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Debateunhingedtherapist254/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:08 PM
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And who's fault is that? These are not societal sanctioned punishments, huge difference. Y'all need to take that up with God or biology or nature or whatever is responsible for us being here at some point
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:43 AM
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You don't think it's despicable that she wants to ruin my life??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:27 AM
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What about the potential victim of enforced child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:21 AM
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Lol, nice try. I'm actually dealing with a personal issue which is why I'm so annoyed. I asked my gf to get an abortion and she said no, I told her I wanted no part of it, and she's threatening to take me to court over child support. I don't have any reasonable recourse, except to bend to her will, unless I can find someway to get rid of the baby, with or without her consent
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:19 AM
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End of story. Tough luck, suck it up. Not your body, not your choice. You see now. Abortion bans definitely even the playing field. The CHILD deserves support, once born, regardless of either parents' choices. No one owes the child anything, save for the individual that thought it was a good idea to bring it into this world, even when their partner wanted no part of it and made it clear men were the ones pregnant, it would be their choice. It's their money being garnished. Would you rather they …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:14 AM
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Plenty also don’t believe in abortion or don’t feel comfortable doing it or decide that they can’t care for the child If the mother feels her beliefs and desires were more important, is it really bad to expect her to be responsible for the results of those personal desires and beliefs?? I just believe that men are responsible for their children too. That they consented to bringing into this world. That's key. But if men are going to not want to be responsible for anything, then that really means…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:10 AM
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That's why I flared this post as a debate, because they're my own personal opinions duhh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:00 AM
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You assumed those positive obligations by virtue of the fact of the existence of another person who did not consent to Can't the same argument hold true for pregnancy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:59 PM
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gets no choice. Period. If he gets no choice, his money should not be involved later on, unless you want men to start sleeping abortion pills in women's drinks now🙄 has the right to be supported by both parents If a child is unwanted, they should be considered to have only the parent that wanted them. Or we can start CS from the moment of conception? Make the father 50% responsible for prenatal care? Either/ or. I would be in favour of this, if it meant that the man's financial responsibilities …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:57 PM
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Sure but that doesn’t mean they always want to parent the child or have physical custody. That's what abortion is for🙄 why birth a child that you know is clearly unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:51 PM
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Yes. Atleast when both are forced to do something they don't want, it feels fair
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:49 PM
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With banned abortion, all this means is more men are gonna become fathers. So enjoy. Atleast abortion bans equalize the playing field. Either both are forced to be parents or they both get options to evade parental responsibility, namely abortion and paper abortions. don't want men to be responsible for kids he cheated Kids birthed against his will? Oh no, I only believe they should be held responsible for kids they consented to bringing into this world
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:48 PM
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Once it is born then it must be cared for yes Even if it violates bodily autonomy, like a parent being compelled to use their hands to feed, bath and nurture the child? You never have to use your blood or body to keep it alive But you have to use your hands to keep it alive. The only difference is the location of the organs. Literally body parts versus responsibility to providing via money and resources that are not body parts. Feeding involves the use of body organs bio parents both have to pay…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:31 PM
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If a man doesn't want to be responsible for a child, he can keep it in his pants or wrap it up. Are you a prolifer? Men have choices. They choose to have sex without protection, they deal with the consequences. Another prolife argument. Interesting... Don't have sex if you're not ready to care for a child that results from unprotected sex. Atleast you are consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:27 PM
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abortion ban takes away options So does enforced child support. Do you not see this?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:21 PM
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financially responsible like women are :) Women are held responsible, because the decision to bring the child into the world is usually theirs. So it makes sense. What doesn't make sense however, is forcing a mm to pay for something he never consented to and made it clear that he didn't want. But the woman being stubborn, thought it was a good idea to bring forth an unwanted child, like what🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:18 PM
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Where has anyone’s cause of death been child support as the direct cause of death in the same way that this abortion ban has caused deaths Child support requires money, money that sometimes involves working a dangerous job, perhaps he wouldn't he working the same job if it weren't for the child support. on to say that the abortion ban is killing women Forced child support is killing men, through suicide, depression and what not. Get rid of enforced child support and maybe ppl will see the point …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:15 PM
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If men don't wanna be dad's they don't gonna be making them. When u naturally aren't the gender who has children, you just aren't going to have as much of the say because the child is not in ur body. Her body her choice, his wallet his choice. Atleast we can agree on that. Why can't u answer the question? All u are doing is shifting the blame for what a man doesnt want. Just showing you how ridiculous the question is. It's a baby, not a clump of cells This is your subjective opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:11 PM
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Can you die from child support ? Take a look at the stats on work related deaths then come back to me. There are bad people everywhere and people who try to manipulate the system especially as far as child support goes but women are dying because of this I don't understand the point of this additional information
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:09 PM
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someone bc then it is legally born and not using someone else to survive directly by their body. Ofcourse it is. If left to its own devices ofcourse it will die. Did you not see the case of the mother who was sentenced to life in prison because she went to have fun and left her baby at home, and it died
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:58 PM
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Why are men having sex if they don't wanna be a dad? Why are women having sex if they don't want to be mothers? Why don't women get their tubes tied? So a man isn't forced to be a dad when he chose to make a kid of men dont want to be fathers why don't men get vasectomies? A clump of cells at conception is the only thing the man is responsible for. Hope this helps
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:55 PM
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exists, it exists because of the choices made by both parents to act to bring it into existence. A fetus is not a child. The man is only responsible for the existence of a clump of cells, the baby is entirely the woman's fault, especially considering abortion exists. Your obligations to support someone you caused to exist don’t depend on anyone else’s choices. They belong to the child. Isn't this a prolife argument???
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:52 PM
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The woman who keeps the baby is also on the hook for paying for it Because she birthed it duhh. Even when she knew it was unwanted. She should be held responsible. If you don't want someone using your body they cannot But parents get arrested if they refused to use their body to feed their babies. Kids get sent to foster care if they have no one to care for them. Bc Amy body cam care for them once they aren't using someone's organs. In a world where foster care didn't exist, don't you think pare…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:50 PM
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The woman who keeps the baby is also on the hook for paying for it Because she birthed it duhh. Even when she knew it was unwanted. She should be held responsible. If you don't want someone using your body they cannot But parents get arrested if they refused to use their body to feed their babies. Kids get sent to foster care if they have no one to care for them. Bc Amy body cam care for them once they aren't using someone's organs. In a world where foster care didn't exist, don't you think pare…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:50 PM
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And who's fault is that? Isn't this the fault of the birther who thought it was a good idea to bring forth an unwanted child?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:45 PM
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If a man is raped or a woman steals sperm from a used condom and impregnates herself, that man did not make that decision. Why should we not treat this as the equivalent of a man saying the kids were born against his will hence he did not make the decision? No I’m saying that paying child support is a possible consequence of making the decision to deposit your sperm inside a woman. So you're making a prolife argument, that consent to sex is consent to pregnancy/parental obligations?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:43 PM
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The child was mutually agreed upon—you both acted to create the child. The pillar of the proc-hoice movement rests on the idea that consent to sex isn't consent to pregnancy or child birth. So its not agreed upon Who should do the disallowing, and by what means It should go without saying that if a woman doesn't abort an unwanted child, she has accepted sole responsibility, both personally and financially
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:39 PM
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Men have absolute control over their sperm (and if a man can prove in a court of law that a woman literally “stole” his sperm to impregnate herself then he should be off the hook). What about the child, who will pay for it? Aren't you really simply just saying without saying that child support is about punishing men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:23 PM
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So lemme get this straight, you think using internal organs is more special than using external organs? No one can force you to get a job it's still a choice. Thanks to parental neglect laws A parent can be jailed if they refused to utilize their external body organs to feed their newborn, so again is bodily autonomy really a right? Or is it just some excuse we afford women who want to dodge responsibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:21 PM
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A woman should not be allowed to birth a child that is not mutually agreed upon unless she is capable of taking care of it on her own. If the child is not mutually agreed, the default should be abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:17 PM
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The natural consequence of ejaculating inside a women is pregnancy. If you do not want to risk everything that goes along with ejaculating inside a women, then make the choice to not do that. Pregnancy != Birth. Hope this helps. When there is a lack of financial support by either parent, it falls on the rest of us, especially men, to fund other men’s cast offs. Why the fuck should working men have to contribute to YOUR offspring through taxes when you are perfectly capable of working and support…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:16 PM
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The natural consequence of ejaculating inside a women is pregnancy. If you do not want to risk everything that goes along with ejaculating inside a women, then make the choice to not do that. Pregnancy != Birth. Hope this helps. When there is a lack of financial support by either parent, it falls on the rest of us, especially men, to fund other men’s cast offs. Why the fuck should working men have to contribute to YOUR offspring through taxes when you are perfectly capable of working and support…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:16 PM
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You're basically taking the radfem men exclusionary view. The law currently views each parent as equal. If it did, abortion would not be allowed when it is a unilateral decision. Why should men get custody of their kids? (something many of you give lip service to being upset about) All men are are sperm donors after all, even if they wanted the child, they ultimately didn't decide to birth it. They both owe it nothing and have zero rights to it. A man should only be responsible for a child and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:11 PM
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So I'm guessing you're anti abortion and pro enforced chil support. Atleast that position makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:08 PM
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No one has a right to impose a medical procedure on anyone else. No on should have the right to financially enslave someone else because they refused a necessary Medical procedure
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:06 PM
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Paying child support doesn’t come close to that. You should take a look at the stats on work related deaths. Getting money to pay child support is a risky affair
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:05 PM
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And it was her decision to bring a kid in the world instead of aborting it considering it's unwanted. She should be held responsible especially if she had this information before the abortion window closed
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:03 PM
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And women control if a new person gets to use their body to survive or not bc it's directly using their body. You don't think getting money for child support involves the use of ones body??
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:01 PM
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The same arguments against paper abortions like the ones you're proposing are also regularly used by prolifers against abortion
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:00 PM
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Pregnancy can kill, maim, or cause irreversible damage, which is why abortion exists as an option to preserve a woman’s health and autonomy. I love how we're pretending like this is the reason why women are getting abortions. The number one reason for abortion in most parts of the world is to escape Caring for a kid wen one is not ready. If we can agree on this, them I think you can understand why paper abortions are also necessary If you want to talk about fairness, start by acknowledging that …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:58 PM
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If a woman births a child against the man's wishes, it's only fair that she is held liable for it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:49 PM
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More men have died at work than women have died in labour. So no financial obligations, are risky
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:47 PM
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No "choices" are being taken away from men, they never had this choice to begin with We should normalize men slipping in abortion pills In their pregnant gf's drink if they don't want to pay child support then since y'all aren't interested in fairness at all
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:46 PM
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Where she stands is irrelevant. If she wanted the baby, she should be free to birth it, and take care of it herself
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:44 PM
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Which is why I hold the position that if a child is not mutually agreed upon, the default option should be abortion otherwise the partner that wants it should pay for it, both personally and financially
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:43 PM
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Which is why I hold the position that if a child is not mutually agreed upon, the default option should be abortion otherwise the partner that wants it should pay for it, both personally and financially
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:42 PM
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I think if it's okay for a woman to kill an unborn child then it should be okay for a man to abandon it both personally and financially that is fair
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:41 PM
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Kids that were birthed against your will? Kids that can also be aborted against your will? Fuck no. Which is why I hold the position that if a child is not mutually agreed upon, the default option should be abortion otherwise the partner that wants it should pay for it, both personally and financially
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:40 PM
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He's not a victim if the sex was consensual. He owes his child financial help because he created them, that's it. If a woman leaves her child with the father, then she should pay child support too. In this sense it is equal, there's just more cases where the woman raises a child alone. She's not a victim If the sex was consensual. She owes the fetus her womb because she helped create them. There I fixed it for you. All the arguments in support of forced child support can also apply to forced ges…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:38 PM
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Can't the same be argued for child support tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:35 PM
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Which is why I hold the position that if a child is not mutually agreed upon, the default option should be abortion otherwise the partner that wants it should pay for it, both personally and financially
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:35 PM
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Because she thought it was a good idea to bring forth an unwanted child. She should pay for it, both personally and financially. That is fair. Unilateral decisions come with unilateral consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:33 PM
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If this logic can not be used against abortion, it should be used against a man either
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:32 PM
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If this logic can not be used against abortion, it should not be used against a man either
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:32 PM
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I don’t know what this means It means the birther is entirely at fault for bringing an unwanted child into the world. Giving birth at the end of a successful pregnancy is a biological fact We have abortion to take care of unwanted children. She should be held responsible if she was the only one who wanted and chose to birth the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:31 PM
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But the father also gets to decide if he wants to be a parent. If that were true, it would be legal fo him to force the woman to have an abortion. hook for child support A child that she choose to birth? That makes perfect sense. The man is being forced to pay for a child who's birth he never agreed to. Huge difference She gets an extra point of option when the pregnancy begins only because she is the one who has to carry the child. If the man is the one to pay child support, shouldn't he get an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:27 PM
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Once a child exists The birther should be held responsible for birthing an unwanted child.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:23 PM
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You can't cry self defense after you start shit
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:05 PM
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Why do feminists only entertain the idea of choice when it comes to women? This is the problem with the whole bodily autonomy argument, you're saying it's a 100% your choice, but you're distributing the consequences of your choice afterwards when it is convenient. The ratio of choice to cost should always be 1:1. You choose x, you pay for x. Not 0.5x. The fact is, a woman's legal right to an abortion creates a situation in which the mother had the ability/right to determine whether or not she wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:55 PM
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The man shouldn’t be able to avoid accountability for his actions just because he is too much of a coward to take responsibility for raising the child. That's what abortion is for, to make sure no unwanted child is born. If the father wanted no part of it, and expressed it to the mother, and the mother decided she wanted to keep the baby anyways then she was the only one who decided to have a baby, and it should follow that she is the only one who should support the kid unless other parties want…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:52 PM
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She didn't think of that before having sex??
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:48 PM
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Yes, but the fault mostly lies on the partner that thought it was ok to birth an unwanted child
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:34 PM
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It takes two to make a child. It is both parties’ fault. Lol not really. A fetus is not a child. The unwanted child being born is ultimately the woman's fault for refusing to abort it before it's born
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:30 PM
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Both parents should Nope the man is only responsible for the clump of cells, the child being born is ultimately the woman's fault and she should be held responsible for it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:29 PM
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And who's fault Is that? Isn't it the birther's fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:27 PM
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There is no way the people in a developed nation are going to let children starve. The state will always step in, and that's a reality that cannot be ignored. If you remove the societal support, maybe the birthers will start making reasonable choices. Instead of having everyone else pick up the slack as though they were children
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:31 PM
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There is no way the people in a developed nation are going to let children starve. The state will always step in, and that's a reality that cannot be ignored. If you remove the societal support, maybe the birthers will start making reasonable choices. Instead of having everyone else pick up the slack as though they were children
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:31 PM
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It's just an excuse for men to avoid responsibility Wouldn't that hold true for abortion too?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:44 PM
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What if the one who made the decision to birth the clump of cells be made responsible for it both personally and financially?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:43 PM
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lmao why should men who aren't having sex, or only having it in context of a committed relationship, pay for your sexual escapades?? What if the one who made the decision to birth the clump of cells be made responsible for it both personally and financially?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:42 PM
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Imagine you were part of a bank heist, say you were told that you were going to rob 5 million dollars in a group of 5, then you would get your share of 1 million dollars and were perfectly happy and content with that deal, then later you come realize that it wasn't 5 million dollars, but y'all actually robbed 5 billion dollars and you only got 1 million, are you telling me you wouldn't feel enraged by that???? We all know most ppl would. These is exactly how guys feel after learning the lengths …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:41 AM
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Men value respect and fairness, not symbolic bragging rights.You’re oversimplifying male preferences as some shallow “toddler toy” competitiveness. But men don’t care about anal, virginity, or other symbolic gestures in isolation, they care about what those things represent: respect, exclusivity, and fairness in the relationship. When a man finds out that a woman gave more to another man (whether it’s anal, emotional effort, or sacrifices), it’s not about "proving" he’s better. It’s about realiz…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:40 AM
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If your partner treats you well and makes you feel loved, respected, and cared for, why do you need to delve into their past relationships to see if someone got more? Imagine you were part of a bank heist, say you were told that you were going to rob 5 million dollars in a group of 5, then you would get your share of 1 million dollars and were perfectly happy and content with that deal, then later you come realize that it wasn't 5 million dollars, but y'all actually robbed 5 billion dollars and …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:43 AM
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The average young woman simply has too many options (including being alone) to even think about staying in relationship in which we are not getting love and romance, regardless of what he’s done for his ex or not. We So essentially women in abusive relationships are not victims? They chose those situations. Ah got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:34 AM
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For example, when the guy doesn’t really care about anal either way, and if he dates a woman who never ever did anal and never wants it, he’s perfectly happy… but if she ever did anal in the past with some other guy, then RAGE HOW DARE SHE DO THAT WITH HIM BUT NOT ME! Like… you said you don’t care about anal, but now you hate her based on the exact same treatment you claim you’re happy with with the anal-virgin. Why? And shouldn’t any woman who might want to date you but doesn’t want anal be wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:14 AM
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Is this a troll post? Not really no. What makes you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:27 PM
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Do you think most women are nasty now Sadly yeah Or do you think it's maybe just easier to come across nasty peoplle online because the quiet ones are just at home being quiet? Oddly enough, it's the shy quiet ones that are consuming this eroticas
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:25 PM
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I suppose, they seemed more like the exception to the rule
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:12 PM
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I'm not saying women are evil. I'm simply arguing that the Bluepilled world view teaches men to dehumanize women while the Redpill exposes them as the flawed humans they are
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:37 AM
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It's a typo
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:25 AM
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I'm not surprised by your response considering you're a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:23 AM
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Lol, where did you get that from. I'm as far removed from being a decent person as could possibly be. I'm a huge fan of manipulation and all sorts of morally questionable things. So no, I wouldn't call myself a nice guy. Most people who've had the pleasure to know, probably leave having every sense of who they were as a person shaken to it's foundation
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:33 PM
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No good guy is getting off on reenacting patriarchal violence
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 06:59 PM
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If you can't enjoy sex without adding in a some creepy shit, therapy might be worth considering
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 06:40 PM
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CNC and bdsm is simply just recreating patriarchal violence and trying to put a positive spin on it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 06:34 PM
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CNC isn't really disrespectful, you are not crossing any real boundaries CNC is just recreating patriarchal violence and trying to put a positive spin on it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 06:31 PM
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So why not be bad, and enjoy the decline 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 06:29 PM
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Can you kick a puppy after deciding it's cute? Lol, humans are wired to be gentle with things that they love
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:57 PM
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The good guys I know do just fine when it comes to dating Idk about this, I've read way too many stories and confessions of women having trouble staying attracted to their good partners and being tempted to cheat with their yoga or gymn instructor
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:52 PM
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But “nice guys” have no moral dilemma with CNC, they have no issue with domination. You should visit the kink, confession, and relationship advice subs more often then. Here’s where the good guys often fumble: they buy into the same societal conditioning. Many good guys unconsciously treat women like fragile ornaments, assuming that being overly gentle, polite, and deferential is the way to win their hearts. But this approach often backfires in the bedroom (or even before). Good guys" don’t fail…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:42 PM
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But “nice guys” have no moral dilemma with CNC, they have no issue with domination. They don’t have a stronger moral framework than “chad” or the “bad guys”. Most of the “nice guys” I’ve met are not respectful, gentle, or considerate of women’s feelings. They are respectful and gentle until it doesn’t get them what they want from a woman. They are not worried about any mold When I use nice guys, I'm not talking about the ppd made up version of nice guys. I'm talking about your stereotypical door…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:37 PM
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You put way too much thought into it. I mean, Did I? Just think about it. Women subconsciously associate bad men with the ability to indulge the darker, more chaotic side of their sexuality, something a "good guy" might not intuitively understand or be willing to embrace. Look closely at the characters women fantasize about: the rogue, the rule-breaker, the man who takes what he wants without asking for permission. These aren’t the traits of the safe, vanilla, “good guy” archetype. They’re the h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:30 PM
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Well, you’ve got a point—nobody’s flashing their kinks on their Tinder profiles. But when I talk about owning it, I mean that confidence to embrace all aspects of who you are, whether that’s being the sweet guy who holds doors open or the dominant figure in the bedroom. It’s not about showing off your kinks in public, but about not apologizing for them or pretending they don't exist. 'Nice Guys' fail because they suppress their own desires, often out of fear that they don’t fit this ‘perfect’ mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:18 PM
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Yeah, there’s no ‘nice guy’ research per se, but the dynamics play out daily in dating culture. You’re seriously oversimplifying things if you think bedroom dynamics are completely unrelated to relationship dynamics. A lot of the things women enjoy in fiction or fantasy do reflect what they find attractive in real life, even if they’re not literally looking for an incestuous relationship (which, really, is a bit of a leap in your analogy). Women don’t want ‘safe’ all the time, especially when it…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:13 PM
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What's funny babygirl 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:03 PM
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let’s be real—nice guys might have those kinks, but do they own them? Probably not. They’re too busy second-guessing themselves because society drilled into them that anything remotely aggressive or dominant is ‘disrespectful.’ Meanwhile, Chad over there doesn’t give a damn about moral conditioning and just leans into the vibe. That hesitation they’re downplaying? It’s a chemistry killer. Women might say they want a respectful, considerate guy, but if he’s overthinking everything in the moment, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:02 PM
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Whats garbage about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 04:55 PM
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Is that what you took away from the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 04:49 PM
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What do you mean typing something like this out?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 04:49 PM
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Women who claim that most men irl don't care about bodycount are literally lying. I've witnessed progressive guys loose sympathy for an SA victim simply after learning details about her. It's almost like on a subconscious level, they thought that rape was less wrong and a more appropriate fate for a woman whose sexual and moral conduct they disagree with
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 12:19 PM
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And you're likely not going to get a straight answer. How would you determine someone's body count. Just curious. The trick? I never commit, I never talk about past negatively, never bring any form of exclusivity, before the girl does, and I never show insecurity about past partners and all that. I let her talk, let her open up first, I let her put her emotions on the table. And when she does, I never ask "how many", "how much" and stuff like that. Short answers, short questions, I simply let he…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 10:39 AM
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And you're likely not going to get a straight answer. How would you determine someone's body count. Just curious. It's never easy to know the exact number(not that concerned with the exact number), but I can just tell, absolutely. Some women may come up clean early on, some of them may give "hints", but they all give me some sort of clues about who they are. I just keenly listen to them and pay attention. Dead give away signs are: Has tattoos, drinks, is a party girl, has many guy friends, pierc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 10:36 AM
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And you're likely not going to get a straight answer. How would you determine someone's body count. Just curious. You will if you're smart about it... I try befriending her close friends, women tend to share a lot of their sexcapades with their friends, it's a bit insidious but I've found that it's the most effective one. Once I've established friendships with them, investigate the type of man their friends likes/are into, and try presenting myself as the ideal guy to try create some rift, lucki…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 10:34 AM
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And you're likely not going to get a straight answer. How would you determine someone's body count. Just curious. Second, I slip in casual questions here and there. Never overt questions, things like "what's the freakiest shit she's ever done", "whether she's ever had a fwb.", "whether she's ever used a dating app." After a while, I'm able to piece together some parts of the the puzzle. Third, I get her to talk about each other's past dating experiences as if we were close friends, preferrably w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 10:30 AM
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And you're likely not going to get a straight answer. How would you determine someone's body count. Just curious. A good way I go with to get a more honest answer is I feign like I don't care. I learnt a long time ago that of you feign like you're sex-positive then they'll give an honest answer. You just have to play that zero judgement guy role down to a tee. What I'm saying is I don't give her any inclination that I will judge her. People ultimately want to be themselves. So if you create a si…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 10:28 AM
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It just sounds like you have an issue with your partner ever finding anyone other than you attractive enough to be interested in them. Not really. Considering I don't have issue with her having multiple ex boyfriends. Tell me honestly, are you the type who would not go for it if, at a time when you are single, someone you found attractive showed interest in you and willingness to have sex with you? I have, I just hold my partners to a different standard. I don't it's that wrong to do so. If the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:26 PM
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All I know is if it were in a man's control, most guys would rather not have their special lady be some other guy's slut for the night. There's just something so off-putting about knowing another man considered your gf like a piece of meat to just fuck and discard
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:57 AM
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The issue isn't fucking someone else. The issue is her sleeping casually with someone else. Most guys know how other guy's think. And its an ego and self esteem killer knowing that some other man is out there probably laughing in amusement at how you put a ring on that finger when he basically hit it without effort lol. It's not a pleasant feeling
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:10 AM
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Only on Reddit have I seen men as obsessed with this. In real life it has literally never been a problem for me that I have had casual sex and is considered normal where I live. My husband didn’t wait until a committed relationship to have sex with me, either. These days I am sure he spends more time enjoying our waterfront mountain view or getting his dick sucked than worrying about some sex I had 20 years ago. Sometimes I wonder whether some women live under a rock or something. I'm fairly cer…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:02 AM
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For the sake of argument let's assume that man's status in society is influenced by the type of woman he chooses to marry, and let's also say that if she has a reputation that type of thing affects how ppl treat and respect him in real life. With this information in light, is it really correct to argue a woman with a colorful history of casual sex, can love and respect her partner. Doesn't her lack of consideration for how her actions could impact him, signal that maybe it's not possible for her…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:03 AM
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I'm guessing you are one of those women who used to sleep around correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:49 AM
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Sometimes I wonder why bluepillers hate on RP so much, this thread is just af/bb dresses up in flwery language. I don't for a second think a woman can love her partner and engage in casual sex at the same time, atleast not in the way that non promiscuous women can
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:47 AM
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love the man I'm going to marry I mean do you really. You don't seem to have a problem letting other guy's hit it without effort
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:44 AM
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Good for you. But as Chris rock uptly put it, the men who have exactly what women want and are attracted to are also the least likely ones to give it to them, that's why women end up with relationships they want but with men they would not prefer
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:37 AM
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Why would I want a relationship with a man I don’t want sex with?? The same reason you'd want to sleep with a man you don't want a relationship with. They both have their pros and cons
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:20 AM
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Does it ever occur to you , that men know how other men think? That's why they're like that. I think you'd be surprised, to learn that, men are more alike than they are different. Some of these just manifest differently
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:15 AM
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are talking about people already in a relationship The man has agreed to be in a romantic relationship with her Not a casual relationship Not an FWB Not a ONS A romantic relationship If he voluntarily enters into a romantic relationship with a woman, but is going to resent having to do typical relationship things then that is his fault, not hers He didn't have to have a relationship with her at all! He chose to, and then complains about the expectations he fucking signed up for If she didn't "in…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:07 AM
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He resented having to do the typical things partners do for each other in relationships, because the only reason he was doing it was for sex. And Maybe if she lived up to the male traditionally concieved perceptions of female virtue, he wouldn't feel resentful. His resentment can be pinpointed to the fact he felt he was expected to pay full price for a second hand car. And before you get all worked up about women being compared to cars, it's just an analogy. You know what an analogy is supposed …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:05 AM
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In comparison to these “cucks,” are you single and alone? Lol no, I'm very much in a serious relationship With all due respect, given your post 100 days ago about how the future of partnership is with AI partners, I don’t think you’re exactly the model for how one should judge healthy human romantic relationships… and I’m not saying that to be mean, I’m simply suggesting that perhaps you would be better served leading with curiosity instead of judgment…just some food for thought 🤷🏻‍♀️ If you hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:56 AM
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If a man actually wants a relationship with a woman, then he shouldn't complain about having to do the typical things people in relationships do for their partners Like giving them rides or planning dates with them If men see relationship behaviors as "sex tokens" they earn for "good boyfriend behavior," then they are not suitable for relationships. Period. Whatever the woman has done has nothing at all to do with that fact Maybe its the case that only a woman who carries herself a certain way i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:51 AM
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The argument isn’t that men don't really like doing relationship things, but that the incentives for commitment change when casual sex is easily accessible. If men can have the benefits of sex without the commitment, some might be less inclined to invest in long-term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:33 AM
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I don't know many men who love the idea of their special little lady being some other guy's slut for the night. The only ppl who I've seen being cool with it are cucks, that's why I figured he had esteem issues or something. Because he doesn’t mind that I lived a normal life before I met him it means he has low self esteem Idk I guess some ppl's definition of normal life is a history of relationships not sleeping around with random dudes, but hey maybe that's just me. has it means that I am trea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:16 AM
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You see, apparently what men really want is to just drain their balls and go. They don't want to talk, they don't want to care, so "relationship duties" are just extra bullshit they'd rather not have to deal with Aren't you drowning in all that unconditional love men offer women? 🥺 Men feel this specifically for women who gave it up to some other guy for free. No man will feel good investing time, energy, money into a woman whom other men didn't have to. That's the crux of it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:13 AM
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If men resent the things expected of them in relationships, and if the only thing they actually care about is having sex, then they should stop pursuing relationships with women and only pursue NSA sex. This is all men's fault, and all men's irrationality. They only resent it, when the woman in question, has a history of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:07 AM
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So the only reason men in relationships do anything at all for their partners is for sex? Like how are "I gave my s/o a ride because she didn't have a car" and "I planned dates sometimes" related to sex? I'm sure you've heard of the sex vending machine analogy, right? If all men care about is sex, and if the only reason they do anything at all is for sex, then they have no business trying to pursue women for relationships. They should only date casually or pay for it. The emotional reaction is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:06 AM
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Casual sex partners are often a representation of the AF (Alpha F*ck) category—exciting, spontaneous, maybe even a little rebellious. These are the men who make her feel desired, physically indulged, and emotionally stimulated through sheer chemistry and attraction. They represent the thrill of the chase and the excitement that many women crave, even if they can't commit to them in the long term. Do you think women don't have sex with the men they marry? Do you think women have sex more often wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:00 AM
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My husband was a virgin, and I’ve had casual sex before. I can’t say he ever wondered any of those things, I doubt it. He’s able to tell I view sex in a compatible way to him as we’ve talked about it. He knows he hasn’t had casual sex because he’s too shy for that, and he also knows I’m not shy, and he doesn’t find that to be an incompatible trait. To be fair, he never “asked a woman to marry him”, so maybe he wasn’t plagued with the same anxiety about doing that. Does he have low self esteem? T…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:50 AM
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She said she liked showing her body parts, you're gonna have excuse me if the 1st thing that came to mind was scantly dressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 11:02 PM
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But the primary factor in temperature sensitivity is not skin thickness, it’s body fat distribution, hormonal differences, and metabolic rates. So it would follow that Women do tend to feel colder than men due to lower metabolic heat production and different fat storage patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 12:19 PM
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Are you willing to make the argument that women experience temperature differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 12:08 PM
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This thread explains why people have an issue with believing women. They are Lying when they say it has nothing to do with men. I was at party the other day, and the dudes only had their arms out, all other parts of their bodies were covered, the same was not true for women. So it begs the question do women experience temperature differently
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 12:06 PM
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The question is why would a woman dress skimpily in a cold country ifs it's not for the male gaze. Why do you prefer showing skin as opposed to going for a more normal look. I was at party the other day, and guess what, the dudes only had their arms exposed. So it begs the question do women experience temperature differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 12:01 PM
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myself, I probably do it for status elevation, which makes me feel good about myself. I also dress nice when i'm alone, so idk what's that about, maybe it's the fact that it ingraines an elevated status within me ("i am beautiful all the time, even in my spare time, therefore i am of high value"). Who are the biggest consumers of female beauty?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 11:57 AM
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like to dress aesthetically pleasing. So dressing sluttily is the only way you can achieve this? I don't do it for the guys, I don't get this at all. If you don't dress for the guys, why would you go for a slutty look instead of a more classy woman look?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 11:56 AM
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So you believe that because I had sex before I ever met my partner, he should cheat on me, and that's perfectly acceptable? Yes I think if you used let other guy's hit it without any real effort or relationship, I think it's perfectly affectable if your partner cheats. It's justified in this instance
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:34 PM
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Lol. What? This doesn't make any sense. But you were a slut? Of course, I expect faithfulness from my partner. My fiancé also says yes. That's a lot of nerve for someone who used to be so easily accessible, but hey maybe that's just me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:16 PM
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If you object that strongly to casual sex, It's not that I object to casual sex, I just hold the women I'm supposed to spend the rest of my life to a higher standard. then just don't settle down with someone who's had casual sex Easier said than done, it's not like people walk around with their past histories on their heads. Why settle down with them and cheat I'd only cheat if she gave me the wrong impression from the get go so as to secure a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:16 PM
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committed relationship Personally if I found out my girl used to be a slut, loyalty is off the table
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:00 PM
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Do you expect a man to be faithful to you even though you were a slut in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:00 PM
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Okay I’m not sure in what world that is true You think all this comments about wife material/gf material are just internet noise? Believe it or not the men who have exactly what women want and are attracted to are also the least likely ones to give it to them. Men value respect from other men, that's why they fool around with sluts then pick a classy girl to settle down with, they don't have to be a church girl per se, they just have to project a certain image. I'm sure you know this to be true,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:55 PM
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No they see them as conquests, because they think they wouldn't make the same choices if they were in their shoes. From their perspective a woman choosing to sleep with them without a relationship, is a dumb move
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:54 PM
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All I know is that a lot of guys don't want to be with a woman who was some other guy's slut for the night
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:25 PM
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So a woman has to date a man the same height as her inorder to not be hypocritical??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:42 PM
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How's a short woman not wanting to date shirt men also not hypocritical? was hypocritical if we're talking about "moral values Why is moral values the only thing that makes something hypocritical in your world view? For example, if an atheist shamed atheist gals all the time and specifically looked only for religious girls to date, that would be hypocritical af. A woman who spends money like there's no tomorrow who shames men who do the same and only wants to date men who are fiscally responsibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:30 PM
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So it's wrong for a broke woman to want a wealthy man ? It's wrong for a short woman to want a tall guy? It's wrong for black girl to want a white man? It's wrong for a white woman to want a black guy?? At what point does it end?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:46 PM
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I didn't say women don't enjoy sex, I said most guys consider women the women they sleep around with as conquests
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:34 PM
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If you think that's what every guy thinks of a woman he's having casual sex with, that's your personal problem, definitely not how normal people hookup If you don't think that's how most guys think, I've got bridge to sell you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:22 PM
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I'm guessing you don't have a problem getting cheated on, In a relationship, are you poly?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:34 AM
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And for that matter a man who is also unrestricted sociosexuality will not care either I don't know where you got that from, the reason sluts chose to reform and lie about their pasts is because other male sluts don't want them, so they have to reform and try to trap some average joe
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:33 AM
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Like how hypocritical can you be? In your world view, Is someone only allowed to want things in a partner that they themselves posses?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:30 AM
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Sorry was I supposed to stay a virgin? The problem isn't that you slept with somebody, the problem us that you slept with somebody ho thought you were just a warm body to be used and discarded with. No guy is having a problem with his girl dating on the past, the ick comes from sleeping with men who thought so little of you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:28 AM
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Ladies, does it ever occur to u that would not want his special little lady to have been some other guy's slut for the night, or is it that you just don't care?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:27 AM
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Alpha males don't have time to negotiate with their woman so they can have access to sex, if you don't put out he will likely find someone who will judging by their multiple options. So you assume that they are angelic husbands who do their fair share of housework and childcare? How is this not weaponizing sex? You think sex is a reward for the man doing the dishes??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 03:03 PM
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No alpha male is going to be ranting on Reddit about a deadbedroom, they know what they want and re not afraid of going after it, they'd easily just cheat and keep it moving instead of ranting on Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:05 AM
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They usually become bitter baby mamas, because the hot guys think they deserve better than them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 01:07 AM
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Women respect the Alpha, men respect the beta
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 12:27 AM
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The AF is the easy slut
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 12:23 AM
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Sorry to break it to you, but your anecdotal experience isn’t reality, whether you like it or not. Most of us have no clue whether our mothers were “hoes” even if they were. Just scroll the r/Askfeminist sub, this discussion comes up over there regularly. So this is not just my personal anecdotes nor am I pulling it out of my ass. Just admit you didn't have a well thought counterargument
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 12:13 AM
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And it goes back to “private lives not on display” Body count is a joke, in the sense that once you’re out of high school and college settings there’s no way to verify it. It’s not even a topic that comes up in real conversations off the internet. In real life a woman who was once a hoe in one place is just a pretty stranger you’d like to get to know in another. Body count is something that is discussed by men who are young and inexperienced, AND in a controlled environment where hearsay and rum…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 12:04 AM
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What those here seem to miss is that people aren’t static. The guy here has CHANGED what he is looking for Not at all, this is something premeditated, this was always the plan. they always had a tunnel vision of what they wanted. I don't think it's a case of changing preferences. Ever heard the saying Men know what they want, I've found that saying to be mostly true
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:43 PM
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dude ever considered that you personally may just have a preference for introverts? What makes you think you can speak for all men? Aren't you guys complaining about bodycount everyday on here and disparaging promiscuous women calling them worthless and run through? I personally don't have a dog in this fight, just giving out a 3rd party perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:40 PM
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Lol, I'm not even gonna dignify this with a well thought out cogent response, because we both know you're trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:38 PM
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Then how do you explain the bodycount double standard? If what I am saying in the op was just bs? To assume he didn’t move on to another girl who also drinks and smoke it’s silly. You don’t see private lives on display typically Except a decent portion of the comments were the women talking about how they stalked the new gf and how pissed they were when they found out she was the exact opposite of them. It's why I used the shy next-door girl in the op, lol People who get left always try to make …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:37 PM
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This post was actually inspired by a TikTok with the caption, "Why don't men marry the women they drink, smoke and party with." And a lot of the women were giving out their personal anecdotes, in the comment section
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:28 PM
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Then who are the men pumping and dumping?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:22 PM
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Looks like comprehension is not your strongest suit, if you can reread the post, this time, maybe a little slowly, perhaps you'll understand it better, Instead of the strawman you just pulled
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:21 PM
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Course they do, look at the deadbedroom sub, or they fact they cheat on them or make them step fathers
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:19 PM
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She has hobbies ofcourse, perhaps things like pole dancing, yoga, attending concerts and festivals, I didn't think I had to map oy every single character trait or hobby
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:18 PM
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" But the guy knows early on which category he is looking for and if he's not ready for the "wife or girlfriend potential," he will pass up the more chaste woman because for one thing he doesn't want to be responsible for letting her down when he was only out for a short-term thing. When he's ready to look for wife/girlfriend, he knows what he's looking for and he knows absolutely that she may not be the most sexually down-for-anythin"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:14 PM
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Plz get out of that Black pill hell hole
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:11 PM
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I don't dispute that at all
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:00 PM
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Do fantasies exist in a vacuum?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:59 PM
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Care to elaborate, or even drop your two cents?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:51 PM
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What do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:50 PM
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Lol, I'm starting to think the Redpill echo chamber makes people loose brain cells
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:49 PM
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Did you date a gang member? Gang members are more likely to be bored with the shy next-door typa girl
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:43 PM
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The difference is, men typically don't think so poorly of the BB in this scenario, infact they tend to pedestalize them to the point some of them would be willing to lay their life on the line for them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:35 PM
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Not wanting to marry a promiscuous woman does not equate to thinking they are less of a human. It just means you want to project your romantic attention and effort to a woman who meets a certain criteria
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:16 PM
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Which might be very difficult to achieve with a reserved, inhibited approach. I'm guessing humans are wired to be gentle with this care for, I mean you can't kick a puppy after deciding it's cute. I remember I had this one client come in for some therapy sessions, he had this girl he used to date, turns out she was into some kinky stuff and while he personally didn't have reservations against kink, doing it with a woman he was emotionally attached to, didn't really satisfy the same urge. He had …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:55 AM
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Who’s going to ragdoll her and bring her to mindblowing orgasms? Wait your comment sort of carries this implication/vibe, that being ragdolled and fucked hard is the only way to satisfy a woman. How true is this implication, that is according to your worldview?🤔 Or am I just reading my own things into it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:41 AM
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So you need to be attracted to her exes. I suppose I can see the logic there I need to respect her exes and get why she was interested in them. If they are people I'd think lowly of, then that would just extend to the woman too, and the relationship would likely not go that far since I'd most definitely at best just offer the bare minimum
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:38 AM
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Well that depends, ideally she's not supposed to be someone who prioritizes carnal pleasure over deep intimate connections, but if she does priotize them, adjustments can be made. But If her sexual proclivities are beyond my tolerance and comfort level for someone I'm in love with, then I suppose a breakup is in order
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:36 AM
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Would you say this is the behavior of a confident and secure adult? Ofcourse it is, it's only insecure ppl who'd settle for anything other than their ideal. If I try to self-insert and put myself in her shoes, and still can't see myself dating such a guy(her ex), that's just evidence of potential incompatibility
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:27 AM
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Just because you think they are dumb, doesn't mean everyone else has to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:24 AM
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And he doesn’t do the fun, adventurous things with her he did with casual partners, thus depriving her of excitement. The only fun thing a guy could do with a woman he was only fucking would probably be partying or smoking some pot lol And he doesn’t do the fun, adventurous things with her he did with casual partners, thus depriving her of excitement. Paging Dr Freud… The kind of fun things he envisions doing with her are so much more meaningful. Things like, waking her up in the middle of the n…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:23 AM
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Well that's enough to disqualify her, because then I'd be the one settling for less. If I supposed to do right by her and treat her right, there are caveats. She has to earn it. And one of the ways she can earn that, she has to not have a history of doing things that I disaprove of. I have to look at her exes and think, damn, I get why she was into him, if I don't, that's not the ideal woman for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:07 AM
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There may well be a huge overlap in your personality and that of this rookie corner. His humor could be similar, political views, taste in music, his Myers Briggs, similar extroversion/introversion, similar taste in media, etc etc. He may just look different outwardly. Possibly but highly unlikely. Besides why do all her exes need to be similar to you anyway? What's behind that requirement? I'm not a big fan of people's preferences changing with age, I like people who have always been consistent…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:01 AM
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But old mate here can’t imagine a world where she might be seeing him because she likes him. Maybe her liking him would mean so much less because of who she dated? I galaxy of reasons she might have pursued a relationship with someone very different. That's all good and all, but anyone is free to reject anyone over anything. So he’ll trip over his own dick to fuck up a chance at happiness with his dream girl because AWALT. Maybe her history, doesn't make her his dream girl afterall🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:53 AM
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This girl can get nfl players but wants to be with you for a reason. Could be that, the NFL players are cheaters, so is settling for a lesser option hoping for loyalty
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:47 AM
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Honestly, Probably just break things off. I'm really not big on dating ppl who had exes who were the exact opposite of me, especially personality-wise. I would sooner end up cheating or have a difficult time treating them right
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:43 AM
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Just like a short woman might want a tall man, a promiscuous man can want a non-promiscuous woman, without being a misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:26 AM
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Lol, you're joking right
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:15 AM
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The most important thing is that her boundaries will be lax, more likely to be worried about pleasing him, ensure her entire body is hairless from the neck down, and she has absolutely nothing to compare him to. I think it's more so that, most guys don't want to that their special little lady was some other guy's slut for the night. This phenomenon in men only occurs in certain relationships, and what relationships are those you may ask? It occurs when a man has become emotionally bonded with a …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:01 AM
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temptation is everywhere. I don't think that's true. I think men generally approach women who appear to be easy and available for sex, and the clothing is what gives them the go ahead. A classy elegant woman is less likely to be solicited for sex, because I know men generally treat you how they perceive you to be worth
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:45 AM
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It's far much easier to avoid temptation than to resist temptation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:10 AM
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it’s just because it’s fun. Why is dancing provocatively more fun tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:04 AM
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She can dance in the house🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:02 AM
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You're acting like ppl don't cheat lol. Trusting your partner is not a rational decision it's an emotional one
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:52 AM
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I don't think they are inferior, just unwilling
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:03 PM
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It's commonly accepted for people to compromise on certain freedoms in order to keep safe. If you have a fancy car, it's a good decision to not drive through an area of town populated by gangs. You are giving up the freedom of driving in a specific area of town, but you get a major benefit of doing so, you remove the risk of being the victim of gang violence or crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:58 PM
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Breaking the cycle is too much work and they're probably too lazy and impulsive to care
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:55 PM
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She hurts him be being willing to compromise for others for others but not him
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:50 PM
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That they are predators? And are willing to take what they want even if it's at the expense of others?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:37 PM
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I mean considering how many times they get victimized, perhaps they are a little slow on the evolution front
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:16 PM
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In the example of offering to be sober friend for someone at a party, you are offering them a way to take accountability. They want to drink, they can, but there are safety precautions. Either you only drink in private with trusted people or take someone to take care of you when you're incapacitated. I'm not a huge fan of drinking, especially not that excessively, but as an adult you can choose to do it and you can take precautions to make it safe. You don't have to be that safe person for them …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:51 PM
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How about you don't make compromises for other people that you wouldn't make for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:12 PM
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Yeah perhaps you're right. But being criticized has always worked for me, and has 🐝 quite the motivator. Seems other people Don't share that world view
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:20 PM
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It's often a necessary part of the process
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:19 PM
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I dunno I guess maybe. But other ppl can only entertain your complaints for so long, before they get tired
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:58 PM
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Sure, but if they contributed to their predicament, they need to be called out, so they can self reflect
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:58 PM
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Men are not protectors, if anything they are more like predators
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:56 PM
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Okay, let's pump the brakes for a second. You're throwing a lot of psych jargon in there, but you're missing the forest for the trees. Accountability doesn't have to be this super delicate, post-trauma “therapy session” thing that only professionals can handle. At some point, everyone has to take a hard look at their choices, especially if they keep ending up in the same types of situations over and over again. You say victims are "fully aware" of their situation, yet they keep going back or put…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:34 PM
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Why would she? She knows very well the number of men who'd be down for that is Pretty far in between. It's the same reason women keep their sexual history under wraps because they know certain knowledge will influence how a man will treat her in a relationship, that's why women have sexual hangups. The guys who are willing to give them that are also the ones least likely to be decent partners
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:32 PM
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And there you ave your answer
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:15 PM
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But why feel guilt about fucking someone It's not the sex, it's the kind of sex. Some sexual acts are hard to satisfy with a woman you're emotionally attached to, it wouldn't really satisfy the same urge. Thinking you’re doing something bad to a woman by fucking her good or her fucking you good is so delusional. It’s the opposite You don't want to cum on the face of the woman you see being the mother of your kids, that's just icky. That only makes sense to feel bad if you think sex is degrading.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:13 PM
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So why did he make me wait? Because he liked me and he wanted to impress me and he was nervous. He didn't want to associate you with the one night stands he had with other women. I'm not sure if you know this, but for a lot of guys especially when they are young, genuine love tends to diminish the focus on sex, and this is exactly what makes it easy for him to treat you right
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:33 PM
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desirability for men is if a woman is willing to be a part of their life. Women have pretty high standards for relationships. Lol what, a handsome paycheck and a willingness to bank roll her lifestyle is enough to make 90% of women be down for a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:30 PM
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Forget about Sigmund Freud for a second, The Madonna whore complex at it's core is about guys having two categories of women in their heads. It's not that they are not attracted to the Madonna, it's that they are vanilla with the Madonna because she's associated with purity nurturing and embodies the traditional conception of pure forever love and what it means to be a virtuous woman. The whore however is the opposite, most probably is a druggie of some sort, has piercing and tattoos, generally …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:28 PM
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Choices have consequences buddy. Life ain't a bed of roses
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:14 PM
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Then how tf do they managed to get victimized multiple times???
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:09 PM
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The abuse was…not enough to overcome my love for him and I saw hints of the old him throughout that I hoped…Until he nearly killed me And who's fault is that? You see? In most of this cases the women love rationalizing abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:07 PM
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The real world is filled with so much evil I'm surprised you've managed to stay so long In your idealistic bubble
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:54 PM
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It's not unrealistic to be surprised when people take advantage of you, because that implies people taking advantage of you is the default. Yes it is. There's so much evil in the world I'm surprised how you think it isn't the default.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:50 PM
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It's not wrong but it's unrealistic to get surprised when ppl take advantage of you. Most everything a person does that may make them vulnerable should be something we can do. I should be able to go out without locking my door without worrying about burglary but we don't live in such an ideal world
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:40 PM
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Nope, just realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:36 PM
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Is that what you took from my comment? I'm simply saying performing due diligence is simply par for the course in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:33 PM
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No, it's true. I mean, sure. Untrue, it's what kept her there longer. Nope,everyone was supportive and kept encouraging her to leave him, I even offered her a place to stay but no sooner would she go back to her abusive husband because passion yadda yadda, it's only until ppl got fed up with her and blamed her did she finally open her eyes Mine was that after having 2 kids, my husband changed. He stopped doing anything except going to work at night and then coming home in the daytime to drink. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:30 PM
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I don't think they need help, they just need to learn to grow up and stop thinking the world is a Disney fairytale where nothing ever goes wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:55 AM
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I don't get the point of this response?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:27 AM
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You want to cross the road. Do you look both ways? Of course you do, we're taught from an early age to look before you cross the road to avoid getting hit by a car. Is this victim blaming? A driver is supposed to be in control of his vehicle at all times, so if a car hits a pedestrian it's completely the driver's fault, from a legal perspective. So why do we teach people to look both ways before they cross? Because we recognize that sometimes driver's aren't following the rules, and that, though…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:17 AM
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You want to cross the road. Do you look both ways? Of course you do, we're taught from an early age to look before you cross the road to avoid getting hit by a car. Is this victim blaming? A driver is supposed to be in control of his vehicle at all times, so if a car hits a pedestrian it's completely the driver's fault, from a legal perspective. So why do we teach people to look both ways before they cross? Because we recognize that sometimes driver's aren't following the rules, and that, though…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:14 AM
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Yes. Why would you bring gender into this??? I'll illustrate. A buddy of mine fell asleep on the bus on the way home from work while his car was in for repairs. We victim-blamed. Our group of friends have little power over the law and order situation or conscience of every potential pickpocket, but we do know that those are not the type of buses you fall asleep on with a $500 phone that you were texting with minutes before. We do know he doesn't have an ounce of street smarts on him, and the los…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:13 AM
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At the end of the day she picked him, chose to repeatedly go back to him. There's only so much others can do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:09 AM
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So... not a single person from your friend group did anything about the RAPISTS hanging out at their parties? People get busy with other things in their lives, they are not obligated to do it, she has legs she can do it herself of she wants to, the best they could do, was spare their time to feel sorry for her and assure her she'll get better, advice her not to come to the parties at times, or mind her drinking. They weren't bothered knowing that someone keeps inviting rapists? They're just indi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:06 AM
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I mean you’re not helping your sister you’re harming her. You How? You seem like a really horrible person. Because I don't believe in victim-olympics?🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:53 AM
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I can't tell you, it's different for each and every one of us. Perhaps. Maybe something snapped in her Yeah but I'm willing to bet if they didn't blame her, nothing would've snapped at all. maybe he did something that was worse We would've known about it. Maybe she realised her family were a bunch of horrible people who weren't going to ever give a shit and she was all alone If that was what was necessary to make her finally leave the jerk, I'm all for it. I know this is all some fun theory for …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:52 AM
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Nope, I love how you're strawmanning everything, it's not a good look. Wait so your sister was getting abused and when she came to you for support you were like "this is your own fault, I'm not helping you" so she had to figure out how to get out of it completely by herself? Nope she had a habit of complaining and crying about her husband, and everytime someone helped her, she would still end up going back to him, because Instead of blaming her for a part in it, they were just fixated on the hus…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:49 AM
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They often no longer speak to their family and friends, the initial thing abusers do is isolate them. And who's fault is that? Whatever happened to performing due diligence before getting tied to a person?🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:42 AM
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What do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:41 AM
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She kept passing out at parties and getting raped over and over and had NO IDEA how it kept happening to her, She knew, she just didn't like the alternative of having to tone down on the drinking or quiting altogether. keep passing out sis" and ONLY THEN was she like "OH you mean it's been the PASSING OUT all along that was getting me raped? Gosh, I had no idea She only started self reflecting after the third time she was raped, and ppl weren't really surprised, just indifferent and kept it movi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:40 AM
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I can smell the sarcasm all over this. Humour me then, how do you you suppose it happened? Do you think it's just a coincidence that only when ppl started blaming her did she gain the will to leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:31 AM
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Having nowhere else to go, A lot of them have somewhere they can go, their parents home, their sibling's, a friend's house. having been "ground down" by physical and mental abuse so badly that a person doesn't think they can function without their abuser, a fear of greater reprisal....... take your pick. That's a personal issue, that they should work on themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:30 AM
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Do you have a specific circumstance in mind Yep, I have a friend who's been raped multiple times because of her habit of getting passed out drank at parties. Instead of ppl holding her accountable and telling her to maybe not get so drunk, they just rationalized her actions and focused on blaming the rapist, which while noble, didn't really do much. Her trauma could be avoided if someone cautioned her about her drinking habits early on
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:28 AM
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Ehh I still disagree. My sister only managed to get out of her abusive relationship once everyone blamed her for choosing him. Before when ppl were busy infantalizing her and calling her a victim, all they did was enable her to repeat all the same mistakes. It's only when ppl had had enough of her crying and started telling her "well you picked him, you chose your bed, lie in it." That she started being accountable and self aware
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:25 AM
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So how do you explain why they end up repeating the same mistakes??? It's this kind of rationale that enables women to keep going back to abusive partners
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:18 AM
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I don't think most would. But if it came down to it, they'd have an easier time tolerating it, if she'd been that way all her life
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:13 AM
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If something terrible has already happened to someone, it's not helpful to say "Well, you SHOULD have avoided it!" All you're doing in that case is kicking someone when they're down. Which compounds trauma and makes recovery harder. I think it's more likely that you're telling them so they don't repeat the same mistakes. I think focusing on consoling them and infantalizing them would just make it more likely to repeat the same mistakes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:11 AM
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Her treatment of me wouldn't really matter all that much if the trend was the same. It would only meam much if she's been consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:08 AM
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Ppl make sacrifices and compromises for people that they love. If she was willing to do things she doesn't like to please her ex but is unwilling with me, then ofcourse that puts her feelings into question. All we are asking for is consistency
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:30 AM
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I’ve only seen women who have previously tried sexual things they really didn’t like or felt coerced into by the “exciting but not very protective of her needs” guy, and then felt safe enough to not be pressured into The issue still is that she infact did them, that's the whole point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:50 AM
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One of the things women find very attractive are provider types I'd wager these are the types that are least attractive to women. If you have to open your wallet to get her, she probably isn't that into you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 02:15 PM
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Lol, life doesn't revolve around getting laid buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 06:45 AM
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Option 1 as long as she has a clean past/no casual past. Option 1 with a hoe would be pretty much worthless and meaningless
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 01:20 AM
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Most people are not. Then how do you explain the fact that 99% of the population have possibly lied about something at some point in their life time?? Why would he continue lying and put a ring on it when he had so many other options? Like I said, perhaps compromises had to be made. I’m not the one who had to respond point by point to an engaged woman about how her partner doesn’t A small check through your profile told me everything I need to know. dudes don’t actually dislike slutty women Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 01:17 AM
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Yeah most people aren’t just intrinsically liars. Ofcourse they are. I don't know any human who's never lied about something in their life time. That’s a you thing, not an all men thing I thought the defense for women who get into bad relationship is that the man pretended to be good then later changed or some shit🤔 And ironically his exact words were “I think that virgin you, or even with very few partners you would have had a lot of growing up to do. Plus you’d be clingy and maybe insecure and…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:46 PM
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Did I say something inaccurate?🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 08:40 PM
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What does my intelligence have to do with my sexuality? That’s a weird correlation to make. I didn't say that because of your sexuality, I said that because of your beliefs about men. It's almost like you don't know how a lot of men operate. Most men will tell you exactly what they know you want to hear, in order to get in your good graces. And yeah, he had plenty of other options If an identical copy of you existed that didn't have the slutty past, I'd bet good money that he'd puck her, atleast…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 08:18 PM
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Well I beg to differ. I’ve had enough of them to know some guys are neutral to it, some guys like it, and it’s some guys kink. Ofcourse you would, you're a woman. And not a very smart one at that. he even knows that I was a huge slut. Lol, you think if it were up to him, he'd not want to be the only guy you've been with? I can be good money, that if it was under his control, he'd not want you to be a slut, but since it isn't, some compromises have to be made. some people, like you, just… don’t. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 08:00 PM
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So you’re just jealous that I got to fuck a bunch of hot dudes in my twenties and then settled down with the love of my life in my thirties? No guy wants to think that his special little lady was some other guy's slut for the night, that's just icky
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:21 PM
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Lol if you can have casual sex, you're probably not capable of experiencing true love
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:17 PM
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You look like you're try to convince yourself more than you are to convince me 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:16 PM
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Firstly, there are actually a fair number of men who are turned on by this thought, you don’t speak for all men. In most of this cases, the men aren't there for love, just pure lust What’s not fine is perpetuating the myth that women inherently loose value by having multiple partners and then complain that women don’t want to sleep with you. For a very long time in human history, the basis for treating a woman right was that she was an exception to the rule, that she didn't do the things that ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:01 PM
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I am promoting “mind your own fucking business and let her do what she wants with other consenting adults”. If ppl minded their business, society would've collapsed a long time ago. Minding ppl's business has been what has kept civilization alive until date
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:42 PM
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You don’t have to enjoy it, but let’s not bring others down for it. It’s silly and childish, esp at this point in time. Far more harmful to women that’s for sure. If ppl like you are allowed to flourish and thrive, society will rot. Society has a vested interest in keeping ppl like you invisible, for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:40 PM
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Hi! I’m a woman! I see nothing wrong with adult women participating in sexual promiscuity and kink so long as it’s all consensual. I’ve engaged in plenty of casual sex sessions and usually slept around with my partners before dating them. I love sex on a first date. I love sex no strings attached. I LOVE me some kink, including degradation. I once was sleeping with three men at once, took the necessary safety measures, and guess what! It didn’t lower my value. It was healing and raised my confid…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:38 PM
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What’s actually wrong with casual sex It cheapens relationships and the idea of love. It's probably single handedly the biggest reason why romance and love are so shit nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:36 PM
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It's simple really. No guy wants to think that his special little lady was some other guy's slut for the night. Acknowledging this reality is what makes a guy do the bare minimum in a relationship. So as long as women expect special treatment and consideration, this double standard will always exist
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:30 PM
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. I don't really understand why guys on this sub hate sluts so much... It's pretty self explanatory tho. It has to do with the little fact that no guy wants to think that his special little lady was some other guy's slut for the night. Acknowledging this reality makes it hard to treat a woman well. Her being an exception to the rule, is the legitimate basis they use to justify to themselves the sacrifice and investment they put into a woman. Men don't hate sluts, they just don't want to have a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:26 PM
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You should be. Most homewreckers tend to be high n count, a lot of single mothers who are a net negative to society also tend to be very loose when it comes to sex, high n women are also likely to engage in risky behaviour, which in turn affects you in other ways
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:22 PM
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Having a high n count doesn’t make a woman more prone to infidelity in a committed relationship, I'm pretty sure, deep down even you don't believe that. Such women just want frequent sex, If that were the case, they wouldn't need to sleep with multiple men for that tho🤔 one or two fwbs could handle them just fine. There are lots of high n count women who are unbreakably loyal in long term relationships, but engage frequently in casual sex when they are not in one. If they were, I don't think the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:19 PM
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My analogy was just fine. Why do you take issue with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:03 AM
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let’s stop pretending that trust is some noble, rational decision. It’s not. It’s an emotional choice, a leap of faith with no safety net. And while it might work out sometimes, other times, it’s going to blow up in your face. From a self-preservation perspective, trust isn’t just risky—it’s downright dangerous. The truth is, trust is one giant emotional trap. It’s comforting to believe that the person you love would never hurt you, but that comfort comes at a cost. You’re making yourself vulner…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:17 PM
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its fine if you think that lowly of other women. I mean look at the world around you, look at the lies, the child abuse and abortion stats, the corruption, the rapes, the death, the destruction and exploitation going on in the world. Humans at their very core are wired to seek out their self interests even if it's at the expense of others. I never have, nor never will be a cheater. I do not lie like that. Its fine if you want to assume I do, but I never will. and any man so deeply insecure that …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:14 PM
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You should have done due diligence on whether this person is trustworthy/ I don't think humans are trustworthy. You're severely underestimating the instinct for self preservation. Most people have probably lied about something at some point in their life
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 04:49 PM
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trust your partner, I think that’s a tad more irrational. I don't think it's irrational considering none of us is a paragon of human perfection. Most ppl have possibly lied about something at some point in their life, if that's not saying a lot, I don't know what does. If we all lived with this mindset we would all be displacing our feelings of distrust As an atheist, I'm sure you can get why I don'tike the idea of believing things just for the sake of believing. . If you got trust issues, sort …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 04:48 PM
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not just raising an already born kid. I would wager raising a kid is a much more toll order than gestating them Men cheat in this world too, so why not let me have the verification, same way they can have it? The reason female cheating is considered a worser evil is because of the potential for paternity fraud
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:51 PM
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Yes I would absolutely blame them 100%. I’m not a cheater and I’m not going to be insulted like a cheater simply because other people in the world have cheated. Unless you're a paragon of human perfection, like you have never lied, or did anything bad, I think thats a pretty manipulative and hypocritical stance to hold. It borders pretty closely to the women-are-wonderful-effect. If you dont trust me, and you dont know my character and know I wouldn’t do this, and can only prove that I’m not rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:49 PM
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I think performing due diligence is simply par for the course otherwise you're just asking for pain. I'm not surprised you would espouse this opinion as a woman tho, it's pretty in line with women's more emotional less rational nature
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:45 PM
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That’s way too nonsensical even to imagine. So I have a better solution: Because you do know that in such a hypothetical world, you wouldn't take the just trust your husband nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:31 PM
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Does trusting someone make them infallible?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 02:34 PM
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Why would I, as a man, be having a child with someone I didn't fully trust? Maybe because trusting someone doesn't necessarily make them infallible?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 02:32 PM
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Let's switch up the question a bit. What if we lived in a magical world where it was possible for a woman(wife) to get pregnant every time her husband had an affair and she wouldn't know without a test, and it was possible for her to go through life raising and taking çare of kids that were born of her husband's affairs?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 02:32 PM
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What ever happened to due diligence simply being par for the cause?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 02:29 PM
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If I’m married to someone, and they demanded a paternity test, it’s tantamount to accusing me of cheating. Considering how common infidelity is nowadays cam you really blame him? There's a lot of people who would aware up and down that they love their partners and they trust them and wouldn't do that to them, yet they end up being wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 02:27 PM
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It's simple really. The men who have everything that women and are attracted are also the least likely ones to give it to them. That's why women end up with relationships that they want but with men they would not prefer. As Chris rock uptly put it, the number one reason your wife is always mad in the house, is because you weren't her first choice
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 01:23 PM
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Some people think it should be mandatory at birth, a lot of people don't like the idea of labs having their genetic info on file without them being able to decide whether or not they want that, and they don't want their tax dollars going into funding such a program. More like a convenient cop out. Some people pretend that asking your LTR partner for a paternity test doesn't carry negative implications with it. It does. Obviously, if we're talking about concerns like IVF screw ups, kids swapped a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:43 PM
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The issue of mandatory paternity testing is a threat to the female dual mating strategy af/bb(the negative emotions from women are only, just a manifestation of this subconscious fear)that's all it can be boiled down to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:34 PM
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The problem lies in the fact that, No guy wants to think that his special little lady was some other guy's slut for the night. That's why society has always been harsh on promiscuous women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:20 PM
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Thats a fucking Strawman and you know it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:16 PM
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Your point doesn't really mean much considering trust doesn't make you immune to being screwed over. You can trust someone till you're blue in the face, it doesn't change the fact that they can infact totally screw you over given the right circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:23 PM
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It's a travesty that rhetoric like this has turned paternity testing into some kind of accusation. Performing due diligence before investing hundreds of thousands of dollars is simply par for the course. In no other context is it acceptable or sane to spend $250k+ and thousands of hours of your life based upon someone's word when there's no need for that word in the first place over a simple and accessible test. It's really that simple. Parenthood is a large monetary and time investment and we o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:38 AM
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That emotions trump logic. Yes it is a travesty
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:35 AM
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If you ask your monogamous, exclusive, committed partner for a paternity test (not a non-exclusive or monogamous partner), when there is no hint of misconduct, that you are shocked or upset that they would be shocked or upset. I think that humans at their core are capable of anything under the right circumstances, and women are pretending they are high above this innate predisposition, which borders closely to the women-are-wonderful-effect. It would be nice if women could just have enough self …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:28 AM
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Where did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:24 AM
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I'm saying the women who commit paternity fraud are your every day average woman, not some unique monster as ppl like to pretend
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:12 AM
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So here's the thing: a woman who passes off another man's kid as that of her husband is a deeply immoral person Not really. This is your everyday average woman. You're basically doing the male version of those are not men, those are boys. And asking for a paternity ask is the same as asking, "Are you that kind of deeply immoral person?" Are security checks at the airport an accusation of terrorism?? But in either case, you've accused the alleged love of your life of something godawful, and you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:31 AM
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Humans aren't saints, especially not women. Anyone is capable of anything under the right circumstances. That just lies at the core of being human
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:26 AM
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To demand your sweet pregnant wife who is risking life and limb (organ really) to spawn ur child get a paternity test in absence of reason or previous discussion is likely to be a problem. Course I am aware. Trp does a pretty good job reminding us that women are more emotional than rational
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:25 AM
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considering I've never given him a reason to doubt my fidelity). You don't have to give your partner reasons to doubt you, you can still cheat and your partner would never notice a damn thing. Happens quite a lot Me: I'd feel offended if my partner asked me for a paternity test (considering I've never given him a reason to doubt my fidelity). You: Oh yea, well you're not a perfect little angel so shut up! So rational. Very empathetic. It's pretty ironical and hypocritical for an imperfect Human …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:23 AM
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Relationships need to be built on mutual trust. If a man is demanding a paternity test to his pregnant partner unprompted, it’s pretty reasonable Trust in relationships is often paraded as the cornerstone of everything, but let’s not kid ourselves, it’s not some magical shield that can prevent betrayal. Trust isn’t a logical decision; it’s an emotional one. When you trust someone, you’re gambling. You’re hoping they won’t betray you, but you have zero factual evidence in real time to guarantee t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:16 AM
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yeah but what changed that you were okay impregnanting her and bringing a CHILD into the world but then 9 months later you think she's a cheater? Did you miss the part where I implied every woman was capable of this under the right circumstances? it sounds like you are being irresponsible with your sperm and potentially fucking over a child Nope. I just think performing due diligence is simply par for the course no matter how much you trust someone. We often lock our doors even though there's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:40 PM
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If you have to get a paternity test it means you do NOT trust her Trust but verify. Most people who get duped also trusted their partner at some point. Most ppl who get cheated on, are cheated on by ppl they presumed and trusted would never cheat on them. It means you think your partner is capable of horrific things Ever heard of the saying, everyone has a price, It’s just a matter of finding out what it is. The idea behind it is that anyone can be persuaded to do something they might initially …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:14 PM
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Well because, trusting someone doesn't make them infallible. Everyone is capable of anything under the right circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:39 PM
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This is far from universal For long term relationships, yeah it's a universal rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:08 PM
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We’re not necessarily talking about any history of promiscuity, though. I'm using promiscuity broadly to include, non relationship sex, basically where she was just seen as a slut for the night i.e onenightis, fwbs, situationship etc don’t think it’s reasonable to think that a split-second knee-jerk gut reaction to the thought of someone else plowing your wife comes down to number-crunching risk assessments. This feels like trying to intellectualize an emotional response — like a post ad hoc rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:03 AM
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Your last paragraph here doesn’t hold water to me because there’s not a clear line between sexual behavior with other men in the past and procreation and sexual exclusivity in the current moment and future. My skepticism is furthered because clearly there are a lot of monogamous men and women who are able to establish specialness in a relationship on other bases beyond their partner’s sexual past; this isn’t a problem that afflicts all men by any means. The basic premise is that, on a bounce of …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:10 AM
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women as their “special little lady” I don't think women would love to live in such a world. It would probably be the end of pretty privilege. Have you guys seen how bare minimum men are with their friends? Guys don't even care to remember each other's birthdays, or any of those little cute gestures that women find cute. Basically heterosexual relationships would be as bare minimum as the relationship between guy friends
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:27 AM
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it seems to me that the solution to that would be to develop an understanding of his partner as an ordinary woman Humans are wired to see potential mates through a lens of specialness because it helps in forming and maintaining long-term bonds. Evolutionarily, men might have evolved to invest more deeply in relationships where they perceive their partner as exceptional. This perception of specialness helps justify the significant investment of time and resources that relationships and parenting …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:24 AM
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It sounds like, from what you’ve outlined here, this notion is bothersome because he needs his wife to be more special than other women Yes. and sexual acts she participated in in the past undermine the basis for her specialness. It's not necessarily the sexual acts, but the context in which the sexual acts took place. If she had it with a man who didn't really care about her(as is the assumption for all sex outside of commitment) then she becomes "slut for the night" which takes away from her s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:12 AM
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The guys’ logic is rooted in the belief that sex without commitment is a major loss or punishment for women. They operate under the assumption that women value emotional connection and commitment significantly more than the physical aspect of sex. To them, engaging in sex without these emotional elements is seen as degrading or humiliating because they believe that women derive a substantial part of their satisfaction and worth from the emotional depth of a relationship. From a purely mathematic…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:26 AM
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I’d say that’s a pretty weak comparison. Promiscuity correlating with impulsivity, drug use, or other self-destructive behaviors is a widely observed pattern. It’s not just me saying it; research supports that people with high partner counts often have a higher likelihood of engaging in risky behavior. Assigning character traits based on behavior patterns is called recognizing red flags, not baseless stereotyping. Now, virginity doesn’t inherently correlate with toxic traits like misogyny, so yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:06 AM
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I get it, you're happy in your marriage, but you're overlooking a pretty common dynamic. Pedestalization may not be your reality, but it’s undeniably how most people enter relationships, idealizing their partner, especially in the early stages. It's human nature to be drawn to what we perceive as better or unattainable. We can call it insecurity, but I’d argue it’s more about basic attraction psychology. Maybe if you haven't grown out of Disney movies, most adults are aware that their partners a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:02 AM
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Why would this be any different vice versa? That's what would make it a double standard. You should tell me. It's not men's fault that women are drawn to men who other women want/men with experience. It's literally y'all's fault for not holding this bias against promiscuous men. Given the choice between a virgin and a promiscuous man, most women would prolly flock to the ladies man Again, why wouldn't this be a concern for women as well? Let's not pretend like it has the same bad optics. This is…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 11:48 PM
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It's simple math really. Women go through great risk and struggle to get the same benefits out of sex that men get without all the risk or trouble. So technically the woman has more at stake. I think alot of guys when they put themselves in women's shoes, they imagine they'd not open their legs considering it's the woman who could get pregnant, shamed etc. when a woman is having sex with a man she's essentially putting her life at risk in a way that the man is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 11:44 PM
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Men and women are different, let's agree on that. If you think my take is flawed, I want you to notethe difference in terms of reaction between men and women, when infidelity is discovered. More often than not, men tend to exaggerate and act like it's the end of the world. Why? Because men subconsciously put the women they are romantically involved with up that pedestal(it's one of the reasons women are able to get away with infidelity far more, coz the men rarely ever foresee it as a possibilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 11:39 PM
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you viscerally dislike the thing, that’s that, but it’s worth unpacking the underlying reasons. See, romance is one way guys use to rationalize their behavior relative to one very specific woman that they want to be in a relationship with. Acknowledgement of their woman's past jeopardizes that rationalization which is what provokes that sense of worthlessness. Romance and the idealization of love and pedestalization of woman is a tool that some men use to justify to themselves the inordinate exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 11:34 PM
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Okay, but why? Evolution, socialization, I'm not sure. The way we've been conditioned to seek out love, pedestalization is the foundational basis for romantic love. It's something that I've seen come up in quite some relationships, and it's quite troubling for some guys, it really eats them up inside. They learn a few details of their woman's sexual history then they extrapolate mental details based of those details. And these fantasies more or less come to torture these Individuals and if they …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 11:33 PM
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You can treat someone like a normal person (not putting them on a pedestal) More than likely you'll just stay friends. The way we've been conditioned to seek out love and all that stuff, pedestalization is the foundational basis of romantic love. That's a very longwinded way to say they've insecure af. Lemme Break it down more clearly perhaps you'll get it this time. It's something that I've seen come up in quite some relationships, and it's quite troubling for some guys, it really eats them up …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 11:31 PM
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You can rationalize your hate for women being horny all day idc, if you're "having fun" is viewed by you as causing harm Yeah I got no hate in my body, just giving you my psychological opinion on things based off my sessions with men who struggle with this sexual hangups. I don't have a dog in this fight. It's something that I've seen come up in quite some relationships, and it's quite troubling for some guys, it really eats them up inside. They learn a few details of their woman's sexual histor…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 11:20 PM
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that's still pretty much your insecurities/inadequacies speaking Not really more like, a lack of pedestalization. See, romance is one way guys use to rationalize their behavior relative to one very specific woman that they want to be in a relationship with. Acknowledgement of their woman's past jeopardizes that rationalization which is what provokes that sense of worthlessness. Romance and the idealization of love and pedestalization of woman is a tool that some men use to justify to themselves …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 11:12 PM
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You just described insecurity. Not really more like, a lack of pedestalization. See, romance is one way guys use to rationalize their behavior relative to one very specific woman that they want to be in a relationship with. Acknowledgement of their woman's past jeopardizes that rationalization which is what provokes that sense of worthlessness. Romance and the idealization of love and pedestalization of woman is a tool that some men use to justify to themselves the inordinate expense and commitm…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 11:10 PM
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I don't think it's reasonable to expect people to stick to having multiple partners or one night stands because of their sexual past, people grow and change, they might have different values or views than they did in the past. When it comes to long-term relationships, it's just more sensible to go for someone who's always been consistent in that regard. Someone who’s practiced monogamy or values sexual exclusivity from the start shows a pattern of commitment, stability, and understanding of what…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 11:03 PM
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I'm sorry but this is the most scientifically foul statement i could ever read. Get used to variety? What should this mean? I think it has nothing to do with your body getting used to it (and also think there are no scientific bases to this), it's more about your values and your view of sexuality. I wouldn't define people who sleep around a lot as polyamorous, since most poly ppl follow strict self-imposed rules, mostly shared with all ppl they have a relationship with. The idea that promiscuous…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 11:01 PM
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Like please, why would I want to fuck someone who sees sex with women as a thing that makes her worth less in society? I don't think that's the right way to put it. I think the core of the issue is, no guy wants to think that his special little lady was some other guy's slut for the night. So I think in some weird way, men developed this sexual hangups, inorder to separate the chaff from the grain. Men have no issues with promiscuous women in general, as long as they can have fun with her, but g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:50 PM
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My comment was in response to your comments about how there are plenty of guys who don't have sexual hangups. Like cmon, that couldn't be further from the truth. Like nearly societies on earth have tried to constrain female sexuality in some shape way or form. If you go to Africa and other parts of the world outside of Europe that is, a lot of women undergo FGM(Female genital mutilation) a practice invented to keep women from sleeping around. So yeah quite a lot of men have sexual hangups/issues…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:46 PM
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There are very few double standards that are acceptable and sexual experiences aren't one of them. Why not? I think the sexual double standard makes perfect sense. Let's assume that being promiscuous increases the likelihood of someone cheating, since you know they are already used to variety. In a world riddled with paternity fraud, why would a man take a chance on a slut, who has a higher probability of cheating on him, when he can get a woman who can't have sex outside of à committed relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:42 PM
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If that were true, we wouldn't have a whole movement dedicated to normalizing women's sexuality. A lot of guys do infact have sexual hangups. From wifey material comments, to the disparaging of single mothers, to pump and dumps. I mean just look at all the terms and pejoratives that describe a woman who open with her sexuality? Hoe, bop, town bicycle, cumrag, slut, whore, 304,
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:33 PM
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think that people should refrain assigning character simply based on amount of sexual partners and should focus on behavior. Why not? Most ppl who are promiscuous more often than not have impulsivity as their defining trait, a history of drug use. I have never met a woman who had a high n count that didn't also have a history of drug use and so.e pretty problematic traits. I think it's fair to assign character based on amount of partners, considering the high level of correlation
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:29 PM
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Pedestalization is part of the loving process, you can't divorce those two things. If people didn't pedestalize each other, we'd have very very few relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:25 PM
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don’t think a woman’s past matters and I think men who care about it are insecure about their own ability to pleasure their partner or possibility. What if it can be boiled down to, no guy wants to think that his special little lady was some other guy's slut for the night? I think that's more of the issue as opposed to this supposed insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:22 PM
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If you don't want a promiscuous partner because you're worried that they've had better sexual experiences than you (think) you can provide, or you're worried that at some point they might think about a better-looking previous partner, that's just insecurity I think that's a given. Once you condition your body to variety, it gets used to it. Personally I think promiscuous ppl should stick to polyamorous relationshipa, they have no business being monogamous
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:20 PM
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you don't want a promiscuous partner because you're worried that they've had better sexual experiences than you (think) you can provide, or you're worried that at some point they might think about a better-looking previous partner, that's just insecurity. What if the guy, just doesn't want to think that he's special little lady was some other guy's slut for the night🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:18 PM
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Why do red pillers always assume that "stable" means "boring?" This really sounds more like their thirst for drama than some hypothetical woman's. Women believe this, not Redpillers. It's why they don't priorities stability early on
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:33 PM
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It’s hard to be super mature with very little life experience Where did you get that from? Any sources?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:14 PM
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picture this, your son, your younger brother, your nephew, any guy who you care for not in a romantic way but in a parental or mentoring way. He is in highschool, he is a good kid, he gets decent grades, he doesnt gets into trouble, he doesnt disrupts the peace, and he treats everyone with common courtesy and decency, he is quite romantic and idealistic, he would like to marry his highschool sweetheart. Around him, he sees guys who are not decent, inmature, players, cheaters, bullies, lazy, rude…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:12 PM
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You’re saying that if someone still likes the same things at 25 as they did at 18, it’s a red flag because they haven’t grown. Fine, but what exactly is this “growth” you’re talking about? Most of the time, what this really looks like is people realizing that the decisions they made in their youth didn’t pan out well for them, and now they want to switch lanes. people changing as they get older is often just a way of saying, “I want to have my cake and eat it too.” It’s about indulging in the th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:11 PM
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Situations like that made me extremely uncomfortable and resulted in me being wary of guys who were most likely not the chameleon type. Why not focus on who you really are rather than conforming to whatever type you think will get you the most pussy ? Has it ever occured to you that if that worked, men would do it. Men have to sort o play these games, or the women would get bored real quick. Most guys if left to their own devices they'd be pretty passive, the exact opposite of what women are att…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 02:05 PM
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Yes I think so. The evil step mother trope exists for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 06:03 PM
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The catch is once you stop infantalizing women, your empathy levels drop, you start accepting that they chose the situations they find themselves in and are ararely victims. So yeah it's hard struggle to understand women and still love them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:46 PM
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If women didn't require money, trust me, noan would be working at an oil rig
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:33 AM
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Not really. In Without nice guys, feminism as a movement would literally fall apart. Without male allies sympathetic to women's plight, we'd go back to the handmaid's tale
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:17 PM
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Providing a PC answer to come across nice. Nothing more. She doesn't owe him that tho, he isn't entitled to her niceness, the niceness is just manipulation with a smile. Why is she so obsessed with coming across as nice? Does she want to billy beta to remain stuck in his bluepilled world view? Thinking women are virtuous angels who can do no wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:15 PM
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This is maturation. Lol no thank you, I did myself a favour and stopped infantalizing women. I think they do know what they want, an that's ok
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:54 PM
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I don't believe in human intuition or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:45 PM
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Women in their youth aren't thinking about keeping Billy Beta in line so they have a chance to settle with him 10 years into the future. Billy is an afterthought Course they do, they usually tell billy beta that he'll make some woman happy some day, in hopes that billy beta won't fall into the RP pipeline. This is one of the main reason why RP is demonized. Trp's main agenda has always been to get rid of the safe fall back plan that is billy beta, you can see it in the way they preach rage fueli…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:45 PM
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So women's intuition is bullshit now? They can smell out misogynists and incels but they can't smell out abusers. How convenient
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:12 PM
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Men are toxic, because there's something about toxicity that gets panties wet
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:01 PM
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mean if you're being told you make unfalsifiable statements so much you think it's a classic defense maybe you should stop making unfalsifiable statements? Most women do not want bad men. Women aren't lying about this and you can't prove they are. If that were true, 1 in 3 women wouldn't be a victim of domestic violence
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:59 PM
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Alright, ppd freaks, it’s time to stop pretending we’re all walking halos and admit something: we’re all manipulators. Yeah, I said it. And no, this isn’t up for debate. You, me, your sweet old neighbor with the homemade cookies, we’re all playing the game of life, and manipulation is just one of the tools in our toolkit. So buckle up, because this ride’s about to get real. Let’s Get Real About Manipulation First off, if you’re sitting there thinking, “I’m not manipulative, I’m just nice,” then …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:57 PM
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Youre obviously not a "bad boy" I'm probably worse, I have low empathy, extremely rude and unhinged, have no problems with taking advantage of ppl, I priorities my own needs and wants, I wouldn't consider myself a good person, not by a long shot, especially the way ppl think of it. as a "nice guy" by believing that women absolutely only want one type of guy. But the occams razor is that you simply arent attractive enough to land the type of girl you want and should aim lower if you want more suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:52 PM
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everyone is not a manipulator. Why would I have to manipulate people? Alright, ppd freaks, it’s time to stop pretending we’re all walking halos and admit something: we’re all manipulators. Yeah, I said it. And no, this isn’t up for debate. You, me, your sweet old neighbor with the homemade cookies, we’re all playing the game of life, and manipulation is just one of the tools in our toolkit. So buckle up, because this ride’s about to get real. Let’s Get Real About Manipulation First off, if you’r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:49 PM
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So you're admitting that men have no moral compasses of their own and will just do whatever gets them laid? How this news to you is just beyond me. If money wasn't tied to a man's reproductive success, the wage gap probably wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:33 PM
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Ah yes, the classic "unfalsifiable statement" defense, because why engage in critical thinking when you can just slap a philosophical label on it and walk away? Here’s the thing, friend: this isn’t some conspiracy theory where every woman is secretly plotting to deceive the world about their preferences. People lie all the time, to themselves and to others. It’s called cognitive dissonance, something everyone’s guilty of, not just women. I mean, how often do people say they want to start working…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:23 PM
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You refuse to accept that the confident, assertive and handsome man is also reliable and kind. Dominant and adventurous in the sheets, and stable and secure father. He takes no shit from anyone, but will see and hear her. Ah yes, the mythical paragon of perfection—confident, assertive, handsome, reliable, kind, dominant in the sheets, stable, secure, takes no shit, yet tender and understanding. Sure, everyone wants this dreamboat, but let’s not pretend like the majority of men (or women, for tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:18 PM
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People who are drawn to toxic people often do so because basically, something in their own upbringing went very wrong. Ah, the classic “let’s blame it on their upbringing” argument. Sure, childhood issues might play a role in attraction patterns, no one's denying that. But the idea that most women who are drawn to toxic guys are victims of some deep parental trauma? That’s a bit of a stretch, isn’t it? How about we give women a bit more credit? Some actually enjoy the thrill, the unpredictabilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:13 PM
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I see you’ve come armed with your Freud handbook and some amateur psychology. "You want women but hate us"? Cute, but let’s not psychoanalyze with crayons here. It’s not about hating women, it’s about recognizing the intricate dance between what women say they want and what they actually respond to. If you think that’s an attack on womanhood, well, I’m afraid that says more about how you perceive honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:07 PM
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Nice stable guys are nice stable guys, regardless of women being attracted to them or not. And the same goes for bad boys A nice guy can remain stable and secure all day long, but without the pull of attraction, he’s sitting there in the friendzone like a Golden Retriever waiting for scraps.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:04 PM
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I love how people think that just because something isn't a formal conspiracy, it suddenly doesn't exist. Newsflash: people don't need to gather in dark rooms and plot like some secret society to act in their own self-interest. It's human nature. We all adapt to social expectations, whether it's in dating or any other area of life, because that’s how we thrive in society. When people go out into the world to date they are not thinking as a collective. It's not a conspiracy. Well, obviously. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:01 PM
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win" a woman over by acting a certain way is manipulative. Everyone is a manipulator, it comes with the territory of being human bad boys" are typically masculine, authoritative and authentic, which are traits straight women will always be attracted to. Thinking that women only "say Of course women are drawn to that! But here’s where you’re missing the nuance: It’s not just those traits that reel women in. It’s the danger, the rebellion, and yes, the selfishness. Bad boys aren’t filling the role…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:53 PM
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The post is flaired as a debate, you're free to drop a counter argument
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:37 PM
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Hard disagree but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:24 PM
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It kind of is
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 03:06 PM
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So essentially AF/BB and a potential alpha widow dynamic at play? Only in this case the alpha fucks is theoretical. Either way billy beta is screwed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:59 PM
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You're taking a common fantasy that people enjoy in the privacy and non-reality of their minds and trying to conflate it with irl choices that some people make and that other people then ascribe motivations to. The reason it's a common fantasy probably speaks to an inner truth that society would rather keep under wraps
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:57 PM
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You don't see how your own admission fits the af/bb concept?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:55 PM
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Most women like problematic men in fiction, in real most women also tend to date problematic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:54 PM
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I highly doubt that. These excuses are Soo tiring
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:53 PM
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Too many women date problematic men for any of that to be true
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:26 PM
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If we weren't society wouldn't have worked so hard to repress the expression of female sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:38 PM
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Last I checked, most women overwhelming find passive agreeable men boring
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:21 PM
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Lol, I think, completely shutting out female opinions and rationalizations, Is good for the soul. Because I just can't, wrap my head around all this rationalizations
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:20 PM
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Peak female narcissism I suppose
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 11:26 AM
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Whats disgusting about my conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 11:24 AM
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You literally explained why women enjoy these problematic things, I don't think it's far fetched to assume they can and often do bleed into real life
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 11:24 AM
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Whatever happened to just being normal?🤔 Why tf, is that something that would get off a woman??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:29 AM
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It has nothing to do with actual rape.. it's literally a fantasy, it's the opposite of rape. Women are weird creatures I'll give you that. It's quite interesting that in a world full of rape, there are women who still have the audacity to get off or fantasize about such things
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:20 AM
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Anne Rice once said something like “many women enjoy being forced into a situation where they have no choice but to enjoy themselves.” That’s what’s happening. One more reason to be critical of female victims in any given situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:36 AM
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This is the solid truth. TRP is utterly lacking in self-awareness that they can't admit this I highly doubt that, I think it's more so that they wouldn't be good enough, contrary to popular belief it doesn't all boil down to hotness or sex for men, men are defacto built with a Madonna whore complex, a man falls in love with a woman based on who she is as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:26 AM
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We can't pretend as if women don't have a personal motivation to keep things under wraps. I think most women know that if they were infact like the other post and admitted to it, the nice stable dependable guy(fallback plan) would probably go to extinct, as most men would forego being the backup plan and try to be the bad boy women secretly crave
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:23 AM
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Immature men tend to like “crazy” chicks who are hot and passionate. Not the nice mousy church girl who is cute but not seductive This is simply just the Madonna whore complex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:19 AM
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It doesn’t work for drama Essentially women are attracted to drama, makes sense why they don't like agreeable men, so toxic men are doing sth right. They are giving the woman the drama she needs. This should be taught in schools for young boys, so that they don't end up being miserable nice guys later on
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:30 AM
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In both scenarios, a desire is being fulfilled. Neither are things that you actually seek in real life, but it scratches an itch. So essentially af/bb? only in this is af, happens in theory?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:20 AM
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Women are on here about deny trp concepts like alpha widow, af/bb
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:18 AM
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Where is the story if everything is nice and easy? You can create conflict with a good guy dynamic you know🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:17 AM
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Point B, giving someone the benefit of the doubt about a momentary lapse into violence against an inanimate object does not make them worthy of the massive fucking insult that is victim-blaming. So you can stop that stinkin' thinkin'. Ow, I disagree. Either way, if you do give them the benefit of the doubt, then yes you absolutely are to blame for that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:15 AM
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In most cases they are usually to blame, because everyone else knows they could make so many other choices but they didn't for whatever reason
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:14 AM
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For the subset of women who do enjoy romance fiction, the “bad boy” is never actually bad. He’s tortured and misunderstood. He’s suffering and only the love of a good woman can free him from the shackles of his past and allow him to be the butterfly kissing, tender yet passionate, orphan rescuing shining example of manhood that he was under his rough exterior all along. The dark hero is not a puppy kicker or a baby slapper. He’s brooding and moody and possibly rude in the beginning, but never a …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:10 AM
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If the point of a fantasy is to be something you wouldn’t actually want in real life then there’s no reason to fantasize about having a good life when that’s already your reality I think it's more so that, fantasy allows you to experience the forbidden, something that you do infact want, but are too scared to go after it, because it comes at a cost. It essentially allows women who can't or won't practice alpha fucks beta bucks, to essentially do so, in theory
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:04 AM
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So essentially alpha fucks beta bucks
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:58 AM
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You admit the only reason is just that one reason! No other reason Ofcourse with everything there are exceptions, but I can confidently say, I think most would end fall under my stated reason
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:20 AM
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But, it’s easy to see how the bad boy dynamic can often make for a more exciting read if we’re strictly going by story structure. I don't particularly agree. I've watched and read a fair amount of love triangle romances, and from being in lots of these fandoms, the bad boy usually starts off being fangirled by every girl, then later when they age and hit their 30s, they switch preferences, you start hearing them talk about how they vouch for the good guy, and how he was so much more deserving of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:10 AM
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And a decent Normal guy can't give her that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:05 AM
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Why do you assume it does reflect some "deeper" desires? Because otherwise they wouldn't be there, there wouldn't be any reason for them to be. I've recently discovered that one thing I find hot and exciting in fiction is women with a somewhat flawed moral compass. Does that mean that I secretly desire to have a relationship with such women? Why would you find it hot? Begs the question. Why not be neutral about it instead? it's just a trope I find entertaining for some very shallow reason. Perha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:02 AM
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We fantasize about things because they aren't real. We don't want them to be real. Lol, the only reason a woman would forego a bad boy, Is because it may at a very great personal cost to her well being. So picking the good guy is the smart choice. It still doesn't erase what actually gets her panties wet
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:50 PM
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Nice, love the self awareness. I used to think trp was bullshit until this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:46 PM
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My post wasn't strictly talking about books, movies and tv shows too are included
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:45 PM
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Could you summarize it for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:43 PM
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Women want the secure, uninhibited man who is exciting in bed and treats everyone well. I guess that's true. I still maintain, if women were drawn to the same traits that men are drawn to in women, they'd save themselves a lot of trouble. I suppose that evolution is one helluva drug. Y'all create the very problems you complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:43 PM
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So technically trp was right on the money with AF/BB? Interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:39 PM
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Because people don’t fantasize about boring So good guy = boring, bad boy = exciting. Isn't this trp 101?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:38 PM
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Would you consider yourself one? Your example was pretty analogous
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:36 PM
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Yet they pale in popularity when compared to the other bad boy ones. Pure coincidence? I think not
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:35 PM
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Like how women can have rape fantasies. That doesn’t mean they want to be raped Perhaps. I don't understand the psychology behind it, I just know my empathy levels went out the window, the minute I knew some ppl were into that shit. Because it’s fiction? I'd wager some fantasies don't exist in a vacuum. It’s called nuance. Try it sometime Sounds more like a cop out rationalization
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:27 PM
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No I think if I was truly wrong, they'd be as many women fantasizing about the good guy, to the point the bad boy thing wouldn't even be a popular trope
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:23 PM
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Because it's a fantasy. Why can't they fantasize about a good upstanding man, does it always have to be some man with some problematic traits? All I'm getting from this is, women want the bad boy, but society shames them into settling for the nice guy who'll get them that picket fence
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:19 PM
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In the stories the guys are just misunderstood & are actually good people. Lol, as a man who's read a fair decent and watched a couple of this movies, I'm not at all surprised you'd think this as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:15 PM
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So essentially if you take away all the negative drawbacks that are associated with being with a bad boy/toxic man, that's the man you'd go for, if didn't come at great cost to your personal safety? So for example, I might enjoy reading about being on the back of some dangerous guys motorcycle. Loud engine, no helmet, above the speed limit, leather jacket, hair blowing in the wind, etc. I'm just sitting here on my couch reading that book in no danger of losing my life in an automobile accident. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:14 PM
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Perhaps they unlocked the secrets of female nature that were too taboo to adress
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:10 PM
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It’s true that some women who enjoy bad boy tropes in fiction might not necessarily date them in real life, just like some guys might watch extreme porn but wouldn’t live out those fantasies. However, the appeal of these tropes in fiction still suggests there’s something intriguing about them, even if it's not a perfect reflection of real-life choices. It’s less about a direct match and more about understanding why certain themes captivate us, whether or not we act on them in reality. Women are …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:06 PM
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I would agree only that I can see the why women would have a personal motivation of dismissing my post
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:03 PM
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Because if they were to admit the truth about the allure of the bad boy, all men would basically end up being bad boys, ridding the world of the safe dependable nice guy that can put her on her pedestal. For most guys, all the women and girls they interacted with reinforced the notion that nice guys were preferred and bad boys were deceptive mistakes that just happened, when really these women knew what they were doing. These men then think that since women are complaining about the bad boys tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:59 PM
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Interesting take on the sex part. But why is it that the ‘good guy’ can't also be good at sex? Seems a bit unfair to assume that the thrill of the bad boy is the only route to satisfying experiences. The stereotype that only bad boys bring excitement in the bedroom overlooks the fact that a ‘good guy’ can be just as passionate and adventurous. Maybe it’s not just about sex but also about the whole persona, the unpredictability and intensity that bad boys bring. So, why box in ‘good guys’ as inca…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:54 PM
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Sure, a lot of women who read romantic fiction might not be dating bad boys, but that doesn’t mean they’re not intrigued by the allure of that dangerous charm. It's like admiring the view from a safe distance. Kind of like in a forbidden fruit kind of way. You know you shouldn't want it, but you can't help thinking about what it'd be like. It’s like admiring the bad boy from afar while dating Mr. Safe and Reliable, because society and practical reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:50 PM
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I think it kind of is, considering 1 in 3 women is a victim of domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:39 PM
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Absolutely, fiction and reality are different realms, and what we enjoy in stories often doesn’t translate directly to real life. However, the overlap between the two isn't necessarily a personal problem, it’s more about understanding how our fantasies and preferences might inform or reflect our real-world desires. While it's true that enjoying a 'bad boy' trope in fiction doesn't mean someone wants to date a real-life bad boy, the frequency with which certain themes appear can offer insights in…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:38 PM
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You’re right, romantic and erotic fiction today is incredibly diverse, with everything from 'cinnamon roll' characters to alien hybrids and tentacled lovers. There’s definitely a wide range of preferences, and a good chunk do dislike the 'bad boy' trope. But the point I’m making isn’t that everyone who enjoys a particular trope in fiction literally wants to experience that scenario in real life. It’s more about why certain patterns, like the bad boy dynamic, recur so frequently in romantic ficti…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:35 PM
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But here's the distinction: violent video games often focus on the thrill of action and competition, not on real-life desires or emotional connections. They’re about excitement in a controlled environment. On the other hand, romantic fantasies, especially those involving 'bad boys' or toxic dynamics, often tap into deeper emotional or psychological needs. When people repeatedly gravitate toward these types of characters, it can reflect underlying desires or unresolved issues that they may not fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:31 PM
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It's not just books, it's actually even more prevalent in movies and tv shows, especially ones where the woman is in the centre of a love triangle. And also the few that do, tend to fall in the pattern I described in the op
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:29 PM
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You're definitely onto something with societal and religious pressures influencing behavior, and I totally get that the 'bad boy' represents freedom from that. He’s the guy who says 'go wild, no judgment.' But here’s where it gets interesting: if the 'bad boy' is the symbol of rebellion and fun, what does it say when women choose him in fiction and real life, even when they know he's bad news? It's not just about having fun or escaping oppression, there's a thrill in the chaos, unpredictability,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:26 PM
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I don’t think we do. Just take a visit to any relationship sub or any female centred sub, or literally anywhere on the internet where women are talking about relationships and their exes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:24 PM
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Your own OP admits that fantasies don’t align with real life at all. I think women have a vested interest in lying /not being truthful about what they are attracted to and for good reason
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:22 PM
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Here’s the key difference: violent video games are typically about entertainment and competition, not about romantic or emotional attraction. People play them for the thrill, strategy, or adrenaline rush, but there’s no expectation that these games mirror their real-life relationships. What I’m talking about is the consistent romanticization of certain types of relationship dynamics, like the 'bad boy' trope, in fiction, which often reflects what we see in real-life romantic choices. When certai…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:19 PM
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I totally agree that general intrigue and sexual interest are two different things. But that's exactly why I’m focusing on romantic tropes and not just random intrigue. When we see women repeatedly drawn to the 'bad boy' or 'toxic guy' in romantic contexts, whether in fiction or real life, it’s a bit more telling than simply enjoying dark, twisted characters like in Clockwork Orange or American Psycho. Those are stories of fascination, not romantic admiration. The reason I’m 'gendering' this que…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:16 PM
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I think we’ve drifted off-topic here. Monster porn is a wild, exaggerated fantasy. What I’m talking about is a bit more grounded: romantic preferences in both fiction and reality. When women fangirl over the 'bad boy' trope in stories and also seem to go for similar guys IRL, it raises the question: is the appeal just a fantasy, or does it bleed into real life? No one’s saying anyone literally wants to date a monster. But if fiction regularly features toxic or 'bad boy' types as the object of de…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:12 PM
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Touché with the anime reference, but I think we're mixing up genres here. 😄 Sure, women know the difference between fantasy and reality, just like dudes watching anime don't actually expect 15-year-old big-titty girls to show up in their living room. But that's not really the point, is it? The question is why certain fantasies are so appealing, especially when they seem to align with what we see happening in real life. If it's just 'fiction' and has no relation to what women want, why do these t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:10 PM
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I like horror, action, serial killers and non fiction. So does that mean I worship the devil, kill people, am a secret assassin? Ffs. Ah, the classic 'if I like horror, I must be a serial killer' defense. Clever, but a bit off the mark, don't you think? See, the difference is this: liking action movies or serial killer documentaries is pretty neutral because most people aren't romantically attracted to serial killers or assassins in real life (I hope). The point I'm making is about romantic pref…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:08 PM
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Why do we pretend that the fantasies we choose to indulge in aren't reflective of deeper desires or tendencies. I mean, if you consistently gravitate towards a particular trope in fiction, doesn't that say something about what excites or interests you on some level? And sure, everyone likes a bit of drama and intensity in their stories, but when women frequently idealize the 'bad boy' or toxic guy in both real life and fiction, it starts to look like more than just an escape. We’re not talking a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:03 PM
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I don't watch porn, but if i did, I would think those fantasies say something about my desires
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:58 PM
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Everyday I'm convinced that women are honestly the irrational gender🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 05:58 PM
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Yep, the principle that some guys are women magnets, while others are simps and try to keep a woman by pumping money into her are well known things. That's not what af/bb is? Infact most beta simps don't throw money at women, they are just not even aware the concept exists. A beta doesn't even have to be a simp, the af/bb is just nice guys finish last with a spin
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 07:21 AM
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Holy shit most of what you typed is absolutely delusional What is delusional about that take?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 07:18 AM
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Because they select well known things about dating, mix How is af/bb a well known thing? Last I checked most men grow up with a blue pilled worldview. then present it as "truth" to autistic, sheltered or psycholigically deficient men. If you think the Redpill is just a bunch of autistic men, you've got more problems than you realize
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 07:07 AM
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There's a reason they relate to those ideas, otherwise it wouldn't be possible to siphon money by talking about ideas that ppl don't relate ro
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 11:29 PM
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Believe it or not, most of us want what we say we want. Lol if that were true, there wouldn't be podcasts, books, webpages, psychologists wanting to decipher what y'all want. The entire premise of the Redpill, I'd the observation that what women sat they want often doesn't line up with what they go for
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 11:10 PM
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What I don't get is how you believe in alimony, but suddenly you have issues with paternity fraud. Prenups sounds like a good idea if they protect both parties, alimony for X amount of time depending on several factors sounds like a reasonable idea Isn't this a sign of lack of trust or faith in the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:49 PM
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Random question, You don't believe in prenups or Alimony and child support laws?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:39 PM
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If you think your partner doesn't deserve the same level of assurance that the baby is also his, and that trusting you is the solution, you're just a manipulative asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:20 PM
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I mean the fact that a lot of women are very sneaky. Women are not the virtuous little angles we've 🐝 conditioned to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:09 PM
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Asking for a paternity test is just a rational decision, women choosing to centre their own feelings is a testament to their emotional less rational nature. It means that parenthood is a large financial investment and people should be protected from investing hundreds of thousands of dollars based upon false information. This is like saying that mandatory auditing just kind of assumes business owners are lying. No, actually. We just want to make sure that people don't make life altering financia…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:38 PM
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It isn't a case of choosing better. This is something that any woman is capable of if the circumstances are right
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:35 PM
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It's a travesty that rhetoric like this has turned paternity testing into some kind of accusation. Performing due diligence before investing hundreds of thousands of dollars is simply par for the course. In no other context is it acceptable or sane to spend $250k+ and thousands of hours of your life based upon someone's word when there's no need for that word in the first place over a simple and accessible test. It's really that simple. Parenthood is a large monetary and time investment and we o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:34 PM
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Thats your choice but its not up to you have others interpret it. People do not like being tested. They dont like it early in an relationship so they certainly not going to like it when its so serious you have a child together. Isn't this the good ol' women are more emotional than rational? Seems the stereotype has some truth to it. It's a travesty that rhetoric like this has turned paternity testing into some kind of horrible accusation. Performing due diligence before investing hundreds of tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:34 PM
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I mean isn't that why guys accuse women of being more emotional than rational? Seems they are right
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:28 PM
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And if you have reasons to believe they’ve been unfaithful, you address that separately. Unless shes an angel with a halo on her head, he absolutely should be concerned...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:26 PM
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The median rate of paternity discrepancy worldwide seems to be 3.7% ). Id wager if they were to conduct a world wide mandatory paternity test, the results would be shocking. If my husband had no good reason to mistrust me Have you never told a lie your entire life? If yes that's the only reason you should be advocating for trust, if you've lied before in your life and still advocating trust you're just being manipulative. that's an insult to my character and it shows how little he trusts me afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:25 PM
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You either trust the person you’re in a relationship with or you don’t. You don't understand human nature don't you. How naive. Most people have probably lied about something at one point in their lives. Why are you advocating for trust in the face of this undeniable fact?🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:18 PM
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I think it's more of a demonstration of peak female narcissism. The woman is essentially centering her own feelings on something that would impact her the least if things turn out side ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:16 PM
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They are looking out for their self interest. Being with a man that does not trust them is not in their self interest... Their self interest being af/bb, get babies with any hot guy they like, then try to pass off the kid to someone who'll stick around to raise it. Thats the kind of opportunity a world without mandatory paternity fraud affords them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:15 PM
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I have to say I disagree with you. 1. Trusting someone doesn't necessarily make them infallible. How is not wanting to waste your life on false assumptions "trust issues"? Paternity is something very big. I'd rather not take chances. There are a large number of people who never suspected their spouse of cheating and yet it turns out "their" kid is not actually theirs. It happens, maybe even more than we realize considering why govt's never thought to make it mandatory. What is the harm in making…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:08 PM
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Regardless, you have no commitment or love between neighbors so it’s not really comparable. Say your neighbor was your brother. And let's imagine in this hypothetical, thieves weren't usually outsiders. Would locking your door be an accusation on your brother?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:00 PM
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However, he'd also have to find a marriage counselor and a therapist to sort out his trust issues because I'm not going to sit around and pretend like he didn't just insinuate that there's a very real chance that not only have I cheated but that I got pregnant, and am trying to pass it off as his. Why are ppl pretending that this is an unlikely scenario? Humans are wired to look out for their self interest even if it's at the expense of others. Are you aware that iphone you're typing away at is …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:57 PM
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I don't understand how ppl take it as an accusation. I mean to me it sounds like saying, locking your door is an accusation on your neighbors
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:53 PM
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Trusting someone doesn't make them infallible
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:52 PM
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trust implicitly. Isn't this a toll order tho? If anything no one should be trusted implicitly that is as far as human nature is any indication
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:52 PM
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Is locking your door an accusation on your neighbors that they're are thieves?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:51 PM
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child that is biologically his, and do all that just for him to demand a paternity test Isn't performing due diligence simply par for the course tho🤔 especially with something as important as kids, u less ofcourse you're willing to argue that you are above cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:50 PM
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You're being too idealistic. Often times this response is subconscious
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:14 PM
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Then abortion should be the default option, unless the party wants to take care of it both personally and financially
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:25 AM
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It is, unless you're not planning to come after my money
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:24 AM
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I could very well see such a world having, an equal rights equal lefts policy, a world without female privilege is not a world I would wish on any woman
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:55 PM
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Y'all are acting daft, as if you don't know what I mean. Just consider why men get upset or even care about a woman's bodycount. Men have a tendency to pedestalize women they love, I'm not sure if it's something innate or condition but it is what it is. Consider an example... Men's reaction of their women's past. It's something that I've seen come up in quite some relationships, and it's quite troubling for some guys, it really eats them up inside. They learn a few details of their woman's sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:49 PM
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I don't think you would want to live in a world without female privilege,just ask the ugly girls. Heck men, don't treat each other nice at all
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:26 PM
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Concepts such as af/bb, preselection, monkey branching are pretty hard to notice if you've not tasted the Redpill. If it weren't for the Redpill, a lot more single moms would be getting remarried, trp has just awakened a lot of men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:24 PM
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Not, particularly, but I fail to understand why you would ask me that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:18 PM
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Most ppl don't make mistakes, they are completely aware of what they are doing, they just don't care enough not to at the moment
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:17 PM
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So how do you explain women being able to get away with stuff a man wouldn'tm or the empathy gap(using it loosely to mean empathy one is afforded) that exists in society?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:16 PM
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The idea isn’t that every person fits neatly into the Alpha F***s or Beta Bucks categories. It’s more of a framework to understand certain trends in attraction and behavior. Sure, not everyone falls strictly into these extremes, but that doesn’t mean the patterns aren’t real or significant. Preselection? You’re right—being popular does add to your social value, but it’s not just about popularity. It’s about how that preselection triggers deep, evolutionary instincts in people, especially women, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:14 PM
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Wow, jumping straight to the ‘were you sheltered’ card? That’s a bit of a reach. But let’s break this down. It’s not about being only exposed to Disney or having overprotective parents—it’s about the broader cultural impact those narratives have, especially when they’re among the first ones you encounter as a kid. Sure, I wasn’t living in a bubble of rainbows and talking animals, but when you’re young, those Disney ideals leave a strong impression, shaping how you initially see the world. drama …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:08 PM
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What's your definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:43 PM
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Radical suggestion: Maybe we’d better off treating women like people. I’m sure you view yourself as a complex, multifaceted person with desires, dreams, goals, motivations, values, wants and needs. Try treated women like that, like they possess all the same complexities that you do. Like they’re not just wonderful or evil with no middle ground and no compromise. Nobody is wonderful and very few people are really evil. We’re all just trying to get through the day, the week, the year, and life. Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:43 PM
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What are redpill supposed truths? A perfect concept would be, AF/BB, preselection, monkey branching, are one of the things that Redpill hit the nail perfectly on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:41 PM
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Having sisters makes it impossible to reach age 5 and think women are sweet and wonderful, let alone teenage years haha I disagree actually. I noticed a lot of these nice guys/simps or dudes in the friendzone grew up with a lot of female influence in their lives, which is quite ironic 💀 you'd expect the reverse to happen, it's seems the women and girls they interacted with reinforced the notion that nice guys were preferred and bad boys were deceptive mistakes that just happened. They then think…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:38 PM
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Not particularly no, women from a young age always know what to expect from men, that's why they don't react to cheating the same way, they are bitten with it early on that men are not nice people
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:33 PM
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Fair point, but it’s not about taking fairy tales literally. The issue is how these stories contribute to broader societal norms and expectations. While you might have seen them as mere fantasy, many people absorb and internalize these narratives’ underlying messages about gender roles and relationships. Consider the 'bad boy' trope in movies where a girl believes she can 'fix' a troubled guy with her love. This idea isn’t taken literally, but it still impacts real-world perceptions and behavior…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:30 PM
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It’s not about taking fairy tales literally; it’s about recognizing how media influences our expectations and perceptions, whether we realize it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:22 PM
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Rather than a simple critique of folklore, this argument is about understanding how media shapes societal views and individual expectations. The Redpill perspective critiques these portrayals for promoting a distorted view of female behavior and relationships, suggesting that they contribute to a misunderstanding of gender dynamics. While not all critiques are perfect, dismissing them as 'bad-faith' overlooks the nuanced ways media can impact real-life perceptions and behaviors
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:19 PM
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It’s amusing how people often mislabel blue pill as merely being skeptical of Redpill theories. Blue pill isn’t just about opposing Redpill ideas—it’s about accepting the comfortable, sanitized view of the world. It’s the belief in a romanticized narrative that glosses over reality for the sake of maintaining a neat, pleasant illusion. In reality, blue pill is more about embracing an idealistic and often naive worldview that can’t always handle the messiness of real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:06 PM
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Ah, so you’ve always been a beacon of clear-eyed realism—lucky you! But here’s the thing: not everyone grew up with the same perspective. The blue pill narrative isn’t just about individual experiences; it’s about the collective cultural conditioning that glorifies women while downplaying their flaws. Some guys are raised on a steady diet of fairy tales and romcoms, believing in a version of women that’s more myth than reality. For them, the Redpill isn’t about ignorance but a harsh awakening fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:04 PM
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It’s not about personal failings; it’s about the pervasive societal conditioning that insists women are inherently virtuous and men are the problem. Sure, everyone encounters unpleasant individuals, but the issue is the widespread, culturally reinforced belief that women are beyond reproach, otherwise why would concepts like Madonna-whore complex exist? The blue pill is essentially saying, most women are Madonna's, it's only a select few who are " "
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:00 PM
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It's also really funny when RP men point to Disney movies as standing for the proposition that all women are wonderful magical creatures. What about all the evil witches/stepmother? Also they conveniently ignore that for every perfect princess there's a perfect Prince Charming. We’re talking about Disney movies, where fantasy and reality collide in the most convenient ways. Sure, there are evil characters, but they’re not the focus of these fairy tales. Disney movies are designed to deliver a fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:56 PM
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The Redpill isn’t about ignoring reality; it’s about understanding it on a deeper level. Sure, some people have had their share of difficult experiences with women, but the Redpill shines a spotlight on systemic patterns and deeper truths, not just the "I once dated a mean girl" anecdotes. Stifled Childhoods? Now, this is where you show your hand. The Redpill isn’t about living in a bubble; it’s about waking up from one. It’s about recognizing patterns that society at large often tries to gloss …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:53 PM
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While the restrictions may seem repressive, there are reasons why they might be beneficial for society at large. These restrictions historically served as a mechanism for maintaining social order and stability. By promoting certain standards of behavior, societies aimed to create a framework within which individuals could interact harmoniously. The idea was that clear norms and expectations helped to regulate relationships and ensure a degree of predictability and trust within communities. In co…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:48 PM
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You don't think that assumption is valid and actually has a probable bearing in reality ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:31 PM
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If she dated assholes or guys who treated her as such then later she decides to find the opposite, thats a good example. Idk about you, but I think it's fairly common
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:29 PM
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but I think it’s poor character to treat “sluts” with cruelty and unkindness. Isn't that Human nature tho? I mean to draw another parallel, attractive ppl are treated way better than ugly people, and this goes for both genders and dare I say everything else. You kill a cockroach you're a hero, if you kill a butterfly you're a monster. Morality and good treat is heavily influenced by aesthetics
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:25 PM
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It's pretty clear that you don't know much about science when you respond to basic facts about neurological development the way that you have. I think that's about all we need to know from you on your grasp of science. Ah, the classic “You just don’t understand science” rebuttal—a fan favorite. But let’s be real, throwing out terms like “neurological development” without context is the intellectual equivalent of saying, “Because I said so.” The fact is, science is complex and messy, not some bla…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:09 AM
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Again, I find this a weird way to look at things. Men do the same thing. I’ve talked to so many guys irl who say they learned that the women they prioritized in their youth were not it. Because they grew up, they matured, this happens to most people who have options and don’t stop developing mid-adolescence. You see the world differently. Many men had a type and then fell for someone totally different and/or learned to prioritize different qualities because they saw the relationship results from…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 03:02 PM
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To many women he absolutely would be a Chad I mean he is a pro athlete worth millions. But for her I would say he is a “high value man” rather than a Chad and that’s who most women want to marry. I never said women want to marry Chads, I just said they want a certain caliber of man usually one who is good looking enough for them to have attraction and has money to provide. That’s gonna look different for different women, Ciara being a celebrity was looking for a wealthy male celeb who was young …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:34 AM
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Oh, sure, let’s all just hold hands and pretend that "plenty of men" are out there eagerly lining up for women their own age. Maybe in some alternate universe where Tinder doesn’t exist, and Instagram isn’t flooded with 22-year-olds living their best lives. But back here on planet Earth, men, especially those with options, aren’t exactly clamoring for women who are the same age as they are. It’s not just "manosphere grifters" saying this—it’s called reality. Look, it's biology and social dynamic…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:48 AM
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Oh, please. This whole "people mature as they age" narrative is the ultimate cop-out, and you know it. Let’s be real: when you’re in your twenties, you’re not some carefree puppy just frolicking through fields of non-committal fun. You’re out there sampling the buffet of options because you can. And guess what? Those options don’t magically shrink because you suddenly "mature" at 25 or 30. They shrink because the people who could get away with flings in their early twenties are now facing the ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:46 AM
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If Ciara couldn’t get a Russell Wilson she would be complaining about being single too she wouldn’t “date down” some regular guy even though she easily could. She is very attractive and rich even with the kid she would have had a lot men after her. Russell Wilson is no Chad, he's actually the definition of billy beta. The nice guy who pays all the bills, and helps around the house, and raises another man's child. That is literally the point. Future the alpha pumped and dumped her ass, so she had…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:19 PM
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My point is many would choose that over settling and marrying some below average low status man. The idea that women turn 30 and suddenly scramble to date down is a myth, even if such women lower their standards they still want to “date up”. They rarely ever go the opposite direction no matter how old they are. If they are real desperate they become a single mom of some attractive guy they can’t lock down they don’t marry Billy Bob who drives the bus and had a crush on her since the 4th grade. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:18 PM
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Attractive men do not blow off women for sex for being in their 30s. Why would attractive men entertaining a beat up coochie when they can get a young beautiful woman with less baggage?🤔 think the real reason 30s women “settle” is because that’s when men in their age range become viable options for settling Lmao 30s women still chase Chads though well the one’s with careers. That’s why so many 30s women are still single asking where the good men are by good men they still mean “Chad” but with mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:50 PM
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women in their 30s have “figured it out” is just a nice way of saying they’re adapting to their shrinking options. Biology didn’t suddenly rewire itself because they aged a few years—they just realized that the alphas aren’t knocking on their door anymore, so it’s time to settle down. And yeah, people tend to get more stable and calm with age, but let’s not pretend that suddenly makes them immune to their old desires. If anything, it’s more like, “Well, those were the fun years. Time to find som…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:32 PM
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observations and experiences are very different. I wouldn’t call most women I know over 30 desperate - usually the opposite. Young women seem more desperate usually because of the lack of self-assurance, underdeveloped self-esteem and they’re often still riding the wave of intense need for the approval of others (pretty common, we all went to high school), social status, they lack material wealth and often (not always) when they like older men, it’s partly or entirely because they feel they need…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:06 PM
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Again, science. If you don’t read much, just say that. Not sure what else to tell you, but I won’t be denying neurological facts to accommodate bitter feelings. Ah, the good ol "science" card, because apparently, throwing out the word "neurological" is a mic drop moment. Here’s the thing: just because you slap “science” onto your argument doesn’t automatically make it airtight. You want to talk about science? Fine, let’s do it. Science tells us that human behavior is influenced by a cocktail of …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:33 PM
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Why do you think a woman needs to choose a good quality partner to not be alone? Do you know many women? Or men? We don’t need to choose well to not be single. If anything, many of us don’t. Oh, so now the argument is that women don’t need to choose “good quality” partners to avoid being single? Thanks for the clarification, Captain Obvious, but that’s not even the point. Sure, anyone can settle with a subpar partner and technically not be “alone,” but what kind of life are they actually signing…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:26 PM
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Lol Again, you seem to be struggling with basic realities of what it means to grow up. I’m not sure what to tell you Sure, because acknowledging patterns in human behavior must mean someone’s out of touch with reality, right? The point isn’t about expecting teenagers to be wise beyond their years or make flawless decisions. It’s about recognizing the predictable cycle that many go through—falling for the bad boys when they’re young and only realizing later, after life has knocked them around a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:20 PM
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Because the degree to which we crave it is not the smae
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:48 AM
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"He was a very nice guy, caring, always ready to listen, respectful, and I had no reason to feel uncomfortable around him but I just did. I just couldn't see myself being with him. Then one year later, I dated a complete and utter moron whom I regret dating lol. But I don't regret rejecting the first guy, we're still on good terms and talk from time to time. I just wish I rejected him in a more mature way but ehh I was 17 and naive." "The thing is, he's smart and funny and super nice and actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:58 AM
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I feel like this post point to a bigger problem which is the fact that men would rather stay in an unhealthy toxic relationship than just stay alone because what the fuck is this? Why would a man rather stay with a woman who crave this extremely toxic dynamic instead of break up and living alone? Y’all should learn a thing or two from women about raising your standards because this ain’t it. Men kind of have to adopt or wait to be beta bucks. Women being honest, "Good guys are just not it" Editi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:58 AM
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Nope. Most well adjusted men with stable families are genuinely nice guys. This whole thing is just cope There's literally hundreds if not thousands of videos on the internet in girly circles of how men with good intentions are not as fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:48 AM
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We have very different social circles and understanding of what “nice” means, because most dating/married women I know closely generally engage with stable men who are neither volatile nor pushovers. A good partner has boundaries. If this is true, we wouldn't be seeing a rise of the Redpill movement. As I’ve said women dating bad guys are troubled themselves. They aren’t women you’d want to engage. Fantasies don't exist in a vacuum. Just take a stroll down the aisles of any bookstore. What do yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:26 AM
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Toxic people attract toxic people. Decent people can definitely get fooled by the facade toxic people often put on at first, but if someone keeps dumping stable people for toxic ones? They’re toxic too. Lol. I'll approach this by saying, fantasies do not exist in a vacuum. So how could that be true? Just take a stroll down the aisles of any bookstore. What do you see in the bestsellers? Romance novels where the plot is more twisted than a pretzel, and thrillers dripping with drama. And who’s lap…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:22 AM
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Women crave emotional depth, not just stability. They want to feel something intense—whether it’s passion, frustration, or even anger—because these emotions make the relationship feel alive. Nice guys, in their quest to avoid conflict and keep things smooth, often strip the relationship of these emotional highs and lows. Nice guys finish last not because women are inherently drawn to bad boys, but because nice guys misunderstand the nature of attraction. They misinterpret emotional stability as …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:20 AM
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The real reason nice guys finish last isn’t because women are irrational or inherently drawn to toxicity. It’s because these “nice guys” are fundamentally misreading the rules of attraction. Attraction is not built on kindness alone—if it were, the world would be full of happily paired nice guys and no one else. Instead, attraction is built on emotional engagement, tension, and, yes, power dynamics. When a man adopts the “nice guy” persona, what he’s often doing is relinquishing his own power in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:17 AM
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You guys need to learn about attachment styles. All of the regular PPD complains about "women liking bad guys" are women who are not able to have a secure healthy attachment When you look at it from a psychological standpoint, playing it safe in relationships is a one-way ticket to irrelevance. It’s like watching a movie where nothing ever happens—no one’s going to stick around for that. Women might not consciously realize it, but when they drift away from the “nice guy,” it’s often because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:14 AM
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Let’s dive into why the so-called “bad boys” seem to get the girl. It’s not because they’re inherently better; it’s because they’re tapping into a psychological drive that nice guys overlook. These guys aren’t afraid to create tension, to introduce uncertainty, to push emotional buttons. They’re not playing it safe, and in doing so, they’re engaging a woman’s emotions in a way that a “nice guy” rarely does. The unpredictability, the challenge, the emotional rollercoaster—they all create a dynami…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:11 AM
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it's deeply rooted in psychology. Humans are wired to seek out experiences that make them feel alive, and that includes emotional experiences. When a relationship is too stable, too predictable, it starts to feel stagnant. And when something feels stagnant, we instinctively look for ways to stir things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:08 AM
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it's deeply rooted in psychology. Humans are wired to seek out experiences that make them feel alive, and that includes emotional experiences. When a relationship is too stable, too predictable, it starts to feel stagnant. And when something feels stagnant, we instinctively look for ways to stir things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:06 AM
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Why do women seem to go for the guys who are, let’s say, less traditionally “nice”? Because emotional engagement is the real currency in relationships. This is where most nice guys drop the ball. They equate being conflict-free with being a good partner, when in reality, relationships thrive on emotional depth and complexity. Women don’t crave chaos for the sake of chaos—they crave the emotional engagement that comes with it. This doesn’t mean she wants constant drama, but she needs to feel some…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:06 AM
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The takeaway here is Stop trying to be the perfect, nice guy who never stirs the pot. She doesn’t want peace; she wants passion. She doesn’t want predictability; she wants excitement. Give her the chaos she craves, make her cry a few times (within reason, obviously), and let her experience the full spectrum of emotions in the relationship. That’s what she’s really there for—the emotional experience, the highs, the lows, the everything in between. So, forget about being “Mr. Nice Guy” who finishe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:02 AM
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It's not like they have a lot of alternatives. It's either they miss out when ppl are having all the fun and wait to be a beta shmuck for a woman later on in her thirties or they can adapt and do what's necessary. Very few women are attracted to total peace in a relationship. Think about it—everything in a woman’s life is timed and planned out. Her biological clock is always ticking: menstruation, ovulation, pregnancy, menopause. It’s all mapped out in a way that’s almost too predictable. So, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:58 AM
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Sorry, but I don't have bpd. I don't have time for games and drama. He can take his ass right out that door the moment he intentionally creates drama in my life. The emotional highs and lows of a toxic relationship are addicting, it's the same reason why ppl get hooked on gambling. It’s not the toxicity itself she’s drawn to, but the intensity of the emotions. Anger, passion, jealousy—these are all part of the chaotic cocktail that keeps her hooked. When you make a woman feel something—even if i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:54 AM
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Really it just helps prevent crazy dudes from intruding on the lives of women who crave stable, peaceful, content, sane, behaviorally mature, and kind men who don't make us cry. If this were true the Redpill movement wouldn't exist lest be honest. By teaching about concepts like af/bb, friendzone, the Redpill is essentially aiming to get rid of the soft dependable guy(the fallback plan) as some kind of bitter jab at women, maybe because they've realized a trend... Let’s break this down. Nice guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:52 AM
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You ever wonder why the nice guy—the one who’s respectful, attentive, and emotionally available—always seems to finish last? Meanwhile, the toxic guy, the one who leaves a trail of emotional destruction in his wake, somehow ends up getting the girl first? Spoiler alert: It’s not because women are just into bad boys for no reason. It’s because they crave the chaos that comes with the package.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:47 AM
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To be a rebel is to go against the norm. If most women liked bad boys most men would be bad, and being good would be rebellious, instead most men are not bad and yet somehow they manage to date women. 1 in 3 women will be a victim of domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:32 PM
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I disagree, I think quite a lot of women are attracted to men who wouldn't exactly make the best partners regardless of looks. Women are attracted to bad boys for the sam reasons humans are attracted to rebellion. part of the appeal isn’t the sheer thrill of doing what you’re not supposed to. We’re all wired to be drawn to the forbidden. You tell someone not to push the red button, and guess what? That button’s getting pushed faster than you can say “reverse psychology.” Rebellion is that forbid…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:25 PM
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Women may not want to to be with a bad man, but I think it's bad men that give them the tinglez. If women consistently chose genuinely good, honest men, the narrative would be quite different, I fact we would be living in a bluepilled utopia instead of a Redpill awakening. But instead, we see a pattern where aggressive, dominant traits are rewarded, and the nice guys are left wondering why their kindness doesn’t seem to pay off. All the women and girls that most men interacted with reinforced th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:03 PM
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It boils down to this... Women by and large would rather have a man with a spine who mistreats her, than have a spineless pushover who treats them like a princess
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:56 PM
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The maturation of the adolescent brain doesn’t finish until mid-late 20s and any half-credible psychologist can tell you that people tend to make romantic decisions based on childhood trauma and models exposed to them in youth. It can indeed take 14 years to work through that, easily. Ah, the classic tale of women finally figuring it all out in their 30s or 40s, right? It's almost as if they suddenly wake up one day and go, "You know what? I was totally wrong in my 20s—what I actually want is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:12 PM
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Everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:15 PM
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This is really the first generation where sex in a relationship is so sacred and sleeping with anyone outside of the relationship is so taboo. The argument that this is the first generation where sex within relationships is considered sacred and taboo to have outside of them is quite flawed. Monogamy and the expectation of sexual exclusivity have been deeply ingrained in many cultures for centuries. The idea that sex and commitment should go hand in hand is not some newfangled concept; it's a va…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:32 PM
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At the end of the day, men will do what benefits them. They want the conservative wife/gf and the sexually-liberated mistress. It's the lesser of two bad options wouldn't you agree
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:13 PM
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Your view of loyalty is not sleeping with anyone else. To some that's not what loyalty means, and that's fine That's what it has been for a very long time. This new libfem bullshit is actually a big problem, trying to redefine everything and blur lines. It's one of the things, wrong with the world today
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:51 AM
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Why not discourage both men and women equally from being promiscuous? A man can feel himself to be as promiscuous as he please, but still not be able to sleep with a woman. The ease with which women are able to sleep around, makes more reasonable to preach self-restraint on their side
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:43 AM
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Like, there’s no stigma against casual friends and acquaintances, but no one thinks they are equal to close friends or a best friend. Why wouldn’t people be able to distinguish between types of romantic relationships, if they’re able to do it for friendships? Well, if the posts on Reddit are anything to go by, the genders have a mismatch in what they consider ideal. For most men being considered hookup material is more validating than being considered relationship material, leading to situations…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:40 AM
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I'd love to live in a world where ppl aren't compelled to seek partners from third world countries, just because they can't get their ideal mates in their own country, and I aspire for a society with little to no incels. That whole passport bro movement is exploitative asf
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:36 AM
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The puppy cannot consent by the way, so no kinky person enjoys hitting puppies or children. Humans are wired to be gentle with things and people that they love, this is true especially for men. If a guy gets a boner while grabbing your windpipe, there's probably little to love there to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:03 AM
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BDSM allows me to turn off being in charge in a situation where I’m safe and cared for and turned on. I actively can’t sabotage myself and my need to turn off by trying to be in charge, because I’m restrained/blindfolded/etc How that translates to bdsm Is just beyond me, you consider some couch time. Might help you unlock things you didn't even know you were battling with
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:32 AM
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sweetie don’t you worry, I love vanilla sex as much as the next person. I also value variety and novelty to keep a long term relationship hot and heavy, that’s how you keep a loving and sexy marriage hon. You may want to do some research on that, since you seem so utterly clueless. If you require all that to sustain your marriage, I'm afraid you may have more problems than you realize
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:28 AM
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BDSMers sound like the christian conservatives I used to know who would gaslight women by saying "God wants you to be submissive to your husband, but that's really the most powerful and important position *wink wink*", but then in 90% of practice was anything but. Why do people always defend this freak shit? You’re fucked in the head if you get sexual gratification from causing or suffering pain. Kinky people are as mentally healthy as vanilla people: https Do you think BDSM is healthy? Quote fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:22 AM
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Absolutely not. Men who are truly disgusted by violence against women are not getting erections by choking, hitting, kicking, and slapping women. The only correlation here is between BDSM and a porn addiction. There is a lot of relation between BDSM and rationalizing abuse. Like how some men think MOST women have rape fantasies or into other violent kinks. Justifying slapping, beating, choking, harming, and “pretending” to rape women is not normal. Can we fucking stop this libfem bullshit? i pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:12 AM
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No hon, some people really just enjoy new physical sensations. Lol, I'm pretty sure even you don't believe that is what bdsm is all about
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:02 AM
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As a kinky person, among other things, CNC does not normalize rape, it makes even clearer what is consent and what is not. Well I think you have to ask yourself why you can only be turned on by violence against you. Kinks are formed by environment not something you are born with. When you hit puberty you didn’t suddenly get the urge to get tied up, choked, slapped etc, those developed through experience and environment. Maybe that’s all you’ve been exposed to through porn or bad partners so that…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:50 AM
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Considering one man can have multiple baby mamas, somebody like future or nick canon, I'm pretty sure, it's a single mom crisis, esp of social media is anything to go by
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:41 AM
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The point here is that the broader societal shifts around sex and relationships can have ripple effects. If casual sex and less commitment become the norm, it might impact relationship stability on a larger scale, which is worth discussing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:38 AM
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Why does your post essentially put this blame onto women? Women are the gatekeepers How? Isn't it obvious? Promiscuous ppl have a pretty bad record when it comes to stable long term relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:34 AM
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If men get to live up the single life and be players then women are just as justified to do the same. No wonder there's a baby mama apocalypse and a generation of ppl with baggage
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:33 AM
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Look, the argument isn't about romanticizing the past or limiting women’s freedom. It's about assessing whether the current cultural shift toward total sexual freedom and casual relationships might be affecting the stability of relationships and family structures. Sure, men might talk about the "good old days," but the concern here is whether the normalization of promiscuity and the devaluation of commitment could be making relationships more unstable across the board. The focus isn’t on restric…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:20 AM
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The discussion around traditional values and monogamy is more about addressing potential societal trends and their consequences. It’s about whether changes in cultural norms around sex and relationships might influence the stability of relationships and family units on a larger scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:17 AM
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By reinforcing traditional values and socially enforced monogamy, we might see a return to more stable family structures. A little bit of shaming isn’t necessarily a bad thing—it can help maintain social norms that encourage long-term commitment and responsible behavior. If society put more emphasis on monogamy and the benefits of stable relationships, people might be more likely to invest in their families and relationships, leading to fewer single-parent households and reduced reliance on welf…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:16 AM
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Sure, many men and women still crave meaningful connections, and that’s great. But the worry is that as casual sex becomes more normalized, it might make people less likely to invest in the kind of deep, committed relationships that are crucial for long-term stability. It’s not about saying that hookup culture is the sole villain or that everyone’s motivations are just about sex. It’s about examining whether these cultural shifts might be affecting how people approach relationships and commitmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:07 AM
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I understand the sentiment about idealizing the past, and I agree that the past had its own set of issues. However, the argument isn’t about reverting to old norms but about understanding the potential consequences of current cultural shifts. It’s not about denying progress but about questioning if the current trajectory is sustainable in the long term and if it could be leading to unintended consequences, such as less investment in relationships, single motherhood or contributing to higher divo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:04 AM
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Sure, if someone wants a monogamous relationship, they can still pursue that. However, when promiscuity becomes normalized, it can shift societal expectations and influence behavior on a larger scale. Normalizing casual sex can inadvertently lead to less investment in relationships because people might see them as more disposable. This shift can contribute to issues like the baby mama epidemic and rising divorce rates. It’s not about making monogamous relationships illegal; it’s about considerin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:02 AM
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The difference between a nice guy and a toxic guy is simple really. What if the "bad boys" women prefer are just disagreeable? Nice guys are simply just agreeable ppl. Agreeable people are those who place the other person's interest above their own, so they might come off as "push-overs" or "weak" even if they aren't really. Disagreeable people place their own interest before anyone elses, making them seem "jerks" even if they're not necessarily doing anything immoral. As Peterson says, if you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:19 PM
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You don't think the material conditions In a country affects its dating culture???? Are you serious 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:05 AM
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How things are in other countries doesn't really affect much dating in the western ones. Except the conditions in other countries severely enable the material conditions In the west that in turn shape up the dating scape over here. The west would be pretty poor if it weren't for their exploitation in the global south
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:55 AM
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Men are physically stronger, but do you see them benefitting from it in our modern world especially in the context of dating or family life? Maybe not so much more in the cushy western world, but as someone who's visited a lot of countries in the global south, being a strong man has its perks. The US have economic power above everything else which is more important in our current societies. Part of the reason they have such great economic power has a lot more to do with physical aggression again…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:50 AM
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women are naturally caregiving Hard disagree on this part. A man has to really like a woman to seriously consider her needs and go out of his way to make her happiness his priority; maybe I'm biased, but that's what I feel is true But you hit the nail on the head with this one, I'll concede.it makes a lot of sense actually
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:46 AM
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Also the US dominating the world arena doesn't prove anything about patriarchy considering the US, just as most other western countries, has remains of patriarchy, but not legally enforced patriarchy anymore It proves the the premise of my argument. That whoever has the power, the threat of forceful retaliation is able to call the shots. If you apply this principle to the genders, then yes, men do have the power. Countries are able to deprive women of of rights, because women don't pause much of…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:38 AM
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And does that really matter because without Hedy Lamarr you wouldn’t be on Reddit! And without women none of what you are talking about would exist either. What makes you think some other man wouldn't have invented it? Or made the same contributions later on?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:27 AM
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Lets do a little thought experiment. Find me a country where women are not allowed to contribute to the sciences and industry and tell me about how they are pumping out innovations like the internet or cell phones If a military or police force can run with no women, what makes you think they'd be issues in science and industry?🤔 For a long period in history women were excluded from Education esp the science, and we still turned out just fine
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:26 AM
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Why do you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:22 AM
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And I just get to sit back and hope the "good" men who for some reason have my best interests in mind over theirs will win this dumbass battle? That's what makes them good is it not? Plus I feel like there are other ways to keep bad people in check, ways that don't involve one gender having "authority" over the other, and you just don't want to entertain those ideas, for some reason. What ways? Men take lots of authority they don't deserve Authority can be both earned and taken, still fair game.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:21 AM
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it's all been said before, never gonna happen. men are too competative to have the ability to organize in a matter like this to benifit each other Then how the fuck did men manage to create patriarchal system that works?🤔 Men are more cooperative, it's why they make better soldiers lol, this has been common knowledge since forever. Toxic masculinity is one helluva drug. Men to act very similar once in a group. in a matter like this to benifit each other. no man is gonna be okay allowing his moth…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:59 AM
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We do not live by the right of the strong one anymore. Hence Whoever has the most power is more capable to enforce their will this principle is demonstatably true in many aspects of real life. How else do you think America is able to become a world bully
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:38 AM
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but why would “simps” (fuck I hate this word) do badly with women? You have no information that happens except what you are told by redpill. Simps doing horribly with women Is literally what gave rise to the RedPill, concepts like the friendzone, AF/BB, nice guy Finnish last
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:16 PM
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While I do agree with you on that part about women enjoying sex, I do think women settle more than they'd like to admit. See the thing is, the men who have exactly what women want and are attracted to are also the least likely ones to give it to to them. So what a lot of women do, they compromise on their physical standards for men in an effort to secure both good sex and commitment, instead of just sex with the hot guy they genuinely want who'll probably never commit or go the The AF/BB riute. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:47 AM
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They are the biggest contributors to the decline in romantic relationships. No one really wants a job, they want what Jobs can give them namely money. For most people a job is the only way they know to get money.If people could get what they wanted more easily more cheaply or more safely then they probably wouldn't get a job and the same is true for relationships. Most people don't want relationships, they want what relationships can give them. Men trade in time, energy, attention and money for …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:14 AM
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Also missing a key element which is many of these fuckboys will lie and act like that's what they want until they get what they actually want What about women's intuition?🤔, what about women not falling for "Niceguys" because they come off as disingenous? How come they never smell this disingenuousness from chads?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:37 AM
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Women aren’t stupid or bad at choosing partners. They choose Chad and then let the chips fall where they may They pick non-chads who are abusive too I'm afraid
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:30 AM
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Being friends with a girl who wouldn't fuck you even if you were the last person on earth is the equivalent of a woman sleeping with a man who'd never see her as anything other than a sex toy I'm sure you can understand why the bitterness ensues
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:55 PM
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Compromising is what settling is
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 01:06 AM
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No man would choose an ugly woman if he can get a beautiful one. The same is true for women. There's a lot of settling out here mate
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:02 PM
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I addressed that in the op
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:35 PM
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knowing that your girl might have been touched before It isn't about her being untouched though. It's about her being some other guy's slut for the night. I'm sure even you can see the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:12 PM
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If she's cute, I would consider it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:36 AM
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Hard disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:34 AM
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On the contrary, if you display hoe behavior and regularly talk about how casually you view sex and relationships then you won’t be able to leave the “recreation only” category to me. You gave yourself away here mate. This is exactly the train of thought behind every man who cares about bodycount
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 06:46 AM
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Height is a genetic trait, promiscuity is a behavioral thing. So I believe there's something more to it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:33 PM
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OK, example. I wouldn't buy a car with a pronounced rod knock or 300k miles on it but I would absolutely drive that bitch into the dust until the engine blew up. Now on the other hand, let's say that you meet another girl, who's only been with 1 guy in her entire life, but that one man, was the handsome popular guy in town, who went on to have a lucrative career, she slept with him on the 1st date, went on to have all kinds of hot passionate sex with him, didn't mind that he was a playboy, maybe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:29 PM
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OK, example. I wouldn't buy a car with a pronounced rod knock or 300k miles on it but I would absolutely drive that bitch into the dust until the engine blew up. Here's why I disagree with the parallel you want to draw with that analogy. Feel free to rebut Here's my point, men's emotional reaction to a woman's sexual past has less to do with the actual sheer number of a woman's past partners and more to do with what she has done or not done with him relative to what she has done or not done with…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:24 PM
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OK, example. I wouldn't buy a car with a pronounced rod knock or 300k miles on it but I would absolutely drive that bitch into the dust until the engine blew up. Here's why I disagree with the parallel you want to draw with that analogy. Feel free to rebut Here's my point, men's emotional reaction to a woman's sexual past has less to do with the actual sheer number of a woman's past partners and more to do with what she has done or not done with him relative to what she has done or not done with…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:24 PM
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How so? Care to offer some examples
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:13 PM
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They don't have to, my question was simply out of curiosity and a sense of engagement
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:12 PM
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So let's test this logic for a second. A promiscuous past means the likelihood of cheating goes way up and that’s a serious worry for a guy in a LTR with said woman Let's say there was a wizard who could look into the future, you go to him and he assures you that in your years together, she'd not cheat on you. Would you get with her despite her past?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:11 PM
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Why tho? What's so bad about promiscuous women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:07 PM
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But also you don’t think your job should give you any kind of fulfillment or happiness…..so what will? You have hobbies for that. Relying“ on your partner because you strive for a happy marriage? It’s a team effort. Like I said, recipe for heartbreaks and pure disaster
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 09:03 PM
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Even if this is true, why should we accept the purpose that someone else designed marriage for? It doesn’t mean that marriage should always be for that purpose someone else designed it for. It doesn’t mean marriage shouldn’t or couldn’t serve a better purpose. Trying to make it anymore than what it was supposed to be is clearly unsustainable. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 08:50 PM
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Relying on your partner to give you happiness is just a recipe for disaster. It's painful pointless and overrated
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 08:47 PM
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Way to miss the point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:57 PM
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Ppl who put this shit on marriage and jobs, often end up disappointed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:57 PM
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Well, duh. Are you making the argument that men in this same hypothetical situation with all things being equal wouldn't choose the rich/high income option over a poor/low income woman? That's exactly what I'm saying. just with extra cash? Most men would rather be the higher earner in a heterosexual relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:46 PM
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There's nothing Inherently misogynistic about not wanting a promiscuous woman
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:00 PM
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It's not as true in the same amount, but don't pretend that all women are hypergamous If that were true the infamous wage gap wouldn't exist. The uncontrolled gender pay gap will always exist, men will always make more than women, this is because earning potential is tied to men's reproductive success in a way that it is not tied to women. For better or for worse, women in general would prefer not to mate with guys with lower status and income than them if they don't have to. The same is not tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:07 AM
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The same is absolutely true of women It's more so that they couldn't get the rich man even if they wanted to. They marry the poor bums, who could atleast be loyal to one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:02 AM
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Being unable to handle the thought of ur gf with another guy in the past is insecurity. Not necessarily. It's just that her unwillingness to sleep around is what may make her special and different from all the hoes out here. And if he realizes the she's not any different, she looses that veneer of specialness. It's not necessarily out of a sense of inadequacy. More like realizing that she's just as human as all the women out there, hence she falls of off the pedestal
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:00 AM
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How so? I literally explained to you why it's not all about insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:11 AM
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Point is men are very ok with marrying a woman with no resources as long as she is attractive and has a good head on her shoulders. The same is not true for women let's not get blind
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:07 AM
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If a woman had two options, guy a and guy B, all else being equal except for income, I would 9 times out of 10, the woman would always pick the higher earner. The same is not true, if you present a man with the same identical options on of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:12 AM
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It's not more difficult for a woman to get a job and earn money than it is for a man. Thankfully. Which is why women on average are a lot more stingy with their cash, it's why they'd prefer for the man to always pay for the date if they don't have to. Similarly it's a lot harder for a man to get a gf, therefore men are a lot more possessive over their women and would prefer not to share them, whether it was in the past of the future. No. I feel better spending the money that I earned than the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:04 AM
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Last I checked, status and income are tied to female mate selection in a way that it's not to male mate selection
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:57 AM
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Did you read the entire post? How come others are getting the analogy and you don't 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:56 AM
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This is how you view the world. This is why its important to speak your mind about these things so you can ensure you are surrounded by like minded individuals. I think its interesting to interact with all sorts of people. Otherwise you might have people who don't think objectification is a normal thing getting offended. Make sure you surround yourself with people who think its ok to view others as resources. When do we treat someone like an object and when do we not? 🤔And why viewing someone as…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:52 AM
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Men have to do a lot of work inorder to be able to attract women and gain access to sex, whether that's going to the gym, getting their finances inorder, learning how to be charismatic, it takes so effort to be able to sleep with multiple women. It's why players are idolized
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:43 AM
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This may be true for you, but not true for a lot of women. Especially the ones who think the man is supposed to be the provider
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:40 AM
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If you believe that women in your life are a commodity that should be treated like currency, What's wrong with objectifying people?🤔 Don't we all do that? think you should make that clear to the people you interact with so that its easier to live your life in the way you believe you should. I prefer to think of it as my business, just like how a woman's past is none of my business, I believe my intentions are my business
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:38 AM
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The point of the analogy is this... Just like women would prefer not to spend their own hard-earned money which they earned if they don't have to, men also would prefer not to forego Women(the access to which they earned) if they don't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:35 AM
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What part don't you get?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:32 AM
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Scarcity begets value
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:26 PM
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Not necessarily. I think it has more to do with, "No guy wants to think that his special little lady was some other guy's slut for the night"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:25 PM
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One of the main reasons why alot men care about bodycount consciously or subconsciously, is because they have to pedestalizing a woman on some level inorder to love her, or at the very least live her how she wants to be loved. The truth is that when a man becomes emotionally bonded with a woman, he begins to do things that he wouldn't do with other women, women with whom he was only sleeping with. He begins to make commitments, sacrifices, maybe he moves her in, maybe he proposes, or gets marrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:23 PM
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Also when all the male conceived ideals of female virtue just come naturally to her, effortlessly, like you don't even have to tell her your boundaries, Insecurities etc, like she does all the right things even without knowing. Like she doesn't act it out, it's who she is at her core.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:22 AM
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You'll definitely feel it. Women who are the exception to the rule just have this aura about them that is just so hard to miss.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:19 AM
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Most ppl who get cheated on, are cheated on by ppl they presumed and trusted would never cheat on them. Eh, a healthy skepticism doesn't seem too bad in this case when the unfortunate alternative would be being roped into a terrible obligation that can be enforced by the legal system. Obviously you'd say that you shouldn't be in a relationship with someone you can't trust but say you trust someone, and they just change from who you thought they were overnight and not in ways you can perceive. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:30 PM
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Every woman you’ve ever wanted, or gone on a date with, or had sex with, or dated seriously, or married has had sexual thoughts about many other men who are not you, and she most likely had sex with some of those men and thoroughly enjoyed it. If you cannot handle this obvious fact of life, you have the emotional capacity of a child and have no business being in a romantic relationship with anyone. I agree it's a hard pill to swallow at first, and most men should really do it. Most men who accep…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:26 PM
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A man that shuns the slut Doesn't change the fact that he would only fuck her. For me the Madonna whore complex is simply how men categorize certain women as fuckzone category,and other ones gf material
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:00 PM
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A resentment of her ability to do the same things you have, or would have had you the opportunity. Until such a day comes that a man can easily acquire casual sex as a woman, that double standard is always gonna exist. It's the same reason why ppl don't like trust fund babies but praise self-made millionaires A lack of maturity that ordinarily brings with it an ability to be objective yourself, your circumstances and other people. Some things just come naturally. Otherwise how do you explain why…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:53 PM
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What does cheating have to do with body count... oh yeah it doesn't. People who can dissociate emotions from sex are more likely to cheat tho? Ppl with high body counts generally are able to dissociate emotions from sex, therefore high bodycount= increased likely hood of cheating. How's this debateble 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:50 PM
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Where dyou get that from🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:43 PM
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You are misrepresenting the Madonna-Whore Complex. The Madonna-Whore Complex is an attempt to explain why men can't have sex with Madonna like women and can only fuck the Whore. It deals with sexual function, not mate choice. I like to think my version is more of an accurate representation of it, that explains it on a large scale. why men can't have sex with Madonna like women and can only fuck the Whore. The categorization of women being "madonnas" and "whores" is accurate but the lack of sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:40 PM
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And yet somehow women (and many (most?) men) are very capable of routinely doing this. If you are unable to commit to someone and also see them as “just” a human being, you are the problem. "Inordinate commitment" was the operative word I used. So they commit and stick with the bare minimum since the person they partnered with is just ordinary. It's why some of this relationships fall on their feet, not long enough. That was a lot of words to just say that those men don’t respect women as full p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:13 PM
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Even if his feelings about the woman is just meh, it still doesn't make sense to view her future SO with contempt It's more about feeling like you one-upped him. Like say if your friend bought a bag for 500$ and you got a discount and bought it at say 50$ because something about you made them decide you deserve a discount. Not saying that women are objects, it's a metaphor to illustrate how the one night stand guy feels like he got a better deal out of the experience. Women secretly resent all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:08 PM
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I've never known sexually experienced men who think this way. Plenty of fuckboys are just closeted nice guys
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:50 PM
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It would bring back that ol'e era of romantism. Virgin women would start being more common place. The hoe-flation is a direct consequence of unrestricted male thirst
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:45 PM
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they do like enough to spend time together but not enough for a relationship? If a guy likes your company, and the sex is good, and nothing about you is gonna make him look like a clown Infront of his friends, best believe he'd want a relationship. If he doesn't, your company is just meh
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:41 PM
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in the first place? Or assume that every man thinks this way of their casual partners. I think alot of them do, it's why they like to make sure their gf doesn't have a reputation, coz they understand they'll be the laughing stock in other men's minds. You're both adults, you both have the same human urges, where does that disrespect come from? Something about that post nut clarity and maybe a little bit of the Madonna whore complex at play I guess. I have a running theory that the Madonna whore …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:34 PM
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This is not only true for male virgins tho🤔 I know a couple of fuckbois who very well don't intend to marry the women they casually sleep with, it's why some of them don't even care to go to the point of making sure their casual partners cum. A lot of fuckbois are actually just closeted nice guys, who are out for some false sense of justice
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:19 PM
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Now on the other hand, let's say that he meets another girl, who's only been with 1 guy in her entire life, but that one man, was the handsome popular guy in town, who went on to have a lucrative career, she slept with him on the 1st date, went on to have all kinds of hot passionate sex with him, didn't mind that he was a playboy, maybe she even did things with him that he only thought women in porn did, However when this new guys meets her, and started dating her, she made him wait two months b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:16 PM
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Eh some men also think back to the differences between the sexual details especially if the man in question was more than just an ex fling. This is also a good point. The emotional reaction is a response to an awareness to an unfavorable economic exchange. So let's say a man meets a woman with a relatively high body count like 15, but let's also say that she made each of them wait two months before she slept with them and each one of the made an exclusive commitment to her and they only ever had…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:14 PM
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I wonder if it's an inheritable genetic trait to have a reaction to body count? Cope? Envy/jealousy of experiences or feelings of inadequacy/performance anxiety? I think that men pedestalizing women is a problem. An often naturally occurring problem, but a problem. There's a fascinating anger out there in the world regarding women who "appear" chaste and turn out not to be, like the guy making the discovery was robbed of something. The truth is that her chastity is a fantasy of his own mind and …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:08 PM
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I literally gave you a more realistic and nuanced answer💀
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 08:52 PM
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For men who have struggled with dating and been told to self improve; Going to the gym, reading books, therapy, improving finances, career, "frame", improving social skills etc. Women secretly resent all the work they have to do to get paid and would prefer to just have money. Similarly alot of men secretly resent all the work they have to do get into a relationship and would prefer to just have women. And this is why high value men cheat. And the more difficult it is for people to get something…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:06 AM
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Ofcourse it does. How is this debateble?and this becomes clearer when we examine the most common male romantic belief. It's actually a really beautiful idea, just not based in reality. The most common romantic belief is "I can be loved for who I am." It's a romantic belief because it's based in fantasy. It's a beautiful fantasy. The idea that you can be loved just for who you are, or accepted as intrinsically enough, deep down that's what most men want. It would be so easy to get any man you wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:11 AM
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Confidence and assertiveness are good things. Honestly I don't find that compelling. "When men are in love they become more timid." One of the easiest ways to tell if a guy doesn't like you like that is if he's awfully confident around you. It's easier to be confident and charm a woman if you don't really like her like that(this is also why men don't find confidence in women attractive in the way women do💀), this also why assholes tend to be so charming. Guys get nervous around girls they like. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:32 PM
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What amazingly selfish and cruel things to say. You caring more about “complaints” of abuse than abuse itself is all I need to know about you. Take your own advice and stop complaining. Perhaps I'd be inclined to be more empathetic if it didn't seem like women actively choose these men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:11 PM
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Unless they were forced to marry them, they picked them 🤷, sometimes play first and loose with important choices will lead u to stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:07 PM
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What? You don't think it's frustrating to hear women complain all day about toxic men, whilst you watch them go after and even obsess about the very men they love complaining about over and over again? Whilst they remain "just friends" with men who seem good on paper(atleast as far as what women claim they want in men is concerned) because the "spark" just isn't there, you read female catered novels and see just how closely the toxic men irl mirror those male protagonists that women get wet for …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:44 PM
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Locking your doors isn't a direct, pointed accusation towards someone you presumably are supposed to love and trust enough to have kids with. Say your neighbor was your brother. And the other neighbor was your sister. Would locking your door be an accusation that you think they are thieves🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:20 PM
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Men can bring it up, women can choose to end the relationship. Can't control that. It's this unspoken threat that women are relying on to keep men in check. The funny thing is, imagine a hypothetical world where women could get pregnant every time their husband had extramarital affairs, and the wife could be tricked into suffering through a pregnancy and gestating a fetus that is not hers, and the woman could only hope her husband isn't lying to her. I can bet with a 100% gurantee, the women in …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:18 PM
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We have routine security checks at airports, how come no one gets morally outraged that the government must think all of us are terrorists🤔. Does locking your door imply you are accusing your neighbor of being a thief?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:10 PM
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It's simple really, they want to have the option of cheating without having to get caught. Think about it for a second, if abortion was banned and severely inaccessible and there were mandatory paternity tests, a woman(esp a married one) would have to really second guess herself about going forward with cheating. This is why you hear them clapback with wanting to be notified of any child fathered by the husband out of wedlock. Women know deep down that mandatory paternity tests would act as a bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:05 PM
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Quite ironic coming from you. Perhaps maybe you should take your own advice
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:49 PM
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Toxic men don't cause problems for me, they cause more harm to women, it's the women's complains that are annoying. I can promise you, if women dated assholes and accepted what came with the territory of dating one without much complain, no one would care. It's only annoying when they date them then go around complaining and expecting society to coddle them. Like date those assholes in peace and shut it, we don't want to hear it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:35 AM
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Women really shoot themselves in the foot with this kind of logic. If women valued niceness and kindness the way they value confidence and assertiveness, I can promise you the world would be a much better and safer place for y'all. It's like y'all create the very men you love to complain about without knowing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:30 AM
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One of the reasons people stay with abusive people is because those people aren't always abusive. That's all good and all if we didn't have to hear complains from women about how men are toxic and my abusive ex yadda yadda, women should date and fuck whoever they want when they want, so long as they shut up about about abuse,the oppressive patriarchy, toxic masculinity and deadbeats.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:25 AM
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Ideally it wouldn't. But you'd be surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:13 PM
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Let's see, he's putting in more effort than the other guy had to. If you have to put in more effort, she maybe not that into you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:02 AM
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I have a very specific type of personality I go for. And if they are not at all similar, how do you determine you’re the worst one? I don't get the question, perhaps you could rephrase
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:54 PM
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Could be any other guy other than the husband. Especially if they are not at all similar 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:50 PM
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The number one reason your wife is always mad in the house, is because you weren't her 1st choice. Men who have exactly what women want and are attracted to are also the least likely ones to give it to them, that's why alot of women end up with relationships/marriages they want, but with men they would not prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:26 PM
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it seems like most of your reasoning revolves around men being besotted, infatuated, inexperienced, and foolish. needing to be delusional as a rule to exclusively date someone long term. that's for high schoolers tbh. Ask any man what dating advice they would give their sisters and it will finally start making sense to you. Heck even just watch all the male directed romance movies/fantasies and the image will become clearer, most of them are just self-inserts. Life does imitate art afterall
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:25 PM
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direct control over that soon. That's not relevant within a relationship though. If you are partnered with a woman and want to have a child together, men can easily ensure they're not taken advantage of anymore. So that need to suppress female sexuality is entirely vestigial. Two things can be true at the same time. By suppression I meant having her mate chosen for her. They couldn't have a woman running off with a badboy only to end up pregnant and left alone. In most of the global south, a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:19 PM
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The number one reason your wife is always mad in the house, is because you weren't her 1st choice. Men who have exactly what women want and are attracted to are also the least likely ones to give it to them, that's why alot of women end up with relationships/marriages they want, but with men they would not prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:11 PM
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If you ever find yourself thinking, "ohh, yeah, maybe I could do that." That thought is not your thought. It didn't come from you, that thought is not a representative of your authentic desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:08 PM
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Being a bit sensational with your strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:04 PM
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Do you hate sex? No I don't, I love sex. Describing the existence of something does not translate to supporting the fact that it exists. Why wouldn't you want a devoted woman who fucks like a slut Lots of reasons for this. There's a reason why nearly all cultures on earth have tried and still continue to suppress the expression of female sexuality in one form or another. A man falls in love with a woman's "essence," who she is as a person, regardless of whether she's the hottest and most voracio…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:00 PM
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It's the revelation that his girl is not so special afterall.That That specialness may only have exist in his own mind.To other men she may just be a willing warm body. Men really get themselves into a pickle when they try to resolve their dissonance by believing that their women are different, that they would never do these things that other women would do. And expecting that their particular sweetheart, or wife, or fiance was going to be the exception is probably not grounded in reality. And t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:45 PM
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It's not really insecurity per se, more so that they know if they saw their girl like any other ordinary person, they wouldn't be able to love them the way that she might want to be loved. It's that veneer of specialness that makes it possible for him to love her, and if she's no different than the hoes he's slept with in the past, he'll just treat her like he treated them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:15 PM
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Read the rest of my comments, you'll understand
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:11 PM
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Basically it boils down to one very simple principle: No guy wants to imagine that his special little lady was some other guy's slut for the night or worse a willing warm body or cumrag to be used and discarded with. This is why so many men are blindsided when their girl actually cheats, most of them convince themselves, "My girl wouldn't do that, she's different." This why it's easier for a woman to get away with cheating, it's not that they are more clever, it's that men tend to see women they…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:08 PM
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So why does the jealousy flare up in regard to her past? The answer is that when a man becomes emotionally bonded with a woman, he begins to do things that he wouldn't do with other women, women with whom he was only sleeping with. He begins to make commitments, sacrifices, maybe he moves her in, maybe he proposes, or gets married, time, energy, money and opportunity are all sacrificed under the altar of that relationship. And this is not something he ordinarily does, this is not usual behavior.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:56 PM
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First of all, men don't feel this way about all women's sexual history. Think about it, if he were to just hook up with a woman, or a fling or a fwb situation, I doubt that he would be bothered by her sexual past, if anything her sexual past is an asset to him because it allowed the ease of access to a sexual relationship with her. If she had never had a casual sexual relationship with her it would have been more difficult for to engage her in one for the first time. So on some level her sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:54 PM
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It's something that I've seen come up in quite some relationships, and it's quite troubling for some guys, it really eats them up inside. They learn a few details of their woman's sexual history then they extrapolate mental details based of those details. And these fantasies more or less come to torture these Individuals and if they are not careful they can act out of that pain and punish their women for what they did, even before they met them💀. Obviously not a constructive behavior in a relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:53 PM
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Hard disagree and I'mma tell you why
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:51 PM
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Q4 the ladies, why does it never compute to you why a man would have issues with your sexual history, without it necessarily being tied to ,"insecurities"?🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:35 PM
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Nah I think when men say choose better they are basically saying to pick a man who will make a good husband and father, the one who'll be there for you through thick and thin and it gets to the heart of the matter of the Nice guy discourse, as an example, I'll highlight a few confessions from women... These are all threads from r/Askwomen, r/Askwomenover30, r/askgirls, r/askwomenuncensored, r/confessions and TikTok and YouTube comments. ~"Yes. He was amazing. The type of guy you would introduce …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:58 PM
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