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Correcting people who are wrong in their corrections.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 11:44 AM
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How many do you think even understand what femininity and masculinity are? They claim declaring any aspect of masculinity toxic is shaming men as a whole, while denying that the feminine has any strength at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 03:17 AM
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They'd argue those women are the ones who embraced masculine dominance, in order to save them from their feminine weakness/societal brainwashing, and thus found their true place in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 02:17 AM
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Basically, they claim to want to dismiss outliers, in search of useful heuristics. But the way they do this, is to cast themselves in the role of all men, and women they don't like as all women.. It's the way most bigots work. Edit: The lovely gentleman below me has confused this opinion for radfem misandry. Poor guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 02:05 AM
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Liberal men often do live the cuck life You never stop writing pornography to yourself, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 02:03 AM
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Their argument is that men they can sympathize with are the majority, as are women they can't. It allows them to dismiss everything that conflicts with their worldview, without risking the pollution of an open mind and rational thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 01:51 AM
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Sorry, I just woke up, but as far as I know, you're both wrong. Especially if we're exploring that exact question. So we'll be removing the limerence junkies from the equation, and ignoring friends with benefits, because those are their own states, in between the two. With that population out of the way, here's the first problem. Yes, you're right: he's completely full of shit when he goes for the alpha fucks/beta bucks nonsense. When most women have things their way, they generally use their le…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 01:27 PM
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There are people behind those usernames. They're a random sample of the population. They were unable to agree on the men's looks. Explain why that doesn't mean anything? I'm sure they could all agree on what a square is. Or a sphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 03:48 AM
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Just one of the many.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 02:50 AM
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Hm. You can't read. Or suffer memory problems. There's a surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 02:44 AM
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You're supposed to use minor dread, and pretend she earns the sex with her personality traits Speak for yourself. I never have to pretend. And that's why it's so easy for us to sync up
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 02:36 AM
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Within a relationship. A lot of guys seem to think that making out, fingering etc. is sort of a placeholder, with PIV being the ultimate goal. So once the relationship has progressed to the PIV level, they no longer see the point in the other stuff. It's because there's nothing much going on inside them - they wanted the validation, nothing more. I'd sooner have a dead bedroom than PIV and nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 02:30 AM
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Complaints from the victims are evidence enough for me. I'm an evil SJW, remember? If anything, Sweden's currently the manosphere's worst nightmare. They count things as rape that other countries don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 12:26 AM
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There are a lot of ways to say it, without using those exact words. Some people don't know the difference between loving you, and being in love with you. Besides, limerance often fades. There's more to being in love with someone than just the first addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 12:24 AM
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I'd simply point out that the Swedish police don't share the data on who they go after with the public, but judging from the sheer volume of harassment complaints, I doubt they're shy on the immigrants. Can you provide some evidence to the contrary? Not just a few isolated horror stories. Those can be used to prove anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 12:18 AM
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Or the opposite. "I still want to fuck you, and I love you as a friend, but that's as far as it goes."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 12:15 AM
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They have reasoning and some logic. But notice how much women say, If Not This, Then That? I'm too distracted by all the times I've been accused of misandry for not supporting misogyny. And have you watched Reddit's idea of debate in the default subreddits? Or have you checked out the Youtube comments? Every watched a political debate, anywhere? True logic - the kind that isn't purely selfish, and combines all available data and all available perspectives - is incredibly rare. People are paid go…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 12:12 AM
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Your theory requires that girls don't learn logic. Having been mercilessly dissected by some very logical women, I'd like a source? You're also confusing analytical intelligence with rationality, which is another matter altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 11:58 PM
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Since you've forgotten, in all the time you've spent jerking off. Me. You're observing that for a lot of men, sexual attraction is purely visual. You. Male sexual attraction is mostly visual Me. It's a reality which is often laughed at or dismissed or shamed. You female collectivism Me while others are unapologetic You. Because they don't care about any of that. Yeah, I really don't get your argument. Laughs. I just repeated it, in advance of you explaining it. You: All these moral judgements yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 11:48 PM
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In general? I think that they're more aware of how relationships work, and less attracted to risk for it's own sake. For masculine minds, that knowledge comes later, with maturity. But the feminine mind is more likely to back away from confrontation, overall, and learning to stand up for itself, even when challenged? Easy for the masculine mind, but for many young women, this comes later, with maturity. So, blurring each into two blobs, I'd say that as a very crude heuristic, each begins with st…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 11:35 PM
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Trump was grabbing strangers by their crotch, and claiming that freezing up meant they loved it. That's way different from "We fucked each other silly, licked up the blood and then I made her sleep on the wet spot." As for politics in general - as long as the right tries to take back LGBT/abortion rights and tear apart the social safety net like angry drunks? Yeah, there will be deals with the devil. Last time we voted our conscience, America rediscovered torture.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 11:22 PM
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Some people call everyone who cares about progressive/feminist causes SJW, so they've embraced the label.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 11:18 PM
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So far, in reading this, the evidence is 19th century observations by men who were also wrong about a great many things, and who exhibit little curiosity about the influence of their culture. The overall vibe I get is that men who struggle with social play and empathy just labeled it all "Childish", which is ridiculously immature on their parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 11:13 PM
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They'd laugh their asses off, because the stereotypes redpills love couldn't be further from our direct experience. But that's what happens when right wingers get caught up in an echo chamber...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 11:07 PM
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It seems they really are down. At least if you're young. Some men and women are overwhelmed by all the choices they're being offered, and lack the wisdom and experience to navigate their way through it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 11:05 PM
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My friends are SJW, and rough sex won't make them uncomfortable unless you just drop it into conversation like you're XxXChad ThundercoKKK1996XxX from the planet HentaiKing. They're not fans of stereotypes though. If that's the only someone can communicate, I can see how it'd be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 10:57 PM
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I am under the impression that I misinterpreted what you meant with "It's like every guy is either terrified of tripping over someone's gag reflex". I meant more that the women I've known aren't shy about sharing graphic details with their friends. Emotional, sexual, it's all about getting a clinical readout. At least when everyone's comfortable with each other. LGBT men are much the same. But men - at least the straight men I've known - tend to have strong gag reflexes. They hurry past details,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 10:47 PM
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Apologies, I must confess I don't know much about realpolitik myself. Glancing at the dictionary, it seems like "Take every shortcut power affords, then let the next guy deal with the fallout. If anyone complains, just wink at the cynics, and claim this is how adults handle things." But with much less self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 10:19 PM
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These guys were far from blue. They sincerely tried their best to offend. They just weren't very good at it. But where do you guys live, that men are even afraid to talk amongst themselves about liking rough sex, or hating nagging?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 10:08 PM
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The understanding of realpolitik itself, or understanding the world enough to apply the philosophy in their own best interests?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 09:56 PM
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My counter would be Sweden, or in America, Baltimore - when the statistics are surprisingly low compared to the amount of complaints, it's usually a good sign that they're about to increase after serious reforms. It's easy to understand why people are worried after college campuses abused their discretion, but that's an entirely different matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 09:53 PM
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I know you are, but what am I? I'm not sure why I expected your insults to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 09:46 PM
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When you finish fighting the evil reptile puppetmasters, and rejoin the rest of us, explain how toys based on women being generally more nurturing and boys generally preferring more violent play - with both preferring boy's toys as they age - in any way disagrees with her post? Seriously, when it comes to blank slate, are you really that lost, or are you just emotionally attached to fighting against an enemy nobody here actually represents?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 09:00 PM
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Both boys and girls showed a trend for an increasing preference with age for toys stereotyped for boys. Also uses the phrase "generally" quite a bit. So, obviously it's not nearly as simple as you'd prefer. If we handled race the way you handle femininity and masculinity, everyone would be darkest black or albino.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 08:41 PM
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It usually does. But when TERFs and tradcons team together with the alt-right, the moral of the story's always going to be gender segregation. They're all obsessed with the idea that men and women don't have unique personalities, and share no common ground. It's ironic that they hate radical Islam, since they're flirting with all of it's favorite ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 08:34 PM
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I know, but Dunning and Kruger already warned me to expect days like this. So keep marveling at your own brilliance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 08:11 PM
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Yeah, looks like that all went over your head. Thanks for playing though. Come back when you calm down, and can think about this a little less emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 08:01 PM
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I know playing deadbeat dad is near and dear to the manosphere's heart, but you guys helped make them, and child abandonment hasn't been helping your cause. It can't be just Atlas who's noticed that they've combined forces with MGTOW to try to take /r/theredpill in another direction. Is it men's job to put other men in check? Unless you want the emotions of the moment rewarded and amplified over everything that'd prevent them from taking on a life of their own. What's the track record on angry y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 06:19 PM
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I mean, men need to be able to be themselves somewhere. Nobody said otherwise. My complaint was when anger phase nonsense gets a free pass, and complaints about it are carefully censored - can't have every man allowed to speak freely, when you're trying to rewrite the definition of masculinity in your favor. I don't care about these retards. They're your monster. Enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 06:05 PM
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Aside from the way it normalizes some of their worst behavior, and teaches women not to trust men? Ask /r/incels. They took a lot of the anger phase nonsense they've overheard literally. It's not like you can just conjure up quotable memes like "cock carousel", "AWALT", and expect them to only reach the ears of people who need to stop behaving like a Disney prince.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 05:51 PM
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All I know, is whenever I've been invited to otherwise all women's chatrooms, they're way more explicit than the all men's. It's like every guy is either terrified of tripping over someone's gag reflex, or trying not to give away their inexperience. They give themselves way too much credit for being crude and offensive. Usually, it's just a few people's shitty attitudes, more than anything that'd need a content warning.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 05:39 PM
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Once you ban anyone who doesn't want to see or hear that bullshit, anyways. Gotta keep the safe space.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 05:34 PM
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It's a problem when hate groups try to claim that their lockerroom talk represents every other lockerroom in the world. Controversial isn't the same as paranoid and bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 05:33 PM
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Man, I'd have been locked up for life if I'd been in your school. Many of my homework assignments had a body count, and the illustrations were exactly what you'd expect from someone who stayed awake to watch too many 80's horror movies. The teachers just arranged for me to get extra art lessons, so that I'd stop drawing clothing like superhero spandex. Gore was fine, they just wanted to make sure the demons and the victims weren't up to anything they shouldn't be. I was too young to understand a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 05:19 PM
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This is like asking writers where they get all their ideas from. Or looking at an empty stage and wondering how anyone ever came together to create a play. Why do we have a language? Why is that language challenged, why does it grow and evolve? We are creatures made out of meaning. Those who lack it, just haven't learned how to make their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 05:02 PM
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Cracking down on sexual assault's a pretty good agenda. But thanks for the paranoia. I'll certainly take it into consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 04:58 PM
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We're allowed to criticize groups, and in unflattering terms. It's what makes all the misogyny possible. Please stop pretending to be oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 04:55 PM
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Yes, I've already heard your opinion. You keep confusing disagreement with a lack of empathy. Interesting to talk to Who said anything about conversation? I'm not as innocent as that strawman you keep gnawing apart. I don't have a safe space Of course you do. No judgement or sensitivity is allowed. Anger is allowed to flourish. rambling Don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 04:53 PM
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The numbers look low to most.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 03:12 PM
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Because they don't care about any of that. Male sexual attraction is mostly visual, teen is like the most searched porn term. I don't think they care about manipulation or exploitation when it comes to sexual attraction, that is just female collectivism. Teen meaning 18+. How does it compare to every other search term combined? Because that's the sexual attraction to adults, who are infinitely more interesting individuals. Not to mention, throw in the under 16 year olds, and you'll start seeing …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 03:11 PM
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You're observing that for a lot of men, sexual attraction is purely visual. It's a reality which is often laughed at or dismissed or shamed. Many men are made uncomfortable by how easily it's exploited, while others are unapologetic, and really wish more men would know that kissing ass won't make them any more popular. I'm observing that teenagers aren't the same as adults. Most adults avoid relationships with them, for a reason. It's a lot of responsibility to avoid manipulating someone with no…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 02:46 PM
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Of course they do. But then again, so do their favorite researchers. Here's an easy example. Notice how there are two cultures being explored here, but after admitting they don't get it, they rush to dismiss one as cultural and declare the other "The One" true attraction. I'm not sure if they're aware, but India does have a culture too. So does Japan and Europe, both of which have also made a fetish of shame. Is it due to the demonization of sexuality, from both the far right and the far left? P…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 02:34 PM
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You're arguing that beauty is purely objective, an argument which, beyond extreme outliers, has gone down in flames whenever we've tested it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 02:11 PM
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I love the argument that BP empathy is lacking because it struggles to see the world through the eyes of those who lack empathy. And even when we do make the effort, we're told it doesn't mean shit unless we endorse everything redpill. Here's an idea - how about you guys start a topic criticizing bluepill (sex positive progressive) beliefs that's not based on a gotcha strawman, and actually help us improve ourselves for a change? Because all I've seen so far are variations of "LIARS!", "Why do y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 02:09 PM
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Some of us can lose physical attraction pretty damn quick. If that doesn't describe you, my condolences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 01:28 PM
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Anyone with a functioning brain, depending on circumstances. Some women think more than others. But I'm not sure why you're still terrified of cooties - do you ever stop overcompensating?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 01:06 PM
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Now, for the next test, see how attracted they are to average teenage girls after actually refereeing all their exciting soap operas. The teenage girls can compare notes, by the way. It's only fair that we see whether these men are still attracted, after they've been rated by shallow high school popularity standards. The parents and medical professionals should also get to quiz them after reading their results. Let's leave no stone unturned, in proving how healthy this all is. Also, how old were…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 12:33 PM
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For men who don't know what taupe is. Basic brownish-gray, tint as necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 05:26 AM
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They prefer games where there isn't a winner and a loser, instead everyone gets to win Does everyone win in survival horror games? Because they seemed pretty popular with my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 05:20 AM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 05:02 AM
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Bullys tend to get what they want more How good are they at keeping it, in places that actually police themselves? have more frequent and attractive mating prospects, Then again, they have less impulse control. No wonder why they're so terrified of enthusiastic consent. And child support payments.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 10:07 PM
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I know they will. I've tried everything in my power, given them opportunities I'd only wished I had... They can't ever see past the possibility of being hurt again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 09:54 PM
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I used to be the worst kind of loser. I know all the lies that we tell ourselves, to keep ourselves from being hurt. So no, I won't buy into the blackpill ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 09:38 PM
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Except your portrait is incomplete. There's also mentoring. And teamwork. And men and women who give their strength to others. There are heroes. And the better the winners are at flaunting their superior position the more female attention they get. Why would you want to fuck those women? They're very shallow, and many are dark triad themselves. Honest question - there's never been a time the thought wouldn't make me physically ill. Thank God they don't represent anyone other than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 09:15 PM
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Looking over old internet posts, I was briefly blackpill, apparently. What argument The one where I tried to convince the entire planet it didn't actually want to sleep with me. If the blackpill was right, I never needed to be afraid of sex again. You can see the appeal. change of heart "If I spent half as much time becoming someone worth giving a shit about, as I did convincing people not to have sex with me, maybe I wouldn't be so damn alone all the time?" experience Everything that happened a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 08:52 PM
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It's meritocracy, period. It's possible to read all the posts you guys censor, and it's a meritocracy with an asterisk attached as long as you celebrate well written edgelord trash from the right while demanding progressives kiss everyone's ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 07:34 PM
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Is there a gene that determines if someone is trans? If so, you'd either find it in the mother, as relates to the environment in the womb, or in the genes related to androgen sensitivity. A trans woman's brain is one that didn't finish the masculinization process. Ditto a trans man's body. Conservative efforts to pin all of this on "Sin", "Fetish", or "Attention whoring" only betrays their primary obsessions. How do you distinguish them from a particularly feminine man or masculine women? Well, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 07:27 PM
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attending a shitty school... I don't hesitate to call any school where dysfunctional assholes ran the place a shitty school. They create broken neighborhoods, because all the status climbers are too busy backstabbing each other to accomplish anything worth investing in, just like a toxic pro wrestling lockerroom. You can see how the behavior plays out under a microscope, by watching the modern GOP in action. How's their health care bill coming along? Basically, female sexuality demands that ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 06:22 PM
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Gender dysphoria, ADHD, gender non binary sapiosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 06:05 PM
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So, 1985, and poverty stricken inner-city neighborhoods? The kind of factories that create horror stories? Yeah, that sounds about right. As it happens, I attended one of those schools. But when I escaped, there was a world of difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:57 PM
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You claimed all women are attracted to bad boys, and their way of expressing of masculinity, which aside from breaking the rules on circlejerks, is calling a lot of people liars. I observed that your opinion is full of shit. You failed to defend it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:47 PM
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Generally. Which is why the wives impress. They crafted a redpill formula designed to get a read on everyone, and it's one even someone without basic empathy can understand. No politics attached. If this was the way the entire redpill actually ran, I might be tempted to switch to the dark side.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:43 PM
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He was being sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:30 PM
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Bullies are routinely the most popular and sexually successful boys in high school. Source: 60's comic books. Attended a shitty school.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:27 PM
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Please don't use "assertive" to mean contrarian. I have no idea where this new definition came from, but assertive is actually the happy medium between aggressive and passive. It means representing what you want, but the other part of that is taking other people's needs into account as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:26 PM
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It's more of a double measurement. It's how dominant she is, plus her feelings on a partner's dominance. So a low dominance woman with no patience for being dominated may find a nice and understated egalitarian relationship. But a low dominance woman who needs a dominant partner will chew him up and spit him out, just long enough to escape her cage. (Or simply wither away. Or find comfort in religion.)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:22 PM
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I simply observed that you're factually in error. You've refused to present any kind of counter-argument, and instead doubled down. Of course the debate's going in circles, when all you can do is spin.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:17 PM
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I make no claims about sex before marriage. I ask questions about the sort of man who thinks every woman prefers dark triad hook-ups. Especially when he's sensitive about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:12 PM
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Which is not my fucking point, I'm talking purely about sexual attraction. Demisexual? Sapiosexual? Sexual attraction to power? Adrenaline junkie sex? Melting into bliss, with an experienced lover's hands? You're asking for good faith, when you're presenting an argument that claims I don't exist, and neither does anyone I care about. One that asks me to ignore all of human history. Just like you ignored that link earlier. How am I supposed to take your behavior in good faith? Do you even know wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 04:57 PM
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Yes, because you are going against the grain in asserting yourself in opposition of someone else. IE, your mother tells you to brush your teeth but you assert your boundaries to tell she has overstepped. Important note to any 6 year olds reading this: Please rebel against something other than good dental care. You'll thank me later.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 04:08 PM
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Social and emotional connections is not sexual attraction. No, but for some of us, they can be very necessary for it to begin. And someone who provides them - and a spark of compatible sexual chemistry - can be hotter than any model. But go ahead - you were about to come up with an actual counter argument, instead of feeling really hard at the subject matter, and cherry-picking scientific data?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 04:01 PM
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Your claim is that looks are what every woman bases her sexual attraction on, first. Except that social and emotional connections are very good reasons for someone less attractive to beat out Chad Thundercock. Not every woman is even turned on by no strings - As my links have demonstrated. Edit: Not to mention, laughing at lookism is the one thing that unites red and blue, and we're not all blessed to be the beautiful people. Edit 2: Have you ever even been to a munch? How about an orgy? If you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 03:48 PM
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Like assholes, some are more full of shit than others? Your opinion is easily disproven by good men (not nice guys) and boy band fangirls...and that's before we give the slightest thought to every other exception around. There's not much point in taking your act seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 03:41 PM
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When you'd understand the context you'd know I'd be talking about sexual attraction for which I do have links that support this claim. Like how young college students report their attraction to a series of photographs? I can play that game too. But when /r/incels best counter to research like this is to scream about femoid conspiracies and virtue signaling, it all turns into a self-parody. Edit: Not to mention, you guys are worse than anorexics when it comes to making up excuses to see ugliness …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 03:37 PM
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"Less demanding" in what respect? They're designed for people who just want no strings, as fast as possible, with someone decent looking. Essentially, everyone entering is okay with being sold to each other like meat. And if you're into that kind of thing, it can feel like a subversive thrill. Obviously, in that kind of an environment, someone who is willing to take you a bit out of your comfort zone has a huge advantage over someone who wants time to make a genuine connection. Especially if the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 03:22 PM
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You have a very limited definition of masculinity. Also a very limited definition of women. You should tend to those gaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 03:08 PM
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What if you already know how to talk to girls? Most men do. We can't always dumb down our advice for the near incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:51 PM
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Every woman I've ever talked with about their sex lives has one of these in her past or present. Some context might help: When it comes to sex and relationships there are no mistakes. There are only decisions. You're a bit full of shit, if you think every dark triad sociopath out there sold themselves as such. What's popular in the less demanding meat markets isn't always as popular everywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:48 PM
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It's why OP's strategy was banned, and it's why TRP never asks bisexual/pansexual women for advice. At this point, "advice for most men" isn't even rising to the level of plausible deniability.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:43 PM
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You start telling me the "I'm just observing the black pill is a joke" without providing any sort of argument for why Two links already. And the observation that crying for a moderator is your best counter argument to any attack on your favorite suppository. But then again, the black pill is just a set of feelings. It involves no actual thought, so let's not pretend there's actually anything to defend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:40 PM
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For example, how could most men make friends with anyone LGBT? It's just unrealistic for us to breathe any hint of that advice to them, especially when they're trying to spread a paranoid fear of the left.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:34 PM
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When it comes to sex and relationships there are no mistakes. There are only decisions. You don't see a contradiction there? Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. knowingly Are you just too trusting, or is that a rationalization for your own sins?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:26 PM
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I really don't give a shit whether you believe it's a joke or not, I stand by it. I'm too distracted by the fact you can't actually defend it without your pet moderator banning everyone. What the fuck are you on about? It's evident you have no clue about what it means to be an incel. But I used the same definition you guys used when arguing women can't ever be incel. Is hypocrisy an essential part of it all?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:22 PM
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Sociopaths can. Idiots are pretty good at it. I can see how you earned your red flare.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 12:48 PM
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I'm just observing that the black pill is a joke, and nobody's fooled by the MGTOW style coping. Unless you're volcel? If so, stop pretending to be incel. You should be banned from the r/incels cesspool like the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 12:34 PM
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I really have my doubts about your claims. Don't fool yourself, every single woman will place good looks above anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 06:01 AM
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Because your comment history reveals someone who doesn't have a clue about women, so you aren't a credible source. Don't fool yourself, every single woman will place good looks above anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:51 AM
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TRP's about politics more than it is helping men. They'll happily remove anything they consider too left wing, and work on making up a semi-convincing excuse later. Their favorite is "It wouldn't work for men who can't do what you can."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:31 AM
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All dudes, thanks to your special snowflake definitions. Talk about overcomplicating a simple matter. But I'm sure, like porn, we'll know it when we see it. All thanks to our psychic powers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 04:50 AM
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All this tells us is that people can end up as fucked up people for reasons beyond their own control. This is true, and it's also honestly sad, but it doesn't make them better persons. No, it doesn't, but it also means that they're not limited by their past. Don't let the drowning pull you down, but also don't judge those who really are learning how to swim. And for men, struggling in these waters, who are just now learning how to be someone desirable? Those who were left behind, by their peers?…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 01:10 AM
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Some people define themselves by numbers and linear ranking algorithms. Some don't, and really wish those obsessed with leveling up would learn how to take responsibility for their own lives, instead of trying to spread the guilt.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 01:07 AM
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What story? It's something entirely hypothetical about someone we don't even know. Could be right about her, but the parts where every woman is incapable of fighting the biological urge to star in his cuckold fetish fantasies are dubious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 12:14 AM
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"You're just a crazy man." and "You're just a crazy woman." can be hurtful as Hell to trans and genderqueer. Once you know this about someone, why would you choose to hurt them? Mistakes will happen with pronouns, but I don't see why anyone would actively fight to misgender someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:50 PM
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Yes, but internally, the machinary that defines human attraction? How do you think it's working inside them? Do they have special alien cyborg parts?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:47 PM
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Your entire argument is "HAHAHAHAA, snowflakes." So, until you look up the definition of the words you're using, you're not giving me anything to actually work with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:46 PM
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Really, any cissy would probably be worthless here. Also, I can't wait to apply your pioneering work to racial slurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:39 PM
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Hence why there's bisexual and pansexual. Or do you think that's all special snowflake too? Because it's pretty easy to see who's lying on that front.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:39 PM
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Okay, you're wrong without even a good excuse, then. Your humor is based entirely on telling other people what they're going through. Pity you aren't a woman, you'd have made an awesome radfem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:37 PM
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I don't expect a chick like you to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:35 PM
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You're abusing the term "Snowflakey". It means people who are different just because they're attention whores. You know, like the alt-right and TERFs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:32 PM
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I agree. That's why I stick to brain dissection and people's own lived experience. Can you think up a logical, non-emotional reason to believe one gender identity automatically cancels out all others? How does the system work without failure, every single time? Or are you arguing that gender is societal? Edit: I think you are on a witch hunt, everyone else but you must be thinking gender is binary! Nah, just those arguing that it's either male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:28 PM
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The right. Listen to them proclaim the end times. The fall of Western civilization is nigh, unless we can divide people into clear boxes of pink and blue. Seriously, they're like cats panicking over an unexpected cucumber! O.O AHHHHHHHH!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:23 PM
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Because you're trying to prove that gender identity doesn't reflect neurological reality. You don't get to scribble out all the cases where body and brain didn't match up, just because it offends your politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:20 PM
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You don't get any more snowflakey than being traumatized by other people's differences. Damn, the right is a comedy act.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:18 PM
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How can someone experience both genders at the same time? How can someone be ambidexterous? Or have two different eye colors? Or be attracted to both men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:17 PM
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The research was an attempt to prove that you could impose gender from the outside. You're helping me make my case.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:14 PM
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But why does someone changing a single letter in their pronoun create any kind of deep societal division? If I meet a xe, instead of a he or a she, how does that affect my life? It seems like those dividing us, are those who desperately want that x to represent a symbolic betrayal of all our cultural ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:12 PM
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Because gender's something some people feel very intensely. But what happens when you intensely experience both genders at the same time, or in alternating fashion? Or none at all? What are you supposed to do, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 09:50 PM
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You're being too hard on your post. Sure, it's not much of a rebuttal, and your insults are lost in 2002, but I've seen worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 09:43 PM
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There have been all kinds of attempts to make that happen, and just as many to confuse the issue and sabotage them. Blind cynicism is substituted for critical thinking ("If everyone lies equally, why not just pick a team?"), narcissism for introspection, and personal responsibility was a casualty in the war between the selfish and the naive. Those with common sense and experience can avoid these thought killers, but how do you describe it all to those without that instinct? How do you write the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 08:35 PM
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Hmm. Good question. Both may be sincere in their want to change, and both will make mistakes, sometimes even stupid or hurtful mistakes.... But those with hope, make it easy for things to go right before and after. They take an active part in improving your life. You look forward to seeing them, most of the time. When you look at their mistakes, you can understand them. Their behavior may not be logical - mistakes often aren't - but it can be dealt with, or at least compensated for. Someone who …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 07:34 PM
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However, there are millions of teenagers and young adults around the world who have not reached biological maturity and yet manage to be for the most part responsible and trustworthy. Because they were surrounded by adults who were. But some were in abusive families. Some were neglected. Some were spoiled by parents who just wanted to be a 3 year old's bestest friend. Others were smothered, and never taught how to survive without someone else deciding everything for them. When you let modern med…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 06:42 PM
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Your brain develops into your twenties. With that development, comes better pattern recognition, better emotional control, and a realistic risk assessment. You're free to choose whoever you wish, but there are good reasons why people make horrible decisions, that will tell you nothing about the people they've become. Are you really going to let the past limit your present? Isn't it possible to trust people in stages, forcing them to earn it, if you're worried about being used?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 06:15 PM
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That maturity thing is basic neuroscience. It helps people who haven't had the benefit of other people's wisdom, catch up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 06:12 PM
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Treating it as dangerous, then. She gave into her fears. He didn't say a single word about attempting to initiate anything against her wishes. The entire time, it seems like he's taking her fears into account, in a way I wish I'd experienced. In a way a lot of people with our fears wish we could experience. Have you ever tried to flirt with someone afraid of you, and the entire time you're walking on a tightrope? Do you know what that can do to your nerves? And if you fall, there's little sympat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 05:50 PM
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I'm not saying what she did was gaslighting. I'm saying her accusation can hurt someone, by observing how that kind of accusation hurts people in other situations. or treated his sexuality as predatory. Calling someone's sexuality dangerous is closely related.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 05:32 PM
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TRP are superstitious idiots. If you're looking for practical advice about women's psychology, don't consult a bunch of pissed off kids and the dark triad wing of the ephebophilia community.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 05:27 PM
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Nah, just various dysfunctional personality types that can easily exploit human weakness to their benefit. Narcissistic, sociopathic, and Machiavellian. Because it's so easy for them to manipulate others on a short term basis, they're seldom aware of why the rush of power they can acquire doesn't work out long term. You can often find them answering questions in a federal probe, after their business collapses. Those who do become self-aware can be awesome people, if they're motivated and can fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 05:06 PM
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You're asking him to not have any emotional response to her issues. Have you ever been treated as if you were dangerous by someone you care about, when you've done nothing to earn it? It's a common gaslighting technique by dark triads, because it can destroy people who aren't prepared for it. And yet, he's handling this responsibly. He's not anger phase. He found someone who understood him, and they found a life together. And look, I'm not saying his ex tried to manipulate him. I'm not saying sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 04:02 PM
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Hi, I fornicate. Now, back to the part where you were calling me a slut? Explain where it comes from?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 03:01 PM
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You called me a slut, and you don't even know me. Shrugs. I'm just trying to find out where the insult came from.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 02:58 PM
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Chad with all the extras. He can combine excitement and comfort as needed, because he's not an overgrown 12 year old or the broken dark triads they fantasize about becoming.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 02:54 PM
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Oh, you really don't know. Edit: Screw it. There you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 02:48 PM
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Fair enough. But. Explain the holy energy that makes a marriage more sacred than simple "life partners"? Can it be measured? What is it made out of? What are it's properties?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 02:44 PM
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It's like any other faith based system, I guess. If she's not immediately sleeping with you, she's not attracted. Populations devastated by natural disasters simply lacked virtue, because understanding geology and meteorology is just too hard for some people to understand. What I don't understand is how you never got over the novelty of some women letting you put your dick inside them? How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 02:42 PM
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I like the part where you guys use the worst behaviors of women as a condemnation of the majority while isolating the best behaviors and claiming they're rare unicorns. But the real fun is when the whining starts about radfems doing it to men. Not much self-awareness at all, is there? "Ha, ha, ha, it offended someone, it must be true, unless it offends me!" Speaking of patriarchy, can you explain how Trump was able to fuck so many people over, exhibit several shades of incompetence, and still be…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 02:31 PM
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How are hypotheticals relevant to this discussion? Because you're confused about causation and correlation? But if 5th grade science classes can figure this kind of thing out, then so can you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 02:13 PM
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I've heard that lesbians are weak plenty of times, nothing about them "manning up". Well, at least the manosphere is consistent. Just curious - is this your version of virtue signaling?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 02:10 PM
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Oh, so you don't know about Sweden? I'm surprised. Well, you know how to Google. UN You're really not keeping yourself informed at all, are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 02:08 PM
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If men's violence wasn't taken seriously by the tradcons in the legal system, they'd exploit it too. You really haven't thought this through, have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 02:06 PM
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They're lesbians. Obviously they just man up and stereotype their way into stereotype. Stereotype! Christ, you're sheltered.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 02:03 PM
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It has nothing to do with lesbians rushing into relationships vs. gay men, overall. Just like it didn't the last 1,000 times this was brought up on PPD in the past few months.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 01:59 PM
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She's been around for years. If she's that determined to make me surrender to everything I want to happen, and I can't scare her off, despite my best efforts to scare her back... Why shouldn't we see where all of this goes? Besides, our lives are measurably better with each other in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 01:39 PM
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Especially if you ignore everyone who knows the difference between sexual assault and rape, in order to justify blurring the lines in your talking point. But anyways, you were telling us about the hard hitting justice system found in the Congo? I'm sure that everything's cataloged. Still, a better example might be the giant leap in Sweden's sexual assault numbers, when the rules for tallying them changed for increased accuracy.... which the right has even endorsed for confused racism reasons. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 01:31 PM
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No problem! ^.^
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 01:24 PM
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We just find out while swapping life stories. The idea that the number would result in any kind of a value judgement is completely alien.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 01:22 PM
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For example, literally no concept of personal boundaries and everyone's invited on an adventure - or simply drafted. You see it in some kids who've been abused, because they don't know what's appropriate anymore. But it also shows up in adult men and women who just lack all self-control in dealing with other adults - whether it's intoxication, dementia, or dark triad/predatory personalities. (Trolls are often the latter.) Men who think all of this sounds lovely, but who aren't predators themselv…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 01:10 PM
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I asked you a question. You insulted me. There's a difference. I, like many men, don't like one night stands. I get nothing out of them. You decided this was because I was too lazy to enjoy your favorite thing in the world, because...? Take me through your thought process.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 12:48 PM
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Some of us don't get anything out of an ONS. I'm not sure why you feel the need to project. Is getting laid the only pride you have in life? Because it's not really that much of an accomplishment. Practically everyone here has slutted it up a bit at one point or another unless they lucked into finding the right someone early on. Or are incels, but we don't count them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 03:25 AM
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Because you've labeled any and all individual tastes as weird ass and slutty. It's like being shocked people shop at places besides Wal-Mart.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 03:20 AM
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The only way every woman marries up is if you throw some wild bias into the mix. While that's been more than provided on Reddit, simply waving a magic wand at all the cases of pair bonding - or people who just balance each other out - isn't going to make it all disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 03:14 AM
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To build more 11th dimensional sand castles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 08:16 PM
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Thanks! You just saved me a lot of research time. I'll put this knowledge to good use.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 07:13 PM
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Favorited. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 02:20 PM
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Don't read too much into it. It's all a bit more complicated than my first link let on. But who could resist the chance to take that shot?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 02:02 PM
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I was thinking more like Rome taming poor Yahweh's ghoulish bloodlust, and then the Enlightenment asking some painful questions that his Earthly hit squad had hoped to avoid. Edit: Besides, isn't what you suggested how W handled Iraq reconstruction? "I banish thee, evil Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party. Go and trouble me, no more! Whelp, that totally solved that problem....oh no, stuff is happening!"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 05:33 AM
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sighs Liberal feminists prefer moderate Islam, and hope to do for Islam in general, what was done to the Old Testament tribes. Anti-feminists consider both evil demons, and have yet to say anything interesting on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 05:28 AM
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Good topic. But nah, I go in the opposite direction - I get offensive around those who like to offend, and watch them suffer a near meltdown. They're usually some of the most hypersensitive divas around. If they can still engage in rational debate, and actually see through the idiot game, they win my (sometimes grudging) respect. Otherwise, they're just the usual hypocrites on the internet. For some reason, I keep expecting people to at least try to live up to their own ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 02:23 AM
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Most. Most wouldn't. Don't underestimate a predator's ability to find her prey. Odds are, she'll get away with it, because who'd believe a woman forced a man? Especially if he was erect? ... Besides, weapons are the great equalizer. So are other people. And, you're really underestimating how popular threats and blackmail are. And then there's psychological abuse - nobody said these asexual men are aromantic. Or that they aren't afraid of being abandoned by society. Coercion works on men and wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 02:07 AM
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if I don't go all in on the wrong kind of woman for me again. Give yourself away in steps. If she's the one, she'll understand. She'll want to prove she deserves your trust. Also, if you're ever terrified of walking on hidden landmines, rather than a very few that are clearly identified, she's probably not the one, and it won't ever be as good as it used to be, before you were afraid. I know I'm probably not telling you anything you don't already know, but sometimes it helps to see someone else …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 12:31 AM
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It's our superpower. It's just survival instincts, when you've been abused for a long time. But try to keep in mind, the world it shows you is only one side of the dice. I'm with someone now, who can see the best in me, even when I can't, and it's night and day. I know you're MGTOW, but hopefully, you have friends? You're not facing all of this alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 12:09 AM
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What I'm getting from all these answers, is that nobody here has ever been attracted to a friend. Considering how desperate half of them are to demonize the opposite sex, I can totally believe it. Meantime, here's my definitions: Attraction: They're your legal drug dealer, and they may not even know it. Consult a neurologist for the entire list. Friendship: Ranges from "They have my back." to "They're just fun to hang out with." May have benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 12:02 AM
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This confirms every fan fiction I've ever read.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:56 PM
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Here, to help you visualize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:55 PM
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Well, yes. If you make all men asexual, nearly all the rapists will be women. If anything, you can expect their numbers to increase. It just goes without saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:52 PM
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Anyone who reads back will see me offering an olive branch, after I misjudged you, and you deciding that you weren't finished with the fight. At this point, I'm okay with you continuing it all by yourself. Enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:43 PM
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You helped me. Thank you for that. I've gotten shit on for talking about some of my shit - the PTSD and what kept me from getting better, especially when it contradicts popular circlejerks - so I wasn't going to make a post here. But you went through some of the same shit, and then some, and you were willing to risk PPD's worst, so... I didn't feel so outnumbered, suddenly. If that makes any sense? I doubt we'll ever find much common ground, but finding any was a surprise. Sorry it had to be suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:40 PM
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It was also talking about their harassment of a woman who had nothing to do with it. And their politics. You're not even an honest reporter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:25 PM
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Is that what you think is happening? Edit: You really are Gamer Gate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:22 PM
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Depends how you define rape. But in the meantime, tell me more sweet lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:21 PM
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You're the one who decided I love this kind of nonsense. Next time you want to jerk off in the comments, think about it first and try to act like you're an adult, okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:16 PM
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And you counter with furious masturbation. Good show. You're everything I've learned to expect from GG.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:01 PM
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You're the one who wants me to ignore the organized harassment of women in the industry that began before GG found a more acceptable target. All in the name of "Gamer identity politics" that did their best to narrowly define the word in a way more sympathetic to the alt-right. I get that's less flattering than the approved narrative, but I'm really not interested in the official bedtime stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 11:00 PM
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Nah, just cynical. I'm still not used to seeing people who can see the bad in both post on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 10:53 PM
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Less rapey but somehow more traumatizing was when my first boyfriend started doing sexual stuff to me while I was sleeping when we were in agreement to not have sex. That's not less rapey. Also, kicking my dog. People like that need to become dogfood. You were given every reason to learn how to hate, by the low standards of the internet, so what prevented you from becoming something ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 10:51 PM
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That's scary as Hell. He absolutely knew what he was doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 10:43 PM
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He was awful in general, but this was probably the worst. It made me feel like I couldn't leave regardless of how he treated me, because he was the only person I had left. Yeah, it's the Dark Triad path to sainthood. Kudos to you, for seeing through it, and rejecting canonization. Were you ever able to repair any of your friendships?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 10:38 PM
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Raped me. Just to prove it was possible. The physical part was easy, compared to the mental. How do you take consent away from someone who has sworn to never refuse you? Someone who loves you? Well, she found a way. And I wish I drank, so I could get absolutely shit faced right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 10:32 PM
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That's what happens when you fuck shitty women. Keep telling yourself they're all like that - it'll help your gag reflex down when you're playing sex toy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 10:05 PM
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Was debating on even commenting on this, b/c I don't want to take away from the guys who have been cheated on. That sucks, and can hurt deeply. Wish more people understood that it's not a competition. That being said, I've been assaulted, raped, blackmailed, threatened with false rape/assault, and threatened to tell authorities I abuse my child. I don't even drink, but right now, I'd buy you a pint of whatever you wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 10:02 PM
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I've been in a few horror stories with women like that. But I've seen some of my friends go through a Lifetime movie. There are just horrible people out there. And they will do everything in their power to destroy you. Sorry to see you've been through that Hell too. Hope this day's been a good one for you, and if not, don't let the bastards tear you down. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 09:47 PM
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Intelligence and sanity are hot to me. Your move, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 09:39 PM
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Which is why not all experienced men are welcome. In terms of maintaining ideological purity, it's not that different from Scientology or Mormonism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 09:37 PM
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"Pessimism" is not bait-and-switch. According to which definition of positive? Link to where TRP claims to provide "an uncensored look at all Have you seen the Matrix? This has nothing to do with anything we've been talking about. Nobody came there to take any black pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 09:18 PM
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It relates to you being unable to see what's blindingly obvious to neutral observers. Is it practiced blindness, or does it come naturally?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 09:15 PM
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Nothing compared to yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 09:07 PM
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Yes, I know you keep your blinders on, when it comes to your ideals. You've already demonstrated that, before, when one side of your mouth argued that passive sexual coercion is like rape and the other supported an escalation of it through dread game.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 09:06 PM
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How is it not? Where's the bait-and-switch? Their pessimistic idea of what constitutes providing a positive identity for men? Their claim to provide an uncensored look at all the available science? Even most redpills will agree that the sub is way too MGTOW/incel for their tastes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 09:04 PM
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Yeah, TRP is totally honest about what it offers. Everyone there is already on board with its politics. snorts. Edit; Not to mention, they do a shitty job of not talking about fight club. Of course some people are going to come and visit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 08:47 PM
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It's harder to be virulently racist when you're raised beside other races, and they're not in your out-group. Because there's a slight difference between "I love your dark chocolate/vanilla/caramel!" and "Damn, why did I make all those excuses for my family's shitty behavior?" vs. "I believe there's a white genocide going on - why are we allowing it?!" and "You can't tie me to the body." Let's see if you can pick out what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 08:44 PM
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I'll let you handle the spinning. You twirl like a ballerina.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 08:34 PM
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That's not what all their post deletions suggest. The mods must be exhausted trying to create an echo chamber that doesn't look too insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 08:33 PM
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Are you seriously arguing that TRP is as bad as the worst radfems, in order to defend them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 08:28 PM
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When did it get instabanned, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 08:24 PM
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Why would it be flooding into /b/? It's a better fit for /pol/. NYPA about covers it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 08:06 PM
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Apologies, but who is IA?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 06:20 PM
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They didn't start deleting every mention of it, until some assholes decided this was the most important thing in the universe, and we wouldn't be allowed to move on. Just like when GamerGate decided to pretend that a bad PG-13 volleyball game was just too much hardcore sexuality for America. Honesty wasn't high up on their list of priorities. Edit: My love disagrees that it's a bad game. So, for the first time in my life, I can relate to all the guys who are dragged to musical theater against th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 06:16 PM
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Yes, she was bi. And we shared weird kinks. I'm not going to apologize for refusing to have sex earlier. Now, we come to you - you're vanilla, and there's a much larger crowd you're compatible with. Tell me more about how hard it is to be you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 05:29 PM
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It started before GamerGate. Check out their baby steps, two years before the Zoe letter. It wasn't until they figured out how to bring sex into it, that it all exploded.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 05:12 PM
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Your claim is that teaching lonely men to hate and fear women - and then steering them towards right wing politics - isn't exploiting them? Good one. Feel free to celebrate your victory. You always do, after all, no matter the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 04:28 PM
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So, you're just going to play stupid about the hate?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 04:18 PM
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Now, if on the other hand, you claimed every other shoe except one was going to betray you on that mountain, and lovingly described all the gory details, someone might question what the hell was in it for you? And if they observed that you were locking the doors so that the other sales clerks couldn't ruin your sale, they might be more than a little suspicious about your motivations. Some of us really can't stand "spinning plates", and others aren't qualified to know whether they like it or not.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 04:14 PM
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Why would you need to respond to me? I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 03:55 PM
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I've seen r/incels, and they wouldn't get lucky in any decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 03:27 PM
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I didn't say you were a hypocrite. I asked if you were. Logic says that hypergamy, as the redpill defines it, is a work of fiction. People usually go for someone similar to themselves, and shared ideals are more important than a pretty face, in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 02:54 PM
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Especially if we never grow up, and suffer from a clinical aversion to reality. Not a single utopia has ever succeeded. And the amount of time humanity's wasted looking for demons could have been used to save lives, instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 02:50 PM
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Like the logic that observes it's better to have long term commitment than be a single mother kicked out of the harem for getting too old? Or that societies that run like the WWE tear themselves apart? How about the one where we can't trace the fathers of so many daughters, because they don't hand down the Y chromosome? Of course we're going to find way less dads than moms in any examination of the human genome. So, the question is, do you really care about logic, or are you just another disappo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 02:33 PM
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I'm 5'6''. Tell me how one inch makes all the difference in the world? As for race? Get away from racists. Also, I don't know if you've noticed, but white people aren't the only people on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 02:28 PM
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What depresses me are the lies the manosphere uses to hide their exploitation of the hurt and the lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 02:25 PM
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Your name tag says it all. You're still a kid, and you still have a lot to learn. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 02:23 PM
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How old are you? I lost my virginity when I was in my 30's. It gets so much easier, then. It was more work to keep hold of it, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 02:22 PM
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You have my sympathies... And my envy. At least you're not in a straight jacket. If I found only a small amount of men attractive, it would still add beauty to my world. vulnerability It's not that simple. For one thing, most women need to deal with pregnancy. Men? Not nearly as often. So it actually makes sense for women to hesitate. Men are just playing a silly game, and are usually more terrified of liking it too much. But that's not the only complication. A vagina isn't always penetrated. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 07:13 AM
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Yeah, but he was going on a rant about a very specific hole. His issues with his already existing hole are an entire other matter. I'd much rather hear the insecure men of PPD explain why they're afraid of their prostates for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 03:05 AM
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Mostly met my girlfriends/FWBs through violent kink chatrooms. Like Gor, but much more freeform. It started with the sizechange/vore communities and only got wilder from there. But it wasn't the kink that kept me coming back. Part of it was the LGBT influence. Nobody was shamed for their sexuality or gender expression. And when everyone's starting off with an awareness that most everyone else they meet might be into rape fantasy, torture porn, and sexual cannibalism - for starters - there's just…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 10:55 PM
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I'll take your word for it - I'm not being sarcastic. But in my social circle, there are approximately zero conventional men. It's just all weird people who like other weird people. I've seen good looking dudes try to use redpill techniques and fail, just because they're aiming for an audience that welcomes cold calls.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:03 PM
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The nerdy girl going for the random jock is so common that it is basically a trope. Most of the nerd girls I've met were paired with equally nerdy men. But sometimes you'll see jocks go for geeks, because the idea that jocks are all brain damaged idiots is delusional. Also, some extroverts can't help but pester introverts. And the introverts who endure this sometimes end up liking it...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 08:25 PM
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My relationships mostly started online. You're focusing on the meat markets, when the internet is also the best way for people who don't fit into their local ecosystem to meet the like minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 08:21 PM
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lol. Even tho they are not. Most liars aren't criminal geniuses. I never said they'd intentionally expose themselves. Professional interrogators have found that most people simply want to talk about themselves. And many liars have a bad habit of overembelishing - it's a great way to find contradictions. If you let a liar know you're suspicious, they're just going to censor themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 08:09 PM
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Thanks for the perspective. I'll never understand why more people are willing to cheat than be in an open relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 07:38 PM
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Question: How did Europe's marital contract survive not sharing America's prudishness about sex? When you describe the experience of upper middle class white women, are you aware of just how few people that really covers? Because poor women never had the luxuries you claim. You're also stereotyping just as hard as trp. Plenty of men and women still prefer to grow older together, rather than deal with meat markets and young drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 07:03 PM
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Keep the faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 06:34 PM
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Women are just more discrete, and don't usually feel the need to share their rape/scat/gore/body horror fetish with complete strangers. But you're naive if you think women can't match men for getting off to raw nightmare fuel. Edit: I only met my girlfriend because I was willing to play djinn and help provide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 05:13 PM
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The pink pill poster, if memory serves, loved men's sexuality because it was easy to exploit. And arguing for female supremacy is a far cry from rape dungeons vs. couch potatoes. Her post is just a good example of agree and amplify - you'd recognize any men doing it, instantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 04:52 PM
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Not a single woman who has ever posted here, has views that radical. And she's not exactly a new poster.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 04:43 PM
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Every woman I've ever known. It must seriously suck to live around the shallow people. I have no idea how you guys can even be attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 04:42 PM
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It's because of all the little sperm ghosts. We don't know how you can't see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 04:38 PM
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, but also from them having is actually pretty appealing for women - and that is commitment and romance without the burden of performance. If that's true, why are so many women disgusted by that offer? The easiest way to get a relationship is to have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 04:36 PM
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...one day, the men of PPD will stop confusing their weird strawmen for other people's actual opinions, so that it's not nearly so easy to accidentally Poe them. I just need to have faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 04:33 PM
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How many women pay men to crap on them, hurt them etc? Why would they pay strangers to do it? How many women masturbate to porn where men are abused? You need to read more fanfiction. And when they abuse their male cast, it's not just about the physical pain. How often do women molest kids? Well, I know of at least two, from too personal experience. Please leave that sort of thing out of your trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 04:20 PM
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Please do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 04:14 PM
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I can't begin to imagine what he'd stick up there, if he had one. Or how quickly he'd get a rash from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 04:13 PM
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...one day, I'm going to live in a world where people recognize sarcasm. I just need to have faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 04:09 PM
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They are morally superior, they do not rape or commit violent crimes Oh, you poor, sweet, summer child...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 04:06 PM
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He's boasting about his 131 IQ. Odds this is all clever meta-comedy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 04:05 PM
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After all that, it's okay if you need to take a moment to recharge. But back to men's intelligence - you forgot to look at what IQ tests don't measure. Social/Emotional intelligence, the ability to detect fine degrees of nuance and subtext, and basic risk assessment. It's why so many men struggle to make connections, why their overreactions lead them to self-destruct, and why they dominate at the Darwin awards. Of course, since they created the IQ test, it's no wonder that they'd fail to measure…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 03:55 PM
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Blind skepticism is how blind faith protects itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 03:36 PM
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Which is why you're doing such a shitty job of convincing me to ignore my friends, my family, and my love. You can't even tell when you're lying to yourself anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 03:34 PM
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Especially when you grab your crayons and scribble out all the happy gender non-conforming men in this subreddit. Think about how we manage to exist, instead of simply subscribing to the worldview of men who need the internet to teach them how to talk to women. (But not too much! Gotta be quietly stoic or they'll give themselves away!)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 12:47 PM
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You also appear to lack any instincts for flirting and seduction. Unfortunately, expecting something to just happen, without something happening, to someone, somewhere, is like trying to light a campfire by rubbing asbestos together. Edit: You really need a dating coach, or a wingman, or someone who can help you more directly than text on a screen can.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 12:18 PM
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There is no completely healthy way for the genders to work together, their mutually antagonistic natures will always seep in somewhere Which is why so many ER staff become patients - you don't want to cross the xx/xy divide, unless you've had a sex change. Any amiable working banter you see? Odds are good at least one of them's hiding a scalpel in their fist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 12:07 PM
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Update your stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 12:00 PM
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They should be attempting to get as much information as possible - a liar is more likely to expose themselves, the more details they're allowed to add to the story. And treating a survivor like a hostile witness is a great way to make sure real crimes aren't reported. A bit of empathy and good listening skills will go a long way, no matter what actually happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:37 AM
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As if the police are thuggish morons who are incapable of processing potential victims. Many didn't have psychiatric training, and they deal with hardened criminals on a daily basis. Some common victim behaviors aren't intuitive - for example, making wildly inappropriate jokes about what happened, struggling with disorganized recall, or sudden bursts of anger. And that's assuming the victim has an emotional reaction at all. How was a random officer supposed to know how to deal with all of this? …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:30 AM
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Yeah, there's the aspects you mention but really it's more the little stuff, like how you feel awkward going to a meal or event with a stranger, how you have to coach your language and keep most your opinions to yourself Sounds like a great way to make sure there's no reason to ever meet again. Much easier to have a FwB Quoted for truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:09 AM
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Am I the only one that knows women who struggle too? Those who've never known any, must be going out of their way to keep it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:05 AM
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Women marry up, not across Do you have any other myths you'd like to put to the test?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 10:42 AM
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A brief history of men trying to prove most rape survivors were lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 10:29 AM
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All of those can handicap you, but many average looking poor men on the bottom rungs of society aren't dying virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 04:00 AM
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Flirting and escalating together is my favorite thing in the universe, and meeting new people isn't far behind. I'm not even kidding. I was the world's biggest prude until I discovered that kind of dance/duel/improv - how can you hate it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 03:57 AM
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When can I expect a rebuttal from you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 03:48 AM
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There is abundant evidence that women, as well as men, desire long-term committed relationships; but there is also an emerging literature revealing a hidden side of women's desires suggesting that women have also evolved to pursue short-term or illicit affairs. You're trying to prove AWALT. And failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 03:42 AM
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I didn't say you were redpill. I said it was a shame when blue pills need to remind redpills of what they believe. Your claim was that I was debating redpill concepts poorly - remember?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 08:59 PM
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Anyone of above average attractiveness can get casual sex. Most don't want it. So, I'd assume the claim is that anyone of average looks who knows what they're doing, and then takes care of themselves (thus becoming better looking than average), could find a hook-up. At least in the non-competitive meat markets. It also claims that few use Tinder for long. Most just find someone, and are okay with that - which is why it's hard to actually find anyone there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 08:55 PM
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There's quite a few men here who are turned off by casual sex. It's best to just ignore those claiming every man wants a harem. Odds are good they've never had to actually entertain one for any length of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 08:51 PM
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You've got two upvoted reds claiming that AF/BB is a strict binary, and how many use beta to mean a dead bedroom, rather than representing one half of attraction traits? The constant circlejerks about what blues believe, might mean something if more of you actually understood redpill theory to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 08:45 PM
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That's the usual standard around here, yes. I don't intend to lower myself to it. Did you have anything to actually say about the article? It's a pity when blue pills need to remind redpills of what they claim to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 08:39 PM
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Read the actual body of what I was linking. Now read this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 08:36 PM
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It's disputed RP theory, apparently. But I do keep track of evo psych - how am I supposed to debate redpill concepts without it? It's as close as you'll get to a neutral core most redpills can agree on, in the same way regular psychology often informs the blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 06:05 PM
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Words of wisdom, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 05:17 PM
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Welcome back. You got me, I've never used the internet or done any thinking before. You're still trying to salvage this? Now I'm gonna go cry since I feel so shamed, maybe my GF will like it. From your display so far, I can see why she wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 05:16 PM
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So is this one. Turns out that the only women pursuing an extreme AF/BB binary are the lowest of the low, with no other options. The real question is why anyone from TRP ever confused this with women's primary sexual instincts? They should have the experience to know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:29 PM
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The bluepill rebuttal was to point out that your evo psych was out of date, and it tells us more about you than your field reports can. Whenever you feel up to dealing with reality again, feel free to play catch-up. It was already linked once, but since sublime's post is at the bottom of the page...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:22 PM
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a fifty percent divorce rate Where first marriages have a much better chance of surviving than a second or a third. And the things successful couples do to keep them going are known to anyone with enough time on their hands. Surprisingly, honest communication works when both people are invested in the relationship. The redpill would have you believe that never happens. But. Hey, you know what else is bluepill? Getting married a bit later in life, and pursuing higher educational goals. Kind of im…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 09:28 AM
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They started as a way of trolling people/point out bullshit, courtesy of Something Awful. But other people noticed there was an awful lot of actual awful, in Reddit. Not all of them were qualified to judge what deserved to be highlighted, and they were all prone to their own biases. This comment chain is a fair trial.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 09:12 AM
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he's saying that there are similarities between soft coercion (the unspoken understanding that if a woman never sleeps with her husband he'll eventually divorce her Since women initiate the majority of divorces, let's not pretend this is the 50's. He's doing the opposite -- he goes out of his way to make a convincing case for the idea that coercion is similar to rape Now put that into the context of the redpill subreddit's "dread game.", a way of gaining sexual favors through an escalation of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 09:07 AM
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"If you aren’t building attraction to the point where a woman is begging and pleading you to thrust your cock into her, you’re doing her a disservice." And all you need to do, is remember alpha fux/beta bux, AWALT. Don't beta rape her! Show me some evidence that his strict binary is supported by anything? C'mon. You can do it. no contempt He mocked the logic that he used to arrive at this conclusion in his other post - the one where he dismissed any form of coercive rape? It's pretty clear even …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 08:08 AM
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It's both. Whining about bullshit. There's nothing they won't exaggerate in order to feel sorry for themselves, or minimize in order to prevent themselves from caring about someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:49 AM
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Of course not. We all know that the black pill mindset has nothing to do with seeking a partner. It's too in love with its own suffering in a way no human could possibly ever compete with. Overlap with what? Sociopathic bullshit. They're even more shameless about demonizing and dehumanizing women than /r/theredpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:34 AM
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It doesn't have anything to do with dark triad traits It's not self-aware enough to notice the sizeable overlap. or the propensity of attracting abusive partners... It's too stupid to understand how it happens. To the point where the DSM needs amending.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:14 AM
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What do you think it is? And tell me why you think I'm wrong? Because I've seen it in action - it's usually just lookism, or a pessimistic appraisal of mental illness, combined with a howling vacuum inside. Some will find a way to fill it. Others love the taste of a poison pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:09 AM
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We will! Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 02:02 AM
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Because I'm saving that for when my girlfriend and I marathon it. It's going to be ridiculously enhanced by her being a complete fangirl - I want to see her excited to share all her passions with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 01:57 AM
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They can't use mental illness to explain things like this. Archwinger's carefully crafted posts are popular, but indistinguishable from the kind of hate that you'd see in any other group dedicated to the purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 01:41 AM
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I wrote it based on my experiences dealing with a psychologically abusive partner, in the days before it became violent, and what other people have told me about their experiences with the same, what it's like being worn down slowly, by someone who dehumanizes them. The reason there's a black pill, is because some people need to have it explained to them why all of that is a bad thing. With many, their contempt for other people's comfort and emotional well being shines through, no matter what ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 01:31 AM
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and a plan of action that can make things measurably worse for someone else. Except she knew. Knew it because she couldn't go anywhere without him, not unless she wanted the accusations to begin. Knew it because any time she wasn't feeling it, she would be met with ice cold silence and he would disengage. She had no idea where he went in those moments. In that way, with bitter resentment, and harsh judgement, he made it clear she was never allowed to refuse him anything she'd done with someone e…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 12:55 AM
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I'm against poison in general. It doesn't matter what label they sign up with. And I'm using a lot of leniency here. I'm not counting just venting - there has to be some calculation, carefully designed to eliminate awareness of positive traits in the outgroups, and a plan of action that can make things measurably worse for someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 12:49 AM
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He claims he graded RP harshly. But they can spread all kind of poison under the guise of "helping men understand women" and get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 12:29 AM
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For example, saying "a lot of Fox News viewers are less educated than the national average, based on this study and this news report" is not an insult. It's the exact opposite of this. This is backed up with "I'll bet.", and is simply an expansion of the crudest interpretation of "ALPHA FUX/BETA BUX LOL, AWALT!" - one most redpills reject - using the language of feminism. It takes a grain of truth about some women, to paint an ugly portrait that'll poison minds. He also enjoys exploring the oppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 12:24 AM
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I'm not sure what you mean by this. One example, would be ArchWinger's claim that every woman who isn't satisfied in her marriage is a rape survivor. While on the surface, it's sympathetic to women, underneath the surface, it's poisoning the well in order to make sure that everyone subscribes to some of the most negative features of AWALT, including "regret is rape.", and "If you're not a dominant alpha, you're a piece of shit." AWALT by itself, claims all sorts of shitty things are true of wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 11:39 PM
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The problem is on team red's side. Specifically, with the men of team red. Since the women of team red don't always back them up, and they admit to needing advice on basic subjects, Occam's razor suggests that they're not credible experts on women at all. Their nonsense about Disney lying to them has been replaced by porn and messageboards lying to them. Edit: And assuming whatever gets them laid speaks for all women - or enough to ignore the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 11:07 PM
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That's a shockingly decent good faith analysis of the bluepill subreddit - it's better than the usual blind dismissal, at least. Edit: Wish there were more posts actually offering us something to debate. A few problems with the comparison - In your previous analysis, did you count redpill "advice" that's using veiled insults as the sole basis of the advice, underneath of it all? The bluepill exists to mock the redpill. When it offers only 3% more insults/slurs without additional content, than an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 10:52 PM
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Zero. I was going to marry her before it ever went further than kissing. Since I'm an atheist, you can imagine how well that blast from the past went over. Looking back, it's amazing anyone ever gave me a chance to redeem myself. But the women who finally got through to me were as much trying to defeat the stupid before they bashed their own brains against the wall, as they were interested in messing with the mind of a sheltered innocent. Edit: Also, the power of friendship probably factors in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 10:34 PM
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Well, thanks for the compliment, however unintentional. Then have some chemistry together. Red flag detected. I wish I could return it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 09:41 PM
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Team red would get a lot further if more took an approach like this. Oh, look, more than one set of instincts for women, instead of a bullshit stereotype in order to impress the anger phasers and the kids from the image boards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 09:34 PM
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It's not that hard to get a FWB. Just be a good friend with someone not looking for a relationship, who needs more than a stranger's touch. Then have some chemistry together. Sure, sometimes, it's way more complicated than that, but - You're looking at this, from the viewpoint of trying to start a FWB deal from a cold call, instead of it being the natural outgrowth of someone with a high libido and haphephobia knowing a friend she could trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 09:31 PM
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You realize that tinfoil fedora you're sporting really clashes with the rest of your look? "THE PERSON I DISAGREE WITH IS __ THEREFORE THEY ARE AUTOMATICALLY WRONG, HA HA HA" Oh, I've got this one! Is it "A woman"? "Progressive"? "Talking about their direct experience with the subject matter in a way I don't want to listen to"? With the way you're debating, I don't think you're qualified to define adult behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 09:11 PM
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If a grown woman 1) cant tell the difference between a guy who just wants to fuck, and a guy who wants a LTR She must have met a guy with a lot of experience lying. Either to others or himself. Since I hang out in gender flipped communities, I had the dubious honor of being taken in by women who pulled the exact same shit as male players do. Why don't you spell out what tells you think they have, so I can bitterly laugh at how innocent you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 09:03 PM
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Do you not understand the difference between "hooking up" and "dating"? Do you not understand the difference between "actually behaves like a boyfriend." and "might be able to LARP with, if you're desperate?" Because if you're counting every single shithead who thinks they can boyfriend, there's no point in debating you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:46 PM
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Those commercials would be the kind of thing the redpill complains about too, if you change the focus to "They must think men are idiots."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:06 PM
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How are we defining boyfriend? One who loves falling in love, or one that just wants to get their dick wet? Also, can we put you down as being in favor of doctors who have no idea what they're doing too?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:02 PM
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No, usually red makes up some nonsense about how all women are shallow as Hell, and can't be trusted. It throws a tantrum when we refuse to buy its claims that it's simply respecting diversity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:01 PM
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Yeah, blue pill ideas sound ridiculous when you reduce them to strawmen. It reveals just how dishonest the manosphere really is. Usually, it's the blues here - and women posting in general - who need to remind everyone else that they're projecting men's sexuality onto women. Especially when it comes to instant attraction and the rewards of a one night stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 02:47 PM
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Many single mothers are just trying to get away from a man who'd teach them all the wrong lessons. No need to demonize them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 12:30 PM
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A heterosexual marriage How likely is it that this includes men who can teach these children the emotional control and accountability required to not be a degenerate? 100%?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 12:21 PM
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I'm not single, but I'd be a corpse without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 07:00 AM
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But he's also right about dating sites being designed by men, for men. Why shouldn't women be more demanding before signing on? Meanwhile, men who can provide what those sites lack are doing just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 11:51 AM
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The chart below summarizes 2011 Census Bureau data compiled by Kids Count, a project of the Annie E. Casey Foundation. The group defined "children in single-parent families" as kids under 18 who live with their own single parent; it includes children living with a parent and a cohabiting adult More context for those numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 10:36 AM
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Worked for me. Works for a lot of men in the public eye. Won't work for guys who want to look more rugged - masculinity is it's own thing, and a bit of authentic grit works for some men. It's not going to go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 10:09 PM
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Your survey asks questions like "How do you feel about traditional values?" Am I supposed to assume that's anti-LGBT nonsense, or does it include the golden rule? Or is it a package deal, and I need to apply a single number to the entire conflicting mess?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 10:04 PM
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Well, there you go then. The world ceases to exist when you're not part of it. But you were persuasive - from now on, whenever someone posts something useless to me, I can safely assume they're a troll. Like you. By the way, if you'd bothered to read up on the philia, you'd know it's commonly associated with dominance. As I'm a submissive leaning switch, of course I'm going to encounter it more than average. Do you even know how the internet works? It's a great sorting machine. Try to think befo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 09:45 PM
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That was a general second person "You", not a specific. It describes the arrogance of the idiots who casually dismiss common sense observations - do you count yourself among them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 08:14 PM
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But you are trying to "correct the record" without any concrete data of your own We're not going to change the definition of masculinity so that it requires a pretty face and sculpted abs, no matter how often redpill men embarrass themselves on that front. And the edgelord act isn't fooling anyone outside of the internet. If you lack abstract reasoning, self-awareness, and common cultural knowledge, that's your handicap.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 08:01 PM
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Those of us unable to shield ourselves from other people's negative emotions wish we could share your innocence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 12:45 PM
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It's happening because RP has neglected everything outside the heuristic. When you claim the only error comes from rare unicorns who become self-aware, and freak statistical anomalies, it's reasonable for those who experienced any success using those heuristics, to then use them as guides in making sense of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 12:16 PM
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What is the difference? Apologies, I've never used Tinder. I thought it at least worked as a meat market for the shallow and impatient?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 12:12 PM
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Edit: For clarity. The redpill claims to offer advice for any man trying to get laid. A claim that's about as appealing on the surface as Fox's "Fair and Balanced." It just has a few rules. With straight women seeking masculine men. Who meet a single personality profile, to varying degrees. It also insists that love/romance is something you can just remove as a variable, as it's only an extension of Disney(comfort)/porn (excitement) values. Which is an accurate assessment of some of the most bor…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 11:55 AM
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The real problem is that we're missing a lot of the data we'd need to rule out possibilities. Most of the posters struggle to define abstract concepts like "masculinity" and "femininity", and when it comes to expressing their concrete reality? Those of us who get it, can only try to correct the record. There are also people who are only here to push their politics. A woman not interested in being dominated? A reasonably successful man who isn't dominant? The counterargument is "liar." and accusa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 11:48 AM
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Except you need to cherry pick which experiences you're allowing as canon in order to arrive at the redpill. If it were what you claim it is, all perspectives (or at least all male experiences) and all walks of life would be welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 11:29 AM
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This should be the top response every time this question is asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 10:00 AM
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He's probably making them uncomfortable because he's not responding to anything except the exact wording they're using.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 09:58 AM
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Plus, what about all the dark triads whose honesty only scared people away? And all the shallow people who just want a nice, stoic illusion? And those who continue to love them, no matter how bad for their long term emotional health? Isn't the redpill meant for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 09:35 PM
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Can't be. Honesty also works for men who aren't masculine. And the redpill assures me that's impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 09:32 PM
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I've seen the claim that the smiles are all hideous, and that only proves that the internet is a collection of misanthropic shut-ins. It also doesn't explain why women weren't running away screaming from male vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 09:25 PM
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Damn, those grey underwear shorts and balding scalps - women didn't stand a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 09:11 PM
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And another theory would be that goofy smiles are a default, and a social mask. It tells you nothing about the man wearing one. A woman who can't filter them out, is doomed. Meanwhile, shame can be a mystery. Or require healing, if it's the kind that's unearned. And it's a playground for a sadistmasochist. But the redpill asks that you ignore those complications. It's about simplicity, not accuracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 09:09 PM
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Bowed heads of shame aren't exclusive to badboys. There's plenty of good men who are down for some self-abuse. Also, we're dealing with a study of one group of people. Are you seriously going to argue that in a bar, being seen enjoying yourself - and bringing other people into that sphere - is a social death sentence? AWALT doesn't hold up to the slightest examination. It's just that redpill men were incredibly lazy when creating heuristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 09:00 PM
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Oh, you didn't even google the term. Pity. You might have learned something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 08:46 PM
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Because it's cherry picked. And because massive info dumps are seldom delivered in good faith. Here, explain the fact that some women are attracted, on a shallow level, to bowed heads of shame using redpill theory. Should be easy, since it's got everything covered.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 08:45 PM
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My girlfriend has dacryphilia. So did an ex. So, yes. The evidence they submitted was more credible than a random internet comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 08:19 PM
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You're talking about their smut. If we go by that logic, dudes don't want sex, they just want to watch pretend lesbians. With long fingernails.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 08:04 PM
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First sane answer in this whole thread. When did PPD turn into /r/conspiracy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 07:52 PM
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Some women are. Some have a fetish for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 07:44 PM
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You forgot the part where Albert Einstein's brain is only average sized. And where your answer is at the bottom of the article. I know reading is mentally taxing, but at least try to represent your side.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 07:43 PM
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Hence, why whales sing better than you do? Here's an expert, calling your bluff.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 07:11 PM
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Some. In general though, whenever I've watched women come on too strong, it's blown up in their faces as often as not. At least outside of the usual meat markets. This includes straight women. It's reliable enough that some of my friends used aggressive flirting to keep people at a distance. There used to be a poster here, /u/lollygagyo, who did the same thing after her rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 05:10 PM
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Except the arguments were that it put the best possible face on the manosphere, to give unearned credibility to a movement often defined by who it attacks rather than by who it helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 12:59 PM
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Good advice, but good luck convincing anyone around here. It's a sacred commandment in the manosphere that weird must fail. They love to play the part of the rebel, but they're about as punk as their STEM major. When they watch this video, they cry because they wanted to be a brick in the wall. Now they're left searching for the rules to the safest possible badboy act.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 11:57 AM
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Woman: Not being horribly deformed or smelling like rotting garbage I'm sure knowing this will cheer up every lonely lesbian I've ever known. And wow, do you overestimate how many guys actually back up their boasts when they're given a chance to suddenly prove them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 11:13 AM
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I doubt it's an insignificant minority of women, otherwise you wouldn't have so many guys reporting and lamenting over the same things. You're talking about men who lack basic social instincts, dark triads, and the walking wounded. Hardly a representative sample - they're a minority themselves. The meat market is cruel to them, but you've yet to present any evidence that most women are into no strings. The burden of proof is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 11:05 AM
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He's far from the only one. And instead of claiming we're all exceptions, just deal with the fact that there's more than one large group. It's not like demisexuals are unicorns.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 10:49 AM
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Except when it comes to negative ones. Then it's "No woman left behind!"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 10:48 AM
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Do you really think the State is any better? No. Either one will choke the life out of a society without checks and balances. But not everything that is necessary to create a functional society, turns a profit. And since business has repeatedly demonstrated it can't even be trusted not to poison us... Yes, some oversight is usually needed. You need things other people provide. Why should they provide them for you, if you can't do things of value for them? Exactly. Why should those you intend to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 01:30 AM
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I understand that providing an insurance mandate, along with all that free government cash was an incentive. I also understand that when you run a society entirely based on "How much can I get in terms of short term profits!?" you're vulnerable to sudden crashes, and high risk self-sabotage. You're encouraging dark triad thinking, which has been proven to absolutely murder emotional investment in creating a society together. A society, after all, is a social contract. When some wipe their asses …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 08:59 PM
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Your definition of good faith engagement is agreeing with your first premises. You're unable to debate me, so by all means, run away to your favorite safe place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 08:33 PM
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In case you haven't noticed, Obamacare didn't fail. It's imperfect, but it helped a lot of people. So why are you so emotional? Tell me why you think it's moral to run a society like a pyramid scheme, with those exploited to generate the wealth of those on top, not always even given a living wage? Life isn't a battle royale, and screaming "Socialism!" at every attempt to provide a stable safety net isn't an actual argument. Especially since trickle up economics has been proven to be more reliabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 08:28 PM
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Odd. We seemed to be doing pretty awesome as a country when the rich had to pay way more. And there was an actual middle class, being paid reasonably for their services. But at least they gave you a scapegoat to blame for the fall. How could money compare? By the way, speaking of failed economics. Oops. It turns out that the insurance industry was full of shit. There's a surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 08:20 PM
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They should ask the GOP why it's solution was "Let insurance raise prices." and "Underfund support for those in high risk categories." while "giving the wealthy more tax breaks."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 08:04 PM
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That's what the left looks like if you've spent way too much time looking at outrage porn. It does tend to frown on gay men voting against the interests of other gay men, just to line their own pockets. But that's basic sanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 07:54 PM
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Setting boundaries, like "If you're gay, you can't be one of us." "If you're trans, you're not one of us." Pretending that we were all a rainbow of tolerance until the left came along is a bit too much escapism for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 07:48 PM
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That's easy to say if you're not one of the people the right is shunning.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 07:35 PM
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Start with an audition. Really, if she wants someone to train her, she can tell them what she wants out of their time together - any Dom who knows what they're doing isn't going to just trust the good intentions of a complete stranger who takes 50 Shades way too seriously for her own good.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 07:21 PM
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You're talking about ONS vs. life partners. It's not that simple. Someone who works on becoming the most mindblowing fuck anyone could ask for, is only gaining SMV if they can't convince anyone to stick around. Meanwhile, there are plenty of trophy wives who use their looks to gain relationship value. There are enough shallow men who'll totally take bad sex if they get to show her off. Not all RMV is based on healthy relationships. Not all SMV is based purely on beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 06:10 PM
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In your OP, you're assuming that greater variance in white matter counts means more variance in personality. That's not how it works. Everyone lacking on that front is going to come across more robotic. In the same way, you're making serious errors about how writing works. Comparing it to brain size? A brain with a genius IQ is going to have more connections and internal messengers than a pure grey matter processing machine. It's why a dwarf can outsmart a giant, and why many men struggle to exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 06:02 PM
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Ah. Still a little bit surprised, then. Usually the redpill men are so unimaginative that they only manage to bore themselves to death, when handed a genuinely submissive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 05:47 PM
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Since I'm all for more healthy BDSM relationships, I gave searching for it my best effort, and couldn't find a blessed thing. This is the closest Google found.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 05:35 PM
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For example, I have a friend who runs a writing group that purposefully excludes "white males." When I pointed out how asinine that is, her justification was that the other members wouldn't feel comfortable otherwise. Apparently, she's happy to do her part for the kyriarchy - someone's got to make sure poor mentally ill transmen don't forget their privilege. I've never met her type offline, thankfully. The right is definitely guilty of drawing group borders, but tends to be more focused on the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 05:23 PM
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If you're using bluepill in the unawakened sense, sure. But most of the couples on the left I've known are closer to a tag team model. I'm not sure how you can even trust someone who regards herself as a prize just for existing. (Much less wants to be one.)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 05:11 PM
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Wait. He was surrounded by horny men. They nearly ate the barmaid. How was the beautiful woman he approached alone so often? Was it just that the script called for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 04:50 PM
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I know what you're talking about, I just don't see the connection to the left - unless we're talking centrists with money to burn. It's more tradcon.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 04:45 PM
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Ruthless competition is considered masculine. Out in the open, yes. Veiled? The feminine is expert at destroying a reputation with a few well chosen words, or convincing others to commit violence on it's behalf.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 04:43 PM
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the careful drawing of borders between in-group and out-group Weaponized shunning can be one of the most toxic feminine behaviors. But how are you defining it? The right is just as guilty of everything you'd call SJW.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 04:39 PM
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Extreme reactionaries, who try to be The Cool Girl TM in ways men try to be The Nice Guy TM. Both bury their personalities in order to be liked, and both can be cruel as hell to other members of the same gender. It's not healthy. I think that's what he's going for, anyways. But the redpill usually overdiagnoses that problem, so who knows?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 04:35 PM
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Good call.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 04:30 PM
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So, you're going to ignore all the states that refused the medicaid expansions, among other GOP sabotages? Because Obamacare's awfully popular for something that destroyed the country. Maybe you should get your news outside of rightwing sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 04:29 PM
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So, she's immature, and you didn't demand anything more from her. She's the top, you're the bottom. But you get to play the top. I suppose that's a comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 04:25 PM
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We give each other gifts in my relationships. Not sure what you're doing wrong, but maybe you shouldn't be such a doormat?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 04:23 PM
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So, basically it's like the /r/theredpill, and /r/incels, but it's more honest about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 04:20 PM
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And then you guys wonder why it always turns out she has serious maturity issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 04:19 PM
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Depends how in-depth you need. You probably know the basics. Style guides are practically a science all their own, and it's impossible to help you without knowing a thing about you. But to start, look into what tone of skin you have, and which color patterns suit it best. Healthy living is also neutral advice. Other things should be obvious, but if you lack the instinct for them, they might not be. Like, eliminate every "Huh" or "Ug", or whatever else fills in dead space. Learn to pause instead …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 03:57 PM
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Because most bluepill advice isn't designed for people with no social/empathic instincts. average man That's not the redpill's audience at all. Edit: And if it was serious about helping men who struggle, it'd stop demonizing the women most likely to look past any gender stereotypes. It's a political movement, more than a serious self-help one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 03:31 PM
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teach men not to rape You're complaining about snark, now? Do you know where the quote originally came from, and why? it's not that less women run for office or are not as able as the competition W and Trump both proved that straight white cis-men can fail upwards, if they're willing to be complete assholes about it. Considering the redpill's helping the GOP lower standards, you're not really in a position to be complaining about fragile snowflakes and quotas.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 03:24 PM
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Many of us can't know what it's like to be a racial minority - not in an intimate, live with it every day, first person kind of way. We can still observe when the redpill is completely full of self-serving bullshit about what it's like to be a man, or a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 04:49 AM
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So, if I understand you correctly, every man is a shallow child led to expect the shape of popular pornography in his bedroom, and if that demand's not met, they can't possibly generate enough genuine desire to inspire someone else's? You really need to stop reading so much of Reddit's redpill. You're completely disconnected from most people's reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 04:40 AM
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she seemed comfortable and curious. She didn't say no and she didn't hesitate. That's the context I keep coming back to. She's not once shy about sharing her opinion, and he's allowed to express his own. It's not like he wore her down. That, and her staring him straight in the eyes, for an entire 3 minutes, while holding him in a deathgrip. After she tried all kinds of horrible virgin ideas. She's very capable of expressing how she feels. And asking him questions. A single "Like this?" goes a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 12:26 AM
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And I have no idea why you think I'm accusing OP of being a rapist. My only stance has been that you don't know whether he read her right, or not. And because I have personal experience with needing the exact kind of partner he was trying to be, I submitted that as context for another possible way to read the situation, and her smile, and all that followed. One possible way. Yes, there are so many ways I wish I'd handled this conversation instead - but your sweeping dismissal of any possibility …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 03:10 PM
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Pity. You skipped the point about their history together, and you've got no insight on expressing yourself in purity culture. Because of course you don't. You do have an appeal to ignorance though, and an attempt to play to every possible outrage - oh, and wanting to keep ones clothes clean. You should be a politician. "Innocent until proven guilty? Everybody knows that's bullshit! Watch out!" Well, when someone tells you who they are, you should generally listen Yes, you should. But - Your tend…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 11:57 AM
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It's not up to you or him to decide what poor, oppressed Catholics need to be liberated from their inhibitions No, that was her decision to make, and not yours. That attitude is much more galling coming from a supposed adult. Heaven forbid I allow anyone to seduce me. I'm not going to answer your nosy, invasive questions Because you're not really here to debate. You've written your script, and you'll defend it to the death. awkward And? didn't want to kneel In a bathroom stall, who can blame her…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 03:34 AM
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He doesn't know hers as they've never had any kind of sexual contact before so he shouldn't be making assumptions on her behalf about whether her reluctance is genuine or not. They'd been talking about intimate things for a decent while, before the scene happens. They'd built up a trust before. And have you ever been forced to play the purity role in purity culture? Do you know how liberating it can be, for someone to just take the lead? I'm seriously asking. Some gay men do. Some don't. But if …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 11:53 PM
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Update: Kid actually seemed to want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 10:05 PM
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And you talk about a strawman? I only said that purity culture complicates matters, and that you can't tell how serious her initial reluctance was based on that vague description. And I'm not going to join the mob without hearing her side. Simply dismissing his, because...? Why? Do you know the difference between soft limits and hard? Either way - I also said that the moment someone trusts you with their private parts, and you agree to the whole thing - regardless of your motives - you have a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 09:32 PM
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I like the part where you ignored the whole "IT ONLY BECAUSE MILLENIAL MEN ARE SO PATHETIC! HAHAHA ONLY THEIR MOMMY LOVES THEM!!" I don't care what the subject is, that kind of brain damage is offensive. Did you vote for Trump, by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 08:01 PM
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Nothing in my comments overlooks that, I specifically stated that she wanted to get him off. Yes, after carefully ruling out any possibility that would require her to behave like a decent partner. I'm sorry, but if you're going to agree to play with someone's bits, at least try to be a little bit unselfish and check in with them. At worst, OP was overeager and misread her smile. On her end, even when she adjusted her approach to his body, she did so, badly. Nothing she did - in his telling of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 07:50 PM
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So now jerking someone off in a public bathroom is her fantasy? No, it's his fantasy. Her's remains unknown, other than she was curious, and she really did want to get him off - parts you prefer to overlook. Ditto the date this all leads to. blood magic ritual Yes, that's completely as likely as someone not immediately going for an idea, but being willing to see where it goes. Tell me. Do you always use crude heuristics, when you judge strangers? And how passive-aggressive are you, when dealing …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 05:46 PM
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It's disgusting. How is it even legal? Why don't we ever talk about the actual conspiracies to keep people ignorant in this subreddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 03:57 PM
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What does this have to do with convincing someone to jerk you off in a public toilet? You mean the part where those two horny/curious idiots put their heads together, and came up with what seemed like an obvious way for her to explore her curiosity without either one getting caught? planned Heaven forbid they change on the fly. You keep assuming her smirk and too much enthusiasm should be ignored, because...? Because of how you imagine it went down? Because it was one sided, and she didn't allow…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 03:43 PM
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Our ancestors were getting off to sex with demons. Some people always want to explore the taboo - but sex itself isn't nearly as taboo as it used to be. So where will imaginations wander next? It's always fun watching a relatively conservative subreddit like PPD guess their way through topics like this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 03:13 PM
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I've been in her situation, except I have PTSD and a fear of sex. So, think about that for a moment - I'm scared, nearly to the point of flight or fight. I'm a virgin. I have no clue, what I'm doing. And I had to be talked through it, because it wasn't enough that I wanted to do it too. Based on the code of ethics you're presenting me, how badly would I be allowed to hurt her sensitive lady parts? Can I just completely ignore how good it is for her, and not ask any questions? Because in OP's sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 01:40 PM
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No, you're reading it right. There's always the possibility that she's amazing at acting, and this is just a cool girl trap where she secretly gets nothing out of it, because she thinks this is how you win love - but she'd be taking advantage of his innocence, while he gets all the blame for taking advantage of her's. Reddit's take goes out of it's way to play up gendered stereotypes, in the laziest possible fashion. It fails in every way to seriously deal with her agency, while demanding he ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 01:29 PM
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By standards for herself - I meant anyone could tell she took him getting soft pretty hard. That finally got through to her. If she had no conscience at all, she would have blamed him for it, and did everything in her power to make the moment hurt worse than it already did. Their back and forth apologies afterwards shows that they're at least more mature than Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 01:20 PM
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Everyone in this story is young, and following what they were taught are the appropriate social scripts. Minus the part where she mauled his penis, and took personal offense to criticism. Since when is that ever an appropriate reaction? Neither innocence or mixed emotions justify that kind of behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 01:01 PM
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They've never needed to warm up to an idea, or hoped for a welcome push to get them past their soft limits. Add in the setting, which is either the perfect playground/science lab for two eager students, or a dehumanizing and unsanitary cage for a girl who doesn't yet dare to say no, depending on the viewer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 12:49 PM
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If every time I'd ever protested was used in a public trial against my partners, I would have hunted down and executed every single one of my would be defenders. Some of us will never not experience some discomfort. Especially once purity culture contaminates the waters.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 12:34 PM
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I assume he posted about this because it was his first/one of his first sexual experiences and he wasn't expecting for his partner to be as bad as she was. She really was. I'm surprised at the amount of posters imagining he corrupted an innocent angel with his selfish....innocence? Or, almost as bad, just shrugging her bad behavior off. Good thing she seems to have set her own standards for herself, or who knows where this would all end?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 12:20 PM

I have a brain Everyone does. Yours is a hamster wheel.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 11:59 PM
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You call every woman a liar who doesn't confirm your prejudices. If that's not cherry picking, it's only because most of the work was already done for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 11:39 PM
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This comment is TRP goldmine You guys should get paid for all the cherry picking you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 11:34 PM
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I never thought I'd be agreeing with you, but - I actually prefer genuine women. I say this a lot because it's true. I don't like women who are pretending to be something they aren't. That's it, simple as that. I've dated girly girls. I've dated Tomboys. I've dated extroverts and introverts. I really enjoy them all. Every type of personality has it's upside and downside. Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 11:33 PM

What sucks, and this is a real problem that I've thought a lot about, is that the less attractive people all (of both genders this is not a gendered issue) is that they all still want to date the very top attractive people. You're not nearly as deep as you think you are. Most people don't approach life like a meat market, and many who do, quickly learn that it's a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 11:30 PM
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If it's nowhere near as good as what we can do to each other, what's the point? Most porn is boring as Hell. It's like the WWE of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 11:21 PM
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You have a girlfriend? This changes everything. No doubt, you've both delighted in every sin, and created so many new ones that you've yet to name them all. I apologize for thinking you were at all sheltered. Enjoy your shopping together.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 11:17 PM
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In any reality, I'm not sure why you think women don't have kinky preferences of their own, of which incest is just one. It's pretty obvious that you've lived a sheltered life. But if winning this conversation is important to you, by all means, celebrate. You need it more than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 02:27 PM
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I knew you'd make it up to me. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 02:19 PM
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I'm not into incest porn. Clearly, considering how little you know about the demographics who consume it. But your rant was everything I could have hoped for. Thanks for the laugh. Edit: Oh, you were talking about terrible mainstream porn, and not erotica or kinkplay. That's disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 02:14 PM
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Just curious - do you think everyone into incest porn wants to fuck their own family? If so, how many drugs did it take to get you there? Edit: Or was it a pre-existing condition?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 10:35 AM
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They've been extinct for ages. But half of PPD lives in the past, so we can't rule it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 09:17 AM
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Like most, I prefer to learn by doing. But a story will take me further than instructions. Apparently, my dad had to make up a story about hoop snakes before I'd tie my shoes. It's not that bad now, but it still takes reading instructions multiple times before I'd trust myself, while the subtext in a story often seems obvious, and it's a wonder why so many other people were left behind. Everything I've ever learned about seduction was taught to me through narrative arcs, and I count myself lucky…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 09:13 AM
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Yes. Which society were we talking about again? Laputa? Vulcan? Camazotz?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 08:55 AM
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There's multiple types of nice. The kind that's attractive (not to everyone) is a good man who lifts others up to his level, instead of tearing them all down or enabling their worst behaviors. He's not afraid to challenge you, and he's not afraid to be challenged. You know he has your back, as long as you have his. His kindness comes from a place of strength. The kind that the redpill would rather talk about just has an underdeveloped personality. He's terrified of confrontation, and rejection, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 03:05 AM
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What do you mean by this? People who can't control themselves are easy to seduce. They never see the sudden brick wall that suddenly ends the fantasy you've prepared for them. Blue balls (or blue walls) do the rest. What did you mean here? I wasn't ready for sex. Reddit's worst let it be known that anyone with my issues about it was either disgusting, completely broken, or a liar, and I ate up all the hate. It was my own black pill. Suddenly, it felt like I needed to have sex, just to redeem mys…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 09:02 PM
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How big can a population be, before they're not an outlier anymore? You guys don't have any problems looking for the outliers who confirm redpill pessimism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 07:08 PM
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Where does RP really address them much? It doesn't. It goes out of it's way to pretend they're irrelevant to men struggling with the sexual market place, but they've been the most reliable guides around. Most know what it's like to struggle with "Who initiates?" and "I've been ashamed for my interest in women" in a way that conservative straight women don't. And they can also provide insight on what it's like to be on the opposite end of it all. The redpill should be begging them for their anecd…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 06:56 PM
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Prove it. Who doesn't it account for? Bisexual and pansexual women, for one thing. I keep waiting for it to explain why they'd only be sexually attracted to traditional hyper-masculinity and all they seem to have is hamster pellets. You guys also can't explain why gender non-conformity works out so well for so many guys who wouldn't count themselves among the beautiful people. "FEMINISTS CUCK LIBTARDS!!!" isn't an argument so much as a cry for help from a dying elephant. An especially stupid one…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:59 PM
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You're ignoring that there are solid starting points. All of which I found through feminist BDSM kink. The things that are exclusively redpill are only useful for dealing with a limited set of personality types - 3 for men, and one for women. It's claims to cover all men and women (unless we're talking about the few honest outliers) are pure hype.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:25 PM
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Most normal heterosexual men think 90% of the manosphere is a great source of painful cringe inducing comedy. You really need to leave your safe places more often, no matter how warmly they welcome angry manifestos and alt-right nonsense about the law of the jungle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:20 PM
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I'm a demisexual. I want friends first. First. Think about that word. It implies a sequence. What's in that sequence? Someone without serious social impairment will naturally help to escalate things, or even initiate themselves. In the right moment. If you lack those instincts, it's your handicap. Own it, and stop whining about conspiracies. Do I need to dumb it down further for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:09 PM
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Thank you for taking the time. I'm placing this post in my favorites, for the next time the subject comes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:06 PM
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No, it means "Don't act like a kid who just discovered 4chan." You guys take it to the opposite extreme, and then whine when that doesn't work. It's pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:01 PM

Creating Theory to Fit the Evidence. This is like figuring things out backwards, although apparently that's forward to her, think about that. You run an experiment, and based on the results you conclude whatever you can. It's completely unscientific. It's called the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 04:56 PM
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Especially to idiots who read "Act like a platonic friend" into it. They're idiots who need way less mock pity from opportunistic internet misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 04:53 PM
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Nah, it just assumes you're not an idiot who needs all the basics explained to you, in every single post. I know, that's dangerous around these parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 04:47 PM
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I'm 5'6'' too. Her post is far from "just be nice and someday magic." But keep lecturing us on how we're all supposed to be miserable. It plays well to people who pity themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 04:42 PM
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I doubt we'd agree on our ratings, but most of that post is pure gold, and the first sentence should be stickied. If you're going to be cynical, and assume the least in everyone, until they prove otherwise, that's the healthiest way to go about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 04:06 PM
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No, the way to do it is to be realistic about the value of sex, and not treat it like you're going to die if you don't get it right away. It wasn't a priority for me, so I came by my DGAF attitude naturally. And soon, I was the one playing gatekeeper, auditioning anyone interested in what I had to offer, and cutting them off if we were wasting each other's time. Or just fucking with their heads, if they were assholes about it. It wasn't until I discovered Reddit, and started giving a crap what i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 03:59 PM
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There's nothing more to be said. Your post said it all, and better than I would have.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 12:05 PM
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Occams razor tells me that they just call everyone a normie invader to REE more. I'll grant you that one. But. 10 posts to /r/incels makes you a top poster? Their top posters can spam five times that many variations of "Women would just kill us, if they were strong enough to do it with their bare hands." in a single week. We're also talking about 37 accounts out of 37,000 subscribers to /r/thebluepill. And some of those probably belong to men hate watching it for their own meta outrage. Even exc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 12:03 PM
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Poverty is a bigger handicap than race or sex. Sure, it can be overcome if you're talented and determined enough, and you avoid all the traps - but how many people does that really cover?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 11:40 AM
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Have you seen how often /r/incels whines about normie invaders?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 11:29 AM
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The face is a canvas, and make-up is just another medium. Have you seen some of the looks they pull off over in /r/makeupaddiction? You don't need to like it, but at least acknowledge that there's more to it than attracting a partner or landing a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 11:14 AM
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You're aware that most of us have a working knowledge of aesthetics? Many men and women are aware of when they look their best, whether or not there's a witness. But on the other hand, thank you for the mental image of a manosphere Tyler Durden, rambling incoherently about women while encouraging men to tear civilization down.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 11:08 AM
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It's rare when we agree on anything, but...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 11:01 AM
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Sure, they're terrible measures. They're too vague, for one thing. But they're not just bashing straight white cis men. I'm a straight white cis guy, and I almost won the high score for low privilege with a 22 out of 100. Here's the tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 10:56 AM
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If I were to take an educated guess, by your use of "ghost", I'd guess that it's the woman who ghosted him, not the other way around. Flinging hamster pellets in my face isn't an educated guess. Thanks for proving why we don't debate incels anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 10:43 AM
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Show me one (1) who genuinely escapes the Chad mold. Already did. Your hamster wheel is still spinning. You also seem to have no curiosity - you're pretending you're the scientific explorer? Hahahahaha - good one! Is it bigotry if it's true? It is when it's pulled out of your ass. I know that the Nazis had their gas chambers, but you're going about it all wrong. Here's a few rough examples. Most of the population ends up having sex with someone who wants to have sex with them. You're supposed to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 10:42 AM
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Your "proof" is cherry-picking random shit on the internet, and screaming "THAT'S ALL THERE IS!" because you're so narcissistic that you think we all have a vested interest in lying to you. And you're such a bigot that it doesn't even register that you're insulting every woman on the planet, because you, personally, can't deal with them as individuals. Your posts are just an endless list of bullshit excuses. If scientists behaved the way you do, they'd have hung the guy who discovered black hole…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:51 AM
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"I gave my body to Christ, and when I did, I met [boyfriend' name]" is a bit suspicious. Yeah, it's like she believes in The Force guiding her to her true love. Only she pretends it talks back. And that creepy happy grin..why can't she be miserable like the manosphere is? insults aren't the way to change people's views So stop calling everyone you disagree with a liar, hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:40 AM
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I'd say they were. The type of dude who has success in casual sex is almost certainly a high level dude. The guy who fakes love isn't. Why would he need to fake it, otherwise? Bullshit. Bull-shit. Wow, you're triggered. You do know the average guy laughs at /r/incels and has multiple partners over a lifetime? If they're so ForeverAlone, what's stopping them from dating MALE foreveralones? Some do. Others tried. And since you've never had to try to date male forever alones, let's talk about how i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:36 AM
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You saw a couple who obviously loved each other, and used the shittiest, lamest excuses in order to discount that love. "BUT SHE'S A CHRISTIAN!" "She could be lying!" Do you have any pride? You sure don't have any dignity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 04:50 AM
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What I HAVENT seen is a woman specifically PREFERRING an unattractive man, when she has access to better men. Yes, you did. Your excuses were pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 04:41 AM
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It might be because I'm a guy, but I'm pretty sure you can figure out if a guy just wants you for sex. I was used by a woman who just wanted me for sex. Some of us really do believe the fairy tales we're promised. And sometimes, those telling the tales believe them in the moment. Sounds to me like they're dating\having sex with high-level dudes. Laughs. No. They weren't. The average guy doesnt have the "lol this girl might like me, but fuck her, I can find a BETTER chick!" mentality. The average…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 04:40 AM
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Implying that "some" guys HAVENT ignored her. Which means either they DIDNT ignore her, and the attention wasnt positive, or they DIDNT ignore her, and she didnt wanna be with them. She covered that. Those who didn't ignore her, either shit on her when they met her in public, or gave her a few dates that led to no relationship. I've watched my forever alone friends take guys up on their offers, only to have their hearts broken when it turned out the guy was only after sex, or threw her away the …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 04:16 AM
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Women who like conventionally unattractive traits in men are 1000+ times rarer, if they even exist at all. Because you call them all liars when they do - no matter how polite you are, you do a shit job of hiding what a ignorant bigot you are. You even saw a happy couple who couldn't keep their hands off of each other, and you still tried to claim she was forcing herself to tolerate him, for Christ? Please grow up I talk to children on their level. I've no interest in helping you delude yourself …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 04:03 AM
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You found a screencap of someone complaining - if that's evidence now, here. That took no effort at all. But let's look at your post. Here's the context. He's a pretty boy who can't get over his victim complex. I'd kill to look like he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 03:35 AM
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Except for all those guys who specifically love shy\insecure girls. Who cares? Your argument is that there aren't any women into shy/insecure guys. I've been laughing at you ever since, but if you're finally admitting you were wrong, thank Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 03:24 AM
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You've decided that every guy has the traits of the best of men, and every woman has the traits of the worst women. And that's wasting my time. You can't defend it. You're not even trying. You demand evidence that even a single woman isn't the way you've claimed, and then when confronted with that proof - over and over again - you snivel about conspiracies to deceive you and find excuses to dismiss. Unfortunately, I don't have all day to cyberstalk people, in order to get the level of proof you …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 03:16 AM
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From your description, they sound like dopeamine addicts who demand an immediate hit before they can pretend to be civilized. It's a child's maturity. Unless only you meant they're not going to respond to any attempt from a short guy to hit on them. In which case, nevermind, my apathy is back to neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 03:16 PM
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What age did you have your first PiV sexual experience at? Late in life. I'd sworn I'd wait until marriage before anything more than a kiss, but that stance was ruining every relationship I was in. Nobody was that patient. I've probably set the subreddit's record for the number of serious relationships... So I finally lost it just to lose it. In your own perspective, do you feel satisfied with the amount of women you have slept with I would have preferred just one. do you feel successful with wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 03:10 PM
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I like your hard, ugly toenails Nice try. And everyone's bad at dancing and has terrible taste in music? Those are attractive traits on your planet? Not here. Irrationally insecure? Irrationally angry? Those are deal breakers for a lot of people. And loving his love of dead skin flakes? If you expect those to be popular, no wonder why you're struggling. I can't imagine what a romantic date movie looks like on your planet. And no, we're not going to ignore how your link gave men credit for loving…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 02:06 PM
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You're still trying to convince me that every woman has the same core personality, underneath. Keep at it - show off your virtue, and enjoy your placebo. You've earned it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 04:15 AM
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I prefer this. Nobody left a comment, and it was quietly ignored. But it's one of the most beautiful and honest expressions of what it's like to be in love that I've ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 03:05 AM
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Another couple. Context: They're artists. They often dress in identical clothes, because they used to be the same size, and whee! Love! Not sure what their story is. I'm trying to avoid cyber stalking anyone who wants to remain private. Unless their information is already out there, you're kind of on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 01:45 AM
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One who is submissive to her own wife, but dominates my mind. Not sure why you think she can't be fun, too. She's never hesitated to challenge me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 12:02 AM
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Lots of anecdotes out there. Not sure why you're cherry-picking. Are you just terrified of hope, or are you yet another dark triad praying everyone's equally broken?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:58 PM
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It would require me to care enough to actually go out of my way to validate their extended childhood. I'm not seeing how it's worth the cost? I'm curious, but only in the "It would be nice if one magically appeared." sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:56 PM
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We've known each other for years now, and she still loves me. What else have you got?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:50 PM
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Eh, I'm broke, and my girlfriend forgives me. But tell me more about the exciting virtues of mindless pessimism? What's in it for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:35 PM
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Context.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:27 PM
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I like these two, how about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:13 PM
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Here. Explain them. You said you'd admit defeat if I could find even a single non-celebrity couple not ashamed to share their private lives with the internet. I'm holding you to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 09:32 PM
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Okay, now explain the part where it passionately hates the Addams family.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 07:05 PM
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Okay, so let me get this straight - you hate mainstream pop music, and your opinion of the same is something I'm supposed to take seriously as an objective fact? And you seriously want to argue that with billions of dollars on the line, record companies went with pretty boys to be the face of their music, because...why? They're just altruistic that way? "Poor guy would have died in an alley, with only a stray cat willing to fuck him. But now..." You are a joke. SHOW ME THEM, THEN. YOU CANT SAY "…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 07:00 PM
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Hey, hypothetical guy, check out how happy the redpill can make you. Edit: a guy lashing out about not being pandered to That's TRP's mission statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 06:41 PM
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If you dismiss everything that doesn't reflect your own dick's adventures, I doubt reposting it is going to make a difference. Christ, you guys still can't explain why some women are attracted to shame displays and gender non-conformity, but you want us to take you seriously as sexperts?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 06:32 PM
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I WANT women to have different tastes in men like men do No, you don't. You've taken a demonstration of different tastes, a man who is literally paid money to fulfill those tastes, and you've started your hamster wheel spinning at a thousand miles per hour in the opposite direction. You're so full of shit, that you think corporations can just make anyone famous, despite all the many failed attempts that suggest otherwise. You're so full of shit, that you can't imagine women with their own prefer…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 06:28 PM
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Bisexual women are attracted to men. Pansexual women are attracted to men. What? Women who are attracted to all genders, and many expressions of gender. Also - He's famous, though. His fans made him famous. Why did they pay for his shit? There are a lot of hyper-masculine men they could be drooling over instead. I fulfilled your request, and you moved the goalposts, again. Let's review, shall we? Any science you don't like is bullshit. Anyone with a different experience is biased. I need to excl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 05:50 PM
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the hottest women you can fuck without committing. Do friends with benefits count? Because I'm not interested in complete strangers. Also, am I measuring her by the redpill's ideas on looks alone? And if so, can you tell me whether not wearing make-up counts for her or against - I can't seem to find a consensus on a lack of traditional femininity? Should I subtract points due to the popularity of racism in the redpill?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 05:31 PM
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I dont know where you got "deeper than a shallow asshole", but if you can show me an example of a woman genuinely preferring traits in men other than the typical Chad (tall, buff, popular, etc), I will happily concede my point to you, and one big pillar of Incel theories will be dispelled. Short, skinny, and feminine features. See the idiots fangirling over him? Notice that they're doing it in English? Why did the music industry think he could make money for anyone? This must have been such a ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 05:16 PM
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Got it. So, if I post a screenshot of a woman - my girlfriend, for example - being deeper than a shallow asshole, what happens then? Do I need to prove I'm not a beautiful asshole? Do we need to dox ourselves in order to be taken seriously? Do we need to invite you to watch us consummate our relationship? Another question - where are you meeting the shallow assholes that define women for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 04:35 PM
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A. You're trying to make a case that all women are this way. If I wanted proof some women are shallow, I'd just post some hot nonsense to Tinder, and have fun insulting horny idiots, while they beg me for more. I'm not denying its compensations, but it's an overrated experience. B. You're asking me to ignore my own experiences. That's where you lose me. I know you can't stand when people do that to you, so why are you pulling that shit on me, and everyone else who had a different experience than…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 04:25 PM
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I'm a guy. Basically, you're trying to make your case by telling me to ignore my own experiences, and calling any studies you don't like "feel good lies." Once again, thank you for proving why incel topics are banned here. Until you can bring me something better than the dumpsterfire you've come up with so far, I'm just going to ignore you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 04:13 PM
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Why should I ignore this when it confirms my own experience? Or this? Don't even try to claim that flings are the real test of a woman's desire, because I'm not interested in your fantasy life. I'm not one of the beautiful people. And I'm only an asshole to assholes. Meanwhile, my good deeds allowed me to meet so many people, and opened so many doors to me, that otherwise would have been slammed shut. But. I don't see any way to convince you, because it won't be real to you, until it actually ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:54 PM
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As far as I know, literally all women. You're very sheltered. What do you mean? I reckon I adressed everything. You simply went with "NOT REAL TO ME, SO I CAN IGNORE IT!" Not sure you know how debate works. You want to pretend every woman secretly wants good looking assholes? Prove it. Start with "This rage boner won't take care of itself." and finish your incoherent rant with "Every man and woman who says otherwise is trying to trap me! REEEEEEEEEEE! STAY AWAY, NORMIES!"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:35 PM
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People usually wont resent you unless you're an asshole to them. That's why most male virgins don't struggle to lose it the way incels do. They had some bad experiences, and they let it poison them. IT KINDA SEEMS LIKE HAVING A NEGATIVE PERSONALITY IS IRRELEVANT WHEN YOU'RE HOT. If you love shallow assholes, sure. But thanks for the demonstration. You completely ignored every point I made, in order to share your one dimensional obsession. Edit: This is why we banned incel topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:20 PM
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I learned to see the world through the perspectives of those who lack empathic instincts. Of course they feel disposable - they can't connect to others. And how can they hope to understand abstractions like "I'm uncomfortable." or all the ways a night can be magical, even to an atheist? And it's only fair that they'd question whether empathic instinct - with it's many flaws and vulnerabilities - even exists. I also learned that they're annoying as Hell to debate, because anything they can't thro…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:05 PM
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I never said anything about me putting any effort into it - you're asking me to actually care. But. Mutual "not giving a shit about each other" just sounds like pair bonding's working the way it should, to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 01:56 PM
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You notice that the holocaust was perpetrated in an impersonal manner: the men pouring poison into the shower room were kept from seeing the anguish on their victims' faces. Yes, that's how basic dehumanization works. It's designed to shut down any instinctive or emotional empathy for those outside your mental tribe. It's harder to keep going, when you're actually confronted with their humanity. Here, check out a horrible human being trying to do it to men, in general. She's banned and deleted e…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 01:42 PM
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I imagine I'd run into it more if I was just exchanging stats with someone like we were in a Pokemon battle. It's the geekiest thing I've ever heard of, and all my friends are proud geeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 12:37 PM
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Dear patriarchy bot - you have good intentions, and I love you for it. But you're pretty clueless when it comes to the ways it advantages powerful men to completely wreck other men in every single way they can. There's no universal brotherhood. Claiming all men benefit from patriarchy, without another axis present, is the kind of oversimplification that anti-feminists adore. Otherwise, why are black men getting more jail time than black women? White men more than white women? And don't use benev…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 12:29 PM
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You're assuming this is how people openly act in real life. No, I'm simply aware that when people quietly resent me, the last thing I want to do is reward them for it. It goes double for those who overcompensate with sucking up in order to hide it. If you're saying how smart\confident\other compliment a guy is jut because he's good looking, and you wanna bang him, that's the equivalent of a "Nice Guy" throwing out compliments hoping to get laid. Yes, it is. It's why most people can't stand eithe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 12:05 PM
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I don't know beyond my own feelings on the matter, so I need a larger sample set to determine if it's a reasonable claim. If it were a reasonable claim, every woman with a higher libido than her partner would have been hailed as a hero. With that said, men and women raised to believe sex is about more than just sex, may experience real pain when it's denied them. But it's the pain of rejection and alienation - exactly the same thing their partners may feel, if their own emotional needs are ignor…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:57 AM
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Okay, now expand on it. Women who are with women, and women who don't want children don't count, because why...? Next question: Have you ever experienced the drug-like rush and sheer wonder of escaping a bad relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:27 AM
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I'm 5'6'', and surrendered my virginity to a taller woman. My SO is smaller than I am - I think she's the smallest I've ever been with? Anyways, height's just a number. At this point, I'd like to meet someone shallow about our heights just for the experience. I'm talking "It's an instant deal breaker, and I'm pretty vocal about it", not "I had to deal with his complaints about high heels the entire time. Never again." Edit: Online doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:13 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Incels/comments/6l5wn2/femoids_are_a_disease/ Yes, it is. If you're going to offer "The beautiful people can find shallow assholes who'll say anything to get in their pants." as proof that all women are shallow - actually, I'd like to know how that works. Take me through the steps that got you there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:00 AM
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Here's a better idea - you describe how the Nazis were able to sentence the Jewish population to death, and what turned Rwanda's people against each other? And if it wasn't the propaganda, what was it? Explain away why we can see the exact same tropes used by every hate group? Edit: Do you need proof hate exists too? Then we'll cover why you're unable to recognize what's pretty obvious to most of the population - even atheists. Is it deliberate ignorance, or a serious handicap?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:06 AM
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Okay, I'm willing to pretend all the WW2 historians who describe the dehumanizing impact of Nazi propaganda are feminists. Even the ones who vote Republican. And I'll even sign on for the idea that you could measure it like radiation or ectoplasm - once you explain how to measure intent and cognitive function from particles in the air. My question is - once we're done playing make believe, why should I take any of your nonsense the least bit seriously? How about we skip to the part where you rus…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 08:13 AM
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Yes, I totally Skype with ISIS every night, and we discuss intersectional feminism and murdering rape survivors. When you come down from your crack+LSD combo high, please feel free to rejoin the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 12:22 AM
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It's not reality, it's a pessimistic distortion. First of all, PTSD? Not everyone is even vulnerable to it. Second, I've got PTSD, bad, and we wouldn't even be together if I didn't have it - it feels like dying, or going mad, and it's Hell, but when you come out the other side? If there's an angel waiting for you? Oh, and the episodes don't even last that long. And there are treatments. Plus, there are military who value lifelong commitment - my parents were among them. Nobody can predict the fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 12:15 AM
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Because you're often talking to young men who need to be taught how to handle basic social situations. Those attraction triggers just don't register to them. It's why they confuse playful teasing with actually being a dark triad asshole. It's why they don't understand actually liking someone - they actually need numerical values to process any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 11:31 PM
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Dark triads are only popular until people get to see what's underneath the surface.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:40 PM
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It also throws in some light power play. It's incredibly conservative, once you look past the libertarian aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:35 PM
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I've seen a popular thread defending lies (it claims women love being lied to, and it's in their nature), and another arguing victims of abuse deserve it. Once you're in the mindset where you think either of those things is a good thing, or at least morally neutral? It's easier for those who wish to disconnect themselves from their conscience, to do so. It's not that the redpill creates many novel outcomes, so much as it weakens the barriers against creating some pretty bad ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:29 PM
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Also - And adopting a many of the dark triad traits as you can is also a very good idea because women find that super attractive. Which is why dark triads fake being really into her, and so many women dump their stupid asses after they unveil their true form? Keep in mind, we're talking about reality here, not teenage power fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:24 PM
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Well dehumanizing women is a good way to adopt the attitude that women find attractive. Especially for the fucking children who can't take them off the pedestal otherwise. Or those dreamers too lost in their internet fantasy lives to know the difference between sex games and politics. But. Congratulations on finally getting laid. When you stop pretending every woman wants what the redpill is offering, let me know. I don't like being drafted into other people's wank material.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:15 PM
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Okay, so how could I have dehumanized these women as per TRP's instruction? I'm only asking for a hypothetical example of a non retarded person's immoral usage of TRP. Why would you want to dehumanize those who are already giving you what you both want? It's when red uses it as a weapon against the people that they can't benefit from, that there's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 07:53 PM
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Google: de·hu·man·i·za·tion dēˌ(h)yo͞omənəˈzāSH(ə)n/Submit noun the process of depriving a person or group of positive human qualities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehumanization Dehumanization or an act thereof can describe a behavior or process that undermines individuality of and in others. It's the redpill's favorite shtick - it claims to be concerned with results only, but it wants to control who can publish their results, cherry picks research, and it censors any concerns with its method…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 07:39 PM
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Aside from married people and ugly people, men and women cannot be "just friends" Nah, adults deal with any attraction that comes up like adults, and move on. Unless you're talking about serious developmental/maturity issues. of course, since male friendship is so much better than the female version of enabling bullshit. Men don't enable each other? Pretty sure the Darwin awards would disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 06:15 PM
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Oh, it's a strawman. I'm not sure why you think acknowledging the range of human diversity is the same as blank slate, but I'm sure there's an exciting origin story. and Egocentrism predicts that you cannot see things from outside your perspective. Which is why the redpill needed the internet to offer help, and raises bloody hell whenever you complicate matters. There's a lot of future /r/raisedbynarcissists material.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 06:10 PM
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You miss the 50's, don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 05:49 PM
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I know you do. Dunning-Kruger predicts that you'd never question yourself. This is a terrible strategy for most women, since their brain and body is built for pregnancy and a family. It only really helps fat/ugly girls. When you reduce women to indiscriminate reproductive functions, it just reminds me that you've forgotten how to use the head on your shoulders.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 05:48 PM
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So, how do you explain confident and charismatic ugly people, and pretty people who give women the creeps? This sounds like the kind of thing people tell themselves when they have severely damaged social instincts, and need every advantage to compensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 05:39 PM
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Or I could look at Literotica and all the smutty fanfiction. Not to mention the direction so many roleplays went, back when I'd write with anyone about any subject they cared to explore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:34 PM
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Women's bodies are more sensitive to testosterone. It's why a high T woman will have a higher libido than a low T man, even if he has more T than she does. If you're going to raise awareness about the differences between the sexes, at least know what you're talking about. Right now, you're impossible to take seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:24 PM
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Not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:46 PM
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It talked about actual feminists concepts, and broke them down for the lay public. But sure, focus on the giant robots, if that's all your attention span managed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:40 PM
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It was literally everywhere. It's easier for us to just ignore you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:28 PM
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It's moderation when we're taking a break from it, because we're sick of whiners flooding the board with their bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:26 PM
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But moderation isn't. We're allowed to have a functioning debate subreddit, no matter how desperate some people are to hijack it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:19 PM
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Triple A studios are so oppressed! Free speech for everyone, unless they offend Rockstar! It's so sensitive...why must the world be so cruel? ;_;
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:05 PM
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Moderates don't behave like that, no matter how desperately you want an excuse. Stop behaving like a demon.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:02 PM
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You "demonize" demons. But not humans. Your emotional investment in attacking moderates too, and anyone who defends them, reveals what this is really about to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 12:57 PM
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Unaware of feminist games, unaware of producers needing to know there's an audience before they'll fund anything... Typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 12:55 PM
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I'm talking about /r/incels. The place where this shit currently has a positive score, and roughly half the subreddit agrees. OP is a rapist, by the way. And have you seen some of their faces? Watching pretty boys whine about lookism defeats the entire argument right there. Their brain damaged attempts to claim nobody's into their aesthetic would be worth noting if it wasn't for the success of those without their personality disorders.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 12:11 PM
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Feminist geeks want characters they can relate to! MALE OPPRESSION! I'd give a shit if you just hated all geeks and their opinions equally. Not much of one - escapism isn't evil, and can help people through some rough times - but it'd be more than your complaint merits now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 11:47 AM
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I am yet to see a single Western establishment feminist show any public sympathy for people like Ayan Hirsi Ali, whose life story is an inspirational one. Until recent, she used that inspirational story to demonize others. In a 2007 article in Reason magazine, Hirsi Ali said that Islam, the religion, must be defeated and that "we are at war with Islam. And there's no middle ground in wars."[6] She said, "Islam, period. Once it's defeated, it can mutate into something peaceful. It's very difficul…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 11:44 AM
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I wish more women would care about men's issues. Most of the women I've met do, at least until I engage with the tribes of the internet. But they regard MRAs with as much suspicion as they do feminists, and tend to judge both by their worst examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 11:20 AM
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3rd wave were the daughters of the 2nd wave. The 90's were recent? The wage gap refers to men overall and women overall. Ignoring which jobs are overpaid and which are underfunded? Of course anti-feminists do. They're not really much for debate beyond their gotcha. He's really going to pretend female bosses don't experience extra judgement? And asking for consideration from polite society is the same as censorship? It's very easy to debate people if you only look at their extremists. Should I de…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 11:06 AM
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They decided that since they wanted random sex/love to magic them out of their Hell, that they could skip the whole "make a genuine connection" part of it all. They've never forgiven them for not being like incel men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 10:43 AM
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It's too few. Add in serious mental health/developmental issues, plus the guys who will outgrow their nonsense, but are nowhere near ready for a relationship yet. Between those who think relationships should be a fanclub, and those who flirt like a pop-up ad for computer viruses, there's an entire rainbow of 'do not touch' out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 10:40 AM
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Because the incels refused to engage in good faith, and found over 9000 excuses to spam the same lookism nonsense that had already been disproven by everyone who takes the debates seriously. Is it much easier to get laid if you're 6'6, and can melt someone with a glance? Sure, nobody denies that. Are modern women so picky that you need to be a 7-10 before you can get a relationship? Fuck off, and stop making excuses to avoid trying. Your "objective scale" is only a guide to fucking assholes on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 10:32 AM
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If you want to pretend the pretty boys of /r/incels are destined to die alone because of lookism, and not their shitty personalities, just roleplay it in your private time. Nobody will stop you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 10:28 AM
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I can confirm this. I neglected to beat mine, and she's not only trying to give me her nipple, but she wants to put as much of me inside her as possible! Down there! I just watched a woman giving birth on Youtube, and I had no idea that's what was happening. I'm scared.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 10:10 AM
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Amused mastery: being condescending is immoral. We're all going to Hell. I'd argue that the real problem is that without charm and a decent reason, it makes people want to punch your face down your throat - it's why the anime villains they picked it up from adore it. Awalt: stereotyping and dismissing the individual humanity of any individual is immoral. More like they're not capable of reading individual humanity without putting a lot of effort in, so they cover up their cognitive handicaps wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 04:25 PM
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She knows. She's still worse than me, somehow. Edit: But it's that same persistence, in the name of seemingly impossible noble causes, that makes it impossible for me not to fall in love with her...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 02:34 PM
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Is that a good idea? I mean, if you make video games a reward, you'll make it a highly desirable prize. Carrot and stick. How about exchanging video game activities with other things. Preferable some physical activities: throw the kids in the car and drive them to the forest; take up surfing with them; rock climbing; etc. Depends what they make of it. If they're doing this just to satisfy her, what lessons will that teach them to bring into their relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 10:32 AM
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I haven't seen it. Isn't she guerrilla fighting against a single enemy on her home turf though? That's plausible. I'd check it out. No, this is the sequel. Ripley's hired to advise on a military operation, after a colony goes dark - she's the only one who really knows what they're up against. The problem is that discipline is nearly non-existent, hubris is running high, and the civilian leadership has their own agenda. It's entirely possible they didn't want the best of the best. But there's no …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 10:28 AM
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Now apply that post to yourself in general, and you'll take the first steps to self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 09:53 AM
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See: Aliens, Wonder Woman, The Force Awakens, Rogue One, Tomb Raider, etc. I realize you live in a parallel reality where there was never a Joan of Arc or an Anne Bonny, but we're sticking to Earth prime for now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 03:51 AM
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Watched it. Lindey Ellis ignores the fact that Hollywood's first and foremost goal is to make money Not sure why you think insulting potential customers is a money maker, all by itself. You're just genderflipping the worst of what the Ghostbusters remake did. People forgive this nonsense, because they really want to see giant transforming robots fight each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 03:29 AM
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Nah, it just means that anyone can post passive aggressive insults that pass for reasoned debate. Want to call a poster a liar? Call all women liars and proceed as if she's a liar. Not everyone has the patience to babysit the fragile little yellow snowflakes who post such nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 03:21 AM
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I'm sure you believe that, having never needed to develop a bullshit detector for such things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:58 AM
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Judging by the shit I've seen whenever I'm mistaken for a woman, or just hanging out with my friends, most of the offers they're getting aren't an upgrade over a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:39 AM
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No, I wouldn't. If they'd really love me, they'd understand my reluctance, and life would go on. But one day, if I were gay, I'd do it anyways. Happily, for someone I love. Perhaps as a surprise. Because of what it does for them. I'd feel proud, if I could actually pull it off. It's not something I say lightly. I've been tested. After the molestation. After the rape. I've never once felt completely comfortable with sex. And I wouldn't ask anyone else to make the same sacrifices I did. But whenev…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 11:43 PM
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Look, I'm pretty convinced deep down they would rather we enjoy pain or suffering or even just discomfort, becuase they like it or something. I have more evidence suggest this than the what youre saying Show me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 10:29 PM
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BP leftists/feminists here seem to have a thing for downvoting against the rules, so I don't know about the karma. They're not the ones downvoting me. If you're one of the posters still respecting that rule, I can respect that. Feminists want to alter, mold and diminish masculinity without regard for men's well-being. This is where you lose me. I've seen feminists who are that bad, but it seems like a no win situation. If she doesn't, she's immediately accused of proving feminists are only attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 08:37 PM
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Past tense? Would you say that time avoiding people is holding you back now?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 08:16 PM
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Men aren't known for branch swinging like women are. Sure they are. You're really going to claim men never trade women in for a younger model? You're going to pretend men aren't reluctant to commit? You really need to stop hibernating on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 08:14 PM
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For men, it'll be cutting women in half and putting their dick in eye sockets or whatever becomes popular. It's times like this, that I wish more lurkers posted. Edit: Said lurker knows which one I'm talking about. Her response: "For men" he says... That's my response right there. X3 Or is fig a woman? I forget X3 Regardless, point stands X3
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 08:00 PM
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Well, it all depends on what you're getting out of it. My gaming led to me talking to NPCs in real life, and making new friends out of our shared hobbies. Someone else could use it as a excuse to never confront their crippling fear of social interaction. And that is a serious problem. weightlifting Some people enjoy the strength, others the body sculpture. played an instrument Depends how well you played it. poetry You'd be amazed at how much that helped with texting - not so much the rhyme, as …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 07:53 PM
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Limit their use. Make it a reward for good behavior. Otherwise, you'll just turn it into the forbidden fruit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 07:46 PM
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Everyone's prone to bias. Some are good at weeding it out. Some don't even try. In this study, they're investigating something completely subjective, and so they ask for subjective experiences. When people say PPD's a better sample, how many couples are actually represented here? We have more lurkers than posters, and many posters seem pretty single. This also tasks us with ignoring which couples want nothing to do with this place - the rules allow for crude stereotyping, but not equally crude d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 07:43 PM
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I'm sure many feminists would like to convince men to wear dresses, become homos or asexuals Can you phrase that without karma whoring? You're not on /r/theredpill, and I can't tell whether you're just trolling, or are actually that lost?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:52 PM
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You've got nothing besides "!FEMINIST!!!! GRRRR!!!!!!!! Ignore." It's pretty incoherent as a position. You don't even know what you're arguing against.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:41 PM
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I was wondering how far down I'd need to read to see someone pushing this strawman. Was disappointed to see it was you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:39 PM
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Does supplicating doormat work for anyone who isn't an insecure dark triad? I'm a sub, but if I were just trying to get into someone's pants with the altruism, every unselfish act would only be a calculated manipulation. That's the exact opposite of a kindness. And it perverts the whole point of the power exchange we normally strive for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:35 PM
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No, I'm content with my word. You're ignoring the study itself, and you've got nothing except assuming the worst. By that measure, it's perfectly rational to dismiss everything you say, for the exact same reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:23 PM
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What has she expressed? Her frustration with prettyboy incels who still subscribe to lookism, for example. Meanwhile, internet trolls can lead her on an endless chase, trying to steer them towards something resembling reason. But most important, she had the patience to sort out the self-contradictory mess I was when we first met.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 05:30 PM
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It seems more like a deliberate effort to misrepresent us. Team red is getting political, and they want as many converts as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:54 PM
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Because red demands strict gender binaries, and purple often fights for team shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:48 PM
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My girlfriend experiences it just as bad as I do. And if your theory were correct, you wouldn't have so many women in the meta subs picking off the easy targets.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:33 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:25 PM
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Don't just focus on the obvious places. Many women have sensitive scalps, for example, and if you're with a partner who enjoys either slow and sensual, or sudden rough sex, make use of her hair. Don't just rush into everything - anticipation is one of your most effective tools. Think of it as a spice. What you eat affects how you taste. Go for fruits for a sweeter flavor. Dominants - don't be afraid to ask questions. Even if you're not good at teasing information out of people, you can simply or…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:23 PM
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You're confusing beta and omega. Also, what the hell? I'm a sub with sexual assault PTSD, but even I'm not that bad. If you can't handle even talking about what she likes... No, I refuse to believe anyone in the history of the world, has ever been that bad. Edit: Unless she's moving way too fast, and they were talking about something completely different 15 seconds ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 02:30 PM
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I just woke up. I'm not dealing with all that until there are quotes around the quotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 01:36 PM
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which indirectly promotes blank slate thought by for example disconnecting gender, the allegedly principally socially constructed social and cultural differences between men and women, from biological sex differences. There's plenty of variation within the genders. Your argument depends on ignoring tomboys for example - you are aware that women are more sensitive to androgens? childlike Better than being childish. Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 01:29 PM
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antifeminist can't defend his position, but is a sucker for a good conspiracy theory. There's a surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 01:24 PM
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I like how you assume feminism is responsible for all the modern unhappiness. Whoops. So much for that theory. Now that we've blown that one out of the water, let's talk about a news media obsessed with terrifying it's audience, an internet obsessed with finding every moral outrage, and a culture worried about looking too sincere. Not to mention, men and women raised to expect everything out of life - how can it not disappoint? We could also talk about underfunded mental health, and the way neig…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 09:35 AM
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Are the men too stupid to leave the women who just take? Love is a vulnerable state. Fuck love. Once, I would have agreed. But not every love is a trap. In a healthy relationship, someone seeing you at your very best can inspire you to live up to their image. If you're both bringing out the best in each other, love can be one of the most beautiful things in the world. Why is the redpill afraid to deal with that aspect of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 11:28 PM
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Depends on the woman. Depends on the man. Depends on the weakness. Like, I wish someone would have warned teenage me that bowed heads of shame were male IOI signals, in the right company.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 11:17 PM
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He's arguing you shouldn't sacrifice for her at all. It's taking a good idea (someone who loves you, won't use you.), and turning it into Duke Nukem Forever. If you're naturally altruistic, this advice might shock you into a healthier middle ground. But what about the men who are more likely to just take?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 11:09 PM
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If you're terrified of sharing your problems with your partner, as many in the manosphere are, because it'll ruin the fantasy that allows you to fuck someone that shallow? You're behaving like a sex toy. She's just topping from the bottom, and you're less a leader, than the plaything of the real puppetmaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 11:01 PM
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TRP and the manosphere is full of men helping each other for little gain than words And extra political power. And social validation. And yes, a bit of "just because it feels good to help others." It also screams itself bloody stupid trying to shit on men who aren't into adolescent domination fantasies - overcompensation is the name of the game, when your masculinity needs to be downloaded from the internet. Example. Meanwhile, most couples are willing to sacrifice for each other. And when you'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 10:58 PM
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Any masculinity that's not narcissistic, for one. Heaven forbid any guy consider himself part of a team instead of an Objectivist anti-hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 10:34 PM
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No, it doesn't. It redefines masculinity as reptile brain impulses, shits on any masculinity it doesn't like, and pretends behaving like a sex toy is the highest honor a man can achieve - because we all know dark triads suck at creating stable homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 10:29 PM
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It hurts to be alone. It hurts when your pain is a joke. And when there's someone who listens, who allows you to vent, and who offers you advice - advice that works far better than what you tried before - it's easy to open your mind to their other ideas as well. For dark triads and alt-right reactionaries alike, this was an untapped market. Add in the ways in which echo chambers amplify the most extreme voices, and it was all pretty inevitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 10:07 PM
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How did you get out of that mentality? I've tried to help a few people stuck there, but it seems like it's something people either get or they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 07:05 PM
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anyone who seriously uses 'entitled' in this context is an idiot. So why are you so upset, if we both agree? In order to lecture me about the rules, you're breaking the rules in ways I'd be banned for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 06:55 PM
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Yes, sometimes, I'm a prick to pricks. It's tough love, instead of babying them. The claim's been made that women are entitled for wanting a break from unwanted sex spam. Those making the claim describe a cruel world where men who struggle with basic seduction can only cold call, and hope for the best. If you're unable to see how that's a lose/lose proposition for everyone, you shouldn't be posting here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 06:47 PM
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It suggests not insulting users. Criticizing a group of people's bad behavior is allowed, as is tearing apart their ideas. You'll also notice I posted under auto-mod, where we're allowed to joke. You have good intentions, but you're not actually helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 06:37 PM
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Seems reputable to me. Otherwise, I'm only agreeing with the manosphere, that their average member can't handle some of the most basic parts of being human without a detailed FAQ. If you'd prefer I phrased that with more respect for their sensitive feelings - well, that would be going against the spirit of the redpill, wouldn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 06:24 PM
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It's totally entitlement to ask dudes to stop shoving their dicks in your face long enough to have any other conversation. Sure, desperation isn't attractive on anyone, so you're doing them a favor, but - How are they supposed to wear you down into submission? Most men on the internet have no other way of getting laid. In fact, they can barely even dress themselves or cross the street safely. They've been known to suffer serious brain trauma just because their single mothers never taught them ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 01:33 PM
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Oh, it's the blank slate strawman again. You guys have yet to prove that women all share a single set of instincts, and science is too busy laughing at you to give a shit. Here, let your hamster wheel play with this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 12:33 PM
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Example.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 12:28 PM
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Keep telling yourself that you're normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 07:16 PM
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Maybe if they actually got help for schizotypal, autism spectrum, and BPD, instead of pretending looks and ideals are their main problem... Plus whatever other issues they're dealing with. But that would require them to own their shit, instead of blaming the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 07:15 AM
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Okay, not every. But TRP loves finding excuses to do it, and since they're the largest gathering of red...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 07:35 PM
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I already did. You insisted on making up a new definition of moral, to include those who lack moral instinct. Your special snowflake definition also insists that cognitive thought has no place in objective morality. And then - Your last post featured a common fundamentalist talking point. It's difficult to figure out what position you're taking, when you insist that only the Objectivists and the fundamentalists are allowed to define the nature of morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 07:32 PM
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No, now you're wrecking the metaphor. If we remove knowledge about human behavior, human society, and human biology from the equation, and then replace it with "GOD!" and "SATAN!", then anyone claiming to speak for God can replace ethics with whatever "feels right." And that's the lesson of all of human history. And it's why we don't let ISIS take us back to the old testament style of rule. You're upset that some codes of morality focus on protecting the vulnerable while others focus on bringing…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 07:05 PM
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you can override You can close your eyes. If a measurement Blue is how we experience it. But not everyone. Who are you to call it blue? You're not even seeing the wave itself. If things can be blue, they can be moral, and we can objectively measure whether or not they are moral. Fantasies about God don't even enter into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 06:52 PM
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the blind can't see what you can, and the deaf can't hear it, ergo, your base for the world is audio-visual relativism. Your entire argument, summed up. Also, you apparently haven't read the Bible, or followed any theological debates. No wonder why you were offended when I mocked people who hide under unearned cynicism in order to seem more interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 06:24 PM
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Your argument is that "preventing needless suffering" isn't objective morality, so long as the brain damaged have another opinion. You also failed to prove that God represents objective morality. It's adorable that you keep chasing your tail, but I'm going to leave you to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 06:12 PM
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Fine, that agreement is a physical reality in anyone with a functioning set of mirror neurons the ability to hear God's voice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 05:20 PM
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That agreement is a physical reality in anyone with a functioning set of mirror neurons. You keep forgetting to address that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 05:08 PM
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/r/writingprompts
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:53 PM
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Again, moral relativism would defend some very dysfunctional morality systems, without acknowledging their sickness. It sounds more like TRP, than anything. Did you intend to actually respond to what I've actually argued at any point, or can I just ignore your Rumpelstiltskin act?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:48 PM
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TRP worries about single mothers and divorce, but also thinks divorced single mothers are drowning in money and social power. They're also terrified of college feminists, which isn't a concern for anyone in this bad neighborhood. I think they're just STEM students who can't understand there's more to the world than the Beta Bob they're terrified of becoming, and the Chad Thundercock they wish they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:44 PM
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Sure, I have. You just keep insisting that there's only an objective fundamentalist morality vs. moral relativism. You keep failing to make a case for those being the only two options, and at this point, I doubt you're capable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:30 PM
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No, he's giving her a lollipop.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:13 PM
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You. I'll admit, looking over your comments just now, you had posted: A man has to figure out not only how to fuck women, but how to solve logistics and fuck each individual woman. It's an art that benefits everyone. But everything else could have been posted on TRP. You don't seem to give much credit for anything except the most cynical reading of hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:08 PM
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Moral Relativism: “When in Rome, do as the Romans do”. That's a great way to make a failed state, like Rome, and it's useless to anyone who isn't already protected from an outbreak of violence. Then again, considering the nonsense the manosphere believes about the fall of Rome, maybe it'd be better if they stuck to that brand of moral relativism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 03:54 PM
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Just ask the Saudis, or the GOP.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 03:37 PM
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One more time - There's more than one type of morality out there. Not all are created equal, but they're not "Make up whatever shit you like." If they were, improving them would be impossible. We're not completely changing the definition of morality, just because God is a fairy tale.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 03:34 PM
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In all these comments all you have to do is that objectively without god murder is immoral. I already did so. You keep insisting that if I use the same arguments as moral relativists to defend secular morality, that I must also agree with their idiot opinions about morality being something we pick and choose like an all you can eat buffet. You've yet to even try to explain why this isn't a hilarious position to take. Is it because you've never seen anyone struggling with their conscience? I can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 03:25 PM
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I observed how a functioning morality behaves, and tied it to history, culture, and neurology. Your latest counterarguments are "BUT SOME PEOPLE SAID -" and "But I don't like the definition of morality!" It's rather depressing that you've been reduced to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 03:16 PM
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Not sure how you read a personal attack into it - we're allowed to talk shit about groups we don't like, remember? The current definition of immoral involves pointless human suffering. If you can't provide a good reason for changing it, then you've failed. Your efforts to declare victory are pointless masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 03:10 PM
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You need to carefully redefine amorality as one of many moral choices in order to make any other claim. But that's the same as claiming blindness is differently sighted. Pointless human suffering isn't moral, and we're not going to change the definition just because the pretentious need help being interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 03:03 PM
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It's objectively immoral to murder for it's own sake, because it starts a wildfire of human suffering. You've failed to make a case for intense, pointless human suffering being a neutral value.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 02:56 PM
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III. You choose to uncouple it from morality. You've not made a case that it's unrelated. If it were completely unrelated, why is Days of Future Past entirely about that very thing, and respected for it? Why is every revenge story that isn't an escapist fantasy re-telling a similar tale? The rest of your claims are that morality can be dismissed as subjective if not everyone experiences it in the same way. By that logic, the color blind are the only ones who see the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 02:42 PM
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Let's say your opinion is that murder is good. I know it's not - hopefully - but this is a hypothetical, so we're consulting an evil mirror universe. In order to argue that it's good, and thus prove that this is a matter of subjective opinion, you need to deal with all of the following - The breakdown of trust. The fear. The anger. The sorrow. Combined with the above, each of these will inflict their own measurable damage on our society. The revenge factor. War. Complete societal collapse. Event…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 02:22 PM
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I already covered the immorality. You keep insisting that the pain it causes only matters if it's made out of soul stuff and angel tears. You ignore all the things someone must do first, if they want to make murder actually sound moral. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 02:12 PM
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God said thou shall not kill. There is your evidence. We already covered this. God orders plenty of killing, when he's not killing innocent people himself. His reasoning depends on "I felt like it, so it's moral. Fuck with me, and pay the price." I can see the appeal for the redpill - it's the ultimate teenage fantasy. I'm not sure why you're submitting it as if it actually means anything. Meanwhile, morality exists without God even existing. Even atheists don't consider rape okay. If you want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 02:06 PM
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Around the time you engage the evidence for it in good faith. Your arguments against are pretty shit, depending on the assumed authority of those who lack it, and a desire for simplicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 01:52 PM
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This moral debate goes way back to Nietzsche. Irrelevant. You tried to invoke time as an authority. Your argument depends on the opinions of those who had gone on before, and every single one of them was working in ignorance about the physical nature of morality. Selective argument. Some societies it's cool to kill others I like how you skipped the reasons why. Why do those spreading hate need to lie, and dehumanize their victims? Why do wars end, before extinction? in some it's forbidden to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 01:44 PM
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You realize that mirror neurons are just one of a billion things that weren't known in his time? Neither was it possible to measure the damage caused by emotional trauma. So, why are you invoking his name, as an expert witness? Do you know what you're talking about? When I say that the same types of morality appear independently in different cultures, why isn't that an argument for their objective reality? Why are you running this important question like it's Highlander, and there can be only on…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 01:20 PM
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Your claim is similar to stating that brown eyes aren't an objective reality, because other people have blue, or green, or none at all. How am i supposed to take it seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 01:13 PM
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You skipped the neuroscience. And since when was God objective? 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 01:07 PM
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It's easy to find morality in the brain. We can even test for it. Plus, the golden rule exists in multiple cultures, and is pretty popular. Edit. It'd fail if it depended on angels, demons, and other fantasy magic. Can you prove that pointless suffering (the bad kind) serves any actual use, other than it gives some pretty shit people pleasure?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 12:59 PM
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is euthansia moral Yes, unless you're addicted to other people's suffering, and consider your orgasm more important than their sanity. suicide Depends. Some people are thankful they failed. Some had no idea how much pain they were going to inflict on those they loved most. abortion If you don't care about what happens to all the people we can't support, after the pregnancy, you're not actually pro-life. If you can't care about the suffering of the mother, and want to treat her body like a xenomo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 12:39 PM
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Hypergamy theory is similar to the WWE, a pro-wrestling soap opera where women and women can only be trusted to betray each other in a desperate bit for a higher social status. It's an Objectivist fantasy, laughed at by most of the world, similar to Reddit's version of the redpill. My argument is that you need to get out more. Science.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 12:28 PM
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So, when most people - backed up by research - find assortative mating instead of the WWE battle royale you'd hoped for, how do you keep your faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 09:52 AM
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I want to see a single one exist. You're really taking the failure of AWALT hard. Edit: Does this mean you're finally past denial?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 09:32 AM
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Q4Fishermen: Do you have trouble telling the difference between women and fish, after a long day under the hot son? Are all fish identical? Do the fish ever hit on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 09:30 AM
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It's not. Beauty can sometimes be painful. As for those who are immune to its effects, some just don't register it, and others expand their definition of beauty. Eastern culture actually gave our expanded definitions names, and did a good job of defining them in ways anyone can understand, so - Iki. Wabi Sabi.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 04:13 AM
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The strawman refers to the redpil's claims about what other people believe, and advocate for. They usually gather a "worst of" collection, and present it as the best of traditional/alternative/progressive thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 10:07 PM
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It's ordinary advice from before there was an internet. And that's all the bluepill is - ordinary advice. The redpill's attempts to strawman everyone else are adorable, but tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 09:44 PM
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Comfort enhances sex but comfort in the absence of sexually attractive traits does not lead to sex. Sure. But i have a hard time believing that random Korean pretty boys count as "Alpha'. Ditto all the ordinary men who just found their place in the right open-minded subculture. Can't we use less cringe inducing terminology? Autistic ones will be willing to overlook or ignore sexually attractive traits for just comfort among other things That's almost anyone whose stress levels would otherwise mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 08:25 PM
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I'll stick to the women who fuck good men. The nice guys will just have to figure out which one they are, when their personalities develop.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 08:04 PM
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Acknowledging that comfort traits can be intimate/sexual, doesn't mean they're the only thing that's sexual. Also not sure why you think only autistic women experience this, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 07:52 PM
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There are creative men, who make better friends than leaders, who are also demons in the sack. There are leaders of men who make sure that their home is a safe place, far from the world's troubles. Claiming that none of these men is suitable for a relationship is a bit of a stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 07:49 PM
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Yes, I understand telling yourself that is comforting. And hey, good strawman. It's not much of an argument, but you've got to work with what you've got, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 07:44 PM
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And betafux, no matter how politically incorrect the manosphere finds the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 07:31 PM
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My point was that beta/comfort attraction isn't an asexual attraction. As for RP's HR department, you should see what /r/theredpill looks like when all the deleted threads and posts are visible. Not to mention, it's pretty obvious why they ban anyone who doesn't subscribe to their political agenda. The good old days are gone. RP's ideals were perverted for the usual selfish/stupid reasons, same as with every other ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 07:30 PM
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Okay, so let's talk about why the redpill men insist on AF/BB, while ignoring the effect oxytocin comfort has on enhancing the intensity of orgasms. Or how therapists need to have a code of ethics for dealing with patients eroticizing their emotional intimacy/comfort? A redpill core teaching is fatally flawed, so why wasn't it caught and dealt with?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 07:10 PM
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Because the claim was that intelligence is unattractive. Some very stupid smart people would like to believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 06:44 PM
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Congratulations on not reading. It's pretty much everywhere. I'm actually impressed with the hard work you guys put into ignoring it. There's still the endless babbling on about how The Lion King describes society, and that women hate their progressive boyfriends and just want to be ravished by Gaston.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 06:43 PM
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Which is why people who know what they're doing, and have the ability, learn how to consciously manage their emotions. Complete idiots are left posting anger phase nonsense on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 06:38 PM
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I've read the nonsense the redpill writes about how hard it is to get laid, and the need to avoid good communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 06:36 PM
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Emotional control is a component of social skills. It also affects your health, and may limit - or even destroy - your ability to achieve your ambitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 06:34 PM
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Blue pill? Make connections, earn a good reputation, and you don't need to learn how to harass complete strangers or treat every social interaction like a battle. (Note to those creating strawmen, this doesn't mean you shouldn't try to look presentable.) The redpill just makes things harder for itself, because it watches too much porn, and confuses the plots for a how to manual.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 06:29 PM
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Except creativity. And sense of aesthetics. And emotional control. And judgement. And self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 06:26 PM
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An IQ test only measures a few forms of intelligence, and some autism spectrum disorders test very well, while their handicaps are ignored. The same is true of the very sheltered. It doesn't mean intelligence, by itself, is a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 04:58 PM
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You are competing with all the other males whether you like it or not. Not really. I keep getting bonus points with other demisexuals who are completely sick of your paint by numbers approach to human interaction. Apparently, if they wanted to deal with the meat market, they'd cover themselves in chum and see who survived the feeding frenzy. And if they don't want "a strong man" to tell them what to think?More bonus points, before I even knew there were points involved. And yet, all I've done to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 02:38 PM
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You're throwing all your favorite personality traits into a blender, and calling them alpha. Good looking can be a pretty boy. Someone can just as easily want to escape dominance as embrace it. Intelligent and witty subversions of gender roles and not caring what anyone thinks? I must radiate alpha waves. Bonus: it's risk taking and demonstrates I'm not desperate enough to change who I am just to get laid, so by your own measure, I get more points by continuing to ignore your advice. Why should …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 10:40 AM
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You're still assuming everyone's reptile instincts are the same, and that anyone who isn't plugged into the redpill's attraction model only experienced their first period yesterday. Why should I ignore the appeal of all the tortured artists out there, just because politicians and athletes have their niche too? So much so that one of the worst red flags you can have for a relationship is your instincts/emotions saying it's a bad deal even if your rational brain says it's a good one. Which is why …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 09:40 AM
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You have twice as many women in your ancestral tree as men. And it has nothing to do with our inability to trace the Y chromosome through daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 08:46 AM
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Pretty much. Especially if you're showing the positive traits of the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 08:42 AM
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Yeah. There are some interesting studies which appear to show that... a) Something happens b) You respond to that event using only your lizard brain c) Then your rational brain is informed, and kinda makes up a story as to why you did that. Those were based on studying simplistic reactions, which required no conscious thought. Human sexuality isn't always that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 08:40 AM
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Why cherry pick? Meanwhile, I learned eyeshadow and lipstick, fashion tips, and studied Nancy Friday's feminism. Then I was taught to Domme, and submit - all by women. Not just a little bit feminine, I embraced all the best parts of it. And I was rewarded for it. Maybe if he hadn't confused femininity with just good intentions and being thin?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 11:48 PM
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so what did a lot of the guys do? they play the nice/sensitive guy role and get friendzone/rejected all the time. Sensitive meaning maturity, honesty, you're fun to be around, and you know how to handle everyone's shit without getting buried in it - everyone's better for knowing you. It doesn't mean "worships her from afar, while pretending to be a friend." Don't blame women for not knowing how clueless these guys were.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 11:41 PM
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You know that we are mocking lookism when we write stuff like "You are doomed to die a virgin if you aren't at least 7ft tall, a billionaire with a male model face?" Of course. It's when you guys write passionate odes to masculinity while sneering at the idea that decent numbers of women are attracted to the alternatives. It's not an objective exploration of human instinct. It's just your smut.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 11:34 PM
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I'm arguing against extreme positions. People will treat you completely different based on what you look like, but it's not the end of the story. And people whose genetics screwed them over, aren't without options. Besides, I'm an average looking gender non-conformist, and all this study does, is confirm my own experiences. If the redpill is about what works, for the average man, then clearly it needs an upgrade.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 11:20 PM
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The familiar faces referred to long term exposure, so your love affair with cold calls doesn't disprove a thing. And who said to ignore looks entirely? I just knock the bullshit off, about how hopeless it is for everyone who isn't ridiculously good looking, Edit: or ridiculously masculine. It's possible to be proud of your hard work, and still observe the world doesn't spin around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 11:11 PM
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We already know prettier photographs are rated as more attractive. And that team red is terrified of dealing with real world complexity, so it keeps going back to that safe space. Oh, look, the problem you guys keep running away from. So, care to explain the part where breaking gender roles helps average men, or should I bring the smelling salts?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 11:01 PM
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If you're calling them ugly or fat to their faces, you kind of had it coming. If not, they're just jealous shitheads who got ugly on the inside as well. Some people are just useless all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 04:32 PM
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Pretty boy basically means you're eye candy. It's a compliment if someone likes you, and it's a bit of fun if you're getting it from friends. But otherwise? It's meant to imply looks are all you've got - you're a child with nothing else to offer. It's not worth worrying about. Think of it as a challenge to show what else you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 03:45 PM
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F.A.T.A.L. It's based on the idea that rape was popular in the past. Historians were horrified. Can you point to any evidence for your gut instinct?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 01:40 PM
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Yes, but yours are unable to separate reality from their rape fantasies. Edit: But here's a peace offering. I think they might enjoy the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 01:20 PM
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So far, you're the only sane response. I doubt reading further down will improve the score.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 01:19 PM
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Eh. Everyone knows that doesn't apply to people who use nice to cover for a lack of maturity. BUT. What if he was confident and pissed on their faces to establish dominance? And was nice once, but then took a redpill and joined the dark side! And called them all sluts, because he's not going to take the time to remember their names!? Like an alpha? I'm going to guess he's posting a field report to TRP where he had an orgy with all 5. It'll be the realest thing that ever happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 01:17 PM
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You should ask other gut bacteria for a second opinion. Yours don't seem to understand people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 01:01 PM
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Sure. Except BP isn't a mirror of RP. We're not a united group. We wouldn't even call ourselves BP anywhere outside of a debate with the manosphere. But in terms of who is more accurate, keep in mind, that the BP who post here have no problems with our worldview if RP accurately describes itself. It's when they try to describe the rest of us that we begin rolling our eyes. In order for TRP to be right, all of the following needs to be true: Women prefer a one night stand with a selfish asshole o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 09:12 AM
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Incorrect. My point was that you guys are only good at analyzing and then systematizing human behavior, compared to where you were before taking the redpill. On an objective measure, you're still bad at it, but you're blinded by the emotions attached to your first successes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 07:15 AM
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You don't experience things the same as a large part of people. Which is why I can test a lot of your pet theories and find them wanting. You want to pretend women lack empathy, and that they never get a thrill from their power over others? That'll be your damage, not mine. I've seen too much evidence to the contrary to buy into your politics. Not to mention, your neuroscience, which is objectively wrong. Women's brains are frozen at 18? Why would you need a bedtime story like that? Most of us a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 06:34 AM
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Your opinion isn't nearly the conversation ender you think it is. When you finish admiring yourself, feel free to actually make a case.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 04:53 AM
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You should try it, sometime. Edit: For someone who claims to question TRP, you sure seem blinded by some of their favorite claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 04:13 AM
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Do you watch porn or are you aroused by women? Most porn puts me to sleep. And considering I have a sex phobia (we're working on it), that's no small feat. So you would marry the most ugly woman in the world Tell me - how often do you guys imagine we meet the ugliest woman in the world? I'd imagine it would require her to give up entirely on her health, and be addicted to some horrible things - can you explain how this doesn't reflect on the ingredients? Unless you're talking about some exotic g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 01:04 AM
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Any relationships I've been in, were because we did a deep dive into one another's headspace, and decided we were good for each other. It just seemed more reasonable than selling myself like a minimum wage sales clerk trying to unload a piece of unwanted meat on a disinterested customer. Unless you're completely desperate, it should be a mutual seduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 12:32 AM
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Actually, redpill would be the buyers looking at the price, packaging, and brand name. Bluepill would be the ones reading the ingredients label, because they care way more about what's on the inside. And then we're confused when you guys ask us what women want to eat? Edit: Especially when you only accept a few answers, and we're supposed to read your minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 12:15 AM
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It's not the part where you fail to cover everyone. It's where you refuse to deal with any kind of attraction that's not politically correct by the standards of the alt-right. How do you guys look at all the data indicating multiple forms of attraction, and get "Chad Thundercock, or never experience true lust?" And yes, this is data arrived through photographs, and shallow gut reaction, but it gets even more complicated when you throw in real personalities. Edit: And crying that there's no such …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 11:01 PM
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It's more like we disagree that the sexual marketplace prices everyone purely based on the shopping habits of low information impulse buyers. You guys keep failing to prove it - don't you have any shame? There's an entire Wal-Mart beyond the candies and the meats. And other stores beyond the parking lot. Stores where people are happy with their alternative choices. We're not all living in The Mist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:18 PM
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Nah, it was made by a lot of guys who agreed to ban or ignore anyone who didn't sign on to their simple faith. They're so narcissistic that can't imagine a world where their experiences don't reflect humanity at it's core.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:03 PM
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And that's nonsense. According to you, Dwayne Johnson starts at an 8, because he shaves his head and he's not white. It doesn't matter what room he steps into, because according to you, every location is equally racist, and nobody has a positive subjective preference for variety. Or charisma. Which is great for me, because I get to show off your post for cheap comedy, but terrible as a scientific measuring tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 04:10 PM
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My favorite part of your system is that it offers all negatives and not a single positive. It's the usual useless lookism rant, but now with added math homework.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 03:54 PM
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You live with 22 out of 100 points of privilege. You're underprivileged. The world is not a fair or ideal place and you know that because you grew up with several identities that the world is not kind to. You had a lot of challenges to overcome simply to get on a level playing field with most people in the world. It is not your job to educate the world about its injustices, but if you choose to, go ahead and send them this quiz. Hopefully it will help. I should thank the people who actually atta…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 03:12 PM
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If you ignore half of this article, and pretend exceptions are a deliberate attempt to mislead you, it totally confirms the redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 02:58 PM
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No worries. What I meant is that romantic/sexual chemistry is it's own language. Someone has to take a risk. Someone has to respond to that risk. And they need to escalate together. Nobody can read minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 02:33 PM
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You're talking about guys who confuse Mr. Rogers for James Bond, and try to melt a friend through general warmth and existing - how could she resist? If they're really married to that approach, they should look for a woman with poor impulse control and a history of stalking. She doesn't need any signs of attraction either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 01:57 PM
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But sexual success/romantic success through that process is a complete fairy tail. You're lecturing two people with a completely different experience. When you tried to compensate through personality alone, what were you doing, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 01:34 PM
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There isn't such thing as "after knowing him better he became attractive", this is a fairy tail BP tells to men and it's a minority among the minority. Cut the crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 01:31 PM
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You're right. I skimmed. Mea culpa. I shouldn't multi-task. Upvoted for calling me out for it. Reading your full OP, there's not much to disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 01:19 PM
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Edit: Yes. Not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 11:29 AM
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I find the topic interesting too. But "how big are the words?" and "boy or girl?" isn't a nuanced view of vocal attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 03:09 AM
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Towards a more nuanced view of vocal attractiveness. At least pretend you care about the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 02:49 AM
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I wrote the book on this. So if that's your experience, why do you criticize other men who report the same thing? Because their narcissism assumes we all struggled in the same way. Finding a connection - I'm never single for long. But I've always been a beta fucks, if we're going to be crude about it - facing my fears of sex led straight to fairy tale romance and wild kink. And friendships. And nothing else. While there were good women willing to mentor me, I lack almost every positive trait in …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 02:12 AM
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And we know that spoiling passes through bloodlines, growing stronger with each generation. It's genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 01:45 AM
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So because it doesn't take in tone and timing its totally useless? Yes. Those two things are why Hollywood leading men can buy and sell any porn star. lol Thanks for the demonstration of hubris, but it was kind of already assumed. It's not necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 01:43 AM
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No, but a team player does. Not everyone likes to join a linear human centipede style hierarchy. Redpill claims otherwise, are why you're mostly regarded as an internet punchline, and not a new branch of science.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 01:39 AM
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Hmm...sometimes, you can handle social awkwardness by playing a character - it needn't be deception, if it's clear it's just for fun. It's a social script that you can default to, when you're not sure what to do. An archetype? There's bound to be one that speaks to you. A lot of stage comedians and musicians use them... Sex is similar, but you need only satisfy an audience of one. But a talk might help - if he's the type who doesn't judge, and open communication generally brings you two closer, …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 01:28 PM
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Yep. Because they're men. Not because it's a more dangerous and more demanding job. Which is why I didn't include them in my original complaint. You were attempting to derail by pretending they were in the poor house. I'll leave you to explore the conversation you desperately wish you were having instead of "We've dangerously neglected the feminine."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 01:08 PM
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It's a lot of good people. But sometimes, the best gift you can give someone, is letting them give to you. Just try not to let the pressure get to you, or you'll only make it worse. For me, it helped to tense all my muscles at once, and then relax them. And to just lose myself to the sensations, and apply my imagination to the give and take, instead of analyzing where it was all going. But if relaxing's not possible (and it's not for a good number of women), you might want to get professional ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 01:02 PM
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allegedly My ex was like that, and I believe her, considering how demanding she was about sex. If someone just syncs up with you, it can be a completely different experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 12:47 PM
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What about firefighter or cop? Are they rich They're making more than crisis counselors. Which is pretty bad when you consider how many shit cops don't really deserve their salaries. And then there's the military grade equipment they're playing around with, whether or not they actually need it. Politicians LOVE throwing money at them, without enforcing any standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 12:40 PM
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What's a military contractor? o.o Edit: I thought you were against quotas? There's clearly more people trying to get into STEM, since it's easier for the people with money to understand, and doesn't offend their "conscience". Psychology and counseling are just trying to get more people, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 12:12 PM
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Oh, so it really is that useless. I couldn't believe it. Wow, this is how cruel stereotypes about weapon's grade autism get started. No wonder why the arts are kicking science's ass when it comes to delivering what audiences want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 11:44 AM
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Well, that explains why so many redpills kiss ass with tongue, anyways. You're born followers. You need a clear hierarchy, even amongst yourselves. It's a little less convincing when you guys project that onto everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 11:38 AM
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Ostrich anti-feminism, meanwhile, wants us to ignore the way we've underfunded traditionally feminine jobs like teaching and emotional support while throwing a government sponsored money shower at Wall Street's high risk, predatory games. And the military. And many other masculine pursuits. It demands we observe the differences between men and women, and then throws a kicking, screaming tantrum when we observe the financial differences. And that's before we look at how hard it is to be a single …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 11:33 AM
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I agree. Young men today are spoiled - so many take it for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 11:27 AM
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Which smaller words? That's kind of important, isn't it? And can you tell me anything about tonal and timing? The summary's useless. I swear, some people are only interested in skipping to the part where they give interviews to the media.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 11:18 AM
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Yeah, I know what most of the men around here like to tell themselves. It eases the pain. Nobody else can have what's out of their reach. But sensitive artists and happy power sharing couples are far from sex starved.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 07:08 AM
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Also beta fux. But utter that one around any redpill men, and they lock themselves in the hamster cage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 04:30 AM
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If you both enjoy it, why are you asking a complete stranger on the internet to read your fortune? As long as it's reasonable, and it's not the only thing that attracts you guys to each other, you're fine. You've been here before. Don't over analyze it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 03:32 AM
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Sighs. Stop. You're in limerence. It won't last forever, so enjoy the moment, and stop letting internet misogynists vet your behavior. Besides, they're terrified to even include romance in their ridiculous AF/BB model, despite it showing up in every reputable scientific study as a third type of attraction. The real test of your relationship isn't for a while yet. Don't bring a whole bunch of drama into Eden. With that said, don't be afraid to let the little moments count too. If every day must b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 03:24 AM
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Just because she has the cool mutant powers and the best song, doesn't mean she's the protagonist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 11:59 PM
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Except Leia kills Jabba the Hutt. And Luke Skywalker doesn't get the girl. And Frozen made more money than Twilight. In order to reduce everything to a simple case of pink and blue, you need to ignore a lot of other people's stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 11:52 PM
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You really can't deny that, the new definition specifically says someone must be penetrated to be considered a rape victim. The FBI does. Your own source does. The odd duck out, is you. You didn't even click on my link, or you'd have read - Rape (except incest and statutory rape - NIBRS Offense Code 11A) The carnal knowledge of a person, without the consent of the victim, including instances where the victim is incapable of giving consent because of his/her age or because of his/her temporary or…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 06:10 PM
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Cute, but awkward delivery and your post lacked substance. Two stars, but only because there's a remote possibility for improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 05:39 PM
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I made every mistake you're describing, and it was because nobody told me what a honeymoon phase was. Or pillow talk. Or predatory behavior. Or anything, really. Other than my training as a Dom and a submissive, I had to learn everything the hard way. There were so many mistakes to make. It's not like there's much training out there for anything else. Until the next try. The next relationship. Every time I entered a new relationship, I thought I was getting closer to being worthy of something mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 05:29 PM
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Some men don't want to be rushed into sex, no matter what the rules committee decided on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 05:07 PM
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Me: Even ugly isn't enough to keep someone from being hot to someone who doesn't care much about looks, if they've got something else backing it up. You: What about average people?! Why are you ignoring them? Why are you judging me?! Can't you even tell the difference between hot and not?! Obviously, I'm intruding on a private conversation. I hope you work it all out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 05:04 PM
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Your best bet's one of the threads posted to AskReddit. It's a popular subject, both because of morbid curiosity, and there's not many places where a lot of guys can talk about it without politics getting in the way. Not that some people don't try anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 03:20 PM
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Apologies. You're right. I'm just lashing out now, and my issues dealing with my rape shit shouldn't be yours. What do you actually believe about feminism's stance on us? To me, it feels like a trick question. There isn't a single answer, anymore than there's a single answer on what peace activists believe. Feminism aims to solve a set of problems - some branches more than others - and beyond that, there's endless variation in their approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 02:07 PM
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Gotta love how anti-feminists expect us to just take their word for everything. Link them to any counter evidence, and they develop short term memory problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 01:52 PM
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Strange, men raped by women aren't included unless the woman penetrates them in some fashion. That seems like an awfully large oversight by our feminist allies. Weird. Explain how you got that nonsense out of "Any penetration without the consent of the victim"? Where does it say the woman is the victim? Let's check the guidelines for reporting rape data. It doesn't agree with your interpretation, either. So where did you get the idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 01:45 PM

Butthurt nonsense Not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 01:34 PM
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I asked you to link it to "feminists don't want women to get consent." And it was a feminist consultant - 2nd wave. Too many flipped to tradcon, once they got what they were asking for. It was still more recognition than anyone else had given us, up until that point in time. Can you acknowledge that people are imperfect, without assuming bad faith? Can you apply your ideals, to other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 01:31 PM
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Well, that was the most embarrassing attempt to strawman feminism I've seen lately. The 70's were impressed at your brutal takedown of the 2nd wave.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 01:27 PM

You're ignoring the part where feminists then lobbied to have any unwanted penetration included in the official definition. But go on with the conspiracy theory. It's easier and more fun to turn life into a videogame.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 01:23 PM
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It was a way of cataloging the crime, before there was an official decision made to count any unwanted penetration as rape. How this translates to "Feminists don't want women to get consent." is beyond me, but I'm sure you'll come up with something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 12:36 PM
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The reason why we regard depression and mood swings as a psychiatric condition, and not an irrational and uncontrollable hate, is because the hate lobby is way more motivated and organized, especially when you start talking about a cure. Do you want to be a target too? Those paranoid assholes have way too much time on their hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 11:45 AM
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Indeed. Honest communication is irrelevant to maintaining attraction - in terms of maintaining a traditional household, it can only confirm everyone's worst suspicions about the underlying humanity of their partner. And even if you like what you hear, can you really be sure of anything you're told? Really? Really, really? C'mon. While other couples are sharing love languages, and learning what turns each other on the hard way, you could be using a keylogger instead! Why trust each other, when a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 11:35 AM
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If it's a legitimate rape, the male body just has ways of shutting it down? Damn, someone should let teenagers know we've finally solved involuntary erectile response.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 08:30 AM
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You said "much more often". And "forced to penetrate" rivals "forced penetration" in the number of victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 08:08 AM
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Teaching/telling men they can be indeed be raped by women and teaching/telling women to ask for consent from men (something not even feminists push for) Since when? Some feminists are better than others, but many have been steady allies even if it's not their primary focus.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 08:07 AM
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At least you're open to learning. That's rare around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 07:56 AM
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Someone who should be forcefed them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 05:16 AM
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It can take time. I found her, but it wasn't easy. She had to convince me she wasn't just saying the right words.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 04:58 AM
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Been there, done that, watched it burn away my soul. Would not recommend as a substitute for a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 04:49 AM
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They say, often, that it's bad for a woman to be a disposable fuck toy. And they claim it's something for men for men to aspire to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 04:09 AM
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You have me at a disadvantage, since I can't look at the paper, and I'm in more than one window. What do you make of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 03:24 AM
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I find that controlling for matching eliminates nearly all evidence of beauty-status exchange. So, feel free to link the actual article?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 03:03 AM
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http://labs.la.utexas.edu/buss/files/2015/09/attractive-women-want-it-all-2008.pdf Here's an evolutionary psychologist with a redpill perspective observing that your article is full of shit. It's juvenile fantasy from a paranoid hate group that can't figure out it's describing the shitty quality of women they attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 02:45 AM
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It's what happens when they can't attract a good woman, so they've got to put a good spin on being a disposable fuck toy to an overgrown child. They can't trust their partners, but they get to reassure themselves that they're the only ones who see the world as it truly is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 02:34 AM
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Truth hurts, doesn't it. Is that why you hide from it? Don't bother with a lazy appeal to pessimism. We're not all terrified of warm emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 02:30 AM
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Not every marriage is a happy one. And often, where no-one can see it, we hurt those we love most. It's human nature. But the mistake of the redpill is to hyperfocus on what can go wrong. No pessimist ever discovered the secret of the stars, or sailed to an uncharted land, or opened a new doorway for the human spirit. -Helen Keller.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 12:13 AM
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Intimate partner violence is pretty common. Did you know that women used to murder their husbands way more often before no-fault divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 11:55 PM
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Odd. You'd think they'd ask questions about why they were single mother households. Any genetics/abuse issues are pretty damn relevant. And that Y chromosome isn't coming from the mother, and it won't be expressed in the sister. J/k. We all know that's not how politics work!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 11:48 PM
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Not the woman whose worst crime is sensationalizing NPC deaths in Hitman, while the redpilled internet suffers an embarrassing meltdown. You'd think they'd be more understanding of yellow journalism, given their favorite sources of news.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 11:20 PM
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What's creepy about TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 11:01 PM
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Here's what happens when you look for evidence of hypergamy outside of internet echo chambers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 10:03 PM
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Plenty of men and women can, but don't. Pretending otherwise doesn't really move us forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 09:57 PM
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I've met some who loved it in others, so long as it wasn't unhealthy, but hated it as a ruleset they were expected to obey too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 09:45 PM
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Most long term relationships are based on equal pair bonding. Data. Not that there aren't women who personify their cautionary tales - shallow women are just as bad as shallow men. The problem is when the redpill insists that all women do, unless they make a superhuman effort to repress their gag reflex. It's a false cynicism marketed by far right pessimists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 09:26 PM
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For example, teaching socially awkward men how to navigate sex and relationships, without inserting far right pessimism into it. There are a lot of unspoken rules, and those who aren't wired for them are easy prey for the internet con artists and hate groups who attach their politics to the basic lessons they teach.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 07:23 PM
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No, but it's easier to talk someone out of it - and TRP is all over that side of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 07:19 PM
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Or would, if TRP didn't also try to claim that Yang women don't really exist, and that men who exhibit the best traits of the Yin are damned to die alone. Most want the fantasy of a feminine woman, without dealing with the downsides, and dismissing the virtues of masculine women is how they keep the faithful in line.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 07:10 PM
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TRP bro shows up - hey, be a brand women buy. Let me show you how. First, all women are like that... "Second, can I interest you in alt-right politics? I swear this is the only store that exists. Just ignore all the happy customer reviews from our competitors. Their customers don't know what they want."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 06:24 PM
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I'm sure there are women out there who are fine dating a man shorter than them (provided he checks all of her other boxes, of course). But women on here would have you believe that's 40% of the female population, not 1%. You realize that it's actually rare for a lot of women to even meet a guy shorter than them, much less one who has enough confidence for a relationship without overcompensating? If she keeps an open mind, she'll still have more men who are taller than her, in her history, than s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 06:03 PM
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Oh. I missed that one. At least he's discovering that you guys actually do moderate this place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 04:52 PM
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Actually, read the thread - most reds are fine with the moderation here. At least the ones who aren't just here to vent about their personal frustrations. Edit: And most blue simply avoid this place like the plague.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 04:39 PM
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But only group insults are allowed here, which automatically gives reds an advantage - blues, in general, prefer individual. Those who participate in good faith, anyways. You're experiencing it already - you're allowed to call out the mods, and both blue and red, and the only moderator action so far, has been to request you remove an individual's name.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 04:33 PM
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And you assume this never happens to bluepill posters, because...? If anything, redpill posters are allowed to passively-aggressively insult every woman who posts here, so I'm not sure how much bias for the reds you need before you declare it all fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 04:09 PM
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Especially if you dpuble and triple count the ones who struggle with mental illness, and ignore all the men who give them reason to doubt their sincerity. But that's still mostly because men who pull that shit prefer a quiet "dread game" instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 04:05 PM
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Who said I approve of placing anyone on trial over and over again? There's a difference between foreplay, kink, and "you're a liar unless you prove me wrong!"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 03:59 PM
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Women's attraction isn't authentic. This is going to end hilariously, isn't it? I usually make girls jump through hoops to prove they want me. Nailed it. I used to pull that nonsense, but enough jumped through the flaming hoops that I was forced to deal with reality: Most people just don't like being placed on trial, over and over again. Playing hard to get can't describe your every interaction, or you're just going to exhaust everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 03:31 PM
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Got it. Every man wants more sex, according to the high pitched screams of your angry motivational hamster. And nobody can prefer authenticity over personal convenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 03:15 PM
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Does it bother you that you're projecting your thoughts and feelings onto other people? Or do you regard this bug as a feature?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 02:41 PM
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Hint: The men who believe this also believe that it's nearly impossible for the average man to get laid. Draw your own conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 01:56 PM
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If that were true, they'd stop claiming that better communication is the path to a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 01:27 PM
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The rest of your comment is essentially an argument for RP ideas with a BP story you tell yourself. Except those of us without motorcycles, muscles, and chiseled faces were also successful by engaging people on their deepest level. It's why therapists are worried about their patients falling in love with them, while TRP needs to use "dread game." Your argument demands we ignore our experiences, and the use of our senses, and exchange it for what? Your favorite blue pill with a handy redpill cand…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 01:05 PM
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You assume it just magically appeared in it's current form after the depression? And nobody's ever tried to dismantle it since? Okay. Between that and your lack of research into the issues at stake, please don't vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 02:01 PM
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On the other hand, women's support for the social safety net lifted millions out of severe poverty while men were more likely to vote to legalize monopolies, and give them the economic freedom to wreck the economy again. Not sure what the horses were doing during that time, but I haven't seen many unicorns lately. You might want to look into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 01:47 PM
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I like how you need to ignore my other link, and endless observational data in order to arrive at your "logical conclusion". My point with the only link you'll acknowledge is that it's ridiculous to claim beauty is an objective measure that's universal and can't be questioned. Your rules for how people should experience the kinds of beauty that aren't immediately obvious are arbitrary and emotional. You make no sense, and your cause is a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 04:19 AM
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It proves that looks, and the neurochemical rewards attached, are a subjective experience. If you can't figure out how emotions might alter the playing field, you're not even trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 03:31 AM
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You're the one defending nonsense. And ignoring the way attraction and the human brain works. You want people to behave like graphing calculators, despite our greater complexity, which is rather silly, don't you think? Why should they? What are they getting out of the deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 03:22 AM
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It's changing the measuring stick. People make their own rules for what they want to see, and they really don't care how much that offends the sex police of the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 02:01 AM
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Not everyone has a very high looks threshold. There are ugly people who've inspired lust, whether or not your gag reflex is prepared to rejoin the rest of us in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 01:54 AM
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Nobody said they're irrelevant. Just that they're not the only thing that attracts everyone. Also, there are plenty of looks mismatched couples on my home planet, Earth. You should come visit us. Niceguy logic Spoken like someone who confuses "good personality" with an inoffensive, underdeveloped one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 07:37 PM
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You're not the first woman on PPD to offer. Most incels are flight risks. You'll need to help them find the courage to risk rejection, and it's easier if you have back-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 06:11 PM
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Your headcanon sounds like an X-Files porn parody.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 05:55 PM
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Start a thread. Unless you put them on the spot, their anxiety disorders tend to sabotage any opportunities they're handed. You'll need other people to help keep them honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 05:52 PM
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There are women who are size queens, but most really don't enjoy having their cervix beat into submission. It's way more important to clip your fingernails. Meanwhile, there are women who literally can't have sex without clenching so tight that penetration is impossible, or they hurt their partners. It isn't exactly rare, either. These aren't equal concerns -but you're really not getting the full story on them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 05:03 PM
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So, is that Atlas, or Sublime? Black Quill? GinSmokeLies? It looks like your brain throwing them all in a blender together, and adding every alt-right rant, because it's only going to give you one personality profile for all women, no matter how ridiculous that makes the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 12:43 PM
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Edit: I am sorry you have been reduced to this. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 11:23 AM
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It really does. To me, I sound like Darth Vader with a public access show and a head cold, but I get ridiculously pervy reactions when I let people hear me on Skype. People generally won't compliment your voice for no reason. Give them a fair hearing, at least. If you're genuinely curious how your voice sounds to others, why not put together a demo reel? If nothing else, you'll get detailed advice about what you actually need to target, if you want to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 11:12 AM
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Edit: Oops, forgot. That kind of attention seeking is protected speech in these parts, and firing back is a bannable offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 11:03 AM
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Western porn. The bigger the dick, the easier it is to show penetration. The industry is basically the WWE of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 08:08 AM
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Because it's the whiny ones who bring all the traffic. Everyone else, no matter their flare, comes to correct them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 08:05 AM
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So, run with that. Let it free you. If there's no suspense how it'll all end, you might as well throw caution to the wind, experiment, and just have fun with it all. What have you got to lose?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 08:00 AM
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I don't know if you've been diagnosed OCD, but you do have a few obsessions, and it's clear you prefer the answers that some men give you, while completely ignoring everyone else's. It makes it seem like the rest of us are just wasting our time, when we gave you the benefit of good faith answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 07:53 AM
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It's ridiculously subjective. Class, upbringing, mental health issues, individual personality, and the people around you will have more of an effect on your happiness than which team you and billions of other people belong to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 07:50 AM
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Dick size? Really? Are we talking length or girth? Does the measurement begin when he's flaccid, or is she only concerned with what it can do when erect? Why do women torture themselves with foreplay, then? Or does size count for fingers and tongue too? Can a good size in any one of these make up for the rest?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 05:27 AM
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Yeah, pretty much. Some people were cool - I loved the mother who used me as an example to teach her kid not to judge based on appearances. Others...well, at least I brought some magic into their world. Apparently, Hell's military has a contract with Covergirl. Who knew?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 03:12 AM
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I was more this kind. It looked hilarious, and it was a chance to express myself, like, if you're going to pretend to be evil, why not go all out? And that's how I discovered the world takes things way too literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 03:03 AM
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I'm trying not to be cruel, but that look is... Please tell me that's a fictional character?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 02:50 AM
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And wrecked those civilizations with all the grace of violent drunks looking for a place to relieve themselves. Pretending women had no part in building civilizations, because they attended to duties not recorded in stone, is absurd revisionist fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 02:48 AM
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Meanwhile, actual bluepill men know some women are shit and some are amazing, and most are an analog dial in between. Thus, we never have the ridiculous overreaction you guys do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 02:44 AM
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Convince me that the women's vote would allow the kind of excuses to wage war that created WW1? Of course there are women who match the worst men for horrors, but I've yet to see any argument that we've become worse since women got the vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 02:42 AM
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And the only price it demands, is to completely turn off almost everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 02:31 AM
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Women's bodies are more sensitive to testosterone. A high T woman understands this better than a low T man, even though he probably has more T than she does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 01:46 AM
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Worked for me, and going Goth, I wasn't even subtle about it. It seemed to invite people to introduce themselves, and a few made a play without me needing to do a thing. I'd love to see what happens when someone who understands facial sculpting and how to draw you into their eyes tries it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 01:44 AM
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Not sure why you think looks are the only things anyone can be attracted to. If looks aren't on the list, generally, something else will be. Those who are addicted to porn and media fantasy may have other thoughts. Everyone else is too busy getting on with their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 12:39 AM
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There's plenty more like it. It doesn't offend me - it's often the only way users can keep their sanity when the lookism crowd starts in. And even you need to get sarcastic, sometimes. I'm even okay with those who use it irresponsibly, so long as they bother to bring an actual debate along with it. But when it's perfectly okay for red to be sarcastic, and offensive when blue does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 12:09 AM
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Your mom is a very busy woman. All I'm asking is that you either stop being hypersensitive whenever this isn't a safe place for the alt-right, or ask everyone to live up to the same standard you're asking of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 11:57 PM
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Be open-minded to others. A vital component of useful commentary is to always assume good faith of the other user. This is the one where you allow certain users complete freedom to break the rules. How are we supposed to have a good debate, when some users are allowed to call the other side bullshit liars, and claim it a settled fact, while the other side has to treat this position as a valid and reasonable position worth debating, given all the available evidence? You made it against the rules …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 11:47 PM
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Can't find where it's okay to insult all the women posting here. Can you point out that exception? And if you can explain who my post attacked, that would be great too. Ideas are not immune from criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 11:22 PM
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Hey, I understand. You need to float a handicap to the men who are only here to vent, because they don't have anything going for them otherwise. And you've got your online reputation to think about. But then, you should make it clear how the rules really work, so nobody's under any illusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 11:14 PM
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Hence, the bias. You'll allow any attack on civility, so long as it's passive aggressive, and attacks women as a whole. But heaven forbid a defense of women give insult to a single imaginary man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 11:03 PM
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Explain to me how this nonsense is validated by anything. It's not what most of PPD has experienced, it's not backed up in studies, and is this even actually redpill? Because if so, then everything I've been told by the reds I respect is a lie. Those who make these arguments are fond of dismissing anything anyone else says, because "who can trust women?" And they don't stop there. Women are incapable of loyalty. Remember when Chad was a way for men to improve themselves? Seems like you can get a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 10:54 PM
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Selective outrage and trying to claim my post is way more offensive than the usual redpill BS, which is perfectly acceptable, while being incredibly uncivil to actual people? Yes, that'd be textbook bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 10:29 PM
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Show me where I was incivil? Your claim is that I was cruel to spell out the terrible sex life of the imaginary man who only sees lust at the moment of penetration. You don't ever enforce this rule against red flares who spell out what they imagine to be our terrible sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 10:26 PM
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If other people can follow it, and agree with me, the argument makes sense. You don't need to agree with it. Show me the exact rules it broke. It wasn't attacking any poster. It made an observation that other people have since echoed. Your claims have no backing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 10:22 PM
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Are you really flinging shit at an imaginary man? No, I'm observing what needs to happen in order for this imaginary man to be real. The point is that if the moment of penetration is the only time an average man experiences someone looking at him with lust in her eyes, he's not average at all. Your argument made no sense 3 points at the moment of deletion says otherwise. Not everyone needs everything spelled out for them. You deleted it, because you couldn't be bothered to clear up your own conf…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 10:14 PM

I'm describing how actual people behave. They don't only have a look of lust right before penetration. C'mon, what kind of nonsense is that? And are you really protecting the ego of an imaginary abstract man?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 05:45 PM

He said that there is one exception: just before PIV intercourse starts when she desperately wants you to enter her with your penis. Because he assumes women are as hung up on penetration as men are? I suppose if he's shit with his fingers and has no idea how to use his tongue. And if he embarrasses her whenever he opens his mouth otherwise. And vibrators just explode when he touches them. I mean, if he's so boring a human being, that he has to wake her with a kiss when it's over, in order to br…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 05:22 PM
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With any given woman What if any given woman won't do? it puts agency squarely in your hands. So long as you follow someone else's script. Besides, the other side of the dance isn't a passive one. Bringing out the best in others, and rewarding their approach, is it's own skillset. Why would you hold back and let others steer for you when the wheel is right there if you wish to grab it. Why isn't everyone a CEO? Or at least their own boss? The wheel's right there too, and opportunity favors the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 03:01 PM
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This is why single mothers buy and sell nations, people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 10:30 AM
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Describes my experience. Especially - You will have seized that opportunity before you are even aware of it if you default to action. You have no idea. Did you ever struggle to turn "it" off, before you figured out what "it" was? My only disagreement is that you're describing the traditional masculine side of it. There are many alternatives, for those who don't want to lead every single step of the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 10:25 AM
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wow amazing, a woman with actual real-life experience informing her perspective in a way that gives her more authenticity in this debate. Expect to be trashed by "real" feminists telling you why you're wrong in 3.2..1.. You must be new around here. Usually, that's a job reserved for anti-feminist men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 06:52 AM
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Many won't even know they're being handed an opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 06:13 AM
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I mean no one's forcing them to lie that they won't stop wanting a guy. You're the one who confuses "It literally hurts to fuck." with "I HATE YOU, NONCHAD!" f I'm bad women's anatomy, then how come I can predict that they'll do the same thing to the guys after me, even though they deny it? Why do I end up being right? Literally all of them? If you're only fucking shallow assholes, that might even be true. Still won't change how the rest of the world experiences life. It doesn't revolve around y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 01:14 AM
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Been at it for a while. It's always good for a laugh. The noble men of PPD accuse me of mansplaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 12:11 AM

You just furiously hamstered away everything that'd make sex unpleasant because of your dick's investigations. I get that it's your idea of an all purpose sonic screwdriver, but if you'll think things through, I'm sure you'll figure out where you went wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 11:47 PM
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I go away for a little while, and already I'm forgotten about. ;p
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 11:45 PM
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/r/badwomensanatomy. I don't get how you assume everything is a lie, except "Hot or not", but your innocence isn't nearly as persuasive as you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 11:39 PM
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I described the feminine, not women. Some women aren't feminine, and will be the first to admit it. Some men are, and live in deep denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 11:36 PM
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You're describing men who know how to de-stress their partners. Sex can be a part of that, if they don't make sex part of the stress in the first place. Is that really your best objection?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 11:35 PM
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Your fantasy life is worthless as a data point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 11:28 PM
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why women aren't attracted to most of their guy friends Many women won't even consider you for a LTR unless they get to know you first. Then there's personal compatibility - not what the desperate want to hear, but if they're actually her friends, instead of circling vultures, they'd start taking this shit seriously instead of martyring themselves. end most relationships They initiate most divorces. Unhappy men usually ended it before proposing. and initiate most dead bedrooms. Too bad most marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 01:25 AM
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I've got average looks and a good personality. It's worked for me. Are you sure you're not confusing good with "means well"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 01:17 AM
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WRONG, BECAUSE FEMINISM!!!!!!!!z@q2ER, And that's really all I can expect from you at this point. Calm down, it's not nearly as bad as you've been told.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 01:08 AM
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Source: Crippling insecurity. A complete failure to understand that women find men more attractive, the closer they get to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 12:41 AM
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Famous, rich, high-profile men live in a completely different world from the rest of us. In that world concepts like "I don't pay her for sex, I pay her to go away after" make sense. You're just describing no strings. It's all about making people go away. It's very easy for most men to get laid, if they don't try to script their lives like a bad porn parody.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 12:39 AM
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It benefits the women into no strings. Bitterness aside, there's no reason to pretend they're the majority or that the rest aren't ever getting burned too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 12:36 AM
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You judge them for common sense skepticism...while flashing a red flare. It's a beautiful innocence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 12:34 AM
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Actually, a lot of men find it gets easier when we hit our 30's. I used to think it was all a myth, but then it happened to me, and I had to adjust to a world where the only way to stay single was to avoid the rest of the planet. A little maturity and situational awareness goes a long ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 12:32 AM
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Then why do prostitutes exist? They pay her to go away afterwards. Why do dating sites exist? Social anxiety disorders. Convenience. Also, some people are addicted to the shopping. Why are there books out there about picking up women? Book learners often neglect interpersonal skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 12:26 AM
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No, you just demand they ignore their previous experiences and develop psychic powers instead. A romantic sentiment, but impractical.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 12:23 AM
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General advice includes health and fitness. It includes learning to read people through experience. What TRP adds, is a selective sampling of the worst side of human nature in order to win people to alt-right politics through dread game.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 10:58 PM
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Sure they do. You just have to expect and understand skepticism - which is easy to do, if put yourself in her place. If you make a federal case out of it, it's pretty clear that you and her aren't going to make the best of friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 10:47 PM
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More like... This. Proper resistance, and the promise of a challenge? That's their carrot. The power is if they leave their mark, and then break me in. Edit: Keep in mind, it's not a literal 1:1 metaphor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 10:39 PM
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That's a pretty standard predator test. Sounds like you learned the hard way. Predators groomed me as a child, to the point where I thought it normal - it was actually comforting. I thought it was all a test to see if I could conquer my inhibitions, in the name of love. If one hadn't raped me as the punchline to helping me face my fear of sex, and then followed up with another sexual assault the first chance she had, I never would have figured out how the game worked. That first part though, I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 10:35 PM
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I'm a sub. I've watched people chase the power I offer them, and only that power.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 10:17 PM
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I think if women had any idea what they liked, men wouldn't require TRP as evidenced by TRP existing. Most men don't require TRP. It's for the slow students who need everything explained to them, but prefer to cherry pick their explanations so that they can continue to live in a fantasy world where men rule (while somehow also being heroic underdogs), women have cooties, and none of their weaknesses were that important anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 10:13 PM
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That's more your body doing it's own thing, regardless of where your higher brain functions are. Stockholme's is another matter - it's using those higher brain functions against you. Neither of these is the same as a brojob.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 10:05 PM
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Many rapists target people who are terrified of their own lives being ruined. And they test their victims, to see if they'll protest when their boundaries are ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 09:57 PM
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If a big muscular man just starts fucking you without asking, and his dumb ass can't read the fear in your eyes, or the distance in your emotional response, this isn't an unreasonable concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 09:56 PM
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Sex for power can just as easily be expressed through a mutually desired seduction, especially if it wins a willing surrender from someone determined to resist. Or by building someone up, unlocking their hidden potential, and turning them into your masterpiece. It's not the power that's sociopathic, it's how they pursue it, and what they do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 09:52 PM
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What does feminine mean? Fluid, adaptive. As a healer and guide, they bring you to your potential. As a friend and a companion, they are an extension of that potential. As a lover, they may become whatever you desire, and your pleasure is just one expression of their power over you. Sometimes, the feminine may know you better than you do. And none of this requires 2 XX chromosomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 08:11 PM
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If women varied, they wouldn't all be from Venus. You've never dated a Martian princess? You are missing out. I'm not sure what the singles scene is like on Uranus, but here on Earth, there's quite a bit of variety to choose from. It's incredibly selfish to not share life changing secrets. Not every change is for the better. But if you're into that kind of thing, go Gorean or far right religious. You'll build up a harem in no time. Whether you'll have the energy to entertain that many people for…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 07:50 PM
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You have a curious innocence when it comes to blue men. I'm a sub, but I love playful banter, and I'm the world's cruelest tease when I want to be. I think you're basing your model of red and blue, on what the world looks like to the right, and those who should be on the right, if we look at their first instincts. The men are easily threatened, and the women have very rigid expectations about a man's place... But many of us are much more flexible, and it only enhances our attraction to each othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 07:42 PM
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You're both being ridiculous. I wonder if that's why lesbian relationships have the highest break-up rates It's because, as an overall group, they rush into relationships faster than everyone else. and rates of domestic violence Because tradcons on the right and the left refuse to deal with women's violence? Also, rushing into relationships is just a high risk gamble, overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 07:24 PM
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The ones who need to pretend women all have a single shitty personality, so they're not terrified to talk to them? The ones who actually needed to be told "Go for the really immature submissives, if you want no strings, so they'll stop annoying the rest of us?" And they think this is the secret that will unlock their happiness? It's like watching babies learn how to walk, and then the moment they stop falling on their faces, they start giving lectures on how to win Olympic gold. It doesn't descr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 07:07 PM
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Not measured: What they actually value in life. We live in a world with endless distraction and neurochemical reward, where jobs and schooling can exhaust all your energy... Not everyone is interested in taking a break from the rest of their lives in order to put together a long term relationship. It's not that they're giving up on romance, so much as it's just not their top priority at the moment. Many of these people will find someone when they start looking, others will find someone because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 06:55 PM
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This has to be the first time anyone on PPD has denied projection exists, rather than using it as a general substitute for empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 06:45 PM
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I dunno, I've never had anal but it's hard for me to imagine it not hurting or at the very least being uncomfortable/invasive. Which, like you say, is fine. Some men and women are really sensitive in that area, in a good way. I was briefly - very briefly - in a relationship with a woman who adored anal, to the point where her single minded obsession with it completely killed any lingering sense of romance. "I've never had a dick in my asshole (or any other part of my body for that matter) but le…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 06:37 PM
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Bisexuality is way more common than "bro jobs", no matter how much you want to imagine a secret fraternal order dedicated to sexual charity. They're just a few insecure bisexuals who have a serious preference for women, but prefer dudes to nothing/hard work/commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 06:32 PM
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Exactly! Bisexuality and pansexuality are a thing too, no matter how deep in the closet some of them are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 06:26 PM
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This. If you're completely hetero, you don't get a sexual response to anyone of the same sex at all. Their body just registers the same as any other piece of questionable bio matter. This isn't exactly a condition to be proud of, so I have no idea why so many men are still faking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 06:24 PM
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Her original creator was a male feminist, into the polyamorous BDSM scene. That's the kind of pedigree you didn't want Senate investigation committees examining, back in the 50's, so any political messages were surgically extracted by DC. Kind of like how Batman starting going into outer space, instead of sticking to his film noire roots.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 02:36 AM
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hahahahahahahahaha. No amount of social skills is going to get a chubby guy a hot and thin girl if he isnt very wealthy Since when? You'd be amazed how far a practical knowledge about mental health/abuse/addiction issues will take you. Especially if you've got a healthy sense of humor. Most men aren't qualified to deal with the really serious shit, and they'll only make the problems worse. Spineless is just as bad as selfish. And yes, even the beautiful people can struggle to find quality suppor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 01:02 AM
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If you're getting ignored, you're either offending everyone or boring them to tears, or just don't register at all. By "getting to know you", I mean you come across like an old instruction manual on how to handle small talk. At least around here. Very straight to the point, and nothing much going on beyond that, to build any energy off of. Like, there are men and women who I have almost nothing in common with, but we can still banter back and forth...but this is an area where u/greasypole and u/…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 12:42 AM
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When it's not a tragedy - some of those aren't funny at all. And even when they are, it might not be the best time to explain why. What makes it a horror movie? Well, it's basically Hellraiser, for me. She offers to give me purest pleasure, through my suffering and fear. And I must damn myself - she wants a willing victim. At least, the part of me that loves her needs to be willing. We've both agreed the rest of me, unwanted inhibitions and all, can go to Hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 07:50 PM
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Sexual tension is a quantum state. Defining it and measuring it, changes the properties. And it's not always a "will they or won't they?" It's also how, and when, and "how can I get them back for that?" For me, it's always exciting - a dance without end. And for once, I'm actually thankful for my fear of sex - it destroys me around complete strangers, but otherwise, it's like a horror movie, only I'm dating the monster. And my monster has no idea how wonderful it is, that she's so very willing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 05:52 PM
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Whenever you make up a country that doesn't exist anywhere on the map, you've got to give it either advanced science or advanced magic. In the silver age, this wasn't a problem - one more stop on the amazing world tour! But when you add continuity and explore ethics, suddenly you have an isolationist country that could make the world a better place, but refuses because "fuck you". Marvel's "They're coming out of their isolationist phase, but have good reason not to trust us." is the best you can…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 05:37 PM
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I know. It's like the little fuckboys have no idea how much they're topping from the bottom. You'd think they'd have more self-respect. I guess being able to say shit about their partners behind their backs is the reward of fucking shitty people in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 05:21 PM
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Most of us don't approach anywhere near that much, unless we're high libido/low commitment. Or really struggling to figure out how all this works - Reddit posters who can't read IOIs have posted some ridiculously high numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 01:27 AM
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She loves to offend. But you seem stuck in "just getting to know you" mode. Pleasant and respectable enough, but I've never seen anything that suggests you're ever just having fun with potential attraction and exploring the tension together.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 01:21 AM
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Blue pill ideas are what leave guy afraid to talk to woman So why are the blue pill men here the ones who enjoy talking to women for it's own sake, with sex as a bonus when we're both feeling it? I sense a lot of projection from TRPers on this one. Blue pill advice requires some basic social sense, but if you lack it, and see women as either someone to worship, or the enemy... Of course you will fail. make the relationship all about her and subjugate his own needs and desires. That's tradcon adv…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 11:40 PM
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My life was fucked up in ways that the redpill couldn't explain. So, I came here to make the most constructive possible use out of feeling like a disposable fuck toy. It meant I was immune to the kind of dread game the redpill uses on men. It's kind of hard to convince someone they're not going to get laid when they're already practically a whore, despite themselves. It might work on the desperate, but I was desperate in ways they'd never seen before. I mean, really desperate. This was the last …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 11:32 PM
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Like enthusiastic consent, and seeking out someone who respects your needs? The tradcon side of TRP's the one that insists men need to shut their emotions down and "man up" in a relationship with an overgrown child who'll leave in a moment if he doesn't LARP out her daddy complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 10:56 PM
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It's not that simple. Long term, sometimes the pain of despair can wear down even the most loving heart. Often, the empathy for their loved ones is expressed as avoiding an ugly scene for them to find. Women make more attempts than men, and quickly catch up to men's success rate in suicide attempts, when guns are a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 10:51 PM
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Yeah. I've staged a few interventions, and they all ended in them deliberately sabotaging themselves. From what I've heard, it's far from a unique experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 10:03 PM
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You have no idea. Red, blue, and purple are all united in their frustration. You're one of the few incels I'll still go out of my way to respond to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 09:09 PM
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Pair bonding among equals isn't nearly as rare as TRP demands the faithful believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 08:43 PM
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Also a comedian. For what it's worth, one of my fellow comedians insists that her (very attractive) sister wants to fuck me and it's largely because I'm her favorite (local) comic. However, she also insists that her sister is really awkward and it's gonna take a couple months for anything to happen. Yeah, that can take some understanding and patience. Kudos to you. I know it's not easy. If that ends up panning out, I'll fully cede that being funny is beneficial to sex/romance. I'll hold you to i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 06:16 PM
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Sure. I was welcomed to the dance when playing ridiculously evil, dueling wit, or using my sense of humor as a weapon on behalf of others. Or when collaborating with other creative people...that really went places. *blushes.* But "just be funny"? That's cruel, unless someone already has the instincts for it. These days, I try to be more careful, when talking to those who are still struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 05:50 PM
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And severe autism is extreme hyper-masculinity. Of course, this assumes we're only rating by negative traits, and oversimplifying dramatically.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 04:25 PM
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It's very feminine - even by traditional definitions - to raise a happy family, and use those skills in a teaching or nursing position. Or in the arts. You just have a masculine brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 04:23 PM
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No, you've just ignored all arguments you disagree with Such as "You don't really know what you want." and "LIAR!" and hand-waved away studies that support the other side. Via the time honored method of reading them to confirm that OP didn't read past the headline. It's cute that you want us to give good faith reasoning to your favorite re-runs of bad faith arguments, but it just gets boring after a while. Even if that growing apathy means somehow invalidating emotionally charged redpill identit…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 03:53 PM
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Another reaction from someone reading this thread - Who the fuck are you that a request for unprotected sex is shocking? X3 Newsflash, if you're clean and she's got the pregnancy thing taken care of, like unless she's one of the handful of people with a latex fetish? Which you'll know X3 Then guess what fucker! Women don't really like condoms any more than men do! Imagine that!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 03:49 PM
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It's more like the men into it are obsessed with discipline and control. They enjoy becoming part of something larger than themselves, and punishing those who step out of line. If power is watered down, it's difficult to enforce a black and white worldview. It's essentially reverting to a child-like state, with the permission and power of the state. The rest is pure sophistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 03:34 PM
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I wouldn't call friends with benefits LTR - not that it precludes a LTR, just that men who build a good reputation from men and women with reputations of their own, are able to pick and choose their moments to a degree envied by randoms. Why encourage men to rate themselves entirely on their ability to live life like pornography, instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 03:22 PM
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That's going to happen when the TRP insists that their experiences aren't relevant, or worse, decide to turn every thread about their experiences into a mock trial. TRP has repeatedly failed to prove one of their key claims - that the overwhelming majority of women have a single set of sexual instincts, to varying degrees. When they insist on doubling down after taking a beating, it's easy to question their own good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 03:16 PM
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Your flair says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 03:12 PM

This coming from the man who mashes the downvote button to orgasm, and has yet to demonstrate the ability to find good faith in any argument that personally offends him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 03:08 PM
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The sexual marketplace changes dramatically, if you're not looking for no strings with complete strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 03:06 PM
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You're living in an anti-feminist bubble, if you actually believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:54 PM
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Nobody can reason you out of something you didn't reason yourself into.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:51 PM
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You're the one who keeps lighting the fire, and bringing the marshmallows.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:45 PM
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Or she could just enjoy the really freaky shit for wonderfully selfish reasons. This reminds me of all the idiots who interrogate any women who enjoy comic books and videogames. Can't let the herd get crazy ideas about individuality....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:31 PM
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Yeah, I do. It seems like someone really has been giving you bad advice. A sense of humor isn't going to help you, if you don't actually know how to make use of it. For example, mock flirting is how a lot of comedians get free practice that their straight laced counterparts lack. If you go into every encounter seeing it as a chance to practice your material, instead of taking rejection personally - suddenly, there's no reason not to go for a 1 in a million shot. An unfeigned confidence will go a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:18 PM
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Actually, it was more the other two pulling it, that I had problems with. Here they are, in their glory. And sure, one has a sense of humor, and the other is trying to reason things out too... But this happens every. single. time. they don't get an answer they like. They suffer from convenient amnesia between posts. Edit: They're also far from the worst offenders. It gets old, fast. It's why so many circlejerks go uninterrupted, these days. "Is it worth the trouble of actually correcting the rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 12:26 PM
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The realities of basing your entire life on an adolescent porn fantasy. It's no better than the Disney romance fantasy it replaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 11:49 AM
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Except most married couples are having way more sex than their single counterparts. The batshit ravings of those who scare themselves to death through a selective reading of /r/deadbedrooms doesn't count as an actual peer review.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 11:48 AM
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He used to be their troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 11:44 AM
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Your post is right under another attempt to pull it. And you never see this kind of shit? My favorite was when /r/theredpill insisted that something as basic as "Not being used like a fleshlight" was somehow proof of misandry against everyone who isn't Chad Thundercock.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 11:41 AM
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Your paranoia is pretty unbelievable to those of us who've watched some good women actually back it up. Edit: And some pretty horrible ones too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 11:28 AM
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If RP actually lived up to that ideal, and the world down to their carefully cultivated garden of outrage porn, I'd have a red tag too. But what they really mean is that they want you to embrace one specific type of "fixing" - one that aligns more with their right wing ideals than what's best for everyone looking for practical advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 11:26 AM
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That's a far-fetched if. We do like such traits When they're not whining night and day about being forced to swallow "harsh truths". Maybe if you meant they enjoy the thought of adolescent power fantasies and buying into tradcon self-compromise, so long as they don't need to put too much thought into the actual reality of it...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 11:20 AM
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Either that, or I've survived dark shit, and it wasn't by becoming a piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 06:22 AM
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Yes, I know you liberals don't understand things. Maybe you will learn some day. From the same guy who claims to represent team blue. This thread is full of idiots upvoting their idiot idea of what the blue pill is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 06:20 AM
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Yes, I know you liberals don't understand things. Maybe you will learn some day. He's not actually BP. He's playing a strawman while you guys eat it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 06:18 AM
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Like a Brony, but for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 02:35 AM
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People who remarry throw off the curve. At any given point in time, most of the present marriages will succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 02:34 AM
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Sure, it's just more common for men to struggle than women, but not nearly as common as internet social media claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 02:33 AM
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How do you express your humor? For example, do you enjoy seeing if you can make shy innocents blush? Do you leave gaps for people to fill with their own dirty imaginations while you maintain plausible deniability? Or, are you more the type to play an over the top incubus?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 02:28 AM
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Especially if they're bad at reading signals and acting appropriately. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brian_Spitzberg/publication/232967793_Flirtation_and_conversational_competence_in_cross-sex_platonic_and_romantic_relationships/links/556a0d4c08aefcb861d5f37e.pdf Some basic social competence is assumed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 02:19 AM
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Good thing your platonic approach to sexy funtimes proved that a sense of humor is completely worthless. To you, anyways. Anyone that lost isn't going to be found by the search and rescue teams anytime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 01:51 AM
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Heaven forbid you all figure out how to have fun with the mildest possible social taboos on your own. It wasn't spelled out in the rulebook! What's the exact tonal frequency needed for every millisecond?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 01:35 AM
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For most people, it would be. I've given up on finding her a boyfriend/girlfriend. Her social terrors regard the giving up as a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 01:20 AM
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It's just romantic/sexual chemistry. Some people have it. Some people don't. PPD is obsessed with the times when it's men thinking there's chemistry, that doesn't actually exist for her, but that's more to do with Reddit's demographics than any world wide societal trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 01:15 AM
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You could probably write a book on why cartoon ponies marketed to kids suddenly lost weight and were drawn with very feminine curves, hair styles, and eye mascara not seen in actual ponies, ever... Add in a bit of social anxiety disorders, the autism spectrum, and a lack of sexual experience, plus humanity's traditional love of perverting everything innocent and wholesome, and you can see how the internet made all of this possible. It also helps that the cartoon aims to actually explain making f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 01:11 AM
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Yeah, the second you actually have any. Many of us just like our opposite sex friends because they're into the same shit we're into, hate some of the same things we do, and we can make each other laugh. Sometimes, that turns into something more, but the sex/romance is more like an awesome bonus rather than the goal going in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 12:57 AM
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So, 100 women out of a few billion? There are way more men furiously masturbating to cartoon ponies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 12:54 AM
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You do realize that friendship can turn into intimacy? The friendzone refers to men who behave like they have no sexual interest at all, because they're idiots who think it'll make her go mad with lust. Sometimes, that approach works for a woman, but when it does, there's a good chance it's attached to her police record.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 12:50 AM
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You're trying to talk sense to people who think of men as desperate insect drones.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 12:47 AM
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You can become more attractive just by getting to know each other better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 12:46 AM
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There was an Atlantic article about one college's hook-up scene - it observed that most of the young men couldn't get access to no strings on a whim, and most of the young women couldn't get the kind of intense attention/romance that leads to deep pair bonding. Many of the folks who insist that the Pareto principle applies are either struggling in their own hook-up scenes, or so narcissistic that they actually believe their sexual adventures have taught them the truth of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 12:42 AM
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The 20% number is exaggerated but most women reproduced than men throughout histor War will do that. Also, the inability to trace a line of Y chromosomes through a daughter. How many family lines produce at least one son for every daughter throughout their entire history?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 12:32 AM
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Life isn't a porn plot. Some women don't do monogamy. Some do. Don't know who hurt you, but it's not healthy to imagine their faces on every woman you meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 12:28 AM
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Misunderstanding the fact that 20% of college men are having 80% of the no strings sex. Most of them know better, but prefer to play dumb because it feeds their crippling insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 12:26 AM
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You can't even tell me how you use your sense of humor to try to make anything happen. Your social sense isn't nearly as sharp as you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 12:19 AM
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The red pill is mostly about alt-right dark triads exploiting the autism spectrum and walking wounded. Half of them can't even tell when women are fishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 12:17 AM
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I've always been a good man, and that works too. Why bother with layering in all that other try hard edgelord nonsense? If you're that desperate to join the alt-right, don't pretend it's your only option.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 12:15 AM
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Nah, RP is just alt-right pop psychology that some folks take way too seriously. If you've got a good bullshit filter, it might even help you. If not, welcome to aluminum foil paranoia.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 12:12 AM
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Oh, that again. Your fault for not having any standards or self respect when it comes to her character. Try to have some dignity, at least. We're not all that desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 12:08 AM
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Right. Envelopment is so much more obscene a verb than penetration. What the fuck is wrong with you? How do you get smut out of that? Do you want the part where I cried like a fucking baby? Or where I made jokes about my own rape the next morning and pretended everything was okay so she'd just fucking hold me so I wouldn't feel like I was contaminated? Because I needed someone, anyone to let me know I wasn't garbage, and she was the only person there? Maybe all the fucked up relationships that f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 02:26 PM
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Edit 2: on third thought, no f-this, being penetrated is inherently submissive and violating because of the power in-balance caused by differing degrees of risk involved with the act. Yeah, wtf? You shat that bit of nonsense out knowing you were posting in the same place as people who were raped by women. And even if you can't be bothered to care, you also ignored every single woman who takes charge in an actually decent way, to mark your territory there. You're usually the voice of reason, so w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 10:35 AM
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That's an odd thing to say considering that the balance of low and high quality comments is distinctly lopsided in favor of RP Your definition of high quality includes a circlejerk that instantly dismisses any answer that isn't sufficiently redpill. A redpiller making dismissive comments regarding kink? "prude who wants 50s vanilla sex". They're the ones obsessed with power and submission, except whenever it threatens their precious heuristics. A redpiller criticizing focusing on getting kinky s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 09:32 AM
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That's bragging about sexual assault. And Bill Clinton is also a fan of sexual assault, and Hillary made a rape victim's life a living hell. So, the question is why you think Trump's sexual assault decided the election, rather than people making the decision based on economic interests, abortion, immigration, neo-conservative foreign policy vs. neo liberal, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 06:27 AM
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Generally if a woman isn't attracted to a man, she's not gonna help him get laid with other women either, no matter how good of friends she is with him. You have no idea how reputations are built.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 05:26 AM
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It was a joke to her, when the flashbacks hit, and I was in my Hell again. And if I had hurt her when I struggled to escape, who would the police believe? She had options, if she became pregnant. But my options? They were her options too. As I was enveloped inside her. As she penetrated my mind, and it hurt worse than it ever had when I was stabbed with a knife. And none of your prejudices were there to defend me. Nor were they there to defend anyone else when they were raped too. Your ideals ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 05:17 AM
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My Domme taught me the same way. It's amazing how many forms genuine submission can take. Are you repaid in kind? Also, - underneath all the anger, and the right wing politics, is TRP just trying to do what we did? For dominant men, so many seem insistent that they're just following orders.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 04:56 AM
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Amen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 04:31 AM
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Nah, we're just Agents who try to keep all the heroes down. It's the need for a pre-programmed social order at all costs... Oh, wait, that's TRP. You guys are obsessed with status quo. The thought of anything more creative than rough vanilla sex from the 50's terrifies half your users to the point where they can't even debate us anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 04:31 AM
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9's incredibly attractive to a lot of young men, beyond her natural looks, because they're mostly oblivious to Escher girls in any form. They look at the cartoon she's turned herself into, and regard it as an improvement on the original design. It's why so many attempts at erotic art are negatively associated with real world experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 04:05 AM
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didn't "educated white women" surprisingly go for him over clinton? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 12:52 AM
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So the fact he didn't, will pull you back?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 12:47 AM
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It doesn't translate well into gamer scores. Besides, if personality worked, then every guy would have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 12:42 AM
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But I don't deny the obvious sexual attraction and tension It's something you just deal with, and move on. Some of my best friends had crushes on me at one point or another. And seriously, you can get used to anyone's looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 10:52 AM
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That one hits close to home, but it doesn't always need to be that way. My current girlfriend somehow worked herself back into romantic love long after the honeymoon phase was over. We've known each other for years, and she's only gotten worse. I can't figure out how she does it. (Edit: Or how I'm doing it, either.) But it's an ability I've noticed in any couple whose passion survives the test of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 10:20 AM
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It's an acheivable life goal that any but the most heavily disfigured/disabled can hope to achieve if you pull your finger out your arse and do something about it. I can link to heavily disfigured/disabled people who achieved it. They may need to work harder at it, before they find someone who can genuinely get past it, and they'll have horror stories to tell about their exes, but even they aren't all incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 10:14 AM
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There are plenty of women dating down, if we're only counting looks by the largest possible consensus vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 10:09 AM
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It's complicated. Some people can pull it off with enough style and wit that it's an entertainment skill - their audience will actually reward them for a bit of a mean streak. Especially if they're doing it for a moral cause. Or claim to be. And to be fair, it can be a handy way of cutting through bullshit. The problem is that the worst sort of people have figured this out, and are exploiting most people's inability to tell the difference between "plays rough" and "is a narcissistic sociopath". …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 10:04 AM
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Exactly! Although, some people are just so laid back that you're asking them to invent a preference. Absent a practical random selection, it may take time to create a genuine one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 09:55 AM
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Thank you for being one of the few people in this thread who understand submission.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 09:52 AM
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As a sub, it's not indecision. It's that I want to learn more about people's wants and needs, and my own preferences are a blinder. It took me an embarrassingly long time to learn I could best make some people happy by just letting them make me happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 09:51 AM
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men are happiest being manipulated they just don't want to know. no one wants to know how the sausage was made Does this mean submissive men are just ahead of the curve?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 09:47 AM
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In romantic relationships they will get men nothing or less than that You're confusing "submissive" with "a desperate personality vacuum."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 09:41 AM
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Feminist or not they're not aggressively seeking out submissive guys themselves Source: Men who weren't selected by aggressive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 09:38 AM
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People who are shitty to other people love to hide behind the "it's a survival adaptation" excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 09:35 AM
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It's the way it works around here, too. A lot of TRP men must be going somewhere, where the music's too loud for them to screw up the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 03:29 AM
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I'm talking the friendship a girl has with another girl i.e. calling and texting regularly as if she was talking to one of her girlfriends. I enjoy those types of friendships, even before they come with benefits. Or how about a friendship a guy has with another guy i.e. aggressive competitiveness and incessant teasing. And those too. two dimensional stereotypes treated like religious dogma Oh. I see. You're a missionary. That explains a lot of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 02:50 AM
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Yes I do. That advice you gave was applicable to perhaps 1% of the guys reading it, and I'm being generous with that 1%. Yeah, try looking up the amount of women with PTSD. Do you know what a pair bonding and a mirror neuron set is? Now, think back to all the women who aren't going for strong masculine, exclusively. Just by looking at beta attraction - which includes beta fucks, no matter how desperate our alpha overlords are to pretend that nobody ever succeeded where they failed - We can prove…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 02:38 AM
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It failed for you, so it fails for everyone else. Naturally. But when /u/TheGreasyPole and I can agree on anything, you should probably start asking more questions. Just because you have a witty sense of humor, doesn't mean you know how to apply it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 02:37 AM
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I'm a guy and I have no idea what you're talking about. How don't you get used to this sort of thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 01:54 AM
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Not everyone is you. The sooner you learn it, the happier you'll be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 01:50 AM
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Just entertaining a friendship with a man as an attractive woman is leading him on. If he's a fucking child with a painful first crush, or has serious developmental issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 01:47 AM
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You guys really can't stand the thought that anyone might have gotten the nurturing and warmth every child deserves, can you? At no point ever, did science subscribe to your AWALT nonsense. The emotional neglect of boys is a serious problem, but the redpill's solution is to embrace it, and use fucking as a band-aid. Meanwhile, there are some really amazing men and women out there, who'll do the hard work of actually raising the next generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 01:43 AM
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Maybe some people are just parasites, and other people only let them get away with it, because love is blinding, and the confrontation seems overwhelming when added to everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 03:37 PM

You are not your posts. We're allowed to criticize them. Stop trying to be a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 02:57 PM
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A minority of women—notably those low in mate value
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 02:56 PM
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They're not me either, but I take that into account with my advice. No you don't. If they're not guys trying to be more Yang, so they can hook up with a shallow Yin (with an option to turn it LTR later in life), you exclude them from your equations. Meanwhile, I've gone out of my way to say my approach doesn't work for everyone. I'm just filling in the blanks of your experiences, based on what I see around me, around my friends, family, partners, peer reviewed studies, etc. Seriously, why is it …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 02:46 PM

It's not a porn parody. It's real life for a lot of guys. It's real life for a minority. But karma flows for low effort misogyny. You should just get a stamp set.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 02:33 PM
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It's a blue pill way of thinking that most attractive guys who get a lot of action are not good people. Since when? Whenever I see that claim, it's either a red or a black flare. Some of the most awesome people I've ever met regard sex with new people as a fun way to kill time. And I say this as a demisexual who'd sooner chew the marrow out of my bones than join in.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 02:25 PM

Not sure why you took criticism of your porn parody of a post so literally. If you're not into cuckcold fantasy, stop bathing in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 02:18 PM
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Women prefer a hot man for ONS, relationships and everything in between, and lie about that preference. They then settle for a less hot man or unattractive man for relationships, seethe with anger and resentment about it, make his life hell, have one or two kids with him, deprive him of sex, and divorce rape him. https://www.reddit.com/r/DirtyWritingPrompts/
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 02:03 PM
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He's circlejerking over a world that only exists in porn. Whether my criticism should be taken literally aside, isn't that against the rules?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 02:00 PM
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For many women this is "still get a hot and a good man" it's just they get the "good" from one guy (BB) and the hot from another (AF). Even redpill friendly researchers called bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 01:55 PM
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Just because some men confuse their junk with a Vegas slot machine, doesn't mean we're all just jerking the lever when planning out our future.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 01:48 PM
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Men always take the hot one vs. the nice one. Most people are a mix, you know. It's just a question of when, why, and to whom.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 01:33 PM

So, you're really into cuckold fetish. Good for you! But what does it have to do with most people's lives outside of porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 01:26 PM
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If I followed your advice, I'd drown. I have a fear of sex. People touching me without warning freaks me the hell out. But when I apologize? And give them just enough reason for context? And I mean, just that very little? And not whatever the Hell you're imagining? They ask questions. Every. Single. Time. They are curious as Hell. And if anyone's compatible, and they can help? Holy shit, it escalates fast. If I hadn't resisted like an idiot, or fallen for a predator, I'd have been more than cure…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 04:16 PM
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I'm talking about someone I've generally talked to at length, before they've ever touched me. It's never happened in the first 5 minutes. But this possibility is just one of many reasons why I don't go for no strings hook-ups with complete strangers. All she wants to know here is that you like her back and that you're not a weirdo. What if she's a weirdo too? You're describing someone incredibly shallow, and guys with PTSD related to touch shouldn't be aiming for them to begin with. Not unless t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 03:25 PM
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The civilian population of Nazi Germany had to suffer in favor of mindblowing military spending. How is that leftwing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 02:15 PM
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Advising our guys to stop, apologize, then explain their mental condition that causes them to flinch, is not good advice for them. If they're looking for no strings one night stand? Sure. Everybody prefers to objectify each other. And the less drama all around, the better. But if you're looking for something more, with someone capable of delivering it? Besides, have you ever seen how much of women's erotica features male suffering and traumatic backstories? It's a feature, not a bug. I've made h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 01:47 PM
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You are ignorant on this point and I will not debate you until you learn the fuck up. What part of "socialist workers" do you not understand? By that measure, Trump must be far left too, since the Republicans used to be the leftwing group. Glad we could sort this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 10:04 AM
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They've also found out that women will give men more of a chance if they're friends who don't suck in the bedroom, or attractive celebrities.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 10:01 AM
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My link proves my counterclaims aren't universal. No need to burn a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 09:42 AM
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You should select these 5 qualities in such a manner that if a woman possessing these 5 qualities wanted to be in a relationship with you then you wouldn't reject. I'm not that desperate. Not a single woman was able to properly give a answer. You weren't able to accept a proper answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 05:06 AM
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That post needs you to believe that all men were looking for random hook-ups, in order to sign on to its conclusions. Since I'm not a pretentious junior high school student, there's no need for me to take it seriously. But nobody ever said "No problems." Just that they're not nearly as dramatic as the drama queens in the redpill claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 05:04 AM
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Dealing with their shame works for other men too. But hamster away. I don't expect you to be reasonable about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 02:46 AM
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Because RP wrote up a single psych profile for women that was acceptable to right wing cynics, and insisted it spoke for everyone. Calling anyone who disagrees a liar who doesn't understand their own sex drive isn't nearly as persuasive as the redpill seems to think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 02:44 AM
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It worked for me. Got any more solipism?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 02:39 AM
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That's just fucked up. I'm sorry people are shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 02:38 AM
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How many women? No idea. I wish I knew. Maybe it's better I don't. I just wanted to fall in love, get married, and not be this. When did you lose your virginity? Late. Probably later than anyone else here. I kept breaking up with anyone who pushed for it. Or they'd break up with me. I mean, I thought they'd wait until I was ready. And they didn't. Nobody did. It's the only reason why I ever faced my fears. It kept hurting to lose everything I had. When I finally lost it to a friend, it was just …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 02:26 AM
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Okay, now show me how you use your sense of humor to help people out of their sexual inhibitions? When we're talking intelligence, it's not STEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 10:16 PM
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If they're spineless, and their partner is a sociopathic wreck, sure. Did you already forget the part where a Dominant is trying to win that surrender? Why would you just give it to some random shithead who walks all over you? Unless you're talking literally, and it's your fetish. Doesn't your consent have value too? I can't imagine ever being as desperate as you describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 10:13 PM
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I have her. She's a more reliable source than men who needed the internet to teach them basic social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 10:06 PM
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Some are. Some aren't. Knowing you can trust a submissive is attractive. Having power and influence over a submissive is attractive. Not to mention, a good submissive makes problems disappear. They're essentially lending all their strengths to your cause. It's unattractive - not to mention exhausting - when the submissive doesn't have a personality, and can't handle anything without your direct involvement. And it's really not for everyone - a lot of men who try to submit, just end up quietly re…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 10:03 PM
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All I can say is The Daily Mail heavily implied across a few paragraphs women are initiating on men, and doing so by text, and sending nudes. There are stages of initiating. They even talk about it in the article. Do you know how to work a stick shift? Why don't you immediately start in the highest gear possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 09:50 PM
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That's because you're confused. In BDSM, the submissive has the power. They can walk away at any time, if the Dominant fails to win their submission. And why would the Dominant even try, if they'll submit to the first person who pays them any attention? Not to mention, you're not going to be having sex 24/7. What can you offer outside of the bedroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 09:47 PM
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Plenty of women are switches. And the reason so many submissive guys are struggling is because they demand she dominate them in the way they choose, when they choose. They never get the irony. It also helps if they don't confuse "submissive" with "spineless and desperate". Edit: And then there are all the women who want to help fix broken men, who otherwise show potential. Watching a rabbit turn into a werewolf is it's own reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 09:39 PM
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I can tell you for damn sure girls aren't openly initiating with strange guys by texting him her pussy. That's later down the road, agreed. But she's always been the one to introduce nudity in my experience. Is it different for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 09:34 PM
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I'm a switch, and personal experience. Also, facing your fears isn't weak, especially if you can have fun with it. It's also a great way to filter out anyone who'll stab you in the back the moment you show any weakness. But hey, if that's your type...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 09:32 PM
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Attractive isn't just looks. Average guys are doing fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 09:12 PM
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So, no. You've got nothing. Fox News doesn't lie 24/7 either. And I'm saying that as their enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 09:11 PM
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Stammer? Please. And you really have no idea how many women escalated the hell out of the situation when they found out I'm trying to get over a sex phobia, and they've got blanket permission to do their worst, in the name of a good cause. This goes back to my earlier point - you confuse what works for you, with a universal programming kit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 09:09 PM
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Your source is the Daily Mail. My source is the author, and functioning senses. Which parts did you object to, and what is your source?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 09:05 PM
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Google the author.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 09:04 PM
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They don't work if you can't connect. But if you're financially secure, transportation shouldn't be an issue. It's not the easy way, by any means, but it's easier to find people who are more compatible, and filter out anyone who wouldn't work out, before they can do any serious damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 09:01 PM
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If you're formally dating, sure. That's why some of us prefer to skip that mess and just hang out with the people we're attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 06:08 PM
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Agreed. Reddit was smaller back then, but that was way out of character for young STEM majors who need basic pick-up advice from the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 06:02 PM
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Reddit isn't most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 05:40 PM
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Don't forget to include the "mate guarding" part. I'm with a good poly woman, and we would have been denied each other's company in any society that's paranoid about multiple partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 04:53 PM
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It's a thing - especially for shy guys and men with PTSD. It's why I only ever date open-minded sadists.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 04:43 PM
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yeh youll get pumped and dumped by men out of your league. That's why you don't approach strangers, and you find out more about them before you make a move. theres no way you will make me think you know more about dating as a woman There's no way you can convince me you know more about dating as a woman than other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 04:28 PM

She's a respectable researcher. It destroys claims like 80/20 and "most women wait to be approached." These topics are relevant to PPD, and removing a post for containing too much information is counterproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 04:17 PM
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Take the redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 04:13 PM
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They get their pick of men who aren't crippled by insecurity or unable to adapt to their environment. It's not like every woman takes rejection personally, or needs to be led around on a leash.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 03:19 PM
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What do you have against a long distance relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 11:49 AM
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Poor women wouldn't want him? They're not all gold-diggers, you know. And good people who were dealt a bad hand, will fight to make things work out. They won't take you for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 11:48 AM
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What you say is true about the general population, but if you have something to offer, you're willing to take the hard way, sometimes, and you know what you're doing? It's almost impossible to remain single.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 11:46 AM
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You ask every woman you meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 11:41 AM
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No, the way we do things. We can't help alternative sexualities from our userbase. I can't get 5,000 TRP guys filing FR's from gay bars. They don't want to fuck men. AltTRP is going to have to be built by people who want to fuck members of their own sex. Why? Understanding bisexual and heteroflexible women is useful for straight men too. Especially since they're way more open minded about gender roles, as a group. The determined effort to exclude them has far more to do with politics and brandin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 11:38 AM
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No they don't. That's literally impossible because any time a woman has sex with a new man, that man is having sex with a new woman. Most women would rather go without, than seek out sex they won't enjoy. The claim is that sex outside of a relationship looks like a harem - the men who can get in are spoiled for choice. If you limit the data to public hook-ups between strangers, it's not an unreasonable assumption. And for those who lack in intuition and cognitive empathy, it's not at all obvious…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 11:26 AM
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Disagreeing with someone's beliefs isn't the same as this nonsense. Especially given that Republicans have a history of waging war on LGBT rights, science, and the public safety net.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 11:19 AM
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It meets some of the behaviors associated with a cult. There's an "us vs them" mentality that's past the point of an alternative hypothesis and hit faith based paranoia long ago. It's attracting people in love with the idea of a golden age, before The Fall. It loves childlike trust in authority, so long as the authority is the man inside his home, and she's the oldest child in the room. And no, "We fuck" isn't an actual counterargument. Most cults manage that, unless they're entirely based on no…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 10:34 AM
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Stephen Hawking was married twice. If Professor X existed, how many people do you think would want to ride his wheelchair? And ugly people? They reproduce too, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 10:28 AM
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Not clever. They can be very stupid. Their goal is sex, but they want sex as a cookie. There's limited empathy, so they support women blindly to compensate. And then they throw it all away, because it's not getting them anywhere. It's a child's tantrum. The more advanced among them eventually figure out how to actually get a relationship, but the flaws all remain. I just watched a guy who seemed amazing on the surface fall apart - he tried to protect his online sub from any problems, no matter h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 10:25 AM
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I've met a few Nice Guys (TM). Think borderline Dark Triad, but they're aware that giving people good vibes pays off. A few may even have a strong moral code, and do their best to live up to it. Unfortunately, they're not able to keep doing it, if anything frustrates them. They end up burning all their bridges, while they're still standing on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 09:57 AM
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I'd assume the logical endpoint is to insure he avoids any conflict, at any cost. Because he's outsourcing general advice instead of dealing with any of his own wants and needs, and he obviously doesn't trust her, but refuses to actually deal with it like an adult. (Seriously, who limits themselves to "Demand" and "Die a thousand quiet deaths?". Most people explore if they're both compatible, and if not, they move on.) He's also a strawman of the left, but that's never stopped the noble samurai …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 09:41 AM
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Yes. For some women, spectrum traits are a reassuring comfort. Of course, if you're a sociopath who doesn't want to deal with other people's problems, this is bad news. But not everyone's a sociopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 09:34 AM
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If you think a guy in a wheelchair is piss poor, you need to log off and re-examine your life. Stop making excuses to avoid approaching anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 09:24 AM
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So we leave this alone. Maybe someday someone WILL successfully do "AltTRP" but that day is not today. Fine, but given the large number of men and women this potentially affects, you're as much as admitting that the progressive blue pill is people's best bet in navigating these kinds of relationships. The redpill is choosing to remain irrelevant to the lives of millions. But by claiming it speaks for more people than it actually does, it discourages a lot of men who end up headed for the incels/…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 09:30 PM
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The third party receives protection in case of serious health troubles, or financial difficulties of their own, such as an economic collapse in their hometown, or becoming the victim of a crime. It's a social safety net, and every single functional society has one. Otherwise, it's people clawing each other apart for survival, and corruption so thick that it holds everyone back.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 09:00 PM
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Well, no. If they're testing for beta it's called a "comfort test". Only they're not. In my example, they're testing for feminine strengths. And the feminine - at least the best parts of it - is attractive to many of bi/pan women, in the same way as the masculine to other women. Your own studies earlier, referenced the fact that women will cheat on their husbands with men whom they can form emotional connections with. If it were just about comfort traits, why throw safety to the wind? Unless you…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 05:49 PM
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You might find this of interest. The number of women who report dealing with a same sex attraction are higher than the number of women willing to identify as a sexual minority. Wouldn't this suggest that there's a large population of women who consider - pleasant personality A genuinely attractive trait? And not necessarily in a puritanical "I respect your good behavior." kind of way. Correct me if I misunderstand the concept, but wouldn't these women also "shit test" for it? Challenge someone w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 05:03 PM
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That's what happens when you leave me hanging with "You must be better looking than you think, or it's just something from this list of alpha traits." Think about this, for a moment - why would bisexual women only be sexually attracted to masculine energy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 04:03 PM
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They're called TERFs They call themselves gender critical, because it allows them to feel good about pretending transgender kids want to rape their classmates. Meanwhile, ignoring someone's gender identity can kill them. Which everyone's known for decades now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 02:52 PM
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It isn't in biology's remit to make those assertions on whether a guy has a female brain or a woman has a male brain. Good post. You're wrong about everything, but you put actual thought into it. I'm not being sarcastic, even if you'll never believe me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 02:43 PM
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Sexual strategy is amoral. Don't be such a SJW.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 02:37 PM
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