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oh whoops, no i was talking about redpillers
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 08:58 PM
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I thought most redpill guys are trying to avoid relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 08:31 PM
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They don't like them, they want them. And those are exactly the guys most women try to weed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 02:44 PM
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Nobody ever talks about the female version of chads. I always wonder why redpillers speak so contemptuously about the women willing to have sex with them. I wonder if they see these women as basically female chads, and transfer a lot of resentment onto them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 02:40 PM
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what does your ex-wife say about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 01:11 AM
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that sounds like possible sex addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 01:10 AM
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BEST COMMENT ON THIS WHOLE THREAD!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 11:15 PM
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yes, agreed!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 09:43 PM
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they didn't know this would happen though. but...it's complicated. i do think another very common problem is women becoming perfectionists around the kids and insisting on doing everything themselves if it's not done to their specifications. that's also a major source of resentment. but there seems to be this sentiment in the manosphere that women are no longer good mothers, and that is just bizarre. women are every bit as devoted mothers as they've always been. it's just hard with a workplace t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 09:37 PM
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but they're not. one of the biggest reasons for divorce is that women are out there working but still doing the lion's share at home. It's a huge source of resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 09:24 PM
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LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 09:04 PM
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exactly. you work hard to turn yourself into a guy that women would want for sex, but only for sex. Most men don't want to be you, so that lowers your competition. Some young women need to get through a guy like you so they can recognize quality when it comes along. And you can help them learn what they like sexually and get better at sex for their future husband's benefit. Win win.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 09:03 PM
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nope, not a fact. That's redpill ideology, and you believe it wholeheartedly and dutifully repeat it. Bluepill and ex-redpill have plenty of accounts from women reporting in from the field who left their redpill men once they found out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 08:47 PM
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Might be a bit of a selection bias with you, though. I'm going to take a wild guess and say the only women interested in you are only interested in you for casual sex. And that you work very hard in the gym and on the hunt to find those women. If you seek you shall find....
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 08:44 PM
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you should watch it anyway if you're such a JP fan.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 08:09 PM
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mmmmm.....
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 08:04 PM
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timestamped link? google these words: "Vice" and "Jordan Peterson." Then watch the video.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 08:04 PM
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I'm Canadian too, but lived for many years in the US where the discrepancy between what universities say and what they do is much bigger than here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 08:03 PM
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LOL, what other possible reason would I have for talking to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 07:48 PM
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i think you'll find there was a question mark at the end of my sentence. this has been a fascinating parsing of words, but I would be more interested in hearing about your exciting BDSM lifestyle. Which came first, redpill or that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 07:38 PM
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huh, interesting. well, i'm a radical moderate. i think radicalism and ideological purity is one of the bigger threats to democracy right now. i think it's becoming harder for people to hold conflicting views. so it's a surprise that you're more persuaded by the radical feminists, but also not a surprise. sounds like you wouldn't consider yourself a full fledged redpiller, but i've always thought the extremes have more in common with each other than with anybody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 07:36 PM
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was there an answer to my question in any of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 07:32 PM
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you said she was the last woman you slept with. the girlfriend part was implied by the fact that she's cooking your meals....sounds like you have a close domestic relationship. I was asking if she was in fact your girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 07:20 PM
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you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 07:18 PM
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So the last woman you slept with is also your girlfriend? Something isn't quite adding up here...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 07:16 PM
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So the radicals are the only ones you can respect because they're at least "pure" in their thinking, with no apparent inconsistencies to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 07:13 PM
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You seem to be saying they hate men, I don't actually know any IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 07:12 PM
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I don't see a problem with you providing stud services for some powerful feminist who's into BDSM. That's kind of the whole point of my post -- redpillers have their limited uses!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 07:11 PM
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I just don't care about radicals. In a democracy, they will usually be marginalized. I don't think they're that powerful or important. I also think we all care way too much what goes on in our universities, which is where the radical feminists mostly are. The real world is a very different place, and I just don't encounter radical feminism there. I'm also not going to adjust my thinking in one way or another to account for radicalism. I'm a mainstream feminist who loves her husband and male frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 07:06 PM
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you've watched the Vice interview, right? That's where he said he "doesn't know"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 07:01 PM
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nope, it's there if you're willing to hear what he's really saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 07:00 PM
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you seem to be struggling because i don't conform to your stereotype of an evil feminist. And I have the nerve to say that a lot of other women are feminists about like me. I even dismiss radical feminism as unimportant. So I must be an incoherent ideological grab bag. But once upon a time, there were more people like me. People who didn't live in these extreme ideological bubbles.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 06:59 PM
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huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 06:55 PM
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Where do you see traditional gender roles in me?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 06:54 PM
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You're wrong. He does believe this. Watch his videos. He's not willing to say women should be banned from the workplace, but he believes the world was better when women stayed home. He also says he "doesn't know" whether women and men can work together, an astounding claim considering that men and women have always worked together and always will.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 06:50 PM
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No they really haven't. There are radical feminists in the ivory tower but that's where they remain. You want to be redpilled? Here's some reality: a young woman might take a feminist course in university, but then her friend gets raped at a frat party, and the liberal university tries to cover it up and pressures her not to go to the police because the frat boy's parents are donors. Then the next day the president makes a big speech about a new chair in women's studies, and pays a lot of lip se…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 06:45 PM
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Great! She's powerful in her real life, so she gets off on giving that power away during sex. The BDSM scene is full of male doctors, judges, lawyers and politicians who want the same thing. You just keep working on that body!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 06:40 PM
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of course it's a good thing, but you can get this good advice all over the internet. what redpill/the manosphere gives you that's unique will make it very hard for you to have rewarding relationships with women. And btw, I'm not sure where you get 'interesting' from. The ones who are out there trying to get laid constantly aren't doing much else. They can't have honest, interesting conversations with women because they have to hide so much of who they really are. It's all those other guys who ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 06:36 PM
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he thinks the world would be better if men went out to work and women stayed home to have kids. he believes in a one size fits all approach to life. that part is bad, IMO. but part of the chauvanism is a belief that men need to be strong (no, not physically), honourable and duty bound. Not amoral and nihilistic and devoted to pleasure seeking like redpillers. This last is why a lot of redpillers reject him. They think honour is a sucker's game -- something you do for other people. That's why the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 06:31 PM
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sometimes i feel sorry for you redpillers. you will pretty much deal with any woman who makes your dick hard, and then you jump through hoops to convince yourselves AWALT. You can't just ignore an attractive woman who isn't nice, can you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 06:23 PM
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There really aren't. That's why you need to keep pumping and grooming, brother!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 06:17 PM
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I think there are pics or videos of him with Pepe, which is why some think he's part of the alt right. But he says he hates the alt right and offers young men an alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 06:15 PM
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Maybe,, but that just goes to show what a small world radical feminism is, if an ordinary feminist like me hasn't run across these attitudes. But then, that's exactly what ordinary men tell me about redpill -- don't worry about it, there will always be a minority of extremists but most people have never heard of this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 06:13 PM
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I don't run into those schools of thought, but would certainly argue with anyone who talked that way. I've just never met anyone who did IRL. Have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 04:56 PM
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I'm sure she does.....
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 04:46 PM
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satire is a tough thing to do well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 04:45 PM
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sorry, but there's a lot of shame in a movement that celebrates amorality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 04:43 PM
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the good body is the good part! it's everything else....
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 04:39 PM
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I have a feeling your dick doesn't find its way into many mouths. You should read Jordan Peterson. He's very chauvanistic, but talks to men about bringing back a sense of honour and self dignity. He might just be the guy who can raise you up a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 04:35 PM
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I didn't know you were the spokesman for everyone. There have been 88 comments in a very short time. Clearly despite the mass confusion, plenty of people have found things to talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 04:33 PM
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Just not being a slob is probably a good enough bar, to be honest. I grew up before social media made men self conscious about their looks, and before Tinder had huge numbers of men competing for the few women who want to fuck like men. And I can tell you a lot of the teenage boys smelled bad. I don't know if they were just constantly jerking off in bed and then rubbing the cum onto their stomachs and letting it rot, or what. But my friends and I could never understand what that disgusting teena…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 04:31 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 04:28 PM
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I'm a feminist and I don't "know" that. I work with pretty much all feminists, and we're all happily married, sorry to disappoint you. I fucking LOVE men too. I love cooking and baking for my husband, and I love having sex with him. I've always been the more successful one in terms of earnings and career prestige, and I love hearing him boast about my achievements to his friends, and seeing the look of pride on his face. I celebrate his achievements too, but when he has hit hard times, being une…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 04:27 PM
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sorry, but a lot of men, especially American men, do need to be told this. it speaks to the way we all grow up, with this obsessive focus on women's looks, and until recently, very little focus on men's looks. I think it comes as a surprise to a lot of men to learn that they aren't very attractive. And then comes the bitterness....
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 04:16 PM
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No, I'm trying to tell you that redpill men lack dignity because of they lack a moral compass. One of the ways this comes out is the way they themselves gloat over hiding their views in order to have sex with the feminists they hate. The willful misunderstanding is on your side.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 04:14 PM
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you can read their advice about getting clothes that fit and are flattering etc. That's more than a lot of American men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 04:11 PM
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not sure i understand what point you're trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 04:01 PM
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sorry, you haven't convinced me that lipstick is a lie. Whereas we can both agree that lying is a lie. And most people aren't liars. It's an absurd comparison you're trying to make, but you have your reasons to hang onto it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 04:00 PM
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Let me clue you into something: the vast majority of men and women don't fit into either category. Look, I'm sorry if you had bad experiences, but trying to turn yourself into the women who did that to you is only going to keep you in that nightmare forever. I don't actually think there's much difference between the abuser and the abused in terms of living a degrading life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 03:59 PM
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hey, as long as they earn it. and god knows they're working way harder than other men to turn themselves into guys that are only good for one thing. So I say keep at it, and hats off to you and your awesome bodies! I hope women enjoy them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 03:56 PM
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you should re-read your comment. only a man with zero self-respect, honour or dignity thinks like you do. Holy shit. Have you ever read Jordan Peterson? He would actually be a step up for a guy like you. He would have nothing but contempt for you, for sure, and he wouldn't think you're much of a man. But maybe you could learn something about self-value and dignity from him. He at least talks about these values in ways that maybe a redpiller could understand and aspire to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 03:54 PM
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makeup does not transform a woman, it only enhances her a bit. and only if she's good at putting it on. and it's just a part of a woman's look at this point. there are studies showing that colleagues think women who wear makeup are smarter. she doesn't throw on some lipstick before going to work thinking 'i'm going to deceive some guy!' Whereas a lie is a lie: overt, calculating and meant for only one purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 03:50 PM
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feminists don't keep their mouths shut. They have nothing to hide. It's redpill guys who do, as they constantly say when they talk about hooking up with feminists. i think you know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 03:47 PM
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you answered your own objection. you only have some redpill views, and you don't date the feminists that this post was about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 03:46 PM
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most women don't want casual sex. those that do have always been able to write their own tickets. redpill guys are out there working hard to be that guy, and to target those few women who want to have sex like a man. they put themselves into a position where women have all the power, so i guess i see the resentment. but they do it to themselves, so...shrug.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 03:45 PM
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Oh honey, they don't love you. They just appreciate how hard you work to get them. More smiles and muscles, and less talk, k?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 03:41 PM
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Good points. I think redpillers who are in relationships are doing huge damage to the women. But aren't most guys on there because they want the sex without the relationships? It's those guys who I think, ehh, why not? Most men would never put in the effort. They'd rather just have regular sex with one woman they actually like, who actually likes them. Maybe it's not bad to have a certain percentage who are only good for one thing, but work their asses off to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 03:39 PM
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So weird, this redpill obsession with makeup. Can you explain this to me? You guys are so utterly obsessed with women's looks, and obsessed with bagging the most attractive women you can find. It's very important to your self-esteem. So why wouldn't you want women to look as good as they can?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 03:34 PM
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I don't think it is a problem if these guys only want casual sex and they're being honest about it. But dishonesty is baked right into the redpill 'philosophy,' starting with hiding your real views. Most women don't actually want casual sex, and there are way too many men for every woman who does. So that's one reason the men are dishonest about their intentions, along with being dishonest about who they really are. And I happen to believe a desire for love and real intimacy -- but a great fear …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 03:24 PM
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There are studies showing that nice people do end up with other nice people, men and women. You can google it. This has also been my experience IRL too. The "nice guy paradox" is something very different. This is men who think they can be doormats for women who are out of their league. You see them trying to befriend the women, driving them around, paying for them even though they're not on a date etc. I think those women innately realize the hypocrisy of this brand of "niceness". If these men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 03:00 PM
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Maybe they do. Treating human relationships like a commodity exchange does tend to have its drawbacks for both parties. You play stupid games you get stupid prizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 01:27 PM
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I've seen some of the most attractive women get cheated on and treated the worst by their husbands. It's obvious why: the men see these women as trophies, and after a while a trophy loses its lustre. Young women would do well not to focus on their looks too much beyond keeping clean, fit and respectably well groomed. It may seem counterintuitive. But you don't want to be a target of trophy hunters. You want the guy to be at least as into your personality and character as your looks. You want you…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 01:32 AM
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Not sure I understand what you're saying.... She might choose a guy she likes, and she might not have that option. Any shrink will tell you men who go for younger women exclusively are insecure and very often controlling. You can buy women if you want, but it's a bit much to expect you can buy love. Edit: I think the more a woman trades on her age and looks to get stability and resources, the less she's likely or able to worry about whether she actually likes the guy. Same is true for you redpil…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 02:35 PM
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That's certainly true if you're trying to date women your own age or close to it. But most young women don't want a middle aged man. You will work much harder to find those that do, and the older you get the more sacrifices you'll have to make in terms of compatibility, and often emotional stability and mental health in your young partner. I would also agree with the other women on here that a LOT of single women in their 40s aren't looking. Especially the divorced ones who already have their ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 01:08 PM
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why on earth would a young woman marry an older, financially stable man EXCEPT to have kids? She's making a major sacrifice in age (and you redpillers are obsessed with women's ages, so I know you understand this), so he should hold up his end. Sorry, there are very few situations in life where you get to have it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 12:56 PM
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There is a definite feeling among some women (who know nothing about redpill) that the current system of two working parents is unworkable. In truth, it can be a massive grind that takes a major toll on marriage and family life. Women and men often have different domestic standards that mean women do far more than their share of housework and child care in addition to a demanding full time job. Many look at this situation and want out. Some blame feminism for selling them an unrealistic dream. I…
/r/ExRedPill22/01/18 01:45 AM
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No, most people aren't. Assholes think the world is filled with assholes because that's who they attract.
/r/ExRedPill22/01/18 01:21 AM
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Not sure what that means, but look, of course there are bad women out there. A certain percentage of people are born psychopaths or have other personality disorders. Men and women. But there's a saying that as soon as you stop being an asshole you start to notice there are a lot fewer assholes in the world. In a similar vein, I've noticed that the women with the most negative views of men tend to end up with the worst men. The same will be true with you. If you continue to swallow this redpill p…
/r/ExRedPill18/01/18 03:36 PM
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Stop. Most people are decent most of the time.
/r/ExRedPill18/01/18 01:06 PM
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I don't even think those count as political views. That's just straight up racism and sexual jealousy. Now Jo, that's a woman you want to avoid in your Tinder travels. She's basically the female version of a redpiller, and not just because of the white nationalism. She's obsessed with powerful men, they're obsessed with young virgins. She uses her sexuality to get what she wants from men. They use whatever they've got to get sex from women. Both are users who are out for themselves. It rarely en…
/r/ExRedPill18/01/18 12:06 AM
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PS: maybe this is too off-topic -- but maybe not! I just finished reading about Jo Marney and the UKIP dude. So is she one of those cock munchers or whatever you called it on Tinder these days? God I love a good British sex scandal. The women are never just ordinary skanks. They always turn out to be Russian spies or in this case fame-obsessed racist nutjobs, and they bring down governments. All very exciting!
/r/ExRedPill17/01/18 09:38 PM
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With addiction, moderation is actually harder than abstinence. But I'll let the redpill douchebags yell at you about that.
/r/ExRedPill17/01/18 07:18 PM
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Good luck on that oil rig/mining camp meeting ladies, LOL. That's impressive, you found a field even more male-centric than computers. I would google around to find a support group for the gaming. And maybe the next time you want to game, force yourself to read about gaming addiction instead. Are there any sports you enjoy playing?
/r/ExRedPill17/01/18 07:02 PM
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My friends who have been on Tinder say they make it clear they're looking for relationships and then no matter how slowly they take it, as soon as the sex happens, they get ghosted. They've moved onto other apps or are trying to meet guys in the real world. I don't know, you say they all want chad. I guess the party girls probably do, but hopefully you don't want the party girls. I say get yourself into decent shape -- it's better for your health anyway -- and join a support group to get off gam…
/r/ExRedPill17/01/18 06:44 PM
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The dating scene has changed, that's for sure. But people haven't changed. Women and men, and what they want, hasn't changed. Young women have been sold a bill of goods with this hook up culture, made more confusing because feminism these days says it's good to be sex positive (good in theory, but I believe quite bad in its current practice, since hook up culture benefits men, not women). This is why I believe it won't last. What was your experience with Tinder? I'm assuming you are still a virg…
/r/ExRedPill17/01/18 05:35 PM
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Social media + online dating gives women an army of thirsty dudes from which they can pick from PS: You really don't get it. Tinder has been terrible for women. You don't get 'dating' from Tinder, you get hookups, which very few women actually want. Tinder was developed by men to bring gay hookup culture to the straight world -- it's the way gay men relate, and it's the way straight men have always wanted to relate to women. That's why every woman I know ends up deleting her Tinder account in di…
/r/ExRedPill17/01/18 04:03 PM
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Statistics do lie, friend. You're very young. Why you're so sure you know what you're talking about when you are completely inexperienced with women, dating and sex? All of this leaves me wondering what you're trying so hard to talk yourself into. I guess what redpill does is to convince you that half the human race is not quite human, and as such, you have their permission to lie, manipulate, abuse and basically do whatever it takes to get what you want out of women. And since women haven't fal…
/r/ExRedPill17/01/18 03:47 PM
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LOL, I didn't settle, I lost interest in swarthy Italian guys, but nice try. There were always "thirsty dudes," believe me. Now they've got a way to hook up with random strangers that they can more easily pump and dump. The young women I know these days are far more cynical about men and dating than my friends and I were. And I remember you said you're going to put a topless photo of yourself on Tinder. I once asked a young, sexually adventurous friend of mine about whether she can spot the redp…
/r/ExRedPill17/01/18 01:52 PM
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I'm going to take a wild guess here and predict that life would be different if you addressed the gaming and porn addiction that leads to crippling social anxiety among so many young men today. Or the autism, if you are on the spectrum. Your problem is certainly not being 5'8. My husband is 5'8 and has never had the slightest "game" as we Americans call it, and he always managed to have girlfriends and get laid. When I was young, I had a strong attraction to dark, swarthy Italian guys, and waste…
/r/ExRedPill17/01/18 12:26 PM
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But if I went with girls who were my level of attractiveness.... ;) ...abs and a lean jawline are attractive traits. Obviously none of this matters if you can barely make eye contact with the person across the table from you. Jesus. But it's my mistake. Literally every time I've gotten into a back and forth with a young redpiller, he turns out to be on the spectrum. You guys are wringing your hands because you're "only" 6'2 or you're convinced your life would be perfect if you just had a more ma…
/r/ExRedPill16/01/18 11:09 PM
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Sigh. Another guy on the spectrum. Women don't give a shit about your abs or your jawline but you will never understand this. That girl who walked out of your date after 20 minutes was not appalled at your lack of a Chad jawline -- but I can understand why it would be less painful to think this was the reason. You're not getting anywhere because people with autism are very hard to date. Sorry, it's not your fault. But there are therapists who know how to deal with you. I hope you can get the kin…
/r/ExRedPill16/01/18 07:44 PM
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Congratulations on missing all my points! You think like a horny young guy and you seem unable to shift your focus to understand how others think and feel. Some drunk girl goes home with a random stranger and lets him fuck her? She must have enjoyed it! Loneliness, desperation, pressure, or liking a guy and thinking this is the only way to show it, none of this comes into it for you, does it? You want things to be simple and surface, and this is why redpill attracts you. There's a book about tee…
/r/ExRedPill16/01/18 06:21 PM
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Re. 'pure harassment' from pick up artists. Some time ago I put this question to an online group of women I'm part of, which includes a lot of trophy wives. Everyone agreed that they have never been approached on the street by a decent guy, let alone the kind you're describing. Sorry but quality guys don't try to pick up women on the street. Douchebag PUAs prefer this approach because they don't actually want social ties to the women they plan on pumping and dumping. Edit: If a good looking guy …
/r/ExRedPill16/01/18 02:22 PM
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Girls generally don't appreciate being approached by a stranger the same way a guy might. I'm a woman and nothing good has ever come from a guy trying to pick me up on the street. Ever. For most women, this is pure harassment: pick up artists are sleazy and scary. Re. "shitty" advice to just be yourself. A lot of women neglect to tell you to lose weight and shower regularly because it's hard for us to understand that men need to be told this. We have grown up with a relentless focus on our looks…
/r/ExRedPill16/01/18 01:24 AM
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Depends on your attitude. Are you just trying to get in her pants? Are you going to suck up to her and constantly try to win her affection through favours, and then resent her when she doesn't sleep with you?
/r/ExRedPill12/12/17 03:06 PM
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A genuinely nice guy does well in life because his goals are in line with what he has to offer. A guy who pretends to be nice to suck up to hot women is the worst kind of hypocrite, and he will be used and treated with contempt. How do women know the difference? A genuinely nice guy wants a genuinely nice woman of his own level of attractiveness. He's not greedy and thinking he's entitled to the hottest woman in the room, no matter what he brings to the table, and thinking if he drives her aroun…
/r/ExRedPill12/12/17 03:02 PM
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I'm female and went through a period of being really upset at the existence of redpill too. But then someone pointed out that sub has something like 200k subscribers, and there are subs dedicated to fluffy kittens that have 25 million readers. So perspective is important. In real life, I've told dozens of people about redpill, and not one knew anything about it. I've shown that page to male friends, who just laughed and refused to even take it seriously. These are good guys, the kind you'd want …
/r/ExRedPill11/12/17 05:52 PM
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Unfortunately, hookup culture has forced a lot of young women to consider much older men, since guys your age are less likely to want to settle down. Any therapist will tell you that men who exclusively date younger women are insecure and controlling. What would you think of a guy in his late 30s who was only friends with people in their early 20s? You'd know there was something wrong with him, right? Of course you can meet a controlling asshole your own age. But the chances are much, much highe…
/r/ExRedPill11/12/17 03:10 PM
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This is a bit of an aside, but one of the strangest things about TRP is its insistence that young women are out there sleeping with every 'hot' guy they can find. In reality, most men complain that women don't like sex enough! And women don't even hit our sexual peak until later in life. In their ignorance, TRPers simply ascribe male desires to women's behavior. Did you ever watch Sex and the City? The joke among women is that Samantha, the sexually promiscuous woman on that show, is basically a…
/r/ExRedPill11/12/17 02:19 AM
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"His dream is to make $1M/year one day, and he's on track to achieve that." It's clear you worship your brother, and that's very sweet. But have you thought about whether you really share these values? Greed has become a bit of a sickness in American society, and it's a bit of a shame that someone's greatest dream is to make more money than anybody needs. I think this is relevant to bring up because it's the first thing you say about him to establish what an incredible guy he is. Also, if every …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 02:52 PM
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Research shows nice women end up with nice men and vice versa. Same with attractiveness: women are more attractive than men because of makeup and effort, but controlling for that, most people are with others of the same level of attractiveness. It's only the exceptions you notice, but the exceptions are what drive you nuts. Most women absolutely can smell the misogyny on men, and they will avoid them like the plague. But women who are broken, struggle with mental health or emotional problems, we…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 02:44 PM
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love-respect dynamic within the marriage ....said no TERPer ever, LOL RedPill is religion, but its religion is hypocrisy and amorality. And you can't leave that stuff aside -- the plate spinning, the cheating, the dread, the manipulation -- it's all core to their belief that women are self-serving, amoral children who "need" to be dealt with in this deeply disrespectful and humiliating way. They make it very clear you're supposed to accept all their pseudo-science, including the absurd self-serv…
/r/ExRedPill16/09/17 12:57 PM
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When a woman tells you she's only with you because she has nowhere else to go, your marriage is over. At this point she's thoroughly humiliated, and she despises you. For men, lack of sex makes a marriage turn bad. For women, lack of sex is the symptom of a marriage that has turned bad. Your wife feels so humiliated by the way you're treating her that you touching her would make her skin crawl. The idea that sex will restore intimacy is crazy -- only men think that way. She'd rather stab herself…
/r/askMRP08/09/17 12:01 AM
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You'd love the guy the other day on TRP who describes himself as a Christian, but cheats on his partner with multiple women. He wants to abandon her and his three kids to find an 18-year old virgin because he just can't respect a woman who has been with other men.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/17 10:59 PM
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This doesn't surprise me. Red Pill is based on the idea that women are fundamentally flawed, and therefore it's ok to debase them. Reminds me of the Bible's brand of misogyny: “A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.” (1 Timothy 2:11-14) Also not surprising that the guy wh…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/17 10:56 PM
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Lately I've been wondering if Red Pill could actually work for guys who are married to women with serious mental health or emotional problems. The only woman I can picture it working on is a relative of mine with bipolar disorder. When they counsel men to 'maintain frame' through their wives' erratic, irrational outbursts, I picture her. I guess for guys who married the hot but crazy one (or wants to) and now he's got kids with her, it would be less painful to think that All Women Are Like That,…
/r/ExRedPill05/09/17 12:52 AM
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those guys who married virgins weren't in their 30s already and didn't already have families, I'm guessing.... Few people realize is that very young women, while at their most sexually appealing, have the lowest sex drive of their lives, especially in their teens. The opposite is true of men....teenage boys are generally repulsive, but have the highest sex drive they'll ever experience. Maybe it's mother nature's (cruel) way of keeping the species in check.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/09/17 12:38 AM
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An 18 year old girl who marries a 33 year old man with kids either has rock bottom self esteem or is desperate to leave a very fucked up family situation, but probably both. A 23 year old virgin may have social anxiety, or is possibly on the autism spectrum, or is very religious/really values 'purity.' In the latter case, a guy who's willing to walk away from his family, whether he supports them financially or not, won't be someone she respects. And whether or not you tell her that you cheat on …
/r/MarriedRedPill26/08/17 04:14 PM
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After a brief look at your history, all I can say is that the rise of sex dolls is going to be a great thing.
/r/ExRedPill21/07/17 10:47 AM
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The insecurity is worrying that she has more of a sexual past than you do. I think in general if you're not having a satisfying sex life and she's not willing to discuss it with you, then yeah, you have a problem. It's just very different than the one you described in your OP.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/17 02:24 AM
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oh just wondering because you said 'wager.' most americans would say 'bet.' i always assume on reddit i'm talking to an american unless the person sounds ESL or British. doesn't change anything, i was just curious.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/17 02:08 AM
2

But flip that around -- a guy is willing to walk away from a woman, and not proceed with marriage and children, just because she won't have sex on a swing with him? Obviously he doesn't really love her. And he's certainly not the one she should be making such a massive commitment to, because if that's enough to make him walk, he's not going the distance with her anyway. Why wouldn't a guy like this dump her after using up all her young years? Look, if certain very specific sexual acts are that i…
/r/ExRedPill20/07/17 02:06 AM
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LOL, if anything, because of rampant slut shaming, women sometimes let loose their wild side around men they deem "inferior" and act much more sexually conservative around men they might want to have a future with.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/17 12:15 AM
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are you british or australian?
/r/ExRedPill20/07/17 12:11 AM
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Wait, you mean basically a hammock? This is about the fact that she's had sex in a hammock and you haven't? Buddy.... What does redpill say happens when men turn 40? and what kind of relationship are you looking for?
/r/ExRedPill19/07/17 09:46 PM
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I think for the sake of your relationship you need to examine why you feel entitled to demand that she swing with you -- even though she doesn't want to --just because she tried it in the past. The vast majority of women don't want to swing. Sounds like she doesn't feel comfortable talking to you honestly about how she feels. Is that because you're so invested in making it happen, and you're pressuring her? She likely has no idea that her boyfriend is influenced by a movement that sees men as ei…
/r/ExRedPill19/07/17 06:34 PM
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That's awful. I can understand why you would be vulnerable to a site like TRP after an experience like that. You sound like you might be a particularly sensitive guy with some real vulnerabilities. I can understand the seduction of a movement that explains what happened to you is somehow part of the natural order, and tries to harden you against women as a way to guard against future pain. The problem is you never get told about the enormous costs associated with their cynical, paranoid world vi…
/r/ExRedPill18/07/17 04:01 PM
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I'm so sorry for what happened to you. What an awful, mind-warping experience. It's important to understand that we all experience heartbreak. Men and women. And like another poster said, it's healthy to experience your emotions, get angry, get upset, feel empathy for yourself. But gradually most people recover and are able to move on, and continue to trust members of the opposite sex. For some reason, a lot of men who find their way to sites like redpill and MGTOW don't seem to have the resilie…
/r/ExRedPill18/07/17 02:21 PM
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Sounds like you're trying to tell me that you're not a redpill guy. You could have saved a lot of time just coming out and saying it.
/r/ExRedPill18/07/17 11:25 AM
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Why am I bringing up redpill on a forum for people trying to leave redpill?
/r/ExRedPill18/07/17 12:22 AM
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What you call an empty platitude is the heart of the matter. You just don't have the wisdom to see it. Ultimately, redpill is brimming with men who have no respect for themselves. Redpill doesn't teach them to respect themselves. It teaches them to disrespect and debase the thing they want (women) so that they have the confidence to go after it.
/r/ExRedPill17/07/17 09:18 PM
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"I don't care about women's problems" You fail with women because of your attitude and personality. Being ugly makes it harder, but plenty of ugly men are in relationships.
/r/ExRedPill17/07/17 08:07 PM
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And one of those problems is failure with women. See how that works?
/r/ExRedPill17/07/17 06:46 PM
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This is where redpill guys really don't get it. I'm not saying be her doormat or put on a nice guy act. Nobody respects that. And being a "nice guy" doesn't entitle you to women far more attractive than you are -- think of the illogic in that. Men who genuinely like and respect women don't think this way, and they certainly don't try to suck up to women to get in their pants. They treat women equally, not as some sort of strategy to get laid, but because they have character. I guarantee these gu…
/r/ExRedPill17/07/17 01:10 PM
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Your friend sounds like a bit of a sociopath. A certain percentage of the population does find it easy and fun to manipulate people, but it's both men and women. God knows redpill is full of men who enjoy doing this. I think the real question is why would you take one bad person and generalize about half the human race based on them? Do you know any men who are assholes, who treat women badly? Do you think their behaviour is a window into the nature of an entire gender?
/r/ExRedPill13/07/17 11:08 PM
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Sorry to hear it. I agree -- isolation is very warping! I hope you discover some other site that's helpful but more grounded in reality. Maybe others on here have recommendations....
/r/ExRedPill13/07/17 09:05 PM
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Good luck out there! My husband was divorced when I met him (his parents also had a long lasting marriage but probably not a happy one) and we're going strong 10+ years!
/r/ExRedPill13/07/17 07:32 PM
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Do you know how many women are out there right now saying the same damn thing? Growing up it used to fucking kill me to see the kinds of women guys would flock to. Good guys too. I had to remind myself it wasn't all guys all the time. It was some guys, and often this was their pattern but sometimes it was a moment of weakness. What are you going to do? The world isn't a 100 percent logical or fair place. Ideologies like redpill are seductive because they make you think there's some kind of infal…
/r/ExRedPill13/07/17 07:24 PM
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We're very good at sensing men who have bad attitudes toward women, that's for sure. And I'm going to go ahead and anticipate your response by clarifying that by "we" I don't mean every single last woman at all times. If you're a guy who wants to learn how to take advantage of other people's weaknesses, by all means, keep going with the redpill thing. Good luck finding and maintaining a healthy relationship (good luck even knowing what one is.)
/r/ExRedPill13/07/17 06:37 PM
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Most feminists I know would say both are true. And doesn't common sense tell you this is the right answer?
/r/ExRedPill13/07/17 06:27 PM
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Well of course they fell into that category. The fact that Hugo got some women doesn't mean that he could get most women. Not sure I understand your second point.
/r/ExRedPill13/07/17 06:06 PM
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Easy. Same reason pimps exist. Or PUAs. There will always be women who are young and vulnerable, with no self esteem, who are weak or naive, who were raised not to know what a healthy relationship looks like, or whose "picker" is broken. Do you want one of these women? Would you be satisfied with the knowledge that you control your life partner through lies, manipulation, head games, and by breaking her spirit and making her feel that she's such a worthless piece of shit she only deserves an equ…
/r/ExRedPill13/07/17 05:19 PM
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Everyone could probably use someone to talk to. But aside from that, any guy who's vulnerable to redpill ideology does have issues. And I don't know how else to deal with them other than by exploring them in therapy. The biggest problem is usually lack of reasonable role models for a relationship. I bet a huge number of redpill guys had parents with bad marriages, and are very scared of intimacy because of it. That's a very deep seated problem that takes a while to work through. Aside from bad m…
/r/ExRedPill13/07/17 03:33 PM
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It's not a contradiction because there isn't just one way to attract a woman. Status is certainly a way to do it, but not every man wants or is able to have a high powered career. And I don't think status is the best way. I've spent years on a website populated by New York women married to exceptionally high-status men. Many of those women feel their husbands are assholes, and many want out, or are divorced. (Interestingly for you redpillers, the biggest problem by far is that the men tend to be…
/r/ExRedPill13/07/17 03:24 PM
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You're thinking like a man. You don't seem to understand much about women. Sure, many women can get a man for a one-night stand. But for her, that's usually worse than nothing. She takes all the risk (pregnancy, physical harm, much higher transmission of STDs), and gets almost none of the benefit. The man has an orgasm. Women almost never get sexual satisfaction from a one-night stand. Penetration feels either painful or like nothing at all to the majority of women (unless she's in a LTR and the…
/r/ExRedPill12/07/17 11:42 PM
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