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Men don’t kill their wives for not giving them sex lol. And I would argue that you have to be mentally ill to lack the impulse control required to both (1) physically abuse your wife and (2) kill your infant child without considering that you are mentally unstable and checking yourself into a mental facility
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:59 PM
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I would argue it’s not due to male desperation, but instead the attempt of women to commodify sex to obtain men out of their league attraction-wise for a shorter duration, then men out of their league financially for a longer duration. Women bemoan being objectified, but are the main contributor of their own objectification by applying market logic to their sexual and dating strategies. The long list of requirements (whole package) for long term partners can be levied against the very short list…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 12:57 PM
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I mean, like I said… the mere act of complaining doesn’t make your argument more or less valid. Complaining about not getting enough sex while refusing to go outside? Not valid in most people’s eyes. Complaining that your boss abuses their power by making you come in for unscheduled, unpaid overtime? Valid in most people’s eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:42 PM
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I disagree. Some incels project and lash out. Some just mind their own business while sometimes saying “man dating sucks for dudes” As a dude that hasn’t had much problems dating, I would agree that dating for the average man is much harder. But any “advice” I give it about looksmaxxing and matching energy… Similarly, I don’t think fat-shaming is productive either. Now, if you’re “proud” to be fat or think that women/men are somehow “wrong” for not wanting to fuck a fat person… you won’t get sym…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 08:48 PM
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False equivalency. People can complain about whatever they want to lol. The act of complaining doesn’t make their issues any more or less “valid” as compared to someone who doesn’t complain. I don’t tend to complain, I just don’t surround myself with people who would cause me to complain because I care about acting out frustrations than I do speaking about frustrations. I personally voice my discontent, and if it’s met with points that I don’t deem valid or sincere, I bounce
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 08:42 PM
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Yes. So we’re both allowed to do what we want in relationships… that’s the way it should be. I reciprocate the energy given to me… I don’t keep score I just don’t go above and beyond for someone who wouldn’t go above and beyond for me. If they don’t bring relationship energy, I don’t…. As is my right as a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 07:53 PM
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I’m disagreeing with you because that’s not most people’s experience… not because it’s just not MY experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 07:51 PM
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I don’t consider people low value by how many women they can get. I put value into how people treat others. So, by my definition, anyone who shames incels just minding their own business is low value… Congrats on bettering yourself. But in doing so, you never thought “boy it really sucked how people treated me simply for being unattractive, I will never do that to others”?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 07:50 PM
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Putting in effort that someone else is not reciprocating is degrading imho… I don’t think someone can claim that men are “entitled” when women are the ones complaining about only being used for sex, and men are complaining about not getting any attention from the opposite sex to begin with…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 09:22 PM
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Is it only entitlement if it’s men asking for things and setting standards? Is it a man’s job to put in effort to obtain a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 09:09 PM
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I disagree on a fundamental level. I don’t see average chicks trying to hook up nearly as often as average dudes… and I think most people agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 09:07 PM
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Yeah I mean college was different went in the mid 2010s but I don’t think it was THAT different. Most dudes got laid pretty often…. But chicks were doing most of the “picking”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 09:06 PM
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Suffering from success…. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 04:05 PM
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They’re both terrible at setting boundaries… glad they didn’t reproduce
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 04:04 PM
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Yes. Men who have tons of sexual options typically exercise those options… but that is a small minority of men in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 04:00 PM
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When it comes to sex and relationships… yes, average men do not have a ton of options. I never used the word “desperate”… that was your inference. I wouldn’t call it desperate, it just is what it is… average men lack options big time when compared to average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 03:58 PM
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Average Women are upset with the quality… average men take what they can get because they don’t have the option to decide between quality if there’s no quantity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 01:56 PM
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You’d say yes to eating bugs if you haven’t eaten in weeks
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 01:54 PM
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100% agree. I think prostitution would at least make average men realize that sex outside of a relationship gets old REAL quick
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 01:53 PM
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Men don’t want sex more, they just aren’t able to have sex as often as they’d like. Women are. Women eat 3X a day. Men eat 3X a week. Men are hungrier because their craving is satisfied less often. Every piece of food makes them hungry.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 01:53 PM
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We are a social species… it’s good to try to make friends and relate to people of both sexes… I know the chicks I’ve dated that were friends first (that I had no initial intentions of dating) were my best relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 01:50 PM
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I mean I think it’s less about “dying” and more about not knowing a world where they can actually “choose” between options instead of being like “this chick is the only one willing to sleep with me”. I think the vast majority of guys with >1 option, myself included, really take it for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 01:49 PM
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Or a chick 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:52 PM
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Can average men date and have sex? Sure Is it anywhere close to how easy it is for average women to date and have sex? Fuck no. My friend turns down dates all the time because a lot of people are just looking for casual sex… although I didn’t mention my friends gender 99% of you assume my friend is a chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:56 PM
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Women do fuck guys they don’t care about as some revenge thing or just to embarrass their partner… but that kind of woman already has issues if she sees her body as nothing more than a means to manipulate someone
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 02:09 PM
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People don’t like their just world fallacy being challenged…. And also the member of TRP subreddit are pricks
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 02:08 PM
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Don’t do OLD… I don’t know why people think paying (if you were born with a penis) to swipe pictures on a phone attached to a short bio is better than 5 seconds with a stranger in a bar. Only date within your socio-economic class… or get a prenup. Laws are NOT favorable towards men. As long as you make decisions based on how she treats you vs how she SAYS she treats you or how you FEEL about her, you should be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 02:04 PM
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I think your point is the same as mine… Women have more options than they want, but because of that influx of options, they also have a small minority of options that they DO want. Men don’t have options… they have to cast a wide net to see who out there is interested. Would you rather have a ton of fish in your net every day and have too pick which ones you want to eat, or would you rather have maybe one fish every couple of days that you have to eat out of necessity?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 01:57 PM
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Isn’t blackpill just looks matter nothing else?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:15 PM
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You made an analogy. I made an analogy My analogy is: Women think they are desirable because telemarketers spend hours on the phone with them. Seeing as telemarketers do so to extract your resources, most people would laugh at that notion
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:52 PM
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I mean half of those cases are just women’s justification for acting like a spoiled child. I don’t let my guy friends boss me around, not because I’m protecting my “masculinity”, but because I treat people with respect and expect respect in return. I’ve never laughed when someone asked my out because I’m an adult… not wanting to date a childish person who laughs when you ask her out is not “emasculating”, it’s more “damn I thought she was a decent person, lol I was wrong” Good example. If someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 03:49 PM
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Both dates suck so much it’s not worth comparing in that instance lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 03:32 PM
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So, then all men who are not currently having sex with women fit your pre-conceived stereotype about being mentally-ill social pariah’s with anxiety and depression? That’s the only reason they’re celibate?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 03:31 PM
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In my analogy, it would be more like… You keep saying you have a bunch of friends because you talk to the phone all day with telemarketers who just want to scam you out of some money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 03:29 PM
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I think when you say the word incel you’re meaning “misogynist” more than anything. I know tons of incels. They’re just below average looking dudes and they know that. I still love hanging out with them cuz they’re good conversationalists…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:18 PM
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Yes, that’s a good way to put it…. I’ll take that mindset any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:16 PM
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This. Fuck consumerism. Work out and eat healthy… don’t buy lip fillers and all that other shit cuz your brain is fried looking at altered images of beautiful people all day
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:14 PM
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So what’s your point to rebut my comment… I guess is what I’m asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:10 PM
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Thinking she was an 8 instead of a 4 was more of an elitist attitude instead of a “I’m confident in myself” Like women say, confidence is hot, cockiness/overconfidence is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:09 PM
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Definitely agree… which is why I think we need to delineate between the word incel, blackpill, and misogynist. I liken it to how prosecutors try to say that videogames make people violent. It’s backwards rationalization that only shows that people who are violent also happen to play videogames
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:08 PM
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People who act like incels get laid. People who don’t act like incels don’t get laid… Imagine… An incel who doesn’t act like an incel won’t suddenly have chicks throwing themselves at him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:03 PM
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Yes, her talking about how desirable she was, and how she could get any guy she wants for 3 hours because her last fuck buddy told her she gave good head told me all I needed to know. Looks aside, her personality kept her at a 4 at best… Never said we went on more than one date. Never said anything about how she looked. Those details were made up by you… the internet stranger who wasn’t on that date.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:01 PM
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So everyone who hits on women has an equal shot? That shot being no shot? Is that the take?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:56 PM
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I don’t think it’s fair to assume incels are all misogynistic simply because they can’t get laid. I would argue that not getting laid led them to be misogynistic, but most incels are not actively misogynistic… they’re just not able to get laid. It’s kinda telling that we value getting laid over being a decent person. And by “we” I mean women and men alike… so much so that we get defensive if someone suggests that incels aren’t bad people simply for not being able to attract women. Incel =/= miso…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:46 PM
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My argument is the same as yours sans “incels would get laid if their personality was better”. I agree that acting like an incel makes you less attractive, but not that incels would suddenly get laid if they didn’t act like incense. It’s a catch 22 lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:42 PM
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I don’t think anyone’s too picky for masturbating instead of fucking someone with a terrible personality and entitlement complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:40 PM
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If that’s true, then how come average women aren’t having a tough time getting laid? Is the average woman’s personality so awesome that she’s sexually more attractive? Or is it that the average woman can’t get commitment as easily because she over estimates how much her personality factors into her sexual value?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:38 PM
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Oh boy… can’t say my mom did that 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:33 PM
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In most cases where the incel is ACTUALLY a decent person, just extremely unattractive… yes. Fitting in is more desirable for our relationships than empathy at times, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 05:02 PM
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Damn bro your momma is hardcore lol. I wouldn’t take it that far though, haha… I just tell myself that if she wanted to fuck me, she would… any other excuses she makes are an attempt to extract resources. If I wanted a transactional relationship, I’d get a hooker. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 05:00 PM
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I mean no one NEEDS anyone else per say… but I think it’s disingenuous to say one doesn’t NEED anyone. Nothing wrong with admitting you’re happier in a relationship, but also acknowledging that you require certain things from someone else in order to commit to them. We’re a social species, we thrive on personal relationships. I think coping by telling oneself that it’s everyone else’s fault is a waste of effort. Do what you can to be the best person you can, and don’t worry about what you can’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:57 PM
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Dating s not easy for me because I’m some mega Chad. With a chiseled jawline. Yes, I do fine in the looks department, but it’s easier for me because I rejected mainstream dating advice a looooong time ago. I do what works, and value what she does over what she says. I don’t think it’s a ridiculous notion at all. All it means is that physical attractiveness is initially more “skewed” for women. That doesn’t mean that she will only ever want to date the top 20% of men… it just means casual sex is …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:42 PM
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80/20 is more of a broad generalization of trends. Your case is an anecdote. I guess the real questions are… did you want to have sex with those guys at any point? Are you attracted to them? I mean again I don’t really focus on what upsets people… most people find who they love eventually… and it sucks if some people never do… who am I to judge how they feel about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:19 PM
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What? Incel shaming is done by women because women see incels as unlovable cretins, then backwards rationalize that it must be how shitty the incel is as a person that is causing women to feel that way about someone. Men shame incels because they don’t want to be seen as an incel (even if they are) and want to feign disgust for a group of men in order to seem more attractive/capable to women. It’s essentially white knighting against a made up villain. The villains crime? Being unattractive and v…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:12 PM
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I would argue that average men KNOW their league, but they’re still going to attempt to fuck above it, below it, within it, whatever works. Average women will RARELY if ever casually fuck someone who isn’t better looking than them. And they will rarely if ever want for sex. So, in my personal opinion… women are painfully unaware of their league, and men are painfully uncaring of their league as long as it leads to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:03 PM
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The bias is in the fact that I’m stating what I’ve witnessed as a guy who thinks he has it easier than 99% of guys in the dating world is interpreted as me “complaining” Did, at any point, I say anything about “me” thinking it’s not fair? No The difference I pointed out is that both men and women want to fuck hotter people… but only MOST women and above average (hence, NOT most) men are able to. Do you disagree? And if someone truly wants to be objective, they can be… just find an average lookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:59 PM
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You ever been on a date with a 4 who thought they were an 8 because somebody used them as a human masturbator for a few month? Yep, I’d rather watch porn then do that ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:50 PM
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Average Women: Attractive dudes only want to spend time with me to have sex Average men: attractive women don’t acknowledge my existence So who needs a lesson in leagues? Not trying to lead you into a trap. Honestly asking your opinion/viewpoint based on my assumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:44 PM
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I mean you can make stats say whatever they want. Shared experiences will tell you that the vast majority of women only have casual sex with a small minority of men… if you’re claiming that average chicks are out there beating down average dudes doors for sex every night, I can’t “prove” you’re wrong… but I know it’s not true. Think about your casual sexual relationships vs your LTRs. Are you consistently being DMed on instagram by models asking you to Netflix and chill? The amount of chicks on …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:37 PM
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Vetting from Google: “make a careful and critical examination of” The definition is loose on purpose… so you can use it to fit your actions. You can have terrible vetting “she makes me get butterflies, she passes”… or strict vetting “she needs to make 2 million a year as a super model, and has to be a virgin”. I’d argue that your explanation of setting boundaries and sticking to them makes up a subset of my “vetting” process.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:31 PM
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It makes perfect sense lol. I’ll break it down… 10 dudes and 10 chicks with an average distribution of physical attractiveness. Dudes 9 and 10 are smashing chicks 9 and 10, but they’re also smashing chicks 6-8. Dudes 7 and 8 are smashing chick 6 and 7, but they’re also smashing chicks 4 and 5. Dudes 4-6 are smashing chicks 2-5 Dudes 1-3 and chick 1 aren’t getting laid Yes, average dudes are upset that average chicks don’t even consider them options until those average chicks are no longer able t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:20 PM
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Yes, which is why I said your explanation WAS vetting lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:59 PM
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Something something, master key and master lock. I am not dating a chick with an N of 1 or 2. I did that, and let me tell you… she thought her pussy was made of pure gold… on the other hand, I’ve dated a chick that was super attractive, but I’m pretty sure she let ALL dudes she found attractive smash. Also thought her pussy was gold and that she deserved a 10/10 billionaire who never ages. Just find someone who feels the same way about sex as you do. For me, it’s not too prude, not too “loose”. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:46 PM
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Oh no my mom is definitely a bloop. She just chooses douches, cheats on nice guys, cries about getting played by the douches… rinse and repeat. But guess who told me I should “just be nice” growing up? I love her, but she’s shit at giving any type of dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:39 PM
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According to who? Are average men now suddenly fucking tons of average women every night? Did male sexlessness disappear overnight?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:38 PM
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Yes but No… Average men cannot date/fuck above their looks consistently. Average women CAN. So it doesn’t matter who wants what. Average women can get what they want in most cases, but average men cannot. I myself am guilty of lusting after someone I would NEVER date seriously because they’re just barely attractive enough for me to want to fuck… maybe they have a nice ass or something… testosterone really do be like that. Average men will always chase below average women, average women, and abov…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:33 PM
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Again, it’s because average women will always be down to fuck above average dudes. The difference is that above average dudes WANT to fuck them. It ruins everyone’s just world fallacy… because your 5/10 LTR has given BJs to 9/10 guys on night one… but she wanted to wait to feel comfortable with you because she wants to extract resources not genetics… that’s tough to tell ANYONE and pisses almost everyone off.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:28 PM
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Vetting is a continual process otherwise no one would ever need to break up / divorce if they vetted properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:10 PM
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Shit I’m late 20’s and my mom confirms all the TRP shit. #mommyissues
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:09 PM
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Everyone gets angry when you break down their just world fallacy. Why do you think women HATE when you mention anything to do with 80/20? Who cares if some dude you don’t want to date gets upset at the truth? Everyone lies, men and women just do it for different reasons when you break it down. But in the end everyone lies to look or feel better to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:06 PM
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I’d argue that vetting is directly in contrast to your confirmation bias. If you can ignore your bias, the tingles, you can vet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:42 PM
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Women have gotten uglier/fatter too. I only blame them when they chase after a total POS for years then cry about how it’s not their fault they can’t find a decent dude. It’s all noise to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:26 AM
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That’s vetting my guy. It’s not just about them. It’s about enforcing your standards for them, and vetting those who don’t meet your standards regardless of how much they give you tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:23 AM
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I mean yeah… but I want prostitution to be legalized for other reasons. I think it will show average dudes that no strings attached sex is lame. It’ll help them get without that thirst factor involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:56 PM
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No, that’s stupid as fuck. Chicks do it all the time, though, which is why guys know that if she’s not sleeping with you her “I really like you” could just be her stringing you along. Guys have to focus on results not words because we don’t get used for sex as much as we get used for utility/attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:54 PM
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That’s fair. I think the birth rate plunging is good tbh. We can’t consume this much forever
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:07 AM
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Agreed. I don’t vote left (or right)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:44 PM
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Enthusiastic sexual stuff that we both enjoy? It’s a yes from me. Nothing else matters. Also I’m not a huge fan of anal so…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 06:26 PM
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Dating apps are not meant to put the most compatible people together… they’re meant to create an illusion of options while milking you dry (not in the fun way)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:37 PM
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Yeah, but it’s just women’s made up shit instead. I’m such an asparagus 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:35 PM
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I’ve been leaning left more and more recently as a product of how incredibly rigged the US has become towards the wealthy…. That being said, I would just lie until I got laid. No point in playing by the rules if it leads to the less desirable outcome. That’s life. Edit to add: I think when I said “lean left” everyone assumed I meant “vote left”. I think politics in this nation are irreparably damaged and I don’t find myself voting for anyone I truly think will make a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:33 PM
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I define myself as a redpilled only because I think mainstream dating advice for both genders is shit. However, I do not agree with 99% of the posts on TRP. The sub has been taken over by larpers imho. Hence why I’m here
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 11:37 PM
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It’s almost as if people have different views/opinions on a lot of subjects and sometimes those views don’t happen to align with the views of one particular person, but sometimes they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 11:17 PM
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Return to comment one. Don’t drive a car without an airbag, don’t let someone die because you might break their ribs if you perform CPR… don’t stop vetting just because you can’t get perfectly 100% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 11:10 PM
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I can’t imagine thinking I have to watch what I say in order to get laid. I think this only comes into play when you’re unsure whether or not she’s sexually interested, so you attempt to over-market yourself. If you tell every chick in the bar you have a 10 inch cock and $10M in the bank… you seem like you’re trying too hard and over compensating. If she’s that fickle with sex, she’s probably using sex as a manipulator and you don’t want your dick anywhere near her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 08:06 PM
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TRP energy. Enjoy the decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 12:50 PM
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Because it’s more “I’m getting older” and less “My options are drastically decreasing.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 12:46 PM
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I’m not the spokesperson for TRP. That was my personal take on the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 01:10 AM
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Women who try to trade sex for a relationship… never works tho A secure woman doesn’t change her standards just because good looking dudes tryna smash
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 01:08 AM
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Yes. But you should still vet… that was the point
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 01:07 AM
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Of course, just like an airbag can fuck up your face and CPR can break your ribs… but you’re much better off with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:21 PM
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No. The wall says everything about the women applying it. The wall is when her SMV gets much closer to her RMV. It’s essentially an “opening” of her casual options to more men than before because her casual options are dwindling. Both her long-term and casual options are still more than her male counterparts options, but the playing field is a little more level. However, the wall does not apply to women who are consistent with each of their partners, nor does it apply to women who don’t attempt …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:20 PM
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If she’s truly attracted to you, none of that shallow shit will matter. The only thing that turns off a chick that is genuinely attracted to you would be moral failures on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:49 PM
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Men want to be desired for sex. Women want to be desired for more… that’s why standards are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:44 PM
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Women aren’t willing to give up the free attention, and men aren’t willing to give up the minuscule possibility of pussy… plus the law is vague AF and is only intended to virtue signal
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:43 PM
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Nope. Simps don’t get laid… they only benefit women who get value from other men. And you don’t want to LTR those chicks. Now do they over inflate average chicks egos so that they sleep with a lesser amount of average dudes? Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:41 PM
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Any man who says that an approaching woman is low value probably also calls himself alpha on the internet at least once a week Why would showing effort ever be considered a negative trait? Being a woman and saying “that’s a man’s job” is so toxic and I can’t believe no one calls them out for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:37 PM
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The wall isn’t about men vs women… it’s about women vs their younger selves. Women have an easier time finding mates than men… big deal it’s tough as fuck for most average men to get dates, so the bar is low. You’re just going from first place to a distant 2nd place, and average men are going from a distant third place to a close 3rd place, so they are finding dates easier than their former selves. That’s “the wall”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:35 PM
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Cuz ugly women still get laid… and not committed to. See the single parent epidemic. And even if they didn’t, high quality sperm is dirt cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:30 PM
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Woman #1 simply because woman #2 doesn’t exercise or socialize… which is a big part of my life. Other than that, both would probably make me happy as long as they weren’t miserable themselves. Also guy #1 seems like a clear win just by his non negative attitude towards life…. Just sayin
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:44 PM
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I would argue that no woman is actually looking for a “nice guy”. They’re looking for a lot of other shit… and “nice” is a catch all for what she can’t verbalize. I think it’s just the PC answer… but when someone likes someone else, niceness has very little to do with it. Im not particularly “nice” to people i just start out dating, but I don’t go out of my way to be a dick. Niceness for the sake of niceness or pussy is just weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:41 PM
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I would argue that too mean > too nice all things equal… even if some women don’t think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:35 PM
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I mean I throw myself into my work at times, but I don’t let work control my life. I’ve definitely dated chicks that don’t have good work/life balance and let work control their lives… but that’s not driven to me. That’s just an addiction
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:34 PM
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No, I’m not a chick. I match her effort, and if she doesn’t feel like that’s fair it ain’t gonna work anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 02:32 PM
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Lol great comparison, but for me… not quite. If a woman is already attractive, and she is intelligent/driven/ambitious, she’s more attractive. Conversely, if she’s NOT intelligent/driven/ambitious, she’s less attractive to me. I do NOT think niceness works the same way. In fact, an attractive guy can be “too nice”, but I’ve never heard an attractive guy complaining that his gf dumped him for being “too mean”.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 02:30 PM
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Improved my lifestyle cuz I decided to use the lockdown to spend less time working and more time trying new things with friends. Got a gym membership as soon as I could and started lifting HARD and eating right. I love lifting now, but still hate running (go figure). Got into a FWB situation with a couple chicks who have tons of “options” (sexual, not serious) who just wanted to play games so that got old, I cut off contact, and they cried on their snap stories like all emotionally mature adults…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:50 PM
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And a generation of women who had kids with men that didn’t stick around. Have kids with men that commit to you via marriage, or you’re essentially attempting to trap a man with kids… there’s always 3 sides. I would like to point out that abandoning kids =/= killing kids…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:09 PM
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Cool. And how many men kill their babies?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:11 PM
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Women kill their kids and husbands because of postpartum depression. Stop naming shitty stuff a sliver of a minority of people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:05 PM
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Don’t have to… I think people know who is attractive and who isn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 03:19 PM
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Nothing wrong with admitting you lost a genetic lottery out of your control. Something something 80%
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 02:50 PM
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What would you like to know? Who doesn’t love talking about me? Uh… I mean themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 02:49 PM
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Great last sentence. “On to the next one” is terrible dating strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 12:35 PM
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Women fall in love to have sex, and thus don’t desire it as much. Some of my worse experience with women have involved being ridiculed for not tolerating obvious assault/harassment, as well as turning down casual sex advanced because I don’t want to waste time between relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 12:34 PM
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Yes. But it’s also necessary to treat people different based on their sex… not “worse” just different. I think people conflate the two
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 12:31 PM
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7, but that’s mainly due to stress that is out of my control… Men are unhappy due to a slew of reasons. I think the dating issues are a reflection of economic issues that, unfortunately, boomers think can be solved by “pulling yourself up by your bootstraps”. The boomers are the staunchest defenders of their just world fallacy and men just happen to be disproportionately affected (especially men of color, which I am not). Again, what worked 20 years ago is counter productive and I can’t wait for…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 12:30 PM
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Corporate jobs would be fine if the people who worked there chose empathy over making their boss more money
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:53 AM
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Men sexlessness: do better men. More showers, less porn, less videogames. Women sexlessness: men are trash, so we’re done fucking them. Women are never shamed for “incel” content, even though the word is not gender charged. Par for the course.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:47 AM
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Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:19 PM
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Not on Reddit because, although I don’t know them personally, the members of TRP and FDS seem to be either obvious LARPs or revenge fantasists Although I always think you should watch what people do vs what they say to get a good look at their character
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 07:36 PM
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I agree with that. I think a lot of people (both genders) get stuck in the “rage phase” or whatever TRP calls it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 07:34 PM
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But wouldn’t us doing that just be a gotcha for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 06:38 PM
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People would rather feel good about a lie than acknowledge the truth isn’t pretty, and you need to focus on actions and how they correlate to words in order to determine whether someone is introspective or aggressively in defense of their just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 06:36 PM
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You can disagree with the frame the members on Reddit provide while still believing in TRP tho. I think this question focuses on TRP, not TRPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 06:31 PM
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Yes, I don’t care what FDS users say about men. I don’t think anyone should. Nor do I think women should care what TRP users say about them. Take screenshots all you want. I already told you I edited the first comment to be more of a generalization by removing the word “you” This was because me saying “if it doesn’t apply to you (random reader), no need to get defensive” (talking about men/women getting defensive about what FDS/TRP says about them) was taken by you (FabulousFuchsbau) to be a per…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 02:44 PM
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Already edited it. I never said you took personal offense lol… again, you’re just making up hidden meanings instead of telling me where I backtracked… My point: If generalizations don’t apply to a person, why does that person care about them? That’s it. Do you wish to debate that point or are you going to keep switching topics?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:19 AM
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Where did I backtrack? There is no hidden meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 09:48 PM
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What? No. What you’re saying is women still use the hope of sex to get utility from men… even if he’s still fucking her (or was fucking her)… it doesn’t really matter. He’s not having sex because she’s into him. He’s having sex because she’s trying to extract resources. Why does it matter… stay the fuck away from women like that either way. Don’t befriend, don’t wife, don’t commit… stay away.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:53 PM
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It’s important to understand dating imperatives… which is where you find FDS and TRP… However, it’s not OK to use your knowledge of dating imperatives to become bitter and hateful towards the other gender. That’s where you find the people to are frequent posters on those subs. The ideologies… necessary. The community… toxic garbage
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 05:43 PM
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No, you can call out the members of the FDS and TRP sub while still agreeing with the literature. Just like I can call out a lot of modern day Christians and people who call themselves part of organized religion as being shit stains, while agreeing that the Bible has some good life lessons especially regarding empathy. It’s natural to be frustrated with the people who don’t practice what they preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 05:36 PM
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Because you’re taking my comment as a personal attack… which it’s not. Literally read the sentence before the one you quoted. That’s how context works.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 04:06 PM
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Most men have suffered more trauma and been gaslit about it (or just simply laughed at)… doesn’t mean we’re bitter like most of the TRP “influencers” The great thing about TRP is it doesn’t need influencers. It just needs you to recognize that the main stream is shit and other guys have done the research to prove why a lot of non-PC advice is better than the bloop bullshit everyone peddles so their just world fallacy doesn’t break down.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:16 PM
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Everyone needs sex to be validated. It’s just that women have enough propositions to not usually “want” for sex, so a lot of women use their surplus of casual sex offerings to get a relationship/commitment. It’s like asking “why do women need me to commit to them in a relationship?” Isn’t having sex with her and buying her dinner sometimes enough? No, and guys want companionship to. As humans we’re built for it. We’re a social species.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:10 PM
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I wait as long as I need to feel comfortable. I think the only time it’s toxic to “make someone wait” are when you are comfortable having sex with someone simply because you want to… but you’re trying to use sex as a means to manipulate someone into relying on you for it (some people’s weird version of commitment)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:05 PM
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You said the quality of chick you get from OLD is worse. I’m asking if the quantity is less as well…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:34 PM
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So you get less attention online than IRL?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 03:55 PM
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Imho once physical attraction is met and “not totally shit” personality is met, women will backwards rationalize 99% of what you do as “assertive, manly, confident, outgoing, humble, intelligent, kind, generous, etc.” to meet her “convince myself I like him” thoughts lol. But I do the same thing when I like a chick so… not worth any explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 02:26 PM
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Your friend sounds like she’s projecting. I uses to live with my parents. I studied and got a job and now I’m rich so I don’t have to (since I don’t want to)… Ur friend is low key toxic. Maybe she needs therapy not someone who fits her uber-niche mold based on made-up invisible boogey man criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 02:19 PM
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Oh I didn’t know that. But yes, it’s garbage advice and I feel stupider for reading it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 02:09 PM
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Again “you” not directed at anyone. As in “You can change a tire if it goes flat, no need to get worried.” This is not directed at you, just anyone who it applies to. Some people get worried when a tire gets flat. If you don’t, it doesn’t apply to you. I think you’re taking my initial comment too seriously or too personal. I’ll edit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 02:06 PM
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This works if men only want casual sex and women only want relationship sex… so this doesn’t work unless the dating strategy is BB only. Good looking dudes will always find chicks to bang. Always. Good looking and average chicks will always have a plethora of dudes trying to take them on dates and commit themselves to a chick in exchange for sex. Always. This attitude just perpetuates the fact that most people are no longer marriage material because they didn’t learn from what went wrong in thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:13 PM
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If you have no trouble getting girls in real life, OLD will just be easier. But just because you’re good at OLD doesn’t mean you’re great at actually dating. The thing with OLD is that it’s set up to just EXPAND the top X% of dudes dating/sexual pools. Anyone who is successful at online dating is either (1) already successful at real life dating and just looking for more people to bang or (2) still on OLD because they’re NOT successful in real life (or long term) and this the cycle continues. Pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:09 PM
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What about my comment made you think I was defensive? I was clarifying that “no need to be defensive” was directed at the universal “you” (not a specific person) who thinks trend data applies to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:45 PM
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Could be… or the poster is mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:44 PM
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I said catcalled and harassed. Never brought rape into the discussion. The analogy obviously worked. No imaginary slights or buzzwords needed
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:25 PM
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While I agree that men shouldn’t be paying for their date’s food early on in the relationship, I think it’s a bit disingenuous to make men entirely culpable for how they’re treated by manipulative people. No one (besides the radicals) tell women, if you don’t want to be used for sex, just don’t have sex. It’s important to note that the manipulative person is not part of the equation, and their guilt in the matter is ignored. Ironically, one of the things women complain about most frequently is m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:19 PM
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Yes, and I’m saying it’s hypocritical to victim blame a guy who is being used for free food. We shouldn’t have to get it in writing that a date is a date. Just like no one is forcing you to go on dates with dudes you don’t intend on dating. As soon as you know, shouldn’t he know? Empathy vs Solipsism
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:00 PM
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To me, Literally all women. It’s a nature vs nurture thing for me. Like the opposite of getting oneitis. Literally all women have the capability to regress to a form of crazy psycho bitch to be avoided. Just like I’d expect women to be on the lookout for douchebag fuckboy types like I sometimes am (when I’m single). It’s a way of consistent vetting. The vast majority of chicks I run into in the dating world are very capable of hiding their “AWALT” characteristics for months or even years. AWALT …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:51 PM
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I mean I consider myself redpilled, even though I think traditionalism is BS. You can reject the mainstream views in dating and still fight for equality of genders… It just so happens that, if you’re a guy, people call you misogynistic sometimes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:45 PM
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I stay away from chicks who don’t want to split the check… I can’t tell chicks it’s partially their fault for getting used for sex if I can’t prevent myself from being used for utility. Set boundaries and stick with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:42 PM
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Not what he said at all but great gaslight, well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:39 PM
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I wasn’t talking directly to you, I was using the universal “you”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:38 PM
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That’s about the stupidest rage bait/troll I’ve ever seen on TRP… and I’ve seen A LOT. Discard it all. That poster is either trolling or needs therapy. But I was talking about the sidebar, not the posters.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:38 PM
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Although I agree that women play a part in being pumped and dumped, I don’t agree. I think women should truly embrace my view of TRP. It’s literally a way for me to vet women with little to no introspection. Is she going to be more attracted to me when I treat her like an option? Is she going to be attracted to me more if she senses hot and cold from me? On the contrary, is she going to lose interest if I’m texting her back and being decent? Is she going to lose interest if I’m taking her on dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:31 PM
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Could the men you know be pretending to be more “liberal-minded” because their actual views would ruin their potential dating pool? You don’t have to know about TRP to practice it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 03:14 PM
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There’s a lot of different angles to this. Perhaps ALL men who don’t show up are pieces of garbage who don’t want to be a part of their kids lives. Half-Solution: don’t have kids with deadbeats (or guys you aren’t married to). Vet better. He doesn’t want anything to do with you or the baby. It’s attempted Financial abortion. His wallet, his attempt at a choice. A subset of men who don’t show up already know (or think) that the courts heavily favor the women, and therefore don’t want to waste the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 12:59 PM
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Everyone does it to an extent. Out of the chicks I know who keep tabs on me, they’ve actually reached out and kinda told me. And there are two types in my opinion: Genuinely thinks we might be soul mates, and wants to keep me as an option for however long in the future. Knows she messed up something before she could determine whether or not I would be a good LTR, and is so self-obsessed that she thinks I would still go back to her if all of my options disappeared (fuck that, I’d rather get a FWB…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 12:49 PM
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Dissimilar N counts are way more harmful than dating and being like “if his/her N count is X, I ain’t doing it!!”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 12:45 PM
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The sub? A collection of mainly anger phase men distorting the sidebar to justify venting in an online forum about the issues the average man faces in dating (mainly) but also in social circles. TRP at its core is about discarding any “feel good” information and using statistics and collaborative experience to share information about (and make conclusions about) gender-based dating and sexual prerogatives. Basically, an attempt to explain why men are seeing negative affects of using mainstream d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 12:40 PM
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Give me a couple examples and I’ll give my (non expert) opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 12:35 PM
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It’s a sub discussing dating trends… Of course, if those trends don’t apply to a specific person… no need for that person to get defensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 12:34 PM
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Yes, it is a Q4W… ironically the anti-TRP women commenting are proving TRP’s more misogynistic talking points
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 11:12 PM
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Women: TRP bad cuz the subreddit is mean. That’s basically this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 11:11 PM
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TRP sidebar. Take what you know to be false and discard it (not just stuff that makes you feel bad… truth hurts). As far as how women could understand men through TRP… just know men kill themselves at a rate 6X higher than women. There’s a reason men get “attached” when women show them emotional support is because no one gives a shit about the average dude outside of utility. Most guys who at least agree with TRP are not there cuz they hate women and want to have a place to put all their anger… …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 10:45 PM
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He’s usually not interested in sex… just wants to be treated decent?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 06:52 PM
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You’d never know that me and my GF are as sappy with each other as we are… well unless she’s been drinking. But out in public we’re not all over each other. We hold hands, maybe we kiss in the car a little… but at home, different story. That being said, yes, attraction is gonna wain over time. It’s up to both of you to keep doing new, fun stuff together… hanging out with friends, traveling, whatever. I wouldn’t notice my GF not having sex with me because (1) I honestly don’t get validated throug…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 04:44 PM
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I have one friend in particular who is like the group leader and puts in a ton of effort (much more than any of us). But he’s short so, by definition, not worthy of basic human kindness from women. It’s actually helped me see how chicks I would’ve otherwise been friends with are terrible people… so I’ve avoided toxic chicks through him lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 04:35 PM
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Both people need to stop relying on other people for validation. Pay 50/50 on dates or you’re an escort in denial. Make every effort to make her cum as much as you do or you’re a John
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:48 PM
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Not really. Although I think the way black people are treated in the US is horrendous, all BLM does is give actual criminals a hero complex and virtue signal for money. I also think BLM fails to identify that most of the black communities’ problems stem from being held in poverty for generations… and is only a black problem because they are disproportionately affected. In essence, black vs society can’t exist without poor vs rich. But that’s besides the point. It’s not about “getting average men…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:45 PM
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Expand your scope to more than the past few years
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:37 PM
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You’re leaving out key bits of information… like that it led to a relationship. It’s still a douche move to hit on the chick your bro is interested in… with the context you gave in the first post, you look like an even bigger douche because it came off intentional with 0 accountability for how it made your buddy feel
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 06:39 PM
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Yeah, and my point is that it’s not ok to ignore that and be like “well, it used to be worse” who gives a fuck? Thanks for proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 06:27 PM
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Yes. Do you not? Hell, I probably treat hot women worse cuz most of them are stuck up little shits who aren’t used to not being able to get away with treating people like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 06:26 PM
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Ok, well you took him out to help him get chicks (such a bro….) the end up spending the evening making out with a chick you obviously don’t give a fuck about while still trying to act like a mentor. Bro If I was him I’d cut all contact with you. You just seem like you’re trying to play master to the apprentice while acting like a victim. “Bro chicks just throw themselves at me I don’t know why you’re mad at me for that.” If your friend has half a brain he will fucking bounce, you sound like a pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 06:22 PM
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Ok, filters on filters, buttery cheeks, her and 10 friends where she’s NOT the cutest, her with a dude she says is her brother, camera angled down (she’s fat). The list goes on, not really the point of my reply
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 06:18 PM
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You’re a dick not because of what you did but how you did it. You hid it from him. Why? Why not just tell him that chick isn’t worth it because she flirts with you when he’s gone. It’s like if he told her you had a FWB just to ruin your night out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 05:31 PM
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Exactly. Can’t be the vetter then bitch about how you’re treated by when you qualified them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 05:27 PM
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Why are men shamed for not getting laid? Who fucking knows people are pricks. Women have options paralysis and are considered entitled. Men have lack of options and are considered desperate. Somehow this translates to “don’t slut shake that’s not OK!” But calling dudes incels is fine because men are trash…. Mmmkk There’s a reason TRP is quarantined and FDS isn’t. The west caters to toxic women more than they do toxic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 05:26 PM
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I hate OLD but yes, when I was on there my profile was a joke. It took me two weeks to figure out the vast majority of chicks on OLD were entitled idiots with a Cinderella complex. It’s 2021, I’m not showering you with gifts while you text your ex between his relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 05:22 PM
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The bar is as high as women set it. If women drop their standards to bang hot dudes, men aren’t gonna sympathize when those dudes don’t do house chores
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 05:20 PM
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I’d say most of the group can’t get laid on a regular basis. Maybe 1/year if they put a ton of energy in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 05:18 PM
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Everyone has a type. Men are more flexible, and the vast majority of women favor the same type of man due to their desire to fit in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 03:37 PM
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Yes, dating sucks for the average person… but it sucks more for the average man. Average women, instead of finding common ground, consistently punch down on average men. I’m now using the phrase “punch down” because Chapelle did it and I like it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 03:33 PM
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Nobody is a virgin… but I’d say the frequency of sexual relationships (casual or otherwise) varies a lot from person to person
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 03:31 PM
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But who do you think they’re attracted to? Because 80/20 is about 80 % of women being attracted to 20% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:55 PM
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Ok, I’m not a psychologist but I’d assert that sex stops happening because one person loses attraction without communicating or knowing why and makes it the other persons job to become attractive again.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:51 PM
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Yes, I am a bitter beta. My gf likes alpha Chads and I am sad. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Nowhere did I say women shouldn’t be single if they don’t like anyone. Nowhere did I say that men are owed companionship for existing. I just said that society consistently validates this rhetoric for women. Oddly enough, I’m lucky enough that women do, in fact, fall into my lap with 0 promise of commitment… that must make me so happy? I just live and breathe by the fact that women I don’t want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:41 PM
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Ah yes, WAW and “just shower and be confident bro”… followed by anecdotal evidence from an internet stranger. This is literally every response I get on this sub. Life might be a simulation. The fact that you don’t see any irony with “average women are more attractive than average men” is hilarious (and depressing) to me. The average man can lift more than the average woman. By your logic, women are less physically fit and are therefore less attractive than men… You can’t apply a lens based on on…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:32 PM
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I said: Beautiful people are with beautiful people… but average men must perform and do elaborate shit to get a chance to be with average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:30 PM
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Because it’s a sub that debates dating and sexual topics. Because guys don’t want to be settled for and treated like a second source of income and backup plan. Because guys want to know why they suddenly have options when they get older. Because guys want to know why their sex life falls off a cliff when they get married. Because guys want to know why, despite always being faithful to women they date, women sport bitch about getting cheated on 24/7. Because guys want to know why their wife is bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:25 PM
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My story: Me and my bros have roughly the same amount of confidence… I get laid more than most of my bros, I get treated better by women than most of my bros. Confidence can be ruled out Your story: I’m alpha and get laid. confidence = sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:23 PM
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No one is validating guys who want women out of their league. Society validates women who aggressively assert that they are entitled to men out of their league. Doesn’t matter how much average to below average dudes bitch about wanting a certain caliber of women… they’ll never get her. Average women will still continue to sleep with above average dudes, though, then blame all men when those dudes don’t want to stick with them long term That’s the argument, not “fat men should be able to date sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:20 PM
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Yes, and I agree waiting til your 30’s to marry and have kids is ideal. But until then, the average dude is getting laid way less and the average chick is chasing dudes that don’t want to marry them… that’s what the stats say
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:05 PM
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Anecdotal. Got it. My anecdotal evidence is that being confident works for me too… but only works for half of my friends. Which is weird, because half of my friends are below average height and take women on dates before they’re able to have sex with them. Clearly the common denominator is not “confidence”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:59 PM
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You linked a ppd post saying that the 80/20 rule isn’t true for women… with many of the top posts proving why that’s a false equivalency. Again, Women aren’t worried about not being able to have sex. Sex is easy to come by… even the most misandrist subs acknowledge this. Show statistics about how happy women are in their relationships maybe. As someone else on that post says, the 80/20 rule for women would be that 20% of women are easily able to attain happy, committed relationships whenever the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:53 PM
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My BS is backed by statistics that show up on this sub daily. I’m simply asking where yours are coming from? If you’re implying that only 10% of dudes are getting consistent sex because 10% of men are outgoing. I’m saying you’re pulling that statistic out of nowhere abd there is no studies that show “being outgoing” is tied to getting laid. Asking to see your math isn’t getting pissy. It’s asking you to show your math.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:45 PM
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What kind of grown person needs their SO to be a hero? What the fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:40 PM
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TIL not commuting to someone who hasn’t committed to you is morally degenerate. Bless up, boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:38 PM
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Where did I say that? No we’re all betas who just are mad cuz we hate showers and talking to women. You gonna answer my question or keep shifting the topic cuz it ruins the previous just world fallacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:36 PM
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You’re literally cherry picking outlier data from the past 2 years and applying it to the future. Trend data from the past 10 years can’t be ignored simply because a worldwide pandemic hit and women didn’t have as much sex last year… and even so, no one actually believes women aren’t having sex because they can’t get sex… they’re not having sex because they aren’t dating as much. That guy that waits 3 dates to smash is just taking longer to get to those 3 dates and only having sex with chicks he…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:33 PM
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Literally every dude I hang out with… why would I hang out with guys who play videogames and stay inside? I do neither Where does this 10% statistic come from
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:21 PM
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Women aren’t settling down as early because they’re chasing top dudes. Literally every study points to this. Marriage is later, male sexlessness is on the rise, especially for men at their sexual peak, and divorce rates are increasing. So your CMV is more “why”. Well, cuz they can. Slut shaming is considered “not nice”, but incel shaming is still cool cuz no one gives a fuck about average dudes. Y’all think it’s a coincidence that guys don’t want to work, wages are stagnating, and all this other…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 12:57 PM
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Women don’t need dating apps to get the attention they crave. Literally just have to exist
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 12:52 PM
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It’s simple. Emphasis on simp. The vast majority of women don’t need dating apps for simps to throw attention at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 12:50 PM
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Yes. People forget that TRP is about weeding those women out for sexual relationships rather than romantic ones… because women who are attracted to dark triad will not be a steady relationship option. ALL women should be on board with this… they just need to NOT pine after dudes that come off as dangerous. Oh, but wait, don’t restrict their sexual freedom!! You’d think if women weren’t attracted to criminals they’d just laugh it off and be like “well I’m not gonna date a criminal” but instead th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 12:48 PM
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For the top 20% sure… the rest? No. Are you guys just gonna continue to ignore male sexlessness rates, increased divorce rates, and marriage being pushed back to later years? Also, how many times are people gonna argue that “better than cave man days” is progress? You guys know we fucking went to the moon right? Slavery is more recent than “one in 17 men had sex in the past” BS
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 12:42 PM
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Calling dudes who want reciprocated energy scrotes on FDS. /sarc The remaining 20% are just going after a larger subset of men… doesn’t need to be 80%, but that’s what’s theorized
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 12:38 PM
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Nothing yet. But I’ve never stayed in a relationship where I didn’t eventually give it 100%. If my 100% is not enough for you, you have the right to leave at any time. If you don’t intend to ever give 100%, save us both the time and find a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 06:15 PM
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I mean women as a group making fun of men for being dumb, useless, etc in a playful way is no big deal… if the women take it further and think that TV = reality… well they’re not really worth getting worked up over. Now a better example of actual denigration is “WAATGM”, “chivalry is dead”, “#killallmen”, etc. But again, not worth the effort to argue against chicks who are obviously projecting their own shortcomings
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 06:11 PM
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Oh definitely I get that. I’m saying that, for most women, sexual gratification usually isn’t from a short term fling, but it definitely could be from a FWB
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 02:05 PM
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I totally agree. My FWB are chicks I know well enough to know they aren’t bad women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 04:47 AM
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Or bring up a response that isn’t anecdotal?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 02:32 AM
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As much as your Steve Harvey anecdote
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 02:19 AM
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Good for him. I don’t have any rule. I do what makes me comfortable because I’m an adult capable of making informed decisions on sex and dating
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 01:58 AM
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Kinda just entertainment and reinforcing the fact that women want to gatekeep sexuality, and men are bitter about their own contribution to that. I’ve even been called incel/rapist here (even by mods lol) with zero evidence for merely disagreeing with the opinion of women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 01:58 PM
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Not the vast majority of men…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 01:56 PM
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The point of TRP is that you don’t have to know about TRP to be successful in dating. Tons of dudes out there will kick any chick to the curb without a second thought because they have a seemingly endless supply of chicks throwing themselves at him…. As for FDS, met tons of “I want traditional gender roles for you but not for me.” But I can’t say if they actually were aware of FDS or if they’re just “born again” insert thing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 01:53 PM
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This is a lot of words to say “don’t be bitter because you suck at vetting”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 01:42 PM
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TRP (the ideology not the subreddit users) isn’t focused on “wanting” anything to be true. It’s literally about removing the “just world fallacy” from everyone’s brains…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 01:41 PM
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Is doing it by yourself better than with your new bf?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 01:38 PM
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For some it means “It makes me feel better to lie online about how lonely I am”. For some it means “being single is better than being with the douche bags I seem to attract”. For some it means “I get enough attention from orbiters”. For some it means “I am uncompromising, so when I don’t have to compromise I’m happy.” For some it means “I like being alone more than being in a relationship.” For some it means “I’m lonely but still generally happy.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 01:35 PM
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You saw women sleep with men that were less attractive than dudes they dated?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 05:00 PM
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But looks are the most important part. Nothing else matters until the looks threshold is met
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 04:59 PM
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That’s not borderline rape. That’s rape. And I’m so sorry you had to deal with that from someone who claimed they loved you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 02:04 PM
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Bro are you me?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 02:01 PM
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If you ain’t pimpin you simpin
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 02:00 PM
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But trend wise that rarely happens… For a woman to sleep with a man, he almost always has to meet her looks threshold for a relationship. For a man to sleep with a woman, she has to meet his “I would smash” threshold… which is sometimes much lower than his “I would date” threshold
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 01:58 PM
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I mean I agree to an extent… I don’t think you want to be with a chick that thinks online validation or getting railed by tons of decent looking dudes means her self worth is higher. You don’t want chicks that can’t figure that out. Thats the femcel/serial dater you need to avoid
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 06:21 PM
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The sidebar for TRP and FDS are decent if you take what you know from experience to be true. The members are toxic, sexist rage-fueled cope machines, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 12:24 PM
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Yes. Although I don’t think it’s intentional. Women use backwards rationalization to see what they were missing from that guy that dumped them… and it was ROMANCE! Turns out, if a guy is just using you for sex, he won’t be MORE romantic than he needs to be. But, I think a lot of women make the mistake of listening to his words and not trusting that his actions speak louder. They want to avoid being used for sex, so they tell the new “prospects” (or really anyone who’s listening) that their ex wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 12:21 PM
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That’s why I look at the sidebar not the psychopaths telling me what they think the sidebar means
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 01:34 PM
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Yes. Yes, it was a breakup. I dumped a couple chicks and didn’t understand why I was still being pursued and was given enthusiastic blowjobs when the new guys were told “I don’t like to give BJs”. I never considered myself an “alpha” (I just don’t let my boundaries get moved), and I didn’t understand why I was attracting the same type of chick with two different outcomes…. The first outcome is rejecting a chick and her repeatedly jumping into bed with me enthusiastically while seemingly hoardes …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 01:28 PM
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What in the loaded false question is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 06:22 PM
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You’d keep your children in the orbit of a toxic relationship for the other reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 06:20 PM
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If your husband treats you like shit why stay married?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 04:41 PM
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Haha, definitely how dudes feel
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 02:48 PM
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We’re not worried about getting “manipulated” by sex to murder someone. That’s something we can control by not murdering someone… very easy to control. I’m more worried about getting manipulated by the prospect of sex. Even if sex happens, it means she sees sex as a means to maximize the attention someone gives her… not as something fun to do with someone she has a romantic relationship with. Can’t fix that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 02:31 PM
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Is the CMV because your post is clear evidence to disprove your title? I’m confused “I let some lawyer and video game developer hit, so average men should be able to find a good woman like me online!” 🤦‍♂️ congrats on the sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 08:06 PM
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My scenario was a broad generalization… I think most people would agree that the vast majority of women express emotions to express emotions… not as a request for solutions
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 06:06 PM
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You forgot “I love the office more than anyone I know!! #JimistoogoodforPam “
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 01:43 PM
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My point with #1 was to say that that had nothing to do with “penetrated vs penetrating”… and I just made up a claim based on the info like OP did. But good to know. Anecdotal, but every time I fuck 3X a day for awhile I have to tell my SO to slow down lol… I get chafed on my penis. That is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 01:41 PM
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College is 18-22 for most. Later for the rest. Plus grad school, med school, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 01:15 PM
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Wrong again. Being a tool gets you laid. Being a tool does not get you laid by chicks worth settling down with… Everything else is a cope or anecdotal evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:57 PM
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Avoid any chick who cries WAATGM. She exclusively gets them out. Also avoid any chick who has a random made up number of dates/months regarding sexual intimacy. Sure, she’s consistent… but most likely has reservations regarding sex that come from former sluts projecting their problems onto her (and her allowing those chicks insecurities to affect her. You have to vet more carefully in your 20’s because (1) women have not yet had to deal with NOT having TONS of sexual attention thrown at them and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:27 PM
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When you tell me women have a higher chance of contracting an STD during sex, all you’re telling me is that women have unprotected sex with high N dudes and make “relationship/husband material” wrap it up. Is that true? Who fucking knows. I’m pretty sure everyone experienced pain during the honeymoon phase where you’re driven by pure lust and fuck 3X a day on average. That’s why lube was invested. Gots to see it thru my boi.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:15 PM
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Step 1: Act super woked and totally cool with her past. Step 2: Listen to her tell you all the stories about fucking randos when she was “living her best life” It’s really helped me avoid chicks that view sex as something to trade for a relationship/stuff rather than as a fun activity between two people who really want to be in a romantic LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:45 PM
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This 100%. I’ve had one without the other on both ends and neither relationship was better. They both sucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:43 PM
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If argue 99% of people wouldn’t be in a relationship if there was no possibility of sex. Prisoners are allowed conjugal visits for this reason. Sex is one of the most important parts of a relationship… otherwise we’d all just be friends and not worry about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:42 PM
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We can tell the sexually liberal from the not so sexually liberal. We don’t care if we are just tryna smash for a while and aren’t looking to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:11 PM
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I don’t think men necessarily want an apology… because it’s not like a woman riding a dick repeatedly is something she didn’t mean to do. It’s not just an “oopsie, I wanted to feel pretty so I pleasured a complete stranger!” I think the bigger issue is that it’s kind of full circle of some toxic women traits for guys. The guy who is cheated on has the responsibility of a relationship while some random guy who doesn’t have any responsibility or show any commitment to the cheater is receiving LTR …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:55 PM
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Yep, which is how most guys see most women. Which is why they’re blindsided when their LTR throws it all out of the window at once. Yes, ‘‘twas but a comparison but see #1 I get that. But in my experience, there is rarely a woman who will say “you know what, regardless of what I was going through it was fucked up to do that and even though my intention was not to hurt you… I understand that it did that in a big way and I’m sorry. If there is ever anything I can do to show you how sorry I am, ple…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:28 PM
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But Becky had the good hair. Seriously, though, I think people react more polarized with female cheaters because women are constantly turning down sex and talking about how everything under the sun is more important than getting dick. But, when push comes to shove, stranger dick is what they turn to if the relationship goes south. Kind of a “what the fuck, why not just be consistent” moment from most guys. It’s kind of like dating a guy for 5+ years and he’s dating he’s not quite ready to have k…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 04:25 PM
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I actually believe this… which is why I don’t feel too bad for Will But… I still think it’s creepy as fuck to take your sons best friends dick… just sayin’
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 04:23 PM
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Oh no! Less men to manipulate with the 0.0001% chance of sexual attention! I can’t believe average women have to experience a glimpse of dating life for the average dude while they’re at college… literally the easiest place to meet people in your 20’s I’ll try not to cry myself to sleep
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 01:23 PM
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Women gatekeep sex AND relationships. The inability to get a relationship in addition to sex is mostly due to shit vetting tactics and coping/backwards rationalization. Nobody questions the man’s ineptitude if he can get dates but not sex… hell, they’re shamed for that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 11:20 AM
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I’d argue both genders do it. Men do it because we can… and some chicks have such low self esteem that this intense form of negging works to… get more chicks. Women do it cuz they don’t want their romantic prospect to get poached in an instant by Stacy big tits
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 11:17 AM
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I’d argue that it’s both. There’s an “I can change this bad boy” or “my vagina is better, I’ll show him” that a lot of women ascribe to
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 10:37 AM
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100%… I want kids eventually but I’m barely holding onto upper middle as it is
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 10:36 AM
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Can’t get rich if women don’t buy your product over whatever the women are selling
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 10:35 AM
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Yes, I totally agree. I can’t believe some of my supervisors want us to come in lol… I don’t hate my home life. Im sorry you (the sups) hate yours
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 10:35 AM
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They do think that. See “I can change him”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 02:07 AM
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Your whole argument is that you know men are trying to market to women what men think women want… you’re 2 levels removed I’m just 1
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 08:26 PM
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Even milk!!! Specifically degrading the female cow when there’s perfectly good bull milk waiting to be drank by all!! /sarc You lost me when you said magic mike appealed to what women want. Then I continued to roll my eyes when you said rom coms were something men thought women want. Yeah… no dude is out there secretly hoping that on movie night our SOs pick titanic or the fucking Notebook (sure, ladies, cheating on your husband is cool as long as it’s “for love” with that cute dude you had a ON…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 08:02 PM
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I agree… Im glad women are in the work force to see the bullshit being pulled… it’s two income household or you’re poor. Very disheartening
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 07:50 PM
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Women admire players by sleeping with them… hence the term “players” Men have nothing to do with how successful men are with a bunch of women… that’s on the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 07:05 PM
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OR… the men are tired of being wage slaves. The income gap is growing by the second…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 07:03 PM
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Well I DO agree that body parts make men aroused and don’t really contribute to a whole lot of arousal for women… so I guess, technically, the latter half of your statement is AMALT even if you were just poking fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 02:42 PM
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They = 1 dude on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:56 AM
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Lol, solipsism in action… I’d also like a study that shows the long term relationship effects of attempting to date on of the more “competitive” women. Personally, I avoid any chick who gossips them cries victim when someone else gossips about her. I’m guessing women tend to do the same… essentially, the toxic “competitive” women would probably flock towards one another, and smart people avoid them. To watch those who aren’t smart enough to avoid them, watch any reality TV show.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:18 PM
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Wait I thought we weren’t body shaming? I thought big was beautiful? Oh, my bad, that’s only if you have a vagina… carry on bro preach to these fat lazy fucks (men only, women you’re perfect the way you are) /sarc But no I don’t think any “system” is to blame for obesity as much as the reliance on being an office drone to be honest… It’s funny because paying people to incorporate exercise into their work day would make everyone more productive and would be excellent team building but fuck that… …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:36 PM
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Ugly men can’t keep women around just for sex though… hence the word “ugly”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 05:36 PM
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I don’t disagree. But I don’t think you can have a bunch of ONSs then one day be like “oh sex is super intimate please buy me dinner X times before I consider it”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 05:15 PM
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Yes, I’d claim that most people who call themselves Christians are Christian in name only
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:56 PM
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Just don’t enter the friend zone if you’re not completely happy being just friends. As a guy, it’s super annoying when chicks give up being my friend because I’m not responding to their advances…. Why would I ever do something that shitty to a chick?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 12:46 PM
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It’s kind of a catch 22. We don’t want to date the chicks that would jump into bed with us after knowing us for a matter of hours (because we’re likely not the ONLY guy she’s done that with). But we also know that women typically sleep with men sooner if they really want to date them. And, again, I know it’s hard for women to understand but… we do NOT want to date the vast majority (let’s say 90%) of the women that we want to fuck. So, it depends. If you’re saying “oh I NEVER fuck guys that have…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 12:40 PM
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This. Every “devout Christian” chick I’ve ever dated was way more interested in asking for forgiveness than actually changing… The non-religious types avoid toxic relationships/behaviors… the religious types try to fix everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 12:26 PM
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gets called old dammit I’m not even thirty lol… No I get that comparison… but I do think you understate how often guys get led on before being rejected just for fun. A lot of dudes get told to wait for physical affection (not even sex), and spend months catering to a chick just to have her be like “lol you’re pathetic I was blowing (Vinny) the whole time” and Vinnys like “you pussy I don’t even care about (Megan), she’s just my slut” It’s exaggerated (painfully so) but you get the gist
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 10:43 AM
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Yeah, I’d say you have good communication because you tell the person that you don’t want solutions you want an outlet. Surprisingly that’s hard for people to recognize and verbalize
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 10:39 AM
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I honestly think everyone knows we go by physical and facial attraction first. Pretty privilege is a thing outside and inside of dating. But honestly your examples seem to be just playful fun-poking tailored to the new COVID-19 aware world
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:33 PM
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I build relationships with women all the time lol. None of them turn romantic unless I’m single. That’s dating. I never push for sex… lol. If we’re fucking it’s because she wanted to fuck. Not because I said “sex or we’re no longer friends” Can’t speak for all men, but usually men will just put in the same amount of (romantic) effort as you do. It doesn’t have to be “sex by this date”. It starts with hanging out, then kissing, then maybe going places together instead of with a group… the relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:29 PM
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Yes, it is sad… and although I’m ashamed to admit it… I was definitely that guy in high school. But, again, it’s high school. We have to learn to be more empathetic to the people around us. In high school I had tons of chicks I wasn’t interested in who would continue to write me love letters and make OVERT grand gestures of their “love” for me (even though I never talked to them). I would try to let them down easy sometimes, but other times I would just go full asshole mode and read the letters …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:24 PM
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I don’t think it has to be extremes on either end. If she’s fucking someone else while she’s fucking me it’s not gonna grow into a relationship anyways. Typically I would find out either way… it’s pretty easy to not fuck other chicks if I know a chick is interested in me and I’m interested in her. If a chick knows I’m interested in her, she’s probably not fucking other dudes cuz that means she’s not interested in me. I buy my GF gifts, and she buys me gifts… and we split travel costs and dinner …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:17 PM
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I mean women sleep with who they want to date… it’s the #1 sure fire way to know she’s interested. Now if we’re sleeping together at this stage in my life, it’s usually because we’ve known each other for a few weeks at least. Of course it’s low effort lol! I don’t expect you to start wedding planning as soon as you’re interested… and im not gonna start buying you expensive jewelry and planning elaborate dates. The effort given is equal to the effort she puts in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:10 PM
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We’ve all had to face rejection and the social ribbing that resulted in high school lol… I think it’s a little bit of a stretch to say women never hold rejection over dudes in high school. I know plenty of times where chicks would flirt overtly with guys just to laugh at how easy it was to get them to do stuff for them. Then they’d cry about how the more popular dudes ghosted them after a car BJ… it’s funny (read: sad) that chicks in their early 20’s and early 30’s follow the same patterns hones…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:02 PM
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She gets overwhelmed sometimes and cries. No big deal. Emotions need to be expressed… if she tries to take the negative emotions out on me I calmly tell her that she’s not mad at me she’s just mad and needs to not blame me for something out if my control. Chicks cry a fuck ton more than dudes in my experience. The MAIN takeaway is that women just want to “talk about” or express their emotions toward an issue… they aren’t very solution oriented right off the bat like us. I actually think that’s a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:08 PM
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Never asked a woman out, like to be my gf. We just kinda grow into “more than friends” because that’s better than asking someone if you can do something for them. It’s a weird precedent to be like “Hey, I’m interested in you romantically, so can I pay for dinner so we can spend more time with each other?” No thanks… I know that’s not the best way to get the max # of results, but I’m not looking to date around I’m looking to settle down
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:00 PM
1

So you wouldn’t recommend asking guys on dates because, personally, it was embarrassing to be rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:57 PM
4

I got laid way more when I was poor… but the quality of chick was way worse too… that’s why I prefer being well off and dating chicks that don’t rely on me financially
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 01:09 PM
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This. The reason we dismiss q4w here isn’t because we don’t trust these women to give honest responses… it’s because the only women who comment here are actually probably fine with their man showing emotions…. Which means they are definitely in the minority
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 01:08 PM
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Yeah, I mean that’s your process. It’s nature vs nurture for me. In my experience, showing interest ruins my chances with a lot of women. And my interest might not even be something I want to risk a possible friendship for. I’ve learned that my best relationships (by far) have been with women who show their interest up front. It’s these women who are willing to risk slight embarrassment for a mutually beneficial relationship. Now I’ve likely already committed time/energy to these women in a plat…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:45 PM
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Masculine is not listening to some dipshit tell you how much you need to work
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 06:03 PM
2

Past relationship ladies don’t seem to be upset about the end result. I think it’s human to have to balance interest with reciprocation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 05:09 PM
1

Most women shit on most men. Top tier men shit in most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 04:22 PM
1

I guess we’ll see when I get there lol. I don’t think the economy supports it though
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 04:21 PM
1

No because women still are attracted to the same subset of men… no matter what percentage of men are able to obtain the subset qualifications
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 04:20 PM
1

Im arguing the fall of the nuclear family and less focus on familial relationships is more to blame than “progressive” agenda
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 02:52 PM
1

Yeah… I mean just reminding me politely is fine. But it depends on what the task is. I don’t need a 5 minute bitch fit if I forgot to move the laundry over
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 02:46 PM
1

Disagree as someone who doesn’t date anyone I have to “ask out”. That’s like saying that you’ve had sex in the past so if you don’t have sex with me to begin the relationship then you rejected me. Rejection is active, not passive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 02:43 PM
1

Most guys can’t… but most guys that can, do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 02:42 PM
1

40k in savings each for a year? Nah. Bills… food, car payment, insurance, etc digs super far into that. Plus tax is like 35% federal not including state tax. We get some of that Back but still a lot goes into retirement
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 02:32 PM
5

Haha to each their own!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 10:52 AM
1

Got banned from asktrp because I asked why I was a beta for getting laid using beta tactics… in their defense I think TRPers on that sub are idiots who need more sidebar and less revenge fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:11 AM
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And your prize is fatter women… so unless you like that there’s no real advantage. Dudes still simp over fat chicks. Rarely are chicks ever simping for fat dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 09:35 PM
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Incentive =/= stipend. I’m not talking about progressive societies or looting. I’m talking about the benefits of a two parent household over that of a single parent household… which you wouldn’t think is a controversial subject
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:38 PM
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If hypergamy isn’t a think then guys using women for sex isn’t a thing. Everyone wants to have sex with someone… doesn’t mean that women are ever used for sex /sarc
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 03:33 PM
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I’ve had chicks say “I totally wanted to date you back then!” with literally 0 flirting involved… I either assume they’re lying to get a reaction like “oh my God me too!” Or they are just so used to guys doing all the pursuing that a lack of pursuing is seen as “rejection”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 03:31 PM
1

Quite possibly the mortgage? I live in an above average cost of living area… but still take home a decent amount… but $15k a year is not really doable, especially since my SO works too and doesn’t want to choose career or kids over the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 03:28 PM
1

I’m in!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 03:26 PM
0

Come again? Think a word is missing/autocorrected
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 03:26 PM
1

Ok… my body tells me to fuck every woman I’m attracted to without a condom. But that comes with added risk of STDs, added risk of pregnancy when I don’t want a kid right now, etc. Maybe following the impulses of your sexual organ without taking consequences into account doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 03:25 PM
0

Treat me like a human who makes mistakes and forgets things, and who doesn’t fly off my rocker when you make minor mistakes and forget things
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:27 PM
1

My body tells me to punch someone in the face when I disagree with them. I don’t do it because I know the consequences of such an action. But sure… add “listen to vagina tingles” to the list of things for women hamstering
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:25 PM
1

You’re already paying to educate kids that aren’t yours. If I pay more in taxes than you…. Does that mean I get to use more roads than you? Does that mean I get to get a fast pass in the ER?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:23 PM
1

Yes. Mommy and daddy leave in the US is a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:21 PM
1

They pay the lower class to breed. I didn’t say they should pay me, just that a two parent household should be incentivized.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:20 PM
1

$100K each
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:19 PM
1

$15k in savings is a shit ton of money. Although I take home over $100K
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:18 PM
1

Is this better money than getting married?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:17 PM
3

You can tell me what to do or how to do it. Otherwise Shut up
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 11:06 PM
1

“Only date casually” and “girls just like me” is kinda just TRP- positive. Now if you said you go on extravagant dates with women and wait at least 3 months for sex because you respect women… that’s more blue pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 11:01 PM
1

Top 5% of earners in the US, individually. We can afford kids but not without giving up A LOT of our current hobbies/ activities/ savings
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:18 PM
1

I assert that DINK to dual income even with just 1 kid drops your earnings a ton
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:07 PM
2

So you’re just as well of as you would be had you not had them? Does your wife/baby momma work?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 05:42 PM
3

You have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 05:29 PM
2

Wouldn’t want to give up 1 of two kids though just for tax reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 05:28 PM
1

Art imitates life. Sex can be as amazing as porn if you’re with a woman who likes you. It can also be as terrible as other porn is if she’s just having duty sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:58 PM
1

Every single one of us. But if we can’t find what we want in one person, we’ll use multiple people… we do it in parallel… women do it in series
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:53 PM
1

What if women just like bad dudes despite saying they want a nice guy? Wouldn’t that make more sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:51 PM
1

Massive swing and a miss. Women fuck who they want. If you don’t like the type of guy you are fucking… look at the common denominator. There’s a reason dudes with high N counts have never heard “I just don’t want to ruin the friendship we had” or “you’re just too nice” Most guys just don’t want to be shoved in the blame pile with the guys who actually got to smash simply because you refused to vet properly (because he made your vagina tingle)…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:47 PM
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Me and my GF are really well off and want kids…. But doing so would drop our asses to a way lower class. Fuck that, fuck any government who doesn’t incentivize two parent households
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:44 PM
1

I think the west incentivizes selfishness for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 02:51 PM
2

No… I’d prefer to have a few LTRs in my life than chase tail 24/7. Enthusiastic consent is required regardless… no starfish sex out here
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 12:21 AM
3

Stay at home wife is for food stamps or uber rich… there is no support for the middle class
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 12:00 AM
1

Much better; much less diverse Average dudes can bang more below average chicks now… but I’m a quality over quantity guy so I’d say the sex life is much worse now for average dudes. Thank you mom and dad for the good genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:58 PM
2

I agree to an extent, but can you expound?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:51 PM
1

You’re saying most chicks you know just want to fuck no strings attached? And dudes want to cuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:51 PM
1

Anecdotal
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:38 PM
1

Yes it is… most chicks don’t want no strings attached sex. Most women want those strings attached. Ignoring reality because it isn’t pretty or doesn’t align with your lens won’t make it less true
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:45 PM
3

Uber healthy relationships for people with good vetting. Harems/serial monogamy for the below average vetters.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:03 PM
1

That’s the only way most dudes can get sex….
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 05:59 PM
1

So no counterpoint? You disagree that men don’t want relationships with all women they want to fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 03:13 PM
1

Dudes just want to fuck most women. Women claim they want relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 02:59 PM
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It’s human nature to trade your self respect for some dick from a hot dude…. That’s lack of introspection. It’s how apes fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:44 AM
4

Dad was the best dad a guy could ask for. Not a huge fan of my mom as she coasted through life on her good looks, which eventually led my dad to leave her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:40 AM
2

Sounds like a gold diggers version of “I NEVER do this”… heard right before I smash some chick I just met. Sure you don’t, chick… you’re as chaste as they come massive eye roll
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 10:14 PM
3

Hellz yeah!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 09:12 PM
2

I’m saying what you see as RJ I see as “not sexually compatible”. The less dudes she’s banged, the less special I feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 09:12 PM
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It just means don’t be with a person who is always making you prove your love to them. The bar is “reciprocated energy” and you won’t settle for less no matter how badly your dick/vag wants him/her
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 08:40 PM
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TRP focuses on trends… so yes, it’s not a 100% solution. No guy is attractive to every chick. But top guys exist because trend data shows that more women are attracted to them than they are to most chicks
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:32 PM
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I know someone already said this but youth… I like older chicks. Always have. They’re usually much more mature and aren’t controlled by their emotions… but also super down to earth. I can’t tell you why that connects to my physical preference. Edit to add: fuck porn sites for peddling “barely 18”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 05:31 PM
5

While I agree with your point, using your great grandmother as anecdotal evidence kinda detracts from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 05:20 PM
2

Typo? I don’t understand your reply
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 05:18 PM
2

How is stating that women treat short dudes like shit in the dating world incel content?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 05:03 PM
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The vast majority of men couldn’t use women for sex if they tried, the vast majority of women could prevent themselves being uses for sex if they tried. That’s the distinction. The guys able to use women for sex are the minority. The ones who actually do are a subset. By definition, the percentage of women who continually get used for sex is greater than the percentage of guys who use women for sex… so really the common denominator is women. I’m not saying women are more at fault on the individu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:57 PM
1

My post or the one I replied to?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:40 PM
1

Valid, but concerns in the real world are met with contempt due to the WAW effect… the result is the same… women don’t take culpability for guys using them for sex repeatedly. The common denominator is ignored when it’s an uncomfortable truth
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:59 PM
1

Yes, I’m saying in this sub lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:54 PM
1

Their own culpability in repeated pump and dumps
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:25 PM
2

Can you elaborate on the difference between “What’s good. 👀” and “😎” It’s for science
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:04 PM
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I don’t think it’s jealousy as much as it is “I’m not really special if you’ve done this with half the town.” Just like you wouldn’t feel special if all your gal friends knew me because I take them ok fancy vacations, sent them elaborate gifts and displays of affection, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 11:58 AM
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It’s funny because you lose me in paragraph 2. Studies align with my perception. Men rate each other lower and women fairly (a 5 is a 5). Women over rate each other (a 5 is a 7), and slightly under rate men (a 6 is a 5)… Men don’t want to regulate sex (that’s the women… see the existence of only fans). Men are simply arguing that women aren’t getting pumped and dump because men suck, they’re getting pumped and dumped because they chase after men who think those women suck and are only worth what…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 11:56 AM
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Honestly when I was being my sluttiest self, I wasn’t bringing all the women to my house. I had sex with 5 chicks over the course of 3 days in one instance and none of them knew about each other. If you were a pump and dump, it was probably giving me head in a parking lot. If you were a ONS, it was probably at your place or in the car (I know, I’m as classy as the women I fuck). If you were a FWB it was probably flip a coin to see where we’re gonna do it (my place or yours). Blowing me in an aba…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:01 PM
1

Honestly… it’s hard for guys to understand WHY women do what they do. That’s why TRP puts a male rationale behind it… because the actions themselves are a good path forward. Why is more for experienced men. Can’t get experience without getting results.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:41 PM
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Yes, but I also agree that it requires male vetting to avoid the chicks that will try every dick on the planet to decide which one she wants the most. Good sex isn’t some crazy bar that guys can’t hit. Literally just don’t expect men to be mind readers. I’ve never failed to make a chick orgasm when she was in an LTR with me, because communication is key. If you can’t communicate your desires, that’s on you. If I don’t TRY to fulfill your desires after being told what you like, that’s on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:39 PM
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Men have to take note of actions, just like women. The difference is, men won’t get laid if they don’t vet based on actions. If she doesn’t sleep with you, she doesn’t want to date you. That’s the bottom line.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:29 PM
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Don’t know, don’t care. There’s chicks that jumped into bed with me and probably had the time of their life… but realized I wasn’t into the LTR thing with them so they picked someone more comfortable… doesn’t mean she likes me more. It just means she was more sexually attracted to me at the time, and that fit her momentary needs vs long terms wants. Hell, there’s some chicks that have super high sex drives and are available to me 24/7 to fuck… but that doesn’t mean I’m gonna toss my girlfriend a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:23 PM
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Edited
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:39 PM
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Wasn’t meant to be personal. Just the bare bones what my mind processes in a relationship and where I put my boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:20 PM
6

Today on “why statistics should be a yearly requirement in school”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 12:23 PM
1

For women… very little. For men, you have to fuck more fat chicks if you’re average. There’s a reason I picture an obese chick every time I think about an OLD profile with “No hookups!! Serious inquiries only!!” in the bio…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 12:21 PM
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Ohhhh… no that’s normal I thought you meant he “forced” you to watch videos of him and his ex… like against your wishes, but you weren’t jealous cuz she’s dead
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 09:53 PM
0

It’s already been proven than men underestimate themselves and women overestimate themselves. Women also rate other women as more attractive than they actually are while men rate on an actual curve (average is average)…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 09:18 PM
1

What. The. Fuck. Did I read this correctly?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 09:05 PM
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They DO want sex just as much… they just don’t have active sex drives and they don’t want sex with someone they don’t know unless the risk of harm is diminished by “damn he’s hot”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 09:04 PM
1

To orgasm from PIV sex I agree it usually comes (pun intended) from clit stimulation rather than just ramming it in there… but I think a combination of both at the same time is great for most women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 03:51 PM
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It will come off as creepy and they’ll never get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 03:49 PM
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It’s a dumb phrase used by dumb people who want to pretend they’ve never been hurt romantically. I use it ironically to break the tension if someone is sarcastically complaining about how hard their life is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 03:23 PM
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No one is forcing women to form harems with guys who don’t want to stick around to watch their kids grow up. The single mom pandemic with increased male sexlessness just tells me that the victim mindset is growing and personal accountability is out the window. Marriage exists to prevent absent dads. If you try to go around that system, don’t bitch when he bails and it bites you on the ass. I shouldn’t have to tell you that Derek who just got promoted to cashier at McDonalds at 30 isn’t going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 01:19 PM
0

Honestly bro I’d argue it’s both
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 12:40 PM
2

Writing it was tough, I’m trying to make it a thing tho lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 12:39 PM
2

I mean he could easily find love… but risking your long term health to find someone who “loves you for you” is something I rarely find coming from a place of strength. Get in the gym, go for a run (I know, I hate it too!)… but that’s just for a better, longer life… EVEN IF you never find love
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 12:38 PM
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My attraction only grows with time as long as she maintains her attraction to me. The only time I’ve ever lost attraction in LTRs is when… She continually nags me about everything under the sun and nothing I do to reassure her helps (you can’t fix someone projecting their miserable attitude on you, no matter how positive you are) She subtly withdrew affection towards me for new and shinier dudes who had the “excitement” of giving her a smack down every once in awhile. I don’t put my hands on wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:44 PM
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Currently love someone dearly, but if it doesn’t work I’m content never finding love if I do my best to be the best me possible. You can’t do much else. I think “be yourself” is shit advice for women that only works for women. For men it’s “try your best to be your best.” Sure, some people don’t have to try to get what they want… but do you want to slack off and take a participation trophy, or do you want to work hard to catch someone that works hard to catch you? Your friend wants energy withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:32 PM
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Chad fishing tells me what I already know… women have easy access to sex with top tier dudes, and the chicks that want to act on that go straight to OLD. All the other stuff is hamstering. If these really are the bottom of the barrel chicks like you describe… I don’t know why PPD chicks work so hard to defend how it makes all women look.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:28 PM
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Sounds good doesn’t work. Signed me, a dude who has fucked more chicks than any chick who has told me she wants a “good guy”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:58 PM
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Doesn’t matter how unattractive women get… average dudes will still simp for average pussy. You think all this body positivity is coming from a place of thirstlessness?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:53 PM
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And what’s the advice for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:51 PM
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I don’t really give two shits. If you don’t treat me as well as I treat you… someone else will. She gives half ass energy…. I give half ass energy. Treat others the way you want to be treated. It goes both ways and we all were taught that in Kindergarten… not my fault some people can’t grasp basic empathy 101
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:21 PM
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I don’t ever simp. I match your energy. If we stop talking it’s because your energy was low to non existent and I matched it. If our sex is shit it’s because Im only as invested as you are… it’s all I ask in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:16 PM
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Cuz I see that even with the chicks I’m not remotely attracted to are making up rules for dudes they don’t want to fuck and breaking rules for dudes they do. It’s easier to say “all women” and filter from there then try to give the average dudes tons of info and exceptions to the rules right off the bat Men follow trends and filter the exceptional from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:03 PM
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Advice for men: Ever changing, miles long list… Advice for women: Fog a mirror
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:47 AM
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Good points, dude! I’ve had women say “guys get too comfortable around me, and comfort is boring! I need a man who is gonna call me out on my shit!” While I don’t necessarily agree that acting like an entitled brat just to see if guys will risk easy pussy and call you out on your shit is a good dating strategy… it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:10 PM
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Never said we were. Strawman much? Any women in their league would cuck them then bitch about being Nexted… this is where the dating market currently is lol Except the men who are bitching about women not giving them a chance don’t pick lol… they’re not given the chance. Women are doing the picking then playing victim and blaming all dudes based on their shitty choices… see the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:57 PM
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Valid… I fuck toxic women, but never commit… this is my sexual strategy between relationships. Statistics say that women continue to casually fuck dudes that don’t want to settle. Hence why male sexlessness is increasing at a much higher rate than female sexlessness… and both genders lie in the opposite direction so it’s probably worse than it’s even being reported
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:52 PM
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Yes, because women try to use casual sex to get commitment… that’s my point homie
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 02:56 AM
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Thank you! Plus, as a guy, I think it will show dudes that just having sex with a chick who wants nothing more to do with you (and vice versus) will never fill that void.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:29 PM
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Women raise their looks standards for casual sex and lower the type of BS they are willing to put up with… then they blame dudes they would never dare for men not doing “the bare minimum”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:26 PM
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As a dude, all most women want to hear is their idea parroted back at them with enough difference to convince her you have your own brain… Hence why most dudes don’t really talk politics. Easier to just lie for the short term if you only want her for the short term… An LTR… you can make it work if you’re both mature about it. But people nowadays are so polarized and immature that it holds them back from tons of shit they don’t even realize
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:17 PM
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Literally has happened to me a fuck ton. Every chick I casually sleep with has 4-5 dudes that are way better suited for her and treat her better that she “just doesn’t feel a spark with” or, in regular people speak, “treat her as a priority and not one of many options” Don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:10 PM
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Never said they were. Being toxic gets me laid more than being nice. If only women took their own advice. See WAATGM Lol they don’t try and quit. They try and keep trying until who they fuck casually won’t even fuck them anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:08 PM
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You’re implying sex for the average dude is just as easy to get as sex for the average chick… that’s patently false. It seems like your definition of average men is above average. Again, I’ll go tell me bros they’re losers cuz some chick on Reddit says so. Doesn’t matter how awesome their personalities are, and how much they go out of their way to make sure they don’t treat women like shit… it’s never the chicks fault for attempting to trade sex with dudes who don’t want them for commitment. Gre…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:04 PM
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Yes, every person here who has had sex has had to tell their partner how to please them… I swear sometimes I wonder if the people here have ever gotten laid. It’s WAY easier to get a dude off, but I have had to teach each chick how to get me excited. I don’t consider it a chore to communicate my deaires… that’s the difference. “Just stop and let her finish”…. Is this a troll right now?? Do you jot realize how VASTLY different it is for some women to get off? I’ve literally got most of my female …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 02:57 PM
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Women want LTRs over sex, but set the bar low for attractive dudes who want casual sex. Men want sex over LTRs, but are willing to compromise on looks to get easy sex. So men raise the bar for a more permanent relationship, and women raise the bar for a more casual relationship, then get upset when they only get a casual relationship from the guys they attempt to trade sex for an LTR with. Must be tough having a sexual advantage and still not being able to figure it out /sarc
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 02:55 PM
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Yes of course…. I’m not a woman, so I don’t see sex as a chore, and I don’t see it as leverage. Most dudes are not attractive enough to do so either… or they’ll never get laid. But I will next any chick who think making her orgasm is some hidden secret that I need to guess in order to keep her around. No, just tell me what you like and I’ll make it happen. In my experience, women use sex to try to score commitment from a better looking dude, then get confused when that frat bro nuts in your mout…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:41 AM
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I mean it’s not my tactic… but I guess it depends on the amount of time you spent before you hit. If you’re telling a girl date 1 that you love her and want to spend the rest of your life with her… and she sleeps with you because of that…. I feel like you’re not really being “moral”, but she needs to take responsibility for not having any common sense. And unless I missed something, half the chicks in the world didn’t send money to some dude in Africa claiming to be a Prince, so I HIGHLY doubt i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:28 AM
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So the large amount of gorgeous dudes treat women like shit, and the minority of ugly dudes women were so gracious to “give a chance” also treat them like shit? But it’s not your vetting that’s shit? Are you sure there’s not some circular reasoning going on? I find it HIGHLY suspect that you’re claiming that ugly dudes treat women just as bad as gorgeous dudes… and even if that’s the case, wouldn’t incense take that to mean that treating women like shit will at least get your foot in the door?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:24 AM
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Women set the bar low for dudes they want more… then bitch when the dudes don’t want more than sex. The ugly dudes aren’t even a part of the convo lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:32 AM
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I’m talking about treating her like he wants to be treated… not about doing shit around the house. This is step 1 stuff… you’re in step 20
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 08:13 PM
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Oh we’re all good then! I’ll go tell my average bros that they can keep getting duty sex from those overweight entitled chicks until Ms. “I need to find myself” gets bored of swallowing some frat dudes on the weekend and makes my average bros take her one dates and be a true gentleman for…. You guessed it… more duty sex!! Be greatful for the jaded sloppy seconds, boys! It’s what you get for being born average!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 06:25 PM
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I’m in a position where most chicks try to prove themselves with sex and making sure they do all the wild, crazy, fun stuff to keep me around. That’s awesome for a short term fling, but I want a girl that’s gonna stick around (and currently have one) because she is having a blast in the sack. It takes good communication honestly… but HOW to communicate is hard for women most times. I simply just say that I’m happy they go through a lot of trouble to do all the kinky stuff I like and make me cum …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 06:19 PM
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I mean it depends on how she communicates why she doesn’t want to have sex. If she blames it on chores or other shit… it’s probably going to continue to spiral. Now I get that chores are now increased, but I’m talking she feels fine physically but is just stressed and chalks it up to “fuck it I’ll tell him he’s not doing enough chores cuz I don’t want to have sex”…. Prob not the best path forward. Figure out why you don’t want to have sex, and fix it if you can. If you can’t fix it or don’t want…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 06:12 PM
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Why isn’t this higher? Avoid the toxic dudes who have tons of options and it’ll go away on its own. You’re never gonna stop desperate chicks from blowing hot dudes… Why are the other women coping with their shit choice of dudes by saying ugly dudes won’t treat them better? Biggest strawman on this sub besides “incels would rape me if I gave them a chance”…. Lol like rapists need consent to rape or something. What the fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 06:07 PM
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I’d honestly rather be an incel than deal with a toxic chick who holds pussy over my head You’re telling guys who can’t get laid to not be losers… that’s not lost on you right? I don’t whine about high libido women… I’m a big fan. What part of my replies gave you that inclination?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 06:04 PM
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Oh yeah I def agree it happens. And never would I leave a GF for a chick who is interested in me just because I have a GF lol. If I’m leaving a chick it’s because I don’t want to be with her… not because I think I might like someone more… I feel the latter is what burns a lot of women more than men. Cuz guys will actually draw it out to keep her in the fuck zone
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 05:59 PM
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We’re gonna try to fix a problem when you bitch about it. This doesn’t make us misogynists, and it doesn’t mean we’re trying to “mansplain” it to you… we just can’t fathom spending more energy “talking” about a problem than actually talking about fixing a problem, then attempting to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:59 AM
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Spittin. Women would rather feel good about a decision than make a good one. Hence why a lot of dudes treat them like children and just say shit like “oh yeah you’re totally right… that guy IS a piece of shit because he’s not attractive!”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:57 AM
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It boils down to guys deciding if they’d rather be the Casual sex partner than show their decent side later if and when he decides she is relationship material… or if they’d rather just be waiting for women to get tired of being sport fucked by the former… Rather be the asshole she cries about than the shoulder she cries on that “is such a good friend”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:54 AM
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Dodged a bullet with that first one… crazy AF
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:47 AM
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It’s hilarious cuz I’m a dude and I’m like “stop fucking dudes because they’re attractive and faked being decent for a week. Ted Bundy would be fucking your dead corpse if he lived near us.” They don’t like to hear it, but it works lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:45 AM
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There’s a difference between women being attracted to someone else and actually wanting to date someone else. Crushes are for school girls. Look up a “secure” relationship style. It’s kinda bloop and dumb in its explanation, but basically you need to be comfortable breaking it off with a chick who’s eyes are always moving to the next target. Just cuz it was your turn to be with her doesn’t mean she’s gonna be good long term. You need to next any chick that makes you uncomfortable with how she tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:41 AM
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Expound?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:23 AM
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Shit, I’m sure my fellow bros are in. They’ll pay for sex… If their female counterparts (the pump & dumpees) pay for dates/commitment. Sounds a lot like trad con tbh, but hey that’s your idea. Yep, don’t be a loser, shower more, be attractive, don’t be unattractive, be a man. I’ll be sure to pass on that info to guys struggling getting laid and tell them some woman on the internet has it all figured out. What if I told you that every chick I’ve ever dated that had a high libido was loyal as fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:22 AM
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I consider some shit testing a form of emotional abuse. But I would never answer emotional abuse with violence. Walk away from your abuser… There’s no victims here, we don’t enable other adults to be shitty humans… walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 03:15 AM
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I agree that some of it is just wanting what other women want… but you’d be silly to think it can’t be leveraged into casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 08:00 PM
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You want dudes to pay for sex? I agree dudes shouldn’t chase shitty prima donnas. But for dudes to UP their potential dating prospects, all guys have to be less thirsty… for women to do so, they just have to stop chasing guys that aren’t interested in LTRs with them. Again, we’re not women… turning us down doesn’t turn us on and make us want to prove ourselves (not most of us at least) Still the sane request, match our effort/energy… stop hamstering that into “give us the secks”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 07:57 PM
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So we’re comparing incel plights to the plights of the average woman? Thanks for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 07:11 PM
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Nope. If we wanted to fuck hookers we’d fuck hookers. Most men would agree that women treat us based on how they feel about us, then get upset when our commitment doesn’t match their thirst… then they turn around and wonder why all the guys that once showed interest bailed for chicks who don’t expect love to just be thrown at them because they were born with a vagina. That’s the crux
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 06:18 PM
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Yeah same. I’m just a salty baseball player who sucks at golf (seriously fuck that game) lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 06:16 PM
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Birth control is super effective Abortion is (mostly) legal. Question: In your opinion, women are more worried about giving birth to a genetically EQUAL man than they are about getting single mom’d by a genetically SUPERIOR man? My point is that women are only subjectively more “sexually” attractive because of male thirst. Not many of the dudes that women try to trade sex for a relationship with actually end up LTR’d with those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 06:14 PM
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No. I’m not a chick, so I say what I mean and mean what I say. Contribute equal energy if you’re interested, that’s all most men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 06:11 PM
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Today on victimization and why women are never responsible for their own decisions. I swear if I made half the claims women made about themselves I’d be called a misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:42 PM
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I’ve fucked chicks I wasn’t attracted to. Men have active libidos women have mostly passive libidos. Has nothing to do with a huge attractiveness gap between genders. If male libidos plummeted over night women would be trying to fuck any dude they could
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:41 PM
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I treat women the way they treat me. If they don’t like the way they’re treated… well… be better to get better
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:38 PM
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Walking everywhere is sportier than diving catches, slides, off balance throws, and split second decision making. I know baseball can be boring to watch, but it definitely takes more athleticism. Old dudes and trust fund babies play golf
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:37 PM
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Oh yeah good point
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:47 PM
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I don’t know man… I ALWAYS get hit on more when my girlfriend is around…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:46 PM
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I see your penis took over for your brain. Put one foot in front of the other and do that faster and faster
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:58 PM
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Laugh in face, move on…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:55 PM
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Sounds good, sometimes works. I dated 2 absolute crazy bitches that had great dads… and I’ve dated a couple great gals who had 0 father figure growing up. Some women just have (or learn) introspection, and some just bump around and let life happen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:54 PM
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Facts. Imagine not caring about someone unless it directly benefits you. Solipsism
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:52 PM
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You take that back!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:48 PM
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Yes, pretty privilege all but destroys ones introspection. My mom was literally a model and always sport bitched about how hard it was because everyone put her on a pedestal. I once asked her to imagine still dealing with that shit, but getting less “free” shit because her pedestal was shorter because she was less attractive… and I could see her brain momentarily sputter and stop working for a second. It’s like when rich people bitch about rich people problems. Don’t think for a second they woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:47 PM
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This! Trust me, boys, as a guy who’s had a lot of ONSs, she will break rules to fuck who she wants and put up barriers for the guy she doesn’t want anymore (regardless of what he does). Then she’ll backwards rationalize everything to not be her fault. Ask yourself if you’ve ever heard a woman take responsibility for hurting a guy. It doesn’t mean shit to them. If she wants to treat sex like a bargaining chip it’s over. Go fuck someone who wants to fuck you. Don’t do circus tricks for someone who…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:18 AM
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Me, for one I debate both Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:21 AM
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But you can’t predict the future by only looking at the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:20 AM
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That’s comparing apples to oranges. You cannot force someone to go to the gym. You cannot force someone to eat healthier… you can support someone, but you cannot change them without them making the effort to change. Relationship resumes don’t exist because (spoiler alert) everyone would just lie and say they never did anything wrong in the relationship and the other person was shit. Those are massive false equivalencies my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 08:23 PM
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And it’s far more common in men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 08:08 PM
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Not as important as the present and future imho in this scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 08:07 PM
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No, but the measures I take to avoid impregnating a woman is fucking massive the less I know her
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 02:04 PM
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Women are sexless by choice. Men are sexless by lack of choice… it’s simple supply vs demand. No one sees a virgin dude in a positive light. People assume virgin women are just chaste rather than romantic failures
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 02:02 PM
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Leave the past in the past until it’s pertinent. If she starts exhibiting toxic behaviors, just dump her. You don’t need to know that other dudes dumped her for being the same level of toxic. You can fix someone, they gotta take the initiative
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 01:54 PM
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Because feminism in most peoples definition means “we can be like dudes too” instead of “feminist traits are equal to masculine traits… it’s just different, and different ain’t always bad.” I consider myself a feminist, but not in the way most people consider themselves a feminist. I want equality, not virtue signaling. Also, cuz it’s a debate sub. I come to debate, not circle jerk
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 01:42 PM
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Oh my bad, I have a penis so I’m not supposed to give my opinion. /sarc You can argue a point, or debate, without personally agreeing with that point. Since this is a debate sub, I often choose to define feminism by how most people define it… then use a counter argument against that definition..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 01:23 PM
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Yes, not caring about someone else’s hardships (I.e. someone getting cheated on) is the definition of lacking empathy… Zebras don’t give a shit when big cats roll up and massacre a few fellow zebras. Zebras don’t have empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 01:20 PM
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Congrats on the Penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 01:18 PM
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I think it’s funny how women try to convince everyone that TRP is for incels. It’s also worked for me, a guy who has NEVER struggled to find sex… it has helped me vet toxic women way quicker and kick those wastes of space to the curb. With all the “toxic masculity/red flag” bs being peddled, it’s tough to admit that maybe, just maybe… women are just as fucking toxic as dudes. I know, I know… you’re a queen because you have a vagina and there’s dudes that will circle jerk your opinion back to you…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:02 PM
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We won’t commit. We will smash. Big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:58 PM
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I am 100% on board with legalizing prostitution in the US. It won’t solve all the problems, but it will show my fellow bros that sex with some randos ain’t it… it’s hard to convince virgins that sex can get old if the chick is dull AF
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:57 PM
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So you’re basing/rationalizing your actions/empathy on the worst case scenario for lack of empathy on the part of the opposite gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:55 PM
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I don’t know what everyone else is talking about… looksmaxx is good for guys cuz it gets us laid. Looksmaxxing is good for women, but plastic surgery the way it is today looks disgusting to me. Diet and exercise will make you look better and keep you healthier longer. I’m always on board with that… BUT, on the flip side, guys are almost always going to want to fuck you. Being a black pill woman just means you get more temporary access to hotter dudes. No self respecting guy is gonna put up with …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:50 PM
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Not to me… but feminism is always changing, and it has definitely gone through stages of “any rhetoric that calls out women’s toxic behavior is misogynistic”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:46 PM
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Welcome to feminism X.0
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 11:44 AM
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Honestly part of the reason I found TRP (and part of the reason I agree with some of the stuff) is because I was tired of my good to do bros getting absolutely abused in the dating world and not being able to give them advice besides shrugging my shoulder and saying “I don’t know, chicks are weird brah”. The boyfriend is 100% right and every time I hear a chick giving shit advice to counter my advice I always bluntly say “how many chicks has she fucked? How many chicks has she dated? How many wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 11:41 AM
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Lol I already believe it…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 11:35 AM
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Can’t be a debate sub if everyone agrees all the time lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 10:00 PM
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Everyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 09:00 PM
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What is fake and doctored ? The tinder thing? Proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 08:53 PM
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We can weaponize it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 08:09 PM
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Oh no, just that women are trying to be more masculine for whatever reason, probably feminism/woke culture
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 08:04 PM
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Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 08:03 PM
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Edited
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 05:14 PM
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Women are still more drawn to masculine features/behaviors in men, but have themselves become more masculine in behavior… And the reverse is true. Men are still drawn to more feminine features/behaviors, but have themselves become more feminine in behavior This is partially because a lot of “masculine” traits are now seen as “toxic”, regardless of whether they are or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 04:53 PM
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Experiment? Call it what you want the results are more valid than dating trends from 20+ years ago IMHO
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 04:51 PM
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Traits as in physical traits AND behaviors
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 04:40 PM
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When you said “what’s up fucks” I knew you were talking to me lol… I think we’re reaching the peak of toxic feminism. Women are saying “why can’t I fuck all these dudes I want to?? Why don’t men want me to have sex?” When men are saying “Why are all these chicks sport bitching about being pumped and dumped when I can barely score a date without getting ghosted first for that guy she said was just a friend?” In reality, feminism is less “celebrate feminist characteristics” and is more “we can be …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 04:31 PM
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So female nature is female nature. Are the feminists and promiscuous women of today MORE masculine? Yes. But they also desire more masculine traits in their men. This is why dating is tough for everyone… women are getting laid by tons of dudes then wondering why no one wants to commit. And guys are trying to fuck a bunch of promiscuous women and wondering why there aren’t more women to fuck. That’s why TRP says “enjoy the decline”. Both genders are attempting to fill their gender assigned prerog…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 04:23 PM
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No, most men don’t want to commit before sex… they just can’t get sex without commitment. Most men’s definition of a committed relationship is getting enthusiastic sex because she loves him and is attracted to him. Most women’s definition of a committed relationship changes based on how attracted she is to him, which she will backwards rationalize as his fault (when she starts to lose attraction). In essence, women who think being used for sex sucks haven’t been used as a utility their whole liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 04:18 PM
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Do fine = duty sex after the honeymoon phase?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 04:11 PM
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Not if I can get it… men usually want sex with some chicks and relationships and sex with others. Most men cannot get sex without the commitment part first tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 03:15 PM
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The most recent one I reference is women attempting to fuck an unapologetic child rapist… I’m guessing OLD has not gotten better
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 03:12 PM
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I think if I’m consistently the one asking you out, planning dates, etc… I’m more likely to see you as an expensive FWB. Once a cheaper one comes along, you’re SOL. If you’re matching my energy and aren’t a total POS, nothing another woman can do will ever matter. I’m sticking it out with you until you decide that you would rather receive than give attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 03:10 PM
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I mean that’s kind of on them… it’s not hard to wear a condom. Hell, if I’m not ready to have kids with my SO, it’s gonna take a fluke of nature for her to get preggers lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:22 PM
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Not me personally, but I also don’t need daddy government to tell me who to have kids with and who to not have kids with. But nobody has personal responsibility today so it is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 07:19 PM
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guys taking notes Ok, ok don’t be pistachio flavored women taking notes Ok, ok don’t let him leap into my cone so quickly The analogy is valid!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 06:28 PM
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Be alpha, best women and tell them to stay in the kitchen /sarc I don’t act like a trad dude cuz I don’t want a trad chick. Times changing means both sexes have to adapt and “git gud” not just dudes. I’m not gonna up my game just because I was born without a pussy… I’m upping my game cuz I want a better woman that just a housewife with no career aspiration
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 06:22 PM
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I agree, but under the law I don’t think there’s an incentive to be a present father… there’s definitely incentives to be a single mom though, which is counter productive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 06:21 PM
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Disparity in sex drive goes away if a woman is extremely attracted to a dude, and you can’t reject supply Vs demand. It’s a cause not a symptom imho
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 06:20 PM
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If you’ve ever thought that men care too much about sex, you’ve never had to tell a chick you don’t want to keep sleeping with her. There’s a reason the phrase “hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.” exists… and it’s not because women take “I don’t want to have sex with you anymore” with grace. OP is saying men do stupid shit to continue getting laid… this isn’t news. Some men will do backflips for pussy just as much as some women will do backflips to be with a dude that obviously just wants t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 03:56 PM
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Women do all of that… just not nearly as often as men… but those men aren’t usually incels, was the actual point. Literally every argument from women on PPD ends with “but men rape”. Biggest strawman ever Also, there’s literally a top post on Reddit right now of a chick groping the guy dressed as Gaston at Disney World so… yeah. If that was a dude griping a chick he’d be in jail and be a registered child sex offender since kids were around.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 03:36 PM
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Lol high libido doesn’t mean you rape people. Our of the many women I’ve dated and/or slept with, I can tell you that maybe 1 or two had lower libidos than I did and it was mainly due to birth control and/or health defects. I think many women here confuse “low libido” with a passive sex drive that is mainly the result of a plethora of sexual options. Rapists don’t rape cuz they’re horny, otherwise incels would be doing all the raping. Why people here sho have 0 experience with actual rape cases …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 03:11 PM
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It’s actually not neglect if the father is leaving the kid with the mother Iirc… My point is not that it’s not “wrong”… I would NEVER abandon my kid… OR stop fighting for custody if it came to that. My point is that men WILL do that… I’d rather come up with benefits that FAR outweigh just straight up disappearing on your family.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 03:08 PM
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Full commitment up front is weird AF. Just cuz you wanna bang her doesn’t mean she’s wifey material. She knows this, you know this. You need to use what’s left of the blood in brain to remind yourself of this. If some chick came up to you in the bar begging to suck your dick are you gonna be weirded out? Are you gonna think she’s capable of making rational decisions as an adult?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 02:50 PM
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Up until around 30-35 sure… I’ll let you decide why that is. There’s a reason people say “sex sells”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 02:46 PM
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I mean sex is supposed to be fun… so “sometimes” having fun is weird AF to me. I have fun almost every time, but I also don’t attempt to leverage sex into a relationship. Like I said, don’t monetize your sex life then get upset with the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 02:43 PM
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I mean absent fathers wouldn’t be absent fathers if it benefited them more to be present.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 02:40 PM
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The first comment I replied to mentioned obsession… which is why I brought it up in my reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 05:44 PM
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Not arguing, just stating that it should be common knowledge that guys think about sex a lot and will do a lot of shit women wouldn’t to get sex… and that’s not necessarily being “obsessed” with sex. It’s more supply vs demand
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 05:24 PM
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I mean it’s not really my preferred tactic but I know dudes who just pay child support when they can and daddy government and the baby momma take care of the rest while they hang out with their new boo… seems to be the most cost effective way for a lot of dudes…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 03:33 PM
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Men’s current preference is based on women’s though. Men wouldn’t be obsessed with being “alpha, Chad”, or whatever fuck stick name people are using… if it didn’t work to their advantage… based on how women treat those types of dudes…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 03:08 PM
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My assertion is that I’m separating morality from it, since I don’t think “morality” matters at all (and even might hurt ones prospects) when it comes to casual sex. In fact, I’d argue woman would agree and amplify that assertion. Reference that Tinder profile of a child rapist getting tons of pussy thrown at him. And I’m also not using extremes to describe people who do what it takes to get laid. I don’t think women understand how much effort an average dude has to put in to get laid, because m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 03:06 PM
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My point is that if it takes men being “deceitful” to get laid, it also takes women being oblivious to the fact that men will be deceitful to get laid… which is something anyone with even below average intelligence is able to figure out. I don’t need many brain cells to tell me that most women prefer to go on a date to Ruth’s Chris than McDonalds… so if I assume that women are oblivious to the fact that guys will lie to get sex, I’d have to assume that most women are brain dead or straight up ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 02:56 PM
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I wouldn’t say I’m anxious about previous SO’s… I’m just not interested in dating a chick that was some dudes safety snatch. Being nothing more than a notch on someone’s belt shows that you lack introspection, and I don’t want someone to use me to increase their self worth. That’s insecure and will tank ANY relationship quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 02:51 PM
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“Doing what it takes to get laid” =/= “centering their lives around sex” for most men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 02:00 PM
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The key imho is to have enough introspection to know if you actually like them for who they are… or if you’re just chasing them because you think the grass is greener. Negging works for people who don’t have a lot of relationship experience (myself included), or people who lack introspection
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 01:59 PM
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I do what works to get a job. That doesn’t mean my life’s goal is my job. Maybe “doing what it takes to get laid” for some dudes is being a total Dick head to low self esteem girls. That doesn’t mean they’re not decent people, by and large… Some guys don’t have to even think to get laid. That doesn’t mean they are any better than guys that do… that’s more your assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 01:52 PM
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It’s only considered “deceitful” if it doesn’t align with the woman’s covert tactic. Men want sex just for sex. Women, by and large, want sex because they think they can leverage it into commitment. Most women don’t wake up thinking, “boy, I hope I can score some Dick today”. But most men do wake up hoping they can get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 01:49 PM
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Yeah I guess my point was that they don’t have to say it to convey the message
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 01:47 PM
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No thanks, don’t need a larger pool of single moms out there crying about how Derek the aderrall dealer wasn’t ready to have kids when she was.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 11:01 AM
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Women claim to not like dudes who have a ton of sex, which is an oxymoron because the dudes who are in high demand have the most sex… and the #1 thing chicks bitch about is getting “played” by a guy who just wanted you for sex… so essentially all men hear is that women get their hearts broke by man whores but don’t like man whores?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 10:57 AM
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Yes, guys do what it takes to get laid… that’s literally something anyone should’ve learned around puberty
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 10:51 AM
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And yet fuckboys out there still getting laid. Go ahead, hit me with the #notallwomen Rarely have I ever seen “he just wants to fuck you” result in the dude in question NOT getting laid lol. What do you call it when someone claims to know the answers to the test but still fails every time
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 10:48 AM
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Where did anyone say that that is the best path forward? And, ironically enough, the only dudes that have sex with chicks whenever they want are guys that engage in casual sex… so you’re essentially saying it’s better for a dude to just get a chick pregnant and bounce right? She sees sex as labor so why not make your dollar go further?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 10:39 AM
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Pre selection. Don’t pretend that conventionally masculine dudes aren’t getting laid more than conventionally feminine dudes if all other things are equal
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 12:20 AM
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Honestly it’s a losing game. You can’t 100% guarantee she hasn’t had casual sex in the past. Hell, maybe she’ll even desire it once you two get together and leave you to get railed by some dude who doesn’t care… The thing I focus on is making sure to vet for women who prefer relationship sex over casual sex (like me)… and like someone else said you gotta act like you don’t give a fuck either way until she spills the beans one way or the other
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 12:18 AM
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There’s a difference between choosing who you want to be with and choosing a guy that you can’t say no too… I would argue my scenario is more autonomous
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 12:13 AM
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So men are punished for more commitment? Or it’s a never ending game of “do more chores or you’re not getting laid”?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 12:11 AM
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Why marry? Why have kids? That’s a terrible way to view sex with an SO and/or the father of your kids
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 10:45 PM
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If dudes wanted to exchange money for sex we’d buy a prostitute. We want intimacy with the woman who we love, not a bargaining chip for the possibility for increased frequency of duty sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:32 PM
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As a guy who’s dated single moms… the sex is just as frequent with 0 chores on my behalf… The “solutions” often involve doing chores that, statistically, don’t matter for shit when it comes to increased intimacy. There is no difference between frequency of sex after kids when “splitting housework” is separated as a variable… I’m assuming guys try that then they’re like “nope, still nothing getting laid. Fuck that.” Dudes are results driven. We don’t work harder for the same pay
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:31 PM
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I mean I don’t have kids so I wouldn’t know… but i don’t want to have kids unless im with a woman that makes roughly the same as me so I can justify doing roughly equal work/raising. I don’t really think it’s fair to assume you’ve got an absent father if he’s fulfilling the traditional role… but I don’t want to fill a traditional role. And I don’t want kids until I’ve been married long enough to enjoy all the married without kids perks. On the contrary, men know that women will move mountains to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:19 PM
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Yes, but men don’t trust that because they’re used to women making up BS excuses for why they want men around for utility but not sex. See “I’m too tired”, “my head hurts”, “I’ve had a long day”, “my back hurts”… which is why a lot of guys just chalk it up to “I’m not gonna be intimate with her anymore, might as well cut my losses and find someone who will make excuses to fuck me instead of make excuses as to why they don’t want to”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:06 PM
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Men want to find solutions to lack of intimacy… women just want to acknowledge it exists then play the blame game
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:54 PM
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Facts mean nothing bro lol it’s PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:53 PM
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You can get that “sacrifice” by being an absent baby daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:44 PM
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Simps don’t mean shit. Secure dudes will not dump for a bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:43 PM
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Not being a decent person. Not being somewhat attractive. The rest can get the “U UP?” Text
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:37 PM
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I’ve actually learned that women are loosening that aspect of vetting. Making roughly the same as her and being attractive (lol I know that’s tougher) is working better than being “OK” looking and rich AF
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 04:09 PM
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So it’s the man’s fault he is running into mentally ill women most of the time? And it’s not a woman’s lack of introspection for dating dickheads? Like I said, if you’re pining after toxic people you need to self assess
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 04:07 PM
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File this in the “sounds good; doesn’t work” category. Tried and got burned too many times for it to be coincidence. And women wonder why we tell em what they wanna hear. They’re gonna hear what makes them “feel” best about themselves anyways tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:28 AM
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Yeah, which is why I always say marry up financially and always get a pre nup if you aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:25 AM
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Chuckholds vs pickmes… and you forgot pancakes vs waffles… it’s like you are ignoring the important shit
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 07:18 PM
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Since 50% of marriages end in divorce and roughly half of all married people are unhappy I would venture to say >60% of people are not in healthy relationships. I don’t think healthy relationships make up the majority of relationships in the west. Paragraph #2 is the equivalent of saying “every one else’s experiences are anecdotal and my perception represents the true trend”. Again, the vast majority of women are not going to be right for the vast majority of men…. That’s fine. However, women wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 06:16 PM
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She was. And I don’t want to date that type of chick
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 05:08 PM
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I mean as a better looking dude… I can definitely tell that “no good deed goes unpunished” is a HUGE truth in the dating world with respect to most women. All of my guy friends that get laid a ton know that niceness is often perceived as “oh I must be better than him if he’s not treating me like an option”… That’s why dudes laugh when they hear WAATGM If you wake up and realize that the guys who you pine after are the ones who did you the dirtiest… there’s been a lack of introspection. Everyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 04:47 PM
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I don’t know… I’ll take cutesy average looking nerd chick over blond haired bimbo any day… but I have mommy issues so…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 04:43 PM
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Some chicks are gonna flock to harems my guy. Yes it happens, but only with chicks who aren’t really relationship material… unfortunately that sub set is a lot bigger than most people would know. Lack of self control is for immature chicks. If your chick wants to throw away a relationship with you away for a chance to bang a dude who doesn’t give a shit about her, that’s more of a fault with her. Just be glad you got a chance to see her true colors.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 04:39 PM
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Hey that’s actually a good counterpoint… but also doesn’t disprove my point
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 02:18 PM
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I mean just like anything you need to cage your focus on what you know to be true based on your experiences and reject shit that, more often than not, falls flat on its face when implemented.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 03:46 PM
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No matter how ugly a chick is, there’s infinitely more men willing to sleep with her than her looks match male counterpart…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 03:43 PM
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Yes. Which is why I give the advice of matching energy and deciding early to shit can anyone who doesn’t treat you like you as well as you treat them…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 03:42 PM
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Most men haven’t had the experience of a chick pretending to be interested in friendship just to try to fuck him… I think that’s the key difference. And women have far more male “orbiters” than friends that would disappear in an instant if he had future binoculars that revealed he would never sleep with her… but, alas, dudes be thirsty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 03:40 PM
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Couldn’t care less
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 03:33 PM
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Not unless you’re saying the reason the vast majority of guys have to lower their standards for sex is because the vast majority of guys are shit. See male sexlessness statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 03:32 PM
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Attractive dudes can do what you say. Hold out and only have sex with chicks they vibe with and are viscerally attracted to. For the vast majority of dudes, though, the chance of having sex with someone they are remotely attracted to is the only chance they’ll get for possibly that entire year if not more
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 01:00 AM
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I would say when women have less introspection, everyone suffers. There’s already been tons of data to suggest social media is destroying the youth of our nation, and TONS of data to suggest that casual sex is more prevalent than relationship sex, but now available to FAR less men. Yet women still get the ole suprise pikachu face and start playing the victim when that hot dude that they sucked off after knowing for a couple hours doesn’t want to commit right IFF the bat. Just like our economy, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 11:36 AM
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There’s a reason people go on a dating subreddit for advice and it’s not because they make good decisions in the real life dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 11:21 AM
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Valid. Sex for attractive dudes is way easier than ordering pizza. You don’t have to pay, you don’t have to put in any effort. Actually, the more genuine effort you put in the more you’re seen as spineless.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 11:18 AM
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Women ghost more than men. It’s a desire to avoid conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 07:47 PM
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Anecdotal. Like I said the vast majority of ghosting is due to lack of interest. Not texting back due to real life trauma wouldn’t be “ghosting” imho
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:58 PM
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Most ghosting is due to options, and the ghosted person not being one of priority. If a guy would rather be alone than with you, it doesn’t mean he likes you… I don’t see how this confuses anyone. He’s coping with being low libido and not addressing it. The ghosted is coping with not being desirable enough and refusing to move on…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 01:00 PM
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That’s true if anyone says it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:37 AM
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Crying… was told I need to man up for crying at a funeral lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 03:36 PM
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Again, no one needs to be saved from feeling sad about the death of a loved one. Therapy is for people who don’t have emotional responses to traumatic events… because that’s abnormal
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 08:41 PM
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How does one fix emotions? We express them because we’re not robots. Can’t fix feeling sad cuz my dog or my family member died
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 08:15 PM
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Prolly gonna be changed to CMV but yeah I mostly agree. I can tell you anecdotally that the only people who have ever made me feel like shit for showing emotions are women… and that goes double for my average bro friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:23 PM
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I mean I tend to over-analyze things in general… I can’t stop it, it’s just a part of who I am. This means I kick ass at my job(s), which I love, and make a shit ton of money. It also means I work out like a fucking robot and my mental and physical health are outstanding. But that is only the majority of the pie, not the whole thing. Sometimes I wish I could turn it off, but it’s impossible so I decided to focus my extra over-analyzing energy on the most important thing in my eyes at this stage …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 03:09 PM
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Seems like rage bait to be honest. There will always be people who are born with an advantage. Hell, just by being born in the US a person is likely in the top 1% of wealth earners in the world…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:27 PM
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She’s just a hooker with unpredictable wages… that’s it. Anytime someone monetizes their attention that’s all they can say.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 02:22 PM
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Socially: men lying up are seen as more competent in banging women; women are seen as less of a slut for lying down Sexually: men with higher n counts get laid more despite women claiming they aren’t attracted to that; women get more relationship/commitment from men who don’t think they are a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 02:15 PM
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As a guy… it’s none of the BS “you missed your chance!” Shit women always spew. If she wants you to know she’s available, there’s no subtlety… you will feel her eyes on you constantly. If she wants to fuck you, you will know it. There is no “well I stared at him for 5 seconds and he didn’t notice, so I’m gonna die alone”… no fucking way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 06:06 PM
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Self reported statistics show that men and women cheat at the same rates. Statistics also show that male sexlessness is on the rise. Since men would benefit from lying up about how much sex they have, and women would benefit from lying down about how many partners they fuck… it’s easy to see that women have far more sexual partners and cheat far more often than men…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 06:02 PM
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Nobody is mad at women for their “nature”, they’re mad that society coddles them and tells them it’s not their fault they are single when they lack the introspection and empathy to form a mutual connection after years of coddling (and male thirst) artificially inflated their prospective relationship candidates. Basically, men are upset that women say “we have sex with who we want, men have sex with who they CAN” in a jabbing manner but forget that being in a soft harem doesn’t mean you can lock …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 11:44 AM
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If a rapper tells you to go out and be a gang banger and shoot everyone who disrespects you are you gonna do it while they collect a paycheck? Fuck no
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 11:36 AM
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Don’t care. I’ll never use it for anything more than casual sex when I’m horny and lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 07:10 PM
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Imagine if I told young gals that it’s always been them doing non important house shit and none of that will change cuz men don’t have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 09:19 PM
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Don’t have to wait. Women pursue who they want. I don’t worry about women who don’t match my effort it ain’t the 50’s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:43 AM
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Lol I love when a woman tells me what my job is. Can I now tell women what their job is? Women are not sexually aroused the same way, yes, but saying they shouldn’t approach because they aren’t actively sexually aroused is just BS
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 10:59 AM
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I mean I’m down
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 11:11 PM
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And you think that will change anything? Wealth distribution in the US is getting out of hand and the rich still aren’t paying taxes. Minimum wage hasn’t really changed in 10 years. Poor people can’t do shit otherwise rich law firms would crush other rich peeps and public defense attorneys wouldn’t exist
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 07:33 PM
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The fact that women stay single longer and male sexlessness is increasing proves branch swinging. Take ten each of male/female Give me any scenario that the men move into relationships quicker, and male vs female sexlessness stats will show you that women stay “single” but join a soft harem… can’t have “men moving on quicker” without “women banging dudes that don’t want to commit to them”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 07:30 PM
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That’s like telling poor people to stop letting the rich dodge taxes. I’ve said it many times and it remains true… for women to have better success in dating they just have to change their approach. For men to have better success, they have to change every other man’s dating approach
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 07:18 PM
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You definitely can get hypothermia from your AC lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 07:14 PM
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So what’s your advice to incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 05:37 PM
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The point was that rape is not on the same topic… like hypothermia isn’t normally mentioned when debating what to set your house to. You don’t always die from hypothermia either
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 05:36 PM
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Intels are acting like dickhead Chads to attempt to get a taste of the Chad life because continuing to be like they are put them in the predicament they are in
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 04:19 PM
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If you’re talking about comfortable temperature… you don’t say keeping your house above 75 is ludicrous because you can die from heat exhaustion… and you don’t say that the reason you have to keep it above 70 is because people can get hypothermia if the house temperature is too low
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 04:18 PM
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Her saying she has casual sex and has had a ONS… horses mouth if you will
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 04:16 PM
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Men are between a rock and a hard place. Women know the more custody they get directly translates into more money… so that’s an obvious misdirection of stats. Men know that they can’t support the kid with themselves AND work to provide when the kid isn’t with them. I’d like to see stats for married vs non married child support requests as well as the career earnings of women vs how much money they earn through child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 04:15 PM
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What is the best interests of incels? And why are you, a non incel, qualified to tell them that what their supporting is against their best interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 03:34 PM
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Thats my point. If you have casual sex, the excuse of not wanting to get impregnated by a stranger is moot
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 03:29 PM
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The definition of a straw man… I feel like we’ve been down this road before where the only retort is “but rape”… OP wasn’t saying that women feel disgust because they’ve been raped by an average dude… they feel disgust because he’s average, and they have a vagina so they deserve only the best…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 03:28 PM
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Both polarized sides of politics are dipshits if they think an R or a D next to someone’s name means they automatically have your best interest in mind. Either they lie to you to make you feel good while they are fucking you (D), or they tell you the truth while shifting the blame from themselves to the other party (R)… or vice versa they both suck
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 03:25 PM
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Agreed…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 03:23 PM
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Apologies… the average incomes are similar when hours worked are taken into account. So why are women the major recipients of child support/alimony?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 03:22 PM
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Yes, but there are two important things to consider… My assumption was based on the fact that the vast majority of women have casual sex… I’m arguing trend data for why “I don’t want to get impregnated by a stranger” doesn’t track as a valid excuse for disgust Self-reported casual sex is going to be WAY under reported… Women lie down, men lie up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 03:15 PM
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I’m not taking the blame for being upfront about my intentions and her making up a separate scenario in her mind without my knowledge. And I break up with anyone as soon as it becomes clear we aren’t on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 02:40 PM
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The 82% of women having had casual sex? That aligns with my argument, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 02:39 PM
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Dude your wife is toxic AF. Protect your assets and gtfo. Ask yourself this question: would you ever say such a thing to her? I would never say something so vile to someone I’m married to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 02:30 PM
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If by “remain single” you mean join one or more soft harems, sure. Single women have way more sex than single dudes on average. See “male sexlessness”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:45 PM
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Based on statistics… most casual sex is fine between women and above average looking dudes. Try to correlate it to intelligence, wit, humor… you can’t. Average Women fuck hot dudes more than they fuck average dudes. This is not news.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:44 PM
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The vast majority of women have had casual sex… so it applies to the vast majority of women. The vast majority of women have attempted to trade sex for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:42 PM
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But they dont in the vast majority of cases… despite the average woman out earning the average male.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:41 PM
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Again, stop bringing up rape when I never mentioned it… I haven’t raped anyone. I have been raped by a chick. I know a dude that pays child support to a chick that raped him… shits backwards and we’re not here to debate the morality of rape. Rape is bad. Check
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:40 PM
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You think incels are happy that attractive dudes basically have huge harems? That’s a new take I gotta admit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:39 PM
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Yes, bring rape into the equation when it was never mentioned. We’re talking about enthusiastic consent only
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:38 PM
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As the “attractive scumbag” I can guarantee that I specifically tell them my intentions going in and they always have a covert contract of commitment. Then I’m the douche for not professing my love.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:37 PM
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You said your disgust comes from not wanting to get pregnant by that dude… which makes no sense if you’re already having casual sex with dudes that don’t want to get you pregnant and/or would bail if you did I’m trying to get you to connect the dots as to why getting pregnant is the main concern if someone was already having sex with someone they don’t really know romantically
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 12:00 PM
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I mean, it’s my opinion but that wouldn’t be a ONS. Either way, I think the main point of my argument is that it doesn’t make sense to be worried about the implications of sex being pregnancy if you’re having casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 11:58 AM
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Dude who doesn’t want a relationship cuz he’s getting sex without it from you is more likely to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:19 PM
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ONS implies a rando imho… otherwise, you’re just casually banging a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:18 PM
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Cheaters are shit partners in most cases. Women do not cheat less than men. None of those stats take into account GFs/BFs… and when the man is cheated on, he cannot take half her shit as a consolation prize
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:15 PM
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So you have a higher chance of getting pregnant by a dude more likely to be repulsed by you unless he’s horny?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:14 PM
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No one cares that they’re more attracted to handsome men. It’s blaming ALL men for their lack of self control when it comes to men that are hot but shitty. This is like saying “if you were rich you’d avoid paying taxes too!” Possibly, but does that mean it’s right? And does that mean everyone should be ok with the rich not paying taxes?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:13 PM
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Exactly… I’ve rarely been asked to wear a condom. I’m usually the one more afraid of pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:11 PM
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That’s you. If you haven’t had casual sex and/or a ONS it’s not really trend data
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:10 PM
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Because we discuss dating trends here, and the vast majority of women have partaken in casual sex rather they were “future faked” into it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:09 PM
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No, it’s given attention for purposes of virtue signaling. Hence why there’s no “male nurse of the quarter” or “male fashion designer of the year”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:08 PM
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Anecdotal… men women choose for ONS are more attractive than those they choose for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:07 PM
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So women never have ONSs? They certainly don’t seem to scared about pregnancy. Does birth control not work? It’s weird that the same chicks that are scared shitless about pregnancy don’t seem to mind sleeping with dudes they rarely know them claiming to be “sex positive” or some other BS
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:13 PM
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No, the “marriage is for cucks” camp needs to fuck right off… but so do the FDS misandrists so ymmv. I’m just here to see what kind of idiots want a circle jerk and which people actually want to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:12 PM
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Women have higher levels of integrity?! Fucking lol… There’s so many studies that prove women don’t break up with men until they’ve already moved on. See branch swinging. You only cry foul and don’t play the victim when you’re caught in the act and the next dude pumps and dumps. Even then you claim it was LOVE or whatever that causes you to treat the loyal dude like shit…. Just wow
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:09 PM
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But if he’s hot? Goes right out the door huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:07 PM
2

Lol it doesn’t matter how hard women compete… there are tons more opening for them than there are for men. There’s a reason I’ve never heard someone say “male engineer of the quarter” or “male CEO of the year” Only bottom tier women can relate to the struggles of average dudes… and even they probably get more attention
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:03 PM
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Maybe… but only men are told to grow up and stop believing in a fantasy when they cry foul. Women are told that they aren’t at fault cuz their version of romance is perfect and could never be toxic… And still only one gender will have the majority of the other gender throwing themselves at you constantly to enable your shit behavior regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 04:48 PM
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It’s the classic gaslighting. We are men, so our struggles MUST revolve around sex. Since I have had dating issues, but don’t have an issue getting laid… I find it hilarious when women here say “with an attitude like that, you’ll never get laid!” Imagine if I said something similar to every chick that was having a hard time finding someone to settle down with. It would be WAY more valid, but I’d get crucified for saying, “yeah with THAT vetting tactic, you’ll never find a decent dude that wants …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 11:54 AM
2

I don’t know how common… but I’d say it’s not good or bad. It’s just the result of women’s attempt to trade sex for commitment. If you don’t have a covert contract, you usually aren’t used as a last resort bang
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 07:31 PM
1

It’s honestly just easier for us to orgasm. Some women I can make cum every time with relative ease. Some women I have to learn their body and listen to feedback. And I keep trying, but I think a lot of women place more emphasis on sex duration than actually orgasming if it’s tough for them to do so… that’s my experience, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 06:22 PM
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I do understand. I think that women should approach if they truly want equality. I’m more saying they have to initiate every time, or that they have to commit right away to anything… just show interest in who you’re interested in to gauge mutual interest. Dating would be smoother/better for women if women held themselves to the same energy standards as men and didn’t assume the worst without knowing someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 06:20 PM
1

I’m more referring to just regular porn. Not the obviously staged shit, the homemade stuff… I’ve only dated one chick that liked anal (I don’t)… but the vast majority of women like (and get off on) that power imbalance
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 05:19 PM
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Nah, they just need to watch what women do vs what they say. I’ve dated plenty of women who lied to themselves enough to actually believe that it was their husbands fault for her cheating on him with an abusive dude… he was too nice and blah blah blah… just watch what they do nothing else matters. If she likes you, she’ll break any rules to be with you cuz feels. If she doesn’t like you, she’ll make up any excuse to make you out to be the bad guy. Nobody likes to think of themselves as the villa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 05:17 PM
2

Or gave me theirs, yes. Or said day 1 that we should fool around sometime.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 12:34 PM
0

Solo female stuff is better for women? I mean, I don’t think most porn is real… but my personal experience has shown me that women LOVE pleasuring men that they are into… hell, I love pleasuring women I’m into. I don’t think sex is fun with one person doing all the work 100% of the time. Additionally, the most uncomfortable stuff I’ve been asked to do is at the request of my partner who wants to be degraded physically and verbally. That shit has turned on 100% of my sexual partners… literally 10…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:41 PM
0

False. Plenty of chicks approach, and I’d argue a woman approaching is better for the relationship… it’s definitely shown to be that way in MY relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:37 PM
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Attractive dudes don’t have to approach. Most guys know this. I don’t really mind approaching, but most of my good relationships have started with her being the initiator… so I go by what works.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:37 PM
2

I mean, women should care more about relationships than sex. I’m a dude, and I like relationships better than being single and dealing with the entitlement of chicks who no one wants to commit to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:26 PM
2

I mean some men prefer to approach… but yes I am retarded
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:25 PM
4

Exactly why I say “end male thirst”. It affects us all and women have a hand in it too
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 03:51 PM
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If she thinks it’s my job to carry the relationship and she just gets to ride along… She’s pricing herself out of the market. She’ll find some poor sap that thinks she’s deserving of being a taker, but it ain’t gonna be me. And yes, society does a shit job of calling out obvious misandry
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 03:28 PM
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Yes… women work on double standards and plausible deniability… but men don’t help by being thirsty AF and still thinking that it’s “their job as a man” to approach, initiate, etc. End male thirst, end WAW
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 03:02 PM
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Define universal. If you’re saying 100% of women like the top X% of men… then no. But if you’re implying that the top 10% of men aren’t so desired by women that women will put up with ANY of their shit just to be seen with them, that’s just untrue. Universal to me means that the top 5-10% of men have the option of the vast majority of women… Abe the curve drops steeply off once you get below 20%… which is evident to me by examining those dumb dating site studies as well as watching chicks practi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 02:59 PM
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Women do not have more diverse tastes in men. They have more diverse requirements. Those “requirements” are still only met by the top men. It’s like saying I have a more diverse pallet than someone because I require that my sushi is spicy, not fried, contains salmon, contains cream cheese, contains no eel, but contains eel sauce on top… but they have less diverse taste because they’ll take any sushi without eel in it…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 11:55 AM
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The bigger issue for me is the constant sport bitching about dudes who don’t pull their fair weight… while it’s been proven that women are just as likely to leave you for doing more housework. If you’re upset about where the bar is, don’t be the product… don’t make sex and relationships about doing housework, then only trade off doing those things with guys who give you the tingles. Consistency… if you want to see what isn’t consistent, go on FDS and see how many women who “get anxious over bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:24 PM
1

I wouldn’t say that that is the “average” woman though… although I agree that they are mainly to blame for throwing all the rules out the window for certain types of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:19 PM
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That would fall under not being clear headed around guys they wish to trade sex for a relationship with… and probably won’t change.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:18 PM
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All my chick friends throw away their lists for a guy that they like and add to the list for guys they don’t… it’s that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 06:52 PM
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Yeah, why do you think dating apps are crushing the average dudes chances? You can’t compete with every dude in your city. But she can fuck him at the drop of a hat. They’re not linking you with your soulmate. Their taking your money and using your time/body (if you’re a woman) and your time/effort (if you’re a man)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 06:50 PM
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I don’t know… I personally think it’s disingenuous to say “I can’t be nice to average guys because some of them will interpret it incorrectly”… my chick friends who are spoiled bitches to ugly dudes still have guys thirsting after them 24/7 as much as my chick friends who are nice to ugly/ average dudes. I can tell you which one I’m currently in a relationship with… it ain’t the entitled ones
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 05:56 PM
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The way I see it, men have a higher active sex drive. Women have a higher passive sex drive and are more clear headed around/during sex… And guys make sexual decisions on what gets them laid because otherwise they wouldn’t get laid… women don’t have that burden because the average chick can get laid by tons of dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 05:53 PM
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Nope. If I let myself go enough for whatever reason I’ll pay someone to pretend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 10:28 PM
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Nothing wrong with losing attraction. Shit, it’s natural, and means you don’t want to spend the rest of your life with them if you lose it all. The “why” and “what” she does about it is more important. Why is bad if it’s because he treats her too good, and “what” she does is bad if it’s toxic and manipulative. See male suicide rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 10:22 PM
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Not knowingly… the world is just vastly different and it’s up to you to spot what’s BS and what has held true through change
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 12:53 PM
1

Yes… that’s why I’m here. You need to see the other side to either reject their bloop BS or reject the outdated/wrong TRPer shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 12:52 PM
1

No, legalize prostitution. Women and men already monetize sex anyways… now you just aren’t required to film it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 12:51 PM
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Looks aren’t everything but casual sex with your looksmatch is impossible for most men… casual sex with someone below you? Somewhat attainable, but you’re also competing with guys above you. Basically, my take is that the “option” of casual sex is more important. Having had casual sex, I know it’s not my preferred method. Nothing revs my engine like a woman who really cares about revving my engine (a chick who is interested in more than just sex)… that being said, it’s dope to be able to fall ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 12:47 PM
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Not being nice gets you laid. Every chick here refutes this… but as a guy that is rarely “nice” to a chick I haven’t already vetted… it turns them off to be nice because that’s literally every thirsty dudes play. See #1 I mean TRP is literally the anti thesis of blue pill. And blue pill advice is literally the common go to advice for relationships. Using mainstream bloop advice, the US has gotten to a place where guys see marriage as the end of their sex life, and women see it as a reduction of …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 12:06 PM
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You’re right… edited
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 11:35 AM
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Edited, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 11:35 AM
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This. Me and my gf each make $100k and have masters degrees… we can’t afford to have kids and keep nearly the sake lifestyle we have now So guess who is having kids? Anyone from my high school who pissed away their college scholarship because they wanted to party like in the movies
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 07:52 PM
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No… but even if it was, is it also proof that the only reason you don’t get raped daily is because the men in the west are so awesome and moral? And that the women are just feeble little less than humans who can’t so much as lift a finger against the rape of fellow women because they’re scared they might upset the big strong man? No
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 07:47 PM
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Honestly… if you have to say it I don’t believe it… Nobody cares you have your own job tbh… some companies are hiring women to fill quotas. Nobody cares. Now are you a hard worker with a good social life who doesn’t sport bitch about douchebag exes? That’s a strong and independent woman imho
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 02:40 PM
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It’s up to Gen Z to decide if they want to vet early for marriage/kids or listen to the 30-something talk about how many guys she’s dated… hell I’m a guy and I want to have kids in my early 30’s but I’d rather do so sooner so that my (future) wife has the best chance of producing a healthy baby. There’s a fine line between “I’ve had my fun” and box wine with 30 cats screeching WAATGM
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 02:37 PM
1

I wish I could replace a fuck ton of chicks with my gf… she treats guys based on how they treat her… I think more chicks need to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 02:10 PM
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I guess I’m pathetic. I’ll go tell my girlfriend that she needs to head to your house immediately at 69 alpha fucks way. No, bro, as someone who has probably had more sex than you… pumping and dumping gets old quick unless you don’t have a shred of common sense. I’d rather be chillin with a 5/10 chick that thinks I’m the best thing since sliced bread than banging 7/10 chicks every night who bitch about everything under the sun cuz the rest of you idiots are so thirsty you say “no you’re right… y…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 01:47 PM
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If men were women and women were men then everything would be the same?? How the fuck is this post not downvoted and/or removed? But men don’t have the choice between hot or not for sex/relationships… women do. So, no… men have to be hot like 1/100 hot or be rich. Again, the top 5% (or less) of men are being whores in their 20’s and you don’t see them bitching about being used for sex, women not wanting to marry them etc etc… Yes, men are interested in dating/fucking upwards… but average women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 01:38 PM
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This. Forcing 12 year olds to marry you is beta AF
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 07:14 PM
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Yes. Just like men there are women with 0 introspection who will never see their own faults and blame men, the world, and everything else for their inability to adapt or be a better person (and attract better people)… It’s just like anything else in life… take it with a grain of salt unless you have additional information or overwhelming evidence. This is what separates us from animals. We have trials, juries, complex thought processes. We are not (in most cases) governed by mob rule. That’s why…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:00 PM
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My point is that testosterone levels decrease with decreased manual labor… not as a result of women wanting more feminine sexual partners
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 01:50 PM
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Women still prefer high T men… it’s just that modernization has greatly reduced the amount of time men spend doing manual labor. Does that mean that athletes and blue collar work doesn’t turn women on? No. But there’s a balance between comfort and genetics. Any guy who has gone to the gym every day for years can tell you that they have higher T during that time… it’s not really good or bad unless you allow the aggression to shift from being used to lift weights to being a walking fight instigato…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 03:50 PM
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I just say women are just as shit as men except society coddles them and enables them to be shitty due to male thirst… I don’t see how that’s the sane as saying “all men are shit”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 03:44 PM
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What separates red pill from everyone else is they explain that sexual chemistry is counter to what you would think. “Women just like bad boys” is broken down into “putting women on a pedestal makes their vagina dry up”… it’s ruthless advice meant to cater to results not “feelings”… is it 100% accurate? Fuck no… but WORLDs better than Bloop shit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 07:34 PM
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That’s about the level of advice I’d expect from someone with 0 introspection. Luckily, she’ll never be poor so she can say what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 07:32 PM
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I agree for long periods of time… I would never ask my parents dating advice because id be single lol… but I don’t necessarily think that means we shouldn’t take that into account (which I know you weren’t implying). Take what worked from the past that you like and reject the rest and replace it with what you know to be true based on experience (this is what I do with TRP since I’m not FULL redpilled). But I don’t think 5 years from now will be drastically different (although I think legalizing …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 11:44 AM
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Even contrasting ideals have some overlap lol. I think most PPD users agree on the preferred outcome… just not the obstacles and means to overcome them. By nature, the members of this sub are diametrically opposed… but, hey, better than an echo chamber circle jerk
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 11:40 AM
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Simultaneously? Good on you. And yea if you can successfully juggle that I’d say you’re higher functioning than me at least lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 11:35 AM
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Ironically, The double standard is how women function in relationships lol… I rarely see women taking the blame for being shitty partners and thinking the grass was greener when it wasn’t. THAT is the real victim complex. I agree, if you’re sitting there saying “all men are shit” you’re probably shit. It makes it even worse that women have a huge advantage in dating due to male thirst… like xxtentacion said (RIP): change hoes like clothes I can’t get attached cuz these hoes fire starters like li…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 11:34 AM
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Nah we just don’t want to have to be the one who gets blamed for the relationship falling apart simply because other thirsty dudes will bang you. Nah because women don’t actively pursue men who are romantic because they see those dudes as needy lol. Women want love to happen to them… they want the wedding not the marriage. See divorce rates and unhappy marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 10:36 PM
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I don’t know, lol… I’m a divorced dude just hoping to marry my current GF one day
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 09:34 PM
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I doubt it since people who aren’t happy dont tend to stay married forever…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 09:27 PM
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I agree… but since the over 30 crowd with masters degrees tend to have WAY lower divorce rates, my point stands. Yes, even some fish fly… but if I see an animal in the air I assume it’s a bird and I’ll be right 99% of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 09:12 PM
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If she finds you attractive but you spend every waking moment trying to please her and bend to her every whim (doormat), 99% of the time she will leave you or cheat on you. Being too nice is a mistake that can ruin ANY man
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 09:09 PM
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Maybe, but long term monogamy shows me who can function on a high level and who cant. The lack of successful LTRs shows me more about the percentage of high functioning adults… looking at you, poly folks
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 09:00 PM
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Maybe women don’t expect it but they want it… despite what they claim when they don’t get it. Nope, otherwise ignoring chicks wouldn’t work as well as it does on the vast majority. Most women attempt to since sex is the best most women can offer a romantic partner
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 08:57 PM
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Well, I don’t really know what’s “fine”… I just know women raise their standards for casual sex then get butthurt when the guy doesn’t commit. It’s hard for me to see most women that act like this as an adult. Shouldn’t your relationship vetting be more strict that casual vetting? I would think you’d women would want to spend more time with the guy that treats them like relationship material… but we wouldn’t even be talking about fuckboys if acting like a complete asshole to women didn’t work FA…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 01:24 PM
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Honestly, your prospects don’t change… but the average guy has to be comfortable with the fact that the chick he settles down with (more likely than not) has had more sex and more attempts to trade sex for a relationship. You basically have to wait longer for women to get tired of the same BS they were dealing with from other dudes 10-20 years ago. Whether or not she wants you because of her ticking clock or simply because she knows you won’t treat her poorly is irrelevant. You need to decide if…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 12:41 PM
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People tend to over analyze dating based on the traumas they’ve experienced… and a lot of people make the mistake of making their personal traumas the next person’s problems instead of working out how to avoid manipulative shitbags…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 01:38 AM
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You must be joking. Guys are ridiculed for being too skinny, too fat, too unattractive, not making enough, not being woke enough, not being funny enough… this is obvious shit because of all the mile long lists of requirements women have for men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 01:35 AM
1

Lol you think that doesn’t happen to unattractive dudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 10:16 PM
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Yes they do. Guy “sluts” existence alone proves this. Any guy who has ever gotten laid knows that it’s easy when women think there’s competition… chicks aren’t out there trying to snatch up single dudes lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 06:35 PM
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I’ve been with chicks that never wanted me to see their phone, and chicks who asked me to use their phone to look stuff up all the time… I’ll let you guess which one(s) cheated on their BFs/hubbies with me (and possibly cheated on me) Edit to add: not giving a shit about your phone is the best way to go from FWB to GF in my book
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 05:58 PM
1

I don’t think logical responses can often have an emotional element to them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 01:33 AM
2

What part do you disagree with and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 01:33 AM
1

So you fake care about emotions? What happens if you are unable to fake a genuine emotion… like being sad about the loss of her loved one?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 08:47 PM
1

We can afford it… that’s not what we want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:55 PM
3

Unattractive women are also unaware of how unattractive they are. The only catch 22 is that they are coddled and told they are beautiful, and sport fucked by attractive horny dudes… If anything, it’s women who are painfully unaware of their actual prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:53 PM
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I’m considered above average according to the attractiveness levels of my casual flings and my career(s), but even I don’t think OLD is a place to find a good partner. My “average” bros still do it because dating for a dude is all about casting a fucking wide net, but I prefer quality over quantity and OLD does not offer the former imho.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:48 PM
2

Dating must be easy, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:44 PM
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You might have anti-social personality disorder. Many men/women I know like playing games with peoples emotions… and it doesn’t mean they are part of any pill, it just means they lack empathy and don’t feel emotions like the average joe /Jane … I would feel super guilty for cheating on someone who cared about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 12:03 PM
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You gave an outlier to defend your stance (<18 year olds are tried as adults). I gave a counter example of an outlier (mentally impaired over 18 are not tried as adults). It’s a debate sub, I’m going to debate…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 11:59 AM
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Nope, I know tons of dudes who haven’t had many struggles with women (including myself) that would never take advice from women on how to attract women. In fact, the majority of guys who do this are having trouble attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 11:56 AM
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The point remains, I would have had WAY less dating success if I listened to women about how to attract women. They’ve never had to do it… they don’t know what they like… it’s common knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 08:43 PM
1

“Too hard to fix” pun intended??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 08:41 PM
2

Male thirst exists and this is proof
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 08:00 PM
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I’ve banged tons of chicks and “don’t listen to women” just seems like “watch what she does”… if she’s saying she wants a nice guy who is into the painting or puzzles like she is blah blah blah, but seems to date fuckboys who are into partying and guitars or whatever… it’s obvious she’s got 0 introspection. This really isn’t a TRP thing… this is dating past middle school 101. Every dude who’s ever dated knows that most of the chicks who bitch about not being able to find a “good guy” (WAATGM) ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 07:55 PM
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100% if she’s into the same stuff as me They know I’ll make the right call on when to bring her and we met through mutual friends. No, as long as it doesn’t detract from hanging out. The new love PDA is something people are weird about. Nobody needs to see you kissing every 5 seconds… fucking be normal. Trying to hard just comes off as insecure to me. I have more fun with my gf there… if I had a FWB I would have more fun without her there It won’t last if she doesn’t include me. I’m not here for…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 05:39 PM
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I think Rebekah is a narcissist who married an enabler…. And I am truly happy because that means FDS psychos have one more “success story” that keeps them exhibiting the toxic traits that any sane man or “HVM” will run away from.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 02:56 PM
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For me, it’s not a worse quality thing… it’s a more women have approached me as I’ve aged… some of them are the same quality, a lot of them are former pump and dumpees that chases bad boys and now want someone to tell them it’s not their fault they dated garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 02:46 PM
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Jesus Christ look at all the checklist of requirements you people have. Be decent looking, be a decent person… match my energy with respect to the relationship and life. That’s not a tall order/unrealistic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 02:44 PM
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I agree to an extent, but I am also a guy who is dating someone he was strictly platonic with first. I never attempted to “court” her because we were friends and that would be weird. You don’t have to “date” to get to know someone… there was no money exchanged for her time/effort as that almost always sets up a strange power dynamic from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 02:40 PM
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Yes and mentally impaired are not tried the same for crimes even if over the age of 18
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 12:00 PM
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Oh I thought you were making a case for it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 11:59 AM
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Correct, there’s no crime for “grooming” someone to have sex with you if she is over 18… which is separate from coerced sex but even that is kind of no man’s land legally unless violence, a power dynamic (boss withholding something), etc is at play
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 03:55 PM
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Are you claiming “jailbait” is the “young but still older than 18” defense?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 03:32 AM
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And for being white and male, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 03:29 AM
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“Young but still older than 18” has never been used as a criminal defense to my knowledge… and i actually have not heard of that, no… I’ll have to Google it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 03:26 AM
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So… anyone in their 20’s who murders someone should go to Juvenile jail?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:50 PM
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Well shit man speak up sooner. If they were getting it from you, why did I have to do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:49 PM
2

I’d agree with that. Don’t try to make non-exploitation into exploitation
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:47 PM
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I think it’s super creepy to be able to use the term “groomed” for a woman that was in her 20’s when the alleged “grooming” took place… but I also like older chicks so… my opinion no matter
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 01:46 PM
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“I’ll be honest, a lot of you guys are a lost cause”. Starting a thread with a personal attack against men, very nice, very toxic, very “letting your feelings cloud objectivity” (very feminine) But aside from that weird (non-necessary) start, your post was actually good. Men know you don’t lust after us (usually) based on looks alone. But the “we compare you to the rest of the world” is a bit misleading. Women compare men to what they perceive as acceptable in the rest of the world, with no calc…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 12:38 PM
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Sex. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 12:29 PM
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takes notes “Do NOT define the relationship”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 12:28 PM
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Ewww, I hope no guy says he wants her for a “particular job”…. That’s fucking weird. Everyone is attracted to personality… but I just want a mutually beneficial relationship… like most guys. Right now I have that, and my life (and as far as I know, hers) is much better for it. That’s hard to find for the vast majority of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 12:27 PM
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I don’t think TRPers care about boyfriend material since they don’t want to marry. But lying about commitment is a tried and proven way to get sex quicker. Doesn’t matter who “admits” what. TRPers just know that if she takes too long to sleep with you it’s probably never gonna happen and it’s more beneficial to them to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 07:50 PM
2

She ordered the fuckboy package and was upset it wasn’t the boyfriend package… that’s it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 06:50 PM
2

For men… yes. Often for women (and yes I know they’re all going to disagree), it seems that I’ve never met a woman that just wanted to fuck a dude with 0 possibility of commitment stated outright
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 11:49 AM
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I don’t really know the science behind it, but 100% of my girlfriends, wives, and hookups have wanted to be choked/degraded in some way (most often called my dirty slut or something like that). Not joking/exaggerating… 100% of them. Choking was the #1 request even when just making out. Edit to add: I don’t even like choking unless it is for the purpose of turning them on
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 11:47 AM
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We live in a gyno-centric society I guess. First woman to do X masculine thing? Amazing! Overcoming obstacles! A hero! First man to do Y feminine thing? What an insert slur here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:52 AM
8

Yep, she’s a victim. Nothing she could’ve done could have prevented her hookup from acting like a hookup and not a boyfriend. /sarc
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:48 AM
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That’s the risk you take when you hook up with a dude you don’t know. But she knew that or she wouldn’t have hooked up with him (if the story is even real) Seems like rage bait/ e-whoring to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 06:01 PM
2

I’m young but I like older chicks so I’m really fucking with the formula
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:56 PM
1

If that were the case male and female sexlessness would be equivalent
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:32 PM
3

History repeats itself too…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 02:39 PM
1

OLD is for hooking up with shallow/lazy chicks… are all women who use it shallow/lazy? No… just the vast majority… which is 15% or something crazy. Don’t compete for these chicks lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 02:11 PM
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It doesn’t matter what older women are saying to younger women lol… young women don’t want to be an old spinster and therefore won’t give a fuck. Hilariously enough, this applies to older women who are and are not giving good advice
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 02:10 PM
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Not religious but damn the Bible be hittin the hard truths
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 02:01 PM
2

Soft harem is not the same as “open relationship” Soft harem implies one person has an open relationship while the other is expected to be exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 01:34 PM
1

Men don’t “settle” for low N, we are happy with low N. We aren’t repulsed by low N women. Conversely, Low N men repulse women or they wouldn’t be low N lol…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 01:33 PM
1

Nah I said the women feel like they’re dating him. In his mind, he’s “playing the field”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 01:30 PM
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I don’t know it still doesn’t pass the BS test… if high N men were having trouble finding an LTR they wouldn’t be high N men. Any dude I know who can find a STR can more easily find more LTRs… which is opposite of women. Sex is easy to find, commitment is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 01:29 PM
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Did it delineate between STR and LTR for women? Or did it lump them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 02:24 PM
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Lol at everyone saying the wall doesn’t exist for women at a younger age. Women have a “harder time” with respect to “their” 20’s… so it kind of evens the playing field because no hot 20 yr old is lusting after older women (I mean, I was but… mommy issues?) Either way, most people are attracted to someone their age… women can just no longer attract young, hot dudes at a certain age (maybe 30… who TF knows)… so, although they may not “admit” a difference, men find it WAY easier to date as they ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 02:11 PM
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Pfffff inb4 “a nice guy that doesn’t treat me bad”. “Definitely not a redpilled guy!”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 01:56 PM
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I did read it. It says that men were more willing than women to bang for STR, not that women were more willing to bang dudes with low N than high N for STR. Also, it says that they expresses equal “reluctance”… so if he lies about N he’s solid right? That study is so flawed. Also, did it ever give numbers and percentages besides just “not a large difference” as stated in the abstract?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 01:53 PM
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So when women are looking to fuck, you’re not repulsed by high N. But when women are looking to settle… high N is a no go. Guess the “pregnancy” precautions only apply to guys that women settle for…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 12:22 PM
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Soft harems… Women do not have a hard time finding someone who wants to fuck them. Women have a hard time finding commitment from someone they like. Men have a hard time finding both. Top dudes are fucking multiple women who feel like the guy who won’t introduce her to his friends is dating her… that guy tells his bros he’s banging multiple chicks and isn’t in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 12:21 PM
2

Yes he does, hence the “pump and dump”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:00 AM
1

Well just cuz it doesn’t happen to you doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:58 AM
1

It’s sad that the type of relationship where obvious detractors from continued success (lack of sex, reliance on alcohol) is a huge minority in today’s relationships… I’d say based on the quality of the relationship alone your parents are “high value”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 09:06 AM
2

You never fucked a chick that simultaneously had dudes in waiting to take her on extravagant dates? Meanwhile all you had to do was say “hey you free tonight?” And she’d cancel her plans with any other dude and come over?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 09:02 AM
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Nobody claims that women string guys they like along… people claim women have backup plans and multiple “situationships” out of boredom and TRP is one of many available tools to use that basically says “if she wanted to be fucking you, she would”. Most of society says women need to “feel comfortable” and men need to continue working on her blah blah blah… but it’s basically just the same garbage to keep plan B on the hook.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 08:59 AM
1

It’s a debate sub homie not a circle jerk
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 08:52 AM
2

Maybe in Saudi Arabia. In America, thinking average women don’t have it easier than average men is ignoring reality. Just look at what average women bitch about vs what average men bitch about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 08:51 AM
1

“Chad” for average chicks is below Chad for above average chicks. The common denominator is that you still answer that “U Up?” text from your Chad, and dudes in your looks-match aren’t getting laid nearly as much of at all
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 08:09 AM
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Literally had a chick throw a temper tantrum when I told her I didn’t want to fuck her anymore because she was fucking another dude. She said “you never said we were exclusive”… I was like “you’re right, but it’s obvious we have different views regarding how relationships start”… fucking blows my mind lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 08:05 AM
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Men aren’t known for branch swinging… so that take on the joke wouldn’t work…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 08:03 AM
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Nah, I’ve met my fair share of women I thought should be “attainable” and their never ending list of growing standards never made me think “I’m gonna sexually harass this bitch to bring her down a peg”… I just think “wow I’m glad I avoided her, she needs a therapist not a relationship” This reads more like the female revenge porn than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 07:58 AM
1

Single moms are praised daily for existing. My dad was a much better single dad than 99% of the single moms out there based on how I ended up. So I’d say that’s more than the “bear minimum” The “bear minimum” to me would be living on food stamps and expecting the public school system to raise your kid for you… something single moms do and get praised for
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 07:50 AM
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Men have a harder time fulfilling the female imperative than women do fulfilling the male imperative… and men have an immensely harder time fulfilling the male imperative than women do the female imperative. Again, for men to have an easier time fulfilling the male imperative, EVERY dude has to be less thirsty… for women to have an easier time they just have to stop fucking dudes that don’t care about them… something they alone can do
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 07:47 AM
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I agree with the “OLD sucks” take. But the fact is that women have dudes way out of their league trying to fuck them 24/7. The only issues women have in dating is when they are unable to leverage that into a relationship… or, more accurately, unable to tell which men will stick around after the romp and which won’t… something that pretty much everyone else has figured out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 07:44 AM
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Yeah it’s not about monetizing sex in the least… that’s just the easiest way to show the HUGE discrepancy in the dating scene. Oh noooooo, women have too many options to choose from and some of them are ugly and balding! Oh that’s terrible! Shit, my average bros get like 1 date every 6 months that isn’t a complete piece of shit for a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 08:42 PM
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Yeah guys just take away the opposite sex’s basic human desire to procreate out of the equation and women are like totally just as mistreated as men. /sarc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 08:40 PM
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If I expected every chick to sexually satisfy me without telling them a word about what I like I’d never cum… It’s more about being adults and communicating your wants/desires since some chicks like different stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:32 PM
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Depends on the chick and how much she likes you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:31 PM
2

I mean I agree with the “fuck online dating” take… but, no… I’d say it’s easy to get into a “situation ship” where neither one of you want to show their cards. Relationships have come easy to me personally… but the average dudes I know struggle much more than the average chicks at even finding someone who returns texts 50% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:36 AM
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Nobody thinks women are attracted to a juiced up Chad… they’re just attracted to guys that literally don’t give 2 shits about them because they mistake that for not being thirsty… Step 1: fuck guy who doesn’t care about you Step 2: continue to fuck guy because feels Step 3: “why I no orgasm??” Step 4: fuck guy who does care about you Step 5: don’t feel satisfied in bed, but that’s his problem for not being a mind reader Step 6: no sex because sex no fun Step 7: why I no orgasm?!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 09:38 PM
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Haha true true… but worth it imho
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 07:29 PM
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Or if you’re not attractive enough… negging, which is toxic now
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 07:27 PM
2

You’ll never know a truly redpilled dude. That’s part of TRP. He’s gonna act all liberal-minded and woke, and just not let chicks use him as a doormat. That’s true TRP and it’s not toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:15 PM
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There are a metric shit ton of “princes” out there. Maybe if women put more effort into seeking them out instead of waiting for love to just waltz in their life like they’re the main character of their own boring ass show… we’d see a difference… I know tons of good dudes that would never treat a woman with disrespect even in a playful way… the issue is that women don’t care if the “asshole” vibes are playful or genuine assholery… both those dudes are getting laid before Prince Charming 100%. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:13 PM
6

Volcel cuz no man that meets your standards wants to be with you sounds like incel with extra steps to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:10 PM
1

I have read those. In that instance, I kinda don’t see how they get into that scenario… if sex drops off considerably and there isn’t a good reason besides “I never liked sex” and/or “I don’t think sex is as important”… I’d be out of the relationship SO fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:06 PM
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The vast majority of single women have dated “assholes” in their own words and vilify all men for it. The vast majority of single men have never even thought about raping a woman. Make that about the millionth time where I make a point on PPD and it’s rebutted with “yeah but men rape/murder”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:04 PM
2

I’ve said this in response to AWALT before, but AWALT to me is AWALT until you prove otherwise. But how long she lets her feels cloud her perception is different for all chicks. I truly believe that all women start out craving the masculine to a T bad boy/fuckboy type… then, it bites them in the ass and they say “hey maybe I don’t want to stay with a guy that’s abusive/manipulating/controlling/etc. just because I “like” him and he’s not “boring”… so they start to hone in on guys who aren’t “bori…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:19 PM
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Nah if my bros see me making shit up they’ll call me out for being an emotionally driven idiot. Chicks seem to reinforce their gal friends perception even if it’s not based in reality AT ALL
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:12 PM
1

Dead bedroom is due to loss of sexual attraction lol… duty sex comes from boredom more than “I don’t like sex”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:09 PM
2

Yeah they’re just making shit up now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:08 PM
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In my experience, the high N chicks are good for star fishing and not much else. The chicks who view sex as an amazing relationship perk spend the most dime trying to do what you like. Also, I haven’t known a relationship to exist without sex. That’s just friends with extra creepy flirting/manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:18 AM
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Lol, they lie because facing the fact that their stimulus ass decision burned them makes feels bad /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:12 AM
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Trust me that whatever a woman perceives to be reality… is reality to her. I’ve known tons of chicks that have done similar things and are like “well if I didn’t he could’ve raped me”. Those chicks just make assumptions in their head and run with it. Move along… that’s not the type of chick you want to invest in, trust me. Basic human decency is below these chicks and their toxic shit seeps into their professional life until they alienate any non-toxic people and just self-fulfill all the demons…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:10 AM
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I mean FDS… fuck no. But if a chick is “feminist” in the sense that I’m a “feminist” where I believe chicks should have the same rights AND responsibilities (like paying for dates, putting forth effort in the dating world) as men… that’s my shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:03 AM
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Look at all the chicks trying to spin words like you said she should just in bed with every dude right away… lol I only agree under the premise that neither one of you makes the other jump through hoops. People think they’re something special that needs to be shown unlimited energy by the opposite sex. How about we just mutually agree to be together? Fuck courting. Fuck male thirst.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 12:56 AM
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Of all the things I’d see claimed on PPD… this is not one of em. No, sluts are not fun because you’re just going to be 51/X… you think she got a high N by giving a fuck what type of dude she’s banging or how much he enjoys it? No
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 12:54 AM
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I mean yeah… but also if chicks were upfront about only wanting you for the attention to add to her collection you’d bounce too. The only difference is the amount of attention she can get from dudes she doesn’t care to fuck is unlimited. Men don’t have unlimited options of chicks to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:28 PM
1

Loneliness is loneliness lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:50 PM
0

I think it’s because blue collar workers are more likely to put off masculine vibes and not really give a fuck if they lose an average woman. Mr investment banker or engineer doesn’t really use his hands for much, he doesn’t take tons of risks, he’s around rich softies all day. The construction worker/welder is a brawny guy with calluses, likes to work out during his free time, and probably has a lot more times during his free time where he’s in contact with middle class workers (who are more mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:49 PM
2

Yep… pretty much how guys feel when “courting” honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:42 PM
1

Either one is fine tbh… I mean I’m a dude and thought hooking up with whoever, whenever would be dope… but it’s not
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:41 PM
1

I think it’s a losing battle to want your SO to just “assume” this cost…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:39 PM
1

If you truly feel that way, then just bail after the honeymoon period… I just use short term flings in between LTRs because LTRs are harder to come by… but, again, it only takes one
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:53 PM
0

So either she stays with you and she fucks other dudes… or she leaves and fucks other dudes. She’s not relationship material she’s a potential fuck buddy…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:26 PM
1

I’m not a chick so I don’t have a mile long checklist. Be decent/look decent, and care about your health and money like I do. I never ask a woman for something I myself can’t provide to her. It’s a relationship not a bargain
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:25 PM
1

The cost is nothing compared to the resultant halo effect. If I wanted to pay a chick to look good with me I’d hire an escort. Do yourself a favor and implement diet and exercise instead of wasting money on cosmetics. Makeup won’t stop your heart from giving out at age 50
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:23 PM
2

I mean I’d just prefer you work on your appearance by eating right and exercising… that’s what I do. But it also doesn’t bother me if you are doing that and still wear makeup when we go out. But I can tell you very little men are LTR’d with chicks that they don’t find attractive without makeup so you’re only playing yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:52 PM
1

No, we’re just getting less diverse. We’re heading towards a “you’re either rich or your poor”… which can only lead to “you’re only swimming in pussy/men or you’re not”. More men are sexless and more women are unmarried. Women claim they’re loving being single so we shall see. The top men will never want for sex and the top women will never want for attention/commitment. I guess we’ll see if the average chicks would rather be in steady relationships or soft harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:50 PM
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Everyone wants to feel needed/wanted. And I’d prefer to split bills if she’s able. No sane dude I know what’s to counteract the sexual imbalance with his own monetary one. Just get a trophy wife who bangs the pool boy on the side (or a hooker)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:46 PM
1

The problem is we all know it’s tougher to fuck a chick without committing. This, it doesn’t ring true when she says “yeah I duck him but he’s not relationship material”… yeah fucking right. As if I’ve ever scored with a chick and she’s been like “thanks for the sex, I called you a cab.” I don’t care what chicks say, I’ve always gotten better treatment as a sneaky link than her boyfriend has gotten for “commitment”. And I think that speaks volumes. The trick is to find a chick that tried FWB/ONS…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:43 PM
1

Bush did 9/11… birds aren’t real. Also, I own a dog… just like Hitler. Coincidence?! I think NOT!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:36 PM
1

Eh or just don’t care who their mom is banging cuz they got their own (perceived) issues
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:35 PM
6

Lol ask your butler he might
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:34 PM
1

Again, I’d stay away from trying to put every point of tension in the “shit test” category. The first scenario… I’d say your friend is a douche… but that’s just me. Second scenario, I think the chick is probably gonna find sneakier ways to snap other dudes pics of herself… but yeah, for me that’s just weird and I wouldn’t be OK with it unless they were friends and/or I knew the dude and could make an assessment… A LOT of times you can tell how sketchy a chick is just by how many friends of hers …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:31 PM
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No, but TRP’s assertion (which I agree with) is that women are now born with an unfair advantage over men. Companies have that token woman they need to hire, there’s always a “first woman to do X” news story…. Plus all the dudes that look as good as you and better have been trying to fuck your potential LTRs for as long as they’ve been in the game… TRP sidebar tells you how to best maximize your position as a man given the info of the female head start / waiting at the finish line
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:08 PM
1

They’ll move out of Mississippi
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:05 PM
1

Texting is fine, but if you have to choose between texting too little or texting too much. I’d text a chick too little and a guy too much. Trust me when I say nobody is texting her more than dudes who will never bang her. But that’s just BS science and you gotta tailor that based on who you’re trying to attract at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:04 PM
2

I think normal dudes are so pussy whipped that they let chicks get away with tons of shit. You want that kind of example?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:18 AM
2

Percentage wise or # wise?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:14 AM
6

Nah men should just normalize women putting equal effort into the “getting to know each other” stage. This courting BS is kinda weird and sets up a power dynamic before the relationship even starts
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 08:13 PM
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Yeah, fuck dating apps. The chicks who ghosted were unattractive psychos. The attractive ones were borderline massively entitled shit heads or little to no personality. I’d rather bang 40 yr old single moms that can carry a convo… but that’s just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:59 PM
3

Yeah man good luck we all been there! It only takes one good one!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:57 PM
0

No true Scotsman fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:56 PM
2

I mean you don’t have to be 100% RP to be a redpiller. The sub Reddit seems like mostly LARPing baffoons to me but I still believe the sidebar more than the bloop shit advice elsewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:40 PM
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I mean… some chicks are toxic AF and honestly if I’m single… I’m probably giving that toxic shit right back at em. We can both wear sheep’s clothing I’m just gonna be a bigger wolf underneath Plus it’s good practice so you know a good chick when she comes along
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:37 PM
1

No sex: you gotta be pretty ugly NGL… even then… horniness is a bitch Only sex: pretty much any decently attractive chick that has a shit personality Commit: decent to above decent looks with a good personality. Marry: same as the above but you’ll sign a prenup. I mean I’ve had sex with some really good looking chicks, and some chicks that were so “borderline ugly AF” I wouldn’t admit it to my bros EVER…. It honestly depends on how horny you are and what your current options are. But the main re…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:32 PM
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Dude every relationship I’ve been in there has been a “testing” phase where they try to pull some BS without even realizing it. If you tell them to fuck off when they cross the line, you’ll be fine. Don’t treat everything like a shit test, but if you see your boundaries being pushed/crossed, why the fuck would you want to stay with that chick? Some chicks literally shit test themselves out of EVERY possible good relationship then bitch when the guys they go after don’t give two shits about them.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:26 PM
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Alienate more people from society, get more extremists fighting back… maybe we should look for actual solutions instead of pretending there isn’t a problem with toxic relationships and the declining middle class / two parent households
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:23 PM
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This. I’m from a worse neighborhood than any of you and the murderers/rapists/thugs/bad boys left behind a trail of single mothers and generations reliant on food stamps… the bros that studied hard were considered weak and low value until they worked their way to the upper middle class where tons of money and being intelligent was more of a positive… now if they could just kick the WAW overtly nice routine that results from not getting laid in high school/college.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:20 PM
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Yeah, as a naturally RP guy who doesn’t care to spin plates and wants to get married… this place is the best space for us. Also reminds me of the psycho shit women will say/do to blame all their problems on dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:16 PM
1

Again, they’re still young so we’ll see
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:14 PM
2

Nobody wants forced arranged marriage. Nor will it happen in the west
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:55 PM
14

Just buy a prostitute. Better product for cheaper
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:53 PM
7

Are men taken for granted? Yes Are women so afraid of rejection that they use plausible deniability to flirt? Also yes That’s it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:52 PM
2

I mean they are young still
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 03:17 PM
4

Same. Am not thirsty, but tons of my bros are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 03:15 PM
2

I don’t respect women just for being women… that’s fucking stupid. I treat them with common decency, but respect is earned by not being a complete dipshit… otherwise you’re just another passing face. Am I gonna be a dick to you? No. But I’m not gonna ask your opinion on things because I trust mine way more than yours. That’s the difference for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:20 PM
10

Hopefully Gen Z will be the psycho “we don’t give a shit” generation that won’t thirst over chicks like us millennials did. And hopefully the Gen Z chicks will avoid fuckboys like the millennial chicks say they want to, but don’t actually do. We shall see lol but I’m excited for the “no holds barred” if Gen Z takes it there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:17 PM
1

You will definitely shit can a bunch of women if you take away their manipulation route… but I think it definitely makes the secure chicks more interested and “clears the path” of the useless garbage so you can see the smaller, better path. If it were easy, everyone would be happily married. Rise above the thirst lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:13 PM
3

I’ve been viewed like a rockstar, but everything is sugar coated when people don’t know what it’s like to be you. Fucking 99% of the chicks you’re attracted to is not better than fucking 1 chick who would do anything to keep you around and who’s company you actually enjoy literally all the time. I know it’s sappy, but it actually is rare cuz a lot of the super attractive women just have shit personalities (or no personality) from being coddled 24/7 365 But maybe that’s just me. It got old quick …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 03:33 AM
6

You can repeat some colloquial phrase. Last time it was “straw manning”… this time it’s “moving the goal posts” you have yet to provide a scope of our discussion that is the proverbial “goal post”. You just keep avoiding the question by making claims with 0 evidence to back them up. Tell me what the goal posts are and why my question was outside of them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:47 PM
2

Fuck no… ask women what they want then try to be that for them. Let me know how long you remain single
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:45 PM
2

Women love guys who make excuses to not have sex with them… just ask the guys who have had sex with them! /sarc
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:43 PM
3

So you’re missing out on casual sex? That’s it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:01 PM
16

People who don’t have to drive to pursue quality are often satisfied with quantity. It’s like asking why people like having tons of flaky friends vs a few good ones that’ll do anything for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:25 PM
7

Yes, guys will always lie for pussy. I can’t stop all guys from lying to get pussy. Women can stop having sex with guys that tell you they are in love but don’t act like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:19 PM
1

Again, no kids here so I’m not the best to ask… but I definitely wouldn’t get married after dating for a few months. And your situation seems like he was just a poor father once stress triggered his fight or flight (he flew)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:18 PM
1

Shitty exaggeration in most cases. I’d you’re being truly mistreated by a person you’re fucking… stop fucking them. We’re adults but I guess we don’t want the responsibility portion
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:05 PM
24

Take a look at your average poly couple and tell me if you would ever want to see them naked. It’s a no from me dawg
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:04 PM
1

Yeah, I don’t expect her extra time and she doesn’t expect mine… but that doesn’t mean I treat her like shit if we happen to cross paths outside of the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:56 PM
1

There’s no perfect solution, but proper vetting (or any vetting) would solve 99% of women’s problems with respect to shit father figures. If men knew they couldn’t get away with ditching a family… they wouldn’t do it. If women knew they wouldn’t get shit in a divorce where they cheated (except for a bill for emotional distress caused) they wouldn’t do it. Control what you can control.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:55 PM
21

I have plenty of unreasonable shit to spew just give it time lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:45 PM
4

I contend that statistics alone show that most women are still hooking up with dudes outside their league to attempt to buy a relationship with their vagina… see male Vs female sexlessness
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:44 PM
1

Don’t have kids with a dude you haven’t been dating/married to for a couple years? Seems pretty easy to me. I’m the “sex obsessed” gender who doesn’t have to carry a kid or birth one… I’ve had no problems not impregnating chicks…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:40 PM
7

10 guys and 10 chicks. The 2 best looking guys are having sex with the best looking 6 chicks. #3 and #4 guys are having sex with the 7th and 8th best looking chicks. Bottom 6 guys aren’t getting laid. Bottom 2 chicks aren’t getting laid…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:37 PM
1

Did I say that? No. I just said I don’t care to hang out unless we’re having sex. Just like I don’t hang out with some of my coworkers outside of work. It’s mutually beneficial and I am mot treating her as less than human… we’re just not friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:34 PM
16

No… it’s just women lie about what an “attractive personality” means… it means “I’m attracted to him and his personality doesn’t turn me off” Women’s libido is not lower, it’s just not always active like men’s. Orgasm gap is due to you banging dudes that don’t care if you get off, OR expecting men to know what YOU like personally by reading your mind. If guys didn’t tell you what they liked, you wouldn’t instinctually know. Communicate. If you rate your hookups lower, stop hooking up. Nah, can’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:20 PM
86

I don’t use alpha/beta. I use “putting up with her toxic BS” and “not putting up with her toxic BS” Both genders need to stop the covert contracts and walk away if you’re not being treated as an equal
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:33 PM
9

So the average male has an equally easy time getting laid as the average woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:31 PM
1

What does “step back” mean? And recognize that I don’t have kids so I’m probably not the best person to debate with on this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:29 PM
7

EXACTLY. Fuck, I was asked “how did you get HER” and I was like “I think it’s just genetics to be honest”, but better looking “meek” dudes had worse looking chicks on their arm… so I was like “wait, why do I have this hot psycho who keeps coming back to me?!” Turns out, women are attracted to some poor traits in dudes… I was consistently told by women I started fucking that they “like dudes that don’t like them back”… I thought that this was just self deprecating humor… but the vast majority of …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:27 PM
48

Honestly it just confirmed my suspicions regarding how women’s issues are mainly the result of their poor vetting tactics. I angrily (and possibly drunkenly) googled “why do my exes STILL want to have sex with me despite being in a healthy relationship with dudes that are better for them” after I noticed a trend with the women in my (sexual) life. TRP wasn’t the top result but the “truths” of the sidebar (not the mainly LARPing Reddit group) described EVERY encounter I have had with women person…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:56 PM
1

Since most women view sex as something they “let” men have with them or that they “make him wait” for… they don’t put in a ton of effort to make it enjoyable. Women out here starfishing like it’s their job and wonder why no one comes back for seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:35 PM
1

Good looking dudes will still bust a nut in fat chicks cuz it’s easy… nothing major will happen
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:32 PM
1

Or, you know, stop having children with these dudes. Problem solved
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:30 PM
1

Just ask yourself if Reddit posts are being deleted for shaming men’s height…. If people are being cancelled for being sexist when talking about make height… then I dare you to laugh about a female coworkers weight in front of your supervisor.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:28 PM
2

I mean I can still see you as a human that I only want to have sex with and don’t want anything to do with other than that… doesn’t mean I think of you as sub human. Whatever you call yourself based on that info is up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:00 PM
2

This type of “friendship” is more of a “feeling out” period and not true friendship. But most “friends with benefits” don’t work out for the exact same reason. You aren’t “friends”, you’re fuck buddies. If you were friends, you wouldn’t be fucking, and if you were in a relationship you wouldn’t only see each other during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:57 PM
2

So not 50% then… that’s a massive difference. 80/20 strikes again!!! (Jkjk)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 03:28 PM
1

As someone who has been married and has slept with chicks that were married (but not to me)… the show is hilariously unrealistic. Most chicks just treat their husbands like absolute garbage when they are cheating on them… but I guess this is rage bait to the max lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 11:52 AM
3

I don’t think him saying it makes it sting any less when it happens. Why not just ask if he’s fucking other chicks? Women really are OK with being in a soft harem as long as he says he’s not monogamous?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 08:29 PM
1

‘‘Twas a meme… but my point was that the two are very analogous
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:29 PM
1

If you want to see the “fragile egos” that feminists claim men have… just watch a woman get turned down for a date… Hell, telling women I have a gf is enough to send them into fucking crazy town on a rocket
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:27 PM
2

Yo what? I was just trying to make this point to you about watching a guys actions over his words but you said that him saying he wanted to be monogamous was your best bet? Am I getting trolled RN?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:25 PM
1

Blue pill is what sounds good. Red pill is what actually works. The trick is to make people believe you’re doing blue pill shit while you’re actually doing red pill stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:19 PM
2

No. It’s also illegal and stupid so… yeah that sums it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:17 PM
12

Treat men based on how they treat you…. Not how much you like them. Stay fit. The first one seems to throw the VAST majority of women for a loop, but you can’t fuck a guy into liking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:08 PM
5

Treat the guy you like well? Or treat the guy(s) you like that also treat you well… well
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:06 PM
0

FOMO = thirst. Oneitis = sunk cost fallacy. Prove me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:59 PM
3

I’ve never been bullied in school. But if I saw a kid getting bullied I’d step in. Empathy doesn’t come from experience in all cases… imagine if we didn’t speak up every time we thought someone was being treated unfairly. Imagine if we just let bygones be bygones. And for now the 4th time, this isn’t about me. Not everything I disagree with has to make me “bitter.” I disagree with rape but I’m not bitter about rape. I disagree with putting bananas on ice cream but I’m not bitter about bananas be…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:57 PM
2

No, but I have empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 03:24 PM
3

Mostly just belittling, cheating, manipulating, lying… you know, innocent chick stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 03:22 PM
4

For the second time, it’s not about me. If you see someone wrong someone else… it’s normal to be happy when they get wronged due to their own poor behavior. Imagine a world where people don’t have to face consequences for their actions… to you, it might seem like paradise. To me, I see bad people exploiting it and that seems like hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 03:17 PM
14

The average dude is indeed struggling… sexually and in the dating marketplace. This is compounded by the fact that many of them are turning to OLD as the biggest source of their prospects… which only compounds their struggles. I don’t know why these anecdotal threads keep popping up, but are you saying that all of your buddies consistently have women interested in dating them? Always texting them? They’re always having to turn down women who started off as friends but now want more? Just listen …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 03:06 PM
2

That’s a pretty good take…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 01:50 PM
3

Yes, for a dude that she wants to fuck… her standards are low. For a dude she doesn’t know if she wants to fuck, or doesn’t want to fuck… the standards are impossible to meet. Is that information freely available to him? Hell no, she’ll keep putting up obstacles and he’ll keep exceeding them… maybe even getting some prize vagina if the manipulation is beneficial to her… Standards aren’t “standards” if they aren’t consistent lol. They’re made up and the points don’t matter… comedic really
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 01:21 PM
5

Fantasy would mean it doesn’t often happen. And I didn’t really take dating that seriously in high school/ college. But like I said, seeing my bros get revenge was pretty dope. I love Karma even if it isn’t instant… as do most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 01:16 PM
1

So you only date dudes you already know well?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 01:14 PM
9

I mean just treating guys how they treat you would be awesome. No one wants you to pity fuck anyone… but literally every dude here has seen the vast majority of chicks who have ghosted them, led them on, etc. sport bitching on social media about how they’re lonely and theres not good guys left. There’s a lyric in a song that says something to the effect of “if you been treating her like a princess and she still on Twitter looking for attention, just know your attention is worth less than the lac…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 12:26 PM
1

A great example of pre-emptive gas lighting thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 12:23 PM
1

My own mom is far more entitled and unaware than most chicks in the dating game. But I still love her like my mother. Next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 12:22 PM
0

I mean I agree but the bros do the same… we just call it “thirst” and “oneitis”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 12:19 PM
6

Yes. I see it in the same light as women who complain about being sport fucked by attractive dudes. Why would you fuck a guy that wasn’t attracted to anything but your vagina?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 12:18 PM
7

I mean you can only warn countries about the stupidity of not incentivizing the nuclear family in exchange for cheap labor from single parent households before another super power realizes our lack of viable offspring… and puts the old boot to the face. As an American, I think we’re truly lucky Russia and China haven’t already been like “yo, they can’t even get along with each other and they are the most spoiled pieces of shit in the world, let’s fuck them up and give them something to actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 12:11 PM
5

I mean I have a negative view of how the vast majority of women conduct themselves in dating. That being said, the chicks that stay positive and are ok with saying “fuck off” to a dude that is hot but treats them like shit are well worth sifting through the rest of the sea of entitled victim complexes. That’s why, if I’m treated like shit by a woman, I literally laugh it off (sometimes in her face) and just go about my business without her around. I know everyone here says the wall is “a revenge…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 12:06 PM
1

Oh I definitely agree to “cut the fat” but that doesn’t mean give up on dating completely lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:59 AM
2

A. Match each other’s energy. A lot of people treat others based on how they feel or what the other person says, and not how that person treats them. B. Good chat/ mutual attraction. Bad date? Bringing up past relationships way too much… Being rude (this includes to waiters/waitresses. C. Had tons of good dates. Worst date was a chick who was dating someone else and her bf started catching on so mid date she nuked it by acting like a complete bitch out of left field. I laughed about it on zoom a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:58 AM
2

TIL I’m an idiot… nope, never mind I knew that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:52 AM
1

I don’t really deal with the alpha/beta stuff too much… but I think he just loves your sister. My experience with single moms has been… less than appealing. So I don’t date them. They’re mostly entitled and shitty people/parents, but that doesn’t mean they all are. I don’t have kids and don’t want them right now so it’s kind of unfair to them anyways. Regardless, I think it’s natural to assume a dude who takes care of someone else’s kid is enabling poor behavior in some cases. Is he a good dude …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 02:34 AM
1

I mean your boundaries are your boundaries. I don’t do sexual things with a chick who is doing sexual things with other dudes. But if she’s kissing other dudes and/ or going on dates a few times a week… I probably am dating multiple chicks. If that’s not cool with you then be straight up and say “are you dating other dudes/chicks? It’s fine if you are I just don’t want to be a part of that cuz that’s not how I view relationships.”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 11:25 PM
2

I think having ANY kids to save a broken marriage is about the dumbest shit ever. Show me one example where it worked and I’ll find thousands where it fucked over everyone involved (including the poor kids)… Fix your shit and don’t make it an infants responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 11:22 PM
2

That’s not confirmation bias. Confirmation bias would be me only dating chicks that fucked me on the first date. I fucked all of them, but the ones who tried to withhold vagina for reasons turned out to be shitty LTRs… go figure, they’re still sport bitching on social media about how fuckboys play them. I think the word you’re looking for is anecdotal… not confirmation bias
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 11:20 PM
1

So he is free to say “we’re monogamous” but fuck other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:04 PM
1

So what conclusion are you drawing based on those numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 05:58 PM
1

Well shit it must be false then if you said it… /sarc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 05:55 PM
1

I think they do it for a myriad of reasons… that happens to be one of them based on what people have told me in confidence… I don’t really ghost so that’s the best I got.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 05:43 PM
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I mean it doesn’t matter how successful you are if you let people you say you “don’t respect” get to you. I laugh it off because it was hilarious when someone would go on a date with me and act like an ass. If you’re truly more intelligent/better than these “bimbos” you would take a second and think “I don’t really care to sacrifice my happiness to give a fuck about someone else’s poor attitude” and you’d move on. Also, you’re 25… who cares about what some chick could or couldn’t do to you in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 05:38 PM
0

Are you talking about me? Or the people who ghost?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 05:32 PM
0

Yes. I am not part of a hive mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 05:10 PM
-1

Ok those numbers are all over the place… and can’t be taken at face value because it’s a “this subset says” survey… it’s like the single moms I’ve banged who said they “weren’t looking for a serious relationship” until I was fine with not being serious… then it flip flops. I’m sure it’s the same with guys saying “I want more than just sex”… then after sex what happens? Either way, not wanting a relationship does not mean those men/ women aren’t still having sex. So kinda irrelevant to OP
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 05:09 PM
9

And chicks EVERYWHERE say a “nice guy” but sport bitch about how fuckboys do em dirty. If you’re looking for the hypocrisy monopoly it’s gonna point at the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 05:00 PM
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Haha it was merely a jab at OLD… but yeah the rest of my post remains… you go to the gym often… I don’t think anyone faults you for vetting for guys that look fit. The short thing is kinda… not really my place to discuss. But just because you don’t want to date him doesn’t mean you have to not be decent… if he reacts negatively, that’s on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:56 PM
1

Kinda my point… so why trust his words over his actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:53 PM
2

You know that saying “you’re paid as much as they think you’re worth”? Well women are dated as much as men think they’re worth. If good men want to date you, you’re probably worth a good man. If they don’t want to do anything but fuck you… congrats… you have a vagina. If you want better, be better and vet for better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:52 PM
-2

Where are these numbers coming from? “Not looking to date” means still fucking dudes that don’t want to date her while bitching about the lack of good men. Sounds like the dream to me. 30-40 women are easy picking. Any dude who’s had sex knows this lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:49 PM
0

They want to be miserable… that’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:43 PM
13

Seeing as all my LTRs have been the result of quick sex and all the terrible relationships have been “make him wait” chicks, I’m gonna go ahead and say “no”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:42 PM
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I mean, without knowing your weight, I don’t know if you’re actually “curvy” or (like most OLD chicks) just plain fat. Regardless, I think if you’re in the gym 5X a week you should definitely vet for a gym-goer. As a gym rat who (according to myself only) is on the skinnier side… I LOVE going to the gym with my SO… and I think it’s extremely important to stay in shape for a healthy LTR As for the height thing… being born short in America is a HUGE disadvantage… I can’t imagine how those dudes fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:39 PM
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I don’t like low N women cuz I’m not a low N man. I also don’t “slut shame” cuz I don’t date women who I can only assume are sluts based on their actions. As for “why”… personal preference? Guys don’t like sluts cuz sex is less special with sluts. Guy like low N cuz most guys are. I don’t think those are such “revealing” facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:15 PM
3

I’ve said it in another post: we’re all adults who are literally unable to act the way they taught us to in pre-school with respect to basic human decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:13 PM
1

While I agree, I am mainly attracted to chicks who aren’t always feminine… and I’m masculine AF (at least in my own mind). We both cook, clean, pay for dinner, work for a living, exercise… it’s just like having a best friend you also love to have sex with and cuddle with while watching TV
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:11 PM
1

I don’t know… I think it’s weak to: Give up on relationships because of how “hard” you perceive them to be. Delude yourself into thinking that you’re happier alone than you would be with a good partner… or more importantly, delude yourself into thinking that you’re so awesome and everyone else falls short of what it would take to provide basic human nurturing. Be totally incapable of seeing your own faults with respect to who you let in your life, or totally incapable of seeing how you’re litera…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:09 PM
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Being so horny that the lack of sexual drive makes you repulsed by how low you were willing to dip to get off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:01 PM
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I don’t really ghost… I think it’s super feminine to be scared of some made up repercussions of stating your desire to not continue seeing someone (especially after sex). Also immature. Grown ups use words; kids use the silent treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:56 PM
1

The blue pill only exists because of the red pill. The red pill only exists because the mainstream advice (blue pill) doesn’t work for a size-able portion of the populace. Whether or not you think that’s the majority is mostly opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:51 PM
1

Sexbots won’t do shit. Legalizing prostitution will. Want to know how I know? No chicks are going to argue against legalizing sex bots. Women will argue to their grave that prostitution being legalized in some European countries hasn’t done anything for male sexlessness…. That’s because those countries don’t have the same dating issues we have…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:47 PM
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Nah, men aren’t women. We don’t lose respect for chicks when they treat us well. If we don’t respect you after sex, we never respected you we were just horny. How women continually don’t recognize this is baffling to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:43 PM
17

Every time I see a post like this it screams 2 things to me: Women still have 0 idea how difficult it is to even get a date with a woman who doesn’t cancel the night of for some BS like “I gotta go walk my goldfish” I think we’re being invaded by fucking boomers who just want to repeat “just pull yourselves up by your bootstraps!” when talking about ANY life problem like some mentally handicapped idiots
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:34 PM
1

Women will screech about the bar being low with mad dudes in their inbox… guys will screech about the bar being too high with 0 chicks in their inbox. You tell me which one is hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:29 PM
2

I give the same advice to chicks that I give to my bros. You are both adults… if someone can’t bring equal energy do you really want to carry the relationship on your back for the rest of the relationship (if you do this it will end badly). Lack of energy matching means lack of desire. Trust me you don’t want to begin/continue a relationship under these terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:16 PM
0

Yeah… I can’t put any weight on this study because no one will openly admit “I like to see other people beg and plead for my attention when I know I don’t want them and they can’t do anything to make me contact them again”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:06 PM
23

Because both of us want to change the game when it comes to relationship vs casual hookups… and men are willing to sacrifice a lot on looks for a casual fling. While women want to bang hot dudes, then cry later about how her prospects are diminishing in relation to her looks. Step back and ask the average dude what he wants in a woman, then ask the average woman. THEN you’ll see who has a high bar and who doesn’t. There’s a treason people think women make love into a damn checklist. Stereotypes …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:03 PM
1

Well if he tells you he’s not cheating when you get worried do all your intuitions get thrown in the garbage?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:59 PM
1

Doesn’t take that long lol. If he treats you like a priority, it might take a couple weeks. If you’re vetting for an LTR that’s nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:57 AM
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People lie tho. Just see how he consistently treats you…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:11 PM
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I think mainly just the lack of introspection… and how they assume most guys are falling for the lies. I’ll give some examples: No, we don’t think EVERY ex you had was the problem. There’s a good chance that if you say every dude you dated was manipulative/controlling/whatever, you’re coping. No, we don’t believe that you “wait” for anything due to fear of rape/pregnancy/etc. with guys you’re actually attracted to. We know most modern women are getting laid if they’re single (or sometimes not) a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:43 PM
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I personally have no problem with it. But it’s not sustainable long-term and it can hurt other career opportunities. If it works out for someone that’s awesome! But it does not work out for the vast majority of women… that’s just the honest truth
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:09 PM
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Why even have the talk? I can tell which chicks are interested in monogamy with me by how they act. You can tell me you love me, want to marry me, etc… but the fact of the matter is that a really great deal of marriages don’t work out anyway, so why would I care if she “promises” I’m the only one? For a guy, you either watch her actions and judge accordingly… or you chase a bunch of chicks around you’ll never sleep with. Fuck the “talk”… people lie. This is dating 101 for any dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:55 PM
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That’s kind of the point of the post though. Minimizing someone’s issues doesn’t make it any better than those guys complaining about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:53 PM
2

I don’t think you should speak for all men though…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:52 PM
4

Oh I think redpill is against monetizing e-whoring… that’s the basic gist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:48 PM
18

So… is this Q4RP then? I don’t care who does OF… I just think it’s a stupid career choice. I also think it breeds shallowness and wouldn’t date a chick that did it simply because I don’t want to. I think it’s weird to make money off of what I can only assume are mentally handicapped and sexually repressed individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 07:37 PM
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Not sure I follow?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 06:09 PM
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My job(s) tend to scare off the wine crowd within minutes lol… so they’re already filtered out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 02:32 PM
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I mean I’ve never stayed with any chick who didn’t have both… BUT I’d rather have option 2. Sex is an important part of my relationships, and if all the kinky/fun/exciting stuff is mutually beneficial with mutual energy invested, I can look past the lack of energy/money towards dates (or at least I’d like to think I could)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:59 PM
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1) No. It’s not to be taken too seriously, but young love is an invaluable part of growing up imho… I think the lack of experiencing young love and heartbreak makes men into huge simps/ “nice guys”TM and women into insufferable branch swinging pickmeishas… 2) Absolutely lol! It turned out OK, even though we’re no longer together. She was kinda toxic, but so was I… I think we learned invaluable dating lessons from each other. It also allowed me to take dating less seriously when all my effort was…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:55 PM
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I mean I prefer older chicks because they aren’t so fucking immature and crazy (and that means more to me than being hot for 5 years)… BUT I think the hesitancy comes from the fact that most dudes who prefer “barely 18” chicks are often child predators…. Not saying that’s you, but I would be IDing chicks left and right (not joking). Anyhow, fuck em… they don’t have your best dating interests in mind, you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:44 PM
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It’s mainly the collective perception of any man and women (who call them fuck boys/ boy toys) who has been in the sexual marketplace. Many Women will try to make it sound more innocent like “I was seeing this guy casually for awhile but realized he didn’t treat me well and wasn’t BF material.” OR “I wanted to fuck him, so there was no penalization for being a dickhead.” Guys will say “chicks can fuck whoever they want whenever they want if they look decent.” And chicks will say “yeah that’s con…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:40 PM
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Dude that’s so true I forgot all about the “oh we’re basically divorced” (he has no idea), the catfish extremes, the “oh yeah I got some terrible fucking kids”, the “oh I’m not a psychopath… JK it’s been a week I’ll fucking kill myself if you don’t stick around”, and finally the oscillating extreme horniness preceded by extreme flakiness from the attention whores
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:47 AM
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Nah… I get these comments a lot. I was saying being attractive is awesome, but using it for OLD is a HUGE waste of your halo effect
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:34 AM
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Thinks that good-looking dudes fucking her is an excuse to act like a toddler if she doesn’t get her way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:33 AM
2

I agree, my point was mainly to get off OLD lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:32 AM
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No don’t get me wrong being attractive if a fucking life hack on steroids… but using that attractiveness on OLD is a HUGE waste.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:32 AM
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Cuz that got old after college… I like having someone around who can hold a convo, who I’m attracted to, and can match my effort
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:17 AM
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Almost model looking white guy here… not as good as it sounds… those chicks are either cute and dull as a rock, or entitled to the point where you don’t even wanna smash out of desperation… haven’t been on OLD for more than 2 weeks and I’m much happier for it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 10:14 PM
2

Man this calculator is so cringe lol… and I AGREE that women’s standards are all over the damn place
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 10:13 PM
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Woooo top .10%… suck it bro…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 10:11 PM
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Dude the amount of “doesn’t count” sex women lie to themselves about is ridiculous. Can’t date adults if you can’t adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 07:52 PM
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Yes… but we can approximate misreports based on gender…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 07:40 PM
2

Getting a ticket is not getting arrested. Having sex but not orgasming is still having sex. Your analogy only works if the cop is asking if you have broken the law before and you say “no” because you didn’t think the speeding was breaking the law (but it is)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 07:39 PM
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No. What is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 07:37 PM
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Doesn’t matter if the chick does not report/agree with the reports definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:57 PM
1

That’s my point my dude…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:56 PM
3

I’m not a bitter woman. I don’t make anyone wait as a vetting technique. I wait until I’m personally ready to have sex, because I don’t want the government deciding that the chick who lied about being on birth control gets to raise a kid I don’t get to see while taking a cut of my pay check. Also, it takes average to below average intelligence to spot a slut… this can’t be a huge problem for my fellow bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:54 AM
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As a guy who has lots of money and sex (currently) who spends his time with dudes that have lots of money with no sex… I can tell you that I’d rather be broke and getting laid. Money can be earned through hard work… the odds for consistent sex can be increased relative to your genetic makeup… Thank you mom and dad… you weren’t perfect, but you were pretty and that’s good enough in America
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:49 AM
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As long as these late 20’s early 30’s chicks are still saying stupid shit like “I like bad boys” or “I need a REAL man that can put me in my place”, game isn’t going anywhere. You say you want us to listen and understand women. Now that we do it’s not fair, or misogynistic, or desperate, or immature. Whatever… it works and since women are the “vetting” sex, y’all cannot skip the blame on this one. I literally found TRP because I googled why my ex GFs would be so viscerally attracted to me despit…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:43 AM
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Oof they do not like the even playing field do they? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:35 AM
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Big doubt from me. Both genders lie about it. There’s literally no way to “prove” otherwise… although the “lie detector” survey seemed to be what matches my personal experience. Add that to the fact that I’ve personally heard women say they’re virgins cuz they only do anal, they didn’t fuck a certain guy cuz they only “swallowed his cum”, it wasn’t a serious relationship and/or she didn’t fuck him because he only came and she didn’t (some FDS chicks really believe this stuff). It’s hard to prove…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:32 AM
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To me it read like she had everything she needed, but that a man should provide more for her… that’s why I was confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:36 PM
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If all your needs are taken care of, why would you expect more from a guy? If life’s a competition Jeff Bezos is kicking your ass and you and your $425k condo in the PNW (which I can only assume means you have a sweet 1000 sq feet to yourself) is nothing that anyone cares about besides you. None of that money means shit if you lay down in bed at night and think “fuck, I was happier when I was eating ramen noodles every night as a broke ass college student” (been there). I’d much rather have a de…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 09:24 PM
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Well shit I hope y’all find each other lol. I keep telling them to get off OLD cuz that’s mainly where they find these chicks, but they don’t want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:09 PM
1

SO much cooler. Just ask my mom, she lives in the master bedroom cuz she owns the place
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:07 PM
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I would objectively say they are AS exciting or more exciting than myself… who has no problem attracting women (but I’m also in a relationship so ironically that helps)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 04:50 PM
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Not that they can’t “initially” attract them, just that’s it’s the baggage and toxic personalities based on what I can only assume is the chicks’ perception that she’s doing these short guys a favor by even entertaining the idea of hanging out with them. Bear in mind that these are extremely personable dudes with multiple varied athletic hobbies and a large, well established friend group
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 04:49 PM
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They are average… so 5’9” to 5’10”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:58 PM
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Not even close in my experience… the most centric members of my friend group are incel dudes simply because they’re short. I gotta watch my awesome bros come back from dates absolutely disheartened because the psychos they are matching with equate being short to being unworthy of any sort of common decency…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:46 PM
2

Untrue since HVM > HVF
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 02:45 PM
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Nope you missed the point entirely. Average dudes are not out here attempting to sport fuck super models to get a relationship… they’re trying to get a relationship with chicks that are their approximate looks match. But those chicks are trying to trade sex for a relationship with super model tier dudes. When that doesn’t work, it’s the guys in her league that she uses to get that sweet sweet attention that helps her feel better before trying again.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 02:44 PM
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I doubt it. I think they’d be happy with getting a little effort from the ladies that want relationships so bad they’re offering sex as a trade off
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 02:41 PM
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Men fantasize about unrealistic standards for women? Says who? You? There was a NSFW ask Reddit post about the most NSFW thing people did cuz they were horny. A lot of dudes mentioned that they jerked it to their elderly neighbor because she happened to be standing outside within view. Men can’t be “only interested in sex” and simultaneously also “fantasizing about unrealistic standards” The only difference I see is that the average women can literally starfish for a dude that she fantasizes abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:37 PM
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His point is that women don’t have to do any of that shit to be treated with basic human decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:32 PM
2

They know… they just don’t want to be bombarded with the fact that you want to fuck her… unless she wants to use that to manipulate you. Basically, if she’s hardcore flirting back with no ACTUAL physical contact for long periods of time… she probably would much rather get it from somewhere else… you just happen to be easy attention
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:22 PM
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It boils down to one things. Me and my other bros would definitely still bang a fat chick in a sneaky link scenario… little to no good-looking chick is going to bang a fat dude just because she’s horny… due to the VAST amount of options she already has. Inherently, a fat chick has WAY more SEXUAL value than a fat dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:19 PM
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Yes, their anger is misdirected. But they shouldn’t be mad at themselves… that doesn’t do shit… They should determine whether it was their own shit vetting techniques (after quickly analyzing the type of guys they open up to), then decide whether they want to be bitter at the world, or work harder to keep that part of the world out of their lives… it’s the same as the TRP anger phase when they realize chicks can be pieces of shit and still have mad dudes hitting them up trying to date them. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:08 PM
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The last sentence is something my bros could take a lesson on… not gonna lie it took me a couple years to master too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:02 PM
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Yes. Plain and simple. The average man’s looks match woman has WAY more sexual options that she can attempt to parlay into a relationship. On the contrary, her average looks match man has FAR less relationship options AND sexual options. This data is backup up by male sexlessness percentages increasing at a higher rate rate than female sexlessness, EVEN THOUGH it has already been proven (with peer reviewed studies AND anecdotally for most people) that men lie UP and women lie DOWN when surveyed …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:00 PM
1

So those prostitutes are just going broke then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:19 PM
1

That’s one way of looking at it. I choose to just play fair only for those who are playing fair… tends to work out
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:18 PM
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Zero. Legalize prostitution. Also, I don’t care about anyone’s “but it doesn’t work in X country” crap. Edited so as to not look like I’m pre-arguing against OP
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 10:46 PM
1

Men are not perfectly behaved and women still look pretty bad by comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 10:45 PM
1

Yeah that is 0% logical lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:28 PM
0

Not usually with as many dudes no… that wasn’t my point though… But thanks for proving my point with a whataboutism
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:07 PM
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Lying about an STD is still rape I believe… or at least some form of sexual assault… so yeah not talking about that. But to put it in perspective… any guy who complains because the chick who kissed him/fucked him last night doesn’t want a relationship even though she said she did would be immediately ridiculed for being immature… for some reason, even though it happens to women more… they still complain about this “future faking” like only men are responsible for how the relationship does or doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:50 PM
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Self improvement is always good but that’s regardless of relationship status.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:39 PM
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Ethics are literally just the group think lol. Some People would say future faking is unethical, and I don’t do it, but it works for a reason… and isn’t rape by definition (despite what some women here claim)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:36 PM
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Just flakiness, rude behavior for no reason, late arrivals to dates… being led on for months to hear “I’m just not ready to date seriously”… the list honestly goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:34 PM
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Nope. Average to slightly above average dudes. Chicks just have tons of options (for sex) so they don’t really care about being decent sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:25 PM
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I’ve had sex with more women that most women… By the same token I’ve had sex with more women than the vast majority of men. I’ve been in more/better relationships than the vast majority of men/women as well… That being said, I do what works to get laid by someone I don’t want a relationship with and I do what it takes to get a relationship with chicks I do… the methods I employ aren’t always something that pleases others to hear… but it works. Maybe if something works and it doesn’t make you fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 05:19 PM
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Honestly, if my average bro dudes were treated half as well as they treat the chicks they take on dates… I’d be much happier I’m not talking sex, I’m not talking opening doors… I’m talking basic human decency
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 05:12 PM
1

People with masters also tend to have more stable relationships… but that’s not surprising
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 05:10 PM
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I wouldn’t say a majority of average women do the approaching when it comes to average men… that’s not my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:51 PM
1

That’s a really great perspective to consider. I’d personally love to be treated like a woman lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:34 AM
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Those men are obviously misogynists… I don’t know how anyone can say otherwise. “That’s not how it’s always been done” will always be a losing argument when the dating/marriage game is as fucked as it currently is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:32 AM
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No… I believe women are less interested in fucking men than men are interested in fucking women. But every positive relationship I’ve had has been because the woman showed her continued interest and matched my enthusiasm/energy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:31 AM
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Then yes, you’re not a hypocrite. I wasn’t asserting AWALT… just that the vast (loud) majority of women are giving off the energy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:29 AM
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You’re right. Match energy only works to an extent if women apply it as well… It’s just my best attempt at a catch all answer for dudes/chicks
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:46 PM
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Hellz yeah. Definitely agree with the happy medium between tradcon BS and feminazi. You summed it up well!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:44 PM
6

I match energy and that seems to weed out the “say you want something” vs the “do what it takes to get something” chicks
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:25 PM
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I personally think we’re at a crossroads now. Women want all the perceived perks of being a man, but don’t want ANY of the downsides… I mean, I get it, because me too… but some of it doesn’t make sense at all. For example, women constantly sport bitch about how men are always asking them out at the wrong place/time, but when you ask them if they’ve tried initiating a genuine show of interest it’s always “oh no that’s the man’s job”… Lol you literally can’t get a better example of hypocrisy if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:00 PM
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I mean if they want hubby energy, wife energy should be better than fuck buddy energy… but it rarely is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:13 PM
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I’m not saying the story isn’t real, just that I have to read it now lol I truly believe it’s OLD. You can’t get someone’s personality over an app… which, for me, is extremely important
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:40 PM
2

We don’t have wings but my happy little ass hops in an airplane all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:16 PM
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Wasn’t really directed at YOU… more the ominous YOUs… I’m not really religious but I know the Bible pretty well and never heard of it… lol so I’ll probably look that up now haha thanks. And I totally agree on the OLD front… I can’t stand OLD and truly believe it’s made dating worse
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:15 PM
1

Again, if you’re a chick I’ve fucked more chicks than you. Never have I ever been like “I don’t think I’m getting enough sex”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:09 PM
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Better sex quicker… but more importantly, the vast array of things you’re willing to bitch about when you’re upset or go into crazy mode… very few women don’t go into crazy mode randomly. Leagues exist, if you don’t wish to believe what the vast majority of people believe based on experience and observing the world around you… that’s up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:33 PM
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I don’t think mismatches libidos is the core issue of duty sex though… especially not in this case
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:30 PM
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I’ll disagree. While it IS kinda shady from the guys perspective, I think a lot of men mis-state what they find so shady about it… As a FWB of chicks who were simultaneously vetting for BFs, and a “BF candidate” of a chick who had a FWB there are distinct “fuckery” aspects to it… The FWB is ALWAYS treated way better than the BF candidates. It’s noticeably better OVERALL treatment AND he’s sharing the most physically intimate aspect of a relationship with her already. It’s like if you’re a new hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:08 PM
1

Yeah possibly… not until it bites them in the ass
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 11:56 AM
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The pump in dump is the “fault” (or more accurately, the result) of both the shit vetting of the woman and the utility mindset of the man. So although women and men get played/burned whatever there are two very important things to consider: The guy(s) who played you was likely your top choice among men that likely would’ve been good LTR material, you just didn’t spent the proper time/energy vetting them The guys playing average women are the same top % of men. The chicks playing men are the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 11:56 AM
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Yes! Most chicks read this and assume I’m talking about sex. NO, they have no idea how well they treat a FWB compared to a bf once that initial excitement wears off. A FWB is valued so much higher based on their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 11:47 AM
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I actually don’t, but that’s only because I’ve had my fill of quick and easy sex. If I’m having quick and easy sex with one chick, I’m probably able to have enough women have quick and easy sex with me. It’s not reliability as much as it is an actual connection that would be lacking. Quick and easy sex would be valued over no sex/ duty sex in this instance… and yes I’ll take that hands down a million times over.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 11:45 AM
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You said it yourself… we’re brainwashed from a young age… that’s why it’s called TRP I mean 90% if the chicks here are like “yeah looks matter but I’m just gonna have sex with that guy not marry him. Personality is way more important to me.”… which is basically like a guy saying “yeah I’m gonna buy expensive gifts for my only fans chick, but my girlfriend gets to have relationship sex with me.” Chicks are painfully unaware of how backward they have it… No matter what they say, FWBs are treated m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:25 AM
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Imagine having tons of options and still getting pumped and dumped tho. Average dudes don’t have options… average chicks do and they still fuck it up most of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:42 AM
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Who are all the chicks crying about? It’s not the dude they fucked over with a fuckboy who played her… it’s the fuckboy who played her… Known that since 17 yrs old
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:36 AM
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