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Discussiondoochie123/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 08:52 AM
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Question for Mendoochie123/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 05:37 AM
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Question for RedPilldoochie123/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 10:07 PM
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Discussiondoochie123/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 08:36 PM
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Discussiondoochie123/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 12:23 AM
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Discussiondoochie123/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 07:22 PM
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doochie123/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 08:03 PM
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CMVdoochie123/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 03:08 AM
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Question for Mendoochie123/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 05:59 AM
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You mean the cultures where women are forced to be dependant on men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 09:39 PM
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Because clearly the women he's trying to date don't find him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 09:38 PM
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That works as well. Either way he shouldn't blame women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 09:36 PM
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It seems like the women you date aren't interested in you. Have you tried lowering your standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 09:15 PM
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The unattractive ones probably thought you were just going for a pump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 09:33 PM
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Are you me? I was a nerdy physics major in college and always wanted to settle down young with a fellow nerd (not necessarily get married young but stay in an LTR). After a failed relationship with a fellow nerdy guy (physics Ph.d student) at 23/24 I transformed into a party girl for a bit but now I'm more settled down and just enjoying my alone time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 06:21 PM
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By that standard a lot of nerdy redditors are below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 08:57 PM
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Lol this. I've had guys keep texting me months after I reject them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:27 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:26 AM
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Ok agree
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:10 AM
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She looks so trashy. And very obvious plastic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:09 AM
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I've had casual sex and some of my close female friends are attractive high N women. IME women care mostly about looks for casual sex. When my friends and I are looking to get laid we will just go for the hottest guy available. Status doesn't matter that much unless we get something from fucking you (usually social connections). Lust is mostly triggered by looks/masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:07 AM
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When it comes to casual sex it's mostly visual, but only a minority of women (40% tops) like casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 04:56 AM
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Are the two girls in the second pic average to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 04:55 AM
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Yes, ideally.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 06:00 AM
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Lol so true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 11:30 PM
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Or men can put as much effort into being attractive to the opposite sex as women have been for decades. I don't want to spend tons of time and money on my appearance on top of my career and settle for some average slob.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 11:04 PM
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This is ridiculous. Women are much more realistic about where they stand in attractiveness than men. Most women are insecure af about their looks. A confident 4 might think she's a 5 but not hot shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 10:51 PM
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Ugh this. Like I work out almost every day, take care of my hair and skin yet will still be approached my older dudes, ugly dudes, fat dudes. Guys on here always whine about how (attractive) women get so much more attention than their male counterparts but a lot of it is shitty attention. It's like constantly getting spam in your inbox.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 10:48 PM
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Why are these guy's society's problem though? They're like the bottom 10%. Also they both have sooo much room for improvement, especially the fat white guy. Why doesn't he bother losing weight and work on his social skills? Not being obese is such a low bar to pass. Also, he's not socially awkward in an endearing way (like someone shy and meek), he is really annoying to the point where he can't maintain friendships. He never stops talking and doesn't seem to be aware that people are completely d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 01:22 AM
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Elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 12:44 AM
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What do you think is the problem? I may be biased but I think too many men expect to date up in looks LTRs and women want to get LTRs from the kind of guy they can get STRs from (not ONS; women know the kind of guys they can get ONSs with are out of their league).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 12:38 AM
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Omg had the same thing happen to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 12:26 AM
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The one thing I love about being single is not having to remove body hair. I shave my pits but haven't waxed my pubic hair in 8 months and only shave my legs like once a month. Saves so much time and money lol. Tmi I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 11:29 PM
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Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 01:34 AM
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I just feel like people treat me better and I just like the feeling of being put together.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 01:29 AM
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No, my parents hated each other. My mother basically banned me from having any sort of close relationship with my father. They're still together though, out of convenience I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 01:27 AM
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They just never approached me or seeed interested. I've seen nerdy dudes approach hot women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 01:03 AM
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They just never approached me or seeed interested. I've seen nerdy dudes approach hot women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 01:03 AM
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Honestly I don't know. Right now I not even dating bc my career is kind of demanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 01:01 AM
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19ish. 5'7" and 120-125.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 11:33 PM
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My BMI is 19ish. My weight fluctuates between 120-125 at 5'7". I was 145ish before so not overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 11:26 PM
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What do you do every day for your appearance?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 11:05 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 11:00 PM
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26.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 10:58 PM
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I've kind of given up on dating. Haven't had sex in almost a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 10:54 PM
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The problem is that even nerdy dudes expect to date someone attractive and well styled.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 10:50 PM
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I kind of have a right to be picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 10:46 PM
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It's more effort than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 10:45 PM
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Appearance wise I mentioned above. Basically I'll just break things off after 2 months and I'll ghost dudes after the first date or so. I prefer to just have ONS with guys when I'm horny and never see them again. Like they'll try texting or snap chatting me after we hookup and I'll just ghost. I can't really connect well to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 10:44 PM
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It doesn't matter what you think your league is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 10:42 PM
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Hot girls have to put in effort to keep commitment from guys in their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 10:41 PM
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Lost 20 pounds (makes a huge difference in my face), started lifting weights, did Brazilian blow outs and colored my hair, whitened my teeth started wearing makeup and dressing more femininely (used to just wear sweaters and jeans). Styling and hair made the biggest difference. Also light make up to make my eyes pop as well as strict skin care. Male attention went through the roof. I'm too picky now. I want the guy I date to be worth the time and money I spend on my appearance but also be simila…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 10:37 PM
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The fact that they're so blind to their hipocrisy is what bothers me. Like they expect hot girls to accept them for who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 10:31 PM
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Yeah but what if you're not hot yourself? It annoys me when nerdy dudes won't settle for their league which I see happen a lot. Yes I'm pretty, especially at the lower end of the BMI scale but I'm pretty avoidant when it comes to relationships. I don't feel a connection to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 10:29 PM
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Agreed but it takes a decent amount of effort to be hot. I don't get guys who whine about how women are mainly into hair, makeup, shopping for clothes are so blind to their hypocrisy. Edit: most guys don't see the effort it takes to be an average hot girl
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 10:21 PM
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INTJ anti RP woman I learn best by teaching myself from a book or trying something by myself
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 01:13 AM
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Be attractive Socialize a lot Be assertive when a girl seems interested
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:22 AM
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Yeah but it seems like you are hot. I was talking about average guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:14 AM
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I just don't think it's as common as many guys on here argue. If it were so common the average age gap wouldn't be <3 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 09:52 PM
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Yeah I've never gotten the appeal of older men. I'm kind of a romantic though and like the idea of figuring out life with another person. I also find younger guys way more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 09:01 PM
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I never really saw it with family friends growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 08:54 PM
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I'm from an UMC background and I've always felt like age gaps were less common in the UMC.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 08:50 PM
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Yeah I'm seeing bigger age gaps now that I'm getting older but they weren't common at all when I was 18-25.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 08:47 PM
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This is pretty well accepted on this sub. No one will argue with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 02:59 AM
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I'm back down to 120 lbs. Crazy because I've actually been eating maintenence. Think I'm going to go on a mini bulk for a month to pound on some glute muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 09:02 AM
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How attractive was she and how attractive was her fiancé?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 07:37 AM
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I do but they're pretty rare. I know so many unattractive dudes in LTRs. You need to be a special combination of unattractive and socially awkward to be that unsuccessful with people in your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:09 AM
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I almost never see men dating down unless the couple is older and in that case it's possible they were equal when younger. I guess it depends on what area you live in. I'm in the West Coast and people are pretty fit here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 04:12 AM
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Maybe I'm biased because I'm a woman but I feel women have more realistic standards when it comes to their league. I think porn has warped a lot of men's standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 02:12 AM
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Taylor Hill, Barbara Palvin and Elsa Hosk. Adriana Lima in her prime.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 02:10 AM
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You get it. Or better yet why don't men date across rather than down? I think these are the happiest relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 01:40 AM
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Woman here: 1) I'd need to see his body to be exact but 6-7 2)4 3)4.5 4)6 5)6.5 6)4
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 12:05 AM
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Weak jaw lines are a no no. Also feminine pudginess and/or a complete lack of visible muscle. An overly high voice too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 08:10 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 07:34 PM
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Couch to 5k. Basically training running novices to run 5ks starting with run/walk intervals.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 07:18 PM
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Thank you 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 06:23 PM
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My body is actually pretty good still but I just want my skinny face back. So jealous of people like Ashley Graham who have lean faces at higher weights.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 06:23 PM
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I'm actually starting a couch25k program tomorrow. I'm so bad about doing cardio in between my weight lifting days but I'm going to start incorporating it into my routine. Tmi but I got my period last night so it explains why I was feeling so low energy and depressed the whole days. Hormones :/.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 06:21 PM
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Feeling kind of depressed. My two best friends are out of town for the summer and I don't know what to do. I feel like I have nothing to look forward to. Also really struggling with my diet. I used to be really disciplined about food but now I'm sort of like "what's the point". I'm still skinny at 125/5'7" and I also have been lifting weights but I like the way my face looks when I'm leaner. My face pudges up around my jaw really quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 09:05 PM
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It's interesting that we're getting a lot of no sex answers. Kind of goes against the idea that men are so thirsty and will fuck anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 08:17 AM
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Whenever I hear a woman say she prefers the company of men I see it as a huge red flag. Like yes, some women are catty but it's pretty easy to make female friends imo. I've always struggled making male friends who didn't try to fuck me at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 06:11 AM
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If you're tall and in shape you're probably at least a 6. What specifically is wrong with your face?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 12:48 AM
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I'm a woman and I think both young guys she posted are above average. The beer pong guy is a 7 but not my type and the new example is like a 6.5. The average guy can still get laid through relationships which are easy for him to get if he's social.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 10:16 PM
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That guys cute, 6-7. I would date him if I were looking for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 10:14 PM
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I want to have sex with someone I like and emotionally connected to, but I don't believe I can find such a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 04:08 PM
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Um, I'm a girl. I'm just really picky and haven't gone out much this year.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 04:23 AM
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You were still a point below her. it makes sense that you were happy but she wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 09:56 PM
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Nomnomnom seems tasty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 08:34 PM
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I'm coming up on one year no sex. I'm starting to feel the thirst hard despite my antidepressant use. I don't think I can take it much longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 08:34 PM
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I can't think of any procedure that would take one up 2 points. Boob job? Extreme nose job?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 08:30 PM
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There have been studies showing that women are more empathetic on average; I thought this was well known. Men commit more crimes, are more likely to cheat in relationships etc
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 11:55 PM
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Surprised by all the no's. I defibtrly think they're nicer and more empathetic on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 11:37 PM
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Good \r\ antinatalism
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 10:45 PM
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This. It's funny though bc you know RPers are going to blame it on Chad and the cc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 10:45 PM
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I don't understand what point you're trying to make. The risk of birth defects is still quite low at that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 09:34 PM
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Men also have fun though, at least socially normal and decently attractive men. Most guys aren't dying to settle down in their twenties and most women don't want to date much older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 09:32 PM
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Uh, no. More women are pursuing graduate education and climbing the corporate ladder during their twenties. Many also have crippling student loan debt. Very few are just wasting their twenties partying and blowing chad, at least in the middle to upper middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 09:18 PM
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The birthdate is highest for women 30-34 so not really advanced maternal age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 09:15 PM
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Having a child before you're financially secure is selfish so this is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 08:51 PM
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They're not necessarily actually jocks, just gym bros. I meant jocks as mostly a descriptor, like hot guys who come across as not particularly bright. They have no status in our social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 09:50 PM
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Dude men totally get fucked for their hotness. So many of my gfs go for dumb but hot jocks when they want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 08:48 PM
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You have to enter social circles with women in them. You have a chance at getting a gf if you get to know girls first. You will probably have to settle for fat or ugly chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 07:36 PM
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It's kind of the same for men though. SMV for males is mostly looks. No girl wants to bang chubby, balding doctors without commitment. It's almost as if the genders look for similar attributes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 07:34 PM
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It's always hilarious to read these threads. The men who whine about how women have it so easy in dating and how average men are invisible to women are the same ones who put almost no effort into their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 05:14 PM
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They're not getting laid bc they're less social. IMO the top 20% in attractiveness/social status of both genders seem to be having most of the sex and doing most of the partying. Average people are still fucking one another but maybe at a lower frequency than before bc of internet/being stressed students. The bottom 30% aren't fucking at all. The bottom dudes are staying inside and masturbating to porn rather than approaching and pursuing their SMV equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 04:23 PM
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I'm a female, bluepill. In 2015 and 2016 I spent a good amount of money on my wardrobe and makeup products. Easily in the 1000s. This year I have chosen to dress more casually and don't wear makeup as regularly sans some eyeliner, mascara and lip balm. I do spend $200 on my hair every 3 months, and ~$50 on skincare a month. Make up wise I've bought only one drug store eye liner and foundation and the latter I don't even use bc it's such shitty quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 04:14 PM
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Dude no. I'm a female and my abs show.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 10:58 PM
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They're probably fat and/or ugly themselves though. Most guys in it are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 04:30 PM
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Yes, very much so. The only "incels" I know irl are introverted guys who don't try and have high standards. Literally every other dude I know gets in and out of relationships easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 04:29 PM
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I think you mean obese men. I know plenty of guys with an extra 20-30 pounds who have gfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 02:04 AM
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Yeah men tend to not think they're fat until they're obese. So many guys think that they're medically overweight bc of muscle lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 01:42 AM
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I think I want to start dating again but I'm too emotionally closed off. How do I fix this? I also don't find most men attractive and it's depressing to constantly go on dates with guys you're not attracted to. I come from a family of tall, athletic men so that skewed my dating standards I think. I can't stand short, weak chinned butterballs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 01:33 AM
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The annoying thing is that men on here act as if only female obesity is a problem. I see so many fat guys nowadays and the worst thing is many of them don't even know they're fat. Fatness impacts male facial attractiveness pretty significantly. The average guy would go up a point or two in the face just by getting down to 12% body fat and not to mention the body.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 12:33 AM
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Look at the OKcupid study. Women prefer men within 3 years of their own age. Most studies supporting that women value status and wealth over looks are outdated. Women are progressively placing more value on looks as they gain economic independence. I'm a woman and have female friends. We all like hot guys close to our age.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 08:01 PM
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Oh look fundude/sexydude is back with a new username. Most women have different priorities than gold diggers. I'd rather date a middle class guy near my age who I'm actually attracted to than a rich older dude and I believe most women would as well. Rich old dudes aren't sexually attractive and therefore are not high value to most women. Looks matter more than status in the mating game for 95% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 07:58 PM
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Futurespaceboobs
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 08:05 AM
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The original guys is above average. I don't think you realize how ugly and out of shape most men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 04:21 AM
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Your safety net only applies to attractive women. Sure such a woman can marry a guy she's not attracted for money but so can attractive guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 01:47 AM
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I was a sugar baby last year and made about 30k total although I had to spend a decent amount of money on my appearance. I've let myself go but at my hottest I'd say I'm easily top 20%. Attractiveness is somewhat subjective though. Stats last year: blonde, 5'7"-5'8" 115-120.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 08:26 PM
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Women do date down if there's money involved or if they're insecure. I don't understand in what sense you are red pill. Why do you identify with TRP movement? What do you mean by acting blue pill? Being a doormat?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 12:29 AM
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Isn't the whole idea of RP that women are hypergamous and are always aiming to branch swing? If you feel that this is the case in your relationships maybe you should reevaluate your choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 11:25 PM
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Aren't you the dude that has really high standards? Maybe aim for a lower league and the women will be nicer to you. If you're average height you probably shouldn't be demanding women with model bodies even if you're athletic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 09:06 PM
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Does breast size even matter that much? I'm slim with small breasts and most guys don't seem to care. I do have a proportionally bigger ass/hips though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 05:13 AM
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Do you get full on Brazilian blowouts?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 10:24 PM
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That was what was so weird about it. Like I was naked in his bed and consented the night before. There was a high probability that I would consent once I woke up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 10:23 PM
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I was really poorly groomed. Feral is a good word lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 09:26 PM
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I couldn't pinpoint one thing. I had a crazy BPD mother who stunted my emotional and social development. I just wish she had given me room and permission to grow and develop as a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 09:25 PM
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I was unattractive and nerdy in hs. The thing that changed most when I became attractive was how men treated me. Women were always nice to me although I experience some cattiness now that I'm attractive. I had a really shitty home life growing up that caused me to develop severe depression in my teens and I neglected my appearance and fitness as a result. A large minority of guys treated me like shit. Even some male teachers. I'm not even talking about romance here but even basic human courtesy.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 09:09 PM
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Yeah so many guys let themselves go after college it's sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 09:01 PM
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I know but I was saying around 20% on a woman is quite attractive and not masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 09:00 PM
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20% body fat is pretty high for a man. Men are most attractive at ~12% body fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 08:38 PM
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Uh no. Lean, athletic bodies aren't necessarily masculine, they're just healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 08:06 PM
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Yeah, but our male equivalents (tall, athletic guys) also kill it in the dating market. The only reason I got princess treatment was because older and or uglier guys well below my league were willing to throw money at me. Old and/or ugly women won't throw money at hot guys bc they know they don't have a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 07:45 PM
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The bottom 40% of men are fat though. Cute, athletic guys are pickier.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 07:26 PM
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Not surprising but kind of depressing. I'm 5'7"-5'8" and I got hit on a ton when I was 115-120 lbs. Like I was completely skipping lines at really popular Vegas clubs when I was with my other hot friend. Even gaining just 10 lbs changes the amount of attention I get but then again my face also changes a lot with my weight. I was severely restricting to be that thin.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 07:22 PM
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5'9" and 145 lb is a healthy bmi. 115 lb at 5'7" is underweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 06:07 PM
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This has been my experience with nerdy dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 06:30 PM
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25 year olds are hotter and better in bed than 35 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 05:52 PM
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A lot of younger ugly guys won't date ugly or fat girls, they'd rather orbit hot girls or watch porn. Why does RP give men the advice to lift and wear fitting clothes? If all they can attract is fat or ugly women in their natural state then they should go for those.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 03:07 AM
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A woman needs much more than just a pleasant personality. I know plenty of fat or ugly nice girls who struggle to get commitment. I will ease up on my beauty routine once I get more comfortable with a guy but I do need to look attractive to secure his commitment in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 08:30 PM
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I don't have a non anecdotal data source but just logically if most young women spend a lot of time on their appearance (there is evidence for this) then you will be penalized for spending less controlling for genetic potential. The bar for men is set much lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 06:28 PM
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IMO women have to put in more effort into themselves to attract an LTR. I know plenty of unkept dudes who manage to have relationships. Women on average put more effort in their appearance. Like I do a 3-4 step skin care routine every morning and evening, blow dry my hair, put on light makeup, worry a lot about what I'm going to wear, and remove a lot of body hair when I'm dating a guy. Most men don't put in that kind of effort. If I were to put the amount of effort the average man did into his …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 06:12 PM
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Her fat distribution makes her attractive to a lot of guys. She also puts a lot of effort into her style and makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 04:37 PM
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I think the SMP favors women but that the RMP favors men. The average couple is evenly matched but I see more men dating up than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 04:03 PM
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Haven't you been single forever OP? You definitely learn and grow from failed relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 08:37 PM
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You mean worth many millions? Kim K. is actually pretty business savvy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 09:44 PM
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This was me. I looked hottest around 24/25 but I never tanned and have been using sunscreen regularly since my early twenties. I now use AHAs and retina.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 09:57 PM
2

Same here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 09:53 PM
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I'm almost 5'8" and come from a tall family but strangely I don't care as much. A guy has to be comfortable around all my 6'4"-6'6" cousins though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 07:18 PM
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Nope, I don't even have a physical type. I just want to have an automatic "ooh he's cute" reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 07:16 PM
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Free birth control and reduced stigma against abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 05:37 AM
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So why didn't you just lower your standards earlier? Like you talk about how hot all the girls you crushed on were but are bitter they wanted hot/high status guys during their peak years. This is a common theme I see on the Manosphere. A sensible person would have adjusted their standards and pursued women in their league. Maybe you would be in a healthy relationship right now. Your post just makes you come across as quite entitled. Surely there must have been plain girls interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 06:46 AM
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They tend to be more realistic about their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:07 AM
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You get it, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 08:21 PM
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How truly shallow men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 08:11 PM
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I think the conservative birth rate has been so much higher than the liberal one in the last three decades that it's only natural that generation z will skew more conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 06:26 PM
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Hot bums have just as much power as sluts. You comparing hot sluts to physically unattractive bums. Apples and oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 01:06 AM
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Agreed. I don't get why nerdy incel dudes are so obsessed with them. Like the female equivalent of such a guy is some chubby nerdy chick who barely leaves her house.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 01:04 AM
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Obviously it won't be a 100% success rate especially factoring the success rate but I guarantee the success rate is much higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 02:44 AM
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A lot of girls do want to lock down a high value guy early. Attractive guys with potential and an eagerness to commit are swept off the market quickly. Unfortunately they're in short supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 02:43 AM
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This post only applies to guys trying to reach up in SMV. Are you really going to give up on relationships because you can't lock down a woman hotter than you? Why don't you just stay in your league and screen for compatibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 01:30 AM
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Hmm another RPer agreeing. If you acknowledge this then why do you criticize women for not settling with these dudes earlier? Are they wrong for attempting to lock down someone of equal SMV? Also aren't guys like this pretty much asking for dead bedrooms?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 01:25 AM
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Glad this is being acknowledged by a redpiller. Men whine about how women can fuck outside their league but neglect the fact than men can date up. I think a lot of RPers who got divorced raped were simply clueless guys dating up in SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 09:17 PM
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I don't want to bother removing my body hair. I'd rather be single and hairy than shave every third day and deal with uncomfortable stubble. Waxing is too expensive for me to bother with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 09:47 PM
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I've been wanting to make a thread on this for a while. Feminism actually aligns quite well with some interpretations of the red pill. Feminism has actually been dismantling the beta bucks paradigm. You'd think TRPers would be thankful for this but they're too bitter they couldnt attract the type of woman they felt they deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 07:52 PM
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Serena Williams has dated non famous guys before though. She dated her coach as well as Grigor Dimitrov before he was very high in the rankings. There are plenty of famous women who have dated or married massively down in status. Jessica Alba married a camera man or something, Britney Spears married a backup dancer, J.lo dated a backup dancer just from thinking off the top of my head. You also neglect to mention that Serena and her fiancé are of similar physical attractiveness. Usually men who d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 05:44 AM
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I used to be INTP but forcibly changed my personality because I was tired of being unattractive to men. I think INTP is the worst personality to have as a girl. I've never met a young guy who likes the INTP personality in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 06:49 AM
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So I guess my preferences and experiences are wrong? Why is it easier for me to get commitment from guys in their early thirties than guys in their mid twenties? Why did every girl in my social circle in college date guys within 4 years of their own age? Why are so many of the Victoria's Secret models with men within 5 years of their age? Why are super models such as Gigi hadid and Bella hadid dating guys in their twenties? Wow you have a younger girlfriend, maybe you're exceptionally good looki…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:09 PM
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Agreed. I was just trying to prove that women at their peak SMV prefer guys in their twenties. Women are just more realistic about the age range they can attract. I know guys in their forties and fifties who still try to pursue women in their twenties not understanding that they're sexually invisible to us and have been for at least a decade and a half.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:09 PM
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There was an okcupid study showing women prefer men their own age or like 1-3 years older. This has been consistent with my experiences. Most guys I've gone on dates with who were in their early thirties have been eager to pursue things with me. Guys that are 25 or so don't want to invest nearly as much time and money into me. Personally I wish men were more attractive in their thirties because I can more easily get commitment from these guys but they're just not. Many of them are starting to ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 01:02 AM
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Nah, men definitely peak in attractiveness before 30. The male decline starts at most 5 years after the female decline. When I was 21 I was most attracted to guys between 20-24. Now that I'm 26 it's more like 23-28. Most guys look better at 26 than at 33 all things equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 11:06 PM
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I've read through some of his post history (I'm assuming you're referring to trail22) and even he has admitted to some women being beneath him. He mentioned he would not date fat women. I'm sure he could find a fat woman who would love his commitment. He's complaining that fit women don't want to date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 02:51 AM
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One thing I find incredibly hypocritical about these complaints is that these men are unwilling to lower their own standards. They want a woman they find sexually attractive (who probably puts effort into being attractive) to settle for them but they consider it an injustice if they have to lower their own standards or work on making themselves more attractive. Like why should I spend so much time and money grooming myself if you won't do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 06:19 PM
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No they don't lol.
/r/MGTOW28/10/16 06:05 PM
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Good list.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 06:36 PM
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True. He should have listed his stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 03:02 AM
1

Yup :p.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:36 AM
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Yeah but he's old and wouldn't pay me. How could sex from him possibly make me feel better?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:36 AM
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I had sex with a sugar daddy as recently as 3.5 months ago. No sex with a normal guy since March. Am quitting sugar babying for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:29 AM
2

How can you possibly help me?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:14 AM
2

I meant no free sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:13 AM
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I don't choose any men, I'm WGTOW. I haven't had sex in almost 6 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 09:30 PM
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Why am I not the one being taken advantage of? They're taking advantage of my mental issues to fuck a woman much younger and hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 07:25 AM
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How is it stealing? They agree to the amount of money they give me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 07:11 AM
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I just don't want to settle, I don't value male commitment that much. If I have to settle for someone I don't love I may as well be a gold digger which I was in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 06:43 AM
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Pretty much. I don't think women should choose to just settle, we should just go our own way. I hate the idea of giving a man the privilege of being the one more in love. Edit: I really want to experience love before I die but I think men have kind of ruined it for me. I hate giving them the satisfaction of being in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 06:36 AM
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Why? Isn't it good that I'm not settling. I was depressed about it at first which is why I went into sugar dating but now I've just accepted it and focus on my friendships, hobbies, and career.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 04:47 AM
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im rarely sexually attracted to the guys readily giving me commitment. Like I'd rather be alone. Being a sugar baby is a better deal for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 01:45 AM
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This is why I don't date. Dating as a woman usually means settling. Would rather work hard and provide for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 01:30 AM
1

Lol, ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 07:00 AM
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She settled for the relationship and he didn't. Women are more likely to settle to get a relationship while men are more likely to settle to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 06:57 AM
3

How do you know you're a 6?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 06:40 AM
1

That's not that much...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 05:18 AM
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Yes, they're just as likely to be bad partners as women with high n counts and for the same reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 01:50 AM
0

However you want to phrase it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 09:50 PM
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Maybe I'm a late bloomer but I've become progressively more sluttty with age. My laycount was 1 at 22 and now it's like 30 at 26 although I did some sugar dating. Most of my friends are around my age and are still sleeping around.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 09:01 PM
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It's more like prostitution than real sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 11:41 PM
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To these girls ducking isn't a big deal. Some of my gfs have >60 lay counts in their late twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 11:40 PM
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Women don't fuck these guys because their status makes them significantly more sexually attractive, they fuck them for the possibility of social connections/an increase in social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 11:12 PM
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I don't think wealth causes sexual attraction but I do think a lot of women will fuck you because of your wealth. So I used to be a sugar baby and "dated" several rich guys. The fact they were rich didn't override the fact that they were 45. I fucked them for what their wealth could give me, not because I enjoyed fucking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 11:11 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 08:15 PM
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The couple you posted is pretty internet famous for being such a mismatch. They are obviously an anomaly because the guy has a fat fetish. I could also provide you examples of deformed men in relationships with above average women. Exceptions don't disprove the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 08:13 PM
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I have two female family members who went WGTOW after leaving abusive marriages. They seem pretty content actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 08:10 PM
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I think a decent portion of young, attractive guys won't commit even if you're hot and have a good personality. It's not just you, a lot of my attractive single friends have this problem. Attractive guys who are willing to commit are generally swept off the market very early (like in college) and the rest of them don't tend to settle down until they're 30+ or whenever they start to lose their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:37 AM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:23 AM
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Don't find him hot, he looks like a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:10 AM
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I find that more feminine men tend to focus more on face and tend to prefer thinner women (18-19 bmi). Hot guys focus a lot more on body (tits/ass) and prefer thicker/softer women (>20 bmi but not overweight). They're also more forgiving of facial flaws if the women has a great body. Nerdy guys tend to fixate on obscure facial flaws that more sexually aggressive, outgoing guys care less about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 01:29 AM
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You get more money per hour and you don't have to fake as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 01:15 AM
1

Well I'm a woman and I when I want to fuck men casually I mostly go for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:19 PM
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I have normal, party girl friends, the kind of girls TRPers go for. I still think TRP is bs based on my experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 05:55 PM
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Yeah. I have actually approached all of the guys I've had casual sex with. Women approach in more subtle ways but we still approach. Yes the guys I fucked sealed the deal but I set everything up for them with my body language. Men exaggerate the importance of game. Most of my friends decide within like 5-10 minutes whether we're down for sex and this decision is based 90% on how hot we find the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 05:20 PM
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Been there, done that. Unless you're lucky you do have to fuck your sugar daddy for money. If prostitution were legal I'd much rather be an escort than a sugar baby, it's a way better deal for the girl. The hardest part of being a sugar baby for me was actually faking emotional intimacy, not having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 04:39 PM
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No women are now trading sex for sex and earning their own resources. If you have to trade resources for sex then you're simply not fuckable enough for the women you're pursuing. Women nowadays want to marry for love (aka looks and personality) not provisioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 07:16 PM
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I've never seen a 3/10 land whale with a chad. Frat boy jocks don't fuck obese women. Elliot Rodger wanted a hot blonde sorority girl. He was cute but like a 6, not an 8. Had he had a decent personality (fun, extroverted) and good socially skills he would have been able to land a cute, but not hot girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 07:13 PM
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Sorry attractive sociable women want to fuck their male equivalents. Oh the degeneracy! Clearly they should pity fuck men below their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:59 AM
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He's 5'3" and Asian, his problem is his looks not his personality. Sorry dude but you'll have to go for overweight women and even some of them will reject you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 03:08 AM
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Because it's politically incorrect. I will definitely admit that certain races are less attractive n average and shorter men are less attractive on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 03:18 AM
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It was like 2 years long. I would consider that a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 03:18 AM
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But being <5'4" is really rare for a guy. It's like 2SD below average so like bottom 2% of height.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 03:13 AM
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Which is good enough to date a 6/10 girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 02:57 AM
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I thought 9s were like top 2%. Aren't we factoring in the bell curve distribution of attractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 02:56 AM
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I don't think anyone can be top 20%. Some guys are fucked by height and body shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 02:30 AM
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Yeah but you don't need to be a 9 to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 01:31 AM
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What do you mean? If you are genetically average but spend an exceptional amount f time grooming yourself you will probably end u above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 12:59 AM
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I feel the same exact way about men. I don't think this is gender specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 10:02 PM
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Guy B for sure so long as I could also have people on the side. 10 in looks, 6 in resources only. I wouldn't even date a guy who is only 6 in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 08:06 PM
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Lol, in my social circle it's the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 05:29 AM
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Most women aren't lining up to marry ugly, rich guys. I'm a mid twenties female so I should know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 11:39 PM
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Hasn't the idea that women favor money over looks been debunked here countless of times? Also, women in their twenties generally prefer men within 5 years of their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 10:43 PM
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20.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 09:58 PM
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