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They Are Billions is a breath of fresh air.
/r/MGTOW21/12/17 06:19 AM
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Cooties! This explains so much... Stay safe, gentlemen.
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 01:10 PM
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Respect in exchange for gambling your life to get that woman some food? Uh, yeah, no, thanks. I'll take the comforts of modern society any day over that. Also, I doubt that he takes turns with his wife climbing that tree. Call it a hunch.
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 02:48 PM
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Generally not advisable to provide full disclosure to your mom as a guy, either. She may be your parent, but the firmware is still female.
/r/MGTOW13/11/17 07:33 PM
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/r/MGTOW13/11/17 07:25 PM
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Dr. Michael Newton has done extensive research in this area using regressive hypnosis. I highly recommend his books if you're interested in the topic.
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 06:18 PM
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The marriage stability chart is the most impressive. 80% vs 50% difference made by a single partner? Holy cow.
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 04:31 PM
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Insurance premiums would have to be crazy high for this to be viable. Besides, if a man is sober enough to realize the risk and consider insurance, he would most likely avoid the whole trap in the first place. Edit: Also, way too easy to pull off an insurance scam. Still, it would be interesting to see how the hypothetical company would assess the risk factor. There would have to be extensive compatibility and background checks involved.
/r/MGTOW14/03/17 05:29 PM
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Not even surprised anymore. Humans are not logical creatures by default- it takes a lot of time and hardship for someone to become a reasonable person, and there is no guarantee that they will be able to pass that down to their children. It's all to easy for humans to slip back into their animalistic state- especially in a comfortable environment.
/r/MGTOW11/03/17 06:22 PM
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Praying for heavenly things and hating where we are is not much different from longing for physical things. Fact of the matter is, we are here for a reason, and the difficult circumstances of our lives are the crucible that refines our spirit. If we can find appreciation for our trials, that alone will alleviate much of our suffering.
/r/MGTOW11/03/17 02:00 PM
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This might be a misguided attempt to make themselves more attractive. Many career women believe that their income will raise their SMV, since they themselves are attracted to wealth and status in men. Similarly, women seem to be attracted to men with abrasive characters- so they adopt bitchy features for the same purpose. Men may not even be the target audience of that display- the goal is probably just to climb the female social hierarchy. Just speculation, of course, so go eat a grain of salt.…
/r/MGTOW08/03/17 10:11 PM
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If you buy a jar like that, you get to wear the contents.
/r/MGTOW08/03/17 09:58 PM
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Gotta milk those 15 minutes of fame for all the value she can get.
/r/MGTOW07/03/17 08:23 PM
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I am a pay gap You and me both, brother.
/r/MGTOW07/03/17 11:15 AM
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Thank you, these are quite insightful.
/r/MGTOW06/03/17 10:43 AM
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This TED talk puts things into perspective, and might well be the best of them all. Much like with women, we can't fix the status quo- we can only choose and live with integrity for ourselves.
/r/MGTOW13/02/17 06:04 PM
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Sorry man, but you cannot save him. It is hard enough trying to help someone when they are willing, and impossible if they're actively resisting your help. If you persist, the best case scenario is that they suck you into their vortex of insanity- meaning, your mother's interests will be served once again. My brother is in a similar situation, except our mother has taken her influence so far, that he developed a number of severe psychological disorders. He can't leave the house, he doesn't eat, …
/r/MGTOW05/02/17 05:21 PM
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There's a distinct advantage to being short- you have a smaller hitbox. Which means, a lot of female bullshit will sail right over your head, keeping both your sanity and wallet contents intact.
/r/MGTOW04/02/17 07:06 PM
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Mom: I'll help you pin him down, so we can spit him 50/50.
/r/MGTOW04/02/17 05:58 PM
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The bill always comes due. And this time hubby won't be there to pick up the check.
/r/MGTOW04/02/17 05:45 PM
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Thank you for the story. It's interesting how a bit of leverage can bring out that side in a woman. With a bit of foresight that money could have served her much better. But I guess it's more difficult to make rational choices as a woman. Or perhaps most of them never learn to do it because they don't have to.
/r/MGTOW02/02/17 11:14 PM
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Oh, born, of course. Fucking bring it on. I have learned so much in this life- every bit of pain was worth it. If you are of the spiritual "persuasion", you will know, that knowledge and experience you get to keep when you die. This, for me, gives meaning to life. Besides, things are starting to look up, and finding MGTOW has helped a great deal.
/r/MGTOW02/02/17 10:48 PM
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Sheesh, you guys. You don't have to insult the man- not everyone has been exposed to the ugly side of female nature. Maybe he'll come around, maybe not- but attacking him doesn't help anyone. To OP- if things are working out for you, then great- you have a good thing going, so I would treasure it. Not everyone has had it as easy, though, and people need to express their frustrations to regain their balance. This sub is one of the few remaining places where it is safe to do so.
/r/MGTOW02/02/17 10:04 PM
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I know for a fact that these tendencies are not limited to black women. Incestuous crap aside, the interesting question is- what are they getting out of these relationships? Women seem to have a strong desire to dominate men, much more so than the other way around. If the man they are holding down cannot provide for them, that seems somewhat pointless. I suspect that there is a good deal of existential anxiety that fuels this. While these women still had their husbands around, their identity was…
/r/MGTOW02/02/17 04:48 PM
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Hell is a tempting definition when we're not having a great time in life. The better question might be why we are here, and why we are having our specific experience. There are significant benefits to living a challenging life, even though they only make sense in the context of reincarnation. When we realize that our challenges are not inflicted on us, but we chose them ourselves, we gain the strength to live life with dignity and purpose.
/r/MGTOW27/01/17 03:18 PM
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Now this is interesting. Makes you wonder if they finally made the connection between female empowerment, the low birthrates and men dying off like flies. I suspect that domestic violence will actually decrease if the bill is passed, since wives can no longer use the law to threaten their husbands into submission. Also, the overwhelming numbers in the vote point towards someone manipulating the whole process. No surprises there, though.
/r/MGTOW12/01/17 01:01 AM
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There is just something beautiful about this photo. The dreary landscape and its tired inhabitants perfectly capture the spirit of modernity. And then there's the happy kid who just doesn't give a fuck. "As without, so within" may be a good title for it.
/r/MGTOW31/12/16 06:19 AM
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Good points there. I'd say a lot of young men are stuck in this predicament because of a sense of powerlessness. A harsh change in circumstances would certainly get them moving, but that may never come, or come too late. I believe there is an alternative, though- gradually rebuilding your confidence by doing something for others. A low-paying part-time, minor online jobs and charity would do, since they're a good starting point with a low barrier of entry. What they lack in financial returns, th…
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 07:06 AM
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I agree, but shaming yourself into action will often bring about even worse circumstances than those you are trying to avoid. Life has a way of working out when we trust ourselves. The alternative is the slavery I mentioned- doing what we don't want just so that we can avoid facing our fears.
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 11:55 PM
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Most of those issues are self-inflicted, due to boredom. When there is nothing better to do, people tend to focus on their issues, causing them to grow- until they are so big that the person is hardly able to function. Of course, you can't go from 0 to 90 in one leap- the key is easing yourself into the idea of what you feel is an acceptable lifestyle for you. Don't get stuck in why it can't be done, just try to see what you would rather be and do- it has to be something reasonable, of course. I…
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 01:03 PM
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Yea, you tell him. I'm sure all that shame will turn him into a productive and happy man. If that's what motivates your continued involvement with work, you're in self-inflicted hell. He's right about the slavery part, and nearly everyone is their own slave driver.
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 12:43 PM
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Good points there, and I came pretty much to the same conclusion- that all altruism is selfishly motivated. We all want to feel good, and that is likely the underlying reason for the entirety of both human and animal behaviour. We could say that different personalities are rewarded with varying amounts of "good feels" for engaging in the same behaviour- so for some people altruism may well be the path of least resistance towards that end. Others may get more of a kick out of piling up currency, …
/r/MGTOW15/12/16 02:56 AM
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That's a smart approach. When you're free of the self-image of being a good or helpful person is when altruism yields the best results, I find. This allows us to leverage our intuition and decide on a case-by-case basis.
/r/MGTOW13/12/16 12:37 AM
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What do you think he meant by that?
/r/MGTOW11/12/16 10:21 PM
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I've also been taken advantage of, of course, it's how we all found our way here. I think one could suppress their altruistic tendencies in an effort of self-preservation, but that's pretty limiting. I'd rather find a way to give to others without opening myself up to predation on their part. If they want to be dicks about it, it's their choice, and doesn't have to affect me.
/r/MGTOW11/12/16 08:58 AM
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If you're saying that it would be a good idea to sign up- well, maybe. Frankly, it's a pretty sterile environment, a safe space, if you will. I'd rather live in the world and benefit from the resulting growth, even if it's a difficult process. Also, I hear the food isn't all that great.
/r/MGTOW11/12/16 08:49 AM
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Depends on the definition of self and interest. Our ultimate goal is to feel good, it's what makes people do the things they do. If someone decides to feel bad now, because they believe they will feel even worse later on if they don't- that's a miserable rabbit hole to go down, I would say. The correct choice is always right there in front of us, but people often mess it up in an attempt to secure their positions in life. I.e.: they keep taking the hit of feeling bad now, but the good feeling th…
/r/MGTOW11/12/16 08:38 AM
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It's difficult to tell, since we don't really have a lot of data on the pre-agrarian lifestyle of humans. We could look at the primitive tribes of Africa or the amazon forest, and frankly, those guys seem pretty happy to me. Certainly happier than the average Joe in an industrialized society. We cannot go back to that state, but perhaps we can learn from them and live better lives in our present conditions. Incidentally, we don't see any subservience of one man to another in those kinds of socie…
/r/MGTOW11/12/16 08:19 AM
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I think Satan is a good analogy for our dual natures and the choices available to us. The bible has a good quote on this (Matthew 6-24): No man can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will hold to the one and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. Wether the creators were good is an interesting question. I do think that earth makes an excellent staging and proving ground, if you account for reincarnation and immortality of the soul.
/r/MGTOW11/12/16 07:53 AM
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Good points there. Granted, such a significant transition can't be an easy one- but we do tend to make things unnecessarily hard on ourselves, both on a societal and on an individual level. What is it that you suggest? What can you do -- in the heres and nows? I think that a lot of choices we have come down to a choice between fear and faith. Consider an average Steve waking up in the morning on a workday. He knows he has to head in for work today, but he really doesn't want to. He'd rather take…
/r/MGTOW11/12/16 07:43 AM
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That's a strong message right there. I'm with you on most points, it was certainly one hell of an eye opener when all these things started coming into focus. But once the firestorm dies down, there is not much left to live for, unless there is a bigger cause you can serve. The contributions you make to the world are ultimately a zero-sum game, but that's not important. What is important is that standing for something allows us to live a better life, both for ourselves and others. It gives us a s…
/r/MGTOW11/12/16 07:17 AM
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Very true. Fortunately, there is no longer a reason to elbow your way to the top once impressing women becomes a non-issue. And hence, no longer a need to cultivate those "winning" traits in yourself.
/r/MGTOW11/12/16 07:00 AM
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This was helpful, thank you. Rationally all these things have a good explanation, it's finding your emotional balance in this mess that takes time. Still, I'm confident that I'll figure it out eventually, and the prospect of offering whatever help I can to others is a good motivator.
/r/MGTOW11/12/16 06:56 AM
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Well, then I'll be that sucker, I suppose. It comes down to choosing the lesser evil- being unsuccessful in this environment, or being unfaithful to yourself.
/r/MGTOW10/12/16 08:11 PM
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Those are all good points, of course. The issue I am emphasizing is that all too often we abuse that intellect to enslave ourselves, rather than doing what we would actually like to do in that situation. All for the sake of staving off fear, of maintaining the status quo. As a result we not only hurt ourselves, but those around us and our environment.
/r/MGTOW10/12/16 07:59 PM
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Are you really a sucker for doing what feels right? Have you really gained by taking from someone at their expense? Some like to think that our feelings and instincts are remnants of an era long past- because it helps them to silence their conscience. But they may well be our moral councilors, giving us the choice between fear and... something better, I guess.
/r/MGTOW10/12/16 07:48 PM
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Folks aren't doing so hot around these parts, either.
/r/MGTOW10/12/16 05:11 PM
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In my experience, they will show enough affection so that you'll remember your dear mother when the time comes for you to support her. Those being their plans for you, of course. They will still want to feel in charge, though, and put you down to boost their sense of self-importance. All the while complaining and demanding attention and affection, because, after all, she is your dear mother. Unhealthy stuff, in other words. My younger brother got the worst of it, growing up with a still younger …
/r/MGTOW10/12/16 04:11 PM
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Whatever helps someone work through the anger is fine, as long as they avoid the extremes. The path forward from powerlessness lies through anger and revenge, and those who try to skip that phase will just remain in their powerless state. Eventually revenge just won't feel satisfying anymore and a more calmer state of mind naturally ensues. So no, you're not evil, it's just your way to heal the past and restore balance.
/r/MGTOW09/12/16 08:28 AM
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Honestly, I don't see it happening even within the next few generations. It's not a bubble because the the preference is instinctual, most likely defined genetically. Even if women were to be stripped of their freedoms and became property to men, they still would secretly long for the greener and taller grass on the other side of the proverbial fence. Frankly, I can't think of any societal change that would hurt women's interests enough to warrant a radical change in preference towards men.
/r/MGTOW09/12/16 05:55 AM
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That's just good business right there. As morally bankrupt as it is. I'm just amused to think of the dollar signs going up in the eyes of young women all around the world as they hear about this.
/r/MGTOW09/12/16 05:26 AM
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I think it would be a good idea to archive the videos from all known MGTOW channels, considering that they could become unavailable at any moment. There is a lot of priceless knowledge in there, pertaining not only to lifestyle choices, but to philosophy and the future of humankind in general. What we are seeing is tantamount to book burning in an attempt to obscure "dangerous" knowledge. Dangerous not to the individual, but to the powers that seek to enslave men using their ignorance. How to do…
/r/MGTOW06/12/16 03:24 AM
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Putting aside reason and the need for substantiation for a moment, I tend to agree with this. On the level of feeling, there seems to happen an intertwining of essences, if you will. Both partners share in the essence of the other, and from that moment on will share a connection, even if they go their separate ways. This is very subtle, but becomes quite significant once you refine your sensitivity and start experiencing life from a subtler perspective. This is the reason why I believe it is imp…
/r/MGTOW05/12/16 09:01 AM
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I think he's missing the point here. They aren't complaining because they are ultimately dissatisfied with men and would like them to be different. They complain for the sake of extracting attention and sympathy. Bitching and moaning are just how women interact socially. The added bonus is that if they luck out they can instill a sense of shame in a man and have him serve their needs.
/r/MGTOW05/12/16 02:51 AM
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This is a very interesting phenomenon. I do not speak out of personal experience, but I remember reading that animal breeders have to take this into account when handling animals. A white dove will no longer produce purely white offspring if she mates with a common pigeon even once. Similar effects have been observed in horse breeding.
/r/MGTOW05/12/16 02:23 AM
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It comes down to choice between mind and heart. If both are in agreement, it's a non-issue, but since you are asking, you're feeling the split. You can go with your mind, but maintaining that choice will require ever increasing effort, and eventually you will break. I would trust my instincts on this, but your own mileage may vary. It doesn't matter what your current living situation is, life will find a way to arrange everything you need. Most people don't believe that, and will hold on to what…
/r/MGTOW01/12/16 12:55 AM
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Eh. Too much effort.
/r/MGTOW25/11/16 07:51 PM
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Running short on slaves, eh? Tough shit.
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 11:36 PM
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That joke my well be the full truth. I doubt that men have any inherent biological reasons for the shorter lifespan. But when life is hell and you're under constant pressure, that's bound to severely affect your health. The fact that men even make it as long as they do is a testament to the remarkable resilience of the human body.
/r/MGTOW18/11/16 06:28 AM
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It's a bit like national debt, isn't it? Each generation keeps kicking the can further down the road, until the ethical and intellectual gap between men and women is so wide that the whole system is threatened.
/r/MGTOW17/11/16 07:31 PM
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I guess it's workable in the short term, but there's no way to maintain that facade in a long term relationship. Everyone breaks eventually, and you end up with a woman that resents you for "wasting her time".
/r/MGTOW17/11/16 06:17 PM
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True, been there myself. Fortunately, the pain subsides with time and you develop coping mechanisms.
/r/MGTOW17/11/16 06:09 PM
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Oh, he was hardly redpill- must have picked up that tendency from his dad, same as I did from him. Unfortunately, with a wife around his neck he didn't have the time or energy to question wether this approach was really doing him any good.
/r/MGTOW17/11/16 04:54 PM
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Yeah. It's interesting how your own mother seems like one of those unicorns until you do the math for yourself.
/r/MGTOW17/11/16 04:50 PM
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Not sure where suicide fits in here, but it's clearly no way to win. It's a loss by all accounts. Wouldn't wanna be in his shoes though, that's for sure.
/r/MGTOW17/11/16 03:16 PM
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Thank you for the insight on the boys-only environment. Gives me hope for the future.
/r/MGTOW04/11/16 12:51 AM
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When feeling starved for attention, it's tempting to give away any help or information at the slightest interest of a woman. Of course, we all know how that turns out. I agree on the silent treatment- it's a powerful tool, especially when combined with avoiding to look directly at them. When properly applied, it's a good tool to punish unreasonable behavior.
/r/MGTOW03/11/16 11:08 PM
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They will try and keep their info on you up to date, especially mothers- which might well be the purpose of the regular calls. As for bosses and colleagues- they know the financial part, but not the social one. Any small talk they attempt to start is also an opportunity to deny information.
/r/MGTOW03/11/16 01:42 PM
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Well, they do expose our vulnerabilities in the process, giving us the opportunity to rise above them. Counting my blessings, I guess.
/r/MGTOW03/11/16 12:29 AM
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A good deterrent to new women, but mothers and relatives will keep tabs on you. There is the temptation to use whatever you give them to put you down in creative ways- so it might be better to keep them guessing.
/r/MGTOW03/11/16 12:12 AM
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Yeah, that's part of the reason, and it does happen a lot. Better not give them any additional ammunition, since I would have nothing to gain by it anyway. Anything you say can and will be used against you. Fortunately, you do have the right to remain silent.
/r/MGTOW02/11/16 11:58 PM
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