Please help a lost man!

Ubernaut84 · 2016-12-26T05:46:11+00:00

People shouldn't avoid you because you're "redpilled". I have a ton of friends. DO NOT PREACH THIS STUFF TO YOUR FRIENDS. I'll take a wild guess that you turned into a prick because you started looking down on your friends for being "blue pill" and... you didn't tell them they were blue pill, did you? Man. Working at a job is not slavery. Work is what men do best. So if you want to feel better, the first thing you need to do is get off your ass and find work. Some of your mental problems may also let up when you feel the satisfaction of gaining self-sufficiency.

My best advice to you is, "Don't walk around with MGTOW and TRP dogma in the forefront of your mind all day." I know that may sound strange. Just use it to keep you out of trouble with women and stay productive. Don't worry about trying to save society or enlighten all the other men around you. That isn't your job.

If you sit around playing video games all day, you do not deserve to call yourself "redpilled". You're being a filthy neckbeard. Time to man the fuck up and take charge of your life. No scapegoats.

Last thing. You absolutely should give a "FUCK" about what people think of you. Sometimes the difference in a man who gets a lot of breaks in life, and the man who gets NO breaks, is his REPUTATION! if you gain a reputation for being a whack job that doesn't give a fuck about how he is perceived by others, don't be surprised when nobody wants to help you. TL;DR: Start giving a fuck. Treat people right, and don't be repulsive.

OldRoad · 2016-12-26T06:45:59+00:00

I suggest talking to a medical doctor. You may have something going on medically that is treatable, and that may not really have much to do with MGTOW, etc.

In my opinion, MGTOW should make a person feel better about themselves, not unhappy. Because you won't need approval from women to make you feel good about yourself. However, in my view, I don't think MGTOW has anything to do with skipping friendships, work, etc., that you would like to have in your life. Some people are happy with lots of time alone, and some people want to retire early as a goal. But it sounds like right now you really want to have friends and a job.

I think lots of people go through times in life that are more difficult, including lots of people in this group. I think it would help you to remember that others have gone through similar experiences to what you are describing. I suggest starting with the doctor's appointment to treat any possible medical issues first, that may be making you unhappy and not feeling like doing things. Then you can get going with a job and friendships. And while this is an MGTOW group, MGTOW is a decision for YOU to make because that is what YOU want to do -- it shouldn't be something that you do for some other reason. This is just my advice. Hope this is helpful.

existentialawakening · 2016-12-26T07:32:26+00:00

Hi there.

From what I read, it seems like you have problems with external validation, shame, and prospects for the mgtow life. Let me just tell you this first, there is happiness beyond the red pill rage and depression.

Validation:

Most mgtow are aware that male societal standards and worth are born from the false doctrine, worship, and pedestalization of love and sex. Therefore, we reject the pursuit of women. Fuck society's perception of what a man should be, I am a free man, I define my own worth and standards. However, I would extend this rejection of dependency, to not only women, but everyone. I advocate true autonomous happiness: the rejection of a need, attention, approval, and affection of people (friends, family, romantic partner, acquaintances, everyone) for happiness. You see, there is a distinction between male societal worth and general societal worth. One defines what a man should be, the other defines what a person should be. Therefore, reject that too. You determine your own worth. Every time you self-censor, alter your normal behavior, pretend to be someone you are not, or try to become someone you are not, to appease and fit the mold of society, you degrade yourself, you degrade your worth. You are thereby telling yourself, that you are not good enough for society and you need to be. Fuck society. Don't care if people don't like you, don't care if people like you, just don't care. You don't derive your worth and happiness from other people, but by your hobbies, interests, and passions. You don't need direct relationships, but you can still enjoy the company and works of others. Just be aware of your thought processes, keep yourself in check, and try to never self-censor. If you have to self-censor, do it at the bare minimum, and be aware that you are not doing it for attention, approval, and affection, but because of the practicality and restrictions in your environment.

Shame:

Understand determinism and the illusion of free will. We are all just doing the best we can, we have zero control in our lives. Detach yourself from your ego, you cannot truly feel pride and shame in who you are and anything you do, think, and feel. You cannot truly take responsibility for your actions and your existence. You are simply a marionette and witness to your life, conscious of the predetermined story, but not being able to veer from it's path. Life is unfair, don't truly worry about something that is out of your control, which is everything, so don't worry at all. Simply live life and pursue happiness and freedom. Accept the unfairness, uncertainty and the uncontrollable. Accept the whims of the universe.

You can accept determinism, and use it as an excuse to do the bare minimum or give up, or, use it as determination to fight harder. Although, we really have no control in our lives, we still have to live life with vigor and take accountability for everything we do. It's a manipulation of perspective and attitude. Fuck the past, you can't change it anymore. The universe fucked you, you're not going to let it fuck you again. Fight for what's in front of you now, or else the grandness of the universe will consume you. Don’t view yourself in relation to the world, view the world in relation to you. Stand your ground and scream, “I HAVE PURPOSE HERE, I WILL SURPASS MY LIMITS, I WILL ACHIEVE GREATNESS”. Don’t let the world impose itself onto you, impose yourself onto the world.

Prospects:

As a mgtow, you are not a slave to your impulses. You override irrationality with rationality. You treasure and guard your self-worth. You don't need affection from anyone. No one can hurt you anymore. You were sick of the pain from participating in society, so you rejected the volatile fickleness of it all. What's next? Freedom. No one is dictating what you should or should not be doing anymore. You live life for yourself. You do what makes you happy. And you put yourself at work because going mgtow comes at a cost. A cost that is insignificant compared to your previous life. You throw yourself at your work and accumulate money. Why? Because with an abundance of money, you can afford a comfortable living till old age death. You also have to take care of your health. You know what it's like to deal with debilitating physical chronic pain and the depression that comes with it. You're going to avoid that. You're going to take care of yourself, eat healthy, workout, and stretch. Remember, by going mgtow, you are now alone in this world. You have to rely on yourself for your own happiness and protection. So you work hard and enjoy the liberation of your own strength. You live life to explore your hobbies, interests, and passions. Your goal is not something inane like love and status, but something more meaningful. Your goal is autonomous happiness and self-actualization. You answer to no one. You are a man going their own way.

lonewolf-chicago · 2016-12-26T07:05:16+00:00

First of all you need to go see a doctor to make sure that you are healthy. You keep talking about parasites and Lyme disease, if you have that shit you need to make sure that a doctor takes care of it.

Second of all go find new friends stop bitching and moaning about your old faggot friends. Go find a boxing gym go find a jiu jitsu place go take a karate class go start lifting at the gym you will feel better physically after you visit the doctor.

zezozio · 2016-12-26T07:25:18+00:00

As so often with walls of texts, the proof is in the pudding:

I also didnt want to work beacuse i felt that is like slavery...

This sub is MGTOW for MEN GTOW not BGTOW - boys GTOW. You need to work. To feel proud of your achievements, to be useful.

STOP living like a leech to your parents, earn a living, pay a rent, learn to cook and clean, live alone and... you'll find yourself. You're utterly lost because you don't work and are good for nothing. No amount of (TRP) lifting is going to help you.

A man needs to WORK. Even the guys living in the woods are working their asses off to cut trees and provide for their food.

So... stop being a lazy mama-boy and go make a living for yourself.

You might also look between your legs, just beneath your scrotum : you'll find a pair of balls, they might get useful in the future. Right now, I'm reading a boy. You're old enough: give up your toys and go make a Man out of yourself.

Make yourself useful and earn your living, lazy fucker!

Windsofchange92 · 2016-12-26T08:51:59+00:00

Do what makes you happy. Fix your depression then fix your health. Dont get trapped in the cycle of depression. Change your life. Dont always listen to MGTOW. The funny thing is your supposed to go "your own way" not what mgtow tells you. MGTOW just gives guidelines and warnings. They dont have to be followed. That is the joy of it. So just do what makes you happy man. Also become self reliant because a job is a necessary evil. Money buys freedom but dont sacrifice happiness for it. If youd like to hear more id b e happy to help. Merry Christmas.

hb8only · 2016-12-26T08:58:29+00:00

..very similar to my situation

1) YES! mind and body are connected! you feel lost = mind don't know what to do = body shutting down food processing = diseases.

solution: MUST find something (not SOMEBODY!!) to live for - and body will be forced to work correctly

2) must find job! working with colleagues - 8 hours are off the day and you feel important and productive!

3) I still have problems accepting full red but this xmass was the first one when I wasn't depressed of having no gf - so it is improving in time I think...

gods_bones · 2016-12-26T11:23:58+00:00

You are depressed because deep down you are still blue pill. You identify as red pill because you know it is right and because you want to identify with us, but you are still shackled by brainwashing. Taking the red pill and going mgtow is not something to be depressed about, it is your strength and your armor.

Only women hate work. Men might hate the job they currently have, but men don't hate work because work is fulfilling. It is the exploitation surrounding the work you do that is sickening (ask any inventor who needs a salesperson to sell his product). But work is a source of pride, and what should make you prouder is knowing you enjoy it enough to carry on for 50 years, while the women around you are lazy and scared and are looking for a way out wi th an exit dathe of 5 years from now

Mgtow is freedom and freedom is independence. You have been brainwashed by women to think freedom and alone time are bad things that must be eradicated. They can't eat alone. They can't watch movies alone. They can't go to the fucking TOILET alone. Can you piss by yourself in an empty room? Yes? Then you are already superior to 99% of the females on this planet. You have nothing to fear about being alone and having no friends because while they are out wasting thousands of $$$$$ trying to get laid and ending up with a kiss on the cheek, you are focusing on developing your future and your wealth and retiring early as a rich independent man who can do whatever the fuck he wants with his time and money.

Time and money are the ONLY resources that matter in this world. Ask any billionaire. You are on that righthe path. All you have to do is embrace it with open arms.

AverageRedditer22 · 2016-12-26T12:08:12+00:00

Check that stomach issue out
Don't force the redpill into other people's lives
Tell your parents (preferably your dad) or someone (preferably a male who is also redpilled) about your issues
Reduce the amount of time spent on video games and do something active e.g soccer/football, basketball etc.

kempff · 2016-12-26T05:35:13+00:00

I'd love to help you but your unparagraphed wall of text tells me you are so inconsiderately self-centered that you are psychologically incapable of profiting from outside advice.

visions_of_mgtow · 2016-12-26T13:03:00+00:00

Most of those issues are self-inflicted, due to boredom. When there is nothing better to do, people tend to focus on their issues, causing them to grow- until they are so big that the person is hardly able to function.

Of course, you can't go from 0 to 90 in one leap- the key is easing yourself into the idea of what you feel is an acceptable lifestyle for you. Don't get stuck in why it can't be done, just try to see what you would rather be and do- it has to be something reasonable, of course.

In the meantime, doing things for others is a good use of time. If you're not fond of going outside, there is plenty of stuff to do for others online, depending on your skillset. Parents don't count. The key is doing something productive- eventually the momentum will pick up and opportunities will present themselves.

It's essential to no longer fight your current predicament. You cannot win, since you are fighting yourself. Embrace the pain, and do whatever little good you can for the world. Change comes when you least expect it.

MaunaLoona · 2016-12-27T10:49:59+00:00

Depression is not a mental illness but a normal response to an environment. You are miserable because you are not in control of your life. I know you've heard it a thousand times before, but I'll say it again: Get a job, move out, and become independent from your parents. The difference between now and then will be drastic.

Title	Please help a lost man!
Author	kopy_01
Upvotes	9
Comments	29
Date	December 26, 2016 5:27 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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