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Only in your feminist dreams is that a good thing. To the rest of the rational, sane world, it's an indication of a disease where whores are widespread.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 01:52 AM
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the sea of betas will revolt and string up all Chads and redistribute the women more fairly since they will outnumber the alphas 5x This would've happened by now. Instead we've seen that many incelibate men resort to male feminism and marry used up women or simp for them to cope, since they're too weak to revolt.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 01:50 AM
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Those average guys are marrying Chad's used up cum buckets. So yeah, it is happening. Multiple women are sharing one man at any given time even though they may not always be cognizant of it. No one said that the rest are neckbeards. They're just not attractive enough to be considered Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 01:49 AM
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That's exactly how it works. Non-chad men don't get to reproduce. The next generation has more Chad DNA in it. The less Chadly of that generation doesn't get to reproduce and so on and so forth. You'll eventually reach a point where there won't be too many men jacking off and playing minecraft when their forefathers were spending their entire lives working out to get pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 08:03 PM
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like how does that benefit her at all. The better question is, how does her not being a virgin benefit the man at all? Statistically and through common sense, it doesn't. It significantly hurts the relationship because she'll miss Chads' cocks. could you ask men to not fuck multiple people before their marriages too or would you only exclusively ask women? Ideally neither partner should have sex before marriage. However, I do firmly believe that men with multiple sex partners are nowhere near as…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 08:01 PM
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Yeah I'm sure unicorns exist everywhere but my experiences have definitely said otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 07:59 PM
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Countless are already suffering. And it would only take a few generations realistically if this were done systematically.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 07:55 PM
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I mean, that's already what's happening. The 80/20 split means that one Chad is sleeping with multiple women at any given time. The only difference is that the women may not be 100% aware that this is happening, aren't getting pregnant, and aren't living together.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 04:18 PM
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Definitely, but over time the Chad genes would prevail. That's how natural selection works. Granted, this is all horribly eugenic, but this is the world that women are gearing towards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 04:14 PM
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preferring virgin over all It speaks volumes about western society that yours is the only post that mentions this, as though it's too much to ask for a woman to not fuck multiple men before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 04:13 PM
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Keep looking. He'll be looking forever. Male feminists are largely overweight, obese, or scrawny and develop this sad mentality as a form of learned helplessness/stockholm syndrome. I'd say it's pathetic and deserves pity, but most of them are just reprehensible insects.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 04:12 PM
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In fact, I have never met an attractive male feminist, ever. This. It's no surprise that most of them are ugly as shit, which is why they develop this learned helplessness mentality of embracing feminism. The few that are attractive might include movie stars or select few politicians, but you know that most of them are doing it as a PC facade and don't really believe in most of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 04:11 PM
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The woman should be physically attractive, be a virgin, value the tenets of domesticity (cooking, cleaning, looking after kids) over a career-oriented life, be religious (not to an extreme) and not nag/bitch all the time over trivial stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 04:08 PM
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Almost all women will have a visceral reaction of insult, grievous offense, and devastating emotional injury at any suggestion that her man doesn't trust her This is why my golden rule for any man who's seeking a partner is to RUN if a woman shows an inkling of anger towards the idea of a prenup. Any woman who knows how western courts work knows that they favor women heavily in settlements, so a prenup is practically a necessity these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 04:07 PM
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It's pretty unlikely a pair of teachers making $50k/yr are suddenly going to become multimillionaires. It wildly depends on the individual in question. Many people work jobs like being a teacher as a temporary income source while they get a degree in higher education (MD, PhD, engineer, etc.). If your goal is to just stay a teacher the rest of your life then... yeah it's still worth it to get a prenup because of how western courts strongly favor women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 04:06 PM
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If it becomes socially permissible for Chad to get harems of women pregnant (as opposed to just hooking up with them), then I think humanity will be fine. Pretty much all non-Chad men would die out this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 04:03 PM
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That's only true if you want to have kids with a woman. What's much more largely applicable to men is the want to have sex with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 11:51 AM
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No, because men =/= women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 11:50 AM
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Marry or live with a woman who makes the same or more than he does. That's a stupid criterion to go by, not to mention it's hypocritical even within your own feminist notions where two partners should seek each other for their personality, not their paychecks. Fact is, alimony is paid out in most cases to women, not to men. You cannot ignore this fact. Your reasons for divorce are petty if it's simply a matter of "I don't want to be with you [to hop on Chad's cock again]." That should not be rew…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 03:33 PM
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Because only women should be the ones in love or attached. Your words, not mine. Aren’t men only as faithful as their options anyway so what does it really matter? Inaccurate, baseless statement. And also why is pair-boding only limited to certain amount of partners? We don't know precisely how it works, but based on the fact that men are evolutionarily designed to sleep with multiple women, the fact that larger n-counts correlate to higher divorce rates, and that women lie about their n-counts,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 03:19 PM
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Doesn't have to be for someone like me- in fact, it should be for people like beta males. They get a stable partner who provides for them and their kids. Good for society as a whole when the mother of children and wife to a hardworking husband isn't a whore who spread her legs for multiple men before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 03:04 PM
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Men and women don't pair bond in the same way. We know this for a fact based on their hormonal responses post-sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 03:03 PM
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That sounds more like a projection type issue from you than anyone else. I can't discuss these concepts in my person or professional life for obvious reasons, so I discuss them here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 02:48 PM
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No there aren't. This is a unicorn you're describing. Whereas most women worship that one Chad when in presence with the beta they settled with, men are usually satisfied with the woman they have until she gets fat/ugly/old, at which point they're happy to get other women if it's socially permissible. They don't remember stacy because men know there are plenty of other pussies in the sea.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 09:45 AM
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But as I established already, they don't have all of those characteristics, because you mixed in "good lover" in there. To be a good lover means one has to be Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 09:33 AM
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Our bodies are not amusement parks. There are long-term consequences in terms of pair bonding towards being promiscuous. Sorry your simplistic idea of "pleasure= unconditional good" doesn't work out that way in life. If it were that simple, we'd idolize drug addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 09:28 AM
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Getting someone wet doesn't automatically make a good lover. Just like getting wet doesn't have to mean you're horny. It's like 90% of being a good lover. If you're not attractive enough then there's nothing to enjoy with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 09:27 AM
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Close enough
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 09:26 AM
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because the protection that marriage once provided for women is not as necessary It's not necessary at all anymore. "Palimony" is given to any sort of live-in situation (to women, no surprise there), and child support exists regardless of marriage. Just goes to show how much the state favors women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 09:11 AM
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So if men’s lies are an upper bound on n count What is this supposed to mean? Are you saying that the numbers that men give are the upper bounds for women's n counts? Because if so, that's a really bad and inaccurate assumption on your part. If you seriously think a woman who’s slept with 1 boyfriend who she was deeply in love with is a slut...your gonna have a difficult life. Fun fact, n=1 has a higher divorce rate than n=2. And if it was a premarital relationship, then it doesn't matter, that …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 09:05 AM
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That’s why I plan on getting a vasectomy and calling it a day. Call me old-fashioned, but I can't reconcile why any man would emasculate himself like that when condoms are almost as effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 09:00 AM
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Men are definitely pressured to have a family, but it's not as extreme as the pressure that women face, mostly because men don't have a biological clock like women do. However, there is more and more research showing that there is a biological clock for fathers as well in terms of how often we find birth defects in children of older fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 08:45 AM
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Exactly, if he's an asshole, then he's prime dating material. Hahaha summed up well. But the asshole has to be Chad, above all else. If you're a male feminist type physically, then you're not going to get laid even if you're an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 08:44 AM
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Anything < virgin in terms of premarital sex partners is a slut. Also women lie about their n-count. That has been proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 08:31 AM
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It's not the women so much as it is the time period, location, male feminists, and awful norms. Women have always been opportunistic, hence hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 08:19 AM
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Honestly, the vast majority of debate I see is just toxic. There's no betterment here. It's "toxic" to you because it goes against the hegemony (feminism) which you're probably in favor of. For the rest of us, it's a good place to discuss this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 08:06 AM
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why people say incels are crazy or unrealistic Because bluepillers, feminists, and the hoi polloi at large are used to gaslighting and shaming tactics when confronted with hard truths that go against their reality. This is why it's important for any "manosphere" groups to fight for themselves and gain a platform in the feminized west.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 08:04 AM
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True, but the thing about billionaires is that they're often sociopaths who portray themselves as humble while having a harem of escorts that they can afford. If you think that people like elon musk, jeff bezos, or even bill gates are settling for granny sex when they can have like 5 different 18 year olds in their bed every night for the rest of their lives, you're naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 08:02 AM
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society, clean, independent, responsible, generous, good lover, has a job + ambition, that simple af stuff I love how you stuck this in with the others. Like the rest aren't good enough unless he's Chad. The funny part is there are plenty of betas who fit the rest of those attributes, but as usual women only want Chad to have those.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 07:59 AM
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It got so bad, I had to delete the post. People like you are part of the problem tbh. Have the balls to stand by your opinion. Most women and male feminists try to gaslight and use shaming tactics in order to suppress the dissemination of patriarchal norms. You're falling right into their lap when you do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 07:56 AM
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Most men these days do settle in that they have no other options for pussy and settle for a post-wall slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 07:55 AM
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Getting pussy is the ultimate corporeal sign of love you can get from a woman. Everything else is second place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 07:54 AM
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Yeah because it's really, you know, that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 07:45 AM
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If it's easy pickings on the market, and these women have no self control , why shouldn't I? It's ultimately on beta men to have higher standards, or for them to punish Chads who are fornicating with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 07:40 AM
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It's an impossibility given the nature of sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 03:00 AM
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Who/what are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 02:44 AM
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Exactly. This whole concept of "she only has like n=3 what's the big deal?" Is a stupid modern, western concept. Most of the world historically had the rule of no hymen no diamond, with very few exceptions. Reason being, men figured out a long time ago that whores are bad for families, and bad for society as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 09:37 PM
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This shouldn't come as a surprise to most people except blue pillers, who have a habit of gaslighting and discounting logical counterpoints. Another common fallacy with a lot of these studies (or lack of them) is that liberal academia doesn't permit many studies to make it through their filter- studies that would undermine concepts like feminism or that men and women are inherently different when it comes to sexual norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 09:32 PM
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https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_clr.asp#:~:text=About%2076%20percent%20of%20public,school%20level%20(36%20percent). This states it's about 76-24 with the split between female/male teachers, respectively, by percentage, in public schools. That's extremely significant. Three female teachers for one male teacher means that boys aren't getting taught the "hidden curriculum" of what male behavior should be look like. There's also no guarantee that male teachers will pass these key behavior…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 05:38 AM
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You’re trying way too hard to make this men vs women and trying way too hard to prove you beliefs right. You can't respond to the merits of the argument and instead jump to ad hominem, like most women do. Congrats on living up to the stereotype. Btw, in all marraige statistics, men cheat more than women. Source
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 05:23 PM
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Even if it's a first offense, you can say bye to your career if you were gunning for any noteworthy profession. The point being- there's a difference here between men thugging it and getting pussy vs. go-getters who don't get in trouble with the law. That is not to say it's a simple split- there are Chads with careers, but violent/dominant behavior is seen as attractive by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 02:41 PM
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Yes, I read that already. Where does it support your claim that men's infidelity is the reason that divorces occur? Where is the proof that infidelity actually did occur? These statistics provide none of that information. These are just cited reasons that don't vet the information. I could say that the reason I'm divorcing is because an alien is mind controlling my wife. It doesn't make it true, but it will still count statistically as a % according to these studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 02:37 PM
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Actions>>> words. Go into threads like these with that mantra in mind. Most women will virtue signal one thing, but a list of her sex partners will show another thing entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 12:11 PM
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Most Pakistani guys I've known tend to be based about this stuff. Good on you for not settling for these types of nasty women. From what I know, your culture seems to create genuine RPed women, which is why, go figure, western culture tries to demonize them as "oppressed."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 12:00 PM
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By your logic, then, OP, men are right to want to invade each other's homes to rape other men's wives, sisters, mothers, and daughters since that's our biological imperative. After all, it's not evolutionarily about how attractive we are, it's about making might right.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 11:57 AM
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Lol I can tell you're a bullshitter now. Nothing in that source supports what you said, which means you didn't bother even reading your own source. You already said you dont trust statistics No, bullshitter, I said that I don't trust self reported stats unless they're vetted. Because a woman crying abuse or infidelity as reasons might just be her way of saying "he called me fat or he was spending too much time talking to a female coworker over the phone."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 11:53 AM
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Mens' infidelity isn't even close to the top reasons why women divorce men. If no one's word can be trusted, why should I trust your words? Self-reporting needs to be verified before we use it as an accurate measure of a thought process or behavior. And you shouldn't trust my words or anyone else's here. Everyone should independently verify statements through their own experiences, and through thorough vetting of data. I'm merely pointing out that these self-reports aren't necessarily accurate i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 08:42 PM
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Why doesn't it make sense? Do you think people are overt about their true intentions, even when they may face so much cognitive dissonance that they don't even admit it to themselves? Unless you're doing serious investigative work with video evidence, email evidence, etc. you'll never know for sure. Thanks for re-stating my initial point. Self reporting means nothing- it's literally the tip of the iceberg, and without due diligence to back up those claims (which would be incredibly difficult if …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 04:04 PM
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There's no such thing as objectivity when you ask people "Why they divorce". Of course there is. Objectively a woman might divorce to look for new young Chad dick. But subjectively she'll cite reasons like abuse, dissatisfaction, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 02:47 PM
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IDK who "you guys" is. I specifically said "most," and that's what's important here- general patterns or trends. You're still gaslighting- a common male feminist tactic, but I know better by now than to trust what you're saying. If a woman gets used for money by every guy she dates, is that indicative of all or the majority men being gold diggers, a societal issue, or her selection skills? It could be either, since we're talking about one individual and we have no other information here. If many…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 08:40 AM
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every single one behaves the same way No one said that, not to mention there can be a spectrum of how badly rejection is handled. And even if that were the case, it could hark to disturbing societal norms about women as opposed to the type of woman a guy chases.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 08:27 AM
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I never put too much credence into self-reports on subjects like these, because people always give biased accounts. I can't count the number of women who've cried "abuse" in a marriage when that really meant "he told me to lose weight, he asked me to stop nagging him all the time, he asked me to cook instead of ordering out all the time, etc."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 08:25 AM
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That's the kind of healthy approach to debate that leads to a more stable society. Instead of crying "incel" or "misogynist," people here are willing to cede that there are truths and faults to both sides which mainstream representations don't get right. If only US politics followed suit- then the rich who are running things would really be sweating when people start targeting them instead of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 08:22 AM
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You keep gaslighting people as though every guy who notices this behavior in western women must be chasing crazy tail. Or, maybe, just maybe, get this- they have a sense of entitlement that leads to adverse reactions to rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 08:20 AM
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That’s because you like dating those type of women. Nah, I've been through enough women to know that most of them don't handle rejection well, be it pre or post sex. That's when you see their vicious/nasty side. You just seldom see it these days because your average woman in the west is an entitled skank who gets nonstop attention from men- both losers and Chads. The moment you say "no," they have a meltdown.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 08:13 AM
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Ethnicities do tend to generally couple with their own, but that doesn't mean that they look like siblings. Do you think that ever white person looks like the sibling of the next white person? Same for asians, blacks, etc.? The way you phrased it is a bit ridiculous lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 04:41 PM
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Men have low standards in general, so fat girl pussy > no pussy at all. What you're hearing is just the sexual desperation that's perpetuated by OLD where Chads are hogging 80% women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 08:20 AM
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I've met two women with boyfriends on tinder- not a surprise that when I brought up the fact that they're literal cuckolds, they tried to justify it somehow or call it something else. Also not a surprise that both of the guys were unattractive male feminist types.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 08:02 AM
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Convenience is a big reason for both sides. Aside from that, men don't like getting publicly shot down for approaching a woman. With tinder there's no room for doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 08:01 AM
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Nah, this is one of those things about male sexuality that won't change with time, or even with fads, just as women prefer guys with good upper body cues: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513809001093?via%3Dihub
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 07:59 AM
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Sounds like he had better options than you and you got pumped/dumped. Not a surprise when you lack self control, and it doesn't mean that, as a woman, you can easily find a man if you wanted to, regardless of your body type.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 07:58 AM
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Bingo. This is why women giving advice to men about how to date should often be disregarded. They often hamster the reasons why Chad gets them wet while Billy the beta doesn't, even though the latter fits their list of ridiculously unmasculine traits that they purport to like.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 07:57 AM
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This is a dumb western notion of marriage/LTRs. The ideal length is lifelong. If that idea turns you off, then I think that you lack self control and are oblivious to the entire point of the institution of marriage. It serves as a societal foundation from which families can grow. It becomes more than a bond between two individuals and instead becomes a base from which healthy interactions occur with one's kids and with society as a whole. When you fuck with marriage like the west does, it promot…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 07:54 AM
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I've never had borscht, but the fact that they use beets always turned me off from the idea. It's funny how all these cold climates drink hot broth. It's good for any man who does physical work, or in modern cases- after working out. Replenish all those electrolytes and get some good vitamins in.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 07:52 AM
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So the thing I do with veggies is that I initially have a set that I simmer the broth in, which I end up tossing once I've extracted their flavor, and then I have another set that's for actually eating in the broth. For simmering, it depends on whatever I can find in the supermarket or in my fridge- for example for winter veggies you can simmer stuff like turnips, winter squash, leeks ,etc. For eating purposes I usually do broccoli, carrots, water chestnuts, baby corn, and sometimes thin slices …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 07:50 AM
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I find it hard to believe that a skinny woman would have trouble finding a man these days. Unless your ass and tits are really flat, and even then, you would be able to find dudes willing to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 07:46 AM
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Neither of those look good on a man. Women for the most part prefer men who have some muscle mass and look lean.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 05:56 AM
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I'm not the person you're replying to, but for me nothing beats a bowl of bone broth with crunchy veggies along with some sort of protein and (if you're in the mood and can fit in the carbs/calories) noodles.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 05:56 AM
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I lost weight in my teens (I basically did a complete 180 in terms of eating and exercise habits from the dogshit ones instilled by my parents). It was a night and day difference. Aside from the obvious parts like women wanting to fuck you and giving you attention, you begin to see how superficial our world is. People in general treat you much better in all aspects of your life. You get free shit, people hold doors open for you, people are more social with you, your job benefits from it, etc. Od…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 05:54 AM
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Yeah, and if people followed the advice of women like Hepburn, society would be stuck in the stone ages as Chads got to plow women and the rest of the men were stuck being incels. Oh wait, that's pretty much modern western society.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 10:15 AM
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Do i want to fuck someone who isnt kind and respectful? Also no, And yet, the multitudes of women who sleep with convicts and horrible man says that your opinion isn't representative at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 10:15 PM
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Because they don't get labeled that at all. They definitely do, and I say that from personal experience. I've had several skanks message me after I ditched them post-ONS with the usual asshole spiel.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 02:45 AM
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There is no magical solution other than restoring the "rightful" order where men are respected, promiscuous women are ostracized and treated in the shitty manner they deserve, and instilling a sense of patriarchy in the basic family unit. Until that happens, we'll just keep seeing the same thing over and over- a large portion of men becoming incels or pussy-crumb-seeking male feminists who get divorce raped while she-whores keep ruining more and more families.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 07:49 PM
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From what I've read, he's over 6 feet tall. And intelligence means jackshit. It's his wealth that makes him what he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 07:47 PM
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See, now you're just being dishonest. The comment I responded to was specifically a criticism about him lacking knowledge about a woman's anatomy. Now you're shifting goalposts and saying that you disagree with his assertion about a woman's biological clock. Mind you, he's not wrong- it's pretty true in my experience, and I always lol at the "childfree" women who suddenly want to have kids after divorcing their beta cuck husbands once they hit their 30's.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 07:46 PM
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Ive only met two American women in my entire life who were like this, and I’m literally an American woman who grew up in America. This means nothing. I've had enough experience with US women to know that there are a ton who are like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 06:09 PM
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Getting married and having kids isn't hard, especially when you have low standards as a man. Bet you those women slept with Chads before they met him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 06:06 PM
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What changed about him? He's a little less fat and did something to his hair, but he is still relatively ugly. The only thing he has going for him is his height. So physically, he doesn't hold a candle to Chads. All he really has to offer is his money and name.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 06:05 PM
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You're statistically an aberration, and having sex with fat or ugly women isn't an achievement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 01:21 AM
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Only the men having non-committal sex are the ones who benefit, i.e. Chad. The rest of the male population gets fucked over though. Equal opportunity is never gonna lead to equal outcome Idk what this platitude is supposed to mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 09:01 PM
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could become that Chad Not really. There are ugly men who have features that are so bad that they'll never be Chad. And if you're not Chad, you're struggling for breadcrumbs, so what does it matter anyways?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 08:59 PM
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Were you happy because you had something, or could you have been happier if you had more? If suddenly you had the chance to have a harem of women at your disposal, would you take it? Most men would answer yes to this question in a heartbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 08:58 PM
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Sure, but this doesn't mean that there isn't an "elite" class who are collectively getting laid far more than others are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 08:57 PM
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Why would you choose some neanderthal and fuck up your kid's life? So then why do blue pill hypocrites pretend like these "neanderthals" don't have fucked up lives as a result of being attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:24 PM
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How many men did your wife sleep with before you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:23 PM
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You do realize that it's just hyperbole, right? He clearly is referring to that general area of the body, and not to the stomach.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:22 PM
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The man a woman marries at 35 has far less options than the guy she would have married at 25. Hilariously untrue. Men don't age like milk, as a general rule, plus the 30's are usually the time when men are financially stable. It's the other way around- women in their 30s have fewer options than they did in their 20s, because men on some level are repulsed by the fact that a woman has probably slept around since, and is no longer as good looking/fertile as she once was.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:20 PM
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That's not being neurotic. That's called being smart and having standards. Neuroticism implies irrationality, which is not the case here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:18 PM
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Marriage rates plummeting is rather a consequence of not needing to marry anymore. Women don't need to be married to open a bank account, to cohabitate with partners etc. This is only part of the picture, though. The other part is that women simply enjoy having sexual freedom without paying the consequences for it. This is largely because men in the west are weak and have no standards for women, so they tolerate promiscuity and non-virgin women. After all, why settle for the 5'7 banker in her ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:15 PM
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Are you really surprised that marriages at 22 don't have a likelihood of lasting? Actually, yes, when you consider historical trends. It points to cultural problems more than something associated with "youth," which is the picture you're trying to paint. There's nothing radically different about a marriage in your 20's versus your 30's in terms of personality; the only argument to make here is finances, but plenty of healthy relationships in the past have persevered through bad economic times.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:13 PM
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In other words, men and women with daddy issues are easily recruited into cults.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:10 PM
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Bluepillers don't like it when you post statistics, instead they use gaslighting and shaming tactics as the person you're responding to do. Keep fighting the good fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:09 PM
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It doesn't matter how much you improve when there's a taller, better looking Chad who is getting most of the pussy. What you're saying is just bluepill gaslighting. People should improve for themselves, but the issue of where most of the pussy is going is another one entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:09 PM
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I don't like sluts for LTRs but I actively seek them out via OLD apps for easy sex. I find them to be horrible people for the most part, and I don't like that there are so many of them, yet I am contributing to the problem for sure. But the way I see it, if I'm not fucking them, some other Chad is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:38 PM
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I have family out there so I was surprised to see people look down on it. Maybe certain parts are like that, but the cities I visited were nice. The only thing that kind of sucks is how far everything is distance-wise. The caveat is that it usually takes the same amount of time as commuting a smaller distance in a metropolitan area like Cali or NY because of traffic and population density.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 05:51 AM
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How so? It's literally ideal if you're looking for a worthwhile long term relationship from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 05:50 AM
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Not necessarily. If your woman is a virgin from a conservative background, it's probably the most ideal arrangement. But if you're marrying a used up skank, then yeah, it's a nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 05:36 AM
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This belongs on a shirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 05:35 AM
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I wouldn't want to live in either. Sure, you have a lot of space, but you're basically living in an ethnically homogenous (primarily white) area with a low-ish population, and there's not much to do out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 05:35 AM
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Texas shouldn't belong on that list. It's actually a very good place to live, and now a lot of big companies are trying to trickle in there because of how expensive it is to operate a business and for employees to live in more metropolitan areas like Cali or NY.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 05:33 AM
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It's a good source of pleasure if nothing else, so I wouldn't. There are few things in life as physically satisfying as a woman who likes you wrapping her legs around you and holding onto your shoulders as you rail her brains out- something that other men don't have access to. Also, without attraction having kids would be a lot more perfunctory, which is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 02:05 AM
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Here is one of the studies. Did you actually read the study? Because it asserts literally the opposite of what you're implying. A BMI ≥ 30 had a high specificity (95% in men and 99% in women), but a poor sensitivity (36% and 49 %, respectively) to detect BF %-defined obesity. The diagnostic performance of BMI diminished as age increased. BMI had a good correlation with BF % in men (R2 = 0.44) and women (R2 = 0.71), but also with lean mass (R2 = 0.50 and 0.55, respectively). Despite the good corr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 03:57 PM
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No one encouraged violence. You seem to have a habit of creating serial strawmen because you can't deal with arguments that go against your way of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 03:54 PM
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“If we cant get laid society is going to collapse because women are gonna get raped” this shit only exists in your heads No one said that. Y’all need to understand that the world is not going to change to accommodate y’all, especially when so many red pilled men have nothing to offer women or the world And yet, western society is gradually unfurling as a result of these shitty gynocentric attitudes. All it'll take is a war for shit to really go downhill.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 03:54 PM
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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/body-measurements.htm This indicates that 50% men are below 5'9, and 50% men are above 5'9
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:58 PM
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no one is "Entitled" to anything else from other private individuals except by contract, least of all sympathetic feelings. where is the "Right to sympathy" enshrined? And at what point do we draw the line between "rights of our various citizenships" and those actions that inevitably impact the quality of life of citizens? you have a legal right to PURSUE justice via government process,not a right to obtain it. trials fail sometimes Semantics; the point is that we are entitled to these things on…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:55 PM
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The data shows that women prefer a BMI of 27, period. If you/men want to argue that 27 here means a shredded bodybuilder, please provide the evidence for that. No, I don't need to provide evidence for it because you made the claim that "his shows why plenty of women state that they genuinely prefer dad-bods." The burden of proof is on you, and due to the fact that this statement makes no sense with the evidence provided, it's you that has to provide evidence that this BMI indicates people with h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:52 PM
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how is anyone "entitled" to justice or sympathy? Because these are basic tenets that most societies try to uphold, even if it's imperfect. You're showing a callousness that doesn't exist in society at large, therefore your opinion is moot. We are entitled to basic rights in most parts of the world, so this idea you're trying to push that "entitlement is inappropriate" is reductive and irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:36 PM
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Sure but it can also indicate average / chubby men too. You have zero proof that this is the case. You've cited a vague statistic that can't be interpreted specifically to support the assertion you're making. There's no proof from what you stated that there are women who prefer dad-bods based on higher BMI alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:34 PM
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and why wouldn't they? Because it's for the bad of society when we all put our individual interests before those of the greater good. All we've done is created a society of sexual haves and have-nots. This inexorably leads to societal instability whenever you have a large portion of young men who do not have sex. We've seen this phenomenon time and time again, from war-torn societies to those where rich landowners were marrying multiple women, to rebelling societies whose women were being carrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:31 PM
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By your logic then, women who are raped and murdered are "entitled" to no sympathy or justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:29 PM
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If that's the case 75% of men fit the criteria, Lol no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:24 PM
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But you can become attractive to them in more ways than one. No you can't. If this were possible, fat ugly men would be drowning in pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:19 PM
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Communicating with a whore is like communicating with a stubborn, spoiled child that wants a toy. Until they have it, they'll throw tantrums or act out. If you live in a feminist system, as a man, you have no recourse which is why you never ltr a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 04:44 AM
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I've always wondered how exactly a PI would be useful in this situation. Like what sort of information could they dig up that would lend to her sexual past? Unless they have contacts at these social media companies, if she deleted this stuff it might be difficult to obtain that sort of stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 04:39 AM
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maybe her other partners took her need into consideration and that’s what she misses Such as a big cock, a man who can hold her up because he has wide shoulders and a toned body? Because those are usually the "needs" that you're referring to, for which women will divorce a guy once she's bored with him. The irony here is that it's usually women who treat men like sex robots once they're bored with marriage. They're willing to destroy homes just to get off, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 04:35 AM
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It’s bad because it’s more accessible? This is faulty logic. I never made that claim. Either learn to read or stop making straw men arguments. It's bad because it promotes degeneracy, and promiscuous women make for bad long term partners, with significantly higher divorce rates than less promiscuous women in general. My n-count is 135 currently. I'm in my late 20's. I know that I'll pair bond better than a promiscuous woman can, when the time comes for me to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:12 PM
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Women want men. Not boys. Blah blah blah; plenty of Chads in their 20s are fucking multiple women which disproves this nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:09 PM
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What if they don't want that? Most do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:07 PM
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Like you put zero effort into something and cry when you don't succeed. While I do think that a lot of incels need to learn to try a bit more and have a defeatist attitude, I can understand why they feel that way. They're oppressed by a gynocentric system that overvalues looks, and they're often left feeling isolated and depressed. If you're born less than 6', without good jaw bones, without a good hairline- you're basically considered "less" from the getgo as a man. You can make up for this to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:06 PM
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The literature actually suggest low n count people, regardless of gender, couple with eachother I've only read one article that suggests this, and (a) it's old (b) the sample size was remarkably small, I think less than 100 (c) the sample was mainly taken near a university (d) men and women both lie about their partner counts, and this study relied on self-reporting. So suffice to say, there's no proof of this claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:03 PM
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Women with multiple sex partners have high divorce rates. There's no hard proof that promiscuity causes impaired pair bonding, but there's strong evidence in animal models that suggests some relationship with oxytocin, pair bonding, and how this system might be impaired in cases of promiscuity. It seems to be different in men, since the principle hormone for men in pair bonding is ADH (AKA vasopressin).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:02 PM
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Why on earth would someone withold certain sex acts that they 'love' for absolutely no reason? Because "love" is a bullshit concept peddled by feminists. Either her pussy gets wet for you or it doesn't. If it doesn't, she won't want to do things that she likes to do with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:00 PM
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15 n is very high but then quickly reach there yourself, you gain perspective of how it’s not as difficult to achieve as you previously thought The fact that it is so easy for women to reach that number is the reason why it's alarmingly high. Anything beyond a virgin is less than ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 01:59 PM
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we don't have prudish standards. Nice try with the shaming/gaslighting, but not all men lack self-respect and wish to be walking cuckolds. By all means, go marry a whore if that's what you want to do, but don't pretend like those men who don't like walking cum receptacles as LTRs are "prudish."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 01:58 PM
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You can be clear as crystal with your partner, but at the end of the day if she misses how Chad's big dick felt in her pussy, then she'll find some reason to break up with you. Promiscuous women make for poor long term partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 01:57 PM
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Who would do such a thing? That’s how you lose a friend. You'd be surprised. I vetted a woman I was considering for a LTR about a year ago through similar methods. I managed to get close enough to two of her "girlfriends" for them to spill the beans about her past history. This is a valuable skill for men to develop unless they want to gamble with their future.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 01:56 PM
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The reason being that it's either going to be a problem or it isn't It's always going to be a problem if a woman has a sexual past. It may not manifest by directly being a subject of discussion, but women miss Chads' dicks and want to branch swing ASAP. There will always be some bullshit excuse that women give to initiate a separation, but it boils down to the above reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 01:54 PM
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Still doesn’t make men who lie or manipulate women to get them to sleep with them good people. No one here is talking about "good people," or bad people for that matter. And if we're going along those lines, I consider any woman who has voluntary pre-marital sex to be a bad person, especially if they hide or obfuscate it from future partners. Just like falling victim to a gold digger is a risk a wealthy old man takes, but it doesn’t make the gold digger a good person. This is a false equivalency…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 01:52 PM
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Not necessarily, but it's not the relevant factor here. What is relevant is future behavior, and the likelihood that one won't pair bond well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 01:46 PM
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I'm not saying anything about men because I don't have any data to back up a claim. My belief is that men are less affected by having multiple past sex partners than women are, however. This makes the most sense from an evolutionary perspective, and from the fact that ADH is a key factor here instead of oxytocin.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 08:39 AM
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you’re going to have to take my word for it. I don't, and I don't mean this to be a personal slight against you, but rather a cautious approach towards what women say altogether. But I don’t think many women think “omg he’s slept with so many women, that makes him so attractive to me and now I wanna be one of them”. I don't think it's as blatant as that either. I just know that women acknowledge it in the back of their minds, and if nothing else, it is a fairly important factor, although looks a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 05:08 AM
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doesn’t mean they have consented to be pumped and dumped by them. If you consent to have sex with a man, this is a risk that you carry as a woman. Learn to be a quality woman who doesn't spread her legs for every attractive man you come across. This is the female equivalent of a man wifing a post-wall slut, it's your own poor decision making that is to blame. You still didn't answer the question though, how is it not a contradiction? Either the man is sexually desirable or he's cajoling women in…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 05:03 AM
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I don't care about whatever fairytale reasons you posit about yourself when I know that women prefer men who are sexually successful to those who aren't. As I said in another post, actions>words. I don't believe anything you're saying because most women say similarly, yet act differently when it comes down to it. Talk is cheap here. The proof is in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:38 AM
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think they are getting some like others They're definitely not. No man who gets pussy regularly is paying random sluts online just to say his name or to watch them naked. The people who donate to women's OF or female streamers are basically male feminist incels- that is, men with low self esteem, no self-respect, are overweight/obese/scrawny, are depressed, and are men who were probably raised in single mother households. Funny how no one calls OF out for what it is- predatory. These women are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:36 AM
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No because that preference doesn’t make any sense, and would therefore be very niche One could say the exact same thing about what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:32 AM
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Studies have shown that sexually chaste women tend to settle with sexually chaste men. I've read one study about this, and as usual, it relied on self reporting with a small sample size, and the results were near a university town. These were not generalizable results, plus self reporting n-counts are unreliable because both men and women lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:31 AM
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It's hard to say anything about men because there's very literature pertaining to n count and things like divorce rates, marital happiness, etc. with respect to men. We know that with women there's a strong relationship here, though. The point is that conflating men and women on this subject is a mistake, since our biology is different when it comes to pair bonding.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:30 AM
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The literature actually shows that low n count people tend to settle with one another And that literature is dubious because it relies on self-reporting, which we know is notoriously inaccurate for both men and women when it comes to sexual history.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:28 AM
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I couldn’t care less if my partner has been with 2 or 10 people. But if I find out he’s been with like 50+, yeah, that’s a turnoff. Because I assume at some point he’s been a player manipulating women to put more notches on his bedpost, and that’s gross and makes me question his character and intentions. Actions>words. I have no proof that it's a turnoff because I haven't seen how you actually act around such men. And at 50+, you said it yourself, it's because he's a desirable man. So which is i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:28 AM
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Because men pair bond differently, and it seems that vasopressin is the key hormone for men on pair bonding based on our studies of voles. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK97287/#:~:text=However%2C%20in%20males%20there%20is,the%20male%20for%20its%20mate.&text=Conversely%2C%20infusion%20of%20AVP%20during,formation%20of%20a%20partner%20preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 09:40 AM
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Absolutely not, it’s such a turn off knowing that my experiences with him are something that he’s already had with other girls Actions>words. Women seek out men who have social proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 09:39 AM
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Doesn’t anyone care about men and their ability to “pair bond”? I am a man of science by trade (medicine), so I definitely do care. It seems, however, that this can rationally be explained by the fact that vasopressin plays a larger role in male pair bonding than oxytocin does (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK97287/#:~:text=However%2C%20in%20males%20there%20is,the%20male%20for%20its%20mate.&text=Conversely%2C%20infusion%20of%20AVP%20during,formation%20of%20a%20partner%20preference.). Howev…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 09:38 AM
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And here, folks, we have a classic example of blue-pill shaming tactics that appeal to emotion, but ultimately fall flat in actually delivering any substantive points. wasting their lives obsessing over how many dicks have previously been in their GF? It's hard to call an observation an "obsession" unless you have a history of one person repeatedly bringing up a subject, often in an irrelevant context. This is a good example of trying to shame a group of people through a straw man, take note fol…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:02 AM
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they sure spend a lot of time talking about women, badgering women, harassing women... They have to talk about it to (a) wake other men up to the farce of marriage in the west and (b) to respond to feminists who are demonizing them as a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 04:58 AM
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I never discussed the age factor in this, and I agree with your assessment, at least as far as the west goes. Western degeneracy has resulted in teenagers having sex from an early age, racking up the n-counts in women by the time they enter early adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 02:42 AM
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It happens all the time, but it's not "men" who get it, it's Chads specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 07:06 PM
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I come from a good home so I doubt I'd be a whore like most western women are, but you honestly never know. I think that I'd have more social media presence by virtue of being attractive, and a line of simps to buy me things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 05:32 PM
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This isn't the sort of question that women will ever answer honestly to. This is something you observe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 05:30 PM
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Women who sleep with multiple men before marriage show an upwards tendency to divorce based on their n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 05:15 PM
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And yet, people are marrying less and less plus divorce rates are high. "Compatability" didn't change in the past 50-70 years. Women seeking chad's dick more easily without repercussions did change, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 02:45 PM
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I'll have to disagree on that. Physically I'm much better at training in my late 20's, and I look better than I did in my early 20's, even though I looked good in my early 20's as well. I think late 20's and early 30's are that mix of experience and physical ability that lend to a "prime."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 02:27 PM
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It's completely common for men and women to go for their own age when dating, at any age Yeah and it's completely common that those women initiate divorces due to an "unhappy marriage," or end up not marrying because guys that age are waking up to what a raw deal it is for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 02:24 PM
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You can't obscure that aspect of sexual attraction. It's built into our bodies to be attracted to people who fit the paradigms of male/female sexual attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 02:22 AM
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what women get out of sex is manipulated No it's not. You're absolving women of the agency to make rational choices. They could make the guy wait if they had any integrity, but ultimately these women just want to get their rocks off. They display a lack of self control, and they only have themselves to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 11:39 PM
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wouldn’t say sex is inherently the most moving thing a person will ever experience. No one said it's the most "moving" experience. It's a strong biological drive akin to a junky seeking his next high. It's silly to compare something as powerful a chemical and pleasure related release as sex/orgasm to the things you mentioned. I’d take cuddling. There are times I’m not in the mood to fuck, but I never don’t wanna have my arms around my LTR. An utterly meaningless platitude. Most people cuddle aft…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 11:36 PM
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but one cam-girl is occupying 10's if not 100's of men It's not just cam girls who gain a sense of entitlement in the process. It's all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 10:25 PM
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And? It's a fair comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 10:22 PM
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*cuddling *roller coasters *warm baths *good food *good conversation *accomplishment Comparing one of the strongest innate biological reward mechanisms to these things is facetious at best, and idiocy at its worst
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 10:21 PM
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This; these women are acting in an incredibly predatory manner, similar to a game host who takes advantage of a degenerate gambler.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 10:19 PM
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No, its not detrimental to everyone. In fact, simps deliberately purge themselves out of dating pool with their desperate behavior This is a myopic view of the situation. Yeah, they purge themselves, but they were never your competition to begin with. Most simps are ugly male feminist types. More importantly, their behavior enables a culture of female privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 10:19 PM
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different people have different personalities and that certain people are more likely to be tricked than others. Irrelevant when naive and "smart" women alike are sleeping withh these men. And you're going to instead pretend that a guy can just walk up to any chick, flex his assholery at her, and her panties will drop in mere moments. Pretty much, as long as he's Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 09:36 AM
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Relying on men's or women's reporting makes that study or any other similar type a shitty one. Until we find an object measure (i.e. measuring specific biochemical parameters during sex), taking women's words as truth is beyond stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 06:19 AM
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Both genders care about more than just looks. It's just that men are less picky because they can impregnate multiple women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 06:17 AM
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No, what you hear on this sub is disdain for (a) single mothers (who are mostly older) or (b) marrying older women With (b), it's mostly because these women have had sex with multiple men, for free, and you're giving away your commitment to them when they're undeserving of it. I don't think I've ever heard of anyone on this sub disliking men who are banging older women. If anything, it just goes to show why women are divorcing at that age- just to look for young men to have sex with because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 06:16 AM
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specifically targeting women who are unlikely to reject them It's not specific nor targeted. You're either considered hot by most women, or you're not. There is no magical sign that says "she won't reject me." You're doing that blue pill thing where you draw up imagined goalposts to make yourself feel like you're making a valid argument. Unfortunately for those assholes, there is a limited supply of emotionally vulnerable pussy. Yeah too bad all those strong women are still fucking the same old …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 06:12 AM
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Why are you talking about leaders of society as opposed to the average person? The leaders of most societies are hypocrites and degenerates, with a few exceptions here and there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 12:13 AM
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Women have been choosing dangerous, exciting, powerful guys since forever No they haven't. They've always wanted to do that, but patriarchal societies stopped that shit in its tracks for the good of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 11:08 PM
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They are usually the kind of guys who didn’t engage in casual sex or were more traditional in their views that were passed over during the party years. See, this is you trying to ascribe blame to people who are victims to a darwinian sexual marketplace. Regardless, these men deserve better than used up sluts for LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 11:02 PM
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Considering how much asshole behavior is openly reviled now instead of accepted as "how men are", there's not much reason for the average woman to accept those traits in a partner once she's a fully-grown adult. And yet, this statement is utterly certifiable as bullshit because we know for a fact that it's asshole men who are rewarded with the most pussy. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 10:59 PM
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It's not being myopic. There are plenty of men who are genuine assholes who get way more pussy than the nicest, most confident ugly guys. The takeaway here is that the way you look is by far the most important determinant of attraction. Personality is a significantly smaller part of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 10:51 PM
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is becoming less important globally year by year. Yeah, that's why marriage rates are dropping and divorce rates are still high, right? Men are waking up to the fact that they were lied to from a young age, and recognize that slutty women don't make for good LTRs. The market decides who “deserves” what. Akin to a free economic market, the old invisible hand needs some help from society to make sure things don't devolve into degenerate greed, as they have due to the 80/20 split and men marrying s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 10:44 PM
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Why should men have higher standards for casual sex? They don't have to invest much into a relationship when they get the most valuable part of it (vagina).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 10:41 PM
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Who cares if it's a social construct? It's still important. Only quality, virgin women deserve commitment. The rest are subpar.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 04:04 AM
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Corn syrup and HFCS are also considered sugars. There are tons of different sugars used in modern foods, some which are worse than others, but the overall omnipresence of them is what's troubling.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 04:03 AM
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Yeah that is my standard, because that's what defines sexual attraction, as well as the sexual haves versus the sexual have nots. I fail to see how your last line is pertinent when we're talking about men who look decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 04:02 AM
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Because that's often the case in the west. I'm not blaming all women. There are many instances where women from good backgrounds end up with a genuinely abusive/manipulative/cheating husband, but these are definitely the minority in the west. We know women initiate most divorces and it's likely to look for new Chad dick. We also know that women are having bastard children quite often with Chad from ONS/casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 04:00 AM
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Men do have standards, specifically Chads do, which is why they're having bastard children left/right, and don't commit to skanks because they have others lined up for them. You should address the multitude of simps with your comment, most of whom are male feminists, who bend over backwards to give entitled women whatever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 03:57 AM
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Yeah. I'd argue that a lot of this is because american cuisine is simply trash at cooking veggies. If you're just boiling your veggies and throwing it on a plate, of course you're not going to want to eat them. Gotta make it palatable like any other food.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 03:56 AM
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Given that it's women who lack self control, they have no one but themselves to blame. Also, unless you're a virgin and value domesticity, I don't think any guy should immediately be willing to sell commitment to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 03:55 AM
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I think there's one major asterisk that needs to be put here in that it's primarily western/American boomers who deserve hate. Non-western boomers aren't necessarily as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 08:59 PM
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I've seen more men abandoning their families and children than women No, you've seen more Chads doing this. Maybe women shouldn't be irresponsible and open their legs for unreliable men just because they want casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 08:58 PM
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The first mistake here was a woman giving a man advice about sex. If there's one thing that any reader here should be keen on, it's that women have it much easier in the sexual marketplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 08:57 PM
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boomers? or Soros? if you think that one jewish billionaire has enough pull to effect such a change, you're delusional. It's definitely boomers as a whole who did this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 08:51 PM
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It's not just portions, I'd argue the quality of food has also changed. Compare what people ate 50-60 years back to what we eat now and you'll likely see fewer whole foods, and a diet that is way higher in sugar than before. Sugar is being added to so much shit that you wouldn't expect it to be in, and we all know how great sugar is for your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 08:38 PM
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Depends what you mean by look decent Go ask your average tinder skank for her answer if you want to know what it depends on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 08:35 PM
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often keeps people from finding time to exercise or cook healthy meals plays a massive role as well. It does, for sure, but at the end of the day it's on a person to adapt to these inevitable circumstances and fit in cooking healthy foods/exercising regularly. If I can manage these things in med school/residency, where I'm busting my ass studying or seeing pts in a high-stress environment, then I think your average 9-5 joe can pull it off if they're committed enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 07:42 PM
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Money doesn't get a woman wet. It's just a social signifier, and has no bearing on physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 07:40 PM
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You can't even explain or argue properly. But please, I'm all ears. How is it not gaslighting?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 07:39 PM
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You're saying that someone doesn't go outside because their views about women don't coincide with yours. You're trying to convince someone that their perception about this issue is somehow distorted, or inaccurate, even though it's not, and you're trying to shame them. That is the definition of gaslighting almost to a tee. So please, own up to your dishonest rhetoric and shaming tactics. I've been around these forums long enough to know how you male feminist bpers try to skirt around trying to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 06:09 AM
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You made an ad hominem attack on someone else. You didn't merely disagree with someone, nor did you address why you think what he said was a "simplistic generalization." So yeah, you are a gaslighter, like most bluepillers are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 06:05 AM
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It may be a free market, but it's like comparing a third world bazaar to a first world, high-end mall. What you're getting in one place is nowhere near the same in quality as the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 03:49 AM
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Paying for expensive meals for the prospect of sex is. The prospect of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 03:46 AM
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Is a dinner date really that big an investment? The fact that you look at like this tells me that you have it all wrong in your head. Your investments are your looks. If she is wet enough to want to fuck you, the place you take her to for a date doesn't matter. The food she puts in her belly doesn't matter. The money you spend on her doesn't matter. In fact, I encourage all men to pick an expenseless venue for the first date to test out if you're being used as a wallet or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 03:46 AM
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If you're obese, smelly, and gross, you definitely need to work on that first lol Definitely true, but the blue pill hypocrisy is that women don't have to- something that they like to avoid talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 03:33 AM
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No it doesn't. Looks do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 03:31 AM
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Have you? Gaslighters like you tend to be far removed from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 03:31 AM
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Ugly people just fuck other ugly people. That may have been more truthful prior to OLD, but thanks to OLD chads are sleeping with ugly women as well. Even low tier pussy is better than a gap in chad's sex schedule.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 03:30 AM
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Of course, but it's not that simple. When this becomes a widespread problem, it becomes the average man's problem. When it becomes the average man's problem, then there are fewer and fewer quality women, which means that more and more average men will lower their standards and marry tainted women. Degeneracy breeds degeneracy like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 09:24 AM
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I don't have anything against men and women who have casual sex, if they're both consenting to it I do. Because now that woman is tainted and no longer a good marriage prospect. Which means she'll likely be a shit mom and wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 12:56 AM
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No, because I believe in traditional gendered roles, and that a man should be the breadwinner, even if his wife earns more than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 12:44 AM
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Yeah, I'm sure. Getting married in and of itself isn't going to be majorly impacted by the economy. People will still cohabitate and have kids if that were the case. It's clear that it's the institution of marriage that's at fault here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 05:36 AM
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Why do you assume that tribes where women don't cover their breasts means that it isn't sexualized? It could just be that women aren't shamed for revealing their breasts in those cultures. These are two separate and distinct issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 09:50 PM
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No need to change your view. That's a completely valid view, and a reason why I never buy anything for a woman on our first few dates. We either split or choose an activity that involves no money.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 09:49 PM
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Because it's not really about the "butt" specifically, but about the whole shape of the hips/posterior region of the body. "It's not that I find your face attractive, it's that I find the anterior portion of your head really nice to look at." Do you realize how ridiculous you sound?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 09:47 PM
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basic assortative mating paradigm Can you expand on what this means?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 09:45 PM
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You blue pillers can ignore the mountain of evidence posted around here that supports both of the assertions I made. That's your fault for burying your head in the sand. In other words, your feelings are getting in the way of logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 09:45 PM
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High divorce rates, and the basic AF/BB paradigm tell me that this isn't accurate. Women are largely not settling down with Chads. They're doing it with financially stable beta males.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 05:44 PM
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Because women don't need to entertain or be charismatic. They can be boring and still have success in life by riding on their looks while they're young. Men don't have that luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 05:42 PM
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Divorce rates are definitely still high, even if they aren't increasing. Also, the apparent decrease in divorce rates has to do with the more disturbing trend that people are marrying less. Most likely because men are waking up to the misandrist farce of marriage in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 05:42 PM
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The difference between using Insta and using "Cisco WebEx" as a dating platform is that the former is widely used for this purpose while the latter isn't. I'm not saying that every esoteric service be considered, just the ones that are germane to the OLD statistic. It's intellectually dishonest to not use these, and as such, the stat you're reporting is highly misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 05:41 PM
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One hundred and six couples This is not a statistically significant finding. Also, from the study (which you didn't link to a full version of) The participants were recruited from a northeastern university and surrounding areas using fliers and advertisements. This is not a randomly selected population and the results are highly dubious in this very old study.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 05:34 PM
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Sounds like victim blaming to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 06:51 AM
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Statistically, that's the most likely outcome. Nope. Slutty women marry non-slutty (low-value) men. That's the most likely outcome, hence the high rates of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 06:40 AM
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And the thing is, this kind of casual sex is very uncommon. Not true at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 06:36 AM
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Yep. I'm a millennial and I can already see a lot of my former peers and fuckbuddies settling for a bunch of beta dudes for the most part. I've never asked them it personally, but I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that they don't fuck those husbands with nearly the same passion, or do the same things that they did with their former sex partners with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 06:32 AM
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If you want to witness AF/BB it's not some magical hidden truth. Look at who women are hooking up with on tinder versus the types of guys women are marrying in their 20's or early 30's. That will tell you everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 05:47 AM
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I already provided that proof. You said that there is no basis for women lying about their sex count, but that was certifiably false. You can't even admit you were wrong- this tells me everything about you, and your demented worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 04:08 AM
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As are you. But more importantly, I proved your "no basis" assumption to be incorrect. Go figure, you didn't even have the spine to admit you were blatantly wrong. Knowing how disingenuous you are, I'm sure you'll keep on saying that there's no basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 03:19 AM
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How are they completely different usages if they're both being used as dating platforms? You're now accusing me of being a troll because I pointed out the stupidity and reductiveness of that stat you quoted. Classic blue pill tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 03:13 AM
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I don't need luck. I just don't look for it in places like the west where sluts are common.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 03:02 AM
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considering that study was done on a population basis. What other basis would we go on? That's really the best excuse you can come up with in response to a study disproving what you're saying? Not to mention - your initial comment's extreme hyperbole. TIMES FOUR. You think all woman's N is 4x what they really say? Depends on the woman, but at an n=9 claim, I'd say that's not hyperbole.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 03:01 AM
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But that's the point- why make such a stupid distinction if it's germane to the discussion to lump them both into the same category?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 12:21 AM
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Yet they're still being used as platforms for dating/hooking up. Hence why your stat was misleading because it uses such a narrow criterion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 12:01 AM
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I should take a stats class? You don't even know the difference between a normal distribution and a skew.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:57 PM
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Yes by 2 people as per the lie detector study. In this particular instance, with this particular data set, yes by two. You have no basis to say that this is a universal, hard-set number. The more accurate takeaway from the study is that women lie about their past sex partner count. Polygraphs aren't hard science, anyways, so it's more important to view the trend than the exact numbers women are claiming.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:56 PM
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It would count if it were used as a platform to meet others for dating/hookup purposes. You haven't cited a fundamental reason that separates these apps from OLD apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:55 PM
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The study said that the average n count when women were being their most honest is under 5 which puts her within range of that average. Within what range? You mean more than double the stated increased number that women were claiming? You think she is lying because you are bitter and can't trust women. And you think she's telling the truth because you're a bitter slut trying to cover up another slut's shady sexual past. We both know what you're trying to do, but men are increasingly waking up to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:55 PM
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This is why the world doesn't take you seriously. You have zero standards and view a woman with a sexual history as normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:53 PM
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This is getting tiring. For the last time: I don't need to bring him up when I'm talking about his girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:05 PM
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Four years is nothing for a LTR, so yeah, that is whore-like behavior. Not all non-virgins are whores. Women who were widowed, women who were actually abused, etc. are not necessarily bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:05 PM
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Yes, the studies showed that women subtracted 2 from their true number It's not that simple. There is no such claim that women of different n-counts strictly adhere to the -2 criterion. N is normally distributed with a large right skew (long right-hand tail). Do you even know what a normal distribution is? It's either skewed or it's normal. So which are you claiming it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:03 PM
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The point is that Instagram is an online application that can be used for dating purposes. It can absolutely be considered a dating platform among other things. These studies don't take this into account based on their criteria. Hence, that statistic you quoted is highly misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:02 PM
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I didn't call you a whore; I don't know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:01 PM
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You start with the assumption that she's telling the truth and then examine behaviors and talk to her friends about experiences to gauge if it is the truth. That's a bad assumption to start from, though, since we have proof that women tend to lie about this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:00 PM
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so where are you getting these double digit accusations from? Where are you getting double digit accusations from? The OP's gf supposedly had an n-count of 9, which I called out as likely a lie because women lie about their n-count. So which is it, are women lying or are they not? Because in the post before this you literally said that I had no reason to believe that most women lie. I do take issue with randomly accusing people of lying because you are bitter and sad. The irony is that people li…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 10:59 PM
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You're damn right I am- a man with standards who doesn't like whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 10:56 PM
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I didn't say he's not lying. That's your assumption. I did not mention it in my OP because I was talking about his girlfriend. This isn't really hard to comprehend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 10:56 PM
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That's a misleading statistic, and I think you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 10:55 PM
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but the number of men who look like they're not even trying is astounding. You could say the same of women, especially given how many of them are obese or overweight these days. But as usual, bluepillers like to pretend as though men=women, even though the dating market is strongly biased in women's favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 10:54 PM
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Only 27% of the younger US population uses online dating A very inaccurate and misleading statistic. People aren't exactly upfront about their use of OLD apps, not to mention a lot of social media platforms like instagram aren't usually counted in these types of studies. The actual number is probably way higher for the younger population.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 10:53 PM
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No, you should re-read what you wrote. You're asking me why I didn't accuse the man of lying when I'm specifically addressing him about his gf's n-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 10:52 PM
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Why ever go in to a LTR with your logic? Because there are virgin women out there from good families/homes, with traditional values, who make for good wives. All women are liars, right? Lmao More bluepill strawmen. You're only making yourself look ingenuous like most bluepillers are when you say stuff like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 10:51 PM
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The cautionary measure is watching behavior and keeping track of story consistency, not automatically assuming someone is lying. Those are parts of it, but you should definitely assume a woman is lying about her n-count. When you start from that assumption you can gauge her actual count through her behavior and various other red flags that come up. If 9 is fairly promiscuous then i must be a fucking man whore at 18 lmao Men =/= women. No one cares if you slept with 18 ugly/fat women, anyways. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 10:50 PM
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Because that's the implication. No, that's your strawman. That's not the implication at all. The general rule is that both men and women lie about their sex counts. I'm especially wary of promiscuous women, however, because they know that even the most sex-positive men will see her as "less" once they find out she has so many partners. All of the research we have thus far shows that N is normally distributed among both men and women. Actually no, that's not what the research shows. We already kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 10:48 PM
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You have no reason to believe most women would lie or that most women have double digit numbers https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3936-fake-lie-detector-reveals-womens-sex-lies/ How's that for starters? You sound terribly bitter over something that cant affect you It sounds like you're projecting and are bitter that many men are waking up the fact that sluts are being shamed for their disgusting pasts. And yes, it can affect me if I'm LTRing a non-virgin woman, since the divorce rates go wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 10:46 PM
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Because I'm addressing the guy about his gf. I don't need to call his purported n-count into question when I'm not discussing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 10:44 PM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-americans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high/ The actual numbers are probably way higher, because men overreport how often they're having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 09:07 PM
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Hell, she could be lying still She is. but i have no reason to believe that she is. Because you're easy to fool. She gets LTR benefits from you by lying about how much of a slut she actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 09:04 PM
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It's not an accusation, more of a cautionary measure. This applies to men and women. Also, that's not a catch 22. You're doing that blue pill thing of strawmanning. The person in this example said that their girlfriend claims an n count of 9, which is fairly promiscuous. It's likely that she's lying about her actual number.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 09:03 PM
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I don't believe what women say about this matter. They lie about their sexual history all the time to appear more chaste than they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 08:59 PM
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I didn't like mindhunters much, felt very overrated and was recommended to me by a co-worker. The rest of those shows are OK but nowhere near as good as most seasons of GoT. The point being that opinions are like assholes and everyone has got one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 07:05 PM
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I don't trust what men or women say about their n counts for different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 07:02 PM
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Because most women lie about their n count, and for promiscuous women this is especially true. She probably has an n count in the 20s or 30s, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 07:02 PM
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my gf has 9. Sorry to break it to you but you're probably getting played.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 09:15 AM
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Plenty of high value men who are fucking her know about it- they just don't say anything about it or care to let the beta male she marries know about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 03:23 AM
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because men have begun enabling it. Well, I agree with this sentiment in that it's mainly the fault of male feminists/sexually desperate men who simp. But I won't pretend as though women have no agency in all of this. Whores are genuinely horrible people for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 04:33 AM
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Sounds like victim blaming when the average girl these days is just looking to ride the cock carousel as opposed to commit to a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 02:38 AM
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Those are your words, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 02:36 AM
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No one gives a fuck about communes or "community" anymore. Also, even in the most old fashioned villages where there was a tight-knit network of non-blood-related families, no man was literally raising another man's child with the "greater good" in mind. All that you're encouraging is taking responsibility for someone else's lack of responsibility. If this is done for genuine purposes, like adoption, that's a separate story. But to marry a single mother or something is definitely a form of cucko…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 12:43 AM
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most normal people have neither the time nor the energy to treat relationships as antagonistic and hostile interactions. People actually do like companionship, affection, reciprocation and generosity Who said it's antagonistic? The hard truth is that marriage is very much a material contract at the end of the day. And if divorce rates + low marriage rates in the west are any sign of it, it's rarely a sign of "affection" or true love. Those are only things that Chad gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 11:53 PM
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I mean, divorce happens. Are these people never supposed to marry again? Depends, was the initial divorce done for petty reasons like most western women pursue it for? Then they deserve no chance for redemption when it involves selfishly ruining the lives of your kids and ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 11:52 PM
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It's not just the capacity to have kids that's germane here. It's the want to have more kids. Some women only want 1-2 children, and that may be a huge problem she already has that kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 11:51 PM
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very rigid and unsupported biological essentialism that you seem to ascribe. That's easy for you to say when you're not the one spending your time, effort, money, and life raising another human being under your roof. It's human nature to want your kin to be blood related, ideally your own biologically related children. There's nothing wrong with wanting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 11:49 PM
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We all know a woman who dates ugly or shitty men despite having many options. No, I don't know any such unicorn. They either come from traditional/conservative homes, or they're settling for a betabuxx. There's not a single "modern" girl I know of who settles for less. That's just hypergamy and gynocentrism in action.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 11:41 PM
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The golden rule is that if she has mainly close-up pictures, or she's only showing photos in a group, she's the fat/ugly one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 11:40 PM
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You're a prime example of not believing what women say, and watching what they do, instead. I have a list of sluts in my phone who've tried to get me to commit, and they become bitter when I refuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 11:39 PM
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I’ve met way more women who wanted relationships than I have who just wanted to hook up. No, you've met more women who wanted relationships with betabuxx because they're done fucking on the carousel. There's a difference. Let's not pretend as though young women are extremely promiscuous due to OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 10:21 PM
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This. I don't know why people pretend like there isn't a stigma attached to hookup dating which might lead to people underreporting that they use it. Especially true of women, since they underreport or lie about anything that reveals how promiscuous they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 10:19 PM
2

Chads are rare, and usually the type of man that women are trying to lock down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 10:17 PM
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redpill is just incel in denial. I've been redpilled/blackpilled even before I found out what those terms are, and I'm far from an incel. This is just an excuse that male feminists use to shame men who have enough self respect or intelligence to realize that the west is a gynocentric farce, and that there's a decline in standards for women because of desperate simps practically worshipping women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 04:57 AM
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While I agree that people should maintain a boundary between person and professional life, I've noticed that women have a harder time doing that than men do. It's mainly women who sexually advance on certain men in my field (medicine)- it's just that most guys don't report it as "seckshooal hurrassment"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 03:09 AM
2

loool someone call the fire department for that burn
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 02:52 AM
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So it's ok for her to talk that way to him, but not the other way around? The hypocrisy of feminists just doesn't end.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 06:31 PM
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A virgin, non-vain woman who has domestic skills and is willing to be a faithful wife and mother is a good start.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 06:04 PM
0

I don't care. The state of the west speaks for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 06:03 PM
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Good luck enforcing that when so much of the male population in the west has zero standards. It takes a concerted effort for this to have any meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 04:55 PM
0

That's cute on paper, but that's the reality of how male feminists act.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 04:54 PM
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only to find she's still not interested And the kicker is how common these women are, as well as how often they cheat or did sexual things with past carousel partners that they don't do with their effeminate betabuxx husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 12:30 AM
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you see being kind and helping people as some kind of humiliating servitude Generally speaking, male feminists/simps show women kindness that they don't show to men or ugly women. It's an indication of hypocrisy and a lack of genuine kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 12:27 AM
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Especially marriageable women, with the number of sluts due to OLD and promiscuity being widespread.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 08:05 PM
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it's not really that apocalyptic if men and women aren't going to marry much in the future. No matter which way you slice it, with marriage, without it, etc. if kids don't have two parental figures, one male and one female (especially the male), they're probably going to turn out fucked up. Degeneracy breeds degeneracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 08:04 PM
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Nothing about him is inherently high value, as in he's not a chad by any means, but he can afford to have a harem of women anyways because of his power/money. FWiW I disdain him, but there's no doubt that people with that much influence get pussy regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 08:02 PM
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And yet, someone is trump's position probably has regular sex with a harem of escorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 05:09 PM
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Women definitely aren't going without sex. This is certifiably false, and survey results on this subject are unreliable because women tend to underrate their number of sex partners. Men don't have high standards like women do and an 8 will readily fuck a 4 because "pussy."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 05:08 PM
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An entire generation doesn't suddenly become homosexual. Women love white chads, even if they don't say it openly. Lasers don't fix the wall, and you end up looking like a plastic bimbo if you're into all of those cosmetic surgeries and operations.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 05:07 PM
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Baby gen z isn’t Into chads this isn’t millennials. Big lol- possibly the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on this subreddit. Women across all ages have been into Chad. That's just in their nature. And the wall doesn't just apply to white women, although they do tend to hit it faster and harder than other races.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 02:06 AM
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I guess you meant a string of Chads, but that doesn't really address the point I was making. Just because women these days are whores doesn't mean that they don't wish that they could lock Chad down. Even more true as they approach the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 01:16 AM
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Why can’t they do it for the betterment of society the way you expect women to? Because it's not their responsibility, as individuals, to control the behaviors of others. What I'm asking of women is to control their own behavior for the greater good. You're making the mistake of conflating the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 10:44 PM
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Why aren’t they putting up with the mothers and another man’s bastard for the betterment of society? Because it's not their responsibility to do so. It's the father's, the mother's, and the government's. There is no personal gain involved by denying to raise another man's bastard child, hence the equivalency you're trying to draw here is false. If anything, men opting to raise another man's bastard contributes to the degradation of society because it encourages women to be sluts with no repercus…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:17 PM
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I’m 22 and we all have a roster with men What do you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:38 PM
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Why don’t fathers choose to play an active role in their kid’s life? They do, at least the good ones do. Why don’t they run to marry single moms and adopt kids? They won’t be getting any benefits for it, but it’s for the betterment of society. Because single mothers are usually undependable trash, and another man's bastard isn't anyone else's responsibility. You're trying to draw equivalancies that don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 03:34 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 12:59 AM
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The wage gap is a myth. Women who divorce for petty reasons, or for a paycheck, don't deserve alimony. If a man has no say in abortion, he should be able to opt out of paying child support. Whatever you say affects women has its correlate in men. They're in no way getting a raw deal here, especially with the liberties afforded to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:32 PM
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Even if you wrap it up, you still carry a larger chance than if she were on birth control. Also, you never know if she's the type to try sneaky shit like using a used condom to get pregnant, or getting you drunk enough to rape you to get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:31 PM
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You're very naive if you think that the 80/20 rule is going to be invalidated by IG. It doesn't matter what platform you go on- you, as a man, are still competing with more attractive men than yourself. Women aren't known for negotiating for less, no matter how you try to worm your way around OLD platforms.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:30 PM
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By not caving to women's demands, by not marrying unreliable sluts, by demanding more of them than being Chad's cumbucket during their youth, and by encouraging men to actually be men instead of effeminate losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:28 PM
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Yeah I have no idea what point you're trying to make here. What concerns are not being addressed that women have?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:42 PM
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Sounds like victim blaming tbh. Some men just aren't lucky when it comes to their height, bone structure, hairline, etc. You can be the most fit guy ever but if you have that bad mix of genetics, you will inevitably suffer for it on the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:41 PM
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In the real world it’s roughly 50/50 in the tinder world its 80/20. The tinder world is increasingly becoming the real world, especially for younger generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:39 PM
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A lot women would choose the hot guy in the next state rather then the average one in her own state. Hypergamy in action. Patriarchal societies for centuries realized that women will never be happy if they get what they want, so they restricted their sexual freedoms to make sure that their degenerate wants didn't hurt society as a whole. When the west decided to take those constraints off, it invited this 80/20 split, and now as more and more men become sexless, and as more and more bastard chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:38 PM
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True- my own mother was in that middle ground, but I give her credit for being especially tenacious. I think that's a difficult position for a woman to be in, to balance being a good mother while working, which is why the balance sways in one direction or the other unless the job allows for lenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:36 PM
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Ok, but then if a woman’s contribution isn’t appreciated and her sacrifices aren’t taken seriously she’s going to eat the cake. How are traditional women not appreciated? It's mainly women who pushed for equal rights because they're never content, no matter the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:34 PM
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If that was a convincing argument then we wouldn't have a problem That's a weird presumption to make. Individuals can act selfishly, especially when society encourages that type of behavior. Won't change the fact that it's deleterious. It'll be convincing soon enough when men keep refusing to settle for women, birth rates keep declining, and kids keep growing up without fathers in their lives. It's an inevitability of women's selfish behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 05:56 PM
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Given that male feminists made it this way, I agree. Doesn't mean that other men can't change this self destructive way of thinking. And given how men are waking up the farce that is feminism, that change is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 05:53 PM
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It is a choice, and you can't have your cake and eat it too. Either be a good mother and rear your kids well or be a career woman. The latter generally won't be as good for a society when most women are pursuing that sort of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 05:52 PM
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Having kids, in and of itself, isn't a positive contribution. Raising those 2.1 kids to be productive members of society, however, is far more preferable than not having kids at all. There's more to this picture than a simple "yes, have kids" or "no, don't have kids."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 05:20 PM
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Meaning what’s so ironic about this whole “all women want assholes because assholes get laid” belief is that is actually pretty misandrist. It assumes that there aren’t a lot of women who are assholes dating those men who are assholes. That's not what misandry is. If anything, this just reveals how shitty feminism is for preaching that men should be respectful and passive when women want the opposite kind of man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 05:19 PM
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From 14 to now (currently 25) I’ve seen many women from all walks of life go through their “bad boy” phase and dated men who were unavailable, unwilling to commit, unfaithful, etc yet were hot and exciting. At 25 many people are past that phase in their life and now looking for something more stable and serious though the men who possess the qualities they seek are often the men they passed over. You just described AF/BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 05:17 PM
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why should that individual care about society as a whole? Why should that individual put the well being of society as a whole over their own well being? Because if every individual acts solely in their own self-interest, they or their posterity will face the repercussions of these actions. We can see this already to some extent with so many kids being raised in broken homes with no male father figures. The degradation of the family unit in the west is already manifesting itself, and it's only go…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 05:15 PM
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DO's yes, but Caribbean docs usually get screwed over and either don't find residencies or rarely get them. Still, even when you factor them in, we're going to face a shortage unless the standards to admit them are lowered. Just FYI, OMFS doesn't make as much as Ortho- you're probably going to top off at half of what ortho makes. The lifestyle is definitely good though, and you can live comfortably. Ortho spine definitely make a good amount of money, but I don't think their hours are that lenien…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 05:13 PM
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Education and economic prosperity are directly linked to smaller families. Got a source on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 05:10 PM
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With the number of single moms who are giving birth to Chad's bastards, as he moves on to fuck other women, I think we're approaching that solution very quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 05:09 PM
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All societies that enjoy economic prosperity end up with lower birthrates. That's a double edged sword. Low birthrates mean that the old become dependent on younger populations for support (dependency ratio). Puts more stress on the young, not to mention many of these societies (e.g. Japan) are depressing af to live in. They have no joy in their lives without kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 05:08 PM
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I don't blame women for doing what is rational in the system they find themselves in. I would also pursue my own interests and goals if I were in their place. I do blame them. At some point as an adult you have to realize that your actions can be shortsighted and bad for society as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 05:06 PM
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Ortho requires like a 5 year residency, is insanely competitive, and the lifestyle is such that you're spending most of your day inside of the hospital. Yeah, you make a good amount of money, but when you look at the time commitment and stress, it's not the best job- certainly not as good as it looks on paper. Also yeah, you touched on why there's going to be a major shortage of internists in the next few decades. Their compensation is dogshit, so people opt for other specialties.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 05:04 PM
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He can straight up pay for it, If you're encouraging prostitution, that's a bad way to go. Aside from the obvious risk of STDs, if you're caught participating in it, legal or not, it's career suicide. Also, doctors aren't quite rich enough to afford escorts regularly. They're upper middle class. People have this dumb notion that doctors make bank, but when you look at their time of schooling, stress, debt, competition, and how tough their jobs usually are, it's not a great vocation. It's why a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:54 PM
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In medicine, and I can confirm this based on the types of women that my colleagues have as wives/girlfriends. I would feel bad for them, but their own desperation and lack of standards brought this upon themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:54 PM
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I know that dating me comes with a lifestyle upgrade for most women And so do they. Hence why you're prone to being used/abused instead of being liked for what you have to offer as a man. That's what being a betabuxx means.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:53 PM
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If I publicly list my occupation, I get some matches from educated/employed women. Never never never never mention that you're a physician. I'm a resident and I've learned that it draws the wrong type of crowd- namely gold digging sluts who are trying to trap you with pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:52 PM
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A totally meaningless platitude. You could make stupid generalizations like that about any two disparate things if you blur the lines enough. By that logic I'm a homosexual because I put my penis in a vagina that is located near an anus.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:09 AM
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I don't think people recognize that not all wealthy dudes are stupid, they recognize the position that they're in & aren't about to make ridiculous mistakes/decisions of being some rando girls meal ticket I don't think that most people realize that the political and corporate elite probably have harems of escorts and are very careful about how they meet them. I imagine they have people vet them, blackmail them, threaten to murder them, etc. if they ever try to say anything about them. You don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:04 AM
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Of course these differences matter. Hormones, their release after sex, receptor sensitivity, and upregulation/downregulation over time all correspond to physiological and behavioral changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:59 AM
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They are using it more each year, not sure what your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 11:13 PM
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it's just as common if not more common for people to go into the medical field for the prestige and high salaries than because of empathy for human suffering. Popular myth, but a very dumb one. For the amount of schooling, competition, stress, and cost, medical school is not really worth it anymore for the money. There's going to be a shortage of primary care docs soon because most docs realize this and choose higher paying specialties, but even those aren't the best in terms of residency length…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 08:14 PM
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Maybe a handful are, which is a sign of immaturity. Most would take instant unnecessary aggression as a very bad sign. Another case of watching what women do, not what they say. "Confidence" is a meaningless indicator here. It's all about dominance and aggression in attractive men. You can be the most confident fat guy in the world and it won't get you laid. But more importantly here, we're highlighting the inherent hypocrisy in modern feminist notions. They try to encourage men to be respectful…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:48 PM
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Modern americans don't have what it takes to participate in a civil war. They haven't experienced a fraction is what war entails, especially when resources and infrastructure start dwindling. The military won't let it happen. Any dissidents will be treated as terrorists and get hunted down as such. And yeah, China does care about its own people in so far as that they don't want them nuked. It's bad for business, bad for life, and will literally make most of mainland china inhabitable due to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:46 PM
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Divorce rates, degradation of moral norms, degeneracy, and a nonexistent family unit where kids are raised in broken homes, by single mothers, and have no strong male father figures in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:44 PM
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Most men are not having sex, that's true- but there are blackpilled incels and then there are male feminist incels. Two sides of the same coin. Do you have a source that supports your claim that most ugly men are male feminists? Yeah, the aforementioned fact that men are sexless and that women aren't held accountable for promiscuity is the source.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:43 PM
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It's not that simple. There are tons of whores who are sleeping around in their youth and settling for beta buxx once they hit the wall. That's the hypocrisy that people dislike- it indicates something fundamentally manipulative and terrible about a person's character which makes them unfit for long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:56 PM
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This is only true if you live in a society where physically attractive women are given more liberties, freedoms, and social leniency for being attractive- i.e. a society full of male feminists. This was rarely true to an appreciable extent in traditional patriarchal societies, especially ones where the men of the family had a say in who the woman would marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:54 PM
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It's obvious that you're trying to resort to shaming tactics and making people think like they're incorrect because they're shining a light on degenerate, pervasive behavior. But again, I encourage any third parties to look at the statistics we have to make a sound judgment, though simple interactions with young women these days will also tell you everything you need to know about them. And please, before you talk about other people's "imaginged" sex histories, realize that you sound like a giga…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:51 PM
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They do give a shit about their own people and not wanting to create a nuclear post apocalypse for their people. That's the entire reasoning behind nuclear deterrants. I don't know if the US will undergo a civil war, though. People may be divided but they're too weak compared to the military to do anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:49 PM
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I'm neither sexless, bitter, nor am I pretending that they're that way. Your gaslighting tactics might work in other places, but it won't work here. I know the game you're trying to play inside out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:05 PM
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Women are turned on by aggressive or dominant behavior. Not advocating that you beat the shit out of others, but it explains why thugs and their ilk get more pussy on a bad day than nice guys get in their entire lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 01:52 PM
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Dumb comment. There are plenty of male doctors. You don't get to the point of becoming a practicing physician unless you have some degree of empathy for other people's suffering. The reality is that psychology has a low residency training time, and the practice has a flexible schedule such that it accommodates motherhood and pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 01:50 PM
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I work in the medical field, and I can tell you that some of the most stupid, vain, and slutty women have gone on to become licensed professionals in this field. I don't think that seeking advice about sexuality from them is the best idea. They may be good for other actual psychological disorders or just talking through problems, for certain people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 01:49 PM
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foolishly thinking whatever shitty women they meet represent all women. When you're surrounded by an entire generation of vain and egotistical women who sleep around in their youth with other men, men who often only value them for a quick sexual thrill, then pretend as though they're high quality marriage material afterwards, you have to ask yourself if it's just an isolated case or something more pervasive. The data we have about how often women are fucking before marriage, OLD trends, etc. all…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 01:46 PM
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Neither India nor china will drops nuke on each other, but I can definitely see military conflict being a thing, with the US backing india. South asia will look like a war zone soon, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 01:43 PM
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Claiming that dating is symmetrical now is a joke. It's not. Men have it much harder than women do. Please stop pretending otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 01:40 PM
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I think that patriarchal norms made it such that they had to compromise between choosing a man who could provide them stability versus choosing a Chad to get their rocks off, since they knew they'd be slut shamed otherwise. Yes, hypergamy has always been a thing, but for the most part historically it has had a kid kept on it by societal norms, til now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 01:39 PM
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Nah you're describing incels who are statistically a minority. Most ugly men in the west are male feminist incels who put women on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 01:36 PM
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Seriously, it's comical when people act like personality matters and physical appearance doesn't dominate this realm. Not to mention, personality and humor don't come across on dating apps well. That's a face to face sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:23 AM
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Online you can "meet" and filter orders of magnitude more people in much less time And yet, this is a major problem when most of these filters are inaccurate representations of a person, and rely mostly on physical traits that aren't always accurate or reflective of how a person carries themselves in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:22 AM
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It has less to do with safety and more to do with convenience, expediency, and the ability for women to choose from the best dick on the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:20 AM
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Most women don't like to share their man, especially if he's a high value Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:18 AM
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You haven't seen what happens when those 8's don't get what they want. They usually get confrontational or straight up violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:17 AM
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Source
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:16 AM
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Look into the difference between oxytocin and vasopressin in pair bonding with respect to men and women, for starters. It makes sense from an evolutionary perspective that men don't need to attach to one mate as much as women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:16 AM
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The difference is that I'm a man and can still pair bond at the end of the day, plus it's social proof if nothing else. You're making that blue pill mistake of thinking that male and female sexuality are equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 06:44 PM
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Generally speaking, in the west, better. The lack of prospects for reliable men makes them desperate, which is why there are so many male feminists lately (plus a lack of father figures).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 06:43 PM
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It's not wasting my life if I use them for the only thing of worth they have to offer to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 05:21 PM
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I disagree, but if you want to enter into a marriage that's statistically way more likely to fail because she misses Chad's big dick, go for it. Just don't complain about it afterwards like you didn't see it coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 12:25 PM
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Kinda, but that's only because these women are low worth in my eyes. They're sacks of meat with no self control who I use for a quick sexual release, not commitment worthy. I could never see most young women these days as my wife or mother of my kids. They're genuinely vain and awful people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 12:24 PM
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The fact that there are so many women with stories of being abused, used, cheated on, and having to deal with low value men of all kinds says the opposite They're dealing with these men because they have huge standards and only pick Chads. Chads have sexual options so they're less likely to put women on a pedestal. Historically you aren’t aware that this is the most egalitarian time for men compared to when polygyny was far more common. Young men had to compete with older and more powerful men f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 12:22 PM
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I didn't say she's ugly. She average or slightly below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 12:17 PM
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If sex is the goal, I dont know why you're putting virgins on a pedestal because they're not fucking ANYBODY but their husband. Sex is not the only goal. Building a healthy family unit is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 12:17 PM
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Feel free to explain why it's bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 11:03 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 11:02 AM
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Otherwise unattractive men wouldn't be getting any attention at all. They generally don't, unless they're being used as wallets by post wall women. Young men are losing their social skills and graces since they're spending more time online and in isolation playing videogames and watching anime instead of talking to friends of both sexes. Tell me this isn't true. Really? That's your explanation for this widespread decline in men having less sex? That they're playing more video games and watching …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 11:01 AM
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I'd put her at like a 4.5-5 tops. She looks very average in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 10:57 AM
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Always. Men underestimate how horrible a pregnancy with an undesirable slut can be. It's basically a game over situation and will majorly change your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 10:56 AM
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Not true. For the most part I get my pick of women on tinder and bumble, but I rarely stay with any woman for too long. Once the novelty of sex with them wears out, I don't see them as good relationship material. They're generally not good human beings who are worth being around, even if the sex is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 10:53 AM
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didn’t like or care enough about other guys to bother caring if the sex stopped because they got with another girl In my own experience, women say it doesn't bother them but it usually eats ar them on the inside when they can't get you to commit, and know that you're out there fucking other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 10:51 AM
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Don't cave to the sexual norms around you, and follow your religion if that's the case. I know that's easier said than done, but in most cases religions have it right when it comes to sexual norms. The degeneracy of the west is not something that will last long. Stay a virgin til marriage if you can, it's ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 10:47 AM
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women are incredibly forgiving when it comes to looks. Hahahahahaha no. This is a blue pill lie if I've ever seen it. The alpha Chad 80/20 split is literally proof that this isn't the case. More men are becoming sexless than ever before. But women totally aren't picky, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 10:45 AM
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Yep, this is the deciding factor here. Most women don't look as good as they do with makeup on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 10:43 AM
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a 6.5-7. No, she's definitely lower than that. I don't know where you live that you'd rate such a bland looking woman that high, but I regularly see much better looking women than that where I live.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 10:41 AM
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Lol no. There's a reason why even the most mediocre woman can end up doing fine in life by latching onto some guy who earns. Men rarely have that option. For men, either you earn or you become a bum.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 10:39 AM
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Not all men are as low as those women, and many value the privacy and sanctity of their sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 10:38 AM
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And I'm not even sure why unattractive men bother to get mad that hot girls won't even look in their direction. Why should they? Because then, by this transactional nature, no man should put a ring on undependable, non virgin sluts who are just selling their pussy to the highest Chad bidder. Most men dislike women's high standards because they themselves seldom adhere to such standards. On top of it all, it's just a bad model for the family unit as a whole when women are only seeking out instant…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 10:35 AM
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See, what you're saying is the logical way of thinking, but most women do not think like this. They're obviously attracted to shitty, violent, and dominant traits in men. Also the whole "confidence" nonsense goes out the window when the guy isn't attractive. You can be the most confident fat guy in the world, but it won't get you laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 11:46 PM
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No, push and aggressive does not mean desperate. I don't know where you'd get that from. It means a man who aggressively pursues what he wants, even if it means getting violent or confrontational about it. I'm not saying this is a good thing in a man, but it's certainly more attractive than being meek. This whole insecurity spiel you're going on about is much more applicable to shy, reserved men who get pushed around and stepped on by society- traits that women subconsciously acknowledge as unat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:02 PM
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That's not what I said. You should avoid making strawmen to make yourself feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 03:58 PM
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But no, his attitude was very aggressive and pushy. Does it surprise you? This is what turns most women on, no matter how much they claim to dislike it. Women don't like meek, passive men for the most part. They like the aggressive, physically dominant Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 11:50 AM
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If you try and argue they just say "Source please" as if we're writing some graduate level paper where every statement needs to be sourced. To add to this, modern academia in the west is largely run by liberals. It's rare to find research studies that go against the grain of sexual freedom for women, as they never get approved. Anyone who has worked in research knows this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 09:01 AM
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And most women spend too much time on makeup, eating out, whoring themselves out on social media, etc. The point is that both sexes have vices, yet it's mainly men who are punished for it in the sexual dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 11:37 PM
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Who cares? My point still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 11:29 PM
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Fr this guy is a joke- he's trying to do that thing most feminists do in that they attempt to downplay the difficulties of achieving success in some attempt to make the sexual market look "even." Men have it hard, between trying to find good paying employment, looking good, exercising/putting on muscle, and being charismatic. Most women don't work nearly as hard to tick all of those boxes by virtue of them being women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 08:50 AM
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if you really start killing it at work you could also get fat, and still be able to pull attractive women. blue pill thinking. You're not pulling those women in. They're attracted your wealth and will divorce rape you or otherwise use/abuse you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 08:49 AM
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"Becoming a billionaire is actually easy in today's world all you got to do is be productive day by day, limit distractions and have good business intelligence." You can phrase any great feat by brushing off its difficulties the way you just did. Stop pretending as though being a high value man isn't anything short of difficult. If it were easy, there wouldn't be an abundance of male feminist weaklings who are sex-deprived.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 08:48 AM
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Well said, and exactly the position I hold. I will always hold women who adhere to those traditional values you mentioned in the highest esteem. But the average new-age, sexually empowered skank? No thanks, they can go fuck themselves- it's a dog-eat-dog world now, and you feminists did it to yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 08:35 AM
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Why would you help an old woman but not feel any duty towards a young one? Call me old school, but my parents raised me to respect my elders. It eats away at my soul to see how badly people treat old folks in the US. Maybe the random granny I'm being nice to was a thot back in the day, but my desire to help other humans who need it overrides my disdain for sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 08:33 AM
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I never chose for any of this feminism stuff. This is what the bulk of women hamster and say, but it's not really true, is it? When you're tacitly quiet about it, or you support feminism in a roundabout way, you're part of the problem. This is something that most women do because it's in their interest to do so, but there's also a large portion of emasculated male feminists in the west who are proponents of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 08:31 AM
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Single mothers in the west are largely garbage. They're bad decision makers who usually divorce for petty reasons and subsequently end up raising degenerate kids. Single mothers who were made so by an actual abusive husband or widowed are an unfortunate situation because they don't really deserve the trouble that comes with single motherhood, but their kids will end up badly off anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 08:29 AM
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I have no qualms with women professionally as long as they do their job well. I have plenty of colleagues and superiors who are female in my field (medicine)- I have no problem and get along with most of them. I think most men here take issue with women when it comes the part of life dealing with sex/sexual norms. A woman can offer a lot of things outside of sex, but for many men, the second she has a sexual past, that stuff is less important.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 02:11 AM
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No joke, and I don't mean to say this as a humble brag, but fucking too much in a short span of time seriously hurts. Your dick starts to feel inflamed, and then you suffer from a lack of energy/drive, probably from the cocktail of hormones post-orgasm causing receptor downregulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:21 AM
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Still not sure why anyone cares so much about a woman’s purity before they meet her Still not sure how anyone who browses this sub is willfully ignorant to the many valid reasons that men don't want to LTR a walking cum receptacle. But for starters, how about the higher rates of divorce among promiscuous women? How about the lack of self control that this shows? Or the fact that she gave it up to other men, for free, and is charging you a tax for the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:18 AM
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Exactly. It's a means to an end. A man's job is to be a good father figure, provide for his wife/kids, and make sure his house thrives. A woman's job is to not slut it up before marriage, be a faithful wife, and rear kids properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 06:34 AM
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I don't need to. Learning those skills has nothing to do with being a man. It's a waste of my time to do them when I can pay someone else to do them. I earn way more per hour doing doctor shit than any of those household chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 06:30 AM
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Of course there's irony when you don't see that you're the one being ignorant, not others. You've been wrong in your thinking in every way up to this point. You're not quite as smart as you think you are. I'm sure this is reflected in your lack of career and sexual success.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 03:20 PM
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Sure it is. Bet you can't explain why it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 11:59 PM
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I regularly ghost women who I hook up with in ONS's or have 2-3 sexual encounters with. These are not quality women who deserve a modicum of respect, so I have no reservations in ghosting them. I just feel bad for whichever loser guy ends up putting a ring on their fingers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 06:02 PM
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Of course it's ironic when a pompous, supercilious fool doesn't see his own myopic thinking for what it is, but instead calls others ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 06:00 PM
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The irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 02:55 AM
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Him genociding millions as a political leader is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 10:50 PM
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It relates back to the singular point I've been making this entire time- that hypocrisy is a part of the human condition, and not a consequence of religosity or lack of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 02:50 AM
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Stalin did not commit atrocities in the name of atheism. You're trying to make a connection where there is none. You have poor reading comprehension, since I specifically mentioned that people like Stalin aren't doing these things in the name of atheism. You can run if you want- you're just proving your own idiocy here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 02:22 AM
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No atheist has ever committed atrocities in the name of atheism. Because "atheism" doesn't involve group membership. It is simply the lack of theist beliefs. You can certainly find atheists committing atrocities based on whatever their individual ideologies are (e.g. Stalin). Your views on this subject consistently ignore the common factor here- the human condition responsible for the hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 01:29 AM
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"Watch what they do, not what they say." That is what we're discussing here with regards to religion. And I'm saying that this is not an aspect unique to religion. You're looking a specific type of a much larger encompassing hypocrisy. For every one example you mentioned, I could cherrypick several others that atheists tend to exemplify. You can cry and pontificate about how atheists are so much better than theists, but history has shown that they're just as bad if not worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 08:58 PM
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This is the wrong way to think about it. You can try to rationalize a bad situation all you want, but the hard truth is that feminism ends up isolating a ton of men. What you're describing are just coping mechanisms for a situation that should not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 06:11 PM
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The list of rules atheists follow is the same list all law abiding people have. The list of rules theists force on themselves includes those same rules PLUS a ton more, and the examples of theists breaking all those self imposed rules are everywhere you look. Again, what common theme do we observe here? That hypocrisy can be a part of the human condition. It's not shifting goalposts, it's discussing the nature of human beliefs and actions. Your idiocy lies in the fact that you think that people …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 11:23 PM
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or lock down a young one before she can meet someone better? That's the problem with BP thinking. Men who believe in patriarchal norms don't feel the constant need to be on a treadmill of desperation, thinking that this one woman needs to be satisfied ASAP or else. Abundance mentality matters. Being able to walk away from an entitled woman matters. Without a society that enforces patriarchal norms, locking down a young woman means absolutely nothing. You’re not better than the 30 year old women,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 10:03 PM
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What about those who resort to cosmetic surgery? Do they get to circumvent the wall? Cosmetic surgery is rarely that good that a woman's age doesn't show in spite of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 10:00 PM
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How ugly are we talking? If we're talking walmart scooter hambeast, then yeah, maybe you're right. But there are slightly obese and overweight women + plenty of ugly or mediocre looking women who get way, way, way more attention than their male equivalents do. The fact that you're pretending that this isn't obviously the case suggests to me that you're being willfully ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:36 PM
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I mean, there are still plenty of places in the world where patriarchal norms are respected so as to as to minimize the risk of women doing hypergamous shit without punishment. Most of the Muslim world is like that, fortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:34 PM
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You're only 20. You have a lot of time to change your mind, and you probably will. Men and women both get bored of their SO's with time. That's when the true test of their nature begins. If you're truly committed to your SO, then you won't find bullshit reasons to divorce like western women tend to do, or cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:33 PM
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They reject those women when they realize older women are offering nothing of value over younger women Not to mention those older women were slutting it up in their youth for other men. Why would you commit to someone who gave away the most precious aspect of their youth to other men, for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:31 PM
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The wall is more of a result of your lifestyle and it has less to do with static age ranges. It's both, but I think that this is heavily sided towards genetics as opposed to the environment. That is not to say environment doesn't play a part- someone who eats shit, works in the sun all day with no protection, etc. will definitely look older than they otherwise would.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:30 PM
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because most of what makes them attractive is not tied to physical characteristics Very wrong. A betabuxx is not truly attractive to women. This discussion about the "wall" is largely limited to physical attraction. I will say, though, anecdotally men tend to hit the wall later than women do. Also there's the big deal about fertility and how there's a golden age of virility.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:30 PM
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It does make sense in that there are things unrelated to religion that they're hypocritical about. What truth can you garner from this? That people in general have a tendency towards hypocrisy. It's not a unique facet of religion, and membership to a religion doesn't somehow make a person exempt from that. The same person would be a hypocrite in other aspects of their life if you took away the religious aspect of their lives entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:28 PM
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You're missing the point entirely. The attention you get isn't always sexual in nature. It's the small things that count, and unfortunately humans are social animals who suffer without social interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:26 PM
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The "unsweetened soya" sign at the bottom had me rolling, ngl.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 11:20 AM
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You could say the exact same thing of atheists.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 11:18 AM
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No, I'm not saying that men have to live an isolated life. I'm saying that, by default, men are more likely to live isolated lives or have periods of isolation because women, especially young women, have an easier time getting attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 05:12 AM
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seen a couple where the guy was more attractive I see it all the time. Chads who are banging multiple women are usually way more attractive than those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 12:45 AM
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Go down to Miami beach and you'll see an old fat boomer 'dating' a young model. It's all about the $$. What's your point? This is a typical betabuxx scenario with a gold digging slut with a loser old dude. She's not attracted to him, and she's not fucking him with any passion, if at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 12:44 AM
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It also depends on where you live. The more feminized a society is, the more men you'll find slaving away in the gym for a perfect physique, with fewer women in there. It's basically economics. As the price of pussy goes up, the price of dick goes down. Only exceptional Chads thrive in this market at the expense of the rest of the men, and at the expense of the basic family unit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 12:42 AM
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Hasn't been my experience with european women, but south american women are definitely like this. You see some cute chicks dating some very average looking guys. It's a good thing though- indicates that these societies have some patriarchal norms left in them and aren't a shitshow like the US is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 12:40 AM
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Are you literally saying the outside world is nothing but women and sex to you? Those are your words, not mine. Don't put forth strawmen if you're arguing in good faith. As I mentioned, women have an inherent worth that draws others to them. Like it or not, sex/courting are powerful drives and these drive men's attention towards women. Men aren't used for their dicks unless they're Chad; most men have to provide value on a level that most women don't. To deny this is to deny very obvious truths …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 12:38 AM
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That's your modern take on religion- it's certainly not representative of what religious people consider it to be. Most religions don't satify the definition of a "vice" to begin with, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 12:35 AM
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Yes, most men over 30 just wanna be left alone Nah. No human being is truly OK with being left alone. Humans are social animals, and it's hard-coded in our DNA to be social.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 10:45 PM
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No one is forcing men into isolation. You're missing the point. Men are much more likely to face isolation because they have no inherent value like women do. In other words, men need to make some sort of plays in order to gain social value. Women rarely have to do anything of that nature because men will shower them with free attentino.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 10:44 PM
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Religion isn't a vice, and it's incredibly ignorant to paint religious people as having their heads in their grounds. They could say the same of atheists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 10:41 PM
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They're also happier individuals overall, likely due to the sense of community.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 04:18 PM
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I imagine so. You could always sue them but it's likely going to result in failure. I know that even a simple arrest can result in losing your medical license even if you weren't charged.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 05:05 AM
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Women are notoriously unreliable at being taken for their word. Again, actions >>> words. The data we have strongly suggests that women would rather share a high value guy than settle for a beta male, even for ltrs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 05:00 AM
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Of course I read it. I'm just pointing out that your assessment is flat out wrong. For women LTR and smv are ideally one in the same, unless she can get impregnated by Chad and have a beta dude raise the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:32 AM
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Again, people who are casually hooking up don't deserve respect. It indicates to me that this isn't a quality woman, and she never learned to value relationships appropriately to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:29 AM
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plenty of women see male whoring as something that lowers your rmv And yet, those are exactly the types of men who women want to settle down with. This isn't some grand paradox- women just want to have their cake and eat it too when it comes to the men they want to settle down for. This is the nature of hypergamy, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 06:44 PM
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It depends- if it's a serious relationship then yeah, I'd say it's rude. For casual hookups it's not a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 06:42 PM
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So please, arrive at your point. You initially said I was rude, but I wasn't. So what are you saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 05:25 AM
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Because it's hard to be a loose man. I worked hard to get to this point. I can still also pair bond at the end of the day unlike these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 05:24 AM
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I already have fuck buddies for years. I just don't respect them in the same way that I respect traditional, virgin women who know their place in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 05:23 AM
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Funny how the sexist men are the ones who still get laid, while studies show that women are repulsed by male feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 05:23 AM
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Add in proper punctuation and I will. I couldn't get past the first sentence because of how stupidly you composed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 05:22 AM
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A promiscuous man has much more worth than a promiscuous woman and isn't affected by an inability to pair bond as much. I don't see how ghosting a loose woman is a big deal. They're nothing but pieces of meat to me, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 07:31 PM
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Where are you getting contempt and disrespect from in my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 07:30 PM
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I'm never rude to these women. I'm very affable and fun to be around. I just don't feel the need to commit to skanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 07:30 PM
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It's called taking a hint- it's something that women are quite good at doing to unattractive men, so I don't see it as a big deal to ghost them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 07:29 PM
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Respect is earned, not given. Being a loose woman doesn't deserve respect, even if I'm the one she's being loose with at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 07:28 PM
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I don't consider ghosting a hookup to be a big deal or rude. It doesn't matter, anyways, since women are just mad they can't get commitment from high quality men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 06:28 PM
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yeah I'm not reading what you wrote until you actually punctuate properly. Have the respect to not word vomit and make things legible if you're trying to say something
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 04:27 PM
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They're not quality women so I genuinely do not give a fuck about them. You get what you deserve when you want to have flings- I'm not committed to any of them nor do I owe them anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 04:25 PM
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I've had this happen to me after a tinder skank I hooked up with a couple of times left me a hate-filled voicemail when I ghosted her. Women absolutely hate when they're passed over for someone else, that's when the "fuckboy" insult usually comes into play. I see it as a compliment- I know I do better than most other men do, and I won't punish myself for it. Feminist society allows it to happen, and male feminists are the ones responsible for this decline
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 01:23 PM
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there where will be those who are deprived, not necessarily because they are weak, but simply because some other men have that much more power than they. Aka a darwinian free for all. So you mean exactly what the west is with modern swipe culture? Where a ton of men are having sex with a bunch of women, for free, while other men have to foot the bill? Also, not all patriarchies are what you describe. Only polygamous ones are like that, and even the ones that permit polygamy in law seldom see it …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 01:20 PM
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but that presumes that she already knew he wasn't the father which is false If there's even a shadow of a doubt about the paternity of the child, she would bring it up if she were ethical/moral about it. But women seldom do this because they're scared that their bastard won't have a stable future. You're trying very hard to make up excuses for P.O.S. behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 01:18 PM
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There are men who have knowingly married a woman who had kids and went on to have kids with her. And they consent to this arrangement. They're not unwillingly led to believe that they're raising their own kids. You're trying to make false equivalencies here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 12:13 PM
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What aspects of male sexuality need to be kept in check? None are especially destructive to a society in the same way a woman's tendencies are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 11:56 AM
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Must suck to know that everyone in your life are only there for the mask you wear. No, it sucks that the west is pussified and talking about this stuff gets you "canceled" these days. I do have close friends who I talk about my views with, since I can trust them, but even then I'm seldom as blunt as I am here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 06:56 AM
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I've noticed a weird trend- whenever a society gets feminized and men have less power, the tighter their pants get. It's almost like a mating dance for cuckolded men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 09:33 AM
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so men can't access it without simping to women non-Chad men*. An important distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 09:29 AM
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I'm an attractive medical resident who gets a good amount of pussy. I frequent this sub because talking about my views of female sexuality in public or with many of my friends is career suicide or social suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 09:18 AM
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I don't hate women, and I don't think that women hate all men. There are aspects of female sexuality that are definitely reprehensible, which is why patriarchal systems are necessary to correct them. Without them, it becomes a darwinian free for all like we're seeing now in the age of chad fucks, beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 12:24 AM
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Well, what you call "duh" the bluepillers here deny, and they like to pretend that disney fantasy notions about love, respecting marriage, or not having a split among haves/havenots exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 12:21 AM
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Add to that the increase in the rate of STDs, which makes sense within this model. A small majority of guys are sleeping with women and spreading those STDs around to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 12:17 AM
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You think a 14 year old would rather marry a grandpa, or a boy her own age ? Her parents would obviously love the money, but does that matter to a girl just past puberty ? Who cares about what she wants, though? She's not the one paying the bills, and her children won't have the same quality of life that her kids with the older dude would have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 12:16 AM
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Truly one of the most vile conquerors in history. The damage he and his kin did to various civilizations at the time set the world back- especially his grandson's sacking of Baghdad. I think that the mongols highlight an important part about male sexual strategy. We genuinely don't care about how much other men suffer so long as we are the ones who get to sleep with multiple women. No matter what society says, men will always view women as prizes and feelgood meatbags. If a man is able to sleep …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 12:12 AM
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amount of men on here who believe whatever a woman did with someone else, even if she found it painful, they owe to do with them is staggering. That's not really what I'm referring to- way to try and steer the conversation somewhere completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 04:17 AM
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It's mainly men who use it, and it causes problems such as addiction and ED. And please, I don't buy the whole spiel that they're "filmed without consent." Most of them know exactly what they sign up to do when they whore themselves out on camera for money. Pretending to be a victim afterwards to preserve your reputation doesn't make you an actual victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 02:49 AM
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If it were simply a matter of two people walking away from a relationship it wouldn't be so heinous, although I'd still be against how easily people divorce these days. However, divorce usually involves women favorably walking away with money/assets that they don't really deserve a claim to. This unilaterally hurts men more than women, and is bad for the family unit. Kids growing up in a broken home suffer from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 01:55 AM
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You shouldn't need porn in your life, period. It's literally a modern epidemic that hurts men the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 01:54 AM
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Exactly. It's also in women's favor to lie about this given that the paternity of their kid might get called into question.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 01:53 AM
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Her employment or lack of it doesn't matter to me as long as she can fulfill her duties as a wife and mother. I understand RPer's concern for the career woman because I've seen the type. They prioritize their careers over their ability to be a good mom or wife, which is obviously bad for the family.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 01:50 AM
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I'm not strictly talking about cheating. I'm referring to the more rampant case of women divorcing for petty reasons in order to look for new dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 01:49 AM
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Seems like you're projecting and that his comment hurt you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 12:16 AM
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given what some men do with that information What do they do with that information that is so jarring to you that you use a word like "yikes?" At most they'll slut shame or not commit to them. Why should women care about the former if they're so sex positive? Why should they care about the latter if they didn't really love the man? If anything you're just admitting about how dishonest most women tend to be about this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 12:15 AM
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Men and women will both get tired of their partner eventually. The difference is that men are generally less likely to ruin their own life, and the lives of their families to get more pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 12:13 AM
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If they don't listen to you, there's not much else you can do but let time run its course on them. Willful ignorance has its price.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 12:12 AM
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The sex drive for most men is just that powerful. It really is. Men are willing to literally kill for access to what's between a woman's legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 12:11 AM
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A woman who is a virgin upon marriage, a woman who values tenets of domesticity (cooking, rearing kids, etc.), a woman who doesn't act entitled like western women do, and doesn't even think about cheating on her spouse or divorcing him for petty reasons. The other facets are things that you'd just expect of a good person like being supportive of their spouse, pleasing them sexually, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 12:01 AM
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Women can definitely be as amazing as the best man can be. It's just that they should fit within their natural roles in society. This involves not being promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 10:19 PM
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It's not unproven- you're just willfully ignoring the evidence like most bluepillers do. Hell, even the quoted number taken at face value should be jarring to you, but you're happy to make this a matter of semantics rather than talk about the heart of the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 03:44 AM
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It's also likely underrepresenting the actual number and a one year period is sufficient for this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 02:55 AM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-americans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high/?utm_term=.1684b2f57b0c&utm_source=reddit.com#click=https://t.co/0aazxCijYP Mind you, that's given that men will overreport their numbers and it's just indicating the men who are currently sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 06:42 PM
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other reasons than sex and money though. It doesn't matter when those two factors are the principle factors. Everything else is ancillary.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 06:40 PM
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how married men continuously have better sex lives than single men That means nothing, though, when the vast majority of men are sexless. Having an occasional lifeless fuck is better than not fucking at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 12:47 AM
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Given the divorce rates in the west, I don't think it's a minority anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 11:30 PM
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You must have really, really low standards to fuck an obese woman. Overweight I can get, since there are attractive people who have some extra chub on them, but once you get into ham territory, it's depravity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 06:49 PM
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Meaning you have very little actual muscle there, kind of like what most women have because all they do is cardio. You can see it in really scrawny guys as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 06:46 PM
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Getting pity-fucked or duty-fucked in a loveless marriage means literally nothing in this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 06:45 PM
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Reality doesn't care if it's helpful or not. It's just a fact. You are actively judged by being fat within 2-3 seconds of a person laying eyes on you, and no one really cares why you became that way. It's an unfortunate reality that we have to learn to deal with, but ignoring it is a surefire way of making sure that you'll stay miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 11:17 PM
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Marriage doesn't rely solely on sexual attraction. There are various other factors at play including financial stability, social/political reasons, etc. What I said is true of attraction and especially relevant to dating/hookup culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 11:16 PM
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There's rarely an opportune "time" in history to have kids. You can make do with what you have and get by, unless you live during a Depression or are having like 8 kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 11:01 PM
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never choose the hoe. It's sad but we live in a day and age where the ho is not only chosen, but is normalized as somehow a part of a "healthy" marriage or family. No wonder there are so many broken homes in western countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 10:59 PM
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How do we encourage men to do that in ways they haven't already be shown/suggested? Start criminalizing childhood obesity. I'm not even kidding- at the very least parents should be fined for starters if they do this. No kid should have to grow up with shitty dietary habits and poor self esteem because their parents were too fucking lazy to cook them good food and deprive them of junk foods.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 10:55 PM
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so it would affect everyone pretty much equally. Very wrong. Women, even the fat ones, are attracted to the top 20% of men and have an easier time getting laid. This directly translates to the bottom 80% of fat men not getting laid as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 10:54 PM
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I can empathize to some degree because I was raised with a fucking horrible diet by my parents. People vastly underestimate how much childhood dietary habits factor into their success with maintaining a good physique in adulthood. I was the fat kid in elementary school because my parents would feed me shitty foods. It wasn't until high school that I was fortunate to learn about better dietary habits and got into exercise. But all of this aside, the hard truth here is that as an adult you're resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 10:53 PM
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Abs are made in the kitchen. Good luck getting anything but bitch abs if you don't have a solid core routine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 10:50 PM
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Exactly. A man with a good body these days would need a really, really ugly face to not be considered attractive by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 10:49 PM
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This is the common, dumb explanation that does nothing to address the actual problem at hand, which is poor dietary habits during childhood reinforced by a society that encourages an unhealthy lifestyle and offers mostly unhealthy foods.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 10:49 PM
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Not really true in traditional societies. There, women were forced by norms to either grow the fuck up and deal with the fact that they have to love their man or be labeled as a damaged woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 05:31 PM
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For me, or any guy who has standards, the n count needs to be 0. Barring something like a divorce due to abuse, actual rape or being widowed, there's no reason to marry used goods.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 04:53 PM
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Therein lies the dilemma. Humans are not built to live life alone. You cannot conveniently ignore sexuality or a desire for companionship. It's hard-coded into our DNA, and medicine is nowhere near advanced enough to remove this. As long as men are men, we're going to want to sleep with as many attractive women as we can. As long as women are women, they're going to engage in hypergamous behaviors to ensure that they can get their rocks off and provide for their (bastard) children.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 04:51 PM
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Average and below men have always been this miserable. Definitely not true. In patriarchal societies average and below average men have access to non-promiscuous women because sluts are shamed and ugly men are able to act as providers who get quality women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 04:49 PM
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It'll take time but in the past decade alone, men have gained a good platform to speak up about these things. Combine this with the epidemic of broken homes, single moms, and a lack of strong father figures, and people will quickly see how degeneracy breeds degeneracy. Traditional values will always win in the long term. It's just a matter of "how long?"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 04:47 PM
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Girls clothing costs more. Girls have to use pads and tampons, that costs money. Girls groom more (haircuts and styling). Girls do group things more like birthday parties and stuff and that all costs money. You could make similar arguments for what boys usually do. Video game consoles/PCs cost money, getting a haircut from a barber costs money, good clothes cost money, and a boy who is being raised properly will have lots of expenses related to his career, hobbies, and gym-related activities. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 04:45 PM
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you’d be deemed as a hateful incel. Which is why men's rights is incredibly important, as it gives a platform to fight against the bullies who attempt to shame men who do not conform to their warped worldview by shaming them right back. It's why things like slut-shaming were once so effective- there was a platform and general consensus about these beliefs that didn't threaten your livelihood or reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 04:42 PM
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I think this is true only to a certain extent though. There's definitely a point where it goes from subconscious to intentional and malicious. I consider a woman who uses a guy for a free meal to fall into the malicious category.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 04:19 AM
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That's hyperbolic. As long as sexuality is a thing, both sexes will rely on the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 04:17 AM
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It's common sense to everyone except bluepillers, who seem to have a habit of denying truths in the same way that trump supporters do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 04:02 AM
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True, but that doesn't mean a ton of time commitment from Chads as some imply it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 04:01 AM
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Not necessarily. For every mega slut with 3 digit counts, that's more sex going towards the top 20% men from that one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 12:07 AM
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women would benefit by having a separate baby-daddy for each child because she’s literally not putting all of her eggs in one basket. This makes zero sense. Such a system would never work because the different fathers would feel zero need to provide for her, and providing for the kid would become more difficult as a result. Second, all other things are not equal. Children benefit from having two parents in terms of resources, emotional development, and social development. I agree with this whole…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 11:52 PM
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No, men view sluts as meat bags to spit on because they're low-worth women who are just there to satisfy carnal desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 01:46 PM
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the girl's n-count doesn't matter anyway if you never monogamously commit Given that there's always the risk of knocking her up if she's your FWB or plate, it should concern every guy because of the risk that she'll be your potential kid's mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 12:33 PM
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If they weren't raised by single moms and have a shred of self-respect, they won't wife a ho. That's cut and dry, and we only see the west as an exception because it's gynocentric. In most places in the world sluts are spit on for a reason and not considered anything but a quick meat bag for a quick fuck session.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 12:33 PM
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You just need to know if she has at least 1-2 stories to know that she's not going to be a good LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 12:30 PM
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you can have a perfectly stable sexless companionate marriage And what makes you think that most marriages with low/0 n counts in a woman are like this? That's just your own insecurity showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 12:29 PM
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Everyone was that unicorn at some point. This means nothing when women are losing their virginity at extremely young ages, effectively barring them from being candidates for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 12:28 PM
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The mean amount of heterosexual sex women have and the mean amount of heterosexual men have have to be the same. Who cares? This doesn't highlight the ~80/20 disparity. How much sex do you think chads have? Significantly more than the rest of the male population.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 12:27 PM
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crap ton of men shaming women for multiple partners, at the same time as they try to have as many as possible themselves. These aren't mutually exclusive concepts- it's the nature of male sexuality to want to sleep with as many women as possible while not valuing sluts. This might mean making many men into incels to hoard women for themselves. But there aren't really men out there who actually value promiscuous women. Most normal men are disgusted by it on some primal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 12:24 PM
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are usually using deception to do it. nah they're not. Most women are aware that their man with options can get pussy elsewhere. They just bury that in the back of their minds or end up crying and posting some passive aggressive motivational post about relationships on their social media
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 12:35 AM
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they just content themselves with they can get. This is only because western feminism has deluded men into thinking that this is acceptable. When slut shaming makes its grand comeback (and it will, with the evergrowing manosphere), the pool of men who will content themselves with post-wall sluts will grow smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 12:27 AM
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With the amount of pussy going towards the top 10%, I don't think that minor STDs are going to be a big concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 05:52 AM
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Do you realize how ridiculous you sound when you say things like this? Bluepillers are the last ones to have discussions in favor of echo chambers- your comment just proves that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 05:22 AM
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The difference is that men aren't as willing to turn their partner's life upside down over that, or let it get in the way of their family's happiness. The disproportionate divorce initiation by women shows that this is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 05:22 AM
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Cooking is actually a productive and interesting hobby that takes some degree of skill. Reading books is literally the bottom of the barrel unless it's complex literature, but even that's "eh." I just don't think it's something worth mentioning if you're discussing personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 02:56 PM
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Many of these careers will exist for the forseeable future, even as things get more and more automized. I can see your point though, and I think that's what happened in places like Japan or South Korea. When everyone is gunning for the highest positions, it creates a slave-like society where everyone is overworked and unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 01:30 PM
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I didn't say that everyone needs to become a doctor. I said that the type of employment you choose to pursue matters. If you're gunning for bottom of the barrel work, then yeah, it's kind of a no-brainer that you're going to run into issues like low pay, poor job security, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 01:18 PM
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The point I'm driving at is that reading books doesn't confer you a personality. It's not a particularly difficult, engaging, or cultural hobby to pick up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 01:04 PM
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I didn't say everyone can be a doctor. I literally mentioned that it's difficult to get into, long, and usually requires taking on debt. Also, there is most definitely a need for doctors. You're ill-informed to say otherwise. This is especially true of primary care, and the reason for this is because that doesn't pay well even though you go through hell to become one. In fact, there's going to be a shortage of them in a few years- I can't recall offhand what the projection is, but it's especiall…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 01:00 PM
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Fuck no lol. And any girl who puts that much effort into a weird ass goth persona has more red flags than the whole of communism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 12:51 PM
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What is the dating scene even like in Japan? I've always thought it's the future of the western world, with a large portion of incelibate men, but I'm not aware of the existence of chad types in japan. Seems like everyone there is too overworked and miserable to have free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 12:31 PM
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The one single mom I hooked up with was enough for me to realize that they really are as trashy as their profiles suggest. I genuinely feel bad for the generation of bastard children who have to deal with that, but hey, you get what you deserve with feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 12:27 PM
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Depends on what sort of employment you're looking for. I'm in medicine so there's always employment in this field, but the caveat is that it's a very difficult field to get into, not to mention quite long and with debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 12:25 PM
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There's nothing inherently special about reading books. It doesn't require intelligence, nor is it some magical sign of being cultured. It basically amounts to being a hobby, and a fairly useless one at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 12:24 PM
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I'm not looking for quality LTR material on these apps- it's exclusively for hookups or FWB type relationships. To that end, apps like tinder or OKC are really good. I think it's foolish for a guy to seriously look for a LTR on tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 06:05 AM
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I can find a virgin woman, I know where to look and how to suss it out. I want to get married because, as fucked up as laws in the west are, I still think it's the best unit to raise a kid in- with a father/mother figure and patriarchal values.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 11:47 PM
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Those are your words- you're doing that thing a lot of bluepillers and/or sluts do when confronted with an opinion they don't like: making strawmen. I want a virgin woman, that's for sure. Not an unreasonable expectation for a man to have when choosing a woman who will be his wife and mother of his children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 02:43 PM
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it’s just hurtful when men say they will use a woman for sex and throw her away because of her count. It’s upsetting. There's an easy solution to this- women don't have to sleep with these men, but alas, this proves that point that keeps coming up- women will jump hoops for high value men no matter what they say, or how bad their personality is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 02:06 PM
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Any woman who has had pre-marital sex and is a non-virgin, really (this obviously excludes cases of rape, marrying the one partner you had pre-marital sex with, or widows). This is only a controversial statement in the west because literally all the women here are slutting it up from the time they reach menarche.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 02:04 PM
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Same. I don't value them + a lot of them are terrible/selfish/vain people, and they're literally just means to an end. I'd say that I feel sorry for whoever puts a ring on these women, but frankly, that level of ignorance just screams that you were born to be scammed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 02:02 PM
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You're right, which is why I'm not looking in the west for a virgin. That would be a waste of time and probably result in failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 01:58 PM
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Yeah after they're done slutting it up and giving their best years to Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 01:05 PM
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.has no money NOR managemant skills they're not mutually exclusive... a lot of americans have no money because they're complete morons who live in the moment, spending on shit they don't really need and never saving, always eating out, etc. Also, poor career planning will do that. If all you aspire to is a low-end white collar job in your life, then yeah, you're going to hit a pay ceiling very early and be receiving little returns on your work time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 01:04 PM
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but once you hit 21-22 women look for guys with high earning potential. That's too young in the west- the age group you're referring to that is concerned with money is probably the 25+ age group. At 21-22 most women are still sleeping around and having fun, prioritizing Chad over betabux.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 01:01 PM
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You forgot to mention the most important factor- sexual history, which is admittedly the hardest one to ascertain. Marrying a non-virgin woman is directly shooting yourself in the foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 12:59 PM
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I'm calling out your bullshit tactics when I see them- that's definitely contributing to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 12:33 PM
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Oh boy, someone take this guy outside. Projection and gaslighting at its finest. People like you (if males) don't have sex, like ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 12:31 PM
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This makes me think that you think all men use women as "cum buckets." If that's true, then the implication is that women should literally never ever fuck a man. That it is always a trick for him to use her. Your use of strawmen and gaslighting here is something to behold. You can't even argue in good faith- absolutely pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 12:05 PM
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Most men in the US don't do that, which is why they're at the bottom of the totem pole and there's the ~80/20 split. It's kind of laughable that you'd compare something as easy as staying skinny via diet and cardio to something as difficult as putting on and maintaining muscle. The fact that you believe this tells me that you've never put on muscle yourself and are likely just another woman who can't possibly empathize with the high standards that women put on men, physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 06:24 PM
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fact that most humans are average looking and are in relationships with other average looking people means that we're well able to separate our attraction from our desire to establish meaningful relationship No, that's your presumption, but time has shown that hypergamy proves you wrong. If that underlying feeling of doubt or lack of attraction is the gas, then gynocentric divorce laws and culture are the match that makes that all fall apart. And as we've seen from hookup culture, women aren't g…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 06:22 PM
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Because she doesn't want to appear as a hypocrite, even on her e-persona. People lie about things like this all the time, even when there's nothing serious at stake. And yeah, women do have a tendency to lie about these things. We have actual evidence on this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 04:06 AM
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Men already put in significantly more work into their appearance than most women do. Putting on muscle and hitting the physique needed to be considered attractive involves regular strength conditioning and a diet full of protein. Women almost never have to deal with that, and mostly focus on cardio/staying skinny. That doesn't take much actual work, nor does putting on fakeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 03:20 AM
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IDK about catholics but I grew up around Muslims and strongly revere their strict adherence to patriarchal norms. I can tell through my interactions with them that, contrary to the image conjured up by western media, their marriages are generally happy with men and women having traditional roles that are fulfilled well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 02:20 AM
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en not liking sluts had nothing to do with sexual success. Isn't it funny how bluepillers like /u/spacechicken1990 try to shame entire groups of men in this way, yet decry things like slut shaming? The irony is, he/she is probably projecting since they know that all groups of people are disgusted by sluts on some level, even the most "progressive" women who use it as an insult when things get heated with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 02:18 AM
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when they themselves want to be promiscuous? Old/current patriarchal societies do punish men who are promiscuous, but usually to a lesser extent than the woman is punished. There are valid political and cultural reasons for why this is the case- in such societies men have more to offer than women do, but in any case, it would be that female's relative's family's honor that gets smeared in the process, not so much the male's.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 02:15 AM
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Our evolutionary past is faaaaaar behind us. It's really not. We are still very primal in many aspects of life, with sexuality perhaps being one of the least "evolved" parts of humanity. You can't beat our sexual preferences for certain attributes, things like sexual dimorphism, pair bonding, etc. It's built into our brains to an extent that even the most advanced current biological techniques can't pinpoint the exact way to turn these thoughts off. So your analogy of "hunter-gatherer" doesn't r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 02:12 AM
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You guys are addicted to sex, porn and everything you claim to hate in women. Men and women both like sex. No one is debating that. The question is to what extent do we allow it before it degrades the society around it. I don't approve of porn use by men or women for a multitude of reasons, but it's certainly the lesser of two evils when compared to women being sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 02:08 AM
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That'll only happen when men start holding women responsible for their actions and punish deviant behavior like promiscuity. You don't get things like authenticity or honesty when the people you intend on making wives and mothers are busy slutting it up in their youth while being entitled brats the entire time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 10:36 AM
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I'm not talking about no strings attached situations. But I am, because they're a useful reference point when discussing the double standards that women have for the types of top tier men they hook up with versus the men they effectively enslave through LTRs. Literally nobody is saying that, directly or indirectly. If they are, that's abusive language to talk to your partner with and you should leave Nagging is, by its nature, an abusive act. Whether or not it is justified depends on a lot of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 10:09 AM
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I like to wonder about man's primal self. If we were in the position of a king or great ruler who could have an endless supply of women every night for the rest of his life, would we be happy sleeping with all these different women, or would we hit a point of realization that "hey, maybe there's more to life than satisfying this urge?" We're slaves to our bodies to an extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 08:47 AM
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Men will stop getting married and in monogamous relationships. I predict that women will then start catering to what men want again. This is going to be interesting to see, since the trends already show marriage is becoming less common. Many like to pin this on economic factors, but I call bullshit on that- I think men are just waking up to what a raw deal marriage and cohabitation can be. Will this give rise to men, as a whole, having higher standards for women and no longer wifing sluts? Only …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 08:43 AM
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You say that as though it's a bad thing. I've grown to respect most Arabs that I've met over most white people that I've met, at least with respect to their cultural norms when it comes to sexuality. I realize that the term "Arab" encompasses a lot of cultures with varying levels of these beliefs, but as a whole they're certainly better off than the emasculated west is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 08:39 AM
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I don’t give a fuck what you look like or how good you think your sex is. This is a team effort. Again, Chad doesn't care about all of that. He simply sleeps with her, no strings attached, and walks away without any "team effort" or nagging. These are all bullshit excuses that ultimately amount to a woman's way of saying "I don't respect you/am not attracted to you on the same level as I was with more attractive men who I slept with." Granted, any long term relationship will produce nagging to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 08:33 AM
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Nagging has nothing to do with attraction. It’s behavioral. Just a heads up. Bullshit. Chad doesn't deal with nagging.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 06:55 AM
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Because if you read below your response she answers a lot of questions from someone who actually ASKED. Again, why does it matter that she answered when those answers are likely not candid? When there is incentive to lie, and it's easy to cover up, people will do so. Hell, they do it without incentive too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 06:54 AM
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It says a lot about your myopic worldview that you believe that the whole of America approves of sex before marriage. And nah, no one has to be trundled off some esoteric corner of the internet because they say something you don't disagree with. Fact is, people are increasingly waking up to why this is a horrible deal for men, and why premarital sex is directly responsible for the degradation of the family unit. As I said before, you trying to gaslight this behavior as normal is going on deaf ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 11:01 PM
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Asking this question flat-out to a woman will always produce fake answers. This is why it's important to observe her actions, not her words.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 10:56 PM
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It's always funny to see blue-pillers deny obvious truths when you can see it so blatantly. Nice guys have to wait. Chad has access to that pussy within hours of meeting her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 10:54 PM
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People have different expectations for a hookup vs their husband. Nothing”funny” about it. I don’t care if a hookup leaves dirty dishes all over his house- it’s his house, not mine, so not my problem. That's the point. It's a double standard. A woman is giving up one of her most valuable assets (sexual access) in both cases. The only difference is that Chad has that access with no strings attached. I’m telling you, even if a woman married Chad she’d end up divorcing him too if he was lazy and to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 10:52 PM
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I am not the here one claiming such a ridiculous oversimplification as the idea as that single mothers are the single largest cause of crime all by themselves. Your words- complete strawman on your part. My claim is exactly what I said it is- single mother households give rise to deviants. This is supported strongly by statistical evidence. Then if more men would stick around for their kids, it wouldn't be as big of a problem. Given that it's mostly women initiating divorces, and family courts a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 10:49 PM
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Unless your idea is that any woman who isn't a virgin at marriage is a "borderline hooker", in which case it says something about your very odd views of reality. On the contrary, yours is the weird idea. Your gaslighting tactics don't work here. Sex before marriage in women is disgusting and will never be normalized in any sane individual's head.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 10:47 PM
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Proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:35 PM
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You have admitted that you don’t know the US I've done no such thing. These are your words, not mine. You cannot even argue in good faith and are just saying blatant lies at this point. Done talking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:34 PM
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Now what were the reasons for the divorce. 20.1% of divorces are because of an affair. For the majority, it was a spouse's infidelity that was the precipitating factor. Only 11 respondents, eight of whom were men, claimed their own infidelity as a reason. (less than 0.5%) 5.5% of divorces are because of physical abuse. Of the respondents who reported that physical violence was the main reason for marriage breakdown, all but one were women. In six of these cases, physical danger to a child was th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:32 PM
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It's not a comeback, it's just the truth. You come across as petty and petulant with what you said. It reflects a weird mentality that one has to be "attached" to a forum where people discuss things of their own volition. This isn't a job- you need to reevaluate your priorities if you place so much worth in something as stupid as reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:26 PM
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That is not the norm of most marriages. To quote your particularly dumb statement: more often than not, men enter a woman’s life, under that particular guise... Then 8+ years later, they’ve murdered their wife and children because they’ve found a new “squeeze”.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:24 PM
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Yeah, they definitely do- whether you willfully ignore those statistics is your own choice. Most people marry in their twenties to someone they have been dating for a few years. Source + why does it matter? You can have a ton of sexual experiences prior to the average age of marriage in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:23 PM
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I don't need to tell you that information. I'm describing the US and most of the west, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:22 PM
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Considering crime has actually gone down dramatically over the past several decades (since the 90s), you might want to rethink this point. If single mothers are the source of criminal deviants, then how do you account for crime being so much higher in the monogamous 20s-50s, when single motherhood was so much rarer? You're making a logical error here in assuming that a complex problem (crime rates) has a singular factor attached to it (children of single mothers). There's far more to it than tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:21 PM
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Women don’t need to settle for a man they have to grow to love anymore, that’s the point. It’s outdated thinking, and only serves the male imperative It actually serves to provide for a happy marriage, and a happy family unit. All you're advocating for is for women to fuck around before marriage and then marry some hapless beta male for financial security, which statistically ends in divorce + broken homes for the kids. When men start lining up to marry acne-riddled hambeasts, then I’ll concede …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:18 PM
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Why shouldn’t the unattractive man settle for a woman who isnt particularly good looking, but he loves her anyways for her ability to provide a wonderful home, be a good mother, have a genuine personality, and come from a good family? That's your strawman- I never said that a man shouldn't "settle" for such a woman. The funny part is that I wouldn't even call it "settling" in that case- that's a genuinely good deal, especially in this day and age where your average woman is a borderline hooker.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:16 PM
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I have a life outside of the internet, unlike someone like you- I don't have all the time in the world to go on reddit and reply to every single comment sent my way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:15 PM
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Any honest woman would admit their past to their partner, but alas, that's a rare breed. Most will lie about it because self interest> honesty/integrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:14 PM
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The wife is so disgusted by this behavior that she doesn’t feel sexually attracted to her husband anymore because he’s a jerk, not to mention she’s so busy/exhausted from carrying his dead weight that she couldn’t have sex even if she kind of wanted to. And yet for every side of the story we hear that's like this, we hear another side of a husband who busts his ass at work and comes home to an ungrateful wife nagging him to do the dishes while she has been bumming it at home, just looking for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:13 PM
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No one is denying that this type of stuff happens- spouses murder spouses all the time. Implying that this is a norm, as opposed to an abberation, is sheer idiocy, though. I mean, it's kind of ridiculous that I actually have to explain something like this- it's common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:10 PM
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You'd have to be blind or have very small social circles to not realize that this is an increasingly common phenomenon. The stats alone (premarital sex partners, divorce rates, and declining marriage rates) tell this story well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:09 PM
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You're not getting a flat-out answer to that question; also, it doesn't matter here anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 06:19 AM
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Work on your reading skills. What you need to know about me is implied in what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 06:16 AM
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Just fyi OP, this thread got brigaded by the femaledatingstrat sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 06:15 AM
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See, this is why people laugh at blue-pillers. You can't hold a serious conversation or make serious points, so you resort to hyperbole to create an echo chamber. This is why you're on the losing side of this battle, bub.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 06:14 AM
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No gold digger is worried about any man scared to lose $30 on a date. They're not worried about such men because they know that those types of men will weed out shitty women like themselves. It's like picking up a phone scammer's call and immediately calling them a scammer/berating them. They'll just hang up the phone and keep dialing til they find a senile victim to do their act with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 06:12 AM
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It seems like it would be hard to fake. It's not. This deception is even easier the more desperate/sexually inexperienced the guy is. That's usually why you see a bunch of rich simps get played by gold diggers the hardest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 06:10 AM
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All those stats prove is that women typically file first, it doesn’t show fault at all There's no well-established way of proving "fault," so that's a flimsy statistic to go by. We both know that you're just making excuses for women who divorce because they want fresh new dick like they used to get when they were younger. And again, where are you from that makes you such an expert on American women? What experience do you have? It's most western women who are like this, not just american women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 06:08 AM
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Trust me, this is not a thing that happens. Except it is, and I don't trust you. Women are initiating the bulk of divorces for stupid reasons, and every person here- blue pill, black pill, red pill, etc. knows that it's usually so that the woman can look for new alpha dick. You don't have to argue with me- not having a conversation seems to be the hallmark of your type, but you can see how well that worked out for you when a dumbass like Trump got elected. Ignoring the people who you disagree wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:43 AM
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Because it's a big commitment to make and has serious health repercussions. Your endogenous production of testosterone decreases as a result, your balls shrink, etc. Also, don't trust big pharma to be honest about shit like this- the FDA is in league with them to make them money even if it's at the cost of your health. You don't know the long term effects of these sorts of treatments, and the fact that you're taking a lifelong commitment to inject yourself with this stuff is no small deal. You s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:41 AM
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Even though I agree with the point you're trying to say (namely that the shit in our food and drinking water is chiefly responsible for the decline in testosterone levels), the way you're submitting evidence for your claim is flat out stupid. Don't link to blogs or conspiracy nuts- link to scientific articles that directly state what you're asserting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:39 AM
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No, it's literally just about wanting the best dick while maximizing social/financial resources when possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:36 AM
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A cracked out mom on pills? Yes No, I'm talking about women who divorce for petty reasons and end up in a situation where their kids either flat out have no father figure in their lives, or have their mother's string of hookups/short-lived boyfriends as "fathers." Jesus Christ, where are you from? I swear to god, the pill universe needs to sequester people from non-Western countries. This entire theory doesn’t apply to non-Western cultures I mean, it's common sense that most people on reddit tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:35 AM
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Depends on the society they're from. In many religious and conservative societies this is the case- if there's no hymen attached it's a red flag (not a hard/fast rule from a biological perspective, I know) so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:33 AM
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Because there are actually women out there who could have divorced for legitimate reasons (e.g. physically abusive ex), although I'm convinced that such cases are the minority, and that you'd best be off not looking at divorcees altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:31 AM
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Good luck with that if you're trying to find a keeper from a sexually conservative society- they take that shit with them to the graves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:29 AM
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Lol that's what they all say bro. Hint: it's total bullshit and they're hooking up on the downlow.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:27 AM
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It’s much healthier than a mom who resents dad so much that she has to pop “mother’s little helper” regularly Really? Creating single mother households, where kids are statistically shown to become criminal deviants is healthier than what you described? I mean, your argument is that it’s happening now after women enjoy life, instead of before they have a chance. That’s not really a compelling argument You conveniently ignore what happens after they enjoy life, though. Life isn't a joyride. Our c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:26 AM
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Second of all, women don't want marriage, they want a wedding. They want to be a princess in the center of attention. Concise and really well said. This is exactly why a woman who wants a lavish wedding raises a red alert in my mind for a horrible, vain person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:23 AM
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Wasn't there a study that showed a strong correlation between the expense of a wedding and the rate of divorce? Frankly, if a guy allows for an expensive wedding on his dime, it shows a blue pill type of mentality. If a woman wants an expensive, lavish wedding, that raises more red flags than the whole of communism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:22 AM
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Well apart from the alpha deep dicking, what does any of that have to do with being married? "Well apart from the literal single biggest factor, what does that have to do with being married?"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:21 AM
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You could say literally the same exact thing of most blue-pillers. Maybe people in the "manosphere" say these things because it's a resounding truth that men face and are cognizant of- have you ever thought of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:19 AM
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They want to get married to the right person and they actually have a choice now. Barring extreme cases, women did often have a choice. The difference, now, is that they're just hooking up with attractive men in their youth, instead of marrying one mediocre looking guy for the sake of getting maried. Your platitudes don't mean much when you look at the cold, hard reality of this subject. It all boils down to lust-fulfillment, as opposed to disney fantasies about "finding the right one."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:19 AM
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Why is that a problem? Because that's not how you create a healthy family unit. Wouldn’t everyone rather be single than commit their life to someone who is lukewarm, at best, about them? That's exactly what happens these days, though. You have women who sleep around in their youth settling for guys they're not really attracted to, with impaired pair bonding ability, where they invariably end up unhappy and divorce. This creates broken homes which creates fucked up kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:16 AM
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don’t you want your wife to completely desire you as her husband? It's not necessary for both husband/wife to be happy. The problem is that this falls into the line of "instant gratification" type of thinking. There is such a thing as developing love for a person you weren't initially starstruck with- this was the case in the patriarchal past (and present for many non-western nations) where a guy who wasn't particularly great looking could have an attractive wife who grew to love him for the thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:15 AM
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Then 8+ years later, they’ve murdered their wife and children because they’ve found a new “squeeze”. You'd have to be a total moron to think that this is the norm in the world, as opposed to being the exception. There are crazy men and women like this in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:10 AM
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Some women have high standards Most women have higher standards for men than most men have higher standards for women. This has been proven time and time again by data we have from sites like OKC. The advent of hookup apps have polarized this even more because those few most attractive men are the ones who women are sleeping with. I don't really care about what you consider arbitrary when the statistics show that the reality is skewed differently for men and women. Generalizations mean literally…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 04:11 AM
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What does that have to do with anything I said? It has to do with what you said because the modern dating market is in women's favor, and they're the ones often promulgating harsh dating standards for men while trying to push men to have low standards for women. They're trying to have their cake an eat it, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 05:48 AM
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If a guy is dumb enough to marry a woman who doesn't pay half the mortgage that's on him. Again with the victim blaming. How is the man dumb here? The system is what is stupid. A woman shouldn't steal half of a man's hard work just because she happened to do menial work at home during the period of marriage. He sure as shit can't blame the judge. Of course he can, because most of them are biased in favor of women. They're pieces of garbage just like many police officers are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 11:40 PM
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They're clearly not gender neutral if women are winning most of the time. There's no "game" to be played. A man shouldn't have to alter his earnings or marry a woman who makes more than him just to avoid getting screwed in the courts. The only irony is how blind blue pillers are to their own bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 09:49 PM
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Why are you SO sure all women are only in for money? Divorce rates. Choosing a beta male over Chad once a woman hits the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 09:36 PM
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Especially if the 75k guy isn't a chad
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 09:35 PM
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Anyway, a man who doesnt clean up after himself is still a no-go for me. Except for Chad, who can fuck like a rabbit, leave a huge mess, and walk away without touching a broom.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 09:33 PM
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If a wife quits her job for no good reason (e.g. she got accepted to medical school) That's like literally one of the few good reasons for your wife to quit her job. Med school is a full time commitment. Also, in court you could argue that you supported her during this time and you'd likely walk away the winner in the case of a divorce. I know this because the number of gold diggers you encounter as a medical student are phenomenally high. It's why I don't even mention my profession on my tinder…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 09:32 PM
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If a guy gets taken to the cleaners its because he didn't play the game in an intelligent way. Way to victim blame and be as disingenuous as possible. Family court laws are absolutely not gender neutral. They are gynocentric.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 09:30 PM
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No the best bet is not to marry. For people who want to start families, this is the conundrum. You either choose the risky path of marriage or live as a bachelor for the rest of your days.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 09:30 PM
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Some of us genuinely do not care about height. Most women do. Same deal with hairline, jaw structure, and race (preference for white guys).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:29 PM
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Yeah cool you're the most progressive person on the planet apparently. Doesn't mean the rest of the world gives two shits about what you're saying, since they follow these rules anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:28 PM
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a woman with options to commit to him. Most women these days with options are extremely promiscuous and not really virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:25 PM
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What if he was one of her casual sex options? It shouldn't really matter. Having a limited sexual past (ideally a virgin) is a core tenet of what makes a woman attractive with respect to being a LTR candidate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 06:17 PM
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A general tendency will by definition apply to a majority of a group, so yes, it does describe women's tendencies accurately no matter the culture, age, group, etc. I don't know what you're claiming it's ignorant of, but please feel free to clue me in on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 06:16 PM
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Treat her like you’d treat a woman you already respect. Chad doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 02:49 AM
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Cool, you're a unicorn- no one cares. What the manosphere says is true of most western women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 02:45 AM
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Using an exception to the rule as a basis for calling TRP "harmful" is dishonest on your part. I think that what's really harmful towards the "other gender" is women having casual sex with multiple men before dishonestly settling down with a beta male.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 02:44 AM
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Projecting your own insecurities onto others won't help you get laid, nor will whiteknighting women online.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 02:36 AM
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It depends, but generally speaking it is a huge boost in terms of making women look a lot better than they would without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 02:36 AM
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Women do care about sex. It's just that they can get it much more easily than men can.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 07:46 PM
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His comment wasn't really directed at you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 07:44 PM
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A woman investing little to nothing in a conversation or being extremely boring doesn't make her awkward, yet she will still get rewarded with sex because dick<<<<pussy. I don't really care about the experience of autistic or awkward women because they're largely the minority and they don't suffer for it as much as men in equivalent positions do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 07:42 PM
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It's very funny that you think that they are. Also funny that you conflate "poor conversational skills" with being awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 09:50 AM
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Not getting laid by a person who was never that interested in you might be frustrating, but it's not exactly a punishment. These are semantics though and aside the point. The point is that men are punished for having poor conversational skills while women aren't. That's the entire point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 01:52 AM
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No, but it is punished in men- not so much in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 10:49 PM
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I agree with that, but your explanation was pretty silly and just fits a bp narrative with no real backing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 10:46 PM
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Projecting your own lack of sexual success onto others to push a shitty feminist worldview is about what I'd expected of a walking wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 10:44 PM
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I'm making a facile generalization as you did with regards to disliking people who don't like deceptive practices to make oneself appear more attractive than they really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 07:19 PM
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But people who get hyper into hating on makeup are weird. There’s something else going on there. "But women who get hyper into hating men who aren't 6'+ Chads are weird. There's something else going on there."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 07:00 PM
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And I'm saying that you have double standards here. I could say a similar thing about women being misandrists except for Chad only.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 06:15 PM
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Not because having sex with more people means you’d make a terrible spouse... but because the types of women who have had sex with 16 people without securing a commitment are probably not emotionally intelligent enough for a committed relationship. It's weird how bluepillers will cry "correlation=/=causation" when it suits them, but then come up with their own spin on things like this. Provide a source for this causal claim, or correct it by saying "I think that"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 06:07 PM
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So you wouldn't call those women misandrists, but you're willing to call people who dislike makeup "misogynists." Are you really that blind to your double standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 06:05 PM
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I posed this question to someone else, so I'll pose it to you as well: Let's say that in the future there's a technology that allows men to alter the image of their face. Suddenly a bald guy can show up with a head full of hair, a chiseled jaw, and alter his bone structure so he looks conventionally attractive. Is this deceptive?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 05:52 PM
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I have a hypothetical question for you. Let's say that in the future there's a technology that allows men to alter the image of their face. Suddenly a bald guy can show up with a head full of hair, a chiseled jaw, and alter his bone structure so he looks conventionally attractive. Would you call women who are put off with men who use this tech misandrists? Because that's tantamount to what you're saying here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 05:49 PM
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I find it to be deceptive. If I'm planning on hooking up with or marrying a woman, I want to see what they actually look like. Makeup can hide some very unattractive features in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 05:47 PM
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Being a wallet for a woman isn't what I'm referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 03:00 PM
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There's nothing selfless about getting pregnant, so acting like your some kind of hero by procreating is laughable. Who brought up selfishness/selflessness here? But on that subject- having kids can be argued both ways. Not having kids is mostly a selfish decision (I want a better quality of life vs. not wanting to contribute to overpopulation). Not to mention, no matter how good your parenting is, there's always a chance your kid will end being a murderer later in life. Or a rapist or a pedophi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 08:53 PM
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Exactly. OP is being very dishonest with his wording. It's like a billionaire saying that making money is easy. Just to be clear, to be attractive as a guy you need to eat shitloads of protein on a regular basis (something that most women have no experience with), do intense strength exercises consistently, be tall (no control over that), have a nice head of hair (no control over that), have a good face/jawline (no control over that), and be well groomed. You know what most women these days need…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 06:56 PM
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I personally never understood this myself- I actually think that tall women are attractive. The guys who have an issue with this probably feel that it emasculates them but I say fuck anyone who judges you that way- your kids with her will be taller and more attractive than you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 06:53 PM
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Because male and female sexuality are inherently different. Our pair bonding mechanisms are different, likely down to a biochemical level (e.g. role of oxytocin vs. vasopressin in male/female mammalian models). I'm not saying that men with high n-counts are better or equivalent to men with low n counts, but the evidence we have suggests that it is way more damning for women to have high n counts than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 06:51 PM
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There’s a whole bunch of other shit that goes into sexual attraction. And yet, again, you're beating around the bush because physical attraction is the most powerful and relevant factor here. Time and time again has showed us the number of thugs, degenerates, wife beaters, etc. with horrible personalities who get laid with multiple women anyways because they're physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 06:49 PM
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I'm not going to raise my kids to be degenerates, so yes, they will definitely take care of me in my old age. The irony is that childfree people like you are the most selfish of them all. Just don't cry when you're going to be inevitably abused and/or never visited by anyone in a nursing home. You reap what you sow.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 06:47 PM
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So none of those people in nursing homes have kids, eh? Logically having kids leads to two outcomes- either they take care of you in your old age or they don't. Not having kids only leads to a lack of care in old age. As to what you're talking about, I think it's a cultural thing, especially in western nations. This is largely a result of "muh independence" when someone turns 18, and parents not instilling a cultural sense of respect in their kids. You reap what you sow, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 06:45 PM
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Why does she need a man for happiness? Because sexuality is part of the human condition. But please, stop skirting around and answer the question that I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 06:41 PM
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Would you say the same thing to women who are victims of acid attacks? It's an extreme example, but the principle is the same. Both groups would be unattractive. So tell me, would you tell a horrendously disfigured woman to "take responsibility for her own happiness" in spite of the hard truth that she's probably not attractive to a single man on the planet?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 10:35 AM
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You're intentionally being blunt, and beating around the bush like most BPers do to avoid coming to the very obvious, and very blatant conclusion that physical attraction is non-negotiable. You can have all the money in the world and that won't change the fact that you're not as attractive, nor will you ever be as attractive, as that 6'3 Chad who is fucking multiple women based solely on his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 10:34 AM
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I haven't met one kid raised by a single mother who turned out normally in my life. They all end up being fucked up degenerates in one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 10:32 AM
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No amount of sex workers or robots will fix the fact That's not true at all. Both of these things would give these men what they crave- sex. At bare minimum it would be the ultimate distraction from that fact. For many of them I imagine it'd be enough to take away their nihilistic views on life and transform it into something more positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 10:31 AM
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a body and brain unmarred by the stress of raising children Lol, until you reach old age and get shit into a nursing home where you'll likely be abused by its staff with no one to give a shit about you. You reap what you (don't) sow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 10:27 AM
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Coming from the guy trying to dismiss studies that don't agree with his worldview, that's rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 09:01 PM
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Also I'm not bp Doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 08:48 PM
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Who even cares what other people want you to look like? Literally everyone cares. It's the reason behind beauty standards for men and women. It's ingrained in our biology to attract others and to fit into social norms. Like, how can you even ask such a weird question?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 06:04 AM
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Are you guys going to stop fucking spamming the stats? It's funny how blue pillers are the ones whose first reaction to obvious truths about female sexuality is "SOURCE!?!?!?" Yet when it's presented for you to debate over, you suddenly cry foul.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 05:56 AM
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people don’t use incel as an insult because they’re virgins, they use it as an insult because incels are notoriously misogynistic and hateful Lol totally incorrect. It's definitely used as an affront to someone's manhood, implying that they're too ugly or offputting to get pussy. It's literally just the latest buzzword for "virgin."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 05:53 AM
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“She’s just using you for status and money” Yeah, so what? He’s getting sex with a hot, younger woman. If she brings all the other desired behavior of an LTR I don’t see a problem with giving her an LTR. The big problem here is that everything about this setup is fake. It's unhealthy in the long term for both individuals, and moreover, it reflects degeneracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 05:51 AM
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I don't follow your point here. To me, this shows that separating environmental factors from behavioral motivations is borderline impossible. My point is that there are "natural" tendencies that women gravitate towards in the absence of an environment that forces them act unnaturally. These natural tendencies include, most notably, hypergamy and harsh sexual selection. the patriarchal society (which, let's not kid ourselves, is still the case today) Do you honestly believe that this is the case …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 05:48 AM
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Thanks for your input. I agree, and I think that looking out for red flags is paramount.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 10:26 PM
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wholesome and sane person is different from a person who is not those things, because I had dated both kinds by then. I'm not trying to cast doubts or come across as a pessimist, but you should know that there are women out there who are incredibly good at lying about this sort of stuff. In my personal experience, women who come from cultures/upbringings where religion is part of it tend to take their sexual histories to the grave.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 10:17 PM
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fine with me having a side bitch here and there yeah that's not normal, and I'm willing to bet ducks to dollars that she lied to you about her n-count and sleeps around on the side as well. You're getting played
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 10:15 PM
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How did you find each other? How do you know both of you are virgins and not lying about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 09:28 PM
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This is why you don't settle for anything less than a virgin in marriage, if you're a guy. Hookups can be arranged in most cases as long as you're fit. Throwing away half of your life savings, time, investment in kids, and becoming an indentured servant is a formula for unhappiness. The more men who take up this attitude (and be sure of it- that mass is growing), the less sway women hold with the pussy cartel.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 09:28 PM
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I mean, there's more to girls than just n-count. But it is important. Sure, but n-count is the single most important factor when determing if a LTR is worth it with a woman. Anything other than a virgin is less than ideal. If you're OK with that, and risking your entire life's hard work/assets in the case of divorce rape, then that's your prerogative.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 09:25 PM
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And if you don't learn to spot those outliers, you're missing out. I'm not talking about studies. I'm talking about real life. These aren't mutually exclusive things. Social science studies "real life." I agree that we should trust studies, but they may not always be exhaustive in their scope. To address your point on women with active sex lives in 200AD vs. 2020AD: some women would be the same across the two time periods, sure, but the resources we have now make our circumstances much different…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 09:23 PM
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Only concern yourself with the people that are applicable Yeah? And how do you do that? Only a small portion of women these days are virgins in the west. How do you even go about finding that they're virgins? Most will lie about it, not to mention it's often an offensive subject to bring up for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:27 PM
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the type of person who hates the idea of someone “exploring their options” is the type of person who doesn’t have any. This is the blue pill fallacy which can easily be proven false by men who are sexually successful yet don't want to sell their commitment cheaply. On the contrary, what I've found to be true is that the types of men who are OK with women exploring their options are the type of men who've had few to no options, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:26 PM
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No one will give an honest answer because they're insecure to say that there is nothing better than a virgin woman. This insecurity probably stems from the fact that virgins in the west are so rare these days thanks to too much sexual freedom and hookups being common.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:21 PM
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but she’s always told me. And she probably lied about it, like most women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:16 PM
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And, in that process, are losing out on their ability to accept new ideas This is such a weird and inaccurate generalization. Statistics about human sexuality are the sort of things that won't magically change over time. If most men and women behave in a certain way, that's the entire point of using statistical analyses- to predict and measure behavior reliably. A slut in 200 BC won't magically be much different than a slut in 2020 AD when you boil it down to behavioral patterns and things like …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:13 PM
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I'll take those studies and their results over the words and constant unicorn situations that women present. Also, no one is asserting that everyone will fit into this paradigm. Individuals will always display some degree of variation, but there is a lot to be said about statistical norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 04:42 PM
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That's not really true, but it's not particularly important either. Sexual primacy is what men value most in women when they're young and beautiful, not the mere act of settling down with a woman and having kids with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 04:40 PM
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target dumb women though. Yeah right, as though a woman's intellect plays a major role here. I've known accomplished, intelligent women who become just as slutty as tinder fuckbunnies when it's the right guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 04:03 AM
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. The only people who don't really respect promiscuous men are women, False. They say that they don't respect them but end up fucking them anyways. Actions>>>words
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 04:02 AM
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Except most women who hookup when on the CC do want the town whore. It's those same few guys who are hooking up with most other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 04:00 AM
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You're projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 03:58 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 03:57 AM
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Cause and effect relationships can still exist even in the presence of indirectly related variables, so the whole causation spiel isn't the best counter argument to use.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 03:55 AM
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Treating people as individuals would not be smart, especially as it relates to sexuality. Treating a high n woman as an “individual” will get you cheated on and cucked This. It's almost like OP wants to pretend as though statistics and behavioral tendencies are not a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 03:54 AM
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It doesn’t explain the paternal uncertainty aspect and the possibility of paternity fraud Paternal uncertainty stems from easy sex for women. A free impregnation is as easy as walking into a bar and letting dozens of men approach you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 05:23 AM
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They're handing out free "Passport", so everyone is hopping countries. It's been globalised. This is the future. Nah, there's a limit. There are parts of the world where this type of deviant shit will not be normalized. Thankfully a lot of Muslim countries don't allow their women to be as degenerate as those of the west, and will punish those who do become skanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 03:40 AM
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Stay safe man. Unless you live in a city with very low cases it may not be worth it to go to a gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 01:54 AM
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Reading through that, I got . The below chart taken from App Ape shows that both OkCupid and Tinder have higher unequal distribution of gender ratio than that of Hinge. I have no idea what App Ape is, nor how it pulls this data. So I ask again, where is the actual source on these stats you're quoting? You're just leading me from one rabbit hole to another without actual proof of what you've said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 01:53 AM
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That's not really an excuse. I've been doing bodyweight exercises at home to keep up with my exercise. You just have to be motivated enough, and a little clever, to find exercises that work for you. You don't even need any equipment except maybe a band to make it work. Although I've mostly used equipment in gyms to train in the past, it's nice to do bodyweight stuff for a change. Start simple, with something like, say, 30-50 burpees a day and work your way up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 12:31 AM
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You cannot access that source, and a simple google search doesn't show it anywhere. Feel free to link the study directly for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 12:28 AM
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But women don't want sex. They want commitment. Women do want sex, just not from unattractive men. Commitment is only necessary to take care of the children or Chad's bastard spawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 10:30 PM
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That site is shitty and doesn't show its sources, so there's no way to validate that information or how such surveys were conducted.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 10:21 PM
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But I am discussing them because they're relevant here. Funny how you feminists turn a blind eye to this because of muh seckshooal empowerment for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 04:32 PM
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Got a source on that? I'd love to see how they differentiate bots here from people, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 04:28 PM
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Men place unreasonable expectations on women as well. No, not on average they don't. Most of the studies on this subject show that women are way more picky about men than the other way around. Also, based on what I've seen it's other women who enforce the stereotypes you refer to, not really men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 04:27 PM
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You didn't become a curmudgeon. You're just witnessing a decline as boys who grew up with no father in their lives become sexually desperate simps/male feminists, and women begin to thrive in a feminized society that results. Coupled with social media it has made every skank a queen with her own army of whiteknights.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 04:01 AM
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Gamers are also not an especially appealing group of men. How many women actively want gamers? It's sad how true this is. I've enjoyed playing games since I was a kid, but I consider myself the exception to the rule in terms of having a life, putting effort into my physical appearance, and not being a neckbeard. I think that a lot of modern games, especially those with competitive multiplayer aspects, are skinner boxes and designed to be very addictive- this exacerbates their already unproductiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 03:47 AM
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I have no problem with Belle Delphine per se, I just believe that in a world without pathetic af men she would of earned her money on her knees instead of doing these shitty videos. That's exactly what women like her end up doing in patriarchal societies where your average man isn't a simp bending over backwards to make excuses for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 03:43 AM
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losers who are satisfied with virtual masturbation over real sex. They're never satisfied. They're left feeling horny day after day because their dopamine/serotonin/oxytocin receptors are downregulated. They have 0 self control and lead lives full of depression, failure, and become male feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 03:42 AM
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But where there is a problem, there is money to be made. "In a world full of drug addicts, there is a problem. But where there is a problem, there is money to be made." Do you fundamentally see what's wrong applying this broadly? It skips over the ethics of making money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 03:38 AM
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She is a persona. She is a person. Feminists certainly don't reduce other famous people to "personas" when criticizing them if they go against the grain of their own thoughts, so why is she any different? She's a person who takes advantage of sexually desperate loser simps in the same way a drug dealer takes advantage of drug addicts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 03:37 AM
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Best you can do is change your mindset and stop thinking about your height as something that's holding you back. Why fixate on something you cant change? I don't disagree with you, but this is neither here nor there. The discussion is about unreasonable expectations that women place upon men when dating, and how this will affect a posterity. Most women have direct male relatives but don't seem to care about what they're contributing towards, even if it harms the male family members that it hurts…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 03:19 AM
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Maybe you misunderstood what I was asking. How do you feel knowing that he (and your potential sons, nephews, etc) will get shit on by a dating market that treats short men poorly? Most women enforce these harsh, unrealistic requirements yet never care about what it does to men who draw the short straw genetically.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 02:02 AM
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This is an online dating thing. In real life, as long as the dude is taller than the girl, she won’t care too much. This is misleading because (a) online dating is everywhere, and better dick is a swipe away, so you can't discount it as distinct from "real dating" when it's ubiquitous (b) women always care about a guy's height even if they don't admit it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 01:57 AM
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Having lots of sex with one woman (your spouse) in a patriarchal country isn't really exceptional though. And I bet that given the choice free of consequences those same women would jump on a taller guy's dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 01:55 AM
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How do you feel about your brother getting shit on because of unreasonable modern dating standards? How do you feel knowing that this may happen to your sons in the future?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 01:53 AM
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Having a shorter then average female partner almost always ensures that your sons will be shorter then average as well I get what you're saying but this is easily explained by the fact that men can impregnate multiple women and thus can be less discerning than women, who are pregnant for 9 months as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 01:52 AM
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Men work out, work hard, make money, eat lots of protein, and get groomed to get laid with trash skanks that they find attractive. They don't sell their commitment to them, though. This constitutes a small fraction of men while the rest are loser beta males who sell that commitment cheaply. So no, it's not really the same both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 07:41 PM
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The fact that this even has to be posted is very indicative of the userbase You're missing the point entirely. Feminists like to decry being sexualized, but it's like those companies that add a tiny little asterisk and fine print. They just don't want to be sexualized by ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 07:31 PM
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No, I say this because I've literally worked in research and with the professors who publish studies on these subjects. They won't approve of your studies if they don't agree with its narrative. For the hard sciences this isn't really any issue, but for the soft sciences like social sciences or sociology, it's a very touchy subject that requires strict approval. It shows your naivete and lack of knowledge/experience in this realm when you say that there's no bias going on with respect to what's …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 08:01 AM
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Leftist academia won't touch that with a six foot pole, but the data is out there. There is strong evidence that this is the case, and as such, nothing you say on this subject really matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 07:54 AM
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Women have been sluts and have cheated since the beginning of time, the only thing that has changed is the law, social acceptance, and that women also work now. This rarely ever matters, and it's dishonest to pretend that it does. Most of the time men end up paying child support and/or alimony after a divorce. The laws on that, alone, are incredibly sexist. Women have been able to leave marriages in various cultures for any number of reasons. It's occurs more when sluts are empowered, though, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 04:08 AM
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Western academia is very, very, left-oriented. You're trying to downplay this by calling it a "conspiracy" like this isn't some overt truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 04:04 AM
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What's wrong with that statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 01:26 AM
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But as far as I can tell, women are only inclined to lie about or hide that info because so many guys can get judgmental or freaked out by higher numbers, or in some cases a woman who has higher numbers than him. You say this as though it's a pejorative when there's a legitimate reason why men want to know this. It's no different than a criminal lying to police officer about a crime they committed, because they know there will be negative consequences for their actions. If there was a study that…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 01:24 AM
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Leftist academia doesn't want to interrogate this subject further and establish a causal link because it would be career suicide for anyone who says this, but this is absolutely the determining factor. Coupled with the fact that divorce for women is literally a winning lottery number, it makes sense that this is a causal relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 01:22 AM
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So you think being a slut has more baring on failing marriages then the socioeconomic repercussions of marriages failing becoming non existent for women? Definitely. Marriages fail because women can leave without anything happening to them now, that’s literally the only difference from then. Actually, they fail because sluts can literally leave a marriage, ripping off half a guy's assets, all the while looking for new better dick. They fail because sluts cannot pair bond and make up petty reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 01:20 AM
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I never said that; I think that the relative threshhold would be higher for men for that to be the case, if at all, but I haven't read up on that enough. Biologically, this is consistent, anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 11:18 PM
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A high N count. Definitely way worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 11:16 PM
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Fewer than 10% of women have slept with 20+ men There's literally no way to confirm this unless you've been spying on a girl her entire life. Women lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 11:16 PM
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Nice writeup, hall of fame material.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 11:15 PM
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"If you think one of your soldiers is a spy, just shoot them all in the head. That levelof distrust is not gonna get any better."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 11:12 PM
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Pretend you're into listening about her wild adventures. If you're looking to marry a woman from a culture/religion where sex is a major taboo, this advice doesn't really work. The mere mentioning of it may work against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 11:11 PM
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Irrational distrust? This is a perfect example of why tbp is such a joke. There's nothing irrational about wanting to know the number of men your potential partner has slept with. It's a statistic that has a profound effect on your relationship, and given that half your shit is on the line, it's nice to have some assurance on this subject. The fact that women have been proven to lie about their n-count necessitates manipulative strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 11:09 PM
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The way men and women pair bond is different. The ease of being able to mate with multiple people of the opposite sex is different. The aftereffects on marital stability are different. Ignoring these things and trying to draw false equivalencies is dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 11:04 PM
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Divorce rate is based on women not having to stay anymore cause of financial success Capitalism does have a role here, but it's a minor one in the grand scheme here. Impaired pair bonding and being an undependable slut who doesn't stay with one partner are personal determinants that are far more salient to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 11:02 PM
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It's a bit more complicated than that, but yes, for women that is absolutely the simplest and most accurate way to put it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 10:59 PM
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I love how people like you ask for stats and studies on subjects that leftist academia won't touch with a 10 foot pole. The closest we have at the moment is (a) common sense about sluts and (b) higher rates of divorce among women with high n-counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 10:57 PM
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Legit go to hell, having more partners does NOT MAKE YOU MORE LIKELY TO CHEAT FFS. The stats on divorce rates increasing with n count suggest that this isn't the case. Wanting to ride new dick and not settling for one man seem to be way more prevalent in women with high n-counts at the time of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 10:55 PM
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She’s so inexperienced and immature what are you just gonna coddle her along the whole time? Is that the kind of relationship you really want? Yes and yes. I don't know why you find this mindblowing. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a virgin woman saving her life's sexual experiences just for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 10:52 PM
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Why does that matter? You're trying to equate male and female sexuality which doesn't really work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 10:51 PM
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A woman who’s had 10 sexual partners over 13 years is hardly a whore. Hard disagree, and the facts on divorce rates based on n-count, and common sense, would agree with my stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 10:50 PM
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Are you seriously insinuating that 10 partners isn't a huge number of cocks for a woman to have ridden? Yeah, then the new guys aren't muddying any waters. If anything, people like you are trying to distort the very clear image of the CC.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 02:22 AM
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He's probably referring to the very real data that shows an increase in divorce rates the higher a woman's n count is. Aside from the obvious fact that a woman who gives her body away during her most beautiful years to Chad is not going to be a dependable spouse, it's also a matter of having standards. No man should have to deal with a woman with so much baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 02:20 AM
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No, he's just smart and values himself as non-numales ought to. Men shouldn't sell their commitment cheaply to sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 02:18 AM
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Of course it is. Anything more than a virgin is less than ideal, if not from the obvious divorce rates, then from the fact that they have a shit ton of baggage. Notable exceptions are widows and divorcees who divorced for legitimate reasons (e.g. scumbag husband).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 02:18 AM
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That's the idea anyway. Sometimes, it is in fact the case. Pretty much always the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 02:15 AM
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And just because I'm fucking someone doesn't mean I should want to date them. Therein lies the hypocrisy of modern sluttery. You're just giving in to your carnal desires while wanting to double dip your used goods into the desperate beta male pool. I think you know the conversation that needs to be had, but don't want to suffer the inevitable "no" because Chad has options. You're just biding your time to take advantage of some supplicating beta who won't ask about your past. That's beyond cruel …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 02:14 AM
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You can/tend to be lonely even with casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 02:11 AM
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Not if you keep her close to your family and under vigilance. Tight knit families are key here. If you're moving out on your own to some big city and living the modern Western life, then you're absolutely right- skittery will spread like the disease it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 02:10 AM
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The government's studies also show that single moms are trash who raise degenerates that commit crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 02:09 AM
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Nah, I'm good with finding a wife from a conservative country who wasn't raised to be a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 07:47 PM
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Without birth control, both capitalism and technological advancements would not have been enough. Given that single moms are literally welfare sinkholes, you may be right. Without BC it creates a quandary for feminists- do you punish women pushing out Chad's bastards, or do you keep throwing money at the problem til people start rebelling at how their taxes are getting eaten by debauchery?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 07:44 PM
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if women are fucking more than one person, who cares? Everyone cares. It's degeneracy, creates women who can't pair bond, creates doubt about paternity, and results in a Darwinian situation where alphas breed with the majority of women and sexless betas start waging wars because they have nothing in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 07:39 PM
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Fair is not possible. Maybe not, but we can amend that with social institutions that try to reconcicle differences in male/female sexuality. Patriarchy did just that, successfully, for millennia. The effects of feminism are being felt profoundly in mere decades since sex positivity in women became a thing, and patriarchal norms degraded in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 07:34 PM
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Sounds like projection on your end.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 07:32 PM
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Because there is more to a woman than a wet hole(s) Oh please. I'm sure people like you, by that logic, would be happy marrying acid-attack victims as long as they were good people. Most of the appeal for women comes from their physical appearance and ability to sexually pleasure a man. To say any differently would be incredibly dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 07:32 PM
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Because I don't know how to move the relationship to the next level. I find that very hard to believe. On the one hand you're saying that you're looking for a guy willing to commit- you want to have him in your back pocket. On the other, you're saying that it's a "transition" with your FWB that's making this process hard. That begs the question- is it really the transition, or is it just the fact that you don't see qualities in him that you think would make him a good long term partner? All I ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 07:30 PM
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I envy you then. It gets genuinely taxing on the body fucking multiple women in a short span of time. You're basically frying your testosterone/dopamine/oxytocin receptors.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 02:56 PM
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Every guy has a different limit, but all I can say is that it becomes tiring constantly busting your nut. There's a reason why some fighters like Mike Tyson abstained from sex/masturbating for long periods of time before a major fight. It can be very draining.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 02:48 AM
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I agree with everything that you've said; there's a point where the sex becomes tiresome, especially with so many random women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 01:44 AM
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When a guy has good genetics he has to put in zero work. Not really man. You still have to hit the gym/have a decent diet at the very least. Those two things take effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 09:42 PM
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then you would be basically a johnny sins combined with jeff bezos money and michael jordan popularity. You're making it out to be way harder than it really is. I've lived in NYC and had this exact opportunity, and it is staggeringly easy between tinder and the many social events out there. If you're motivated and Chad enough to do it, you could fuck a different woman every day. Obviously this is time consuming, exhausting, and risky, but it's very possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 09:39 PM
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Unfortunately it's never going to happen. Pussy has always had value and men don't discriminate much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 07:43 PM
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Perhaps men should start vetting for women whose father’s still have hair. If we dedicate ourselves, we could turn a good chunk of women into incels! I'm just putting it out there but there are multiple forms of MPB. The one you're referring to here is the sex-linked MPB which gets passed from the mother's X chromosome. If her father had MPB then there's a 50% chance her son will get it (if he inherents that X chromosome). There are autosomal (non sex linked) MPB genes, apparently, though I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 07:42 PM
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No because then I would become complacent to get fat, lazy, play video games all day. If your only motivation to be fit, productive and stay healthy stems from wanting to get laid, that's pretty pathetic. Prior to our current era where excessive worth is placed on pussy, attaining success and actualizing your goals as a man were considered the ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 07:34 PM
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I imagine women would definitely not want this. Their excessive worth that is inflated by beta males and simps would plummet dramatically.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 07:31 PM
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Even the chaddest of Chad's cannot ensure they have a daily supply of sex. Very wrong lol, especially with the advent of things like tinder. Spinning plates is a very real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 07:17 PM
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I mean, I have visual preferences, but they are not primary attractor. Every study about human sexuality would suggest differently, but I'm sure you're that one unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 07:16 PM
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The implication is quite obvious. If you say that something is happening 39% of the time, and it's a bad thing, then it's quite clear that the bad thing is happening 61% of the time, which is the majority of the time. This is so stupid. He laid out the facts without any sort of bias in the title. But to address it, these numbers are staggeringly high. Stop pretending like there isn't an epidemic of single mothers that is going to have catastrophic consequences on the types of kids being raised.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 08:24 PM
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People who struggle really hard with dating, both men and women, often are. lol @ your gaslighting. Women are the ones who are entitled in the current dating market. You're not fooling anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 05:36 AM
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Women on average are more likely to know how to cook and are more likely to be the ones keeping the house clean. I'd love to see a source on the cooking aspect of this that's up to date, and I'd love to see their research methodology on this. Most women these days don't know how to cook.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 05:15 AM
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Now whether this can be sustained in western culture is the big question. I have my doubts that it can be and there will be some sort of negative outcome from this trend. There are already negative outcomes from this, and it's only going to get worse. A large portion of men are becoming incelibate, marriage rates are going down, birth rates are going down, single motherhood is increasing (meaning lots of boys and girls being raised without father figures, which has its own slew of well documente…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 05:11 AM
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There's not going to be a real study on this subject, but I imagine the ratio of men to women who fall under this category will be disproportionately high. Women have intrinsic value and it's legitimately hard for them to die sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 03:12 AM
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Men put a shit ton of value on pussy. Nah, that's a dumb way of looking at it. Pussy has an instrinsic value because of how male and female sexuality differs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 03:05 AM
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As if a woman would ever be that honest. That is the truth, but you'll never hear it from the horse's mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 09:01 PM
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just be reminded that other people have good marriages, great sex lives, without traditional roles or conservative attitudes towards sex. Except they don't, hence why divorce rates are high and people are choosing to marry less. You've epitomized so many of the deplorable Boomer qualities that get thrown around- egotistical, dishonest, sex positive, racist, etc. that I'm at a loss for words. I would say that I feel bad for your husband, but given that he married a promiscuous woman, I think he g…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 07:08 AM
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Nope, good job being a racist though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 02:28 AM
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Most western guys in the US are also overweight, sexually desperate, easily divorced, and embrace feminism-- I'm happy to not be lumped in with them, though race in and of itself doesn't have much to do with it. I don’t even know many single people in their 30’s who still count how many sex partners they have Really? Because I do-- they're generally good people with good upbringings. The girls don't have daddy issues and don't want to be seen as skanks, plus they often have religious reasons to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 01:31 AM
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Why, what does race or nationality have to do with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 12:34 AM
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How's that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 12:31 AM
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I just fail to see how society is affected by scrawny and feminine men and why this is something that needs to be addressed Society is profoundly affected by this because it affects all aspects of a man's life when he is unable to manage his affairs (which is typically concomitant with being an unmanly man). A lack of discipline- e.g. being a man of the house means that these men are less likely to accomplish worthwhile goals in lieu of craving short-term distractions like eating excessively, bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 12:27 AM
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Oof.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 10:43 PM
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Just curious, how old were you when you got married, and how many men did you sleep with prior to marrying him?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 08:46 PM
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So it's just sexual assault, not really verbal sexual harassment that's being punished
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 08:39 PM
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Also, you're arguing from a moral stand calling certain behaviors shitty or disgusting without mentioning any real consequences of such behaviors. I addressed the consequences (the current paradigm creates fat, effeminate manchildren). Though there can be a moral component to this argument (raising children without manly values is inherently a bad thing to do to them), my argument is largely pragmatic. For example, being unproductive by choice might be wrong because you put an unnecessary strain…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 08:34 PM
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nd yelling at them something like that they are prude sluts that deserve to get raped. This isn't good behavior by any means, but I fail to see why this should be punishable by law. That is extremely scary and not akin to the sexual assault examples you cited.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 05:36 PM
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Typical bandwagon fallacy It's not a fallacy though- it's something inherent to human sexuality. Not enforcing these norms has serious social, behavioral, mental, and physical consequences. I have answered your question, but you're just coming off as dense at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 05:30 PM
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I doubt that's the case. With the number of desperate beta dudes throwing money at girls for this, it's as easy as finding some Indian astroturfers to promote your content so that you gain a solid viewership.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 08:55 AM
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It's less about being an asshole and more about being dominant. Women get turned on by men who show dominance (physical, social, etc.). If you're the type of weak guy who stumbles over words, can't maintain eye contact, can't lead your woman, can't take charge of his life, acts effiminate, embraces male feminism or generally displays some type of low-T behavior, it's a turnoff. It's why I always laugh when I read about some soccer mom telling boys to profess their feelings to the women they like…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 08:52 AM
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Right behaviors according to most of humanity, across all social cultures. There's a reason why fat, effeminate manchildren are hated or treated with disgust by even the most "progressive" people these days. They are pathetic, boring, and nonproductive people to be around. You can use the same bullshit argument you're spewing as an indictment of the current lack of teaching boys to be men. Why are people pushing boys to shitty lifestyles when they should be encouraging the opposite? These are th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 08:46 AM
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I'm not aware of any stigma though. You must be blind. A guy who never marries gets a lot of flak for it, same as a woman. People think something is wrong with a person if they have no marital partner by a certain age. Obviously this isn't necessarily the case, but the stigma exists across most societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 01:44 AM
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Like I said, if you're ripped and low BF%, odds are you'll boost your SMV by a lot. You may not every be a Brad Pitt, but even if you're a butterface, you'll get more action than an ugly dude who doesn't take care of himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 10:02 PM
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Billy the beta is often fat or scrawny because he lacks self-discipline, yes. In most cases you can take an ugly ass dude and make him decent looking when he puts on muscle and is lean. I'd say there are very few people (excluding stuff like burn victims, genetic deformities, etc.) who are so ugly that getting fit wouldn't really help them. Women will prefer lean ripped guys to skinnyfat or scrawny dudes any day, in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 09:32 PM
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Chinese women are turning into entitled bitches akin to Western women from what I've read. I think it's because of the imbalance between the male and female population in China.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 09:41 AM
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But Chad also games and faps and he gets laid. Not really as much or as often. Chad has discipline in his life. Billy the beta doesn't. It's why your average gamer is a fat or scrawny ugly dude who resorts to male feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 09:39 AM
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Pandering to other people's preferences is not your responsibility, unless your behavior is actually damaging to others. Wrong. When you ingrain certain shitty beliefs and behaviors as a normal (as the feminized west does), you tacitly make shitty lifestyles acceptable. This means an entire generation of weak, effiminate male feminists instead of men who hold traditionally masculine traits that are attractive to women. Contrary to the bullshit you're saying, it's not about proselytizing, rather …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 09:38 AM
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You say that like it's some small number for the average woman to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 02:54 AM
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research shows over and over again that only a minority of women are promiscuous A lot of the research is biased and more importantly ignores the fact that women tend to under-state their n-count, whereas men tend to overstate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 05:51 AM
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It's not perfect for sure, but compared to hair transplants which look pretty bad most of the time, it's worth a try at the very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 05:50 AM
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Define "old" here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 03:45 PM
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I'm not balding but I have family members who are. The big 3 has helped 2 of them greatly. I think that you're lying to yourself in saying that bald is beautiful. Most of the time a guy will look better with hair than without hair. That is not to say you can't pull in chicks without hair, but I'm willing to bet you're pulling in fewer and women who are less hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 01:44 PM
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It is absolutely true- young women these days, as long as they're not super obese or ugly, fuck the most attractive men. Dating apps like tinder, social circles, college parties, etc. are all easy venues for them to get some 8% BF ripped dude's cock. These are the same women that become super bitchy and demand 10,000 things from some skinnyfat/scrawny beta dude that they never asked of the men they freely fucked in their youth once they hit the wall. I've seen them time and time again- effeminat…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 01:41 PM
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Men mainly gatekeep long term relationships and the ability to provide for his wife and future kids. This is why a beta male who sells his commitment to a post wall slut is all the more pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 01:27 PM
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Yeah it's not a huge help, and it's generally pretty costly since most insurances don't cover finasteride. Still, if you jump on it early, it can be the difference between being a baldy in your 30's and having a nice head of hair. Whatever anyone says, hair on a guy makes a huge difference in your SMV. It's just one of those unfortunate truths for anyone who got unlucky on the genetic draw, kind of like height.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 01:26 PM
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Get on the big 3 if you haven't already (finasteride, rogaine, nizoral).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 09:27 AM
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Oh no! It turns out that when women make up fake stories about being raped or sexually harassed, they can gain from it on a social, financial, and legal perspective. WHAT A DYSTOPIA! FTFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 07:38 PM
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Who said it needs to be a full-fledged relationships. Having a quick fling with multiple men is easy. That statistic doesn't surprise me. Beta males are easy bank accounts- it's like the natural prey for any woman looking for a beta bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 05:09 AM
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There are valid reasons for divorce, and then there are those that stem from hypergamy having free reign in certain societies (e.g. western ones): wanting new young dick, upgrading to someone with more money, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 10:45 PM
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It's not a hard rule- it's just something that makes it far easier for women to divorce rape because they want to fuck a more attractive guy. That part is definitely true, and you're delusional to think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 09:47 PM
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It also says that women aren't attracted to their husband and will cheat on him with anyone who seems better if they can get away with it legally and socially. With that addendum your statement becomes true. Western society has so many social and legal safety nets for women to exploit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 08:04 PM
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We live in a day and age where a woman being a brazen whore is accepted. I think that healthy older role models are way down on the list of things that the general media should promote.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 08:01 PM
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the mans choice still has to be accepted or denied. The man's choice in what? If it's whether or not he wants to abort the child, then that's just false.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 07:59 PM
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Nah, you can't play it both ways like this. Both the man and woman agreed to have sex. The fetus is a 50-50 split of the father and mother's DNA. If your prerogative is to give only the woman the right to decide whether or not the child comes into this world, then she also has to bear the responsibility for providing for the child. If the man had an equal say and agreed to it being born, then sure, they'd both be equally responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 08:26 PM
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there are a few men who have more to offer than a wallet. Yeah and I'm sure the gold diggers who marry them are totally looking at his tepid personality or ability to make conversation when they convince them to put the ring on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 03:21 AM
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Lol bro you sound like more of a virgin than anyone else in this thread when you say that. Most women are attracted to stoic men, and discussing your emotions with them is the absolute worst thing that you can do when trying to get into their pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 03:18 AM
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Lol go and talk to your woman (if you have one) about how sad you feel, how you cried while watching a movie, how you feel trauma or anxiety, and she'll definitely view you as less of a man, especially if you do this over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 03:15 AM
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The only thing stoping the right(should we look at it politically) is there isn’t enough evidence or they may not like the results. On the contrary, there's very good evidence for it. I don't care about partisan opinions on this issue, but I won't pretend that the GOP isn't as pussified and PC as the left when it comes to things like sexual freedom or women's rights, at least insofar as they're willing to publicly admit. More importantly though, the right isn't in charge of most of academia, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 03:12 AM
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I don't understand your point- it's irrelevant to what I'm saying. Political affiliation has everything to do with this, and you downplaying it discredits the fact that the people who approve of studies, exploratory or not, are often deciding whether or not they want their budgets slashed, and their reputations tarnished at the hands of the SJW machine. Also it's a little reductive to call it a mere correlation at this point. If social science or science in general were as limited in what consti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 04:34 AM
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Gender is a social construct, but that discussion is neither here nor there when it comes to what most of RP asserts. I still don't see links on popular subjects like pair bonding, promiscuity in women, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 04:08 AM
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Except that's exactly how it would work. I've worked in university research for a bit, and I know the sort of political bullshit that can prevent research like this from ever seeing the light of day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 09:53 PM
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I don't see any links. I figured with the "majority of social science findings" you'd provide some sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 09:51 PM
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If you want to start talking about biases, consider that most of American academia is highly liberal, and the odds of seeing a study that diminishes or tacitly disparages promiscuity in women would be lambasted. Would probably be a career-ender for whoever authors such a paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 05:33 PM
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There's a difference between being a bitch with no spine who backs down when he's being stepped on, and a guy who seeks peaceful alternatives before he has to resort to violence. Most BP guys I've seen can't physically stand up for themselves so they will back down quickly from physical confrontations or accept being stepped on. On the flip side I've seen dudes who are clearly looking to fight or bully people for the fun of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 05:28 PM
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ignore the majority of modern social science findings, Such as? Mind giving specific links to these studies you're alluding to?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 05:25 PM
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Not socialism, just good old patriarchy. It's the natural order for most social structures that thrive, and for good reason. We are already seeing the shitty societal degradations that are happening because of slut acceptance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 06:31 AM
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The only proper reaction to finding out a man is fucking your woman is stomping his head into the ground until he stops moving Nah, I'd say the cheating guy gets a less intense punishment than the woman. In most cases I'd argue the woman carries out the greater betrayal with infidelity, given the nature of paternity and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 04:44 AM
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And we live in a day and age where mate competition is about as Darwinian as it gets (women fucking mainly top tier men, top-tier men getting most of the pussy).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 03:12 AM
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Says the group who can't get their dicks wet I'm willing to bet that red pillers get laid, on average, more than blue pill/feminist males do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 06:55 AM
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most of them share the same homogenous opinions. You say that like the overweight male feminists are any different- they largely have homogenous opinions as well-- it's what you can expect from a forum where people can be easily censored or promoted based on what they say. And really, I'd argue RP tenets require guys to think against the popular grain of thought these days. Most guys are (openly or not) feminists in western society, unfortunately. They're willing to accept marriage with sluts, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 06:54 AM
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Accountability to the self? What an idiotic thing to say. People's own biases make it difficult or wholly prevent accountability. Doubly so when you factor in female solipsism about partner counts. yet women and girls still have sex out of wedlock, still sleep with guys they want, still reject losers they dont want....males made marriage a raw deal for women so women responded accordingly. if males want to marry, they will have to accept that she had lovers before him. oof This is only a thing i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 08:29 AM
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Sure thing buddy http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/21/more-sexual-partners-unhappy-marriage_n_5698440.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2540009/Women-sleep-university-likely-depressed.html http://public.psych.iastate.edu/ccutrona/psych592a/articles/Sexual%20infidelity%20in%20women.pdf http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2733220/Women-don-t-sleep-wedding-happier-marriages-men-play-field-without-worry-study-finds.html http://i.imgur.com/rrLe319.jpg http://www.statisticbrain.co…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 08:25 AM
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The vast majority of women want a man close to their age. Very true- thankfully apps like Tinder don't ask you to verify your age so if you can pass as 4-5 years younger than you are, you're good
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 09:59 AM
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Men and women are not the same, and different things turn us on. Men are visual, so yes, a hot girl will make us feel better than an ugly girl, This, for the most part. Yes, there are hot women who are bad in bed or otherwise intolerable, but for the most part guys put up with a woman's shitty mannerisms just to get inside of them. Most guys would derive much more pleasure from fucking a girl like kate upton than some 5 with a good attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 10:19 PM
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It matters that it's harder because men, even the most attractive ones, aren't the ones who control access to sexual relationships-- most of the time women hold the keys. Marriage is largely disincentived for men, both on a legal level and social level (she is undependable), and sex for men is something that can only be secured by jumping from slut to slut unless you want to bite the bullet and marry a promiscuous woman. Comparing AIDS to a woman's inability to pairbond is hilarious, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 09:30 PM
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women are accountable. To whom? How so? Elaborate please. slut-shaming doesnt work, never did. Sure it did. It showed promiscuity in women as an undesirable trait that, at the very least, was covered up better or just not exhibited at large in the scale that it is today. just because you dont have sex doesnt mean the rest of us have to suffer. It's not just about sex-- it's not just about alpha chads banging multiple women or just about fat male feminists being virgins til marriage. It's about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 09:27 PM
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Your average guy is not that desperate. Yes he is. If your average (fat) male in the US is willing to put a ring on a once promiscuous woman, that indicates desperation and a lack of selectivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 09:42 AM
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If women do it = despicable dual mating strategyIf men do it = noble gotta catch them all Pokemon collecting False equivalency. Men's sexual opportunities are significantly harder to get than women's ability to get dick. And I doubt anyone would consider it "noble" for a man or a woman. It's about as "noble" for a guy as earning a living.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 09:40 AM
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I'd say they're both par for the course, but male bullies tend to be worse in terms of how badly their victims are affected.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 09:37 AM
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isn't Donald Trump considered the ultimate Alpha lol no. He is definitely a beta male. He has never been attractive, especially physique-wise. He has relied on money to get wives/hookers, and he inherited his wealth/opportunity for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 09:36 AM
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Redpill can't complain about modern women being too slutty and un loyal, blah blah and at the same time increasing womens body count. Sure we can- it's ultimately their choice because they hold the keys to sexual access. Until we, as a society, unilaterally start slut-shaming and holding women more accountable, there won't be any real point in sexually successful men holding back from having sex with your average tinder whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 07:56 AM
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How does it hurt the fuckboi? It "hurts" to not have sex as a man- both on a pleasure level and on a social achievement level. This is never the case for women. Men in the past had the ability to marry young and enjoy stable sexual relationships, but now it's like the wild west/jungle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 07:53 AM
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A slut isn't undesirable for a relationship just because of how many men she slept with. Sure, it's not the only factor, but it's probably one of the most important ones to consider. There's a good amount of evidence to suggest that women's ability to pair bond is significantly affected by her n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 07:51 AM
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RPillers know the truth though. That's what makes it their responsibility. The problem with what you're saying is that in a society like the one we live in (in the west), if you're not the one smashing her pussy, someone else is. As men it's generally significantly harder and more rewarding to have sex with as many women as you can, regardless of whether or not you want to LTR them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 07:49 AM
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Sluts satisfy the basic want for sex- they're good if you think solely on the basis of a pleasure principle, but they're horrible for society as a large. Forget the moral fiber aspect of it- they are horrible women in terms of commitment. They cannot pair bond well, and they often demonstrate undesirable qualities such as vanity and large egos. They also often lack skills that men seek in wives/mothers (domesticity, child-rearing, selflessness, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 07:46 AM
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Because victim mentality allows women to exert their privilege while appearing to be somehow oppressed or under attack. The only thing that red pillers attack is this retarded, cancerous feminist system that we currently live in, where brazen whores are tolerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 09:43 AM
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You say that now, but TRP is continually exerting greater influence in mainstream society. Maybe people don't know it as the red pill or men's rights, but they have a fundamental understanding that the paradigm that governs western society with feminism and women's sexual liberation is wreaking nothing but havoc, most often at the expense of men's freedom and ability to act.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 09:41 AM
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Here's one example: Behavioral changes due to overpopulation in mice This isn't proof of the claim that you made. Any source on that? Sure Source: David W. Purcell, JD, PhD, Deputy Director for Behavioral and Social Science, Division of HIV/AIDS Prevention, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, et al. state in their article "Childhood Sexual Abuse Experienced by Gay and Bisexual Men: Understanding the Disparities and Interventions to Help Eliminate Them," published in the 2008 book Unequal…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 11:51 PM
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Really? Link me any proof that homosexuality is an adaptation to overpopulation. The fags will be enthralled to learn that their illness is genetically based
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 06:28 AM
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There's zero evidence that it's an adaptation to overpopulation. It also isn't observed in all species. Within humans it likely has to do with childhood trauma. It is absolutely an illness. Being tall or short is purely a virtue of genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 01:37 PM
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You do realize that academia is extremely biased towards the left and what is considered "politically correct," right? It's the same reason that illnesses such as homosexuality are no longer considered illnesses in the DSM. It doesn't take a genius to realize that studies that confirm what many men readily observe on a daily basis won't be happening any time soon, because any university or lab conducting such research will be lambasted for doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 04:13 AM
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You can learn to read. Don't put words in another person's mouth and expect them to not point it out.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 06:00 PM
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Unless you're wearing a turban or something that overtly flaunts the fact that you're a Muslim, it's pretty much a non-issue. And believe me, if you look good enough, a woman's pussy isn't thinking about your religious beliefs.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 05:59 PM
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I am an atheist btw. Why the fuck does that matter, lmao? Also filipinas are generally easy to get with in my experience. Also kind of ugly, but that's just me.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 05:38 PM
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All the more reason why you need to protect yourself by being that top 20% that gets to have sex freely. Work on that body, fellas-- only thing that separates you from the general cuck male population
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 05:35 PM
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You're missing one key element of success. The idea is to work "smart," and to supplement that with hard work. You can work your dick off as an English major, but unless you're coming from an Ivy League (even then, it's risky), you'll have shitty job prospects in the future. Pick a good career path ahead of time and work towards it. Optimally you should eventually aim to open your own business, but again, planning is paramount.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 05:32 PM
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This was possibly the hardest lesson that I learned in the most brutal manner after someone close to me passed away in college. Aside from my immediate family, absolutely no one cared, no one ever offered a lending hand-- nothing. When I did a complete 180 with my life (going from obese to normal BF%, then bulking up, getting into med school), I left a lot of family members and friends behind. You have to remember one thing- life is about give/take. If your friends just bring you down and give n…
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 05:29 PM
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As much as you are holding onto this 'woe is me, women are shit' victim crap, it's got to go at some point. Lol, what the fuck? Where are you getting that from in my post? Learn to read, dude. I wholeheartedly agree that we have to own up to our actions-- hence why fat dudes who claim to be depressed need to own up. Right now, people don't know any better way, and let life happen to them, instead of being purposeful in their decisions. You can hand wave it as pussy faggot betas, but it misses th…
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 05:26 PM
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I wouldn't recommend the same to any young guy. Better to just learn self discipline and sort your shit out. You'll find that you have no time to be depressed when you're so busy and so tired from a focused schedule.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 02:31 PM
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Except many men who feel "depressed" are just losers who can't change their shitty habits. Of course genuine mental illness exists, especially depression, but let's not tiptoe around it-- leaning on meds to save you is a horrible idea, and it doesn't help that much of the western healthcare system involves doctors avidly prescribing a gamut of medicines with profound mental effects, quickly.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 02:30 PM
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Let's not pretend that faggot ass betas don't take depression meds because they're too weak to change their habits. Yeah, if you're skinnyfat, only have a post-wall slut wife in your life, and no real friends, you're going to be depressed. Maybe instead of playing video games all day these fatties should hit the gym and develop some discipline in their lives.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 02:28 PM
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Where are your leg exercises? Can't skip that shit dude. Deadlifts aren't a substitute for squats.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 02:26 PM
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I generally agree with this-- with sexual power comes a degree of freedom in your life, just as you gain power through economic freedom by being rich. To be powerless in a sexual manner is to be your average overweight/scrawny beta male. Sexless, constantly seeking the approval of women they want to sleep with, the beta males hope for the power to take whatever pussy they want, but they're too weak to change their habits in order to become powerful. Economic, social, physical, and sexual freedom…
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 04:40 AM
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Yeah sorry to break it to you, but none of these are stopping you from becoming Chad-- ED is definitely manageable in this day and age, and a lot of the rest of what you're saying is just your typical beta hyperchondriac excuse bullshit. Man up and take control of your life
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 08:05 PM
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What if OP was 4' 2" cross eyed with a speech impediment? That's a big "if." Strabismus can be fixed with eye surgery or visual treatment, but anyways, for most of the male population there are just bullshit excuses. If you're 5'6, maybe you won't pull in as much poon as 6'3 Chad, but if you're fit and well groomed, it won't matter much-- you'll still be getting more strange than most guys do.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 03:21 AM
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But there's many mental, physical and logistical factors to becoming Chad that not everyone has. Such as? I really want to hear this, because it's a retarded excuse most of the time. Unless you're really fucking ugly, your face was mutilated, or due to some weird extraneous factor unattractive, it's very hard to be unattractive if you're doing your best to be fit, and to dress well/be groomed. Am I supposed to spend 5 years trying to get somewhere it took someone else one year and expect that no…
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 03:18 AM
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But why would you like to marry a woman anyway? Like it or not, the healthy family structure involves a mother and a father both playing a role in a kid's life. Normally in a RP society this would work out because men weren't weak fat fucks, and women weren't whores unable to pair bond. But we live in feminist societies now. It's a risky proposition at best, but if you're seriously looking to build a healthy family, good luck doing so without marrying.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 03:15 AM
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You have a loser's mentality, and that's why you'll continue to frequent prostitutes instead of bettering yourself. You don't need to be 6'2, you don't need to be white, but you should be jacked. Work every day to better yourself. Realistically you can achieve your fitness goals within 1-3 years depending on how badly out of shape you are.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 12:56 AM
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6 foot 2 inch leach who doesn't contribute That's an incorrect stereotype. Chad just refers to the guy who fucks women easily because he is attractive. The rest is just what fat dudes like to tag along because they envy such a guy. Granted, there are some Chads who fit this description, but not all.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 12:53 AM
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Even if you marry a virgin, which is slowly becoming a legend I agree with this part. Unfortunately even in RP countries now, your average girl is a gigantic slut, unless we're talking about super religious places, but odds are most guys won't be traveling abroad just to get married. she will still wonder about other guys and feel on missing out. That's debatable-- a girl who's a virgin by marriage will be much more likely to stick to a marriage than any other type of girl. It's the best-case sc…
/r/TheRedPill24/02/17 07:56 PM
5

Not necessarily. Some women are experts at hiding that shit if they get the slightest wiff that you might be concerned about it. You know which group of women are the worst when it comes to this? Religious women-- they'll take their sexual past to the grave, and probably not even share it with their closest friends out of the fear of being castigated/shunned by their community.
/r/TheRedPill24/02/17 06:41 PM
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I agree with your method, it's the best way to find out if she's a whore or not, but let's be clear about one thing. Do not marry a woman before you get a good grasp of her n-count. Anything over 0 and your odds of a horrible marriage skyrocket. You can't wife a slut, remember that boys. Doesn't matter how "reformed" she is now, it just won't work.
/r/TheRedPill24/02/17 06:39 PM
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But paying the price via being Chad is the best bargain. You get to enjoy the good health that comes with being fit, while pulling in pussy, while being respected more on a professional level, and while being treated better by people in general. I've always seen paying for hookers as a beta trait, but I will at the same time say that I enjoy them cutting into the pussy cartel that your average girl has. I'm definitely FOR sex robots for this reason-- when betas have something other than their ha…
/r/TheRedPill24/02/17 06:35 PM
2

This only happened to me once, and I have to give props to the girl-- she really did a good job at hiding how fat she was through her Tinder pictures. Simply told her that her pictures did not accurately reflect how she looked and wished her a good day. Learn to walk away from the actual hot ones and ditching a fatty is a piece of cake by comparison. Abundance. Always.
/r/TheRedPill24/02/17 06:32 PM
0

It's funny because I'm one of those relatively young to-be doctors, but you're absolutely right-- it really doesn't matter how hard or quickly you worked. At the end of the day your quality of life is important, and many of the things we think demarcate success are just smokes and mirrors. I used to think that the kid with the highest GPA, SAT score, MCAT score, etc. was the smartest and most successful. But the truth is that this doesn't equate to success in life. Those same people, in my exper…
/r/TheRedPill24/02/17 06:31 PM
2

Yep. I love medicine, but I can't lie-- having to study day-in and day-out for licensing boards, or spending all day in the hospital really blows. Work is definitely work, which is why I like RP focusing on business-building. The one way to work hard and build a structure where you don't really have to work for the rest of your life if you're doing it right.
/r/TheRedPill24/02/17 06:27 PM
3

Thing is, I have so much shit going on I'm lucky if I get in an hour or two a week. Bingo-- there's the market that you're generally doing it right. When you barely have time to fit in video games into your schedule that's full of healthy activities, that's how you know you're moderating them well. The fat or scrawny neckbeard only thinks about fitting in healthy activities into a day fill with video games, porn, weed, TV, etc. This is why so much of the skinnyfat young male population cries abo…
/r/TheRedPill24/02/17 06:25 PM
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Also a big reason why you don't wife a slut. She'll only remember Chads' cocks pounding her hard in her youth. Chances are, you won't fuck as well as 50+ random top-tier guys.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/17 10:03 PM
1

You have to monitor your weight and how much you're eating very closely when bulking. If you're not seeing consistent strength gains along with a weight increase, then you're probably doing something wrong. At the same time you want to gain muscle without becoming fat in the process. It's a delicate balance, and it's easy to fuck it up if you're not cognizant of what you're eating.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/17 10:02 PM
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but the more volume the better for aesthetics (high rep, high sets, low weight). Source on this, because I call bullshit. This is just doing cardio with your muscles. You're building vascularity with the muscle, but you're not inducing hypertrophy or anything of the ilk.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/17 10:00 PM
1

This should only reify the concepts that are discussed here-- you seldom get sluts admitting to be sluts, but the proof is in the pudding. Dick is abundant-- want easy pussy? Go work out in the gym and make sure you're putting the right foods inside yourself in the kitchen. Can't do it? Tough titties, have fun being a skinnyfat/scrawny nobody who women ignore until they hit the wall. Then you become the skinnyfat/scrawny nobody who's a paycheck for a used up slut.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/17 09:58 PM
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This subreddit has a weird little group of white supremacist/trump-loving idiots, but rest assured, they don't speak for most of the subreddit. Trump is far from alpha-- he's just another fat dude raised as a rich elite who bought his way to power.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/17 05:34 PM
5

I seldom go there anymore because it's full of cucks and all things feminist, but I really encourage anyone who does go there to just spend a few minutes looking at pictures of the people posting there. It will explain a lot. Overweight, scrawny manchildren and landwhales comprise it.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/17 09:38 PM
1

Yet, if he's trying to lose weight, he cannot, by definition, be at a surplus.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/17 01:25 AM
1

I'm really struggling with losing weight. I exercise and my diet isn't crap If you're going to tout reading comprehension then at least do it right. He's stated that he's trying to lose weight-- it's a logical inference to assume that he's (trying to be) at a caloric deficit. I'm also willing to bet that someone eating clean isn't scarfing down more than their TDEE in healthy foods if they're trying to lose weight. Odds are, he's eating too much or still eats shitty foods, and is gaining fat/mus…
/r/TheRedPill21/02/17 12:56 AM
1

Two real possibilities here: You're eating too much. This is likely the biggest culprit. Track your calories, log everything in myfitnesspal. Buy a food scale and weigh literally everything before it gets put on your plate. Make sure your macros are OK. It doesn't matter if you're exercising your heart out if you're eating like shit when you get home. Weigh yourself once a week, consistently at the same time. Weigh yourself in the mornings before you drink water or eat anything. This will give y…
/r/TheRedPill21/02/17 12:15 AM
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Wrong. You won't be putting on muscle if you're at a caloric deficit. You may be gaining strength, but you won't be putting on muscle mass. Stop talking out of your ass, please.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/17 12:12 AM
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Soda has to be one of the worst things you can put into your body on a regular basis: -Lots of sugar, check -Acidic, check -Lots of shitty chemicals with biological effects that we don't understand fully, check -Cheap, check -Liquid calories that go with most meals, check The true drink for all skinnyfat men across several nations.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/17 12:11 AM
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You've probably always had a shitty sleep schedule in your life. I suggest getting a normal routine down, and this will require a few days of sleep sacrifice, and maybe a few weeks to get accommodated with. 8 hours of sleep should be your general marker for good sleep. Make sure you're up at a certain time in the morning, no matter what, and I mean no matter what. Get your ass off the bed at this time no matter how sleepy, warm, and comfy you feel. Even if it's a day off, even if you don't have …
/r/TheRedPill21/02/17 12:08 AM
3

It's funny-- women get so many entitlements just by putting a modicum of effort into staying skinny. Now we have landwhales who want the same entitlements without even putting that effort in. Fortunately human biology will never see fatties as attractive.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/17 02:30 PM
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As always- actions, not words. Your physique and body language convey more to people than 1,000 words. It's why people generally don't respect or trust overweight/scrawny men.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/17 02:25 PM
2

People who grow up with good eating habits are at a huge advantage. Seriously, just look at the amount of research about shit we barely know in obese people. Insulin resistance, greater presence of hunger hormones, etc.-- all this shit stems from having terrible habits from childhood. When you're taught to see food as fuel, not as a source of pleasure, your proclivity to be a fit individual increases drastically, I'd imagine.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/17 02:23 PM
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These are temporary effects as your metabolism switches from breaking carbs to breaking fat for energy. It is called "keto flu", and lasts from a week for the lucky ones, two weeks for most, and three weeks for the unlucky ones. This is generally true when you eat small amounts of fats, actually. Your mood goes to shit, as does your libido. People who go too extreme with their diets or have shitty macros experience this. Keto flu is to be expected, and it definitely sucks, but once you're over t…
/r/TheRedPill19/02/17 02:21 PM
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Doing the same thing over and over and over again expecting shit to change. Don't worry though, "muh feminism" will produce high-functioning men and women who go on to become great parents, right guys? Right???! Hint: it produces fat/scrawny manchildren who amount to nothing and whores like the one in OP's post.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/17 02:06 AM
1

Well honestly, my biggest issue in life is that i cant freely talk about my opinions on things. It's not like i have extreme opinions, just opinions that arent politically correct where i live and i have no idea where to find like-minded people in my area. That's not contained to one particular country. A lot of the things we talk about on TRP are impossible to discuss with most of the population because of how skewed their demented beliefs are on these matters. Don't worry about it though; in t…
/r/TheRedPill18/02/17 02:47 AM
1

I don't know too much about that; St. George's is the only one I hear much about, but a betting man wouldn't put a wager on any Caribbean school. It should only be used as a last resort. If you flunk your USMLE 1, you're fucked.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/17 01:51 AM
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I was in your shoes not too long ago. Was also a pre-med student, studying for the MCAT, zero confidence, etc. It's easy to read words said here and just not heed them. If I could give you some advice, it would be to take your life seriously right now. No sacrifices when it comes to dieting/gym-- this will be tough as FUCK when you're studying for the MCAT, especially when your stomach is grumbling and you need to cover two more chapters for the day. But be patient, give it time, and remember th…
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 12:33 AM
1

If he would clean up his diet and spend 6 months in the gym he would look better than most guys his age. That's a huge if when it comes to the modern western male population. You have to remember that RP emphasizes lifting and proper diet, but this isn't the case for your average dude, who thinks that eating out often, never stepping foot in a gym, etc. is totally acceptable. These are the men who've been lied to and told that women will love them for who they are, even if they look skinnyfat li…
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 12:30 AM
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Lifting is important but this story has nothing to do with lifting. It does in that you need to do it to sustain a marriage given our horrendously gynocentric society. But you're right-- the elephant in the room is hypergamy and how this slut thinks that she deserves Chad. Just another scary story about what happens when you wife a slut.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 12:28 AM
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Posts like V-day are important though. They're a reminder of what kind of retarded, ass-backwards society most of us live in. Also a reminder that if you're not Chad, you're paying for the prospect of sex. We live in a gynocentric society, and bringing up pejorative aspects of such a society is important if you want to have a meaningful discussion.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/17 07:12 PM
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Men have the drive to inseminate women for their entire lives-- we just learn to control the drive better as we age.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/17 07:10 PM
3

Simple, concise, and to the point-- excellent post. Self-dependency is the single greatest distinction between the alpha and beta male. Overweight/scrawny weak men will find 1001 excuses to not do what they're supposed to do. Strong men will get the job done and reap the rewards for doing so.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/17 07:07 PM
0

You take that amount of vitamin D daily? Might be excessive, since you'll just be pissing most of it away. Every other day might be a better idea.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/17 07:05 PM
1

Ignore the complaints or play them off (amused mastery). If she's being a genuine bitch about it, ghost her and find yourself another girl. Abundance mentality is key here.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/17 07:02 PM
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If you're feeling back pain, then your form is probably shit. Work on that before you hate the program.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/17 01:56 PM
18

The only gift Chad has to give a woman, V-day or not, is his big cock as she grabs his shoulders. The gifts that Beta Bitch Billy has to give to a woman include flowers, a movie, dinner, foot rubs, and his soul. Be Chad, fellas, don't be the loser who needs to woo women with money/gifts.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/17 10:23 PM
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I used to get angry at this sort of thing, but you really understand that this is a woman's nature-- it dates back across human history. Women get what they want through sheer manipulation, and their beauty during youth is when they hold the most power over weak men. They cannot physically get what they want, so they use others to get it. In a day and age where feminism reigns, we see this day in and day out. Every bimbo gets a free pass, and gets what she wants, easily, because men are taught t…
/r/TheRedPill14/02/17 06:50 PM
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is that the mother is always more against her daughter’s behavior than her father I come from a RP background so this is generally true because such mothers were raised to know marrying older means that the woman probably has a sexual past. As usual, once women hit the wall they look for better options. The father in this sounds like your typical blue pill faggot, willing to accept a woman's sexual promiscuity just in order to marry her off to some poor fucker who probably worked hard to get to …
/r/TheRedPill14/02/17 02:32 PM
1

Its a hard process to take in. I always compare myself with others still but its getting better. I try to compare myself to the me of yesterday. It's very hard to get used to this idea. We always want what we don't have at a given time-- it's just human nature. Give yourself enough time, effort, and introspection, and you'll get it.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/17 02:28 PM
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Not sure why you're being downvoted. Guys here are fond of escorts but unless you enjoy paying a good deal of money for a hooker you know nothing about, barring the legal consequences if you're caught, it's not worth it. Much easier to get in shape and use Tinder or just practice daygame. Much cheaper as well. The most I spend to sleep with women is coffee. That's the perk of being Chad.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/17 12:28 PM
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You can't wind the clock back, but you can still live a fulfilling life here out. But do your daughter a favor and keep her close to your side-- raise her to be a proper RP woman, not a slut like her mother. It really is scary though-- one wrong cumshot in a girl's pussy and boom, life=devastated. Double strap on, no exceptions boys. That's the best you can do unless you're content on snipping your nuts.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/17 12:26 PM
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They're still there, but they don't really detract from my abs. It's not ideal, but to be frank, no girl really gives a fuck once you look good with your shirt off.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/17 11:00 AM
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One step at a time-- we're all only human and bad habits are the ghosts that follow us everywhere.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/17 01:02 AM
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Should be AskCucks-- it's just a reflection of how the majority of males in a feminized society tend to act. RP philosophy is slowly creeping into the mainstream, and it's wonderful to see feminists shitting their pants at this hard truth.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/17 12:58 AM
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But only betas delude themselves into thinking that a slut can be a loyal wife.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/17 12:56 AM
1

Don't get depressed dude-- I was there myself about 6 years ago when I was in college. Had a gross fatbody and I changed that first to one where I no longer had a belly, then to one where I am more chiseled. Patience is the name of the game here, and you can only do this one step at a time. Think of it this way: it took years of bad habits to get you to your current bad body, but it'll take maybe a few months to a year to get to your ideal weight goals with a little discipline. That's relatively…
/r/TheRedPill13/02/17 12:50 AM
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I always advise people to create a meal plan and to cook ahead of time so that they don't deviate from their diets. Some people have an easier time eating fish, or stews, or grilled chicken breasts, or grilled chicken thighs, etc. The point is, make sure your macros add up, and make sure you're eating shit that you can sustain yourself on. This is important in losing weight because you don't want to relapse back into your shitty junk food habits, and important in bulking so that you don't get fa…
/r/TheRedPill13/02/17 12:47 AM
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I think it speaks volumes about the state of our society when a slut can literally market her face/body out to sexually desperate men and other sluts like herself. She literally just has to exist and take selfies.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 06:38 PM
2

http://ketogains.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/BF-Male.jpg Which one are you on this chart?
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 02:51 AM
2

Depends on where you're starting-- are you fat, scrawny? What's your BF%? If you weren't getting any before, chances are that 1 month of hard work with the diet/gym won't get you shit. Then again, your problem might not be physique as much as it is game, but it's hard to tell over the internet.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 10:49 PM
1

Random OCD factoid: chunky sea salt is good for you in moderation; smooth grain salt has added compounds to make it flow better in factories. These compounds raise your blood pressure which wears your heart out (just like being overweight does.) Never knew that. I typically use the kosher sea salt (chunkier) just because it's easier to pour out of a shaker. Doesn't surprise me-- 90% of the shit we eat has so many additives which the FDA doesn't even know will cause damage to your body over time.…
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 10:47 PM
2

To the fat dudes here-- don't forget your cardio either. In fact, I'd argue that cardio should be your staple when it comes to what you do in the gym, along with a good diet. Lift 3-4 times a week and hit your major muscle groups, and add in cardio on lift days. Add dedicated days to cardio to make sure that you can burn a few extra calories here/there.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 05:27 AM
4

my question is it giving you more eye conduct from women? You slowly notice it as your body changes. I first noticed it when I was 20 pounds within my goal weight when I first lost weight a couple of years ago. After bulking up it became increasingly noticeable that women were more open to flirting and touching my arms/chest. Part of the uphill battle when changing your physique is realizing that even after a day, week, or month's worth of hard work in the gym and with your diet, you will not be…
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 05:26 AM
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I think that he means don't stay fat if you're exercising-- some fat guys like to bulk before they "later lose weight," but they end up just using that as an excuse to continue eating their shitty junk foods.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 05:23 AM
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not to mention the gym is less than 5 minutes walking distance from where I live I'd kill for that-- half of the battle is just getting your ass to the gym. I have about a 10 minute drive so I can't complain much, and at this point I've been going to the gym almost daily for over 2 years now.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 05:22 AM
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Easy-- they think "if I do this I can use his money to buy ____." No woman sells her pussy for free. As a guy you can only pay for it by looking great yourself, money, or with status. Most skinnyfat and scrawny weak men rely on money when they marry women who clearly aren't attracted to them.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 05:20 AM
4

Abundance mentality is forgotten in modern society. We're conditioned from childhood to find "the right one" and fight tooth and nail to keep her. This isn't how men have been doing it for thousands of years. If your woman doesn't give you the sexual exclusivity and pleasure you deserve, drop her and find a younger, hotter, and better one. If you're Chad enough it's easy enough to do this. If you're an overweight or scrawny loser with no priorities in life, you'll default to the conditioned resp…
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 12:19 AM
1

Lol the number of blue pill faggots brigading this thread under the guise of being red pillers is astounding.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 12:16 AM
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I disagree-- even in these times, it's not overly optimistic to look out for a virgin woman to be your wife and the mother of your kids. If you're a man looking for a serious LTR, don't settle for an n-count greater than 0. Anything greater than that increases your chances of marrying a hypergamous slut, considerably. Dude never should've put a ring on that. Everything that comes now is just going to be the fallout of his own poor decision. By all means, plate women like this-- that's all they'r…
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 12:12 AM
2

Depends on what type of law you're going into. I hear that corporate lawyers make bank.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 12:09 AM
6

San Juan de Lurigancho in Peru. What do you mean by this? Peruvians (men and women) are probably some of the ugliest that south america has to offer. I've always seen Colombian women as the hottest South Americans, in general.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 12:08 AM
5

Walking waste of testosterone. That's part of the problem. All these skinnyfat dadbods are full of estrogen.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 10:53 PM
8

you complain about it? Losers will always complain about doing actual work that betters their circumstances. Losers always want life to be comfortable and things to be handed to them. With loser males, this manifests as being overweight/scrawny manchild who lets his woman boss him around and take advantage of him.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 04:02 AM
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They want to drag you down to their level to equal the playing field instead of putting work in to bring themselves up. Bingo. This is why I love being ripped-- I can feel the beta jealousy and anger each time I walk into the room and get more stares from attractive women than they could dream of. It's funny-- I get more passive aggressive or outright aggressive behavior now that I'm fit than I ever would when I used to be a fat guy. This is why you always pay attention to people's actions/body …
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 04:00 AM
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In my experience, religious girls can be a very stark, mixed bag. If they come from very conservative backgrounds then it's pretty likely that they haven't had sex before marriage-- increasingly rare in this day and age. But the ones who do claim to be devout and sleep around never advertise their relationships to anyone in a way that you can find out about it. These are the most dangerous women to come across in terms of a LTR-- they can have huge n-counts but they're good at hiding the evidenc…
/r/TheRedPill08/02/17 05:06 PM
5

For women, sex is only degrading if she allows a man of lower value to take her. Duty sex, transactional sex and vanilla/starfish sex are all indicators that she doesn't perceive the man as high or equal value to herself. That is when sex is degrading and humiliating for her. Bingo. When you hear about these beta losers with sexless marriages you can guarantee that the man is an effeminate low-worth loser who's getting used for his money.
/r/TheRedPill08/02/17 05:04 PM
5

Suck at it, but whatever. So did I when I first started doing it. Just keep at it. It. Gets. Better.
/r/TheRedPill08/02/17 04:29 AM
-3

Sorry to burst your bubble, but you sound like you're making your ex out to be a special snowflake. You should be sleeping with numerous other girls-- and make no mistake, they can offer what she did and more. You sound like you need to expand your horizons. Good or bad terms, it doesn't matter how the relationship ended, just that you need to move on.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/17 07:32 PM
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This is why feminism is dangerous, at its core, when it comes to forming a healthy family structure. We see a distinct problem arise. (1) Marry a post-wall slut who can't pair bond and have children with her. Children get raised in a feminist environment with a slut of a mother, seeing her get her way. Boys raised in this environment get raised to be effeminate male feminist neckbeards. Girls get raised to be sluts like their mother. (2) Refuse to marry. The logical option, but alas, a bad one i…
/r/TheRedPill07/02/17 07:30 PM
2

This sounds interesting-- I'll give this exercise a try, thanks for sharing.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/17 07:26 PM
1

Your lack of progress may be related to your bad form (also related to bad diet, not enough protein). If you can afford it, get a personal trainer for a few sessions or have an experienced gymbro help you out for a few sessions. When I started out with squats and deadlifts for the first time, even after watching YT videos, I was making mistakes without really knowing it. You need an outside observer to help you correct this.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/17 07:26 PM
1

Proper form>>>>>>>>>>>>> lifting heavier. Don't go to the gym to show off. Learn the form right and start at a low weight if you have to.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/17 07:24 PM
1

The men who aren't approaching girls are refraining from this because they suck ass and would fail anyway. It depends. No matter how much I want to get laid on a particular day, I have a rule that I won't approach a woman who is drunk or high. Forget the fact that she's more likely to be an STD infested whore. She can always cry rape, but if she's inebriated the chances of that happening shoot way up. Not worth it. Now if you're trying to hamster away the lack of self confidence to just be socia…
/r/TheRedPill07/02/17 07:21 PM
2

This is why I'll never understand the plight of the beta male. Why on earth would you sacrifice your life's work to pay for regular sex? When the woman you want to marry gave her pussy to various Chads for free, it's time to seriously reconsider what a gigantic loser you must be for even considering the prospect. Be the Chad who gets pussy for free-- don't be the skinnyfat dude who hamsters away marrying a slut.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/17 07:18 PM
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As an addendum, I'd like to advise people here to never compare yourself to other men-- it works against your own benefit when you see a finished "product" and put yourself down for it. Each day you build the body you want in the gym, be it going from a fatbody to chizzled abs or a scrawnybody to a dude who's shredded, you're doing all you can do to better yourself. Focus only on your own journey-- never put yourself down based on the accomplishments of others. You'll find yourself soaring highe…
/r/TheRedPill07/02/17 05:20 PM
4

Sure you can, but the amount of concomitant fat you gain with a dirty bulk makes it not worth it. Depending on how long and how bad you eat shit (with adequate protein), you'll be spending a good amount of time with the subsequent cut because of how much fat you accumulated. It's actually a horrible mistake a lot of people make when they equivocate bulking with eating whatever they want.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/17 04:41 AM
1

Where would you recommend a basic step cook book or guide You don't need a cook book nowadays. Youtube is full of healthy recipes. I can't link the subreddits here, but eatcheapandhealthy is a good subreddit to look at, as is mealprepsunday. Google is your friend, in any case, since different people have different likes when it comes to the stuff they need to eat. Make sure you're getting enough protein.
/r/TheRedPill06/02/17 10:35 PM
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I felt this for the first time in my life back in college when I lost over 100 pounds. I can't put into words how amazing it felt to be liked by a woman because I took care of my body. All those years of scarfing down delicious unhealthy shit were never worth it-- a few seconds of a dopamine high due to low self control as opposed to the constant sexual attention you get from women, not to mention that people treat you with more respect, is a shitty trade. It's crazy because the guys who don't l…
/r/TheRedPill06/02/17 09:45 PM
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I feel that too many people ignore the importance of proper diet along with exercise. You can lift your balls off or run til you're huffing and puffing, but if your diet is shit, then you have nothing to look forward to in terms of results. Proper exercise with diet is genuinely amazing when you see it for the first time. You're able to move more fluidly before, your quality of life goes up in ways that you haven't experienced before, and most importantly, you realize that you've put aside the f…
/r/TheRedPill06/02/17 09:34 PM
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He was also incredibly rich and powerful from birth thanks to his dad, and was bailed out multiple times. Some people are dealt great hands from birth-- he was one of them. In any case, he's not the RP messiah that some donald fanboys here think that he is. He's a fat dude who has 2 exes and a 3rd woman all of whom were golddiggers
/r/TheRedPill03/02/17 02:59 AM
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ATTRACTION makes sex good. Bingo. If her pussy is wet when she sees your picture/face+body, then you've won 90% game. She'll be positively predisposed to everything you say. Don't think about the act too much, just have fun with it and remember that this is the fruit of your hard work.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/17 08:17 PM
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An ass-beating would be a great prescription for them too, if you can get away with it. Remember, we're dealing with little bitches here, not men-- you treat them like you would a woman. Beating their asses to the ground is easy, but it would be breaking frame, and possibly putting yourself in a criminal position. Better to hold frame and let them suffer in silence. Trust me, these types of people have no real friends, and usually no women in their lives unless they're married (to a post-wall sl…
/r/TheRedPill02/02/17 08:15 PM
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You say that nonchalantly here, but you have to remember that (2) "whiteknights" include the law. When you can be put in cuffs or a coffin, on total bullshit, you might not be so lighthearted about these scenarios.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/17 05:02 PM
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Lol dude, sorry to burst your bubble, but Filipinas are some of the worst, most hypergamous and golddigging women around. Make sure you aren't getting played for a citizenship scam or something of that nature.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/17 04:59 PM
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Men shouldn't expect true loyalty from women, only from other men. This is why it hurts so much more when people you called your friends betray you.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/17 04:57 PM
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Great post. I'll also add that you should see it as a positive sign that people begin to shit test you... it means you're improving and the gains have become noticeable. I still get this from some acquaintances, though nothing was as bad as when I first lost weight in college. I lost over 100 pounds over the course of 1.5 years, I think, and during the entirety of that time I had "friends" and family members putting me down, but in a subtle way. They wouldn't outright say "stop going to the gym,…
/r/TheRedPill01/02/17 04:56 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again about betas: If it walks, talks, and acts like a bitch, it's probably a bitch. These pathetic children don't deserve to be called men.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/17 04:53 PM
1

Yeah sorry to pop your bubble buddy, but Trump is a horrible example for this particular analogy. The people who support his anti-left, fascist sentiment, however, are a good example of this. Marginalized but quickly gaining footing because they are, indeed, the "silent" majority.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/17 01:40 AM
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Great work losing your weight-- I started out a little heavier than you did when I lost my weight a couple of years ago, and let me tell you, when you ditch that fat, the treatment you get is night and day. You really get to see the principles of RP in action when the time comes-- you go from the fat loser who gets ignored to a guy who has women eyefucking and flirting with him constantly. Just be sure to buy new well-fitting clothes, and to up your grooming (haircut, well kempt facial hair).
/r/TheRedPill01/02/17 01:38 AM
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It certainly isn't as hard as it is made out to be. Chances are, statistically, that if you're a young male in the west, you're probably overweight. Half a year of dieting at a slight daily caloric deficit will get you to your fitness goals if you have the balls to stick to it. But instead we have nonsense shortcuts and male rationalizations for being fat. The best example of the latter is male feminism- "women will love you for who you are!" Except when they find out that she's getting pussy pl…
/r/TheRedPill30/01/17 08:23 PM
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I completely agree with the spirit of what you're saying. You want to come off as professional and friendly in a professional environment to better your social image. In a social setting, you want to come off as amicable, but being a pansy who never takes the initiative will land you with deadbeat friends and no pussy at the end of the day. Seldom apologizing is one of the best lessons I've learned from TRP. I was one of those people who had "sorry" built into his vocabulary, but I changed that.…
/r/TheRedPill30/01/17 08:21 PM
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Good luck encouraging said fat/scrawnybods-- they're probably male feminists lol
/r/TheRedPill30/01/17 08:18 PM
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You need a lot more than fifteen minutes if you're a fat or scrawny sexless loser with no physical standards
/r/TheRedPill30/01/17 07:00 PM
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I'd like to say something here-- you might not even enjoy parts of the road to the finish line. There are some things in life that you have to do that are outright painful, but they pay off in dividends later. Developing the discipline and routine to consistently do these painful things is the hard part. Get over that hump, and you'll find yourself making good habits that lead to an overall happier life. Fitness is by far the best example of this, especially if you're starting out as overweight/…
/r/TheRedPill30/01/17 09:38 AM
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Ever since I changed my lifestyle completely (used to be a fat beta bitch), I've noticed some things about the nature of addiction in modern western society: We constantly look for things to help the "now"-- immediacy is the name of the game. Feeling hungry and want something tasty? Eat junk. Feeling peckish? Fuck your diet, calories and macros, grab some unhealthy shit from the pantry. Feeling horny? Lock the door and beat up the bishop while looking at pornography. Feeling sad because you're a…
/r/TheRedPill30/01/17 07:38 AM
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But do I go to the backwoods of Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia to a biker's hangout and pull up in my low rider for a drink? This is actually funny because I was on a road trip with my boys, one of whom is brown, and the number of dirty looks he got when we walked into a white backwoods bar for directions was astounding. He decided to sit in the car for the remainder of time that we were there. Always have context.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/17 12:14 AM
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You dress to attract a certain type of woman; a fuckbuddy who just hit 18 generally won't be as turned on by a sharply dressed guy as a dude who dresses like a basketball/football star. But whatever the case, as long as you have a good physique and can manage to show it off, your odds of getting pussy increase dramatically.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/17 01:56 AM
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If there's one lesson I've learned from the antics of my mom and my sister, it's that you don't leave major financial purchases in the hands of women. They will find some way to fuck it up or make a horrible decision that you, will end up paying for down the line. Sounds like your biggest mistake was validating her hamsteresque drama by engaging in it. TRP isn't wrong when it advocates dread- silence and treating your woman like shit when she is out of line keep her within her boundaries.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/17 01:54 AM
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How the fuck do you just straight up negate a written and consented contract over somone's hurt feelings? That's fucking retarded. Welcome to our misandrist society in 2017.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/17 05:19 AM
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I'm enjoying my life because of my efforts in the gym-- no need to feel sorry; the fact of the matter is, if you're OK with being a skinnyfat or scrawny dude who gets ignored by women, then by all means, avoid the gym and like the rest of the beta losers who need to marry women.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/17 06:14 AM
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Why go to the gym if you don't like it? I don't like going to the gym, never have, but I go there because there's no other way to get the body I want other than hammering away at the weights. Women don't "see through the facade." Sorry to break it to you, but all they see are Chad's jawline, shoulders, abs, and biceps.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/17 04:53 AM
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You don't need to "agree," it's just a fact. If you do not lift or stimulate your muscles, along with proper nutrition (protein macros especially), you will lose muscle mass. "Toning" has nothing to do your muscles; it has to do with losing bodyfat to make your muscles more noticeable. Lifting twice or three times a week is fine for a beginner as long as you're cutting and hitting all of the major muscle groups. If you're fat, losing the fat is the major priority, and more cardio is good to that…
/r/TheRedPill25/01/17 04:51 AM
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Discipline and the bare minimum is all you need to better yourself. You're absolutely correct; unfortunately the fitness industry has been monetized to give this illusion that you need a load of bullshit to get fit (get a trainer! pay a ton of money for a "good gym!" get a load of supplements you don't need! etc.) Discipline and the knowledge of what to eat are what you need. I pay a little over $20/month for my gym membership, and it has paid off in dividends in the past 5 years alone.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/17 04:49 AM
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You don't need to dedicate a decade of your life to one particular aspect of your life. I'm in my mid 20's working towards a very lucrative career, I lift and diet regularly, and I hope to raise a family by my late 20's or early 30's. I don't plan on changing my physical regimen as I age-- that's just a recipe for failure.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/17 04:47 AM
1

It's also very good for your lungs, doubly so if you have asthma, and more importantly for your heart. People who skip cardio just to lift all the time are shooting themselves in the foot. Bulking is not an excuse to skip it; you estimate the calories burned and account for it in your calories consumed.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/17 04:45 AM
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If a hooker charged $50k a day, he could have her for over 54 years for a price tag of $1 billion. No woman is worth that amount, but I'm willing to bet that any woman that charges over $5k a day will look better than Amber Heard or his ex.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/17 04:41 AM
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Eh. It doesn't matter as long as he gets a prenup. Sorry to shatter this illusion for you, but prenups are far from iron-clad. Pretty sure that judges regularly overturn some of them to favor the woman.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/17 04:38 AM
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This is specious, but patently false. Women are sleeping with alphas because betas are gross-- this is undeniable. But to assert that women these days know how to cook, clean, properly rear their children, and please their man (much less be virgins for them) is hilariously false regarding modern women.
/r/TheRedPill24/01/17 05:40 AM
1

He holds himself to no value, he's useless and has no value to his peers. I've known people like this in my life. If you wholeheartedly tried to help them, and they failed, drop them and never look back. It'll be healthier for you, and you'll get to watch them destroy themselves because they were too stubborn or arrogant to change their ways.
/r/TheRedPill23/01/17 07:59 PM
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But.... but... muh feminism says that you should take out the trash for m'lady while she bones Chad or posts instagram photos of herself!
/r/TheRedPill23/01/17 07:58 PM
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A mans intervention in the process should be near mythic in proportion, Eg. "Wait till your father gets home." Very well said. I'm proud to have been raised by two RP parents who knew their roles. Don't get me wrong, my mom would discipline us, but our dad was the true authority in the house. Taught me things that make me stand out today from the crowd of overweight/scrawny beta male faggots who never had an ounce of discipline during their youth.
/r/TheRedPill23/01/17 07:57 PM
1

It always warms my heart to see the subs increasing little by little. New subs just have to be a little less impatient and read the sidebar more-- it's like cracking into a textbook for the first time. Daunting, but once you get the hang of it, it feels good to learn.
/r/TheRedPill23/01/17 07:55 PM
11

Frank Raynolds is a TRP goldmine I'd say that a cuck who raised two of Chad's bastards is far from a TRP goldmine.
/r/TheRedPill23/01/17 07:53 PM
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It's okay that she hurt you bro. It's always cute how overweight/scrawny manginas like to use this line in addition to "you're bitter." It pretty much screams to the world that "I'm a beta male feminist who wants to shame people who don't believe the same things that I do!" While you're twiddling your mantits figuring out why she cheated on you, we'll be sleeping with the women you put on a pedestal. Enjoy your sloppy 26th's.
/r/TheRedPill23/01/17 01:28 AM
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This is the benefit of living in a feminist society. An ounce of discipline in your lifestyle when it comes to the gym/diet, and game, means that you can sleep with these easy women without having to give your lifeblood up for sex like these betas do. I know that the two married women that I've slept with in the past did not do the things we did together with their husbands. Betas revile their hindbrains, and for good reason.
/r/TheRedPill23/01/17 01:25 AM
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This is why I advise guys to be cautious when it comes to online dating/hookups-- only use texting strictly for logistics. Remember, she's not like your male friends- more often than not, she lacks the same imperative as your male friends do, not to mention she is seldom able to empathize with your position. Every silly text you send weakens her idea of you. You have to physically work your allure, not build it up through letters on a screen.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/17 06:37 AM
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This is a pretty old "joke," actually, and it has always been an apt observation of what most women want from beta males. As always, you can be the guy that gets to have sex with multiple women, for free, during their prime, or you can be that overweight or scrawny loser who can't control his passions, and needs to settle for a post-wall hag in order to get occasional starfish sex.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/17 06:34 AM
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You bring up an important point-- if you see a woman whose family is effectively run by women (pussy beta bitch father, or a woman who does not have a strong RP father figure in her life), run and never look back, unless you're simply in it for a quick lay. One of my close relatives made the mistake of marrying one such woman (who he married post-wall and she looks like she came off the carousel)-- I'm counting down the days before the divorce notice comes in.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/17 03:40 AM
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There are a few things you can do to help yourself: Develop a good routine- you probably have to wake up early for school anyways; try to go for a short run or make a trip to the gym if you can before school. At the very least meditate. Take school seriously- high school, at least in the US, isn't a joke. Start working on your GPA ASAP and prepare for whatever standardized tests you need to take. Seriously-- don't dick around here, because the college you might want to go to will depend on how y…
/r/TheRedPill20/01/17 04:51 PM
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NY is great for a quick lay-- if you lift regularly the amount of poon that's available to you is amazing.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/17 12:51 AM
1

A lot of people have very poor sleeping habits. I've noticed that once you set the record straight and have a good routine, it's easy to get 8-10 good hours of sleep. The people who make excuses like "I have muh insomnia, muh work, muh studying, etc." just manage their time poorly in most cases. Get your priorities straight and your sleep schedule falls into place-- it also helps in other aspects of life. On weekdays I'm usually too tired to do anything (and I mean anything-- sex, eat, etc.) by …
/r/TheRedPill19/01/17 11:43 PM
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You can track the rise of feminism and decline of masculinity by how high the casualty rates for the men were. France, which is a liberal's wet dream, was absolutely destroyed. England lost a lot, but not as much. Consequently it too succumbed to feminism and liberalism, but not as quickly. America, which was largely spared the wholesale loss of it's 19-28 year old both times, managed to hold out 60 more years. This sounds very interesting, but could you give some insight on Russia? While it's n…
/r/TheRedPill19/01/17 11:29 PM
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I've wrapped it up for my past 22 girls, save a few occasions, and I've gotten by fine. I eventually do want kids and don't feel that feminism is a good enough reason to snip my nuts.
/r/TheRedPill18/01/17 06:47 PM
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Of course our health care is expensive in the US, people are fucking fat and unhealthy and don't want to put in the work to be better. In medical school now, and I can wholeheartedly say that the problem also has to do with douchebag physicians looking to make a quick buck by prescribing unnecessary meds (for which they get kickbacks from pharm reps), or charging for unnecessary visits/treatments. Unfortunately, when it comes to the "politics" of medicine, physicians in the US like to act as tho…
/r/TheRedPill17/01/17 01:45 AM
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The political merits of the ACA or Trump or Obama have nothing to do with TRP, which is about learnjng to assert ourselves sexually and to stand up for the masculine in today's society. This is important. I don't give a flying fuck about politics in terms of TRP unless it's pertinent to showing the feminist/SJW establishment in some way. This is why I simply don't get people who act as though Trump is some RP messiah-- he really isn't, for multiple reasons.
/r/TheRedPill17/01/17 01:43 AM
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they will try to tie down a man of much less quality than the ones they rejected years ago. The sad part is that given the number of cucks in society as of late, she'll have her pick of the crop.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/17 06:00 AM
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All are lies. No they're not-- TRP likes to keep the theory amoral, but silly assertions like this do not fly for many people (including myself) who don't see this as bullshit. It's all a part of the game of life; I don't see evil as a condemnation on things that are important to me such as morals. I still know that I am a good person; my goal for becoming a doctor and businessman in life is to solely help people in need, both on a medical and financial level. Nothing has deterred me from this--…
/r/TheRedPill16/01/17 05:58 AM
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Learn to let go and live life; what you're experiencing is a common issue when your head is too far into TRP and the gynocentric society we live in. Understand one thing: the society we live in won't change anytime soon. Live your life for you-- take care of your health, fuck numerous women, have fun, and work hard. Shit like feminism and sluts being sluts becomes more of a background theme than an issue in your life. "The storms come and go, the big fish eat the little fish, but I keep on paddl…
/r/TheRedPill16/01/17 05:54 AM
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Somehow I too accepted that men are inherently worthless and disposable Inherently, yes, but the great thing about this is that we shape our own lives-- not like women where our youth and fertility bring us an easy life. You can be that fucking nobody who flips burgers for a living/works some shitty office job, faps to porn daily, plays video games all day, eats junk food, etc. or you can be the guy who is wealthy, fit, attractive, charming, and swims in poon. We all must make our choices on a d…
/r/TheRedPill16/01/17 05:51 AM
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good sir The use of this alone spells out to the world "I'm a neckbeard." Ditch this sort of nonsense
/r/TheRedPill16/01/17 05:47 AM
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Never been with a Paki girl before; what're they like (aside from the hairy cunts)
/r/TheRedPill16/01/17 05:46 AM
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That's not a paradox if it's not referring to the same girl, that's just a man wanting to have sex versus a man who wants to be with a woman who isn't a gigantic whore unable to pair bond.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/17 05:44 AM
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