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I mean. A lot of men do require you to manage their emotions for them because they cannot do it themselves. Maybe this was just in my fucked up family and culture but the men have tempers and they think psychology is bullshit. What this ends up becoming is their wives have to smooth over edges, put up with them raging, walking on eggshells when they are in a bad mood. Acting as therapists, putting up with repeated 'it's not what you said it's how you said it' etc. The guys basically hand over th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 06:32 PM
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There is no viable alternative to capitalism, yes it has downfalls that I wish were not there but so far it's the best we've got. We have days off, holidays, extra time, the ability to save for our old age, healthcare, social safety nets, stability, if resources were infinite we could have set up a utopia but they are not and we have to work for them unless we want to go the way of Argentina. Families have kind of a functional trust-based communism within their units but it cannot be extended to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 06:20 PM
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Oh god that is awful, it happened to me too. I once had a guy tell me he loves me and call me his girlfriend after months of seeing each other, I asked him 'so I'm your girlfriend? :)' and he said I was 'pressuring him' and to 'just enjoy the moment without labels' and 'it was just a matter of speech' 'just enjoy and go with the flow', he was trying to play it off like I was crazy when I asked him why did he call me his girlfriend multiple times by that point if he is unwilling to consider me hi…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/10/20 02:38 AM
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Ugh. There is a reason only LVM speak this way. HVM usually have other areas in their lives that are sources of pride for them, whereas for LVM their plan is to trick some poor woman who is in for a miserable experience into catering to his ego.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/10/20 09:51 PM
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Society also devalues stay-at-home moms. How often did men make fun of women calling them dishwashers? The labour that SAHMs do is not counted or valued. Society is infinitely more interested in someone who works as a NASA engineer than someone who spends all day running after 3 children, that's something people respond to and change their life trajectory for. It affects the quality of mate you can get as a woman, it's just a fact idk. I wouldn't have gotten my current fiance if I was a cashier …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 09:30 PM
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In developed nations, most families have 2-3 kids because they cost a lot. In other places they have more as insurance policies. Because the children do the manual labour that sustain them. Having two kids is doable, I know plenty of women who work and raise two children too. The point is if all things are equal and you can pick a 9 who makes no money, and a 9 that can contribute to household expenses, it's a no brainer. In fact many men would pick a 8, a 7, or even a 6 who can contribute and ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 09:28 PM
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But I don't think it's necessary to have a degree or career, there are plenty of women who have neither career, degree, or looks and have a HVM, I just think if you happen to have the holy trifecta of career, education and looks you're better off than someone with less than that. Unless they're professional models.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 02:16 AM
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This is another problem women have, if they're attractive a lot of men will date them in a STR with no plan to marry them, women generally don't do this to guys because they're on a tighter timeline. I have this friend who looks like a supermodel, seriously gorgeous. But she works a minimum wage job and isn't really working to improve that, and she has a bit of an entitled attitude because she knows how pretty she is and I don't think there's anything wrong with that because she truly makes whoe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 09:10 PM
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It's the 6 I'm more worried you misjudged, not the 9. Definitely not. The guy and the girl are both 6's. Maybe 7's if they both try to look nice. She's also significantly less attractive than the girls he dated "for fun" earlier. But she has a family that's as wealthy as his and she has the same kind of lifestyle/social circle/disposable income/education as him. Lots of guys want to travel with partners but they don't want to be stuck paying the whole bill, they want to buy a house but again don…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 09:05 PM
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but women are terrible with judging attractiveness. No they were objective 9's, there's a huge difference between a 6 and a 9, 9's can make a living off of their appearances where 6's would get laughed out of the building for trying. Yes proximity but they can also swipe right on a 9 and have a LTR with her because she wants to start a family but they chose not to. Proximity does weigh into this, but if someone really only cared about appearance they would have married the 9 not the 6. Rich men …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 07:05 PM
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Oh I'm sure it does happen but I don't think it's the best way to lock down a high SMV man. Like I have some male friends who are considered high value, like they're really sociable, funny, men women seek out and also happen to have great careers. They all married their looksmatch and careermatch, I know it's not objective evidence but I would say they're like 6-7 I've seen them date 9s who have a lower status career than they do but they eventually settled on 6 careermatched women. I actually k…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 05:18 PM
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There is this passed around bit of information that if you want to lock down a doctor as a nurse, you have to really make him work for it because they tend to have a phase with nurses and marry doctors, same thing with lawyers and secretaries. These women are generally very insecure about this because they don't want to become another stereotype. Like sure, it's possible, it's a bit of a risk but it is possible, but the best way to lock down a doctor is to be a doctor yourself, that way he will …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 05:00 PM
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They do it's on such a small scale that it's negligible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 04:48 PM
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I mean TRP provides a weird narrative in my opinion, but it also leads you to value yourself, not simp over women who do not like you, and build up your own value which are in themselves all things that make you more attractive and less likely to lead you into a closed loop where you are chasing a woman who has shown you multiple times that she is not interested, I don't think the backdrop of TRP and sexism is necessary for that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 03:22 PM
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Well there is a subgroup of men who does this but they are often narcissistic and sexist types nobody can put up with. I know of one entire friend group that went this way and they treat their wives as bangmaids and have an entire creepy facebook about their subservience, it's weird, it is. I have another friend whose father went to a third world country to find his mother, he cheated on her and she put up with it because hey, at least she gets to live in the US, but it's screwed up. She left hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 03:01 PM
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A college degree is a status marker. If status and income weren't important for men, and all men cared about were young and attractive virgins there would be a pipeline of scouring villages for the most attractive ones and setting men up with them, men would be going to poorer countries to find a wife, it would be kind of fucked up. And there are mail-order brides but it's very seldom used.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 01:36 PM
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I agree with this, men and women get used differently. I would prefer to pay for a dinner date then never hear from the other party again than be lied to, sleep with them, and yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 01:33 PM
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You also see a lot of men feeling the same though. I don't think it's gender specific. They just won't dump their wives because of alimony but cheating was so mainstream that nobody raised an eyebrow at Marilyn Monroe and her affair with John F. Kennedy. Men having mistresses was baked into the mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 04:15 PM
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First off I'm sorry for what you went through, those guys are scum. I agree with what you said. I think feminism was co-opted by the men in power, they will churn out mainstream movies and music that portray casual sex , being someones sugar baby, pornography, and degrading yourself for the attention of a wealthy man as empowering, but when you see who it benefits it all makes sense. This online community is the only place where I don't feel gaslighted about it. Nicki Minaj was once asked about …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/10/20 12:28 PM
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Exactly, I feel like being a forever-girlfriend is embarrassing, for me at least. That's the pressure that I feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 06:04 PM
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When men go on OF they expect to be able to see women as sex objects, yet get offended when these women in turn see them as wallet objects, it's hypocrisy. If you want to be angry at both things, fine, but don't pretend like you are some paragon of virtue while looking to objectify women and being objectified in return. Most men raging at OF look up free porn that is often exploiting women in bad situations, not saying OF is much better, but it is a bit better because you can at least know this …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/10/20 09:52 PM
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Man it's not that. It's that women are often told that they shouldn't be shallow and materialistic and should love a guy for who he really is, which yes, fine. But then you find out the reason he says that is that he has a rotation of 5 girls going and he would go broke paying for all of their dinners. And the ex he kept bitching about how he took her to expensive dinners and she didn't appreciate him? He's still hung up on her and he's taking his bitterness out on you as a proxy. Or you see men…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 12:53 AM
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But then men compare us to photoshopped and sometimes surgically enhanced models with professional hair, makeup, lighting, and styling whose 40 hour a week job it is to look good.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/10/20 11:15 PM
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The same reason slavery is illegal? There are also fathers with daughters who don't want their highest achievement to be being some guys bangmaid and like the option of being able to date and marry accomplished women. Majority Islamic countries give women to the rich few and leave everyone else to die alone too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 02:41 PM
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Good riddance. I had something similar happen, I went on a nice first date with someone and the entire time he was mentioning how he will cook something for me on our second date. I'm thinking there is no way I'm going to this strangers house on our second date, he was really trying to sell it, asking me what ingredients he should buy, trying to convince me that he's a great cook when I pushed back, eventually I also did a block and delete.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/20 01:51 PM
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Yeah, if you get to know a man through the lens of dinner dates, and especially if you know some people he respects in his life, he is showing you his best side. You'll never know what he would be like if a woman approached him with no constraint on how he could treat them. That's what gets to me, I can date somebody perfectly nice and think yeah, but if I didn't insist on creating boundaries, make it clear I was out the door at the first sign of disrespect, would I get the same person? I doubt …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/20 01:37 PM
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I think there is novelty in new relationships, once that wears off many men are in a place where they are comfortable, they have someone who usually splits expenses 50/50, splits the chores, meets their sexual needs, and provides companionship. Even if they are no longer excited about their relationship, as long as he doesn't have to give up anything else, why would he leave? I don't think men maliciously plan this, they just get comfortable. That's why you should start things off on the right f…
/r/RedPillWomen01/10/20 11:54 PM
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I'm sorry you went through that, you deserve much better. You know, this is something that I've been wondering about seeing a partners character. For instance, the time men are most likely to become abusive is when you are pregnant with their child. Probably because you then become more dependent on them. So this dependence brings it out if it is already there. On here we say it's important to always have one foot out the door, meaning you can leave at any moment and your partner needs to know t…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 11:29 PM
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Men who say they don't care about a womans income or degree are typically low earning themselves and are annoyed that women who are more educated and higher earning than themselves filter them out of the dating pool. This competition claim is that men want to feel better than their partner, it's a red flag. Most people encourage their partners to succeed rather than be insecure about it. I've dated someone like this, it's not normal behaviour and will carry on to anything you do well. People who…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 02:51 PM
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Don't men do this too though? For some women they try to beckon them to come over to their place for netflix & chill, and ask them to buy a bottle of wine along the way, while for other women they pull out full stops and give them a dinner date, flowers, and the whole 9 yards?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 08:59 PM
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I'm sorry you've had bad experiences. The world can be harsh to dating newbies. I just, I don't know. Imagine if you have bad boundaries around something, and find you are healthier when you put those boundaries in place, it can be anything from a family who is draining your mental health, or a wife who enjoys spending your money too much, shouldn't you be allowed to do that? I get the other side of the argument where it feels like you're just being placated for the sake of providing bf benefits…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 06:06 AM
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But to be more specific, women want the completed product of a man and few would be okay with dating the man in progress. This is more than just surface-level though. I have personal experience with this because my first two boyfriends were roughly equal to me in terms of life. The first relationship ended because this girl who rejected him before saw me with him, got competitive and started pelting him with flirty attention, since this sort of thing never happened to him before and he did have …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 05:47 AM
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Well if a guy spends a lot of money on his ex-girlfriends but then learns that it doesn't necessarily work, should the girls who follow also feel that it doesn't seem right or fair and be bitter about it too?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 10:24 AM
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As much as TRP advocates certain 'green flags' for their relationships, men do not respect doormats.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 01:13 AM
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Isn't this notion of doing a calculus on exactly how much sex was exchanged for how much time and how much intensity sort of stupid though? I've never dated a guy and combed through his life calculating how much money and time he spend on an ex-girlfriend deciding it's a shit deal because he made me jump through x hoops for commitment and sacrificed less income percentage on me. Nobody does that. Also let's say a girl is a dumb but well-meaning doormat who lets say 3 guys walk all over her befor…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 01:11 AM
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Ugh I once dated a guy who prided himself on being a 'good guy' and he tried to talk into dropping out of my degree 1 year before finishing it and doing a trade school equivalent thing instead because he flunked out of the program I was doing.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/20 09:18 PM
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Relationships shouldn't make you feel this way. If you have children and you are skirting your responsibilities that's one thing, and there is compromise between two people who have a different set of needs but it generally doesn't have to be that bad, if it is gtfo because it will not get better. If a woman is looking to start a family with you it makes sense why she wouldn't want you to blow half your savings on a car though, I'm sure you would feel the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 11:37 PM
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I think blaming lack of dating success solely on women is a bit short-sighted. There are ugly dudes everywhere who are married. Who have girlfriends and are getting laid like tile. Everyone prefers an attractive partner. If you go on a sugar dating website you'll see the opposite trend, average men finding dates with above-average women. Men on dating apps are looking for free sex, it's obvious that they will have to stand out more, it's generally a bad deal for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 12:21 AM
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Another reason drink dates are bad is that it seems to be what pushy, entitled men gravitate towards. You say no thanks politely, they'll latch onto that hesitancy and your politeness to ply you with a bit more alcohol. This pushiness is just their personality, it's one of the biggest red flags because it means they are likely to not care about your boundaries. It's unpleasant, I avoid this. It creates that opportunity that simply does not exist when you go to a dinner date or most other types o…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 06:22 PM
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I just don't find it's worth it to pretend you're interested in someone when you're not. If you are forced to be around someone you don't particularly like, how long can you really last? How well can you really hide it? There are social graces but it's different with a romantic partner where you are forced to be together a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 06:14 PM
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Oh, right yeah the simping absolutely does happen. I mean definitely when I see some poor guy on some 1M follower instagram followers models page calling her his beautiful queen thinking he has a shot that's going to bite him one day, i forgot about that. I guess I don't really see it as in the same league of how the genders use each other longer term. For example I see a lot of high SMV men date younger women who are hot but don't have much accomplishments, and they engage them in a series of S…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 06:12 PM
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Your mother wants you to have a backup plan, which is invaluable to have. You can still have all of those things you want, but sometimes things happen out of your control, things you would never see coming. Look at all the weird relationship posts on reddit for example. Graduating and setting up your career in a way that you can return to it (internships, getting past the entry-level part) will at least always give you that option, it's a form of investing in yourself and future children. I don'…
/r/RedPillWomen11/09/20 12:46 AM
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You know, when you meet someone even if they tell you their sexual history, it's difficult to really see it as a part of them. Their sexual history exists as it is between the two of you because that's what you are present for, but it just seems like the other stuff is not there. Or like it was something that someone else did. Maybe it's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:50 AM
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Dude even using men for a free dinner date isn't worth it. You have to dress up, go at least half an hour out of your way, spend 2 hours talking to someone you aren't into. If you got a minimum wage job and worked those 3 hours it would come out to more than your half. I guess you can keep talking to them after saying you aren't interested in anything more than friendship but all you have to do is not reply. It'll be very obvious when a girl isn't into you imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 12:29 AM
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It's ruined every single one of my relationships (as a woman) until my current one so I suppose both yes and no. But generally yes. A lot of men are very messy and expect you to take on most cleaning tasks and will sit there, pretend that you are being ridiculous by reminding them to do what they said they would do, every relationship I was in prior to the current one was ruined by this exact thing. The guy was perfect on paper, looked great, etc, but was impossible to live with. So maybe it's g…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 01:07 PM
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Abundance of partners willing to sleep with them. Not quality partners. Women generally will not lead men on if they are uninterested (they will stop sleeping with them) whereas men won't turn down female interest and sex unless it becomes inconvenient for them. Vetting men is also hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 02:23 PM
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Women ruin their bodies and careers for their families. They give up all independence (they have to be unconditionally present for the children if they need them) and are statistically most likely to do most of the chores in the household regardless of status or income. I'd be very reluctant to do all this if the guy was unwilling to make a lifelong commitment. It's very important to me both culturally (it's something my family values deeply) and on principle. How can I be sure someone wants to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 02:04 PM
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The other stuff you are saying has nothing to do with my argument. Birth control helps because if women all get pregnant at 18, their lives are fucked. Birth control is about far more than mate selection. In many troublesome cultures, the strategy is to impregnate women asap so that they are stuck being bangmaids and they are too young to really understand what is going on or what they are giving up. Marriage age is going up because men demand of women to have good jobs, it's necessary in this e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 05:28 PM
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I don't think feminism was sold on the promise of free sex. It was sold because women are sentient human beings who deserve rights. It was just the right thing to do. This is like saying that you shouldn't have freed black people from slavery unless it benefited you directly somehow. Men proudly visited hookers and brothels, often even when married. JFK cheated on his wife with Marilyn Monroe and did not suffer any negative consequences from it. Epstein-type creeps ran Hollywood and did not even…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 04:52 PM
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We all get burned though. We don't then toil to create a harem of men for wallet-only purposes and say it's the natural order of things to select one after 6 months after they have jumped through enough hoops.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 02:46 PM
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Why would women take the primary caretaker and house maintainer role without assurances they won't be left based on the weather that week? Married men live longer. There are countless benefits marriage gives men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 02:33 PM
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And regarding your idea that women spend more money on such goods. Sorry I don't think I made my point clearly, I meant that women do household expenses like grocery shopping, picking our cabinets, buying clothes for their husbands and kids, sports equipment, school supplies, this seems to be counted in consumer spending according to the definition which is more evidence of women doing unpaid labor rather than not being frugal. I'll have to take a second look at how it's calculated. why Men are …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 03:48 PM
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Say what you want but I have a friend who was dating a guy for 8 years who allowed her career to take a backseat to take care of their relationship and to help him be successful, he dumped and got engaged to a doctor 6 months after starting to date her. Until a woman gets a ring she shouldn't be sacrificing her opportunities. I've never seen any woman as "marriage material" based on her job or degree, it's based on feels and if she's toxic or very demanding. That's fair. I think not being toxic …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 03:28 PM
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Her husband pays for everything. She gets to hang around at home all day partaking in her hobbies and they seem to live in a nice house that he probably got. I know it's different with her channel growth now she is probably raking in some money but if you go for this kind of arrangement you have to be much hotter than the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 05:36 PM
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Of course that's ridiculous to count each act, people start to do that when one side feels used and it's generally showing a deeper problem. It's never possible to keep things perfectly equal, I wouldn't want to be in a bean counting relationship. I have statistics for all of these things but they come from the book 'Invisible women' if you are interested. There is an entire chapter dedicated to how uneven the workload is and how current systems oppress women, I know, eyeroll (chapter 3). For in…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 01:30 AM
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She will! She's such a catch and she's finally free from him and his cheating.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/08/20 03:56 PM
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There are still conventions. There is also the fact that women will still have their career progress upended by having to give birth and take the role of the primary caretaker which will limit her professional life and SMV. Even if a woman earns more she is statistically more likely to do most of the housework and child raising costs. Cooking, cleaning, keeping track of family member birthdays, this is statistically most likely to be done by women eventually so while in the dating phase things b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 03:54 PM
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God I have a friend who was in a relationship like this she was with her bf for 8 years and moved in together. She let her career go on the backburner to do all the chores, cooking, cleaning, planning all the social events and making sure his friendships don't suffer while he was working hard at his job and moving ahead, she helped take care of his younger sibling and helped him have nothing to focus on but work because she preferred taking care of that side of the equation. She really helped bu…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/08/20 03:39 PM
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I agree that buying a nice car or a fancy house won't necessarily attract men. I mean. I've had my fair share of men I dated go 'u live alone?' and try to agree to let them move in but that's another story. I rent anyways. I'm not saying that being a cunt and rubbing your success in peoples noses works, I just mean that by and large all my high SMV male friends who have good jobs and look at least OK looks are getting married to women who match them in status and looks. The guy who married the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 11:49 AM
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Well dating apps that focus on sex like tinder are skewed for the above average because of the shocking abundance of men looking for FWBs and ONS, women are generally not looking for this, especially not from strangers. It's never been easy for men to have casual sex unless they're above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 02:24 AM
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LMAO. Youre just assuming Chelsea Clinton doesn't respect her president dad???? Jesus what a cope. I mean she can respect his professional achievements but know that he is a degenerate person. Those are two separate things. Having a great and devoted mother who gave you a terrific childhood with all the sacrifices that entails and knowing your father cheated on her and in turn put you through hell for that too with all the media whirlwind, there's nothing that can make it resentment free. LOL ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 10:10 PM
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I don't know it just doesn't seem right to me to stay in a stable LTR where you are mutually respectful and then when you get the power to fuck the other person over you do just that to the extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 08:41 PM
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Except I could keep the same lifestyle and lose the cheater. He would even have to pay for it. Honestly if one of my parents put the other through something like cheating I would resent them for it regardless of anything else. Like Chelsea Clinton takes her fathers money to improve her own life but I doubt she thinks highly of him. She probably wouldn't bring her girlfriends around him. With that amount of money you can date someone in affluent circles. Like the ex-wife of Tiger Woods, Elin, she…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 08:32 PM
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And this is why alimony, child support, and equitable division of assets exists. Once I get the ring and a few kids, if I find out my husband is cheating I'll be walking away with half his assets and the new possibility of being able to date without the desperation of a biological timeline, the support of all our mutual friends because cheaters are not seen well, and a fully funded lifestyle that I will be indulging in. Not to mention the kids will find out the truth sooner or later and make up …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 08:01 PM
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Do you know what I've seen IRL though? Attractive girls who have nothing else going for them, like the ones who work minimum wage jobs but put a ton of effort into appearing attractive, they do land HVM but usually have a string of STRs with them and aren't taken seriously as marriage material. I know this is anecdotal but I have a friend who is a HVM and he had a major man whore phase, he would LTR the hottest of the bunch, but he eventually got engaged to an average looking pudgy lawyer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 03:16 PM
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I think only LVM discourage this. The more educated and the better employment a woman has, the smaller his dating pool becomes unless he is willing to improve himself in some way. Which he would rather complain than do. HVM are all for educated and high-earning women because this is who they date. Fathers all want their daughters well educated and well employed because they know this. You're also doing fine btw, you're a college student and hopefully you can use his success as motivation to work…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 03:12 PM
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Yeah... I've known guys who run this game. They brag that they are so good at sex that women will pay for all their shit to get a good hot dicking. I wish I could show you the forum threads where other red pill guys tear them to shreds. It's a nasty thing to do in my opinion. Well it was more that he made me feel bad for him because he had a bad childhood and I was kind of guilted into paying everything, even his bills. It's my fault for being an idiot though lol. I mean I had a gut feeling the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:53 AM
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But a man willing to have sex with you is worthless. Yes, most women can get any man to sleep with them if they try hard enough. A woman agreeing to sleep with you is an ego boost for yourself, while it's 9 months of pregnancy and a lifetime of child raising your offspring for her with 0 promised commitment. On a biological level, a woman willing to do that for you is very flattering and difficult to turn down. There is no faster way to plummet your SMV as a woman than to have a string of childr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:22 PM
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Well I'm sorry that you've been through that, it's certainly not right. I've been guilted into spending money on a guy too if that's any consolation and it does feel awful. I still think that money is just an object, you can easily replace it, but being guilted into sexual acts is much more personal. I would prefer to be guilted into spending money than guilted into sex 100x over. But taking advantage of someone with poor boundaries is heinous regardless. You can also lie about being a victim of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 08:53 PM
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It does not happen frequently because men tell their girlfriends to fuck off if they are that transparent. As women should do to men who are sexually coercive, but this type of behaviour only affects vulnerable people with poor personal boundaries and is icky both ways. You can't go into a court of law and say 'this man said he would break-up with me if we don't sleep together so I want him charged for rape' you could slander them on social media for predatory behaviour, just like a man could al…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:42 PM
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Sounds like you are investing time and effort into this and all you are getting back is negative energy and sketchiness. Time to eject. I think he's looking to get a rise out of you so that you can trip over yourself for him, he sounds really full of himself. He's probably going to try to pull you back in once he sees you're not as interested for ego purposes but stand firm.
/r/RedPillWomen19/08/20 05:58 PM
1

Well I am talking about the damage that men cause if they are older guys dating much younger girls right at the legal line. It means the law is the only thing stopping them from going lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 05:44 PM
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This is emotionally abusive. I've gender flipped the paragraph: "There is nothing wrong with obtaining money from your bf by repeated requests, guilting, threatening break-up, etc. Anything short of ignoring someone's clear refusal or obtaining compliance by threats of violence is fair game."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 04:15 PM
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Well there are plenty of TED talks where women talk about being married off underage in places where it was legal, and how damaging it was to them. The men who seek these kind of arrangements are usually problematic and just want someone to control.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 04:08 PM
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My problem with advice dealing with LMR is that it always skirts very closely to bypassing consent. The line changes as things become less acceptable. For example, remember the pickup artist that got in trouble because he was filming how to bypass LMR and it was really iffy on consent? Yeah so the acceptable line skirts nearest to what is socially acceptable without being incriminating. The advice literally used to be to wear the woman down until she says yes. I remember those days. For instance…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:07 PM
1

"Friends first" where you give your friendship after being denied more solely in hopes of getting an upgrade is as stupid as "FWB first" where you give sex after being denied solely in hopes of getting an upgrade. The only time it works is if you are genuinely okay with being just friends, or genuinely okay just sleeping together and something organic develops out of that but it's a poor strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 03:13 PM
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I recognize my old self in this post. Please read the book 'why men marry bitches'. It's not about being a bitch it's about how to avoid being played and about male psychology, it's necessary to protect your heart. I would refer to this book as the bible or the 101 on how to navigate relationships in these profoundly fucked times. It completely changed my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 03:07 PM
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I absolutely do not feel betrayed by the sexual revolution. The hookup culture was alive and well before the sexual revolution, but men were given a carte blanche to partake in it while women were condemned for it and shoved into lifelong madonna/whore boxes. Women are simply allowed to partake in it too nowadays and men don't like it. Which hurts low SMV men in particular, but this is something all men took part in prior so I think being angry at women is misguided. Fucking around until your 30…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 03:01 PM
2

Bullet dodged. Guys who are not good at respecting your boundaries when it comes to this will certainly not respect your boundaries in other areas, push their own wants onto you, and make terrible partners. Look at how little consideration he had about what you wanted, it was all about him. Dude filtered himself out.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/08/20 03:35 PM
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I've always said this was a reason to expect the man to pay on a first date. If he has a rotation of women and is scouting for more, he won't want to pay $500/month on dinner and will look for ways out of it. If he has good intentions he won't mind paying for your $20 meal.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/08/20 03:30 PM
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Yeah, that's awful. I feel people should have more empathy for each other in general. The few that take advantage of a situation ruin it for everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 04:26 PM
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If a woman is raised in that kind of environment, she is going to seek out strong, dangerous men to protect her. It is the best course of action in that scenario. Yes, she can technically seek out a middle-class accountant but how is that going to help her when she lives in a violent area? It won't. It's like how women without fathers or older brothers in her life go through puberty faster, it's because most women are better off with a mans protection. This is what the bodies are wired for biolo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 01:06 AM
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Well I would say it depends on the situation. As a woman in my personal experience sometimes it was due to relationship issues (the guy had anger issues or something) causing me to no longer want to be intimate, but I was open to fixing things, however the repetition of problematic behaviour caused the relationship to end soon after. If everything else is fine but there is no sex, or it dries up then yeah, that's how you get into a dead bedroom situation and that must be avoided. It's definitely…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 01:00 AM
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Agreed. Most men, as long as you make it convenient for them will not break up with you even if they are not crazy about you. Yet LTRs are the only way to end up getting married in the west. It's very high risk and explains a lot of stereotypical female behaviours (overanalyzing, obsessing over lies, etc). The most extreme example I see of this is when some male celebrity or rich guy dates a pretty woman who is a dime a dozen for him, she allows him to sleep around and have threesomes with her t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 12:35 AM
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I've had a lot of friends who have come to depend on their boyfriends for whatever reason (job loss, move away from regular support system, pregnancy, injury, etc) and many of these boyfriends chose that moment to become abusive because they knew that it would be more complicated for her to leave, so they can let the mask slip. This is very important to vet for imo.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/08/20 02:40 AM
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I realized that as long as you make it convenient for a man, he will not end things even if he does not see you as long term or wife material. It's a trap, they will simply say this to some girl dumb enough to fall for it that they are lukewarm about while trying to pull all the stops to impress a girl he actually likes.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/07/20 10:40 PM
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I don't think the number is 6 months, I think it's long enough so that a fuck boy would have thrown in the towel and moved on. The point of being a slight pain in the ass is that most men, as long as you make it convenient for them and meet a certain threshold, won't break up with you even if they don't see you as wife or long term material. If you are offering sex without commitment on top of that they are even less likely to break it off. Until their dream girl appears. Then they're out there …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 07:06 PM
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I will always remember a guy I worked with who seemed very nice, very polite. Then I overheard him talking to another male coworker saying he went to a party, got drunk, and hooked up with his longtime female friend, who made it clear she liked him after. He lied to her about just looking through his phone while recording her in the act and he called her a slut and basically laughed about it with the other coworker. The same guy got into a LTR with another girl who put out later and treated her …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/07/20 09:14 AM
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I'm a pickmeisha in recovery that would cater right to this. Endless paragraphs explaining my feelings thinking it would clear everything up not seeing it was a test 🤦‍♀️ . The irony is that I cared so much when I would send those, and once I 100% stopped caring and writing those embarrassing texts they would come trundling back hoping to get more validation and suddenly being very communicative when it was no longer served up on a platter for them. But it felt like they were just trying to get …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/07/20 10:40 PM
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It depends what you mean by LVM. In my experience, having an emotionally abusive father ruined my perception of what is 'nice' and I allowed people to speak to me terribly and guilt me via gaslighting before wisening up. For me it's a motivation to never depend on a man because those years where I was dependent on him to have a roof over my head was when he treated me the worst, made me feel I was incapable of doing things on my own, it was very toxic. As soon as I could leave he dialled that be…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/07/20 06:27 PM
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I think PPD is mostly people arguing with men who are either in the anger phase, or trying to justify being players.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/07/20 06:15 PM
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For some reason women want men to believe that chasing a career and paying off debts is mutually exclusive to having a committed relationship and getting married Of course it's not mutually exclusive. I'm just saying that a college student living at home, or a new working professional still living at home with no car, assets, broke and building herself up essentially is living an entirely different life to a man 3-4 years older than her (statistically who she marries). Once she establishes herse…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 05:43 PM
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So someone is hurt, then they take this pain and take it out on others who had nothing to do with it just because they can? Idk this is extremely awful. I think people with this kind of anger should work on themselves to become better people. You never know what another person is going through or how your malicious actions can affect someone mentally. You're justifying objectifying someone for your own ego, when you should be seeing people as complex, whole, entire beings. Why not just let your …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 02:35 PM
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If you need to go to the library and you live next door, you simply walk a minute and you are there. On the other hand, if you live 2 hours away driving distance, you must go through 2 hours of traffic and hassle. Therefore the first person should be shamed for going to the library and the second should be praised. That's how much sense this is making to me. It's starting to seem like men who sleep around are ashamed of it but instead of putting the blame on themselves, they put it on the women …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/07/20 09:41 PM
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That's absolutely fine too! I guess it just goes against the common wisdom of what you are supposed to do as a woman, it's an interesting perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 04:05 PM
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Men have an easier path because they learn a skill, and work that up until their retirement becoming good husband material, the women will come. They have a time window but it's not as strict, and generally men don't have the hardest time finding women to LTR if they have their shit somewhat together. For women, they have until their early 30s to figure everything out career-wise before they start needing to focus on marriage and kids. It could be done earlier but it's a trade-off, the higher ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 01:06 AM
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Working full-time in an at least halfway decent job is a requirement to get a decent guy to take you seriously as wife material nowadays though. If you want to date high earners and marry one you should become one yourself, it's the surest path. Then you can relax while raising his kid, but it's a dash to that line.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 01:00 AM
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This statement makes my head hurt because I've always had sex with men after commitment, and that is common wisdom, so reading this leaves me in a state of confused despair at what the fuck I am supposed to do. If a man won't commit, the idea is he doesn't like you enough to stop playing the field, but if a man has this ideology then it just means sex isn't as big a deal to him, it's another factor like a compatible personality, lifestyle, interests etc. Which is a much more healthy way to look …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 12:48 AM
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LVM have caused so much needless violence and suffering. This is why the argument that incels and femcels should date is invalid. Those guys are scary, they will take out their resentment on you. LVM are not always ugly, but they usually have some kind of personality flaw such as being controlling, entitled, insecure, etc. Here this 35 year old probably sat down next to a very attractive 21 year old, it's probably not the first time he does something like this, he probably wouldn't approach a wo…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/07/20 06:26 PM
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If you're raised and living in the hood or any other very dangerous area as a woman you will naturally go for the drug dealer, gang banger, killer, or thief because that's the only guy that can protect you in that kind of environment. That's the appealing thing with alphas, sure money is great, but physical protection is always better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 06:09 PM
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If you go outside you'll see people don't really care about things to the extent we do here. They pay them no mind and suffer no consequences. They're probably better off for it. I think we're either all autistic, or have some sort of past trauma that impedes us getting into healthy relationships, so we are looking for these causes together clinging to extremist ideologies for dear life and bickering when we should all get therapy. And go outside and live a little. And strive to be better people…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 12:36 AM
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Not to be this person, but I think this is about boundaries. Everybody needs better boundaries. There are also girls with hearts of gold out here who sleep with guys they like immediately because that's what those men tell them they want. Guess what? That is not optimal, she should be more selfish and filter better before investing her time. I think there is a line between being selfish to the point of seeing people are mere means to an end rather than valuing them intrinsically, and being a pus…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 12:22 AM
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This is an excellent point, wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 01:00 PM
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Yeah, marriage usually guards against this because the man would have to give up half his built up assets, alimony, and child support to the ex-wife, becoming far less attractive to the newer one. I think it would be far more prevalent otherwise. But that's just my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 12:54 PM
1

I see the mention of money being neglected when discussing the RMV/SMV, which makes me think this sub skews younger. Most serious couples need a dual income to raise a family, purchase a home in a decent area, etc. This changes what men look for, since women always looked for the same thing. I know a ton of marriages where the woman has her finances in order, is mid to late 30's, the guy doesn't and held onto her because he knows it's his chance to raise a middle class family. This is completely…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 12:49 PM
1

People have the freedom to act however they want with their free will. I don't know why it's highlighted for women when men on TRP pat themselves on the back for cheating and being amoral. I think it's because some men have issues with abundance. They latch onto one women physically and mentally, and hold on for dear life. In a sense we are all like that with our first loves. So this line of thinking can help take this woman off the pedestal, but you can also just portray it as 'don't be a doorm…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 01:34 PM
1

Man, there are some attractive guys who are complete train wrecks, and there are some attractive women who are unbelievably annoying and aggravating. There are also some people who at first glance don't seem like the most attractive but they start talking and moving around and immediately you are captivated. Some people are hilarious or interesting or just fun. Some people are attractive but you feel like you are with a cardboard cutout and after a while their attractiveness loses its novelty. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 12:34 AM
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It's bad. In my opinion seeing people as pleasure objects is not good. You should value people intrinsically, if you cycle through different people for pleasure rather than to build something with, you're being a degenerate and eroding your ability to connect with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 02:03 AM
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I would attribute it to factors other than OLD. -The economic reality is that to be wife material, women are expected to be good providers too. This takes time. Sure a woman can date MUCH older and uglier and circumvent that, trading her youth for his resources, but he will either be much less attractive than what she can get by working hard, or a lifelong plate spinner and player that will burn her. People also live at home longer due to the increasing economic difficulties, and they don't go o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 12:52 AM
3

But see, most girls have the choice of being Hannah, the girl who is waited for and has a future with you, or random side piece that you are p&d-ing to pass the time with. This is why I recommend waiting until exclusivity for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 09:30 PM
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I think all people improve their boundaries as they age though. Young men are easier to take for a ride than older ones, they will put up with crazy women, being emotional tampons, paying for everything, giving all their time away, etc. Over time they realize that this is not a good way to lead life and develop better boundaries around themselves, same for women, same for people in all areas of life, not just romantic. This is why age of consent laws exist. Idk if a girl makes a mistake once, ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 09:25 PM
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One of the biggest failings of the patriarchy is how it treats its vulnerable women. The men the most adamantly for prostitution are typically red pill men who are a fan of the patriarchy, not leftists. A lot of women who work in prostitution come from broken homes, are drug addicted, have been sex-trafficked, come from a traumatized childhood, etc. Most prostitutes have stories of being raped. It's a horrible industry, there is no way to sanitize it. There is this youtube channel called the sof…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 02:19 PM
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A commitment is a partnership to build a life together considering each others goals. A romantic one may include kids and a marriage which is a lifelong promise to hold it together, building a unique connection based on that. Platonic friends move, they make decisions based on what's best for them. They can decide to move to a different country on a whim without considering your input at all. FWBs and STRs usually just fulfill the mans ego with no benefit to the woman. Women put a lot on the lin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 01:55 AM
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Thanks for your answer :) White men were not more privileged back in the day, they just worked there asses off more to break out of oppression. America was far less of a meritocracy back then, there was the lower class that was treated like shit, but if you were a poc or a woman you had restrictions on your success, earning potential, and independence that no longer exist. Most men who are tradcons, especially from the south where they are concentrated, they are of families that would have benef…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 01:40 AM
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Nooooo really??? Well I included that information because in certain southern states I heard everybody gets married early whereas where I live I cannot think of a single couple that got married in their early 20s. Out of every single person I know. It's a separate discussion entirely but that's why I added that, if someone were from a place like that, that paragraph wouldn't be agreeable is all. ​ Bull fucking shit. America was way less of a meritocracy back then is what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 11:50 PM
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The traditional tradcons, from what I have seen, are white men who are not doing so well in the modern world, but would have done better in the 1950s. Because at that time they were handed an education, jobs that could sustain a family, and a wife because women had no choice but to access resources and live through a husband. However, you cannot ignore the racism, the sexism, the classism, and the unfair playing field as well as how technology and automation changed the world. It's an entirely d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 06:34 PM
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I think a big factor in this so called sexlessness epidemic is that the SMP has changed drastically too. Nobody is going outside as much, young men are inside playing video games rather than socializing so they are like a fish out of water the few times a year they do go out and try. Seriously, the amount of teenage boys playing sports or engaging in any group building activity is at an all time low unless it's staying indoors and playing fortnite. Even young adult men will play video games onli…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 12:36 AM
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This is interesting because there are a few countries (Egypt, Saudi Arabia, off the top of my head, there are others I am sure) where women dress very modestly yet the men cannot control themselves around them in public. I agree with the idea that sexuality should be kept private but it's just not realistic. Even if women don't show off their body.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:59 AM
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It sounds like it's glorifying rape so it definitely wouldn't be accepted. I just think this kink acceptance has gone too far, like yes, fine, whatever not everyone likes the same exact thing, but when you have all these strange subgenres like furries, plays on consent, dungeons like in fifty shades, people popping out of cakes, people walking their partners on a freaking leash, I think we should just have a killswitch to reset everyones sex drive back to blank. No more porn, no more degeneracy,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 03:30 PM
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I think there are mentally ill women who are completely deluded (the ones who were Ted Bundy groupies for example, or ones who glorify a novel where kidnapping occurs). Using them as representative of all women is really not fair, they need psychological help. Fifty shades, I only saw the movie, it was awful, and very cringy, but from what I've seen there was consent. More importantly it's about a dangerous but civilized man who changes for his girlfriend, overcomes his brutish nature because of…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 01:45 PM
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I disagree with this, it'll go from discussing ideas to attacking/discrediting people for whatever flair they have. Anybody can still bring up context if it's relevant in a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 12:33 AM
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That's horrible, someone who got to that position in life has to have a knack for dealing with people pulling all sorts of crap and yet she couldn't see that coming, it's always a blind spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 12:29 AM
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Tell me about it. I had a friend who was my age, and when we were 20 she lost her virginity to this guy, he had his own apartment and everything. They got to know each other fairly well before the act. One day she's working, part-time waitress during her studies, and a woman shows up with a baby in a carriage and informs her that she is in a relationship with her husband. Proves it and everything. That he keeps cheating on her because she has trouble conceiving, and this wife buys this story, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 11:55 PM
1

Well the older dating rituals were good for men I mean. Like the older generations, now it's all upside down. Women should insist on splitting the bill on a date if they don't feel a connection and don't plan on getting back to the guy, that would solve a lot of resentment. There are a bunch of different problems women face too, like if you meet someone online you have to be careful because he is not vetted by your group of friends or family. Women have to vet for intentions and sanity, it's not…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 11:42 PM
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Well there is the first impression that is very important. If you're a 6 wanting to land a 9, you're going to constantly have to work to maintain that level of attraction. It's going to be very taxing. You're going to have to compete with the other 7, 8 and 9's and come out on top. I see this fairly often with both men and women, they don't want a looksmatch, so once they land someone out of their league they think they are owed reciprocation for the efforts they put in when it doesn't work that…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 09:22 PM
1

This study (the Stanford prison experiment) is what drew me to find ppd in the first place, it's so interesting! I tried to read 'The Lucifer Effect' which is the book about it, but it was terribly, terribly written. The writing is bad and the way it's edited together is even worse, it makes it unreadable. One of the conclusions that stuck with me is that the things that could bridge the power gap is humor. But it seems to be something that really strikes at the core of gender dynamics, race dyn…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 03:25 PM
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I mean ideally nobody strings a person along. I know TRP is amoral or whatever but if someone was honest about their feelings, and you disregard them to maximize your own utility then you're just a bad person. Regardless of gender. It's true that everybody is responsible for themselves. If you're a naive, well-meaning girl or guy and you think 'oh no worries XD!!!' after a rejection while thinking to yourself you will be as nice and giving as possible and get reciprocation eventually then you wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 01:07 AM
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Well many men pass on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 12:07 AM
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