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Debatewhitegrayblack5/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 11:55 PM
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Question For Menwhitegrayblack5/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:32 PM
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Debatewhitegrayblack5/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 09:15 PM
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Question For Menwhitegrayblack5/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:59 PM
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Discussionwhitegrayblack5/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:52 PM
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Question For Menwhitegrayblack5/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:09 PM
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Question For Menwhitegrayblack5/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:51 PM
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Debatewhitegrayblack5/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:27 PM
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Debatewhitegrayblack5/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:04 PM
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Debatewhitegrayblack5/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 06:03 PM
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Debatewhitegrayblack5/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:32 PM
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You're right that it's not always a female attribute, but sometimes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 07:39 PM
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If most people aren't willing, how good of a solution is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 07:28 PM
1

That is true, but that doesn't mean the definition of attributes implies it can be changed. What part of the definition says the term only applies to things that can be changed? If you really want to get technical, biology can change too. It just takes longer than painting a car red.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 07:27 PM
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Attributes: a quality or feature regarded as a characteristic or inherent part of someone or something. That's not something that necessarily changes though. It's not an inherent part of the definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 07:15 PM
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It's both. Traits associated with females can also be biological. The definition doesn't exclude that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 07:09 PM
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I meant you can usually tell by looking at their bodies, genitals, and fat distribution, not hair or clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 07:06 PM
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Not as much as in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 07:02 PM
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There are outliers, but for most people, you can usually tell who's male and female by looking because of their physiological masculine and feminine traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 06:53 PM
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Some aspects of femininity are not inextricably linked to being female (like clothing, shaving, growing long hair, etc.) But some aspects are inextricably linked to it. This would include a higher pitched voice, breastfeeding, softer facial features, curves etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 06:45 PM
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Yeah, that's why I agree with #5 in the first part. But I don't know how it'd be consistently carried out in these circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 06:40 PM
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The book doesn't make the argument that it's inherently toxic or that it's a choice, but I personally disagree with the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 06:37 PM
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I used the dictionary definition of femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 06:35 PM
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True, but I never brought up morals. Just calling it like I see it. I don't think being straight makes someone immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 06:32 PM
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Exactly. the power dynamic is big in het couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 06:27 PM
-1

Point to where I did that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 06:26 PM
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Then why do men whine about the divorce rate?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 06:18 PM
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Never said I wanted to. But there is no solution to make that attraction not toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 06:11 PM
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RPD goes beyond dating and delves into the nature of men and women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:57 PM
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I feel the same way about feminism or any other ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:47 PM
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It may or may not have something to do with it depending on the person's interpretation of RPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:08 AM
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My quote just proves my point. How can they oppose something they view as perfect or ideal?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 03:17 PM
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I ever said redpillers advocate for war though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 05:10 PM
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ChatGPT says RPD does have a position on war. The Red Pill dating philosophy generally promotes the idea that men are the foundational builders of civilization and that war is an extension of masculine competition and dominance. Here’s how it typically views these topics: War War is seen as a natural consequence of male competition for power, resources, and status. Some Red Pill thinkers argue that men have an innate drive to dominate and protect their territory, which has historically led to co…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:29 PM
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I never said the Whatever podcast is a perfect example though. I already explained about TERFs, but the pod was the only example I could come up with at the top of my head. I also never said redpillers weren't anti-war. I just said they consider it unrealistic. They tend to see human nature as pretty bleak.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:46 PM
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"Nothing makes women happy." No matter which side you wanna blame, the point is heterosexuality is cooked and was always cooked. The gays won.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:28 PM
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The part of feminism that some would consider extreme is feminism too, but the TERF example wasn't the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:33 PM
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Because if feminism ruined relationships, some people further down the extreme end would use that to justify undoing some things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:44 AM
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It's not what I think, it's what the redpillers think. They're the ones sounding the alarm about the world "running out of people" because of feminism. They don't care about most people being straight if enough babies aren't being made.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:41 AM
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I've seen it promoted by the founder of the movement. The point of the institution of heterosexuality (which enforces monogamy, marriage, family, etc) is procreation. RPD men are blaming feminism for women not having as many babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:08 PM
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I never said the podcast was the epitome of it though. And Brian being a potential grifter doesn't impact the nature of the show that much since he's more of a mod and host. Andrew is the meat and potatoes. Brian even disappears and checks out at times and lets Andrew go on. But to be extremely charitable and completely exclude the Whatever podcast from this, even Rollo has said things that imply feminism ruined society. Like the quote where he says it's not about equality but retribution. That …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:17 PM
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I still don't get what makes Whatever podcast a poor representation of the red pill. Just because it only represents a portion of RPD doesn't mean it's a poor representation, just one that could be more thorough. But the podcast absolutely has all the RPD talking points, whether you like the package or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 02:15 AM
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If he thinks it's stupid for people to call themselves redpilled, why make the label? You're right that it's synonymous with incel. Both groups have communities where they call themselves incels and RPD. "TERFs" call themselves something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:29 AM
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TERF isn't a label created by THOSE feminists though. It's purpose is a witch-hunt tool. There are many people who support trans rights but still get labeled TERFs by people who want to target them just for saying a few things they disagree with. There are also feminists who don't support trans rights but still reject the TERF label because of what they think it implies, the underlying principles. The red pill label on the other hand was intentionally created by the people it applies to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 09:36 PM
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Brian might be a grifter, but Andrew Wilson might actually be an Eastern Orthodox Christian nationalist IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 08:51 PM
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Huh? I never denied the study. I was offering an explanation?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 08:07 PM
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The only explanation I have for that is women don't like having to work fulltime while also taking on traditional roles like cooking, cleaning, and childrearing. In the past, more of them could pick one. But now they do two fulltime jobs instead of one. I don't think single women with careers are unhappier because they only have to fulfill one role. It's the married women who have to work fulltime and do domestic labor that are unhappier right now. That's why modern single women who only have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 07:20 PM
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Some feminists are anti-war in general, but redpillers see that as too idealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 07:16 PM
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Not if it's forced on them. Only if it's their choice. Just like child support isn't worth it if a woman baby trapped a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:23 PM
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Happier in their marriages back when marital rape was legal?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:21 PM
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if the traditional institution of heterosexuality was sustainable, it wouldn't have pushed women into feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:20 PM
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I wasn't the one arguing, it gets debated on the Whatever podcast. They can have that grievance without connecting it to women's right to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:17 PM
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Does the study ask if they were happier without feminism or just in general? Because feminism isn't the only change since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:12 PM
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Not necessarily. The movement advocates for transmaxxers getting with other transmaxxers after transitioning together. No straight cis men required. Redpillers always complain that 50% of marriage ends in divorce because of women having the freedom to divorce whenever they want. It may not be all, but a high number right now. In the future, marriage will be even less prevalent and fewer people will get married in the first place. There will be many more childless and single women in the coming d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:11 PM
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I didn't say happiness wasn't relevant in general. Read the whole sentence. I said it doesn't always matter when some people think the grass is greener on the other side. A person can be very happy but still want what someone else has. That perception of lacking something is a source of tension, whether someone is happy or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:03 PM
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For the sake of argument, happiness isn't always relevant to people wanting what they don't or can't have. There will always be that urge when something is withheld from them by society, no matter which alternative they would actually prefer. It's kinda like the Matrix. You'll only know which reality you prefer if you actually take the red pill. For many, the red pill of feminism or equality will be alluring because it's something that's kept from them. But they have to take the pill to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 04:55 PM
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I've actually seen some redpillers argue that feminists are wrong for wanting women to vote because women don't have to be drafted. They think women being able to vote is just feminism giving women the right without the responsibility to back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 02:06 AM
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Guruos You mean muslim gurus?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 12:43 AM
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Then why do men link it to downfall?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 11:34 PM
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Feminism is only an issue for the institution of heterosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 11:05 PM
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Estimates vary and do go up to a billion. It'll be way too many to manage either way. I was blaming the institution of heterosexuality, which forces birth on women. There's a difference between wanting to have kids and having them because of rape or not having access to good birth control or abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:51 PM
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It's not incorrect. If women weren't forced to have so many kids they didn't want, there would be way fewer climate refugees coming down the pipeline in the coming decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:38 PM
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Monogamy is part of the institution of heterosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:30 PM
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I was talking about a hypothetical scenario where straight people barely existed because of either bioengineering or evolution and the Earth had a large amount of gay people. That's where the misunderstanding was. The only reason it couldn't happen now is because straights outnumber gays, obviously. The Earth does have finite resources, there's no escaping that. I never said everyone will die. It's unlikely we'll have time to completely switch from fossil fuels to other energy sources before mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:28 PM
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It wasn't a bait and switch, but just a lack of clarity in the beginning. I meant the institution of heterosexuality. As far as feminists being bred out, that makes no sense. Before the first wave of feminism, plenty of non-feminist women were having children in the patriarchy, but there was still enough awareness to cause a feminist movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:17 PM
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Do you think this part of the movement is bad for heterosexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:09 PM
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Why can't you? Gays' genitals are no less functional than straights' genitals. And besides, our current civilization is simply unsustainable due to climate change. Constant growth is not good for the survival of our species. Astrophysicists did a study confirming that halting growth after a certain period was the best way to ensure even longer survival of the human species. I'm not against things just because they're unnatural.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:06 PM
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The post was more about heterosexuality as an institution (marriage, family, stuff like that). The culture around men and women promoted by organized religion. I bring it up that way because the transmaxxing movement seems to be a direct response to what's going on now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 09:53 PM
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Gays have genitals too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 09:48 PM
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You said they don't advocate for removing rights, but they blame feminism for the relationships break down. So what's a non-toxic response to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 09:44 PM
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It's not meant for a global arena, but it still happens in those circumstances anyway. So not a good deal for either party TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 09:39 PM
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Heterosexuality isn't the only way to procreate because they're not the only ones with reproductive systems. Lesbians pop out babies from sperm donors all the time. And gay men can impregnate women. Their sperm still works. If anything, only gays procreating would cut the amount of unwanted children by about 100%. I wasn't saying that their nature was good or bad. I was just pointing out how it conflicts with anti-feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 09:36 PM
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But don't redpillers say hypergamy is female nature? So it's a natural part of heterosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 09:27 PM
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Huh? What point are you making?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 09:26 PM
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I didn't get into what they did or didn't deliver, I just said they advocated for those things. It's part of the ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 09:23 PM
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Plenty of men are because that's where women get discretely pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:07 PM
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The original post you responded to was not attempting to avoid accountability. I just said it feels shitty and explained why. Not sure why you're going off topic here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:43 PM
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Why are you so focused on height? Tall men can be skinny and weak. The tall, skinny lanky look actually seems to be in with gen z.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:19 PM
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I never said women couldn't enjoy sex. You do realize it's possible to enjoy sex and still not like realizing you were manipulated after right? So toddlers are the only humans who can be manipulated?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:13 PM
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Appearance isn't the only factor in how dangerous a man is. A smaller man with anger issues could still turn out to be a family annihilator.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 04:36 AM
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Self-preservation (which avoiding violence is a part of) drives just about every human action. Most women don't expect a man to knock her teeth out just because he's larger.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 03:43 AM
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Tall women who weigh less than them or tall robust looking women built like Serena Williams and are harder to leave for dead?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 03:36 AM
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You can flip that same logic on men. If they don't wanna be seen as predators, they should go for women bigger or taller than them. But they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 03:27 AM
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Yeah, it happens to both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 03:25 AM
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I never said it only affects women. It impacts women more because women take a bigger risk by going through pregnancy scares and abortions and are more likely to catch STDs because of the downstairs anatomy. So yeah, sex does impact women more. No amount of brainwashing will change that. Knowing that you risked pregnancy (which can cause death or permanent health issues) because someone scammed you is traumatizing because of female biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 08:07 PM
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Some redpillers claim a woman doesn't really like him if she doesn't have sex soon after meeting (1-3 dates). There's a conflict there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 08:02 PM
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Attracting more men also means women attract more predators than men do too. So those extremely negative experiences are probably bringing down the percentage of women reporting positive experiences and increasing the percent for negative experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:24 PM
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Why? Comparison is a basic building block of analysis. I won't stop analyzing things because it hurts people's feefees.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:19 PM
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You know what sex is right? And yeah of course biology overrides social constructs like money. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:16 PM
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Men and women define success differently. A lot of women complain that men just want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:12 PM
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Both are manipulation, but one has biological implications.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:04 PM
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Someone choosing to spend money isn't theft. You can make more money to replace what was lost. Money is replaceable. I didn't frame it in any kind of way. I was stating facts. Facts don't care about your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:53 PM
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It's not absurd. It's objective reality. You can't physically unfuck someone, but you can make more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:38 PM
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If most men see online dating as a positive, they're not delusional then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:36 PM
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51% have negative experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:26 PM
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I never said they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:22 PM
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"Victim mentality" is such a worthless phrase. Literally anyone can have a victim mentality, even rich people who whine about paying a lot in taxes. Men are just as likely to have victims mentalities as women thanks to online echo chambers. And you didn't answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:21 PM
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If women are delusional for the sentiment expressed in this study, so are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:11 PM
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Not all, more like 51% per the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:08 PM
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You said modern dating is objectively worse for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:05 PM
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If someone denies objective reality, they're delusional. 57% outnumbers the rest, so most would be delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:57 PM
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Some guys can wait months because they pay for escorts or have sex with another woman in the meanime. Those types can still pump and dump after waiting. One woman withholding sex doesn't stop someone from getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:56 PM
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I thought complaining was human nature. It's kinda weird and misandrist to act like men aren't capable of basic communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:54 PM
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Sure, but I don't get how it means modern dating is worse for men. Some men are paranoid about false accusations, so I don't get why they'd complain about more interactions being documented online. That last sentence is so extreme for a 9% difference, chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:47 PM
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Some women get ghosted after being used for sex, which is worse. You can't take pussy back, but you can always make more money after paying for a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:43 PM
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Do you not think online dating is a major component of modern dating? And this includes gay and bi women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:37 PM
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If that's objective, why do men say otherwise? Are you saying most men are delusional?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:37 PM
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Agreed it's fine as long as others aren't bashed, just like every other kink.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:42 PM
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Men get pressured too. You'd be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 02:44 PM
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No one says this when society calls male virgins undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 02:06 PM
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Stealthing for example is extremely idiotic, especially when so many men complain about child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:50 PM
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Yeah, many people are always on their phone these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 01:46 AM
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I think it's meaningful. It's one way to determine how much interest the sexes have in each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:12 PM
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And which gen has less sex and pops out fewer babies?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:15 PM
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1890s??
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:28 PM
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Some of those people have millions of followers and got pretty popular. I guess that means a lot of people are dumb. -shrugs-
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:32 AM
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The internet has real humans posting on it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:24 AM
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No, I'm talking about men and women reading each other's thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:22 AM
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I said nothing about segregation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:07 AM
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No, don't do that. Scroll back up. I asked "Does a lot (what you said) mean the majority?" You then said yes. Now you're backpedaling and reverse-pussypopping because you can't handle being called out for your irrational thinking. And I know you won't answer because you probably realized what you said makes absolutely no sense. At least now you have a bit more some self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:06 AM
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If you believe that most men are shallow enough to reject you based onn your race, do you think you'll find any who will actually make good partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:49 PM
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What percentage was it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:37 PM
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You said a lot. Does a lot mean the majority?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:33 PM
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Yes, I ask some men that depending on what they say. But if I thought a group I was trying to attract was racist and colorist as a whole, I would lose any attraction to them. Those aren't the traits I want in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:28 PM
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If you say men find black women less attractive, why do you still want a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:38 PM
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You need to get some fresh air so you can see what a leech actually is. But even you admit female privilege isn't for most females by singling out Western women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:12 PM
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All this stuff is outweighed by the natural advantages men have. There's a reason some creeps talk about how they can't wait when society collapses, and that reason ain't good for women who aren't in the top .0001% genetically.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:10 PM
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Who said women have it so bad? I literally admitted women can have privileges in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:07 PM
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Who says they won't? Depends on the circumstances. Vietnam had female soldiers and beat the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:05 PM
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As opposed to the African and Indian female students they didn't let leave. And blonde hair is more common in women in European populations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:36 AM
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How is it a privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:53 AM
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So you don't think some of them get killed after they get raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:08 AM
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Not true. It wasn't all females. Female Africans were held back from getting on the trains. Again, you conflate privilege. Ukrainian women also have the blonde blue eye privilege going for them. Then why are most illiterate people in the world female? How do those countries define rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:22 AM
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"While people of color, individually and as groups, have been helped by affirmative action in the subsequent years, data and studies suggest women — white women in particular — have benefited disproportionately. According to one study, in 1995, 6 million women, the majority of whom were white, had jobs they wouldn’t have otherwise held but for affirmative action. Another study shows that women made greater gains in employment at companies that do business with the federal government, which are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:58 AM
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I take back the prison statement. Men do more fucked up crimes, so I could see that being the reason for the disparity. No, that stuff benefits white women the most. https://time.com/4884132/affirmative-action-civil-rights-white-women/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:37 AM
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Except most females don't even live in the first world statistically, so it's not even the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:09 AM
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Criminal sentencing disparity: Mostly benefits white women and white-adjacent women, not dark black women. Draft exemption: First world privilege; Vietnamese women fought in Vietnam while American men were being drafted. Woman-only scholarships and gender quotas: White women get the bulk of that aid due to their proximity to white men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:06 AM
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That's fine, just stop calling it female privilege because all females don't have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:01 AM
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You're doing the thing where you conflate female privilege with some other privilege like being in a rich country or being conventionally attractive. Guys fight in war, but women in "loser" countries are victims of war crimes and get raped and massacred. A woman who doesn't have to go through that doesn't have female privilege, but first world privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:00 AM
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You kinda proved my point. 1st world privilege experienced by a woman. This privilege you speak of is not a universal experience for all females in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:56 PM
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Female privilege is a privilege that stems directly from someone having a vagina. Privilege females can have is a privilege that any human can have, and since females are human, they can have as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:53 PM
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"Deferential treatment." Were you born and raised in a first-world country? And women have more kids outside of the West. This is what I mean when I say people who believe in female privilege can't see past the lens of privileged Western women, especially white ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:43 PM
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Desirable sex is not rape though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:34 PM
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Not almost all. Butt rape in prison sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:33 PM
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If all sex was desirable to men, MRA wouldn't talk about how male rape isn't taken seriously enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:26 PM
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You're talking about that same privilege that gets women raped? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:17 PM
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I'm not sure how genetic that stuff is, but people do test different things throughout their life all the time. The fact that it's a self-report inventory alone makes changes very possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:05 AM
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I can't tell if you're being serious, but a top comment explains this exact mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:01 AM
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at last part, I think it depends on the particular field women get into. I know a woman who went from INFP before college to INTJ after finishing college. I strongly suspect it was because of her field of study in STEM and how it influenced how she thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:47 PM
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Some guys in that group straight up say men are superior, not just that men and women both have negative traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 08:32 PM
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This answer makes the most sense so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:34 PM
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But from the perspective of someone who can't get laid, that nature becomes very bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:17 PM
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You think there are good things about feminine women. There are some who think women have little to no redeeming traits (dumb, boring, not worth speaking to outside of sex, etc.) It is hypocritical that men like this usually dislike masculine women too. I mean masculine in personality, not looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:31 PM
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Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:22 PM
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Never denied that last point in our conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:49 PM
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https://theconversation.com/the-orgasm-gap-and-why-women-climax-less-than-men-208614#:~:text=This is called the orgasm,heterosexual women said the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:50 PM
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I don't think it's essential to the core point. The point is the orgasm gap is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:55 PM
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So you never heard of hyperbole?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:51 PM
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Funny, all is nowhere in my most.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:48 PM
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the title says right there "most women"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:38 PM
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that's why I said most and not all
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 04:42 PM
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I mean the links in the article don't work at all when I click them. I don't see any studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 04:12 AM
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​ the links in that article don't seem to go to recent studies
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 04:07 AM
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​ perceptions drastically change all the time. so you can't show a recent study?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:49 AM
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​ to be fair, op asked for one situation, not a study. and that study is from 2009. It's 2024, and social media has warped men's idea of what an attractive female face is. is there a more recent study with similar results?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:01 AM
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​ this chick yes. the more clients find them attractive, the more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 01:11 AM
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​ That's irrelevant because even average men make fun of women for not wearing makeup and looking worse. Also, the OnlyFans chicks wear makeup for their average clients.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 12:53 AM
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​ Nothing would help increase the demand for incel types.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 11:24 PM
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I'm not saying some men don't enjoy pleasuring women in other ways, but they're absolutely not going without PIV and being happy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 10:57 PM
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PIV is literally the point of sex for men. The fact that women don't like it as much as men is why they feel the need to chase it so much. Also why there are so many dead bedroom posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 10:42 PM
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They'd definitely chase higher status men with more intensity, just like men get pussywhipped for beautiful women. But they'd also enjoy sex with average men much more than they did before if they can't get the very hot men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 10:14 PM
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Yes, more women need to start being more assertive. Until that happens, the orgasm gap will continue. Men can't put in effort if it's not communicated what to do specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 10:01 PM
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I don't get what that has to do with what I said lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 09:53 PM
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It's a low bar from a male perspective, I'll give you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 09:47 PM
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Can they? Then why does the orgasm gap exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:55 PM
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​ They don't like women's face more than women like men's faces on average. Hence why women feel the need to wear makeup to attract men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:43 PM
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But those aren't actual flesh. I'm talking about a living organism, like in vitro meat grown in a lab.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 10:45 PM
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The same reason men who get married have kids and basically leave the kid-raising to the mom: They just want a legacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:42 PM
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Guys who can afford the technology can afford nannies to raise their kids too, especially if they move to a cheaper area after having the kid. Fleshlights are just plastic, not real vaginas. They also feel nothing like the real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:55 PM
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https://www.psypost.org/2020/03/being-overweight-is-associated-with-more-frequent-sexual-activity-in-men-but-lower-frequency-in-women-study-finds-56174
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:32 PM
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being fat. statistically, fat people in general have more sex. possibly due to lower standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:20 PM
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water seeks its own level. it likely increases sexual access to an undesirable demographic of women because that's all they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:15 PM
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*27% of women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:09 PM
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anyone can be manipulated, whether they have agency or not
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:53 PM
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their sexual success also means they're good at picking victims, as sociopaths usually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:36 PM
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But they don't father most women's babies it seems like. 27% is still the minority and not enough to make such a broad generalization
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:19 PM
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the study is based on adolescents, so a girl won't have the same level of sexual discretion or self awareness as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:44 AM
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men leaving women implies nothing better for the concept of being heterosexual. women do dislike misogynists because many of them see Trump supporting and liking Joe Rogan as red flags, statistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:32 AM
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right, and my post says straight men often can't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:29 AM
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Can't edit, so I want to clarify something about people implying that the LGBT should dislike being LGBT because of discrimination. A person can hate discrimination and still enjoy the state they're in. You can emotionally separate the two. Same goes for any type of oppression. For example, BW are considered the lowest in the racist hierarchy in the US, but there are still many who love being black and wouldn't trade it for the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:13 AM
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i said nothing about less enjoyable sex for men. the less enjoyable sex is a problem for women. for men, it's simply not getting laid as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:10 AM
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no. why do studies say that women prefer men who don't listen to Joe Rogan and didn't support Trump?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:37 AM
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i said nothing about less enjoyable sex. it's about not getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:34 AM
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sure, that is worded better
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:10 AM
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before, women had to marry or be attached to a man to survive or live a good life. they had no choice but the have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:06 AM
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incel movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:56 PM
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yes they are. a study predicts 45% of women 25-44 will be single by 2030.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:50 PM
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the extremists aren't common, but there are several aspects of redpill that are common, like caring about body count and assuming foreign (or even asian) women are more submissive and easier to deal with than American women. General entitlement to women's bodies, like demanding rawdogging from fwbs and hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 07:16 PM
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no, none of that. the opposite. I actually think we should let women gatekeep more so the human population can decline even more to lessen climate catastrophe and resource depletion. it might be a bit too late for that, but straightness being forced on women has only caused damage to the world in many ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:40 PM
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penis-in-vagina is not the only thing straight couples can do but it's the main point of sex for them, which hints toward incompatibility at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:27 PM
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Heterosexuality works just fine. -spits out urine- women are literally leaving men behind in droves because they're scaring them away with their red pill/Andrew Tate/manosphere BS. don't be obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:24 PM
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Yeah, I mean sex and orgasms, not external stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:14 PM
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​ ​ Many can't attract women, which is why they whine about American women and go to poorer countries where straight men's value is still artificially inflated.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:10 PM
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Yes, some incels have actually used hormones to become more womanly and claim to like it. Although SRS is heavily discouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:04 PM
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