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Thank you. Going to read now.
/r/MensRights27/01/16 10:52 PM
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Fair enough. That's a legitimate point.
/r/MensRights27/01/16 10:42 PM
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You're actually advocating we behave like feminists here. It's disgusting on their parts and disgusting period.
/r/MensRights27/01/16 10:35 PM
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many, many accounts of her own domestic violence against Bill. Not disputing but I've never heard this (it does seem in character for her). Have any linkage?
/r/MensRights27/01/16 10:33 PM
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Admittedly I'd have clicked if it were on some archive site. No way I'm giving Salon clicks
/r/MensRights27/01/16 10:28 PM
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Unless you're in an american college.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/01/16 12:55 AM
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Only if you're braindead enough to think that it wasn't a feminist that came up with the study and that she didn't have an intended outcome. The only reason men are less likely to be primary caregivers is sexism. Only a feminist could make that argument with a straight face.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/09/15 05:02 AM
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Non-feminist citations or i call bullshit.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/09/15 10:20 PM
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That will never happen. Feminists are the top-hatted industrialists and MRAs are unionists in this equation. They have too much to lose and nothing to gain. The presupposition that feminism has ever been about what it has espoused is a failure to grasp propaganda and its uses.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/09/15 10:19 PM
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Justifiable homicide.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/06/15 05:04 AM
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Or whatever the local "interfering with poiice business" statute in their area. These are the people that justify police brutality. Those cops are saints.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/06/15 05:02 AM
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Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Yes, a girl being shitty to a girl is totes misogyny. You complete idiot.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/06/15 04:57 AM
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Usually you want people with empathy to fill those jobs. Seriously I'd rather have a fucking robot than one of those people caring for me. Still, if it makes for equality in the glass basement that's at least a pyrrhic victory.
/r/MensRights03/06/15 04:28 AM
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I wouldn't say it was denied. they just privileged the other woman more. Still, it's a win that someone mainstream covered lesbian domestic violence. Pity they didn't cover the stats.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/06/15 12:47 AM
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Because it humanizes the victim dipshit.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/06/15 12:44 AM
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You would have a point if the judge in the case you're referencing actually threw out the case instead of ACD. That means there's a precedent. It is exactly SJWs because it was they that complained. Knowing the type of people sjws are they will insist the officers file a report and essentially threaten them (which cis women, on the whole, get away with). Your claim that the officers themselves did this would indicate classism, racism and misandry. Still entirely relevant.
/r/MensRights03/06/15 12:41 AM
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I am not in the psych field but my first thought is that these people never learned how to self-love. Absent fathers and the inculcated narcissism of women advocated by western culture will do that. Add to that the fact that men are vastly more likely to be depressed and suicidal. Significant self-harm is vastly more likely in men. The reason all of this is allowed to happen, and I include feminism in that, is that mental health is not taken seriously in any way. Largely due to the fact that it …
/r/MensRights03/06/15 12:31 AM
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The good thing about that is feminists by then will have been completely discredited and there will be several generations of women's studies students unable to do anything other than the manual labor they deride men and the working classes for doing and low paying jobs in the service sector. Then we can reform or dismantle Title IX.
/r/MensRights02/06/15 11:26 PM
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0/10 - I yawned.
/r/MensRights29/05/15 10:08 AM
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The thread you linked to listed something that was inherently capable of being abused and everyone making a false report was doing the world a favor. It was a stupid concept and poorly done. In point of fact any adjudication of a crime should be done by law enforcement and the judicial system. The fact that kangaroo courts in our colleges are a serious problem indicates why it is so important to make a protest - which is what that was. The fact you consider a legitimate political protest sexist …
/r/MensRights29/05/15 07:33 AM
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Got a link? Nevermind - found it:https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/men-kampf/ndnldlglhppbllahhojfbmpokdipkihb/reviews
/r/MensRights29/05/15 06:22 AM
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Wow, and I gave you the credit of thinking you a troll. Sexism: unfair treatment of people because of their sex. You have, at no time in this conversation or anywhere else in anything regarding men's rights shown or proven unfair treatment of women. The fact that you are only concerned about "sexism" when it affects cis women underscores your own sexism. Claiming to acknowledge that sexism goes both ways while only actively being concerned about it when it concerns women actively undermines your…
/r/MensRights29/05/15 06:21 AM
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There needs to be one that replaces "men" with "jews".
/r/MensRights28/05/15 09:07 AM
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as far as sexism goes, this subreddit is pretty full of it. Are you trying to make me laugh? I don't agree on any level there is sexism in Men's Rights. Unless your definition of sexism is dramatically different than the dictionary definition. The fact that you're only ever concerned when it affects cis women is in itself sexist.
/r/MensRights28/05/15 08:59 AM
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this subreddit's audience is clearly less concerned about equity and more about feminist bashing. Your post is comical in its lack of insight. If you were to post any of what you just posted in any argument that was going the other way in literally any feminist sub in reddit you would be banned outright. The fact that equity feminists like Christina Hoff-Sommers are considered anti-feminist and frequently protested shows just how interested in equity feminism is - and frankly has always been. Fe…
/r/MensRights28/05/15 08:36 AM
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If blatant sexism got to you then you would be posting in a feminist sub and not ours.
/r/MensRights28/05/15 08:00 AM
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because it was conceived for its current use as a pejorative. You would need to show some citations for anyone to buy this. Everyone gets a color except straight white males. Because we're the devil. Because no one has ever said cis woman. /s
/r/MensRights28/05/15 07:52 AM
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You missed my point - the fact that feminism has to co-opt other people's issues in order to feign relevancy as an "equality movement". You never heard it isn't much of a metric. Furthermore it is a piece of language that actually confronts how we think about gender which is a discussion worth having. Whipping Girl as I recall used it and I could be wrong but I'm reasonably certain Kate Bornstein has used it extensively. They are both, unfortunately, feminists. You'd have to ask said documentari…
/r/MensRights21/05/15 06:23 AM
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Because trans people are uncomfortable in their own bodies so it isn't "on the same side". If you're really interested look up endocrinology and transgendered as well as intersexed.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 05:49 AM
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It is a descriptor, nothing more nothing less. It's useful in pointing out differences particularly in experience. The fact that some people want to co-opt other people's issues to use as a bully pulpit against those they don't like has nothing to do with it. Those are just bad people and doesn't change the utility of the word itself.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 05:47 AM
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Fuck GMP. Archive that shit.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 05:35 AM
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No, they didn't. The discussion was being had as early as 1968 and implementation across a wider group of schools was occurring by 74. In fact I recall clearly the death of all hands-on classes in K-12 by the mid eighties. Auto shop being the first to go. Photography, then all the other shop classes. It predates the 90s significantly. If it hadn't Hoff Sommers wouldn't have written the War on Boys by 94. The elimination of traditionally male-centric hands on programs went hand in hand with the r…
/r/MensRights07/03/15 01:58 AM
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You're dead wrong at least for the US. It has been a clear goal since the 70s and long talked about in education. Girls in math programs date back at least to 1976 and that's just what I'm aware of first hand.
/r/MensRights06/03/15 10:04 PM
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Just how far behind do boys need to be before feminists will concede that our schools are now sufficiently girl friendly? Never. Furthermore making schools more girl friendly has been a goal since at least 1974. It isn't 20 years, it's 40. Men have been the minority in colleges since the 1980s.
/r/MensRights05/03/15 03:45 AM
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Of course they are. Here's the thing - money has been spent on female only programs to increase their skill in math and in order to get more women into STEM since the 1970s. There are fundamental differences between the sexes. Feminism denies this.
/r/MensRights05/03/15 03:43 AM
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Misogyny cannot exist as long as the women are wonderful effect is extant. Misogyny = hatred of women. Nothing else. Doesn't exist.
/r/MensRights05/03/15 03:32 AM
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Which are the laws that allowed them to get the jobs to begin with dude. If the physical requirements were the same between men and women we wouldn't have been having this discussion.
/r/MensRights05/02/15 01:47 AM
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Good. They were only ever meant to be tokens anyway. I love watching their side get hit with friendly fire.
/r/MensRights15/12/14 11:29 AM
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If said crazy ex is a woman here or in Canada they will still get the child regardless. No one cares. As long as you can keep the child from living with the father then social services has done its job.
/r/MensRights15/12/14 09:32 AM
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Even then they are circumcising boys for the health risk to women while it elevates the hiv risk to men. Again, men exist to serve women.
/r/MensRights15/12/14 09:29 AM
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Daily Mail is usually fairly good on men's issues.
/r/MensRights14/11/14 12:14 PM
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It should. These people are anti-egalitarian and on top of it this is unequal treatment.
/r/MensRights14/11/14 07:34 AM
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Many feminists are not against the promotion of men's rights. As long as it is done under the auspices of feminism and puts men's rights after (if ever) anything that affects women negatively or annoys them slightly. Doing so as an MHRA is unacceptable even to Cathy Young. I don't believe "many feminists" exist that support any real issues men face that they can't blame on men or "the patriarchy" which is the same thing nor are they willing to own anything that shows feminism's complicity in or …
/r/MensRights31/10/14 10:43 AM
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I'd be really curious as to what they covered vis a vis trans issues. bell hooks is troublesome for many feminists but she's no great fan of men either. Too rusty to remember what she thinks of transfolks. Kimmel is a loathsome, self-hating guy that puts cis women on a pedestal and claims all men's problems are fundamentally men's - and not based in society. Broad strokes obviously, but it seems as if you're painting a rather rosy picture of things.
/r/MensRights30/10/14 06:52 PM
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You use the fallacy of "don't be the person that drives them against us". They are against us. Period. Being "reasonable" does us no favors - particularly at a time we need to be radicalizing. No, it doesn't exist. Not in any measurable way. Don't make apologies. There may be isolated individuals that "hate women" though I doubt even that given the women are wonderful effect. Misogyny doesn't exist. Never has. Yet misandry is pervasive, ongoing, institutionalized and persistent. I'm trans and ha…
/r/MensRights30/10/14 05:41 PM
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It's still pretty strongly sjw there too. Yes, it is less cis male un-friendly - as long as you're drinking the kool-aid.
/r/MensRights30/10/14 02:29 AM
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And I'm certain covers exactly zero other than women's studies anyway with a possible glossing over of trans issues to make it appear as if they're being "fair".
/r/MensRights30/10/14 02:18 AM
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A) it doesn't primarily affect women and B) feminists will use anything and have no problem making things up if the facts don't fit their worldview and C) nothing will ever change this behavior so it's about time everyone STFU about it and D) this is merely the latest attempt by feminists to infantilize women instead of equip them for the real world.
/r/MensRights29/10/14 07:35 PM
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Clearly you have never set foot in a black community. These tactics do work. If they never worked no one would do them. Until there's a study supporting this white middle class projection upon the black community that these things never work this is merely more cultural imperialism.
/r/MensRights29/10/14 07:33 PM
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By being cognizant of your actions and willfully negating the women are wonderful effect. If we don't men's rights will never happen.
/r/MensRights29/10/14 07:31 AM
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Oh noes, a cis woman might have to deal with a confrontation! Whatever will we do! Quick, get the thought police! They can help! I love how you people will do anything to keep cis women from growing a spine. Perpetuating women as being weak, worthless human beings that need saving is clearly better for the human race than not infantilizing them and holding them as accountable for their actions as we hold everyone else.
/r/MensRights29/10/14 07:06 AM
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Ah, you continue to waste my time with no substantive argumentation. Not any longer. Buh bye.
/r/MensRights29/10/14 05:57 AM
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I'm not demanding any race behaves likes another race. I'm equally against catcalling whether the person doing it is black, white, asian, mixed, hispanic etc. Yet every single thing you've listed is what black people, particularly in poor urban areas say every fucking day. Walk down the street in any predominantly black area and people will talk to you out of the blue saying any number of things. Clearly everyone is being accosted by these poor black men! /s I spend most of my time talking again…
/r/MensRights29/10/14 05:50 AM
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Go back and re-read your entire post and supposition. All of it is why you're racist. Everything from your point of view on. You are demanding black people behave like white ones. You are demanding that they communicate in the same way. You make the classist assumption that somehow everyone behaves like an uptight (upper) middle class white person that's never been outside their fucking bubble. Check your fucking privilege.
/r/MensRights29/10/14 05:35 AM
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Are you a white dwarf? How can anyone have this little self awareness?
/r/MensRights29/10/14 05:24 AM
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The mirror - do you see who is on the other side of it? Not preferencing women over men isn't closed minded - it's normal. You have put them up on a pedestal and when confronted with facts and argumentation rely on ad hominems and other logical fallacies because you have nothing else. That's pathetic.
/r/MensRights29/10/14 05:23 AM
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Everyone who has ever set foot on the "wrong side of town" has a related story. The difference is that most people are sane and realize that they are the ones that need to adapt to a different culture instead of demanding that everything be the same as white middle class suburban gated community culture. It's not a gendered issue.
/r/MensRights29/10/14 04:50 AM
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Your racism is palpable.
/r/MensRights29/10/14 04:37 AM
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Thanks for proving that you can neither do math nor make an argument without ad hominems. Now I know never to take you seriously again. "Oh my god you're exceptionally stupid. " Now I know never to take you seriously again. "I give up with you." Please do. You've wasted enough of my time and that of everyone else on /r/MensRights .
/r/MensRights29/10/14 04:35 AM
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lol. Thank you for that. :)
/r/MensRights29/10/14 04:31 AM
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Did she tell him to fuck off? No. Not harassment. Dude I'm genderqueer/trans. I get hit on all the time by guys in the street. I could not care less. I am clear in my communication and don't have my head buried in my ass. Nor do I expect the whole world to revolve around me and kiss my ass. Never had a problem. None of my girlfriends have a problem. Cis or trans. Because they know how to handle themselves. This is part of living in any large city or any city with a diverse population. Yes, I've …
/r/MensRights29/10/14 04:29 AM
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They did not give equal weight to what constitutes harassment to men except to those identifying as lgbt - and it is self-reported and not based on empirical data. Worst, as you admit, it is written by a feminist. Let me be completely blunt: nothing can be done about this. At all. It is absolutely a part of becoming an adult to know how to behave in places other than where you were raised amongst people unlike you. Transferring your values is the height of bigotry. I find enjoycarrot's comment n…
/r/MensRights29/10/14 04:23 AM
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She wasn't harrassed. At all. Are you going to address my questions or merely continue to redirect and waste both of our time? Anyone living in the 'to gets "harrassed" by your definition. I've lived in black dominated areas for over two decades, close to three. Unsolicited attention is merely how people communicate in the ghetto. Any attempt to paint this as a men vs. women thing is fundamentally bigoted.
/r/MensRights29/10/14 04:09 AM
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And again zero studies that treat all men vs. all women as discrete groups. Feminists are not credible. Being "afraid" or "offended" is a choice and is worthy of nothing other than derision since it is exclusively a tactic in order to silence the opposition. Yet saying that they're afraid of black people is exactly what they are saying here. This is classism and racism at its finest. Edited to add: it is not a significant problem unless it is clearly an indicator of inevitable violence. All it i…
/r/MensRights29/10/14 04:00 AM
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Harrasment is a big problem for women Requires citations vs. harassment for men. When violence against men - and as such necessarily harassment is the norm and vastly outweighs what occurs to women this is merely showing preference for cis women and their issues. If we are talking about equality on any level this is so far down the list of issues as to be non-existent.
/r/MensRights29/10/14 03:39 AM
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Well if you agree I'm not sure what you're doing in this sub. AMR/SRS - the usual suspects. Dragging your suburban middle class white heterocentric values from your gated community into one that is poorer, working class and black is not only racist and classist it is inexcusable. Different folks have different values and ways of communicating. Don't like it then don't leave your fucking bubble. The real world isn't for you.
/r/MensRights29/10/14 03:31 AM
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I just wanted to thank you for bringing this up. Feminism's inherent racism has to constantly be brought up.
/r/MensRights29/10/14 03:23 AM
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Brigading. That's what's going on.
/r/MensRights29/10/14 03:20 AM
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Many thanks DB. :)
/r/MensRights29/10/14 03:16 AM
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That would be because despite the fact that we all know feminism is fundamentally racist it's not that they're ever going to come right out and say that. Trying to bring your white suburban middle class values from your gated community into the great wide world where there are actual -gasp- lower class people with different cultures and values is fundamentally racist and classist.
/r/MensRights29/10/14 03:15 AM
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I've long accepted that catcalling and street harassment are real issues that women face far more than men. Based upon what exactly? There are zero studies that have addressed this (and none likely since finding that issues affect males is in no one's financial best interests and gains zero likelihood of a promising career in academia).
/r/MensRights29/10/14 03:13 AM
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Her fault for not being clear.
/r/MensRights29/10/14 03:10 AM
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Boo fucking hoo. Middle class woman born in a bubble moves to big city finds cultural norms different. News at 11. Pity she wasn't forced to live in the worst part of Harlem - back in the 1970s.
/r/MensRights29/10/14 03:06 AM
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Double standards are never OK.
/r/MensRights29/10/14 03:04 AM
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Sorry but I've been away from reddit awhile. Would you be so kind as to provide me a link for this?
/r/MensRights29/10/14 03:01 AM
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"If misogyny existed then you might have a point". The end.
/r/MensRights29/10/14 02:59 AM
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There is nothing to be learned from bigots or a hate-filled ideology. We don't need you. We see women whose boys are being mistreated in colleges - who still haven't eschewed their hateful ideology but see the damage that's been done and fight against it. Anyone with male children can see exactly how toxic your ideology is, has always been, and always will be.
/r/MensRights28/10/14 09:01 PM
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Thank you. No worries, I'm rarely on here anyway. :)
/r/MensRights28/10/14 08:59 PM
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So was the Klan. Both are hate movements propped up by an evil ideology. Its size means nothing other than there are an incredible amount of bigots to go around.
/r/MensRights28/10/14 08:56 PM
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Feminist theory is a robust academic discipline Only according to other feminists. Wikipedia is well known for being feminist in orientation and for squelching anything that isn't feminist. There are even women's studies classes that give assignments to make wikipedia more feminist than it already is. The MHRA isn't an ideology. We don't claim culling the women down to 10 percent is a good thing. We exclusively want to right wrongs. The rest of your comment is horse manure that could be lifted f…
/r/MensRights15/09/14 09:23 PM
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I point out your movement is hateful - which it is - and then you claim I hate women. Hilarious. That is some typical shit right there. When you can't make a point you smear someone. Feminism != women. Throughout this exchange you've never made a cogent argument or countered one I've made. If I thought my opponents had anything to stand on I'd be in FEMRAd. I am not. As long as you're attached to your ideology of hate I don't give two shits about being pals.
/r/MensRights15/09/14 09:20 PM
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lol you're the dolt because you can't see the forest for the trees. Feminism is a religion, and an ideology. Again, only if you continue to discount the wreckage. Jesus Christ you're dense. Catholicism has much to answer for certainly but has not consistently worked against men. You continue to bring up theoreticals and maybes to cloud an incredibly simple issue. Feminism, is and has been and always will be a fundamentally exclusionary movement that works against everyone that isn't an upper or …
/r/MensRights15/09/14 09:14 PM
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I just did. Show your work.
/r/MensRights15/09/14 09:09 PM
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And yet here you are stating it without a single explanation as to what made you come to this conclusion. Righting actual demonstrable wrongs vs. manipulating figures, statistics and outright lying is a million leagues different from each other.
/r/MensRights15/09/14 08:28 PM
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I mildly disagree. I think you're on to something but what they really want is 90 percent of the student body and 100 percent of all loans, grants and scholarships.
/r/MensRights15/09/14 11:31 AM
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Waiting for the Op Ed that says ciswomen should be paid for their mere existence and that their breathing is somehow a giant chore.
/r/MensRights15/09/14 08:09 AM
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You had no point. You tried drawing a false equivalency and failed to grasp the history of feminism. Sure every movement gets something right once in awhile - a broken clock is right twice a day - and even Ted Nugent is right as often. It doesn't make either Ted or feminism credible. Feminism is what it does. If you want to make the incredibly inane argument "that's not my feminism" well guess what - everyone has an equal right to call feminism whatever it is they want. Personally I just go by t…
/r/MensRights15/09/14 05:46 AM
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I'm not saying ban the posters - but these concern troll posts deserve a nuking. It is entirely evident that the MHRM is not an ideology and feminism is. There's nothing productive to that and so it should be autonuked. Along with most of the questions that would have been answered should a less lazy person read the fucking sidebar.
/r/MensRights15/09/14 05:40 AM
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So the concern trolls ply their trade here. If it were up to me all these "mhra is just like teh feminism lol" posts would be auto-nuked.
/r/MensRights15/09/14 03:38 AM
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And enjoy your banning for even asking.
/r/MensRights15/09/14 03:34 AM
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No.
/r/MensRights15/09/14 03:33 AM
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You're a moron.
/r/MensRights15/09/14 03:33 AM
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Yes, a "great" discussion in which you capped it by undermining everything you had to say prior by lacing it with lies which I pressed you on and you ducked. A great discussion to a feminist = capitulation. So you're feminism eh? Care to point out my doublethink? This should prove to be amusing.
/r/MensRights15/09/14 03:17 AM
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No. Anyone familiar with feminism from its very beginning knows that it has always been an exclusionary movement more interested in controlling others and self-interest writ large. Because you've chosen a deliberately romantic viewpoint for feminism (which incidentally none of its founders or leading lights has espoused) that claims that it is about equality and equity. I am not the one making mistakes here. There is a reason people are attached to the word feminism - it is in and of itself a re…
/r/MensRights15/09/14 03:10 AM
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That's one way to read it. Certainly when your team says it's patriarchy that did everything terrible ever to women - and everyone else- the expectation is that men are supposed to suck it up and not take it personally. See how well that shoe fits? Yes "no one" takes me seriously. Hahaha. And bigotry only being about race? That truly is some doublethink in action. Petulant children describes feminists to a T. Have all the benefits - ask for still more and deny everyone else a piece of the pie. "…
/r/MensRights12/09/14 01:12 AM
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yawn. Indeed, and you're one of them! :D
/r/MensRights12/09/14 12:54 AM
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it's men who created the extreme biases against women in the first place. Requires non-feminist citations. This is factually untrue. legislature is being brought to the table year after year to take away the right of women to terminate a pregnancy. Because people are against the taking of a life. Which it is. Regardless of the fact that most of those same people are also pro-death penalty which makes absolutely no sense. These aren't just men - and women have voted them in in overwhelming number…
/r/MensRights12/09/14 12:50 AM
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And how many of the people in that Op Ed are doing their own housework as opposed to paying under the table wages to a latin american underling? They most assuredly aren't receiving Social Security wages on top of that either. Like most feminist thinkers class is always swept under the rug because it's inconvenient - and because only cis white women who aren't poor matter.
/r/MensRights12/09/14 12:33 AM
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Thank you for always bringing it David.
/r/MensRights12/09/14 12:20 AM
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Heart surgery and leg amputation are necessary procedures. Taking a human life (whether you want to dance around that or not - it's still life) because it's inconvenient, the "wrong" sex (increasingly male in this country) and because you're not on norplant or depo is hardly the same. They aren't merely religious beliefs. If killing is wrong then so is abortion. Period. We make allowances because we, as a society, just don't want to pay more welfare and we, as a society, will do an endless amoun…
/r/MensRights12/09/14 12:02 AM
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Only if you facetiously sidestep the all the goodies including the Tender Years doctrine, deliberately shrinking the number of men attending college and creating wave after wave of education initiatives about girls - and only girls - while boys languish, recess is eliminated, and all the classes that promote kinesthetic learning such as shop classes are gone. You people are incapable of being honest.
/r/MensRights11/09/14 11:55 PM
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U mad bro? Oh wait, I can do that too! yawn
/r/MensRights11/09/14 05:32 AM
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Hardly. Kindly show me what feminism has done to help men. Then transfolks. Then contrast it to the amount of harm its done to both groups. Being both disingenuous and facetious wins you no arguments and even less friends.
/r/MensRights11/09/14 05:31 AM
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Sure, then I'm a transracial otherkin with Abraham Lincoln as my headmate. Totally legit. Feminism is what it does. What it does is discriminate against men and transfolks for the sole benefit of (white upper and upper middle class) ciswomen. Period.
/r/MensRights11/09/14 05:23 AM
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They are a tiny minority in office that afflicts primarily the so-called flyover states. No, what you did was parrot feminist talking points. There is nothing backwards about being anti-abortion. I happen to disagree with them but literally no one thinks abortions are "awesome". Nor do I believe that women should have a monopoly on reproductive choice - so as long as they do I will happily support the anti-abortionists. Policy wonks call this "tying the issues". As far as I'm concerned we should…
/r/MensRights11/09/14 05:20 AM
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Well if you're tired of masturbating, yelling at your screen and trolling you could always find other things to do. I suggest you brush the cheeto crumbs off your rolls first though before trying to stand up.
/r/MensRights11/09/14 04:55 AM
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That male victims do not matter. DB2 is right. Male victims in the military have always been a greater number and male victims of war rape has always been a greater number as well. However, giving two shits about men is unimportant and unworthy.
/r/MensRights11/09/14 04:42 AM
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People call themselves things all the time - transracial otherkin, headmates, whatever. Feminism is, has been and always will be a movement that preferences women and is fundamentally gynocentric in scope. Still we need more "feminists" like her - provided she doesn't privilege women unlike everyone else that wears that moniker.
/r/MensRights11/09/14 04:37 AM
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My gender? My gender isn't being addressed. Nor has it been. Terps? Fucking hilarious. There's no such thing. There's only transexclusionary feminists since only feminists hate transpeople to that extent. lol so you're either a TRPer masquerading as a feminist or a moron. Or all of the above. lol@ my circle jerk buddies. As I said before shit comes in a pretty package all the time. Just change the fact that it's shit. You could live a million times kiddo, and never get pussy the caliber of mine …
/r/MensRights11/09/14 04:33 AM
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Issues of importance to average men are not being overlooked. Your opinion is batshit insane. Please show me all the "concern" for the homeless - which is over 80 percent male. Please show me the sheerly endless concern for job safety concerns which vastly more affect men. Still crickets. No concerns facing men are being addressed in any significant manner. You've deliberately chosen the fundamentalist christians - as well as the women that voted for those fundamentalists (and I won't even touch…
/r/MensRights11/09/14 04:29 AM
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Terrible people get hit on daily. That means nothing. Ciswomen - even ugly ones - get hit on as long as they're under a certain age. Don't forget lardass that you're the one that brought in sexual attraction into this. That's nice - so do I. And? I'm really sorry those men are so incredibly willing to lower themselves to even consider going out with a loathsome bigot. Still, thanks for proving without a shadow of a doubt that feminist women are narcissists.
/r/MensRights11/09/14 03:51 AM
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Except there is literally no one concerned about the issues facing men. Furthermore stating that you have those concerns is political suicide.
/r/MensRights11/09/14 03:26 AM
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Zero.
/r/MensRights11/09/14 02:56 AM
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You're full of it. In the US men are the majority raped. Period. Spouting "accepted truths" make us look vastly more like idiots. Your "concern" is noted.
/r/MensRights11/09/14 02:55 AM
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Would you like to cite even one? Do you people never get tired of your ceaseless lying? Your downvotes merely prove my point. Keep 'em coming! Come on AMR! Negative 10! Negative 10!
/r/MensRights11/09/14 02:53 AM
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We aren't talking about anecdotes. Parent is trying to "save the good name" of feminism by being a "good MRA" i.e. one that knows his place. A woman that thinks men have issues is not a feminist.
/r/MensRights11/09/14 02:52 AM
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Good thing all women aren't self-serving pieces of shit then, eh? Who would want a mangry landwhale like yourself? You're not even a good troll.
/r/MensRights11/09/14 02:38 AM
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No, civility is not respect. Respect is earned. Common decency is also not respect.
/r/MensRights10/09/14 10:59 AM
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Bullshit. Also all feminists are not women. The number of feminists I've met willing to pay for someone else's meals is zero. Unless that feminist is a man. Then he pays for everything all the time.
/r/MensRights10/09/14 10:57 AM
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Margaret Sanger would approve.
/r/MensRights10/09/14 08:32 AM
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"That's some nice projection you've got there". "IF men don't deserve rights then no one does." "Since when is bigotry ok?"
/r/MensRights10/09/14 08:30 AM
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You mad? Would you like a towel to dab away the spittle all over your face? What's awesome is you blatantly showing your misandry. Please tell me more how blacks, jews, men get a free ride.
/r/MensRights10/09/14 07:14 AM
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Blah blah blah misdirection. Blah blah blah replace victim with offender. Blah blah blah let me try to DARVO this conversation. Blah blah blah endless lies from a liar. We've got your number. When you start holding women to the same standards as men you'll stop being a lying, hypocritical bigot - not before.
/r/MensRights10/09/14 07:09 AM
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a bunch of selfish, cheap, sexists Describes feminism to a T. seriously_trolling has you handled.
/r/MensRights10/09/14 01:57 AM
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No one should be a parent that does not want to be. If sex = procreation then ciswomen should have the same lack of choice as everyone else. There is only one side that is obscenely selfish - the side that demands one sex have all the benefits while the other all the responsibilities. Still, you're a lying troll and that's never going to change.
/r/MensRights10/09/14 01:55 AM
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Anyone that actively sets out to smear an entire movement that threatens their hegemony over gender issues and empathy is running scared. Their day in the sun is over.
/r/MensRights10/09/14 01:52 AM
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This.
/r/MensRights30/08/14 03:06 AM
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Dollars to donuts she gets 18 months. 24 tops.
/r/MensRights30/08/14 03:02 AM
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Just like the many shit bags in your gender that abandoned kids led us having to pass laws for child support; My gender isn't being discussed here. No one's gender is. Women did not "have to pass laws for child support" they didn't want to have to pay out of their own pockets like men had to previously. If women "can do it for ourselves" then they shouldn't need support. Feminism has always been about privileging women at the expense of everyone else. Paternal testing is mandatory nowhere on ear…
/r/MensRights30/08/14 01:54 AM
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Do you live in India? Because even there it is not available under that name, so regardless you are lying.
/r/MensRights30/08/14 01:50 AM
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Sounds right to me.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 12:47 PM
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What's it like to be a bigoted moron? All across the country men are fighting these kangaroo courts and winning. RAINN is against them, there's even an avowed feminist lawyer defending many of them. This is the greatest injustice of our time and is designed to make college an exclusively ciswoman space. "Victims" are disproportionately represented because actual victims are made invisible by feminists (see the long work of Mary P Koss to make male victims invisible). Affirmative action attempts …
/r/MensRights27/08/14 12:14 PM
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When both Cathy Young and Christina Hoff-Sommers openly discuss that they are having trouble seeing their feminist moniker as anything but a millstone we've long past reached the tipping point where it cannot bounce back from being a hate movement. To paraphrase someone else I conversed with on reddit - it's important to have optimism. I agree with that. However, I don't see isms as anything but a dead end, particularly one that is essentially a religion.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 12:00 PM
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The only way for a man to beat these things is for him to accuse her first. Which is what will happen. It will take hundreds of men thrown off campus innocently first.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 08:59 AM
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You don't get it - he has no right to have needs.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 08:29 AM
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Women have an inalienable right to men's affection and wealth, but owe men nothing. The common dialogue since at least the 1970s.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 08:27 AM
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I like you. I'm so effing glad to see someone that knows what it's like to live in the 'to and how everyone has to fend off abuse at times. Talking shit is a necessary part of adult survival imo. It makes me wonder if all the whiners talking about it all went to private schools, lived in gated communities and had nannies.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 07:31 AM
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We're genetically prone to it and my paternal grandfather did die of it but he'd known since he was in his sixties and he died relatively shortly before what would have been his 90th birthday. I'd say he did alright. My aunt had a meltdown about it about six years ago when she was diagnosed. Basically when it happens - you die. I've no idea how common it is but it is incurable, at least at the moment. I suspect gene therapies might do something but I'd be surprised if it happened in my lifetime.…
/r/MensRights27/08/14 07:29 AM
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http://www.northwestern.edu/newscenter/stories/2010/11/heart-disease.html Well, according to this you're correct. Mea culpa. /comes from a family with heart disease (which includes valve liquifaction) and no obesity.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 07:14 AM
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Heart disease has zero to do with anything for the vast majority of people other than genetic predisposition.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 06:07 AM
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Which will never occur outside of her own fantasies.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 04:06 AM
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It seems pretty obvious unless you're talking about the guy sexually assaulting a stop sign.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 03:59 AM
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The same thing applies. Feminists are not rational, nor can they considered to be adults.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 03:51 AM
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She's a ciswoman so she's going to still have increased empathy towards them. Literally nowhere did she talk about the inherent injustice or the cases winding themselves through the courts now.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 03:49 AM
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Well it looks like I'm going to have to start voting republican. Can't say I'm happy about that but everyone sponsoring this hateful bill should be kicked out of office and those with a legal license disbarred.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 03:48 AM
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Clearly you've never seen a divorce where the assets were commingled and the judge turned a blind eye. You live with someone - the money goes down. Stop oppressing the noncustodial parent.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 03:35 AM
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That is far from sexism. What it is, is bias towards athletics - which incidentally did Brian Banks no particular favors. There is no way to unequivocally state that is sexism. Coming to that conclusion is lazy thinking. Everyone has seen "jock bias" dating back to grade school. It is a feminist way of thinking that "badly affects a woman - must be sexism!". Even the very few feminists that cry out about "benevolent sexism" aren't actually doing anything about it and are trampled in the stampede…
/r/MensRights27/08/14 03:13 AM
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I just did. Sexism does not exist towards ciswomen except to their benefit. You can presume there's intersectionality between us and feminists - but you'd be hard pressed to prove it.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 03:06 AM
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That does seem to be how feminists consider the dominant narrative. Not that feminism and reality have much in common.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 02:24 AM
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Oh I get it - this is one of those "is it a troll or is it a moron" tests. Not that both is out of the realm of possibility.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 01:46 AM
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And as I asked - what do you think about it now that you've received the only accurate response?
/r/MensRights26/08/14 01:41 AM
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So did you learn something you didn't want to - or are you surprised at the fact that it's clear to anyone who's not a feminist that ciswomen are privileged?
/r/MensRights26/08/14 01:29 AM
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"If they didn't want a child those whores shouldn't have spread their legs". The inverse of every feminist comment on men having any right to LPS.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 01:26 AM
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Meaning he could never return since he would get hit with child support + interest. Totally fair trade amirite? That's an idiotic analogy. Nowhere does it say he wants the kid (the "spaghetti") and a pasta dish you have to pay for at least 18 years whether you want it or not - and can never return to your home country - is one hell of an expensive dish. If you don't like the situation fight for LPS and vasalgel. Until then men in this situation have no other options. You remind me of my friend t…
/r/MensRights26/08/14 01:15 AM
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I see two sides of this - the legal arguments so many people have made eloquently here as to why this is a bad idea, with the sub issue being that it will, of course, be applied unequally and that the cases against priests and others that have abused boys would be able to be tried since men usually wait much longer due to the much greater stigma. Usually these guys don't bring it up until their thirties when they realize they're not going to just get over it. Regardless men must be pressured int…
/r/MensRights26/08/14 01:09 AM
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It shouldn't be a crime at all. If more men pursued these sorts of cases they would die immediately.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 01:05 AM
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Many of those priests that got off scot-free when raping boys would be able to be tried, at least in that state.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 01:05 AM
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Nothing stops a governor from appointing a state supreme court justice from bringing in whoever they want. Also see Rose Bird.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 01:02 AM
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Sad but true.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 12:10 AM
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It is an earnings gap not a wage gap. Most of it can be explained by women doing more part-time work, being able to collect alimony/child support and exclusive welfare benefits which are not included as income.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 12:01 AM
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Which state are you in? The best thing to do in most cases is to be the first mover and file first and request full custody (they won't give it to you due to your sex but it gives you room to negotiate) as well as "temporary exclusive use of the home". Have her served at work after you've picked up the kid from daycare and had the locks changed. tl;dr - get an aggressive lawyer and file first. Get her served at work so she's the one that has to move.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 11:57 PM
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Democracy has exactly zero to do with atheism and anyone with the most minute amount of US history under their belt knows that this country has always been a Christian one.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 11:50 PM
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Oh? What, exactly, is a "real issue" facing ciswomen? Please, I cannot wait to see this.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 11:39 PM
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Tangentially I continue to see non-stop articles on comics saying that they need to be more female friendly. Yet no one has ever said the bodice rippers/romance novels that fuel these fantasies have ever needed to be more male friendly and that's a huge industry.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 11:31 PM
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I can't imagine anyone here is going to listen to that bigot for more than 5 minutes. Kimmel is a misandrist.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 10:45 PM
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Get a new SO that's less entitled.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 10:29 PM
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I disagree. Sexism doesn't occur towards ciswomen in the west, at all. Even outside Saudi Arabia (where class is still the number one issue) is a stretch. The in your face approach is working out well for us. Why change it?
/r/MensRights25/08/14 10:11 PM
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Keep telling yourself that.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 09:38 PM
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Literally no one wants "entice the feminist movement" to take us seriously. They already do. They see us as a threat - a threat to their narrative and to their hegemony of social spending and of empathy. God forbid men be treated like people. Given that self-identified feminists are coming to address our issues every day - and that people like Hoff-Sommers and Cathy Young make many of our arguments for us I fail to see an issue. Feminism is the problem whereas traditionalism is a problem.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 09:37 PM
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There is a limited amount of money and of empathy. They want to ensure neither goes to boys and men.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 12:39 PM
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Given that sb967 looks to pass and this governor will more than likely sign it, it will takes years of case law to establish anything. What needs to happen is a constitutional challenge on parts of Title IX.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 10:59 AM
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Yeah, I'm a leftie and no one wants to talk about this fact. Nor does anyone want to talk about the fact that this president is the worst in history over privacy issues and is merely the prelude to the completely Orwellian outcome if Hilary is elected.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 10:58 AM
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I apologize in advance but that response really makes it sound like you're a prude. This would be the only way to exonerate oneself. There are already, as mentioned upthread, revenge porn laws on the book. Frankly if you don't want to be caught having sex, don't have it at all.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 10:52 AM
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It is impossible to get vasalgel in this country and apparently anywhere in the west. I hope you contributed to the fund to bring it here since you want to continually talk shit about something that we're decades away from being readily available. Not to mention you can guarantee feminists will intercede in order to keep it from being funded via Obamacare.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 10:28 AM
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As long as bigots like you control the message there is no reason for any man to support women's reproductive rights.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 10:24 AM
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That's just not how the law works regardless of the fact it would lead to a better outcome for everyone.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 10:22 AM
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Literally the only (semi-) sane post you've made on this entire article.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 10:20 AM
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TIL all women are honest and never lie in a relationship. Your amusing revisionist history about feminism is abundantly fact free.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 10:19 AM
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Clearly that raising you right has worked out swimmingly.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 10:04 AM
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You first. Also - stop giving blasphemy a bad name. Feminists are morons, not blasphemers.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 09:57 AM
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Show me anywhere in the world a woman needs a man's consent to have an abortion outside perhaps Saudi Arabia. This isn't courtesy, this is bending over backwards to make excuses for her and have him pay the bill. The fact that my post was downvoted shows just how tied into gynocentrism so many of you still are. Edited to add: Gotta love the organic voting and preference for female supremacy in all things yet no one can assail my comment that women never have to consult their SOs. Feels not reals…
/r/MensRights25/08/14 09:48 AM
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Barring him from ever returning? Is there no end to the amount of damseling people will do for women? Fuck that. His genetic material - his decision.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 01:11 AM
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What's it like to be retarded?
/r/MensRights24/08/14 01:09 AM
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Thank you.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 01:07 AM
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Hi, do you mind copypasting that or sending me a pm with the info? I'd love to see it. THanks in advance!
/r/MensRights23/08/14 01:44 AM
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To be fair I couldn't follow that without a flow chart either.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 11:07 PM
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In some states you just have to have been providing financial support for some arbitrary amount of time. No need to be on the birth certificate.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 11:01 PM
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"Are you a fucking cripple? Were you working in a mine all day? Or doing construction work? No? Then shut the fuck up and and act like a grown up."
/r/MensRights22/08/14 08:06 PM
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Most do thrive on the princessing and the privileging.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 08:03 PM
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None of the people you mentioned targeted a particular sex. Most of those people are folk heroes due to being perceived as for the common man. Part of why Capone was appreciated was because he was outspoken and fought against the evils of Prohibition (which came about due to feminists and their pals and ongoing frenemies fundamentalist christians). Edited to add: as said in the article - can you imagine if it was for Paul Bernardo? Anyone that exclusively murdered women? Everyone must be treated…
/r/MensRights22/08/14 07:55 PM
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Women aren't asking for all of those things to be completely free. Actually, if you've read the articles and the whole sjw folderol, they are. Not to mention the fact that no male birth control is covered at all and that mens premiums have to go up in order to better serve their betters - women. Anyone that follows Emily's List or believes the sex of the person in office matters is a bigot full stop.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 07:45 PM
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I'm not buying this sjw version of events. That's not to say that municipalities don't boost themselves financially by going overboard by installing red light cameras and putting as many cops as humanly possible on traffic duty in order to fill the city's coffers. Not to mention parking meters and the intention to defraud the people that shop at many cities. However, without a deeper dive and some actual in-depth reportage this is some "I just pulled this out of my ass" editorializing.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 12:23 PM
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You seem to be under the impression that they are genuine, decent people that mean what they say. That's as far from the case as is humanly possible. It is a hate movement made up of disingenuous scumbags.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 11:41 AM
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TIL not being a bigot is laughable.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 11:27 AM
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Nice misdirection. Now go fuck yourself.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 11:26 AM
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No male birth control is covered.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 11:20 AM
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Unrepentant bigotry and female privilege. Feminism in a nutshell.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 11:20 AM
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Thanks, I missed that.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 04:08 AM
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Can someone school me as to why this is men's rights? I'm not saying it isn't but it's not immediately clear to me why it would be.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 03:36 AM
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Fair enough. And I cannot disagree regarding optimism.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 03:28 AM
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It's an admirable goal but as an injustice towards men is concerned I think it's pretty low on the totem pole. You're talking about potential vs. what's already existing and deliberately being obtuse about how things are. If you think you can co-opt "equality" with actual equality more power to you. That's an interesting tactic even if I think it ultimately won't work.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 11:36 PM
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Somehow I doubt it with all these SJWs actively covering each others asses. Her ex is probably finished in games development. I'd love there to be a wholesale purge of these people.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 08:32 PM
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Except that exception would never be made for a man, in that state or any other. We all know that judges in family court face no checks and balances and that they are almost never overturned on appeal and no matter how egregious or capricious their judgement there will be nothing done about it. If you're not aware I suggest watching Divorce Corp. States will do anything to keep from forking out money. The entire family court system is designed to keep men in harness so that states won't have to …
/r/MensRights19/08/14 07:16 PM
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I feel obligated to make one more comment. I don't believe that even one in a hundred of these cases is real. No case not brought before the police and DA should be considered anything other than trumped up because they have nothing whatsoever to lose should it have been an actual case. Nor should universities be trying cases. It isn't their job and there are no checks and balances. Furthermore we've gone from the presumption of innocence to the presumption of guilt - for one sex and one sex onl…
/r/MensRights19/08/14 11:59 AM
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The UC system is huge. It may not be hundreds the first year but give it time. Most men aren't assaulting women - but then these moves were never intended to do anything but to punish. There was never an intent for good. Rape is nowhere near an all-time high with it having dropped 85 percent just in my lifetime. You also forget all the Meg Lanker-Simonses out there. There will be tons of feminist students, teachers and counselors ensuring that as many men as they can kick out will be a badge of …
/r/MensRights19/08/14 11:44 AM
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It's up to us and decent people everywhere to shame feminists and other gynocentrists. Every single class year will have heard stories of dozens to hundreds of men in the class before them being suspended or expelled on no evidence with no appeal process. That's bound to rustle a whole lot of jimmies - and will annihilate the out of country students which is the UC system's bread and butter as well as every rich family who will absolutely either send their kid out of state or decide to take a st…
/r/MensRights19/08/14 11:18 AM
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You don't get it. Whether you realize it or not any advocacy of single sex spaces will only allow females unless the males are all gay. I'm not advocating against single sex spaces - that's merely reality.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 11:14 AM
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No they won't because even the writers of the bill have no idea how to prove affirmative consent. Every non-gay cismale is automatically guilty of rape if they've been with a ciswoman alone anywhere on or off campus. Because at some point there is always a tipping point. When even feminist lawyers are pitching in and RAINN is against it and nearly all of these cases get thrown out people will start losing their religion. Already false rape accusations like those of Brian Banks are getting more m…
/r/MensRights19/08/14 10:41 AM
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I would so give you gold if I could afford it for this post.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 09:56 AM
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Thanks for owning that. One of my favorite things about this sub is seeing people own their shit. Off-topic but it makes me glad.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 09:48 AM
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most people who agree with basic feminist ideologies really aren't the kind of people that would be okay with sitting back and leeching Requires citations.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 09:44 AM
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I'm torn. We could fight the hell out of this - and I do think we should- but it passing should bring feminism to its knees and sweep sjws permanently out of power in 5 years or less should it pass.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 09:39 AM
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But that would mean helping men.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 09:36 AM
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Because in any case where it was men it would be banned or outlawed even if there was no law on the books extant at the time. /Feminists and SJWs might make an exception for transmen giving them the pussy pass since they don't see them as real men anyway.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 09:33 AM
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You're a terrible troll. Neither funny nor rage inducing.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 09:22 AM
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No but like any other white knight or sjw bigot ciswomen always have to have it worse.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 09:21 AM
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I watched this via SRSs and I couldn't help but think where are the alternatives? Why don't we boycott the sites that support this corruption and spew sjw hate everyday? If there is no alternatives ones must be made up. This goes along with all media. These people should be unhireable anywhere.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 09:19 AM
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Not to pat myself on the back but it is the best advice. You lose the house otherwise and when you lose the house you lose the kids. She wins the grand slam even without filing a TRO that "she's afraid" or "he's abusive". When given the chance every woman I'm aware of - with one notable exception - has pulled that trick on their ex-husbands. Also, if he can obtain a TRO and show the bruises he can keep her away from him for the inevitable backlash. Furthermore the moving party has the home field…
/r/MensRights19/08/14 06:09 AM
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How the fuck these fascists on the left (note - I am a socialist) feels they're any better than the fascists on the right is beyond me. Thankfully we've got organs such as Alternet, The Atlantic, HuffPo, ad nauseum to tell us heathens how to think.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 04:26 AM
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You can tell a mob to disperse or go to jail. The only appropriate response.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 04:06 AM
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12.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 03:54 AM
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The police and a lawyer. Have her served with divorce papers when she's at work and change the locks.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 03:51 AM
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It is, to my mind, a completely (and intentionally) disingenuous take on a culture war. Intentionally made in blend in with the hysteria and propaganda about a "rape culture" where rape has diminished 85 percent in my lifetime. Another thing is that women are just as involved in the so-called war on women as anyone else is. There are tons of conservative and christian women in this country. Being pro-life/anti-abortion is not a gendered response.The entire methodology is reinforce the ludicrous …
/r/MensRights18/08/14 11:56 PM
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It's really not a debate. Those people are fundamentally uninterested in anything but their circle jerk. This post will bring more people to the cause - if a response with a full list will bring additional folks to the cause or not is up for debate. tl;dr - facts are of no importance to bigots.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 09:52 PM
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There's always room for a lazy token.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 09:49 PM
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To be fair - theirs is an ideology and one with cult-like qualities, ours is not.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 09:46 PM
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The funny thing is that many of the people that scoff at the war on christmas actually believe there is a war on women. Certainly being exclusively served in education and with well over 80 percent of social spending and an entire industry behind them they are losing hard. Both are fictional.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 09:43 PM
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In the case of feminists - who see it as a zero-sum game (and considering that they have the monopoly on gender-based spending worldwide they're not wrong - they have everything to lose) it is absolutely true. They will grasp hard to the empathy gap for as long as humanly possible. Women are not worse off than men. Focus on the human rights of everyone and quit gendering wrong-doing and feeding the bias and lack of empathy. Feminism has never been a positive. They do not want a unified front - t…
/r/MensRights18/08/14 09:40 PM
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Misogyny isn't real. Certainly not in the context that feminists use to claim misandry isn't real. Because it has to find it not real in order to deliberately blind themselves to the pervasiveness of it. Not to mention the fact that feminism and feminists are largely to blame for it. Can you spell? At all? That makes you at best a useful idiot. And one that apparently conflates consistency with being contradictory.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 11:27 AM
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I have never seen a post you've made that wasn't sheer projection. Right back at you sister. Glad to know that you can't argue your positions. But then, why would you need to when you live in an echo chamber?
/r/MensRights18/08/14 11:12 AM
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Women are not "encouraged" to take safer jobs - they choose them. Are we now claiming as the feminists do that women are exclusively idiots and automatons? Behaviorism has been debunked and has been out of vogue for several decades now. There is no benefit to feminists deconstructing gender roles that don't exclusively benefit women. So this is not something that is going to change. They want to be special princesses on a pedestal at the same time they want "equality". I'm not sure what else the…
/r/MensRights18/08/14 10:31 AM
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you're likely an entitled self-centred asshole. Mmm that projection. Delicious. Describes nearly every feminist I've met to a T. Those that aren't don't agree with where feminism is now - they have a quaint attachment to the lie that it has ever been an inclusive movement for actual equality. Misogyny doesn't exist. Clearly feminists are fighting hard to get women into the sewers and all the other difficult, dirty jobs men do every day. So yes, both sexes need each other and not merely for procr…
/r/MensRights18/08/14 10:19 AM
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No, you misunderstand. I get it. We get it. This is you doing your best to create false equivalencies in order to support your bigoted movement. No more, no less.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 09:44 AM
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From Margaret Sanger to the White Feather campaign to Prohibition to the Political Correctness campaigns to the claims of an invisible patriarchy that somehow bestows all the benefits to women and yet concurrently "discriminates" against them they have always been about control. People cannot be allowed to think for themselves or if they aren't ciswomen (edited to add - and in particular white upper and middle class ciswomen at that), act in their own best interests.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 09:37 AM
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There is no wage gap. There is an earnings gap. This is due to the fact that more women can collect welfare - and more of it - and have vastly more social spending and NGOs as well as eternal alimony and no social stigma for being stay at home moms. Women choose to be in more part-time work because they have those privileges. Women refuse to work in construction and the trades. That's not going to change in any significant amounts. All their work is in order to justify their hatred of men and en…
/r/MensRights18/08/14 09:33 AM
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No one could be that stupid and naive. Please explain male and transgender feminists. Never underestimate humanity's addiction to stupidity, the only resource of which there is no finite amount.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 09:12 AM
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As is your completely unwarranted superiority complex and ideological fervency. Of course you'd never admit to hating men. That would be honest - something that no modern day feminist could possibly be. I did, however, enjoy your misdirection. Bravo. And on this: Women don't need a man. Certainly if you're a lesbian separatist on an island where women are doing all the heavy labor men would ordinarily be doing. Of course an ideologue would see it as true - failing to realize that humans are inhe…
/r/MensRights18/08/14 07:13 AM
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In before AMR claim of MR supporting doxxing.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 07:09 AM
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I give this troll 1/10. One note and amusing but too over the top to be offensive.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 07:07 AM
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I think it's helpful to keep in mind that everything they believe about both men and the MHRM is projection.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 07:05 AM
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No. What I'm saying is that misogyny doesn't actually exist outside of the imagination of feminists and that it is obviously clear to anyone not inculcated in the cult of feminism that it is a hate movement made up of those that do hate men. It's not a joke. No one is laughing. If you are it is the same as laughing at a dog being kicked. But seeing as there's a pronounced empathy gap and no one gives two shits about men it's acceptable. Just as acceptable as the "boys are stupid throw rocks at t…
/r/MensRights18/08/14 06:56 AM
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Amazing and succinct post. Thank you.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 06:50 AM
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I don't understand why people are so quick to claim the feminism has ever been good. It takes a hell of a lot of whitewashing to come to that conclusion. The second wave was already generally anti-male, not content to be merely racist and classist as it had always been before.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 06:45 AM
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Gish gallop speakingofresearch.com/2012/09/11/gish-gallop/ http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_gallop
/r/MensRights18/08/14 06:13 AM
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They aren't mutually exclusive and since feminism is antithetical to equality being antifeminist is not only intrinsic to our cause but necessary imo.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 06:06 AM
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What's interesting to me is that it is, by definition, an unenforceable contract and in any other realm would be considered null and void.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 05:53 AM
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So a man that was going to have to hit the road in order to pay the bills - or do an endless stream of indie films - is "less rich"? The courts often don't care what your situation is - and if a settlement has been made its often not amendable. Family courts break men every single day. This is absolutely the kind of thing we should be bringing up. Edited to add: The fact that men disproportionately kill themselves more often is an issue of ours, as is the fact that there is no support network fo…
/r/MensRights18/08/14 05:52 AM
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This. Imagining them as the sadistic guards at a concentration camp explains their behavior to a T.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 05:47 AM
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Is evil the result of mental illness? If you believe that it is then I guess you have your answer.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 05:43 AM
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Except it's utterly clear to everyone who is not a feminist that it is a hate-filled movement made up of those who hate men. You want to stay associated with your cult then go ahead. The fact that it and its membership consistently work against the interests of men and transfolks is undeniable.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 05:17 AM
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To be fair misogyny as its used by feminists doesn't exist.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 05:14 AM
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Where men still typically have it as bad or worse in all of those nations. It's the feminist brainwashing that makes it seem as if feminism has a place anywhere.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 05:08 AM
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Thank you.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 05:05 AM
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They do otherwise they wouldn't feel the need to justify it with "irony". Being against someone else's rights - and continuing to privilege yourself at someone else's expense all the while - takes an incredible amount of self-justification. Ergo all the false equivalencies, lies and propaganda.
/r/MensRights17/08/14 12:14 PM
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It's merely that the concept that men can even have feelings - and that even considering empathy towards males is hilarious at its core for feminists.
/r/MensRights17/08/14 12:05 PM
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We actively work to subvert an unfair system that reinforces a gender binary and uses it to repress and control people. An unfair system that benefits women at the expense of men and transfolks. You certainly work hard to reinforce those gender roles when it comes to men. That's the kind of stuff we're focused on, not shaming or repressing men. I take it you have zero awareness of the history of feminism. Furthermore the entire concept of "the patriarchy" is not only patently ridiculous on its f…
/r/MensRights17/08/14 10:59 AM
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This requires a flip of the genders.
/r/MensRights31/07/14 12:01 AM
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I make of it that they would do literally anything to avoid addressing any men's issues until no ciswoman ever is inconvenienced.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 11:49 PM
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Why are women that do this not prosecuted for attempted murder?
/r/MensRights30/07/14 11:46 PM
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Being an MRA isn't being a part of an ideology - particularly one with cult/religious overtones.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 09:45 PM
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She has been asked why she still considers herself a feminist and her answers have been less than illuminating. As I said - I like and respect her, especially her willingness to stand up against the tide, but I stand behind my stance that any woman choosing to identify with it is still giving a preference to women. The difference in CHF being that she realized it had obviously become nothing more than a supremacy movement long before anyone else was willing to acknowledge that fact. She's no dum…
/r/MensRights30/07/14 09:17 PM
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I like and respect CHF but let's be honest - all women who are feminists are exhibiting a preference for their own sex for whatever reason. Also most feminists do not consider her to be one of them.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 08:57 PM
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Sadly for her children she's a bigot.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 08:54 PM
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any woman who does this just looks incredibly sad and pathetic, with an inferiority complex. Completely applicable to any woman describing herself as a feminist.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 08:48 PM
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Feminism has always been a hate movement. Engaging with bigots is fine if you have to do so in your personal life but feminists on the internet are a waste of time imo. Feminism deserves that hostility.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 08:43 PM
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Can confirm.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 08:39 PM
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That seems to be a whole lot of contortions to put feminists in a positive light.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 08:38 PM
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They just hate happiness and harmony. Only discord between the sexes to fuel their revenge-based agenda is ok. Clearly she's being abused. Clearly.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 08:10 PM
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I don't think they had any intention of educating themselves and are all too happy to go along with the intentional smear jobs whether they do so with that intention or not. Because men don't need rights obviously.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 08:04 PM
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If you need to cite Feinstein, let alone Jezebel, you're not only morally bankrupt but a complete moron. The bright side for me of this post is in learning about donotlink.com - something I'd no idea existed.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 09:30 AM
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a fucking miracle. What's next? The Guardian treating men like human beings?
/r/MensRights30/07/14 08:34 AM
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Anything that privileges women is "cool". Add in the apparently genetic predisposition of both sexes to like women better and you have the current shit sandwich we're all eating.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 07:10 AM
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Your comment has no credibility. Feminism is what it does, not what individuals self-identifying as feminists claim it to be. That culture is made up of women as well who have just as much impact as men. Feminism itself reinforces traditional gender roles and is commingled with chivalry. Feminism has always been an exclusionary hate movement and belief system.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 01:10 AM
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Everyone goes through some shit. Women are in no way special in that regard.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 01:07 AM
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There's an entire cadre of feminists on wikipedia to ensure that only the feminist position on anything is expressed. It is about as far from being unbiased as it gets.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 01:06 AM
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So nothing. I wonder what burning bush it takes a bigot to see the errors of their ways. You people are no different from George Wallace before he was shot.
/r/MensRights29/07/14 11:20 PM
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As long as they're in your house, it's your rules. Ergo why I moved out of my parents house as soon as I could.
/r/MensRights29/07/14 10:56 PM
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That's not evidence. At all. And you use this as an excuse for your bad behavior and bigotry as all feminists do. Show me how these presidents have consistently worked in men's and only men's best interests. Seriously, how the fuck does anyone over single digits come to the conclusion that with over 80 percent of the social spending and over 60 percent of college students is being "discriminated against". Male genital mutilation is a-ok yet for females is unacceptable and male mass rapes are con…
/r/MensRights29/07/14 10:50 PM
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Shhh! You're challenging the rhetoric! People with lived experiences have nothing to say to any of us! Only feminists can have an opinion.
/r/MensRights29/07/14 10:39 PM
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Because Piltdown man was real? lol Clearly the fact that opinions in soft sciences can change dramatically in under 30 years as well as any number of opinions about physics has changed numerous times shows that academia, in and of itself, is not something you can stand behind. Particularly in soft sciences. What's funny is that you advocate for the existence of a myth that says there's a movement that all men belong to that exists for their sole benefit to disenfranchise women. Yet only the rich…
/r/MensRights20/06/14 08:19 PM
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Put it in the hallway with a hall monitor in each dorm. Mandatory checking for everyone. Also Chastity Police.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 08:10 PM
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That was a great job of misdirection. Truly you are a great magician. If it existed and if it were actually by men for their sole benefit it should be easily proven and provable. Still no different. Academic institutions have held to any number of disproven crackpot theories and given those academic institutions are currently engaged in a witchhunt against college age men I don't really see they're something to stand behind. Spin again.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 07:58 PM
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Don't like it then don't act like one. Kindly explain, in detail, how this mythical patriarchy isn't like the Worldwide Jewish Conspiracy. Both are unprovable, patently ludicrous, bigoted myths designed to other people by people that have no morals.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 07:22 PM
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AMRsucks for people who are against people who are against the Worldwide Jewish Conspiracy. Don't forget your party armband liebling.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 07:17 PM
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Bailey's part of the autogynephilia crowd. Most famous feminist and trans antagonist Janice Raymond has been using that prop for years as well as more recent bigot Cathy Brennan. Dr. Moser is one of the people who debunked it showing that ciswomen have autogynephilia. What you're talking about basically falls under the Standards of Care which generally require at least a year of counseling and 2 years of living as your targeted sex full time (this is based on my recollection of an older version …
/r/MensRights20/06/14 06:54 PM
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The support amount needs adjusting. An attorney would be best if you all can afford it. If not there may be a legal aid office in your county that can assist you with forms. Make sure to bring copies of what she sells on Facebook and see if she has an Etsy. With Etsy it tracks what's been sold, at least in some cases. Besides, they'd have to respond to subpoenas if it gets that far. The court should impute a certain amount of income due to her sales. There's sometimes lawyer in the library progr…
/r/MensRights20/06/14 10:42 AM
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How much do you want to bet she won't even have to have supervised visits and just slides back into her "parental" role?
/r/MensRights20/06/14 09:19 AM
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A child starts dating when their parents say they start dating. What a child does when living under your roof - not just when they're at home - is up to you as a parent. Considering how many terrible parents I see out there all too happy to farm out their responsibilities it's an important point.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 08:51 AM
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If she makes the rules then she's out of the house. Any parent that lets their children set the agenda - at any age - is no parent.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 04:43 AM
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Soraya Chemaly is a feminist dishonest piece of shit. Yes I am aware that's saying the same thing twice. Also this is from 2012.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 04:36 AM
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Partner could mean anything and is likely deliberately kept vague. Although it is entirely possible he's a cowboy.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 04:24 AM
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Then you don't know the brouhaha over autogynephilia and all the attendant reasons to other transwomen - and just transwomen. This is from 2007 and all it does is ally us with people like Cathy Brennan. Feminists have pushed this angle for years that transwomen are not women. This isn't men's rights nor does it qualify as anti-feminist because feminists uphold this bullshit and have always claimed this was men trying to take over feminism and its issues.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 02:41 AM
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I partially agree. The problem is that feminism treats transfolks with a great deal of disrespect and in many cases like men; traditionalism as well. I very much expect transfolks and those in gay marriages to be the next men in family courts. Edited to add an "and".
/r/MensRights20/06/14 02:01 AM
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This is the kind of thing that lgbt advocates nailed Janice Raymond and a host of transexclusionary feminists for as well as researchers whose work has been debunked. It has been shown that women have autogynephilia as well. I fail to see how any of this is men's rights.This is anti-trans propaganda and we should take no part in it. If we do we risk looking exactly like the bigots on the other team.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 01:50 AM
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It's up to us to bring about this eventuality. If feminists claim they want equality for women then they need to have the same responsibilities as well.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 12:55 AM
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I continue to wonder why you're in this sub. Sure, but we usually advocate for rape hysteria by taking the side of people that say women should be wearing special clothes and have special training because of rape and arguing against people that don't want women to be taught to constantly be on rape alert. Who's we? It behooves everyone to take self-defense classes. If there was this huge problem with rape, as their side says there is, the only rational response is to train people otherwise - and…
/r/MensRights20/06/14 12:19 AM
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Only if you're cherry picking: In fact, half of all women getting abortions report that contraception was used during the month they became pregnant.1 Some of these couples had used the method improperly; some had forgotten or neglected to use it on the particular occasion they conceived; and some had used a contraceptive that failed. No contraceptive method prevents pregnancy 100% of the time. If abortion were used as a primary method of birth control, a typical woman would have at least two or…
/r/MensRights20/06/14 12:00 AM
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It is used that way all the time. Your article does not show otherwise.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 11:01 PM
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You want the child - you pay for it - all by yourself. You can't afford it and want to bring it to term there are ample ways of dealing with that as well. If you want the right to bring a child into this world then you have the responsibility to pay for it yourself.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 10:58 PM
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lmao Make it happen! There's gotta be nothing more sexy to a potential sex partner, whether it's a guy or a gal, than seeing John Wayne's face staring at them. Edited to add: Needs to be a Reagan edition as well.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 09:54 PM
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As long as the ad says "Liberty Cage - FOR FREEDOM" you've got my vote. You can have one that's red white and blue for the traditionalist set.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 09:49 PM
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This is not only an MHRA issue, it's a Father's rights issue as well, and an lgbt issue. All of which are, and should be, men's rights issues.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 09:24 PM
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Rape hysteria and its fallout, which entirely falls upon men as victims of it, is undoubtedly a men's rights issue.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 09:19 PM
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In my defense I've been trying to get this piece of human garbage to admit that she's no attorney. At no point has she ever been honest, direct, or in earnest.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 07:49 AM
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She will still fuck the guy and it will go to appeal. He'll win eventually but the kid may not survive the experience. :(
/r/MensRights19/06/14 07:39 AM
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Looking forward to the fascists at AMR doing a smear job on this piece.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 07:37 AM
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And unless things change dramatically - which means a lot more activism at a minimum - it never will.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 07:35 AM
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I think they should actually. Enthusiastic consent means opening enough locks that you'd see securing an apartment door in NYC.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 06:22 AM
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I apologize, both because I'm just seeing this now and because I've not bookmarked any infographics. I wish you luck. I know that in the last week or two an infographic was posted in MR about the realities of male privilege. There's this image at the top of this page. http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/27yxkq/is_this_what_they_mean_by_male_privilege/ Sorry I can't be more help.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 06:11 AM
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Dear Manhood101 moron- We don't know the reasoning behind these deletions. Some are because accounts get banned, others due to the posters removing them. If you've got a problem talk to sillymod. Your false flag ops sicken me.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 04:57 AM
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I just want to lay this here: A shit ton of feminists have feted Aileen Wuornos - who was in their mind, doing their work for them. She actually is a feminist hero as is Valerie Solanas. Compare that to Rodger who literally no one has held up as a hero and who feminism has - in its usual dishonest and disingenuous way - held up as an MHRA. It's time to hold them accountable for their beliefs and the incontrovertible fact that theirs is a hate movement.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 05:32 AM
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Because until women are 100% of everything positive and 0 % of everything negative there is no equality.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 05:26 AM
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The thing I find most repugnant is that feminists generally treat transmen as honorary women - as well as treating transwomen as easily dumped allies of convenience who they will all too happily stab in the back at the first opportunity. Well said.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 03:56 AM
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Ever notice how much organic voting occurs when Karissa36 posts?
/r/MensRights18/06/14 12:16 AM
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The love/hate relationship that feminism has with gay men is mindboggling to me. Co-opt gay male oppression - good. Be "girlfriends" with each other - good. Use gay men as emotional safety-blanket - good. Gay men having their own spaces - bad. Anything not constantly revolving around the wishes of upper and middle class white women? Unacceptable!
/r/MensRights18/06/14 12:02 AM
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You do the same. :)
/r/MensRights17/06/14 11:53 PM
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I disagree. They're just angry that the whole world doesn't agree with them. I've talked about why I disagree in more detail in my response to RemeN.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 11:50 PM
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Well the same could be said "is an MRA mod capable of even-handedness on reddit" One could honestly only say that if MHRA mods were as ban happy and silencing as feminist ones. All the feminist subs are like that. I'm not talking about feminist mods anywhere else. I'm talking about on reddit where there's a pre-existing culture of silencing the opposition and unfair and unsportsmanlike conduct. Having seen mods there make rules, after the fact, and them making them retroactive in order to a) sup…
/r/MensRights17/06/14 11:46 PM
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The better question to ask is "is a feminist mod capable of even-handedness on reddit". The answer to that question, in every case I'm aware of, is no. Your point about "emulating them" is a straw man. If you could show where I have ever advocated selective enforcement or special treatment for MHRAs in any sub you might have a point.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 11:12 PM
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Sure, and maybe she had the ticket to the Irish sweepstakes too. The answer to every crime is - who benefits. I'd love to see you tie yourself into a pretzel supporting a man - ever.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 10:36 PM
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I think it's fairly ignorant to act as if feminist mods act the same as non-feminist mods. Anyone spending time on reddit for longer than a day should have noticed this.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 10:34 PM
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If there is it couldn't be beneficial. The actual wording should have been judges with daughters more likely to disproportionately privilege women since that appears to be the outcome across the country.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 09:19 PM
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Solidarity is for white women was real thing by black women - Mikki Kendal. Just as black women founded womanism due to the fact that feminism has always been an exclusionary movement for upper and middle class white women. See also white women's tears. https://storify.com/niche/solidarity-is-for-white-women Black women face the exact same underhanded tactics as men do.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 09:10 PM
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Their argument is that it is objectification and that it only happens to women and that only men do it.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 08:48 PM
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Quite.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 08:46 PM
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Any place that invites AMRats and will create rules to be enforced selectively or has mods that are feminists is a failure.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 08:43 PM
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Out of the 5 years she was sentenced to. Ergo, why reverse the sexes is appropriate.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 08:36 PM
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Right, she covered it up for no reason. Of course. Look, we know you have a tremendous chip on your shoulder about men but you should at least be honest with yourself and others about it.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 08:34 PM
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That's about as untrue as can be - MHRAs care about issues of body integrity and paternity-related issues. However, there are pro-life and pro-choice MHRAs. That doesn't show apathy, just not necessarily agreement. However, it's not our movement to make sure that feminists get what they want whenever they want particularly since they want to do it at men's expense (although for how long when it's entirely possible for a transwoman to knock up a transman - that should prove to be instructive as t…
/r/MensRights17/06/14 06:23 AM
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Yeah, it does seem like OP might be jumping the gun a bit.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 04:24 AM
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1) You have no idea who I am and how I identify. All you're doing is showing how much of a bigot you are. 2) We as in MHRAs on this sub. 3) I appreciate your consistent disingenuousness. It makes you all the more easy to dismiss.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 04:22 AM
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How many articles about catcalling, about "men feeling entitled to women's bodies" that don't contain a shred of evidence, of virgin shaming anyone they disagree with, you go girl stories of female sexuality contrasted by disgust over anything men find attractive, any article about "fat-shaming" that doesn't call women out about short-shaming or poverty-shaming ad nauseum. You people are incapable of honesty.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 04:12 AM
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I thought you weren't going to respond any more? I've never known a feminist to tell the truth but I was hoping for a refreshing change of pace for once. If they were so bullshit you would have dissected them by now o mighty lawyer. You made assertions all over the page - long, long before I came in to ask you to show your work. "Women are supposed to accomodate you." No sorry, that's what your team expects of the opposite sex. We expect you to merely show your work. When people call bullshit an…
/r/MensRights17/06/14 04:08 AM
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It's probably used but the fact remains that there's no moral high ground to be won from these kinds of actions. IF you care about the earth you don't set unneeded fires, particularly when it isn't to keep you warm or cook your food. However, there is no morality in feminism so this is what I expect from its membership. Edited: At 3.95 it's definitely used.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 03:35 AM
1

It is. Especially when a so-called expert and professional acts in a most unprofessional manner.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 03:14 AM
1

Says the person that has only used assertions all the way through and says we should just believe her because reasons.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 03:13 AM
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That's cool. I'm slowly bookmarking these kinds of things for when I get back up on my feet. Much obliged.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 01:33 AM
1

Me: Dear lawyer and professed legal expert - kindly cite your never-ending suppositions with some facts, since you as an expert should be able to access them easily if you are what you say you are. You: No U. Your comments about living off of child support was a ludicrous straw man. Demanding that you show your work when claiming that you don't have to have housing and food capable of supporting your children before getting custody is not. Fitness as a parent includes having a place to live suit…
/r/MensRights17/06/14 01:30 AM
1

Your reading comprehension needs work. Please re-read the thread. Everyone that disagrees with you is not me. You have nothing but your own bigotry.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 01:18 AM
23

Showing exactly why I've never taken umbrage at feminists being called feminazis.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 12:15 AM
1

I think you're better off finding a graphic that shows how feminism hurts men instead and showing that their movement is nothing but lies just like the comic.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 12:06 AM
2

I didn't even know ISNAF existed. Thanks for the link.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 12:01 AM
2

They can always use more. If anything this movement needs more lawyer advocates.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 12:00 AM
1

That refutes nothing I said and is a broad overview that cites no specific state's laws. If you can show me where a homeless person was given custody you'd have a point. A homeless person is not going to get custody over the parent that has a home unless that court is completely out of whack because in no way is that in the best interests of the child.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 11:54 PM
1

I asked, you ducked. Again: Do you have some statistics to support that? What's the breakdown between the sexes?
/r/MensRights16/06/14 11:42 PM
1

Excuse me - perhaps you should way up thread - where you made your comments making those assertions - far before I even entered the conversation. Right here: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/28733y/the_100_unaccountability_of_child_support/ci8afep You're a "lawyer", and therefore the expert, I expect you to not only cite your assertions but do so easily. Your behavior merely indicates that you are nothing you've claimed to be and that you prefer to be mired in your own bigotry - as mu…
/r/MensRights16/06/14 11:34 PM
1

Allow me to translate: Yes, everything you said is true but since I can't counter that let me draw your attention to another argument that isn't relevant in order for me to hold onto my beliefs that women are better. Edited to add: Of course the side without the attorney always does so much better than the side that does, right?
/r/MensRights16/06/14 11:06 PM
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Do you have some statistics to support that? What's the breakdown between the sexes? My experiences with CPS support Commenter4's. CPS has never wanted to hear when it's a woman at fault anywhere in the state where I've worked.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:56 PM
2

You mean like you just did? It's not my job to prove your points for you. You made the assertions, you back them up.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:46 PM
1

Allow me to translate: most fathers are dissuaded from it and most family court services counselors are openly hostile to the idea. Most men cannot afford attorneys and frequently have to pay for their wife's regardless. Add to that the fact that women are able to get gratis legal help in most counties thanks to a wide variety of NGOs and men are not and therefore end up relying on what their wives's counsel tells them. It's easy to paint a picture when you refuse to acknowledge the entirety of …
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:39 PM
2

I ask you to show your work and you tell me to believe you. Good luck convincing anyone with that argumentation style.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:33 PM
0

Then that can be used at trial and adjudicated as such. No one is taking insanity off the table but it must be proven. Insanity defenses fail the vast majority of the time and rightly so.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:27 PM
2

CA hates men more than any other state.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:54 PM
1

Which proves definitively that the father should have had sole custody. However, we know that courts are against that.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:44 PM
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The point was that neither was the case. There was no abuse either. This was a cold blooded murder. Nor do I think that even if you're battered you should get a get out of jail free card. This should be wiped from the books entirely. If you cannot claim insanity at the same level as any other murder then you do the time or get your injections like everyone else.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:39 PM
3

Which days can be set as to skyping as well as caveats. Her getting in trouble isn't something she's concerned about - the type of person that will pull this kind of thing will do their best to weasel out of anything else on paper as well. You have to make these things water-tight.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 08:49 PM
1

That's not really my thing, if I can possibly avoid it.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 08:39 PM
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Sometimes humor doesn't transfer well via text. I agree with you 110% Besides you made me laugh with the "it made sense when I was really high" comment. :)
/r/MensRights16/06/14 08:37 PM
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Your assertions are legally incorrect. Based upon? Kindly show me how that's true. In every jurisdiction I'm aware of child support is only to go to caring for the child. Period. A homeless person in court is not going to get their child. If there is a specific jurisdiction that states otherwise kindly show your work. CA is not one of them. I'm sorry you're unaware of how commingled assets works but you don't know what you're talking about. Apparently you're unaware of "temporary exclusive use o…
/r/MensRights16/06/14 08:35 PM
1

Which would still be putting women on a pedestal. Just because Karen is egalitarian doesn't mean that any other woman of her intelligence would be. In fact I think you could put a strong argument forward that academic feminism is largely overthinking and an intellectual approach to self-interest and proving that self-interest to be OK.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 08:20 PM
0

Men can't be battered, silly. /Waits for deep-fried man recipes coming out of AMR.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:59 AM
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Unless there's a court order stop all funds to her until she relents. It might backfire in the long run. The other alternative is to get his parents involved and to have them go after her for their rights and his. Best to get a lawyer though. If necessary a Japanese lawyer and one in the appropriate jurisdiction in the states. A reasonable judge will have a hard time understanding why she can't provide time to skype. However, getting a reasonable judge is a crap shoot. I wish you both and his so…
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:55 AM
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I'd argue CA since it has a history of being bigoted against men -and the concentration of media outlets. Add to that the very rich people paying insane amounts of support. I'd love to see Dave Foley do an ad. However there's much to argue for Florida given the stupid factor. Edited a word.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:46 AM
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I've found that talking to people in person gets you a lot further than on the internet and once someone takes a liking to you they're far more likely to listen to what you have to say. I've talked some right-leaning types to be more accepting of lgbt folks and I've had some luck convincing irl feminists to grasp that everything isn't all sunshine and roses for men. Getting people out of their entrenched positions is hard. There's a ton of in-group bias that many women have that cannot be pried …
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:41 AM
3

The contradictions in that sentence hurt my brain.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:31 AM
1

In that case separating children from their mothers forever would ameliorate that problem over time wouldn't it? Then there will be no separation trauma!
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:14 AM
3

This would have to be done state by state barring some national outrage or build up by lobbying groups. Additionally even getting it done in any state would have to done by getting attention on what is wrongfully getting paid for and showing the worst excesses. That means getting investigators and media people.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:08 AM
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In some states here her marital income would be imputed and she'd be paying child support in every state whose laws I'm passably familiar with. However refusal to work is something that women far more often do get away with than men here. Judges rarely force women to work.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:05 AM
1

Obviously you know zero Dads.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:58 AM
1

And end up in private prisons popping up all over the US? Are you sure you've thought this through?
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:56 AM
1

This, a million times this.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:54 AM
3

Her wages aren't garnished? Usually that's the first thing that happens, at least if it's a woman receiving.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:54 AM
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Thankfully most people aren't in the position you are. I'm sorry you're receiving nothing. Can't understand a jurisdiction in the US awarding you nothing but then there are no checks and balances on the judiciary.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:39 AM
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No, it isn't. In order to even be considered to get custody the court, if it's doing its job, all those things must be in place already. They refuse to have it audited because there is no law requiring it. There's no law requiring it because it would be political suicide. It is for the child's basic necessities only. It's solely your responsibility to provide shelter and food. Even if you list what it costs you on the forms the court is under no obligation to take that into account. Much of the …
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:36 AM
1

Honestly couldn't finish reading it. I never go there and have no interest in what that piece of garbage has to say. Nor do I have any desire to direct traffic there and increase his page hits. Inevitably he will say or do something that will get him kicked out of the feminist cool kids club and be forgotten about. I think we should consider giving him less publicity. Besides that Mike I think you're doing a bang up job and love reading your posts and comments on AVfM.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:30 AM
1

Typical anti-right wing smear job. I'm a fucking socialist and I hate these people. I can't even hate Rick Perry to the degree I hate the people supposedly fighting for righteous causes on the left. "Oh Fox is so horrible they suck so bad! Let's see if we can be worse!" Just like the vermin at SRS and AMR - it's a race to the bottom and everyone loses.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:26 AM
2

Thanks for your comments all over this post. Love your posts on disqus too when I see them.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:21 AM
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I think it's important to point out to anyone espousing this garbage that the only group that has ties to the Klan is feminism. The only gender-based group that has ever espoused for eugenics against blacks and the poor is feminism. Only feminism is a hate group. When they balk ask them exactly what feminism has done to benefit black men - on any level.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:20 AM
2

Territoriality.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:12 AM
3

/r/ainbow isn't so bad. Not nearly as bad as /r/lgbt anyway.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:11 AM
1

Awesome. Good luck getting employed outside of feminist circles with that degree. "Would you like foam with that?"
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:01 AM
1

Thank you feminism for a whole fucking world full of double standards and a never-ending amount of female privilege.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 08:54 AM
1

I would pay to see that.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 08:41 AM
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If you're to believe them all feminists are therefore fictional. If only.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 08:39 AM
3

Men cannot be innocent. Just wrongly found not guilty. :/
/r/MensRights16/06/14 08:34 AM
1

Then your reasoning isn't based on support of gay marriage. Which begs one to question why you said that it was if that wasn't the truth. Because the right has never used thought policing. Right.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 07:51 AM
1

I'm really the least qualified person to answer that. All I can say is that the owners have supported SRS publicly despite all the negative publicity they bring and that intortus was an admin that hates men's rights - and men. You'd be better served asking someone that's been here longer.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 07:45 AM
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Other than extreme cases of phimosis I've never heard a good reason for it. Good points.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 11:48 PM
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Switch the sexes.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 11:47 PM
1

Feminism started out fighting for women's rights. Not women over men. You could not be more wrong. Even the feminists that had been abolitionists went back and used racist rhetoric and tried to fight the 14th and 15th amendments because they felt women should have it before black men. See Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Rebecca Latimer Felton, Margaret Sanger ad nauseum. Feminism was tied to the temperance movement because they wished to control men's actions - one of the many times feminists have gotte…
/r/MensRights14/06/14 11:21 PM
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As for what you call my “ancient beliefs,” which you think derive from an “antiquated” and “counterintuitive” culture, allow me to tell you something really counterintuitive: I think I take sexual assault much more seriously than you do. Which is why I worry about definitions of that category of crime that might, by their breadth, tend to trivialize it. And why I think sexual assault is a felony that should be dealt with by the criminal justice system, and not be adjudicated by improvised campus…
/r/MensRights14/06/14 10:46 PM
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They've indicated their love of SRS repeatedly. However, whether the bot's been banned or not is outside my area of expertise or reddit knowledge.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 10:41 PM
2

It is completely incomparable the differences. Individual women have issues, women as a whole or as a group? Not so much. The whole playing field is skewed towards women across the board. Then feminists complain that in one teeny tiny area it isn't skewed entirely to their benefit - and massive media outrage.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 10:34 PM
1

Clearly not. We've both spoken our piece.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 10:22 PM
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I wish I could vote this up a million more times.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 09:14 PM
2

Right, because now you is totally then you and nothing ever effects you emotionally negatively ever. Troll or completely lacking in self-knowledge?
/r/MensRights14/06/14 09:03 PM
1

It entirely depends on your jurisdiction. I don't think anyone other than a lawyer can give you decent advice. If you need to go to the local law library. It won't include case law but at least you can see what's on the books.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 08:59 PM
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Sure, that's why the South went Republican en masse, because it supported equal rights. That's some serious revisionist history. Because you claimed that the Republicans weren't the left wing party, which they were in the 1800s, and aren't today and haven't been since the early 1900s. I think you're thoroughly deluding yourself. Those fat cats have been financing the Tea Party since its inception. I have no idea why you're so enamored of your partisanship. Both parties have no love for the commo…
/r/MensRights14/06/14 08:25 PM
2

I agree with you that marriage in the US is a legal process controlled by the state. By any standard of contracts an unenforceable contract is forfeit so marriage, as an institution in a country of laws, should not exist where no-fault divorce is the law of the land. Therefore the only thing holding it together is the force of the state, not any inherent legality.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 08:12 PM
1

That wasn't a problem for you before gay marriage came up? Sounds specious in the extreme.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 08:10 PM
1

I agree. I'm not sure what we can do about media outlets other than make comments. Part of why I like links to the National Post, WSJ, or Forbes is, despite the fact that two out of three of those I don't agree with them politically on much else, at least they treat the movement seriously and with respect.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 07:35 PM
1

There has been no shift in party ideology You mean other than the South going republican when those Klan-supporters changed sides? George Wallace was the last one to stay, the rest went republican. No side is all good or all bad. Republicans flipped right early in the 20th century, arguing for the politics of austerity. You cannot claim with a straight face that Wilson or FDR were right wingers. There's enough to blame both parties for - they're both terrible. Republicans have exactly zero moral…
/r/MensRights14/06/14 07:29 PM
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The right always has opposed all forms of discrimination. The facts don't fit that narrative. Willie Horton scares? Welfare mothers? "Tough on crime", 3 strikes you're out laws, all directed at blacks. They gathered a new dependent voter base beholden to the special rights and payouts they procured for them. Completely unlike the republicans who are completely beholden to plutocrats and corporate interests. Both parties suck. Both parties work to disadvantage men. A pox on all their houses.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 07:22 PM
1

I can't disagree but then by definition, they aren't being progressive.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 07:17 PM
1

The left has largely become this femina-Stalinist culture that treats men as second class citizens and refuses to hear anything else other than their own bias propaganda. Those of us that worked in unions and labor are betrayed by feminists that only care about women. I suppose this is what Christina Hoff-Sommers meant by who stole feminism - I think she's always been more idealistic about feminism than is warranted. My beliefs don't seem to fit in anywhere anymore . Agreed. I find it bizarre th…
/r/MensRights14/06/14 07:16 PM
1

Am I supposed to cry about that?
/r/MensRights14/06/14 06:53 PM
0

No, you argue the specific points when actual things are happening. When there's a piece of legislation we push that has flaws, then attack it. Don't pull this ideological purity nonsense.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 06:50 PM
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Nothing you have shown indicates a movement it indicates a philosophy. Stanford is a school, not an NGO working for "egalitarian" rights. Someone long dead who is universally thought of as a philosopher. You could easily argue that Marxism is a movement and be equally wrong. Identify yourself however you wish, but don't call feminism and the MHRM the same.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 06:47 PM
1

The wage gap gets debunked every day. It's horseshit. Women don't receive the respect they deserve in certain social circles, especially gaming. Neither do men, such as parenting. Male nurses and teachers aren't always given respect either. This merely shows your bias. The difference between women's "struggles" and that of boys and men is to talk about chipping a nail while the other person's arm is hanging by a ligament.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 06:31 PM
1

What legislation? We have no inherent un-egalitarian beliefs. When we're still trying to get noticed is not the time for "reflection". Do some research, write your congressman - fine. It's not the time.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 04:24 AM
2

Short of a revolution there's no way in hell a multi-party system is going to come about. Much as I'd like it to.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 04:19 AM
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I will not. I will vote for Warren should she succeed. Not that I think that makes a difference as my vote never got Ralph Nader elected either. The idea of a republican president doesn't disgust me - the candidates do. Regardless you're turning this into a pointless pissing match. Republicans have been just as bad, if not worse, for men overall. We cannot afford to be partisan when we're barely even a cohesive group.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 04:18 AM
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The time to discuss this is when we've gotten significant legislation passed, the tide is going our way and we can take a breather. Not now. For the moment this is navel gazing.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 02:59 AM
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I would argue that regardless of being grouped with the left feminism is generally a reactionary movement and one which exists solely to benefit one group and maintain all its current privileges while grasping for evermore. Its goal is to have at least 50 percent of women in the top 1 percent, as politicians, as CEOs with 0 percent at the bottom. There is no way in hell that can be considered a progressive movement. Edited to add: A movement that benefits the 1 percent at the expense of the rest…
/r/MensRights14/06/14 02:49 AM
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It isn't "egalitarianism for men" until pieces of legislation our movement push deliberately disenfranchise another group. That's the difference. Feminism has always worked to disenfranchise others. You fail to understand that, then that's your failure to understand their history and legislation.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 02:29 AM
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Feminists would say the EXACT same thing with the genders reversed, and you're coming dangerously close to a 'no true scotsman' fallacy. Sure, anyone can say anything. The proof is in the pudding. There is no legislation or rule brought upon by MHRAs that has been unfair to women. That's a fact. I don't care how you label yourself. There is no egalitarian movement. Who are its leaders? Where is the legislation?
/r/MensRights14/06/14 02:27 AM
2

Which is why we need to push back as hard as we can. We need to expose the pundits for their agendas. We need to use publicity and political power to undermine the culture of hate.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 02:24 AM
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It's much less common, but it happens. Where? Kindly show me a single piece of legislation we've helped get passed that worked against women.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 02:22 AM
1

You need to get a lawyer now. If you wait you're fucked. You need joint custody to keep them in state most places - because visitation does not infer any other rights. I'm no lawyer but the California case law allowing custodial parents to essentially do whatever it is they please will likely have an impact. Save your pennies and get a lawyer - or be prepared to exit your child's life. It is that serious.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 02:21 AM
2

I'm merely saying it's easy to come to that conclusion. I completely agree with your position.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 01:20 AM
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I don't see the MHRA movement doing that. Everything we're trying to address we do in order for fairness. There has never been a push for advocacy just for male benefit like feminism has always been about.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 01:15 AM
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Blue collar socialist, anti-feminist, MHRA. I agree with you however, it is primarily the leftist sources that are the most outwardly misandric. It is nigh impossible to have a dialogue with anyone other than hate-filled ideologues on any of their discussions. The Atlantic, HuffPo, Alternet, RawSewage are all guilty of this and moderate away comments they don't like - or you get piledriven into the ground votes-wise.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 01:08 AM
3

Woman gets man's sentence, damsels herself, receives get out of jail free card. News at 11.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 12:50 AM
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It would have to be tested to set a precedent, and I'm completely ignorant of Canadian laws. However, men going to prison over unpayable child support debt should push this issue since they've got nothing to lose. One thing I will say is that their judiciary seems to be even more swayed by damseling than ours is given that they've let obvious attempts at attempted murder go completely unpunished.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 12:43 AM
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I don't tend to like pissing on someone's idealism - but feminism has a history dating back to its very beginnings as an exclusionary movement that only cares about white upper and middle class women. Even the kumbaya feminism many equate to the 2nd wave is undercut by mainstream feminists like Robin Morgan and Gloria Steinem that are fervently misandric. Some of the ideals are laudable, that much is inarguable, but that's like saying you're proud of being a Stalinist because you believe in some…
/r/MensRights14/06/14 12:03 AM
2

I'm not sure how that couldn't be inverted into everything in our whole movement.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 11:36 PM
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I've got no beef with you - but I think that it's of paramount importance to make the word and show the movement to be as toxic as possible. I do think that Christina Hoff-Sommers and to an extent Cathy Young do better labeling themselves as feminists because it's more effective to dismantle a hate movement that isn't considered one from within. We both agree that sexism is bad, certainly.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 11:35 PM
1

I think you could make a case for the fact that if this happened to a woman it would get more press and more social outrage. Instead he's a guy, and disabled, that's two strikes and fuck him.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 11:30 PM
1

I fail to see how this undermines Intactivism when it supports it. More eyes on intactivism from a variety of different groups is good. No?
/r/MensRights13/06/14 11:25 PM
2

Putative father laws and registries should be unconstitutional. This isn't he said, she said so much as an opportunity to fight injustice in the courts. We aren't reading this from the perspective of readers of People magazine.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 11:24 PM
1

Did you look at the pics David? That can only hurt us. This could just as easily be a false flag operation.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 11:21 PM
2

How so? It's a legitimate issue and one of many that overlap. It affects the intersexed as well. That's a hell of a lot of overlap between various groups. See this from upthread:http://www.peyroniecenter.it/Transsexualism-male-to-female-rectosigma-vaginoplasty
/r/MensRights13/06/14 11:01 PM
2

Most are scum, true, but then it wasn't transfolks that asked them to jump on their bandwagon either and make all discussion toxic. It helps because it shows us as an equality movement that acknowledges others that share the same issues. It weakens the bigot's hold on trans issues and rights and will bring more of them into our fold. Transfolks != sjws.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 10:55 PM
4

Thank you for posting this. Completely agree. Glad to see these kinds of posts. I would, however, have phrased it as circumcision is also trans rights. There's a ton of overlap in issues between men's rights and trans rights, particularly those of transwomen, or intersectionality if you must. I hope you keep posting.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 10:46 PM
4

There is nothing in the post that indicates that circumcision "only matters because it adversely impacts vaginoplasty". This is one of many areas where men's issues and transwomen's issues overlap.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 10:44 PM
6

No one would bat an eye if it were a man - and no one would give him asylum.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 10:41 PM
6

No one has ever had a problem letting men rot for 30 years over things they didn't even do. Excuse me if I have no sympathy.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 10:39 PM
2

It was the jury's fault - it's an obvious case of attempted murder.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 10:39 PM
0

Oh wait, it's just a troll no one would actually take it seriously and advocate for it!
/r/MensRights13/06/14 10:33 PM
1

Please never post a link again. Thanks.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 10:32 PM
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Are you Revok? Because you should really give Marcotte a visit if you are. Haha, have to love the downvotes. Clearly asking a fictional character to do something that humans are incapable of is actual violence.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:19 PM
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Until there's a clear calling out of those people by so-called moderate feminists that's how all of them will be broad-brushed. I have no problem with that. It's an ideology that needs to expire.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:18 PM
2

Gotta love that 50 shades "Rape Culture" meme.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:16 PM
8

Created obviously not. Manipulated is quite fair.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:15 PM
2

Is a copy-paste effective? I'm really terrible at rewriting these kinds of things.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:08 PM
1

Thanks for sharing your story. I'm sorry about what you went through. How are you doing, if you don't mind my asking?
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:06 PM
3

Every feminist is a fictional feminist. Interesting.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:04 PM
2

The fact that you took the AMRat's citation as fact and ignored the debunking I provided. "40% of mothers reported that they had interfered with the non-custodial father’s visitation on at least one occasion, to punish their ex-spouse Between 250/0 – 33% of mothers denied visits 90% of the violence and kidnapping we have seen are in sole custody situations in which the sole custodial parent fears losing his or her custody status, or the parentectomized parent kidnaps the child away from the sole…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:03 PM
1

Which is why you have Paglia there to shred them and Hoff-Sommers to patiently explain why what the other two have to say is horseshit.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:00 PM
1

Good advice you all.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 12:53 PM
4

You mean the doctored link that was debunked by mine. Nor have you addressed a single thing I've written. It isn't conjecture when it happens every single day. Go look at the links I have in the other post. When feminists claim the, at most, 6 cent difference in overall wages per capita translates into "women getting paid less" meme - and you see this stunning disparity based on actual numbers countered absolutely nothing other than manipulated statistics to fit an outcome which side do you choo…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 12:31 PM
1

Nor does the vast majority of feminists.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 11:44 AM
2

According to the Census stats that percentage is correct. Just because she's a bigot and trying to get you twisted doesn't mean you should bite.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 11:43 AM
23

Dat privilege. Nice debunking, you'd never see that on the Guardian. At least not without some sort of disclaimer showing that women are better because reasons.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 11:39 AM
1

In which case it needs replacing - and someone to do that replacing. In the meantime - hearts and minds.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 10:38 AM
1

Why Laci Green?
/r/MensRights13/06/14 10:00 AM
2

Generally it's in the charts. I suppose if you had to you could get a copy of the marriage license. The U.S. doesn't consider fathers that aren't married to actually have rights. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putative_father_registry However, I suspect the OP's SO is likely to have put the OP on the birth certificate which at least provides him with some legal standing or should as I understand it. Caveat: I'm not a lawyer and I have no idea what jurisdiction OP is in. Family law is a mess and e…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 09:50 AM
1

It is in the nature of new parents to be nervous. You'll be fine. Give yourself permission to make mistakes and just be as loving and as involved as you can be. But you can't really be present if you don't get any sleep.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 09:33 AM
1

If I may say - do caretake to yourself. Get some rest. Please. Imagine what you would have liked your father have done. Do that. Honor yourself and your child. Dote on your child. As long as you have love in your heart I'm sure you'll do fine. We all make mistakes. The next two years may well be the most trying of your life but they will be worth it. Just hang in there. :)
/r/MensRights13/06/14 09:14 AM
3

Good luck! There's nothing more important than bonding early and often with your child. They will remember it.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:59 AM
4

That's a good idea. Also, like I mentioned, talk to the head nurse or floor nurse. They have privacy curtains in those rooms for a reason. However, if there's a hospital rule make them show it to you in writing.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:54 AM
6

I don't see anything there that indicates nothing but he said, she said or mandatory ten year sentences. However the comment about gendered violence sends up a plethora of red flags.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:47 AM
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Since you're not married in most states you have no rights. I'm sorry. Talk to the ward nurse and the doctor doing the rounds. Let them know that if they won't allow you to see your child that you will keep going up the ladder or to the news until you get what you deserve. Usually that type of forthrightness followed by an obvious "will do" attitude will work - and if not go ahead and follow through. You lose nothing.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:43 AM
74

Sounds about right. Feminists will stop at nothing to ensure that only their speech is heard.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:32 AM
-1

This is the logical outcome of feminism.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:30 AM
2

https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/12/08/children-are-as-likely-to-end-up-living-with-neither-parent-as-they-are-with-just-their-father/ http://www.the-spearhead.com/2011/08/22/the-bias-against-u-s-fathers-in-custody-and-child-support/ Here's a good start. Dalrock has a bunch of good posts. You don't need percentages. In most states an unwed father has no rights to his child whatsoever outside of a putative father registry. He is not guaranteed to get the child and is not considered to have an i…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:15 AM
2

That's a solid well written piece.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 06:25 AM
2

I venture to guess that most people that have come to the MHRM have come due to seeing bias in divorce courts or by having abusive mothers who used feminism as a stick to beat their male children with - or had to watch it happen.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 06:06 AM
1

It's much higher for men than women and always has been.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 05:47 AM
3

Translation- everything bad that happens to you as a man you deserve. Signed every feminist ever.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 05:40 AM
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Actually it's phatphace that's cherry-picking. Mass. isn't everywhere. Percent custody != visitation. http://www.breakingthescience.org/SJC_GBC_analysis_intro.php Every single time a feminist posts one of these things it's highly cherry picked - and warped. Most men cannot afford attorneys. Women get them gratis via NGOs in every state. They may have to claim abuse but that's a common tactic anyway. Women bring roughly 80% of divorces and have attorneys which judges often force the husband to pa…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 05:39 AM
1

I wouldn't mind shipping every single feminist there.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 05:25 AM
3

That's not a great person.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 05:21 AM
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Anywhere women aren't completely in charge = "hostile patriarchal workplace".
/r/MensRights13/06/14 05:16 AM
3

Actually you should just tell her that its a fine avocation as in most states there are far more applicants than those accepted.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 05:15 AM
6

Here's the thing - across the board in the trades, construction etc. there are a billion well-funded programs for women that they generally refuse to take advantage of. Compare this to the disincentives for teaching K-12 and no incentives for nursing.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 05:14 AM
3

One would have to know their motives.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 05:12 AM
1

Paglia, Valenti, Marcotte. Ignition.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 05:06 AM
3

I like you. Everyone I know has stories just like yours.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 05:04 AM
2

I will jump up and yell "Goal!" With all the complaints and cross complaints no one will ever consider sending their children to CA colleges.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 04:58 AM
2

Not according to these standards of evidence.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 04:56 AM
2

There's no way immigrants will keep sending their sons, and anyone with boys will tell them to go to college in another state.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 04:56 AM
2

If it passes- Plusses: everyone will have known someone screwed by this law, right-wing news sources will have a field day, it will absolutely erode feminism and its talking points due to how it will be used. Men cannot be held accountable to a different standard and eventually there will be cases of revenge that will make this law take a dirt nap in the Supreme Court. Men will think twice about getting educated at Cal and Stanford, UCLA, etc. and more foreigners will find states or countries le…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 04:54 AM
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One can easily be both. Still, she's a feminist which means she has a malicious, hate-filled agenda regardless of her IQ.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 04:43 AM
1

Yeah, I saw that. Not a lot of calloused working class socialists in that mob.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 02:56 AM
1

Ha! There is that! I hadn't even looked at the date. Good call.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 02:51 AM
2

This is TIA bait.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 02:48 AM
1

I wish you luck with that. Bigots are married to their dialogues. See AMR, SRS, every single feminist sub ad nauseum. Everyday someone comes on here and mentions losing friends over hateful shit their friends share on FB.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 02:43 AM
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Right, which is exactly why they won't take them until they have none. Then there's a tiny percentage of women that are interested in physical jobs. This isn't society, it's a choice and more than likely genetically based. That whole series is awesome and I highly recommend watching every episode.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 02:03 AM
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Absolutely but you can hardly call telling someone to get out in a rude way the same as trying to make a false rape report followed by assault and battery.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 12:04 AM
1

Something not absolutely terrible from Salon? Never saw that happening.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 11:45 PM
2

CA has the strongest gun control laws in the nation. The fault lies in doctors, friends, family and anyone else that knew he was severely mentally ill and that he had guns.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 11:40 PM
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Just for once, though, wouldn't it be nice if men were able to exist for one single day without having to always accommodate feminism's ideas about what a man should be in some way? Not as long as those vermin still draw breath.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 11:20 PM
3

Just point out the SPLC is a hate group wholly tied to transexclusive feminists. Game. Set. Match.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 10:57 PM
1

A lot of dads would do 13 by choice if they were able. However, they're still looking forward to getting fucked in court even if they're the primary caretaker even if the wife is willing or able to finance him being at home.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 10:14 PM
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They've had well over 50 years. This is preference and has been shown to be such world wide. There's a Norwegian documentary about it. hjernevask http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xp0tg8_hjernevask-brainwashing-english-part-1-the-gender-equality-paradox_news Unless women are forced into these positions they will not take them. You also seem to forget that women worked in factories extensively in the 40s and had been having careers since at least the 1800s. Only the 1950s are this strange aberrati…
/r/MensRights12/06/14 09:48 PM
0

It happens to everyone. Everyone does these things. None of them are sexual harrassment or gendered. Your definition of misogyny is the feminist one. Your definition of objectification is the feminist one. Until you can prove without a doubt that these things don't happen to anyone else and it happens entirely to one gender it's nonsense. I don't indiscriminately sexually harrass people because I don't do that. I'm bisexual so no, I don't "target a specific gender" and according to Kinsey most p…
/r/MensRights12/06/14 09:30 PM
2

Oh noes! I guess that means I'm the Last in Line! -cue Dio-
/r/MensRights12/06/14 09:26 PM
2

I too demand a refund!
/r/MensRights12/06/14 09:21 PM
1

Looks good!
/r/MensRights12/06/14 09:10 PM
0

Kindly show me this global definition of misogyny that somehow transcends dictionary defnitions that isn't based upon feminist thought. Objectifying people is what people do when a) they don't know them and b) they find them sexually attractive. Everyone does this. It isn't hate. Again, you're using feminist concepts to prove a point. You want to show me the legal definition of hate then? Pick a jurisdiction. I don't give two shits about PUAs, TRP or anything else. Your argument that catcalling …
/r/MensRights12/06/14 09:02 PM
1

You should use some reading comprehension. Saying that you're using a feminist lexicon is not calling someone a feminist. It's pointing out an error. Because nothing you've talked about showed hate towards women. It is a technique. Many women react positively to it, particularly in the black community. I haven't budged from my arguments - I have no idea what you're so perplexed about.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 08:43 PM
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Your initial reply to me is gone. I knew you weren't banned so I made the wrong assumption. Mea culpa. When you wrote it to me though I didn't recall seeing anything bad. Maybe you went back and added to it? If "knowingly false" can be made to have a rigid standard - maybe. If it isn't all women will just be able to weasel out of it. Other than the same standard of insanity we make murderers apply to I'm against cutting anyone else a break on it.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 08:28 PM
1

I didn't call you anything. You are not using the dictionary definition of misogyny. I never said it was, you're just dragging the conversation away from the actual points I made because you've been proven wrong several times now. Where, exactly? Sexual harrassment has a definite meaning that stands alone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_harassment Here you are talking about game in conversation that was never about that. Who's the one "dragging the conversation away from the actual points"…
/r/MensRights12/06/14 08:08 PM
1

For some amount of custody since it's not automatic. That doesn't translate into visitation which is what they want you to believe. It just means that you have any amount of control over the child's life. Since feminists couldn't be honest if their lives depended on it. Men still recieve sole custody a dramatically low percentage of the time - about 28 percent last time I checked. Edited to add: 17% according to the Census bureau.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 07:51 PM
2

You've seen the voting patterns on this subthread. I'm doing my best to educate people without being a dick about it but things are what they are. I think those subs are mostly for mocking the hate and evil perpetrated in those subs and provides a release valve. I prefer AMRs because 5thLaw and the other mods are hilarious and AMR is, to a person, vermin.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 07:44 PM
1

Only if you could get the legislature to ensure in these cases they not run concurrently and include mandatory sentencing.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 07:29 PM
3

Then jail them both. We've already got a system that rewards them for these kinds of actions.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 07:27 PM
0

If you're going to delete your posts I'm not going to discuss things with you.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 07:26 PM
2

I must not have made myself clear. I'm talking about management wanting to cave under pressure not media attention.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 07:22 PM
1

I don't know that I've seen you at SRSS, and it isn't really the place for serious discussion. Regardless the dogpiling that often happens when transfolks or their issues are brought up is a real thing and a large part of why I don't spend a significant amount of time there compared to here and AMRS.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 07:21 PM
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You seem to misunderstand the dictonary definition of misogyny and misandry and have instead twisted them to some feminist version of such. They are hatred and behaviors that emanate out of hatred. Period. Catcalling is not hate. It's a tool that does actually work on a significant number of women - and always has. It's a mating technique. Harassment is when someone tries to use force to force you into dating them - something that happens rarely and is generally brought upon through gynocentrism…
/r/MensRights12/06/14 07:16 PM
1

All of which would run concurrently and give a woman at most 2 years. The outcome you envision would never happen.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 07:10 PM
1

If you can't consider constructive criticism sympathetic I really don't know what you can. Frankly when I've been distraught it's been vastly easier for me to do a task than to remain mired in my despair.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 07:08 PM
1

It could turn into a bonding experience though, and that would be advantageous.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 07:06 PM
3

Well, that's a very slight victory if you can consider it a victory at all. Plusses: now they have to drive to protest which will cut down their numbers significantly. The VFW is going to give zero fucks about what these people have to say and death threats are going to cause them to dig in. Minuses: more people will have to rent cars or cab ride together making it an even more expensive jaunt.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 09:36 AM
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I get that. She's super funny. I always look forward to running into her or driversuz on disqus. The never-ending hate from those people (meaning feminists of course) can get to you.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 09:31 AM
1

Besides the stats-related stuff other folks put up one should always bring up how a supposedly anti-hate movement can support transexclusionary feminists and not itself be considered a hate group.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 09:28 AM
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lol I love her. She's so aweome.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 09:15 AM
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For the love of whatever you hold holy edit that and put in paragraphs. No one is going to read that wall of text.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 09:00 AM
1

In that case women legislators shouldn't be able to vote on men's rights or circumcision issues either.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 08:44 AM
2

Also the county bar association should be able to hook you up with a low- or no-cost consultation with an attorney in that field.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 08:39 AM
3

If you're a woman most counties have a variety of agencies all too willing to support you. Depends on the county. In some you have to claim abuse. This doesn't work if you're male. Edited to add: here's one: http://www.herjustice.org/content/view/2/2/
/r/MensRights12/06/14 08:34 AM
0

hahahahaha!
/r/MensRights12/06/14 08:32 AM
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When you made the plea that largely seals the deal. You should ask someone that does criminal appeals in CA if you're still there.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 08:25 AM
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Joke's on them. Looking forward to them picketing outside a VFW hall where no fucks will be given to them.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 08:21 AM
4

Which makes any differentiation academic.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 06:23 AM
1

I agree, but I think it's rather obvious to state that this isn't the OP's version of a normal world. Regardless there needs to be stiff penalties for false accusations. They should be ruinous financially and should have mandatory sentencing of several years with no possibilty of early parole.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 06:22 AM
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Just take care of yourself. Take nature walks, hang out with friends, read some light fiction, whatever you can to caretake yourself. IT's a hard road we're on - and as someone that also suffers from depression I hear you loud and clear. Just cling to all the things that give you joy in life. They don't have to be big. As long as I can drink a dark roast or espresso that's enough reason for me to continue. I wish you all the best. Please don't hesitate to PM if you need to talk.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 06:04 AM
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If we lived in a normal world, this woman would be sued into bankruptcy and jailed forever for filing a false police report. This is the kind of thing that deserves life imprisonment without parole.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 06:00 AM
2

Shh! Don't tell their team that!
/r/MensRights12/06/14 05:27 AM
1

Do you have any links? Does the rape shield law apply to the accused as well?
/r/MensRights12/06/14 05:25 AM
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No, see you don't get it. Being a stripper is ok and is empowering, a man paying or even dating a stripper is disgusting because soggy knees and penis. Oh, and paytriarchy.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 05:12 AM
7

Even more false equivalencies. Nice. At least you're consistent. Because you are an AMRat or SRSer. Maybe you're just a garden variety bigot, most likely self-loathing, trolling mensrights. I don't really care. It looks like a bigot, it smells like a bigot and it posts in feminist subs which means it is a bigot because non-bigots get banned.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 05:09 AM
1

Quite.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 04:55 AM
0

Ah, those false equivlencies. Let me guess AMRat? Self-loathing white male or misandric woman with a chip on her shoulder?
/r/MensRights12/06/14 04:54 AM
1

In other words the only actual privilege using their terminology.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 04:50 AM
2

Thanks! If you've got a specific search result that's working for you would you mind passing it along?
/r/MensRights12/06/14 04:37 AM
2

Today I learned Cathy Brennan was an MRA. The fiction that feminists are pro-lgbt is merely trying to hitch a wagon to a group that has actual issues. Transexclusionary feminists are not some tiny minority and they most assuredly exist. Feminsts consistently treat transmen as honorary women. That calling out cishet men? That's misandry and transmisandry in one lovely package tied up with a bow. Oh? I'm sorry you're so ignorant about your own movement. Go look up Rebecca Latimer Felton and Margar…
/r/MensRights12/06/14 04:30 AM
2

I couldn't find it using that method. Link?
/r/MensRights12/06/14 04:25 AM
0

Showing why false rape accusations should be mandatory prison for life.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 04:09 AM
3

It depends on where and what study and how those studies got their results. From what I've seen they consistently skew the numbers, deliberately. What they hope you'll do is conflate custody with visitation. You can have as much as 50 percent custody and still be essentially a babysitter once a month. At no point have men gotten more custody or visitation than women in any jurisdiction. Again, this is for any amount of custody - which really shows how bad it is because it should be automatic. Ho…
/r/MensRights12/06/14 04:07 AM
1

Agreed. I can't vote this up as written. This is incredibly common though. Plus children of both sexes are easily swayed to "protecting" the mother especially when the mother is emotionally manipulating them.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 03:55 AM
1

That's because men don't count.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 03:47 AM
2

Proving that women are capable of abuse in a time where the mass media refuses to promote that women are anything other than perfect princesses is an important thing. The boy is a victim - typically made invisible and there is no outrage because no one cares because he is a boy. This is absolutely relevant. Your post comes across as a concern troll.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 03:46 AM
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men's sexuality is inherently vile and they deserve everything that happens to them when trying to get those "needs" met. /every feminist ever
/r/MensRights12/06/14 03:34 AM
1

If you were my kid I'd tell you to either kick her ass or both of us go down to the courthouse and get you a TRO. Then I'd get an attorney to write a letter telling her parents in no uncertain terms not to bother you or face the consequences.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 03:00 AM
2

Stellar.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 02:46 AM
1

If you want badly to attend you tell them you qualify and that any inquiry into why is a violation of your privacy. Meanwhile record the conversation.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 02:45 AM
2

Considering how anti-male the UN in general is it's probably a high water mark for them.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 02:31 AM
1

We can't name her for legal reasons. It's not an issue that we mention the male perps.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 02:27 AM
0

You may be right. Like I said, anti-intellectualism is far more acceptable on SRSS. I hate it personally. I've gotten downvoted there over trans issues and over supporting the left- or probably more correctly leftist ideals. Thanks for weighing in. I've friended you. Hope you don't mind.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 02:05 AM
6

I disagree. However, I'm not going to get into a very long thread about why. Do guys get grabbed by women? Yes. Do guys get grabbed by gay guys? Yes. Do women grab other women? Yes. Hell you'll see way more women touching a pregnant woman without asking than you'll see anything else. None of that is due to hate unless desire=hate. There's no culture that says grabbing anyone is super cool and that you should definitely do it. So no, not misogyny.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 02:01 AM
1

I mentioned Kimmel specifically because he's dangerous and that misandric male feminists work to whitewash their movement and smear ours. I agree with targeting the institutions first and foremost.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 01:57 AM
1

Sadly a bunch of them do. Anti-intellectuals all of those particular people. Themselves buying into feels not reals as a methodology. At least it's a minority. Still, the failure of much of the MHRM in recognizing that transwomen, and to a degree transmen, face the same problems and bigotry from feminists as well as sharing the antipathy society has for all their issues.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 01:55 AM
1

I wasn't advocating the methodology just the idea of attacking feminism through its institutions. NOW, various domestic violence agencies, nailing the CDC for using Mary Koss, nailing the UN for its constant and ongoing anti-male bias ad nauseum. Target the institutions and spokespersons. Expose Michael Kimmel for who he really is and what he stands for.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 01:38 AM
5

I cannot remember any adult so stupid as to say "women can't do x" since the 1970s outside of an obvious joke. Women in no way face systematic oppression or are discriminated against.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 01:31 AM
1

A coordinated media campaign against NOW for example would hardly hurt us. What I wouldn't advocate is tying the current Planned Parenthood to active eugenicists. While the outcome is fewer poor children and children of color it would be hard to show the current management as holding Sanger's beliefs. Plus I don't think we should be tied to either side in the pro/anti-abortion battle.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 01:29 AM
1

I think it's pretty clear now that we should.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 12:35 AM
2

As opposed to feminism and feminists who have always used it. Lynching? Supported by feminists. Bombing? Feminists. Membership in and support of the Klan? Feminists. Support and advocacy for eugenics? Feminists. Your loathing of even the male children of lgbt groups is disgusting. Feminism as a group, has worked hard to disadvantage boys and men for over 40 years. Your whitewashing of feminism as "allies" while they continue to advocate that transmen aren't men and transwomen aren't women and th…
/r/MensRights12/06/14 12:29 AM
8

Hardships != misogyny. Nor do they acknowledge any of the problems men and those that love them face that their own movement is responsible for. Let alone any others. Incredibly isolated misogyny (which is more due to their own pushing of a gynocentric culture) vs. pervasive misandry.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 12:22 AM
3

Only "the feminists" are getting hundreds of trolls, jerks, offensive attacks, and off-topic comments. Cite? I see AMRats and SRSers everyhere on MR and elsewhere. That's not even counting the trolls, the off-topic comments, the "not men's rights"sters ad nauseum. If you've got some statistics that support what you're saying - compiled by someone that doesn't have an agenda I'm all too happy to cede the point.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 12:15 AM
3

Equality is antithetical to feminism - so it sounds about perfect. I am, in no way, supporting trp just following the line of logic.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 12:12 AM
5

The irony that these women have never faced misogyny in their entire lives and yet claim its ever-present omnipotent qualities is ironic and shows clearly a group with no problems using its bullying power to silence anyone else.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 12:07 AM
6

/r/SRSsucks will give you a wonderful idea of what that sub is about.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 12:05 AM
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Given feminist's arguments that they get to pick and choose which ones are actual feminists - to fit their criteria of the day, hour, minute, my definition is no less correct. Hoff-Sommers is bright enough to know that the best way to attack a movement is from within. The way I would frame her is "self-proclaimed feminist and advocate for men and human rights"
/r/MensRights11/06/14 11:45 PM
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I have never considered either to be feminists. Feminism is a supremacy movement and like anything can be as correct as a broken clock.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 11:29 PM
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How is this a response to what I wrote?
/r/MensRights11/06/14 11:20 PM
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I'm not the one trivializing the word. I never in a million years thought I'd have to point out someone purportedly on our side actually making a rape apology. Human bodies act in different ways to stimuli. Those reactions aren't controllable. There's many cases of women raped who felt untold shame because they orgasmed against their own desire. I'm willing to bet that most men raped by women or who otherwise orgasm during rape feel the same way. http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-05/sci…
/r/MensRights11/06/14 11:20 PM
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Are bigots a legitimate group? No. Do they have common cause? No. This is a red herring. An infrastructure and power base we must destroy. We destroy it by showing its history, what it stands for and why it has to lie in order to prop up its bigotry. There's zero reason to still have a women's rights movement. Everything achievable has been done and now it can only serve as an oppressive force - which it has done since at least the 90s.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 11:15 PM
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Thanks for that handy quote which kept me from having to look it up. :)
/r/MensRights11/06/14 11:11 PM
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60s feminism was second wave feminism which was the first wave of bigoted feminism. This is an outright lie designed to show that the bigots on their side have ever been an actual social justice movement instead of an exclusionary hate movement - since its inception. Was Margaret Sanger a second-waver? Rebecca Latimer Felton? Elizabeth Cady Stanton? How about the WKKK? Their support of the temperance movement? Feminism's anger towards black men getting the vote and their fundamental racism? Femi…
/r/MensRights11/06/14 11:09 PM
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When you're dead-set against treating men as human beings, or getting off the hate-fueled money train they're addicted to and have no morals literally nothing is too low to stoop to. Also see AMR.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 11:17 PM
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That hurt my head - and is obviously inevitable.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 11:09 PM
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"Bigots are people too". Yes, I think that's a movement you should definitely start up and support. At this point you should get some sleep because you are burying yourself. Hardly. No one has to be a feminist to fight for women's rights. There is no meaningful dialog now. Nor is there ever likely to be. We gain converts every single time we get called out. They've put their own house on fire there's no reason to hose it down for them.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 10:14 PM
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Who exactly are the MHRM and LGBT movements disenfranchising? Do you logic? Feminism needs to be such a toxic label that no sane person embraces it - or could ever do so. Drive a stake in it.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 09:58 PM
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Figurative you not literal you. They are not now, and never have been a human rights movement. Right, "trying to make the world a better place". I seem to recall any number of totalitarian dictators that were doing the same thing. Actively working to silence any issues that aren't yours, actively and consistently working against the rights of others - dating back to the movement's inception? Not a hallmark of any equality movement.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 09:53 PM
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I think saying any feminist "loves and respects" any male is going way too far. Finds them useful, sure. In this case it's progeny as extension of self.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 09:47 PM
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Troll or idiot? Both?
/r/MensRights10/06/14 09:43 PM
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Your views are uninformed and are thus far effectively nonsense. An equality movement doesn't consistently and actively work to disenfranchise others. Period. It is the same as calling their pals in the Klan integrationists.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 09:42 PM
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You have no evidence of this - and can provide no evidence of this. Margaret Sanger, Rebecca Latimer Felton and many others didn't appear out of whole cloth. It was about establishing women's primacy in all things - and always has been. Having actively fought against universal male suffrage and against blacks - and especially black men.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 09:39 PM
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Owning your piece of the problem - and recognizing it was your movement that brought things to where they are is an absolute minimum of acceptable behavior.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 09:34 PM
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No, fuck that place, the mods and anyone promoting it. AMR are the kings of false equivalency and are, to a person, vermin.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 11:29 AM
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Somehow I think you didn't grasp the inherent humor in the parent's statement.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 10:58 AM
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i have seen them change the rules and make them retroactive. I have seen the rules unevenly applied, generally against MHRAs - and all the mods talk about is how to keep more feminists there while trolling AMR for more bigots. Fuck that place. Other than 5th Law putting the schooling down that place has zero benefit to humanity.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 10:56 AM
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That just makes me wonder if Carol Burnette had a love child with the Great Gazoo. /dating myself.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 10:46 AM
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Until all the mods are canned, fuck that place.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 10:43 AM
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Yiddish has its roots in German.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 10:41 AM
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I saw this last year. She doesn't denounce feminism at all and she doesn't own her part as to how we got here. Furthermore, like all female feminists, this is all about her through her son. Self-interest is all these people have. I wouldn't consider her an ally - merely slightly more reasonable than her comrades.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 10:36 AM
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No, there were real socialists in Germany that they were actively fighting against. They were always vehemently anti-marxist. In this particular case it has more to do with populism than actual socialism. Sadly I don't have the time to track down Nazi theory at the moment but this article should help dispel things: http://www.infoplease.com/encyclopedia/history/socialist-parties-in-germany.html Many members of the Freikorps, one of the predecessors of the Nazi Party, fought viciously against the…
/r/MensRights10/06/14 12:45 AM
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That's a common misconception.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 12:00 AM
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Oops. well then. Fixed. Thanks.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 11:53 PM
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I had been a Marxist then Anarchist and back since high school certainly. There were cross burnings going on less than 3 miles away from where I lived and I recall being in grade school when blacks were still being lynched. Shocking to someone growing up to Sesame Street back in its infancy. That's really interesting. Your story, I mean. I live in quite a "progressive" area so I know first hand all the b.s. that comes with and all the double standards and "white man's burden" b.s. that involves …
/r/MensRights09/06/14 11:44 PM
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You missed the best part autowikibot: Recruitment[edit] During the wave of the 1920s, activism was strongest due to the efforts of women's suffrage. Many members were related to Klansmen. Some women joined the WKKK against the wishes of their husbands who felt it out of their partners' "wifely duty" and a rebellious attempt to increase her political power. Women also joined in an effort to preserve their white Protestant rights as they felt violated by the intrusion of immigrant and African-Amer…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 11:28 PM
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I haven't fully vetted these first two links but some of it is certainly good: http://www.dadsnow.org/index2.html http://standyourground.com/forums/index.php?topic=11205.0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_of_the_Ku_Klux_Klan My next non-fiction purchases are going to be the works of Kathleen Blee, ironically a feminist as I understand it. Hard to find affordable copies though.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 11:26 PM
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That's only because feminists give transmen a pussy pass showing exactly how bigoted they are.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 11:16 PM
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Bad troll, no goat for you.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 11:14 PM
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Quite deeply. Look up the WKKK, Margaret Sanger and for sheer white supremacy Rebecca Latimer Felton who advocated for lynching. It's not just them but they're among the most prominent.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 11:13 PM
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I personally didn't. Pre-Windows 95 I was still on Amigas and spent little time on the internet. I didn't spend much time on the net until the late nineties - and wasn't involved in politics online. My experiences with feminism and its negativity date back to childhood so it has more to do with that than radicalization, though working at school districts certainly helped. Seeing exactly how a woman-dominated sphere works and the lack of professionalism within and surfeit of drama and bullshit wi…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 11:11 PM
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Honestly, I do too but hard lessons like empathy are only won through pain - and their team needs to suffer a great deal of it in order for us to see some change coming from their direction.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 09:16 PM
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Can't wait to hear feminists arguing against child support as a result of this. Of course they'll only argue women shouldn't have to pay. I hope she gets Dave Foley'ed.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 09:04 PM
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Ah, I missed the Margaret Sanger quote. Thanks. She's awesome isn't she? Planned Parenthood gives awards out in her name. Anyone that claims feminism isn't an exclusionary hate movement knows zip about feminism and its history. Edited to add: http://liveaction.org/research/margaret-sanger-quotes-history-and-biography Shows Sanger's propensity towards violence and eugenics - putting the lie to feminist's claims they're a non-violent movement. http://www.dianedew.com/sanger.htm http://www.national…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 07:04 PM
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No.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 06:52 PM
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Stellar posts. Bookmarked. Thank you.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 06:38 PM
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I've been stating this since the nineties so I can only guess it's multiple people coming to the same conclusions. Feminazi, while offensive, is apropos. So is calling feminism a cult. Great post. I appreciate your insights.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 06:30 PM
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Those are some stunning examples you've provided. You're arguing a distinction without a difference.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 06:25 PM
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/taking+odds Analogous to "I wouldn't bet on that" - due to it's unlikelihood. Jokes are a lot less funny when explained.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 04:18 PM
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I wouldn't take odds on that if I were you.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 04:06 PM
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But by the same publishers who mollycoddle feminists and support misandry across the board.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 03:31 PM
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That's solid. The only thing they missed was feminism's history with the Klan and antipathy towards black males voting and belief in eugenics as well as ties to white supremacy. One needs only quote mainstream feminists of every era to make it clear that it's always been a hate movement.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 03:15 PM
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You're all over the place here. You think she should get some punishment, more than what she got but still be able to teach children despite being too immature to do so. She was unprofessional and used her position to get something that she wanted. She went into the profession knowing the deal, having to read and sign all the rules including to tell when they believe children are being abused - then abuses a child and betrays the trust that the system, the kids, the parents all had in her. She a…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 02:45 PM
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It directly affects homeless men - which is a disaffected group that concerns us. Homelessness disproportionately affects men globally.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 10:57 AM
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Well we know equality is antithetical to feminism. I love how Salon has gone full bore on the misandry lately.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 10:50 AM
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Thanks!
/r/MensRights09/06/14 10:35 AM
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I'm getting a 404 error. This is worthy stuff so if you've got a working link I'd love to read it. Edited to add: Looks like they're changing their website around - the link I got to the pdf is this one: https://d1qkyo3pi1c9bx.cloudfront.net/00028B1B-B0DB-4FCD-A991-219527535DAB/1b1293ef-1524-4f2c-b148-91db11379d11.pdf
/r/MensRights09/06/14 10:10 AM
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"Prosecutors would not say Stewart was innocent, but rather that their case against him could not be proved before a jury." Yeah, of course because heaven forbid anyone be tried for a false accusation - or any prosecutor be put up on charges for misconduct.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 10:07 AM
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Wow, that's really fucked up. Makes me sad. Edited to add: Gotta love the obfuscation and double speak here: http://www.ministryoftofu.com/2012/07/photos-guangzhou-sets-concrete-spikes-under-bridges-to-drive-away-homeless-people/ I'm reminded of the tank traps in some WoT maps.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 10:02 AM
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Oh? So you did read up on those doctrines? You know who those feminists are? You know about feminism's history with the Klan? Edited to add: I guess that means no. What a surprise.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 09:54 AM
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Your understanding of the word bigot leaves much to be desired. At no point have I suggested something that disadvantaged one sex to the advantage of the other nor have I suggested that things not be equal. At no point have I considered men or women as anything but equals. However, to feminists that is inherently unacceptable. I could care less if you stand apart from me. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about on any level - and that refusal to educate yourself makes you and all your …
/r/MensRights09/06/14 09:52 AM
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"Don't educate me I know everything already".
/r/MensRights09/06/14 09:39 AM
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I have never not admitted what I said. I stand behind it. As I said as soon as something similar becomes available for men I would also push for that. Can you indicate where I didn't say it should be equal? That has more to do with not having unwanted pregnancies than men's rights although it ties into it indirectly. I don't expect everyone to agree with my analysis. However, it does solve the problem of unwanted pregnancy at as close to 100 percent as is reasonably possible. Like everything, th…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 09:37 AM
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i would like to take the time to remind you of this conversation and how you've refused to educate yourself and instead went on attack mode: Me: "Their entire movement is disingenuous. What, pray tell, have MHRAs done to disenfranchise women? Have they created doctrines such as Primary Aggressor, Tender Years, the Duluth Model ad nauseum? No. Quit trying to make it look like there's an equivalency there - there isn't." http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/27lpnl/how_can_we_work_to_end_the…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 09:29 AM
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Of course you agree - you made the assertion. You've already privileged the lives of women over men.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 09:16 AM
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Right, because pulling fire alarms and claiming Warren Farrell supports incest is totally rational, and feminism is nothing if not filled with rational actors. O rly? No feminists came down on RadFemHub. Feminists do their very best to ignore the fact that their transexclusionary element is far more than a tiny splinter group. I really love that you changed my position from all pregnancies should be decided upon to women should only be acted upon. It certainly underscores both your veracity and …
/r/MensRights09/06/14 09:15 AM
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That male privilege.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 08:58 AM
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I'm going to disagree. She should get a sex offender status because it ensures she doesn't get to work with kids in any job where she would be unsupervised with them. She can sling coffee or whatever all she likes but sex offenders don't continue to work in schools. Without that she won't be barred from employment with students again and doing the same thing. IF you don't have the maturity at 22 not to fuck a 17 year old that you supervise you don't have the maturity to work in a school setting.…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 08:51 AM
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No, you support rape all by your lonesome. It has nothing to do with disagreement. You're literally asking for a physiological double standard. Fact: raped women often still lubricate - a symptom of arousal, they also sometimes orgasm. Fact: men and boys don't have complete control over their penises and they often react to stimuli differently. Fear itself can cause an erection. You do support rape - but you're also a moron.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 08:39 AM
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At best you could consider it sexual harrassment. You're still giving her a pass.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 08:34 AM
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lol pot, kettle. Nicely done.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:52 AM
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So pointing out feminism's treatment of victims is laughing at them? You still haven't done anything that supports your assertions.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:51 AM
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Because depo is the same thing as "sterilization". It's only feminists that have supported eugenics. Something you'd know if you actually read anything.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:48 AM
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Says the useful idiot from AMR. I can't say I'm offended, but I am amused.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:43 AM
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So no argument supporting your assertion then? Some particularly vicious and nasty people do laugh as victims. That is the sort of thing Elam has done. That is why he is reviled. No, wrong. Spin again.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:42 AM
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Hardly. We force vaccinations, we force fluoridization of water. Depo would be, and generally is, thought of as vaccination against unwanted pregnancies. I don't see the outrage. I think it's ridiculous. Because vasectomies aren't reversible. When there's an equivalent for depo for men you can rest assured I'll advocate for that as well for the same age group. I'm happy for you that you're vastly more outraged at sane solutions than in anything feminists have actually done though. It continues t…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:39 AM
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Yet, no one gave Ferrell the time of day - for decades. I don't think it's unwinnable but it's a huge uphill battle. Until people stop laughing at male victims and at the idea of men's rights there's a hard road to hoe. If it only took talking rationally and calmly then we'd never have gotten to the state of inequality we have now.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:32 AM
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We force medical procedures of the same type on people all the time. Yep because I'm totally arguing for disenfranchising women. Except I'm not. But hey, enjoy your life filled with false equivalencies and making more shitposts.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:28 AM
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Ah, now there's the level of mendacity and intellectual dishonesty I expect from a feminist.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:25 AM
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Would society be better off without unloved children? Do we, as a society, not make choices like that all the time? How, exactly, is this a heinous concept? To be quite clear I'd argue this no matter which sex could have children. The difference being that I'm for fairness, not disadvantaging the other sex unlike the other team. Is feminism not fact free? Does it not deliberately skew history? Does it not have a history of palling up with the Klan, with the Temperance movement, with gerry-riggin…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:15 AM
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The Stonewall Riot, perhaps you've heard of it? Similar riots across the US? Maybe you're familiar with the activities of Act Up? White Night? I don't mean to belittle you, but I'm not sure how you've come to this conclusion with what appears to be zero evidence. You've not shown that the IRA were unsuccessful. Nor can one reasonably state that either the PLO or Hamas have been particularly unsuccessful. Certainly not all terrorists (although state terrorism is particularly successful) are succe…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:10 AM
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Yes, I'm toxic because I bothered to educate myself before forming an opinion. Surely the world needs more toxic people then. Today I learned facts are hateful garbage. Clearly it's far too hard to research anything and vastly better to make judgments based on arguments you pulled out of your ass.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 11:52 PM
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You are. Social change happens on a number of levels. It took white progressive kids getting murdered, black folks hosed down and having dogs sicced on them, a variety of black spokesmen, blacks serving in an unjust war while being disenfranchised, the Watts riots and much much more. As someone upthread stated it takes the realization for those against change to realize that change will happen - violently or non-violently and you've got a choice which one is going to happen. Eliminate non-violen…
/r/MensRights08/06/14 11:49 PM
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Says the low effort troll. Thanks for playing!
/r/MensRights08/06/14 11:41 PM
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Says internationally renowned expert in progressive change Good_Vole who singlehandedly fought the civil rights struggle. Could you possibly be more arrogant? You're pretending that the Black Panthers and Malcolm X had a net effect of zero on the population. Hardly worth an entire FBI program to assassinate, smear and eliminate them then isn't it?
/r/MensRights08/06/14 11:36 PM
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I really can't agree TPP. This might be helpful to someone over the age of 25 but most people don't have a clue what it is they want until that point. Plus vasectomies are forever.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 11:21 PM
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Has your reading comprehension gone to shit? Go re-read my past posts. I'm out.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 10:54 PM
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I don't see anyone that should be actively punished except for a society that is struggling to define rape while also prosecute it as one of the most heinous crimes. Struggling to define rape as anything a woman finds undesirable, even after the fact, while plainly ignoring the rapes occurring to anyone else. Glad you proved there's no rape culture though.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 10:53 PM
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Did you even read the last three paragraphs? If you want to advocate for Cathy Young, that's fine but don't fail to acknowledge what she says - which is to undercut men's rights and men's rights advocates. This, to me, is where you seem to be getting into the more feels than reals area. Please do not just reference other people's opinions. That's the feminist tactic. I wasn't. I referenced the controversy. Period. You want to impute any other motive on my part then that's your problem.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 10:51 PM
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Nope. Downvoted.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 10:45 PM
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*there. Agreed.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 10:43 PM
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In my opinion until men have birth control girls reaching pubescence should have to take depo shots or norplant until it is agreed by both parties that a child is desired - which would need to be in writing.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 10:40 PM
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Says the low effort troll who refuses to educate themselves.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 10:38 PM
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I'm not advocating the point - I'm pointing out where the controversy stems from. Here's the thing - in the article she both admits where there are problems and then subsequently undercuts them and argues that there shouldn't be single gendered equality movements. Yet nowhere does she advocate the disbandment of feminism. I can see exactly where Lobstermansunion is coming from and it's a logical extrapolation.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 10:33 PM
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Without an adjudication of guilt in a court of law - this is yet again a trial in the court of public opinion. The same court that refuses to acknowledge that women have agency or accountability and places the entirety of those burdens on men. Which, taken to its logical conclusion, means that women shouldn't be able to vote or take a job since they're incapable of doing anything other than be the submissive robots of a "patriarch".
/r/MensRights08/06/14 10:31 PM
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Anecdotal evidence does not trump the overwhelming amount of misandry spewing forth from the media, nor does it trump the vast array of legislation pointed at disadvantaging men and boys for women's benefit. Your definition is not correct because it doesn't take into account what feminism does. All feminists advocating for actual equality - and working in men's best interests are few and far between. I cannot in good conscience even consider them feminists since feminism's outcomes have been abo…
/r/MensRights08/06/14 10:27 PM
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Yet another false equivalency. You're going to call actual legislation feminists passed as propaganda now? A simple discussion is one that's informed. Period. You've made any number of false equivalencies in order to claim both sides are like the other without a shred of evidence or even an attempt at educating yourself.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 10:11 PM
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Nice handwaving away of the facts. Women get convicted less even when guilty and serve less time. A feminist supported her defense. Feminists in Canada support women killing men in "self-defense" when the men have done nothing to the woman short of her word. you need to do that for every single case the human race has decided in advance, based purely on tribal identification. You mean like your team claiming Rodger was an MHRA? Because that is exactly what your team does.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 10:06 PM
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Various people define feminism for themselves differently. That's immaterial. Feminism is what it does - and what it does is serve upper and middle class white women's interests at the exclusion of all others. That's the only objective yardstick you can use. IF you aren't familiar with them then what the hell are you doing making a post? Quite frankly you come across as a concern troll. Now go learn something before you start your false equivalency bandwagon up again.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 10:02 PM
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Have you bothered to read the information in the side bar? No. Have you bothered to read up on the Duluth Model, primary aggressor laws, family law and the Tender Years doctrine and on the fallout from the Dear Colleague letter? No. Have you bothered looking up how feminism has strong links to both eugenics and the Klan? No. How feminists have always been about controlling others since their inception as whole partners in the Temperance movement? No. You present an opinion without even doing the…
/r/MensRights08/06/14 09:57 PM
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http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2013/07/31/who-hurting-men-rights-movement/HmoV7KuZdAMk9q8HSICglO/story.html Referenced here: http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/cant-we-all-just-get-along/
/r/MensRights08/06/14 09:48 PM
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Now we can state unequivocally that AFALT.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 09:42 PM
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Exactly - they're the violent bigots. Better they show themselves.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 09:42 PM
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NBC lost it's shit over a woman being second in command of the Enterprise Cite? Evidence that it was widespread? women were only included in the civil rights act as an attempt to sabotage it. I'll need a citation for this. However, this type of argument was also used by feminists against the rights of black men to vote. We've also seen this argument used by members of the LGBT contingent to exclude Transfolks, not due necessarily to bigotry (unlike the case with feminists) but due to the fact th…
/r/MensRights08/06/14 09:01 PM
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It will never happen. The difference is that they've got an actual history with the Klan and have worked diligently to ensure men's issues are never addressed and furthermore to disadvantage men and anyone else that isn't an upper to middle class white woman. It's utterly unhelpful for us to try to engage when we should be showing the world what they are - which they're all too willing to do. You cannot have a cult based on women now and forever being victims and ask it to get along with a movem…
/r/MensRights08/06/14 08:52 PM
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In other words you'd rather subscribe to a false equivalency than to bother yourself with facts. Good to know.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 08:49 PM
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It isn't interesting. One needs only look at what they do. Their entire movement is disingenuous. What, pray tell, have MHRAs done to disenfranchise women? Have they created doctrines such as Primary Aggressor, Tender Years, the Duluth Model ad nauseum? No. Quit trying to make it look like there's an equivalency there - there isn't.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 08:47 PM
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Women consistently serve less time when they are convicted and they're rarely convicted regardless. The Jodi Arias case is open and shut and yet there was a mistrial. Let's not forget the feminist that supported her defense. Or that Canada has made it open season on males thanks not only to politicians but their Supreme Court.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 08:44 PM
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And women were openly mocked in politics and media No. I was around at that time and that's fundamentally horseshit. AMR is a shining beacon of light am I right?
/r/MensRights08/06/14 08:42 PM
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Ooh dat sarcasm. :)
/r/MensRights08/06/14 08:38 PM
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This deserves many more upvotes. Thank you.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 08:36 PM
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"Here's my issue: In almost all places in the world we need a lot more feminism." Then you've bought into that cult's lies. "men are more oppressed, which is just clearly not true " Horseshit.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 08:35 PM
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I'm not sure why you expect the Klan to be pals with the NAACP. That's what you're asking. All we can do is unmask them and show everyone what a completely disingenuous hate movement they really are.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 08:33 PM
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Unless men start fighting back and using the tools given to them - the cause is lost. People seem to forget who we're dealing with.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 05:59 PM
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We'd need to have enough people on the ground to keep anyone from entering. A sit-in essentially.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 05:50 PM
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Because here, only dollars count. Not people.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 05:45 PM
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That's because I was lazy and didn't delineate things properly. One - schools are doing their level best to keep from getting sued - and that means policies that look like they're addressing something but actually don't do anything of value. Two - education has largely become feminized by eliminating recess and eliminating the kinds of classes boys actually like- particularly hands-on technical ones. Three- there's been a number of articles pointing out that boys aren't doing very well because t…
/r/MensRights04/06/14 05:45 AM
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Even if 100 percent of politicians were women and 100 percent of CEOs were women they'd still be "oppressed".
/r/MensRights04/06/14 02:23 AM
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:(
/r/MensRights04/06/14 02:23 AM
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Hey Pierce, what do you suggest we do in order to get this woman's bigotry more spread - then get her fired. Serious question.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 01:43 AM
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Well here's the thing - for women it's still an option. Men don't get an option, they get told what to do - because that's what being in the military is like.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 01:35 AM
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Which is what they want you to believe. Women have always had it better than feminists have claimed they have had. I'm all for equality. That's why I'm not a feminist. My view on what few good things they've done is that a broken clock is right twice a day. You can find the good in anything if you look hard enough.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 01:34 AM
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Males are different in this case, they don't have anywhere near the support network and resources thrown at them. FTFY
/r/MensRights04/06/14 01:31 AM
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Here's the thing - she's giving transmen a pussy pass. If that's not bigotry all the way around nothing is. As a rainbow person myself I can understand wanting to hobnob with other queers and trans folks because, frankly, it's easier. That still doesn't excuse her implied transmen aren't men and cis men are all rapist scum bigotry.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 01:30 AM
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Well considering how the Klan and feminism have a history of being bed buddies that's hardly surprising. I'm sure she and Rebecca Latimer Felton would have gotten along famously. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Latimer_Felton http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2014/06/03/meet-rebecca-latimer-felton-georgias-first-female-senator/ You may enjoy the backpedaling and justification in the latter article - because feminism has never been about disenfranchising non-whites and the poor. Nooo. Remember …
/r/MensRights04/06/14 01:27 AM
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You're not very smart - and you're certainly not well informed. Enjoy your ignominy and downvotes. Also thanks for pointing out that feminists are inherently racist. I can never get enough corroboration from your team. Oh and that bit about feminism not out to get men? Complete and utter lies. Now prove there's a patriarchy moron. You fucking weak sacks of shit. Says the professional victim and rape apologist.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 01:24 AM
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I'd argue it's more due to the fact that K-12 education is predominantly female run and they love zero tolerance policies. Because those totes stop school shootings unlike having, you know, security guards. Just like the TSA is a bandage on a gaping wound.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 10:42 PM
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No, deliberately disadvantaging one sex for the sake of yours is bigotry and bigotry is hate.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 10:04 PM
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A couple things before I'm out. They created the rape hysteria we now have out of whole cloth. All their statistics are manipulated and they use rape and "rape culture" as an excuse to silence anyone that's not a feminist. There is no great movement towards wearing burqas so that's horseshit. Like I said earlier all of this is just a smokescreen for bigotry. I'd argue that they fought for rape shield laws in order to get more men in prison rather than to fight an injustice.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 08:56 PM
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I really tried sympathizing with your cause a few of times, but every time, I see your true colors shining through. That's code for "I was looking for something that would confirm my pre-conceived notions and as soon as I was able to make a strawman argument for it I left in disgust". IF feminism wasn't hell-bent on disenfranchising men and boys and ensuring their issues didn't get addressed half our issues would be gone. It's a hate movement and nothing more.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 08:43 PM
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Yeah, the thing where you don't recognize a group who's philosophy is "women are overgrown spoiled children You just defined your group to a T. The only difference is the end of the sentence in your case is "that must be catered to at all times and treated like a pathetic victim."
/r/MensRights03/06/14 08:37 PM
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Thanks! Toodles!
/r/MensRights03/06/14 08:16 PM
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Your reading comprehension leaves something to be desired.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 08:07 PM
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All of which presupposes that rape shield laws don't exist and literally nothing has changed in 60 years. Like "the patriarchy" it's a smokescreen to hate men - and that's all it is. Crime happens - you deal with it like everyone else does. I've argued repeatedly that self-defense should be taught in K-12. Accepting reality != rape culture.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 07:59 PM
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Because I totes have issues with women voting and with birth control and not with the inherent misandry, classism and racism which is a part of that movement. You caught me!
/r/MensRights03/06/14 07:27 PM
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Good point.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 07:23 PM
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You're an idiot.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 07:22 PM
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Please don't hand our enemies a victory. They'll just get the anti-gun nuts involved too. That's the last thing we need.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 07:11 PM
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Is Robin Morgan an extremist? Is Gloria Steinem an extremist? Is Margaret Sanger an extremist? Even if you consider Dworkin an extremist you cannot deny her impact on mainstream feminism. Marcotte? Every single feminist pundit posting on the internet? That's the mainstream. There's no direct correlation to MHRAs and calling TRP or anything else in the manosphere the same as MHRAS is literally the same thing as equating "a woman's way of knowing" with academic feminism. That's how unbelievably di…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 07:08 PM
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Quote-mining the worst of redpill to comment on mensrights is about as valid as digging into the worst depths of tumblr to comment on modern feminism as it's presented in academia. digging into the worst depths of tumblr to comment on modern feminism as it's presented in academia. You: "People from this subreddit do exactly that ALL THE TIME." If I was referencing a tumblr feminist you'd have a point. I'm not. You cannot argue that people like Steinem, Morgan, Dworkin, Sanger ad nauseum are not …
/r/MensRights03/06/14 07:02 PM
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You know - that's about as disingenuous as you can get. You don't have to go to Tumblr to see that feminism is doing a bang up job of being a hate movement all by its lonesome.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 07:00 PM
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I am categorically not agreeing with you. I am stating feminism is and of itself an extremist movement.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 06:55 PM
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I don't think there is anything other than "extremist" feminists. Their argument, of course, is that there are "feminisms" and they can't be held accountable for literally anything ever (both as part of their horseshit belief in "the patriarchy" and the weaseling I'm talking about). Any group that actively works to silence, suppress and other another group and ensure their issues never get funded is a hate group. So no.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 06:44 PM
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Sorry, I thought I was responding to the concealed carry comment. It doesn't make sense at all to you, no. :)
/r/MensRights03/06/14 06:41 PM
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I wonder if She-Ra knows about this.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 06:33 PM
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As opposed to feminism which is an actual hate group.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 06:32 PM
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No, that's why they have to invent one - that and to silence anyone off message.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 06:31 PM
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The SPLC is themselves allied with hate movements like trans-exclusionary feminism. They have zero high ground and certainly nothing that could be construed as moral authority.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 06:30 PM
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Even if that were so, it still wouldn't exist since literally no one thinks rape is good. It's just one more way to hate on half of humanity, because hate is all they have.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 06:03 PM
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Considering you only have to look at the legislation they've pushed - a kid could be an expert on whether feminism is a hate movement.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 05:54 PM
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If you'd quoted modern feminism as presented by the media and by the average feminist you'd have a point. As it stands you don't.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 05:52 PM
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Feminsts - fact free fanatics since the 1800s.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 05:46 PM
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This.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 05:45 PM
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You people wouldn't know honesty if it bitch-slapped you.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 05:44 PM
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And hand those idiots on the other team a victory? Please no.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 05:41 PM
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How is it important for women? What does a cult that insists that women have no agency and have always been "oppressed" and always will be doing for women other than holding them back from becoming whole, fulfilled, responsible adults? I'm completely serious. Have a look at this and the qualities of feminism and tick the boxes yourself:http://www.csj.org/infoserv_cult101/checklis.htm
/r/MensRights03/06/14 08:52 AM
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That's some of them certainly but the real reasons not to marry is due to the insane laws.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 07:32 AM
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And for this as a society we should stop putting women on a pedestal. Having a romantic partner isn't "success". IT might help you level up your life but it's just as likely to send you into a tailspin.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 07:29 AM
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It's part of feminism - and feminism is a cult.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:51 AM
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In no way will it be better. Clearly you haven't ever worked for a woman or seen the stats. Look at that ban bossy nonsense. It's an excuse to handwave away the fact that women typically act horribly in positions of power. It's not that "men can't take it" it's more that women can't stand working for them due to the drama.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:48 AM
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Oh, the irony. Men are supposed to stop rape (with the strong implication of physically), men are supposed to be the protectors, men are just supposed to sit there and take the physical abuse when it happens to them but we're too busy telling women what they can do with their bodies. Clueless, idiotic, self-loathing moron is that author.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:46 AM
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Yes. Next question?
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:43 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAOxY_nHdew
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:36 AM
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Clearly you're a moron that's spent not even an hour in divorce court. There are already manosphere clowns doing what you advocate. Go create your own sub, you'll be a lot happier there. We aren't buying your feminism-lite horseshit.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:32 AM
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I can't wait til it's 2 in 1 or 3 in 1.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:24 AM
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Your reading comprehension, like your logic, is poor. Go re-read the thread and re-read my previous comment. That's the thirtieth time some ignoramus has said that since I've returned to reddit. The story behind the nick is funny but I don't really expect you to care unless you visit SRSS.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:55 AM
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Only men are forced into that role. Socially and legally.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:49 AM
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Hur hur. Did you think up that yourself or did you have help? "Male sexual entitlement". Please.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:44 AM
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If he lives in CA the likelihood of this happening is high.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:43 AM
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Ouch.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:42 AM
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Well, that's another comedian that's lost my money.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:41 AM
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I like you blue but I can't upvote this.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:40 AM
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I need feminism because all men aren't imprisoned yet.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:39 AM
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You're not doing a very good job of it. Go read the material in the sidebar.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:38 AM
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If you're going to quote her keep in mind she wrote this as well: "Yet another mass shooting targeting females again. Six young women dead. The dude was an MRA. The sex of the injured have not been mentioned, but it is assumed they will be mainly young women too (the link to the wiki page included at the end)" Let's not give her traffic, imgur the site and then debunk the women being more killed because it's garbage.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:34 AM
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Paytriarchy - men's position to women.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:34 AM
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I am stealing this. Hope you don't mind.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:33 AM
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Thanks!
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:32 AM
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I guess capital letters don't exist in your world. You might also think about who wrote what in this thread.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:32 AM
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Today I learned Valerie Solanas was a beauty salon. The more you know!
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:15 AM
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And people only care because they're women. If those pictures were of men they'd never be published and if they were it would still be posted with spin that made it look like women were the victims. There is zero empathy for male suffering or male causes. There are vastly more women disenfranchising men in India - and far more men are affected by these terrible laws than the tiny few committing violence against women. When it's men - crickets.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 12:31 AM
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You haven't responded to my point. You let me know when you get around to answering it.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 12:02 AM
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Oh, the irony. Feminism is built on lies. "Yes, the fact that we feminists have been successful enough that now a few women are in positions of power is totally evidence that this feminism thing is hurting men and must be stopped." Wow, defending members of the 1 percent. Nicely done. Today I learned having more Sheryl Sandbergs is infinitely more important than any issue that men face. Feminism is hurting men every day, not that you care, because you're not affected. That's true privilege. You …
/r/MensRights02/06/14 11:55 PM
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If you're going to quote her keep in mind she wrote this as well: "Yet another mass shooting targeting females again. Six young women dead. The dude was an MRA. The sex of the injured have not been mentioned, but it is assumed they will be mainly young women too (the link to the wiki page included at the end)" Let's not give her traffic, imgur the site and then debunk the women being more killed because it's garbage.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 11:37 PM
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Ok, then come up with an alternative that explains the issue.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 11:25 PM
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Screw you! #YesAllCats ! Mewsogynist!
/r/MensRights02/06/14 11:17 PM
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Look, you had nothing to say and continue to do so. You earned it all by your lonesome.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 10:02 PM
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If you stand up for any men anywhere you're not going to make many friends. India is fucked for men and you've chosen to buy into half of their population's problems without looking into the other half and giving them the benefit of the doubt based on their gender.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 10:00 PM
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It seems to me this belongs in TIA.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 10:29 AM
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Fix your sarcasm detector. Also the laws there are woefully against men at this point.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 10:12 AM
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It's hardly a huge difference.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 10:10 AM
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Feminists have total control legislation-wise in India. No idea about South Korea and Taiwan. Most interesting to me is that Spain isn't accounted for - which after the feminists took over became a hellhole for men. Very surprised at the score for Sweden given its long and screwed up history with ROKS and other feminist extremists including "men taking up too much room on the bus" horseshit.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 09:17 AM
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In the country that denies men can be raped and is slanted so far legally to support women it makes the US like a paradise for men? Might want to rethink that.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 09:11 AM
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Even the highest rate for men is demonstrably smaller than that of women's.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 09:08 AM
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I hope someone with a bunch of facts can bring this forward.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 09:04 AM
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That was my cunning plan. Frankly when all one side is supposition and assertions - and no evidence whatsoever for their claims I can't be bothered to argue against it methodically. The day they can prove "the patriarchy" exists then I'll consider spending more time disproving their straw men. Luckily for me that day will never come.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 08:59 AM
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I think every feminist advocating lessening the burden of proof and claiming that false rape accusations are a non-issue should have to go to a maximum security prison for at least a year.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 08:54 AM
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I love how when you point out how snugly in bed together the Klan and feminism has been that their team denies it and throws a gasket. Every time. It's always been a hate movement - from day one.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 08:49 AM
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Because no one does significant time for raping a man or boy. Concern trolling?
/r/MensRights02/06/14 08:48 AM
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Most of the people I saw sticking up for her were the usual gynocentrists.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 08:46 AM
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Exactly. We should give awards like the Golden Raspberry was for terrible movies to the CDC and Mary P Koss for making the pain of men invisible.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 08:40 AM
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Did you know you can breathe through your nose? The things you learn!
/r/MensRights02/06/14 08:36 AM
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It's because they want exactly zero attention paid to any plight that isn't theirs. They consider all gender-based issues exclusively their domain. Imagine all feminists as members of AMR and you'll have the picture.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 08:34 AM
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I haven't seen the porn in question but I dated someone into "noncon" porn and all that shit was fake like the "plots" of 99.9 percent of porn. I mean those guys on the horribly-named Tranny Surprise site don't start sucking right off the bat if it's a "surprise". Usually that's an excuse to start beating a transwoman to death.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 08:31 AM
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Enjoy the downboat you so richly deserve for this article.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 08:22 AM
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We have an inordinate amount of concern trolls. The difference is that a hate movement requires a complete subjugation to dogma. There is no room for dissent - or for anyone else to have issues outside those approved by the higher ups.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 02:57 AM
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It wasn't an argument, it was a statement of fact.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 02:54 AM
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I know. You have my sympathy.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 01:52 AM
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There's certainly no evidence that it isn't. Why do you want me to show an MHRA theory that stands up to reality? We can both play the same game.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 01:51 AM
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An active father cannot be the norm when so many men, even those with custody and visitation rights cannot see their children - or are effectively babysitters a couple times a month. I don't care at all what haters think. Just that we shut them down.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 01:49 AM
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May it come quickly. The only other thing I can say is that the counselors at Family Court Services are supposed to listen to the will of the child even before that. There is a chance you could get her visitation reduced - if she hasn't got the girls scared or poisoned to the point where they're protecting her.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 01:39 AM
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The easy way to attack appeal to gender is to shove it right in their face and say "you're not a man, how could you ever understand". Then tell her how privileged she is and how she will, even if she's an out of control addict still have more likelihood to hold on to children no matter how abusive she is. That she can deny visitation and still force the father to pay. Because clearly that's not privilege.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 01:35 AM
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No citation only assertion. No evidence just bias towards women. Which means it is sexism. Here's the thing - there are studies that show that men and women both like women better. And that it is built-in. So if there is a socialization bias, then it affects women positively. Nothing amuses me more than those who would cry a river over women in the oppressor class whilst ignoring the status of both men and women in the lower classes. And in those classes women universally do better.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 01:29 AM
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And their point, like all of feminist thought, is utter horseshit.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 10:03 PM
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ignatiusloyola has it covered. I want to address this: "Which, by the way, is partially due to the fact that a working woman is still expected to cook, clean and take care of the kids." This claim requires three things to be true - one that women have no agency, and two that men not work longer hours which we all know they do and three that men not do more physical work on average than women do - which again we know isn't true. You are indeed a bigot. This has nothing to do with facts because th…
/r/MensRights01/06/14 09:53 PM
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It's a war against the other parent - and all one side cares about is winning. I'd love to see a study of who does this more. Children are generally the chess pieces in any divorce unfortunately. "Best interests of the child" be damned. Take note that nothing is ever done to custodial parents (the vast majority of whom are mothers) who deny custody while jail time will be pursued should someone fall behind in their payments - whether they can actually afford to pay them or not.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 09:31 PM
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You don't think underscoring how ridiculous feminism is helps break the overall jerk? TO me this has got to be one of the least threatening ways to get people to re-evaluate how they think about these things.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 09:38 AM
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I don't think any of us can stand this sub being hyper serious all the time. We don't need more people at /r/suicidewatch except as counselors.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 09:37 AM
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It is in the nature of mammals to establish a pecking order. I was responding to your hypothetical feminist.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 09:30 AM
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It can't come soon enough.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 09:28 AM
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"Women are not oppressed, and have never been in my lifetime - or yours". "Then you're lying". "It's not my job to do your research for you".
/r/MensRights01/06/14 09:21 AM
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Shit I wanna go to Europe for two weeks. I've seen this behavior before - and while it's not exclusively a behavior mothers do, in my experience and those of the lawyers I've talked to more mothers do this. Anecdotal I know.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 09:16 AM
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"Your own world view" "Homosexuality is a choice". "Only straight people should marry". Do you really want to be one of those people? Because those people suck.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 09:10 AM
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Thank you.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 09:09 AM
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Alienating lgbt folks isn't really a smart idea and makes our team look like the bigots they accuse us of being. Let them be the anti-trans bigots. They've got their plate full with that already.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 09:08 AM
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Take it to your college. It would be nice to see men's actual assaults addressed over the many false accusations routinely turned in. And go to law enforcement.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 09:03 AM
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Wow, now that is privilege. Majority suicide, education gaps at both the K-12 and college levels, false rape accusations and the fallout from the Dear Colleague letter, custody and visitation issues, the gendering of domestic violence and rape, a completely unbalanced amount of social spending in order to create a professional victim class - all spurious to you. Must be nice to be one of the privileged classes and never have to face any real hardship. Funny that you want to play that game becaus…
/r/MensRights01/06/14 08:50 AM
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I only know one person that talks about feminarchy seriously and it would be hilarious if you're her. That wasn't the HuffPo piece I was talking about at all, but OK. I know that LGBT isn't the most cohesive group ever but I carry no grudge against any group within it. Because misogyny is an over-used buzzword that has become meaningless and gay male misogyny effectively comes down to "gay men refuse to orbit around straight white middle class women". "You can't just assert that our feminist all…
/r/MensRights01/06/14 08:36 AM
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Today I learned that caring about equality for others was something that people don't do. I also learned there was no such thing as a Kinsey scale and that no lesbian, trans* or intersexed people existed either "some cunt-posessed banshee feels entitled to take up space in your bar?" Well given that HuffPo not so long ago scolded gay men for acting like gay men in gay male spaces I'm not surprised at this little outburst. After all if women aren't catered to in every place on the globe, at all t…
/r/MensRights01/06/14 07:31 AM
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Wow, you really aren't very smart. I'm disappointed. "Kleptocratic colonial capitalism" huh? Are you sure you couldn't get any more hard C sounds in there somewhere? As someone that reads Zinn and Chomsky and buys into much of what they say I find you to be a parody. lol "patriarchal gender roles" too cute! Today I learned that being bigoted towards one sex is a-ok as long as it's the right sex. As a queer myself I find your comment utterly ridiculous. No one is retarded enough to call black fol…
/r/MensRights01/06/14 06:14 AM
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Misogyny don't real. Please try again. Beep beep. And now that you're infuriated let me point out to you that PUA has about as much to do with MHRAs as "a woman's way of knowing" has to do with academic feminism. Today I learned that misogyny is when someone kills 6 people but the only people that matter are women. But then we knew that already. That's the face of gynocentrism. And gynocentrism is the reason Rodger killed. Because he couldn't find it within himself to love himself, he needed a w…
/r/MensRights01/06/14 05:55 AM
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Usually when I point out to someone all the myriad ways feminism isn't at all about equality they're horrified. Anyone with empathy that sees a boy saddled with having to pay his rapist child support will toss their cookies. There are a lot of people including Christina Hoff-Sommers I don't consider to be feminists but that's how they identify themselves for whatever odd reason. Feminism has almost exclusively negative baggage - and no self-respecting male should consider themselves one.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 05:49 AM
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Where do we see judgements on promiscuity? From tradcons and other women exclusively. "Slut shaming" isn't something men, as a group, do.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 05:08 AM
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I'm a wee bit further to the left of New Dealers. I don't believe in Social Security but an actual safety net. I believe that there's no reason for poverty in a rich nation and no room for a prison-industrial complex (that nearly exclusively affects men). Not that you asked, or frankly care because you're too busy erecting a straw man. [Edited to add: Those wacky scandanavian capitalist states? Either you have no clue what capitalism is or you're an idiot. Some of those states are so out of whac…
/r/MensRights01/06/14 05:04 AM
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There is a tremendous difference between feminism and the "left wing gay movement". LGBT people are still being beaten and murdered for who they are - particularly transwomen. That is a serious problem. There is nothing like it that feminism has to address and why to maintain its relevance it continually tries to co-opt and ride the coat-tails of the LGBT movement.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 02:57 AM
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Watch Jodi Arias bat her lashes some more.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 02:42 AM
1

Someone knows bupkis about feminism.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 02:41 AM
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You're going to need a criminal lawyer if she presses charges. My only piece of advice is to get the absolute best you can afford. CA hates men. Hates, hates, hates them.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 02:40 AM
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This is the same tactic they've been using successfully against CAFE and others in Canada.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 02:36 AM
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Yes, we've needed it for 30 fucking years. Let's hope we don't have to wait another 30.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 02:33 AM
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I'm super far-left (though likely not in comparison to that of Scandanavia) and feminism is incompatible with anti-racism and class since it discounts both for the benefit of upper and middle class white women. It denigrates both of those struggles by elevating sex above class, and above racial issues. It cynically rides the coat-tails of LGBT issues whilst simultaneously making transmen honorary women and at best a confrontational stance towards transwomen. But hey, those white guys that are ho…
/r/MensRights01/06/14 02:32 AM
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She identifies as a feminist. What she values and what she says in this video certainly belie that but that's her choice of identity.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 02:10 AM
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I will stand by anyone's right to protest, even when it's completely wrong-headed like this but this is team-fire alarms, team-underhanded, team-manipulation we're talking about here.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 02:08 AM
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This should be mandatory viewing not only in sex ed but at the beginning of every "gender studies" class.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 01:39 AM
1

Shh! Women do not now and have never had agency! It was bred out of them by patriarchs!
/r/MensRights01/06/14 01:14 AM
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bigoted utterly intolerant of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own. You made up a bunch of lies about how men jumped into careers which then, by magic, got higher paid because they were male dominated without a shred of documentation. All of which is an out and out falsehood. You continue to cling to this "women are victims" narrative and that there persists a wage gap despite having zero evidence of such. Nor have you cogently argued that women don't choose different jobs, …
/r/MensRights01/06/14 01:00 AM
1

Yup burying your head in the sand is always the best policy.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 12:27 AM
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Cut back to part time well before serving her the papers.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 12:26 AM
1

If I was dating someone that relied solely on what mainstream society thinks that dating cycle would be over.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 12:25 AM
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I think exiting is the only sane strategy. Let some other schmuck try to instill empathy in her. If it's not there innately and it's not there when the issues are pointed out you're wasting your time on a bigot.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 12:18 AM
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Get out now. Never have sex with her again.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 12:15 AM
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It is. And you can educate her - or you can start saving for an attorney. You mean you haven't lost your kids yet to an abusive wife. She sounds mightily like a candidate for that.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 12:11 AM
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To those dissenting that "this isn't men's rights" then feel free to start a Fathers are awesome group then. Personally I cannot get enough of this stuff. Something needs to counterbalance an entire culture dead-set on crushing us under its jackboots and if it's cute kids with dads then fan-fucking-tastic. :)
/r/MensRights31/05/14 11:45 PM
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I need to read up on Wendy. The name sounds familiar but I'm not placing her. I think you're really on to something with it being an emotional attachment for those that do actually believe in equality. Unfortunately they still see the gleaming city on the hill and not the woman behind the curtain that's always been there. Be that as it may - it benefits us in many ways that they still identify as feminists because that's how they have a draw. The fact that so many feminists are antagonistic towa…
/r/MensRights31/05/14 11:38 PM
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Exactly this. How a black woman could ever identify as a feminist is beyond me. Scraps off the table - not just once due to race but twice for anyone not upper to upper middle class.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 11:30 PM
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For it to be a true one to one correspondence it would require a man lying about the activity where she got convicted. Notice, however, that in every case women are better treated and get less time. Men are guilty, women are misunderstood.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 11:17 PM
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Remember kids that misogyny means not agreeing with a feminist on everything ever and not kowtowing to her every need before she even knows what it is.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 11:14 PM
1

I don't think anyone other than Christina thinks she's a feminist. However, it is only under that label that she can criticize it. If it's a tactical move then more power to her. She has my utmost respect.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 11:03 PM
1

Absolutely. I could not possibly say it better.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 11:02 PM
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Don't let the door hit you on the way out. If you want to take the scraps off of Massa's table you go right ahead.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 10:59 PM
1

I'm sure there were some very nice SS officers somewhere.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 10:58 PM
1

She came in looking for a sanitized version of things and got hit in the face with the ugly truth of feminism and women's behavior. Nothing kept her from just reading the sidebar or picking up a Warren Farrell book. She had no genuine interest if she's going to be offended so easily.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 10:57 PM
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If you make it so obviously toxic and unacceptable they will leave. The civil rights struggle eventually made racism unacceptable. The Klan is a lot smaller now than it had been before that. That's the end game.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 10:54 PM
1

Do you honestly not think that women oppressed men? Like not ever?
/r/MensRights31/05/14 10:52 PM
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Neither Cathy Young (who's wishy-washy) nor Christina Hoff-Sommers are influential - certainly not on feminist thought. Nor does anyone really consider them feminists.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 10:51 PM
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Can you prove any feminism wasn't?
/r/MensRights31/05/14 10:49 PM
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There's enough exclusionary conduct and outright lies dating back to the 1800s that allowing for any anomalous good behavior is tacitly stating the movement is good. It isn't. It wasn't and it will never be.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 10:48 PM
0

They do deserve it. Their entire team is dedicated to minimizing male issues and blaming men for everything bad in the world. They refuse to police themselves. You're basically giving them points for being good little germans. They are bigots. Call a spade a spade. You don't win political battles by worrying about what the other side thinks of you.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 10:45 PM
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And even fewer people are feminists.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 10:42 PM
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The thing is that outside of tradcon circles (which are obviously both men and women) only women do this. They will disingenuously paint it as men or "the patriarchy" (the invisible boogyman). Considering how many benefits and political overlap there is between feminists and tradcons I'm all too happy to see them get bitten in the ass. There's nothing genuine in feminism anyway.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 10:25 PM
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Now you show a feminist theory that stands up to reality. Show how western women are oppressed. Or in any other country where women are "oppressed" but men aren't.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 10:19 PM
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"being an active father is not a Men's Rights issue." i could not disagree more. It's an integral part of how family law disadvantages men for the benefit of women - and how children benefit from having an active father. The majority of people who become MHRAs seem to come from having been screwed or from seeing a loved one screwed in divorce court. I took a long, long break from reddit because of the negativity and inherent misandry. I don't think a dozen posts like this in hundreds to thousand…
/r/MensRights31/05/14 10:03 PM
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Because it isn't in the nature of mammals to install a pecking order. Feels over facts. Feminism- fact-free since the 1800s.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 09:52 PM
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Because intra-sex bullying is vastly more common than inter-sex bullying. That finger-pointing is entirely justified since according to feminists men are guilty of every evil thing ever and women are poor wittle victims in a world they never made.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 09:50 PM
0

Not a fan of red-pill thought but their "hitting the wall" theory is correct and is exactly what you're talking about here.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 09:48 PM
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Why would they when it's all too profitable?
/r/MensRights31/05/14 09:42 PM
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No.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 09:42 PM
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Their view of slut-shaming is anything that disadvantages women having sole selection rights.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 09:40 PM
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If MHRAs were like feminists you'd never stop hearing about short-shaming. And poor-shaming.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 09:39 PM
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These aren't cultural reasons. This is largely lizard-brain stuff going back to the dawn of man. Pleasing men isn't the goal - procreating is. All we are is vessels of genetic material as far as nature is concerned.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 09:37 PM
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It's not a good indicator of monogamy if that's what you're looking for.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 09:33 PM
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That it is exclusively a problem women do to other women in order to establish pecking orders.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 09:28 PM
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Sure - patriarchy theory - doesn't exist and cannot be proven to. Wage gap - provably false. Men and women pick different jobs and women prefer to work part-time and in jobs that provide flexibility - because they have the privilege to do so. www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/01/no-women-don-t-make-less-money-than-men.html Good discussion here: http://womenformen.org/2014/02/01/the-gender-wage-gap-lie/ Women refuse to work in the trades or any other dirty, difficult job - ergo why men are 9…
/r/MensRights31/05/14 09:21 PM
1

Feminist "theories" are best seen as propaganda. Most people once they see the claim of being for "equality" shattered by what feminism does and says have some amount of cognitive dissonance followed by disappointment. Since those theories were never valid in the first place and were only ever a means to attack men I would have to disagree with you.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 09:06 PM
1

Wrong sex. :(
/r/MensRights31/05/14 08:59 PM
1

Of reddit maybe. Of the newspapers no chance.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 08:58 PM
2

Well put!
/r/MensRights31/05/14 08:56 PM
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I don't think the occasional feel good story in a sea of misandry and pain is a bad idea. Frankly I get exhausted by the non-stop negativity and could use a break every now and then. Baby is cool, Dad is cool and the pictures are great. Shouldn't we be celebrating fathers? Children having active fathers is certainly a men's rights issue.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 08:55 PM
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I can and did. Comins said that men can "benefit from the experience" and literally no feminists have said jack about that. Feminists universally state that false rape accusations are a trivial non-problem and that being sent away for thirty years with the likelihood of being raped multiple times, losing your right to vote and permanently being listed as a sex offender (opening yourself up to vigilantism) is nothing compared to rape. Because women know full well they get special treatment and wi…
/r/MensRights31/05/14 11:59 AM
1

Looking forward to this idiot never being able to see his children again.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 11:34 AM
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Love this series. Love how involved Dad is. So much awesome. \m/
/r/MensRights31/05/14 11:28 AM
2

Well hello Rip Van Winkle. Time to go investigate the internet old man!
/r/MensRights31/05/14 11:24 AM
1

Because who cares that the majority of those killed were men, let's show which dead bodies really matter. As if it wasn't enough for feminists to lie and say it's our fault. Why in hell should we provide aid and comfort to our enemies?
/r/MensRights31/05/14 11:21 AM
1

He's a woman-on-a-pedestal feminist anyway. No great loss. I've engaged him at length and it's all the same nonsense and him claiming people are inventing strawmen when he refuses to be held to his own words - thereby deleting them.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 11:13 AM
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There's a huge amount of people that want to believe somewhere women are being violated in some way somewhere at all times. The majority of those people are feminists. The anti-sex feminists and tradcons have been in bed with each other for years and eat this kind of narrative up. Yet another facet of their bigotry.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 11:09 AM
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Thank you. My thoughts exactly.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 09:49 AM
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Which is all of them. That's why I think this whole argument is specious in the extreme.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 09:44 AM
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You don't have to identify yourself to make the arguments. The arguments stand on their own. Then there's "what kind of person thinks fathers have no place in a child's life - feminists. What kind of person thinks it's ok for men to sign up for selective service when women don't have to?" ad nauseum.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 02:20 AM
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"Dear Sir or Madam, will you please do my research for me to prove my bigoted point of view?" Whatever would feminists do if anyone showed women weren't the biggest victims evar.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 02:14 AM
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Then cite it. Ensure that it isn't a job where salaries are negotiated as we all know that women aren't as aggressive in salary negotiations.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 02:09 AM
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There is no gender gap. There is nowhere women are making less than men with the same level of performance and time in service and no study that has fully controlled for variables. Women refuse to work difficult, dirty jobs or join the trades. Still a hate movement needs its cannon fodder - and you are it.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 01:57 AM
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So many lies.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 01:55 AM
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I'm not a fan of GB but this took an inordinate amount of courage and for that I applaud him.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 01:28 AM
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They're both unacceptable and unforgivable. Frankly it doesn't matter much because they're exclusively a hate movement anyway.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 01:09 AM
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This is something you'd literally never see a group of feminists do.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 01:09 AM
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They're exclusively a hate movement. Why would we want to work with them? That's like a member of the NAACP insisting we work with the Klan. The so-called feminists that agree with us are only considered feminists by them and certainly not by other feminists.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 11:21 PM
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Your read it - therefore it was effective. It's factual and not hyperbolic.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 11:18 PM
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My argument is that everyone is not deserving of a degree of respect unless you consider that respect to be either merely not striking them or basic civility.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 11:13 PM
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That's a lovely bit of false equivalency. MHRAs don't ride on the coat-tails of third world people, we don't ride the coat-tails of the LGBT movement, we don't advocate that there's not enough women CEOs - carefully ignoring the vast numbers of the homeless that are over 90 percent male, we don't talk about how catcalls are the worst thing ever other than the rape of a woman (but male rapes don't count), we don't talk about domestic violence in gendered terms. Theirs is a movement of hate, of di…
/r/MensRights30/05/14 11:06 PM
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The entirety of feminists.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 10:38 PM
1

At least you can be funny as a troll despite being reprehensible.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 10:37 PM
1

I love that your post got downvotes. Clearly that parthenogenesis thing is working out there somewhere.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 10:29 PM
1

San Francisco has quite possibly more gender neutral restrooms than anywhere else. Furthermore there's a lot of baby changing tables in both male and female restrooms - and there are no family rooms I'm aware of.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 10:28 PM
2

That I disagree with but broad-brushing an entire sex is what the other team does.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 10:12 PM
1

You questioned that females can only be victims. That's the entirety of their belief system.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 10:07 PM
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You misunderstand. All feminist subs are against men having rights. This sub is against the bigotry that feminists do - and the bigotry that tradcons do. When feminism ceases to be about othering and ceases to be an exclusionary hate movement this sub will have zero problems with feminism.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 10:02 PM
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The theories that blame men for everything bad that ever happened? The theories that state that women have always been, are now and will always be victims? That women have had no affect on history - and certainly can't be held responsible for anything in the present? You mean that entire movement of hate?
/r/MensRights30/05/14 10:00 PM
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It is neither that "we're a smaller group" nor that it is a "great sub". The mods have always been far more concerned about feminists getting their say and only ban or suspend mras and will all too happily make new rules and make them retroactive in order to squelch someone. You can see numerous threads where the mods discuss making it less of an mra sub and then them actively going to AMR to get more gender bigots to join. Concurrently they're all too happy to allow personal attacks provided th…
/r/MensRights30/05/14 09:46 PM
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Fuck that sub. It mollycoddles feminists to an incredible extent. The mods are vastly more interested in make it a "safe space" for feminists than in actual debate. Sorry, no.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 09:43 PM
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Then you've never set foot in there or seen how the mods act. I tire of these disingenuous posts.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 09:41 PM
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