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I guarantee you this isn’t the case. I know several women who have horrible experiences turning men down when asked out. They get threats, they get stalked. They’d much rather just agree to get out of the situation and let you down over time rather than deal with what could happen. It’s really hard for men to understand this as most of the time we are doing the chasing but ask any girl you know and most of them will have horror stories about dudes being super aggressive when it come to asking th…
/r/seduction20/08/20 03:27 AM
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Not wanting to turn someone down. There are a number of reasons women feel compelled to agree to a date they dont really want to go on, and for them its easier to just slowly try to fade away rather than say "i'm not interested"
/r/seduction20/08/20 03:09 AM
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I get that, but I’m talking trying to convince a girl to even go out on a date. If she agrees to a date and then is lukewarm by all means pour on the charm, but I’m not into trying to game that much just to get a date confirmation. That’s all I’m saying.
/r/seduction04/10/19 04:43 AM
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But like. Fuck with enthusiasm is way more fun that fucking with reluctance.
/r/seduction04/10/19 02:26 AM
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But like, why would you want to go out with some one who is feeling a 5-6 about you? Sure you can talk your way into a date, but that doesn't feel good.
/r/seduction03/10/19 06:58 AM
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Why do you care about social media attention if you are getting real life attention? I don't add anyone to instagram, i have like 20 pending requests, cause I don't really use it. Also your post is very self-centered Now to be fair this girl is incredibly shy and on social media I haven’t see her add any boys either on fb/instagram, but still why give signs that you even want to be friends when you’re going to totally blank me like that? It’s really not fair for me, I don’t wanna play games like…
/r/seduction11/09/19 07:58 PM
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You got downvoted because The Game is Mystery Method, as it was written about Mystery himself. You sure you read that?
/r/seduction10/09/19 08:46 PM
6

Your texting game is horrible. You just ask the same bland questions any other dude would ask, but hey you got a date. Take her out, have fun, try to stand out.
/r/seduction05/08/19 08:40 PM
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Oh sorry about the name, I can't read good. Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I agree there is a line between being respectful and being effective. I think you did a good job in your original post. high five bro!
/r/seduction18/07/19 06:51 PM
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I'm not too fond of "aggression" as a term for whats going on. I'd prefer something like "action". Over the years I'm trying to be more contentious of what our objectors say about the way the seduction community is perceived and I think this is one of those areas we can improve on. Aside from that I love this write up! Great job Jim!
/r/seduction18/07/19 02:24 PM
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Plenty of women give excellent dating advice. How about "Don't be a sexists shitbag"?
/r/seduction10/07/19 03:38 PM
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I've been posting on here since 2008, in the pick-up community since the beginning of altfast. Trust me there are plenty of women in this community who give very sound advice, not all of them are publicly women because of responses like the one you have given. Yes there is a myriad of bad advice out there, coming from all sides. The value of advice should be in its merits alone, regardless of what gender the giver is.
/r/seduction17/06/19 06:10 PM
1

Yeah that phrase is stupid in regards to, like you said, this forum; as the women who post here are extremely insightful and have great advice on how to pick up women. Also plenty of men can give shitty advice and it's sexist to assume that they don't have them.
/r/seduction17/06/19 06:04 PM
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He's ignorantly closing himself off from an entirely different view point, one that could greatly benefit him in a very rude fashion. I can safely assume anyone that would put "MALE REPLIES ONLY" in the top of their post isn't trying to "self correlate" but rather just being a dick. And based on his replies to our posts, I'd be correct.
/r/seduction17/06/19 06:00 PM
10

baby face :-P
/r/seduction17/06/19 04:45 PM
9

A) That's not an insult, it's self depreciation. She's complimenting you. B) Get that sexist "only men's replies" out of here.
/r/seduction17/06/19 04:37 PM
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Go for it.
/r/seduction12/12/18 07:54 PM
3

I mean, you can clearly see the problem, she posted your number on IG.
/r/seduction12/12/18 07:51 PM
4

Only you will know is to try it see. Be less focused on outcomes and more focused on having fun flirting with these girls and see how far that will get you.
/r/seduction11/04/18 04:51 AM
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"Be yourself" means "Stop trying to be what you think other people want, instead be the best version of yourself and give that to everyone around you" Too many guys in the game try to say and become whoever or whatever they think the person they are talking to wants. "Be yourself" doesn't mean "Don't try, don't improve, don't get involved"
/r/seduction30/03/18 02:02 PM
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Owen (Tyler) often comes to Atlanta to do bootcamps. I see him running around Buckhead every few months shooting. Some of it's real, some of it's made up. Also 50 isn't a very high number.
/r/seduction21/02/18 10:42 PM
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You'd be surprised.
/r/seduction24/10/17 05:03 PM
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"Hey i thought you were cute so i wanted to come over and introduce myself" is a far cry from "Omg you are so fucking hot, i'm super lucky to have met you" Do the former, avoid the later.
/r/seduction24/10/17 02:07 PM
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Lol false.
/r/seduction27/07/17 11:22 AM
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I was probably hitting around 50-60 a week back in the day. But mine was just flirting/hitting on everyone around me.
/r/seduction21/07/17 07:43 PM
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Cute will get you laid just as much as hot/sexy. Nothing to worry about. But putting on muscle will greatly increase your attractiveness.
/r/seduction14/07/17 02:36 PM
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A+ Post.
/r/seduction28/06/17 09:04 PM
1

Are you saying you've read (past tense) those books or asking which one you should read (present tense)? Models, then go to a bar and chat up poeple.
/r/seduction22/06/17 02:16 PM
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ITT: Butthurt, butthurt a mile long. Woujo bringing the pain.
/r/seduction22/06/17 01:42 PM
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Less respect. More pedantic correcting someone wrong on the internet. I am nerd, hear me roar.
/r/seduction01/06/17 11:07 AM
4

Hot Babe. Not Bitch.
/r/seduction01/06/17 02:29 AM
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LET'S GET WEIRD!
/r/seduction31/05/17 01:46 PM
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Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, and Dylan. Because he spits hot fire.
/r/seduction31/05/17 01:46 PM
1

Ask questions or tell stories.
/r/seduction26/05/17 05:48 PM
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I like the content supplied by the post body, but honestly you just need the title. It says it all. If you have the ask, the answer is no.
/r/seduction23/05/17 05:34 PM
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It's not a problem and it's exactly how I felt (when i was single). I didn't really care about f-closing compared to cutting jokes and making girls laugh. Once you become successful you realized it was just the confidence to not NEED women is what you were searching for. Enjoy your new found perspective and focus on only going after girls you feel very strongly for.
/r/seduction12/05/17 02:58 PM
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Oh yeah non-verbal is key and if he's giving tips on that then cool. Use to be a time you could talk in between songs/sets but most clubs play one long continuous stream of music/noise so it's hard to even do that anymore.
/r/seduction12/05/17 02:14 PM
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Can't watch the video at work but I'm hoping this is just 7 minutes of the guy dancing and smiling and having fun, because trying to communicate in a loud club is pointless.
/r/seduction11/05/17 09:16 PM
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Cough, cough, cough
/r/seduction26/04/17 02:21 AM
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He actually did something similar to me about two years ago on a bootcamp in Atlanta. Never grabbed her but stood in her way and asked her what she was up to and if she wanted to hang out with him, all while she was holding my hand. I immediately recognized him and put my arm around his shoulder and asked him how the bootcamp was going. He laughed and said it was okay. Patted him on the back and said "Good to hear, hope you're doing well" (we use to argue incessantly back and forth on the forums…
/r/seduction10/04/17 06:00 PM
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Not cringeworthy at all. You're joking and having fun. Nothing to worry about man.
/r/seduction30/03/17 04:54 PM
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!) Stop using the phrase "slide into DMs" 2) Ask her the fuck out on a date
/r/seduction24/02/17 07:50 PM
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Excellent post. A mantra I've been trying to cultivate for a while here. Seduction should be about fun, for you, for her. The second it becomes adversarial, you need to take a step back and reevaluated.
/r/seduction30/01/17 09:14 PM
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If you open with that sort of comment, you need to understand the likelihood of it not working out. By posting here it means you really didn't think your comment was over the top, which it most certainly was. Leading with Mrs. Robinson is akin to an apoc opener. Which is fine, as long as you know are aware of that. Most older women probably won't respond well to mentioning that out of the gate, and you should know that. EDIT - WHOOOPS my bad. I missed that you are actually using her last name. I…
/r/seduction24/01/17 04:45 PM
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EDIT - The advice below was for my misread thinking OP said "Mrs. Robinson", a line from the coming of age movie "The Graduate" where a young Dustin Hoffman seduces the much older Anne Banecroft. For my advice tackling the issue of OP using the woman's last name go here Dude...wtf in your mind makes you think it's okay to OPEN with Mrs Robinson? Save that shit for after you hook up with her and have developed that type of rapport.
/r/seduction24/01/17 03:29 PM
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"I have a boyfriend" means "I'm not interested". Have I slept with a girl who has said that? Sure. But that doesn't mean I continue to escalate. The second I hear that I back off on the seducing and act more platonic while still having fun and being entertaining. The problem with the ideology of "it's a shit test" implies you need to need to keep escalating and kino and all that, and that's not necessarily the case. This isn't Glengary Glenross, you don't have to always be closing.
/r/seduction20/01/17 03:44 PM
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"Messing" with you as in playfully teasing? No. She is most likely trying to get a rise out of you. Or it could actually be a mistake. Either way you have to ask yourself do you want to continue seeing this girl
/r/seduction31/12/16 12:53 AM
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To be petty? To test you? Doesn't matter her reason, do you want to be with someone who would do this? Probably not. So she saved you time finding that out.
/r/seduction30/12/16 10:21 PM
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The strip. Go there. Talk to people. Have fun.
/r/seduction30/12/16 10:18 PM
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Step 1) Find chicks with better attitudes. Unless you really enjoying fucking with people for your entertainment, which I do as well, this stuff can be exhausting and not worth your time. Not all attractive girls are going to have bad attitudes and most guys are better off bailing and finding approachable women to talk to.
/r/seduction16/12/16 08:41 PM
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This is a terrible reason to get into pick and pursue women. Seeking validation through other people will leave you lonely and hurt. You need to learn to love and appreciate yourself first.
/r/seduction15/12/16 05:11 AM
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The Game probably shouldn't be read to learn pick up, but more to learn about pick up. It's history and some good stories with a few techniques and advice thrown in.
/r/seduction14/12/16 07:17 AM
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Hmm, interesting. I guess I should preface my statment with "In the US".
/r/seduction13/12/16 04:34 PM
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FYI: "Hit you for 6" means you are feeling good. It's a sports metaphor for catching a touchdown.
/r/seduction13/12/16 03:45 PM
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Ah. I see the problem right here. You're a misogynistic dick. How about spend less time judging people for how they chose to have fun and loosen up a bit? Getting you a drink dumbass trashy woman might do you a bit of good.
/r/seduction09/12/16 08:58 PM
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Stop hanging your validation on whether or not you are successful with women. You can't have "picking up women" as your source of happiness. Get a hobby, meditate, go volunteer. The more you sit in the rut and keep doing the same thing over and over again, sarging, the worse off you will be. And EVERYONE can see that coming from a mile away. Take a step back and relax.
/r/seduction16/10/16 03:37 PM
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Excellent advance. Couldn't have said it better myself.
/r/seduction16/10/16 03:26 PM
1

Then they learn the hard way. Sometimes sending bad texts and learning is the only way.
/r/seduction11/10/16 07:57 PM
2

Yeah the fuck it response in this scenario is "cool, cya Saturday!" Taking the time to write that 4 sentence text is most certainly NOT "Fuck it" material.
/r/seduction11/10/16 04:46 PM
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Fuck it with text ISN'T 100 words. That's too much. Fuck it in terms of text is "Hey lets go shitty and watch Top Chef" instead of crafting a clearly worded text that takes you 20 minutes to make. It's about going with your gut and not spending more than a minute building texts.
/r/seduction11/10/16 04:25 PM
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HAHAHA I'VE DONE THIS! Making fun of our community to disarm chicks who question what you are doing. It's the fucking best. And mentioning the Game. I love this vid. Good job dude.
/r/seduction11/10/16 04:07 PM
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HAHA You should absolutely send all of those text if you mean it and they represent who you are as a person. If those texts turn the girl on: HEY YOU GOT A MATCH!. If the turn the girl off, that means she doesn't fit with your personality. Stop trying to tailor everything you do to to suit every little situation. Fuck It has been and will always be the best way to go about getting girls. Now keeping them, well that's a different story.
/r/seduction11/10/16 02:47 PM
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False. "Fuck it, ill just send it" is the only way to do things. Stop second guessing your shit. If a girl rejects you from analyzing your text messages, that goes in the W column for you.
/r/seduction11/10/16 03:55 AM
2

This is bad. This is very bad.
/r/seduction05/10/16 07:43 PM
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You should stop worrying about what kind of image you are putting out with your texting and just fucking text whatever, whenever you want, and see what happens. Trying to play mental gymnastics about the rules and regulations of "text game" is just wasted effort. Think of something to say, send it, and stop giving a fuck. If she responds well, YAY! If not, learn from it and move on.
/r/seduction26/09/16 05:44 PM
1

Holy shit he has a ton of alt accounts. This is kinda sad.
/r/seduction09/09/16 02:59 AM
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I almost never give compliments. And I would never tell a girl she's hot directly like that. Flirt by asking her about her say/life/hobbies and be interested but also challenging. Don't just offer up hallow compliments, but create an environment where if she says somethings that you truly admire or are interested in, tell her that. Not being creepy is all about being laid back with your id and being comfortable with the inherent awkwardness of starting up an empty conversation with a stranger. D…
/r/seduction09/09/16 02:56 AM
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Por que no los dos? I am super flirty and sexually charged and I make a ton of girl friends, and I get laid too. Being flirty and stating your intentions right away doesn't prevent you from being friends with girls.
/r/seduction08/09/16 09:13 PM
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The best part about your post is emphasizing you are dealing with individual women and not a statistical aggregate. That's what I think holds many men back. Many of the guys I talk to what to know how to talk to all women, or want that silver bullet and fail to realize that each encounter, each conversation is with a person who has their own unique personalities and idiosyncratices. We do need a post that reminds us we are dealing with individuals. Kudos to you.
/r/seduction05/09/16 11:30 PM
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Kinda. Looks matter to a degree, but nearly as much as everyone wants to believe. You can be average looking and still pick up girls. But being attractive helps.
/r/seduction25/08/16 01:18 PM
1

You could always ask. Remember many people use "ghosting" as the "polite" way to break off something. It avoids, what appears to them, as an awkward conversation where she has to say "Thanks but no thanks". Also many girls experience rebuttals and even hostile replies when they let down a guy, so many women have been taught the best way to break up with someone is this way. A few assholes out there ruining it for the rest of us.
/r/seduction23/08/16 01:07 PM
1

Time Stamp of girl in thumbnail.
/r/seduction23/08/16 05:22 AM
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If things were actually going well, you'd get responses. This is your clue that things didn't go well, and your date(s) wasn't (weren't) as successful as you thought.
/r/seduction23/08/16 05:10 AM
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The best way to test this is swipe right to everything and see what happens then.
/r/seduction21/08/16 06:03 PM
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We are talking about one in the same. Don't use text to flirt, use text to meet up and establish plans.
/r/seduction07/08/16 09:18 PM
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If you are playing the game soloy texting you are putting yourself against a wall. Get out of your phone and go meet people in real life, using texting as a means to an end. Constantly texting back and forth trying to build attraction is a losers games. Instead of trying to get good at texting, just text less. That's all. Text to meet up, don't flirt through text.
/r/seduction07/08/16 09:11 PM
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Because cold reaction openers while wearing a suede top hat isn't what we want to be teaching new guys.
/r/seduction03/08/16 06:43 PM
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If you are asking the question, you are probably socially inept.
/r/seduction27/07/16 07:08 PM
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When you say "Like" do you mean "be attracted to me" or "enjoy my personality"? If you are as physically displeasing as you say, then you really need the later for any hope of the former. The best way to start a conversation is to ask the person what their interests/hobbies/passions are. That gets them something to talk on while you can listen and find things to either you can relate to (and then you talk about) or ask more questions and go deeper in the conversation. But the key takeaway is to …
/r/seduction14/07/16 04:49 PM
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physical inactivity...gained a lot of weight Bro..fix your diet. You can keep the weight off by just eating right. Aside from that, just talk to her. People aren't going to stop talking to you because they don't find you attractive. If they don't, do you honestly want to be friends with someone who treats others like that? Take control of how your build your circle of friends. That includes rejecting people who don't meet your standard of respect.
/r/seduction14/07/16 04:04 PM
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This is NOT the kind of girl I expected that from. You absolutely need to banish this thought from your brain. Any girl is capable of going wanting to go home with you at any point during the date. Sectioning off promiscuous behavior to "those types" of girls is misogynistic and unhelpful to you. Other than that, good job man.
/r/seduction14/07/16 01:21 PM
6

He literally they look like how homosexual males look at a club. Not "less than". Go read that part again. He clarifies. He isn't insulting them.
/r/seduction27/06/16 01:38 PM
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Stop dating girls whose main social activity is "bars and clubs". You can literally do ANYTHING else other than "get a drink". And you should tell girls that. "Hey let's go to this park/bowling alley/putt putt/museum/restaurant".
/r/seduction26/06/16 04:51 AM
1

"Borrowing abundance from the future" I like that. Kinda like when people saying drinking alcohol is like borrowing happiness from tomorrow. Although i didn't watch the video.
/r/seduction26/06/16 04:44 AM
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The hardest part about beginning this journey is believing that I am worthy of having beautiful women in my life... my value has nothing to do with the desires of beautiful women. FTFY
/r/seduction24/06/16 04:47 AM
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You realized that being rejected isn't the worst thing in the world and that worring about it and letting it affect you only limits you. So when we say "I don't give a shit" what we mean is "I will not be bothered to be rejected because I am comfortable with who am I"
/r/seduction31/05/16 08:40 PM
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Just you. It's SOOOO much easier.
/r/seduction26/05/16 03:40 PM
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'Do you want to come in to my place?' You nailed it. Just ask man. "Hey I had a great time tonight, want to continue this back at my place?"
/r/seduction20/05/16 03:10 PM
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Probably one of the better posts in the past 2-4 months. Excellent job my friend. Glad to see people out there doing and reporting what works for them with real, down to earth advice. UPBOATS!
/r/seduction19/05/16 02:00 AM
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Bro you are so ugly i don't think we can help. Might as well quit and buy some cats.
/r/seduction13/05/16 02:45 PM
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And what quality posts have you made in the past 6 months? It's easy to say "OH THIS SUB SUCKS" but what you should be doing is making submissions to improve the quality of the sub-reddit.
/r/seduction28/04/16 06:59 PM
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He asked for a opening line, i gave one. There isn't much clarification beyond that.
/r/seduction22/04/16 06:02 PM
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"If I was on fire, what object do you have around you that could put me out?"
/r/seduction22/04/16 02:45 PM
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Man I was all over asf.
/r/seduction16/04/16 03:14 AM
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This is why we need the verification tag. At least verified historians that were around at the time of the IRC channel and old website, who know facts and context and can advise the newer guys. So I don't have to sigh to myself that you of all people are getting downvoted for being factually correct.
/r/seduction16/04/16 01:38 AM
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And we are saying is that Mystery did invent the version of the scale the seduction community at large uses. The HB scale. It's not about pure physical attraction. It's not the same as "Dude look at her she's a total X" two different scales based on two different criteria. There is a social hierarchy, this is a fact in a social science, something Mystery has been a part of since the very first [FR] on alt.seduction.fast. Subcultures are no more immune to this than any other social strata. And "w…
/r/seduction16/04/16 01:36 AM
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Yeah...no. Nothing what you said is close to being correct.
/r/seduction15/04/16 04:27 PM
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Not the HB scale we use in this community. That was a spin on the prototypical 1-10 scale of hotness. Throw is correct.
/r/seduction15/04/16 04:25 PM
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You mean you don't want to go cruse on my yacht. PSSSHH That's good, it's awesome you have pictures that capture your cred. How is the nerd demo in your hometown?
/r/seduction31/03/16 06:46 PM
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My account is no longer active as i'm in a LTR, so i can't see any of your pictures, but everything looks great. Your profile reads like a nerd's wet dream. That's cool, I'd probably message you because you said you were down with casual and you're attractive, and I could bounce ender's game quotes off you. That being said it does, in my opinion, seem a little too sculpted. I only say that because of the (bullshit) backlash women can get for "pandering" to the now "it's cool to be a nerd" bandwa…
/r/seduction31/03/16 06:30 PM
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Wow you are getting some serious hate. I think this is a great fucking write up from a person who is honest about themselves and isn't afraid to say it. Kudos to you. Now post your profile LOL!
/r/seduction31/03/16 05:42 PM
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This works in the general case. Esp when women give bad/generic advice. This fucking amazingly sound and self-aware advice.
/r/seduction31/03/16 05:06 PM
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What new methods are there? Human's have been fucking for thousands of years. We don't come up with new methods, we talk about and distill the same thing over and over again. You'll discover there is more to life than picking up women. And then all the PUA tricks in the world won't help you. Focus on your own happiness, cultivating your own identity, and then all the tricks in the world won't matter.
/r/seduction16/03/16 09:17 PM
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They are fun, but i wouldn't rely on them, unless your endgame is merely to chase skirts. I think for many of us, we want love and companionship. That takes more than tricks and mind games.
/r/seduction16/03/16 09:15 PM
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Lol there isn't much "new" to learn. All the ground breaking techniques and revelations have already happened. We've matured as a community, and distilled the message to "Be the best person you can be, be fun, be engaging, and leave her better than you found her." This isn't the sarge heavy, wear a fur hat and try to band everything in a skirt community we once were. We like to talk to everyone, smile at old people, and get the girls number all in one smooth motion. It's not that there isn't any…
/r/seduction16/03/16 01:51 PM
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"Hey, my name is Yokhai and I thought you were super cute and wanted to see how nice you are, do you have time to talk?"
/r/seduction15/03/16 01:26 PM
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You're just picking apart definitions to make content. Confidence, courageousness. We are all talking about the same general qualities. There is no need to set them apart and say one is better than the other. It's all the same.
/r/seduction12/03/16 06:40 PM
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That's what you get for thinking instead of doing. 60% of the time, it works every time.
/r/seduction03/03/16 02:50 PM
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I need a snickers.
/r/seduction29/02/16 02:26 PM
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No. I just get annoyed when people are short sighted.
/r/seduction29/02/16 02:25 PM
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It is very important to choose your words carefully. People (not just girls) can fall in love with the emotions and experiences they have with another. That is a statement I can absolutely support. The phrasing used here is marginalizing and disrespectful.
/r/seduction29/02/16 05:12 AM
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That's a very cynical and mysogynistic way of looking at love. I don't buy that bullshit for one minute. Some of the shit that comes out of RSD is really immature. Girls can absolutely love you as a person. My fiancée loves me when I piss her off and while I'm farting on her. Because she loves me as a person, not a set of criteria or moments of emotion. This is the sort of content that comes from someone who spends too much time sarging and not enough to time cuddling. Please don't make the mist…
/r/seduction29/02/16 01:58 AM
1

This guy....this guy fucks!
/r/seduction29/02/16 01:48 AM
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A girl tried to call me out when I winked at her. Made a big charade about having Tourette's and how she's an asshole for making fun of me. I them told her "nah, I'm just kidding" Probably don't want to take advice from me though. May favorite thing to do is troll the girls I try to pick up
/r/seduction28/02/16 09:59 PM
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There's much more discussion and reason that went into the decision. I don't agree with it. I'm pro-verification. That way when someone posts something against the norm, I, as a verified coach, can tell them they are wrong and let the downvote brigade happen /s Verifcation would just create a environment of "us" vs "them" and that's not the fraternity the mods want to foster.
/r/seduction25/02/16 03:07 PM
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We've discussed this many times. Every time it's shot down. We don't want a flair or title to separate people out. Your advice should stand on its merits alone.
/r/seduction25/02/16 08:19 AM
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In your "insights" you managed to insult three groups of people and assert your new found chosen lifestyle as superior and a revelation. You do have some good points here: Porn wasn't healthy for you, meditation has really helped you. But it gets lost in your heavy handed language, insults, and short sightedness into the processes we've been working on since 1995. We call ourselves artists because seduction isn't a science, it's art. Also it's a very old tongue in cheek in joke that stuck around…
/r/seduction17/02/16 07:57 PM
1

No. That's not what autism is. At all. Social maladjustment can be a symptom of autism but it doesn't define them. You are an asshole. One who doesn't really understand the world around them. Instead of insulting others maybe you should work on having a more positive outlook on life. While you're meditating, think about why you are so judgmental and instead of throwing out topics you aren't familiar with to make points you don't fully understand, you can bring value to the community without bein…
/r/seduction17/02/16 07:33 PM
2

A) Value isn't about your worth as a person, it's about what your bring to the table. Everyone ranks everyone else. To ignore that fact is extremely short sighted B) That's not what autism means and is EXTREMELY insulting and immature response. C) Erotica refers to all flavors of porn. Yes some porn is very fucked up, but others are perfectly respectful and even beautiful. Don't disparage others because you haven't found the good stuff.
/r/seduction17/02/16 07:18 PM
2

I started following the IRC channel, and the main forum at the time: alt.seduction.fast. During college I started helping my fellow nerds meet women at bars and it evolved into getting paid to help guys not be completely socially inept. It grew out of my hands and I didn't want to continue the business so I cancelled that number and walked away from it. Now I just post advice here and help guys I meet throughout my life that need it. I could probably make it a business again but I really don't w…
/r/seduction17/02/16 07:03 PM
2

You lost at me "autistic". Either you are using that word to insult people who talk in terms of value, or you are trying to say that someone with autism only has the options of utilizing what you view as underhanded tactics to seduce women. Either way it's highly disrespectful and derivative. Then you go after people who watch porn. There is plenty of tasteful erotica out there. Not everything is hardcore degrading. I'm happy you found something that works for you, but you def need to get off yo…
/r/seduction17/02/16 06:58 PM
1

Wow he has aged well. I love what he says about relationships. Project Hollywood was a huge learning experience for him, which is awesome.
/r/seduction05/02/16 04:17 AM
3

That she isn't actually kinky, has shitty taste in literature, and wants a guy to spank her.
/r/seduction29/01/16 02:54 AM
4

OP, with regards to the boyfriend comment, you done good. That's exactly what you should do. My comments below are for the reasons why you should do exactly as OP did. I say never treat the BF/Fiance as a shit test. I'm in a LTR, I've watched dudes aggressively hit on my fiancee, even when I'm in the same group. She's politely told them she's engaged, but because she is very friendly and believes in eye contact and being social, these douchenozzles mistake them for IOI's and press even harder th…
/r/seduction22/01/16 02:11 PM
5

This is how it is sometimes, even for those of us who have been successful in the past. Shit I'd say this was about 60-70% of how my average night would go when I was going out 2-4 times a week. But its good to be social, to talk up bartenders and musicians. That's how you build a social circle. That's how you lead an interesting life. What's important is that you enjoy yourself, and your life. Don't get caught up and bogged down by "trying to be pick up women" and let that part be an extension …
/r/seduction22/01/16 12:46 AM
4

"Do they ALWAYS want you to approach them and get their number?" I have no idea Should you approach them and get their number? ALWAYS
/r/seduction21/01/16 11:40 PM
3

Just go to my history and go on and upvote brigade, haha. Also post more comments and advice, it helps keeps the crazies in check.
/r/seduction21/01/16 04:14 PM
5

Yeah, even commenting and giving advice is a chore. So many insecure and inexperienced guys shit all over quality comments because it doesn't validate the narrative they have created in their head.
/r/seduction21/01/16 04:07 PM
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I'm in a LTR so I don't go out any more. But i do post advice and share snippets of my older FR. The problem is that many of the guys who were posting FR got terrible responses and hate mail from people saying they didn't believe them or were bragging. Posting your exploits on a website like reddit can lend itself to hate. It's just not worth it.
/r/seduction21/01/16 03:57 PM
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He might mean sex 3-4 times a week. That's how i translated it in my head.
/r/seduction21/01/16 03:55 PM
2

This is probably the best post on this sub in the past year. Seriously you've done amazing and learned so much. Your second point is something i've been trying to explain to people for so long. You will go far!
/r/seduction29/12/15 10:57 PM
2

Great FT. But what the hell is a 3x year old virgin? Oh wait, you mean Thirty-something year old? I got you. Great FR.
/r/seduction28/12/15 11:16 PM
2

Still applies. There are no limits as long as you are comfortable with what you are saying.
/r/seduction28/12/15 02:40 PM
2

You talk about what is important to you. You talk about what's important to her. Don't meter yourself with what people say you should or shouldn't. You wanna talk about religion, FUCK IT! If it means that much to you go for it. I always talk religion within the first few dates because it matters to me. If someone is going to reject me on that basis, all the better for me. Stick to what you LOVE, and listen to what she loves, and you will either have great conversation or pass on someone that doe…
/r/seduction28/12/15 06:33 AM
5

You say "Sorry you feel that way" and go find another girl.
/r/seduction28/12/15 12:52 AM
4

It could mean ANYTHING. It doesn't matter what it means. Do you want to ask her out? Ask her out. Do you want to do drugs with her? Ask her to do that. Stop trying to decypher the off-handed comments of girls and go for what you want.
/r/seduction28/12/15 12:41 AM
1

Just don't drink that much. I've never gotten so drunk i couldn't remember while partying. I always like to maintain a modicum of control.
/r/seduction28/12/15 12:26 AM
1

Haha. In all my years of day game, I've never been kicked out of a hotel hot tub and then woke up naked on the beach at sunrise with a ONS and an empty bottle of Andre. That's happened to me 3 times in a single summer back when i was clubbing at the beach. That kind of mayhem.
/r/seduction28/12/15 12:07 AM
1

Day game is easier, by far. But night game is so much more fun, for me atleast. I'm with whatutterjapes on this one. The potential for mayhem is much higher after midnight.
/r/seduction27/12/15 11:58 PM
1

I was fucking her roommate. So friends first i guess. When I realized how much of a annoying person her roommate was, I started soling hanging out with her. We hooked up a few times, and liked the situation and rolled with.
/r/seduction27/12/15 11:44 PM
2

Yup. I had that in college. A friend of mine would wing for me and if we were both alone at the end of the night, go home together. We knew we wouldn't work out as a romantic couple so we stayed FWB and just had a ton of fun together. So it's possible, but it's rare.
/r/seduction27/12/15 11:39 PM
0

Yeah that's nothing to worry about. If you are happy with who you are as a person, then fuck the haters.
/r/seduction27/12/15 07:08 PM
1

But it's not mutually exclusive. That's the amazing thing about online dating. You can do both. Spend 20-30 minutes online, then go out and day/night game. Tinder/OKC/POF/HAPPN are just force multipliers.
/r/seduction27/12/15 06:13 PM
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My argument is that she made great points. I didn't offer any opinions/advice to the OP. You made personal attacks through your sarcastic and dismissive language/tone. Calling her honey and implying she doesn't represent all of humanity is extremely disrespectful and doesn't contribute to the discussion at hand. People who say "I'm just being brutally honest" are usually trying to justify a lack of tact and respect. You can state your opinion without the negativity. This sub focuses on positivit…
/r/seduction18/12/15 08:01 PM
8

She gave really good advice. None of the points you make refute her advice, you just throw out personal attacks. /u/Xeydo has some really good insight.
/r/seduction18/12/15 03:41 PM
1

Wouldn't be quick to call it a caricature, Style actually toned down some of the shit Tyler use to say and do. But he was a 24 year old immature introvert that was given the keys to the castle. But yeah, he's grown a ton since then and is really paving a new path towards social and seduction education.
/r/seduction17/12/15 07:10 PM
3

Owen is his real name. Also he is still trying to distance himself from Project Hollywood.
/r/seduction15/12/15 09:31 PM
0

MMM is super super SUPER outdated. Tyler's Six Steps are really just "Stop thinking so much, go talk to her" So follow my two steps. Stop thinking about it. Just walk up and say hi.
/r/seduction15/12/15 09:30 PM
3

Star Wars, always Star Wars Also, i didn't watch this video.
/r/seduction15/12/15 04:28 PM
2

Excellent post my man. This is what we as a community want to do. Help the dudes who have no fucking clue what to do learn how to interact with people, and get the motivation to improve themselves.
/r/seduction14/12/15 02:48 PM
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You know women aren't some wierd exocit animal that we study and publish books on? Anything that would make you insecure and anxious, will make a woman feel the same. Women are people, just like dudes, who have a whole host of problems and dreams and fantasies and desires. It's not for you to try to solve the rubix cube, but to get better at appreciating it.
/r/seduction10/12/15 03:05 PM
2

I noticed you noticing me, so I just want to put you on notice, that I noticed you too.
/r/seduction10/12/15 02:15 PM
4

Super serious.
/r/seduction09/12/15 11:59 PM
1

"Creepy" is an ridiculous notion. At no point in time should you ever meter your actions in an attempt to not seem "creepy". Do your thing, with conviction and poise and don't give a fuck if someone might call you creepy.
/r/seduction09/12/15 11:59 PM
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Fuck that, hold eye contact till she breaks. Even better if you start making funny faces.
/r/seduction09/12/15 06:11 PM
2

Let's go get a drink and makeout!
/r/seduction09/12/15 06:09 PM
3

Just ask her out. You have nothing to gain by draging out the texting, and nothing to lose by saying "hey lets meet up"
/r/seduction08/12/15 08:04 PM
1

You're so money, you don't even know how money you are. I don't have anything to add to this, A+ quality post, so I'll just keep quoting swingers with you. <3
/r/seduction08/12/15 06:40 PM
1

You have to stop looking at these things as shit tests or real. Think of in terms of "what do you want?" Do you want to get more serious? Then go for it. Say something like "You're right, let's do something about it". If you aren't interesting at pushing the relationship further, either ignore her comments, or say something like "Yeah I'm not that kind of guy" Trying to play the mental gymnastics to figure out her meaning is useless.
/r/seduction08/12/15 04:45 PM
0

For example she said she wanted to meet this week, and all I said was cool yeah let me know. Yeah that's not an example of "not being needy", that's an example of "being an asshole" I'm ok with just sleeping with her, but its so much hassle and work I would like to have a girl ready to go more frequently. You still don't get it. And I don't really see anyone here being able to help you until you realize you are not only needy, but an asshole to boot.
/r/seduction08/12/15 04:30 PM
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You don't. YOu just be you and if there is a connection, it will form. What she said was "I'm not attracted to you". No worries, not everyone is going to be. Just keep on doing you and eventually someone is. Then you get to fuck!
/r/seduction21/11/15 08:20 AM
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Dick pic, up the ante.
/r/seduction11/11/15 01:50 AM
0

Flowers, chocolate, moves like Jagger.
/r/seduction02/11/15 04:20 PM
3

Got a twix ice cream bar?
/r/seduction29/10/15 06:09 PM
11

Why are you asking us this? Do you want to go? Fucking go Don't want to go? Don't go We aren't you, we can't make this decision.
/r/seduction29/10/15 04:27 PM
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This is too overboard. You are creating stress for yourself by putting so much emphasis on dating at all. Dating should be a by product of living your life. You pointing out "dating" as the thing that is making you feel unaccomplished is a red herring. I think you need to look deeper and figure out why you can't reconcile your professional live with dating.
/r/seduction27/10/15 03:13 PM
1

Haha, it's one of the oldest ruled games in the world. And one of the simplest. But it's actually funny how your game actually parallels a game of Go.
/r/seduction25/10/15 12:52 AM
4

Bro. Don't date girls that need babysitters. Regardless of who wants him there. Just find another chick.
/r/seduction23/10/15 06:45 PM
23

That's an interesting way to play Go. How do you define points of liberty? Are ko fights renamed to ho fights? Do you award your white bro's some komi points, or come-at-me points for being good sports?
/r/seduction23/10/15 06:41 PM
5

Did you tell her "Hey I peruse the internet looking at advice and techniques for making you want to fuck me"? There is a huge difference between being the cocky-funny dude hitting on a girl, and her thinking you are pick up machine. Also, you gotta stop putting in leading spaces in front of your commas. Makes your post really hard to read. Other than that, stop giving out your number. You should always get her number and text her. You even said it yourself. I use to give out my number like candy…
/r/seduction13/10/15 04:35 AM
1

He use to be a CK model before being an actor. Dude is a high fashion model. One of the best actually.
/r/seduction08/10/15 05:44 PM
1

Not, it won't. Not if you keep your personal life separate from your work life.
/r/seduction01/10/15 02:38 PM
1

Anyone who tries to label anything as "high culture" or "low culture" is an insecure asshole trying to find ways to judge and bemoan others in an attempt to justified his boring life. Don't let anyone define to you want is "low" and "high", unless we are talking drugs. You don't have to follow any of the guidelines and techniques laid out by so called "traditional" PUA's and what not. Just work on your communication and flirting skills. I guarentee there are women out there who would love to tal…
/r/seduction30/09/15 01:58 PM
0

"Eye contact is metaphorically very important"
/r/seduction18/09/15 07:31 PM
1

I don't think you read my sentence correctly. I said unless you are 'a rich person DMing models for appearances', messaging girls on Instagram isn't likely to work.
/r/seduction10/09/15 07:15 PM
3

None, the answer to this is none. DMing hot girls on instagram is a huge red flag of "This guy has no other social life and is forced to hitting on girls on instagram" Unless you are famous, or rich, DMing models for appearances and what not, this has an almost zero chance of working.
/r/seduction10/09/15 03:02 PM
1

What if i like chasing tail and going out on dates? It's one of my favorite past times. (well use to be, i got me a one of them fiancees).
/r/seduction09/09/15 02:45 PM
2

It's not about the mental energy in improving, it the mental energy in checking to see if you have improved. You admit you aren't good with women, or feel you aren't. That's fine, keep working on getting better. But don't let your lack of results affect you. I know it's hard but the whole point of dating is to have fun. Don't get hung up on the lack of relationships and REALY REALY focus on the fun times you spend on the dates you have. If you are constantly looking at the horizon, you will miss…
/r/seduction01/09/15 06:47 PM
2

You just said it "putting in time and effort." Are you reading your own posts? You aren't enjoying yourself. It shouldn't be "time and effort". It should be "I'm going out and have a good time with girls" You can't treat dating like a job or you will become a miser, miserable and resentful of women. The regular guys who don't read this stuff still manage to get women (and make it look easy) so why do some of us still struggle despite working on ourselves and doing the right things to be happy an…
/r/seduction01/09/15 06:01 PM
2

Oh, well then just keep at it. These things happen. Try to not let it get to you.
/r/seduction01/09/15 01:01 AM
3

Lol, you dodged a bullet on that last one there. "Can't date guys she really likes" Eh, stop trying so hard. I never try to get a girlfriend. I focus on my life, and i flirt and go out with girls, eventually one just bubbles up that i'm like, I like you, you like me. Seems like you are trying to move to a serious relationship way before you are ready. Those things take time man. Months I'm talking, not weeks. If you are trying to pull the "be my girlfriend" after seeing someone for three weeks, …
/r/seduction01/09/15 12:41 AM
1

If you have this forum, and can read and understand what's being said online, you don't need the bootcamp. If you have a very difficult time taking what you read and applying it into your real life and are constantly having trouble going out and being social, then it might be worth it.
/r/seduction01/09/15 12:29 AM
2

Just put your arm around her. If she pulls your arm off, that's her saying no. If she leans in closer, she wants it there. That's about all there is to it.
/r/seduction27/08/15 12:50 AM
2

You don't need to blow her socks off. You need to be yourself and vibe with her and see if this is the kind of girl you want to continue seeing. Trying to play an extravagant date that she will cherish is a fools errand. Go out with her, be yourself, get to know her, be objective and enjoy yourself. No need for all the glitz and glamour.
/r/seduction27/08/15 12:49 AM
2

There is no metric for "a good way to approach". You do what works for you. This worked for you. Continue approaching this way and check your success. It also matter that this is the way you like to approach. So many guys use techniques they don't like or aren't comfortable with because they think that whats mPUA's use and that's what they should. Your approach should reflect your personality, and this seem likes it does for you. Good job man.
/r/seduction26/08/15 10:14 PM
1

What opinion are you looking for?
/r/seduction26/08/15 07:51 PM
4

The problem with this topic is something very few people are willing to admit, being in a situation where you could even begin to "game" or "work" a threesome requires luck. It's 95% luck. NO ONE. I mean NO ONE, is going to game himself into a threesome with two straight girls who aren't already interested in the idea. So that means you have to to find two girls, who are both at least open to it. That is the single largest hurdle in getting a threesome. If you're largest obstacle is actually loc…
/r/seduction18/08/15 02:35 AM
1

It could be because you look like their race. Maybe people are judging you as part of their cultural/racial identity. It could be that your look is "in" with their culture at the time. There was a period in the late 2000's where Indian chicks were all going after black guys here in Atlanta. It could be your geographic location. Are you sure that your "swipe-right base" isn't 60-70% of that particular race? Just because your matches stand out to you in one way doesn't mean that your swipe-total d…
/r/seduction09/08/15 03:40 AM
1

She's busy? She left her phone in the other room? She got attacked by bears? There are 2.4 million reasons why she isn't texting you back. Stop getting so hung up on why one girl isn't responding and go get more numbers.
/r/seduction09/08/15 03:14 AM
1

No, it is not normal. At 18 you should be fucking surging with Testosterone. But that doesn't mean its bad. You could be what we call "a late bloomer". I didn't start getting acne till i was 23. Yes, most 18 year old males are just walking boners, but sometimes you won't get that flood of testosterone till later in life, or you might not get it all. Your sex drive may slowly ramp up over the years. Or you could have a psychological condition. I wouldn't be too worried about it at this point in t…
/r/seduction09/08/15 03:03 AM
6

"Hey, I know you, Sarah from spanish right? Oh no? Yeah I know who you are, haha. So how's life?" Nothing changes man. You just talk to them like they are a normal person. Because they are. Unless they are an asshole.
/r/seduction05/08/15 09:28 PM
2

Oh I didn't even notice that it wasn't you. Well this was bad advice. You can replace the instance of "You" with "that guy" in my OP.
/r/seduction02/08/15 09:44 PM
1

Number 3 yes. The others no.
/r/seduction02/08/15 09:43 PM
1

A) Just because you think a girl isn't that attractive doesn't mean you are automatically in. B) Stop rating girls like this C) snapchat her a pick of your dick.
/r/seduction01/08/15 03:37 PM
12

You are what we call an armchair PUA. You are passing out advice for something you've never done before. Because I've done this. Many many times. And the response is fucking abysmal. Giving out your number, and only your number, is a fucking terrible idea that will get you nowhere. None of your justifications make an sense in reality. Women don't give a shit about "a sense of mystery". That shit's for the movies. Get a girls number, call her and ask her out. That's all you need to do.
/r/seduction01/08/15 03:32 PM
8

You posted this in askseddit. Did you not get a response? It means she has a boyfriend and but doesn't mind making new friends. So it means she'd like to be friends with you. How is that difficult to understand?
/r/seduction13/07/15 12:17 AM
2

You to need to add more details to the title of that syndrome. Cause I have it and she is called my fiancee. It should be something like There's this one girl I really like who doesn't really give the time of day but I think if I do X I'll eventually win her over That looks more accurate.
/r/seduction05/06/15 02:44 PM
1

Not only is attraction is possible with a camera invovled, I have gotten MUCH more success when recording either video or audio when I'm out. People like performing. Shrug.
/r/seduction01/06/15 08:05 PM
3

I'm sure you have good advice rolling around in your head. Just make sure you don't get wrapped up in "bro" rhetoric and over hyping your own advice. Present it simply but verbosely with less hype and more practical suggestions. It's not 2004. Dudes aren't trying to get laid TONIGHT! Well they are, but you can't get away with writing that advice, lol.
/r/seduction19/05/15 07:14 PM
3

Lol. That chick is hot. He censors the word fuck by replacing 'u' with 'v'. This article is hilarious. The lines that follow this section When you challenge a girl and she reacts to you. You will know that you’ve reached the Sexual hooking point. are hilarious.....ly terrible. Oh look he used the word congruent. Oh shit I just realized the author of the article is the OP. OP your advice is prototypical PUA bullshit from 2004. Your lines are used and boring, and phrases like "be real and be yours…
/r/seduction19/05/15 06:46 PM
6

She is drunk and keeps trying to send you away and you keep trying to force yourself in her place. Do you not see how fucked this is? Like, this is really fucking bad. "Saw whatever it takes to get inside"? What the actual fuck man? Stop trying to finagle your way in to girl's bed any way you can. That's how you get a restraining order filed.
/r/seduction14/05/15 05:15 PM
3

How is this autistic? Have you ever been around people with autism? Or are you just spouting rhetoric that you've heard before disparaging selection of the population with a mental disorder?
/r/seduction13/05/15 04:20 PM
1

I'm saying you shouldn't dedicate your mental faculties worrying about how to avoid these types of women as they are not common place at all. It'd be like reminding yourself to avoid lions (assuming you don't live in Sub-Sahara Africa). I mean yeah, in practice you don't want to go toe to toe with one, but since the chances of that occurring is very slim, why bother thinking about it at all? 99% of women will be selective, but they aren't trying to manipulate you. Now that statistic is shifted w…
/r/seduction13/05/15 04:17 PM
0

Lol @ "Avoid Manipulative women that test excessively" Do you have first hand experience with this? I've been running the night clubs and bars of Atlanta for over 4 years and only come across 3 or 4 girls who would fit under that category. Those types of people are few and far between, also it tends to be the males that exhibit those traits way more than women. This sub is def skewed when it comes to "shit tests" and "manipulative women" simply from a lack of experience. Keyboard jockies trying …
/r/seduction13/05/15 03:47 PM
4

Ignore him while physically moving the conversation to another place. If he follows, you tell him you are hanging out with your friends and that you would like to keep things private. If he insists on being "That guy" get a staff member involved and have him removed. I've had a few guys kicked out of bars that were being super aggressive with their pick up style. No need to get into a fight as long as the dude doesn't cross any physical boundaries. (I've also gotten into fights with guys who hav…
/r/seduction11/05/15 05:12 AM
6

I don't think you've read enough xkcd to understand who that girl is. She isn't just a random "mean girl" he is using as a plot device. She exists in his cannon as the female "Hat guy". She is crass, insanely smart, and I believe psychic. Randal isn't trying to make a sweeping generalization in the final panels, he is just setting the punch line with a known character.
/r/seduction11/05/15 05:01 AM
13

You are paranoid because of your success. I've fucked girls who I found later had boyfriends. I've seen the dark side of the hook up scene and I know that there are some people out there who are just selfish assholes when it comes to monogamy and casual sex. You just have to trust your girl. You need to know and trust that you have built a relationship on a solid foundation. People stray in relationships for many reasons, very few you have any control over. You need to have a solid conversation …
/r/seduction11/05/15 03:40 AM
1

Then you talk to her about it.
/r/seduction11/05/15 03:35 AM
3

That's because, like any resource distribution, there are a few guys fucking most of the girls. When I was using i fucking cleaned up. Well over have the ONS that resulted from matches I heard "I don't normally do this" or "Just so you know, we aren't hooking up tonight" so i know there is plenty of LMR out there. You just have to learn how to deal with it as it comes up throughout the date. I can tell you being respectful and outcome independent will go along away. Usually when a girl says some…
/r/seduction11/05/15 03:33 AM
-1

Why you need to stop using the word friendzone? It doesn't exist, it's a made up thing guys who got rejected invented to deflect disappointment on the rejector. However, making friends with hot girls is a great idea for some of the reasons you mentioned.
/r/seduction11/05/15 03:23 AM
1

You shouldn't be friends with anyone if you don't want to. We are just saying female friends offer a much different dynamic than your male friends. If you find yourself in a position to have a friendship with a woman go for. That's all.
/r/seduction06/05/15 09:05 PM
2

Then you are missing the key difference. You treat C the same, but because you are interested in her, you take her out on a date. There is no such thing as the friendzone. As long as you are interested and attractive (not just phyiscally) you can turn on the "lets go out on a date" card instantly. The friendzone doesn't exist. It's a place guys made up to handle being rejected by girls. I've never been in the friendzone. I've been rejected hundreds of times. What matters is how you handle that r…
/r/seduction06/05/15 03:36 PM
2

What? Explain that one to me better.
/r/seduction06/05/15 03:24 PM
5

lol this guy coming into this sub to make fun of this sub.
/r/seduction06/05/15 02:58 PM
1

A) Stop using the phrase "friendzone", it is a useless notion that has no place in /r/seduction. B) The reason you don't get what we are saying is located directly in your second paragraph. You are hanging out with your female friend because you aren't interested in them. They are just friends, who happen to be female. You aren't trying to fuck them (though that might happen). You keep them around because you have fun with them and get along with them. From your words alone i can tell you don't …
/r/seduction06/05/15 06:52 AM
92

FUCK YEAH BRO! Soon you'll be getting your hands all up in that bra!
/r/seduction06/05/15 05:52 AM
3

Shit yeah dude. Females are people too. And you have the most amazing relationships with female friends. They are much more intimate and personal than your guy friends. You can plutonically cuddle while you watch TV and analyze the crazy girls you've been hooking up with. You can be her fake boyfriend when creepy dudes hit on her. I love my female friends. Also, a female on equal skill as a male wingman, will absolutely crush the male counterpart as a wing. They are like having a fucking skeleto…
/r/seduction06/05/15 05:49 AM
3

"I'm batman"
/r/seduction06/05/15 05:02 AM
2

This mentality is exactly why we have all the bullshit involved with dating. Slut shaming a girl for making out with a guy she is attracted to makes other girls not want to make out with guys they are attracted to. Stop bringing them down. Dick
/r/seduction03/05/15 04:59 PM
3

EA Sports!
/r/seduction03/05/15 04:56 PM
1

I'm a supreme extrovert. You have to learn to meter and channel your impulses. Learn to turn funny into smooth by completely smashing any notion of what "smooth" typically means. Real smooth, natural born killer smooth, Michael Jackson smooth, is confidence and self assurance in all facets of interaction. Focus on the fun, the entertainment, and remember statistic show women prefer the comedian above all other types of men. "Just make em laugh"
/r/seduction29/04/15 07:12 PM
9

All you are doing is making excuses. You can make up any excuse in the world to avoid the work it takes to change yourself for the better. First things. Stop doing what you just did. Stop making lame ass excuses. I don't give a shit how real you think those excuses are, they aren't. Let go of the bullshit and focus on the fact that you have to ACTIVELY change who you are as a person to be better. You don't like being skinny, go work out. You think your hair is too hard to style, get a hair cut. …
/r/seduction21/04/15 05:32 PM
1

It's not about being polite. It's about trying to not hurt peoples feelings. I'm not interested sounds like "YOU ARE UGLY" Where "I am not available" has nothing to do with the askee.
/r/seduction07/04/15 12:33 AM
4

Yes, that means "IM NOT INTERESTED IN YOU" in a polite way. It doesn't matter if she actually has a boyfriend or not, the fact that she said that to you means "go away and leave me alone" Either way you should move on and find one that is interested.
/r/seduction03/04/15 01:12 PM
2

Universally....right.... That my friends is what we call a red flag. There is no one single thing all women are universally attracted to.
/r/seduction27/03/15 11:42 PM
3

If your nose is as bad as you say it is, I'm willing to bet other peoples reactions have nothing to do with you and your looks. It's an empathetic response to imagining the accident that would cause such a deviated alignment and understanding the pain that must cause. When i see people with fucked up noses, I don't think "wow that person is ugly" i think "fuck that must have hurt" and would touch my nose in the location of the deviation to feel that area and think about sever pain there. And i k…
/r/seduction26/03/15 04:24 PM
1

Either ignore it or accept and amplify. Get into a really indepth convo with her about what it could mean and go over theories. then be like "well I'm here now so fuck that guy, figuratively speaking"
/r/seduction23/03/15 12:50 PM
1

Also many of us have gotten into serious relationships and just dont take the time to post. Ive got a few tinder convos thats im working on turning into a play by play field report but I dont regularly game anymore. Cause of the girlfriend and what not.
/r/seduction23/03/15 12:44 PM
8

Never try to play the "but what does she think?" game. You want to take her home? Man the fuck up and ask her. It's 2015 and it's tinder. She knows what the fuck is up. Trust dude, there are plenty of smart, well adjusted women hoping that the awesome tinder date would just ask her over so she doesn't have to keep dropping signals which will ultimately make her feel "slutty". Never be afraid to ask her home. Worst she can do is say no.
/r/seduction11/03/15 01:58 PM
1

"Hey so you know I ador your vagina. But did you also know I've grown fond of your personality too. How do you feel about us making this a more permanent thing?" YMMV. Something like this fits with my sense of humor so any girl id be FWB with would appreciate it. Mokd this to fit your personality and the dynamic you two have. Above all else be sincere and confident.
/r/seduction28/02/15 01:46 PM
2

Sigh. I don't know why I'm replying to you but I supposed someone has to. Nice neg btw. Lol. Its a fake/parody/satire accout run by a few people.
/r/seduction28/02/15 06:15 AM
1

Holler. When did you become a mod? I liked your post too, you said what i was trying to say better.
/r/seduction19/06/14 06:48 PM
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Yeah...I just said all of that albeit much more succinctly. Did you not read my main post. I said it wasn't a place to have a conversation which is what i meant by run game. With your mouth. Which is what OP was asking about. I gave him advice to start with body language and how to play the scene. But your final edit is better worded. I like how you did that. PS - You shouldn't post as a mod unless you are posting for official /r/seduction business.
/r/seduction19/06/14 06:31 PM
1

Im talking about a very very limited scope scene. Strictly large rave like clubs in European countries, and to some degree here in the States. Normal clubs act very similar to what you are thinking where you can actually talk to people. Read what /u/recyclablebantha said.
/r/seduction19/06/14 06:28 PM
2

Welcome to club/rave scene. That's just how it is with these massive parties. It's not a place to run game, its place to party. If you are attractive and fun and a good dancer and not creepy and there is the right amount of alcohol/drugs/excitement you get laid.
/r/seduction19/06/14 05:48 PM
2

HIGH FIVE!
/r/seduction19/06/14 05:23 PM
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Full blown club parties you don't try to "talk" to girls. You slam shots and dance and rub up next to girls, and when they give you the "im interested in you" eye, you just pull em in and face smash on the dance floor. AKA you are trying WAY to hard in the club scene. Just dance, get schwasted and tongue blast a hottie on the floor.
/r/seduction19/06/14 05:15 PM
8

I enjoyed reading this post. Being genuine and baring your soul to someone you just met can be an extremely attractive quality, given the correct girl. I'm glad you realized that you can be whoever you want to be and as long as you are true to that, you will find success. That's the most important rule.
/r/seduction18/06/14 10:39 PM
3

Wow she tried to be a feminist and slut shame in the same fucking post. TL;DR - You should feel bad trying to shortcut the emotional strings ALL sex comes with for ALL women. Also this girl was obviously a slut with something wrong with her for wanting to sleep with you on the first date. What a moron.
/r/seduction18/06/14 04:56 PM
4

Can anyone repost transcript. Site is blocked.
/r/seduction18/06/14 02:32 PM
2

Do nothing. There is no reason this should even be on your mind. Unless it gets to the point where the guy is harassing your girl to the point she can't handle it, then you can step in.
/r/seduction13/06/14 11:39 PM
2

Think about what you could do. You going to fight the guy hitting on your girlfriend? Are you going to complain to her about something she has no control of? Dude let it go. There is nothing to gain by trying to do anything.
/r/seduction13/06/14 09:12 PM
0

My college was 2003-2008. Must more dick sucking that just straight up fucking, but that was my experience.
/r/seduction12/06/14 07:29 PM
6

Probably not, but you are in the minority. I come WAY harder from a good blow job. Blow jobs rule.
/r/seduction12/06/14 07:28 PM
7

Its a combination of child rearing that teaches women to guard their vaginas and social acceptance of blow jobs as the defacto hook up activity. Being in college in the 2000's was a magical time.
/r/seduction12/06/14 04:36 PM
17

Man being a virgin in college was the BEST. So many blow jobs, so many bitch shields destroyed because they realized i wasn't just trying to fuck them and leave. Yes. advertise you are a virgin. Get tons of blow jobs.
/r/seduction12/06/14 01:48 PM
2

Lol the second you said UCF i was like - Gun, Fish, Barrell. Gaming at UCF is fucking insaine and i love every second of it. My cousin is turning 21 this july and I'm going back to celebrate with him. Should be good.
/r/seduction06/06/14 08:39 PM
0

Okcupid is an AMAZING website as long as you do it correctly. You need to spend the time to answer the quiz questions, and fucking honestly too. Around 500 should be good to get you some accurate results, 1000 for better matches. If you decide to join A-list on OKC make sure you rate every one you see as this will vastly improve your next day recommended matches. Head over /r/OkCupid to get help making a profile and selecting pictures and have fun. The pay sites are pretty much all the same and …
/r/seduction29/05/14 05:30 PM
2

I meant it for anyone. It was the royal you... i think.
/r/seduction15/05/14 12:55 PM
1

No that's the thinking i'm talking about. "cycle her mind goes through" is just fucked up thinking. You can't being thinking about women in that way or you are going to wind up in your own cycle of manipulation and misunderstanding. Bitch shield, while the name is fucking stupid, does exist in some capacity but doesn't apply here at all. She was shit testing him to probably see his sense of humor or to give him an open to ask her out. I read it as very flirty, not apprehensive at all. You are pu…
/r/seduction14/05/14 07:52 PM
2

Except the terminology you used implies a very unhealthy mentality about the exchange that took place. That's what my comment was addressing. Granted just getting a number isn't that big of an accomplishment, but the way you phrased what you did sounds very much like emotional manipulation and a very immature outlook when it comes to interaction. "Wired to sift through guys" "response cycle". The words you use are misogynistic and very outdated thinking.
/r/seduction14/05/14 07:37 PM
18

"shut down sequence" "she is in control" Dude. You gotta stop with this bullshit. We aren't in 9th grade anymore. OP you did fine. Don't listen to advice like this.
/r/seduction14/05/14 06:41 PM
3

If you just say "oh i work in IT" with no follow up that's on you. I can engage a woman in about 15 ways talking about my job that is entertaining and interesting to just about any layperson. If you are a boring person, no amazing sounding job is going to help you out.
/r/seduction14/05/14 04:40 PM
2

There isn't a stigma in working in IT. Any bad looks or reaction to what you say you do is how you say you do it. I work in IT. I've never had a bad reaction to my job. I guarantee you are saying/doing something that is triggering these reactions and it has nothing to do with the job you have.
/r/seduction14/05/14 04:39 PM
8

Yo son its 2014. Texting game is here to stay. Leaving texting to "high schoolers" is like when IBM said "what is an individual going to do with a computer" You are WAY behind the times.
/r/seduction02/05/14 02:19 PM
17

NIGGA YOU CAN DO BOTH. I tinder while i shit, while i'm at work and about to go to bed. I flirt, i build rapport and i set up dates. If you are sitting at your apt at 8pm on a friday night browsing Tinder, you got more problems than that app my friend.
/r/seduction02/05/14 02:18 PM
5

Don't kid yourself, you aren't as good as you think you are. The best of us in this sub have used Tinder to ASTOUNDING effects. It has completely changed the hook up game. You not getting the results you want doesn't mean its bad, it means you are bad at it.
/r/seduction02/05/14 02:16 PM
4

Dude, you are tindering wrong.
/r/seduction02/05/14 02:14 PM
1

Nah brah, it helps get you LAYD. TONIGHT!
/r/seduction02/05/14 02:14 PM
32

It's up to the community to inform new readers of what is considered bullshit as well.
/r/seduction30/04/14 05:40 PM
2

Five bucks says NO ONE approaches her because they think she's out of their league or some other limiting bullshit. Good on you.
/r/seduction29/04/14 03:35 PM
1

Find another one /thread
/r/seduction29/04/14 11:51 AM
1

In other news, water is wet. Back to you bob.
/r/seduction23/04/14 08:33 PM
3

this is complete bullshit advice. I've dated many very attractive girls and "you are gorgeous", esp in the morning, is a winner. The difference is I'm dating these girls, not picking her up. They trust my compliment as genuine.
/r/seduction23/04/14 08:02 PM
4

If you don't use tinder for awhile, when you next log in, all the girls that swipped right to you will be up front. So if you wait a week, log in then swipe everyone right, you will get a fuck ton of matches.
/r/seduction18/04/14 02:08 PM
2

looks like i will flirt the same, actually i flirt better than this. Lol.
/r/seduction16/04/14 05:53 PM
1

"Is that your way of saying you want a threesome? At least buy me a drink first"
/r/seduction14/04/14 02:33 PM
2

TL;DR - PEOPLE want what they can't have. FIN
/r/seduction13/04/14 03:42 PM
1

I don't even know what that means.
/r/seduction10/04/14 12:43 PM
1

It wasn't a morality claim, it was him bragging.
/r/seduction09/04/14 01:58 PM
5

In the bowels of alt.seduction.fast He has written more field reports and in-depth analysis of approach techniques than anyone i've ever met. He can tell you the exact percentages that he could get laid at any point in the conversation with a girl. He refused to play poker because he said it'd be like stealing from the casino. The dude is fucking smart. Also neurotic, melodramatic and completely batshit insane. I love that fucker.
/r/seduction09/04/14 03:33 AM
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proves That word doesn't mean what you think it means Scientific experiments support many of the tenants we study, advise and practice because they were devised from scientific methodology. I really don't think people give Mystery and Jeffries the respect the truly deserve. They were very intelligent men who broke down "seduction" on the level of a grant fellowship scholar.
/r/seduction08/04/14 07:00 PM
1

Talk about less cerebral things upfront if you want to cast a wider net. Ease your way into convos like that. Or stop caring about that and just be you and weed out the people that dont like it.
/r/seduction28/03/14 05:48 AM
2

Don't
/r/seduction27/03/14 08:10 PM
1

Fuck the medium. Act how you want. Girl doesn't like it, find another girl.
/r/seduction27/03/14 04:57 PM
2

Just go say hi. You noticed she was by herself and that you wanted to fix that. Don't bring her attractiveness. Then you talk about class and make jokes and what not. The more relaxed and upbeat you are the better received you will be. Focus less on trying to attract her and more on getting her to be comfortable and entertained around you. To many guys try to be the smooth suave guy around really hot girls and they just see right through it. Be goofy, be fun, be different.
/r/seduction27/03/14 02:57 PM
1

tell that to my grandma, saggy tits and dementia.
/r/seduction27/03/14 02:34 PM
1

Ah, so how does one come play on the drunk green screen? I have credentials...and shit Also, that rap with her video. That shit's legit.
/r/seduction10/03/14 08:34 PM
11

I love sluts and I approve this message. Okay just watch your vids. You doin' good shit. Subscribed.
/r/seduction10/03/14 08:12 PM
4

Is it okay? I don't know what you are asking? We have a situation that benefits both of us and we like it. I don't give a fuck what anyone else thinks about it.
/r/seduction07/03/14 08:19 PM
33

My FWB is actively dating guys, she tells me about it all the time. Reenforces my own ego actually. They all sound lame as fuck. They suck up to her, take her out to dinner, buy her shit, then at 11 o'clock she calls me up, we eat left overs, play LOTR risk and fuck on her kitchen counter top. Shrug. Thanks for the crab cakes Topher.
/r/seduction07/03/14 06:19 PM
7

The objects in the cube can be anything the teller wants them to be/represent. Doesn't really matter at that point.
/r/seduction05/03/14 03:40 PM
2

I'm witty as a motherfucker to everyone. Stop giving a shit about looks and focus on enjoying time with people.
/r/seduction27/02/14 03:04 PM
0

Nah bra, no need. There is no such thing as mid game. I said that directly. The rest of just some playful bantering.
/r/seduction06/02/14 11:33 PM
1

That was a tongue in cheek comment about the fact that there is no such thing as a "mid-game". And you just ask for it. It's not that hard.
/r/seduction06/02/14 08:05 PM
2

Because there is no such thing as "mid-game". Either you are seducing, or you are seducing, no other options.
/r/seduction06/02/14 07:55 PM
1

No, it just so happens that prototypical jerks and assholes ALSO adopt similar mentalities that "PUA's" do as well. So there some crossed points.
/r/seduction06/02/14 07:52 PM
0

"LAME!" Then bop her on the head.
/r/seduction19/12/13 03:47 PM
1

Try it and see?
/r/seduction16/12/13 06:37 PM
2

This is probably one of the best posts on this subreddit right now. Everything is laid out easily digestable. Good man. Keep on fighting the good fight. I didn't realize you were a dating coach. I love your website. Great advice and approach on the game. If you guys ever make your way to Atlanta. Hit me up. I'll take you out for a night on the town. We have some great places.
/r/seduction11/12/13 04:42 PM
1

It's a song. Basket Case - Green Day.
/r/seduction11/12/13 04:20 AM
2

People are assholes and downvote anything in sub. Don't worry about it. Anyone downvoting you on content will mostly likely write out what he disagrees with. Random downvotes are from jackenapes.
/r/seduction10/12/13 07:49 PM
25

"TO LISTEN TO ME WHINE!?" Then sing to her. NEXT QUESTION!
/r/seduction10/12/13 06:03 PM
1

This sounds ridiculously complex and pretty useless. Also slightly misogynistic. Just flirt with girls. It's not that hard.
/r/seduction05/12/13 06:15 PM
2

WHy would you push for a relationship with a girl you don't see yourself dating?
/r/seduction03/12/13 09:36 PM
2

What mindset? You want relationships go for relationships, nothing wrong with that. You wont really enjoy a FWB if you really want a relationship. Ain't no shame in it.
/r/seduction03/12/13 09:05 PM
1

Think of the whole "there are some girls worth more than other" as girls that won't flake on you. Any chick that flakes on you gets pitched into the "not worth my time" unless she can come back and make it up to me. Move on dude, she'll let you know if she is interested.
/r/seduction26/11/13 10:02 PM
0

I am one. Buckhead fucking sucks. Highlands is much better. I haven't gone sarging in a very long time though. I'll consider it and get back to you.
/r/seduction18/11/13 08:27 PM
7

Sounds like a standard night, you did well by my not reacting to nosering when you were with glasses. and having quality wingmen make the process SO much better. I'd be proud to go out with you guys. Carry on my brother from another mother.
/r/seduction18/11/13 05:12 PM
2

What chat client is that?
/r/seduction04/11/13 02:54 PM
1

You smile and take it as a compliment. You shouldn't have to do anything unless the guy is aggressively hitting on and being a jackass.
/r/seduction22/09/13 03:32 PM
2

Why do you care to tell the difference, do you really want to date a poor conversationalist? I want to be with someone who is fun to engage and interesting. Either way if she doesn't give back, move on.
/r/seduction30/08/13 05:32 PM
6

This comment section is hilarious. OP's post sounds like he is trying to be respectful and progressive then all his comments reveal he is racists, misogynistic and full of hot air. GJ OP. Never go full retard.
/r/seduction28/08/13 12:56 PM
1

Bravo my man.
/r/seduction19/08/13 10:20 PM
1

Tofu, you done good work. God i need to write more. If you need any analysis, op ed, or just another set of eyes let me know.
/r/seduction16/08/13 04:43 PM
1

HOLY SHIT THAT'S XENA!? God damn she aged well. I love the line "I'd love to waist your time for next few hours" great line.
/r/seduction14/08/13 05:04 PM
15

Some guys only want to deal with women that respond well to this. Seduction isn't about picking up ALL women, just women you want.
/r/seduction13/08/13 01:31 PM
1

Way to over-think things. Occam's Razor. She initially thought the OCD mannerisms were cute and unique. After living with it, they wore thin and the challenges of living with someone with severe OCD became more than she could handle. Not everything has to do with abundance mentality and the bullshit buzz words we use in this sub.
/r/seduction12/08/13 05:12 PM
91

Yo take those photos down dude. Even for a day. That's incredibly rude to post someone's photos without their permission. She is very attractive. Good job on the report, you did very well.
/r/seduction09/08/13 06:52 PM
1

Say "Hey boo, how you doin'?" I have 85% response rate. Also "Come here often" and "Aw you think I'm cute, good taste" all have high response rates. Then i just press any joke or sexual mode i can.
/r/seduction06/08/13 05:14 PM
1

Ah style. I missed that word.
/r/seduction05/08/13 11:15 PM
1

This isn't the Apoc opener....you talked to her for like 5 minutes then kissed her.
/r/seduction05/08/13 09:41 PM
1

MENTALLY! haha
/r/seduction26/07/13 02:15 PM
1

So where is the registration for you to be a wingwoman? Sign me the fuck up! I love your writing style and advice. It's really nice to see a woman being able to breakdown her behavior and shine some lights on things. Good shit.
/r/seduction25/07/13 12:56 PM
1

USE IT! take that shit out and make it your opener for the night. report back later.
/r/seduction25/07/13 12:51 PM
3

someone reads XKCD!
/r/seduction25/07/13 12:48 PM
0

haha you're adorable. We say don't take advice from MOST women. Some women give damn good advice. We aren't a he-man's woman-hatin' club. If a person, regardless of gender, wants to post here with good advice, they will be welcomed. This piece was fantastic. You just had a knee jerk reaction to her gender, which is about as bad as it gets.
/r/seduction25/07/13 12:48 PM
1

people
/r/seduction24/07/13 10:01 PM
1

It was a joke. People need a better sense of humor.
/r/seduction24/07/13 07:42 PM
-14

YO BITCHES BE DRAGONS. They light you on fire if you don't pass enough shit tests or neg correctly. I mean ah...yeah I'm sorry i haven't had coffee yet.
/r/seduction24/07/13 02:21 PM
5

Wow you are way off. This is exactly the type of thinking he is talking about. You are going from one extreme to the other. You have a very jaded view of this whole process.
/r/seduction20/07/13 12:37 AM
1

Looking good dude.
/r/seduction20/07/13 12:34 AM
6

THERE ARE NO RULES! Text whatever the fuck you feel like and guage her responses. Seriously. You can literally say anything once you get a feel for the chick. Every girl is different. Experiment and stop caring so much.
/r/seduction02/07/13 03:43 PM
3

i loved this...
/r/seduction22/06/13 02:47 PM
1

TEXTING AIN'T DEAD!
/r/seduction22/06/13 02:28 PM
0

Nice straw man. What you just said was "he refused to talk to her, and she respected him for that" Its a new age with after 2000 crowd. They've had texting since the they were 8. Its a proper form of communication for them.
/r/seduction22/06/13 02:28 PM
2

He typed "Refused" not me.
/r/seduction21/06/13 02:55 PM
6

fuck deflecting. be like "Yup just got done ring shopping, and we are thinking of naming the her Lacy." Then smile big and change the subject.
/r/seduction21/06/13 02:11 PM
-1

Screw "spoiling the mystery". If a girl wants to chat with you through text messages and facebook, fucking chat with her. You grew up in the technology era where that type of communication is more acceptable in the dating world. Refusing to talk her like that could wind up shooting you in the foot. Good job though.
/r/seduction21/06/13 01:35 PM
1

Yeah. I see so many dudes asking girls to spot them or talk with them while they are doing leg extensions. It's really sad. Glad we are on the same page.
/r/seduction17/06/13 02:35 AM
1

None of that is flirting like what most guys would consider flirting. You are being nice and offering advice and then following up on IOI's. That's what you should be doing. I help everyone at the gym if I think they are going to hurt themselves. If it happens to be a girl and then she responds positively, that's great. I'm talking about actively hitting on girls at the gym. It's rookie and weak.
/r/seduction17/06/13 02:10 AM
2

Yeah that sounds like an out-lire. Glad you took my criticisms well. I wasn't trying to harsh on you, just give your analysis some perspective.
/r/seduction14/06/13 04:37 PM
10

Literally every single girl i know that goes to the gym has been hit on/talked to/flirted with while they are working out and they all hate it, 100% disgusted rate. This isn't some indirect game/day game stuff where you can disarm them and chat them up. Every time you talk to a girl at the gym, she knows whats going on. That being said, you are talking to girls in between classes, which may present some different results. Also that mid paragraph about you trying to analyze getting IoI's is reach…
/r/seduction14/06/13 04:20 PM
3

Yeah you pushed the granny stuff too much. You were in and that second series of texts was just over the top. You kept dropping sarcastic jokes when she clearly didn't want to talk like that, once you had to explain your inside joke you should have dropped it completely. Good job on the actual physical interaction.
/r/seduction11/06/13 06:15 PM
2

No it's realizing what the girl is trying to say to you. Depending on her tone and her behavior she could be afraid of getting played and wants to see if you will stick around after she sleeps with you, or she could be busting your balls to see what she can get away with. You either calibrate your answers to the vibe she is giving out or you just be 100% upfront and honest with her.
/r/seduction24/05/13 06:22 PM
18

Standard "Alpha male" seddit answers - "Do you want a relationship or is this just sex for you?" "I'm keeping all options open right now." "How many girls are seeing?" "200...7....You're a girl?" Big smile kiss her again. "Did you talk tome on the first day just for this" "Well its obvious you did!" "Well how often are we going to hang out" "Not enough for it to get boring?" This is what I would have said. "Do you want a relationship or is this just sex for you?" Check my watch "As of <current t…
/r/seduction24/05/13 04:58 PM
1

Nope. American Girls. Still ignorant, still an asshole.
/r/seduction24/05/13 03:58 PM
3

Being a fake asshole while flirting is cool. Actually making racists comments isn't. The fact you can't see the difference shows the problem here.
/r/seduction24/05/13 01:43 PM
2

Wow you are a dick. That comment about white girls in America.
/r/seduction24/05/13 01:09 PM
3

Probably
/r/seduction20/05/13 08:55 PM
1

Its cool i just had no idea what you were asking. Yes there are certain "techniques" that you can use on POF. Namely cocky-funny text and general teasing games.
/r/seduction20/05/13 06:06 PM
2

With the right chick, that would probably work.
/r/seduction20/05/13 05:09 PM
2

I'm saying that has no relevance to Plenty of Fish. You just said "I can k-close, so can i do that on POF" which is completely non-sequitur.
/r/seduction20/05/13 05:06 PM
2

fuck rules, send whatever text you want, get laid.
/r/seduction20/05/13 04:34 PM
5

This post makes no sense. You can't k-close online. You have to physically be in person with someone to actually kiss them. And you don't "approach" online either. You just send them a message.
/r/seduction20/05/13 04:06 PM
2

Its like saying "I want that one, please don't try to take it/hit on them". Widely known colloquially in the US.
/r/seduction17/05/13 08:16 PM
2

Aw man you are making me want to dust off my notes and write more. I'm throwing money your way. If you ever make it to Atlanta you can come watch me get shut down by uppity former-sorority girls.
/r/seduction17/05/13 01:50 PM
0

This is powerful stuff This is bullshit stuff.
/r/seduction16/05/13 01:54 PM
10

I hate this bullshit. This gets posted like once every 3 months. He has a very negative bias because he doesn't understand what's really going. A broke clock is correct twice a day.
/r/seduction15/05/13 11:27 PM
1

You do know they are all the same right? The only thing "non-generic" condoms offer is different shapes. They are all tested and provide the exact same functionality. Please don't spread this crap around.
/r/seduction14/05/13 03:38 PM
0

What's your favorite dinosaur? If you could be anyone in the world who would it be and why is it my future ex wife? If you were Carmen San Diego, where would you go and what clue would you use to let me find you, naked? Quick, you and I are now spies. Who are we killing and why? Also how are we escaping? I think that dude in the (insert clothing) looks very suspicious.
/r/seduction03/05/13 08:28 PM
2

No problem. I have a few friends in the band and that's how they usually do it. I also get to stay behind and tell all the other girls about "band parties" at my/our place. It's pretty sweet.
/r/seduction29/04/13 01:06 PM
2

leave by yourself and call up who you want to see that night. just be flirty. It will actually be good for all these girls to see you interact with everyone. But at the end of the night. Leave the venue alone, make sure they all see that. Then get the one girl.
/r/seduction26/04/13 07:47 PM
1

Hahaha, i do the exact opposite, really just to my target, if i get the feeling she's been hit on a lot that night. Even if i remember her name, and have been talking with her for like an hour. I will always say "man i feel terrible about this, but what was your name again?"
/r/seduction18/04/13 08:23 PM
2

It's called a joke.
/r/seduction25/03/13 05:32 PM
2

Try therapy. It might be literally all in your head ie chemical imbalance.
/r/seduction25/03/13 03:18 AM
7

Good luck. Try to remember what goes down. I'd never leave the Goliath line...
/r/seduction22/03/13 05:19 PM
5

You don't hook up with hot girls that offer you nothing else? Stop valuing looks over everything else.
/r/seduction21/03/13 02:48 PM
6

I like this sites form, function and pretty lady images. Thumbs up!
/r/seduction13/03/13 03:16 AM
4

This answer is best answer! ALL HAIL NORTH ANSWER!
/r/seduction11/03/13 03:50 PM
2

Wondering is one thing, just make sure you don't objectify them. They are people too. Your original date probably didn't meant to flake on you. She had to work late. You getting pissed and then trying to immediate fuck someone else is a bullshit responses that you need to get over. It's one thing to say "okay you can't go with me, so i'll just go on my own" and if you kick up something cool. But to combatively search for her replacement is extremely vindictive. Get that shit together son!
/r/seduction07/03/13 09:21 PM
1

I mean she's hot. But this is nothing new or game changing. 6000 / wk for a bootcamp? Haha son you give me 6k and i'll get you laid!
/r/seduction07/03/13 08:40 PM
1

Message Tofutofu. He runs the bay area club.
/r/seduction04/03/13 06:16 PM
1

I dont think it exists any more.
/r/seduction28/02/13 05:37 AM
2

Fair enough. Maybe i should have said "a similar approach".
/r/seduction27/02/13 11:37 PM
4

Yeah the apoc is more of a test of internal fortitude and brass balls than actually trying to get laid. Tofu recorded an entire night of him just using it to hilarious results. i doubt anyone actually uses it for serious results (aside from gauging it's results) If you are looking for ONS, there are much better ways of doing that. There are many guys in the sub simply looking for a nice girl and lack the tools and knowledge of how to even talk to them. Hence this entire community.
/r/seduction27/02/13 09:31 PM
3

I would never hand my phone over to someone like that. The apocalypse opener is simply introducing yourself and then following up with "would you like to go home with me" A variation on that is using a line like "Research says that one out of every 50 women polled said that they would agree to go home with a guy after just meeting them" and then you wait to see what their reaction is. I watched my friend do this at a very large bar in DC and got a taker after 15 tries. It was pretty hilarious.
/r/seduction27/02/13 09:28 PM
1

If you did get the number, just shoot her a text saying you started to get a massive headache and sorry for ruining her night and that you promise to make it up to her. Overt self-depreciation usually a great tactic. Turn this into a positive thing.
/r/seduction27/02/13 09:21 PM
7

And you just generated the Apoc opener.
/r/seduction27/02/13 09:13 PM
5

The first / only thing you say to a girl after "Hi my name is" is "Would you like to go home with tonight?" That's your only line.
/r/seduction27/02/13 09:13 PM
1

No they don't. Getting a number without verification isn't an IOI. Period. Walking up to a girl, having her put your number in your phone, and walking away means dick all. It's no where remotely the same thing.
/r/seduction27/02/13 09:12 PM
2

No you don't. The linchpin of curve's argument is that "getting numbers" means very very little. Some girls just give their number out like candy, never to answer a text or a call. Day 2s should be the ONLY thing you care about, unless you get day1's in the nearby bathroom ;) Tofu trying to fuck a girl on day one has absolutely nothing to do with this kind of opener. This method should only be used if you have problems with AA, are bored or want to test out the flake rate. My bet it's probably v…
/r/seduction27/02/13 09:11 PM
2

Still, they are people. Never forget that. With desires and insecurities and everything you and i have.
/r/seduction21/02/13 10:23 PM
2

That's not the same reason at all. There is a time and a place for compliments, and there really are no hard and fast rules about them. Walking up to a hot girl in a crowded bar and saying "Wow i think you are really cute, can i buy you a drink" probably isn't going to work. But that doesn't mean you can't drop that line later on in the rapport. Never say never, except never use "can i buy you a drink" as a "hello". That's the one rule. That and you don't talk about fight club.
/r/seduction21/02/13 07:03 PM
6

It's because its unexpected so its better received. When women go out at night, they have a barrier up because they expect to be hit on. It means nothing to them when one guys says they are cute because 30 guys have said it. Walking up to a girl at the mall, stopping her because you thought she was too cute not to talk too is pretty far off the pale for them, so it seem more genuine. That's what really matters.
/r/seduction21/02/13 04:31 PM
5

there is more room for that in day game, esp if its genuine
/r/seduction21/02/13 03:16 PM
29

everyguy here wants a pic
/r/seduction21/02/13 03:15 PM
3

Of course you've never heard of me, you dont know my name. I've never divulged myself. I'm not a major player. I've rubbed some elbows and spent long night on the channel and in the forums in the past. Nothing I've said comes from hate. I don't hate you.
/r/seduction20/02/13 02:08 PM
4

I dont know who you were replying to so I'm just going to assume it was me. I don't know anything about the UK pick up scene, so maybe your pedigree is legit. I've been a member of the American scene since early 1999, and I've never heard of you, from ANYONE. Your advice is severely wanting. Yes there are little gems sprinkled throughout but even a broke clock is correct twice a day. We call you a douche because you write like one. This isn't a debate on global warming, your personality matters.…
/r/seduction20/02/13 06:30 AM
1

Thanks
/r/seduction20/02/13 06:08 AM
1

Just because you force yourself in to the PUA world and call yourself a big name, doesn't make you a big name.
/r/seduction19/02/13 11:13 PM
1

I dont really find any of his material helpful, insightful and some of it is just down right offensive/disrespectful. He has a few good pieces of advice, so i shouldn't say insta downvote him. But the blog very rarely contains anything of value.
/r/seduction19/02/13 10:57 PM
20

Just auto downvote anything coming from stevejabba. I tried to give his stuff a fresh look each time, and its all shit.
/r/seduction19/02/13 03:53 PM
1

"I made a list of cliche phrases to get web views, yay i'm a dating blogger" Color me unimpressed.
/r/seduction06/02/13 01:50 PM
1

"I dont want to date either, i just need an excuse to get you back to my place" Be FORWARD about your intentions to girls who don't date. Any girl that says she doesn't like formal dates just means she wants to come over to your house and "watch a movie".
/r/seduction01/02/13 07:13 PM
2

Sounds like you need to be kindof a dick to this girl. Honestly she's testing you. She is probably promiscuous and needs to know you can handle her. Peruse her; either very very lightly and not giving her much attention, or fucking lay that shit down hardcore. Tee-toeing around her is just going to destroy any attraction you may have had.
/r/seduction01/02/13 07:11 PM
1

In all honesty, being ugly is going to affect the way you approach, esp when you are in a pressurized environment (weekend nights at bars/clubs). But that doesn't mean you can't find success. its all about trying different things and seeing what works for you. Try being over the top animated and hilarious. Try being the confidant, quiet type that observes and then swoops in all sexy and mysterious. Try just not giving a fuck about actually picking up a chick, and just talk to her as a human. See…
/r/seduction01/02/13 07:09 PM
0

There isn't a really hard and fast line for this. Some people think ANY amount of confidence cocky. The only thing that matters is who you are deal with at the moment. If your confidence level is working for you, then BAM. If you are turning a girl off by being confident, either tone it back or blow it the fuck up!
/r/seduction01/02/13 07:03 PM
2

Simply being nice isn't being a "nice guy" I'm nice. I help people, im selfless for my friends and what not. But if im talking to girl, i don't kiss her ass and try to impress her. I get to know her as person, tease her, have fun with her. Photography and music isn't nerdy. League is nerdy. Photos and musicans get laid by the droves. You don't have to "show it off". In just about any "get to know you" conversation "what do you do?" always comes up. This is your chance to talk about your passions…
/r/seduction01/02/13 07:01 PM
4

"I know, its a curse" and just keep going.
/r/seduction01/02/13 06:53 PM
1

I don't even....
/r/seduction31/01/13 06:02 PM
1

Notorious for ice queens and really really rich dudes.
/r/seduction31/01/13 05:37 AM
3

Exactly. But there is a time when your feelings are "wrong". That's the problem i have with the whole "IDGAF" trend thats been popping up. Not giving a fuck is okay, but some people take it to extremes...unhealth ones.
/r/seduction30/01/13 09:15 PM
16

The problem is people lump embarrassment and shame together. Shame is a very real empathetic emotion that helps train you when you do something "wrong" in the social circles eyes. Embarrassment can be defined as "fake shame". Where we have been taught that both humility and shame help make us more likable, we get embarrassment, being shameful because we think we have to. While i agree with the general statement, if go out and act like a total asshole (not the fun kind) and people call you out on…
/r/seduction30/01/13 08:57 PM
2

Eric did love his club girls. But in all fairness, thats pretty much where he spent the 8 years developing it. The clubs of Toronto. If you can get laid in Toronto, you can get laid ANYWHERE.
/r/seduction30/01/13 06:26 PM
1

You can dislike Tyler as a person. I did for a long time. But his message and teaching methods are some of the best in the business.
/r/seduction30/01/13 06:24 PM
3

Haha Tyler didn't kill PH, PH killed PH. Also Eric's breakdown and the flood after Summit. Summit was probably the worse idea ever.
/r/seduction30/01/13 06:24 PM
2

Lol....how about 'Putting that much effort into a fucking text." Thats what killing your game. "hey its yokhai, lets do something fun" SHEBAM! Fuck what you heard.
/r/seduction30/01/13 06:13 PM
2

You have to understand that it was big money. Papa looked at Project Hollywood as a way to establish himself as THE PUA to get bootcamps from. We are talking $3k a person for a weekend. And like 20 dudes would show up. The world may not be zero-sum, but getting "street cred" in the PUA community as the bootcamp to attend was extremely valuable. They weren't trying to out pick up each other simply for bragging rights (while that did play a role) it was to establish yourself as legit. "Hey my boot…
/r/seduction25/01/13 09:05 PM
1

Nah you should be fine, i use emoticons all the time and its never been a big deal.
/r/seduction25/01/13 04:25 PM
1

Tyler is a very intense person. You either love him or you hate him. Seddit as a community has split opinions of his personality, but everyone respects his message.
/r/seduction25/01/13 01:54 PM
12

Nah, I wasn't of age at the time. I was really active on the forums and went to the bootcamps when they were free. I've met a few of the guys and stuff like that. Neil's story was only one side, he was as objective as he could but he was still Eric's friend in the end. Go read Tynan's blog, he has a much different take on what went down. fastseduction.alt was a very interesting place to be in 1999-2001.
/r/seduction24/01/13 10:13 PM
16

RSD forced him to change more than The Game did. His early camps were pretty brutal. He is a very very smart dude, extremely analytical but very tackless and crass (well he use to be). RSD refined him. There were a shit ton of politics about business and monetization going down at that time. Bridges were burned and people said some really dumb shit. The Game glosses over the creation of RSD and vilifies Tyler and Papa but that's never really concerned me. The Tyler we knew was just fucking mean.…
/r/seduction24/01/13 08:59 PM
9

Hahaha, I remember watching one of his first group sarges. so no. And Tyler has changed a lot since then, so my dislike of him is probably unwarranted now.
/r/seduction24/01/13 08:22 PM
32

You must be new here. Welcome. We are glad you dont think we are creepy. While i hate tyler, its for personal reasons, he gives great advice and you should def check his stuff out more.
/r/seduction24/01/13 07:54 PM
1

Low-self esteem, trying to lower her value so she's not judged as a bitch, actual humility, a sign of intrest, a joke. Don't assume or read into that. It can be ANY number of things and needs context to be properly read.
/r/seduction18/01/13 06:51 PM
2

I have several female friends. I've slept with all of them. But we are friends now in a sexual light. Yeah you can friends that are girls.
/r/seduction17/01/13 08:45 PM
3

None of those things contribute at all. its just your own mental masturbation. Most of the crap you posted is irrelevant.
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:37 PM
2

Don't use gifts to show you affection. Have you had an intimate moment with this girl? And I don't mean sex, it could be snuggling, having an all day date with many inside jokes and moments? Anything like that. If this is basically you just talking to her over a few dates and on the phone, roses would be a terrible idea. SEND NO GIFTS ON V-DAY. That's even worse. That just lumps you in with millions of other dudes. Plan an awesome date and have a good time.
/r/seduction11/01/13 02:21 PM
-1

HAHAHAHAHAHA oh let me catch my breath HAHAHAHAHAHAHA did he say easiest? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....oh boy, i'm crying a bit here.
/r/seduction09/01/13 08:23 PM
0

Ya done good son. Now you should write this a story to your friend how you met a chick with out ANY pua lingo or jargon just to see what it would look like.
/r/seduction09/01/13 01:26 PM
5

I just like to buy a box of magnum condoms, thus demonstrating i have a monster dong.
/r/seduction09/01/13 11:55 AM
-1

I like just plain ole remembering stuff.
/r/seduction09/01/13 11:52 AM
3

And with those notes, im sure a girl would happy to "happen" to see them and see the effort you took into an awesome date.
/r/seduction08/01/13 06:12 PM
13

You don't give a fuck what they see. Stop being a little bitch. Oh and don't take notes on girls...that's weird.
/r/seduction08/01/13 05:55 PM
2

Im pretty sure HB8 want some wang in her life. Go visit her restaurant.
/r/seduction07/01/13 03:51 PM
2

Dude...that first response....that wasn't a "neg" that was being an asshole. WHen a girls says "im running behind, ill be 10 minutes late" you say "no worries, i put my shoes on the wrong feet too from time to time" That's funny and flirty, you were being a dickbag from the get go. I started some heavy negging, jokingly saying that those weren't real subjects. This is the point where i think you are trolling us. That isn't negging you retard, that's just being mean. I'm 90% this is a troll post …
/r/seduction30/12/12 06:45 PM
0

negging is just structured and systematic way to teach social awkward males how to tease a girl. Teasing, if done correctly, is sexy and fun. Negging should be sexy and fun.
/r/seduction27/12/12 08:23 PM
3

I haven't been caught, but one of my favorite things is go back over with the girl the things i did to pick her up and watch her be like "oh shit wow...that's amazing" or what not. It's funny to burst the attraction bubble once and a while.
/r/seduction27/12/12 08:19 PM
4

This is just psuedo meta zen bullshit. In his examples Alvin is doing shit EVERYONE here could tell him is wrong. The writer is making very pour strawmen then trying to set up his guy as the superhero. Anything beyond saying "hi" is attraction building. Trying to say "do less" and call that facilitating is disingenuous. Both guys are building attraction, one is just doing it the correct way. I wish I had more hands, so I could give this article four thumbs down.
/r/seduction27/12/12 03:22 PM
17

Your comment should be top comment as it is the exact reasons these terms mention.
/r/seduction21/12/12 04:14 PM
1

I don't understand, you failed nothing, you had this chick running all over town....this was a huge success.
/r/seduction17/12/12 06:14 PM
5

Obviously you are either insecure or feel threatened or you wouldn't even think to say anything? If the girl is with you, and you've done your fucking job at seducing her other guys shouldn't matter.
/r/seduction13/12/12 10:08 PM
30

Not at all. The best defense is not not give a fuck about other dudes. If you go on the offense, you look like a douchebag.
/r/seduction13/12/12 09:59 PM
1

And on the fifth date she said come back and see me.
/r/seduction13/12/12 03:14 AM
3

None...you need no backend. My apartment was shit, i still pulled like crazy. Logistics dont matter. Attraction and passion are the only things that matter.
/r/seduction12/12/12 06:45 PM
2

You are trying to hard and girls can smell that shit from a mile away. You wanting to have sex so badly with undoubtedly affect how your act while seducing, probably chasing off any good targets. You just need to get laid and get over that initial desperation. Then when you calm down and realize its not that big of a deal, you will be able to go after much more desirable women.
/r/seduction12/12/12 06:34 PM
1

It harkens back to the alt-seduction.fast when you used symbols and acronyms to keep it is as coded as possible. It's all just legacy/cultural terms that haven't filtered away. There is no reason to say #c anymore over "i got her number" or *c to say "we kissed".
/r/seduction11/12/12 05:05 PM
1

Lol i know a guy just like you described, and his "best friend". Funny how these situations are so common.
/r/seduction11/12/12 03:47 PM
1

Meet more people? Its not hard to hope on the beer pong table, start bullshitting and make friends. You don't have to drink to play, i'm sure your partner will drink for you.
/r/seduction11/12/12 03:29 PM
2

If its not Christina Vee....you have failed.
/r/seduction11/12/12 02:38 PM
4

I applaude your FR and your performance. The guys calling you a douche are just jealous and insecure about the flak they've gotten for being into pick up. Embrace that shit homie. Get laid and have fun, that's what matters.
/r/seduction11/12/12 02:10 PM
2

The point of this sub is talk about the finer points of seduction and techniques, not ask the same questions every week. This has already happened. We've talk about texting versus calling over and over again. Its in the FAQ, there are numerous tools to search on. Repeatedly asking this question is pointless.
/r/seduction07/12/12 07:01 PM
1

Im gonna caps lock here not out of anger at you OP specifically, but general frustration and stress relief DO WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER STOP MAKING DUMBASS POSTS LIKE THIS!
/r/seduction07/12/12 02:49 PM
2

yeah dont be afraid to work around her schedule. if she refuses to help you out with that, ie consistently flaking, just move on, but at least try for the first two weeks or so. True Hb10's are in high demand, so remember that.
/r/seduction06/12/12 07:02 PM
1

touche
/r/seduction05/12/12 04:53 AM
2

GAY!
/r/seduction04/12/12 01:10 PM
6

pussy
/r/seduction03/12/12 07:48 PM
2

It's not, and i was being condescending.
/r/seduction27/11/12 09:04 PM
3

oh yeah cause fighting and being a douchebag is totally alpha. What are you 12?
/r/seduction27/11/12 08:30 PM
15

She's probably going to fuck you within the next visit or too, this was a get to know you date. You done good son.
/r/seduction27/11/12 01:42 PM
3

If she has hot friends and will actually be your friend and wing man for you....then what's the problem?
/r/seduction27/11/12 01:34 PM
1

If works for you quite often, then its good, thats the only evaluation that matters
/r/seduction24/11/12 05:29 AM
17

It's not. It's a very weak passive-aggressive statement that should never be said unless you are trying to piss the person off.
/r/seduction19/11/12 06:32 PM
2

Just to be pedantic, telling a girl to meet you somewhere can still give the ability to be vague. "Meet me at Bar around 10, i got the first round" "Maybe, ill get back to you" It doesn't guarantee a yes or no, it just sounds better.
/r/seduction19/11/12 06:31 PM
1

YES IT DOES! IT LOVES ME DEARLY DON'T YOU LIE TO ME! I HATE YOU AND I WANT TO GO LIVE WITH MOM!
/r/seduction15/11/12 02:36 PM
1

there is no such thing as pua shit. its just flirting and talking. there is nothing anyone can do that will make a girl cheat. Either she will or she wont.
/r/seduction14/11/12 02:44 PM
2

You get it and dont give a fuck about it.
/r/seduction13/11/12 07:14 PM
4

Nothing you say matters, its how you say it.
/r/seduction13/11/12 03:31 PM
1

That doesn't mean anything. I'll just leave this here: If you like to play with fire, I like to make cookies
/r/seduction08/11/12 03:51 PM
1

I've dated three strippers. There is nothing different or wrong with most of them. Yeah sure there is the stereotypical drugged out quasi-pro 38 year old stripper, but there are just as many types of dancers as there are construction workers. People are individuals, surprise.
/r/seduction08/11/12 03:03 PM
1

Because she's out with him while ignoring other guys? Now there is the possibility that he's not the only guy, and she does this to all the guys she dates, but so the fuck what? That's probably to be expected. As long as he is having fun and enjoying his results, don't try to shit on his parade.
/r/seduction08/11/12 03:01 PM
1

I dont like your attitude as far as holding off texing and talking over her. This reads borderline sociopathic. Everything else looks good, confidence, holding sexual frame, leading to the car, the teasing. But the way you write about why you hold your texts or thinking that being interrupted is low status and then talking over her is just....its wrong. You hold off your texts because you want to convey the idea that you have things to do and she isn't the only interesting thing in your life, it…
/r/seduction08/11/12 02:57 PM
1

Oh i got you. I understand.
/r/seduction08/11/12 04:54 AM
1

What is PM? I guess my question really stems from content expansion, aka, would it be profitable for you to take on other writers/personalities. It's quite interesting the paradox between how the seduction/life improvement business is managed vs the natural expansion of up and coming brand management. How much exposure do you want, and do you consider any as too much? This may be a little convoluted, I'm thinking up ideas as I type them.
/r/seduction08/11/12 02:15 AM
2

Actually, as far as your business model is concerned, how does it operate? You have a blog and have retired from coaching, do you not want other writers/opinions/help in your current business? I'm really curious how it all connects together.
/r/seduction07/11/12 07:16 PM
0

Are you hiring?
/r/seduction07/11/12 04:42 PM
2

Yeah no.....go away.
/r/seduction29/10/12 09:31 PM
1

PARAGRAPHS SON, USE THEM! "Hey Seddit, i have a problem with that chick i asked out for drinks! but first a little bit of backstory for you: last week i went clubbing as usual, so meeting up with some friends from college to get drunk and then go the club, so this day i didnt eat much, resulting in me being too drunk. But somehow i manage to talk that HB8 at the bar, my friend told me later she was really into me but i can only remember her name and master :D i somehow ended up getting her numbe…
/r/seduction29/10/12 04:59 PM
1

Skimpy/slut costumes + alcohol + exhilaration = easy time getting laid.
/r/seduction25/10/12 02:34 PM
1

I have no problem hooking up with girls who have boyfriends. But that's me. If you feel the same way, then continue on like there is no problem and see if she stops, if not, there's your answer. If you do have a problem with hooking with a girl who has a bf, find a new girl. Don't try to weasel your way in. There is no technique or method or routine that will get a girl to cheat, so don't listen to anyone that tells you other wise.
/r/seduction18/10/12 03:41 PM
1

SelfAmuse said MM. That means Mystery Method. However cma shouldn't have been condescending.
/r/seduction09/10/12 09:06 PM
2

He is happy that both exist? There isn't a double standard. He likes girls who will cheat when he is the side piece and he is happy to know that there are girls that won't cheat when he is the BF.
/r/seduction09/10/12 09:05 PM
2

agree and escalate.
/r/seduction03/10/12 12:42 AM
1

creepy emails? They guy that doesn't have negative 500 comment votes in this subreddit. Check yo'self 'fore you wreck yo'self.
/r/seduction28/09/12 03:52 PM
1

Like you said, i could just write 7 pages of all my ideas. I can send you a list of experiences and things i've learned and you guys can let me know if there's anything you want to use or pick from, then i can go into more detail.
/r/seduction27/09/12 05:48 PM
2

This is a quality post. Well rounded advice with solid and specific examples that doesn't self-promote. I feel like there is a ton that you guys didn't cover, but this is the 101 portion. If you plan on doing a 201 or need some insight/advice/extra writer let me know, I'd like to offer my own input about what i've seen in college.
/r/seduction27/09/12 05:41 PM
3

YES that's exactly what i thought....man i remember when coke resurged in the mid 2000's when certain clubs opened back up. You couldn't go the whole night without having some coked up chick wanting to fuck your brains out.
/r/seduction27/09/12 05:10 PM
2

....If she has plans when you suggest a date, then you just follow up with "well then when are you free?" No one is telling you "Nah Brah she blew you off go get more chicks" you can chase girls you are actually interested in, its possible to put yourself in the passenger seat for just one interaction.
/r/seduction27/09/12 03:31 PM
1

Why is this even advice? I don't understand the need for silver bullets. There is no such thing as "the best text message to send a girl." Trying to sell that ideology is fallacious and disingenuous. I like the general advice of flirty text messages before asking out, thats's a good look out. And that text...was terrible. The rest of your advice completely assumes you are going to ask her over and over on a date, when in reality you should make a plan, present it to her. If she is busy on that d…
/r/seduction27/09/12 03:29 PM
3

What is a slash?
/r/seduction27/09/12 03:02 PM
1

Yeah thats what my original comment was about. Some things get posted that are creepy or assholish or just plain wrong. We have to let the downvote system and user comments regulate that.
/r/seduction27/09/12 01:25 PM
1

Yeah, im lucky that i changed my online handle half way through college, so im distant from my old presence in alt.seduction.fast.
/r/seduction26/09/12 10:49 PM
1

Nothing much, just someone posting some material that i considered questionable. Im sure you can find it if you search through my comment history.
/r/seduction26/09/12 10:46 PM
2

EDIT those numbers dont really mean anything, its sitting at 0 right now, so in this sub....that matters.
/r/seduction26/09/12 10:45 PM
1

Because i use to be a very public member of a larger community and no matter what anyone says, peoples opinions about you and the passions you have matter, especially in a public forum. Here its all anon, or close enough, so it doesn't really matter.
/r/seduction26/09/12 10:44 PM
1

It really is the only way to be sure
/r/seduction26/09/12 08:10 PM
1

Yeah i've sortof resigned myself to ignore most of it. But its just so hard when someone posts something like that, and people go "SEE SEE. THIS IS WHY YOU GUYS ARE CREEPERS" Le sigh.
/r/seduction26/09/12 07:57 PM
1

Yeah I def understand that. I guess we have to let the downvote/comment system work.
/r/seduction26/09/12 07:14 PM
2

Is it sad that the first thing to come to my mind is "This is nice and all, but are you hot?" And that's not a question of your success as a PUA or author based on your attractiveness....just my male brain wanting to know. Can you go into detail the politices of seduction and PUA within the S&M community? I'm curious to know if its similar to the gay community.
/r/seduction26/09/12 07:03 PM
8

What about people posting things that the community widely regards as unhealthy, toxic, or just plan wrong. I'm all for discussion and openness to new ideas, but you just saw how one person submission can, once again, shed a bad light on what we are trying to do here. Is there an algorithm that will measure the upvote or downvote speed and tag posts as "community approved" or "what not to do" based on how we vote on a submission. I understand the idea of inciting votes, and I would like to stay …
/r/seduction26/09/12 06:57 PM
0

That's true....but its more than just enthusiasm. It's not being ashamed or shy of your enthusiasm that's alpha.
/r/seduction26/09/12 06:51 PM
5

Just because you are good at domination game doesn't mean you should be handing out advice. You are a bad teacher and bad at understand whats going on around you. This actually helps you be successful at dominance game, but makes you look like absolute shit when written out. If you want to have a successful teaching business, you are going to have to learn how to properly analyze yourself and understand what's going on. You have skill at getting women to sleep with you. Work on getting people to…
/r/seduction26/09/12 06:21 PM
4

Trying again? There is a good chance you are gonna get banned from this forum. Or at least tagged as "Shit we don't support" You got downvoted like crazy not 4 hours again and posting more of your own bullshit advice. That video was terrible. That girl looked super uncomfortable, and knowing that she is from a different country than you, clearly shows that she doesn't know how to deal with you, so she stook around to be polite. You talk about reading body language and tone, but what you really d…
/r/seduction26/09/12 06:17 PM
15

Yeah...that's why we downvote and voice our opinions on shit like this. Ideas like this should not be a representation of our community. This article should be downvoted to oblivion.
/r/seduction26/09/12 06:04 PM
1

did you really just type that....no wonder people assume we are all misogynistic assholes. Women aren't ADD and in information overload. You don't have to keep them in line, thinking like that is retarded. "See you tonight" is neither needy nor alpha, it could be considerate, i could be showing enthusiasm.
/r/seduction26/09/12 05:38 PM
15

Its not about the content, but the tone and general message. Yes the details of his post contain usefull information about tips on how to be more aggressive in the one on one. What I and many others took offense to was how the article was written. If you want to cherry pick from it, that's fine, but taking the thing as a whole can lead to some quasi-misogynistic ideologies.
/r/seduction26/09/12 05:32 PM
12

Every single one of your comments has been downvoted and you are at the top of /r/seduction because there is nothing else posted to push you out.
/r/seduction26/09/12 05:30 PM
3

I try.
/r/seduction26/09/12 05:29 PM
21

Lol you are completely missing the point. Desire and loving women is turning the game into adversarial and almost sexist. You are generalizing and compartmentalizing to the point of comedy. I dont have time to watch a 35 minute talking head video. Im sure your honest and fun loving and give value and blah blah blah. But in the article i read that you posted "first date guide" its all "bullshitbullshitbullshit" and I sat next matador when he was claiming to have a 95% success rate, i've heard top…
/r/seduction26/09/12 04:49 PM
8

My shit will clean all your bowls, i promise dude, its the whirlpool of dishwashers.
/r/seduction26/09/12 04:24 PM
17

That was a wrong word choice. My point still stands, your entire mindset is completely toxic to the ideals that seduction tries to cultivate. You apply all the right movies with all the wrong intentions and it saddens me to see how much you've missed the point.
/r/seduction26/09/12 04:19 PM
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I FUCKING HATE SHIT LIKE THIS! This is the bullshit that needs to be "How not to write an article." I don't care if you have a 90% success rate. Its all great advice, then it starts trying take everything and make it a silver bullet. And your negs are fucking pathetic dude. How about "When you go a first date, you try to get to know the person and have a good time" not "Make a plan to use every manipulative technique you can think of to get your dick wet"
/r/seduction26/09/12 03:47 PM
9

Yeah any girl that straight up asks you to buy her a drink...you dump all over her and she will love it. I love girls that do this shit.
/r/seduction25/09/12 06:28 PM
1

Just act like you are there with your friends and they are on the other side of the club, just start saying hi and talking to everyone around you. People will assume you are with your friends. I've never been asked if im alone till 10-15 minutes of talking. By then it doesn't really matter "oh yeah I just rolled out here by myself"
/r/seduction20/09/12 06:35 PM
1

I'm not saying its perfect, but I've had girls rather give out their facebook over their number. This isn't mental masturbation or me projecting my beliefs, it's actually happened. I never said it was a deal breaker, or that a girl would say "lol no facebook" but i have seen them question why someone in this day in age wouldn't have it. Now granted that sets you up for a good DHV line, but still. I didn't downvote you, i was merely trying to say why you would probably be downvoted here. I wasn't…
/r/seduction18/09/12 03:18 AM
2

Granted that last comment was unnecessary, but he does have a point. Facebook is relevant because of the expectation of social interaction it has created. Imagine a girl saying "Text me later" to which you say "oh i dont have text messages" then you look like the weirdo. For many many women, facebook has become the defacto connection tool, and you are just alienating those women if you chose to neglect that fact.
/r/seduction17/09/12 08:13 PM
1

But...but...bitches also love smileys. FACE TIME!
/r/seduction11/09/12 05:38 PM
1

Doesn't matter, text what you want.
/r/seduction11/09/12 05:37 PM
1

Im trying to get across the point that this isn't something that should be focused on. Not trying to say "hur hur you are dumb" but "please stop worrying about these things" My point is, this isn't a dilemma. You should take from that "i don't need to fret over this"
/r/seduction07/09/12 06:37 PM
0

I'll be wearing X, what are you wearing. Done and done. This isn't that hard of a question or decision.
/r/seduction07/09/12 05:56 PM
1

Call her up, say hey lets meet up, go out with her. If you like what you see/hear, follow up. If not, say LJBF. How the fuck is this even a question?
/r/seduction07/09/12 05:03 PM
1

Tell stories. About yourself, funny shit you've see, ask her about herself and talk about that. hell make shit up. Aesop Fables, anything. Eventually the convo will even out.
/r/seduction07/09/12 04:41 PM
1

This place is designed to re-wire men's brains who failed to learn how to be genuinely attractive and pleasant. You can eat the burger but you wouldn't want to look into the slaughterhouse.
/r/seduction05/09/12 03:00 PM
2

I like how he talked about media and movies shaping the expectations of girls and I definitely know this is a factor. Women are told from a very young age that they are the prize and there is a knight with perfect teeth and great abs who can cook fight and hold doors waiting on her when she hits 25.
/r/seduction03/09/12 02:21 AM
1

why didn't you blow of the 7 and go for Marta....i was hoping for that.
/r/seduction29/08/12 04:51 PM
1

No such thing as pushing things further than you should, esp when you know the set isn't vibing you. If they aren't receptive a first, a viable alternative is just to let loose and push it as far as you can. i've turned around many a cold starts by doing that.
/r/seduction29/08/12 04:47 PM
1

danke
/r/seduction29/08/12 03:18 PM
3

Can you post links to your other parts?
/r/seduction29/08/12 02:50 PM
1

He knows the culture, intimately. You are thinking very much wrong. He is the premier JP PUA. He's seen it all and can really help someone who has no idea.
/r/seduction24/08/12 10:56 PM
1

He was, but that should only further help anyone who wants to learn.
/r/seduction24/08/12 10:21 PM
1

FOR THE WHORES!
/r/seduction24/08/12 06:35 PM
2

At least you are trying. That's what matters.
/r/seduction24/08/12 03:47 PM
16

She's gon fuck you till you die!
/r/seduction24/08/12 02:43 PM
9

Messaged TofuTofu to check this thread, he can help you out immensely.
/r/seduction24/08/12 02:32 PM
4

Your whole problem is that you look at this process as adversarial. It's not. Its a team game. You are on the same team. This is a dance where you both change "control" and vy for "most seductive", it should be fun, not frustrating. The fact that you keep questioning his intentions, fully knowing what was going on, it just more indication that the type of skills seddit teaches works and almost has to be applied. You knew what was going on and you were still hesitant. Relax more and be comfortabl…
/r/seduction24/08/12 02:10 PM
2

That's because the only thing of value is the same shit we keep saying over and over.
/r/seduction21/08/12 08:34 PM
2

is this a joke?
/r/seduction15/08/12 08:35 PM
1

you need to get that chick back asap and lay it right.
/r/seduction09/08/12 02:59 AM
1

Don't feel bad, just keep trying. It gets easier eventually. Your making strides, don't take a step back by over thinking it. Just know that it feels worse NOT doing something than the potential of getting rejected. Be glad you've already realized that much. You're all good.
/r/seduction08/08/12 07:42 PM
1

Pretend you aren't. Pretend you are 12 and don't care what girls think, you are just out to have fun. let the kid in you come out and enjoy the little things.
/r/seduction07/08/12 03:24 PM
2

Why are you so jaded man? Wanting the full package, including financial security, is a perfectly acceptable goal to have. Gold digging means a woman is ONLY interested in money. This woman is obviously looking for everything, including money. She doesn't display any of the signs of a gold digger, just someone that refuses to settle. She wants to get serious and has high standards. She talked about how she use to not care about a man not having a career and just dating around for shits and giggle…
/r/seduction06/08/12 07:47 PM
5

U mad bro? yeah u mad That's dating in any major city. Did you see the paragraph where she stocks her apt with food and shit for when a date comes home with her. She is playing up the very social norm side of dating. Doing what society in upper class Northern USA has taught her. She is 30 dating in a very financial secure social setting. There is a whole self analysis where she said she was perfectly fine splitting checks when she was in her 20's, but now she is for the full package, and that in…
/r/seduction06/08/12 04:53 PM
1

Are you hiring?
/r/seduction30/07/12 01:55 PM
2

I did for about 4 months, but that was way back when it was just seduction.fast.alt and Jefferies were the only shops in town. M3 was godsend and TD was just a douche. After PH and The Game, RSD and Love Systems, shit became a cash grab and and I had developed my methods with out needing all the books and stuff.
/r/seduction18/07/12 07:14 PM
5

This is you overanalyzing shit too much.
/r/seduction12/07/12 03:42 PM
1

Thanks for that, i did not know. Any more detail?
/r/seduction04/07/12 03:22 PM
2

Oh hell yeah...when it rains it pours. Just something you have to learn to deal with.
/r/seduction03/07/12 07:57 PM
2

Yeah you failed that...you jumped the gun big time. That comment was her way of saying "im open, show me what you got" and you folded.
/r/seduction03/07/12 04:26 PM
1

This was way before seduction. I got the idea from reading Tucker Max back in early 2004. My friends and I were getting into some hilarious shit when we went out and i wanted to catalogue it so i started wearing a recorder. Once i started hitting on chicks, i got a two-fer out of it. I had well over a thousand hours of mostly garbage small talk and shitty band background noise and maybe 30-40 golden oneliners and conversations. Alas all of that footage was on my old HD when it died. I'm getting …
/r/seduction03/07/12 01:07 PM
2

they asked a question. i gave an answer. Shrug.
/r/seduction03/07/12 12:54 PM
1

Yep yep.
/r/seduction03/07/12 12:47 PM
-1

This is retarded.
/r/seduction02/07/12 01:15 PM
1

i was being stereotypical. Very very stereotypical.
/r/seduction02/07/12 01:00 PM
2

atlanta.
/r/seduction02/07/12 01:00 PM
4

Because the bottoms (aka girlies) are more likely to have the same outlook as straight girls. I am completely being un-kosher on this and just going off my own experiences, but female tops are more in-tuned into the fisherman mindset.
/r/seduction02/07/12 12:50 PM
18

I have a few friends that i've slept with and then friendzoned. The topic of my game comes up from time to time and I am very open and candid with them about how i operate and they all say the same shit. "oh that would never work on me." "I'd see you coming a hundred miles away" "You sound like a total douchebag" I respond to each of these comments the same way "Well i slept with you didn't I?" Then it's a litany of "that's different" "you were special" bullshit that girls tell themselves. Howev…
/r/seduction02/07/12 03:35 AM
1

You have never done this enough times to know how it will come out to make your points. If you would, you'd realize just how good of an opener this is and you wouldn't be objecting.
/r/seduction29/06/12 07:45 PM
1

Ah this shit happens all the time.
/r/seduction28/06/12 10:09 PM
2

Don't call girls prey, i know it's tongue in cheek in your head when you are writing it...but it never ever comes across that way. But very good other wise.
/r/seduction28/06/12 05:29 PM
6

You are a little bitch. she didn't disrespect you....you fucked that up. A) You should have just said, no problem that's cool, 10 is fine. B) "Just a little more of your time" ? Hahaha, that's hilarious.
/r/seduction27/06/12 01:13 PM
2

You are taking her home thursday. its pretty much sealed up.
/r/seduction27/06/12 12:58 PM
43

You have a shit ton of cock blockers....i would never cock block like that....haters.
/r/seduction26/06/12 05:14 PM
3

That second line is completely subjective and really only applies to a few guys. The more you masturbate, the more testosterone you make. NoFap is just a placebo. You didn't make it clear that your company was to be paid for, she was paying for your help. Everything else looked solid.
/r/seduction25/06/12 02:31 PM
1

Ah...that the only mentality you should have. Always assume you are in and act accordingly.
/r/seduction23/06/12 12:32 AM
1

That article is kind of pointless.
/r/seduction22/06/12 06:35 PM
2

Just say "i'm going to borrow your sister for a few" and walk her somewhere you could be alone. Yeah if she has an early morning, its best not to press it. Make sure you set up a date on the weekend, she is definitely in to you.
/r/seduction22/06/12 02:43 PM
1

If girls are hitting on you, just play it cool and try not to fuck it up.
/r/seduction22/06/12 02:17 PM
2

being hesitant to taking a shot isn't a neg. You should have pushed shit a little further and tried to isolate her. She was giving you massive IOI's. you could have probably brought her home
/r/seduction22/06/12 02:17 PM
18

You didn't get friendzoned...at all. You need press this as safe as you can. She has lit you up with IoI's. You are pretty much in.
/r/seduction22/06/12 01:47 PM
1

You weren't being an AFC....you liked a girl but she couldn't return it because she was afraid she was moving. It sounds like you let your friend talk you into a friend-zone that didn't exist. It's okay to be friends with girls you are attracted to, and to not sleep with them. The world won't explode
/r/seduction20/06/12 08:30 PM
3

By Not Capitalizing Every Word In The Title. You just work to bring the shy girl in, every one is different and its up to you to figure out how to interact with them.
/r/seduction18/06/12 06:17 PM
4

THIS IS FUCKING EPIC!
/r/seduction15/06/12 05:05 PM
0

Change that to upvoted then.
/r/seduction15/06/12 04:58 PM
1

You are still missing the point of what i said.
/r/seduction15/06/12 04:56 PM
4

This is a terrible blog. Why does it even get posted here?
/r/seduction15/06/12 03:00 PM
1

It has nothing to with being cool. its about getting along with people you normally wouldn't to give you access to a social circle you normally wouldn't. Means to an end.
/r/seduction14/06/12 08:28 PM
1

Sometimes the world doesn't work like that. Its not better just to burn bridges and move on. Sometimes you have to play the cards your are dealt. This was my case in the city i used to live in. The night life in the area with the hottest, promiscuous chicks was "controlled" by around 8-12 bros who were all friends. The bartenders, the bands, they knew everyone. If you pissed them off or didn't play by their rules, you were pretty much blackballed. If you want to play in a field like that, you le…
/r/seduction14/06/12 02:46 PM
2

Did you read past the first sentence? The very next one says that ballet tickets are far too pricey for me....
/r/seduction14/06/12 04:25 AM
2

I like those too. I do MMA, surf and play the Sax. its all good
/r/seduction13/06/12 10:01 PM
4

Two of them yes. Musicals kick ass man.
/r/seduction13/06/12 09:23 PM
2

Les Mis in 3 weeks. Seen Wicked and Avenue Q already this year. And ballet tickets are far to pricey for me right now. Going to check out Phantom once it comes to the movie experience for the Met. Yep....
/r/seduction13/06/12 09:18 PM
4

Les Mis in 3 weeks. Seen Wicked and Avenue Q already this year. And ballet tickets are far to pricey for me right now. Going to check out Phantom once it comes to the movie experience for the Met. Yep....
/r/seduction13/06/12 09:16 PM
6

I am none of those things and i love musicals and dance performances.
/r/seduction13/06/12 08:26 PM
1

it's annoying to deal with when you are out trying to have fun. i'm in the same boat with him. I doesn't upset me, but it is annoying. The OP. The best solution i know of is to try and cool it abit and spend a few weeks turning these guys to your friends how just accept you.
/r/seduction13/06/12 06:57 PM
4

Not at all, if she already knows you have sexual intentions, this long set up would probably make her curious, then the punch line drops...its funny.
/r/seduction13/06/12 06:51 PM
28

but...but...bitches do love the park
/r/seduction12/06/12 01:24 PM
3

i do it too.
/r/seduction09/06/12 04:55 AM
11

stand however the fuck you want and dont give a shit what other people think.
/r/seduction08/06/12 07:59 PM
1

Meetup. is there a kickball organization like GoKickball or WAKA, sign up to do things. make friends like that.
/r/seduction08/06/12 02:39 PM
1

I don't what motivation this for, but god damn that blonde chick was gorgeous.
/r/seduction07/06/12 06:28 PM
3

The only problem i see here is in your own head. This girl did to you the same exact thing we advocate doing to them. Proof that it works...in fucking spades.
/r/seduction07/06/12 05:59 PM
2

Then back off...duh!
/r/seduction06/06/12 02:03 PM
29

Enthusiasm. Pure unbridled enthusiasm.
/r/seduction06/06/12 01:37 PM
1

It's a possibility. Pride, sadness and anger all attribute to how people act. It's possible that you mislead her some how, which made her reaction worse. Either way whats done is done and you can either try to come to some middle ground or go back out. Or both.
/r/seduction06/06/12 01:17 PM
2

She lied to you, three times. You were her emotional support, he was her excitement. She called you back and kept you on the hook because it made her feel good to have you at her beck and call. There is a slight possibility that was confused and then made up her mind, but that's irrelevant. What matters is how you were treated, LIKE SHIT. Don't just take it, go out and find you another girl.
/r/seduction05/06/12 06:27 PM
1

I hate this blog....
/r/seduction04/06/12 05:59 PM
1

never without a rubber, but sans - blanket is do-able You shouldnt worry about buyer's remorse. This is anti abundance mentality.
/r/seduction04/06/12 05:58 PM
2

Buyers remorse usually happens after the fact, not during. You should just push until she either stops you or you bang on the roof top.
/r/seduction04/06/12 04:24 PM
1

Why the fuck were you nervous while making out with her?
/r/seduction04/06/12 04:15 PM
2

He is talking about people you meet...not yourself.
/r/seduction01/06/12 11:20 AM
3

My jerk offs are harder than your gym sessions. :-D Good write up.
/r/seduction30/05/12 04:25 PM
1

Naw I'll just let you know when these topics come up.
/r/seduction27/05/12 11:32 PM
0

There are other aspects to talk about, this is not one of them
/r/seduction27/05/12 01:38 PM
0

Then you are thinking and worrying about it to much
/r/seduction26/05/12 01:42 PM
-2

The point of seduction is to talk about aspects of seduction. We are telling you that a hip flask is not one of those aspects and shouldn't be something you need to check in with us about.
/r/seduction25/05/12 04:12 PM
1

A) Why do you care what we think? Its your life, you want a flask, flask that shit up yo B) It's pretty badass C) But you shouldn't give two shits.
/r/seduction25/05/12 01:22 PM
1

haha, no
/r/seduction25/05/12 12:59 PM
6

not the good kind
/r/seduction24/05/12 08:18 PM
4

i love hitting on those girls. Because of guys like you, they get almost no good attention. A few great conversations, some laughs, its all gravy baby.
/r/seduction24/05/12 07:51 PM
6

Thats because everyone knows she is dating someone.
/r/seduction24/05/12 02:26 PM
5

you gotta stop looking at these guys as competition and more as friends and colleagues. If you have an abundance mentality, it really shines through here. AMOG's are not your enemy. Unless they are assholes to you, then they make it really easy to deal with.
/r/seduction24/05/12 02:29 AM
1

YEUP!
/r/seduction23/05/12 04:23 PM
7

Because time and again we have found that this is simply not the case, or the case for a small section of girls. Being like this with a girl you just met will send all sorts of flags off in her head. And how does a boring guy not feel safe and secure. A boring guy is the most safe choice you can make. This is just some girl typing out what she thinks she likes/wants regardless of what she is actually attracted to. It's crap advice.
/r/seduction23/05/12 02:45 PM
7

A man that makes her feel special and cared for above all else. How you treat her and make her feel safe and secure is the number one thing; nice guys are these guys. But a boring guy who is insecure in himself and his relationship does not make girls feel safe and secure, therefore not boyfriend material. This is shit advice.
/r/seduction23/05/12 01:28 PM
1

He is trolling us. Read all of his replies. Just lock/delete this thing. Its not some guy asking for advice, just some bored /r/seddit hater (probably) looking for a laugh
/r/seduction23/05/12 12:54 AM
2

Ah so you are trolling us...you must be really bored to type all that out for laughs. Carry on
/r/seduction23/05/12 12:53 AM
2

That last sentence sums up everything perfectly. That is why you will never get laid by her. Either you step it up and actually seduce her, or find a new chick. Playing double dutch waiting for the right time will ensure she plays you like violin to keep you around and leach of your emotional support and attention.
/r/seduction22/05/12 09:39 PM
2

That was from The Fast and Furious, but i like where you went with it.
/r/seduction22/05/12 07:55 PM
2

And that example is why she will never sleep with you. I would have told her to come over to my place and get her goodbye. Either step your game up or find another girl.
/r/seduction22/05/12 07:55 PM
2

You can't help who you are attracted to. This talk is boarder line oneitis.
/r/seduction22/05/12 06:23 PM
3

She like assholes, the more that guy pushes her away, the more she wants him. Go find your own chick.
/r/seduction22/05/12 05:28 PM
14

Doesn't matter if it's an inch or a mile, winning is winning.
/r/seduction22/05/12 04:27 PM
3

OP called your cousin a slut didn't he....what a douche!
/r/seduction22/05/12 04:22 PM
25

My GF says pretty much the same thing about the first time we met. She claims she picked me and that I had nothing to do with it. Rolls eyes....
/r/seduction22/05/12 02:29 PM
2

Yes...fuck it....that is how it goes. Stop worrying about this chick, take her when she comes to you, and put your energies elsewhere.
/r/seduction17/05/12 06:03 PM
1

Okay then you have oneitis for a girl who is playing you like a violin. You just need to stop worrying about her. Enjoy the hooks up when they happen but stop putting effort and care into this relationship and find someone who actually wants to spend time with you.
/r/seduction17/05/12 05:48 PM
3

I can't really see what he was trying to say. Either this girl is ignoring him and being flakey on dates or he is being a super stalker. The subjects of those sentence matter and completely change the context of his post. Put "I" in the subject of all those with out and you will see a guy with SEVERE oneitis. Put "She" in the subject and you will see a guy who needs to drop this selfish and immature bitch. My advice hinges on my ability to derive context from his post. So yeah...i'm being pedant…
/r/seduction17/05/12 05:47 PM
6

whoosh
/r/seduction17/05/12 05:19 PM
3

"hey, my name is yok, whats yours?" Works every time.
/r/seduction17/05/12 05:16 PM
-2

you only f-close the first time. Anytime after that...it just sex. Was she checking her FB profile all the time or were you? You need to add subjects to your sentences, i can't follow.
/r/seduction17/05/12 05:12 PM
5

My old roommate use to do that too. I started pre warning girls i brought over. it was pretty funny. he'd cook for them, wait on them hand and foot, and then when its going to bed time, he'd ask if they wanted to watch a movie his room, they'd laugh and say no thanks and come fuck me. He got the picture after the 5th or 6th girl. But still whenever we'd throw house parties, he'd always hit on the girls i was talking to. You just gotta out play them.
/r/seduction16/05/12 03:25 PM
67

Welcome to our world. Don't take it personally and find the next guy.
/r/seduction16/05/12 01:05 PM
2

Confidence is key here. That comment about "i dont want to seem self absorbed"? Get that shit out of here. As far as you are concerned, you are the most awesome person in the room and you want to give every guy you find attractive a chance to get to know you. Maintaining strong eye contact and smiling at the initial eye catch is key. That is an instant trigger to just about ANY male that you are interested and open. Like heatherfly said, sometimes you might have to repeat this process a few time…
/r/seduction16/05/12 01:04 PM
0

HOLY SHIT YES.
/r/seduction16/05/12 04:14 AM
2

This wasn't an anecdote, it was a hyperbole to explain that's perfectly normal to feel intimidated but it should by no means stop you from interacting
/r/seduction11/05/12 02:51 PM
11

All the fuck time. I use to steal shit from Tucker max all the time and my friends get wild eyed when it works. "Hey come sit on my lap. Why? So our crotches can get better aquatinted" "I have VD and i will treat you like a second class citizen, wanna buy me pizza?" "you don't want to dance with me, ill just throw up in your purse and steal your ATM card" I stared a girl's left hand the entire conversation. At first she was confused, then pissed, then worried, then laughed it off like i was joki…
/r/seduction11/05/12 01:13 PM
8

i get intimidated by the mail lady. But that never...ever stops me. Bravery isn't not ever feeling fear, but charging ahead in the face of that fear.
/r/seduction11/05/12 12:57 PM
2

Dude....really? Instead of questioning literally everyone in this post, just listen and learn.
/r/seduction11/05/12 12:47 PM
7

fuck that ladder. Get touchy on minute 3. Stop using the tools as a crutch.
/r/seduction11/05/12 12:46 PM
1

Any waves?
/r/seduction09/05/12 12:54 PM
2

I know right...and i wasn't even being sarcastic.
/r/seduction08/05/12 06:31 PM
6

Yeah but once they tell those rules...then you know you are in. I love that aspect of it. "Just so you know, i wont sleep with a guy till date 4" and you get laid that night. It's so nice.
/r/seduction08/05/12 04:21 PM
0

YOLOLOLO!!!!
/r/seduction08/05/12 01:43 PM
1

yeup!
/r/seduction08/05/12 12:58 PM
3

I love when girls call me creepy, because of a music video that a famous comedy rap troupe put out, there is a fun dance that accompanies it.
/r/seduction08/05/12 12:49 PM
7

This isn't you asking a girl over, this is you having a fun convo with a girl. You need to set up definite parameters and actually say "hey come over to my house" not this "come on down and tear it up" crap. That means nothing to a girl with options and a social life.
/r/seduction07/05/12 07:43 PM
51

i love the "you are so creepy" comments. Now, thanks to the lonely island, i start doing the creep dance and walk away.
/r/seduction07/05/12 06:09 PM
0

Go find another girl. The only alpha way.
/r/seduction07/05/12 06:04 PM
2

I mean THE 20Q's. PUA need to be more creative with their titles.
/r/seduction03/05/12 06:09 PM
12

That sounds like a fun game....but all these gurus and dating sites need to come up with original names. I will not have my precious 20Q's be bastardized because they can't be bothered to find a new name.
/r/seduction03/05/12 04:48 PM
4

I dont think 20 Questions is the game you think you are playing. 20 Questions is a game where you think of something and they try to guess it by asking 20 or less questions.
/r/seduction03/05/12 04:33 PM
0

Find another girl and make plans with her.
/r/seduction25/04/12 08:36 PM
10

then break up with your gf and sleep with the multitudes of women at your disposal
/r/seduction24/04/12 06:03 PM
4

then why do you have a girlfriend if you want to keep other sexual lines open?
/r/seduction24/04/12 05:04 PM
13

Not be a sleeze ball? You don't have to "keep things open" You just open things back up if you ever break up. Why the fuck would you start to a date girl intentionally keeping open up lines with other girls? If this is the case...don't get a gf.
/r/seduction24/04/12 04:49 PM
29

are you kidding me, you helped out a fellow coworker....how the fuck is that humiliating? You need to work on some self confidence. You didn't fail anything.
/r/seduction23/04/12 03:03 PM
1

here's a hint, girls are just as nervous as guys. Maybe she's decided to do something about it.
/r/seduction20/04/12 02:09 PM
7

It's not what you say...its how you say it.
/r/seduction17/04/12 03:12 PM
3

"Probably at home playing video games instead of being out living their lives, where are yours?"
/r/seduction17/04/12 03:12 PM
0

HB10 would fuck!
/r/seduction16/04/12 06:30 PM
1

WTF this isn't game theory. I was very interested in to what events took place. This is lame. I want my 7 minutes back.
/r/seduction13/04/12 05:10 PM
4

Nothing to decode, she is getting validation off your advances. Its a physical compliment. Stop pushing so hard and make her chase you.
/r/seduction12/04/12 03:30 PM
1

Introvert does not imply supplication.
/r/seduction09/04/12 08:43 PM
2

Nice...i was about to say "calling someone gay is not an AMOG destroyer" Good job
/r/seduction09/04/12 08:16 PM
7

I love girls like this. Good job on handling her the way you did. Some people just have a chip on their shoulder. Being an attractive female just allows her to get away with it.
/r/seduction04/04/12 07:54 PM
1

It's not that hard when you are really having a good time. I had one girl demand i go hit on another before she'd talk to me. that one was hilarious.
/r/seduction29/03/12 01:35 PM
1

text someone else...
/r/seduction28/03/12 07:42 PM
1

you should have asked her to finger you under your skirt....but still boss
/r/seduction28/03/12 07:40 PM
1

I'm with holepunch....the best thing you can do is not to give a shit and do whatever you want. Feel like photobombing, do it up. push the girl out of the way and take a picture with your friend Y...do that too. Yell out goose and chase B around the circle....BONG!!!!
/r/seduction28/03/12 07:35 PM
3

Yep. Smarmy and smirky attitude that says "this questions is as ridiculous as the question you just asked me" goes very far.
/r/seduction27/03/12 05:49 PM
1

I've said that at least 5 times. At no point are you begging.
/r/seduction27/03/12 05:23 PM
-4

"Depends, are we getting naked later?" Balls back in her court.
/r/seduction27/03/12 03:16 PM
1

That's some good shit right there.
/r/seduction26/03/12 05:17 PM
2

catch up on the comment chain bro, you are behind. And i never hated on anyone. If someone derives value out of this, then fine. But I took offense to its endorsement.
/r/seduction23/03/12 09:21 PM
3

I can't come up with a good reply at this moment. I was probably over zealous with my original comment. Something about that website really didn't sit well with me. For me, it'd be a huge waste of money, but i can see how someone could find value in it. And I hate that angle of "girls are superior to boys at fashion" line. GRRR
/r/seduction23/03/12 08:06 PM
2

Fuck EVERYTHING about that website. 70 bucks a month for a single piece of clothing, "Female-selected"? What a crock of shit. It it was a fashion expert or professional, gender shouldn't matter. And if it's just a person off the street, what the fuck would some random chick know about shoulder line and crotch ride? About as much as the random guy knowing about bust adjustment. What a fucking rip off. There are hundreds of FREE fashion sites out there that show you how to dress sharply from a Tar…
/r/seduction23/03/12 07:18 PM
3

Ah...touche.
/r/seduction23/03/12 05:44 PM
1

but you just said you don't "boom" anything....liar....
/r/seduction23/03/12 05:12 PM
-5

then just stop paying for her. its that simple. You go out to dinner, pay for yourself, ask the waiter if he could split it. BOOM, new precedent.
/r/seduction23/03/12 04:21 PM
31

You don't have to spin it. "I don't really use facebook" If girl reacts badly to that, next her and find one that isn't retarded.
/r/seduction23/03/12 04:10 PM
27

If a girl offers up "i'm not going to sleep with you" chances are sex is on her mind.
/r/seduction23/03/12 02:19 PM
1

Try venturing out on your own in 'Cuse. From the FB friends i have that go there, there are some very fine girls that roam that place.
/r/seduction20/03/12 11:57 PM
2

The Orange doesn't have a college bar? I find it hard to believe one of the largets NCAA sports francises doesn't have a decent bar scene. But it might just be a southern thing. I heard the surrounding areas of Buffalo can be pretty hopping. I have quite a few friends from there, but i have no idea how far away that is from you.
/r/seduction20/03/12 09:01 PM
1

It's not about what you say. its how you say it. I could go up to a girl and gush at her, tell her how amazing she is, how much her eyes glow and how i find her hair irresistible, as long as i say it with a steady frame and play off of it, its cool. How you compliment a girl is completely up to the emotional state it comes from.
/r/seduction20/03/12 04:22 PM
1

Depending on where you live, you can totally drive to a decent sized city. Unless you are out in the middle of fuck-balls Wyoming.
/r/seduction20/03/12 01:06 PM
0

The "From the moderators desk" in this forum is like "HEY COMMUNITY, WAKE THE FUCK UP AND START FUCKING BITCHES"
/r/seduction20/03/12 01:05 PM
2

yeah, rock on.
/r/seduction16/03/12 07:06 PM
2

Its not about impressing the ladies, its about having fun for yourself.
/r/seduction16/03/12 01:26 PM
1

into the into the Into the niiiight! I love that song. But i cant remember it either. You need to come to the ATL this summer, we got some pretty hot spots for that early to mid 20's range.
/r/seduction16/03/12 01:24 PM
16

Dude...on the Ides of March...not cool.
/r/seduction16/03/12 01:23 PM
2

You tried WAY to hard to keep it legit. The moment the first set started busting your chops, you should have went cocky funny and started fucking them and making jokes. By sticking with your original bullshit story, they thought you were lame and creepy and no fun. Be ready to break roles and switch up the frame at a moments notice. Sticking to your guns when both parties know you are full of it usually doesn't pan out well. Also don't go in thinking the approach is going to be hard. You have a …
/r/seduction15/03/12 05:30 PM
1

Yeah i'm with the train wreck mentality, don't try to control it. Just let it be. The chaos is what makes it fun.
/r/seduction08/03/12 04:09 PM
2

that girl is a dumbass, don't associate with her again.
/r/seduction05/03/12 04:41 PM
1

Stop responding, tell her you are in two different places one time then cut off all communication.
/r/seduction29/02/12 05:37 PM
3

are you complaining or what? Take it as a compliment.
/r/seduction29/02/12 04:03 PM
2

I think separating the two is going to give beginners more problems in the transition from beginner to intermediate. Just like throwing a baby in the water to teach it to swim, the same can and should be done for pick up.
/r/seduction29/02/12 03:49 PM
4

But i'm also arguing about cutting this out for the newbies too. It helps only in the very beginning, but it sets them up for a very long transition into inner game and focusing on natural flow. I think if you start with natural flow, get them just use to talking to someone with off the top topics, that will produce better results in the long run. I think the biggest advice here isn't to focus on what to do when, but rather become comfortable enough at any point to lead the conversation where yo…
/r/seduction28/02/12 09:17 PM
3

Because this community has been moving away from a structure like this for a very long time. Less structure, more natural flow. By pigging back on a structure, you don't actually fix the real problems you are having. If you want to discuss those problem area, by all means, however this type of rigid "do this at this time, then do this" is only going to hurt you in the long run.
/r/seduction28/02/12 06:21 PM
12

Don't do shit like this. Just focus on having a good time and engaging your targets.
/r/seduction28/02/12 04:42 PM
28

Ah, that works. Congrats man.
/r/seduction28/02/12 04:40 PM
58

You said in your story you didn't have sex with her. How did you lose your virginity?
/r/seduction28/02/12 04:28 PM
1

Because social anxiety is not a psychological or medical disorder to diagnose and treat?
/r/seduction14/02/12 06:56 PM
18

super relative to most of the people reading this.
/r/seduction14/02/12 04:33 PM
27

So he is super rich and professionally talks to make people happy and feel empowered? Yeah not even close to the same category. But damn his wife is hot.
/r/seduction14/02/12 03:14 PM
3

This is plagued with confirmation bias and superstition. Acting like an asshole attacks drug dealers and homeless people? I agree with your overall premise about pick-up not being bad, but the rest of it is just really poor rationalization.
/r/seduction14/02/12 02:43 PM
3

sssuuuUUUUP?
/r/seduction14/02/12 02:15 PM
1

My short friend pulls way more ass than I do. High five to all the short playas out there
/r/seduction14/02/12 01:51 PM
1

Okay in base numbers, i think the most important thing is something you can't control. Most all women polled say they prefer height. Which is total and utter bullshit when it comes down to how they actually behave. I've known tons of girls who said they'd never date anyone shorter than 6'0" and then jump all over my friend who is 5'5". Because he's got game for days and is a funny motherfucker. What women say they want in a "perfect" setting is FAR from different from what they actually want whe…
/r/seduction14/02/12 01:51 PM
2

Stop caring if girls think you are bullshitting with them, change the subject.
/r/seduction13/02/12 03:55 PM
8

Not worrying about this shit is the most important.
/r/seduction13/02/12 03:50 PM
1

Do what you want, fuck what people online say, and test it yourself. You go out in a suit and people respond positively, then sweet. If not, don't do it or tweak it a bit.
/r/seduction13/02/12 03:31 PM
1

The most dark, vile piece of porn ever made. I read about it....in People.
/r/seduction10/02/12 09:02 PM
1

I ignore that feeling and do what i want.
/r/seduction10/02/12 07:39 PM
5

yeah man. always take the free make out. That's like walking through publix and you chat up the cute but slightly older and overweight samples lady and she's all. Well i just ran out of samples, but two isles over my co-worker has some samples available and she just recently won a hot dog eating contest by swallowing them whole. And you get one isle over and start to talk to the guy with a monkey in a top hat. IGNORE THE MONKEY, GO FOR THE DEEPTHROAT.
/r/seduction10/02/12 02:01 PM
21

Why did you not make out with the married girl's friend?
/r/seduction09/02/12 03:11 PM
2

jeally
/r/seduction03/02/12 04:07 AM
1

yeah they do
/r/seduction02/02/12 06:05 PM
29

FUCK HER IN THE WOODS! BITCHES LOVE THAT SHIT!
/r/seduction02/02/12 04:28 PM
2

Don't assume girls think being in a frat is high value. My friends that live in charleston say this shit to me all the fucking time. "Dude Charleston chicks only care about money and being in a frat, and if you don't look like either of that, you won't get any where" and then they are always amazed when i bring a chick home or go home with one just about every time i visit. And they still won't change their mind. They are so set on the paradigm of money and status they don't understand the value…
/r/seduction31/01/12 03:08 PM
2

they show up and just get to answer questions instead of hitting f5 and waiting for new ones to roll up.
/r/seduction30/01/12 06:54 PM
1

Good job.
/r/seduction30/01/12 05:41 PM
1

i meant the whole bleach thing...bleh
/r/seduction28/01/12 08:37 AM
2

It's the same dude, and excessive exaggeration is makes it hard to figure out what exactly is going on.
/r/seduction27/01/12 06:26 PM
1

That does not sound fun.
/r/seduction27/01/12 06:25 PM
2

Is that like ecstasy?
/r/seduction27/01/12 05:45 PM
4

Wow, hostile much?
/r/seduction27/01/12 05:44 PM
2

A) What is molly? B) Yes, yes you can. Also your hyperbole is really annoying. Stick to the details and keep it simple.
/r/seduction27/01/12 03:07 PM
1

Its Hot Babe, and it only partially deals with a females general attractiveness.
/r/seduction27/01/12 03:25 AM
-5

Because it makes you want to hug me, then hug her
/r/seduction26/01/12 08:40 PM
2

you don't back pedal. She lets you know it's serious and you say something like "that's cool, had to go with it, now you have to hook me up with one of your friends"
/r/seduction24/01/12 07:06 AM
2

Don't worry about facebook relationships. Chick gives you her number and then opens you up with a "next time i see you" is interested. Chances are her "relationship" isn't that serious. Don't put her out of your radar yet. Make a meet and see whats up.
/r/seduction23/01/12 09:29 PM
2

some giggle and ask for suggestions, some say "what" because they didn't understand what i said and others say "nah, just doing blah blah"
/r/seduction20/01/12 09:40 PM
3

The fact that you are even thinking about this shit shows that you care waaaay too much. If a guy is being a douchebag, i laugh at him, if he is a cool guy who gives off a strong vibe, i talk to him and make friends.
/r/seduction20/01/12 05:00 PM
4

Uselessly ask them if i can help them sext someone.
/r/seduction20/01/12 02:19 PM
2

some guys pretend to be gay, or try to emulate their best gay inorder to fly under radar's.
/r/seduction17/01/12 09:11 PM
3

An A class pinto actually fetches a shit load of money at auction.
/r/seduction17/01/12 04:25 PM
7

yeah most people aren't seeing how easy it is for a woman to fly under the radar and get almost instant comfort and rapport. All other factors even, she is going to have an easier job than ANY man would.
/r/seduction17/01/12 04:24 PM
0

For the guys who this information is tailored to, woman and men operate on a different basis, take emotional cues differently and require a complete re-tooling of social interactions than what most of the guys that frequent here are use to. Understanding that men and women aren't all that different is one of the linchpins of proper "game" development.
/r/seduction13/01/12 09:27 PM
3

yeah my nice friend tries to act more like me and he comes off as an even bigger douche, it's kinda funny.
/r/seduction13/01/12 06:16 PM
3

holy shit...this is a game changer
/r/seduction13/01/12 06:15 PM
3

You just said what i said. Its up to both people. Usually when one person cheats, its because the other isn't living up their end of the bargain. Which is essentially what i said. It is one partner's role to keep the other interested and attracted.
/r/seduction12/01/12 07:29 PM
1

His existence as a PUA and probably not full of shit. I made no comment about the quality of women he pulls. Just that his methodology and experience are probably accurate.
/r/seduction12/01/12 05:49 PM
1

You just said he is probably full of shit. I was pointing out that he is probably not.
/r/seduction12/01/12 04:49 PM
1

And Ross Jeffries is a real person. I was merely commenting on the post of "I bet this person is lying or full of shit", trying to valid the existence of this person.
/r/seduction12/01/12 03:40 PM
1

I don't know his name, he use to post in alt.seduction.fast a bit.
/r/seduction12/01/12 03:32 PM
4

This is a very old thread written by a very well known PUA.
/r/seduction12/01/12 03:01 PM
2

No True Scottsman.
/r/seduction12/01/12 03:01 PM
5

yeah. But slightly different The number one rule is don't bring someone to the material who isn't ready. You need to hit rock bottom and go searching this shit out. We shouldn't be handing advice out to guys like it's fucking candy on the fourth of July. Only someone who truly, desperately needs this information, will be able to contextualize it properly. This one of the first tenants that Strauss talked about in the Game.
/r/seduction12/01/12 03:00 PM
-1

He said that he thinks they are, but that it shouldn't be the inference for everyone...did we read the same post? It's one persons opinion.
/r/seduction12/01/12 02:54 PM
0

Yeah understanding this shit is key to keeping a woman happy through a LTR.
/r/seduction12/01/12 02:49 PM
8

No, no you can't. Ruin that shit for the rest of us.
/r/seduction12/01/12 02:48 PM
-1

the word you are looking for is sexist. Misogyny is hatred or vilification of women.
/r/seduction12/01/12 02:47 PM
5

There are others. There is the "good relationship" where the guy is keeping the woman emotionally and physically desired, as if a PUA settled down. That one is rare but it does happen. I've been on the other end of several types of relationships and the only one i couldn't crack, or rather, the girls i wasn't successful with, i eventually met their boyfriends and these guys were cool as hell, obviously keeping their women happy. Happy women usually don't cheat.
/r/seduction12/01/12 02:43 PM
10

It's not globally wrong, but there are people out there that will cheat at a drop of a hat, both women and men. It's no secret. But not ALL women or even a majority of them cheat. And when they do cheat, i'd be willing to be well more than half do it because of boredom and stagnation in the relationship, and not out of some black desire to just get fucked by random dicks. Bless them if they do.
/r/seduction12/01/12 02:30 PM
12

Yeah and i'm charging you with the task of becoming the expert in this. Go forth and become....a guru.
/r/seduction11/01/12 06:27 PM
2

instead of asking us our opinion, in every single one of those stories, you should have just gone for it and found out. You have all the tools to find out, there is not special between the guys that get laid consistently and yourself. Try it and let us know.
/r/seduction11/01/12 06:07 PM
2

Tell that girl you want her to fuck you in the ass, hard and fast. Don't worry about any of the other bullshit. She's not down, next her to someone who is.
/r/seduction10/01/12 08:36 PM
6

This is too fucked up. Get this shit out r/seduction.
/r/seduction09/01/12 06:31 PM
2

16 and an idiot about love and relationships....we were all that guy.
/r/seduction09/01/12 01:25 PM
2

Talk to them like they are normal people, seriously engage them about their private lives, things they like to do. You can make a few porn jokes but don't go overboard. And other guys will recognize these girls, if they get approached judge their reaction. Some girls are cool about it and don't mind talking to their fans, others don't want to be bothered. Be ready to jump in and help her out if its the later. Also try your best to mentally record the night, and get photos. Make one hell of a fie…
/r/seduction06/01/12 03:14 PM
2

Almost everyone in the adult industry has herpes. FTFY
/r/seduction06/01/12 03:13 PM
25

Bitches love smiley faces.
/r/seduction04/01/12 03:53 PM
1

Go talk to people.
/r/seduction20/12/11 04:05 PM
1

If i saw a girl like that, i'd assume she was on coke and wanted to suck my dick. Thumbs up. Also props on Seth Myers for semi- staying in character. Jimmy Fallon would have lost it.
/r/seduction17/12/11 04:50 PM
1

Again, you can put all the spin and interpretation you want on them. They were defined to be a certain thing and be used in a certain manor. The man who came up with the phrase and codified the technique laid it out. If you want to reinterpret it, you can. But the base purpose is a structured way to tease. It's a very specific tease as not all forms of teasing are the same.
/r/seduction16/12/11 02:46 AM
6

You said it yourself. There were no real indicators. She kept her distance the whole night up to the point she took your number. This is a place for discussion, but you also get tough love here. The situation you described warrants the later. Just ask her to do something with you and see how she behaves not around anyone else.
/r/seduction16/12/11 01:19 AM
1

Disagree all you want, that's the genesis of the term and how its been used for the past 8 years. Just because people try to take it and change it and adapt it to their methods and world views doesn't mean anything. Negging is codified teasing. Go email formhandle and he will tell you same exact thing.
/r/seduction16/12/11 01:17 AM
4

The kind of stuff where "This girl gave me her number, what do i do?" No, there is no discussion to have here. You call her up and ask her out. Now if you go out on the date with her and get all sorts of weird signals and behavior, try some things out and then come back and post, we can have a good discussion about things.
/r/seduction15/12/11 10:17 PM
1

That's not how negging is used. it was never about being above her, its about showing her that she isn't above you. At it heart, its been a calculated, structured, playful tease. From the man who coined the term himself (i'm not saying it's me, but that's the explanation he gave)
/r/seduction15/12/11 10:13 PM
2

Those weren't negs, those were some guy trying to sound cooler than he is. I wouldn't worry about it.
/r/seduction15/12/11 10:12 PM
4

Are you kidding me? WHAT THE FUCK MAN?! CALL HER THE FUCK UP AND ASK HER THE FUCK OUT?! Jesus Christ Kid. Are you fucking mental?
/r/seduction15/12/11 10:06 PM
6

That's not what they are for at all. Go field test so fun negs and get back to me.
/r/seduction15/12/11 01:55 PM
1

I've already asked for this twice, the major players of the sub as well as most of the mods disagree. Maybe if more people want it you might be able to sway them.
/r/seduction14/12/11 02:14 PM
6

No it's not.
/r/seduction13/12/11 09:47 PM
1

Make up a nickname for yourself.
/r/seduction13/12/11 08:58 PM
2

Fuck her brains out, cuddle with her, make breakfast.
/r/seduction09/12/11 04:25 PM
1

Short answer no Long answer NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :-D
/r/seduction09/12/11 04:03 PM
2

I meant his normal lectures. All his bootcamps are like this.
/r/seduction09/12/11 03:20 AM
5

Yeah, that's the most expensive standup routine you'd ever see.
/r/seduction08/12/11 09:44 PM
1

And people wonder why i don't really care for tyler, but he is a funny motherfucker.
/r/seduction08/12/11 08:30 PM
2

"What's you favorite position?" It's steering and it's recon. A twofer.
/r/seduction30/11/11 07:48 PM
1

Exactly.
/r/seduction29/11/11 08:17 PM
5

Do what you want.
/r/seduction23/11/11 02:33 PM
0

um....i just stopped giving a fuck. I have no idea how the process came about. One day i was just like, fuck it, they don't know me and i don't care what they think, imma do me. And its been gravy ever sense.
/r/seduction18/11/11 02:54 PM
4

I'm with NickTDS This is not a healthy aproach to women. Calling girls hogs and then advocating fucking them until you level up to hot women is fucking retarded. It was funny in 40 Year Old Virgin as a joke, but real advice make is sociopathic.
/r/seduction16/11/11 07:32 PM
3

Yeah dude is seriously fucked. Like twice over.
/r/seduction16/11/11 07:30 PM
63

Fuck that, assume she is looking at you and ask her to get lunch with you after class.
/r/seduction09/11/11 09:35 PM
1

I want to play chess on the futon.
/r/seduction09/11/11 09:24 PM
2

Did you mean to post this here?
/r/seduction09/11/11 05:30 PM
103

Playing Skyrim....why is this even a fucking question?
/r/seduction09/11/11 01:54 PM
1

isolation tank is a completely different experience. I've spent hours caving and night walking. There is nothing wrong with being without light. Being with out sound...that shit is freaky.
/r/seduction04/11/11 01:07 PM
2

hey good talk is my line. good talk.
/r/seduction03/11/11 10:53 PM
2

Nope. Again that's something taught, not inherited. Granted Human's are not apex animals, we have fear. Something other apex predators / animals lack. However inherited fear / instinct is only falling and loud noises. Loud / strange noises > dark. There is on reason to be afraid of the dark. Perfectly good reasons to pass on being afraid of strange noises.
/r/seduction03/11/11 10:21 PM
10

1) Have fun
/r/seduction03/11/11 10:06 PM
2

That's cultural. There is no good evolutionary reason human's should be afraid of the dark.
/r/seduction03/11/11 10:01 PM
3

Also smiley's. Bitches love smiley's
/r/seduction03/11/11 02:11 PM
2

The super long haired brunette is my version of a 10. If that was her real hair.
/r/seduction01/11/11 10:13 PM
2

Find another girl.
/r/seduction28/10/11 01:50 PM
1

I wasn't really seeking advice, but thanks. I'm just messing with Tofu.
/r/seduction28/10/11 01:06 PM
1

I need to move to the bay area. I'm only pulling 53k in Atl....
/r/seduction28/10/11 02:36 AM
3

mPUA's fuck in bathrooms and park benches ;)
/r/seduction28/10/11 02:33 AM
2

What's this red spot on my dick? Costume - Going as myself.
/r/seduction28/10/11 02:28 AM
1

I have hope.
/r/seduction26/10/11 05:53 AM
1

You know me, and it's happened. My two longest relationships happened after we slept together on the first night.
/r/seduction26/10/11 03:24 AM
1

Well that i can understand and commend you for it. If it is a personal reason, that makes total sense. However the beef most everyone had was your statement about the trustworthiness of a girl who fucks on the first date. You gotta admit that one was off the mark.
/r/seduction25/10/11 07:36 PM
0

This isn't an argument, its a debate. We are all trying to grow as people here. You presented your side, and when others rebutted, you attacked everyone and stuck your fingers in your ears like a child.
/r/seduction25/10/11 07:21 PM
7

No its because you have an unhealthy attitude towards sex and relationships. Having a crap ton of ONS then saying, oh this is boring i want the 'real' thing now, then saying any girl that fucks on the first date is less trust worthy than other girls shows a severe lack of perspective. The point everyone is trying to make is that you can do both. You can fuck on the first night and that can progress to a healthy relationship. You are also free to wait and see what develops with out sex. Those are…
/r/seduction25/10/11 01:42 PM
1

Anyone can have any number of reasons why they would make you wait. There is whole club out there devoted to the three date to try and manipulate their way into relationship not based on trust and attraction, but on this mythos that waiting it good. Just because a girl doesn't fuck you on the first night has no bearing on her morality or trustworthiness. You just put blinders on to that fact.
/r/seduction25/10/11 01:26 PM
0

I agree with you. There is just a ton of new blood who still put pussy on a pedestal and are programmed to think like Cosmo wants them to.
/r/seduction25/10/11 01:24 PM
2

then up your locale. Start picking up models at a runway ;)
/r/seduction21/10/11 02:03 PM
1

oh you are trying to say because my user name is of Japanese origin that i must be from China and therefore play video games. You suck at this, you know that?
/r/seduction20/10/11 11:41 PM
1

what?
/r/seduction20/10/11 09:55 PM
8

No, the key is there is no key. Do what you want and what makes you happy. Some guys scattershot, some have a very detailed approach. Re-read the article. The whole time the guy is saying he is mainly doing this for shits and giggles. He's out to have fun and enrich other peoples lives. He didn't even seduce this girl, this girl begged to go home with him. Yes, dating is a numbers game, but its all about how to you treat those numbers, not how you get them.
/r/seduction20/10/11 01:32 PM
14

Motherfuckers take note, that's a goddamn field report.
/r/seduction20/10/11 01:30 PM
61

Nope. I still play games and (when i was single) picked up chicks...just have to learn what makes you happy. Some people were filling a hole in their personal happiness with obsessions not hobbies. Those are the people you will find who stop doing what they use to do once they figure themselves out and start doing what the really want to do.
/r/seduction18/10/11 07:20 PM
2

that's the face i made when i read the "Not Bad" face part
/r/seduction17/10/11 06:51 PM
1

No texting, not give a fuck, ask another girl out. If this girl gets back with you later tonight or in a day or two just say 'no problem, made other plans, don't worry about it' texting now with "i've made other plans" is fucking lame, don't do that shit.
/r/seduction17/10/11 05:42 PM
1

I spent the first 2 years on alt.seduction.fast talking with the fore runners...so i guess M3 started it, but then i got out there and learned everything else on my own and didn't really need all of that to help me along. That's a shit ton of material and i would argue its probably hurting you more than helping to try and digest it all.
/r/seduction13/10/11 08:22 PM
1

yeah thats probably not going to work at a gay bar.
/r/seduction08/10/11 03:45 PM
1

So what is your definition of a "best" post?
/r/seduction30/09/11 12:23 PM
6

There is a sideboard for a reason....
/r/seduction29/09/11 09:38 PM
8

The fact that you have a plan is the critique of the plan. just got sit down and talk to her. About anything.
/r/seduction29/09/11 08:37 PM
2

Oh i have boat loads of rejection stories and blow outs. My fav version is "I cant believe you are still talking to me"
/r/seduction22/09/11 01:56 PM
1

You don't join the leagues that the bowling alley sponsors. You join the bowling drinking leagues you find on Meetup or CitySportsSearch.
/r/seduction21/09/11 12:13 PM
4

join a club sport. Kickball, softball, dodgeball, bowling. Any of those things will net you new friends.
/r/seduction20/09/11 04:58 PM
0

Look us in the eye, smile, wave, wink. Any of those things and i will walk right over to you. Look us in the eye, smile, look down slightly, bit your lip, look back up still smiling, giggle, look away. I will walk right over to you Grab my arm when i walk past "Hey i like your shirt". I will talk to you.
/r/seduction20/09/11 03:03 PM
2

that's still too fast to be taken seriously. You are lucky that you have found sexuality open girls, but now that you are cashing that in, you will be looked at as a booty call buddy, not a romantic interest. You could always hang out with them with out fucking them and see if you can find sparks that way.
/r/seduction19/09/11 07:06 PM
3

that's still too fast to be taken seriously. You are lucky that you have found sexuality open girls, but now that you are cashing that in, you will be looked at as a booty call buddy, not a romantic interest. You could always hang out with them with out fucking them and see if you can find sparks that way.
/r/seduction19/09/11 07:06 PM
1

Fair enough. Enjoy the discussion then.
/r/seduction19/09/11 06:50 PM
1

well im more addressing the people who will never change their mind, that don't understand what the community is about and don't want to. Those are lost causes. I've met a few in my day and they are sad individuals.
/r/seduction19/09/11 05:25 PM
1

Fair enough. I've gotten jaded recently.
/r/seduction19/09/11 05:04 PM
1

Then we have no real reason to try to help thing, so again, this post is in vain.
/r/seduction19/09/11 04:43 PM
3

That's the point of the sidebar. This is the default answer to any newbies coming into seddit. The sidebar is the hotlink to all the discussions we've had over the years. Negs are covered to a great extent there.
/r/seduction19/09/11 04:22 PM
12

In every single bit of discussion about negs in the forum, EVERY SINGLE ONE, we go into great detail about how a neg should be framed and delivered. Not once is there a mention about talking about girls body that's they don't have control over. If she has some flashy new fake nails, that's source material for a good lighthearted joke. If she has a crooked nose or lop sided breasts, don't bring that shit up. The point is that we go over this shit on a weekly basis, and if some guys out there miss…
/r/seduction19/09/11 04:06 PM
23

I don't think you know what a neg is.
/r/seduction19/09/11 02:05 PM
1

FR[10] = 10th field report?
/r/seduction19/09/11 02:04 PM
5

Don't worry about the boyfriend line, she might have one, she might have lied to you . The "boyfriend as a shit test" doesn't work like normal ones, you don't really plow through it or ignore it. You did exactly what you should have. BF shit tests are designed to keep you at arms length until she is ready to accept the invite, mostly because HB's get propositioned all the fucking time. Next time you go in there, flirt your heart out and see if the boyfriend thing is legit. Hell if she brings up …
/r/seduction16/09/11 07:04 PM
19

I love girls that claim to be shy then are tigers in bed. It hilarious and awesome.
/r/seduction16/09/11 02:51 PM
1

Bring them in and make up stories about how they are your best friends.
/r/seduction16/09/11 02:25 PM
1

Easier. You actually talk to them and raport is much much easier to come by. Yeah your standard attention deprevation usually doesn't work. But engaging in interesting conversations have a much bigger impact. I went on a 5 minutes lightning round of shooting out random facts and trivia bits i knew with a girl that lead to us making out in a bar.
/r/seduction15/09/11 01:35 PM
2

Then why do you care about friendzoning?
/r/seduction13/09/11 09:44 PM
1

that's because it is that easy. The hard part is the 4 seconds between catching her eye and opening your mouth. Once you conquer that, you are almost home free.
/r/seduction13/09/11 09:43 PM
1

No one is telling you to devote your entire life to this shit. Just read up on a few of the beginner notes. This topis has been covered so many times. Just search "friendzone" in the seduction part and you file piles of information.
/r/seduction13/09/11 09:42 PM
3

There is no end goal. Seduction is a tool we use to make ourselves better at life. The end goal is be happy and reflect on all the good moments when we ever get a chance.
/r/seduction12/09/11 04:51 PM
2

This isn't your fault, or his fault. It's the girls you are finding. No girl i pull is going to immediately switch to another guy just because he decides to start spitting game at her half through our make out session. Up your game, escalate faster. No guy should be able to swoop in and steal a girl that is at your place.
/r/seduction12/09/11 02:02 PM
1

You could use some time away from your brain. Over analyzing things will begin to hurt you in the long run. Also you fucked up a sure thing by trying to over game her. This is because you spent too much time inside your head trying to do/say the "right" things instead of letting her guide you to her pleasure zones.
/r/seduction09/09/11 04:35 PM
1

Yeah i read that in your post. That's why i said it.
/r/seduction07/09/11 07:28 PM
1

Those IoI's you think you got, they aren't IoI's. You shouldn't think too much into that. I hear that shit all the time. Girls give out their numbers. Don't be fooled. Maybe she thought you were the bad kisser? Just forget about her and find others.
/r/seduction07/09/11 05:07 PM
1

the fact that you even think about this shows you aren't being on the top of your world. Stop giving a fuck about what this girl does and go about your life.
/r/seduction07/09/11 01:27 PM
7

When you friendzone yourself, you control the unfriendzoning.
/r/seduction07/09/11 05:40 AM
2

This isn't a case of lamenting after a girl who isn't interested in you. It's putting a potential play date on the back burner while you look for other women who are more interested in playing hide the pickle. saying "I just can't be friends with you" is mean and vindictive. Not at all what anyone should be saying.
/r/seduction07/09/11 05:39 AM
2

dont think you can't raise attraction via text. Being coy fun and playful on your texting raises attraction.
/r/seduction02/09/11 01:17 PM
12

you have reached 823-555-6969. Please leave a message after the beep. Just text her and say you forgot her name, when she reponds say i know that, i mean your last name, i always put first and last name in my phone. I do that all the fuck time.
/r/seduction01/09/11 06:46 PM
1

Learn chinese, keep not using set pieces, enjoy your time. I don't use any canned material or standard techniques any more. If you don't need em, don't think you should try to adopt some to get a girl who isn't opening up to you in the way you want.
/r/seduction31/08/11 08:06 PM
1

The feeling you have is the thing causing you to be repellant. It's a self fulfilling prophecy. Eradicate that and you will be fine.
/r/seduction31/08/11 07:41 PM
3

Whenever someone claims to have a silver bullet or an atom bomb of seduction, i immediately disqualify anything they have to say after that. This was no exception.
/r/seduction31/08/11 03:54 PM
3

You don't send a text or two, but let time build anticipation. Set up a date a few days before you get back
/r/seduction31/08/11 02:09 PM
2

What? It's another bruce lee quote....
/r/seduction31/08/11 01:21 PM
1

hahaha...its funny, because Ent is the race of tree people, and they call weed trees and they smoke it, so they call themselves Ent's. That makes no sense. What does that have to do with this?
/r/seduction31/08/11 01:21 PM
1

i don't know what that means.
/r/seduction30/08/11 09:03 PM
2

A board does not fight back
/r/seduction30/08/11 06:57 PM
1

what are you talking about?
/r/seduction30/08/11 02:31 PM
-1

what?
/r/seduction30/08/11 02:26 PM
1

Well it's from our frame of reference only, and it's situational. I'll admit, just calling this guy an AFC without even talking to him is a bit of a stretch in this case. oh well.
/r/seduction30/08/11 01:26 PM
3

yeah you should have gone into the washroom.....
/r/seduction30/08/11 01:05 PM
2

AFC and HB defines behavior, not objectiveness. We are shorthanding personalities. You'd understand that if you bothered to read up instead of just throwing out uninformed judgements.
/r/seduction30/08/11 12:28 PM
1

find another girl? I F-closed a girl who got my number to meet up again and never responded to me. Shrug.
/r/seduction29/08/11 05:05 PM
2

Just pull her to the side and talk to her. isolation is much easier in the black party dance scene.
/r/seduction29/08/11 05:04 PM
1

I think you have background context that helps you see this. Flowcharts are meant for people with out context to guide them through an alien process successfully. That's the point of flowcharts. You have to take this shit for face value because anyone who doesn't know any better will as well. At face, literal value, this flowchart is wrong in all possible manners and forms.
/r/seduction26/08/11 05:10 PM
0

Every community has a set of core goals and guidelines and a general consensus as to what makes that community. I'm not attacking you. I'm worried about the ideology that these flowcharts and similar tools represent. It's not good to follow crap like this or think it's helpful. It isn't. I've been doing this stuff for a very long time. I've run through the whole gamut. From following a very carefully laid out pattern and routine system to asking a girl to sleep with me in the bathroom as my open…
/r/seduction26/08/11 02:58 PM
2

not evolution, society. At our base urges and interactions, its really easy to pick up chicks. Throw in her friends, self image, make up, pop culture, Bill O'Rielly and December 2012, shit is rough out there these days.
/r/seduction26/08/11 12:34 PM
2

no labels. Just someone who is good with people.
/r/seduction26/08/11 05:50 AM
1

Did you not read any of the comments here. There should not be a flowchart for seduction. Conversation and interaction does not work like that.
/r/seduction25/08/11 08:49 PM
-1

And yet this community is not about that. If that's what you want. More power to you. But don't expect the community to respect that view point.
/r/seduction25/08/11 08:48 PM
0

I think i'm at the appropriate level of "this shit is bad for our community"
/r/seduction25/08/11 07:32 PM
2

Yep. That's what i call a player. Someone who lies and manipulates people to extract what they want. I dont consider someone who is good with women and gets laid a lot a player.
/r/seduction25/08/11 05:28 PM
4

Put a password on it, change the defalt icon and name make it be like "BankAccount" or something boring like that. NINJA THAT SHIT!
/r/seduction25/08/11 05:19 PM
-1

It is retarded. I'm sad i actually had to lay all that out for people. You should be able to analyze something like this and realize how much crap it is and how bad for your social development this is.
/r/seduction25/08/11 05:12 PM
10

NO NO NO A conversation shouldn't be like anything. You can go comfort first, its cool. There is not set directive to this. There are basic, BROAD sweeping phases, which help explain the underlying principles of attraction. That's it. These aren't literal steps you must follow every time. But a guideline to understand how someone can go from stranger to sex partner in a night.
/r/seduction25/08/11 05:11 PM
9

The point of a flow chart is to be literal. Yours is the logical fallacy, not the other way around. A flow chart is designed to show you the literal process to proceed from one step to another. It's sickening to think that there are people who look at shit like this and go "YESSS this is what i need" What you need is to understand that the word "dynamics" has a meaning. It's dynamic, it changes on the fly. Trying to put seduction into a flowchart is tantamount to the sargeaholics and routine-rob…
/r/seduction25/08/11 05:08 PM
4

No....no this isn't awesome. You are talking to a person. Not putting together an erector set. Read my comments below.
/r/seduction25/08/11 05:02 PM
10

It's not helpful at all to someone who is new. Its WAAAAY too much information right off the bat. Trying to triage this while new to pick up will have you standing there thinking about the next "proper" step instead of interacting with your group. It might be helpful for someone who is an intermediate, someone who understands the basics and is looking for help in escalation and dynamic conversation. Then this is too on rails, too specific. Seduction is an art, not a chemistry set. While there ar…
/r/seduction25/08/11 05:01 PM
14

This is retarded.
/r/seduction25/08/11 02:05 PM
1

Have fun?
/r/seduction24/08/11 02:34 PM
1

Fair enough. I enjoy fucking with my blow outs. It entertains me to make a girl who rejected me on some esoteric basis uncomfortable. Maybe I'm an asshole, but i've always been entertained by the awkward moments in movies and shit like that. Plus fuck them. I'm cute funny adorable and smart. If a girl blows me out, she's got the problem.
/r/seduction24/08/11 01:18 PM
6

Two different tactics for two different situations. Both are applicable given the right context.
/r/seduction23/08/11 03:14 PM
1

The "most alphaist" is to not base your actions around her and do whatever you want. Wanna fight fire with fire? Have at it. Laugh in her face and walk away? Sure. Want to try to act cool and unphased? You betcha The important part is that you aren't doing anything for the sake of your image to the girl, but whatever it is you want to do.
/r/seduction23/08/11 01:14 PM
1

I have a girlfriend, so I'm not actively picking up chicks, but i read/comment just about everyday. As long as you have gotten or can get field experience, no thing wrong with kicking the ball around a bit. But if you are single and capable, don't let seddit become and excuse to not go out.
/r/seduction22/08/11 08:35 PM
3

Very good response.
/r/seduction22/08/11 02:30 PM
2

You can be emotionally responsive when someone out right insults you. it's no longer fun and campy, but down right rude.
/r/seduction22/08/11 02:29 PM
2

That's the point. OP no longer gives a shit about this girl. Now he is just fucking with her.
/r/seduction22/08/11 02:27 PM
2

Yes that is the proper response. Also "You are too fucking pretentious for me, but that doesn't mean i won't eat your pussy like it's 3 am Taco bell" When you have nothing to loose, you have the most freedom.
/r/seduction22/08/11 02:26 PM
1

Yes, but when you realize that there are people who are disengenous to the community, you should ignore them. In any system, there will always be people who lie and misrepresent to try to take advantage of others. Its our job as members of this community to separate the two.
/r/seduction20/08/11 07:43 AM
1

Using appropriately doesn't guarantee it will work every time. However its highly unlikely to have any positive effect if used inappropriately.
/r/seduction20/08/11 07:41 AM
1

Im not talking about what i do. Im talking about the definition of the scale.
/r/seduction20/08/11 07:38 AM
1

i prefer the "ill try anything once" version myself.
/r/seduction19/08/11 09:27 PM
2

well if you don't actually say anything and just stand in the middle of the room smiling....yeah probably.
/r/seduction19/08/11 09:27 PM
1

Lol....love it.
/r/seduction19/08/11 09:08 PM
2

Example A) No you decrease her value based on that - Ugly girl who is catty probably has huge self esteem issues, which lowers her self-perception Vicki's model who is down to earth and fun is not enough to determine her HB. If her physicality isn't affecting the way she dealing with guys, not being standoffish and is open to everyone, her HB rating goes down. The problem is most writers of FR's don't know how this is supposed to work, so they just assign a girl a value based on how hot they thi…
/r/seduction19/08/11 09:00 PM
5

All of these critiques miss the WHOLE point of the scale. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PURE PHYSICAL ATTRACTIVENESS! Its about evaluating how a girl value's herself.
/r/seduction19/08/11 08:56 PM
2

The ranking system isn't about how hot you think she is. It's an analysis of what you think she values herself at. Hotness does equal value if that's what you value. If you want an attractive girl, then it is valuable. And a girls self-perceived hotness will affect the way she reacts to your attention. Thinking differently is just being naive. I like the rest of what you've said. it's what I've been preaching around here for the past year. Good job. Just remember, attractiveness of both parties …
/r/seduction19/08/11 08:52 PM
1

I'm trying to help you, but the dense is strong with these people.
/r/seduction19/08/11 08:31 PM
1

And one of those involves strategy. That's the whole point i was making. Measured action to accomplish a goal requires the use of strategy. if not, you are making inane actions, throwing darts blindly.
/r/seduction19/08/11 08:30 PM
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He didn't say that, he just action wtr to seduction. I was providing action with out strategy. You mean i actually have to talk to girls to get them to sleep with me? That sounds like strategy to me.
/r/seduction19/08/11 08:05 PM
0

Nope, learned nothing, i will still cluck like a chicken because its still doing actions which could work. eventually...maybe?
/r/seduction19/08/11 08:05 PM
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yaeh i can go into a bar, cluck like a chicken, buy a girl a drink, play pool, then ask her to come home with me. That might work, but i have effectively done nothing....especially when i realize that clucking like a chicken isn't going to get me laid.
/r/seduction19/08/11 07:40 PM
2

If you act to develop strategy, that in and of itself is a strategy
/r/seduction19/08/11 05:58 PM
-1

Um...you gain strategy when you learn from experience. You need both....you just said so yourself. I can go out and dance like a monkey and pour drinks on my head every night. That's action with out strategy.
/r/seduction19/08/11 05:57 PM
2

Well yeah, but my point is that peacocking does have its place. it works, when used appropriately
/r/seduction19/08/11 05:40 PM
3

I dare you, one time, just one fucking time, wear a feather boa to a club and have a huge smile on your face the whole time.
/r/seduction19/08/11 03:57 PM
3

To add to what Tofu said. There is a pretty big jump from regurgitating what has worked before and charging new territory. Most of ground breaking stuff aren't things i can TELL you. It's about learning to be comfortable enough with yourself to try challenge a girl to hand stand contest or play the penis game in a Ritz Carlton hotel bar. There really hasn't been any new advice or breakthroughs in this community for 5 years. If you really pay attention. EVERYTHING is rehashed, repackaged, and sol…
/r/seduction19/08/11 03:48 PM
0

I think the problem lies is outsiders and newbies assuming we have a set dogma or bring in their prejudices from other places.
/r/seduction19/08/11 03:39 PM
3

I would recommend peacocking all day every day. just to show non believers its functionality. Just like "Science bitches, it works!" "Peacocking bitches, it works!" Now should you wear a pink top hat every time you go out? No, then it becomes a crutch. But don't ever think "I would never ever wear a feather boa to a club" because that shit is fun and hilarious and will get you laid.
/r/seduction19/08/11 03:37 PM
12

No there is some legit shit in there. There are are several self proclaim guru's and dating coaches out there who are essentially snake oil sales men. This is an industry ripe to be taken advantage of, and sadly enough, people do it. To turn a phrase "one bad apple..." well we have hundreds of them and people have a very hard time separating the two because of the very subjective nature of our craft.
/r/seduction19/08/11 06:15 AM
17

If you could say 25% of the people that are subscribed to this sub are girls, thats around 7,000 people. Then factor in more that aren't subscribed but check it every now and then, we'll call it 10,000. there are roughly 150 million women in the US alone....yeah i'm not too worried.
/r/seduction18/08/11 09:12 PM
1

You didn't climb Mount Everest. i am disappoint.
/r/seduction18/08/11 03:10 PM
10

unless he was tyler, he was quoting tyler. Tyler said that shit in alt.fastseduciton when some kid went on a giant diatribe of an opener and some theory, then uPPercut asked him how many times he tested it, and the guy replied with "oh i haven't actually tested it yet, i haven't been sarging yet" to which tyler kicked the guy and called him a keyboard jockey. it was funny.
/r/seduction17/08/11 10:55 PM
1

you'd have to go back 16 pages of comments just to find that information.... dedication to being an asshat. Kudo's my friend.
/r/seduction16/08/11 10:46 PM
6

"You'd never guess the amount of nasty shit i get these sluts to do, just by asking"
/r/seduction16/08/11 02:31 PM
2

This is why i love girls who don't play game. Fuck everything about this.
/r/seduction16/08/11 02:23 PM
5

I think this is one scenario where you let your actions speak for themselves. The player vibe is okay to give off mildly. Lets a woman know you have other interests and she isn't getting your attention because she is attractive. But if they ask or want to take the relationship in a certain direction, yes, be honest and up front.
/r/seduction16/08/11 02:20 PM
2

Remember, don't ever frame a HB of yourself. There is no such thing as a league. The HB system is for what you think she values herself at. Has nothing to do with you.
/r/seduction16/08/11 01:26 PM
2

You and I both know what happened. Lessons on not giving a fuck ;)
/r/seduction15/08/11 11:15 PM
1

You should be non reactive. Follow her cues but never let up on who you are. Don't assume anything and just do you.
/r/seduction15/08/11 09:18 PM
2

Substitute home for some place cool and fun and private. just need to do some scouting and you can be banging in a secluded little park or anything like that.
/r/seduction15/08/11 09:04 PM
2

As long as you go out again, you haven't failed. You only fail when you give up.
/r/seduction13/08/11 11:32 PM
1

You already know the answer to that question.
/r/seduction12/08/11 09:06 PM
1

Oh i know. I just wanted to hear from the girl directly her reasons behind it. Just seeing if she herself knew.
/r/seduction12/08/11 05:29 PM
2

Here is a clue, your inner game isn't solid. Stop laying to yourself and jacking your brain off with seduction material. Just go out there and do. Stop thinking about it.
/r/seduction12/08/11 05:15 PM
1

This is what's wrong with dating. Too much mental masturbation. I always assume shes planning to fuck me. Makes life much easier.
/r/seduction12/08/11 05:13 PM
1

Then why plan ahead at all? With respect to this. Why make the announcement?
/r/seduction12/08/11 05:03 PM
1

So saying "nothing is going to happen" then having something happen won't cause a judgemental person to suddenly not judge you? I understand "not hooking up on the first date" what i don't understand is saying "nothing with happen" when you full damn well know something is going to happen, or at least, aren't planning on anything happening.
/r/seduction12/08/11 04:37 PM
1

Wondering if something...nay caring if something may or maynot be alpha, is by defintion, not alpha. Just invite the girl, have a good time, kino her and then see whats up. You are too outcome dependent.
/r/seduction12/08/11 02:42 PM
2

Why the fuck would you ever say "You can sleep in my bed, provided nothing happened" Please answer this honestly, brutally honest. You knew you were attracted to him, you have a sex drive. Why would you put some arbitrary limit on your interaction with him? You don't have any allure. Stop trying to use sex as a weapon or leverage. If you like him, persue him, don't think for a second that just because you haven't let him stick his dick your vagina that you have some power over him. You might, bu…
/r/seduction12/08/11 02:29 PM
2

Less pronouns more fake names. I can't keep track of who you are talking about.
/r/seduction12/08/11 02:22 PM
5

Gym
/r/seduction12/08/11 02:16 PM
6

boner jams '11
/r/seduction12/08/11 01:51 PM
1

Probably. Im jadded with all the new guys posting their stuff in here about gushing over girls they just met.
/r/seduction11/08/11 08:23 PM
2

I meant the fact that you said that at all.
/r/seduction11/08/11 08:00 PM
1

sex while sarging, its can't lose.
/r/seduction11/08/11 01:03 PM
3

step4 sex again
/r/seduction10/08/11 08:57 PM
2

kino = physical touching. RTFSB
/r/seduction10/08/11 08:57 PM
8

So the very first thing you do when sits down is tell her that her physical attractiveness has stunned you? The rest was great, but man that opening...ouch.
/r/seduction10/08/11 08:56 PM
0

Most sedditors are knew and don't understand how to articulate their thoughts or don't actually have anything to say. At that same time, its really hard because much of advice is universal. There is a whole breadth of knowledge out there. Sure maybe you don't know where to start. And someone might be trying to provide that for you. I think there is also the need for self analysis. Okay you admit you are failing, why do you think are failing? Have you trying mixing things up and trying a new appr…
/r/seduction10/08/11 08:46 PM
3

well no, but you can make sure everyone around you is paying attention. As soon as i told her sit down, she might have some internal bleeding, she started laughing, really really hard.
/r/seduction10/08/11 04:43 PM
2

I did the over exaggerated fall from heaven (that was one the girl knew what was up) I've done the i'm lost routine, that one was actually pretty funny. It's been awhile, most of the golden barney lines are a few years old and i'd just see em, then go try them the next week for laughs. A few hooked, but real life isn't scripted and most of the girls had a "WTF" look on their face.
/r/seduction10/08/11 04:27 PM
1

You should have held up your hands about three feet apart looked at them and said "nahh...but thanks man" and gone back to talking to the girl. And there is a chance this wasn't an AMOG, he might have just been fucking around.
/r/seduction10/08/11 03:34 PM
1

Sinn is a bawler.
/r/seduction10/08/11 03:03 PM
0

I wanna see pictures of hot japanese women. I'm on the east coast but i'm good for it. i swear you know me.. you do... :'( EDIT - real response. i heard about the infamous salaryman's legendary cock blocking attempts. can you regale us with some tales of woe and wonder?
/r/seduction10/08/11 02:32 PM
2

I've tried most of them. I'd say roughly 1 out of 5 girls knew the source immediately. HIMYM is a very watched show amongst the ladies.
/r/seduction10/08/11 02:16 PM
1

Didn't know about that one, new found respect. Maybe they are evolving to a changing market.
/r/seduction10/08/11 01:37 PM
2

I upvoted him. This kind of stuff needs to be seen so people can see the replies. Kind of a "what not to do"
/r/seduction10/08/11 01:33 PM
0

like penis. It's quite in this season.
/r/seduction10/08/11 01:31 PM
1

Yeah i just dont like the current ideology in the for-profit community of guys just trying to find the next greatest thing to preach about. Taking entitlement and making it a good thing is utterly fucking ridiculous and i can't believe anyone would try to purport this as a viable tactic. The word has a meaning. Applying it to another scenario and calling it a breakthrough or a new thought is preposterous and disingenuous.
/r/seduction10/08/11 01:56 AM
1

Here we go. Lets say you and your best friend Brad go out to see a movie. He doesn't have any money, so you pay for his shit, 20 bucks worth, Brad says he will pay you back. He now owes you 20 bucks. The next 20 dollars Brad has goes to you, because it is essentially your money. So the next day you see brad on the street. He holds up 20 dollars, you smile because you are getting your money back, and he hands it to some random dude who is doing a hand stand. Fuck brad, that was my 20 bucks he owe…
/r/seduction09/08/11 10:44 PM
1

Oh I have an analogy but I'm driving home. I'll post it later.
/r/seduction09/08/11 10:12 PM
1

Then I'm sorry. I've tried the best i can. They are different concepts. One is about feeling you deserve something for nothing. One is just assuming it has always existed.
/r/seduction09/08/11 10:07 PM
1

yeah and brad is using the word incorrectly. Being entitled is feeling you are owed something with out having to do anything. Entitlement is walking into a club and feel that the hot blond over there should fuck you because she owes it to you. Assuming attracting is walking into a club, assuming she attracted to you, and carrying on as if she is. Its not about deserving or being owed attraction, i don't think she owes me attraction, i just assume it's there. I don't think I am owed a birthday pr…
/r/seduction09/08/11 10:02 PM
1

So is being innocent until proven guilty being entitled? Assuming she is attracted to me doesn't mean i am entitled to her attention. They are not the same thing. Entitlement means you think she owes you something. You expect her to talk to you because you know that's how this shit works. Its like pulling in to a gas station and grabbing gas first, then going inside and paying for it. You aren't entitled to gas, you just know you can grab the gas first. You aren't entitled to her attention, you …
/r/seduction09/08/11 09:38 PM
1

Well thats a bit of an exaggeration. I hate how they slandered much of the community on their early rise to the top. Papa is amazing, dude is charming, intelligent, and a great dancer. Tyler use to be a robot. I know as a company they have matured and grown, and they have a pretty decent outlook on the state of the community. But they are too profit and fame driven now. You ever seen RSD give away its product? They are driving up the difficulty of their end product to increase need. Essentially …
/r/seduction09/08/11 09:25 PM
1

Entitled is a negative. its being owed something with out having to do anything to earn it. You don't think you are owed a good conversation, you think you've earned one. That's not being entitled. You can be cocky with out caring about the outcomes of your behavior, and I think that is the most important thing. Being cocky is all about ignoring what other people think about you. Entitled requires you to care about the outcome. We want a behavior that is outcome independent. I'm cocky because i …
/r/seduction09/08/11 09:00 PM
0

because the definition of entitled is thinking you are owed something I don't think i am owed a conversation, i'm just pretty sure i am going to get one. Those are two completely different thought processes. I'm not arguing about the proper mindset, im arguing about the words you choose to base your argument. Pick a better word. Entitlement is not something we want new people to start developing. i don't care if you think it means something it doesn't.
/r/seduction09/08/11 08:42 PM
1

yeah dance classes fucking rock.
/r/seduction09/08/11 08:37 PM
0

This isn't what entitled means. It means that you feel you are owed something. Like when you guy a girl a drink, and you expect her to talk to you for it. THAT's being entitled. Having confidence and being sure that a girl will talk to you isn't being entitled.
/r/seduction09/08/11 08:25 PM
2

So. Assuming trolling is given them credit. I treat all comments the same, for face value.
/r/seduction09/08/11 07:56 PM
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Then they are using the word incorrectly. I hate RSD. Fuck Tyler.
/r/seduction09/08/11 07:42 PM
1

Entitlement has a meaning. it means to be entitled to, to felt that you are owed something. Thinking or using a different meaning means you aren't using the word correctly.
/r/seduction09/08/11 07:41 PM
7

LIES! I pulled once wearing a clown nose....but that might not be what you meant.
/r/seduction09/08/11 07:31 PM
3

Entitlement means you feel entitled to, or owed, something. It really shouldn't have anything to do with game. All the things you mentioned are just examples of textbook narcissism and bad game. You can have "game" with out exhibiting any of those qualities. In the broadest term, game merely refers to ones social abilities with women. The most narrow, the ability to "game" or manipulate social structures with the goal of attracting a woman. When i flirt with a girl (aka using game) i don't feel …
/r/seduction09/08/11 07:06 PM
2

yep yep, that place is awesome.
/r/seduction09/08/11 07:00 PM
0

Then you know some pretty boring girls. The three girls in my social circle all throw the best outings for the rest of us. Find more exciting people in your life, it will help you get a more balanced view of social dynamics.
/r/seduction09/08/11 05:31 PM
0

I don't assume trolls.
/r/seduction09/08/11 05:20 PM
2

Oh yeah. Better to take the shot and laugh about if you get rejected than not take the shot and wonder if you could have gotten a BJ at some party.
/r/seduction09/08/11 05:20 PM
1

First half of what you said makes sense, you know for you. But that second, doesn't make any sense.
/r/seduction09/08/11 05:02 PM
3

That's exactly why i said what i said. Women in their 30's rarely play games like that. So will the IoI's OP was describing, its not too far off to test the waters like that. There is nothing wrong with blowjob in the bathroom first, followed by great conversation and fun.
/r/seduction09/08/11 03:51 PM
3

Then you are an asshole and don't deserve to spend time with women. Grow the fuck up.
/r/seduction09/08/11 03:34 PM
1

Nah, swing for the fences.
/r/seduction09/08/11 03:09 PM
4

Because women and men behave differently on a fundamental basis when it comes to attraction. There are so many factors involved I can't begin to explain it all. Essentially most attractive girls either get hit on all the fucking time, or never get talked to because guys are too intimidated. You are fighting an uphill battle when dealing with women who are use to that kind of social stigma. Men on the other hand, don't have to deal with this. We are more open and fluid with our attraction button.…
/r/seduction09/08/11 02:51 PM
30

Get out of the bar and go to a grocery store, yoga class, book store. Searching for women, you miss sight of your life. Living your life, you will find women in abundance.
/r/seduction09/08/11 02:43 PM
5

Externally, nothing, well maybe a fuzzy hat. internally, its about how you feel about your place in any social dynamic. Guys with natural game don't think about this aspect, and by not giving it credence, the defacto state is at the top of the encounter. Guys who learn game like a PUA are conscious about this interaction and make the mental check to remain on top of their social P's&Q's, exuding a confident fun vibe when they may not be actually feeling it. Idealy it looks the same on the outsid…
/r/seduction09/08/11 02:41 PM
2

Thank you sir. You are doing a service for this community. To OP. Fucking pull the trigger any way you can think of and let us know how it went. That's how this sub works.
/r/seduction09/08/11 02:36 PM
3

Depends on the IoI's, you should have said you would join her in the bathroom....
/r/seduction09/08/11 02:00 PM
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This bothered the fuck out of me and i don't know why. Women aren't inherently boring or slow or drama filled. I like the advocation of living an exciting and interesting life, but the author doesn't have to insult women. This is fucked, in half.
/r/seduction09/08/11 01:30 PM
1

LAP DANCES ALL AROUND!
/r/seduction09/08/11 01:00 PM
2

Yep, which is why we don't like it
/r/seduction09/08/11 03:05 AM
1

Ah i miss read the proximity. You mean she is choosing to stay in physical contact. Yes that is right, sorry. I thought you were saying something else.
/r/seduction09/08/11 01:31 AM
3

I didn't say he had game, i said don't let him play games. he is playing games. Saying he doesnt want her, then texting her drunk. That's playing games.
/r/seduction09/08/11 12:50 AM
1

If you push for sex, and she says no, so you try some LMR breaker and instead of giving you consent, she just stops fighting you and lets you sleep with her, thats rape.
/r/seduction09/08/11 12:47 AM
1

She says No, then stops resisting and you sleep with her - sex without consent. She says no, then using freeze out tactics she initiates sex - with consent.
/r/seduction08/08/11 06:26 PM
47

Find another dude. Don't let him play games with you.
/r/seduction08/08/11 02:36 PM
1

A) You're wrong and could go to jail with that advice B) You took what special_lady said way out of context.
/r/seduction08/08/11 02:28 PM
11

Candy necklace, that shit is so much fun.
/r/seduction08/08/11 02:25 PM
1

I wanna know what you said that got you blown out? I went out on friday and starting challenging everyone to arm wrestling matching after some AMOG started talking about how much he bicep curls. Bitches love arm wrestling.
/r/seduction08/08/11 01:34 PM
2

GOD NO You don't NEED each other, you WANT each other. Those are two different things. And when you look at a long solid couple hopelessly in love remember this took years to occur, you can't force this in a few months. Slow the fuck down and appreciate your love life as it is now.
/r/seduction05/08/11 02:58 PM
1

It's not a game. It's learning to be comfortable with yourself. We treat it like a game in the beginning to get use to the rules and actions therein. However advanced/inner "game" isn't game or a game at all. It's being an interesting attractive person. Flirting is an emergent behavior to arise out of social dynamics. Much like flocking and grooming. Also this is all about the initial seduction and attraction. Understand that giving a girl you don't know undo attention and affection is weird. Wo…
/r/seduction05/08/11 02:55 PM
1

Depends on your state. If the age of consent is 17 or below, go for it.
/r/seduction04/08/11 09:03 PM
1

happens to the best of us.
/r/seduction04/08/11 08:27 PM
1

Yeah, good for you. Also don't let it seep into your advice giving. I could taste your malice in that first post, and while it may seem therapeutic for you, it might discourage someone else who is less along in his path than you are. Remember we are community promoting good relationships, relationships with ourselves and women at large. Try to find a girl outside your wheelhouse, go rock climbing or something you wouldn't normally do and see what you can kick up. it will be good for you.
/r/seduction04/08/11 06:23 PM
1

That's interesting. You might have just failed two shit tests. Not really sure. Or maybe you are just dealing with two bitches, or maybe they went overboard because they were surprised at their attraction. I'd need more detail to refine your end of things, but this just sounds like random shit that happens.
/r/seduction04/08/11 05:42 PM
1

maybe, who the fuck laughs and mocks you when you are talking to a girl? I'm gonna need a metric ton more details to assess this.
/r/seduction04/08/11 05:15 PM
1

You should do both. Don't let your perception of your attractiveness stop you. That's the point she was trying to make. As long as you have a good dental plan, you can get laid. You can probably get laid even if you had jacked up teeth too.
/r/seduction04/08/11 05:07 PM
1

We are arguing semantics, You are saying they don't matter and I'm saying they do.
/r/seduction04/08/11 05:06 PM
1

That's fine, but that's not the best scenario. We want the best for our fellow man. And pushing someone to find inner happiness first will always be on the top priority for me.
/r/seduction04/08/11 04:30 PM
1

You were talking about generic terms physical attractiveness and physical ugliness, the reasons do matter in this scenario. Having bad teeth doesn't make you generally unattractive or ugly. Likewise, having great teeth doesn't make you generally attractive. At the core of this subreddit, we are giving advice. Posting "so be attractive, right" in a sarcastic tone is bad advice when you are mixing up semantics isn't good advice and helps no one. Toastie wasn't saying you have to be hot to hit on h…
/r/seduction04/08/11 04:29 PM
2

To the man that says there is no such thing as bad pussy has never had enough pussy. To the man that replies with that, has never had a long enough dry spell. Happiness can come from all shapes and sizes, I'm not ruling out someone else making you happy, I'm addressing the issue being discussed, which is the over-needy drive to find someone, anyone, to fill that role for you. You are the one making it all-or-nothing, not us. The only thing I ever talked to was not being obsessed with finding a g…
/r/seduction04/08/11 03:41 PM
2

Yeah she was wonderful, couldn't get over the smoking and the breath. And no desire to quit. Which i guess killed the attraction, but everything else was great. EDIT - you are assigning two different forms of attractive to this scenario. She was saying you don't have to be super physically attractive to get her attention, just don't have bad teeth.
/r/seduction04/08/11 03:38 PM
9

That's not what she said...at all. She said bad teeth. Bad teeth is awful, so is bad breath. I knew really high value girl (gorgeous, great job, awesome personality) that smoked and had horrendous breath. Never made it past dancing for me.
/r/seduction04/08/11 02:19 PM
9

This attitude means you are missing more than just intimacy. A significant other shouldn't make you happy, they should enhance your current happiness. You have to find fulfillment in your life single before you are emotional stable enough to extend that fulfillment to another. Thinking you need intimacy to make you happy will just sour any relationship you get in.
/r/seduction04/08/11 02:01 PM
6

I didn't get laid for 19 years of my life and everything was just fine. And we aren't talking about getting laid. We are talking about pining for a girlfriend and that attitude corrupting all your interactions with the ladies. EDIT - Also, having this attitude will ensure you don't enjoy life. If you just resign yourself to finding happiness on your own, then when you do get the opportunity to meets someone, you will exude that happiness and greatly enhance attraction rather than give off the "i…
/r/seduction04/08/11 12:57 PM
13

this is the attitude you should have. Enjoying your life, spicing it up with women here and there and not worrying about finding "the one" or needing a girl to make you feel validated.
/r/seduction03/08/11 10:40 PM
1

I love the hola holla disconnect. Either you are spanish, or missspell holla, ether way you win.
/r/seduction03/08/11 01:24 PM
-2

I saw that in "I hope they serve beer in hell", the Tucker max movie.
/r/seduction02/08/11 09:04 PM
7

No, making ultimatums like that is for idiots and assholes. If you only want this girl for sex and she isn't giving it to you, stop seeing her. If she is interesting enough to hang out with her without sex, then what's the fucking problem. The ultimatum is immature and pathetic.
/r/seduction01/08/11 08:18 PM
1

yeah he screwed this us....big time.
/r/seduction29/07/11 01:05 PM
1

Swim a few laps, challenge her to a race, ask her if she can rescue you. Dunk her. Get in the hottub if your gym/pool has one.
/r/seduction28/07/11 02:14 PM
1

This is my advice. Bitches need to learn shit, damn motherfucker.
/r/seduction28/07/11 02:11 PM
3

I totally forgot about him. Damn i must watch this movie again. its so fucking good.
/r/seduction28/07/11 02:10 PM
1

Hitch is really really close. Like other than typical movie scenarios, he is spot on. Moody is pretty good, but in a tragic way. he isn't a happy PUA, he doesn't enjoy his life, he is good because of his self loathing. You dont' want to be that kind of PUA.
/r/seduction28/07/11 02:08 PM
1

Not spending too much energy on one girl != sleeping around. It means using your time and energy wisely to find a good match. Stop assuming things. Just because the article say "get over things" doesn't mean it isn't advocating spending an inordinate amount of time trying to "convince" one girl to date you. It's just saying to give up WAY WAY longer than most of us would ever tell you to bail. One-itis is putting too much attention/effort/attraction into a single girl that isn't returning the at…
/r/seduction26/07/11 07:39 PM
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