefore place another child in a developing nation?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:36 PM
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(Edit: I’m a woman so you don’t have to read this but just think it’s interesting if what men vs what women want matches up) Ideally as a woman I’d hope for roughly 50/50 effort in terms of working effort (so hours and how much you have to put into your job) and domestic stuff (including childcare) This might not mean money going in is the same, because two people working 40 hour jobs can make different amounts of money. And two 40 hour jobs can require different amounts of physical, intellectua…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:35 PM
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At least you know what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:06 PM
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Can I just check im understanding this right. You want to be a sperm donor with extra steps? You won’t be a father, because that requires you to parent. You just want to have biological offspring. Unless I’ve misunderstood?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:05 PM
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Don’t read my answer then 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:03 PM
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(Edit: I’m a woman so you don’t have to read this but just think it’s interesting if what men vs what women want matches up) Ideally as a woman I’d hope for roughly 50/50 effort in terms of working effort (so hours and how much you have to put into your job) and domestic stuff (including childcare) This might not mean money going in is the same, because two people working 40 hour jobs can make different amounts of money. And two 40 hour jobs can require different amounts of physical, intellectua…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:54 PM
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I mean you only have 6ish hours without kids so when you factor in sleep that’s maybe 8 hours a day of childcare, and be on standby 24/7 (because they could need you in the night, or you could be called to come get them from school). And when the kids aren’t there for a family of 4 in that time you clean the home (that’s 2+ hours), laundry for 4 people (including ironing/putting clothes away, and making sure school uniforms and husbands work attire I ready everyday), cook 11 portions of food (+/…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:57 PM
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That depends on exactly what it entails and the expectation in your household. It can be just as many hours as a full time job.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:37 PM
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Thats obviously not true. A quick google gives figures of: - average American man= 194-200lbs, 5’8 - Average American woman = 170lbs, 5’4
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:37 AM
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I mean I guess that’s a matter of opinion, some people call it preference some will probably call it being ableist. Same debate is had all the time for ethnicity, what about ‘ageist’.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:03 PM
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Entitles implies there are some sort of set world rules, there aren’t. Nobody is or isn’t entitled unless something provides that entitlement (for example law, human rights etc). And I understand you operate differently, that’s why I am questioning the neurodiversity
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:56 PM
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It has NOTHING to do with your gender. You can look out for your own interests (in this example cutting of a friend) without being an asshole (for example politely explain why so she isn’t left wondering why you suddenly dropped out of her life). I’ve cut out many people in my life that were toxic, but when it was safe to do so I’ve always explained why. Also to get to the point of cutting someone out has taken a lot of discussion and trying to understand their point of view. Do you have a diagn…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:50 PM
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I meant the world likes lists, absolutes. It doesn’t like ‘grey areas’. This post is literally asking for that. Having basic standards is not a bad thing. Generally I find most standards women have are based on previous bad experiences Salary makes complete sense, nobody wants to date a dependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:47 PM
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You didn’t read what I wrote? People are entitled to ask whatever questions they want, free speech, you don’t have to answer them if you don’t want to. But honestly you sound like an asshole, super defensive for no reason. Chill I mean that is a complex statement to make, it’s not something that’s obvious why. I can dislike my friends sexual choices but doesn’t mean I stop being friends with them. It’s completely understandable why some people would wonder why? Before then passing judgement on y…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:51 PM
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Not liking animals is a huge dealbreaker. Like why not? What’s wrong with you? Also all my family events come with about 8 dogs (depending on where we hold the event +/- horses +/- chickens). If you don’t like animals you really aren’t a long term option for me
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:48 PM
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Because the world tried to force us to think like that. But in reality look at who they fall for, guarentee they won’t meet all the list requirements because feelings are not logical
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:42 PM
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Interrogate = they are trying to understand if there is a reason to not be disgusted, which by the way you told the story there isn’t. They are literally giving you benefit of the doubt and trying to understand WHY you did something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:41 PM
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It’s significantly improved relationships for women as due to economic, legal and social changes a woman now CHOOSES to be in a relationship. This means she can have standards, can choose to be alone, and can choose to leave a relationship she isn’t happy in.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:38 PM
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I didn’t say ‘just’, you added that part. Dating is exhausting and effort, it’s why I tend to swear off for a period of time everytime i attempt. So effort has to be put in
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 07:06 PM
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It’s more a lifestyle thing, I was pretty mature for my age at 18 and my boyfriend at the time was 22. But men do catch up in the mid 20’s so now dating my own age feels a lot more natural. Plus a lot of men closer to 30 want to start settling down/having kids and I’m still very much looking ahead to years of working hard of my career and seeing the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 06:20 PM
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I use hinge so likes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 06:14 PM
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Try hinge, hinge you can message something before matching so you don’t have to rely just on looks
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 06:03 PM
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At 18 I would have said 18-23, at 21 I would have gone 21-25, I’m 24 now so 23-27 Stage in life matters though, I wouldn’t go for a 27 year old that wants to settle down and have kids for example because that’s not what I want yet. When I was 18 I would have gone for a 23 year old student but probably not a 23 year old that was living a non student life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:57 PM
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I disagree. I’ve been through years without sex and I’ve started to think like that ‘better then nothing’ until I try it again and remember why it’s not worth it. In most western countries poverty is something that can be worked out of, not saying you are gonna be rich but to a point where you can pay for your rent and enjoy a few treats. By 30 you’ve had 12-14 years of working, that’s a longtime to get above minimum wage and work up in some sort of career or job. If you are in a starter positio…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:52 PM
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You must have really high standards because 6 months of weight loss and working with resistance and weights can really change the shape of someone’s body (assuming the starting point isn’t morbid obesity and you are just an average person). The type of body you seem to be describing is someone who is lean, a top athletic body, I was just saying aim for not so unhealthy and a bit of strength. Think we have a different picture in our head. God you have a very warped perception of how women’s bodie…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:44 PM
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If we are discussing casual sex it’s pointless, because most women don’t want casual sex, so you are all scrapping over like 5% of the female population. I wouldn’t expect to pull a top 5% man, not sure why average guys think they can get access to this little niche of women. And your right in the fact that young girls have loads of options but you are missing a key factor, HOT young girls have lots of options. I have plenty of female friends who have NEVER been asked out on a date, not once, he…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:36 PM
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6 months can make a lot of changes to your body, done it myself and seen it happen with my own eyes. You don’t need more money? Assuming you can support yourself and have some financial stability that’s plenty for a lot of women. I wouldn’t suggest anyone date if they don’t have this (man or women) and are over the age of 25, like get your shit together first because dating and relationships take up precious time you should be using to sort your shit out. Although ambition and drive can be sexy,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:27 PM
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For the 3+/10 men yes that’s the case, it’s a combination of lack of effort and therefore not putting themselves out there. There will of course be exceptions for example being neurodiverse. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. Group of 11, met them when 9 were virgins, now 1 is. They gradually came to the realisation that in order to get women you have to put a bit of effort in. And for every single one that bothered it worked. The 1 that is left still doesn’t bother putting the effort in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:17 PM
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One like a month is an opportunity, that’s 12 opportunities a year. (And dozens of likes a day is massive hyperbole, I probably get maybe 1 a day on average?). Also on most dating apps (except bumble) men can like/approach the women, they don’t need to wait for opportunities they can create them!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:12 PM
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Most men I know did their ‘self improvement’ turn around in about 6 months, and it made a hell of a difference. Each time one of my male friends did this they went from virgin to either sleeping around or got a girlfriend. They had a choice to improve and put themselves out there, they chose to stay at home playing games and smoking weed. Most the group has since had a glow up and put the effort in because they realised they actually wanted a sex life or a relationship. The ones still moaning th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:10 PM
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We clearly live in different places. Bars where I am are either free or have the same entry for men and women. I pay for drinks all night, granted I pay less then men because im a light weight but I don’t magically get free drinks. I can get propositioned for ‘sex’/being used as a flesh light yeah but I don’t want boring shit sex. No sex is better then that. ‘A lot of men live in poverty’, if you are in genuine poverty you need to not be thinking about women, you need to be thinking about how tf…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:06 PM
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‘Putting yourself out there’ is about MAKING the opportunity and putting in some basic effort. Opportunities don’t just present themselves. And ‘as a woman’ I’ve gone very long stretches with no interest. I could easily be s book hermit that never left my room other then to go to work. But I don’t, I put myself out there online and in person when I’m looking for someone, and in the periods I’m not looking for someone I don’t (and get no interest)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:39 PM
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Most men who ‘didn’t get the chance’ didn’t put themselves out there to begin with. I’ve had a serve a few virgin friends that truth now we are getting closer to 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:25 PM
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100% of people could be acting like assholes then 100% would be below the bar. The bar is not moveable, it’s the minimum someone with lower themselves to
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:23 PM
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Tbf im NOT looking for casual sex, I make it very clear I’m looking for a relationship, and even I get that sort of content within a few lines of talking in maybe 25% of the men that respond to online dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:22 PM
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It’s not fear, it’s being wary. For me this is because of 3 clear reasons 1) there is always some innate caution if you are the less powerful person in a situation, particularly if any extra vulnerability is added (alone, alcohol/drugs, someone in a position of power to you, physically weaker, unfamiliar with the environment) 2) previous experiences with men have validated that the caution is appropriate, when that caution has slipped or gut instinct not followed I’ve suffered the consequences. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 10:04 AM
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And ‘generally’ I’d say the opposite is true, the men I know of tend to date ‘up’. It seems subjective opinions are well subjective
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 08:27 AM
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Guess they are just all lesbians then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 06:21 AM
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Sounds like you’ve been on the internet too long
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 06:21 AM
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Young women have A LOT of problems getting into relationships. I have plenty of friends in their mid 20’s who have never had a relationship. For those that have managed that I know of it’s mostly apps, then mutual friends. Girls will match make for each other (inviting two friends to the same party for example). Getting sex however is easy if you are average and above, because some men are happy to fuck anything with a vagina. Particularly drunk men or men on drugs. Go to a club as a woman and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 04:58 PM
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Most women do not get attention, you probably just only notice the ones that do… because you are also giving them attention
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 04:00 PM
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Ahhh someone else who was banned 👋
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:16 PM
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They ban literally everyone, so gonna go with no.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:13 PM
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I would hope they have some standards, good for them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:15 AM
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I’d be a bit more tactful then that, and depends what the friend can handle. But I’ve got friends that could take that content (not quite delivered like that). Although I hope if we are friends they would have somewhat of a personality. You can be supportive and truthful, I had a friend I ended up being gym buddies with for nearly a whole year because she asked for an honest opinion and she was beyond skinny to the point she looked childlike and unhealthy. So we worked together to get her gain s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:25 PM
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I mean if you only quality is being ‘decent’ you are probably pretty boring, but having that as one of MANY qualities is a positive thing. And NOT being decent is an automatic disqualifier for a friends of friends relationship because the mutual friend will step in too stop it. ‘Rejected far more then accepted’… are you expecting that to NOT be the case. You expect every man to be desired by >50% of women?! That’s insanity. I’ve met plenty of people where it’s their personality that puts women o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:24 PM
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Don’t get relationship advice off movies or social media?! Do you think women do? Imagine acting like someone in a film. Well your friend is being too kind for some reason, maybe she thinks you can’t handle the truth? And being friends with women is a good way to get dates because assuming you are a decent person we will set you up with our friends
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:19 PM
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That’s not a ‘female FRIEND’, it’s an acquaintance at best. A FRIEND will give you some brutal honest and assuming she thinks you are a decent person will probably throw girls your way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:47 PM
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Exactly. The approach should be that you should be the man that the type of girl you like would want. Which hopefully with just require small tweaks and improvements to your normal self.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:44 PM
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This is the completely truth as I see it too. It’s shocking how many men use money to attract a partner who is looking for money/someone to subsidise them … and then moan when that’s exactly what they get. If you’ve bought yourself a girlfriend rather than worked on yourself what do you expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:43 PM
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Probably because they often listen to other single men for guidance about what women want
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:40 PM
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I completely disagree. I think you seem to be confusing ‘strength’ with ‘aggression’. You can be a strong, stable man which is what women want WITHOUT being aggressive and looking for a fight (what women don’t want).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:36 PM
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This is the one haha
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:33 PM
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Ngl I’ve recently had a guy do a muted version of those things, but the first type of ‘old fashioned’ romance I’ve ever experienced (didn’t ever think I would tbh) and honestly it blew me away. Never have I ever put so much effort in because I’ve never received so much effort
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:32 PM
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I have no regrets, so I guess it depends on the person? Just because regret is ‘natural’ doesn’t mean we should not experience the things we want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 10:09 PM
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I think you should let it be powerful, we only get one shot at this world, I wouldn’t want to turn around at the end and say I regret not experiencing it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:04 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:03 PM
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Depends who you ask, what is considered high depends entirely on the person. It feels ‘high’ to me, but some people would disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:03 PM
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I completely disagree, when my body count was low I would always wonder ‘what if’. Now I’ve seen the ‘what’s ifs’ I’m much happier in the relationships I choose
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:58 PM
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I mean that’s probably how many ghosts I get? Generally most chats don’t end in a date, they just ghost you or fade out
/r/ExRedPill11/05/23 06:33 AM
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How about rather then spread your energy across 4 girls you choose one you genuinely like and put all your energy into her. Take her on a date. Actually invest some feeling and time into her rather then seeing her as just one of four.
/r/ExRedPill10/05/23 06:25 AM
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I like ambitious, intelligent, tall, dark hair with beard, healthy weight but strong, emotionally intelligent. I’ve managed to date 2 of these so I guess some must be into me somewhat?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 07:42 PM
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I’ve been on my guy friends apps and they have been on mine. General consensus being online dating sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 11:48 AM
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Well yeah, that’s why they break of a NOT decent relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:22 PM
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It’s probably more offensive to assume she won’t contribute, I’d be quite annoyed if I felt like I was being treated like a child in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 11:29 AM
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Id be confused if this wasn’t the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 11:28 AM
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There is having a hobby and then there is having an addiction and neglect basic relationship duties because of your ‘hobby’. Nobody is expecting someone to drop all their interests. The reason you don’t tend to see men moan about lack of attention is because women tend to give that attention, they are also less likely to have such time consuming hobbies. The best example I have see of a man moaning about a woman was about how much attention she gave the horse because he literally never saw her, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:31 PM
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It would be interesting to find out just proportion this is. Although it would be so hard to find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 07:54 AM
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Guess you missed the ‘plenty’ of variables part. Or the example I have where people expect their partners to change their core biology, which just isn’t going to happen and is an unrealistic expectation
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 06:39 AM
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Libido isn’t souly dictated by attraction, it is a factor for sure but there are plenty of variables. Go read the second dead bedrooms post right now. It’s a very low libido woman, the guy says he got her to increase a little bit for a short period of time (aka increase beyond her natural sex drive artificially) to please him, and then she’s obviously gone back to her natural libido. And he’s proposed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 06:30 AM
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What ridiculous fantasy is this?! - create an only fans which ruins most future job prospects for very short term game and the mental burden you will have to carry the rest of you life? - be a sugar baby (aka sell you body) and deal with the possibly life long mental consequences of doing that - fuck hot guys at a party= have shit sex, probably get an STI and risk pregnancy, all too feel like a flesh light.. so fun. - be a stripper, because that’s a great way to earn a little bit of money before…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 06:28 AM
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I mean yes, this would help. The longest term relationship I’ve ended (one that he was shopping for rings for) was partially ended over lack of attention. He was married to his video games and phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 06:23 AM
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The dead bedroom forum people usually have LOADS of shit going on other then just attention problems. A lot of them also just have completely mismatched libido’s and for some reason think getting married to someone with a the opposite libido is a good idea
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 06:21 AM
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I think the post kind of implied it works both ways. He stopped paying attention and started a love affair with gaming, so the relationship went down hill (aka he stopped getting as much attention and effort from her). Which stopped when he started paying attention again
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 06:19 AM
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Was it a deadpan joke or did you take it as a deadpan joke. Because she said ‘we’re never gonna date’ and that’s exactly what she did
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:07 PM
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Haha I live in a western country and have actually practiced psychiatry in a western country
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:40 PM
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This sounds like either it didn’t happen (because wtf?) or this girl has a significant amount of mental health issues going on, in which case she doesn’t exactly represent the average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:52 PM
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I’ve literally never heard anyone say a man is a pig for liking short girls? It’s actually rather common.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:53 AM
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Do you just dress completely juxtapose to your actual personality or interests? If not you will realise by opening your eyes in the locations/hobbies that you do that many couples are dressed like this past 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 07:20 AM
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Height is on an absolute wish list (and that’s even only for some, not all). Do you expect a girl you are with to look like the girl of your dreams, or do you expect her to look human?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 07:17 AM
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Did you discuss expectations before and explain you don’t want to have just casual sex? Did she make any promises about seeing you again before you had sex as a way to get you into bed? It comes down to what was said. If there was nothing said then how was she to know it wasn’t just meant to be casual sex. If did you discuss and she said it’s just sex, then you went in knowing that and weren’t ‘used’. If you were lied to with the intent to get you into be then it’s okay to feel ‘used’. Also one …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 07:10 AM
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And that’s exactly what the guy in the comment both is likely doing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 06:01 AM
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3, 5, 8, 11, 12 Good in bed, practical, loyalty, fun and tall. There, perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:43 PM
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How do I find that data?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:30 PM
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A 5/10 B 5/10 C 3/10 (would improve if she lost weight) I’d say these women are quite average
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:44 AM
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Every 3 months? I’ve had 2-3 years in between being asked on a date. On OLD I’m averaging one date every 3-6 months
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:26 AM
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Yeah, I feel like I have to specify curvy ).( not curvy ( . ) They might do, but this is anonymous and lying to yourself just fucks up your health so I don’t lie
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 07:05 PM
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You might, but that’s not the case for the entire dating scene. Personally I find it’s been 50/50 with planning, more of a discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:55 PM
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You assume men always plan and always show up? Quite often where I’ve gone on dates has been a mutual agreement or suggested by myself, and I’ve been stood up like most people who OLD. These are just problems with dating in general, they aren’t female or male specific problems. Attentiveness is the job of BOTH people on the date
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:41 PM
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I know this blows you mind but I have, I literally have about 6 single guy friends
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:39 PM
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I won’t ever get below 25 and maintain it, the only times in my life I’ve managed to do that I was very unwell (menstrual cycle stopped, hair started to fall out, brain fog, cold all the time). Ironically I had 0 libido at that weight so sure someone might want me but I won’t want them What I currently do maintains my weight, to loose weight I have to significantly restrict what I eat and the side effects are just not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:12 PM
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26.8-27.4
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 04:20 PM
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Haha well I have, just not reciprocate, friendzoned
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:33 PM
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You have a very warped idea of body weight if that’s how you view weight. Being curvy means I’m quite heavy, that’s just the shape of women in my family. My sister has run a marathon and she’s ‘overweight’, infact all of my female relatives are into fitness (some do swimming, cycling, dance etc) but are ALL overweight. My actual body measurements (things like waist to hip ratio, using callipers etc) are all WELL within healthy range except my thighs and bum. That’s what adds so much to my BMI. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:11 PM
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Haha my friends aren’t ‘chads’
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:03 PM
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Overweight because I’m quite curvy, but healthy (gym 4-5x a week, mostly weights but some cardio. Balanced diet etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 02:04 PM
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It’s valid to do whatever is right for you. I am currently not dating because of how many bad experiences I’ve had, but I am open to it in the more distant future because I see just how wonderful some of my male friends are and how much a partner like them could enhance my life (and I hope I could in return bring something to someone else’s life) What you explained is only SOME men, there are plenty of men who are kind, supportive, respectful etc
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 01:09 PM
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Nah, i don’t believe it, as I said it’s probably 70% of the women you notice (and the women you notice are more likely to be the attractive ones). You assume i haven’t made moves on my male friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 12:42 PM
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Nah, i don’t believe it, as I said it’s probably 70% of the women you notice (and the women you notice are more likely to be the attractive ones). You assume i haven’t made moves on my male friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 12:42 PM
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For context I’m a woman in my mid 20’s. ‘Shy’ is a bit subjective but I think I have shy friends of both sexes. As a friend I think they are ready for relationships, I just think it would need to be the right people. I worry they would be vulnerable because it’s more difficult for them to find someone so I worry that people will use that insecurity to their advantage. I’m friends with them because when they are comfortable and in smaller group settings/one to one they are funny people, they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 12:35 PM
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Men do not find 80% of women their age attractive, they just don’t even SEE the less then average ones as women. So of the women they acknowledge as women then maybe it feel that’s way. I’m a girl who has been friend zoned by plenty of men. I have a lot of male friends, if men found that many women attractive then I wouldn’t be single because 1 of them would be my partner
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 12:12 PM
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The advice I usually get on this sub with regards to stuff like this is along the lines of ‘you must be dating up’, have you considered these girls are expecting you to woo them because you are dating outside your league?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:53 AM
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Can’t speak for other women but I prefer low effort dates, nobody wants their date stressed out or having to splash out to impress you. Just go for a couple of drinks maybe somewhere with a bit of music, pay half. A lot of my friends do this and will come meet the group after to continue the night (if the date doesn’t end up going well and continuing)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:51 AM
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Why shouldn’t women moan that men (I assume this means you) don’t put effort in when you literally give about 10 reasons why you don’t put effort in. Aren’t they just pointing out what’s true? Also your entire post can be switched and is my experience as a woman dating men. And yet I still put effort in when I was dating where as you seem to be trying to justify how little effort you put in? It seems like dating isn’t for you so don’t do it- the constant rejections, ghosting, having to start ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:44 AM
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No. Women still generally want to raise their child/children with the father, and generally most people looking to have children are selecting for a lot of variables with looks are quite far down on that list. Now the dumbing down of society is the actual key issue (as more intelligent, hard working people have 1 child whilst welfare dependent lazy families seem to start earlier and so have a lot more)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 06:03 AM
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Don’t you think the women at the gym have a slight selection bias with their bodies? The women who are likely to be able to gain muscle easier will be the ones going gym because they get results, but there are some women who hit gym and end up like a plank regardless of what they do
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 06:02 AM
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I made the same decisions, but I WANTED to have sex with more people. My actual ‘type’ didn’t change though, I just felt more desire to have sex with them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 08:19 PM
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Most the men in my life are either relatives, in a relationship or friends with an ex (and good people so wouldn’t cross that boundary)
/r/ExRedPill28/04/23 07:49 PM
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1) not sure why you think women having casual sex are on birth control. Generally single women are NOT on birth control (not worth the side effects) and women in relationships are 2) Birth control changed a lot regarding my libido/sexual attraction, but it didn’t make me go from ‘status’ or feminine to masculine traits. It just dampened everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 07:46 PM
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‘Ignore’? Unless Instagram has found a way to self delete messages this isn’t true
/r/ExRedPill28/04/23 07:12 PM
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I live in the capital city :’) and im pretty average. So are a lot of my friends. I can promise you it’s not true
/r/ExRedPill28/04/23 05:10 PM
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50/50 if similar incomes and both people can do so comfortably. Proportional to income if - someone earns so little that 50/50 impacts their quality of life - if they are renting somewhere more expensive then where the lower earner would live because the higher earner wanted to live there - there is a drastic income difference
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:31 PM
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1) of course not. I’m saying ‘more likely’, not that it’s always that way but that it’s a relatively common scenario. Common enough that it could make a difference to the original stats being discussed by OP. 2) it depends on what studies you use, but from what I’ve looked at most studies for my country (UK) and the USA seem to suggest men are more likely to cheat overall. Also I know there is this weird reddit thing about the ‘average woman constantly receiving DMs’ but as an average woman I ca…
/r/ExRedPill27/04/23 02:31 PM
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I agree confidence makes you more likely to approach someone but I don’t disregard anyone (outside of believing their is a genuine safety risk or serious incompatibility), I have genuinely never been asked out by someone average in my entire life.
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 09:30 PM
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Dude not everyone lives where you live. What I’m saying is true to the society in which I live. The world does not revolve around you and whatever country or city you live in
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 09:12 PM
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I’ve got to a point i don’t think it’s as simple as good looking vs bad looking, it’s more about can you be average and put yourself out there. The very very small number of times I’ve been asked out in my life were good looking men, I’ve never had an average looking guy ask me on a date and if I did I would probably go (unless something else was seriously off).
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 09:09 PM
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Ohhh interesting read, thank you. Although it does literally point out men not being believe by mental health services is a problem, and the treatment mental health services would give is medication and talking therapy. So that still helps. Situational is difficult to solve, I wonder if from the report anything will be done because it’s basically all about social funding and all that’s happening at the moment is cuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 07:57 PM
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Again. This may be YOUR society. Not mine. 1) generally people face consequences for trashing people. get off the internet, it’s not real and full of people looking for attention for horrific behaviour. 2) men don’t loose half their stuff in a divorce? This isn’t the 1950’s 3) most child support cases favour the women because she is more often then not the primary care giver and the idea is it’s less disruptive for the children to remain predominantly with the primary care giver. In cases where …
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 07:41 PM
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Society isn’t anti men? At least not the society I’m living in
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 07:24 PM
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Google seems to disagree
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 07:19 PM
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Difficult to get dates, on the rare occasions we do it’s clear from about 10 minutes in the date is there for a hookup. And then you either have sex and are ghosted or the next messages are all about meeting up for more sex. Or you don’t have sex and therefore they aren’t interested
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 06:58 PM
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I’m in public at the moment, I will later. Could you link any studies to read?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:55 PM
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I disagree. Most of my friendship group want a relationship but find it’s difficult to find (myself included). It’s easy to have sex though, IF that’s what you want
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 06:48 PM
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What is the evidence is doesn’t work? For people going through mental health problems most common conditions respond best to a combination of talking therapy and medication. Talking generally does help
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:47 PM
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My best bets: 1) men are more likely to see a ‘relationship’ as casual sex, women will look at the same situation and call it a relationship. (This can both be intentional to get easy access to sex and unintentional due to poor communication) 2) men are more likely to cheat, have two girls going at the same time 3) men are just genuinely more private, where as girls tend to get excited when they meet someone and therefore tell people
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 06:08 PM
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I mean the left usually says you should open up about your problems and ask for help
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:56 PM
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Doesn’t the left literally encourage the opposite of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:10 PM
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I can tell you from experience, men certainly do not worry on dates
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:01 AM
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Fair enough, just don’t think I’d have the confidence. Obviously nothing crazy but 1-2 drinks can help with confidence without impairing anything
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:58 PM
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I’m not a confident Saint, one or two drinks is often a nice way to relax when first meeting someone. Especially as a lot of first date activities like live music or crazy golf involve alcohol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 05:27 PM
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Yes, prefer, as in open to people outside that. The ‘variables’ i am refer to are things you may prefer or not prefer, but it’s the sum total of all of them that make the decision. For example someone may be tall but may be rude or have no sense of humour so obviously you won’t like them. A short man may be kind and have a good sense of humour so you like them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 11:02 AM
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I tend to find bars are just people trying to fuck tbh (and so are most of dating apps)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:34 AM
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There are so many variables in dating, you need a decent spread of them. You can’t rely completely on one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:23 AM
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This is a bias view. I’m Gen Z and have the exact opposite experience. I’ve NEVER been asked out in person, I don’t really see it happening. Most of my social circle met their partner on apps. University campus really doesn’t reflect real life
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:20 AM
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50/50 I literally had this issue with one of my ex’s Just go to the ‘dead bedrooms’ sub on Reddit and see how sexual incompatibility messes up people long term
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:13 AM
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I completely disagree. You can say and do all the right things but when you get to the bedroom something just doesn’t work for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:55 PM
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Because I’d be 50yrs old by the time I found anyone and that’s a tad late. I don’t know a single man who would stick around this long (hell I know many who expect sex by the 2nd or 3rd date). Also god forbid you wait that long to found out you aren’t sexually compatible
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:08 PM
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General theme’s - they push for sex (ordering doubles when I ask for singles, trying to get me to go back to there’s)-> I don’t want sex on a first date -> I will explain this and then say no to a second date (or more likely they ghost me) - they insult me during the date by either insulting what I look like or my values/views I’ve never had a date that I ended because of ‘deal breakers’, because those two problem above seem to wipe out everyone i go on dates with :’)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 08:56 PM
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Women are desperate because it’s soooo hard to find a relationship and I think desperation means your hope can cloud judgement a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:43 PM
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Guess it depends who you date, where I live is the exact opposite of what you describe: - a date doesnt mean you get to fuck - women are FAR more judgemental of first dates then their boyfriend (love makes you blind after all) - women don’t just jump from relationships to relationship - ‘hoop jumping, game playing’ ‘person who doesn’t give a fuck about me’…. Those are all associated with DATING, not with relationships. Relationships are the exact opposite! Why do you think women think having sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:13 PM
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Oh a voice of reason in PPD, could that really be? Yeah nobody cares if you have a preference, just don’t be a dickhead about it. It’s sad this has to be said.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:28 AM
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I mean it is the last resort for most people Or in my experience it’s just used for men who want quick access to sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:23 AM
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Meeting someone’s family of course changes how you see them because it’s often the reason for many of their behaviours as an adult (both good and bad). However would it change it in a negative way? Depends really on the exact situation. Long term I want children so I wouldn’t want to be tied to a toxic family, but if my partner doesn’t associate with them at all then that’s different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:21 AM
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You must be super pretty, this has literally never happened to me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:33 AM
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Companionship, someone to share things with (experiences, thoughts etc) and someone who will let me explore the things they think and enjoy, hopefully a decent sex life, someone who is loyal and has my back
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:32 AM
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Actually I’m responsible and very much aware that condoms aren’t 100% for STDs. You should always know the STD status of the person you are sleeping with
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:22 AM
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The real questions haha
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:21 AM
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We don’t, talking to most my friends they would be flattered if this happened
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:43 AM
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If this happens once in my life I’m gonna be super happy haha
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:28 AM
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As a girl who has never had either happen outside of a dating app i think I’d probably cry of happiness if someone gave me their number or asked for mine… like does this shit really still happen?!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:15 AM
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How tf do you think a fuck boy gets treated better then a boyfriend?!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:04 AM
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This man does good sex 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:47 PM
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It’s a hair style (not just cut) and facial hair style that make a huge difference, alongside skin care, neatening eyebrows etc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:17 PM
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He ended it, whilst crying which was some mixed messaging. I’m not sure I will ever actually know why. He gave the generic blaming himself speech. He was far too good for me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:16 PM
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I’ve had 3 male friends make a big difference to their grooming regimen, and immediately starting getting dates once their new look was on their dating profiles (and they deleted the old pics).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:09 PM
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Worst: one night stand with a guy who did no foreplay, and thought he was amazing. Very arrogant. Had the passion of a plank of wood and then afterwards insulted me. Put me off sex so much I haven’t had sex since. Best: guy I ended up seeing for a while. From day 1 understood the importance of mental stimulation. Would be teasing the second we were together so that by the time we got behind closed doors I was begging for it before he even touched me. Sometimes it would be verbal teasing (whisper…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 06:46 PM
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I think you have misread my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 06:33 PM
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I think women (without children) working minimum wage jobs for significant periods of time are also lazy or don’t care about money. Same as men. I was just spitballing ideas about why the difference between sexes in the younger age groups might exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 05:51 PM
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Yup. Hence why I’ve stopped dating
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:47 PM
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Ignore OP, it’s more about individual reflection about your specific barriers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:26 AM
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Grooming is a HUGE game changer in dating because it’s shocking how many men actually don’t maintain basic grooming. A well chosen and executed hair/facial hair style can completely change the amount of attention someone gets. Also basic skin care can do a lot for some people
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:25 AM
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Yeah my standards are too high 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:21 AM
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Yeah I’ve done this with male friends, having a good style and working with your features can make a HUGE difference in the dating scene
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 09:41 AM
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I’ve had male friends ask me and always give the advice with the disclaimer that every woman wants something different, so you have to think about the type of women you like and then ‘fix your looks’ based on that. Usually it’s quite obvious things like they have facial hair or a hair cut that doesn’t suit them, or they are dressing one way but their actual type won’t be attracted to that style. Sometimes it just takes learning to draw attention to your good features e.g. how to dress for your b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 09:38 AM
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Friendship, loyalty. Someone who listen to e What I say and had interesting things to day tbrmrldbrr
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 12:15 AM
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If I found someone that genuinely loved me for me then it’s worth it, but currently that doesn’t feel possible
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 12:04 AM
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Not where I’m from haha maybe it’s a city thing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 10:24 PM
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We must live in a completely different society. I know one poly couple and literally can’t think of a single other person I know who would be okay with cheating. Every girl or guy groups I’ve been in people have seen peoples ex partners as off limits
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:55 PM
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‘Men have multiple girlfriends and women are sharing men unknowingly’ aka 50% of men would have to be cheats. I mean it happens but I hope to god it’s not that high Women happily share the top men knowingly, anyone who has been outside knows this isn’t true, women who actually like a man are generally quite possessive. I have to say I agree with the one where women think they are in a relationship and the man doesn’t, I’ve certainly been in this scenario before and I’ve seen a lot of women be in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:43 PM
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Interesting. In my country it’s the other way around. Men are bigger then women https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn03336/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:14 PM
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I have Instagram, I use it pretty regularly, I get a DM maybe once a year. It’s not exactly common
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:13 PM
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Tbf same applies to women, it only applies to women who are shaped like a man or who don’t work out
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:12 PM
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Surly high value men are fucking 8’s/9’s? Some women are blessed to not be horny all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:12 PM
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That’s nuts, does that just mean 50% of men are cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:11 PM
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How many women do you know that are happy to share their partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:11 PM
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So just under 50% of men are cheating? Why don’t cheating stats match up to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:07 PM
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Yeah and pretty girls are doing the same thing. Now what about the rest of us who get a date once a year and find that’s an achievement?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:07 PM
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So you think high value guys are fucking average or ugly girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:05 PM
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BMI is adjusted for sex… Anecdotally I’ve had an overweight BMI my entire adult life (other than when I was anorexic) and I don’t look very fat either, it’s all bum and boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:05 PM
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Almost like men also have high body counts…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:03 PM
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Because that’s simply isn’t true. If ‘most young women are in relationships’ then most young men must be too because most people are heterosexual. Also most young women don’t have ‘loads of options’ to date/be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:02 PM
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Every time I’ve tried actively dating it’s taken twice as long to heal whatever damage the dating experience does. It really isn’t worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:58 PM
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Ah yes because women are all fucking each other to raise that body count aye…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:56 PM
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Can’t tell if you are really out of touch or if this is sarcasm…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:55 PM
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These are obesity stats for women AND MEN. The men are fat too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:55 PM
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I’m insanely dumb then haha
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:40 PM
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1 year?! I’m not sure where in the world you are located but if I made men wait a year they would either: - be lying to be and sleeping with someone else the whole time - be deeply religious and therefore not compatible with me - be asexual There is not a single man that would wait a year and be compatible with myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:15 PM
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I respectfully disagree. And I find if a woman is a stay at home wife then generally she will cater to her husbands likes most of the time, because she recognises that’s her contribution. It’s not ‘neurotic’ to want a clean home, especially if someone has 9 hours to do chores everyday. I think for my generation (aka a generation where there isn’t any data), this is going to change dramatically. Genuinely almost all the women I know are dating down, men going to college is getting lower and lower…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:58 PM
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If you all have to live there and the person is supporting you it should be done to the highest standard that someone in the household wants (in the equal time that the breadwinner spends at work). It’s a joke because it’s so common how children and men don’t clean to moms standards, as you mentioned, but if that’s the standards the person paying for the house requires and they aren’t asking you to work more hours then they do it’s a fair standard to expect. I completely acknowledge thats my exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:34 PM
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Can be assertive and protective whilst favouring de-escalation. Being able to be a bigger person and walk away says a lot about a man. respects women (if I have one more date tell me how awful ALL their ex’s are, or how I’m not dumb/sensitive/insert something offensive here like other women I’m gonna scream) honesty (being able to recognise flaws and being open about the past is so important) Good financial sense (saving, doesn’t go into debt, understands when to say no) Gets on with family and …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:30 PM
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So are you just advocating for no sex before marriage? If so why not say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:24 PM
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Even in relationships where men and women work equal hours women still do more of the housework? If men actually can do all those jobs to an adequate standard maybe things would change, but the proof is in action not words and so far actions show men don’t do that. And every man I’ve ever dated (except one) was less successful then me. The only one who wasn’t a man-child and could actually take care of themselves domestically (cooking, cleaning, bill management etc) was the most successful one. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:20 PM
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This is literally it. Nobody else needed to post
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:16 PM
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Ah yes because men don’t spend money
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:15 PM
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This isn’t true, at least not in generations where women earn more equal salaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:15 PM
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This is a ridiculous theory by someone who has never had to pay rent or dated. It’s important to date someone in a similar economic setting otherwise you end up with a dependent, and most people in this economic climate literally can’t afford a dependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:14 PM
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No because their women acted as maids/nannys/cooks/cleaners etc. They earned money because their wives did absolutely EVERYTHING else for them. Do you think men who earn a lot less in a relationship do this? No. Hence everyone needs to pull their weight
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:13 PM
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^ this is literally what happened to me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:03 PM
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It is difficult. And you can’t bring someone to your friends and family before you yourself have even got to know them, you would look insane. Imagine if a girl was like ‘yeah we haven’t even had sex yet but come meet my dad’, any SENSIBLE man would run a mile. Because that’s crazy. Not have sex with them? For how long? No sex before marriage isn’t really my thing, I do want a sex life with people I’m dating? That’s a bit ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:03 PM
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Im not talking that many times, I don’t know many women with body counts that high. And nobody explains this to you but it’s really difficult to navigate dating and being used for sex. I’m just starting to get the confidence and understand the signs but it took being used to work out how to do that in practice. Which sucks, like really does but people lie and are so good at it, and are willing to do a lot of bullshit just to have sex. OP counts a ‘hoe phase’ as anyone who’s had sex outside of co…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:28 AM
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I mean there is literal data collected about number of sexual partners. Considering the average for sexual partners is in single digits I’m gonna go with that means most people don’t have a ‘hoe phase’ (Although your definition of one hook up being a hoe phase is absolutely ridiculous)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:20 AM
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Then you know a very specific type of girl
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:19 AM
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I mean tbf most women I know with ‘a lot of bodies’ have that because they are (were) naive, not because they wanted casual sex. Casual sex for women is almost always shit 50% of people I’ve slept with promised me commitment, treated me like they were committing, and the second we had sex bailed because in retrospect it’s all they wanted. But it’s REALLY difficult to be able to tell if someone is lying or not
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:17 AM
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A single one night stand in their entire life makes someone a hoe? Damn?!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:14 AM
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This is so wrong. I was with a guy who provided everything I wanted (and more) but his personality changed and I stopped loving him. If it was what he could provide that I loved then I wouldn’t have fallen out of love, because that aspect didn’t change
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 02:42 PM
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I know you asked men but I’m a woman and I wouldn’t either. I’m not someone who want to share
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:00 PM
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What does it say about me? I trust my partner, I expect the same in return. If they don’t I expect them to leave me, the same way I would leave them if I couldn’t trust them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 10:24 AM
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That’s what being in a relationship is. You have standards that you compromise on, and standards that you don’t. If you are completely selfless in life you will never be happy because anything that protects yourself can be twisted to be ‘selfish’. For me personally trust is a basic standard that I can not compromise on, I certainly can’t raise a child with someone who doesn’t trust me. That’s not to say it is a standard for everyone, some people may be okay with their partner not trusting them, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 10:21 AM
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Trust is a basic requirement for me personally when it comes to relationships, it just is, for some people that may not be a requirement but it is for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 10:19 AM
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Relationships are about emotions, again if someone doesn’t think that then we aren’t compatible
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:51 AM
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I don’t get my monogamous partners to constantly STI test which would be the equivalent, in fact I don’t know any married woman who gets her husband to consistently STI test (usually they don’t test at all unless they have symptoms and a doctor pushes for it) If someone I’m with believes I’ve cheated AND didn’t use protection AND kept the baby there is no way in hell they know me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:58 AM
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If a man is going to ask for a paternity test at birth then he sure as hell better tell me before I get pregnant so I can leave the relationship. I don’t want a child with someone who genuinely feels they can’t trust me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:49 AM
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What makes money making a more mature activity then care giving?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:28 PM
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I agree it doesn’t, sadly that seems to be the norm though
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:23 PM
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I mean most of it is lying or deceiving so…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:23 PM
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This guy has successful relationships haha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:22 PM
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But your post doesn’t address this? (It also ignores the fact that taking care of a partner and being there for each other isn’t a childish trait? I hope you don’t take care of your partner the same way you would a child?) Sorry I didn’t specify, most people become a lot more mature over their teenage years and into their early 20’s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 09:04 AM
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Considering women do the most care giving in society how does that make them mentally younger then men? Really odd take. Also maybe it’s just me so correct me if I’m wrong but I’m a completely different person to who I was at 14?!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:40 AM
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The majority of people where I’m from are not stuck in dead end entry level jobs. Most minimum wage/minimum skill jobs are held by teenagers. It’s a small minority that work low wage/low skilled jobs for life. When I worked in the retail and service industry the only adults around were people who considered working in those environments difficult and stressful (which they weren’t, hence why they were stuck in such jobs) or people that were just lazy (put no effort into anything they did, didn’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:16 AM
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The top bit I agree with. Women just want someone with stability when it comes to money. However status/social media followers is you talking out your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:04 AM
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You have made ALOT of assumptions. I didn’t say it said BAD things about a person to have a low skilled/low wage job (like they used to say about race). it just shows traits that aren’t compatible to myself. They aren’t objectively bad traits. Maybe we are thinking of different types of people, HVAC wouldn’t be someone I immediately exclude. It’s an average job. I’m talking BELOW average, minimum wage work with absolutely no progression. you assume with the education too. Finish high school yeah…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 06:54 AM
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Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 10:00 PM
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That’s interesting how you view it. I don’t view men like that as ‘beneath me’, hell I’ve dated men like that. But it does not work in a romantic setting, I tried, it doesn’t. I travel regularly, they couldn’t join me. Our interests and conversations were often only surface level because a lot of my interest are quite academic and they just wouldn’t be into it. We have different attitudes to literally everyday tasks (e.g. they would happily spend an entire weekend in bed, I’m a get up and go sor…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:10 PM
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I was on dating apps, I go out a lot and I’m open to dating. I’m an ‘independent woman’, most of my friends are too, we are all in the dating scene. I think you are asking a lot that every woman (or man) be open to the majority of the other gender, because realistic they won’t be remotely compatible with the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 12:37 PM
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These posts always kill me when it comes to money. You all moan about women ‘leeching’ off you for money, and yet consistently ignore the big subset of independent women who do pay their way in life/relationships. We exist, we just aren’t as attractive as women who don’t have a decent career because they focus their energy on what they look like. They have more time to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 07:43 AM
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Which is a form of using someone
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 09:30 PM
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Yeah, the later.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 09:18 PM
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Non consensual sex is rape. Im not talking about rape. You can have consensual sex and still use someone. Im talking about people who get sex through lying- either about their intentions (telling someone they want to be with them, are falling for them etc when that’s completely bullshit and they just want sex) or their actions (for example pretending to be faithful and in a relationship, when they are seeing multiple people doing the same thing). Consent is there but it’s still USING someone for…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:09 PM
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I mean in the standard dating scene women are often used to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:36 AM
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All the tasks I’ve mentioned are literal paid roles when not done for children because they do take that amount of effort, they are relentless and take a lot of work. And you’ve missed the point entirely, it’s not about the practicality of doing it all, it’s the mental side of running another persons entire life. You are essentially someone’s secretary/personal assistant, cook, cleaner, maid, event organiser etc all on top of having your actual paid job.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:41 PM
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I mean they need a lot more then 14 hours a week for the majority of the years they are children. Even just morning and bedtime routine on a weekday is more then that, then it’s running them around to clubs/activities, birthday parties/appointments, the whole weekend of hours that are clearly not accounted for. And then you are ‘on standby’ 24/7 which is literally the exact same as ‘being on call’ which in most professions is paid because it’s both out of hours and CONSIDERED WORK. Your young ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:32 PM
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According to the posts I usually see on here they like this idea of a woman that does everything for them BUT she also needs to work because they feel hard done by when they have to pay for things for her women are just physical beings to have sex with and serve you, once their beauty is gone trade her in for a newer model.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:24 PM
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Because it’s very very rare that their partner does do more. Just look at the stats in the study. The childcare hours don’t even add up. Where do the kids disappear to the rest of time. Even accounting for school hours I can’t work out how that comes even close for the number of hours required for childcare. I’ve only ever met women who downplay what they do around the house. They are the ‘default’ for almost all daily chores. Whilst men are the ‘default’ for the once in 6 month type chores but …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:19 PM
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Guess this is self reported data? Because generally men seem to overplay how much they do around the home and women underplay it because it’s ‘automatic’. Only 14 hours a week on childcare? Where tf are the kids the rest of the time? Passive childcare is still childcare, personally I think the most draining part, you don’t get credit but you still can’t relax and do what you want. I don’t think that’s counted here at all. And this is almost solely on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:44 PM
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Long term housewife is a tiny option open basically to the most attractive women (and remember prior to that they have to get someone to agree to them being a house girlfriend, which although I’ve seen online I’ve genuinely never seen IRL). Men and women both have options if they fuck to their life’s that isn’t housewife- minimum wage jobs always exist, healthcare and the military are always recruiting etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:24 AM
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So what are you talking about when you say traditional women are self centred then? Oh changed topics I see? Is that because you realised you have literally no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:08 AM
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Yeah traditional- as in man goes to work to keep wife, wife cooks dinner and keeps the house clean. You are a man on PPD, and looking at your attitude towards women the ONLY women you will be attracting (if any) will be traditional. You are completely incompatible with modern women. Traditional women are not ‘self centred’, they literally dedicate their lives to and risk their saftey for their spouse. That’s the opposite of self centred. Modern liberal women generally will pay their own way, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:06 AM
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Traditional women expect men to pay, exactly, because that’s tradition. It doesn’t sound absurd at all. If you want a traditional women then expect to pay for her, because that’s is by definition tradition. If you want a modern women you will need to have reviews that align with her, no educated independent woman is going to get with a man that hates women, they just don’t need to, they have their own lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:51 AM
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Read my post. There are traditional women out there, the same way there are traditional men. PPD men have values that align with more traditional ones, hence they attract traditional women. If you want a woman that pays her way become a modern liberal
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:46 AM
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PPD men live in a really warped reality, when you join us all here on earth let us know. It’s hard to address such a nonsensical post, but alas I shall try. relationships require effort from both people to make time for each other, if that’s what you mean by ‘entertain’. It is on BOTH people to do this and I’ve seen relationships fail on both ends because of this. society doesn’t condition women specifically to be seen as ‘special’, this is very much an individual thing and how their household g…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:39 AM
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None of this is true. Men don’t have more consequences for ‘fucking up their lives’
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:17 AM
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The data suggests it’s more a problem with boys having bad spending habits, you are referencing back to a time where women couldn’t earn as much as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:16 AM
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God this was me in one of my previous relationships, trying to save a deposit for a house whilst the guy I was with just spent so much money on useless shit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:13 AM
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This is my experience. I do know girls that are bad with money but the majority of people i knows that are bad with money are men- especially as they seem game consoles and new games (however expensive) as necessities rather than luxuries. They are also a lot less proactive at getting jobs or trying to progress, most only seem to when they have girlfriends (because the girlfriends literally write the CVs, help them apply for jobs and prep them for interviews)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:11 AM
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That’s very much dependent on who you go for. If you like women who are more old fashioned, so spend a lot of time and money on their appearance, then you will probably need to help out (after all you are benefitting from it). But if you go for a normal independent woman (far more common) then you don’t need to be out of pocket at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 04:27 PM
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Came here to say this but you beat me too it. One of the most difficult things to find in the dating pool is financial literacy. It’s crazy how many men (and women) my age live paycheck to paycheck with absolutely no plans on how to change that. If anything for my age group it probably swings slightly worse for men because they have more expensive ‘essentials’ like the cost of Xbox/games and give far more shits about what car they drive. Both very expensive purchases.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 04:25 PM
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They exist because our lives are busier and it’s harder to find someone. I agree the whole experience is disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 03:57 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 03:55 PM
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I tried off the apps for 2 years and didn’t go on a single date so that’s kinda what I’m expecting tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:25 PM
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Yeah I have. Tbh the only one who gave more relationship energy (introduced to friends, saw each other for a long time etc) was the only one I 100% was punching up for. Which I agree makes no sense. The short term stuff were all guys either at my kinda dating level or below, it felt like they fucked me more for ego boosts or numbers. The guy I was punching with didn’t need to do that, he had options and chose me. All OLD, it’s impossible to meet people IRL these days other then random one off’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:46 AM
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I’ve accounted for this, and I think maybe 1 guy I dated genuinely wanted a relationship (just not with me). The others just wanted sex, pure and simple, they tried to get you as drunk as possible, planned dates to be right near their houses so it’s easier to convince you to go back and they changed their behaviour and the entire contents of their conversation if you had sex regardless of how many dates it took.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:11 AM
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I don’t care what people do as long is there is informed consent. Which currently in the dating scene there isn’t, particularly as men consistently lie and manipulate. It’s NOT a lot to ask that people be honest with you. That is not a lot to ask. The issue isn’t they ARE NOT asking for casual sex, it’s not ‘fairly simple’ because they don’t ask for it. You seem to be defending lying, manipulating, using and hurting people intentionally. Tricking people. Are you an asshole or am I misunderstandi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:02 AM
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That’s literally almost all women that are ‘claiming’ rape, women that are that drunk. Women arent getting tipsy and claiming rape, if a normal woman regrets some drunken hook up they just keep it a secret and erase it from their memory. Making a big fuss does the exact wrong thing. The only time I tend to see what you explained (actual consensual sex being called rape) is in people with personality disorders, particularly more manipulative ones like BPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:21 AM
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If they can both give consent that is of course qtrue. But in my experience it’s a common dating tactic to get women as drunk as physically possible whilst you stay sober or at most tipsy, and then use that power to guide them back to your place and have sex with them. Sometimes they are awake, sometimes they are asleep, sometimes they are going inbetween. They say no 10 times it’s fine because they are so drunk they forget they have said no and are easy to disorientate. ‘My house is just here’,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:11 AM
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‘ Cry rape’, or you just don’t believe them and they were actually raped
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:05 AM
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Yeah it sucks. men are always chasing something better, they don’t want to settle (because they don’t need to). So literally all they want is casual sex. There is no sense of loyalty. Of all the dates I’ve been on in the end all have ended up admitting or demonstrating they just wanted sex, when ALL expressed multiple times they were looking for a relationship. It’s just so impossible to find someone not looking for a quick fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:56 AM
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So I was you, used to make most of the effort (with talking, planning date ideas). And was USED a lot. Lied to, manipulated, plied with alcohol so it would be easier to push me into bed. I just stopped doing it. Stopped playing this ridiculous dating game. Options dried up within 48 hours. Not worth putting in loads of effort to end up crying and feeling like shit everytime I realised I’ve been played. Which was EVER SINGLE TIME. Now just single forever I guess, until I decide i have the energy …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:42 AM
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I’ve read through most of this thread. This post is not rooted in reality. This post and even more so your comments are literally all about you slandering women (the hypocrisy is crazy)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:36 AM
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Why do you think it’s slander? Or are you one of these men that thinks holding people accountable for bad behaviours is ‘slander’?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:35 AM
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Might not be an emotional post but it’s not the truth. Also do you call every opinion you disagree with emotional?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:34 AM
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This is delusional. Sorry but it is. I’ve been on dates with plenty of average men, they use women too, being average (or even sometimes below) doesn’t mean they want a relationship or respect women. They still lie and manipulate, they still cheat if given the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:33 AM
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Men cover for men all the time, I’ve seen multiple (many ex) guy friends cover for their mates who are cheating, some even had wives and children at home. A lot of men protect the bad behaviours of other men. So no point asking them I told one of the side flings once that they had the audacity to bring to a group setting that she was a side thing and then half of the group stopped speaking to me. So yeah, men will defend bad behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:30 AM
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Different how?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:29 AM
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‘Don’t you get it’, how do YOU know they are lies?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:29 AM
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It’s buying a person. If you have to buy a wife you are entitled because you genuinely believe people are a commodity to be bought. Rather then working on yourself or realising maybe you are better on your own you’ve bought someone’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 01:54 PM
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I just want to recognise that this is a very complex issue. However my view is if the ONLY way a person will marry you is through exploitation or buying them then maybe you are best alone. Nobody is entitled to sex or a wife. You don’t get a pass on exploitation because you are autistic, or just an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 01:34 PM
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Some women are, some aren’t. Personally for myself I don’t find men with more money to be particularly attractive, it just kinda is, financial stability however is certainly a positive. But finding someone attractive for earning more money is different to the power imbalance of them bringing you out of poverty from another country and being reliant on them for everything (food, freedom to go anywhere, shelter) away from your support network. Very different. Even within relationships in the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:54 PM
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The common power imbalances seen in these types of relationships - financial - both in the fact people may feel they have to do this for financial reasons (which essentially makes it no better then being pushed into sex work) or once in the wealthy country they can’t work or claim welfare so are 100% financially dependent on pleasing their partner (wether this be a perceived necessity to please, or a demanded one, this will often leave people doing this they aren’t comfortable with because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:44 PM
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Because it almost always is. The power imbalance is simply too big and swings farrrr to one side
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 09:31 AM
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He didn’t change, you literally just said he kept his job? Him changing would be like him decided he wants to be unemployed and live on welfare
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:06 PM
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What do you mean ‘according to plan’? Because yes people can fall out of love if the person completely changes? I’ve been there, and it sucks. You do everything you can to make it work but there is limits.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 02:13 PM
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That’s the 2015 study they retracted due to a coding error, there were precious ones (I believe one in 2009) that have no been retracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 02:01 PM
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Women give 100’s of reasons why they don’t like men but they always focus on the stuff they can’t change rather then the stuff they can 🤷‍♀️ Liking someone is made up of so many variables, height is one of many variables, and yet people blame their entire failure on that. As I said, maybe that’s easier then having to put effort into things that can be improved
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 01:54 PM
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It’s a shame you feel that way, but I respectfully disagree. Women in love are very loyal
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 01:49 PM
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I mean men place more value on their own height then women do. I find a lot of men with GAPING flaws will blame their lack of success on their height (when it’s literally average height) rather than their obvious flaw. Maybe it’s easier to blame something you can’t change then blame something you can? I think there is a difference between an ideal fantasy man (aka Jason momoa) and who I actually date haha. I’m sure most women find Jessica alba fit, they don’t expect every women they date to look…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 01:21 PM
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The same can be said for men and health problems. Men are significantly more likely to leave a spouse who becomes unwell, where as women stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 12:47 PM
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Height matters more then weight, but outside of extremes I think men place more value on it then women actually do. Most women are happy with a guy 2inches or so taller then themselves, and most women are happy with a man who is healthy/little overweight (not obese).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 11:11 AM
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And you think she isn’t gonna bail him out when he makes a bad choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 09:41 AM
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Of course they do, it’s actually pretty common.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 09:38 AM
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I work in healthcare and in doing so have met a number of these women, they are incredibly high risk for abuse. Even just the financial abuse is just so common because usually the initial visa’s don’t allow you to work so they are completely financially dependent on someone else. They often don’t recognise the laws and protections they may be entitled too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:14 PM
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Exactly. Even if the pregnancy was carried to term parents make decisions for their children for the next 13 years at least!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:55 PM
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At this stage in my life 100% no. - I am still finding my way in the world, I don’t want the responsibility of a child whilst I’m doing that - I want to be able to share my lifestyle with my partner (spontaneous holidays, parties, road trip etc), I can’t do that if they have a child - I want my partners first child to be with me - I don’t want to have to plan my life around some other woman’s schedule - rightly so a man’s love should be more to his child, I want a period of being number one to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:09 PM
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Do you think women don’t have the internet? Or reddit? I mean they are exploited. The amount of cases we see of women brought to my country who end up trapped is shocking. It’s extremely rare, if not impossible, for the brides coming from abroad to actually understand what they are agreeing too. Many are walking into the situation very naively. Remember many have never had to face difficult cultures, and these are men that can’t get women in their own country usually for a good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:22 PM
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Guess I just disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:17 PM
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I’ve seen worse scenarios then what I described tbh. But they are possibilities that have to be considered. Even I’m BEST case scenarios abortions are painful and cause some kind of emotional and mental lasting effects (you can’t ever forget it happened), and adoption even when the families are amazing leave a bunch of problems for the children and for the mother who has to give them away. My solution would be men should have consequences, because otherwise there is no incentive to be responsibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:08 PM
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I don’t disagree that it’s woman’s problem, hence it’s the consequences of her action. Which is exactly why I advocate for the fact men should have consequences for their actions, after all it’s their child so they should pay
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:01 PM
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I would say acting like a hoe is intentionally having lots of casual sex, if you are having sex that in your eyes isn’t casual then you aren’t a hoe
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:00 PM
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‘This is a free, democratic nation’ Americans are super weird they link everything back to this. You can still be an asshole and be in a democratic country? The thing that makes you an asshole is lying. Being deceived and manipulated is hurtful. It doesn’t make you ‘emotionally weak’ to be hurt by something that’s hurtful
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 03:58 PM
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Idk I think it should be our personal duty to not manipulate and lie to people. People aren’t ‘hoe’s’ if their intention is a relationship and they keep getting manipulated into sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:59 PM
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So your suggestion is have sex ‘right off the bat?’. When 95% of men are just looking for sex? You would have a body count in the hundreds in no time because most men go on dates for sex, and most normal men would NOT be in a relationship with a girl with a body count like that. It’s nothing to do with value or what men look like, if they don’t want a relationship then they will fuck and chuck regardless. I lowered my standards a stupid amount because I bought into the idea I was too picky, so r…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:56 PM
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Oh yeah condoms suck, I completely agree, but better then pregnancy. And if I can’t get men to wear condoms then a vasectomy certainly isn’t gonna be on the cards
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:53 PM
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I mean clearly you will lie because your an asshole and don’t care who you hurt, as long as you get to fuck a hole. Why decent people don’t lie is because they realise you can inflict life long mental problems by using other human beings for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:51 PM
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But they have CONSEQUENCES. That’s the point - abortion has physical consequences (it’s painful, has physical health risks and for some people can have mental risks for life). It has social consequences (some people loose their community if people ever find out, some loose their family). It has mental consequences (especially for those that come from backgrounds where they have been taught they are literally going to hell for what they’ve done or are as bad a murderers). - adoptions also has ris…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:49 PM
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What’s ‘commitment’?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:43 PM
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Yes University/college is probably the highest risk place the average person in the west will be in their life when it comes to sexual assault and rape
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:42 PM
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Does abortion or adoption come consequence free then? Guess I missed something
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:03 AM
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That’s not a consequence? ‘But all women can do’… so again even more responsibility on women. Why don’t we just hold men accountable for their actions? Why are you so against men having any consequences for their actions when everyone else involved has to have them? I genuinely don’t get this massive push for men to be consequence free when even the child will suffer consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:50 AM
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I don’t think my case is ‘exceptional’, I think that’s the standard. The ‘exceptional’ cases are the ones you hear about where they get kicked of uni’s because you can’t exactly hide that. Cases like mine you never hear about because they tend to say we aren’t allowed to tell people, I had 2 friends both from different unis have similar experiences happen to themselves or someone in their flat, where pressure was out on the victim to no tell people and let them finish their degree. It makes univ…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:48 AM
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I think you are confusing spousal pay outs post divorce compared to child support? Some child support does go to things that the care giving parent also uses like rent, utilities, car/fuel, food etc because both the child and care giving parent need those things (yes, the care giver to your child needs food to care for your child). I’m not sure how you know the money being spent of the custodial parents personal things is from the child support rather then their own money? Especially considering…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:20 AM
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I strongly disagree. Women WANT relationships, so men have the pick if they decide it’s a relationship they what. Men in general want sex, so women have a minority to choose from. Pure numbers game
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:39 AM
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I’m curvy and I’ve had men say to me they prefer a body like yours (or at least from what you described). So people 100% do, don’t sweat it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:35 AM
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Honestly if this is your stance you are gonna be shocked how many men point blank REFUSE to wear condoms. I had to take a break from birth control due to health reasons and it’s genuinely about 50% of men who absolutely refuse to wear condoms, they genuinely look offended that you asked. It’s always ‘can we just try without’.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:25 AM
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We don’t get consent from something without capacity in the medical or legal world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:23 AM
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So in this case the child suffers? Whilst the father has NO consequences, absolutely none. The woman has consequences, the child has consequences, but men should be able to have absolutely none? We already struggle to get men to wear condoms and think about the possibility of pregnancy, and you want them to have even less incentive to think about it?! Also maybe it’s just me but I’m really not in favour of the tax increase that would be required to then cover all the child support these children…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:22 AM
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The rights of a child are more important to the rights of an adult. Vasectomies are an option, wearing a condom?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:19 AM
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Food, drinking and dancing. Alongside lots of talking
/r/ExRedPill08/04/23 09:15 AM
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How do we find a relationship then? Because there is no way to work out who wants a relationship and who wants to use you as a flesh light. They all say and act the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:05 AM
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Women are waiting to have sex with you because they want a RELATIONSHIP. If you just want casual sex please for the love of god tell them that. You are literally moaning that you can’t use women for sex who don’t want casual sex. How do you not see an issue with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:03 AM
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Id argue men are the gatekeepers to relationships. Plenty of women try to repeatedly date and get used for sex (or at least the attempt is there and they have to walk away) everytime. It’s men that get to hold that key, women want relationships far more so of course men are the gatekeepers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:01 AM
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This must depend on the person. I’ve done periods of not dating and periods of ‘dating’ (people trying to use you for sex). I’d rather be single then be repeatedly pumped and dumped. Being used as a flesh light is so degrading
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:00 AM
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It’s more options for sex, I would say LESS options to truly date/be in a relationship. Considering most women want the later, the loads of options to be used as a cum bucket aren’t exactly considered a good thing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 08:58 AM
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There are pros and cons to being each gender, I don’t think anyone particularly ‘has it better’ because the experience is so different - men: If you are below average it’s harder to find a date. But it’s EASIER to find a relationship. - women: get manipulated and lied too, get used as a flesh light, at risk of violence/rape. Easier to find a date because he just wants to have sex with you, harder to find a relationship. What would I personally prefer? I’d prefer to be a man in this dynamic (assu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 08:56 AM
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Generally not true. My rapist at uni got to finish his degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 08:51 AM
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Haha no, braces have become more popular now
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:29 AM
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I’m British what do you expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:28 AM
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Obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:13 AM
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Yeah maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:12 AM
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In one comment I’m being told my standards are too high, and in the exact same thread another guy is telling me my standards are too low
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:03 PM
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I’ve never met a man who does half of these things? If I put these as basic standards I don’t think I will ever meet someone, do they actually exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:02 PM
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Not sure but it’s not my shape for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:01 PM
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Being hot is not my problem, but I’m taking that compliment as a win :’)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:20 PM
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Can you please make men in the uk have this presence, I have a body similar to the first pic and literally get nothing in the dating scene
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:54 PM
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People throw around the word ‘vetting’ but what does this ACTUALLY mean, because when women do what I would call ‘vetting’ you say our standards are too high?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:39 PM
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The same problems with occur, it would just be more financial and legal issues then trying to leave the person
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 11:50 AM
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Honestly that’s a really good mentality to have, and it’s something I’ve tried to work on, but at the end of the day it’s just not who I am. Being rejected and insulted, especially after something an intimate as sex, is a huge hit to how to view myself. That’s probably sensitive of me, but it is and I don’t think that’s something I personally will ever be able to stop happening
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 11:12 AM
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Is there an alternative option? If so I’m down for hearing it. I would love a relationship, that is true. What I’m saying is my desire for a relationship is pointless, if I become a shell of myself whilst searching for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 11:11 AM
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You’ve misunderstood if that’s what you’ve taken away. Women aren’t asking to work equal hours in the home (if they work unequal outside the house), they are asking for equal in TOTAL.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:26 AM
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It’s monotonous. Difficulty isn’t a linear concept. For example ‘difficult’ can be physically hard, academically difficult, emotionally difficult. In the case of chores it’s the mental side that’s difficult, it’s grinds you down. And as you’re just proved is massively under appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:24 AM
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Shopping literally does take that long, and it’s one of my most dreaded chores. Not sure why you are claiming shipping isn’t a chore?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:23 AM
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You think marriage works out problems like this? People cheat in marriage, people have bad sex lives. People who wait until marriage end up rushing into it, I don’t think that’s the right thing to do. I want to KNOW someone before I commit my life to them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:18 AM
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I’m in my mid 20’s, not my experience at all
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:17 AM
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I’m saying income should be ignored when it comes to splitting jobs. Because income is a completely separate matter e.g. do you want to be with someone who is unemployed/earns less then you/earns the same/earns more. If you agree to being with someone who earns less but works the same hours it’s then unfair to turn around and expect them to do more of the housework/chores just because they are paid less per hour. They are still tired at the end of the day. They deserve a rest just like you. Havi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:34 PM
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Not in the context of discussing time and energy of ‘work’ contributions no. The HOURS of work are what matters (and energy, for jobs that have very different requirements). To repeat the example because it makes it clear. A person earning 20k a year working 40 hours a week, should not be doing more of the housework/childcare then the spouse earning 50k a year working 30 hours a week. Do earnings matter period, like in life, yes. But in the context of equalising contributions to a relationship, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:27 PM
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It’s standard, which is why I’m confused by the leech comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:14 PM
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She was a teaching assistant. Honestly I think maybe your moms experience is just a thing of the past. At least where I am. All those classes cost money, and also require people to attend (which they don’t have time for because they are at work). Yeah man you weren’t just middle class, you sound like you were very wealthy. Most people really can’t afford any of that. The most common reason where I am for people being SAHM is because childcare costs so much and they can’t afford it, aka there isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:07 PM
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Women do NOT get approached randomly like this in most places in the world. PPD really over pushes this weird narrative. The only time in my life I ever get approached is by drunk men when at bars who are approaching quite literally everyone in the bar. If I’m not looking then chances are I’m not gonna get a date until I change my mind and start actively looking again. This isn’t the 1950’s, finding a man isn’t some passive activity. ‘Not caring’ means no relationship. Last time I stopped OLD I …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:03 PM
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Why would they be a leech? You can still have the energy and time you put into paid work as a part of your contribution? (Also my contracted hours are 48 hours a week average with a maximum of 80 hours a week, and as a woman I ALWAYS pay my half for dates, I’m quite literally the opposite of what you seem to think I am).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:58 PM
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Can you re-explain your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:53 PM
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For a lot of women they are ‘locked’ in the home though, particularly in this economic climate where there is less and less money for leisure activities. Remember these people have NO money of their own, so even just putting the fuel in the car requires someone to have given them that money, and that person can take away that money at any time. Errands although ‘outside’ aren’t socialising, depending on where you live there is also very few social activities during the day because most people ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:51 PM
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In terms of distribution of work within a relationship yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:42 PM
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I’m sure there are things I don’t see, as is the nature of being an individual human, what do you think as a generalisation men do that women don’t see? Resentment will never be nipped in the bud in a relationship is one person is doing significantly more, and therefore is more burnt out/tired.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:40 PM
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Because money isn’t everything. A job for a lot of people brings freedom, socialising, mental stimulation and enrichment, the feeling of accomplishment. Some love being at home all day, don’t get me wrong, but for a lot of people it’s insanity inducing (did lockdown not teach you that?!). I can’t speak for other people but I genuinely couldn’t cope with not having my job and just being at home being a maid all day. If I wanted to be a maid and enjoyed it/got life satisfaction from it then I woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:39 PM
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Sympathy doesn’t pick up any of the work though? Sympathy doesn’t help with exhaustion of working a 40 hour week and then coming home to 6 hours of child care everyday. Women don’t want sympathy, they want the days that you get home first to come home to a clean house and dinner on the table (or at least starting to materialise). Or for SAHM the recognition that the man working gets a weekend off, and mornings and evenings, so she should get days off too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:24 PM
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Generally in the modern day everything a woman does, just less of it, and certainly less of the more emotional/mental side of running a household. I still think men do more of the DIY type stuff, although most couples now hire people to do this so what is actually left isn’t a lot. Generally they work more paid hours too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:22 PM
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That’s not the pay. That’s the hours worked. And I’ve made it clear the hours worked matter. If one partner works 0 hours, and the other works 40 then the partner that works 0 has to do 40 extra hours of chores. And then between them they can do all the rest fairly split.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:20 PM
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Really, what has the pay got to do with ANYTHING?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:19 PM
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Yeah this is the problem. No one minds doing the chores if they get an extra 2 days whilst their partner is at work. But women do care when they get in at 6pm and their partner asks where is the dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:18 PM
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Women aren’t saints. Everyone has their flaws. This is just my take on what was posted, you can be free to express your own opinion. Mine is that when it comes to work in relationships women (generally) do a bit more, and that becomes ALOT more when children are involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:10 PM
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I would be lying saying I’m happier single then in a happy relationship, but I’m happier single then being in a bad one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:07 PM
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Or alternatively this is actually a really common experience. A lot of men my age do not want relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:07 PM
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The earning part means literally nothing to me. I don’t believe earnings should be taken into consideration when thinking about work distribution in a relationship. When they are asleep you are cleaning, doing the insane amounts of laundry babies require, sterilising bottles/pacifiers, organising all the vaccines/baby checks, recovering from actually a very major health trauma to your body, pleasing all the relatives (including the in laws) who want you to go out with a clean/dressed/non moody c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:06 PM
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The issue with the study you have linked is it’s self reported. I don’t think it’s a secret that men seem to hype up the amount of work they do (the ongoing joke about announcing they have done the laundry or the dishes, like it magically does itself the rest of the time), and women downplay it (because it’s ‘automatic’). Like what counts as childcare? If you’ve got a baby or very small child as a woman your childcare is quite literally 24/7 apart from when you are asleep (and even then you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:52 PM
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I think he misunderstands. It’s not that they ‘don’t care’, I know very few women who don’t care, it’s that being single is better then the options they have had (if any). Which probably comes across as they don’t care because they aren’t trying to get in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:47 PM
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Maybe for you, for me sex is important (I have a good going sex drive) but it’s the everything else. Meaningless sex doesn’t scratch the itch at all. It’s other forms of physical affection that I’m looking for, it’s having someone who you share everything with and has your back, it’s someone to be exited to tell good news (literally usually as soon as you’ve found out yourself) and knowing they will support you if it’s bad news. And vice versa of course. Someone to give your love to. Someone to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:43 PM
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Men tend to ‘use’ women for sex because they lie about their intentions (aka use them) to get something they want, and when they have it they walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 03:16 PM
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They just lie, I ‘dated’ a guy for 6 months before he admitted he used me for sex and it was casual to him
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 08:58 PM
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Reasons for myself To do with me: - stressed at work (high work load, not getting breaks, generally emotionally taxing situations) - exhaustion (combination of overworked at my job and then overdoing it at the gym) - hormonal abnormalities due to birth control - hungry (was losing weight at the time) - didn’t feel confident in my body To do with my partner at the time - my partner didn’t make me feel wanted or secure - my partner stopped putting in effort during sex, it was all about his pleasur…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 08:53 PM
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Because experience at this point has shown me bigger guys are generally more secure and don’t lash out, insecurity can make people really lash out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 08:51 PM
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Most girls start of being nice at rejection, but all that does is put you in dangerous situations. Generally the more insecure a man (and height can be a reason), the more dangerous the rejection. Generally the ‘danger’ is just empty threats but I’ve been touched up enough to know it can be a lot worse, with the worst rejection I have ever did ending in attempted rape. I give one chance at a polite rejection now, any further rejections will be blunt af. Your ego is not worth my saftey.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 06:25 AM
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People on Reddit are so negative damn. There are literally about 15 reasons I l have personally experienced that stopped me wanting sex for a bit (I can think of literally hundreds of reasons), and everyone on here jumps straight to cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 06:23 AM
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Not rare at all, all the ‘casual sex’ I’ve had (and the same for a lot of my friends) we were lured into on the promise of a possible relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 05:10 AM
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I would assume it’s the same as men, you learn and grow from your mistakes. Each relationship you have will hopefully help you learn more about what you do and don’t like, what’s something you will compromise on and what’s something that’s non-negotiable in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:14 PM
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I’ve tried to date both. Both had MASSIVE drawbacks. - ugly confident men- make me feel really bad about myself, just kept putting me down. Some were arrogant af (this has happened on 3 different first dates now) - shy, insecure but attractive guy- shy and insecure is okay if there is room for change and growth. But long term this ruins things like your sex life, social situations etc. So it will depend on the individual. Probably more likely to pick shy and attractive, and just help support him…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:13 PM
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Then why does he expect regular sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:04 PM
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Sounds like as a couple they would need to explore that more, accepting there may not be an identifiable reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:10 PM
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‘Women love having sex with men they’re in love with’ … this just ignores about 1000 reasons I can think of that she might not want sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:02 PM
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The mind is THE MAJORITY of female sexuality, I don’t think I know a woman who can get turned on purely physically, the mind has to be involved. Generally male sexuality is more visual and physical. It caters to the different needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:19 PM
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Yeah well I’m western, you are looking at figures under 10%
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:02 PM
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Have issues with both. Option A would get a chance, a lot of bedroom things can be learnt IF someone is willing Option B has immediately red flags that rule him out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 12:30 PM
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How many men are under 5’7?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:49 AM
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Genuinely I’ve stopped dating because it was so bad, I was just being used for sex and men would lie and manipulate to get it. And if I give don’t give in I was ‘fat’ ‘dumb’ ‘entitled’ ‘rude’
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:44 AM
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So thinking of specific friends - Kindest Man I know, would be a catch based on how he would treat a gf. But he is lazy and all the things that come along with that (obesity, jumps between minimum wage jobs). This alone wouldn’t be the problem, there are obese women who sit on the sofa all day and do nothing, but he also had high standards, not insanely high but far too high for what he can offer. - another friend of mine has no luck because he hung up on a girl, and despite ‘trying’ with other …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:08 AM
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Extreme levels of short maybe, like pathologically so, but short men still end up in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:16 AM
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I didn’t say suck as a human being. Everyone has flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:15 AM
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But then you look at why he’s an asshole according to you. I’ve been with men that my friends disliked, asshole is probably a bit strong but they disliked them. The reason? He was the least asshole I’d ever been out with. Lesser of a range of bad
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:15 AM
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Sarcasm noted. And it’s not ‘chads’ that do the tricking, it’s all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:13 AM
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My personally cut off for height is about 5’7 so a bit shorter then 6 foot haha. And no, I mean people who were obese or clearly lacked care in their appearance or were lazy (bad job, no effort into things like hygiene or health).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:12 AM
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I think the ‘sleep around after heartbreak’ isn’t as common as you think, most girls I know who’s tried it (myself included) have casual sex once and realise its shit, and then try to avoid it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:10 AM
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I mean yes they are missing out on opportunities if they do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:09 AM
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Right I’m so done with this ‘no human connection’ bullshit. Women who say they want sex often DO NOT WANT HUMAN CONNECTION. 90% of my sex life has been men tricking me into bed because they just want sex. Girls also want human connection btw, but men gatekeep that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:08 AM
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This is completely false. What’s this threads obsession with tall people. How do they think genetically short people exist if they don’t have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:02 AM
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It’s very much down to the individual which is why there is no standard advice. A list won’t help anyone else. What you need is a friend that’s actually honest with you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:00 AM
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Yeah these aren’t the reasons. I have friends that have all those things who have had girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:59 AM
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1) you’ve moved the goal posts. They do get laid. But that’s not good enough. Now you want to police people’s thoughts. 2) no. Most women want relationships, and will repeatedly be treated like shit by men in hope that just one will actually be a decent person and want a relationship. If they saw men as trash they wouldn’t repeatedly give up all self respect to try to date them. 3) men are the gatekeepers of relationships. Everyone knows this. 4) the orgasm gap begs to differ, and so does my per…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 09:06 PM
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I would say if that is there thinking then they DO have mental health problems. Why should women live their lives without relationships because of ‘someone else’ (aka men wanting causal sex, not relationships). Or does going without only matter when it’s a man? Also when you refer to ‘someone else’, you are referring to a person, and the only way to get sex from a person who doesn’t want it is to rape them. So please to god hope I read your comment wrong but does it actually translate to ‘why do…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 09:00 PM
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If men are killing themselves due to lack of sex it’s not the lack of sex that’s the problem, sex won’t cure mental health problems that severe. They need actual medical support.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:55 PM
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‘They do not look like models’. Touch the grass. Go to your local high street. Plenty of average, or even ugly, couples exist. They aren’t ‘having a lot of it’ by choice. Every bit of casual sex I’ve EVER had I was pushed into or tricked into by men lying. Most (not all, but most) women want relationships, our body counts go up because men use that knowledge against us. They are losing because as explained they want casual sex and women don’t. Women are ALSO losing, because they are being used a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:52 PM
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Technically their friends could pay for a prostitute, so yeah ‘no one can do anything’ isn’t accurate. But if you mean in a situation where there sex isn’t paid for what do you expect to happen? I’ve just come from a PPD post where they are saying women who have casual sex loose their worth. You can’t moan women won’t have sex and then demonise them when they do. Also short of raping a woman I’m not sure what solution you can offer here? Yes it does suck to not have sex but the alternatives are …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:47 PM
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I don’t think people who do all the right things don’t get laid. There will be a reason they don’t get laid. And unless that reason is addressed then they still won’t get laid. Also most women DO NOT WANT CASUAL SEX. So unless they switch it up to wanting a relationship, and having sex within that context, they are kinda losing from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:41 PM
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How on earth can you see the suffering of being human trafficked and abused as the same as not having sex? I mean this sub says some mad shit but really?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:38 PM
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Most normal people are empathetic to many different plights, we can’t help them all (some we can’t help at all).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:37 PM
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As if obese people don’t date each other ffs. Most obese families are ALL obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:36 PM
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You can have a good ‘resume’ and still be an asshole, I shocking amount of men don’t understand this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:35 PM
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Or more importantly doesn’t make you a good person or remotely pleasant to be in the company of
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:33 PM
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This is VERY flawed thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:32 PM
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I’ve personally never met any. All men I’ve known that REALLY can’t get anything have an identifiable reason for that being the case. Tbh I don’t believe they exist. There is always an explanation as to why something happens, there will be an explanation as to why the person you are thinking of is single.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:28 PM
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Nice 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 07:26 PM
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Women are locks? We are objects to you? That explains a lot about your POV I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 07:13 PM
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So how does that maths work? How can you have sex with loads of women but then we also need loads of virgins? By your logic you get to condemn women to lonely lives because you want to use them to get experience, and therefore make them less desirable. Just sounds like you are going for a power trip? You sound quite frankly like a cunt. Also why does a woman having sex mean she doesn’t respect herself? But you having sex doesn’t mean you lack self respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:42 PM
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*don’t be ho, but have sex with me (see how that message is confusing). If only red pill men had body counts even close to what they expect women to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:25 PM
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5% is certainly a low ball, particularly if you are only counting men who actually interact with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:19 PM
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‘Anything for a woman’. Maybe we use the word ‘anything’ differently but basics I literally can’t find in the dating scene at the moment including things like - Get consent - maintain basic fitness - get off the game console and actually build an in person social life/career - commitment and loyalty
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:18 PM
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I mean women are individuals so that would make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:15 PM
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From where I live (and subsequently where I’m looking for partners) it is not, there are plentiful jobs and education is available to everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 08:25 PM
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Running is on top of the 5 hours of resistance/weights/core exercises. Trust man it’s genetics. I have stretch marks, flabby areas and cellulite.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:38 AM
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That’s genetics mate. Sorry to disappoint. As someone who carefully watches what they eat and works out 5 days a week (plus hiking at weekends, and runs 3 times a week), I have never had close to a 10 body. At absolute peak maybe a 6-7
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 08:25 AM
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I know, but 2 hours a week? That’s literally nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 05:35 AM
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I’m a doctor myself haha, it doesn’t really matter how much hormone is in them, if they didn’t alter your cycle and knock it off they literally wouldn’t work. It’s the knocking off of natural rhythms and natural body processes that fucks me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:15 AM
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Even considering diet you really can’t tell. 2x1 hour gym is not enough, that’s below even the minimum recommendations for basic health.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:14 AM
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IUD insertion isn’t something I feel comfortable with Plus ya know the idea of longer, heavier periods isn’t very appealing
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:12 AM
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Probably a hell of a lot. I thought I was asexual until I came off birth control, my natural libido is actually considered quite high! The change was dramatic and happened within a week. Just under a decade of my life I didn’t find people attractive or want sex. Crazy And yet men keep asking me to go on birth control so they don’t have to use a condom. I’m dreading having to go back on it now I know that I can feel like this. But I don’t easily see another option, it’s just expected in the datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 10:07 PM
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Second option for me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 10:02 PM
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I think that’s why people on Reddit assume when I say I have curves I’m fat :’) like don’t get me wrong, I’m 9lbs overweight, I’m fat, but I’m also curvy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 09:51 PM
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Tbf a lot of women in my generation workout, but to see ‘gains’ a women has to LIVE at the gym and is probably below the healthy fat percentage for a female. I find it really difficult to tell who does and doesn’t go gym, and I’m a woman that goes to the gym haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 09:49 PM
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1) average men can pull this off. Downright ugly probably not, unless you were also picking up an ugly girl. 2) it’s not impossible. In fact I swear if men just read some of the books women read and used it as a guide they would do quite well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 09:47 PM
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Best option to meet women. That’s my point. If it was that bad they would do what a lot of women do, delete the apps because it’s better to be single then deal with how you are treated by the men on them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:56 PM
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You said by ‘American standards they aren’t overweight’, I looked up the ranges for American BMI recommendations, I’m just correcting saying they are probably all overweight and about half are likely tipping into obese. Legitimate question, how are you 50lbs overweight (which surly makes you obese? Not overweight) but still athletic? I understand being 10 or maybe even 20lbs overweight when taking into account things like muscle mass, having big boobs/bum etc. but 50?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 04:26 PM
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Those women are all overweight? About half probably have a BMI that’s obese
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 04:22 PM
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My general experience is - if a woman does the breaking up she ‘gets over it’ quickly because she mentally broke up months ago. Women really commit in relationships, it takes a lot to break up with someone. They go through a lot of the emotional side whilst still in the relationship, and often the reason the breakup happens is because she does this entire emotional process and the guy doesn’t even notice because he isn’t paying attention. - if a man breaks up with a woman he’s back on a dating a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 09:34 AM
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I would ideally find someone in real life but I’m a 6, not an 8+, so it’s not like I get approached or any offers. And if I approach a man in person they will just say yes regardless of if they think I’m cute because it’s a possibility of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 09:20 PM
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The first couple of days they push the account (it’s part of the algorithm so you don’t delete it), but it died down within about a week
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 09:06 PM
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Not really, 5 likes is genuinely a good day. I do regularly have days with 0
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 07:20 PM
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A lot of men will sleep with any women that will sleep with them. Regardless of attraction. But they won’t be with someone in a relationship they aren’t attracted too
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:18 PM
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Nah that’s not true. I’ve got friends who have never been asked out on a date, I’ve only been asked out on 3 from OLD. And we are all average, healthy weight. You are saying an obese, ‘not attractive’ woman is getting dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:45 PM
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Idk who she is?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:23 PM
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Not ‘running through’, but average guys where I am are doing well enough they don’t hang around girls if they were just looking for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:17 PM
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Of course they exist. They just aren’t a majority. At least not where I’m from. Men don’t commit before sex, at least not outside of very strict religious communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:16 PM
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Gender interaction was great? Family structure was great? Again. ROSE TINTED GLASSES. It was legal to rape your wife. Unmarried mothers were sent off to be abused, in some cases their babies were literally murdered at birth or a few weeks later and buried in mass graves. Domestic abuse was practically legal because people never spoke up about it and even when they did society often blamed the victim. A lot of children were sexually abused by relatives and teachers (this was a HUGE scandal across…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:47 PM
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I know I’m not high value but what makes me not medium value? I would 100% date a man that meets the standards I hold myself too, like damn. A man that works out 5 times a week, has a good group of friends, has a good career that they love, generally intelligent and sociable. I’d be completely down for that sort of man. He wouldn’t be an incel!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:36 PM
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I strongly disagree. 90% of my friends body counts were men that convinced them they wanted relationships and then dipped after they got sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:35 PM
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They are two separate statements. In fair it would be mean to say these specific men were ugly, that’s probably a bit harsh and because I strongly dislike them because of their actions. But they were average, wether that’s ugly or not to you seems to depend on the reddit user. They certainly weren’t objectively good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:18 PM
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This is an internet thing, not a real life thing. There is a difference between ‘I want to hook up with people’ and ‘we should shame people who want that’. Feminism advocates for the mentality of you shouldn’t be shame IF that’s what you want, not that it’s better or that most feminist want casual. Most feminists I’ve met in real life want relationships. Also I’m not sure rappers or athletes represent the normal population :’)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:15 PM
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Why are standards so high for women then? That’s crazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:13 PM
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Didn’t say they were ugly. Everything on Reddit is such extremes. They were probably 5/10, the guy I was punching for was more a 8/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:12 PM
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Who?! Literally everyone women I know who has been pumped and dumped was lied to in order to be put in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:11 PM
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I love that you know that without seeing a picture of them or me :’) are standards for women that much higher?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:00 PM
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Tbf that’s mad numbers. I’m a 6/10 24 year old in a major city and I get maybe 5 likes a day, with currently 100% rate of them just wanting sex (even though my profile explicitly says I don’t want that, which they wouldn’t know because they mass swipe).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:57 PM
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They literally just want a hole to cum in. They don’t actually like the fake profile you created. I’m not sure why you are writing this finding like it’s something women should be positive about? A really high number of Men will pump and dump anything with a pulse… congrats on that finding.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:56 PM
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If it was that bad men would be leaving, they don’t, the ratios show that. Actions speak louder then words.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:46 PM
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80 years ago we were literally at the end of two major wars. Let’s take off those rose tinted glasses mate. The world has always been shit, people just always idolise the past because they remember the good bits. The birth rates in sub Saharan Africa are pretty high still… let’s not use birth rates as a measure of society being in a good state 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:35 PM
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All objectives measures would suggest they were?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:34 PM
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Have sex first time? Doesn’t this sub literally demonise women with high body counts? And I disagree. Most men seem to be on dating apps for sex, most women for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:19 PM
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That’s literally not why OLD is all men. A lot of Average Women can’t find a man that like IRL, those average women then go on dating apps, dating apps are fucking horrible. Average woman then realises it’s genuinely better to be single then suffering through dating apps, it’s not that they are finding men IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:14 PM
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Ugly guys pump and dump too. In fact the only person I’ve seen more long term from a dating app was a guy who I was 100% punching with. All the guys I was punching down pumped and dumped, or at least tried too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:13 PM
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Where are your friends?! I quit dating apps because it was just men that want sex. Currently only use dating apps to meet girls despite being more attracted to men because I genuinely found men on dating apps reduced me down to just being a hole they can fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:12 PM
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Dating apps drive away women because of how men on them act. Like lots of my friends I managed a couple of months and it’s caused me so many issues that I had to delete them. Why are Men therefore surprised when it’s hard to get a woman on a dating app?!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:08 PM
2

Why can’t you be compliant, then there won’t be any fights and everyone gets ‘peace’
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:05 PM
3

This makes a lot of sense tbh. The only long term relationship I’ve been in was a bit like this. It took me ages to get over the gradually introduce insecurities he gave me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:53 AM
2

EVERYONE has red flags if you look for them. I’ve never met someone without them (regardless of what they looked like). If you ran away at every red flag you would never ever be with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 10:55 PM
3

There is being honest and there is being an asshole. If you are directly asked then sure be honest, by why bring up a subject you know is likely to upset someone for no reason? The only reason to do that is to make someone feel bad about themselves. I’ve never felt the need to comment on someone’s receding hairline on a first date and tell them we can work around that, or someone’s weight or having bad skin. I don’t see why I would bring it up when it would obviously hurt the other person. I’ve …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 10:52 PM
1

It’s been a combination of things. Sometimes just online dating, I approach men too. I don’t really get approached other then for sex on nights out, but I will take number and message once everyone is sober so if they want to meet up we can. Friends of friends would be ideal but the situation hasn’t really arisen, most the men I’m friends with are in relationships and so are a lot of their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 09:53 PM
4

Do you not think that’s what I’m trying to do? Issue is people lie, and they are ridiculous good at it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 09:48 PM
8

I think it’s the dating scene in my area. People are seen as very disposable. It’s why ‘situationships’ are so common where i am, people find someone they are happy with but are always wondering if they could find someone better. I’ve had 5 female friends end up in this weird scenario, where you are seeing someone for months (dates, staying at theirs, meet their friends, talk about the future etc) but the guy always wants to keep his options open.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:26 PM
4

Combination of reasons. A few have girlfriends, a few don’t want relationships (just casual sex), I’m not the type of some.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:14 PM
2

There’s a lot of grey areas. It’s a combination of intent and what exactly you are doing- a small emphasis on a personality trait of yours you know she will find attractive vs a complete personality transplant just around her. Your example is flirting, not manipulative, assuming you are open to it being rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:11 PM
3

They are pretty open about it in both the talking stage and on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:59 PM
2

No. Although the line can blur in some situations. For example a lot of people improve through each relationship- they learn what women want and how to provide that), they improve in confidence, they get a better understanding of how women are turned on (think informed by porn 15 year old vs a 30 year old who has actually had LTR). A lot of seduction is about being able to read body language, reacting to when someone likes something, and being good at communicating. It’s not manipulative. Manipu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:58 PM
7

Maybe this is because I’m not American but banter with friends and insults are different things. Like I can rip into friends, I don’t need to insult the entire of woman or man kind to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:24 PM
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I wouldn’t tolerate that behaviour in friends, why tf would I tolerate that behaviour in someone I’m thinking about dating or being in a relationship with? Seriously if your friends or dates are insulting you then it’s better to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:15 PM
1

So if an increased number of people started being abusive, because it was the majority it would unrealistic of women (or men, which ever way round it happened) to have ‘not abusive’ as a standard? If people just keep getting fattier, lazier, ruder etc the standard should keep going down?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:13 PM
1

Again. Just because people aren’t doing something doesn’t make it not realistic. I would say unrealistic standards are standards that are difficult (or impossible) to obtain- for example 99% of the population can’t get rock hard abs without sacrificing their time and energy to a strict diet and exercise. Or a big proportion of the population will never get even close to 6 figure salaries. Asking any of that would be unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:08 PM
2

Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:05 PM
12

My general experience with dating down is that men are MEAN, presumably to make themselves feel better. I can’t believe how confidently people insult you on dates?! Being told I wasn’t skinny but he can ‘work around that’, by a guy who was literally overweight probably in the obese category in terms of BMI, whilst I’m a pretty active gym goer was a real wtf moment. Or how many people find out my job and then kinda insult it or really explain how difficult their (often easy) job is. Also I find w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:04 PM
2

Hahah. No
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:56 PM
3

That isn’t true. We could all decide to live like slobs, the basic requirements of health and employment would then be a minority but wouldn’t be unreasonable. Just because a lot of people aren’t meeting basic requirements doesn’t mean they are unreasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:56 PM
4

Everyday life (work, gym, bars, festivals/events etc) and online dating
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:42 PM
3

I honestly doubt it. I’m not dating anymore because I literally couldn’t take it, if you go into dating a nice person you come out either broken or hating everyone. It’s not worth it for the very small chance you will find someone you like. 6 weeks and I already feel myself really starting to hate men, it’s why I’m stopping dating altogether. I need a nice cleanse by going out with some of my male friends to remind myself there are good men out there, and I’ve stopped dating and won’t go back fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:07 PM
1

People should put a bit of effort into life. Try to be active, work hard at your career, read a bit into what a man/woman wants in a relationship or ask your friends who are that gender. Stop treating people a disposable. With regards to your appearance partake in basic grooming, look after your facial hair for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 04:56 PM
1

Standards are reasonable. In my area and dating age group the standards are reasonable but there are only a small number of men who meet them because the amount of effort men expect to put in is crazy low.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 04:55 PM
2

What planet do you think we live on?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 04:53 PM
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Basics I have to dropped below in order to get a date: - have a career (not saying earn a lot of money, I’m young and at the start of mine too, but just something that you at least have some passion about and room to grown. I don’t care if it’s academic or artistic or a trade. Just something. If you are burnt out hating the world and your career at my age you are gonna be a bitter person in 5 years time) - basic health (don’t smoke cigs, don’t be a drug addict/alcoholic, hit up the gym or some s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 04:52 PM
3

This is so true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 04:46 PM
4

Have to agree with PARTS of this. I lowered my standards and was subsequently treated like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 04:46 PM
5

The EXACT same happened to men. Male standards are now insanely high. Sure they will fuck an average person as long as they have a vagina. But they do not settle down anymore because they are so hyper aware of all the hot women out there due to social media, and a lot secretly believe they have a chance with them. Social media has made women seem even more disposable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 04:45 PM
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Yeah I’ve done the ‘lower your standards’ this for the last 6 weeks. Terrible advice. I’ve had such a horrible time that I’ve literally deleted all dating apps and decided dating isn’t for me, at least not for the foreseeable future.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 04:43 PM
3

It works when he is potential man to like, she’s doesn’t have to like him. If someone really isn’t into you or even entertaining the possibility then there isn’t really anything you can do to change that, at least not in a standard date setting. In fact seduction is often to key from going from a potential to ‘oh I want this man’. And the once in a relationship it’s one of the key ways to keep a girl interested. Looking back on previous partners and my friends precious partners, the men we staye…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 04:36 PM
2

Correct. I think the majority of people learn it anyway. You won’t find many 15 year olds who can ‘seduce’.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:56 AM
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So you can be seductive without being manipulative, but a lot of men (both ‘natural’ and learnt) don’t seem to get this. Just look at all the short videos that are coming from TikTok rn of girls asking partners to do really simple things and they literally swoon (hell I blush just watching it). There’s that silly one where they put their hand on the doorframe and like kiss them against the wall, every single comment is a woman saying she would go weak at the knees for this. Or god forbid a man a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:46 AM
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Depends. Has he just grown up and gained confidence and life skills through experience, and that general increased comfort with your quirks you learn to accept with age. Has he worked on his insecurities like going to the gym, or public speaking at uni or finding a hobby that increases his confidence. Or has he gained confidence through learning to be manipulative from online videos or paid courses by assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:05 AM
1

Yeah we want commitment, from someone we are compatible with. Comparability includes attraction (although attraction is very personal, and most average women are looking for average men).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:41 PM
0

Only a few obligations? A man’s obligation in pregnancy is NOTHING. There isn’t a single obligation during pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 08:17 PM
12

To make it fair is probably suggest the man should buy it (then both suffer consequences). In reality men often don’t care, so the woman buys it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 11:21 AM
1

Why is it FOMO? I genuinely have just NEVER met a man that worked harder in a relationship, I honestly thought they were things of the past or demands that can only be made by women that are 9/10-10/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 11:20 AM
1

Maybe this is where I’m going wrong, men I’ve been with defo don’t work harder :’) maybe that’s the problem. Although how tf do you find men that work harder?? I feel like if that’s what I look for then I’m really gonna be alone forever
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 11:15 AM
1

I don’t really have a ‘vetting’ process, it just depends on when feels like the right time for that specific person. Maybe I need a vetting process, but it feels weird applying the same rules to everyone regardless of the person or context.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 10:46 AM
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This isn’t after long periods of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:55 AM
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Men lie about their intentions all the time to have sex and then ghost or become assholes afterwards (so they make you end it). I’ve had men sleep with me and within a few hours start insulting what I look like, telling me to not be needy, telling me they don’t want anything serious. After I explicitly stated I want a relationship and they said that’s what they want too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 10:05 PM
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This isn’t true at all. I tend to find men who want purity have pretty high body counts themselves and guilt you far more into having sex. Men who aren’t fussed generally I’ve found to actually be more respectful of basic concepts like consent and boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 04:09 PM
4

Having more attention isn’t a good thing if it’s BAD attention. Genuinely 95% of the attention I receive is just someone looking to get their dick wet. The attention isn’t even on me, it’s on my vagina. Is that worth it for the 5%? No, im not sure it is. Plus when you then consider within that 95% are people who are straight up psychos- I’ve been spiked twice, attempted rape once. And I know compared to some of my friends I’ve been extremely lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:38 PM
2

Nothing you saying is clear
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:35 PM
5

Haha glad I’m not the only one, I read this thread and I’m so confused
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:34 PM
3

Idk man, I know a lot of people who work jobs they love but I’m doing so get paid shit. Or people who work jobs they hate but get paid loads
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 10:07 AM
3

Not the people I know, maybe it’s the country I live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 10:06 AM
2

That’s the type of person I personally don’t want to be with. We spend so much of our time at work. Id rather work a meh paid job that I enjoy, then make more money but want to poke my eyes out everyday with bordem/dissatisfaction Also it speaks to the type of person you are. Are you all about money? Helping people? Do you enjoy teaching? Are you creative? Do you have a good work ethic and drive? Are you willing to work hard when you want something?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 11:55 PM
2

Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:40 PM
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I’m a girl from the uk and I do usually ask what people do, but it’s because I’m genuinely interested. A job tells you A LOT about a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 05:40 PM
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Having a child was a priority, this is going to blow your mind but people change. Until you are a parent you can’t understand what it’s like to be one. Also I’m sorry but you are rather focused on health risks in later life… despite the fact there are hundreds (if not thousands) of other factors that impact the health of a mother and baby. There is no reason a healthy woman in her late 30’s can’t carry a baby to term and provide a child with a good life. The same way there is no guarantee a 20 y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:35 PM
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You don’t seem to recognise the consequences of having a baby too early. The isolation/depression and host of post partum psychiatric disorders. This carries on in your 20’s when you realise your friends are all finding themselves, enjoying life, travelling on a wimp and you are stuck at home with a screaming child. All 3 of my friends who had children young are now chronically on anti-depressants as a way to cope with this. It’s shit. They admit to me it’s shit and they wish they could tap out.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:56 PM
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This is a post clearly written by someone with either very extreme privilege or very little exposure to pregnancy/birth/child rearing/relationships and the economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:50 PM
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No shit :’) it’s literally their job. You are paying for a fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:47 PM
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Honestly I wasn’t sure what I was expecting but damn they nailed it. Even the waiters who brought the drinks had be briefed to be very attentive. When you go to the toilet they literally hold you hand going down the stairs haha. If men could watch it they would realise just how to up the libido of their ‘low libido’ girlfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 08:40 PM
4

The ‘magic Mike experience’ tour at the moment is a good balance between stripping and a show tbh. I REALLY enjoyed it and I don’t think I’d enjoy an actual strip club. Yes there were lap dances and stripping, but there was ACTUAL very skilled dancing including street/ballroom/tap ( even slow dancing with some of the audience). Some of the most attractive ‘stripping’ and dancing started with them fully covered in suits because a well groomed man in a suit genuinely something that turns a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 02:09 PM
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Sounds like you are projecting your own insecurities here. 1) this generally doesn’t happen. Sometimes there is A REBOUND (as in 1), but a lot of people don’t even do this. 2) considering the average number of people a woman sleeps with in her LIFE is about 9 then a partner count of Leas then 5 is pretty common
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 11:35 AM
3

Erm because assuming they are female that procedure isn’t possible on them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 10:55 AM
4

So their fathers abandoned them too, this is a multi generational issue that is going to take a combined effort from a multitude of services to help tackle
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 10:30 AM
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Treatment as in help with whatever mental health issue is going on (wether that’s a mood disorder or addiction), and also the same for the man involved. Ideally also introduce birth control (of appropriate for that patient) and offer a vasectomy for the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 10:29 AM
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You do realise every homeless child you mentioned has a father right? But it cant be their fault because they are blameless angels. It’s clearly the very vulnerable and unstable woman that is solely to blame (not the people who likely raped her, not the healthcare system that allowed her to not get treatment). Also do you think men don’t have mental health issues? There are more homeless men then women (most have serious mental health issues and addiction), most violent crime is committed by men…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 10:21 AM
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Not a specific type of attractive woman, which seems to be his type
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:42 AM
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She’s clearly the normal type of girl you go on dates with, I feel you probably get her vibe far more then I ever will
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:20 AM
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Why would they? Sounds like he dates (buys) attractive people. They bring the looks, he brings the money. Unless he is a model himself that’s a fair trade. If he wants someone who’s gonna pay he could go for normal women, there are plenty of wealthy business women who would be as wealthy as him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:33 PM
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Sounds like his ‘selling point’ is his wealth if the women he is attracting are all like this, and it sounds like he KNOWS this
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:31 PM
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This isn’t common at all. The majority of adults work, and most jobs are underpaid. They have to buy their food, pay their bills and rent. They KNOW how much stuff costs. You are talking about people who are either born rich or are sugar babies, that’s like 0.01% of the population. Maybe this is selection bias of the type of girls you associate yourself with? (Also damnn you spend a lot. I got out twice in the evening and often at least once in the day EVERY weekend, and I don’t spend anywhere n…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:26 PM
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Because she’s nervous and you don’t turn her on? And tbf im assuming any teen being groomed and manipulated by an old man likely has a lot of mental health issues going on - which will make her feel ‘tight’ because she dry from the anxiety and psychiatric meds
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 08:24 PM
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Age gaps don’t matter IF: - you are just looking for sex AND - there is no power imbalance (and this includes using the naivety of someone’s with decades less world experience to your advantage, something I see happen ALOT and seems to be one of the main drivers for older men trying to be in relationships with younger women) Teens and young 20’s with big age gaps is predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 08:15 PM
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I’m confused why you find it confusing that there are two people in a relationship and that they should work well together before having a baby? At the very start the wife has to be at home because she is the one feeding and is recovering. But afterwards you have to work it out between you (although you would hope this was done prior to the birth). But after that it’s fair game. You can both be unemployed if you want, welfare exists, I mean it’s shit but you can do that. Nobody is stopping you. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 06:45 PM
1

So I’m from a different country, so the ‘system’ is different, although the culture compared to the USA is very similar, and we still have the same issue with regards to women being more likely to take the majority custody. However this is because women are the primary care givers, they were before the split so it makes complete sense they remain so after the split. If men want to be the primary care giver it shouldn’t take a divorce for that to happen. Do it from day 1, don’t kick up a fuss it’…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 11:37 AM
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I think everyone’s cards should be on the table, and everyone should have consequences, and that ultimately I think children’s rights should be more important then both the adults involved. It’s not a ‘double standard’ because in this topic there is no direct comparison. There is no male comparison to banning abortion or forcing someone to have an abortion- because it’s controlling someone else’s body. Spitballing ideas I guess there could be rules like if a man forces a woman to get an abortion…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 09:20 PM
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Yeah, he can end the relationship if he’s not happy with how it’s set up. I mean it doesn’t work like that anyway, it’s not worked out has hard numbers. It’s more the theory of you would have supported them and they made their life choices based on that, in doing so supporting you to earn more/save more/Invest more. Alimony and child support are very rarely worth a lot, unless the people involved were extremely wealthy and it was a VERY one sided divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 09:17 PM
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There IS NO WAY TO MAKE IT EQUAL. It can’t be equal. So don’t focus on it being such because it’s quite literally impossible. So what we have to focus on is making it as fair as possible for everyone involved (including the unborn fetus/possible child). As well as consider the wider society impacts of policies and laws. Taking absolutely all consequences away from men - leaves children in poverty - removes quite literally the last incentive men have to take any responsibility over their sperm (w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 09:09 PM
1

Single mothers mean the MOTHER stayed around, aka it’s the FATHER who abandoned their child. Do men have no autonomy in your universe? Do they not leave women? A mother living separate from the father isn’t a single mother! You can co parent from a different address. The child still has two parents raising them. A child isnt a ‘reward’, if it was women wouldnt take birth control with all its shitty side effects and risks. They also aren’t getting ‘paid’, the money is FOR THE CHILD because childr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:49 PM
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Men don’t get those choices, because there aren’t equivalents. The answer to that isn’t to remove absolute all consequences for them. Single mothers are created by men abandoning their children. A woman who is co-parenting with the child’s father is NOT a single mother, the couple don’t have to be together to raise a child. ‘Most single mothers actually decided to leave’, that’s not how the law works and also not how life works. A relationship breakdown doesn’t mean you leave your child’s life. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:18 PM
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My personal view is that the main two priorities have been: - money (it always is). Children already cost the tax payer a lot of money (healthcare, education, welfare). If the tax payer then had to fork out more money for all the single parent households it would be serious money and a knock to the budget. - children. Child welfare and rights are why things like child support exist in the first place, and welfare and all the other stuff publicly funded for children I can understand why people fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 02:51 PM
1

I would argue these things have been considered and that’s why we are sat at the current law situation. There is no good solution, it’s the best of all the bad ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 02:05 PM
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1) completely agree, abortion is a basic healthcare right and is VERY important for the welfare of children and women (as well as wider society). 2) I’m not sure how this would happen on a practical level. If we can’t prove things like rape, even with forensic evidence, I’m not sure how we are gonna prove things like paternity fraud. It would be interesting which specific scenarios you feel could be written into law. 3) the issue with this is it provides a ‘get out of jail’ card for men to have …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:40 PM
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Paternity fraud is of course an issue. It’s just not very common AND DNA testing is becoming more and more accessible. But they DONT get to opt out of pregnancy, medical interventions, physical and mental health risk like men do. Women have consequences regardless. You can’t complain about paternity fraud and in the same list say it’s women who need to be picky about who they have sex with. If you are worried about paternity fraud take better care of your sperm. Also at the end of the day this ‘…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:35 PM
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I’m not saying there aren’t positives. It’s a decision made by the COUPLE that she will sacrifice that earning potential for whatever reason (usually to save childcare money, or so the other partner can focus more on career progress), and in return she will be supported by her partner. It’s a relationship contract that you make that decision for the betterment of the overall relationship. So if that relationship then breaks down the relationship agreement of ‘I take care of the home, you support…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:27 PM
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Ah yes because pregnancy and abortion have no consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:15 PM
2

It’s clear the case you are referring too is HIGHLY controversial and literally nobody agrees with it. It’s also certainly not 99.999% of child support cases. Pedophilia and rape being drastically under prosecuted is a completely separate and valid discussion. But a huge problem. Child support is about supporting the child, men make it about them. But if it’s not taken it’s child who suffer
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:14 PM
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The last decision in a line of bad decisions shouldn’t be the only one that matters, especially when the ‘last decision’ you are referring to is so complicated ethically that some states are making it illegal, and some people will literally loose their entire families/communities over it. That’s a HUGE burden to place on one person, when two were involved up until the very last step. Also there is no ‘reward’ to an unwanted pregnancy. 1) you get an abortion- this is an medical intervention that …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 11:58 AM
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The issue is this law isn’t about punishing men. It’s about the fact that a child’s rights should trump any adults involved. Children shouldn’t be growing up without just because their parents are irresponsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 11:50 AM
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The issue is there is not currently a fair way to do it. Both have consequences is currently the situation. Although the consequences are different. There is not way to stop women having consequences. Quite literally no way. Hence if we remove consequences from men it will be unequal. Really difficult topic because there is no way to make it fair. Hopefully with progression in male birth control we will be able to bring it closer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 11:48 AM
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Depends on the specific situation (for example if you divorce years in, after a SAHM has supported you through your career progression but in turn sacrificed their own then that needs to be considered. Or if one parent earns dramatically more then the other, and it will cause true instability in the child’s life, then it’s best for the child to consider child support even if that’s ‘unfair’ for the adults involved) but in most cases it should. However it’s EXTREMELY rare to see equal custody, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 11:45 AM
6

How he presented over message and in person were two completely different people
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:26 AM
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Of course. They have always wanted to invade peoples private lives (they would police freedom of thought if they could), increase child abuse/neglect/poverty and put a strain on public resources (welfare, education system, healthcare etc) to keep the general population dumb, in debt and compliant.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 10:08 PM
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How did you just make a post about womens basic rights and access to healthcare being taken away about a man’s penis. And it’s not about wanting ‘free shit’ to hold over men, it’s about wanting the law to protect the right to privacy with your doctor and reproductive rights. When was the last time your bodily autonomy rights were taken away in law?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 09:58 PM
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Whist increasing the number of unwanted children in homes that can’t support them or don’t want them. Child abuse, neglect and poverty is so worth it if it means less adults are having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 09:54 PM
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He stayed very calm externally throughout but you could see it was annoying him, was trying to charm his way to get me to go back to his but is clearly in so deep that he didn’t know what was and wasn’t acceptable. I genuinely believe he didn’t realise what he was saying was rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 09:40 PM
11

Very charming at first, obviously used all the ‘tricks’ in the book to get me on the date. Then started to use terminology throughout the date and made some rather rude remarks. Then wouldn’t allow me to pay for the drinks, even though I always go 50/50, and then proceeded to try and get me to go back to his.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 09:36 PM
14

This is true. I had my first date the other day with someone who I could tell for certain bought into this ideology. It was genuinely quite scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 09:20 PM
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Harder to get birth control or abortions, if not downright illegal to get abortions in certain states. Pregnancy and birth can kill you at worst. At best you’ve got minimum 18 years of your life taken from you (financially, socially, your job, your hobbies) and your body/mental health only has minor changes. Is it difficult to work out why women are having less sex? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 08:56 PM
2

Tbh the energy can be counteracted by the fact that you can afford to work a lot less hours (or even completely give up work) because yourself and your partner already have your home, well paying jobs in companies you have a good relationship with. I’d rather have kids at 35 and work 2 days a week, then have them at 22 but have to work a 50 hour work on top of childcare. And familial support has nothing to do with age, looking at my family those that had kids >35yrs old actually had more support…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 06:05 PM
1

If they are only looking for sex then yes I would?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 01:54 PM
1

No, if you were gonna go anyway and ‘if it happens it happens’ that’s fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 04:52 PM
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Haha, it’s not an objective as that. I’m not sure where you are from but where I’m from there are places you go to pick up people (more sex focused clubs) and there are more standards bars where people go to just have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 04:16 PM
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Oh they weren’t trying to date me, they were trying to fuck me +/- offer drugs to make that even easier. Wanting to fuck a vagina isn’t the same as recognising a person and pursuing them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 03:50 PM
2

If it’s a sex club it’s okay yeah, it’s it’s a normal club where even a 10 is gonna struggle (because contrary to popular belief most women don’t go to clubs to get laid) then it’s weird
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 03:48 PM
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Because men generally aren’t very respectful about it. If you decline they often get rude or even aggressive, I’ve been spiked once myself (one friend has been spiked 3 times), it’s difficult to enjoy yourself when someone is staring at you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:41 PM
2

Because if you are having to go out of your way to go somewhere you don’t usually go to meet women it’s probably not the sort of women you are compatible with long term, so you are probably looking for sex. If so it’s insane amounts of effort just for the slim possibility of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:28 PM
1

It’s for practical reasons tbh. Share lipgloss/lip liner, spray, often need help with items of clothing, period products, need help to put up hair, need to have a quick catch up on the nights plans and the club is too loud
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:52 PM
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I’m sure they do, it’s just not something I’ve experienced quite literally ever. Where as I would say I could sit in a bar or club and watch loads of lone men there for that reason only. You don’t really have girls go out alone to pick up men. Even just at the bar last night, I was up enjoying myself singing and dancing with friends. And there is always a bunch of men working the room or just sat on chairs staring, not even smiling, clearly not there to enjoy themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:49 PM
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Looks are important, but to the individual, not some objective good vs bad looking. Of the the top 50% of men (of which we can usually agree), how women rank them within that top 50% is actually really different. The men I swipe right on for example my friends are always like ‘no, why’ and I have the same reactions to the ones they do. Genuinely only since playing with dating apps with my friends present have I realised how varied types are. I think both men and women have warped beauty standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:44 PM
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Yeah i do respect that act of honesty, because then I can make an informed decision to not sleep with the guy. You can respect an act but not a person. Same way there will be women who will openly say they want sex, no strings attached because of x/y/z Honesty is something I respect because it allows everyone involved to make informed decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:40 PM
2

Why? Some people are just horny but don’t want a relationship? Why is that self destructive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:39 PM
1

If someone just wants sex then that’s okay, there will be women that just want that, as long as everyone is being honest it’s perfectly okay
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:34 PM
1

The maths just doesn’t math. Men don’t want to be in relationships with sluts, this sub always goes on about it. But they want the top 5% of women to give 100% of men a chance. How does that maths work? And why do mediocre and down right weird men even entertain the idea that the top women should acknowledge their existence. You don’t see women doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:21 PM
2

This post just admits that women shouldn’t go for average guys because they are second choice pity fucks, whilst they are lusting after other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:19 PM
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Yes. As a young woman in the dating market yes. Of the men I meet about 50% openly admit they don’t want a relationship, they just want sex (and I highly respect the honesty). Then of the ones that say they want a relationship a large number seem to use that as a manipulative way to get women. The actual number that say they want a relationship and MEAN it is really low
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:16 PM
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I didn’t particularly follow this. But if THIS post is to be believed all the average men I’ve been with are only with me for some sort of pity sex. I’d rather get pity sex from a hot guy then pity sex from a non hot guy. Guess I should stop dating normal men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:15 PM
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So women are either really attractive (and therefore people on here seem to believe they should sleep with literally every man as payment for this?)… or you are 400lbs with a LD. How about just go for a normal girl, with shared interests and at a similar place in life? Someone you enjoy the company of and can have a laugh with? If you are an average person but only acknowledge the top girls exist and seem to think you are entitled to them you will live life angry and bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:13 PM
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I’ve ‘pursed’ just as much as men have pursued me. I’m not a top 10% kinda woman, I don’t have men falling over themselves to date me haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 10:09 AM
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It would bother me tbh, intent makes a big difference. Particularly when meeting someone in person. When you go out with the sole intent to ‘pull’ you alter who you are beyond recognition and in my experience lie/manipulate to get that. When it’s the dual having fun with your friends and being open to it then you actual like yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 09:27 AM
0

It depends on the extent. If it’s PART of the reason yours friends and yourself go to a venue, it’s not creepy. Even women do this. If it’s the only reason you are going out, especially if you are doing it alone, then it’s weird (and that point just get a hook up based app, don’t waste a night)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:56 AM
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Why no condom. And I agree about the demographic, the 3 i know in my personal life fit that demographic perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 03:17 PM
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That is trapped. If someone gets you pregnant knowing for whatever you can’t abort that’s trapping, in fact in my country messing with condoms is actually considered sexual assault because of how serious it is. Just because an abortion would be easy for you, doesn’t mean it is for everyone. Abortions have consequences- biological (it has side effects and risks), social (many cultures actively shun people who have them), psychological (for many people it can have either short term or even long te…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 01:59 PM
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You can poke holes in condoms. A lot of people find out they are pregnant quite late or don’t feel comfortable with abortions. ‘Just go and abort it’ isn’t as simple as that for a lot of people. In my job I’ve met what I would guess were female victims of baby trapping (cultures were abortions are taboo or where they were coerced/guilted into keeping the baby/babies that they weren’t trying for).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 01:26 PM
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It’s absolute insanity. Currently all 3 of my friends this happened to are now in awful, dysfunctional relationships. One even now has two ‘accident’ kids because apparently one accident wasn’t enough to get educated on birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 12:55 PM
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Every single person I’ve met IRL who said they were baby trapped were 1) male 2) took absolutely no responsibility for their contraception 3) were not actually trying to avoid a child through their actions, just said they were verbally and then acted surprised when an ‘accident’ happened (3 that I personally know of I actually told them it would happen, the GF’s were either not on BC or took it incorrectly… which I informed them of. They chose to keep having unprotected sex)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 12:27 PM
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Woman here. Yeah needs to be fast otherwise I wonder what they are hiding/does this reflect that they aren’t a get up and go sorta person? Also I will overthink and get nervous if we wait too long
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 09:02 AM
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Because everytime I’ve done that I’ve been really hurt, it’s not worth the pain. I fall for them, they say and do the right things. But it’s BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 08:53 AM
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The consequences are completely different. Most women who would walk away from their baby will have significant social consequences- the fall out would be massive. They would likely be shamed by literally everyone who knows them and it’s not like a man that can just pretend they don’t have a child. Work would know, their friends and family. They don’t get to hide their actions. Everyone’s knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:44 PM
1

As mentioned above every study I’ve seen about this has a lot of bias during the study methods Maybe they don’t want to maintain the relationship. Maybe that’s the active choice they make Is it better to be in a bad relationship or end a bad relationship, I’d argue the later is better
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 01:49 PM
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Depends on the person. There are people who sleep around who have something wrong with them (attachment issues, unhealthy relationship with sex, scare of partners), and people who don’t (choose not to settle down but enjoy sex, just looking for the right person but having shit luck) There are people who don’t sleep around who have something wrong with them (creepy, unsociable, rude, extremely unattractive, unhygienic, religious nut, dangerous/offensive ideology), and people who don’t (just hasn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 01:49 PM
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I think it depends on the individual. We aren’t all the same hive mind. For example I have a low body count, I’m very monogamous and I’m not a fan of ONS (for myself). Therefore that’s what I look for in a partner. A more sexual liberal person with a high body count themselves is going to be a lot less likely to care
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 11:07 AM
1

I guess so. I just find it weird how many men have opened up to me about secrets nobody else in the group knows
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 08:47 PM
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People liking a picture on social media doesn’t make them your friend, me and Rhianna aren’t besties :’)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 08:17 PM
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That’s not actual friends or a social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:16 PM
2

Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:16 PM
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In my experience significantly less friends then men but the depth of the relationships they do have is more. Boys have more options for making big groups of friends- sports, gaming etc. but it’s more superficial. Girls are the opposite. Less opportunity but when they do make friends they often have better communication and a deeper relationship The only way I got a decent amount of friends is by joining a male friendship group
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:14 PM
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That’s not biphobic? That’s a sexual preference. The same way it’s not sexist to only be attracted to one gender rather then everyone be bi :’)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 09:42 AM
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Most women aren’t necessarily ‘biphobic’ they just recognise that they won’t meet the needs of a bisexual man
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 09:25 AM
5

I mean it is different… if my man is into being dominated by men in bed then I’m not going to be able to do a lot for them f
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 09:24 AM
2

I mean it is. I would worry that if my man enjoys being sexually dominated by men then my submission female sexuality isn’t gonna do a damn thing!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 09:23 AM
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Because no sex can be due to hundreds of reasons, certainly not just disliking a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:09 PM
1

That isn’t what you claimed in your comment, you’ve changed the statement. You said no sex = she doesn’t like you (certainly not true) Then you said if you are an asshole = no sex (usually true, but there are exceptions) Completely different statements
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:45 PM
3

This isn’t true. I’ve had no libido whilst still completely in love with my partner
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:39 PM
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It’s funny how all the women in the comments agree with this :’) and again, I agree too
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:36 PM
1

Someone paying for everything is the same as welfare or being a child. It’s just not something adults do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 10:13 PM
0

Escorts can be paid to go on dates, they arent just paid for sex. Why are you proud to ‘never pull out your wallet’. I wouldn’t be proud if I was living on welfare, why is this any different? I RESPECT my partner, I respect the time he puts into earning his money as he respects mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 09:29 PM
0

I really wouldn’t say that’s the case? Most people don’t know how other view them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:12 AM
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Who gave you the idea women don’t care about n count? They certainly do. We just care more about what the n count is made up of. (For example I prefer a man who has a low n count but that includes long term relationships rather then a man who’s just had one night stands/flings/situationships)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 09:01 PM
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He could buy a wife, women are harder to buy when they can just get a job to feed themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:36 PM
5

Be the change you want to see. Women get true compliments from other women (NOT MEN). Men don’t seem to do this? Make sure you compliment your friends, and in return that energy may come back to you. And self esteem is something you build yourself through hard work- new hair/outfits/regular gym and dieting etc. Furthermore do not stay with partners who don’t make you feel desired. I certainly compliment my partner more then he does me. I can’t help it, he’s gorgeous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:33 PM
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That just shows how disadvantaged women are. The second a profession becomes majority women the pay goes down. Teachers, nurses and doctors are good examples of this. They used to be well respected jobs with good pay and benefits. Now they are majority women and suddenly they are lowly paid, no longer respected. Also it’s clear you are American but realistically college is not a marker of success. We shouldn’t be saying men are not doing well because they aren’t going to college. Trades these da…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:30 PM
2

Why do you feel sorry for us? I want to pay for dates. I’m not an escort :’)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:26 PM
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Nope. I’m a woman in the uk, among the middle classes we usually go 50/50. The only women I meet who expect the men to pay tend to be lower class/less educated
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 06:17 PM
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This is my attitude too- although I quite often insist on paying 50/50 for the first date even if I want to see them again
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 06:15 PM
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I’m not from the USA, and yes I’m alright. We don’t have conscription in my country.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 04:56 PM
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That’s out of living memory… that’s a completely different set of men then those currently alive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 04:44 PM
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I think EVERYONE should fight for the interest to improve society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 04:43 PM
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Because women had to fight for it. It’s always been handed to men so when suddenly you don’t have a huge advantage you don’t know what to do. Men aren’t having anything removed, women are just coming up to meet men, and men are angry about it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 10:46 AM
0

Maybe it’s the job I do but none of that sounds that difficult. It happened to me in retail and was a breeze in comparison to my currently job. Realistically who cares if a customers is shitty, YOU choose to let them ruin your mood, I honestly just never gave a shit which helped. I certainly wouldn’t call it ‘suffering’
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 07:42 PM
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Ngl I’ve done retail and food service, and they have been my easiest jobs. People really overplay how bad they were and I certainly don’t think they are essential to have done.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 06:28 PM
1

It’s not about ‘deciding who you have sex with’. It’s about having the understanding to navigate relationships enough to be able to identify and put a stop to manipulative/coercive behaviour as well as having the confidence and know how to stand up for yourself. This is something that develops as we age and subsequently usually there is a HUGE difference in skills between an 18 year old and 30 year old (even between 18-23 a lot of people grow massively in these areas)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:45 PM
1

I’m not sure if you are aware of this but having an 18th birthday doesn’t suddenly provide 50 years of life experience. Growing up, maturity, understanding social dynamics, street smarts etc all require experience. The older you get the more opportunity you have to build life experience knowledge. An arbitrary legal cut off doesn’t suddenly mean you gain 30 years of knowledge overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:28 PM
1

Not true. My friends weren’t particularly hot. They were very very average looking girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 11:05 PM
1

It’s not ‘imaginary’. With age comes life experience and your ability to navigate the world (and others/relationships) improves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 07:10 PM
1

We aren’t talking about in general, we are talking about this specific scenario. And I honestly would put money on relationships between 18 and 30 year olds, compare to two 30 year olds having far more exploration and abuse. The same way ANY relationships with such a big power imbalance is going to run that risk (for example boss and employee, profesor and student)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 06:08 PM
2

Just because you haven’t lost value doesn’t mean you haven’t had something negative happen to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 06:06 PM
1

Exploitation isn’t taking VALUE from someone. You can exploit people for a range of things- money, sex, emotions, care etc. exploitation doesn’t mean value is lost in a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 05:34 PM
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This isn’t an argument born from the internet or internal misogyny. Ive seen the damage done first hand to multiple of my friends as a direct result of their older ‘boyfriends’ and that being their introduction into the world of relationship. I’ve also been an 18 year old girl. And they are (for the most part) naive, lack life experience, easily to manipulate. It’s why the type of men who go for them do it, because they know they can exploit that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 05:17 PM
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Because I have NEVER seen a 16-18 year old year old girl in a relationship with a significantly older man where there wasn’t abuse/coersion/exploitation happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:41 PM
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The alternative being forcing yourself on someone… I think it’s safe to say you being sexless is better then being a rapist
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:42 PM
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Being sexually objectified DURING sex is different to being sexually objectified 24 hours a day, 365 days a year in a ‘relationship’
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 03:32 PM
1

Exactly. This post isn’t about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 02:29 AM
1

Tbf if you are fit enough with enough gym/health knowledge to think you could actually help a partner loose weight then you won’t have any issues finding a partner and this isn’t a post about you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:22 PM
1

How do you KNOW?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:13 PM
1

Haha I am average
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:12 PM
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I think there is likely more going on then just height, unless they are at the extremes of height (I would want a man to be taller then me for example but I think I’ve only ever known 1 man shorter then me and he had a medical condition)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 02:43 PM
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Women have height filters, but most are actually rather flexible even if they don’t realise it. I’ve never known a woman to fall for a man- everything about him- and be like lol nope based on height Pictures also don’t show height. There wasn’t a height on the profile of the guy I’m now dating from a dating profile. But talking to him we clicked so we went on a date 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 10:36 AM
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You strongly misunderstand female attraction. I don’t find ANYONE sexually attractive from a photo, it’s why online dating was so confusing for me. Had to just go by the prompts and some objective attractive things I’d found in the past. In person however I can find the exact same people very attractive- it’s the way they carry themselves, the things they say, their smile. The way someone animates their body is what most women find physical attraction to be based on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 10:18 AM
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So there are two sides to this (in my experience) - men follow on social media those thirst trap sort of accounts with the type of women you described. Almost all recognise it’s fantasy and IRL those girls would get on their nerves. The 10/10 men I know that actually have a shot at those sort of women sometimes try to go for them in person (then moan they are high maintenance, everything is for the content online and that they are super expensive to maintain… no shit) - IRL most men are happily …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:29 AM
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As a man it may be better to have them young (after all your aren’t giving up your body, your identity, your independence etc). But all the women I know who had kids young deeply regret it and urge me to not make the same mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:43 PM
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I think you are confusing pregnancy in your 30’s with pregnancy in your 40’s. Women in their 30’s throughout history have had multiple children. That’s still very much a good time to have children and assuming they are otherwise healthy still low risk. Especially as people are becoming more aware of fitness, smoking and drinking levels are decreasing etc. Even within my own immediately family (uncles/aunts) there have been 4 healthy babies born to women over 40! A family friend had all 3 of her …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:40 PM
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I mean within educated circles it’s very common to have children anywhere in your 30’s without issue, so 30 would still give you 10 years!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:36 PM
2

Oh 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:41 PM
5

This is so individual dependent though, massively so! I think you are slightly over estimating this skill
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:51 PM
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My pupils dilate at literally everyone I stare at, especially if I’ve had something to drink, I’ve had multiple people make comments on it as it’s so obvious due to be having blue eyes, and I’ve managed to replicate it in the mirror. It’s not because I like them (I’m certainly not in love with myself haha). (Although for people I do like a lot it’s even more pronounced, but that’s incredibly subtle and you would have to really know me to be able to tell the difference. Aka you wouldn’t be able t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:34 PM
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This really isn’t difficult. If someone is drunk but clearly understands what it going on and gives consent, AND you haven’t pushed them to get drunk because you knew they wouldn’t have sex with you sober then that’s not rape. Sadly I see that second scenario broken ALOT and people claim they gave consent. If you know they won’t do it sober so you get them intoxicated until the point they change their mind it’s wrong. The clearly rape exists as- If you find someone who is so drunk they are confu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 10:26 AM
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You are blowing their minds..
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 10:22 PM
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I don’t know because that’s not the case, I’ve orgasmed regularly with every partner I’ve had
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:45 AM
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The orgasm gap isn’t because men are bad at pleasuring women, it’s because it’s harder for women to orgasm. Also orgasm isn’t the only way sexual activity is pleasurable. And this is supporting the fact you need to sleep with them before it becomes serious, incase they are awful in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:19 AM
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Most men are bad at pleasuring women? Speak for your own experience. I’ve had a very good track record so far
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:14 AM
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You are going to piss of your family introducing them to sexually incompatible people that you then break up with when you are completely incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 02:34 PM
1

This doesn’t solve the problem that I want sex though…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 02:31 PM
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I would say the opposite is true, women are very open about what they want in sex and it’s men who aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 05:34 PM
1

I’m afraid you aren’t making yourself clear at all
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 02:18 AM
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My comment hasn’t been edited at all? And I’m confused by why I would have. The original post had no standards mentioned other then the existence of them, it was OP who then made up some obscenely high standards of which maybe the 0.01% might hold
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:40 PM
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That’s not what they communicated at all. That’s what this clearly very warped individual decided to interpret from what they said, despite absolutely no reference at all to any of the ‘standards’ he mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:40 PM
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I mean by definition that is a set of standards
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:19 PM
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24F, straight, live in a major city. N count 3. Don’t think it’s particularly high, it’s very average for my social circle of women. On the low end for my social circle of men. Not really fussed if it was higher, wouldn’t want it to be lower. Thoroughly enjoying man number 3. I think I’d think more if it was above 10 or 15, but wouldn’t be an automatic no. I would just require some context I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:45 PM
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Even within 3 minutes of googling studies start to come up regarding the fact it’s women that do the organisation side of relationships. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1525/si.2002.25.3.323 https://compass.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1751-9020.2007.00076.x#accessDenialLayout Also most sites I’ve found suggest men are also more likely to cheat on a marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:52 PM
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It’s not that, I know some work goes into it. It’s the amount of time they are seem to have to wonder off from doing the work for breaks. They fit in lunch breaks, coffee breaks, gym breaks, half the convos you can hear are them gossiping with colleagues. There is no urgency to what they do. There is no arriving early to prepare or leaving late (except maybe 10 minutes). I know my job is at the more extreme end of stress (like it’s accepted you will be crying weekly) but it really did shift my p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:48 PM
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I think you’ve misread my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:43 AM
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Although women officially do the dirty work that doesn’t mean they are the ones that kill the relationships, just means they are the ones that do all the paperwork and organisation in the home. I think this reflects more that women run households, rather then end relationships (Think about who rights the shopping list and buys it, who books the doctors/dentist appointments)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:47 AM
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Tbf seeing people work remotely regardless of gender (I saw my mum, partner and a few friends) made me realise how easy some peoples days were. I certainly walked away with a lot less sympathy when they have a ‘hard day’ and expect more of them around the house after their day at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:38 AM
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I think sometimes it’s down to choice, maybe subconsciously, even if they don’t admit that themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:32 AM
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23F. Currently seeing someone myself. Have had 1 precious LTR and one hook up. Generally most my friends are in LTR’s and have a similar body count. Friends that are single (both male and female) AND don’t want to be usually have very identifiable reasons for being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:27 AM
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You aren’t a problem as such, if you are happy with being single. It would be a problem if you were acting out because of your lack of options, which I assume you aren’t so it’s fine
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:25 AM
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Neither are my type at all 🤷‍♀️ I’d rather not have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:42 AM
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That’s a shame. I’ve never been with someone I didn’t find attractive (that’s not to say they were conventionally attractive). I wouldn’t want someone to be with me who didn’t find me attractive either tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:08 PM
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Wasn’t official with one, one I broke up with after a long term relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:04 PM
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I’m not from the USA so the hours are better, but still more then an average worker. Plus it’s the finishing late when you promised you would meet at a certain time, and the constant physical and emotional burnout. It’s a lot to put on a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:31 PM
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I’m currently with the first man who has a similar income, prior to that they had been minimum wage workers
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:28 PM
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Doctor… arguably worse for a relationship 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:15 PM
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Fair enough, don’t blame you tbh. If you’ve found something that works for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:14 PM
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1) My job - Although technically I’ve never ‘lost’ a man so far, but it certainly makes the initial meeting and then the relationship more difficult. I make that clear from the start though, so they can jump ship early on 2) my own insecurities- I need a lot of reassurance which can be a lot for some people. 3) im just very average looking, I’m not someone you fight the above two reasons for. The men that have fair enough, I don’t get why they do. (I will probably keep editing to add things as I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:05 PM
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I’m not really fussed either way tbh. I can see the pros and cons, seem about even.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:14 PM
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You are really overestimating both the amount of choice and the quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:55 PM
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Generally in social interactions a conversation is a two way street both in words and body language. Social interaction is about reading those signals. That’s the whole of human interaction IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:24 PM
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I have a good job with good career prospects (means nothing as a woman), I’m overweight as a woman but as a man with my gym schedule I’d probably actually have a decent build, generally the men in my family have decent genetics (tall, good hair etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:21 PM
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If the signals are there 100%, if not depends how much you want a hookup/relationship I guess 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:19 PM
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Well your standards are lower then most men I’ve met :’)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:18 PM
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Maybe worried he wasn’t reciprocating (she was giving a lot body language wise and he wasn’t)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:13 PM
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Better to try and fail then not try at all. Who is giving you this terrible advice. It was the perfect setting to ask, she showed VERY clear interest (clear enough all 5 male mates sat with me had also noticed the exchange).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:43 PM
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And woman are told from about 11 to make sure they alter everything about their appearance and they will have to do this for the rest of their lives 🤷‍♀️ I’m saying it works both ways. And I don’t think either is easier as a general rule (although being a man would be easier for me).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:41 PM
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If all the yatchs have a shit load of holes in then yeah, it’s difficult to choose, and quite often better to choose none :’)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:11 PM
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I think men really under estimate what they look for. The amount of women my male friends with just not even consider. They ‘pie’ girls all the time, they just don’t recognise it because they don’t SEE them. If they aren’t beautiful they are invisible. Literally had this last night at the pub. A male friend was moaning he was single. A girl in the smoking area ended up chatting him up, she was average (he is average), she literally pulled up a chair and had a second cig to have an excuse to carr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:10 PM
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The one time I had casual sex I did. But generally casual sex is shit for women so it’s not something I particularly partake in unless it’s ‘casual but exclusive’ so at least you can learn what each other likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 04:04 PM
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F,20’s. Don’t have children but I hope I’d raise them the same way my parents raised me. That career and stability come first, and that they will support and be happy with anyone who treats be kindly. Also the general safety stuff around dating + being open about sex (and contraception) from a young age. Also because my parents were very chilled out about everything I never felt the need to rebel, and consequently have had a very happy dating and relationships history so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:37 PM
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Depends what you define as a dad bod. What I see dad bod as is a bigger guy, who is healthy but not like a gym bro, maybe gym 2-3 times a week. It’s just a higher fat percentage then someone who is on a cut or lives for the gym. I certainly prefer a dad bod. That’s not to say I’m not attracted to leaner men, but I prefer a dad bod. Personally never liked thin men though. It probably depends on individual preference
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:36 PM
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There are equivalent sexual assault charges. It’s because rape is defined by penetration with a penis. So a man can be raped, but a woman can’t rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:29 AM
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If it’s anything like the male stats probably none (although I’m not sure how it works, as in my country women can’t rape by law)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 05:59 PM
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In a democracy we have politician to make decisions. Because if we had to vote on every single dollar of tax money that was spent it would be a 12 hour job, 365 days a year, and the country would come to a hault :’) Unless it’s just healthcare you want to vote on, and the rest of the money doesn’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 04:01 PM
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I don’t vote on people access to other aspects of healthcare so I don’t see why I’d get a vote on this too. I get voting on socialised healthcare as a whole. But we don’t vote on individual specific scenarios. I don’t get to vote if smokers should have access to ventilators/NIV if needed, I don’t get to vote if ex alcoholics get access to liver transplants, I don’t get to vote if we should screen for fetal abnormalities etc (and the hundred of other ethically complicated Medical decisions that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:54 PM
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Laws existing (most of which are quite old) doesn’t make it controversial in the modern day. Standard as in my country it’s part of healthcare that everyone has access too, as part of the government healthcare system, and it carried out like any other procedure. It’s not some massive debate topic. It’s just a thing that happens. And it’s not controversial within the medical community. A few critics out of millions does not make a topic controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:40 PM
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It’s not controversial in the rest of the developed world. It’s a standard part of medical practice for a variety of reasons. Even within the medical community it is not controversial. Its controversial for religious people. Religion and medicine should not mix.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:27 PM
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Men have always had to be impressive- it just used to be they had to impress the family/community elder etc (who whoever had ownership or control of who the girl married).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:06 PM
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Prior to the 1970’s marital rape was legal in EVERY state in the USA, it also took until the 70’s for women to be able to get credit cards for the first time (prior to this their husband had to sign off on it), the ‘head and masters’ laws in the USA regarding property were only outlaws in all states in 1979. In the USA TODAY abortion is now being made illegal again in multiple states. And it’s important to note that although laws to protect women may have existed for a few decades there are quit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:00 PM
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Speak only for your own specific society/class/economic and education group that you live in. Do not speak for others, because that certainly isn’t true for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:47 AM
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‘Just look pretty’ ah yes I shall request that to the genetics gods, start my 13 hour day (without travel) an hour earlier to do my makeup/hair etc, fuck it two hours earlier to add in gym as well! Plus need to fit in regular waxing, eyebrows/lashes, hair etc. Just turn up and look pretty requires both luck and a lot of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:52 AM
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Pms is not a myth just because you don’t experiencing it. A day of depression is my biggest sign I’m about to have my period. And as someone who has been clinically depressed and medicated in the past I genuinely mean it’s as bad as actual depression. Again YOUR experience. Some people become pregnant and want to die. Some people become pregnant and their organs fail. So I mean each to their own. I’m a doctor and got to do a rotation through OBGYN when training- as much as to the public they pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:49 AM
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If I could have chosen I 100% would have chosen to be a man. Like other comments have said, the small positives to being a woman just don’t outweigh the vast ones men have
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:44 AM
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Of course men scam women for sex, more then Women scam men for free stuff. You just admitted it by saying men wouldn’t get laid for free if they didn’t lie. Most of the time it’s men that insist on paying! ‘At least don’t send him home empty handed’. I repeat, if you want to buy affection or sexual acts hire a prostitute. It’s so entitled to expect women to be things you can buy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 03:56 AM
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‘Usually get nothing in return’… there is your issue. You don’t want a girl, you want a prostitute. You paying isn’t transactional. She owes you nothing. You CHOOSE to pay. And the scamming works both ways. Men do it FAR more then women. Lying and manipulating to get sex is far more common then a women actively trying to get free stuff from a man. Most time it’s the man that insists on paying
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 03:04 AM
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Did I insult anyone in what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 08:34 AM
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What and the terms ‘slut’ and ‘prude’ aren’t insults?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 08:25 AM
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WHY people do things isn’t usually trend based, it’s usually very individualistic
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:15 AM
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Reading your replies it seems like you are just throwing away any real answers from women, and clutching on to the very few posts that confirm your current beliefs. Your thinking is very black and white. You seem to think all men, and all women, are some hive mind entity. Some people will answer your question by saying I only want to be single, so I don’t date. Some will say I am content with being single but date because there is always the possibility that a good partner might come along. Some…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:12 AM
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Idk, just is. Women are just better at it I guess, more in sync
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:18 AM
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I’ve kissed (counting anything more then a peck) maybe 15 girls (plus a few of those repeatedly). Significantly more then I’ve kissed men. I’m a straight women, but enjoy a good make out session with a woman It’s never gone further then some light body touching and making out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:03 AM
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A lot of newborn adoptions are private adoptions
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 08:08 PM
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I was discussing adoption from pregnancy, as that’s the closest equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:48 PM
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The new wave of trad wives is a new movement. Humanity worked like this for most of history because women literally had no choice. In the USA for example you couldn’t even own property or a credit card until the last few generations as a woman. Without a husband you had no place in society- no money, no food, no home. Even things like physically hurting your wife and marital rape were completely legal for most of human history, up until again the last few generations. So I really don’t think we …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:45 PM
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I’m saying in my experience it dramatically varies, and that men can bond just as much, if not more, then their partners. I’ve also seen parents using a surrogate or going the adoption route bond during the pregnancy too. It’s a very individual thing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:28 PM
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Of course they do, we all wonder where we come from, that doesn’t mean they didn’t bond with their adoptive parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:24 PM
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That’s not brainwashing. It’s a reality. Do you really think if men had to go through pregnancy and birth our species would still exist :’) For a lot of women pregnancy, birth and staying at home to raise kids is awful. It is better to go to work. Ever met a mum coming back after maternity leave? They can’t wait to go back to work! Get a break from it all. I’ve had a few friends be sucked into this new movement to be a ‘trad’ wife, they are all now on anti depressants and constantly cry about ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:23 PM
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I am not denying a biological reality. I’m a doctor. I have the immense privilege of being able to know what actually goes on behind closed doors, without the immense social pressure that is put on women to say they love their children and have bonded with them because it’s unnatural not to. So many women are told these lies about this immediate bond and nobody ever corrects them. It’s not until you find anonymous sources or in my case at work where woman after woman expresses how she didn’t fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:17 PM
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‘Do it naturally’ implies he is going to cheat with the surrogate rather then use IVF or embryonic transfer
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 01:58 PM
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Bonding happens for everyone involved before delivery, regardless of if they carry the baby or not. Speak to adoptive parents, parents with a surrogate etc. And as I said, many women don’t bond with their children when they carry them, and some actually resent them for the suffering they go through. Everyone is different
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 01:49 PM
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So because men don’t carry their children then they don’t bond with them? What is this insanity There are also many women who have the exact opposite experience. They hate pregnancy and are so unwell, or have such a traumatic birth (and I don’t use trauma lightly, I’ve seen so many women have PTSD from it) that they don’t EVER bond with their child. So if that’s your argument going ‘natural’ doesn’t guarantee a ‘bond’
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 01:32 PM
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So because you wife doesn’t feel she can handle one of the most painful experiences people go through, you should get to cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 01:30 PM
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But men expecting their partners to go through it for free (at the threat of heartbreak) so they can have children isn’t exploitative? At least a surrogate gets paid
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 01:29 PM
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I would hope he gets a little jealous as an expression of wanting me. But not to the extent of acting on it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:50 AM
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Low. Most people want to be in a relationship or in love
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:48 AM
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But they want to fuck more then one woman in their lifetime… the maths isn’t mathing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:47 AM
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I’m not sure why you think I haven’t seen my friends without makeup or hungover as shit looking their worst after a night out or camping etc. I’ve seen almost all of my female friends naked, and tbf I’ve seen a few of the male ones too. I’m European so it’s a bit more chilled out here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:06 AM
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Most people approach to have sex, I’ve never been asked out when someone’s approached me, I’ve been asked to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:08 PM
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Imagine if a woman on here based her body count on what she actually enjoyed :’) Bro. It counts. Also if you don’t like casual sex then don’t have it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:02 PM
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As someone who regularly goes to clubs and bars (at least once a week)- Of course we only go to these places with mixed sex groups, 1/4 of the times I’ve been out in small only girls groups someone’s ended up spiked! Having other men around not only detours that behaviour, but if it does happen there is a safteynet in place. I know I’m getting home safely so can’t actually enjoy my night Also why would I want to be asked out in a club when I’m the 12th choice from this club night alone that he h…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:40 PM
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Approached is someone literally approaching you to flirt, asked out is someone asking to meet up outside the setting they approached you in
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:31 PM
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Approached more then once every 6 months, asked out ever
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 10:09 AM
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It’s not an insult, it’s genuine advice. Go stand outside on a busy street and actually take time to look at couples who walk past.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:25 PM
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It’s a saying to reflect ‘go outside’. Which is sadly what a lot of people need to do. Just look around your local town, see people outside of you immediate social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:02 PM
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Depends on the rest of his qualities? Is he kind? Is he thoughtful? Is he a good lover? Is he funny/do you have the same sense of humour? What are his interests (likely there will be a girl out there into the same things)? Will he let the girl go on hikes with him (any bucket list hikes he would like company for?)? He might be a good intellectual match that challenges you in a fun way. Is he faithful and loyal?does he express his emotions (makes a big difference both in and out of the bedroom). …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:56 PM
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I’m sure my own experience as well as my friends have less reason to lie then to the men they are seeing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:44 PM
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I’m a woman, in a very sexually open friendship group
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:06 PM
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Depends on the woman, some women are loud and move a lot, and some don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:59 AM
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80% mental- falling for someone, teasing leading up to it (a small touch here or there, a compliment, THE look). Feeling safe, feeling comfortable, feeling desired, feeling you won’t be judged. 20% physical - I love a man with a beard and some smiles literally melt me. Someone that smiles with their eyes. And it’s the way they look at you. Then lots of foreplay- hair touching, a massage usually makes sex feel amazing (probably something to do with being more relaxed).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:55 AM
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I mean dating down in every way, not just appearance. And there are objective markers of appearance you can rely on- weight, grooming, skin etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:46 AM
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Touch the grass my friend, it’s just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:57 AM
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They do, I know plenty who do. The first two men I dated were a bit bigger then chubby. I’m have chubby guy friends with girlfriends. Just go outside, big men arent just alone forever
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:40 AM
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I’m not American which is probably why
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:39 AM
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I mean punching in every way. They are better looking for a start. They all earn more then their partners, and have better prospects in their careers then their partner. They often seem to do most the housework/organisation for the relationship on top. Of my 3 best friends all 3 have graduate jobs, all 3 of their boyfriends are on low skilled jobs around minimum wage (1 with very long periods of unemployment). My past two relationships were the same. I’m in a competitive decently paid grad profe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:54 PM
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Clown makeup? Maybe you haven’t visited since 2007? Generally small amounts of makeup is in fashion now, the ‘natural’ look
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:49 PM
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True red flags: violent, short temper, history of SA/domestic abuse, druggy/smoker, criminal record, morbidly obese, lazy, misogynist, makes me feel like an object/vagina, has cheated as an adult, talks badly about multiple ex’s and calls them crazy (usually means they drove them crazy, mostly heard this out of the mouth of serial cheaters and manipulators), not truthful Red flags that would require a very good explanation to be overlooked: unemployed, poor family relationships, lack of stable f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:46 PM
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That wasn’t the case last time I had it measured? I’m not particularly lean
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:40 PM
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People just carry weight differently, I have only ever been a ‘healthy’ weight when I had a very severe eating disorder. Even when I hit gym 6 days a week, eat clean etc at best I get to the upper end of overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:11 PM
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No, im 5’3-4
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:00 PM
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It’s more that BMI is a bad measure. I’m obese by BMI but healthy. People carry weight differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:57 PM
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That’s kinda my point though. Are you not doing the same thing? Also I’m talking about objective attractive traits and things like hygiene/grooming/the effort they put into their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:56 PM
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The same applies to women. I’m ‘obese’ but in every other measure (body fat percentage, waist circumference, blood test, BP etc) I’m perfectly healthy. It’s a combination of muscles on my lower half and fat around my hips and bum. There will always be the group we are in. But I think it’s a tad in denial with the current obesity epidemic to think people that workout are massively skewing the stats
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:54 PM
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By BMI it’s close, that’s what I just said? And the same way BMI doesn’t account for muscle in men, it doesn’t account for healthy fat distribution or muscle in women. A lot of women (myself included) carry weight on our hips/bum/thighs. The better measures of size (fat percentage, central obesity/waist circumference) show I’m perfectly healthy, and get by BMI I’m not only overweight but obese. This isn’t particularly uncommon. BMI is just not a great measure, it’s very rough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:51 PM
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Statistically men are just as fat, I think it’s probably that you see the female ‘healthy’ as maybe smaller then it is
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:24 PM
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It’s confirmation bias. I’m 23, have friend ranging from 20-29 of both genders. Hand on heart as much as I love my male friends they are all punching, where as most of the girls are dating down (I can only think of one dating an equal)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:23 PM
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I see the very opposite. Most relationships I see it’s the man who’s punching (at least physically) Edit: England because someone asked. Although I’ve noticed it in many countries I’ve travelled too. Generally women take more care of their look, whilst men often put far less effort in.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:22 PM
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Personally I don’t multi date, I just don’t have the time. But I would talk to people prior to the first date (which for me is fast, if I’m interested I will go on the first date within 2 weeks MAX). Once I’ve had the first date I stop completely. And I wouldn’t want to be seeing someone who multi dates. For me it’s about emotional energy (as well as practical resources). But I completely understand why someone might feel differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:53 PM
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1) I like my job (it’s one of the jobs you mentioned) 2) even if I didn’t work said job I still wouldn’t want to have to have sex just to afford food/home. I had a relationship where he paid for more then I did and I felt like a prostitute 3) because of my job I meet a lot of abused people. Most are women who are stay at home wives or mums. Not having a job, and the freedoms that come with that, make you very vulnerable to abuse. 4) not having a job means no savings + a gap in your CV. If you wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:58 PM
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If they died from childbirth they still would have reproduced.. adding to the stat
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:34 PM
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I can see how that would happen if you never touched grass, although I would hope at least some live in reality. And if they don’t want to approach that’s absolutely fine, however I consistently see men on here moaning about how dating is so difficult however they never make any attempt to!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 07:02 PM
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I can see why this works, it’s extremely rare for someone to ask women out. In their head they might have hinted, or they might have swiped on a dating app (often not even starting conversation) but to actually be asked out on a date must feel really good 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:19 PM
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Men on here moan they can’t get laid but you are seriously expecting this 0.1% type girl to go out with you, do you look for this specific level of naivety so because you hope that if she is THIS sheltered she won’t notice your pill bs. Really? Yes. It’s a huge red flag. Stay away from this girl? (Maybe woman?)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:07 PM
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Thank you for calling me low quality. I wasn’t trying to attract you anyway. I eventually did find a really lovely man from OLD, and yes it does take a lot of time to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 06:54 PM
1

That not a red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 05:51 PM
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My red flags (and how I try to mediate them) I have self harm scars (old but would say it’s a red flag)- I always offer an easy way for someone to ask early on, and I wear clothes on the first date that leave some on display, so if someone wants to tap out they can. Hx of sexual assault that can pop up in sexual encounters randomly, annoyingly, if triggered. I mediate it by being honest if I think a relationship is going to go down that route. Nothing in depth just enough to give warning if it d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 12:11 PM
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Depends what the specific behaviour that makes them ‘creepy’ is
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 12:04 PM
1

Dating apps work for DATING (aka not just getting sex) when you actually look at the profiles. If you mass swipe you f*ck the millions of dollars of work that has gone into the algorithm 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 12:01 PM
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Ive certainly seen men online and male friends in person put their lack of dating success down to them being ‘creepy’… when they actually aren’t. Do men do seem to label themselves this. There is a spectrum of creepy. Most people are just a bit awkward because of nerves. Not many people give creepy vibes to the extent it become a red flag. That’s super rare
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:59 AM
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Have to say this is a pretty good list of shit I avoid, well done 🫡
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:14 AM
2

What are some of the common ones you don’t agree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:10 AM
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That depends how old you are and where you live. I’m in my mid 20’s and it’s not a red flag for someone to be living with their parents at my age. Especially if I’m doing so they are saving up for a deposit. Moving out is as easy as just getting up and doing it one day (I should know, I moved out for a few years and now I’ve moved back to save up), HOWEVER if you do move out it often makes getting into the housing market difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:07 AM
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Depends how ‘creepy’, but from what I’ve seen a lot of men who label themselves ‘creepy’ are just anxious people. You can be confident and creepy, which is sometimes worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:04 AM
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Some people do just come across a bit like that on a first date, it’s not (for most women) considered a Red flag. Think of it more like an amber maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 10:02 AM
1

…. Is not a red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:52 AM
1

Creepy and ‘red flag’ are not the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:51 AM
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I think a lot of the comments here are from people who don’t know what a ‘red flag’ is. A red flag isn’t something that’s undesirable, it’s not being a little nerdy for example, it’s something that possibly hints at a larger problem. For example my personal red flags are having no friends, or having a messy family situation, or having had insane amounts of partners, or being rude to waiters/strangers. It makes you think if this is what I’m seeing now what will be revealed down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 07:01 PM
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That’s not a ‘red flag’, it’s a disadvantage sure but a red flag is something that makes a women actively run for the hills (or at least be on guard)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 06:57 PM
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It’s not a gendered thing. It’s a personality thing. There are the extremes of both gender (actually can’t be alone), and there are those who are perfectly content in their life without a partner. Most of us are in the middle- it’s desirable but we don’t obsess over it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 09:13 AM
1

Body count of 2, had a 2 year sex gap in between two partners
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 08:48 PM
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I don’t think I’ve ever been overwhelmed with choice. It’s not like men ask us on dates all the time. I get asked out on average maybe once or twice a year? Not particularly overwhelming. And anyone I’ve actually been with I’ve initiated anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 08:21 AM
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Depending on how old you are it might just be you’ve got to an age where these women have been this big for a long time, and they’ve tried (and failed) to loose it. It does get to a point where you have to accept your size or you end up not living your life
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:18 PM
5

Ohhh a man with possession issues that thinks I’m a sex toy… fun
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 05:01 PM
5

By ‘You’ I mean the sort of men that post on this page. Not all men. I’m currently dating a wonderful man and I have many male friends and family members who don’t hold this view. Also this bs idea that we make men we want wait to sleep with ‘chads’ is absolutely insane! It’s some idea spawned on the internet that is clearly not the case when you touch the grass
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:58 PM
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‘Normies’, I think it’s safe to say the average man doesn’t refer to other men (or himself) as a ‘normie’ wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:55 PM
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Oh I’ve seen many accounts on here voice or agree with BOTH of those opinion. ‘They want a slut, who’s only a slut for them’ is how I’ve seen it summarised the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:47 PM
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We aren’t comparing YOU to all women, we are comparing all men to all women. We are generalising.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:45 PM
7

You completely miss what I’m saying. Men are not as picky with who they have sex with. They ARE as picky with whom they actually get to Know and actively converse with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:41 PM
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Maybe not to have sex, but to actually have a real conversation with someone you certainly are. Or as you put it ‘get to know someone’.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:37 PM
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Im not saying we aren’t picky. Almost everyone (men included) are picky. We all have preferences. Can you imagine if we had to speak to every single person of the opposite gender that crossed our path each day just to give them a chance. Even if it risked our personal safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:30 PM
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If you look like a male model and still can’t even get a conversation then you must be doing something awful. People don’t owe conversations to other people. Edit: arrogance isn’t attractive. And your attitude from this post is awful. Maybe they are picking up on that. Why should women lower their standards to accommodate EVERY man
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:25 PM
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It’s not impossible, but it’s odd you think random women should just chat to you. I don’t make a habit of chatting to random strangers that often, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:21 PM
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When we aren’t picky you shame us, call us sluts, call us used. When we are picky you complain. Make your fucking minds up
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:19 PM
4

Thats the wrong way round. You don’t romantically or sexually like everyone and gradually disqualify them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 10:05 AM
6

‘It feels like one income’, nope sir, doubling the household income overnight certainly feels like two incomes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 03:55 PM
34

Wait do people not realise this? Of course two good incomes makes life better
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 01:46 PM
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Equality doesn’t just mean 50/50, equality can mean the same percentage of your wage, or the fact that you adapt who pays how much based on wage (regardless of who is earning more or less)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 01:25 PM
1

Wtf, how?! Just for one person I’d struggle to do laundry once a week, when I had the kids it was literally most days (maybe 5 loads a week?)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:11 PM
1

Wtf, how?! Just for one person I’d struggle to do laundry once a week, when I had the kids it was literally most days (maybe 5 loads a week?)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:10 PM
1

Gender roles are natural… for you. Which is fine. Have a relationship that works for you and the other person
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 06:30 PM
1

Who needs their lawn mowed every other day (or if you have children probably everyday) like laundry?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 05:16 PM
2

Well yes. An adult man should not require his partner to be a personal assistant and tell him what chores are required in a household.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 05:14 PM
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Well they could define it. Or does a woman have to be the person assistant to the whole house too? (Which in 90% of families she is- doctors appointments, social events etc all seem to be remembered by the mother)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:21 AM
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Dude it sounds like your argument is based around you giving your children no opportunities and the absolute minimum when it comes to parenting. Aka you are advocating for being a bad parent
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:20 AM
1

Most of those studies are looking at older generation. Not younger millennials and certainly not my generation (Gen z). Looking at them I think they are underestimating the unpaid work hours the women work. Especially if they have young children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:18 AM
4

Time and health are far more important currencies
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:15 AM
4

It’s not about how much you earn. It’s about how many hours you work. If someone works 2 days a week and earns more then their partner who works 5 days a week, it’s not up to the partner who works 5 days a week to do most of the chores
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:14 AM
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I don’t think anyone is asking for that? Most women are just asking for a halfway split overall. Whereas most women seem to work full time AND do 90% of the childcare related things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:14 PM
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I mean ^ is a bit long winded. ‘We are not having sex’ kinda summarises it. No point giving all the T&C’s.
/r/seduction01/11/22 05:44 PM
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Plan another date asap, keep her interest and show you are interested. Something fun! Not sure what country you are in. If it’s the UK it’s bonfire night on Saturday so go to a firework display- can be very romantic in the dim light and because it’s cold you get to be a bit touchy in a non pushy way. Also is she really cold or is she just busy, it’s a weekday after all?
/r/seduction01/11/22 05:41 PM
1

See my other post where I’ve replied to you with a link. It’s a lot of states. Actually if you had even read into the absolute basics of this topic you would understand it’s legal so that doctors and women have protections against stillbirths/miscarriages and medically necessary late stage abortions. We are already seeing women ending up in ITU, being brought back from the threshold of death, because doctors were limited by law to perform medically necessary abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:37 PM
2

As another post said- if I feel the consent, chemistry and comfort/safety is there it can be the first date and historically has been first or second.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:27 AM
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These are the 3 key areas I would say I think about too. Messing up any of the 3 can really push any chance of sex out of the picture, at least for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:25 AM
2

Because it’s just not simple. Life happens. Sometimes libido drops for various reasons. And NOTHING will suddenly make it come back. I’m all for communication but there are some factors a partner can’t fix. And of course I care about my partner but faking an orgasm while being in discomfort or even pain is a lot to ask of someone (because that is what happens when you have sex you don’t want)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 11:32 PM
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Multiple states have banned abortions. For many who haven’t banned them in law, they have made it impossible to access them (defunded PP, made it legal to protest outside them, put so many restrictions on access etc) No limit abortions are only ever used in devastating cases. Often when the fetus is already dying and now the mothers life is on the line. Nobody gets to 8 months pregnant and gets an abortion on a whim. Women have died or ended up in ITU because they needed late stage abortions and…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:02 PM
2

Haha I check with the comment before, you JUST deleted it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:33 PM
4

You suggested we should approach when not in the mood, and stop making excuses. But as I explained that is somewhat even meaner
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:32 PM
2

And yet you included it in the post… re read the first paragraph
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:28 PM
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You’ve just changed your mind though. What’s your solution then?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:38 PM
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Correction Muslims PRETEND to not fuck before marriage. You all fuck non Muslims, and then come the wedding night apparently your virginity grows back. Same way you don’t get intoxicated… but all smoke loads of weed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:34 PM
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And what if you then don’t get into it? You’ve led them on and now you feel obliged to do something you really don’t want to do or you let them down. Both shit options
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:32 PM
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Could be a number of things. I’ve 100% said this. Ive said it to mean two things: 1) I like you, I want to spend time with you and make out, but I’m not ready for sex yet so if that’s all you want then I don’t want to lead you on (and possibly risk my safety). I don’t want to ever risk leading a man on and him getting angry when we are alone. 2) I’m considering having sex with you, if it leads that way and feels natural, but I don’t want you to EXPECT it incase it doesn’t happen or I start to fe…
/r/seduction31/10/22 05:36 PM
2

I think it’s more because it’s more distressing for them. I have a number of autistic family members, the boys are significantly more happy and less judged alone. If they want to go fishing or ride their bike that’s not seen as weird, and they are quite content. Even when you are interacting with other boys as a boy you can do so without talking- just play football or chill out. Most girls hobbies revolve around your ability to socialise and communicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 05:26 PM
2

It’s actually because they do it better and are often more self aware of being Neuro divergent, because women are inherently more social.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 05:05 PM
4

We maybe come from a different part of the world, but where I am this was the set up maybe 50 years ago. But certainly not today?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:58 PM
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Women are often pretty content single, so this wouldn’t have the effect I think you believe it will. Plus more women are sexually fluid and simply more affectionate with friends, so it’s not like they will all be touch deprived and lack affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 11:33 AM
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Girls mask A LOT better, this isn’t a secret. Girls friends will also actually go through more effort to help them socialise, get a boyfriend etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 11:32 AM
1

It comes in waves where I’m more into dating. In the last month I’ve asked out 4 guys, one of them we have date 5 planned so hopefully won’t have to do any more asking out for a while :) I’ve been asked on a date by men twice in my life. So I’ve propositioned men far more then they have propositioned me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 06:40 PM
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Liking someone doesn’t really work like that… you could have those features and be ugly or stunning. You can’t tell from a list
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:37 PM
1

It’s not ‘the look’, it’s about showing you put some effort into yourself. Laziness is NOT an attractive trait. Honestly even basic grooming goes a long way and yet sadly many men don’t do it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:25 PM
2

This is 100% it, I’ve posted this exact thing on a number of threads. Men just don’t seem to get it at all. I’m not getting a tingling feeling from a photo on a dating app. But I can meet you in person and the second you smile, or the way someone’s eyes can light up when they laugh it was makes me go ‘oh shit this man is attractive’. I also agree about the muscle thing. I don’t like at a man with muscles and think he is sexy, I respect the work that went into it but that’s literally it. But if h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:23 PM
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Not quite sure how from this story where the man abandoned his children (as they sadly often do) that women were the ones that still go insulted…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:13 PM
1

Dating doesn’t have to cost a lot of money at all? You can literally go for a walk or a picnic for practically free (or however much the food costs). You can hang out and play board games (or more cheeky games). You can cook together. You can go to a bar with live music and do the whole date for about $25. Quite often you can find free things like museums, art exhibitions, live music etc- of which the only cost will probably be a coffee. I’ve been on plenty of dates where the most expensive thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:11 PM
2

I’m a pretty happy person, very content with my life. People who are just genuinely happy do exist
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:05 PM
3

It’s not. They were together? Or that’s how you post reads at least. And yeah I’ve heard people say superficial bs like ‘it’s because he’s hot’ because it’s easier to admit that then admit they like a toxic person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:01 PM
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I’m not, it’s basic etiquette. I’m also pretty picky, if I go on a date with someone it’s because I have genuine interest and feel a good vibe with them. So it’s not like I’m burning through money or getting rejected very often - because I’m being selective. I’m very content single, so for me dating is about quality and not quantity. Makes the whole experience a lot better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:00 PM
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You’ve never been in love clearly. It makes people do fucking stupid things. I mean just look at how many people go crawling back to their abusers time and time again in domestic abuse because of ‘love’.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 03:56 PM
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I tend to strike up conversation first, and if they seem to be reciprocating the vibe I will ask to go on a date, but sometimes they ask first. Just depends on the situation and how the conversation flows. Generally I split 50/50 when it comes to paying. Or say it’s drinks pay for a round each, or if it’s an activity someone pay tickets and someone pay drinks etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 03:54 PM
1

Because you don’t do this for looks. There are PLENTY of good looking people. You don’t put up with this behaviour because of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 03:52 PM
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Yup, both in person and online.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 03:51 PM
3

It’s got absolutely nothing to do with what this man looks like. Nothing. If feelings are there women (and men) will do all sorts of things for ‘love’. We’ve all had friends be in unhealthy relationships where you just can’t understand why they are doing the things they do, they certainly don’t have to be attractive for that to happen. And it sounds very much like your ‘friend’ came to you when she was in a vulnerable place and you are just being a judgement dick about it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 03:49 PM
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I disagree. You should be straight forward early on. I’m always straight forward and respect someone more if they are too. There is no point wasting both our time and money if we are looking for different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 03:46 PM
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Sounds more like you were ‘friends’ with this girl for ulterior motives. Because you’ve talked about her in a very negative way. Do yourself, and women, a favour and don’t pretend to be friends with people if this is what you actually think of them. Also are you REALLY blaming a girl for getting upset for being dumped? Do you not get upset when you get dumped? When your friends come to you crying this is what you think of them? Jesus Maybe if she dated a two faced ‘nice guy’ like you then she mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 03:43 PM
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They can’t be ‘top tier’ but they can certainly put themselves in the game, it’s not like the requirements an average woman has are particularly difficult to meet
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 03:32 PM
1

Capitalism
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:21 AM
1

I mean it’s very culture specific. I’m European so nobody is circumcised here really
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 01:57 PM
1

He has to be wealthy. Rent/mortgages cost a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 12:36 PM
1

Tbh a lot of women do make the first move these days, myself included. Especially on dating apps. I always send something to start conversation but men just say ‘hi’ -_-
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 12:34 PM
1

Have you seen the cost of living recently? Even living ‘simply’ requires two wages
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 12:30 PM
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1) we aren’t loved unconditionally. That’s just bs. People hate their spouses and children, people abuse them. Being a woman or child doesn’t suddenly mean you are loved, certainly not unconditionally. 2) in my experience men don’t make the first move, Persue or single handedly pay for the dates either
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:57 AM
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I’m not sure where you are from but where I live being a kept woman is INCREDIBLY rare, and even when it does happens it comes with a lot sacrifices. They pay for having that domestic set up, massively. Almost all the domestic abuse cases I’ve worked on included women who didn’t work and were ‘kept’ women. It’s a very risky position to be in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:53 AM
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I’m still yet to have someone explain to me what exactly was handed to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:44 AM
1

I mean the getting circumcised thing isn’t exactly mandatory :’)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:38 AM
2

I’d love to know what ‘help’ I’ve had for being a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:36 AM
1

Amen. This are loads of my reasons I would choose to be a man too
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:33 AM
1

These men do not exist. Not in the real world. Unless you are a Victoria secret model, and even then they will cheat on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:26 AM
1

I want an 11/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:46 AM
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I can’t be bothered to go back through all the videos, but the ones that immediately comes to mind is Commenting on one of the guests biological clock implying she doesn’t know her own mind, to a woman who said she didn’t want children. The direct quote is ‘oh 35, and no kids? Good luck fighting that biological clock’. The way it was said came across as actually quite harsh, I’m surprised the editor let it in.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:45 PM
14

Been with the ‘nice guy’, learnt my lesson. This doesn’t surprise me one bit either, he was over compensating for a long time and made some VERY questionable comments about women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:17 PM
2

Why offer to split if you don’t want to? I always offer to pay my half, and I MEAN it (I almost always do end up paying my half). I’d be flattered if they paid because I find it difficult to work out if they are interested, but i also see the value in a man that respects me as their equal. Both options for me are a win 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:28 AM
2

Speak for yourself. I always insist on 50/50
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:25 AM
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Guess you missed what I said. Maybe it’s not the loneliness that is shit, maybe it’s the actual age group. The mid life crisis is a real problem :’)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:24 AM
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I mean it’s true. Have you seen the shitty mental health of the males of the exact same age group you just mentioned. Just seems that maybe it’s being middle aged that’s the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:15 AM
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Yeah that’s why the suicide rate peaks in middle aged men… oh wait
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:42 PM
3

I think you misunderstand how friendships work for women. You are holding female relationships to your relationship standards. Women have deep friendships like this. This is how friendship as a standard works for us our whole lives. I don’t want to fuck my friends but I have many friends I talk to most days. I have no ROMANTIC love for them, I don’t want to be intimate or sleep with them, but I do love them. It’s just a different type of love. I love family members for example but obviously in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 10:24 PM
2

I have my friend husbands, but it’s mutual. It’s good to have friends you are close to of the opposite sex, and i hope I give them something because they give me a lot. I think men get something from the company of women, and vice versa. I tend to find my male friends turn to me for things that are more emotional based that they don’t feel comfortable discussing with the guys, or if they want a female perspective. I don’t think this ^ set up is particularly a bad thing. Or do you mean something …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 10:15 PM
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https://www.bikellaw.com/blog/9/remarriage-after-divorce-what-are-your-odds/ Men literally statically do go off and remarry more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 10:08 PM
6

It’s not ‘social conditioning’. I’m extremely liberal from Europe, if I wanted to be polyamorous it wouldn’t be a big deal at all. It’s just not something I enjoy. The opportunities have been there. Maybe I’d consider it with another women, but I certainly don’t have any desire with another man. I fall hard for people and I do genuinely only have eyes for them, I don’t find other men attractive when I’m in love with someone. I also don’t enjoy casual sex. So I wouldn’t be ‘enjoying’ these other …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 09:54 PM
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Speak for yourself. I’ve met quite a few. And being single doesn’t mean crazy cat lady or celibacy. I think the true tell is just how quick men rebound after a divorce compared to women. Many women who have literally experienced both recognise they prefer to stay single, and if it happens it happens. It’s men who jump to the next relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 09:52 PM
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Can’t speak for others but I am monogamous. When I love someone I only have eyes for them, I don’t feel attracted to other people. I’d also find it incredibly upsetting if I had to then share that person who is my world, when I’m clearly not there’s 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 09:47 PM
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They don’t want to be single, but between two bad options (be single, or be with someone who you don’t want to be with) then there is a clear winner
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 09:43 PM
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Yes, long term. An unhappy LTR is FAR more depressing then being single. It literally wears you down to a shell of your former self.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 07:53 PM
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I’ve been there, being single and alone is in fact better
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:35 PM
1

Don’t ‘keep track’ as such, but haven’t had many partners so can’t not know 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:51 PM
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Sounds about right. I’m a British woman and the standard for me has always been split the first date, and then as a relationship progresses kinda take turns. In the relationships I’ve had men have always been the ones pushing to pay (and for me not to) even when I make it clear I WANT to. Currently the guy I’ve just started dating let me split, and honestly I’m much happier with the dynamic, he is also interestingly the most comfortable with his money and middle class. I wonder if wealth/class m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:49 PM
1

If I’m sexually attracted to someone and the date had chemistry I will kiss in first date, sex depends but usually second or third date?
/r/ExRedPill22/10/22 07:47 AM
1

That’s what I’m saying DESPERATE beta men. Where I’m from ‘beta’ men are actually quite desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:13 AM
1

Tbf I do try to include convo about family during a date. Family is important to me so it matters if their is an absolute shit show that they defend
/r/seduction20/10/22 03:05 PM
2

Not to the extent people on here seem to suggest men need to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:01 PM
2

You sounds pretty far above average. Personally I think because of how socialisation works (we tend to see people around who are more confident and social) and because of social media both men and women have their ‘averages’ skewed. However I would argue the average for women is FAR more skewed then men. Particularly for a woman without surgery. I’ve been sat there before with friends scrolling through Insta who were rating girls on insta. The ones they called ‘natural’ and ‘girl next door’ were…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:00 PM
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I don’t think people underrated their partners attractiveness, if anything love makes you over rate your partners appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:25 PM
3

I’ve touched the grass. I have very varying social circles of different classes, and both sexes. Most couples are just normal people. Most dates or ONS or FWB are both just average people. Also generally men are FAR more about looks then women. What turns a women on and makes her attracted to you it’s the everything else- the way you carry yourself, how you speak and what you are saying, your smile. It’s a bit like how women get their nails done, it’s not for men it’s for other women. Men gettin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:22 PM
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This is what men THINK women want. And particularly on here you seem to drive yourself crazy about this expectation… that men are putting on other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 01:49 PM
3

Guess it depends on your income bracket 🤷‍♀️ for a lot of people with low income they are the same thing (especially at the moment)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 12:00 PM
1

Not true
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:36 AM
3

That is gonna depend on the woman? In my last LTR my partners lack of frugality was a real issue. His spending habits were so wasteful
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:36 AM
2

This simply isn’t true. I’d like a man in a similar bracket/class, but they don’t have to earn more then me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:33 AM
1

Except for the lack of sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:32 PM
4

I wouldn’t lie to sleep with someone and invalidate their consent. No I wouldn’t. It’s something I strongly morally disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:31 PM
2

Speak for the people you associate yourself with. I favour the company of blunt people
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:19 PM
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Sex is an important part of a relationship, it just seems this advice will turn away any man with a sex drive like mine because he would think we are (wrongly) uncompatible
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:18 PM
1

You mean the English person typing in English… correct
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:20 PM
2

Because you don’t want the same things. Not everyone is compatible. The fact you are a manipulative liar might be part of your issue
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:33 AM
10

To manipulate her for sex, I think OP has made that very clear
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:29 AM
6

It’s not a trap to not want to be manipulated into bed… If a man knows that being honest will mean she won’t have sex with him, then he is the one trapping her!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:28 AM
1

And there will be a reason for that, you just clearly haven’t worked it out yet. Do people like your dating profiles? Do you get to the stage of talking? At what stage are you losing interest (And as per the guy above im happy to give female advice on the dating profile, I do it for my male friends) Also dating apps are not all the same. It will depend on your area but where I am tinder is a sausage fest of people looking to have quick, high risk sex. Girls are usually on it for a joke, if they …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:24 AM
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They generally don’t. Oestrogen can be quite useful to give soft skin
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:37 AM
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Nope. Finding someone attractive is about sexuality, not sex drive. There are women with high libidos who go years without sex, myself included, because we just didn’t meet anyone we found attractive. Attractive in the sense of the whole person, not just the body.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:36 AM
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This is one of the main reasons I’m so nervous about being with men, this is the true fear right here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:26 AM
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Desperate ‘Beta’ men aren’t honest or straight forward, that’s part of the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:26 AM
3

Underrated comment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:25 AM
5

This is clearly projection. Just because you are someone who is comfortable with manipulation doesn’t mean other people are
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:24 AM
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Erm no. Generally men have more sexual partners then women anyway, so if anything it’s men that have hoe phases (and in my anecdotal experience this is also very true. Most girls I know at my age have body counts of about 4, the ones that are seen as the ‘sluts’ of the group have counts of about 7 or 8. I have quite a number of male friends with body counts of anywhere from 15- 100’s. Even the more average men are looking at double or triple the average women in the groups I’m in)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:15 AM
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I’m not attracted to photos at all. But the animated person, their smile, the way they hold themselves etc can make their body very attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:51 PM
1

Nice is the absolutely minimum… making nice your personality and only selling point is what’s wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:48 PM
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It’s a shame someone tried to do a nice thing here and people aren’t playing ball. What do I appreciate about men? Can’t think of anything completely gender specific but being broad comparing my friends I’d say the way men and women care if expressed very differently. My male friends demonstrate the way they care through protection, and it’s much more subtle until it’s tested. It was something I actually was quite surprised by. Men also are A LOT more harsh with banter. Only my close female frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:00 PM
1

Why you gotta bring down the mood like that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:54 PM
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Last time I checked I was a person so that sounds about right. Were we not people before?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:53 PM
1

Because as I have said in various ways through this thread exercise is good for you and it’s desirable to be healthy. Healthy does not mean muscular.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 08:44 PM
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Neither. I’d be single instead. I can look at who I’ve fancied, who I’ve been with etc and come to some decent conclusions. And none of them were skinny or muscular. I’m not outing people online :’)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:09 PM
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Good job the option isn’t small dude or ripped dude- there is an amazing array of men in the middle. And you clearly don’t believe me. But just ask some normal women you know who they go for. Most will say they like a little dad bod.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 03:49 PM
1

Now I KNOW you know nothing about body shape or fitness. Strength training is an absolute basic for women to have an evenly mildly close to ‘ideal’ body. How are you not aware of this? The ratio of cardio to strength training will depend on the results you want and your genetics, but generally the average woman would need to do 3 sessions a week minimum to get anywhere near the ideal. Im not sure what you aren’t understanding from what I’m explaining. People carry weight differently. My BMI is o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 03:47 PM
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You are talking extremes. By not ‘too muscular’ I’m not talking about someone who sits at a desk all day and does absolutely no strength training or exercise. I’m talking about someone who is active and does regular strength training (as most attractive women also do). You implied to ideal body type requires some serious lifting + all the extras (steroids, insane diets etc). Which is doesn’t. Honestly maybe it’s a generational thing but the split is about 50/50 where I live. Although a lot of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:15 AM
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Ah i see why we disagree. You are talking about mens male beauty standards, not the females preference of male beauty standards. Obviously there is personal preference differences but most women want a man who has a bit of arm muscle and isn’t fat. They DONT want a man who is ripped. I know I personally avoid muscular men (muscular to the point of like abs and defined arm muscles etc), as so do almost every woman I know. The only women who want a gym rat man are the women who are gym rats themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:09 AM
1

Maybe it’s a general thing but generally most women I know want a man who isn’t fat, with maybe a bit of muscle in the arms. They don’t want a muscular man, most actually avoid muscular men. Again, maybe a generational things but girls are the gym aren’t just doing some cardio and stretches? Pretty much all women I know my age do some level of strength training. Butts, hips and thighs only if you are lucky. Most women aren’t that lucky. And women a predisposed to gain fat, period, men are not. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:05 AM
2

I’m not anymore… because I eat properly now and gym when I want (only about 3 times a week). I gave up on maintaining that desirable body because it was so near to impossible. And as soon as I stopped with all that stuff suddenly I’m invisible again. So yes, there is an ‘ideal’ female body because I’ve had it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:06 PM
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‘Not be fat’, is a very subjective statement. I’ve seen the wide range of bodies that could mean. By fuck all food I really mean being constantly hungry. I’d much rather have the energy to enjoy the gym because I have eaten properly, then constantly be hungry. I’ve been closer to the ideal female body then I am right now. And it took gym 6 days a week and constantly be STARVING because of how little I would get to eat. I literally ended up on anti depressants but looking back I was just hungry a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 07:54 PM
2

Generally other then height the more desirable physical traits for men just require a lot of food and working out, regular hair cuts help. For women it’s essentially the same amount of gym, on fuck all food, and a genetic predisposition to gain weight in specific body areas (with the only way around this being surgery because unlike muscle you can’t decide where fat will be distributed) There is a reason the cosmetic and beauty industry for women is HUGE. It’s because the standards are unachieva…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 07:37 PM
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For the average man and woman it’s likely more easier for a man to get the desired body then a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 05:51 PM
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It depends what you want from a woman. If you want a traditional women she will expect this of you. If you are looking for a more modern women she won’t. It really does just depend on the type of women you are looking for AND who you actually pursue in reality
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:14 PM
1

A lot of my friends are in relationships… and I’m not a home wrecker. I’ve also dated within the groups in the past so it would be extremely awkward to then date his friends. I haven’t had this awful experience on dating apps. If I don’t like someone I can block them online or if it’s in person just walk away? And I’m not sure why you think I’m gonna get raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 12:52 PM
0

Why do you assume I don’t do all of those things already? I’m very happy with my self development, my life just keeps getting better and better, i have an amazing social life that even I struggle to keep up with and I have lots of ‘diverse’ friends. Why on earth do I need therapy?! Just because someone’s single doesn’t mean they sit in a basement alone doing nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 12:43 PM
3

At worst the date is a story to tell at parties, at best you might actually find someone. It’s worth trying is my attitude I guess 🤷‍♀️ Waiting for someone to fall in my lap feels a bit naive
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 12:31 PM
2

I think my parents have raised me to have too high expectations. My mum in particular has always pushed me to find a man who see’s me as an equal and is a hard worker… which for the current dating pool is actually quite hard to find
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 10:57 AM
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I can’t force people to like me that don’t like me. Have to take what I can get :’)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 10:32 AM
3

A promiscuous man. High body count isn’t attractive in men. The guy I’m currently talking to has a body count of 14 and that’s taking me time to get over
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:19 PM
2

The decision making skills of women mature a few years ahead of men. This argument is completely fucked up but if you are going to make it then it makes sense for men to be considered children longer
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:34 PM
2

Most people will say super high or super low body count isn’t attractive. Unless they themselves fit into either category
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 05:31 PM
1

Was active with a LT partner, went sexless for 2 1/2 years after the breakup (nobody really interested) and then had sex twice with the same guy and now back to sexless again (although I’m really trying with the dating apps and IRL- going out 1-2 times almost every weekend at this point)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 09:09 PM
1

If a man hasn’t had sex by 35/40 I don’t think it’s sad he gets an escort.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 12:39 AM
4

Wtf mate, honestly just go outside and get off the internet. I think your brain needs it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 11:06 PM
2

My male friends know my job, they know I’m not desperate. If I pay for one meal they pay for the next or round of drinks or whatever. We all put in equal money if we can afford it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 10:59 PM
1

Touch the grass my friend
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 10:54 PM
4

So some random girl comes up to you and says ‘take me to a restaurant and pay for my food’ and you do it? Wtf? Is that a kink?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 10:53 PM
1

It’s clearly a man baiting people
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 10:51 PM
2

I hope this is sarcasm…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 10:47 PM
12

Yeah, where is all this attention. More importantly where is the free food? I spent years hungry as a student and now I’m being told there was free food on offer?!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 10:47 PM
7

Clearly a man
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 10:38 PM
15

This has to be a man posting about what he thinks women experience :’)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 10:37 PM
2

Ive moved back home after uni. Best thing I ever did. This is giving my self the best chance of being able to own a property in my 20’s. Id actually prefer to be with a man who is living at home to save money rather then someone who is living month to month because of the cost of rent. Obviously if you can afford to move out or need to move out it’s different, but having a family functional enough to let you stay at home and making that sensible financial decision does reflect positively on a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 06:07 PM
1

Hmm I’d rather the lie. I wouldn’t want to leave a relationship feeling like I’m unloveable because the reason we broke is something I can’t change. But everyone will probably have a different answer to this
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:57 PM
1

But when you do get a like and a message at least they mean it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 04:21 PM
1

We all know that’s not why because they never actually message
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:42 AM
1

Ive maxed out the likes on hinge a couple of times this week. They are just normal guys, it’s kinda why I use hinge because there is other stuff then just the picture. Like there is no point me going after a gym bro or like someone that is super outdoorsy so I select more based on that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 07:29 PM
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Yeah idk why there is this mad assumption that everyone who goes to uni is fucking. Our nights out kinda were like yours but we would get home, smoke some weed, eat some sort of takeaway (whatever nasty thing is open that time of night) and watch tv/talk. Of all the uni houses I lived in (all female) the majority were virgins. A few lost their virginity whilst at uni but mostly to LTR. 3 of my housemates from uni are still virgins in our mid 20’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 08:48 PM
1

You can believe what you want but it’s the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 08:29 PM
1

Except we do. The way someone lights up when they talk about something they are passionate about really is super attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 05:43 AM
1

That’s the experience of my friends and I. Considering the majority have NEVER been asked on a date, myself included.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 01:06 PM
1

Then I wouldn’t be happy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 05:23 AM
1

Speak for yourself 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 10:21 PM
0

Depends on the friend. They all have different attributes that mean they get lots of girls. Some just have low standards (men are far more picky then they like to admit) Some it’s the fact they are direct and ask for what they want. And if you do that enough eventually someone says yes. Most of the guys I know that are successful treat women like people, rather then objects, which tends to help. They also handle rejection really well, they aren’t assholes about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 10:15 PM
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21 is a VERY young age to want a child, especially in todays economic climate, that’s why. Also remember women are impacted far more greatly by having children then men, so it makes sense they want a chance to live first. It’s a bigger decision for a woman to want children- she sacrificed her body, career, will likely be the primary care giver and risks becoming a single mum. (All my friends who did have children at your age deeply regret it. Their partners life hardly changed other then having …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 09:51 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 09:26 PM
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That’s really good to hear. But it’s still such an undertaking. They will have their own lives. They won’t be there in the middle of the night for example. Id honestly reconsider or at least give relationships at chance, especially as you are so young!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 09:26 PM
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I understand if the clock runs out and it genuinely is the ONLY option. Like now or never, AND you have the resources. But this man is planning from the start to do this. Which is what feels wrong to me I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 09:24 PM
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