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Isn't gross to receive money from men you would never help in any way whatsoever?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 02:32 PM
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And so do we otherwise we're disparaging women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 11:49 PM
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Agreed. But using that logic the women should also get over it when men use disparaging language.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 11:48 PM
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That's the fucking point. You don't like them using that language, why should we like women using similar language about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:06 PM
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The point is, you don't like men using disparaging language against women, and what you don't seem to grasp is that we don't like women using disparaging language against us.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:05 PM
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If men spoke about their experiences and used terms like worthless whore to describe women who hurt and abused them you wouldn't like it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:18 PM
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They can be shallow and superficial, but no woman types like this. This is not the speech pattern of a woman, especially not a young one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 02:32 PM
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You're not supposed to have kids "for the benefit" wtf. You're supposed to have kids if you want a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 05:03 PM
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I'm using the literal meaning of manipulate here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 02:47 PM
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I mean you can manipulate weight... just not in the time frame between arranging a date and going on the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 02:32 PM
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Women aren't nearly as "heightist" irl as they are online. Men are equally unattracted to fat women online and irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 02:03 PM
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Morality aside, the lying might work for the men, it won't work for the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 01:13 PM
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Disregard anything that OP says she made a post titled "Average men should not procreate". Anything she says is null and void.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:51 PM
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I mean if they're not successful it's obviously because they're not good enough
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 01:58 AM
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You can engage in your hobbies without considering the needs/demands and schedule of a partner. You can eat out without someone playing a dumb little game of knowing where they want to eat but not telling you and shooting down every single suggestion you make because they want you to "find" the "correct" answer. You can go out without waiting for someone to get ready for upwards of an hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:55 PM
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Because they're vicious or because they're good stalkers?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:57 AM
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It's not that simple. "Would" is only theoretical, he can see himself having sex with her, he will NEVER make a move, unless directly offered sex, it is never happening. "Want" means he will pursue her, he will put effort into it, it's a realistic option.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 04:52 AM
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Oh idk the last few Dave Chappelle specials come to mind, the new Ricky Gervais one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:59 PM
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Have you considered the possibility that you could... misinterpret something someone said? Take something the wrong way? That something isn't as big a deal as you make it out to be? That you're offended on behalf of other people despite them not seeing an issue with a particular statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:50 PM
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You fail to recognize that what I'm saying is that what constitutes offense is not universally agreed upon, hence calling anything that offends you bigotry is ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:08 PM
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You do realize that there are plenty of people who are overly sensitive and think that non bigoted statements are somehow bigoted, because they think their arbitrary standard of what is offensive should be the standard for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:16 PM
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he will do or say something offensive So... anything then, because women could be offended by literally anything
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:50 PM
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Well it's kind of an important factor. I don't think one can reasonably call themselves an empathetic human being when that empathy only extends to one's ingroup, whatever that group may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 07:32 PM
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You're missing the fucking point. When a man talks about his problems women pull the "women do all of the emotional labor" card, but when a woman talks about her problems him listen somehow doesn't constitute emotional labor. The hypocrisy is what everyone is trying to point out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 05:18 PM
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Studies show they are. Seemingly not towards men according to basically everyone's experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 05:12 PM
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Yes but that comment is clearly implying that the attention is one sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:20 PM
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Has it occurred to you that they had intended for you to be a friend and then caught feelings? Why did you just assume malice immediately?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:19 PM
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You're falsely attributing malice. You can be friends with someone and after a while realize that you see them as more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:14 PM
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Imagine being on the receiving end of "I don't like you like that..." when you have not said anything about your potential interest. Imagine businesses just mailing you rejection letters even though you never applied lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:12 PM
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Is she supposed to read his mind Isn't that what women keep expecting from men lol? But that's besides the point. Yeah in the case of him being too pussy to tell her it's obviously on him but there are the cases of the guy confessing and the girl rejecting him but still wanting to keep him in her life. In those cases there's a clear power imbalance in the "friendship" and if she actually cared about him she'd end it... or help him get laid with someone else lol, I mean friends help friends right…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:10 PM
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So should women. How would they survive without work if they don't have a family?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 02:10 AM
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Is your argument that women don't have to feed themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 02:06 AM
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Yeah, and?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 01:39 AM
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You think women don't contribute to society? They do, but they are VASTLY underrepresented in the industries that are necessary to make society run. Electricity, plumbing, construction, logistics, without those society can't function. Even agriculture is mostly male. Women mostly choose tertiary or quaternary sector positions, important but not possible without the primary and secondary sectors of the economy, which make the world run. Technology has rendered physical strength useless in most in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 07:20 PM
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No, you implied that she said, that only women exploit men, which is not what she said. She said women exploit men, not that ONLY women exploit men and men never exploit women. There's a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:38 AM
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Then why did you phrase it in a way that makes women seem benevolent?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:36 AM
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That's literally not what she said, why do you have to willfully misinterpret things?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:33 AM
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Why won’t women admit that looks matter? Because women see looks as a touchy subject that they would prefer avoiding. Real answer: Because they don't wanna admit that they're just as bad as the men they shame for being shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:31 AM
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It never made sense to me either. Even if someone were to argue women find bugs more gross then men find them(I mean fair enough who am I to tell someone what they're supposed to find gross and what not to), shouldn't that mean that they'd be more eager to crush them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:53 PM
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Seems women really are more 'lookist' than men. I honestly think that women have lower standards(for appearance) then men, but because they're so dependent on their friends approval they will let their friends convince them that a guy they thought was perfectly fine is suddenly beneath her/ not good enough. Hot take: 90% of few month old relationships fail not because the woman or man did something but because the woman's friends convinced the woman that the man isn't good enough for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:07 PM
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Can someone point out what I'm missing? You're missing the point of my response to the comment. That always has to do with her behavior And I pointed out an example I've seen where it's purely about her looks not being good enough for him. Me saying "that always has to do with her behavior" is in reference to the terms(whipped, cucked, etc.) used by the original comment. Those terms are ONLY used when the criticism is behavior related. Men do criticize appearance BUT NOT using THOSE terms. I mad…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:00 PM
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I never said that didn't happen. You could read my other comment but what I mean is that the terms "pussy whipped" or "cucked" are not appearance related. If a dude drags another dude for dating an ugly or fat girl those are not the terms he would use. "Pussy whipped" or "cucked" are behavior related not appearance related.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:36 PM
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I honestly thought reading was a requirement for reddit but I guess I was wrong lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:33 PM
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S L O W L Y read my reply to your comment again.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:33 PM
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That's not the point I was making. Learn to read. What I said was that a man being called pussy whipped or cucked is not a criticism of his partner's appearance, it's a criticism of his partner's behavior. I never said men don't get criticized for their partner's appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:48 PM
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Dude there are places between monk and chad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:44 PM
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I don't think this plays much of a role after age 16. Sure maybe in the 80s/90s... the current generation is woefully immature and acts like this well into their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:20 PM
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That always has to do with her behavior, not with her not being good enough. You're either being stupid or completely dishonest if you think the two phenomena are comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:17 PM
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male-style validation AKA compliments about your competence/skill/achievement and not compliments about your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:14 PM
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So, lonliness actually means sex/romanceless No, it's just that both of these things are often present when people who experience them talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:11 PM
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A compliment's value will always depend on who gives it. A straight woman complimenting a guy will ALWAYS mean more to him than if the exact same compliment came from one of his male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:09 PM
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Says society... at least that's how it's perceived by most people. It's possible women care just as much, but they're certainly not as vocal about it, and if that's the case that's on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 02:03 AM
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Why do men get a pass? Because women care less about that. There are many women that do, but not as many women as men. If you wanna attract women you adhere to women's standards, which usually don't include low N count. If you wanna attract men you adhere to men's standards, which more often than not include a preference for low N count. It's simple. Men and women care about many similar things but not the exact same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 01:52 AM
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I mean sure but that's like blaming the drug addict and not the dealer. The dealers are scum too, not just the junkie.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 01:29 AM
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She thinks men OWE women effort(said efforts satisfies their egos). You can't convince her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 01:20 AM
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It just depends on the standard. Some standards are more gender specific because men and women don't look for the exact same things in a partner. Basically every woman says "I want a guy that's funny/can make me laugh", and not all of them are funny, doesn't mean those unfunny women are assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 01:11 AM
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So how about we work towards funding schools in poorer districts? The American way of funding schools is fucked. Schools should receive funding based on how many students there are. Boom, equality(not equity). No more property tax BS, I mean that just invites inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:59 PM
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Why are you grouping them all into one? And why are you acting like the revenge would be justified?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:55 PM
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But equal opportunity helps to further equity? It can, but doesn't guarantee anything, some people will always be lazy, less ambitious (that's okay we don't all need the same goals), less skilled (that's not always something we can fix), less intelligent (not exactly their fault), less motivated, whatever it may be, we can't ensure success for everybody. Equity in schooling for instance, will always cause standards to be lowered (because it's easier to let everyone even the dumb kids pass, than …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:38 PM
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I want there to be equity for children. Fuck equity. Equal opportunity is great, but we cannot ensure equity (equal outcome) since people are fundamentally different (we're not blank slates), nor should we want it since we need people of different skillsets, temperaments, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:21 PM
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Preferring YOUR OWN CHILDREN to strangers isn't selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:06 PM
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give power to those who previously didn’t And how do you avoid... revenge fantasies? Because let's not pretend like nobody has them. There are obviously people who don't want equality, but instead want revenge. And they're blending in with all the benevolent people who just want equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:02 PM
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The world is not on one linear trajectory. Different aspects of the world change, but in different directions, you say the world is more progressive today, sure... which you would probably classify as "left wing", but we're only more progressive in a social sense... in an economic sense we're now more consumerist than in the 50s... I don't think anyone would classify that as "left wing"... so did we become more right wing and more left wing? No, the different aspects of the world just change in …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:00 PM
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Exactly... the saying doesn't go "you get more right wing the older you are" it's "you get more conservative the older you are". But alas, dumbasses will always boil politics down to two sides forgetting all nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:55 PM
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Exactly, the reaction of the victim shouldn't determine the punishment, the action should determine the punishment. If person A and person B get murdered and person B's family cries more at the funeral, then the murderer of person B shouldn't just receive a longer sentence, it's fucking stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 07:06 PM
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I mean there are literally exceptions in the laws of a lot places for those cases where one of the people is younger than the age of consent but they're only x years apart so it's okay. But my point was that you can't just make the blanket statement that someone that likes someone under the age of consent is a pedophile because (and I think we can all agree with this) there is no such thing as a "temporary pedophile". What we can disagree on is the exact gap that should be allowed, some think it…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:24 PM
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So then an 17 year old dating a 16 year old will be a pedophile next year and magically not a pedophile the year after that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:14 PM
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Dudes that have little don't want the little that they do have to be taken from them by some greedy whore who has even less. That seems pretty reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:35 PM
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When it comes to celebrities, you still have 50 billion left. So? They earned that, just cause you got knocked up by a celebrity it doesn't entitle you to a lavish lifestyle. Lets be honest, men just dont want her to spend money on herself out of spite It might be spiteful but it's still not as bad as the women trying to lessen the time their children have with their fathers, which is obviously out of spite and not for the child's best. try to baby trap her Right because it's not like women do t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:34 PM
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They're the type of moms that think their kid's stuff is their stuff, their kid's money is their money, their kid's good grades are a representation of their success. These people have failed at life and are using their kid as some sort of fucking Sims game simulation to live out their failed dreams, dudes do this too but differently, you know the classic failed sports career so you force your son to do the sport you liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:23 PM
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I completely agree Most women don't(or they say they do to look like good people). They think it is their right to use rich men as a get out of poverty card, just because they have a child together. Which is why I made the point about receipts. So if some low income woman has a kid with a high income guy and the courts determine that he has to pay 5k (not an unrealistic amount like most examples given in the comments talking about billionaires and shit), the woman would have to prove with the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:21 PM
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NOT their gold digging baby mamas. Notice how every woman has ignored this vital point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 02:42 PM
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Women want the money for someone else, their child. Oh yeah because every single cent of that paycheck goes to the child, right? Women NEVER spend any of that money on themselves, NEEEEEVER, that never happens, especially not when the paycheck is super large.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 02:41 PM
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obvious gold-diggers Most of them will hide their intentions, have you heard of lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 02:35 PM
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Most of these men are not using condoms. If a guy won't use a condom with you then... don't fuck him. Pretty simple really.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 02:33 PM
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It sounds like she just wants women to have access to men's wealth. That's all it is. Sure an expensive child in an expensive school would use idk 5k a month but the rich guy should still pay 100k because "tHe WoMaN dEsErVeS iT".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 02:32 PM
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Sorry gents, but you should pay child support for the life you helped create. Yeah but not a single fucking penny of that should go towards the woman. Anything she purchases for the child should be confirmed through receipts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 02:28 PM
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They're interrelated. Of course, but whenever a system is blamed as opposed to the people, you're letting people off the hook. People are never gonna change if you even blame the system a little bit. If you blame the system even a little bit they will insist that the system change first, and only then will they put in even a shred of effort, but because it's a difficult thing to change entire systems it's a convenient excuse for them to do nothing/change nothing about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:14 PM
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I’d still not call America trend setters. I mean not for everything but anything in the entertainment field meaning internet/gaming/music/movies and to an extent technology. The majority of the western world looks at America and is pretty appalled with how it is run. That's only because besides their own countries, most people only know about America and maybe a handful of other countries when it comes to politics. I only know about my own country, Germany, France, and the anglosphere with the e…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:37 PM
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America isn’t more culturally more advanced That's why I said it's not an ideal term. But the entire first world follows their celebrities, we watch their movies, we listen to their music, you get what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:53 PM
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These guys are just whining and blaming women for their own perceived failures. Right, because women never whine or blame others, that never happens. Oh they do? But it's okay when they do it right? Yes, because when they do it you can nod along and hope you'll get a crumb of pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:43 AM
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I think being a whiny victim is tedious and aggravating. Oh is it? Because whenever women are being whiny victims you'll never see a woman call her out on it. Never.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:39 AM
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I think the problem is America It's not an America problem, America is just culturally more advanced in a sense, not more advanced but in a way they are the cultural trendsetter since they do the most exporting of their own culture. The UK also has an obesity problem, let's not pretend that a 25% obesity rate is super amazing, sure it's better than America's but it's still fucking horrendous. I’ve been to America a few times and I was literally shocked when I realised you had drive through every…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:34 AM
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I hope more men step up to the plate and can reverse this downward trend of degeneracy So it's all up to us huh? Aren't women super amazing and just as good as men at everything? Why can't they save the 1st world from going to shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:27 AM
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I might have fucked up then with the time stamp then, sorry. But she isn't the only one with that wrong attitude. The one girl who rated her a 5... felt bad about it. As if 5 is some sort of low rating. I think a lot of people are stuck in the fucking school mindset of 50% is failing so they think being rated a 5 is some sort of heinous insult, in addition to the whole "you can never be honest with fat women" attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 11:18 PM
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The obese woman considers a 5 a LOW rating for her, that's insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 11:09 PM
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8:40 I would link the original but it's private https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWTa_h7Ti7A&t=2s
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:42 PM
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When I say a woman is looking great I can understand saying that, "you look great"... but why do some women take it so far that they use words like "gorgeous" and "beautiful"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:32 PM
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Yeah there are guys like that, they're not numerous tho and you can just...not fuck them, simple. It's not like these men know magic words to make women fuck them. Women decide to fuck these men. It doesn't just happen. There's always a decision involved... and BOTH the man and the woman are responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 05:25 PM
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told me I was a freak Wtf? Any normal dude might have said "What are you doing? That's weird." But to jump right to the unflattering kind of name calling...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 12:32 PM
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So if I say we should cut off clits and some woman gets mad, she's the toxic, unreasonable one, got it.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 06:04 PM
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Not wanting to mutilate children is toxic now?
/r/MensRights11/01/22 03:18 PM
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How about you fuckin wait for the male to grow up and then let him decide? Why is it so important to you anyway? Do you enjoy mutilating little boys?
/r/MensRights11/01/22 01:17 PM
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but what else can women do? Call out other women for their BS. The problem was never that most women behave badly, but that the ones that don't, never seem to call out and socially ostracize the ones that do.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 01:15 PM
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Don't you know that women are too stupid to use objects?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 07:22 PM
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because they are minimal problems Until they happen to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 07:20 PM
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Whether or not he'll fuck around as long as he is able to depends on certain factors, but "his league" is not one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:19 PM
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GPS only exists because women in those environments refuse to date guys without college degrees. And because of the imbalance of gender among college graduates, I'd say you reap what you sow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 01:21 PM
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And you're right, it is juvenile and manipulative, but when we point it out we're misogynist incels who believe women are children, and when you point it out you're a pick-me or whatever other names they'll come up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 01:15 PM
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With a bad option (that you don't have to take) comes the knowledge that at least someone wants you, you at least get validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:30 AM
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It might be harder if you thing about the "bilogical clock" that stars much sooner for women And they all know that, so if they waste their time doing the NSA sex thing for a few years and then suddenly they hear the clock... it's on them. It's self inflicted difficulty.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:16 AM
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Yeah because women never cheat right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:13 AM
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You don't have to do any exercise to not be fat, and not fat is already a better shape than most Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:06 AM
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>one gender can easily get someone to ask her out no matter how attractive she is. This for example. Sorry, what? The women from the show "1000 pound sisters" both have managed to get partners. A woman can get a partner NO MATTER how unattractive she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:05 AM
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Any option is still better than no option
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:01 AM
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Guys are generally more likely to admit that they're shallow, not the guy whose comment you responded to, but on average it seems pretty obvious, now why that is, is an interesting question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 06:31 PM
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Like, you're allowed to be shallow, but don't pretend that you're not Then why don't women just admit that they're shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 05:37 PM
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He means the tax dollars that go to single moms, they may not be gold digging off of someone but they're still getting daddy governments checks... and guess who has to pay for those... men (and the women that can support themselves, but there are less of you and you make less as a group)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 05:28 PM
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So if your standards are 120 lb don't go around telling fat girls you should be 120 lb You must mistake me for a woman, I don't treat people who don't meet my standards with cruel malice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:04 PM
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This doesn't have anything to do with what I said. Since when have women ever demonstrated the ability to stick to a point?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:09 PM
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I'm talking about infanticide not abortions, that's why I said infants and not fetuses/embryos.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:50 PM
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No, I mean the not being fat one and the not being a whore one. Most men don't expect virgins, but we do expect non whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:49 PM
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Every time we express our standards you call us misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:15 AM
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True, not an excuse, but women will go so far as to defend these bad women and their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:13 AM
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I did not expect that conclusion lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:05 AM
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Says the gender that kills the most infants and lies about the parentage of their child.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:59 AM
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Except when you do it to us we just take it, and when we do it to you, you try to get us fired or worse, try to get the government to ban hate-speech against women or some shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:56 AM
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Utopianism is toxic and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 02:55 PM
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Sure we should all be going outside, but he also implied that... the apps should be forcibly shut down, which... isn't exactly reasonable or fair or what we need. People can go outside without Tinder and all the others having to be shut down.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 02:54 PM
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They have to strawman you because the refuse to address your the main argument. And if they were to address the main argument they'll deny that the situation exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:13 PM
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conscription Nah, don't end that, just make conscription mandatory for women too, that'll get their attention.
/r/MensRights03/12/21 05:40 PM
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Hope she sees this bro
/r/MensRights03/12/21 05:35 PM
1

If you're strictly talking about losing weight and getting toned Which is why I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about what would be considered "too muscular" for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 01:00 AM
0

announce what makes their peepee go up Having standards is the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:43 PM
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listen to what Women are saying they want Then fucking SAY what you want, and I mean directly, stop alluding to things, stop dropping hints, stop making men read between the lines, stop being fucking ambiguous so you have plausible deniability, say what you want and stand by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 09:53 PM
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That is because basically everyone, yes men and women, underestimates the amount of effort required for a woman to have a body that would be considered toned due to the naturally higher body fat percentage. It's so hard to reach a physique that men consider too muscular that this is basically a non issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 09:47 PM
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Height really isn't a big obstacle. Then why do most women's dating profiles have a height requirement? Are they all lying? Or saying it as a joke? Is it a tiktok trend to put that in your profile? I think you know the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 11:07 PM
3

She literally said other ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 04:00 PM
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No one was looking for income at 20 No one? Explain the girls in their early 20s dating 30 year old men. Sure it's just experience it definitely doesn't have anything to do with him paying for everything. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 03:59 PM
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This is true for men, too. Sure, I wasn't implying that women are more immature than men, just that the world treats them as if they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 01:06 AM
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Are you saying that a significant chunk of adult women have the mental capacity of 15 year olds?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 02:57 AM
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I think the fact that Grimes was in her 30s makes a difference too because women in their 20s are essentially treated like children.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 02:48 AM
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Well the issue is that no one here is agreeing on what constitutes large, so in the other guys' opinion you are making a strawman. Large is too vague of a term, when talking about something countable like money you should use actual numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 02:41 AM
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people do tend to find large earning/financial gaps unsettling for similar reasons Yeah... those people are men, men who know how the system works. The only guys who don't think it's unsettling are dudes who think they won't get caught up in it, or dudes who have the opinion of "he's getting young pussy and she's getting money" aka guys who view it as a purely transactional situation akin to prostitution. Obviously there are plenty of women who think this way too, but they rarely voice said opin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 02:38 AM
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When it comes to women like that I mean part of the problem is clearly that OP and her "friend" aren't women, they're children. That complicates the problem somewhat.
/r/MensRights12/11/21 02:48 PM
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The question isn't what they're getting, it's about what they're looking for. The comment is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 05:31 PM
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no options good enough Not always, plenty of guys with options are just sick of doing all the work courting and would therefore rather just pay to get it over with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:55 PM
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If you get gold dug you're stupid. Agree for the "classic" cases, but it's far more nuanced. Would you also agree that women who get fuckzoned or abandoned with a kid are stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 08:15 PM
2

women don't call out other women for stupid stuff Gold digging is stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 07:46 PM
2

Yeah... in private, but in the open it's all about the sisterhood don't you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 10:35 PM
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They can't always change it Unless they literally have a medical condition that prevents that, they can change it. They just don't wanna cut out the yummy stuff that's easy to make/buy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 10:31 PM
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Ooh the controlling periods one is my favorite one lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 01:52 AM
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ridiculous beliefs about how the female body works What kinds lol? Some ridiculous beliefs can be benign and stem from the utter lack of sex ed some places have, and some of those beliefs are held by men that have had plenty of sex. I get that you don't want to be with a guy that thinks vaginas become tunnels after frequent sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 01:27 AM
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Obviously that's the logic guys have for the reverse scenario but don't you also have increased risks with your scenario? Physical risks I mean, ones we don't really have at least not at comparable rates. Do the positives really outweigh the negatives?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 03:19 AM
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Because women find comfort in the moral high ground, they can only accept a negative about themselves when also asserting a negative about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 11:32 AM
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Actually on average the difference isn't that large, the difference becomes pronounced on the extremes. So the most agreeable people are women and the most disagreeable people are men. The average man is only slightly less agreeable than the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 11:31 AM
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Group think is different from a hivemind Of course lol, humans can't literally be hiveminds. It's literally impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 11:29 AM
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Its usually agreement for appeasement Which is what makes it pathetic, if they actually all agreed there wouldn't be anything wrong with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 11:27 AM
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appearing likeable and assimilating with the group than being honest And which gender is concerned with that more often? Women. Men and women can obviously disagree with each other and call each other out and most people don't see a problem with it. Men can call each other out and and disagree with each other and no one will bat an eye. Once a woman calls out another women (even if her callout is entirely reasonable), people will tell her to stfu, "Women have to stick together" all that sisterho…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 11:25 AM
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Makes sense if our immune systems are just shittier compared to womens.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 11:25 PM
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It's basically real: https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/man-flu-really-thing-2018010413033 Here are the highlights from the study: Influenza vaccination tends to cause more local (skin) and systemic (bodywide) reactions and better antibody response in women. Testosterone may play a role, as men with the highest levels tended to have a lower antibody response. A better antibody response may lessen the severity of flu, so it’s possible that vaccinated men get more severe symptoms than women becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:37 PM
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None of what you described correlates with my understanding of toxic masculinity Well then your understanding isn't the mainstream one... cause the mainstream one seems to posit most stereotypically masculine traits as negative when it fits whatever argument they are trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:33 PM
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You and I both know it's only a certain type of bald, fully shaved head. It's never the balding George Costanza haircut type dudes women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 11:42 AM
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Sure it's a low bar to meet... if you take that wording. If you then ask what exactly they mean by that it becomes a whole other story.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:56 AM
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For that matter why do people like long hair in a woman? Indicator of good health. Bald people seem old or sickly to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:47 AM
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They overestimate it in relation to the men they feel like they deserve and they underestimate it in relation to the women "around" (not just in their vicinity, I'm obviously including the internet too) them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:34 PM
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So did he, he paid for those trips and dinner dates and didn't enjoy it. He was young and naive too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:44 PM
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They're not meant to be dating replacements. They're meant to fulfill the need for sex, with that need fulfilled, men wouldn't be so desperate and would actually look for women with good traits instead of doing anything they can to get their dicks wet, that would mean women would have to put in more effort because they can't rely on being sexually desirable alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 02:58 PM
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Eh... more like a male cross between nice girls and bad boy chasers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:44 AM
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The personalities are not the problem, at least in my experience, it's the shit they talk about... it's fucking mind numbingly boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:12 PM
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I agree it easy, but how come it's expected of us but 90 percent of women are incapable of not being boring?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:58 PM
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Are you incapable of grasping the point? We don't wanna be treated as entertainment objects the same way women don't wanna be treated as sex objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:57 PM
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The comparison is still bad because... 2 out of 3 of the traits you described for women are directly controllable and 0 out of 3 are controllable for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 12:38 PM
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Can we not be successful and ambitious without it involving men in some way? Of course you can, but once all the career goals are achieved (I know you'll form new goals or whatever but you know what I mean) people usually start thinking about the other aspects in their life, their other desires, one of them often being romance, a relationship, marriage, whatever, etc. And then the questions start pouring in: Why does he like her and not me, my job is way better? He has a good job and women like …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:58 PM
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Most successful, independent women do not want to settle for a man that is not also successful and independent. Men have been willing to provide for women, now with changing times, why are women not willing to do the same? It's an interesting question. Especially with the rise of highly paid women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:52 PM
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Of course that's the case with all things being equal, but to get to that point takes time, meaning that the $25k woman is usually younger than the $75k woman. In your hypothetical scenario, virtually every guy would pick the $75k woman. ​ Anecdotal evidence, of course, but there's 9 men who care at least a little about the money their partners make. I wouldn't phrase it as guys caring about money just a little bit, it's more of a "it's great if she has it, if not that's fine too, unless she's j…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:42 PM
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it has a negative impact on our dating life Well technically the impact is only indirectly negative, like it doesn't automatically put you in a worse position. The career stuff takes time therefore you'll be older when seriously dating which is a clear negative impact, but compared to a woman that's the same age but without those things you'll still be the better option. But then there's also the fact that most women that take the career route will be inclined to artificially restrict their dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:32 PM
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Of course not but it's not like they will ever see it that way.
/r/MensRights18/09/21 10:26 PM
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most women who are doing well in our careers/financial lives aren't doing it to attract men Agreed, that's not the reason why these women do it... but they do often think that it gives them an advantage over other women... which isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 07:25 PM
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It's about power, saving face, and not wanting to work hard for things. If they want equal rights, they have to start acting like it. That would require effort. Why can’t feminists accept the fact that there’s good men out there? Because when you want to demonize a group there can't be any innocents, all of them have to be bad otherwise you'd be demonizing a good person and when you do that you're suddenly the bad guy. Why can't the communists accept the fact that there's good bourgeois people o…
/r/MensRights18/09/21 06:22 PM
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you hear info about your friend's friends Except you never hear the red flags, women ALWAYS overvalue their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 07:23 PM
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Men need to stop being so goddamn thirsty and handing women basically everything just because they have pussy. It NEEDS to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 02:28 PM
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He means the women that are single mothers not women in general. In the past they used to be victims of circumstance aka their actions didn't cause their single-motherhood. Nowadays we recognize that these women are often not blameless for their single mother status.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 01:30 PM
2

But what if the person with lower standards... has objectively decent standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 07:00 PM
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I don't think that's the case intrinsically, I think men just happen to "own less shit that can accumulate dirt" in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:23 PM
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Dirty? No. Plain? Sure, I don't need 17 picture frames on the mantle piece and 7 pillows on the couch, each with 2 spare pillow cases, I don't need 8 different tablecloths either, one placemat for each chair is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:20 PM
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That's just people are conflating IMPORTANT work with DIFFICULT work. And no, I am not saying it is easy. I mean on a technical level it is easy, no special skills are required. On an emotional level it can be described as taxing or hard or whatever, but not difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:17 PM
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Another thing I missed is women buying more things that men consider "useless", things that also require to be cleaned... like dozens of pictures that need dusting and pillowcases that need washing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:11 PM
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if this wasn’t mine, what would I think? So then then a new question arises... why are women so judgemental of others? Men have a personal sense — I don’t care, and fuck you for trying to make me care Have you looked deeper into it though? I do things because not doing them would cause issues. Dust on a shelf is an issue, so I clean it. A shirt on the ground is not an issue until I do the laundry so I just pick up the shirt and toss it in with the rest or until I clean the floor in which case I …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:09 PM
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You're ignoring scenarios where the person with the higher standards has blatantly unreasonable standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:50 PM
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How are paper plates... selfish? Wasteful for sure because you're creating garbage, but selfish???
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:45 PM
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My partner and I could never lol, we're too paranoid about privacy and stealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:27 PM
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Yes, but a sock and a shirt on the ground doesn't constitute dirty to me, for something to be dirty according to my definition there has to be particles of dust or whatever. The entire point is that we have different standards for what constitutes clean or dirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:18 PM
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here are ten things I did for you (none of which were asked for). Now, you need to do these ten things I tell you. That's like those homeless people that clean your windshield at an intersection without you asking them to do so and then getting mad that you're not paying them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:11 PM
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Yes, this. Everyone is happy to live in an environment that they deem clean and tidy, but anything even cleaner and tidier only brings diminishing returns in terms of quality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 12:01 AM
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Living in a clean, comfortable, and tidy home is a non-negotiable, and doing whatever work to achieve that is the duty of both parties. ​ Yes, but the entire point is that what constitutes clean and tidy is entirely subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 11:54 PM
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Just hit 'em with their logic, women love that/s "I know not all feminists hate men, but enough so that it feels unsafe."
/r/MensRights23/08/21 12:13 PM
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Oh it's horrible, just not as horrible as you thought lol. had to wrestle Wojtek the Bear to survive How dare you? Wojtek is a good boy, he would have shared.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 11:29 PM
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Well yeah the situation is worse for women, never said that wasn't the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 11:26 PM
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Lol no, if you're very muscular you'll be classified as overweight(you'll probably hit 27 maybe 28) not obese. BMI is a good measurement for everyone that isn't a massive gymbro.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 05:34 PM
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70% are overweight meaning a BMI above 25. "Only" like 40% are obese. It's bad... just not as bad as we thought lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 05:32 PM
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Yeah we got the bank robbery and murder statistics... they got the infanticide tho... we gotta catch up, but idk if we can.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 11:57 AM
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Would you say that many clout chasers are wrongly referred to as gold diggers? and that those outnumber gold diggers?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:20 PM
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Her face and body. For example, a bikini picture in front of a blank background is just as good as a bikini picture at the beach. I don't care if one is "exciting" or whatever, I'm rating her, not the rest of the photo. A picture of her smiling at home is just as good as a picture of her smiling in a vacation picture (provided both pictures have similar levels of makeup). The setting is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 09:02 PM
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That's the issue... women rate the photo instead of the man, and men correctly rate the woman instead of the photo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:43 PM
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Sure but if you're actually pretty there's still further tangible benefit compared to just being average and having a normal weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 11:08 PM
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you forgot pretty
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 04:41 PM
3

>mentioned Dagestan outta nowhere >must be MMA fan
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 12:03 AM
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TRP tactics are manipulative to a large extend So.... TRP tactics are like women's tactics?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 06:15 PM
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I was with you until you said IG... what a pathetic reason lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 01:02 AM
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Is obesity more of a problem for male attractiveness than for female? I think being obese lowers your value more if you're a woman but you already have more relative value by default and it just seems like it's more detrimental to men because they already had their low value diminished. So fat guys are lower on the totem pole than fat women but the impact that the fat has isn't as great as the impact the fat had on the woman. I am saying this as someone who has basically no fat people in his cir…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 12:57 AM
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My point is income has very little impact on actual infidelity. A cheater is a cheater no matter what income they are. Their ethics, upbringing, sex drive and personal character has more impact on cheating than how much money they make. Of course, but being a person that wants to cheat and actually cheating are two different things. The rates at which men may want to cheat may not differ at different income levels but the rich guys can probably find people to cheat with more easily thus increasi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:33 PM
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Yeah HVM is the wrong term.... Men that are economically valuable cheat more because they have options. It does not make them more valuable as people. Having a good job doesn't make you a better person. HVM usually means a man that is economically valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:29 PM
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There aren't an equal amount of men in these different fields so it doesn't say a lot about who is more likely to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:27 PM
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I mean yeah, it just depends on what the issue was. If it was depression then it's likely that it affected how you look, if it was trust issues then those probably didn't affect how you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:33 PM
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If there's one advice I would give lonely guys is to fix your mental issues. I know it's easier said than done but that's probably the number one reason women aren't interested in you. Looks are truly, very secondary for relationships. That's good advice... for guys that can't seem to keep relationships, a lot of guys can't even get them so it is the looks. Looks get you the person, personality is how you keep them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:47 PM
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That's where men and women differ. A guy might put up with some horrible mentally ill psycho who will ruin his life.... because of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:51 AM
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Then you're correct, it isn't common, but why tf would anyone be nice to people they barely know??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:47 AM
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More men should compliment each-other. That doesn't do anything. The source of the compliment matters when assessing its value. Compliments from other straight men are basically just slightly better than mom compliments which are essentially worthless. Compliments from gay guys are good tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:11 PM
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And it isn't really common for men to be nice to each other Define being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:04 PM
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Well by your (wrong) definition of respect, women also don't respect men, so why should men respect women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 12:57 PM
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What i mean is, i shouldnt have to be treated as "one of the guys" to have a normal platonic friendship. Why is it way less common for a man to be "one of the girls"? So your entire problem is that men and women define respect differently and thus have different standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 12:51 PM
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If women can do it so can men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 10:07 AM
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Because women ALWAYS demand that men call out the "bad apples" yet they never do it themselves when it comes to the "bad apples" among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:44 PM
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People adapt to trends. If that minority grows it will have negative effects on the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:23 PM
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wishing harm on others my guy Don't act like #killallmen doesn't exist. Also I wasn't comparing them directly. I asked a question and you brought up incels out of nowhere because you seem to have a hateboner for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:16 PM
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Of course they're doing something wrong. They want something they don't deserve and then get mad at society. What's correct about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:13 PM
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Yeah incels have horrible opinions but they're already being silenced and told to stfu. That's my entire point. The bad stuff from guys is largely criticized in the mainstream the bad stuff from women is not. Nice whataboutism btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:09 PM
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Plenty are kinda silly And we have to be able to acknowledge that. but to write it off entirely When did I say I write it off entirely? I just say that it CAN be taken to ridiculous levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 06:53 PM
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Well not enough people make fun of the 6-6-6 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 06:43 PM
1

Sure but some opinions are literally worthless to the discourse (plus they make your gender look bad because they're so vocal) .
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 06:42 PM
1

Well some of them are ridiculous and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 06:35 PM
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Men being less thirsty, women facing reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:20 PM
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The women who parrot 6-6-6 are a vocal minority imo. If they're a minority then why don't the other women tell them to stfu?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:17 PM
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They are not angry that women are having casual sex. They are angry that the women they WANT are having casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:21 PM
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Exactly. If a man has the choice between paying and guaranteed sex and paying for a date and a chance at sex, then women will have to offer something besides sex to make dates worth it. It equalizes the power dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 09:46 AM
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Only if they see sex as some sort of salvation instead of a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 09:44 AM
2

Don't the trial runs even prove increased efficiency iirc?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 09:41 AM
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Being respectful and acknowledging people how they want to be viewed is not bad at all. It can be taken to ridiculous and delusional levels tho. What if I want to be viewed as a kind and empathetic person and behave like some idiot dipshit asshole? I'm not owed recognition for my delusions if I have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 09:40 AM
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Men who aren’t interested in a woman should keep their pants on. You can literally say the same thing about women. So in the end you're saying men are just as bad as women. Or you're saying it's okay if one group does it? Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 01:46 AM
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Casual flings don’t receive love, solicitude, sacrifice, or family. Those are important... but what he wants is also important. Shouldn't you want to give the things he wants to him if you value him so much? They get selfishly used as a dildo and are abandoned in the morning. The point is that you could use the guy that you want (since he's clearly available) and then not abandon him. How hard is that to grasp? Look we can be real and admit that this issue eventually boils down to "she picked me…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 01:42 AM
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Exactly lol, they're just admitting that they're as bad as they accuse us of being.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 01:30 AM
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Sure that's an option for yourself, but it won't change the trends. If sex were available for payment them women would have to... you know... offer something other than pussy to make dates worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 01:07 AM
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If you don't respect someone, you should leave them alone. Tell that to the women who date guys they don't respect, and stay for their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:30 PM
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Do women still not understand that men's standards for sex are lower than our standards for a relationship?? I could never date someone I can't respect, I can sleep with someone I can't respect. It's very simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:30 PM
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Oh I can, but she's making a claim based on the assumption that the answer to her questions is no in both cases, therefore I just wanna see if she can even fulfill what she is asking for. Presumably she'll answer yes to both, as would anyone, but she'll probably fail to realize that most people think they're empathetic, kind and caring even if they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:09 PM
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Are you looking good? Are you empathetic, kind and caring? Are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:57 PM
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Are you actually incapable of comprehending that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:22 PM
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Yeah but women often pretend like men are the only ones that are shallow even though it's pretty obvious that women are just as shallow as men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:44 PM
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Yes no shit, but women often like to pretend that men only care about looks while taking the moral high ground and saying that they care about personality more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:17 AM
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Women don't "provide" or "give" sex, sex is an activity that ideally both partners want and participate in Correct. The problem is that some women do see it like that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:42 AM
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No, I mean that "overestimating your worth is better than being a doormat to some loser" is setting the bar real low. Of course it's better than being a doormat, everything is better than that. It's a low threshold to cross.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 06:20 PM
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Sure but that's setting the bar real low... how about trying to be realistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:43 AM
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More like over estimating your worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 06:06 PM
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Might not be the most important overall but it comes as the "first" thing, like as in the first thing you notice, no matter how amazing someone might be, most people won't be with them if they look hideous. Looks get you the partner, personality is how you keep them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 02:02 PM
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Well the entire problem is the hypocrisy. If a woman gets a "better guy" then it's "you go girl", if a man does the same thing and the "better girl" happens to be younger and more attractive then he's a piece of shit according to most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 01:23 PM
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True... but the ability to swim is quite uncommon among them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 01:56 PM
2

It's very likely that it would drown.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 09:30 AM
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Well since you mentioned the biological clock I just assumed you meant a woman that was already like 30.... cause that's pretty late to start over and find a new guy and build a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:31 AM
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Yeah but in different ways... some more benign than others. Breaking up with a perfectly fine guy because your friends poisoned your mind is toxic. Overspending on cool shit you wanted as a 12 year old is dumb but not toxic. There's almost no one who actually grasps adulthood at 18. I agree I just meant it as grasping that aspect of adulthood. I should have clarified.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:41 AM
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If a woman wants a kid she has a biological clock Then bailing is an even dumber idea.... it'll take time to find a new guy and build a new relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:34 AM
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Does she hate it/him when he's happy? Agree with all the other ones but this one is way too common for many situations to just be a tell for settling. Women not wanting others to enjoy themselves is common for mothers when their children "aren't doing what they're supposed to" or when their husbands "aren't doing what she told him 3 times to do".... It's a mom thing, because they obsess over minute bullshit that doesn't really matter and need everything to be perfect to keep up appearances.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:33 AM
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Unfortunately you're not a psychic lol... if you were tho... tell me lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:29 AM
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beyond the age of 25 That's exactly the issue... that is way too fucking late to act like a grown up. Anyone who acts like that beyond age 18 is a garbage person.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:27 AM
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Only one gender lies about the father of the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:41 AM
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Whether something is legal or not definitely matters. Some people might be desperate enough to "pay for some pussy" but not desperate enough to "break the law and literally commit a crime to pay for some pussy". Cam sites are legal? You don’t consider that prostitution? I mean we can call it that sure, but compared to directly paying a sex worker for sex, what the "customer" receives is totally different. Paying a sex worker for sex literally allows one to "bypass the hurdle" or losing one's vir…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:44 PM
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What’s unreasonable about getting fit and strong? Doing roids and getting surgeries just to get pussy is unreasonable. Also why do you care about what women can get through virtue? What women can get just happens to be the comparison that's relevant to the discussion, whether anyone cares or not is irrelevant, it's reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:39 PM
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train in the gym 5x a week, even run a few roid cycles if you need, surgeries/orthodontic treatments So... do unreasonable and expensive things and then you might be able to do what women can do by the virtue of being born women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:05 PM
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exactly... not a good country... sexist against those who buy... not okay. Same with Sweden. And a lot of Balkan states are reversed, you can buy but you can't sell.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 01:18 AM
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Cmon, let’s be real here, prostitution has been legal since cam sites existed. Are you unaware that not every place is the same?? Prostitution isn't legal everywhere(it's only legal in the good countries... i.e. the Netherlands, Switzerland, Germany, New Zealand, most of Australia etc.). In some places the buyer is criminalized, in some places both the buyer and seller.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 05:06 PM
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It's certainly equally unfair but I believe the reason tall women are often not mentioned in this debate is because they're not as common as fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 01:39 AM
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Yeah a few minutes also counts as a refractory period
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 03:52 PM
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That's quite... weird to answer without knowing some more circumstances of the scenario. Is alternate me a woman that would be asked to date "real" me? If yes, how attractive is that woman? Is she just gender swapped "real" me in terms of personality and interests? Or am I gay in this scenario? Is alternate me in a similar life situation as "real" me?
/r/seduction19/06/21 09:57 AM
1

There's a difference between saying "you look great" and "you are beautiful", one can be said to anyone, the other one shouldn't be said to people that are objectively ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 11:53 PM
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I don’t join in, just roll my eyes. The worst part is.... you can't even call them out, because that would be social suicide for you. They'd all ditch you if you dared to disagree with them.
/r/MensRights13/06/21 08:12 PM
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How is that binary? Because YOU called 4s 5s and 6s UGLY. According to what standard does that make any sense?? If that is ugly, then to me it seems you think everyone who isn't hot is ugly, in which case it is a binary between hot and ugly, like night and day, or male and female, good and bad, whatever the fuck you want. Binary applies to more than just computers. Men like whores Yes, obviously, but for sex, NEVER for marriage, unless they have no self respect. You guys never explain the the cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:22 PM
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True ofc
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:00 AM
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In a way yeah... but like just don't. What are they gonna do if you don't honor societal contracts? They can't exactly stop you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:50 AM
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Each person has their own example of creepy, but most often, it's the lack of social grace. Yes, but can you at least acknowledge that women let handsome men get away with creepy behavior? Or that it is often unfairly thrown around? Women are often reluctant to reject a guy because he's doesn't fit her attractiveness standard so they say that he's creepy when he's not and use that as a pretense to reject him. Because rejecting someone based on attractiveness is shallow and it's "what men do" and…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:35 AM
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So? Why do you have to think about everything in groups lol? If you're afraid of all men because rape is mostly perpetrated by men should we as a society keep women away from infants because the majority of all infanticide is perpetrated by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 07:21 AM
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There are tonnes of hot women who date ugly men They're probably perfectly average but you find them ugly lol. Plus if an ugly dude has money then you have to blame the gold diggers for that, not society as a whole lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 07:18 AM
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Creep is the most inconsistently used one. It should be used if someone does something creepy, since it denotes judgement of one's behavior... but it is rarely used if a handsome guy behaves in the same way as an average or ugly guy. So it's a bad example. Most of the others check out but you can make the same argument for the insults against women --> If a woman is being insulted then she must have done something to warrant it/ If a man is being insulted then he must have done something to warr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 07:11 AM
1

Misandry isn't real Oh you're one of those. Why are you on PPD then? Go back to FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 12:27 AM
1

Okay in that case educate yourself. Slurs and insults are not the same thing. If I call someone an asshole that's an insult, if I call them the n word that's a slur. That's a bad example but you'll get the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 09:10 PM
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Stop pretending that the posting of dead people has anything to do with misogyny. Dead guys get posted all the time too. There are certainly threads that discuss how all women are whores yada yada take the blackpill, but the dead picture argument does not hold up lol. Also, when did I deny that 4chan( /b/) is a shithole? You however denied that misandry on Twitter is real by putting it in quotation marks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 09:06 PM
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bitch still isn't a slur lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 08:56 PM
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Ah so if it's against men it's an insult but if it's against women it's a slur. Gotcha. Have fun being unhappy and playing the victim for the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 08:15 PM
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So we're gonna pretend that #killallmen hasn't been used often at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 08:14 PM
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It is okay. You don't get to force your American (I'm assuming, sorry if I'm wrong) sensibilities onto other cultures, you don't own the English language. That word literally doesn't mean the same thing over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 08:13 PM
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Yeah all those terms exist but like OP said a sub dedicated to shaming them would be shut down. Imagine r/whores or r/bimbo. Also... gold diggers are legitimately bad people. Also a lot of the terms you listed aren't things that are related to dating, which seems to be OPs point given the terms he chose, I could be mistaken on this one tho. Plus bleeder isn't really comparable to any of the others either since that seems to be a term that transwomen use to disparage women who disagree with their…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 08:10 PM
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Let's be real, any standard is acceptable as long as you don't blame anyone but yourself for your own singledom, if your standards happen to be almost statistically impossible to achieve. Example: Let's go with the female "classic" 6 ft. height, okay so you're open to dating 15% of the male population, remove all men in relationships, out of your age range and all homosexuals, you'll have a significantly smaller pool but it's still reasonable... BUT if you add 6 figures to your criteria then you…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:31 AM
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That's not how it works. Being short or tall is relative to gender. 5'4 is not short if you're a woman, it's average. 5'8 isn't tall for a man but it is for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:19 AM
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You only think that because you're tall. What is considered freakish is always dependent on the average. Your height isn't freakishly tall, but that's because you're a man, a woman of your height would be considered freakishly tall, because the average is a lot shorter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:16 AM
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just dont whine like a bitch when its not fulfilled HOLY SHIT DUDE THAT'S EXACTLY EVERYONE'S POINT The women get to have their (unreasonable) standards...but they fucking whine like little bitches because the standards often don't get fulfilled (because of the rarity of the traits that they're looking for) AND they have the audacity to blame the other gender. She's short and wants a tall guy and finds him. Great. She doesn't find him. Too bad for her, but she doesn't get to whine. But they alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:11 AM
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Many men here romanticize age gap relationships No. They romanticize age gap sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 08:31 AM
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You responded to his comment first lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 10:36 PM
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No it's only hostile to western men doing that. They wouldn't be importing third worlders otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 11:16 AM
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Not entirely, your physical body is ALWAYS a part of you but it's not all of you, and the objects you have are not part of you. So I agree with your premise that being financially attracted to someone is worse than being physically attracted to them but I disagree with this comment specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 02:01 AM
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When did I describe men's friendships with each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 12:19 PM
1

When did I describe men's friendships with each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 12:19 PM
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No, I just oppose unwarranted and over the top fake compliments. "You look great" is fine and can be said about almost anyone, "OMG BABE GORGEOUS" is insane and disingenuous because it's likely not true, because the vast majority of people are not gorgeous. Why do women have this need to exaggerate?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 12:18 PM
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I would say it's like 95% men's fault... First of all there's just no way that women are not at all responsible and second of all... have you seen the comments women post under their average friend's instagram pictures? I mean holy shit stop lying to each other, your friend is not gorgeous, she's fine, there's nothing wrong with fine but women need to stop pretending the "everyone is beautiful in their own way" BS is reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 08:35 PM
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Well both men and women are free to not build for the future... but if they don't, they can't make any demands like someone like you could.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 11:35 PM
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You say you're investing into becoming a person worthy of such a man, which is good. Most women are not doing that however.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 11:04 PM
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Of course they want companionship, but a lot of them see no hope because they can't even get sex which "is supposed to be easier"(it only appears this way bc of modern culture) to get, and the urge is more immediate. I understand the pain. It sucks that you've had to struggle but the pain of got getting relationship and not getting sex are different. As much as many people blame themselves for not finding companionship which can take on toll on someone, at least the possibility exists that you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 08:27 AM
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It's different, since during his "worst years" he still had something to offer evident by the fact that he made it. The women who spout "If you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best" are usually insufferable during "their worst" and aren't all that amazing during "their best", nothing to make it worth it, they're just nice, normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 04:37 AM
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Ya but have you experienced something that many men have... the inability to get sex unless they pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 04:32 AM
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That's not the same as FDS tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 01:33 AM
1

You feel sympathy not empathy... and it's not your fault. It's almost impossible for you to understand what it's like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 01:25 AM
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Being open to a relationship but not actively looking is a valid stance tho... Sure it's not as successful but it's not contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:03 AM
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Because people only really care about the first world, due to believing that the third world is either unfixable or that it takes way too much effort to fix.
/r/MensRights23/04/21 07:08 PM
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What's better editing it here or just making a whole new post?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 12:38 AM
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if it’s the hope that women hitting on men will result in women lowering their standards It won't but it will result in them FINALLY being able to empathize with the situation instead of always just dismissing any grievance men have. Positive impact for whom? Literally everyone except the people who refuse to put any effort into dating. You do realize that if women hit on men That doesn't constitute making the first move... asking someone out does. But a lot of women get that wrong lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 09:57 PM
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How much text does there have to be for it to not be considered low effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 07:49 PM
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Of course you do, but not nearly to the degree that men do, which is what is necessary for there to be an actual positive impact on dating culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 07:47 PM
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It's gotten so bad one of my friends literally forgot the word misandry, she called it misogyny against men. Bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 04:44 PM
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It's not taboo, implying that it's a negative thing is taboo.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 04:36 PM
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Maybe they'd get rejected less if they put some effort into making the first move more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:56 PM
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I think there's also the fact that women don't like the idea of being perceived as shallow because that's a label they usually ascribe to men, so instead of rejecting a guy based on looks (which is their right) they use the excuse of he was being creepy, when in fact the same behavior that a "creepy" guy is exhibiting is also present in attractive guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 10:20 AM
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I agree, but we are still subject to society's rules and its judgements, we can't escape that easily... at least not as individuals or small groups
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 06:48 PM
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Oh ya I definitely think it wasn't phrased in an ideal way, but it still contributes to the point where people immediately assume the worst if it's coming from a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 12:00 PM
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Equivalent does not mean equal. Both sex and cuddling are intimate things people want from their partners in a relationship and both are something that require the consent of both parties. Why tf do you sound so bitter lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 05:14 PM
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Well the problem is that the same behavior exhibited by men and women doesn't get viewed as equally controlling or demanding. If a guy asked to know his girlfriends location at all times he'd be viewed as a lunatic(rightly so) but if a woman does the same she might even get encouraged by her friends because "men are pigs yada yada you can't trust him" or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 01:29 PM
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On a personal level you're right. It isn't a man/woman thing. On a societal level it becomes a man/woman thing because guys who withhold consent whether that be for cuddling or for sex are viewed negatively, while women who withhold consent, particularly for sex are seen as empowered by large segments of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 01:23 PM
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Of course you can deny your partner anything and they might complain about it, but withholding your consent is clearly seen differently by society depending on who withheld the consent. So, to answer your question, society cares apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 01:20 PM
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They're equivalent enough. Both require consent and a person can withhold consent for any reason. Men are judged negatively for withholding their consent, women are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 01:15 PM
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Well it depends how you define penalty. In a legal sense of course not, but if a guy turns down cuddling or sex for that matter it's seen as an obvious negative by most. If a woman turns down sex it's seen as empowering. I just want both situations to be seen as equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 01:11 PM
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Are you incapable of reading? All he implied was that if women CAN deny something then men should be able to do so too, regardless of what it is. And that the men that invoke their right to deny something shouldn't be viewed differently than the women who do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 02:57 AM
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almost as much really? Just admit that it's equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:13 PM
0

How you view virgin males.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 10:08 PM
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Most women don't think like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 03:16 PM
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You need to recognize that you're in the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 08:59 AM
0

So they're NOT responsible for THEIR decision to date a substantially older adult?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 03:30 AM
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I know that that is your opinion when it comes to minors but what about young adults?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 07:07 AM
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Alright maybe blame is the wrong word. Let me rephrase. Is it their own fault for being in such a relationship as opposed to being manipulated into being in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 12:03 PM
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Age differences of more than 3 years under the age of 25 are suspect I agree, but my question to you was whether you would put any sort of BLAME onto the younger adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 06:31 AM
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Those guys “dating” teenagers are predators. They can’t get women their own age so they have to trick and lure children with lower critical thinking skills. I don't disagree with that, but EVERY situation requires the actions of 2 people (except when violence or an established formal power structure are involved obviously). Obviously there isn't equal blame but there has to be SOME. Maybe educate teenagers that dating a 25 year old isn't *cool* or whatever, but you can't just dismiss it. And jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 04:15 AM
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Do you honestly think every situation where an adult "dates" a teenager has a power dynamic like teacher student or boss employee?? And I'm not talking about "old" people. I was referring to those guy in his mid 20s dates 17 year old cases which are far more common. ​ Your brain is not fully developed until age 25, and your reasoning and judgment skills are the last to form. So? Young adults and teenagers are still culpable for their actions. Would you make that argument about a 17 year old gang…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 03:46 AM
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Yeah their power level has exceeded that of men. Sure the people at the top are overwhelmingly men, but that's irrelevant to all the average men and women. Women are advantaged in academia, the judicial system, all gender quotas state that there has to be a certain amount of women, that amount can exceed 50/50 and no one cares if there aren't enough men in a given field or position. All advantages that men have are physical, which we are not able to legally make use of (nor should we). Women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 01:36 PM
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Strictly speaking it was a question. And this is also the guy calling everyone who disagrees with him incels, doesn't that also count as a personal attack?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 01:27 PM
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Any adult man having sex with a teenager IS a predator. Yes. But my point is that those girls aren't blameless either ( I mean unless they were forcibly raped obviously), they're old enough to know it's wrong. Mostly men perpetuate that, you realize that right? This is like the argument that because most murderers are men, men can't complain about being disproportionately murdered and use it in an argument when women discuss violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 12:26 PM
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When an adult has sex with a teenager... we are all aware of the double standard. The man is assumed to be a predator, the teenage girl blameless. In the reverse scenario the teenage boy is assumed to like it. The double standard exists only because of the assumption of men being predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 12:09 PM
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Why am I not branded a child predator yet, and can chat with moms at the park? Maybe because the moms know you. But it's not like I'm only talking about that type of situation exclusively. It's when women just assume a guy is creepy (because he's not hot). It's the stigma male kindergarten teachers get (if they even get the job). It's the complete double standard that happens when an adult has sex with a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 11:14 AM
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You're just assuming that he or I for that matter haven't discussed this with women, just because those women don't agree with you it doesn't make it illegitimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 11:03 AM
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Well if a person could pick, would they rather be around children without being assumed to be one of the worst things a human being can be labeled as, or feel perfectly safe in public (and it's not like men feel perfectly safe, there's pressure to be a man and say you're not afraid when you really are, maybe not afraid of rape but we can still get robbed or assaulted)?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 06:15 AM
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Women can be around children without being assumed to be one of the worst things a human being can be labeled as.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 06:09 AM
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You're also ASSUMED to be a fucking predator, whether it be children or women. Do you honestly think that's better than someone assuming you're not good at leadership or not competent at your job?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 06:08 AM
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Why? For the same reason anti gun people focus on school shooters. It helps the narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 12:54 PM
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They get the hate because they believe themselves to be catches. Imagine a fat neckbeard thinking he's a 10 and is thus entitled to pussy, he'd get hate or ridicule too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 12:48 PM
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Depends on your definition of curves but ok. 6 foot and 200lbs is overweight btw. not obese, but still overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 02:30 AM
3

So all those dating profiles and social media posts by women who make outrageous claims are fake then?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 02:26 AM
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He probably means that in practice, women don't simply like men who are more educated, they will exclude men of the same education level, but will never admit to it and phrase their preference/desire in a way that seems non hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 02:24 AM
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I think you interpret standards very differently than most people. 2-5 from your list are all things that you don't know going into a relationship. Most people would consider those standards, something else, something important, but standards aren't the word for it. Most people see standards as something a person has to have for you to even consider getting into a relationship with them. Just my 2 cents.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 02:22 AM
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Reasonable standards both sexes could have: Partner must be in the same "weight category" - Sorry but you don't get guys with a six pack if you're obese, and you don't get girls with skinny waists and toned asses when you can't see your dick. A job. A good job even... if you can match it. Being in the same "league" - Although it needs to be said that women have to be realistic about themselves or about men, I'm not sure where the disconnect is. Either they rate men in general too low, or themsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 02:15 AM
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Standards for sex or for a relationship? Because imo men's standards for a relationship are fine... but our standards for sex are abysmally low.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 02:10 AM
2

It's obviously not thicc, but it's perfectly healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 02:08 AM
0

I would say so. Men need to stop solely thinking with their dicks, it's partially how we ended up in this mess (the current dating scene).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 01:45 AM
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Depends on height, at 6 foot, yes, at 5'5 no, it's healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 01:44 AM
2

makes minimum wage won't date men who make minimum wage that's probably the most common example lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 01:41 AM
2

But these aforementioned assholes do exist, therefore a group of people that is "undateable" exists, which was the point I made.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 05:12 PM
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If you have eyes you'll know that what feminists do is a lot more than "fight for human rights" and don't come with the No true Scotsman fallacy. He aptly described what he meant when said no feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 04:56 PM
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Don't buy into the "there's someone for everybody" lie. Sure, some of the people who don't fit your criteria are perfectly fine, but there are those people out there who for whatever reason have physical and/or personality flaws that no one can overlook. That's who we mean when we say low value. It doesn't matter if you oppose the use of that specific term, people like that exist regardless of what you call them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 04:52 PM
7

Casual sex not child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 09:55 AM
2

Leave him be, he can be as "boring"(according to your opinion) as he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:15 AM
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As long as they don't try to convert me or are too into it... like for all religions, I won't date a religious zealot, no matter if she's jewish, christian, muslim or hindu.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:12 AM
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The average man doesn't want a slut, regardless of politics. Of course what n-count constitutes being a slut can differ significantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 07:07 PM
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you don’t tend to discuss previous sex with partners It can always come up... and if you act apprehensive... he'll suspect things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 11:24 AM
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Oh there will be plenty guys, just not the guys you want. High value men don't settle down with sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 06:06 AM
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Disagree. Women usually don't start out thinking that they're more attractive than they actually are, but through constant undeserved compliments from their female friends their ego shoots through the roof and average girls suddenly think they're 9s and 10s. I mean just a look at the comment section of an Instagram post by a woman, it's all "omg you're gorgeous" "beautiful girl" and shit like that even though the girl just looks average. Now people can comment what they want but it's obvious tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 11:10 PM
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I'm not making that argument, I just stated OP's argument, which does not in any way advocate that women shouldn't be picky or that they should settle. All OP said is that those women that do settle AND have an attitude about it are most likely delusional about being out of the league of their partner. I don't think people should settle in general, it's obviously bad in the long run, for both parties. If you do settle for someone however, don't act like a saint, you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 08:41 AM
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Literally all OP did was say that the women who supposedly date ugly guys to give them a chance should stop their high and mighty attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 05:13 AM
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Having a pessimistic outlook on one area in life, romance doesn't mean you're not enjoying life. You can enjoy life and still be have a pessimistic outlook in certain areas, it's not all or nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:31 PM
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Well, romantic love seems to make a lot of people very happy thus leading me and many others to believe that it is a positive thing. Believing that one is unable to achieve that for whatever reason is quite pessimistic in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 01:12 PM
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That's quite pessimistic. Are you blaming men, yourself, both or society in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:51 AM
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Why? What's so bad with you having to ask him out?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 06:35 AM
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So you ask beforehand?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 01:59 AM
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Well you don't have to date the vast majority, I'm just thinking that the kind of guy that's "right" for you or compatible or whatever you wanna call it, might not seek you out, might not consider you until you ask him. Who knows. You should ask out the ones you're interested in of course not the vast majority, that would be insane lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 01:59 AM
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they probably shouldn’t do it unless they want to. then the relationship will go rotten because of his resentment. Agreed. same with women who only wear makeup or god forbid get pregnant because they feel like they “have to”. they should stop painting their faces and having kids if they don’t want to! Agreed. There are also lots of women who genuinely enjoy equally contributing in every way. Those are the women that men need to focus on if we want the attitudes of society to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 07:15 PM
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So do you ever ask out guys or do you just sit there and wait for guys to ask you out?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 07:11 PM
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Not all, sure some guys have this old school or antiquated or whatever you wanna call it attitude where they think I guy should pay, or some guys want to do it because they think you're special or whatever, but some guys ONLY do it because they think they have to, because it's expected of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:47 PM
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So then, do you ask if he'll pay or do you just expect it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:43 PM
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You can certainly do that, but you can't then complain that men see you as only using them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:53 PM
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She can set the terms of her acceptance. So can he. "If I pay you have to sleep with me." Would you be fine with that arrangement?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:46 PM
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And why exactly are you entitled to have your meals paid for by another person? Aren't you an adult?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:06 PM
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Take your business elsewhere next time.
/r/MensRights14/03/21 12:37 AM
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Exactly lol they're all cut in pre-fight photos, add 20lbs and you got the weight they walk around at... which is obviously still a perfectly good weight, healthier even.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 10:14 AM
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What is the consequence for you? They blame men as a collective for their problems. They make us the villain, now on a personal scale this isn't an issue but on a societal scale it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 01:08 AM
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/260757343_Advanced_paternal_age_is_associated_with_lower_facial_attractiveness that's the study they refer to in every news article.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 03:20 PM
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oh for sure, several studies say that older fathers make less attractive children.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 12:27 AM
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I feel bad that women have to deal with the biological clock. I can fuck up my entire 20s and still find a good partner if I get my shit together. It's a lot harder for a woman to do the same thing and she's also adding risk because pregnancies get riskier the older the woman is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 08:03 PM
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We're mostly fine tbh. We just have to date later, remember age is attractive to women. You and I can get a younger partner, hell we can even fuck up for our entire 20s and 30s and then get our shit together and still find someone (if you're fine with the stigma of an age gap), women can't do that shit. The wall is undefeated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 03:42 PM
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Do you think the lack of marriage prospects will positively or negatively affect women? Negative. Look at all the single women in their 40s, they're not exactly the happiest bunch. But nothing is gonna happen in society, sure birth rates will drop, but our politicians are just gonna import people from the third world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 03:40 PM
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oh Ya crazy is just the term we choose to use, it's not malicious, it's like when y'all say "all men are stupid", obviously not, but when something seems obvious to you it may look like he's stupid for not getting it. Men=stupid, Women=crazy. There we go equality lmao. True, true. But you won't even try to keep an open mind and maybe attempt to care about/discuss/participate in your partner's interests if they do it for you? 😻 I wasn't referring to interests lol (obviously anyone should try to k…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 09:23 AM
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Like really, all of them? Yes all of them, but not because of their behavior in a relationship context, but because they're women. We're bad with words, we already know. Everyone has heard the "don't stick your dick in crazy" but "all women are crazy" so don't have sex at all? No, it's just that we're VERY inconsistent with words, they've never been our strong suit. Are you sure you're not the common factor or weren't the issue at all? That applies to women too lol. "All my exes are assholes" hm…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 07:58 AM
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Why would my standard be lower for a person who will have a bigger impact on my life? No but here's the thing about men. If you value birthdays, you need to TELL him, in literal terms, not hints, no nothing. You can't assume he knows. For years now we've been told that women want equality, but you don't realize what equality means to us. Let's use an example. To a man, his own birthday is pretty much irrelevant, therefore he will not expect of you, that you care about it. Since you he doesn't ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 07:51 AM
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Romancing someone isn't about YOU it's about them. It's about BOTH of you, it's about compromise. Again, did you not read "Men who listen..." All men are willing to listen, but you need to understand that when you tell him something that you WANT, you NEED to frame it in a way where he KNOWS that you require that from him. Men and women clearly communicate VERY differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 07:46 AM
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Anyone who ends a relationship by cheating is at fault. Wrong. Cheating is clearly wrong, but being cheated on doesn't absolve you of your sins. In the given example where it is the woman's fault and then the guy cheated, he imo should have just left. But to say that it's suddenly his fault is stupid and wrong. The cheating in the example would have occurred at a point where the relationship was beyond fixing from the man's perspective. Again, he should have just left, but him cheating does not …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 07:39 AM
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Uhm idk if you know this but woman on man violence exists and it occurs at higher rates than you think. And he can almost never report it because of the stigma and because HE will be the one to get arrested.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 07:33 AM
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You're treating those as equivalent communities when they're all quite different. Admittedly I know the least about RedPill so I'll just talk about incels and MGTOW here. MGTOW is literally Men Going Their Own Way. They do not wish to have relationships with women, like at all. They see the flaws of women as products of nature so they don't blame them, they just disregard them as rational actors. Incels are quite varied, there are the ones who as you say everything is women's fault, but from wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 07:31 AM
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She's incapable of understanding how we men USE the word crazy. We don't go by dictionary definition. You need to understand this. Crazy just means irrational. And we label every woman as crazy, it's not meant as a pejorative. We label you crazy because you care about things that seem completely irrelevant to us, you expect us to be mind readers, you expect us to to function think like you, you expect us to perceive the world the same, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 07:24 AM
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gorgeous hotel bar rooftop in Bangkok That's entirely subjective. Just because you deem something to be romantic doesn't mean he will. You are not the arbiter of what is and what isn't romantic. Even those who do grand gestures often get it wrong because they don’t pay closer attention to what their partner really wants. YOU are supposed to tell him (and I do mean literally, we don't do hidden meanings and subtle hints). Men are not mind readers, once you learn this life will be easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 07:18 AM
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Surely men maintain their friendships somehow? Shared interests and time spent together. Also you need to understand that men and women care about ENTIRELY different things (which is why you can't just do stuff he doesn't care about and then think you're doing a lot more than him when the things you're doing are entirely irrelevant to him thus the spent effort appearing equal in his eyes) . And if you don't know whether he cares about something... ask. And if you're not sure whether he knows som…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 07:15 AM
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Worse lol, since when? Public schools are zoos, no one cares about bullying there, at least in private schools you'll be heard out if you're being bullied because they care about your parents wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 05:32 PM
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You're treating men and women as stereotypes and not as people. Women: "Hurr durr all men are slobs" Men: "Hurr durr wife keeps nagging me" Reality is more complex than that. First of all, don't you wanna get married to a person because... you like to spend time with them? And second of all most living spaces have enough room for you to isolate, or decorate differently, and if yours doesn't then getting a second house or apartment isn't an option either. If you can't even compromise on decoratio…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 07:50 PM
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Would you date a woman taller than you? Yes. Is there a cut-off limit (ie. she must only be taller than me by <3 inches)? Yes, if she reaches the height where even men would be described as 'freakishly' tall. Idk like 6'5 maybe. Is it a negative point in anyway? Not for me. She might feel like she can't wear high heels because of how she thinks I might feel, but that issue should be resolved quickly given that I wouldn't care. I mean she's already taller, what's a little more height anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 07:36 PM
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