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If a girl tells you to back off, back off. Pushing her limits is a surefire way to torpedo an interaction. I think you handled that situation just fine. That in mind, if she wasn't comfortable with you touching her back, she probably wouldn't have been comfortable with a kiss (though this might not be the case, the things that make someone uncomfortable can be somewhat random). Overall, it sounds like you did just fine. My advice to you is don't overthink things. There's no right or wrong answer…
/r/seduction04/10/21 12:28 PM
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"I like women. I don't understand them, but I like them." -Sean Connery
/r/seduction04/10/21 09:10 AM
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All good, I understood where you were coming from. But yeah, I think negs are probably not something most people really need to focus on, especially beginners. If you really want to learn everything about game then I think negs can be useful in certain cases (mainly the one I mentioned, for girls who shit test a lot) but probably 99% of people on this sub shouldn't focus on them.
/r/seduction13/08/20 07:18 PM
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We all start somewhere, this doesn't sound like a fail to me at all. You put yourself out there, got a little more comfortable with the process, and learned something to work on for next time. Sounds like success to me! Just keep at it
/r/seduction12/08/20 10:19 PM
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Confidence without arrogance. If you go up to a girl and sheepishly ask if she'd ever consider going out with you, it comes off as desperate which will make it creepy. On the other hand, if you approach her with strong, self-assured posture and body language but you walk up and tell her what hot shit you are and that she would be stupid not to go out with you, it comes off as presumptive which can also be creepy (though it's worth noting if you're trying to be super direct you should actually te…
/r/seduction12/08/20 10:13 PM
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Personal taste more than anything. I like to take an "active listener" role most of the time. To me, it's a lot easier to steer a conversation in a certain direction if you aren't trying to simultaneously come up with interesting things to say. That said, it can be tricky because there's a fine line between being an active listener and being a dead fish. If she's the only one contributing to the convo, she's gonna get bored. You also want to avoid the common mistake of asking question after ques…
/r/seduction12/08/20 09:32 PM
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Your example about their style isn't really a neg, as you touch on toward the end it's actually disqualification. Which I think saying is a type of neg is really doing it a major disservice. Disqualification is a really great tool that can be used by anyone at basically any level. There's an inherent catch 22 with game: you're trying to build attraction with a girl, but without it seeming like you are actually trying. Disqualification is great for this, after you build a little attraction you to…
/r/seduction12/08/20 09:07 PM
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My opinion is that, yes those books present contradictory ideas about seduction, but that doesn't necessarily mean one is right and one's wrong. Everyone is different and will respond better to certain things, so really it boils down to what works for you. As a beginner, I think your best bet is to start off trying real world approaches. You can learn every theory and method out there, but without the actual experience it'll be nearly impossible to have any real valid thoughts on this. It's a bi…
/r/seduction06/08/20 01:24 AM
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As long as lingering here doesn't come at the cost of going out and having real interactions, I totally agree. But I think it's important to acknowledge that the more you obsess over game and every little detail, the less likely you are to really succeed with it. Spend a little time here, get a hold on the basics, but then go out and actually use it. If you keep coming back here while actually using game, awesome. But the important part is what you're doing outside of here.
/r/seduction09/05/20 05:16 AM
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Sounds like how I used to be. I didn't mean to do it, but if I liked a girl I would hang around her all the time but never make a move. But I also had a lot of female friends my entire life. Just by luck of the draw, on the block where I grew up there weren't any families with boys (except for mine obviously). As a result, I think I was just sort of used to platonic relationships with girls, and when it came to girls I was actually attracted to I didn't know how else to act. Luckily I've gotten …
/r/seduction14/03/20 03:01 AM
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Your issue is tinder. In fact, you summed up one of OLD's biggest problems without even realizing it: it's instant gratification, and lasting disappointment. It's so easy to match with people and feel like there's something there, that's the instant gratification. But taking a connection from tinder, even one that feels really solid, and turning it into an actual encounter is quite a bit more rare. Why? Well, because of the same instant gratification as before. It's easy enough to pile up likes …
/r/seduction21/02/20 07:06 AM
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Well done. Sometimes that's all people need, just a little push.
/r/seduction26/09/19 06:03 PM
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It happens. I met a girl one night at a bar, we hit it off completely. Similar interests, we could just talk without weird pauses, it went great. I got her number rather than trying to get her in bed that night, and texted with her a bit that night after leaving the bar. Texted her the next day, no response. Waited a few days, sent another text, no response again. Sent a final text, she finally responded saying she was just drunk that night and doesn't remember me. She was definitely not that dr…
/r/seduction06/09/19 07:01 PM
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Yes and no. I started learning game after my last breakup and haven't been in a LTR since. But, I have had a few girls I've dated semi-regularly, and I'm fairly certain about a few key things. First, pretty much all of "inner game" still applies. Still keep working on yourself, still keep trying to improve yourself, and still focus on making yourself the best you that you can. Second, maintain but modify the abundance mindset. You don't want to be a cheater, I hope, so you don't necessarily want…
/r/seduction04/09/19 04:20 PM
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Treating her like a customer instead of the food-- pure genius my dude. I will have to remember that. That seriously strikes to the core of game, explained in a simple, easy to understand way.
/r/seduction02/09/19 05:36 AM
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The way I look at rejection is like this: think of your life as a line moving across a piece of paper. When you ask a girl out, that point on the line has 3 branches off it: she says yes and that changes your life, she says no and that changes your life, or it doesn't matter what she says you keep on living the same life either way. Don't allow other people's decisions to run your life. So if a girl rejects you, you should move on with your life totally unaffected. If you want to keep pursuing h…
/r/seduction23/08/19 10:13 PM
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Most likely she's bored with her relationship and she sees you as an attractive, exciting alternative. Now, the important question is, is she actually unhappy in her relationship and looking to get out of it? Or, is she just looking for some fun and excitement that she's currently not getting in her relationship but has no plans to end said relationship? This is really difficult to gauge, and it's obviously very sensitive territory, so you want to be cautious about probing her to find out. One s…
/r/seduction30/06/19 06:07 PM
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You mean other than whipping your dick out? It sounds like your escalation is lacking. Make it your goal to initiate physical contact as early on as possible, and to continue increasing the level of contact throughout the interaction. You can escalate not only by going from a more casual to a more intimate spot (ie, touching her hand to touching her thigh) but also by the way you touch her, how long you hold your touch, the frequency of touching, etc. I say work on that and let us know how it go…
/r/seduction30/06/19 12:02 AM
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Always assume a girl is interested. If she isn't, as long as you don't act like a jerk it's not really a big deal. So what if you get turned down, as least you tried. But if she is, then boom, you get what you want. On the flipside, if you assume she isn't interested and she is, you miss out on that opportunity forever. So really, you have nothing to lose. Just make a move and see what happens.
/r/seduction29/06/19 11:51 PM
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It's a common mistake, but you really shouldn't stress over it. You have firsthand experience of failing a shit test. That's a good thing because you now know it's not the end of the world. You didn't die, end up in the ER, or get publicly humiliated. She didn't call you a loser, reject you flat out, or even respond all that negatively. She just moved on. Which is how it goes 99.9% of the time. For what it's worth, here's some other common shit tests and some agree and amplify comebacks: Her: Do…
/r/seduction29/06/19 11:43 PM
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I think this is about guys adding gym/shirtless pics and seeing improved results. You of course can't compare one guys' results to another because of what you mention, but there's many examples of guys adding these pics and improving results. The rest of your comment I 100% agree with though.
/r/seduction29/06/19 10:11 PM
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That is a fucking fantastic opener, I'm definitely mentally saving that one for newbies on here asking for good examples.
/r/seduction29/06/19 10:00 PM
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Virtue signaling. Never underestimate a woman's fear of being slut shamed, it is far more powerful than most of us with dicks are aware.
/r/seduction29/06/19 09:54 PM
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Rather than nice, I prefer to give the advice of being kind just because the two words have different connotations. We hear we need to be nice to our enemies, play nice after a fight, etc. So basically put on a happy face and act like a good human or get punished. But to be kind is to be giving and gracious while expecting nothing in return. You should be kind to women, to everyone really, which means doing things for them without the expectation that they will like you, have sex with you, etc. …
/r/seduction29/06/19 09:46 PM
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Question 1. This is a shit test. I think you need a little background about them, but don't want to dive into them too deep so here's a quick overview of shit tests: Pretty much any time a girl asks you something or says something that you don't really know how to respond to, it's probably a shit test. With a shit test, there are only 2 ways to respond: ignore it or mock it. Ignoring it means giving as little response as possible or redirecting the conversation. Using your example "we are friend…
/r/seduction29/06/19 09:21 PM
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I've thought about that, but how does it make money? There's a reason that dating apps are the way they are, and it's because it's profitable.
/r/seduction27/06/19 05:43 PM
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This is exactly why Tinder and most dating apps are garbage. They have intentionally set it up so that guys have to spend a ton of time on the app swiping, and girls have to spend a ton of time on the app trying to go through all their likes/matches. The truth is, they have no interest in actually matching you with compatible people, their only concern is getting you to spend more time and/or money on the app.
/r/seduction27/06/19 03:35 PM
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You want to use a compliment that's actually genuine, no strings attached. Girls are used to being told they're pretty, sexy, etc. Instead focus more on her actions. "You seem really confident" is a good one. Pretty much any kind of push-pull will work, and you should be able to push-pull easily if you want to get good at game. To continue with our previous example, you could say "you seem really confident" and follow that up with "maybe a little too confident" or "but that's not really my type"…
/r/seduction25/06/19 03:12 PM
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Yeah I feel you. Unfortunately attraction isn't black and white. If it was so simple, there wouldn't be books, videos, and forums out there dedicated to its study. Just keep trying new things, keep what works and ditch what doesn't.
/r/seduction22/06/19 08:25 PM
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There's such a thing as too much as well. Girls don't actually want a bad boy, they just don't want a white knight nice guy. You might actually be too far to the other end of the spectrum, try dialing it back and actually being nicer.
/r/seduction22/06/19 08:20 PM
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Personas are a terrible idea unless you're a really good actor. It will feel fake and it will push people away. So right from the start, don't be anything you're not because it won't work. The reason girls are attracted to "bad boys" stems from a few things: -Girls are so used to guys coming up and flooding them with compliments and niceness and basically being a suck up. A guy who comes up to them and playfully teases them and jokes around with them is a breath of fresh air. Other guys will thi…
/r/seduction22/06/19 08:13 PM
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Playful teasing, sexual misinterpretation, push/pull, and physical escalation are the best ways to create sexual tension. I ordered those from beginner (easiest, most bang for your buck) to advanced (takes time to master, but once mastered are valuable) based on my experiences. If you have more specific questions let me know.
/r/seduction22/06/19 07:58 PM
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Start off soft, slow, and gentle. It's easy to end up being too aggressive because you're trying to be "passionate" and get a little too frisky. Other than that, it's just instincts man. Let your body do what it does, don't over think it.
/r/seduction20/06/19 01:28 PM
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Totally agree. You want to be as straightforward as possible without being socially miscalibrated.
/r/seduction18/06/19 11:19 PM
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Depends how long it was... If it was just a few hours, she was probably busy. If you texted her last week and she's just now responding, her other options prob fell through and she's now seeing what you can offer. Either way, she's at least somewhat interested.
/r/seduction18/06/19 10:09 PM
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See this is the kind of "direct" that works. I'm usually not a fan of promoting the direct method because most newcomers here act like autists and think direct means walking up to a girl and asking if he can smell her vagina. You want to be direct, but not too direct. It's a nuance that you nailed here. Props.
/r/seduction18/06/19 09:59 PM
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It's about attitude/belief AND talent. The best results occur when you identify your natural skills and also have the right attitude about them. In other words, you can't accomplish anything you put your mind to, but there's definitely things you can. Yeah, it doesn't sound as nice and it isn't quite as cut and dry, but it's more realistic.
/r/seduction18/06/19 09:54 PM
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I can definitely relate. Personally, I've noticed I'll dive into things and focus on them with all my being, and when I do that I wouldn't say I'm necessarily happy but I'm at least motivated. But then when I'm done I'm just back to the existential void. Like... What do I do now? I think sometimes it's necessary to just take things one day at a time. Don't worry so much about where you'll be in a year or 5 years or 20 years. Just focus on what gets you through today. Your life doesn't need some …
/r/seduction18/06/19 07:17 PM
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Instead of approaching a girl with a results mindset, have the mindset that you're just sharing value. It's an important realization that game gives you value and that when you approach as high value women will actually respond positively. They want for high value guys to approach them (usually). Don't make it about "I need to get her number" or "I need to take her home" but instead "I am high value and have a lot to offer this girl" and you will take a major step toward improving your interacti…
/r/seduction17/06/19 06:34 PM
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Glad to help man. It sounds like you know where you're at, you just had a momentary lapse. Happens to all of us. I know when I first started with game I talked with this one girl who was so cute and who I had an awesome vibe with. Got her number because frankly I'm not that into one night stands, texted her the following day something like "hey this is wowza" and didn't get a response. I texted her again a few days later and she responded. Basically, she was a student just home for break. I kick…
/r/seduction10/06/19 08:39 PM
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Your only fuck up is the oneitis you're going through now. People are strange animals and there could be a million reasons she hasn't responded yet. Only a fraction of those have anything to do with you. You can send another text, keep it light and casual like "is this name, we met at place and hit it off?" or something. If she doesn't answer, it doesn't mean you did anything wrong, just means it's time to move on. (Edit): And I'd wait until tomorrow to text her again. Give her a chance to respo…
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:58 PM
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Fight the urge unless you have something worthwhile to send her. And you'll know worthwhile when you see it because you'll have no hesitation about sending it. If you're unsure, don't send it. Other than that, don't say anything until the day of and just send her a quick text like "still on for tonight?" or something. And of course, if she texts first it's fine to respond, but I'd keep even that to a minimum. After all, you're supposed to be enjoying your vacation, not thinking about her.
/r/seduction07/06/19 03:50 AM
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I'm not a fan of pick up lines. Sets a tone from the start that you're trying to pick her up. I prefer trying to start conversations as organically as possible. Admittedly, I'm a bit of an introvert and if it were up to me, I'd never approach anyone. So I have to practice. Strike up conversation with random people, not just hot girls, every day. You'll be amazed at how quickly you learn how to create interesting conversations out of nothing. Then, when you do see a girl you want to talk to, you'…
/r/seduction07/06/19 03:46 AM
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Dating apps are stacked against their users, and it's pretty obvious why when you think about it. Back in the old days of Tinder, it worked perfectly because the app was for hook ups. So you'd find matches, fuck em, and continue swiping. But Tinder couldn't advertise as being for hook ups or 90% of girls would stop using it because girls will never admit to wanting a hook up, even when it is what they actually want. So, it slowly became a legit "dating" app. Suddenly, there's a stark conflict of…
/r/seduction07/06/19 03:17 AM
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You're not. It's natural to feel bitter and spiteful when you fail. That's the stick that keeps humanity moving forward. If failing felt good we'd have gone extinct a long time ago. Just remind yourself there's healthy ways to deal with those emotions and there's unhealthy ways, and try to stick to the healthy ways. Our brains are little more than bags of overclocked lukewarm goo trying to figure out an immensely complicated world. Cut your bag of goo some slack. It's doing remarkably well, all …
/r/seduction07/06/19 02:44 AM
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Genuine women will still shit test you. You can be wealthy, attractive, and smart, and also have a basement filled with disemboweled squirrels you do puppet shows with. She needs to determine your social and emotional calibration. For women, it can literally be life and death. You know that you're a good guy with no plans to decapitate her, but she doesn't know that. So be a trooper, play along, and you'll be fine and so will she.
/r/seduction07/06/19 02:34 AM
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Tell a story. Doesn't matter what it's about, just make it a story you connect with for one reason or another. If you find the story really funny, inspirational, etc other people will feel the energy you put into it. Make random observations about the girl. They don't have to be compliments, or negs, or even true for that matter. Tell her that she's funny, or shy, that you bet she has crazy stories, she reminds you of your ninth grade math teacher, whatever. You want to keep it relevant so you d…
/r/seduction07/06/19 02:06 AM
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What should you do with this information? Probably fuck some bitches would be my suggestion. What else are you gonna use it for?
/r/seduction07/06/19 01:40 AM
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More likely she is flirty with many guys to use them to do things for her when she pleases. She may not have been flirting with him for months for this ride specifically, but she knew she could get him to do something for her eventually. I had an ex like this. Super super toxic to be around. Girls like this will fuck with your head like nothing else can.
/r/seduction07/06/19 01:28 AM
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I'd say there's a few possibilities, 1) He's just shy and it made him uncomfortable or caught him off guard. He is still attracted but doesn't know how to respond. 2) Despite the fact that you think you were being direct, he either didn't get it or assumed you were joking. 3) He just wasn't that attracted to you to begin with but feels a platonic connection. IE, friendzone. 4) He was attracted to you, but by being too direct you diminished the attraction that was there and now he's continuing th…
/r/seduction07/06/19 01:13 AM
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There's two keys to escalation: 1) Frame. You have to constantly keep up the frame--if you're not familiar, basically the context of the interaction-- as sexual man-to-woman. There's endless strategies to advise you on how to do this if you're unsure. And 2) Escalating early and often. Think of it like a savings account. The earlier you start and the more deposits you make, the more you allow interest to build and build. Make it your goal to initiate physical touch as soon as you can, and then c…
/r/seduction06/06/19 10:56 PM
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Is it technically good game to initiate with a compliment? No, that's supplication, and there's better things to say. But what's more important than good game is making approaches. You can have the best game in the world but if you never make approaches it doesn't matter. Let the guy make some approaches, get over some of that approach anxiety, and then focus on improving his technique.
/r/seduction06/06/19 02:33 PM
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Seems too serious of a tone for me. Depends on the date I guess, but I would opt for something more casual. Or at least phrasing it that way. More like "what would you change about the world if you could" or something.
/r/seduction05/06/19 10:51 PM
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Strongly second this. Asking questions can make it feel too formal, like a job interview. Instead, make comments or assumptions and let her react.
/r/seduction05/06/19 04:49 PM
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You're not understanding what I'm saying. What I'm saying is just dive into spontaneous conversation. You most certainly can, and should, show intent from the beginning still. Don't ever tell a girl she "seems interesting" that's so generic and corny. When you use openers and lines like that, her first thought is "what does he actually want" whereas when you just start having a conversation, she's not being forced to question your intentions. You're just a friendly guy for all she cares.
/r/seduction03/06/19 01:27 PM
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A lifetime, really. This is a combination of things I learned through life and game. I have always had lots of female friends which gives you a lot of insight into what girls are thinking. And girls (and guys too) think and act very differently when they're part of a group.
/r/seduction02/06/19 09:13 PM
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Well godspeed my friend. I wouldn't personally do it, but to each their own. Hope it works for ya
/r/seduction02/06/19 08:07 PM
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No. You showed a lack of interest in her, so she moved on. Girls don't chase, generally speaking, as it makes them feel slutty. Unless you're super high value and she's got a lot of spunk, it's damn near impossible to make a girl actually expend much effort chasing you. It's like trying to fish with your bait above the water. You're never going to catch anything if the fish can't reach your bait. And, you don't need to "salvage" anything. You wasted a conversation so now you'll have to initiate …
/r/seduction02/06/19 07:48 PM
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This sounds like a case of oneitis. You're plotting about how to approach a particular girl? Oh buddy, unless you're in a romantic comedy the odds this is going to go well for you are not great. My advice? Forget Georgia and go fuck a random girl from a bar, or better yet 6 random girls.
/r/seduction02/06/19 07:34 PM
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Terrible advice by them. There's a time and place for direct approaches, and this was neither the time nor place. To be honest, being an average looking guy in a club full of hot girls sounds like shooting fish in a barrel... but it's really not. When girls are grouped together, they turn into judgmental bitches most of the time. No girl wants to be the "slut" that gets picked up by a guy, especially not by a low-value guy. The key to turning groups of girls to your favor is actually to be super…
/r/seduction02/06/19 07:31 PM
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Think of it like a car. You can open the door. You can get in. You can sit down, and buckle up. But if you don't turn the key and start the ignition, you'll go nowhere. The same goes for conversation with a girl. You can approach her, and say hi. But if you expect her to all of a sudden take off into deep conversation with you, you're sadly mistaken. You have to turn the key and start the engine. This means you have to find some way to get her interested and hooked into the conversation. Ideally…
/r/seduction02/06/19 07:13 PM
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I read your comments below about your approach methods (using "lovely" is solid, I might have to use that) and I for sure think you should start focusing more on your frame and going for a high value approach. Now that you're over that approach anxiety, you want to move away from "openers" into just organic conversations right off the approach. It's hard to do, but openers are a crutch that throttle your results big time. When you approach a friend you know, do you have to "open" the conversatio…
/r/seduction02/06/19 06:56 PM
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Read your updates and I just wanna add that we've all been there. Not gonna lie, this is the kind of shit you're gonna think about randomly at 11pm and cringe about. Personally, I've got about 4 or 5 girls that I shit the bed on in various ways before I learned about game. In some ways I'm almost glad I failed because it inspired me to be that much better. Use this as an opportunity and not a failure and you will be better for it, and it sounds like that's exactly your approach.
/r/seduction23/05/19 01:24 PM
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That's the part of game that I think gets overlooked quite a bit. How to transition into a relationship. It's an art in and of itself. You want to keep your game strong in the beginning while the relationship is still fragile, but ultimately if you have to keep up game forever the relationship just wasn't meant to be, in my opinion.
/r/seduction22/05/19 07:58 PM
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He did some things really well, but also made some crucial mistakes I think ultimately kill it. What I think he did right: fun and creative date that demonstrates high value, got her to his place for a "surprise" evening, and created an EPIC narrative by giving her an experience she can tell people about (huge social status points). What I think he did wrong: seemed ashamed of his hobby, over-committed too soon with the tokens, and waited too long to make it happen. My takeaway: use your hobbies…
/r/seduction10/05/19 08:34 PM
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Become a sociopath. Seriously though, I doubt you'll be able to not feel that way about her now that you already do. Your options are pretty much to cut it off completely with her, to dial things back with her and try to focus on other parts of your life, or to embrace what you have even though it may not be everything you want. The last option is the way to go if you can come to terms with the way things are. But if you can't accept the way things are now and just enjoy what you have, then prob…
/r/seduction09/05/19 08:05 PM
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I would replace awkwardness x forwardness with discomfort, but other than that I agree with this formula. I've heard girls call guys creeps even if they were attractive and not awkward or forward because they told them they have a boyfriend and the guy kept going.
/r/seduction26/04/19 09:48 PM
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I will tell you one of the best pieces of advice I have come across on here: approach every interaction as a way to add value to someone's day. If you make the approach all about "I need to ask this girl out" you'll feel nervous about her rejecting you. Instead, focus on just being a fun, engaging person to interact with, and making her day better for having talked to you. Tell her a good joke, story, etc or share with her some interesting thing you know. One thing to avoid is just complimenting…
/r/seduction12/04/19 08:58 PM
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This is an extremely relatable way of explaining something that I think is key to game. All seduction really comes down to is finding your value, building it up and refining it, and learning how to present it to the opposite sex in the best way. That last part is the one most guys struggle with, and I think this mindset goes a long way in helping with that. This post should be the first thing anyone new to game should read. Honestly, this is something I think everyone should read.
/r/seduction18/03/19 08:35 PM
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Go on Youtube and start watching PUA videos. Try to explore different people, don't just watch video after video from the same person. Read PUA books if that's more your thing. If you're in the middle of a video or a book and it just isn't resonating with you, skip it and move on. And, as I mentioned previously, actually go out and use it. Make it a point to spend at least as much time in field as you spend reading/learning.
/r/seduction13/03/19 01:21 AM
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My advice: don't get too caught up reading. You will improve your game a little bit by reading, and a lot by going out and doing. So spend a little time reading up on technique, but make sure you're actually going out and using it.
/r/seduction13/03/19 01:15 AM
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How to make her miss you? EASY. Demonstrate that you're doing well without her. Buy a new car. Get in better shape. Do that thing you've always talked about doing. Doesn't have to be about money or looks. The challenging part is getting her to see it without being obvious.... so the better method is just to do those things because you want to and to not give a fuck about her.
/r/seduction13/03/19 01:10 AM
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I had a sorta similar but also kinda opposite situation when I was in high school. There was this girl Kate I thought was cute, and being the high school moron I was, I just showered her with kindness. Always held the door for her, helped her with hw, etc. Her best friend Michelle was also pretty cute, and after she noticed me always being so nice to Kate, she started hitting on me. Ever the opportunist, I shifted my attention from Kate to Michelle, which of course made Kate jealous and soon bot…
/r/seduction12/03/19 06:50 PM
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"Have you tried daygame at College before?" Yes "Has it worked" Yes "My goal is to approach at least 5 girls this week" You should approach more than 5 girls. I was pretty good at hockey growing up, and on one of the club teams I played for I had this coach who always said '10,000 hours'. That was referring to the number of hours (he thought) it took of practice to make it to the NHL. So figure an hour of practice a day, starting at age 3 up to 18 for the draft (15 years time), so 1 hour * 365 d…
/r/seduction08/03/19 05:52 AM
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Whatever works for you, what's important is that you're making approaches. It sounds to me like you're really over thinking it. Just get out there and talk to people whenever the opportunity comes up. Don't try to strategize too much, you're just going to get in your own head.
/r/seduction07/03/19 01:12 AM
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Going solo is tough. The first few times you go, it's probably going to feel awkward. Just have a few drinks, relax, and try to strike up conversation with anyone you can. Don't set expectations for yourself other than to make as many approaches as you can. The more you go, the easier it gets so don't be discouraged if your first attempt doesn't go well. Once you're comfortable hitting the club alone, report back here with your progress and you'll get more feedback and tips. Good luck and feel f…
/r/seduction04/03/19 03:51 PM
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Nowhere specific. You can walk around campus, go to coffee shops, stores, the library, doesn't really matter. Attractive girls can be anywhere during day game, that's the beauty of it. If you have errands to run, get em done while you day game. Two birds one stone.
/r/seduction04/03/19 03:45 PM
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Strongly second doing this. You are a man and you have sexual needs. You need to remind her that if you don't get it from her you can get it elsewhere.
/r/seduction04/03/19 12:19 AM
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For a relationship? Really depends. If you try too soon you'll end up being her rebound. After a breakup, people really won't be fully over their ex. Especially if she was dumped, she's probably going to be looking for validation and company to avoid feeling alone... basically fill in the feelings she lost when she got dumped. It makes it more likely she will jump into a relationship with you, but rebounds also don't last most of the time. I'd say as a general rule of thumb, people need at least…
/r/seduction04/03/19 12:07 AM
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Day game at colleges is solid, joining clubs and expanding social circle is solid, and going to bars/clubs can be solid but is tricky to pull off solo so I'd recommend using the clubs to make friends to go to said bars/clubs with. What's your goal? Hookups, short term dating, relationship, etc? Doing the bar scene solo might be just fine if you're just looking for hookups. Day game will definitely be better for the latter two. But either can be done with either method.
/r/seduction04/03/19 12:02 AM
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That's a good thing. Being able to drive a conversation into emotional territory is actually something a lot of guys struggle with and you do it naturally. The main thing that I would stress to you is that there is really not as much on the line as you think. If the date doesn't go well, nothing bad will happen. Don't worry about it so much. Get excited to go and have fun and have a good time! Be relaxed and don't have expectations for yourself. Don't tell yourself "I need to do this and that an…
/r/seduction03/03/19 11:49 PM
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I'm not gonna lie I zoned out somewhere after the beginning of this post. Way too much useless information. If you want to be a pro at conversation there's only 1 thing you need to do: become an expert at improvising. There's lots of improv comedy practices on the internet, especially Youtube, that you can do to get better at it. Anyone can learn how to have interesting, witty remarks to just about anything, it just takes a little effort. You can't fake body language, emotion, etc and if you try…
/r/seduction01/03/19 02:24 AM
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I have no idea who that is, I'll have to take your word for it. Manson I am somewhat familiar with, though I think he is way over-hyped. "If she's into you, then it doesn't matter if you compliment her or not. And if she's NOT into you, then whether you compliment her or not is just as irrelevant" Totally disagree. I've had well placed compliments save interactions. One example in particular to using compliments is they can totally alter the mood of an interaction. If a girl is acting like a stu…
/r/seduction01/03/19 02:05 AM
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I think that's a bit of a cop out. If you're a high value guy you can say anything... As long as it's high value. My point is in discussing what some of those high value things are, and a lot of guys are afraid to compliment as they think it's low value when it actually works quite well.
/r/seduction28/02/19 02:39 PM
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"most of guys try to compliment to get something in exchange" Very well put. A compliment shouldn't seem like it has any other intentions behind it.
/r/seduction28/02/19 02:36 PM
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To be honest, avoiding conflicts is one of the main reasons I usually don't do things like this. I tend to go to the same bars, hang out with similar groups of people, etc. Kind of a "don't shit where you eat" mindset. I remember back when I was like 17 or so I worked in a big restaurant and there was this one hostess who was fine af. Cute face, great body. Her boyfriend was in the navy and deployed to Afghanistan (this was 7-8 years ago) and she just fucked every dude who gave her the time of d…
/r/seduction26/02/19 02:18 PM
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Very true. I really didn't force shit, either. She pretty much just hopped on board with me and that was that. Thanks for your input.
/r/seduction26/02/19 02:12 PM
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Honestly I don't really regret it. It was fun, it was an easy pickup, and I had a good time with her. So I guess it is what it is. Maybe it's like cake. Every now and then, not so bad. Every day, you're gonna start to have some issues. Moderation and all that shit. I will say, probably what did me in was how much focus I've been putting on game recently. It was kinda nice to be reminded of how I used to have encounters... organically. When a girl was just interested in me and I was interested in…
/r/seduction26/02/19 05:41 AM
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Well the downvote fairies are already out. Yeah shit happens. I don't know that it justifies being the other guy, but I also don't know that it's really so awful to just happen to be the guy she cheats with. Like I said, I don't really know how to feel about it. Obviously you went through some pretty awful shit. Mine was pretty tame. I was like 18 or 19 and the girl I had been dating for like 5 months I decided to move in with (genius fucking 18 year old logic) was boning some dude in our apartm…
/r/seduction26/02/19 05:23 AM
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I hope you don't get downvoted. That's what I keep bouncing back and forth between. Like, if it wasn't me she was on, it probably would've been another guy. Sometimes that's just how it is. We had a good time, the sex was good, all in all I really can't complain. I mean, I kinda feel for her boyfriend, but also to some extent I don't. He's probably banging other broads if I know anything about where I graduated from. So I don't know. I don't feel great about it, but I also don't feel terrible ab…
/r/seduction26/02/19 05:10 AM
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Totally agree. I've heard someone say about game they actually like failure because each time they fail they learn another thing that makes them better. Idk why you or anyone except myself is here, but personally I'm learning seduction because it's another tool I can use. Learning therefore trumps successes. I say if you're seing consistent success it means you aren't challenging yourself enough.
/r/seduction25/02/19 06:54 PM
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He was yes. I'm not 100% sure what happened but I believe it was just over a difference in opinion about pickup. From what I've heard, all members of RSD are sort of required to do things in a certain manner and Todd disagreed with some of these things so he went off on his own. He's done some videos with Max since and it seems like there's not any hard feelings about it as far as I know.
/r/seduction24/02/19 11:50 PM
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I think Max is the best overall at pickup, but Todd is without a doubt the best teacher. He's probably the smartest out of the crew, and I think he's much better at explaining the concepts used in game where like Max will just sort of do it and you try to pick up on what he's doing. Definitely self improvement is a big part of game for sure. Game is all about trying to present high value, so if you can actually increase your value it's gonna help.
/r/seduction24/02/19 09:02 PM
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Yes... If he threatens you then to amplify would be to threaten him back. This would have the effect of calling a bluff. If he's not bluffing... Well, no bueno for you. But what I said is agree and amplify which is what that is.
/r/seduction24/02/19 07:27 PM
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There isn't one. Up to your own personal standards. To me, I go off a vibe I get from a girl. I say this as a guy who has been cheated on but never done any cheating. Just like how women will almost never approach, women almost never initiate a breakup. Even if she's unhappy, a lot of women simply don't want to, or can't, initiate the breakup with their boyfriend. I'm not sure I'd do a one night fling with a girl in a relationship just because I've been the guy on the receiving end of that... bu…
/r/seduction24/02/19 02:41 AM
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Are you familiar with shit tests in general? They're a pretty big deal in game because women give them to men. If you've never heard of them, look into them. Lots of good content out there about them and how to deal with them that'll help you in approach. Less popular is the ways men give shit tests. Frankly, male shit tests to females usually resemble teasing, so we just call it teasing. And male to male shit tests aren't all that relevant most of the time. Unless you're trying to literally pic…
/r/seduction24/02/19 02:32 AM
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RSD is good. A bunch of very successful guys. If you haven't checked out Todd's new stuff, do so now. Or actually go out and game tonight, it's Saturday, check it out tomorrow. He's taken RSD to a whole new level. Definitely one of the smartest if not the smartest guy from RSD and he is putting out his own content now. The most important advice though is don't be afraid to go out and approach. I know I am so guilty of this. Frankly I'm so busy I don't always have time to go out so I tend to spen…
/r/seduction24/02/19 02:25 AM
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I'll check it out, but my knee jerk reaction advice is don't read too much into drama.... while you may think it's more real than the bachelor, I can still guarantee they cut out a lot of the real life for the dramatic flair. It's dangerous to take advice from drama for that reason. You won't get laid for the drama, you'll get laid for the real life.
/r/seduction24/02/19 01:54 AM
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Not really. I do Brazilian jiu jitsu and that's one of the first assessments I make whenever there's a possible confrontation. I mean, I could also take most people roughly my size and/or bigger, but that's because most people don't know how to fight. But size differential makes a huge difference in ability to grapple, whether they can hit you in a hold, etc. I'd imagine Colombia is a lot scrappier though... and a lot more people there know how to fight than here in the US. So it may be differen…
/r/seduction24/02/19 01:51 AM
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That's a male shit test. Male shit tests are usually violent or sexual. I'm gonna beat you up/kill you/fuck your mom or sister/etc. They work similarly to female shit tests, but to be totally honest I'm not gonna risk getting a Colombian necktie over a girl so I'd back off. But I've never been to Colombia, so idk. You're on your own with that one.
/r/seduction24/02/19 01:48 AM
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^Good advice What I would add is that the difference between sexual interest and tension is that interest is you're clearly into her while tension is that sex might not happen. So many guys shy away from tension because why on earth would I want to show her I'm not interested? Forget that idea. Tension is good. Showing her you don't need to have sex with her, you have options, you're not chomping at the bit to get into bed will make her so much more attracted to you. When things are going well, …
/r/seduction24/02/19 01:43 AM
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One thing I've found that helps is to make physical contact early on. Just a casual brush of her hand or arm, find some excuse to make contact right at the beginning of the interaction. The reason has to do with something I actually posted about not too long ago, a sales concept called compliance. To put it simply, when someone says yes to something (or implicitly agrees to it), they are more likely to continue saying yes. If you just casually brush her hand, she is NOT going to freak out at you…
/r/seduction24/02/19 01:24 AM
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This sub is to guys what makeup is to girls. Tell her if she has a problem with it she can take a hike.
/r/seduction24/02/19 01:06 AM
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The hardest part is the beginning. There's no shame in failure, there's only shame in giving up. So keep on trying. Just go talk to people. Guys, girls, whatever. Talk to the bartender if they're not super busy, idgaf just talk to people. One of my strictest beliefs in game is that even if you're an ugly loser, there's some girl who is attracted to you and wants to fuck you. You just gotta find her. The more girls you approach, the more likely it is you find her. 100 awkward approaches are bette…
/r/seduction24/02/19 01:03 AM
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Wow impressive so edgy so tough how does he do it
/r/seduction23/02/19 06:08 AM
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Push/pulls are best when situational. And while a lot of times they do overlap with disqualification I think it's important to separate the two. Push/pull: I love your shirt, it looks like something Prince would wear. Disqualification: "girl says something" oh well we wouldn't get along then. They're similar and achieve basically the same thing, but overusing one vs the other doesn't work as well as using both, so I advocate trying to learn and use both. Disqualification can use recited lines, I…
/r/seduction23/02/19 06:01 AM
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Don't need luck, I'm doing quite alright.
/r/seduction23/02/19 05:49 AM
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Ok. You don't take me seriously? That's hysterical. Good luck my friend. I genuinely hope you are able to turn things around for yourself.
/r/seduction23/02/19 05:47 AM
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Yes. Yes it is true. How well do you do with women? Not very well, unless you're a very different person irl. Downvote me like a butthurt kid, at the end of the day unless you change shit you're not going anywhere. That's my opinion, and I'm not wrong.
/r/seduction23/02/19 05:40 AM
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Step 1: Walk up to them Step 2: Talk Lots of nuances beyond that, but start there. You'll be fine.
/r/seduction23/02/19 05:38 AM
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I can just tell from reading your comments you're a negative dude who's probably a bummer to be around. You probably hold conversation for "an unlimited period of time" while the other person is just looking for an excuse to bail on said conversation. You're stuck in a rut of "everything sucks" that just overtakes everything you say. I can sense it just from your writing, I can only imagine how much more intense it comes off in person. While physical attractiveness certainly doesn't hurt, it's N…
/r/seduction23/02/19 05:36 AM
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Happy to help, I'm no expert but feel free to dm me if you have questions and I can at least get you started. It's not a bad idea to look up sales techniques too. My last comment is basically straight out of a salesman handbook, but it has a lot of use in seduction as well. And, for that matter, in persuading and influencing people in general in a non-manipulative way. At the end of the day, the goal of a salesman boils down to influencing someone to make a certain decision in their favor. I'd s…
/r/seduction22/02/19 07:58 PM
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Yeah, pretty much. I love kissing, basically always get hard from it. For any guys reading this, dude's mistake was making things too sexual too fast. You shouldn't expose yourself until you and a girl are basically groping each other. A much better sequence of events is to put her hand on your abs. Then, if she doesn't do it herself, put her hand on your junk over your pants. All the while, you want to be escalating on her as well. Put your hand on her shoulder, her back, her thigh, etc. Caress…
/r/seduction16/02/19 07:16 PM
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The main takeaways that I think are important to note for anyone reading this: Women's ratings of strength correlated highly to actual strength. Meaning the attractive men didn't just look strong, they were strong. So hit the gym, nerds. There did not appear to be any tapering off. Meaning there wasn't any point where a man looked "too strong" causing a falling off of results. The stronger the man appeared, the more attractive he appeared, bar none. I repeat, nerds, hit the gym. Leanness IS a fa…
/r/seduction16/02/19 07:06 PM
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Impossible, no, but really freaking difficult yes. My advice is that you're probably just not gonna be able to get the logistics to work out for same night pulls. So take the number and meet up in a situation where you can make the logistics work. Sucks, but is what it is. Or, get clever and think proactively about how and where you can make a pull in the future. There might be a solution you haven't thought of.
/r/seduction16/02/19 06:48 PM
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This is an old cliche that's as false as the classic "if you fake a smile it makes you actually happy" Asking people to do you favors plays into a concept called compliance, which is a lot more complex than 'if someone does something for you they'll like you more'. First off, they might not do it. Or want to do it. In which case, asking them will make them resent you. Second off, while this maybe might work once or twice, just asking people to do a whole bunch of shit for you is going to make th…
/r/seduction16/02/19 03:50 AM
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Yeah it's a touchy topic so I've been hesitant to just post about it without having some more to back it up. But it makes sense, women are flushed with hormones at different stages of their cycle. Testosterone in particular, though typically associated with men, rises around ovulation in women and increases sexual desire in women. There's also research that suggests testosterone increases in men from the scent of a woman around her ovulation. I don't think I'll have much time to create anything …
/r/seduction15/02/19 04:55 AM
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Put it this way: if it matters to you, it'll matter to the women you try and pick up. In other words, if you're self-conscious about the fact that you don't have a good job or a nice vehicle, that will come through in your game. If you don't care whether you do, neither will they. That being said, a six figure salary and an Audi in the garage has never hurt a guy's odds with a chick. Just sayin.
/r/seduction13/02/19 06:16 AM
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Definitely agree. You get it. But your last sentence, I'd disagree. If you're unsure, practice this more. Because it has a lot to offer you if you're good at it. Self deprecation is risky so a lot of guys won't do it in pick up. Which just means, if you are good at it you can do something most girls won't know or at least won't have seen guys do very well. Plus, it's not that hard to get it right and it shows a lot of value if you do get it right.
/r/seduction13/02/19 06:13 AM
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I think with a little practice a newbie can do it. Really, as long as it meets the criteria: No one would think you're insecure about it (penis size jokes - bad, jokes about where you grew up - good) Don't overuse it It's relevant to the conversation It does take a little practice, but it's worth it. You will demonstrate a LOT more value as a guy who can laugh at himself because it shows true confidence. As long as it doesn't come off as poorly socially calibrated, which is low value.
/r/seduction13/02/19 06:09 AM
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I have written short pieces for starters on here you could maybe find going through my posts but you'd have to dig in there to be honest. What I'd really recommend, look up Todd V. He has lots of Youtube videos that will do so much more for you to learn from than anything I could really write. Teaching guys pickup is literally his day job and he's been doing PU for like 20 years. I'm 24. Dude's been pulling bitches since I was in kindergarten. One thing I have been debating posting about that I …
/r/seduction13/02/19 06:01 AM
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There's a certain trust between smokers I can't explain to a non-smoker. It makes no sense, and by NO means do I advocate picking up such a disgusting habit for ANY reason. But it exists. Also, many of these "approaches" begin by a person asking to use a lighter or bum a smoke. If you're not smoking, you're not gonna get that "approach" just standing there.
/r/seduction13/02/19 05:10 AM
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100% agree. I have gum disease from smoking and I'm 24. Trying to quit. Completely awful for you.
/r/seduction11/02/19 05:59 AM
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Young and old. Women don't fear creeps. They fear being seen with a low value guy. Unless what you're saying has really rapey undertones it's highly unlikely she actually suspects you're a creep. Far more likely is she thinks you're poorly socially adjusted and low value. I've talked some pretty crazy shit with girls during pickup. I actually came to this sub like 5 months ago as I was going through a rough breakup. Well, one of the times I was trying to pick a girl up I pretty much broke down a…
/r/seduction11/02/19 05:35 AM
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Volunteering is even better. Most guys who volunteer are total fruitcakes that you can easily out-alpha. And on top of that, there will probably be like 5 guys to every 20 girls. I had to do court ordered community service hours, but I could do it at any non-profit. After my required hours were met I still kept going because it's been a great source of meeting women. The downside has been I did my hours with a Christian organization and most of the girls I meet aren't about putting out. I'll hav…
/r/seduction11/02/19 05:24 AM
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Just talk to her. If you don't talk to her, you have no chance. If you do talk to her, it will either go well or you'll learn what not to do for the next girl you approach.
/r/seduction11/02/19 05:16 AM
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I think it's reasonably well known and innocuous enough that if she didn't get it there's no harm done.
/r/seduction11/02/19 05:15 AM
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For sure, but don't take my word as gospel. Women aren't that mysterious, guys are just oblivious. Go out and have interactions with women and take notice of how they act based off your words and actions. You'll start to put things together really quickly and realize that women are humans and guys are humans so we think in similar but slightly different ways. One of the biggest epiphanies most guys have somewhat early on in game that really opens the door for them is the realization that women w…
/r/seduction11/02/19 05:13 AM
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ROFL god I hope so. I can just picture some twat sucking smoke into his mouth trying to look cool waiting for hot broads to approach him.
/r/seduction11/02/19 05:05 AM
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Sounds like she's into you. Don't overthink it. As long as the vibe is casual, keep it casual (note: casual doesn't mean friendly or not sexual). If you get the opportunity to physically escalate, take it every single time. The two things you want to avoid right now are 1) looking needy and desperate and 2) signaling to her you aren't interested in any more sex. Overall you're on a pretty good path with this girl. Seems like you dig her and she digs you. Keep doing what you're doing and don't fo…
/r/seduction11/02/19 03:55 AM
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First and foremost you have to realize that if you go out and get laid on a same-night pull 1 out of every 4 times you go out, that's above average. And to raise that probability, you probably have to lower the standards of who you'll sleep with more than anything. Tinder, Bumble, etc are ok. I wouldn't devote a ton of time to them, but if you spend a day or so getting some good pics and writing a good bio, and 10 mins every now and then swiping, you might get some background action going. Don't…
/r/seduction11/02/19 03:19 AM
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There's a particular scenario where I've had so many women approach me. I'm a moderately attractive guy, 6ft, dress reasonably well, but really nothing special to the point where girls would normally come to me. But, when doing one certain thing, it totally changes. What is it? Standing in front of a club/bar smoking a cigarette. If you're not a smoker, you may live years or decades longer than me. But you will have missed out on one of the purest forms of random social bonding. Standing in fron…
/r/seduction11/02/19 03:02 AM
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Total honesty: because I've been there. It means the girl is feeling a connection with you, she's trying to validate herself to you, but she can't set the premise to be sexual (she can, in theory, but girls just don't). It means you're doing 90% of it right and she's digging you but the conversation isn't man-to-woman it's friend-to-friend. Rather than waiting for this to come up and then making it sexual, you're way better off making it sexual from the start.
/r/seduction11/02/19 02:49 AM
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Shave, haircut, new clothes. Take better pictures. Take pics outside in semi-interesting places (downtown, in a park, at beach, etc), cloudy/overcast creates the best lighting. If you have a good camera or know someone who does use that camera. Otherwise use high-quality phone camera (newest iphones, LG V30, and Pixel have good cameras). Work on that bio. Show that you're witty, humorous, and interesting. You'll do much better on Tinder after that. I went from getting zero matches to matching wi…
/r/seduction11/02/19 01:00 AM
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If you're getting nice guy from what I wrote it says a lot more about you than it does about me. It's comical you could misinterpret what I said so egregiously.
/r/seduction09/02/19 08:11 PM
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As others pointed out, women get super horny at weddings which makes your odds of successful pick up a lot better. My tips: -Don't focus on her, focus on being an overall fun, confident guy. Approach her when a natural opportunity presents itself. Approach other girls too. And guys. The last thing you want is for it to look like you're going girl to girl trying to pick them up. You can easily pass this off as it's your sister's wedding, you're having a good time just conversing with people. If y…
/r/seduction09/02/19 06:28 PM
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Witty and sexual. I like it. Just as a note, this is a type of shit test that usually comes up when you're presenting too much comfort and not enough value. If you're hearing this often, rather than focusing on how to respond to it I'd suggest trying to work on building value and intent sooner to address it before she does. How direct are you being in your approach?
/r/seduction09/02/19 06:08 PM
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So... posting about how to seduce women on a page called seduction = I'm a nice guy. The logic here is just incredible.
/r/seduction09/02/19 06:01 PM
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Not really. I don't get involved with girls who are taken because it's too complicated. When there's so many women out there who are available, why make it difficult?
/r/seduction09/02/19 05:03 PM
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You misunderstood me. Personally, I don't go for girls who are taken. Not because I'm a "nice guy" but because frankly it's too complicated. And no, not every conversation is romantic, obviously, but that's why it's important to identify when a conversation is romantic. Most non-familiar male-to-female interactions have a huge attraction component to them. It's hardwired in the depths of our brain that when we see a member of the opposite sex our first instinct is to scan them as a potential mat…
/r/seduction09/02/19 04:59 PM
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I'm not saying she didn't have a husband, I'm saying it's possible she was attracted to you anyway. You do realize women cheat, right? Not all women, but quite a few. A girl saying she has a boyfriend or husband is quite often a shit test and is actually a sign of attraction. Oh yes, social proof is insanely powerful. Probably the most powerful form of value a man can possibly attain. This is why I am such a strong proponent of the "friend zone" being a good thing. If other girls see you hanging…
/r/seduction09/02/19 04:42 PM
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Try showing her open body language regularly. Make eye contact, point your hips and feet toward her, stand upright (imagine a string pulling you up by the shoulders), and smile. If she's interested, she will mirror your body language. It won't happen right away, most likely, so keep with it for at least a few weeks. If she still isn't showing any signs of interest, move on. "Quiet" girls often are only quiet because you're being quiet with them. Give her a reason to not be quiet.
/r/seduction09/02/19 07:07 AM
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Numerous studies have shown that the same women find vastly different things attractive at different stages of their monthly cycle. During menstruation, pre-ovulation, ovulation, and post-ovulation the same woman will find different things attractive. It turns out being blasted by hormones kinda fucks up yo shit sometimes. The primary difference between male and female attraction is that male attraction is primarily self-based while female attraction is connection and value-based. A man is attra…
/r/seduction09/02/19 07:02 AM
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Next time that happens don't think about flirting. If a girl is on you like that, all you need to do is hold her and physically escalate. Give her a hug, rub her arm then thigh, kiss her, etc. She's already vibing with you, don't waste that.
/r/seduction09/02/19 06:32 AM
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I'm not saying it's ethical, if a woman told me she was married and I didn't have reason not to believe her I would just back off.... BUT.... this is a shit test. A classic one. Getting a shit test is the OPPOSITE of the time to stop flirting. A shit test is basically a woman thinking "I want to sleep with this guy but I shouldn't want to sleep with this guy" so she uses passive aggressive statements, comments, questions, etc. It's mainly a way for her to emotionally distance herself from you, b…
/r/seduction09/02/19 06:28 AM
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Could mean she's nervous. Doesn't necessarily mean she's not attracted. Especially if you show her similar body language. Women often mirror the body language that they're shown, so if you're showing her negative body language all the time she will almost definitely show you negative body language.
/r/seduction09/02/19 06:16 AM
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Sorry, was busy the past few days just seeing this. So, how did it go? Straight up is good. One way or another you'll get an answer. Take that answer and live with it. If she says no, don't dwell on it. Move on. It means the attraction isn't there, and if she already knows you it's going to be difficult to build that attraction up.
/r/seduction08/02/19 04:55 AM
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Pursue in a soft way? That sounds like the absolute worst thing you can do. If you already fucked her then she's already attracted to you. If you back off now it would be like getting hired at a job then they tell you they actually only want you as a part-time contractor. You'd be like what the fuck. And so will she. If she doesn't want things to move forward then I'd say move on. Especially if you're in the same friend group.
/r/seduction05/02/19 04:22 AM
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Don't worry about the details. Believe it or not, you come from a LONG line of sexually successful men. Your father, grandfather, great-grandfather, and so on all got laid at least once. Getting women is ingrained in your brain just as much as breathing and eating are, but we tend to overthink and overcomplicate it. Don't be so afraid of rejection, looking like a fool, etc that you never get out there and try, because you'll find if you just get out there that it wasn't even that hard in the fir…
/r/seduction05/02/19 04:14 AM
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Todd V related it to Alec Baldwin's famous "always be closing" scene. In that scene, if you're not familiar, Baldwin's character is an accomplished salesman trying to, for lack of a better word, inspire some underperforming salesmen. He breaks down the sales process into what he calls A.I.D.A. and it turns out to relate to game quite well. After all, you are essentially 'closing a deal' in game too. Here's how A.I.D.A. breaks down for game: Attention - Get her focused on you. Your opener and int…
/r/seduction03/02/19 08:50 PM
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If she's talking to you assume she's interested. You should be approaching women with the mindset that you are a high value guy and that you have more to offer them than they have to offer you. I would recommend using a very direct approach to start off with. Go up to a girl and tell her what's on your mind. Tell her that something about her drew you to her, and that you two should go over to the bar, to the coffee place, etc. Note, this works a lot better if she's not with friends. If she is wi…
/r/seduction03/02/19 08:27 PM
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Of course. There's two components to attraction: value and comfort. Value is the more carnal part of it, where she sees you as a valuable "alpha" type of guy who will provide for and protect her. Comfort is the more logical and emotional part, where she actually feels happy, safe, and fulfilled by you. You need to have both in order to make attraction happen, and you need them to be in somewhat close levels to each other. Being "freindzoned" is really nothing more than not having enough value an…
/r/seduction03/02/19 08:17 PM
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I had a breakup experience similar to what you're going through. Hell, I'm still going through it 4 months later. It's not easy, there's moments where I just feel like shit, but as time goes on those moments happen less and less. And the realizations and improvements I've made to myself have made those moments worth it. For me, our break was mutual. At first, I knew it was the right thing to do and that made it easier. But like you I didn't really have a lot of friends. I had been working in res…
/r/seduction03/02/19 08:04 PM
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Wasn't there personally so I'm just going off what you wrote, but I don't mean to say you did anything wrong. She showed up for a date, she showed interest, you physically escalated in a proper way, and you ended the date on a solid note. Sounds like things went well. I'm just trying to offer some insight to do even better. I was just going back and forth with someone about the virtues of each style (direct vs indirect), and definitely one thing that direct does better is it forces intent. If yo…
/r/seduction02/02/19 09:01 PM
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"We chat for 20 minutes or so, and it appears we have no interests in common. I said I'd like to ask her out, but i'm not sure what we'd actually do together" One of the few people I've actually seen demonstrate true abundance mindset on here. So many guys, myself included, get lured into thinking they have an abundance mindset but still get sucked into minor cases of oneitis. So props to you. That's definitely one of my bigger struggles in game.
/r/seduction02/02/19 08:21 PM
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More so than where you sat I'd say your biggest mistake was over-validating yourself to her. You had to go talk to her, you need a girlfriend, and you threw her compliment after compliment. Next time, I'd say try to focus on phrasing things more like you did at the end... you're taking applications for girlfriend. But don't ask would you like to apply, say you should apply. Phrasing things can be so simple but take you from "needy guy trying to convince me to date you" into "confident guy that s…
/r/seduction02/02/19 08:17 PM
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"You see, whenever a wuss starts to grow silently inside of you, only a girl can point it out and reveal it in the clearest way possible." Damn. Fucking. True. I went through a breakup like 3-4 months ago, and it was one of the hardest things I've ever had to deal with (and I've dealt with some fairly tragic stuff, I have lived no sheltered life). A big reason it was so hard is because we were together for two and a half years, and just losing someone you were that close to is tough. But even bi…
/r/seduction02/02/19 07:57 PM
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Good post. I agree with you, and actually think self improvement does work, but so many people do self improvement wrong. But it's self improvement through the lens your post has. I made a post on here a while back one night while I was up late and couldn't sleep. I had an epiphany that my success with women naturally followed my personal success in life. When I was in a good place in my life, accomplishing things, doing things that made me actually happy and overall being a version of myself th…
/r/seduction02/02/19 07:45 PM
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Correlation is not causation. These traits may be indicative of confident people, but trying to mimic them to appear confident isn't a good idea. Basically, it's hard to fake confidence. If you're nervous but doing your best to seem confident by doing these, it's a lot more likely you're going to fixate on your hands and body and posture and voice to the point that you'll just end up being twitchy and neurotic. A much better approach is to figure out how to actually be confident when speaking wi…
/r/seduction02/02/19 07:27 PM
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Only if it's two girls.... and one cup
/r/seduction02/02/19 02:21 AM
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Basically every guy realizes this at some point. But here's the thing: you can get better! My quick tips: Focus on being high value. High value means you're not trying to impress her, or any girl. You're confident, self-assured, and independent. Nothing she says can affect you. You're used to people hanging off your every word. You're the opposite of needy. Things that generally help your value are to display things you're actually really good at. Smart? Find a way to show it naturally. Funny? U…
/r/seduction02/02/19 02:20 AM
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I'd simplify this even more. To me, there's one reason and one reason only why a girl doesn't want to be with a guy, whether she wants to be friends with him or never see him again. Your value is not high enough. This explains all your points. First point: there is no spark because you haven't created the spark. It is definitely possible that you two are just not compatible, it happens, not every girl will value the same things in guys. You could be the most attractive, valuable guy on earth and…
/r/seduction02/02/19 01:54 AM
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None of us know the details, so none of us can tell you what to do. What I will say is if you approach her and honestly tell her how you feel, you will never wonder what could've been. It may not turn out well, but at least you will know. It will also help your case to focus on building some attraction beforehand. Make sexual comments, build sexual tension, display your value to her, etc. Use good game as best you can. Then, confidently tell her that she belongs with you, and being with any othe…
/r/seduction31/01/19 03:46 AM
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Ferris Bueller that shit. Place a cardboard cutout at your desk and have a day off picking up chicks. Seriously though, can you take extended lunches? If you can, try to bring a lunch and eat it while working or eat it really fast on your lunch break, then spend whatever time you can at lunch going out. If it's an hour, great. Two hours? Perfect. Half hour? Better than nothing.
/r/seduction31/01/19 03:29 AM
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Best thing to do at this point is hit her up and be like "I totally forgot about saturday, my bad. what are you up to?" She didn't ghost you, she just didn't hit you up. But you didn't her up either. As a guy, it's your job to do basically everything while also not appearing needy. Best way to do that is to treat a girl like an old friend. She had agreed to being on for Saturday as a maybe. Imagine that was a friend that you had known for years. What are you gonna do Saturday? Probably text them…
/r/seduction31/01/19 03:24 AM
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Fuck her boyfriend.
/r/seduction31/01/19 03:17 AM
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Build sexual tension. Talk about risque topics, obviously start a little bit more subtle since you work together, and judge his reactions. A good example is the "my friend" cliche. As in, I had a crazy weekend, went to the bar with my friend and she started making out with random guys and went home with one of them. He can't blame you for anything, and it's not like HR is going to write you up for that, but it's sexual nonetheless. If he doesn't seem turned off, go further. Keep building it up a…
/r/seduction31/01/19 03:13 AM
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The key, the absolute key, is knowing from the depths of your brain that if you fuck it up, you will find another chick in 5 mins. Why is it you can walk around all day without being nervous or jittery, but if there were a platform 500 ft above the ground with no railing, you would likely freeze up and not be able to walk across it? Simple, because your brain knows if you fall, it's game over. You're basically an expert in walking, you do it all freaking day, you don't even have to think about i…
/r/seduction31/01/19 03:01 AM
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This is a way more well spoken way of what I've been trying to tell people forever. If you have hot girls as your friend, you're literally 95% of the way there. It may not be with those girls specifically, but if you actually befriend a hot girl who friendzones you, she is bound to have other hot friends she will introduce you to, instant social proof. Or if you go out and other girls see you with hot girls, more instant social proof. Seriously, it's a win-win. So many guys get to the friendzone…
/r/seduction31/01/19 02:51 AM
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I feel like we're going in circles here. No, I don't have scientific proof, obviously, and neither do you. That's kinda the point of this whole subreddit. For us guys to hash out techniques without having such a luxury. But enough focus on direct vs indirect. I think it's semantics that are making for a pointless argument. Basically, what I'm getting here from you, and feel free to correct me, is that you support openly and blatantly stating your intentions with a girl, which demonstrates confid…
/r/seduction31/01/19 02:44 AM
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The reason I say indirect isn't actually indirect is because SO MANY people get this idea that direct is better because any random thing you say that is direct is better than any random thing you say that's not direct, which is definitely true, but well-crafted indirect is better than direct overall. And well-crafted indirect usually isn't totally indirect. Basically you want it to be as direct as you can possibly get without actually being direct. That's kind of confusing because of all the tim…
/r/seduction31/01/19 12:46 AM
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Think of it like Tinder. Tinder is basically like an app version of your method. You present yourself (virtually) and she decides in a split moment whether or not she's interested. If in that split second she decides she isn't interested, too bad for you. On the other hand, if you're indirect (which indirect is not the best term, I feel it has connotations that aren't true.... it's more like "less direct" than "indirect" really) you give yourself a chance to establish some attraction and demonst…
/r/seduction28/01/19 01:56 AM
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Just assume every girl is attracted to you unless given clear evidence otherwise. Every time you assume she isn't attracted, whether she is or isn't, you decrease your odds of actually moving forward with her because you are going to feel "beneath" her in that scenario, like you need to win her over. If you assume she is attracted, then you will go over to her confidently and not try to win her over because you're assuming the attraction is already there. If anything, you will make her validate …
/r/seduction23/01/19 11:49 PM
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I'm not 100% sure if you're being serious or not but I'll address your comment assuming you are. Excuse me doesn't sound like much of an attention grabber unless you're pretty darn good looking. I couldn't disagree more about your honesty comments. There's been countless guys who have experimented with being extremely forward and here's the thing about it: when it works, it works fast and it works well. When there's already a high level of attraction to you, being forward cuts through all the BS…
/r/seduction23/01/19 11:00 PM
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Oh dude you have so much higher to go. 19 you're still just a kid. Men don't physically or sexually start to peak until at least early 20s. Just be patient and let nature do its thing, keep working on your game, and don't underestimate the importance of making yourself an all around good and attractive person on game. If you feel like you're a successful, important, attractive person others will think that too.
/r/seduction21/01/19 02:21 PM
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Your opener is fine. Complimenting a woman on opening is ok, especially for beginners. It helps establish premise, or the reason you're talking to her. Establishing premise is an important part of pickup. Women aren't stupid, they know you're talking to them for a reason. They can be interested, they can be not interested, but if you never get to the point then they can't even decide. Practice conversation starters. This isn't purely a pickup skill, it's really a life skill. Learning how to star…
/r/seduction21/01/19 05:32 AM
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It's not though. Don't get me wrong, I like game overall. It teaches men a LOT of skills that no one else teaches us. But this whole "alpha male" mindset a lot of guys in this field start to tend to is frankly just bull. It's an oversimplified way of categorizing behaviors. There's just not "alphas" and "betas" in this world, there's individual behaviors that might reflect one or the other more, but to say you're one or the other overall is just nonsense. Trying to make game into a lifestyle or …
/r/seduction21/01/19 05:17 AM
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Meant more verbally, but definitely an important note to make. My game was suffering for a while, couldn't figure out why, got a haircut and my game went way up. Looking like a slob is a huge negative.
/r/seduction21/01/19 01:27 AM
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Two ways to go, direct and indirect. Direct is just being straight up. Wanna come back to my place, wanna get out of here, wanna go make out on my couch, etc. Works better if she's already fairly committed to you, meaning she's already verbally acknowledged you two are hanging out tonight, spending time together, etc. Indirect is a better method most of the time. The way it works is by not explicitly saying you're going to your place, but kind of dancing around it. Here's why: if you ask her bac…
/r/seduction20/01/19 10:03 PM
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Game is just a tool. It's just something that can be used to help make a particular result happen. It's not a philosophy, it's not a lifestyle, it's a tool. You have to be the judge of when and how much to use that tool to get the results that you personally want. The really skilled guys out there who have been doing seduction for years and years have generally reached the point where they've been able to just incorporate the aspects of game that suit them into their personalities. Whatever poin…
/r/seduction20/01/19 09:41 PM
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Learn about body language then. Everything you need to know is in a girl's body language. If you learn the signs of interest, sometimes also called IOI or indicators of interest, then all you need to do is see the signals and act on them.
/r/seduction05/01/19 09:40 PM
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Start googling, reading books, and watching youtube videos on seduction, pickup, and the like. This stuff isn't just for horndog guys who just want to bang as many women as they can, there's a lot of useful information out there for guys just looking to do a little better with women. And it sounds like your knowledge of it is pretty minimal, which means there's a lot more information out there than I could possibly convey to you in one comment. For starters, here's a few things to help you out: …
/r/seduction05/01/19 01:51 AM
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I don't think it would be classified as either attractive or not attractive because it depends on too many other things. Not caring what other people think of you could be attractive but mostly because you're not seeking validation and you're not trying to build rapport. Those two things are mostly unattractive, but super common, so by not doing them you'll seem more attractive. On the other hand, not caring what other people think of you could be unattractive because it displays a social discon…
/r/seduction05/01/19 01:24 AM
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Just go out and do stuff you think will be fun. The more you try to strain yourself, the more uncomfortable you will seem by default. Going somewhere that is of no interest to you other than to pick up bitches will get you nowhere. Find activities you think sound exciting. Pick up new hobbies, even if they aren't the kind of place you'd meet women. Do things you're good at or want to get better at. Because, ultimately, if you try to force yourself into situations with women, you will never attra…
/r/seduction04/01/19 05:09 AM
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Just the opposite. My issue with women, from an ADHD perspective, was I'd never shut up. I'd talk circles around them. Which is actually better than stammering by quite a bit. The problem is maintaining focus on the task at hand, that is to say, picking them up. I've never suffered from anxiety, so unfortunately I don't have much specific advice. What I can say is something I said in a post last night here, and that is guys are their most confident, attractive selves when they're achieving perso…
/r/seduction03/01/19 02:31 PM
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Social skill is the overall ability to make friends and socialize. Conversational skill is your ability to hold a conversation and use conversations to achieve goals. Basically, people might be your friend because you're reliable, or funny, or trustworthy, or whatever. But conversational skills are more about your charisma, emotional intelligence, etc.
/r/seduction02/01/19 01:32 AM
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I didn't say social skills I said conversational skills
/r/seduction02/01/19 01:07 AM
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Not being an asshole I'm just stating the obvious. There's lots of proof out there for simple looking guys getting hot girls simply through the use of skilled conversation.
/r/seduction02/01/19 12:46 AM
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If you can talk to a beautiful woman without sounding like a stammering idiot it goes a long way. Most beautiful people just aren't used to it because they're so used to everyone putting them on a pedestal. Give them good conversation and you'll stand out. The best analogy I've heard is this: imagine you have a small square to stand in, the size of a dictionary or so. Can you jump up and down within this square? Most likely you can do so easily. Now imagine that square is 500 ft in the air. Can …
/r/seduction01/01/19 10:17 PM
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To an extent, I agree. Beautiful women are approached a lot, but by a lot of creepers and nervous dudes. Just showing her basic decency and having good conversational skills will make you really stand out.
/r/seduction01/01/19 09:00 PM
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Thanks man I appreciate it. It could've been much worse, I didn't get a concussion or any broken bones. And luckily I have outstanding insurance through my work so it's not costing me much at all. We'll see about getting my teeth fixed though.... doubt that'll be cheap.
/r/seduction01/01/19 05:48 PM
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You brought up mental conditions, of which I actually suffer from one as well (ADHD, and not in the over-diagnosed sense, I couldn't hold down a job until I started getting treatment for ADHD, changed my life). Well, here's another mental condition: narcissism. Has a huge negative connotation, right? Narcissists are anti-social, destructive people. But here's the thing... Narcissists do extremely well with women. Many of the most notorious serial killers, notably Ted Bundy, are/were narcissists …
/r/seduction01/01/19 06:33 AM
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Do you have a problem with it because of what they're doing, or because you're not doing it? If it's because you're not getting any... work on that. Might help. If you have a problem with what they're doing, then keep reading, I have a story for you. I had never cared about this until my last relationship when I really fell in love. I had never cared who a girl had been with or how many guys, but for some reason with her, when I fell for her I started caring. Thinking of her having sex with othe…
/r/seduction01/01/19 04:50 AM
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Build sexual tension. Tell him you wanna fuck him while you guys are somewhere random like the grocery store. Rub his legs or something else provocative (of course not in blatant public but maybe in semi-private places like in a booth at a restaurant or something).
/r/seduction01/01/19 04:01 AM
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Dude you're super manic. But it sounds like you're basically just pulling your head around game in a way that makes sense to you, so props. What I would say is you can call it whatever you want, confidence, pride, swagger, etc. It doesn't change what you're really going for, which is to make her think that you're better than her. I think you made a really good point about that too, some girls might call seduction manipulative or whatever but so is makeup. All any of us are really trying to do is…
/r/seduction01/01/19 03:32 AM
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You're thinking of attraction wrong. It's not like at this stage of attraction she will do this for you, and at that stage of attraction she'll do that, attraction is just the overall "how much is she into you" kind of vibe. Qualifying her is a little like our version of a shit test. Basically what you're doing is presenting a girl with a frame that says "I'm better than you" and it's your goal to make the conversation reflect that frame. She's either going to accept that frame, or she's going t…
/r/seduction01/01/19 03:17 AM
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Doesn't sound like these two were smart enough to organize a pb&j sandwich much less a plot to make a threesome. Sounds more to me like this girl is a trainwreck and wanted to get wasted but still be taken care of (and fucked) and brought along two thirsty dudes in hopes of making that happen. You want to hear a girl trying to make a MMF happen? I've got a story from when I was 17 or so. I worked with this girl in a restaurant, we went to some parties together and we'd bone after. Well, we go to…
/r/seduction01/01/19 02:20 AM
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Oh nice. I'm very new, not even a month. I love Todd's stuff. He's very intelligent and charismatic, which I am too, but like you I lacked social/dating knowledge. I've dated above my league (I'm like a 5 or 6, I've dated 8s and 9s) but I was always hearing like oh so-and-so liked you when it was too late. I've always been terrible at making advances with girls, and I went through a bad breakup so I finally said enough is enough I need to learn this shit and so far it's been mind blowing. I know…
/r/seduction01/01/19 01:56 AM
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Sounds like you're getting shit tested and reading too much into it. Just agree and amplify. Why don't you already have a gf? I do, I actually have 20, need to start getting rid of some You must be with a lot of girls. Yeah so many I lost count You probably have a pretty solid frame when you're approaching her and your frame is telling her you're above her. So she's going to test your frame with a shit test. It sounds like you need to start looking into more advanced PU technique and trying to w…
/r/seduction01/01/19 12:27 AM
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Nice videos. I would say that overall these videos are a good starting point. If you want a really thorough intro video I like this one: https://youtu.be/tsc9LG-HagM It's long but thorough. I'd recommend watching it at 1.5 speed through the parts you're familiar with. It touches on a lot of the concepts the videos you listed go over, but it puts everything in the bigger context of a full encounter in a helpful way. There's a LOT of info that he throws out, I found it helpful to have a piece of p…
/r/seduction01/01/19 12:11 AM
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Work on your game with other girls. Seriously, just start trying to seduce women at school, the mall, bars/clubs, wherever. Since they're not your focus you'll be more aloof and you'll do better. You won't be putting them on a pedestal since they're not even the one you want, right? Once your game is better you can either score with work girl or be pulling enough to not care. The biggest cause of oneitis is not having enough options. ​
/r/seduction31/12/18 11:44 PM
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No, there's a lot more to attraction than just that. If that's the way you think about it and it's working for you, cool. But that doesn't mean it works that way for everyone. You're talking about advanced PUA techniques, I'm talking about a video called "How to talk to girls" that is aimed at beginners. Yes, if you can be confident, suave, and aloof just casually strolling up to a beautiful girl, you're going to woo her far more than coming up and saying this line. However, if you're new to sed…
/r/seduction30/12/18 06:54 PM
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Well like I said somewhere else, actual videos of you using the lines you claim would go a long way. I'm not doubting your lines work for you. I'm not really a pickup/hookup guy, but I have always dated out of my league and I have never once in any way done what most "pick up artists" do. So I am pretty familiar with the fact that there's more than one way to get results here. On the topic of who women dress to impress, the answer as a whole is: it depends. And frankly, based on your answer, you…
/r/seduction25/12/18 02:36 AM
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I disagree about it not making you more attractive. Confidence is very attractive in a man, and by showing you're not afraid to expose a bit of your personality to her, you're showing you aren't intimidated. When you walk up and go hey girl you're cute, or whatever, trying to spit game at her like every other guy, you're showing her that you need those lines as a crutch. To your point about an unattractive girl doing this to me, I do agree kinda. But if a girl I wasn't all that attracted to came…
/r/seduction24/12/18 08:01 PM
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I will add: it probably works better with less attractive girls. I'm talking 6 and below. If a girl is above a 6, she's not looking for male attention because her life is an onslaught of male attention. She's told by so many guys she's cute, sexy, whatever, that she tunes it out like you tune out car insurance ads telling you how much money they'll save you. If she's actually middle of the road or lower and isn't often told she's sexy, it would probably work better.
/r/seduction24/12/18 02:43 AM
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I don't doubt it can work. As I said to OP, if it's part of a system that works for you, great! That's awesome, I'm happy for you. The odds we're looking in the same pool of women is astronomically low, and I'm an empathetic person so others finding success makes me happy. I'm genuinely happy to hear it works for you and I'd love to hear more about your strategy. As far as what I'm saying, as I mentioned if I wasn't on my phone I would happily link you to more in depth pieces. You can look into …
/r/seduction24/12/18 02:39 AM
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Women don't dress to impress men. Maybe if they're specifically trying to impress one guy (like going on a date or something). but if they're just going out they're not. I guarantee it. The reasons are mixed, but mainly think of it like this: fashion for girls is like sports or cars for guys. It's something they enjoy the nuances of. A guy complimenting a girl on her looks is like a girl telling a guy she watches football. Yeah, she might, but most girls who say that are saying that to impress t…
/r/seduction24/12/18 02:07 AM
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Nice. And yes, I would generally agree. Most guys aren't good. That's what makes seduction so lucrative, it's all about doing the things other guys aren't doing. And everyone has their own systems that work for them. If you have a system that works, big plus to you. I don't mean to just knock down what you're saying by any means. I'm just coming from the perspective that if beginners are coming here and seeing your video and trying those lines, they're probably going to get rejected and not know…
/r/seduction23/12/18 11:22 PM
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Awesome, glad I could help. I'd recommend trying to add in real life usage as well. Makes what you're saying more credible. You should elaborate on that subcommunication. What do you mean? I'm a guy with a good amount of female friends (I don't believe in, or generally care about, the friend zone) and going out with them I've seen lots of different approach tactics. For pretty much any of the girls I know, the lines you listed probably wouldn't work. So if you're having success with them I'm gen…
/r/seduction23/12/18 10:57 PM
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Honestly my goal is building confidence. I'm recovering from a breakup from an almost 3 year relationship. So, my confidence has been shit. Being able to go out and talk to other women and charm them, or at least thinking I can, helps me to feel a little bit better. It gets my mind off things and helps me feel a little more control. I think meeting some new people along the way is a cool side perk, and if that involves sleeping with a girl or finding a new girlfriend then so be it. But if the on…
/r/seduction23/12/18 09:37 PM
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Because you have an accent, you just have to be a little extra mindful of people being able to understand you. Don't be afraid to use text on the screen to highlight what you're saying, and use some cuts. Rather than having a big 7 minute ongoing monologue, chop it into pieces. Use pictures or diagrams or something to add in little "breaks" when needed. It's like reading an essay that's all one paragraph. Also, I'm not sure about your lines. #1 - "Excuse me I think you're cute" The most generic …
/r/seduction23/12/18 09:22 PM
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Interesting. It makes sense. Whenever you cold approach someone, their first instinct is to be hesitant of you, wary of you, and skeptical of you. They're going to be mentally and emotionally guarded. They'll say the minimum they can, usually. It's why pick up lines rarely work. You're hiding behind lines and game to protect yourself, so she will keep her walls up to protect herself. By opening yourself up and being real, saying something like hey so I'm nervous but I saw you and knew I'd regret…
/r/seduction23/12/18 08:50 PM
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Remind yourself if she's making out with you she probably wants to bone. Not for sure, but most likely. So be a gentleman and give the kind lady what she wants! I suggest using touch. Start somewhere innocent like back or shoulders, then move to more sensitive places like her neck and outside her thighs. If she pulls back a bit, don't be alarmed, just move back to a safe spot and wait a bit then try again. Once you've escalated to there, move to even more sensitive areas like her chest and insid…
/r/seduction15/12/18 08:27 AM
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Oh for sure. I already started at the gym, and I start doing some PT next week. The best I felt was when I was joining the army and got in the best shape of my life. Step #1 for sure. Picking up a new hobby I'll have to look into. Maybe yoga would be good. Lots of women around in a non-threatening atmosphere, often go alone as opposed to with friends, and it's something I'd like to do anyway. I guess the root of my question is hard to explain though.... You know how when an athlete is injured an…
/r/seduction15/12/18 07:55 AM
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