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x-trp-x/r/ExRedPill27/06/19 05:13 PM
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First there were cities and large scale civilization: many people, infinite sexual options. Religion and social mores and authoritarianism was needed to keep sexual promiscuity, jealousy violence, and abandoned children from ruining the overall productivity and stability of society. Then there was industrialization: a surplus of goods made the traditional agrarian family less critical. Jobs became less tied to survival. The world economy enveloped the national economy. Then there was liberalism:…
/r/ExRedPill03/09/19 04:03 PM
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Women love artists. And I'd say the more interesting ones like them more than athletes - at any age. Nothing inherently beta about art. A hot artist who works out will beat an average athlete 10 times out of 10.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/19 10:09 PM
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So in this scenario, does it matter if the woman gave up her career or if the couple had children at all? Or is it presumed that the woman is owed by the man? Seems like a bunch of bullshit to me
/r/ExRedPill16/08/19 12:56 AM
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Are you still with the girl that triggered this? Did you get over while still in a relationship? I'm starting to feel like I just need to give up and break up - every day this feeling haunts me
/r/ExRedPill26/07/19 06:15 AM
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Yeah, good advice. I find when I treat her like a partner rather than an object that I own it gets easier.
/r/ExRedPill25/07/19 01:11 AM
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Appreciate the support. ​ Regardless of how I've tried to reframe these beliefs, it still sucks to think about "my girl" sucking off and fucking a bunch of other people. Makes me want to give up on monogamy altogether.
/r/ExRedPill24/07/19 01:51 PM
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You still don’t get it re: evolution. The only reason the single called organisms who sensed light passed on their genes is because they survived and the others died. If we all decided to cut one arm off, our children would still have two arms. Current behavior has no effect on your genes. There is no trickle down from our behavior. Also: no guy wants a promiscuous woman for a long term relationship. Does your partner know the extent of your past? If not, why do you hide it? I bet he doesn’t lik…
/r/ExRedPill17/07/19 07:37 PM
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Well, societal/cultural "evolution" is different than biological evolution - memes vs genes - but OK. Changing our brains by learning/training isn't going to affect our progeny - that's not evolution - our children are going to have the same brain structures of our ancestors, regardless of how much brain training you apply. That's really interesting - I was a biology major and knew that roughly - but haven't thought of it the way you framed it. I do feel the irrational fear - as do most humans -…
/r/ExRedPill17/07/19 03:51 PM
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You don't have to tell them you're a virgin. I think your best bet is to watch some videos online to get the basics. Find a sweet ugly girl who will be patient that you're comfortable with and just take it real slow. Focus on your own pleasure, not making her happy (at least at first).
/r/ExRedPill17/07/19 01:26 AM
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Well, it's not my definition, it's the dictionary definition. If we're discussing concepts we need to agree on what words mean. You can't just co-opt "evolution" to mean some magical stuff you believe in and conflate non-heritable traits with heritable traits. That's pretty good advice. Maybe I'm just miserable and self-hating at my core, so external things (women, money, success, adventure, "spirituality") feel like the only way out. So you think human nature (like without consciously changing …
/r/ExRedPill17/07/19 12:22 AM
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Maybe move to a city when you get divorced. Have low expectations at first. Yeah, wasn't married. Why would anyone married have plates? Fuck that - seems like terrible karma. Yeah, I guess I don't really see the point of male friendships a lot of the time. Like: what do we have in common besides a hobby or a bad habit (e.g. drinking)? Not really a basis for a true bonding friendship.
/r/ExRedPill16/07/19 03:18 PM
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Again, you don't quite understand heritable traits. Blue eyes = a genetic mutation in an individual's genes that will be passed on. Neuroplasticity = the individual changes but the changes aren't heritable - that's not evolution, that's just individual changes. The rest I agree with. And it seems like we both agree life has no meaning and no inherent purpose. "metaphysical manifestation of consciousness" - I mean, maybe from a human perspective. Again, there is no evidence that the universe care…
/r/ExRedPill16/07/19 03:13 PM
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I don't know. Back when I was posting on TRP regularly I legitimately was spinning 4-8 attractive plates at a time, making 200K+, had a great friend group and was setting PRs in the gym. Granted I was still insecure as hell and validation-seeking, but saying that some reported success is impossible is a limiting belief. TRP has some toxic stuff, but where else can guys talk seriously and 100% politically incorrect?
/r/ExRedPill16/07/19 07:19 AM
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Well, in scientific terms: no, evolution is the change in a species over generations - changes in heritable characteristics - so learning doesn't qualify. Yeah, I agree with what you're saying: the pipeline of thoughts/emotions -> behavior as having faulty filters. But some of those filters are deeply ingrained in our instincts as humans and we will suffer (worry/anxiety/depression) if we resist in my experience. Consciousness isn't anything special or "ultimate" - it's just not well understood.…
/r/ExRedPill16/07/19 03:21 AM
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Ok so you’ve read some quantum highlights: what does this have to do with your emotional state at any given moment? Well I’m willing to bet if you had a child that drive would kick in. But sure, there’s plenty of variability in all instinctual reactions. Different mating strategies, different ways to benefit the group. I don’t want kids either, but I’m sure I’d love my own. That’s not evolution, that’s getting older and learning and having the various systems of your body (hormones, etc) change …
/r/ExRedPill15/07/19 10:52 PM
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I don’t think you understand how evolution works. The drive is to have sex and care for children, not have children directly. We have not “evolved” past anything biologically. Maybe socially or scientifically but not biologically and emotionally. Yeah that’s a nice fantasy to believe in zen and infinite awareness and consciousness. Certainly we can convince ourselves of many things to make us happier and less afraid of reality and death. Also I’m willing to bet you don’t know anything about quan…
/r/ExRedPill15/07/19 09:28 PM
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I wonder if your very unattractive male friends have feelings for you? Hmm. Be honest. No. Our genes care about the survival and reproduction of our progeny and our siblings progeny. So humans past the point of reproduction are still involved in the reproduction game (aka life) by caring for their family and group.
/r/ExRedPill15/07/19 05:47 PM
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Jesus. Seems like you tried. That sounds terrible. She either hates you or is incapable of a relationship. Either way: Get out as soon as possible.
/r/ExRedPill15/07/19 04:52 PM
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Think about it this way: how often do you see a very attractive heterosexual man hanging out with an ugly female as friends? Or a very attractive female with an ugly man?
/r/ExRedPill15/07/19 04:49 PM
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I think you missed a big point of TRP. It sounds like a lot of the focus was on yourself: setting boundaries, working out, having more sex, making sure you had enough money to leave, etc. You were taking control away from your wife but were you then taking the lead? Saying "no" is only the first step. The second step is saying "I got this, don't worry, I've decided we're doing X, Y and Z and I'll handle all the details." You have to be her leader, almost like a father figure. Taking control away…
/r/ExRedPill15/07/19 02:27 PM
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In my experience, a male-female non-familial heterosexual relationship always has a sexual component. Sometimes you can have a friendly and healthy/fun relationship regardless; sometimes you casually hookup once in a while; but it's never non-sexual and it usually falls apart due to feelings. I've slept with or had an opportunity to sleep with all my female friends and I'm glad my girlfriend has no male friends outside of work.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/19 12:48 AM
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What sciency sounding things? That the instinct to have sex is tied to the function of procreation which involves DNA? I'm not side stepping the point - yes, the ideology feeds fears - the exact fear that you exactly outlined in your own experiences: sex with the hot guy, settling with the stable good-parent guy - so maybe those fears are legitimate? ​ Most men have a provider inside of them - they want to give everything (even their lives sometimes) to some idealized princess - and in return fe…
/r/ExRedPill11/07/19 01:32 AM
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Yes, of course I understand the sexual revolution. I was more asking: is there evidence that women without birth control actually have sex with less men and less frequently? Like in hunter gatherer groups or 3rd world countries or places without strong religious/cultural mores against premarital sex? attraction is capable of having nothing at all to do with parenthood. Attraction can be the absolute opposite of someone being genetically appropriate for offspring. Yeah, but that's in your cogniti…
/r/ExRedPill11/07/19 01:09 AM
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Without protection from pregnancy, women's choices become much more circumscribed, limited, and much less free. They're not able to choose in the way were talking about. Is there evidence of this? On some level, when I have sex with a woman, my brain has decided that she is good enough to impregnate. Isn't there the same for women? Isn't that what attraction is? I would assume that having sex with some man for the orgasm even if you're not attracted to him would cause some cognitive dissonance s…
/r/ExRedPill09/07/19 05:37 PM
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Every response in this thread has been helpful, but this is the one that most cut to the core of the matter. Very appreciative of you taking the time to write this all out - it has been helpful to ruminate on all this stuff. In fact, I think this is one of the most helpful things anyone has said to me in my entire life. I think this is the key to almost all of my issues - seeking validation through sex: Is there a possibility that you are using sex, women and femininity as a tool to fight your o…
/r/ExRedPill02/07/19 02:15 AM
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Thanks for the response. Even if it is harder for men to get sex that doesn't make the doing so "better." Well, it's better in the sense that they are chosen by a woman over other men and therefore validated as worthy of love (or at least that's the subconscious narrative). ...but learning about someone in particular. Totally - a much healthier and realistic way of looking at it - although sometimes people just want to get off too. ...also not true that most people are only looking for sex. It's…
/r/ExRedPill02/07/19 01:52 AM
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By what code of values Well (again, devil's advocate), biologically speaking, she allowed a man who wouldn't stick around to possibly inseminate/impregnate her? But beyond that, yes, I see your point - I'm letting others impose their value system on to me due to fear. Real men are heroes to women not villains - the only person who hates a white knight is a man who hates himself - red pill may have served that younger boy for a time being but that thinking is no longer serving you. It’s time to m…
/r/ExRedPill02/07/19 01:41 AM
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Just try to see sex as a gift, a token of trust, instead of a game of power and deception. It is - well said.
/r/ExRedPill02/07/19 01:37 AM
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You are the man she choose. Not just some fling. Thank you. It feels much better to have that perspective and you're right. Ultimately, is the ideal having a mentality where your self worth is completely irrespective of being chosen or not?
/r/ExRedPill02/07/19 01:36 AM
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you still see women as objects to a certain extent. Totally. Excellent and true insight. I love her, but there is a sexual/objectifying side for sure. In fact, the more I objectify her as some sexual ideal, the more it hurts to think that other men objectified her and had her physically. If I can see her as a full human and not just a sexual object, the connection and love become much important. It's like the Madonna/whore dichotomy: objectify some women, and love others. And when you choose to …
/r/ExRedPill02/07/19 01:33 AM
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You might not think it's in your own nature to seek out things that will hurt you, but your brain is a tricky critter that likes to organize the world around it based on tools you give it, so if you gave it a lot of sharp, pointy tools, your life will match suit. If you gave it a lot of tools that classify and organize men and women into statuses and biology and animal mating rituals, then yep, you're going to get all that TRP bullshit they warn you about because it's what you've wired yourself …
/r/ExRedPill02/07/19 01:29 AM
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We actually have the same reproductive equipment it’s just arranged differently. Our clitoris is what would have been a penis, our out labia is literally made of the same material as your ballsack. Thank you. I knew this in theory, but never think about it - it does certainly make the point clear. And it definitely helps to think of it in this way There is a lot of objectifying going on, I agree. Another fucked up TRP tenant is that women like to be objectified (which, for the record, I believe …
/r/ExRedPill02/07/19 01:21 AM
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Thank you for the comprehensive response. Of course she thought those relationships were good when she was in them and then recognized their flaws when she decided to end them. That's how decision-making works. You're right. TRP teaches you to distrust women's facades and their "emotional thinking" - but this makes complete sense - and of course I have the same experiences and made similar decisions, it makes no sense to think it would be totally different for her.
/r/ExRedPill02/07/19 01:17 AM
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healthy and self-validating forms of masculinity So would you say that it's inherently unhealthy to feel validation should it come from a partner choosing you? What would self-validating look like? TRP is about getting what you want from women (validation) but on "your terms" - the problem is not just that validation seeking is everything you said (needy, ironic, etc.), but also that "your terms" objectifies another human being and precludes any true connection or vulnerability. Sure some woman …
/r/ExRedPill02/07/19 01:11 AM
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Thank you. I've read this comment many times and I agree that TRP is a victim mentality. They constantly repeat the refrain "enjoy the decline" - like they can't get what they want so they will just selfishly take and be miserable about it. TRP has no solution or path for a loving, honest relationship. Women are not the the holders or withholders of a good or service that a man has to win or earn. You have to understand that unless you grew up as one of the most attractive young men in your envi…
/r/ExRedPill02/07/19 01:04 AM
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Thank you. Yes, one thing I realize TRP has instilled in me is a very low, untrusting opinion of men: e.g. that they just want to use and toss women aside as objects. But men are people, people are complex and everyone wants love ultimately in some form or another. and she’s now found a “loser beta” to settle with The thing is that I've sort of witnessed this happen to a few of the women I slept with. They get married or in a relationship with someone far less attractive than me but who can prov…
/r/ExRedPill02/07/19 12:54 AM
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Yes, thank you - I think you're correct. I've always had anxiety and depression - but I'm disciplined and I manage it. I have always have had a chip on shoulder and anger particularly around navigating the male world - actually, I navigate it fine now, but I had a hard time during adolescence and it's stuck to my ego/psyche as an internalized inadequacy. Besides therapy (which I recently started for this) - how does one learn self-love and how to reframe competition and get a monkey like that of…
/r/ExRedPill02/07/19 12:41 AM
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Thank you - I know the 10 times figure sounds crazy - but this perspective shift is needed and it's nice to hear from a female. The men who were bad at sex, are still randoms to me because I never gave them the chance to become more. It is nonsensical to think that TRP preaches the opposite in a sense: hot sex = no commitment, boring sex = provider commitment. My experience has always been that after I have sex with a woman, 9 times out of 10 they want commitment - sometimes after a few weeks, b…
/r/ExRedPill02/07/19 12:36 AM
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Thank you for the thoughtful response. It is a very lucky hand. Evo psych is very seductive. As a human, you have unexplainable urges, self-destructive tendencies, unproductive worry - a lot of the time it feels like you are your own worst enemy - so when evo psych has a neat explanation for these things, it feels like such a relief: "ah, my pain is not my fault, it's just my genes". I do realize the divide between science and evo psych - and it's nice to hear it reinforced. In fact, many years …
/r/ExRedPill02/07/19 12:28 AM
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