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Question For Womenw1se_old_tree/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:42 PM
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CMVw1se_old_tree/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 02:35 AM
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CMVw1se_old_tree/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:46 AM
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Sciencew1se_old_tree/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:12 PM
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Question For Womenw1se_old_tree/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:41 PM
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Discussionw1se_old_tree/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:51 AM
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CMVw1se_old_tree/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:43 AM
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Question For Womenw1se_old_tree/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:24 AM
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Question For Womenw1se_old_tree/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:23 PM
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Discussionw1se_old_tree/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 06:27 AM
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Question For Womenw1se_old_tree/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:09 AM
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Sciencew1se_old_tree/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:19 AM
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Discussionw1se_old_tree/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 02:10 AM
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compare facial bone structure It's not something that most people feel the need to analyze, it's just the main determinant of facial attractiveness. It's all just a distraction from what dating should be That's what dating "should be" to YOU. Different people have different goals. finding your best friend. Only if they're just a FWB. Once things gets more serious there's a lot more potential for conflict compared to a friend or a FWB. I see a lot of guys talking about not wanting a girl who has …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 07:53 AM
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both men and women are advantages and disadvantaged in many ways when in comes to dating. Ok, but he was talking about why one specific disadvantage men have contributes to men seeking out communities like TRP. In order to answer OP's question. What's the point of you bringing this up? Does you have to make everything about yourself? Short list of things straight men are less concerned about than women: sexual assault, sexual harassment, pregnancy and domestic violence. https://web.archive.org/w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:52 AM
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Tinder was just an example. The point was that many traits women tend to select for have nothing to do with personal safety. They even select for some traits that put themselves at greater risk(women prefer less agreeable men for instance, who are more likely to be violent).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:46 AM
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Why are involuntarily single women It's incredibly rare for women to be involuntarily single.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:44 AM
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Because they are willing to, and women are less willing to. It's really that simple. It's like "why should I only get paid $10 an hour". Because you're willing to work for that amount of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:33 AM
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"Radical feminist" in the academic sense of the word doesn't mean what you think it means(highly disagreeable/misandrist feminist). It's a specific ideology. Not to say that radical feminists aren't misandrists, most of them probably are, but that's hardly unique to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 01:50 AM
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Yeah it is a scary thought to think of marrying someone and having kids and later finding out you weren't the best. Even then I don't think that would necessarily be scary. Just because there was a guy who was better doesn't mean you're not great. But if there were a lot of other guys who were better then that's definitely a big problem. Either way, I don't think men living in Anglo countries should ever get married unless it's to a woman significantly wealthier than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 01:41 AM
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I think TRP's attitude when it comes to persistency in pursuing women makes sense If you're asking her out and get rejected, accept it and move on because she probably just wasn't that interested. Don't bother trying again unless you've changed a lot. You can't negotiate attraction. Whereas if you're chilling at someone's place after a date and tryna get laid, it's good to try again if she initially refuses. The fact that you successfully asked her out and that both of you are hanging out at som…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 01:36 AM
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The more people she's been with the less likely it is that you were her "best". Not that I think it's something you should strive for, with how promiscuous people are these days it's unrealistic. For a guy, being "good enough" is okay if you don't get married. If things don't work out then it's an easy split and there's plenty of other fish in the sea.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 01:12 AM
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Where do you think the term BDE (Big d*ck energy) came from? Women praising men they like. Simple as. The term is applied to everything, not strictly sexual activity. A lot of people are shocked when someone less physically appealing is chosen over them. Beauty is normative. You might consider yourself better looking than the other guy but she might feel otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 01:01 AM
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I don't generally speak to specific situations. Because I can't speak for every single woman's preference Please learn to read
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:58 AM
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Airplane travel only became ubiquitous in the past few decades. SE Asian women never really had the opportunity to choose white men before. Now they do and we are seeing the results of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:58 AM
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Many men on this sub seem to want a woman who’s submissive, but they also want a woman to pay her way. Are they talking about a woman who's merely sexually "submissive" or a woman who's "submissive" in most aspects. That word has strong sexual connotations. And more importantly, is it the same men saying these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:47 AM
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You know there are historic high std rates in the 50+ crowd, what do you think they are going in older age? How many of those infections are latent and incurable, like herpes? Obviously people will be more likely to be infected with that as they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:45 AM
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So what’s your advice for a woman like me? I don't generally speak to specific situations. Because I can't speak for every single woman's preference, and of course some are very introverted and content being alone. But most women are very social.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:43 AM
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then you must not be human What does my username say?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:42 AM
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It’s 2022, most American women are working. Do you think women don’t work? Did I say otherwise? Why do PPD users have such hard time not putting words in my mouth? Hell, most families can’t do it with two incomes. Most couples do have kids, and many who don't could afford it but just don't want to sacrifice their lifestyle. However, if a woman can afford to get IVF or pay for private adoption then the monetary aspect is taken care of. She doesn't necessarily need IVF if she's still relatively fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:37 AM
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Do you think it's easy raising a child alone? Without a man to help pay for expenses, care for it, and/or pay child support? I don't think women "need" to have kids per se, but if you're both single and childless I think you'll be pretty lonely. Divorced moms still have their kids. A DINK woman still has her man. Who will you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:34 AM
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What about wives who remarry after being widowed?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:31 AM
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it's rude to call people out. This is PPD lol who gives a shit I mean, you could too, extremely easily. I couldn't. I don't get into long arguments with people on more personal and normative topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:18 AM
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https://imgur.com/a/pnrGMqF 🗿🗿🗿🗿
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:16 AM
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He could’ve just GRABBED IT and not give it back. Obviously. If he does something like that, it's starting to get into forceful behavior. What if - there’s no cell service - she can’t afford Uber - her phones out of battery what then ? I don't know, what did people do before Uber? They walked or they hitchhiked. Pestering someone for sex after they said no regardless of the situation, whether they’re in a public place or a shack in the middle of the woods. Is as the very least sexual harassment …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:13 AM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:11 AM
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If it is then you should be easily able to find a single example. Could you do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:57 PM
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I have rarely seen that kind of sentiment from men here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:52 PM
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Natural selection does select for reproductive success but that doesn't necessarily involve a conscious desire to have offspring. Many organisms don't even have a nervous system and are incredibly successful at reproduction, like bacteria for instance. In humans, I think there would have been little to no evolutionary incentive to evolve a conscious desire to have offspring. Humans have a sex drive, that produces offspring whether they want them or not. Hell, humans in the past may not have even…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:50 PM
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I was actually surprised when I first read some men unironically saying something along the lines of “I want to pass my genes on”. I didn’t realize it was so hard coded into them. I think the men who actually think like this are a small minority. If not on PPD then at least in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:46 PM
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You're misunderstand the point that most most guys here make with regards to fertility. The typical argument is not necessarily "men ought to reproduce in life, and seek fertile women" It's more along the lines "males evolved to be attracted to things like low WHR and youth because those traits indicate fertility. males who were attracted to these traits experienced greater reproductive success and were more likely to pass those traits down to the next generation". The first is a normative("ough…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:44 PM
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Seems like this sub peddles the idea that if you’re a woman that hasn’t reproduced, you’re a failure and will live your 40+ years miserably. Women are much more social than men. When they get older and their parents have passed away, and they've drifted apart from your friends and siblings, who will they have?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:40 PM
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Agree with most of this but..... So the bad boy gets ...... her virginity Why do you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:32 PM
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In many of our interactions with people, they are treated as commodities in some sense that we ask ourselves "what do they bring to the table" or "how can they make my life better". What's wrong with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:32 PM
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What if - they’re at her house. Ask him to leave and if he doesn't then it's trespassing, with all the legal implications associated with it(includes with regards to sexual consent). he’s her ride home - they’re in a car in the middle of nowhere Find your own way home. Uber is ubiquitous. You don't have a right to be driven home. he has her phone Why would he have her phone?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 10:57 PM
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How is persistently asking for something intimidation? There's nothing preventing them from refusing or leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 09:46 AM
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Begging a women for sex until she finally gives in assault something to keep in mind. No it isn't. “So what if I tried to rape you, you could’ve just left !” Explicitly asking for sex is completely antithetical to rape. I am assuming you’ve never had a man act sexually aggressive towards you Asking you is not "aggression".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 07:00 AM
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If you have to wear someone down with multiple requests in a short period of time There was nothing stopping her from continuing to say no, or leaving, or asking him to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 03:45 AM
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Either when that person said 'no' you ignored it which says more about you than about her, or they changed their mind and came back Why are you assuming that? How do you know that she didn't change her mind after he asked a second or a third time?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:34 AM
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There's nothing preventing her from continuing to say "no" or just leaving/asking you to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:33 AM
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You realize that you would be taller than a 5'6"-5'8" guy if you were going out together and you wore high heels right? And you don't think you'd have a problem with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:35 AM
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How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:32 AM
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That's a very pessimistic take.....
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:31 AM
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Makeup doesn't change my face that much. yes it does lol The equivalent to men lying about their height and wearing platforms is a woman putting a picture on OLD where she has 110lbs lighter. Shoe lifts only make guys 1-2 inches taller. It's not like your giant 4-5 inch heels.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:30 AM
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If the "right woman" doesn't care about height then there must be something wrong with the vast majority of women.....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:31 AM
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So a guy superficially changing his appearance to attract members of the opposite sex makes him a misogynist? I wonder if you would apply the same logic to women who use makeup and shapewear to attract men....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:45 AM
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Then I'd say he leans towards the second group Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:33 AM
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Guys hung up on their percieved "flaws" Do you think it's merely a "perceived" flaw?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:32 AM
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He didn't ask for your opinion either but here you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:31 AM
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Say it's because he thinks it will make him more attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:30 AM
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Would you wear makeup on the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:29 AM
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He thinks it will make him more attractive to women. It definitely does, so long as they don't know about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:29 AM
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There is no need for him to justify that to you. He's not asking you to follow his lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:40 PM
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They go to third world countries so they can leverage their socioeconomic status. I think that plays a role as well but it's not purely about money, which is what would make him a BB. Many SE Asian women simply consider white men to be physically attractive than their own countrymen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:20 PM
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Why do you assume it's necessarily BB? Asian women, for instance, really like white guys. Part of it is height. The average man in the Philippines is 5'4". A 5'9" or 5'10" a white American man would heightmog the vast majority of guys around him just by travelling there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:32 PM
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Now ask yourself with utmost hubris, as nice and chill and harmless and good as this guy is, what does he actually offer a woman as a life partner? Why, if you’re an average woman getting a fair bit of attention from many other Adams and better guys also, would you go “Right, yeah, I’m going to cut the search short here and spend my life with this guy, co habit with this guy, have sex only with this guy for the rest of my life. He offers exclusivity and commitment which is something extremely co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:22 PM
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You are using human as a synonym for person No I wasn't. I didn't even use the words "person" or "personhood". What the requirements are for human material to be "complete" enough to be a person, or "a human" in your terms, isn't a scientific question. What constitutes an individual human organism is a scientific question.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:16 PM
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It is but that doesn't mean we ought to focus our lives around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:54 AM
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Biology isn't normative, people misuse it when they claim things like that. The theory of natural selection explains that organisms have evolved traits that help them reproduce successfully but it does not say that you ought to dedicate your life to reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:38 AM
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When it comes to mating Why do you think life should revolve around sex? That's a big part of what got us into this shit in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:53 AM
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Every time Andrew Tate comes up, it makes me think of the research I've seen showing that women have much stronger in-group bias than guys do. I don't agree with him on most things but I have a really hard time seeing male influencers that encourage a male collective identity as being bad. Women tend to be chauvinistic and generally side with other women, and if men "take the high road" and be radical egalitarians/individualists in this regard will only screw us over. I have a lot in common with…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:40 AM
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A "situationship" is when a woman wants a guy to be her boyfriend but he won't commit I understand it to mean any sexual relationship that hasn't been defined.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:17 AM
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You should speak for yourself. Most women in college sleep around. Women in situationships and FWB relationships can very well be satisfied, at least for a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:47 AM
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And the fact that younger girls are more likely to put up with (what will be experienced by them as) commitment-phobia Women aren't entitled to commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:43 AM
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It's not a "potential life". It is a living human individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:05 AM
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You realize that laws can make exceptions for those scenarios and their existence is a poor justification for permitting elective abortions? or whether they'll find cancer when you're pregnant Standard practice here is to do tumor removal surgery first and wait to do chemotherapy or radiation therapy until after the child is born.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 02:33 AM
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Dying from murder and dying from cancer both result in death so therefore the are morally comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:27 AM
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In this document, does it equate individual with person? No it doesn't, it acknowledges that personhood is a moral question. It merely seeks to address the scientific question of when an individual human life begins.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:26 AM
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but not a person nor individual. They're an individual human organism. https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/19/19-1392/185346/20210729162737297_19-1392%20BRIEF%20OF%20BIOLOGISTS%20AS%20AMICI%20CURIAE%20IN%20SUPPORT%20OF%20NEITHER%20PARTY.pdf Being physically attached to it's mother doesn't mean it's not an individual organism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:42 AM
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Abortion is not an accident.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:41 AM
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That's exactly what it is. Something being made of human DNA does not inherently grant is personhood. Personhood is normative. I'm not talking about normative issues here. I never used the word "personhood". Tumors have human DNA. A dead fetus or stillborn infant has human DNA, as does an adult corpse it medical vegetable. These things are human(adjective), like how a mcnugget is chicken(adjective). A living human zygote, embro, or fetus is a human(noun), like how a newly hatched chick is a chic…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:30 AM
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What’s an individual human to you It's a scientific fact
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:27 AM
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I don't care what it looks like to you, it's an individual human.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:06 AM
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Life doesn't "begin". You take a living sperm and combine it with a living egg to make a new living zygote. The zygote represents a new organism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:35 PM
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Science can only tell you whether it's human material - but so is a corpse, or a skin cell Science tells us that it is an individual human organism A corpse or a skin cell from a human is human(adjective) but unlike a human fetus, embryo, or zygote it is not a human(noun). which obviously don't have claims to personhood or anything of the like. I didn't use the word "personhood", did I?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:33 PM
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Early in pregnancy, abortion is just inducing a period. This is not mutually exclusive with killing a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:31 PM
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Human DNA, yes, but not exactly human in the sense we know. The word "human" refers to a certain type of organism, in all stages of it's life cycle. What is a gestating woman carrying in her uterus but another human? A dog? A porpoise? Digging a seed out of the ground before it starts to really take root is different then cutting down a whole tree. Only in the sense that you are killing the same type of organism in different stages of it's life cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:30 PM
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"Murder" in this context is used to refer to unjustified killing. I said it was killing, not that it was murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:28 PM
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Abortion is everyone’s issue, you don’t want doctors to let you die from sepsis due to a dead fetus they’re afraid of taking out of you whether it was a planed pregnancy or not. This is a cop out. The vast majority of abortions are elective, not therapeutic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:26 PM
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There is very little gender disparity in pro-choice/pro-life identification. There are about as many pro-life women as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:25 PM
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The correct opinion is that an individual human life begins at conception so abortion always involves killing a human. Because that is a scientific fact. Now the question of whether abortion is morally acceptable or not is not a scientific question.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:21 PM
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link?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:19 PM
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they just kill them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:17 PM
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not realising that those women with a low count won't have the experience they desire. Speak for yourself, men don't necessarily desire "experienced" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:04 AM
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Since animals do x thing, humans should do x thing. Humans are animals I wasn't talking about what humans should do, I was talking about how humans should be classified based on age. Don't strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:02 AM
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it's a CMV, if she's going to attack a strawman then there's no point in her leaving a comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:00 AM
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I'm not talking about actually having a beard, I'm talking about the ability to grow a beard. Women cake their faces in makeup, use shapewear, and do all kinds of procedures to superficially enhance their appearance. I really don't give a shit what you think about guys not cutting their INNATE AND NATURAL facial hair because doing so would expose a bad trait. It's nowhere near as deceptive as what any of you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:58 AM
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excuse me that was a typo, i meant to write "early 30s"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:55 AM
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I'm not referring to whether you actually have it. I'm referring to your ability to grow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:43 AM
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yeah, idk if its just me coping because i have zero facial hair(but pretty good lower face) but i dont see women having a strong preference either way when it comes to facial hair. regardless, being able to grow facial hair can never hurt you. if you think you look better clean shaven then just shave it off. sometimes i wish i could grow more facial hair not for women, but because it would be cool to be able to style it in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:04 AM
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Depends on how good your lower face is tbh. If you have a good lower face being clean shaven lets you show it off. If not then a big beard can help cover it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:00 AM
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What is "fully developed" facial hair? When your facial hair thickness and coverage stop increasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:59 AM
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then tell that to the people who say it, not to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:53 AM
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Since male lions aren't considered adults until their mane is fully developed, maybe male humans shouldn't be considered adults until their facial hair is fully developed, which often happens sometime in their 20s or early 30s. Both are major secondary sexual characteristics after all. Discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:49 AM
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The only thing that matters is if whether he's happier being or happier with a less desirable woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 03:48 AM
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Younger faces were perceived as more attractive by all participants, regardless of sex. It doesn't break it down by both age and sex. I think younger women definitely find younger men more physically attractive, but I doubt older women feel the same way. This is just common sense, though. Come on. 😂 How can you not see that older men are less attractive? Beauty is normative. And "common sense" isn't a great basis for an argument. I think "men age better than women do" should be common sense but …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 03:00 AM
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I think you just linked the first research paper that came up without even reading it. It doesn't break down ratings by both the age and sex of the rater simultaneously. It doesn't tell us how older women specifically rated younger male faces vs older male faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:44 AM
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amogus
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:31 AM
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i bet most of her male students looked up her videos lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:30 AM
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Older women also generally find younger men more physically attractive than older men. Do you have evidence to support this? even if they wouldn't choose them for a LTR In study 1 I linked, male respondents set lower minimum ages for both "relationships" and "marriage" than female respondents the same age did did.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:24 AM
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Older women find older men more desirable because of compatibility reasons Do they? Older women may be more "compatible"(whatever you mean by that) but older men still generally find younger women more physically attractive. And if so, do they prefer older women as strongly as strongly as older women prefer older men? The research I've posted pretty clearly shows that the answer is "no, not even close". Even for serious relationships men tend to be very open to dating women much younger than the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:17 AM
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They don’t prefer older men because they find them more sexually attractive than younger men. I never said they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:10 AM
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On what grounds? To what extent women are sexually/romantically interested in them, obviously. That's what "desirability" means in this context. Have you seen Arabian, Persian, Bangladeshi, and Chinese women? I don't live in Arabia, Persia, Bangladesh, or China. And neither do most PPD users. Most posts are referring to western countries, especially the US. Not to mention black women whose skin hardly crack compared to white women. Black people are a minority in the west, and in the US at least,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:09 AM
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Ok? What's your point? How is this related to the claim in the title?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:53 AM
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I don't know if it's appropriate to label older men settling for older men as "finding older women more desirable", but regardless, older men don't have a strong preference for older women the same way that older women have a strong preference for older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:51 AM
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Denying scientific facts doesn't make them untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:48 AM
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I chose that as a thought experiment specifically because I realized that men are more interested in sex than women and the physical experience isn't same for us. Instead of comparing female reactions to rape to male reactions to rape, I'm instead comparing reactions to rape, generally, with reactions to mutilation, generally. Judging by the reactions to my comment I think most people would choose rape, which arguably proves my point I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:46 AM
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lolwut. They're women aren't they? And by men's standards, they're 10's, and 'high value' aren't they? I doubt that most men would consider Charlize Theron a "10" Celebrities are not representative of the vast majority of people
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:42 AM
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The woman finishing her education. If you're not finished with your education until your late twenties then you're probably retarded and shouldn't have kids. And to answer your question on why women should have kids earlier, it's easier to have children when you're young and they're less likely to have defects.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:37 AM
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The point is that the woman didn't have a choice "Have sex with me or else I'll cut your finger off" By your logic that wouldn't be rape because there wasn't a choice? Agreeing to sex because the alternative was violence is textbook rape. It's pretty dumb to say you would choose it over something else when others don't have a choice. Most crime victims didn't have any choice, as I said rape isn't unique in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:34 AM
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you shouldn't be allowed within 500 feet of a nursing home lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:29 AM
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It may be easier for women to find partners than men regardless of age, but the topic of this post is how your desirability changes with age, so that's not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:27 AM
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Not necessarily true at the echelons of society. Take Charlize Theron for example. I don't care that much about celebrities and you shouldn't either. Stop letting them live rent free in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:26 AM
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The idea that an undesirable man somehow becomes desirable as he ages is not in line with reality My title: "Men's desirability declines much less with age compared to women's." Did I say that men generally become more desirable with age? No, I didn't. I'm sure it is true in some instances though, such as if he loses weight and/or get ripped(women can also become more desirable with age if they lose weight and get fit). Or if he has a bad lower face and his beard fills in with age and helps cove…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:24 AM
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only if all of us are wearing socks
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:03 PM
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"women aren't that picky teehee"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:02 PM
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How to NEVER get friend zoned(100% SUCCESS RATE): Don't be friends with women You're welcome
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:02 PM
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that was kinda a joke tbh pretty face + not chubby is enough for me. yeah of course agreeable women exist but it's a numbers game. and it's better to not appear really stingy to improve your odds. drinks aren't a lot of money, and if you're only paying for your own food at a dinner date you're not even spending any money on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:01 PM
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Better paying hookers than not getting a given girl's best deal What are you smoking? Paying for your own food at a dinner date or paying for drinks isn't a significant expense lmao. You'd have to look like ernest khalimov, the literal gigachad model, to get away with being that stingy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:00 PM
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May not work for everyone, but I think average guy looksmaxing doesn't have to splurge upfront and can at least get a few dates for essentially free. Maybe with average looking bitches but unfortunately I am stacysexual 😔😔😔
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:41 PM
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I think AF/BB is more of a spectrum. And a lot of guys just aren't good looking enough to be 100% AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:39 PM
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Ideas for guys not wanting to too much spend money on dinner dates? I got two. Maybe go to a bar instead of a restaurant? It's more affordable(but not lame like a coffee date) and alcohol is a social lubricant I read this one on TRP: if you're at a restaurant say that you need to go to the bathroom and find your server, and ask privately for separate cheques. If the check comes like that I don't think most women would be entitled enough to insist that you pay. Not offering to pay the entire thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:14 PM
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Then we end up becoming a species that's more suited for survival. It's highly mistaken to view natural selection as a process that necessarily improves the "species" and their ability to survive. The species concept itself is arbitrary and there isn't a scientific consensus on how it should be defined. Natural selection is better described as a process that selects for the genes that are most successful at persisting. The gene-centered view of evolution has been the scientific consensus for dec…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:51 PM
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when it comes to genetic fitness a good strategy is simply being somewhere first. Humans, as a nomadic species, would constantly make jumps to new habitats. I say "jumps" not "flows" because passages might be dangerous and open for only some time and after a while, rendering populations mostly isolated from each other: think a tribe being able to cross mountains during a favourable year when it comes to weather and then being sealed off and having the new habitat only to themselves - genes of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:07 PM
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That's an interesting hypothesis but I've never seen any sort of evidence to suggest that this was a common motivation for war.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 03:07 AM
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Consider that a lot of adaptions (i.e. different skin tones/phenotypes, eye shape, hair types, diet adaptions etc) These changes are relatively superficial though. Complex behaviors like sexual selection are not. Most documented hunter gatherer or "primitive" societies I think extant hunter gatherer groups aren't a great representation of prehistoric human hunter gatherers. The climate was a lot cooler and drier during the Pleistocene with fewer forests and more grassland, and large mammals domi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 03:06 AM
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Well since it’s changed I think examining what female sexual behavior was like for most of hominin existence can tell us what they truly desire. Most estimates of fertility measures for men and women aged 15–44: For 2011–2015, 85.0% of women had given birth and 80.4% of men had fathered a child by ages 40-44 This doesn't account for paternity fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:10 PM
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This assumes women had a choice and were not taken by force. Why would it be so disproportionate then? If male reproductive success was primarily determined by male strength and ability to overpower women instead of how desirable they were to women, it would be far less disproportionate because most men(especially physically fit hunter-gatherers) can overpower most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:05 PM
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Average men and womens reproductive success rates are relatively balanced although women will always have an "edge" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2833377/ This is for all our ancestors, not just our pre-agricultural ancestors. In recent centuries reproductive ratios have become more balanced and the human population has exploded. If you're including that then obviously it would paint a more balanced picture, but it's an recent anomaly and doesn't reflect how hominins have lived fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:18 PM
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yes, but if the mother dies while giving birth to a daughter, it's a very morbid zero change. That's assuming that infant survives the initial process there's a wet nurse available to feed it(formula obviously didn't exist)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:11 PM
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I would like data of actual hunter gatherers. This is data about hunter gatherers, did you read the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:53 PM
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It finds that the gender gap in infant mortality was as high as 30 percent at its peak around 1970. That's hardly enough to explain the disparity. And prior to modern medicine female mortality would have been much higher as well due to the risks of childbirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:53 PM
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Well it makes since since many men died young in wars I doubt that most men were dying immediately upon reaching sexual maturity so they had ample time to reproduce. As I'm sure you're aware, the male role in reproduction can be accomplished in as little as a few minutes. And childbirth was very dangerous back then so many women would have died young as well giving birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:51 PM
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I doubt that explains most or all of the disparity. Although men were more likely to die from violence, childbirth was incredibly dangerous for women at the time and many women would have died from that. And it's not like a lot of men would have died immediately upon reaching sexual maturity, they had ample time to reproduce but many of them didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:46 PM
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I know in TRP you have this very earnest and strong belief that all women are out here dating these abusive men I doubt that most RP guys genuinely believe that literally every single woman that exists is like this. I don't like how they speak in absolutes though. If TRP is supposed to be the holy grail of women’s behavior how does that explain a woman who breve cheats? IMO most RP claims about female behavior have a basis in truth but they're hyperbolic. How does it explain a woman who only dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:42 PM
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You took vows before god Many people aren't religious these days, getting married by a minister is a mere formality. Just to throw it away for another woman. People change their minds, people lose attraction, sexual autonomy is a human right. And they still have their kids. You threw your family away for a woman that doesn’t even know who she is yet and will most likely leave you for someone her own age in a year. You don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 12:47 PM
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It's a red flag when women attack men who leave their wives for a younger woman. It shows that they don't value sexual autonomy and feel entitled to relationships with men. Many of these same women who attack men for being "superficial" because they value youthful beauty will simultaneously defend whatever physical standards(height, dick size, muscles, etc) that women decide to set.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:36 AM
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Beauty and value are both normative. There can be no factually correct opinion because it's simply a matter of taste. Older women might more beautiful and higher value to you but they aren't to most men. And unless you're bisexual and interested in dating women there's no reason for you to evaluate women. sure, older women are less fertile but there’s plenty of people that don’t want kids. Fertility doesn’t really add to value if people are dating other people that don’t wanna have kids You're m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:31 AM
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In my experience, when leftists and feminists use the word "liberation" what they have in mind is very different from what I would consider to be "liberty".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:39 AM
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I don't believe in the patriarchy How would you define the term "patriarchy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:32 AM
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Believe in liberation more than equal outcome. What's the distinction?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:31 AM
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People have DIED over hazing People have died from driving as well. So you should never drive again. Everyone has different levels of what they deem ok Then maybe women shouldn't be joining these all-male groups if they don't like the culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:23 AM
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Different sides of the same coin. It isn't really. If he's married, a BB has much more to lose in a divorce than women in those situations so it's harder for him to just end things. If a BB realizes why he was chosen before getting married and ends things, then he'll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:01 AM
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Enough means I've asked out multiple people and have gotten the same results. If you can give me a good reason as to why my exact number will progress this conversation into a productive conversation "Multiple" can mean as little as two or three. Honestly if you haven't asked out many guys, and haven't tried OLD, it's not really convincing when you insist that dating is difficult for you as well. Tell or don't tell, whatever, but if you've barely tried then complaining about dating is really pat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:06 AM
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Why are you changing the subject? Not everything is about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 12:59 AM
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I asked out enough. "Enough" can mean "five" to one person and "hundreds" to another. It's not very specific. And he's gay. He said he was gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 12:41 AM
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And men go: being good doesn't get my dick wet. I don't want to be a BB. Do you know what "BB" means? It means being chosen for what you can do for a woman(money, parenting, stability, etc.) more so than genuine attraction, and ending up in a relationship or marriage with minimal or no sex. Most men wouldn't want that if they knew what they were getting into.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 12:37 AM
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Beauty is normative. There can be no factually correct opinion to the question of "who is more beautiful", it's a matter of taste. It's "reality" TV for Christ's sake. The name is a misnomer because "reality" TV is overwhelmingly staged and scripted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 12:30 AM
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And I have actually even asked men out (to which I was rejected 100% of the time.) How many men have you asked out? I was taken advantage sexually by a gay man Doesn't sound very gay to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 12:24 AM
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If she's willing to have one FWB, she has no reason to stop there and is at least very likely to have casual sex with others. There's no incentive to be loyal. You don't need an "incentive" to not see other people if you aren't interested in other people. When a relationship becomes exclusive, it does so on both ends, not one person doing it in the hopes that'll somehow convince the other person to agree. That's just your experience. A man is very undesirable if he won't even stay loyal to you T…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:15 PM
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Why would I want to know if shit will benefit me personally? It’s a general question, something you guys seem to struggle with grasping daily. Not necessarily you personally, but you're approaching it from a female perspective. RP isn't about benefitting women, if anything the opposite really. It's about how men can get what they want from women and avoid being taken advantage of by women. Good for you, want a cookie or something? You literally just illustrated my point about women here calling …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:21 AM
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So was the begging on your comment. What begging? I don’t think the world revolves around me You clearly do if your reaction to an ideology for men is "what can it do for me". Yeah how’s that working out so far? I'm not RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:07 AM
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How are women supposed to solve the sexlessness issue? I don't even see it as an "issue" in the sense that it's something society ought to solve. It's definitely an individual problem for guys who are involuntarily celibate though. I certainly don't expect any of you to do anything about it. I’ve seen so many guys here and on other subs and on other website say this again and again and again. They expect women to help them Who does? Not PPD guys by and large, I rarely see guys here say that. Per…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:33 AM
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Truly God's gift to mankind 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:11 AM
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LebaneseImperfection Sunni, Shia, or Christian background? Are you personally religious?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:10 AM
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ring ring
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:08 AM
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Recent data from the CDC shows that women experience significantly more sexual assault. Even if you include men being “made to penetrate” women are still raped more. You shifted the goalposts. You said that men don't have to worry about being raped. "Even if"??? Why SHOULDN'T men being "made to penetrate" be included? In all reports before the most recent 2016/2017 one, the 12-month prevalence rate of rape for women and being made-to-penetrate for men was much more similar. In my opinion, there …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:02 AM
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Maybe so, I just think people are mistaken in treating evaluations and comparisons of beauty at the individual level like a science.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:15 AM
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TRP doesn't claim to benefit you, it claims to benefit men. The world doesn't revolve you. And the number one rule of TRP is not to talk about TRP or use TRP terminology with women you're seeing. And I doubt that women are as good at reading men as they say they are, otherwise they wouldn't be complaining so much about men. All I see are negatives despite coming here to change my biases. There are barely any RP guys here. You're doing what a lot of women here do, labelling any guy who disagrees …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:13 AM
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but the assessment of why something is beautiful is based, at least in part, on objective standards. If you're talking about "why something is beautiful" in an aggregate sense, in the sense of "why most people find this beautiful", then yeah I would agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:05 AM
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K
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:01 AM
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Beauty is definitely real. Ok? Preferences and value judgements are obviously "real", that doesn't mean they aren't normative. Regardless, he'll rank women within each group in the same order as guys who like women those groups. Not necessarily, and even he did that doesn't mean it isn't normative or that there is a "correct" answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:01 AM
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Nah there are things like symmetry and the golden ratio. Just because there is widespread agreement that these traits are beautiful doesn't mean it's not normative.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:59 AM
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If you think that objecting to something pejorative always means that you're personally offended, then you lack empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:57 AM
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I certainly don't take advantage of one that appears inebriated. "For previous generations, alcohol ..... allowed uptight women to 'relax and give him a chance'." You really don't get it grandpa, do you? Many young people would call this "taking advantage of a woman".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:15 AM
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There is no such thing as "objectively attractive" or "objectively beautiful". Beauty is normative. Even if literally every human alive agreed that one person was more beautiful than another, it would still be normative. Normative claims essentially boil down to an evaluation of things as good/bad, better/worse, so there can be no factually correct answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:06 AM
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Why did your brain immediately jump to false rape accusations? Did I mention them? No I didn't. There is a huge range of behavior that is considered sexually improper, rape is at the most extreme end of that spectrum. For instance, a man won't go to jail for asking out a coworker but HR could get involved. A man who cold approaches women could be labelled as a harasser. And so on. You are 230 times more likely to be raped YOURSELF, than to be accused of rape And how would you know this? but I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 02:31 AM
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Male involuntarily celibacy was probably less common back in the day when people were less promiscuous. Why? Something like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 02:04 AM
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Black guys are pretty based when it comes to women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 01:43 AM
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Alcohol on both ends can help guys get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 01:42 AM
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A lot of older guys here are pretty out of touch. "Stop using dating apps, just approach women more and hit on drunk girls" Like in this day and age there can be real and significant consequences for doing these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 01:38 AM
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And we know that both rape and female choosiness played a role in that imbalance How would rape play a role in that imbalance?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 01:26 AM
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and allowed uptight women to "relax and give him a chance" Many progressives would call that "sexual coercion" today. Some would go so far as to use the r-word.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 01:24 AM
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women are better romantic partners in basically every domain that counts What "counts" is normative. What "counts" to you can be drastically different than what "counts" to other people and neither answer is more correct than the other. It's like food preferences. What YOU think makes someone a good or bad partner is irrelevant. The only opinion that's relevant is the opinion of whoever is evaluating that person as a partner. It's like when guys complain about being single when they're so smart …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:48 AM
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If you view that as an attack It was clearly pejorative. She’s not looking for a hamster that gets his little feelers hurts that easy. No one's feelings were hurt. It's just irritating to encounter white knights like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:35 PM
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Women who aren't interested in promiscuity don't choose partners who want to keep sleeping around. Just because they personally aren't interested in having many different sex partners doesn't mean they wouldn't be willing to have FWB relationships with highly desirable men who have many different sex partners. Also, non-exclusive sexual relationships can become exclusive. They go for monogamy instead. Many women may not be desirable enough themselves to get the most desirable men to agree to mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:33 PM
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Even when mostly humans were still hunter-gatherers (ballpark >10 000 years ago), more than four times as many women than men reproduced successfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:21 PM
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The amount of sex men and women today are having compared to the past is irrelevant to this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:13 PM
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They may not like sharing highly desirable men per se, but if the choice is between sharing him or not having him at all, I think many women would begrudgingly share. At least for some time. And this doesn't even get into the serial monogamy aspect of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:12 PM
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I'm not attacking anyone "In short, she’s looking for a partner, and not looking to take over the role of your mom." Sure you weren't. I’m simply telling you why you’re not getting laid, but hey, keep complaining it’s “not fair”, living in your parents basement, getting stoned, playing Call of Duty, and surfing stepmother porn. Keep making shit up bozo
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:09 PM
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Men are less selective because women make better partners The problems they pointed out with men are similarly applicable to women. And "better" is normative. men don't have to worry about getting raped Wrong Women shouldn’t have to apologies for not wanting to date a man child. Date who you want. I'm just saying it's stupid to blame and attack men for living with their parents or not earning a lot when there are a lot of women like that as well. Women are more educated them men A degree itself …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:06 PM
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most women have a strong preference for monogamy And I would prefer to eat wagyu beef every single day, does that mean I won't settle for anything less?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:46 PM
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They are...if that man is loyal to them. This is tit for tat thinking and rather petty. Just because a woman could sleep with other guys doesn't mean she'd want to. Women are far less interested in promiscuity and having a variety of sexual partners than men are. Otherwise another option probably just hasn't come up So? The point is that if she likes him a lot and wants something more then she probably won't bother seeing other guys for the time being. Of course that can change if another desira…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:13 PM
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What's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:12 PM
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lives in his parents basement Young women are about as likely to be living with their parents as young men. has no career ambition Men earn more than women on average. and spends his days playing video games, getting stoned, and surfing stepmother porn. As opposed to watching Netflix and clubbing? These reasons may explain why individual men have trouble dating but they don't explain when it's harder for men as a whole compared to women. You're attacking and blaming men for their flaws but you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:11 PM
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If you read the full post and not just the title, you'd know that I didn't mean "share" literally. That's why it was in parentheses. Have you ever slept with a man who wasn't your boyfriend? If so, then chances are you've "shared" a man for the purposes of this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:21 PM
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The 40 most desirable women can find a desirable man to be in an exclusive relationship with Clearly you didn't read my post. I didn't mean "share" literally. That's why it was in parentheses. That depends on their standards, her own desirability, their effort in finding a partner, and luck/chance. A slightly above average woman who has very high standards will have difficulty finding a really serious relationship with the man of her dreams. Marriage even more so. Casual sex with highly desirabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:10 PM
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One of the things I asked from time to time is how many women would be open to me dating several of them at once and there's not one that's open to it. Most hot guys, most guys in general really, know better than to shoot themselves in the foot like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:04 AM
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Do women not enjoy sex with unattractive men I didn't say that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:03 AM
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https://www.apa.org/monitor/2013/02/ce-corner#:~:text=When%20it%20comes%20to%20real,sort%20of%20hook%2Dup%20experience. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-mating-game/202004/gender-differences-in-casual-sex If you account for the fact that women tend to downplay sexual promiscuity(1, 2) it's probably even more common than those article would suggest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:03 AM
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That data includes people up to age 49, many survey respondents would have been older married people who left the dating market many years or a few decades ago. It also doesn't include the youngest adults, people aged 18-24. It doesn't tell us how many people, especially young people, are virgins. And it lumps anyone who reports =>15 sexual partners in the same one category, it doesn't provide more accurate data for the most promiscuous people. 28% of men reported 15 or more sexual partners, so …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:46 AM
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I just don't find their anything valid or reliable about this sort of approach. Either use actual statistical modelling or don't. The point of this post wasn't to argue that women do indeed "share" the most desirable men, it was to suggest that it is mathematically feasible contradictory to common objections. Although I do have data that supports this idea. I don't find anything you've said to reflect what I personally have experienced in life. Would you care to give any examples? This gist of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:26 AM
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Hence why a woman with dignity will move along when she realizes that's all he's keeping her around for Women can enjoy sex too, especially sex with very attractive men. And just because it's not exclusive doesn't mean it's "just sex". And?? You also don't need to fuck someone if you're not getting what you want from it. They are getting something they want. They're just might not be getting everything they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:21 AM
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Yeah it is, or you wouldn't have to put it in quotation marks to notate you don't even believe it is really sharing. I used it for a lack of a better term. You know what I'm talking about. why its gendered when in all the examples men are "sharing" women anyway. Depends on if the women are actually sexually involved with other men, and if so how many. Just because they're not exclusive doesn't mean the woman is actually seeing other guys, women are far less interested in promiscuity and having a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:20 AM
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It's undignified to be used for sex They're not being "used" if he wasn't being dishonest. if you're not also getting what you want. You can't always get what you want in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:07 AM
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That's true, it's not distributed the same way...there's a bit more variation in women. Do you have a source for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:27 AM
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Why is it "undignified" for women to have non-exclusive sexual relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:13 AM
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Generally speaking, women only share, when they don't KNOW they're sharing. I disagree. That contradicts the overwhelming sociological consensus on the ubiquity of non-exclusive sexual relationships among young people the US. The exodus of women from online dating actually has a lot to do with that. Was there an "exodus" or were there just fewer to begin with because women get more attention IRL? I've been around for over a half century, and had my share of GF's, FWB's and a wife. When you say "…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:11 AM
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Then try to figure out how the fuck women are sharing men more than men are sharing women yet they have sex at similar rates. Just because men and women have similar number of mean sexual partners doesn't mean it's distributed the same way within each sex. Within men there's probably more variation in the number of sexual partners, with some men having far more than others. And this post wasn't even about whether women are actually sharing the most desirable men or not. It's just addressing a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:07 AM
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That's why "share" was in parentheses. The idea is that a large proportion of women are having sexual relationships with a small proportion of highly desirable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 07:01 AM
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Maybe a free love utopia like those peaceful bonobos. Humans aren't bonobos. It's ridiculous and pointless to try and get people to behave like other animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:41 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:40 AM
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The same thing that's "wrong" with traditional religions: it's unsubstantiated. Actually, it's even worse because most adherents of traditional religions were conditioned into accepting them as children, and often face ostracization from family and friends if they leave. Women who believe in astrology have no excuse for their retardation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:46 AM
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Not you describing PPD males and projecting it onto the femalessssss. Nope. I'm simply describing female behavior from my knowledge of psychological research.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:42 AM
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Well is he supposed to risk his life for nothing? I don't think he is actually risking his life to confront a guy who's harassing a girl, but he is sticking his neck out and he has no moral obligation to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:36 AM
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So you know those beliefs are pretty widespread, among people with lots of education and those with very little. Just because it's widespread doesn't mean it can't be retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:49 AM
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I assumed the people who don't like women don't like them for all of those reasons Not on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:49 AM
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Defending a woman while she does absolutely nothing is not the same as teaming up with male friends in an altercation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:47 AM
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I'm glad you asked Women are overwhelmingly more religious than men, by basically any metric. The only exception is religious service attendance in Muslim-majority countries, but that's because Sharia favors women staying at home, and praying at home. Praying at a masjid is mandatory for men but not for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:45 AM
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It's better than two in five lol. And anecdotally, the vast majority of astrology enthusiasts are female.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:43 AM
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I was born there and I'm fully aware. That's a good example of why book smarts and good grades aren't the be-all end-all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:42 AM
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You dislike women because of their sexual behavior. I dislike women because of their duplicity, compliance, neuroticism, fragility, and ignorance. Among other things. We are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:41 AM
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Ok? That was in the past. Both men and women were ignorant in an ignorant age, shocker. Now, in a far less ignorant age, it seems like women are far more likely to be ignorant than us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:12 AM
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Men love to complain about women looking fake I don't, if you want to superficially enhance your appearance all power to you, I personally do that as well. but consistently go for the fakest looking women "Fake" done well looks real. Kim Kardashian. Kylie Jenner. Etc Etc. These are the most popular women for a reason. Among men for their sexuality? Or among women for their interesting lives? Men are only half the population, automatically attributing a celebrity's popularity to men is stupid. Li…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:10 AM
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37% of women compared to 20% of men believe in astrology. Meme gender strikes again.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:03 AM
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Bullshit. The vast majority of young women are in or were recently in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:57 PM
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Lmao right whatever you say?! This posts is all about what he gets out of relationships, whether it’s a man or woman. And? It's called not being a doormat. It's clear he doesn't mind doing favors and nice things for his friends, but he expects others to reciprocate. And his experience the women never do, they're all take and no give.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:50 PM
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Where I’m from (the south) Sacking Atlanta wasn't enough, Sherman should have reduced all of Dixie to rubble CMV
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:40 PM
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"Female" was being as used as an adjective here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:38 PM
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Guys team up and throw down together, whereas women make guys stick their necks out for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:37 PM
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You sound like you don’t know how to be a friend to a woman. Judging by the post they're not very good friends to him. Just in general it seems like you expect sex for no reason at all. No, he wasn't. He's saying how he's not willing to stick his neck for a female platonic "friend", which is reasonable. You're not entitled to protection from men. Be good to the woman in your life because you are willing and able. Look out for the woman in your life because they do walk around feeling unsafe. Why…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:36 PM
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Interesting, thanks for the additional information. I'll be sure to look into it when I get the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 02:24 PM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-mating-game/202004/gender-differences-in-casual-sex Casual sex is ubiquitous. Also casual sex doesn’t always mean sex with a stranger you just met Ok? I never said it did. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 02:23 PM
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You may think you feel the emotion of love Love is a subjective emotion. your selfishness destroys your ability to show love. Whether you love someone or not isn't about what you show. Cheating means you are too selfish to consider their most basic requirements The importance of a given requirement is normative. Just because you think it's important doesn't mean someone else agrees, and there is no factually correct answer. he loved her so little that he threw away her life Being cheated on is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 01:47 PM
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I've noticed that a lot of rich, white, girls I know have autoimmune disorders such as psoriasis or celiac disease. This can best be explained by the "old friends" hypothesis, the most widely accepted explanation for the rise of autoimmune disorders in rich, western, societies. The hypothesis postulates that sufficient exposure to certain types of microbes is necessary for our immune system to develop properly. Young children who aren't exposed to these microbes enough will be at increased risk …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 12:56 PM
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so they can imagine they’re good and loyal "Good" is subjective and they're not completely loyal by definition. I never said it was acceptable I'm just saying that cheating on someone, or really hurting someone in general, doesn't mean you don't love them. And besides, people find out. Sometimes they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 12:33 PM
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He doesn’t care about her enough to make a real sacrifice if he couldn’t even sacrifice not fucking some random slut. If she doesn't find out about it then it doesn't affect her happiness. Or even if it does, he simply might consider this preference(sexual exclusivity) unreasonable but be willing to make sacrifices for her interests in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:56 AM
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Apparently, people need to follow up on their desire (actually sleep with him) to show a man is desirable. I never said that promiscuity was necessary for a man to be considered desirable. Don't put words in my mouth. "Promiscuous men are typically desirable" =/= "A man must be promiscuous in order to be desirable". What even proves a woman is desirable? Above all, getting a lot of sexual and romantic attention from men, compared to other women. Why don't relationships prove that men are desirab…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:49 AM
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That's not how the English language works. "Easily" does not necessarily refer to a lack of difficulty in accomplishing a task. The definition is broader than that. For instance: "An atheist can easily accept Darwin's theory of evolution, a Christian cannot". Why don't we ask him though? u/Opening_Pattern_301, when you said the words "did you know that men can easily sleep with women they consider unattractive?", which of these was closest to your meaning: A: "Men are willing to sleep with women…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:31 AM
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with machine guns *Assault rifles Most men aren't rapists and murderers. But enough of them are that it makes you a lowgrade nervous at all times. Is that a descriptive statement, or a normative one? Are you merely saying that there are enough male rapists and murderers to make you scared of men? If so, saying that is unnecessary and rather self-evident since you made this post. Or are you saying that there are enough male rapists and murderers to morally justify you profiling most men you come …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 10:55 AM
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but yes it's violating Are you asexual? I doubt being interested in sex early is the real reason most of the time. The vast majority of women will have sex without commitment for the right man. We know this because the vast majority of women have had casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 08:36 AM
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Male humans, especially once they're adults, score higher than females on IQ tests, in spite of the fact that boys are terribly suited to the modern education system that strongly emphasizes obedience and sitting still. And males not only have larger brains but higher brain-body mass ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:59 AM
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Not particularly, no. A lot guys here simp for "feminine" women, whereas I don't like or value most feminine traits. Duplicity, conformity, compliancy, neuroticism, emotional fragility, freeloading, entitlement, taking offense easily, aversion to systemizing, lower intelligence, etc. Certainly I can find an individual women likeable if they don't possess these traits. But this question was asking about women as a whole. Women's love and affection for their offspring is commendable but the only w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 05:32 AM
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januaryphilsopher don't ask pointless questions one nanosecond challenge(IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!) In this context someone's "desirability" refers to how much members of the opposite sex like them sexually/romantically. A less desirable girl might be able to get casual sex and relationships with less desirable guys very easily, but not relationships with the most desirable men. A more desirable girl is much better liked by men. So she would have an easier time getting relationships with more desirable gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 04:57 AM
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Judging by the context, when he said "easily sleep with women they consider unattractive" he didn't mean that it was easy to accomplish for a man, he meant that men don't mind doing it. I think my reading comprehension is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 04:49 AM
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Hell, even economics’ base model, that humans behave as rational actors in the market, is profoundly wrong from the start (and many economists will even acknowledge that failure). Do economists assume that humans are perfectly "rational"(whatever that means to you)?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:13 PM
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Social media and marketing and psychology aren't powerful forces? They chose to do it. No one was holding a gun to their head.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:11 PM
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You're arguing that men don't need to be desirable to sleep around either. He's saying that men are willing to fuck ugly chicks. Work on your reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:56 PM
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"Desirable" as in "especially desirable compared to other members of their sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:55 PM
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It’s pointless if your “research” cannot be applied to anything whatsoever then. Who said it couldn't? The knowledge gained from systemizing human behavior and cognition(presumably what you mean by "treating humans like rules-based automatons") can be applied to everyday interactions. That doesn't mean you should systemize to the same extent overall when you're interacting with people. And even if, for the sake of the argument, the knowledge offers no utility and researching it was a waste of ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:52 PM
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Why is he with a woman he thinks is going to steal his money and dump him? He may not think that but it's a strong possibility. Most relationships end eventually and half of all marriages end in divorce. It's not a dichotomy between believing someone will leave you and believing that they won't leave you. One can refuse to share finances out of caution and change their mind when they get older and they've been together for a while. Uh… so you do agree then that sharing finances is a sign of trus…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:34 PM
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Even if she’s not destitute, he’s still planning to dump her. He’s not committed if he sees their lives as so separate. Wanting the freedom to leave doesn't mean you are planning to leave. Do you think supporting the right to no-fault divorce means you hate your husband? But like I said, to me it seems petty and greedy and miserly Wanting to keep your own money is greedy? In my book, feeling entitled to someone else's money is greedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:29 PM
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So women should lie about their past as well? Not telling someone something is not lying. And I don't particularly care if women lie about it, wise men treat all women as if they are promiscuous. Sexual liberation and these apps victimized both men and women of the millennial generation. Women who slept around chose to do so. The existence of dating apps didn't force them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 02:56 PM
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And for the record women are more obese than men are, at least in the US. I'm not talking about BMI data, that's honestly a poor way to measure obesity. Fat is what's relevant, not weight. Measuring by waist circumference and body fat percentage, women are significantly more obese than men in the US(yes, accounting for the fact that women inherently have more body fat).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:48 PM
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No? Women don't need to be desirable to be promiscuous because men's standards for casual sex are far lower than women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:58 AM
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They're desirable because evidently, a lot of other women found them desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 09:08 AM
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yet these same men aren't that attractive enough to command options themselves. If they're in shape they probably are attractive enough to not have to go dumpster diving If a woman can look past you being a fat loser who wasn't that good with women until you read the Rational Male If you weren't successful in the past you're not supposed to tell them that. Why would you? It's self-sabotage. why shouldn't you be able to accept her "bad decisions" in her past Because he doesn't want to? It's reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 09:07 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 02:35 AM
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If he's attractive enough: dating apps and shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 02:13 AM
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Why bring up intelligence? Do you associate empathy with low intelligence? I associate systemizing with high intelligence. Doesn’t mitigate disdain for the strong and tyrannical if you’re weak. lol weakling
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 02:12 AM
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Me the taxpayer supports fostering children until they are adopted It doesn't take very long for the baby to get adopted. and adoptive parents get government benefits often. All parents get some government benefits, adopted parents less than average because they tend to be better off. Children being raised by adoptive parents probably cost taxpayers less than children raised by single parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 01:53 AM
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The person I was responding to was talking about women, what's your point? What men are like is irrelevant. We have to work, cook, clean, raise children if they're involved, keep in shape And for the record women are more obese than men are, at least in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 01:48 AM
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He’s pretty clearly planning for them not to be, since he’s making sure to save up his savings for a life without her. Or maybe he doesn't want to be taken advantage and dumped? Who says that he won't change his mind if they're still together when retirement age comes around?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 01:12 AM
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You were the one who initially made the claim, so maybe you could provide examples Sure, just google search "scientific blackpill" and "scientific blackpill supplemental" and click on the first result for both. I can't link it here. I think it’s dumb to treat it like a competition, like “gotcha! Women are worse!” Did I say that? No. I personally don't think that wanting a provider, strongly emphasizing physical appearance, or being ruthlessly selective makes you a bad person. But it seems like w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 01:11 AM
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There are so many posts that just start with “women….” That's not really the same as "all women....", is it? I actually find the opposite, when it comes to research findings Care to link any examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:58 AM
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But the reason Deadbeat dads are disdainful to me specifically and that societal shame is needed is because when fathers do not support the children they created through their choice to have sex, me, the tax payer has to support the child and mother. She could have given it up for adoption but she chose not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:57 AM
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Does he have any pop sci book where he goes into this in more detail? Not to my knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:56 AM
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Even if you’re setting up a little savings, he’s building up massive savings account for his future So what? It's his money. … a future that clearly has nothing to do with her. It honestly sounds like he wants her as a starter wife, and he’s waiting for someone he likes better. What, can you read his mind? Relationships can end, marriages can end. Usually they're ended by the woman. He can't know if they will still be together 10, 20, 30, years from now. But it’s weird… you think it’s cheaper to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:56 AM
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It's why we have the childern. ? What do you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:47 AM
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I'm sure you're aware of your own desires, but we were talking about other women's desires and preferences. How would you know that? And why do you think that research on prevailing sexual preferences in women is incorrect? To answer the question, probably negatively but I've never had first-hand experience because I'm not stupid enough to bring this stuff up around women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:44 AM
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That can't be the case. For one, the average married woman is pretty fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:41 AM
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Sure it is, I'm not going to try and change your mind if you don't value scientific and technological advances as much as I do. Based and tedpilled I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:39 AM
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I wouldn't say that. Women from all walks of life with all kinds of worldviews go to college.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:38 AM
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OP here, I'm curious how your female friends will react. Can you give me an update?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:35 AM
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and because people with autism aren’t over represented in STEM. Just because people with S brains are more likely to go into STEM doesn't mean the people with the most extreme S brains will be overrepresented in STEM. That's fallacious, there is such a thing as a "sweet spot". Like how less agreeable men tend to be more financially successful but the least agreeable men end up in prison. Autistic people have very poor communication and language skills, skills which are necessary to succeed at mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:27 AM
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That being said, treating humans like tules-based automatons is dumb I’m not particularly brilliant at interpreting other people, but I do know that wrote prescriptions don’t work because you rarely have enough information to make a good systematic evaluation. I'm not talking about interactions with individual people. I'm talking about describing human, male, and female, behavior generally. While non-reproducibility is an issue in all fields, it’s a massive, overwhelming problem in the social sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:23 AM
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Yea those pesky things called feelings The fact that you feel insulted by something has no bearing on whether it's true or not. and true sexual desire Really? And how would you know their true sexual desires?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:13 AM
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Or if could be we're aware that a lot of social science research uses college students as research subjects, and thus those results may or may not be applicable across a wider pool of adults, including many with greater life experience. Looking at sorority-girl Stacey's Most girls in college are not attractive sorority girls....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:09 AM
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i am a high systematizer, low empathizer and i dismiss studies and data in the realm of dating advice because they literally do not matter for the individual man and his life Really? So research on women's height preferences would be irrelevant to an individual man's decision on whether to get shoe lifts?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:08 AM
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by making sweeping statements about all women How often do make people claim something applies to all women? I've never seen it here, this is just a strawman that women on PPD make up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:06 AM
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In the "dating market" empathising is a much more advantageous than systemising Why? He's not talking about personally dating, he's talking about describing sexual and relationship dynamics. in society That's systemizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:04 AM
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When they both are different but equally valuable. This is also a subjective value.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:03 AM
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Women shitting on guys for being deadbeat dads, when they have the privilege of opting out of parenthood after conception, is like rich people shitting on poor people for stealing food.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 10:40 AM
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All I see is a lot of words and no links to empirical research. Do they? Don’t men routinely dismiss hard data on what women actually find physically attractive in terms of age? There is more to attraction than just appearance. Or which gender ends up financially worse off after divorce? Which gender does? And does the data account for alimony and child support payments? Or which gender seems to actually be the one who monkey branches more? Women file for divorce the vast majority of the time, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 10:37 AM
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If it happens then it's not a fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 09:56 AM
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Is it? Why? Because it means he's highly desirable and he's being treated well by women, instead being leeched off of like men usually are? Do you even need to ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 09:51 AM
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Even though it doesn't specifically mention dating, dating in general have a lot of social ambuguity IMO. Most people don't clearly state their intentions because of fear of rejection, fear of outright rejecting someone, trying to keep options open, don't know whether they want to pursue, etc. Right, and none of this is particularly relevant to conducting and interpreting research on sexual/relationship dynamics. Do you have example of this trend of women dismissing studies in PPD? I see dismiss…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 09:14 AM
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If a woman is really into you she will spend money on you. I'm not talking about women spending any amount of money on a guy. Giving him a cheap box of chocolates would be "spending money" on him. I'm talking about cases where women spend a lot of money on a guy, and he doesn't spend much or any on her, basically flipping traditional sex roles on it's head. If you can get them to treat you that well, that's a major accomplishment and highly worthy of respect in my eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 09:05 AM
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Even if we were to roll with that, why value systemising over empathising? Empathizers didn't come up with the Theory of Evolution, or engineer the device you used to type your comment. The ability to systemize is arguably the most socially valuable form of intelligence. When most people say "smart" or "intelligent", that's what they're thinking of: being "book smart". Not being empathetic or "emotionally intelligent" or whatever. how do you explain the extremely empathetic autistic women who ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 09:02 AM
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My point is simply that in some topics of science, data that is 3 years old could be considered outdated data. That does not mean that we have to throw away everything we know about the world every 3 years. I agree, but the person I responded to seemed to suggest otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:56 AM
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Dating apps were just starting to become popular like 10 years ago. So using data from the 2000’s to draw conclusions on the current dating environment wouldn’t work. Depends on what part of the "current dating environment" you're talking about. Is it plausible to suggest that dating apps have changed the nature of women's preferences? Has Tinder made women prefer shorter guys over taller guys or something? I think not. Whereas it is more plausible that dating apps have affected the type and num…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:21 AM
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In a similar same way, one person in a couple contributing everything they have, and the other person contributing 20% of what they have, and then having tons of savings to protect themselves in the future is not treat for a long term relationship. I specified in my post that he'd be willing to live the kind of lifestyle you want, a lifestyle that is affordable for YOU. I'm not talking about a situation where he wants to live like a king and still make you pay half of everything, so you end up s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:17 AM
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but for certain types of claims you'd need to cite something current in addition Yes, and you said specifically: typically if you’re making an argument that something holds true in the present environment Suggesting that we need research not more than three years old in order to state that something is true about the present environment is ridiculous. That would mean discarding everything we know about the world every three years. How do you know that for sure? What, as in 100% sure? I'm don't, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 05:48 AM
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Like no more than 3 years old. Stuff changes fast. That's a ridiculous standard. Are research papers supposed to go into the dustbin and deemed inapplicable to the present day after three years now? Say that in a scientific conference and you'd get laughed out. It's plausible for some things, like the prevalence of involuntarily celibacy for instance, to change relatively quickly. It's farless plausible for some things, like women's mate preferences, to change in a few years. Why would it? By an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 05:24 AM
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Are people advocating for a return to more traditional values, laws, and norms also advocating for reverting to a more archaic material lifestyle? I don't think so, so your point is moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 05:15 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 05:13 AM
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Women don’t want relationships from men they have sex with but who don’t offer them commitment in return. That's just called accepting being fuckzoned. Did you want a relationship with him before he refused to commit? They actually get the girl. So did the guys she hooked up with. And they didn't have to offer her anything in return. The "safe guy" gets chosen because he makes good money and he's generous, because he's dependable and nice to her, because he's willing to chores, etc. He's chosen …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 05:12 AM
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Do you think most people that existed before liberalism, equality of the sexes, etc, were crazy? I'm not saying I agree with them. I'm saying it doesn't make them crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 05:03 AM
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And reality is that most people, including the people citing the source, are either too lazy or not invested enough to really read into the source There's a reason that I have Sci-Hub bookmarked and it's one of my most frequently visited websites. I’ve seen people trying to claim their source is 100% facts and accurate to how society functions when the sample size was less than 100 people. It's still way better than "Well I know a guy/girl". FDS posts plenty of sources that paint men in a bad li…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 05:01 AM
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The article clearly focuses that S brains understanding systems when it comes to physical things not people. Human behavior and cognition can also be systemized. It's what the fields of psychology and neuroscience are all about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 04:57 AM
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will just encourage crazy men to them move on to prescriptive policy ideas If someone's policy prescriptions more closely reflect what human societies were like for most of our existence, can you really call them crazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 04:56 AM
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The S brain have one huge flaw according to the article. That's in reference to everyday social interactions. And that's usually in situations where there is some ambiguity, such as understanding jokes, or picking up on subtle cues. How is that relevant to the study of human behavior and cognition?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 04:53 AM
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Women have doing this shit for millenia it's always nice to see a W for the guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 04:42 AM
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I know many marriages where the women go above and beyond for their men, have been there for them during illnesses, surgery. One unfortunate gentleman had a stroke and is permanently in a wheelchair and his wife still is his biggest cheerleader. They still do everything together. They have been together since high school too (now in their 50s). That's literally how old my parents are. No offense grandma, but you're out of touch. Things aren't the same for our generation. I think compared to youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 02:46 AM
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As another stated commenter stated, TRP de-emphasizes the importance of money and discourages men from spending money on women, because being chosen for your money very rarely leads to a satisfying sexual relationship. PPD users need to stop calling literally everything said in the manosphere "redpill".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 02:43 AM
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That's so heavily impacted by OLD There's data and research on that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 02:40 AM
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Have no fear, captain save-a-hoe is here!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 02:39 AM
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Babe wake up, daily LillthOfBabylon hot take just dropped.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 02:37 AM
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but I tend to notice a lot of studies from the 2000s or earlier with small sample sizes The vast majority of current scientific knowledge is based on research from the 2000s or earlier. but I tend to notice a lot of studies from the 2000s or earlier with small sample sizes, problems with the methodology, and unrepeated findings. They may not be perfect but it's exponentially better than "well I know a guy/girl who......"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 02:23 AM
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Compared to now, were you more nice or less nice to them when you were a teenager?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 01:48 AM
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What changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 12:42 AM
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How tall are you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 12:40 AM
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I think the guys that I respect the most are not necessarily ones in lovey-dovey relationships, or ones with a really high body count, but rather guys who get bitches to spend a lot of money on him. It's quite uncommon and a 180 flip in gender roles, so when you see a guy who has women wrapped around his finger, always buying him nice gifts and paying for expenses, you KNOW that pimp hand is strong and he's got the SIGMILLIONAIRE grindset💪💪💪
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 12:38 AM
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You clearly didn't even read the research paper. It doesn't say what you think it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 02:53 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289604000492 https://www.theguardian.com/education/2003/apr/17/research.highereducation
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:04 PM
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Mostly it outlines what most men are rather upset about, especially here on Reddit and what they debate about, which is competition over women The vast majority of wars that have occurred in the past several thousand years have had nothing to do with sexual competition. It's possible that violent sexual competition occurred in hunter gatherer societies and early agricultural societies(this was before writing so it's hard to know really), but that was a really long time ago for most of us and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 07:31 AM
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he says on a Reddit comment
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 06:46 AM
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its quickly negated by the fact that he's a redditor so she's likely unattractive and emotionally damaged. PPD users don't make up shit for one millisecond challenge(INSTANT FAIL!!!!)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 03:54 AM
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Without fruit you get scurvy. I wasn’t meaning you could eat fruit instead of meat You can get enough vitamin C from liver to prevent scurvy. I did specify "nose to tail".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 03:40 AM
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It’s based on what the legislators feels that have an interest in policing. And what they have an interest in policing is based on their moral views and the moral views of the electorate. Child marriage is legal in 44 states. It’s definitely not moral. Maybe you think it's never morally acceptable, but clearly other people disagree. I don't think a lot of people would have a big problem with teenagers who are close in age getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 03:34 AM
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Actually sitting down and divvying up half of everything sounds tedious as fuck. It doesn't have to be, just divided big predictable expenses like rent/mortgage and utilities in half and have a joint chequing account for everything else where you both contribute the same amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 03:30 AM
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Buying a nicer house will usually help that, not hinder it. Why? Real estate usually maintains if not increases in value. You can always sell the house and move to somewhere more remote and cheaper when you retire. And does he want to do it without her or will he be using the money so she can retire early too? I think it would mostly depend on if they were still together by then. If that is a plan both people want then splitting everything would make sense for them. It's his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 01:32 AM
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What does he want to do with the extra money then? Honestly? Probably retire early.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:04 AM
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I just bought a home and live alone Congrats, buying a home alone is a pretty impressive accomplishment! But if a significant other ever lives with me, I would probably still pay the mortgage/utilities alone. And my significant other would be the one to pay for food and supplies. Yeah, owning your own home kind of gives you that leverage in cohabitating relationships which is nice. You provide housing for her at no extra cost to yourself, and she can pay more for other stuff. Unfortunately, my c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:56 PM
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Her hours go from 40 to 15. Mine go from 50-65. I genuinely feel sorry for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:47 PM
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To be fair extant hunter gatherer cultures necessarily live in marginal land. I disagree, they live disproportionately in warmer climates with relatively abundant food(especially plant foods) such as tropical forests and the African Savannah. To some extent the relatively egalitarian nature of extant hunter-gathers seems to derive from the harsh circumstances they live in Generally, hunter-gatherer societies are only egalitarian in the sense that there's very little wealth disparity. Compared to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:43 PM
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Like your post, it's a dog whistle for those who'd prefer younger but understand that would get them in hot water I think that's a reach. They could just be the kind of person who's less judgmental and whose views of what's morally acceptable are influenced by the law. (some people do think like that, I don't think it makes a lot of sense but they do)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:33 PM
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I'm rather against marriage in general, but yes, it would be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:31 PM
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And your money is yours and you shouldn't be expected to pay a disproportionate amount for their lifestyle if you want to go down that route. What do you mean by "pay a disproportionate lifestyle"? Wealthy people can live relatively frugally. But a couple living together generally choose to share assets Not from what I've seen. Most cohabitating GF/BFs maintain separate finances and split expenses(though not always 50/50).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:30 PM
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It's not a response that I would use because Congress or whoever could just change the AOC to 21 Generally, with some exceptions, criminal law is not one of the enumerated powers of the federal government so they don't have the constitutional authority to legislate on the matter. Most of it falls to the states. I wish more people understood how American federalism worked....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:28 PM
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Affirmative action isn't necessary these days for women to get into college. It still benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:25 PM
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A ceo is not going to live in a tiny apartment and take a bus to work, just because his gf is poor. That's a rather extreme example.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:09 PM
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Ah, got it. and most/all women on PPD work, then it stands to reason that 30+% of women on PPD would outearn their husbands. Sure, I guess. It's important to note that their definition of "outearn" is very broad and includes wives who just barely outearn their husbands. Even a wife who outearns their husband by 1-2000 dollars a year would be included. Whereas I'm not so sure that women will claim that they "outearn" their husbands in conversations if the difference in income is small. They might…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:07 PM
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I'm not talking about the female population of PPD. I'm talking about the population in that statistic. 30% of married women who earn income earn more than their husbands. Not 30% of all married women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:48 PM
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Are you Russian?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:46 PM
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Even if a person does get the word no out, they are quickly bulldozed over by the older man who doesn’t care if she wants to do it or not, since he sees her as an object If she says "no" and is ignored then that's rape. I'm going to end this here since you've alluded to some traumatic personal experiences and I don't want to go down that road in this context. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:42 PM
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Upvote for Rhaenyra becoming Sunfyre's dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:34 PM
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I think the bottom line here is you don’t care if it fucks the person up, as long as you get off. Stop making everything personal. In terms of it happening to you I wouldn’t worry because you can just say no right? Literally, yes. The reason we are talking about this in relation to young women is because they don’t yet have the self advocacy skills to protect themselves. Are they mute? Are they unable to vocalize the simple word "no"? You are saying you think this is morally fine. I literally sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:28 PM
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If you're referring to the BLS statistics, that's 30% of women who earn any income. Women who don't earn income(SAHMs for instance) are not included in the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:26 PM
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Although then you're just paying for the other person to have an extravagant amount of money left over to spend on themselves. You're not paying for them to have a lot discretionary income. Not any more than you would be "paying for" a wealthier roommate just because you split rent and he has more money left over. It's their money. They earned it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:24 PM
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Right, and I’m saying it’s dumb for a father to fail to parent his own children Do you think not splitting all unpaid work 50/50 necessarily means he's failing to parent? I don't think so. Obviously there's more unpaid work than just parenting. Dad could be spending plenty of time with the kids but not doing many chores. If that’s how he thinks, he shouldn’t have gotten married to someone who made less, or he shouldn’t have had children. “Sorry bud, I can’t play with you, I only do 25% of parent…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:20 PM
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i’d expect a joint account with family money to pay for the majority of living expenses. What do you think contributions to that joint account should look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:09 PM
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Coercion = rape/SA. Yes or yes. In the words of the Ashnikko -“it’s a no if she needs to be coerced”. Disagree. If you were pressured to agree it's still consensual in the ordinary sense of the word. If you weren't threatened with violence, there's really not much keeping you from saying "no". It is arguably objectionable and inconsiderate but it's not rape. If in doubt, and she seems not interested or “needs to be convinced” then don’t do it. Why do PPD users keep trying to make everything pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:08 PM
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yes, I would expect my husband to still take care of his own kids out of his own free will and desire I wasn't talking about expecting men to do any childcare and housework. I was talking about splitting childcare and chores roughly 50/50(whatever that means to you). It's an important distinction. Most husbands do chores and look after their kids, just not as much as their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:00 PM
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"BB" refers to a guy who a woman settles down with mainly for his income, dependability, and/or parenting traits. Not sexual desire and attraction. You don't want to be that guy. However men are extremely hypocritical and judge women for sleeping around when the would do the same thing if they could I don't think women sleeping around is problematic. I think women marrying men for what he can do for her is highly problematic. There's nothing but misery in store for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:49 PM
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People continue to change throughout their entire lives, what's your point? The age of majority for almost everything is 18 or lower, the most notable exception being drinking in the United States. And 18 year olds are sexually mature. 18 year olds are adults in every sense of the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:45 PM
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I find it curious how many female commenters there are in these posts saying that they earn more than their men, considering the rather wide earnings gap between cohabiting men and women that favors the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:43 PM
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Assuming that: HE DOES NOT WANT AN EXTRAVAGANT LIFESTYLE THAT'S BEYOND YOUR MEANS I addressed this "what if" in my post. You're the second person who's brought it up. Please read the post before responding guys.......
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:41 PM
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Assuming that: He does not want an extravagant lifestyle that's beyond your means I directly addressed this in my post. Wealthy people can live frugally too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:37 PM
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This wasn't made super clear in the post but I wasn't really looking for stories about your personal lives. I was looking for responses detailing principles and values in response to a hypothetical scenario, and justifications for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:35 PM
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He was clearly being sarcastic......
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:16 PM
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You don't have to care, but you were the one who brought up your own personal life. The "you" in my first comment was generic, not directed towards you as an individual. I generally don't like to make things personal and start involving anecdotes. It's not a good way to develop an accurate understanding of human behavior. Anyways, all the best to you and your family
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:13 PM
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expecting your wife to do it “for free” because you make more is nonsensical. For the umpteenth time, it's not because he "makes more". It's because he spends more money on the household.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:59 PM
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Coercion in to sex acts cannot be written off as “everyone does things they don’t want to do”. I wasn't talking about that though. Just because someone's doing sex acts they don't like doesn't mean they were pressured into doing it, they could have agreed without being pressured to make their partner happy. Someone who's a real people pleaser might just do that. I mean I know a guy who tried eating out his GF to make her happy even though he wasn't that into it, no one thought that was atrocious…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:47 PM
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with your partners point of view/understanding of the world, you don't be able to build a strong relationship or make important decisions as true partners I think the kind of relationship that you're thinking of is way more serious than the kind of relationship that I'm thinking of.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:43 PM
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I don't think similarity is as important for relationships as people make it out to be. IMO as long as they can get along and spend time together happily it can work. And it doesn't matter at all for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:25 PM
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Nowhere near as much as they changed in their teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:17 PM
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And I don't want to nitpick your life too much, but Taking care of our toddler 30+ hrs a work week Speaking from first-hand observation, I don't think taking care of a toddler is ordinarily as stressful or as time-consuming as a full time job. My mom had my little brother several years ago, and for us there was a lot of down time when he was sleeping, or watching TV/YouTube, or playing with toys alone, where she could do something else as long as she was close. And he was pretty clingy actually,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:08 PM
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Taking care of our toddler 30+ hrs a work week growing our second baby That's fair I guess, I may have been a bit hasty to judge. Sometimes I forget that, for some reason, women on PPD are disproportionately married and have kids compared to Reddit in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:56 AM
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Do you expect your lady to be your mother- cleaning up after you and having a meal ready for you at a given time? It's so amusing when women compare themselves to our mothers. Like, you didn't push me out of your vagina and raise me for 18+ years, sit back down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:43 AM
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Just like he appreciates me being a SAHM, so much so we hire a cleaner and part-time nanny Christ, you don't work at all AND you have hired help? What are you doing all day? What's he doing all day?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:40 AM
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They end up doing things they don’t want to do. Everyone does things they don't want to do. it means you don’t have the adult social skills of compromise Compromise are made out of necessity, it's not the preferred outcome for most people. If you are choosing someone who is just going to agree to anything you suggest it means you don’t have the adult social skills of compromise, you shut yourself off from learning anything from your partner. Preferences are normative. There is no such thing as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:26 AM
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I mean the word “it’s” is incredibly dehumanising and essentially says it all The word "it" refers to the relationship, not the woman. honestly I think the main criteria for these guys is that their partner is “sweet” i.e. agreeable and easily led Age aside, what's wrong with that? Is it really such a bad thing to look for more agreeable women because you want to have fewer arguments and get your way more often? I think the vast majority of people, male or female, want these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:28 AM
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I had a very smooth brain moment 💀💀💀 For some reason I thought that you were from Sweden even though all you mentioned was talking to some Scandinavian(not even Swedish specifically) women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:19 AM
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I might agree it’s natural for the young and fit men to hunt while the old people and women and children gather veggies Human hunter-gatherers didn't really eat what we would call "vegetables" in significant amounts. The plant foods they ate would have been mostly fruits, nuts, seeds, roots or tubers. "Vegetables" were created through intensive breeding during and after the Neolithic Revolution when humans began transitioning to a sedentary, agricultural, lifestyle. The ancestors of modern veget…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:12 AM
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Hey can I ask, are you a man or a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 09:38 AM
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It’s the data. On average a man’s dating pool grows till 48. I think that's mainly due to the fact that men don't want to date women significantly older than them so they exclude older women when they're young. Not because they became more desirable with age. Although older women may prefer older men. I don't think you'd consider that a W though judging by your own preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 09:34 AM
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We don’t legislate based solely on morality All legislation is based on morality. No one can use another’s body without their permission. That's a moral belief. If you are arguing that a fetus should you are arguing for special rights I disagree. There is no other common situation similar to gestation, in where human A is dependent on human B's body to survive, and human B is the main reason why human A is dependent on human B's body to survive. Whether born humans should have the right to acces…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 09:30 AM
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You really think I don’t screen/take measures against that I mean, some guys here think men reach peak desirability in their 40s and downplay how often age gap relationships are a result of gold-digging and not genuine attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 09:23 AM
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No. If I am the only one that can provide it I’m not legally required to do it. That wasn't included in your original analogy with the blood transfusion. This is based on US law for clarification. I gave a pretty thorough explanation of why I think your examples aren't great analogies for gestation. And what if I don't agree with the law? Do you agree with all laws on the books? Pointing out that something is legal isn't a very convincing argument for why it should be considered morally acceptab…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 09:18 AM
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Child marriage is legal in multiple US states. If you mean marriage involving anyone under 18, this is not surprising considering that the age of consent is 16 or 17 in most of the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 09:15 AM
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Your truck is older than I am.......
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 09:14 AM
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If I were you I'd be cautious grandpa. Many young bitches who date guys your age are only after the benjamins.... u/Aromatic_Shop9033 you as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 09:09 AM
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what was becoming legal was still seen as immoral by most of the population till the 1990s. I'm not so sure that most people in the 70s and 80s strongly objected to interracial marriage. They may have been somewhat prejudiced towards it, but to say that most people at the time would call it "immoral" seems hyperbolic to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 09:04 AM
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I was also 20 once and in college and as a social group (involving both men and women) we really had to go out of our way to meet people in their 30s in a natural social environment. This very fact makes it a yellow flag for me (but not a red one). According to this research paper, in 2017 38% of heterosexual couples met through a dating app and 27% met through a "bar or restaurant"(probably more like a " bar or nightclub"). These days, you're far more likely to meet someone very different from …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 09:00 AM
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If I drunkenly run you over and you need a blood transfusion to survive I’m not legally required to provide it. Because there are plenty of other people that can provide a blood transfusion. If I have a child and they need a kidney to survive and I’m the only option, I’m not legally forced to donate it. Is it ever the case that there is only one possible organ donor? I don't think so, so that's probably a bad analogy. Both of your examples, by themselves, aren't great analogies for gestation. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:52 AM
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But if the people are consenting adults, it's no one's business. What if the age of consent was raised to 22?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:35 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:35 AM
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I have always said this, but I have a problem with large age gap relationships (especially if the younger partner in their early 20s) is that I imagine a potential daughter being 18-20 and coming home with her 30yo date. Well that's the thing, it's YOUR daughter, you're biased. People usually prioritize the interests of their own kin at the expense of the interests of others. If my dad murdered someone I wouldn't want him to go to prison, but I don't think that's a very convincing argument for d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:34 AM
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I think it's obvious by his comment that he means they still have childish personalities I don't think so. People change very significantly throughout their teenage years, more so than at any other point in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:29 AM
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I would find it hard to describe sweet, young love as libertine. Compared to the English-speaking world you are libertine. A relationship like what you described would be somewhat frowned upon by many in the US, Canada, UK, Australia, etc. I'm not judging any culture or saying that being "libertine" is bad, I'm just describing cultures as they are. As far as I know, they weren't blowing the grandparents' inheritance on drink, drugs and fast cars. You guys have lower and less stringently enforced…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:27 AM
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18/19 year old girls are still children. In what sense are they "still children"? They are above the age of majority for literally everything except alcohol consumption in the United States, and they are sexually mature. Likely living at home still and barely removed from HS. Many people at that age are attending universities as residential students, and living in dorms or shared apartments. Many people in their mid and late 20s still live with their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:21 AM
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Many argue that women should be able to choose when it comes to her own body. Very few people genuinely believe that individuals should be able to do literally anything they want with their own bodies. Using my fist to punch your face would be an exercise of bodily autonomy. "Her body her choice" just a simple and easy to remember slogan for the pro-choice movement. That's all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:17 AM
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It isn’t just nine months. You really don’t know much about this life stuff at all. That’s only the pregnancy bit. There is also giving birth, recovery, and breastfeeding, so we’re talking a good 2 years at a minimum per child. You were specifically talking about gestation and childbirth. "What do you propose to do about the aspects of a marriage that can’t be shared? You going to offer to carry babies in an artificial womb strapped to your body for 4.5 months? How do you propose to share childb…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:15 AM
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Seems about right. Sweden, and continental Europe in general, always struck as rather libertine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:19 AM
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If someone molested a small child would you also call that "no one else's business"? I'm not calling you a child molester, I'm just saying that the vast majority of people would consider age gaps highly problematic and worthy of prohibition in at least some instances. So there is a need to delineate when it's "our business" and when it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:15 AM
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Women don’t feel entitled to men’s money Many women on PPD didn't like it when I mentioned splitting expenses roughly halfway when the man earns more. but if you’re going to act like a jerk about it if you earn more It's not about who earns more. You could be earning a lot of money and keeping it all to yourself. It's about who contributes more money. Marriage is a partnership and one very few people seem to be able to comprehend and navigate. Being in a partnership doesn't mean you're conjoined…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:12 AM
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Studies have shown that most people's idea of what is "right" is strongly influenced by what is legal when it comes to the age of consent. Is that so? That's a rather esoteric topic for a research paper. Do you think people would find relationships between adults and older teenagers more acceptable if they knew that it was legal in their jurisdiction? Condemning age gaps is really no different to condemning homosexual activity, group sex, sex work or non-monogamy. I think even if both parties ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:03 AM
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Bringing up legacy status is such a cop out whenever the topic of affirmative action gets brought up. Legacy status only matters for admissions to the most elite colleges. The vast majority of schools do not consider it. Whereas race and sex based affirmative action is ubiquitous throughout the United States.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 06:47 AM
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You must be living on another planet then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 06:33 AM
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I don't really care about anecdotes. Research indicates that most weight gain after pregnancy isn't caused by pregnancy itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 06:28 AM
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You didn't exist 2000 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 05:59 AM
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Only if he's also waking up in the middle of the night having the baby suck his titty That's childcare which I mentioned..... ruin his body Pregnancy itself didn't "ruin your body", your lifestyle did.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 05:58 AM
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Why are you assuming your partner didn't also spend the last few years of their life working He said "worked my ass off", not just doing the bare minimum at your 9-5 job. Chances are someone who's wealthier has worked harder in the past to get where they are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 05:14 AM
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it does not mean 50/50 That's literally what MrsKetchup meant. 8 hours for 8 hours, that's what 50/50 looks like to her. Don't speak for other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 05:13 AM
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There’s always more chores and work to do, you’re always gonna feel like you’re shouldering more (even when you aren’t), there’s always things you do your partner simply won’t see and things they do you can’t see, If you can't appreciate the fact that your partner is the primary breadwinner, I think that's a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 05:11 AM
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That way it’s equitable instead of being equal. I prefer equality. Equity penalizes success and rewards incompetence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 05:09 AM
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How enjoyable do you think a marriage would be, and how long do you think it would last if you earned twice what your wife did and yet you expected her to pay half the bills It could be enjoyable if women didn't feel entitled to men's money, but unfortunately most women do feel that way. What happens when she can’t afford to join you on a holiday skiing, or has to take on a second job to save for it? Couples don't have to do everything together. It's arguably even a good thing to spend some time…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 05:08 AM
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she takes the risks her partner will just leave her and no one will compensate the time she spent on their marriage, house, kids etc From your first comment. You were claiming that she wasn't being compensated for housework and childcare itself, which is ridiculous because she is. As for compensation for lost career progression, that happens in the form of alimony. Although alimony in the west arguably goes too far since alimony levels are intended for the the SAHM to maintain the same level of …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:46 AM
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I have. Nowhere does it say that a husbands money is also his wifes. Can you cite a Quran verse or a widely accepted hadith that says that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:39 AM
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For the first time in history, more women than men are enrolled in medical school, law school and tertiary education as a whole. In no small part thanks to affirmative action.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:38 AM
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but she took greater risks in the process. That's true but she was still being "compensated". And it's less lopsided than someone who supports their partner while they're studying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:37 AM
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I wasn't. https://islamqa.info/en/answers/140457/can-a-divorced-woman-ask-her-husband-for-what-she-gave-him-of-wealth-and-what-she-put-in-her-house https://islamqa.org/hanafi/muftionline/113342/claiming-50-of-the-spouses-wealth-after-divorce/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKQKbewJEU0 You seem to be getting your information about Islam from progressives who whitewash it to make it seem compatible with their values.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:31 AM
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simply because their spouse earns less per hour at work, when both of them work the same hours Not because they earn less. Because they contribute less to household finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:49 AM
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and no one will compensate the tome she spent on their marriage, house, kids etc What are you smoking? Her "compensation" was that she was living off of money that her husband earned. Being bankrolled by your partner while you go to school is a much more lopsided relationship dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:48 AM
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Stop being hung up on some abstract idea of ‘who worked harder overall in life.’ It's not just that. It's "who contributes what to the relationship", and when men earn and contribute more money it usually means they worked hard in the past to make that happen. It's not just that they worked hard in the past, it's that his hard work in the past made life better for her. That’s your success metric. I disagree. If you worked hard in the past and your partner benefits from that, that counts for some…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:45 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:40 AM
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Why is it "Muslim marriage so great" I didn't say that. except for the part where her money is her money and your money is our money. That's quite literally the opposite of Muslim marriage. His money is his money, he's simply required to ensure his wife's basic needs are met. Food and water, not designer purses, fancy furniture, or whatever the fuck else women like piss away money on. But otherwise what's his is his and what's hers is hers. There is no division of assets in a divorce, that's wes…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:32 AM
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why are you willing to make your loved one do a bunch more work Did they really do "more work" when you look at the bigger picture? High earning men usually had to work hard in the past to get where they are. Why shouldn't that count? Why are you willing to make your loved one pay a bunch more money?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:27 AM
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its about “what can i get” or “what can this person give me” or “what this person can do for me”. there is no more “what do i provide” “what can i give”. If women didn't want relationships to be transactional and negotiated then they wouldn't be complaining about doing more housework and nagging men about splitting chores 50/50. But so many of them do, so here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:22 AM
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Why don't people want to do more work I'm not going to dignify this question with a response.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:19 AM
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Since your paycheck isn’t folding laundry or sweeping floors, you have a responsibility to also contribute substantively to the household in that way. There are other things the household requires. Namely, money. It's arguably more important. You can easily hire someone to clean and do chores for you but it's incredibly difficult to produce all your own food, electricity, clothes, etc. It’s work that needs to be done. It doesn't mean the work needs to be split 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:53 AM
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What if the lower earning partner is currently doing something to get somewhere better (grad school, their own medical residency, etc.—not an uncommon scenario in age gap relationships). This kind of scenario is especially difficult because the partner being financially supported through their education might just take advantage of it and end the relationship once they're established in their career. Even marriage is no guarantee, it's so easy to get divorced now and if they divorce you, you won…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:50 AM
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If you are an old guy looking and lusting at women purely for their looks and youth it’s a fetish. The word "fetish" is generally reserved for abnormal sexual desires. A sexual preference for young women is normal for men of all ages. If you are an old guy looking and lusting at women purely for their looks and youth Who said that it's "purely" for their looks and youth?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:37 AM
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I think dudes have lust. But also love and affection and friendship and other things too. Which is why LTRs work and why LTRs stay together when people get older and bodies do what they do and you still want to be together and still enjoy sex. What if it's not a LTR and they're just fuck buddies?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:34 AM
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you don’t sit here calculating how much effort they had to expend hitherto in their life and assigning them chore hours in penance. It's not a "penalty", it's work that needs to be done and it's their contribution to the household.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:27 AM
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You're confusing RP'ers with Chads. The guys that women choose when they're young, don't need TRP. The potato-shaped, 5'6". This kind of binary thinking is brain dead, men aren't all either "chads" or ugly. I think most guys lie between the two extremes and can really benefit from being less agreeable and more assertive when it comes to women, which is basically what TRP teaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:20 AM
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Love bombing would come under comfort in RP Love bombing is "comfort" to the extreme and something that TRP would be overwhelmingly against.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:16 AM
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TRP is about how men can get what they want. Not how men can make women's lives better. And one of the most oft-repeated things on TRP is that you're not supposed to talk about it or use the terminology IRL, especially with women. So long as you're not a dumbass and can follow simple directions, no one will know that you are RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:13 AM
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Did I say anything about men not spending any time with their kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:11 AM
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It also has nothing to do with why your hypothetical girlfriend I think it does. Many women on PPD have argued that it's fair to split housework roughly 50/50 if both partners work 40 hours a week. Even if one partner makes significantly more and contributes significantly more to expenses. Because of "equal effort" or whatever. My point is that simply looking at how many hours they currently is not necessarily an accurate reflection of the effort required to make that income a reality. Most of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:10 AM
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Redpill is not an ally to monogamy or romance Yeah no shit Sherlock. it encourages men to be promiscuous in their youths and settle down with a women who isn't promiscuous It encourages men to be promiscuous and keep their options open their entire sexually active lives, and discourages "settling down" with a woman. It especially discourages marriage. It seems clear to me that you haven't even read TRP content and base your views of TRP off of what it's detractors say.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:00 AM
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No, I would be happy to do more housework if my man was taking care of all expenses It's not a dichotomy between everything or half. Most men can't afford to cover all expenses but they can afford to pay more than their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:53 AM
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Yes, as long as he reimbursed me for forgoing alcohol and sushi during pregnancy. That's going to be a big bill, btw. Least materialistic and entitled western woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:51 AM
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Responsibility takes many forms. Children cost money, and someone has to pay up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:50 AM
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Whereas most women seem to work full time But you don't earn as much as men do. So are you willing to split expenses halfway and end up with your man pocketing far more money than you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:49 AM
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Equal free time is most important in my opinion. Why? And what if people worked hard in the past to get where they are? Like medical residency or law school? Don't they deserve to kick back after going through that? And this doesn't answer my question about splitting expenditures halfway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:48 AM
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And there's other examples of poorly compensated or uncompensated hard work required to get good jobs. Like medical school and residency. Or law school. Or grinding leetcode and coding projects. Or by working their asses off in really difficult majors like engineering. Women here somehow think most high earning men got that position right after graduating as a C student.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:46 AM
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For one earning more does not mean working more hours Why should it matter? Spending time in of itself doesn't provide something of value to your partner. If you spent an hour a day digging a hole and filling it back up does that count as "doing housework" because you're spending time? What is the point in living with a man who ADDS to the amount of housework by creating his own mess, won’t help clean or watch the kids, expects you to work and earn at the same time? All this because he makes 20-…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:38 PM
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And according to recent studies half of women say they make more or the same as their man. Do you have a link? The problem with that question is that different people have different ideas about how close their salaries have to be to count as the "same as". Some women would answer that they make the "same as" their male partner if they earn 5% less, 15% less, etc. That's not very specific, whereas my data is. https://research.stlouisfed.org/publications/economic-synopses/2018/09/14/married-men-si…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:33 PM
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I then gave examples with Manhattan magnet public schools vs. prestigious private schools. Magnet schools like Stuyvesant are also prestigious. Maybe not as prestigious as private schools, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:25 PM
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Any time a woman asks for equality on this sub, it's me me me. You only want equality when it benefits you. Why isn't she equally contributing to the bills? How would you feel if OP had stopped covering the majority of expenses?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:01 PM
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Maybe if you're a clean freak. Cleaning once a week or once every two weeks is enough for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:32 AM
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He does a lot more than "a chore a day"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:32 AM
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She is an intern, she's still doing just as much work if not more than he is. Her work doesn't benefit him in the slightest. She doesn't earn money from it. It's like claiming that being a student is "work" and your boyfriend should financially support you and do half the housework because you're not earning money. It's some bullshit. Most people are in relationships for more than just getting their dick wet Getting your dick wet is the main course for men. otherwise they would go to brothels mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:31 AM
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I mean, isn't this the thing that matters the most in this situation? Why does this not register on your radar? Oh give me a break it was a little paper booklet. This reads to me as code for 'has a higher paying job'. His girlfriend doesn't even have a paying job. If both people work the same number of hours, it shouldn't matter who has a higher paying job, their household contribution is the same measured in hours. Why do people say this? Measuring contribution by time spent instead of value is…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:00 AM
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Do they know that "test scores" aren't the sole determining factors for entry into these schools? Of course they know, no one thinks otherwise. Do they understand that "status" and "desirability" aren't based expressly on these "hard metrics"? What "hard metrics"? What's that gotta do with anything? They’re not being “contradictory.” They’re dumb. How are they dumb? If they're competitive for T20 and T30 schools they're probably a hell of a lot smarter than you are And surely not as the majority…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:58 AM
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Ok? Wanting to attend a prestigious school doesn't contradict with preferring meritocracy and opposing racial discrimination? What's your point? And how on earth would banning discrimination against Asians by college admissions reduce the Asian student population?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:14 AM
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but busting her ass to become a teacher or a social worker? those are difficult jobs that pay shittily Then she made a bad financial decision and she's responsible for the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:58 AM
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So hiring a nanny or having a stay at home spouse who does the chores makes you "not an adult"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:51 AM
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If they wanted "meritocracy," the closest they're going to get to that is the state school admission process. Yet... they don't seem to want that. Do you seriously think high-achieving Asians avoid most state schools because they don't like the admissions process? They avoid them because they and their parents are obsessed with prestige and most state schools(with some exceptions) aren't highly prestigious. Once they get this ruling to go in their favor, they will be 3%. In what world? How would…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:48 AM
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Why would you feel guilty about that? If you contribute more to expenses then he benefits a lot from being with you, doing some easy housework isn't a big deal. Why not tidy when he’s commuting then have fun together? Personally I would rather be playing video games or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:39 AM
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You're not 10 years old anymore buddy. There's no one forcing you to do chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:31 AM
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i outearn most men my age. Would you be okay with paying more of the bills and still having to do half the housework in a relationship? the men in here be acting like miserable women hating bums If not letting women take advantage of me makes me a "woman hating bum" then so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:30 AM
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I don't know, I'm just saying that I'm not completely opposed to alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:03 AM
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Here’s the thing though: Men will likely do this too Men are not as brutally selective as women are and are more likely to be satisfied with a mediocre partner to not rock the boat too much. Stop jacking off so much (this gets more into nofap which is sort of a sub category of the RP depending on who you talk to). I’m personally a big proponent of this one I don't agree. If men don't bust a nut regularly they end up simping and letting bitches walk all over them because they're so horny and desp…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:18 AM
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Then make him sign a prenup so when we break up, he has no career and no alimony? I think a modest amount of alimony to make up for lost career progression is often justifiable. It's when alimony starts getting treated as "compensation" for the domestic work they did, or when alimony is set based on preserving the same kind of lifestyle, where it gets problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:00 AM
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You are factually correct, but I think you're missing the point From what I've seen, responses like "women are shut-in too" or "women have poor social skills too" are usually talking points used by socially awkward lonely men in response to being blamed for their situation. If others are saying that they are lonely because they have undesirable traits and it's their own fault, the argument so goes that there are also women with these undesirable traits that they would be happy to date. Sometimes…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:55 PM
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Most women aren’t being supported by men Not entirely, but men do outearn their female partners the vast majority of the time. In the US, married men earn about 20-30k more than married women on average. If men are contributing more financially I think it's reasonable for you to take a larger share of housework and childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:38 PM
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At that point why is your partner even working full time? It's hardly necessary. It would make more sense for them to work part time and do most of the housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:35 PM
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Just because he earns more doesn't change anything It does. It means(in this case at least) that he's contributing more the household financially. Based on what I put above, it seems extremely likely he's not involved in a fair division of labor. Why is "fairness" being measured based on time and not value contributed? If you spent an hour digging and refilling holes in the backyard should that count towards your "fair share" of labor? Is an hour spent doing a small amount of housework slowly an…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:46 PM
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I don't think so, but for a man, being the subject of genuine sexual desire is the baseline for having fulfilling sexual/romantic interactions with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:37 PM
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I don't think communist principles within the family is a bad thing, if anything that's what the ideal family looks like. No need to negotiate who does what, who pays for what, no need to measure everyone's contribution. Everyone happily contributing in their own way because they love each other. Feminist women who demand that housework be split 50/50, regardless of differences in earnings, are throwing all that out the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:03 PM
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Every day? No. And it takes like 2-3 minutes. It's not really a significant amount of time compared to tasks like cooking or doing the dishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:26 PM
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Yes. Men are the ones coping because they talk about the wall more the women do. Denying or refusing to acknowledge something can be a coping mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:25 PM
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I'm not even going to dignify that with a response 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:24 PM
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Men go on and on about their money but when the tables are turned suddenly they change their tune. If they do then they shouldn't. And BTW between 30-40% of women outearn their male partners and it continues to grow. Those BLS statistics are widely misinterpreted. They're referring to the percentage of women who have earnings that outearn their husbands. Housewives who don't have earnings are excluded from the analysis. https://web.archive.org/web/20150208031340/https://www.bls.gov/cps/wives_ear…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:22 PM
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In the US, married men outearn married women by around 20-30k on average. This should be obvious, but just because you're also working full time doesn't mean you earn as much as your husband or boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:05 PM
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I wanted to have sex, but I would have never considered him for anything else! Then it seems like we have different understandings of what being "into" someone means.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:59 PM
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Have you ever known a baby to financially support an adult woman? Are you thinking of the Boss Baby or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:53 PM
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He admitted that he was in fact an asshole. False confession. Presumably he's doing his one chore a day with a little more enthusiasm now. The only daily chores are cooking and cleaning up after, at least, for a young childless couple living in a small apartment. He does the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:44 PM
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I've never seen any research indicating that men prefer to marry women who earn less. To the contrary, there are mountains of research indicating that women strongly prefer marrying higher-earning men. I'm not saying what you suggested never happens, but I doubt it's usually men who seek out relationships with earnings disparities. Also, women earn less than men on average to begin with, so even if no one selected for income men would still outearn their female partners on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:38 PM
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As a high wage earning female, let me assure you that men expect women to contribute equally to housework even when the women are contributing more financially to the expenses. It's uncommon for women to outearn their male partners They shouldn't. Honestly if one partners earns a significantly higher hourly wage than the other, it makes financial sense for them to focus on their career and for the other party to handle most of the housework and childcare. She's not a housewife and just because y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:34 PM
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Especially when you include things like ED. ED does not affect physiological fertility, it has nothing to do with sperm count. At most it can make sex less enjoyable, And the decline is as drastic. It's not even close. This is the most extensive study done on male fertility and age, using data from over 18 000 cycle of IVF and ICSI treatments. Women were divided into these age cohorts: <35, 35-39, and 40-44. Men were divided into those same age cohorts, plus 45-50, 51-55, and >55 For women <35 y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:31 PM
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Even with wars to kill off men (many killed off women as well), the pairing rate in Western Europe for the past 200 years or so has been pretty high. 200 years, even 2000 or 12 000 years, is a blink of an eye in the timeline of hominin* evolution. Hominins have existed for millions of years, and they lived a foraging lifestyle for almost all of that time. Up until the Neolithic Revolution happened around 10 000 BC where many modern humans transitioned to a sedentary, agricultural, way of life. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:35 PM
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TBF malls are kinda in decline but there's still plenty of places where teens can hang out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:00 PM
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While I was actually never into the guy I had sex with earlier on! Mhm. If you say so. I personally don't believe that, unless he really pressured you into doing it and you acquiesced.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:56 PM
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Most 30 year old men do not have wealth or status and if they do it is not to a degree any woman would find noteworthy. This is why I cannot understand how people make this claim. Bob the Home Depot Employee isn't impressing the ladies with his 50k Salary and owning an ok car and being head of his local chapter of who gives a crap. This is one of the ridiculous things I have ever read here. Wealth and status matter across the spectrum, not just at the very top. How do you think a guy who earns m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 01:00 PM
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Are you sure that men are the ones coping? And not women, who are the ones denying and downplaying the decline in their own sexual desirability associated with aging?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:52 PM
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The Wall is a bad term... I'd say it is the Slowdown, as it is not a hard stop. ^ ^ ^ ^ It's a gradual decline, no woman drastically changes overnight, or even in 1-2 years. I don't know why TRP decided to call it "the wall", it's a stupid term. But still, the decline is definitely significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:50 PM
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Side note, I just remembered how cheap housekeepers are, usually in the ballpark of 7-15 dollars an hour from my personal experience and from what I've read. Many people earn significantly more hourly than the cost of a housekeeper and they might be better off just hiring one to come and do a thorough cleaning once a week or so. I think this arguably demonstrates to women how cleaning your home is arguably a much less valuable contribution, hour for hour, compared to breadwinning. It's easy and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:40 PM
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The 15-year-old has a family friend who wouldn't stop bothering him. Same age, same school, liked games he played and generally seems into him but he had no interest. When I ask him why. He made it sound like the whole ordeal of dating and relationships was bothersome making not worth his time. SIGMILLIONAIRE grindset 🗿🗿🗿 Thot PATROLLED 😤😤😤
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:33 PM
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You have to wipe counters and surfaces, clean floors, clean under furniture and cushions, scrub toilets and tubs (which he did incorrectly), sweep, organize, and so much more. How much time do childless couples living in small apartments typically spend doing these things? Not much time, I wager.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:27 PM
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I did say "better off financially", which isn't subjective. Expenses per person are lower if you live with another person. What living situation you actually prefer is subjective. But I personally agree with you, I live alone and like it, I probably will for the rest of my life. Although I am a lot more solitary than most people, others might feel lonely living alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:23 PM
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I said he "contributed more", I didn't say he paid for everything. According to OP she also pays for stuff. Must be with money from parents, savings, or loans.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:19 PM
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"Minimum standards" is subjective. Beyond that's its on the person that wants higher standards to do it. Those "higher standards" would be the minimum for the person wanting it. I think if you live with someone, cleanliness and furniture standards are something you need to compromise on. Otherwise you're just not compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:18 PM
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Sorry babe I have more ben franklins in my wallet so that means you do the mopping More like "I contribute more ben franklins to this household"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:15 PM
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I realized a long time ago that high-earning men would be exponentially better off financially if they lived with a similar man compared to living with a woman. A wise man once said: "bitches ain't shit"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:15 PM
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TBF he isn't completely bankrolling her(he just pays more), but he is doing a fair bit of housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:13 PM
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They both live there, so their both equally responsible. Why shouldn't the same be true for finances?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:11 PM
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If you are in a relationship, all working hours count the same regardless of who is paid more. Measuring contribution by time spent instead of the value of the contribution is brain dead. Would you say that spending an hour doing doing a small amount of housework slowly and sloppily is an equal contribution as spending an hour doing a lot of housework quickly and well? Yes, there could be some exceptions if someone is working super hard labor and the other basically sits around and drinks latte …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:05 PM
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A dating app or bar can maybe get you a hookup if you're lucky "If you're lucky"? What are you smoking? Most women can easily get matches on a dating app. According to this article a third of women's likes on Tinder result in a match, compared to just 2% for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:27 AM
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I was talking about younger people. And in normal circumstances, not during a fucking pandemic where visiting other people's homes was restricted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:26 AM
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That's just a screenshot, you haven't included the actual research. And the demographic is broader, 18-35 year olds. I was talking about 18-24 year olds. Above all, are you forgetting to account for a certain once-in-a-century event that began in 2020?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:23 AM
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Hmmmm, I wonder if maybe these past few years have been extraordinary due to some kind of a once-in-a-century global crisis 🤔🤔🤔 Anyways, link it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:57 AM
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And most married men got married many years ago. Things have changed since then. According to GSS data from 2016-2018, 30% of men aged 18-24 reported no sex in the past year, and another 8% or so reported sex only once or twice. The real frequency of sexual activity might be even lower for young men due to social desirability bias. In western societies, involuntarily celibacy is one of the most shameful and and embarrassing traits that can be attributed to a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:00 AM
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and that if a woman doesn’t have sex with you ASAP, it means she’s using you. It probably means she's not that into you. My current bf ‘waited’ several dates before even a kiss. I wasn’t sure how I felt about him or whether I was into him at all. On the first date his coat had a weird smell. He sounded bitter and cynical. Your anecdote confirms this. You weren't that into him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:33 AM
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Fgs, women, mostly, don’t ‘make you wait’ because they are not attracted. Less attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:32 AM
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Shouldn't the answer be obvious? She "makes him wait" for however long she rejects his sexual advances. Would you really call it beta bux because she sleeps with chad same night but for another it took 3 dates? Probably, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:29 AM
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u/LivingHomework2503 please touch grass
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:29 AM
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There's a difference between providing information and telling what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:27 AM
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Some guys view men vs women as some gender battle, so how dare you not support their side at all costs. 'Ate wimen Luv men Simple as
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:25 AM
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Also, widespread male celibacy and loneliness is in large part due to women's high mate selectivity and emphasis on physical appearance. Acknowledging this hurts women's image, so they continue to deny it in the face of overwhelming evidence. It really is some clown shit. I would respect them a lot more if they had the integrity to stand by their preferences and standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:17 AM
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Men are much more adamant about the importance of looks and it shows. Because men are more honest and more willing to give socially undesirable answers. I don't think men will fuck anything, and I especially think they won't date anything. The vast majority of women can easily find casual sex or a relationships by simply going to a club/bar or through on a dating app. The same can't be said for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:36 PM
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If you know it is important and relevant for the other person to know, yes. Would you say the same about women and disclosing sexual history, because that matters to most guys? Is a promiscuous woman a bad person if she doesn't disclose to men she's seeing?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:32 PM
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My guess is for deliberately deceptive reasons You can't be deceptive if you're not saying anything on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:27 PM
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If a man cares and asks and she lies, then yes, she lacks integrity. I wasn't talking about lying in my post. I was talking about simply not bringing up the subject of "what are you looking for" and not defining the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:26 PM
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"Strategically Ambiguous" is just a new pen name for lying about your intentions. Ambiguity is not the same thing as lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:22 PM
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From the RA post: I take them on dates, I usually pay the bill, open the door for them, complement them Simps gonna simp
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:18 PM
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Maybe it's because I'm good looking. Maybe, but I'm also 5'5. Yet I have zero trouble with women and have many women interested in me. "I have no trouble with women so the same must be true for other short men" Smoothbrain moment. Your main goal in talking to a woman is gauging if she will be a good wife and future mother to your children, not a future lay. You should speak for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:14 PM
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Your beliefs aren't supported by empirical evidence. Women's attractiveness to men declines significantly throughout their 30s and 40s. I don't care what you think as an individual, dating gets harder for older women because men in aggregate find older women less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:05 PM
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Most people feel anxious about directly asking for a relationship. Many people feel an emotional attachment to their partners and its hard to break up sometimes. Damn, sounds like a you problem then.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:57 PM
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If you have an ad for a pool float online So you're saying something.... If you go on a date with a woman when you know she is only wants something long term you are misleading her into thinking you want a long term relationship. So you agree you can mislead people through actions (going on a date) not just words. Agreeing to a date is saying something. "Expression" would be the better term.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:56 PM
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Other guys make far better, more relatable, less consequentially judgmental companions. I agree, sometimes women are likeable enough but guys are way better for companionship. To answer your question, most guys look for relationships because they want to fuck regularly and aren't desirable enough to get consistent casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:53 PM
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You're assuming that there is a "next" and it's not just a nut and bolt, so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:19 AM
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I’ve never known someone to consider brow structure. Maybe not consciously, you can't say for sure that brow structure isn't unconsciously affecting their perceptions of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:19 AM
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Not in my experience, a lot just make assumptions......
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:15 AM
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Because in this scenario the woman is the one who wants a relationship. If she doesn't want a relationship then she doesn't have to ask..... If women have to communicate and you're putting that responsibility on her If you want something it's your responsibility to ask for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:14 AM
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If women asked "what are we" more often I don't think they would be complaining this much.....
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:12 AM
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You're looking for validation No, I'm not. I wanted to ask women why they think that's not okay. so you're hoping enough people will agree with you so you don't have to feel guilty. Did you even read the post? I already knew that most women have a problem with this, I wasn't looking for validation. If you're a woman and you don't think this then don't bother responding. But the overwhelming majority of women I've met seem to think this way. Yes, you have a responsibility to the humans around you…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 05:26 AM
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If you're finding yourself thinking up technicalities to absolve yourself of responsibility then you're not acting with integrity. What technicalities? I'm just saying that it's fine to keep your mouth shut. And "responsibility"? If women are the ones who want a relationship and exclusivity it's their responsibility to ask for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 05:00 AM
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The issue here is when men know (or should reasonably know) And how should he know that she won't settle for anything less than an exclusive relationship if he isn't told that? The only reason a man wouldn't disclose that his intentions are just casual is because he KNOWS that most likely that information would allow the woman to make a choice that doesn't serve him I think with many things, saying it outright hurts your image even if both parties know it to be true. Like when a job interviewer …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:25 AM
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I love my mom because she raised me and sacrificed a lot for me. Even if she was a prostitute, even if she scammed men for a living, hell even if she murdered someone, I would still love her. I find myself agreeing with TRP more often than not, and I don't delude myself into believing that my mom must be special, that she must be a saint. But you don't need to believe that someone is a saint in order to love them. What matters is how they treat you, what they have done for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:20 AM
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and a personality that most women find repulsive What exactly do they find repulsive?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:07 AM
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The crux of the post is: is not volunteering information dishonest?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 03:40 AM
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Do you think getting your heart broken is fun? I'm sure it isn't, but that doesn't what they did was wrong. People get their hearts broken all the time from getting rejected or dumped. That doesn't mean the person who broke their heart didn't have a right to do what they did. Are you so different and alien I wish I was an alien
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 03:39 AM
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If they don't want define it then why would bring it up? If you want to define it you're a big girl and you can bring it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 03:37 AM
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My understanding is that a lie by omission occurs when you leave out pertinent information with the goal of misleading someone. You can't mislead people if you don't say anything. For example if you go on a date with someone you would expect they would have romantic/sexual interest, if they do not and don't say so I would say that's a lie by omission. Because that's implied by accepting the offer of a date. Exclusivity and relationships aren't implied just because people are sexually involved. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 03:36 AM
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promiscuous women intentionally misrepresenting themselves as not promiscuous or at least not as promiscuous as they really are or used to be. What if they just don't bring it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 03:31 AM
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If I say I’m looking for “something serious” If you bring up the subject then this post isn't for you. It's for women who don't bring it up and make assumptions, and complain about being "manipulated" when they're disappointed a guy should understand that I’m looking for a long term relationship leading to marriage. That’s what a serious relationship means for most people. I don't think that's reasonable, more and more people aren't bothering with marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 03:30 AM
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you don't have to lie with words to be a liar, you can kiss, hug, smile Do you think doing those things means he's interested in a relationship? Do you think friends with benefits don't do these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 03:29 AM
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Some of them pretend like they want to date us, lead us on, make us feel special and protected Sometimes they do, but I think sometimes women also see what they want to see. Men who like you as a person, enjoy spending time with you, and do nice things for you aren't necessarily interested in a relationship. Women might feel "led on" because it's not just sex, but there's a spectrum between "just sex" and "exclusive relationship". That's why the term "friends with benefits" exists. or they find …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 03:28 AM
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I'm glad you stopped there, you were starting to sound kind of like an incel. But anyways, that was off-topic, for the purposes of this post I'm taking a common complaint from women at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:22 AM
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Ever heard of the term "lie by omission" I'm just going to just copy and paste this from now on every time someone brings that up: Lying by omission is when you only tell part of the truth to mislead the other party. Simply not saying anything on the subject is not "lying by omission". It's essentially the same thing as a foodie call. Not really. Accepting a date implies that you are at least considering the possibility of sexual/romantic relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:21 AM
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That’s what hurts women and what they’re ACTUALLY complaining about Ok. What do you want done about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:19 AM
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Lying by omission is when you only tell part of the truth to mislead the other party. Simply not saying anything on the subject is not "lying by omission". if it is something that could potentially affect whether or not the other person still wanted to date you or whatever Like sexual history? That's something a lot of guys care about. Most women certainly don't volunteer that information to guys they're seeing, does that make them liars?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:18 AM
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Do you think not disclosing information of your own volition means someone doesn't have integrity? A lot of guys care about n-count. If a woman doesn't volunteer her n-count to guys she's seeing does that mean she lacks integrity?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:16 AM
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If you're the one who takes the initiative and brings up the "what are we" conversation upfront then my question isn't for you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:05 AM
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Do you consider not disclosing information to be dishonest?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:03 AM
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But being judged as not hot/interesting enough for a relationship hurts And the Pope is a Catholic. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:01 AM
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Do you believe a man should answer honestly when asked the question, “Do you want a long-term relationship with me?” I wouldn't see it as problematic unless he actually lies. If he tries to avoid the question, well, you have your answer don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:00 AM
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I've seen women on here argue that a man who tells a woman he's not interested in a relationship, but takes her on dates, and holds her hand is leading her on. I don't think this is ambiguous or misleading in the slightest. Being affectionate and wanting to spend non-sexual time with her doesn't mean you're interested in sexual exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:14 AM
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From a brief peruse in the Men’s Rights subreddit, most posts seem to be examples of women behaving badly. The top 5 posts on the hot page right now are: A post saying that jailing men for not paying child support is unjust A post wondering why American men are getting married when the legal system is allegedly against them The third post is an example of a "woman behaving badly", but the OP ties that in to his belief that people are generally less concerned about the safety of men. It's absoute…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 09:50 PM
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I dont think I have met a single women scared of living alone, childfree with gorgeous kitties and plenty of wine. IMO there's nothing wrong with being single and childless. But being an alcoholic who's obsessed with cats is pretty pathetic. I have seen plenty of sad lonely hermit men in my time (just look at red pill content creators) but not a single sad older women. I mean, judging by how many of them are on antidepressants, there are plenty of miserable women. Maybe you just don't know any o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:18 AM
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Unfortunately, men’s rights activists aren’t fighting to support nontraditional men. Instead, they’re fighting to limit nontraditional women and return to an earlier way of life. Do you have any examples of this? In what ways do MRA's fight for traditional values?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:59 AM
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