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You're the daddy I wish I had. Early 20s but god I need male mentors IRL right now.
/r/TheRedPill03/06/17 07:48 AM
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I hate to be that guy but I asked you an open question and instead of answering you're expecting me to guess. Lol dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 07:49 AM
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I said examples of cultures where masculinity isn't traditionally linked to self worth in men Not utopian contemporary metrosexuality Because if you're talking about America I'm going to bring up the Appalachian Trail pioneers, the Mormons who settled in the middle of Utah, the early colonists, the Civil War, the War for Independance. Everything's changing today but only RP recognises the problems men are having and adjust to suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 12:21 AM
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and yet get more of it. I'm struggling to stay polite here while you talk around me to avoid addressing my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 02:54 PM
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Keen to provide me any examples of cultures where masculinity isn't traditionally linked to self worth in men or are you just trying to allude to some utopian contemporary metrosexuality? Because right now you're being all smug and superior by acting like everyone knows where your train of thought is going without you having to stoop to explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 02:51 PM
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My point right there. Average women desire/seek out casual sex less and yet get more of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 08:10 AM
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I was being facetious. Men and women generally have differing goals and drives in society so I don't think it's productive to compare them too closely. So when Menslib straddles the border between addressing men's issues within the context of feminism or at least in a way that doesn't conflict with feminism, I think there is a conflict of interest which inhibits any progress. And sure the pill enabled sexual liberation for women but it didn't necessarily encourage it. I consider myself sex posit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 07:09 AM
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Statistical outliers aren't considered part of the data set, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 05:02 AM
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Lemme guess, you've either got a healthy sex life or a low to none sex drive rite? Opinion discarded. You're on the wrong side of the fence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 02:19 PM
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No they don't. That's literally impossible because any time a woman has sex with a new man, that man is having sex with a new woman. Don't be pedantic. Cut out the top 20% of men on the SMP as outliers and check that average again - Pareto says the female average is higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 02:17 PM
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the struggle of a woman who is very unattractive but really nice who can't get a boyfriend Thank feminism then for the destruction of the traditional nuclear family. For her, becoming more submissive and nicer won't help her. Of course it won't she should be empowered! And becoming more confident and assertive and growing her wealth won't help her either. Thanks feminism At least a man can become more assertive, more confident and grow his wealth - and it will help his chances in the dating mark…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 07:03 AM
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Just being in a comparably strong position does not guarantee conflict will not erupt. France was strong when England started the Hundred Years war over a succession dispute.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 06:58 AM
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It's a key requirement for for self respect that you stand up for what you believe in. No fault there. As to the rest - have fun convincing me misogyny is a bad thing when it's backed up by observable stats!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 06:55 AM
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You: This is really key. RP has inextricably linked - Dominance = Masculinity = Self Worth But for much of the world that's just not the case. Me: I'm not sure what cultures you're looking at where masculinity isn't traditional linked to self worth in men. You: Thanks for illustrating my point. I think we're having some kind of failure to communicate here...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 06:52 AM
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What help though, counselling? The mental well-being of someone near you does not require you to have sex with them. I was discussing with someone else in the thread about a comparable situation in the novel Lord of the Flies. While sex or sex deprivation wasn't a theme of the book it explored interpersonal relations in a group of people stranded on a desert island and how they broke down over time. Mental wellbeing was not a factor at first but rather the (sometimes inequal) assignment of resou…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 11:10 AM
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I used to have an edgy opinion like that too. Do you remember the old desert island question we used to ask as kids that went "Who would you rather be stuck with on a desert island: X or Y?" Where X and Y are two things you really dislike. I'm not sure any of us in our comfy western lifestyles are really in tune with ourselves enough to understand what would happen over major long term situations of stress and deprivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 11:05 AM
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If you think about it she's still going through her porn phase but with a weird political angle to it.
/r/TheRedPill27/05/17 09:37 AM
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The situation is analogous. Mike is in a position of power (unique indispendable critical skill) and in order to prevent violence breaking down (people getting hurt/dying due to lack of Mike's skill... or Mike getting hurt by the others withholding their skills from him) a female mate is provided. In a desert island scenario it's unrealistic not to consider caveman social structures.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 08:31 AM
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The situation is analogous. Mike is in a position of power (unique indispendable critical skill) and in order to prevent violence breaking down (people getting hurt/dying due to lack of Mike's skill... or Mike getting hurt by the others withholding their skills from him) a female mate is provided. In a desert island scenario it's unrealistic not to consider caveman social structures.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 08:30 AM
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women always have it worse than men no matter what If they don't think that's the case, why are they feminist? Maybe they don't realise they're secretly Marxists deep down.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 08:27 AM
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I hang around a lot of feminists IRL. There are a couple of dudes who are alright and get a bit pissed off by dislikeable unpleasant neocon pols. There are a couple of women who seem to mostly be along for the ride. And then there are the women who legitimately express hate to men and tend to lead the crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 08:23 AM
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That's a false equivalence. You can (rightfully) support plenty of women's issues but not be a feminist and plenty of people ride that bus. Things like classist social distinctions, misguided enthusiasm and an unpleasant sprinkling of misandry but many feminists still don't understand why others think men have to lack self respect to buy into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 08:21 AM
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Ok cool that's great, so what does feminism have to say about guys who try to distance themselves from toxic masculinity but feel worthless because they can't get a girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 08:07 AM
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Self actualisation requires dominance and control over aspects of your life. And I'm not sure what cultures you're looking at where masculinity isn't traditional linked to self worth in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 08:06 AM
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The ratio of male : female commenters is pretty telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 08:01 AM
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(Also, it's "feminists of color" not "colored feminists"... JFC) What's the difference lel, is the first one trendier?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 07:59 AM
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Actually yes. Problem is seeking it out is a recipe for us to be abused or misused and have our time + money wasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 07:48 AM
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I don't think OP's scenario is realistic. He created it to highlight a specific problem with modern society that RP observes and attempts to address. I brought up Flies because I consider it a more realistic instance of the scenario in which OP's hypothetical assumes that each member has intrinsic skills valuable to the microsociety which help keep it in balance (and then the sexual mismatch throws it out of balance). Flies also starts out with the premise that each member of the microsociety ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 07:44 AM
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A lot of what-ifs. Interesting you brought up Having the women be useless freeloaders is a different scenario. Because this was actually tried on the Survivor TV show - men and women were split up on different islands then after a week(s?) a few members of each tribe swapped islands. Quite enjoyable in a Red Pill sort of way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 07:27 AM
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A group of young boys get marooned on a jungle island. It's directly applicable even if the dynamics are slightly different (the oldest boys were in puberty).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 07:25 AM
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Arranged marriages have been happening for thousands of years. The whole point of them happening was to ensure social cohesion and stability. They were far from ideal from a libertarian perspective but they existed for a reason and the concept only started breaking down in post-industrial almost-post-scarcity environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 07:24 AM
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I think they're both end game scenarios. Even if not suicidal, depression can remove all motivation and make that person a burden on everyone else thus endangering the whole group. Go watch or read Lord of the Flies. What caused the breakdown of their society was the breakdown in social dynamics due to mismatched interpersonal relationships even though they originally started out in a communal/democratic team based structure similar to our hypothetical situation in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 07:21 AM
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I don't think it's a realistic scenario that each other person happens to have a specific critical skillset that is cannot be done reproduced by the others. Shelter is as easy as piling up some logs and leaves or finding a cave. The only hard part about cooking is building a fire which can (and should) be taught easily. In fact everyone's best chance to survive is by teaching each other what they know so they can all pull their weight equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 07:00 AM
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Or he could find and cook his own food. Which is the most likely scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 05:25 AM
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The OP's hypothetical is off. Services will always be debatably "necessary" (what if one person only ever washes clothes and cleans up after meals?). Your question is about whether the social dynamic of the group can be a cohesive long term one. 4 asexual/low libido people will probably be happy going without sex their entire stay, or Mike could be the only asexual one and be comfortable in that dynamic. In theory a person should be able to be reasonably self sufficient anyway and most of the se…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 05:23 AM
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The exchange for different services will be asymmetrical as comparative worth will depend on subjective viewpoints. The men could hypothetically be risking themselves to hunt dangerous beasts all day while the women cook and clean (or vice versa). Over time the arrangement may also turn out to be unsatisfactory for some participants and they may want to renegotiate the deal. Going from a healthy sex life to being stuck on a desert island for 10 years while your other companions are happily getti…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 05:18 AM
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With only 4 people the genetic line is already fucked. It's probably better off letting them end.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 05:15 AM
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Lack of emotional/physical intimacy will definitely cause emotional trauma in most people and can lead to suicide. Especially if they're surrounded by others who achieve it with ease.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 05:10 AM
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Is it not moral to reduce suffering?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 01:50 AM
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Careful, they might be forced to admit that instituting class delineation perpetuates classism!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 01:48 AM
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There was also the small issues of widescale economic mismanagement and corrupt distribution processes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 01:47 AM
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It's "second wave TERFers" all the way down if they go against the orthodoxy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 01:46 AM
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Idk if I am a feminist, I kind of agree with Marxist Feminism Some people call themselves feminist to be trendy, or as a stance for some basic morals. Then you have the Marxist toolset for modelling societies and gender, which is the other kind of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 01:45 AM
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I'll label blues as purple. Because tbh I think it's pretty hard for reasonable people to disagree with core RP stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 01:43 AM
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RP women are self actualised. Does that mean they're feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 01:43 AM
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Feminism as dating strategy for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 01:41 AM
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There's nothing wrong with recognising some people are more attractive than others. It's entirely subjective though - you might just be applying other peoples standards to your own game which is another issue. Don't let self esteem hold you back if you meet someone awesome. Don't arbitrarily restrict yourself to dating some groups of people if you think there are better ones out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 01:38 AM
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I get really turned on by girls who have similarities to my exes in how they look That's not a good thing. They're exes for a reason and trying to recapture that never ends well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 11:59 PM
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rip whipped
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 11:55 PM
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Yeah it's non creepy low key stalking though. I just see your posts and go "That guy sounds pretty cool, I want to wear his skin for a while"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 11:55 PM
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Whoa that was a very sudden political swerve. I bet you've got your links to whatever the RP right subreddit is too. There probably are attraction models and personality types which aren't directly relevant to an RP mindset, and there are parts of RP which are only interested in some personality types over others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 02:21 PM
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Doubt it and no. You might just be unsure about your preferences. Hit the gym, cement your confidence by believing in abundance, don't forget your confidence and it will be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 02:06 PM
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It's good to be a god and get the choice :D
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:48 PM
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Ian Fleming wrote James Bond as a master of frame. Personally one of the more jarring ways the movies tended to make him unrealistic was how often women or other characters would perfectly set him up for cheesy one liners. You don't start a beginner there, and expect good outcomes. Believe it or not RP often marks out what is beginner level and what is advanced. Holding frame is basic, amused mastery is a more advanced part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:47 PM
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What's with your flair here dude, are you in stealth mode?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:39 PM
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Time to get some freshies in. We need some more front page TRP drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:38 PM
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I'm just postin cos I stalk you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:37 PM
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What if it was 1 supermodel 10 times though? And there was 9 more waiting in line if you got tired of her before #10?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:29 PM
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All of this cold, calculating sexual strategy I see him displaying really puts me off, and makes me think he's just an insecure ass. If he's secure enough in his sexuality then he doesn't care you know. If he's insecure about you knowing then he's not far into RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:28 PM
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You think RP doesn't do character studies? But that's the lowest hanging fruit you could be railing away at :P RP and RPW aren't ideal to compare because they are both inherently gendered perspectives - we can compare men and women to delineate our gendered sense of identity but in terms of individual or overall outcomes we have different (gendered) drives and goals which aren't better or worse from a gender independent perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:21 PM
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Movies an illusion? What? They do tend to reflect real life to an extent but it's never going to be 1:1 Your analysis of RP advice relies on wilful misinterpretation. Your complaint that the RP "Amused Mastery" only results in an arrogant smirk specifically ignores the sources you link which explains how and why to avoid an arrogant smirk.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:14 PM
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You went from "its impossible" to "its possible under the right circumstances" so thanks I think we're good here. We just disagree on how difficult it is. And you must really struggle in social situations if you don't know how to smile without looking like a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 12:54 PM
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Of course they're free to do what they like. They're free to ride the carousel as long as it will have them, and eventually it will rip them off into lonely middle age with escalating self esteem issues and everything that entails. There's still a life there but its a difficult and unpleasant adjustment process. We have a responsibility to our children to instill in them positive, self respecting values which minimise the damage there.
/r/TheRedPill20/05/17 07:53 AM
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You didn't bother reading those posts, just ctrl-f'd smirk. From the first one: What you're looking for is a smirk. That James Bond / George Clooney / Bruce Willis half-smile. They're smiling more with their face and eyes than with their lips. What movies have you been watching where James Bond / George Clooney plays a smirking villain? Second post: Throw that term away right now, because you don’t want to be “aloof”. Roissy made this distinction a couple years ago; there’s a difference between …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 05:48 AM
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RPW has different aims and strategies to RP so it's kind of ignorant to try comparing them. Judging by all the happy Red Pill Wives posting to that subreddit they seem successful though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 05:39 AM
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Is the wolf immoral to hunt the elk? Is the fox immoral for killing the rabbit in its burrow? A lot of criticism of RP declares that what we do is manipulative and therefore dishonest. Every RPer is told what we do is a mindset and a lifestyle to live by. As soon as you treat it like a facade, you start to drop it and you start to lose it. There is no dishonesty in honestly changing yourself to present a new person. There is no immorality in seeking healthy, adult relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 12:01 AM
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Don't forget all the 9s and 10s on there purely for validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 11:58 PM
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Ah the old "I know Red Pill better than the guys who subscribe and post there so I don't need to actually explain why I'm better and they're automatically wrong." You got some issues bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 11:57 PM
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No-one knew Robert Fischer was RP until internet detectives got on his case, cyberstalked him and launched a political witch hunt. Example failed. You sure talk some big game for someone changing argument every post. Please, find me where RP recommends arrogant smirking to be worn 24/7 when attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 11:55 PM
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Lol nice one. Actually most people probably dont know or care about BP/RP, so we have more or less equal claim to the uneducated masses depending on who is the more convincing over the next few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 09:32 AM
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You have an inherently gendered perspective which leads you to misunderstand the "competition over collaboration" angle. For men, we collaborate by competing. We drive each other to improve through friendly competition which is why we insult each other without meaning it - and there is the peer pressure to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 09:07 AM
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(which is the majority of humanity) Is that a subtle "there's more of us therefore we're right" jab?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 09:05 AM
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Try it and see if it works for yourself. Surely hundreds of thousands of men wouldn't be collectively lying and deluding themselves with more joining them every year?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 06:58 AM
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If you're constantly experiencing difficulties with other people, maybe the cause is in yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 06:45 AM
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So none, or else you can't decide which ones actually look like serious concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 06:42 AM
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I am not saying all of them are like that. Am I just like them? You're the best person to answer that. And recognising the way people are around you is the first step to becoming introspective and improve yourself for the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 06:41 AM
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I'd be interested to hear from men just how often they hear women make the "I'm not a feminist claim" Caught one on Tinder just the other week. Didn't go anywhere, but eh
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 06:02 AM
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I think you're grasping at straws. How many anime villain cosplays have you seen in real life outside of conventions? And it's probably pointless to discuss average peak female attractiveness being reached in the early 20s or the nuances of why dread game is not recommended for inexperienced RPers or how summing up frame as a frozen look of "amused mastery" kind of misses the point... You just sound like someone who has read furiously into RP theory trying to find as many problems with it as you…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 05:33 AM
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You probably don't know many redpill men. Or more than you realise, but you don't actually realise. We have safety on the internet to discuss our ideas and progress in pseudonymity. We never reveal ourselves in real life due to the stigma and you will never be able to accurately spot us because the things we preach produce successful, socially integrated and stable individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 09:21 PM
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RP advocates more self awareness than Gaston. Did you even read the post? It describes 8 different pairing types as well as the different dynamics, 3 of which are clearly described as positive outcomes. Of those 3, only 1/3 contains a submissive woman. The top comment also says I just wanted to stress that there is no 'ideal' because ultimately these things are all diagnostic tools that allow users to identify what they are personally, and the dynamic of their relationship in order to better und…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 01:54 PM
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Somewhere, someone planted a seed What do you think it was that prompted it the ghosting?
/r/TheRedPill18/05/17 07:05 AM
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I'd be terrified of becoming emotionally invested in a women if my entire life I had been surrounded by men who invested emotionally into manipulative and abusive women who betrayed that investment and hurt their male partners. That is not every man's experience or perception because not all women are like that, but it is for some. I'm not sure what your point is by linking that RPW post. It seems pretty good to me and nicely complements RP philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 06:39 AM
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I see you've been trained in high level feminist rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 06:21 AM
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If you were raised in a stable family environment where you had good enough role models to do avoid failing at school/career, you never experienced significant social issues/anxiety/bullying and you have at least a little romantic success then you will be unlikely to see anything validating RP on a personal level. There are a hundred little indicators that push people towards RP, and many BPers will quite happily admit some core truths about RP (such as your own admissions towards self actualisa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 06:19 AM
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No. Men who fail to receive physical and emotional intimacy undergo major self esteem issues. We see it all the time in male Blue Pillers who are romantically unsuccessful - except they internalise it by blaming it on external expectations despite being immersed in anti-male feminist narratives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 05:56 AM
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I'm stereotyping.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 01:06 PM
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High divorce rates, high rates of unequal custody, extremists on both sides of the culture war trying to turn it into a gender war.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 11:47 AM
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There are beta traits which are not ideal for attracting a physical partner, there are alpha traits which are not ideal for supporting a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 11:43 AM
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Applying any set of standards, values or behaviours to relationships and sex is functionally equivalent to applying a "strategy." When BPers advocate "don't be shitty" "don't manipulate partners into sex" "respect your partner/be nice to your partner" they are advocating strategies for approaching relationships. They're often shit strategies (although I'm endlessly amused by the number of BPers that unknowingly advocate subtle RP truths). That doesn't mean they don't fit the definition. Alpha wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 10:41 AM
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BP is an unconscious ideology observed by RP, which some critics of RP willingly adopt. A BP mindset generally advocates that men should avoid alpha traits (for whatever reason) and willingly adopt beta traits (sometimes saying beta traits are a more successful sexual strategy).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 09:10 AM
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BP is a categorisation constructed by RP based on observable attitudes from feminists or beta males. Some erstwhile BPers willingly adopt the label in an attempt to mock RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 09:08 AM
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RP says an AB male is actually the peak level of male development so it's advocated to switch from A to AB if you want to enter a healthy long term relationship (assuming you find the right girl). Due to prevalence of BP/feminist mindsets, being an AB male also makes you vulnerable to abuse which is why it's not recommended until you find the right girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 09:06 AM
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Submissive, emotionally invested, provider mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 09:04 AM
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You seem to be implying seeking out consensual casual sex plus relationships is being a shitbag.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 09:04 AM
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"She's not into you, it's just your turn" Oh, RP knows that women are using men this way. Knows it well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 01:02 AM
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We don't have a patriarchy in America anymore Hahahah ahhh. Probably true. Some would violently disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:51 AM
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According to BP that's "seeking validation" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 04:08 AM
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Key point: Sex itself isn't the end goal and RP teaches this. The biological imperative comes from primal urges to defeat rivals then court/seduce the female. There is additional overlap with the urge to stalk, kill and consume prey. Mazlowe's heirarchy complements this by presenting the mid rung needs for physical/romantic companionship, self expression and self determination (including sexual). Seeking validation is a misdirected attempt to achieve those mid rung needs, which RP describes as "…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 04:06 AM
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Idiocracy is uncomfortably real sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 09:09 PM
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Big trucks in the middle of the night Wallace and Gromit style. We need a sheepdog whistleblower!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 09:07 PM
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"I like my women like I like my beef, free range" lel
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 09:05 PM
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It's much less than men and manifests differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 09:03 PM
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Historically, male birthes have risen slightly during wartime and female births risen slightly during peacetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 02:22 PM
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sexual validation Men have a biological imperative to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 02:15 PM
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DINK? And having a preference does not mean it's exclusive. If intelligent women become inclined to forgo relationships, then intelligent men will just start seeking out less intelligent women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 02:11 PM
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I heard Peeple was going to be a thing in the US, but I don't know if it took off. It was essentially a professional version of this
/r/TheRedPill15/05/17 08:44 AM
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Ironically hard to find Marxists who don't also identify as radical feminists.
/r/TheRedPill15/05/17 08:34 AM
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Shame. It's hard to draw a line between social dynamics and politics for some people :P
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 08:19 AM
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But I thought jedi were forbidden to love?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 08:18 AM
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Sure. There's actually some interesting, respectful discussions about social dynamics and the interplay with politics there. You seem to be under a few assumptions though such as how the patriarchy is actually harmful to society or that women's sexual liberation wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 08:11 AM
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Yes. I'm not suggesting it's bad from an evolutionary standpoint because it's obviously passed the Darwin test. Just suggesting it's an outlier. If there's a demographic shift where a significant proportion of males start willingly excluding themselves from the gene pool, we're going to see some major social shifts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 08:01 AM
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Whew, there's that meme that Hillary was a left wing candidate again.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 07:58 AM
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I'm on the subreddit. People talking about politics are downvoted, dismissed. The blogs on the sidebar are all talking about sexual strategy. Maybe there's some political articles in there from some contributors, but that's pretty off topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 07:57 AM
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I don't really care either way, but as the person making the claim it's your responsibility to back it up :p and as people pointed out elsewhere, there are plenty of left wing RPers (ex. A yours truly)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 07:53 AM
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Relax fella. Politics are transitory. Evo psych can't be changed through a couple of angry protests :P
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 07:52 AM
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My understanding of Asian immigration is that a disproportionate part of it (comparatively speaking) is tourism or international schooling, so we're seeing less demographic shift from immigration from highly educated Asian countries, whereas for third world immigration (African and Middle Eastern) it tends to be for longer term economic/SES purposes. And of course third world migrants are coming from much lower SES backgrounds which contributes towards greater strain on the western social securi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 07:51 AM
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There are always exceptions. I read a fascinating article about how homosexuality can be spotted in insects and animals and hasn't been "bred out" over generations... the theory being that male homosexuality from an evolutionary standpoint functions as a secondary carer for the offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 07:40 AM
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(IllimitableMan has admitted race realism is red pill) You keep repeating that. I'm pretty sure it's not true or you're taking it out of context... chuck us a link bruz?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 12:19 AM
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There are a few purple pills who lean red too. It's like a spectrum m'dude. Some people can only take the tablet by crushing it up with honey.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 12:15 AM
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TRP calls things absolute truths without actually meaning it 80% of the time a TRPer gives advice to another it has a disclaimer along the lines of "this worked for me, it might not work for you." RP veterans have said time and again that the things they embody in TRP have stood them true for decades, and they never believe new advice without heavily testing it first.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 12:12 AM
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r/theredpillright has about 1% of the subscribers of TRP. It's not reeeeally about politics is it? Anyway apparently it's not obvious to you that TRP is more than sexual strategy. It's a lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 12:08 AM
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I'm not sure what your point is. 30 years is far too small to have an effect on a macroeconomic scale, and even demographic crises (such as 50% of the population being to old to reproduce... like the way Japan and Australia are going...) barely begin to play out over that scale. But if a woman is going to pursue an educated high tech career, that's going to place barriers towards her having kids. She's almost self selecting herself out of the gene pool unless she pops them out and hands them off…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 11:59 PM
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starting from little girls playing with baby dolls Girl children unexposed to gendered stereotypes about toys will naturally gravitate to plush creature toys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 03:13 PM
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Equally, if we don't support intelligent, working women who add to society having children and force them to choose between having a career and having kids, then we put ourselves in the situation of breeding out intelligence. The human race will literally worsen. Several thousand years of human society and technology would like to have a word with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 03:11 PM
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Social cues can be small and easy to miss. The simplest and easiest one to spot is - is she laughing? Even if it's a "this guy is a retard" type laugh, it still means she finds you funny. And if you don't care whether anyone thinks you're a retard, that means you're confident. Women are attracted to confident men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 05:20 AM
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My theory is that their aversion is just to unsuccessful and genetically inferior males. Seems about accurate tbh. Except women's checks for whether you are an "ideal mate" or not is entirely subjective - mostly subconscious - generally the same - and you can learn how to fake your way through. Mentality does not matter Mentality determines your attitude. Women's attraction to men is based almost entirely on their attitude. If you have a mentality that says "I can get any woman I want" that will…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 05:17 AM
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Why deal with all of that when I can find ways to reduce my chances of getting rejected? Steel your heart my friend. Shield it from the world, and guard it as your most precious possession. Then get out there and approach some women! As long as you don't give out your heart to any girl who gives you the time of day, you will be fine. To get over that hurdle of social anxiety and "nothing to talk about" just grab some common interests. Literally, find some women in your yoga class and start askin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 05:12 AM
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90% of that was decent RP advice. I think you've tagged yourself incorrectly. Hang on... For example you could try setting up a Tumblr and look for feminist chicks in your area. There are probably some lonely ones that would love to show a sexy middle eastern man how to treat women in America. Setting up a Tumblr to score dates? Yeah nah. Popular blue pill rhetoric but that never works (wonder if that's related?). White liberal women also tend to avoid Middle Eastern or Asian men on the dating s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 05:04 AM
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It's auditory meditation/massage. Most common form is videos of people whispering on youtube, which you listen to while falling asleep.
/r/TheRedPill14/05/17 04:30 AM
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You don't see much RP talk about RPW because there are relatively few, so RP-friendly long term relationships are equally rare. So we make do with the world the way it is. It's called the "Red Pill" because RP sees society the way it really is. If western society flipped back to primarily traditional nuclear families, hypergamy dropped off, or sexual liberation decreased, then RP would adjust as well. RPW model a role-playing trad-femininity. If you have to role play it, it didn't come naturally…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 04:21 AM
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That shows, tbh, you don't actually know what RP or RPW philosophy is. RP, on the subject of marriage and long term relationships, seeks out traditional feminine women as being the most stable and trustworthy partners for raising their kids. RPW advocates traditional femininity in a way to attract the highest status man to provide a strong role model and well off environment for raising their kids. Sleeping around a lot damages that self identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 11:30 PM
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Yeah sure and Hillary supporters could all just be paid provocateurs. By the way, ever hear of Red Pill Women? It's not all men these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 10:54 AM
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Men who, in 2017, relied on the strategy of whoring around during their young years and then thinking they could easily get 25 year old hotties when they hit 35-40 will get a rude awakening. There's plenty of successful RPers in their 30s and 40s. Is this a "you lose" post? No! It's a "wake up, reds" post. Build yourself a fantastic life. Do amazing things. RP advocates this already, generally speaking. Don't get mired down in bitterness and thoughts of revenge on women who didn't want you when …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 07:56 AM
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that she peaks early--often as young as 20 in the opinion some posters Try late 20s. You're flat out wrong here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:52 PM
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and that TRP idea that the most attractive women for a man is some 16 year old farm girl, is a load of baloney Lol, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:41 PM
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