twelvemongooses Archive

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1	Would TRP fare better than MGTOW on Wikipedia? Its pretty easy to see why the MGTOW got edited how it was: Men Going Their Own Way (abbreviated MGTOW, pronounced /ˈmɪg.taʊ/), sometimes also called the marriage strike, the marriage boycott, or the sexodus, is a worldwide social phenomenon vs Men Going Their Own Way (more commonly abbreviated MGTOW, pronounced /ˈmɪg.taʊ/) is an online community[1] supported by websites and social media presences.[2] The movement is part of what is more broadly termed the manosphere.[3] "worldwide social phenom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/15 04:23 PM
1	[CMV]: Pre-selection is real. Women are turned off by a kissless male virgin the same way men are turned off by a high N count woman. It depends on the guy. I submit as evidence an anecdote (the best evidence, as we all know) I'm out at a club with two friends, one is tall and confident, the other is shorter, and objectively speaking less attractive (although in recent years he's been doing a lot better with women than he used to, at this point he was a 24 year old virgin) So we're at a table with a group of girls and someone mentions something about 24 year old virginity. The girls mishear this and think that guy A is the vir…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/15 03:19 PM
1	What is The Blue Pill's advice? There can't be a "blue pill" dating guide because the whole distinction of red pill/blue pill is actually really meaningless in real life, it only really functions as way to draw up ideological sides to argue against each other on the internet. I mean seriously, the reference "blue pill" doesent even make any sense on its own except as a semi-jokey counterpart to the "take the red pill" one. A non red pill guide to dating would probably just encompass the "build your value/approach women" parts …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/15 04:04 AM
1	Men of PPD...Rate These Women I dont know about numerical scores but i would left swipe all of them except 3 and maybe 6. None of them are unattractive but they dont have anything that stands out to me either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/15 10:29 PM
1	Men of PPD, do you meet these requirements? I'm at 7 for all those criteria.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/15 08:06 PM
3	Regarding accusations of "misogyny" and appeals to emotion Then it was totally irrelevent to what I was saying. I didnt say all accusations of misogyny are equally valid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/15 07:30 PM
3	Regarding accusations of "misogyny" and appeals to emotion If you're presenting that rollo tomassi blog as something that is an example of clearly-not-misogyny-how-could-you-think-that then you probably picked a bad example.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/15 06:56 PM
1	Regarding accusations of "misogyny" and appeals to emotion Yes, just as feminists believe it to be morally permissible for women to be angry at men, as many of us have seen in action for the past several decades. 'yes but the other side does it too' is a deflection from the point of whether it's permissible or not. Hypothetically if you met the stereotypical man-hating feminist, someone literally saying 'all men should be castrated' ect would it be improper to call that sexism /misandery/whatever?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/15 04:20 PM
4	Regarding accusations of "misogyny" and appeals to emotion Yes, but the term "anger stage" indicates something fluctuating and fleeting. It doesn't imply a permanent, irredeemable condition, as "misogyny" does. An RPer might say that one should get over the anger stage and move on, while the BPers, feminists, and their fellow travelers are implying that "misogyny" is something that no one ever gets over. Once a "misogynist," always a "misogynist." Firstly I don't think it's at all implied in the definition of misogyny that it has to be forever. Secondly…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/15 03:47 PM
25	Regarding accusations of "misogyny" and appeals to emotion Emotional appeals are only a fallacy when an argument is strictly logical to begin with. Broader questions like "How should I live?" or "How should I treat other humans?" will inevitably touch on ethical/emotional concerns. I think it's also somewhat absurd to accuse TRPers of "hatred of women" when most of the time they're saying that they want and desire women. Also, this is revealing of a double standard in your argument. TRP is based fundamentally around emotion, namely mens desire of women …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/15 03:07 PM
5	Why does TBP think Dread Game and Negging are abusive? Dread Negative. What are your immediate connotations of these words?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/15 01:11 PM
1	If relationships are supposed to be equal, why are there so many Average Frustrated Chumps? He initially did it as a guy though before realising that a woman would be more lucrative. Which was my point. https://vice-images.vice.com/images/content-images/2014/12/17/i-tried-to-blag-as-much-free-shit-as-i-could-using-tinder-322-body-image-1418832419.jpg?resize=:&output-quality=75 The OP assumes that because women get more attention average guys can get no attention which isnt true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/15 01:08 PM
1	If relationships are supposed to be equal, why are there so many Average Frustrated Chumps? Did you read the article? The author getting the free shit was a dude, he's like physically a 6. Also that post is funny because he's right on all three counts but redpillers are only wont to believe something if you phrase it in the most cynical terms possible to suit their worldview= "most women on tinder probably arent boning supermodels" - true but they wont believe it "...because their WOMAN BRAINS are TOO DUMB" -works, fits their prejudices. I posted a thread here saying "getting laid isnt…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/15 10:12 AM
1	If relationships are supposed to be equal, why are there so many Average Frustrated Chumps? Thats not what I said? I asked if bittersedditer had never seen a couple of comparable attractiveness. Why are you telling me about some random girls weird opinion?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/15 10:10 AM
1	If relationships are supposed to be equal, why are there so many Average Frustrated Chumps? Then the bar to being a chad is extremely low.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/15 04:31 PM
1	If relationships are supposed to be equal, why are there so many Average Frustrated Chumps? Being a man fucking sucks, bro. Nah its pretty cool, I like it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/15 03:43 PM
3	If relationships are supposed to be equal, why are there so many Average Frustrated Chumps? Women marry the men they had as second or third option. Most women don't marry the men they want to marry, lol. Him: women never date equals Me: bullshit you see couples of equal attractiveness all the time You: yes but they're not happy about it. So? Thats irrelevant. Thats what dating down or equal means- Dating the person who's not your dream match because they're what you can get. (Also in these discussions with red pillers it always seems like theres an underlying assumption that no one is …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/15 03:27 PM
1	If relationships are supposed to be equal, why are there so many Average Frustrated Chumps? Thousands of male redditers flock to subreddits like r/seduction[1] and r/theredpill[2] . r/foreveralone[3] is filled with depressed male virgins, Because the general impression of reddit is theres a heavy aura of misery everywhere. Outside of it most guys I know seem to be doing ok. On OkCupid, the average man has hundreds of failures before he gets a chance at romance. On Tinder, the above average man has to deal with hundreds of failures. Depends what you consider failure. If every time a gir…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/15 11:56 AM
3	If relationships are supposed to be equal, why are there so many Average Frustrated Chumps? Never happens? You've never seen a husband and wife of comparable (un)attractiveness?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/15 11:37 AM
1	Today's Women Have a Higher Average Partner Count than Men right? Fair point for clarity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/15 05:33 PM
4	Today's Women Have a Higher Average Partner Count than Men right? I'd say at the lower end of those contexts (HS and college and under 25) I'm not so sure, my memories of high school were that only a few girls were known to be putting out but quite a few guys had had a go with them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/15 04:30 PM
6	Today's Women Have a Higher Average Partner Count than Men right? That's why I said median, that's what a higher median would entail.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/15 04:24 PM
7	Are most of the non-RPW women and blue pillers on here more interested in defending women and maintaining their power over sexual strategy, than learning to empathise with men? This whole forum is set up in a way that frames the debate in terms of us vs them and you're surprised at how hostile it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/15 02:07 PM
7	Today's Women Have a Higher Average Partner Count than Men right? I assume the OP means heterosexual partners. Also if you're counting lesbians you've got to count gay men too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/15 11:22 AM
14	Today's Women Have a Higher Average Partner Count than Men right? You mean median, the average would have to be the same as the men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/15 10:18 AM
8	At the age when men have the highest value, they also have the lowest sex drive Perhaps, in our modern world that is the case. Consider that in the past the average life expectancy only hovered around 35 years old. Thats a common misinterpretation. Life expectancy in the past was lower because people died as infants or got killed by disease when they were older or died in childbirth inbetween. Assuming nothing got you but plain old age though there was nothing stopping you from living till 75. They didn't have accelerated aging where 35 made you an old man. Roman soldiers t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/15 12:15 PM
5	The Hypergamy Debate That's kind of a supply and demand thing though. Dick is cheap and abundant and on offer anywhere.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/15 06:59 PM
0	How common do you believe gang bangs actually are? The post is obviously an exaggeration but I'm genuinely curious how as to how many people gangbangs are a thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/15 02:54 PM
3	The Danger of a Single Story: Do you only hear stories that all sound the same about feminists/TRP? The problem is with the doctrine. I'm a broken record on PPD when it comes to feminism, and I'll continue to be a broken record until everyone gets it. Modern feminism is a business. It's about money. I'm broadly pro-feminist but I'd agree with this: Women are a significant demographic on the internet now, their views and clicks drive content, news feed and social media sites will thus tend to push a pro-feminist slant at the very least to avoid pissing off half their userbase or at worst to har…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/15 02:25 PM
2	Are Women as visual as men? (Experiment for women) It's because he's pretty but he's generically pretty, there's nothing inviting in the viewer. Many peoples gut reaction when they see someone like that is a negative assessment of their personality (and an awareness that this person kinda makes them feel like shit in comparison unless they're also an ab toned superhuman) It's like that test where it's implied what the most popular people on dating sites are the ones who are good looking, but with some kind of polarising look or flaw. Attractive …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/15 09:35 AM
2	In your ideal world, who should the hot (specifically talking about the hot ones here) girls be getting with? No, you've added new lines that weren't there at the time I responded, I can see them in the old old browser window, they're phrased like they were to me but at that point I'd clearly already responded to you an hour ago. Its weaselly bullshit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 10:53 PM
6	In your ideal world, who should the hot (specifically talking about the hot ones here) girls be getting with? Editing posts after I've already responded, so it looks like you were talking to me but you're actually just doing it to look better in the eyes of anyone watching. Weak shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 10:38 PM
5	In your ideal world, who should the hot (specifically talking about the hot ones here) girls be getting with? Also I notice that I responded to this post 3 hours ago, but now it says "edited 40 minutes ago" and theres new lines in it, along with others of your posts in this thread. You're editing in stuff after the fact. That is some goddamn tragic shit man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 10:35 PM
2	In your ideal world, who should the hot (specifically talking about the hot ones here) girls be getting with? My argument in the OP isn't so much a "lower your standards" thing as it is a position that I don't see how top tier women dating top tier men is in itself an argument for hypergamy. To me that sounds like what would be expected in a world where all parties are behaving rationally. yet FAwomen has a ban on the main FA sub coming to their sub to ask for a date. Where? It doesen't sound implausible but the only rule I see is "dating posts arent allowed here they should go in /r/foreveralonedating …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 10:05 PM
3	In your ideal world, who should the hot (specifically talking about the hot ones here) girls be getting with? If you dropped your gotcha question (which quite frankly wasnt that good in the first place), Good lord, when I did rephrase the question to a 'better ' one you didn't like that and demanded I return to the original question! This is like, PhD level time wasting, I think we're done here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 08:02 PM
6	In your ideal world, who should the hot (specifically talking about the hot ones here) girls be getting with? Make no mistake I'm arguing against you but I like to be as clear as possible in arguments, rather than getting bogged down in endless bullshit. You say "make a thread and I'll answer" I go "ok maybe this will actually move the conversation forward" I've gathered enough from your posts now to get more of a perspective on what you're coming from, i.e you're coming at it from a more trad conservative view than some redpillers, so in your ideal world people would pair up as early as possible. I dis…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 07:29 PM
2	In your ideal world, who should the hot (specifically talking about the hot ones here) girls be getting with? I mean what's the "no FAs" post and how does the OP relate to it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 07:08 PM
11	In your ideal world, who should the hot (specifically talking about the hot ones here) girls be getting with? No one forced me to do anything, I was extending the good will that maybe you wanted to answer more thoroughly in a new thread. Instead it turns out it was just a weird ploy to waste time for some reason. Oh well, live and learn I guess.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 07:07 PM
10	In your ideal world, who should the hot (specifically talking about the hot ones here) girls be getting with? Your post is full of cryptic neologisms to the point where I can't parse it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 07:03 PM
3	In your ideal world, who should the hot (specifically talking about the hot ones here) girls be getting with? equally among whom?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 06:57 PM
17	In your ideal world, who should the hot (specifically talking about the hot ones here) girls be getting with? I am just amazed I was able to goad him into making a new thread lol. you: I tediously refuse to answer this basic question until you make a thread me * makes a thread, it takes 3 seconds * you: lol so troled Is this really what we're dealing with here?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 06:55 PM
2	Archetypal Alpha Males really do exist - TRP is not exaggerating. They have their pick of the top women, and concerns over Cock Carousel is entirely justified. It is plausible and reasonably probable that your 'nice girl' stock type LTR has a higher N-count than you, and that she may have slept with more attractive men than you. "Reasonably probable" is a more sensible claim that "most likely" at least, but its still less than even odds as to whether a random person is above average. and that she may have slept with more attractive men than you. Although it's relatively unlikely to happen to you, a high enough % of women are willing to cheat for a form…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 06:19 PM
5	In your ideal world, who should the hot (specifically talking about the hot ones here) girls be getting with? So for example, hot girls might match with hot guys?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 06:15 PM
2	Archetypal Alpha Males really do exist - TRP is not exaggerating. They have their pick of the top women, and concerns over Cock Carousel is entirely justified. So, it seems to me like you are misrepresenting information the source that you provide. The source does not differentiate all that much between sex in relationships and casual sex, nor does it really define it. So it's very difficult for you to claim that its just casual sex. You're not explaining why that matters if the sex is casual or in relationships (which is somewhat meaningless anyway as many relationships may be ambiguous or short lived). The number of partners accumulated is the import…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 05:58 PM
2	Archetypal Alpha Males really do exist - TRP is not exaggerating. They have their pick of the top women, and concerns over Cock Carousel is entirely justified. Your original question in your own words: Yeah, thats my question, Are you gonna answer it? If the current situation is rampant, troubling hypergamy, what would the ideal, non-hypergamous situation look like? Okay so now you are just ignoring my point on casual sex and how that article doesnt talk about. So I guess you'll just keep ignoring my point and pointing to something else. What is your point? Why does your hair splitting matter? You're not explaining your arguments at all even when I pro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 05:26 PM
1	Archetypal Alpha Males really do exist - TRP is not exaggerating. They have their pick of the top women, and concerns over Cock Carousel is entirely justified. Lol, not at all. I welcome discussion on it. Go ahead and create a new thread. Say that you dont think rabid female hypergamy is a bad thing, and that it is not affecting the family unit. This is what I'm trying to get you to explain, what is rabid female hypergamy? How is that defined? How rabid is it? Because your OP is an incredibly poorly argued rant and you haven't made a case for it. So I asked a simple question to better clarify: what would we expect a hypothetical non-rapid-hypergamous s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 04:58 PM
2	Archetypal Alpha Males really do exist - TRP is not exaggerating. They have their pick of the top women, and concerns over Cock Carousel is entirely justified. I made statement, nothing more. Any other interpretation of complaining is pretty much your opinion, based on what it seems to be, assumptions. You "concerns over Cock Carousel is entirely justified." Everyone else "whats so concerning to you?" You: "I dont have to explain myself!" If you were at all confident in what you saying you would welcome discussion on it, the fact that you're backing into pleading the fifth "I don't have to say anything more!" suggests that it doesen't stand up to scrut…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 04:34 PM
1	Archetypal Alpha Males really do exist - TRP is not exaggerating. They have their pick of the top women, and concerns over Cock Carousel is entirely justified. Don't derail the thread. Because that's what your doing. This isn't about my ideal world. It's about my observations. Perhaps in another post I will detail my ideal world If you complain about something as a "concerning" situation then it makes sense to explain what would be a non-concerning situation. Otherwise its not clear whats concerning about it - you're just ranting without purpose, like complaining that it rains or something. Everyone just looks at you and shrugs, "Well whats your desire…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 04:13 PM
1	Women of PPD...how often do you get approached by men? For the next questions, I only count approaches when you're in public. If you're at work, or in a social setting where it's easier to approach you for some reason then that doesn't count. But you can count any approaches at all. Does that include bars and clubs?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 03:59 PM
6	Is there anything wrong with being insecure of a girl's past? For me, I know that if I date a girl that hasn't fucked a lot of great lovers, than she is going to be far more appreciative of me. Conversely though, they could be anxious about what they're missing. Thats one of the common anxieties that drives a lot of people who coupled up young towards breaking up "I like my SO...but...I've barely gotten with anyone else, how do I know?" You're assuming that someone who hasn't had a lot of sex is going to be more inherently amazed and appreciative of the se…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 02:07 PM
1	Archetypal Alpha Males really do exist - TRP is not exaggerating. They have their pick of the top women, and concerns over Cock Carousel is entirely justified. http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/resources/FAQ.html	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 01:38 AM
8	Archetypal Alpha Males really do exist - TRP is not exaggerating. They have their pick of the top women, and concerns over Cock Carousel is entirely justified. OP said hot girls, but it's average girls getting with Chads as well. And indeed, cheating on partners for Chads, ostensibly out of their league. Chad sounds like a busy guy, fucking literally every woman on the planet. He doesen't sound like he has much standards either. You are aware that the average number of sexual partners in a lifetime is around 7 right? (yes both men and women lie on surveys, but assuming the truth is somewhere in between the two lies its around that number) If you think …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 01:21 AM
6	Archetypal Alpha Males really do exist - TRP is not exaggerating. They have their pick of the top women, and concerns over Cock Carousel is entirely justified. What kind of question is this? What kind of conclusion do you want to come to? So you want me to admit that they arent going to get with hot guys? Okay? And? How does this defeat my argument in any sort of way? Don't be obtuse, its a simple question. In your ideal world, who should the hot(remember, were specifically talking about the hot ones here) girls be getting with? So you want me to admit that they arent going to get with hot guys? Am I correct in interpreting that you're saying that in y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 12:50 AM
8	Archetypal Alpha Males really do exist - TRP is not exaggerating. They have their pick of the top women, and concerns over Cock Carousel is entirely justified. Combine that and you have women spending their prime years chasing after mega-alphas in funnels like Instagram and Tinder. So? I bolded the word hot in your post for a reason, because you kept saying it, hot girls. So I asked you and you haven't answered yet: who do you suppose hot girls should be getting with if not hot guys? Who the hell else are the 9/10s gonna get with except 9/10 dudes? How is that beta or settling Alpha dude gonna feel when he snoops on his Fiance's F list and sees Chad th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 12:26 AM
1	Archetypal Alpha Males really do exist - TRP is not exaggerating. They have their pick of the top women, and concerns over Cock Carousel is entirely justified. Thats not what I asked.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 12:13 AM
8	Archetypal Alpha Males really do exist - TRP is not exaggerating. They have their pick of the top women, and concerns over Cock Carousel is entirely justified. In your example though I have a couple of hot girls on my friends list. Every single one of them are friends with them. Look at their friends list. Tons and tons of hot girls (now going out with lesser men since we're years out of college). All these hot girls are only banging this "1%" dude. Its him who's racking up his notches to the stratosphere. Its it criticism of this guy having too much sex, of the women having too much sex, or a criticism that they're having sex with the "wrong" person?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/15 12:10 AM
13	Archetypal Alpha Males really do exist - TRP is not exaggerating. They have their pick of the top women, and concerns over Cock Carousel is entirely justified. These guys are male models. They are top 1% genetics. Juicing. They go to Equinox in NY. You can't compete with them. I have a couple of hot girls on my friends list. Every single one of them are friends with them. Look at their friends list. Tons and tons of hot girls (now going out with lesser men since we're years out of college). Yes, it doesn't mean they are So the hot girls you know are getting with hot guys. And they're having (gasp) casual sex. Who should they be getting with? In your id…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/15 11:08 PM
2	CMV: TRP probably works more with confident women (contrary to orthodox bluepill claims) You're using confidence in your example in a way that seems to specifically refer to social extroversion. I get the impression the argument is referring more to attachment-style, e.g security that your partner won't cheat, approval seeking from partner ect. In this model those with the secure attachment style (high self esteem, positive thoughts towards others) would be turned off by anxious-dismissive types (high self esteem, negative thoughts towards others- the stereotypical "intimacy is for …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/15 07:05 PM
1	Obama considering assigning women selective service numbers, making women eligible for the draft Putting women in the draft might actually help in that sense. The more of the population who is eligable for it the less popular it would be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/15 02:24 AM
3	TBP: Why is "Holding Frame" seen as wrong/manipulative/abusive in your opinion? I dont really care either way tbh. BUT I want to bring up something I've noticed, the idea of "holding frame" seems to have undergone a kind of memetic evolution over there. I remember hearing about it years ago in a NLP context, the idea being that "frame" is simply the context of perceived events. Like the classic example "there are two kinds of people in the world, those who see the glass half empty and those who see it half full" both would be examples of a frame, same event, two different r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/15 01:17 AM
1	Can you argue that TRP doesn't work? literally anything else. build something, go somewhere, achieve something, fail at something. Thats what real development is. Read actual books and not just blogs. In fact, I think a lot of people trying to develop themselves end up spinning their heels by ruminating and planning on their development and their failings instead of actually doing it. Its entirely possible The nihilistic "the whole world is against you" stuff in TRP hurts more than it helps. A large chunk of what goes on there seem…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/15 06:48 PM
1	Can you argue that TRP doesn't work? Take a step back here and really think about what you are saying "but, how does anyone become an interesting and confident man without pledging allegiance to my favourite subreddit on reddit.com?"	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/15 06:08 PM
2	Which pill is my old man? It wasnt advice- he is literally pitying you and your worldview.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/15 06:16 PM
6	Can you argue that TRP doesn't work? I think that being a confident and assertive man "works". What I'm skeptical about is whether devotion to a webforum where everyone complains about women in pseudoscientific matrix analogies is the best path to become a successful and assertive man. Like, I get the appeal, and I get why guys who might have been previously unsuccessful with women get success after following its formulas. its basically "The Idiots Guide to Presenting More Masculine" But its a guide written by a bunch of bitter neo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/15 06:13 PM
3	Which pill is my old man? He's "rounded rational human being" pill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/15 06:03 PM
1	Can you argue that TRP doesn't work? I don't get the point of your story. Are you saying you didn't get with either of the girls? And your failure proves that the red pill "works" What?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/15 05:38 PM
1	CMV: Hypergamy Causes Men Not to Commit Yeah that makes sense I'm just being flippant really.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/15 05:26 PM
1	CMV: Hypergamy Causes Men Not to Commit It seems easier to just use the same scales of measurement and then just acknowledge the disparities that will arise. It seems even easier to accept that rating people on a 10 scale is an inherently subjective measurement and shouldn't be taken too seriously.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/15 02:33 PM
4	CMV: Hypergamy Causes Men Not to Commit Hear me out on this one. Now, your average "Chad" aka the gifted athlete, frat star, popular dude can get sex with your average 5,6,7 girl. So that means that chad is a 5, 6, 7 Despite his self assessed value, Chad is obviously not an 8-9, because who are the 8-9 women dating if not him? Answer: 8-9 dudes. Same goes for Joe Schmoe, the average 5-6/10 man. he can pull, as long as he doesn't mind fishing on Tinder for a chick who might be overweight, ugly, etc. So that means that Joe is a 5-6, who…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/15 02:30 PM
3	CMV: Hypergamy Causes Men Not to Commit How can you have market value in isolation? An items market value is "what it can get on the open market".	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/15 02:20 PM
1	CMV: Hypergamy Causes Men Not to Commit If we determine SMV by ability to get casual sex, women's SMV overall would be much higher than men's. Who they can pull, not "how many". Each suitor should be treated as a discrete "offer", not cumulative. Heres a hypothetical. I want to sell an item. 10 people approach me watch with offers of $20. What is the market value of the item? a)$20 b)$200	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/15 02:20 PM
1	CMV: Most BPer's are sexually reserved and do not desire casual sex, therefore have a hard time sympathizing with RP. My view is that, BP has a hard time understanding / sympathizing with RP backgrounds because they don't really experience the sexual frustration that pre-RP males do. I'm a young-ish male who enjoys casual sex. I've experienced sexual frustration. I empathise entirely with what drives people to TRP. Its the very fact that as a male, its an ideology made up of exactly the things I would want to hear (That the world is holding me down. I'm fundamentally better than women in important ways. If I'm …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/15 01:10 PM
2	Thought experiment for BP: If Elliot Rogers and that Oregon guy got unlimited access to pussy, do you honestly believe they'd still shoot up places? This is such a bizarre line of logic because its not even consistent with TRPs fundamental premises. The existence of an ethological heirachy- "Alphas" implies the existence of someone at the bottom. The omega, the ape no one wants to fuck because it's dysfunctional, weak and offers nothing to the group. Now you're assuming that this male wouldn't exist with feminism? An invention of the last 50 years? That presumes that pre modern culture was some kind of more communistic, sex free for all wher…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/15 09:35 AM
1	The validity of The Red Pill as an objective science In chimpanzee society, being an alpha has as much to do with a males ability to coexist socially as it does being strong. Apes become alpha through strength often, but also intelligence, allies and social manoeuvring. Apes spend at least as much time grooming each other as they do fighting. Being "unapologetic" as red pillers espouse strikes me as a very modern, late capitalist idea, something only really possible now we live in extremely large faceless societies that make a more independent lif…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/15 01:47 AM
10	Thought experiment for BP: If Elliot Rogers and that Oregon guy got unlimited access to pussy, do you honestly believe they'd still shoot up places? I skimmed his manifesto again, I forgot that his backup plan was to win the lottery. It sent him into a crushing rage the week when he didn't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/15 10:28 PM
6	Thought experiment for BP: If Elliot Rogers and that Oregon guy got unlimited access to pussy, do you honestly believe they'd still shoot up places? Who took it away from him?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/15 07:27 PM
19	Thought experiment for BP: If Elliot Rogers and that Oregon guy got unlimited access to pussy, do you honestly believe they'd still shoot up places? Elliots dad was a movie producer who did in fact get him "cool older guy" contacts to hang around and try and help him out. If you read Elliots manifesto and think of him as the victim of women or skateboarding or anything else you are taking the exact wrong lesson from it. You cant escape a victim complex while still believing you are but a poor victim of feminism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/15 07:26 PM
41	Thought experiment for BP: If Elliot Rogers and that Oregon guy got unlimited access to pussy, do you honestly believe they'd still shoot up places? I read Elliot Rogers manifesto. There was a bit which stuck out to me: When he was 10 years old he got a skateboard and wanted to be a pro skateboarder, he saw another kid doing skateboard tricks that were better than him and he threw it away. The fact that other kids were better than him at it destroyed him. What a cruel world! The motherfucker was still harbouring grudges from when he was 10 about skateboards. And using this to prop up his victim complex, along with all the other grievances he…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/15 07:02 PM