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this comment entertains me when I think about all the men who treated me with passive aggression after I politely rejected them.
/r/MensRights16/04/22 09:59 PM
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Well said!
/r/MensRights16/04/22 08:44 PM
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the oldest university was established in 1088. science has pretty much always been a thing. and even democracy is super old what is even your point? even if I’m only talking about the last 2000 years what I’m saying is still generally applicable.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 08:05 AM
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regardless of timing of conceptualisations women were still not allowed to vote, do certain jobs, have any role in politics, enrol in university, participate in science, and we’re seen as a man’s sub-human property
/r/MensRights14/04/22 07:52 AM
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My argument was not about who struggled more but who had less rights.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 07:45 AM
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bruh get to the point
/r/MensRights14/04/22 07:42 AM
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0 empathy detected here.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 07:22 AM
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I’m a marxist so heck yeah
/r/MensRights14/04/22 07:04 AM
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Let me guess you’re a white man?
/r/MensRights14/04/22 06:58 AM
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you didn’t address anything I just said. When you exclude women from science, politics, public life, and university, you get a male perspective dominated society. Saying you disagree doesn’t make this go away.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 06:58 AM
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Because men were not considered to be less than human for thousands of years. Men have had far more rights than women did for thousands of years, and this has only changed quite recently in the last hundred give or take. Men were allowed to go to university, wear pants, work in politics, get all kinds of jobs… Women weren’t. Women were subjected to enforced domestic slavery for a very very long time. Just because a black person has never been white doesn’t mean that he doesn’t know he has it wor…
/r/MensRights14/04/22 06:55 AM
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My understanding of patriarchy can be defined as such: That society is made by and for men. It is only recent in human history that women were allowed to participate in the public life. (private life= home, public life= the world at large) Women were excluded from university, from politics, from science, and from certain job positions for thousands of years. That means all that progress that we made in human history, was made by men since they were the only ones with any real power. And since me…
/r/MensRights14/04/22 06:50 AM
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Could you name the said advocated for policies?
/r/MensRights14/04/22 06:43 AM
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I think that your claim that the vast majority of feminists is about advancing their interests for power is a baseless claim. This is your emotional opinion, but there’s no factual evidence to support it.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 06:36 AM
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I can’t have a proper debate with a person who refuses to hear what I’ve said. I am simply stating what my current version of feminism is, true feminism doesn’t even exist. I never said I wasn’t biased, I simply stated that you were. But rather than acknowledge your bias you simply seek to point out mine, and even do so in a mocking manner with laughing emojis. You have an arrogant and condescending attitude, and that’s probably why most feminists don’t bother debating with you. You are a person…
/r/MensRights14/04/22 06:31 AM
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"the sins of the father are the sins of the son" I do not necessarily ascribe to this, my beliefs are more like this: "the pains of the mother become the pains of the daughter when nothing is done" I don’t think that men are made solely responsible for what happened in the past, I think we are all responsible in a way. We are all responsible for creating the change, this is a burden for both men and women bc it’s a societal burden. in response to the end of your paragraph I think the problem is …
/r/MensRights14/04/22 06:02 AM
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It’s the right to equal representation in politics. As in, 50% of politicians should be female bc they represent the female perspective, and without it being equal that means political male voices will have more power, and the female perspective gets neglected. The supply for social workers is not very high as there is a very high turnover rate. Most people simply do not last in that industry.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 05:39 AM
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Agreed.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 05:36 AM
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It depends on what you value more, equality or practicality. The reason why men are drafted first is because women are the ones who can create more people. Society can still survive with few men because one man can impregnate a lot of women, but with few women it’s very hard to rebuild. But even practical matters aside, there’s physical matters to consider. Men typically make for better soldiers bc they are typically physically stronger. Also, men are more disconnected from their empathy due to …
/r/MensRights14/04/22 05:30 AM
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I am not stating what is or is not a "true" feminism. I’m saying you’re looking at the ideology from a biased perspective. The majority of feminists are not like the ones you describe. My point is you shouldn’t begin a debate by only looking at the most extreme side. "those aren’t real feminist" you’re putting words in my mouth. That’s not what I said. You are simply not listening. I’m asking you to not see the entire ideology based on the extremist outliers. That is why there is so much anti-fe…
/r/MensRights14/04/22 05:18 AM
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But also to touch on the first question again, the difficulty comes from the fact that men are often more interested and employed in fields concerning things, whereas women are more people centered. Under capitalism, the ones who profit will always have more money to pay their workers than the government. People based industries are often supported by the government which never has enough resources, and thing based industries are supported by profit with more than enough. So this also becomes an…
/r/MensRights14/04/22 05:01 AM
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1) I think a lot of the wage gap comes from the fact that society does not value pink collar labour as much as blue collar labour. For example, my ex barely finished highschool, never went to university, and works as a labourer. I am going to university, worked my ass off to get there, and am becoming a social worker so I can help the bottom barrel of society. And yet he will be paid more than me, because emotional labour isn’t seen as valuable as physical labour. Same story with why nurses and …
/r/MensRights14/04/22 04:56 AM
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Hmm good question. I suppose it would depend on the field and how relevant the female perspective would be. If it’s politics I would want the female perspective represented, if it’s construction I don’t really give a damn. As long as competent women aren’t being neglected just bc they are women, then the rest of the answer depends on the position in question.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 04:38 AM
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The right to equal representation isn’t the same thing as women having the right to enter politics. The value of labour is not just determined by supply and demand surely this is arguable. It’s also determined socially. The demand for social workers is extremely high, and yet they are paid quite little.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 04:31 AM
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I see what you mean, but without quotas you risk certain things: a) that women never get hired bc people just simply don’t see them as competent in a male dominated field b) the female perspective gets neglected and a part of the conversation is simply missing Perhaps quotas shouldn’t be exactly 50/50 due to the difference in interest you describe, but I do agree they should still exist.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 04:26 AM
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I’m not implying that I am a “true feminist” I am simply stating that you are overestimating and over applying a radical feminism to the entirety of feminism. Within ever ideology there will be extremists. If I posted a series of quotes from Incels or radical leaders of men’s rights that state things like women should be no more than incubators maids and chefs then would that be an accurate picture of men’s rights? No, it would be a limited one that’s looking at it from a biased perspective.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 04:22 AM
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Alright well let’s talk about the idea of patriarchy. Why do you see it as baseless?
/r/MensRights14/04/22 04:12 AM
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My argument is not that "women had it harder" my argument is that women have had less rights in the past. Job quotas are simply a means of making sure the female perspective is heard. The female perspective is one that has been neglected for thousands of years because we were left out of science and politics bc we weren’t seen as competent enough to contribute to them. Quotas counteract what would be an imbalance, and the neglecting of a perspective that is valuable.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 04:11 AM
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I don’t think using the extreme perspectives is the answer. This is not the feminism I spread, or was ever taught. Not every feminist is a radical man hater.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 04:08 AM
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Depends on where you’re talking about. In developed countries a lot of feminism looks like this: - equal representation in politics - equal pay initiatives - fighting the devaluation of pink collar labour Just some examples off the top of my head.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 04:05 AM
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That I totally agree with. If the father didn’t want the child in the first place you shouldn’t have to pay child support.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 04:02 AM
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I see your point, and I understand it. Personally I’d rather fight to redefine something than condemn it, but that’s my approach. But while we’re on the topic- do you think topics like patriarchy, toxic masculinity, fragile masculinity, and mansplaining are baseless?
/r/MensRights14/04/22 04:00 AM
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I agree there is a lot of hate for men, and that’s really not fair to all the lovely good men that are out there. But try to understand our perspective. I’m not saying hatred for men is warranted, I’m simply trying to explain where this comes from. Imagine you live in a world where you’ve been raped by men, harassed by men, objectified by men, condescended by men. Where you face micro aggressions almost daily from men. All of that, is traumatizing. And from that trauma, and all that hurt, comes …
/r/MensRights14/04/22 03:55 AM
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Okay thank you for the clarification:) Let me ask you a sub question, do you believe in affirmative action when it comes to race or are you against that as well? For example reserving spots specifically for black people for a job position.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 03:40 AM
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What is it specifically that bothers you about this page? I’m not doubting you or your reasoning, I’m just looking for a more specific elaboration so we can better discuss it:)
/r/MensRights14/04/22 03:36 AM
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Hi there:) to clarify, by applied female quotas you mean the idea that X number of women must be hired for a certain job position yes?
/r/MensRights14/04/22 03:34 AM
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Yes it includes them but that’s not the whole picture of what modern day feminism is, was my point. I do challenge other feminists. I dislike that kind of feminism as well, but that doesn’t mean I decide to hate all modern day feminism in general.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 03:32 AM
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yes but you imply I am alone in my definition when this is what I was literally taught in a women and gender studies course at a large university. I agree there is some problems in feminism, but imo they tend to be overestimated than how real feminists are in reality. I don’t think we should demonize the whole ideology, but rather should debate on what you believe it should look like. I’m a leftists— but just because some leftists have different view points than I in leftism does that mean I sho…
/r/MensRights14/04/22 03:28 AM
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This is a hard question to answer because it depends on how you define feminism. My definition of feminism is gender inclusive and so I agree that men should get a seat at the table. However I would say most feminists define feminism as the fight for equal rights for women. Given the second definition, what exactly do you think men have to contribute to female discrimination? It’s like asking a white person their opinion on discrimination against black people. They haven’t experienced it themsel…
/r/MensRights14/04/22 03:22 AM
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I don’t like that kind of feminism either. I don’t think that the kind of feminism your describing can be called modern day feminism, bc the truth is that modern day feminism has a ton of nuance and disagreement within it. Trying to paint all modern feminism and feminist with that same broad brush I think is the wrong approach. Some feminists do that yes, but that doesn’t mean modern feminism should be defined that way imo.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 03:13 AM
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I’ll take the risk.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 03:08 AM
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Not a cop. And the word inconvenience is such a massive massive understatement it’s like you didn’t even ready what I just said. Would you call risking your life an inconvenience? You need to channel some empathy. PS, just bc you think abortion is murder doesn’t mean everyone else has to.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 03:07 AM
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Until you are: 1) forced to put your career and potentially life sustaining income on hold to give birth to a child 2) have your body irreparably changed by the birth of a child 3) have your life literally be put at risk for birthing a child (pregnancy is dangerous and millions of women die from it every year) 4) have to carry and push out a ten pound bowling ball and go through excruciating pain to do so 5) have your hormones be totally out of whack for close to a year 6) have your sex life, bl…
/r/MensRights14/04/22 01:12 AM
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