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| 3 | MGTOW country songs?Best one that I know of is "Wrong" by Waylon Jennings. If you give it a listen, it'd be fun to hear what you think of it. | /r/MGTOW | 16/05/21 08:28 AM |
| 12 | Friend's wife tried to set me up with a woman. Further proved to me that women have no understanding of what men wantI have never had anyone try to introduce me to a woman of the type that I would be very, very attracted to. They could very well be nice people, but it would be like spending time with a friend. It wouldn't be fair to anyone. The fact that romantic relationships have all kinds of risks these days (especially marriage) means that it makes even less sense to go in that direction unless you've got a ridiculously good reason. It does not make sense to go in that direction with someone that one is ba… | /r/MGTOW | 26/04/21 07:34 AM |
| 1 | I hate feeling so alone.For the benefits, like improved will power, do I have to actively choose to exercise my meditation-improved abilities? Or do I just automatically have better will power if I meditate, with no additional effort? Thank you for the information. | /r/MGTOW | 27/02/21 05:27 AM |
| 1 | I hate feeling so alone.Is there a particular way that you advise meditating? I have seen different instructions of "how to" over the years. For example, one said to simply close your eyes and try to keep your "mind's voice" silent (that is, the words that people think to themselves in their brain). Another was very unstructured -- basically close your eyes, relax, and imagine being on your favorite beach. That's what I mean by different instructions. Are you talking about a specific way of meditating? Also, how would … | /r/MGTOW | 27/02/21 01:51 AM |
| 2 | I hate feeling so alone.Why is meditation the most important one? How does it help, as far as everyday benefits, practically-speaking? What will it help me do? I thought that, for most people, meditation is just a relaxing break in their day. Is there more to it than that? | /r/MGTOW | 26/02/21 06:00 AM |
| 2 | Guy asks how much your comic book budget was. And look at the trend in the comments.I have both the "Death of Superman" comic book and the Spider-Man #1 (still sealed in plastic bag version) comic book, both from the 1990's. I think around 2010, I looked up what they were worth. Looked to be still around what I bought them for! | /r/MGTOW | 04/01/21 06:03 PM |
| 2 | Field Report from todayThat seems like a lot for her to ask from anyone in dating, but especially when she is only sharing basically her retirement years with the other person in return. | /r/MGTOW | 04/01/21 07:47 AM |
| 5 | Field Report from todayOne of my ex's switches guys about every three years (on average). Sometimes she marries them, sometimes she doesn't. Most people are about halfway through their careers by her age, but she has yet to start her real career. | /r/MGTOW | 04/01/21 07:34 AM |
| 3 | I can’t believe I frequently used online dating appsI never used the phone ones, just the regular dating websites. I used them a lot when I was in my twenties and early thirties and was really trying at dating. I still check them out once in a while, just curious to see the current profiles, but I've quit having any serious expectations from them for many years now. My experience was, if a guy is average-looking, or worse, the odds are just not in his favor -- well, unless the guy is incredibly open to dating most of the women on there. If a guy … | /r/MGTOW | 04/01/21 07:19 AM |
| 2 | Online DatingI understand about checking out online dating from time to time, just out of curiosity. I compare it to using the gambling machines at a casino. You can send an email out knowing that it's unlikely to result in much of anything...but there's always THAT CHANCE! I'm old enough to have seen much of the history of online dating, back to the late 1990's. Anyone remember America Online's dating section? I'm an average or below-average-looking guy, something like that. The response rate to my emails i… | /r/MGTOW | 14/12/20 10:54 AM |
| 6 | How to Deal with Feeling Like So Much of Everything Is Lies These Days?Acceptance and making the most of things seems to be about the only thing that can be done, most of the time. Thanks for basically suggesting those. | /r/MGTOW | 13/12/20 09:44 AM |
| 2 | All you can do is shake your head in disgustPeople would have considered this sign to be cute, back when things were halfway normal. But these days, people trash men so often, that this just comes across as mean-spirited. But there is some honesty, it seems that they don't want people interacting with each other anymore at all if possible, in any way, including in good ways -- they don't want people to be human beings anymore. | /r/MGTOW | 13/12/20 08:39 AM |
| 3 | I’m 28 & I need advice on accepting in uglyI didn't have much success compared to my effort when I was trying to date, so I figured I must not be a very attractive person. Then I read some MGTOW-related material and discovered that only about 1% to 20% of guys have an easy time with dating. That's just an unfair system that works against most guys, it seems like. It is possible to improve in that way, I think, but I also believe that each person, at least in most cases, has an individual ceiling about the best they can get at dating, rea… | /r/MGTOW | 09/12/20 06:02 PM |
| 3 | Fellow men, how do you respond when your family/friends ask about your dating lives, or why you don't have a girlfriend, why you aren't married, etc.?I just say that I've had the experience of a serious relationship, but it didn't work out, and so now I'm just happy enjoying the single life. It doesn't make sense to say anything about MGTOW to most people. For one thing, people have tried to attach a lot of negative ideas to MGTOW that aren't actually part of the philosophy. You don't really need them looking up MGTOW online and thinking that you believe a lot of negative stuff that you don't believe in. Also, I feel like going into a lot of … | /r/MGTOW | 29/11/20 10:20 AM |
| 7 | This is the most important video regarding election fraud. The most telling info at 35 minute mark and I agree. I’m not political but the fact that democracy can be manipulated blatantly is scary.I think there's a part of it where they mention that this was meant as an overview for the public -- I think the point of it was that this did not represent everything they may present to the court system. However, they did share quite a bit of information about why they believe what they do. | /r/MGTOW | 20/11/20 09:50 AM |
| 6 | This is the most important video regarding election fraud. The most telling info at 35 minute mark and I agree. I’m not political but the fact that democracy can be manipulated blatantly is scary.They addressed exactly what you are talking about in the news conference today, if you watch all of it. | /r/MGTOW | 20/11/20 05:52 AM |
| 3 | W*men and dating: “Make me laugh”I can tell you from my own experiences, humor, in and of itself, doesn't make much difference in dating. Now, I'm not some professional comedian, but I did have the ability, with some effort, to at least get a smile out of some women. Sometimes, they would even admit it to me, if I were emailing them on some dating website. I almost never got a serious romantic relationship, and never a successful one. Why do they put it on their profiles? Well, they have to write something. Who doesn't like to … | /r/MGTOW | 05/11/20 08:08 AM |
| 1 | Chat with an older MGTOW todayI'm nowhere near 80, but I haven't dated in well over 10 years now, after spending several years of my twenties and thirties trying to date. The most serious romantic relationship that I ever had, by far, was someone with all kinds of personal problems, who refused to actually do much to help with our household, and showed signs that she was cheating on me toward the end of the relationship. Aside from that relationship, it was like a repeat of disappointments. Attracting the attention, and then… | /r/MGTOW | 23/10/20 05:30 AM |
| 5 | My neighbors are so shitty ...Personally, I'd try to avoid people like that. I've had women that had never even met me, go out of their way to be disrespectful to me, just because someone told them that I wasn't a "cool" person. They think that they are making some sort of point, but they have no idea how they really come across to others. Just think how horrible their personalities are, and, if they don't change, how awful middle-age will be for them. They'll look increasingly wrinkled, and they'll have a difficult time fin… | /r/MGTOW | 18/10/20 04:11 PM |
| 1 | Guys I'm a senior in HS here, and looking back now, I kinda feel like I missed out a lilI am glad if anyone can take anything positive away from my experiences. Many times when I was feeling unhappy or under a lot of stress, I often felt like I was traveling by myself on a long empty road, even though I always at least had great family support. But, for example, I never had that feeling of freedom in college like you see on TV and movies -- where everyone is having all kinds of fun socially and they are always going on road trips and so on. For one thing, I was a poor student, didn… | /r/MGTOW | 18/10/20 06:30 AM |
| 5 | Guys I'm a senior in HS here, and looking back now, I kinda feel like I missed out a lilMy high school experience, as well as my college experience, was filled with embarrassment, tiredness from having to study so much, just a few friends, not really having a good idea of how to deal with what I was going through, and so on. In my opinion, I neither asked for, nor deserved much, if any, of the bad treatment that I got from others. And I made it worse on myself by feeling bad about myself, instead of being a friend to myself. Life has also given me some wonderful gifts, but sometime… | /r/MGTOW | 18/10/20 06:08 AM |
| 3 | Other countries to live in that aren't retarded?You have to consider carefully when you think about leaving your home country. For one thing, for most of us, where we live is tied very much to where we can have a good job. Another thing is that it's usually expensive every time a person moves, and I imagine it's even more expensive to move to another country. Yet another issue is that you are outside of your element when you go to another country -- there may be differences socially and so on, that you are not aware of until you get there. Yo… | /r/MGTOW | 13/10/20 12:52 PM |
| 4 | You can't even enjoy a show without tons of political propagandaMost of the shows that I watch are non-mainstream in some way, either a non-mainstream sport, or small independent online shows, or alternative/independent news shows. The quality is so much better, and I actually learn about things like economics (for example). Compared to that, watching mainstream news is like watching very poorly-disguised political advertising. I believe that more people would quit watching the mainstream, if only they knew someone to point out the propaganda in what they ar… | /r/MGTOW | 06/10/20 11:25 AM |
| 2 | You can't even enjoy a show without tons of political propagandaReally? Are they actually adding new over-the-air channels? I grew up with no cable, decades ago, and you could get maybe 20 channels at most -- and new channels were rarely introduced. With so many people having cable and satellite, I assumed that over-the-air channels would have decreased, if anything. What types of channels and networks make up those 70 channels? | /r/MGTOW | 06/10/20 10:37 AM |
| 4 | thank you God that Kathleeen Kennedy no longer has controlEven though I'm quite old, I never saw the very first Star Wars (the one from the 1970s) until around the late 90s. To be honest with you, here is why I think the original Star Wars became legendary: The story itself is actually quite simple, by today's standards. You don't have to be a science fiction fan to understand it, and to get into it. Compare that with some of these superhero movies today -- I think that they are probably designed to be watched as a set. If you don't know anything about… | /r/MGTOW | 30/09/20 05:39 AM |
| 3 | My uncle is having a midlife crisis and looking for a wife in RussiaThe thing that I think that your uncle really needs to think about, and be careful about, is: Is his hope being taken advantage of? Think how many women are in his own country. I assume that he already tried in his home country, and is still single. Why exactly does he think that another country is going to be that different? Maybe the online thing is pushing the idea that women in other countries are looking for something different, such that he would have better luck. If it is some sort of dat… | /r/MGTOW | 29/09/20 03:38 AM |
| 2 | Need some advice related on being tactless(19yo)I think that you have some different options. Many times, I haven't fit in with other people, especially other people my age (I fit in better with older people). I get into work, reading, and sports that they aren't into, for example, and I don't have much interest in the sorts of things that they find fun. Some of these people were nice people too, but I just didn't have those things in common with them. I went through times where I tried to fit in, but honestly I didn't have very good results.… | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/20 06:36 PM |
| 3 | So signed up for tinder ...It's sad to read a comment like yours, when you think about the dreams that a lot of us guys had -- we thought we'd find our life partner, and we'd be set for life, moving on to other goals and building our lives together with dream partners. Then so many of us found that the dream just wasn't there for us. We'd never get past that particular goal, or if we did get married, some of us had a bad divorce that set us back. It's such an honest, wholesome dream that it is indeed such a shame when it … | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/20 01:35 AM |
| 1 | So signed up for tinder ...To be fair, some people can't afford all the money for an okay car when they first buy it. | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/20 01:07 AM |
| 2 | So signed up for tinder ...The first woman that I ever dated dropped me for no good reason. She just gave the non-specific sort of reason, that she just wasn't into me, or something like that. She acted like she wanted to continue to be friends, but then would do little things to distance herself from me, like put off talking to each other more and more. (You have to understand that I was not very well-informed about dating back then, and I assumed that people meant what they said in dating. Back then, I also thought that… | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/20 01:02 AM |
| 2 | So signed up for tinder ...I've never tried any of the smart phone dating applications (which it's my understanding that Tinder is), but every so often I've tried the regular online dating websites. As far as I can tell, it's all about whether a guy is physically attractive to women, on those websites. I've got a good job, lots of knowledge in my brain, can chat, had lots of interesting experiences, and am well-educated. But I'm merely average or possibly below average, as far as my physical appearance. I've been open-min… | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/20 12:42 AM |
| 6 | Ngl, but I miss when life was normalThink of it this way: Imagine what it was like to live through the Great Depression or World War 2. This isn't exactly like those two events, but it is its own event in history, as well. We may very well be hearing and reading about it for many decades ahead, long after it's over with. Nobody knows for sure when things will be back to normal, but there are people making pretty reasonable guesses. Hopefully, we will only have to ride this thing out on the level of a matter of months more. When th… | /r/MGTOW | 23/09/20 04:34 AM |
| 1 | Fuck Joe Rogan.If he thought about it for even 30 seconds, wouldn't it occur to him that there are probably guys in those communities who have been through bad divorces, or other bad romantic relationship situations? It comes across as an insult to that community, because it thus doesn't naturally follow that these guys all can't get dates. I've heard a lot about his show but have never seen it. This does not make me want to give it a try. In fact, I don't think I will ever give it a try. I've already heard fr… | /r/MGTOW | 22/09/20 08:12 AM |
| 2 | You have intrinsic value gents - turn off the TV. Turn it off - the news media which is not news and is infotainment is cancer. All the shows on TV now are cancer. Your need and desire to strive and grow is in your bones, your DNA.I find mainstream media to be pretty bad, to be honest, and I avoid much of it. About a week ago, I thought it would be fun to order some old movies on DVD -- like watch all the old classic movies that I've heard so much about over the years, yet never seen start to finish. I kept remembering more and more movies, and pretty soon I had hundreds of dollar's worth of DVDs picked out. This was way more than I thought that I was getting into at first, and it occurred to me that I didn't really have … | /r/MGTOW | 22/09/20 07:30 AM |
| 1 | "Sex and the City" author Candace Bushnell delivers Red Pills from over the wallI didn't watch the video, because I didn't have time. Based on the summary in the original post, I have some thoughts: I don't think that she is correct if she thinks that having kids necessarily means having someone to look out for you as you get older. That might happen, but it's kind of a lottery: it might not happen too. Some kids maintain lifelong friendships with their parents, and do their best to look out for them in their retirement years. However, some kids form their own families and/… | /r/MGTOW | 22/09/20 06:50 AM |
| 5 | The Front Page of Reddit...Maybe a good description would be: All the information in the world, but less meaning. Four years ago, reddit was a very interesting and active place. Then, I don't know any statistics about this, but it FELT LIKE half the people just left. It's not just reddit either. It seems like a lot of the big mainstream Internet websites went in this direction; they became less active, more boring, or both. There are still fun, interesting places to go online, but they tend to be lesser-known, and they ar… | /r/MGTOW | 20/09/20 06:46 AM |
| 5 | The Irony of GYOWI'm middle-aged and spend my time working, with my free time spent on peace-and-quiet-type activities that I enjoy. I really don't meet a lot of people in my daily life, and would you believe that there was a woman in her twenties that took an interest in me? And I'm out-of-shape compared to how I used to look. When I was in my twenties and actually in good shape, it was very difficult to find women my age, that I wanted to date, who were interested in dating me. If someone like this woman were … | /r/MGTOW | 20/09/20 04:58 AM |
| 1 | Onlyfans culture is depravedIf we use your estimate of $15 million per day, and we multiply that by 300 days for a year (to make the math easier), then we'd get $4.5 billion, which is way less than $100 billion. Now if the video creators spent 10 years trying to earn their million dollars, that $4.5 billion per year would become $45 billion available over ten years, which is at least almost halfway to $100 billion. So, you make a good point that $100 billion is not an impossible number. However, we are estimating for Youtu… | /r/MGTOW | 19/09/20 09:12 AM |
| 1 | Onlyfans culture is depravedNo, I believe it's 100 billion. Put the following into a calculator: 100,000 x 1,000,000 = For 100,000 people times 1,000,000 dollars. I believe the calculator will return: 100,000,000,000 Which is 100 billion (billion being nine zeros). I apologize if you already know this, but an easy way to do the math is add six zeros in order to multiply by one million. This is similar to adding one zero when you multiply by ten. One way to remember this is, one million has six zeros, so you add six zeros w… | /r/MGTOW | 19/09/20 02:12 AM |
| 5 | Onlyfans culture is depravedIt seems like about a week ago, someone on this MGTOW group already posted about some study regarding what typical income would be on a website like that. (I would never go to a website like that, so I only know what gets posted about it on this MGTOW group.) The study was basically what you might expect: only quite a small percentage of the women do very well with it, while there are all kinds of accounts that are likely making less per hour than a reasonably basic job, and it sounded like quit… | /r/MGTOW | 18/09/20 03:36 PM |
| 2 | Does the wall no longer exist?Incels call you MGTOWs as Men Sent Their Own Way aka incels who use mgtow as a cope. What exact point are they trying to make by saying that? Doesn't "cope" just mean how one responds to a situation, typically to address it somehow? So, let's say that MGTOW is a way to respond to one's experiences in the dating system, to make one's life better. It sounds like they are suggesting that there is something bad about that? If that is the case, I don't understand their point. If something isn't worki… | /r/MGTOW | 18/09/20 02:47 PM |
| 3 | Supposedly living below your means is tacky... Pay for your own shit then. Emphasis on "Lack of resourcefulness"Hmm, I thought dating was supposed to be about "being oneself," and spending time with each other because people enjoy each other's personalities, not to get some emotional buzz about how much money someone is wasting on them. So, she told him that if he is on a budget, then he should plan his dates accordingly, but then she complains that he did exactly that??? I guess we can all be happy that they didn't date, because I think that most of us can agree that it's pretty clear that they wouldn't … | /r/MGTOW | 15/09/20 03:46 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about universal basic income?Let's talk in theory. Let's say that someday automation becomes so advanced that enough consumer products and services can be produced by only 1% of the people working. But how do you get money from the businesses to the consumers so that they can buy the products? There wouldn't be anywhere near enough jobs for everyone, and the imbalance in the labor market would likely mean that what jobs that did exist would be highly underpaid for the value produced. If nothing were done in this situation, … | /r/MGTOW | 14/09/20 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Rollo Tomassi vs MGTOWIf you are talking about "The Rational Male" books, I've read quite a bit of those, and here's the value that I found in those books: Basically, the online men's community had been evolving for years before I noticed it. I didn't have much clue about what they all were talking about. Someone mentioned "The Rational Male," and I read quite a bit of it. The value was, it got me caught up to what all these guys in the men's community were talking about. A lot of the stuff in the book explained pret… | /r/MGTOW | 13/09/20 10:54 PM |
| 6 | Today I realize that I am not aloneMy advice for original poster: I had a horrible time in both high school and college. Seriously, if I told you what I went through, you might barely believe it. It was awful, and I didn't ask for any of it. Feelings are a rough thing to get over. After all, feelings are part of being human. Even now, many years later, some of my unhappy feelings have faded, but I still have lots of times where I feel like I have missed out on things, or I wish that I could have certain changes in my life. Here's… | /r/MGTOW | 08/09/20 01:04 PM |
| 3 | More fds confirmation, that if women dont find you attractive, then you are always the enemy.From my online dating days, I used to write the thoughtful emails that showed that I actually read their dating profile, responded to different parts of their dating profile, and provided lots of information about myself, sometimes even trying to be as entertaining as I could in my email. If it made any difference, that difference was so minor as to not be noticeable. I got a horrible response rate to my emails in online dating. That's one of the most "on its face" puzzling parts of the woman's … | /r/MGTOW | 08/09/20 11:23 AM |
| 4 | Just had a girl with blue hair come up to me and try talking to me....The other thing is that there is probably a reasonable chance that she has no idea why he is acting that way. She may have no idea about MGTOW, about how many guys have had how many bad romantic relationship or dating world experiences. The hair color thing may just be a fun trend to her -- think how long women have been trying different stuff with their hair for fun. To her, she just walked up to a guy and talked to him. I wouldn't have refused to talk to her. I'd say to just be polite. To me, … | /r/MGTOW | 07/09/20 06:00 AM |
| 6 | Miley Cyrus blames her father for the way she acts...What issues does she have? She had a couple of good pop songs, but as a pop star, I found that she did a lot of stuff that didn't make sense, wasn't entertaining, or even took away from her being entertaining as a pop star. I think that she either got bad advice on things to do, or else maybe she had bad-quality ideas and maybe no one was able to talk her out of it. What would have been wrong with just having some good pop songs, and having a fairly typical stage show, with some cool effects? In… | /r/MGTOW | 05/09/20 11:53 AM |
| 2 | Where is this headed or what is the point?I think that the Original Poster could probably have answered a lot of his own post, if he just thought about the nature of a discussion group. As in, there's not just one person here. People may regularly be discovering and joining the group. So we may be getting disappointed people regularly, fresh out of a bad relationship situation. I've been out off the romantic relationship world for a quite a while, but I still find a lot of the stories here interesting. I think that a lot of it is becaus… | /r/MGTOW | 04/09/20 04:11 PM |
| 1 | Fellow mgtow, i need some adviceIf he is going to be single anyway, and if everyone who is going to be sharing the house is fine with it, or even being helped by the situation, then who cares what random people in society think about it? I have a different type of personality, and it has sometimes made it difficult for me to fit in, socially. I got put down a lot in the past, and I wasn't good-looking enough to women to make up for how I was. But one good thing that I learned from all this was that I quit trying for approval f… | /r/MGTOW | 04/09/20 03:56 PM |
| 2 | No desire to work -Advice RequestMy further advice on what you've just said is this: About getting bored or frustrated, you just have to decide that you are going to stick with a situation until you reach your goal. I'll give you an example: I had a really rough time in college. I was very unhappy with a lot of my situation there, for most of my time there. I could have dropped out of college, or transferred to a different college where maybe things would have been better. But I probably would have set myself back a lot in othe… | /r/MGTOW | 02/09/20 11:57 PM |
| 3 | No desire to work -Advice RequestI'm guessing that lack of motivation is probably a pretty common issue. I suspect that people just don't talk about it because they are sensitive about admitting to such a thing. After all, wouldn't we all like to be as super-productive as possible, getting things done from morning until night, and always having special projects and extra things going on? And never letting tiredness affect us, and even never wasting a minute when home after work. But real life is real life. People do get tired. … | /r/MGTOW | 02/09/20 12:38 PM |
| 1 | So here's my issue with MGTOWI made an effort at dating for about a 15-year time period. There were indeed some happy moments. I'll even say that I don't regret some of it, since I got to have some experiences such as romantic relationships that were different from the other experiences in my life. That being said, looking back, I wouldn't have spent so much time and effort at it as I did, if I knew what I know now, as far as how the whole dating system works and how it really doesn't seem meant for the average guy (at leas… | /r/MGTOW | 02/09/20 11:28 AM |
| 7 | Cardio B's WAP shows what women are nowIf it's the music video that was just released, that I am thinking that it is, then you should know that this music video would have probably been called disrespectful and against women, by feminists back in the 1990's. Now it is apparently considered pro-feminist. Actually, the music video would probably even be said to be against women these days, if it were released by someone outside of the mainstream entertainment industry. It seems that everything has become about picking a side, and picki… | /r/MGTOW | 01/09/20 02:37 PM |
| 21 | You stop feeling attracted to women once you realize they're all the sameI think that guys hope that they can start out as friends with beautiful women, and that that will give them the chance to possibly date those women later, when they otherwise would not have been able to date them. From what I've seen and heard, it doesn't work that way. Or, if it does, it's pretty rare. Or maybe they get a chance to date someday, but it's not the sort of thing that goes anywhere. At least, that appears to be what usually happens. One of the most disappointing things about roman… | /r/MGTOW | 01/09/20 01:33 PM |
| 2 | Is open marriage the best option?Everything else being equal, I don't think that a guy would prefer an open relationship. I think that one reason that guys consider it is that they figure that it's either that or no romantic relationship that they would want. I think most of us agree that the dating system's way of determining the value of people is a horrible way. One needs to find a different way to judge one's own value, how good of a person they are, in a way that is fair to oneself. If one values themself, I think they are… | /r/MGTOW | 31/08/20 07:04 AM |
| 1 | Is open marriage the best option?From what I've heard about open relationships, it sounds like a really bad idea. I mean, it's basically not being in a romantic relationship. You can argue that it's worse than that, because I'm guessing that one would still have some of the common responsibilities and risks of marriage -- yet one's spouse would be going out chasing after the guys that she is "actually" attracted to. Who would want to be in that situation, much less agreeing to be in that situation, as with open "romantic" relat… | /r/MGTOW | 30/08/20 09:34 AM |
| 2 | MGTOW is going mainstream and they are realizing it’s rooted in truth!Is that quote from the article? If so, is it talking about MGTOW? If so, what exactly is it trying to prove? If the quote is saying that MGTOW is bad, my response is that all MGTOW is, is basically deciding to stay single. Marriage or single is a personal decision that each person should have the right to make for themselves, in every country that I'm familiar with. If guys aren't getting married, it's because the conditions aren't such to cause them to decide to get married. It's pointless if t… | /r/MGTOW | 29/08/20 06:00 AM |
| 1 | Is being a PUA cringey as hell?I remember asking this group, quite a while ago, what they thought about the various dating systems out there. Do they really make any difference, or are guys going to do about the same either way? The response I got was all over the place. Some thought dating systems worked, and other people doubted it. The basic dating system advice that I heard about, whether or not it worked, seemed like a lot of time spent working on dating skills, and a lot of money spent on things like expensive clothing.… | /r/MGTOW | 24/08/20 08:25 AM |
| 2 | How Cardi B and Meg Thee Stallion destroyed womenTo be honest with you, I don't think the video shows the women as powerful. If you listen to the male voice loop at the beginning of the video, it is actually insulting the women in the video. The video is basically as close as they can get to adult entertainment and still be a music video. I know that feminists don't seem to like this MGTOW group, but I can understand the feminists who encourage women to become doctors, scientists, and engineers, to work hard and get educated and do something g… | /r/MGTOW | 24/08/20 04:13 AM |
| 14 | Translation: fuck chad and tyrone in your 20s and use billy beta for his resources in your 30sWhen I read this, I was pretty sure this was a famous quote, because it seemed like I had read it before. Does anyone know if she has ever further commented on this quote? It sure does explain a lot of everyday guys' dating experiences -- like how they try to be the nice guy that they think women want, and get almost no dates. Is she aware how it comes across to guys? Has she commented on that? It seems like she is suggesting that women should spend their twenties (and maybe their thirties also)… | /r/MGTOW | 23/08/20 07:14 AM |
| 4 | How Cardi B and Meg Thee Stallion destroyed womenAre you talking about the music video with all the big cats in it? I don't watch many new music videos anymore, but I read some people writing about it online, so I was curious and watched it. Well, it does has some top-quality video effects and artistic designs. Even just because of that, I can see it coming across as an event in music videos. Aside from that, I'm pretty much lost on what people see in the song or video. Maybe I'm just too old now and have lost connection with today's music. Th… | /r/MGTOW | 23/08/20 06:24 AM |
| 1 | Not convinced on this MGTOW thing but I’m willing to listenI don't think MGTOW requires you to blame women for anything. I blame the overall system for my romantic experiences and disappointments. I don't think that women designed the system to be that way or wanted me to be disappointed -- it's just that our current system gave me those results. You are 100% right that people aren't perfect, men included. I also have seen where the guys that women seemed to like were not necessarily the nicest guys. I do think there are some nice guys who are able to d… | /r/MGTOW | 19/08/20 04:45 AM |
| 12 | Advice; don’t try to bring up/explain MGTOW to distant family membersAnd as he was trying to explain it to them, my uncle said “I think that these are just a bunch of sad lost, pathetic men that have no purpose and just complain on the internet.” It sounds like he doesn't have the information to understand why someone would go in a MGTOW direction, and also it's possible that he assumes that the world treats everyone the same way that he has experienced. Sometimes people have to have had an experience in their own life to be open to understanding what other peopl… | /r/MGTOW | 11/08/20 05:55 PM |
| 2 | How Did I Become the Last Single Person in My Friend Group? - effects of MGTOWI wonder what she would think if someone told her that life and happiness is not all about dating the "hottest" person that one can find. In the old days, that was something that people got out of their system by the time they were 30, if they ever had it in their system at all. It wasn't meant to be a phase to be stuck in for one's entire time as an adult. Life is not about money either, although money can be a useful tool to help do meaningful things in life. Career goals can matter a lot, but… | /r/MGTOW | 11/08/20 06:37 AM |
| 1 | Fuck Tinder.If I am reading a dating profile like that one, back when I was still serious about online dating, I'd see it as someone trying to be cute with their profile. Now as well, I think that's what the person is doing with it. When you've been through lots of disappointment with online dating, and gave up on taking it seriously a long time ago, it's not so entertaining to read dating profiles anymore. Why? Let me give you an example. I used to see profiles with long, thoughtful messages from women, wo… | /r/MGTOW | 10/08/20 06:37 AM |
| 7 | Feminists editing Wikipedia: Art and Feminism Wikipedia Edit-a-thonI gave them a nice donation once or twice. Then I started to notice how useless it was getting for anything relating to political or social commentary. It's okay for basic stuff like how many Mario video games there have been -- that type of thing. But honestly, the way they've allowed it to be used for propaganda kind of lessens my wanting to use it for any information at all. I don't plan on ever donating to them again. | /r/MGTOW | 09/08/20 06:37 AM |
| 3 | Ex Wife left me for a rich guy. Now she's single and wants me back.You could tell her that you've bought her a new house and a new car. Then you could send her one of those Christmas "snow globes" with a little house inside of it, plus a tiny toy car. I'm just trying to be funny. Please don't actually do that. | /r/MGTOW | 05/08/20 05:30 PM |
| 15 | Guys, it's fucking hard...When I was with my now-ex, there were probably guys who saw her and wished that they were in my spot at the time. What they wouldn't have known is all the problems that my ex had, behind the scenes. Financial, personality, career, and so on. Looking back, I think that my ex was just looking for a guy to provide everything for her, while she had to do almost nothing with her life, and couldn't even avoid having serious problems even then. Toward the end of that relationship, I found myself thinki… | /r/MGTOW | 05/08/20 04:46 AM |
| 2 | A Story from My Online Dating ExperiencesSee the last four paragraphs of the original post. | /r/MGTOW | 03/08/20 09:04 AM |
| 1 | Did anyone else here have very little interest in relationships/marriage even before they went MGTOW?Original poster used the word "coping." I've seen people mention this word on this group before, if I remember correctly. Can someone please explain this "coping" to me? Why is it usually talked about as something bad, or even as almost a kind of put-down? Doesn't everyone "cope" with situations? | /r/MGTOW | 04/03/20 11:37 AM |
| 1 | [Serious] I need desperate help/adviceWhen I was in my twenties, I felt a huge need to find my perfect partner in life. I put a lot of pressure on myself, and went through a lot of disappointment when it never would work out for me. Back then, I didn't know of anything like MGTOW. So, all I knew to do was keep trying and trying, until I wasted so much time and slowly faded out of the dating world, just because I was losing hope with it. That's about the time I discovered MGTOW. So anyway, you already have a huge advantage that you c… | /r/MGTOW | 02/03/20 06:09 AM |
| 11 | Post-wall whore struggles to walk after fall during Paris concert, bursts into tearsI've listened to, and collected, a whole lot of popular music over the years. As for representing women in popular music, I have to give credit to Madonna as one of the top ones. That being said, I think that her best work was done by 2005 -- and really, she's probably always going to be known mainly for what she did from the 1980's to the mid or late 1990's. Another thing is that I don't think that her public image, in the past 20 years or so, has been the best fit for the part of her career th… | /r/MGTOW | 01/03/20 05:43 AM |
| 17 | All entries at Urban Dictionary for MGTOW and MRA are now negativeI'm not talking about any particular online website, but be careful about any online information website once it becomes very popular. That seems to draw attention to it from anyone looking to control public opinion, for whatever reason. They probably count on most of the public not thinking about this, and going to the most popular websites, whenever they want to find out more about something new that they just heard about. How to deal with this? From what I have read, it is usually very diffic… | /r/MGTOW | 27/02/20 07:10 AM |
| 7 | Caved and got heart brokenI think that a lot of people here would certainly agree with with you about how bad it can feel to be broken up with. Maybe the reason that it doesn't seem to you like people here talk about it so much, may be because there is no real "trick" to dealing with it. You have to feel those feelings and then move forward with your life anyway. If you are looking for something arguably philosophical about all this, I'll give you an example from my own life. One of my ex's especially, I really liked her… | /r/MGTOW | 18/02/20 06:14 AM |
| 1 | Anyone else stopped watching things made from the west?I used to like all kinds of movies, TV, and music. Then the 2016 U.S. election happened, and I watched all that Hollywood and other mainstream media talking down to a very large part of the U.S. And the whole thing was so one-sided that it SEEMED fake, organized, and planned (whether or not it really was). That really made me walk away from buying Hollywood and mainstream media products. I have probably spent thousands of dollars LESS on their movies, TV, and music since then -- in fact, I buy a… | /r/MGTOW | 07/02/20 07:11 AM |
| 7 | I'm proud to say that I no longer care what anybody thinks of me, and I'm going my own way.A lot of my successes in life are tied to that I make my financial and living situation decisions pretty much independently, instead of trying to do whatever most other people around me are doing. For example, I've gone for fair lengths of time without owning a car, even though I could have afforded one. There are people out there who almost can't imagine such a thing. But I lived in a big city, lived near most of the places that I needed to go to (most of the time), and I wasn't interested in w… | /r/MGTOW | 04/02/20 09:39 AM |
| 2 | Pof exchangeThe best explanation that I ever found for online dating is that the women are probably mostly just chasing after the top 5% to 20% of guys. If you are a regular-looking guy, online dating is probably not in your favor. We all know how people act when they are interested in something. They don't say, "Maybe I'll wait three weeks." When I tried online dating for years, I certainly saw a whole lot of women just flat-out not seeming to care if they dated at all. Well, what that really meant was tha… | /r/MGTOW | 02/02/20 07:58 AM |
| 2 | Millennial women smashing the wall and being mainly singleThey should give money back if you already paid off your loans, and they forgive the loans of others, in my opinion. It seems that it would be only fair. | /r/MGTOW | 31/01/20 03:38 AM |
| 5 | Now I am attractive all of a suddenSure. a. When I started looking for a job after college, I applied online for every reasonably good job posting that I thought that I might get hired for. I also sent tons of resumes to basically every major employer in my field. I had very little results from this, which made me rather sad. Only later on did I find out that those are two of the least effective approaches to finding a job. b. For years, I had a difficult time maintaining a healthy weight. I had a busy job, and I could get going … | /r/MGTOW | 29/01/20 12:04 PM |
| 2 | Honestly curious as a womanI think that you are thinking that individual opinions on this group all necessarily equal MGTOW ideas. All MGTOW is about is being single, if that is the best thing for you. We all should have the right to decide that for ourselves anyway. As far as some of the negative opinions here, that I assume is what you are referring to, you can imagine that a regular stream of new arrivals here are likely fresh out of some romantic relationship disaster -- like maybe a really bad divorce that they feel … | /r/MGTOW | 29/01/20 05:38 AM |
| 14 | Now I am attractive all of a suddenIn my time, the mainstream has given me bad advice about: a. How to get a good job. b. How to maintain good health. c. How the romantic world works. It's almost like people are lied to about every single important thing in life that they need to know. | /r/MGTOW | 29/01/20 05:25 AM |
| 3 | Im 22 and my 10+ years senior work colleagues ask "how can you afford 3 motorcycles". "I'm single". They laugh, I laugh. Enjoy your miserable relationships, il be on my speed triple at the weekend while you are at your in-laws.I had a very different view of the world back then. It was over a decade ago, and it was by far the most serious romantic relationship that I ever had. At first, I thought that I had finally found a romantic relationship, the way that it was supposed to be. She was attractive and seemed to really like me. I just assumed that she wanted to do something productive with her life, because I thought that most people did. I had no idea that she was hiding some of her serious personal problems from me,… | /r/MGTOW | 21/01/20 05:51 AM |
| 40 | Im 22 and my 10+ years senior work colleagues ask "how can you afford 3 motorcycles". "I'm single". They laugh, I laugh. Enjoy your miserable relationships, il be on my speed triple at the weekend while you are at your in-laws.There's a lot of truth when people start talking about how expensive it is to be in a romantic relationship. Just before the most serious romantic relationship that I ever had, I got the best-paying job that I had had, up to that point in time. I was focused on just working and paying down debt -- I was paying down about $1000 of debt per month. When I got into the romantic relationship, suddenly my debt started going back up, even though I was making more money than I ever had before. After the… | /r/MGTOW | 20/01/20 03:35 PM |
| 18 | Dad told me if he was 30 again he would have never ever marry anyoneSome people might take a quick look at me and think that I am a loser, because I've never gotten married, and I don't spend money on expensive houses and vehicles that I don't need, just to try to show off and/or attract women. What they DON'T necessarily know is that I've been all over the world and have had a set of great life experiences that a lot of people never get to have. I've mostly run out of things to spend my money on, because I can afford to have the things that I really want. I hav… | /r/MGTOW | 18/01/20 10:23 AM |
| 1 | I used to think MGTOW was right in assessment, wrong in solution... Recently I realized it's right on both counts.I've tried online dating going back to the America Online days. Even back then, I don't think that the average guy did that well with it. However, there were pretty women in their twenties on there back then, who were not single moms. Once in a while, very rarely, one of the pretty women would at least write back at least once to an average guy. When I have seen online dating websites in these later years, it does seem that the database has gone downhill. I'm not saying this to be mean, and I'm … | /r/MGTOW | 17/01/20 03:55 PM |
| 2 | Just learned about MGTOWHere's what helped me: I tried dating for 15 years before I ever learned about MGTOW. In that time, when I tried online dating, most of the time, my email messages were completely ignored. Maybe 5% of the time, I got some sort of response back at all. Of that 5%, maybe 10% of that 5% (or 0.5% of the total) communicated with me for any length of time. Of that 0.5%, maybe 10% of that 0.5% (or 0.05% of the total) actually dated me at all. Out of that 0.05% group, I got exactly ONE serious romantic … | /r/MGTOW | 16/01/20 06:30 AM |
| 3 | Climate changeI can remember reading information on climate change going as far back as the 1980's, when it was referred to as "global warming" or "the greenhouse effect" (not to be confused with the "ozone hole" back then). I totally bought into it back then, way before it was treated as a major political issue. One reason I believed in it is the atmosphere and temperature of Venus -- I think it was explained as a product of the greenhouse effect. Another reason was that I didn't see any reason not to trust … | /r/MGTOW | 15/01/20 06:56 AM |
| 2 | Is Modern Dating Completely Dead?Thank you for the information. I read somewhere that his father died, of what they think was a heart attack, during a taping of a television talk show. Is that true? What a strange thing to happen. | /r/MGTOW | 13/01/20 06:10 AM |
| 2 | Is Modern Dating Completely Dead?Hey, I know this has nothing to do with the post, but may I ask you a question about organic gardening? I think that I read a comment by you a while back that recommended Rodale Press organic gardening books from the 1960's or 1970's. Was that you? If so, I was wondering: Why that time period, and not later books? Just remembered wondering that, and I thought that I would ask you. | /r/MGTOW | 11/01/20 03:30 PM |
| 5 | Why women shouldn’t be politicians 101Will she stop any new student loans too? As weird as this may sound, I wonder if that's why college has become so unaffordable. If we didn't have student loans, it seems like the colleges would have to become affordable to go to, or else they would lose most of their students. | /r/MGTOW | 09/01/20 05:04 AM |
| 3 | Ricky Gervais tearing Hollywood a new one at the Golden GlobesI didn't watch the show when it was on. When I saw the ads for it, I thought it was going to be the usual annoying Hollywood awards show. Then I heard how the host ripped on Hollywood during the show -- now I wish that I had seen it. If someone just stands up there and trashes Hollywood and the very show that they are on -- even without telling jokes -- it would be more entertaining than probably anything else they could put on the show. That is the current state of Hollywood. It used to be for … | /r/MGTOW | 07/01/20 04:38 PM |
| 6 | My review of The Rise of SkywalkerThere's something about the big movies of the late 70's through the 80's, for people who grew up during that time. Honestly, if you made the exact same films these days, I wonder if it would be the same. I'm thinking that it was the right thing at the right time -- something that can't be planned -- it's luck. You can have today's best computer effects, ten times the money spent on the film, the most famous names working on the film, and you probably can't create something like the original Star… | /r/MGTOW | 06/01/20 10:38 PM |
| 4 | My review of The Rise of SkywalkerWas that the one where Batman's costume had fake nipples on it for no reason? | /r/MGTOW | 06/01/20 09:49 PM |
| 2 | Is it sour grapes or aging? Is anyone in the same boat?I'll probably always be a little bit disappointed that things didn't turn out the way that I thought that they would. However, it's just a little bit of disappointment. That's because I gave dating more than a fair try, and then when I read MGTOW-related material later, I discovered that my experiences were very common for other guys too. What that told me was that I was expecting things that just weren't realistic. It's not fair to yourself to be too disappointed when you don't reach some goal … | /r/MGTOW | 06/01/20 12:47 AM |
| 1 | Adios Finland...I'm guessing there were probably times in the U.S. where we had fewer pro-labor rules. And there are still jobs in the U.S. You can even argue that some countries need more pro-labor rules, where people are pushed to work too hard. But I think the problem here is if (1) they don't control their trade policy (and can't tax imports to keep jobs local), and (2) if they are on the Euro. In that case, it's kind of like if a U.S. state did that -- why wouldn't the jobs just go to the state next door? | /r/MGTOW | 06/01/20 12:21 AM |
| 6 | Adios Finland...I was wondering this too. Is Finland in the EU? If so, do they get to set their own trade policy? If not, why wouldn't all the jobs just leave, even just to other European countries? Are they going to be required to pay the same per person, even with lower work hours? If so, it seems like the companies there won't be able to compete with companies in other countries, due to the higher labor costs. It seems like the companies will either leave, or have to charge so much for their products that th… | /r/MGTOW | 05/01/20 11:59 PM |
| 1 | So while Greta Thunberg is going on vacation instead of school, she keeps on bitching about the climate. And she knows leftists are Always there to back her up. I wonder what more this will lead to.If some people think that having one's own country is such a bad thing, then why did so many countries fight to become independent, or to keep their independence, throughout history? Imagine telling military people who fought in such wars that, decades or hundreds of years later, some of the people in their country would actually WANT to give up the very independence that was fought so hard for. Note that this is rarely, if ever, talked about on the news, when talking about these huge multiple-c… | /r/MGTOW | 05/01/20 06:54 AM |
| 3 | So while Greta Thunberg is going on vacation instead of school, she keeps on bitching about the climate. And she knows leftists are Always there to back her up. I wonder what more this will lead to.The mainstream is very focused on solving climate change right now, but here's something that you never see talked about: That same mainstream is buddies with the very wealthy -- a very small percentage of which own a ridiculously large percentage of the world's wealth. If climate change really is going to be the end of the world, all that wealth would be lost, so why don't the top 10,000 wealthiest people in the world just agree to each donate 95% of their wealth to solve the problem? Well, why… | /r/MGTOW | 05/01/20 06:33 AM |
| 8 | The 2010’sI haven't dated in over 10 years, but I don't think that, in my entire time in the dating world, that I ever experienced a dating world that was favorable to the average guy. I used to think that it was just me, but after reading MGTOW-related material, it seems that my experience was pretty common: what they say on this group about 80% of the women only being interested in 5% to 20% of the guys. I think the whole thing goes back to at least the 80's. Look at those classic 80's movies. The women… | /r/MGTOW | 02/01/20 06:21 AM |
| 5 | The 2010’sAnd is MGTOW (some in manosphere argue is a coping mechanism) more a result than a choice? If we are being honest, did most of us really have other options? I don't understand when people use the word "cope" to describe MGTOW, like it is some kind of put-down of the philosophy. Either you can find happiness in the romantic world, or you can't. If you can, why would you go MGTOW? If you can't, why WOULDN'T you go MGTOW? Either choice seems logical to me. What doesn't make so much sense to me is i… | /r/MGTOW | 02/01/20 05:28 AM |
| 1 | The 2010’sWhat about medical advancements in diseases like AIDS, muscular dystrophy, spinal muscular atrophy, and Pompe's disease? From what I understand, the map of the human genetic code is getting better and better, and they are getting better and better at using that knowledge to actually improve medical treatments. You can find lots of successful cancer recovery stories too. Or at least people who are able to stall the cancer for quite a while. Sometimes technology advances in little steps. But these… | /r/MGTOW | 02/01/20 05:13 AM |
| 2 | Cheating bitch wife plays herself and gets what's coming to her (even the comments on that degenerate sub are savage)I wouldn't assume that the husband thinks that he did anything wrong. If she wants to cheat, instead of cheating, she should divorce first, then move on to the next guy. My ex did the nonsense of getting the next guy lined up before leaving me, and that's the most cowardly, disrespectful part of the whole thing. They don't have to stay in an unhappy romantic relationship, but at least do the right thing and leave it honestly before moving on to the next guy. The women that don't do that, I think… | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/19 04:06 PM |
| 8 | This is a Bull...Sh*t...3...Ring...Circus...Side-Show...of...Single-MenWhat are you referring to? Are you talking about this group, some other group, or the greater society? A lot of the stuff that you are talking about doesn't have any special relationship to this group. | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/19 04:52 AM |
| 10 | Tradcons really can't accept that the 20th century has happened.I think that part of the problem with the guy's philosophy is that he acts like people can just get the marriage they want, just by deciding to do so. It takes TWO people! A lot of people are probably on this MGTOW group because they just plain gave up on modern romantic relationships.....it's too difficult for many people to find what they want. It's not so simple as deciding to get married, and it happens -- unless someone marries just ANYONE who can and will marry them, and that sounds like a… | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/19 04:03 PM |
| 12 | Urban dictionary getting triggered about MGTOW and talking crap about us againSome interesting observations about the original post's quote: Note how it acts like the only things that matter in life are what a person looks like and if they are successful at dating. I guess if someone cures a terrible disease, that person gets treated as worthless if they are ugly and can't get a date. What a horrible value system for a society. Look at the use of "normal person," as if this is what makes someone a "normal person," valuing people based on what they look like and if they ar… | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/19 01:52 PM |
| 5 | Urban dictionary getting triggered about MGTOW and talking crap about us againKosmier wrote: I mean everything stated there is true Not at all. They are basically saying that no one here ever had a date, even though people regularly post stories here of bad divorces and other romantic relationships that they had. The most pointless way to rip on something may be to call it things that it isn't. Because then it's just telling all MGTOW that they couldn't argue with what MGTOW actually is, so they had to go into a fantasy world of what it isn't, in order to have enough to w… | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/19 01:35 PM |
| 1 | If this is MGTOW. Why hate against woman. If you’re all like this you’re no better than all the girls you’re talking about.How long did you spend on the group before you posted this? If you spend some time, you'll likely figure out the answer to your own question. The answer is that a lot of guys find MGTOW straight out of bad romantic relationship experiences. Sometimes it's really bad stuff, like a bad divorce. Sometimes, it's years of disappointment, and they decide that they have to give up on their dreams of a romantic relationship. So you see, you are going to get some guys with negative opinions. That doesn't… | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/19 12:56 AM |
| 1 | Alot of men are going MGTOW without realizing it. I see more posts from women complaining men talk to them on dating apps but never ask them out. Men are subconsiously deciding that its not worth it.Let's be fair though. A lot of times, people just don't know what they don't know. Many, many times in my life, I discovered later that I was never told key things to be successful at some of the most important parts of life. Society floods people with so much filler information, that isn't really needed, when so often it would have helped me if they just told me to remember the few most important key things to be successful. The subjects ranged from how to choose a university (imagine choosing … | /r/MGTOW | 24/12/19 10:24 AM |
| 13 | Well Gentlemen, The good news is that they desperately want you all back on the plantation.PEOPLE ARE PAID TO WORK AT THEIR JOBS, NOT FLIRT!!! | /r/MGTOW | 21/12/19 05:12 AM |
| 3 | You guys have changed the way I look at the world.I'm not saying this about original poster, but something I've noticed about people online these days is this: As people seem to be getting less into organized religion, as humans, they still seem to have the same needs that organized religion previously filled for people. For a lot of people, political and other social beliefs seem to be taking the place of past religious beliefs. So now, it seems that people argue over political and social beliefs in the way that they used to disagree over reli… | /r/MGTOW | 15/12/19 03:17 PM |
| 12 | Honest opinion from me an Asian tourist about the west: the west has become a colder place compared to the 90’sI spent 15 years in the dating world, and I feel like it was during a period of time after the dating world broke, but before very many people had noticed that it had broken yet. I have to say how disappointing it is to spend years building yourself up, and doing the things that society says that you should do, and then not being able to find a good partner when in one's twenties, someone who appreciates all that. And I didn't go through everything that I went through in life, only to get to cho… | /r/MGTOW | 15/12/19 01:57 PM |
| 5 | SNL just had a skit with a cuckold who watches "mommy kissing Santa Claus"Was it making fun of the dad as a nerd, or was it pushing the idea that it's cool to have your wife cheat on you? That's two different messages, with a very important difference. They would never be able to get me to agree with the idea that I should be married to someone who openly cheats on me, who doesn't even have to be loyal to me in return. But then again, Saturday Night Live forever lost me as a fan (a previously long-time fan), back in 2016. In my opinion, it's now for people who are tra… | /r/MGTOW | 15/12/19 01:30 PM |
| 2 | Taylor Swift blasts 'toxic male privilege' during Woman Of The Decade speechI bought a Taylor Swift CD after I had quit buying most other music, because I appreciated that Taylor Swift hadn't gone openly political. My understanding is that she has since gone openly political, so I have quit buying her music too. It doesn't even matter to me so much what her politics are, but I'm sick of politics being regularly mixed into entertainment. Not just that, but it's almost always one-sided politics, always the same side, and almost never makes any strongly persuasive points t… | /r/MGTOW | 14/12/19 08:53 AM |
| 7 | "I have been in 11 weddings since I was 21, all 11 are now divorced"Someone used that quote before on this group, but there was more to it back then. I think the full insult was: "From elegant to elephant, I know that you'll never forget it." Does anyone know where the quote is from, or did someone on this group create it? | /r/MGTOW | 12/12/19 01:47 AM |
| 2 | I wish I never discovered datingWhen I was in college, there was this feeling among some people that the "cool" people socialized a lot and went to parties all the time. I focused on my studies, which easily didn't give me time to do that stuff. Actually, the party crowd probably didn't have any more time than I did, but they just made partying more important than studying. My studies were my excuse for not socializing more, but my personality probably played a big part. It just wasn't who I was. The thing is, that didn't stop… | /r/MGTOW | 10/12/19 09:35 AM |
| 3 | Chasing The One across the continent to take the redpill once againI can comment from experience on (so-called) "long-distance relationships." I was a shy guy, and I thought that online dating would be the perfect thing for me, even if it were a long-distance relationship. It would be much easier for me to get to know the woman, and by having a huge group of women to choose from (across the country, continent, even the world), there would be a good chance that I could find women to date who were much more what I was looking for, than if I just went by the small… | /r/MGTOW | 08/12/19 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Not sure why I ever bothered trying to dateYou might not be aware of how lucky you are to have access to MGTOW-related material in your early twenties. Even ten years ago, you couldn't easily run across this stuff. I'm fairly highly educated, and worked my way up into a good place in my career. I'm to the point where I'm getting rewarded for all the hard work that I did when I was younger. Now I'm just staying on track toward retirement, and building a stronger life every year. As an educated guy, I have to say that I was really disappoi… | /r/MGTOW | 08/12/19 04:38 AM |
| 5 | seeing my Highschool ex turn into a mega-slut is pretty weird and probably not good for me, but it’s a massive signMost of my ex's managed to still look good through their thirties, but they seem to have started to truly show their middle-aged-ness in their forties. I saw one, she looked like she was wearing a LOT of makeup, and she still looked middle-aged. Another one, she always looked really good throughout her thirties -- it seemed like she would stay looking great. Well, I finally saw a picture of her for the first time where she is looking well into middle-age. Another one, she is going the opposite o… | /r/MGTOW | 06/12/19 03:46 PM |
| 10 | South park going MGTOW/red pillIf I remember correctly, South Park was way off about why people voted for Trump. They also fell right in line with Hollywood with respect to being against Trump. Normally, South Park seems to take great enjoyment in "pushing buttons," but I guess they just couldn't be independent with respect to Trump -- that's one of the few times I remember the show being like that. | /r/MGTOW | 02/12/19 01:32 PM |
| 3 | Facing your own mortalityOne thing that helped me accept death was having people close to me reach the end of their natural life and pass away. When a person is young, and if they are lucky enough not to lose any of their household family members, it's easier to hold death at "arm's length." "Nothing that will have to be dealt with anytime soon," in other words. When one loses that first really close family member, that security is lost forever. It's no longer something sad that happens to other households. So then, it … | /r/MGTOW | 02/12/19 08:35 AM |
| 2 | Hi. I am totally wrecked after the break-up which I do not understand.I know the experience of things seeming to go great with a woman, then she loses interest in me suddenly for not much good reason. I have experienced at least some of that in all of the most serious romantic relationship and dating experiences that I ever had. I don't think what you said is really what caused the breakup. If she still wanted to be dating you, then she easily could have excused it after you explained. It sounds like she was just looking for any reason to break up. Your sadness ov… | /r/MGTOW | 30/11/19 02:29 PM |
| 12 | How many dates do y’all think she paid for. This is the type of clown shit that younger people think is cool nowadaysThe woman's comment in the original post is some key material for creating MGTOWs. She's getting to have all this fun today, and she's not thinking about the culture that she is helping to create, that could disappoint her and other people, for many years into the future. I read stuff like that comment, and it helps me understand why I had so much difficulty dating in my twenties. It appears that so many of the attractive women just chased after the Chads, dating them for fun as long as they cou… | /r/MGTOW | 27/11/19 07:32 AM |
| 1 | Crazy Ex at it againIf my memory is correct, one thing that I did right away when my most serious romantic relationship ended, was change all of my passwords. I think that I even changed the ones that we used to order pizza with. That may sound silly, but you never know if there's a way they can find to use that account to mess with you, that maybe you haven't thought of yet. For example, if the pizza place stores your payment information, I'd be worried about unknowingly paying for her pizzas with her next guy, fo… | /r/MGTOW | 27/11/19 07:11 AM |
| 2 | Looksmaxing is the new 'game'Even if one can afford it, I'd say don't do it. It's not worth it. Here's a simple thought experiment: Would a woman ever get cosmetic surgery to attract YOU? I think that the answer for most of us is NO. So, why should such a guy get cosmetic surgery? Even if one gets the surgery and starts attracting women because of it, isn't that just confirmation that it's not worth it? That it's basically just physical appearance? Also, for many guys, there is a ceiling to maximum improvement, and it would… | /r/MGTOW | 26/11/19 09:51 AM |
| 3 | Force-Feeding the Alternative NarrativeIn the last romantic relationship that I ever had, the woman was giving every appearance of cheating on me, and would just give me lazy, nonsense excuses that a person would have to be 100% stupid to believe. It was the first time that I had ever experienced this level of that sort of behavior, and it probably has a lot to do with why I haven't dated at all in the decade or so since. It was almost like she was trying to break up with me without having to do so, or else it was a way of insulting … | /r/MGTOW | 26/11/19 04:54 AM |
| 2 | Does anyone else remember that Gillette "toxic masculinity" commercial...When I hear about older relatives who passed away quite a while back, the ones who grew up before television, it's amazing how many played musical instruments, or they had long-time penpals, and so on. I've seen family movies from my cousins from the 60's and 70's, and, even though there was TV, they were part of social clubs, and families would vacation together. It seems like people just lived healthier lives (socially) back then. While I'm sure life wasn't perfect back then, when you read abo… | /r/MGTOW | 25/11/19 09:11 AM |
| 2 | Does anyone else remember that Gillette "toxic masculinity" commercial...How did you manage to escape popular culture going back so far into the past? I think that I pretty much always remember some people making a point to avoid television as a waste of time, and so on, but they always seemed to be rare a long time ago. Of course, a lot of it is a waste of time, but I used to enjoy TV as a cheap, harmless form of entertainment. Back in the 80's and 90's, it felt like Hollywood was mostly just trying to entertain people while making money. But 2015 is when I really n… | /r/MGTOW | 25/11/19 08:03 AM |
| 2 | Does anyone else remember that Gillette "toxic masculinity" commercial...I've mostly quit buying from the entertainment industry, stuff like DVDs and music. I used to spend maybe $2500 a year on that stuff -- now I spend maybe $200 a year on it -- and decreasing. I think there should be some politics in entertainment in a free society. But what I saw was so one-sided -- and I found it to also be inaccurate, with very poor understanding of what they were describing -- their arguments were so bad on their side. It looked like they thought that the public is stupid, and… | /r/MGTOW | 24/11/19 07:00 PM |
| 2 | Does anyone else remember that Gillette "toxic masculinity" commercial...Now, they have made it so that people have to care about the company's politics -- this is because companies have taken to taking sides in politics. So now consumers have to pay attention to that, or their purchase money could be used to push things (like the devaluing of their labor) that they, the consumer, don't agree with. | /r/MGTOW | 24/11/19 06:47 PM |
| 1 | She did worse than cheating on me. Help me Understand.I don't think there's too much wrong with telling kids the Santa Claus story, if it's part of a society which cares about those kids growing up in strong families that stay together and help them have the best lives possible, and then there is a good, fair-paying job for them when they grow up, and they have a good chance at having a strong family life themselves, with economic freedom and not too much debt, all for an honest amount of work. In that environment, telling kids that the presents co… | /r/MGTOW | 24/11/19 06:20 PM |
| 1 | PSA to MGTOW members: Be aware of the push to try psychedelicsIt seems like the push for normalization and legalization of recreational drug use is happening in a lot of areas where the real economy (like factory jobs) and the middle/working classes are going downhill. This seems like a bad situation: taking away so many peoples' hopes and economic independence while making it easier for them to get stuck in regular drug use. | /r/MGTOW | 23/11/19 08:57 PM |
| 1 | Hitting the wall at 200 mph. (What 2 years can do)My guess is that you are getting downvoted over stuff like the lazy comment. I do think that you mean well and are just trying to wake people up. For me, my experience has been that I wasn't lazy but that I was uninformed. I'm losing weight very well right now, and I'm not really working any harder at it than before. The main thing that changed is that I learned about carbs. So, basically, I just didn't know. I can make three parallels in my life experiences: MGTOW, carbs, and looking for a job.… | /r/MGTOW | 22/11/19 04:18 AM |
| 3 | Hitting the wall at 200 mph. (What 2 years can do)I've lost a large amount of weight at two different times of my life. The second time was much more difficult, because I was much busier. For years, I tried to lose weight the same way that I did the first time, and I just couldn't do it. I would diet for a few days, and then I'd suddenly get ridiculously hungry, and I'd break the diet. Then something happened. I did some reading, and I dropped the amount of carbs that I was eating to far less. Somehow my appetite became much more normal and con… | /r/MGTOW | 21/11/19 05:04 AM |
| 1 | How aware and scared are women of the red pill knowledge? I feel as if they are fully aware of what's upWell, I have two things in response to what you wrote: Some people read this group like it's written by a single person, as if everyone here is basically the same. That's not accurate at all. There have been some really negative and upset comments posted on this group -- but you have to keep in mind that some people arrive on this group after some sort of personal disaster in their lives -- such as a bad divorce that sets their life back many years. Their family may break up, and they lose their… | /r/MGTOW | 20/11/19 05:58 PM |
| 3 | How aware and scared are women of the red pill knowledge? I feel as if they are fully aware of what's upOkay, so let's say that I go back to believing that the dating world is totally fair, and that I will be successful and find my perfect partner, if I only keep trying really hard. Guess what? Based on my past experiences, there is a good chance that in ten more years, I'll have spent ten more years disappointed with a combination of more failed dating experiences and wasted time that went nowhere. How does that benefit me? Why would I want to go in that direction? | /r/MGTOW | 20/11/19 11:48 AM |
| 1 | Confidence is a huge part of going your own way. Why now are we seeing a rise in fashionable introversion? Here’s why it’s not good.I'm a naturally shy guy, and I've never really thought much about confident, social people going through getting put down for being that way. But, you know what, I'm thinking that it probably happens a fair amount. People probably make other assumptions about their personalities, that wouldn't necessarily be true. To be honest, I think it goes both ways. A shy person who is quiet and focuses on things that they have to get done -- that person can definitely get put down for being that way. Or pe… | /r/MGTOW | 20/11/19 11:31 AM |
| 3 | Woman shows me how the system works once again... (conversation)When I was in a serious romantic relationship, I was very trusting. I thought that was part of being the best guy that I could be for the woman I was dating. There were a couple of minor things pointed out to me by my friend about her, but I was like, "No, I haven't seen any sign that she is cheating." Then one day, right in front of my face, I saw a sign that she was either cheating, or trying to cheat. I wasn't even doing anything like showing up back home at an unusual time, to see if she was… | /r/MGTOW | 18/11/19 01:50 PM |
| 3 | 24 year old that just opened his eyes before 25I think that there are still a lot of nice, good people out there. People you can talk to who will be completely friendly, just for the sake of being friendly. I think that it's romantic relationships where things have really gone downhill socially. I feel like it's become mere entertainment to a lot of people. So many people want a super-good-looking person (or for some people, maybe a wealthy person) above everything else. At least in the old days, there was respect for a guy who earned an hon… | /r/MGTOW | 18/11/19 07:02 AM |
| 2 | Plenty Of Fish... after 15+ years, I closed my accountI wonder what would have made them decide to start requesting cell phone numbers. As for financial success and attracting women, my theory is that it's not enough to have financial success, you also have to spend a lot of money very visibly. Of course, this does not contribute to gaining or keeping wealth. I rarely spend much money, except on travel, these days. One woman found out about my travels and became interested in me. This is the type of woman whom I likely would have been invisible to,… | /r/MGTOW | 18/11/19 06:44 AM |
| 5 | Girl across the barSounds like it's an open relationship. This is some "signs of the end of civilization stuff," right there. That she would say it so openly makes me think that the guy is already aware of the other guy. No guy should agree to be the financial support in the relationship, while the woman can date whatever guy she wants. What is she providing him in return? There is no serious relationship; she is dating multiple guys. That the guy would (apparently) even be okay with this (for any amount of time) … | /r/MGTOW | 17/11/19 06:27 PM |
| 2 | Woke(Charlie's) Angels bombs hard at the US & China box officeMy guess about what DWShimoda is talking about is this (he can correct me if my guess is wrong): We have very low interest rates right now. Some countries are even toying with negative interest rates, which don't even make much traditional economic sense. This is sometimes referred to as "cheap money," as money can be borrowed quite cheaply. Cheap money means lots of money can enter the economy. A greater supply of money means more things can be bought, one of which being stocks. In general, for… | /r/MGTOW | 17/11/19 07:08 AM |
| 5 | I'm never going to be awakened at 2 AM for a fight again.My "ex" started doing a bunch of the drama when my relationship with her started really going downhill. That stuff is the biggest waste of time -- nobody should have time to do that stuff. That relationship is a big part of why I went MGTOW later. I thought that I had finally found the right partner for me, after years of trying. By the time the relationship was almost over with, I was finding myself looking forward to being single, and thinking of what I would do as a single guy again, with all… | /r/MGTOW | 16/11/19 04:12 PM |
| 2 | According to her, MGTOW is "troubling relevant". Early signs of desperation?I just read what is in the original post -- I don't know if that was the whole article or not. First of all, do you think her opinion comes across as just a bit one-sided? (ha ha). You know, a nice thing about traditional progressives was that they used to care about understanding other people. For example, they wanted to understand what causes crime, so they could try to prevent it. That open-mindedness appears to be all gone now, and that's one reason that I'm no longer a progressive. The poin… | /r/MGTOW | 16/11/19 07:38 AM |
| 10 | My response to something i heard about MGTOWThere are so many things inaccurate about a statement like “MGTOW is like poor people boycotting Ferrari’s”: The word "Ferrari" here basically reflects an assumption that a MGTOW guy would have only been happy with a very small percentage of the women. But that doesn't appear to be true at all. From what I've seen, guys are really open-minded about whom they will date. So, it's not like they want to date a supermodel or nothing. The word "poor people" here basically reflects an assumption that M… | /r/MGTOW | 16/11/19 06:17 AM |
| 19 | Why do people care so much about me being single?Well, here is what I think is going on: Number one, although we sometimes see posts on this group about signs that dating is changing and/or that MGTOW is increasing, I don't think you could call it a mainstream philosophy, in the sense that it's probably not something that most people have heard of yet, and you aren't regularly seeing everyday people who are obviously MGTOW. Number two, I think MGTOW is going to seem even more foreign to the types of people who are still into romantic relations… | /r/MGTOW | 16/11/19 05:20 AM |
| 2 | Woman trying to confuse younger men and trying to argument against AWALTThey don't present very good arguments against MGTOW. As I think someone else in the comments referenced, there are billions of people on the planet. The birth rates could drop by quite a bit, and I think there would still be lots of people for a long time. As for "not all women are the same," I get along with lots of women. That's not the issue, in my opinion. It's the dating system as a whole. I feel like it's broken. I spent enough time in it to reach the conclusion that I was wasting my time… | /r/MGTOW | 16/11/19 04:25 AM |
| 13 | Some feminists are now calling themselves 'Self-Partnered', rather than Single. Laugh at the lunacy, and Go Your Own Way.I don't think it's failure to be single. In fact, I think that's what the issue is here: they think that they have to come up with a new word for single because they don't understand that there isn't anything wrong with being single to begin with. If it's the best option for a person, then that person should be single. Calling it something else doesn't change what it is. The answer is to accept being single, not change the word for it. It seems like such a waste of time and effort for people to … | /r/MGTOW | 14/11/19 02:04 PM |
| 4 | Lol female forum starts noticing the behavior changes in men and start discussing possibilities. One of them brings up mgtow/red pill and they immediately shut it down with shamingIt's quite something how the redpill description in the original post is simply dismissed with an insult. In addition to that, here's the problem with the "real man" comment. If a guy actually tries to act the way that society tells him that he is supposed to act in dating, it doesn't seem to make much difference in the guy's ability to attract women. It seems that a lot of the women, especially the most attractive ones, want Chads or millionaires. How can they expect guys to make special effort… | /r/MGTOW | 14/11/19 06:52 AM |
| 6 | Got Stood Up TonightAfter my last romantic relationship ended, I was a single guy living in a big city. You know what I used to like to do? In the big city, I could get all kinds of food delivered up until like 3 AM or 4 AM on Friday and Saturday nights. I would get going playing my favorite video game at the time online for hours, late into the night. At some point, I would have a one-person FEAST, anything I wanted: pizza, soda, wings, ice cream, french fries, fresh burritos, whatever. These were independent rest… | /r/MGTOW | 13/11/19 07:45 AM |
| 2 | Wife wanted to cuck husband in front of his own sister and mother. Gets super pissed off when the husband cock-blocks her. Fellas, just go your own way. They ALL cheat. All of them.He should also go MGTOW. This sort of experience can't ever happen to a MGTOW. Imagine putting years into trying to build something with a partner, and then something like in the original post can still happen. In my opinion, nobody has time to deal with that. | /r/MGTOW | 13/11/19 06:08 AM |
| 22 | wow, to them its normal...like talking or breathing.I'm against racism, but I've never seen progressives actually convincingly explain why they think that Trump is a racist. From what I can tell, they mostly try to base it on what Trump has said about border control and "The Wall" (not the MGTOW "Wall"). But almost every foreign country that I have ever visited has had border control. There are non-racist reasons for having border control, so simply arguing for stronger border control does not prove racism. When people travel and have to provide … | /r/MGTOW | 12/11/19 08:18 AM |
| 3 | Being a fat guy is the worstI have lost weight both ways, so I can add my opinion here. I think that both the calorie and carb views are correct in their own way. The first time I lost a lot of weight, it was low-fat, medium carb, medium protein, high fiber, low calorie, lots of water. Later on, I gained it all back and more. For years, I tried different variations of low-calorie, and I just couldn't do it. Typically, I'd be going okay for a few days, then I would get ridiculously hungry and then go out and overeat fast fo… | /r/MGTOW | 12/11/19 05:49 AM |
| 3 | Realization considering political movements and motivationsWhat makes you think this? The U.S. government has seemed fine with sending lots of economic activity to "communist" China. | /r/MGTOW | 11/11/19 04:42 PM |
| 3 | It happened PT2He could mail it back with a tracked mailing service -- that way he has something to help show that he indeed returned the key, and does not have to meet with her again. | /r/MGTOW | 11/11/19 03:53 PM |
| 2 | It happened PT2Original poster, when my ex started putting really clear signs to my face that she was cheating on me, I lost a whole lot of my attraction for her, even though she still looked the same. If your romantic relationship with her were anywhere close to working out, do you think that you would have moved out? Why do you want to stay partly in a relationship that didn't work out, by continuing to visit her? I suppose it is possible to continue to be friends with an "ex," but I think that only makes se… | /r/MGTOW | 11/11/19 03:50 PM |
| 1 | Get Woke, Go Broke: ‘Terminator: Dark Fate’ Bombs At The Box Office😀😀WWE | /r/MGTOW | 11/11/19 02:09 AM |
| 2 | Get Woke, Go Broke: ‘Terminator: Dark Fate’ Bombs At The Box Office😀😀Something is wrong with the entertainment industry, in my opinion. There is only one video game series that I care about playing. I got so much enjoyment out of it, and every new version they usually just added more cool features. It just got better and better, and gave me something else fun to look forward to. Well, about six years ago, they switched publishers, and they decided to rebuild the game from the ground up, with the next generation of systems. They took out a whole bunch of the cool … | /r/MGTOW | 10/11/19 07:10 PM |
| 1 | How to accept being not good enough?Original poster, I think that you are in the right place. First of all, have you ever heard of the 80/20 rule? It's an estimate that, in the dating world, 80% of the women basically chase the top 20% of men. Some people on this group think that it's more like the top 10% of men, or even the top 5%. So if you ever wondered why dating has to be so difficult, now you have A simple explanation. Let me tell you some of my story: When I started trying to date, I thought that, if a guy was just a good … | /r/MGTOW | 10/11/19 10:01 AM |
| 5 | How did you feel once college was over?Assuming that you aren't a retired person who just got a college degree to pass time, you are still just getting started. Your next step is likely to start in the working world and work yourself up into a decent place career-wise, hopefully making enough money to do all the things that you want to do. I'm about halfway through my career. If I told you how many years I've been working, it might seem like a lot of years to you, but there's a weird effect to it. By that, I mean that, it feels like … | /r/MGTOW | 09/11/19 07:01 AM |
| 2 | Other's opinions of you mean nothingYes, I think you meant great-grandparents, not great-grandfathers (which is just the males). Great-grandmothers would be just the females. Your English is good enough that I didn't even consider that there might be a language issue. :-) | /r/MGTOW | 09/11/19 06:22 AM |
| 3 | Other's opinions of you mean nothingYou have made a very good point about family history. And think about this: The odds are, most of those people lived probably 50 to 70 years. All those years of living, and, 100 years later, their families can't even write a paragraph about their whole life from memory. Quick question: Wouldn't most people only have four great-grandfathers? One more point: This also applies to when people ask a MGTOW if they are going to have kids to carry on the family name. Even if the future generations also … | /r/MGTOW | 09/11/19 06:05 AM |
| 6 | Why are men preoccupied with self-improvement? Is that the only goal there is?If you are going your own way, you don't have to focus on self-improvement if you don't want to. You can simply your life, and live a life of peace, with just the basics. If you want to do a lot of the interesting activities, however, unless you are already wealthy, you'll probably have to spend some effort learning some skills, and build your career. A lot of people here believe in doing this, because you get to have experiences that you would not otherwise have. It also helps one to set aside … | /r/MGTOW | 08/11/19 01:17 PM |
| 2 | Was forced to go mgtow due to being very unattractive but now I'm on track to retirement at 50 years old couldn't have worked out any betterThank you. | /r/MGTOW | 08/11/19 02:54 AM |
| 2 | Was forced to go mgtow due to being very unattractive but now I'm on track to retirement at 50 years old couldn't have worked out any betterWhat would you say would be the perfect set of languages (or other things) to be skilled at, as a programmer? Also, how do you decide what is the best language to use for a particular type of application? Is there a language that is best for video games, for example, because it is the easiest to adapt to different types of operating systems, and the code would be least likely to ever become obsolete or need updating? | /r/MGTOW | 07/11/19 04:56 PM |
| 10 | They are trying to shame MGTOW by editing Wikipedia and Urban Dictionary. They are trying to shame MGTOW by a false comparison to other male groups. They think that shaming tactics, will get us back into the plantation. They wont. We won't yield. Non Serviam.I just saw a Wikipedia article the other day, and it was so one-sided, it was horrible. It was like a textbook example of how it appears that Wikipedia is being possibly ruined by people looking to benefit themselves (or their "side"). You could even look at the page where they talk about edits to the article, and see why it was turning out that way. People were totally calling out the one-sidedness in the article, and you could see how other people were proudly misapplying Wikipedia's rules to … | /r/MGTOW | 07/11/19 03:58 PM |
| 8 | Is it just me or does Seth Meyers sound like a complete b****?I used to think that he was okay on "Saturday Night Live." Then, in 2016, I started to notice how one-sided so many of these late-night talk/comedy shows are politically. It's like they think every viewer is a corporate Democrat, or maybe they only care about having corporate Democrats as viewers, which doesn't seems smart to me, but whatever. Once I started noticing that, it's very difficult to ignore, and most of those types of shows are unwatchable to me now. They seem to ignore anything that… | /r/MGTOW | 07/11/19 07:37 AM |
| 1 | Why have modern SJW’s failed to leave a mark in culture like the SJW hippies in the 70’s?Look at it this way: Let's say that you are going to make a movie. You have a vision in your mind of something that would be really cool, and different from what people have seen before. You're going to have all of these complex layers of ideas, and the characters are all going to have different combinations of good and bad in them. Your goal is to make a great movie. Even though some of your ideas are new and untested, you have faith that everything will turn out well enough because you have co… | /r/MGTOW | 07/11/19 07:16 AM |
| 2 | Why have modern SJW’s failed to leave a mark in culture like the SJW hippies in the 70’s?I think that they have had an effect on culture. In fact, that is regularly talked about on this group. Such as the effect on movies, for example. Now, I don't think that everyone views the original hippies the same way, but at least you can look back on that time, and there did at least seem to be a strong pro-freedom side to it. They also seemed to be more open-minded than today's progressives. The problem with today's progressives is how they don't seem to be able to entertain differences of … | /r/MGTOW | 07/11/19 06:49 AM |
| 3 | Married Man “not sure he has what it takes” to be a CuckWhy does the guy think that there's anything progressive or positive about having one of these "open marriages." It's basically the same as not being married, except it's probably much worse because I'm guessing that he'd probably still be expected to contribute financially to the marriage, as well as continue with certain responsibilities to the marriage. He needs someone to wake him up to the reality of it, to where he doesn't seem like he feels like he should have to be make excuses for not b… | /r/MGTOW | 07/11/19 06:19 AM |
| 2 | James Bond is Now Fully WokeI think that society is changing. When I was younger, people liked some movies, and didn't like other movies. They'd look forward to some movies and not others. But it's different now. Now people go out of their way to NOT see certain movies, or to encourage other people to not see certain movies. Some people feel like Hollywood often either has very little idea what it is doing, or is actively ruining things for the movie audiences. Some people associate the whole mainstream entertainment indus… | /r/MGTOW | 07/11/19 05:47 AM |
| 3 | One thing I’ve learned over the yearsI don't know how popular my opinion is going to be on this, but, in my opinion, it's not necessarily a good idea to always respond to every time that you feel like someone has disrespected you. I would say that it's important to be conservative about doing that, and to only respond (in a smart way) when it makes sense. Most of the time, I've found that it's just not important to respond. One time, I was working a job, and I asked someone a question at my work site. Apparently, they took my quest… | /r/MGTOW | 06/11/19 03:17 AM |
| 7 | Just wow, really?I just read the part of the article that was quoted on this MGTOW group, and I'm not sure where to begin. There's too much to comment on, so I won't try to address the whole thing. I'll say this: Reading this is like seeing a sign of the end of the civilization. It's that sad. She seems so upset about the divorce -- so maybe she shouldn't have gone in that direction???? I mean, if it's so horrible, why do that? I didn't notice anything in what I read that sounded like her ex-husband did anything… | /r/MGTOW | 05/11/19 07:51 AM |
| 10 | People say MGTOW brainwashed. Funny thing is that we were brainwashed young to believe that our purpose as men was to find a woman and live happily.If someone learns that 1 + 1 = 2, is that brainwashing? I thought that brainwashing typically meant making people believe things that weren't at least somewhat accurate. Now, I'm not saying that every single thing ever said connected with MGTOW has always been 100% accurate. However, a lot of MGTOW-related material explained my dating and romantic relationship experiences better than mainstream dating advice. Compare with mainstream dating advice: I had been led to believe that if a guy works ha… | /r/MGTOW | 05/11/19 06:26 AM |
| 4 | Why has nobody tackled and refuted the tenets of MTGOW yet?thesingleworst wrote: I feel like a big issue is this sub doesn’t really allow for it. Any time anyone tries to disagree or has the slightest hint of disagreement it gets downvoted to oblivion and mocked without any real form of an argument. I don't think this is all that accurate. Keep in mind that this is a group for people who are already MGTOW, or are interested in going MGTOW. It's not really meant as a place for outsiders to try to convince people NOT to be MGTOW. Sometimes we might get a … | /r/MGTOW | 03/11/19 08:10 PM |
| 4 | I cant stand TV Shows or Movies anymoreI don't mind most storylines if they are entertaining. However, what really turned me off of Hollywood was their one-sided politicization over the last four years. Think of some of the awards shows during that time, and so on. They seemed completely out of touch with a good share of the American public -- they didn't seem to have a clue about why people voted certain ways. Then they talked down to the people, when their job is to entertain the people. I started wondering if they were no longer e… | /r/MGTOW | 03/11/19 10:19 AM |
| 2 | Every once in a while you need to cancel ALL your dates. Even if you had to flirt with a girl for 2 months to get it. Just cancel. So much better for your mental health - completely let go every now and then.I'm middle-aged, and it's very difficult to get excited about dating at this point in my life. I compare it to dating in my twenties. Back then, I'd go on online dating, and find lots of women who were my age (in their twenties back then), and many of them would just seem so perfect to me. Of course, they'd rarely ever write back, and nothing would ever work out right even when they did. But I'd still have some fun with the thought that they MIGHT write back, and this MIGHT be the right woman fo… | /r/MGTOW | 03/11/19 07:08 AM |
| 5 | Red pill content opened my eyesblueberrylegend wrote: I mean I understand the whole valuing yourself, but maybe if you're getting rejected everytime, then just maybe it could be because of something you're doing.. Not everyone is out to ... your life lol I don't see anything in the original post about the original poster getting rejected every time. This comes across like you are projecting your assumptions about this group onto the original poster's post. By the way, if such assumptions include that the guys here have never … | /r/MGTOW | 02/11/19 05:27 PM |
| 5 | Finally made this purchase, I can't wait to dive in to what some of you have said may be one of the greatest books ever writtenI've read a good share of that book, and found it very very valuable, even from a MGTOW view. Let me explain: You don't have to be trying to date to get something out of that book. When I read it, I was disappointed with my dating experiences and had been slowly fading away from being interested in dating, for years. To me, the biggest value of this book, was that it actually provided some attempt at explaining the dating and romantic relationship worlds, in a way that reflected the reality that… | /r/MGTOW | 30/10/19 04:45 AM |
| 1 | Shania Twain, the lowest form of music and a big F*ck you to men everywhere.I wonder if she doesn't have the right people on her side in the music industry. Normally, country music is pretty good about being good to their top stars as they get older. | /r/MGTOW | 29/10/19 05:11 AM |
| 2 | Guy [25M] doesn't realize his Girlfriend [22F] is using him -- demands POOLING income when he makes 7 times what she does...One of my ex's refused to work, when she lived with me. She was pushing for a joint bank account. Even before MGTOW, I knew enough to refuse and keep that separate. I think that it was after that that I heard from someone that she had really, really bad credit. On top of that, as time went by, there were more and more signs that she was cheating on me, or at least looking to cheat on me. If you are an honest, smart, organized person, and you associate yourself mainly with other honest, smart, or… | /r/MGTOW | 27/10/19 04:23 PM |
| 1 | Guy [25M] doesn't realize his Girlfriend [22F] is using him -- demands POOLING income when he makes 7 times what she does...I don't think he is dumb. By the time you get to the end of his post, he is questioning the relationship. So, he has a clue, or at least he is on to something. I'm guessing that a lot of guys here have been in similar situations. The problem is that the mainstream does not give a lot of attention to situations like this. The general thought is that people look for a long-term partner, possibly to marry. Divorce or any other problems along the way are just treated basically as "That's life," or "… | /r/MGTOW | 27/10/19 04:09 PM |
| 5 | Why men should never go on dating apps.I tried online dating a lot, years and years ago. From my experiences, it makes total sense that a lot of the women are not very serious about the guys they meet on there. My most common experience was not getting any response to my emails. Much less common, but still probably second most common experience was communication that lasted just a few days. Very rarely, I would get a chat partner for quite a while, but that would often be all that would result from communicating with those particular… | /r/MGTOW | 26/10/19 03:39 AM |
| 7 | Random Observation from Hipster City VisitThe blocking of people on the sidewalk seems to be spreading. I wasn't aware of it until a little while ago. I was at a public festival, walking along, minding my own business. This woman -- she and her friend with her looked to be in their twenties -- this woman starts walking directly toward me. No matter what I did, she just seemed to keep walking toward me. So, I actually stopped in place, so she could just walk around me. What does she do? She continues to walk right toward me until she is … | /r/MGTOW | 25/10/19 01:45 PM |
| 8 | Random Observation from Hipster City VisitI'm not saying that every comment posted on this MGTOW group is always polite, nice, or even correct. I don't agree with every comment on this MGTOW group. However, there are very real points being made on this group about the direction of society, especially as it relates to men. Many of those points should be heard and considered, even if they aren't sugar-coated to sound as polite as possible. It's amazing how people want to force something other than a wide range of freedom of thought, and f… | /r/MGTOW | 25/10/19 07:02 AM |
| 2 | Am I the only one who just want to watch and laugh about the society burning down to ashes?To me, socialism has two meanings: A. A strong government that serves as a balance against big corporations, and keeps the wealthy from taking over everything. The government serves as a sort of non-profit, independent "referee of the market" that at least attempts to ensure that the interests of the general public are served. B. A government that people put in power, thinking that it would be (A) above, except, instead, what they created was like having the biggest most powerful corporation eve… | /r/MGTOW | 24/10/19 04:50 AM |
| 3 | So apparently im a bum...I used to live in a big city. My car starting needing more and more repairs, so I got rid of it. I didn't need a car to get around in the big city. I was walking distance to the grocery store. Public transportation was fine for everything else. So, I didn't get another car for years and years. It just seemed like an unnecessary expense, plus gasoline, repairs, parking, oil changes, and so on. I felt like society pressures people to own a car, whether they need one or not, so all those industries… | /r/MGTOW | 24/10/19 04:31 AM |
| 7 | Number of reasons I don't date.I tried online dating a lot, years ago, and I totally thought that one of the keys to winning attraction from a woman was to entertain her, which I tried via Internet chat. I must have been reasonably good at making entertaining conversation (I tried really hard back then), because some of the women would chat with me for an hour or more at a time and/or be my chat pal for weeks or months. Yet, they would almost always quit communicating at some point, and it would almost never turn into a full … | /r/MGTOW | 18/10/19 06:29 AM |
| 3 | Man Asks Woman to Pay Half of Date BillI didn't watch the show, so I'm just going from the description in the original post. It sounds like the point of the show is to set up situations that they think could get people's reactions, and then film them. It is interesting that the makers of the show seemingly thought that the man asking the woman to pay for half the date (after being told they'll just be friends) was something that they thought would work other people up enough for them to put on the show. However -- even in a romantic … | /r/MGTOW | 18/10/19 04:14 AM |
| 21 | Silence is better than women. Think about it for a moment: Silence, is fucking better than women. A quiet room, a nice glass of whiskey, and a dog beside you. No nagging, no children, no worries. It's raining outside. Tomorrow you are flying to Tokyo, to explore the city. You are free.I'm a MGTOW who has been all over the world. I have had women hint to me that they wanted me to ask them for a date. These are women whom I probably would have been very happy to date when I was in my twenties. What screwed up and ruined the dating system for me was how difficult it was to date anyone whom I wanted to date, particularly when I was in my twenties. Mostly I got ignored, or they would lose interest so easily. From reading this group, I realize that the loss of interest could have e… | /r/MGTOW | 15/10/19 05:11 AM |
| 35 | Lifelong crush who always rejected me for a thug, now wants to start a relationship with me. I need advice on what to doOf course, it's your decision what you do, but I would either ignore the message or tell her that you are taking a break from dating or something like that (if you want to be nice). I'll give you two examples from my dating experiences: One was an online chat friend of mine for about six months. I chatted and emailed with her almost every day, and I truly thought that there was a good chance that I would someday meet her in person, and that maybe her and I would date. Then one day, she just drop… | /r/MGTOW | 09/10/19 04:32 AM |
| 1 | Investment banker puts woman seeking advice on how to find wealthy men making at least $500K in her place 👀The first comment by the woman is an awful thing to read. It seems like it reduces just about everything to money and looks. She needs to time travel to the 1700's and live an average person's life back then. Then, maybe she could appreciate $50,000 per year income. How about the part where she doesn't understand how a rich guy could marry a "plain" woman? She doesn't seem to have any understanding about what is really important, or even what life is all about. This is the type of stuff that tak… | /r/MGTOW | 30/09/19 10:16 AM |
| 6 | Dual Mating Strategy: Why you should NEVER marry (straight from the whores mouth)I get that she is probably with the husband for family, money, or something else, but it's interesting how that is left out of the original post. It leaves a huge gap in the logic, as she never really explains why she would be married to the husband at all. | /r/MGTOW | 30/09/19 09:26 AM |
| 14 | Dual Mating Strategy: Why you should NEVER marry (straight from the whores mouth)Here's the part of the original post that I don't understand. She says that they can't marry the guys that they are really attracted to -- but they'll cheat on their husband with those guys. And she says that they don't like being with the guys that they are married to. So -- why not just stay unmarried and keep dating the Chads they like, even though they can't marry them? What does it add to also get married to a guy whom they are unhappy with, and that they are also being dishonest to. Just s… | /r/MGTOW | 30/09/19 08:23 AM |
| 3 | When people ask my "Why you're single?" I tell them "Not interested in dating" they reply "You probably can't get any"I don't spend time around people who would say anything to me like in the original post. If someone wants to rip on me for no good reason, they'll have to settle for doing so with me not hearing them. Even if they could get me to hear them, one lesson that I've learned (from having to deal with a lot of bad people over the years) is to ignore nonsense opinions from people who are not my friends. Because why would you give people like that any control over your life by trying to earn their approv… | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/19 05:00 PM |
| 1 | Life as a guy in his early 20sIt would have helped if there had been MGTOW-related material easily findable back when I was in my twenties. I didn't know anyone who understood this information, and dating was like some huge mystery to me back then. Basically, I was doing the activities that I thought that I was supposed to be doing in life, and it just seemed impossible to date anyone whom I would have been interested in dating. Meanwhile, I'd see other guys easily dating, or even being "chased" by women. Sometimes, these gu… | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/19 07:41 AM |
| 3 | We Are Growing.The reason that stuff like the name-calling doesn't work is because none of it actually addresses why guys turn MGTOW. A lot of us started out as non-MGTOW, if not almost all of us. Often, disappointment and bad romantic experiences send guys here. When someone posts here trying to make us not MGTOW, including when they call us names and so on, it doesn't do anything to erase or fix the bad experiences that I had with dating and romantic relationships. As if insults and name-calling have more we… | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/19 01:47 AM |
| 13 | I'm just tiredI'm not going to address everything that Original Poster said, but here's some advice: If you are sick of mainstream news, and popular culture, turn off the TV and movies and radio. I only watch a couple of shows anymore, and they sure aren't mainstream media news. I think you'll be surprised by how much this helps. I'm sorry to say this, but, if you don't have enough money to retire the way that you want to yet, then it's probably a good idea to keep working. Even with MGTOW, I expect to work a… | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/19 12:28 AM |
| 5 | Life as a guy in his early 20sI'm middle-aged now, but I was once a college student with academic talent, studying for a good degree. I never had a date in college. I had a chance at a bright future, but I was financially poor back then, as well as apparently not what women wanted in the looks department. I got into online dating and tried it for years. Most of the time, I got zero or almost zero response to my emails on there. I had a small number of romantic relationships that either went nowhere or even turned out badly. … | /r/MGTOW | 26/09/19 12:08 PM |
| 2 | Young women today are fuckedI think there was a story on this MGTOW group a while back about women filming guys approaching them at the bar on their phones, with them turning the guys down and shaming them, and then posting those videos online. Honestly, sometimes stuff like that feels like the end of dating and romantic relationships -- at least a sign of the beginning of the end of those things on a large scale. What guy is even going to try to date anymore if he thinks that he has any kind of a good chance at being trea… | /r/MGTOW | 25/09/19 02:39 PM |
| 1 | Has This Happened to Anyone Else?I don't think that such an article is doing any favors for its readers. I didn't know what they were doing, so the point of the "game" was lost on me (at the time anyway). It comes across as bizarre behavior to the uninformed, making the "game-player" look bad. I don't think that an article should be making its readers look that way. In the long-term, if stuff like this becomes common, I see it as just building MGTOW even more. When I'm keeping to myself in public, I don't need people randomly t… | /r/MGTOW | 22/09/19 12:08 PM |
| 4 | Has This Happened to Anyone Else?Are you serious? Have you seen this written down somewhere? If this is a "game," I wasn't clued into it. I don't think that they realize how this makes them come across, especially to a stranger who isn't looking to have anything to do with them. It's like someone who forces everyone to tell him how cool he is, and then everyone talks about how weird that is after he leaves the room. | /r/MGTOW | 22/09/19 01:29 AM |
| 3 | A thank you noteIn my opinion, you can pretty much see how the romantic world works if you just open your eyes. It's not a fair system. Some people have a much easier time with it, and have a lot more fun than other people. Bad romantic relationships and bad divorces are all there to find out about too -- all you have to do is talk to someone who has been through that. Why don't so many people notice those issues so much at first? I think that it's just that people don't want to. Our society is polite in such a… | /r/MGTOW | 20/09/19 06:15 PM |
| 2 | P&G buying thousands of tickets to boost women’s soccer - Get woke go brokeI don't think that this being in the news helps the sport. It makes it look like it's really unpopular and needs financial help to continue. I didn't read the article, but are they giving away the tickets that they are buying? If they just buy the tickets, but those tickets are still empty seats, I don't think they are helping that sport as much as they may think. It hurts the atmosphere of a sporting event for fans to show up and see a half-empty arena. If they are giving tickets away, are most… | /r/MGTOW | 20/09/19 11:44 AM |
| 2 | Ex sleeping with new guy right after our breakupOne of my ex's almost immediately was dating another guy right after my relationship with her ended. I was already pretty sure that she was either cheating, or trying to find someone to cheat with, and, especially looking back now, I took it as confirming that she had been very likely cheating during my relationship with her. | /r/MGTOW | 05/09/19 04:04 AM |
| 1 | They all do the same thing, every single time.(women's behavior and dating sites)I tried online dating for many years. Looking back on my experiences with that, I believe that those places are basically for women and Chad guys to have fun. It's like going uphill for a non-Chad guy. A non-Chad guy will either not get responses to his emails (probably most typically), or if he gets a response and/or even starts talking more to a woman from there, it's more of an "uphill challenge" just to keep the communication going. At least you have groups like this one now, where guys can … | /r/MGTOW | 04/09/19 01:49 AM |
| 5 | I don’t want to be “settled “ with ! I’ve more value than being plan B .I was a financially poor guy back in college. I got almost no attention from women. I could see the guys that were dating attractive women, and I could get some idea of what the women were looking for, by what those guys were like. I had a very small number of romantic relationships after college, but while I was still fairly financially poor. It was a lot of effort (and much wasted time) just to find those relationships, and they were not very strong romantic relationships, nor did they last. W… | /r/MGTOW | 02/09/19 04:51 AM |
| 1 | Life becomes 10x easier when you dont care.I don't think that I was ever "jealous" of people in happy romantic relationships, because, to me, "jealous" means some sort of negative feeling toward the other person that is doing well. I've never really seen the point in having anything against someone else, just because they are experiencing some good things. That being said, I would get sad about my own situation, and, of course, part of the reason that I was sad was because I didn't seem to be able to have the experiences in dating that o… | /r/MGTOW | 30/08/19 07:12 AM |
| 3 | Life becomes 10x easier when you dont care.Actually, not fitting in very well socially caused me to focus a lot on my studies in high school and college -- so, maybe surprisingly, it helped me in that way. People who just naturally fit in socially -- sometimes I don't think they realize just how helpful that is to them. Anyone that has something that makes them stand out, that isn't something that people celebrate like certain physical appearances or athletic ability -- people can't help but notice those things and make fun of them. It c… | /r/MGTOW | 28/08/19 07:07 AM |
| 3 | Life becomes 10x easier when you dont care.When I was a young person, I went through all kinds of bullying from others, and feeling embarrassed. I came from the working class, and it took many years for me to work my way up, well into being an adult. At times, I felt like so many other people my age got to have fun, and I didn't -- I had to study and work hard instead. Life seemed so easy for a lot of the other people; they didn't seem to be working particularly hard and yet also seemed to be able to have the things that they wanted, som… | /r/MGTOW | 28/08/19 06:08 AM |
| 5 | Brand new here. Question for you guys, do you ever think about your exes?Yeah, I still think about my ex's sometimes. But my thoughts have changed over time. For me, a lot depends on whether I wanted out of the particular relationship when it ended, or not; I've experienced both situations. As you probably would expect, I found it much easier to get over a relationship that I wanted out of. Even that relationship, I've sometimes thought about her positively. However, those are just thoughts, and I would never get back together with her, because there were just too ma… | /r/MGTOW | 25/08/19 08:13 AM |
| 2 | Should have payed attention to the warning signs...Hindsight is 20/20, seriously, would you have believed anything the red pill and mgtow teaches in your 20s? Obviously, it helps to have had some dating/romantic-relationship experiences, but I think that it will make a difference that guys now have access to this type of information. For example, the first few months that a guy tries online dating, and he gets basically no results from it, he can now say, "Oh, that's the 80/20 rule." | /r/MGTOW | 24/08/19 03:59 AM |
| 6 | I got turned down because of my phone...I thought it was bad when I got rejected just because I didn't have a car (at the time). The stuff in the original post has got to be some sign of a sick society. I wonder if the woman in that post is going to try to marry the latest model of phone someday, if that is what she is really interested in. I think that it's very telling that she is trying to exclude "cheap" guys. What does a non-cheap guy do? He spends lots of money, not because it makes sense, but rather just for the sake of spendin… | /r/MGTOW | 22/08/19 02:26 PM |
| 2 | To much older MGTOWs, how is growing older as MGTOW going...I'm middle-aged, and it's pretty good being MGTOW as I get older. Remember, you can't compare it to the idea of having an attractive and caring wife who would never divorce. I spent enough time dating to know that I couldn't find that situation for me. Maybe someone else can, but I couldn't seem to find what I wanted in a romantic relationship. From this group, I discovered that many other guys end up disappointed with dating and romantic relationships too, so that seems to be common. Every year… | /r/MGTOW | 21/08/19 04:31 PM |
| 3 | Everything makes sense after reading "The Rational Male"I got into the idea of a long-distance relationship with online dating because I thought that I was greatly increasing the number of women that I could possibly date, thus increasing my chances of finding what I was looking for. What I was never told was that there are so many reasons not to do that. For one thing, you have no idea if the other person is taking the online long-distance stuff seriously. It could be almost like an entertaining video game to them, that they chat with each day, but … | /r/MGTOW | 20/08/19 03:11 PM |
| 25 | Everything makes sense after reading "The Rational Male"Some of the parts from "The Rational Male" that I found to be most memorable (well, based on my memory -- I don't think that they were from anything else I read, unless maybe from one of the later Rational Male volumes): I think there's a part about long-distance or online romantic relationships where it says that this is not an actual romantic relationship. This is a simple statement, but it made me realize what a waste of time it is to go long-distance with online dating when you really have n… | /r/MGTOW | 20/08/19 07:28 AM |
| 4 | Your favorite place you've traveled to in the world?It depends what you like. I've been to a lot of places, and I can't really pick a favorite because they are very much different. If you like art museums and famous man-made stuff, I'd say to go to Europe. If you like a combination of beautiful weather, lots of big open spaces, unusual animals, some good birds, a good tourism industry, and a lot of choices of different places to visit, I'd say to go to Australia. If you want absolutely beautiful weather, in a tropical island atmosphere, I'd say t… | /r/MGTOW | 20/08/19 06:09 AM |
| 1 | What happened to online dating?Because I'm older, I got to live through the evolution of online dating, from pretty close to when it first got popular. I think that it has gone steadily downhill over the time period since then. It's always been much easier for women and Chads to enjoy it, I think. As a non-Chad guy, around 2000-ish, with a lot of work sending out emails and chatting, you could make some online chat friends and perhaps date an attractive woman (rarely). Think about that though -- that's not really a good use o… | /r/MGTOW | 20/08/19 05:48 AM |
| 3 | About to dump herOne of my ex's refused to work. Guess what? After a while, I started noticing all kinds of signs that she was cheating on me. | /r/MGTOW | 19/08/19 08:50 AM |
| 1 | MGTOW I got questions 🤔🤔To answer the original post's questions: The best way to know the answer to the first question is for a woman to try MGTOW ideas and see if they are helpful to her. My guess is that some women would find the ideas useful but maybe not all (which is also how I think it is for men). I think that most people are able to contribute to society, in some way. What someone looks like does not actually matter a whole lot with respect to one's skills in being able to do most useful things (outside of some… | /r/MGTOW | 19/08/19 05:39 AM |
| 7 | [LOL: the Wall is Real] Should I [28F] feel concerned that most of the men I date seem eager and almost determined to have sex, but not to necessarily date me?I think that the men and women in the dating world evolve in behavior, in a way, based on their experiences in the dating world. For example, when I tried to date, I tried to be one of the nicest guys in the world. I thought that that was what women wanted, and that that would make women more likely to date me. Plus, I wasn't acting -- I also thought that it was just plain a good thing to be a nice guy. I really didn't have much success with dating for how much I tried -- I just had a small numb… | /r/MGTOW | 19/08/19 04:06 AM |
| 3 | So I had to walk away from a woman who obviously just wanted a successful manThe original post reminds me of when I used to try online dating. Of course, my response rate to my online dating emails were terrible, since I am not a Chad. However, occasionally, I would write to a woman on there who had never been to college and appeared to be working a low-paying job. Sometimes I wondered if I would have a better response rate from such women, as I thought that maybe the work that I had put into my career would impress them more, that they would appreciate it more. The answ… | /r/MGTOW | 19/08/19 03:32 AM |
| 3 | I've had enough, fuck the dating gameThe main book that I read was "The Rational Male (Volume 1)" by Rollo Tomassi. This book seems to draw mixed opinions from this group. I don't think that it was exactly MGTOW -- that's why I said MGTOW-related. For people who are already really familiar with the subjects discussed on this MGTOW group, maybe they don't think that it's so much better than some other books. But keep in mind that I had mainly read mainstream dating advice in the past, and "The Rational Male" was so far above the mai… | /r/MGTOW | 17/08/19 03:24 AM |
| 20 | I've had enough, fuck the dating gameHere's how I quit wanting to be involved in the dating game: The main thing was that I had a serious romantic relationship that turned out poorly, to the point that I found myself thinking how great it would be to be single again. This really made a huge impression on me when I found myself thinking that, as a guy who tried for years to find that serious romantic relationship. Now, obviously, I don't recommend that you get into a bad relationship, so probably the best thing to do is keep reading… | /r/MGTOW | 16/08/19 01:04 PM |
| 3 | A lady (complete stranger) made a comment about my weight at the gym.Here's a story for you: I was in a foreign country and didn't speak the language. Because of the language issue, I wound up with double the amount of food that I had ordered and got charged for the extra food as well. I don't think that I had eaten anything that day, so I decided to just eat the food, because I was so hungry. It was not healthy food. It was in a public place, and I'm a heavier guy. Not super heavy, but I am overweight. This lady walks by, probably in her thirties or forties, ver… | /r/MGTOW | 15/08/19 03:42 PM |
| 3 | The only reason why any guy actually gets married today is for one reason only: because they are embarassed about being singleThis doesn't sound like you are MGTOW, or that you are interested in becoming one. So why would you want to be on a MGTOW group? | /r/MGTOW | 15/08/19 10:40 AM |
| 7 | So my ex decides to send me this textI'm just a random guy to you online, and this is just my opinion and story, but here it is: She is your "ex" for a reason. If your past relationship with her were remotely going to work, then you probably would have always stayed together. I had an ex try to contact me after about a year. I ended up hearing from another source that she literally was going through some pretty bad personal problems at pretty much that same exact time. My guess is that whatever guy she was with had just dumped her,… | /r/MGTOW | 11/08/19 03:52 PM |
| 4 | So I’m just visiting and I would like to know your beef with women.There is no "group beef" with women. People with opinions like that on this group are just speaking for themselves, not the rest of us. You'll probably find a fair amount of people complaining about their past relationships with women, but that's probably because that's a common way of getting pushed toward going MGTOW: having bad past romantic experiences. If you want to know why any of them have specific opinions, you'd have to ask those specific people. But, as you know, both men and women co… | /r/MGTOW | 09/08/19 04:16 AM |
| 1 | My ex reached out and it has taken a few days for me to process it all.After reading what you've said, I think there's a hint of a bit of regret that you didn't get together with her but now that you're at peace I guess that's irrelevant. Perhaps you didn't date her long enough to see a "not so kind" side of her. I think this is a pretty good summary of the situation. Even with MGTOW, I can't just ignore that I went years wanting to find my romantic partner, and that that particular woman had quite a bit of an effect on me. MGTOW did help me find peace and acceptan… | /r/MGTOW | 08/08/19 05:56 AM |
| 4 | The Simpson's: Once A Great Show, Now Overtaken By Vegan Feminists and PC BullshitI think that progressivism has changed quite a bit, but some of the people haven't figured it out yet. For example, a lot of progressives used to be against censorship but now you see them for it a lot. As for the Simpsons specifically, I think that it's fair to compare it to Saturday Night Live. In the 1970's and 1980's, a lot of the comedies were the traditional TV comedy stuff, often about some household. The type of humor was pretty much the same across a lot of those shows. With Saturday Ni… | /r/MGTOW | 08/08/19 05:37 AM |
| 1 | My ex reached out and it has taken a few days for me to process it all.Hopefully he will have long-since paid some hookers to at least treat him like a human being. I don't believe in people using hookers, so that wouldn't happen. Honestly, my disappointment from her not wanting to date me was really my fault and not hers. It wasn't like I got married to her, and that then she wanted a divorce for no good reason. Instead, I dated her for about 4 months, and she broke up with me because she lost interest in me. From reading MGTOW-related material, it wouldn't surpri… | /r/MGTOW | 08/08/19 03:56 AM |
| 1 | My ex reached out and it has taken a few days for me to process it all.and what if she wants to date you again one day, what would you do? The easy answer to this is that that would probably never happen. She had lots of chances to start chatting regularly again, and she never took that opportunity. So, she probably really has no interest in that. But your question was assuming she wanted to date again, so your question assumes that such an unlikely thing would happen. To be honest with you, it would get my attention for a short period of time. Of all my ex's, she … | /r/MGTOW | 08/08/19 03:22 AM |
| 9 | My ex reached out and it has taken a few days for me to process it all.One of my ex's never treated me particularly badly (at least not directly). But she was the one that broke up with me, years ago. Before I started reading MGTOW-related material, every few years, I would occasionally have the opportunity to talk to her again. I would tell her about how my life had progressed since the last time I had spoken to her, typically some cool things that had happened to me. Deep down inside, I'm pretty sure that I was hoping that she'd be really impressed and that, one … | /r/MGTOW | 07/08/19 05:03 AM |
| 11 | Group editing many Wikipedia articles to fit narratives. More detail in first commentI've noticed that Wikipedia currently isn't very good for researching anything that has a political side (in my opinion). It started out as a good idea (more democratic access to information), but now that so many people use it for information, people just can't help but try to use it to try to control what the public thinks. Wikipedia should be about presenting all political views as accurately as possible, but I've noticed some rather questionable articles on there that are hardly honestly wri… | /r/MGTOW | 06/08/19 01:39 PM |
| 2 | How to never reveal you're MGTOWWhy not just say that one enjoys the "single" life? I mean, what do they want someone to do, get married when they don't want to? I actually probably would have gotten married, if the romantic relationship world was anything remotely like people are told it is. I sure gave dating a chance. But when you have lots to offer, but it all doesn't matter because one is not a Chad, then it's kind of difficult to justify continued participation in dating. Then you go to a group like this one, and discove… | /r/MGTOW | 06/08/19 04:47 AM |
| 2 | Just another long break-up story. Just more female recklessness.I had an "ex" who apparently didn't want to work, or even get trained for a job, yet also would not admit that. She just moved in, while saying that she was planning to do those things. However, she would never actually carry out those plans. She tried doing the housework, but that's not really what I needed her to contribute. I was already used to doing my own laundry and so on. The expenses were falling upon me to pay, and very quickly it had a negative effect on my finances. When it became cl… | /r/MGTOW | 05/08/19 08:40 AM |
| 1 | I missed the '90s country music I grew up on. So I revisited it.Have you ever heard "Wrong" by Waylon Jennings? | /r/MGTOW | 05/08/19 07:06 AM |
| 1 | Read this in its entirety. This is typical. The OP can’t see it but the signs are there. She’s preparing for her departure. Most likely has someone lined up. The slow burn.In my opinion, one of the best things about MGTOW is that you no longer have to deal with problems that would not exist except for the fact that one is in a romantic relationship -- ESPECIALLY the problems that start to show up when the relationship begins to fall apart. I don't have to worry about why my ex broke up with me for no good reason. I don't have to wonder why she has lost interest. I don't have to worry about the possibility of anyone cheating on me -- or the possibility that they ar… | /r/MGTOW | 05/08/19 12:18 AM |
| 2 | My story, or how going MGTOW changed the priorities in my life.After years of really trying at dating, the day arrived where I concluded that it just didn't seem to be anything like how society tells us it is. I mean, obviously, I didn't expect that every woman was necessarily looking for a guy like me. But I had a lot of good things about me, the things that we are told are supposed to really matter a lot in dating. I could accept if even only 0.1% of the women who I wanted to date, would have liked to date me. After all, I only needed to find one to marry… | /r/MGTOW | 15/07/19 04:11 AM |
| 1 | Are people creeped out by you being MGTOW?Okay, look at it this way: There are a certain percentage of people out there who will find reasons to dislike other people, when those other people have given them no good reason to have that level of dislike for them. Being MGTOW basically is just deciding that the single life is best for you, which is a decision that you completely deserve to make for yourself. Whether or not to get married is a key life decision. It has a huge effect on the direction of your life. Are you going to let people… | /r/MGTOW | 15/07/19 03:24 AM |
| 2 | I'm HomeWhat got me was the whole Chad/non-Chad system, although I didn't fully understand it back when I dated. I'd put all this effort into dating, and got ridiculously low amount of interest in return. At the same time, I knew that other guys were easily dating whom they wanted to date, and I highly doubted that they were trying as much as I was trying. I think that people know that dating doesn't treat its participants equally, but I think that they don't want to admit just HOW unfair it is. Because… | /r/MGTOW | 09/07/19 02:20 AM |
| 2 | Behar on Yang UBI plan.If by UBI, they mean universal basic income, the point of that idea is if the day ever arrives where most goods and services can be produced for everyone with very little human labor. The idea is that you then have all the wealth that society needs, but people can't afford to buy what they need because there aren't enough jobs; so you'd have basic income as a way to circulate money back to consumers so that the economy still works. But that's not what the situation is in the U.S. today. The U.S.… | /r/MGTOW | 09/07/19 01:58 AM |
| 5 | I learned something new about people who post in mgtow.About the only value that I have for reddit anymore, outside of a small number of groups like this MGTOW group, is if I have a technology question, like something about electronic products. I might have a question like that about every three years. If this MGTOW group ever gets shut down, it's possible that I might never visit reddit again. | /r/MGTOW | 27/06/19 10:16 PM |
| 2 | Anyone Watching This Democratic Debate?I couldn't help but notice that it looks like someone went through this discussion this evening and downvoted a whole bunch of the comments that didn't mindlessly agree with the Democratic Party debate. They didn't try to explain why they disagreed with the comments, or try to show people that they were incorrect -- they just apparently ran through and tapped a bunch of downvote buttons. Wow, that's sure gonna win hearts and change minds, LOL! I wonder if this is what political campaigns have co… | /r/MGTOW | 27/06/19 06:51 AM |
| 6 | Anyone Watching This Democratic Debate?If they are really serious about that, then why do we hear about all these coastal super-wealthy people who so strongly support the Democratic Party? Here's something that would be really funny, if it ever happened in one of these new Democratic debates: One of the candidates on stage: "You know, I was thinking the other day: Democrats are always talking about taking money from the rich and giving it to everyone else. But, you know, a lot of the coastal rich seem to really support our party. So,… | /r/MGTOW | 27/06/19 05:46 AM |
| 4 | Anyone Watching This Democratic Debate?Was anyone allowed in the debate that was believable as a non-mainstream politician who was serious about actually creating real change for the better? Obviously we expect that they all talk about what a great plan they have. But was anyone there believable as someone who would follow a different road from mainstream politicians in the U.S. for the past 40 years or so? (That is, the decreasing of the demand for labor in the U.S. and thus lowering the market price of labor in the U.S., thereby ma… | /r/MGTOW | 27/06/19 05:20 AM |
| 1 | I didn't go to my class reuinion today (15 years 1st meeting)I have never been to any of my high school reunions, and I don't expect to ever go to one. High school and college were the two roughest and most unhappy times of my life. It really wasn't anyone's fault. I just didn't fit in, for a lot of different reasons. I got made fun of to my face, and I dealt with it by avoiding most social interaction in high school. I imagine that I was probably made fun of, to a horrible level, behind my back. I went to a fairly large high school, so there were lots of… | /r/MGTOW | 23/06/19 04:36 AM |
| 1 | I love you, but I am not in love with youHere's one thing I learned from my time in the dating world: The dating world can be explained very simply. If the woman is attracted to the guy, then she is attracted to the guy. If the woman wants to be in a romantic relationship with the guy, then she wants to be in a romantic relationship with the guy. These things can change from time to time. Looking back on my dating experiences, trying to figure out "why it didn't work out" or what some excuse meant as to why it didn't work out -- I thin… | /r/MGTOW | 21/06/19 07:37 AM |
| 2 | stop wasting money going on datesI met a woman through online dating (back when I did that, years ago). After talking on the phone a month or two, she visited me from another state for the weekend. I planned a whole weekend around nice things to do in the area that I lived at the time, as well as what I knew about the things that she liked. I went to a fair amount of planning, but she didn't want to finish out the schedule by the end of the weekend, and we just stayed at my place. Either she didn't like doing so much, or she di… | /r/MGTOW | 20/06/19 04:28 AM |
| 1 | Why is dating so much work?jonnyb3000 wrote: Why are you only willing to do things that don't require effort? That's not what he was saying -- he was talking about the amount of work compared to the amount of reward in return. There's a difference. | /r/MGTOW | 16/06/19 04:09 AM |
| 5 | Girls never keep plans, nor will they text to cancelI mean, at least she did send you a message at some point. However, I will say this. One thing that sent me in the direction of MGTOW was trying, trying, trying as far as dating, and I can't remember any woman ever making an effort to date me that was on the level of what was common for me to do, to try to impress them. I'd be trying to be their own personal comedian, and they'd sometimes communicate for a while, but it was just so easy for them to drop communication completely, with no explanat… | /r/MGTOW | 14/06/19 07:55 AM |
| 1 | First #SexStrike Now #BirthStrikeThere's another issue here that I think is important to recognize when you talk about climate change. The mainstream has lost its trust with a large share of the people. Maybe not the majority, but still a very large percentage. I think there are a lot of reasons for this, but here are some examples: Mainstream media has developed the appearance of becoming an editorial and taking sides. Some people believe that they mislead on purpose to support their side. This is not supposed to be possible i… | /r/MGTOW | 12/06/19 04:47 AM |
| 1 | Why is “loser” the go to word for females?Let's take that thought a step further: Why is "loser" even an insult? So, let's say that someone actually is already having a rough time; people think the thing to do is walk up to them and call them a "loser" as an insult? Instead of trying to help them? Would they walk up to a person with a horrible disease and call that person a "loser"? Would they say that to a homeless person? I think we all know that the person calling other people losers is often the person who should really be ashamed. | /r/MGTOW | 12/06/19 02:16 AM |
| 13 | Why is it so hard for people to comprehend that there are people out here who have no desire to date, marry, or have children?These societies where people think that they have to have a two-story house (even if you live by yourself), buy a new car every few years (even if you live in a big city and don't need a car at all -- and don't forget those car insurance payments and gasoline/car maintenance expenses too!), and throw lots of money into trying to "be cool," hoping to attract a partner: A lot of people in such societies are just 100 years away from ancestors who were profoundly poor by today's standards, poor farm… | /r/MGTOW | 12/06/19 01:56 AM |
| 2 | My mother still believes good women exist in my generationMy dog tries to say words. | /r/MGTOW | 11/06/19 04:56 AM |
| 2 | Not a MGTOW post but just a friendly reminderDeciding to live a simple life is a very big decision, and not a decision that is easily made, but also a decision with potentially great rewards. If I had made a decision when I was 18 years old, to spend as little money as possible, and to own at any given time only the things that I needed, wow, I could really have put away a lot of extra money by now. You can save so much money by buying used, like a used book compared to a new book. And it's so easy to find used books, used DVDs, and used C… | /r/MGTOW | 08/06/19 03:45 PM |
| 2 | 7200+ mass store closuresI'm pretty sure that the last time I went to a traditional retail store to buy a particular DVD (around 10 years ago), I had heard about this DVD being released on a certain date. It had been quite a while since I had cared about buying a DVD on its release date, and it sounded like a cool DVD, so I went to a big traditional retail store on release day to buy it. This was a pretty common sort of DVD, and it was exactly the sort of thing that I would have expected to see on the store shelves. I w… | /r/MGTOW | 08/06/19 04:13 AM |
| 2 | Hiding $250 000 debt and saying in the comments that she wants to get married and that he pays it of.One of my ex's hid, not her student loans, but her bad credit history from me. It is a bad idea to hide this sort of thing when a couple's relationship is getting more serious. The other partner is either going to be okay with it, or they will not be. Putting off that conversation does not make it any easier. I guess the idea of putting off that conversation is to allow the relationship to become more solid before mentioning it, with the idea that the guy will then be less likely to leave over t… | /r/MGTOW | 07/06/19 12:45 PM |
| 6 | My first red pill experience that caused me to GMOWMany years ago, back when I did online dating, I emailed this one woman on a dating website. She was interested in getting to know each other, and we started talking on the phone. We were going to set up a meeting, and I mentioned meeting near a subway station, because I didn't have a car. Suddenly "click". And she never would answer the phone or communicate with me again. It was like she was insulted that a guy without a car would try to date her! So she had to insult that guy back by hanging u… | /r/MGTOW | 07/06/19 06:19 AM |
| 1 | Is she getting her attention and something else from coworkers?I did the long-distance relationship stuff many times. Obviously, I can't comment on what's going on with your relationship, since I don't know either of you, but I can tell you about my experiences. I'm a shy and busy guy, and didn't get to meet a lot of people. I also thought that trying to meet single women in the offline world seemed horribly inefficient. So I had big hopes for online dating. My thoughts were that it would be much more efficient, because I could choose women to email out of … | /r/MGTOW | 07/06/19 04:17 AM |
| 2 | Any MGTOW vandwellers/RVers/nomads here?Since you are looking at this as retirement, what do you do if you are out on the ocean and have a medical emergency? How would you get to a hospital in time? I've thought it would be fun to retire to way out in the woods, but I always have to consider that most guys, in retirement, at some point have to go into emergency at a hospital, whether for heart attack or something else. | /r/MGTOW | 06/06/19 04:47 AM |
| 3 | At a bar next to a simpIt's always difficult to watch some guy thinking that saying the right words to a woman will make her like him, when there is no sign that she is interested at all. It's even more difficult to watch after learning about MGTOW-related material. Those guys should ask themselves first if they are a Chad, and be honest about their answer to that. If they are a Chad, it should be pretty clear to them, from how women have treated them in the past. If they aren't a Chad, and if there is no particular r… | /r/MGTOW | 05/06/19 06:26 AM |
| 1 | Anyone else had their former ex contact them to degrade them?One of my ex's would put me down after the breakup. She also seemed to want to debate who was right and wrong in the breakup. I absolutely would not follow her in that direction. What would have been the point? The relationship was already over. I was just glad to be out of the relationship and able to move forward with my own life. I communicated with her as little as possible after the breakup. As for the putdowns and insults, that I got from her, on the way out of the relationship, I think it… | /r/MGTOW | 04/06/19 04:12 AM |
| 1 | Why are men "friendzoning" me 'cause I have a boyfriend?The way she describes it, it sounds like: A. Before they find out she has a guy, they are friendly. B. After they find out she has a guy, they are not so friendly anymore. And this seems to bother her. Let's analyze this. Based on what she wrote, what is going on? The key moment where everything changes is when they find out that she has a guy. Why would this change things? I think the most obvious answer is that guys don't want to be seen as interfering in someone else's relationship. It's also… | /r/MGTOW | 02/06/19 04:25 AM |
| 2 | Baby Bust: Millennial Birth Rates Plunges To Three-Decade LowDo you think there's a chance that the labor that does exist will simply be moved to other careers -- like taking care of old people will suddenly become very well-paying? Maybe so well-paying that people are discouraged from retiring themselves (in combination with maybe their planned retirement income not going so far as planned)? I also wonder if buildings and land could suddenly become far more affordable. Also, "theoretically," less densely populated areas could require fewer regulations an… | /r/MGTOW | 01/06/19 04:00 AM |
| 13 | Got banned from AskMenOver30, apparently any mention of MGTOW or RedPill is bannedSo, I keep hearing that they don't like people to say "MGTOW" over there. I'm guessing that they probably give mainstream dating advice, like be a nice guy, keep trying, and put effort into dating. Now, there's nothing wrong with being a nice guy, but if they tell me that advice, all I can think is that that's what I did when I dated, and it didn't work; that is, I never had a romantic relationship that worked out well. Not only that, but everyone sees attractive women going for Chads, and they … | /r/MGTOW | 26/05/19 03:00 PM |
| 1 | What is happening to mainstream music and the media?I think some of the worst stuff in the past ten years is the dance stuff that seems to be marketed toward younger people. If you find a radio station that is marketed toward adults, you'll find less of that type of music; if you get away from that type of music, there was actually some decent new radio music for a few years, starting maybe five years ago. I can't say if there's much good new music now, because I've mostly quit listening to the radio. About the only time that I hear new music now… | /r/MGTOW | 23/05/19 09:31 AM |
| 1 | I came here to laugh at some nice guys but ended up becoming MGTOWNo person should get mad at another person for not dating them. It's everyone's personal decision whom they want to date, or even not to date at all, at least in modern society. However, in my opinion, it's fair to be disappointed that so many of us are told that it's what's on the inside of us that counts -- and then we see so many cases where this just doesn't apply to dating. And I don't mean like only 1% of attractive women are willing to date an ugly guy with not much going for him except w… | /r/MGTOW | 23/05/19 02:38 AM |
| 3 | Do you guys ever deal with inferiority?Here's something to remember about comparing oneself to others, in general: The more successful you get in this world, the more and more successful the people around you are likely to be. If you work really hard, don't be surprised if you find a lot of geniuses around you. It's easy for anyone to wish that they were as smart or successful as some of the people around them, in that situation. But then imagine if that person goes to a place filled with unsuccessful people. Then that person might d… | /r/MGTOW | 22/05/19 06:42 AM |
| 1 | It’s been 10 minutes and I’ve gotten 6 angry DM’sI think that two really important changes in the romantic relationship world were: (1) Women became more able to economically support themselves while being single, for reasons such as entering the labor force over the last 80 years. (2) Divorce became more common and became considered more normal. Both of these changes have some very good effects: Regarding (1), it's good for everyone to be able to support themselves independently, as much as possible. Regarding (2), who wants an absolutely mis… | /r/MGTOW | 19/05/19 08:48 AM |
| 9 | Am I the only one who couldn't stand the 2010s atmosphere?Every decade has some good stuff. It depends on what you enjoy, and if you happen to be in the right place at the right time to actually know about what good things a particular decade has to offer. Regarding the 2010's, what really messed up this decade in my opinion was that I can't tell you how many times that I heard about stories from other people about the public being manipulated by major websites, by mainstream news sources, and/or by the entertainment industry. It seemed to go way, way … | /r/MGTOW | 19/05/19 07:55 AM |
| 2 | Saw an episode of The Big Bang TheoryI think that "Big Bang Theory" was an attempt to have a traditional TV comedy. I'd be fine with that, but it's very difficult for me to get over how the Hollywood entertainment industry largely acts. I'm tired of Hollywood acting like a political ad for corporate Democrats. It would be one thing if it felt like they were making honest debate. They seem to me to do a poor job explaining to persuade people of other opinions. I feel like they ignore all sorts of important points from other opinions… | /r/MGTOW | 17/05/19 07:35 AM |
| 2 | I quit NetflixI think money is a pretty good explanation for what probably happened. A while back, I think I noticed pay services that were starting to offer a lot of documentaries. Maybe the documentary rights owners didn't realize at first, what the value of those shows was. Maybe they figured out that it was worth more, and got better deals? | /r/MGTOW | 15/05/19 12:54 AM |
| 3 | I quit NetflixIt's funny that you mention this because just today, I was looking at some of the free channels on my Roku device. When I first got my Roku device, about four years ago, I added all kinds of free channels -- just lots of stuff that looked fun, like "Wow, I never thought I'd see a whole TV channel like this or that." I'm wondering if Roku was at its peak at that time. I remember finding a completely free documentary channel -- I used to find all kinds of interesting, memorable documentaries to wa… | /r/MGTOW | 14/05/19 07:42 AM |
| 4 | How did you find out she was cheating. (AWALT)People blame social media for issues with the dating world, but how about just the fact that phones and other ways of communicating, such as email, are much more tied to just individual people now. When I was a kid, my family had one phone, a landline. When the phone rang, the whole family would typically be curious about who it was (if it wasn't obvious). It was just about impossible for anyone to have any privacy, with a busy household. The other main means of communication, the mailbox, was a… | /r/MGTOW | 14/05/19 07:13 AM |
| 1 | What's the Deal with Women in Their Mid-Twenties Being Interested in Middle-Aged Guys?I'm not complaining so much as curious to be experiencing this. I am kind of complaining about how the timing works out. The attention would have meant so much more to me when I was in my twenties. As a poor college student, maybe dating some attractive women in their twenties could have been fun. But to get attention ten years after basically checking out of dating -- it's like life playing a joke on me. It's somewhat fun to get the attention after being ignored by women when I used to try to d… | /r/MGTOW | 12/05/19 06:31 PM |
| 2 | What's the Deal with Women in Their Mid-Twenties Being Interested in Middle-Aged Guys?The point of the post is why are they giving me attention. If I wasn't getting attention like that when I was in my twenties, I don't see why I should be getting that attention now. If you ask me, I would have thought that they would be looking for a Chad around their own age...at least, it seemed like that was the way a lot of the people dated back in college. I don't see where you are getting your conclusion from what I posted. | /r/MGTOW | 12/05/19 08:46 AM |
| 3 | What's the Deal with Women in Their Mid-Twenties Being Interested in Middle-Aged Guys?Are you saying that you believe that they are only interested in me because I am doing well financially? | /r/MGTOW | 12/05/19 08:18 AM |
| 4 | What's the Deal with Women in Their Mid-Twenties Being Interested in Middle-Aged Guys?One thing that would really set me back would be marriage followed by a bad divorce. As I basically said in the original post, I can't really see this as leading to me dating again. At this point in my life, it's more like a curious experience. Still, it does make me think about the world, how I used to think about dating, and the experiences that I had that led me to MGTOW. Attractive women in their twenties probably could have easily dated me when I was in college, and back then I could have r… | /r/MGTOW | 12/05/19 07:23 AM |
| 2 | Why I don't want a girlfriendThat’s true, but what makes life worth living now that the love illusion is gone? I miss the good times with my ex wife, fake or not. I have no interests in anything since she left. Everything seems pointless and boring. Is anyone happy being single? If so, how? Here's one way to look at it: In my case, I tried dating long enough, and had enough disappointment, that I really don't feel like I have reason to believe that things would be any different from before, if I were to continue to date. No… | /r/MGTOW | 08/05/19 02:05 AM |
| 7 | Apparently, the Wikipedia page for MGTOW is under assault. Feminazis are editing the page and spreading lies about out philosophy. I am going to guard the page, but I may need help. Any confirmed editors, please help me guard our reputation.One thing that I've noticed online is that, whenever a website gains quite a bit of influence, it seems like there are always people who can't wait to see how it can be used to their own advantage. Because of this, I've found that those websites tend to then lose a lot of their value, with respect to social or political commentary. For that, it's probably better to go to smaller independent sources online. Expect big and mainstream to tend to be useful mainly for either dry subjects that everyda… | /r/MGTOW | 07/05/19 06:17 AM |
| 2 | Even the Queen of Pop herself has hit the Wall and won't admit itShe was one of the biggest music stars for years and years. If the music industry didn't want her on television, then I assume that she wouldn't have been on television very much. So, I don't really understand what that quote means. The singers who have really been "held back" -- we probably don't even know who they are because we've never seen them on TV! | /r/MGTOW | 05/05/19 04:24 AM |
| 1 | Madonna thinks she's being punished for being 60 years old.I saw her on some pretty pointless music awards show lately, performing. At least, I'm pretty sure it was her. I'll be fair to her, as someone who has listened to a lot of popular music. For a woman pop star, she was one of the best. I'm pretty sure that she is the one that a lot of the woman pop music singers now try to be like. Usually, they get nowhere near Madonna level. That being said, the performance that I saw the other day on television was pretty disappointing (anyone else see it?) I w… | /r/MGTOW | 05/05/19 04:08 AM |
| 1 | Imagine being so thirsty you would buy a 2000 dollars ticket to a PUA seminar.The one guy's explanation for why a guy might have trouble dating is that the guy is uninteresting, self centered, and one-dimensional. How many times have people seen women chasing Chads that are exactly that? It so often seems like people who are still into dating have this need to believe that it is fair, so much so that they can't notice what is going on right in front of them in the world. They can't say, "Dating is easy, just make sure that you are a Chad. If you aren't a Chad, oh well." B… | /r/MGTOW | 04/05/19 03:22 PM |
| 4 | This isn't going to jibe well in here, yet needs saying.I wouldn't always assume that, in every failed romantic relationship situation, each party is equally responsible. Maybe sometimes that is the case, but I don't see why it would always have to be equally responsible. I think that it's a tempting way to describe it, because it sounds very fair and open-minded. But let's be honest here. Aren't there very likely times when one party is far more at fault than the other, sometimes the man and sometimes the woman? I don't think it's fair to a good per… | /r/MGTOW | 04/05/19 06:17 AM |
| 8 | Does anyone enjoy being an introvert?I am a shy person, and also someone who can be perfectly happy by myself. It takes a lot of effort and energy for me to be social, and it tires me out. Plus, the typical social time-wasters (like sitting around at a bar) were never very enjoyable for me. Number one, I couldn't hear what anyone else was saying. Number two, there was always something else that I would have rather been doing with my time, and I felt like I was wasting time at a bar. I also never felt like I was going to meet the wo… | /r/MGTOW | 04/05/19 05:27 AM |
| 4 | Why do so many young women hate their fathers?I know of a woman (who is now middle-aged) who had incredibly good parents, became distant from them, and now no longer treats them properly at all. Here is what I think happened: In the last several decades, popular culture has really done a terrible thing to the new generations, and to families. I think that a lot of it started with television in the home. It is such an accessible medium that it becomes competition with the family as far as ideas. Sometimes television has encouraged good ideas… | /r/MGTOW | 03/05/19 08:25 PM |
| 2 | How many of you have lost 90-99% of faith in humanity? I literally don't trust anyone anymore.There are still very good people out there. If you are lucky, you can have those kinds of good friendships with your close relatives. If you aren't so lucky, and if you still want to find such friendships (which you may or may not feel that you need to have), you can still find good people out there, although it might take some effort. The thing is, especially if you are a busy person, you probably don't even have time for that many close friendships. So, it's not like you need to find 20 such f… | /r/MGTOW | 03/05/19 07:46 PM |
| 2 | Washington Post: If male candidates want to show they get it, they should get outHow about coming up with a really good plan for society, explain clearly why it is honestly the best plan to choose, and give people a reason to believe that one can and will carry out such plan if elected? From what you've referenced from the article, it sounds like the author talks about a lot of things, but not what I wrote just above. One other thing, where is she getting that the media treats women politicians unfairly, after all the positive help that Hillary got from mainstream media in 2… | /r/MGTOW | 02/05/19 05:42 AM |
| 1 | You do realize that half of the population cannot be the same type of person right?I don't think that most people mean AWALT literally because none of them know every single woman. I think they use it more as a sort of "rule of thumb." In other words, these guys have found certain situations so common that that is why they say AWALT. Keep in mind that not everyone here has the same opinions. I don't use the term AWALT, but my point was to explain to you why I think that some people use it. You do see a lot of negative opinions on this group, and it is probably good for those g… | /r/MGTOW | 30/04/19 02:38 PM |
| 4 | The hypocrisy of this sub.This is a group for guys who have given up on serious romantic relationships. But you are saying that the bad relationship experiences that people had -- that led many of the guys here -- should not be talked about? It seems like it would be one of the main things that people have in common here. Read some of the really horrible relationship stories that get posted here. Imagine if you were in the shoes of the guys in those stories. Don't you think that it's possible that you might be unhappy an… | /r/MGTOW | 30/04/19 06:37 AM |
| 1 | I hope you all find happiness...I feel like you are trying to protest something that is different from what this group actually is. What you wrote would likely come across as just plain inaccurate to someone familiar with this group. | /r/MGTOW | 30/04/19 06:08 AM |
| 1 | How Feminism Is Driving The Growing Trend Of Anti-Women SubculturesA guy can be MGTOW and not blame women for how dating is. After all, everyone is free to make their own dating decisions. Just blame the dating system, not women. It just doesn't work out well for a lot of us. Someone who thinks that all MGTOW have to be negative doesn't understand MGTOW. | /r/MGTOW | 30/04/19 04:22 AM |
| 4 | How Feminism Is Driving The Growing Trend Of Anti-Women SubculturesI didn't read the article, but it sounds like a total propaganda piece. Do they even try to understand what they are writing about, or do they just get assigned to write an article for the purpose of ripping on one group of people or another? | /r/MGTOW | 30/04/19 04:07 AM |
| 4 | You do realize that half of the population cannot be the same type of person right?In my opinion, it seems like you are over-simplifying what is said on this group. This group takes time to understand -- you have to read it as a whole. You're probably not going to understand it from browsing it for an hour, or from a paragraph that some outsider wrote about it. You also have to take into account that many opinions here are strictly those of the individual who wrote them -- they aren't really part of what MGTOW is, nor do they represent what everyone else here thinks. As you mi… | /r/MGTOW | 28/04/19 06:45 PM |
| 6 | Women didn't want to be with me. But that is not the reason why I am MGTOW.The thing that disappointed me was that I felt like I was misled by society. So, society tells us all to build ourselves up, get a good job, and be good people, and there is this assumption that there will be a good partner that we meet -- kind of like a reward for being a good person. I don't know if anyone ever specifically tells us that, but certainly are we ever told that if we become a good person and work hard, that there will be no one for us? Or no one except someone who is not very attr… | /r/MGTOW | 28/04/19 05:26 PM |
| 1 | "Aww, man. She cheated? That sucks. Were you paying enough attention to her? Maybe you needed to give her more. Don't worry, just keep looking until you find the one that stays!"My advice is to get going on building your future in a positive direction, and just keep slowly building it for a while, and make things even better whenever you can. It may seem boring to do the same stuff for years and years at a time, but I think that it is the key to success for a lot of people. Think of all these people that are constantly switching jobs, buying and selling houses (not as a business), getting married and divorced, moving all over the country, and so on. Think how much they … | /r/MGTOW | 26/04/19 04:01 AM |
| 1 | Hey um, why do you group all female people together and hate them? What about like, your mom?What you are saying in your title is not accurate about this group. In my opinion, a lot of outsiders stop by this group, take a quick look, read some comments by some guys who might have gone through some really rough experiences, and then assume that that is what everyone in this group believes, or that that is what MGTOW means. It's just not true. The main definition that I've heard for MGTOW is just the decision for a guy to remain single from serious romantic relationships. There can be all… | /r/MGTOW | 20/04/19 03:50 AM |
| 1 | Does anyone going their own way find themselves questioning that path and the lack of sex and children that it leads to? New to the sub and wondering what people do about those fundamental biological drives.If you keep going back to what about wanting to reproduce, then I think that you're going to get trapped in a circular argument. For example, I think that a lot of MGTOW guys started out in their early twenties as wanting to get married and possibly have a family as well. But then either they could never date whom they wanted to date, or whenever they dated (or married) someone they wanted to date (or marry), it always turned out badly. So, after a while of that, such a guy basically has two cho… | /r/MGTOW | 19/04/19 06:14 AM |
| 2 | How Do You Accept Your Just Not That Smart?I'd say that it's probably more important to be a good person, and a happy person, than it is to be smart. We all get different sets of qualities, and we typically don't have much control over what we get. I may be good at certain brain tasks, but women typically don't find me to be attractive. Other people got that quality. I'm also not a very good athlete. The key is to find what you can do, and what you are good at, as well as the sort of jobs that you would be okay with having. Then do your … | /r/MGTOW | 17/04/19 05:34 AM |
| 3 | Never visit other subs with your MGTOW accountI feel like you may be confusing MGTOW with individual opinions on this group (which is common when people disagree with this group). The most typical definition of MGTOW basically is just saying that at least some guys may be better off staying single. Some guys reach this conclusion based on their own romantic relationship experiences. I spent 15 years trying to date and wanting a serious romantic relationship, and there just was nothing for me that ever worked out properly. At some point, I h… | /r/MGTOW | 14/04/19 05:41 PM |
| 1 | Thanks MGTOW for helping me understand My oldest son. He's redpilled AF!How could one's consciousness be uploaded into a robot? Wouldn't that just be running a simulation of one's personality on a robot? I could write a simple program to (very poorly) attempt to simulate my personality. If I were to run that program, I don't think that I would feel any of my consciousness being inside of that computer. If I could make that program a million times more complicated and accurate, why would that make my consciousness any more likely to go into that computer? | /r/MGTOW | 14/04/19 01:01 PM |
| 14 | HEY MGTOW!!! Share your story of how you got red-pilled.I spent 15 years (my twenties and some of my thirties) trying to date. I noticed that it was very difficult to date anyone attractive at all. On the rare occasion that I could date -- or get any attention back from the women -- it was so easy for them to lose interest. It was like they were giving me a chance, but just barely and could easily walk away for someone "better." I know that I am not a Chad, but I am reasonably successful in other ways. I always thought that other things, like persona… | /r/MGTOW | 19/03/19 03:05 PM |
| 5 | Any MGTOW Thoughts on That College Admissions News Story?One more thing, some of the money numbers being thrown around in the news stories, if accurate, are enough that they could have just given the money to the kid, and the kid arguably could have lived off of investing that money, without ever needing college or a job. Unbelievable. | /r/MGTOW | 13/03/19 02:47 PM |
| 3 | Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’I don't have any issues with women, because I get along well with them in my daily life. However, I think that the dating system is pretty much broken. If you are not a Chad especially, modern dating seems so pointless. It's like nothing can make up for not having the look that the women like. I've had the experience of putting all kinds of effort into winning their interest, talking to them for hours, trying to be their personal entertainer, trying to make them laugh -- and I also have built up… | /r/MGTOW | 08/03/19 02:23 PM |
| 5 | The joy of being an ugly MGTOWOne great thing about MGTOW is that a lot of the most unfair parts of life just go away. This is because dating and romantic relationships are one of the most unfair parts of life -- and it's generally accepted by society. For example: Imagine if an employer openly rejected people for a job, using the same reasons that people get rejected for a date. Like "too ugly to hire." This probably actually happens sometimes, but certainly not as often as in dating, and certainly not as openly. When you w… | /r/MGTOW | 07/03/19 02:56 PM |
| 34 | 97,000 Men are Done with the BullshitThe subscriber number really seems to be going up in the past week. I'm not sure what's going on -- maybe we've reached some magic number where the idea spreads more quickly -- but at this rate, the group could be over 100,000 subscribers within ten days. | /r/MGTOW | 06/03/19 03:42 AM |
| 3 | How vice views MGTOW.Aren't they supposed to be journalists? It looks like they put so much thought into it that they weren't any more informed about MGTOW than the outsider reddit posters who come to this group just to rip on it. If all it takes to be a journalist these days is type up whatever thoughts are floating through one's brain at the moment, maybe something that a friend talked about the other day, then I guess most people on reddit could be a journalist. | /r/MGTOW | 04/03/19 05:17 AM |
| 17 | James Woods was dis invited to Captain Marvel by a radical feminist.Wouldn't it be funny if guys not only didn't go to this movie, but also almost totally quit consuming entertainment industry product, because of both this movie, and the way Hollywood now acts toward the public? | /r/MGTOW | 03/03/19 05:47 PM |
| 2 | New Jillete ad trying too win back customers.First, it's the Internet. Second, it is just a commercial, which can be easily just ignored if you don't like it. I actually have never bothered to watch the original commercial, so a lot of my opinions are just what I've heard about it. I heard that it basically was saying that men need to do a better job, based on what has been in the news, an apparent reference to all the cases of improper behavior among rich, famous men, many in Hollywood. There you see one reason why guys didn't care for it… | /r/MGTOW | 03/03/19 04:04 AM |
| 4 | Me (M34) and fiancee (F27), I am in the process of calling a halt to our wedding as she has asked for an "open" relationship.Everyone is a product, at least in part, of the knowledge that is available to them, and importantly the knowledge that is NOT available to them. Not having important information, and not even knowing that you are missing out on that information, can lead to a person having a completely different life, sometimes a much lower standard of living. For a lot of people, when they want to understand something, they look to the mainstream, like the best-selling mainstream book on something. There is an… | /r/MGTOW | 02/03/19 04:12 PM |
| 3 | Being alone forever.Hey, I'm someone who didn't attract women easily. I tried and tried, for many years, and guess what? I finally got a serious romantic relationship with an attractive woman, even though a Chad can have the same thing with basically no effort. Also, guess what happened? She had all kinds of problems that she covered up at first. But it all slowly came to light. I think she basically dated me because she had so many problems that she couldn't get anyone "better." That's not a very nice way to treat… | /r/MGTOW | 26/02/19 01:53 AM |
| 1 | Reddit is a cesspool full of liberal retards.I think that it's fair to say that anyone on the main news channels who lines up with either "mainstream" (that is, pro-rich-people) Republicans or "mainstream" (that is, pro-rich-people) Democrats has a good chance that they are only on TV to push what rich people want the public to believe. It's sad. When I was growing up, maybe I didn't know any better, but I thought mainstream news was honest journalism. Thinking back, they pushed things too. I always thought the host of "Nightline" was real… | /r/MGTOW | 22/02/19 11:13 PM |
| 2 | Reddit is a cesspool full of liberal retards.Why do you think it has become this way? My guess is too much centralization of wealth and media control. If our media were pretty much evenly divided among 1000 independent companies, they would be very difficult to control. Individually, none would have overwhelming influence either. So my guess is that there would be more care about being professional journalists, and less interest in pushing a particular political view, whether or not that view is correct or what they really believe. But ima… | /r/MGTOW | 22/02/19 07:44 AM |
| 1 | Redditor says "If Captain Marvel does badly it's not going to be because of misogyny, it's going to be because the trailers make it look boring"When I was young, the main superheroes were the ones like Spider-Man, Superman, Batman and Robin, Hulk, Iron Man, Thor, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Silver Surfer, The Flash, Captain America, Fantastic Four, Aqua-Man, Daredevil, X-Men; I'm probably forgetting some important ones. Even back then, there were probably HUNDREDS of comic-book characters. A lot of them were villains and other side characters who only showed up in the stories from time to time. Captain Marvel? I'm not even 100% sure th… | /r/MGTOW | 22/02/19 06:05 AM |
| 2 | Dating for 2 months, let's analyse his whole life and fix him.Society would prefer a guy spend $1000 or more per month (if it's an expensive area), paying rent to some apartment company owned by people that he doesn't even know; Compared to: Live with his parents, either save that money himself, or give some or all of it to his parents. Also, the guy is around his parents, if they should need any help. Assuming they all get along, I think it's probably good for his parents that he is around -- that's another person to talk to and share life with, for them.… | /r/MGTOW | 22/02/19 05:09 AM |
| 1 | Coming to terms with being alone for the rest of your lifeOh, trust me, I'm far from being what most attractive women like. I didn't even have my first date until WAY into my twenties. Every romantic relationship that I ever had, it was easy for the woman to dump me. I only had one serious romantic relationship (many years after I started dating) , and she had all kinds of problems. Thinking about it now, I'm pretty sure that she was only with me because she had so many problems that she couldn't get anyone "better." Also, I want to say that I spent an… | /r/MGTOW | 22/02/19 02:31 AM |
| 1 | Coming to terms with being alone for the rest of your lifeFor me, the more time that passes since I walked away from dating, and the more MGTOW-related material that I read, the less I worry about never getting into another romantic relationship. So, I didn't get to follow a dream that I used to have. I have many other things in my life that are going great. Honestly, it would be difficult to find the time to date again, even if I wanted to. I don't attract women very easily, but I've had some romantic relationships with attractive women. Before I had … | /r/MGTOW | 21/02/19 04:58 AM |
| 2 | Is there some cure/theraphy that will make me forget all the women I could have but was too (anything)You asked if there is a "cure" for feeling like that -- you're already here on this group. MGTOW can help you with that. Have you ever seen "The Wizard of Oz"? It's been a while since I've seen it, but I think there's a scene at the end where each of the main characters is told by the Wizard of Oz that they each had the particular thing that they were searching for, all along. Similarly, you already have the ability to get over feelings like that. You just have to realize that there's no way of … | /r/MGTOW | 14/02/19 05:29 AM |
| 1 | Any advice for dealing with Valentines Day tomorrow?One year for Valentine's Day, I think I took my now-ex to the nicest, most expensive restaurant that I knew about it in my city at the time. A matter of months later, on top of other problems, it appeared that she was almost certainly cheating on me. | /r/MGTOW | 14/02/19 04:38 AM |
| 6 | I pulled the plug on my match.com and POF dating profilesFor any regular (that is, non-Chad) guy who is still doing online dating, here's an experiment for you: Next time you are going to send a message to a woman on an online dating website -- right before you send that email -- and, again, if you are a non-Chad -- I predict that you either (a) get no response, (b) get a response but it doesn't lead anywhere, or (c) it turns out to be something you didn't want. Then, if you still choose to send that message, see if this prediction was correct. If you… | /r/MGTOW | 12/02/19 10:57 AM |
| 3 | The Grammy's Was Like, So Totally CuckedI saw parts of the show. I wouldn't have watched any of it, but someone else where I live was watching it. The best part by far was the old legends. They made the "stars of today" look like they were just learning their job. I think it was because the old legends just acted like normal, classic entertainers who were happy to be there. From what I saw, the political stuff seemed much less than on past award shows. It was almost like someone got a clue and made an effort to make it this way. Still… | /r/MGTOW | 11/02/19 05:34 AM |
| 1 | wtf is wrong with you peopleIf you are serious about understanding this group, in my opinion, it takes about 6 weeks. Thirty minutes is going to pretty predictably give you the impression that it appears that you got. In thirty minutes what you are likely to notice are the negative posts. There's a lot of that, but if you were to spend more time to understand the group, you may realize that a lot of these guys have been through a really bad time. As for the number of those posts, it's probably because that's how a lot of g… | /r/MGTOW | 11/02/19 04:49 AM |
| 3 | Why I'm MGTOWDon't you think that a lot of this happens because romantic relationships now seem to often be thought of as mere entertainment? I mean, do you ever see really old black-and-white photos of families, from like the early 1900's, or even family home movies from the 1950's or 1960's? Look at the old folks in those pictures, grandma and grandpa. Do you think that grandma and grandpa saw themselves the same way as college students dating? I don't. I think there is much more: It's a partnership -- the… | /r/MGTOW | 05/02/19 05:40 AM |
| 26 | I get the vibe that a sizable minority or perhaps majority of us are disillusioned Chads. Thoughts?Some of the most interesting posts that I've seen on this group are from the guys for whom dating was easy, yet they still went MGTOW. As a guy who usually had to put a ridiculous amount of effort into dating, for usually no interest in return, it was really wild to think that a guy who could ask a woman for a date -- and know that he had a good chance at getting "yes" as an answer -- that such a guy would ever think of walking away from dating. Here's the thing though. A lot of these guys are r… | /r/MGTOW | 04/02/19 05:23 AM |
| 1 | Red GreenI avoid most current TV shows, except for rare situations like I accidentally see a TV that has one going. I think there's something wrong with modern mainstream comedies. For starters, many of them seem to think that comedy is all about talking really fast and spewing out the jokes, as many and as quickly as possible. This makes the characters all seem nervous, awkward, or dysfunctional; in many cases, the characters are already that way anyway. The jokes can't actually be very funny, so they a… | /r/MGTOW | 04/02/19 02:02 AM |
| 2 | Red GreenI remember the guys on the show regularly being awkward and messing things up. But I don't think it was mean-spirited. It was kind of like "Home Improvement." If you want a MGTOW show, a mainstream comedy anyway, it's difficult to think of something closer than "Married With Children." But a mainstream show that is straight-up MGTOW, even without mentioning the term -- I can't see it. Maybe as an independent web show, it could be possible. (Some TV guy on the group will probably correct me -- th… | /r/MGTOW | 04/02/19 01:17 AM |
| 1 | Can’t even talk to women at the bar anymoreYou probably have a pretty good idea if you are a Chad or not. If you are not a Chad, why bother? Wasn't there a story on this group a while back about women taking phone videos of nice guys approaching them at bars, so they could make fun of them to their faces on the video and then post it online? I have heard that bars used to be places where everyday people went to socialize and meet new people, perhaps even meet their future husband or wife. If that's true, then how that has fallen! I almos… | /r/MGTOW | 04/02/19 12:34 AM |
| 3 | Red GreenThat is a good show, and incredibly funny considering that it was probably rated PG. I wouldn't say that Red Green was a MGTOW show, but it did kind of celebrate being a man in its own way, while of course also finding humor there. It was probably a better show than almost anything new on TV now. | /r/MGTOW | 03/02/19 11:52 PM |
| 1 | Apparently MGTOW is a beta male cultI'm not sure that words like "alpha" or "beta" even make sense to apply to a MGTOW guy anymore, after a MGTOW guy has walked away from a dating system that has such concepts. | /r/MGTOW | 03/02/19 02:24 PM |
| 9 | {SERIOUS QUESTION} throughout my life women hurt me and broke my trust countless times. What happened in yours that you decided to GYOW?Basically I gave dating a try for a very long time. It just never worked out. I wanted to marry someone who I thought was particularly great, not simply any woman who was willing to marry me. Of the women that I found to be attractive, most of the time they were not interested in me at all. Another time, I finally did get a serious romantic relationship, but she had all kinds of problems that she covered up at first, and they all slowly came out into the open. I also had some less serious romant… | /r/MGTOW | 03/02/19 02:51 AM |
| 16 | Subbreddit ranking: r/MGTOW is ranked 1664 in size and 204 in activity.For any guy that has ever been puzzled by dating or romantic relationships (I'm thinking there's a lot of them), this group can be very interesting. I'm amazed about how many guys have been through very similar experiences. A lot of the time, you'll also find at least attempts to explain why things are the way that they are, like why the response rate is so low on dating websites. Even though I haven't dated in years, I also wondered about that when I tried online dating. I can imagine that a lo… | /r/MGTOW | 02/02/19 02:39 AM |
| 3 | How do you stop thinking about women in general and move on?It helps to not be a Chad. I can see how a Chad could have difficulty going MGTOW. Like, imagine if every time that you saw a beautiful, single woman, if you knew that the chances were good that, if you asked her, that she would likely be interested in dating. If you are not a Chad, it gets way easier, in my opinion. For example, every single dating experience, dating-like experience (for example, getting to know in the hopes of later dating), or serious romantic relationship that I ever had nev… | /r/MGTOW | 28/01/19 08:30 AM |
| 3 | Remember lads, unless she dates you while at her peak prime (18-22) when she could get some Chad effortlessly but chooses you instead, you are not her first choice, you are her backup plan and she doesn't actually feel anything for youbriochefaces wrote: At 20 a persons brain hasn’t even finished developing fully, and you think this is when women reach their prime? Unbelievable. Here is the issue with what you are saying: From my experiences with how I was treated in the dating world, and from watching and reading about other peoples' dating experiences, most people, especially attractive people, and probably BOTH women and men, do NOT use intelligence, personality, or any of that "brain" stuff to select who they are attracte… | /r/MGTOW | 26/01/19 04:21 PM |
| 4 | The sooner you walk away from politics the happier you'll beI think that a lot of the problem with politics is the centralization of wealth. People can use their wealth to magnify their voice over others, and push for policies that benefit themselves. If not for this, perhaps the politicians would mainly have the same goal, to do good things for the public, and there would be no need for politics to be so divided. It's not the worst idea to disconnect from the day-to-day political talk, which often seems like propaganda. Especially with respect to the 20… | /r/MGTOW | 25/01/19 08:25 AM |
| 2 | Friend of mine thought a girl was into him but she was freeloading.Based on my college experiences, try to avoid the social stuff there as much as possible. Some people in college think it's some big social gathering or party, instead of something meant to train them for their career. I'm not saying not to have friends, but I suggest building a small circle of people to talk to and spend time with -- other serious students. It helps if they are studying for the same major because you've got that in common with them, plus you've then got people to work with if o… | /r/MGTOW | 23/01/19 01:15 PM |
| 3 | Calendar of declinePoisonIvy21 wrote: There are no women regretting the loss of you lot I promise you. Thankfully I’m moving out of the country because man are American men just a bunch of whiners nowadays. Came on here just to see the fuss and I don’t even know how you all stand ... to each other’s complaints and self validation. Seems depressing to me but all well. Feel free to downvote I don’t care, someone had to say it. Geesh. I don't feel like you understand the group. If women don't mind MGTOW leaving the d… | /r/MGTOW | 22/01/19 05:58 AM |
| 1 | "Ooh La La" by Faces. The Unofficial Theme Song of MGTOW?I've thought about what you wrote here. Moderation is good and bad both. Less moderation means more open discussion, and less of a chance of people "accidentally" getting banned, for example, when they misunderstand how the rules are applied. However, less moderation also means for the chance of a lot of lower-quality posts. I've seen the early days of discussion groups when people worked together, I assume unpaid, to do really cool projects. Some of those people went on to become somewhat well-… | /r/MGTOW | 22/01/19 02:17 AM |
| 1 | "Ooh La La" by Faces. The Unofficial Theme Song of MGTOW?Fair enough. You have persuaded me. Unless I somehow forget, I do not plan to make another MGTOW music post like this one again, at least not such a simple one. I think that I was only doing about one of these posts per year anyway, so I'm not exactly the person to be leading the debate on making these posts. I appreciate that you are consistent. You aren't just singling out song posts, you are arguing for quality overall. I've followed this MGTOW group for a while, and I was somewhat aware that… | /r/MGTOW | 20/01/19 04:43 AM |
| 1 | "Ooh La La" by Faces. The Unofficial Theme Song of MGTOW?Why would I go to the trouble of a copyright analysis, to figure out exactly what I could post, and that someone else could disagree with anyway, for something as minor as a reddit post? I don't think Rule 10 requires an essay. Just look at what gets posted on this group. It's easy to find short posts that are just asking the group a quick question, or sharing some quick experience or thought that someone had in their daily life (in a small number of sentences). Some people post links too. In th… | /r/MGTOW | 19/01/19 09:32 PM |
| 1 | "Ooh La La" by Faces. The Unofficial Theme Song of MGTOW?I don't post lyrics because of concerns about copyright. Anyone interested can buy the song for not much money. You really don't need me to analyze the lyrics for you anyway -- if you listen to the song, I think you'll be able to easily tell what I am talking about. Honestly, the impression that I get from you is that you're not a popular music fan, and that you are just tired of seeing these types of posts, bored with them maybe. The only thing about that is, isn't part of this group about shar… | /r/MGTOW | 19/01/19 09:58 AM |
| 2 | "Ooh La La" by Faces. The Unofficial Theme Song of MGTOW?The reason I called it "Unofficial Theme Song of MGTOW?" was because, if you listen to the lyrics of the song, it's amazing how much it mirrors some of the themes discussed in this group. I wasn't literally trying to get the song "elected" to anything, just seeing what people thought about the song in relation to MGTOW. As we all know, there is no official MGTOW anything. There isn't even any UNofficial MGTOW anything. There is no actual way to have such things because MGTOW is a philosophy, not… | /r/MGTOW | 18/01/19 02:40 PM |
| 1 | Anyone else find it harder and harder to spend time with family after being redpilled?One of my friends told me about a family he knows where everyone gets along, except for one person, who has basically done everything she can to spoil her relationships with her family. It's like she is totally falling apart emotionally, and no one can do anything to help her. This is someone who is able to keep a job, and have a conversation, but has these ideas about her own family and how horrible she thinks they are, and no one else in the family sees what in the world she is talking about, … | /r/MGTOW | 18/01/19 06:51 AM |
| 1 | YouTube is erasing people's opinions on the Gillette adAs one example, watch mainstream media news. Do you think poor people control what is on there? | /r/MGTOW | 17/01/19 07:06 AM |
| 7 | YouTube is erasing people's opinions on the Gillette adDo you think that it's possible that there is a ridiculous amount of money being poured into specialized "public relations" companies, to patrol social media and spread certain ideas while putting down opposing ideas? Whether political ideas or opinions about companies or products? That would explain why comments are so similar -- people would be getting the same "top-down" centralized training about how they are supposed to do their jobs, and this could even be similar across the "field" with d… | /r/MGTOW | 17/01/19 06:25 AM |
| 13 | Gillette cancellation formANoidThrowAway wrote: You’re not being blamed. You are just getting ... and offended because you are too insecure to realize that you’re not being targeted. If you’re a ..., than maybe you are, but if you’re a good person, you should’ve be upset by this at all. Men and women are not opposing forces People are just speaking their opinions, just like countless people do on reddit about countless things. One person's whining is another person's speaking up for themselves. I mean, you are speaking y… | /r/MGTOW | 17/01/19 05:04 AM |
| 6 | Gillette cancellation formDo you like being blamed for things that someone else did, that you DON'T agree with, and that you had no connection to, nor any ability to affect? | /r/MGTOW | 17/01/19 04:04 AM |
| 2 | TheBestMenCanBe.org - Gillettes ResponseUh, it's SHAVING SUPPLIES. Why are they acting like they know us, or have any idea of how good of men we are? And why exactly are they, a SHAVING SUPPLIES brand, a proper voice for guidance for men to listen to, on how to live our lives, more than other sources? They make SHAVING SUPPLIES. Their business is SHAVING SUPPLIES. Why aren't they telling us why we should buy their SHAVING SUPPLIES? A lot of the MeToo stuff happened in non-typical environments like Hollywood and the television industry… | /r/MGTOW | 16/01/19 08:31 AM |
| 2 | Gillette Boycott Imminent: #MeToo Gillette Ad "We Believe" Makes A Bid For The Virtue Signal Dollar–– Identity politics is getting stupider and stupider every day.Decades ago -- don't want to be more specific. Is it different now? | /r/MGTOW | 16/01/19 01:18 AM |
| 13 | Well i just found out im being cheated on...I had an "ex" who was attractive but would not work a job. She also had a lot of personal problems. Even though all she had to do was sit at home and watch TV while I worked, I guess she got bored and just had to cheat. From reading this group, apparently these sorts of situations are pretty common. I believe that some attractive women do this for a particular reason: Because they can. Guys want so badly to date an attractive woman that they overlook all other considerations: How much will she h… | /r/MGTOW | 15/01/19 02:23 PM |
| 2 | Gillette sent me a present for my eighteenth birthday.Seriously, whoever couldn't see that this might offend some of their customers is living in a serious bubble. Not EVERYONE is living on the West Coast or New York City. Sometimes I feel like the upper class just give each other high-level jobs in companies, almost like modern-day royal titles. Talent? Who cares! I'd be curious if this ad was created by people connected to the upper class. If a regular person created the ad, maybe it would, you know, focus on why the product is better than simila… | /r/MGTOW | 15/01/19 08:57 AM |
| 3 | Gillette Boycott Imminent: #MeToo Gillette Ad "We Believe" Makes A Bid For The Virtue Signal Dollar–– Identity politics is getting stupider and stupider every day.Why do we see ads like this, but, when I was in college, so often everyone would see the attractive women date the guys with aggressive personalities? I'm not saying those guys were criminals, but they were often super-confident or arrogant. They'd bully or put down other people with no second thoughts. Those types of personality. Sometimes they were rude party animals. Yet, they often had no problem finding beautiful women to date. What is the point of such ads and other messages, if so many of… | /r/MGTOW | 15/01/19 08:46 AM |
| 3 | Gillette sent me a present for my eighteenth birthday.People are tired of being preached at by entertainers, businesses, and politicians. The philosophies they often preach, if you look under the surface, so often translate to: "Whatever the Rich People Want." So much has gotten so far removed from their original purpose. The average person is at the root of modern society. Entertainers, businesses, and politicians are all supposed to bring the people the things that they need and/or want. Somewhere along the line, that got turned upside-down. Now,… | /r/MGTOW | 15/01/19 08:04 AM |
| 1 | Gillette sent me a present for my eighteenth birthday.I've been using their shaving products for years and do not plan to purchase any more ever again. Regarding products from their parent company, in many cases, I believe that I can get around buying their products by buying the store imitation brand instead. | /r/MGTOW | 15/01/19 06:37 AM |
| 3 | Some people at /r/TheRedPill are clearly retardated, look at what they brains are laying about us to justify their debility: MGTOW are weak, embrace hypergamy, keep lifting, read books, have a strong frame, keep chasing pussy! LOLI believe that the only thing that these red-pill people suggest that would help me much with attracting women would be lifting weights. However, I have lifted weights in the past, and I am not one of these people whose muscles improve quickly with lifting weights. It would take a lot of time for me to get limited improvements. I'd basically have to give up the things that I enjoy to make time for the lifting weights. None of that is going to increase my height or change my face. So, for me, her… | /r/MGTOW | 14/01/19 06:14 PM |
| 2 | I'm done with womenI tried a lot of online dating websites many years ago, and it was always a ridiculously disappointing response rate. Most of the fun to be had from it is the thought that there is a POSSIBILITY that anyone you message could respond. So, I compare that to playing the lottery. Of course, most of the time, there is a very low response, at least for someone like me. I was probably around the 30% level of physical attractiveness in appearance to women back when I tried it. Ha ha, it was so worthless… | /r/MGTOW | 14/01/19 07:21 AM |
| 4 | Don’t know if this has already been posted, but it’s amazing how true this ringsPlease choose a path in life that keeps you away from trouble. Obviously this isn't a fair world, and some people start out way ahead of other people. You may not ever be a billionaire, but if you are willing to make honest effort, and be a good person, and actively try to figure out and follow a plan for your own success, you have a fair chance at doing okay. Making honest, positive efforts will give you an advantage, because a lot of people don't even know what they are doing. If you are MGTOW… | /r/MGTOW | 13/01/19 10:41 AM |
| 3 | The most perfect women I've ever seen: Makes more $ than all of us combined, stands up for a poor woman who got through an emotional divorce, and genuinely wants mgtows to get mentally better ❤On the one hand, they may want to find a guy, but on the other hand, it seems that a very high percentage of them only want a Chad. Thus, I don't understand why they should care if especially the guys whom they wouldn't date, go MGTOW. I kind of wonder if they view MGTOW as some sort of insult toward them, when it is not. (Kind of like they want MGTOW guys to still want to date, even if those guys only get unfairness and poor treatment from the dating world.) MGTOW is just guys finding the best … | /r/MGTOW | 13/01/19 10:06 AM |
| 5 | The most perfect women I've ever seen: Makes more $ than all of us combined, stands up for a poor woman who got through an emotional divorce, and genuinely wants mgtows to get mentally better ❤What legit points could they possibly make? That we should be forced to keep trying to have serious romantic relationships, even if past experiences have spoiled it for us, and even if we can't get into the idea of that anymore? I actually wouldn't even be being fair to a woman if I forced myself to date, because I wouldn't be able to have that happy effort about dating that I used to have, before it got spoiled for me by how I was treated by the dating system for so many years. Not just that, b… | /r/MGTOW | 13/01/19 09:43 AM |
| 5 | The most perfect women I've ever seen: Makes more $ than all of us combined, stands up for a poor woman who got through an emotional divorce, and genuinely wants mgtows to get mentally better ❤I get along great with lots of women, but I left the dating world behind because I tried it, and it just never worked out for me. I think that a lot of guys here started out as typical guys who wanted to get married and have a family. In my case, I tried for 15 years in good faith at dating; I built myself up, I had good things that I had succeeded at, and I tried to be the type of guy that the mainstream said should attract women. In return, most women that I was attracted to ignored me, and th… | /r/MGTOW | 13/01/19 09:24 AM |
| 10 | The most perfect women I've ever seen: Makes more $ than all of us combined, stands up for a poor woman who got through an emotional divorce, and genuinely wants mgtows to get mentally better ❤It appears to be the same old story. Someone visits here from outside, reads posts from guys who have had horrible experiences with romantic relationships, and then makes a judgment about MGTOW as a whole that is incorrect. In my opinion, this place takes about 1.5 months to understand, and that's if you are a non-Chad guy, and actually have experienced how a huge percentage of men get treated by dating and romantic relationships these days. I think that people show up here for a few hours -- ma… | /r/MGTOW | 13/01/19 08:52 AM |
| 1 | Got banned from r/datingoverthirty only because of this comment. I now learned they have a rule explicitly against anything that can be remotely interpreted as "redpill".sadafsadafs wrote: you have a wrong mindset, women shouldn't be forced to date someone they don't want, also there's many people who self-claim "nice guy" who are needy and desperate and that's a huge turn off If you look back at the original post, it doesn't read like anyone is being forced to do anything. The first person seems to be unhappy with dating, and the second person offers a suggestion that they think might help. I don't think making the suggestion is anything like forcing. It depend… | /r/MGTOW | 11/01/19 06:22 AM |
| 1 | Got banned from r/datingoverthirty only because of this comment. I now learned they have a rule explicitly against anything that can be remotely interpreted as "redpill".They are free to run their group how they want, but censoring MGTOW ideas will likely lower the quality of advice given in their group, greatly. Years ago, all I could find was mainstream dating advice, "Be confident and keep trying!" and so on, and it was never very useful. I'd rather be told that the dating world just isn't very interested in me, rather than have things sugar-coated which could cause me to waste so much time and energy. | /r/MGTOW | 11/01/19 05:30 AM |
| 2 | Sarah Silverman’s Progressive Talk Show Cancelled at HuluShe has always seemed to be really overrated. Did you know that she was a member of Saturday Night Live? I'm thinking that a lot of people don't even know that, because she was probably in the lowest 5% most accomplished cast members on that show in its history. She gets opportunity after opportunity, and her products are never as funny as they should be, for how much opportunity she has gotten, and how hard she seems to be trying. Oh, and this was a "progressive" talk show? Wow, what an origina… | /r/MGTOW | 10/01/19 05:24 AM |
| 2 | MCU has gone full retard.Put a fan on it and dry it out! | /r/MGTOW | 09/01/19 08:21 AM |
| 2 | MCU has gone full retard.How do we know that Frodo couldn't? Isn't Sauron just a big eyeball? Eyes are very sensitive. All Frodo would have to do is just touch Sauron's eye, and it would have starting blinkin' all over the place. | /r/MGTOW | 09/01/19 08:19 AM |
| 3 | my friend dumps her ex to ‘hoe around’ and doesn’t turn out how she hopesI've seen some of the behaviors that you've mentioned in people: A. What's the deal when someone starts ripping on, and talking down, to good people around them? Are they trying to prop themselves up by acting how they thing a "big deal" acts? But not even a "big deal" talks down to good people, unless they want those people to not like them. And even if they did, how does imitating someone make someone else a "big deal" too? B. I've seen people start throwing away a whole bunch of their friends… | /r/MGTOW | 04/01/19 09:05 AM |
| 13 | A True Story... I tested, she failed...I've actually had an "ex" do something like this to me -- but not to "test" me, but instead to try to get me to pay for something that she didn't have the money for. I wouldn't pay for it! :-) Here's another story that I think that I've told before: Back when I was still trying online dating, I lived in a big city and didn't need a car. So, I didn't have a car, even though I could afford one. I started talking to this woman from an online dating website on the phone. Things were going okay, and … | /r/MGTOW | 03/01/19 09:34 AM |
| 5 | How do you deal with family asking why you are (still) single?Just say that you enjoy the single life. If you've had some bad dating experiences, you can also reference those and say that it pretty much spoiled dating for you. | /r/MGTOW | 02/01/19 03:23 AM |
| 2 | SJW basically admits they are losing the online battle of ideas? wants censorship...It's difficult enough to get people to visit a lot of discussion groups without banning them or their ideas for no good reason. If I had to choose between reading this MGTOW group, and reading a mainstream dating advice group, I'd choose this MGTOW group. In fact, I basically already do that, because I don't visit mainstream dating advice groups now. Why? Because I tried mainstream dating advice, back when I dated, and it simply didn't work, nor did it explain what I saw going on in the dating e… | /r/MGTOW | 01/01/19 06:13 PM |
| 6 | FUCK Miranda Lambert & her new songI haven't heard this song, since I've mostly quit listening to the radio, or any new music. Keep in mind that we probably want to be able to have a wide range of free thought expressed in the entertainment world. Think about it: Would you want to have a bunch of country songs reminding us all to drink milk and eat vegetables? Also, I'm pretty sure that there have been multiple country songs giving the guy's side of divorce. They were from many years ago, like the 80's and/or 90's. I'm not sure i… | /r/MGTOW | 01/01/19 11:14 AM |
| 2 | Women can and will break up with you for some of the dumbest bullshit reasons out of nowhere.Every time I was dumped, there were either signs that the woman was moving on to another guy, or I wouldn't have a way of knowing if she were (such as long-distance). In some of those cases, I didn't even consider the possibility of that until years later -- after I started reading this group and seeing how common it is for a guy to get cheated on (before, I thought it was somewhat rare). Then I thought back on some of the mysterious dumpings that I went through -- that didn't make much sense at… | /r/MGTOW | 01/01/19 10:00 AM |
| 1 | Guess what happened to the creator of Sex and the City?You know, when I was young, I don't remember questioning the quality of the news like today. But I think I read somewhere how even a show that I thought was really good and fair back then was getting negative reviews from a media watch group back then. The thing is, I'm thinking very few people would hear about it if somebody did have something bad to say about news quality back then. Most people would have to stumble across just the article that mentioned it. You couldn't easily search somethin… | /r/MGTOW | 31/12/18 12:32 AM |
| 11 | Guess what happened to the creator of Sex and the City?If a conservative wants to watch a late-night talk show, what choice does he or she have? If a conservative wants to watch a major TV news network, he or she basically has only two choices, one of which isn't widely available on cable systems, and the other being watered-down. Many of the mainstream companies and traditions have taken political sides. When that happens, it's usually liberal. When a political side is taken in one of those situations, it's almost never conservative. Even though a … | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/18 04:13 PM |
| 3 | What was the final straw for you?There wasn't a single moment at which I suddenly changed. It was a series of experiences: For years, I never really had much success with dating, especially compared with how much I tried. I'd try over and over again, for just a date or a short-term relationship, and it always seemed to be so easy for the women to drop me, for all my efforts. Then I finally got a serious romantic relationship. It was great at first, like everything was finally going the way that it was supposed to go. Then I slo… | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/18 10:36 AM |
| 2 | What was the final straw for you?Cosmetic surgery is ridiculously expensive, and I believe it is very limited. For example, look at some of the rich but ugly actors in Hollywood, who are said to have tried cosmetic surgery. It does not appear to have made that much difference for them. I think that a lot of guys have read the "be confident" stuff in dating books. It is sometimes practically painful to watch a non-Chad change his hair and try to be confident, thinking that he can be a Chad. Whom is he fooling? Generally, he is N… | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/18 09:36 AM |
| 2 | Is it normal to lose all your friends because they're getting in to relationships?datguypete wrote: What do you mean you never had a girlfriend ? How can you hate women if you never dated one? Where does it say anything about hating women in the original poster's original post? | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/18 08:26 AM |
| 2 | Serious question but how is it possible to achieve self validation in a society where so much of your value as a man is determined by women?So, it sounds like you understand what people are trying to tell you, but that your issue with it is that you've still got the negative emotions from the unfairness of the "system." Let me tell you a story. When I was in college, I was a hard worker and a good student. I was on the track to later success, but I didn't have success yet. I was actually quite poor financially, compared to other college students. I didn't have a car, for example. I wasn't the sort of guy that women found physically … | /r/MGTOW | 28/12/18 08:57 AM |
| 2 | Anyone hate themselves for their Blue Pill days?I wouldn't say that my dating memories are 100% bad. There's some good there too. Particularly with the most serious romantic relationship that I ever had, and particularly earlier on in that relationship, there were some fun times, and I'd be silly to pretend that wasn't the case. I also had dates with other women where it was truly fun, and there really isn't anything quite the same as thinking that one may have found the life partner that they had hoped for. Even when I tried online dating, m… | /r/MGTOW | 23/12/18 04:38 AM |
| 2 | I look back and remember spending all my money on a female hopping my cheque will be cleared.It's amazing when I look at the effect of a romantic relationship on my financial situation: Post-college but before first good job: This was probably my worst financial situation. I had a bunch of debt from my college years but no good job to start paying it down quickly yet. After getting first good job but before romantic relationship: I start really making progress in paying down debt. Was on track to getting credit cards completely paid off. Time spent in romantic relationship: Even though … | /r/MGTOW | 21/12/18 07:43 AM |
| 1 | Cuckoldry is slowly coming out in open from secrecy.Why even get married if there is not much difference from not being married? I don't understand these stories of married couples who are fine with cheating. | /r/MGTOW | 21/12/18 06:40 AM |
| 2 | I am a living proof that your theories are not necessarily true.To the original poster: Keep in mind that, just because something is mentioned by someone on this group, does not make it a part of MGTOW. Most descriptions of MGTOW that I have read are very simple: Typically, a MGTOW does not get married or have serious long-term romantic relationships. That's it. While you may find other ideas discussed on a MGTOW group, that doesn't mean that every MGTOW agrees with those ideas. In fact, a person may often be speaking only for THEMSELF. When talking about pa… | /r/MGTOW | 16/12/18 07:30 AM |
| 2 | TradCons made this image against us, but it is funnyI don't think whoever made that image understands very much about MGTOW. So......I started out wanting to get married, and I tried for many years. I worked to be successful, and basically did the things that society says that a person should do. Guess what? Most women didn't seem to care about any of that stuff. And when I found someone who was interested in me, it turned out that she had all kinds of problems that she was hiding, and basically was trying to rip me off. As MGTOW, I have a pretty… | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/18 06:05 AM |
| 3 | Remember the FIRE guy posting about his divorce on r/financialindependence? Yes, they are now banning divorce threads.You don't even need to create a new group -- guys just need to stop by this MGTOW group and ask for financial advice. I understand that certain groups have certain views about politeness, but are they not even going to let people discuss the positives and negatives of being married compared to being single? If that is truly the direction they are choosing, I feel like they are leaving out a huge part of what people need to consider when planning their lives (BOTH men and women, by the way). I me… | /r/MGTOW | 01/12/18 06:35 AM |
| 4 | 35 & no beta, no bucks, no babies - "I truly feel like a ghost. No one knows who I am or where I’ve been"I didn't read the article itself, but, from the original post, it sounds like the woman followed some bad advice. To anyone out there, one of the most useful things that you can be in your college years, and the rest of your twenties, is FOCUSED. Figure out what you want to do as soon as possible (take some real effort to do this because if you are going to stick with your plan, you want it to be the right plan for you). Then stick to that plan as much as possible, unless you have a VERY good re… | /r/MGTOW | 29/11/18 04:58 PM |
| 8 | Huffington Post Can’t Figure Out Why Audiences Aren’t Spending Money On Woke FilmsI don't think I will ever forget how most of the entertainment industry basically insulted half the American public. As if they could say whatever they wanted, but the people could certainly NEVER walk away from buying Hollywood products. Well, I used to be a big-time TV, DVD, and music guy. Not anymore. I barely spend any money on that stuff anymore. I watch almost no Hollywood-produced television. I barely listen to the radio. It was so disgusting seeing all of those entertainers talking down … | /r/MGTOW | 24/11/18 05:45 AM |
| 4 | Deadbedrooms takes aim at "asshole" MGTOW, RP communitiesHey, they are free to run their group however they see fit, but MGTOW-related advice was the only romantic-relationship advice that ever helped me much. I read the mainstream dating advice before -- it's always a bunch of thoughtful, positive, hopeful views. I mean, don't get me wrong, it would be NICE if the world worked the way that they describe. But I'd try the advice, and it just would never work, and would never explain the real world. I'd try to be nice, confident, and respectful, and wom… | /r/MGTOW | 24/11/18 03:15 AM |
| 1 | Your problem is with government, not just womenWhat about a monopoly, or monopoly-like, situation? | /r/MGTOW | 21/11/18 07:50 AM |
| 1 | Apparently Bill Maher is in hot water after "dissing" Stan Lee's memory. Make of it what you will.Bill Maher is a little bit better than a lot of the political entertainers on TV these days, because he has done a few projects that were interesting, and he has also gone against the mainstream media opinion on a few issues, I assume out of principle. He also comes across as more intelligent than most of the other political entertainers on mainstream media. Beyond those few examples, however, he seems like a propaganda puppet, just like almost all the rest of the mainstream media political ente… | /r/MGTOW | 18/11/18 06:36 PM |
| 6 | MGTOW getting purged on youtubeIt should be reasonably available for guys, who need it, to find. I was very disappointed in dating by the time I found MGTOW, and it really helped me build a happy view on life. Even though I already got value out of MGTOW, there are probably many guys who need it, who haven't heard of it yet. Don't worry about taxes on single men, and so on. Think how ridiculously high they would have to tax a guy -- to make it more expensive than getting married and having a family these days. If they go too … | /r/MGTOW | 16/11/18 07:42 AM |
| 5 | Arianna Grande's new song is the Cock Carousel anthem. And it seems to be the #1 song.How would most people be able to tell anyway about their voices? It's not like most of us are trained singers. Plus, can't they just auto-tune people and cover up a lot of the lack of talent? It does seem like being a pop star now is less about the songs and voice, and more about having someone who can do big tours and dance around on stage. Speaking of performing, you bring up a good point about old-school music. But think about how those people performed. The entertainers would dress up in sui… | /r/MGTOW | 14/11/18 11:10 AM |
| 12 | Lashing Out at 30If anyone is mistreating you, whether or men or women, just minimize whatever you have to do with them, as much as possible. From what you wrote, if you just quit communicating with, and spending time with, and sharing social media with, such people, it doesn't sound like you would have many more of these issues. You don't have to make a big deal out of withdrawing from those situations either. Just be conveniently "busy" when they want to talk or spend time with you. Answer their phone calls le… | /r/MGTOW | 14/11/18 08:19 AM |
| 5 | Arianna Grande's new song is the Cock Carousel anthem. And it seems to be the #1 song.As someone who has listened to a LOT of popular music, across many decades, in my opinion, for as big of a "star" as Grande is supposed to be, if you look at the collection of music that she has released, it is not very good for someone who is supposed to be a "star" of her level. | /r/MGTOW | 14/11/18 07:57 AM |
| 1 | Life being semi-MGTOW is tremendously less stressful.To any guy out there who is in the dating game and trying so much to impress attractive women, and also being disappointed with not being successful, here's a couple of thought experiments: Why are you the one who has to impress OTHERS, but it's not the other way around? Why don't other people have to make special effort to try to impress YOU? The only reason that it has to be this way is because people accept that other people are somehow of higher social value than themselves, and that therefo… | /r/MGTOW | 14/11/18 06:15 AM |
| 6 | Girlfriend of 4 1/2 years told me she no longer loves meOne of my ex's had this thing where she just didn't want to work. It seemed like she would do just about anything to avoid work, excuses and delays. I think that she thought that I would get to the point of just accepting it, if she delayed long enough. When that didn't happen, I believe that she started cheating on me. Or maybe she cheated on me the whole time -- how would I know because I worked much of the time? My ex started doing the stuff where she would be out late in the evening, or talk… | /r/MGTOW | 13/11/18 09:20 AM |
| 1 | Red pilled top comment on a facebook article about male suicide rates/mental health awareness, noticing this sort of thing more and more on normie social media. I wonder how many MGTOW men are out there that just havent "officially" discovered it yet?I understand. It makes sense that serious health problems would motivate someone to do something about it. | /r/MGTOW | 13/11/18 04:05 AM |
| 1 | Red pilled top comment on a facebook article about male suicide rates/mental health awareness, noticing this sort of thing more and more on normie social media. I wonder how many MGTOW men are out there that just havent "officially" discovered it yet?I partly agree with you. I agree that people have self-control and personal responsibility. However, I also believe that people have limits. I don't agree that anyone could be the best in the world at anything, if they only tried hard enough. Limits can be physical, mental, genetic, environmental, and so on. Sometimes people have no choice but to make their weight other than top priority, at certain times in their life. It sounds like both you and I have been both overweight and thin. When you s… | /r/MGTOW | 13/11/18 03:46 AM |
| 5 | Red pilled top comment on a facebook article about male suicide rates/mental health awareness, noticing this sort of thing more and more on normie social media. I wonder how many MGTOW men are out there that just havent "officially" discovered it yet?If you are not an overweight person, it's easy to say that the overweight person should not allow themselves to be overweight. But I'm pretty sure that it's easier for some people to manage weight than other people. Think of an alcoholic. I've never had a problem with drinking. On average, I maybe have alcohol one night per month. I never have a strong desire to start drinking every day. But I know this must not be the way it is for an alcoholic, because if it were that easy for them, I don't th… | /r/MGTOW | 12/11/18 08:07 PM |
| 10 | Red pilled top comment on a facebook article about male suicide rates/mental health awareness, noticing this sort of thing more and more on normie social media. I wonder how many MGTOW men are out there that just havent "officially" discovered it yet?HellaStorm wrote: What is this 1955? What does the original post have to do with 1955? | /r/MGTOW | 12/11/18 01:45 PM |
| 3 | Here you go boys some pure high octane TRUTH. I’ve so many articles WITH NO COMMENT SECTION spewing bullshit when the truth is dating apps have given women all the power, which they abuse to only mate with the top 20%, then they cuck all the other men divorce rape them and leave them out to rotAh yes, the old "no comment section." Remember how common comment sections used to be? They often were the best part of an article. You'd read some nonsense by someone pretending to be a journalist, and the comments would completely counterargue the article until it was a joke. Sometimes you'd actually learn valuable new information from the comments, unlike the article. Maybe the biggest joke of all is when they started removing comments sections but couldn't admit why: They couldn't compete wi… | /r/MGTOW | 12/11/18 06:49 AM |
| 6 | Simp: "What probably bothers you is that you feel like leftovers, when womem eventually come back around to you. But guess what, that’s life. They also feel like leftovers when they sleep with men who misguided them into thinking they are interested in more than their holes."In my case, the desire to keep trying to date is basically all gone. It's been gone for a while. I just got tired of being ignored and/or disappointed for years. So, I learned to find happiness elsewhere. When I was in my twenties, women had so many opportunities to get me to date and possibly marry them. Because none of that ever turned out well, and a lot of the time I was ignored and treated like I didn't have any value in the dating world, I moved on and created a new life. For me to go back… | /r/MGTOW | 12/11/18 06:25 AM |
| 1 | MGTOW is ingeniousI think that MGTOW is a model for any kind of future political or social change. Make it about the idea, and not leaders or other people. Make it about the individual, instead of whether the group starts winning at things. Then it doesn't matter if you win an election for example, because the individuals will just keep doing their own thing that supports what they want. Let's say that a political side supports something that you disagree with, but your side can't get elected. But you see busines… | /r/MGTOW | 12/11/18 05:59 AM |
| 1 | (Sort of Off-Topic) What Do You Picture Happening in the U.S. Financially?I'm aware of the idea that you are talking about regarding banking and debt, and I'd like to see it reformed. So that a balanced budget is possible and means something. I don't know why people are happy getting government benefits expanded if it's being paid for by some unnamed people from the future -- maybe middle-class people, maybe NO ONE, maybe paid for by hyper-inflation someday, probably NOT the extremely rich (at least not all of it). They think they are somehow addressing income/wealth … | /r/MGTOW | 11/11/18 06:54 PM |
| 7 | Shocked Feminist Writes an Entire Article About Why The MGTOW Subreddit Encourages CelibacyIf they censor MGTOW, they'll just be giving a gift of website visitors to their competition. | /r/MGTOW | 10/11/18 03:24 PM |
| 21 | So this girl contacted me again after 6 years...Mainstream society lies to guys about how dating works, I think. It's all about be yourself, and be really nice, and do your very best, and there will be someone perfect for everyone. Guys don't know anything better than to trust mainstream advice. After all, mainstream advice is supposed to be time-tested and proven -- that's why it's mainstream advice. Then they do what they are told to do by the mainstream advice, and so often, it just doesn't work. If you ignore what the mainstream advice sa… | /r/MGTOW | 09/11/18 07:38 AM |
| 0 | Parent Company of Tinder's Stock Price Drops 20% in One DayIf you really try, and make yourself as perfect as women could ever see you, you can probably still date attractive women, even if you don't become a Chad. I'm not a Chad at all, and even I was able to have a serious romantic relationship with an attractive woman. I didn't know this at first, but it turned out later that she had a lot of personal problems, and I think that she was faking being attracted to me in order to be able to move in with me and share my apartment. So, you see how that wor… | /r/MGTOW | 09/11/18 02:02 AM |
| 39 | Parent Company of Tinder's Stock Price Drops 20% in One DayI tried online dating going way back to the late 1990's. Back then, I thought it would be some great way to make it a whole lot easier for people to find the right partner for them. Ha ha ha, no, NOOOOO, it wasn't! It seems like most guys get hardly any positive results from online dating. And now that online dating has been around for a while, there is an idea, that some people have, that online dating has even contributed a lot toward ruining dating in general, and marriage as well -- because … | /r/MGTOW | 08/11/18 05:24 PM |
| 5 | I was wrong about MGTOWIt's even better if you have a pretty good job and go MGTOW. I'm nowhere near retirement age, and I've already seen A LOT of the world. I just have a small number of further travel goals and then I'll settle into mostly just living cheaply. I should be able to retire early in about ten years, even having traveled, but I'll probably work until my earliest "regular" retirement age, just so I have the money for a really easy retirement. It was kind of sad when I learned in my twenties and thirties … | /r/MGTOW | 07/11/18 05:10 PM |
| 8 | All Asian American Men should go MGTOWIf it were actually about spreading knowledge, why wouldn't they keep expanding their universities until anyone who is willing to pay and can pass the classes can go, until supply equals demand. Is protecting some image more important to them than spreading knowledge to as many people as possible? Why is this not brought up all the time? | /r/MGTOW | 05/11/18 07:24 AM |
| 2 | I finally get you guys. I’m one of you. The thought of entertaining another thot DISGUSTS ME. I own a home, state of the art sound system, a 2016 vehicle, the best furniture normal money can buy, I have a housekeep...and I watch men work FOR ME on the struggle with their wives. THANK YOU ALL.In response to your comment: A. Are you aware that you can be MGTOW and still date? The one main accepted rule is just no marriage and no serious romantic relationships. So, if you do not disagree with that, you are actually not against MGTOW. B. A guy can improve his appearance, but I believe that everyone has an upper "ceiling" that is the best they can reasonably do. By reasonably, I mean that it is not realistic for a lot of guys that they will make ten million dollars and spend $100,000 on … | /r/MGTOW | 04/11/18 07:09 PM |
| 15 | A bit off topic, but anyone else from US getting texts daily to get out and vote Democrat?I've gotten texts, emails. No matter how many times that I've told them that I don't want any more messages, they just keep sending them. The biggest issue to me is that I don't find their party believable at all anymore. They can say whatever they want, but I don't believe that they mean to do anything good for me, that isn't actually about helping one of their rich friends even more. I can't imagine ever voting for someone running as a Democrat ever again. | /r/MGTOW | 04/11/18 03:24 AM |
| 12 | Video games are the reason so many men arent getting laid todayI have to say that I think the quote in the original post is way, way far off. For one thing, there were video games in the EIGHTIES! And computers too! I remember back in college. The attractive women dated the guys with the same types of physical appearances. Having a good personality wouldn't hurt, but you'd have women chasing around guys with NOTHING special about their personalities, or even nasty people. On the other side, a guy could try all he wanted being smart, funny, and nice, the att… | /r/MGTOW | 04/11/18 02:59 AM |
| 0 | I'm surprised how much nice guys/incels are being bulliedWhere are you seeing such a thing? I don't think that I have ever seen such a statement anywhere on reddit. | /r/MGTOW | 01/11/18 02:31 AM |
| 2 | [UPDATE - SHE RESPONDED!] - Responding to a democrat looking for my support in the upcoming electionKekCakes wrote: LMAO you were excited about her response that's basically a robotic copypasta ignoring your ... trolling. BUT SHES A CONFIRMED FEMALE heavy breathing. This is a perfect embodiment of this sub. I'm screening this. It's ... art. If you want to debate this group, you should learn what the group is actually about first. Otherwise, you don't persuade anyone because people will just read what you wrote and believe that you don't understand the group. It appears that you think the group… | /r/MGTOW | 30/10/18 12:10 AM |
| 6 | [UPDATE - SHE RESPONDED!] - Responding to a democrat looking for my support in the upcoming electionI think that I have seen people calling out inaccurate news on the Trump group before. What you have to understand is that that is not a group for general political debate. It is FOR Trump fans to be Trump fans. Just like this MGTOW group doesn't really exist to question and debate MGTOW. There is a general politics discussion group on reddit. In theory, that would be the place for you to debate all sides of politics. However, I quit going there because it acts like a mainstream Democratic Party… | /r/MGTOW | 29/10/18 11:51 PM |
| 2 | My friend's halloween party made me want to cut all contact with people my age.I thought your post was interesting, and the other poster also is free to disagree with it. I thought you were making an honest comment on today's society. If we said that everyone complaining about modern society is whining, so everyone should just be quiet, then we'd be deleting a lot of the posts on this group, and probably reddit too. But I believe that there IS value to expressing opinions. What is "complaining" or "whining" to one person, is often "speaking up" or "standing up for oneself"… | /r/MGTOW | 28/10/18 06:44 PM |
| 4 | My friend's halloween party made me want to cut all contact with people my age.Next time you take a big city taxi, ask the driver what it's like to be a big city taxi driver on Friday and Saturday nights. You'll probably get stories of young adults getting WAY more drunk than they should ever allow themselves to get, especially for away from home. You'll probably hear about people throwing up in the taxi, and possibly even people so drunk that the driver is having a difficult time figuring out where to take them home to. Let's face it: people are spoiled these days. We've … | /r/MGTOW | 28/10/18 06:08 PM |
| 12 | Another victim of the wall, dragged kicking and screaming past the pount of no return.How often do they have articles about guys who don't get to have a family because they discovered that, unlike the mainstream would have you believe, there is not somebody for everybody, and that they would be unlikely to find their dream woman? Nobody cares if these guys got to have a family. They get called losers instead. I think this lady got misled. She probably shouldn't have waited any later than 35. Also, that's a lot of money to spend on such a disappointing experience. | /r/MGTOW | 28/10/18 05:05 PM |
| 2 | I’ll just leave this here. 🙊Maybe the answer should be that everyone in dating should be allowed to wear costumes of "good-looking people." For men, it could include stilts. I could be a seven-foot-tall giant and be popular with all the ladies! | /r/MGTOW | 28/10/18 05:15 AM |
| 2 | Responding to a democrat looking for my support in the upcoming electionWhat are you specifically referring to, where you talk about someone stealing money, freedom, and opportunity from millions of people? | /r/MGTOW | 27/10/18 04:30 AM |
| 3 | Responding to a democrat looking for my support in the upcoming electionI think maybe what you are getting at is the Democrats being more pro-union. So, short-term, I'd say that under mainstream politicians, you get a little bit more, if you are a worker (particularly a union worker), if you go Democrat. But the bad trade situation and outsourcing occurred under both mainstream Republicans and mainstream Democrats. In the long-term, the union probably isn't going to be able to help much if it is begging just to keep ANY jobs at all in the U.S. (unless maybe you have… | /r/MGTOW | 27/10/18 03:53 AM |
| 2 | The wikipedia page on gender quality is heavily biased towards women problems.Whatever you agree with, I think you will find that Wikipedia tends to be a reflection of what are considered "mainstream" views -- basically along the lines with the types of information that you'd see in the major newspapers, or the major cable news networks. You can argue that what are considered mainstream views is strongly influenced by the wealthy, as your typical next-door neighbor does not control what appears on a major cable news network. I think that Wikipedia's strong reflection of t… | /r/MGTOW | 25/10/18 06:21 AM |
| 4 | In case you decide to save money and live with housemates.Why not get 1000 MGTOW together, everyone pool their money, and buy a HUGE chunk of land in the middle of nowhere, like Alaska or Montana. With a lake and forest, for outdoor activities, and lots of hiking trails. You could keep adding just about everything for entertainment: a movie theater, golfing, professional kitchen, farming, a library. You could have all kinds of options for a guy that wants to move there. Like more of a party section for more social people, or a more quiet area up in the… | /r/MGTOW | 25/10/18 05:05 AM |
| 4 | I hate these arrogant cucks from r/AskmenI've never visited that group, because I've never had a reason to, but, as you kind of pointed out, none of those arguments against MGTOW are any good. Regarding "too lazy to improve yourself," I probably have more going for me than a lot of the people who rip on MGTOW. But it's not "the right things," the things that attract a lot of the women. Guys can't reasonably improve things like height for example (I'm aware of the surgery), and cosmetic surgery for a face only makes so much difference. … | /r/MGTOW | 22/10/18 03:46 AM |
| 4 | Just dropped out of Med School !To anyone out there at the very start of their career, as in choosing what you want to get trained to do as a career, be sure to really, REALLY do some research on your decision. Be sure not to fall into the trap of "Oh I once heard that this job makes good money," and then making the decision with almost no real research. It's not all about average salary. It's also about the personality of the worker. Do you dislike working by yourself most of the time? Would you prefer that? Would you rather … | /r/MGTOW | 20/10/18 11:37 AM |
| 14 | US birth rate hits record low: CDC reveals drops in EVERY region - It will continue to drop as more men wake up, just ask JapanI think this is happening for different reasons for different guys, such as economics, bad divorces, and disappointment with dating. For me, I'm not a "Chad," and I've found that there doesn't seem to be much respect for anything else good about a guy, if he is not a "Chad." Especially if the woman is attractive, basically without exception, she'll seem to be looking for a Chad and nothing else. For me, I didn't go through all the challenges of life, and working my way up the ladder of success, … | /r/MGTOW | 20/10/18 10:38 AM |
| 6 | I just broke up with my girlfriend of 1 yearImagine being me. I'm much older than you. I've been single for over ten years -- I haven't even had one date during that time. In college, I did not have a single date. But I was quite successful at LEARNING during my college years, which is the point of it. And now I am really getting into a really good zone both financially and with respect to many other parts of life. Of course, women weren't very attracted to me when I was in college, so it was easy for me to be single. Actually, it was NOT… | /r/MGTOW | 19/10/18 03:21 AM |
| 2 | Anyone Know Who Is on the Board of the Company that Runs the Big Dating Websites?That's Match Group though, right? Isn't that controlled by IAC? Who is on IAC's Board? | /r/MGTOW | 17/10/18 02:08 PM |
| 1 | Nice guys do finish last. Why even date in 2018?Of all the times that I was ever "dumped" by women, I was never given a reason for being dumped that was anything that would justify it. Of course, the real reason was that I wasn't attractive enough to them. We all know that if a man or woman is considered REALLY attractive, they can be messed up in all sorts of other ways but will be excused for those issues. On the other hand, if a guy is not considered attractive, he can be funny, nice, kind, intelligent, responsible, and so on, and good luc… | /r/MGTOW | 17/10/18 04:25 AM |
| 3 | I'm not the same ever since I broke up with my slut ex. I wish I never met her.Here's a "thought experiment" for you: Try to imagine her, but replace what she looks like with a woman whom you are not attracted to at all. Would you still feel the same way about not being with her anymore? If not, then I think what you are feeling is just the result of biological attraction. If I think about the most serious romantic relationship that I ever had, in my mind, I still find my ex's appearance to be attractive. But I know that it would never, never be a good decision to communic… | /r/MGTOW | 16/10/18 04:16 PM |
| 2 | I'm really surprised how many people won't stop after the 1st divorceIt's not just divorce either. We see other patterns across dating and romantic relationships. Lots of guys on here experienced dating pretty much like I did, and I thought that my experience was rare. | /r/MGTOW | 15/10/18 04:23 AM |
| 1 | Finally giving upI've known many women who are good people, but the dating world is TOXIC. As for ghosting, I once had a woman online friend for about 8 months. I was hoping to meet her eventually. She ghosted me. Imagine emailing and chatting with someone online almost every day for about 8 months, and they stopped all communication with no explanation. The arrogance of those women that made fun of you at those clubs is enough to send any guy MGTOW. Let's face it -- women who act like that are spoiled. They tra… | /r/MGTOW | 15/10/18 03:47 AM |
| 5 | Another TRADCUCK attacked the manosphere (MGTOWs especially.) Lowder with Crowder finally got the balls back from his wife with the instructions to attack us. LMAO. TFM already eviscerated his nonsense.I think there was a conservative commentator who went after MGTOW a few months ago. I think that a libertarian would at least respect MGTOW as a person's own choice. Traditional pro-family conservatives are going to tend to NOT be for MGTOW, I think. Some of it is probably political. As in, these people want conservatives to win elections, and they probably view MGTOW as something that would offend women voters (even though someone choosing to be single shouldn't actually offend anyone). They pr… | /r/MGTOW | 14/10/18 01:34 PM |
| 5 | Simp: "On this front, its very hard to dissuade a hurt divorced man from venturing into the toxic pit of MGTOWism."It seems like they continue to make the same old mistake of assuming that every guy's upset negative post on here speaks for all of us, or even represents MGTOW philosophy. All MGTOW is actually saying is that, for at least some of us guys, we might be better off staying single. That's already a choice that people get to make for themselves. What are they trying to say? That we should HAVE to marry if we don't want to? Actually, what they are probably saying is that we all SHOULD want to get mar… | /r/MGTOW | 13/10/18 07:04 AM |
| 6 | Hey fellow Migtows I'm 5'2 and Black ...So whats up with women and Heightism. Also need help with job adviceMy advice for you is: Regarding height, but this goes for other things as well, if society gives you an unfair "game" to play, just choose not to play it. For the longest time, I worked and achieved some success, but it never made much difference in attracting women, because it wasn't the sort of stuff they seem to look for. Even at my best, I am going to have a certain "ceiling" as far as what women see in me. For me, the whole thing seems unfair and not worth the time, for the way I would get … | /r/MGTOW | 11/10/18 07:45 AM |
| 1 | Once Again It’s Time For Uncle Nate’s MGTOW Memories!I'm pretty sure that it's way more difficult for some people to keep weight off, than for other people to. I've seen some really heavy people, and I don't think I could get that big if I were trying to. I've also noticed that I could pretty much eat as poor of a diet as I wanted, when I was younger, and have no trouble staying thin. So there's probably a strong biological factor that a person does not control. I have gained and lost enough weight over the years to understand that it can be a com… | /r/MGTOW | 11/10/18 06:49 AM |
| 1 | Asking someone on a date is harassment now? I'm done with this.MGTOW can date, just not serious long-term relationships. | /r/MGTOW | 10/10/18 06:54 AM |
| 2 | Asking someone on a date is harassment now? I'm done with this.It's amazing what being open-minded enough to consider a non-traditional life can do for one's finances. I dated rarely, and haven't dated at all in about 10 years. I was never married. I've traveled all over the world and still have enough money saved that I could probably retire early if I wanted to go without health insurance and live in a small house. In ten more years, I could probably retire early with a more normal (but still cheap) lifestyle. But I'll probably work until normal (but stil… | /r/MGTOW | 10/10/18 06:50 AM |
| 1 | Asking someone on a date is harassment now? I'm done with this.It would be interesting to hear both sides, but you'd be surprised how often someone does nothing wrong, and they get some form of harassment in return. If you've never experienced that personally, it's difficult to believe, but it does happen. If you're not with a particular social group, you can be completely unaware that other people (who act friendly to your face) may be otherwise working against you, and even encouraging other people (who don't even know you) to be unfriendly toward you. I'… | /r/MGTOW | 10/10/18 06:34 AM |
| 1 | Asking someone on a date is harassment now? I'm done with this.Wow. If this becomes the pattern, this is going to be the beginning of the end of dating, at least as a mainstream activity. When I was in college, that was when a lot of other people were doing their dating. They were all surrounded by a bunch of other single people. So I have to imagine that college is one of the main dating environments. As the original poster said, if you want to go on a date, you have to ask if they want to, right? And I think that a lot of women still think that it's the g… | /r/MGTOW | 10/10/18 05:30 AM |
| 27 | "Are Millennials 'killing' relationships, too? Young people are embracing single life, Tinder finds"Let's not forget the economics of having a family for poor and working-class people, even middle-class people. It's ridiculously expensive to have a family, and to live the traditional "American Dream" type of quality of life these days. As gets brought up on this group regularly, a guy can work hard and spend all that money to try to provide the American Dream for his family, yet the divorce can still happen. I don't think anyone should stay married who doesn't want to be, so I don't think that… | /r/MGTOW | 09/10/18 04:15 PM |
| 2 | Romantic music as a mgtowYou'd be skipping a lot of classic good music if you quit listening to anything romantic-related. Think about it like you would about some actress that you think is super-beautiful. Just because you are MGTOW doesn't mean that you can't enjoy entertainment that you previously enjoyed. The odds are that you weren't going to be dating such an actress anyway. | /r/MGTOW | 08/10/18 02:36 PM |
| 5 | Simp: "You need to stop chasing women and work on yourself. Do your own thing and women will enter your life. But you can't just focus on your hobbies and expect women to approach you."I never found mainstream dating advice to be very helpful. My opinion about it is that it's more about how to date in "how they wish the world would be," instead of how the world actually is. The problem is, these days, if they told things how they are, they would be recommending MGTOW for a lot of guys -- and it would no longer be a dating book for them! | /r/MGTOW | 08/10/18 09:52 AM |
| 11 | Just found a guy in my GF's bed. AWALTThis is just my opinion, so take it for what you think it's worth: If she were the right woman for you, she wouldn't have cheated on you. It's as simple as that. Of all the romantic relationships I had that ever got serious at all, there was exactly ONE where I did not want the relationship to end when it did. But you know what? If it had been right, it simply wouldn't have ended. That particular woman was no more "right" for me than the many women who never dated me. I've been single for about … | /r/MGTOW | 08/10/18 09:00 AM |
| 1 | Seeing how many pretty boys are getting#metooed, Mr Timberlake, I suggest you drop the white knight act and admit to all the teen girls you've bought and banged over the years. You're next buddy.If he wants to stand up for women, why doesn't he retire from the entertainment business, which has one of the worst reputations for treatment of women? I have to believe that he has enough money to retire? So what's stopping him from retiring? Also, what's the deal with how skinny he is? He looks like most people (men AND women) would be bigger than him. | /r/MGTOW | 08/10/18 07:46 AM |
| 1 | College girl gives ‘exit surveys’ to her exes after being ghostedI had a woman decide to quit dating me once, and I asked her why, for my benefit. She was nice enough to tell me. That being said, the reasons she gave actually didn't seem like big deals to me. So maybe that's the lesson. It reinforced that she and I just weren't good matches for each other. So much so that the stuff that she didn't like about me, was rather difficult for me to understand. | /r/MGTOW | 05/10/18 08:26 AM |
| 13 | You men are living in a 1950's Leave It To Beaver rerun.Are you aware that there are different people writing the posts that are this group? Therefore, not every post is going to have the same views. | /r/MGTOW | 04/10/18 09:32 AM |
| 1 | I know that spending time in the redpill/MGTOW bubble has changed my perspective, but it seems really bizarre and sort of unbelievable to me that there are still guys chasing women out there.DontBanMeBaby wrote: Thank you for the long an in-depth response. I appreciate it. I acknowledge there are problems but I don't like to affiliate with the group because of the terrible reputation a certain people on here have created. Simply by looking at the demographics of Reddit, and this subreddit, in particular, most users aren't like you. There are certainly problems that need to be solved and injustices in the family court systems that need to be addressed but the way the anger manifests … | /r/MGTOW | 04/10/18 09:03 AM |
| 2 | TBH: Height is why I'm Mgtow.If all a guy cared about was getting married, I believe that most guys could, no matter how the guy looks. He would just have to drop all of his preferences for a partner until it happened. In my case, by your definition, I would not be allowed to be a MGTOW. While I have had a few romantic relationships, most of the time, the women that I wanted to date were not interested in me. But I find the same types of women attractive that a lot of other guys do -- and why should they have chosen me over… | /r/MGTOW | 04/10/18 07:06 AM |
| 26 | I know that spending time in the redpill/MGTOW bubble has changed my perspective, but it seems really bizarre and sort of unbelievable to me that there are still guys chasing women out there.DontBanMeBaby wrote: The vast majority of guys eventually grow up and realise nobody, including women, are out to get you and that we both have our own struggles. MGTOW are the minority for a good reason. Plus MGTOW is kinda like the radical feminists for men, both are completely delusional. I don't think you took the time to actually learn what MGTOW is. All it is, by probably the most basic, and probably the most agreed-upon, definition, is a guy choosing not to get married or have serious lon… | /r/MGTOW | 03/10/18 10:40 AM |
| 2 | I did it....I deleted Facebook.America Online in the late 1990s did things better, I think, than many companies today. If I remember correctly, you just had your username -- people didn't share their full name with the world unless they wanted to. AOL was probably smaller than a lot of those types of companies today, but it seemed to be more fun. I don't recall ever hearing about widespread censorship due to political beliefs or honest comments about society. Also, I don't think AOL had any type of "friend" or "follower" syst… | /r/MGTOW | 03/10/18 08:27 AM |
| 8 | Like him or not, he is 100% right. "it's a very scary time for young men in America"If Trump's decisions on trade are bad, how come the U.S. has had greatly increasing income/wealth inequality over recent decades, which seems to coincide really well with these trade blocks and outsourcing? You may be right about certain specific small businesses because, if one owns a small business, particularly one which designs its own products, then outsources the manufacturing to greatly save on costs, you may be at a big disadvantage if a lot of your sales are based on competing internati… | /r/MGTOW | 03/10/18 07:40 AM |
| 11 | Molyneux is half way thereDoes a guy want a woman to marry him because she wants to, or because that's the only way that society will let her have a good quality of life? If I were to get married, I would absolutely not want it to be because society pressured the woman to find a partner. I've had the experience of someone pretending to be attracted to me, and then I figured out later that she just needed a guy to live with, because she was having trouble supporting herself financially. It is a horrible feeling to discove… | /r/MGTOW | 02/10/18 07:53 AM |
| 13 | Divorce Rates are Going Down – Because No One is Getting MarriedThe point of MGTOW is NOT because it's different from the mainstream. It's because a guy believes, for whatever reason (and different guys have different reasons), that he will be in a better situation if he walks away from having serious romantic relationships. If enough guys decide to have that philosophy, you could have MGTOW become mainstream and typical. The idea is still the same. That doesn't stop it from being MGTOW. Remember, it's not about trying to be different. It's about choosing th… | /r/MGTOW | 30/09/18 05:48 PM |
| 3 | Don't celebrate Kavanaugh's confirmation to the fullest.Well, here's my analysis: The Democratic Party drove me so, so far away from them (in the 2016 election season) that I don't believe that I will ever vote for them again. I'm not a fan of the mainstream Republican Party, but, if there is no other choice that has a chance to win (like a major third-party candidate), then my plan is to vote Republican anyway, because it has more effect in preventing Democrats from winning. Trump is a special situation. I don't really see him as a mainstream Republ… | /r/MGTOW | 30/09/18 06:12 AM |
| 1 | Attempting to enter r/TheRedPill prompts a screen suggesting the user visit the 'Stony Brook University's Center for the Study of Men and Masculinities' website for information on positive masculinity... but look who's on the board of directorsHere's the thing that the mainstream doesn't understand about MGTOW and related ideas: A lot of the ideas, at their roots, are simply saying, "like it or not, this appears to be how the dating/romantic-relationship world works." Sometimes the world can be a bit ugly and so can human behavior. An example of this is that so many people hardly go around looking for the best personality when dating. I assume that what is considered "proper masculinity" by these people is what the mainstream pushes. … | /r/MGTOW | 29/09/18 02:48 PM |
| 2 | Really hate seeing what is happeningI used to be a progressive, and some people in that community are very big on protests. You really don't see that as much from conservatives, except maybe somewhat from pro-life people. So I think there is something to it being more of a tradition of the left, at least in recent years. I have read various opinions on the value of public protests. While I haven't checked into the support that each of the following opinions have, here is what they said: Some people claim that the bigger protests t… | /r/MGTOW | 28/09/18 09:33 AM |
| 3 | You guys know this sub is next right?Who asks the reddit organization (not other reddit users, but the reddit ORGANIZATION) for information on HOW TO BE A MAN????? That's like going to the McDonalds or Wal-mart companies and asking them to teach you about the meaning of life. | /r/MGTOW | 28/09/18 05:29 AM |
| 2 | You guys know this sub is next right?If they ban this MGTOW group, then the future of reddit appears to be heading toward a G-rated zombieland where there would only be a tiny range of political or social debate allowed. And DULL, like eating plain mashed potatoes, with nothing on it, FOREVER and EVER. Zombie people will think they are happy, but really they are just sleepy and calm, because nothing of note would ever be talked about or said on such a future reddit that could ever offend anyone in the slightest -- or rather anyone … | /r/MGTOW | 28/09/18 05:21 AM |
| 5 | You guys know this sub is next right?If this group is banned, I also plan on completely leaving reddit. I haven't decided for sure which competition-to-reddit-website I will move to, but if I find a good new place, I plan to not just post there, but DONATE to wherever that is. I would never donate to reddit because I've heard way too many negative things about it (on reddit, believe it or not!) Who would ever go back to reddit, if they leave for a reason like that? | /r/MGTOW | 28/09/18 05:01 AM |
| 4 | Heads up on TRPUmm, isn't that going to be like giving a big gift of new subscribers to reddit's competition? | /r/MGTOW | 28/09/18 04:42 AM |
| 2 | I think I need to let go of PoliticsOh gosh, that's one of the worst places on reddit, in my opinion. It's been a long time since I've been there. I assume it's still the same. Try saying anything negative about the mainstream Democratic Party. Be ready to get voted down amazingly quickly. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the people on there are paid political staff. I also wouldn't be surprised if there's automated manipulation of upvoting and/or downvoting. I have no proof, but just look at how it appears to a regular reddit … | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/18 04:29 AM |
| 1 | Don't you guys roll your eyes at the news nowadays?I find mainstream news to be really bad. If you go watch some good independent and/or alternative news for a while, I believe that you'll start to get a sense of what mainstream news actually is. Then, I find that, if one watches mainstream news, rather than valuing very much of what the news is actually saying, it tends to become an exercise in what propaganda techniques that they appear to be using. What have they chosen to focus on? Which side do they repeatedly take? What arguments do they m… | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/18 03:42 AM |
| 13 | Hope for MGTOWS that are lonely. create goals, stay busy, stick to them. make a 5 year plan. life WILL get awesome.I have been romantic-relationship-free for ten years now. When I was in my most serious romantic-relationship, the woman had some serious personal issues, was creating drama later in the relationship, wouldn't work, appeared to be cheating (or planning on it), and was basically expecting me to pay ALL of the household expenses. I was making more money than I had ever made before that point in my life, yet, if I remember correctly, I think I was actually gaining debt, instead of paying it down, w… | /r/MGTOW | 26/09/18 06:23 PM |
| 1 | Bar girls with no attention givenPeople stare at people who look at their phones? | /r/MGTOW | 26/09/18 07:19 AM |
| 2 | Thoughts wanted. My Ex just tried to get me back. Felt very strange, brought up a bunch of old painful feelings and reminds me of why I will never go backI had an "ex" try to return to me once. I did not respond. I heard later that she had gotten into some serious problems, just around the time that she had tried to communicate with me. I have no idea if this is the case with your "ex," but this story of mine is an example of what can happen. | /r/MGTOW | 25/09/18 05:42 PM |
| 4 | Banned from r/Breakups for mentioning MGTOW in a commentThat's just sad. I tried to date for like 15 years. I got one major romantic relationship, with a woman who had a bunch of problems that she was not very open about. I have a feeling that that was the only reason that she had to "settle" for me, even though I was actually doing a lot of good things for the relationship. Other than that, most of the time, women just ignored me. I tried to be the sort of guy that the mainstream says that women like. I tried to be honest, romantic, a comedian, and … | /r/MGTOW | 24/09/18 02:09 PM |
| 0 | So I went to a sporting event alone and ended up sitting near a bunch of womendelightfulspacepeach wrote: I thought this sub was about going your own way and not having anything to do with women but ya'll are still OBSESSED with women and what they might think about you. Someone accidentally bumps into you a few times in an incredibly crowded place and your first response is to consider that it might be some kind of "female trickery" to get to your wallet? Dude. Smacking someone with your bag is a terrible way to flirt. believe it or not, people you don't know personall… | /r/MGTOW | 24/09/18 07:20 AM |
| 10 | Getting women in the workforce was just a way to reduce the value/cost of labor.horrorpink wrote: You people are delusional lol Why do you think it is delusional? Have you ever studied economics? One of the most important early lessons you study in economics is The Law of Supply and Demand. That says that, if all else is equal, if you increase supply of something, the price of that thing will tend to decrease. One reason for this is that it's often no good (even expensive) for a seller to hold onto excess inventory in the hopes that it will sell later. So they lower the pri… | /r/MGTOW | 24/09/18 04:51 AM |
| 3 | What is the psychology behind a girl constantly rejecting a guy and then eventually marrying him?I think that your post also indirectly explains what creates most of each of the types of MGTOW. Also, I wonder if alcoholism would be common in the women, in their 40s and 50s. | /r/MGTOW | 23/09/18 05:54 PM |
| 7 | The growth of MGTOW and what it means?If this group ever gets shut down, people will just migrate to one of the alternative websites that get brought up on here from time to time. Reddit will be handing over those users to its competition, almost like a gift. Then the MGTOW group will probably continue to grow, wherever it relocates. I think that MGTOW is growing because there are a lot of guys out there who are unhappy with the romantic relationship world, for one reason or another. MGTOW provides them with answers, like why doesn'… | /r/MGTOW | 22/09/18 06:49 AM |
| 3 | The growth of MGTOW and what it means?I feel like the corporate Democrats just focus on trying any strategy that they think will help them win, so they can do whatever it is they want to do. Somehow, I don't feel like what they want to do is actually in line with what they say they want to do. Maybe it's because, when they have had the opportunity to fulfill what they said they were going to do, they don't actually do it. I now see them using strategies that, in the past, their supporters would have associated with wealthy Republica… | /r/MGTOW | 22/09/18 05:40 AM |
| 2 | Piers Morgan’s campaign for men is straight out of the MRA and incel playbooks (MGTOW mention)The main definition of MGTOW is only not to get married or have a serious romantic relationship. Otherwise, a MGTOW can date. He can certainly communicate with women friends and co-workers. So, is this lady supposed to be an expert about this stuff, enough to write an article, and doesn't even understand what MGTOW is? -- she could have figured this out with an hour of online research, although if she is an expert on this, she should have already known, don't you think? | /r/MGTOW | 21/09/18 12:43 AM |
| 2 | Guess she is tired of the cock carousel...Carefully choosing how, and on what products, you spend your money is one of the most powerful ways that people can bring about change in society. There are all sorts of political strategies that can be used to win elections, but -- no matter who wins elections -- you can still manage your spending how you choose. Not only can you refuse to support companies that offend you, but you can spend on their competition's products instead. These companies really do care when bad financial news come out… | /r/MGTOW | 20/09/18 07:11 AM |
| 2 | 80/20 is actually something like 97/3Remember that one person's whining is another person's speaking up for themselves. I agree with you that dating is what it is. Everyone has their preferences, and that is their right. But my issue with it is how it's never talked about (in the mainstream) how difficult it is for so many guys to date. Instead, dating is discussed as something wonderful that is for everyone -- that everyone gets to do. Years ago, there was no easy way to find out about this stuff, so a guy would think that he was … | /r/MGTOW | 20/09/18 04:35 AM |
| 3 | Middle-Aged Women with ProblemsTo answer your question, it's mostly romantic relationships that have much less importance to me now. However, certain things that I chased after because I thought that they might cause women to like me more -- those things I don't care so much about either. It's great to focus on the things that: (1) you can actually have; and (2) you actually like. So for example, I don't need an expensive car to show off, or expensive clothes. I dress as cheaply and comfortably as I can, and it reduces stress… | /r/MGTOW | 19/09/18 11:32 PM |
| 12 | Middle-Aged Women with ProblemsI went through a lot of sadness when I was younger. I was working hard, often had to deal with challenges that other people didn't have to, and really just had very simple, cheap levels of fun, nerdy stuff like favorite TV shows. So many other people my age seemed to be having so much more fun, without having to do much work. It was like it was all natural for them to have this fun social life, that seemed impossible for me to have. Plus, I didn't have much money back then. I didn't have a car u… | /r/MGTOW | 19/09/18 03:37 AM |
| 1 | Idk if there is a god, but if there is, he did not have our backs in this lifeMost people have problems, at one time or another, both men AND women. People may have very different sets of problems from each other, but most people will have significant problems, at one time or another. The challenges that you have in life are what make you wiser and better. Of course it's no fun going though a bad problem at the time, but it usually makes you a better person -- even if it only teaches you something. And some problems we never can fully fix, but we just have to live with th… | /r/MGTOW | 17/09/18 05:20 AM |
| 3 | 10 year High School reunionIt would be interesting if you could give us some more details. I have never been to any of my reunions, and I doubt that I will ever go to any. High school, and much of college, were the worst times of my life. By the time I was done with high school, I had been going through each day basically just focusing on my education while trying to avoid other people as much as possible. That's how miserable I was. I didn't stay in communication with anyone that I graduated from high school with. I thin… | /r/MGTOW | 16/09/18 03:58 PM |
| 3 | You have been automatically banned for participating in a redpill/incel subreddit.Whenever I read someone posting about being automatically banned from a group because of MGTOW, it is never a group that I would care about posting in. It comes across like they want to ban groups of people that they don't like, as a way of ripping on them, but they don't get enough normal situations to ban such people, so they have to do the auto-bans. It's like running a mile to catch up to someone on the sidewalk, just to be able to insult them. It does not come across well to people outside … | /r/MGTOW | 16/09/18 02:40 PM |
| 3 | No Sex in the City: What It's Like to Be Female and Foreign in JapanI assume your quotes are from the article in the original post, because I don't have much interest in reading the article itself. Wow, those quotes seem both inaccurate AND insulting to men. In reality, I have never heard of guys not wanting to date a woman because they were scared of how attractive she was. Yeah, some guys are shy, but not all guys are shy. Also, a shy guy is probably not going to ask ANY women out, regardless of how attractive they are (or not). Ugly guys will try to date beau… | /r/MGTOW | 16/09/18 03:21 AM |
| 2 | Feminist Emma Watson's personal carousel - showing female hypergamy in action.I've got a funny story for you about Hollywood and makeup. I was watching TV one day, and a reality show comes on after the show I was watching. Guess who is on the show, but a woman that I used to know from one of my past jobs! I went to the show's website to verify if that was her, and, sure enough, it was. But here's the thing: all the photos of her on the website showed her with some serious makeup and/or digital photo alteration and/or other such gimmicks. I could tell it was her, but she l… | /r/MGTOW | 14/09/18 03:09 PM |
| 32 | Over 50. Divorced after doing 20. Why are things "so f*cked up"? They're not.I never got married, and thus never had a divorce. But I really, really agree with you about the importance of the right attitude, brought about by MGTOW. What I mean by the right attitude is gaining self-respect and also realizing the huge upside of being single, while also noticing how disappointing the romantic relationship world often is. Before, when I was single and trying to find a serious romantic relationship, I remember how the experience was negative so often -- I just wasn't what wom… | /r/MGTOW | 14/09/18 05:39 AM |
| 1 | Nostalgic TV shows have me missing a more simple time between men and womenThe 2016 election is where my interest in Hollywood really went downhill. I remember there always being political and/or social commentary in Hollywood, and they are usually liberal, but what stood out to me was how they could not seem to acknowledge, at least not publicly, why Trump got elected. I think that Trump winning was very much a sign of lack of confidence in mainstream politicians, and also wanting to get back to a diverse economy, with manufacturing and decent working-class jobs. Inst… | /r/MGTOW | 14/09/18 04:51 AM |
| 4 | Warner Bros fire Henry Cavill after he said that he's afraid of approaching women for fear of being called a rapistMaybe a significant percentage of the public has been offended by Hollywood, and maybe Hollywood isn't capable of considering that as a possibility. | /r/MGTOW | 14/09/18 03:04 AM |
| 5 | Online dating as a guy in 2018I think that he is getting at what a waste of time that online dating is, which is a valid rationale for going MGTOW. You are correct that no one has to reply to anyone in online dating, but the big picture is that guys are misled by society that dating is fair and for everyone. And also society tends to ignore that it's mostly about what people look like. This gives guys false optimism and sets them up to be taken advantage of, and to waste time and energy, thinking that there is someone for ev… | /r/MGTOW | 14/09/18 02:56 AM |
| 11 | While everyone is wondering if their sub is getting banned. This Guy feels insulted that his is not on the list to be Banned. Lol!!Aren't there real groups on the list that have in fact been banned? | /r/MGTOW | 13/09/18 04:33 AM |
| 3 | Could post-wall women "repent"?Back when I was trying to date, I pictured enjoying my thirties, and maybe even some of my twenties, with a partner. There would have been the team effort of building a future, building a great life, and also traveling and doing the types of activities that people in their twenties and thirties do. I can never go back in time and have that. It seems reasonable that part of the reason that there are guys like me that never got to have that is that many of the women that we would have been interes… | /r/MGTOW | 10/09/18 03:11 PM |
| 4 | Serena Williams epic meltdown at the US Open is perfect display of female entitlement in the westWhy doesn't she just retire if it's going to stress her out that much? She's already had a career that any women's tennis player would be happy with. Maybe she has just reached that point in her career where she is going to start losing a lot. If that's the case, and if she doesn't want to do that, why not retire? | /r/MGTOW | 10/09/18 05:05 AM |
| 9 | “Oh shit, in yet another lazy attempt for easy attention with #MeToo, we’ve inadvertently caused men to not want to hit on us in fear of being claimed rape against them. That means I might have to do some actual work and approach men! Quick, how can I further place the blame on men?”Insulting guys in that way is just going to even further push guys toward MGTOW. Unless that's what she wanted, then I'm not sure what she was trying to accomplish with that comment. | /r/MGTOW | 10/09/18 03:39 AM |
| 3 | What's going on with the sub's Header Picture ?The moderators should have a contest from time to time for a new header picture. I'm thinking we'd get some creative and/or funny stuff. It would be something fun to add to the group. | /r/MGTOW | 08/09/18 06:20 AM |
| 1 | What's going on with the sub's Header Picture ?The moderators should have a contest from time to time for a new header picture. I'm thinking we'd get some creative and/or funny stuff. It would be something fun to add to the group. | /r/MGTOW | 08/09/18 06:20 AM |
| 6 | Does abused wife have "tingles" to her abusive husband?I don't know if any of them react that way to physical abuse, but I HAVE heard of cases where a woman is with her own personal "Chad," and the Chad is a piece of garbage, verbally abusing the woman and other people as well. The Chad in this case was a parasite, stupid, and arrogant as well. Yet because he was her Chad, the woman covered up for him to the outside world, defended him, lied about him to make him seem better than he was. She would not acknowledge, at least not to other people, that … | /r/MGTOW | 07/09/18 02:45 PM |
| 1 | Considering going MGTOW. Need an opinionWhat really got me going toward MGTOW was that I finally had a serious romantic relationship with a woman to whom I was attracted. There were lots of issues. Just before the break-up, I found myself thinking how great it would be to be single again. To be able to organize my life exactly as I wanted it. To my old self, this was an amazing thought, because I had tried for so many years to get that romantic relationship. It was something to catch myself directly dreaming about being single again. … | /r/MGTOW | 07/09/18 05:54 AM |
| 16 | Without Kids your 30's are like 20's.Hey, you CAN improve your life, you just have to keep trying. I'm sure that I don't know about every challenge that you've experienced, but I've also probably had challenges that you haven't experienced too. 27 is NOT too old to get started. Some people are starting a new, second career at 40. Some people are going through a horrible divorce at 40 that sets them back to "square one" in some ways. So, if you think about it, 27 is not a big deal. Plus, if you are MGTOW, you have the benefits of th… | /r/MGTOW | 07/09/18 03:24 AM |
| 1 | Broke my incel drought (4.5 years) last night. My thoughts on MGTOWTo me, MGTOW simply means that a guy is no longer looking for a serious romantic relationship. To me, whether or not he is good at attracting women is not part of the definition. Rather, to me, it's about no longer trying for a serious romantic relationship. A guy can walk away from romantic relationships because the whole system doesn't offer him a good situation. What difference does it make if he's offered bad relationship experiences, a horrible divorce, or nothing at all? | /r/MGTOW | 05/09/18 02:34 PM |
| 12 | Post red pill perspective after visiting a married friend.One of my past romantic relationships started going downhill when I had to start getting spending under control. Before meeting my ex, I was making good money for the first time ever and was gradually paying down debt. At the beginning of the relationship, naturally we did things every weekend, which cost money. My debt started actually increasing, even though I was making more money than ever before. She would not get a job, even though she said she would. She said she would pay half of househo… | /r/MGTOW | 04/09/18 08:20 PM |
| 3 | Married man: "My advice would be to spend less time alone. Get a girlfriend. You need to live a balanced life."I don't agree with the balanced life stuff. That's never been successful for me. I don't waste time at things that I'm not good at, ESPECIALLY things that I would likely never be good at. I focus on things where I have some natural ability, and I maximize those abilities. I had one serious romantic relationship. There were some fun moments, I won't lie, but by the breakup, it had had many negative effects. I am not sorry that I had the experience, because it was a unique experience in my life, b… | /r/MGTOW | 04/09/18 05:46 AM |
| 20 | WTF? Is up with women nowadays?What I remember from college is that, if a guy is a nerd (or something similar), he tends not to have a lot of friends, or his friends are other nerds (or something similar). At least back then, nerd friends tended to not share their dating disappointments with each other. Maybe some of it was the feeling that it was their own fault. But I also think that a big part of it was also lack of experience, and lack of information. Guys didn't realize that other guys were going through the same thing, … | /r/MGTOW | 03/09/18 07:09 PM |
| 45 | WTF? Is up with women nowadays?If I were treated like that, then I'd quit going to those types of parties. Don't you think that you would have been treated differently if you were a "SuperChad" (top 5% guy)? It's like they are not even trying to pretend anymore that anything matters other than what a guy looks like (with almost no guys being "good enough"). It's difficult for me to understand people who are adults, who still somehow get something out of putting down other people. I guess that it's like some sort of boost of t… | /r/MGTOW | 03/09/18 04:41 PM |
| 1 | Tish James wants NYC to put disclaimers on ads featuring 'Photoshopped' models - “Every day, New Yorkers are bombarded with images of unattainable beauty, created through digital alteration and spread throughout the city in ads in public spaces visible to millions of residents and visitors,”What about a message on ANY advertising image of a good-looking woman? Because she could look that way in real-life from good genetics, but the effect is the same as if the image were faked. How about messages on a picture of a really expensive house, because that could remind people of how poor they are. How about a message at the bottom of a hamburger container, because the food is never as enjoyable after it has already been eaten. Also, we need some signs here and there in society that say, … | /r/MGTOW | 03/09/18 07:17 AM |
| 4 | After having a call with a female relative andWhat does dating these days have to do with "being a man"? I tried my best to be the kinds of things that society says are good -- it didn't seem to matter much as far as attracting women. But back in college, I remember guys with horrible personalities being able to easily date beautiful women because women liked how they looked. So, is "being a man" about how a guy happens to look? I went through years of work and character-building to get where I got in life, only for the women that I wanted … | /r/MGTOW | 03/09/18 06:44 AM |
| 3 | Oh no! After becoming fully 100% feminist propaganda, the Star Wars universe is in danger of going extinct, I wonder how this could have happened...I'm not really much into Star Wars, but I've been following the discussion of it on this group. It does seem like the new series of films is trying to "pass the torch" to a new generation of characters. I don't see them having much luck with that. The casual public still thinks of Star Wars as Luke, Solo, Vader, Princess Leia, Yoda, Kenobi, Chewbacca, C3PO, R2D2, and so on. If you made really cool new characters, I think you could get the more serious fans to care a whole lot about the new chara… | /r/MGTOW | 01/09/18 06:35 PM |
| 4 | The new Barbie doll is too accurateCashfaguk wrote: which is why they are single. I don't get why mgtow dudes are so against lying when dating. It wouldn't work otherwise Whoa, you are saying that dating doesn't work if people are honest? You should be pro-MGTOW then. Think about it. If you can't expect people to attract each other when they are honest, then an honest healthy marriage wouldn't work. If they lie at first, then go honest for marriage, people aren't going to want to stay with someone different from whom they thought… | /r/MGTOW | 01/09/18 04:55 PM |
| 19 | Marriage Books Made Me MGTOWI've talked about mainstream dating books before on this group. It's definitely a subject worth exploring -- in my view, mainly to save other guys a LOT of wasted time and money spent on the books, as well as disappointment from if/when the books don't work. I read from at least a couple dating books from around the late '90s and early 2000s, if I remember correctly. One book was a total joke. The book read like the author was on drugs or something (I have no idea if the author actually was on d… | /r/MGTOW | 01/09/18 06:19 AM |
| 1 | My Sister's DivorceYou should do some research into how much poor and working-class people paid for their marriages 60 years ago. These days, there is probably a FAR greater chance of divorce, yet people get talked into spending ridiculous amounts of money, for a party that they would NEVER otherwise have. I could understand MAYBE spending that kind of money if it were expected to truly be the biggest day of one's life. But I'm thinking around a 1% chance of divorce instead of like 50% or so. The reasonable couple… | /r/MGTOW | 28/08/18 12:55 PM |
| 1 | This is Natasha Aponte, the woman Who Catfished Hundreds of Men in Her NYC Tinder Experiment; a Soft 6 with a Full Face of Make-Up at Best.Wasn't the story that she was a wanna-be singer and that there was a concert at her event? If so, I think the advantage of her name coming out is that many guys will know never to spend money on a product that she is involved with, because of doing such a disappointing marketing strategy, or whatever it was. | /r/MGTOW | 27/08/18 03:51 AM |
| 2 | Do you miss not having total control of your property since going MGTOW? Don't worry, the HOA is coming to change that!I would not buy property anywhere near a big city. I have heard that that's where you are more likely to run into those associations. If you have to live near a big city for work, the best bet, in my opinion, is the cheapest apartment that meets the requirements of what you want. If I ever bought property, I think it would be out in the middle of nowhere, maybe a county away from the nearest SMALL city. I also wouldn't have any bigger house than what I truly need. Who wants to throw so much mone… | /r/MGTOW | 27/08/18 01:29 AM |
| 1 | ‘Tinder Trap’ model claims she’s the victim after duping guysMan, those quotes from her -- can you think of a better way to get guys ready to go MGTOW? If a guy is already single, then reads about that event on this MGTOW group, then reads two months or so (or maybe much less) of this MGTOW group, and I think a lot of those guys will then be MGTOW. I mean, think about how messed up the whole situation is. A lot of guys are treated horribly by the dating world. But a lot of them stick around because they've never heard about anything like MGTOW yet. Now th… | /r/MGTOW | 26/08/18 05:38 PM |
| 6 | Sherly Sandberg once said girls should date a bunch of bad boys before settling down with a dependable guy.The problem with the advice in the original post's title, is that an ugly, dependable guy will get used to being alone from his 20's to his 30's or 40's. Before MGTOW, they might not realize what is going on, and get married to a woman when she has gotten too aged-looking to attract the Chads. The guy might think that he finally found his dream woman, it just took time, and not realize that he is just her "Plan B" or "retirement plan." Now with MGTOW information, we hear about this pattern over … | /r/MGTOW | 25/08/18 05:32 PM |
| 4 | What “The Tinder Trap” story has shown about female natureI think that this story is going to simply further ruin online dating even more. First, it's just one more argument for going MGTOW. Think about it: It's very possible that, for some of those guys, they could have been going on their first date in a long time, maybe ever. I wouldn't be surprised if some of these guys thought that their luck is changing, maybe they were getting a date that could turn into marriage, and so on. Only to be cruelly tricked. Some people may argue that this is WAY wors… | /r/MGTOW | 25/08/18 05:36 AM |
| 3 | What “The Tinder Trap” story has shown about female natureMy guess (from what I've read and heard about) is that what happens is that guys send out tons of messages on online dating websites, while women send out very few messages (on average of course). Even if you don't have equal numbers of men and women on these dating websites, it's easy to see how if there are a bunch of guys sending out 5 emails every other day, and almost none of the women send out emails (why would they need to if they get ten or more messages per day?), then the imbalance beg… | /r/MGTOW | 25/08/18 05:19 AM |
| 15 | My friend got his Facebook locked for posting this "sexist" image. Show him some love, reddit!Being able to attract women is just one characteristic of many that a guy can have. Maybe you aren't as lucky in one area as you would like to be, but you may be luckier than others in other areas. Even people who seem to have everything actually don't, because they don't get to build their character in the way that people who don't have everything get to. They never get the wisdom that one gets from losing at something, and from not getting everything they want. If someone inherits a lot of mon… | /r/MGTOW | 24/08/18 02:32 AM |
| 2 | Personal Benefits of GYOW - Share your story.Obviously, one of the major benefits of MGTOW is financial. Let me put it this way: I think of my career as three portions (or thirds). When I started my career, I had a lot of debt, student loans and credit cards for example. When I finally started at a good job, I was very good at saving money, and the debt started decreasing. Then I got into my one serious romantic relationship, and my debt started actually increasing again, even though I was making the most money that I had ever made, up unt… | /r/MGTOW | 23/08/18 02:50 PM |
| 2 | Women wanting 'smart' menI have a pretty good academic history. Honestly, I don't think that it ever made any significant difference in attracting women. Some of the women that I dated acted like it was attractive, but then they would cheat on me or break up with me. My belief is that you see it in online personals because it wouldn't sound good if they just said that they want someone good-looking. I think guys write the same stuff, for the same reason. People are ashamed to admit that all they care about is looks, so … | /r/MGTOW | 23/08/18 04:06 AM |
| 1 | Tinder date tricks me and 100 other men (Natasha Aponte) At what point do men say enough is enough and just walk away. If this were a man doing this the outrage would be incredible. But the backlash on this stunt will be minuscule if any.Is this the story that people have been posting about where some woman tricked a bunch of online dating guys into showing up for her public concert? People might think this won't affect anything, but don't you think this is going to lead to copycats, turning Tinder into a big mess that tricks people into being marketed to? If this happens over and over, it will help ruin what little is left of online dating. Who is going to go on Tinder if they think they will be repeatedly tricked and advertise… | /r/MGTOW | 22/08/18 11:19 PM |
| 2 | I'm starting to think I wouldn't mind being a hermit.The other day, I was looking at houses for sale, just to see what I could afford out in the country. Way up north, in a low population area, I could afford a small vacation cabin on a lake, with ten acres of land. It had a generator for electricity, and I also think it had a wood-burning stove and a supplemental heater for heat. I couldn't live up there and still have my current job. But if I retired early and got so that I didn't require much space to store all my stuff, that cabin sounds aweso… | /r/MGTOW | 22/08/18 01:03 PM |
| 3 | Life is a three ring circus. And these are the clowns. (MTV Video Music Awards 2018)MTV (and cable TV in general) represented some serious popular culture back in the 1980's. In my opinion, the closest things that we have like that today are typically on the Internet, and not on cable TV. I'll admit that I liked the "Beavis and Butt-Head" show on MTV in the 1990's. Post-2000, I haven't seen much on MTV that was worth watching. Maybe 5% at best. For me, the 2016 U.S. election really woke me up about much of Hollywood. I never thought they were that bad before, but now I saw an o… | /r/MGTOW | 22/08/18 03:56 AM |
| 3 | Life is a three ring circus. And these are the clowns. (MTV Video Music Awards 2018)Imagine the reactions of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Abraham Lincoln! | /r/MGTOW | 22/08/18 03:35 AM |
| 3 | Simp: "Advice for women on how to lock down a rich man"The article actually has some little bits of truth in it, but overall, I think it is bad advice. To start with, the whole idea of the article is bad. It's basically encouraging women to chase guys based on money. Um, isn't that something that is bad, as in shouldn't they NOT be faking interest in a guy because of his money? Beyond that, the article is telling women how to act, that is, act one way instead of being themselves. Again, isn't this a big no-no???? Who wants to date a fake person runn… | /r/MGTOW | 22/08/18 02:32 AM |
| 6 | Another reason to quit dating, the cost.Anyone who EXPECTS to have $300 spent on them during a date does not deserve to go on a date. | /r/MGTOW | 22/08/18 01:36 AM |
| 7 | Another reason to quit dating, the cost.I've gone ten years without dating. $0 over a decade! | /r/MGTOW | 22/08/18 01:32 AM |
| 1 | "The 40-Year-Old Virgin" but not as good as you remember.I think that it's still at least an okay movie, but the key is to remember that it's only a movie and not a guide to life. There are romantic themes in a lot of classic 80's movies, and a WHOLE lot of good popular music. I don't think that going MGTOW means that you can no longer enjoy what you used to enjoy -- although if it does, then I guess one finds something else for entertainment. For me, I manage to keep entertainment and reality separate in my brain. That being said, I'm really annoyed … | /r/MGTOW | 18/08/18 01:36 AM |
| 7 | Why no MGTOW in ask men over 30? I would assume men over 30 are great people for young MGTOW to talk toHere's what the original post reminds me of: Back when I tried to date, I used to read mainstream dating books. Some of them had some memorable text, and some okay general advice about life, but NEVER did the advice lead to any serious improvement in my dating success. Nor did it explain very much of my dating world experiences at all. Years later, when I started reading MGTOW-related material, it all did a VERY good job of explaining my dating world experiences. Some of it were things that I pr… | /r/MGTOW | 18/08/18 12:34 AM |
| 3 | EVERY SINGLE ONE of my friends is in a completely one-sided relationship. All of them. I'm going to explain in detail.My theory is that most guys really want to be married to a woman that they are attracted to -- at least attracted to when they first met, or at least somewhat attracted to, if they can't attract anyone whom they are REALLY attracted to. It sounds bad to them to make it simply about attraction, but that's the difference between marrying/dating and simply being friends with a woman. To make it sound better than about simply attraction, society encourages marriage/dating to be about a very involved… | /r/MGTOW | 15/08/18 10:50 AM |
| 8 | Got Called a "Beta male" at work by a womanIf that's all it was, I'd just ignore it. I've gotten far worse treatment over the years, from men AND women. I think that a lot of people are rough on themselves for not being perfect. But -- for all of those people -- there are lots of OTHER people who have REALLY horribly messed up and nasty personalities, so much so that we have to wonder how they are able to function in life. If it makes you feel any better, behavior like that helps push guys toward MGTOW, a little bit each time. Someday pe… | /r/MGTOW | 14/08/18 08:17 AM |
| 1 | 19, never going to get marriedw0lf_x wrote: You people are ... crazy, you obviously have not found someone you love because if you did you wouldn't be posting this and you would get off of this subreddit, marriage does not compromise your life unless you're marrying someone you don't love. You are writing the above comment in a group FILLED with guys who have tried and tried with romantic relationships and simply gotten disappointment in return. MGTOW is basically a guy going against his nature, and think what bad experience… | /r/MGTOW | 14/08/18 07:31 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think MGTOW is growing at such a rapid rate?For me, it became the only reasonable choice that I had. I tried romantic relationships. It was very difficult even to date anyone that I would want to date. Then, when I did have that chance, it either went nowhere or turned out to be a bad experience. So, I basically had two choices: Keep trying or go MGTOW. I was tired of trying. Who wants to keep putting in effort at anything, for nothing that turns out good in return. I haven't even gotten into the other issues that guys on this group have … | /r/MGTOW | 11/08/18 03:38 AM |
| 1 | Living Life As A Short White MaleIf you go MGTOW and are not trying to be a professional athlete in certain sports, being short begins to matter much, much less. MGTOW also greatly decreases the importance of what a person looks like. A MGTOW is free to focus on career and has the freedom to plan his life to be as he wants it to be...apart from getting into a serious relationship. Before MGTOW, I remember how finding the right woman was always one of my top life plans. When a guy walks away from that world, he discovers that th… | /r/MGTOW | 04/08/18 04:11 AM |
| 11 | Never the same again, dating apps are garbage. ... or filled withGood luck getting a response if you are most guys that try to email an attractive woman on one of those dating websites. She can be working a low-paying job, have zero work put into the text part of her profile, and have various problems, and you can be a successful guy who writes her a nice email that took effort, but you can expect to see "Unread-Deleted" on your email to her very quickly (if she even logs in regularly), if she doesn't like your photo. There's just no point. It's pointless! | /r/MGTOW | 02/08/18 11:33 AM |
| 2 | 65k is great but..Probably most people here tried romantic relationships at one time or another. If they had good experiences, they probably wouldn't be in this group. Whether a guy doesn't attract women easily, or whether a guy attracts women easily but has bad experiences, either way, how does one make the case that guys go back to a situation where those guys have already determined that there is nothing for them there? | /r/MGTOW | 02/08/18 03:16 AM |
| 1 | Cuck from New York Times: You don't want marriage if you want prenups. You should have joint bank accounts and pool your income if you want to be happily married.I don't care about reading this type of article, so I'm commenting based on the other comments here. This type of article will encourage guys toward MGTOW, and also encourage guys to quit reading mainstream media -- because it comes across as such bad advice for guys actually following how things are out there in romantic relationships. When I think back on my most recent romantic relationship (many years ago), the idea of having a shared bank account with my "ex," and giving her great access to… | /r/MGTOW | 30/07/18 01:05 AM |
| 3 | She cheated on me todayThere are some nasty people out there. I think the best thing to do is minimize the amount of time that you have to be around them. If everyone did that, these people would find themselves all alone after a while -- or maybe only around other people who are just as miserable as they are to be around. Perhaps that would encourage them to treat other people with respect. Regarding people who judge other people: Imagine if they had the attention put on them, and other people decided to point out ne… | /r/MGTOW | 27/07/18 05:01 AM |
| 5 | Wall hitter says dating sucks in her 30sI feel like dating just isn't fun, for many guys these days. If someone just pointed out to them that it's not fun for them, and had them read this MGTOW group for a while, I think that many of them would go MGTOW. | /r/MGTOW | 26/07/18 03:45 PM |
| 2 | Showerthought: The 'right girl' just means the girl that is pretty enough that she will make you fall for herShowerthought: It appears that people are spending too much time thinking in the shower and wasting water. (Just kidding!) | /r/MGTOW | 25/07/18 06:10 AM |
| 2 | Forgive me for asking mgtow brothers is it just me or are all French men simps,manginas,white knights,blue pill cucks,etc. etc.I've been to France, and I got along fine with the people there. While different ideas may be more popular in different countries, I think it's helpful to always keep in mind that people are individuals. For example, I don't think that I have ever seen an Internet group with more variety of backgrounds among its people, than this MGTOW group. (Well, other than there aren't many women here, which is understandable because the group is directed toward men.) I mean, I've seen people here, claiming … | /r/MGTOW | 25/07/18 06:03 AM |
| 1 | Married man: "You can't have a fulfilling life alone. You need to be more social and have more hobbies. I was like you but I changed and met my wife."If you think they really look down on you, are you sure that they are really your friends? I don't feel that way about any of my close friends. It's really not that difficult to find good people to be your close friends. (In my opinion, a lot of people really only have time to have a small number of close friends anyway.) It could be that your friends aren't looking down on you, but just expressing their honest opinion. I wouldn't be offended by that because I think it's good to have friends tha… | /r/MGTOW | 25/07/18 05:40 AM |
| 2 | Why Do Liberals Virtue Signal To Minorities/Women But Openly Mock Folks On The SpectrumI think it depends on the community. I don't think you would call Hollywood people conservatives. There are definitely certain parts of the U.S. that are known for wealthy liberals. I think that's where the "limousine liberal" term comes from. There are also a lot of rural working-class people, who would be considered poor by the standards of a lot of people, but who are very, very conservative. It's gotten even more complicated with U.S. politics now, because you hear about Democrats having wea… | /r/MGTOW | 25/07/18 05:17 AM |
| 3 | Someone please help me understand why any guy would get married in this day and age?I don't think I have ever heard mainstream television seriously suggest that dating and marriage might not be for everyone, only maybe as comedy. From this group, it seems that there are more than a few guys who have had bad romantic experiences. It seems really weird that walking away from that sort of thing is never talked about seriously on TV. Why is that? If you hear about a famous person going through a bad divorce, it always seems like, the next thing you know, they are talking about who … | /r/MGTOW | 25/07/18 04:50 AM |
| 2 | Im 18 year old man. Is modern dating really that bad?Like the other commenter said, the estimate here is that women are typically attracted to the top 20% of guys. So, it's one out of every 5 guys, which kind of makes sense. I mean, I saw lots of guys back in college that women seemed to chase. But it also seemed to be far from being every guy. Also, I think you are looking at it a bit too negatively (I'll admit I was sounding kind of negative and disappointed too, in my previous comment). But I think about it this way: I'd rather understand how t… | /r/MGTOW | 24/07/18 08:28 AM |
| 5 | Im 18 year old man. Is modern dating really that bad?I'm middle-aged, and I think the dating world is pretty bad -- basically for the whole time that I've been an adult. For me, it's just pointless. I'm not particularly attractive to women, but I have a lot of other good qualities. From what I can tell, it's almost impossible for those other qualities to make up for not being good-looking to women. When I was in my twenties, I didn't know about anything like this MGTOW group, where guys can share stories and get some idea of other guys' experience… | /r/MGTOW | 24/07/18 02:21 AM |
| 6 | Not being in a relationship is one of the best things Ive ever done.seventyhundreds wrote: Awesome for you bro! But you don’t ever have a feeling of wanting someone there to share your successes with? A great partner is practically a best friend, and everyone needs a best friend. I think that a lot of guys on this group start off wanting exactly that. It would be nice if the world actually worked like that for everyone. I tried to find a partner for years and years, and I walked away from all that after just getting tired of searching. So much of it is pointless… | /r/MGTOW | 20/07/18 06:09 AM |
| 2 | Marriage LossesI wonder if anyone has ever offered divorce insurance. | /r/MGTOW | 20/07/18 05:09 AM |
| 1 | A girl on Tinder told me her favorite subreddits are /r/niceguys and /r/creepypms and that she takes screenshots oftenI think there was a story on this group a while back that some women were filming guys coming up to talk to them at bars, just average guys, so that the women could post the videos online and make fun of them online. All that stuff is, is just wickedness. I'll see posts on this group where a guy is really upset, and I'll think he went too negative with his post, but you know what? From the types of stories that we see on this group, you have to wonder if something really bad was done to at least… | /r/MGTOW | 20/07/18 05:00 AM |
| 2 | MGTOW in ebay, even sellers now know men looking for MGTOW fashion/stickers.If you go on Amazon Music, you can find songs written about MGTOW. I think Amazon also has other MGTOW items. | /r/MGTOW | 19/07/18 11:55 PM |
| 2 | Feminist replied to my dating profile which said in it "please be thin, at least not fat"What if you said to her that basically everyone (men AND women) have some sort of standards in dating, and that those standards are generally whatever the person wants, with often not much thought to fairness, reasonableness, niceness, nor any kind of higher values? Is she going to message everybody else about their standards? We could have equal opportunity in dating if all dating adults were required to be matched up through a random lottery. Would she support that? | /r/MGTOW | 19/07/18 12:24 AM |
| 3 | What's up with all these girls on Tinder telling guys to message them first?This reminds of online dating websites, where you see "Unread-Deleted" and "Read-Deleted" when a guy checks to see if his messages to women have been read. I don't think storage space is particularly limited in those mailboxes, so the quick delete always seems like a silent annoyed message to the guy, telling him that he's not in the same league as the women he emailed. Anyone who plays mind games with other people for the purposes of somehow saying that they are some sort of unofficial "royalty… | /r/MGTOW | 18/07/18 03:40 PM |
| 7 | Pete Davidson gives the biggest thot in Hollywood his dad's pendantFor as much as you hear about Grande, I'd say, generously, that I've heard about two good pop songs from her. She seems kind of average as a pop star. It's not that you don't hear some good new pop songs these days -- you still can. It's the dance pop that I don't understand -- most of it seems so forgettable, and there just doesn't seem to be much to so many of those songs. I think I read one time about how 80's music, when it first came out, had people calling it overproduced and basically not… | /r/MGTOW | 17/07/18 08:24 AM |
| 1 | They always come back...From my experiences, people who are doing well in life are usually really happy and positive. Even if somebody wrongs them, it usually matters far less to them because, hey, look at all the cool stuff they have going on with their own life. The best way to deal with just plain bad people, or people whose lives are out of control in a negative way -- especially if they can't be helped -- is avoid them as much as possible. It's not worth your own time, or the chance of getting pulled into having t… | /r/MGTOW | 17/07/18 04:48 AM |
| 6 | Reporting back from Blue Pill summer partyThat story sounds like a modern-day version of a story that you might read in a religious book, about people consumed by wickedness and sin, like their culture is in the process of collapsing. Seriously, I can't even imagine that any of those people would be fun to be around, that the original poster described. How horrible! I know that nobody is perfect, but that doesn't even sound like a fun party. It just sounds like people in a contest to see who can lower themselves the most. I'm sorry to t… | /r/MGTOW | 17/07/18 01:05 AM |
| 8 | So what, I can't use Reddit and have an opinion about other topics without people using really bad fallacious reasoning in an attempt to invalidate any input of mine, merely because they cannot respond effectively to my post?I'm in recovery for addiction and my parents didn't fail me at all. That's kind of a contradictory statement, don't you think...? Parents aren't gods. It is possible for a person to have really good parents, and yet the person ends up with problems as an adult. It's classified as a disease by the USA because it's a malfunction of an organ (the brain) that causes symptoms (compulsion, isolation, manipulation) It has to require treatment and also the changes need to be irreversible if not treated,… | /r/MGTOW | 16/07/18 02:07 PM |
| 1 | How do I stop caring about romance?I'll tell you what helped me go MGTOW: I spent fifteen years (a lot of my twenties and thirties), trying and mostly failing at dating. I finally got the only serious romantic relationship that I ever had. It was great at first, but it wasn't long before problems started appearing, and the whole thing was falling apart by the time of the break-up. I could go into great detail about all the problems -- there were a lot of them -- but most of the problems were not all that unusual. I thought they w… | /r/MGTOW | 15/07/18 05:17 AM |
| 2 | Until He Puts Effort Into These Things, Don’t Marry HimI'm not interested in reading the article in the original post, but it's pointless anyway. I put effort into the things that we are all told are important by society, and most women were not very attracted to me. From what I could tell, attraction from women was mainly about physical appearance. So why write articles about requirements to get married? Isn't it mainly just if the guy is good-looking to the woman, or not? And also if she wants to only be around one such guy at a time, instead of b… | /r/MGTOW | 12/07/18 04:39 AM |
| 2 | I been single since like 2012"Read - delete" always seemed the worst to me, because the delete typically occurred immediately after reading. It always seems like the mailboxes have plenty of storage space, so the immediate delete always seemed like an insult, as if they are insulted that the guy even thought they were in the woman's league, to email them, and they wanted that email gone from their mailbox right away! And of course it always somehow seemed like they were trying to show the guy just how fast their email was d… | /r/MGTOW | 12/07/18 04:21 AM |
| 4 | I been single since like 2012I tried online dating for years and years. I've never had good results. It's difficult to say if it's getting worse, because I'm just one person, but it did seem to get more and more disappointing and pointless in the later years that I tried it. Over 15 years, I probably sent 1500 emails on those websites, introducing me to women. Of that, maybe 150 women ever sent even a single email back. Of those, maybe 50 women ever communicated beyond one email. Of those, maybe 20 women had any kind of a l… | /r/MGTOW | 12/07/18 03:57 AM |
| 4 | They fired the males that ran the show, canceled the swimsuit competition. This is what they wanted. Now what?? We kill each other I guess...Whatever anyone thinks about what direction the competition should go in, I think they are in a really difficult situation if they can't even get most of the key people to agree even on what Miss America should be. Just like how, if you are writing a story, it's really helps to start with a good idea of exactly what type of story you are trying to write. I could imagine the whole thing splitting into multiple competing competitions, none of which would probably have the place in society that Mis… | /r/MGTOW | 12/07/18 03:32 AM |
| 3 | Hey guys, listen to this cuck.. we should be embarrassed to be associated with MGTOW.I'm guessing the guy might go right back to MGTOW after being treated like that. | /r/MGTOW | 12/07/18 03:08 AM |
| 2 | Is Cinema Dead?I had a few mainstream TV shows that I enjoyed, but Hollywood went so arrogant and one-sided with the politics that I decided to quit watching and listening to mainstream Hollywood product, as much as possible. I don't even care if they want to talk politics, but why do they have to be so one-sided! Their arguments come across as intellectually dishonest propaganda. So much of the time they just don't talk about things that would make their own opinions look incorrect. Hollywood came across like… | /r/MGTOW | 10/07/18 11:53 PM |
| 3 | Men should pay on dates because wage gapWhat would she have said if you had said: "How about, instead of paying for anyone, if a guy just doesn't go on any dates anymore?" | /r/MGTOW | 10/07/18 05:15 AM |
| 2 | No more girlfriend - it’s official, I’m MGTOW nowAnother possibility is that, theoretically, he could date again if he met his absolute dream woman. But reading the stories here may make him raise his standards so high (in light of the risks of dating) that he won't date again unless the situation is perfect (which he would probably never find). So the effect is that he basically turns out MGTOW anyway. | /r/MGTOW | 08/07/18 03:44 PM |
| 3 | Alpha Male Strategies dude hates MGTOWi was also loud always had a story to tell, a crowd joker etc,, then i found out that people where making fun of me behind my back all those story, jokes made me look like a ... idiot, and that is what alpha male books tell you to do. This reminds me of someone I knew who was basically a nerd (note that I'm NOT saying that you are a nerd). I noticed a change in him, and it was like he was trying to pretend to be a Chad, acting overly "fake confident" among women, and really acting in a way that … | /r/MGTOW | 07/07/18 05:26 PM |
| 2 | Interesting... looks like HPV vaccines are causing female "sterility" -- or at least reduced likelihood of getting pregnant.We have a lot of centralization in our society today. Increased centralization means an increased chance of misuse of that centralization, simply because it's easier to misuse something when it's all in one place. For me, I believe in vaccinations, and I get my vaccinations, but our society kind of brought the anti-vaccination stuff onto itself. When society, on its face, appears to be run so much for the benefit of the top 1%, do you think that people might be open to questioning what the mains… | /r/MGTOW | 07/07/18 01:02 PM |
| 1 | Latest #MGTOW hater posts on Twitter. Literally more women using it to spread hate than actual posts.Of all the comments listed in the original post, that may actually be the most disappointing one. They can't just admit that dating is so much what a person looks like. From my own experiences, a guy can try to be a woman's personal comedian, and it matters almost nothing if the guy isn't physically attractive. She gets free entertainment, and the guy wastes his own time thinking that he could ever "win her love." I've seen guys with horrible personalities, or simply average personalities, datin… | /r/MGTOW | 07/07/18 11:07 AM |
| 2 | BetrayalThose of us who never had parents who divorced, or never have been through a bad divorce ourselves, or never have otherwise experienced a serious family split: we should never forget how lucky we are. But it is surprising how one can find oneself in such a situation, even if one thinks that something like that could never happen in their family. I know of a middle-aged person who is in the process of completely spoiling their ties to their family. It is unbelievable. It's like they don't even kn… | /r/MGTOW | 06/07/18 05:44 AM |
| 1 | She unmatchedIt would be funny for a guy to show up to a date on stilts like at the circus, and the woman's eyes are level with the bottom of the guy's feet. Guy: "No, these aren't stilts, I'm really 11'9"." Then the guy trips over a chair at the fancy restaurant, tips over, and falls right into the middle of another customer's table. | /r/MGTOW | 06/07/18 04:29 AM |
| 8 | I’m finally done.This group should buy a castle to party in, or something like that. | /r/MGTOW | 06/07/18 04:02 AM |
| 8 | #walkaway and Merkel implosion! New world order failing.Don't forget how unfair the 2016 Democratic Primaries appeared to be. Where's the investigation of that, or the talk of addressing any issues with it? I think the Democratic Party thinks that people will forget about those issues, but I'll never vote for anyone running as a Democrat ever again. I was a Bernie supporter too, but now I think that the Democratic Party is not as good as Trump on any day. Trump stopped TPP, which I think is the most progressive thing that a President has done in deca… | /r/MGTOW | 05/07/18 11:51 PM |
| 2 | Star Wars Is NOT Okay. Disney Universe ImplodingI think they are making these movies for families. They probably want Star Wars to become a sort of "permanent brand" like Barbie and Legos. Families will go to the next Star Wars movie because it's the long-running Star Wars brand. They are going for everyday fun with their family -- they probably are not going to know or care much if the movie is bad, unoriginal, or wasn't anywhere near what it could have been. (And of course it appears that they threw their politics in there for the heck of i… | /r/MGTOW | 03/07/18 01:00 PM |
| 1 | Have a Shitty Reputation In College. What Do I Do? (Long Post)If you haven't already tried, I'd say that you should look into medical treatment for your condition. Even if it doesn't 100% cure you, it would probably be worth it, if it significantly lowers your symptoms. My advice about what else to do depends on just how unhappy you are with your current situation. If you basically can barely stand walking around campus in your daily life of going to class, and if you have a lot of time left in your college career -- and if it doesn't set you back too far … | /r/MGTOW | 02/07/18 06:00 AM |
| 6 | What MADE you go MGTOWThroughout my twenties, I wanted to find a partner so much, and I tried and tried, with not much success. Finally, I found my one serious romantic relationship. But there turned out to be all kinds of problems, just lots of signs that it was the wrong decision. One night, on my way home from work, I found myself thinking how great it would be to be single again, have all my time to myself, make all my own decisions based only on what I think that I should do, and no more bad experiences in the r… | /r/MGTOW | 01/07/18 07:26 AM |
| 16 | "Man drought". Apparently MGTOW is growing so much that post-wall hags can't find betabux anymoreI think it's very possible that MGTOW could spread to the so-called "orbiters." I think that a good share of MGTOW are guys who used to try and try to get dates with women, only to fail. I believe that those kinds of experiences basically prep these guys to easily go MGTOW whenever they finally hear about it. Let's face it, it's no fun for those guys to be disappointed over and over again. They aren't giving anything up by going MGTOW because they have good reason to believe that they'll never a… | /r/MGTOW | 01/07/18 06:31 AM |
| 1 | Report: Disney Wants To Fire Kathleen Kennedy For Ruining Star Wars FilmsThey should do a movie where they reveal who trained Yoda...and it turns out that it was a time traveler from a place called Earth named "George Lucas," played by George Lucas himself. They could use computer effects to turn Lucas into the most incredible fighter of any Star Wars movie. So the George Lucas character battles his way through the whole movie -- basically the whole movie would be the Lucas character fighting -- to basically undo everything that Disney did to wreck the series. | /r/MGTOW | 28/06/18 09:05 AM |
| 1 | Broke up with my girlfriend yesterday.Look at the psychological stuff that people talk about with respect to romantic relationships. When I was into dating, I just wanted to be myself and find a romantic relationship to be happy with. Who in the heck wants to play a bunch of mind games, whether or not the partner is aware of what they are doing? So often it seems like people are being UNHAPPY in a romantic relationship and not happy. Of course, I was never very successful at dating, maybe because, at that time, I had never even hear… | /r/MGTOW | 28/06/18 08:48 AM |
| 1 | Should the manosphere be more inclusive politically?I think a lot of top Republicans wouldn't be in favor of MGTOW, either. They believe that a man should work hard and be chivalrous and that NAWALT. Yes, I believe that, in this group, those are called "traditional conservatives." I think that it would be very difficult, at least in the near future, for politicians to be pro-MGTOW; they would probably see it as automatically giving up all of the women votes. Certainly that has been my approach so far. I'm not very far to the left, I just find a l… | /r/MGTOW | 28/06/18 08:21 AM |
| 1 | "I don't date guys under 6' 3" and would NEVER date a man shorter than 5' 10" (Article)If a guy isn't MGTOW already, listening to someone say that he shouldn't even be considered as a partner due to his height not being way above average -- no matter what else about him -- I'll tell you, that's gonna prepare the guy pretty strongly toward the direction of going MGTOW. I think a lot of people suspect, even way in the back of their minds, that dating is so much about physical appearance, but I think people also try to force it out of their minds for a while, and believe in themselve… | /r/MGTOW | 27/06/18 10:45 PM |
| 4 | i need guidance .. pleaseOh, believe me, I am well-aware that what I wanted probably didn't ever reasonably exist for me -- see the rest of my comment. As far as being sad over it, I'll probably always have at least a little bit of sadness and disappointment that my dream romantic relationship wasn't reality. That being said, I am WAY less sad over it now than before MGTOW, because I now understand that it wasn't realistic, and it's silly to get sad over not having things that aren't realistic. | /r/MGTOW | 24/06/18 02:05 PM |
| 6 | i need guidance .. pleaseIf you are a typical guy in your early twenties, you are probably going to think about women. Even after MGTOW, I still find women attractive, but I don't really have much motivation to try to date ever again. So, first of all, don't confuse that feeling of attraction to women with that you have to date. There are a few things that helped me become accepting of living a single life: Probably most importantly, I put years and years into trying to date, and just got disappointment and even a bad r… | /r/MGTOW | 24/06/18 10:53 AM |
| 2 | Being "Witty" on Tinder.Years ago when I did online dating, I used to chat with the women online to get to know them. I would try so hard to entertain them and try to make them laugh. I think that I was pretty good at online chat. So, my advice is: Trying to entertain via online chat seems to have basically no value in attracting women. Once in a while, I'd get an online chat friend for a while, sometimes even a good friend (as good of a friend as an online chat friend can be LOL), but it never resulted in a successful… | /r/MGTOW | 24/06/18 10:14 AM |
| 1 | Should the manosphere be more inclusive politically?The Democratic Party seems very, very tied to certain social issue views, and those views really are not very compatible with the idea of this MGTOW group or the atmosphere here. So, while you may think that this group is closed-minded to the Democratic Party, I'm thinking that a lot of top Democrats would not be in favor of MGTOW, if you explained a lot of the related views to them. So you could argue that the Democratic Party is not open to MGTOW. Anyway, it seems that the two things tend to e… | /r/MGTOW | 24/06/18 03:39 AM |
| 1 | This sub has opened my eyesWhy in the world are you spending time on a MGTOW group then? If you love to eat steaks, would you be spending time on a vegetarian group? | /r/MGTOW | 24/06/18 02:06 AM |
| 2 | "Please get off the red pill or black pill or whatever pill you’re swallowing"If a guy is MGTOW, he probably already has a pretty good idea of why men get rejected. In fact, that may be a major reason why he went MGTOW. | /r/MGTOW | 23/06/18 01:44 PM |
| 10 | "Please get off the red pill or black pill or whatever pill you’re swallowing"That explanation in the original post telling guys not to follow red-pill dating philosophy -- that is pretty far up the list of explanations of dating that LEAST matches the reality that I've seen. We've all seen guys that had nothing going for them, other than being Chads, and in fact had horrible personalities -- yet they date some of the best-looking women. I totally saw this in college. It wasn't that women dated only bad guys, it was that the guy's personality seemed to matter very little.… | /r/MGTOW | 23/06/18 04:00 AM |
| 2 | Matchmaker thot that only dated ballers and business men, has found God and settled with a simp post wall, says women have too high standardsI'm middle-aged, and, while I could probably date if I really wanted to, I am not seeing a dream woman chasing after me. I'm pretty sure that anyone that I would be really attracted to, still wouldn't date me. Beyond that, one thing that I don't think some of these women consider is that my desire for a romantic relationship is basically gone. It's not just MGTOW -- I just got disappointed so many times that there just isn't any excitement in me about the idea of ever dating again. So, by ignori… | /r/MGTOW | 23/06/18 01:29 AM |
| 2 | Interesting social change and new perspectiveI went MGTOW a bit later than you. I don't think that you should view your twenties as wasted -- just look at it as time spent, from which you learned important information. I don't even feel overly bad about the romantic relationships that I did have -- they were all life experiences and helped me figure out what direction that I wanted to go in, later on. If I had never had so much disappointment in the dating world, I would be less likely to understand MGTOW, and I would probably always wonde… | /r/MGTOW | 22/06/18 03:24 AM |
| 1 | How to save $368,000Also, keep in mind that a lot of guys can't even attract a woman that they are all that attracted to -- they basically have to settle for "the best they can attract" if they want to get married. So imagine all that extra expense, and you don't even really get the partner that you dreamed of, yet you still have the risks of a bad romantic relationship and divorce, and so on. And all the work and responsibility of a serious romantic relationship, and all the work of having a family if your marriag… | /r/MGTOW | 22/06/18 02:51 AM |
| 1 | Game is BullshitSome of the recommended stuff may help, like getting in really good shape, but I don't think it's some kind of magic advice. If a guy is not particularly good-looking, he's probably looking at a lot of work and time for any kind of reasonable dating improvement, and no guarantees, in return. To which one has to ask: (1) Is it just too much work for what one is likely to get in return?; and (2) Why should a guy have to do all that if no woman is willing to do the same for him? And let's not forge… | /r/MGTOW | 21/06/18 03:25 AM |
| 3 | Baby Boomers aren't retiringI think a lot of this has to do with that the Boomers' adult kids don't have the kind of job market that the Boomers had at their ages. I've heard that, in the 1960's, they actually RECRUITED workers for automotive industry factory jobs from OTHER STATES. Imagine being 18 years old and walking right into a solid factory job (no college debt) that you could work for your entire career, and have everything you needed to build a full life. Now I hear about underemployed people, even into their thir… | /r/MGTOW | 20/06/18 01:35 AM |
| 2 | “No woman would want to marry you anyway”Okay, so there are probably billions of single women in this world. If any guy just kept making his preferences more and more flexible, isn't it likely that he could get married? The problem is that a lot of guys would wind up with someone whom they are barely attracted to, if at all, and/or someone with all kinds of problems; such as a woman who is so messed up that she can't hold a job and would just get married to have somewhere to live with no rent. It's not worth taking on the risks and res… | /r/MGTOW | 19/06/18 02:02 PM |
| 1 | Mindy Kaling: White male critics are being ‘unfair’ to ‘Ocean’s 8’ - Co-star Cate Blanchett agreed, blaming the media for not getting it right. “The conversation has to change and the media has a huge responsibility,”I'll tell you why I didn't go see her movie: Because I avoid almost all Hollywood product anymore. Because Hollywood had to make a point to rip on the political opinions of roughly half of our country. It mattered so much to Hollywood to act like that, that they didn't care if they offended the public and drove people away from spending money on their product. I even quit watching TV shows that I used to really like, just to make a point. I believe that many other members of the public are doing… | /r/MGTOW | 17/06/18 01:49 PM |
| 3 | What do you argue to people who claim you were too immature to move on?In my opinion, the correct way to answer this depends on the open-mindedness and friend-level of the person that you are talking to. If the person is someone who doesn't like you, or who isn't going to accept any answer that you give them, then I would say to not waste your time arguing. If you can, it helps to limit how much time you have to be around such people anyway. If the person is a good friend, who you know isn't going to get angry with you over just your opinion, you can get into actua… | /r/MGTOW | 17/06/18 09:47 AM |
| 3 | Only good reviews will be accepted on Amazon for Oprah and her crappy movie. I tried to start leaving a 5 star review and it did not stop me.They should just let people post the comments that they want to post, with the exception of anything really bad. I've seen some absolutely hilarious stuff posted as product reviews. In my opinion, it adds to the value of Amazon. | /r/MGTOW | 16/06/18 07:35 AM |
| 1 | She just "finessed" a free mealI think you are getting at a really important point here. The actions of many individuals are very difficult to control, yet overall, combined, they can still have a massive effect on society. So, I wanted to date and marry at one time. I tried to approach it just the way that society told me to. But what society told me, wasn't the way that it actually was. Women didn't seem to care about if I was a nice guy, or educated, or responsible, or actually tried to make them happy. Instead, it appeare… | /r/MGTOW | 15/06/18 07:30 AM |
| 3 | What made me go my own wayIsn't it sad that, in order to discover what was going on, you had to NOT trust? In other words, you had to behave the way that we are told to NOT behave -- that is, we are all encouraged to trust our partners. If you HAD trusted, who knows how long you could have been cheated on, without knowing. I'm not the type of person to cheat on a partner, and I never realized how common such cheating is by so many other people out there. I don't understand why it is so difficult for those people to simpl… | /r/MGTOW | 12/06/18 02:35 AM |
| 2 | Apparently I’m gay?First of all, people who harass other people in this way, from what I have seen, are typically losers. They usually seem to be the type of people who have very average lifestyles (or worse), then -- perhaps years later -- they may wonder what went wrong. Well, what went wrong is probably that they spent their time talking about other people, when it's difficult enough to be successful without wasting one's time on such activities. So, keep in mind that such people are actually punishing themselv… | /r/MGTOW | 11/06/18 09:29 AM |
| 2 | AT least 60,000 men going their own way, I wonder where they got that figure from.....I don't have any interest in reading the original article, so my comment here is based on your comments about the article. It sounds like the author was willing to actually do a little bit of research, but unfortunately it also sounds like the author was unable to get past the author's own world view regarding understanding what was written about MGTOW, or having an open mind. I mean, if you think about it, what the author is really saying is that guys shouldn't be able to decide for themselves … | /r/MGTOW | 08/06/18 04:20 PM |
| 1 | CNN is trying to cuck you. Smh.Just to be honest -- I'm not interested in reading the article, so my opinion of the article is based on the comments here about it. I think that encouraging one's wife to cheat is one of the most ridiculous ideas that we've seen get much attention. Okay, so one of the key points about being married is NOT cheating -- so do they want to be married or not? I mean, if we can just completely change the definition of marriage, and if married people can act basically like they aren't married, then I'… | /r/MGTOW | 30/05/18 04:46 AM |
| 4 | "Solo" flops, pulling in Justice League weekend numbers.I'm not really that into Star Wars, but I remember the special place that the original three movies had in popular culture. They were the right type of movie at the right time, right there with "E.T." The second set of movies (the late-90's ones) were a big deal in part, I think, because they were the first new major Star Wars movies in a really long time. At first, it sounded to me like the new series of Star Wars movies were giving fans what they wanted by going back to the actors and characte… | /r/MGTOW | 28/05/18 05:12 AM |
| 2 | "Solo" flops, pulling in Justice League weekend numbers.One thing that I don't see people mention is that it seems like they branded this as kind of a "B" Star Wars movie instead of one of the big main-series movies. This isn't the first time that I've seen this done in entertainment, and I rarely see much benefit to it. It basically tells people: "You don't have to see this one unless you are a serious fan that has to see every single Star Wars movie." Even if they don't give every film the same budget, I'd say to market every film to be as big of a… | /r/MGTOW | 28/05/18 04:38 AM |
| 2 | I posted a few weeks ago about my grandpa's funeral and the women there asking why I was single...You want to hear something strange that I've noticed with distant family, the types of people that you only see at family events every 5 years or so? When I was a kid or teenager, all of them were nice to me. They also all seemed mature, thoughtful, and intelligent. I don't think that I thought of any of them as having any negative sides to their personalities. Years later, I have seen some of these same distant relatives as adults, and, a couple of times, I've gotten some weird comments from th… | /r/MGTOW | 26/05/18 01:15 AM |
| 4 | Chad hunting exampleWhat you said should basically be turned into a song for people. But I'm basically MGTOW because of just an overall bad experience with dating and romantic relationships. One of the best things about MGTOW is that you don't have to care about any of that stuff anymore. Now, I do still complain about it on this group, but that's just my way of responding to the unfair way that the dating world treated me -- so I'll rip on the dating world for its unfairness where other guys can read about it, and… | /r/MGTOW | 24/05/18 01:15 PM |
| 2 | So, I put a comment in the video "The Truth About Incels" about MGTOWIf you are talking about that Watson video, I expect that a lot of commenters there are his fans. If that's the case, a lot of them are going to tend to just agree with whatever Watson says. Some of them aren't going to understand that Watson can be wrong sometimes, and also that it's okay if they don't always agree with Watson. | /r/MGTOW | 24/05/18 05:39 AM |
| 7 | Blue Piller: "Everyone feels like being in love with someone has screwed them over at least once in their lives. I just hope he can realize this MGTOW bullshit isn't the answer before it's too late."Why in the world would they think that MGTOWs expected women to chase them for no reason, and never even tried to date? The thing that pushed me toward MGTOW was that I DID try, and either got very little response in return, or experiences that went nowhere or even turned out badly. It's like they can't accept that my experience DOES happen to guys, perhaps a LOT of guys. Would it turn their world upside-down if they had to acknowledge that, yes, perhaps dating isn't for everyone? Most guys natu… | /r/MGTOW | 24/05/18 05:08 AM |
| 17 | Chad hunting exampleI can remember taking a Greyhound bus when I was in college, and a woman around my age got on the bus at a stop. There were two seats open, one next to me, and one next to some other guy (also around my age). She picked the other guy, and (if I remember correctly) I think she even talked to him, so that tells you that it was probably a looks thing. It took a long time, but any real excitement over dating women has basically been forced out of me. I had to learn how to enjoy being by myself; now … | /r/MGTOW | 24/05/18 04:17 AM |
| 4 | They are entitled to it (the magic of online dating)You sure have some interesting stories about online dating. You know, I really had high hopes for online dating. I was a shy, busy guy, who didn't get to know a lot of people. But, with online dating, I could search for exactly the type of women that I would like to meet, and who were at least claiming to be single and looking to meet a guy. But it's all a big joke. The chances of dating anyone really, really attractive are not good (for a large percentage of guys anyway). If a guy gets to commu… | /r/MGTOW | 23/05/18 04:53 AM |
| 8 | Paul Joseph Watson Blasting MGTOW calling us (Men groping their own weiners) "fat losers", on his new video "The Truth About Incels"One other thing that may be affecting his opinion: he probably wants conservatives to win elections. For that purpose, he would not be helping his goal by risking offending women by being pro-MGTOW, or even being open-minded toward it. Honestly, women shouldn't be offended by MGTOW, because it is basically just people making the decisions that are the best for their own situation, but some people still seem to be offended. Maybe he just has to be against MGTOW publicly. Or it could be that he si… | /r/MGTOW | 22/05/18 05:22 AM |
| 6 | Paul Joseph Watson Blasting MGTOW calling us (Men groping their own weiners) "fat losers", on his new video "The Truth About Incels"One of the things he does is make pro-conservative opinion videos. Most of the time, his audience is going to like what he debates because it will be ideas that are commonly accepted among conservatives. The thing with MGTOW is that it doesn't fit perfectly in line with conservative views. But he has to take a side in his videos. If he's not MGTOW himself (and I'm guessing that he is not), then he's probably not going to take the MGTOW side. He's just WRONG on this issue. For one thing, since wh… | /r/MGTOW | 22/05/18 04:49 AM |
| 3 | What's wrong honey... You've not been yourself for a couple of weeks!People have this idea that love in a romantic relationship is unconditional, but that seems to be pretty rare. Getting a romantic relationship takes work, and keeping it also takes work. It's like people get married and think they are then all set. Nooooo, they shouldn't get married if they don't want the extra work -- it's not fair to themselves or the other person. Every other type of relationship has its limits too (although I would say typically not as demanding); if a person screws up badly… | /r/MGTOW | 21/05/18 02:25 PM |
| 4 | The plantation has taken notice.That quotation is so wrong. Many of us guys, even MGTOWs, started out wanting to get married and maybe have a family. A. One can be the good guy that society says one should be, and, if one isn't good-looking to women, there's a good chance that one isn't going to find the type of woman that one dreamed about marrying someday. B. Decline in pay and good jobs for working people, as well as a lack of belief in long-term job security, cuts a lot of guys out of being seen as "marriage material" by w… | /r/MGTOW | 21/05/18 05:02 AM |
| 4 | Shutting a bitch down at the bar last nightMy advice is avoid bars. I've hardly ever gone to them, and I've never felt like I missed out on anything. For one thing, much of the time, I can't hear people talk in those places. Second, when I was looking to date, I never had any dating success the few times I went to a bar. If I'm going to drink, I'll get one or two beers (it doesn't take much alcohol to relax me, because I rarely drink), I'll relax at the end of the day, watching a favorite TV show or reading, and that's my main (and rare)… | /r/MGTOW | 21/05/18 04:33 AM |
| 9 | MGTOW has reached the “knee” of the exponential curveThink how many guys can't find happiness in romantic relationships. It's just too difficult. All they have to be told is: "You don't have to do that stuff anymore." That's what MGTOW does. Then they'll hear about all the benefits, more freedom and control of your own life, you make all the decisions regarding your own money, etc., and I think it's an easy decision for many of them to join us. I think that's how this philosophy keeps spreading with very little organized effort. People didn't care… | /r/MGTOW | 20/05/18 04:06 AM |
| 2 | Meghan Markle - A picture says a 1000 wordsTo be fair, it's all a matter of degree. One could argue that all any of us needs is food and housing. Anything beyond that, we could all be giving away to help those who do not have those things. By this standard, homelessness and hunger could have been solved long ago, and countless money and resources have been wasted over the years on other stuff. | /r/MGTOW | 20/05/18 03:47 AM |
| 3 | Although i really like Nirvana. What do you think of Kurt? Is he a mangina icon? He was a feminist.I don't think you can really compare the 1990's to now. People were allowed to have a much broader range of opinions without being insulted so much by others. Whatever your political or social beliefs were back then, assuming they weren't offensive or extreme, weren't usually made that big of a deal of. Now people get bitter over what used to be normally discussed political issues. I remember the 90's well, and I don't remember ever hearing that Kurt was a feminist. If he indeed was, I don't thi… | /r/MGTOW | 19/05/18 03:24 AM |
| 3 | "The New Reddit"...So often, it seems like they overthink everything, trying to make it fancy. It doesn't improve the website much if at all, and sometimes I notice that it makes websites load more slowly and/or operate rather clunkily. If they make the website more difficult and annoying to use, then what was the point? | /r/MGTOW | 18/05/18 12:39 PM |
| 1 | Just my thoughts on this subProbably the main reason that I wound up MGTOW is years and years of my own dating experiences. Even taking into account the points that you are trying to make, that doesn't change my experiences of spending years of basically doing the best that I reasonably could to try to find a partner, and just totally getting poor results for my efforts. Now, a different guy may have better experiences. And so maybe such a guy can find a relationship that works for him. But that doesn't change the fact tha… | /r/MGTOW | 18/05/18 05:07 AM |
| 4 | Women Force Marriage on MenWhy does the woman saying the quote seem to think that men never have problems? On what planet does she live? I don't think that she could even begin to understand some of the challenges that I've had to go through in my life, and there's no doubt plenty of guys who have had way rougher lives than I have had. I mean, it appears that the point of her quote was to insult men anyway, but, even if that were her purpose, the insult seriously loses any weight when she's got stuff in there that doesn't… | /r/MGTOW | 17/05/18 04:52 AM |
| 2 | I finally feel enoughI know what it's like to want to find my dream woman so badly, and try and try to find that, and just keep failing and failing. Getting women to even be remotely interested in me was like trying to climb one of the tallest mountains, or trying to win an Olympic gold medal. I had all these things about me that were good and should have been impressive, but I would be trying to be a comedian and anything else that I could think of to try to entertain them, and the result was usually the woman show… | /r/MGTOW | 17/05/18 02:51 AM |
| 14 | RedditPolice: How do we stop MGTOW from spreading?Honestly, I don't think most MGTOW would want divorces made more difficult to get, or economics being used to force people to stay married to each other. Yes, it might lower the divorce rate, and yes, it might improve the dating market by encouraging women to consider dating men whom they otherwise wouldn't date. However, it becomes a forced situation that is not real freedom and happiness. Think how bad it is to be in a bad marriage and not be able to get out, because one can't afford to live o… | /r/MGTOW | 16/05/18 04:45 PM |
| 11 | RedditPolice: How do we stop MGTOW from spreading?By your line of thinking, no MGTOW would exist today because our dads would have had to have been MGTOW and would not have reproduced due to MGTOW. | /r/MGTOW | 16/05/18 02:01 PM |
| 1 | Can someone explain what its like to have a girlfriend...?I just realized from your post that I haven't watched much popular television since the 1980's, so I guess I am behind the times on TV. I don't think I've seen a single episode of any of the shows you just listed, even though I recognize that many of them are popular. I guess there are usually two or three shows a year that I might watch, and they often aren't the really well-known ones. I was thinking more about the 1980's TV show mentality -- it was always the guys who couldn't help but chase … | /r/MGTOW | 15/05/18 05:13 AM |
| 1 | Can someone explain what its like to have a girlfriend...?It's amazing how often it seems to follow the pattern of "great at first," then "horrible." A lot of the guys here discuss the woman cheating on them too. If you just watched TV, you'd think that it's mainly only guys who cheat. | /r/MGTOW | 15/05/18 04:27 AM |
| 5 | Woman can't find her own chad after wall, so she buys sperm from 6'2" college athleteMy "ex" refused to work -- for no good reason. I wanted her to work a job -- basically any job -- just so she could pay SOME of her share of our household's expenses. If my ex had gotten a job, and fixed her personal issues, I probably would have married her, having not found out about MGTOW back then. Then again, I believe she was only dating me because her problems prevented her from dating someone who was more attractive to her. | /r/MGTOW | 14/05/18 04:47 AM |
| 4 | More men are doing leg lengthening surgeryThe thing is, I'm guessing this costs tens of thousands of dollars, has significant recovery time, and a fair amount of health risks. I know four inches of height can mean a lot to some people, but still, it's only four inches. It's not like you get to go from 5'6" to 7'2", be in proportion, and instantly have a chance at being an athlete. It's pretty funny to think of the direction this could go. So, part of the problem is that the procedure takes some time, but imagine if science could just cl… | /r/MGTOW | 13/05/18 03:59 AM |
| 1 | exwife has a new boyfriendNo matter how you consider yourself to be, there likely very clear reasons why you aren't with your ex anymore. That's one thing that really helped me when I thought about my "ex": all the reasons that things didn't work out with her. My ex was attractive back when I dated her, and probably still is, and I did have some fun, memorable times with her -- I don't have to pretend those things aren't true. However, that being said, none of that was enough to overcome all the problems that my relation… | /r/MGTOW | 13/05/18 02:50 AM |
| 2 | The MGTOW movement grows every dayIt sounds like the article really trashes guys but doesn't understand what is actually going on. From my experiences, a guy is either considered super physically good-looking to women, or most of them aren't interested in him. This idea that a guy should be intelligent, highly educated, well-dressed, have many skills, know how to be polite, blah blah blah -- from what I've seen, none of that matters much if the guy isn't considered very good-looking. Also, if he is considered very good-looking, … | /r/MGTOW | 11/05/18 07:52 AM |
| 2 | Why you should never wear shoe lifts to impress womenSo much of the things that guys want, but can't change, about themselves are related to dating. To me, a big helpful part of MGTOW is being able to walk away from worrying about most of that stuff anymore. Yeah, some people do judge other people on appearance outside of dating, but I don't think it's anywhere near the same level. | /r/MGTOW | 11/05/18 03:57 AM |
| 1 | OMG! You haven't dated in 7 years? WTF?Yep, you have to figure out what you really want, and focus on that. It's my personality to put a lot of effort into my job. I think that I would be under terrible stress if I had a wife these days, while still trying to do just as well at my job. It would be so difficult. My parents were great parents to me when I was growing up. Guess what? Our family didn't have much money. Which was difficult sometimes, but my parents always had lots of time for their family. For them and their family, it wo… | /r/MGTOW | 11/05/18 03:14 AM |
| 1 | 28 this year and single with no childrenHey, I appreciate the positive words. However, if I sound disappointed, it's not really because I still want a romantic relationship; it's because I believe that what I wanted never reasonably existed for me. I already made an honest effort trying to date, for years and years, and it got nowhere close to working. Could I give up everything else that I like about my life, improve my dating qualities greatly, and possibly get married to someone attractive? Maybe. But this is what I mean by somethi… | /r/MGTOW | 08/05/18 05:47 AM |
| 1 | Every TV show & movie I watch these days promotes hookup culture, alcoholism, drug culture etc.The "Big Secrets" series by William Poundstone. | /r/MGTOW | 03/05/18 04:04 AM |
| 1 | Most modern media has become unbearableIt is cool for a person to learn what the latest things were before that person was born. It was the foundation that set the stage for everything later. A lot of the old entertainment is better than a lot of today's entertainment (see "The Twilight Zone," for example). There's a lot of great, great music from the 1950s through the 1980s, too. | /r/MGTOW | 03/05/18 03:50 AM |
| 3 | My Brother Lost His Cool Because I Am Not Married Like HimIt's sad, but I hear about stuff like this happening. The problem is that, for two people to get along, both people have to want to. If one of the people simply doesn't want to get along, there really just isn't anything that can be done about it, no matter how much better things would be if everyone got along. | /r/MGTOW | 03/05/18 12:18 AM |
| 4 | Chads are pissed that people are leaving America's BarsEven if "Chad" is still having a great time at the bars, why would that persuade me to go there? I'm not Chad. He can do what he wants, but I'm not going to spend time on activities that I think are a waste of time FOR ME and for my situation in life. | /r/MGTOW | 01/05/18 04:09 PM |
| 3 | Jordan Peterson sells out a show in Seattle. Seattle journalists freak out.The purpose of the mainstream political press appears to be to defend their friends and to work against those who are not their friends. Once they come across that way, the actual content of their stories doesn't really matter -- it becomes difficult to believe that you are getting any kind of accurate story. The main value of a mainstream press story these days is that it tells you what political side the news organization is on, and thus whether or not you want to believe or pay any attention … | /r/MGTOW | 01/05/18 03:42 PM |
| 2 | This is the main page of an actual UN campaign. I looked at it and said "FUCK YOU".Are you talking about that weird pimple thing next to his left eyebrow? Seriously, who has one of those? | /r/MGTOW | 30/04/18 06:39 AM |
| 7 | Went on a date after 1,5 years of monk modeI wonder if women are experiencing a noticeable change lately in the dating environment -- as in fewer guys excited about dating and romantic relationships. I don't meet very many people in my daily life, and I'm also probably the ugliest I've been in my entire life -- more out-of-shape and older -- I'm not the worst, but I was way better-looking in my twenties when it was basically impossible for me to date attractive women. Even so, I've had a couple of women seem like they were interested in … | /r/MGTOW | 30/04/18 06:24 AM |
| 2 | MGTOW living the dream3thantrapb3rry wrote: I'm not saying he has to find a woman to be in a relationship with at all, I'm honestly sorry if that wasn't clear. I'm all for people choosing to spend their lives single or married, with or without kids, or whatever makes them happiest. I don't think there is any right or wrong way, some people are happier in a relationship or some are conditioned to believe that's the only way to be truly happy, and others are happier on their own. I just don't want the other guy to thin… | /r/MGTOW | 29/04/18 08:54 PM |
| 2 | NFL Draft - The CuckingHow many players on any team are actually FROM that team's region? Even on the top college level? | /r/MGTOW | 28/04/18 05:29 AM |
| 2 | Rachel Maddow, Maria Shriver and longtime NBC correspondent Andrea Mitchell along with 61 other women sign letter of support for Tom BrokawIsn't one of them married to Alan Greenspan? | /r/MGTOW | 28/04/18 05:17 AM |
| 1 | I'm tired of seeing all these fat peopleI think I can give you a good understanding about being fat because, not only am I fat, but I have also been really skinny when I was in my early twenties. I have also been fat, then was able to lose weight and get really skinny again, and then got fat again. So I know a lot about how to be skinny and how to be fat. First of all, I truly believe there is a strong biological component to weight. The reason I believe this is that I did basically NOTHING to stay in shape when I was in my early twen… | /r/MGTOW | 28/04/18 04:33 AM |
| 7 | It has happened before, it will happen againIf I remember correctly, even with no mutations, a person only passes basically half their DNA to their kid. So grandkid has 1/4 of the DNA, great grandkid has 1/8 of the DNA, and great great grandkid has 1/16 of the DNA. The generation beyond that is a mix of 32 people from the original person's generation -- not much like any one of those people anymore, I assume. And that's assuming that each generation has at least one kid. If none of the grandkids have kids, then that's the end of passing o… | /r/MGTOW | 27/04/18 06:09 AM |
| 2 | Google Honors Woman "Athlete" Nobody Has Ever Heard Of Today with their DoodleMaybe it was either that or they would have had to do a late Easter doodle? | /r/MGTOW | 26/04/18 10:36 PM |
| 2 | The Principle of Scarcity - How Tinder DESTROYED dating for men.A regular guy pretty much has to not date when he is in his forties and fifties, just to protest the unfairness of the dating system, particularly for back when he was in his twenties and thirties. | /r/MGTOW | 25/04/18 05:04 AM |
| 1 | Reason 782 to go MGTOW: Watching Daytime TV in the mechanic’s waiting room...If I remember correctly, wasn't one of those daytime talk shows caught, years ago, taking money in return for talking about a type of soup, without actually letting the audience know that it was a paid advertisement? Does anyone remember if this happened? Aside from that, I've been unfortunate enough to see (and hear about) some of what is said on some of those daytime talk shows. Especially during election season, it seemed like really really bad propaganda. I mean, people on those shows were s… | /r/MGTOW | 25/04/18 04:24 AM |
| 11 | Men Are Withdrawing From Courtship."attraction is not negotiable" is one of the first and most useful things that I learned when I started reading about MGTOW. It just explains so much. I was one of these guys that tried online dating and thought that if I online chatted with a woman enough, and entertained her every day by making her laugh, that that would turn into dates and then romantic relationships. Most of the time, I didn't even get to chat level with those women, but a few times I got some chat friends that went for MONT… | /r/MGTOW | 23/04/18 05:14 AM |
| 8 | Lone wolf?I think it depends on your personality. For me, I've got about four close friends or relatives, then maybe fifteen other people (friends, relatives, work, etc.) who are not as close but whom I know and talk with from time to time. Beyond that, my social group becomes pretty empty. In my view, I'd rather have a few people whom I have really strong friendships with than tons of people that I have to try to keep updated with. Outside of my work, I like to have an open, flexible schedule, so I can u… | /r/MGTOW | 22/04/18 08:50 PM |
| 13 | Brothers girlfriend gets tumor, he helps her through, then she dumps himThis is such a classic example of a pro-MGTOW story that there should be a permanent link to it, and similar stories. Guys need to see that the same patterns happen over and over again, to different guys, and with different women. One of my ex's tried to communicate with me about a year after the breakup. Of course, I didn't respond. I also found out, from other sources, that she was experiencing some more serious personal problems -- my guess is that her current guy had just dumped her because … | /r/MGTOW | 22/04/18 03:50 PM |
| 2 | Good Simps Project is writing about MGTOW. Apparently we are "lost men".I didn't watch the video (or whatever it was) in the original post, so I'm just basing my opinion here on people's comments here that I read. I think it comes down to that you have to provide a reward for men to give up everything they are being asked to give up for modern romantic relationships. From my experiences, a lot of the women don't really seem to be attracted to a lot of the men. I don't see any way of fixing this, unless society pays to use modern technology (cosmetic surgery, etc.) t… | /r/MGTOW | 21/04/18 03:23 AM |
| 1 | Should I go to Prom?I'd be really interested in hearing how your own parents/relatives react towards you GYOW. I can honestly say mine have reacted badly. My family is pretty traditional, but they've never pushed myself or other relatives into dating or getting married. As far as MGTOW, I don't give the philosophy a name when discussing it with relatives. It's more like, I just say that I think the dating world is broken, and that I tried dating and have had enough of it. If one calls it MGTOW, then the first thing… | /r/MGTOW | 20/04/18 02:43 PM |
| 2 | Should I go to Prom?I didn't go to my high school prom (decades ago), and I've never felt that I missed out on anything. I think it's important to note here how the prom decision probably differs GREATLY among different people. Someone would have had to PAY ME at least $2000 to get me to go to my prom back then. I had a rough time in high school, and was frustrated and miserable much of the time. Especially my senior year -- at that point, I was pretty much avoiding most social communication at school -- each day, … | /r/MGTOW | 20/04/18 04:10 AM |
| 4 | "I wish my granddaughters could find a man like you"My view is that parents and grandparents want their adult descendants to marry someone who is a good, practical choice. This is what most people would choose for themselves if they weren't blinded by physical attraction. Physical attraction messes everything up and seems to overrule everything else, in most cases. So, a woman's grandma may think that a guy is a great choice, but that doesn't mean that the woman wouldn't ignore him in favor of Chaddy McChadChad. I'm not saying that the original p… | /r/MGTOW | 16/04/18 09:03 AM |
| 2 | People think I'm gayDon't let that get to you. You go ahead and make the best decisions for YOU, and make correct, good decisions in life. Don't let it make you think that there aren't a lot of good people in the world. However, it always seems like there are a certain number of humans who make sure to disappoint us with their behavior. Avoid these people as much as you can. Sometimes you can't, and then you just have to deal with being around them for a while. Probably the best thing to do is work toward getting a… | /r/MGTOW | 16/04/18 04:47 AM |
| 3 | Netflix Lost in Space is a total cuckfestI don't know which actors have had cosmetic surgery, but I wouldn't doubt if it has been a lot of them. If things are just going to be artificial anyway, I wonder how far we are from Hollywood just computer-generating all the actors in movies, right down to their voices. Think about it: A director could have exactly the actor that they wish existed for a particular part, instead of simply the "closest" actor that they could find to that. And think of the money that they could save on paying tale… | /r/MGTOW | 15/04/18 09:25 PM |
| 2 | Netflix Lost in Space is a total cuckfestWith online, I don't think that it's ever been so easy and CHEAP to find and read just about any used book that you would want. Yeah, a good used textbook is still going to cost a bit, but think how many hours it takes to fully study a big textbook. The cost per hour for this form of entertainment is extremely low, and you can actually learn things and become a much more skilled person. If you just need something to do to fill your free time, I don't know that it's ever been cheaper to do that -… | /r/MGTOW | 15/04/18 08:49 PM |
| 2 | Have any of you ever found out you were the “other” guy/ plan b?One of my ex's, I'm about as sure as I can be that she cheated, without actually having seen her on a date with another guy during that time. I have never cheated in a romantic relationship, nor do I think that I ever would. So, I thought that one ex was just a rare case (at first). Since following this MGTOW group, I cannot believe how common that cheating by women seems to be (or simply bouncing between dating multiple guys, sometimes secretly, sometimes dating multiple guys during the same ti… | /r/MGTOW | 08/04/18 06:49 AM |
| 1 | Why are American Women So Dishonest About What They Find Attractive?Back when I used to do online dating, I'd ask the women if they liked what I looked like in my photos. Almost never did they say anything other than that I looked good. But at the same time, I'd get a really low response rate to my emails in online dating, and many times women would quit communicating pretty soon even if they did write back. Clearly, if I were a good-looking guy, like they said, then they would have kept communicating, right? Let's think about it: It takes a pretty rough person … | /r/MGTOW | 08/04/18 04:48 AM |
| 4 | why do old ladies take college classes meant for young adultsThe reason that college isn't always fun when you are in your twenties is because there is pressure to actually do the work and pass the classes. However, if you are already retired and just taking college classes for fun, I imagine that you don't actually have to do the work if you don't feel like it. In fact, I assume that you could just quit going to class halfway through the semester if you'd rather watch some reruns on TV for the rest of the semester. If they fail the class, what's the poin… | /r/MGTOW | 07/04/18 05:50 AM |
| 2 | Asian Canadian Female, 29 "I'm done going back to men who treat me like I'm disposable. Onto the next one I guess"I find that, now that I've been MGTOW for a while, it just seems like SO MUCH WORK to ever get back into dating again. It's not laziness -- it's just this feeling that I don't need to be in a romantic relationship, and I remember how much effort it used to be, just to fail most of the time, and I just think, why would I ever waste that much energy to try that again... | /r/MGTOW | 07/04/18 05:13 AM |
| 3 | Getting eyed fucked and after called gay.Many people in college are just good, normal people. However, just like other places in society, a certain percentage of people in college have something wrong with them personality-wise. Like, they can't even mind their own business and leave someone alone who isn't bothering them. The same garbage existed when I was in college. In my view, all that you can do is focus on why you are there -- studying. If you need some friends, find other students who want to focus on their grades, and everyone… | /r/MGTOW | 07/04/18 04:44 AM |
| 2 | Every girl that is at best a 3/10 and not fat has a collection of beta orbiters at all timesjxnnshxr47 wrote: I came to this subreddit from a YouTube video and I must say y'all are absurd with your over generalizations and putting yourselves on a pedestal. Talking about 'Chads' and thinking all women have the highest of unattainable standards. It sounds like maybe you just browsed this group really quickly. The chances are pretty good that a person is not going to really understand this group after a couple of hours of reading. Depending on your own experiences, it might take weeks, or… | /r/MGTOW | 06/04/18 10:56 AM |
| 5 | Y'all are just a bunch of virgin losersAh yes, that is a good point that others not in the conversation can benefit. I was not considering the "audience." | /r/MGTOW | 05/04/18 05:04 AM |
| 31 | 28 this year and single with no childrenI'm middle-aged, and if you just keep working toward your goals, and you avoid too many bad decisions and don't have bad luck, things can just keep getting better and better. I have been all over the world, and am continuing to go to new places. Not just that, but I have had amazing experiences in life -- I could make a list, and it would be a good list -- I've gotten to do so many things that I never would have expected, when I was younger. I do not believe that much of that would have been pos… | /r/MGTOW | 05/04/18 04:32 AM |
| 9 | Y'all are just a bunch of virgin losersIt's worth nothing that, typically, if someone is willing to rudely argue with one, it's pretty likely that they will never let themselves be persuaded by one's own arguments back. So why even bother arguing with them. If they behaved respectfully toward the person, they would be having a polite discussion to begin with, not a rude argument. | /r/MGTOW | 05/04/18 03:46 AM |
| 1 | We should add intermittent fasting as suggested subs.How do you fast without, sooner or later, getting sudden irresistible hunger and then eating a whole pizza? Also, doesn't blood sugar go really low, making one just want to sleep and/or not have any brain power? How do people that fast avoid these things, and have energy to work a job while fasting, etc.? What is the secret? | /r/MGTOW | 31/03/18 03:37 AM |
| 2 | After years in a relationship i’ve gone MGTOWA lot of visitors here just see the posts where guys are really upset, and they focus on that. They don't think about why the guys are upset. If you are actually curious to understand, focus on the stories that people tell about things that happened to them -- divorces, years of wasting time failing at dating, women cheating on them, and so on. I regularly say on here that I spent 15 years or so on dating, to meet women who were barely interested in me (most of the time I was just ignored though… | /r/MGTOW | 31/03/18 02:57 AM |
| 2 | After years in a relationship i’ve gone MGTOWprintitfast wrote: I am seriously so sad while reading these posts. I had no idea men felt like this. I don't even know... You've probably never heard about this sort of thing because mainstream media doesn't cover it honestly. On the rare occasion that MGTOW is mentioned, it is to rip on guys who are MGTOW, and to mislead people about what MGTOW is, or why guys are MGTOW. It doesn't fit what the mainstream wants people to think about men. They don't want people to care about men, to value every… | /r/MGTOW | 31/03/18 02:31 AM |
| 3 | After years in a relationship i’ve gone MGTOWprintitfast wrote: hey. wasting time? :( edit: lol I somehow stumbled into man land and didn't notice. Carry on... It's not our faults. Many (if not most) of us started out being exactly the way that society told us that women wanted us to act. In many (if not most) cases, not only was there little or no reward, but instead guys got bad experience after bad experience with dating and romantic relationships. Then groups like this started forming online, and it was discovered that such experiences… | /r/MGTOW | 31/03/18 02:09 AM |
| 5 | Mainstream media tries to shame MGTOWs, calling them "eternal bachelors"I have never heard of any of those websites until I read your comment. How many websites are there like those? Who goes to all those places? Why is one any better than another? | /r/MGTOW | 30/03/18 02:31 PM |
| 1 | Just how much money can you spend on a woman in a lifetime ? How much would you save being a mgtow ?The thing is, what do a lot of guys get for all that work? It seems like, for all that work to make sense, you'd have to be married to one of the most beautiful women that you had ever met, with a near-perfect personality, and with almost no chance of divorce. If I did all that work and actually got married, realistically, at best, I would probably be barely attracted to the woman (almost everyone I'm attracted to is basically chasing the "Chads"), and these days, the chances always seem signifi… | /r/MGTOW | 30/03/18 05:01 AM |
| 28 | MGTOW Knowledge Spreading Like WildfireI'm pretty sure that a large percentage of the women either are not attracted to, or are not very attracted to, a large percentage of the guys. In many cases, I don't think there's much that a guy can do to change that. So why bother dating? | /r/MGTOW | 30/03/18 02:20 AM |
| 1 | Rollo TomassiI read a lot of "The Rationale Male" when I first started following this MGTOW group. I found it to be a really good book for understanding my past dating and romantic relationship experiences. I think that it was the first book that I ever got that was meant for the men's community online. This book is gold compared to the mainstream dating books that I read before -- those were full of false optimism and empty hopes. Now, some would argue that the dating advice provided in books like "The Rati… | /r/MGTOW | 29/03/18 03:10 AM |
| 2 | What other lies have society been telling us?I've thought that it really doesn't make sense, especially for a MGTOW, to have any more expensive house than they really need (well, unless you have so much money that you don't really care if you ever lose a lot of money). Preferably, if you could get your possessions down to living in a motor home, and find places to park cheaply and legally, that would seem to be the best bet. People who buy an expensive home -- it's that much more money to possibly lose. Plus, what happens if you get a craz… | /r/MGTOW | 28/03/18 03:01 AM |
| 8 | [32F] "I wanted to fuck around on my boyfriend, so I suggested we have sex with other people and he left me. Now, I've wasted my prime years on a commitment I pulled the plug on."To your advice, I think a lot of guys here would say, "Been there, done that." I wasted 15 years of my life on failed dating experiences -- would you want me to waste 15 more years? I gave more than enough of a chance to dating; for me, I've reached the conclusion that there is just nobody for me, that I would want to marry, that would also be good for me and that would like me. Maybe for some other guys it is different, but from what I see from this group, there seem to be many many guys in the… | /r/MGTOW | 25/03/18 07:30 PM |
| 4 | 29 year old woman who has not been able to get a committed relationship for 9 years continues to wonder why.I have a really difficult time believing that she dates down and yet can't find anyone interested in a serious romantic relationship. Also, who ever heard of guys finding a woman too physically attractive to marry? Maybe a Chad, but a non-Chad, non-MGTOW guy? Come on now! | /r/MGTOW | 25/03/18 08:27 AM |
| 5 | A simple reason why NOT to get into serious relationships.If you are going to go into a MGTOW group and rip on MGTOW, you should spend some time understanding what it is you are ripping on, first. MGTOW doesn't mean that you don't have family and friends. You can even date, if you want to. You can have lots of friends, and go to friends' parties all the time, if you want to. About the only rule that is mostly agreed upon is that one doesn't marry, and also usually that one doesn't live together with another person, romantically. Some people like peace … | /r/MGTOW | 25/03/18 05:20 AM |
| 2 | A simple reason why NOT to get into serious relationships.Look at how many really old people spend their final days in a nursing home. I don't see how there's any guarantee to prevent that, unless one has a very trusted person (not necessarily a relative) to manage their care outside of a nursing home, along with lots of money saved to pay for that care. Even if someone has a spouse who would like to help, sometimes they are just not physically able to care for the person, for example, help transfer the person into and out of a wheelchair. It's all ver… | /r/MGTOW | 25/03/18 05:05 AM |
| 4 | A simple reason why NOT to get into serious relationships.What makes you think that dating means that a person won't someday still be lonely...and maybe a whole lot worse off than if they dated. A lot of the guys on this group dated before they went MGTOW...it's not like they didn't give it a try...it's common to read on this group that a guy was driven to MGTOW by dating/romantic-relationship experiences. I tried to date for about 15 years. Most of the time, I got ignored. Sometimes, the women would talk to me for a while, but it would typically go no… | /r/MGTOW | 25/03/18 04:50 AM |
| 3 | "Don't stop dating other men until he proposes" - says post-wall "Relationship Coach"Even when I dated, I don't think that I would EVER have proposed while the woman was still dating other guys. That means the romantic relationship isn't serious. It would be really weird to propose at that point. This is almost like those couples that keep dating other people while married. I thought that was NOT being married. The fact that we have this stuff being talked about, apparently seriously, just shows how far gone the whole romantic relationship world is. | /r/MGTOW | 24/03/18 01:28 AM |
| 9 | I'm so sorry you guys have been so attacked. And i can imagine how you feel. I know you do that mgtow thing now. But that's not the answer either.I don't think there's any way to address MGTOW that would ever realistically happen. A speech just doesn't make much difference. How about going back in time to when I was in my twenties, and changing society, so that someone like me was valued back then? But that can't be done. How do they make up to all the guys who had to live their twenties and thirties completely differently from what their dreams were -- because the romantic relationship world turned out to be just not what they were told … | /r/MGTOW | 23/03/18 02:07 AM |
| 8 | Is Jimmy Kimmel a fraud?I used to think he was funny, but I started turning his show off quite a while ago. It just seemed like pro-Democrat propaganda. I don't have an issue with people having different views, but I DO have an issue with one view being misrepresented as the ONLY view that one should have -- and I saw this happening across much of the mainstream. Now it's one thing if the entire mainstream is against something that is very wrong. But that is not what was happening here. The mainstream would not make mu… | /r/MGTOW | 22/03/18 05:27 AM |
| 2 | The Coming Crash as Men Go Their Own WayI'm sorry to the author of that if he meant well by it, but it seems just totally out-of-touch to me, especially with regards to my situation. I have a much higher income than a good share of people, maybe 80%? I have NEVER been married, and have had very few serious romantic relationships. How does he explain that? In fact, I believe that I would be making LESS money now if I had gotten married and had a family when I was in my twenties, because I would have had much less time to work toward on… | /r/MGTOW | 22/03/18 04:48 AM |
| 1 | There’s nothing wrong with you...I could afford the MORTGAGE on a pretty nice home in my geographic region, as well as the CAR PAYMENT on quite a nice new car. When I was in my twenties, I didn't see why such things would matter much in attracting women. After all, those are objects -- they aren't the guy. After reading this group for I while, it does seem like guys that have those things are more likely to attract at least some of the women. It also helps explain why I've never been very successful with attracting women. I've … | /r/MGTOW | 20/03/18 04:51 PM |
| 1 | I got asked out yesterday.I'll be pretty surprised if I start getting contacted by women who knew me in the past, when I am in my fifties. For one thing, I'm sure that I look much worse than when I was in my twenties. It really would be sad if women really only started taking an interest in me long after I had moved on from dating. For as few people that I talk to on a regular basis, even as "average" (or worse) as I look, I have still gotten some indications of interest from a few women in the past couple of years. It's… | /r/MGTOW | 20/03/18 05:32 AM |
| 3 | Oh my god how is this the first time I am just finding this community?You know, the whole idea of being realistically "limited" in the dating world, no matter what one would "realistically" do (for example no 50,000 dollars of cosmetic surgery), is kind of sad to realize (at first anyway). But what is probably much sadder is trying and trying, only to fail repeatedly, and never reaching that conclusion. | /r/MGTOW | 19/03/18 06:14 AM |
| 4 | So I was told I'm not living life's purpose...Remember, this group is kind of like one of those bubbles. If you read this group a lot, you might forget that there are still lots of people out there who don't think the MGTOW way. I think I know what the guy in the original post is getting at. He might have been raised with traditional values. About two generations ago, lots of people in the U.S. were living the classic "American Dream," and even an average person could have that. You could get a factory job right out of high school, or a col… | /r/MGTOW | 19/03/18 04:52 AM |
| 8 | Oh my god how is this the first time I am just finding this community?I used to think that dating was all about effort. If I just tried even more, and became a better and better person, sooner or later I'd find my dream woman. Well, I found that, at least for me, that just didn't work. I believe that, for a normal amount of resources to help one improve, each guy has a certain ceiling for attracting women. My ceiling is not particularly high! I'm not interested in spending tens of thousands of dollars on things like cosmetic surgery, so, no matter how much effort … | /r/MGTOW | 19/03/18 04:04 AM |
| 2 | Prince decides to piss away 15 millionWho knows what some of these famous people in their forties would look like without makeup. Think about this: Look how unwrinkled they can make many of them in their 50's look on television and movies. My guess is that people would be pretty shocked at how a lot of these people look with no makeup. In fact, I'm pretty sure that pictures like that get out to the public from time to time. | /r/MGTOW | 18/03/18 12:17 PM |
| 1 | Women in their 30's are fucked...I enjoy traveling, and I like to mention places where I've been, but it's really not an accomplishment. It basically just means that one had the opportunity to spend the money to go to those places. I've also noted that it really doesn't help attract women, except that it will make some of them think that you have some money that can be spent on them. But if the woman is good-looking and the guy is not good-looking, travel does not seem to make much difference in attracting women. There is just … | /r/MGTOW | 18/03/18 11:54 AM |
| 2 | I've now had 4 different male co-workers from different jobs throughout my life tell me not to get a girl pregnant and do NOT get married.The best advice I heard from married men was, if you're over forty there is absolutely no reason to get married. If I believed that a good romantic relationship could be possible for me, I imagine the best time would have been college or otherwise in my twenties. Even though I didn't have much money back then, it could have been so much fun doing the typical simple activities that people do for fun in their twenties, the fun, the optimism, so many hopes and dreams for the future, the seriousness… | /r/MGTOW | 18/03/18 04:00 AM |
| 1 | Parent company of Jared's, Kay Jewelers, Zales to close 200 storesI wonder how common it is for a jewelry store to sell a diamond, then buy it back when the romantic relationship fails, then sell it again, then buy it back, and so on... | /r/MGTOW | 18/03/18 03:42 AM |
| 1 | Fuck this shit. My gf cheated on me.I hope it works out for you. I am not one to tell people not to get married because you can find many examples of long-term marriages where the couple says they are happy. Some people on this group seem to believe that MGTOW is best for every guy, but I don't agree with that part of it because we are all different people, and, again, it's not that hard to find couples in long-term happy marriages. One thing that I think that outsiders don't realize about this group is that many of us used to be … | /r/MGTOW | 17/03/18 12:53 AM |
| 1 | Fuck this shit. My gf cheated on me.Honestly a much more thought out reply than I expected to get. First, a question though. If you spend any amount of time here, you'll discover that this is one of the most diverse communities that you will find on Reddit. I have seen posts on here from countries that I didn't even know would use Reddit. We also have all types of people: rich, poor, working-class, lower middle-class, upper middle-class, just about every kind of background that you can imagine. People who attract women easily, and… | /r/MGTOW | 16/03/18 06:07 PM |
| 1 | Fuck this shit. My gf cheated on me.Well, you're going to see a fair amount of upset guys on here that got out of bad romantic relationships. I don't agree with the ones that blame all women, but I think they have gone through a very bad situation in many cases and are upset. I agree with you about not blaming all women for troubles with romantic relationships. I have had very positive experiences with some women in non-dating situations. As far as dating situations, I gave up on that as being pointless, but I don't blame women fo… | /r/MGTOW | 16/03/18 09:51 AM |
| 9 | Heard on my local radio station that its "break up season" for couples...It's interesting to imagine the two of you in the reverse situation. Why is she the one who gets to ignore you all week while she is on Spring Break, and you are the one who has to be upset wondering what is going on? And then why are you the one who had to ignore what happened? Why are guys expected to try so hard to have romantic relationships (unless the guy is considered really good-looking by women), while women get to treat so many men like they are invisible, no matter how hard the guy is… | /r/MGTOW | 16/03/18 08:37 AM |
| 1 | Is Hillary Clinton likely to pass away this year?All signs currently point to Oprah being their likely candidate. They make it so obvious when they are building someone up. It's like booking a pro wrestler to build them up to become champion. It would be interesting if Hillary runs again, and we see Oprah debating Hillary. Trump and Oprah debating would be golden moments. | /r/MGTOW | 15/03/18 09:37 AM |
| 8 | An Update to BBC contacting BRITISHMGTOW for possible documentaryI'm not saying to do this, but I wonder what would happen if you directed her to this group to ask her questions to this group. She'd have thirty different people answering her questions in thirty different ways (which is more accurate of MGTOW which encourages guys to follow their own direction), and there'd be no individual person to make look bad, if that is what the purpose of the program is. It would be an interesting topic to read. That being said, she could easily just pick out whatever w… | /r/MGTOW | 13/03/18 01:44 PM |
| 1 | 50,000 SubscribersScummyguys wrote: Just know that some of those people are women, here to watch you guys be emotionally underdeveloped. Honestly, that sounds like something that you heard from someone who doesn't understand MGTOW. A lot of guys here used to do all the things that they were told that they were supposed to do, to try to date and marry. And they just kept getting disappointment and/or bad experiences in return. So they walked away from all that. Wouldn't you, in their situation? Some of it is that … | /r/MGTOW | 12/03/18 06:40 AM |
| 2 | Men going their own way (from everything including freedom?!)Keep in mind that someone trying to organize a peaceful pro-MGTOW-type protest is very likely trying to do something positive. A lot of people believe that that is an important part of bringing about positive change. It's not like I'm an expert on the subject either, but I was just bringing up some of the possible difficulties that such a protest might have to deal with. I'm guessing that MGTOW is not a philosophy that you can expect mainstream media to treat fairly or with an open mind. It's re… | /r/MGTOW | 08/03/18 12:59 AM |
| 8 | Men going their own way (from everything including freedom?!)Here's the thing about public protests these days, from what I have read, and heard about: It is true that public protests are kind of a democratic tradition. However, it seems that society has gotten really good at minimizing the effect of any protests that it doesn't want to "catch on." For example, mainstream media can simply not report on a protest, or even characterize it negatively as something that it is not. They can film a protest to make it look smaller than it is, maybe they can then … | /r/MGTOW | 07/03/18 02:05 PM |
| 18 | Woman laughs at the thought of spending the night with a beta after accidentally propositioning him.Here's a story: When I was in college, I was basically invisible to almost all women. I really worked hard on my studies, but I was a really lonely guy for especially a couple of my college years, before I found some friends. It would have really made me feel better if an attractive woman at my college back then had gone out of her way to get to know me and date me -- ha ha, like that would have happened. If there's one thing I've noticed from my dating years, it's that most women all seem to li… | /r/MGTOW | 07/03/18 06:12 AM |
| 1 | "Trying so hard to prove she's feminist, she forgot the apostrophe!" Emma Watson {Hermione Granger} is SAVAGED on Twitter after displaying her massive, grammatically-incorrect 'Time’s Up' tattoo at the Oscars.Any idea why she got that role then? There had to be hundreds of actors all trying for it. | /r/MGTOW | 07/03/18 05:24 AM |
| 1 | "Trying so hard to prove she's feminist, she forgot the apostrophe!" Emma Watson {Hermione Granger} is SAVAGED on Twitter after displaying her massive, grammatically-incorrect 'Time’s Up' tattoo at the Oscars.I guess that I figured that she would have been given the best academic education that money can buy, with teachers paid just to make sure that the information was put into her brain as directly and with as little work from her as possible. Also, while I realize that just about anyone could probably star in a movie if Hollywood wanted them to, to actually be picked for a major role in a series of movies, out of many other people that would want the role, I imagine that one has to be able to memo… | /r/MGTOW | 06/03/18 04:13 PM |
| 1 | "Trying so hard to prove she's feminist, she forgot the apostrophe!" Emma Watson {Hermione Granger} is SAVAGED on Twitter after displaying her massive, grammatically-incorrect 'Time’s Up' tattoo at the Oscars.How could she have the place that she has in our society and not immediately notice that "Time's Up" was missing an apostrophe? | /r/MGTOW | 06/03/18 06:52 AM |
| 1 | "Trying so hard to prove she's feminist, she forgot the apostrophe!" Emma Watson {Hermione Granger} is SAVAGED on Twitter after displaying her massive, grammatically-incorrect 'Time’s Up' tattoo at the Oscars.Also, how difficult would it be to tattoo in an apostrophe? In the meantime, she could have even drawn it in with makeup. What do you think the chances are that she didn't fix it because she didn't even notice the mistake? | /r/MGTOW | 06/03/18 05:39 AM |
| 1 | I walked away from MGTOW. The lesson repeated.She would communicate with guys for the purpose of looking to date them. That was maybe the most obvious one. In addition, I'd find her talking to people I didn't know at unusual times, and she never had a very good excuse for who it was. She already had a new guy ready almost immediately after our relationship finished. I was gone a lot for work, and this is just stuff I noticed without even trying. She could easily have cheated without me even knowing about it. There's also a lot more I could … | /r/MGTOW | 05/03/18 10:13 PM |
| 2 | I walked away from MGTOW. The lesson repeated.At least for me, there really isn't any point in dating. I haven't been in any serious romantic relationships since about 2009, although it took a few years after that before I basically quit seriously looking. It helps that online dating is so ridiculously impossible, and I'm not a particularly good-looking guy (especially these days). My life isn't perfect, but my life has improved in many significant ways since no longer dating. Money especially. I think that I needed the romantic disappointm… | /r/MGTOW | 05/03/18 07:27 AM |
| 1 | I walked away from MGTOW. The lesson repeated.I'll add that I do not think you will find very many people who will disagree with the idea that humans are not perfect. | /r/MGTOW | 05/03/18 07:07 AM |
| 4 | I walked away from MGTOW. The lesson repeated.I agree with you in that I just will not accept cheating as some normal part of dating and even marriage. I'm pretty sure that I have heard of studies that claimed that it was quite common even decades ago. But there is a difference between acknowledging that something is common, and being okay with it. I am almost certain that my "ex," in my most serious romantic relationship ever, cheated on me, maybe a whole lot of times. The more I read this group, the more that I realize that I have probabl… | /r/MGTOW | 05/03/18 06:22 AM |
| 2 | Female nature is global, regardless, American women are the worst. Share your experiences with foreign woman brieflyThink about how impossible it is for a lot of guys to even date an attractive woman, then read your story of what can happen when a guy actually finds a romantic relationship -- and it's not difficult to find stories like yours, either. The whole dating system just seems so hopelessly broken. Why would most guys even bother trying anymore? | /r/MGTOW | 04/03/18 07:35 PM |
| 1 | After 27 years, wall street's charging bull statue will be taken down, because feminismI have heard that there is a forest not too far from the town where I live, and there are supposedly LOTS of homeless people that all live in that forest together. Like, what the heck? Is this the middle ages? It's wild to think that, these days, in a developed country, people just find a forest area where it doesn't look like anyone is around, and they start camping. I guess they figure why pay rent if they can't get a good job. I lived in this one city and was walking to the grocery store. I t… | /r/MGTOW | 03/03/18 06:55 AM |
| 1 | There should be a special celebration when we reach 50,000 subscribers...It would break the internet. No, I think it would be golden! For example, you know how people like to have their privacy on here? So, I bet a lot of the singing would be digitally altered or robot voices of different types. So you'd have all these voices, with lots of weird and/or robot voices, singing about avoiding bad divorces, having time to do guy stuff, talking about dating horror stories, etc. It would be an incredible moment in music history. Seriously, it would! There would be nothing e… | /r/MGTOW | 28/02/18 07:15 AM |
| 4 | The 2020s will be interesting for MGTOWDo you think that at least the price of land will go way down? What about wealth per person increasing through inheritance? Maybe less environmental regulation needed due to less strain on the environment? It can't be all bad, right? | /r/MGTOW | 23/02/18 01:39 PM |
| 1 | Tinder a place of mockery and fun for WomenI really don't know much about what the incels group was, so I can't really comment on that. As for how appearance-focused dating is, I think that society has a really inconsistent way of talking about it. For example, it seems to still be okay for everyone to make a big deal over how "beautiful" some actress is. Yet, they'll also throw in messages that try to get away from narrow definitions of beauty. In the dating world, I think that women at least used to appreciate being told that they are … | /r/MGTOW | 18/02/18 07:38 AM |
| 17 | Tinder a place of mockery and fun for WomenI did online dating for around 15 years, from around age 20 to around age 35. So, I know what I am talking about. I'm sorry to tell you, but dating seems to be physical appearance above all else. That's the thing I am average or below-average in. I have a lot of great things about me other than that -- that never made much of a difference in dating. When people say that they are with their partner because they are smart, funny, caring -- that may be true, but typically they have to find their pa… | /r/MGTOW | 17/02/18 05:14 PM |
| 1 | Official MGTOW mascot?!I thought the official MGTOW mascot was that road sign. | /r/MGTOW | 16/02/18 08:31 AM |
| 1 | Anyone else on here think Disney is a weaponization of film?Old-time Disney movies seem to be normal entertainment. I think they are basically just cartoon movie versions of traditional fairy tales. For traditional fairy tales to be a conspiracy theory, that would have to be some really old and complicated conspiracy theory. The best explanation that I've heard for why the whole marriage experience is breaking down for guys is as follows: Men seem to be naturally attracted to a higher percentage of women, than women are to guys. However, we used to have … | /r/MGTOW | 16/02/18 08:21 AM |
| 2 | 90% of women have nothing to give that is worth the effortThis sort of thing doesn't get talked about much compared to how important it is -- and it applies to BOTH men and woman. A guy should first think of a woman that he wants to date (or at least wanted to date at some point in time). Then he should imagine the exact same woman, except that she now has the ugliest appearance that he can imagine. Now that guy should consider: Would he still want to date her? This is maybe THE fundamental failure of the dating world. Attraction seems to be pretty muc… | /r/MGTOW | 16/02/18 06:14 AM |
| 6 | About the whole Trump paying off his wifeWhen I see anything about Trump in mainstream media, I typically assume that it's not the whole story, and maybe not even true. Just on the face of it, it's really hard to believe that mainstream media doesn't have a goal to do propaganda against Trump. Just look at the pattern of how they treat him in their news. Sometimes, it's almost like watching political ads for the Democratic Party. | /r/MGTOW | 15/02/18 04:05 PM |
| 5 | Looking back through old photosI was just going to post that the original poster should find some family photos from the 1960's. That was before my time, but whenever I see family photos from back then, it looks like the best time to live. I guess it looked like a world designed for people, and where anyone could have a family that they were happy with (whether or not that was actually the case for everyone). All kinds of cultural stuff was happening back then (TV, music, and so on), but it doesn't seem like it took away from… | /r/MGTOW | 14/02/18 06:37 AM |
| 2 | A group of 3 females mocked me because i bringed back my glass and plate at the barBased on my own experiences, depending on what country and what type of restaurant you are in, you may or may not be expected (or at least asked) to bring back your tray/dishes. They were literally laughing at something that doesn't even matter, and, if anything, it shows that you are respectful. People who laugh at others over stuff like that -- they do not realize what all the good people around them think of their behavior. If they did, they wouldn't feel too "cool" about themselves. I'm thin… | /r/MGTOW | 14/02/18 05:09 AM |
| 5 | This is why I refuse to approach women anymoreI have to say that I never experienced being made fun of to my face, back when I was trying to date. This treating of guys like a joke in return for having the courage to talk to a woman and likely getting rejected anyway -- this seems to be a new thing that is increasing. It was always bad enough whenever a guy got no interest or response from women. If this treatment of guys spreads, I don't see how that's not the beginning of the end of dating, for most of the remaining non-MGTOW guys. Seriou… | /r/MGTOW | 14/02/18 04:28 AM |
| 2 | I just saw a proposal, it was tragic.I'm guessing there was some reason to propose there that we don't know about. Maybe it was where they first met, or where they would see each other regularly. Or it could be that he was trying to surprise her by proposing when she would least expect it. She could have had an engagement story that was different from any other woman that she would ever meet. Instead, it sounds like she wanted it done on the beach on a $30,000 vacation (for example). Whether you agree with the guy's decision or not… | /r/MGTOW | 12/02/18 01:22 PM |
| 4 | Waste of TimeI spent years and years looking for the perfect romantic relationship. I got a few dates and one serious romantic relationship that didn't work out. It was wasted time, but it also wasn't. Talk about a way to prep someone for going MGTOW later. When I started reading about other guys' experiences in dating on this MGTOW group, I learned that it wasn't just me that wasn't successful. I probably had a more "typical guy" experience with dating than I ever thought before. I can answer why I wasted s… | /r/MGTOW | 12/02/18 05:59 AM |
| 2 | Cancel your cable!Yes, mainstream TV is so bad to me, especially national and even local news. It's beyond frustrating to see them throw out what appears to be propaganda, while they act like they don't know that people are going online and getting very different views of the stories. They often don't even try to fully address what the alternative news media says. It's like they assume the viewing audience is stupid, and it's like they are so arrogant as to think that they don't have to make their own case. I use… | /r/MGTOW | 12/02/18 04:40 AM |
| 11 | Anybody else think it’s utterly stupid and degrading getting on one knee while proposing?!All the engagement stuff are just traditions. I wouldn't blame the traditions. I think the real issue is that the romantic-relationship world simply isn't fair, and that's fairly hidden from guys. If there were truly "someone for everyone" in the romantic-relationship world, and there weren't unrealistic expectations, and there were very little cheating, and one could be reasonably sure that they would have a long-term happy marriage -- and if the whole thing weren't based so much on physical ap… | /r/MGTOW | 12/02/18 03:46 AM |
| 1 | Men who are not rich. How do you enjoy life?I suggest to be sure to not have the thought pattern that one has to always have one's "first choice" with respect to entertainment, or what they otherwise spend their money on. Look for free or used, cheap options when possible. I'll give you an example: Let's say that you enjoy music. Maybe you would like an entire room in your house of CD storage units, filled with hundreds of music CD's...including rare, expensive ones. Now, maybe the CD's would sound slightly better than buying digital mp3 … | /r/MGTOW | 11/02/18 05:46 PM |
| 5 | Went thru my girls phone. AWALT.I think that's a decision that each guy has to make for himself (who chooses to be in a romantic relationship). For me, I didn't have time to "play detective." If I stumbled upon a really good reason to believe that my ex was looking to date other guys, or even already dating them, that got me going on my way out of the relationship. I never went into any romantic relationship acting like a detective, so when I ever noticed something, it was usually right "in my face." Probably a lot of things w… | /r/MGTOW | 10/02/18 05:02 PM |
| 3 | Society is becoming 'pussified'One thing that I've noticed is the political strategy being pushed onto the people. As in, people will push some issue as important, but below the surface, it appears that they don't really care about what they are pushing. Many times, their views become inconsistent when it affects someone on their side. They'll also exaggerate, or care little about considering the other side's views and interests. Usually, the point of it all seems to be to take power away from their political opponents, and t… | /r/MGTOW | 09/02/18 08:25 AM |
| 1 | Anyone else feel like MGTOW is a boycott against everything wrong with society?There is something to the idea that some people have that MGTOW is beyond just staying single and goes into the territory of dropping out of the traditional life "plan" that everyone is seemingly "supposed to" follow. When I think of the traditional Western lifestyle, I think about the sort of lifestyle that American guys had, who were of the age to have been in the military during World War 2. My understanding is that a good portion of those guys went to college after the war, got married (long… | /r/MGTOW | 09/02/18 07:41 AM |
| 3 | So many people on r/deadbedrooms are WOMEN!The guys who say stuff like that have maybe never been in a badly failing romantic relationship? One of my ex's had all kinds of issues, but especially I'm pretty sure that she was cheating on me, or at least trying to. She was physically attractive, but I really wasn't even very happy living in the same home with her, much less marrying her. Guys need to understand that there is more to a romantic relationship than what the woman looks like. | /r/MGTOW | 09/02/18 06:30 AM |
| 1 | Anyone else feel like MGTOW is a boycott against everything wrong with society?There's a lot of counterarguments to the argument that one should have a family simply to pass along their genetics. For example, let's say that a guy gets married, and his family has two kids. Someday, he has one grandkid. But then that grandkid never has a family of his own. So the genetics eventually don't get passed on anyway. Even if the future generations keep having families, the DNA gets rearranged over generations. So, assuming I'm remembering genetics correctly, a kid will have half th… | /r/MGTOW | 09/02/18 05:23 AM |
| 1 | I need closure (not completely on topic)For me anyway, dating is pointless. I've done pretty well in life, and I could provide a woman with basically anything in life that she would care about, except (a) I'm not particularly good-lookng, and (b) I'm only upper middle-class in income and don't believe in spending money wastefully just to try to show off to people. So, it's very difficult for me to date any women who are attractive to me at all, and I believe those are the reasons. There are lots of sad, frustrated, alone times that I … | /r/MGTOW | 06/02/18 06:51 PM |
| 2 | Can anyone explain "Live, Laugh, Love"?My guess is that it's just a common saying that people repeat, as is typical with common sayings. I think it's meant as some sort of "feel good" combination of words; I don't think it's super-common, but I think that I've seen it mentioned a few times. If you did a bit of research online, you could probably find out where it came from; my guess is some movie or written source. | /r/MGTOW | 05/02/18 03:05 AM |
| 1 | No attention= ScaryI assume that you noticed that my response to your post was half-humorous and half-serious. I'm glad that you still gave me a serious response. I think it's fun to chat about some of this stuff that you almost never see people discussing. | /r/MGTOW | 04/02/18 05:13 PM |
| 3 | No attention= ScaryHow are you able to do all that stuff and talk at the same time?? If you start blinking after you see them blink, how do you finish your blink before they finish theirs? Otherwise, they will see the end of your blink and think that you are trying to trick them into thinking that you never blink. What happens in the following situations: 3a. Instead of looking at their "wrong" eye, what if you talk to their forehead slightly above their wrong eye? I mean, it'll look like you aren't making eye con… | /r/MGTOW | 04/02/18 06:56 AM |
| 3 | Short Guys Not Men According To Twitch StreamerI didn't watch the video, because I'm not interested in watching it, but I did want to comment on the topic title, which I assume reflects the video. Think how many short guys, that are close to becoming MGTOW, would finish going MGTOW after seeing such a statement. | /r/MGTOW | 04/02/18 06:05 AM |
| 5 | Warning To The Youngins'. At 33, I've spent nearly 20 years of my life building a life that appeals to pussy. At 33, I have no authentic or legitimate identity.I haven't really noticed women being more easily attracted to me, as I've gotten older. Then again, I am probably considered below-average-looking. Also, I've basically removed myself from most situations where I would ever meet anyone who wanted to date. I actually find many women in their thirties to be attractive. Where I really notice a change is women in their forties. I don't know if the remaining attractive ones get married, or the percentage of attractive ones decreases, but if you've ev… | /r/MGTOW | 04/02/18 05:47 AM |
| 5 | Man married to land whale that refuses to lose weight and just keeps getting fatter, funny read!I didn't read the article, but the post title brings up a broader point: Do people even think about what they are getting into when they marry? At least at the time of marriage, both parties are supposed to be planning to stay together no matter what. That would include: a. One of the parties becoming 600 pounds. b. One of the parties becoming a serious drug addict. c. One of the parties getting injured and having their face and body permanently deformed. d. One of the parties getting a medical … | /r/MGTOW | 03/02/18 04:39 PM |
| 2 | 2018 my change: MGTOW going viral.Could you imagine a MGTOW wrestling gimmick? | /r/MGTOW | 03/02/18 06:34 AM |
| 1 | MGTOW about to get featured on CNNIf I were tired of dating and being repeatedly disappointed, and I heard there was a philosophy based on walking away from all that while also being happy, I would take note of the name of that philosophy, regardless of what the speaker looked like. And if mainstream media is against something, that usually makes what they are against look better to me, as long as it's not anything bad. | /r/MGTOW | 03/02/18 01:26 AM |
| 1 | MGTOW about to get featured on CNNI don't know -- if he just gets the word MGTOW out there, and gets across the general idea, guys who are leaning in this direction can search it and find out what it's really about, even if CNN tries to twist it. The people who are easily manipulated against MGTOW -- such as people committed to living a traditional lifestyle, or people who use CNN as the guiding truth in their lives -- those are likely not going to be people open to going MGTOW anyway. I think it's also a big difference if it's … | /r/MGTOW | 02/02/18 04:17 PM |
| 5 | My downfall, going Monk Mode and the experience I gained from this has surpassed all of my expectations.I think one of the big benefits of MGTOW is finally having some explanation for the dating world. Instead of all that mainstream dating advice that never works (for me anyway), or people telling you that things will work out with no reasoning. For some strange reason, I get so much peace of mind understanding that I would be unlikely to ever find my dream romantic relationship! I think it comes down to that the satisfaction from understanding something is underrated. Imagine if your dream was to… | /r/MGTOW | 02/02/18 06:40 AM |
| 3 | Going on 5 years of Monk Mode.I haven't had a date or a serious romantic relationship in roughly one decade -- since my last romantic relationship broke up. I wouldn't say that I've been MGTOW for that long, because I did try to go back into the dating world for a while. I've slowly faded out of dating since then. It just feels like such a waste of time, and so much disappointment. In my case, the things I have to offer are other than physical appearance, so I just have very little value in the dating world. Who wants to try… | /r/MGTOW | 02/02/18 05:56 AM |
| 2 | Women's magazines in the supermarket check out lineI'll have to take a look at one of those magazines. I had no idea they'd put stuff like that directly in those. | /r/MGTOW | 01/02/18 06:26 AM |
| 5 | exposing them for what they are. Online dating experience.It may not seem very MGTOW to share stories about our past experiences in online dating, but I have to admit that it always interests me. I guess it's because I spent so much time on online dating years ago, while having no idea what anyone else's experiences were like on there. A regular theme is that women get lots of messages on there, but many guys typically don't. I thought I was just bad at it back when I did online dating, but now I understand that it's almost humorously disappointing for… | /r/MGTOW | 01/02/18 06:06 AM |
| 2 | Guys pregnant wife just Admitted she has $140k worth of Student debt.People need the benefit of knowledgeable honest guidance, and so many do not have anyone with the knowledge and ability to help them. It's just bad luck, like if their parent(s) don't know anything about what career to pick for the future. Or even how to find that out. I picked my undergrad degree years ago because I heard a few people say that people in that field made a lot of money, and I got good grades in related classes when I was in high school. But who even knew if what those people had … | /r/MGTOW | 31/01/18 06:03 AM |
| 6 | Guys pregnant wife just Admitted she has $140k worth of Student debt.I think part of it is that they think that they are going to be this one-in-a-million job candidate with all these degrees and immediately walk into a six-figure job. What they don't understand is that multiple graduate and undergraduate degrees aren't that uncommon, once you get into certain fields. It's like a big degree "bubble." | /r/MGTOW | 31/01/18 05:12 AM |
| 2 | They always come backI had a phone around the year 2002 that was pre-paid wireless, and I believe it was strictly minutes pre-purchased. I think you could buy them at Wal-mart. I don't remember if you had to purchase a new card every so often, if you still had minutes. I don't think the minutes went away if you didn't use them. It was my first cell phone. I got it in case my car broke down back then. | /r/MGTOW | 31/01/18 04:36 AM |
| 2 | Online dating is completely fruitless for meHow do you explain this difference between online and bars? I'd imagine most single, bar-aged people are able to use online these days. If the women can do so much better online, why would they be settling for a lesser standard in bars? | /r/MGTOW | 30/01/18 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Ever Find Out that Someone Who Harassed/Bullied You When You Were Younger Has Passed Away?From the comments in response to my original post, it does seem like a lot of people have trouble having sympathy for those people who bullied and/or harassed them when they were young people. I have to say that my experience has been different, in response to hearing about that guy passing away from a heart attack. Maybe other people were harassed much worse than I was? I was never threatened with being beat up physically, although my understanding is that a lot of people's bullies do that. Loo… | /r/MGTOW | 30/01/18 10:10 AM |
| 1 | Ever Find Out that Someone Who Harassed/Bullied You When You Were Younger Has Passed Away?Here's another interesting thing: After I wrote the original post, I happened to run across an online obituary for the guy. Just as I thought, many people cared about the guy. There was also a lot more to the guy than I ever knew about, and he ended up quite successful. There were messages left from our other past classmates from when we were in high school -- people who I didn't even know that they knew him that well -- and they were very saddened. I'd say they seemed far better friends with hi… | /r/MGTOW | 29/01/18 10:15 AM |
| 16 | My God, the men in r/askmen are such simps LOLTry checking out an online dating website where they let you see if your email to the woman has been read, and it's not unusual to see that the email was deleted before it was read. That means that they basically decided by the picture of the guy, without even opening the message. So much for personality and confidence! If only it were about personality, because this would be a much better world for all of us. Imagine if everyone, men and women, knew that we would get what we wanted in life, if … | /r/MGTOW | 29/01/18 07:33 AM |
| 3 | By the time I reach my old age Europe will be a third world continentI think I can give you an answer with respect to at least some of the conservatives, and that would be that I think they have lost trust in whole areas of society. Why do any of us believe anything that we are told? I believe one reason is that many of us believe that, in a free society, it is simply way too difficult to control people and information -- so truth rises to the top, and we can believe that the mainstream presents truth to us. But what happens when you see mainstream news media bei… | /r/MGTOW | 29/01/18 06:50 AM |
| 1 | Even hambeasts keep Chad now lolI would say that, in online dating, many "cute" (but not beautiful) women have standards on the level of someone with supermodel looks (or close to it). If an average or below-average-looking guy sends them a message, he can expect to see not just no response, but read plus deleted, or even the UNREAD plus deleted, which I believe that they often mean as an insult if they think the guy's picture is too ugly to deserve to have the ability to email them. MGTOW forever seems to be about the only wa… | /r/MGTOW | 28/01/18 07:08 PM |
| 2 | Begging is starting to become a trend on tinderI have seen similar situations happening, and it is absolutely PAINFUL to have to watch and/or listen to. It's usually some nerdy guy who probably knows deep down inside that he is a nerd, but has also somehow convinced himself that he could be a "Chad," if he only changes his look and tries to act like he thinks a Chad acts. Maybe he's read "be confident" out of some garbage mainstream dating book. Maybe he's convinced himself that his many other valuable talents make up for not being a Chad (t… | /r/MGTOW | 28/01/18 09:16 AM |
| 12 | My reasons for going MGTOWDon't forget that the benefits don't even have to be all about you. You can do things for your family and friends, nice things, spending lots of money on people who have been loyal and good to you. And no one to tell you that you can't, that the money is for them instead. No one to try to control you and distance you from your family and friends -- which sometimes happens (but not always) in romantic relationships. If you look at what you are "signing up" for, for a romantic relationship, if you… | /r/MGTOW | 28/01/18 04:41 AM |
| 3 | Hey you all...Did you know you can be banned for posting and being a member of this site???Remember, they can have their own group rules, just like this group has its own rules. We'll see which group increases the most by being popular and giving better advice: their group or this group. I know that watered-down mainstream dating advice never worked for me, if that's what they provide instead of MGTOW. Maybe it works for them though??? | /r/MGTOW | 27/01/18 07:26 AM |
| 1 | #TooLate darlingI remember, back when I was in my twenties, seeing guys talking to women, trying to get the woman to like them. From what I could tell, it usually didn't work unless the woman already liked the guy's appearance. However, I think sometimes they would enjoy the attention from the guy they would never date, while knowing that they would never date the guy. I think regular ("the 80%") of guys are just figuring out that there's no point in giving attention anymore when the chances are so good that th… | /r/MGTOW | 26/01/18 03:58 AM |
| 1 | DeadBedroom Mod Cuck Removes thread because of advice from MGTOW and Red PillerssimianSupervisor wrote: Rule 6 says "no red pill". You don't bring up red pill, we don't have any issues. I've never been to that group, but, out of curiosity, why don't you let people give advice involving red-pill relationship philosophy or MGTOW? I used to follow mainstream dating advice a long time ago (be confident, nice, and really try to have a good date), and it just doesn't work, unless the person is naturally attractive anyway, in my opinion. I was unhappy for years and years at dating… | /r/MGTOW | 25/01/18 05:29 PM |
| 3 | Sudden growth?I think there are a lot of disappointed guys out there, particularly with respect to dating and romantic relationships but also with respect to broader issues like economics. The Internet is also breaking up mainstream media's control over what ideas get talked about -- when other ideas are heard, mainstream media looks more and more like propaganda, especially lately. It's pretty rough having disappointments with the world, feeling like people largely don't care, and then feeling like the publi… | /r/MGTOW | 23/01/18 12:05 PM |
| 41 | 46K subs! +1K in just 10 daysThat means that dogs, and grains of sand, will be going their own way too!!!!! | /r/MGTOW | 22/01/18 01:42 AM |
| 6 | Is ghosting and dumping an AWALT the most liberating feeling in the world?Doesn't the original poster's whole story just make romantic relationships look so silly? It's like she's dating this person, then she is dating that person, then she wants to date the first person again. Who has time for that? When I was in my early twenties, I thought it was all simple: Just find someone I liked that also liked me, for who we both were. Then get married and move forward with life. I had no idea that, for so many people, it was more about dating different people forever and eve… | /r/MGTOW | 22/01/18 01:31 AM |
| 9 | For those of you still thinking about marriage, here's something straight from the horse's mouthIf the nice, responsible guy is supposed to be the best of all of them, then why is he the "back-up plan" for when the woman is done having fun? The quote doesn't seem to consider that perhaps the nice guy won't be interested in someone who has treated him as a "back-up plan." | /r/MGTOW | 21/01/18 10:26 PM |
| 1 | 80% of women who rejected me are still single?"If I were" is a sentence fragment. | /r/MGTOW | 19/01/18 03:48 AM |
| 3 | MGTOW Philosopher Removed from Youtube!Do they look for one comment in one video that someone didn't like, in order to remove all the videos for someone, or are they just deleting every single thing related to MGTOW? | /r/MGTOW | 18/01/18 08:25 AM |
| 3 | Just want a MGTOW perspective on life after 30Some things are better with getting older, and some things are worse. However, I would say that overall things are better with getting older. I've been mostly MGTOW for about ten years now. During that time, I have greatly moved forward in my career, I have paid off a lot of debt, I have saved a lot of money for the future, and I have had many great experiences, some shared with friends and family. My confidence is at its greatest point in my life -- I am finally at peace and feel like I underst… | /r/MGTOW | 18/01/18 05:42 AM |
| 2 | My Punishment For Talking To Modern Women In A BarThis is like some minor-indication-of-the-end-of-civilization-type stuff here. I'm sure that there have always been some nasty people out there, but it used to be that if a guy put himself out there to be either accepted or rejected when wanting to get to know a woman, there was at least some respect shown to the guy for risking being turned down, and also it was respected as a compliment to the woman. And if the guy were turned down, he was in a somewhat sympathetic position. The idea that such… | /r/MGTOW | 16/01/18 07:51 PM |
| 2 | I have a real problem with the concept of SMV, certainly as it relates to MGTOWThe concept discussed in the original post does not have so much value to a MGTOW because the MGTOW philosophy is about being an individual and doing what you think is best for yourself. Why would you care if someone else considers your date to be good-looking, if you even decide to date as a MGTOW. However, the concept still has value when discussing why someone became MGTOW, and when discussing how other non-MGTOW people act. For example, when someone has an easier time because people are nice… | /r/MGTOW | 15/01/18 05:26 PM |
| 7 | Quality of life has improved ever since going MGTOW.Because I don't make a big show of it all, I sometimes forget that I am way ahead of a lot of people, in terms of things that I have done, and places that I have been able to visit. In my one serious romantic relationship, my savings was constantly going down, and my debt was constantly going up. I can't imagine what situation I would be in now, if I had stayed with her. Because I don't have a wife and family, I have much more flexibility if the economy should go in a bad direction. I could live… | /r/MGTOW | 15/01/18 09:24 AM |
| 5 | What was your final straw? I.e the last time you tried to have a relationship just to realize that this shit isn't worth it anymoreI feel like the whole dating/romantic-relationship system leaves so many guys mostly locked out of most of the enjoyment from it. In other words, I feel like a lot of the women really don't care that a lot of the men exist, in terms of romantically-speaking. I don't blame the women; they have a right to their own preferences. But apparently the dating world works biologically such that a high percentage of the guys really aren't very attractive to a high percentage of the women. It bothers me th… | /r/MGTOW | 15/01/18 12:26 AM |
| 6 | AWALT - nostalgic musing about an old flameA lot of times, with respect to dating, it seems like people only work as hard as they have to, and people only really appreciate what was difficult for them to get. By that reasoning, a guy is setting himself up for disappointment by chasing after very attractive women. I've had the experience of being very attracted to a beautiful woman, and her giving me "a chance," and then being coldly dropped by her. That was way before I learned about MGTOW, and it really hurt me so much at the time. Back… | /r/MGTOW | 13/01/18 01:51 PM |
| 6 | Spent the whole day watching the original Lord of the Rings Trilogy. IT WAS TERRIBLE.The books are about going on a long journey. The movies make you feel like you have been on a long journey. They accomplish this by being very long. | /r/MGTOW | 13/01/18 01:33 PM |
| 5 | Spent the whole day watching the original Lord of the Rings Trilogy. IT WAS TERRIBLE.Back in Hobbit days, having a gardener was similar to a marriage-type relationship. | /r/MGTOW | 13/01/18 01:24 PM |
| 1 | Imagine how terrible film and television is gonna be after #Timesup! ruins everything. (even more than it already is)To be fair, I don't doubt that there has been a lot of really bad behavior in Hollywood over decades. I have a couple of notes about it all: I feel like the public is not getting the full story. Why would almost nothing like this come out for years (presumably because the women were discouraged from doing that for various reasons), but then suddenly it all comes out at once? Are we just supposed to believe that because a small number of women started speaking out, and just because of a Twitter t… | /r/MGTOW | 13/01/18 05:00 AM |
| 2 | Feminazis Are FURIOUS Because Every Single Male Winner @ Golden Globes Awards Ignored #MeToo & #TimesUp in His Acceptance Speech. "Their silence was deafening."Whether you like country music or not, their industry seems to be very good at getting a lot of them together at once for the big shows. | /r/MGTOW | 11/01/18 05:49 AM |
| 10 | My two closest friends have become beta male cucks (Rant/Story)Once you start reading MGTOW and red-pill philosophy stuff, it's amazing how you can think about how you used to analyze the dating world, compared to how you would look at the same situations later on. You wonder how people can think the blue-pill way, but then you realize that so many guys started out that way, maybe even 90% of guys. I know a guy who would be "just a friend" to women for years. He would do really nice things for them, spend time with them. I think he believed that he enjoyed … | /r/MGTOW | 10/01/18 07:32 AM |
| 5 | When they don't realize there's a wallIt sounds like some of these older-middle-aged women are experiencing what I, an average to below-average-looking guy, experienced my entire time in the dating world. I remember realizing it back in college that women actually chased some guys but they basically wanted nothing to do with me. If I worked with them on a project for college, it was strictly academics, like I was a robot. Basically, they really didn't care if I ever existed in their world. I mean, that is a tough feeling. For years,… | /r/MGTOW | 10/01/18 07:01 AM |
| 5 | Don't PM/DM/Text Women...Or live a manly enough life where its not laughable. Is that that hard? Learn to be a man and you will not have this issue. People have different definitions of what that means around here. What is your definition of that? | /r/MGTOW | 10/01/18 06:28 AM |
| 3 | Hitting the Wall at Light Speed with Force - a cautionary tale of Carrie FisherHer hairdo in Star Wars always weirded me out. Looked like ear muffs made out of hair or something. | /r/MGTOW | 10/01/18 06:07 AM |
| 2 | #MeToo Backfiring In Ways I never ImaginedBut the toad would have his rock that he lives in! :-) | /r/MGTOW | 09/01/18 08:06 AM |
| 3 | If Oprah becomes President, someone put me out of my miseryWouldn't it be funny if the 2024 Presidential debate was Oprah and Alex Jones? | /r/MGTOW | 09/01/18 07:53 AM |
| 2 | #MeToo Backfiring In Ways I never ImaginedWhat about the water bears? Didn't they find some toad living inside of a rock too? | /r/MGTOW | 09/01/18 07:22 AM |
| 2 | James Franco is their next victim.They'll probably be able to create real-sounding human voices too. They'd be able to create realistic-looking movies with every actor being exactly how the director imagined it to be, not limited by the actors available in the real world. They'll probably be able to even bring back careers of entertainers who sadly passed away long ago -- so you could have a dream movie with every single great entertainer of the last 100 years in it. And new albums and songs for singers who sadly passed away dec… | /r/MGTOW | 09/01/18 06:56 AM |
| 1 | At the Golden Globes tonight, watch how these celebrity strumpets try to steer the public perception away from their complicity; denying the simple fact that most of them got where they are by being VERY wiling participants in the game of exchange of sex for power, wealth, and super-stardom.Here's the thing though, whether or not Hollywood has always been messed up to at least some level, I think they used to at least be really good at still relating to the average person. Consider Frank Sinatra for example, or Johnny Carson. People just liked to watch them, and they were smart enough not to turn off people by being political. Even 80's and 90's musicians, like Paula Abdul. They were just there to entertain you, back then. You didn't see them on TV and think that they were in their… | /r/MGTOW | 09/01/18 04:27 AM |
| 2 | At the Golden Globes tonight, watch how these celebrity strumpets try to steer the public perception away from their complicity; denying the simple fact that most of them got where they are by being VERY wiling participants in the game of exchange of sex for power, wealth, and super-stardom.Someone where I live watches the awards shows out of habit, so I saw a small part of it. As soon as I heard Seth Meyers voice for the first time on the main show, it was so annoying that I had to leave the room and quit watching. From the admittedly small part of the pre-show that I saw (and the bits of Seth Meyers jokes that I heard from the other room), they seem incredibly desperate to somehow show that Hollywood was really, really bad behind the scenes, but also that now they are completely … | /r/MGTOW | 08/01/18 01:31 AM |
| 1 | University sucks -- need advice from fellow menMy advice is simplify the rest of your life as much as you can. If it's still too much work, and if it's possible for your particular situation, see if you can take fewer classes at a time, for example, by taking some classes during the summer, or even going one extra term, if your university allows, and if you can afford to. You might occasionally find yourself watching TV for a couple of hours more than you planned, or getting some extra sleep. Well, nobody's perfect, but get yourself going, a… | /r/MGTOW | 07/01/18 03:30 PM |
| 2 | Does anyone else not care about how they dress anymore?Speaking of men's fashion advice in magazines, I think that I once saw such an article in one of the men's magazines, and I think it literally had the exact name/brand (and price) of each recommended piece of clothing. Looking back, I wonder if those type of articles are actually secret paid advertisements disguised as articles. With everything I hear about these days, it wouldn't surprise me at all. It wouldn't even surprise me if the magazines "shop around" spots in the articles to different c… | /r/MGTOW | 07/01/18 03:14 PM |
| 5 | How to convert my deep hatred for women into indifference?In my life, I have gotten along well with some men and some women. There have also been some men and some women who did not like me. Therefore, I don't think the issues with the dating world are the fault of women, because I know that there are both good and bad people (both men AND women) outside of dating. Instead, I think the problem with the dating world is the overall system. Most people inside the dating world are not actively trying to ruin it for other people -- I think they are just beh… | /r/MGTOW | 07/01/18 06:27 AM |
| 19 | Ever Stopped To Think How Far You’ve Come?What I really notice is the last time I actually dated or was in a serious romantic relationship. Time flies, of course, and it has now been YEARS and YEARS. I only knew about MGTOW during some of that time period, but I think it's fair to count it all. Most of the areas of my life have significantly improved since no longer dating. In another ten years, I'll be well on my way to having accomplished most of my goals in life. | /r/MGTOW | 07/01/18 05:52 AM |
| 1 | Heh. Started talking to a girl a week ago but apparently she has a problem with "her phone dying"I was online chat friends with this one woman years ago; since we were just friends, she was pretty honest with me, and one day she accidentally typed a response to someone else's chat with her, in her chat window with me. At that point, if I remember correctly, I think she revealed that she had EIGHT chats going at once!!!! When I did online dating, when I did get responses (rarely), they would often be one or two responses, and then stop. Back then, I used to think that the woman just didn't f… | /r/MGTOW | 06/01/18 09:33 AM |
| 6 | How do you guys do it?Especially in my twenties, I can remember being really sad and disappointed at seeing so many women that I thought were beautiful, and it seemed like none of them would ever date me. Clearly, other guys could date them though. That's a rough feeling. It was like I was missing out, that life was passing me by, that this was my only chance to enjoy my twenties, and I was failing at that chance. So -- what do you do? That was quite a while back for me, WAY before I ever heard of MGTOW as an option.… | /r/MGTOW | 06/01/18 07:55 AM |
| 12 | Thank you - FreedomI think I've said before on this group that I think that one of the main reasons that a lot of guys aren't MGTOW is that they've never been told that it's an actual realistic option. As in, why not just go with an easier, quiet, peaceful life? It's so difficult for a lot of guys to even date so many of the women -- would it be this way if it were widely realized just how much work is being asked of a person in a romantic relationship? You would think that any guy willing to do all that, to trade… | /r/MGTOW | 05/01/18 06:36 AM |
| 2 | Just tired of being disappointed with women. (Drunk rant)I wouldn't have a family for only that reason. For example, you go through all that work and expense, and if you don't have grandkids or great-grandkids later on, it was all for nothing anyway. | /r/MGTOW | 04/01/18 05:58 AM |
| 88 | For the virgins: if you feel shame or fear of missing out, here are some words.It should be noted that many things in life do not live up to the anticipation of them -- I think this is especially the case for someone who often did not get the things they wanted in life. For example, say you don't have much money, but you like music and movies. You wish you had a good job, so you could have the entertainment collection that you always wanted. You work hard and get a good job. You buy and buy and buy, until you can't possibly think of another CD or DVD or Blu-ray that you ev… | /r/MGTOW | 03/01/18 06:44 AM |
| 7 | Red Pill Man Claims MGTOW is "Blue Pill Behavior Disguised as Red Pill"I have to disagree with that guy; I don't agree with some of his supporting reasoning. I have never heard of red-pill dating being a definite magic "cure" for dating. If anything, I've heard mixed reports. It's difficult to say if one still doesn't have to have some natural gifts to attract women easily, even with the red-pill approach. Even if it does work, what I have read about it is that it is an awful lot of work -- like a philosophy that requires one to give their entire life over to it. W… | /r/MGTOW | 03/01/18 05:52 AM |
| 1 | So i decided not to go out with this chick!Am I only one who can never hear what people are saying in a bar? | /r/MGTOW | 03/01/18 05:13 AM |
| 1 | So i decided not to go out with this chick!How is it funny? I think it'd be pretty cool to be able to fit all of one's possessions into a vehicle, have no rent or mortgage, be able to retire early because of low expenses, and be able to drive/live wherever I decide to go any day, with every day a new adventure. The system wants everyone to think that everyone has to have an overpriced house, an overpriced car, overpriced clothes, waste tons of money on the latest consumer entertainment, etc. A lot of that stuff turns out to be a disappoi… | /r/MGTOW | 03/01/18 05:09 AM |
| 2 | MGTOW and RP principals have forever altered my movie watching experience.What I notice a lot is the blue-pill behavior from the "leading man" in movies with romance storylines. And they like to put glasses on him and make him "nerdy" too. But, at the same time, it's always the same type of actor in that role -- I assume it's what women find physically good-looking. So they like to make it look like a blue-pill nerdy guy attracts women -- but it's never an actual short, fat, ugly guy. It seems designed to trick people. They want it to not be about physical appearance,… | /r/MGTOW | 03/01/18 04:45 AM |
| 3 | conversation I just had with my single mother sisterZombie-Hamster wrote: If you aren't in a professional field dealing with people you probably should be. Your ability to word arguments is on par with that of a law student. (Not sarcastic at all just so we're clear, actual compliment) I just may have to take your advice and rethink my approach to debating here. Assuming I remain unblocked. Thanks for the conversation my friend. Have a good day Thank you. You deserve credit for being willing to at least listen. People don't always have to agree -… | /r/MGTOW | 03/01/18 03:58 AM |
| 1 | conversation I just had with my single mother sisterZombie-Hamster wrote: I'm not here to be a moderator, and I'm not aiming to silence anyone or troll. Just debating those that spout off derogatory ideas. Censorship is a terrible idea for most subjects. That includes banning anyone who disagrees just because they argue. Literally just here to debate those I disagree with Don't be surprised if you get banned from the group because this type of discussion generally is not what the group is for. As I somewhat mentioned before, this type of debate i… | /r/MGTOW | 02/01/18 06:46 PM |
| 1 | conversation I just had with my single mother sisterZombie-Hamster wrote: You make several good points I concede on that. Everyone here is not the problem by a long shot. But the ones that are going to catch the most attention from outsiders like myself are the ones that are going to cause your group problems in the long run. If more members made a push against such ideologies a large number of us 'normies' would have a better overall view of the culture. Those of you who don't make toxic attacks against others I offer an apology, I don't intend … | /r/MGTOW | 02/01/18 06:29 AM |
| 1 | CAN we have a live NYE thread commenting on abc?I think it's the advantage of having been on the air for a long, long time. People have a habit of watching TV when the ball (or apple light, I think?) drops on New Year's, and this goes way back to Dick Clark. They'd have to make an unbelievable mistake to turn viewers away rapidly. Otherwise, people will probably just keep tuning in year after year, although viewers have so many choices these days that I could see it gradually decreasing in the future. | /r/MGTOW | 02/01/18 04:47 AM |
| 3 | conversation I just had with my single mother sisterZombie-Hamster wrote: Oh no. Don't get me wrong if you've made a decision and you are comfortable with said decision that is completely on you and I support %100 so long as you aren't hurting anyone. The problem comes from those who spout off hateful, derogatory attacks at all women just because. That's what I'm against, and I'd be willing to bet if those sort of posts weren't here no one would bother you all I imagine that you're talking about some of the posts that are really, really negative … | /r/MGTOW | 01/01/18 11:20 PM |
| 6 | conversation I just had with my single mother sisterZombie-Hamster wrote: The problem is that most blackpill ideology has no understanding of equality and seems to want to go back to old-school "man owns woman" mentality I don't think this is an accurate statement about MGTOW. I think that you are thinking of the "traditional conservative" view (if even that). MGTOW basically views the whole dating system as broken and unable to be fixed. So they are all just walking away from it (at least from serious romantic relationships). If you are against … | /r/MGTOW | 01/01/18 10:39 PM |
| 3 | CAN we have a live NYE thread commenting on abc?People call CNN propaganda, but I think ABC is actually far far worse. I can't help but watch their fancy production values and carefully-crafted events and still think: "I don't feel like the people who control this thing REALLY care about most of the people in our country." On the surface, it doesn't look much different from ABC's 1980's programming, but once you feel like it's become a garbage propaganda channel, it's hard to un-see that. Then, everything else they do then just looks like a t… | /r/MGTOW | 01/01/18 07:37 AM |
| 3 | Went on a date last nightI can't imagine the situation ever occurring again in which I would be excited at the chance to go for a date. I was just turned down or ignored too many times. And the times that it did go somewhere, it always turned out either as a disappointment or even a bad experience. It's a real shame that the dream isn't real, at least for so many of us. I think of the energy, motivation, and optimism that I had toward dating as a young adult, just for it to be so impossible overall for me. I had so much… | /r/MGTOW | 01/01/18 07:22 AM |
| 3 | Isn't "the wall" of women a perfect change to take advantage of women?My own opinion is that if someone is unfair to you, you should avoid wanting to pass on the unfairness to someone else. Instead, my view is that you should want to rise above that and build your own life into something that is based on honesty, fairness, happiness, and good. Aside from that, I have not seen where women in their thirties are particularly easier to get dates with. Maybe 40's and 50's are different? | /r/MGTOW | 31/12/17 05:55 PM |
| 11 | Isn't "the wall" of women a perfect change to take advantage of women?I wonder what women will think when they notice that almost every guy they date has started acting EXACTLY the same way! :-) | /r/MGTOW | 31/12/17 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Just watched a MSM countdown of events this year. I feel like an alien.If you look at the list in the original post: The against-Trump stuff is political propaganda from the people who control mainstream media (not regular people like your next-door neighbor). The MeToo movement has value in that no doubt lots of those women were mistreated. However, I think the MeToo tag is not nearly as important as the related specific cases. The last four items on the list all sound like pointless entertainment talk -- basically advertising to consumers. Hollywood lost my trust… | /r/MGTOW | 31/12/17 02:51 AM |
| 3 | It is now sexual harrassment to find women attractiveDon't you kind of figure that we're going back to the time before marriage existed? In other words, women are now only going to actually like the top 20% of guys (which I assume is what they biologically find attractive), and those guys will tend not to marry because they can date a different woman each week. I have wondered if the point of marriage was to encourage women to date more of the men, thereby giving the remaining 80% of men the opportunity to get married and have some sort of motivat… | /r/MGTOW | 31/12/17 02:08 AM |
| 2 | (MGTOW Movie?) Anyone see "Winnebago Man"?I liked it, but I also think I know what you mean. Maybe I enjoyed it particularly because I didn't know anything about the online video before seeing the documentary -- so it was all new to me. I do think the "Winnebago Man" was an interesting guy, although I think what you are getting at is that he's not so unusual that there aren't lots of people like him out there. That being said, I still enjoyed it because I could appreciate the Winnebago Man's personality/story, even though it wasn't unbe… | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/17 07:02 AM |
| 1 | It was crapMy guess is that Star Wars is probably expected to be popular (maybe even more popular?) in the future by its current owner. Businesses like to either forever grow, or at least stay the same. I do not think they'd be happy with even a 25% drop in popularity. | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/17 04:21 AM |
| 4 | Just got back from watching Star Wars The Last JediCould Disney PLEASE buy the rights to "The Godfather." I mean, it's just been so long since there has been new "Godfather" "content," and I'm thinking the Godfather fans really want to see what's next in the Godfather "universe." I'd be really interested to hear about (but not actually see) what Disney would do with the Godfather movies. | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/17 06:46 PM |
| 3 | Just got back from watching Star Wars The Last JediIt sounds like they are phasing out all the old famous characters. I think that's a mistake. I'm not really a Star Wars fan, but I can't see them creating any new characters that will be able to take the place of Darth Vader, etc. What is a Star Wars movie without the old classic characters in some form? You'd have to have new characters that are at least nearly as good. Good luck with automatically being able to create as good of characters as one of the most successful science fiction movie se… | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/17 06:33 PM |
| 1 | Get Smarter for Almost FreeI think it's a great idea: making the great books for which copyright has expired mostly free to everyone (basically the expense of having Internet). (Again, it is the website (not me) that is checking the copyright status, so anyone using the website is taking their word on that.) I've gotten so sick of Hollywood's seemingly almost completely one-sided politicization that I'm so turned away from new entertainment. How cool to have free versions of classic great books in electronic form -- no ne… | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/17 05:30 AM |
| 2 | MGTOW business cardsEvery one of us here who learned about MGTOW from somewhere else, by definition, had it communicated TO us, in some way. Whether a friend told you, someone mentioned it online, or whatever else. I think that his business cards are just an organized way of communicating MGTOW. I don't think it is forced. It's not like he is telling anyone that they HAVE to be MGTOW or can't date. And he's not harassing someone for not being MGTOW -- harassing would be wrong. I think that a lot of guys just aren't… | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/17 01:49 AM |
| 6 | Last Jedi Had Largest First to Second Weekend Box Office Dollar-Value ($) Drop in History + Toys Are Flopping HARD.I get really annoyed when businesses quit thinking like customers and instead try to push things at customers to try to make just a bit more money. They probably think five more minutes of ads is no big deal, but what about when you've already sat through 15 minutes of them? And it's pushy too, because the customer already bought their ticket, would probably prefer not to have so many ads, but is probably not going to leave once already in the theater. The only way it is good is if you are runni… | /r/MGTOW | 27/12/17 06:41 AM |
| 51 | Seriously Im a 27 y/O Guy and feel like an old manYou don't realize that certain types of people are out there until you see it yourself. I didn't realize that people existed who really did constantly lie, about both important things, and even non-important things. You know, sometimes it's pretty hard to be successful in this world, even if you make an honest effort. That makes it even harder to understand how messed up some of the people running around society are -- like, how are they possibly able to meet their basic needs in this world, etc… | /r/MGTOW | 27/12/17 06:04 AM |
| 9 | This sub is making me perpetually angry at womenI once watched this wealthy-looking couple make a huge loud scene at a tourist location; they were talking down to the staff over something they were complaining about. The couple were complaining about something that was indeed real, but they were making a point to react completely out of proportion, when they probably just should have let it slide. They were also ripping into staff who were doing the best they could, who probably had much harder lives than the couple, and who also were probabl… | /r/MGTOW | 27/12/17 05:42 AM |
| 1 | SJW shitfest Star Wars The Last Jedi performs 42% worse than the previous Star WarsI'm not really a Star Wars fan, but does anyone really believe that they'll ever be able to recreate what they had with the original three movies? I mean, how could any of the new characters ever be as memorable as Darth Vader and the rest of them? Any chance that Disney will start adding on to the Wizard of Oz next? I wonder what they would do with that. Would they drop all the old characters and replace them with characters with 2% of the memorability? | /r/MGTOW | 27/12/17 05:16 AM |
| 9 | Hollywood's Top 6 Problems of 2017: Ticket Sales Collapse, Dead Franchises, JLaw, and Sex AbuseIf I really wanted to, I'm sure I could find current Hollywood product that I would enjoy. But Hollywood's arrogant, disrespectful behavior during and after the election season, in combination with how one-sided they were, makes me feel like they are nothing more than a propaganda tool. It spoils the enjoyment of Hollywood's products when it seems like the industry is so much under the control of likely bad people. | /r/MGTOW | 25/12/17 04:13 AM |
| 11 | My [27 F] boyfriend [28 M] spent over $500 [of his own money] on himself for Christmas, got me something less than $10Certainly she is not serious, right? Because who could ever go against that universal wisdom of "It's the thought that counts." Everyone agrees with that, right? I'm sure that if he spent an entire day searching for a stone that reminded him of her the most, and he wrote her a wonderful thoughtful poem about why that stone reminded him of her, in words that would represent the highest level of romance, then, EVEN THOUGH the gift might have cost him basically nothing, she would be fine with that,… | /r/MGTOW | 23/12/17 06:50 AM |
| 1 | Glad to be singleIt doesn't sound to me like you were an idiot. So many of us guys aren't told about cheating, so we think that it is far less common than it probably actually is. We're taught that it's good to trust, and not play detective. Especially if a guy is just a regular guy who doesn't get that many romantic relationships -- he appreciates that relationship and thus imagines that the woman is the same way and would never cheat. I didn't "wake up" to reality until I had a serious relationship in which th… | /r/MGTOW | 23/12/17 06:30 AM |
| 15 | Feminist Jackass Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks is being forced to resign. Shouldn’t have sided with the crazies.I used to be a progressive, and I happened to randomly see the Young Turks show one day, and had no idea about all the reasons that conservatives don't like them. If you are a progressive, and you just hear their side, they don't seem that unreasonable (at least not a couple of years ago, when I saw their show). If I remember correctly, they liked Bernie a lot. Then we hear all this bizarre stuff about the Democratic primaries, yet never did I hear of a serious major investigation of that. Now, … | /r/MGTOW | 23/12/17 06:06 AM |
| 5 | Christmas 2013 vs. Christmas 2017It depends on the family situation, I think. I was very lucky for years and years (luckier than I realized at the time), that I had relatively little family drama. Then later on, problems started showing up. Stuff that I couldn't believe. My guess is that things start falling apart for certain sides of a family, they hide it from the outside for a while, they are miserable, then eventually it's too big of a problem to hide and it starts spilling over and affecting the rest of the family. To anyo… | /r/MGTOW | 23/12/17 05:48 AM |
| 6 | Women really love thugs and hate decent guys!Some guys claim to have had success with so-called "red-pill" approaches to dating, which, from what I've heard, typically involves being much less of a nice guy than they were before. People have mixed opinions on whether that really works or not. My belief is that it's mostly what a guy looks like that attracts women. If the guy is just the most nasty person ever, I suppose that could counter women liking what he looks like, but, then again, for some women, I think they'll put up with a ridicu… | /r/MGTOW | 21/12/17 04:46 AM |
| 2 | Star Wars: The Last Jedi was f***ing awfulI just learned quite a bit about literature that I did not know before. Thank you for that. | /r/MGTOW | 21/12/17 03:45 AM |
| 2 | UK celebrity Davina McCall showcases her super fit body after splitting up with her husband of 17 yearsI always see pictures in magazines or on TV of famous people approaching middle-age (or beyond), and trying to show that they look like they are 25. What's the deal? It's such an unnatural, space-alien type behavior. For example, think of most people throughout human history. They probably had to work hard, they probably had difficult lives, and they probably were poor. Just like many people today. I highly doubt they obsessed about trying to make other people think that they weren't getting old… | /r/MGTOW | 20/12/17 02:00 PM |
| 2 | Star Wars: The Last Jedi was f***ing awfulIt's pretty funny to be talkin' Mickey Mouse on a MGTOW group, but yeah, it's definitely weird how he's such a big deal to Disney and the cartoon world, but you've got to go out of your way to see very many actual Mickey Mouse cartoons. I'm pretty sure they exist because it seems like there are plenty of very short clips of them shown on television. I grew up during the early days of cable TV, and many of us still just had roughly 8 TV channels (no cable). I almost never saw a Mickey Mouse carto… | /r/MGTOW | 20/12/17 06:28 AM |
| 1 | RIP Good Movie FranchisesIf I remember correctly, didn't Hillary push the new (at the time) Star Wars movie in her closing statement at the end of the December 2015 Democratic Party debate? I think it was the ABC News one too. Aren't ABC and Star Wars both Disney products? | /r/MGTOW | 19/12/17 07:08 AM |
| 1 | Star Wars: The Last Jedi was f***ing awfulYes, I think they even made a "Popeye" movie. Popeye cartoons are about the simplest thing ever. Not exactly what you create a high-level storyline out of, without inventing a whole bunch of new stuff in the Popeye universe, which of course makes it no longer Popeye. My guess is that, with some of these old-school cartoons and characters, back then, it was probably a big deal just to see any animated cartoon, any movie, or any black-and-white TV. That doesn't mean that these things weren't good … | /r/MGTOW | 19/12/17 05:33 AM |
| 1 | Star Wars: The Last Jedi was f***ing awfulI wonder how much success Disney will ever get out of the Muppets, too (I'm pretty sure they bought the Muppets). Honestly, has there been any significant new chapter to the Muppets since the mid-80's? I doubt you'll ever see it admitted publicly, but it's possible that the Muppets were a product for their time, and not some brand that will be popular forever. How many people these days go back and listen to the top radio shows of 80 years ago? Or can even name more than a few of them (or any of… | /r/MGTOW | 19/12/17 04:09 AM |
| 2 | Quick question for MGTOWThere is a "theory" that one reason it is so difficult for 80% or so of guys to find partners is that we don't encourage everyone to get into long-term marriages that are difficult to get out of. If that were the case, the top 20% of guys would mostly get married, and the remaining non-married women would have to "settle" for the lower 80% of guys, which they supposedly tend not to even consider as partners today. Supposedly that is more like how things used to be in the USA. I say, what's the p… | /r/MGTOW | 18/12/17 09:36 AM |
| 2 | "2017 sucked. 2018 will be so much better!" - every female on my FB.Could it be that every single year is actually horrible? | /r/MGTOW | 17/12/17 08:29 PM |
| 3 | Anyone else get strange comments and looks when you try to drop a red pill to your buddies?"buzzfret" wrote: You know not all women are evil and people can have a family and be happy? It's not for everyone but not as bad as it seems you think it is. I think some people on this group do tend to exaggerate. On the other hand, you have to keep in mind that experiences differ greatly based on who the particular person is. So, yes, it is not impossible to find lots of people in long-term marriages who, according directly to them, are happy. However, you also have to keep in mind that there… | /r/MGTOW | 17/12/17 08:16 PM |
| 21 | Star Wars: The Last Jedi was f***ing awfulI don't think I qualify as a "Star Wars" fan, but I find the reactions to the new movie interesting. One thing I've definitely noticed over the years with Star Wars films is that it seems impossible to make everyone happy. The Disney stuff seems to be very successful financially, from what I've read. I wouldn't be surprised if these new films are carefully designed to maximize profits, and it appears to be working. It's like turning "Star Wars" into a McDonalds hamburger. Compare that to having … | /r/MGTOW | 17/12/17 07:42 PM |
| 3 | I'm ready to end it all. Super Mario Bros is sexist now, apparently.A. I didn't bother reading the article in the original post (not interested) -- but I can respond to what the original post's title says about the article. B. The Princess was easily the best character to use in Super Mario 2 (the USA version). C. The original Super Mario was just Mario and Luigi. Basically, it was really just Mario because Luigi was basically just the 2nd player's Mario -- probably to help you tell first and second player apart. D. The idea of rescuing a Princess is almost cert… | /r/MGTOW | 17/12/17 06:20 AM |
| 1 | "The reality of false accusations is a myth." - Lauren DucaSo her quote is "The reality of false accusations is a myth."? So, she's saying that the [idea of false accusations being real accusations] is a myth? It sounds like she is saying that there are indeed false accusations. I'm surprised she would focus on that, based on what else was written in the original post. | /r/MGTOW | 16/12/17 05:41 PM |
| 1 | Banned from LateStageCapitalism for posting in MGTOWIf they are interested in the current state of society, you would think that they would be interested in MGTOW. Why wouldn't they want some MGTOW representatives around to help them understand what is going on? | /r/MGTOW | 16/12/17 07:23 AM |
| 1 | Saw Star Wars tonightDidn't those teddy bear things get their own movie too? What do real Star Wars fans think of that movie? Which episode number is THAT??! ;-) | /r/MGTOW | 16/12/17 05:58 AM |
| 1 | Im convinced.That's a smart way to keep a group from growing, thinking of ways to ban a lot of people, like banning people just for mentioning the name of the group. | /r/MGTOW | 16/12/17 04:15 AM |
| 1 | I think I an Incel, how can I make the transition to MGTOW?A. I suggest to stop judging your value based on your success at dating. Dating is just one part of a huge world. Which is more valuable to the world from you: (a) How well you do at dating?; OR (b) The skills that you have, the good that you can do in this world, how much you know, being a good person, etc.? I think it's pretty clear that (b) is more important to the world overall than (a). In my view, most people have a lot more control over (b) than (a), too. So, get working on (b) to be the … | /r/MGTOW | 15/12/17 03:46 PM |
| 3 | 50 year old woman struggles to understand why men her age might prefer twenty-somethings. Can't they see how "interesting, passionate, well-read, and intrepid" she is?She seems to not like that a woman can become socially invisible as she gets old. But did she ever consider the (estimated) 80% of guys who are invisible in the dating world during their entire dating lifetime? What does she think that would be like, and why no sympathy there? | /r/MGTOW | 15/12/17 06:35 AM |
| 2 | 50 year old woman struggles to understand why men her age might prefer twenty-somethings. Can't they see how "interesting, passionate, well-read, and intrepid" she is?I think that a lot of political online articles don't have comments anymore either. My guess is that they didn't like that regular people were able to share ideas that weren't the ones that the article was trying to propagandize. | /r/MGTOW | 15/12/17 06:26 AM |
| 9 | Just when they think they are shaming us,they expose MGTOW philosophy potentially [[ 200 000 men ]] XD , they do all the leg work for us AMUSING , all we do is WIN!They literally don't want people to feel free to choose one of the most important decisions in their life, that they have every right to choose. That's why they can't really make a good argument against the main idea of MGTOW. | /r/MGTOW | 15/12/17 06:18 AM |
| 6 | How I stopped a co-worker from being an orbiterI remember reading about the "beta orbiter" phenomenon when I really started learning about MGTOW. Now I can think of all the times that I saw guys acting that way, before I ever knew about MGTOW. Even though I didn't know a word for what they were doing, I remember how it often seemed awkward and weird. Looking back, it's so embarrassing remembering those nerdy guys hanging around those attractive women -- who would NEVER actually date them. Those nerdy guys trying to not look nerdy, trying to … | /r/MGTOW | 13/12/17 08:05 PM |
| 2 | Merriam-Webster's word of the year for 2017 is 'feminism'Was "cuck" their word of the year for 2016? It certainly seemed to be all over the place. | /r/MGTOW | 13/12/17 07:19 PM |
| 13 | Found on a toilet door at my UniversityI'd be fine with being a happily married guy if it actually was the way that guys have been told, such as basically: "Work hard, be a good person, be nice, and you'll find the woman of your dreams who feels similarly about you." But there are so many stories of it decidedly NOT being like that out there. Then people rip on MGTOW because guys get disappointed and walk away from dating. Why do they do that, while seemingly ignoring the real problems with the dating world? Do they think guys just r… | /r/MGTOW | 13/12/17 06:59 PM |
| 1 | Leaving this sub tonight. Thank you.What sense does it make it seperating women from the social world to the dating world? Its the same woman. Family doesnt count. I think it makes a big difference. I get along with lots of women, including relatives and co-workers. For both men and women, I get along with some people and not others. From my experiences, I find that it depends on each individual person. However, dating and romantic relationships are a special situation in society, where typical social rules don't apply. For exampl… | /r/MGTOW | 13/12/17 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Leaving this sub tonight. Thank you."YourLocalNincompoop" wrote: Well do YOU believe "Women operate on a very primitive level which hasnt changed since before Christ"? No, I don't believe in that statement. Not everyone on this group has the same opinions. I get along with lots of women. My complaints are about the dating world, not women. That being said, you can look at old books and see elements of human nature that still exist today, the different emotions for example. That's probably part of why the poster wrote that. I don't… | /r/MGTOW | 13/12/17 07:34 AM |
| 1 | Leaving this sub tonight. Thank you."YourLocalNincompoop" wrote: Oh yeah! Similar to Christianity!! Just believe whatever is taught from an old book! Oh yeah! just assume ... about women in an era you weren't even born in! ...! for all we know they probably had arrange marriages and women probably didn't even have rights to walk outside. xD lmaoo you are all stupid idiots. I didn't say to believe every single thing you read. Do you believe there was an American Civil War? Do you believe that certain countries exist that you can re… | /r/MGTOW | 13/12/17 07:12 AM |
| 9 | Today's Young Women IDOLISE Kardashian Trash...Says A Lot About Them! What Is Happening To Society...Nevermind - GYOW!!!I think I've told this story here before, but it's worth telling again. I had a good job in a big city and saved a lot of money by not having a car that I didn't need. I was talking on the phone to this woman that I had met on an online dating website. We were going to meet up in person for the first time, and I mentioned that I didn't have a car but I would take the subway out as far as I could to meet. Suddenly: "click" I tried to call back just in case it was an accidental disconnect, but the… | /r/MGTOW | 13/12/17 07:03 AM |
| 1 | Leaving this sub tonight. Thank you."YourLocalNincompoop" wrote: "Women operate on a very primitive level which hasnt changed since before Christ" What??? Were you born before Christ to know this for a fact??? lmaoo Have you ever believed that something happened even though you weren't there at the time to see it? Events from history or the newspaper? | /r/MGTOW | 13/12/17 06:25 AM |
| 2 | Post wall 37 year old regrets rejecting the "nice-guy".Why was I ignored? I believe it was what I looked like: average to below-average face, just average height, and I've been both thin and fat, but I'm never able to get very muscular. I'm not a particularly social person, but I really don't think that makes much difference. I've seen the guys that women really chased back in college, and the best explanation that I consistently saw for their success was what they looked like. I got serious trying to date, back in my early 20's. I mainly did online… | /r/MGTOW | 11/12/17 09:48 PM |
| 3 | She will text you back... EventuallyI did have one of my ex's try to communicate with me again once. I did not respond. I can't imagine ever responding if that ever happened again, even though she was attractive. I think she figured this out after the first try, and has not tried to communicate with me since. | /r/MGTOW | 11/12/17 06:09 AM |
| 7 | Dear incels, this is NOT your new r/incels.I think you are missing one of the key, and most helpful, MGTOW points: That you don't HAVE to judge yourself based on success in the dating world. I wouldn't doubt if a lot of guys out there actually DO THAT, but the point is that they don't have to be that way. If you are thinking about the example of a dateless guy, and wondering what difference does it make if he still wants to date or has walked away from dating (after all, he is dateless either way), I'd suggest to you that there is a HUGE… | /r/MGTOW | 11/12/17 05:35 AM |
| 20 | Dear incels, this is NOT your new r/incels.I post about going MGTOW because the dating world is unfair. Basically, I've walked away from it because it seems pointless. I also believe that society is not honest with people when it acts like there's "someone for everyone" out there. I see this as a perfectly legit form of MGTOW. Why should I have to be really attractive to women first, then go through a horrible divorce, in order to be considered a "real" MGTOW? I think a lot of guys here are attracted to women, and I think that many still… | /r/MGTOW | 11/12/17 05:10 AM |
| 31 | Guy Explains to a Picky Woman Why She Can't Find a Good Man - X-Post from r/theydidthemathAlso, the guy's response doesn't spend much time on that she is seeking a lot of the same characteristics as a lot of other single women out there. The relatively small number of guys that she would like, that would be willing to date her, are going to be the types of guys that lots of women would actually be chasing. What makes her think that she is at the top of the list over all these other women? | /r/MGTOW | 10/12/17 08:08 PM |
| 2 | Post wall 37 year old regrets rejecting the "nice-guy".You do see women in their 40's on online dating websites with nice photos (mainly early 40's). We don't know if those are photos from when they were 35. There is also a lot that can be done with makeup. I have seen middle-aged photos of one of my ex's online, and I noticed that they all seem to be using a LOT of makeup and sometimes even image processing. It makes her still look pretty good, but I think it also probably says a lot that none of her pictures give you a good look at what she "reall… | /r/MGTOW | 10/12/17 07:51 PM |
| 2 | I feel a little different.I think another way of describing it is dropping one's own false optimism. For a ridiculously high percentage of men, it seems that dating is really difficult; they almost have to beg to date anyone remotely attractive. And if they somehow are able to, then it is even more work to continue to date, and then lots of risks of bad experiences, with a good chance of it not working out. When guys hear about this openly being talked about, and assuming they aren't in the top 20% of guys, why would the… | /r/MGTOW | 08/12/17 11:39 AM |
| 2 | Cindy Crawford meets the wallMy "theory" is that they believe (or someone tells them) that they can make up for looking old by getting (even) thinner. It doesn't work. Instead of looking like an old woman, they look like an old woman with an eating disorder. It doesn't help when it looks like a pattern among many famous women. | /r/MGTOW | 05/12/17 09:09 AM |
| 1 | Body Positivity Bullshit...Does "body positivity" mean that they want fat to be considered good-looking? If so, I have a couple of comments about that. First, I think the need for that movement for women seems kind of manufactured. I don't think it was the men in the general public that pushed the eating-disorder-looking fashion models in magazines. A lot of guys are really flexible on weight. So they need to focus their "body positivity" on the fashion industry and not the general public, because I don't think the genera… | /r/MGTOW | 04/12/17 10:47 AM |
| 3 | What is the payoff for us?One of the themes that I got out of the original post is that I think the original poster is just tired of being disappointed with the dating world. That's basically what led me toward MGTOW, and I think it's a logical direction. After all, what's the alternative? Keep getting disappointed, over and over again? Of course, someone will say that, sooner or later, there won't be disappointment but a successful romantic relationship instead. So, anyone is free to keep trying for that. For me, I've t… | /r/MGTOW | 04/12/17 07:39 AM |
| 3 | Red flag to dating / relationshipsI'm a believer that romantic relationships need balance. I've seen it myself. The guy's expenses and debt can get out of control quickly when the woman doesn't pay a good share of the bills (in my case, she didn't even have a job). Another way the lack of balance creates issues is if the woman doesn't have a job. The woman has lots of time and is usually available to spend time when asked. But the guy can't be available all the time, if he has the job. This creates room for the woman to complain… | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/17 08:57 PM |
| 30 | “You’re so selfish!”: Paid $800 For Flights And Couldn’t Even See Tourist AttractionsThink how difficult it is for a lot of guys to find a romantic relationship with an attractive woman. But it should actually be easy, when you think of what the relationship is asking of the guy. Imagine if the original poster had gone with a regular friend on the trip. If the friend didn't want to see the tourist places, the friend could have just stayed behind at the hotel, or done something else for that day. Some really practical couples are capable of doing this as well; they are flexible e… | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/17 01:34 PM |
| 2 | Megyn Kelly - no shame.How are the ratings for her show? | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/17 05:00 AM |
| 3 | The Mask You Live In - a great documentary on our society and how it failed our young boys and men in generalI'm seeing the words "toxic masculinity" pop up more in the news lately. What exactly is it? Isn't it more productive to speak about actual events or behaviors (such as "so and so was rude at the meeting") instead of putting such a fuzzy term on it. It seems like it could mean anything that someone wanted it to mean, with respect to a guy's behavior. | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/17 04:29 AM |
| 3 | Describe 2017 as simply as possible: If you don't find this beautiful, you hate Jews.Serious question here: Anyone know how the really wacky fashion shows make money? I mean, 99.99999999% of the time, no one is going to dress like that outside of the fashion show. Do they charge admission to the events? Do they lose money on the wacky stuff, but use profits from the regular fashion industry to pay for it? If so, why? Is it that most of the shows are normal, but we usually only see the wacky stuff in the news? I mean, some of the stuff on the news is basically like weird Hallowee… | /r/MGTOW | 28/11/17 12:25 PM |
| 1 | I've considered myself a purplepill for a while, I've finally accepted the truth todayWhat can they possibly argue otherwise? That we shouldn't have the right to decide whether or not we want to be single? Biologically, socially, and culturally, men typically want to get married. I think that you've got to have a fair amount of bad experiences, as a guy, to cause you to go in a different direction. Even if they have the best intellectual argument against MGTOW in the world, that doesn't change the fact that I've got years and years of dating and romantic relationship experiences … | /r/MGTOW | 28/11/17 12:08 PM |
| 2 | Most Unattractive Woman that You Were Ever Rejected by?Wow, do you think that bearded ladies get lots of messages on there? | /r/MGTOW | 28/11/17 07:03 AM |
| 1 | Anyone else ever feel like just ending it already?First, you should talk with a doctor. I have heard that, if you are depressed, it can be very treatable. Aside from that, a lot of people have feelings of sadness and lack of direction too, I think. I think MGTOW can be difficult sometimes because it is like giving up on a dream for many of us -- but, for many of us, perhaps our original dreams simply were not realistic. It is probably natural to miss getting one's hopes up for the dating world. But you know, I think it's similar to getting old … | /r/MGTOW | 28/11/17 06:40 AM |
| 1 | End of your bloodlineLet's say that you have kids. All you have really done is extended your "bloodline" further by one generation. It's possible that none of your kids would have kids. Thus, you could be taking on all the expense, work, and risk of having a family, with the "bloodline" ending anyway. I have a lot of relatives, and a large percentage of them are not having kids. No one is having a huge family. I think it's just becoming more expensive, and more difficult to get one's family to turn out well. Obvious… | /r/MGTOW | 27/11/17 12:19 PM |
| 3 | I have a feeling there will be more younger men becoming MGTOW. Some of them may be MGTOW and not even know about the movement.I don't think that being MGTOW means that you can't ever find women attractive again, on a biological level. But it does mean that you choose not to seriously follow such attraction, at least not on the level of a serious long-term romantic relationship. I think a good reason to go MGTOW is that one realizes that a good romantic relationship probably does not exist for them out there. That doesn't mean that they wouldn't like for that to be the case. But why go chasing after unrealistic hope? | /r/MGTOW | 27/11/17 03:05 AM |
| 2 | Superbitch mother tries to get school to ban Sleeping Beauty because she never consented to being kissed.Here's how you fix the "Sleeping Beauty" cartoon for modern times. Just change the ending! As the Prince is about to kiss "Sleeping Beauty," some nerdy guy in glasses goes, "You can't kiss her! She can't give consent!" Prince: "Oh my, I guess you're right!" Someone else: "But the kiss is the only way to break the curse!" Nerdy guy: "Doesn't matter! He can't do it!" Prince: "Do you think she would have consented, if she could, to break the curse?" Nerdy guy: "NO! NO! NO! Stop it! What's wrong wit… | /r/MGTOW | 26/11/17 12:33 PM |
| 3 | Charlie Rose fired by CBS, PBS and Bloomberg over sexual misconduct allegations | No trial, just accusations.Anyone else wonder if there's something going on in society that we aren't being told, with respect to all these stories in entertainment and politics? I mean, we've never seen anything like this before. Are we to believe that ten women or so speak up, then everyone feels safe, and now the dam is overflowing? How would that all change overnight? I mean, every day, it seems like there's one or two more people accused. So, let's say that some of these women didn't speak up before because they were… | /r/MGTOW | 22/11/17 09:48 AM |
| 12 | We've been doing everything wrongThe title of that article -- from my long time attempting (and mostly failing) to be successful in the dating world, it is difficult for me to imagine a statement that seems more false to me than the title of that article. It's so bad, I think it's actually harmful to guys to read that statement, because it might mislead them and confuse them regarding how the dating world works. Then they will find it not to be that way and be very unhappy. I'll explain it this way: I was basically the nicest o… | /r/MGTOW | 22/11/17 09:19 AM |
| 1 | Women dropping red-pills on you before you knew about MGTOW?Even though I could easily afford a car, I've gone long periods of time without a car before, because I lived in a big city and didn't need one. It would have been a huge waste of money. I had a dating website profile back then which mentioned that I didn't have a car. (It was a part of the standard profile, believe it or not, what does that tell you?) I actually had a random woman email me one day just to comment on my not having a car, something along the lines of how could one manage and/or h… | /r/MGTOW | 22/11/17 09:04 AM |
| 2 | Women dropping red-pills on you before you knew about MGTOW?Yep, the whole dating system just isn't fair, and I doubt that anything will reasonably be done about it, if anything could. I think it's a biological thing. The only thing guys can really do to protest is walk away. And even some Chad's are here too, walking away. | /r/MGTOW | 22/11/17 08:46 AM |
| 1 | Parent company of Kay, Jared and Zales’ diamonds stock fell 30% today, the worst performance in 25 years. CEO attributes losses to hurricanes and weak sales on engagement and wedding rings.What about a keychain ring for the ring? With some dried used bubble gum for the "jewel"? ;-) | /r/MGTOW | 22/11/17 08:10 AM |
| 18 | 40,000! Behold, the Age of MGTOW cometh. It's been my honor serving with you all.Whoa, dude. How much money did you spend on fireworks? | /r/MGTOW | 22/11/17 07:54 AM |
| 3 | 40K Gentleman!!It's gonna be bigger than surfing, everyone! SURFING! | /r/MGTOW | 22/11/17 07:52 AM |
| 3 | Younger women rarely acknowledge me.It comes across as a form of what I've heard called "The Silent Treatment." And by petting the dog, it's a way of making it look even more like she is ignoring him on purpose, instead of just shy, etc. I mean, that might not be the case, but that sure is how it looks. Bottom line, there are good people (men and women) out there. But there are also some unbelievably messed up people (men and women) out there. Unless she has some incredibly unusual medical condition that caused her to act that way… | /r/MGTOW | 21/11/17 09:33 AM |
| 2 | The men who go to Ukraine looking for a wife then fly home alone and brokeSome guys that try to do that HAVE researched it a lot and can give you lots of reasons that they believe it could be successful for them. I can't say that it could never work, but I sure think it would make sense to be VERY CAREFUL about getting ripped off, and also to not get one's hopes up very high. What saddens me about it are the guys who are unrealistic about it. I mean, think about it. These are probably guys who have basically given up on finding a bride in their home country but can't … | /r/MGTOW | 20/11/17 11:14 AM |
| 1 | Every Internet Nerd GirlWhat is wrong with these men? Honestly, I believe that they just need someone that they trust to tell them: (a) At best, anything that they could (honestly) say will probably only help them attract a woman mildly. But there's a pretty good chance that it won't make any difference or could even freak the woman out if what they say is too weird. Plus, some of the stuff they wrote would probably embarrass them if anyone else they knew read it. (b) That they don't need to be that way. They don't nee… | /r/MGTOW | 20/11/17 10:41 AM |
| 11 | The Guardian - "It's a shame men aim for younger women because women between 45 and 55 are arguably more sexually mature and able to give a lot more pleasure than, say, a woman of 25." (xpost from r/whereareallthegoodmen)When I did online dating, as I got older, I was willing to date older. When I started to search for 45-year-olds, it's really noticeable how the appearance changes. ESPECIALLY the ones who look like they tanned and smoked cigarettes. It's sad because I might have really wanted to date them when they were in their thirties -- but they wouldn't have wanted to date me. Now they would probably be willing to date me, but I wouldn't be attracted to them. And this is no doubt often with makeup on, and … | /r/MGTOW | 20/11/17 07:50 AM |
| 2 | Women have never been interested in me, so...There is a view that some people have here that you actually have to be able to attract women and then choose to go MGTOW. I tend to go with the counterargument to that, in that, if a guy gets increasingly flexible with his standards, then he will find someone that he is able to date, sooner or later. I'm thinking that if you went to a dating website, and picked out the top 30 most unattractive women in a 50-mile radius from you, and wrote them each a very nice customized introduction email, tha… | /r/MGTOW | 20/11/17 06:05 AM |
| 1 | A female stumbles across r/MGTOW, analyzes our posts on "What shocked you most about women?" thread & writes an article to declare her thoughts: "I wish I had some sort of profound statement to make on all of this, but, honestly, I don’t think it justifies one."I didn't read the article; I'm just responding to the quote in the original post's subject. If she doesn't like MGTOW, one way that she can help increase it is to decide that it doesn't "justify" her trying to understand it. | /r/MGTOW | 19/11/17 06:44 AM |
| 1 | Has a woman ever called you ugly? Share your storiesI once had a woman that I was talking to online tell me that she was just having trouble getting past my nose. As if, if only my nose were different and better. She otherwise really seemed to like my online dating profile, and actually seemed to be struggling with the whole nose issue. I'm not joking. Also, another interesting thing, she wouldn't show me a picture of herself but told me how good-looking that she was considered. A while into the future, she did put a photo on her dating profile. … | /r/MGTOW | 18/11/17 12:47 PM |
| 8 | MakeApp - Women not happy with app that shows what they look like without makeup"...the value of a person has nothing to do with what they look like." If this is the case, then why is it that, again and again, I see good-looking people with horrible personalities have an easy time getting dates, and nice, average-looking people not being able to date attractive people? They need to recognize reality here. This is one reason why we have so many disappointed guys. They were told that the system is fair and kind, and it's the person's character that counts. But then they find … | /r/MGTOW | 15/11/17 10:41 AM |
| 1 | I think the reason why incels and the overall bitterness of millennial male incels (especially late millennials born in the 90s) is not as much because they are ugly, but more so...It's possible for a guy simply to change what he wants. It's not something that cannot be changed. For example, I do not want the exact same set of things that I wanted fifteen years ago. In some cases, I want things now that I never would have even considered fifteen years ago because my financial situation is now better. There was also a sport that I had a major interest in fifteen years ago, and now I barely follow it because I simply had my "fill" of it, and it has gradually faded out of my … | /r/MGTOW | 15/11/17 10:20 AM |
| 3 | Hilarious Irony of MGTOW?Is that why some guys are called "beta orbiters"? | /r/MGTOW | 15/11/17 09:11 AM |
| 2 | Dude Gets Red Pilled, Goes to /r/IncelTears to Complain About How We're RightIf MGTOW is right for a person, I think it's much worse to try to resist the natural pull toward it, than to just accept it. Let's say he tries to forget MGTOW. If he had trouble with dating before, forgetting MGTOW isn't going to change it. His hair transplant may help, but I'm not sure how much. It's possible that it doesn't help as much as he would like. He could still be a MGTOW that dates, and have it both ways: if he's still not 100% on MGTOW, he can still date, but if he's trying MGTOW to… | /r/MGTOW | 15/11/17 04:17 AM |
| 3 | Are we about to see a rapid increase in MGTOW, like the Herbivore men in Japan?I think the environment is already in place for MGTOW to spread greatly. I think the only reason that it hasn't happened all at once is because it takes time for the idea, the information, to spread. I think a lot of guys have had a history of bad experiences with dating and romantic relationships. You take guys like that, and have them spend some time on this group, and I think that a fairly high percentage of them become MGTOW. It would spread itself, I think. Why? My theory is: (1) Before vis… | /r/MGTOW | 14/11/17 07:15 AM |
| 1 | Are we about to see a rapid increase in MGTOW, like the Herbivore men in Japan?I think that incel group stuff accelerated things even more than they already were accelerating. We are going to reach 40,000 very soon I think. | /r/MGTOW | 14/11/17 06:53 AM |
| 8 | They really don’t give a fuck about you, so they?I did it in a moment of weakness. And how did she respond? Exactly. Brushed it off like i didn’t ... exist. Why? Why do they act like that? If a human being told you that they missed you, as a man, you would at least acknowledge it. I'm a guy, and my ex tried to communicate with me a year after the breakup, and I didn't respond. Why? It was a bad breakup. It seemed as though she was trying to get back together. If I had wanted to still be with her, I never would have broken up with her. Therefor… | /r/MGTOW | 12/11/17 09:33 AM |
| 2 | Bar girlWouldn't it be funny if they made a 1990's-style "Mentos" candy commercial out of this? With the Mentos song playing? And at the moment when the guy thought MGTOW, if that was the same moment that he eats a Mentos candy in the commercial? | /r/MGTOW | 12/11/17 09:08 AM |
| 1 | He is a human not an atmIt looks like people downvoted my joke -- they didn't like it. On a side note, who makes those things (the original picture), how, and why? It looks like an expensive professional photograph. I don't see how someone makes money off making one of these to pay for all that (and the work of producing it). Or is there some collection of free-to-use images that they access to make these? Or do they just find and use whatever image they please from online? Are they allowed to do that? Does the woman k… | /r/MGTOW | 11/11/17 06:31 PM |
| 2 | He is a human not an atmBasically, I understand asking people to be polite, but the original post is so concerned about the word "hot" that I wonder if they are even aware that people insult each other in the worst ways imaginable, online and offline, on a daily basis. | /r/MGTOW | 11/11/17 06:20 PM |
| 2 | He is a human not an atmI was being somewhat sarcastic with the "personality is the only thing that matters" stuff. I'm not sure if that came across in the post. Actually, in a perfect world, people would be able to make up for a bad appearance with a great character, in the dating world. I don't really see that happening though. | /r/MGTOW | 11/11/17 06:08 PM |
| 0 | He is a human not an atmALSO, IS THAT THE FACE OF A LHASA APSO GHOST IN THE PICTURE, FLOATING TO THE LEFT OF HER FACE? BY GOSH, IS THIS FINALLY THE PROOF THAT SCIENCE REQUIRES THAT GHOSTS EXIST???? | /r/MGTOW | 11/11/17 10:14 AM |
| 47 | He is a human not an atmI know they are trying to push politeness, but do they have any idea how bad a lot of people have been yelled at and/or mocked at various times in their lives? Even just look what people call each other online when they get mad or are trying to insult each other. And here they seem so concerned that guys say "beautiful" instead of "hot." From what I have seen in the dating world, if the woman really likes the guy, much of the time she would not care about something like that, especially if she k… | /r/MGTOW | 11/11/17 10:12 AM |
| 1 | They're trying to destroy Louis CKThe only thing about that idea though is that it's likely all Democrats accusing Democrats, right? I can't imagine Trump or his supporters have much influence in Hollywood to have anything to do with any of this stuff coming out right now. What do you think? | /r/MGTOW | 10/11/17 03:36 PM |
| 23 | They can't accept that we've found happiness in this way, while they're struggling to be happy in their relationships.Honestly, to some people, if this REALLY catches on, like it's all over the news, and hardly anyone is dating anymore, this is probably going to really bother some people, like if all the insects started going extinct or something like that. The romantic relationship is a long-time core shared part of much of humanity. Even people that never get married often want to, or at least they often don't actively walk away from it. Especially older people, I think, aren't going to understand the current… | /r/MGTOW | 10/11/17 03:30 PM |
| 2 | They're trying to destroy Louis CKAlso, mainstream media, which seems normally very friendly with Hollywood, doesn't seem to have any issue with reporting these latest Hollywood issues. Normally I've noticed that they seem to ignore stories that they don't want people to know about, or seem to also report stories making sure to defend one side (presumably someone on their side). So I don't buy that these famous Hollywood people are getting reported on unless mainstream media wanted to report on them in this way. Now of course, f… | /r/MGTOW | 10/11/17 08:10 AM |
| 8 | They're trying to destroy Louis CKI don't know much about this Louis guy, and I also don't really care much for Hollywood anymore, but does anyone else find it strange that all this stuff is wrecking Hollywood in a matter of weeks? It's literally like someone flipped a switch and decided that Hollywood would be turned against. It reminds me of the stuff they did about Trump (with respect to women) right before the election; I remember how it seemed so staged how all that would happen right before the election. Well, I'm not a fa… | /r/MGTOW | 10/11/17 04:08 AM |
| 1 | I first looked at this sub from all the SJWs that are saying now incels is banned this sub is gonna be next butAs you know, a normal reddit group is not a centralized, organized activity. Thus, whatever gets posted is what gets posted. If people want to talk about bad divorces, that's what gets posted. There are posts here about what you are talking about, and even people here have complained that they want more self-improvement posts. But no one can order those posts to magically appear. Someone has to do the work to write that. I can tell you that if I'm going to write a knowledgeable article about how… | /r/MGTOW | 10/11/17 03:39 AM |
| 3 | I'm Seriously Beginning to Think that 99% of Women CheatMaybe you are in that legendary top 20% of guys (if you are a guy) that people talk about on this group (even if you don't realize that you are). Some people here believe that a guy can have a successful long-term romantic relationship if he is a top guy and chooses the correct woman. Of course, you have to understand that much of the "unofficial" concepts that are discussed on this group are generalizations or "rules of thumb." I think a lot of the misunderstanding about this group comes from t… | /r/MGTOW | 09/11/17 05:42 PM |
| 2 | Just so you guys know, Cucktears is on your case. Don’t let them defeat you like how they defeated incels.I mainly visit only two reddit groups anymore. Both of them are associated with conservative politics and thus may someday be shut down. If that happens, I won't have any use for reddit. I'd happily pay for a premium account for a website that DOESN'T take sides in politics. | /r/MGTOW | 08/11/17 04:10 PM |
| 24 | Incels you are not welcome on MGTOW because *We are men going our own way by forging our own identities and paths to self-defined success; cutting through collective ideas of what a man is.*Keep in mind that basically anyone can post anything here, so whatever gets posted doesn't necessarily define MGTOW. People here have said that they would like to see more self-improvement posts here, but somebody has to do the work for that. In my opinion, we see more discussion of news stories, the direction of society, and individual life experiences because it is a whole lot easier to write about those things than it is to be enough of a self-improvement expert to be able to give advice to o… | /r/MGTOW | 08/11/17 08:34 AM |
| 10 | Just so you guys know, Cucktears is on your case. Don’t let them defeat you like how they defeated incels.A lot of people on reddit actually don't like reddit and would be happy to have an excuse to go somewhere else anyway, to be honest. I'm not just saying this either. It's amazing how many people use reddit that are really really negative when talking about it. | /r/MGTOW | 08/11/17 05:29 AM |
| 3 | How come it easy to get women in relationships back in the day??I think it's probably true that women aren't physically attracted to around 80% of guys. Years ago, I think this was masked by that there were more long-term marriages, and that there was a greater economic advantage to women of being married, and staying married to the same guy. So, once those top 20% of guys basically all got married, my guess is that women had to be more flexible and marry a guy whom she actually was not very attracted to -- because the guy could make up for it as an economic… | /r/MGTOW | 06/11/17 06:34 AM |
| 1 | It's not the anthem protests- it is the feminization of football. The pink uniforms, the female analysts, refs etc- what used to be men's turf is now all about making women comfortable.I think you see it a lot with cutting work hours of employees in retail. My guess is that profit goes up for a while, because labor costs went down and customers haven't figured out yet that they can't find help in the store anymore, and the store shelves haven't yet become a disorganized mess. But when those those things happen, then I think profit goes bad...and I think it's often very difficult to get those customers to give the store another chance, even if the store reforms. | /r/MGTOW | 06/11/17 06:00 AM |
| 2 | Repost: Idea: Chad Thunder****: The MovieHow's this for a scene? While rampaging across the American West on his motorcycle, Chad stops at a "watering hole" (that is, a bar). The bar is owned by a husband and wife. Husband is away. The wife is immediately overwhelmed by Chad's "Chadliness" and begins flirting with him. Suddenly she notices the wedding ring on her finger (not that Chad noticed or even cared). She turns away and tries to pull the ring off, but she's one of these people who let her finger grow around the ring. So she quic… | /r/MGTOW | 05/11/17 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Thought Experiment: Becoming Deliberately HomelessThere are books about what you are talking about, that are pretty easy to find. Interesting to read too. They've already explored the line of thought that you are talking about, for you. :-) | /r/MGTOW | 05/11/17 06:58 AM |
| 4 | This sub after reaching 30k+ subsThe best way to make sure that the types of posts that you like show up on here is to make those types of posts yourself. People like different things, so I'm not sure that you'd want perfectly on-topic types of posts removed, just because there are a lot of that type of post. A really, really high-quality post about how to do things takes time and effort. I think these are the types of posts that people say they want to see, but they are also probably the most difficult posts to create well. If… | /r/MGTOW | 02/11/17 10:52 AM |
| 1 | "Feminist" height shames short guysIn my opinion, you've got to find your confidence from something other than dating. I think we can agree that the dating system is totally unfair, right? Imagine if someone judged other people for any other purpose, the way they pick a date for themselves? Like hiring for an office job based on what the person looks like. They'd probably be considered to be doing a horrible thing, right? So if the dating world is so unfair, why are you letting it control how you feel about yourself, especially i… | /r/MGTOW | 02/11/17 10:29 AM |
| 3 | Been on the fence about MGTOW. Last night I had a conversation with a radical feminist that changed my mind.She probably goes back to the same strategy of arguing whenever she's not winning an argument. There's not much you can really do about someone who is arguing in bad faith, other than don't waste your time trying to have a serious discussion (at least on those subjects) anymore. They didn't really win the argument -- maybe they'll someday notice that people don't bother debating with them for very long. | /r/MGTOW | 02/11/17 09:16 AM |
| 5 | Been on the fence about MGTOW. Last night I had a conversation with a radical feminist that changed my mind.Please don't think of this as being disagreeable, but it's "kebab." | /r/MGTOW | 02/11/17 09:03 AM |
| 1 | [Suicide Fuel] This is why most short guys are incel...It looks like DopeMeme_Deficiency just went through a fair amount of effort to give you a lot of advice. Even if you go MGTOW, the stuff about taking care of your health and learning as much as you can is really valuable. You sound like you might be a college guy, and that reminds me of myself when I was in college. Women basically never liked me, and I so much wanted to have a romantic relationship with a beautiful woman, but I was so frustrated that that seemed impossible for me. I wish that I… | /r/MGTOW | 31/10/17 09:05 AM |
| 5 | I saw my ex for the first time in 5 years...Totally. My view was, I was going to make the decision to break up or not, but I would stick with whatever decision I made. None of this getting back together two more times in the future. If I really wanted to be with her, I never would have broken up with her. | /r/MGTOW | 31/10/17 07:37 AM |
| 13 | Interesting list of "MGTOW is..." on google.comThe negative reaction to MGTOW is always interesting. How can they be against someone being able to choose whether they want to be single? If a person weren't allowed to decide something like that for themselves, that wouldn't be very much freedom in life. | /r/MGTOW | 31/10/17 07:33 AM |
| 28 | I saw my ex for the first time in 5 years...My most serious ex tried to communicate with me again about a year later, after the breakup. I made sure not to write back because it was a bad breakup. I then heard that she was going through some particularly bad personal problems, so it all made sense: she probably needed someone to give her a free place to live. She was quite attractive, but came with what seemed like about a million problems. Which is probably why she was "settling" for me of course, when other attractive women wouldn't. LO… | /r/MGTOW | 31/10/17 07:23 AM |
| 2 | Is there other places I could have my own space? In case, REDDIT shut MGTOW downI've been seeing a lot of reports of different types of censorship of free thought over the past year, and it seems to be increasing over the past few months. There already are alternatives to all of those websites -- they just aren't as big yet. The more free thought is censored, the less valuable those websites will be. People will migrate somewhere else. For some reason, people think that a big Internet company these days can never ruin themselves. Well, go back in time, the late 90's and 200… | /r/MGTOW | 29/10/17 06:48 AM |
| 2 | The moment you realized you were done?Keep in mind that a lot of us guys were never told that starting out as friends with a woman very well may NOT lead to a romantic relationship. Especially if that's the only way an attractive woman will talk to him, it's very easy for a guy to fool himself into thinking that is the way -- after all, his only other alternative is being alone, which is bad for him if he has never learned about MGTOW. Some guys "share notes" with lots of other guy friends, or they read about relationships from cert… | /r/MGTOW | 27/10/17 08:00 AM |
| 2 | 8 Mile is a must watch movieI think that he lost touch with his old self too. Who is he to tell us all whom to vote for? Does he think that he is some wise old philosopher now? He is an ENTERTAINER. I wouldn't even have an issue with him having political opinions if the song didn't come across as propaganda, if his opinions didn't sound like something straight from the Democratic Party, and if he came across as having actually researched all political sides. Didn't he also basically say that his fans had to choose him or T… | /r/MGTOW | 26/10/17 07:42 AM |
| 1 | Just found out my cousin is getting divorcedJust my opinion here. I think there's a few challenges with marriages working out these days: Lack of commitment - People can always divorce if it doesn't work out. Yes, they might not have thought about it when they married, but surely they know that if things get no fun anymore, they can always leave. If it were more difficult to divorce, I'm thinking people would be more careful about whom they married. Although I have to say, it's probably better that society doesn't pressure people who can'… | /r/MGTOW | 26/10/17 07:21 AM |
| 8 | 8 Mile is a must watch movieI liked some of his songs, years ago. Wow, did that ever change my opinion of him. So, we have a President that the mainstream of both major parties worked against, plus mainstream news and entertainment. And then Eminem joins up with the mainstream? That just doesn't seem very Eminem-like. I knew that I wouldn't be able to stand watching his entire Trump rap, but what I saw seemed embarrassing to watch, as if he were rapping an outline of what to say from the Democratic Party. Did Eminem have n… | /r/MGTOW | 26/10/17 06:11 AM |
| 1 | Self actualization at a friends weddingBut more for a fear of missing out then actually wanting to be in a relationship. You know, these are actually very similar things. I'm guessing that you have a fear of missing out because of the thought that it might be nice to be in a romantic relationship. This is something that MGTOW really helped me with. The fear of missing out pretty much assumes that what you would want is actually out there for you to find. I can remember as a college guy deciding that it was time for me to really reall… | /r/MGTOW | 24/10/17 05:23 AM |
| 7 | Don't even say helloWow, this is a perfect example of why MGTOW is spreading so quickly. | /r/MGTOW | 23/10/17 01:43 PM |
| 2 | I just have been banned from /r/fuckthealtright for being a MGTOW. Since when we, the MGTOWs, are nazis?!...Keep in mind that any group with a political lean to it (or social/cultural like this MGTOW group) is going to have people who don't like it, who would wreck the group if they could. To put it another way, a checkers hobby group is probably going to ban someone who comes in there ripping on checkers and trying to mess with the group. It's not that they are against freedom of speech, it's that that is not the place for ripping on checkers, especially if not done politely and in good faith (like h… | /r/MGTOW | 22/10/17 08:23 AM |
| 1 | MGTOW Movie Review - High Fidelity (2000)I believe that was the title. I just looked it up online, and it was apparently considered not much more than a commercial for Nintendo and other stuff. LOL | /r/MGTOW | 22/10/17 03:19 AM |
| 2 | Oculus RiftThey wouldn't know exactly what people/objects were in what places at what points in time, but maybe they could program it to make an educated "guess" as it runs the program. | /r/MGTOW | 21/10/17 11:30 PM |
| 2 | MGTOW Movie Review - High Fidelity (2000)When I was a youngster, I remember there was a movie, and one of its main selling points was that it had pre-release footage of one of the Super Mario Brothers video games! LOL! I remember one of my classmates back then said that he saw that movie and fell asleep in the theater! They should bring back that idea. Imagine: "Ordinary People 2" starring Clint Eastwood and Meryl Streep, with special bonus footage of the new "Grand Theft Auto" video game before it reaches store shelves!! :-) | /r/MGTOW | 21/10/17 11:19 PM |
| 3 | Why do people say that MGTOW are just jealous they can't find women?I mean, I can understand not every woman is going to be attracted to me, but you'd think there'd be some differences between women in what they like. I did the online dating for years, and I probably emailed hundreds of women on those websites during that time period. You would think that a few of them would like what I have to offer, but that just doesn't seem to be how it works. And I didn't even get into how, when I went MGTOW, I discovered that a lot of these guys that women liked weren't ev… | /r/MGTOW | 18/10/17 02:44 PM |
| 3 | Why do people say that MGTOW are just jealous they can't find women?Neither. Just pointlessness. Let's do a sports example. Let's say that someone learns to play baseball, but they have poor physical genetics for the game. They can practice every day, and they'll never be half as good as a lot of the people can be without even practicing. Now some people can enjoy playing for fun and don't care about winning. But for a lot of people, they wouldn't have much fun playing baseball on any kind of serious level. Because it would be a pointless waste of time to them. … | /r/MGTOW | 18/10/17 04:51 AM |
| 7 | Why do people say that MGTOW are just jealous they can't find women?I'm not jealous. Good for anyone who finds a romantic relationship and is happy. For me, I don't date because I tried it for a very long time, and it was pointless. All kinds of work, just to learn that almost none of them cared about me. They wanted certain guys, and that's that. The one that acted like she actually cared about me -- she had a lot of problems, and I think she was just "settling" for me (probably temporarily). Also, she did seem to be with me for a specific reason of trying to u… | /r/MGTOW | 18/10/17 04:37 AM |
| 19 | After graduating Harvard at 16, the man with the highest IQ ever achieved told reporters he wished to live the perfect life, which meant celibacy and seclusion from the world. The world's smartest man was MGTOW.A guy may not be like them, but he can still find their insights useful. It's like a computer chip. A guy may not be smart enough to invent one or understand how it works, but he can still have the advantages from being able to use a computer that someone else invented. As for some guys still needing social interaction, some MGTOW still date, and of course you can still have friends. That's still closer to being like some of these geniuses than a regular person who gets married. | /r/MGTOW | 14/10/17 02:45 PM |
| 8 | This is it, guys. This is it.I think a lot of it has to do with what options the woman has. If it's an emergency (for example, she was told to leave her most recent guy's apartment), I'm thinking that she may be contacting every past romantic relationship for whoever will take her back. | /r/MGTOW | 13/10/17 01:45 PM |
| 2 | Since majority of college students are now women, few remarks about the bubble that is in a process of making.I think much of the college education process could be made MUCH cheaper, if the goal were to design it to be that way. Also, why give loans for degrees that are not in demand in the working world? If it's just a hobby, they can buy books and read about it on their own. Also, more internships -- so often, people never needed to know entire classes that they took in college, and still had to learn from working the later job anyway. | /r/MGTOW | 11/10/17 11:50 AM |
| 2 | Too much of men's self-worth depends on how successful they are with womenWith online dating, it takes basically zero confidence to ask for a date. A lot of guys have been in that guy's situation. I think that he's just stuck thinking the way that he thinks that he is supposed to think. Guys think that dating is like most things in the life: The harder you try, the more success that you will have. So I think they figure that the bigger deal that you treat a woman as, the more likely that she will like the guy in return. I think that a lot of guys also get the idea tha… | /r/MGTOW | 10/10/17 07:41 AM |
| 3 | Apparently, women pranking men is "fair game"; men pranking women is "horrible!" Foodie Calls vs. Pulling a PigRipping off guys to get free meals will just make guys less likely to treat women to free meals. They may think that what they are doing is funny, but they are helping to spoil it for women long-term. If that sort of thing becomes widespread, guys might even quit "treating" women who were not looking to rip them off. Does the article not see that this is where that sort of thing leads? It sounds from the comments here that the article is actually encouraging and justifying such behavior. Seems r… | /r/MGTOW | 10/10/17 06:59 AM |
| 2 | What up with all these shitty "where are all the good " articlesI've come to the conclusion that if women actually liked me, they would have liked me back when I was in college. Well, they didn't then. So even if one acted like she liked me now, my guess is that it would just be to get access to my resources, such as money. For the women unhappy that they can't find a "good man," how is that any different from what so many guys like me went through, throughout our adult lives? At least a lot of these women got to have some fun with the dating game in their t… | /r/MGTOW | 09/10/17 08:25 AM |
| 1 | It's Happening, Guys! The full-on Defense, justification, and glorification of women committing adultery. This isn't from some land whale's Blog, this is from CNN.I've been noticing fewer and fewer mainstream news sites with comments sections. I guess too many regular people were able to "ride along" with the news sites' popularity and either point out things that articles were poor about, or spread alternative opinions. It looks like these media people just want to be able to force their opinions into everybody's brains, with no competition in ideas from other people. | /r/MGTOW | 07/10/17 12:07 PM |
| 2 | I feel like the more time goes by and the deeper I get into it the more MGTOW makes more sense to me.I don't think all guys on here blame women for everything bad. But what would you say to a guy for whom every experience with dating or romantic relationships was bad -- and I'm not talking 10 bad experiences, I'm talking years of disappointment and nothing good ever happens. I don't think that person should be negative toward women, but I don't blame them for thinking that they have been wasting their time (for whatever reason) and moving on to something else, like career focus instead of datin… | /r/MGTOW | 07/10/17 11:53 AM |
| 2 | How did/do you overcome what other people think/say about you?My advice would be to associate as rarely as possible with the gossips. The less that you are around them, probably the less that they will be on your mind. And probably the less that they will think to talk about you. If it's a college or apartment situation, where you are living near them, that's about the worst situation, in my opinion -- the healthiest thing may be to move if you can. If you can't move right away, you can keep a schedule where you rarely see them. For example, if you are in … | /r/MGTOW | 07/10/17 11:24 AM |
| 3 | Popped into a local singles group on facebook. Yeah, no. I'm hitting my back button now. No interest in being a slave to a self entitled ho. This is commonly accepted behavior in the singles community in 2017.A lot of guys do that. They think that is what will attract women to them -- even if that "technique" fails over and over again. I believe what would help them is, after it has failed many times for them, for some other guy to just tell them, "Hey, what you're doing doesn't work." As silly as it sounds, I think many of them just need someone to tell them what should already be clear to them. And then introduce them to MGTOW, so they know that it's going to be okay. | /r/MGTOW | 07/10/17 02:23 AM |
| 1 | Female Sports reporter has fake outrage (Cam Newton - NFL)I think they view saying something as being more major than the thought that would lead to it. | /r/MGTOW | 06/10/17 04:30 AM |
| 5 | Anyone else disgusted with the 40 Year Old Virgin Movie?I enjoy that movie, but I can understand how it's not MGTOW. I highly doubt that the movie-makers had a clue about MGTOW philosophy. However, it is somewhat heartwarming and funny, and you have to give them credit that the main character is actually supposed to be a really good guy. That being said, they certainly get nowhere near the idea that maybe he should respond to being rejected by women for so many years by walking away himself, rather than happily joining the dating system at a moment's… | /r/MGTOW | 06/10/17 03:40 AM |
| 4 | Simply going to college immediately red pilled meOh my gosh, I can't imagine what the shock would be like going from homeschooling immediately to a typical university (in my country anyway). Can I ask how everyone treated you (both the men and women)? There are some good people everywhere you go, but I saw a lot of the most careless, mean, nasty, unaccountable behavior in people in college -- and I stayed away from almost all of the social stuff there. Better to have friends who are other serious college students and focus on studying. | /r/MGTOW | 05/10/17 02:03 PM |
| 4 | Unmarried Men Are 'A Problem' For Society, Says Tory MP Iain Duncan SmithI won't be reading the article itself. It sounds like he understands tiny pieces of the situation but is not open-minded enough to see the big picture. He seems to get that guys will go in the direction that gives them the best deal in life. If you are going to be better off in life single, then why would you not choose being single? You don't need tons of degrees to figure this out. It sounds like his answer is either propagandize guys to accept a deal that they would not otherwise take, or som… | /r/MGTOW | 05/10/17 03:27 AM |
| 5 | "Doggie style" filterWell, not simply fixing things, although that is a useful skill, but also being creative, learning, and gaining new skills. | /r/MGTOW | 04/10/17 08:08 AM |
| 7 | "Doggie style" filterCorrect, maybe not everything (for example, space shuttle). I'm not saying we have to live like 2000 years ago. But if I had the time, I'd like to learn how to build and create more things myself, whether it's programming games, or creating music, or designing websites, or gardening, or getting better at fixing my home or vehicle myself. You'd be surprised what you can teach yourself. Just get a book and do whatever interests you. The main limit is time, and also money for expenses like equipmen… | /r/MGTOW | 04/10/17 05:59 AM |
| 2 | Since you have reduced your interest in relationships, do you still feel the same necessity to move out of your parents home?Look at it this way, would you rather give money to some landlord that is a stranger or a faceless corporation? Very expensive in a lot of places too...for what reason? To satisfy people that want you to live life "THEIR" way? You can take that money and put it to MUCH better use: pay off debt, save, invest, give it to your folks if you don't want to look like you aren't helping, or spend it on doing something nice for your folks. I think it makes more sense if you are MGTOW because you aren't t… | /r/MGTOW | 04/10/17 05:43 AM |
| 4 | "Doggie style" filterI wonder how much money some person made off creating this simple idea -- it wouldn't be that hard to think of stuff like this... | /r/MGTOW | 04/10/17 05:04 AM |
| 14 | "Doggie style" filterIf you think about it -- isn't that what consumer society is about? People working to get money to buy things that other people created -- instead of creating things themselves. | /r/MGTOW | 04/10/17 05:02 AM |
| 3 | The Young Turks ask: "Are Plummeting Marriage Rates A Bad Thing?"Didn't they support Bernie then Hillary? I don't understand that. Why would a Bernie supporter support Hillary after how Bernie supporters were treated during the 2016 Democratic primary season? I didn't ever watch their show very much, but I lost all interest when hearing that they supported Hillary after supporting Bernie. To me, that made no sense and discredited the value of their opinions (which is basically what their show is all about). I'm pretty sure that I have seen their show get call… | /r/MGTOW | 01/10/17 05:07 PM |
| 10 | A Locksmith Shares Some Very Interesting Observations That I Would Have Never Thought OfThis does not surprise me at all. After I broke up with my ex, I had the locks changed on my apartment THAT NIGHT. I had to call for emergency lock change service. I don't know what the chances were that my ex would have entered my apartment (to take things, for example) while I was at work the next day, but I did not want there to be much, if any, chance of that. I'm pretty sure that, upon finishing the job, the locksmith paused and asked, "Roommate?" I explained that it was an ex, then I asked… | /r/MGTOW | 01/10/17 04:37 PM |
| 5 | New York Times: "One radical fringe that is growing is Mgtow, which stands for Men Going Their Own Way and pronounced MIG-tow. Mgtow aims for total male separatism, including forgoing children, avoiding marriage and limiting involvement with women"Are there any political or social articles in mainstream media anymore that don't act like they are trying to tell people what to think? | /r/MGTOW | 28/09/17 06:19 AM |
| 2 | used-up women who find themselves lonely and single after uni are just "too smart" to find anyone to love them because "a sense of achievement derived from learning is alien to most men"I probably have more education than 95% of people. I believe that the education itself has almost no value in attracting women, because I had very little success with that. Oh, it may be a requirement for some women, but if the guy isn't good-looking, the education seems to make basically no difference. It's kind of like different categories of requirements, I think, in which you have to be above a certain level in each requirement, or it doesn't matter if you meet ANY of the requirements. | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/17 03:45 AM |
| 2 | Do any women not do drugs?The one drug user that I ever knew very well lied constantly, and was a total manipulator. I had no idea that such people really existed, until I met her. Of course, she hid the drug use at first and never admitted it as a problem. One reason that I didn't catch on to how much she was lying at first was because it was so unbelievable that a person could lie and misrepresent so much. To this day, I don't know if the drugs ruined her personality, or if she tried to cope with her personality proble… | /r/MGTOW | 26/09/17 07:07 AM |
| 4 | Guys who also have been MGTOW for 5years +I haven't been into the online MGTOW content deeply enough, or for long enough, to have a lot of "old-time" MGTOW names in mind. Obviously, we tend to remember some of the most common posters on this group, but honestly this group is more of a "team" effort to me -- it's more of the sum of everyone's posts that make the group what it is. The most important way that I have progressed is self-confidence and finding peace with myself. No more caring about if I ever get married, or even ever date ag… | /r/MGTOW | 25/09/17 06:38 AM |
| 6 | I would like to thank the community for helping me to see life for what it is.Before my one serious romantic relationship, I never realized how hard it was for people NOT to cheat, or how hard it was for them to simply TELL THE TRUTH about things that are important -- and to live honestly enough that it's easy to do that. I never caught my ex cheating directly, but I saw about as much as one could see that indicates it, without actually having proof. And there was enough other bad stuff about the relationship that it made total sense to break up anyway. I remember being a… | /r/MGTOW | 25/09/17 04:59 AM |
| 23 | Guy who owns a sex doll is shamed on Kimmel Tonight Show - gets called "weirdo", "creep", "gross" and "sad". When can we expect the same kind of show dedicated to vibrator users? I'll wait...I used to think Kimmel was funny, like on the "Man Show." I can't watch his show now; it's unwatchable to me. It just seems like propaganda anymore. Once a person feels that way about something, it's very difficult to reverse that. | /r/MGTOW | 24/09/17 08:39 PM |
| 4 | Midlife "crisis" = MGTOWAs a young guy, I remember watching MTV when they would have these big beach parties, I think it was spring break. (I don't know if MTV still does this.) I remember thinking how that was the sort of place that a young guy like me was supposed to be at, but also how far away I was from doing such a thing, and also how out of place I would have been (that is, how uncool I would be, among all those "cool-looking" people on TV). It made me feel somewhat frustrated and not as good about myself. Now t… | /r/MGTOW | 22/09/17 05:36 PM |
| 4 | Midlife "crisis" = MGTOWI do think that this can happen with romantic relationships, and that MGTOW can be a result. It's not just career goals that people go chasing after -- they also have ideas of the type of woman that they will marry and the type of home life that they will have. I think a lot of us guys, even average or below average guys as far as attracting women, all get it in their brains at some point that they will be able to marry an attractive woman. Even if the guy has very little evidence that most attr… | /r/MGTOW | 22/09/17 04:58 PM |
| 1 | Short girls' problems vs short men's problemsIs that Freddy Mercury in the cartoon? How'd he get in there? | /r/MGTOW | 21/09/17 04:40 AM |
| 7 | Welcome to the Finnish FempocalypseI understand about wanting to be single in order to have money to have amazing experiences and live comfortably. Compared to the added work and responsibility of having a family. I think the reasons why guys wanted to have a family made sense in the past. So they'd have a beautiful wife, who was loyal to them, and made them feel great about themselves. The wife wanted kids, and having a happy family made the wife happy, and all of that made the guy happy. The guy was in a place of great respect … | /r/MGTOW | 20/09/17 02:38 PM |
| 1 | Ex punched me twice. Received outpouring of support.I suggest avoiding her, and not communicating with her at all, from now on, unless you have a really good reason. If you have anything to do with people who have bad feelings toward you, you are putting yourself in a position where it is easier for them to create problems for you. | /r/MGTOW | 19/09/17 04:43 PM |
| 1 | What do guys seriously hope to gain by complimenting women's pictures on social media?I think that they think that it somehow actually helps them date, or at least get to know, the woman. I don't believe it makes much difference. Once you believe that it doesn't make much difference, it can get annoying to see, because it comes across as shameless kissing-up, not being informed, and a waste of time. These guys just need to be told that they don't have to be that way, and a little bit of life experience to show them that that type of behavior is pretty pointless. | /r/MGTOW | 17/09/17 08:18 AM |
| 2 | 'Study finds attractive women are more satisfied with less-attractive men' (maybe they know they will hit the wall soon?)I don't think it's impossible to make a marriage work -- there are probably millions of long-time marriages right now. But I think there is a lot of variation based on the guy/woman and how flexible the requirements of people in the marriage are. For me, I wanted someone whom I was really attracted to. Of course, many of us guys consider the same women to be attractive. Now, I'm not a particularly good-looking guy, but I had hoped that other good things about me could make up for that, or that t… | /r/MGTOW | 16/09/17 02:42 PM |
| 1 | Going GhostThere should be a Scooby-Doo episode where the ghost turns out to just be a MGTOW. | /r/MGTOW | 15/09/17 01:23 PM |
| 1 | "Dear Husband, If You Want More Sex, Here’s What To Do" -- LOL, I'D RATHER GET A HOOKER.The problem with advice like this is that I don't think it usually makes any difference. I've seen beautiful women dating arrogant stupid guys. If a guy isn't good-looking, he can be all caring and nice-nice, just like this article says, and does anyone think he's got a good chance at dating most guys' idea of a dream woman? It matters that they put articles like this out because guys actually think that it really works this way. After all, they think, why would anyone lie about something like t… | /r/MGTOW | 15/09/17 06:50 AM |
| 1 | 'Study finds attractive women are more satisfied with less-attractive men' (maybe they know they will hit the wall soon?)If you don't like reading about it, trust me, a lot of guys here wish they could believe that things were different from what they write about. In other words, it's not like they want it to be that way either. If you are saying that people here are overly focused on the role of attractiveness, here's my opinion on that: I think people write about these topics here out of disappointment and frustration. I think it helps them to write about it. A lot of us are actually not unreasonable with whom w… | /r/MGTOW | 15/09/17 03:12 AM |
| 5 | Watching HR Clinton evoke sexual discrimination for her failures is a cringe inducing nightmare of embarrassment.What specifically do you think she would have done that would have been better than Trump has done (or will do)? | /r/MGTOW | 14/09/17 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Why the collapse is inevitableI have heard this sort of thing said before, and have always wondered about some things. You seem to study it and maybe can answer my questions. You said that it's not clear who owns the Federal Reserve. However, if I'm not mistaken, if you go to "official" sources and typical textbooks, isn't the Federal Reserve owned by member banks? Like, they each have some shares in it, or something like that? If that's the case, then couldn't regular people own part of the Federal Reserve just by buying sh… | /r/MGTOW | 14/09/17 08:34 AM |
| 3 | How Many of You Have Ex's Trying to Boomerang back to you right now? Ill Start.I had an ex try to contact me quite a while after we had broken up. I found out that she had been going through some personal problems -- my guess is that she had probably just been dumped over them, and probably was looking for a new home in a hurry. Of course, as a guy, that's not exactly what I want to base a romantic relationship on. | /r/MGTOW | 14/09/17 08:18 AM |
| 3 | 'Study finds attractive women are more satisfied with less-attractive men' (maybe they know they will hit the wall soon?)Sounds like the article just says that it's basically looks that matter in the dating/romantic-relationship world. Oh, the attractive woman may be happier with the ugly guy, but it wouldn't be because she's happy that he's ugly, but rather that he's working super hard to make her happy, because she's pretty and he's ugly. So it does all still come down to looks. It's all pretty sad. We all get told, "It's what's on the inside that counts." Yet we all see how good-looking people get treated, comp… | /r/MGTOW | 14/09/17 07:59 AM |
| 16 | Watching HR Clinton evoke sexual discrimination for her failures is a cringe inducing nightmare of embarrassment.In my opinion, it would be difficult to imagine a campaign that had more advantages but made more mistakes. Even more, I think it was a type of campaign that was a very poor fit for this election season. Hillary might have won if it were still like 1992, with an undeveloped Internet and basically just the mainstream to get news from. Also, I think the average person was just plain much HAPPIER in 1992. So many people now don't feel like the mainstream is on their side. So of course the Democrats… | /r/MGTOW | 14/09/17 07:44 AM |
| 7 | Being treated as a utility because I'm single gets fucking oldEXACTLY. Some people act like, since you have some free time because you are single, that you've got lots of time to help them. It doesn't occur to them that maybe you like being single because of that free time, so you don't exactly want to use it all up. I think some of them even expect a MGTOW to buy an expensive car, expensive clothes, and a big house -- all things that a guy trying to attract women might do. Now, why in the world would I choose to still do the disadvantages of dating, with … | /r/MGTOW | 14/09/17 07:20 AM |
| 1 | Hit the wall Wednesday: Demi MooreI was going to ask about the non-smoothness of her skin. Is this a known common side effect of such treatments? | /r/MGTOW | 14/09/17 07:09 AM |
| 1 | Women reveal the reasons why the settled with one guy (nothing new, narrative confirmation)Well, I got the most serious romantic relationship that I ever had, by far, out of the whole thing. But it didn't work out. It turned out that she had all kinds of problems that she hid from me at first. Looking back, I figure that she was simply looking for a guy to support her financially -- she could have a high quality of life while the guy does most of the work, and she could basically do what she wanted while I was at work (I figure this might have included cheating on me). I did not think… | /r/MGTOW | 13/09/17 04:53 PM |
| 3 | Women reveal the reasons why the settled with one guy (nothing new, narrative confirmation)The most serious romantic relationship I ever had, by far, was also the only time an attractive woman ever really chased me. It was amazing, like a light switch had been flipped. Before then, nothing I did seemed to attract women. Then suddenly, this woman was happy with everything about me. It was like she made up her mind to go after me very early, and my unaware self (back then) really didn't understand what was happening. I should have wondered if it were too good to be true. | /r/MGTOW | 13/09/17 03:04 AM |
| 10 | what the fuck is wrong with this cuck?Is he asking for donations in his introduction? It looks like he may be. That would explain a lot: Pick a group of people who want to hear certain things, write what they want to hear, and maybe you'll get donations from them. You can find fault with anything if you go looking for it. Even something that doesn't have anything bad, you can say that it's simply not good enough. It's easy to write opinion because your opinion is what you decide it to be -- thus, there can't be a right or wrong answ… | /r/MGTOW | 12/09/17 02:14 PM |
| 3 | Naked woman parades through Italian city to prove she would be left alone – only to be hounded by a sleazy group of menWhat specific change to society was she working toward? It totally comes across like a gimmick to try to get attention for herself. | /r/MGTOW | 12/09/17 01:18 PM |
| 2 | Short guys aren't allowed to complain about anything..This group should raise the money to hire some 7'9" giant to star in a Youtube comedy REALITY show. The joke is that he poses as having nothing going for him other than his height, and is in fact rude to women on purpose, as well as all kinds of other bad behavior (again, on purpose, for humorous effect), yet the women all put up with it and chase him because he's 7'9"! I believe this would be one of the funniest reality shows of all time, and would make an important point too. Of course, the gi… | /r/MGTOW | 12/09/17 07:36 AM |
| 4 | Virtue signaling seen first hand, it's goddamn hilarious. (Wall o' text)It's easy to get pulled into debating this stuff when you're just trying to have fun at a social occasion. You shouldn't have had to defend yourself or explain your decisions in front of everyone like that. | /r/MGTOW | 11/09/17 04:04 PM |
| 7 | Honest questions from a skepticYou've got a lot in your post to respond to. Some people have already commented. I'll throw in the following comments: I suggest trying to avoid assuming that every opinion expressed on this group is necessarily part of MGTOW, even common opinions. The main MGTOW characteristic is just not getting married or having serious romantic relationships. So if you see some angry posts on here, don't assume that MGTOW is about being angry. That is just that one person's opinion. On 80/20. Maybe I'm incor… | /r/MGTOW | 11/09/17 10:13 AM |
| 1 | My high school reunion be likeI have heard of some of these reunions being canceled for lack of interest. There are senior citizens who still regularly attend their class reunions. I don't think it's going to be that way for newer generations. For example, when I was in high school, I remember a lot of the students being just plain mean and nasty to each other -- not a sense of community like the older folks had when they were younger. It was so much a competitive popularity contest. I was so glad when I graduated, although … | /r/MGTOW | 11/09/17 09:16 AM |
| 2 | This is what happens when your mind has been warped by fantastical romantic horseshit. Never sink to this level.Can't someone on this group who lives near there stop by and tell him about MGTOW? | /r/MGTOW | 11/09/17 08:57 AM |
| 4 | Hillary: I didn't win so Trump is a racist and people "don't want a woman commander and chief"Actually, with everything else being the same, I believe that a female Trump would have won against a male Hillary. In other words, I don't think it was about gender at all. | /r/MGTOW | 11/09/17 08:20 AM |
| 2 | Hillary: I didn't win so Trump is a racist and people "don't want a woman commander and chief"Try Google or Youtube or even the Bernie reddit group posts during the primary season (if they haven't been "edited" away), and you'll see all kinds of talk of "irregularities" during the Democratic primary season. I think there are also one or two books on Amazon regarding the topic. I have no idea if or how much weird stuff was going on, but it does seem like there should be, or should have been, a thorough investigation of the whole thing. | /r/MGTOW | 11/09/17 08:12 AM |
| 6 | Well gentlemen, I broke free.I know people here get very numb to any idea of romantic relationships, but your story really does have a sad side to it. It reminds me of when I did online dating before I went MGTOW. There'd be long periods of time where I wouldn't get a response to my messages at all. Then, once in a while, out of nowhere, someone would write back. Sometimes, we'd start chatting, online or on the phone. All of the sudden, I'd get my hopes up. There'd be all this excitement in that side of my life, where there… | /r/MGTOW | 11/09/17 06:18 AM |
| 1 | Realistic "Fuck You" Money: How much is enough ?One other thing, it is much easier to talk early retirement when one is talking about a very low-expense lifestyle. If it takes 30 years to save enough money to retire, it's not really early retirement anymore. The more one can drop living expenses (as you suggested), the more realistic early retirement can be. One of the most interesting books that I've seen on this topic is "Dirt-Cheap Survival Retreat" by M.D. Creekmore. It's interesting if you want to read someone's attempt to truly bring do… | /r/MGTOW | 11/09/17 05:52 AM |
| 1 | Realistic "Fuck You" Money: How much is enough ?Where did you hear that there is homesteading in Alaska? The only currently existing homesteading programs that I have heard of are in Yukon Territory (Canada) and Russia. | /r/MGTOW | 11/09/17 05:36 AM |
| 13 | Any beta orbiters around?How about "You can rent trucks." LOL :-) | /r/MGTOW | 11/09/17 04:41 AM |
| 1 | My MGTOW life in South East AsiaCould you get more into specific examples of why you don't want to live in North America? You must have had some really bad specific experiences, and maybe we could all learn something from you. | /r/MGTOW | 11/09/17 02:08 AM |
| 3 | Feminists officially declare all out war on the red pillI didn't read the article. Do they tell us what these "proper methods" would be? What's the big secret? Just tell guys how to attract women properly. I'm sure A TON of guys would like to know. In fact, just tell us what will definitely work, and I'm sure guys would be more than happy to use those "proper methods," that will let them attract whatever woman they would most like to marry. Of course, I doubt they will tell us such methods. Not that that would actually work anyway. That is the root o… | /r/MGTOW | 11/09/17 01:32 AM |
| 1 | Feminists officially declare all out war on the red pillThere's that new company, with the frog. The more they censor political/social speech, the more opportunity they create for companies that won't censor political/social speech. People will go to the places where there is free thought, and where they can find the political/social idea search results that they want. The surest way for an information company to decrease its worth is to provide less information. I don't know why these tech companies don't see this, when they start thinking about cen… | /r/MGTOW | 11/09/17 01:17 AM |
| 2 | Feminists officially declare all out war on the red pillI think it's pretty clear that journalism is propagandized, even though that's not supposed to be possible in a non-centralized society. Are we now supposed to believe that the most important scientific journals can't be propagandized and controlled? I have no idea if every single red-pill idea is true, but, after this election, I'm past the point of being persuaded by, "Because this scientific article says so," by itself. And that's sad if we can't trust the scientific community anymore. That s… | /r/MGTOW | 11/09/17 01:02 AM |
| 7 | MGTOW and The Lion KingI heard that "The Lion King" is all a big lie and didn't really happen. I heard that they just made it all up! Like, what the heck! | /r/MGTOW | 09/09/17 12:06 PM |
| 2 | Quit Measuring Yourselves By The Amount of Pussy You Can('t) GetMany of the physical (that is, not money) characteristics that attract women don't really make much difference outside of attracting women, for example, when one becomes MGTOW. And with money, that's an illusion of attraction anyway -- they don't really like the guy better, they just want some of his money! | /r/MGTOW | 08/09/17 10:02 AM |
| 3 | Women now fearing the wall in their early 20sI once dated a woman who was so worried about her weight that she'd hardly eat anything when we'd go out to a nice restaurant. I wouldn't have cared if she carried a bit more weight. I would have rather that she were able to enjoy eating out at a nice restaurant. So maybe the pressure was coming from somewhere (most likely herself), but the pressure to be thin was NOT coming from me. | /r/MGTOW | 06/09/17 04:27 AM |
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