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SciencewhichbladeN/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 06:27 PM
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Purge week!whichbladeN/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 01:46 AM
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Question for Red PillwhichbladeN/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 06:31 AM
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The difference is that you know people are getting paid to do porn, but in a TV show they are selling you on the idea that these characters want each other and are choosing each other in an organic way. So that's why you treat them differently. Porn is a commodity, but the sex your seeing in TV is an imitation of the experience other people are living.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 11:43 PM
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There are a lot of black pilled incels that aren't as fucked in the looks department, yet they think that's the cause of their failure. There's much more than just looks. It's the severe social anxiety that's holding most of these guys back.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:11 PM
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Because they think it's their duty to indoctrinate other men into their religion of MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:07 PM
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Hah, men do this too. Stay with a partner because it's convenient and comfortable and easy access to sex. And then move on when they meet someone they are passionate about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 05:55 PM
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it's common for women to have had more sexual lust for their fuckbuddies than they do for their serious boyfriends That's probably true in a lot of cases where the men refused to commit. But I imagine some women make a deliberate transition away from FWB and end up getting commitment from a man she would have been FWB with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 10:17 PM
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I can confirm that. I'm not gay but I can imagine having more fun with a beautiful woman vs an ugly man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 02:09 AM
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I think if they ranked photos/videos of each other they might be more unbiased. One of the girls made a good point that it was actually ranked most introverted to most extroverted, which is why it was unreflective of physically attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 04:13 PM
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Asking women to rank themselves in front of other women is a very counter intuitive process. I would be skeptical of the results. Plus all the men had different taste in women. But pretty uniformly weren't into the fattest girl. Also what does that say about this experiment that they didn't let men rank women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 04:06 PM
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Was your girlfriend homeless?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 07:04 PM
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Women are valued even if they don't have said ability. If not for birth what else?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 05:02 PM
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If he is not providing any value, the potential is not enough. Then why do women pair with men while neither of them make money? In college? It is because they both see potential in the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 04:50 PM
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Because you can still fuck infertile women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 04:42 PM
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The potential is enough. Which means they are valued for what they can provide. Even if it's not right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 04:40 PM
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women are valued even when they are not providing sex Isn't this the reason men won't date trans women? Because the sex would be weird?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 04:03 PM
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Women are probably more likely to be activists for a cause than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 02:33 AM
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We don't need to get married anymore because of my deep routed love for him. I'd forsake marriage for someone who I knew loved me. But don't ask for kids if you don't want to legally commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 11:25 PM
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I'm pretty sure millennials have been waiting longer and longer to move out from their parent's place than previous generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 03:43 PM
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the guy will just drop her and pay for a 18 year old. Especially since the younger is easier to impress and has a better body and looks. If it was that easy, wouldn't every man be paired with an 18 year old?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 03:36 PM
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what should she be doing to support herself Well she's got parents who pay for her, silly! They support her until they can hand her off to a real man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 03:35 PM
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The women have to be naturals, then they don't have to worry! If they were naturals then they'd lock down the correct man before they are 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 03:29 PM
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There's high standards that women have that are shallow and then there's the men who say "women are only good for sex" who are shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 02:09 AM
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Hey boundaries are boundaries. Anybody who infringes on what makes their partner uncomfortable is 'damaging the relationship'. Any there are plenty of varieties of porn use that would make people would consider some form of cheating. Cam girls, anonymous chat sites, trading pics, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 10:23 PM
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I imagine women have to be 'taught' not to be disgusted with a lot of male sexuality. Hence why you get women with hangups about BJs etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:33 PM
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TRP exists for men for the same reason people voted for Trump. They felt that a system in place was working in the interest of everyone but themselves, so they shifted to a more unconventional option to try to over-correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:57 PM
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Men feel just as defensive of their privacy as evident in the replies. Feeling like your partner is hiding something goes way deeper than just what's on their phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:49 PM
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No you'd feel attacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:48 PM
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internet history on lockdown Anyone with a brain cell knows its to hide his porn. Do you think men aren't entitled to privacy with when and what kind of porn they browse?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:24 PM
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In general men just don’t care and will throw you their phone. Men would care if you are telling them you don't trust them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:23 PM
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Who are you a replacement for?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 03:50 PM
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Because I was away from my computer for an astounding 6 hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 03:49 PM
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I will be surprised if OP actually responds to this criticism. They never do. u/whichbladeN reply to this comment Three different people in the same comment chain.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:56 AM
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Hey can we get rid of this new circlejerk of "OP probably won't reply to this."? It's a very strange behavior to see and it's just this strange low effort gotcha mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 02:57 AM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 02:53 AM
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I post studies all the time here only for people to resort to saying, 'I only believe what I experience'. This wasn't an argument, it was the rejection of a source. So now I'm less interested in that and more interested in people taking a claim and comparing it with their own experiences. That's what this whole subreddit boils down to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 02:53 AM
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So I linked to the Reddit post instead of directly to the study deliberately. I thought it was note worthy to see a study on gender reach the front page and see ten fold the engagement we get here. Ultimately what I've garnered from people's interpretation of the study is that none of it feels as a surprise. So to say that this is purely propaganda is strange because everyone sees these XYZ behaviors and thinks, "Yeah assholes who believe asshole stuff behave like ones too." I'm not even arguing…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 02:51 AM
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The popular subreddits /r/insaneparents and /r/raisedbynarcissists are majority reporting on toxic masculinity and femininity in parents. So we got that going at least. The reason studies aren't being done in the same volume for toxic femininity is because it's just subtle compared to the obvious displays of toxic masculinity. But I do think women 'admit' toxic femininity when they push back against some gender roles. It just has never picked up a trendy buzzword.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 10:55 PM
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I won't deny that people denounce toxic masculinity. But I'm not suggesting all men are toxic. And frankly there's a threshold where people tolerate the toxicity if you have it. Men denounce toxic femininity too. However they in no uncertain terms will claim that all women are toxic. Hence AWALT. Brass tacks: "Woman hating"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 10:26 PM
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Putting yourself in physical harm is always regarded as masculine. You can argue that it's toxic based on whether or not you deemed it necessary for a sacrifice to be made. And I don't disagree with your examples of toxic fem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 10:23 PM
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For something to qualify as being toxic femininity is first has to be a behavior that is categorically more feminine than masculine. Meaning on the whole the majority of who displays the trait are women. As an example, eating disorders are toxic femininity. Men can have them, just like women can be violent. But it's majority women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 10:05 PM
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It's not masculinity. Doesn't fit the archetype of masculinity to be a door mat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 10:02 PM
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It's not masculine. Being extremely subservient is toxic femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 10:01 PM
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Crying from happiness What if a man cries when he holds his newborn child? Not cool?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 10:00 PM
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Yeah and I don't judge him for crying at all. In the moment I was hurt because I was thinking of myself, but in retrospect I know he deserves to keep some things to himself, even if traces of it come out. It's a tough topic for him to talk about. And I don't currently see what he has to gain by me forcing him to live the experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 10:00 PM
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Always startling. Crying over a death always gives me sympathy tears. My boyfriend's family just put their dog down and it was the first time I saw his dad cry. I felt the intensity of his feelings for that dog by seeing him like that. Crying over relationship issues has the most negative context. Because in some way I'm going to feel defensive about it. I said something while drunk about how my boyfriend's brother confided in me about how worried he gets for my BF's health. And all of a sudden …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 09:49 PM
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I mean if women are killing themselves because of it, sure. Better to be a housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 09:45 PM
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We call men simps for not putting themselves first.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 09:44 PM
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giving selflessness for a 40 year marriage Even people who maintain 40 year marriages can't keep it up. They just don't leave when things go wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 08:53 PM
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It's probably to the effect of, "men in committed relationships have more sex in a year than single men".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 07:50 PM
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I think it's possible for men to maintain their virtuous vision of themselves as long as they aren't jaded by constant deceit. A tall order in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 07:44 PM
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And it is quite convenient that we determine those behaviors and ideas in a way that toxic behaviors are associated to masculinity... Here's a list of toxic femininity. Women complain about this shit all the time. The harmful tropes of their gender. Those kinds of discussions get silenced here when RP espouses "women have life on easy mode, so none of it matters". Men themselves define 'toxic femininity' But instead they call it AWALT. Except with their phrase, it is in no uncertain terms that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 07:41 PM
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Because they become simps and pick me out of necessity, not benevolence. It's an unsustainable state of being for both of them unless they are constantly challenged into proving themselves. If both of them put all their cards on the table they are going to drop the facade.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 07:23 PM
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Not being disingenuous. There's an overlap in extreme philosophies of masculinity and overall harm to oneself and others. There's no claim about the prevalence of these, my only claim is that THIS is the definition of toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 07:21 PM
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All of the things you mentioned would be toxic no matter the gender of the person doing them. I agree, but violence and hypersexuality are masculine. Gender roles exist. For us to even distinguish what is masculine and what is feminine we have to determine what behaviors and ideas enforce the roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 07:16 PM
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At this point it's confirmation bias. If a man has X number of extreme philosophies, then he is likely to display a number of harmful behaviors to himself and others. As others have put, the sky is blue. But I still think it's worth mentioning that THIS is what encompasses toxic masculinity. Not all of masculinity, just the extremities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 07:13 PM
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From what I understand, the study doesn't say "Men don't do chores therefore they have mental health issues". It's merely correlation that if you hold X number of these philosophies, you're also more likely to be a bully and have mental health issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 07:11 PM
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We might use the term evil scientist. But we have the understanding that it's different from just 'scientist'. Or using self driving as a descriptor of a car does not mean all cars are self driving. Not all masculinity is toxic. But some amount is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 07:07 PM
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the guy she cheats with? There are some men in the world who wouldn't based on principle. Some men don't want to be regarded as a bad guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 06:53 PM
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saying that is the average male behavior. The study makes no claim on the majority of men having harmful attitudes. data from more than 3,600 men ages 18-30 across three countries, this study found that higher Man Box Scale scores were associated with up to five times higher rates of verbal, online or physical bullying, as well as sexual harassment. It shows the size of the study, but not the percentage of men who were in this category.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 06:36 PM
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Why this adversarial approach to sex and relationships? What is it gaining? A stronger sense of control. Men can get so oblivious in relationships that they have no idea what's working and what's not, as long as they are getting what they want out of it. That's why more women divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 07:35 PM
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Men are more sentimental than women care to believe. My experience in my own relationship has been the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 02:46 PM
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No you assume they are father and daughter until you see them lock lips lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:58 AM
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Pics or it didn't happen
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 11:06 PM
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What? No. It's just visual preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:46 PM
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A young woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:43 PM
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There are women who stay attracted well into their 40s. You could examine their dating choices. I was thinking of Jennifer Lopez (50), but celebrity relationships are a different beast.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:04 PM
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You might have to define unconditional love, because it doesn't exist for men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:50 PM
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That's true. And the only way you can completely avoid it is to find a woman who makes a comparable salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:16 PM
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higher status/high assets older male offers value to the younger female in obvious ways. That's a sugar baby dynamic. Or if they lie to themselves, it's just a gold digger dynamic. Men want more than just sex. They want someone who understands them, validates them, someone they can rely on. Someone who legitimately enjoys being around them. I can only imagine the doubt a rich man feels when young women out of his league express 'interest'. A young woman could be that for an old man, but they gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:11 PM
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Sounds like the human condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:05 PM
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Idk man. Seems like men are more likely to feel like they had one that 'got away'. I don't hear that sentiment nearly as much from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:03 PM
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Yeah and a lot of relationships are founded on 'don't ask, don't tell' when it comes to porn and masturbation. Whether or not that's good long term is up for debate. Generally it's fine as long as the woman doesn't question his loyalty or mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:01 PM
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In one case he masturbates at the thought of another woman Unless he's whispering her name as he does it, no one would be the wiser.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 04:57 PM
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Dang I have no idea who I was thinking of then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 04:54 PM
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That's a behavior, not a thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 04:53 PM
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/u/seemedgood
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:53 PM
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Anal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:50 PM
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I think, although it's just from memory: /u/DangZagnut do you want a virgin wife? And if so, is the goal for her to be very sex positive?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:50 PM
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Hint:even if he just uses his imagination, he won't be thinking of you. This is why some things are better left unsaid. Nobody needs to be charged with thought crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:38 PM
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Not fat. Just imperfect. Cellulite, stretch marks, scars, hairy, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:36 PM
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Well you'll see a few men here and there on NSFW posts complain about the color of a girl's ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:35 PM
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For one, bleached assholes. Wasn't really a thing before assholes were on the big screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:53 PM
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Expecting hyper-sexuality in women like they see in porn. Expecting porn acts that make women uncomfortable. Pornography has been shown to weaken commitment in marriages because it creates an utterly false impression of what a normal body looks like and what sexual behavior is really about. The sexual relationship is meant to be mutually satisfying expression of each partner’s love for the other. In contrast, porn is about self-gratification and often involves dominating or mistreating the other…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:10 PM
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explore sexually before marriage And during. Men don't want prostitutes. They want the ego boost of knowing they can get X women to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:02 PM
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For my brief time browsing Gender Critical, they were convinced that no woman should have to resort to selling her body to make money. As far as hentai. Sometimes their portrayals of women can come across as childlike. And a lot of times they seem to have the female act as if she doesn't want it. It's weird. There's also a lot of straight up rape in hentai. They also said porn made most men sick. Made their expectations of women unrealistic. Which is probably true for some men. I mean think abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 01:54 PM
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There is at least a shred of truth to 'make sure your woman loves you more'. Even just a little bit. Because a woman that truly loves her man is always going to come running to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:50 AM
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We expect our partners to be our lovers, our best friend, closest confidant, financial partner, mother/father of our children. It's a lot of shit. So it's no wonder people end up unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 11:43 PM
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You also aren't putting yourself at risk with your job. Most men these days work behind a desk.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 11:40 PM
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What's with this being a CMV and a majority of the top male posters are agreeing? Women are romantic. Think of all the sexy lingerie they get for the bedroom. Because romance for guys is all about sex. Women are 'romantic' in that way. And women are generally thoughtful to their partner. I buy things at the store I think my boyfriend will like. I rub his back. Spank his butt. LTRs aren't about constant professions of love and grand gestures. You'd run out of steam in like a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 11:33 PM
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And a woman who doesn't bare your children or have sex with you has no value either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 06:45 PM
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When women die, articles are full of it That probably has more to do with the expectation of women being risk averse. And you also need to consider who is the demographic of these 'articles' coming out. If the demographic is women, you can see why they'd be more interested in things involving women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 06:34 PM
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Otherwise the wife and kids are fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 06:20 PM
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In China, women are extremely valuable Wasn't China known for aborting girls because of the two child rule?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 06:16 PM
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Male starfish is insignificant compared to the amount of female starfishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 05:52 PM
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but males orgasming is not females "making" males orgasm. Probably because men can orgasm from starfish sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 05:47 PM
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I do not find sexual activity without an orgasm necessarily disappointing. Yeah there's a dozen ways you can feel satisfied with just the sex itself. All in the mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 05:45 PM
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To be fair, there are some places when it's just poor taste to have your ass cheeks hanging out. Going to a festival or the beach is one thing, going to Walmart or your boyfriend's parent's BBQ is another.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 05:50 PM
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They don't like it when women say "I don't do X for men." They assume that's lie or hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 05:04 PM
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They buy it because it looks good, but they choose to wear it because it's hot. Yeah they could have bought frumpy cargo shorts. But they didn't and now the only outfits they have to stay cool in the summer are skimpy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 04:04 PM
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I thought semen retention was going to have something to do with vaginas.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 04:52 AM
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Would this type of harem be plausible if the bachelorette was an heiress with loads of money?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 04:47 AM
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That's the scenario /u/Mimoxs brought up. That a female harem means men are all committed to one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 04:43 AM
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Having 2 partners vs 1 or none is the point. 2 partners is worse than 3 - 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 04:41 AM
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Wise words, BerniesAnalSlave.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:37 AM
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Our wives actually become more attractive and sexually arousing to us over time and with familiarity. First time I've heard this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:28 AM
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Given the fact that women initiate more divorces, I'm gonna say they aren't more accepting of cheaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:47 AM
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That's true. And you could even select for low libido men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:45 AM
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sense of ownership over him. Mine doesn't either. I can be sexually attracted to men I've never even interacted with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:41 AM
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Because a 'female harem' still involves commitment. It's just not common to ask more than one person for commitment, which is why you don't see it happening. And it's pure fantasy. You'd be asking men to be monogamous while you are polygamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:38 AM
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Same can be said about all harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:37 AM
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Most women would not feel loved by a man (or men) willing to share her. Disagree. If a man was choosing her as his only partner it would still feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:35 AM
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There's no logical reason for a woman to reject this. Their vagina would get tired. I think a lot of the men in the harem would be missing out on the sex they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:33 AM
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If a woman had, say, two partners, then I think it would be quite easy to amaze her. Women with exactly two premarital sex partners have consistently higher divorce rates than women with 3 to 9 partners
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 05:38 PM
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My premise is that marriage is for people who want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 02:17 PM
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You can sit in your basement alone for all I care. But if you complain that you aren't getting dates...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 01:31 AM
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I didn't say "just pick a hobby". I said "do interesting shit".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:47 PM
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“single” millennial moms are in committed relationships without the piece of paper. That's exactly what the OP is advocating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:42 PM
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If we are talking about the black community, that's because there are literally fewer men to go around due to the rate of incarceration.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:46 PM
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Try a beard to make it less noticeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:41 PM
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I think you misunderstand 'single'. It merely means not married. It doesn't mean she was pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:40 PM
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It's a dual edged sword. When my boyfriend 'opens up'. It's usually when he's frustrated, angry or sad. And ultimately he withholds affection and becomes disinterested. None of my efforts to address the issue or simply console him help. However, he's going to act like this regardless, so I'd rather I know the cause of it instead of being in the dark. Stoicism never works because your dissatisfaction and coldness always comes through.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:30 PM
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“I don’t want to have to mommy a man-child,” I have only heard this when referencing chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:26 PM
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So you are afraid mommy is going to get mad at you? Uh. Not the right way to imagine your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:24 PM
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Explains the trope of men disparaging their wives with their friends because she nags.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:21 PM
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It shows that more than 70 percent of all black children today are born to an unmarried mom, a three-fold increase in that rate since the 1960s: So the numbers are inflated because of race differences. I don't know how much it's debated, but black women might have a different dating strategy than white women. Or not have the same abundance mentality for finding a reliable man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:17 PM
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give in to women with such preferences any longer, because ample alternatives are available. Sunk cost. Generally you are in a relationship for years before you have kids. So if the man wants kids and the woman says she wants marriage first, now he's gotta walk away from a woman he wanted as the mother of his children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:14 PM
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Given the decline in marriage rate, it sounds like men are 'liberating' themselves from marriage more than ever before. I personally wouldn't subscribe to that neo-relationship because I think I'd lose status with the older generations in my family I would want a stronger expression of commitment from the man I'd have kids with
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:11 PM
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That's fair. I think my problem with high N counts is a fear of their lack of attachment. I'd be worried if they've fuck a lot of people that they really don't know how to commit to a single one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:06 PM
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You got me there. Some hobbies are boring hobbies. I think you can determine interesting hobbies based on how extroverted you can be with it. Like you can have a hobby of putting ships in a bottle, but there's literally no engagement with other people than "Oh, cool."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:04 PM
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What's the difference between her comparing you to ONE guy vs 20? Is it just the statistical probability that one of those 20 could be better than you? That can still happen if she's had any number of partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 07:58 PM
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Second of all, a man can choose to be involved in their kids life, invest resources, etc., I think it's still enough of a stigma that women do not choose to be single mothers or forever girlfriends. So if men want a family they have to compromise with the mother of their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 07:56 PM
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Improving yourself by being groomed, well dress, and doing interesting shit. Most people are so boring, it's easy to improve yourself by doing more shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 07:53 PM
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In the last 20 years these incentives were quite rapidly dissolving to the point that I don't believe it is rational for a quite substantial percent of the population to ever marry. I imagine the incentive to raise good children is still there. I would be fine never getting married if it meant I was never having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 06:54 PM
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I have a philosophy of never turning down my partner for sex. That's right homie. Gotta keep his stomach full and balls empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 06:40 PM
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I wouldn't feel the need to predict people based on their gender because that's not what dating is to me. It's a case by case basis. But I've hardly participated in the modern dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 06:38 PM
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Nice is obligatory and proper. Kindness is thoughtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:42 PM
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Lots of uggos have relationships and sex. Ever seen TikTok videos with couples without teeth? They really do find each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:34 PM
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Probably because he's going to keep earning the salary even if he stopped providing for others. If a woman stopped taking care of kids, she isn't going to suddenly get the job she would be in had she not had kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 03:01 PM
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I saw a recent FDS thread I'mma stop you right there. If there was a subreddit that's the pinnacle of women prioritizing themselves, that would be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 02:58 PM
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Researchers at Binghamton University recently surveyed more than 5,000 people from 96 countries He considers 2,262 adults, ages 19 to 94, who had opposite sex partners in 2009. By 2015, 371 of these people had broken up or gotten divorced. How big of a sample size do you need for it to not be hearsay?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 02:41 PM
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That's solipsism lol. But as someone recently said, the purpose of this place is merely to present your perspective to those who otherwise wouldn't know it. And hopefully you acknowledge the realities of others as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 03:53 AM
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When graded on a scale, men, on average, did feel less pain than women after a breakup—both emotional and physical. And additionally, ... studies on non-marital heterosexual relationships are showing that the break-ups of non-marital relationships are in fact, gender neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 03:05 AM
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She's a Karen because she played the race card and said, "I'm gonna call the police and tell them a black man is threatening me." Pretty much any woman who is being recorded during an altercation that 'threatens' to call/actually calls the police is a Karen. Generally they call during situations that could have easily been diffused without the use of police.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 10:32 PM
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You won't hear that shit from me. Testosterone is a hell of a drug for dudes. Might be interesting to figure out if there in any deeper psychology about why certain women are hyper sexual. If it's less about sex and more about control, subverting gender roles, expression of freedom etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 10:11 PM
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Not really an emotional tampon if they fall in love with each other. Sounds more like an intimate exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 08:13 PM
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Depends on the woman. Some women really enjoy casual sex. Others find it easy to be asexual when not trying to LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 08:11 PM
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Some may be involuntarily single if they are over 35. Perhaps if they've never been married they might feel like a Christmas cake. However more women than men will forgo commitment after a divorce. Especially if they have kids to focus on. Women fare better as single divorcees.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:59 PM
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Sure women can get easy sex but it still contradicts that the only leave a relationship when: just a friend” actually commits to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:57 PM
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The only way I can imagine the emotional affair being better than the purely physical one is if your male partner says, "I fell for someone else but I will still choose you."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:53 PM
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I'm sure men and women hide infidelity at the same rate, but since more men cheat than women, more men end up getting caught statistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:44 PM
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You need both. Children need the bond with their mothers otherwise they suffer from deep psychological problems with abandonment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:35 PM
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A balance. There's probably something about having male figures in your life that make a boy want to 'be like them' instead of being told how to behave. I don't know if it's easy for boys to aspire to be like their mothers in the same way they aspire to be like their father. It's kind of like why minorities want more representation in media.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:32 PM
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I'll answer for him, although I don't know if it's the absolute cause. They think women don't raise boys with realistic boundaries, confidence, they stamp out dark triad tendencies, etc. They think a mother's imperative is to make her boy soft and gentle. AKA a soy boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:26 PM
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Marriage in its purest form.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:21 PM
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In regular relationships, men and women break up at the same rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:14 PM
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Yeah that doesn't make sense to me unless he compensated by being super interesting with all his free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:14 PM
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Some people like to live vicariously through others who have vocations. Keeps your life more interesting in a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 06:25 PM
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Money isn't the only thing that makes them happy. Or even the primary thing. If it was, then being provided for in a relationship would be sufficient to stay in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 06:15 PM
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Just so we are clear. What constitutes a slut? And as far as choosing the best partner from among the choices, you are adamant that men don't do this? How do they pick one woman from the other? It makes it seem like a man's choice is interchangeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 06:14 PM
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Can confirm that anecdotally. My dad for years thought doing all the cooking and cleaning would make my mom want him more. Didn't do shit. But she also makes almost double what he does, so that's probably her justification for not doing as much cleaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 06:10 PM
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Women have the money within the relationship and still leave anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 06:08 PM
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But frankly, I don't believe it much, I should not have said it now that I thought about it. This made me laugh out loud. I appreciate the humility.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 06:07 PM
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You don’t see women demanding more sex in divorce court I don't think even men demand sex in divorce court.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 05:52 PM
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Some swing to another partner. Others stay single for months to years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 05:34 PM
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It works in the short term. If you challenge people to prove themselves they feel compelled to do it. They don't like you more, but they seek your approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 05:28 PM
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Validation does not exist in a vacuum. Your value when it comes to interacting with others is always informed by other people. Like men need to be validated through sex. You can't 'self orient' to determine whether or not you are sexually desirable. Comes from external validation. You can value yourself and what you can do for yourself, but that's only one facet of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 05:26 PM
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Speaking of insecurity, it's against subreddit rules to downvote. I assume it's you since it doesn't change until you comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 04:16 PM
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Men still wear crop tops. It's just gay fashion now. I mean shit, high heels were invented by men to wear. Things changed and now it's 'feminine' despite being made for men. That's fashion for you. You should blame homophobia for prohibiting what you can wear.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:29 PM
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Because it's pretty. I assume. I haven't even used the word yaoi since 2009.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:22 PM
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Everyone is a mixed bag. There's no real consequence to not boosting a man's ego, but there's incentive to do it. Validation is an important emotional need.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:17 PM
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Anyone who wants an LTR knows that making your boyfriend feel good is going to make him stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:09 PM
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They like the intimacy of it. Not the look of the dick itself. Dicks are a dime a dozen on the internet. Women aren't the main viewers of any dick related subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:06 PM
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I noticed that women have a vested interest in keeping men's self esteem low. A big component of relationships is boosting a man's ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:02 PM
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Unfortunately it seems like to me we're creating a world where being yourself is increasingly frowned upon If you think of the level or propriety and face-saving required in the previous generations, you are allowed to be 'yourself' now more than back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 10:36 PM
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Okay so we need more Infographics on, "How Not to Abandon Your Children". The individualism of society is what makes more men not want to provide for a family. It's not what that man wants. He wants freedom above all else. As someone who hardly thinks women deserve praise for purely being mothers, I don't think the attention towards fathers is even a question. You raise children because you want your child to end up successful or happy. The only people who deserve praise are the ones who actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 10:34 PM
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Yeah, but I think the consequence of never giving special attention also means you'd miss out on potential partners. So that's the trade off. You miss 100% of the shots you didn't take. Interestingly women can become more attracted and interested in a person after getting to know them over a few weeks or months vs having just met. So therein lies the shred of truth that being a girl's 'friend' will make her interested. The caveat being you had to be at least attractive enough for her to say you …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 08:27 PM
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It's not about being nice. It's about thinking your special attention for a lady will result in a symmetrical effect. As if you can force people to feel the way you do with some cheat code. Stop being 'nice' in the sense that you don't enforce your own boundaries and maintain a realistic expectation that not everyone will like you purely for doing the bare minimum. Don't treat a girl like a girlfriend with all the extra attention and flattery if she isn't giving IOIs. The world would have less o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 07:59 PM
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Men are more likely to remarry after divorce than women. Which is interesting if their imperative is a constant stream of new women. Having a wife lines up with more of their goals than spinning plates. It's in their interest to preserve a marriage because They are likely to get a worse custody deal than the mother. Wives typically manage a lot of home affairs for their husband. They don't have as good as of a social support system to help deal with the divorce. They can maintain an affair inste…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 06:07 PM
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I think we are getting off topic here. This was about unconditional love and why men on PPD think men are unconditional lovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:45 PM
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being thanked or shown some appreciation? By whom? When? The kind of people who wants mothers appreciated on Father's Day are bored white women with too much time on their hands. I swear they only say this shit to make adsense money by saying something everyone dogpiles onto.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:38 PM
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take all my money I think that's what keeps men in marriages, not love. Divorce is a bigger loss for them. Especially if there are kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:31 PM
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I would hope the majority of women experience more fear and disgust for rapists and murders that would offset any physical attraction. I don't think I can articulate the amount of disgust I feel for someone like Chris Watts.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:13 PM
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Can men still be Nice Guys TM without believing in the asshole/nice guy dichotomy? Like can they exist in a vacuum without comparing themselves to the other suitors? I feel as though there's a spectrum of nice guys with varying degrees of intensity.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:02 PM
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That's because single dads are a rarity. It's like watching a dog play the piano.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:57 PM
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Who is responsible for rewarding men for raising their children? What does that even entail?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:54 PM
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I think most men here see: Men stay in marriages that make them miserable = unconditional love
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:47 PM
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And women "can" too. It's just rare. I know two women in my whole life that who are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:46 PM
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The way you treat women who won't sleep with you is how you treat all women. Not true. If you're attracted to someone you go above and beyond the call of duty to please them. That's what these nice guys are. Extra attentive, extra engaged, extra flattering. The problem with nice guys is they aren't good at making their feelings known before they start investing all this time into a girl. So they feel slighted that they'd been giving and giving all this attention and receiving nothing back. Some …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:44 PM
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It's not normal for women to be attracted to serial killers. It's called Hybristophilia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybristophilia#:~:text=Hybristophilia%20is%20a%20paraphilia%20in,such%20as%20rape%20or%20murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:34 PM
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incelsphere It's a real thing. Or at least it used to be before it got banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:27 PM
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How you feel and how you express love is the crux of the problem with even trying to quantify something as unconditional love. Perhaps, to you, unconditional love doesn't also mean unconditional loyalty. "Love" in this case isn't an expression, but an ineffable connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 04:58 AM
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Security as in he will protect you and your kids if there is a need for it. You can get a big dog for that lol. I think the relationship becomes complicated for more reason than just 'a lack of income'. I think if a man gets fired he most likely isn't immediately picking up the lion's share of child rearing and home maintenance to compensate. Or, like we are seeing in the pandemic, some married people don't like all the extra time together and they needed that separation to feel more content.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 09:08 PM
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So you're saying if more of these 'non-Chad' men had relationships in their 20s then men would be cheating more in relationships in that age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 08:01 PM
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I would still love my cat if he got sick, and required significant work from my part to take care of, even though ostensibly the reasons I fell in love with my cat are no longer there. A distinction to be made about this and relationships the fact that you always were the cats caretaker. You knew that getting a pet meant you'd always be doing X amount of work for a very minimal return. Humans are a bit different because you can let go of them and still know their needs will probably be met in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 07:55 PM
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Technically true. If they loved you unconditionally they would never leave you for any reason. But people ain't like that. And thank God. A lot of suffering would arise if you loved someone unconditionally who didn't love you that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 07:39 PM
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Studies on non-marital heterosexual relationships are showing that the break-ups of non-marital relationships are in fact, gender neutral. And here's a graph to show that women cheat in the 18-29 range and entire 1% more than men until men eclipse them in the older ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:47 PM
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Not entirely true. In my conversations with at least one guy who is deadbedroomed: He knew his wife didn't value intimacy but he married her anyway. Once they had a kid everything was gone. Moral of the story is that having kids is the worst thing you can do to your sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:43 PM
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I love her for her specific look, specific personality and for our shared experiences/memories. I feel this too. And I'm speaking as someone who has had the 'hotter', 'better' man show up in my life. I still choose my partner. But I'm not the norm. I have N = 1 with my first and only partner of 7 years. That's not the kind of loyalty most people have in this day and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:30 PM
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Also for men it's not comparative like it is for women. Elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:13 PM
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How is that different from what you just said? I love her for the way she looks and her personality. He doesn't have to be the 'best' for me to love him. I know for a fact there are other men who are better than him for me in some ways, but I choose him because he is my man and always will be if I have anything to say about it. There are many like him, but this is mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 05:33 PM
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Alpha: The man you would fuck (because he's hot) but not marry (because he's unstable) You'll get different definitions of alphas. Men here say alpha is the man every woman wants to marry but can't because he's too good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 05:18 PM
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I don't use tinder but I imagine women's success with getting dates stems from the fact that men are using it for sex. No matter whether she has a social life or not, whether she is even fun to be around. And I think this part is because most people will jump straight into scheduling a date as the way to get to know the person. So men will accept a date before they know whether or not they like the woman personally. I assume. It's what I've gathered from one of my male friends who uses it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 05:05 PM
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Men do this too. Especially when women are clumsy. Some men find it endearing, others mind find it messy. The quadriplegic scenario is different. You can argue that women are more likely to stay with a disabled partner than a man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 05:02 PM
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So you love because you don't think you have any other options? Sounds more like fear than love.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:50 PM
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Men do not love women's negatives, only their positives. Whereas women are capable of loving both a man's positive and negative traits, they love the flaws, they can love him even when he provides no usefulness. What flaws do women love? Men can love a woman even if she provides no usefulness... for a time. Just as women would cease to feel romantic love after a long period. People often say they still 'love' someone who hurt them but the reality is that they love the memory.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:49 PM
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Probably a subconscious desire for someone who is a slave to your desires. True love probably only exists so long as the fantasy you imagined of a person is maintained.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:47 PM
2

I know from /r/DeadBedrooms that men will endure the sexlessness for longer than you'd expect. Of course they also just resort to some form of cheating to pacify themselves. But it hardly sounds like love. Sounds like they are stuck in complacency and normalcy, and would leave if they knew they had a better deal on the other side of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:31 PM
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I love her for the way she looks and her personality Women feel this way about their partners too. I know I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:29 PM
2

You said altruistic love is very rare. So it's best not to assume most people are going to feel that way about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:28 PM
2

but that doesn’t mean it’s impossible or even improbable. You don't want to form your dating life around this expectation of completely selfless love. Because you'll be wrong most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:20 PM
11

And there are women with unemployed men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:17 PM
9

Everyone is becoming more narcissistic. Gotta love peak individualism.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:09 PM
1

Different women want different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 03:44 AM
2

special friend
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 11:46 PM
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People are nostalgic for being young because life was simpler and they had less responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 02:56 PM
2

Not like the other girls TM Never been depressed in my life. Social anxieties are something I personally grew out of through humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 01:35 AM
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How common is that scenario though? Where a man wanted to be with a woman up until they had sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 02:53 PM
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Interesting that you think breaking it off right after sex makes it less 'user behavior'. Whereas /u/SofritoNachos said the opposite: Do you dump her literally right after sex, or do you give it another proper date or two to decide? Do you give her solid ground to think you're dumping her because you're incompatible, or can she reasonably assume you got your nut and lost interest because of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 02:50 PM
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If it comes down to sexual incompatibility, that's not using her. Now I doubt most men who make women feel used are taking the time to explain that it's the 'sexual incompatibility' that's keeping them from a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 02:45 PM
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Because you can figure out if you like someone without the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 02:27 PM
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I think that depends entirely on the timeframe. And someone who was lukewarm about whether or not they'd date you is still 'using you' for sex. Although I think if women are worried about their N count then they do need to take more responsibility. No sex before monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 02:17 PM
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share an unfaithful hot alpha male Men keep saying this here and yet I can't think of anything worse than being with someone who would do me dirty like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 02:39 AM
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Honestly her makeup already made her eyes look huge and doll like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 02:23 AM
2

It's for all the people who will never get to see them to compare the pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 02:13 AM
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Women use sex to bond. Or at least a woman who would feel manipulated by a guy who only wants sex would be trying to use it to form a connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 02:04 AM
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See what? What behavior is 'unconditional love'?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 07:43 PM
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Men don't love women unconditionally either. Doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 07:16 PM
2

I'd venture the guys who have the fetish don't actually have a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 04:42 AM
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Some people get to a point on PPD where they don't accept anecdotal evidence. The alternative to that is a study.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 04:02 AM
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It's a 15% different in divorce rate. 10+ being 15% higher than 1. https://ifstudies.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/wolfinger-sex-partners-divorce-figure-1-1.png
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 04:00 AM
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The study doesn't state the age range nor the duration of the marriage. Average age for women to marry is 27.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 01:37 AM
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But it's easier and less effort to lie. If you have no empathy then the consequence is merely burning bridges when the time comes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 01:34 AM
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It could work if two people agreed to it, but I imagine those same men will still be jealous and unforgiving if their partner cheats too. Probably something something paternal certainty. But in a case like that, you can still get the test. And the same hiccup can happen if a man gets his mistress pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 01:32 AM
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It's still considered cheating after you've served divorce papers?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 01:30 AM
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Lol that's the whole point of this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 01:28 AM
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I've spoken with those men before. They just claim that they are 'assholes', as though it's a way of life. They have very low empathy and are able to compartmentalize to mitigate guilt. Some have said that the thrill of getting caught is the most exciting part.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 01:10 AM
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Why wife someone who you deem unworthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 01:09 AM
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Only if the husband has premarital sex. So, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 01:07 AM
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Technically you can have premarital sex with the soon to be husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 01:07 AM
3

Lizard brain wants to spread their seed to as many females as possible for maximum propagation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 01:04 AM
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But these women still had premarital sex with two people prior to marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 01:01 AM
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But a woman who has 3 premarital partners, including the husband, has a substantially lower divorce rate. A single partner makes a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 12:57 AM
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I always feel something for those little old men at diners who eat alone. I always wonder if they'd rather have company and wish I could do something small to make them smile.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 12:28 AM
4

I still love your gender as whole. Explain what this means to you. How does your love for an entire gender manifest in your behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 12:25 AM
2

Hey then you wouldn't get your new smart phone because all the rare earth miners would be dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 12:23 AM
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High risk aversion and neuroticism make people wants to compartmentalize others in a way that shields them from unpredictability. If you treat every person as statistically likely to hurt you in some way, then you can protect yourself from being hurt in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 12:19 AM
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Why is A called a "Reality" and B is called a "View"? Sounds pretty biased from the get go. Especially when your question is "Which seems more indicative of reality?"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 04:49 PM
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...the front ones are straight...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 04:42 PM
2

You know what you must do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 02:41 PM
2

It seems like there are more FtM that regret trying to transition. Taking testosterone for a few years permanently changes your voice though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 02:38 PM
2

I guess I really wouldn't know for sure unless I saw a real fake vagina lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 08:18 AM
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If transgender women lie about being trans, the response is usually aggression from the deceived party. Especially from someone who is homophobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 08:10 AM
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Even if they get bottom surgery, it can't possibly look, feel, and behave like a real vagina right? It's an inverted penis, so it doesn't self-lubricate, it doesn't expand when aroused, it doesn't contract with an orgasm. If I was a guy, I would be distracted by the idea that I'm sticking my dick in a man made hole. Idk. But I'm sure men don't think such things when they are horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 08:03 AM
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Jesus, you're really tweaking hard in all these replies here. Accusing everyone of lying to you. As others have pointed out, men get with 23 year olds all the time and there's no outrage. You might get a Jezebel article on it how "All Men are Pigs" but the general public doesn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 07:57 AM
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Don't call 'any and all public outrage' #metoo. It's disingenuous. There's nothing to compare this case to, because most celebrity couples don't cheat on each other and then come out publicly saying they forgive each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 07:51 AM
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Only if that 23-year-old girl in question accused him of having assaulted her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 07:35 AM
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So then why would Jada get '#metoo'd'?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 07:25 AM
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I don't think #metoo had much to do with marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 07:21 AM
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Promiscuity doesn't really gel with the marriage types.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 07:01 AM
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It makes more sense that Will Smith would be amenable to her cheating if he was harboring his own guilt of betrayal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 06:59 AM
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When a wife does it, it's perfectly acceptable to socially isolate a man because he can't hang out with those "college friends" who are bad influences. Hah. Men desire this too. To keep their women away from people who would peer pressure them into crossing boundaries. Although it's all insecurity. Given that I was with my boyfriend DURING college, idk why I'd say the friends he made are different from him. They age with him and end up in the same stage of life anyway. Unless you mean like a 30 …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 06:58 AM
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Presumably it's respected by men who don't want marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 06:52 AM
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It's possible celebrity marriages play by different rules. They may have stuck together mostly for appearances. And that might have been fine had this information not gotten out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 06:49 AM
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I didn't see the interview. Did she cheat on him without his knowledge or was it an open relationship? It's uncommon but not unheard of to have an open relationship. Or a swinger relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 06:11 AM
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TO BE FAIR. She didn't become a crazy murderer until after she caught him cheating. She had some kind of psychotic break after sacrificing her job, house, etc to be with his family in Middle America.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 07:05 PM
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Same as you. Watched my parents relationship. Although she dead bedroomed him and his found a mistress on craigslist. He got caught and did everything he could to earn my mom's forgiveness. He did a lot of research and found a marriage counseling podcast called Marriage Builders. I learned a lot about relationships from that time in my life. Although despite all that I was pretty blue pill prior to coming to reddit. I purpled out slowly as I got more of my own relationship experience and as I le…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 06:58 PM
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It's not purge week, so the OP was trying to make a legit claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 04:02 PM
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I think the meaning has devolved. Any man that compromises anything in a marriage is considered a betabux. If you're not having as much sex as you want in a marriage? Betabux.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 04:01 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/hmm7j7/if_shes_old_enough_to_drive_a_truck_shes_old/ Of course a lot of them end up getting removed from the mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 03:55 PM
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So it's not about genetic legacy? It's just the betrayal?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 03:00 AM
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But you’ll never see people talk about that. Because it never happens. How many Edwards from Twilight do you see walking around?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:52 AM
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Do you realize I'm not the original comment? And also I live in a state with an opioid addiction and overdose crisis, so I would be cautious of anyone taking opioids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:40 AM
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Sounds cool. But people of color can still get skin cancer. It's about 2% of cancer diagnoses in their demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:39 AM
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I should hope over-the-counter drugs aren't conflated with hard drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:36 AM
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Some information that conflicts with that is that there are men who love children who aren't theirs. Men who adopt kids or inherit step kids. I understand why some people want to spread their genetics, but other people, men and women, think the act of raising them is what carries on their legacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:29 AM
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Tbh, they'd all be lesbians if they could.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:25 AM
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Better than throwing him into the incel bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:24 AM
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Does not partake in alcohol or drugs (never has) Really? Drinking with your partner can be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:20 AM
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Don't start arguments for drama. Come to PPD to do that instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:17 AM
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getting the woman to orgasm before PIV Disagree on this one. Much more satisfying to have PIV be part of the build up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 01:20 AM
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Abundance mentality in women means they don't have to get desperate in their pursuit of a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 01:18 AM
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I was dissuaded because I'm in the same relationship I was in at 16. I'm 24 now. I'm sure if I was single I'd still be asking guys out. I like having the control of making my intentions known with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 12:06 AM
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Because we can then pretend the number is astronomically high, while maintaining 'evidence'. Take whatever number women report, and double or triple it because that sounds better for your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 11:57 PM
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I've probably asked guys out on 6 different occasions. 2 of them said no. So that's a 66% success rate. But I don't ask someone out until a LONG period of IOIs. Zero used me for sex because I stopped asking people out when I was 16. Only one turned into a genuine relationship. On the other hand I've probably rejected more like a dozen guys over my lifetime. However most of them were guys who didn't even talk to me until they asked me out. I've rejected people while I'm in a relationship too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 11:52 PM
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I'm talking about the 'cuck' when you raise someone else's kids. Idk if there's a word for it other than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 04:26 PM
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Instead of beating. Imagine if she pushed you onto train tracks and only gave you a few seconds to get out of the way. Still think cheating is more psychologically damaging than that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 04:14 PM
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Thousands of men suffer adultery regularly without getting cucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 04:06 PM
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I heard it from the horse's mouth. Being in a relationship means you have 'one foot out the door'. And being in a marriage closes that door. I think marriage is supposed to be 'whim-proof'. Meaning something that could cause an unmarried couple to break up will not end a marriage and it will give them more motivation to repair.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 05:00 AM
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Because he's working those dangerous jobs in the oil field of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 04:58 AM
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Stigma. There's even still a stigma for having a different last name than your child.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 04:56 AM
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Idk. Makeup is pretty. Just like clothes. You should care what kind of clothes a girl wears. You aren't tryna date the girls who go to the grocery store in their spaghetti strap tops and pajama cookie monster pants. It's all about presentation and effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 04:54 AM
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Clearly every man isn't worried that getting hit by their wife would even hurt the next day. Whereas women imagine being beat up would bring them within an inch of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 04:49 AM
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Of someone else**
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 04:45 AM
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Think of the most masculine actor you know. That's hyper masculine. Hugh Jackman. Rugged, strong, and sharp features. Idk how tall Hugh is though but on screen it doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 04:42 AM
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Older women want grizzled masculine killers. Lol that's Atlas for sure. I don't think I'm old enough to transition to murderous grizzly bear as a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 04:55 PM
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That shit makes my blood boil. I watched the whole police recording of him. Thank God he was a terrible liar, because every move he made incriminated him more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 04:53 PM
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Control. If she's pregnant with his child she won't leave him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 04:47 PM
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IME. Hyper feminine women prefer hyper masculine men. I don't personally subscribe to it, but in public I often hear ditzy bimbo-esque girls accuse men of acting gay for having something pink, etc. Or say they only date 6 ft+ but can't articulate why it's good.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 04:41 PM
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Nope, the baby isn’t entitled to be taken care of just because it exists. If that were the case, social workers and foster care wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 04:31 PM
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OR OR. Men can pay their share for their children and thus the responsibility isn't shirked off to the government and tax payers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 05:05 AM
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The only way this would be EQUAL would be to allow the man the right to physically abort the kid. Physical =/= Financial But you can't force people to do medical procedures. Once the kid is born, men and women have the same rights and responsibilities to the child. That's the way it is, and SHOULD be unless they BOTH relinquish custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 05:03 AM
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I'm on the child's side. They didn't get a choice in their birth, but they exist and require resources. If the mother can't afford the kid on her own income, the kid is going to suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 04:56 AM
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Women have the right to bodily autonomy. They don't have the right to abort it once it's born. I think men should be financially responsible for their offspring. And so should women. The kid doesn't deserve to get shafted just because the dad doesn't want to pay his share.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 04:08 AM
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personal responsibility is a very difficult concept for women to grasp. Same can be said about men who want to abandon their children???
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 03:29 AM
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Because the father doesn't get to fuck over the kid financially just because he's selfish. Emotionally though, that's another story. Definitely legal to fuck your kid over emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 03:11 AM
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I'd predict crime skyrocketing. Just based on the effects abortion had on crime, I imagine women raising children on one income invites perpetual poverty. Single income 'family' still means one family member is rearing the children full time. That shit costs money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 03:07 AM
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You don't have to be a father to a child, but you gotta pay for your offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 03:03 AM
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She can't give the baby to the father without going through pregnancy. If she could, they would have the same rights. That's why they don't have the same 'number' of options. It's neurotic to fixate on the NUMBER of options when men and women don't spend the same resources BIRTHING the child. If men carried the child inside them they would have the same NUMBER of rights. But they don't, and I imagine won't advocate for the advent of male pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 03:00 AM
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I know the average is about $430 per month. But that's across all incomes. I just don't know what the detriments are to a child if the one parents makes enough to support the child, and the other parents spends as the same amount of time with the kid but makes more money. Is it because the kid would favor the rich parent over the poor one? Why should it be relative to income and not simply the 'average cost of raising a child'?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 02:56 AM
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What is the intent of child support? That website suggested it's to maintain the same standard of living in both households. Which would explain why the individual who makes more money has to pay relative to their income.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 02:42 AM
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Go ahead and claim 'my body my choice' when you evade taxes. People pay taxes even though they'd rather keep their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 02:36 AM
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It's strange that joint custody still results in child support. I would think it would be classified as something different if one parent had to pay the other CS. I assumed you only had a right to pursue child support if you had sole custody. But even if a man is spending the same money on his child as the mother AND spending the same amount of time with them, a woman can still pursue child support if he makes more money. I know child support is necessary but when it's ultimate goal is: The ulti…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 02:33 AM
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Women get to choose whether or not to birth the child. Men don't have to choose whether or not they carry the child to term. Because they don't have the child inside them. After that, the woman can choose to keep it or can give it to the father and she can pay child support. Or they can both agree to adoption. The father also can get joint custody if he has also been a primary care giver since the birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 02:16 AM
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It's not a CMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 02:04 AM
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Everyone in my family prior to 1960 stayed married Less individualism back then. These days relationships are more about making you haaappy as opposed to creating structure in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 02:01 AM
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I think they are used to the scenarios where women already have full custody of their children. Women have more 'rights' than a man when they have full custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 01:59 AM
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Because otherwise the taxpayer has to support the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 10:25 PM
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If someone sues for child support they should be able to get it. Man or woman. I think most people settle child support out of court. My brother doesn't even pay for his daughter because the mother never took him to court.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 09:38 PM
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If a woman gives up custody to the father she still has to pay child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 09:25 PM
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the adoption agency must search Illinois’ Putative Father Registry prior to filing a petition to terminate parental rights. At least one search must be conducted no later than 30 days after the relinquished newborn’s estimated date of birth. Nothing in the Act prohibits DCFS or the adoption agency from conducting earlier searches. If a potential putative father is identified, he will be provided with notice of the relinquishment. In order for the abandoned child to be put in the system, they sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 08:29 PM
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Not if the father is on the birth certificate. He'd be able to claim custody and sue for child support. But if they both agree then they can surrender the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 08:20 PM
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I can see why Safe Haven exists. If you penalized a parent from surrendering their child they don't want, then they would just abandon it to die elsewhere. So maybe it's like a crackhead woman who is homeless and can't keep it. Idk. It's for the kind of people who would leave their child in a dumpster. If there was a way to penalize them for abandonment and keep the baby from dying in a dumpster, I'm all ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 07:34 PM
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I assume the reason financial abortion isn't a thing is because there are more men who actually want rights to their child than not. Genetic legacy, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 07:19 PM
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If a father didn't go looking for his abandoned child, he didn't give a shit to begin with. Hey I'm all for charging a woman with neglect and reckless endangerment for abandoning their child in a parking lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 07:18 PM
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you can dump the thing in a Walmart and go about your day So where's the father? Not looking for his missing child? EDIT: And the average monthly child support payment is $430, which probably covers HALF of what a child needs. An average annual cost (of children) of almost $17,000.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 07:13 PM
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would men in that world have any grounds to demand access their children? Those aren't the same men in favor of financial abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 07:03 PM
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The logic is that women can't financially abort their child once it exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 07:02 PM
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It's not equal. Men don't have to carry the child inside them. Women cannot financially abort their children unless the father also agrees to it. That's called adoption. That's fair. Otherwise the mother is just as on the hook for providing for their child as the father is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 07:01 PM
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I think there are probably some moral issues to argue behind incentivizing abortions. But the bottom line is that the government would rather have the biological father pay for a child then the tax payer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 06:57 PM
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Not since the advent of abortion. And the morning after pill. And birth control. There are are lot of things someone can do to prevent having to go through pregnancy and labor and prevent a child from ever being born. Once a child is born that's a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 06:54 PM
1

Why? Because it would save both you and her time when you could have found someone who actually shares your values.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 06:16 PM
0

That's why you get a vasectomy and never tell a soul about it. There's nothing more fun that a girl trying to baby trap you when you're shooting blanks. Why not just tell the women and weed out the ones who want children from the beginning? Might even be a deterrent for cheating if they know you are sterile.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:34 PM
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Because she has to birth it. People who have abortions don't want to BIRTH a child. If it was just about not wanting the child, they could put it up for adoption. It's the 9 months of pregnancy and birth they don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:32 PM
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As far as I know, they are allowed to deny paternity tests. In France, yes. But not in the US. In fact if a man goes to court over paternity they do the test! The reason men want mandatory tests is because they know how damaging it would be to you relationship to suggest your wife cheated on you. So they want someone else to say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 04:54 PM
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implicit threats to your job and livelihood Just like child support and cuckholdry right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 04:50 PM
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Jesus Christ. Who are these Chads you are referring to? I've never met one in my life. Now either that means they are extremely uncommon to the point where it's moot to bring them up, or they don't actually have as much influence as you say they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 03:41 PM
1

That is a terrible situation. You should be able to sue someone who tampered with birth control. However proving that someone poked holes in condoms is extremely difficult to prove.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 03:28 PM
1

responsible for the results. Both men and women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 03:19 PM
1

And then there's my brother who knocked up a good Christian girl that wasn't even allowed to use birth control. And he thought she'd have an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 03:12 PM
1

Poliomyelitis is highly contagious via the fecal-oral (intestinal source) and the oral-oral (oropharyngeal source) routes.[20] In endemic areas, wild polioviruses can infect virtually the entire human population. I'm googling polio and I don't see how pesticides cause it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 03:43 AM
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That's the whole argument to pro choice. Is that it's not the same thing as a child who has been born. There's a medical difference between all these stages of life, which is why we have different words. If unborn children are morally equivalent to born people, why aren't we devoting tremendous research dollars to stopping miscarriages?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:34 AM
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True. But you can't force someone to undergo a medical procedure. Men should probably figure out a woman's stance on abortion before they have unprotected sex. Just to cover their bases.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:26 AM
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If fertilized eggs are morally equivalent to born people, why aren't we devoting tremendous research dollars to stopping miscarriages? The reality people on both sides of the argument will still prioritize a birthed child above a fetus.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:10 AM
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Not nearly as many men are devastated at an abortion as there are men who wish they could financially abort. That's the whole point of this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 01:19 AM
3

I have never seen a man complain about that. That sounds much more like a fringe case.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 12:13 AM
4

Men complain that a whole slew of their problems are because of single motherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 12:09 AM
3

Every time a woman 'opts out' the man is opting out too by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 12:08 AM
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None of what you said suggests women go to a clinic 5 times a year. In fact, the charts you linked point to a historic low for abortions. 51% of abortion patients were using a contraceptive method in the month they became pregnant And the data even shows half of them used birth control and still got pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 11:55 PM
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a lot of women use it as birth control A LOT of women? Any statistic for that? I've never known a person to do this. You'd be an absolute moron to choose abortions over normal contraceptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 11:27 PM
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You think men don't lie to women they are cheating on? That's rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 11:07 PM
3

They are both things that an individual might not want in their body.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:42 PM
2

Because then she can make the best decision for her body and birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:39 PM
3

Except for the men who don't want to raise their own children. Which is the whole point of financial abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:35 PM
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Polio used to be a fact of life until we vaccinated. Medical intervention changes things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:30 PM
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People do use that logic to not have sex with kids. Your logic would say "I can fuck a kid since the only difference between a child and adult is time."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:20 PM
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woman has a secret agenda But I don't think that's always the case. Women would get upset that you wouldn't disclose your birth control yet would expect her to disclose hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:18 PM
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Because they don't even have fully formed brains and a heart. That's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:13 PM
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Wasn't me, dog. I wasn't the one in this comment chain until just now. So you want to ban abortion as a punishment for women? Except doesn't that mean both the mother, father AND child get punished with an unwanted pregnancy? Sounds like men lose in that arrangement too. I assume most men who aren't vindictive towards women want abortions to be legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:10 PM
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tells me I’m the evil spawn of satan Idk why she'd call you evil since she didn't want kids. But really you're just wasting your own time if you are biding your time and withholding this information if you truly just want a woman who is content without children. Idk though, I'm not a serial dater.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:08 PM
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You're right assuming either scenario ends in a break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:04 PM
2

Why don't we make abortions illegal? Why would we?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:02 PM
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The logic of these men is that women don't have to deal with the consequences since they can abort the child if they choose. Therefore it's not fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:01 PM
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So she discloses that she is on birth control, and you refuse to disclose that you are shooting blanks? You can see how that doesn't seem fair, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:58 PM
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difference between a fetus and an adult And also whether or not it can live unattached from its mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:56 PM
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I think they get more upset that you didn't disclose something so important. All this time they were thinking they needed birth control, so by you not telling them that you were sterile you rob them of the opportunity to not have hormonal birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:53 PM
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Oh I'm sure this will be a productive discussion. Is woman bad? Or is man bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:47 PM
6

Men seem to lie to themselves about the same stuff when it comes to their female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:46 PM
2

In my opinion that's worse. I'd be more fucked up if I knew my partner was on websites meeting women for an affair than if he screwed a coworker. Both suck but the choice to put yourself in the circumstance to cheat is just something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:22 PM
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You think they are fabricating stories of affairs just to sell nude pics to other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:18 PM
2

cold, calculated, nonchalance exhibited by its members is unsettling Same with TRP, which is why /r/PurplePillDebate exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:13 PM
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This. Flirting with a single man could be unpredictable. They could be desperate or extreme. But if you know he's got a wife then it's likely he's not gonna stalk you. And this is assuming you want to flirt merely for validation, not to actually pursue someone. Which is why a lot of people engage in flirtatious banter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:05 PM
1

I'd suck anybody's dick if they brought me coffee in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 06:26 PM
3

Women do not initiate more breakups in non marital relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 06:15 PM
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I don't think the man's personality changes. Or at least not at the request of his wife. It's the quality of time they spend together that changes over time. Undivided attention becomes rarer and rarer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 04:58 PM
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From what I've seen from anonymous apps like Whisper: Just because your wife treats you well and keeps you satisfied doesn't mean you won't cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 04:08 PM
1

Guess there's a self imposed time limit on that relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 04:04 PM
13

/r/deadbedrooms. It's pretty common to end up in a sexless marriage, especially after kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 04:01 PM
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They didn't have anything else to be proud of.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 06:35 PM
1

What timeframe we talking here? Because I'm sure 40 years ago the numbers were drastically different.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 04:20 PM
1

The best men are the men who have a mix of alpha and beta traits. Whatever you want to label them. Beta doesn't mean bad or low value. It's merely the antithesis of performative masculinity. For women who don't want a partner who is 'captain of their ship' this is ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 04:18 PM
1

I remember when the article on Aziz came out. That was the straw that broke for most people. People who hadn't spoken against me too before finally said, "That was a bad date. You had a bad date. He didn't assault you."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 12:58 AM
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They do. Every woman on PPD, every time this comes up, says they care about the men in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 12:37 AM
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Because there are more women in a man's life than just the ones he wants to screw.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 11:57 PM
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I care very much about the wants, needs and desires of my partner. And I'd extend that to most of the men I know. If I can improve their lives without compromising my own needs, then I'm all for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 11:53 PM
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Find me one bio that says "eat sleep and laugh".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 10:26 PM
2

Am woman. Don't believe. A few of my 'spiritual' friends believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 10:24 PM
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astrology You can't deny that anyone who legitimately believes in astrology is dense. Each starsign is vague enough to have characteristics that could apply to anyone. The only thing that has an impact on your life is if you were born in the Chinese Year of the Dragon. That's BECAUSE affluent couples will literally wait to have children until that year. Therefore conflating privilege and money with that zodiac.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 08:50 PM
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There are just some things that you don't necessarily share with your best friend You can share anything with anyone if you choose to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 08:44 PM
1

Did /u/gayadamlanza get banned?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 08:34 PM
1

rather than investing their efforts in psychological manipulation and lies Cause then they get their dick wet? Sex validates men because it shows they have influence over someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 08:18 PM
6

Although I agree that Fraiser is good, funny writing is not the same as being a comedian. And being funny in conversation is different from those two as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 08:11 PM
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Nobody has to develop humor. It's more like they made someone laugh once and realized they valued being able to do it. I'll never forget what it was like to make an entire classroom laugh with a single comment. Ironically I thought I was an introvert back then. Through developing humor I was able to become more extroverted because it was always a quick way to extinguish uncomfortable feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 08:07 PM
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There also aren't a lot of attractive male comedians. There is some aspect of comedy that requires empathy. And if they look like an underdog, you're more receptive to their plights.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 07:56 PM
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I'm not even 25 yet and I still thinks it's creepy. Like a man collecting women like trophies for his wall. no stretch marks, cellulite And women get this from puberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 06:18 AM
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That was it. Women acknowledge that it's easy to get sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 06:15 AM
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shaming doesn't work on men I wonder why this post exists then.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 06:09 AM
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women seriously have zero idea how easy they have it About what? Getting sex? No woman here would say "it's hard for me to get a high N-Count".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 06:02 AM
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He's saying he has the emotional maturity of a 16 year old. So really it's the older women who are pedos for a guy who is 28 but feels 16.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 04:19 AM
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You're the one who made the post about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 04:13 AM
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You'll have to blame the creepy 40 year olds who use teens for sex for ruining it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 04:02 AM
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About 50% of relationships involve a man being older than the woman. About 6% of relationships the man is 10 years older, whereas only 1% of women are 10 years older. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 03:46 AM
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You misunderstood. It's in nobody's interest to force a minor to drive against their better judgement. However it is in the interest of a man who is sexually attracted to a minor to coerce them into sex or a relationship. This shame towards older men who seek out teens is directed at the kind of men who use and abuse girls for their own interest. Haven't seen a lot of 40 year olds marry these teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 03:42 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 03:33 AM
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And does that apply to to older women that pursue guys who’ve recently passed the age of consent? Yeah. It's just less common.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 03:15 AM
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You can't coerce people into driving the same way you can coerce them into sex. But the bigger problem people have is the age difference. The power dynamic that comes into play when one person has much more experience than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 02:53 AM
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We'd be selling more dildos than vibrators. Women can stimulate their clitoris during sex whenever they want. If anything, it would increase the need for men to perform during sex, since women can't pick up the slack and make themselves orgasm if they can't reach. So that makes for a whole new dynamic of bad sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 02:14 AM
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Incels make fake accounts on tinder as fat women, beautiful women, attractive men. So that's their data. Catfishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 02:11 AM
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Just googled it and she shows how fit she is to promote her diet. I imagine she makes money through sponsorship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 06:58 PM
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I'd attribute it to some sort of resource guarding. And in this instance 'innocence' is a resource in your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 05:57 PM
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What maturity are you seeing in your son that you don't see in your daughters?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 05:51 PM
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It's that "protecting" your daughter has to have some sort of sexual component. But you aren't the beneficiary of this sexual component. The drive to protect your daughter in this way is to keep people from seeing her as a sexual being.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 05:50 PM
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By your standards, you'd be a bad partner because you fantasize about other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 04:38 PM
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You sure do have high disgust.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 04:34 PM
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My choice for a child would never be in consideration of their dating life. I used to think I would want a daughter because she would be like me, but I don't feel too strongly either way anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 04:30 PM
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I asked my boyfriend and he said he couldn't remember any instance where either of his parents tried to instill values in him this way. His mom was so disengaged with his social life that she said he could have been gay for all she knew.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 06:45 PM
0

Beta doesn't mean nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 06:18 PM
0

How common is it that boys go to their parents for dating advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 05:52 PM
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Why? Why does anal tarnish you in some way? It can get fecal matter everywhere. I think I'd consider sheets with shit on them 'tarnished'. But it also can physically hurt if you aren't relaxed, turned on, enough lube, etc. It's REAL easy to make anal one of the most painful sensations ever. When it's done wrong, it's like your asshole is being ripped and even when the object isn't in it anymore, your body still radiates pain from the butt.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:19 PM
0

Are alphas disgusted by their wives for the same reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:28 AM
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The duality of sexual deviancy is that men feel more loved when women do it for them and these women feel less loved when men ask them to do it. And even I would feel the same way if I was asked to do something I deemed too unpleasant. The difference lies in what women actually enjoy participating in.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:22 AM
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How many women actually have anal with their first partners, TELL their husband, AND THEN refuse to do anal with him? It's bonkers that this scenario keeps coming up. I have no frame of reference for how common it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:13 AM
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So women will understandably be more open to these kinds of sexual activities with men that they would not want to be impregnated by. Your theory falls apart because generally woman who have anal also have PIV sex with the same man. IME. I think a lot of sexual things are experimented with early in relationships because of the honeymoon phase. The novelty and mystique of anal might make it worth the potential prep/mess/pain. But I imagine it's exceptionally rare for most women to physically enjo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:10 AM
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I guess if you flip the question and as "what WOULD make my wife let me stick it in her ass?" You'd be asking a much more constructive question to help you achieve your goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:03 AM
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It ain't the common cold. Child birth used to kill mothers who bled out. It permanently scars your body, and can require surgery. That's a lot to go through for a child you don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 02:53 AM
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At least the unemployment rate would improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 02:48 AM
1

That's an interesting scenario. It really hits the attack on character aspect. Even if you never have nor never will, it's a betrayal by your partner to suggest you are capable of doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 02:42 AM
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We live in a world where neither the government nor society expects women to abort their children. A mother cannot financially abandon a born child anymore than the father can. As far as I understand it, a mother cannot put a child up for adoption if the father has parental rights. As far as a man not getting a say in abortion, I think that falls under reproductive coercion for him to force a woman to go through a pregnancy she can opt out of.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 03:32 AM
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Men and women benefit from medical abortions. Women do not benefit from financial abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 02:46 AM
1

You will certainly find different people value different things to different degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 05:23 PM
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The dinner isn't sex. That man wasn't gonna have sex with her and he wanted to have dinner anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 05:39 PM
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Oh it definitely was because he would wait for me outside until I came out of my building. And he'd walk with me the whole way. After he brought up his vasectomy I told him that he should stop following me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 04:09 PM
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No. I had a dude who followed me to my car everyday after class. He seemed like a harmless neckbeard. One day he asked me to go to the cafe on campus and was about to pay for my drink but I refused. I didn't want to owe him a cent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 04:07 PM
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they should start getting for n-count more strictly. This sentence makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 03:25 AM
1

I would probably not approach someone shy. Because making someone uncomfortable would make me uncomfortable. UNLESS he was giving me clear indications of interest. For a shy guy it's hard to imagine what those would be beyond exchanging glances.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 09:12 PM
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You're not going to be the same person your whole life, so it's worth considering trying new things and behaviors to see if that's something you'd want to adopt. It's like saying, "Eating junk food for every meal is who I am."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 09:08 PM
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You don't get to have your cake and eat it too. Men seem to think so. That casual sex is empowering for men because you have to work hard to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 09:03 PM
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How would you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 08:30 PM
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Of course not. But there's such a thing as staring too much. And that applies to more than just cleavage. Women are unsettled by men who ignore social cues, and staring rudely at someone is one of those cues.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 08:23 PM
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This is why people looks match so they don't have to wonder something like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 08:21 PM
1

Feminine features on men don't make them look man or woman. It turns to uncanny valley if you have a mixture of both characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 05:01 PM
0

I just think on the whole men and women are more attracted to the female form. Not just sexually motivated, but just... attracted and drawn to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 03:49 PM
4

I wouldn’t want to be with someone else for a long long time after they died. You might not even have a long long time left before you die. I'm sure your own partner dying reminds you of your own mortality better than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 03:42 PM
2

There is more art of women than there is art of men. And that's coming from a woman who likes to draw women. They are aesthetically pleasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 03:39 PM
1

There's definitely some men who take pride in having a wife that everyone desires. Pre selection and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 03:45 PM
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It doesn't matter what the guys intention is with the drink. He offers, she says sure, and then she fucks off. He's down a drink because he offered it to someone he didn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 03:33 PM
6

Why would a woman drive to a motel to have sex with her husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:36 AM
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I'm a woman and I don't. Tbh, it would make me jealous and insecure and I'd always think in the back of my head that he'd be comparing me to the dozens of other girls he'd been with. And even more nuanced, I'd feel like some outsider to a 'club' of all the women he had been with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:32 AM
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No. Which is why they don't repeat the behavior in the next relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:29 AM
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Or it's like "I bought my ex a car and she ran me over with it. So I no longer buy cars for people." That's the analogy for sex acts that women tried and didn't like, thus don't want to relive them in their new relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:22 AM
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they should just go be with those people rather than trying to force someone to do what they don't want to And this is why the divorce rate is so high. People unwilling to compromise for someone they love. I don't fathom how a woman can say she loves her husband, hear his pleas for sex and affection, and then continuously reject him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:18 AM
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Sex isn't just about the physical act. It's intimacy. It's acceptance. Men are extremely validated to know they are desired by their partner. To reject someone sexually is very disheartening. Would you say 'too bad so sad' to a woman whose husband doesn't tell her he thinks she's beautiful?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:06 AM
4

And there are 263k people on the subreddit alone who are doing not fine without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 03:12 AM
2

What's the stat on young women who didn't have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 03:10 AM
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It's learned behavior. Fear of rejection is 'evolutionarily' useful because it keeps you from being ostracized from the group.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 11:12 PM
7

The only red pill equivalent I personally can think of is something I actually learned from /r/deadbedrooms. Sex is the pulse of a relationship. And I think a lot of women are oblivious or ambivalent to the consequence of losing sexual desire for your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 11:09 PM
3

The men in that clip are keeping their feelings to themselves. None of them are approaching the girl. The joke is poking fun at real feelings men secretly have and keep amongst themselves. You can write a paper on how their behavior is creepy, but it's not any more sexist than two people making eyes at each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 09:38 PM
2

By that logic, two people who are attracted to each other and staring at each other from across the room are BOTH sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 09:32 PM
7

I guess it's sexist in that your attraction to someone creates an affinity for them over the same sex. But that makes sexist a pretty useless word.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 09:30 PM
2

They clocked me hard. But they just assumed I was a TRP dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 09:24 PM
6

Seems like you're discriminating against people's sexual orientation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 09:17 PM
3

sex·ist /ˈseksist/ adjective characterized by or showing prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex. How is it discriminating or disparaging women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 09:09 PM
1

Why would you call out other women for having too high of standards? That just means they end up alone and you get to choose from all the men they thought they were too good for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 03:48 PM
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The men here do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 03:41 PM
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They are certainly idealistic in comparison to TRP. Not believing or knowing of TRP is the only qualifier that classifies you as Blue Pill, and that is such a large group of people with opinions that it wouldn't be accurate to classify them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 10:06 PM
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the ugliest women they can find on the internet, put them on tinder, Tinder is another qualifier. By being on tinder you are already in the mindset of assessing people as sexual and romantic partners. You aren't approaching people in person that you don't deem pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 09:54 PM
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You've definitely explained yourself well. Although if I understand right, you're advocating for a lifestyle where two partners both work full time and keep their assets mostly separate. I think there's potential for that kind of relationship. However I think the concept of having children becomes a point of contention here. If you want a woman who wants kids, you'd be hard pressed to find one who doesn't value you in the provider role. Show her you have other options every so often without thro…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 09:57 PM
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Well said. Trust is simply a propability. Perhaps the idea of a truly accepting and loyal partnership is idealistic to the point of failure. And I understand what you're saying. But can treating your partner as if they will abandon you negatively affect the health and longevity of your relationship? Are you taking into account how you impact that result, or are you just focusing on protecting yourself and your assets? For the average person, that would come across as insecurity, not acceptance o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 08:35 PM
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It's a self fulfilling prophecy if you refuse to take any risks. That lack of trust is going to create relationship insecurity which can end the relationship and thus prove that you were right not to trust. I can't imagine there's a single happy couple where they don't trust each other and their relationship thrives in spite of that. Sounds more like an arranged marriage where they forsake any love or attraction for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 06:33 PM
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who don't really get a pick of who they date. I don't feel like I get a pick of who I date either. I'm not getting a line of suitors at my door. I honestly got lucky that the one guy I committed to ended up being so level headed and good natured.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 06:21 PM
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The consequence of believing AWALT is to live in a neurotic state of risk aversion that keeps you from actually forming a healthy relationship with a partner. Trust is high risk, high reward. The risk is abandonment, the reward is devotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 06:17 PM
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This is not a state that can be extended forever tho. yet, women seem to expect men to always be creating that, or are always in charge of the excitement factor. Men expect porn star horniness from their women, yet it's not a state that can be extended forever. Cause and effect. If you aren't making her feel special, she's not gonna get tingles for you. And if she doesn't touch your dick, you're not gonna want to make her feel special. Thus the dead bedroom phenomena.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 06:16 PM
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Even as a recent college grad, I don't see many incels. I've seen a guy who I'd SWEAR couldn't get a girlfriend because of his lazy eye and giant nose and chin, but he lived with a girlfriend for like a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 06:11 PM
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Hope for the best I don't get a sense of hope from the ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 06:09 PM
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any pretty woman You've already added a qualifier. The woman has to be pretty for you to assess them as a partner. The man has to be handsome or interesting in some way to be assessed as a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 04:16 PM
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I agree. If someone wished to make amends for an emotional affair it would feel like they hadn't done as much damage if they didn't go through with sleeping with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 03:09 AM
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If both result in a termination of the relationship, it really doesn't matter which is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 01:38 AM
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For a man, it doesn't matter if she didn't have feelings for the guy when she slept with him. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 01:37 AM
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To be frank I actually hate getting hugs from tall people. You get smushed into their shoulders. It always feels like I'm getting punched in the nose or throat.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 11:46 PM
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I would probably put 5'6'' as my minimum. I'm 5'2''.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 09:55 PM
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Well she's a softcore porn star. Reddit made her famous and she kept the attention by continuing to do absurd and unexpected things. She actually was a big trendsetter with her style and she popularized stuff like ahegao.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 03:43 AM
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She's different than other celebrities in that she keeps her personal life and, even personal thoughts, hidden. She doesn't vlog, she doesn't do interviews. What she shows you is highly curated, highly intentional content. I'd argue lots of instagram models are personas. I'm not disparaging her for it, I'm saying it's an illusion and you'd be wrong to conflate it with any goals for intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 03:39 AM
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She's South African.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 03:13 AM
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Some evidence that it wasn't pre-recorded is the lyrics use the word 'simp' and I don't think that was common 7 months ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 03:13 AM
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By what?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 03:04 AM
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I'm sure you'd see fat left over on her belly if she had a child within the year.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 12:48 AM
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This woman is gaming the system. Her personal interests don't have to line up with the interests her demographic. She is a persona. Nobody wants her as a wife because she's not real. She's an anime fantasy and she's getting paid to tell you what you want to hear. But listen to those lyrics, she's self aware as hell and running all the way to the bank.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 11:04 PM
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“thirsty” is just a baseline lust that all humans have. Nah. Men and women have different sex drives. The average woman does not think about sex as often as men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 08:57 PM
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they choose them for their potential to make good mothers That doesn't explain the subreddit /r/Bois There's a whole fetish for women who lack strong female sex characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 08:55 PM
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Why do you bother to ask their height if it's trivial?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 08:51 PM
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People who are naturally attractive and learn charisma at a very young age.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 02:42 AM
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Thanks for the source!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 02:41 AM
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Some men who are resistant towards commitment have had terrible examples set of what marriages look like. Some people are raised in a family where their parents clearly make each other unhappy, and so one might resist that. Other men might have an invisible framework of how they think their life should go, and they have decided that marriage won't happen until X years of dating or reaching X age.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 07:37 PM
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Has there been a study?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 07:34 PM
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Keep your standards high. Just don't be afraid to be alone the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:06 PM
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Revenge fantasy. Tingles say otherwise Did it happen to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 04:36 PM
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Is that the same for women too?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 04:32 PM
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He was a virgin. Honestly it even bothers me a little to know he touched another girl's boobs. Just kind of weirds me out to imagine him enjoying another person the way he enjoys me. I also think if my partner had a higher N count I would have FOMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 04:29 PM
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The average woman is a serial monogamist. That's what I was thinking. Probably an N count under 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 03:12 PM
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We must have different understandings of how much sex the average woman is having.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 03:04 PM
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Yeah the average weight for men in their 50s is 200 lbs. And the average height is 5'9'' which has a healthy weight range of 125 lbs to 160 lbs. And women have this problem too. We got a problem here in America. North America also has the highest percentage of people who are overweight, with 73.9 percent classed as such. You can probably find more attractive older people in other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 04:05 PM
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Men who age well, age well. But in my lived experience, it's like a 50/50 shot you'll look good in your 40s and 50s. If you suffer from baldness, get fat, don't take care of your skin etc. You're gonna lower your SMV. That applies to women too. Shakira and Jennifer Lopez are 43 and 50 respectively. They put a lot of resources into maintaining their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 03:53 PM
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That's not the only thing all men want from women. That scenario might work out for you, but other men value companionship, partnership, and combining their resources. Not to mention fatherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 03:48 PM
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If females are incomplete, explain your useless nipples, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 06:56 AM
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What kind of dumbass Olympics contest is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 05:55 AM
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Did you think she was actually trans or do you think the post was a lie like she said?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 05:01 AM
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I think trans rights activists are borderline lunatics. They totalitarian and would punish people for thought crime if they could. People try to cancel others over anything. It really loses it's impact. The only people who need 'cancelling' are the people who use their platforms to actively harm people. Like pedos. Stating an opinion is not harming people. Trans people can live as the opposite sex, but they can't infringe on other people's lives and tell them how to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 04:54 AM
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I'd love to see you call these Becky's out on social media. Tell them how racist they are because they don't want to touch your dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:27 PM
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Your motivation to make this thread shows you want white women and aren't satisfied with other races. Sounds preferential to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:23 PM
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Aren't you being racist for preferring white women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:20 PM
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I don't only like one race. But the number of black men I'm attracted to is few and far between. Like I'm into Donald Glover and Idris Elba, but I have never met a black man in person I was into. I don't think that's racist. I think it's just part of our physiology.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:18 PM
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Idk man. I don't think it's racist to not be attracted to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:02 PM
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to send her hamster spinning to make her believe he might actually be interested in an LTR if she can just win him over. Haha the plot of 50 Shades Darker.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 01:46 PM
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It's usually men who say they had 'the one that got away'. So I think it has more to do with the man's choices versus the quality of the woman he was with. He probably wanted to keep slutting around which is why he pumped and dumped a woman that ultimately he would have wanted to settle down with once he had his share of debauchery.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 10:54 PM
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All marriages fail, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 07:19 PM
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build full relationships with other people It's no more secure than a monogamous relationship. He can still find someone else he'd prioritize over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 06:02 PM
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Men don't want to pay prostitutes for the rest of their lives in order to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 05:52 PM
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Certainly not ride or die.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 05:49 PM
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My boyfriend just said he wouldn't help me bury a body so I guess I found his unforgivable flaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 05:46 PM
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As long as I am getting what Same. The reality is that most people's flaws are what actively get in the way of what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 05:37 PM
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Same logic is applied to women as well. Something about pairbonding getting weaker the more partners you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 05:36 PM
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However, I think as long as prostitution exists, men whether they are ugly or not will have options to have sex without having to put in the necessary that entails regular courtships. That's not the only thing men want though. They want a companion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 05:35 PM
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I difference between 50 Shades and Knocked Up is that the latter is actually a comedy. 50 Shades had no other plot elements other than romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 05:22 PM
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Women don't want to watch 10/10s hooking Chad. That's probably true. I imagine the reverse is true as well. That a story about Chad hooking up with an attractive woman wouldn't resonate with you as much as someone who looked more like you hooking up with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 05:12 PM
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I think it comes from the notion that healthy relationships involve sex and sexual attraction. So if people like each other, why wouldn't they want more of each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 05:09 PM
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What decision? To not know who you are? That's not a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 05:07 PM
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That's because the books are written by authors who self inserted themselves. But the movies still pick very attractive women for the role in Twilight and 50 Shades. They actively dress the women down to make them look plain in comparison. But it really just comes down to wardrobe and makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 04:49 PM
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Ugly actresses with attractive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 04:28 PM
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If the woman gave her youth to other man, she can't give me her best. Something about this seems paradoxical. A woman can't stop aging, and she doesn't have all of her romantic partners available at one instance in time to CHOOSE the one she knows she is going to be with the rest of her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 04:04 PM
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They would if you told them everything you're thinking. But you don't tell your partner "I'm with you because you don't have any negative behavioral patterns yet. But after a few years with me, you'll be just like everyone else."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 04:02 PM
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ALL men do not fall into these two categories. Men who marry their first sexual partner are neither alpha or beta. They got what the alpha seeks when it comes to marriage. But they don't tie their value to their number of sexual partners like alpha does.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 04:00 PM
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The Chad they are talking about is the dream man of every single woman ever. At any given time ALL women are sexually attracted to him. So he has sex with all the women and then goes and finds one that is fresh out of high school. That's the caricature you're dealing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 03:56 PM
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Not everyone wants kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 03:46 PM
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In the words of /u/YveisGrey A car doesn’t have to choose you but a woman does.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 06:05 AM
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That means you don't either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 05:51 AM
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And the same can be said that male sluts are more likely to cheat on you than chaste ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 05:49 AM
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So you admit it's purely psychological?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 05:47 AM
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And women increase in value over time because of their lived experiences and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 05:44 AM
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You can have whatever preferences you want in a partner. Everyone is entitled to that. It's when you tactlessly announce them that you will get push back. Because opinions are like assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 03:53 AM
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You accuse women of being stoic in breakups but applaud men for being stoic in break ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 03:51 AM
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these same global platforms also tell men that “slut shaming” I disagree. Men should be slut shamed just as much as women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 03:49 AM
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If the beta guy has to wait until his 30s just to get what he’s wanted all of his life from a woman Don't most guys serial date? The guys I know either have a LTR, multiple over a few years, or are hitting up tinder successfully. TRP makes me question if I'm hanging out with above average people, because I'm not seeing this borderline incel struggle in the guys I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 03:47 AM
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Read: young and dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 03:45 AM
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Do women really reject a man and then try to date the man decades later? TRP makes it seem really common that women pull out the yearbook whenever they hit 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 03:44 AM
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having female companionship I suppose this is just a question of value. Not everyone seems to like female companionship in the same regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 03:41 AM
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Just hypocritical is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 03:40 AM
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Yeah I have an easier time being content than my boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 11:42 PM
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girls are more cold. huh what pussy spends months preparing to break up Seems like you're pretty cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 11:40 PM
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Someone who is not cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 04:46 PM
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Idk why these people even leave their houses if they are so risk averse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 01:37 AM
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when it’s over, it’s over for them. I'm sure men feel this way to when they initiate a break up. They get to spend months emotionally preparing themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 01:36 AM
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Technically I'm with beta bux on account of him financially providing for me. However we still have sex every week. I do love him, but he definitely pushes me away at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 04:27 AM
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So even when they say , for example, that their body count is “6” — even though 18 dicks actually went inside them, they GENUINELY believe it’s 6. Unsubstantiated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 07:33 PM
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Me too homie. Although I did have middle school boyfriends I kissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 06:35 PM
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24F N =1 I bet that explains my comments for a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 06:35 PM
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I don't think we have a problem with underpopulation. And we, for the most part, practice monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 03:40 PM
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I'm gonna say 2 is more likely to cheat because he could already have cheated by the time he dates you. He's older and has gained more sexual partners. I imagine 1 can be effected by FOMO, but so can you as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 03:36 PM
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she met the new guy while she was married It doesn't say that anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 03:34 PM
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I'm trying to put myself in that scenario. The only way I can imagine feeling ungrateful for my boyfriend fighting on my behalf is if I deemed the fight to be foolish and unnecessary. Otherwise I would be grateful that he was protecting me, and honestly I would have a lot of guilt for putting him in that position. Maybe those women feel self hatred and guilt and that's why they don't feel grateful. Idk. Perhaps they were disillusioned and had these unrealistic expectations for their boyfriend. U…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 08:22 PM
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Its amazing how her being open and honest about things and her past has made me trust her fully. What was this about?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 07:36 PM
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Ah yes. The balls. But in all seriousness. I wouldn't want a partner who was only assertive. I'd want someone who could turn it on and off. Just like stoicism has it's benefits for at least giving the illusion of control in situations. To be the 'rock' for people. But I would want someone who could turn it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 07:32 PM
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This woman is an outlier to begin with considering she's a professional fighter. Of course she's gonna have higher expectations of masculinity. She's so masculine herself. And I imagine she's in a lot of social circles that continue to promote that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 07:31 PM
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Your probably think radfems and libfems are the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 07:23 PM
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Seems pretty lonely to have to lie and hide your feelings from your own life partner. I'd rather grow to understand that other person better than anyone else instead of feeling like an outsider.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 07:21 PM
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Assertive in sex =/= stoic
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 07:18 PM
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You kiss your mother with that mouth? Your mother has worth to you and you're not touching her pussy. Except for that one time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 07:11 PM
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Perhaps, and this is a stretch, old women are helped crossing the street because the do more shopping and therefore are walking around more. So you're more likely to run into an old lady getting from place to place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 07:10 PM
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That's why people save up 401Ks and retirement. To be able to be cared for in old age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 07:08 PM
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What is bonding for a man? I'm not sure if a man's love isn't transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 04:36 AM
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Seems disingenuous to say that men don't want sex as part of their romantic fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 08:01 PM
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Which is better? Well, which would you rather show to your kids? Idk why you'd question which sexual fantasy is appropriate for children.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 05:15 PM
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Don't women also want to be loved unconditionally?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 05:03 PM
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men who genuinely like their partners are very very rare. I've found that to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 04:09 PM
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I'm surprised you think TRP is a place where they don't use shaming language to make men feel unmanly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 07:03 AM
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What's an average libido for a woman, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 07:02 AM
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the non RP call those, who do things outside of fucking, "gay", "hurt" Is this a typo or do you mean the red pill calls men that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 07:00 AM
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Egalitarian is the diplomatic non-answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 06:41 AM
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You can if she decided she was sexually interested in you before you even spoke.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 09:01 PM
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Guys just don't think it's fair that the halo effect allows attractive men to get away with things that would be considered creepy if they were less attractive. Generally people only consider you creepy if they fear you or are disgusted by you. And people have a lot higher tolerance for anyone who is good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 08:57 PM
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Your protests of a vasectomy make no sense for a man who doesn't want kids or marriage. I assumed it's because you thought he might change his mind later. That's why I suggested freezing sperm.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 07:00 PM
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If 'want he wants' is no kids, idk why he'd want to risk getting women pregnant. Freeze some sperm and get snipped.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:30 PM
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Nope, it's not an incel problem but that doesn't change the demographic of who frequents the subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:15 AM
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It's incel revenge porn lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:11 AM
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The language is incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:10 AM
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I've actually been banned three times from there, but I still frequent it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:09 AM
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I use this reddit account to go to PPD. Any other subreddits I comment on are ones I found via /r/PurplePillDebate
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:09 AM
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I didn't know why it warranted a "LOL" since it's... a meme subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:08 AM
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I went there to look up the sidebar. We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes, so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the respect and courtesy that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid. In response to r/niceguys, this sub is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:06 AM
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Isn't that a meme subreddit? Oh here's the sidebar. In response to r/niceguys, this sub is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, and used-up vaginas.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:05 AM
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It's legal to go after people that age. But it's pretty limiting to the point where it's self defeating. But that's just my two cents. You can have a hard rule that you only date youthful women, but it doesn't sound like you're gonna be happy in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:03 AM
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I can see that, but the goal of most people when finding a life partner is to find the stability, family, understanding AND love. It's a tall order, to be sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 05:05 PM
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I feel like a lot of sex positivity in America has been 'fake it til you make it'. On the surface people are for it, but on a deeper level people still severely judge each other for how much sex they are having and with who.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:56 PM
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Maybe. I imagine my viewership of porn has made me more sexually adventurous. But it's actually a subreddit like this that said "sex is the heartbeat of a relationship". And that stuck with me. But the bar is very low for what constitutes 'too much porn'.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:53 PM
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Yes it's celebrated. Sex sells. Doesn't mean it's good for your actual sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:45 PM
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She gave her youth to her previous partners? Then I hope she has some leftover for me because if she doesn't that would make it impossible for her to give me her best. Roundabout way of saying you're an ephebophile lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:38 PM
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I don't think that's what men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:35 PM
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Softcore instagram porn isn't good for you either because it's not a representation of anything realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:35 PM
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Because women historically have been housewives while men are out of the house most of the time. It's easier for men, for a number of reasons, to abandon their families.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:19 PM
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https://i.redd.it/xs18ul2tso051.png
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:12 PM
4

I guess they just want a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:10 PM
3

Doesn't really qualify as happy. They may have a dutiful relationship, but they certainly aren't happy to be together.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:01 PM
2

Go on /r/relationships. I don't really understand the dynamic of you and this guy because your post is a run on sentence. I was speaking in general why men specifically want nudes from women they are talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 05:15 AM
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Control. Yeah they can find free nudes on the internet, but they value having the power and persuasion to get a real person to give it to THEM. Isn't in person sex better then pics Yes, but absence and anticipation fuel desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 05:05 AM
2

There are worse things he can be than just a beta. I have a brother who absolutely isn't a beta in relationships, he does pretty much what he wants, and yet he fails at them because he still lives at home at 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 03:34 AM
2

Someone looking for absolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 03:49 PM
3

Yep. And in that sense it's not 100% terrible if you're just there for a laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 03:40 PM
1

because she fights and denies him That's not part of any of my fantasies. But also I've learned from the Whisper app that men are very into the consensual non-consent fetish. So I imagine there are just as many women into that too. She will hate him for a time And I don't think this is part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 02:08 AM
-1

Probably true. But I also have no horse in the dating race. So really I'm not searching on that subreddit for answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 02:05 AM
-1

I have no such past but I still find it hypocritical to criticize women's promiscuity all the while thinking men need mistresses and harems and it's all fine and dandy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 12:17 AM
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Lolol. The Handmaid's Tale? The man in that book was hardly a good husband. And his "NEED" for a paramour only existed because his wife was sterile and the handmaiden was not. These men who need harems do not keep their wives 'well fucked'.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 12:12 AM
1

How are virgins the solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 12:05 AM
3

Telling men to ignore women If you're talking about MGTOW, I don't think they do a good job of actually ignoring women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 12:04 AM
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It's not rape if you want to have sex lol. Women want a man who is beside himself with desire for her. If she wants it, it's not rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 11:50 PM
-1

Absolutely. But I'd argue FDS cares more about entertainment than persuading women of anything. And in that sense I find it much less severe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 11:46 PM
2

There are the kind of women who want to be provided for, and there are the kind of women who want fairness. But most women don't want to give more than their man gives financially. So those two messages are what speak to the women there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 11:45 PM
1

FDS gained traction from memes. First and foremost it will always be entertainment. I mean consider how most of the posts are just screenshots of twitter. They are digestible little punchlines that poke fun at dating tropes women are familiar with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 11:43 PM
2

That's because women still repress their sexuality in this day and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 06:27 PM
1

I thought marriage was common law marriage. If you have to apply to be common law married, then it's pretty similar to just getting married in the traditional sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:16 PM
5

To these men, what a partner is willing to sacrifice is of the utmost importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:13 PM
1

There are definitely gay rapists. The only men I fear are those who display criminality or mental illness. And those are where I start to get nervous too. Most other men I trust not to freak out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:06 PM
2

I knew a lot of kids with hypenated last names. And their parents were divorced. I guess people just do that sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:04 PM
6

What's the goal with a comment like this? Are you trying to be a chad? Envy is the thief of joy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 06:22 AM
3

What if she was known by her name? Like an artist or an author? Is that too independent?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 06:20 AM
2

Damn. You're right. I guess the only other benefit are the... benefits. You get to share your insurance with your spouse. And you get visitation rights. You become next of kin, etc. Tax benefits. So all this stuff is worth sorting out legally.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 06:18 AM
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Because he's a captain looking for his teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 06:15 AM
3

Is it your nature to fear men who would be violent with you? You find yourself walking in alleyways late at night?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 06:10 AM
3

it's about respect It's pretty disrespectful to force your traditions on people who don't value it. And that's all this is. It's a tradition. Does getting eloped in a private ceremony and spending wedding money on a nice honeymoon show disrespect too? It goes against tradition!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 06:08 AM
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I think you're just thinking of kids with hyphenated names as a RESULT of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 06:04 AM
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I don't think it's one foot out the door. It's asking one party to submit themselves to a new identity. If you liked who she was before you asked her to marry you, then her name shouldn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 06:02 AM
1

Well since the topic here is rape, I'd say we aren't talking about consensual sex. I'm talking about unwanted sexual acts done to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 05:51 PM
1

It's penetration vs not penetration. Penetration can be harmful even if it's not violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 05:43 PM
2

I guarantee you, most people who refer to 'the one that got away' are not talking about their ex wives/husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 04:11 PM
3

Studies on non-marital heterosexual relationships You didn't read.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 03:21 PM
2

I don't think female-on-male rape is physically as harmful, but with your frame of mind you completely ignore the mental abuse they endure from something like this. This is why men's mental health suffers. They are shamed for being a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 02:14 PM
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That's because the majority of the breakups are done by women. Studies on non-marital heterosexual relationships are showing that the break-ups of non-marital relationships are in fact, gender neutral. https://data.stanford.edu/hcmst
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 02:05 PM
1

Different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 02:00 PM
5

Would be pretty cool. I always liked that Black Mirror episode "Be Right Back". Except in that case it was a robot that duplicated the personality of a deceased loved one. But it was a powerful concept. But they also could learn really good sex techniques from browsing the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 02:54 AM
1

I didn't say that. It's the common beliefs. TRP being contrarian to common beliefs doesn't automatically make it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 03:30 PM
1

So it's just a lack of structure that keeps these kids from balancing their social lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 01:58 PM
1

Why can't women feel love and affection for men? And do men feel love and affection for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 01:57 PM
2

When you add that stipulation, it definitely seems like you are saying this just to spite women. Which I'm not going to convince you not to. Just might be enlightening to consider why you feel like you need to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 01:54 PM
1

From a utilitarian point of view, it's meaningless. Unless it's "That sucks, I'm going to do X for you."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 01:50 PM
3

Beyond telling someone "Man, that sucks". I'm not sure what the impact is on the person to simply know you feel sympathy. Guess it's just a validation thing. But even then, it's just platitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 05:23 AM
2

The Romantic Rebel (also, the Truthdig / Truthout Fallacy; the Brave Heretic; Conspiracy theories; the Iconoclastic Fallacy): The contemporary fallacy of claiming Truth or validity for one's standpoint solely or primarily because one is supposedly standing up heroically to the dominant "orthodoxy," the current Standard Model, conventional wisdom or Political Correctness, or whatever may be the Bandwagon of the moment; a corrupt argument from ethos. E.g., "Back in the day the scientific establish…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 05:19 AM
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I think the advent of the internet and video games caused the influx of incels. Both of those things offered a unique form of escapism that offered pseudo-social interaction. So it keeps you from getting as lonely as an isolated hobby might. But still limits your experience social situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 05:09 AM
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That shit sucks. But what does a woman's empathy do to improve that situation? If she's not a willing participant, nothing changes. And I'm not sure if it's the average to go years without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 05:03 AM
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Does that way of thinking give you peace of mind? I'm genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 05:01 AM
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Are you saying that just to spite them? Or do you literally not care when someone is harmed or killed? You can see the difference though, right? One is a committed crime, the other is the absence of a sexual or romantic interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 04:36 AM
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And what about relationships that don't involve the sharing of assets? And furthermore, do men care for women as people, or as tools?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 02:35 AM
2

Empathy only goes down in the hierarchy. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 02:30 AM
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Women say this all the time in this sub: They empathize with the men they know. Not the plight of the male imperative to have lots of sex. And frankly, women's empathy has no bearing on the situation. Unless your ideal scenario is that women give more pity fucks?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 02:25 AM
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Men 'getting their dicks wet' is directly against the female imperative. So women are going to be indifferent at best. And furthermore, women often start from a position of empathy with men who are unlucky in their search for romance, but it is very difficult to interact with someone like that if they see you as a potential solution to their problems if only you'd just give them a chance!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 02:21 AM
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For a woman? Sex 4 times a day sounds like chafing and sore vagina. Reminds me of when I first started dating my boyfriend lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 07:03 PM
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Female, 23, Purple. I'd be bothered because to me, dating has always been synonymous with monogamy. But I'm pretty old fashioned when it comes to dating. I think the opposite should be true. That if you don't want to be exclusive you need to clarify that all the romance and sex going on between you both is just casual. Because otherwise it just seems shady.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 06:56 PM
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You actually don't have to cope with it. Most people pretend it doesn't exist because ultimately it doesn't matter whether or not you acknowledge it. Generally people are concerned with survival, and that's all the 'coping' they need to function. But I digress. This is mostly unrelated to the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 01:52 PM
4

And when people downvote you when you aren't trying to get them to downvote?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 01:45 PM
2

You gonna have sex with all four of them? That sounds exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 01:41 PM
1

I mean technically aspects 'of life' excludes death.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 01:11 PM
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For LTRing someone under 30 I would start to feel weird once it gets past five. Compared to me, that's a lot of history so it would give me some pause.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 01:11 PM
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Any scenario where sexism and bias can come into play, it will. So I struggle to come up with a scenario where they are equal unless it involves anonymity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 01:07 PM
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But women do live a bit longer. 10 oldest living people are all female.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 01:05 PM
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Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 08:16 PM
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Yes! Christ my dude. I'm speaking from MY experience. I've crushed on someone and when I realized I had no chance I still stuck around because I liked the person! Yeah it hurts at first but if you can accept that it's not meant to be you can still value spending time with them. I absolutely have more to offer people besides intimacy. You've crushed on the wrong people if you didn't think there was more to it than sex. I digress. If you haven't met someone who you genuinely found interesting then…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 07:48 PM
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You're working under the assumption that all interactions are unfufilling to the orbiter. Has that been your experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 07:20 PM
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Those are very fair points. There's a woman who had a daughter that had the skin disease harlequin ichthyosis. The doctors told her she would have a 25% chance of spreading the disease again if she had another child. And she did. The second daughter had it too. That shit drove me insane. I'm mostly playing devil's advocate with coming up with the explanation of why people have a problem with childfree. The people who frequent /r/childfree seem quite vindictive about it to the point where their a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 01:40 PM
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I didn't cold approach them to date, lol. I just was in a classroom context and I was trying to relate to them. I'd probably cast a net wider than 5%. Probably 20% of men are good looking enough to be approached on looks alone. If we just want to keep going with the 80/20 rule. But that's just an estimation because I can't recall ever cold approaching. Because women usually prefer to get to know someone tangentially as opposed to rolling the dice with an absolute stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 01:30 PM
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Some people can enjoy the ride with their crushes on friends I guess you've never tried it, but I personally have been able to appreciate my interactions with my crushes without escalating things. Yeah I go through that moment of frustration knowing nothing can be done, but I move on from the negativity because I legitimately value the interactions! The onus is not on the receiver to tell an individual to go away. I think the communication breakdown here is that you've experienced different scen…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 01:27 PM
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We can agree to disagree on whether or not impatience, lack of empathy, and easily disgusted are negative traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 04:46 AM
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Yeah. Whatever you say to a stranger has to be extremely low expectations. You need to keep it so casual that neither of you will feel like you're held verbally hostage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 03:39 AM
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It can still be extremely awkward. But honestly I'd be more willing to figuring out if I liked someone or not if they were good looking. But I've tried to strike up conversations with jocks and it can get rough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 03:38 AM
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Perhaps the choice not to have kids reflects some level of impatience or lack of empathy. An unwillingness to self sacrifice. Low disgust tolerance. Ultimately it doesn't matter, but you can see why people would see it as a negative reflection of your personality. And this is coming from someone who seriously considered whether or not I should be child free. Still up for debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 03:33 AM
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A little bit. I've noticed it makes me a bit more articulate when I'm debating contentious topics. And sometimes the questions can be fun exercises for me and my boyfriend to talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 03:28 AM
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Never successfully. It's always immediately obvious what someone's intentions are when a stranger of the opposite sex is talking to you in a place where strangers don't normally chit chat. Never do that on a bus. I've had it happen while I'm waiting at the bus stop and it's excruciating knowing I literally am trapped in an awkward situation. My opinion is to never cold approach. It's just skeezy because it's clear the only foundation is appearances. And that makes for shit conversation. If there…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 03:23 AM
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Yeah you're right that it's based mostly in feelings. Because from the outside, both people are getting the same thing out of the interactions, but because one party wants MORE, they feel it's unfair. Some people can enjoy the ride with their crushes on friends and others are obsessive. Because the interactions are so positive for both parties, it's definitely hard to make a decision to put an end to it by making a pre-emptive rejection. It is what it is. People should either deal with their emo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 03:15 AM
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I think you interpreted it... differently. When I say burn bridges I am talking about scenarios where you offend someone by rejecting them to the point where they avoid you. Either they are embarrassed or hurt. you might need to use him later I don't ask my male friends for anything that I wouldn't do in return. The only thing he'd be 'used' for is the same thing he gets out of me. It's been a long time since I've had an orbiter, but the last one, the only thing we did together is have really fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 03:05 AM
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I wouldn't even give a shit if it were a 6 year old Yeah that's not going to pan out well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 02:57 AM
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If I observed things worth being critical about and they asked me for my opinion, I would tell them. Other than that, I can't imagine a scenario where I would know what's best for someone better than they do. I don't know. I just know it wouldn't be well received to tell someone they shouldn't date X because of their age. If I have any interest in maintaining a positive relationship with the concerned party, I would keep my mouth shut.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 02:46 AM
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Why not just come right out and tell them that there is a zero percent chance you will ever be in the slightest way interested in them? That would be clear and concise. Not everyone can take this with grace. Not to mention, it can come across as being very full of oneself. There are many occasions where you can avoid the elephant in the room and eventually it fades away. People are conflict avoidant, so giving a harsh and clear rejection can potentially burn bridges and make a lot of people feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 02:40 AM
1

Like many men here would be content with a wife who is hot. Full stop. Nothing else matters
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 01:10 AM
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There's a difference between "I care about looks" and "I only care about looks". Men are willing to disregard many more qualities in their partner than women do with theirs. And that's why they are perceived as being more shallow. Like many men here would be content with a wife who is hot. Full stop. Nothing else matters. Maybe that's a reflection of privilege of women to have more standards, but it doesn't change the perception of being more shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 12:28 AM
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Shallow for only caring about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 12:16 AM
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I find that I actually find someone more attractive once I learn more about them. There are many people in my life where I had no reaction to in the first impression and it was only after a month of seeing them where I thought "Huh. He's cute. Why didn't I think that before?" But the reverse can be kind of true. I can assess people as ugly and my opinion on that won't change. But for the average guys, their looks don't stand out initially, but once their personality comes into play they legitima…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 12:12 AM
1

Which is why people don't like platitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 02:06 AM
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I think the goal with that platitude is to keep you out of codependent relationships or settling for a relationship that ultimately makes you miserable. Additionally, you don't want to fixate on a relationship as being the key to your happiness. Because that kind of pressure on your partner is going to cause some conflict. That being said, human connections are great. And it's the ultimate goal for many people to have a lifelong partner. You just need to maintain your identity within one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 04:46 PM
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‘re-wire’ my brain to not need porn So you just... use the memory bank, right? Same thing effectively. It's just limiting yourself to no new content.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 03:09 AM
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Because masturbating probably implies you're thinking of fantasies that don't involve your regular partner. So basically thought crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 03:06 AM
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Yeah that's the way to treat them, but it doesn't mean sexual reassignment surgery results in accurate genitalia of the desired sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 11:38 PM
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There's no way a trans person feels the same sensations as a cis person. It's physically not the same stuff. It's a rearrangement of skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 11:22 PM
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Virgin girls probably saw some porn before they had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 11:19 PM
6

Still hurts their pride if you tell them to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 11:15 PM
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I don't care if men want sexual variety. It only bites them in the ass when they expect monogamy from their harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 11:08 PM
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Well it's also down to nature vs nurture. Men might have a testosterone level that "makes them want a variety of women", but you know... we live in a society. So your biological tendencies can still be in direct conflict with things you want in your life. Assuming you want women to commit to you whilst engaging in a tour de flesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 10:11 PM
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Any couple is going to have the same types of conflict. I don't think I'd be happier gay, but that's probably because being that close with a woman seems so foreign to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 10:09 PM
1

What's the source on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 06:42 PM
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My only advice is to maintain attraction. From Esther Perel, she says that we are most attracted to our partners when we see them from afar in their element. Doing their job well, working on their crafts, being the life of a party, etc. So you just need to take the time to watch your partner do the things that you always were attracted to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa0RUmGTCYY&t=16s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 03:00 PM
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Yeah. Kids suck. Definitely only makes sense to have them if you have a support system of people around to you help carry the burden. Otherwise you will mourn the death of your freedom. Maybe that's not a problem for those who lacked identity before the child. But people get married because of the attachment to the person. So living separately and raising a child is going to be aggravating. You're going to feel like you're sacrificing what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 05:00 AM
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It's not really sweet because she never got to know this side of him. I guess yes, men got the stability of marriage with the freedom to chase other women. So their relationships with there wives weren't actually any better, the wives just couldn't leave. So the result is loveless and miserable. But they stick it out because society then frowned upon individualism. When you treat marriage like a business arrangement, it's miserable. And people still marry for the wrong reasons, which is why marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 04:56 AM
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The marriage of the 50's wasn't picturesque. My dad said his father had multiple affairs and after his wife's passing he deeply regrets not cherishing his time with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 04:19 AM
2

Its only Brad Pitt's status that makes him attractive like that Women fuck pool boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 02:13 AM
2

Hey I'll bite. I dream of the male body sometimes, but it's almost always tied to a scenario that inspires the arousal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 01:59 AM
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Do men care about hair color? To the point where it makes you less attracted to someone? Oh their hair is done badly because they are cheap, I assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 05:55 AM
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Yeah changing your hair color isn't 'honest' about your true color, but I wouldn't consider in the same caliber of photo filters and makeup. It's on par with painting your nails. Having paint on your nails isn't 'honest and natural' but it's not misleading. It's expression.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 05:49 AM
4

What hobbies do you mean? Most hobbies need... the garage...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 05:12 AM
3

I guess it's probably better to have a 'trial run' of kids before you impregnate someone. Try baby sitting to see if it sparks any joy before you create a spawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 04:53 AM
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doing shit to prove to princess she's No1, losing hobbies and generally her trying to cut out all your friends. That sounds like something specific to you. Just asked my boyfriend if he feels like he's sacrificing any of that, and he said "Not at all." He goes and does his hobbies all the time on weekends.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 04:50 AM
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Honestly that's a shit place where everyone honestly seems like a dick. It's just a bunch of revenge stories on parents. And that's coming from someone who contemplated being childfree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 04:45 AM
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Fair. But we do a lot of things in the pursuit of pleasure that aren't logical. People attribute that to 'giving their life meaning'. Donating your money to charity isn't a good investment. People seem to do it for their own satisfaction. And people waste their money on all sorts of 'collections' that hold minimal value. Not logical, but it just satisfies some human need to collect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 04:41 AM
8

For some reason people just feel lonely and unfulfilled if they didn't have kids and they wanted them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 04:06 AM
3

To feel different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 03:00 AM
6

This is true. No such thing as unconditional love. As there are limits to what you would do to yourself in order to please your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 02:56 AM
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Sucking dick generally doesn't cause pain. Exactly. If anal sex hurt gay men, they wouldn't do it. Anal sex hurts a lot of women, so they don't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 12:08 AM
7

Men also have a prostate, which is why anal sex is pleasurable for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 12:00 AM
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I think with anything, a lot of this has to do with novelty. I think girls will 'try' anything for the man they love, but they won't continue to endure physical pain for his pleasure. For some people that would be really degrading and reflect poorly on the man they love. You're definitely going to resent a man who doesn't care if you're in pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 11:56 PM
2

Enjoy your philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 06:40 PM
2

That seems like a lonely life if the only interaction you have with women is sex. "Vast majority" of men want companionship along with sex. Someone who is theirs. Their partner. I suppose if you're close enough with a man you can take him with you places like you would your own partner. But don't underplay how much people value having a companion that you can rely on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 05:16 PM
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Women definitely like older men more than men like older women. But they prefer the same age. 33% of couples only have a year age difference. And over 75% are within a range of 5 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 02:10 PM
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Men and women are both social creatures. But it has been said, and this could simply be through nurture, that women have a slightly higher social acuity. But I think you're looking at two extremes. And extroverted girl vs and introverted boy. There are guys who go out and party every weekend and there are girls who stay inside and play video games and watch Netflix. And just based on your qualifier that all the boys you interact with would want to play Super Smash Bros is a reflection of the sma…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 06:16 AM
2

Maybe that's where the break down is happening. Because I'm defending the actions of other people, and not what I've done. I've been with the same partner for 7 years, it's clear to me that marriage isn't about settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 04:37 PM
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Yeah but you're making a judgement that the other guy is somehow inferior to you. Did she tell you that you were the prize and she was settling for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 04:34 PM
5

draining resources for her offspring from a man she doesn't like. Yeesh. I don't deny some women are gold diggers, but most people marry someone because they are in love AND attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 04:25 PM
6

It's not planned though. Women aren't thinking "I'm going to marry the guy X later, but I'm going to date Y right now." They are dating people because they like them. Women care more about whether or not a man can provide once she's thinking of having children with a man. And so that's where the priority of selection changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 03:43 PM
6

carefully planned strategy Wat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 03:39 PM
2

I guess it's relative. If I made more than what I currently make I wouldn't care. But since I earn next to nothing, it'd be tough if both of us made nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 12:41 AM
1

At least TRP allows women to post there. Hardly. Pretty easy to get banned for being a woman and fundamentally disagreeing. Happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 11:10 PM
1

Who do you think these girls held hands with? It was dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 11:06 PM
0

I think it's the same responses to perceived injustice as The Red Pill. It's a bit of over correction and a place for techniques to guard yourself from what you perceive to be a threat to you. To me, FDS mostly seems like memes though. I find them amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:58 PM
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Logically they want a partner who is a good father, emotionally and sexually they want a partner who excites them. The reason the end up 'settling' is because even if they are with someone who they think has both qualities, comfort often kills the intensity of desire. Hence the frequency of dead bedrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 01:27 PM
1

I think both sexes feel equally entitled to find a romantic partner. Because that's what the world and our biology tells is supposed to happen. It is the order of things. From a young age, as soon as you understand you're alive as a result of two people coming together, it is an idea incepted in you that becomes your goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 01:16 PM
5

People don't get married if they plan on separating. Don't be obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 03:06 AM
6

she'll be gone one day. Yeah but if you're married then you have a life long partner. So... how is that different from a 'bro'?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 02:16 AM
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Instead I would book something without her knowing and just tell her where we are going and she would love it, That's valuing spontaneity though. I think when you make the decision about a vacation, that's you saying you are covering the costs. So that's part of the appeal too. Some women insist on paying their own way, but others definitely enjoy some free shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:08 PM
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Yeah women are attracted to the right kind of attention and the right kind of anticipation for what's to come. That's irrespective of being treated as a child though. You can turn a woman on in spite of that. In fact, when you think of it, feeling like a man is acting as a father to you is honestly more of a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:59 PM
5

What type of relationship is that? FWB?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:53 PM
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No. Better treated as lesser just seems unstable. In order for that to be even considered as an option a guy would really have to prove that he is devoted to providing for a woman to compensate for her lack of involvement in decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:35 PM
0

No one likes pain. The pleasure they seek weighs more than any pain that might be caused.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 10:03 PM
2

At that point, there's no reason to use the lingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 10:02 PM
2

If she can't afford the abortion, she is punished.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 03:35 PM
2

Because it would be a waste of energy. I'm not gonna fuck em. So the status quo doesn't change. And the fixation on merely 'getting laid' just makes it sound like you want to extract sex from a person. Doesn't really evoke a lot of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 03:30 PM
7

I've never hit my partner unless it's an accident. It's a level of disrespect that's up there with name-calling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 03:07 PM
3

This is some weird gotcha but I have no idea who it's for.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 10:31 PM
17

Oof. I felt that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 10:30 PM
3

It's not just about being nice. It's never a detriment to enjoy their company until they start getting pissed off that you won't engage romantically with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 10:27 PM
2

You should include your definition then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:58 AM
0

That's the rub. I struggle with it a bit. I really have to step outside of myself to be sexually attracted to him. Which sucks. It doesn't mean we have any less sex. I just get aroused from other stuff and then direct it towards him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:53 AM
1

What makes him automatically 'unsafe' if she wants to have sex with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 10:08 PM
3

It's not the end all be all. It's literally just preselection. Meaning it's the BEGINNING of the vetting process. Because if he is single, it's a variable. Why is he single? Does he have commitment issues? Is he hostile? Does he understand social cues? What does he value? Whereas if you know he has been in the kind of relationship you want from him, then some of the questions are answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 03:45 PM
1

Oh they definitely are. But if they are taken then they have shown some sort of self control and value in order to land a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 03:36 PM
0

I've experienced preselection in high school and middle school. Because everyone wants to know their boyfriend/girlfriend is wanted by others. So to have that be confirmed prior to even dating is validating. And there is that second component, but it's not always there, of competition where you feel like you would be a better girlfriend or lover than his current one. However, at this point, I know so many people in relationships that it's reached a saturation point where it doesn't make me more …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 03:35 PM
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I feel no more pressure to get married than I feel pressure to have kids. But they go hand in hand for me. It makes sense to get the vow of commitment from someone before I choose to procreate with them. And for good reasons like others have listed above. It protects me if we agree that I raise children instead of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 03:26 PM
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Don't suck the fun out of it lol. It's fueled by confidence and charisma. It's not blind, people are still selective in who they listen to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 02:02 PM
4

I agree. Because I consciously accept my boyfriend for having low self esteem but it un-arouses the heck out of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 01:59 PM
4

Burning bridges is the last thing I'd want to do. Marriage is something that value is assigned to. Whereas there is no value assigned to being the exact same status you were since you first started dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:53 AM
9

I'm starting to think I've never met an alpha in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:34 AM
3

It's from observation. Me, and the two other girlfriends to my boyfriend's brothers, weren't included in a family photo album for my boyfriend's grandmother because we weren't married. We've been together 7 years. The people involved in making the album were the aunts of my boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:31 AM
3

I feel that. I'd probably choose to be lesbian. Sounds cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:12 AM
5

I'll be honest. I value marriage because it increases your social standing as a woman. At least in the eyes of your family-in-law. A way of socially legitimizing your relationship. Forever girlfriend just sounds banal and sad. Nothing is distinguished from the very beginnings of the relationship. It's sort of like being 'knighted' by your own partner. It's an honor as well as a vow.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 05:59 AM
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I realized I'm more sexually attracted to my boyfriend's displays of dominance or confidence. But since it's rare I may just be conflating it with novelty. I know for certain that indecisiveness is a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 02:31 AM
2

Do you think men need the same sort of 'edge' from dread to keep them feeling desire for their partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 02:21 AM
1

So how does it feel to have the security of the relationship while you both have the freedom to explore novelty?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 10:29 PM
2

It's a question for all! It applies to men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 10:19 PM
2

Oh I'd certainly feel like I was missing out. If he's treating me like like I'm as untrustworthy as his ex, why is he even with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 10:00 PM
9

Probably comes from the perception that young boys are horny and therefore want to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 01:22 PM
2

So you're just bringing it up simply to be contrarian. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 01:19 PM
2

Why would women fight to have longer sentences in prison?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 01:18 PM
2

Why do you even argue for women in the military? You want a 130 lb woman trying to carry her team to safety? Men and women physically are not equal. There are exceptions but it's the general rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 01:13 PM
2

What about recreational companionship, validation, affection, or a mother for his children? Some of these things can only really be fulfilled by someone you are very intimate with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 01:27 PM
1

For women, it starts after divorce. They've been disillusioned to the value of a husband. Especially after they've gotten kids to further their legacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 01:23 PM
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As stated most girls lose it in there teens To other teens... No less than 27 percent of 15- to 24-year-old men have never had any form of sexual contact (oral, vaginal, or anal) with another person, up from 22 percent in 2002. Meanwhile, 29 percent of females in that age bracket have never had sex, also up from 22 percent at the time of the last study. https://www.livescience.com/13072-sex-stats-virgins-rise.html
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 01:20 PM
8

Guys are desperate to fuck. So it's the wrong assumption to think that just because men on tinder will stick their dick inside you that it means they value you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 01:17 PM
0

Is 30 minutes... not a decent session of sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 01:11 PM
1

Why is it fine for you to cheat but not her? You're both motivated by sexual excitement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 04:07 PM
1

If I am sexually attracted to an older man then anything is possible. Although I acknowledge that people would be creeped out by an age difference, I think it would say how little they thought of me if they thought I couldn't CHOOSE the right person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 03:57 PM
3

"Not worth it" is pretty subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 03:54 PM
1

That makes sense though. If a woman admits to being unstable, are you gonna let her babysit your kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 03:05 PM
1

promoting violence That might explain why they 'trigger' women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 02:58 PM
3

You just tried to defend yourself against something I didn't say.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 02:53 PM
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I'm sure you think that's what they said indeed, I wasn't around for /r/Incels Why gaslight me and also admit you have never seen it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 05:41 AM
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I used to post on incels. Wishing rape upon women was popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 04:39 AM
3

Dude I can recall back as early as 4th grade that the public school was preparing me for 'when you go to college'. And yet they spend no time concerned with making it clear what you should choose. We are raised that to believe college is as logical as finishing high school, regardless of the degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 01:13 AM
2

The content is usually pretty fucked up tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 12:57 AM
5

Chris Watts. Except he was the one having the affair.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 12:54 AM
1

I don't. But then again I could be in a rare situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 07:06 PM
10

Who cooks single portions for meals? I can't imagine being as motivated to cook if I didn't have someone to share it with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 06:54 PM
1

That's due to the perception that men need to 'win women over' with courting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 06:50 PM
3

But then there's Mike and Molly and they are both equally obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 03:40 PM
5

Probably just the shows that air before 4 pm. Like Ellen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 03:39 PM
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Not in entertainment. That's as much of a waste of energy as being jealous of Johnny Depp for all his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 03:39 PM
3

Not to be that guy, but the age of consent is 16 in some states.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/11/19 05:30 AM
1

It's also bad to dismiss the work your partner is doing and think they are obligated to do it and not you. Women aren't rewarded for doing over half of the domestic work either. It's neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 01:44 AM
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An interesting note from your article is National Survey of Families and Households (NFSH), which gathered survey information from 4,500 U.S. married couples. -- Today most couples cohabit before marrying, and a large proportion of the women in those couples, Sassler argues, are not satisfied doing a disproportionate share of so-called women's housework. According to Sassler, frequently those couples do not marry, making the set of couples who would qualify for the NSFH Which suggests that the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 01:39 AM
1

Don't marry a woman who doesn't appreciate the things you do Can't really argue with that. But it goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 01:33 AM
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It's literally your username. Don't marry her in the first place, problem solved. This doesn't make me wrong lol. That's just like your opinion, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 01:30 AM
1

Just be a voluntary celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 01:23 AM
1

It's not a positive force of sexual attraction to do chores, but it certainly is a negative force if you choose not to. You don't do chores to get your wife to have sex with you, you do them so she doesn't resent you and more importantly because they need to be done and you want them done too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 01:22 AM
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I don't get the point you're trying to make here. I found the explanation for your claim and you're dismissing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 01:14 AM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/11/upshot/why-women-but-not-men-are-judged-for-a-messy-house.html https://slate.com/human-interest/2013/03/why-women-clean-more-than-men-because-they-re-judged-for-the-mess.html Guess the reason women care about cleanliness is because the women are judged for a messy home.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 01:10 AM
0

I agree. If they were in the honeymoon stage they'd be fuckin' like rabbits. So I'm sure these women feel lukewarm about the men they are with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 01:07 AM
1

Disagree. I experience the opposite in my relationship. I'm fine living in squalor and my boyfriend is the one who gets the urge to deep clean.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 01:05 AM
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The context of that post is about refusing unwanted sex from men who have not shown that they love you or that they want a future with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 01:01 AM
1

Or it could be that the kind of men who women don't respect end up doing all the housework thinking that will suddenly fix whatever greater issue there is. I wouldn't say men respect women who do housework either. It's a weird thing to expect to garner respect. It's necessary for the household.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 12:58 AM
1

Entirely depends on who your father is. My dad's great and I'm glad I'm close with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 07:14 PM
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I think men are willing to put up with it for longer. As long as the girl still puts out and has fun, guys are keen to 'spoil' them. Definitely more of a short term affair though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 07:08 PM
6

I would but that's because I have the maternal instinct of a lemon.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 07:07 PM
4

I don't think it's about money. It's about hours away from home.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:20 PM
1

Perhaps similar to how a kid will shove everything in his closet and under his bed and declare the room 'clean'.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 04:35 PM
1

It isn't hurting anyone This is how you get ants and fruit flies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 04:33 PM
4

The lack of sex and lack of romance in a relationship are often very related. The only thing that's not clear is what each individual wife needs to feel romantic or seduced.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 04:28 PM
1

If you could boil monogamy down to a single compromise, it's the one where you agree not to sleep with other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 04:26 PM
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some chores Not some. Perceptively more than her husband. It's a legitimate problem in some relationships where the couple work the same hours but the woman is still doing more of the domestic work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 04:21 PM
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Some men actually want a SAH wife that defers to them and relies on them. But I'd say zero women want a SAH husband that doesn't contribute financially or domestically.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 04:13 PM
1

Depends on who they are cosplaying and why.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 09:20 PM
9

Men used to wear high heels and wigs and now they don't. Men have become less masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 04:47 PM
3

Metabolism changes as you grow. Men get fat too, but they generally go to the gym more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 04:46 PM
4

She's already mad at her future husband lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 08:39 PM
2

I don't think blackface on Halloween is offensive. Of course I'm not black, but it's usually done to look more like the idea they are portraying, not to degrade a race.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 08:38 PM
4

I wonder if her husband tries to manipulate her into doing shit because he 'brings home the bacon'.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 08:37 PM
2

Well then he's a rascal with no respect for knights.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 08:33 PM
9

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/428/075/30a.jpeg
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 08:25 PM
1

Rape-baiting lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 08:10 PM
3

Isn't it a self fulfilling prophecy that someone will call you a virgin if you are in fact an incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 08:00 PM
1

Sort of like having your house broken into. You let people in your house all the time, but it's violating when someone breaks the locks and forces their way in to raid your shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 07:57 PM
3

Wow. She really hams it up. I had no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 07:55 PM
2

Really depends on how many of those privileges you capitalize on. I dunno. Some women don't value the opportunity to be a homemaker, but you would consider that a privilege to not work. It's just a question of values.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 07:54 PM
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I'd say more women than men are concerned about being perceived as shallow. So they avoid telling men to their faces that they are unattractive. Just a guess though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 05:42 PM
5

There's an explosion of topics that people are talking about now that they didn't talk about 10 years ago. Gender identity, sexual assault in Hollywood, internal terrorism, etc. The majority of the incels that participate in online communities were children or preteens 10 years ago, so it makes sense that once a community for it gained traction, all the young ugly ducks flocked together to create an even larger mouth piece.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 05:26 AM
1

Sunscreen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 05:23 AM
1

Well you view them that way, so I don't see the problem here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 04:18 AM
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Might be an insurgence of self reporting due to the incel movement whereas before they were probably too ashamed to participate in a survey.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 02:32 AM
2

No, we're talking about lust and how it compares between men and women. And I'm saying men experience it more frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 09:22 PM
1

Oh god. Another reason to avoid childbirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 09:18 PM
8

And if we lived in a society where having your balls cut off is cool and desirable to women, you'd probably do that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 09:15 PM
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Probably has something to do with their ovaries pumpin' out progesterone or estrogen. Progesterone is a steroid. Progesterone is an endogenous steroid and progestogen sex hormone involved in the menstrual cycle, pregnancy, and embryogenesis of humans and other species.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 09:11 PM
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It's a privilege, but not without it's own set of downsides. Especially if you're a woman who values independence and wants to be seen as equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 09:09 PM
1

Yeah that seems odd, but the excerpt from the "Willingness to Forego Sex" section is this The fact that women were more willing than men to do without sexual activity altogether supports the view that women are less strongly motivated to find some sexual gratification consistently across time. When men lose one source of sexual gratification, such as by breaking up with a regular sex partner, they apparently seek out a new one soon, or at least they step up the frequency of masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 09:06 PM
10

I imagine the girls who have low N-counts aren't even on your radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 08:56 PM
10

I don't want a man who has a harem or had one in the past. This sounds like your own personal fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 08:54 PM
2

Why do you think porn is mostly targeted at men? And another point, why are gay men more likely to participate in casual sex than straight women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 08:50 PM
1

Men desire sex more frequently than women, that's why they are sexually frustrated. Across many different studies and measures, men have been shown to have more frequent and more intense sexual desires than women, as reflected in spontaneous thoughts about sex, frequency and variety of sexual fantasies, desired frequency of intercourse, desired number of partners, masturbation, liking for various sexual practices, willingness to forego sex, initiating versus refusing sex, making sacrifices for s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 08:48 PM
1

Why are men the primary consumers of pornography?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 08:40 PM
2

Agreed. Hopefully someone in your life will have the sense to tell you to shave your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 08:40 PM
5

Weird. I thought you'd need to be attractive if you were trying to game on top of an existing relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 08:29 PM
1

women are just as lustful I disagree. Male sexuality is playing in an entirely different league.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 08:27 PM
1

Just had to deal with this on facebook. It's the appeal to emotion that I find myself tired of trying to navigate. So I just give their comment a thumbs up and peace out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 08:25 PM
2

There's different degrees of baldness. Some are more acceptable than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 08:24 PM
2

Are service jobs predominately women? I'd think it's pretty even. Anything that can be replaced by just an AI and vocal recognition is already on the horizon.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 07:09 PM
1

I've been blessed only ever dating one guy total and his dick is not small.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 06:35 PM
1

Someone who is around you lowkey hoping for the right opportunity to be in a romantic or sexual relationship with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 06:05 PM
0

I just saw /r/FemaleDatingStrategy today.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 05:43 PM
2

Guess you'll just have to stay single and wonder what could have been.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 04:50 PM
4

Well if you don't want to have a dependent then don't marry a woman who is going to stay unemployed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 04:46 PM
4

Then you signed up to have a dependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 04:40 PM
5

you only get to see your kids two weekends a month So in this scenario did you even try to get joint custody? I don't see how you lose half your shit unless the wife didn't make any money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 04:37 PM
2

Yes. Although it's illegal so that makes access harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 04:32 PM
3

They stink and they sweat a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 03:45 AM
3

Seems to me that a man you meet when you're 30 is just as likely to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 03:44 AM
2

I guess the difference is that the Muslim men can show their hair and face.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 03:10 AM
1

Chinese government. Brown people. Mushrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 03:09 AM
1

So it doesn't return to it's original size?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 03:06 AM
2

They respond to what generates the most engagement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 02:46 AM
3

Think of the youngest age those pop articles say "GUESS WHO STILL LOOKS GOOD FOR X" It's usually 40 or 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 02:45 AM
2

Do they feel different from vag to vag?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 02:43 AM
2

Nipple piercings. Leather pants on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 02:42 AM
0

I mean I wouldn't. I'd be scared of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 12:51 AM
1

Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 12:11 AM
0

I don't want to have to get tested for STDs. Feels dirty even risking it. I definitely care about high N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 12:09 AM
1

I'd panic if I had to open a public doorknob with my vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 12:04 AM
10

Wouldn't really call it a movement considering they barely move outside of their mom's basement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 11:53 PM
2

I'm thinking it would have to be enough money for both of us to live lives of luxury. Probably 100 million.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 11:37 PM
1

Could be a deal with the devil who knows your every move. Could be some government level surveillance on you both and another requirement would perhaps be that you have to live on different continents.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 11:15 PM
2

Because multiple partners is like having sex with every person that person has had sex with. There's a disgust factor to it related to STDs and coming into contact with multiple different genitals. And the process of finding unique partners for each count is much more elaborate than fucking the same person. So people interpret that intent to find different partners as a reflection on character.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 10:45 PM
10

Part of the discussion of PPD is whether or not you should spin plates to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 10:44 PM
1

I'd be pissed he didn't ask consent first.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 10:34 PM
3

Yo my 17 year old friend was telling me how she doesn't know why but she reeeeeally wanted a baby at that time. That's baby rabies. Get that shit away from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 10:32 PM
1

Could be the the lighting and angle but the difference is very apparent to me. Even his eyebrow bone looks more prominent
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 10:31 PM
2

My boyfriend and I get each other to that point often, where you try to stop laughing but you can't. But it's usually not because of something he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 10:29 PM
2

What are V tapers? Shoulder-to-waist ratio? Or obliques?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 10:27 PM
1

Losing the fat in his cheeks changed his face shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 10:26 PM
2

Wit is better than just humor. I like people who are sharp and quick with their jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 10:24 PM
1

Dude apparently chicks on Tumblr are attracted to Bill Hader. Just looking at #SNL I was finding a shit ton of role play fan fictions about being his girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 09:25 PM
6

Have you ever seen someone with a weak chin AND a six pack?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 09:24 PM
2

I'm currently living the unemployed life while being supported. And it jives well with my hedonistic personality, but overall I feel this sense of failure considering I was raised to do well in school and go to college, etc only to be desperate for any breadcrumbs of an interview. I would also feel personal failure if I was stuck as a waitress so it's mostly the fact that the college degree is wasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 09:22 PM
6

Seems like you weren't drinking enough to keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 09:19 PM
2

He makes me laugh This is such a low bar considering I'm surrounded by people who wanna make others laugh. I can't even fathom living a life where humor actually stands out as being rare or special.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 09:18 PM
2

Drinking can be interesting if you're with other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 09:15 PM
1

Some woman will settle for you. She's just ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 09:13 PM
3

Hey nothing wrong with drinking and watching movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 09:12 PM
1

Get on a boat and take a nap.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 08:18 PM
4

Some people probably feel like they want to contribute more to the world than just children.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 08:17 PM
22

Lol you'd be dating a felon right now if she was hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:50 PM
2

But you're a success as a mother because your baby has a giant head for his galaxy brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:41 PM
4

No they both deserve to be miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:24 PM
1

I'm not too lazy to urinate. I'm too uncomfortable with going into public bathrooms when I know my own bathroom is like 30 minutes away. I use them when I go out drinking though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:05 PM
4

It depends on when they have kids. After that it should taper off from once a month, to twice a year, and then nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:03 PM
1

Nah I'd hold it. Got the bladder of a camel.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:02 PM
1

Pretty sure if we gave the fail rate of the pullout method to teenagers and then hand them a condom after, they'd be less interested in taking that specific risk. And that's a win in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:59 PM
7

sex is better with someone you love and who loves you Amen. But life is meaningless, so if you can get to do both, then do both.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:53 PM
12

I think you misunderstand why people come to this subreddit. They don't come here to learn new strategies, they come here to be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:48 PM
6

It would be pretty homoerotic in here if it was just men scratching their heads trying to figure out the best way to peg a hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:47 PM
16

If you have ever actually paid attention to PPD, female dating strategies are indeed discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:43 PM
14

TRP is the male space. This is the places that debates the male space lol. PurplePillDebate is a neutral community to discuss sex and gender issues, specifically those pertaining to /r/TheBluePill and /r/TheRedPill.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:39 PM
3

Wouldn't be a very good view to hold if you can't argue your points ad nauseam.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:35 PM
13

(14) No incel content. Must be this rule that really irks you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:33 PM
1

And every time they make sure to tell you how their REM cycle was completed while you were there?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:28 PM
2

It's disingenuous. They put on a front to get what they want, and then they'll shift to fulfilling their own selfish desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:27 PM
2

But I miss them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:22 PM
2

I don't know if I'm just not that horny, or if I find casual sex to be dirty and shameful, but I haven't had that problem. Usually a vibrator will finish me and then I'm absolutely no longer interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:40 PM
2

Thank you for your experience of being a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:37 PM
4

Is he an incel because he's a pedo or is he pedo because he's incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:24 PM
3

Counterpoint: Sleep sweats. Wet and clammy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:22 PM
2

Being woken up periodically through the night from sounds from your partner is unhealthy. If you're in a separate room you can go to bed at different times, or stay up in the bed making noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:22 PM
1

I don't see a problem here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:18 PM
1

You ever been inside a dumpster?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:12 PM
2

I also want women to envy me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:11 PM
1

Do you miss punching down?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:52 PM
2

Probably. So long as they don't have the emotional intelligence of a man on Superbowl day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:51 PM
5

I would argue that prostitution is more viable than rape. Because, you know, serial rapists usually go to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:29 PM
3

If that were the case then all incels would choose prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:21 PM
1

They are certainly losers in the game of 'don't get raped'. But that's different then the ongoing game of 'am I desirable" that a lot of people are losing themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:16 PM
2

I wonder if their reasons for rejecting a virgin are deeper than what it seems. What if they are afraid of you turning into a obsessive stalker after sex? Their perception of virgins are that 'something was wrong with them which is why no one has had sex with them thus far'. Of course age is a huge factor in peoples perception of virginity. I really wouldn't judge anyone my age or younger for being a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:09 PM
2

Well if history is any indication, it's because men feel some strange sense of protection over their daughters/sisters/wives. Based on what you've said here, that doesn't seem to ring true today.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:07 PM
8

I mean it's a good thing that people can have all the sex they want, because that's what a lot of male virgins want lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:02 PM
3

Anyone who defends someone for being a whore is someone who wants to participate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:57 PM
3

Those who don't get sex are losers. Those who are losers don't get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:56 PM
2

Because sex is like food and they are starving without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:55 PM
8

Who allows sluts though? Is it the men who want to fuck them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:54 PM
1

Hey some women in anime don't suck. I honestly can't stand moe shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:19 AM
1

Meh. Sex becomes barren in a marriage after kids anyway, so your sexual prowess won't even matter if you commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:17 AM
1

Pics or it didn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 08:29 PM
3

Gender debate is for crotchety white people only.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 08:28 PM
65

I collect orbiters. I have acquired a lot of skill and knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 08:26 PM
11

Collecting anime figurines is a hobby, but I don't see why that's objectively better than anything a women might do with her time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 08:25 PM
2

we'll all have nanny bots though Maybe if you're rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 05:44 PM
4

If men didn't care about the physical sensation of sex, they'd just settle for a blow job. But since they do, they care that it feels better raw.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 04:57 PM
4

I don't think those men were tryna maintain being unattached. They want women to raise their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 04:44 PM
5

Lol. Men aren't trampling over themselves tryna be single fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 04:16 PM
2

Ah well the guy himself said he just wants a woman who is altruistic and kind to everyone. Which they do exist. My grandma is that kind of lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 03:06 PM
2

The implication of the OP is that women aren't allowed to be rude or anything short of kind. Which is also outlandish. There's a sliver of truth in gender roles. I'd consider them an evolution of generally useful sociology. So taking the time to express a lack of kindness or to complain might be enlightening, but it's usually at the expense of the harmony that keeps us near each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:58 PM
3

I'd rather just date a woman in the body of a woman. And I'm not even a lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:30 PM
-2

Just that yours wasn't really a legitimate counter. Women got to be both sex slaves and regular slaves in the instances where men are taken as slaves too. Unless you're thinking exclusively of war. In which case the men are usually killed and the women are raped and kept alive, or raped and killed after. But I will concede that being alive can sometimes be better than being dead. Not always though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:28 PM
-2

Pretty sure sex slaves were normal slaves too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:24 PM
2

Really landing those hard R's lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:22 PM
1

Either you want to fuck black people or they make you wanna vomit. There's no in-between.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:21 PM
1

Honestly I've been away so long I wouldn't even be able to dig up any of the old links. I think it's down to more of a case of Red vs Blue. Feels like blue pill sees things in black and white and red is often working with nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:17 PM
3

I think women are indifferent to a man's masculinity until he starts winging. And then in their minds they are thinking, "I wouldn't have to hear this if you were more manly."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:15 PM
2

If you don't take things seriously online, then why do you take the comments some women make here seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:06 PM
4

Women learn to be polite, it's not biological. It's a defense mechanism against people who can hurt them. On the internet, men aren't going to bash their brains in. It's also not biological for women to be altruistic and love every person they come across equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:59 PM
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The women here can be quite sensitive. Especially when they reflect on the people they actually know. If you expected every woman here to be sensitive to every single person, it would be exhausting and pointless. It would keep any real discussion from being had.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:57 PM
3

Women are gonna interpret your double standard as a slight. Definitely comes across as an outdated view.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:55 PM
1

That's a legit ass answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:51 PM
1

I'd chalk it up to people trying to spice up the constantly rehashed points of discussion with sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:49 PM
2

Because society expects nothing of them except to breed. Men envy that because they don't want to feel obligated to succeed beyond their biological imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:46 PM
3

Pencil skirts are great if they are stretchy. Maybe they are just buying clothes made out of the wrong material. Any woman who thinks she doesn't have agency to choose whether or not she can wear a pencil skirt is dealing with something way more complicated that's making her miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:45 PM
1

Then what does the pencil skirt have to do with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:42 PM
2

Well when people aren't 'nice' here it's because someone 'wronged' them by saying shit they interpret as an attack or dig at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:41 PM
6

You're only nice sometimes lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:37 PM
2

Lol. Should women start growing out their armpit hair to get on the same level as the men in the office?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:35 PM
2

Can be if the guy is dumb. I can always spot a neg.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 12:09 AM
1

Because women say that they 'can smell TRP tactics from a mile away'.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 11:25 PM
2

Unicorn is what they call bi women who do threeways with couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 09:30 PM
1

It's not an accident. The scenario where 'you have no choice' is the kind where the act of cheating requires almost no effort and you are simultaneously confronted with desire for another person. For the most part, my interpretation from the responses here is that everyone is asexual and has never encountered another human being as compelling as their own partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 09:27 PM
1

Licensed Unicorn Hunter? You're literally having your cake and eating it too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 09:23 PM
1

There's no temptation to smoke crack because you don't know what it's like. But you know what it's like to be intimate with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 08:56 PM
1

Well the motivation to cheat is usually the same kind of motivation that puts you in a relationship in the first place. You meet a person you want to be intimate with. It's nothing like murder because people aren't motivated to kill people for validation or satisfaction. I mean, imagine if you were in a different relationship with another man and you meet your current partner. Things aren't black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 08:55 PM
1

Ah. So disgust with yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 08:05 PM
1

Maybe the only thing exciting about initial dating is just discovering the person. Once you know each other you can't get back the excitement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:55 PM
2

I was gonna be a moth and my boyfriend was gonna be a lamp. But I just saw someone post that idea on reddit today so now I gotta switch it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:39 PM
2

Be sure to include side boob.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:38 PM
11

Tell him I need to poop first. Which isn't a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:37 PM
33

Chad isn't yours; it's just your turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:36 PM
1

Have you experienced a difference on and off birth control?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:36 PM
3

Legit answer. And what if she says you only do things because 'you're obligated to do them'? How do you unpack that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:35 PM
1

Sure. It's empowering. Don't know what that would be stigmatized.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 07:05 PM
0

Bullshit. It passed in Ohio. https://www.npr.org/2019/04/11/712455980/a-bill-banning-most-abortions-becomes-law-in-ohio
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 05:59 PM
9

Man some of these dudes have some messed up perception of hair. Everyone is saying the same thing "Cutting your hair is to distance yourself from your old life and to start a different one". And these guys are like "Naw. Can't be that."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 04:38 PM
1

The state doesn't operate under the assumption that abortions should be had.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 04:27 PM
1

Doesn't really benefit the state to have men spreading their seed and not providing for their offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 04:26 PM
2

The heartbeat bill was just passed this year. Abortion is illegal after a detection of a heartbeat. A fetal heartbeat can be detected at about six to seven weeks of pregnancy If you think about it, it takes about 4 weeks for a woman to miss her period, and then after she realizes she's pregnant she has two weeks left to schedule and have an abortion. It's definitely designed to fuck people over.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 04:23 PM
5

Wtf? Women just don't like men whose personality is 'gym'. I would never expect a man to have a muscular body from their job. Guess I'm just partial to white collar jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 04:17 PM
1

but has no need for merely proficient artists. Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 04:00 PM
9

Mothers develop immunities to Y chromosome proteins and it gets stronger the more males they have. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5777026/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 03:57 PM
10

I also read that the mother develops antibodies to male chromosomes and her antibodies get stronger the more boys she has. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5777026/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 03:56 PM
1

I wouldn't know what to do without my job" to be kind of sad. It could be a cope for not making enough money.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 09:07 PM
6

The difference is that a boss is giving you money to save in your own name. An allowance for being a housewife is probably more like living paycheck to paycheck. If you quit the job, you still have the money you saved. If you divorce, there was no money saved on your behalf.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 09:00 PM
2

Cleaning isn't a skill, but organizing is! And you can learn as you go! And cooking is as simple as following instruction! I believe in your dream!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 07:47 PM
6

Ideally you wouldn't feel contempt towards your husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 06:59 PM
11

Not to mention that I would want to blow my brains out from the boredom of staying home all day. From the jobs I have had, they are equally monotonous to being home all day. So just working doesn't guarantee you won't be bored out of your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 06:04 PM
1

I mean it usually ends up that a woman is indifferent to sex once they have kids. So it's a bit of a 'fuck you, I got mine'.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 04:38 PM
1

Ironically, being married reduces your taxes. So they end up stealing less from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 04:21 PM
3

I don't think it's even that common for a man to want kids but not a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 04:10 AM
4

Most other people fail at shit. Don't be that person. Would you say it wasn't worth it to go to high school because other people dropped out?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 11:26 PM
2

Perhaps women can have deep vaginas in the same way men can have giant penises.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 08:25 PM
9

So marriage is fine so long as you don't have to pay alimony when you divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 07:35 PM
2

Agreed. But it's still worth looking at the social differences with a critical eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 07:34 PM
6

Researchers estimate that 41 percent of all first marriages end in divorce. 60 percent of second marriages end in divorce. 73 percent of all third marriages end in divorce. Apparently the dysfunctional people who have multiple marriages are what muddy up that data. Just an interesting stat on rates of divorce. https://www.wf-lawyers.com/divorce-statistics-and-facts/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 07:33 PM
5

This is definitely one of those scenarios where men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 07:26 PM
18

Why commit to having kids with someone if you can't stomach marrying them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 07:19 PM
2

Is unicorn subjective? The only trait that makes sense to me to be considered unicorn in TRP context is a woman who doesn't play mind games and just says what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 08:45 PM
1

He's 5'5'' I believe. Honestly I should just ask to see his profile because I don't know what sets him apart from other average guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 07:30 PM
1

It could be derived from a desire to feel important or special. Or to have the relationship feel that way. OLD seems a bit clinical, but I never actually tried it so it's an outsider perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 06:04 PM
3

I don't think drama is accurate. I think what people value is the build up of establishing interest in someone else and how there's a lot of mystique involved with it. Whereas on tinder you know that the person is already somewhat into you, so it's not really about establishing interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 05:59 PM
2

My friend who went to a Martime School that was predominantly male populated. She had a boyfriend back home who was jealous and insecure about that fact and she ended up proving him right by having many ONS and then finally breaking it off when she no longer valued her boyfriend. I don't remember the exact number of guys she was with but she was 18 or 19 and it was an extreme change of character from my perspective. She's cute and since she moved she's gotten very fit and slender. Her father die…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 05:52 PM
3

One of the shortest and average guys I know met both his long term girlfriends on Tinder. Which is apparently pretty rare but he did it twice, so he's got some sort of skill with it. So if you try to connect with average women who aren't looking for just sex there's a chance a few of them will find you attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 05:49 PM
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