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| 8 | Blackpillers: what has changed for you? | xBTx | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 09:27 PM |
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| 2 | I'll be saying this on the feminism sub tooYou'll be alright young sir. Keep off the internet in matters relating to the gender you are pursuing - it won't help | /r/MensRights | 28/11/23 12:34 PM |
| -4 | Another female teacher sexual predatorOh I see. No I think it's worse when it's a male teacher. If it's a female teacher it can still be bad but there's not the same physical power imbalance. That's what I meant by outdated opinion | /r/MensRights | 24/11/23 02:41 PM |
| -4 | Another female teacher sexual predatorI don't see it that way, but my opinion on male-female differences is outdated | /r/MensRights | 24/11/23 02:37 PM |
| -8 | Another female teacher sexual predatorRight! Male teacher is much worse | /r/MensRights | 24/11/23 01:59 PM |
| 2 | Another female teacher sexual predatorProbably that popularity of opinion changed in the last ten years. I agree with you though | /r/MensRights | 24/11/23 01:58 PM |
| -10 | Another female teacher sexual predatorNice | /r/MensRights | 24/11/23 01:56 PM |
| 1 | A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish.Well you've clearly thought about this a lot, and even if I don't think there's much to it that doesn't matter - if you find success with your partner in this philosophy nobody will be able to deny you. I will say it's getting a bit too hypothetical for me to come back with a counter at this point. No I don't think a woman's words are like Mike Tyson's fists would be to an untrained boxer, nor do I think a two people in the 21st century are likely to find contentment in an emotionally guarded re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 01:50 PM |
| 3 | A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish.I've been a bit short with you. I'm not disagreeing insofar as there's no disparity, but the implication seemed to be that the disparity in emotional intelligence leads to a disparity in ability to cause harm - which I hope I've argued is incorrect. >Also, I don't know if you fully read my posts, but the claim is that a woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish, not that he should be emotionally unavailable. The man can decide to be emotional on his own terms, but inherentl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 03:46 PM |
| 1 | A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish.Interesting. you're right in a specific case, which are the bad boys. Normal men literally just cannot do emotional jiu jutsu on the same sparring floor as women; even if he had malintent, his ability to carry out that malintent would get him floored by the woman's lifetime of practice in the arena of automatic emotional manipulation, and her practiced defense against it. So a woman knows a man well, and says, "Your dad's never going to love you because you're not successful" And then sometime l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 03:18 PM |
| 2 | A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish.Men v Women A woman opening up emotionally risks far less than a man opening up emotionally, for the simple fact that a majority of men simply do not have the same mental wiring that women do to map out their partner's entire emotional landscape in order to learn which buttons to press... because men tend towards living in the objective world of logic where everything is external, rules are rigid, and everything is colder and more transactional. Ok I buy that - in the aggregate women will have m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 02:28 PM |
| 3 | A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish.If man opens up emotionally then woman can exploit that. If woman opens up emotionally man can exploit that. Therefore men shouldn't open up emotionally to maintain upper hand and turn relationship into petty one-upmanship? Maybe you're talking specifically about short-medium term relationships, especially as you put desire as a primary need. If so then fair enough. If you mean long term relationships then I disagree - being emotionally dishonest with someone you spend a ton of time with will lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 01:37 PM |
| – | A thought experiment about gender relationshipsSeems more likely they'd be a predecessor to today's human male, eh? Except the online part | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 01:14 PM |
| – | A thought experiment about gender relationshipsFrom what I've read about the prison system, the 1:3 ratio of grog:man might be a bit of an underestimate in that population. To answer your question, the guys I think that fit your description are often (though obviously not entirely) in prison. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 01:13 PM |
| 1 | Has modern feminism ever helped men in some ways?Could you be more specific? I'm in Canada and can kind of think what you're talking about, but it might be more clear where you live | /r/MensRights | 20/11/23 11:09 PM |
| 2 | Most people who complain about the other gender problem can be solved if they drop out of datingCan't lose if you don't play, eh? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/23 07:19 PM |
| 7 | Has modern feminism ever helped men in some ways?Depends what you mean by modern feminism. I think the elevation of women in society has forced men to dig deeper than ever to succeed, as our traditional roles were no longer available by default - you have to earn them now. Thought even in that sense, it will leave a bunch of guys who don't elevate themselves by the wayside, so it could only said to be helpful in part. | /r/MensRights | 20/11/23 02:22 PM |
| 1 | if most women are attracted only by a tiny minority of top men, how most men find dates at least once in their lifetime?Cause it's not 80->20 | /r/MensRights | 19/11/23 06:57 PM |
| – | If you think money can't buy love, you don't know where to shopSeems sound. Success is attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 12:52 AM |
| 2 | Why aren't men attracted to Dark Triad traits in women?Yeah I think the analogy here is the dark triad doesn't work so well for guys if you're just some edgy dork. You've gotta throw in a little sex appeal. Similarly if the girl's at the bottom right of the hot crazy scale she's more likely in jail than out here homewrecking. Edit: I seem to have missed your point. Were the studies above looking at the dark triad in abstraction, or were they controlling other normal variables of attraction i.e. looks? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 06:14 PM |
| 2 | Why aren't men attracted to Dark Triad traits in women?Who knows ? it's just a single study of 250ish people. Analogously, guys use the hot crazy scale for girls that might fit the dark triad typing. Maybe there's a way to determine who does it more, but there's probably more interesting variables to isolate I.e. is a certain personality type drawn to dark triad people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 05:52 PM |
| 2 | Why aren't men attracted to Dark Triad traits in women?For more detail see the studies referenced at the bottom of this article Good idea From the second reference: "our final sample was of 267 (56% women; Mean Age = 34.49, SD = 11.78; 60% White/European Heritage, 29% Asian, 3% Latinx, 2% Black, 6% Other" But why haven't studies proven that men are also attracted to women with dark triad traits? Seems like this one did | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 05:41 PM |
| 3 | I don't want to judge but do we now have proof of girls' poor choices?Hot Crazy scale bro | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 11:13 PM |
| 1 | "sex isn't everything" means "I'm a cuck"Reply for u/OK_smile_60 in case you change your mind and unblock me I believe the phrase you used is: >What you have is two people fine not being I a romantic relationship anymore. It’s just a relationship, and it’s not anything either wants, it’s just easier to literally die at that point. My initial objection was that this was overly presumptuous. Now since we're both speaking hypothetically here, I'm going to assume you're basing this off of your experience with seniors - which I can't do muc… | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 02:32 PM |
| 1 | "sex isn't everything" means "I'm a cuck"This might all come down to a disagreement on definitions. You've said: We’re talking about romantic relationships, not people. A person dies without air, a romantic relationship does without sex. And in another thread (paraphrasing) 'Sex is a feature to every romantic relationship' Now I've seen most of the definitions don't include sex as a necessary feature of a romantic relationship, but I've seen one that did as well on Colliers. So starting off with that I'll address your other point a rom… | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 02:05 PM |
| 1 | "sex isn't everything" means "I'm a cuck"I'm sure whatever your point is makes good sense to you, but unless you share it my argument stands | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 01:45 PM |
| 0 | "sex isn't everything" means "I'm a cuck"If that were true menopause would come with a 100% divorce rate | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 01:26 AM |
| 1 | "sex isn't everything" means "I'm a cuck"Only one of these things will kill you after a few minutes of their absence. The other day somebody compared sex to food and now I'm thinking it might be good to post Maslow's hierarchy on here... | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 12:20 AM |
| 1 | "sex isn't everything" means "I'm a cuck"Romantic is a synonym for sexual as you see it, then? | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 11:46 PM |
| 0 | "sex isn't everything" means "I'm a cuck"The point was not everyone can get an LTR, and I brushed him off cause he missed it - No bad faith intended. If you don't like my point of view then make a counterargument (this is supposed to be a debate sub after all) | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 10:50 PM |
| 1 | "sex isn't everything" means "I'm a cuck"I agree with the sentence I wrote above, not what was put in the OP | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 09:35 PM |
| 1 | "sex isn't everything" means "I'm a cuck"I agree with it being a normal biological process (not going to debate 'need'). My reaction was to the OP, whose use was a bit more obsessive than that | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 09:27 PM |
| -6 | "sex isn't everything" means "I'm a cuck"No doubt. Was challenging a statement the other fella made | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 09:21 PM |
| 2 | "sex isn't everything" means "I'm a cuck"Could be, but I think your biology is supposed to turn that off at a certain age if your psychology doesn't override it and turn you into a horny old goat. You could be right in that the horny old goat is the common outcome, in which case I'd maintain that it isn't normal. Otherwise how'd you explain happy old couples? Viagra? | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 09:03 PM |
| 1 | "sex isn't everything" means "I'm a cuck"nah people are in general naturally quite horny especially if they're in a happy relationship. Women were just taught for years they should suppress it and in more modern times men have been taught their sexual urges are something to be ashamed of I think that's part of it, for sure. It's part of the reason there's a masculinity problem with a lot of guys they've had it beaten over their heads they shouldn't talk to or look at women since they were kids and now they have no idea how to build att… | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 08:44 PM |
| -6 | "sex isn't everything" means "I'm a cuck"If anyone can get a LTR why does the blackpill exist? | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 08:19 PM |
| 0 | "sex isn't everything" means "I'm a cuck"Sure. I also think it'd kill less relationships if porn and porn-adjascent influencers didn't keep everyone so horny. | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 08:16 PM |
| 2 | "sex isn't everything" means "I'm a cuck"I agree with the general sentiment but think that's too absolute to apply to relationships that last more than a few years, and especially to couples who find success into old age. Though, to your point, iirc it's not too far behind money in the causes of divorce | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 07:09 PM |
| 1 | "sex isn't everything" means "I'm a cuck"Yeah that's about my thinking on it too. If it's been a while then there's an intense push to get it done. Then you get your fill and if you've got other things in life they'll suddenly seem more important | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 06:58 PM |
| 1 | "sex isn't everything" means "I'm a cuck"Sex is a feature to nearly every romantic relationship, and I suppose if you're both sex obsessed then it might become a primary feature. I also agree to its positive benefits as you've said. But considering how it's something that won't take more than a few hours out of your week (barring extreme cases) and do little to forward the rest of your life, I'm not sure why it would become a primary feature for most. To be fair anything could be 'the point' of a relationship if that's where your focus… | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 06:55 PM |
| 3 | Question for blackpillers. Do you have any aspirations or goals outside of mating and dating or have you just accepted your station and are waiting for it all to end? Can be anything short or long term.I'd imagine you're right. This thread is optimistic | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 06:33 PM |
| 3 | Question for blackpillers. Do you have any aspirations or goals outside of mating and dating or have you just accepted your station and are waiting for it all to end? Can be anything short or long term.I'd imagine it's a case by case sort of thing. | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 06:26 PM |
| 3 | Question for blackpillers. Do you have any aspirations or goals outside of mating and dating or have you just accepted your station and are waiting for it all to end? Can be anything short or long term.Thanks for sharing yours, as well. I'd like to find the limits of my physical potential, and support my family and community in that order. I'm out of the dating game and hope to keep it that way. | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 06:17 PM |
| 1 | It is late Saturday night and anyone reading this is an incelSounds promising | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 06:08 PM |
| 1 | It is late Saturday night and anyone reading this is an incelHaha that's the fight game for sure. I'm not sure it's ever been done different since Kimbo and Jorge were fighting in backyards in Florida | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 06:03 PM |
| 1 | It is late Saturday night and anyone reading this is an incelI saw Wonderboy on it one time hosting or something but hadn't followed up much. Good recc I'll check it out | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 06:01 PM |
| 9 | Question for blackpillers. Do you have any aspirations or goals outside of mating and dating or have you just accepted your station and are waiting for it all to end? Can be anything short or long term.Great thread. Good luck to you all | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 05:59 PM |
| -1 | "sex isn't everything" means "I'm a cuck"It seems bigger than it is when you focus on it to the exclusion of most other things | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 05:08 PM |
| 0 | "sex isn't everything" means "I'm a cuck"I can see how sex might seem like everything when you're not getting it and obsessing over it, reading forums full of guys not getting it and obsessing over it, and seeking confirmatory studies of why it's so important. In a relationship it's definitely a problem when it's not good. But thinking it's the only thing... Has anyone seen a healthy relationship with that mindset? Even anecdotally, I'm curious. To me this reads as a sort of self-justification for sex obsession. "I'm not sex obsessed b… | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 05:05 PM |
| 3 | Why is it always the least fuckable people who are the most vocal about feminism and calling dudes “iNcELs?”I literally specifically said I am not referring to actual incels, but the opposite. Just average-above average men voicing frustration with women’s inflated egos. These are not the “near peers” of these revolting blobs. Hmmm, ok. I'm not seeing the connection between this paragraph and the OP so not understanding your point The phenomenon you are referring to involves people treating their family/spouse worse than a total stranger. I know what you're talking about here, but this one's a bit dif… | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 10:29 PM |
| 4 | Why is it always the least fuckable people who are the most vocal about feminism and calling dudes “iNcELs?”Sure. here you go | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 06:54 PM |
| 18 | Why is it always the least fuckable people who are the most vocal about feminism and calling dudes “iNcELs?”There's a social theory that basically goes you're much crueler to your near peers (people just like you save one or two qualities) than you are your outgroup. It was on Tyler Cowens blog a while back I can probably dig it up, but if I recall correctly the jist of it is that's a form of projection. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 05:39 PM |
| 0 | Women are incapable of insulting attractive menCeteris paribus, you might be right. Hard to control for variables in hypotheticals though | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 12:34 PM |
| 2 | The undying trust in intellectualityBeautifully written | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 03:55 AM |
| 1 | There's literally nothing to do in life as an ugly short male?No lecturation without representation | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 03:09 AM |
| -1 | There's literally nothing to do in life as an ugly short male?'You must be this short to acquire street cred' is the word around here eh? | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 03:05 AM |
| -3 | There's literally nothing to do in life as an ugly short male?Bit taller than ol' Boney | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 03:02 AM |
| 1 | There's literally nothing to do in life as an ugly short male?Haha I thought the purpose of the OP was to reduce life to a single factor, but you're right Napoleon was a clever fella and probably at least some of that was genetic. I also think if he hung around on this forum you'd have never have heard of him. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 02:56 AM |
| 1 | There's literally nothing to do in life as an ugly short male?Well I appreciate you thinking about it a little. I suppose if we're assuming complete uselessness across the board and simplifying life to SMV you have a simple polarity that goes from good-looking sacks of shit to ugly sacks of shit. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 02:50 AM |
| 1 | There's literally nothing to do in life as an ugly short male?Who's telling anyone to be someone? The OP said short guys can't do shit. I said false and gave one of a few dozen examples | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 02:29 AM |
| 1 | There's literally nothing to do in life as an ugly short male?Same | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 02:25 AM |
| 1 | There's literally nothing to do in life as an ugly short male?I think he was actually a bit of a rebel taking short-haired portraits after kicking that wiggy bastard king out of the castle. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 01:40 AM |
| 1 | There's literally nothing to do in life as an ugly short male?Yes and I'm sure this was the defining factor in his legacy - hair. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 01:27 AM |
| 5 | There's literally nothing to do in life as an ugly short male?Many such cases | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 01:15 AM |
| 3 | There's literally nothing to do in life as an ugly short male?It seems that wasn't enough to stop him from becoming who he became | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 01:15 AM |
| 2 | Women are incapable of insulting attractive menIt seems that way cause you don't have it. The long-term sleazebag who lived happily ever after isn't really a meme cause there's no template for it. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 01:10 AM |
| -5 | There's literally nothing to do in life as an ugly short male?Ye. Don't wanna lead? Be Paul Simon and write music. Don't like music? Be Martin Scorsese and make movies. Don't like movies? Be Immanuel Kant and change Western thought. Wanna be a sad sack of shit? Take a daily dose of blackpill | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 01:07 AM |
| 3 | Women are incapable of insulting attractive menIf you could get a hidden camera view into these guys' lives you might find that the constant chasing of new partners is a pathology not unlike drugs and alcohol with similar outcomes of dissatisfaction. Like drugs and alcohol, it looks good and feels good until your system acclimates to it. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 01:00 AM |
| -1 | Women are incapable of insulting attractive menI hope you meet some players some day so you can realize none of that is true. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 12:50 AM |
| -2 | Women are incapable of insulting attractive menEdit: I'd imagine you read my answer by now. Deleted it cause I don't think laying down a template for insults is helpful | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 12:42 AM |
| -1 | Women are incapable of insulting attractive menFalse. Given a pre-requisite quality of sass, ego, or good-old fashioned self-respect anybody can and will get insulted. If in doubt, pick the best looking guy you can think of and scroll their instagram comments | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 12:37 AM |
| 1 | There's literally nothing to do in life as an ugly short male?Didn't seem to hold Napoleon back much | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 12:30 AM |
| 2 | Why are wahmen allowed here?Purge & rename sub to blackpillbetabros? Edit: ok that was mean. But if what somebody types is triggering why not debate them? That's what this sub is for right? And if they resort to ad hominem, name calling, or avoiding your point you basically win to anyone watching with half a brain. | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 07:26 PM |
| 3 | Ever notice lots of dating subs have nuclear black pills?I thought blackpill had to do with guys at a disadvantage from genetics, not numbers | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 12:13 PM |
| -5 | Ever notice lots of dating subs have nuclear black pills?It sounds to me more like dissatisfaction with the process of online dating than blackpill | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 12:49 AM |
| -1 | Ever notice lots of dating subs have nuclear black pills?Did you notice that the OP is a girl? | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 12:45 AM |
| 1 | Upvote tards.Yeah you make some good points about upvote/downvote in the OP that would be great for the rest of the website. I'll be interested to see if you're right about this platform's survival. The niche community format doesn't seem to be the same on places like discord but if someone else does it better I imagine that'd be the beginning of the end | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 06:16 PM |
| 2 | Upvote tards.I did not know that. That's very interesting | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 05:55 PM |
| 2 | Upvote tards.>There is no space of censorship where cruelty and bullying doesn't eventually occur but if everyone is allowed to take the piss out of eachother, the cruelty that makes the world a shit hole usually can not take place. Tough love and optimism. Didn't expect that from you sir! Respect | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 05:35 PM |
| 2 | Should mods here stop approving ropeorcopes comments?Ok I just went over your recent comment history and its pretty low effort. If I go back further will it make more sense what you're doing commenting here? I imagine your intentions aren't nefarious, but maybe you became more cynical with the sub over time? | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 05:33 PM |
| 1 | Should mods here stop approving ropeorcopes comments?Oh I see. If its direct insults then I'll edit my comment | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Should mods here stop approving ropeorcopes comments?Usually I'll challenge the implicit assumptions in the OP out of habit as much as anything. I guess this thread is more meta commentary | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Should mods here stop approving ropeorcopes comments?Do you have any recommendations? | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 05:20 PM |
| 1 | Should mods here stop approving ropeorcopes comments?Just guessing tbh | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 03:25 PM |
| 3 | Should mods here stop approving ropeorcopes comments?I know! I thought I was gonna get some debates going but it's mostly apathetic non-responses and passive downvoting. A remarkable lack of caring for a debate sub. The prevalent attitude seems to be 'this is how we think and we're sure its 100% correct so we don't want to talk about it. Also the title allpilldebate is mostly a formality so we don't get restricted' | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 03:22 PM |
| 4 | Should mods here stop approving ropeorcopes comments?My impression as well. I've only seen two of this guys comments and they werent really breaking any ToS that I saw. No problem imo to re-label this as safe space if censorship is the preferred route, but if you're going to call it debate... Also personally relevant as I imagine I'll hit the -100 threshold in a day or two and have only found one or two people interested in debate Edit: read some more of his comment history and can see where you guys are coming from a bit. Let's see what he says a… | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 03:15 PM |
| 1 | You can find out if you are attractive when working with strangers on a daily basis.Agree insofar as attraction is intended as a multi-dimensional variable and not a quick calculation of sex potential... | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 02:39 PM |
| 1 | Honesty is the kryptonite of sexual success for menOh, yeah. I'm sure that sort of stuff happens, to lesser degrees, right up to the geriatrics | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 02:32 PM |
| 2 | Honesty is the kryptonite of sexual success for menI suppose - being freed of social pressures to conform - you could also go full degenerate, but I hope that's not a common outcome | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 01:12 PM |
| 2 | Blackpillers: what has changed for you?Well... I hope you change your mind | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 01:08 PM |
| 0 | Blackpillers: what has changed for you?I disagree. In the aggregate we could say science doesn't really settle around the soft sciences, and in my experience specifically I've not seen the blackpill worldview hold up under examination. It seems to me to be a framework that a subsection of the population strongly identifies with, though maybe your version of the worldview is more accurate than I've seen so far | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 01:05 PM |
| 1 | All discussion on dating inevitably leads back to the blackpillThe 'almost' is where I intend to operate | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 11:53 AM |
| 2 | Honesty is the kryptonite of sexual success for menCould be, for all I know | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 11:51 AM |
| 2 | Wanting a partner who is simply not overweight or ugly is not entitlement, yet most men are told that it isWhat? Who's saying guys can't date their physical counterparts? | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 03:01 AM |
| 7 | Honesty is the kryptonite of sexual success for menThat is indeed pretty shitty | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 02:47 AM |
| 4 | Honesty is the kryptonite of sexual success for menOh, really? What's this sample size of degens you're referencing here? Guys on the internet or your peers? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 02:16 AM |
| 2 | Honesty is the kryptonite of sexual success for menHaven't met a guy who isn't the turbo-est of chad's that get's laid and is a good person at the same time. Actual teamwork and caring is a bad strategy and is the equivalent of taking the hard path, morals don't align well with getting laid... I'm sorry this has been your experience so far. Are you by chance still in high school? If so, it can get better afterwards. I remember a datinf culture that was like what you described, but after guys mature a bit it's easier to match your morals to your … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 02:11 AM |
| 2 | Blackpillers: what has changed for you?Congratulations! What kinds of improvements did it inspire you to make? | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/23 01:04 AM |
| 2 | Blackpillers: what has changed for you?I think that that is something biolgically implicit that is incredibly difficult to over come and isn't a "fix your personality" thing like people suggest but rather, develop yourself and suffer alone for decades with no hope for what you're missing right now. Ah ok. This is closer to the mainline blackpill thought as I understand it than what you'd talked about so far. That sort of stubbornness takes something else lol. I am very stubborn and fueled by my endless hatred toward women and the hap… | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 10:23 PM |
| 1 | All discussion on dating inevitably leads back to the blackpillAh ok, I see what you're saying. No that wasn't my experience with emo guys in high school - it seemed more about a fatalistic outlook on life in general propelled by teenage hormones than a worldview based on men/women relations. I'm sure there were guys who related to it for the reasons you're implying but there were others who were conventially attractive and did fine with women but related to the music/angst/etc | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 10:08 PM |
| 2 | Blackpillers: what has changed for you?It sounds like it gave you a roadmap to meeting your dating goals. Cool! Is the looksmaxxing a long term self improvement process or are you already noticing positive outcomes? | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 10:02 PM |
| 3 | Blackpillers: what has changed for you?So you've thought like this independently for a while now and it sounds like it's solidified. How is it for you to see people who hold different worldviews (i.e. other pills or normies)? | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 10:00 PM |
| 5 | Blackpillers: what has changed for you?That's great that you're taking such good care of yourself, and though I don't share your conclusions about women I appreciate that those conclusions were formed from you life experiences till now. I hadn't seen too many people on this forum take a positive spin on blackpill yet so it's nice to see someone who used it to reinforce self discipline | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 09:57 PM |
| 3 | Blackpillers: what has changed for you?Ok. Does being in a community of people with similar experiences help give further context to your situation? | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 09:49 PM |
| 5 | Blackpillers: what has changed for you?Ok. Given the fatalistic outlook and some of the key assumptions I was wondering if it would affect certain health and wellness outcomes, but in your case it sounds like it served as a framework to explain some of your life's experiences up till now? | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 09:47 PM |
| 1 | What is the end goal of Blackpill?I don't like how often the word cope is tossed out around on this forum but agree that is has a variety of applications | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 09:22 PM |
| -2 | All discussion on dating inevitably leads back to the blackpillSo we're agreeing with each other insofar as we see the similarities between the two communities? I think you might've read past anything I typed | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 09:11 PM |
| -1 | All discussion on dating inevitably leads back to the blackpillMostly they all had dyed black hair and a doomerish sort of fatalistic outlook on life. The latter is the shared trait I'm referring to. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 08:44 PM |
| 0 | "What is the end-goal of the black pill?" completely tired of this questionThat's good to know. Paraphrasing how I understand this post - many of the 'goals' in peoples' posts here are individual strategies based on the assumptions that make up the blackpill/redpill/whateverpill worldview but not representative of the worldview as a whole. Knowing this, more healthy debate could be structured around examining some of these assumptions in comparison to each other rather than making it a tribal sort of affair I will say that I haven't found a lot of appetite for debate h… | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 07:51 PM |
| 1 | What is the end goal of Blackpill?Judging by this forum the primary outcome is lamenting in the unfairness of the blackpillers circumstances. I would be happy to be proven wrong | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 04:40 PM |
| -3 | Most men are willingly turning into simps since it's kind of celebrated now to worship womenThis trend started over a decade ago but my impression is that it has already peaked and is in decline. Any men here would get less hate for being a simps than for being a " misogynist " and this is undebatable. Why does everyone make statements they claim are undebateable in a debate sub? If you say something mysoginist in front of a bunch of feminists you'll get roasted, and if you say something simpy in front of the local forumdwellers you'll get roasted. What's the difference? So not just th… | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 04:38 PM |
| -21 | All discussion on dating inevitably leads back to the blackpillBlackpill guys talk like emo guys did when I was in high school. No all discussion on dating doesn't lead to blackpill, but I'm sorry that's been your experience so far. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 03:10 PM |
| 1 | "The internet isn't real life" is an extremely outdated line of thinkingInternet is realer than real life because this one time it slightly crossed into real life. Ok | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 05:03 PM |
| 1 | Women are only interested in top menGood to be easily amused | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Women are only interested in top menDamn pretty good looking guy | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 12:47 PM |
| 2 | Never blame yourself for being an inclAlright fair enough | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 10:39 PM |
| -1 | Never blame yourself for being an inclFucking lol, of course you can't. Why not? That might be a higher threshold than the other two, but if there's an estimated million physicists on the planet (link) and a number of professions of equal difficulty is it really so out of reach to you as to be laughable? | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 09:24 PM |
| 0 | Never blame yourself for being an inclbased off of observable reality. That's a pretty low threshold with which to make conclusions on a societal level. I appreciate that it may seem definitive from your point at view, but at a minimum this view is colored by personal bias, and is unlikely to be comprehensive. Exceptions exist, but generally the most successful people in any given field have higher IQs, the most successful athletes have more natural talent, the most attractive men are most attractive because of genetic features. I t… | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 06:23 PM |
| -1 | Never blame yourself for being an inclBut the vast majority of the time you will realize you cant compete if you dont have the genetics. What's this based off of? Are you speaking specifically of running, fighting, and thinking, or more generally? | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 05:08 PM |
| 4 | What do you think about this comment on PPD?My paraphrasing of the post is: "Positive outcomes are attainable, but require effort most people choose not to invest" I agree. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 03:47 PM |
| 0 | Never blame yourself for being an inclSame for other facets. I’m not going to encourage a brutally unattractive dwarf to just lift and overcome his disadvantage in the dating market. It won’t work. Same way I wouldn’t think it a proper use of time or stress or hope for someone with some form of palsy or muscle wasting to try and engage in athletics or bodybuilding. This seems to make two assumptions that I'm not sure are correct: Lifting (specifically bodybuilding) is a useful way to attract a partner If your goal is to do a tour wi… | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 01:59 PM |
| 0 | Never blame yourself for being an inclIs your goal to develop the mindset of Tyson in his prume? If so, you might become a menace to society. He was a dangerous man. On Einstein - Never mind what I said about intelligence. You're right. IQ science is a mess and even if you can use it to develop conclusions what good would it do you? I appreciate the desire in this forum to carve out your limits ahead of time but mostly I'm seeing it applied to justify a lack of personal effort. I don't understand the logic in not doing something bec… | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 01:33 PM |
| -5 | Never blame yourself for being an inclWhy start with defeatism, though? If Mike Tyson had his boxing stat maxed, and your genetic potential is 62, what benefits come from 0-62? You'll develop the sort of mental health that comes with cardiovascular fitness, you'll be less afraid of confrontation, have more energy, you'll be used to overcoming adversity etc. etc. No you won't beat Tyson Fury. Is that your goal, to beat Tyson Fury? Or do you have different goals? | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 01:00 PM |
| -10 | Never blame yourself for being an inclSo you're probably not going to be the fastest sprinter ever, the most famous fighter, or the most well known physicist. Does this mean you can't develop the self-confidence of a fighter, the health of a sprinter, or the intelligence of a physicist? | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 12:22 PM |
| -6 | Never blame yourself for being an inclGenetics will ALWAYS beat hard work You mean in dating right? Not in life in general? | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 11:52 AM |
| 0 | NoFap is the biggest mainstream cope (for subfives)It's basically a challenge to be less of a degenerate, and as degeneracy is quite mainstream I disagree with the premise | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 11:58 PM |
| -2 | Why do men still marry?Or am I being too pessimistic Yes. The amount of cynicism in the replies is approaching mental illness | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/10/23 11:54 AM |
| 0 | Is gray hair sexist?When this story came out I saw it as more of an ageist/cult of youth thing than a sexism thing. Weird | /r/AntiFeminists | 06/09/22 03:38 PM |
| 1 | Women of Reddit. Have you ever agreed to a date or gave a guy your number from cold approach?Yeah I put that in the next reply in the thread | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 04:35 PM |
| 5 | Women of Reddit. Have you ever agreed to a date or gave a guy your number from cold approach?Well we're both speculating here, and I'm sure we both have anecdotes, but I'm assuming it's a matter of percentages - cold opens go down as less vulnerable options become available. Edit: I guess since courting was the old school move, cold opens were only partially necessary for a small part of modern history | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 03:12 PM |
| 7 | Women of Reddit. Have you ever agreed to a date or gave a guy your number from cold approach?There was a necessary physical approach at bars and parties that you can instead do online now | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 03:07 PM |
| 11 | Women of Reddit. Have you ever agreed to a date or gave a guy your number from cold approach?I'd imagine this is a generational thing. Cold approaches have gone from common to niche, and I'd imagine you could argue an unsolicited dick pic technically counts as a (extremely unfavorable) cold appproach these days. TL;DR my generation and those after lost some social skills | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 02:56 PM |
| 2 | A man needs above average sexually dymorphic qualities to be attractive, women don'tYes! This is the point I'm making in the second paragraph. If a guy wants to maximize physical attraction in his partner but can't compete on physical attraction, he can compete on non-physical factors like SES (or charm) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 04:30 PM |
| 3 | A man needs above average sexually dymorphic qualities to be attractive, women don'tUsing this single metric of physical attraction you might be able to build a case that could conclude that guys have lower physical standards overall. My counterargument would go beyond the scope of your point, but I'd argue that men are also more likely to be able to compete on non-physical factors (job, class, assets etc.) to find a more attractive partner. Women holding these things might be more likely to find partners that at least match them in these areas which, if true, would add a bit o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 04:19 PM |
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