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DiscussionvoteGOPk/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 04:13 AM
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DiscussionvoteGOPk/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 10:12 PM
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if she has a nice fat ass and tits, sure. that is always the answer for all these types of questions btw. men care about looks not social status or your accomplishments etc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 12:25 AM
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because we are still witnessing the relics of crypto-christian morality that was seeped into our culture for about 1300 years... i give it another century tops before we completely get rid of such morality and shame enforcement from religion in the west. I am not sure what will take its place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 04:23 AM
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testosterone in a 21st century world where means of creating new wealth favor common "manly" (testosterone) traits much less now. eventually we adapt. but we witness the "lag" purplepill debate is in part seeing this lag when it comes to sexual dynamics which are impacted by the adaptation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 11:56 PM
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if she has a nice fat ass and tits, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 01:25 AM
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this gives too much credit to men... women train to be registered nurses while their boyfriends tinker with rebuilding motorcycles and make shit pay, is what i mostly see
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 11:33 PM
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NEET
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 04:39 AM
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wut? isn't "assortative mating" one of those mostly cited data on this issue. looks match just means most people tend to want to be with people that look similar to them i.e. don't expect a short ethnic man with a tall blonde
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 04:37 AM
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Self selecting bias. the Beta timid guy who can't/won't approach woman hardly if ever gets in relationships. the Alpha "chad" type with testosterone running through his muscly veins attracts women. (testosterone makes people more prone to violence)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 04:34 AM
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betas and incels and omegas deep down want marriage more since it offers steady sex and companionship. men with options. like women with options don't care and as per usual slut it up with one another while beta ugly couples get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 04:18 AM
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just saying, it seems the current meme (for past few years really) has been how men are dropping out of labor market, playing video games, earning less than women, entering college less than women etc. so i don't think your perception is in line with general observations... now if the data says otherwise, than ya, you are not in a bubble. i and others are just experiencing bunch of whiny women being loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:38 AM
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It’s interesting to me that you would assume women sense a decline in good men. I actually think there are more good men out there now than ever before. this is contrary to most anecdotes and pretty much the zeitgeist... (i.e. stop playing video games and get a job http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-video-games-jobs-emploment-20160923-story.html ) not calling you a liar, but unless you are the vanguard experiencing this cultural shift, i think you are in a bubble
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:24 AM
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it's same thing for men... being born tall with natural wide shoulders makes them attractive in a "natural trait" kind of way you describe. the issue is you (and most people) tend to over rate women. take a good hard look at the women you encounter daily. they take care of themselves because they have to otherwise they'd be patently ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:20 AM
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This is true. I wanted to be loved as a manlet nerd maybe because i was funny or nice. I AM HUMAN
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 01:15 AM
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mydiary
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 05:02 AM
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it's more like every woman that passes my line of sight gets checked out instantly in a conscious or even subconscious way... not saying i am horny all the time, more like any woman can get me horny at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 02:02 AM
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Many western guys go to traditional cultures and get a wife from there. is it because of the expectations of western women? would you get a traditional woman through arranged marriage? define many? tbqh, it seems it's only a few slightly off, weird types that do this. basically those that flunk out of dating. hat tip to them though instead of becoming incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 12:57 AM
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i don't know. but ime, most of these red pills ideas revolve around working class people. being an effeminate aesthete tends to work if you are independently wealthy, otherwise, it's a bust. it's also something i notice myself (what with being poor). men do labor jobs and are skinny, the women are fat and ugly as they stand around walmart help desk or as receptionist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 12:23 AM
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women like tall men. nothing surprising a 5'7 guy would be a turn off, despite his gains
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 12:12 AM
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fuck. it's all about genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 12:07 AM
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sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 12:05 AM
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women tend to work less labor intense jobs that makes their day offs not that much different than their days at work. A guy working laying bricks or driving heavy machinery fast paced environ vs. a receptionist or medical billing, which do you think would want to kick of their shoes and just relax.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 12:02 AM
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ya, it's called Testosterone. look up a trans person who took some Testosterone hormones and had a "wow wtf" realization. you are either kidding your self or are low T or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 11:59 PM
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and i imagine a good portion of women think it's fun to put on makeup in some sort of "it takes skill and talent" kind of way
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 04:14 AM
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These Zero sum theories/ideas usually are over exaggerated at best or wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 12:02 AM
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As a man, would you want to live in a world that women controlled? ya, actually. men are prone to violent and anger due to Testosterone
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 11:57 PM
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I rate mostly on body. so i care less about this issue than other guys it seems. nice hip to waist ratio and nice ass is what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 11:47 PM
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don't forget ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:26 AM
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So long as we keep the potentially violent incels in check, not much will be different. chads chad it up, sluts slut it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 01:04 AM
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reddit r/trp claims to be that "red pill" is basically observing and commenting on "taboo" topics in society, like why men like younger 19 year old tits and ass. no red pill topic is "hidden" it is merely not talked about out of mores of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 02:50 AM
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man sluts with sluts uggos with uggos. nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 12:20 AM
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I am suprised TRP has even lasted this long... younger kids are way more apathetic/nihilistic, i expect black pill ideas to be more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 03:59 AM
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Are women better looking than men? two equally looks matched man and woman will be same... the issue is most people tend to over rate women. it seems just being a slim non-deformed woman is automatic "7/10", where we fail to account for facial structure, body type.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 06:07 PM
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I don't know if the average man is better looking than the average woman. wut?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 04:53 PM
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let us hope
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 04:43 PM
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that's a gradual organic way of reaching invisibility in the smp. one assumes that by then , you have accumulated enough good experiences to make your life "worth it" incels 30 years from now will be committing widespread suicide i reckon.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 03:00 AM
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thicc isn't fat. ffs, let's stop confusing thick with fat already.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 02:31 AM
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I notice they are "better" than most men nowadays. Better jobs, Better ambitions, Better social skills, Better looks, Really, I sort of get why lots of women complain they can't find a decent guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 01:19 AM
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ya i notice this too. it makes sense if you think about it. the uggos realize (consciously or otherwise) that they really can't be "choosers" so they marry or ltr at first reasonable chance. the average and above average people suffer from "there is probably someone slightly better out there so i'll just keep waiting/looking"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 08:38 PM
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funny how people always seem to post only faces of women for these "rate them" type posts. am i the only guy that places body>face? methinks this is a "white people thing",....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 04:01 AM
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they imagine those as their back ups, but if you would ask their 'back ups' they'd be surprised as hell
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 01:03 AM
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basically yes, this is why there are so many singles out there. we place to much standards on ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 11:59 PM
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it sounds as if you are ready for the Black pill. godspeed my friend
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 02:02 AM
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MOST men, and at least half of the incels, could bring themselves up to a "7" this is patently false. 7+ is a matter of genetics
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 02:02 AM
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imagine how 25+ incels feel if you feel this way at 22 just lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 01:11 AM
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i wish most fatties looked like katie cummings... most fatties are blobs with no noticeable hips tits or ass
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 04:50 AM
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maybe you are ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 03:11 AM
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black pill is for those who want Truth, even it if costs them pain and suffering, but we know Truth is only thing that matters
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 03:10 AM
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these fake glamour shouts are hard to gauge. i want to see their entire body. btw i think porn star Katie cummings is most attractive (if she were on list) i like them thick and curvy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 12:45 AM
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it's funny "locker room talk" taken up a notch. save for the few legit claims of violence, it's mostly harmless lonely men venting .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 11:33 PM
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agree, but i'd say most people are "purple pill"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 05:49 PM
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generic white guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:19 AM
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hair goes on top mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:18 AM
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it's confusing for men. we see schlubby fat dishelved men with decent wives/gfs almost every where, but we make mistake of assuming that is how he "courted" her. they probably let themselves go once deep into the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:18 AM
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looks like you are most likely next ER
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:17 AM
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no beard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:16 AM
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why are you covering your chin? are you a birdlet?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:15 AM
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https://i.imgur.com/WioW9NU.jpg im actually a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:13 AM
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nah. people already pair up with similar people. just walk around Los angeles. you'll see 5'2 brown indiginouse looking hispanic immigrants with ther 4'11 wife, then you see a 5'11 white guy with his 5'6 white blonde wife. in short, people self segregate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 01:52 AM
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beta incel men can't get into relationships or be in one where they are dominant enough to be abusive. self selecting bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 01:49 AM
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sex bots and porn will turn them into compliant drones
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 01:44 AM
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i am assuming that you mean you are tall? ya, it's sort of a given that if a woman is tall (i am short 5'5) i assume 90% of the time I am automatically mentally "rejected" so I don't even bother to pursue anything. it's funny how on reddit i notice this strange idea that somehow it's tall women who give short guys a chance more than "mean short women" but in real life this is never my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 06:00 PM
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i don't this is true. short women reject short men all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 04:30 AM
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ethniccels would rate her as a "goddess" just by being white and non-fat. whitecels would probably find her less attractive and even call her "autistic" or some such.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 03:19 AM
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They want to be better looking vs. other women, not just on how many ugly beta men ogle at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 06:00 AM
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yes, but they don't concern themselves with topics about what Chad is or why "nice guys" are bad and "80 /20 rule" and such. in fact, I think even on here, most blue pillers admit in believing in ideas such as "SMV" and that putting "pussy on pedestal" is pathetic and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 05:59 AM
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I don't think they exist outside of the keyboard on internet is my point. they just like to be contrarians or "tone police" things they find offensive on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 05:45 AM
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Most everyone over age 21 who is well adjusted is "purple pill" I don't think true blue pillers exists outside of internet debate and mock forums/subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 05:32 AM
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maybe in prehistoric times...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 11:58 PM
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I'd give him more money even a nice car. when i was younger I wish I had a nice car and more pocket money to do things .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 12:38 AM
1

bruh why you copy paste me?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 12:35 AM
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yup. I've said it before: as a short man (under 5'6) it's actually better to be fatter than real skinny. It's not about being short it's about being small; women despise men who are smaller than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 11:36 PM
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that's refreshing to hear, given how it seems every one over rates people as base 7s it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 02:30 AM
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he's 5'2 and asian. that's his problem. any other talk is just fluff.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 02:34 AM
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he's 5'2 and asian that's his problem. any other talk is just fluff.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 02:27 AM
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ugly. for men it's being short and ugly for women being fat and ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 02:26 AM
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If by feminine men you mean mean who have nice cheekbones and facial bone structure... of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 01:13 AM
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women have been earning more, even making more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 11:58 PM
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"my 6'1 attractive successful brother has no problem dating why do you?"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 05:59 AM
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thems the breaks
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 10:25 PM
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Ya, bascially, the key difference is TESTOSTERONE. Men's brains are practically bathed in it compared to women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 05:17 AM
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black pill male male: attractive, has social standing, intelligent attractive. not cunty/bitchy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 03:52 AM
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classic blue pill "everyone is special sknow flake" thinking. we make generalities to make general points all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 03:42 AM
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the kind of people who would still get married would still follow it's attached traditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 06:02 AM
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red pill/black pill truth everyone settles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 11:55 PM
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it's pretty much only way most men can get steady sex. I've always said it. most men outside of marriage/ltrs are not having steady casual sex despite the meme of "hook up" culture. (which I think has been debunked)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 04:20 AM
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incel funny fiction... why is this even a post (besides being a shit post)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 09:54 PM
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nah, Everyone's got a hungry heart. The amount of people who regret not having good relationship and kids and family is sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 07:52 PM
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I don't think your sexual desires are inexplicably tied up with how you live your life or the rest of your values/life goals. seems naive tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:57 AM
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That's certainly one aspect of it see this: https://np.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/6rsz3g/google_employees_antidiversity_manifesto_goes/dl7ybjy/?context=1000
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 01:48 AM
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ya, basically. the Overton window doesn't allow such discussions though, that is why this place is actually quite intellectually ahead of it's time (yes, a reddit sub )
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 01:46 AM
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to each his i own.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 01:45 AM
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implying flat ass flat chested white girls are better? lel
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 01:09 AM
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tits are nice, but nice phatt ass is better. i think as places become more diverse (less white), we place less empahsis on tits and more on ass and thighs and thiccness
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 12:46 AM
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makes sense and is a red pill truth (not /trp) thirsty ugly guys want to have varied casual sex, so i would assume they could cheat more if they could, but it's not really a problem since they are ugly. but if opportunities arises
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 01:48 AM
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basically ya, it's a self selecting bias. men who would otherwise not be able to attract women... don't attract women. men who attract women tend to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 01:12 AM
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I'd take that pill tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 11:30 PM
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no, i simply mean it in the "non-white" sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 12:08 AM
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that too. i need jaw surgery (i have Orthognathic issues) that would cost lots of $$$ (am also poorcel) and isn't typically covered through any insurance here in USA. also am short for a male (5'5) and am ethnic. so, things are stacked against me. realistically i probably will never ltr a conventionally attractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 01:24 AM
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incel 0 ya incel i think i could try lowering my standards and find fat misshapen ugly girl for ltr
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 11:48 PM
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how tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 10:20 PM
1

As a black piller, I want to shift the overton window towards genetics and the destiny of gentics, as I say with the black pill motto: You win or lose at conception. There is a trend toward this topic, though it seems somewhat taboo since we tend to want to emphasize social upbringing and environment for obvious reasons (lest we become complacent to the point of not functioning in society). https://youtu.be/iOHdZKDldIg?t=1514 "weeelll.. no" i like topics like in the video.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 10:17 PM
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probably not, but i don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 02:38 AM
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equal. but women are basically shamed into saying they don't care as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 02:28 AM
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legit. you are great at articulating red pill ideas (note this does not necessarily mean /theredpill)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 02:25 AM
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probably ya, let's face it, men are violent and create most wars and massive death and such. even petty shit like some guy getting shot outside of a bar probably has to do with some ego bullshit and or a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 02:23 AM
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as incel i am inclined to say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 01:57 AM
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I wonder if this sentiment of men today to be sexualized is new... seems like it. men of yester year did things and got rewarded for it. now it seems men want to be "chad" good looking (see incel subs) or else don't feel liek they stand a chance to be validated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 01:53 AM
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everyone keeps saying how nerd comp culture is being taken over by bro culture what with it being a good paying decent job out of school compared to the suspect business degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 05:52 AM
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if she was attractive: grateful just to not be alone and with attactive woman. if ugly: sad
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 03:53 AM
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I think i am at that point almost. i am not sure I could even get it up at this point of a real woman sat on my dick... ah well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 03:13 AM
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i'd think they are like me (rightly or erroneously) and so they probably have underlying mental health issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 03:12 AM
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a guy a work showed me text a girl sent him saying literally " i want to blow you" women show interest when they are interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 03:04 AM
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i'd imagine so.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 01:54 AM
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sex is a need for a healthy life, in that if we define sex as deep emotional and intimate connection with another person involving sexual pleasures. sure, you can be incel and live.... but ah, let's just say that isn't the thing to aspire for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 01:08 AM
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EVEN IF SOMEONE DOES BUY THE PEN FOR 10 DOLLARS, IT DOES NOT MEAN IT'S WORTH 10 DOLLARS. er, that's actually not true. simple laws of economics and behavior, the fact that it sold for 10 dollars means it was worth 10 dollars (or else it wouldn't sell)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 10:55 PM
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black pill cant take it unless i click red pill.. which I really don't
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 01:45 AM
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this seems a bit naive. just look up divorce rates. there's your answer. at one point one assumes those couples felt the same as you...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 11:51 PM
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bruh i am 30 5'5 incel you just keep living a meek quiet life... like most of us. it's ok. acceptance comes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 02:17 AM
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he's 5'5. odds are stacked against him tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 01:29 AM
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30 incel
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 01:28 AM
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Just read through this thread. even the women on here realize compliments from men mean nothing... so just don't do it unless you are a bonafide Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 03:17 AM
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seeing the blue pillers squirm and twist like pretzels trying to defend things which are mostly untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 01:53 AM
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i think the equivalent for men is being short. short men and fat women have difficult time dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 05:39 PM
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I have to think menstruation sort of evens things out in the long run
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 10:40 PM
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Harems would be a real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 10:26 PM
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porn and video games is taking care of it for now I think things will run their course like they have done before: major wars = men dying in droves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 08:19 PM
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I think this sexless apathetic phenomena is affecting both genders. I know many women who seemed to have "dropped out" of dating and looking for a husband, probably for their own reasons, probably similar to the "there are no good men left" or whatever. i always say it on here, I don't see ANY of the hook up casual sex culture --which I think was a massively over hyped media meme. very few sluts are slutting it up with very few male sluts it seems. everyone else is just in LTR and gets married t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 05:23 PM
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attraction: i want to stick my penis in this person/ i want this person to stick their penis in me friendship: i like talking to this person and enjoy their company but if the person who i want to stick their penis in me calls me i will go to them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 04:28 AM
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the BPers arguing on here. it seems most just gave up and left. this place is too dark shade of purple now...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:25 PM
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Nah, they are equally rare. the issue is you, like most everyone, massively overrates women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 09:57 PM
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Overton window is that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 01:11 AM
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nothing to add other than this is what makes this sub great. I don't know of any where else where these discussions take place without fear of reprimand or PC policing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 12:10 AM
1

when i had a lowly job at retail warehouse this was situation: women were mostly cashiers and credit card pushers and customer service and hr men worked at receiving with forklift machines, at front with forklift loading customers. the women couldn't carry another over 5 lbs it seemed. when someone needed help with question 90% of the women didn't know answer and just asked one of the men. even from a lowly perspective certain things like this jumped out at me. ...men just get shit done.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 05:48 AM
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Is it even supposed to work as flirting?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 09:54 PM
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It stems from the observation that most women can put on a miniskirt and attract all sorts of male attention, so deep down insecurity of men realize this and perhaps leads to a fear. it doesn't help that even men realize they would go for any woman in a short skirt who let them on, so they think if i would do it, so would some other dude i suppose it's a form of solipsism and fear
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 03:32 AM
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do people really refute this? I mean, it's biological fact given that men have testicles that produce testosterone. honestly, any person who claims otherwise is just being contrarian and most likely not even worth arguing with in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 12:05 AM
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class A drugs can you help me find good legit fishscale? pm me if you'd like
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 05:41 AM
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i don't really have a type. just be feminine... hard to explain. even fat women with obvious hip to waist ratio do it for me. (fat lard of balls dont)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 10:39 PM
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fair enough. though when a fat ass female nurse is making more than a roofer or carpenter and less labor...makes one wonder what this trade advice is really about. men can easily just take up pink collar jobs and get decent pay for the work. unless of course we are assuming these pink collar jobs are also not available to men for whatever reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 04:55 AM
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hmm chance of 50 bucks and to get doxxed as a misogonist? i dunno
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 03:43 AM
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everyone that says this just needs to visit a large city with lots of immigration. here in los angeles, there are tons of latino immigrants who work in the trades (grey market and such licensing) and as such laws of supply and demand are at work... point is, this notion that the trades are a secrete gold mine for men is mostly BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 08:59 PM
1

didn't the Japs kick their ass, ? if I recall, especially in hand to hand combat, and this is where russians stole Japanese ideas for martial arts and renamed them now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 08:56 PM
3

escapism with video games and porn at the least (happening now) violence and civil unrest and war (may happen )
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 08:54 PM
1

pretty much confirms what many studies show. most people hang out and socialize and date/marry their same looking /type of people. I rarely see couples that are not Looks matched.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 09:49 PM
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i mostly don't. i think i only get blue pill and nice guys links through here. what fascinates me is the in good faith discussions here of sex and society. I don't think i find any good discussions of this without the PC police crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 09:47 PM
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legit as fuck. am 5'5
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 03:36 AM
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am incel, this is sort of true. I grew up poor, didn't have much socilization and felt shame throught out formative years. i am somewhat "shy". most incels i think are not good at or scared of social interaction. AMA if you'd like for your research
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 03:02 AM
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incels are mostly black pills, so i guess you are somewhat right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 03:00 AM
3

just better than being alone is probably the real answer, but no one is willing to openly admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 10:59 PM
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yes, it's called having testicles and producing testosterone. this isn't even debatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 03:33 AM
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women lie to keep up appearances of being kind and not shallow. it's kind of sad really.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 03:27 AM
1

You don't need it to live. but you do need it to live a healthy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 10:37 PM
1

It's not that hard to get a man to understand the heinous act of rape. you may have to use slightly homophobic example but it usually works: imagine if a gay man raped you anally? would you care? would you still care even if you were unconscious and didn't feel anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 11:23 PM
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Even the Chadiest of Chads can't simply have sex on a whim. I feel like I am crazy pills, but I never have witnessed hookup culture or confirmed it with anyone I know. people to to bars/clubs to "hang out with my friends" and never leave and have sex. Women say "they just want to dance with their friends" i am not even sure people actually have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 04:46 PM
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BPers don't understand the concept of making generalities to make general points. in their view everyone is speical unique person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 02:38 AM
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too short/ugly to ever marry; too poor to ever care about a prenup. thanks anyway i guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 02:43 AM
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I doubt you actually are willing to ignore social problems, and this is one. as for the "solution" ya well, welcome to the club, no one really has one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 04:07 AM
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I think the way one reacts to not feeling wanted is gendered. men are more prone to anger and violence (incels and elliot rodgers)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 09:40 PM
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fair enough. though one wonders where this neurotic deisre to be lusted for / wanted comes from male incels when I really don't think i have heard of this before. i think it does have something to do with changing gender roles tbh. I don't like throwing around the phrase "feminization of men" but it does feel like that sometimes with incels, except when combined with other attributes, it turns into this weird incel particular thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 08:08 PM
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I like it when men look at me. It feels empowering. Frankly, it makes me feel like I’m not being excluded. This is why I think incels are more feminine than they let on. they have a desire to be looked at and wanted just like women. while most ugly men who are never looked at don't give a shit and just smoke drink and get prostitutes and drive a truck.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 07:50 PM
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I thought all the female co-workers at job i had were cold, not intersted in men or all dating/married since they never were especially friendly to me or other coworkers friendly flirting. then I found out (classic rumors and mobile phone videos) a Chad at work had fucked at least two. fuck mang, i hate it when shit like this stops being internet memes and becomes reality. thankfully by then I was already black pill so i didn't really care that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 07:41 PM
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that's sort of the basis for "red pill vs. blue pill" idea. choose blue pill delusion for the comfort of the fake steak or choose red pill reality and at least from then you make of it what you will. what you are describing though is black pill. black pill is basically trying to shift Overton window towards genetics and less about "maintaining frame" .
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 07:35 PM
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lul another "let me show my tits to get views" youtube video. .
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 04:15 AM
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i think i am noticing ugly people (and just average, which is new ugly) just prefer to be perpetually single than to be with other ugly person. I notice this with both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 05:27 AM

Bone law: women see bones. (i.e. height, facial bone structure,shoulder width, v tapers_ Meat law: men see meat. (i.e., ass, tits, thighs, legs)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 05:26 AM
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that is so strange to understand as a man. similar experiences happen to us men, but we go on to locker room talk about how and waht we would to her sexually...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 02:24 AM
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I'll just comment what i usually do with this somewhat tiresome topic: It all comes down to testosterone. women will never know what it means to have a brain bathed in testosterone. they simply cannot experience the same kind of lust men do towards a nice pair of tits and ass. we must just accept this as fact and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 11:45 PM
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It all comes down to testosterone. women will never know what it means to have a brain bathed in testosterone. they simply cannot experience the same kind of lust men do towards a nice pair of tits and ass. we must just accept this as fact and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 10:35 PM
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being witty usually signals good intelligence and social skills. it's a good heuristic for "this guy isn't autistic"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 10:31 PM
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you need to turn your height and blackness into a strength, you basically need to become a Tyrone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 02:20 AM
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he is ugly and or short. simple as that. looks is life
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 02:12 AM
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average is the new ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 02:06 AM
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i am 5'5 male so ya, automatic ugly to opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 12:10 AM
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I'll just copy paste a good comment on this sub i cam across: In the past, women were made aware of the threat of being alone with a man before, but the manner and fashion of how he'd want to hurt her was vague. He could hurt her, was what was known. He might be one of those people who likes to hurt others. Now there is no stigma for being with strange men alone. However, the manner and fashion in which men like to hurt women is easily accessed. This is so universally indulged there is no way of…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 10:42 PM
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ah yes, the classic "rape isn't about sex" mental gymnastics stance. ok. i really can't be bothered to answer this without being glib. it's like saying robbing a bank isn't about money... sure ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 10:38 PM
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i suppose this is correct, but it is a bit superficial. we can then assume we are meant to analyze why the selfish asshole is oblivious to his behavior, same for OPs question i suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 08:54 PM
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benevolent racism. a white man does this, he is blackballed to hell. a black man does this, we cut him a break lest we be cruel to an ethnic minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 10:11 PM
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i know, they should just go out and get a gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 04:23 AM
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seems "red pill" but probably not r/trp
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 05:52 AM
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this is probably true (and a red pill / black pill answer) average is the new ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 08:12 PM
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It is largely women coping with, and trying to rationalize, the truth about male sexuality, which they can't unlearn. explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 09:44 PM
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christ, that trollx thread... women of reddit cannot be representative of most women in real life.... i hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 03:01 AM
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that's why we say good looking and not autistic is all that is needed. I see plenty of good looking but dumb ass rocks dull i like "vrrrooom fast cars" guys do more than fine with women. autism is deal breaker though, understandably so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 02:55 AM
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this is probably true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 11:56 PM
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it's weird that every blue piller knows above average chad-like men...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 09:23 PM
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(2) you're far below average. is the correct answer. most men over rate themselves but are actually much uglier than they think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 01:34 AM

Ya, i think this is a man thing only women will never "get" this has happened to me, where a bombshell woman just makes me go something like "aaahhgaggahhhaugggh" inside my mind and the residual effect stays with me for a bit throughout the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 01:32 AM
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My kingdom for a way to find real stats that are not self reported on how often people have sex. i just don't see any man outside of LTRs having regular sex... that is a hollywood media lie that spawned the manosphere (out of anger mostly) and i find it strange and funny that blue pillers really believe this media myth of any jow bloke average being able to have easy causal sex with impunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 01:27 AM
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globalized world and dating apps/sites we are all constantly waiting for the better person to come around next click or swipe and end up with nothing. and in modern wealthy nations, women are choosing mates based on looks rather than just ability to provide, so average is the new ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 05:18 AM
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that's because most "blue pills" on here hate r/trp enough to avoid the label "purple pill" which they are in real life, like the majority of well adjusted people over age 21 are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 04:37 AM
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even Chads have a tough go at getting "laid easily". the idea that some 4/10 short ethnic ugo can "get laid easily" is delusional. that's one reason i wish could be blue pill again. I can't go out on weekends without feeling pangs of pity and hurt for all the non-chad guys(including me) who go out and are clearly sexually invisible to most women. I wish the USA had a much more libertine nightlife style for men where we could hang out together and go to brothels legally and have a good time inste…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 04:21 AM
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sounds right. especially about the "won't make them feel embarrased in public" generally, this is why women don't like short men and why men don't like fatties.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 07:50 PM
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they are good looking and tall.. that is mostly all they have in common. some players are upper middle class deboainaire type, others are the ghetto swag thug types who, others are the soft spoken kind and sweet, but they are all good looking and attractive. that's basically it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 10:45 PM
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welfare state is different that "welfare aid" ie food stamps and govement check. most modern wealthy nations have a healthy welfare state, especially Scandinavian northern European countries. you and many on here are missing the topic by messing up the definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 10:19 PM
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legit red pill post (not r/trp red pill )
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 10:09 PM
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legit post. i suppose i can get OPs frustration though, since it seems everyone loves to be a contrarian on the internet, especially on a debate orientated place, so there is the tinge of "nah men and women are just the same, even when it comes to dating and getting sex1"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 04:56 AM

most women on here know that men have it more difficult.. they just don't care. just like i don't care about pms problems since i am a man. why the fuck should women even care about male dating problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 04:28 AM

lol talk about over ratting oneself. that is a 6'3 male super model... sure you look "somewhat like him"... sure
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 04:26 AM
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lol no. i am even wiling to put my money where my mouth is. if somehow we could coordiniate a real in good faith way to experiment this and if your claim is true i will send you 100 usd bucks if you win
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:42 AM
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un woke? blissfully unaware? i actually wish i could go back to being blue pill.. but it's impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:09 AM
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it's true. Testosterone and men are perhaps the most dangerous combination out there. also, it's clear to any red pilled/woke person that most of the problems that come from Muslim middle eastern nations are from repressed male sex drives. I think i have only heard one popular voice say this, Bill Maher. but fortunately, most men are under porn and video game opiates. so not much of an issue in relatively modern and wealthy nations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 01:51 AM
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there's nothing wrong with hypergamy. it's better to just say "ya so what?" it's in women's nature, just like men are more violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 03:43 AM
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yes, there are some really smart, insightful comments occasionally made on here or linked to even most of the BP on here are reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 03:36 AM
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oh you mean most reddit men are not attractive enough to get casual sex like nothing? I am shocked, shocked i tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 05:55 PM
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hollywood fantasy. women stay away from genetically unfit men, i mean real unfit like retarded Forrest Gump style, all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 12:16 AM
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so not really ugly.. just wallowing with some marginal self hate and self pity. k
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 02:30 AM
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ugly (tall) man any day of the week
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 02:29 AM
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where are these mythical paper pusher government jobs that offer special lady bucks walk into any government services building? any metro public transport agency? any public school?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 01:16 AM
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there is no equal analogy for men.. tits are meh to me, nice legs and asss will do it for men tho
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:00 AM
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height is an attribute of beauty for our current epoch and society, if you lack height, you lack an attribute of beauty, so this places one at a disadvantage. not that complicated... unless you are asking "why is height an attribute of beauty" well, that gets more complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 11:59 PM
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woman's slow rise to orgasm and her staying power in a highly aroused state my guess is rape. women were raped caveman style for good portion of history, so they needed this evolutionary trait for their health.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 11:57 PM
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Now an average guy (maybe not reddit average) can get a girlfriend of similar smv and have sex on the regular without having to make a serious commitment. i never see this... then again i am incel who probably isn't good example, but i am very observant. most guys getting regular sex are in ltrs, those who wish to have sex want ltr for that reason...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 12:21 AM
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man childs exist because women let them exist. the amount of man childs with gf/wives and kids astounds me. even in that linked article... THEN WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU in a relationship with said man child to begin with. reminds of scenario where female friend ask me once: "Why do i mostly see short guys at the gym?" to which I answered: because women make it so tall men don't have to go to the gym. she was slightly confused then understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 09:52 PM
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looks is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 08:08 PM
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i doubt. that reads like some fantasy. most women are smart enough to know most men will not want to raise a kid who isn't theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 08:07 PM
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optimal mating strategy perhaps doesn't have a go to play book, but i suspect most women would rather not have offspring with thier one night stand or fling relationships. that is why birth control and abortions are great. i think most people are in favor of giving best outcome for your offspring. the word eugenics is tainted so we don't resort to using it, but the medical practice we have today for prenatal care and screenings are already a form of eugenics lite.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 06:19 PM
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feminism is eugenics lite. sleep around with bad boys and use the pill and abort the lesser offspring; it's fine and empowering ladies when it's time to settle for the smart well to do provider have his babies this is good for humanity, ultimately why i am not against eugenics. i am against hypocrisy and willful ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 04:57 AM
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nah, they just are invisible to women. hate takes a lot of energy and is usually devoted to people worth your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 03:04 AM
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probably. it's like today any parent who is willing and able to afford orthodontics for their kids gives them orthodontics... why ? it gives them a competetive advantage in all realms of life. we are all closet eugenicists.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 03:03 AM
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any well adjusted person over age 21 is "red pill" aware. blue pillers are just a sub category of internet SJWs who are contrarian to everything that offends them and their pc views. i am all for nuanced debates on "purple pill" ideas, but there is no real " blue pill"; even rational blue pill women admit red pill ideas are true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 07:30 PM
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because we can't choose who objectifies before, so we shame it to prevent ugly people from objectifying you and making you feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 11:22 PM
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men don't like cunty bossy chip on her shoulders women. this isn't something new and i hope women realize this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 10:42 PM
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i hold the view that since we cannot reverse the effects with our current methods and since we won't be allowed to step on emerging nations (in Africa, India, etc) which are the main culprits in contributing to climate change in the future., we must push forward with technology and hope we reach point where dirty fuels become obsolete due to innovation and market forces. let it be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 12:15 AM
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no
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 12:04 AM
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realized that most people are not model-attractive that is my point though. most people are under 6 in ratings scale. but everyone claims with a haircut and some decent jeans you can become model tier attractive, when it's not true. you need to win genetic lottery to hit 7+
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 07:23 PM
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feels like i am on crazy pills if that guy is average... JUST
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 07:12 PM
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short and weighs less than the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 04:55 AM
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the cliche of college aged men resides with them wanting to be players and have as much sex as possible. this may be a wish, but an unrealistic one. most college men want regular sex and see ltrs as the best way. just saying there is a big myth about men having all sorts of no strings attached casual sex that just isn't real for good majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 04:38 AM
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delete this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 04:28 AM
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i've always said this. women have easy access to sex; men don't most men who are getting sex on the regular are doing so because they are in ltrs. this is what men want. the idea of being of a top 1% man who can have easy casual sex is absurd for most men. their best chance at having steady healthy sex is with ltr. 1 in 5 men are incel easily too because of same idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 04:24 AM
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The original guys is above average jesus fucking christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 04:22 AM
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I'm pretty confident it can be studied. but even the most blue pill person would admit that the social sciences wouldn't touch such "red pill" topics with a 10 foot pole.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 09:23 PM
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why would they? men cannot understand what it fundamentally means to be a woman; women cannot fundamentally understand what it means to be a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 12:43 AM
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One in ten lol no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 03:30 AM
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very rare. for one, in normal distribution, mathematically it is rare. then when you take into account some wiggle room for personal prefrence, a 10 to someone might be a 9 to another. or someones 8 can be a 10 to another.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 03:29 AM
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none. 9 and 10s are rare. the few i see would not associate with a 5'5 poor ethnic manlet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 11:33 PM
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a natural alpha yes. not a borderline aspie that learned things on the webs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 12:11 AM
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kentucky
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 06:27 PM
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welcome to the club.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 10:00 PM
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Outside of being physically attractive to me Outside of being physically attractive to me Outside of being physically attractive to me Outside of being physically attractive to me Outside of being physically attractive to me Outside of being physically attractive to me lol come on, we are adults (presumably) on internet, let's not bullshit past one another. everything you number is irrelevant if you are not good looking, so, basiclaly, be good looking is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 09:59 PM
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i feel like i am on crazy pills.. how the fuck is simply "not being fat" make one a 6? so genuine good looking people are what ? 11s? based on the 1-10 scale there is no way most anyone can be a 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 09:55 PM
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barring some major physical deformity or mental disability can be at least SMV 6-7. no. this is what is partially wrong with current rating smv culture, we tend to massively over rate people. 6-7's are genetically gifted to a certain extent that a 3-4 can never achieve though your optimism is noble.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 03:07 AM
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that's really it though. sucks but it's true. I hate it myself as incel man, how any pair of tits and nice ass can send me into mix of feelings of horniness and despair for not being able to mate with said woman. Testosterone bathes males brains, it's something women will never understand
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 03:04 AM
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good looking not a cunt/bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 02:54 AM
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porn and vidya games. men now jerk off to digital images (virtual rape) and kill digital enemies (virtual war fare) so our baser primal urges are met.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 12:15 AM
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lel what? it's like saying we should teach kids how to love their parents or some shit. here's the thing: outside of reddit and internet realm, almost everyone well adjusted past age 21 is "purple pill" at least. event the reasonable Blue pillers on here admit to red pill ideas (but not TRP teachings and ways). it's actually a sad day when we would have to dedicated public schooling to teaching social instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 12:20 AM
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It is enough. if you are born (i.e "naturally") good looking, don't have affective disorders, and didn't grow up with serious child abuse, you will be fine. TRP is mostly a coping strategy for less than good looking men who don't realize looks matter to women as much as it matters to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 11:59 PM
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not eww ugly, not good looking admirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 07:12 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 10:46 PM
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ya, women simply will never experience this brain that is bathed in testostorone compared to woman's. it's like asking men to imagine carrying a child or experiencing menstruation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 12:02 AM
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you have a small skull then. or lanky look. but at 6 ft you should do fine online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 11:58 PM
1

Before the nomenclature of "incel" became popular. what did incels call themselves? was there that much of a stigma associated with this "incels" pre internet word coinage?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 11:12 PM
1

he looks short tbh. that might be one major issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 11:10 PM
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this. if you are truly attractive, just do what everyone else does and join the online meat market and you'll be fine
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 11:09 PM
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ya most men do this, this seems to creep women out, but there it is. sorry for our brain is bathed in testosterone compared to women's
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 04:28 AM
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nah. it's not that complicated despite how everyone wants to think "chad" isn't an archetype based on reality. It basically boils down to beauty standards for men, and chad has more of these than other, so Chad is (mostly) Tall nice smile nice jawline/bone strucure nice physique (i.e. not fat, not bean pole thin) nice hair socially adept. this is Chad. the problem is we tend to massively over rate people so suddenly "everyone " can be a Chad in blue pill eyes, when, no, not really. Chad won the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 11:44 PM
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I have to consciously remind myself not to give more attractive people better service at work. it is literally wired in us to treat beautiful people better. must be something with health and fertility and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 08:18 PM
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if i can go from 5'5 to something taller i would... but can't fuck off no one but short dudes know this struggle
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 04:20 AM
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5'5" i knew it.. fukcing shit mang. its uphill battle all the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 04:19 AM
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ya, and they (we) exist in real life as well, we just don't show it because most of us are not that idiotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 09:38 PM

i am center/moderate as well the problem is this basically makes you a conservative or worse to many young very leftist people today.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 02:09 AM
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there's nothing wrong with tall women. that is just the image we get from beta angst ridden men on internet and in real life who think they have to be 7 inches taller than their gf/wife. tall women are sexier (vs "cute) tall women will have better chance of giving tall sons tall women, all things being equal, will look more like classic statuesque beauty vs the short squatty looking woman. you can be in a true alpha power couple relationship with tall women. (assuming the man is also at least eq…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 12:28 AM
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makes sense. shorter women means higher possibility short manlet offspring. honestly, tall men shouldn't even consider mating with any woman under 5'7
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 11:32 PM
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bossypants mommy moo cow women lel
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 11:24 PM
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your 1 and 2 are the answers. most blue pillers just like being contrarians.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 11:23 PM
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they find their 9s /10s to marry. most couples are looksmatched, despite what we say on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 11:46 PM
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inevitably the happier women will be the ones who are not attracted to traditional masculinity, because that will become rare and if you really want to date have ltr and marry, you will need to be ok being with an "beta" male type who wouldn't be able to change his own oil or change a flat tire or fix a leaky faucet if his life depended on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 11:45 PM
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LOOKS IS LIFE
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 11:33 PM
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"It's because I'm a 5'5" ethnic manlet with a 3/10 face." would be the one to say. they would at least commend you for your self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 03:42 AM
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http://i.imgur.com/uekkthR.jpg 10/10 note i am 6'3
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 08:33 PM
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a solid 4/10 easily could have been 6/10 if wasnt' short
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 08:30 PM
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eh, reddit zone strikes me as a little too extreme on this topic. me thinks it has to do with the demographic (mostly white guys who idolize tall slim white girls?) out in real life, a little chubby won't hurt an already attractive woman. then again, it might just all come down to personal preferences (not so shocking.) google katie cummings (porn actress nsfw) to me that is the good example of attractive but chubby woman; better looking than any simple looking thin woman with no curves or tits …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 02:56 AM
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ya wow, holy who would've thought having someone love and look out for you can be beneficial to your well being?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 02:49 AM
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The women you should be able to date this is isn't very rational of you. there is no "should" involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 11:59 PM
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yes, one again let's not forget "red pill" manosphere is not r/trp
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 11:44 PM
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being short for men is equivalent of being fat woman in terms of sex appeal. am 5'5 incel. can confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 11:42 PM
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young unmarried males are the most dangerous threat to society. violence and crime results at worse, at least it's petty hooliganism relying on welfare state.. In terms of teh red pill talk, ya, nothing much will come about, just a bunch of older bachelors without kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 10:44 PM
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I don't think there are as many real blue pills as I had thought. most people are "purple pill" in real life, and most blue pills here just object to the tone of red pill ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 05:02 AM
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it's gotten to the point where women would rather have offspring with good genes and no father than offspring with potentially sub optimal genes with (beta) father. really it's a crap shoot either way, so i guess it comes down to preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:53 AM
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the standard trope of fat oaf husband with attractive wife strikes me as severely outdated and unrealistic for today.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 02:16 AM
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good looking wins over anything. LOOKS IS LIFE
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 11:27 PM
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We tend to massively overrate women so we end up with this fallacy of the "hot" woman dating an average man. in reality, average women date average men. ugly women date ugly men, and hawt women date hawt men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 11:25 PM
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no, they just settle. you answered your own question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 01:33 AM
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it may be a social construct, but that still makes it so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 11:50 PM
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for referecne emma watson a reminder to always pay attention to what people do, not what they say. http://i.imgur.com/dsmSeeM.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 11:35 PM
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it's the sort of thing women find themselves in a bind for. they want to date men who can attract women (such as herself) and so they date men who are attractive and so they date men who can cheat on them and so they worry about "all guys being cheaters"; self selecting bias (?) i think the term goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 07:13 PM
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i suppose this is aimed at appeasing the "evidence !?" folks who don't really even want to have a debate. honestly, any well adjusted person over 25 knows red pill ideas. most blue pillers just want to tone police or be contrarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 01:43 AM
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then the why and how becomes more the topic of discussion. sort of the point of OP
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 02:40 AM
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somewhat funny and not bad adaptation of red pill ideas (not r/trp ideas mind you)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 02:08 AM
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low self esteem and / or realistic standards btw, I find most men call shorter good looking women "cute" and taller equally good looking women "hot" or sexy and i find that most taller women mostly prefer taller men, so this weeds out a lot of shorter men, add to this that most men have issues dating taller women so ya, it's basically about having realistic standards and insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 11:31 PM
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ffs, as incel, one week seems odd to even mention. but i suppose i am detached from normalcy to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 03:13 AM
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any man who poses like that or trys hard for pose in pic gives off the "gay vibe" put that dude in some jeans and button up shirt and he'd be upvoted on ladyboners .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 09:12 PM
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any man who poses like that or trys hard for pose in pic gives off the "gay vibe" put that dude in some jeans and button up shirt and he'd be upvoted on ladyboners .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 09:11 PM
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low self esteem or realistic standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 02:52 AM
1

'drain the swamp' candidate
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 01:33 AM
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it made me take the black pill and am forever hateful/grateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 07:14 AM
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over rated movie imo. but ya, it's basically putting the spotlight on gender roles as we know them and fear and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 11:05 AM
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a classic BP shortcoming is their inability to understand that you can use generalities to make general points. BP mentality is fixated on the "everyone is unique" point of view. i am not disagreeing with you so moved to auto mod i guess
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 03:30 AM
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working in medical field or training to work in medical field. making more than their bfs/ husbands / baby daddys
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 08:56 PM
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anyone with a phat ass, small waist and nice tits does it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 01:16 AM
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feminism at its core is "red pill" (not r/trp; there's a differnce) it is essentially a "get yours" mentatlity that promotes womens needs and pleasure. Even if it means disrupting social norms. a more extreme interpretation, and one not to far off i think, is that feminism is self imposed eugenics for our species. It makes sense that women would want to fuck the hawt bad boys and abort the lesser offspring if necessary. but only settle down with the "stable" intelligent guy ("beta bux") to have …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 01:12 AM
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black pill (effectively rp on here) I'd pick runway model a la Barbara Palvin. i'd ideally like to be seen with here enough times so that people know I was with a model . Beauty is life, life is beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 12:21 AM
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ugly is ugly. fat ugly women= average men i.e. they are mostly invisible in the smp unless they put in some work (actively try to seduce or pump up some persona that someone might find interesting)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 12:18 AM
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this seems somewhat outside the scope or of this sub.. you can probably frame it in a more relevant way. something like: how will gender roles be different under post scarcity utopias. or some such.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 02:36 AM

I'm a nerd/nerdy person. not geek, mind you. so it's actually tough outside of certain circles to engage in nerdy or like minded conversations. geeks have it easy it seems , so many geek sub cultures exist outside of academia compared to nerdy things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 01:58 AM
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the average person in Los Angeles probably looks like a mexican/central american or asian immigrant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 04:57 AM
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i dunno, i think most incels have typical standards... if anything most actually aren't lying when they say somehting like "have a pulse"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 04:54 AM
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this. in fact, at a primal level, it's not that hard, since it is quite literally "wired" in us men. nice tits, nice legs and thighs, hips, thin waist and pretty face denotes health and fertility. an average girl with funky looking body can doll up all she wants, but the bombshell in regular jeans and t shirt will look amazing to our eye and primal brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 04:52 AM
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nah. that's sort of the problem. We tend to overrate people too much so we have this severely distorted spectrum of looks rating where the true ugly are not even mentioned and the truly beautiful just get rated "above average"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 04:50 AM
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ya, because she agrees with manosphere views. basic human behavior. what's your point besides "gotcha!"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 12:25 AM
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feminism at its core is "red pill" (not r/trp; there's a differnce) it is essentially a "get yours" mentatlity that promotes womens needs and pleasure. Even if it means disrupting social norms. a more extreme interpretation, and one not to far off i think, is that feminism is self imposed eugenics for our species. It makes sense that women would want to fuck the hawt bad boys and abort the lesser offspring if necessary. but only settle down with the "stable" intelligent guy ("beta bux") to have …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 12:52 AM
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geniune nerdy guys don't do as bad as popular stereotypes claim. the issue is we conflate geeky with nerdy. geeks are more typically the xbox dorrito eating grafic tee can't get laid type. nerds are more the academic trying to master a realm of knowledge type who can somtimes attract equally or more intelligent women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 02:04 AM
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yes but ultimately it's better attitude to take compared to become r/incels or r/foreveralone defeatist mentality
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 09:41 AM
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I think part of this idea you disagree with is that if the average woman (or any women for that matter) would to initiate something explicitly sexual to a man, most men would agree to fuck or escalate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 11:26 PM
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i'd say very. i like them thick and short if they have right curves, or tall and lean if they have that look. really, don't be on ogre and don't be a bitch and i'll more than likely want to fuck you if you are a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 11:18 PM
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can't see legs tits or ass as a whole, so really hard to judge. personally, i prefer good body over a pretty face any day of the week, of course assuming a "minimum threshold' is reached.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 10:45 PM
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Is this really a thing tho? I mostly notice only ugly people and couples. very few are actually 8+ looks. and most fall under average and ugly / below average looks. I don't get your question really? a
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 03:11 AM
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it's classic blue pill. wherein we can't make generalities to make general points at all ever because we are all unique
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 01:28 AM
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so, not like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 01:25 AM
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it's testosterone... and women will never truly understand, just like men will never truly understand PMS
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 01:23 AM
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not fat
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 11:04 PM
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k not bothering with your troll posts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 11:04 PM
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men want a nice hourglass figure, which is rarer than 6ft. wat? a basic don't be fat and have waist to hip ratio is pretty common outside of a fat convention
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 11:01 PM
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It's the number one way women filter out men through datting sites and apps. it's been empirically shown to be true, that women prefer taller men. http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.532.1096&rep=rep1&type=pdf if you are short man, you are at a MASSIVE disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 11:00 PM
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why do women make it so this is so? have you ever asked this? i kind of agree, in terms of dress and appearance women care way more, but then how are these schlubby looking men walking around with decent looking wives and gfs? is it that these sloppy men all can get women regardless of their dress OR most men as I think are just incel
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 04:51 AM
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this is edging closer to black pill ideas than red pill or blue pill. it's why as black pillers we hate r/trp (but are far from blue pill) have been saying: LOOKS IS LIFE erotic capital > economic capital for western wealthy nations. It's the new normal. people can go on dating sites and apps to find someone better (looking) than you in literally minutes. what is more: manly good looking men will be more valuable because being a "stable provider" won't matter, and women now have careers and can …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 04:40 AM
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i find most fat women who still have waist to hip ratio that is noticeble still attractive. it's only when they are total balls or formless bags that they are not sexually attractive. i can't be bothered to google pics, but i think that gives an idea
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 04:31 AM
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1 in 5 men are incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 09:46 PM
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this is so out of touch with the reality of men. most men who are not in a ltr are not having casual sex at the rate most people assume or believe. open your eyes, there are none so blind as who will not see
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 08:30 PM
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T E S T O S T E R O N E women will never understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 08:50 PM

most men are a little misogynist in general so TRP is probably more misogynist than average male, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 10:14 PM
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pretty sure men choose mates based on their wide hips and nice ass, features showing they make good birthers. also, more to your point, it doesn't matter medical science has made it possible for women to have the c section.. so really it's win win. they get their tall man, and have offspring with their tall man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 03:08 AM
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Despite rapidly changing attitudes, marriage/raising children is still as much, if not more an economical project as a romantic one, it requires absurd amounts of invesments of time, money and dedication over literally decades; and in the modern world with the importance of education and other investments in childs future it only became more expensive, at least if done properly. Needless to say, it can be stupidly hard to pull it off solo or with porrly contributing partner. none of that matters…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 11:18 PM
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Legit Agree, that is why I am black pill TRP is a coping strategy for men who for whatever reason never realized looks matter to women as much as it matters to men when it comes to all things sexual. at least in western wealthy nations (USA, Western Europe etc) Women are quickly catching up to men and earning almost the same. That combined with a welfare state (in political sense, not demagogic sense) women no longer depend on successful "go getter" men or rather don't seek them out as much sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 11:12 PM
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yup, just take a look at foreveralone and incel sub and forums, incels are actually really honest and even pathologically good at rating looks and describing themselves and other ugly men as "sub human" if every man was like this... well let's not imagine a situation where everyman thought like r/incels or lookism.net
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 10:56 PM
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Reddit Red Pill phenomena has always been a white middle class thing. Immigrants are red pill as fuck poor people are red pill black people are red pill. Reddit Red Pill is mostly a result of white middle class men growing up with beta dads and feminist virtue signaling white moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 03:27 AM
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it's a noble way of thinking in an effort to avoid the incel spiral of depression but it's absurd. most women don't do casual sex despite the "slut" exaggeration phenomena. Most women are not as horny as men due to simple biological differences. so, no. it's safe to assume most women do not want to fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 09:10 PM
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because deep down we realize primal urges are just that, primal and carnal and we agree that can't be anymore shallow than wanting to drink water instead of piss when you are thirsty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 08:39 PM
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it depends on how well you can deal with rejection and possible be called "creep" or other things. if you are ok with dealing with rejection and some shame, it's better to just not give a fuck and go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 01:57 AM
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Michelle Obama made similar comments on how she is glad she didn't pass up on the lanky nerdy Obama guy... this is a real observable phenomena in the Black american community that deserves more attention.. but then BP censorship kicks in and we all racists!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 09:17 PM
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overall, yes i agree. some topics that arise though are the amount of men who will never marry or will be in some "bet bux" position... hence we have purplepill debate and red pill talk on such things. it's actually quite fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 10:45 PM
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we know, that is sort of the point. i think we are confusing or using two different ideas of hypergamy. in the context of pill talk, hypergamy means more like "dating up" in terms of erotic/social capital not economic capital. so now women don't want or even need a "bread winner" in wealthy western nations, so now more than ever erotic capital is more important i.e. giving "tingles" through your good looks and charming nature
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 08:22 PM
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so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 08:19 PM
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the top physical attributes almost got it right. I just don't buy it that women place sense of style number 1 when I see SO MANY men wearing ill fitting shirts and pants or ugly cargo shorts and graphic tees every fucking where and they usually have a well dressed pretty gf/wife with them. like wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 08:17 PM
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a charming well built man... women love charming men ie someone who can telll a good story, be funny, be witty etc, and combine this with tall good looking, it's go time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:24 AM
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i agree, most people seem to lack... social grace? what has always irked me is that I actually can keep good conversation, even dress well, but I failed in the good looks and height department, so im at least capable of being amicable to people if I try, butbeing desired for sex just seems to difficult for men, like you really need to be perfect package or else it ain't gonna "just happen" like if a woman puts on short skirt and goes for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 05:40 AM

i say guys trying so hard and failiing its comical. bar scenes and club scenes are hilarious. guys try to dance and chat up women and at best get some polite talk and dancing but any attempt of further physical contact always is rebuffed, most of time women always just say "they want to just dance with their friends" (while wearing skimpy clothing that they know ill attract opposite sex?) men try, it's just something I have come to terms with. We as species have it this way where women don't/can…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 05:23 AM
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today, in wealthy western nations, erotic capital is more important than economic capital, assuming you have your basic needs met with basic employment. women don't need/ want a man to provide for them anymore, they want a man they can show off as a "hunk" or a "catch"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 07:49 AM
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ya, even as hetero male, guys who can spin a good yarn earn my respect. i imagine as a woman, they get tingles
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 04:34 AM

but i just don't even know of any, and don't know of any guys who actually "play the field" it seems they go out and waste money on a bar then get home and play xbox... who is having all this sex??
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 02:28 AM

it need not involve social engineering. violent unrest will result as it always has to cull off surplus of men. war is as much a human thing as is sex for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 12:07 AM
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i am not a teetotaller. problem is i am passive though, turns out being passive nerdy type doesn't work when you are 5'5
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 11:45 PM

i have never tried online or appss for dating because I am short and not very good looking, perhaps I am basically excluding myself from sex and trying to find it in the wrong places
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 11:16 PM
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I suppose if I am driving at a point is that I am drawing this conclusion as I briefly said in OP, this slut thing is all one big fantasy exaggerated by pop culture bullshit. most men I know are incel, most women I know are how I describe in my OP. in fact, it seems we are living in an increasingly sex deprived society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 10:57 PM
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i doubt, more likely I am speaking openly and lots of guys are like me but hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 10:52 PM

this doesn't jive though. I must massively ugly and repulsive or else EVENTUALLY in my 30 years of life some slut would have come along. I don't encounter any ever, again, is this slut phenomena some out of state college mid west east coast white girl phenomena? despite the stereotypes of southern california, it's mostly fairly conservative latina and asian women who don't seem that slutty to me... i think we are exaggerating this slut phenomena. most guys I know are incel or just about (sex eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 10:49 PM
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ya, I am drawing this conclusion as I briefly said in OP, this slut thing is all one big fantasy exaggerated by pop culture bullshit. most men I know are incel, most women I know are how I describe in my OP. I don't believe it anymore, I have been lied to and so have so many incels. not even lying or being funny right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 10:43 PM

i've always been the nerdy type, (not geek mind you, I dont give fuck about star wars and such stuff), so I always felt my best oppurtinites came in college when I could actually talk nerdy things with other nerdy girls, but now in real world... I think i have to start doing more things i like by myself, but I remeber doing that for a while after college like 3 years ago, going to jazz performances and art openings and museums and such by myself... but it got a bit tiresome being alone all the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 10:38 PM
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most of people I know grew up with caring parents who wouldn't let there children dress slutty or go out and drink, interesting thing i am noticing, is that we are from immigrant parents who were fairly conservative, those old school latino types that you may or may not know about, liek they loved Reagan type
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 10:32 PM
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make sense, can ask you, is it possible for someone like me to try to hang out with "slutty people"? i love my few friends i have, but I am starting to think i need some assistance from a circle of more sluttier friends...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 10:25 PM
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eh, there isn't an archetype of dress i would think. my guess they are actually trying to dress better if they are actually following the ideas of self improvement, so I would even venture to say probably better than the average blue pill guy with ill fitting shirts and ill fitting pants that have pools of extra material at their cheap ugly shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 10:24 PM

ya, this seems likely right explanation, but in general where are all these sluts? mind you , I am black pill, not necesserialy trying to make some blue pill hidden argument, it's just amazing how walled off I have been from this supposed slut world that exists, but I am starting to wonder that it has been massively exaggerated....
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 10:21 PM

southern california, mostly among other hispanics. honestly, is this slut thing a midwest east coast white girl thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 10:15 PM
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1 in 5 men are incel, easily. most men simply are not "sleeping around" and the few men who are getting regular sex are in ltrs, this is why most men (and incels) just want to find a girlfriend for an ltr,
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 03:08 AM
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i still think this bias of "clear disparity" is because we tend to over rate women while under rating men. basically, if she is not fat and looks after herself (make up tries to dress nice) most men consider her 1 in the 1 or 0 binary i.e. fuckable, then if the man is not some "chad" archetype, we think he is "not good enough" perhaps I am projecting, but this is how i view it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 11:45 PM
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it doesn't happen. what happens is most men way over rate women, while under rating men. so we end up thinking women end up with the uglier partner all the time... when actually it's usually looks matched
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 11:17 PM
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i dunno, given the way China and India and other booming population countries exists, i'd guess that figure is the same, maybe even drops. the incel problem if China et al will be interesting to observe for those who are not so blind to not see
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 10:15 PM
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everyone is a special sknow flake dont' you know? making generalities to make general points also makes you stoopid. .s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 02:05 AM
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open discussion on somewhat taboo topics without censorship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 07:50 PM
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this is one of those instance when I hate to invoke that gender is fluid... and ask so what? if in 3000 years masculinity exists much different that ours today, that will be the only masculinty that matters, not the one we knew about. I am saying, as long as there remains a binary (which there probably will) men will conform to that masculinity which will be most rewarded for finding a mate and having progeny. so yes, masculinty will change to something much different than what we know it as... …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 11:39 PM
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In this day and age, you can't really say that having broad shoulders offers any meaningful protection, as anyone could simply shoot you perhaps true, but you can't undo hundreds of thousands of years of primal instinct. women are "wired" to like broad shoulders just like men like that thin waist large hips ration on women... even though you can argue with medical science, most any woman can have a child for her mate now; that still doesn't mean men will start liking pancake ass women with no cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 11:36 PM
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you mean like it's been happening the USA for the last 50 years? I've said it before in other political oriented places, but the left needs to reconcile their love of lax immigration laws/enforement with eroding labor power. Remeber when fast food places hired teenagers? now in Los Angeles region (much of so cal really), it's almost all 40 year old hispanic women and men who can't find other employment and lack education to do anything else. if there were for whatever reason a dearth of said emp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 11:32 PM
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feminism is self regulated eugenics for the species. abort the lesser one night stand child... hold out until you find the equally intelligent man to have progeny. it's natural and right in it's own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 11:01 PM
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mostly irrelevant tbqh if you are good looking, it doesn't matter what ethnicity you are. a bombshell latina women can do fine anywhere, a hottie latino guy can do fine anywhere. the uggo ethnics will suffer the most, since if you are uggo ethnic, even an uggo white person has slightly better SMV
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 10:54 PM
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legit this has to be said more often by both sexes, basically, if you are ugly, you are invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 05:33 PM
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a teenage girl would describe him as ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 05:25 PM
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this. most people you see walking down a busy street are between 3-5s real 6 and 7s are decent looking people who can look sharp with some minor effort (suit and tie, nice skirt and blouse) 8+ are not that common and are basically hot celebrity types and models. everyone overrates themselves massively
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 05:23 PM
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men are attracted to tits ass nice legs wide hips, thin waist nice face
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 05:20 PM
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it's true. as 5'5 incel with bad bone structure i am black pill
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 06:43 PM
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all other things being equal, his "dating pool" is much larger (think female volleyball players across the world and such) so yes, in raw terms
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 06:31 PM
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for men: height face body status power money
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 06:21 PM
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he's trolling...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 06:20 PM
1

yes, to clarify, on other threads in reddit women oriented subs, there are always vocal groups of women who claim pretty women go ignored...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 06:18 PM
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then on other threads, really pretty women complain that they are never approached because the "intimidate" most people. which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 05:51 PM
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that's a good analogy actually... but it seems off in the primal sexual real world.. like we all know if someone just isn't attractive... it's like : so what? is always in our subconscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 04:44 AM
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am 5'5 male and like tall women (to me 5'8+ is tall for woman...) but i am mostly invisible to them since I am short. oh well. btw, I find it odd why most men don't find tall women more attractive... everything looks better all things being equal if they are taller...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 04:43 AM
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these topics go round and round because we always refuse to admit or address there is a base minimum in attraction/looks that must exist among male or female. as a male, trust me, there is a sure set of basic attributes you need as women to meet the basic minimum--as I am certain there are such attributes that women have of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 04:39 AM
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it's not. not to me at least. I need that proxy penis in all the porn I watch...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 12:12 AM
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indeed, and as such, the demand for greater innovations in reducing birth defects that come with age will increase, surely at the genetic level given the circumstances and the way medical science is headed. feminism= eugenics, and as a black piller, I approve. only the able and the best should reproduce. Well educated women should hold out for their equal or superior to have better progeny. this isn't even surprising, we as a species need a self regulating eugenics. Feminism is a natural occurre…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:46 PM
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feminism = eugenics. I like it for this reason, but others most probably don't
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:34 PM
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feminism= eugenics and that is why, oddly, I support it in my sick own black pill way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:23 PM
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it's absurd how some men don't realize height and body proportions determine a lot of physique and good body not a fixed number, at your height, 5'7, honestly, lots of women with big asses and tits will easily weigh ~145ish and not look fat, but rather curvy and sexy as fuck (real curvy ...not fat curvy) there are of course some men who do like that runway model thin look.. but that's not my cup of tea...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:19 PM
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here's some real data http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.532.1096&rep=rep1&type=pdf basically, be ~5 inches taller as a man is the optimal height (if i recall the numbers right, can't be bothered to double check this right now)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:16 PM
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I am not a "red piller" a la r/theredpill, I haven't even browsed that sub in months... I am "red pill" about things, so much that I take tag of being "black pill"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:12 PM
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point me to what Atlas B Shruggin said, im not familiar. but short answer, no, i don't think incelness is a function of ethnic/immigration thing--it's a function of being below average in looks and having mental health issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:10 PM
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it's hard to say... there is a core of latino "cholo" guys, but it seems more so now it's "hipster" type young guys who wear tight jeans and have side part hairstyles... it's hard to generalize such a huge population. some are central american relatively recent immigrants, some are young 20 something first generation, some are older working class men...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 04:26 AM
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nother 5 5 here. you noticing how asian women are now taller than you?, like fuck this young generation are tall, I see young asian girls height mogging me....fuck mang
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 11:32 PM
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i live in los angeles, predominantly hispanic area (i am hispanic) i don't know if east coast people are slutting it up, or midwest whites are, but I don't see any slutting it up within my age bracket (25-30) and most men are just wanting to be in ltr... as most either realize they can't be "chads" or don't want that... (probably the former)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 11:28 PM
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1 in 4, easily, if we combine incel with "undersexed" I think most people aren't having enough sex though, I include women. I just don't see any "sluts" outside of reddit/internet. most women I know, see or encounter have had 1 or two boyfriends in monogamous relationships then get married. this incel phenomena hits men harder, but in general, we are living in a sex-less society it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 10:40 PM
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personal blog post much? methinks every thing you write is undermined by nagging "what if"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:19 PM
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if it's too good to be true... then it probalby is would be my reaction/thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 04:35 AM
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unless you are just being ignorant for sake of conversation, of course conventional attractive men exist: be tall, have nice skin nice smile broad shoulders good strong jawline not too thin (beanpole) not too fat (chubster lardo) not autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 11:46 PM
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if i could i would in a heartbeat, unfortunately i went further down the hole toward the black pill... i really wish i could be blue pill...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 11:37 PM
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it has always been my observation most men simply are not "sleeping around" in college, most guys wore ugly graphic tees and looked (and behaved) like little boys while the few genetic lottery winners had regular "hookups", the rest of us just drank in suasage fest parties. as an adult, I notice most men who are having sex are either married or in ltrs, single men are just hoping to land a ltr. i've said it before, if we had a real study (no self reporting bullshit ethical studies) 1 in 5 men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:57 PM
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let's see, they all are white. ("just be white" confirmed) I'd wager they are all tall or at least 5'9 (don't be short confirmed) and except for the fat guy all seems to have decent facial bone structure... (and the fat guy can just lose weight) just lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 06:32 AM
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apparently it is for many short men though...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 12:01 AM
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OP is like 5'2... so it's more like point A
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:17 PM
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I can almost guarantee you you're missing out some crucial component I believe OP is like 5'2 or some such, sadly, this places him in the range of height where he is all but surely destined to be unattractive to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:15 PM
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read r/short to find out how much of a thing it is for men....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:02 PM
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I mean, isn't this obvious to anyone not trying to hold some grudge? most men are simply not attractive to women... if you haven't figured this out by the time you are 22 or somesuch, you are lacking in social skills probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 11:47 PM
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be a natural alpha; if you aren't one, tough luck boyo. that's what they secretly imply with their mere existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 03:42 AM
1

I've said it before, this recent past century (more or less) is an anomaly of humanity. We are more used to having wars and diseases creating circumstances where inceldom isn't even a thing. incel men of today would have been warriors and felt a bond with their soldiers as the conquered (and raped and pillaged...) or died. Death or glory was the way. now it's shrivel up and die playing video games for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 08:13 AM
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I don't know any "sluts" in real life. liek really, most women are probably too loyal for their own good, sticking it out with low tier men... this whole slut topic does not compute with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 08:02 AM
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legit. basically, if you exude feminity, ie, not fat, have hips and ass and tits, you can be deemed attractive by most men. Most women end up out competing against other women for their "attractiveness" it's basically all genetics. Babies figure this shit out at early age. if you have good facial structure and symmetry and as woman have the marks of being potentially fertile (hips, tits ass) you are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 07:54 AM
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low self worth brought on by other mental/emotional issues
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 11:28 PM
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in non internet reddit speak: a well adjusted person with some semblance of drive for success in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 01:39 AM
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It's amazing the delusion of some in this thread, it never stops, even with solid empirical evidence that people place looks over "personality" all the time https://youtu.be/iOHdZKDldIg?t=1514 "weeelll.. no"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 08:38 PM
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I've read on here in many iterations and I've said it myself: in real life, anyone who is well adjusted person is "purple pill" blue pillers a la reddit blue pillers on r/tbp exist on the internet only. I have never met a person over 25 who did not espouse some "red pill" ideas. (of course, without the internet r/trp speak and vocabulary)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 01:03 AM
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no, that's the thing. once you are past a certain age (~25), being broke all the time while you are persuing your pie in the sky artistic endeavors stops being cute... when all your friends are planning real vacations and buying houses and doing big purchases, it sucks to be poor and basically a perpetual teenager at 25+... the "cool" kids are those who throw dinner parties in their nice house/apartment and drink expensive wine/beers
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 04:41 AM
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I quickly realized that there are those adults who have their own place and aren't costantly complaining about "being broke" vs those adults who still live with parents/relatives and are constantly "broke" the former tend to develop into what we consider "well rounded contributing citizens" while the latter, well, if they are lucky they eventually move out... Eventually adults with "their shit together" stop hanging out with those that don't have it together...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 03:30 AM
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reddit, of course. some link to theredpill, that led me down the rabbit hole to eventually become a black piller (we don't like TRP, just for differnt reasons compared to blue pillers)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 04:43 AM
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There are generally agreed upon attributes of beauty for both genders. no one is denying there are differnt tastes and context matters. I just get peeved when we can't even use generalities to make general points
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 04:40 AM
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Im incel AMA but here's an FAQ tho; Why i think im incel?: im poor neurotic 5'5 bad jaw/teeth. What is wrong with incels you think? We suffer from affective disorders and vulnerable narcissism and I would say a good portion fall in the autism spectrum. (have 2/3 of those, not autism) Why don't you get a prostitute:? We would ideally like someone that wants to be with us, like we see everywhere couples holding hands as they go to eat out and shit... don't really care about fucking a hot hooker mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 03:50 AM
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OP claims are not representitive of the majority of poor people in the world. immigrants don't share the same ideology of well to do upper middle class women. they pop out kids and actually enjoy being mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 06:02 PM
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As always, immigrants are the answer we don't like to hear but know it's true. immigrants come to USA without any middle class liberal angst and become the baby makers and workhorses of the economy. I see it all over the place in Los Angeles; latina women with 3-4 kids while white hipster women carry a toy dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 04:51 AM
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"Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views" W F Buckley.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 11:15 PM
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https://youtu.be/iOHdZKDldIg?t=1514 "weeelll.. no" there is ample empirical evidence which suggests looks halos "personality"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 11:09 PM
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Honestly, I voted Trump just to spite all the liberal SJW pc police. I suspect many did the same as I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 11:00 PM
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it's the most common way women filter out men on dating apps/sites. you are being willfully ignorant or blind, but heres a source http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.532.1096&rep=rep1&type=pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 04:59 AM
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people down in comments seem to be misinformed what is meant by stereotypical masculinity/good looks. It doesn't mean a cliche of bulbous muscles and dude bro attitude, it means: being tall having strong good jawline wide shoulders decent build (not fat, not beanpole thin) deep voice if you have all this ie, you are good looking, you can be any style and still attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 04:56 AM
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good looking people can try the new in styles as they come and "get ass". when you are short and ugly man, it doesn't matter what style you are. Genetics rules all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 04:54 AM
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this is pretty red pill stuff, not "r/Theredpill" but red pill nonetheless
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 06:51 PM
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vanity sizing is even a problem for men's wear. size 32 waist pants fit fucking humongous, I am a size 31 and never can trust tag size since if I go for size 30 it may be true to size and it fits too tight, if I size up to 32 and it's vanity sizing it fits like a 34 almost.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:08 AM
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Hepburn is overrated mousy looking woman
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:05 AM
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no. https://youtu.be/iOHdZKDldIg?t=1514
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:00 AM
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tall good skin nice smile masuline build (this can be stocky, muscly or even somewhat fat if he is tall) preselection is verifiable ie he has been in serious relationship or is being chased by other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 03:59 AM
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Not enough practice ie most men don't/can't sleep around as much as they'd like to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 04:13 AM
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reddit Blue Piller SJW variants are rare, "blue pill" people who are naive are out there but still, you'd have to be very willfully naive to deny red pill Truths, i think most people are purple pill; black pillers are just red pillers who want to shift the Overton Window (black pillers are basically eugenicists)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 08:03 PM
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Most people in real life outside of internet are "purple" pill. I don't even think real "blue pill" men or women exist... just people who are disgusted or uneased by red pill ideas who like to argue, hence this place and TBP
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 07:09 PM
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legit, and ime, most women are flattered when they are approached and don't go "ewww" unless you really are bottom 5% of looks, in which case you shouldn't be out and approaching women to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 07:03 PM
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It's not about the place. It's about the face. lol legit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 07:00 PM
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The burden of responsibility has fallen on men, and the burden of fun has fallen on women. legit
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 06:59 PM
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Rodgers was an ugly gay fish face eurasian male who didn't realize he had to lower his standards and lost it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 05:04 AM
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ya, i think you are right, most people who aren't being willfully naive realize looks matters more than anything else so much of r/trp would be unnecessary if more women were more vocal about how good looks matters more than "personality"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 04:52 AM
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ya, that's not the way Chad is used on most of internet tho, it's usually a pejorative word meant to denigrate those who do not meet male body norms like being tall, lean with muscle, good jawline and good natural charisma...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 04:50 AM
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I haven't lurked on lookism/sluthate in long time.. just did and holy crap LOL I love when they dig up gems like this: Feminist drops brutal blackpill on aspie incels: "It's necessary to me to give a 'no way in hell' because to some guys 'no' means 'ask tomorrow and stalk and bother me at work in the meantime' and a definitive 'never' usually saves a lot of time and annoyance (not always though). Some guys, especially certain shy, socially-challenged types develop the fantasy of you before actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 06:34 PM
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most men are incels playing video games and pokemon chasing and all that shit at young age. women, however, mature faster (read: get tits and ass young and internalize their youth is their greatest value) so they aren't busy doing kids stuff at same age most guys still are riding around on skateboards wearing graphic tees and chasing the pokemon.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 04:35 AM
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I am incel so forgive my possible naive question.. but how would any one know if a woman (or man) lies? it's not like every penetration of the penis etches here vagina or makes her grow a ring on her nail etc. I mean, she can just say any number and get away with it depending on how good a liar she is. this n count stuff perplexes me. It doesn't matter, everyone lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 10:49 PM
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combination of bad economic prospects and red pill going mainstream (ie lots of men are questioning whether marrying a woman who wants to settle down is worth it)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 10:35 PM
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There were "red pill" men before r/TRP back then they'd just be called assertive masculine men or some iteration of that. thing is, most people don't like the idea of beta men turning into "alphas" it rubs people the wrong way for some reason, thus the hate for r/TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 03:29 AM
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legit. and actually this is mostly true in real life. all the couples I see are looksmatched ugly to barely average people who are happy. the real genetic winners are out there having a different kind of a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 06:01 AM
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fat, misshapen and somewhat ugly. this is why we love it when we see attractive people, even on a subconscious level.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 02:49 AM
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not entirely, there are generally agreed upon standards of beauty in any given culture for any given time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 12:41 AM
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Birthrates of Latinos and Asians alone are set to make them majority when combined in about 40 years... I mean, it's over brah. I am not even mad at you from a bullshit "that's racists" sentiment, but I love USA, and just don't think it can or has to be ethno nationalist to remain on top. It needs nationalism but not necessarily ethno nationalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 04:57 AM
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I have no doubt it's emerging, or even that it will be a "thing" but ethno nationalism in USA is not a viable option. Just not feasible. even among whites, what would "count"? Ethno nationalism is better suited for places like Japan and some Scandinavian countries.. but not for long. globalism is making it less likely by the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 04:48 AM
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ethno nationalism won't work, sorry, realistically speaking your best shot was around 1939, and we all know how that went.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 04:19 AM
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immigrants take care of the low birth rate and stagnant economy brought on by feminist green folk. they have bunch of kids and want to buy cars to go to their job. source: live in Los Angeles, bunch of latinos have ton of kids and all drive their honda or trucks and can't have enough spots to park on any street block.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 04:17 AM
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are you suggesting having weak jawline is a good feature for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 03:39 AM
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guy in OP you rank as 6/10 while one guy in my list gets 7/10? lol. ok there is no way guy in OP is 1 point away from any one in this list no matter your personal quirks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 02:32 AM
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I would give him 6/10 well then, I'm a 9/10... serious, we all need to stop over rating people. dude is barely a 4. refrence of good looking men close to 9 or 10 http://i.imgur.com/KfcSodw.jpg http://i.imgur.com/JBWkQfY.jpg http://i.imgur.com/uekkthR.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fU4QQ0w.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 11:55 PM
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yup as long as she isn't fat and has tits we can put it with less than ideal facial aesthetics. I don't think this is true for women, but not sure am a hetero male.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 11:51 PM
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he's ugly, that's why. it's not that complicated. example of good looking dude for refrence:http://i.imgur.com/fU4QQ0w.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 08:19 PM
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I dunno, it seems lots short white guys complain since they are also short like the ethnics, so this sort of places them in same camp.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 06:28 PM
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the 6' metric is mostly used to weed out the real short men (5'7 and under), you are correct, real 5'9 in real world won't face much issues. But it is true that most women prefer tall men, so the 6' thing is a way to weed out the short guys. If a women who says "must be 6'+" meets up with a good looking 5'10 guy, she more than likely won't care. but if the guy is 5'6.... then it's all about "hey i said 6'+" requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 06:27 PM
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the amount dumbfuck turds I see with pretty women tells me no... But TBP tbh has made me change my view somewhat, the guys I see may seem dumb and irascible TO ME, but might not be to their gf/wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 02:51 AM
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I think most men grew up with the incorrect idea that men have plenty of casual sex and "party" like they see in so many movies, so they feel cheated out... when in fact, it has always been the norm for people not to have many sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 07:44 PM
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interesting, just like men. I sort of agree, we are living a culture that rewards the "stiff upper lip" idea
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:22 PM
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that's a fair way of looking at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:00 PM
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the catch being you can't work out to become taller, so there is always a slight edge that gives height more importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:55 AM
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lol, no way, just look up any real stats on height and the actual halo effects height gives men. not to mention the fact that height is number one way women filter for men on all dating apps and sites.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:49 AM
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Because deep down, blue pillers probably can empathize and get the frustaration of red pillers that led them down that path, since we all have felt those feelings involving attraction and relationships. But MGTOW reeks of nihilistic failure--and we all hate failures and those who have "given up" (well, most of us).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:39 AM
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The reason it's mostly pointless is Height>Face>body>personality is teh order for success in being masculine/ good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:36 AM
1

this is legit and acutally "red pill" thinking but not necessarily r/TRP thinking. a naturally good looking and well adjusted man(ie genetically superior) doesn't need gimmicks to help him with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:07 AM
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most BP on here seem sensible, in reality they are all "purple pill" none seem to deny the existence of the "sexual market place" and that people typically pair with looksmatched people. I've seen some admit (and hate) that women sometimes play games ("shit tests") and that these are typically just shitty people not necessarily a gendered thing in their view. I think most just don't like the tone of red pill ideas. Really, I can see more filtered red pill advice being accepted by everyone withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:50 PM
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red pill thinking is not just confined in r/TRP there are way more "red pill" people in general than people think, The current Trump support shows this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:46 PM
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That's why men create great art and great things, well, men who have ascended. "We only live to discover beauty, all else is waiting"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:16 AM
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looks is life. youth is life. pretty much anyone past ~45 is dead. the number is lower relative to your wealth status. Only reason he hit wall at 77 is because he is wealthy and has fame.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:14 AM
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5'5 (lel for real , 5'5) neurotic bad teeth poor mood disorders vulnerable narcissism disorder that's about it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 03:43 AM
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he's probably ugly or average at best (average is the new ugly) looks is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 06:34 AM
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My guess is because it doesn't happen enough to ever make it to the point of being annoying. I'd imagine if men were objectified and ogled as much as women, we'd get annoyed by it as well. one of those things where a little bit of it is great, while a lot is a burden. BTW, I think this is true from some women as well, depending on her looks and her surroundings, some women probably aren't objectified as much as we think, so when it happens they are flattered.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 07:01 PM
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I'm dating him, so of course I think he's attractive. you'd be suprised how often this isn't the case in LTR and marriage. people "settle" and don't want to risk being alone
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 06:29 PM
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i don't get how you and rest are using the word reactive. I am male and I think I also get horny reactively-- it just takes something simple like a women in a dress with nice tits, isn't that a reaction to her body, thus reactive? isn't everyone reactive in this sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 06:28 PM
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because it isn't true in practice. It's like saying you like to travel, but do it rarely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 05:23 AM
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legit as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 02:54 AM
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indeed, and one wonders if there is in fact a "foward" telos for humanity as we know it, there will be tech and tecnocrats fashioning a world with a post scarcity semblance, (perhaps a real one) where we will revert to once what humans were apocryphally portrayed as hedonists who found beauty to be a virtue in and of itself. Make no mistake: we are as animalistic now as we ever were, and looks (i.e. genetic markers of health) is all that matters now and forever. "first world" nations where women…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 12:09 AM
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yup, it is fascinating how both TBP and TRP are coping hard with the idea that looks don't matter or that they can be overcome somehow. looks if life, especially today. Women no longer need a man to support them financially or are shackled by religiosity or outdated social mores, so they care about looks just like men do. looks is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 10:39 PM
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Women are never talking about men below their looks threshold this is just a cop out for you and everyone who claims "looks don't matter as much to women" when the threshold is essentially being above average, looks matter a lot, like almost entirely. your personality and money don't mean shit if you can't sexually attract someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 10:36 PM
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i get plenty of people responding back to me on here saying that "looks don't matter as much to women"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 10:26 PM
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so now we are throwing numbers around from our ass? they care just like men care... see how this myth is prevalent. Being uggo man can't be redeemed by being X, just like being uggo woman can't be redeemed by being X-- it cuts both ways,
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 08:59 PM
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Women care about looks as much as men care about looks. (there are surprising amount of people who think "looks don't matter as much to women")
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 08:15 PM
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this is core Black Pill ideology, btw Looks and Genetics rule. you win or lose at conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 08:43 PM
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Not really, either they (you) are too picky since you want someone at your own level (which is fine) but given sexual dynamics, most men at that level are perfectly fine dating a good looking younger dancer or stylist (ie they don't mind dating down if she is hot), so they (you) are stuck in no man's land. and/or they (you) aren't as attractive as they think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 08:40 PM
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I mean, I don't agree with the above guys premise, but certainly economic changes have taken place where men are more adversely affected. http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2012/07/08/male_employment_never_recovers_from_recessions.html
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 04:46 AM
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something fundamental changed in the 1970's. massive influx of immigration and cheap labor from Mexico, then Central American in 1980's
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 04:45 AM
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just ask any normal man how his day was.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 04:41 AM
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I agree, but this example moves us more toward topic of how men's sexuality differs from women's i.e. Men have more testosterone and gladly would fuck most women if possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 09:40 PM
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ya, why is this even a topic of argument? EVERYONE wants to date higher or at very least equal in terms of look, wealth, status, ambition etc. It's kind of silly how we even quibble over this topic, in real life most people are "purple pill".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 09:33 PM
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incels are going to play video games and watch porn for rest of life... what backlash? most are eagerly awaiting VR porn and girlfriends also. it's really a perfect time to be a chad, since so much "competition" has dropped out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 08:05 PM
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TRPs target audience is Omegas. Betas find TRP gross and weird. i think it's other way around. Subs like r/foreveralone (omegas) find TRP gross, while Betas are borderline enough to realize some of the things TRP says might be true to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 09:53 PM
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as an incel/omega/FA i notice we all suffer from at least one affective disorder and most seem to have vulnerable narcissism and tend to be passive aggressive. a recipe for disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 04:00 AM
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It's a tell-tale sign of being unattractive/beta. and women hate unattractive/beta men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 05:50 PM
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"red pill" and "The Red Pill" are different. Subs like sluthate and lookism.net hate TRP, actually claiming they are too "blue pill" lol ER was more of a black piller, hence the incel rage that drove him to what he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 04:06 AM
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exactly, that is why black pillers reject the red pill. it's all about looks and TRP is a coping strategy for men that never got this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 09:47 PM
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well, i guess this plays into the idea that men are "lied to" that looks don't matter and women liek "personality more" are men really this stupid? I am a black piller, my own experience asa short (5'5) ugly man quickly taught me looks is life
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 06:02 AM
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i didn't say that. lots of women (and men) settle for someone with other attributes like stable provider, kindness etc, but don't necessarily find them attractive/good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 05:56 AM
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I hold similar thoughts, though not as extreme on women "liking violence"--they like dominant men, and in todays culture this can simply mean being a tech billionaire with some wit and balls. all the incels and gamer guys of today would have been warriors/soldiers and would have a purpose (conquier, pillage etc) now we just sit around pretending to conquer and pillage in video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 03:51 AM
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bruh, we lie to save face. heck, I bet many think I am a decent outgoing guy, tho close friends propbably realize I am a loveless guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 03:46 AM
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ya, plenty but when you are 5'5 guy... you are bottom of barrel in those situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 03:40 AM
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Also...... Women aren't like guys in that they'll try to fuck the first thing they see that is remotely attractive. that's sort of the point of this topic. women find most men unfuckable/unattractive whereas men: don't be fat, have tits and ass = it's a go
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 12:47 AM
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Women react to photos differently than men yes, they react to men's ugliness much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 12:46 AM
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anyone over age of 20 who isn't socially stunted can tell you women find most men unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 12:43 AM
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have you tried being attractive? or at least not ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 03:23 AM
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typically suffer from affective disorders and vulnerable narccism, tend to be passive aggressive. most are 5/10 at best source: am incel 5'5 poor and neurotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 06:16 PM
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Women initiate and approach attractive men all the time. lol talk about solipsism. this is how you know as a guy if you are unattractive: if you aren't attracting women, you are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 08:30 PM
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just do it. https://np.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/4x8ph8/is_this_feeling_normal_or_am_i_messed_up/ my guess is most women feel like the above link op feels, we only hear about the vocal bitchy ones since they complain the loudest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 08:14 PM
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i'd think plz let him have normal sexual healthy male college experiencece or else he might turn violent then just say "have fun and use condoms"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/16 05:11 AM
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They get to the meat of what we talk about on here: social-sexual dynamics. so, mostly yes, though they have been getting lazy topics lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 07:51 PM
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That is the extreme version that the Black Pill form can take. I am a black piller becuase I reject TRP and the blue pill. I do place more emphasis on genetics: you win or lose at conception is my motto for the Black Pill as I see it. also my principal ideas for Black Pill are is : 1 in economically egalitarian societies (wealthy nations like USA, EU) with progressive taxation, robust social welfare means that men and women can be independent i.e. the nuclear family is economically outdated. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 07:03 AM
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Articles like this pop up every so often: http://www.economist.com/news/special-report/21688587-young-single-idle-males-are-dangerous-work-and-wedlock-can-tame-them-men-and-mayhem it's sort of a "known fact" outside of certain ideologues, men with nothing to do and no wife/gf to fuck and to attend to have been cause of violence in all senses of the word from instability to war
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 06:20 PM
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Black is only pill. You win or lose at conception. Ugly socially retarted guy? nothing you do is fine. tall Chad? how awesome he's quirky and down to earth! take the black pill
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 05:11 AM
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http://i.imgur.com/ybBVRxA.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 07:55 PM
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lol no http://i.imgur.com/ybBVRxA.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 07:55 PM
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I have to admit that sometimes I feel jealous of men because most appear to have a default, possibly biologically determined, overestimation of their attractiveness, competence, and intelligence lol lookism.net sluthate.com r/foreveralone r/foreverunwanted not to mention the r/TRP and bunch of manosphere blogs and such where they exist soely for coping with their inadequices. all mentally unstable and or ugly people have it bad take the black pill
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 03:04 AM
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I don't know either. as a male, I figure it's just one of those things we have to give benefit of the doubt, but the cynical side of me says it is just bullshit, they probably are just settling for him out of whatever reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 04:00 AM
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this is true, and as incel myself, I actually think female incels---and to extent just regular women-- have it inherently more difficult when it comes to appeasing their social-sexual desires. It's like for men, any pair of tits and nice ass will do. but women don't seem to function that way, they need the man to have social status, a semblance of intelligence, a proven ability to provide and to protect PLUS make their "vagina tingle". My dick tingles at literally an image of a nice phat ass...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 06:11 AM
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lol legit, this is too red pill even for this sub (Note: "red pill" does not equal The Red Pill)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 06:08 AM
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it's mostly just difference of internet speak, with foreveralone being more reddit speak. black pill is a rejection of the red pill without being blue pill. It can be more complicated (and extreme) than that if you do quick google reading, but basically that is what I use the label for: a rejection of both blue and The Red Pill (not necessarily "red pill" thinking)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 06:56 AM
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I don't get the obsession over makeup as "lie" by some... I can tell if I am attracted to a women despite her makeup, you can't apply makeup to make your tits look nice, to make your ass nice, to add hips, to add nice bone structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 05:45 AM
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No, before I got banned from r/foreveralone, most on there seem to dislike TRP, I eventually became black pill, which in some respects is "worse" than red pill to the beta foreveralone types. It seems most incels suffer from affective disorders and vulnerable narcissism (including me) and have a general disposition to being meek, that combined with average-to ugly looks= incel
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 05:16 AM
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Not a woman, but it's funny, if you have hips and some tits and wear relatively feminine clothes (women jeans and tight t shirt is all), you exude femininity to me. this is why I empathize with fat women and those with bad bodies i.e. no hips no ass no tits, as a slim short man (5'5), perhaps I ascribe too much of our identity to our build and genetics, since I feel most women never really see me as a "manly man" due to my slight stature.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 06:40 PM
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Testosterone the libido hormone, in which men's brains are bathed. not complicated really,
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 01:50 AM
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you make mistake of assuming being hot=being shitty person. I am just saying women, just like men (hey remeber women are shitty people too) make their mating choices based on looks now more so then ever before for reasons i said previous comment. it's absurd and down right silly to assume women aren't dictated by their lust and sexual desires just like men are. They are no better than men: we all want and praise beauty. sure, people settle for what they can get, that happy medium, but don't assu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 01:42 AM
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at least in western wealthy nations (USA, Western Europe etc) Women are quickly catching up to men and earning almost the same. That combined with a welfare state (in political sense, not demagogic sense) women no longer depend on successful "go getter" men or rather don't seek them out as much since the government can provide social safety net and promote "equality" and etc pork barrel programs, so women are basing their mating choices just like men have been doing since forever: based on looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 01:14 AM
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Looks matter to women as much as it matters to men, don't buy into the myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 12:45 AM
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I rarely see mismatched couples. This seems to be one of those internet things. out in real world, everyone tends to fall into similar looks matched relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 02:17 AM
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Fool proof sexual strategy for men: be tall have nice smile dress decently don't be autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 10:02 PM
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Maybe your are just ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 01:22 AM
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immigrants will fill the void, as per usual. They will continue to get married and have kids and buy cars and eat meat and not give a fukc about issues like climate change and feminism, they just live
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 09:16 PM
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I barely have any friends and acquaintances and can count 4 incels, though I am also incel, so maybe it's one of those self selecting biases, where if I were "chad/normie" i'd have similar friends but as incel, I know the signs, most men outside of a marriage or LTR simply aren't having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 10:04 PM
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if you have a loose definition, easily 1 in 4. if strictly "kissless virgin" probably 1 in 7
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 05:36 PM
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It's because men have much more testosterone and they get horny and can't have sex with someone willfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 05:54 AM
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most fall in the 4 5 6 as per normal distribution where 4 is regular ugly, 5 is average to some ugly to some 6 is average to most. real 7s are not too common but you see enough of them, these are typically handsome, good looking men. 8 and 9's are male model looks and somewhat rarer (again as per normal distribution) not typically encountered, but when you do see one it's noteworthy how they stand out as really good looking 10's are basically 8 and 9s depending on more personal choices and quirk…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 10:15 PM
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just lol take the black pill already
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 07:47 AM
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am 5'5 incel. i realized this kind of late too, being short ethnic it's kind of pointless. Masculinity is tied up to height and dominance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 05:58 AM
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She's 15 though, lots of women grow out of that JUST
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 08:11 PM
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LOOKS IS EVERYTHING
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 07:48 PM
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gay men are still men with testosterone so they seem to have much more open sexual community. kind of envious tbh, if I were gay, I wouldn't be incel (inb4 turn gay bro)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 11:08 PM
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how do we reach the final number /10? It seems this discussion is confusing looks rating /10 with SMV rating, which I never have seen put in /10 rating assume this guy was incel due to mental neurosis and anxiety: http://i.imgur.com/fU4QQ0w.jpg would that make him a very low SMV? I doubt, since just on looks he probably has some women going "omg I want him inside me" are we talking about looks rating or how much sex you can have? because this is seems to be crux TRP idea that most women can pull…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 10:58 PM
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I rarely see looks mismatched couples. It seems to be a myth, really most people end up with someone in their same "league".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 05:17 AM
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Japanese have much less racial mixing and immigration, so their cultural makeup is still relatively homogeneous. How would ethnonationalism even work in USA? all the Jewish "whites" and Black and Hispanic Americans what they hell would they do? not to mention even within whites, there are different "whites"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 05:59 PM
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ethno-nationlism can't exist in USA and frankly, probably in very few nations today, 1930's was the last shot at it, it's over boyo. Japan and few other asian nations (and actually a few African nations) can maybe have some sort of quasi-ethno-civic nationalism. that said, I am not completely against civic nationalism, but cannot completely support it since it is overtaken by white supremacists that want ethnonationalism
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 06:33 AM
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lol loaded question much? I like women. What I don't like is how my brain is bathed in testosterone and as incel I can't go out in spring and summer without feeling strange mix of horniness, despair, glee, faux ambivalence. It really is about self hate for most incels if you lurk long enough on their internet hangouts. We hate being short, having narrow shoulders, having small head, having small dick, having thin wrists, being beta, being weak willed etc It's our self hate that makes us what we …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 04:54 AM
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being "red pilled" is different than being "The Red Pill" follower. most incels are "red pilled" on life, i.e. dominant good looking men get to enjoy casual sex, while beta men settle for whatever comes their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 12:22 AM
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my asshole side which maybe I have unnaturally suppressed there is your problem, you are pretending to be something you are not, so even the blue pill cutie women ignore you as a fake. Also, you probably are just ugly. Women care about looks just like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 06:35 PM
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I am incel and mostly blame it on my mental problems, but it's a chicken or the egg sort of thing since, I am 5'5 and slim build, so through school I was smallest kid around and felt like I never reached certain milestones, I became more of the introverted type, then things got hazy all through my twenties with too much drinking and self hate and probably depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 09:25 PM
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you may not be "The Red Pill" but you are "red pilled" on life
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 08:24 PM
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just go read the side bar of /r/theredpill
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 08:18 PM
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"red pill" means something like a harsh truth, or something taboo we don't like to talk about openly in society due to the Overton Window or social mores "The Red Pill" is a sub on reddit that talks about dating/sexual strategy for men that by its nature displays some "red pill" ideas
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 08:07 PM
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it's a discussion sub reddit that typically doesn't censor discussion based on "feels" it's not just about TRP vs. BP
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 09:21 PM
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This is correct and is a Black Pill tenet for men: if you aren't attracting women, you aren't attractive and no amount of "holding frame" and bullshit game will help you. Don't skip face day brahs
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 07:07 PM
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I think there is a genetic disposition for males to be dominant but I don't think framing this idea in terms of fascism is good way to go about it. It seems to be approaching the grandiose idea having "grand theory of society" or some thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 09:46 PM
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An aesthetic of romantic symbolism, mass mobilization, a positive view of violence, promotion of masculinity, youth, and charismatic leadership this resonates with me. tbh, as an incel male with very little experience being "masculine" , I crave those things. I find myself getting more bitter and liking right of center politics more and more. I even have theory where guys like me (the foreveralone type) used to be the great soldiers/warriors of long time ago, where we would reach camaraderie wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 08:02 PM
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neurotic, narcissistic vulnerable self hate probably some others i don't know about. I am classic incel loser bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:03 AM
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No, TRP believes you can "lift" and improve your "smv" by being arrogant and holding "frame" But you can't improve your face bones through lifting brahs http://i.imgur.com/VWYjPgK.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 07:02 PM
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TRP cant change your genetics http://i.imgur.com/VWYjPgK.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 06:56 PM
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Agree, that is why I am black pill TRP is a coping strategy for men who for whatever reason never realized looks matter to women as much as it matters to men when it comes to all things sexual. at least in western wealthy nations (USA, Western Europe etc) Women are quickly catching up to men and earning almost the same. That combined with a welfare state (in political sense, not demagogic sense) women no longer depend on successful "go getter" men or rather don't seek them out as much since the …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 03:45 AM
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tall, nice smile. nice jawline lots of hair (i.e. not bald) not too thin not fat. The "personality" thing all comes after the initial physical requirements are met.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 04:25 AM
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I notice most people have severely inflated the /10 system where it's basically turned into a /3 system. I'll lay it out: 1-3: Very ugly to 99.8% of people, causes you to try not to stare or look like you are not trying to stare ugly 4-5: ugly/normal, if they clean up no one will really care or notice them based on looks 6-7: average to slightly above average. Can "clean up real nice" 8-9: good looking people you describe to someone as " ya he/she is really hot" or similar, 10: same as 8 or 9, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 11:08 PM
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I'm ugly, like 6-7/10 if I'm very generous that makes no sense. 6-7/10 is average to slightly above average. ugly is 5 and below
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 10:58 PM
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This. this is what Black Pill is all about. Reject the Red Pill for its inanity that will say "these low smv men just need TO LIFT" The truth is always harsher than we wan't to allow. You win or lose at conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 10:49 PM
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I honestly don't know why women AND men (TRP is notorious for this) keep perpetuating the myth that "looks don't matter as much for women" or that "women aren't as visual" or all its other iterations. It seems women just are comfortable with this myth since in net terms, it helps them seem like the "better sex" or less shallow and more "holistic" in choosing partners etc. but I think this myth hurts both women and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 10:39 PM
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Elliot Rodger did nothing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 08:38 PM
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It's an umbrella term. It is for people who Reject the Red Pill, but who are not Blue Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 01:01 AM
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It's a rejection of TRP that is not Blue Pill. it is an umbrella term, there are extremists how take on the label, and less extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 01:00 AM
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No, as a black piller, I reject the RP. It is a major coping strategy for men who for whatever reasons never realized looks mattered to women and that some men just aren't born with the right stuff due to genetics and socio-economic factors (I place more weight on genetics but things like "charm" are more enviornemntal) And I have read others write better things, but it's clear TRP is geared for white middle class males. and I happen to not be in the camp. All the things I would try just make me…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 09:12 PM
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no, I'd be sad and angry, but I am incel, so my life is mostly just one mental what if, even ogling women on the street is just one big what if,
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 09:07 PM
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I would if I could.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 09:01 PM
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some not fat regular white college aged male I assume, Emma Watson is WAAAAY overrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:23 PM
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can't say for sure. I am incel, so my experience with sex and relationships are not representative of most I assume. I assume by only sexual partner you mean like marrying or ltr? at that point other factors come into play, like for all of us, things like personality, "chemistry", the ability to put up with each others shit etc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:59 PM
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tall and fat= manly man short and fat= lol layoff the video games and cheetos fatso.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 12:06 AM
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If not fat, not deformed, and under ~45, I find you attractive to some extent and would gladly fuck. testosterone is a hell of a hormone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 10:56 PM
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If he's tall and fat, than ya, I would even say more women like tall and fat than men like fat women, by a huge margin. Tall and fat guys seems to do pretty well, it seems being tall is enough to overcome other flaws or less than ideal qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 07:58 PM
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ya, I guess I was just relating my experience with the murky use of "attractive" i have encountered. As a man, I can definitely say that when I say a woman is attractive, I mean they are pretty and I want to have the sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 01:55 AM
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I've noticed this as well. When I say this guy is attractive: http://i.imgur.com/KfcSodw.jpg I actually have gotten responses from women saying "no, he is not attractive, because I am not attracted to him" like ok, I totally get having preferences, but when I say someone is attractive, I mean they posess most of the physical attributes that would classify them as beautiful/handsome
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 01:47 AM
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I am black pill so that sort of places me in RP ranks for this (heaven knows it doesn't make me BP) But I hate how RP claims women can't be loyal or aren't loyal. I see WAY more loyal women than men in relationships, almost to a fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 06:07 AM
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Looks is EVERYTHING at least in western wealthy nations (USA, Western Europe etc) Women are quickly catching up to men and earning almost the same. That combined with a welfare state (in political sense, not demagogic sense) women no longer depend on successful "go getter" men or rather don't seek them out as much since the Government can provide social safety net, and promote "equality" and etc pork barrel programs, so women are basing their mating choices just like men have been doing since fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 04:11 AM
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I am incel male, and I get that there is a difference between incel women and men, but I still empathize with incel women, it's in their nature to be incel for different reasons, they can't help rejecting "creepy" guys or not being able to fuck anyone like men can, they lack the testosterone men have which makes men basically horny machines that want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 07:34 PM
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Yea, I always say, if you losen up the definition for inceldom, easily 1 in 5 guys are "incel"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 04:19 AM
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use online dating and apps in good faith for at least 4 months, that will pretty much tell you where you stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 07:12 AM
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good post, but basically, in other words, everyone is "purple pill" in real life (over age 25, when most people have some experience with life). These internet message board threaks and personas don't exist in real life. I have never met the caricature strawman Blue piller or red piller in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 01:07 AM
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I watched video of him on Jimmy Kimmel, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB8V4uPTSsM the man is smart and knows how to play to the crowd, I can see why he is winning people over.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 07:13 AM
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yup, I am poor and "ethnic minority" but I am also petty as fuck and I will vote Trump just to spite my liberal friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 07:10 AM
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in real life, purple. like most everyone... But I am black pill. which I suppose to answer your question is RP leaning, but as a black piller, I reject the RP. It is a major coping strategy for men who for whatever reasons never realized looks mattered to women and that some men just aren't born with the right stuff due to genetics and socio-economic factors (I place more weight on genetics but things like "charm" are more enviornemntal)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:51 AM
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I have been lurking here for a some time, I just flat out noticed the arguments of BP where mediocre at best, while the RP posters were trying hard to prove points. I think many BPs just gave up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:40 AM
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High Testosterone men find that type of body amazing. women and blue pill beta men not so much
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 02:55 AM
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Take the black pill already. You win or lose at conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 10:10 PM
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TRP doesn't even accept the black pill that looks is THE ONLY thing that matters, let alone misguided beta nice guys. 98% of the male advice in the manosphere is just a coping strategy for ugly/average guys (average is the new ugly in this age of social media online dating app world)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 03:32 AM
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Bullseye!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 03:11 AM
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but she got the Chad... so it alright for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 01:00 AM
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indeed, so if men use TRP as a means to achieve what you just described, so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 12:33 AM
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Miss Emma Watson who wants you do do away with gender roles (and once a time beta nerd fantasy galore) http://i.imgur.com/dsmSeeM.jpg just lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 12:24 AM
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I am FA and neurotic. I don't agree with any entitlement program. I am black pill, and as such realize my type are genetically inferior and do not deserve much.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 07:28 PM
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Bernie is out. this isn't even relevant, but just want to say the left in USA again weaseled out and went for the "moderate" Funny, the GOP will most likely run the real anti-establishment candidate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 09:59 PM
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who cares? really, what percentage of people are poly? .1%? And from what I have seen, these .1% aren't "mentally healthy"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 12:35 AM
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Some use makeup to compensate for insecurity I think your example falls under this reason... I mean why else would you? btw, not that I expect you to agree with me, but it's ok to have insecurity and do something about it to feel good. for a while, I always wore button up shirts no matter what because I grew up poor and immigrant family never thought t shirts or v necks were appropriate... some insecurity on my part I had to address.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 03:01 AM
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Being pretty is good in our society. same reason men get haircuts and shave or maintain their beards etc
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 02:57 AM
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that's not vague at all, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 12:00 AM
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I don't frequent TRP, but was it removed for being messy and convoluted? I was lost a few paragraphs in and gave up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 10:11 PM
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nah, it's just being realistic. if you are short average/ugly ethnic looking guy, you basically have zero chance getting an attractive gf--let alone an attractive much sought after blonde.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 06:50 AM
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Women approach attractive men all the damn time. LOL the red pill is one major coping strategy for men who for whatever reason never realized how looks matter to women as much as it matters to men. If you aren't attracting women you ARE NOT attractive it's that simple. take the black pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 12:23 AM
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If you were born attractive, you would have figured it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 01:53 AM
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Neet "FA" guy here. I am not as obsessed about women as you make it seem we all are. It's mostly an internet rant thing gone too far thanks to the self enforcing pity party. I mostly cope now through being Black Pill (though I mild version, not the extreme "government should give us prostitutes kind") other men use TRP to cope... I can't do it. It's all about LOOKS a good looking guy can be "blue pill" and still be successful with women. an ugly the red pill guy is the funniest thing around.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 06:02 AM
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do you at least notice the severe jump in amount of effort and time and money involved though? also funny how you ignored the height factor... why is it hard for people to just flat out admit it's easier for women to raise their sexual attractiveness (if only by a little?) what exactly are people afraid to lose by admitting this? notice I am not attacking you only, just in general this seems to be common theme on here and throughout internetz debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 02:37 AM
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ok then
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 01:40 AM
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I think you are hinging this entire comment on the word "to lie" OP's point is the typical one we hear of on the manosphere about how in our culture, it's much easier for a woman to "gain a point lookswise" than a man. Born short man with bad skin and balding early? LOL born short woman with bad skin and un-ideal hair: being short woman isn't a big deal, use make up and go to stylist and fix hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 01:10 AM
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what? are you seriously saying only women date unattractive men and men do not date unattractive women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 01:00 AM
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As a short ethnic male, when on the posh side of town with taller white people, I am basically invisible to the women or they probably think I am going to work as a dishwasher or park cars.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 10:44 PM
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you all complicate this too much. women like good looking men just the same way men like good looking women. good looking men are: tall have nice smile have nice hair good skin have strong jawline are at least not fat are at least not twig skinny not autistic or any other mental affliction. See this: http://i.imgur.com/VWYjPgK.jpg from bad looking to good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 10:38 PM
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If that is his goal, then yes. by the basic definition of not getting what you want makes you a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 09:31 PM
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nah. pretty much don't be very fat and don't be deformed is all I need. and I need plenty of men who think they way I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 11:36 PM
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this sub attracts not just TRP I am Black Pill, and I suspect there are many other lurkers on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 11:18 PM
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The internet allows them to come together now in similar spaces, so it seems like there are more. Also, back in olden days, awkward men made good friends with one another as they raided and pillaged villages since they were warriors and had a clearly defined role in their society as hunter-warriors now they just play video games where they pretend to kill things
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 07:31 PM
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you need sex as a subset of deep affection for a healthy life. sure, you can be a neurotic incel who never cuddles and have sex and live an unhealthy life....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 07:55 PM
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good looking nerds do just fine; just like good looking <anything> short, bad teeth, bad skin ugly nerds are incels
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 07:19 AM
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It's wired into our brains. male monkey brains like nice tits, hips, legs, butts because it means : this woman is healthy and can birth babies. women like: broad shoulders, nice symmetry, nice teeth etc because it also signals health and ability to provide for offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 06:01 AM
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what they currently do now: slave away at their job, buy video games, collect comics books or some such and hope to land a wife in their early-mid 30's who needs to "settle down"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 12:41 AM
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real misogynists are mad that Elliot Rodgers didn't kill more women. I think we need to stop throwing that word around so easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 02:47 AM
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I am attracted to nice butt, legs and tits and at least not deformed face. anything else is negotiable to a great extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 07:02 AM
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not much. most welfare poor people are also working class.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 12:15 AM
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in real world, everyone is "purple pill"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 12:13 AM
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http://i.imgur.com/VWYjPgK.jpg ugly to average
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 08:48 PM
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this is true. Beautiful people never hit the wall. they attracted all sorts of people when young, then they attracted all sorts of same age people when old. heck, I have seen some hawt 50 year old women--tall, tight body, nice tits and ass-- that make men of all ages still turn heads. The red pill is a coping strategy to deal with being ugly and to refute the only truth: that looks matters and it's all genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 07:07 AM
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men do this all the time... it's exactly what "the red pill" tells them not to do. I am sure women have advice that tells them the same, to not get crazy over some cock.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 07:04 AM
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no one likes to be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 05:58 AM
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Why are women attracted to handsome brooding men? fixed that for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 05:46 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/422qpb/q4women_what_if_you_found_out_your_son_was/cz8xuhp I get similar responses like that all the time since I am black pill and always call out the coping strategy that the red pill is (namely, for guys who are ugly-average and don't realize looks matter to women just as much as it matters to men)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 05:44 AM
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I have always said The Red Pill is an effective coping strategy for men who for whatever reasons never realized looks matter to women as much as it does to men and that not all men can be "charming" due to genetic and socio-economic shortcomings. Note however, in net terms, I actually think Teh Red Pill is actually good, since in its more "clinical" term, coping strategies are actually good and healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 05:42 AM
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it's more of the colloquial use of "average" and not strictly the statistical average. It's just a long post to say that most men are not attractive to women--which is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 08:26 PM
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yup. most men I see are flat out ugly. I can see why women are "so picky".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 04:16 AM
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hyperbole but looks accounts for majority of attraction. Especially since studies even show one's perception of charisma and intelligence are affected by our prejudice to beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 02:22 AM
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There is an element of "halo effect" going on here, a widely noted real phenomena where good looking people effectively can't be bad or wrong etc due to our prejudice for beauty. yet again why I am black pill. Looks is the only thing that matters and cannot be faked with red pill strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 11:06 PM
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I just now assume any ugly guy who is buff and confident is "the red pill" naturally good looking men who are just lean and tall and have traditional sense of masculinity don't register as "red pill" to me--though they may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 10:55 PM
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There is top post right now in r/mildlyinteresting showing a guy getting jaw surgery and shows before and after. the poor guy still looks ugly after expensive painful surgery http://imgur.com/a/VD8P2 The black pill basically comes down to admitting defeat if you are born ugly--though black pill does support looksmaxing, i.e. doing anything to improve your looks, but it doesn't give a shit about being charming and holding "frame" since looks is everything. YOU WIN OR LOSE AT CONCEPTION. look at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 08:48 PM
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The Red Pill is one major coping strategy for men who for whatever reasons never realized looks matter to women as much as it matters to men and that being charming takes certain amount of intelligence and social ability which not every man gets to have due to genetics and socio-economic factors. So, yea, if you are feeding your short, ugly twinkish son lies about "be yourself" and all that, don't be surprised when he turns to the red pill manosphere. It is a tricky thing to deal with. You canno…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 05:51 AM
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male here. Pretty much any non-deformed, non-fat woman makes me horny. yup, cliche I know, but there it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 04:58 AM
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tall, nice smile. nice chin lots of hair (i.e. not bald) not too thin not fat. The "personality" thing all comes after the initial physical requirements are met.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 12:18 AM
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actually, no. more like they take more vocational and nursing degrees and such and get employment while layabout fuck boys pretend to work on motorcycles and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 07:30 AM
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lol Women are "shunning" men, not the other way around. Western women are more educated, will outearn men in in few years, and are "sexually liberated". The problem is there aren't enough "real good men" for most women and too many "fuck boys".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 07:06 AM
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real misogynists hate women... like for real as in they are mad at Elliot Rodger for not killing more women... lol get a grip OP these misogynists probably don't even get their mothers to hug them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:03 AM
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