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Conversationvesieco/r/seduction27/03/25 04:55 PM
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Conversationvesieco/r/seduction12/02/24 05:44 PM
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Yeah those are the only times I’ve ever paid for an Uber
/r/seduction24/07/26 03:35 PM
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I remember having the same thought as you when a girl asked me to do that. I declined to pay for her ride
/r/seduction24/07/26 03:34 PM
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I’m not here to try and convince you. Most of the questions you just asked in your comment were already answered above. Social skills and “game” definitely matter to an extent, I never denied that. But the BP is still very present and I acknowledge the truths associated with it. You were originally asking about couples out in public and their sometimes mismatched looks level. And fact of the matter is is that there’s a lot of harsh truths often associated when it comes to the context of these co…
/r/seduction07/07/26 01:45 PM
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The BP is objectively to do with raw attraction, not the choosing aspect. A woman who technically “chooses” to be with you due to reasons of wanting to settle down, relationship security, money, status, etc. is doing so because of the things you are providing to compensate, not due to raw physical attraction. This is almost akin to a soft form of prostitution, where if you didn’t have that money/status/stability, she wouldn’t be with that guy. And if she wouldn’t be with him if he didn’t have th…
/r/seduction07/07/26 10:38 AM
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The blackpill to my understanding is more nuanced than that. It has more to do with desire and attraction, rather than strictly the “choosing” aspect. Like I mentioned, there are a number of practical reasons a woman might choose to be in a relationship with a guy, but that doesn’t necessarily mean she’s truly attracted to him. To respond to your point, it’s precisely because women have so many options with dating apps/social media and whatnot that many (not all) fall into a relationship with a …
/r/seduction07/07/26 09:20 AM
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I am overall against the blackpill and the mindset that comes along with it, but with that said I still recognize the truths of it and don’t bury my head in the sand. As for the couples you see outside, you don’t necessarily know the context of their relationship. Sure they might be together and she might be slightly more attractive than him, but you don’t know what their relationship dynamic is like. One of the most common dynamics I see all the time when the girl is more attractive than the gu…
/r/seduction07/07/26 08:24 AM
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That’s not controversial
/r/seduction02/07/26 05:54 AM
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Very true, I caught onto this pretty quickly when I started cold approaching. I’d say 90% of the time if she suggests her IG after asking for the number it’s a soft rejection
/r/seduction01/07/26 09:21 AM
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Go to the city. I pushed myself to learn cold approach in Toronto and had some great results
/r/seduction06/06/26 11:31 AM
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“Integrity tax”, I like that. I agree
/r/seduction29/05/26 06:17 AM
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I disagree. Nothing wrong with approaching and giving a simple compliment, whether it’s about her style or just calling her cute. It’s worked perfectly fine for me in the past and I’ve met numerous women that way. I’d argue that you should compliment her. It’s a way of stating your intention right off the bat and letting her know why you’re talking to her. Not being direct with your intentions would actually be disingenuous, if anything.
/r/seduction21/05/26 07:41 AM
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Same shit different smell. How about just using everything? Including meeting IRL which is how I’ve met some of the best women I dated
/r/seduction07/05/26 01:21 PM
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It’s not extremely important, but important for sure. Having your own place preferably downtown where you can smoothly escalate and bring girls over is going to make getting laid a hell of a lot easier than having to drive back to the burbs every time
/r/seduction07/04/26 01:16 PM
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I had a similar streak and can confirm most of this is true and doable, though the only one I don’t relate to is most girls coming straight over. Maybe we’re in different cities, but most women where I am usually don’t go straight to a guy’s place. You can even actually lose out on a lot of girls by suggesting that. The only ones that did was when the girl brought it up first and wanted to come over. With that said, the dates are pretty much always at a spot right nearby my place and are very ch…
/r/seduction06/02/26 06:24 PM
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Not if you're white
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:20 PM
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It's about having the balls to go for what you want
/r/seduction23/01/26 06:44 PM
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Facts
/r/seduction23/01/26 06:29 PM
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By stopped "chasing" do you mean you stopped initiating? Chasing is when you keep pursuing a girl who's not that into you and isn't reciprocating your efforts. As far as initiating's concerned, there's nothing wrong with approaching women and taking action rather than waiting for some select girls to make the first move on you.
/r/seduction04/12/25 11:24 PM
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You get better through experience and learning what works. But honestly in your case I think you’d benefit a lot by just talking and meeting girls in real life as opposed to apps
/r/seduction26/11/25 07:52 PM
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Nothing good comes easy. If you want to keep coping and scraping dates off apps every now and then, than by all means do so
/r/seduction14/11/25 05:17 PM
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Nobody's lecturing you, we're just telling you. You make it more bearable by actually going outside and having the balls to talk to girls without your phone
/r/seduction14/11/25 02:09 AM
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How many times are you going to make the same pity party posts wanting people to coddle you? You need to have some agency and get out of your comfort zone. Getting girls through apps is all you know because that’s all you’ve done. Put yourself into uncomfortable situations, start conversations with women, go out more, socialize. Women are everywhere.
/r/seduction13/11/25 07:19 PM
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If you don’t want any advice from people who can meet girls off apps, then why are you even posting here? This isn’t a venting subreddit to get coddled. The reality is, is that you need to get out of your comfort zone. Getting girls through apps is all you know because that’s all you’ve done. Put yourself into uncomfortable situations, start conversations with women, go out more, socialize. Women are everywhere.
/r/seduction03/11/25 04:00 AM
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I don't list my job at all
/r/seduction23/10/25 04:52 PM
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You have to at least talk to her a bit and have a little conversation before you go for the number
/r/seduction15/10/25 09:16 PM
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Dude just go outside and talk to girls, what are you talking about lmao. Also I wouldn't want women to be interested in me due to my line of work/clout, that's not genuine attraction imo
/r/seduction19/09/25 05:58 PM
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Personally I've always preferred weekdays, but it doesn't really matter that much overall
/r/seduction11/09/25 04:03 PM
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Why get to know a girl through text, have you not met her in person? I try not to text much and set up a date asap
/r/seduction18/08/25 07:45 PM
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I don’t go to bars typically. Went on a date recently where we got ice cream and found a place to sit and talk. Very cheap and perfect due to the heatwave recently
/r/seduction15/08/25 05:46 AM
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Gotta go for cheaper low pressure dates. I try to spend max $20 CAD on dates especially the first few with a girl, and even then some offer to split
/r/seduction15/08/25 04:45 AM
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Before even the first date?, that does sound like investing a lot lol. I usually sleep with a girl on the first or second date without doing all that. The thing I struggle with is keeping them in a casual rotation for long periods of time
/r/seduction20/06/25 08:32 PM
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It’s happened quite a few times where she pulls away after a few dates and I let her do so, I don’t chase and often they completely disappear. Only sometimes do they come back and we carry on as normal
/r/seduction20/06/25 05:25 PM
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How would you “love bomb” in this case without investing much?
/r/seduction20/06/25 05:23 PM
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I mean there's definitely a middle ground. Obviously don't go to some expensive restaurant but there's nothing wrong with getting a burger or slice of pizza, etc. I've had success getting those cheap type meals and the total cost is typically less than $20.
/r/seduction24/05/25 08:17 PM
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Idk there's something odd and sad about that. In my experience the women I met in person were (almost) always higher quality and led to better relationships, even if casual. If you've only ever met through apps there are probably some things you gotta work on in person, because you are spiritually still a virgin
/r/seduction24/05/25 08:10 PM
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If she wants to be with you, she’ll be with you
/r/seduction15/05/25 08:09 PM
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I agree with you. If a man or woman decline an offer for a date for whatever reason, without offering any alternative date/time/plans some other time, they’re not interested
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 06:00 PM
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If you want the unfiltered truth, if we’re sleeping together regularly then I don’t mind
/r/seduction03/05/25 04:58 AM
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Bro just go outside and talk to women lmao. Not rocket science
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:18 PM
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Every girl I've dated that was on the pill always had a lower libido, kind of a tradeoff I guess
/r/seduction14/04/25 02:46 PM
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Talk normally man. This is too much and sounds very unnatural
/r/seduction11/04/25 04:49 AM
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Being social and having the boldness and confidence to talk to a woman is not pathetic. Being a passive coward afraid to interact with the world around you is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:27 PM
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As a man I refuse to live in such a passive and pathetic state and will continue to approach women. I've had some great experiences from women I've met that would've never happened if I didn't have the balls to talk to her, if you want to keep cutting the competition by making harmful posts like these then it'll only benefit those who go after what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:09 PM
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I meet women regularly through cold approach, dating apps, and in general just putting myself out there. All of which require taking action and approaching (except apps I guess). Your vague generic post about hundreds of women apparently flocking to you does no one any good, especially to those who might be struggling to even meet a single girl
/r/seduction30/03/25 08:35 PM
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Yeah, you wrote a vague nothingburger post with generic advice. And you’re wondering why anyone would question it?
/r/seduction30/03/25 06:12 PM
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So 150+ women just flocked to you? Alright bro
/r/seduction30/03/25 03:27 PM
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Just approach. It’s that simple. Things can go well, or you could get rejected. Allow yourself to bomb and if that happens it’s ok, everything is a learning experience.
/r/seduction29/03/25 11:16 PM
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Thing is some do stick around, right now I’ve been seeing 3 girls regularly for months. A lot don’t stick around though, which is why I’m wondering how to convert most girl I meet to longlasting FWB type relationships.
/r/seduction27/03/25 11:55 PM
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Usually it takes a bit of time to develop an emotional connection, how can I develop one if I see them a few times
/r/seduction27/03/25 11:52 PM
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When it rains it pours
/r/seduction27/03/25 05:31 PM
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You know what you’re not wrong. Though with that said even if I’m sleeping with a girl we still go out for dates and hangout for hours, I enjoy spending time with then so it’s not like I treat them strictly like a booty call ya know? I’m just not a big texter but I guess I should do more of that.
/r/seduction27/03/25 05:04 PM
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Took a couple tries before I got the coffee shop number haha. Though one glitch that's happening is that the responses take longer to appear the longer the conversation goes on, overall this is pretty class I love it
/r/seduction25/03/25 06:59 PM
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Some might disagree with me, but I'd leave the ball in her court/let her go. If she comes back, cool, if not that's fine as well. In my past dating experience if there's one thing I've learned it's that if she wants to be with you, she'll be with you. Always more fish in the sea, go talk to other girls that'll give you the same reciprocation and enthusiasm back.
/r/seduction15/03/25 05:33 PM
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As a guy pretty successful with dating apps and able to get dates regularly, I’ll still say the apps suck. In my experience the women you meet from apps are always gonna be far more flakier, ghost more often, treat you as disposable, and not as high quality in general compared to the women you meet through cold approach/other avenues.
/r/seduction10/03/25 01:57 AM
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The answer is simple - keep her as casual and continue cold approaching. I've missed out on some pretty great girls I didn't want to commit to, but the reality is is that I just haven't gotten things out of my system yet. I'm not sure I'd want to fully commit to a relationship having my feelings similar to yours right now.
/r/seduction26/02/25 03:31 PM
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As someone else said, a combination of 1 and 3. You don’t have to get a necessarily expensive flat right in the city, especially if it’s gonna eat a lot of your budget. But with that said having your own place is gonna be a huge advantage for your dating life, not to mention privacy and being independent.
/r/seduction25/02/25 09:48 PM
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Absolutely not. I’d never want to be with anybody who “settled” or lowered their standards for me. I want to be with someone who’s just as into me as I’m into them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:24 PM
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I completely agree with this. Although with that said I have no problem "pursuing", which means making the initial moves with a girl I'm interested in. The problem of "chasing" arises is when I'm not getting any reciprocation and effort back from her. I made a post in the dating subreddit last week about something like this I recently experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:24 PM
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This is class, great work
/r/seduction11/02/25 05:54 AM
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Not all women are like this, and not all relationships are like this. Although with that said this is a scenario that definitely happens and is not all that uncommon and I've personally seen it play out with a few people in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:01 PM
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Yes, and yes. Although always a cheap first date
/r/seduction08/01/25 09:18 PM
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If they didn’t have drugs, would they still have the same pull? From what I’ve witnessed a lot of the relationships they have are transactional
/r/seduction23/12/24 12:14 AM
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For some reason, women who work in business/working professional office workers. I'm not exactly sure why, I love to talk a lot and have deeper conversations, about a wide array of topics. Overall though the most interesting I've been with was a mortician
/r/seduction09/12/24 06:40 PM
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4, although at that point it felt exhausting and almost like a part time job
/r/seduction04/12/24 04:03 PM
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“Appreciate you being up front. All the best”
/r/seduction20/11/24 07:08 PM
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Not counting dating apps, about 2 hours. I cold approached her on the street and we ended up going on an instant date then and there. After getting a little snack I invited her to my apartment nearby and physically escalated, and the rest is history. In terms of online dating, I got laid in about half an hour maybe even less after meeting a girl from a dating app, though there wasn't much "seduction" done in that case lol
/r/seduction04/11/24 10:40 PM
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It’s happened to me a handful of times, although not super common. I’ve had a few girls invite me straight over and some want to come over after some chatting. Although like I said it doesn’t happen often, and for most girls I see we at least go on a date first
/r/seduction26/09/24 11:33 PM
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Have had only a Tinder account for over 1 year now. Still never reset it but gone through a couple periods where I didn't use it for a few weeks. Still get likes on a regular basis although not as many as the beginning. Compared to when I registered I got flooded with likes within the first month, now only a couple a day if I'm actively using it. I'm not paying anything for it either. I think if your profile is solid and you're an active user your account is gonna be pushed out, just maybe not a…
/r/seduction07/09/24 04:53 PM
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It's time for you to have some reciprocation, or else it just looks like you're not interested. Nobody wants to have to reach out every time
/r/seduction27/08/24 02:53 AM
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Hahaha keep coping, I'm sure you'll live a happy life with that attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:31 PM
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I’ve gotten quite a few results, believe it or not many women are attracted to a bold guy who has the confidence to simply give a compliment and start socializing. But you wouldn’t know about that. You’d rather never take any chances and instead make these harmful posts that keep 99% of men afraid of socializing with women. Pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:23 PM
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Don’t do it then, keep coping and hiding. Leave the opportunities for us who have the balls to approach
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:41 AM
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4-5. After that it starts getting overwhelming and exhausting. The most I’ve done was 8 and dating felt like a part time job at that point
/r/seduction22/05/24 02:31 PM
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There is no better time to cold approach than in 2024. I’ve managed to have some great experiences through cold approaching and recently even got an active FWB I met at the mall of all places lol. What you need to realize is nearly all guys are hiding behind a screen swiping on apps nowadays and DMing girls on instagram. Now there’s nothing wrong with using apps. I still meet girls through them but I don’t ever need to rely on them since I try meet mainly through social avenues and cold approach…
/r/seduction11/05/24 04:21 PM
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I agree with all this, not sure why you got downvoted. There really is no better time to cold approach than in 2024 but this guy’s specific approach looks really uncalibrated
/r/seduction11/05/24 04:07 PM
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If a girl really likes you she'll make things easy for you, there's definitely a chance she's talking to other guys considering you met on Tinder. You should be going out with other girls and not put all your eggs in one basket since you sound very invested after only meeting with her once. At this point let her try to initiate plans with you the ball's in her court.
/r/seduction04/05/24 09:40 PM
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I put “short term, open to long”. I believe this one is the best for casting the widest net of girl while also leaning more towards short term (which I would prefer)
/r/seduction26/02/24 11:27 PM
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A little over a month. No I haven't had that conversation with her, I usually always let the girl bring up that topic and then I'm completely honest with them. I'd assume she might think I'm not too serious since we barely text aside from making plans
/r/seduction12/02/24 09:21 PM
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Dinner dates don’t have to be expensive. I usually like going to cheaper type restaurants and typically spend $20 CAD per date
/r/seduction04/02/24 05:27 PM
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Well there you go you answered your own question. As for the guys dating these kinds of girls, most guys are desperate and don't have many options and will take any girl who's somewhat pretty that comes their way and put up with them no matter how many red flags there are
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:30 PM
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For some reason I have a feeling a lot of the women you're describing are in small towns and small cities. I live downtown in the heart of one of the biggest cities in NA and rarely do I run into these types of women. The women I meet are students, ones that have their career in the city, women on vacation, immigrants, and young adults working part time. In short, women who actually have something going for them in their lives. I rarely leave downtown and something tells me the women you describ…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:08 PM
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Great post, saving this.
/r/seduction20/12/19 07:12 PM
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[email protected] Thanks a lot!!
/r/seduction11/12/19 07:16 PM
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