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Question For Menyoshimango97/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:44 AM
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Um ok? I didn’t even know sex was a reason to get a dog. . . Didn’t need that visual.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:00 PM
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Ok. . .
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 05:52 PM
1

There’s a grain of truth in every joke. I thought this was supposed to be humorous take on your actual opinion. If most are not and he doesn’t find one who is wouldn’t that mean he’s productive for reasons other than getting a wife and kids? And that women aren’t the main motivator?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 03:55 PM
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Weren’t you saying on here before that men are only productive to get women? Now you say this lol. Which one is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 03:14 PM
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Idk man comparing my older cousins to my experience and what I see from my younger sister, younger cousins and there friends the bar seemed to be a lot lower before. Which I can see why. When my older cousins were in their teens and 20s before socia media was a big thing. You’d only really “compete” with people in your town or school. Now though you “compete” with basically everyone in your city, all the surrounding schools etc. Guys who wouldn’t be Chads by any standard could still get laid wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 06:10 PM
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No I don’t remember any of those polls. I remember conservatives saying he was going to win and liberals defaming him. The study lines up with others I’ve seen some of which have been posted here and general population trends that researchers have observed. How old are you? I have a teens in my family and I’m in college. It’s not exactly as you described. Girls are more picky now than they were when they were my older cousins were in their teens and 20s. Most of the girls are serial monogamist a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 05:50 PM
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Millennial and Gen Z women are having less sex than boomers and the sex they are having is more disproportionately distributed. The latter portion has been discussed to death on here. I can provide some links on the sex decline. They’re not having children by those type of men anymore. The birth rate has also dropped for westerners. In America it’s dropped for almost all races. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2016/08/16/millennials-are-having-less-sex-than-other-gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 05:29 PM
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Ok my mistake. Single. You’re right, they’re not marrying them or having children with them. Even with fucking their standards have gotten higher and it’s a part of why more and more men are becoming sexless. Some men who would have made the cut if it was 1990 are struggling now. Swathes of men are “disqualified” for casual sexual based on women’s new standards and expectations. If you’re not close to the ideal personality and finance-wise maybe you’ll still get sex if you’re very attractive and…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 05:15 PM
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Of course take things out of context lol. Anyway my point is. Any man is capable of treating women like that. How much sex he has won’t give you an accurate view of how he’ll treat you. You have to look at the other things I mentioned earlier. Just looking at how many women he’s bedded won’t tell you much. It could just be that he’s lacking opportunity but still has that intent. Which is the case more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 04:28 PM
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That’s not true either though. There are men who get sex who view it as sweet and loving. His sexual prowess isn’t always the best indicator on how he views sex. You have to look at how he views women, how he talks about women he’s slept with or wants to sleep with, what his kinks are and his reasons for liking them etc. That will tell you what kind of guy he is and you’ll see that # of partners doesn’t affect views on sex as much as you guys think.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 03:42 PM
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They all got treated like they were royalty but the guys who were good-looking all around got the most play. The less attractive but also super talented teammates benefited a bit by association though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 03:39 PM
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Wdym?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 12:41 PM
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Ok. . .
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 07:02 AM
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No you don’t. As I said to him agree to disagree. A man not getting sex doesn’t mean he’ll view it as sweet and loving. Sexually unsuccessful men, more often than not are bitter about it and will take it out on women the first chance they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 07:01 AM
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I don’t think I am. There’s guys who struggle to get sex and are bitter about it. So if and when they manage to get it they’ll treat and talk about the women they slept with like garbage. The only thing that separates them from douchey f-bois is opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 06:59 AM
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They sometimes are when they finally get a girl to sleep with them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 05:02 AM
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Agree to disagree then because this lines up with what I’ve seen and it’s what led me to this conclusion. You have to look at how he talks about sex and/or the women he’s slept with, not the number.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 04:32 AM
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That’s how it should work in practice but irl that’s not how it works. A mans ability to get sex doesn’t affect his view of it beyond his willingness or lack thereof to pass up opportunities. If he views women as dirty cum receptacles he’ll view them that way whether or not he can get sex easily. If he views sex as sweet and loving he’ll view it that way regardless of whether or not he can get a lot of sex. And actually sometimes guys who can’t get it, become really bitter about it and take it o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 04:17 AM
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Except even when talking in strictly human terms. Promiscuous women are viewed similarly. They’re viewed to be “lesser” in certain aspects solely based on their promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 03:26 AM
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Men like that know they’re dirty and that having sex with them is dirty. They’ll be disgusted at finding out you had sex with other men but still want you to have sex with them, and make them an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 03:09 AM
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You are too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 03:04 AM
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It’s called being dirty. I also could’ve went my whole life without knowing this man🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 03:03 AM
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It is working. It’s why certain types of guys know they have an ever shrinking niche to pick from.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 02:56 AM
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I agree it is degrading. Main reason why I will never go down on a man. If even you view your own bodily fluids and appendages as disgusting Idk why you want women near them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 02:55 AM
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I’m not shaming or judging. You guys are just confirming my views about some men. I always viewed sucking dick as degrading and I had dudes try to argue with me over it but a lot of men really do feel this way as you guys are proving. So I don’t feel bad about some men being sexless. If even men view getting f*cked by a man as disgusting and degrading why is it surprising that women share that sentiment and have high thresholds for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 02:54 AM
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You can control what words you use to express your intention(s). Plenty of people have their message perceived the way they intended it to be because they choose their words wisely. That’s not what the lock and key metaphor means. A lock that only opens for one key is valuable. A key that can open any lock is valuable. A lock that opens for any key is useless. So basically it means if you’re a promiscuous woman you have less value than a chaste woman and if you’re a promiscuous man you have more…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 02:37 AM
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🖖
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 02:32 AM
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🦷
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 02:31 AM
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The real world. Women want men who are top class in every aspect or as close to it as possible. Women who can’t find this are growing increasingly content being alone. As I said men like that may still get play from some disturbed women with no options who grew up in abusive environments but the tap isn’t as bountiful as it once was. This will probably dry up soon too though because women are putting increasing focus on mental health issues, self-care, avoiding toxicity etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 02:31 AM
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🤘
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 02:27 AM
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Yes. It didn’t come off as degrading to me. It was sensual, but I’m also a woman. Attitudes like this is why I don’t really feel bad for most men sexually though. You’re shooting yourselves in the foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 02:26 AM
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The words are always relevant. They’re the vehicle used to convey your message and if you’re not careful you run the risk of you message being perceived way differently than your intention. Not a literal lock but it’s saying a woman is an object that loses value after sex. The more men she has sex with the more value the female object loses. The “lock and key” are used to introduce this idea in simple terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 02:23 AM
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They do. The language you use to convey an idea is just as important as the idea itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 02:13 AM
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Yes they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 02:11 AM
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Yes. It’s still an objectifying metaphor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 02:10 AM
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Same thing. Sex will always be degrading for women in men’s eyes with this logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 02:04 AM
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It’s literally likening people to objects . . .
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 02:03 AM
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Not really. They can exist separately.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 01:41 AM
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That’s lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 01:40 AM
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Even beyond that virgins will be nervous, maybe even shaky and you can just tell that they generally don’t really know what they’re doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 01:19 AM
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Oh ok
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 01:17 AM
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How did you find the user demographics?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 12:43 AM
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If you look at their communities here on reddit the have about the same number of members. They’re both into the thousands and not too far off from each other numerically. Truefemcels has over 20k members incelswithouthate has about 15k.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 12:11 AM
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I think I would but I’m a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 11:55 PM
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Pretty much!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 11:54 PM
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They are proportional. They’re just fundamentally incompatible based on how the groups define themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 11:53 PM
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Nah that’s scary in general. That means you can easily be manipulated and taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 11:30 PM
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Someone liking your looks doesn’t mean they love you either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 11:18 PM
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He’s not fat in the pic but he’s definitely not thin either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 11:17 PM
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Because they’re weirdo wallflowers and not hot, spontaneous and immediately entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 11:15 PM
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This is so sad and scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 11:14 PM
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Not if you’re having sex with them but sometimes they’ll view you having sex with other men that way. Mostly they’re apathetic to it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 11:12 PM
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For sex not dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 11:09 PM
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They’re often conflated. It seems to be a catch-all for post-wall women, unattractive women and women with too high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 11:07 PM
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How isn’t it? Femcels are on the rise too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 11:06 PM
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I’m referring to women who are fairly attractive. I wouldn’t say they have crippling social anxiety either but maybe we have different views on what that looks like. They’re capable of being social and won’t have panic/anxiety attacks or anything but they prefer not to go out because their “social battery” gets drained easily so they find it easier and faster to just get guys online.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 10:49 PM
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Or they’re homebodies who prefer to order dick from the comfort of their own rather than going out on the prowl and having to put the work in and risking rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 10:32 PM
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They won’t get on it if that’s not what they want. If they want an actual relationship they’re not going to get on tinder, casual sex being easy to get on there doesn’t mean anything to women who don’t want casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 10:31 PM
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Ok well the hot successful business man type is a different category in and off itself. Woman definitely will pursue those types sometimes aggressively but it’s because bagging that type is high reward if you’re successful. They’re high risk, high chance of failure but also high reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 10:06 PM
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It’s the same in a lot of more developed countries now. Women are too apprehensive to stay home beyond their maternity leave because they don’t know if they’ll be able to link down another job and I don’t blame them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 09:42 PM
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There’s exceptions to everything. Personally I haven’t see that type of bare minimum behavior work unless they girl was a borderline nymph or a groupie. For other types of women barring the exceptions they won’t pursue him that hard because they’ll created an image of him in their head and assume he’s a player, f-boi etc. Doing the stuff you listed will garner him lustful glances, but women won’t approach if they feel the situation is high risk no reward. If he approaches her and shows interest,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 09:40 PM
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They usually are because some are also homebodies so they’re not really going out to sleep with guys or inviting any over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 09:35 PM
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Idk man most guys say they can tell and it’s such a pointless lie too. Even if you don’t find out after sex if you do enough digging you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 06:54 PM
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Ok that I can agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 06:19 PM
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Yeah and the point I’m making is both are expensive for one person to afford on their own. If you’re not lucky enough to live somewhere where there are free programs and your family can’t help then the dad or govt should help for the sake of the kid(s).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 06:13 PM
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Yeah but the scenario you were talking about is pretty rare and I doubt that’s what the other commenter was doing. Lying about being a virgin is a really dumb lie you’ll get caught out as soon as you sleep with the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 06:11 PM
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Except she may not have been actively hiding it. Some people just fill in the blanks with what they want to believe. You can be religious and sexually inexperienced without being a virgin. In the modern day west if you’re a demure woman, who doesn’t dress provocatively, isn’t lewd, etc most people will assume you’re a virgin or very sexually inexperienced without you lying or actively trying to hide anything. If you continue to entertain the misunderstanding after it’s been brought to your atten…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 06:08 PM
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How do you afford a nanny if you’re from a middle to working class background and are now doing everything on your own post divorce. Most single parents can barely afford daycare and are uber grateful for crappy free childcare services.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 06:03 PM
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It’s implied. That’s why men can have their payments readjusted if the woman is not using child support for the kids and why alimony and child support aren’t completely lumped together. If cs wasn’t for kids then payment reduction based on the mothers spending habits wouldn’t even be a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 05:59 PM
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Why not do both? Honestly I think it would be best for a tracker joint account to be created where both parents put in money for the child. It can be adjusted for income. Track all the kids expenses and ensure the balance never goes below what the child needs to maintain their lifestyle every month. So find a woman like that. My dad basically did that until my mom got sick of him and divorced him. Those type of women can be overbearing and dominating but that’s the trade off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 05:57 PM
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Well that’s what “stay at home” implies. Unless the woman had a job that allowed her to work Gil time at home she’ll be off the market for x amount of years. No if you quit your job they’d reduce your payments based on income. You can’t pay if you have no money. I knew plenty of guys that did that to get out of payments. One went down to a part time job but did some freelance work that he took cash only for so it looked like he was making less money than he really was. He was able to get his pay…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 05:46 PM
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If it’s not spent on the kids though you can get the payments reduced. It’s why spousal support/alimony and child support are 2 different things handled separately from each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 05:21 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 05:12 PM
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That I agree with. They should allow the dad to track how the money is being spent. Some men would be very happy about this and others would be miserable. So essentially this is about revenge and not the kids? How about neither side be punished. What happens in cases where abortion isn’t a feasible option where you live or you found out you were pregnant after the cut-off? What if the couple agreed to have it then the dad changed his mind after the baby was born? By punished I assume you mean ja…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 05:12 PM
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They do that already but it’s hard to raise a kid on one income so the dad should help. I agree with allowing men legal abortions but in those cases the govt should help the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 05:04 PM
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Idk why your comments isn’t popping up but plenty of women get degrees before having a kid. That’s not the issue. The issue is market competition particularly for non-stem degrees. Why would they hire a woman who’s been out of the market for years and has “competing interests” vs people who have constantly been working and have beefed up resumes?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 05:03 PM
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If they’re not using it for the kids you can take them to court to have payments reduced.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 05:01 PM
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I agree with this and letting men have a sort of “legal” abortion. Where if you really don’t want the kid you sign away all rights and are forbidden from ever seeing or speaking to them. In these cases the govt could help out the woman and in the rest the father helps but expenses are tracked to make sure the money is being used on the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:59 PM
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So if a man spends ample time with a woman, sleeps with her and take her on dates then she assumes they’re exclusive is that lying by omission?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:50 PM
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It depends on whether or not you like casual sex. If not this probably feels as stifling to those types as conservative sexual cultures feel/felt to people who really like casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:49 PM
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Im imagining it’s the same as girls who assume they’ll be an item with a guy. She probably doesn’t dress too “scandalously” and presents as somewhat sexually conservative so the guys just assumed she was a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:48 PM
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I find this hard to believe growing up around guys like this. The athletes were treated like gods but unless they were hooking up with “trashy” girls they had to do more than just show their junk. I will say though that overall girls wouldn’t be as freaked out and disgusted, but when they went for certain types they’d still have to flirt and tease their way into her pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:45 PM
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Yeah and if there were no kid she could significantly downsize her costs. You could live in a cheap studio and every single one of your expenses would be cut in half or more. On my salary now I can support myself just fine. If I had a kid though? We’d be going hungry and at risk of homelessness if the kids father didn’t take on some financial responsibilities to the child. I don’t assume the woman is a saint. There’s all kinds of single mothers. Some are great and don’t need any help, some are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:41 PM
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I’m a little confused because I thought you were saying that if the mother has custody the father doesn’t pay child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:36 PM
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How low are we talking and what are you looking for? I know a lot of women with n-counts of 0-8. Some of them are Christians devout or “casual”. If it’s just a ltr without the intention of marriage you’re looking for then religious differences don’t matter that much. Unless you’re a staunch satanist or something. Just go for more introverted women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:35 PM
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Men who are sexually unsuccessful want this because they’d be getting more sex than they are now despite all the risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:32 PM
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If the couple were cohabitating at one point then no she really wasn’t. Paying 0-50% of a mortgage or rent and splitting child care costs with an SO is not the same as financing everything yourself. Which is why cs and government subsidies are a thing. Grocery costs are not minimal especially if you have more than one kid and want to feed them a somewhat healthy diet. Especially when you take into consideration that all other bills outside of the kid are on you so what you have left over for you…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:31 PM
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Sometimes it is. If the case makes it to court and the child is a certain age their opinion will matter, depending on the judge, and/or resources available they’ll ask the kid who they want to live with and see if that parent can take care of them then work out child support payments from there. If the parents don’t go through court, which is the case most of the time, they just decide on their own without consulting their kid(s).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:28 PM
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So then what role does the father play? It sounds like he’s literally just a sperm donor.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:24 PM
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Yeah it is if she’s using the money to put a roof over their heads, pay for their groceries, medical expenses etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:23 PM
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I’m sure that’s why many men are sexless now. Women have alternatives to avoid these men and most do. Only mentally vulnerable women who grew up in an abusive or neglectful environment really go for abusive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:22 PM
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2 years may not be enough if you stayed at home for more than 5 years. Especially if you don’t have a stem degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:21 PM
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He didn’t propose any alternative escape route. Just take away the ones they have then what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:20 PM
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Many men are abusive so a lot of people would just be FA just like how things are currently going so I don’t see what this would fix? It doesn’t incentivize women to stop having kids. I was born in a country with little to no social services. There were still single mothers. The only difference is people would be way more aggressive in getting the baby father to help his child(ren). What about the kids that are already here? Will that money be redirected to foster care or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:19 PM
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I mean it’s ppd. People got on me for admitting I answered a guy honestly about what I thought of his skills and size.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 11:49 PM
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Is this a glass half full type thing? Where you’re saying they can use it as an opportunity to display dominance? Or do you mean an actual literal invitation? If it’s the latter I completely disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 07:06 PM
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I’ve only seen it from women a handful of times throughout my entire life. Mainly it’s happened in an argument where the woman went for that jab to shut the guy up. The vast majority of the time I see men making fun of men for being sexual failures. Today I was at drill and several dudes including the sergeants were giving dudes crap about their sexuality. With the students I volunteer with everyday I’m disturbed by the boys posturing and competition about “who gets the most girls”. They use it …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 05:53 AM
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Men who are very attractive can afford to be more picky with who they sleep with because as you said. They have a plethora of options. Contrary to popular belief they don’t just sleep with anything that moves like other men. So knowing this it’s safe to assume she’s attractive to them but not compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:19 PM
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Why would you have to give up your entire existence in any capacity just because you’re dating someone. That level of co-dependency isn’t healthy. If you can bag Jhene Aiko or someone who looks similar then more power to you. I still don’t see how that or what you said about the other lady are entitlement. People like what they like. Almost everyone has preferences for physical things. How stringent they are about sticking to them depends on how successful they are at attracting what they are at…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:12 PM
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You mean my critical thinking skills. If she can attract them then that means physically she meets their standards. So then the issue is compatibility of values, personality etc. I don’t know her so I can’t answer that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:09 PM
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That doesn’t mean her physical standards are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 03:08 PM
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Ok so in essence you don’t like her or her standards because you have something against single moms. Therefore you’ve arbitrarily deemed her preferences as entitlement. Should’ve started with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 03:06 PM
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Why is a preference entitlement?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 03:05 PM
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Go for it. There’s a lot of pretty men out there. https://images.app.goo.gl/kofbcsvzYVgYDaXT7 https://images.app.goo.gl/VCk3EffzVCs59mGk6
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 02:59 PM
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People can be in a relationship and never know the others love language because it was never discussed or implied. So they each show love their way, and if the other partner doesn’t have the same love language things implode and they either talk through it and figure it out or the relationship dies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 02:51 PM
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They both mean the same thing. Option 2 could mean I was pursued by or once dated and asshole and you’re not like that, you’re the safe option. Anyway men(especially here) often take both in the same negative way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 02:49 PM
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It is true most men just don’t have the option and eventually the dry spell gets to them. There’s a reason post nut clarity is a thing and why they fantasize about the type of women they do. Men will shoot their shot with the highest though and then work their way down if they get desperate enough for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 02:47 PM
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Sex isn’t the only way to show love. You have to always keep in mind that everyone has different love languages. What if sex wasn’t hers but acts of service or gifts were and she stayed consistent with that but sex declined? Why chalk it up to loss of love when it could be something else causing the decline?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 02:37 PM
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Says who? Irl when people actually say that to their partner it means they feel comfortable to be vulnerable because they have no fear that their partner will abuse or mistreat them. They completely trust you and feel safe with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 02:34 PM
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Depending on the context it was said it id discuss it further but I wouldn’t be offended. Why would I want my partner to feel threatened by and insecure around me? How does safe=boring and unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 02:25 PM
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A lot of women will do things they don’t like to please their partners. It doesn’t seem like no apparent reason to me. Generic, but still good and most people can’t seem to follow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 02:21 PM
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Yep. Then it’s a db situation, both fall out of love the man figures “it’s cheaper to keeper” but then the woman eventually reaches a breaking point and files for divorce. Also as a side note the advice given by the researchers at the bottom is what a lot of men in db situations did then their marriages revitalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 02:51 AM
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They do both fall out of love. It’s why the dynamic of the relationship becomes what it does. Men just often have more to lose in a divorce so they don’t want to end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 02:43 AM
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Yes for what I said above as well as other more grave reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 02:23 AM
1

Which is what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 02:17 AM
1

No straight women vet more in straight relationships as well. Straight women I know tend to take things slower with men and even with myself I notice I don’t rush into things as much with guys as I do with women. Addiction maybe depending on the type. I disagree with infidelity being easy to vet for though, especially if the person is a first time cheater or successfully hid their cheating past. Difference of perspective then because the reasons women give for divorce seem pretty straightforward…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 01:42 AM
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I don’t think it’s much of a leap. Gay men are very careful about committed relationships while lesbians are more prone to rushing into things. Straight people fall in the middle. If lesbians take heed of failed relationships before them and slow down a bit to vet more like gay men do I suspect the divorce rates will change. I know from my own experiences this is some I have to do. Whenever I come across a girl I really vibe with this is me: https://images.app.goo.gl/zzYBz1uu1Y1FF6q29 So I have …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:47 PM
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Read the rest of what I wrote about how gay and lesbian men enter relationships. Context is key😊. Yes it costs more to get a surrogate than it does to get a sperm donor. I am bisexual and idk that hasn’t been my experience so far. It’s been the opposite for me. I go for guys if I don’t have a girlfriend. That’s why there’s ranges and learning opportunities to practice. You probably date women like that intentionally. I’m always romantic same with the women I’ve dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 06:34 PM
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Women definitely do romance as well. 12% isn’t that much and looking at the reasons why straight couples divorce vs lesbians and the context surrounding the stats leads me to believe the rate will drop in the future. Both gay and lesbian couples have unique destabilizing relationship stressors that straight couples don’t have. However lesbians are more likely to rush into cohabitation and marriage whereas gay men are more likely to select for stable partners. Ik but the woman makes the baby and …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 12:52 PM
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As I told the other guy I don’t care. All I’m saying is if you have a baby out of wedlock make sure you can completely handle it if you don’t have the dad or government to help you otherwise you’re dumb for having a kid without being married.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 02:07 AM
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If that’s how you want to think about it. At the end of the day though wives have more security than baby mamas.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 02:05 AM
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It still works even if the person is physically attractive. If you already put them in the “family/sibling” category it’s hard to think of them as anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 10:58 PM
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It’s definitely possible some people just have a self fulfilling prophecy. They assume it’s impossible and then they only become friends with the opposite sex as “orbiters” then assume everyone operates the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 10:55 PM
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Yes. You’d basically just view them as family.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 10:54 PM
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I wouldn’t say most of them are feminism infected. They are young though because with the exception of one ’ve only ever slept with guys close in age to me. The oldest guy I slept with was into that kind of stuff and some of it was good some of it I wasn’t into like spitting. I still didn’t orgasm from piv though. I don’t really care that much though because Ik what works for men sleeping with men and women and I do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 09:33 PM
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Not really I’ve just accepted that’s the way things are. PIV sex doesn’t do much for me so I only have it if I care about my fwbs feelings. It hasn’t really diminished my respect for men. That’d be like getting mad that a cat can’t breathe underwater. It is what it is. Receiving oral is the way to go for me. I don’t see how that makes sense? If he’s brutal and uncaring he won’t gaf about her pleasure. Do wouldn’t that be back to square one? Jackhammering away when you know piv does little to not…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 09:17 PM
1

I agree 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 09:11 PM
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Women do bring romance. I date women too and they’re typically more put together and ready for commitment than men. I’m not saying that’s a bad thing that guys don’t want to commit but when you’re judging who’s more relationship worthy that doesn’t help men’s case. There’s stats on the difference in orgasm frequency for straight people and on who does more housework. Plus other threads here and the male defense of them have shed a bad on men’s domestic skills. For kids the woman is the one makin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 09:11 PM
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I personally don’t I’m there to get mine and I communicate that to the guys. Exactly why I laid the terms out so clearly. If most women treated men they use for sex the same way most men treat women they use for sex, you’d hear this complaint from men a lot less often. They only complain because they’re expecting all the sexual encounters to be ones where the woman cares if he gets off. Guaranteed orgasm. Expand on the last sentence. It depends on the guys type really.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 08:48 PM
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Men don’t want to be used for sex in the way women are. I can guarantee you that. Would you be ok with someone using you to get off, while you seldom get off because they dgaf about you. Then clowning your looks and being embarrassed to be seen with and associated with you in public? When guys think “used for sex” they think of it as a mutually beneficial nsa arrangement and that’s not the case. When you understand this you also understand that men don’t “value” women for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 08:24 PM
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Things can still be useful for people outside of the target demographic. Depending on what your daughter would want out of a relationship you could tell her all of the above and also show her rp to see what’s she up against straight from the horses mouth,
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 02:50 AM
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It’s really not weird if you introduce it in an age appropriate way. Kids already know anyways but sometimes they get misinformation from their friends or the internet if their parents don’t monitor and talk to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 01:26 AM
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Depends on how you phrase it. Just let her know there’s some things you think she should keep an eye out for when she starts dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 12:04 AM
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Maybe not women you date but showing it to your daughter could be useful for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 12:03 AM
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There’s more to trp than the art of seduction. There’s some stuff in there women should know and look out for like playing dread game etc. You can learn all that and still find a guy who you naturally clicked with and are seduced by.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 12:00 AM
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Those things aren’t mutually exclusive, you can know what to be aware of while being naturally seduced
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 11:57 PM
1

Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 11:07 PM
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If he makes you feel ugly or insignificant. Or you feel insecure around him and like you can’t trust him etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 11:05 PM
1

Well I was asking who you think the group raters would pick as more marriage material anyway. Even still. There’s women that are lower status but still in proximity to high value males. More often than not they don’t end up with those guys. Like how doctors will sleep with nurses but they mainly marry other doctors or similarly high status medical professionals. A lawyer may sleep with the office secretary but he’s going to marry a lawyer or a similarly high status female. You can try to deny it…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 10:49 PM
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No we’re not lol. Your parents have to teach you certain things or you learn from life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 09:33 PM
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In my example they’re the same level looks and compatibility wise. One is just much more successful. Ik, however irl you’ll find a lot of pretty pleasant women. Some successful and high status others not. The ones who are successful and high status tend to end up with Higher value men than women who aren’t. So depending on what you’re looking for you need status and accomplishments too as a woman, in addition to good looks and a good personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 09:32 PM
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It’s because the wage gap that people refer to isn’t actually closed overall. It’s just closing in marriages. From my experience it takes a special kind of man and woman to make a relationship with female breadwinners to work as well. Most people consciously or subconsciously know they’re not the type so this trend will be upsetting to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 07:49 PM
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A group of Ivy League educated high earners is told to choose who they think is a better marriage prospect from 2 women after meeting them. Both tick all those things you mentioned to the same exact degree. They’re both 9/10, same age, both are not promiscuous, both were very pleasant and got equally high personality ratings from the men after each got to talk with both women. Then the men find out one is a social worker that went to a low prestige state school, the other is an Ivy League educat…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 07:46 PM
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In relationships they do. For sex looks are all that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 06:34 PM
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. . . Yes. That’s how you get higher end guys. Looks, femininity, pleasant to be around gets commitment. Status and being an asset gets you commitment from a high status guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 02:16 PM
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Ohh ok
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 06:01 AM
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I think the bulk of men would just push back and try to bring things back to “the good old days” where there were almost guaranteed a wife and presumably steady sex as long as they could hold down a steady job. Or they’d be distraught and give up on dating all together. Maybe 30-35% would actually put in the work to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 06:00 AM
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What’s immature neoteny?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 05:57 AM
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It’s not as bad as I thought. With the reasons outlined in the article it makes sense. Not everyone has the ability to have casual nsa sex so they go the relationship thing. Problem is a lot of these guys apparently aren’t in the position to have steady relationships. The decline in sexlessness for older age cohorts is a good sign though. Fair, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see them over represented among the population of sexless men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 05:51 AM
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Women would need it for relationship market value,
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 05:45 AM
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I think he’s saying he’s more worried about teenage thugs than losers who can’t put any effort into self-improvement. Idk though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 05:40 AM
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What’s the study? Do you have a link to it. Did it specify the reasons why they’re failing or if they’re even failing at all? A good chunk of that 30% could be celibate, asexual or have certain mental or physical conditions that affect things. So the true number of guys that want sex and can’t get it is lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 05:37 AM
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Interesting. I’ve only met one guy like that and he was young. The rest all had a refractory period but I noticed it was longer for the older guys. They weren’t even that old either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 05:00 AM
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It’s both. When you’re younger your body compensates for your laziness a bit. Not that way when you get older. When you compare guys that put effort though the younger guy that works out is better visually.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 04:56 AM
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You’re probably the exception and you’re that way because you work at it. My mom is fitter and younger looking that her age mates. She even looks better than some younger women but that’s because of the work she puts into looking good. When you get older you have to do that if you want to maintain yourself you don’t just wake up tight bodied and resilient like you did when you were young.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 01:06 AM
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Idk man. All ik is it happens it’s a natural part of aging, and if you don’t actively work hard to prevent it it’ll happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 01:00 AM
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That’s what I thought lol but figured I’d ask because it’s the internet after all lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 12:42 AM
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B. Justin Bieber so long as he got a haircut and a face routine C. Neither, post Malone for obvious reasons. Henry Cavill seems to only look good in movies. His ig pics give me dad vibes and not in the “daddy🍆💦💦” kind of way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 12:40 AM
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If you were an FWB she technically wasn’t lying lol. You guys weren’t dating you were just screwing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 12:36 AM
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They don’t have as much stamina as younger dudes not necessarily ED. The refractory period is longer. Especially if he’s not really into fitness and health. A younger guy could be ready to go again in few minutes if even, 35+ you’ll have to wait a lot longer if you even get a round 2 that night.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 12:35 AM
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Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 12:32 AM
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Are you being facetious or are you deadass right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 12:32 AM
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That’s a violation of girl code and I’m pretty sure it’s a violation of bro code too. Depending on how they broke up, who dumped who and how he feels about it you might lose a friend. If she was the one dumped tread lightly she might be trying to use you to get back at him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 12:31 AM
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That doesn’t sound right to me. If it was they wouldn’t go after people for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 12:07 AM
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No, if they don’t want to marry that’s their business. I just don’t think women should have kids with men who won’t marry them if they don’t have everything set like I’ve said repeatedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 07:34 PM
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Unfortunately that’s the world we live in. If/when you marry and with who, if/when you have kids and with who are extremely important decisions that can drastically change your life for better or worse. So I can’t blame people for being anally defensive especially when they see what happens to people who fail. Men who don’t want to get married can still have their forever girlfriends and women can enjoy the pleasures of LTRs. I just could never in good faith encourage any women to bring children…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 07:31 PM
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Ok so then what’s the problem lol?? There’s no way for a woman to know and verify that though, as there’s men that claim this then go on to other women, at the end of the day though the women shouldn’t let herself get swept up. Don’t have any kids with him unless you fit into the category I specified above. If you have kids with a man that didn’t marry you you’re a single mother and have a higher risk of being one with no support than a married woman. If that’s not what you want don’t have kids …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 07:25 PM
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Not just marriage alone. In the case of women everything I said will help keep a lid on the situation. Do not trust a mans words, watch his actions. If he won’t marry you before he has a kid with you he’s not committed to your life together and has one foot out the door. If/when he does marry you and you have children. Make sure you have a sold backup plan in case your “insurance” falls through. Doing this will help the problem. It doesn’t matter if a dad is deadbeat if the woman and her child(r…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 07:18 PM
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They’re idiots for ignoring red flags. With single moms most of them knew the guy wouldn’t stick around or conceived in a situation where him leaving was a high possibility. I don’t know what else you’d call that less than smart behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 06:58 PM
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Ok I think you have to delete it because you’re the start of the chain between you and I.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 06:55 PM
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Except you’re not though? So you’re lying to get out of paying taxes. From googling this it also doesn’t seem possible. IMA if this is what you do you shouldn’t tell people because it sounds like trouble if you get caught. I’m not one to snitch especially when it comes to money matters so let’s just delete the chain and pretend we never talked about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 06:54 PM
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My point still stands educating idiots is a fairly feasible option. Whatever caused flighty husbands and divorce rape wives to be that way doesn’t matter. What’s important is educating people against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 06:52 PM
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No. It’s easier to educate someone against idiocy than to make someone not an asshole/cunt. However you can have it so the asshole/cunt is left to be a bitter mean pos by themselves versus them having a plethora of victims and enablers like lambs to the slaughter. So no I don’t agree stupid people are a “necessary” sacrifice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 06:46 PM
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Which will never happen because the world isn’t ideal. Too many people become jaded from bad experiences and lash out and mistreat others. So the best you can do is educate people so they don’t become fodder for assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 06:42 PM
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You’re speaking from the male perspective which is fine. Do what’s best for you. As a woman though you should not have kids with a man who won’t marry you. Unless you fit into what I said above. Where you have the financial means to take care of your child all on your own without sacrificing quality time, you have the mental fortitude to handle everything that needs to be done, you can find an alternative replacement for the missing second parent etc. Otherwise I’m sorry to say, you’re an idiot …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 06:39 PM
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Best case scenario you should have both. Too many women don’t do either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 06:35 PM
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You can never know that that will always be the case so it’s best, as a woman, to put yourself in the situation where he’s dissuaded from leaving if he changes his mind. Or set your life up where his presence or lack there of is of no consequence to you and the child(ren).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 06:33 PM
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It’s more protection than a relationship. There’s more at stake for a man to leave his wife and mother of his children versus abandoning a gf/baby mama. So in the former case I can forgive the woman a little more for not being in top of things. In the latter situation she should’ve anticipated the downfall of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 06:28 PM
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The only reason it’s not dumb is if the woman knows marriage is something she will never want but she still wants kids. And she has more than enough money to support the child without the help of the father or the government without having to sacrifice critical time with her child. And she has alternatives in place to make up for the absence of the second parent to preserve the child’s mental wellbeing. Any situation outside of this is naive and best and idiotic and selfish at the worst. Which i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 06:25 PM
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Which covered room board and meal plan or was he working? Did you pay his way or?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:38 PM
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You’re both not really the heads of household
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:57 PM
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There’s a finite amount of those but a lot of people that need them. Some more than others. So it’s best to be able to support whatever kids you take charge of on your own wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:56 PM
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No the piece of paper helped a lot. My mom married a friend she had in America to speed up her immigration process. Then that created a chain reaction for me and my dad. Siblings were born here. This allowed her access to better educational opportunities here by making it more affordable. She leveled herself up way more than my dad but she benefitted tax wise from my dads lower income.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:53 PM
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Wouldn’t you get flagged for tax fraud? Why is it a better deal than joint filing or being pulled down into a lower tax bracket? Says who? In my parents case my mom was in a much higher tax bracket than my father.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:50 PM
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That’s the case for most of their dads. From looking at these moms unless they’re pro-life and got accidentally knocked up by a “Chad” or “Tyrone”. They mainly have kids by men they feel or assume will be good co-parents. Out of the 40 kids I see regularly there’s 3 who I can say with absolute certainty fit the bill you’re describing. 2 are from the same mother. One daughter has a conventionally attractive dad who’s a jailbird and the other daughter doesn’t know her dad and has never and probabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:48 PM
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If you’re married you have the option to jointly file taxes and save a considerable amount of money. If both spouses work but one makes less, the lower earner Can pull the higher earner into a low tax bracket and save the couple money etc. These are not available to unmarried cohabitating people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 03:44 PM
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Idk man. My parents came to America broke asf and the institutions of marriage here are largely what contributed to them climbing the class ranks. They wouldn’t be middle class if it wasn’t for marriage. The tax breaks and benefits make it easier to accrue wealth and move up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 03:32 PM
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You need money to do that though. If I was raised with just my mother or father alone. Or they were together but not married and didn’t get the benefits of marriage that they did, my life would’ve been way worse off. They would’ve had less to invest in the success of my siblings and I.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 03:30 PM
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How is being ignored worse than being bullied? Makes sense if you’re a masochist but otherwise that doesn’t add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 02:52 PM
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Dang seems like it sucks to live in the UK then lol. At least you guys have universal healthcare that’s a huge plus.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 02:19 PM
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What tax bracket are you and your fiancé in because in 2015 they introduced a tax break for married couples but it’s only for certain income brackets apparently. If you or your spouse have a personal allowance(money you don’t have to pay taxes on) is equal to or less than 10,500£ you can get a tax break.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 02:05 PM
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When you fill out tax information or payment forms at work it doesn’t ask for your martial status? For a lot of this stuff you don’t have to apply. Getting married and registering your marriage with the government is your “application”. Even for little things married couples take for granted like being able to make decisions when your SO is sick or being the authority in funeral arrangements. Unmarried couples have to fill out separate forms and draw up documents to get those but married couples…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:40 PM
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I shame because women should know the nature of men by now. Even if your parents didn’t tell you. Just watch how they treat women and take note of how they decide who they’re going to treat what way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:33 PM
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I just looked it up and the UK has a few. The tax breaks thing is the same as the US too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:29 PM
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Ok let me put it simply, if two people are putting up money to invest in one thing together and they get tax benefits and privileges from the government for doing so. How do you think they will fare compared to single people doing it all on their own and couples who get no benefits? That’s what the studies are about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:12 PM
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It’s because it’s not pleasureable to all or most people. If they have no moral inhibitions and they thought it felt good they’d do it. They don’t though so obviously it doesn’t feel good enough to sway them,
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:08 PM
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The problem is they can’t afford the child but also are t destitute enough to get benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:06 PM
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That there’s women who can’t pay for the child but also don’t qualify.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:05 PM
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Not enough women are willing to do that because it’s a one way ticket to poverty. Daddy government will collapse as well if there’s not enough people paying in to it. Which will be the case if the ageing and dying members of the workforce aren’t replaced by either younger members of the domestic population or deportees.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:05 PM
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“There are dummies who become idiots” Ftfy. Any woman that signs up to become a single mom in this day and age “because he said he loves me” is a fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:02 PM
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Hopefully euthanasia will be legal globally by then so it won’t have anything to worry about when I’m too old to take care of myself. For everything else that’s what saving and investing is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:01 PM
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Even with that the stats show married people and their children do better economically than single parents and unmarried cohabitating parents. Divorce is a bigger worry. For the 50% of couples that don’t divorce though they’ll be ahead of the pack of whatever economic class they started from. The focus should be on how to ethically lower divorce rates not on trying to sell people against marriage. https://www.worldfinance.com/wealth-management/for-richer-for-poorer-the-economics-of-marriage http…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 12:54 PM
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How is this social shaming? Also countries will just import more foreign labor as some are already starting to do to combat this problem. Someone needs to fill in the gap of the people that are leaving the workforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 12:46 PM
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The purpose of marriage is to build wealth to pass on to your children. Plus it can be more complicated to divorce, and leave your kids than to just break up with your gf and leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 12:39 PM
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Hmm Idk then. I’ll have to look around more and see if anyone has petitioned on behalf of themselves and succeeded in getting their rights and responsibilities removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:33 AM
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Here’s the actual laws: https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/FCT/A6 I’m not the best with legal jargon so I’ll look at laws broken down into layman’s terms sometimes to aid my comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:19 AM
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Looks like Texas is a no go. There’s no loopholes that I could find. Texas seems to have more stringent laws on reproductive rights compared to New York but not as bad as some other southern states.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:12 AM
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That looks like it’s for adoption. Give me another sec I’ll look into Texas and see what’s up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:08 AM
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https://www.nycourts.gov/CourtHelp/Family/parentalRights.shtml https://www.eskinandeskinlaw.com/terminating-parental-rights-new-york/ https://www.longislandlitigators.com/our-blog/2019/may/losing-parental-rights-in-new-york/ https://m.wikihow.com/Sign-over-Your-Rights-As-a-Father Basically if you went cold turkey no contact with the child and the child has now emotional connection to you for 6+ months you can petition to relinquish your rights or the mother can petition to have your rights remov…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:06 AM
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Ok one sec I’ll link some stuff about NY as that’s my state. Can’t speak too much on the others. Abandonment is also grounds for termination here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 03:58 AM
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It varies state per state so you can look into more if you want. What is considered abandonment, the time frame needed before a petition can be filed, whether this can be done involuntarily etc all vary state by state.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 03:50 AM
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“•Abandonment: The court will review whether the parent previously abandoned the mother during pregnancy or abandoned the child after he or she was born. •Communication efforts: The court generally considers the non-custodial parents' past efforts to have a relationship with the child.” 2 points that the court takes into consideration when deciding whether or not to allow the termination of parental rights. https://www.verywellfamily.com/overview-of-signing-over-parental-rights-2997635 https://w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 03:39 AM
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Both. If the mother was abandoned during pregnancy and the child has been abandoned and there’s no hope that things will improve in the future paternal rights can be terminated. If everything has gone well up until the point of the request then that’s when you need another person there to adopt the child if the mother isn’t on board(sometimes it’s the same thing even if she is) but yeah. Basically if the dude doesn’t give a crap about the kid and shows it, his paternal responsibilities can be el…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 03:34 AM
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That sounds like a recipe for disaster. Plus you could never vacation outside of the country with a guy like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 03:12 AM
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It’s because if she cares about the money and ensuring her child is financially set a single mother will probably be working 20-30 hours longer to provide for her child(ren). Where a two parent household could work 30-40 hours and their combined income would be more than enough. Plus both parents won’t be as exhausted and can spend more quality time with their child when they come home. They can split the child rearing duties as well which will be good for the parents mental health and in turn g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 02:51 AM
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I know many work and they have to work a lot because children are expensive. This takes away from time they can spend investing and bonding with their child because they’re drained or just don’t have the time. They’re one person doing what should ideally be the job of 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 02:41 AM
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Social network as in friends and family who are willing to consistently help you. There’s different types of welfare available but you can’t live off that so you’ll need to work to pick up the slack.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 02:35 AM
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Yes but I seldom encounter them so I have more of an opinion on single mothers. Unless they have a strong social network and a lot of disposable income those are typically the most common and available options for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 02:28 AM
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That’s a sizable chunk of men. They only step up if they really love the woman. Even in my own family I’ve seen this. My dad has 4 kids but only myself and my 2 younger siblings were born in wedlock and had the privilege of growing with him in the house everyday. Same situation with my grandpa and granduncles and their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 02:27 AM
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I work with plenty of kids from single mother homes and most of their dads are not Chads or Tyrone’s.Most of their dads are average dudes who just didn’t want to be with their child’s mother for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 02:24 AM
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They can’t raise kids adequately. Something that the child needs is always neglected. Either these women are working crazy long hours and have no time and energy to actually emotionally, invest and connect with their kids, or they barely work and they struggle to financially provide for the child. Either way the kid suffers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 02:19 AM
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In some states you can rescind your paternal rights so you’ll have no responsibility towards the child. It’s a legal abortion in a sense. If the woman keeps the child/or lives in a place where abortion isn’t a viable option and gives them up for adoption you can take on full custody of your own child.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 02:16 AM
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It’s your choice at the end of the day if you don’t want to do it don’t. If you do, do. Just mentally prepare yourself to deal with the potential negative consequences of whatever choice you make.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 02:05 AM
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Glad someone gets it lol. I recommend this to any man who doesn’t like women but feels like they “need” women for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:59 AM
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If there’s no consequences, they won’t get caught, and they don’t have kids of their own. 80%
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:50 AM
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Nah, I prefer women. If you were my type I might ride your face but not your wee wee. Anyway I’m being dead serious here. What’s your type I’ll find you some examples of androgynous looking pretty boys that fit it. If you don’t like women that’s ok, you can find guys to meet your sexual needs with as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:35 AM
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He just needs a femboy. Then he’ll be golden. Sounds like that’s what he’s looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:30 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:28 AM
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Acne, yellow teeth, pedophile, has a racial fetish, too lax on hygiene, bad social skills, dirty nails etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:28 AM
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Sounds like a lot of hassle for what you want. There’s a lot of pretty men out there 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:24 AM
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You don’t have to get it from women through. There’s a lot of really pretty guys that are dtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:23 AM
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You can have sex with men too. Go all the way cut out the “middleman”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:22 AM
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Hardwood is pretty tough. It’s as hard as smooth granite but with a little more texture. Idk it was painful to me and I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone but at the end of the day it’s their choice. Yeah I’m a woman. I thought the teddy bear would be better because he’s smaller so my neck wouldn’t be so arched off the ground but it didn’t help at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 04:51 AM
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That’s why you’re used to it lol. I’ve always slept in a bed and the only times I slept on the floor was in a sleeping bag and/or on carpet. No, I slept on a hardwood floor. It was summer too so I only had 1 thin sheet. I had a pillow the first day but it seemed to make it worse so day 2 I slept on my teddy bear but that didn’t help either. My bed had come by day 3 and I set it up asap.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 03:50 AM
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Nah I did it for 2 days when I got rid of my air mattress and was waiting for my real bed to come and I woke up with soreness both days I was 19 at the time. I sleep too weird to not have a real bed lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 03:38 AM
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Thank you for helping alleviate my regrets about always being the sober friend lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 03:36 AM
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From reading up on him if he was still alive today I think he’d be like these people: https://youtu.be/sf3VkeUQPK8
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 03:16 AM
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The mattress will start to smell of sweat and mildew if there’s nothing covering it. Maybe I’m just spoiled but sleeping on a floor is not comfortable at all to me. It can be cooling but it can also cause joint paint ime.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 03:07 AM
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This is crazy though. What about your own health and comfort?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 02:53 AM
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Idk man. I knew guys weren’t as decorative and stuff as women but I’ve never met a guy who didn’t have a bed with a frame and sheets, couch or futon and a Tv. I thought he was messing with me but he said it’s fairly common especially among guys under 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 02:43 AM
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True true and it seems some do because there were Chinese people using some American social media sites before vpns popped off. Either they were ahead of the curve or they found some other loophole.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 02:40 AM
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I wouldn’t say you’re obsolete. Just the fact that you’re chill about stuff that would typically call for concern is funny to me because he’s the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 02:38 AM
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From the list that you’d have by choice, you’re miles ahead of op and the guys my friend has slept with. That and s clean place is acceptable. People need to treat themselves better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 02:37 AM
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Well as you said China doesn’t have google and vpns started getting popular fairly recently. In the gap China created their own alternative version of basically every internet thing America has.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 02:29 AM
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Lol your attitude kind of reminds me of my dad. Anyway that’s not really how it works. Most people have to put effort into making their place nice. You can get really good deals on furniture or even get it second hand from a friend. A certain level of proactiveness is needed though. Same principle when it comes to cleaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 02:28 AM
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If she knew enough to get to China. She’ll definitely know what Baidu is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 02:21 AM
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Not so fast! There is if you have a good vpn. Otherwise use Baidu it’s basically the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 02:19 AM
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So your male friends are fine chilling in a dirty house with no furniture? Where do they sit? Where do they sleep if they crash at your place?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 02:13 AM
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You should do it for your own health and comfort at least. You’re better than a sparsely covered mattress on the floor of a dirty empty apartment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 02:03 AM
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Do people outside of kink communities actually do this? Aren’t they afraid they’ll get kicked out and reported to the police??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 02:02 AM
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It would take 2 seconds on google to call out his bs
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 01:59 AM
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For real I just told my friend(he’s gay) what I read and he apparently has been to a fair amount of guys homes where they had literally nothing but a mattress and a comforter. That’s mind blowing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 01:58 AM
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Ok but even still. No bed frame, sheets or seating? Not cleaning? That’s bare minimum stuff any adult should have in their home and if you don’t, don’t invite anyone to your box.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 01:51 AM
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Seriously lmao. You can get some decently priced furniture so it doesn’t make sense. Plus if you’re that broke dating should be the least of your worries.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 01:49 AM
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Yes lol. I’m not trying to be a victim of revenge porn or end up on the sex offenders registry. For rooms, every person I’ve slept with has had a bed with a frame and decent sheets and somewhere to sit besides the bed. I have the same at my place, I’d be too embarrassed to invite company over if I didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 01:30 AM
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Fair but a least get adequate sheets and a frame for your bed lol. A couch or some decent seating too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 01:16 AM
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No because that’s how you end up on the internet and potentially have your life ruined. Or you just set yourself up for trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 01:15 AM
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A lot of men unconsciously practice extreme minimalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 01:13 AM
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They were strict. That’s why I never dared to sleep with anyone under their roof.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 11:55 PM
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It’s 60% of what matters to me then the rest is compatibility. I have a decent range of what I’m physically attracted to in guys though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 11:54 PM
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Lmfaooo no. I was a virgin until I left home for college hours away. They would’ve found out some way some how if I brought someone home.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 11:38 PM
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It depends on how strict your parents are. I keep my dating life away from my parents for this very reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 11:34 PM
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“If you can’t cook and keep a home you can’t keep a man” “You’re cute but not that that cute so don’t let your looks go to your head. Make sure you have something to fall back on when they fade” “Guys will say anything to get in a girls pants, watch his actions not his words” “Men like their egos stroked so make them feel before asking a favor and they’ll do whatever you want” Some of it was useless for me because it’s not applicable to my dating goals but some of it was good. They were really s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 11:14 PM
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Men definitely do say it to women’s faces and from hanging out with girls sports and other benign male activities aren’t what we make fun of you guys for lol. Women aren’t viewed as less feminine for enjoying feminine/girly activities. What I was trying to say is this: Men who enjoy stereotypically female activities are judged as being feminine or “gay” even if this isn’t an accurate label. When women enjoy traditionally male activities, Other women aren’t so scrutinizing about their femininity …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 09:15 PM
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Examples? At most the Dumpees friend group will support them but the rest of society stays neutral. They don’t know if the dumpee was a toxic or abusive partner so they won’t be quick to jump to the aid of the dumpee without further information.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 07:44 PM
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They’re rejected by girls who don’t want it. The ones who do will take him up on his Offer if he’s attractive to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 07:41 PM
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Only some do. Women who it doesn’t apply to will vehemently deny it. The rest of women either don’t say anything or back the claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 07:39 PM
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From my observation society doesn’t rally around either as the victim until some other information is presented(cheating, abuse, not pulling their weight etc) then they choose sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 07:35 PM
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These guys are not the type to do that. As I said you were arguing the peak age and the cut off age. I brought up how the cut off age is culturally dependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 07:22 PM
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Tl;dr anyways for the first sentence I’ve had other men tell me different numbers which is why I gave you a range. I noticed that men from the same culture tend to give similar answers. As I suspected we weren’t talking about the same thing at all lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 07:06 PM
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Fair enough😊
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:48 PM
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It doesn’t matter to me either way. I’m not interested in being with a man long term. I don’t think we’re arguing the same thing. I’m talking about the cut of for when a woman’s attractiveness is significantly reduced in the eyes of men. It varies drastically. You’re alleging that in China that in the cut of is 24 and that number is biologically ingrained. My argument is that it’s not biologically ingrained because the cut of is different for different cultures. Nah. For some men 20 is way too o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:36 PM
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Lol our dog knows not to go on the beds. He has his own bed in every room in the house to sleep on and blankets as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:33 PM
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Maybe that’s why, ours is a shaggy poodle hybrid but idk. All dogs smell kind of similar to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:32 PM
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The guy I was replying to already listed a few. Besides eye roll like you said and saying men “take sports too seriously” women don’t really comment or judge male sports fanatics in the same way that men do to women. Some women will also engage in sports mania right along with men and won’t other women won’t view them as contemptuously as men involved in girly activities. They’re not inherently viewed as less feminine/less of a woman etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:30 PM
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Well the good news is if you have the charisma, humor and friendliness the bar to pass for looks is fairly low.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:26 PM
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It’s not personality detector if it’s their own words. It’s like this is 70% of people who choose to comment on s particular topic(X) have the same view(Y). It’s fair to conclude that most people who comment on X have Y view.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:24 PM
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Im saying I can see a trend based on what people choose to post to when they choose to post. You Can notice certain patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 04:16 PM
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If it was genetically ingrained there wouldn’t be such a big gap in the cut off age cross cultural it ranges from 21-35 depending on cultural or regional factors. Men from China get women abroad if they can’t get a Chinese woman. The shortage of women has amplified Chinese women’s hypergamy and lower class men and rural working class men can’t keep up. Women in their economic class leave and go to look for men in the cities, so that leaves the men only 2 options. Be alone or find a wife abroad. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 02:51 PM
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Doesn’t seem to be a hardlined thing though. People always pegged my mom as younger than her age because of her looks. Now that I’m an adult I’ve run into the same issue. People won’t start treating you differently until you tell them your age and prove it. Whats RTL? The leftover women this is propaganda to put pressure on Chinese women to settle down quickly. There’s a shortage of women there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 02:28 PM
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I don’t see the disparity between what you said and what I said? Accomplished women typically do not want to date men who aren’t accomplished. Women will level up academically and financially for their own direct benefit but also to run in the same circles as accomplished men. More often than not though if a woman expresses that this is her plan men will tell her that status and money don’t attract men in the way it does women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 01:54 PM
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You can signal that by just not indulging in those things yourself. They definitely do shit on the girls themselves though. They use participation in these activities as a justification for making negative character judgements of the women and girls. They’ll deem them vapid, vain, catty, materialistic etc. Agree on the second point. That’s clear from the liberal use of “Thot” and “attention whore” to label any women and girls who like traditionally male things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 01:12 PM
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Those friends could turn into something more. “I giggle my way into the pussy” -David So
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 01:07 PM
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Doesn’t it stink sleeping with your dog? My family washes our dog regularly and we brush his teeth and give him dental chews yet he still has a distinct “dog smell” or “sweaty dog smell” From just running around playing and doing his thing. It’s not horrible but I wouldn’t want him in my bed lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 01:00 PM
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It’s really not. They could just be neutral apathetic but yet they’re choosing to express how much they dislike xyz thing and make fun of people who indulged. It’s dislike at best and hatred at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 12:56 PM
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Yeah, mostly I’d sleep over there’s but sometimes I let the person sleep over my place too. Sometimes for days at a time. It depends on what the two people in question are comfortable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 12:54 PM
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Men hate on girly non, slutty activities too though so idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 12:51 PM
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Then it’s consent to a gangbang
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 02:31 AM
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It’s the same thing with commitment lol. Life isn’t fair, most of us will have to work for what we want and for many it won’t pay off.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 02:29 AM
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So in your scenario if you date a guy but it’s not at any of his personal private spaces consent isn’t a given?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 02:27 AM
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Some of them are chads and Tyrone’s and I still never felt tempted. Friends are friends and fuckbuddies are fuckbuddies. Mixing the two can be a recipe for disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 08:18 PM
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Oh ok ok
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 08:11 PM
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Is this a headlined thing or is it more a matter or perception to expand. A woman who is post 30 but looks like she’s in her twenties. She gets a “youth boost” from people who don’t know her age. Would you say she’s post wall or not yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:45 PM
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So would you say Kate Winslet has hit the wall or not yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:40 PM
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Gangbangs? Or did I miss s detail or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:38 PM
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That only happens if there’s sexual chemistry that they couldn’t act on previously for some reason. I’ve never used one of my male friends as a rebound because I don’t see them that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:36 PM
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Drinking at 18? What country? Canada? U.K?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 01:33 PM
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Typically no because they’re not into women. It’s a good scene if you want to have a clubbing experience without being hit on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 01:32 PM
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No, it largely depends on genetics, how well the woman took care of herself etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:48 AM
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I don’t doubt it but yeah the move will probably improve your dating prospects. Best of luck with everything!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:45 AM
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A lot of women will hold themselves to the same standards then men will turn around and tell them that men don’t care about a woman’s income, degrees and accomplishments in the same way a woman cares about a mans.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:43 AM
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What if she goes girls night clubbing at gay clubs only?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:41 AM
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If it’s a girls night a lot of women will just dance with their friends. I barely go clubbing but when I do I dance with women and gay men. Not straight guys. It’s the same for my female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:40 AM
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Why so cynical? They were probably kids for the bulk of that friendship. Sheesh!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:38 AM
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That might be why then I saw further down you mentioned the women are poly/non-monogamous. If it’s a realistic possibility for you I’d recommend looking into the kink scenes in slightly more conservative states. The women there may have a different attitude towards LTR. If not all I can say is keep searching and best of luck. Try putting that you’re looking for a long term relationship in your OLD profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:34 AM
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Do you live in one of the coastal states? Like Cali or New York?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:27 AM
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Where are you finding these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:25 AM
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You just message them if they’re in your area, vet them and meet up. It’s the same as OLD
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:23 AM
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Are you interested in a 24/7 Dom-sub relationship? That might turn some women off. Most just want that play to happen and stay in the bedroom if you’re not on the same page they’ll be reluctant to LTR you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:21 AM
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I’m aware certain circumstances have to line up for it to work. Most people don’t care to have opposite gender friendships anyway. Lmao that’d be so awkward and I’m 99% sure they’d think I’m pranking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 11:29 PM
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I know when it comes to my friends because we’ve had these conversations before so ik for sure there’s mutual sexual disinterest. It can be possible for other people too in the same circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 10:42 PM
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I don’t think that’s true it’s more so how you both see each other. All my close guy friends view me as a sister and I view them as brothers. They’ve been single at the same time as me and nothing ever happened because we don’t view each other that way. I can see what you’re saying but usually that happens if there was some attraction from one or both sides to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 08:26 PM
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I don’t think that’s true. I have a few male friends where the relationship is fully platonic. I’m not attracted to them and vice versa. We have overlapping hobbies and interests though so we became friends. In our case the “want” is company, a plus one for certain events and activities etc. Nothing sexual or romantic though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 07:11 PM
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Nurture difference I guess cause I would just cry every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:50 PM
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I would be more depressed and anxious in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:40 PM
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That I’ve struggled with personally or in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:18 PM
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There’s still some women in support of these fringes ideals despite that so I don’t see why they wouldn’t be able to convert some more. Like that woman who goes around with her husband campaigning for women to lose their voting rights. You’ll never get all or even the majority of women on board but they could have a more size-able minority if they had a clear plan that didn’t end with women being sex slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:11 PM
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Sure but they wouldn’t be met with as much and they’d have more support.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:59 PM
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The point about the thirstyness is definitely true. I had to work a lot more to be able to attract women vs getting with guys. It’s worth it to me though because I like women a little more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:56 PM
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That was track for me and after giving it my absolute best effort I accepted I wasn’t meant to be a sprinter and I switched specialties. I wasn’t angry about anything. Just frustrated and disappointed. From talking to the other guys here though it seems the problem is that many of them weren’t prepared by their guardians for certain harsh realities and externalized anger is an “appropriately masculine” way of expressing their displeasure, disappointed etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:53 PM
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It’s because from what I’ve seen people calling for destruction don’t have a solid plan of how things will go after. So of course they’re ideas are met with resistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:47 PM
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How long have you been studying English?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:58 AM
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The sleep explanation made sense too. Muito Obrigada pelo ajuda!! 🤗 Forgive me if I made a grammatical error lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:57 AM
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True true, I didn’t think of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:15 AM
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I will if I ever get an appropriate opportunity. It’s 2 things: 1- I’m thinking from the perspective of a guy that’s completely failing to get sex not one that’s managing and getting by. So with your business analogy all I could think is: what if you’re losing money and you’re not making any? Wouldn’t it make more sense to stop temporarily and figure things out before resuming. It’s the same thing with a sexless guy if you don’t have spare resources and the ones you do have aren’t yielding a ret…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:58 AM
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I still can’t wrap my head around it but I’ll just take your word for it because I think this will just be one of those things that will forever be beyond my mental grasp.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:44 AM
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Thank you for your response! From talking to other guys here I’ve concluded that this is a nurture thing(not being prepared) and then a little bit of nature(how guys choose to express the hurt)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:41 AM
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Yeah that’s why I apologized because I didn’t want it to come off as insensitive or trivializing. I was trying to communicate that although not with dating and not on the same scale I can relate to the feeling of giving something your all and still failing at it every time no matter what you do. With walking I could see feeling like that in a world without modern technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:38 AM
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The results are subjective based on how the guy chooses to interpret the rejection though so intention does matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:32 AM
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I’m aware money is just one resource. If you manage yourself correctly you can have spare resources. When it comes to dating time energy and money are the main ones you need. If you don’t have any to spare why are you investing them in risky endeavors? That’s like trying to buy stocks when you’re in debt. Wouldn’t it make more sense to pull back manage yourself until you have spare resources then invest? During the times when I’m sleep deprived, have extra expenses to pay and lacking free time I…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:26 AM
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Are you referring to my comment with the other guy? I’m aware that’s why I said I know it’s not a direct comparison and apologized in advance. They’re the only things in my life so far that I really cared for yet perpetually failed at so they were the only point of reference I could think of to understand this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:19 AM
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Yes lol. It’s hard to maintain with straight men though if they view you as a potential romantic/sexual partner. Things will get messy then and guys end up feeling used and manipulated girls preyed upon etc. If attraction isn’t present from either side though then it can work out really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:16 AM
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Yeah. From talking to other guys here though I think this boils down to mainly nurture with a sprinkling of nature. My parents lowkey prepared me from young though so I think that’s why.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:07 AM
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The second point adds a lot of clarity. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:04 AM
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The rejection or acceptance of you as a person or them mistreating or treating you well is similar. It’s just the type of interest that’s different.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:03 AM
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No. I’m slow to anger and the only times I have gotten angry are in situations where the person was clearly being malicious. When it’s unintentional my heart just hurts but I’m not angry, just sad and occasionally anxious. So I’m not really the best barometer for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:01 AM
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Why is it not an option, I’m definitely not rich by any means. I was a broke college student for the bulk of my dating experience. I just manage my money, time and expectations well. Guys in my boat or better could manage this. Even with masturbation? Is it a testosterone thing? I’m in the lowest tax bracket atm lol. I just would sometimes work more than one job, save and manage my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 04:58 AM
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Hmm I think this has to do with nurture then because most of the time I assume I did something or played some part before assuming the problem is external. That’s how I was raised though and I know not everyone is like me. Thank you for your response though!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 04:52 AM
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Wouldn’t negative platonic experiences with men or positive platonic experiences with women balance out the guys view though?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 04:49 AM
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Thank you for responding! Unless she was intentionally malicious for no reason, she’s not really trying to hurt you. You’re just not what she’s looking for. It’s the same in reverse, if you reject women I’m sure it’s not because you want to hurt them, you’re just not into them. The rest is kind of understandable but Idk getting mad a people who weren’t trying to hurt you doesn’t make sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 04:31 AM
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Well yeah I don’t date unless all my main stuff is caught up and I have extra money and time to spend. I’m aware of my mortality and I work on making all kinds of meaningful connections, and invest in self care so even if I couldn’t find a sexual or romantic partner I’d still be happy. I can empathize with this and I can understand feeling anxious or worried but not angry. Idk though. Thank you for taking your time to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 04:27 AM
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Fair enough it’s not too dissimilar though, in both cases you’re not what the other person was looking for. Many go through a resentful stage before ending up like me. That pit stop is what I don’t get.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 04:21 AM
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Ok this kind of makes sense thank you! I have one follow up though when it comes to dating why do many men phrase things as if they’re mad at women? Or sexually successful men instead of the situation as a whole?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 04:19 AM
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Well I know my temperament and I’ve never felt that way. Probably because of the way I was raised. I‘ve had things I failed at unrelentingly and if I know I have it my all I’d just accept I’m not cut out for it and move along. I didn’t become hateful about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 04:17 AM
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Fair enough. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 04:09 AM
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Thank you for your response! I’m aware of all of the above. I can understand the 4th but not the other 3. In case one I’d learn from my mistakes and do better going forward. I wouldn’t get mad at women over spending resources and having certain expectations that weren’t met. Same with 3 I’d just course correct. With 2 I’d look at what those people are doing and see if it’s applicable to my situation if not I’d try my best to figure out something that is. In all of this though I don’t understand …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 04:07 AM
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Ok but this I can understand though because you had a, presumably, nasty divorce. You and your so didn’t start out hating each other so I could see how the ending would leave a sour taste in your mouth and similar for any man who’s gone through the same. You’re literally going through a grieving process. For just not being able to pick up girls though? I don’t get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:55 AM
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Consistently? no, but even if I had it wouldn’t have driven me to the point of nearly or completely hating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:52 AM
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But why? Is it nature? Nurture? Both?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:51 AM
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You’re a mgtow? Why do you care lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 08:06 PM
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I think these women know that. Even with body pos most women know that if you want to attract a lot of guys you have to get as close to conventional beauty standards as possible, they’re banking on getting one guy though. They’re holding out hope for “the one” their perfect guy who’ll look past the exterior and see their heart of gold
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 08:01 PM
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Honestly it depends, I grew up with that messaging a little bit too but the culture of the town I grew up in was so different it didn’t matter. Parents there would straight up tell their daughters if you’re ugly, unfeminine and can’t keep a home you’ll never get a guy. In school the girls were pretty realistic about things too although some were definitely bitter about it. I think that’s more the case with millennials, they know what they have to do they just resent that that’s the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 07:57 PM
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The second choice I guess but I don’t think it’d be someone I’d hate. I’d just be a more successful, attractive version of myself. Tbh though I think I wouldn’t mind either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 07:50 PM
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I’m glad to hear that the wlw dating scene is similar all around the US. Spot on. That’s definitely something I struggled with when I first started dating women, it just made me way better at reading body language and subtle signs of flirtation. I missed quite a few opportunities before I got the hang of things though lol. Looking back now though it all seems so obvious. I couldn’t have said it better. Men have their charms too but these days a lot of them seem very 1D and listless. It’s not all…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 07:23 PM
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When I said put together I meant all of the above, they’re more ambitious, responsible, organized etc. As far as mental health issues go I don’t find them to be a problem if the person is actively working through them. In my friend circles and from my dating experience I’ve noticed women are more inclined to seek mental health help, find healthy coping methods or outlets for release than men. Guys seem to have a more pessimistic view of these things. So even with that I find women easier to deal…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 04:22 PM
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I’ve been but I’m not a huge partier. My one party experience was weird af a group of dudes paid my friends and I to go to a party with them but I’m pretty sure that’s not normal. I’ll have to concede on that though. I didn’t think the scene was that bad post college. I knew frat parties were like this because guys would be literally picking girls off the street or on campus to convince them to go, but that’s because they made guys pay to get in. So they needed to have a certain amount of girls …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 03:02 PM
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Oh ok lol. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 02:29 PM
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Irl this doesn’t seem to happen to certain types of average guys. If they’re average looking but put a good amount of thought into their clothes, hairstyle and cologne that bumps them up a point or 2. Then if they work on their social skills being funny, engaging, dynamic etc and also work up the confidence to show that to a girl the 5 guys have way more success. They’re still a 5 but a dapper 5 so they become a 6-7 in the eyes of many women even though they have the same face and body. This wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 02:26 PM
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How so? You are entertaining it by responding to her. People that don’t agree will scroll by and just respond to your only points. Others go on way worse tangents in threads here all the time and it takes nothing away from the main discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 02:20 PM
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LPT? And you don’t have to kill them. Just work on yourself and shoot your shot when the hot guys literally aren’t right there lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 02:17 PM
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You can objectify someone in a “positive” or “negative” way. A lot of guys start out with an inhuman idealist view of a girl or girls they like then their heart is crushed when she does something to shatter this view. Some immediately realize that women, just like men, are people and can be flawed and make mistakes. So the way they view women shifts to a more healthy one. Others still don’t get it right away and they shift to viewing women as sex toys/objects. Then when this doesn’t pan out the …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 02:16 PM
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That’s when you’re in direct competition with a hot guy like on the apps. If the hot guys weren’t at the party or you were in a different setting where it’s just you vying for her attention what do you think will set you apart from her other average choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 02:07 PM
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Her opinion is relevant what she said and what you said aren’t mutually exclusive bro. It’s also no more misandrist than yours is misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 02:03 PM
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She has a good point as well. What the two of you said isn’t mutually exclusive. Once guys internalize the main point op made. That their dating experience won’t be identical to women, they start comparing themselves to other men in an unhealthy way. “I’m putting in the same effort as xyz man why aren’t my results the same” or “I did (whatever bare minimum behavior the heard women say they like) why don’t I have a girlfriend??” Both things are happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 02:01 PM
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When I say New York I don’t mean NYC lol. First experience was with a small city north of manhattan and it was good there but the lesbian dating scene was really small. Then second was with my college town in northern New York and it was much better there. There were a larger variety of girls, dating scene was better, they have gay and lesbian bars you can go to. In my college town as well because the scene is bigger there’s less ex drama. In the first city because it was so small there’d be a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 01:56 PM
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Then they’re probably both feminine acting. I’m not butch and the women I date aren’t either but that’s never been a problem, I always take the lead if they’re not assertive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 01:47 PM
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It depends what type of feminine you’re referring to. Feminine looking or feminine acting? Both could be feminine looking but one could be masculine acting. Or they could be a switch like me and compensate based on the other persons temperament.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 01:43 PM
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I’m not a lesbian I’m Bi. From dating both though My opinion is that dating women is “harder” in the sense that you have to put in more work to get a girl. So if you’re looking for a ons or str guys are much easier. They put out with minimum effort. When it comes to longer term dating/sexual arrangements though girls are the way to go for me. They’re typically much more respectful, sociable, put together and enjoyable than guys in the cities I’ve dated in New York. It could be different in other…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 01:40 PM
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I’m really bad a picking fake names but I’ll try and go back and edit it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 08:39 PM
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I do now because some people just genuinely aren’t self aware. If I know them I have a convo with them if I didn’t like what I saw and then go from there. Like with “Matt” he started dating a pushy guy, the guy isn’t malicious though, so I gave him the benefit of the doubt and talked to him about “Matt’s” temperament. “Mike” the bf is much more considerate now and “Matt” is also way more comfortable vocalizing himself and enforcing his boundaries to “Mike” from what I’ve seen. When it comes to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 08:33 PM
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You sure about that because when googling it comes up with “sexual coercion” and not all forms of it are criminal. Type of threat, power dynamics, age of victim and aggressor etc are all taken into account to determine the legality. So mostly it’s not on the same level as rape. Like I said to most women it’s just a hardship that comes with being a woman that you have to work to defend against. The homeless man thing is good to know for future purposes. The scenarios I listed weren’t about sex. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 08:14 PM
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The homeless man didn’t actually make physical contact though. He just moved in closer. Is that really a crime?Just seems disrespectful and like very very poor tact. I’ve never heard women claim this is as bad as rape. Just that it’s something quite hard they have to deal with, and work through. This isn’t exclusive to women either just more common due to the way women are raised in most cultures. The ”real friend” quote is actually something that happened to a passive male friend of mine. In th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 07:24 PM
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Huh? No, it’d be more like if the homeless guy asked you for money. You say no. He asks again. You say no. He moves closer to you and begs again with more pressure “don’t you have a heart can’t you just give me one quarter? I’m so hungry I’ll die out here, please? please?” so he’s disregarded your boundaries, discarded your no multiple times and now trying to guilt trip you by making you feel like there’ll be consequences if you don’t give him the money. So you cave. That’s what I’m saying. To g…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 06:59 PM
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This goes back to body language there’s exceptions to everything but generally there’s a few differences between shy girls who are into you/girls playing coy and girls who are shy/passive and not into you. Both types will be quiet, seem unopen to convo, lack eye contact, retreat into themselves, and get kind of shaky when they talk or they won’t talk with conviction. This is as far as many people go when they read body language but there’s more to it. In this instance though I fully understand t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 02:23 PM
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1st. Women are not a monolith. Some women are passive and others are not. What I’m saying is when you encounter the passive types tread lightly and respect them if they muster up the courage to say no. If they’re uncomfortable leave them alone. They typically give non-verbal cues. Learning about body language can only help you, not hurt you. Can you tell me the difference between the aforementioned traits in a social setting? I’m trying to see something. It’s honestly not that hard. I manage to …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 01:54 PM
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Many women learn with time but it takes practice. Tbh I’ve honestly resorted to pretending I don’t speak English or lying children and STDs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 01:35 PM
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Women also want men to read verbal and non-verbal cues and be thoroughly educated on consent among other things but yet here we are. Men pick and choose what wants they will go along with and what they will ignore so please dead that. Men aren’t doing women a favor they’re engaging in something they find mutually beneficial. There’s women pushing the fat acceptance movement yet I don’t see you all gung-ho about that. There’s a difference between being assertive and making a move, and trying to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 01:33 PM
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Then that’s when they asked “oh but can’t you have friends” if you tell them you already have some “what’s one more? I’m a nice guy”. There’s people out here who really won’t take no for an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 01:21 PM
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The same way you can coerce anyone into doing anything. If you know some is passive and timid all you have to do is keep pressuring them and they’ll give in to what you want. Especially if you make them feel like there’ll be consequences for saying no. It’s happened to all the pushover people pleasers and I know and it’s really fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 01:20 PM
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As I said a lot of studies on ipv(emotional and physical) that take age into account are old.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 01:56 AM
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I couldn’t find any studies comparing different types of age gap couples in the US but I found these. It seems older men change their methods of abuse. Age effects physical but not emotional abuse among women https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/01443330210790120/full/html This one is old too tbh though. A lot of studies on this stuff seems to be 6-10+ years old Here’s the same study on a different site just in case you can’t log into the first site https://www.researchgate.net/pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 01:43 AM
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A study that didn’t control for the “why” so it’s honestly is pretty useless. Like I said I will need to see comparisons between different types of age gap couples to come to a definitive conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 01:28 AM
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If younger women are naturally more vulnerable wouldn’t this bolster the point that they’re less capable of holding their own against an older more experienced man vs one around their age? Older women due to the experience they’ve gained with age could simply be better at vetting men than younger less experienced women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 01:08 AM
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If they’re old and inaccurate of course. . . Also another side note. There’s study on non-physical/emotional abuse that contradict your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 12:51 AM
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Of course but if the guy is around their age chances are they will have similar amounts of life and relationship experience. At least more likely than a large age gap couple. The playing field is more level and the woman will be more likely to hold her own than she would against an older much more experienced man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 12:46 AM
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Not really the two older cohorts(25-49 and 50+) had higher rates of ipv than the youngest group. Plus this study is 8 years old, only physical violence was taken into consideration and the only real way to know if your claim holds weight is to compare dv among various types of age gap couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 12:37 AM
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Yes I would and I’m black. Which is why I said “I loathe to admit it but stereotypes exist for a reason” I’ve never been the victim of a crime committed by an Asian person. I can’t say the same when it comes to white, black or Hispanic people for certain crimes. Which I’m honestly not even shocked by because it aligns with crime stats and stereotypes. They’re not true for All people of the group in question but it’s true for enough people that outsiders start noticing a pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 12:14 AM
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They’re not unfounded and as much as I loathe to admit it stereotypes exist for a reason. Usually a notable proportion of the group perpetuates the stereotypes and that’s why it exists. Most older men who go for teens or twenty somethings much younger than them don’t have good intentions. Women who were once those teens know this and warn younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 12:03 AM
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There’s plenty of young hot looking women that are a more acceptable age that they don’t pursue. And for a reason. Women who are older are able to spot their red flags much more quickly than a teenager can.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 12:00 AM
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That’s what I’m wondering too lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 07:14 PM
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Most do though. Men don’t care in the sense that they’ll still sleep with sluts unlike women who won’t sleep with lvm. They still care though and it shows on how they treat sluts vs women they think are HV
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 07:13 PM
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No it doesn’t lol, there’s def more than 10% hovering around that medium/average category. Plus it says the bulk of women messages go to these men anyway so it’s not true that they’re all gunning for “Chad”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 05:01 PM
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Oh ok lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 04:58 PM
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Dunya?? I find that hard to believe but ok lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 04:27 PM
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No one will call a man gay, misogynist or Incel for being voluntarily celibate. No one will even really know unless you tell them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 04:24 PM
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What else is it for? Most people aren’t on there looking for genuine relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 04:21 PM
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The stat you linked doesn’t show that women find 80% of men ugly. They find a decent chunk of them to be average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 04:18 PM
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You can’t force people to be kind. I have friends in my circle who are very passive and don’t enforce their boundaries and they’ve gotten taken advantage of. It would be wonderful if everyone in the world had the decency to not try to abuse people like that but I’m not holding my breath. The best that can be done is if you’re their friend and you’re more assertive defend them and help boost their confidence so they learn to be more assertive too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 03:17 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 08:22 AM
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No offense but you sound like you watch way too much hate-porn. You don’t want everyone to “be happier” and this comment proves it you want some sort of suck vindication for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 08:14 AM
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Even in the third world shithole with no social services that some of my family came from, girls were becoming single mothers. They still are in that country. It has nothing to do with profitability and everything to do with ignorance, naivety, lack of birth control and/or abortion access and poor family planning. The single mothers I know who became single mothers became so for the following reasons: -condom broke -bc muff up -naively thinking the “pull out method” would work -teen pregnancy an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 07:54 AM
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Why childless? There’s plenty of sperms in the banks and foster kids that need loving homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 07:38 AM
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I don’t think there is any. There’s just beta males threatening to do it and claiming it’s starting to happen and people are entertaining them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 07:36 AM
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I don’t think I did. You said you hope Trump Cuts welfare so that it’s no longer profitable to be a single mother. It’s not profitable now though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 07:33 AM
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Most don’t pick chads in the first place. Have you seen some of the men these women get knocked up by?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 07:31 AM
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I’m from New York and idk what you’re talking about. Unless they got knocked up by a dude with money and put him on CS most single mothers are either living in poverty or working crazy long hours to support their kids. I volunteer at a program for “at risk” kids and a decent chunk of them are being raised by single mothers. Of those their moms are either CNAs or RNs working 60+ hours a week who barely spend time with their kids. Or minimum wage workers on welfare who can barely afford to get the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 07:29 AM
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Me, but not because they’re men I don’t like seeing non-confrontational sweet people taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 07:23 AM
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If this is true I’m honestly depressed for the world my little brothers are going to grow up into -_-
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 07:19 AM
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My mom has 3 kids(well I’m not a kid anymore but my siblings still are) and was able to get an attractive man who made more money than her. He also had kids and they’re in the same stage of their life. Same with my grandaunt her 2nd and current husband was handsome when she met him. She was a single mom but he was a single dad too. It honestly depends on how well the woman kept herself together and what pool she’s fishing in. What you said only applies if the woman let herself go and she’s going…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 07:16 AM
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People act differently in platonic relationships versus romantic or sexual ones. My image of my ex male best friend was basically shattered when I found out how he acted with girls he hooked up with. It taught me that you only see a part of a person and what side you see depends on your relationship dynamic. There’s no way else I could explain their behavior. The craziest dude like I said had a couple other girls he was sleeping with which I didn’t care about because I didn’t want to be exclusiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 06:07 AM
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Definitely true. I’m hopeful but not expectant though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 05:34 AM
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Not really. From talking to a lot of them(ones I’ve slept with and ones I just became acquainted with but didn’t sleep with) it becomes clear they have issues with women they need to work out. The ugly ones weren’t kissless virgins either though. The craziest dude I’ve met had other girls he could hook up with, he didn’t like them as much by his own admission but he still had options. Yet he went full clinger-stalker mode. I try to be conscious of the fact that not everyone is like me and not op…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 05:25 AM
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Fair enough, but these days idk lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 05:09 AM
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Aw man ok
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 01:54 AM
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Agree to disagree on that because all of the women in my family had terrible first marriages. My grandaunt and my mom have great second marriages though. My grandma was cheated on several times and she finally had enough when my grandad sired several oow children. My grandaunts first husband left her with the kids to be with another woman. Her second husband is a great man though. My great grandmothers husband was a piece of work. You get the picture though. If all men were great women wouldn’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 01:53 AM
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Couldn’t you just move it down?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 01:39 AM
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Oh I thought you meant you were deleting it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 01:29 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 01:26 AM
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🤗
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 01:04 AM
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Don’t know and don’t care. All ik is he’s not worth the hassle imo. He can do whatever he feels he needs to for his best interests. If it’d be averse to me I want no parts of it. Happy cake day btw!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:46 AM
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If girls reverse course they’d just be the ones getting played with no pay offs like their foremothers. That’s why girls started acting up in the first place. The dating game is a chicken and egg situation with neither side wanting to yield any ground and only wanting to do what’s best for themselves. Which is whatever but it makes it really annoying and complicated if you’re trying to genuinely date someone. So I don’t blame women for their reactions tbh. For me personally I’ve adopted the atti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:45 AM
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Even if a man doesn’t know what trp is he can have some trp beliefs. Some of the beliefs espoused there were present among facets of men long before reddit and the TRP forum existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:36 AM
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You’d be surprised. Men who were constantly rejected get a hard on for this kind of stuff. They’ll often have other women that they’re sleeping with in this period. They’ll play the long game though because they want to “hurt” women like women “hurt” them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:32 AM
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Aren’t sluts LVW? I’m confused on the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:30 AM
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It’s not even just that he will bail they’ll go psycho. I’ve slept with men of all different types of looks. It was only ever the very unattractive ones that did or attempted to do some crazy stuff to me(stalking, revenge porn and harassment) My assumption is that they have a scarcity mentality so they try to break women down to ensure that they still have a decent sex supply. I wouldn’t tolerate that behavior from a hot guy either but ime so far they haven’t done anything like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:22 AM
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It’s because ltr dating in the western world is a headache and it only pays off if you get certain things which more and more men are averse to providing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:15 AM
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I honestly couldn’t tell you. Ik she was one of the least religious girls in the group though. Half of them didn’t go to church but,except for her and another girl, that half still went to bible study or gospel club. I think she was expecting a lot out of the guy though because in all the time I knew her I don’t remember her being involved with another guy. So she presumably lost her virginity to him and thought he was going to be her unicorn and wife her up post grad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 04:38 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 04:31 PM
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The woman does want you to be yourself so she can weed you out or green light you based on truths about you. If your aim is to bag as many women as possible this may be a con, women aren’t lying when they say this though it just doesn’t necessarily serve the male imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 04:18 PM
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I’m not a guy but I was friends with some girls in college who did this. Every other Sunday they’d go over and cook and clean for the guys they liked/were in fwb with. It always boggled my mind. Especially watching the one I lived with do this because she was clearly bothered by the lack of title but wouldn’t cut him off, since he was the only Igbo Nigerian boy studying stem at our school that showed some interest in her. My friend and I also did this for her boyfriend but he was really depresse…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 04:02 PM
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Not sure on google, but there’s an app called Textfree that provides fake phone numbers.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/12/19 03:38 PM
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Lead in what way? He can be dependable and cherish her which seems to be what they’re looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 02:12 PM
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Then you’ve never dated a truly crazy woman. They’ll invent their own reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 02:10 PM
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That’s the bar to pass for sex. Most men’s standards aren’t that low for ltr or marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 04:37 AM
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If the butt is natural, perky and in proportion with her thighs yes. Otherwise no.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 02:44 AM
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Have you ever had a girl slash your tires, set you up to be attacked or murdered, secretly recorded interactions between the two of you to blackmail you, steak your used condoms or anything along those lines?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 02:41 AM
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Why wouldn’t s servile man make a woman happy? They’re obviously not happy with men who aren’t that way so they might as well try something new.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 02:39 AM
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Once you get them on a sleep schedule sure. It also depends on the temperament of the baby. I was a fairly easy baby and my parents had some free time to do whatever. With my brother though you’d be lucky if you even had time to pee because he was so fussy. Also they get older the game changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 02:31 AM
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Oh no, brain fart moment lol. Nice catch I’ll fix it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 10:17 PM
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I’m hecka paranoid about getting an std or Sti so I always get tested with new partners and use protection. If they don’t want to get tested or show me the results they have something and it’s an automatic next.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 03:43 AM
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Maybe during the baby rabies phase but if you make it out of that phase then you’re in the clear
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 11:40 PM
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Depending on what the woman wants that’s not a loss. It’s better to have no partner than once you’re miserable with .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 11:38 PM
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I see what you did there 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 10:51 PM
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Seriously lol. I usually try urban dictionary but they don’t always have the latest reddit lingo
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 10:51 PM
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-bad hygiene -pedophile/rapist -doesn’t go down -if he’s into anal or scat -racial fetishist -If he’s a race I don’t like -doesn’t use condoms -refuses to get std test and show me results -misogynist All sexual dealbreakers
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 10:46 PM
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Doesn’t seem like it which is why I asked lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 10:08 PM
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What’s your definition of entitlement?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 09:34 PM
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I didn’t take it personal. I took it as you judging women who have men pay for them and being snarky about it. I don’t want to engage with that. If you don’t get it don’t worry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 08:45 PM
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Why would she do that instead of just finding a man who gives her what she wants? Probably because you’re the ones who’s paying a guy to touch it lol. Anyways if you want to actually discuss this without snark I’ll oblige otherwise have a great one(:
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 08:40 PM
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It doesn’t matter how rare they are. What matters is how many people they can kill before getting caught. Some woman have and then they got killed by the dude. There was a case a few months back of a guy who used a dating app to find women to kill. I’ll put a link to the news story if you want to read more about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 08:20 PM
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More do than you think. Some people just don’t want to. There’s a market for everyone you just have to find it and figure out how to get the most out of your lane.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 08:18 PM
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That would then make men depraved tricks if you want to think about it in those terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 08:17 PM
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He doesn’t have to. No one has to do anything they don’t want to when it comes to dating. If he’s broke he’s probs not what an FDS woman is looking for. Instead of feeling pressured to spend money, he can move on to a woman who’s ok with cheap dates or who may even pay for him. The FDS woman can move on to a man who is what she wants as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 08:15 PM
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A lot of serial killers are “nice” and very charming. That’s how they get their victims to trust them. You find out later that they’re a psycho and by then it might be too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 08:13 PM
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You think you’re above average or below?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 07:26 AM
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The shade 🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 08:02 PM
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Female. They’re ok depending on the situation sometimes it makes more sense for the dad to stay home.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 07:59 PM
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Idk all I can think is that Jonah looks like Seth’s Chubby little brother lol. https://images.app.goo.gl/Rc6azbzx42d4kCHf7 I think I see what you’re saying though. Average for American guy would be a dude who’s decent height, only slightly overweight etc below average is Fat and on the shorter side. Mild imperfections vs noticeable ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 07:54 PM
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So fat Jonah hill? My barometer for men must’ve be way off because I don’t notice that big of an attractiveness gap between him and Seth Rogan. Facially they’re on the same level but Seth had a marginally better body.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 07:12 PM
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So what is an average or below average guy? Can you give some examples? Some of the guys on true rate me are above average but most aren’t. They look like everyday guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:50 PM
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Look at his flair. Why’re you arguing with this dude lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 04:02 PM
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I love how you ignore the fact that I said you can find countless videos of men doing nothing when women are attacked. Idk how that’s knighting when we were the ones attacked. Anyway, gone are the days where people jump into fights to help strangers. That’s rare. Most people call the police from safety, if even that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 01:25 PM
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That’s always part of the convo pre-sex. We get tested together and share results. Then I inform then that I don’t use hormonal birth control because it hasn’t worked for me in the past. I also let them know if something happens with the condom I’d probably have the baby and give them up for adoption since I’m on the fence about abortions when it comes to myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:37 AM
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My best friend had one and they screwed up. They left a piece inside and she got really sick. The procedure was already expensive because she didn’t have good insurance, then the extra hospital on top of that was a lot for her. We live in a liberal northeastern state too where abortion is accessible. So the fact that still happened and to someone so close to me was eye opening.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:02 AM
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Plan Bs effectiveness drops after the first day and is basically useless after the first 48. So if the woman thought she was in the clear then turns out she wasn’t she’s sol if she’s in a state with restrictive abortion laws and not enough money to go to another one. I linked 3 articles. 1st one is discussing states with restrictive abortion laws and other states attempting to move in that direction. They’re mainly in the south and Midwest. Second article discusses states with only one abortion …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 05:57 AM
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Cherry picked videos mean nothing to me. There’s also countless videos of men standing around doing nothing. Every time I’ve seen a woman attacked in real life all people did was record on their phone and/or call the police. Some would check on the woman after. Once I was helping a friend retrieve her son from her abusive boyfriends house and he went crazy trying to drag her out my car. I was holding onto her for dear life though so he couldn’t and then just started swinging wild. There was a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 04:30 AM
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That’s basically what happens. The most men do is call the police. At best people protect their families but they don’t offer strangers any protection beyond calling the cops. So men don’t deserve any more appreciation for this than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 08:52 PM
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Ops post is basically men wanting to be thanked for not being murderers and rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 07:17 PM
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Is something confusing you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 05:59 PM
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That’s the same thing as this argument though. Men want women to thank them from not being depraved. Like what??
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 01:55 PM
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They’re not widely available and effectiveness depends on the doctor
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 01:54 PM
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Depends on where you live tbh. In some states birth control and abortion aren’t efficiently accessible. Plus birth control isn’t 100% so if you figure out you’re in that unlucky margin or realize post conception that you messed up you better hope you live in the north or have enough money for a plane ticket and an abortion. Otherwise you’re going to have to have that baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 01:54 PM
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This happens even outside of families though women seem more willing and ready to help strange kids. At my volunteer job helping at risk youth most of the volunteers are women and teen girls. We had only 2 guys and they only did it because they had to for school and it showed. When I ask men why it’s always fear of stigma or they have a watch the world burn type of attitude prevent them from volunteering.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 01:51 PM
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Women would honestly probably just try and run away from men. Like the all women villages in Kenya. I have duel citizenship so I’d just leave the country. If the whole world became like this I’d be a misandrist serial killer before making my departure and I’d hope other women do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 01:34 PM
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Not genuinely. They’ll feel that way but be apprehensive about expressing it because they think it will hurt their chances with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 04:45 AM
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You’re assuming a lot there. In sex specific advice the opposite sex is irrelevant. Trp advice only explicitly benefits men and that’s ok because that’s their target audience. Men getting blue balls as a result of women following good advice is irrelevant. The aim is for the woman to protect herself and act in her best interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 04:42 AM
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Are your married friends in poly or open relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 04:32 AM
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What about it? She seems like a radfem. Nothing about the post history would make my mind jump to the depraved place exparadoxes’ did.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 04:16 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 04:12 AM
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Wth? Why immediately jump to incestuous, pedophilic rape, instead of assuming op is being facetious in response to the ridiculous post they linked?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 04:07 AM
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I don’t think I’ll ever get over them. Some aspects of male sexuality are too much for me and there’s a lot of risks that I don’t want to take. Everything you do has positive and negative consequences. Turning some men off is a small price to pay in my eyes. In the case of the vegan though they have moral hangups against eating meat. So they’d find the act of it disgusting and depraved yet still encourage their partner to do it. That goes back to what I said about it not seeming right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 07:53 PM
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Some of them are, of the 4 I follow their ages are (19,20,23 &28) the others I don’t follow are a mix some are older women like you said some are younger women below 25. If you’re consciously avoiding it that means it became a turn off. Also what good is it to men if women are turned on by something but refusing to act on it. It’s the same result in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 07:44 PM
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I don’t think so. I mean how young? The new wave ones on ig and stuff are young themselves. In their 20s. I’m young too I hung around enough guys to see what they do and I avoid it and pass along info.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 02:30 PM
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No they don’t. I’m 99% sure they’re the ones writing the blogs, articles and books teaching women how to avoid that type,
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 02:10 PM
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Tell that to my neighbors. Some girl he did this too busted up hid car and I’m pretty sure he didn’t have s black box so idk what he’s going to do. Vindictive women can be scary af. Anyway there’s women that react negatively in the beginning as well yet that doesn’t stop men. As I said women don’t like pedos but that doesn’t stop make child molesters from doing what they do. Men will just hide their character to seal the deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 02:08 PM
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Context is key go back and read that bit again with the explanations. If what you said was true ghosting and flaking on dates wouldn’t be viewed negatively. When you’re dating though there’s varying levels of commitment. You agree to either commit time, effort or sometimes exclusivity. Otherwise you’re not dating. It depends on the parameters the involved parties set. It makes perfect sense to me. Why is the cum so disgusting it can’t go into your mouth, but it’s supposed to be in mine? I’m supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 02:04 PM
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In what world lol? It is commitment. To what degree should ideally be determined by the people in the relationship via open communication. Is it str, ltr, super casual? Etc. Idk from seeing guys that have done it, it doesn’t seem that hard. More of a marginal difference than an exponential one. Maybe it’s just because I didn’t see the lead up to them becoming that way though. All they have to do is keep their lies straight long enough to string the girls along or find a new one when one starts c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 08:16 AM
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In a handful of cases I talk to the guy too if I know him personally and try to see if the stories line up. Otherwise I go by how plausible the woman’s story sounds and if the deets make sense. So far it has. Male sluts are manwhores. With herpes guy, and mr.predator what the girls said about them turned out to be true. According to mr.predator he didn’t lie because dating=/= girlfriend or guaranteed long term exclusivity. Imho, it was shady nonetheless. He is a serial liar and I’m pretty sure h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 07:54 AM
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Whenever I’ve heard women call a dude a fuck boy it’s always because there was some deception involved and then when confronted he had no remorse or guilt. Lying about commitments and relationship status is the most common. Lying about STDs is less common but I’ve seen that too unfortunately. The way I described them is accurate he sold bullshit to the only buyers. Naive girls with low self esteem and little to no relationship experience. Idk what he told the other 4 girls but he told my friend …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 07:17 AM
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No not really. There are men that can bag large varieties of women because they’re that good looking and suave. They’re truly high value men. They’re not conventionally attractive to the point where they’d have universal appeal. So they often have to specify their market by race, weight, age, hobbies etc to find girls that go for their look as well as working on their game. They all get called fuckboys too there’s no difference. An ex friend got played by a guy like this. I found him ugly and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 05:53 AM
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They have to operate in niches though so they’re not high value. They’re only high value to men who can’t get sex or anything at all from women. In the grand scheme of things they fall mid to low tier depending on what type of fuckboy they are. They’re all the same thing. All those types are accurately referred to as fuckboys because they have the same goals and motives. Nsa sex by any means necessary. I’ve met ugly fuckboys. They work hard at having good game and they know their audience. After…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 05:05 AM
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Are they really high value though if their game doesn’t work across the board? Not all fuckboys are chads and vice versa. My claim is that fuckboys aren’t high value because most can only get a part of the package with ease if even that. I’ve only met 2 who could get and seduce a variety of girls easily. The rest have to work really hard at it, I wouldn’t say they can get commitment at will either. A true high value man though is one who can get all types of women to acquiesce to his whims with …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 04:27 AM
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I’m referring to girls who sleep with fuckboys and girls who sleep with them and pedestalize them. These two types of women are a niche and only one of the two treats fuckboys like they’re gods among men. Yet all women are painted with the same brush. It’s like push over nice girls who are convinced all or most men love bitches because they witnessed a few high betas fawning over their rude girlfriends. Im aware women who give head are not a minority. I keep acknowledging that lol. Idk man. Irl …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 03:27 AM
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Sounds like you’re another man either speaking from sexual fomo or attributing the behaviors of a niche of women to all women. As I said to the other dude and to you in my comment before this, I don’t doubt the fact that there’s plenty of women who suck the dicks of men they care about. I’m just not into it. I grew up surrounded by guys who would expose and make find of girls sucking dick. I thought males would get better in adulthood but unfortunately that has not been the case from what I’ve w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 03:05 AM
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I’m so sorry your reading comprehension skills are sub par. The person I was responding to was asserting that women treat fuckboys better than all other men. Sucking dick was just one of many examples he used. I personally do not suck dick because it is degrading and they way I’ve heard men talk about it is enough to put me off on doing it. I’m sure other women do it for men they care for. However as far as pedestalizing and worshipping fuckboys go less than 50% of women do that. Which is what I…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 02:24 AM
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Out of 54 I can think of 10? That really struggle with severe famine and resource depletion. The rest have enough to get by.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 12:15 AM
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“Inadvertently” Confident self assured women do not consciously promote it. Vulnerable women, women with mental health problems and pick mes do until they learn and do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 12:13 AM
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Again the point flew over your head. The victims acceptance of the abuse doesn’t change the fact that abuse is occurring. The victims acceptance of the abuse doesn’t change the fact that abuse is occurring. I never said trp advocates PHYSICAL abuse. I used it as an example to show you how flawed you logic and thinking is. If I used actual trp tactics you’d just defend it with bs as per usual. Here’s another example. If I had a boyfriend that I cheated on and used for money but he accepted my bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 08:52 PM
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It’s pretty obvious what women mean when they say men dress like crap if not check the most recent thread. I don’t know too many men who care to iron their clothes or even check for stains and such outside of attending formal events. Much less buying and wearing clothes that are flattering and suit his body type and personal style. They don’t care to but for someone that is average or below clothes can make them or break you. It’s because a lot of these men are a hot mess express and are self aw…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 08:37 PM
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Expand on the over cleaning point if you don’t mind? They’re not superfluous. 1) these are basics any responsible well adjusted adult should have down. 2) many men complain about women not finding large swathes of men interesting or attractive consistently or at all. Op raised a fair point that many men really aren’t doing themselves any favors because of the aforementioned reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 08:08 PM
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The essence of your argument is that women’s standards are too high and they don’t reciprocate when in fact many women do all of the above and are raised from young to do so. Also the standards listed are quite low and if that’s a challenge for someone then that’s very telling of their character.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:57 PM
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Fair enough. There’s also a lot of bait and switch bums though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:52 PM
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It’s extremely relevant as it’s drawing a parallel. The victims acceptance of the abuse doesn’t change the fact that abuse is occurring. That is the point. Seems it flew over your head. Trp teaches lie, play mind games,manipulate and dehumanize women which is emotional abuse. They’re vulnerable. Normal everyday women do not knowingly condone this. Once they find out they respond negatively. Vulnerable women are the only ones who continue to reward bad behavior after they learn the truth of the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:49 PM
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*that meet basic standards of hygiene and decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:46 PM
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It is. The men that use it inadvertently admit it is. They all hate women and are liars and manipulators. It’s obvious they’re not using the tactics for benevolent reasons and that’s why they had to make up some bs about “amorality”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:46 PM
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Women also date and marry men who beat the crap out of them. Some people are mentally and emotionally damaged. Just because you got a vulnerable person to go along with your abuse doesn’t make it ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:41 PM
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You’re not objective and rational if you genuinely think murdering is a way to solve disagreements and manage your emotions. I hope you’re just trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:38 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:37 PM
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Not true. Women don’t reward goatfuckers and pedophiles but that doesn’t stop men from engaging in those maladaptive behaviors. Women react negatively to trp when they found out they’ve been played with yet that doesn’t stop men. Men will do whatever they want if they feel like doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:35 PM
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It’s because of their intentions. They’re vengeful and hateful. Very few are doing it to actually improve their lives just for the sake of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:29 PM
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👏👏👏👏 well said
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:27 PM
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Yet the ones men ltr are the ones that meet basic standards of decency and hygiene.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:23 PM
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They meet much more than the average man. Everything. Makes sense now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:23 PM
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I will never again take ppd men seriously when they say men aren’t dirty women’s standards are too high. Having a filthy house is disgusting and a health and safety hazard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:20 PM
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If you’re a fuckboy the women you sleep with are most likely sleeping with other men as well. With a poly girlfriend though you get both the perks of having a committed partner while also having sexual variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 04:06 PM
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If you date a poly girl. Then fuckboys are mid tier because they can get sex but that’s it. They’re higher value than men who can’t get anything but lower value than men who get everything. This just confirms my suspicions though. It’s only men with sexual fomo who view fuckboys as high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 03:59 PM
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Full package you get investment, love, reciprocity, partner etc. Instead of just sex. Yeah because men make no sense lol. No offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 03:21 PM
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That’s what I mean. Even ugly fat women have men willing to bankroll them, sleep with them, pay for nasty stuff from them etc. So they’d be high value by that logic. If you’re saying it’s comparative then wouldn’t fuckboys be low value when compared to men who can get everything from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 03:13 PM
2

So then this means there are no low value women because for every woman that wants sex or wants to sell her excretions there’s takers. You realize how crazy that logic is??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:55 PM
2

Well then it’s a country problem not a continental problem, Namibia, Ghana and Nigeria handle themselves much more efficiently than Somalia or the Congo. They don’t have the same problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:52 PM
2

No they don’t. The entire continent of Africa has less people on it than the individual country of China. Same with India. Plus the numbers will start dropping as they become more developed as is the case with everywhere. Nvm you’re Brazilian that explains everything lol. Carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 01:30 PM
2

So that means every woman and everything about her is high value. There are women who can and so sell their bath water, dirty underwear and excretions. All that is high value according to your logic because they traded that dirty stuff for what they wanted. Lmfaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 12:39 PM
1

Only true if the guys a quick shot. If you climax from cunnilingus and are satisfied with a little pounding but he needs more then you can just leave when you’re good to go before he’s come. I’ve done it a few times. Occasionally out of pettiness lol. The great thing is you feel no guilt, you owe them nothing, there’s no expectations. LTRs you have to treat with more care.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 12:37 PM
1

Yes. 30%.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 12:30 PM
2

I guess I’m the weird one then. I look for guys with good oral skills, that’s what gets me off. Piv doesn’t do anything for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 12:29 PM
1

Obtuse? Which is why I asked you to clarify what you meant by shit personality that’s vague. Shit as in he gives serial killer vibes? He’s boring? He’s an asshole? All of those are shit personality traits. You can avoid being slut shamed if you’re low key and sleep with men who don’t kiss and tell. Like I said there’s a difference between actively disliking a guy and just not caring about him either way. You asserted that women have to like the guy and have positive emotions towards him. That’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 12:27 PM
2

False. This only applies if he’s getting delulus who think they can change him. For the vast majority of women it doesn’t work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 12:22 PM
-1

False.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 12:21 PM
1

Even men find them degrading. They like receiving them though so they don’t say anything to girls they’re involved with. If you’re lucky enough to be a fly on the wall though you find out the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 12:21 PM
0

Tl;Dr please I don’t suck dick full stop. I’ve never done it in a casual relationship and i don’t think I want a husband so there’s that. 90% of women is way too high. It’s more like 30% and that’s being generous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 12:20 PM
1

?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 12:17 PM
1

Shit personality in what sense? He’s horrendous and irritating or just boring and bland? If it’s something similar to the latter I think it’d be pretty equal across the sexes if it’s the former I’ll concede that more men will go for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:20 AM
1

Many modern women are willing to kiss(or ride would be more appropriate) a few duds before they find Mr.unicorn dick. It’s rare if they outright loathe and despise the guy. Sleeping with guys they simply feel neutral towards isn’t that rare though. It’s fairly common actually. He just has to be goodlooking enough and there at the right time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:05 AM
0

Sucking dick is gross and low-key degrading. As I said before there’s only one category of women that do the above and it seems they’re the only type men are focusing on. The “carrot and stick” types the ones who let themselves get played, they pedestalize fuckboys thinking if they’re nice enough, good enough and their pussy game is on point he’ll change his ways and come around. They’re the female equivalent of beta orbiters. The rest of women fall into 2 categories. They either avoid him compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:02 AM
4

I was just on a thread where men were trying to argue that men want to be human dildos and that being a Fuckboy is the best thing for a man. For me personally, I know this isn’t true from interacting with men who’ve lived that lifestyle. However you can see why the stereotype is what it is though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 05:48 AM
0

I’ve had the opposite experience. They do. Which is what a lot of chadfishing experiments have shown. It’s why “hatefucking” is a thing. The woman does not have to like the guy. His sex game just has to be on point or at the very least she has to think that’s the case. Hamstering how? Everyone knows ONS are shallow. You’re selecting based on looks at the least as well chemistry and ensuring they’re not a serial killer at best. Your experience may be due to the fact that most men aren’t that good…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 05:45 AM
2

It’s not even a problem there because the infant mortality rate is so high.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 05:35 AM
6

Well then society will collapse and either restart or fade away. I feel bad for the kids that will have to suffer but ultimately who cares? Nothing lasts forever. Also side note if you can’t get motivated for your own sake and need sex as a motivation to make something of yourself then that’s really sad. What’s the point of even living then?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 05:31 AM
3

This is so off-base. Women say it because it’s the truth. If you’re looking for sex and sex only a fuckboy is the way to go. As long as he’s malleable and knows how to please a woman. It’s a convenient label to distinguish what men are good for what roles. Some men are good at multiple, others only one, and some none at all. It’s just like how men have their labels for women depending on what she provides(“slut” “wife material” etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 05:25 AM
1

“Like” in what sense. All a guy needs is to be seen as sexually viable. If he’s not that attractive and you don’t like him that much but you’re horny and don’t want to masturbate you do doggy or reverse cowgirl and fantasize about someone attractive meet your needs and bounce.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 05:20 AM
2

That’s a question for them, and I don’t give them what they want unless they give me what I want. Even then it depends on my mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 04:55 AM
4

Exactly. These men sound like they’re talking from a scarcity mentality. They don’t get sex often so they think sex of any kind is good. When they’re actually in this position though they start singing a different tune.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 04:46 AM
2

Only if the woman is emotionally invested or is too passive to speak up about what she wants. For me personally I make sure I communicate what I want and put myself in the position to receive it. If not I send him off or head out. This has caused some drama but such is life. I never said or alluded that a fuckboy is a male prostitute. Their dick is free for one so idk where you got that from lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 03:46 AM
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As I told the other guy men are all for it until it actually happens to them. This means being ok with blue balls and always getting her off first or only. What guys actually want is to be a low maintenance fwb. They don’t like being dildos but men who can’t become either think they would like being dildos because of some weird sexual fomo.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 03:26 AM
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It’s not frustration actions speak louder than words. My male partners are always more satisfied when I cared about them beyond just fulfilling my own pleasure because I reciprocated more and cared about them having fun too. A woman needs to care about a man to at least this degree for it to work. For some men they need a little more than this. I have some male friends who could be classed as fuckboys as well, and they always complain when they end up sleeping with women who dgaf about them that…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 03:24 AM
3

Men like this only check off quantity though. Unless you’re very physically attractive, charming and alluring enough to overcome the fuckboy stigma you’ll have to forego quality to bump up quantity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 03:14 AM
3

Ik, all I’m saying is be careful what you wish for. These relationships are only satisfying for men if the woman cares about them to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 03:12 AM
4

So quantity is all that matters for men and that’s enough for a man to be deemed “high value”?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 03:09 AM
1

You asserting that fuckboys aren’t low value is where we disagree. Go ahead and be a fuckboy if you want but it doesn’t change the fact that you’d be low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 03:08 AM
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I’m aware I’ve offended a couple doing so. What it taught me is that men don’t actually want to be human dildos. They want to experience as many positives of being with a woman as possible without any commitment or work. They only love it if it they get off too. Unless they’re heavy into femdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 03:06 AM
5

Sounds like a cop out. They’re not always that different and sometimes there’s overlap. With the exception of women who think the can change and rehabilitate fuckboys, women view fuckboys as low value. They either avoid them completely or just use them as a dildo while they look for a man that has more substance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:59 AM
8

Nah. Show up get my pleasure only and leave without gaf whether he got off or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:58 AM
7

Well then good luck. IME men want to be one until you actually treat them like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:55 AM
8

Are the women you choose to use as human flesh lights higher value than the women you’d ltr? C’mon now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:53 AM
5

Only deluded women who think they can change the guy and women who just want something easy and casual go for fuckboys. All other women screen for and try to avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:52 AM
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They are low value. How is being a human sex toy not low value? You’re just barely one step above a dildo.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:51 AM
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Fair enough. I figured it just happened because sex wasn’t super important or necessary for those couples to show they care and love each other. They do so in other ways. I can see why it would look like loss of love to some people though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:00 PM
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Idk if I can adequately explain it but of the older couples I know there’s some where it’s clear they’re not getting it on and others where you can tell they still are but they hold back because of kids, time etc like you said. The latter still kiss, hug and are affectionate in “publicly appropriate” ways they’re still sappy and moon-eyed for each other but they’re just not as explicit about expressing it when there’s company or minors around. The ones I was referring to don’t have that lovey-mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 04:10 PM
2

So then it’s not that she doesn’t love you/women don’t love anymore it’s that the love is different and unsatisfying? How different is it besides sex? Familial, platonic and romantic love overlap in a lot of ways the former 2 just aren’t sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 03:33 PM
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I can’t argue your experiences. From what I’ve seen. I honestly don’t think that’s true. I’ve seen couples where their physical attraction to each other has waned and faded but they still treat each other well. It’s typically married people with kids but they have a family and their love for each other changed and evolved into something that’s not as dependent on sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 03:28 PM
8

Says who? She can still love you she just won’t lust after you. That’s what men want though and why they’re upset with the ways women love most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 03:20 PM
1

🤗
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 08:36 PM
5

Yes you can. It’s not 100% but there’s ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 08:06 PM
8

You can figure that out without sleeping with the guy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 06:36 PM
3

For strs this makes sense as long as you’ve vetted him enough to make sure he’s not a serial killer or crazy. For LTRs though this is a bad strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 06:28 PM
1

Typically not. They like to hoe around when they’re young then look for a woman with a fairly low body count to settle down with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 06:22 PM
1

What is this in regards to? LTRs?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 06:20 PM
3

It probably is impossible or close to it for some people. They should be careful not to project that onto others though. Some people can do it with ease, others will struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 08:16 PM
2

I mostly see stuff about how to go from fwb or booty call to relationship targeted at women. It’s mainly women I see complaining about getting used for sex. When cheaters rationalize their behavior I often see female cheaters give the reason that they fell out of love with their current so and into love with the ap. While male cheaters claim they’re compartmentalizing the relationship. They love their wife and the side woman/women are only for sex. women release bonding hormones post orgasm whil…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 07:55 PM
1

The point of that anecdote was to show that I often guess correctly. Some people are better at deciphering certain things than others. Even some trans celebrities before I knew they were trans I had an inkling. Some of them are considered passing well by others. There’s only one trans woman I can think of that I can honestly say I would’ve never guessed. 8/10 though I figure it out whether I’m told or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 07:32 PM
2

I think it’s easier for men to do this than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 07:17 PM
0

Those guys probably have kids too, they just don’t have custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 07:12 PM
1

Im not a man, I’m a woman. Some people are more perceptive about certain things than others. The other night I was out with some friends at a lgbt night club. On certain event nights straight people go as well. My friend hit if off with a girl. I thought she and her friend were trans but didn’t say anything because I didn’t want to be rude. It’s not my place to clock someone. Later on in the night though something happened that confirmed my suspicion. This movie was before my time so I’ll just t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 07:04 PM
1

Her voice and hips are kind of a giveaway. If I saw her on the street I’d assume she was trans or a “manly” woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 03:52 PM
1

Agreed. He seems upset that’s she’s mad at him on top of whatever she told people, so this could be looked at as her helping him cut his losses.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:03 PM
2

If she told people not to talk to him that’s childish but anyone with common sense would know to make their own decision. The only negative I could see coming from this is him losing the opportunity to sleep with girls looking for LTR. Not much of a loss though if he doesn’t want to be in a situation like this again. On the bright side any girls looking for casual nsa would green light him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 05:51 PM
5

What exactly did she do? From what I gathered she told the other girls in your circle that you’re just looking for sex. Did she do anything beyond that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 07:07 PM
1

At the end of the day. The only person you can control is yourself. I don’t know what a guys intentions are when he engages with me, I can’t make them be upfront I have no control over them. I can control myself and my actions though so now I make it a point to communicate what I want. I’d advise you to do the same it will make things easier for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 07:04 PM
3

Or the end of humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:58 PM
3

Piggy backing off your black models example. They couldn’t make themselves whiter and lighter so instead they made their own spaces to show that there is a demand for them and they have value. They didn’t get invited to the party so they through their own. For some women it’s more so having inedible slop that makes you sick vs nothing. Sometimes the nothing is better which is what I’ve learned through life. Sex isn’t that relevant, most women won’t orgasm from vaginal sex alone. That’s what most…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 09:43 PM
2

Maybe I can’t say that for certain though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 08:32 PM
3

You could say the same about women then. They were born the way they were and there’s nothing they can do if their feelings aren’t reciprocated. People used to say that all the time to black models. At least the female ones so they made their own way. Other black women supported myself included and the industry is starting to respond. In the case of dating, you either make yourself more attractive to get who/what you want or you now out and give up or find a replacement for that type of happines…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 08:32 PM
4

One where they hate on attractive people. My moms first nursing job the hr and supervisors were bitter old women who didn’t like pretty young women so everyone that worked there would advise potential new hires to downplay their attractiveness. So show up in neat interview clothes but don’t do your makeup or wear jewelry. HR there preferred to hire women who weren’t attractive. There was one woman there who was 10/10 pretty even without makeup and she got bullied relentlessly until she used her …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 08:15 PM
3

It depends on what workplace and who’s in charge. Sometimes being attractive is detrimental other times is beneficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 08:08 PM
3

/s? May be funny to you but it sucks it you never get off and your feelings aren’t reciprocated. All in all though it’s the responsibility of the person who put themselves in that position to get themselves out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 08:04 PM
7

Not really. Unless you count dealing with my students parents? My looks work against me tbh because I look young and when I get dolled up the moms gossip about me. When I look like a bum though they’re nice. My weekend job I don’t directly deal with customers. So no one really sees me besides my coworkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 07:50 PM
7

It depends on what job and whether or not looks are seriously important. If looks don’t matter or aren’t an integral part of the job then no, skills matter more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 07:43 PM
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You’d be stuck in the same position just with no sex on top of no relationship. Whether or not that bothers a woman depends on how much she values sex. For me personally, I’d be in the same position. I don’t care about sex that much and only do it to make my partner happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 07:37 PM
12

A lot don’t. Or they just tolerate it to have some time with a guy they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 06:09 PM
1

Oh ok thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:56 PM
1

Agree to disagree. Reciprocity is applicable in pretty much every scenario. Especially in the dating scene. You can’t call out one side without calling out the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:56 PM
1

I’m not arguing anything. I’m simply stating everything will be reciprocated. As it should be. Side note: how do you bold text on reddit? Can you do it on mobile or just desktop?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:51 PM
1

Not feelings. Just balancing. No one wants to be the recipient of lopsided dislike and the animosity that’s bred from that. It’s the same reason men feel the need to balance things by calling out women and using women’s logic against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 12:07 PM
1

I read that “tens” in a different context my apologies. Even still though, them being beautiful doesn’t mean they can’t struggle to lock down a high caliber man. If men like that aren’t ready to settle down they won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:48 AM
1

That’s a 10/10. Her friends could be 6-8 out of ten. On a ten scale 5 would most likely be average. So 6-8 is good looking enough to be considered above average, but not so good looking that you wouldn’t struggle to find commitment from a quality guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:24 AM
3

Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:21 AM
0

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:14 AM
2

I'm not sure how popular anal and sumata are and even with bj's and handjobs thrown in the mix. Some men would still consider that db because it's not the same to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 03:52 AM
2

That’s the solution I’ve used before.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 07:43 PM
4

Won’t fix the tightness lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 07:42 PM
4

For me it would be. The doors literally close when I’m not aroused. I’d do something else to get my partner off though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 05:58 PM
8

It’s because you’ll know. She’ll probably be dry and painfully tight. Won’t be enjoyable for either in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 05:55 PM
4

This was definitely true in my case and it’s something I had to and continue to work on
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 04:38 PM
26

Lmfaooo where are his priorities 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/19 10:03 PM
1

Women for the most part still respect and are kind to men they don't find attractive. Yet we get lambasted for it and are told we're leading men on.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/19 09:12 AM
1

He was also her highschool boyfriend and probably the only man she could get to wife her without controlling her.
/r/BlackPillScience13/09/19 02:58 PM
1

Well it depends on how well they vet the woman and what kind of woman they pick.
/r/BlackPillScience22/08/19 10:49 PM
1

With stats you have to put them into context to really understand them. I’m assuming you’re referring to the studies based on data from white saturated dating site(like OkCupid, Tinder etc)? Any black woman that goes on them is obviously open to or specifically looking for white men. That’s not an accurate reflection of the black female population at large. Actually talking to ados and non-ados black women has also impacted my opinion. It’s a very specific type that want white men. Most fall int…
/r/BlackPillScience02/08/19 02:25 PM
2

Okcupid is a mainstream/white dating site so black people on there could be more receptive to dating white than the general black population. Which could explain the discrepancy.
/r/BlackPillScience02/08/19 02:15 PM
1

Ok? You’re entitled to your opinion.
/r/BlackPillScience02/08/19 02:07 PM
1

They can be ugly all they want but that doesn’t negate the fact that they don’t really need men outside of basic reproduction.
/r/BlackPillScience03/06/19 06:12 PM
1

You don’t need any of that for basic survival. Ask the women living off grid. Seems like you’re projecting your passive aggressiveness onto me.
/r/BlackPillScience03/06/19 06:09 PM
1

Don’t get mad at me when you’re the one that used that subpar example. I don’t know if every rich woman has kids. However I do know that the ones who you tried and failed to used as a bolster point have them. Women don’t need men in the ways men think we do. They’re needed for natural reproduction but everything else is dependent on the individual woman’s abilities.
/r/BlackPillScience03/06/19 06:01 PM
1

You were trying to use that as an example to bolster your point about the findings of this study being false. So I pointed out how it actually supports the study since most of those women are/were married or at the very least have kids. Reality tv shows are the best examples to use anyway though.
/r/BlackPillScience03/06/19 05:52 PM
1

That’s assuming that the woman even wants sex though. There’s asexual women, women who are sexually traumatized, women with low libidos, and women who just are not interested in having sex for cultural or personal reasons who would all opt for maintaining their virginity.
/r/BlackPillScience03/06/19 05:38 PM
6

It has virtually nothing to do with ego and almost everything to do with fear-mongering. We’re told from cradle to grave not to bring one of them home because they could be secretly racist, they’re just fetishizing, they want to enact some master slave dynamics, you’re a race traitor, bedwench etc etc.
/r/BlackPillScience03/06/19 05:26 PM
1

I don’t think black women put that much value in white mens genetics. White men age poorly, being in an interracial relationship with a white person can be tedious and being a mother to a half black half white child presents unique challenges that many black women don’t want to deal with. With all this in mind it makes complete sense why black women would need the extra financial incentive to consider dating a white man.
/r/BlackPillScience03/06/19 05:23 PM
2

The women on real housewives franchises all have children and most of them are married. . .
/r/BlackPillScience03/06/19 05:14 PM
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