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Discussionbornredd/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 04:31 PM
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Broke condoms regularly for years. Finally a girlfriend recommended larger ones. Thanks, American sex education!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 08:41 PM
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I don't ever try to pick up girls while I am with my kids. That said, there is a set of conditions that leads to normal interactions progressing surprisingly far. I am with only 1 of my children (normally I take 3+ with me everywhere) We are in a place where the kids can interact independently I am not with my wife Usually I will run into a single (or not so single) mom at the playground, state park, whatever. My daughters are all hyper social so they will start playing with the others' kids. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 08:29 PM
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There are different kinds of love. I don't think anyone will dispute that one can love children, animals, family members, and platonic friends without sex. Sex clearly doesn't require love. But I am of the opinion that romantic love, without sex, would be awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 09:52 PM
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Yes they do. I work in IT consulting and most of my old co-workers swam in this bullshit. Guys 18-50+. One started dating the only girl on helpdesk (6-7/10) and everyone else wanted to know his "secret". Guess what it was? Telling her he was interested and actually going on a date. Same department as the girl, peer level positions. 40+ guys sat on their hands despite having the same opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 08:30 PM
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I am an attractive man (8/10). TRP showed me how to quit fucking up and easily maintain that initial enthusiasm my wife feels for me. It helped me get through a ton of shit from my abusive mother. I also look even better.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 08:22 PM
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Women choosing their oppressor is better than not choosing. Just as all governments are oppressive, choose the one that meets your needs the best and get fucked by just that one repeatedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 08:18 PM
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? I love my strong, independent wife. She's awesome. I hope our daughters grow up to be just like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 07:13 PM
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Sure, if you're already in a relationship. Go set up a sex only FWB and see how cranky he gets when you don't do "relationship parts".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 07:06 PM
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Aww, because you don't want to improve your worldview?? Sorry for wanting to be better than I already am.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 06:51 PM
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Dude, there are loads of hot poor women, especially when they are young. Poor girls can be just as fine. The issue is they normally get fat as they age. They don't have access to top tier men for relationships. Hell, due to their economic situation, they don't even meet any so they go full bore for trailer park alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 06:42 PM
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It also requires the father to probably be a poor father on some level for him to have a high powered career. Where is the outrage about how unfair that is to these powerful men? Oh, it only matters for women? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 05:29 PM
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I don't know about GLO, but I care because to me this is where the real work of finding edges in TRP philosophy is discussed. Preaching in the TRP subreddit doesn't teach anyone but those who don't already know anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 04:48 PM
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If a woman has to look online, that means she can't find what she wants in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 04:43 PM
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My mother was incredibly controlling and abusive. Started having sex at 14, never had issues with sex outside of when I was trying gay stuff. Of note: my father was present and very involved in my upbringing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:00 PM
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I love women with resting bitch face. For real, Mrs. Redd was one of those women who always got told to "smile more". I think it is super hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 08:17 PM
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Every time I'm in Austin, TX I can't believe my eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 07:10 AM
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Staying in shape and exercising will handle about 75% of hotness. The other 25% is natural boob shape/size (hi padded push up bra!), natural waist:hip, hair color and texture (color can of course by dyed), and any facial derivation from the norm (can be partially compensated for with makeup).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 09:26 PM
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I believed in TRP before implementation because it matched up to my observations very closely. It gave me the drive to implement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 09:23 PM
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I had tons of choice of women when I was in my 20s. I'm hardly Chadly, but I am attractive. Small framed, thin, at the time I had terrible facial hair. Literally had 3-4 girls at a time trying to push out my gf at the time to take her place so we could get married. I was a fresh BBA grad, no real job lined up in a shitty economy during/after the early 2000s economic recession.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 06:12 PM
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Damn man, minus the suits (my tech firm discourages formality in our own offices) it sounds very similar to my experience. Glad to know I am not alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 05:41 PM
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What? When I am at work, I talk about work. Sex never comes up around co-workers or clients unless they bring it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 05:35 PM
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I do! Quite a few, in fact. Most are former co-workers. Some are wives of my friends. I am not fucking any of them, before you ask. My woman friends tend to be over 35, intelligent, and have excellent work ethic. My male friends run a similar demographic, but about 5 years younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 03:24 PM
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Probably because this post reads as an actual misunderstanding of the misogyny that people see in TRP. This sounds like "hey, I get it, but why would I want someone who will just tear out my heart and steal my kids?" Vs "omg you are so evil for saying that women do mean shit to men! What about all the mean stuff men do to women? I don't do that mean stuff to men, so what you are saying is discriminatory and misogynistic!"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:28 AM
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What? Women aren't "horrid, despicable creatures"! I wouldn't ever call my wife or daughters that. Are some women pieces of shit? Absolutely! Maybe even most, but that is true of men as well. Granted, I was married for many years prior to finding TRP. Also, it seems that I was one of those "stumbling alphas" and not a "hopeless abused beta" like TRP's current demographic. Maybe women treat those men shittier than they do me. I implemented TRP because I was unhappy with myself. It provided the to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 04:19 PM
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Their hobbies and interests are things that lead to them being in shape. You don't need to do as much cardio when your hobby is soccer, for instance.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/17 11:50 PM
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Dem voting anarchist reporting in.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/17 11:28 PM
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Single: my money is mine. Yours is yours. If we are going out, I will likely pay unless we discuss it beforehand. Large trips and stuff are negotiated separately. Married: both our incomes go into joint accounts. We budget everything. Groceries, clothes, grooming, bills, gifts, activities, kids stuff, everything! In this way we really leverage dual income towards building wealth for the family unit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 06:07 PM
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It sure isn't. Makes me kinda sad, like an old friend you don't get along with anymore but you wish you did, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 11:40 PM
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My dad was a ladies man, big time. The sex talk was him handing me a book on puberty and saying, "let me know if you have any questions." I figured out girls on my own. To be fair, I got falsely accused of rape once as a teenager. Didn't even have sex. She accused me of rape for kissing her (we had been dating and were talking about getting back together). So there were definitely missteps made in my life while figuring it out, but I am also gifted with a high degree of ability to bullshit in co…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 11:37 PM
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He is part of a large social network with me. Everyone knows what has happened and at least 4 of us have talked to him about it. Asking him how it feels to be always getting the raw end of the deal, so to speak. He believes that he made a commitment that he can't break so he won't divorce her. He can't even imagine trying to get her to change get behavior. He is probably autistic - he is a lifelong IT worker and extremely talented. He makes 6 figures and can buy basically whatever he wants. I ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 11:35 PM
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But she's "in loooove with him" because he's so "caring". The fact is, If he weren't a beta, he'd have dropped her ass the first time. That's why betas end up in dead bedrooms. They don't standup for themselves when it drops from 5x a week to 2x, so once it is once a year, it is too far gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 07:54 PM
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My wife explained to me in very basic terms the other day that I am an "alpha male" and every other guy she tried to date turned out to be a "beta male". I played pretty retarded and asked her to explain. She laid out almost all of this in real time. It was pretty hilarious. In other news, my wife thinks I am a Chad who she convinced to fall in love with her. I am not sure if she is right or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 06:53 PM
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Fuck that subreddit. This poor guy is getting turbo boned by both his wife and his church. It is really sad, but I have offered to help him out and he doesn't want to hear anything that doesn't fit his Godly Marriage narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 06:44 PM
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But then I see pretty much all of this as like a, "why didn't your parents teach you these life skills?" Lots of these guys had no fathers or super beta dads. If your mom wasn't a mixed signal sender, how would she know to teach her sons?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 06:38 PM
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Yes. A former co-worker. Mr. Tall (6'3"+), reasonably good looking IT engineer. Dated around, traveled for years, smashed here and there, but he was pretty Billy Beta, so decided to settle down in his early 30s. He was seeing a woman who was divorced, 1 kid. She had a penchant for bad boy addicts (ex husband plus at least 2 more that he knows about). She met Mr. Tall at church. They got married, kid turns out to be a drug addict criminal (shock and surprise). She cheats on him with ex husband at…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 06:26 PM
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In my personal experience (both lots of casual sex and been in a 5 year LTR and have been married for over a decade with lots of kids), my wife had quite a bit of casual sex and is the most loyal companion I have ever had. She doesn't even look at other men anymore, which is interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 06:05 PM
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While I am a man, my sexual preferences have changed over the course of my life. I was very strongly attracted to Asians in my teens but now I rarely find any eastern Asians attractive (Korean, Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 04:34 PM
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I do. I prefer both appetizer and dessert!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 04:31 PM
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Because it is awesome, that is why.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 06:43 PM
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"You aren't my type" has always been enough for me, but I am a man. That said, it works on women and gay men just as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 06:32 PM
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True, I quit drinking awhile back and am in much better shape these days.
/r/TheRedPill01/11/17 06:19 PM
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Why does it matter what someone wants if they don't say anything about it and don't bother anyone who doesn't give it to them? If that's entitlement, then I guess I am feeling entitled to a Ferrari, because I would like one and don't have the money yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 05:48 AM
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Being fabulously wealthy doesn't hurt. Is he really a sex symbol though?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 05:44 AM
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It isn't entitlement unless they demand it. By being a passive participant and then shunning, it isn't attempting to force others to confirm to their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:22 PM
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He is super tall but looks like he has FAS to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:16 PM
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I am in the top 20% but not the model tier looks category. Met my ex by grabbing her ass with both hands full on in public at a social event (year was 1999, iirc). She punched me in the chest, I laughed really loud. I figured if she was actually mad she would have aimed for my face. She called me an asshole. I told her she could grab mine if the punch wasn't repayment enough. We almost got married after 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:13 PM
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This sounds like it is rooted in a personal anecdote. Care to share?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 08:36 PM
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My drive hasn't dropped, that's the issue. Wife and I have sex literally every day and median time is over 25 minutes from insertion to end. I don't have 2-4 hours a day to dedicate to fucking these days.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/17 08:07 PM
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Oh, I agree that it is important for my long term goals. It just isn't a vital necessity the way paying current bills is. If my wife didn't work, our budget would be exceptionally different and we probably would have stopped at kid number 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 01:37 PM
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I smoke 3 cigarettes a day and a fair bit of grass. Still basically a walking erection.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/17 01:36 PM
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Not arguing that at all. I just prefer my hot women to have some chutzpah.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 12:51 AM
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I am reminded of the line by Sam Elliott as Virgil Earp in Tombstone, after his arm was mangled by a shotgun blast: Don't worry Allie girl. I still got one good arm to hold you with.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/17 10:31 PM
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I wish my libido would drop, just a little bit. I am in my mid 30s. 7-10 times a week these days, and I am still a crazed beast. T levels are normal. I have always been this way since I hit puberty.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/17 09:44 PM
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I love this comment on many levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 09:36 PM
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Not the person you responded to, but they certainly can be if they stay in shape and take care of themselves. In many cases, men do get better looking with age. I am cursed/blessed with this trait - awkward in high school, started to look ok in college, best appearance of my life in my mid 30s. My father looked 35 until he was almost 70 (which coincided with an injury that prevented him from exercising) - it caused lots of confusion when people met my mother as they aged, because people literall…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 09:34 PM
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Hot, educated, career women in pencil skirts drive me crazy. Bonus points for RBF. Seriously, my wife constantly scowls at work - that is where we met - and it was a massive turn on for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 09:22 PM
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I mostly agree. Sexual attraction is the price of entry. Frequent, enthusiastic sex is necessary for maintenance of the relationship. Other family duties (home, kids, etc come next) Money is nice to have, but I make enough for both of us, if necessary. My wife's income (75% of mine) is just going into savings and investments.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 09:18 PM
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I also feel like the other TRPers don't understand the value in a woman handling household and social duties (plus child rearing). My wife is a career woman but still helps out quite a bit in those areas. Had I been born truly UMC or higher, I probably would have married more for money/social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 09:14 PM
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Dude, I have done all of those things and don't anymore, and I am pretty fucking red. This argument doesn't make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 03:06 PM
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Yes indeed. So go focus on actual evil and leave the TRP neck beards alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 08:15 PM
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Probably the same way that someone without faith judges a religion, or the way a religious person judges historical religions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 03:13 PM
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Subjective judgements. If manspreading is harm, than anything is. The person espousing that position should not be considered a worthwhile source of information. Likewise, someone who broadly declares all manipulation to be evil has a clearly subjective judgement clouding their logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:04 PM
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Subjective judgements. If manspreading is harm, than anything is. The person espousing that position should not be considered a worthwhile source of information. Likewise, someone who broadly declares all manipulation to be evil has a clearly subjective judgement clouding their logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:04 PM
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If you follow your own logic, everyone, including yourself, is evil and should be discounted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:02 PM
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And what makes a "good people"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 07:43 PM
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And what makes a "good people"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 07:42 PM
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I talk to everyone. Young, old, men, women, kids, black, white, Hispanic. I don't give a fuck. I am looking for good times and friends. If I can get a few good laughs out of making faces at a toddler in line at the grocery store? You bet I will. If his mom is pretty, all the better. If he is with the babushka 90 year old grandma/nanny? I don't care, she is probably funny too. People like those that have a good time. Have a good time with everyone you meet. That is the best kind of game.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 04:23 PM
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Yup, I comment here 20 times more than in /r/TRP. I have what I need from there. The lessons I learned are still yielding fantastic results. However, there is more, and that is what I am trying to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 03:52 PM
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Married RP man here. I make about 58% of our money, she makes 42%. Together we are well over 150k/yr in a low COL area. We put all money into joint accounts. She tracks day to day expenses and handles most of the purchasing. We review the budget every quarter to make sure goals are on track. We consult each other anytime we are spending more than about $200. We always have the option, and there is no rule or anything to do so, we just want to let the other know. Anything is on the table, but tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 03:45 PM
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I never asked my wife. She never asked me. The only reason I knew my ex's count was that she was a virgin when we met in high school. I don't ask. She ain't mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 03:04 PM
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All unique snowflakes, huh? And no common, systemic issues anywhere in sight?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 02:58 PM
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Frame. Frame is the difference. Well, frame and breaking it down so the autists can understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 02:56 PM
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Yes. It was a woman with asperger's. It was like freedom and golden rays of light shone upon me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 07:53 PM
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In my experience, I can generally understand how she gets to her wrong opinions. Her thought patterns are usually logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 07:44 PM
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Depends on if the attempt to get pregnant takes longer than a few months, in my experience. Also, how clinically the woman approaches the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 07:32 PM
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Ambitious men of means, who also happen to be the men that fall in the category of "dominant, wealthy, and powerful." So, you know, the ones who matter to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 07:30 PM
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Others might, I don't. Hrm. Literally the only time I have ever called my wife a slut is in the middle of intense sex. Never to a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 07:13 PM
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It is practiced by me and my marriage has become spectacular again, for both of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 07:05 PM
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Even if you consider every woman worthless in her person (which they most certainly aren't), this would be wrong. There's a reason marriages were used to secure alliances and end wars. Expanding familial connections and influence through marriage has been one of the primary drivers of marriage throughout history.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 06:21 PM
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Because being dominant and objectifying are attractive up to a certain point for nearly every woman. The distance above "true egalitarianism" will generally vary pretty far from normal daytime duties when you are dealing with sexuality. In short, chicks dig guys who act like that to at least some extent. It is more beneficial for a man to err on the side of too much than not enough up to the point of actual abuse or nonconsensual violence. Whether or not this has roots in evo psych, it appears t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 06:17 PM
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Then why shouldn't n count be a factor in partner selection?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 06:07 PM
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When I was young they did!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 09:37 PM
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They don't think in terms of a random, nameless, faceless example as in the OP but mine gets closer to a valuable inquiry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 09:35 PM
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And here we have a primary source example of a woman who has zero attraction to a man who isn't offering commitment. Fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 09:34 PM
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I am a liberal and a married RP man. Being a liberal makes you sane and rational no more than being a human makes you a toaster. I know plenty of insane emotional liberals and conservatives. Judging from the rest of your post, you are neither sane nor rational. If you cannot see your own bias when looking at TRP content, then maybe you need to go sit with a mirror for awhile and really think about projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 09:22 PM
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Conservatives are more compassionate towards their own in-group but nowhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 09:11 PM
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Sexual past, for men and women, matters. A person that's had 100 partners and someone that's saving themselves for marriage are likely to have incompatible values around sex. This appears to be 100% in contradiction with the stock BP belief that women's n count has zero bearing on her future behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 08:52 PM
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You are approaching this question from the wrong angle, as all of the "I wouldn't want a man who didn't want me" posts indicate. The correct format would be: This is in the context of YOUR DREAM GUY who IS CURRENTLY sleepING around and IS not ACTIVELY PURSUING a relationship, but you ARE. There is no flipping the question around about 'what does the man bring to the table?' DREAM GUY can be anyone that you feel incredibly compatible with. If you are currently married, how would you deal with thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 08:40 PM
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I am an 8 on a good day. 5'10" 165lbs, reasonably good looking with a kickass beard and one of those trendy Viking undercuts. In the "weird tattooed pierced emo/goth/scene girl market" I am considered a 9 or 10, generally. When my best friend set up a tinder profile with a short to the point of being non existent profile, that profile gets 3-10 matches per day of women over 4/10. However, ZERO are "Stacy". Photos for reference are: Driving my truck with sunglasses on. On a boat with sunglasses o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 06:40 PM
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Because feminists only spend time attacking things that they feel they are making progress against/ are responded to by those criticized. For instance, do you think if the recent trouble Harvey Weinstein had about sexual harassment was instead Snoop Lion (Dogg), that he would give a shit? Do you think he'd let his own brother vote him out of his company? Fuck that. If someone refuses to participate in the discourse and ignore the criticism, then feminists have no power. That is the power of hold…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 06:19 PM
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Look, I'm going to put this plain any simple for you dumb fucks. Men are attracted to women that resemble their mom and women are attracted to men that resemble their dad. Hahahahhahaahhahahahhahaahhahhahah Oh my god no. I went out seeking the exact opposite of my mother and that is who I married. Mother was: Short, fat, narcissistic, lazy, abusive, dark haired, glasses, math genius, and built like a sack of potatoes. Wife is: 5'8", super thin, STACKED, hard working, kind, redhead, perfect visio…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 05:40 PM
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When incel posts were allowed, 90% of the front page was dumb, "woe is me, I am short and/or Indian" or, "women are all evil because they hate me" posts. I want to discuss actual relationships and sexual strategies. Not why Captain NoConfidence can't work up the nerve to talk to a girl. It boils down to willingness to face rejection aka bravery in the face of fear. Unfortunately no Incel is willing to face that harsh truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 05:35 PM
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Who here has done at least one cold approach? If so, what was your experience like? If not, what do you imagine the experience is like? Done tons of cold approaches. Usually we have a nice chat. Sometimes I got numbers or dates. A few times I got laid within the hour. Have you ever met with anyone else in the seduction community in real life? If so, what was that experience like? If not, what is your perception of the community and the people in it? I don't consider myself part of the "seduction…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 05:30 PM
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Historically the militia in the late 1700s was organized by every town and included all able bodied males of age 16 or older. Each was expected to provide and maintain his own gear and weapons for the protection of the community against Indian raids, French intrusions, Spanish intrusions, bandits, raiders, rebels, and yes, the British. There was to be regular inspections and drills. It seems heavier artillery was normally kept at the unit level, but it is very vague in the written record. By tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 07:39 PM
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I am saying that defraying the cost of an out of wedlock child by guaranteeing child support being levied increases the occurrence of this kind of behavior dramatically. The mother knowing that she is in essentially no danger of being unable to support her child reduces risk and increases the frequency of bad actors by a high coefficient. In fact, I would say it is most prevalent in populations without a strong drive towards marriage, as that is the other primary disincentive to engage in this k…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 07:33 PM
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Earning potential doesn't matter, she wants a baby. Alpha baby if possible. The knowledge that she can "forget" her pills or manipulate the condom to get pregnant is there. She gets to pursue the father for as much monetary support as possible, which reduces her risk from unwed pregnancy to basically zero, even if he is a low earner. The man can take every precaution and still be held accountable for decisions he either didn't choose or was actively lied to regarding. Example: ex friend of mine …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 06:57 PM
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Yet 2/3rds of women I was in a relationship for more than 30 days confessed rape fantasies unprompted. Half of the remainder who didn't tell me got really into watching simulated non consent porn together (when it was included in a list of options, they'd pick it first or second) and became excessively aroused. The remainder seemed to have zero interest in the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 06:39 PM
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Hey, did you know Newton didn't get his Theory of Gravity totally correct? There were wobbles in the orbit of Mercury that his formulas couldn't predict or explain. Does that make the framework not useful? Did people quit believing in gravity because of it? Nope. It was a useful model applicable in most cases with few errors and issues. Eventually Einstein found the reason why Newton's ideas were "wrong", but Newton was still right in the vast majority of applications or close enough for general…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 06:36 PM
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It is because of systemic problems with black neighborhoods and economics over time. When over enforcement by police results in 1 in 3 adult men of a population going to jail for what are essentially victimless crimes, what is the incentive to avoid crime? You are going to go to prison anyways, might as well go whole hog. Top that with targeted narcotics distribution and economic hardship due to prejudice and you have a self perpetuating cycle of violence, crime, and poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 06:26 PM
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Full auto weapons are only Federally legal if they are "pre ban", meaning produced before 1986 and are registered with the ATF. State laws vary.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 06:22 PM
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Because the entire point of the second amendment is that every adult male should be armed and ready to protect their community from outsiders, whether they be native raiders, British Regulars, Mexican Army, rebels, or literally any other violent group. Remember the environment that spawned the Bill of Rights. They had to stand together with weapons. And if you want to talk about weapons of mass destruction, the British attacked Concord because they found out the militia had gotten their hands on…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 06:18 PM
1

They are shit testing you. TRP talks about women shit testing, which is true. But men do it also. No one wants to deal with a thin skinned pussy. Shit testing amongst men takes 2 forms generally: Funny Aggressive The funny shit tests are ones you should respond in kind. You will know if someone aggressively shit tests you - think a punk standing directly in front of you and refusing to move. Those situations are very different. By laughing it off, you are marking yourself as an outsider. It is a…
/r/askTRP04/10/17 12:36 AM
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You are the FNG that no one's sure if they like or not. Don't whine. Do your work. Give shit back at the same level it is received.
/r/askTRP02/10/17 06:50 PM
1

Hefty sausage, reporting in.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 06:43 PM
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It was like that before then, too. There was a reason the North Vietnamese feared the South Koreans.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 06:08 PM
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Nope, some punish public knowledge of slutty behavior more than others. In Korea, women can be slutty. They just use hotels and keep it away from their families. In America, her dad won't disown her for fucking a new guy from the base every week, so she doesn't waste her time hiding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 05:00 PM
1

Military tank doesn't necessarily equate to alpha-ness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 04:49 PM
1

From my personal experience, women with mental illness destroy others in their need for manipulative control. Men destroy themselves due to their need for release.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 04:47 PM
1

Did you make note of the facial aesthetics involved? I bet that is a large part of the story.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 04:43 PM
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Fear of: Unwilling divorce (female initiated, blindsided) Unknowingly raising another man's child 90
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 04:33 PM
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Oh man, spoken like a guy who has never seen Korean girls around US military members.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 03:48 PM
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Sure it was war - but the intention of the powers was to restore the ancien regime, not annihilate the French people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 03:34 PM
1

Should "right winger" be considered an insult or something to be ashamed of?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 02:23 AM
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The first major conscription (millions) was the Levee En Masse during the French Revolution. They weren't conscripted to prevent annihilation by the other European powers, they were conscripted to prevent the retaking of France to prevent reestablishment of the monarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 02:12 AM
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No, but it is great for sexual success.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 12:46 AM
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Lack of ambition. Lack of assertiveness. Could be timidity. Victim mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 12:44 AM
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I think that is definitely a part of it. Unfortunately for our young men, there is nothing to save them from themselves here. Either they reach for the pill or they are stuck. It isn't like anyone can save them. Have your own children and teach them how to live.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/17 12:39 AM
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I completely agree. I am an extremely active father for my kids and both my wife and other women find it attractive. However, doing so while maintaining my career, fitness, hobbies, and social life is completely exhausting. Without all that, I would be an unfuckable mess. Giving up my career and high status friends to be a stay at home dad would completely destroy both my social and sexual appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 09:32 PM
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How do you make a stay at home dad fuckable without a swollen bank account?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 09:25 PM
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Short answer: They aren't. Long answer: Really, they aren't bad people. Being a single mother is a sign of poor decision making skills at best. I don't feel that a woman who is against abortion (for herself) should be looked down upon for making a single birth control mistake, and responsibly raising her child. My issues are: Single mothers whose children have more than one father. Making one mistake is a mistake. More than once is a habit. Women who intentionally had children when their partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 03:24 PM
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I tell my wife that every marriage that didn't end in divorce ends in at least one death. I hope my marriage ends via death.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 03:17 PM
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Kids do strange chemical things to our brains. We are biologically programmed to think our own children are the best things ever and to feel a sort of ecstasy at their success. Is it real? Does it matter if it is just a chemical trick played on us by our brains? Do we care, or is it enough that it feels real?
/r/TheRedPill26/09/17 02:53 PM
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I would say it doesn't really all that much, not when you take into account all the other enhancements too, make-up is just a drop in the bucket of girl game I am not sure that I agree. Take a look: https://m.imgur.com/gallery/ynkv8 Random side note: neither my wife nor my ex have ever worn makeup more often than major events, like weddings.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 09:31 PM
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I mean, I can kind of understand the angst that is felt by unattractive men that are getting left behind. However, just like with workers that can't find work after the local factory shuts down, the answer is to take a proactive role in changing your situation and working to become attractive. I expect Podunk County out of work factory guy to /gasp move into a city and either find a job or do training for a new career. Similarly, I expect unattractive lower tier men to better themselves to the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 09:22 PM
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No, he is a beta Billy who turns to jello every time he starts dating a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 08:08 PM
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My mommy issues: Massive trust issues, abandonment, lots of abuse She handles her daddy issues by dealing with the fact that he was an abandoning dick without constantly thinking I am on my way out the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 08:07 PM
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Do you recognize your own daddy issues if you have them? When or how did you become aware? No, My dad was ok other than being an enabler for my mother. She is a nightmare and I have tons of mommy issues. Do you notice yourself seeking a partner that addresses them? I am not sure what you mean. I married a woman who is an excellent mother for my kids. Do you think daddy issues have any association with someone being more red pill or blue pill? I think the vast majority of TRP users have daddy iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 08:29 PM
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Yup, close relative had a co-worker die in his arms at work from a machinery accident. He was seriously in a bad place for years afterwards. He is doing much better now, but he still brings it up if we drink enough because I am one of the few people who know.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 06:42 PM
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I know one who is poly and has somehow convinced my best friend that shacking up with a woman who has 9 current partners is a sane idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 06:15 PM
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It came down to the fact that she was unwilling to maintain her own life. She went to work (minimum wage job), came home, and read or watched tv. Grocery shopping? "I hate going to the store." Paying bills? "I'm not good with money." Cleaning her apartment? "The dog will just shed more." Cooking? "I am a vegetarian so it's hard to cook." Fuck that. Mrs. Redd gets shit done. Every day, whether it is comfortable or not. Raising kids is very rewarding, but much of it - especially the early years - …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 06:06 PM
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Well, those emotional problems were causing me to seek validation through cheating on said low n count girl for years. I ended up leaving her because I felt we were fundamentally incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:49 PM
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High school girlfriend moved 1000 miles away by her crazily abusive father. 2 months later my best friend shot himself in the head, and I found his body - heard the gunshot from the next room. The smell still haunts me. Went to the funeral and went to a party afterwards. Started on a 2 week meth binge, and no idea how much booze. No sleep, just more alcohol and uppers. Tried to kill myself at the end. Fortunately I was interrupted by another friend (the one who didn't do drugs). That was pretty …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:58 PM
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Oh, I dumped her because she made me miserable. Married a formerly promiscuous woman about 3 years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:53 PM
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It is probably the same idiot posting under different accounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:45 PM
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Having to deal with the consequences of your actions, assuming that the man isn't wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:44 PM
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Better to err on the side of caution in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:40 PM
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I was underweight for 10 years due to tumors using all my caloric intake. Was over 3000 cal/day and could gain about a pound a month. That kind of intake at 110lbs was exhausting. After the tumors were removed what you say was true and I now can manage my diet like a normal person, but it isn't true 100% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 02:41 PM
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I was an incredibly promiscuous man and absolutely laden with emotional problems. Shit, maybe I still am. Still got trapped in an engagement to a girl who was literally a virgin when we met. I think your theory there has more holes than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 02:24 PM
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The thought definitely crossed my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 02:22 PM
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Considering the comment above that with tons of upvotes was: Try going after straight girls. You'll have more success With 10x as many upvotes, I don't see your point. The other comments would have appeared in almost any thread on reddit in any default sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 09:51 PM
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Wait, you are taking about a comment thread with max of ~5 upvotes per comment about lesbians, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 09:03 PM
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Because TRP tells you why women like men who exercise where everyone else talks about "gains" or "fitness" or "health". A lot of these guys never realized that muscles = sex appeal or that they need to look good to maintain their wife's attraction after they already have a family together (often due to an assumption of loyalty).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:57 PM
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Go high end British accent. From an Indian guy it will have more appeal than your other options and has the automatic associating with class and status.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/17 08:47 PM
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Small changes. Add 1 change a week maximum. 2 if the are interrelated. Give yourself time to adjust to the new routine. Your mind runs out of willpower if you overdo it, and prefers to run "on auto". Use this, don't try to overpower it or else it is like trying to lift too heavy - you will fuck up, backslide, fail, and screw up your progress for some time.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/17 08:45 PM
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Aka "nice" instead of actually helpful.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/17 08:42 PM
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Reynaldo's teeth got fixed in between those pics, but getting your teeth sorted should be up there with dressing appropriately, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:36 PM
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Weird. If I ask a man friend why he is acting like a bitch, They usually tell me straight up or "I don't want to talk about it." With women its either "nothing" followed by getting angry if I don't pry or this fucking game of nonsensical analogies and frustration that I don't know what, "it's like there's clouds over the ocean and I am a fish," means.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:01 PM
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No, it doesn't. It teaches you to set and enforce your own boundaries and not be a manipulation target. Not being a pushover != narcissist. If you had ever lived with one, you would never conflate the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 06:44 PM
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Of course it was poor communication. That is how women 'communicate'. Can't say what they mean or mean what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 06:42 PM
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He was friends with lots of girls. Started dating his neighbor in campus housing his senior year - she was a year younger than him and missed the rating pavement incident.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 06:42 PM
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I looked like a kid until I grew a beard just before age 30. It completely changed my facial aesthetic. Never really had issues with women, but it helped a ton with respect and status amongst men. And yes, I tried to grow a beard in my early 20s. It was... Unsuccessful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 05:33 PM
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You are correct and it is refreshing to see. My wife has changed dramatically over the last ~15 years or so and so have I. We are fortunate that each iteration has meshed well with the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 05:27 PM
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Nope, just a very recognizable guy. Plus literally everyone on campus saw it. It was like 10am on the 2nd day of class.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 05:11 PM
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Mine doesn't even like that. The best answer is to let her ride her rollercoaster and check back in at the end of the ride.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 05:10 PM
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Actually it isn't the opposite - I assumed my wife had actual problems that she needed help with when she got super upset. Turns out she responds best when I just let her deal with her non problems and I don't get involved. Letting my young son or daughter have their emotional fit in time out is neglect? What do you do, try to have milk and cookies with a screaming 3 year old and listen to their problems? Sure, I give them a hug, but when they go into meltdown mode the best answer is to back up,…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 05:09 PM
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I have read that entire page and all its links in the past. While there are a few prominent posters that are misogynists, and lots of newbies deep in the anger phase, I do not feel it is representative of TRP teachings. Learning to accept that women are flawed humans isn't misogyny. Using harsh language to break old programming is a necessity for many of these "men." Most new users are going through a heavy grief period. The anger, sadness, loneliness, and depression are feelings that need to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 03:52 PM
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Are any of those actual hate speech?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 03:33 PM
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Feminine men. They are highly sought after as submissives in gay relationships, but there are very few truly dominant women. A masculine woman is spectacular - it is like having a man you can talk to and fuck her like a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 03:27 PM
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Yes, I had a bunch of fucked up programming from being the scapegoat for my malignant narcissist mother. Now I know that I am not responsible for anyone else's happiness, but it took over a decade to unprogram that issue. I went to therapy for years and years, but only /r/TheRedPill and /r/RaisedByNarcissists really helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 03:26 PM
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A little less than 2 years. Like 20 months or so. We knew each other for about 6 weeks prior to dating - we were co-workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 02:57 PM
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The only guy I knew who was basically untouchable in college was one of my best friends. He was riding his bike right in front of the main hall on campus, and wrecked right in front of everyone - face first on the pavement. Every girl he met for 3 years was like, "weren't you that guy who ate it right in front of the hall?" It worked out after awhile - he moved to Mexico and married a legit beauty queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 02:56 PM
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I have always used direct deposit and budgeted my money. When I was single (back in the 90s), I would take out $100 in cash per week for spending cash and everything else was fully budgeted - yes including my crippling alcohol expenditures. When we were dating for about 6 months, I got super pissed when I found out she got a payday loan. Drove her over there, handed her the cash to pay it off. She did and then we had a talk about responsible money decisions. I guess even at the depths of my prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 02:52 PM
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Married RP man here. Did you manage to improve your romantic life with a help of trp? Yes, tremendously. Are you satisfied with current results? The results keep improving, but so do I. What was the most important change that you had to make in order to achieve results? Geez, there have been a ton. In order from greatest magnitude on down: Quit feeling responsible for my wife's emotional state. The much maligned RP principle of "women are children" taught me that she can be upset and go on her e…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 02:38 PM
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My wife and I have both made more money than the other at various points in our careers. It has never been an issue. We share finances 100%, use budget software, and heavily plan major expenses. We have a very open communication about money, as her parents divorced over her father's financial irresponsibility and my father made some poor financial decisions and lost most of his retirement in the 2003/2008 crashes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 02:27 PM
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For real, college was a pussy buffet. Booty calls, fwbs, girls with boyfriends back home, single girls, it was ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 02:08 PM
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/r/rateme is pretty good
/r/askTRP19/09/17 09:34 PM
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Yeah it is totally immoral to have sex with girls who want to fuck you. Wait, no it isn't. Wtf do 2 make believe comic characters have to do with it? You aren't that cool or important.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 09:21 PM
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I check in a couple times a week, but most of the new content is trash. AskTRP has occasional gems.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 09:19 PM
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Working in STEM field like a sausage party, that is for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 08:04 PM
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I think the author was trying to express that now that women are interacting in the same sphere as men, they begin with a built in advantage that is stifling men's competitive ability, and thus their worry in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 07:15 PM
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Stuck here for a few more years and then I am off to someplace with less hellish weather.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 04:49 PM
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They can, but the majority of bets will be on a winner or ko vs tko, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 04:48 PM
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R/stoicism has a very thorough sidebar.
/r/askTRP19/09/17 04:47 PM
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Texas.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 04:44 PM
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I think you need to read some original Stoic writings. Stoicism isn't about not showing emotion. It is about minimizing the effects of negative emotions - fear, pain, anger, etc. You are still supposed to have a great time at the Dionysus festival or the Great Feast of Jupiter. The stoics still enjoyed raising their children or fucking women. It is a minimization of the negative, a tool to hold frame. Not a way to kill all emotions.
/r/askTRP19/09/17 04:28 PM
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Yes, there is a direct SMV advantage to being a young woman. However, when comparing within the group, a 5 is still a 5. It doesn't change her standing amongst all women. I suppose you could add SMV rating due to age modifiers, but that seems counter intuitive to the rating system. A 23 year old 3 is still a 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 04:21 PM
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Because the point scale is based on a normal distribution, so completely average for a man = 5/10 and completely average for a woman is 5/10. The difference is that young women are highly sought after and so can choose SMV ratings higher than her own until she hits "the wall". This is because a woman from 18-30 is pursued by men from 18-60. She has her choice of the highest SMV men available. Thus, young women have the ability to date "up".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 04:11 PM
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This is unfortunately true, especially at this late stage of the sub. There is a reason so many /r/asktrp posts can be answered with "read the sidebar" or "lift". Those that remain are either new or the ones who don't put any effort into actually learning.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 04:07 PM
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Most people are dumb. Really, really dumb. Most people also lack any kind of will. I refer to those who have realized they are in control of their own destinies as "manifested". I have been looking for people like this for years as new friends. In 5 years I have found less than 10 people that aren't dumb, are in control of their own lives, and that I don't find to be totally grating to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 04:02 PM
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But the kitchens would be divine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 03:51 PM
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Yes, quite a bit. No men I have spoken to believe that I think marriage is a terrible idea because I am happily married. I tell them it is like taking investment advice from a lottery winner, but that doesn't seem to matter. My wife, on the other hand, buys into most of it. She didn't read TRP, but has trouble maintaining relationships with women and agrees about most female nature aspects. Interestingly, we are both bisexual (but monogamous now).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 03:39 PM
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I think that prostitutes are not for me. I don't enjoy the bald faced transaction. Hell, even back when online hookups were a new thing and I tried them a few times (no money exchanged), they made me feel gross. Maybe it is my inner insecurities, but I only enjoy sex when the desire in my partner for me is clear and genuine. Maybe that is why 80% of my partners were people I had known for awhile? It is an interesting question - fundamentally, I don't care about prostitution. If someone wants to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 03:26 PM
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Women trolling a bar are looking for a no complications fuck more often than not. Married men are ideal because they don't have to worry about him not leaving in the morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 09:07 PM
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I don't pursue women, ever, but sometimes I fear that women still see me as creepy merely for existing, and I don't know what I can do about that short of joining a monastery or some other all-male environment Quit caring. Seriously. I am assuming that your aspergers manifests like the other aspies I know. If it is different, let me know. You are bewildered by social games and that the words women say aren't what they mean. The secret is that when it comes to attraction the words don't actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 09:05 PM
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Just in every erotica novel ever written.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 08:58 PM
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Becausethisgoes back to the old definition: a slut is someone who fucks everyone. A botch is someone who fucks but you. By that definition, Incels think all women are bitches and had to come up with their own private dog whistles.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 06:59 PM
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They sure did - and removed this garbage post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 06:49 PM
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Fellow students from more money than him, at least in the situation with the aforementioned asian gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 06:48 PM
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I have a very close family member who is a very militant intersectional feminist and social worker. I would say I have a reasonable grasp on the topic. That said, I feel that anything that attempts to inspect the authoritarian structure of the world under the guise of "patriarchy" is inherently flawed. I believe that the root of oppression comes from wealth and power, and gender/sex have very little to do with it. Historical persecution was so thorough that it mattered little if you were born ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 06:04 PM
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Did anyone else watch the Canelo v GGG fight? Do you think the draw was corruption in order for the casinos to not pay out the bets on the fight?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 05:51 PM
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Maybe you feel the need to examine it. But you don't need to do so here. Make /r/debateanincel and quit shitting up PPD with this useless crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 05:48 PM
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I haven't seen his jaw or maxilla in about a decade since he grew his beard, but I don't recall it being exceptional. His family has money, but not name recognition money. Besides, he is 1 of 9 kids and unlikely to inherit well. And we are talking about a very well to do private university, where the kind of money his family has is middle of the pack at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 05:47 PM
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Legit diagnosis that took about 8 years to finalize. Was told he had OCD, ADHD, etc. All the classic misdiagnoses of autism/aspergers. He doesn't come off as creepy because he just doesn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 03:46 PM
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RP man, I have voted Democrat since 2000. Politics have essentially zero to do with my view of how sex works in humans. That said there are a ton of alt right conspiratards in TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 03:33 PM
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If we totally isolate a group of people, and (rightly or wrongly) assign a collection of negative traits and behaviours to them based on their 'label', then we are all poorer for doing so. They had their chances here and blew it through their own behavior. If an Incel wants to contribute, let them do it they way everyone else does, by debating actual content that belongs here, not their gospel of the untouched.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 02:25 PM
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I could tie my shoes with my hands behind my back assuming the shoes are not on my feet at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 09:15 PM
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Wedding ring man. I go out alone quite a bit for a variety of reasons. I wear my wedding ring most nights. Always get approached by women in bars far more often when wearing it. However, if you change the venue and time to anywhere not club/bar and daytime, lack of ring is more approached. I don't wear my ring after push and pull days (irritates my calluses), and daytime is ridiculous when I have it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 07:54 PM
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They are more useful than horoscopes for one reason: your mbti is determined by you after you have developed and it can change. I can't change my birthdate, so I will always be the same sign. However, I have switched from entp to into and back again as an adult. You determine your own mbti. You don't determine your own horoscope sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 06:46 PM
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Clearly the police force here follows different standards. Fat men as far as the eye can see, in their navy uniforms. I can't believe they look so fast in such a slimming color - they must be enormous looking on regular clothes. Only exception I have seen is bicycle cops, k-9s and other special squads.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 05:55 PM
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Have done therapy. Was doing therapy during my blue pill failure years. Somehow it was TRP that clicked and made me able to live a happy life again. Almost like there is something to it, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 05:27 PM
1

Then get out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 05:24 PM
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Bit different to be an executive/business owner than the dude dumping bins into the truck is my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 05:24 PM
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I have a buddy who is 5'4", slightly built, extreme asperger's, and a spinal injury so he can't lift weights. Oh, and he is pretty ugly. Still slayed in college, including a threesome with his super hot Asian ex and her best friend (confirmed independently to me by both girls). He has slowed down now in his 30s, but not sure if that is due to his current LTR or the fact that he is caring for a disabled family member half his time these days. How? His mission is his academic pursuits. He has a de…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 05:19 PM
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No, but I have a ton of friends who are married/ in LTRs. The amount of times I hear about above average looking husbands having sex less than once every two weeks is astonishing. Even more mind blowing is the "she's mad because I did/didn't do some minor thing and now no sex for me this weekend." I try to explain that it doesn't need to be this way but it falls on deaf ears. I guess none of them realize that with proper mate choice and personal behavior, they too could be living the 7-10+ sexy …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 05:07 PM
1

Have you seen the size of his... Wallet?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 05:01 PM
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Happily married red pill family man reporting in. The issue is the TRP users self select for being unsatisfactory in their love lives. No one goes to read TRP if they are already successful. I am one of the exceptions because I lost a ton of confidence and dominance due to medical issues. My marriage was suffering and neither my wife or I were very happy(I had stopped leading and had physical problems so I couldn't work out and gained 50+ pounds). It lingered for years until I found TRP. It is l…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 04:59 PM
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My wife has very few friends in general and almost no female friends (Less than 5). Other than it being a signifier of her introversion and sometimes inconvenient for my social schedule, no big worries here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 05:00 PM
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It is ignored because the women suffer zero consequences for the unacceptable behavior while men are literally policed for their offenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 04:48 PM
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Not ok, but incidence per 100k is a standard for a reason. 1000/150,000,000 (half of us population is female)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 04:21 PM
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There's a billboard here that says, "A ReMax agent sells a home every 30 seconds!" And all I can think is "that agent must be exhausted!"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 04:19 PM
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No. My definition of crazy was my alcoholic, child abusing high school gf, who went to prison for 20 years for the aforementioned child abuse. My college ex claimed I was crazy because I slept with other women and told her I didn't care if she fucked other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 04:18 PM
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Can you define self esteem in this case? Is seeking male company and approval automatically a sign of low self esteem?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 04:02 PM
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You clearly do have enough free time, judging from the quantity of your responses on this topic (even if the quality of those responses is very low). Put up or shut up, as the saying goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 03:58 PM
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Some people legitimately like music, dancing, drinking, socializing, etc without sexual incentive. I love all of these things, but I am not going to a nightclub to get them if I am not looking for a girl. There are way better places to go if that is your jam.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 09:55 PM
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Selection bias. Those whose marriages improved didn't come back and post about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 07:41 PM
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None of women's domestic and child rearing labor can be used for commodities Of course not. It holds no value to those who don't reside in that domestic environment or have no interest in that particular child. What's next, people should be compensated for raising their own pets?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 06:52 PM
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Correct. This is why high ranking military men, firefighters, police officers, and bartenders have high social status without tons of cash (not that any should be poor in those careers) but a millionaire garbage man will have almost zero status.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 06:29 PM
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Then get ready to spend 30 hours+ a week training and lifting forthe next 10+ years.
/r/askTRP07/09/17 09:37 PM
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Where's the pet reviewed studies on socialism vs capitalism? Democracy vs fascism? Religion vs atheism? Oh wait, that's called history.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 09:27 PM
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That guy trains for UFC as his full time job. McGregor says that his training schedule leaves him no free time - and he has a personal chef for 5-6 meals per day. Assuming they are natty (maybe, maybe not), can you spend 6-9 hours a day on the variety of training necessary to get that body? To get it, you will have to give up everything else. Especially nonclean food. Midsections like that are 99% diet. Hell, I once read that McGregor's cheat meal was a small chicken pizza. That was his luxury w…
/r/askTRP07/09/17 09:11 PM
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Man, I don't get it. 5 kids so far, trying to convince my wife to go for #6 before she turns 40. I love kids. I love raising my kids. Yes, it is hard work and extremely time consuming. Ain't never getting a vasectomy.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/17 08:48 PM
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When a masculine man can say what is on his mind poetically, panties drop. When an unmasculine man does it, it is pathetic. Ain't nothing wrong with poetry if you have your shit in order. What's next, is acting unmasculine? My mom tried to tell me that. My dad laughed and knew what I was doing - banging hot dancers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 08:39 PM
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I didn't gain a single thing from having the shit kicked out of me because I was too scrawny and asthmatic to fight back. You didn't, but I did. I formed a crew. We protected each other. Helped each other. From 11-16 we stuck together and had each other's backs. At 16, I was 5'8" and less than 110lbs. And the bullying stopped. Was it rocky? Sure. Did some of us get beat, especially at the beginning? You bet. But we started a wrestling club in the woods. And pretty soon, when 1 bully would show u…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 08:26 PM
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Things that I found attractive about my wife before I got to know her: She is thin and tall (tall isn't really my thing, but tall and thin is hard to do) Great rack Long legs Round butt Waist:hip ratio Looked like a punk rocker (which is kind of my thing) Real pretty eyes So no, I don't think she found my rack attractive. I don't think we admired the same things about one another (except eyes) until after we knew each other well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 07:53 PM
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Married now for over a decade and happy about it, but thanks.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/17 07:04 PM
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Disagree. This requires a few things: being attractive (obviously) spending time around lots of women you don't know having a high status in the eyes of those women being aware of what a woman's approach looks like (not like a man's... At all!) constant escalation on the part of the man Case study: my former co-worker Age: 34 Height: 5'7" Weight: about 165-175 (he is in pretty good shape. Bicycles every day for at least an hour, does lots of outdoors activities, never saw him lift though) Looks:…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 06:52 PM
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When I was young, my rule was 3 "no's" and I am done. If I attempted to escalate and got a no, back off and start again, escalate harder. 2nd no, same deal. 3rd no, and she needs to leave. Of girls who have any "no's", maybe 50% didn't hit 3. Of the ones that said it 3 times, 9 out of 10 were back same night or next day with all "yes".
/r/TheRedPill05/09/17 05:50 PM
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Mid 30s, 5 kids. Making plans for #6. I love having kids. I mostly enjoy being married. However, my wife is completely devoted to me and I don't have this overwhelming obsession with worrying about her cheating that seems to permeate this sub. All our kids were dna tested after birth. She took my last name. If she cheats, we are done. Kids take a ton of work, but watching them become adults is totally worth it.
/r/askTRP01/09/17 03:53 PM
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At 5'10" 200, I was incredibly fat. You don't look fat, but you may just be carrying it well. ED can come from being overweight or circulation problems. Have a doctor check you out.
/r/askTRP30/08/17 08:24 PM
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Strike while the iron is hot. With girls, fuck while the pussy is wet.
/r/askTRP30/08/17 07:54 PM
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He got divorced from the Kennedy family, too - over an overweight cleaning lady.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/17 07:52 PM
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Similarly also a guy. Had a friend who used to host big weed smoking/heavy drinking parties at her apartment. We were very close friends but I was engaged and she was married to a guy who was in jail (repeat drunk driving). Loved her to death as a friend, but not attracted to her. She throws a big party, I go. We all get trashed. I fell asleep in a big round bowl chair. Wake up to her hand in an iron death grip on my inexplicably hard dick and is trying to shove it into her ass while kissing my …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 06:39 PM
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You know, this is a really good comment. I didn't realize that my relationships tend to grow out of hookups and not dating. Hrm... Hell, I met my wife at work but we hooked up after I quit while I was cheating on someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 06:26 PM
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You know, this is a really good comment. I didn't realize that my relationships tend to grow out of hookups and not dating. Hrm... Hell, I met my wife at work but we hooked up after I quit while I was cheating on someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 06:26 PM
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Start with bw squats but move up to barbell squats when you can (aiming no back issues) and you will see amazing gains in leg shape and stomach muscle presentation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 06:18 PM
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Sounds like you are getting there then! I lost about 50lbs on that type of diet. Put 15 on during my first big bulk earlier this year and am working on getting rid of 10 of it right now. So much chicken and veggies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 06:17 PM
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Dated a dumb girl who tried to hide it under a veneer of "so random". Worst 6 months of my life - and I lived through cancer less than 5 years later. Cancer was better, no question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 06:05 PM
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Dated a dumb girl who tried to hide it under a veneer of "so random". Worst 6 months of my life - and I lived through cancer less than 5 years later. Cancer was better, no question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 06:05 PM
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Great ass doesn't mean skip squats. There do awesome things to your abs and legs too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 06:00 PM
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How is your diet? I can work out 4x a week and get stronger, but look no better if my diet isn't any good.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 05:58 PM
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True, but why would I choose a mate based off of experience? I don't care if she went to Peru, or if she has a PhD. Those things have literally zero to do with having and raising children.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 05:49 PM
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I seriously doubt it. If he isn't aggressive or pushy there is no reason for this to be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 05:39 PM
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That is the point - no standards makes for easily available sex. Having standards makes it much more difficult.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/17 05:37 PM
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Sure, if you are only approaching young women. Expand it to non college aged and watch the results wildly vary.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/17 05:36 PM
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If an ugly, fat guy asks every woman he sees to have sex, I predict a greater than 1% success rate. He just has to ask every woman he sees that is of legal age - fat, old, ugly, etc. Any man can get laid if they straight up ask and have no standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 05:36 PM
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When I first found trp, I was wayyy off on assessing my looks. Compared myself to a friend who looks very much like this guy. Got laughed at by everyone. It is easy to underestimate your own appearance. Doubly so as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 05:28 PM
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The majority of guys get girlfriends by introducing themselves to womenand not acting like a social retard around them. Also, make clear your objectives - indicate sexual interest early and non apologetically.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 05:13 PM
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Look man, I am a pretty damned red pill guy who had an abusive mother and several relationships with insane women. Women aren't the root of your suffering. Abdicating responsibility is. You have all of the power and responsibility to resolve your own problems. No one else. It is both liberating and terrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 05:11 PM
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There is no such thing as a consensual robbery, unless you consider a con man committing robbery, which he doesn't - con men commit fraud. Any robbery based analogy is useless when discussing sexual consent. Fraud might be more apt.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 05:04 PM
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True for males as well, provided they have low/no standards. The quality standards of Incels are amazingly high, and that is the aspect of it that I find most confusing. If you are angry you can't get any of something, why limit yourself to only the best instead of taking what is available?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 05:01 PM
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There was on old story about a fat ugly guy in London who would drive around in a van with a mattress in the back. He would ask every woman he saw, "wanna shag?" He got laid every day. Having no standards makes sex way for anyone.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/17 05:24 PM
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I have an uncle who met his wife in the depths of alcoholism and heroin addiction. They used together for about 10 years, then got sober together. I know one happier couple in my life but that is about it.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/17 04:03 PM
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LPTA: Lowest Price Technically Acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 04:26 PM
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Why should the state be mandating this? You already have access to laws regarding divorce, no one is hiding what the consequences may be. Why do we even need this when prenups are well known and enforced? Because laws change over time and people move to different states. The divorce laws that were in place when I got married are drastically different now and I haven't even moved. If I moved from Texas to California, my marriage contact would be completely different than it is today. That is a pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 03:43 PM
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The fact that no women (other than my wife) have learned to pop the seal with a knife bewilders me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 03:29 PM
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Late 30s , married red piller, 5 kids. having kids is a societal/moral good, provided you believe your culture/society and your self is worth propagating. my kids are supported and raised by their parents, but they are their own people. They just need guidance until they are old enough to make their own decisions. My oldest is a teenager and has an amazing amount of freedom compared to his peers because he displays responsible behavior the vast majority of the time and his previous judgement fai…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 03:23 PM
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Wit is most definitely based on intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 03:17 PM
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My favorite aunt/uncle couple have a 16 year age gap and have been married for over 50 years. He is now over 90 and she still fawns over him. He was never wealthy (coal miner/crane operator) and she was a nurse. However, he was incredibly good looking - still looks good for an old man. Common? Maybe not. It was a family scandal when they got together, but my grandmother told me that was because he was divorced and marrying into a Catholic family moreso than the age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 09:39 PM
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Yes, but women complaining about a lack of men aren't looking to have sex. They want commitment. When I was looking for a wife and mother to my kids, things other than looks mattered heavily. Looks were still the "hook", but the skills, attitude, work ethic, and other factors are why I picked my wife. There are millions of beautiful women out there. There aren't that many beautiful women who would make good mothers and support their husband's goals consistently.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/17 05:17 PM
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I thought I was ugly for most of my life - like a 3-5. Turns out I was a 6 without effort and now that I am lifting and manage my appearance I am a solid 8 (10 to certain gothy/scene girls). Finding girls was never difficult - but they always seemed to be landed in spurts. I would meet a girl, start seeing her, and then cheat with 3-4 more. Then we would break up and I would be single for a month or two, repeat. I have been faithfully married now for well over 10 years. Got fat after some surger…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 02:31 PM
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Couldn't disagree more. I am a bisexual (non practicing since marriage) red pill man. I love - really super duper love - anal sex with women. It turns me on. It isn't that I don't enjoy vaginal sex, I do enjoy it. However, I am a reasonably well endowed guy and anal with a woman is something special and intimate - even more so than vaginal (to me). I have never really enjoyed anal sex with men. Sure, they are all just butts, but it is totally different for me. I like women for what they are. I l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 08:10 PM
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Who is to say she doesn't let him fuck anyone else? I'd bet dollars to donuts she is some kind of super weird submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 06:05 PM
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I agree. TRP has Macron all wrong. He is the elusive Chad with ambition. At 15, he gets his hooks into the hot teacher. At 25 years her junior, you can't tell me he wasn't slaying pussy left and right with younger girls as well (and likely still is). He just found a woman who appreciated his ambition early and she fell for him hard. Any complaints about her having children are absurd - 2 out of the 3 are older than Macron is! It isn't like he is raising them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 06:03 PM
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I am a bisexual rp man. Don't sleep with dudes anymore (marriage and all). I think those who have interfaced with me here would say I am pretty chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 09:11 PM
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10 years. I cut her off 5 years ago, haven't seen or spoken to her since.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/17 01:58 AM
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When successfully making people thin makes more money than making them fat or trying and failing to get thin. Which means never.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 08:57 PM
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I have disagreed in the past and spoken out about certain ECs and have never been banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 08:53 PM
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Climate doesn't dictate weight of the populace. Hot as hell climate in Texas here, 2/3rds of both men and women are very overweight or obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 08:33 PM
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Yup, when I was diagnosed with cancer, my mother ignored me and used it to garner sympathy for herself. I ended up refusing to see her at the hospital, because all she would do was come in, cry, and then yell at my (extremely awesome) nurses. Then she would run off to her girlfriends to play the victim about how hard it is to have a son with a potentially terminal illness. The best part was that I didn't even really talk about my problems to her - I was focused on getting the proper treatments t…
/r/TheRedPill18/05/17 02:20 PM
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The average human has less than 2 legs. Sometimes accurate facts sound weird as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 06:16 PM
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Norway also has a completely different prison system than America, and a completely different prison population.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 06:10 PM
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Newton's gravitational formula was incorrect, but it was close enough until Einstein figured out why. It was still practically useful fora very long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 08:19 PM
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So men watch porn 4 times as much, according to Pornhub. While I don't disagree with your point, that isn't how math works. 24% female means 76% male. That 3x as many men, not 4x.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:24 PM
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So men watch porn 4 times as much, according to Pornhub. While I don't disagree with your point, that isn't how math works. 24% female means 76% male. That 3x as many men, not 4x.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:24 PM
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It is more that women, like children, get very upset over inconsequential things. Men are wired or taught to solve problems. When a child has a problem, we let them resolve it so they learn to do it on their own. When a man has a problem and brings it to you, he is asking for help. Women don't want their problems solved the way men do. Women want to vent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 06:58 PM
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How would one provide proof of that, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 06:51 PM
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My wife just showed up to lunch with me dressed similarly (in black). It was a very pleasant surprise. However, she will admit to objecting herself for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 06:39 PM
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That dude looks like a child making a human face out of flesh colored play-doh.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 08:25 PM
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Go read some of Iain M Banks' sci fi novels for a very interesting take on this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 08:19 PM
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Re: "women are children" I have 1 wife and 3 daughters. I used to have a ton of trouble with my past relationships and my wife when they would get upset. I would worry about them and try to go out of my way to discover the issue and resolve it. Usually it was something dumb and a temporary frustration However, when one of my young daughters gets upset about something inconsequential, I listen and then let her handle her own problems. "Women are children" helped me move past my (insane) mother's …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 08:14 PM
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Then why is one of the key lessons, "own your shit"? That by definition forces the fault upon yourself. Sure my mom fucked me up real good. It is still my fault that I didn't cut her out of my life earlier and get past all that baggage when I was young.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 08:00 PM
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What do you feel makes you a 3? Weight? Aesthetics? I am curious how you arrived at that number. I do believe you, but I find assessments of male attractiveness very interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 07:25 PM
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Babies love my beard...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 07:02 PM
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Or because feminism isn't about true equality. I have some super hardcore feminist relatives (we get along great, actually) and I can promise you that what they preach has about as much to do with equality as trickle down economics. If feminism were egalitarianism, there would be no need for the word "feminist".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 09:08 PM
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How many men do you think aren't having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 08:58 PM
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In my mind, most American women believe in gender equality, that's why I said "women." Only 20-25% of American women self identify as feminists. 80%+ believe in equality, but notice that ~60% of women don't associate feminism with equality... Why is that do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 08:49 PM
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Poorly understanding some forms of domestic violence due to feminists aggressively pushing their views over actual data.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 08:45 PM
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The fact that it only applies to skinny women has nothing to do with it. 95%+ of humans can be thin with 1-2 years of concerted effort, if that. If a woman is thin, her race rarely matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 08:43 PM
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I know first hand that she tried to pick up younger male employees, because I was a target of hers for the first couple of years I worked there. I don't know if she succeeded with anyone. She was a very attractive woman for her age (looked like a slightly older version of my wife actually), but I do not shit where I eat. Even when I realize that an executive has her toes in my crotch under the table during a staff meeting. Edit: I realized what I am trying to say is that COO did her job well and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 06:52 PM
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I am bisexual. At least, I was a practicing bisexual in my youth. I strongly prefer women and have been married for ages. In my opinion, it is far higher than 10% of men, but far less than half. Somewhere around 25-33% in my opinion. That said, my first homosexual encounter was while extremely inebriated. However, I had a drinking problem at the time and that applied to basically everything I did in my late teens and early twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 06:37 PM
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I agree that high ranking and successful women tend to wear feminine clothes. My old COO was in her mid 40s and dressed in either skirt suits or dresses everyday (except for her skin tight police woman uniform for Halloween). No one ever questioned her professionalism in spite of her using her position to attempt to attract younger men. Compare to the previous CEO's EA, who also dressed very similarly. Everyone knew she was a joke because she would get in others' business to score points with he…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 06:32 PM
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As a parent and married man who gets called "daddy" a fair bit, for us it isn't super sexual, it is just or nicknames. We have several small children and so we call each other "mommy" and "daddy" in front of the kids and it often bleeds over to our sex life. That said, we do practice reasonably intense BDSM, and I prefer "sir", but I call her "girl" often in that scenario and she will often use "daddy" then also. I already answer to it so I don't mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 02:48 PM
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I had a neighbor who had married an Arab so he could get his green card. She lived with two huge black Chads and never saw her husband after they were done with INS (this was 20 years ago). He paid for her apartment and stuff but it was far from luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 07:48 PM
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Agreed. The numbers I am finding indicate that 3% of adult males in the US are virgins. Not sexually active for a year or more is about 15%. That only indicates any sex at all of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 07:43 PM
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There is no such thing as "cucking" a wife. Untrue, Google "cuckquean" and "cuckcake".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 07:11 PM
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I have commented before that I require devotion from my wife. Taking my name is part of that. Refusing to do so displays a lack of commitment to me and our future children. The only time that I would consider not requiring it is if her last name was a huge boost to our kids' lives - i.e. her being a Rockefeller or something of that nature. All of my children have my last name.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 07:27 PM
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Then why say... You have to become taller, stronger, more confident, richer, blah blah blah to get a date. ? If you're doing it for yourself, you don't need to do it to get a date. You're already doing those things for their inherent benefits. If your'e already doing it, why complain that you need to?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 08:22 PM
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I don't consider myself typical of anything, to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 08:21 PM
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What you said was, "A liberal, anti-Trump guy will get one whiff of red pill and say "fuck all that noise" and you will never hear from him again." I am that guy, and I didn't say that, and they hear from me reasonably regularly. So you are wrong. I'm not a "guys who already think like you do to your little echo chamber." What you really mean is "I generalize about TRPs, but get mad when they do it about women."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 07:18 PM
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Yup, I am a huge fan of the ACA (obamacare), but think it should be taken further by moving to full socialized health care. I want my daughters to have equal rights and opportunities to my sons. The real equality this country needs isn't about gender, creed, or color though, it's about wealth and class.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 07:17 PM
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Then why complain about doing things to get girls? Clearly those things are done for reasons other than attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 07:15 PM
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A liberal, anti-Trump guy will get one whiff of red pill and say "fuck all that noise" and you will never hear from him again. Sure, which is why I'm an anti-Trump, anti-Neocon, pro-equality Married Red Piller, right? Hell, I voted for Obama twice, and I'm voting for Clinton this year.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 04:59 PM
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I don't know that it is. I haven't seen any evidence to show that there is a high correlation outside of anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 04:53 PM
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Because a private message board asking for things to stay on topic is the equivalent of an oppressive governmental regime stifling dissent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 04:51 PM
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who are struggling and are genuinely trying to seek answers also come to PPD, those incels don't come here to bitch, they come to debate, why should they be lumped in with the "normie" incels? Show me PPD posts where Incels were actually seeking answers instead of wanting pity or to simply express anger, and then didn't shit all over anyone attempting to provide real answers, and you'll have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 04:45 PM
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My mother was very clear with my sister that she had to be pretty. It wasn't in reference to men, just life, but that was the expectation. Unfortunately for my sister, she looks a lot like my mother, so she had a hard time of that. Mothers often tell their sons that, "The right girl will come along" or "Get a great job and you'll find the one" or "You're perfect just the way you are" instead of "Quit being fat" or "Get a real haircut". I did get the "Quit dressing like a slob" but my sloppiness …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 04:42 PM
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I was really referring to non Christian religions. Christianity is a mess with zero internal consistency due to the influence of Paul of Tarsus. Judaism is quite internally consistent, and they have spent thousands of years refining and debating to make it even more so (Talmud, etc). Eastern religions tend to be as well. I haven't spent enough time studying Islam to have an opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 04:12 PM
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MRPer here, I read it for the weekly reality check. Kind of like watching Fox News a few times a month just so I know: What people who hold the opposite position to me think/feel/discuss Try to find any validity in their arguments Adjust my philosophy/behavior if I find anything worth applying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 04:07 PM
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I disagree. In my opinion, intellectual honesty is highly related to internal consistency, and there are religious groups that are quite internally consistent (meaning, given A, then B, C, and D logically follow). I don't have any faith, but that doesn't mean that all religions are intellectually dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 03:48 PM
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It's about assertiveness. If someone wants a relationship and doesn't proactively try to get one through honest and assertive means, they're seen as dishonest. Moreover, they're shielding themselves from rejection. They want the good without risking the bad, which is entitlement. If someone wants to have sex and makes it clear, they're being assertive and honest, plus they're making themselves slightly vulnerable by exposing themselves to rejection. That is viewed in a more positive light, and f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 03:35 PM
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My ex literally tried to "cook"/eat Campbell's condensed soup without adding water. Called me while throwing up to complain that I didn't come over to cook for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 03:33 PM
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You have to become taller, stronger, more confident, richer, blah blah blah to get a date. How are you getting taller, bro? Beyond that, I become stronger, richer, and more confident for myself. If you're doing it only for girls, you're doing it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 03:04 PM
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The problem is, eventually there will be enough of them to outvote the rest of us and that's when shit will REALLY turn bad..... I don't know, man. I only know 1 SJW with more than 1 kid and less than a handful with any. Those of us with loads of kids work our asses off and teach our children that philosophy.
/r/askTRP06/10/16 06:32 PM
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I'm not and never have been Jewish, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 01:04 PM
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I was working full time and all my psychiatrists were not part of my insurance plans. That granted me the freedom (at significant but not overwhelming cost) to choose anyone that I wanted. I had to cut back on my marijuana budget to pay for my mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 09:21 PM
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Persisting in the face of rejection requires dedication and discipline, just like lifting in the face of heavy iron. That's what it teaches you, why it's valuable, and why it's TRP 101. Lifting is hard, it hurts, and it sucks. You do it anyways to see the improvements you desire. Approaching in the face of rejection is hard, hurts, and sucks. You do it anyways to see the improvements you desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 09:07 PM
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Or an effective tool. The issue with claiming things as placebos is that it is a non-provable claim. The methods taught as CBT have helped me and others tremendously. It's been shown to work in empirical testing. You don't have to believe me, I have nothing to prove to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 09:03 PM
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Think as you like. Weightlifting works. Practice works. Practicing picking up girls works. Practice is not fun, and it's hard work, and it sucks. Guitar makes my fingers bleed. My cousin's husband is incredibly autistic and he managed to make himself a semi-sociable person, excellent father, and a hugely successful career in statistical analysis. Granted, he married a feminist who got fat after she had his daughter, but Captain Super Autist managed to pull it off. I was there when he was spazzin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 08:50 PM
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Someone doesn't have to apply to every job in America to call themselves unemployed. Actually to be considered "unemployed" by statistics in America, you must be actively seeking work. Someone doesn't have to be trying to make friends to call themselves lonely. Perhaps, but if they want to say they are involuntarily lonely, then they need to make a good faith effort. It's like saying people have no right to call themselves poor if they don't go looking for jobs. Again, involuntarily poor is a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 08:45 PM
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Asa Akira is also a feminist, so I'd go with Emma, because I outgrew my attraction to asian girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 08:40 PM
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You mean like I felt when I had PTSD? Yeah, I still went and fought my way through it day after day after day. I once locked myself into my apartment for 6 months, quit my job, and refused to leave. I was stuck in a paranoid delusional state. Going out was physically painful. And yet, I managed to push through. And my life became better for it. Struggle defines us. Struggle makes a man out of a boy. Pain lets you know you're still alive. The only time I will stop pushing is when I am dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 08:33 PM
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You can think it's a placebo all you like. I talked at length with the best friends I ever had, and none of them helped me get past the fear and depression relating to being abused, the victim of a violent armed robbery, or pediatric cancer. CBT did. If it wasn't CBT, it was those 2 psychiatrists, but I'm pretty sure it was the CBT, as I've used it for other things since with the same results. My psychiatrists weren't authorities to me. They were people with a valuable skillset that were willing…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 08:30 PM
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It was honed over 30 years of dealing with my internal demons, so I hope that it helps others without them having to go through the mistakes that I made.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 08:13 PM
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Personally, I think things are a dry spell until you believe you can't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 08:12 PM
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Apparently so. Carry on, good sir!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 08:11 PM
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The same way that everyone on TRP does. GO FUCKING DO IT. Shut up, own your shit, and lift. Lifting increases testosterone. It teaches you that everything in life is incremental improvements. It teaches you that there is no shortcut to greatness. Quit thinking, quit talking, get off the sofa, turn off the tv, and pick up something heavy until you're exhausted. Eat well, then sleep. Then do it again. Keep doing it until you've learned your lesson, and then you'll never want to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 08:08 PM
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for guys who have a hard time dealing with rejection, where each one feels like a sharp stab in the gut, it becomes almost like torture to "keep trying" when it only induces more pain. You mean like the pain I feel when weightlifting? Because I keep doing that since the results are fucking great. What's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 08:00 PM
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I've had great success in treating PTSD with Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. I was taught how by 2 therapists (actually psychiatrists if you want to be technical) and it has become one of the most powerful tools I have ever had in my life. Sometimes you have to sacrifice yourself to save yourself. That said, choosing a therapist is a very tricky subject. I had 2 that really helped me. I've had 4 that were awful and detrimental. I recommend the following: Interview them by phone prior to making an …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 07:58 PM
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The difference is that any sex counts against inceldom, whereas to be not poor, you have to get paid more than a minimum amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 07:54 PM
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You're overweight and/or don't work out. = GYM costs money. Breaking bad diet habit costs money and time and effort. Because people prior to the modern era were all fat due to never going to the gym, right? Oh wait, they went outside and DID THINGS to get strong. Grooming and clothes cost money. so does fashion advice and fashion experience Fashion blogs are free. Trying clothes on at the store is also free. I just bought 6 great looking t-shirts from Macy's for literally $8 each when they were …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 07:48 PM
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MRPer here. I'll cover 4 different women that I've been with and why each one fit into my life the way they did (and why I liked them!). For context, I was quite successful with women in my youth, apparently a kind of nerdy minor Alpha. I'm an 8/10 white man, 5'10", and on the thinner side of things. The casual girl/ONS The casual girl needs only 2 features: Look good, and fuck well. When you're not looking for anything serious, and you can land lots of girls, the hotter and more enthusiastic, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 07:23 PM
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I'm really into musicals (worked and acted in the theatre for many years). I love to sing and dance along at home. I feel like this guy singing in the bathroom when I do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 01:00 PM
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Most guys are already getting wrinkles and gray hairs before 30. TIL I am far more fortunate than 'Most guys' - men in my family don't grey before 50, and so long as we avoid smoking, wrinkles hit in our late 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 12:29 PM
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Shellfish. Pig meat. Fish without scales. Much of the items were related to differentiating Yahweh's followers from the other tribes. There's theories that the anti homosexuality was a prohibition on using temple prostitutes. There's some who believe the "kid goat in its mother's milk" was also a religious ritual for a different god. The ban on marring the edges of your beard - people would have special hair and beard styles to show devotion to other gods. I have yet to figure out the bit about …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 08:31 PM
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Male atheist. Recovered Catholic. I'm still into big families, lots of kids, stable relationships. My upbringing resulted in me being bigoted against Southern Baptists, because they were huge assholes to me and every Catholic in my town. I love Jews, Cubans, and foreigners because they were always awesome to us. I think the Bible contains a lot of old health and behavioral codes for living in the middle east when it was fertile. Not a ton of applicability with modern food treatments and steriliz…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 07:10 PM
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In Trump's case, I believe you are 100% correct. He was unable to back down from any perceived insult to his own detriment.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/16 06:41 PM
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I found that Trump would reference "I could give you a whole list right now" but would focus in on one particular (often incorrect in details) case study. Instead, he should have been discussing trends, which are more applicable in a broad based discussion like a presidential debate.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/16 06:40 PM
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He might, but I'm pretty sure his inability to ignore jabs is too deeply ingrained to overcome before the next debate and Clinton has his number.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/16 06:37 PM
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If you read through my history, I was never a beta guy who couldn't get laid. I was a nerdy guy who landed all the girls, got married, got cancer, fucked off for 7 years and became beta in my late 20s/30s. TRP got me back on my feet and back to my normal self. No I'm not super huge and muscular. I'm 5'10" 155lbs, almost the same size as Conor McGregor (not as built, but working on it). I do have a certain panache and charisma, and I'm probably an 8/10 facially (average rating according to r/rate…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 06:33 PM
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Agreed. I remember taking specific steps to ensure I had no plan Bs in my life (leaving the backdoor open when you're taking on a big commitment is a way to drive yourself absolutely mad, I've learned). This is 100% true. I kept lots of backdoors open (hahaha terrible pun) while I was with my ex, and it really kept me from bonding with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 01:24 PM
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I have had sex with 3 women in less than 16 hours before - woke up to a girl I was seeing in my bed, #2 came over later that morning, and my actual girlfriend came over that evening. Granted, I was like 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 01:03 PM
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Thanks for the link! Look at what did work, from the bottom of said article: When we looked at our weight loss patients who had lost weight and kept it off we noticed several important factors: (1) They cooked. While over 85% of patients did not cook before (defined as cooking the majority of their meals) – those who were successful found success in the kitchen. Some had “cooked” before, several were even trained as a chefs but had gone into other work. (2) Their tastes changed. When drilling do…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 10:12 PM
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It isn't easy. It's hard as hell. Risk management is key, but when you go all in, you can't hold back. I vetted and checked and talked to her family. We were together for 2 full years before I proposed to her. There were still doubts, but, like in poker - when that perfect hand comes along, you bet and you bet BIG. If you win, you take the house. It's not for the faint of heart. But the payoff is there if you can stomach the risk and your hand really is as good as it looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 09:55 PM
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Trump didn't prepare. He took "boundless confidence" too far, and didn't do the work. He's paying for it in the public perception of him right now.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/16 09:44 PM
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Excellent list! Can I ask what the difference between "good persistence" and "pushy/can't take no for an answer" would be? Because if every man gives up the first sign of trouble, no one would ever be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 09:15 PM
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I'm not seeing the study in any of the comments you made. Can you link it, please?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 09:13 PM
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Did you really expect the subject of birtherism to not be levied by the moderator? Especially given that Trump was the primary propagator of that movement?
/r/TheRedPill27/09/16 08:56 PM
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As a subculture kind of guy, I have no idea who you are referring to. The goth and metal clubs I attended had a ton of regulars, and while there were lots of people who weren't 'committed' to a scene, they tended to just be busier or less passionate about the subculture than the inner core group, not party animal tourists.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 08:29 PM
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I dunno man, Natalie Portman looks better to me in that 33 year old photo than when she was 21. I think she really hit her stride at 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 08:26 PM
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A 10 is "perfect" and I think that "perfect" at 30 is still a 10, wrinkles included. Maybe I'm biased since I'm in my late 30s. I know how hard it is to keep up appearance past 29. But to me, your definition is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 08:00 PM
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Thank you for this, that was a super thorough post and exactly the kind of data I'm interested in. I won't try to help you then, but I do wish you good luck in your search, sir!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 07:58 PM
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Your standards are insane, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 07:48 PM
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Women claim they need these requirements of kindness and generosity to be sexually attracted to a man. This is the fallacy here. You only talk to women online, don't you? I've never heard a woman tell me this. They'll say they want my attention. They'll say they want to be my 'priority'. But I'm not a kind man, or a generous one, and no one has ever asked me to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 07:46 PM
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I require devotion from my wife, which she happily provides. In turn, I turn my efforts and attention to her and our family. This isn't 75/40 or 60/60. This is 100/100. Our life is OUR life. Our family unit is the unifying goal. Yes, we've had problems. We've almost gotten divorced once and were on that path again another time. But we know that each other is completely committed to our relationship and to each other. How? We talk about it. We show it. We live it. When I was in the hospital, she …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 07:42 PM
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I dunno, that 33 year old Natalie Portman in /u/highog's post gives me the jitters in a good way. Easy 10 in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 07:24 PM
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I was friends with lots of jews as a kid, so I knew all about it. Now Sephardic jews I didn't hear of until I met one late in high school (who was gorgeous).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 07:19 PM
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That sucks, dude. I could pick your brain for a few hours, but I don't know if you want to spend the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 07:17 PM
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Online and irl. Drop the online, it is basically never worth your time. How's your social life? I find that men who have few friends (male or female) tend to have the hardest time with women. In addition, if you're feeling insecure and unhappy about pursuing women, maybe you should stop? I had quit looking when I met my wife. Just do you, man. Women like men who are into their own interests and passions, assuming that those happen to interact with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 06:48 PM
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She lacks ambition, so I don't believe so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 05:42 PM
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I am saying she doesn't get that way sitting on her ass. Of course she has better genetics than most. But even great genetics don't make it effortless. I don't look like Hulk Hogan in his prime, or a male model, but I'm not bitching that I can't meet those appearance standards. I work out as much as I want, and I'm reasonably happy with my results. I always want to look better than I do, but it's not something I think about in a negative way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 05:41 PM
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Trump was interrupting way more, so this stands to reason. Hard to get bitched at for interrupting when you're standing there looking smug as fuck.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/16 04:35 PM
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I stress out super hard about twice a year on average, and it lasts 2-5 days of intense, bowel-shaking anger and worry. My wife stresses out 5+ days a week over every day things, and then has sobbing "stressed out" sessions every month or two that last about 1 day with 5 or so hours being incredibly intense. Similar, but different manifestations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 04:29 PM
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It was a fantastic year or so until she left for college. Then it was an awesome year or so while she was at college and would call me a few times a month to come see her. We lost touch after that when I got into a regular relationship and fucking my old FWB wouldn't go over with the new girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 04:15 PM
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Because dancing is not amazing strength and cardio training? If she's practicing every day doing freestyle dance, that shit is way more work than lifting for an hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 04:10 PM
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Constant cravings solution: Eat only protein and vegetables. Drink only water. No carbs, no sugars. Your cravings will vanish. Metabolism that slows as you lose weight: GOOD! That's what is supposed to happen. You don't need more energy when you're 30 lbs lighter!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 04:07 PM
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My cancer prevented me from gaining weight past 140lbs as a 5'10" male for 10+ years. Maintenance was around 120. Even hitting 140 took massive lifting and eating of 4000+ calories a day. Once the tumors were removed, I gained up to 165 in a less than a year, with stretch marks on my thighs for my effort. So there are exceptions where it is super difficult to gain/lose weight, but they're rare and medical.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 04:03 PM
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but still told that a girl didn't like him because of his height whatever. ONE WOMAN REJECTED ME! Dude, there's billions of women. Go find one that isn't a bitch. For real, I racked up dozens of girls in my youth, but was rejected 5x as often. It's a numbers game - sometimes they're not available. Sometimes your SMV isn't high enough. Sometimes they're just a bitch about whatever your feature they don't like is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 03:57 PM
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I was in an open/poly relationship back in the late 90s as a young man. I did it because I didn't give a fuck. I was new in town, we started dating, realized that the sex was good, but we weren't fully compatible long term. So we turned it into "FWBs but I'll help you and you'll help me." Laying girls was never easier than a hot tall leggy blonde girl bragging about my dick to them. She liked having me around because I was funny and we did awesome activities (non sexual) and she liked my body. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 03:50 PM
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I had double flats once when there was something laying across an off ramp and I hit it. Literally the only time I have ever heard of it happening other than, "I was doing something dumb and..."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 03:46 PM
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Even if you are getting divorced due to completely disagreeing with their parenting methods? Because you think they're abusive? Because a judge ordered split custody even though they are an addict?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 03:35 PM
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I think you greatly underestimate the amount that resentment factors into nonpayment of child support issues. Yes, there's a ton of guys who get stuck with unrealistic payments and then can't keep up or lose their jobs. Maybe it's not 90%, but I'd bet it's well over half.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 10:04 PM
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Was out with my friends this weekend and met a woman who has been married for just over a year, short, cute little thing, very religious. I was invited to this shindig by a mutual friend, and she spent the entire time flirting with me. When I wasn't around, she spent the time asking my friends about me (where'd they meet me, what do I do for a living, am I married, etc). I would have had no idea she was married except for the ring.
/r/TheRedPill26/09/16 09:27 PM
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Because jail and wage garnishment are PUNISHMENTS, not incentives. Knowing that your abusive ex isn't using your money for cocaine instead of for your kids is an incentive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 09:07 PM
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I'm saying that the payer (of either gender) would be more likely to comply without issue if the ex-partner was not full custodian of the money (such as the recipient of child support had to present receipts to a mediator on a monthly/quarterly/annual basis for a certain percentage of the child support or something).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 09:00 PM
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The 90% isn't what is or isn't going to the child. It's my estimation on how many enforcement troubles would vanish if the money wasn't going into the ex-spouse/partner's pockets before the kids could benefit from it. Think about it - you dislike your ex-partner enough to destroy your family unit OR they feel that way about you! Does anyone want to hand that person 25-30% of their income for the next 10-16 years? It'd make me feel awful, I don't know about you. Doubly so when you have to hear ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 08:56 PM
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Not in my state.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 08:56 PM
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Yes, and one of them is still primary custodial parent, and therefore due to receive child support. Even in the incredibly rare cases of both parents being joint custodial, child support is still routinely awarded. Guess who wins that? Guess who still has no control over how that money is spent, now that they are paying child support AND all expenses during the stays at their home (50% of the time)? The money MUST go to the other ex-partner, that's part of the child support laws. Why not just ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 08:51 PM
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Because the money has to go to their ex-partner, and not the kid. If there was some kind of blind trust that people could put money into that their ex would never be able to touch, child support enforcement would drop by 90%, I think. The issue, of course, is how does a baby pay for their own food and clothes and portion of the rent/mortgage?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 08:48 PM
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I am, apparently. Don't worry about yourself. Your prospects don't matter, you're being an altruist. Have fun and make friends with everyone. This allows you entrance into every social grouping. Stay with your selected target throughout the night. If the goal is to split the group for your buddies, you have to commit to it. I'm not saying you have to coyote chew your arm off in the morning, but you do need to keep it going until your buddies have left the venue. u/buartha said to take them for f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 08:42 PM
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Really? I feel like if you're a man with no kids at 40 it's nbd Maybe in your family. In mine, if you're a man over 19 without a serious contender for a wife in your life, you are interrogated and grilled at every opportunity. Children are not expected until post-marriage, so it's marriage that drives it. If you don't have your eyes on a marriage candidate, you're not 'being a man' or the rumors swirl that you are gay (which outside of urban areas here in Texas is still widely considered a bad t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 08:37 PM
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This is Outcome Independence/Confidence at work. You're already getting laid, so you're not as nervous around other women - they can't smell the thirst on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 08:24 PM
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I concur that some men are easy to spot and some aren't - even when the abuse is physical. Case Study #1: My brother. Oh, my darling brother, the golden child of the clan. 6'4", 220 lbs, ripped, blond hair, blue eyes, poster boy for the SS. Alcoholic deadbeat. Aggressive, bar fights, drugs, manual labor job, military discharge after 6 months due to mental and emotional instability. Known for violent beatings of men and women, including his wives. If you don't see this one coming, honey, you're b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 08:19 PM
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How does a sociopath NOT get laid? They're the epitome of dark and manipulative, using others for their own gain. Using unsuspecting women for sex fits right into the profile. I've talked about him before - pure predator. Acts as a sponsor at AA & NA groups, befriends troubled women, sleeps with them, abuses them, and then rejects them for being "dirty addict whores".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 08:10 PM
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I think a significant portion of men fail at being successful - moreso than women do. I also feel like your standards for 'successful' women are completely out of touch with reality: I've never met anyone who considers women MUST have a career, pay her own bills, or be skinny to be a 'success' at being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 08:09 PM
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And yet, there is still a massive quantity of them that fail. Are they just bad people, or is your female privilege overriding your ability to see that perhaps men's path to success is more difficult than you currently believe it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 02:21 PM
1

So you're saying that hot girls who fuck lots of dudes are a detriment to society and incels like you should be forced to fuck fatties for the benefit of the nation?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 02:17 PM
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I did once. Was an ex-girlfriend who showed back up in my life unexpectedly. Condoms with everyone else except for LTRs. No pregnancy result. It was slightly unexpected (hence the lack of preparation) but very consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 02:06 PM
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I had the distinct displeasure of working with a 5'4" sociopath who slammed more women than everyone else in the sales department combined. He was an unethical monster, but very, very good with landing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 01:52 PM
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Yup, in Texas it's all short Hispanic men with multiple hot baby mamas. Then you've got your taller white men who do just fine if they have social skills. Interestingly, I know multiple incels that are incredibly tall hispanic men - over 6'2". They just have absolutely zero social skills or confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 01:50 PM
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When I say "successful" I don't mean "gets pussy". Unless you think women's perception of men is the way to gauge success? When I say "successful" about men, I don't mean "get pussy" either. I mean "successful" in the sense of a complete, well adjusted person with their life in order in some way - career, social life, not an emotional trainwreck, assertive or at least not submissive, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 01:02 PM
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We've talked about my facial aesthetics previously - I'm an awkward, big nosed, jewish looking dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 01:01 PM
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I racked up over 25 in less than 5 years of not even really trying while also being in a relationship. 200 in 18 years is totally doable by a man with social skills and decent facial aesthetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 08:57 PM
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You should come play Magic: The Gathering with me tomorrow. I'll show you just how successful even you will perceive men who have done nothing to be. It'll be fun! For reference: http://imgur.com/a/SjcgE That's the bottom 20%'s behinds he's crouching behind. This is also where you meet incels IRL, and why I have no sympathy for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 08:52 PM
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I'm might be an outlier, but by enacting MRP principles I improved my marriage drastically. It may have saved it, it's hard to say how close to the edge we were.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 08:37 PM
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... our culture is fucking dying American culture just cycles and adds a few new bits and bobs each cycle. I do kind of wish the beard trend would go away so I would be the only one with one as cool as mine...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 08:06 PM
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When I was a kid (pre-internet), and I read Daredevil, the only person I had to talk to about it with was my brother. D&D hysteria was at an all time high. Comic book shops were arcane, mysterious places run by smelly cheeto stained men where girls dared not tread. When I was 11, I got an internet pen pal at school (early version of email). When I was 13, we got Compu$erve. Suddenly, there were thousands of people that I could talk to about Daredevil and Spawn and the Youngbloods and Captain Ame…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 07:55 PM
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Shunning of ex-members by a religious group is about the least oppressive way they can show disapproval of an action. There's nothing wrong with having boundaries - and they're not impinging upon the rights of said ex-members in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 07:49 PM
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I support stay at home mothers. I do not respect housewives that have no children unless they have something going on like lots of charity work or some big unpaid project. Really? What the fuck are you doing with yourself? I met a woman at a bar a few months back who asked me what I did. After we went through that, I reciprocated. "I'm a stay at home mom" she says. Great! "How many kids?" ... "2 fur babies" <shows picture of yorkshire terriers> WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 07:44 PM
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Nerd culture is a big deal nowadays because the internet started in earnest about 20 years ago, and now all of us that grew up reading comic books about superheroes, watching anime (THUNDERCATS HO!), etc are now of prime spending age (late 20s-early 40s). Nerds were super common in this era because the 'nerd' topics were the quality entertainment of the day. The internet gave us all a way to find one another and create those subcultures in what were once independent pursuits. People sell what ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 07:42 PM
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Out of curiosity, you don't think the fact that 1 of your children's mothering is split between 2 women (your current partner, when said child is with you and your former partner the rest of the time) is a meaningful difference? It was very briefly when the child was 5-8 years old. Now that they're older, not at all in our family. Others are certainly different.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 08:40 PM
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So, going to college and getting a career means you deserve to be disowned by your family? Seems pretty oppressive to me. So I'm oppressed because my incredibly Catholic family tried to force me into traditional male gender roles? Because they disowned me for becoming an atheist? Orthodox Jewish women choose to stay Orthodox Jewish women. Just like I chose to not be Catholic. Just like my brother chose to stay Catholic. The Orthodox Jews in the US aren't killing their daughters who leave the fol…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 08:34 PM
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It does, though. Because there are additional people involved. The social unit is no longer just the couple and their children. It's the couple and their children and their new spouses. It's a different kind of social unit. Literally the only difference is that sometimes 1 child is gone from home for 2-3 days at a time (with a summer and/or Christmas vacation absence each year), and that I need to plan my career so I don't physically move out of state for a few years. I'd hardly say that impacts…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 08:25 PM
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I disagree. I don't think having multiple sets of parents is the same as being a part of a nuclear family unit. I have a stepchild, and it doesn't interfere with our nuclear family dynamic at all, and we do experience the hated stepmother and the multiple holidays, etc. It doesn't make my family any less nuclear. Literally the only issue it brings up is the emotional baggage when my wife fights with her ex and/or the money we spend on legal fees/mediation. Or people who get remarried have a bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 08:06 PM
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The same can be said of modern non-Denominational Christianity - they have no 'official' stance or spokespeople, and they are nearly universally hated by non-group members.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 07:56 PM
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Fuck it. TO THE MOON, GENTLEMEN!
/r/TheRedPill22/09/16 07:52 PM
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Agreed, but when a Buddhist that you've described stands on a street corner and drowns out the actual Buddhists, how is anyone to know the difference? Especially since very few of us are going to go read Tripitaka (I've read the Tao te Ching, but I haven't made it to Buddhism yet). Everyone has only so many hours a day for research.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 07:46 PM
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True, but the majority of divorcees remarry (both men and women), thus cementing the nuclear family dynamic. Plus there's this: About 7 percent of remarried adults are living in poverty, compared with 19 percent of divorced adults. Marriage, like it or not, is one of the primary paths of escaping poverty in the US for both men and women. Men are perceived as more stable for employers, and women gain access to the man's earnings.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 07:44 PM
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Can you clarify what you mean? I hate that Shania Twain song and I am really curious about how good this burn is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 07:34 PM
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Because white women do make up the most significant % of single mothers. White people in the US make up the most significant percentage of EVERYTHING, because the US is 2/3 white. So the fact that only 30% of single mothers are white is whites overperforming/minorities underperforming. However, poor white women make up the hugely vast majority of white single mothers because SES is the primary determinant of single motherhood. Most white women who do have children do so within a nuclear family m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 07:30 PM
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I believe the comment you're replying to meant, "the average male has no interest in preventing women from getting an education, so long as they have an equal shot at said education as a man, and not a non-merit based advantage due to their gender". This is implied because things like Medical schools have been rejecting qualified men and admitting less qualified people in order to meet their diversity goals/Affirmative Action quotas.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/16 07:24 PM
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I hate to nitpick, because this is a really good comment, but in America, Indians are rarely considered Asian - they're considered a separate ethnic group entirely, and often people have no idea what to make of Bengalis or Pakistanis. In the US only "East Asians" are considered "Asian" - Chinese, Japanese, Korean mostly, with Vietnamese, Cambodians, etc making up a smaller number. These are the Asians that are traditionally of high SES here and Indians are considered low SES. Personally that con…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 07:11 PM
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It didn't end slavery in certain states, but it did in all the states still in rebellion at the time of the proclamation (accounting for about 75% of American slaves at the time). A huge amount were immediately freed. The 13th amendment prevented any legal issues that might arise from the Emancipation Proclamation and freed the slaves in the loyal slave states in 1865. However, the lion's share of the abolition was done in 1863 by Lincoln.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 07:03 PM
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Because while a religion is defined by its organization, its effects are how its members behave. Feminism is the same, but instead of having to take a bath to be a member, or getting a piece of your genitals removed to be a member, or tithing 10% of your income and wearing magic underpants, all someone has to do to speak for feminism is say 4 magic words: "I'm a feminist and..." At that point, no one knows whether they are or not but the message is still propagated. You know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 06:59 PM
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It gets me going on down the river, obviously. Fuck yeah, kayaking, tubing, and rafting. Sounds like a deal to me!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 06:51 PM
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I agree that SES is one of the axes of "privilege", but I'd argue that it is the primary axis. The reason being is that (in the USA at least) all of the "un-privileged" minorities outside of white women are perceived because the group has a historically low SES. Blacks are assumed to be "up to no good" because blacks are historically poor. Hispanics are the same. Asians are assumed to be fine, because Asians have been historically not poor for quite some time in the US. You also don't see anyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 06:44 PM
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Comparing SES privilege with race or gender is perfectly valid, unless you are trying to say that discrimination and unequal treatment don't occur based on SES, which would be blatantly false. Especially when it comes to legally protected areas like employment where SES is not a protected class. Why can't I complain about lack of special treatment when that is literally the logic of feminism and all arguments about privilege? Poor white people are disadvantaged and discriminated against due to S…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 05:29 PM
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So you're trying to tell me that a high SES white woman has less privilege than a low SES white man? Just because people see him as a man? Or that a low SES white man has more privilege than a high SES black man? Wow. Privilege comes from wealth, not race or gender. Let me clue you in on life as a poor white man from those areas. The assumption about you? Meth. The assumption about a black man? Poor. If that is privilege, you can keep it. And in the poor areas of america a 15 year old white girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 05:08 PM
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I didn't think that I was, but these days, I'd say yes. After having a ton of discussions on TRP and here in PPD, it would seem that I was a bit of a 'natural' in my life and that my foray into "betadom" was temporary. However, RP philosophy is very similar to what I figured out and practiced on my own in my youth, and the MRP philosophy, when applied correctly, is doing great work in my marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:52 PM
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I've been married for a long time to the same woman, thanks. The fact is, that even if you choose wisely, the system (in this case it would be comparable to the internal combustion engine in a car) is an extremely dangerous thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:45 PM
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Also, we recognize that white men are the epitome of privilege. They have gender, racial, and usually class privilege I know you're Texan, but sometime you need to take a trip to Alabama, Mississippi, or central Florida and visit the trailer parks there. I can promise you that you won't find any white men with privilege. While white enjoy class privilege at a higher rate than minorities, the absolute numbers are staggering. There are more poor whites than poor blacks in the USA today (18 million…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:40 PM
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Maybe I'm taking issue with the terminology then. Visibly intoxicated? Leave them alone! Blackout is an internal state, not an external state. So yeah, I think you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:26 PM
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Yeah, tbh I am also in the tiny minority of people who behaves pretty lucidly when super fucked up. My issue is that there's no way to tell I was blacked out. I was fully functional, and in my opinion, if someone is behaving in a non-intoxicated or very lightly intoxicated (tipsy, having a great time dancing) manner, that's a green light for flirting/approaching. After all, how can someone who wasn't with a drinker and actively monitoring their intake know their intoxication status outside of ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:20 PM
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The point is that no one was readily giving them anything before the opposition was defeated. Ummm... Emancipation proclamation was in 1863. The war didn't end until 1865. Edit: also, slavery was abolished multiple times without wars. 1542: Spain bans slavery of non-blacks (read: native north and south americans) 1590: Japan bans slavery except as a legal punishment. 1706: England bans slavery within its borders in a court decision. 1723: Russia bans slavery 1793: Slavery abolished in Canada 179…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:15 PM
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It's culture, not religion. The Saudi culture makes women invisible, not Islam itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:11 PM
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I'm a tremendously happily married MRP. Many men in MRP start out unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:02 PM
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red pillers want to have sex without the responsibility of consent Red pillers want consent to be clearly stated by women if they mean "no" so that "yes" can proceed naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 03:49 PM
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I had tons of casual sex while I was black out drunk. Yes, I had a drinking problem. No, I wasn't behaving in a rational or safe manner. Apparently I'm pretty charming when I'm completely fucked up. Still, every time I woke up in a strange bed in a strange apartment, my thought wasn't, "oh shit, someone raped me!" It was, "Oh fuck, why did I do that?!" - after the initial, "Oh god, my head..."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 03:47 PM
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I had my bike stolen when it was locked. Does that mean I shouldn't ever lock it? No, you lock it every damned time. Because if you don't, it is almost guaranteed to be gone when you get back. The guy who stole it is still an asshole, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't have locked up your bike.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 03:41 PM
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If half of all the people ever to get into a car got into a major accident, I'd avoid them like the plague. If half of all the planes crashed, I wouldn't use them. Hell even if the "real" divorce rate is 25%, that's 1 in 4. At those stats, would you use a star trek teleporter? No thanks, I'll just walk.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 03:16 PM
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I've got nothing to add here. In my opinion, women were always part of the western European and American power structure, covertly so. Feminism simply made it overt. You can see it in the fact that in the West, Queen has always been a respected position. Where are the Queens in Saudi Arabia? There's ONE woman who is referred to as a Queen (Faisal's most prominent wife) but is a historical figure. Current royal females are not important. In places where there is true oppression of women, they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 03:09 PM
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I'm a reasonably well endowed guy and I broke condoms at a rate of 1-2 per session until I discovered I needed bigger ones. They were tight, they were uncomfortable, and they choked off my blood flow. They also popped like a god damned balloon. I figured since everyone complained about them, my experience was normal. Now I know I just need larger sizes. This was all between the ages of 14-23ish. You know, the time in my life when if I had a kid unexpectedly, it would have fucked me over forever.…
/r/TheRedPill22/09/16 03:02 PM
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Late 30s here, and nothing could be further from the truth. Married for 15+ years. 5 kids. Career is great, my marriage is great, my kids are great. Rich and rewarding social life. And let me tell you, as a man who fucked his way through life from 14-23, I don't miss it. More pretty girls want to fuck me now than they did then. Prettier girls want to fuck me now than back then. But I don't need them anymore. I've got a viking queen raising my kids, and I can go on a voyage to raid Britain if I f…
/r/TheRedPill22/09/16 02:49 PM
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The mental gymnastics is strong with you. I'm done showing you the truth. You keep telling yourself whatever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 02:44 PM
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Sure dude, I'm sure the government and hundreds of universities don't have lots of statistical evidence of the effectiveness of weight training. Oh wait, Yes [they] (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5528a1.htm) do. I accept apologies in written form, account deletions, or bottles of scotch. You can also donate clean socks to homeless people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 01:24 PM
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And humans like people we identify with, so white guys hire white guys (this is statistically proven, it's an unconscious bias everyone has). Maybe, but in my small company, for a rare entry level position, we just hired a black man over a whole slate of whites and hispanics because... he was equally qualified with a white person and had a better personality. Our senior positions are all white or hispanics, because blacks have been historically rare in our field. By your logic, shouldn't we have…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 01:15 PM
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It's a work in progress even today (over 15 years after I got together with my wife). The first thing I had to realize was that chasing lots of girls didn't make me feel better. It was fun, but it didn't fulfill me. That happened when I met my wife and the sex was so good I just didn't care about other women. However, I continued to seek validation professionally and personally, just not in a sexual way, for a long, long time. The next thing that had to happen was I had to accept that my mother …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:56 PM
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In my opinion, affirmative action programs are doing exactly the opposite of what they are designed for. If the purpose is true meritocracy, quota systems fight against that, not for it. The fact that any person is given structural preferential treatment is not equality. It's literally the definition of bias and/or discrimination. If a job requires a set of skills, then only that set of skills should be the metric for hiring. Not race, not gender, not sex, not anything else. Affirmative action p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:32 PM
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hundreds of people posting online that they'd worked out really hard and made no gains Dude, THEY are the outliers. Look at the literal thousands and millions of people that get normal gains. Clearly you don't understand statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:27 PM
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I have never asked this question and never would. This question is not only rude, but it would result in bad data the majority of the time. That data is ascertained through observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 03:30 PM
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No, but I do expect someone who is intelligent as you claim to be to be able to look past their inbuilt biases and not project their own failures on others, which is what you're doing in this post. Smart doesn't mean right. And you're wrong on many, many levels, but you're too conceited to see it. A man who can bench 350 shows that he benches 350. He doesn't talk about it. You're in here talking about shit you don't understand in an effort to convince everyone you're right. If you're right, don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 03:21 PM
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so I can't really see the point. The point is to constantly improve who you are and to learn something about yourself. But you're right, it's easier to be a lazy whiny bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:11 PM
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Eat 5-6 small meals a day. I can work around my intestinal surgeries just fine, and I've had chronic digestive issues for my entire adult life. Here's a link to a cheap, not super complex weekly meal plan. Dude's Spanish is on point, too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF-WV8uodb0
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:10 PM
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You don't seem to have read the OP because it's already established that if you're skinny and have bad genetics that you won't gain muscle. And even if you do you won't become big built. Sure dude. 10 years ago I left the hospital after an intestinal operation similar to yours - 5'10", 107 lbs. That's a BMI of 15.4. I wasn't permitted to lift due to concerns about tearing and the multiple surgeries I had gone through, so I waited. I got lazy, and I finally started again about 7 months ago. Today…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:07 PM
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So really the problem is that you're not getting any and your mad about guys that are "lesser" than you are getting some. And hence you think you should be guaranteed sex while others should not. Have you seen OP's gem from the other day? https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/53383o/cmv_my_3_methods_for_equalizing_the_hookup/ He literally just wants to put barriers in the way of more attractive men to get laid, in the hopes that it will "trickle down" to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 09:45 PM
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I'd say TRP preaches a single path because it's easier to lay out step by step instructions. Once a man has the basics down, he can make adjustments as necessary. But if he skips any of the basics, he's going to fail on the path. Once he's achieved a certain level of mastery, he can change what he thinks is necessary. So: Lift Social Skills Mental/Frame control Realize that women are humans with human imperfections Lifting teaches valuable life lessons. Social skills are a requirement to having …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 09:33 PM
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Never seen it. I'm old.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 09:22 PM
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Yes, but other men have felt that love and so they long to return to it, I would assume. It makes me wonder if the 'neglect' that they feel is caused by the same behaviors that I feel 'joy' for in my relationship. I love that my wife wants me to fuck her brains out because she thinks I'm hot - she values me for that. I love that she wants me to be involved with our kids because she thinks that I'm a good role model - they all value me for that. I love that she thinks my career is amazing because…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 09:21 PM
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Cool. Is DENNIS regarded as legit or is it panned for being PUA bullshit? I have no idea, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 09:12 PM
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Actually I was pointing out that OP was claiming that providing value entitled him to anything. Women are not interested in value a man can provide to others. They're interested in him demonstrating it. A subtle but key distinction. I've never read the DENNIS system - I have been in a relationship with my wife since my early 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 09:09 PM
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I honestly wonder if that is why my marriage is as solid as it is. I don't feel the compulsion to feel unconditionally loved, as I have never experienced it. However, the path to get here was awful, and I can't recommend it to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 09:08 PM
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I think I have met 1 TRPer in real life - through work. He ticks all the markers: Nerdy Poor social skills IT business owner Never married Bitches about women constantly Looks down on women (very obvious misogynist) Lifts religiously, but just started within the last 3 years Is unable to solve complex problems without help I couldn't stand him. Everything came across like he was trying WAY too hard. Everyone else I know IRL who actually embody TRP values are naturals or hide it well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:51 PM
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I don't know, but I know 2 Kyles and they are both huge bitches. Hunting Kyle just thinks his wife is the shit. Yes, she cooks well. No, I still don't want her on our man trips out into the bush where we grill and cook beans over a fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:47 PM
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Validation seeking. My mother's favorite tool was to explain to me in great detail how I ruined her life and was worthless scum. It continued into adulthood, so I turned to girls my own age to make myself feel valued in some way. Once I met the woman who became my wife, it was apparent how much she valued me and why. That behavior was pretty easy to stop once that occurred.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:45 PM
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All of my hunting buddies are SUPER RP without any exposure. Except Kyle. Fuck you, Kyle. You still can't bring your wife on our trips.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:42 PM
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I have to think about this. You've got a good point but it doesn't fit in my current mental model. Good talk, fellow Texan.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:38 PM
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It's cool. Just part of me that I'm finding ways to move past. It does explain a LOT about why I pursued women with such vigor in my youth, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:37 PM
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I've read an upvoted comment with each of those sentiments in TRP in the last year. They exist. I will believe you, but I still don't think that they are prominent. There are many "upvoted comments" in TRP that are bullshit personal opinions, including many of mine. And not all women want leaders NAWALT? many redpillers think being a leader is taking by force or putting down/negging. Many redpillers are also dumb as bricks when it comes to relationships, which is why they need help. Negging? We'…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:34 PM
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Nope, I have always said I'm from Texas - must have me confused with someone else. No, a smelly construction worker is not accomplished, but he is manly. Most menial physical labor jobs are not respected, but they are masculine. True, but most people do respect difficult blue collar work (or at least most men do). Many men are masculine and cowardly. Think of Jonny Manzel for instance, since you're from Texas. He used drugs, beat his girlfriend, and threw away a million dollar career. He is masc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:25 PM
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Personal productive contributions are decoupled from sexual activity in the world in which we live. If you want to have sex in return for your work, find a woman and convince her to agree to that in contractual form. "I will do xxxx and yyyy at this big data corp and in return you will have sex with me 1 time per xxxx or yyyy." I bet you'll find zero takers. Sex is had by: Being social Being attractive DEMONSTRATING value (not providing it)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:23 PM
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Nicola Tesla died a virgin, and I can promise you he contributed loads more than you have to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:19 PM
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I might be fucked up then due to an abusive mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:17 PM
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I am in Texas, and I don't agree. Masculine men need to be accomplished in some way. Sometimes that way is being a strong, bad-smelling construction worker - but he's accomplishing something. The lazy guy in the corner isn't regarded as "masculine". I've never heard of cowardice as a masculine trait anywhere. Are you confusing "retreat and fight another day" tactics in these movie villains as cowardice? In fact, I'd say that cowardice is the OPPOSITE of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:13 PM
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... what? Women need to be put down because she wants that in a partner. Um... TRP preaches that woman seeks out a leader in her man. That doesn't require any type of "putting down". A leader leads. Negativity is not a necessary part of that equation. 'Casual sex with a woman who want commitment is just nature'. Well yes. Casual sex is casual sex. Many women want commitment more than casual sex. Many men want casual sex more than they want commitment. Where those two wants align is where casual …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:08 PM
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Pearl of wisdom right here Ladies and Gentlemen!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:01 PM
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Unhealthy people are drawn to TRP because it proposes solutions to problems unhealthy people regularly experience - lack of assertiveness, lack of success with women, etc. Abusive people are drawn to any social grouping in an attempt to use it to mask their own behavior - Religious groups, sports teams, hell, I even knew an abusive guy (read: monster) that used AA & NA to prey upon vulnerable women. TRP is not unique in that, and it is NOT a defining characteristic. Hell, an abuser could hide be…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:31 PM
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Perhaps, but those traits are nearly universal when discussing the qualities of 'masculine' men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:28 PM
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I'm not sure. I haven't sorted through this topic in my head all the way yet, but it is certainly provoking some interesting lines of theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:14 PM
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There's definitely a split between the "hot girl I want to fuck" and "(preferably hot) girl that I am willing to trust with my children". The difference to me is that I was hunting for the mother of my children/life mate from a young age. That didn't mean it was the only type of girl I slept with. My life went: Youth (under 17): sleep with whoever, fall hopelessly in love 70% of the time. Older youth (17-end of high school): play the field while scouting for a suitable long term partner. Ended u…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 06:54 PM
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I think accomplishment is at the very root of masculinity. That Mother Teresa accomplished things does not change that. Respect is derived from said accomplishment. I think that masculine traits don't necessarily exclude women. There are plenty of masculine women out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 06:49 PM
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Dancing is an indicator of sexual prowess, physical form, and grace in action. Professional dancers, however, do not have the useful applicability of say MMA fighters. There are better avenues to display those qualities. However, every man should be at least a passable casual dancer.
/r/askTRP20/09/16 06:47 PM
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99.9% of the time, yes. If a woman is honest and openly trying to get you laid with another woman though, pay attention to what she says, but only her. I've had that kind of relationship in my life twice, and both times were incredibly fulfilling and educational. One was an open relationship with a girl - we introduced each other to potential partners and fucked around ourselves constantly. The other was a coworker/work wife who was too old for me but still super hot and would hang around with m…
/r/askTRP20/09/16 06:37 PM
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Not angry. Dismissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 06:32 PM
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I disagree. There are plenty of males out there that are in no way masculine. Both James Bond and Albert Einstein accomplished impressive things, had great success with women, and were widely respected. Those are some of their masculine traits that don't exist in many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 06:30 PM
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I mostly agree with you on those points.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 06:28 PM
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Because I don't care who she fucked before me. What matters is how she fucks me now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 06:10 PM
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Question to ask is "What did Genghis Khan actually own ?" Horses, weapons, family, tribe, armies, loyalty, power.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/16 06:03 PM
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Long hair can look amazing too, but it also needs styling and cutting to keep it up. Hair like this doesn't just happen. Source: Had more than 24" of hair for a long time.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/16 05:50 PM
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Hot woman barber also works if you make it clear you're there for honesty and not flirting.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/16 05:48 PM
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Any resource worth looking at will tell you (or at least imply) that the #1 rule of male fashion (or any fashion) is that everything looks better when you're fit. This is 100% correct, and the reason is that good looking clothing reveals positive body traits. Without positive body traits, humans look like crap, regardless of what fabric you are wearing. The only exception to this is clothes that mimic positive traits, such as suit coats, which can square out (broaden) your shoulders, and the lik…
/r/TheRedPill20/09/16 05:46 PM
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... Are you a married woman living in Texas with 5 kids? Because you sound exactly like my wife on this topic. Please, take this as the compliment I mean it to be. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:40 PM
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i'd question more why RPers read TBP so much if they think it's such worthless nonsense written by idiots not worth taking seriously. I indulge in TBP once a week. I'm always looking for something that will tell me what is really wrong with TRP (under the assumption that TBPers have an honest logical argument to stand on), but I end up just laughing the entire time and never finding any real objections outside of "TRP makes me feel bad because they say things in a mean way." Plus, that way I nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:33 PM
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I'm RP and identify as an Egalitarian. I want my sons and daughters to have equal opportunity before the law and in employment/commerce. I don't want my daughters to be able to take a job from a qualified man if they are unqualified for that role and vice versa for my sons. That's just me wanting effective personnel for society's benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:29 PM
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The redpills fear of strong women would sicken a norse manly man. I agree. I jokingly refer to my wife as my "viking queen", but the knowledge that my children are reliably raised with strong direction is a very important part of of the stability in our lives. Her strength qualities are a huge part of why I like her, and I'm an MRPer, and it makes me able to both have a large family and spend an absurd amount of time on my career, social life, etc. Then again, we're broaching into why I disagree…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:14 PM
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Enjoy your no pussy then, have a great life!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:38 PM
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Yes, and those men haven't really read about stoicism. They're suppressing emotions, which is an unhealthy method of self control. Stoicism is something completely different - an almost religious like philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:37 PM
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You know how many times I asked about my partners' previous partners? Zero. The only reason I know about any of them is because she told me without me asking. I haven't ever inquired about sexual history past sexual health status, and I never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:31 PM
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If they do, then more for those of us who don't "go on strike", right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:27 PM
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This doesn't surprise me (not the person you're replying to). An independent woman can change the things in her life independently of her mate. My wife can change jobs essentially at will without impacting our relationship in a meaningful way. If she was a no-job-experience SAHM and got bored with her lifestyle? Only real option that doesn't involve years of schooling would be to find someone else to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:24 PM
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I agree. I'm a 'niche' attractive guy, but not overwhelmingly so. I attract nerdy smart girls like nobody's business but had far worse luck with 'standard' women. If I met a girl who was into math, science, science fiction, literature, theater, etc, I was in like Flynn. Put me in front of most cheerleaders? I'm hopeless. We had very little in common and she wouldn't find my traits interesting or attractive in many cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:21 PM
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dont force yourself to be stoic This sounds like you don't understand stoicism. Stoicism is not lack of emotion. It's not letting the bad things bring you down and stop you. Good things are still appropriately celebrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:17 PM
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You do you without needing to put down others or harm them to get what you want. The Romans and Norse would reject this outright, I'm afraid. They were societies built upon usage of force and harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:15 PM
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I dropped a super duper hot (HB9+) but not because of how gorgeous she was. It was because she really wasn't "mother material", was really dumb, and was incredibly crazy. Turned out I made the right choice - she just got out of prison after serving over 10 years for child abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:09 PM
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It's all customized man. I've answered those inquiries dozens of times before. Sorry if I don't feel inclined to type it out yet again for some random guy on the internet who thinks he could help me. Well, I've never asked you before, and I'm not going to cyber stalk your comments. I offered you some free assistance if you want it, it's on you to take it or turn it down. But in my opinion, by showing your resistance to any help, you're forfeiting your right to post in here and complain about you…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 03:37 PM
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And your attempt to sound like you have been afflicted by this condition with no hope of recovery is clearly having the desired effect - giving you the opportunity to reject any inquiry that might actually help. Instead it seems you just want the unquestioned ability to complain about your likely self inflicted problem. Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 12:51 PM
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I am interested in collecting data on your condition. I have never had an Incel tell me they have a rich and healthy social life. There are many who are outstanding physical specimens, but lack social skills. There are many Incels who are extremely unfortunate physically, and yet many physically similar men have rewarding and happy romantic lives. The cause is highly inconsistent or very nebulous. In either case, the fact that you won't even address basic standards and facts and are dismissing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 11:35 PM
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Less than a year on academics, professional, and family? You're 31? You have had 15 years or so to work on celibacy. How many women do you approach a week, on average? How many long term female friends do you have? Male friends? Do you go to social events at least once a week? How is your body fat percentage? Lean muscle mass? Have you spent time finding a haircut that looks good instead of merely passable? How is your style, assuming bf% is normal or lower? Teeth? Acne? The sexual market place …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 11:14 PM
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Depends upon the legitimacy of sex addiction, but yes I think it is probably rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 10:33 PM
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I don't understand why you'd ask for my number on a public message board...?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 10:03 PM
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Psychological compulsion in certain cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 10:00 PM
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Why, you want to have some amazing private phone sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 09:56 PM
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So how come I'm able to move my career forward, progress academically and professionally, support my terminally ill mother and my deadbeat sibling, yet still incel? Because you're focusing your efforts on those (perfectly noble) goals instead of your deep seated social/psychological dysfunction that removes confidence in the face of a woman, I'd wager. Academic and professional skills do not necessarily correlate with social/sexual skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 09:46 PM
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They have a place to vent - /r/incel and /r/foreveralone TRP has a mission, and dudes who aren't on board with that mission need to get out and cut down on the noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 09:42 PM
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I would say that different men compete for the attention of 8 of 10 women. Top 20% are after the top 3-4. Top 50-21% are after the top 4-5. Top 80-51% are after the top 6 or so. Bottom 20% are after the top 8. The least attractive women are going to be the 1s and 2s and are going to be incredibly overweight or have massive attraction issues (unfixable facial structures, really really bad teeth, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 09:35 PM
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I'm a male 8/10 or so. Yes, as a young man, I would literally get phone calls at home (pre cell phone days) asking me to come over and booty call girls. I had ex's who would call me asking me to drive hours to come fuck them after they had left for the summer or for college. I had one (totally awesome) ex who would invite me up to her college town, get banged out, and then call her friends to see who was down for the same treatment. My male friends who were not as attractive as me were bewildere…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 09:31 PM
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If the campus is over 5000 people large -- there's bound to be at least one or two model looking dudes about So the top .08%? Assuming 50/50 gender split 2 out of 2500. That's not anywhere near top 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 09:18 PM
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Betas in Texas will fuck anything too. My standards were pretty crazy now that I've had years to think about it (major metro area in Texas). From 18-25 it was pretty much less than 10% of women (18-30) were 'fuckable' by my standards: 60% were excluded due to weight alone 20% were excluded to being too god damned dumb half of the remaining just weren't attractive enough for my taste However, in my youth in a more rural area, I saw more of what you see - dudes would fuck anyone they could bed so …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 09:17 PM
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My relationship with my wife has been a D/s one for years (basically since marriage). We only apply the power relationship in the bedroom, though. Previous relationship was 24/7 and completely exhausting, as I didn't set the boundaries properly and she went out of her way to abuse said relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 08:49 PM
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Red Pill isn't wrong about my wife - she conforms to the vast majority of the behavioral traits. I didn't say "oldest teenager" was wrong - I said that it's a useful bit of hyperbole/heuristic. It reminds me to retain my position as leader in our relationship. It isn't saying, "Durr hurr, all women are literally children." I don't think she's a special snowflake. I think that she and I have invested a ton of time and effort into our relationship. Now that I've been following TRP, our relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 03:19 PM
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I'm saying that the fat, socially inept MTG players are less than 20% of the population at all the stores I frequent. There are tons of heavy guys who aren't socially inept in MTG that have girlfriends, wives, etc. They might be beta, but they're not incels.
/r/TheRedPill19/09/16 03:16 PM
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I started consulting in my early 30s. You need to build up your skills beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 03:15 PM
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The issue with this is that there is no way to know if harm has been done to an unborn child. The vast majority of miscarriages produce no real evidence, and the 'victim' has no Social Security Number, and no one to miss them. You skipped this question: At what point in the pregnancy are cops allowed to make an assumption of pregnancy status? All women? A slight tummy bulge (LOL)?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 09:50 PM
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Yeah, I think that the voting blocs in those states are just trying to push for greater abortion bans, myself. Those that don't adhere to "all embryos are humans with rights" and are still anti-choice are just roundabout slut shamers in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 09:49 PM
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Considering I think that TRP is mostly focused on men, and Yonderlander was specific about what TRP says about women, I think I covered most of them. I don't believe that the "oldest teenager" or "children" thing are anything but useful heuristics/hyperbole. When you get rid of those two things, what I listed (which is 7 things, not 4) is what I think of when I think of TRP's stance on women. TRP breaks down into: If you want to have sexual success, be someone women will see as worth pursuing Do…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 09:40 PM
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His abs are ridiculous, but I think he's closer to our Brad Pitt model than Lee Priest. He does look like a total douchebag bro, but his body is pretty spectacular, in my opinion. I wouldn't cry if I had abs/chest/arms like that, and I bet my wife would love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 09:29 PM
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I am able to judge if my claims are legitimate or not. I have no way of trusting or knowing how people judge their own claims, or if their lying. Guess what! The same applies to you! So don't go demanding impossible evidence from people unless you're willing to provide the same. You're not debating, you're being an unreasonable asshole. How is this hypocritical? I just explained that to you. Second of all, no other country in the world has frats or athletic programs in colleges and they do fine.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 09:17 PM
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In some areas. However, if pregnant women are banned from drinking and smoking, how are they to be controlled outside of a public bar/restaurant? Who enforces it, the cops? What about other dangerous habits? At what point in the pregnancy are cops allowed to make an assumption of pregnancy status? All women? A slight tummy bulge (LOL)? Do all women who test positive for pregnancy need to report to the authorities to register their status immediately? Will there be a database?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 09:15 PM
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The point is, finding someone attractive doesn't make a person "bad". I'm more ottermode than bear (5'10" 151 lbs as of today). I'm not a bulk monster. The fact is, more muscle on an ottermode frame is straight up more attractive than skinny or fat. And when you're dealing with a bunch of socially inept beta billies (like on TRP), the assumption is they're either fat or too skinny. In either case, they need to put on more muscle and they will be more attractive. And putting on muscle isn't somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 09:11 PM
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No it doesn't. None of your claims in this thread have ANY evidence. Demanding that from others is hypocritical in the extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 09:04 PM
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Because it's wrong to think that many women want a leader in their relationships? Or is it wrong that many women do cheat? Or is it wrong that most women want a man who is in good shape? Or is it wrong that most women want a man who is desired by other women? Or is it wrong that most women want a man who doesn't make her the focus of his life at the expense of everything else? How about the wrongness of many women desiring a different type of man depending on the place in her menstrual cycle? (g…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:56 PM
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I ain't arguing that, but that was less than 10 people. How do you hamster away the women who didn't outright propose adultery? The ones that had no idea I was married and flirting with me as a result of my TRP changes? Are they all stupid or bad people? What about my wife who has stuck with me from natural bad boy to full blue pill to implemented MRP? Is she suddenly worth less as a person because of my behavior? Did her considerable intellect disappear because I put on muscle and started pursu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:44 PM
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Do you? I lived it. You claim not to have. Therefore my experience is clearly more applicable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:42 PM
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Ashkenazi Jew. Some people consider that white, others don't. I'll leave it to you. One of the hottest versions of white, IMO. Rock that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:40 PM
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My parents stayed married and were upper middle class, although my mother was tremendously abusive and my father traveled 80%+ of the time. Very Roman Catholic with an emphasis on piety and family clannishness. I do feel like the average TRP subscriber is from a different planet than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:37 PM
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Agreed, which is why I get so confused when we have the interrogation about "what culture tried to bluepill indoctrinate you". I happened so young I don't even remember the specifics in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:36 PM
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Whiteness is relative. As Catholics, we always considered Lebanese to be "white" due to the Maronite church. Louis CK is a white Mexican (red hair). Hell, Irish and Italians used to be considered nonwhite in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:31 PM
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And who is going to enforce it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:28 PM
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All gyms oversell memberships from what I've heard from employees. But smith machines are the devil.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:24 PM
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If one does not accept the pro-life premise of full personhood for previable embryos, then no justification of pro-choice is logically necessary, thus rendering your argument moot, I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:19 PM
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The only internally consistent pro-life stance is if the person literally believes that the embryo is a full human with rights from conception, and therefore abortion is murder. Otherwise, the internally consistent idea is that abortion be permitted up to the point where that embryo becomes legally recognized as a human being (currently legally accepted around the end of the 2nd trimester). The amount of changes that would have to be wrought in society if that were to become legally accepted is …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:16 PM
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Smith machines Alright, I'm on board. Let's burn this mother fucker down.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:13 PM
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Dude, I play Magic: the Gathering competitively. I can promise you that I've met a ton of them around. The fact is they're not that prominent in numbers unless they never leave home at all, and if that's the case - they have no one to blame but themselves. Sex is a social activity.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/16 08:10 PM
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I wasn't in a frat - my school had very few, and they were actually mocked (also state uni, but no huge sports program at the time). We just had parties without an organization and everybody had a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:09 PM
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That sounds completely retarded, but I learned to lift in a high school weight room and have always worked out at home after graduation. they don't have barbells or heavy dumbbells WTF are they doing, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:07 PM
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shouldn't isn't a word in the manosphere. IS is more apt. You are 100% correct, I was being a slacker.
/r/askMRP16/09/16 07:38 PM
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and the death of planet fitness Ok, I have to know what you mean here, because it sounds hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 07:37 PM
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Because banning drugs & alcohol is working out so well for us here in the US, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 07:36 PM
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If you're not interesting enough to keep that girl interested, that's your problem. I'm 5'10" and have snaked plenty of girls from taller men. You need to demonstrate your value, both sexually and emotionally - girls want men that make them feel excited, not pity for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 07:35 PM
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You weren't, but you're also posting on a public message board. I get along quite well with almost everyone. All my coworkers and I get along, in a company that's 80% men. My last company was over 80% women, and everyone liked me there also. Generally speaking, the only people I don't get along with are men who consider me a threat to their position(not terribly uncommon, but when you're a consultant...).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 07:33 PM
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But there will still be disparities. What you're suggesting reeks of communist thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 07:31 PM
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Well good thing you figured it out eventually!
/r/askMRP16/09/16 06:47 PM
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Seriously, I had casual sex at festivals, camp outs, keggers, etc. But 99% of the time, we ended up in my bed or her bed, because logistics, privacy, and the longevity of sex. I don't really want 30+ people watching me do the old in-out for 30-45 minutes. I mean, I have had sex in front of other people (public and couples sex parties) but it's not how I prefer my initial encounter with someone to go, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 06:42 PM
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I'm an RP man and I see lots of slut shaming done by other women. Most men I know find out a girl is a slut and she goes on their "potential hook up" list, not the slut shaming list (unless it's a family member, then they go fucking bananas with slut shaming).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 06:37 PM
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Do you think Europe and Asia are sexual utopias for low SMV men or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 06:30 PM
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Why the hell does your wife "know about this redpill thing"? Keep your mouth shut, man.
/r/askMRP16/09/16 06:24 PM
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She's the happiest married woman I've ever known.
/r/askMRP16/09/16 06:23 PM
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Why would we do this? It sounds like instead of raising up low SMV men, you're trying to punish high SMV men. The problem with this is that there will always be what are called 'naturals' - the Chads. Even if you remove the athletes, there will still be men naturally more muscular and better looking. The casual sex will simply coalesce around them instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 06:21 PM
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Are you thinking about confiscating home gyms as well? Because I haven't set foot in an actual gym outside of a hotel in a long, long time (since college).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 06:16 PM
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Well you are a SAHM that is your job during the day while your husband is working at his job Wife seems to think I don't pull my weight with the house/kids, I think the opposite. If you're providing ALL of the monetary input and she is providing zero, your contribution to the household chores should be negligible. Raise your kids, because they need a father. But you shouldn't be expected to do any of the bullshit housework when she's a SAHM. She's got 40+ hours a week to handle all that shit whe…
/r/askMRP16/09/16 06:10 PM
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I think he meant "you're not responsible for her unfucking (fixing) her behavior, she is." I actually agree with him about marriage counseling. We went to one session right after we got married, where the therapist tried to convince her that I was just like her alcoholic father. We walked out and I told her, "We can come back here next week and get a divorce. Or we can go home, agree to resolve and work out our problems like adults, and never ever try this again." We've been together for over 15…
/r/askMRP16/09/16 06:07 PM
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I eat about 180g protein per day (weight 150-155). Sunday is grilling day. Chicken breasts with seasoned salt mostly. I make enough for lunch every day until the next week. If you get big chicken breasts, and you eat turkey sausage and/or eggs with your breakfast, you'll be building off a solid protein baseline for the day. Add in a reasonable healthy dinner and some Whey isolate and you're in business.
/r/askTRP16/09/16 05:58 PM
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You can absolutely do both simultaneously. I have lost almost 50 lbs and my arms, shoulders, chest, and thighs have all had huge muscle gains. Cut calorie intake by 300 calories per day from maintenance. Do SL 5x5 (FOLLOW THE FUCKING PROGRAM). My waist shrinks, my muscles get bigger. Change the food you eat to vast majority of proteins (chicken and pork are my go-tos) and vegetables (peas, broccoli, green beans, stuff like that). No, you aren't going to blow up like a roided out power lifter, bu…
/r/askTRP16/09/16 05:56 PM
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You should have A&A'd. "Yup, sometimes 4 or 5 at a time. You should hear the shit the neighbors say." Then laugh. Come on man, this is basic shit.
/r/askTRP16/09/16 05:53 PM
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60-80% of single men are getting zero or next to zero sex. Who are these men? Is my social circle really that accomplished? I'd say of the single men I know (ages 25-50) 60% are getting sex regularly but not frequently, 20% are swimming in it, and 20% get none.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/16 05:27 PM
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Actually I was also agreeing with you and him. Making 15k a year is freedom, because it's not like you can lose anything.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/16 05:11 PM
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Freedom is really about not worrying about potential losses. When you have nothing to lose, you're free. When you have so much it doesn't matter if you lose something, you're also free.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/16 04:28 PM
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White. Live just outside a major urban Texas city but work in said large city. I'm not sure if that makes me urban or suburban.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 04:18 PM
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I was pretty hairless young and never got complimented on it. I've got a huge beard now and get compliments on it regularly. My chest and belly hair are coming in a lot thicker these days, and my wife actually likes it. I have no back hair, and my legs are super hairy - no complaints ever. There's a difference between having body hair and being teen wolf. At least when you're super hairy there are options for maintenance removal that take way less work than losing weight or getting taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 04:01 PM
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I order Hooter's wings take out because my wife & I love them. We don't go inside other than to pick them up. I've been to Twin Peaks once for a work networking group, and haven't been to a strip club other than an ill-advised bachelor party for Captain Beta since I was a teenager. I don't find attention from women that are getting paid to provide attention fulfilling in the slightest. This is also why I've never paid for sex in any way. I have some acquaintances that frequent those establishmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 03:46 PM
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Actually the only woman I "hate" is not a feminist at all. She's earned my hate over decades and believes all women should be devoutly religious stay at home moms. The rest of women have traits that I like, and some traits I don't. Remarkably like my relationship with 99% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 03:30 PM
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But where TRP is needy comes from validation issues. You're correct, but only partially. You see, to work past validation issues, you have to receive regular validation to realize how poisonous it is. After about a year of TRP application, I was getting attention. A ton of attention compared to the previous 5-7 years. I loved it, I reveled in it. And it made me absolutely miserable. Relying on other people for my self worth was crippling. I was behaving like a performing monkey. I mean, part of …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 02:07 PM
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No, you're shaming these insecurities and it doesn't make any sense to me, because TRP shows men the amazing amount of destruction wrought by not acknowledging this as a problem and trying to "look past" women who don't truly find their mates attractive. A woman who doesn't (excitably and without prompting) strongly sexually desire her husband current boyfriend more than her past partners is not a suitable candidate for a spouse for that partner. There's nothing wrong with teaching people that, …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 01:50 PM
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They are married themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 01:47 PM
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Nope, but I'm going to check it out if it explores this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 01:46 PM
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So are you saying that married women can't be raped by their husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 08:45 PM
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Man, when I tell my wife about this, she's going to die of laughter. She loves to get hammered and then... well... hammered.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 08:35 PM
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Cool man, I will keep that in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 08:28 PM
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Actually I have, I was a practicing bisexual for a brief period in my youth. Alcoholism is a hell of a drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 07:51 PM
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I'm working on a theory of humans as tribal beings. This is one of the central tenets of it - tribes will perpetuate "evil" upon others or their own members for the utilitarian benefits of the whole and/or the benefit of the leadership. The perpetrators rarely view it as evil, instead a necessary course of action to achieve their goals (be that protection, conquest, religious purposes, securing resources, etc). There's a reason everyone is killing in the name of God, and not claiming responsibil…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 07:42 PM
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Shut the fuck up in your daily life and work. You aren't going to get anything spouting off negativity. Go read "How to Win Friends and Influence People" - one of the first rules is to quit complaining and being negative. Don't talk shit. Just go be yourself, but be positive. If you can't be positive, shut up.
/r/askTRP15/09/16 07:39 PM
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I'm a married red piller. I think that people tend to focus on what is good for themselves and possibly their community (tribe, family, workplace, etc), with a priority on the individual and then decreasing in intensity as the relationships become more and more distant. So, on average, self > children > other blood relatives > distant relatives/friends > etc. If you look at "evil" throughout history, most of it was perpetuated by people thinking that they were doing what was best for themselves …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 07:26 PM
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Anyone can fake for awhile. Most cases aren't this drastic, certainly. However, the principle is still applicable. If a man isn't a very attractive specimen with higher value in his woman's eyes (higher than her other, past, partners) then her excitability and attraction for him will wane over time. My wife has a high n count (so do I). It doesn't matter though because our sex life is better than either of us have ever experienced. She does things for me that she'd never consider for anyone else…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 07:22 PM
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He's not looking for monogamy, just to kill some time and have fun while he's at it. He's made it clear, and her lifestyle changes were all made with full knowledge. Plus, he isn't exactly a "traditional" kind of guy - I think this foray into marriage is enough to turn him off of it forever. My point is, though, that while his situation was sucky and not super common, it does happen. Women DO turn off their libidos after securing marriage from men they aren't attracted to. We've known this parti…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 07:16 PM
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Yup, he became suicidal for the last 3 years. This was a man who is normally the life of the party and never gets down. Now that he's single, he's already found a nice poly girl and is banging her out 4x a week. She's dumped all her other boyfriends for him, at least temporarily. He's on cloud 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 07:09 PM
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Why do you think women value committment more than men? Because a man's commitment is signifying her value in her own mind. Any (even remotely not-ugly) slut can get most men to fuck her if she tries. Only a woman displaying value to a man will earn his commitment. Let me clarify: A woman values the commitment of a worthy man. She doesn't value the commitment of Billy "Comic Book" Beta at all, because he's a desperate commitment slut doing it for validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 07:07 PM
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They went to counseling, he had her go to doctors, tried all kinds of things. Turned out she was just obsessed with her boss and didn't want to fuck her husband. Sure would have been nice if she decided that prior to the wedding day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 07:04 PM
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Define "high value man". Explain how "high value men" who have slept with a lot of women, are supposedly not viewed by "high value women" as a bad LTR choice. And after to that, you posted: We like attractive men who are highly functional in modern society. I think you answered your own question. What do you think a highly functional attractive man is doing in his off hours? He's getting laid a ton.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 07:02 PM
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Because when pursuing a man, it's easy to get him to have sex. It's difficult to get him to commit. This is why men freak out when a woman says, "It was just sex" but women freak out when a man has an "emotional affair" without sex. He's giving away his commitment to someone else, which is taking it away from his wife, in her view.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 06:59 PM
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Best friend got bait & switched by tons of sex pre-wedding and none afterwards. Daily blowjobs, staying up all night because she had "sexsomnia" etc. They get married and they had sex less than a dozen times in 5 years. His divorce just finalized and he couldn't be happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 06:56 PM
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That's fine, enjoy being misunderstood and trying to debate dishonestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 04:56 PM
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Here's the thing about hot women: They get complimented for being hot all the time. If you're doing it, you're just dogpiling on and getting lost in the background noise. Compliments are great. Complimenting women is great. But don't walk up to that HB9 at the club and tell her she's beautiful. She's heard it 10 times just tonight already. You need to set yourself apart and not appear to be one of those thirsty betas that are orbiting her, showering her with praise for being hot. Valid complimen…
/r/askTRP15/09/16 04:47 PM
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Next time, try not changing someone's words and then calling them out for it? You completely changed the definition of what was being said, and I don't really feel like that's appropriate in a debate setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 04:41 PM
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It is super heavy reading, especially the early chapters.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/09/16 04:39 PM
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So force others to propose alternatives if Chipotle is what you crave.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/16 04:34 PM
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The fact remains that using the word "should" implies a moral imperative. Really think about it and you will likely reach the same conclusion. For an interesting discussion of the word "should" as manipulation, see "When I Say No I Feel Guilty". If you want to not imply what goes with that word, then you should attempt to communicate more clearly. If you don't care, don't be surprised when people misinterpret you or think you're moralizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 04:21 PM
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The viewpoint regarding high N-count in TRP is similar to insurance formulas assessing amount of traffic accidents. Someone who has multiple accidents is likely to get into many more in the future. Someone who has never driven before is an unknown quantity. So you apply magnitude of risk x average occurence of risk. Yes, some of those new drivers will turn out to be terrible drivers. Every slut was once a virgin. Every perfect susy-homemaker was also once a virgin. However, a virgin is more like…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 04:19 PM
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I'm a married RPer, and both my wife and my N counts are well above average. I don't care. Why? Because it is very, very clear to me that my wife wants me and only me. Yes, we both slept around quite a bit in our youths. No, that doesn't bother me. When we found each other the sex was mind blowing and we decided we should stay together. However, I found a woman that loves me and desires me. Not my money (good thing because I didn't have any when we met), not my status (again, didn't have any), n…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 03:54 PM
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I'm just making you aware of what you are communicating, because I don't think you mean to be moralizing/manipulating. If you do mean to, carry on, by all means.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 03:48 PM
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Should is still should.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 03:24 PM
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Wow, did you miss the bit about my wife? Besides, getting approached doesn't mean they know I'm married. My wedding ring doesn't look like a wedding ring, and I wear it less than half the time because it irritates the shit out of my calluses. The AP thing... well, my wife told me one day, "You're kryptonite for all women over 30," which I think she meant as a compliment (she's in her late 30s). I'm social, I'm happy, I'm successful, and now that I'm in shape again, I'm pretty good looking. I can…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 03:21 PM
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I disagree. "Get kicked out" is an observation of what likely happens. Should is stating what happens in an ideal (to you) state.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 03:17 PM
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Yup, I have 5 kids, 3 of them girls. My oldest is in his early teens, and we literally had a sit down discussion where I told him, "You're reaching the point where your business is your business. You don't need me for everything anymore, and that is cool. I'll still be here anytime you do need me, just let me know." Every single discipline problem we had with him has vanished in less than 6 months. His grades are perfect, he's putting forth the effort to help out with his siblings without being …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 03:15 PM
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I think all humans shit test, not just women. Think about joining a new job on a new team. You're going to be constantly socially evaluated. How you respond to jokes, how you speak, present yourself. Who you defer to, and who you don't defer to. Your assertiveness, humor, capabilities, and other qualities will all be tested by your peers, superiors, and subordinates. If you fail, your standing and role will change over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 03:06 PM
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I was raised to be a theological anarchist and abandoned the theology bit in my teen years. It's not really right or left, but I tend to vote left, even though I don't feel like government is legitimate, since I have to deal with reality and not my idealized world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 03:03 PM
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I was falsely accused 20 years ago for kissing a girl. She said no, I left. That was all that happened. For 2 years I dealt with the fallout of a dumb girl trying to ruin my life over nothing. It happens. It happened without cause other than she was angry that I wasn't exclusive with her. I ended up moving to Texas to get away even after I was legally cleared (by multiple witnesses) because the hit to my reputation was impossible to get past.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 02:58 PM
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My children are their own people. Once they hit about the age of 13, you can't truly control your children. You have to put in the legwork to earn their respect before you need it. Once you have earned it, they tend to listen to what you say, even if they don't follow your instructions exactly. They are individuals, after all. Set a good example. Hope they follow it. If they don't, well, shit happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 02:13 PM
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Disagree. I used to wear metal t-shirts, heavy jeans, and an oversized coat every day. I'm thin, but it looked awful. Now I wear v neck shirts that fit, thinner jeans that show off my butt a little bit and I look so much better just from the changes in clothes. I still have my old clothes and did some comparison photographs. Weightlifting has made me look slightly better than I used to when I am in my old shirts, but new clothes that fit make a huge difference. Edit: an example
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 02:10 PM
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I've never been turned off by a woman's sexual history, or found it unattractive. That said, I understand why many men do consider it in their decisions about whether or not a potential partner is suitable for a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 01:59 PM
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And lobster boy had a family before he went to prison. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 01:57 PM
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Napoleon was a beta bitch with Josephine. But he was Alpha as fuck with Marie Walewska. Look up his time with her for the other side of him.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/16 01:52 PM
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No worries, I was just telling you that you were correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 09:38 PM
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You claimed that managers who make discriminatory hiring decisions SHOULD get pushed out. Actually he said they "get" pushed out - there was no moralizing in DP's statement, only a statement of occurence. "Should" is moralizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 09:33 PM
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STILL not providing any content.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 09:29 PM
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We've had long discussions on this topic and she says that it is: She knows how she feels but she doesn't know how to put it into words.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 09:28 PM
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I did give you one, and you didn't like it, mister mysterious sphinx of mystery who won't even offer one. Funnily enough, my answer is the only one that a single person can implement to make a difference in their own life (exit the system and start their own).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 09:17 PM
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I find that men in their early 30s tend to "fill out" better than when they were young. Beards come in thicker, fuller. They find a clothing style that isn't a teenage clique cliche. They have become established in their careers, and so gain confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 09:16 PM
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And you still haven't said any of them. I'm so glad you're here to not contribute at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 09:06 PM
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I notice you still haven't presented any ideas of your own in that thread, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 08:58 PM
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It was a hotly contested suit, and she spent less than 1/4 of what her ex did (his new wife's money, actually).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 08:54 PM
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I'm BMI 22 and a man, and I still have stretch marks on my thighs from when I gained 60 lbs in 2 years (post surgery). That shit just never goes away.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 08:51 PM
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My wife is in her late 30s and lifts 3x a week with me. The difference in her ass is amazing. Her boobs lifted more in 6 months of less than 3 hours a week of lifting than what the plastic surgeon proposed to do for thousands of dollars. She's had 5 children. She looks spectacular. We do eat pretty healthy, but that's both of us contributing to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 08:49 PM
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I don't know that they are all that different. She seems to not be able to explain it to others. I've definitely been so angry I couldn't speak about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 08:38 PM
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But you probably do know why you're upset or angry in those situations don't you? Yes, but have you ever been so mad you break shit? Punch a wall? Go for a run? Lift super duper heavy? Because you don't want to / can't talk about it? That's what I compare it to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 08:30 PM
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Family member spent over 50k on custody suit, as a woman. Dragged out for nearly 2 years, almost went to trial.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 08:25 PM
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different interest groups are ideally represented proportionally so that their interests are promoted by someone with the same set of interests Except that you can't have representatives for different "proportions" of different axes. For instance, in America, we are divided up by geographical location, not gender or race (although race is often correlated to geographical location). In other countries, representation is in proportion based on political party (see the Israeli Knesset). If you want…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 08:21 PM
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Well yeah man, don't you get out of bed extra early to economically oppress every other race and gender? Speaking of, don't forget that you're signed up for bringing the Jello salad at the next Patriarchy meeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 08:17 PM
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All doctors should be men imo Disagree. I went through 2 male oncologists before I settled on my permanent one - a woman. She understood what it is like to live with a chronic condition forever from a young age (she had MS), while the male doctors were telling me my symptoms "weren't going to be that big of a deal" - which would have been true if I was 65+ like most people who got my cancer and treatment. I was 25. 60 years of debilitating symptoms was NOT my idea of good treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 08:15 PM
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Come on down to Texas. The synagogues are nice, the whiskey is good, the weather sucks, but can it be worse than Philly?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 08:10 PM
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And there's plenty of women who have achieved it that don't deserve it - like the woman from the EpiPen controversy. Daughter of a governor, given a degree she didn't earn, running a division of a company for her own personal gain. Hell, it's like she learned from watching the men who did similar things!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 08:07 PM
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Any part specifically? Is it my wording? Your OP is written very stream of consciousness without any evidence. It's just "I say women define things this way without examples - therefore I am right, what do you think?" but about 100 times longer. Why else would there be a need to speak metaphorically if not because the idea or concept is not well defined where it can be straightforwardly expressed? Probably for the same reason I want to go drive my car really fast with my music all the way up and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 07:56 PM
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More like no sympathy for those that aren't part of our group/niche/clique. Think whatever you like. Basic social skills are just that - basic. I was pointing out that those that are actually shunned are shunned due to lack of social skills. The most prevalent cause of that I have witnessed is being on the spectrum in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 07:51 PM
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I can't help you here, your OP is very confusing. I can't say that I've seen my wife define things as "what they are not". She does get emotionally overwhelmed at times and has a hard time defining what it is that she thinks or feels and tries to communicate through metaphors quite a bit, but that's relational and not exclusionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 07:23 PM
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Most people shoot for maximum pay and prestige. Yes, balanced by the level of hardship they are willing to or capable of tolerating. I think you're right on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 07:18 PM
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Do you not believe women reject men for being too short ? I have seen short men get rejected certainly. However, I know 2 men under 5'4" who are womanizers of a greater magnitude than most people I know (including myself in my prime and I'm 5'10"), so I can't believe that shortness is a hard stop on all sex. Especially since my buddy Randy, the shorter of the two, is routinely hooking up with models, marketing girls, booth babes, etc. and not because he's providing - they just love his attitude,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 07:04 PM
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I know dudes who have scrimped as dishwashers to start their Paleta or hot dog stands. They're making as much or more than me without the degree, STEM career, etc, just by working their ass off and hustling. It's not easy, but the option is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 06:45 PM
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This was my response as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 06:32 PM
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It's fantasy according to you. It's reality for many of us. If you're not going to answer, I'm done with this thread. I asked you first, AND I gave you an answer. Quit playing games and trying to be /r/iamverysmart.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 06:18 PM
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I'd start my own business. If they don't want me, fuck 'em. I'd prove them wrong without their support. Hell, maybe after I succeed they'll pay me lots of cash to buy my business and then I can retire to a private island. Now quit playing stupid games and tell me your ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 06:12 PM
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neither of these girls is out with Chad You met her on Tinder and you don't think she's out with anyone else? Your self delusion is very strong, friend.
/r/askTRP14/09/16 06:10 PM
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If you've got great ideas, just spit them out and don't play rhetorical games with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 06:08 PM
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You are so wrong it is painful. Incels exist because they either Hold unreasonable standards (want women out of their league) or Refuse to put in the necessary effort to be successful with their chosen target market. Nothing else. No one owes you anything in this world. You have to earn it. The rest of us learned that, you should too. If you really did get dealt a shitty genetic hand, that sucks. But it's not anyone's problem to overcome but your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 06:03 PM
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And how exactly would you make that happen? Quotas? Because that totally would reduce resentment and bigotry, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 06:00 PM
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No, I want a peer reviewed paper on incels responses to suggestions by females, across multiple generations of men. You should get educated because of what you want. And you might as well be my son, since your responses are shifting blame to everyone else to do things for you instead of behaving like an adult and taking ownership of your problems, wants, and desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:52 PM
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No, but there are other recourses for that issue - already established avenues of DOL and labor lawsuits.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:50 PM
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I don't get mocked for shit. I have a fun hobby that I do in my spare time and I'm good at it. Nobody makes fun of me for running a D&D&Drinks night every few weeks. Nobody makes fun of me for going to boxing classes. Nobody makes fun of me for having taken 7+ years of dance lessons. Nobody mocks me for having a fun, rewarding life. My wife loves that I play MTG. She joins in on the D&D&D nights (when I'm not having men's group D&D). Does playing cards make pussies wet? Not really, but I don't d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:50 PM
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Dude, lobster boy got laid. He had children. He was an abusive alcoholic who murdered someone, and still pulled it off. Does becoming appealing to women take work? Sure. So does taking a shower every day, or learning a skill to make enough money to subsist on. You're going to find no one who sympathizes with not wanting to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:46 PM
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Sounds like you had best get working on your doctorate then, son.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:17 PM
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I grew up in a KKK infested area. They gave out free beer at their rallies to bulk up attendance. I never went, but my brother did (his alcoholism was worse than mine). Maybe incels just need free beer to be loved?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:10 PM
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No, they need to work hard and earn sex their own way and they'll be cured of the idea they are worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:09 PM
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Do you not think society may not also shun them? Not saying this is 100% or anything but a contributing factor. Dude, I've been a competitive Magic the Gathering player for 20+ years. Believe me, I've met a ton of incels, even made friends with a few of the more tolerable ones. They aren't getting shunned for their virgin status. Virgin status never comes up in conversation (why would they bring it up? I'm not going to ask either). Their virgin status is the result of the shunning for lacking so…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:07 PM
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I am of the opinion that incels, betas, and most women all need the same thing: Assertiveness training. 99% of the problems that we discuss here in PPD, TRP, TBP, MRP, incel, etc all boil down to the fact that people are conditioned or prone to behaving in a nonassertive manner. Training and counseling to truly assert their value, desires, opinions, and abilities would resolve the vast majority of issues for all involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:04 PM
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Funny, my wife dumped her female OBGYN during a high risk pregnancy for a male OBGYN due to qualifications. Gender had nothing to do with qualifications. He was an expert on that particular risk subject, so we went to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:55 PM
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No, we assume that hiring based on diversity = unqualified. Because qualified = already getting hired unless there is a culture of bigotry or discrimination, which is already illegal in a hiring environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:53 PM
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Interestingly enough, I was the scapegoat of my family and have never minded playing the role of "the bad guy" to anyone who needs someone to blame. I just move on with my life and ignore them - I don't care what they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:50 PM
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I don't know man, a pumpkin butt is not desired in men. Source: best friend had pumpkin ass in high school and was the butt of many butt jokes by girls who wouldn't fuck him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 10:05 PM
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Agreed, the only women I slept with who were not seeking commitment were either: Poly (back before that was a word) or Cheating with me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 09:58 PM
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Same situation here bud, thanks for the recommendation!
/r/askTRP13/09/16 09:54 PM
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Are you vaping flower or liquid? If flower, what model do you use? My ariser solo takes like 10+ minutes for a bowl and that shit is just too long.
/r/askTRP13/09/16 09:16 PM
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I had a talk with my wife about innuendo about 2 years ago (when I started doing TRP). I explained that me saying, "I'll give you a piece of meat" when she just said something like, "Can you get a piece of meat out of the freezer?" isn't me actually propositioning her, it's me making a fucking hilarious high school joke. If I want to fuck, I'm a bit more clear, and I don't do it right before dinner with all the kids running around. Smooth sailing ever since, and yes, we're fucking at least once …
/r/MarriedRedPill13/09/16 08:28 PM
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And is your thrusting game weak, Mr. Ectomorph?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 08:25 PM
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Roman Catholic church. A big chunk of these lessons came from small inputs from my insane mother and extended family. Many came from adults that we associated with, or teachers, or priests. When having a conflict with a girl, the girl was never wrong, even if she initiated the problem - she "couldn't have done that". It was impossible for a girl to be bad, malicious or evil according to authority figures. The same was pointed out in sunday school lessons - only men were evil - the only women poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 07:30 PM
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I can see dread having a use case for certain women, just not my current one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 05:52 PM
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Wow, it is not even worth continuing this conversation with you because you clearly live in your own little world and not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 05:51 PM
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Because everyone is lying when they're trying to hook up. They're trying to look cooler than they really are, they're trying to be prettier than they really are. Once you've done so, you have an image to maintain or admit that you were being not totally honest. Getting to know someone is cutting through all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 05:22 PM
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Fair enough. To me, the definition of overweight/obese is fine from the CDC - BMI of 25-30 is overweight, beyond is obese. Aformentioned roommate's "fat" girls that he preferred were clearly obese. Even so, they had full range of motion and were not totally repulsive (probably 5'6", 180ish?). You start moving up into the 200lbs+ range with a frame under 5'8" as a woman and that's when a woman hits unfuckable for most men, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 05:18 PM
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Right, so it is available as a tool. There's nothing to moralize about but on an individual basis. So why worry about what TRP is doing? They're not saying "EVERYONE MUST RUN DREAD GAME UP TO LEVEL 12 AND DEFCON 1!" They're saying, "here, some dudes found this works, use it if you want." I mean, why do you care what some internet dudes are doing at home/out and about? TRP has no major world influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 05:07 PM
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Right, my family didn't talk about sexuality. Catholics and guilt and all that. Marriage WAS sexuality in our community. At 13, my father handed me the 1980s version of this book. That was the total of my family's discussion of sexuality. Combined with shitty abstinence sex ed, I didn't even know that vaginas were different depths/sizes until I experienced it first hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 05:05 PM
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I was taught to be nice all the time and suppress sexuality, because women are perfect and would pick me as a husband for being nice. You know, after I became an adult and had a job and all that other bullshit. Fortunately I'm a bit too rebellious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 04:50 PM
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Nope, that guy has been posting in /r/fitness on and off for years. He's making really good gains, and hair color does darken at the end of puberty. My brother gradually went from white hair at 13 to very dark blonde/light brown by the time he was 26, including his eyebrows.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 04:48 PM
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I was taught that women are moral and good creatures. I was taught that you should never sexualize a woman without her express permission, and that I should be "nice" to all women regardless of their behavior. Essentially, I was taught that I should be a nonsexual being around women. By the time that I was 16, I realized all that was bullshit and my father was a huge womanizer, so I took after him. I still applied those weird fucked up rules to any woman I wasn't sexually interested in until rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 04:46 PM
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Actually that's the position of TRP. TRP doesn't have a ton of, "everyone should believe this" but literally the 2nd rule of TRP is: No moralizing Nothing in TRP prohibits you from having and following a code of ethics. You're welcome to discuss why certain morals or values might exist, or their benefit in the context of strategy, however arguments that stem from morality (i.e. this is evil, therefore) are strictly prohibited. So the tool is not something to "moralize" about within TRP. It is so…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 04:42 PM
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You're a northeastern female Jew. You're going to have a different experience. Southern ex-Catholic here, confirming Pem's viewpoint. We got these messages from our parents, other kids' parents, church, schoolteachers, etc. Never as part of a formal education, but just as daily conversations, directions, etc. In the bible belt, the Catholics and Jews hung out together, but everyone else was verboten, more because of how the protestant kids would treat us than that our families didn't want us to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 04:32 PM
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As a man who actually did get approached, women don't approach hardly ever. When very few do, and one does who is very attractive, you turn it down out of wariness. What is this woman trying to do? This smells like a scam or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 04:31 PM
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I had a similar experience as a child, with an added dose of "Women are wonderful and perfect" at church. Just confirming your viewpoint for all those here who don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 04:28 PM
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Yup, look at the tush on this guy. A fine male behind being worthy of admiration and a goal is nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 04:23 PM
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SAHMs are looked down on even by feminists. By feminists, but not by successful men looking for women for LTRs/Wives. Aside from a minority of BBW fetishists, no one actually thinks fat women are attractive. Disagree, there are pretty overweight women out there. My old roommate loved fat girls and thin girls both. There's a difference between fat and tremendously huge landwhale. Nope, being anorexic levels of skinny is not considered attractive on women either. He didn't say anorexic, he said "V…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 04:20 PM
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You'd be surprised what fat does to a man's face: https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/51foii/clinically_obese_to_shredded_transformation/ http://i.imgur.com/0cXs0DZ.jpg This guy looks like Jean Claude Van-Damme when in shape, and Jonah Hill when fat. I'd say that Example 1 is probably reasonably handsome in shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 04:16 PM
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Fruit is mostly fiber. The problem comes in from HFCS. So long as you stay away from that and you're not pounding down more than a pound of fruit a day, you should be fine.
/r/TheRedPill13/09/16 04:10 PM
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The secret to meeting women while out at a bar is twofold: Make friends with EVERYONE (especially men, doubly so for the Chads) Don't be afraid to talk to ANYONE (especially women, doubly so for the Chads) When Becky shows up but Chad isn't into her or after someone else, she will look for someone who is getting social proof from Chad. If your group is already hanging out with him, guess who that is? This is assuming you and your buddies aren't Chad. Step by step: Go to the bar, get some drinks.…
/r/askTRP12/09/16 09:55 PM
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You've got a point, but don't you think that the guy making 100k a year will attract certain low class women (who very well might be attractive) compared to the poor schlubs they're used to?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 09:49 PM
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Yeah, go check out your local high end cocktail bar. The fat girls <vanish>. High end steakhouse in the evening? 60%+ attractive women. Unattractive women are very post wall. Health food place? About 50/50 - women who are already in shape and those who are trying (but haven't figured out to eat only 1 portion yet). BBQ joint, buffet, fast food? Landwhales - landwhales everywhere. I did hit a taco joint and was baffled by the quantity of attractive girls there one day - not a health chain at all.…
/r/TheRedPill12/09/16 09:31 PM
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I don't actually think that this is a case of women being better elsewhere. I think this is a case of moving to a new location turning you into a relative Chad compared to the locals. In Colombia, you're the equivalent of an NBA player. Move there and have your income dip? Well... that might not work out so hot, yeah?
/r/TheRedPill12/09/16 09:28 PM
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Money makes it much easier to provide the emotional rollercoaster that women looking for casual sex are attracted to. A woman who is out for casual sex is looking for an experience. She wants to have a fun, exciting time with very little direct stress. Money makes that trivially easy. Expensive cars tend to drive fast. Men with them will often drive with that convertible top down. Men in expensive clothes (and visible money) have access to the more exciting social spots. They'll shell out easily…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 09:18 PM
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I'm over 35, married, with 5 children under age 14. I work every day M-F. One night a week is card night with my friends. If you don't have any, find a league or a bar that has poker nights. You'll make friends there if you're not a toolbag. One night a week is night out with my buddies. Primary has been my best friend for over 20 years. He has a huge social network as well, so we're never short on company. Sometimes we smoke weed and play music at his house. Sometimes we go out dancing/bar hopp…
/r/askTRP12/09/16 09:09 PM
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Looking back I have usually enjoyed it - unless the woman objectifying me is very unattractive. Story time! Senior year of high school, invited to a week-long spring break beach bash by 3 girls - 1 hottie who had a bf, 1 hottie without bf, and 1 fat girl. I went, and had a ball - thought that hottie without bf was into me. She was - but it turned out she offered fatty the chance to hook up with me first. I turn in early on night #2, wake up to fat girl trying to climb on top of me. I wriggle awa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 08:40 PM
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Nothing is worth dealing with a fucking vegan in my life. Vegetarian was bad enough.
/r/TheRedPill12/09/16 06:23 PM
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My wife records my weightlifting for this purpose when I'm out of town. Deadlifts are her favorite, followed by overhead presses. I don't know what that means, but there is my datum for your study.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 05:41 PM
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Yes, I've been playing a game for the last few months, that I call, "Spot the hottie." I look for men who are more attractive than me (via prevalence I am trying to pin down my actual numeric rating just for giggles) and I look for women that are bangable to get an idea of their commonality (and age spread - I'm in my late 30s, and there are some post wall women that have maintained well). You'll get WAY better results at a chipotle than you will at a BBQ joint. It's super interesting to compare…
/r/TheRedPill12/09/16 05:28 PM
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Disagree, not all chads are rich, and their status costs them nothing - it is an asset procured for free/fun. Source: I had a terrifying realization over the weekend that I was a nerdy chad in college when my friend reminded me of all the girls that would booty call me without any effort on my part.
/r/TheRedPill12/09/16 05:25 PM
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Yes they can, there is certainly increased risk of health problems for mother and baby as well as fertility issues getting pregnant. However, it definitely happens.
/r/TheRedPill12/09/16 04:18 PM
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You go to bar. You get drink. You talk to everyone around you - men, women, pet their dogs if they allow dogs in the bar. Hang out, play darts, watch a baseball game, laugh at your new friends' jokes. Guess what? Your new friends have friends, and when they show up at the bar, you get introduced. Congratulations. Social proof, women introduced to you with no approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 04:01 PM
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Seems like they are enjoying their lives unlike the rest of the guys who spend their nights in nightclubs trying to get some tail How do all these people have a bad time at the bar? Go, drink, laugh, talk, meet people. Not hard. Make enough friends and you meet girls without even having to hard approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 03:51 PM
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It's easier to sell to a repeat customer than to find a new customer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 03:38 PM
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We're not trying to pick up women inside the TRP sub. Just like a locker room - no girls, be as negative as you want. In the real world, TRP bro better be positive, or else he's failing one of the first rules of How to Win Friends and Influence People.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 03:37 PM
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If the red pill worked, why isn't every guy using it? It's unpleasant to start with. It isn't very popular or well known. There is quite a bit of negativity written about it. It is not easy to apply. This is like saying, "Women clearly want rich wall street bankers, why aren't all men rich wall street bankers?" Because not every man can be a wall street banker. It's difficult, there's an element of luck involved, and it doesn't appeal to many people (enough to justify the opportunity cost). If s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 03:34 PM
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Because ugly people are invisible, so it isn't even part of the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 03:18 PM
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This never even got on my radar, honestly. I wonder what that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 07:08 PM
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Agreed, my wife has short hair, piercings, etc. and is an anti-feminist. Yes, she had short hair when I met her. No, it hasn't always been that way. She's also in great shape - 5'8"+, 140lbs, yuuuuuge boobs (that might be the 5 kids and breastfeeding though).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 09:39 PM
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I don't look at what "should" be, I look at what is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 09:25 PM
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Oh totally agree. Sex is fucking great. STDs suck, but don't be a dummy and the odds are in your favor. MGTOW is a bunch of scaredy-cats. I also don't really identify them as part of TRP, as they drop the most important part of it - sexual strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 09:24 PM
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Not particularly, given America's voting winner take all voting system.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 09:12 PM
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Yes, condoms reduce risk of transmission. What's your point? Those are still real diseases with real debilitating effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 09:11 PM
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Actually what I do defines who I am, barring genetics. (Born a male human, will always be a male human) If I complain, I'm a complainer. If I build a house, I'm a builder. If I don't want to be something, I just don't do the things associated with that. Don't want to be a lawyer? Don't practice law. Don't want to be a whiny bitch? Don't whine, and don't act like a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 07:50 PM
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Herpes is a damn sight different than HIV, Hepatitis, drug resistant Gonohrrea (fuck spelling that word right), or cancer causing HPV.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 07:47 PM
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std's are extremely risky Aren't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 07:39 PM
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Girls got beat up for showing ankles in 1997? Man, I must have missed that when I was at the Chemical Brothers show fucking some girl, or hooking up with 2 girls at a time after school. Girls are the same now as they were then. Pop stars have always been slutty. Madonna hit it big in the 80s. Britney's first album came out in 98, and that was some pedo level shit. Nobody was telling us to hide our sexuality back then more than they are now. The religious right was less powerful in the US in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 07:34 PM
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I've known only a handful of women who watched porn or sports with any regularity. I'm old - social media didn't exist then like it does now. We had myspace. A bit of a different animal, to say the least. However, I doubt women in the late 90s and early 2000s were really all that different than today.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 07:17 PM
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I agree, but I also grew up Catholic and know that abortions are not for everyone. I also know (since I have 5 kids) just how awful the thought of giving one away into adoption would be. Human females are wired to make and keep babies. One time is still a mistake in my book. Multiples are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 06:49 PM
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I know that women are individuals. TRP accounts for that, but it focuses on size of market share/penetration. And no, it's not that I think one woman says she doesn't like X and another woman does that it's hypocrisy. It's when a single woman tells me she doesn't like X but gets tremendously aroused when I do it that I know it is hypocrisy. They lie for reasons we don't really relate to as men. They lie because they don't realize they're lying most of the time. They lie because they are testing …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 06:44 PM
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It is a little bit, actually! The secret is to have irrational self confidence and learn to read body language and other nonverbal cues. They tell the real story when words are lies. In fact, ego will make you worse at this! You deal with it every day and don't think about it. Everytime a girl slaps your arm and says "stop it" when they mean "please don't stop it" is the same thing on a smaller scale and slightly more obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 06:34 PM
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You might be unattractive to her, but you will never know if you don't try harder than you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 06:24 PM
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There aren't two guys. There's one, and she's trying to make sure he's man enough for her. This doesn't make any sense. Congratulations, TRP is that way, if you want to learn more ----->
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 06:22 PM
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because why would she lie to herself and to the guy she's attracted to. Because it's a shit test, dude. She's testing him for assertiveness. "If I tell you I don't like muscles, will you leave me alone? If so, you're not displaying enough persistence, assertiveness, and gumption to deserve me." You've talked about being fairly successful with women if I remember right, you know that it happens all. the. time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 06:22 PM
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"Naturally" in that the outcome is chosen without additional known outside interference, not some evopsych nature. If you go through that list, very few are for MALE nurses, they're just nursing scholarships in general (not exclusively for men). Many are for military recruiting or specific ethnic groups. In fact, there's ONE listed that requires being a male, and it offers an essay scholarship for both men and women as well! American Assembly for Men in Nursing Please try again, this time with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 06:14 PM
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Oh my god, this is the best comment I've ever seen you make and I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 06:08 PM
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u/Heathcliff-- is a dude, do you think he's a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 06:07 PM
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Sounds like you fell for the "listen to what I say" test instead of the "observe what I do" reality, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 05:46 PM
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Women deserve compensation for the burdens which nature imposes on them Can you elaborate on this burden, please?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 05:42 PM
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and support programs that encourage women to enter lucrative male-dominated fields. If a woman doesn't naturally want to work in a field, why offer incentives? Where are the male nurse and male daycare teacher support programs?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 05:36 PM
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She was on hormonal BC on and off for years, but we switched to IUD after the last baby. Politically? She votes Democrat these days, but was Republican prior to Bush 43. She's a commonsensalist, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 05:32 PM
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I disagree. I've always been the man with the brain. Yes, I got lots of girls with my brain, and it served me well. However, once I started lifting again, my wife (who has always loved my brain) is now giddy like a schoolgirl over my improved body. Given enough time, you can do both. There is no exclusionary principle here. That said, there are women out there that only want one or the other, and if you're chasing those, specialization is key. I don't change who I am for women, though. I do it f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 05:23 PM
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Average? That dude is ugly as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 05:07 PM
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Socialize regularly in gender-balanced groups and meet new people. If the gender ratio is slanted 10:1 towards men, don't even bother. Disagree, I met lots of girls at Magic tournaments, D&D groups, etc. You just have to be brazenly ballsy. Edit: and have better game and social skills than everyone else there, which isn't hard in those environments.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 05:02 PM
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This is gold man. Super easy way to differentiate that appears to have about 90%+ accuracy.
/r/askMRP09/09/16 04:50 PM
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I've covered my 5 year relationship with that girl in detail in other comments, you're welcome to trawl them. Essentially we were both pretty fucked up emotionally by our families and treated each other terribly. My wife? Incredibly superior work ethic. Super sexually adventurous (with me) and excited. Incredibly reliable and communicative when I ask her to be, but doesn't badger or nag when I am not being communicative. Interesting comparison between the two: in both cases we have/had a Dominan…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 04:38 PM
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It's interesting, because of the macros, protein and carbs contain the same concentration of calories (4 kcal/g) of macro (higher overall as meat has very little fiber), while fat is higher caloric concentration (9 kcal/g). What I have noticed in my documentary watching (because fuck reading books on hunter gatherers when I have technical journals) is that men do the dangerous jobs of food production while women do the nondangerous jobs. So the women gather, the men hunt. Women weave, men scale …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 04:32 PM
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The hard decision is the timeline to short on, honestly. Will they drive this shit into the ground in 3 months, 6 months? Or will it take 1-3 years to crash & burn?
/r/TheRedPill09/09/16 03:53 PM
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This is great. Make your changes. Keep your mouth shut about your position. When she asks you what the fuck is going on, my answer was: "I realized awhile ago that I was unhappy with myself. When I was younger, there was a man I wanted to be. I've decided to become that man."
/r/MarriedRedPill09/09/16 03:49 PM
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Let's talk about privilege for children real quick. So I have a bunch of kids - 3 girls, 2 boys. My oldest is a boy in middle school. I have a girl who is now in elementary school. We'll skip any of the grades that the girl has not yet attended. Elementary school life for boys: Accomplishments ignored by teachers Reprimanded and disciplined for the exact same behavior as his sister Social behavior is deemed "disruptive" Injuries are ignored Parent/Teacher conferences are incredibly confrontation…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 03:11 PM
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Which is why my over 35, punk rock wife with chronic resting bitchface and very aggressive work manner has been promoted 3 times in the last 5 years, more than all her coworkers in an all female department with all female management all the way up to COO?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 02:56 PM
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Restrooms for my gender will be cleaner and are more likely to have flowers or other decorations. As someone who worked retail in my youth, this is sooooo wrong. Women's restrooms are fucking disaster areas, reminded me of the bathroom in SAW.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 02:51 PM
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I went to bed early last night and woke up with my wife riding me in the middle of the night. Is that rape? Because it was awesome, and we do that in our house all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 02:28 PM
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Simple. "Single mothers are trash/scum/whatever". Alright, let's accept for a moment that previous behavior is potentially indicative of future behavior. If a woman has 1 child and a reasonable explanation, no problem. Everyone makes mistakes. Repeated mistakes are where I draw the line. Extra points if she hasn't fucked over the father and/or if he's a pretty cool dude. A woman with multiple (non twin/triplet) children as a single mom? Never been married? Multiple fathers? Check the fuck out. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 01:46 PM
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Me. I loved it, they're my preference. Ended up engaged to one, but the relationship was toxic. Married a different one - more punky, but still nerdy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 01:41 PM
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I meant any others, you silly goose.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 09:58 PM
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Hunter-gatherer societies really are egalitarian, though. A woman is listened to as respectfully as a man. Her ideas are judged on their merits. Not just that, there is no hierarchy, no boss who can tell anyone else what to do. I haven't studied hunter-gatherer societies much, but this doesn't sound accurate at all from what I've seen in documentaries. There tends to be a hunt leader and I've never seen a doc with a woman who led men in that type of society. What don't I know? Do you have a reso…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 08:32 PM
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Plausible deniability? If your girl witnesses you flirting, she knows. What are you going to do? Gaslight her? You can try and A&A it, but if she saw it, that isn't going to work the majority of the time. Don't start DEERing (DEER - Defend Explain Excuse Rationalize). My situation might be different than yours - I don't really want to lose my wife to a dread fuckup. She's awesome and we're heavily invested into our family and relationship. Since you're not married (don't get married), you probab…
/r/askTRP08/09/16 08:17 PM
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I don't know that your claim here is accurate - if it is permitted by both the state and religion, why wouldn't muslim women use birth control? Link discussing this here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_planning_in_Iran Fascinating stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 08:03 PM
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Hah! Thanks. I'm just a family man with no plan, plugging my way through this weird wild world and trying to make sense of it all while having a good time. If you're ever on your way to Texas, PM me and we'll arrange a beer if you end up in my neck of the woods.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 07:47 PM
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Fascinating. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 07:45 PM
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If by "strong feelings" you mean "possessiveness over their resources" then I agree. The man in this case isn't a person - he's objectified. Holy shit, is the whole "sexual objectification" thing just projection from women who objectify men they aren't attracted to?
/r/TheRedPill08/09/16 07:41 PM
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Ah, so you're in the miami equivalent area? I agree that wealth tends to lead to health. I see the same thing here in the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 07:37 PM
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Female attraction isn't about turn-ons, it's about turn-offs. The "default" setting is for a girl to not want a guy, whereas the "default" for men is to want women. Guys' brains subconsciously look for reasons to want a girl, whereas girls' brains subconsciously look for reasons not to want a guy. Isn't this self contradictory? Woman is not interested in any man by default. When she meets men, she focuses on reasons to disqualify them (turn offs). If she's already defaulted to non-interest, why …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 07:29 PM
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Interesting people don't apply the same logic to taxes. What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 07:25 PM
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Great explanation, thank you. So essentially you're looking for someone who can find the beauty in things? I also have a thing for dancers and I know lots of straight male ballet dancers (I am related to one semi-famous one).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 07:23 PM
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Like boxing - I like watching it, and I like doing it. I'm a welterweight/middleweight fighter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 07:22 PM
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Honestly I have no idea. I feel like I just smile real goofy at people and they like me? My hobbies aren't anything super interesting. I talk too much about my children. I talk too much in general. I laugh too often at everything, but especially my own jokes. I never talk about my work, because most people find it boring (very dry very niche technical field). I enjoy my work, but I'd hardly call myself "passionate" about it. I suppose things I am passionate about are: Family History Games that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 07:12 PM
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I'm big on making her go crazy from sensation. Blindfold, have her stand up and/or secure with ropes from above so she can't sit/kneel/lie down. She has no idea where you are or what you're doing. Touching, stroking, slapping, etc are all great in this scenario. I usually take my shoes off and will touch my foot to hers if I want her to know I'm nearby and step away just a bit if I want her to be clueless. Also, do not underestimate facefucking. Get her go ahead first, but it's fantastic.
/r/askTRP08/09/16 07:08 PM
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lack of artistry Can you elaborate on this a little bit, please?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 06:53 PM
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No one is fat where I live and hardly anyone is a gym junkie, tbh. Yes, but you live in Europe, right? Having a more natural diet and a pedestrian based infrastructure tends to result in a healthier and more fit populace compared the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 06:52 PM
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Yup, my wife always smells good to me, barring just post outdoor workout. She always smells like cookies and it gives me the weirdest but most awesome boner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 06:50 PM
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I'm a man but I love John Goodman. Everything about that guy is awesome and screams "perfect dad" to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 06:48 PM
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Agreed. I was successful with women and got married to an awesome one. Turned into too much of a beta schlub in my late 20s due to health problems and having my wife handle shit while I was down & out. I forgot how to be assertive, confident, and own my shit - I also got lazy and fat. TRP reminded me of why I was so successful in my youth. I overcame the beta/bluepill brainwashing before through lucky choices and happenstance. This time it's on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 06:41 PM
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This response is spectacular, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 05:14 PM
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Simple - don't provide. It's fine if women know about your wealth, job, home, whatever. She might ride in your car, or have sex in your bed, or eat food you buy. That's a far cry from being able to access those things on her own. Don't hand out your things or your time, or make her feel like she has any claim to them.
/r/askTRP08/09/16 05:02 PM
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Short answer: No. Long answer: Noooooooooooo. Real answer: Women are not all attracted to the same 'archetype' of man. There's a commonality of traits across basically all desired archetypes, though: Physical fitness (some variance in desired maximum/minimum level here) Articulation (high variance based on articulation of the woman - ghetto-ish girls don't value classy articulation as much as a WASPy girl in the Hamptons, but they do value wit and speed of response) Height (pretty universal) Den…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 04:13 PM
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abusive C/FM dynamics What is this referring to, please? Edit: Nevermind, Captain/First Mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 01:54 PM
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All these rape analogies are bullshit. They all focus on activities that are not normally consensual. The fact is that sex is unique in that it is done by almost every adult human with another adult human in a fun and consenting manner - that's the normal interaction. People aren't seeking out partners to hand their wallets to. They aren't looking for someone to have a nice friendly bar fight with. But everyone is looking for someone they want to fuck, women included. So what am I getting at? Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 10:01 PM
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As a long term married man, let me give you this advice: The secret to dread is to make it look like you exert no effort. Don't flirt with other women - get them to flirt with you. If your girl sees you actively flirting, it backfires.
/r/askTRP07/09/16 08:56 PM
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You're 20 years old and don't think you can work and go to school at the same time? Find a roommate. Get a nightshift job. Pay the rent, go to school in the daytime.
/r/askTRP07/09/16 08:25 PM
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Then what do you mean by "intelligence"? Book smarts? Knows a bunch of shit? Well read? Knows how to talk about the shit he knows? I find that this generally means 'articulate' in this situation, but I'm a man, so what do I know?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 08:15 PM
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I notice you don't talk about your attractiveness. She's acting like she wants to be with you but not fuck you. Are you 100% fuckable? Do you lift? How much? Are you fat? Are you practicing dread? Cohabitation for 4 years might as well be marriage from that perspective.
/r/askTRP07/09/16 08:09 PM
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Yup, it's what I plan on teaching my daughters. I've taught all my kids that guns are always loaded. I see no issue here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 07:53 PM
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Either you approach each gun as loaded, or you don't. Gun safety courses are pretty consistent on that point and if you want to use that analogy you need to be consistent too. Right. I approach each gun as loaded, but in reality many are not. Women should approach all men as dangerous, even though most of us are not. That's not inconsistent. I have no issue with AMALT, just like I have no problem with AWALT - it's a good rule of thumb. I'm not going to accept that. There is no reason for a moder…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 07:51 PM
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I felt the same way 6 months ago. It was lingering insecurity from childhood abuse for me, but hopefully yours is... easier to deal with.
/r/askMRP07/09/16 07:49 PM
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The problem then arises when Red Pill also gets extremely offended whenever women begin to assert anything about being suspicious of men as potential rapists. In other news, not all TRP members are the same person, more at 11! Actually, you've misjudged what I said before. You missed a specific thing that is very important: ideally a woman would practice all of these, but if she fails in one, there are multiple backup safety rules, that if followed, will greatly reduce her exposure to sexual ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 06:44 PM
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Find the source of your insecurity and kill it with fire (metaphorically). I've been doing this TRP/MRP thing for awhile now. I started reading about 2 years ago and implementing about 1 year ago. I didn't really grasp my insecurity and what it was doing to my behavior until very recently. I did this: Speak your wants out loud to yourself. Not the wants you "should" have. Not the wants you want to have. Your actual desires. Be honest with yourself. Do it alone. If you can't do this yet, then you…
/r/askMRP07/09/16 06:41 PM
1

You're getting stuck on better vs. worse. That's not going to help you. I'm giving you pragmatic advice here, not making judgements. It doesn't matter if they're better or worse than you. They are having success in an area that clearly you want to be successful in. You're an intelligent girl, when you want to be successful at something, what do you do? I know I look at others who are doing what I want successfully and emulate what they do! How is it my fault if guys are too chicken to approach? …
/r/askTRP07/09/16 05:51 PM
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Take your time and digest slowly. I do one new change at a time per aspect of my life. Diet change? Wait til that sticks (for a week or so), then fix the next bit. Read one book and really digest it. Then do the next. Don't slam them down like you're a 400 lb hambeast at Golden Corral. Taste them, savor them, come back later and taste them again. It's been nearly 2 years now for me, and the changes are staggering. But I don't look or feel all that different week over week. But then I check my wr…
/r/askMRP07/09/16 05:45 PM
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I am indeed making that case. Because whether or not a gun is loaded (whether or not a man is a rapist) you still are responsible for your own safety precautions! The fact is that there are assholes out there. There are murderers, rapists, and other very very bad people. They exist. Their numbers are not overwhelming, but most of them are opportunists. So by denying the opportunity to a rapist, that rapist can't rape you without significantly endangering himself. Just like not all guns really ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 05:37 PM
2

There's a difference between being aware of a danger and actively taking steps to avoid a danger. Knowing my handgun is loaded is being aware. Taking steps to avoid danger from my handgun is as easy as practicing proper firearm handling methods such as: Always keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction Trigger discipline Assume it is always loaded You get the idea. The interesting part is that even if you violate one rule, and don't assume the weapon is always loaded, you still don't point it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 05:15 PM
1

Let's get something straight: it doesn't make you a bad person. Sexual selection has little to nothing to do with the "goodness" or "badness" of a mate. It has to do with compatibility and appealing characteristics. Simply put, your "objectivism" is arrogance. It might be deserved, you really might be all that and a bag of chips. But you're still going to come across as arrogant to a man who might express interest in you. Most men aren't in favor of approaching arrogant women, because arrogant w…
/r/askTRP07/09/16 04:18 PM
1

Hi! I've dated girls of all races, and your problem is definitely not your appearance. Judging from your post, it is almost guaranteed to be your attitude - you already "know" that you're better than those other women. You talk about your intelligence and your studies before anything else - not an attractive attitude in a woman, and I'm a man who loves smart women. Let me throw a couple of suppositions at you. Do you: Feel like you're better than those "other girls" but people just don't appreci…
/r/askTRP07/09/16 03:46 PM
2

Learning how not to repeat is more important than succeeding in the first place. You won't make those mistakes again, right?
/r/TheRedPill07/09/16 03:41 PM
4

If you have a problem with your name, use a nickname. You can affect one on your own. My last name is impossible to spell or pronounce, so I only use it in my professional life.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/16 03:36 PM
6

I am very pleased that you are able to recognize where you fucked up and owned it. Good work.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/16 03:29 PM
2

I don't know any men who have had just moderate success with women who see women as morally superior angels. Hi, I'm bornredd, and I was raised this way and have been successful with girls since I was 14 (late 30s, married for over 10 years, 5 kids, n count well over 20 before I got married at 25). I blame my insane Catholic family and being raised in the bible belt/shitty public school system for that brainwashing. Now you know one. Can you abandon your clearly incorrect position now?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 02:29 PM
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I had an open relationship in my youth and it was a grand time. She helped me meet other women and we'd fuck around a few times a week. Granted, there was no pretension of long term commitment or marriage involved, just FWBs that were into multiple partners.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/16 02:04 PM
2

You're goddamn right. Remember the key to TRP: it doesn't matter what other people think about what you do. So long as it works for you and your partner(s), then do whatever you want. I run into a lot of people who shit on me for having 5 kids. But you know what? I pay for all their shit and my wife and I have a great relationship and love raising them, and the kids are super happy, so fuck all the haters. It's no different than being into gender-weirdness (which I also am) - make your choices i…
/r/askTRP07/09/16 01:14 PM
1

But, men having morality and honor on average makes them more reliable. Who are these men, and how is morality and honor measured? What? It isn't? We just assume people have it? What a useful thing to base your views on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 09:03 PM
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Who cares if you're gay? It sounds like you're into it and having a fucking great time. Ride that shit balls to the wall until it ends. Quit worrying about labels - that's all beta validation bullshit anyways.
/r/askTRP06/09/16 09:01 PM
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Mindfulness is what you are looking for. When you're peeling potatoes, don't think about what you're doing later. Just peel the fucking potato in front of you.
/r/askTRP06/09/16 08:58 PM
1

honor and morality Social construct with no way to measure. Results in essentially useless nonmetrics. In a world of constant surveillance, why bother with eyewitness testimony at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 08:53 PM
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Oh man, kids today. Son, sex with women is great. Eating pussy is great. If you're actively trying to avoid it, you're the one doing it wrong.
/r/TheRedPill06/09/16 08:05 PM
3

Good post. Easily achievable goals, laid out in a way that could use a touch of formatting. I like your fashion/style tips, and your viewpoint on socializing.
/r/TheRedPill06/09/16 08:02 PM
1

If that's the case, I don't know what to tell you. Could be psychological, or your dick might just be super unreliable. Talked to a sex therapist?
/r/askTRP06/09/16 07:34 PM
1

Yup, after major cancer surgery, the doctor said no sex for 6 weeks!!! We made it 17 days, was literally getting ridden with my hands holding my staples in place. Same thing happened post birth - no sex for a month. She was begging after 2 weeks while shoving ice packs in her panties.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/09/16 07:32 PM
1

Man, that's tough. Talk to your doctor about getting ED meds to start. If they work, ask the doc what that indicates.
/r/askTRP06/09/16 07:29 PM
1

Because here in TRP, we are never concerned with what feminists and/or TBP is doing to the world we live in, right? Pull your head out of the sand. Focusing on your actions and yourself first is great, but don't ostrich your head right into the ground.
/r/TheRedPill06/09/16 07:17 PM
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Did you kiss her? I know that sounds weird, but kissing tends to evoke tremendous physiological responses. Since you've had it work a few times, but not others, definitely sounds psychological. Find a girl to make out with, then fuck her. See if it works.
/r/askTRP06/09/16 06:55 PM
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You're right, it isn't the same, but that does not mean that adult relationships must be based on being equal to one another. You have, however, indicated that relationships shouldn't be based on one party being "lesser". If neither party is "lesser" than by definition, it MUST be equal. Equality is how my wife & I organized our relationship, but that's our choice. edit: the person objecting to "lesser" wasn't you. Carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 06:40 PM
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You are talking like you believe all relationships need to be between equals. I love my children, but I would never think that they are my equal so long as they are children. Similarly, I don't belittle them in any way. Love doesn't necessarily require equality. Perhaps your version of love does.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 05:17 PM
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If you're going down this road, then there are more groups. Children are human. Developmentally disabled adults are human. Are they fully equal too?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 04:31 PM
2

I had similar symptoms to Crohn's disease from my cancer and subsequent treatment. It was incredibly painful and debilitating, but I would still rate a hard kick in the balls at least ten times worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 06:25 PM
2

The first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 03:03 PM
1

The way a woman's mind works, it isn't insecurity. Remember: women want what other women want. That's preselection. That's the hive mind/herd mind/consensus seeking woman. How many girls want Justin Bieber? He's an idiot, he's in decent shape, but he isn't super masculine attractive like Henry Cavill. They find him attractive because other girls find him attractive. That's what you're doing with dread. You don't want to make her too insecure or it will backfire.
/r/askTRP02/09/16 02:54 PM
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You can't negotiate desire, so if you don't find a girl attractive you just won't. However, as the old adage goes, they're all pink on the inside. Sex is sex, and the individual matters far more than the race. I've dated black girls, and had a great time. I don't prefer them, and I don't find many of them VERY attractive, but the ones that are make me weak in the knees.
/r/askTRP01/09/16 07:52 PM
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Some characteristics are just more attractive than others. Blue eyes are a good example. They really don't confer any evolutionary advantages, but they do draw in mates with more success. I am of the opinion that white women tend to look younger longer than most ethnicities (except asian women). Also, white women tend to have a different body structure than other races (particularly Africans/blacks), which many people find attractive. Lighter hair is a sign of youth, as hair tends to darken with…
/r/askTRP01/09/16 07:49 PM
1

Generate insecurity in whose mind and about what?
/r/askTRP01/09/16 07:44 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2l7pqe/the_12_levels_of_dread_the_rules_for_any_long/ I use dread up to level 7, because I'm of the opinion that hitting on other women in front of her is disrespectful as well as unnecessary when we are having amazing sex 1-2 times a day. However, the point of dread is not to pick up other women. It's to demonstrate your value to your current woman. She'll respond more positively to you. The trick is to make it look like you're not trying. If she see…
/r/askTRP01/09/16 07:28 PM
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Wait, so if suddenly your girl is offering up the pussy like a buffet, you want to bail? What? Remember what dread does to women - it makes them want you more.
/r/askTRP01/09/16 06:34 PM
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Witnesses are what saved my ass 20 years ago. False accusation of rape on school grounds after hours at an extracurricular activity. Police bring me in for questioning, I tell them the truth. She lied - there was no sexual interaction other than 1 kiss. She gave me a hard no, I walked. Fortunately 3 people witnessed it (that I wasn't aware of) and cleared me with the cops, but my social reputation was ruined until I moved to another state.
/r/askTRP01/09/16 06:32 PM
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Replace it with other stimuli. I quit gaming in January of this year after doing it nonstop for over 25 years. It was a huge part of my social life and weekly schedule - we're talking high end MMO raiding, multiple real life meetups of guilds/corps/etc. each year. I couldn't just drop it and leave that gaping hole in my life. Plus, it's the basis for my worst dopamine addiction. So, I stopped all multiplayer games where I can communicate with others. I cut it back to single player only games or …
/r/askTRP01/09/16 05:27 PM
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I'm a recovered cheater, but I'm a man. I'll tell you why I cheated and how I hamstered it away. No claims that this is women's perspective, but it's mine: I always cheated. I'd meet a girl, we'd go out a few times, and we'd become gf/bf as the script told me. The problem was, I was unhappy with this arrangement. I'd meet other girls while I was out, I don't flirt on purpose, but people tell me that being social is perceived as flirty, so maybe I do. I'd meet other girls and hang out with them a…
/r/askTRP01/09/16 05:19 PM
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Given what's in play at the moment A declining support of Feminism The Regressive also starting to get called out Coupled with The rise of The MRM Red Pill MGTOW PUA Alt-Right New Atheism Gamergate Plus an honorable mention to Metalgate and Sad Puppies Have made the whole gender/cultural narrative to a tipping point. This reads like you're having a stroke. Learn to use punctuation, please, or your blog links will never get clicked.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/16 05:04 PM
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545a: wake up, sex with wife 6:15a: hop in shower 645a: leave for work 745a: arrive at office 745a-5p: work, sometimes will hit lunch with coworkers, reddit in downtime 5p: drive home 6p: arrive home 630p: dinner with wife & kids 7p: play with kids and get them ready for bed 8p: lifting on lift days 845p: hang out with wife on front porch and smoke (happens at 8 on not lifting days) 9p: hang out with wife and wind down 10p: sexy time. Sometimes I go to a boxing gym from 5-6p. I go play cards 1 n…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 01:51 PM
1

Calories are one thing, macronutrients are another. Protein is more rare than carbohydrates in nature, and thus more valuable. Fishing/hunting = protein. Foraging = carbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 01:39 PM
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If you're sleeping less than 5 hours a night (11p-345a), it's no wonder you've got problems.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/16 06:15 PM
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I'm not saying he didn't. I'm saying that a man who was already talking about breaking up with his girlfriend could probably play act well enough that she bails in 24 hours. It isn't difficult. Bring up money troubles, go all whiney bitch (beta is the term here), and watch her pack her shit and go.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 09:47 PM
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What? Overhears, offers unsolicited advice. Advice is followed, because it appears to be a perfect solution to problem. Dude goes to the same coffee shop, likely because he frequents it. Runs into same guy, who probably ALSO frequents it. That's not weird - I go to the same taco shop on the same day of the week at approximately the same time EVERY WEEK barring some unexpected appointment. Advice worked without a hitch? Maybe because it was good?
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 09:15 PM
1

Francis McComber is a hell of a story indeed.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 08:44 PM
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Niceness is "not offending someone". Kindness is "helping someone". You decide which is better.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 07:58 PM
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I'm in my 30s and get blatantly approached by women 45-50 constantly. Just take it as a compliment and move on. If you are legitimately getting hit on by women in their 20s as a teenager, go for it.
/r/askTRP30/08/16 07:16 PM
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Agreed. It's also essentially a full treatise on RedPill truths. A narrator that cannot fuck is the one-eyed man in the kingdom of the blind.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 06:55 PM
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Download it to your phone, select photo in gallery, select options, then "details". You might have to select "more" prior to details depending on your OS flavor.
/r/askTRP30/08/16 06:15 PM
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Because they're making 77% of the same money? Or because they collected cash from their ex-husbands?
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 05:55 PM
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An unvirtuous man cannot complain about other people's unvirtuousness. Actually he can. Will he experience large amounts of cognitive dissonance? Probably. Is he logically correct? Likely not. However, if he doesn't want to date a former for-pay escort of any type, that's his decision and no one else's. You don't get to dictate other's lives by virtue of making judgements upon them.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 05:52 PM
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Agreed, if you throw in something about your crush in 2nd grade, I think that this will defuse StoicCrane's concerns.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 05:48 PM
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The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemingway
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 05:38 PM
1

Physical doctors are going to give very different advice from emotional/mental doctors.
/r/askTRP30/08/16 05:34 PM
2

Now? You quit thinking about her for a few days. Go do something fun instead. You've been stewing in this proverbial shit pot for 60 days and it is time to take a break. It doesn't matter if you want to do something else, you need to do something else. u/from_the_ashes_me is right, you should go talk to someone professional. While you're waiting for your appointment date to come (because no therapists ever have openings today) put something on your calendar every day that forces you to interact …
/r/askTRP30/08/16 03:44 PM
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The only two things I could agree with is social proof, no woman wants to be approached by a loner. Maybe for you. I go to the bar by myself all the time to smoke cigarettes and watch baseball. Women love to get approached by me when I'm alone. Great style and confidence can display social proof without other humans around, even in a location where you have never set foot prior.
/r/askTRP29/08/16 03:53 PM
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I'm 3 years out from talking to my parents because of my mother. It has taken me this long to finally let go and move on, but it feels great to finally get moving. For real, go read When I Say No I Feel Guilty, and revel in how it's a laundry list of manipulative mother tactics in the "what not to let people do to you" sections.
/r/TheRedPill29/08/16 02:07 PM
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Texas is good, depending upon how OP carries himself. San Antonio and Corpus Christi have like 6% black population and essentially no anti-black racism due to the population being majority hispanic, although CC is pretty small population wise (but it has beaches, so...). Houston you'll run into some, but way less than somewhere like AR, MS, or AL. Austin is pretty not racist at all these days. DFW is more hit or miss, but the metro area is so big I don't think it will really impact your success …
/r/askTRP26/08/16 09:44 PM
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He still is, but brash and arrogant does NOT mean "angry and mean".
/r/TheRedPill26/08/16 07:20 PM
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isnt all men trained to be assertive? Look around the world and tell me all men are assertive - because most aren't. I look around and see "men" living soulless lives because they aren't willing to push others for what they want. Women are more prone to community focus rather than individual, and our society teaches girls to not speak up as children because, let's face it, kids act like assholes, so we teach them not to be assholes. Girls don't want to upset the group, so they stop pushing.
/r/TheRedPill26/08/16 04:15 PM
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Organizing for confrontation requires assertiveness, which is trained out of most women at an early age.
/r/TheRedPill26/08/16 02:22 PM
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Yup, there are habits that just take more willpower and discipline than you have developed willpower and discipline muscles. Loading up one thing at a time is like ramping up with weightlifting. Eventually you're getting up at 4am, meditating, lifting, eating great, a machine in your business, and doing everything you want to do in your life. But you get there one little step at a time. Once a week is great - it means you get to improve 52 things a year. Shit, maybe I should write a book about t…
/r/askTRP26/08/16 03:32 AM
1

Yup, the first thing that jumped out at me is that he thinks that jobs are zero-sum. They're not. Just because a woman gets a job, doesn't mean that a man can't. Sure, there's opportunity cost there for that specific position, but the additional workers in the economy will create a greater monetary velocity. That, of course, is assuming all the additional monetary velocity doesn't shoot it right into the 1%'s pockets.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/16 10:16 PM
1

CEOs are stockholders too, usually. They are part of the company ownership. They're also part of other company ownership most of the time.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/16 10:11 PM
1

Yes, but only if you're built like he is. I'm a much thinner frame (6.5" wrists), and that outfit would look like Obama in dad jeans on me.
/r/askTRP25/08/16 07:59 PM
1

Fair enough, he looks pretty good there. I was thinking more like this.
/r/askTRP25/08/16 07:54 PM
1

Some see the money now, no one sees ramen and walking only for the year it took to save a down payment, the 189 day smiling schedule with 14 hour days to buy a car, or the similar sacrifice to leave the navy to work in Toronto. This. Nobody sees the scrimping and saving and throwing $1500+ a month at stupid credit card debt or student loans. Nobody sees that I've had my car paid off for 7 years and would love a new one, but that money is going into the emergency fund. Nobody sees the meal planni…
/r/askMRP25/08/16 07:02 PM
1

Dude, I had pediatric cancer. Underweight, fucked up teeth, huge Jew like nose, super scrawny build. I weighed 107 lbs at 25 (I'm 5'10). I still got laid at 14, racked up girls all through school and college (except for when I was in the hospital of course). Got married at 24 to a tall stacked redhead with a clue. We have 5 kids. My female clients try to fuck me all the time. Fixing my teeth took years (knew it would be a problem so worked extra for money for braces in my teens). Spent years dow…
/r/askTRP25/08/16 06:52 PM
1

Might matter, might not. Lots of women think their friends are dumb for passing over a guy that they would like themselves. Some are so wrapped up in social circle validation that you'd be sunk. Go try it, find out, and report back.
/r/askTRP25/08/16 06:46 PM
1

Related to sugar baby trends, perhaps? Raise college tuition to unsustainable levels and instill fear in college aged Chads, reap the benefits as old rich guys and get "nice girls" to become call girls, essentially?
/r/TheRedPill25/08/16 06:09 PM
1

I'm not in 6 figures, but I'm close. My wife is within 10% of my income. I also live in an extremely low CoL area, so it stretches very far. There are tech hubs out there with reasonable real estate markets. You don't have to go to Seattle or NYC or SF or any of that. Austin's not too bad, some parts of New England, Atlanta, etc. There are tons of huge companies in weird middle states too, Illinois, Nebraska, etc. They are always on the lookout for top talent (Insurance carriers, various corp HQ…
/r/askMRP25/08/16 05:56 PM
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I might be heading into conspiracy territory here, but what if this is intentional consequences, in order to free up college aged women from their standard Chads (college atheletes)? Who is writing these zero tolerance policies? Who is lobbying for them at these institutions? Cui bono?
/r/TheRedPill25/08/16 05:38 PM
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It makes me wonder if all the aggression in the culture moved to the territory conquered by the vikings via settlement - it would explain the ballsiness of England throughout the late middle ages and into their period of world domination.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/16 05:34 PM
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I want to point out to the other readers here that this comment is excellent. Thanks, u/jb_trp.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/16 05:31 PM
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IT consultant
/r/askTRP25/08/16 05:24 PM
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So I had an LTR that was a virgin when we met (me 18, her 16) that lasted for about 5 years. You've got the chance to show her that frequent sex is normal and fun. BUT, the pain issue is a big deal. You have to get a handle on that. Things to consider: How big is your dick? Huge dicks are going to be more painful. USE LUBE. Explain that it is to help with the discomfort, it doesn't mean she's doing anything wrong or make her a slut. EAT THAT PUSSY. Very little will open up a vagina like a good t…
/r/askTRP25/08/16 04:15 PM
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So you love validation - so does literally every person on the planet! It feels great to be wanted. The question is, do you feel like you need validation? If you do, that might be a problem. Working out is great. If you're getting the results you want and you're enjoying yourself, have fun! But really, really think about why you want people to think you look good. Wanting to look good to get laid is a perfectly fine motivational tool. If you base your self image off of getting laid, you're going…
/r/askTRP25/08/16 04:08 PM
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Here's the deal man: You answer only to yourself. And to yourself, progress matters if you're trying to improve. However, everybody has off days. If my knees hurt too bad to squat, and I do it anyways, I often end up hurting myself. That's counterproductive to my goals of improvement. BUT, if I take an off day 1/3 of the time, I make little to no progress, and that is counterproductive as well. Is it the end of the world if I eat a pizza on Saturday? No. But if I do it every day, I'll be pissed …
/r/askTRP25/08/16 04:02 PM
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Basketball shorts, ugly ass baseball caps, and crew neck t-shirts? That ain't style. If Marky-Mark wasn't swimming in cash and status, his style would kill his game. His physique is pretty great though, especially considering his age.
/r/askTRP25/08/16 03:51 PM
2

"I'm an egalitarian" is my go to. I never elaborate.
/r/askTRP25/08/16 03:48 PM
2

Christ that is terrifying.
/r/askTRP25/08/16 03:08 PM
1

Yes, yes it was.
/r/askTRP25/08/16 02:30 PM
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Yup, I think this post may be the end of my tenure in PPD. I thought I was having interesting, meaningful, serious conversations about sex, relationships, dating, and social issues. But apparently all the TBP subscribers here think it's all a joke. So long yall, thanks for all the fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 09:59 PM
1

Different interests? Really it's the ability to deal with male social shit testing, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 09:55 PM
2

Troll post. No one can honestly believe that someone who is unconscious can consent unless it was discussed beforehand (which I have done in some... interesting situations with a few partners). Unconsciousness removes the ability to say no - so would binding and gagging to the point where communication is impossible. So: Don't deprive someone of the ability to say no, and so long as they keep participating, you should be golden. I've even met people who are way into bdsm (gags & bindings in part…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 09:53 PM
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unruly beard My beard is magnificently huge and a bastion of masculinity. Balding is also completely unrelated. If you're going to go into physical appearance, at least do it right. The correct answer is: Makes no eye contact Lack of shoulder definition Neck doesn't lead into traps Voice pitched higher than natural Very overweight Moves as though physical activity is abnormal for them
/r/askTRP24/08/16 09:39 PM
2

I asked my wife about my behavior when she met me, and she told me that one of the things that I did was to mercilessly mock people in a way that they didn't realize they were being mocked if this happened. They think I'm their friend, everyone else knows that I'm making them look like a fool. This was in the depths of my alcoholism, so I don't have much memory of specifics :(
/r/askTRP24/08/16 08:48 PM
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If you'll notice, all of them are from one poster - bigeyedbunny. Mods, can we clear these dumb posts out?
/r/becomeaman24/08/16 08:38 PM
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Yup, after the last baby we had, my wife was chomping at the bit to fuck even as she stuffed ice packs down her panties. The only way that I'd say it might be an accurate issue is if she C-sectioned the baby out - because recovering from surgery (fully) really can take almost a year.
/r/TheRedPill24/08/16 08:24 PM
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You just need to be yourself and gather followers for your behavior to become the norm: https://www.ted.com/talks/derek_sivers_how_to_start_a_movement?language=en The bit about the dancing idiot is grand, but very poignant.
/r/TheRedPill24/08/16 08:20 PM
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Had a female relative coal miner who died in the 90s. First day of work, dude pissed on her shoe, so she knocked him on his ass. 6', 250 lbs of asskicking Kentucky redneck bitch. Built like a man, acted like a man, and was cool as hell. She was also 1 in a million.
/r/TheRedPill24/08/16 08:12 PM
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If this is bad for male socialization, then people need to let the historically awesome all male boarding schools know, pronto. Since those schools have historically produced a disproportionate amount of rich & powerful men both in the US and UK... well, I don't think that's a legitimate concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 08:01 PM
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Both non-white and white men have a tendency to fetishize women of colour more than they do white women. Really? Because I find it easier to relate to women of color on an individual basis because I don't find them attractive. That's not to say I never have, I've dated all kinds of girls (white, black, native american, hispanic, jewish, asian), but I don't anymore. In fact, I rarely get an erection around girls other than my wife these days (and yes, I had my testosterone checked because of it).…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 07:44 PM
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Awesome, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 05:19 PM
1

Everyone says stupid stuff. I just had a client (man, three letter title, six figure income) ask me one of the dumbest questions I've ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 05:03 PM
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I self identify as an egalitarian and RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 04:50 PM
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But aren't you transitioning and that makes it an essentially unavoidable topic for new people you meet? Disclaimer: I have not read your posts/comment history and am completely ignorant as to your current status, I'm making assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 04:36 PM
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I'm a reasonable one - the ones that apply to me are 1-4, 6, and 8. I am also in the process of changing hobbies, but that's been in process for years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 04:32 PM
1

gross behaviours that seemed fairly aligned with RP Examples, please? I'm curious what qualifies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 04:28 PM
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Watching a woman slob my knob while reclining with my hands behind my head is one of the the best feelings in the world, so that won't work for me. Next idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 04:26 PM
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Hugely common in the culture I grew up in. European descended east coast Catholic communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 04:13 PM
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Well, to be fair, 'women said this about us!' 'women are making male sexuality out to be predatory!' 'women think we're all creepy!' Isn't ALL MEN. It's "unattractive men" who are creepy, accused of being predatory, etc. The same behavior when backed with attractiveness are clever/assertive/cute/silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 04:10 PM
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I think it is 100% possible for a woman to enjoy sex with a man as much as that man enjoys having sex with her. However, this will involve that man generating enough "tingles" (emotional state, obvious physical attraction, compatible body chemistry) for her to feel that way. My wife's sex drive is as high as mine with me. My ex (bless her alpha widowed heart) had a huge sex drive with me, but it is almost entirely gone according to her husband. I don't believe women enjoy casual sex as much as m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 03:51 PM
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INTP/ENTP I've been flip-flopping the E and I my whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 10:07 PM
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My wife does the finances because otherwise I have us cut so close to the bone that everyone is miserable. She's still responsible about it and has been for years.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/16 10:01 PM
1

Cool, thanks man!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 09:46 PM
1

I wrote a whole post about managing your personal energy and training to do what needs to be done. I checked your history and didn't see this, mind providing a link? Very interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 09:24 PM
2

Right, find someone else to ask for blowjobs from.
/r/askTRP22/08/16 08:49 PM
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Fellow xNTP (50/50 on I/E) here and I did pretty well myself in my single days.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 08:27 PM
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Spoken like someone who didn't have abusive parents. Abusive parents with money will absolutely use it as a means to control you with for the rest of your life. This OP hasn't specified if his father is or is not abusive, but your assumptions are not guaranteed to be correct in this case.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/16 07:50 PM
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Just write it off and quit talking to him. My mother is a mentally ill narcissist and no effort on my part can ever fix her. I tried, and tried, and tried, until I caught her abusing my children. You're young, I am assuming you have no kids. Cut him out now before he can do real damage.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/16 06:59 PM
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Like I said, check out leangains... they can steer you better than I.
/r/askTRP22/08/16 05:27 PM
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Hey man, I live in TexMex/Carbland also. TACO BOWLS TO THE RESCUE. What's the problem with tacos? CARBS. Get yourself a bowl. Put everything you'd put in your tacos in that bowl except the tortilla. EAT.
/r/askMRP22/08/16 04:56 PM
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You also are discounting the fact that 99% of men going into TRP are brainwashed into the pussy pedestal narrative. Simply put, TRP badmouths women because most of the new guys have never heard anyone (with any kind of real experience or authority) badmouth women. That it's the same shit that men do? So what? If a guy is convinced deep down that every girl is a unicorn, he needs to have that driven from him to see reality. He already knows men can act like jackasses - but when Christy McCockCaro…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 04:36 PM
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Actually it does work on older women, who are married to beta buxes and are looking for AF to cheat with in their spare time. Source: My career, where I'm approached regularly by super hot married women in their 30s-50s. But I don't shit where I eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 04:31 PM
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Drink tons of water. Most lip problems are due to dehydration. Once they're hydrated and healthy, you will have to break the cycle in your head of lip-biting.
/r/askTRP22/08/16 03:43 PM
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If you're flabby and looking to lose fat while still looking good, go on a caloric deficit while lifting (300-500 under TDEE). I did so for the first 4 months or so and the difference was amazing. In fact, I'm finally going on a bulk (caloric surplus) to build additional muscle, but it WILL increase your fat. If you really really want to avoid gaining fat while bulking, look in to a community like leangains - I can't due to health reasons.
/r/askTRP22/08/16 03:39 PM
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You're not. I find only about 1 in 3 women "passable" (not fat) and only about 20% are actually arousing. That is if we consider appropriate age range. I'm way pickier if we're looking at the whole of "women over age 18" - it's probably 10% or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 02:24 PM
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Women dig men who aren't afraid of conflict - one of my big attractors was always the amount of drama/conflict in my life, and the fact that I was nearly always the aggressor. My wife thought my constant battle with my mother was attractive. Women want a man who possess the ability to stand up to anyone - including them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 02:18 PM
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The longest I've ever gone without sex since I started was probably 3 months in my late teens, so I doubt I'm qualified to answer this question. That didn't seem long at the time. I've had times where I had to go nearly 45 days (surgery complications) while married, and that seemed like an eternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 02:00 PM
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Assuming the man came to me, I'd be able to tell very quickly if he: Is attractive or unattractive Has good posture Is in shape Displays confidence in his mannerisms Once those are assessed, then the assumptions can start.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 01:54 PM
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My wife's biggest selling points are, in order of priority: Perfect sexual compatibility with me (frequency, duration, physical compatibility, enjoyment) Incredibly strong work ethic Personal responsibility Intelligence Lack of manipulation She actually wasn't submissive at all for quite some time - I had to earn that, but now that I have, she's very submissive to me, not anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 01:43 PM
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I will admit that I've had unprotected sex with 3 people out of 25+. 2 were very long term relationships, and the 3rd was literally the hottest girl I've ever slept with. It was a choice made in the moment (didn't have protection handy but could have within minutes), and it was not wise, as she turned out to be 150% crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 01:40 PM
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Basically the same here. I have severe digestive troubles, but the high protein (.8-1g/lb per day) diet with mostly veggies has resolved about 75% of my issues. I still eat potatoes and sweet potatoes, avocados, fruits, and such. I hit about 100g of carbs a day at 155 lbs.
/r/TheRedPill21/08/16 07:44 PM
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That is a good point. And using hard metrics in soft skill areas like education seems to backfire horribly, at least as implemented thus far, so that doesn't seem to be the answer either. Although, championing a subjective field can be done subjectively as well, through case study exposure or survey based metrics. It's all marketing spin when you get down to it, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 05:38 AM
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I have been blatantly approached on multiple occasions, but not too many by total strangers. There was a girl in high school that was friends with some of my friends who I had met earlier that night for less than 10 seconds who made a point to find me in the crowd at a concert, bump into me, and kiss me, leading to a 3 month turbulent mess. Does that count? Not sober: quite a few. SMV: These days it is around an 8 according to several trusted super critical friends. In my youth my looks were pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 05:08 AM
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The missing piece is making human connections. I actually came to TRP already getting all the sex I needed and this is what I discovered as well. The need for masculine friendships is both the most difficult and most rewarding part of the whole experience for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 04:57 AM
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If you eat protein and vegetables, you will feel full longer. This will also contribute to building muscle and losing fat. Learn 4 different ways to cook chicken, and 3 for pork. Avoid carbs. Don't worry too much about fats if they're not transfats. Count calories. Use Myfitnesspal and weigh yourself every day. Adjust as necessary.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/16 04:05 AM
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I'd say that's true. Interesting take, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 03:29 AM
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It depends on the measure. I get angry far less often but for longer durations and more intensely. I would say that her # of emotional outburt x average length is much higher than mine. We've all got problems, and we're helping each other through them a little at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 03:27 AM
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I agree about other areas of the globe, but Theodora I was an absolute scandal in her day due to her past as an actress/courtesan. The classic western nuclear family has become the basis for the vast majority of civilization. I don't know why that is, but it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 03:25 AM
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I'm not disposable_pants, but I think the answer is: Men are more aggressive (thanks testosterone!), and are prone to using more thorough methods, as shown by suicide statistics. Besides, the vast majority of violent crime is committed by young men, who are chock full of testosterone. I've never seen a study done on partner murder by age of perpetrator, I bet that'd be fascinating. edit: don't forget that women are for more likely to commit domestic violence upon their partners, but they don't c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 10:00 PM
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This is a fascinating viewpoint and I would literally like to subscribe to your newsletter. If you don't have one, can you elaborate on: innate gender differences between men and women. evolution has guided human behavior in observable, measurable ways. most Red Pill reasoning is watered down to build these men up, and instill a sense of self-worth even when there are glaring inconsistencies to reach these ends Because I'm betting there is some real value in those positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 09:56 PM
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What do you think we do here in PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 09:53 PM
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I read it about once a week and have never noticed these posts. Guess I have to go reexamine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 09:45 PM
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Attraction is a big deal, but when your genitalia aren't the right size for one another, all the attraction in the world may not help. Source: once briefly dated a woman with an extremely small vagina who was super foxy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 09:40 PM
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They pretend to be work on becoming masculine to attract women but because they really aweren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 09:38 PM
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Do you really think that TBP would accept outside criticism in their sub either? That's why we have this one!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 09:37 PM
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It's not a question of if it can be "undone by mild dissent" - it's that you are dissenting in a place meant for other discussions. Tony Robbins wouldn't let some jackass run into his seminar and start screaming arguments at him - that's not what his seminar is for. TRP is to discuss amoral masculine sexual strategy, if your post doesn't fit in that, it gets deleted, full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 09:35 PM
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His point is: "I approach sex, like I approach anything that gives me emotional pleasure. As something completely unimportant, and not worth investing time in. At all." Emotional needs are important. If you neglect your own emotional needs, you become a fucking wreck.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 09:32 PM
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You're right. I also love advanced mathematics though, so it would make me sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 09:30 PM
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DifEq would get removed just like everything else off topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 09:19 PM
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Because the TRP subreddit enforces its boundaries. That's not being a pussy, that's keeping things on topic and neat and clean. If you watch the /new queue in TRP, it gets filled up with all kinds of bullshit. Horrible field reports, questions for asktrp, feminists trying to 'call out the misogynists'. The mods remove them all. It's not just you, snowflake. They do it to everyone, because the main TRP subreddit has a mission, and your crap isn't part of that mission. If it allowed anything, then…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 09:16 PM
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I do indeed possess LOTS of those red flags! However, the red/green flags for men are VERY different than those for women. Women select for social status, physical attraction, confidence, assertiveness, and ability to provide. Men select for physical attraction, submissiveness, suitability for child rearing, and dependability, in my opinion. My wife certainly wasn't wise in choosing me when she did. It worked out in the end though, so clearly her decision wasn't that bad. I had the social status…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 08:44 PM
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Can you give examples of a few "outliers" that you don't think are outliers and are dismissed out of hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 08:17 PM
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No problem, I got this: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3bvlik/question_for_women_imagine_if_you_found_out_your/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 08:15 PM
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Even the most pure hearted philosophy will have those that exploit it or misuse it (whether on purpose or not).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 08:12 PM
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Because you're dealing with deeply ingrained cultural bias at best, and deeply ingrained evolutionary bias at worst. Besides that, ugly, unappealing men are rarely included in the sex positive culture. Women in that culture still want to fuck hot, masculine, dominant guys (those with value), and who can blame them? And "Player" vibes might not be attractive to you, but they are to many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 08:07 PM
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P hates dat aura of certitude This... explains much about myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 08:05 PM
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TL;DR Married guy discovers negging.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 07:54 PM
2

Old Christianity wasn't BP or RP, those ideas didn't exist yet (society didn't need RP because it hadn't become BP). New Christianity is 100% BP.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 07:53 PM
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Good for you. Next time, can you tell us something worthwhile?
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 07:51 PM
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It also has to do with sexual availability. Most men are sexual available to most women. Most women are not sexually available to most men. So a man must display value to accrue said n-count (in the eyes of most people), whereas a woman simply needs to have low standards. It's kind of like a shorthand for preselection in the eyes of some people when it is applied to men. Men don't have eyes for preselection nearly as strongly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 07:47 PM
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Which do you think happens most often? Hard to say. I don't have enough data to make a meaningful statement on this. What are your personal experiences? I've never had an LTR "lose attraction" for me. Things got weird between my wife and I when we were both fat, but there was no sexual impact - it was likely fatigue (4 kids) and some broiling emotional issues. What have you heard from others, men or women? I hear a lot from men who claim that their wives don't find them attractive anymore. Howev…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 07:40 PM
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Like what? Like the basics of attraction. Like how to keep women interested. Like how to assess women's reaction to me. Like how to maintain attraction in a long term marriage. Like tons of things. If you really want to know, go read TRP and MRP. And you're sure that TRP is correct about human nature? No one can be sure their philosophy is correct. TRP is a portion of what I use to assess the world. Thus far, it's correct far more often than incorrect in my life. And in your opinion TRP is takin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 07:26 PM
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It's partially about motivation. It's partially about breaking things down into steps that can be easily digested and teaching that way. It's partially about understanding human nature. It's partially about a LOT of things. That's what makes TRP interesting to me. Human sexuality is a wildly complex topic. I "got it" when I was younger, but as I aged and got out of the game, I forgot what I knew and/or stopped doing what I did intuitively. It's a fascinating thing to study that has direct effect…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 07:09 PM
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Agreed, this is why I haven't dated in almost 15 years. Well, that and I'm in a monogamous marriage. But let's be clear, even in my pretty awesome marriage, there are still mind games going on from time to time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 07:07 PM
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And that is your prerogative. Fact is there are tons of men and women out there who play all kinds of mind games in dating. Many do it because they are unhealthy psychologically. Many don't do it on purpose. But they still do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:57 PM
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So why? Because it isn't obvious to many men. TRP lays it out in baby steps. It's just like everyone knows eating too much makes you fat. We all know it. But tons of people are overweight. Are they just dumb? Some people suddenly have a moment of clarity or motivation and lose tons of weight. Go look at the progress pics in /r/fitness - somehow those guys get to 300+ pounds and then get in shape. What convinced them to do it? It takes a proverbial "kick in the ass" - and that will vary from pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:55 PM
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If you don't think dating is full of people playing mind games, you haven't dated much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:39 PM
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Right on. I don't have a problem with my wife's n count - it's very similar to mine, which are both high (which still blows my mind that mine is high). I don't think that n-count is a major indicator myself. I have no problem with sex positive thinking, open relationships, or a myriad of other "alternative" lifestyle choices - provided that both partners go into it eyes wide open and consenting. My marriage is monogamous, because we wanted a stable base to raise our children in. I think it will …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:37 PM
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I'm not sensitive. I'm curious why you think anyone "Shouldn't" do something that is entirely within their own mind. If you don't care about TRP, why bother posting in PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:33 PM
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No, my point is that by demanding that others not systematize or generalize, you are the one impinging on others. Claiming that others "SHOULDN'T" is a classic manipulation technique that only works on unassertive individuals unless they have already consented to your standards. My behavior doesn't affect you in any way other than our interactions in PPD. If TRP bothers you, don't read it. It's not like it's making any political gains.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:26 PM
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That definition is going to vary from person to person. Some of us feel that children are necessary for a successful marriage. Some don't. I'm pretty sure we can all agree that a successful marriage: Does not end in divorce Does involve both parties loving one another Does not result in anyone feeling exploited or taken advantage of on a regular basis I'm sure there's more, but those are the super obvious ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:24 PM
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"WTF is wrong with you? How come you don't get this? Just... I dunno! Just... go talk to those girls! Just be with them! If they reject you, so fucking what? Just go find some other ones! What the fuck is so hard about this? I've been doing this since I was 11 years old! I just.... why the fuck can't you just do what I'm doing? Just... GO DO IT!!" To be fair, I'm RP and I feel this way about 75% of the time when I talk to people on asktrp or any incel. To me, the crime isn't getting rejected - i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:20 PM
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There's 2 things going on in TRP regarding N-count, in my opinion. 1) Men with little/no sexual experience are going to laser in on the fact that nearly all their potential partners are more experienced than them. This is scary to them. So that's why they chose that item in particular. 2) N count is the derivative of those other bad behaviors. Going to music festivals isn't a "poor decision" per se - fucking 5 dudes while you're there is by the aforementioned inexperienced men's standards. And h…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:18 PM
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Don't get caught up in the "offensiveness" - keep going. Pay attention to the headings, most of them are identical to what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:56 PM
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I feel like many women feel this way about unattractive men subconsciously and don't know why they have the response they do. Kind of like how I react to getting hit on by a really fat/ugly girl. "Um... no." There isn't any more reflection on the feeling. I don't about BP men though, other than "but my princess's fee fees" or maybe they are acting 100% in self interest by trying to kill competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:55 PM
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Really? Are you sure? Because it's everywhere (this one has links to archived posts).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:53 PM
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Why shouldn't people generalize or systematize human dating behavior, though? That's some serious push towards letting others control how you think and behave beyond "don't impinge on anyone else".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:51 PM
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What do you mean by "defect on them"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:48 PM
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To Blues, unattractive men should not be trying to figure this out. They need to know their place, and unattractive men trying to figure this out are clearly bucking against their societally- and genetically-imposed restraints. They need to stay unattractive, not attempt to improve, not attempt to breed, and just "go away". Besides, these are men who have a history of sexual and relational failure. To Blues, that's for a reason -- and that reason is they are genetic and social misfits who need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:47 PM
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Well, there's a ton of posts in TRP about red flags/green flags. I'll start with the positive ones (green flags), which in my opinion are: Work Ethic (#1) Responsibility (closely related to work ethic) Physical shape (if she eats healthy and works out, she's more likely to delay gratification) Generosity (towards the man) Conversations tend towards logical conclusions/ able to hold a reasonable debate Has hobbies Has friends that also display green flags Red Flags: Heavy drinking High N-Count (p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:39 PM
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True, however, enough people succeed in their first marriage compared to those on their 4th that a complete unknown is still a statistically "safer bet". It's all just mathematics - source: way too much actuarial science exposure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:30 PM
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Foreign country? Small town? Slut shaming is far more common in very traditionalist areas, particularly those with small populations.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 05:20 PM
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People see what they want to when they go outside, but when you break down in minute detail the steps that a system has to go through, all the ugly bits are shown clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:15 PM
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N count is an indicator of future behavior based on past behavior, just like charging more for car insurance for people who have been in many accidents. Just like marrying someone who has divorced 3 times is more risky than someone who has never been married, high n counts are the same type of risk indicator. Sure, that triple divorcee and you could live happily ever after and/or that never married girl could hate you and make your life miserable in 3 months. However, generally speaking indicato…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:12 PM
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Yeah, you'll see anger phasers freak out about sluts from time to time in TRP. Honestly though, those guys are freaking out about everything, so their input shouldn't be valued. They haven't grasped abundance mentality, and I think perhaps that is what puts an end to slut shaming. When a new guy thinks he's never going to get any sex, or good sex, he freaks out about the "unfairness" of it all - that a woman can fuck almost any guy she wants. You see this VERY commonly in the incel crowd. When a…
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 05:07 PM
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If you think TRP is shaming sluts, you're looking at it all wrong. TRP tends to love sluts, they just don't want to marry them. Outside of TRP, I don't see men slut shaming at all (those under age 40 or so). I have literally never heard any of my peers say anything derogatory about a woman due to her sexual history/partners, unless that woman has rejected that man, and then we're dealing with a poisoned well. Girls can just walk on the street and fuck whomever they fancy right then and there? I …
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 04:35 PM
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Yup, and girls think a 7" is 10" because their previous boyfriends convinced her that 6" is 8". Spatial awareness is not a female strong suit unless she has spent a ton of time doing woodworking or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 04:17 PM
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If you're really serious about this, I recommend reading dalrock's blog, he covers TRP from a religious standpoint very well on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 04:14 PM
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I'm not saying every ugly guy is getting laid. I am saying that your insistence that not being blessed with perfect facial features ruins 100% of your chances to sleep with attractive women is wrong. I know ugly men that get laid all the time. It isn't because they're rich (they're not). It isn't because of high social status (because they're not). It's because they're fun, funny, and know how to have a great time, and THAT is what girls like the most. Yes, with a 10/10 face, a man can land any …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 04:00 PM
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I knew it, but I didn't think it really mattered - I'd been married for over 8 years and had 4 kids. My wife had gained 50 lbs. What the fuck do I need to be in shape for?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 03:54 PM
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Sure it is, but TRP has the necessary motivational items for some people. For me, it was in MRP. There's a difference between nebulous, "don't be a doormat" and "own your shit, run your family, act like a masculine man again and your wife will love it." Guess what? She does love it. There's a difference between nebulous, "Exercise and lose weight - it is good for you!" and, "Seriously, muscles are one of the primary guidelines of attractiveness for women. Followed by lack of body fat. Even if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 03:01 PM
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Yup, both Austin and DFW are becoming mini-Cali. I hate it in both places. Houston and San Antonio are staying true. Corpus Christi will have great blue collar employment opportunities when the oil prices go back up a bit.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 02:50 PM
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I don't know, I've never had this problem. In my experience, if you fuck her good and make her orgasm daily, she never becomes repulsed by your touch. Maybe you aren't fucking her right? I'm of the opinion that this happens to men who never really captured their wife's attraction to begin with, or have become unmasculine to the point of unattraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 02:46 PM
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Seems like half the advice on there is act like someone you're not You are defined by your actions. Or, as I tell my sons, "You are what you do." If you make something part of your daily life, you become that thing. I may not know how to ride a motorcycle, but if I go out and do it a few times a week for months, guess what? I'm a motorcycle rider. I wasn't a weightlifter for years due to health problems, but I'm a weightlifter again. Does that sound like acting like someone I'm not? Or does it s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 02:42 PM
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You would think that, but the amount of times I've heard women tell a fat guy, "Oh honey, you're so sweet, just keeping being yourself and you'll find the right girl someday" is unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 02:38 PM
2

Am I genuinely happy? I think so. I've got the following going for me. I'll BOLD the things that are thanks to TRP: a great relationship with my wife (we were having major issues prior to me becoming more assertive again) a great wife happy children good career money's doing ok (full emergency fund in like 25 more days after years of crippling debt!) Thanks TRP for pushing me to set realistic goals! my health is pretty good (cancer is in full remission for 8 years now) the best shape of my life …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 02:33 PM
1

Maybe not, but what percentage need to succeed to be happy with progress? 1%? 10%? 50%?
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 01:12 PM
1

For 2 kids, I agree. For 5? 2 incomes is fine.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 01:12 PM
1

You believe what you want. I know you are wrong because I see it every single week of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 01:11 PM
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Not total - reread the study. They excluded minority male sentencing, throwing their findings HEAVILY into question. You can control for gender - OR for race. Doing both and whittling it down to n=72 was a poor statistical decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 09:51 PM
3

In America, the opposite is true. In their efforts to trim racial bias out of this Australian study, they've removed the likely higher male sentencing guidelines - aboriginals.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 09:50 PM
1

We could, my argument is that the policies aren't sound due to being discriminatory. Good talk!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 09:44 PM
8

Some are codependent. Some are their mommy's golden child. Some make money and do pay rent. Some sold it as temporary and their family doesn't have the balls to pull it now that it's permanent. And very few end up making enough money to buy their parents' house, let their parents live there rent free until they die, and then they own the asset (I've met 2 of these).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 09:42 PM
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I have an in-law who fits this profile. Very overweight in high school/college Never had a boyfriend of any kind. Confirmed lack of any kind of male attention by all her sisters (including one who was her college roommate) Socially awkward Very introverted Employed at the same office as her mother Didn't learn to drive until mid 20s. Is now 30 and finally is dating She finally moved out of her mom's house last year, has dated 2 guys (both awful betas) and comes complaining to me about how they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 09:36 PM
1

Some people need a motivator to get them through the beginning until the iron teaches the the real lesson: Struggle makes the man. In that case, I have NO problem with dudes lifting to land girls. They'll learn the truth once they get into it and stick with it.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/16 09:33 PM
1

Yup, dropped soda and lost 15 lbs in 2-3 months from that change alone. Was 1/3 of my total weight loss - all because of sugar water.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/16 09:22 PM
1

All calories are the same for the purposes of weight loss. 2000 calories of chicken breast and broccoli will result in the same weight loss as 2000 calories of McDonald's. However, you'll be far hungrier on the McD's diet, and you won't be able to build muscle for shit.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/16 09:20 PM
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Move away from California or New York or whatever. Raising 5 kids is doable in Texas on a 2 parent full time income including full time child care for 3 children simultaneously if you're not dumb. If kids are what you want, there's ways to make it happen and not break the bank.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/16 09:18 PM
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that is, for a guy who wants sex. Girls don't block sex, they are forced to hide their desires. By dads, by society, by priests, religion, husbands and orbiters. Really? Because all the slut shaming I see is done by other women. I mean, my dad did it, but he's in his 70s now, and none of my peers are doing it to their kids.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/16 09:16 PM
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And I disagree that the intent was not discriminatory. It was put forward in a politically palatable way to achieve exactly what has already happened. Those conditions were chosen because they favor women, not out of thin air or some sense of gender equal fairness in order to push the feminist narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 09:13 PM
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They are now de facto misandrist, just not de jure misandrist. If that doesn't matter, then does the opposite matter? Do laws that de facto discriminate against women matter, even if they don't by letter? If so, then why doesn't it matter in these instances?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 08:27 PM
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Eyes up, forward, and put one foot in front of the other. Focus on what you are doing now instead of what you did then. Review then from time to time to make sure you're not repeating mistakes, and then look forward again. The next one will be different. It's always different. It can also make you think less about the past.
/r/askTRP17/08/16 07:22 PM
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Zazie, OP never mentioned any kind of shaming in his post - where did this come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 07:12 PM
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No, not really anymore. That's why so many have them have been rewritten/revised in the 80s and 90s and even continuing today--because old school laws were too obviously and blatantly favoring women (if you don't believe me, google "rehabilitative alimony" and you can see a good example of the laws changing to work against outdated gender stereotypes). Also Jim Crow laws explicitly discriminated by race - so they are akin to early family laws, not the ones we have today. Maybe "no not really any…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 07:02 PM
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The de facto treatment is part of the appeal in passing those pieces of legislation. It is just like Jim Crow laws, but applied to men instead of minorities. Besides that, some applications of Title IX are ridiculous. I'm all for women's sports being supported, but men's sports have suffered strongly. Where is the boxing? Wrestling? Additionally, sports are to be supported on a basis of gender enrollment in the institution, not gender participation in sports. So ~60% women enrolled now, means lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 06:34 PM
1

The latter, by far. While I was falsely accused of rape in my teens, I don't personally know anyone else that has actually had that happen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 06:26 PM
1

The first recorded instance of "Women and Children first" was in the 1800's on a sinking ship. Perhaps, but in antiquity, extermination of all males over a certain age and enslavement/keeping all females and very young males was definitely commonplace. In fact, the only time I can recall deliberately NOT saving the women/children was Vercingetorix at Alesia, when he sent them out of the walls where they starved to death, and that was because he was worried that a loss there would destroy all the…
/r/TheRedPill17/08/16 06:16 PM
1

That's the conclusion I've come to recently. It doesn't seem kind to contact her and ask after all this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 06:11 PM
1

Well, the secret to assertiveness in the real world is to provide value to back up that assertiveness. I've worked with many very assertive women (insurance industry) and while there is the occasional dumbass who pushes back on them, if the woman is bringing in business, her assertiveness is not only accepted, but celebrated just like a man's (note that there's always someone who is an asshole to everyone - including men). So assertively displaying the value of completed work could lead to a red…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 06:03 PM
1

Mom doesn't see us anymore = Alpha. I'm unfamiliar with this trope, example for reference?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 06:00 PM
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I didn't understand it at the time either. Like I said, I'm pretty sure it was the emotional rollercoaster. That and I paid a ton of attention to her when she was around, and being an introvert, she wasn't really used to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 05:59 PM
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Sure dude, that's why my recently divorced buddies are uglier than I am and still pulling girls under 27 all the time while living in 1 BR apartments and driving sensible sedans (ok, one of them has a really shitty jeep that starts 2 out of 3 times you turn the ignition).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 05:57 PM
1

Agreed 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 05:55 PM
1

but high smv men for the sake of having smv are entitled to sex with hot girls. For free. Well considering you think I'm a 10/10 in the face even though I'm thin, I can promise you it ain't free. It doesn't cost dollars, but it isn't free. Girls don't care about social status. Excitment and fun? They have candy crush for that :/ I am so glad I have an accomplished woman like you to tell me that. Or maybe you're an accomplished romeo and have tons of experience bedding women? Maybe you should rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 05:54 PM
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Fantastic answer, thanks cryo! All of that stuff, plus slut-shaming, in my opinion just needs to be addressed with better sex ed, plus different representations of sex in porn and movies/TV/etc. That + time will hopefully bring about change, since it's largely a cultural problem. I agree that sex ed should be COMPLETELY revamped in the US. I'm in my late 30s, so maybe I'm out of date, but when I took sex ed, they literally did not teach us that vaginas are different sizes. Imagine my shock and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 05:50 PM
2

Why would men be entitled to sex from high SMV women without using commitment to get it? Should women now give free sex to men without expecting anything in return? Cads and players are providing something in return - social status, excitement, and fun. Provide those, and your issues disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 05:24 PM
1

How would I prove to you that I banged a lot of girls 15 years ago? You want their phone numbers or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 05:22 PM
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I found that JBY is common advice that was given to my less successful friends. I preferred to ask men who were clearly successful with women (my father, a couple of my uncles, a few other men) and as I got older, I got pretty good advice from lesbians. I do ask divorced straight women for marriage advice from time to time, because they know what caused their own divorces and I prefer to dodge known issues. I refuse to talk to divorced men about it, because their answer is always, "She just left…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 05:21 PM
3

So why not make up your own categorizations for women and develop a model to discuss?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 05:15 PM
3

What, we had a slut/anal phase, and I missed it? Those are two of my favorite things!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 05:13 PM
1

Good point, dr.
/r/askTRP17/08/16 05:07 PM
1

Growing it out from 3/8" on top. Up to about 5 inches long now, aiming for 7-8".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 05:06 PM
2

While I agree that there shouldn't be any discrimination in high level, information or social based work, and any woman or man who puts in the effort should be afforded the opportunity, what about other areas? Areas where pure physical strength matters (firefighters, combat troops)? Shouldn't those physical standards be consistent across genders? Or should any woman, even those who can't carry a full grown adult on their shoulders, be afforded access? If so, should physically equal men be permit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 05:02 PM
1

Hah, yes. We're normal people, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 04:56 PM
1

We started dating around 18 and I left her at 23. I know I had emotional issues. She may have, but none were obvious. I don't think she had a rescue complex - her first husband was the inheritor of a family business and had no major issues, and her 2nd husband started his own business (food truck) and other than some lingering depression, seems fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 04:51 PM
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It's cool. The ones I'm really interested in are: street harassment, slut-shaming and other sexual inequality, Mostly because these are brought up as major issues by feminists and I am of the opinion that this happens SUPER rarely. And: being raised as indirect/unassertive/passive aggressive communicators (in turn contributes to lack of respect from peers), Because I think that the vast majority of women's issues derive from this. and: being aggressively encouraged to pursue motherhood over care…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 04:50 PM
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Good point.
/r/askTRP17/08/16 04:47 PM
1

And how is majority of child care determined in the case of both parents working full time? What's that? It still goes to women 80%+ of the time? That makes a ton of sense. WHY is equal custody only granted ~5%? There have to be FAR more than 5% of divorces with both parents working full time. Besides that, in most cases where one spouse is clearly the majority caregiver, the ONLY reason that they are is because the other spouse is using their time to financially support the family unit. Why dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 04:45 PM
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You're not listening, bud. There are women out there that literally CAN NOT love their children in a normal, healthy way. There's many of us with abusive parents who were so self centered that they clearly only ever loved anyone as an extension of themselves - but literally CAN NOT love anyone in a normal, healthy way. It usually devolves from them being full of insecurity and self hate, I think. Can can mean potentially or "is able to" - and there are mothers out there that ARE UNABLE.
/r/askTRP17/08/16 04:38 PM
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I never said divorce rape, actually. I said they are guaranteed to lose. Loss doesn't mean divorce rape, not by a long shot. However, there isn't any point in expending the capital (thousands to hundreds of thousands of dollars) to fight a system that is completely stacked against you, when you could instead save those resources to put towards your children. I'm curious what your source is on men getting the "custody arrangement they want" - because every source I have ever read says the exact o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 04:31 PM
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Well, the question was quick, even if your answer wouldn't be! However, the men's issues clearly do derive from gender roles or else we wouldn't see a major variance based on gender, so that isn't a very good method to discount them. Essentially your answer reads as, "I want answers from TRP on how to fix men's issues, but I won't provide any for women's issues."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 04:29 PM
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Yeah, I switched to a place that has classic barbers, but mine is a super hot young woman. However, she actually does my hair more like a consultation - I'm changing it to a newer style and the transition is taking months.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 04:26 PM
1

Fair enough, what stimulus can we change?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 04:24 PM
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Push to get it back, but don't believe her until the money is in your hands or in your new bank account.
/r/askTRP17/08/16 04:24 PM
2

Right. Not everyone can - cluster b personality disorders.
/r/askTRP17/08/16 04:23 PM
1

Maybe it is because women usually don't earn much, but I think that adds a lot of value, besides the obvious income benefits, it removes the motivation for a lot of the other AWALT BS down the road. I agree with what you're saying here, which is why I am very glad my wife has a nearly equal income. I think that many men find high earning women to be less feminine, and as such, less appealing, unless they earn that money in a distinctly feminine way or their wealth is inherited.
/r/askTRP17/08/16 03:50 PM
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OP, your mom is likely getting her validation from you. I'd say just do your own thing as much as you can and move out on your 18th birthday. Also, isolate all your finances so that only you can control them. This will be paramount in a quick exit. It will be very hard for your mother to get her validation if you're always busy, and never around for her to show off.
/r/askTRP17/08/16 03:48 PM
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Not all moms can love their sons. Mine couldn't. If his mom is a manipulator, he needs to take the lessons he has learned in holding frame against her bullshit and get out.
/r/askTRP17/08/16 03:45 PM
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A person does not have to be verbally disrespected to be made to feel ashamed and like a failure. So people suffering from internal issues that are not the fault of any individual need others to change their behaviors to accommodate?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 03:41 PM
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I think she has, we haven't talked in over a decade after I told her it was disrespectful to my wife and her husband to continue maintaining any kind of relationship. I know her (second) husband from when we were in school and she's doing much better now. Still talks about me even today, but everyone has the one who got away, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 03:33 PM
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Have to pay child support, which indicates that they are not the primary custodial parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 03:32 PM
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It wasn't a troll comment, actually. It's a question I've never gotten a good answer to. So because I prefer my family to be traditional, and I work every day, I'm part of the patriarchy? Do I have to get out of bed earlier now so I can economically oppress women? Because last time I checked, I do everything I can to advance both my career and my wife's. I encourage my daughters to be strong and independent, and my sons to treat everyone, not just women, with respect while not being a doormat. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 03:29 PM
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