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| 20 | Are there any communities for "ethical incels"I definitely wouldn't want you to try and label yourself as an "ethical incel" - the label itself has been adopted by a very hateful ideology. Perhaps it would help to identify what the cause of your social awkwardness and struggle with dating comes from? For example, there's the Autism subreddit. There's also subreddits like "Lonely" which asks to stray away from redpill/incel type stuff... But incel is a pretty hardcore label now, I'd definitely recommend straying away from it. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/07/26 07:06 AM |
| 8 | Just discovered my BF of a year is red pill and can’t reconcile between his problematic views and how well he actually treats me… how bad are these views?Which, to be blunt, is also not true. The first issue is hunter/gatherer societies were far more complicated than just "men hunted and women gathered and stayed home with children"; many tribes and civilizations had females in those hunter and warrior roles as well as being in positions of power, so confidently saying "women will fight over the best hunter" is just on it's face a strange statement. Cause what happens if said Hunter is actually a woman? What if a tribe hardly has no hunters at al… | /r/ExRedPill | 22/05/26 02:19 PM |
| 37 | Just discovered my BF of a year is red pill and can’t reconcile between his problematic views and how well he actually treats me… how bad are these views?I feel like it's important to actually address these statements instead of sharing them and us just 'pointing and laughing' at them, because any redpillers on the fence may see these arguments and be convinced by them. I'll address them in order of what you've sent. This just objectively makes no sense. Do women get addicted to their vibrators? What about when someone that wasn't their first sexual partner makes them orgasm? There's also no evidence at all that suggests there's any biological di… | /r/ExRedPill | 20/05/26 06:16 PM |
| 4 | When does red pill become toxic?It's important to understand how the Redpill Pipeline works. You attributing basic self help advice to Redpill Ideology is simply inaccurate; it's, again, simply basic self help advice that literally anyone can give you. At that point it's not actually Redpill Ideology, it's simply basic advice that they hand out to try and lure you in. Good advice can come from anywhere, but just because you received good advice, doesn't mean you need to subscribe blindly to an ideology. That's grooming, not se… | /r/ExRedPill | 20/05/26 07:32 AM |
| 1 | Guys do you think red pill will decline in the coming years?To be fair, I never said it went extinct, just that it's on the downswing. Plus, one guy having a following of 555k isn't exactly indicative of a strong widespread movement. | /r/ExRedPill | 13/05/26 08:54 AM |
| 4 | Trying to Unlearn a Damaging Belief About DatingSo, I'm noticing something immediate. You don't actually base this truth off of any actual tangible reality, but instead, you openly admit it's pretty much entirely in your head, and you're only treating it as if these things are true, instead of these things actually being true. Are you a psychic mind reader? If not, why is this influencing the way you treat and think about women? | /r/ExRedPill | 24/03/26 11:31 PM |
| 3 | Guys do you think red pill will decline in the coming years?To be fair, it's already on the decline. Most red pill icons don't even exist or have a following anymore, people like Andrew Tate have fallen to the wayside and fallen into obscurity, etc.; it's already on the down swing. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/26 12:59 AM |
| 5 | Being 100% redpill was good while it lasted, trying to make it more like 50/50 now.That's definitely not redpill ideology. Redpill Ideology tries to market itself as if it's something like that, but it's not, once you actually listen to what Redpill Advocates talk about. | /r/ExRedPill | 01/03/26 09:35 AM |
| 3 | Why do you think relationships don't last as long as they used to?I think attributing relationships lasting shorter nowadays to it being a redpill thing is unbelievably ignorant. It's like saying Divorces happen more often nowadays due to relationships failing, and not because, y'know, single party divorces didn't happen until 1967, which means that if one person disagreed to a divorce, a divorce couldn't happen, which meant tons of women especially were trapped in abusive relationships. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/02/26 06:04 AM |
| 1 | An extroverted woman can fall in love with an introverted or shy man.That's a really bizarre mentality that doesn't even hold up in reality. Many leaders have been introverted, hell plenty were even explicitly antisocial. This is yet another testament to how useless and unhealthy that belief system is. | /r/ExRedPill | 14/02/26 11:43 AM |
| 1 | An extroverted woman can fall in love with an introverted or shy man.This. 90% of the posts on this sub now is this kid asking a bunch of questions like this. It's clear they're using Reddit as a therapist instead of seeking actual mental health support. | /r/ExRedPill | 14/02/26 09:22 AM |
| 1 | An extroverted woman can fall in love with an introverted or shy man.Well... I'm not sure what you're looking for specifically, but she is a big extrovert and loves talking to people and socializing. She also works a job where she interacts with people often in the fast food industry. We have a big friend group, and we hang out with said friend group together (albeit mostly online) in gaming sessions and such. So a lot of my socialization comes from her socializing and us doing things and hanging out together. Sometimes we hang out with individual friends irl, ty… | /r/ExRedPill | 14/02/26 09:18 AM |
| 1 | An extroverted woman can fall in love with an introverted or shy man.My girlfriend is extroverted. I am introverted. We've been together for a decade. | /r/ExRedPill | 14/02/26 12:02 AM |
| 7 | I saw a video of a woman saying she wants a tall, handsome, rich boyfriend. It really touched me.It's really not that hard to find a clip of anyone saying anything. That doesn't mean it actually is meaningful or that it should have any affect on your life. There is always at least one person that believes in something out there. Why care? | /r/ExRedPill | 14/02/26 12:01 AM |
| 11 | Personal experience matters way more than objective reality.The problem less so comes from people's personal experiences, and more so comes from these ideologies trying to force the idea that everyone universally functions the same way, and that there are rigid rules and pathways you can take to get what you want. And that's why redpill ideology is the biggest focus here, as it's undeniable that some men struggle in the dating scene, but redpillers try to perpetuate the universal rule that women are shallow and don't love the same way as men, and that yo… | /r/ExRedPill | 10/02/26 07:55 PM |
| 2 | Do you think a woman can be with a man who earns less, or does his hypergamy prevent it?.... What lol | /r/ExRedPill | 10/02/26 04:15 AM |
| 27 | Do you think a woman can be with a man who earns less, or does his hypergamy prevent it?Plenty of women are like her. You've just been fooled into thinking there aren't. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/02/26 07:56 AM |
| 15 | Do you think a woman can be with a man who earns less, or does his hypergamy prevent it?Been in a relationship with a woman that earns more than me for 10 years, now. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/02/26 07:56 AM |
| 12 | Do you think physical appearance matters?It matters in the sense that being attracted to your partner is an inherent requirement for a healthy relationship, however what people consider attractive doesn't always strictly align with what is considered "conventionally attractive". | /r/ExRedPill | 27/01/26 11:09 PM |
| 2 | Do you know any women who are protective of their husbands, not possessive, or who take the lead in the relationship?Do you even know what the "norm" of a relationship is? ~50% of all Americans feel financially independent, sitting at 50% for men, and 40% for women. These numbers ebb and flow based on different ages, demographics, and groups. There aren't even national averages in regards to various relationship statistics because there's so many different types of norms across relationships that an actual average number would be completely meaningless; average statistics for relationships can completely chang… | /r/ExRedPill | 27/01/26 11:05 PM |
| 2 | Do you know any women who are protective of their husbands, not possessive, or who take the lead in the relationship?Even if that was true, the fact that a lot of relationships outside of their "norm" can exist inherently proves how stupid it is to use their rules as word of law. | /r/ExRedPill | 27/01/26 10:22 PM |
| 19 | Do you know any women who are protective of their husbands, not possessive, or who take the lead in the relationship?I think you'll quickly find that Red Pill Ideologists don't have the slightest clue about how healthy relationships work, and that they're generally pretty damn wrong about a lot of things. I can assure you that there's no need to distrust women as a whole. If you approach any situation with the mentality of "Women act (certain way)" or "Men act (certain way)", you're going to be very, very, very, wrong about the reality of the situation. | /r/ExRedPill | 26/01/26 11:19 PM |
| 47 | Do you know any women who are protective of their husbands, not possessive, or who take the lead in the relationship?I mean... I'm in one of them. Been in a committed relationship with a woman for 10 years and she's the main provider, financially, for a lot of it. Not really sure what makes that so strange or scary for you. Never really got any problems from it. Nobody ever really shat on us for it. The only time we ever got any problems from it is from the occasional insecure guy who says I'm "not a real man", but it's never women saying that, it's always loser men who aren't in relationships anyway. | /r/ExRedPill | 26/01/26 08:39 PM |
| 5 | Opinions on Connor Beaton/ManTalks?In general, the best advice I can give is that you shouldn't form your opinions on entire demographics based on what some guy on the internet says. Of course, it doesn't hurt to focus on self improvement and to develop healthier habits that involve improving your well-being, but if your opinion on an entire demographic of people is, "I think (thing) is true because (guy on the internet) said this is true", that's just not a great reason to believe in something like that. People are incredibly co… | /r/ExRedPill | 18/01/26 08:11 PM |
| 4 | Worried that love is shallow, as evolutionary psychologists and neuroscientists suggest with how they write about it. Is there evidence that it isn't?As far as I know, Sapolsky is a very well respected neurobiologist and primatologist and is not regarded as a pseudoscientific grifter by the scientific community. I already replied to the other comment you made but I'll reply to clarify some things you mentioned here as well. It doesn't matter that he's a neurobiologist and primatologist. That doesn't mean everything he says is true, especially if any findings he has aren't reproducible. According to google's ai Completely disregarded already, … | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/26 06:58 AM |
| 2 | Do you know any women who love their stay-at-home husbands? I'm young, 17, and I'm coming off the red pill..... What? We were talking about the US because David Buss's studies are based in America. You randomly brought up ChatGPT whom brought up niche UK crime statistics, which is why I said it was stupid to bring up because there's no reason to think UK crime statistics would be representative of the entire rest of the world, i.e. bringing up specific UK crime statistics and then applying that to any other Country is really stupid. Therefore, I brought up US Statistics specifically because that was … | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/26 05:39 AM |
| 3 | Worried that love is shallow, as evolutionary psychologists and neuroscientists suggest with how they write about it. Is there evidence that it isn't?It's a multi-faceted issue. it isn't necessary that there was some critical "mistake" on their part, It's that you don't have the critical thinking capacity to understand what these studies mean and how they actually work and how you are meant to interface with them. I don't say that to be mean, you just genuinely don't understand or realize what these papers actually are or what they entail. They're scientific papers performing abstract studies involving statistics in various isolated populatio… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/26 03:35 AM |
| 4 | Worried that love is shallow, as evolutionary psychologists and neuroscientists suggest with how they write about it. Is there evidence that it isn't?"A meta-analysis, covering 919 studies and over 15,000 observers, reported that people agree, both within cultures and across cultures, who is attractive and who is not [2]. Men and women as well as people of all ages agree on who is attractive. This strongly suggests that judgments of physical attractiveness are hard-wired in human genetics, likely fixed at an early stage in our evolution. " Since this is an enormous study, so it must be strong and reliable. What you're saying is simply incorre… | /r/ExRedPill | 14/01/26 01:05 AM |
| 3 | Worried that love is shallow, as evolutionary psychologists and neuroscientists suggest with how they write about it. Is there evidence that it isn't?You misunderstand me, my point was that just because many social animals don't have social hierarchies, it doesn't mean humans don't have social hierarchies, which seemed to be your counterpoint when I said that humans are a socially hierarchical species. So I tried to say that there's a lot of variation among animals. The problem is that there genuinely isn't any measurable evidence that humans do. Not only is there is countless examples of this not being the case, but there's also tons of exam… | /r/ExRedPill | 14/01/26 12:41 AM |
| 4 | Worried that love is shallow, as evolutionary psychologists and neuroscientists suggest with how they write about it. Is there evidence that it isn't?Yes there are many animals that don't have hierarchies, but that's irrelevant to how humans behave I guess since animals are very different. Sapolsky says that humans are a hierarchical species and talks about how a lot of our instinctive behaviors, like what we do to make someone attracted to us, are to try to signal a high social status. So once again, we come back to where we started. How is it both ways? We compare ourselves to animals, yet we are actually drastically different to animals, S… | /r/ExRedPill | 13/01/26 06:06 AM |
| 3 | Do you know any women who love their stay-at-home husbands? I'm young, 17, and I'm coming off the red pill.I wonder how certain you are of the falsehood of what he states. This is what GPT tells me about your "statistically false statement": GPT is notoriously wrong, almost all of the time. Not exactly a reliable source. Also, fascinatingly, look at your own """source""". It is quoting specifically from British homicide data. Why in the hell would we generalize about the entire world, or apply homicide data from the UK, to the entire rest of the world? Here's some ACTUAL citations that are relevant t… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/01/26 01:31 AM |
| 6 | Worried that love is shallow, as evolutionary psychologists and neuroscientists suggest with how they write about it. Is there evidence that it isn't?Think critically about this. At it's most generous, Sapolsky has effectively said that we pick mates through a wide variety of factors which vary from person to person, many of which have nothing to do with superior genetics, like "social status". Also, animals don't "try" to reach social status, and there's plenty of animals that DON'T care about heirarchy. In fact, most of them don't; that's a common myth, linked to the whole "Alpha Wolf" thing. Wolves don't have a strict hierarchy; Wolves are… | /r/ExRedPill | 11/01/26 08:43 PM |
| 8 | Worried that love is shallow, as evolutionary psychologists and neuroscientists suggest with how they write about it. Is there evidence that it isn't?Evo-psychs and neuroscientists like Robert Sapolsky talk about how romantic love and attraction for men attracting women is all about trying to show off your superior genetics and your standing in a social hierarchy, and that this is why people fall in love. This is just blatantly wrong and it is exceptionally easy to disprove by simply looking around you and seeing how many people are in relationships who don't have "superior genetics". What does superior genetics even mean? So much of what det… | /r/ExRedPill | 11/01/26 07:26 AM |
| 12 | Do you know any men or women who quit the red pill and now have a healthy relationship with a woman or man who loves them?I'm sure they exist, it's just that most people don't fall into redpill ideology, and when they get out of it, they don't like to admit that they fell for that ideology in the first place. What I HAVE seen, however, is people who WERE in healthy relationships, but then they turned to redpill ideology, completely destroying their relationship and then being single and lonely. This is more "visible" because people are much more willing to announce becoming redpilled, over admitting they were grift… | /r/ExRedPill | 09/01/26 11:20 PM |
| 11 | Do you know any women who love their stay-at-home husbands? I'm young, 17, and I'm coming off the red pill.Same as what I said before; he falls for the same pitfalls of every other evolutionary psychology scientist, which is this; he makes wide sweeping generalizations about the entire human race, based on a very small select few individuals, within a specific subculture. He makes completely baseless, or even patently false claims, quite often. For example, he claims stepfathers murder their children more than biological fathers do; a statistically false statement, and almost everything he reports on… | /r/ExRedPill | 08/01/26 11:32 PM |
| 36 | Do you know any women who love their stay-at-home husbands? I'm young, 17, and I'm coming off the red pill.It's important to point out that red pill ideology isn't backed by statistics or biology. They like to pretend that it is, but it isn't. For example, they love talking about dating statistics in confidence, however they're only ACTUALLY talking about dating statistics from mobile dating apps, and ~10% of relationships come from people meeting on the internet, with an even smaller amount of that meeting on dating apps. That means almost the entirety of their ideology is built on skewed statistics… | /r/ExRedPill | 08/01/26 10:41 PM |
| 62 | Do you know any women who love their stay-at-home husbands? I'm young, 17, and I'm coming off the red pill.Been in a committed relationship for 10 years. She's the bread winner atm. Still going strong. Word of the wise; you're only 17. You have absolutely no clue what the world is actually like once you get out there. You're still just a kid. The vast, vast, vast majority of adults know red pill ideology is total bullshit, and you're exactly the target audience for their grift; kids who don't have any experience out in the world, making you the perfect target for them to fill your head full of lies i… | /r/ExRedPill | 08/01/26 10:15 PM |
| 15 | How do I get over patriarchal views for women?And if she still liked them, they wouldn't be exes. How are you a "Plan B" when those other relationships clearly didn't work out and she is now choosing you over them? It's not like she has the clairvoyant ability to know who the right partner would be ahead of time, and if you don't fix this toxic mentality, you won't be a right fit for her, either. | /r/ExRedPill | 31/12/25 01:35 AM |
| 10 | How do I get over patriarchal views for women?Ignore the more venomous responses. There are people here that are quick to judge people like you, and while those feelings you have are wrong, you are genuinely trying to change them, because you know they're wrong. What these venomous people don't understand is that your FEELINGS make you think those things, not your thoughts. It's like trying to tell someone with performance anxiety "It isn't going to be that bad". Like, sure, logically, it probably won't be that bad, but that uncertainty is … | /r/ExRedPill | 31/12/25 01:31 AM |
| 4 | If in real life only personality matters, then why with me, who am ugly, have only very ugly girls hit on me and never a cute and maybe shy girl?.... So your complaint is that you feel obligated to women that you find more attractive than the women who do reach out to you? If that doesn't make it obvious that you're the problem, I don't know what does. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/12/25 08:43 PM |
| 1 | Nice guys are not secret hateful manipulators that the internet likes to claimI'm not entirely sure what you meant by the 2nd paragraph; it's worded rather strangely and doesn't make much sense. What I will say though is, have you heard the phrase "There's no hate quite like Christian Love"? A lot of Christian, Islam, etc. "kindness" is prefaced with what you're allowed to be kind towards, in order to appease God and get into Heaven. That's why you get, for example, Christian Prosecution towards the LGBT Community over totally minor and mundane things, or extensive discri… | /r/ExRedPill | 13/11/25 06:52 PM |
| 1 | Nice guys are not secret hateful manipulators that the internet likes to claimhad I myself became a parent, it is going to be hard to teach your Children to be a meathead asshole or bullshit talker to their opposite sex parent instead of teaching them to give their parent flowers and help doing housework. This is exactly the problem. When did anyone say this? That’s why I relate a lot to OP. I do not digest being “assertive” and “confident” (AKA being a Blatant Abusive Asshole) over being a Nice Guy who does think about the well being of their Crush/SO (and being accused … | /r/ExRedPill | 13/11/25 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Nice guys are not secret hateful manipulators that the internet likes to claim.... What? I've said it multiple times and I'll say it again. There's nothing wrong with kindness and compassion. Never once was that ever said by anyone, ever. I said it multiple times, both in my original comment and the one you replied to. Look, maybe this digestible video will help. This is a channel called Cinema Therapy which covers mental health and how it relates to movies in Cinema, and in the movie MEGAMIND, although it's a comedy movie, the character Hal Stewart is a classic example o… | /r/ExRedPill | 13/11/25 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Here’s why it doesn’t make sense to care about a women’s number of sexual partners if you don’t care more about education when looking to avoid divorce:What exactly was your point, if I may ask? The data shows that rape and coercion are what creates these discrepancies, not the mere act of having consensual sex at a certain age. | /r/ExRedPill | 04/11/25 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Here’s why it doesn’t make sense to care about a women’s number of sexual partners if you don’t care more about education when looking to avoid divorce:Sure, but there's a number of reasons for it. This is a very complicated matter. For example, the vast majority of higher divorce rates with women who had sex when they were young, were primarily due to having unwanted sex. I.e. coercion or rape. Otherwise, if it was consensual, the results were nuanced and more akin to women who chose to wait until later in life to have sex. In layman's terms, the percentages flatten out and are broadly consistent if we don't include rape and coercion. This is … | /r/ExRedPill | 04/11/25 02:03 PM |
| 23 | Still believe that women will leave for betterYou said it yourself; you haven't been in a relationship, so how would you know? Good, healthy relationships are an emotional bond between two people, not one based on rules regarding how much your partner can give you. If you get into a relationship with someone because they only care about what you can give them, i.e. wealth and assets, instead of how you make them feel, then you simply shouldn't be in a relationship with them. Thankfully, that's how most relationships are; an emotional bond a… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/04/25 11:41 AM |
| 43 | What bothers me the mostA good way to put it is that any decent man never falls for this stuff. Red Pill Ideology prays on dumb people or troubled and insecure people, i.e. people you likely would not want to be in a relationship with. Don't value yourself based on bizarre fringe thoughts grifters on the Internet believe; you aren't missing out on decent partners because of redpill ideology. Bad partners are missing out on you because of that ideology. That's the saving grace of Red Pill Ideology; since it tricks men i… | /r/ExRedPill | 14/02/25 08:24 AM |
| 2 | Nice guys are not secret hateful manipulators that the internet likes to claimahh, yes, I love that video! | /r/ExRedPill | 21/01/25 04:01 PM |
| 8 | I hooked up with a woman that started my ex red pill journey. (Long Read)Having your shit together doesn't necessarily mean being well off and being financially successful, having your shit together means you're aware of your problems and you're taking responsibility for your actions and having a clear path in life. Not having your shit together would be something along the lines of stagnating in a shitty spot, taking no affirmative action to improve yourself, and blaming your problems on the world around you. | /r/ExRedPill | 10/01/25 07:55 PM |
| 21 | I hooked up with a woman that started my ex red pill journey. (Long Read)It's a good first step to your healing journey. Masculinity isn't about being macho, fucking lots of women, and generally being aggressive and toxic. Notice how all of what you've said has come from other men, not from women. When they say masculinity, they refer to what makes a good man. A good man is not a toxic asshole who beats or holds resentment towards women. That's a coward, and a pathetic one at that. A good man is someone who has their shit together, is genuine, respects others, and is… | /r/ExRedPill | 10/01/25 02:04 AM |
| 3 | Nice guys are not secret hateful manipulators that the internet likes to claimI got taken advantage of when I had trouble socializing at high school because I had social anxiety after being locked at home for almost two years because of covid. That's really the tragedy of it. And I hope nothing of what I've said feels like judging you or making fun of you. Let me put it this way; I used to be very insecure during high school. I also had some physical characteristics that I was deeply insecure about at the time. It gave me really bad social anxiety to the point of being af… | /r/ExRedPill | 09/01/25 10:08 PM |
| 8 | Nice guys are not secret hateful manipulators that the internet likes to claimOut of curiosity, when you say popular phrases with poorly chosen wording, what exactly do you mean? In regards to the rest of what you've said in which you've listed as examples; "being nice is bad" is not a societal norm. You're conflating that with something else, mistakenly, and I'm confused as to why you think this is. "Male sexuality is inherently bad" is not a societal norm. What rhetoric have you seen that makes you think this is a societal belief? "You're worse than a bear" is, I'm gues… | /r/ExRedPill | 09/01/25 09:16 PM |
| 7 | Nice guys are not secret hateful manipulators that the internet likes to claimIt definitely is a systemic issue with ghettos. A lot of people in them just don't know the bigger picture at all. There's not many resources for the hood because they're all just stuck in that environment with little education opportunities and opportunities for their lives to improve. Most of them don't even have much access to the Internet. The best thing for people like you or me who became disillusioned to it is to get out of that environment and into healthier places, but that's definitely… | /r/ExRedPill | 09/01/25 07:24 PM |
| 16 | Nice guys are not secret hateful manipulators that the internet likes to claimYou have pretty much admitted that a lot of this is just your deep insecurities and you're falling for rhetoric that validates your insecurities. You need proper therapy; the help you need isn't the kind you're going to get on Reddit. | /r/ExRedPill | 09/01/25 07:20 PM |
| 11 | Nice guys are not secret hateful manipulators that the internet likes to claimI think this is less so a global issue that applies to women as a whole and moreso a localized systemic issue. It's a very sensitive conversation, so I'll try to be careful with how I word it. I also came from the hood; I grew up in the very impoverished parts of Michigan, from Detroit to the surrounding areas. The culture was very violent and awful. A lot of people resorted to crime and violence in order to get by. It was hard to avoid because it was what was happening with everyone around me. … | /r/ExRedPill | 09/01/25 07:17 PM |
| 18 | Nice guys are not secret hateful manipulators that the internet likes to claimWhen did I ever say to avoid love language? If you meet a woman, and then love bomb her and smother her in affection and praise and admiration without ever even actually learning about who they are as a human being or establishing some form of friendship or bond, that's exceptionally disingenuous and pretty creepy. Manipulation is not a love language. | /r/ExRedPill | 09/01/25 07:00 PM |
| 18 | Nice guys are not secret hateful manipulators that the internet likes to claimYou're exactly right, the amount of actual nice guys outnumber the weird manipulative men out there. The problem is that you're making a lot of assumptions about how the world works due to some conclusion you came to in your own head. None of the things you've said even have any actual evidence outside of you just guessing that's how the world works. When people talk about nice guys, they simply aren't talking about the people you are describing. | /r/ExRedPill | 09/01/25 06:56 PM |
| 34 | Nice guys are not secret hateful manipulators that the internet likes to claimWhat exactly do you think people mean when they talk about "nice guys"? "Nice guys" doesn't mean well-behaved, kind, honest men. Nice guys refers to people who deliberately use manipulation tactics like love bombing and other obsessive behavior in order to try and gain the affection of women, and then get mad when women don't fall for it. Hence the term "nice guys". | /r/ExRedPill | 09/01/25 06:45 PM |
| 3 | Neediness vs Wanting a relationship?To be fair, at the end of the day, what they're saying is that communicating with your partner about your needs and respecting each other's boundaries is important for a successful relationship. That's really not that hard to do. | /r/ExRedPill | 02/01/25 09:42 PM |
| 6 | Message to Struggling Men!there's plenty of problems with evopsychology. It's pretty well understood in the field of science that it tends to come up with inconclusive results; many evolutionary psychologists themselves attest to this. Evopsychology also fails to factor in various things like cultural differences and where the line between biological behavior and psychological, individual behavior is, or social trends. For example, we aren't biologically predisposed to be attracted to men with large penises. We're cultur… | /r/ExRedPill | 31/12/24 02:34 PM |
| 3 | Sharing my storyBeing bisexual comes with a lot of discourse, nowadays, unfortunately. Bisexual women often get fetishized a lot as well. I'm a cis hetero man dating a bi woman and she has told me horror stories. I know her ex was deeply insecure and restricted her from ever making any friends because her being Bi meant she could cheat on him with *anyone*, so she needed to self-isolate. It's interesting seeing how LGBT problems can also become warped and distorted by Redpill Ideology. | /r/ExRedPill | 26/12/24 10:28 PM |
| 10 | Help refuting articles by Aaron RennThe first piece of advice isn't necessarily redpill advice, as self-improvement is important for anyone. It also deliberately misrepresents what people mean by "Be yourself" and frames it as mutually exclusive, which is dishonest. Be yourself doesn't mean to never change and then stagnate, Be Yourself means to be an authentic and respectful person who is genuinely enjoyable to be around, instead of putting on a front and practicing "fake" behaviors to look more attractive to women just because s… | /r/ExRedPill | 26/12/24 12:03 AM |
| 15 | What red pillers get wrong about the "girls love bad boys" tropeDo you really, truly, honest to god, believe this? That's sad, man. If that were true, Andrew Tate's fanbase wouldn't be pretty much entirely male. | /r/ExRedPill | 19/12/24 06:56 AM |
| 2 | Skewness in attractionCheck my argument with the other guy. I sent him multiple links and studies with every single reply, per his request. I know you saw them because you replied to one of my replies to him in the thread that I was arguing with him in. I assumed that argument was why you said "you're coming with such claims" because you very much saw the other conversations that were being had. | /r/ExRedPill | 19/12/24 06:53 AM |
| 2 | Skewness in attractionI just want to point out I've cited and substantiated my claims thoroughly via numerous links, studies, research, and scientific journals. That's because anecdotal evidence of "I think women experience less attraction than men due to my own limited personal experience" is not good enough evidence to make any definitive claims. You can keep ignoring that, but going "Nuh-uh" to it and just outright rejecting it isn't really a counter-argument. That's just you plugging your ears and refusing to lis… | /r/ExRedPill | 19/12/24 03:35 AM |
| 14 | What aspects of the redpill are most harmful and which pieces actually have merit?The only good parts of the "Red Pill Movement" are things that work well as general advice and have nothing to do with Red Pill, like self-improvement and self-care. Self-help can be found anywhere and it's the core of a lot of people's issues. Red Pill simultaneously ruins this advice by advocating for people to practice self-care for all the wrong reasons. It is very self-sabotage-y, and the rampant sexism and blatant lack of understanding on how people work is brutal. It's hard to think of po… | /r/ExRedPill | 18/12/24 01:39 AM |
| 15 | What advice would you give to someone still in r/redpill who is questioning their beliefs?The most important thing to do is to figure out what an echo chamber is, and also figure out what confirmation bias is. After that, it's important to look outside of that echo chamber, and to not focus so hard on observations that confirm your biases. One of the biggest failings of redpill ideology is not understanding that humans are unbelievably complex and diverse, and thinking that entire groups of people all think and behave exactly the same. Actually learning about all the different types … | /r/ExRedPill | 17/12/24 12:51 AM |
| 3 | Skewness in attractionDon't you know? All women are hiveminds who behave exactly the same, and you as an individual doesn't exist! This is the grossest part of redpill rhetoric. People who have absolutely zero experience with women, making huge sweeping generalizations about how women act. | /r/ExRedPill | 17/12/24 12:44 AM |
| 5 | Skewness in attractionIf you read the rest of the argument, I sent many sources and studies proving that the averages are the same. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/12/24 09:15 AM |
| 4 | Skewness in attractionAgain... I'm not sure what you mean. When men and women's 'sex desire rates' are averaged out, they're roughly the same. There's not necessarily one sex or the other that is more attracted to another sex. Human sexual attraction is primarily cultural and heavily depends on the individual themselves. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/12/24 09:14 AM |
| 4 | Skewness in attraction... Did you even actually read the studies? Oh, wait, you said you read only the abstracts. When the abstract says that they're making a claim, the study itself has extensive evidence to support the claim. On top of that, here's a full article doing studies filling gaps in literature; a study can't just be "I'm making this claim!", or else it wouldn't be in a medical journal. It's why asking for studies is difficult because unless you actually look at the literature yourself you aren't going to … | /r/ExRedPill | 13/12/24 01:14 AM |
| 4 | Skewness in attractionThe fact that you can completely dismiss my anecdotal evidence with the same amount of scrutiny proves my point entirely. | /r/ExRedPill | 13/12/24 12:33 AM |
| 4 | Skewness in attractionSent the studies on your other thread. | /r/ExRedPill | 12/12/24 02:03 PM |
| 5 | Skewness in attractionThey explicitly say the study, the authors of said studies, and the articles themselves, plus the results of the studies done. If you really want me to dig for the studies I can, but you are actively dismissing the entire article via a skim-through. Here's one immediate example; this study drove to find an objective deterministic description of how sex drive works. As expected, men initially were reported to experience a higher sex drive. However with biases removed, the split was about 50/50, a… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/12/24 01:50 PM |
| 4 | Skewness in attractionI did send you a source. I asked you to Google it because it's so unbelievably easy to find out that it would be exhausting to send you them. But I can send you more if you like. This was the original source: https://www.webmd.com/sex/features/sex-drive-how-do-men-women-compare You don't understand that I can pretty much dismiss the majority of what you're saying with your concept of human sexuality because it's blatantly incongruent with reality and is you just making sweeping assumptions about… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/12/24 01:23 PM |
| 7 | Skewness in attractionI sent you a source that provided numerous studies showing that men and women experience equal sexual attraction on your comment thread. I pointed out that sexuality is incredibly complex and you can't generalize men or women being more prone to sexual desires because we already know how human sexuality works, and trying to say one or the other experiences it more intensely shows a fundamental lack of understanding of what human sexuality actually is. | /r/ExRedPill | 12/12/24 01:21 PM |
| 3 | Skewness in attractionHere's one of the many articles that study this exact subject. https://www.webmd.com/sex/features/sex-drive-how-do-men-women-compare It talks pretty extensively about the results of various sex drive and sex desire studies across many demographics over the past few decades and the results always came up that there was no probability that either men or women were more likely to experience sexual attraction or to have a more intense sex drive. Every study on this topic comes to the same conclusion… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/12/24 01:17 PM |
| 8 | Skewness in attractionDude, no, you're just genuinely misinformed and completely ignorant of how human sexuality works. Genuinely. This isn't a world view thing, you're just blatantly wrong. Human sexuality is incredibly complex and differs from person to person, as well as from culture to culture. Sexual attraction is completely sex agnostic and we know this for a fact; for example, muscular bodies are recognized as attractive by both sexes, and studies show that gay men and women both tend to be attracted to them o… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/12/24 01:08 PM |
| 7 | Skewness in attraction... What? That genuinely makes no sense, and we know for a fact this isn't how human attraction works because human attraction is widely studied and extensively documented. How does someone even become this horrifically misinformed? | /r/ExRedPill | 12/12/24 09:11 AM |
| 6 | Skewness in attractionWe know this because there's no evidence of it not being true. Essentially, it's impossible to generalize a statement like this, because attraction differs wildly from person to person, and there's different aspects of attraction, with each individual, regardless of sex, dictating said attraction. Both men and women also have wide variations between sex drives, attraction, etc.; It's why the question is absurd; it comes from a complete lack of understanding of how the human mind works. | /r/ExRedPill | 12/12/24 09:05 AM |
| 6 | Skewness in attractionI'm not necessarily sure what the question is even asking. Are you asking if heterosexual men are more attracted to women than heterosexual women are to men? If so, that very question's existence is pretty silly considering how complex human attraction is and how it differs from person to person. | /r/ExRedPill | 12/12/24 08:59 AM |
| 3 | Skewness in attractionThat's not really evidence, though. Anecdotally it's pretty easy to single out the negative experiences while simultaneously ignoring the dozens upon dozens of men who simply do nothing and don't have those feelings/behaviors/thoughts. I can easily provide anecdotal evidence to women doing the same thing, but I'm not going to present that as evidence of women being shallow, because, obviously, the bigger picture is much different than that. | /r/ExRedPill | 12/12/24 08:57 AM |
| 2 | Conflict and Connection in CouplesIt's important to point out that this post is riddled with pretty personal assumptions about the entire dynamic of entire relationships, and it sounds like you don't have much experience with this sort of thing. For example; you talk about 90% of all LTR's living in constant conflict. That is a wild observation. I am in an LTR, and many LTR's I've seen and are close to are definitely not what I would describe as "in constant conflict". To that end, do 90% of all LTR really live in constant confl… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/12/24 07:38 AM |
| 1 | I am a woman and RP makes dating men impossible for me.Er... The article isn't gated. I found it immediately just from browsing it on Google. Besides that, the Article you sent me is literally citing the NY Times. The NY Times is the author of the article I just sent you, because the NY Times was addressing articles like the one you sent which completely misrepresented what their original article was about. In the article I linked to you, it explains how, in their original NY Times article, it documented the chieftain being concerned about the Marub… | /r/ExRedPill | 18/11/24 05:40 PM |
| 2 | I am a woman and RP makes dating men impossible for me.I looked into this Amazonian Tribe thing you talked about and one of the first results was actually debunking the claim that they immediately got addicted to pornography. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/11/world/americas/no-a-remote-amazon-tribe-did-not-get-addicted-to-porn.html One thing that I find interesting is that they mentioned feeling very dehumanized and uncomfortable with being seen as a porn addicted amazonian tribe, explaining how it feels very condescending and completely defames th… | /r/ExRedPill | 18/11/24 12:50 PM |
| 5 | I am a woman and RP makes dating men impossible for me.One of the most common sentiments when it comes to this type of thing is that you'll often see what you're afraid to find. As-in, when you train your brain to always be looking for red flags, you'll end up seeing them everywhere. Especially depending on where you look. It's why these redpill beliefs are so perverse and destructive; we tend to think in negatives, and it's hard to see the forest for the trees, because the bountiful amounts of normal men just living their lives don't impact us near… | /r/ExRedPill | 13/11/24 08:57 AM |
| 4 | I am a woman and RP makes dating men impossible for me.There isn't really any actual evidence of this that's substantial, however? While there's terrible things that happen in the porn industry and porn addiction is very real, it often isn't pornography existing in general causing horrible things to happen. Quite a lot of people consume porn healthily with no real negative impact on their lives, and it's just important to be mindful of it. Same goes for gaming. There's also different types of porn. Would you say erotic literature is destructive to s… | /r/ExRedPill | 13/11/24 08:52 AM |
| 2 | How can I handle all of that rejection?It's important to understand what rejection actually means. It's nothing personal. It doesn't mean you're unattractive or terrible or have low self-worth. People are just super complicated and dedicating your life with someone is a huge commitment. You yourself even say you don't really have many female friends so it's not like your sample size is exactly that high. | /r/ExRedPill | 11/11/24 02:22 AM |
| 2 | Is it just me or are dating gurus just insecure men that blame women for their short comings?It's less so making fun of his appearance just to be mean, and moreso making fun of his appearance to point out the irony in the whole looksmaxxing alpha male ideology that gets pushed by these types. It's very ironic that an ideology that preaches how important it is to be super wealthy and attractive is lead by a rapist delinquent grifter who is likely less conventionally attractive than the struggling men that he tries to take advantage of. | /r/ExRedPill | 26/10/24 06:21 AM |
| 4 | My personality type will never be popular with women, and I have hard time coping with thatI mean... You can? You can still very much do that. You just keep asserting things you think are true, when they actually aren't. | /r/ExRedPill | 24/10/24 02:56 AM |
| 3 | My personality type will never be popular with women, and I have hard time coping with thatWhy do you think this is true? This may not be a personality type that very preppy supermodel types would be into, but that doesn't mean nobody would ever be attracted to that. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/10/24 10:13 PM |
| 2 | Dealing with contradictionsGood man. You're right; saying least reliable methods wasn't fair, but I'm glad this conversation was helpful and constructive for you. I wish you well on your journey and I hope this conversation was some good food for thought! | /r/ExRedPill | 12/09/24 09:26 PM |
| 3 | Dealing with contradictionsThe best thing I can tell you is to temper your expectations and to not focus so hard on this goal. Relationships are a gigantic commitment and nobody wants to commit themselves to someone that is desperate and is focused on the goal of getting a girlfriend, instead of trying to form genuine connections. Remember, your self-worth isn't determined by if you're in a relationship or not. There's plenty of things you can do to meet people and form genuine connections, too, and finding things to bond… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/09/24 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Dealing with contradictionsI think you missed both of our points. We're both trying to tell you that going out of your way to try and find strategies and solutions to getting women attracted to you, is always going to fail, because humans are extremely complicated and there's no one-size-fits-all solution for finding romance. They weren't disagreeing with my stance on dating apps, they were saying that it's fair to have insecurities and self-worth issues relating to dating apps since they're quite prominent nowadays and a… | /r/ExRedPill | 11/09/24 11:00 PM |
| 4 | Dealing with contradictionsKeep in mind, I wasn't saying he shouldn't use dating apps, just that they are very infamously not very effective and it's important for people to have realistic expectations about them and to not tie their self worth or world views around how successful his dating app endeavors are. He directly said that his lack of success on dating apps makes him feel unattractive and undesirable and contributes to all the contradictory world views he sees. So it was important to point out how the vast majori… | /r/ExRedPill | 10/09/24 06:15 PM |
| 6 | Dealing with contradictionsSomething I strongly recommend is looking at the pinned thread on this subreddit; the redpill detox subreddit specifically. It covers a lot of these topics in great detail and shows actual, real science and studies behind how people work. The long and short of it is, humans are extremely diverse and complex and there's no one-size-fits-all solution for dating. Women are just as complex as men are and in general it's important to understand that the best way to date is to make friends and form ge… | /r/ExRedPill | 09/09/24 09:09 PM |
| 1 | How do you deal with being "mogged"?Earnestly, why do you think their opinions are more "correct"? There's plenty of morons who have a lot of money. There's plenty of attractive morons, too. That's kinda the whole point of Ken in the Barbie movie for example. You're applying way too much value into the supposed lives of strangers on the Internet and are comparing yourself to people that you see on a screen. You mentioned that people assume that those who argue with rich/attractive people envy them, but that's not really what deter… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/09/24 12:05 AM |
| 2 | How can I stop seeing myself as post-wall?There's unfortunately not much advice we can give you here, outside of looking at the megathread and finding the actual reality behind how people work. The problem is that you're believing in something that is simply not congruent with reality, and the type of men you would be trying to please by believing in this, aren't men you should be seeking, regardless. What kind of information or evidence are you looking for? What do you think it would take for you to change your mind? | /r/ExRedPill | 03/09/24 05:12 PM |
| 2 | I don't believe that "every woman sleeps with chads"You haven't really answered my question or rebutted any of my claims, you just kinda doubled down, said "tons of men you've talked to corroborate your claim" which is difficult for me cause I don't even know what your claim is exactly, and then asserted that I lack empathy. You gotta see the forest for the trees, man. How often are you talking with people outside of your personal spaces that you agree with? Do you really think the average person is going around having those kinds of prejudices a… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/08/24 03:46 AM |
| 2 | Is it Red-Pill to Believe that “Leagues” Exist?This exactly. Dating Apps aren't that great, and they're especially horrible if they're your sole method of meeting new people. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/08/24 07:59 PM |
| 2 | I don't believe that "every woman sleeps with chads"What do you mean that "Basically everything" tells men that their dating life is a big piece of their value? I'm lost on you with that. I've never seen anything that tells me that. I've never been pressured into that. Nobody's ever made fun of me whenever I was single during any part of my life, and whenever I saw it happening to someone else, there was quite significant push back towards the guy making fun of the other person that was single. That is a strange statement. Your examples that you … | /r/ExRedPill | 15/08/24 07:57 PM |
| 2 | I don't believe that "every woman sleeps with chads"The thing with dating is to emphasize what I said earlier; when you're fishing, you're going to catch a lot of fish. There's many circumstances behind it and while it is indeed a game of chance, the vast majority of people don't find the love of their life by actively fishing for it, or at least they need to fish for a while until they find the right one. To clarify, I didn't say the circumstances behind those traits as not being apparent as being the truth, I said it was a possibility. It's mor… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/08/24 04:41 AM |
| 2 | I don't believe that "every woman sleeps with chads"That's the thing with dating; if you're fishing, you're going to be getting a lot of fish, but that doesn't mean you're necessarily going to only be getting the fish that you "want". There's a lot of people in the world. It's also important to have an accurate self image. Maybe those traits about yourself that seem apparent to you, aren't very apparent to anyone else. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/08/24 04:01 AM |
| 2 | Is it Red-Pill to Believe that “Leagues” Exist?It depends on what you'd define as a "league". If you simply think they aren't on the same level of attractiveness, that typically varies from person to person, so while you could very easily think they're out of his league, he himself might not think the same thing, and if he thinks that he has a chance, you aren't really going to be able to convince him otherwise without putting him down and making him feel lesser about himself, which, I hope, is pretty obvious to you that it isn't a good solu… | /r/ExRedPill | 13/08/24 09:28 PM |
| 8 | Redpillers are extremely childishThe problem with evolutionary psychology isn't necessarily in regards to the fact that it exists, it's that bad apples will try to use it's existence to push a narrative that there is some pre-deterministic drive between all humans that create some strange universal rule in regards to what mates we pick, due to incomplete or inconclusive data. This narrative is completely false and very easy to disprove, due to just.. Observing reality. While there can be handpicked studies that show certain tre… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/08/24 11:44 PM |
| 20 | Redpillers are extremely childishI don't think the reality of the situation is that most of the world is cruel and that things are awful, I think it's moreso that people tend to focus on the most negative circumstances or symptoms that people find themselves in and fail to see the forest for the trees. Redpill/Blackpill ideology for example solely focuses on those negative aspects and will put horrible things they see on a pedestal as if it's indicative of what the wider public believes as a whole, even when it's very easy to d… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/08/24 11:29 PM |
| 17 | Why is there always so much pushback to young men who claim that the reason they can’t get a date is 100% the way they look?Simply put, it's because it isn't due to their looks the vast majority of the time. A lot of people who use that excuse either; Have a horrible and toxic personality, but use looks as a cope because it's easier to swallow if it's something supposedly out of their control. Have completely unrealistic expectations of what they think women should be doing, and assume they aren't successful due to said unrealistic expectations, but aren't understanding that they aren't actually putting in any work t… | /r/ExRedPill | 04/08/24 04:23 PM |
| 9 | Are most people just not attracted to people they date in a physical sense?To explain my reasoning, I'll walk you through it step by step: Your claim was that men, by-and-large, are attracted to sex dolls, and would buy one if they could afford it, and that trends are important for us to learn more about how people behave. There is literally no basis for this claim, and has no evidence to support it at all, so I had to establish that basis FOR you, and the best place to start is to establish who actually buys sex toys. From here, we had to establish what the actual tre… | /r/ExRedPill | 31/07/24 03:19 AM |
| 6 | Are most people just not attracted to people they date in a physical sense?I brought up sex toys because realistic sex dolls are sex toys. Therefore if you're going to talk about analytics, you need to talk about them from the perspective of people who buy sex toys, because those are the people buying sex dolls. You are making blanket statements towards men as a whole because of a niche sex toy that people who use sex toys don't care about. The statistics and evidence do not at all corroborate your claim. | /r/ExRedPill | 31/07/24 02:18 AM |
| 14 | Are most people just not attracted to people they date in a physical sense?The reason why it's an absurd blanket statement is because it's completely lacking context and the bigger picture. For example, the high cost of purchase is a barrier to whom? Every Male? Or only the people who are involved in the sex toy market? This is an absurd statement to make because the vast majority of sex toy sales are for female products, NOT male ones, and the ones that do buy sex toys don't use it for solo play. So making the claim that most men would actually be attracted to a sex d… | /r/ExRedPill | 30/07/24 11:59 PM |
| 5 | I don't believe that "every woman sleeps with chads"It's not dogmatic, it's objectively true, on a very baseline basis. How are you going to establish your needs with your partner, and also understand what your partner needs and wants, and establish sexual understanding and sexual compatibility without communicating? There's many facets, like fetishes, boundaries, etc. that need to be discussed and established, and those are things that happen through communication. You literally cannot have good sex without communicating with your partner, becau… | /r/ExRedPill | 30/07/24 11:46 PM |
| 28 | Are most people just not attracted to people they date in a physical sense?Just because some men do, doesn't mean it's commonplace at all. Basing how men or women act due to trends in the porn industry is just utterly ignorant. | /r/ExRedPill | 30/07/24 11:00 PM |
| 6 | I don't believe that "every woman sleeps with chads"To your first statement, sex isn't about validation for "men", sex is about validation for insecure men, especially of those men have nothing going on. Women can be this way, too; tragically, it's especially common for female victims of sexual assault. It's always rooted in insecurity. For more clarification, I and the vast majority of other men don't need to feel validated by having sex with strangers. If you use sex for validation it's no different than chasing an addiction which is never fulf… | /r/ExRedPill | 30/07/24 10:56 PM |
| 14 | Are most people just not attracted to people they date in a physical sense?It's important to point out that attraction is a fluid and dynamic thing, and there is multiple facets to attraction. There is physical and social attraction, and both of those aren't on an "on a scale of 1-10" basis, 'nor do they always overshadow each other; they compliment each other. For example, if you grow old with someone, they likely aren't going to be very physically attractive anymore when they're like, 60, but that doesn't mean you don't love them or aren't attracted to them anymore, … | /r/ExRedPill | 30/07/24 10:25 PM |
| 6 | I don't believe that "every woman sleeps with chads"It's not an issue of lacking close bonds or anything like that, it's the actions and goals being taken. The problem is that they are idolizing the act of sex itself instead of respecting the human being they are idolizing having sex with. They fixate on having sex, reduce sex to solely being driven by how "high quality" a woman is (which is a whole mess in-and-of itself), and then are using redpill ideology as a shortcut to accomplish that goal, instead of doing what every other human being does… | /r/ExRedPill | 29/07/24 08:54 PM |
| 5 | I don't believe that "every woman sleeps with chads"I'm not even sure to dignify this with a response. I'll just say your comment history and account makes it pretty clear you're either delusional or a troll. | /r/ExRedPill | 29/07/24 04:13 PM |
| 14 | I don't believe that "every woman sleeps with chads"I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that statement; I'm not sure if you understood the point I was making. The point was that people who fall for the Redpill ideology tend to absolutely idolize sex, with their end goal being to have sex with women that they deem as "high quality women", often determined by conventional attractiveness; they're essentially a chaser, removing the humanity from the individual and focusing on desperately digging for sex instead, usually influenced by warped beliefs… | /r/ExRedPill | 29/07/24 02:37 PM |
| 23 | I don't believe that "every woman sleeps with chads"Something you'll see in a lot of redpill circles is that they often love dismissing the average individual's experience. They focus exclusively on extremes, and something you'll see pretty often in regards to these circles is phrases like the "quality of women". I've seen it proposed many times before, including on this sub, where these types of men will explicitly say that they don't care about "settling" with the average woman, describing any woman that isn't a conventionally attractive superm… | /r/ExRedPill | 28/07/24 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Who are redpill women?There's a number of reasons. The big ones are that the woman somehow has something to gain from it, typically financial, whether it be from traffic, donations, selling something to you like guide books and advice, etc., there's also the very real fact that it's pretty common for social media accounts online to be fake in order to push some sort of agenda. It's almost a meme at this point. | /r/ExRedPill | 24/07/24 04:12 AM |
| 0 | Garnering female interest: being hard to get or aloof?This isn't my personal opinion. It's substantiated by multiple studies and statistics; I'll link 2 off the top of my head. To clarify, too, I should've been more clear about separating casual sex and hook-ups. Obviously, responsible adults having casual sex in a non-romantic way that have a close bond or friendship has more room for being positive. I'm specifically talking about hookups and trying to "score". It's shown pretty consistently that going for hookups and trying to pick up chicks resu… | /r/ExRedPill | 13/07/24 11:34 PM |
| 2 | Garnering female interest: being hard to get or aloof?I feel like there's some pretty bad cultural beliefs you've developed that need to be unlearned. Sex is not intimacy to just guys. Sex is intimacy to the vast majority of human beings. The fact that you said that at all has some really slimy implications. Hook-ups and casual sex aren't a common thing and the vast majority of men and women regret doing it when they do. Ironically, statistics show that men are more likely to try and get hook-ups and are less "intimate" than women (albeit not a gen… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/07/24 09:59 PM |
| 2 | Garnering female interest: being hard to get or aloof?I unfortunately don't remember the movie, but I remember being really disturbed by the lesson it was trying to teach considering how incompatible with reality it is. | /r/ExRedPill | 12/07/24 09:18 PM |
| 4 | Garnering female interest: being hard to get or aloof?I guess it depends on what you mean by "Intent". If you intend on trying to hook up and get in their pants, that's generally not a healthy activity in general and the vast majority of women simply won't go through with that, due to it being dangerous, unsafe, and uncomfortable, so I would recommend not trying to do that in the first place. If your intent is to simply start establishing meaningful relationships with women through friendships and bonds and such, just treat them the same way you wo… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/07/24 09:16 PM |
| 8 | Garnering female interest: being hard to get or aloof?So the thing is, if they told you "Act like you are not interested in them" or something along those lines, it's possible you either misinterpreted them, or didn't understand what they mean. Typically, it's very likely what they meant was to just not obsess over women and fixate on them. Women, like any other human being, appreciate when you treat them like humans and fellow people instead of targets or prey. Being friends and being respectful is an important first step for a meaningful relation… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/07/24 09:03 PM |
| 11 | How do I keep a woman?How would it have been due to you being 5'7, effeminate, undominant, with a shit car, if she was willing to have sex with you in the first place? I feel like there's something missing from the story, here. | /r/ExRedPill | 09/07/24 02:49 AM |
| 5 | To any men struggling with seeking validation through female attention; maybe my story can help you. (And maybe men that are better than me can help articulate my point better than me)Blackpill is an entirely separate conversation, you're right, but both Redpill and Blackpill are predicated on completely unrealistic and delusional perspectives of reality, which require a complete lack of understanding towards how people actually work in our society. The first thing to explain is that it's scientifically proven that there's far more circumstances that determine attractiveness than physical appearance. There's tons of studies on this, and tons of articles explaining it. Attract… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/07/24 08:17 PM |
| 3 | To any men struggling with seeking validation through female attention; maybe my story can help you. (And maybe men that are better than me can help articulate my point better than me)You said that "The sooner you get self esteem and get content, the sooner you can navigate dating in a healthy way" is blue pill propaganda, and unrealistic advice that has no basis on reality. That is blatant Redpill rhetoric; it'd be genuinely absurd to say otherwise. | /r/ExRedPill | 07/07/24 07:54 PM |
| 13 | To any men struggling with seeking validation through female attention; maybe my story can help you. (And maybe men that are better than me can help articulate my point better than me)OP is indeed being realistic. In the real world, "Chads" and "Staceys" are meaningless words. In the real world, anyone who read the essay you just wrote here would be deeply repulsed by you. In the real world, there is more than just supermodels and overweight trans women. That's why redpill ideology is so absurd. That mentality is completely warped by the Internet, fueled by rage-baiting circlejerks insecurity. "Bluepill" advice gets vehemently rejected, yet Redpill advice has been proven coun… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/07/24 07:36 PM |
| 1 | This sub is why I can't break out from the red pill thinking.While I do agree that this sub tends to demonize people who are struggling, I don't think that should drive your ideology. People being assholes doesn't necessarily correlate with reality. If you are seeking more constructive conversations about male struggles, I would recommend the r/IncelExit subreddit, as that subreddit tends to be a lot more constructive and is often run by actual ex-incels. This subreddit has a lot of people who don't actually try to understand why men feel the way that the… | /r/ExRedPill | 29/06/24 05:13 AM |
| 1 | If women hate the patriarchy, why do they make conforming to it a requirement for mates?the block function isn't working because Reddit has a feature where you can't block someone again within a 24 hour period after blocking them, and the initial unblock happened due to lag from me spamming the block button on reddit mobile. I then told you I was going to block you, but I miscalculated how much time had passed, so, since I couldn't block you, I decided to just resort to sending you monkey gifs at the recommendation of my girlfriend while I waited for the timer to go down, seeing ho… | /r/ExRedPill | 28/06/24 03:00 PM |
| 2 | If women hate the patriarchy, why do they make conforming to it a requirement for mates?Oh man, if only everyone in the thread could see the DM's you've sent me about this topic. Like, for example, telling me I should get my skull crushed in. That's a normal, healthy, human thing to say, right? | /r/ExRedPill | 28/06/24 01:37 PM |
| 4 | If women hate the patriarchy, why do they make conforming to it a requirement for mates?I'm noticing a common theme from people who get suffocated by these ideologies. They make huge sweeping accusations about how all women think, and then when a bunch of people point out how they don't think this way, the insecure person in question cites pornography or deliberate ragebait content from completely unrelated women as evidence that women as a whole believe in these things. They never talk about what they have experienced or seen in person, for the most part. It's always people like t… | /r/ExRedPill | 28/06/24 01:08 AM |
| 7 | How do you find events to put yourself out there more?I know a lot of people recommend bars, but for me, the majority of people I've met whom I've really bonded with came from going to classes, workshops, or stores relating to my hobbies. Also, Art Communities. Bars really don't mesh well with me, as I don't drink, and am quite introverted. For example, I love nerd stuff, like D&D, retro consoles, etc., and I love going to "Nerd" stores that have those kinds of things. It's a great way to meet new people. There's also classes, or public workshops y… | /r/ExRedPill | 28/06/24 12:54 AM |
| 1 | Where may I find women who do not care about looks/height?This exactly! | /r/ExRedPill | 27/06/24 06:11 PM |
| 1 | I cant get the 80/20 Rule and "Hypergamy" theories out of my mind.The majority of people meeting through dating apps is simply not true. Even the most generous estimates say that 50% of people under 30 have used a dating app once in the past 2 years, and roughly 70% of those are men. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/06/24 12:21 AM |
| 2 | I can’t picture myself in a relationshipInteresting; I see. I know it won't help much since this is rooted in insecurity, but it's important to remember that women are human beings, and they're just as willing to be polite and conversational as you are. Instead of seeing it through a romance lens, try to see women as other human beings. I don't say this as in you don't see women as humans, to clarify; it's just very clear that you see women very differently, and think about and treat them very differently compared to how you would tre… | /r/ExRedPill | 23/03/24 05:56 AM |
| 1 | I can’t picture myself in a relationshipInteresting.. I feel like this may be indicative of a much deeper rooted issue. And I'll try to approach this with as much compassion as I can. While I still am not quite sure what this has to do with redpill ideology, this does show that your self-image is entirely driven by your own insecurities and fears, and are not at all actually based on reality. Which is a good thing; this means that these insecurities are not inherently true, and, since they are a mindset and not a reality, it is someth… | /r/ExRedPill | 23/03/24 05:36 AM |
| 1 | I can’t picture myself in a relationshipIn that regard, what makes you a weirdo/loser/creep? Is there any actual tangible things you do that make you a weirdo/loser/creep, or do you just see yourself as one? | /r/ExRedPill | 23/03/24 05:21 AM |
| 1 | I can’t picture myself in a relationshipWell, that is an entirely different conversation, in which I first must say, I'm really sorry to hear that. Such cripplingly low self-esteem is a horrible thing to have to deal with. Why do you have such a low self-image? | /r/ExRedPill | 22/03/24 10:18 PM |
| 2 | I can’t picture myself in a relationshipNot sure what this has to do with Redpill stuff. Just sounds like you're aromantic. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/03/24 12:21 PM |
| 6 | Can someone explain why red pill guys are successful with dating and hooking up?Well, the thing was, Epstein wasn't good at what he did. His female assistant was the one that hooked him up with chicks, not Epstein himself, and a lot of it was under the guise of a job. Same with what Andrew Tate does. Saying Andrew Tate is good with women because he's good at sex trafficking is a very bizarre comparison. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/03/24 06:42 AM |
| 3 | Can someone explain why red pill guys are successful with dating and hooking up?They say they're successful, but they aren't. That's the point. It's why a lot of stories on here are of relationships that fail because a partner turned to redpill, or people talking about how redpill ideology made it impossible to trust people and establish relationships. It's a bit like asking why Snake Oil Salesmen how their Snake Oil is so good at solving all of their problems. It's really not; it's only the Snake Oil Salesman that is saying that, and it's not really wise to trust their wor… | /r/ExRedPill | 18/03/24 06:38 AM |
| 3 | I feel like I’ll never be someone’s first choiceThis is very much just you being too far inside your own head. This is very much just the result of deep-rooted insecurity and has no basis on reality. It's important to understand that social settings are always extremely complex and that it's very rare for you to be someone's "First choice" solely because of how many people are out there. But if you are in a relationship with someone, it isn't because they just needed a relationship and decided to settle on you. A relationship requires mainten… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/03/24 11:25 PM |
| 4 | How do I get rid of these thoughts?Precisely that! You got this, dude! Things really are gonna be okay, and it's really commendable that you are asking for advice on how to solve these issues at such a young age. Usually a lot of people fall deep into the Incel/Redpill rabbit hole because they start getting into that mindset as an insecure teenager and never got the proper guidance needed in order to get over it. You're not one of those people, and I'm proud of you for it! | /r/ExRedPill | 06/03/24 01:21 AM |
| 6 | How do I get rid of these thoughts?Well .. That's the thing. If it's any consolation, you're a teenager. And teenagers are fuckin' stupid. Both boys and girls. You're going to see a lot of awful things as a teenager, and that is okay. This is the period in life where we are trying to figure out how to be human beings, but once you become an adult and live in the real world outside of school and social media, none of this stuff is gonna matter, and you won't see these kinds of things at all. I don't say this to belittle you, to cl… | /r/ExRedPill | 06/03/24 01:15 AM |
| 9 | How do I get rid of these thoughts?There's a difference between seeing something a lot because it happens a lot and is normal, and seeing something a lot because you are worried about something and are looking for it all the time as a result. We can test this ourselves depending on where you live. Let's think of planes. When you are going about your day and seeing the sky in your peripheral, you don't consciously notice how many planes are up there. But if you were to go outside and sit back and look at the sky and LOOK for it, y… | /r/ExRedPill | 06/03/24 12:56 AM |
| 3 | Why are men who disapprove of Redpill considered feminists?Bluntly, I just don't really care, really. I feel like most men who aren't redpill aren't feminist, or at least don't go out of their way to identify as such. Most of us just, y'know, understand basic empathy. Redpillers tend to use feminism as an insult but it's a pretty meaningless one. They assume it'd be offensive to us, but, it really isn't. It'd only be offensive to them. | /r/ExRedPill | 28/02/24 11:58 PM |
| 2 | Why is it that anti-incel subs make me feel even more black pilled?The issue is that the lifestyle you are desiring isn't a happy or good one. Most people are not into hook-ups, because it's a toxic and damaging lifestyle that doesn't benefit. The people who ARE successful in having that lifestyle, a.k.a that top, like, 1% of people, aren't having sex with every woman they meet. They are having sex with hook-up women that are not good at holding relationships and genuine bonds, resulting in very unsatisfying and awful sex between strangers that leaves both peop… | /r/ExRedPill | 25/02/24 05:28 PM |
| 2 | Do men who call themselves & other men “Kings” & the “prize” Red Pill?"Kings" is just an uplifting thing to say to each other and other guys. That isn't a Redpill thing at all. It's like going "Slay Queen" "Men are the prize", though, I dunno. Never really heard of that phrase at all, even in Redpill circles. If you were to ask me, neither of these two things are really red flags at all on their own. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/02/24 02:11 AM |
| 1 | Explain me this"Why should I want friendship with women? I mean there must be women out there who want casual stuff too. Are they also bad people for wanting sex? Most women have sex with guys they were not friends with, so why should I?" Jesus, there's a lot to unpack here. First, why SHOULDN'T you be friends with women? Women are people, too. You do realize that, right? Did you forget that they're also human beings that engage in hobbies, are passionate about things, enjoy things and think a lot, just like y… | /r/ExRedPill | 22/02/24 01:03 PM |
| 4 | Here’s why it doesn’t make sense to care about a women’s number of sexual partners if you don’t care more about education when looking to avoid divorce:I think context matters. If you're both very young, like, 16-20, and your partner has a very high body count, that's genuinely pretty concerning and it's reasonable to be worried. But as you get older, body counts stop mattering. I feel like the body count concerns for 16-20 year olds happen because they're so young, yet, if they have a high bodycount, they have already had sex with so many people, implying they sleep around and don't really stay very committed, and that's why it's such an influ… | /r/ExRedPill | 22/02/24 12:31 PM |
| 5 | Explain me thisYou are an abusive person. People who have went through lots of abuse tend to seek validation from abusers. This doesn't apply to just women, but men, too. I'm sure you can think of examples of men who still linger about and are unable to get over their exes. When you treat women like "goals" and not fellow human beings, the vast majority of women are uncomfortable with that, and for good reason. They can tell. If you took the advice on this subreddit as simply "Being nice and courteous in order… | /r/ExRedPill | 22/02/24 12:18 PM |
| 1 | What hard proof can I look at that disproves the black pill.There is a lot of things I am noticing here. So I have a lot to say. Pilled Ideology revolves around mindset and not reality. It is a perspective. Since it is a perspective, it causes you to focus on things that validate this perspective, while ignoring or dismissing anything that goes against that perspective. By that I mean, the problem isn't that you haven't seen anything that disproves your perspective, the problem is that you are either ignoring or fighting against anything that disproves y… | /r/ExRedPill | 19/02/24 08:14 PM |
| 2 | Rape and SA are hated more during to most victims being womenI really don't think it's something that happens mostly to women. I think the issue is that people just don't care when it happens to men. Coming from someone who experienced SA multiple times in my life as a man, not once was it ever cared about remotely, and during my school days when it happened while I was younger, it was always investigated as me being the offender, first and foremost. That's also anecdotal, so don't take my word for it. There's this incredibly helpful video that talks abou… | /r/MensRights | 05/02/24 03:31 AM |
| 2 | I am terrified of not being married with kids by the age of 35?I'm confused by why you're asking for advice for this. What kind of answer do you even want? You've pretty much said you don't want to do the thing that you need to do in order to meet new people and develop relationships. What kind of advice do you expect to receive when you are already opting out of doing step 1 of what you need to do in order to do this? I'm an introvert myself but being an introvert doesn't need to stop you from simply interacting with people. | /r/ExRedPill | 24/01/24 02:36 AM |
| 3 | mega thread debunking redpill lies?The pinned thread exists for a reason; the Detox Kit specifically. | /r/ExRedPill | 21/01/24 01:38 AM |
| 2 | I cant get the 80/20 Rule and "Hypergamy" theories out of my mind.Well; I just hope you take what I said very seriously. If I were to give you a serious word of advice, stop looking at things with a "Does this confirm my insecurities?" lens, and, instead, look at things with a "What is this ACTUALLY saying?" lens. If you look at things under the lens of just trying to get reassurance for your insecurities, then it is going to be very easy to twist just about anything into somehow saying your insecurities are true. It's okay to have insecurities but it's not ok… | /r/ExRedPill | 04/01/24 10:34 PM |
| 2 | I cant get the 80/20 Rule and "Hypergamy" theories out of my mind.That's not what the data says. The data does say that, on average, when it comes to a casual sex relationship, women have a modicum of standards while men, on average, don't. To simplify it; it isn't saying that the 80/20 rule is true. It's saying that, on average, statistically, men will not be picky at all about who they have sex with, whereas women aren't as loose as men are, when it comes to casual sex relationships. To put it even more more simply, the statistic is simply debunking that wom… | /r/ExRedPill | 02/01/24 08:18 PM |
| 2 | I cant get the 80/20 Rule and "Hypergamy" theories out of my mind.It doesn't prove Tinder's "80/20 data". I don't even know how you came to that conclusion. Did you just blatantly ignore the studies in that first link? Like, I'm genuinely trying to figure out how you came to that conclusion but I don't understand the leap in logic. Now to finally put the Tinder statistic to bed, the reason why Tinder's statistics are the way that they are is because the vast majority of users on Tinder are men. 75% men iirc. That's a similar statistic on most dating apps. Only… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/01/24 02:45 AM |
| 3 | Shorter guys who are successful?Not only is it a stretch to say 5′ 7″ is "Earth Shattering" since you're still significantly taller than the average woman, but there's countless examples of successful and attractive people who are below average height. Some celebrities, like Tom Cruise, are 5′ 7″, and they're considered one of those Hollywood "hot guys". In terms of "normal" people who are successful while being short.. I don't even know how to provide that kind of information. Successful in what way? There's so many normal pe… | /r/ExRedPill | 27/12/23 07:05 PM |
| 5 | Thinking of ending my relationship because of anxiety caused by redpill beliefsCounter-point; how do you know that there millions who did? Why are you assuming the truth because of what random assholes said on the Internet instead of actually facing reality and seeing how the real world works? | /r/ExRedPill | 23/12/23 03:14 PM |
| 3 | Thinking of ending my relationship because of anxiety caused by redpill beliefsI think you missed the point of what they were saying. This behavior IS a narcissistic trait. The fact that narcissism is so rare proves that you're going to be far more unlikely to find it than you would be to find it. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/12/23 03:10 PM |
| 1 | I cant get the 80/20 Rule and "Hypergamy" theories out of my mind.This all goes back to what I said earlier about how quick hook-ups and quick dating apps aren't accurate perceptions of how the whole world works. Obviously for quick hook-ups people are going to prioritize looks because that's kinda the whole point of a hook-up, because actually getting to know the person you're having a hook-up with isn't a priority. Both men and women do this. This isn't really a point of contention. Pretending like this kind of thing is a universal rule however is just bad l… | /r/ExRedPill | 20/12/23 02:52 PM |
| 2 | How can one break away from this view of the world when it's been their exact reality?I don't really think this is something that would have a research study because it's a very artificial thing that doesn't actually determine anything, which is why it's mostly just survey articles instead. It's good to be skeptical of survey articles, but don't try to use your insecurities as a basis of dismissing reality and honest self reflection. | /r/ExRedPill | 19/12/23 09:36 PM |
| 1 | How can one break away from this view of the world when it's been their exact reality?Not only do people tend to not find bald people unattractive, but there's also lots of studies coming out about what kind of appealing factors come from being bald. While these studies may be helpful to you, it's important to remember that "looksmaxing" is not what is going to get you into relationships 'nor is it going to be what makes you come off as attractive. All of these studies also showcase that personality always was more important than whether the person was bald or not, and even the w… | /r/ExRedPill | 19/12/23 08:31 PM |
| 2 | How can one break away from this view of the world when it's been their exact reality?I don't know why you try to paint this as if it's a win in girl's books. You're literally trying to act like women being taken advantage of for their looks is a positive aspect of being a woman, which is really, really deranged thinking. | /r/ExRedPill | 19/12/23 04:47 PM |
| 1 | How can one break away from this view of the world when it's been their exact reality?I feel like a lot of this is based around being envious of other people's natural gifts, and also not genuinely listening to why people say the things that they do. You list your physical appearance as the reason why you're held back, yet I can guarantee that people far uglier than you have established relationships before. "Intimidating" and "gross" don't even directly correlate with looks, either. People can tell when you think about stuff like this because it changes your demeanor and how you… | /r/ExRedPill | 19/12/23 04:44 PM |
| 1 | I cant get the 80/20 Rule and "Hypergamy" theories out of my mind.Something I want to ask is, how exactly are we in uncharted territory at the moment? Courtship and establishing relationships has been a thing since the very origins of humanity. You're also objectively wrong about women having an emphasis on physical attraction for looks; it's established that men actually are more picky about looks than women, and there's so many studies that prove this that it's hard to pick just one to cite. I also just feel like that second paragraph is a total wash. Anecdo… | /r/ExRedPill | 19/12/23 04:32 PM |
| 2 | I cant get the 80/20 Rule and "Hypergamy" theories out of my mind.This isn't really relevant. Hookup culture isn't exactly healthy in general so I would advise against it, but this post is about paranoia and the difficulty of establishing trust in others because of an app specifically predisposed to hookups. It's important to preface that those percentages are not real, tangible, measurable things. The whole 80/20 thing was basically completely made up by Red Pill Ideology. The only person assuming there was a percentage change was the person responding to me,… | /r/ExRedPill | 14/12/23 04:50 PM |
| 14 | I cant get the 80/20 Rule and "Hypergamy" theories out of my mind.Okay, to start, Tinder is primarily about quick hook-ups, and it isn't intended to be used for actually establishing meaningful and long-lasting deep relationships. That's like saying that a majority of people are alcoholics because of the statistics of people drinking at a bar that serves free alcohol; that's a very deliberate and easy way to manipulate you into believing in some very outlandish things. This is a meaningless statement that can easily be dismissed. It's also self-evident; if you… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/12/23 10:04 AM |
| 12 | I cant get the 80/20 Rule and "Hypergamy" theories out of my mind.I believe in you, man. There's a lot of struggling people out there who feel horrible about the situation that they're in and I'm sure that with enough time and patience you'll come out of this chapter of your life a much more secure and confident person! I recommend looking into resources about how to combat against delusional or irrational thoughts, as well. These kinds of things apply not just to Redpill Ideology, but mental health issues in general. You're a lot stronger than you realize and… | /r/ExRedPill | 30/11/23 09:32 PM |
| 51 | I cant get the 80/20 Rule and "Hypergamy" theories out of my mind.I want to preface this with saying that everything I am going to say here is with love and compassion. Some of it might be really difficult to hear, but it's important for you to listen to and understand in order for you to start making progress. Redpill Ideology, as a whole, preys on insecure people, and they feed into those insecurities by spreading misinformation and myths in order to maintain those insecurities. This results in those people, who have had those insecurities validated by that … | /r/ExRedPill | 30/11/23 08:35 PM |
| 8 | Showing emotion in front of womenWhat causes you to struggle with it? Are you good at expressing your emotions to anyone else in general? If so, what makes it different for you with women? | /r/ExRedPill | 12/11/23 08:00 AM |
| 1 | what is a hoe?This thread is embarrassing lmao | /r/ExRedPill | 11/11/23 12:39 PM |
| 8 | Do women really have more options in dating then men and do they really start planning to be with a different guy weeks before the breakup?Then that answers your question. Is it really hard to understand that if it would be rude if they said it to you, it would be rude for you to say it to them, too? | /r/ExRedPill | 10/11/23 05:30 AM |
| 2 | Do men have friendships with women ?I have multiple friends of women who are into sex work. I don't know what point you're trying to make, here, but, I will just say this, because I did the thing of actually talking to women. A lot of women who are into this line of work appreciate doing it because it's an easy, low effort job. A lot of them don't need to actually have sex with men at all, or have sex with multiple men. Most of them have sex with their partners. They take advantage of the fact that horny men will pay for that. It'… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/11/23 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Do men have friendships with women ?There's quite a lot of women that I'm friends with. I don't treat them any differently from my male friends and it goes just fine. I also have a girlfriend and have been a relationship with them for 7 years, now. We also are in groups that have both men and women in them, with various members of that group being single, taken, etc.; none of that really matters. It has nothing to do with sex drive, attraction, etc., it's just about interacting with them as people. Since, well, they ARE people. Ju… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/11/23 12:35 AM |
| 3 | Insecurity that partner might leave for someone "bigger"Something that's important to remember is that these delusions are spread by other men, not women. I can guarantee you that these are delusions and that once you start actually interacting with women and establishing authentic relationships with them you'll find out how dumb and silly all this redpill stuff really is. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/10/23 08:15 AM |
| 7 | Olivia Fane: Intimacy is seriously unsexy.I know I'm not the same guy, but I do remember talking to you before and mentioning you likely are Aromantic, since I got tagged in this. Asexual and Aromantic are not the same. Besides that, you can be Asexual and still have a libido and watch porn, for example, it's just that you don't feel sexual attraction towards others, and Aromantics can still be in relationships or consume media that has romance in it. They just don't feel romantic feelings towards others. They're both moreso about lifes… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/10/23 12:56 PM |
| 6 | Olivia Fane: Intimacy is seriously unsexy.I've been happily in a relationship with my significant other for 7 years and our relationship is so wonderful because we not only willingly got together due to a mutual attraction but maintained that attraction throughout our relationship, still having a very loving and passionate relationship with lots of intimacy to this very day. There's absolutely 0 evidence that intimacy and connection are "unsexy". Instead, Intimacy and Connection often leads TO sexual desires and long-lasting relationshi… | /r/ExRedPill | 02/10/23 05:40 PM |
| 17 | Was I wrong all alongI won't necessarily tell you if you're wrong or not, I'll just ask a few simple questions based on each statement you've made and ask you to come to your own conclusions. Redpill Ideology preys on vulnerable people, and as a result, it requires some tender care and reality checks to get out of it. Only 14.5% of men in the US are 6 feet tall or over. That means that 86% of the male population is completely cut out of the dating pool if this was true. That's the vast majority of the population, ho… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/09/23 12:15 AM |
| 22 | Giving unconditional love = setting yourself up for failure?It's important to remember that unconditional love is different from being a good partner. Blind unconditional love for anyone you date is bad, but being a wonderful partner has nothing to do with unconditional love. After that, unconditional love is usually earned through a healthy mutual relationship between two partners that build that relationship together. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/09/23 04:43 AM |
| 17 | How to exit redpill when I had to learn about biological human attractiveness at uni?Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In general there is a huge difference between preference and reality and there is extensive research out there showcasing that physical appearances aren't the predominant factor when it comes to longstanding healthy relationships. It's personality. I know it sounds cliché to hear, but if all you look for is cute couples, it's all you're gonna get. Think of not just your age, but other ages, too; old couples, ghetto couples, your parents, etc.; there's a lot … | /r/ExRedPill | 10/09/23 01:21 PM |
| 6 | [SERIOUS] Do you think understanding is the enemy?You make a good point. I was so focused on combating against the idea of women being superficial robots that have very one-track minds that I didn't establish how they really aren't very different from men. I did make sure to point out that the mentality was hypocrisy by pointing out how believing in Redpill Ideology ironically makes them become the things they claim women are, but you've elaborated on it quite well! | /r/ExRedPill | 06/09/23 01:06 PM |
| 6 | [SERIOUS] Do you think understanding is the enemy?I made the assumption based on the fact that you are arguing that Redpill Ideology is valid. I wouldn't judge you or your family based off of their appearance, because I am not that kind of person, 'nor do I know how you or your family looks. However, since you are talking from the perspective that you yourself aren't part of that mythical 1%, I simply assumed you considered yourself average/below average, which, in-turn, means that your parents would also be that way. I was saying that in relat… | /r/ExRedPill | 06/09/23 12:51 PM |
| 16 | [SERIOUS] Do you think understanding is the enemy?This is a pointless hypothetical, and reality is much more complicated than this. To explain more thoroughly, this kind of hypothetical is a comparison that would only be relevant in one of those toxic dating shows, where the well suited kempt man and the messier man are put next to each other, and an array of women are all there as contestants, deciding who they will date out of the two men. Funnily enough, those kinds of dating shows never have relationships in them that last. That's because r… | /r/ExRedPill | 06/09/23 10:18 AM |
| 36 | [SERIOUS] Do you think understanding is the enemy?If you fall for redpill ideology, it means you have a flawed understanding of reality. Rational minds don't lead people to redpill ideology, irrational minds do. Totally nonsensical post. | /r/ExRedPill | 06/09/23 07:14 AM |
| 3 | Getting a relationship made me more redpilledShe is unbelievably toxic and you unfortunately committed to a relationship you really shouldn't have committed yourself to. | /r/ExRedPill | 31/08/23 08:14 AM |
| 3 | How did the red pill effect your life negatively? How has it gotten better since you’ve left?I'm so sorry. I'm sure you're a lovely person and you really don't need men who objectify you in order to figure that out | /r/ExRedPill | 30/08/23 08:11 PM |
| 2 | How did the red pill effect your life negatively? How has it gotten better since you’ve left?My point was that these "statistics" aren't accurate representations of reality and shouldn't be treated as rules to go by. Polarity could also mean anything, but the general saying "opposites attract" isn't really true. | /r/ExRedPill | 30/08/23 08:10 PM |
| 3 | What do men want from women?No, it wouldn't. There's a level of trust and intimacy with a partner that you wouldn't have with a friendship, and that trust/intimacy develops naturally. The feelings you have for someone you are in a relationship with also aren't the feelings you would have for your friends. There's sexless relationships that exist, too, so sex isn't necessarily a contributing factor depending on who it is; arbitrarily cutting out sex wouldn't really change what's happening in terms of emotions two people hav… | /r/ExRedPill | 30/08/23 11:35 AM |
| 6 | How did the red pill effect your life negatively? How has it gotten better since you’ve left?It's interesting seeing women fall into this; I never expected women to get into it. Would you say that you're recovering a lot and feeling better with yourself, now? | /r/ExRedPill | 30/08/23 10:58 AM |
| 11 | How did the red pill effect your life negatively? How has it gotten better since you’ve left?Just like any other form of organization manipulation, selectively choosing statistics is intentionally done to mislead people into false perceptions of reality. Here's a simple common redpill paradox; the belief that women only want to be with the top 1% of men. Statistically, you could find a study that shows how women potentially prefer big hulking behemoth men with tons of money. Yet, go outside, and, amazingly, you'll find that there's tons of men and women who aren't that top 1% who are in… | /r/ExRedPill | 30/08/23 10:55 AM |
| 3 | What do men want from women?The thing you aren't understanding is that I didn't have a passive need to bond. I wasn't sitting around needing to bond with people. Matter of fact, I'm very introverted, prefer to be alone, and have very small social circles. I simply like it that way. The reason why I developed such a bond with my partner was because it was a natural evolution of the relationship that I had with her. At no point was it a situation where we felt something was missing or that a transaction needed to happen; we … | /r/ExRedPill | 30/08/23 10:37 AM |
| 5 | What do men want from women?Seeing relationships as purely logical and transactional I feel is missing the point of what a romantic relationship isn't is. A relationship isn't an objective thing that you do in order to satiate some objective set of desires, and if you go into a relationship just to satiate some objective thing you are craving, then once you start satiating those cravings, you will find yourself in an unbelievably hollow relationship. This is why getting into a relationship for needs based reasons, i.e. "I'… | /r/ExRedPill | 29/08/23 06:28 AM |
| 2 | Should shorter guys try dating in different countries?That's of the assumption that beauty standards are actually as strict as redpill says they are. Here's a hint; they're called "unrealistic beauty expectations" for a reason. | /r/ExRedPill | 21/08/23 03:54 AM |
| 18 | Would you marry a bisexual girl?Just because she is bisexual doesn't mean she suddenly is more likely to be a whore. That is 100% redpill talking. It's really not fair to discriminate against her over something as mundane as a sexuality. I've been in a relationship with a bisexual person for 7 years now and it has gone just fine. | /r/ExRedPill | 08/08/23 03:14 AM |
| 1 | My Experience With the Red Pilliirc it actually never talks about cheating on your gf but instead doing whatever you can to make your gf feel like she is not important and could easily be replaced. Cheating would defeat the purpose because by redpill that would make the woman stop trying since you've now officially chosen someone else | /r/ExRedPill | 05/08/23 04:56 PM |
| 3 | Genuine questionWhat he was saying, explicitly, was that he doesn't understand why he should work on treating other people properly, asking why he shouldn't, cheat, lie, or manipulate women, if working out made him receive more attention. He is trying to argue that it is a reason or excuse to mistreat women, attempting to label "working on yourself" as a bad thing. The issue with it is that, if his personality didn't change, then that means he was always manipulating, lying to, or mistreating women, or that his… | /r/ExRedPill | 24/07/23 08:28 AM |
| 5 | Genuine questionThe assumption was made because he was bitter about women not noticing him until he worked out. If he didn't care about the validation of others then he wouldn't have noticed that. It's not that complicated, really. EDIT: He was also literally trying to criticize the advice of "working on yourself" and treated it as if working on yourself was bad advice because of this. Like.. He kinda did explicitly say it. | /r/ExRedPill | 24/07/23 06:19 AM |
| 11 | Genuine questionI think you missed the point. The point of "working on yourself" means to take care of yourself and make yourself presentable and happy without doing it to impress others or get validation from a relationship. Now that you have started taking care of yourself people are starting to notice that, but since your personality hasn't changed, then if you manage to get into a relationship, your relationship is going to be very shallow and unhappy because it's clear you did these things for validation i… | /r/ExRedPill | 22/07/23 04:26 AM |
| 6 | Dating hack for menDo a lot of women seek out objectification? Or are those the only kinds of women you pay attention to? There is a big difference. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/07/23 03:03 AM |
| 4 | Dating hack for menThe point of the advice is to make sure you don't objectify women and treat them like property. At a bare minimum, if you treat women like people, and not as challenges that need to be conquered, if you don't objectify women and you treat them with respect and care, you will become far more attractive to a lot of people, especially women. Women will notice if you're an insecure person who feels bitterness or disdain towards them and that's why it's so important to not feel prejudiced and not mak… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/07/23 03:02 AM |
| 2 | Can men and women be friends?That's very true. Just be yourself and don't focus on how to manipulate others, because people aren't stupid, and even if you successfully manipulate someone, since manipulation was a required part of the equation, the relationship will never be genuine. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/07/23 04:07 AM |
| 6 | Can men and women be friends?The reason why those businesses are relatively successful is because there's a lot of insecure young people who think that being successful with women is an important part of being happy. Little do they know, they are unsuccessful with women BECAUSE of those gurus and the fact that they treat women as if they are entirely different creatures whom require exhaustive strategies to be with them, but they keep funding them in order to hope that one day the code will be cracked. There's a reason why … | /r/ExRedPill | 14/07/23 03:15 AM |
| 2 | Can men and women be friends?Absolutely! I'm in a lot of platonic relationships with all sorts of people of different genders. We all have our own relationships and bonds and everything, many of them are either single or otherwise. We also have people of many sexualities, so there are gay, lesbian, bi, etc. people in the circle I am in. It's just called being normal. If there are feelings that get developed between people, as long as they respect boundaries then it's okay. My girlfriend of 7 years, who is bi, is part of thi… | /r/ExRedPill | 14/07/23 03:10 AM |
| 1 | The red pill ideology just makes relationships so much more complicatedI feel like the thing with previous generations that was an issue was how rapidly they would get married, compared to generations now. A lot of people in older generations tended to get married immediately after they got out of High School, sometimes DURING High School, and at that point they were still just kids, yet they decided to have a lifelong commitment with someone who is just as immature and childish as they are, still has a lot of room to grow, and they had only known for a few years. … | /r/ExRedPill | 05/07/23 02:08 AM |
| 3 | The red pill ideology just makes relationships so much more complicatedI'm scrolling through the RPW subreddit right now and pretty much all of them have relationships that last months, with a huge number of them turning to RPW due to being heavily insecure and seeking out the most effective strategies of receiving the validation of men. It's not a stretch to understand why women would want to advocate a belief system that insists women nature lots of favor over men considering Red Pill ideology literally inherently implies that women have a lot of control over thi… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/07/23 07:52 PM |
| 7 | The red pill ideology just makes relationships so much more complicatedThere is a difference between traditional relationships and redpill ideology. Redpill ideology is about subservience, obedience, abuse, treating women like property, and manipulation in order to control, which results in an unhappy abusive relationship. If redpill ideology was about establishing a traditional family with a wife and kids with mutual love and respect, it wouldn't be controversial. | /r/ExRedPill | 01/07/23 03:44 PM |
| 11 | The red pill ideology just makes relationships so much more complicatedRed Pill ideology is easily the worst possible ideology to have if you want to have a nice sustainable relationship that is healthy and happy for both partners. At best, it's marginally decent at MAYBE getting you laid after trying it on hundreds of women with low standards. The only time I ever heard a success story was one post on this Subreddit where they credited healthy traits in their relationship to things that had nothing to do with Red Pill ideology. It was so strange. It feels like Red… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/07/23 05:47 AM |
| 13 | I don't think I've heard a single positive thing...It's one thing to identify issues within a community, but inflating that as being a universal rule that applies to all women is very derogatory and creates an unrealistic image of how women are. | /r/ExRedPill | 30/06/23 04:58 AM |
| 8 | Posting on a throwawaySaying that most people are experienced in hookup culture or that it is a thing is just not true, that's a Redpill Conspiracy so that they can trick you into buying into their cult. On that note, I'm only 23 and haven't met many hookup artists at all. Even then, the most successful ones tend to have to do thousands of attempts before making a successful hookup. It just isn't worth it. There's far more to life than getting your dick wet and there's genuinely no point in worrying about it, because… | /r/ExRedPill | 28/06/23 04:01 AM |
| 1 | IAmA recently redpilled, is there more?You are ex-redpill, though. Everything you credit to helping you be successful as redpill techniques isn't actually redpill techniques, as I thoroughly explained, and I sent you tons of links to address various redpill fallacies and claims, including some of the claims you made. I'm not necessarily bitter, just very disappointed; it feels like you're trying to justify redpill ideology by twisting narratives and crediting redpill ideology for things that have nothing to do with redpill ideology, … | /r/ExRedPill | 10/06/23 01:37 PM |
| 1 | IAmA recently redpilled, is there more?Admittedly, I didn't go through much trial and error. I'm 23 years old right now, and although I have had quite a bit of success with women, I never tried min/maxing anything, or even fretting about being in a relationship. I always focused on being genuine and authentic, without focusing so much about what the best strategies to impress women were, because every single human being is unique and individual; my genuine nature and the fact I didn't treat women as foreign or like challenges to over… | /r/ExRedPill | 09/06/23 05:26 PM |
| 1 | IAmA recently redpilled, is there more?I'm not really interested in calling, no. Especially since this is a debate on a public forum; going through this board means that we can properly cite our information and be much more thorough about our opinions. It also makes the conversation much more legible, since calls often result in talking over each other, so restricting it to strict responses back and forth is good for everyone as well as us. Also, if we called, any conversations on this topic would only be heard between us if we were … | /r/ExRedPill | 08/06/23 05:53 PM |
| 2 | I am slowly working my way out of redpill ideologies, but I still struggle with this aspectThis is an issue of trust and insecurity. Cheaters will cheat regardless of what sexual orientation that they are. If your partner is bisexual, should you just not allow them to have any friends at all? If you aren't going to cheat on your significant other with another woman, then it isn't rocket science to assume that your partner is capable of showing the same level of commitment. As a matter of fact, Men are statistically more likely to cheat than women are: https://discreetinvestigations.ca… | /r/ExRedPill | 04/06/23 06:36 AM |
| 1 | IAmA recently redpilled, is there more?Wow, there's a lot to unpack here. First, you say both partners should be able to be dependent on each other and support each other, and that a relationship that benefits both partners is good, and that IS a good thing, but it isn't a Redpilled belief at all. That's an important step to a healthy relationship. Yet you turned that into something that it isn't; you literally self admit to taking advantage of emotionally vulnerable women, and, in that same sentence, admit you are also dependent on … | /r/ExRedPill | 04/06/23 05:18 AM |
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