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But when she was in her 20s and as pretty as she'll ever have been, "society's conditioning" told her to find an alpha, to ride the CC, or to do this or that dishonorable thing and she never did. She always chased my friend, who is a beta. She always stayed in and knitted, or would go out just to go to the movies or something - never bars or clubs. This is what I'm saying: she wasn't your typical Westernized "liberated woman" who sleeps around and portrays herself differently than she is, lookin…
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 01:32 PM
1

That's true, but she doesn't pay any attention to that nonsense. That's what I'm saying. She's cut from a different cloth. She really does disprove AWALT in every way that I've seen and it has been 12 years and counting.
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 01:29 PM
-1

I don't know, man. In the experiences I've had, the women who divorced or cheated were women who flirted with the husband's friends, or who dressed immodestly, or who had male friends and went clubbing or were outgoing, extroverted types. She's the exact opposite; very few friends, stays in, hates clubs, love knitting and watching TV, and defers to her husband. Very traditional and pleasant. Not a "what have you done for me lately?/I want to find myself and be a liberated woman" type.
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 06:52 AM
2

I hear what you're saying, but he's not a wealthy man, and she's not a 20 year old pretty girl anymore. She divorce rapes him and she's getting hardly anything, not finding another man any time soon, and hurting their child. If she had model good looks and was in her 20s, or he was a millionaire, it would be more of a possibility, I suppose, but that's my point; she chased him when she looked as good as she ever would, and he was just as not wealthy then.
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 06:50 AM
2

She's a 5 out of 10. She's not finding any millionaire to branch swing to, even if she was of that kind of personality.
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 04:50 AM
-3

I found an exception. This is what I'm saying.
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 04:49 AM
0

It has been over 10 years of them being together. She continues to consider a good night out to be a night spent with him, inside, binging a TV show. She's otherwise working, or raising their son together.
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 04:46 AM
1

Man, it's not "forcing" anything. It's depriving them. You take a certain amount of time every month where they can't have relations. This ensures they're dying to fuck. When they're permitted, they ravage each other. Repeated, month after month -- rather than just letting them smash whenever they want so they get sick of each other.
/r/MGTOW05/01/21 01:18 PM
1

There's no need for racism. Just look at the facts: they were two of the most absurdly good looking people on Earth, in their primes, and after enough years of smashing as much as they wanted, with no controls, they lost interest in each other. Put controls on frequency of sex and it keeps things passionate. It's not that you can't have a good sex life without it -- perhaps you can and perhaps you can't -- it's that these controls are put in place to ensure you do.
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 01:14 PM
1

Yes, just a few times, but yes. She dated guys after me that I'm sure she had sex with many times.
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 06:38 AM
1

In this one aspect, yes. Religions get a handful of things correct. I've seen plenty of people make this point on MGTOW and TRP forums. Even a broken watch is correct twice a day, so when you see Islam and Judaism not letting people smash for weeks at a time, you better believe they'll be ready to smash when they're permitted. Even Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt got tired of fucking each other. Why? Because there were no controls.
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 01:00 AM
1

You've seen this for religious Jewish and Muslim communities, where family purity laws are enacted? I'm not talking about secular Muslims or Jews; they're no different than people of any other religion.
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 12:59 AM
1

It's not. I agree that dead bedrooms are common in American marriages, but you are not well versed in the family purity laws of Islam and Judaism; they ensure sex continues and passion remains.
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 12:58 AM
2

Yes, you're right. This is the root of the issue, I think -- I'm angry at not having been able to lock it down before she added notches to her count because I wouldn't commit. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW03/01/21 08:45 PM
4

But me stopping is not going to stop women.
/r/MGTOW03/01/21 08:44 PM
1

With the girl I lost went any other option. She was the only one I connected with and put up with my own faults. Why do you say I dodged a bullet, please?
/r/MGTOW03/01/21 06:41 PM
1

Which is what happened to me. I just watched her marry some poor schmuck who doesn't know her number or her past . . . But what he doesn't know can't hurt him, and he has the girl and I don't, so who really won, and who really lost?
/r/MGTOW03/01/21 06:12 PM
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Fair enough. I suppose, then, that my main issue is that I'm torn in that I look at the guy my ex just married and ignorance is bliss. He thinks he hit the jackpot because he doesn't know how many men she has been with, and I can feel bad for the poor bastard... But what he doesn't know can't hurt him, and he's got the girl, and I don't.
/r/MGTOW03/01/21 06:11 PM
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I don't at all disagree with this .... but for one example, and a pretty strong one. Jews and Muslims who keep the laws of marital purity (separation during the menses) are obligated to have sex once the period is completed. This not only assures attraction is maintained (you're dying to touch your wife but are not able to for a fixed period each month), but that the bedroom never dies because you're supposed to smash as soon as this period ends. It's genius, and it works. In these cases, the be…
/r/MGTOW03/01/21 06:10 PM
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But how can a man truly "get over" this and not feel like a cuck who got the shit end of the deal? And those who don't know are suckers too! I refuse to feel like a cuck, or to take the chance and always be wondering if she's hiding shit from me. I have seen so many examples of people showing engagement photos on social media, the poor bastard man having no fucking idea how skanky the woman has been in her past. I refuse to be that guy. I'm not doing it out of self respect.
/r/MGTOW03/01/21 05:39 PM
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Regular sex is a benefit, for as long as that lasts of course. (In religious communities, it continues on, so I can see marriage being worth it there).
/r/MGTOW03/01/21 05:27 PM
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Why, though? What good can possibly come from lying to yourself or pretending you're ok with this? It will only lead to resentment and problems. I don't understand this.
/r/MGTOW03/01/21 05:27 PM
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They're in a very religious community, so it'll be interesting to see if she does. One of the reasons I didn't pull the trigger with her was because I didn't want that shit, but she wasn't religious when I was with her. She's changed and become religious now. Thanks for your reply.
/r/MGTOW18/12/20 01:54 AM
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When you were dating, did she pull shit like that? I have a case of a woman who was afraid of hitting the wall without getting married first, so she didn't do it to her current, new husband. I am curious as to whether or not she will, now that they're married and she's locked in. She did it with me when we dated, that's for sure.
/r/MGTOW17/12/20 07:02 PM
1

I don't care if this sounds petty: That makes me happy. Thank you for saying this.
/r/MGTOW17/12/20 02:41 PM
1

Very kind of you to say. The only reason I worry this isn't true is because they're in a religious community. Controls are easier placed on women there. That's the only reason I hesitate to feel secure in that prediction. I'd otherwise say it's written in the stars.
/r/MGTOW17/12/20 05:27 AM
2

I journal a lot, sure. It helps to get the stuff out, but there's just so, so much of it that it's never fully helpful, unfortunately. Thank you for the suggestion.
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 04:03 AM
2

I used to have the motivation to write, but I have lost interest in many things, and this was one of them that I lost, too. It's a pity, because finding success with it could help me monetarily, and would be such a sweet feeling in the midst of all this crap I've been dealing with, but I just can't do anything but lay in bed.
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 11:20 PM
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I hope so, sir. Right now, it feels like I've lost.
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 10:55 PM
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All of this is true, no doubt, but I have found a loophole to it, and it happens to be where she is right now: religious communities. While there are divorces there, they are at a much lower rate. I realize this is not due to human nature not being the same there, but rather controls that are put in place, but this is what bothers me. She will last with him because she's locked into a culture that will ensure it. It really bothers me. Four kids!!! She took on four kids that aren't hers, changed …
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 08:55 PM
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Amen. I wish so much for this to happen already. So many months wasted in sadness, drinking, moping around. The most silly part about it is that she has no idea and it's not affecting her in any way. It's such a waste. I don't know about you, but I'm OCD, so I obsess over this more than a "normal" person would, I believe. It makes it so much worse and wasteful. It feels good to hear from others that I'm not alone in this. I was very ignorant to how common this is until happened to me.
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 04:31 PM
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I do not doubt anything you say here. It's hard to keep focused on this when you're in this situation, though, but I know you're right.
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 02:12 PM
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I am not saying this to be a contrarian, but do you believe that's 100% inevitable? I've seen pictures of her with the kids and it's unfuckingbelievable. She's holding them, laughing and having a good time, and it's like their her own. I hope what you say is true, because if it happens, she'll get in touch with me one day down the road.
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 08:51 AM
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Thank you very much for this. I have no idea who you are but you've been a big help with this crap. Seriously.
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 06:27 AM
1

Thanks for this.
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 02:13 AM
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Really appreciate this. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 02:10 AM
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Thank you. Thanks very much for the correspondence.
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 01:42 AM
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I see. This is, of course, very sound advice. Thank you for corresponding with me, and for your time.
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 01:05 AM
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I truly appreciate this. It looks like we're more than 99pc similar; I'm a creative writer too. Thank you very much for taking the time to draft this.
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 01:04 AM
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Appreciate the comment, but why do you say this, if I can ask?
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 12:13 AM
2

Do not get me wrong -- I appreciate your correspondence, and am genuinely interested in understanding your point of view -- but why do you say she had emotional instabilities? She had worry of the wall, yes, but she was otherwise very stable mentally and EXTREMELY low maintenance and just free of drama. That's why I see it as such a shame and a waste. (American girls who aren't princesses or drama queens are a rarity) I have tried to tell myself what you say -- that I'm lucky to be free of the r…
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 11:55 PM
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She proactively signed up for a situation that is absolutely not ideal in any way (who the hell wants to raise four kids of another person?), completely changed her lifestyle and her day to day routine (becoming religious, with all that entails, is not a "fun" endeavor, especially when you grew up listening to gangsta rap, going dancing in clubs, etc.), and looked as happy as I've ever seen her in her engagement photos (and wedding photos). I am not arguing to be a contrarian -- I'd love nothing…
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 11:52 PM
1

I wish so much that this was true, and I appreciate the hell out of this, but the one and only factor that keeps me from being able to take full comfort in this is that she became religious, moved to a religious neighborhood, etc, all for this to work. In these communities, straying, cheating, texting other men, etc, are very rare. I'm not saying female nature changes, but there are controls in place to hamper it.
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 11:49 PM
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Thank you SO MUCH for saying this. I am unfamiliar with this kind of scenario, so it makes me feel better to read this kind of thing and get this perspective. My hope is that she'll get annoyed with him, or they'll argue, or time will simply make him (and marriage) less exciting, and she'll remember me (she knows I'm longing for her), and she'll get in touch. For a "regular" woman, that's not farfetched at all, but she's ultra religious now, so I don't believe it will happen, and it sucks. I've …
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 10:15 PM
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Thank you. Last question, I promise: how long after the first one and you were over was it before you started to feel better again and didn't think about her anymore? This one has been married for over a year. It's been a little over a year of being miserable and I'm sick of it.
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 10:13 PM
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Appreciate the words. Even before MGTOW, all the girls I tried to give dating a chance with always came across as stupid and not worth my time. Most have married and I honestly don't care. I feel bad for their husbands. But this is the one -- she was always the one -- that I felt I could make it work with if I could make it work with any of them on Planet Earth. That's why it sucks so much. I don't, and never have, longed for any other woman.
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 09:35 PM
2

I agree with this, but the problem is that she's not an entitled American twat. She was a decent, down to earth girl that was very low maintenance. That's what sucks about all of this. Girls like that are a jewel in the West these days.
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 09:32 PM
1

I know it's silly and simpish, but I hope for the day that she proves AWALT, getting tired of her situation and checking in with me. I just don't see it happening, though. She completely changed her life to be with him and lock this down, taking on four children that aren't hers just to ensure it.
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 08:10 PM
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I appreciate you corresponding with me. She was nearing the wall (she told me as much, and I stupidly teased her for it too), and very unhappy with not having found anyone. There were no orbiters; she was a very plain-looking girl. She never had luck with men, always dating assholes. I wasn't one, but I didn't appreciate her when I had her. He's a widower with four kids, so to have a woman make herself pretty (she lost weight and everything) and agree to take care of his four kids as her own is …
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 08:09 PM
2

We did have sex, but not a lot. Had I appreciated her more, we could have been banging for years, but when she was there for the taking, I didn't pay as much attention as I should have. We fooled around a lot, for sure. I miss her being there whenever I wanted to be in touch, and it made me feel good knowing a girl who was fun like that and cute like that was interested in me. She wanted me to marry her but I never pulled the trigger. It's interesting. Months after she got married, I got in touc…
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 07:53 PM
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I see what you're saying. I appreciate you taking the time. We were on and off for 12 years, and I never had that kind of closeness with any other woman, so it stings, and I miss her. You should see the douche she's with now, too. I try to rationalize it by saying he got her after a bunch of guys did, but I miss her so much it doesn't make me feel better. I do appreciate you taking the time to correspond. Please know that.
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 07:49 PM
0

BOOM! I knew it! I'm not crazy!!! This needs to be addressed! This ruins AWALT theory completely.
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 07:40 PM
2

The beta bucks snag issue is what I also thought was at play here, and it gave me comfort to think of the nagging and cheating that might take place afterward . . . but the issue of them being in an ultra-religious community is the one thing making me think it won't happen. Perhaps she'll nag him, but straying and making him regret things, I don't see. He's got to be living on Cloud 9 with a wife who came in to help him raise all the baggage 4 kids he has. He hit the jackpot. I don't say the abo…
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 07:28 PM
2

Totally fair. My issue here is that I was on and off with her for 12 years and could have had her, but I let her slip and she goes and does this. Thank you for corresponding with me. I'm losing my mind, and someone else acknowledging the situation -- especially a MGTOW follower -- softens the blow.
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 07:26 PM
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I'm missing the point of your post. Can you please explain?
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 07:04 PM
1

You have no idea how much I hope that to be true. (One of the reasons I never committed to her was because I didn't want to marry her and have her do that to me with past boyfriends)
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 06:53 PM
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I know this is AWALT theory, and I've seen it for sure, but the one place I've never seen it is in the one place she is: a religious, closed off community. This is the absolute one place I've seen their nature kept inhibited. Muslims, Jews, etc -- when they're in their closed off communities, this happens far the hell less then in any other place. I'd otherwise be inclined to agree. (I want you to be right about this, mind you. Don't get me wrong!)
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 06:52 PM
2

I appreciate this comment very much, but this is easier to believe with typical entitled American women. Such women, however, do not marry men with four kids when they have none. Even with this being her case, you really think she's going to make this guy's life a living hell -- gratefulness at having been rescued from the wall and all?
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 06:32 PM
2

In regards to "the conflict never ends," do you believe this is true in cases of women who are scared to death of the approaching wall and who have been unsuccessful in finding someone? What about women like that, being overly grateful to have found someone?
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 06:06 PM
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I'm so sorry to say that this is true. It's not deniable anymore. They're out of their fucking minds.
/r/MGTOW08/10/20 04:43 PM
7

I wish there was a way to fast forward a woman's life and show her what's going to happen to her when she hits the wall.
/r/MGTOW08/10/20 04:35 PM
5

They're so not worth any trouble dealing with them. Without vaginas, we'd fucking hunt them for sport.
/r/MGTOW08/10/20 04:34 PM
2

Nailed it.
/r/MGTOW08/10/20 04:33 PM
3

This is what I don't understand, though: why is that their goal? In certain cases, it goes against what's good for them.
/r/MGTOW08/10/20 03:12 PM
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I wish. Next month marks a year since this shit started.
/r/MGTOW02/10/20 03:31 PM
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Oh, I see what you're saying. No, I already have come to understand how not worth the irritation of women the vagina is, but with her, there was a nice level of comfort where she was less insane than any other woman I had to deal with. I know AWALT and all of that, but I miss her company. It's hard to just lose a 10 year companion.
/r/MGTOW02/10/20 03:01 PM
1

Huh?
/r/MGTOW01/10/20 07:17 PM
1

I'm not exactly smashing all the girls, so to have one that I connected with, and was very close to for so many years -- it just really sucks having lost that.
/r/MGTOW01/10/20 05:48 PM
2

You have no idea how helpful this is. I'm stuck in the oneitis phase, so to hear someone's point of view who is not, and who can think clearly, is tremendously effective. Thanks.
/r/MGTOW30/09/20 08:11 PM
1

I hear you. I've seen pictures of this guy and he looks like an animal, so I have no trouble believing he was emtionally abusive. I'm quite certain she was just desperate to marry and dated him for that reason. Not the best judgment, sure, but we agree that all women fear the wall, so nothing so surprising either. The problem is that out of the few girls I seriously dated back in the day, she was the sweetest to me and the one I felt most comfortable with. That's why it pains me so much that she…
/r/MGTOW30/09/20 12:48 PM
2

I wish I could internalize this already. I've been suffering this oneitis bullshit for months. Can't get over her. Thanks for the correspondence.
/r/MGTOW30/09/20 12:24 PM
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Completely agree with the second part. I just wish I could internalize the first. We were off and on for 10 years. The guy she cheated on was a boyfriend she had during one of our off-periods. She got married recently and I can't shake the oneitis regret.
/r/MGTOW30/09/20 05:28 AM
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Would her having cheated on an emotionally abusive ex be a red flag that would stop you from being with her? A truly asshole-ish boyfriend who treated her like shit, and she cheated on him at the end of the relationship, when it was clearly going to go south anyway. Would that stop you?
/r/MGTOW30/09/20 04:53 AM
1

Very sound advice. Thank you. Seriously.
/r/MGTOW31/05/20 02:08 PM
2

I literally just saw this reply now. Thank you for taking the time to respond.
/r/MGTOW21/05/20 04:26 PM
1

The thing is she didn't spend her 20's "whoring." I mistakenly referred to her as a plate. She was a woman who wanted me to marry her, and we never dated only because I refused to commit, so we'd just spend time and fool around. She dated on and off for 10 years, and I am sure she slept with the boyfriends, no doubt. That, and I know she had a fling with another man when dating one of the guys she was with. It's not the most ladylike behavior, but I perhaps made her out to be a woman who just sl…
/r/MGTOW10/05/20 06:30 AM
2

Appreciate it. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW06/05/20 02:10 PM
2

Never tried them, no. But it caught my attention when I read microdosing shrooms supposedly has removed seriously PTSD from test subject. I have very bad PTSD rooted from childhood, and I'd like nothing more than to get it out of my head.
/r/MGTOW06/05/20 05:09 AM
2

Just grabbed it. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW06/05/20 05:08 AM
1

Thank you. (If I do bite the bullet and do it, how do I ensure I don't find myself in the middle of a police sting?)
/r/MGTOW06/05/20 05:07 AM
1

Thank you very much for responding. Congratulations on your success.
/r/MGTOW06/05/20 12:00 AM
1

It has been six. Nothing has ever fucked me up for six straight months like this, but indeed, it's not as bad now as it was in October. When she got engaged, holy shit was I depressed.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 11:57 PM
1

It does. It really does. Thank you for taking the time to write this. I admire how you were able to bounce back. Thank you again.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 11:56 PM
1

Thank you for reading my post and taking the time to respond.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 11:55 PM
1

Not a problem at all
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 07:09 PM
1

Done.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:43 PM
1

Please explain. I don't understand the question.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 03:57 PM
1

You suggest using them?
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 03:14 PM
1

You said it exactly: the dopamine rush. I miss the times we spent together, because the comfort level I had with her was such that it was just a straight dopamine rush. Now it's gone. That said, you were correct in what you wrote. Thank you for taking the time.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 03:13 PM
1

I couldn't be it for her even if I wanted to anymore. She's gone. But I hear you. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 03:11 PM
1

Thank you very much. I will absolutely look into this.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:10 PM
2

I appreciate that. Thank you for taking the time.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:09 PM
1

Sound advice. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:09 PM
1

I don't deny this, but that doesn't mean nothing I'm dealing with is valid.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:08 PM
2

Gotcha. Thank you for taking the time to write.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:08 PM
1

No doubt. I just recently started.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:48 AM
1

It's very much like a drug, yes. I've learned it's called limerence, and it has come back full force, now that she's gone. Thank you for taking the time to read my post and responding. I really appreciate it. You were absolutely right in what you wrote, by the way. No doubt.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:33 AM
2

I sincerely appreciate you having read my post and responding like this. Thank you for taking the time. I agree with you; it's just a little hard to kick the thoughts and memories. Your response is 100pc accurate though, no question. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:32 AM
1

I appreciate it, but it's just so much easier said than done. I've gone through tough times, but nothing's ever fucked me up for 6 straight months like this.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:31 AM
1

Thank you very much for saying this.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:31 AM
4

Holy fuck, thank you for saying that. I laughed uncontrollably and then realized there was no arguing it. I am clouded with memories of the good times I had with her, in our 20s, mainly, but this shut that shit down starkly. Thank you for reading my post and responding.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:30 AM
3

You have no idea how much that hit home. The day I found out she was engaged, I heard a new song that is, in itself, very evoking of emotion. With the timing of it, being anchored to her engagement, it was unreal. For the first couple of months, all I'd do was play this goddamned song and think about her. It was unhealthy, so I stopped. But I'm digressing. It absolutely has to come out, and that's been a problem in my life, with pain, trauma, stress, etc. Aside from back in the day when I'd lift…
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:30 AM
1

Every word of that is true. Every word. Thank you for taking the time to respond to my post. I appreciate this very much.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:27 AM
1

You're not fucking kidding.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:26 AM
3

Thank you
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:26 AM
1

I told myself this month after month, year after year. She went with other guys and I'd tell myself she was damaged goods. The second she got engaged, and I saw the pictures -- he's got a million-dollar smile, she's lost weight and is clearly excited to start a family with this guy -- I suddenly got severely depressed. I know it's fucking ridiculous but it was visceral and uncontrollable. Seeing her holding her hand up with the ring on her finger, standing next to some schmuck (you described it …
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:26 AM
1

This actually made me laugh, and I fucking needed that. Thank you very much for reading my post and taking the time to respond.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:24 AM
1

Ha! Thank you for this.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:23 AM
1

I'm getting closer and closer to this. I've held off long enough. Appreciate you taking the time to write.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:23 AM
1

You really believe that's 100% guaranteed? She wasn't a princess by any means. That was one of the reasons I liked her. She was very down to earth. She had a weight problem for years; she wasn't obese, but she was meaty, so she never had the attitude the more attractive women have, you know? That, coupled with how long it took her to find a man to propose to her -- I just don't see her fucking it up like that (aside from the average female nonsense that you get from any woman, of course).
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:23 AM
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I'm no stallion in bed. It won't happen. But I hear what you're saying. If she contacts me in a couple of years (or before, or after), I won't be surprised. If she doesn't, I won't be surprised either. She rode the carousel for years, so she got it out of her system.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:21 AM
1

Thank you very much, man. Seriously.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:16 AM
1

I appreciate it, but I'm not sure you can. Mentally, I am plagued with depression and anxiety, low self esteem, and extreme insecurity. Physically, I have issues with my legs that keep me from being able to run. My cardio is absolute shit, no matter what I do. I stop smoking and do cardio and it makes no difference. I have stomach problems that send me to the bathroom multiple times a day (another reason I never committed to her). Back issues have started. It's always something.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:16 AM
1

I appreciate this more than you know, but two questions, and I'm very hopeful you'll respond, because you touched on one of them and I NEED to know how to do it. Thought blocking. How do I do this? I need to get her out of my fucking head already. It has been 6 months. Hobbies/passion. I have depression, and have had it for like 20 years. The hobbies I did have (watching films) are no longer interesting to me, and nothing really is. I am not saying this to sound dramatic, but it's a problem. I'd…
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:14 AM
1

I hear you, and I normally agree, but she married a religious guy and is now religious, and those communities definitely do have unhappy marriages and cheating, but at much lower numbers. I can see her sticking it out and being a good wife to him. That's why I feel as though I missed out.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:11 AM
2

Thank you so much, man. Really.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:10 AM
1

Appreciate it. Thank you again.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:10 AM
1

It wasn't the 10kg. It was my personal issues, mental and physical. I knew she'd end it herself if we ever moved in with each other, spent more than an hour or two together, etc. We spend a weekend a hotel once and she already made comments about personality flaws of mine.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:09 AM
2

Fuck, that was so refreshing to read. Thank you for writing it.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:08 AM
1

I hear you, and I agree, but she's 32 now, and she knows the wall is approaching. I don't think she'll be doing that. She settled for a guy with three kids, for God's sake. A woman either does that if he's rich or if she's worried the clock is ticking on her. She won't put herself in a potential position to get thrown out of the house to be older and without a man. Not in my opinion, at least.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:07 AM
1

Hey, I'm not pointing fingers.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 09:06 AM
1

Thank you again.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 05:51 AM
2

Finding them is hard, yes. I can't think of anything that I enjoy. That said, the junk food shit is done with. I'm disgusted with myself. Thank you for reading my post and taking the time to write.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 05:51 AM
1

Thank you. Yes, it's lifting time again. I've been lazy for years and I want big arms again.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 05:50 AM
1

I hear you. I appreciate you taking the time to read my post and put in your two cents. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 05:10 AM
1

Thank you. It's a bunch of stuff. She was very much into me, which always feels nice. We were young, in our 20s, with her a few years younger. We had nice times together and it hurts remembering them, knowing the youth is gone, and she is too, you know? I look at her husband now and I'm jealous of him. Can't help it.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 05:09 AM
1

Thank you for taking the time to write (and for having read my post). Can I just ask what you mean when you wrote "she'll get cut off completely"?
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 05:08 AM
1

I'm just grateful to you for having read my post and taken the time to write. I'm a fucking white belt in BJJ after 10 years. Shit cardio and issues with my legs. Alas . . .
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 05:08 AM
1

I have heard of it, but do not know anything about it. I'm on it now, though. Thank you very much for reading my post and taking the time to respond. Very appreciative.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 05:05 AM
2

You don't know how much I appreciate you having taken the time to read a stranger's post and give your two cents, which, I want you to know, was extremely helpful to me. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 05:04 AM
2

I really appreciate that. Thank you. Can I just ask: is the pain significantly lower now?
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 05:03 AM
2

It's sick that after all these years of TRP/MGTOW reading, and even slip ups straight from the horse's mouth, I still disregarded the red flags and am sitting here, like an idiot, trying to force a fantasy on myself. I totally hear you. Thank you for taking the time to read my post and give your two cents. I sincerely appreciate it. This was a shit day from a last few shit months.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:57 AM
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I know the adage: it was just your turn. I appreciate your advice. My problem there is that I have depression and low energy; nothing interests me, nothing is enjoyable, etc. It's a drag. There's a whole world out there and I don't have the drive to own it.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:56 AM
1

When my mother goes, it'll be the most devastating thing that could have ever happened to me. This, however, is the second-worse. I have never had something fuck me up for six straight months. That said, I appreciate your comment. Thank you for taking the time.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:55 AM
1

I was blown away by these responses, for sure. You're not kidding. Thank you again.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:54 AM
1

Thank you very much.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:54 AM
1

There's nothing whatsoever for you to apologize to me for. I sincerely appreciate that you took the time to read a stranger's post and help out. I was despondent. The feedback here is extremely redeeming. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:54 AM
1

:)
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:53 AM
2

You don't know how much I appreciate this point of view. You have no idea. Thank you for reading my post and taking the time to respond. Seriously.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:53 AM
1

What do you mean? I wasn't looking to argue with you, but sincerely was interested in what you had to say, knowing what you didn't know until I mentioned it.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:51 AM
1

I swear to you, this is the reason I didn't commit when I had the chance, but now that the chance is gone, I just feel regret. It's fucked up. That said, I have issues with depression. It has been this way for years. The reason I tell you this is because it gets in the way of finding that hobby, that skill. I have lost interest in everything. There's really nothing that I care for but my mother. I know that sounds sick, almost, but it's just what happens, I guess.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:51 AM
1

Well, first of all, thank you for taking the time to read my post and help me out. Second, how do you stop thinking about getting over them? She's in my thoughts when I don't want her to be, and when I try to push her out, it's ineffective. She seeps back in.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:47 AM
2

I respect my elders, and I listen to what they say. Always.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:45 AM
1

I might take you up on that. Thank you very much for taking the time and helping me with this comment. I do appreciate it. Sincerely.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:45 AM
1

No, that's actually EXACTLY what I wanted to hear. Thank you for reading my post and taking the time to respond. I really do appreciate this.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:45 AM
2

That's it, then. I'm done being a goody two shoes. I have nothing to lose. Thank you for reminding me.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:44 AM
5

Ha. I hear you. Thank you for taking the time to write this. I do appreciate it.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:44 AM
2

I hear you. Thank you for writing this.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:43 AM
1

I'll keep you posted if I do. In the meantime, I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to write this. I do.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:43 AM
2

I sincerely appreciate this. I do. Thank you for posting it.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:42 AM
9

Amen. Thank you for taking the time to write. I appreciate it.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 03:34 AM
2

As of four days ago. As you can see, continuing like this was untenable.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 03:34 AM
1

I appreciate this very much. I do. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 03:34 AM
2

Thank you.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 03:33 AM
2

Thank you.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 03:33 AM
2

Been meaning to look into meditation. Thank you for the tip. I'm onto Midnight Gospel now, thanks to you. Cheers.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 03:32 AM
2

I hear you, but no matter how many times you cheated, would you really want to experience finding out your woman went behind your back and got pounded out by some other dude? Cutting her off completely is the most logical thing to do, but I can't bring myself to.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 03:31 AM
2

Sound advice. Yup. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:36 AM
2

Thank you again so much for taking the time. Really appreciate it.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:35 AM
1

I appreciate this. The problem is that I have depression, and have had for a long time. I have lost interest in essentially everything. I know that sounds fatalistic, but it really is true.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:34 AM
1

This was extremely kind of you to take the time to write out. Wise words, too, for sure. Thank you very much.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:19 AM
2

I really appreciate this comment. Can I just ask one more question, please? When you were in the dumps, how did you find interest in anything? (You mentioned engineering, physics, etc). I am depressed to shit and the problem is that nothing interests me and I have no desire to do anything. Even the old hobbies I had, I don't care for anymore.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:18 AM
2

I've been monk these last few years. I think that's what's fucking me up so much over this.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:17 AM
2

This honestly doesn't bother me, if that's what you're trying to do. I wasn't noting this for attention; we don't know each other. I was simply describing my state. Thanks for taking the time to respond, regardless.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:15 AM
1

I appreciate this response. Just two points, please: 1) I did try to make contact with her, to test the waters (she's a nurse, and with COVID, I wanted to see if she was doing ok). The first time, she was warm and friendly and said it was good to hear from me, continuing the conversation whenever I tried to end it. The second time, she was cold and abrupt, and I got the message, so I'm done contacting her and am leaving her alone. 2) Hobbies. You mentioned hunting for you. The problem is that I …
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:14 AM
2

Thank you.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:12 AM
2

What if I told you he's a religious guy, and part of a religious community? Do you still think the same thing? I'd rather not go into detail, and I am certainly not saying cheating doesn't happen among the religious, but I find it happens way the hell less, so I believe there may be a chance he lucked out with her (in the sense that what he doesn't know doesn't hurt him, she rode the carousel for a few years and got it out of her system, and they can now live together and be happy together with …
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:11 AM
1

I am very grateful for your kind words. Sincerely. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:09 AM
1

There's no arguing this. My only issue is the memories I keep thinking about. She was fun to be with, and none of the others were. But you're right. What you wrote was right.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:09 AM
2

Yup. I quit smoking weed years ago but I think it's time to go back.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:08 AM
1

A very close friend that I confided in told me the same thing, that the cheating ruled her out. You are absolutely right. Your point about her being a friend is one that I haven't heard or realized, but is absolutely 100% correct and I appreciate you taking the time to note this. Thanks for your reply.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:08 AM
2

I'm sincerely considering this. I've held out long enough and I'm tired of not doing it for personal pride. Fuck pride.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:07 AM
1

No. Suicide over the loss of 10 years, the same of the missed opportunity, and the legitimate, sincere belief that I can't make it happen with anyone else. I didn't detail it, but I have severe health issues -- both of the body and of the mind -- that make relationships not possible. If I had one shot, it was her.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:07 AM
1

Thank you very much. Yes, I just started. I needed to do something or I was going to lose my mind.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:06 AM
2

I have heard this many times. I am not a dog person, and have never understood the connection people have with them. I am not knocking it--there is obviously something to it if so many people do it and speak highly of it--but I just don't get it.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:05 AM
1

I'm getting closer and closer to that point. I have held off for a long, long time, but I'm not sure what the point is anymore. Same thing with smoking marijuana again. I don't enjoy anything, so why not go back to it? It gave me joy.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:04 AM
1

I tried touching base with her to test the waters. The first time, she said it was good to hear from me and kept the conversation going whenever I tried to end it. The second time, she was cold and abrupt, making it clear that she didn't want me to contact her. Perhaps the husband saw the texts and grilled her.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:04 AM
2

I appreciate you saying this, but I believe my issues far outweigh those of others -- in number and in severity. Still, I appreciate you writing this.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:03 AM
1

Yes, I try to tell myself this, but it's hard to find interests when you're feeling like shit. I know what you're saying is correct, though. Thank you for taking the time to respond.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:02 AM
1

I appreciate this. This is the problem with me, though: I am a depressive, and I never have energy or interest in anything, really. This was the main reason I never pulled the trigger with her in the first place. No energy, lack of drive, lack of enjoyment.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:02 AM
1

I appreciate this very much. Thank you for taking the time to respond.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:01 AM
1

Perhaps I'm fatalistic, but I just don't see that happening. I'm also not a young man anymore, like I was when we first met, and throughout all the years we spent together, but I hear you 100%. I appreciate you taking the time to write this.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:00 AM
8

I understand. You're able to look at it objectively, and be detached from the emotional aspect of it, but you're right. Thank you for writing.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:00 AM
1

Ha. Thank you for responding.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 01:59 AM
8

I really appreciate you taking the time to write. Thank you
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 01:59 AM
1

Appreciate it. Hoping so. It's such a goddamned drag.
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 11:47 PM
1

Thank you. I am hopeful this is the case. It has been 6 months since the day I woke up and saw she got engaged. I've never had something fuck me up for six straight months like this.
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 11:39 PM
2

Did you ultimately get over it?
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 11:38 PM
2

I do suffer from oneitis, but why do you say I sound like a woman?
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 11:38 PM
5

Literally everything you just wrote is sound, logical, and refreshing. It's funny what you said about shrooms. I heard it can remove PTSD (a problem of mine), and I agree that if you have nothing to lose, you might as well. I've heard microdosing can change a man's life. Thank you for taking the time to read and comment.
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 11:38 PM
3

It seems like a profound quote but I'm lost with it.
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 11:36 PM
5

This, right here, is the forefront of what I needed to hear and be reminded of. There's no arguing what you just wrote. I just need to internalize it. I kept fighting it, but you -- as an objective commentator -- picked up on it immediately. I just wish I could internalize it again. There's a powerful element in wanting what you can't have.
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 11:36 PM
6

I needed this so much, you have no idea. Thank you. Very grateful.
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 11:34 PM
1

You're not kidding. Thank you very much for this.
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 11:33 PM
1

Thank you very much for this, man. Deleting it all out is the best option, I agree. It will be hard as hell, I agree, but I think you just said it exactly right.
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 11:32 PM
5

I don't argue this. But I don't know how to kill it off. It's not fucking 10 new girls, because the pain here is from the 10 years worth of memories; not the vagina being gone. I don't have a 10-year bond with any other woman. That's really the main source of the pain here. She was head over heels for me and we had so much time together.
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 10:18 PM
2

Very kind of you. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 10:17 PM
6

I appreciate you taking the time to respond. I would have agreed in her 20s, but she's afraid of the wall (she told me in not so many words). She's a 32 year old girl who settled down with a 35 year old man with three kids. This shows she's scared of the wall. Because she's scared of the wall, don't you think she'll keep herself in line? It's the one thing I can see keeping a woman in line and making her keep her tendencies to herself.
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 10:16 PM
3

Really appreciate you taking the time to read and to give the advice. Thank you, man.
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 10:14 PM
3

Thank you for taking the time to respond, sir.
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 10:14 PM
5

I know, I know. But I have 10 years invested with her. I never dated a woman for more than 2-3 dates aside from her, so there's this bond. I think back to our times together and it fucking sucks. I'm not discounting what you said, for sure, but the above really burns me.
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 10:14 PM
3

Thank you for responding, man. Seriously.
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 10:13 PM
1

This is exactly the boot in the ass response I needed. I actually appreciate this. Thank you
/r/askTRP21/01/20 04:45 PM
1

Thank you!
/r/askTRP21/01/20 03:12 PM
1

Thank you.
/r/askTRP21/01/20 03:12 PM
0

I appreciate the quick response, but work for what? Isn't TRP and MGTOW all of the opinion that AWALT is always true, and thus there are no unicorns?
/r/askTRP21/01/20 05:07 AM
2

I wish it was as simple as being able to choose your boss. But aside from the work thing, I'm talking about the life thing. I genuinely have come to understand that western women have nothing to offer but sex, while we do the heavy lifting in every single area. They have absolutely nothing to offer otherwise. It's incredible how being at such a deficit, they can still skate by, just on their looks and their sex. It's just incredible.
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