Difference between a 3/4 and a 6/7.

saturnshellz · 2017-05-05T04:44:14+00:00

I would say the guy on the right is more than a 6/7, maybe an 8/9.

Yeah, most people starting at 3 won't be able to go to a 9. But can they get to a 6? Yes, especially if they're interested in pursuing fellow 6's.

The guy on the right can a) get a better haircut, b) get some treatment for his acne. That alone would make him look a lot better. If he really wanted to go all out, some jaw implants or facial fillers could get him to an actual 7, but I understand that's not feasible for everyone (whether financially, or unwillingness to go through plastic surgery).

What else could our 3/4 guy do? He can work on his body. Unless he has some disorder, he can get fit. A good body will give you a lot of leeway for a bad face.

So, overall, I'm unconvinced that the 3/4 guy can't go up to a 6/7, only that he can't go up to a 9.

siaynoq11 · 2017-05-05T05:58:31+00:00

Dude, look at Benedict Cumberbatch, or Matt Smith. Terrible faces, lots of charisma. The guy on the left isn't fucked if he develops some personality and success.

Fdreal · 2017-05-05T04:26:52+00:00

-3/28 or -0.10714285714285714285714285714285714285714285714285714285...

uto-uto · 2017-05-05T04:47:30+00:00

i don't entirely agree. someone has posted this before; discounting the good that better grooming and styling can do is a bad idea. i don't think either guy in the OP's picture, but even skincare/concealer or perhaps facial hair would alter or improve his look. he could try a different expression too; bet he looks better joking around with friends or something, not contemplating his imperfections. he's got room to grow if he's young too.

and hey, if you feel like nothing's working still, do the opposite and own what you got, do your own thing. there's more than one way to stand out. i mean, look at this guy. not people's sexiest, but certainly awesome. this guy too. neither of those men strike me as club/party/casual types, but interesting guys can get laid/love even if they don't look like a hemsworth.

depending on which look he's sporting, maynard james keenan could blend in on the street pretty easily, without drawing a glance. but no doubt, tons of ladies still adore him too. there's so much more than looks to consider, so why give up on everything just because you're not a 10/10 male model? blech.

you have every right to give up and refuse; most won't stop you if you insist. and there is a chance you won't get 100% of what you want (such is life). but if you won't even try, then you'll get exactly what you resigned yourself to.

AloneOnTheStrange · 2017-05-05T06:21:26+00:00

I'd be more interested to see a photoshop that only changes the things that can be fixed. See what he would look like without acne, clean shaven, less fat on his cheeks and chin, and more muscle on his neck. That would be a fair comparison to show the limits of non-surgical self improvement.

ClarityofDisaster · 2017-05-05T10:26:03+00:00

I'd say the guy on the right is a 9, the guy on the left is a 5. However, he could move up to being a 7 if he lost the acne and got a more flattering hair cut...and either decide to have facial hair or don't. The "shadowed" look I see some guys sporting just makes me think they are too lazy to shave.

Hairbrainer · 2017-05-05T04:39:23+00:00

Attractiveness isn't based just on jawline and eye shape. There is a lot a man can do to improve his looks before reconstructive surgery has to come into play.

Eastuss · 2017-05-05T07:17:31+00:00

You call that decent? I call that a perfect 10/10. People aren't over rating men, people are UNDER rating men. Why? Because a 6/7 shouldn't represent 0.0001% of the population, that is what 10/10 represents. And I only speak about young non obese men.

What is missing for him to be a 10/10 according to you?

But I agree that people are easily lured by make-up. Make-up will only change skin quality, never it will make a woman's face suddenly become diamond shaped or square shaped (apparently the most popular face shape is to look like a man??? no thanks I want her jaw feminine)

grindlegrundle · 2017-05-05T10:53:17+00:00

Ok, sure, but here's the thing: Hundreds of thousands of years of sexual selection have made it so that very few people today are truly genetically "ugly." Most people's faces, if they grew up with adequate nutrition and without too much stress, are surprisingly close to the golden ratio proportions of facial beauty. After that, it mostly comes down to health, personal care, and intangible attributes like confidence, wit, and style.

The guy on the left will never look like his imagined perfect 10 self on the right, but he's he's far from hideous. If he went on accutane, got a better haircut, worked out, and got some nice clothes, he would be attractive to plenty of women. By focusing on needing to be perfect, he is holding himself back from developing the attributes that actually might help him.

bones_and_love · 2017-05-05T07:32:02+00:00

The numbers kind of thing is a little misleading... if you're ranking physical perfection, then yes, physical perfection has its limits. Strip away all cultural aspects / style from someone, stand em up naked in peak athletic shape, and you'll have your upper rating they can get.

But then there's the practical number that includes style, friend's group / culture, and even behavior (some as simple as how you stand / what you look at). Honestly, that guy on the left can look slick man. Imagine him being a really rich club owner with an ear piercing and a group of party promoter friends, he dresses in really hip clothes, and jives heavily with a particular group. He's gonna fly above that number we just talked about above.

The crux here (for most people) is that they don't like to see their social failings as avoidable or even happening at all. Most people wouldn't introspect and then suddenly admit, "You know what, I'm a big fat loser." or even "You know what, I'm not extraordinarily popular." There's a strong emphasis on accepting yourself and the idea of life just being right for everyone the way they live it, assuming a few moral standards. Well, you can think all that and it's great, but don't pretend like there's not a version of you that's 'cooler', which in general means through social graces is more attractive to everyone in a certain group (guys wanna be your friends, women wanna date you). If you're going to complain about the issue, at least be honest with where the room is for improvement in the area of social chops. Frankly, there's a big fat chunk of people who are just ok at social stuff. They haven't really focused on it, and it's not something completely natural to them. If you feel limited by your looks, try to transform yourself socially (as well as physically) both to the peak. I put that caveat for most people because everyone can admit that awful, unfair, and sad extreme case where someone is truly so physically deformed that it hampers them even socially. If you were born without a jaw and with one leg, as a very extreme example, it's just hard to imagine that guy becoming a socially awesome guy that is alluring to many people. But as far as OP's picture is concerned, come on.

LewisCross · 2017-05-05T13:30:58+00:00

Am I the only one who thinks it's funny and ironic that all these women on this board are saying what "guy on the left" should do to be better looking and improve?

Guys, never listen to women. Never take advice from women. Next, they'll be saying how "Left Guy" looks like such a "nice guy" and he should "be himself, and someday someone will love him just for who he is". Except that "himself" is not as good looking as "guy on the right".

Guy on the left gets shit on. Guy on the right gets laid.

doochie123 · 2017-05-05T04:21:12+00:00

The original guys is above average. I don't think you realize how ugly and out of shape most men are.

IIHotelYorba · 2017-05-05T06:42:01+00:00

Go to a club and see who the hottest girls are with. There aren't that many guys that look like the one on the right.

LittleWindowpane · 2017-05-05T22:16:43+00:00

Depends: are you a 400 pound 2/10 guy, or are you a fit 2/10 guy? This dude went from lardass to Chad-tier looks.

prodigy2throw · 2017-05-05T04:20:40+00:00

All the women here are gonna say guy looks better on the left. I guarantee it.

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trpobserver · 2017-05-05T05:41:16+00:00

Hey, he might get a little bit more of a face like the one on the right if he gets on steroids. Another of many reasons why roids should not be illegal. They just make guys look better.

squidracer · 2017-05-05T08:32:50+00:00

Getting in shape goes way farther for a guy then simple makeup or Photoshop.

sunkindonut149 · 2017-05-05T14:19:27+00:00

This is photoshop. The second guy is the first guy with his face shooped onto the golden ratio face.

sunshine99ss · 2017-05-05T19:12:46+00:00

The photo on the left does not look like a 3. He looks fairly average, but slightly above not below.

washington_breadstix · 2017-05-06T21:57:11+00:00

You didn't even mention physical fitness. That's a huge part of it. Someone with an average face can be physically desirable if they have a killer body.

changeIsTheWay · 2017-10-06T03:26:29+00:00

Muh showering and lifting

fetchyminx · 2017-05-05T05:12:03+00:00

Neither looks attractive, sorry

Temperfuelmma · 2017-05-05T05:34:28+00:00

It's not all genetics. If you have great genetics but beta frame you're just going to be used as a dildo. You need to develop the right kind of alpha attitude to make a woman stay.

reepbot · 2017-05-05T06:27:05+00:00

Damn women have got some high standards.

Title	Difference between a 3/4 and a 6/7.
Author	voteGOPk
Upvotes	9
Comments	166
Date	May 5, 2017 4:13 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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