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Debateyouarenumber2/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:03 PM
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I don't see anything here that needs to be rebutted
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 07:25 PM
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You've taken Intro Sociology congrats
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 07:13 PM
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And there will also always be murder, and yet we still work to stop it. You have an absolute loser mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 07:09 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunburst_(community) The Sunburst Community is one of hundreds of communes that have operated successfully inside the United States since the 1960s or earlier. Some communes have been in operation since the turn of the century. American Amish have been successfully operating communal living schemes since the 1840s. When someone says "nobody likes X" when they mean to say "I don't like X", it's a sign that they haven't quite made it to adulthood yet...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:06 PM
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If you are defending women who shirk paternity tests, you want men to have paternity fraud committed against them. End of discussion. Anything else is manipulation and dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:51 AM
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I will speak I whatever fucking tone I want, thank you. Have a nice day :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:41 AM
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You want men to be subjected to paternity fraud. Honestly, monserous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:33 AM
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I'm an artist, a critique is not supposed to be negative.It is supposed to be constructive. You tear it down and build it better. You chose to tear it down. You are not offering any way of building it better. Let's imagine that I sat down to watch a preview of a professional play, and there was one person who hadn't bothered to learn their lines and this person would start fights with people when they called them out for this. My critique of the play: fire that actor. Is that not constructive? Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:28 AM
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You haven't really justified why any of these things are a direct result of MeToo. You're just saying "feminism changed with MeToo" (which you also haven't justified in any meaningful way) and things have become worse for women and feminists in some ways. It's like that argument that women are less happy than they were in the past, they have more rights now, therefore women are happier with less rights. You actually need to show one caused the other. This is 100% a fair critique of my analysis. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:08 AM
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The fact that this is an argument to you and not a discussion into where things went wrong, is where you went wrong. If you're afraid of arguments you should stay away from politics. You are angry at people who feel victimized by the system right now. No. I am angry at people whose selfishness has gotten in the way of the Left for the past decade, and caused every single person to become less free. I am angry at the people who are incapable of talking about anything except themselves. You are te…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:54 AM
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I know what the words I use mean. I'm not sure you do lol IDGAF if you agree with him I understand that those are your feelings, but definitionally, if I endorse a summary of my argument that means it is not a strawman or a steelman. It is a summary of my argument. You know it is, because I say so, and it's my fucking argument. you literally blamed women talking about our experiences with sexual assault and harassment for men hating us and trying to take away our rights. When. The fuck. Did I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:44 AM
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Okay, i have a new question. Why aren't you aiming this incredible amount of energy towards the people who are radicalized on the side of the rapists?? Like on r/changemyview? <honest, no sour intent> Because these people cannot be convinced. There is no reason to engage with Right wingers, they don't care about truth. The only thing to do is beat them. And beating them will be impossible if we don't have every faction of the Left in line and working at full capacity. Yeah, there are bad apples …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:27 AM
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First, I don't believe that any honest person can say that I'm uncomfortable talking about sexual assault. It would be more accurate to say I make other people uncomfortable with my willingness to talk about it frankly. Most men treat the issue with kid gloves, I don't feel the need to do that 1. Because sensitivity gets in the way of the truth and 2. Because I myself am a survivor of sexual assault and childhood sexual trauma and if I can put my feelings aside so can other people. I am trying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 12:32 AM
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Oh okay, so you go around on the internet and try to convince foreigners that they should elect a Pedophile President. That's much less worrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 12:04 AM
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1/6 women in America will be raped in their lifetimes So 83% of women will never be raped. 1 in 5 men suffer from domestic violence, so should men say that it is unsafe for them to date women? Or would that be a bit silly, given that 80% don't have that problem? women earn 82 cents on the dollar compared with men Why is that? Edit: She didn't respond because she knows her argument is bullshit. Women make less on average because they choose to go into lower paying fields. Men go into fields that …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 12:03 AM
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You support our Pedophile President. That's what you call revealed preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 11:53 PM
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Yeah Bill Clinton's also a rapist, thank God that guy isn't the President anymore. You support child molestation, and that stench will follow you forever. Edit: Hey btw, here's a tape of Epstein saying Bill Clinton and Donald Trump use the same tactics to con people and fuck them over. https://youtube.com/shorts/kHGTjJqTji4?si=5jAj-_-VH51WJCNP
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 11:48 PM
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That's not true, at least from my experience. I'm a cisgendered leftist man and most of my friends are white, straight lib or leftist men, and all or them are down with nonbinary people and trans people. They may not be 100% versed in the theory and don't always use the right words, but they are generally sympathetic. What they don't like is having anger directed at them because of how they were born, or people trying to lump them in with rapists simply because of their sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 11:31 PM
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Okay but right now, even cis gendered men who are left or liberal are skeptical of Feminism. I don't care at all about recruiting moderates and conservatives, I want to outplay them. Feminism is not gonna be able to do that of they're alienating even the people who should be natural allies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 11:23 PM
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Thanks for giving me an opportunity to spread the Trump/Epstein stuff, I fucking love doing this. Jeffrey Esptein says he was Trump's closest friend for ten years: https://youtu.be/9VDK5ttnzz4?si=o6GvOyNOw1W1a9r- Trump is asked about document declassification. 9/11? Yes. JFK? Yes, and did already. Epstein? That one, not so much, because you could hurt people's lives: https://youtube.com/shorts/ZJorAVgHy7Y?si=6t0DqOJl-uLLqUye Trump calls Epstein a "terrific guy" who "likes women, and some of thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 10:56 PM
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The recruiting tactics for extremist groups of any kind always follow the same pattern - identify the outcasts of society, radicalize them by personalizing and polarizing a target that is to blame for their unique struggle, mobilize them, provide an outlet for their anger, direct them to self-identify within said in-group, and focus that anger at a culprit, who is blamed for the struggle. I would use the word radical rather than extremist, but yes I would basically agree that this is correct. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 10:37 PM
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The male crew members on House of Cards torpedoed their own jobs to get him to stop grabbing their dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 10:17 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 10:15 PM
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Feminists are just utterly incapable of engaging like a grown up, it's wild. I did not call in to question any of your friend's stories. It sounds like you have an unusual friend group though, because the people in your circle have rate of sexual assault much higher than the national average.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 10:05 PM
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Yeah fair enough, it was the first one to mind who wasn't convicted of anything. Aziz Ansari as well. Had people trying to blacklist him even though the accusation literally described him respecting consent. Also, Kevin Spacey did that shit, come on man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 09:58 PM
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"centering the needs and wants" of women, in a movement for women, "alienates the majority of the population" then people are too stupid to be reasoned with anyway. There's zero reason why a movement called feminism should have to spend a single millisecond centering men. I never said women shouldn't be centered, I said sexual assault shouldn't be centered. This is a strawman. Edit: And are you seriously going to pretend you don't see purity culture in Feminism? I don't believe anyone can say th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 09:54 PM
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It is not a strawman it is an accurate summary of my argument which I endorse. Also, you mean steelman, and it's not that either lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 09:50 PM
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100% correct. I would also encourage people to remember what Saul Alinsky said about demonstrations and group size and how to demonstrate power: Eyes, Ears, and Nose. If you have a big group, parade in the street and let them see your power with their eyes. If you have a medium group, call and write emails, let them hear your power. If you have a small group, rub shit on everything, make them smell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 09:36 PM
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And yet here you are defending sexual predators and are mad when they get called out. When. THE FUCK. Did I do that? How fucking dare you? You are scum and I am not going to engage with you any further.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 09:31 PM
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Do you believe that defamation should have consequences? Edit: No answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 09:29 PM
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Dude. You know you can focus on multiple things at the same time? The left is the ONLY side concerned with what you are concerned about. These conversations are already happening and have been for years. The right wants to make it worse. Yeah, I'm a leftist and my post says that. It just sounds like you want women to shut up and take being sexually assaulted like before. You don't have anything to rebut my argument so you throw out accusations. That's one of the problems with modern Feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 09:28 PM
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TERFS GTFO
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 09:26 PM
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Condescending to people is definitely helping your brand problem lol Just to be clear, I am to the left of Kamala. I voted and volunteered for Kamala. I'm asking you to try to understand the mindset of the median male voter. Are you capable of empathizing with men at all, or have you completely killed that part of yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 09:24 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 09:22 PM
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Louis CK literally admitted to doing exactly what he was accused of doing lmao. I literally said that. Why does is matter if he was convicted or not You said that you're okay with innocent people having their lives ruined. You said those people are convicted of rape and sexual assault. I said Louis CK wasn't convicted of anything. Try to keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 09:20 PM
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I see no reason to respond, this statement is damaging enough to Feminism as is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 09:16 PM
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Nobody asked you to share your sexual fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 09:15 PM
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Let's frame this as a question of Feminism either looking inward or looking outward. Feminists can focus on issues that ONLY affect women and maintain their current size and power under best circumstances, but probably continue to lose ground. Or they could find ways that their interests are intertwined with the interests of others and grow their power. If you are just a Feminist because you love talking about yourself the former is probably preferable, but you'll get less done. If you are actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 09:14 PM
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That is not supported by statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 09:06 PM
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I question some of the details in here, but I'm gonna engage as if this is all true. You are addressing a well documented phenomenon in business post-Me Too. I also do this if I'm being honest with you, to a lesser degree. I limit the amount of time I spend in private with female colleagues. In an environment where accusations from women are automatically believed, this is the only rational response, and women are ultimately the victims because they lose opportunities for promotion and networkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 09:03 PM
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We are talking about literal convicted rapists and because I say “yeah, there will be false accusations just like with all crimes but we still prosecute criminals” you claim I’m PLANNING to victimize men. No, we're not. Plenty of men have had their lives ruined by accusations without a shred of evidence being presented. Loosening standards for non-criminal rape and SA investigations was one of the central elements of the Me Too period. Kind of a bad example because he actually did that shit, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:42 PM
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Women also get criminalized for illegal drugs??? Yes. Bodily autonomy affects everyone, which is why it is a strategically superior framing to "women's reproductive rights". Assisted suicide is controversial on both sides for obvious reasons. That's not really a feminist issue anyways so why would feminists focus on it. In our current world, they wouldn't. I was asked to propose a hypothetical version of Feminism that would be more in line with what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:36 PM
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It is currently one of the central planks. I am advocating for that to change. You are pointing out that I'm advocating for that to change. But I'm the stupid one, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:34 PM
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Men are not free to smoke, inject, or snort any substance they want. They do not have access to assisted suicide. In some states, they are unable to receive gender affirming medical care. These are just off the top of my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:23 PM
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Trump and Mike Tyson are extremely wealthy and have the money and power to defend themselves. The innocent people you plan to victimize will be working class and will lack these protections.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:21 PM
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I'm not going to defend myself from deliberate misrepresentations of my position.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:18 PM
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Nobody said anything about Trump. I'd like you to re-read this post and seriously question if these statements come from a desire to understand or a desire to vent. And if you are given the choice between someone who is probably good but openly hates you, and someone who is probably bad but is nice to you and sticks it to the people who hate you, which would you pick?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:16 PM
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I think bodily autonomy for all would be a good start. That covers a strong intersection of Feminist issues. In general, American social movements are more successful when they are focused on expanding, rather than limiting individual freedoms. The reproductive stuff, combined with the gender-queer issues, gives Feminism an opportunity to become the pro-freedom team and frame anti-Feminism as anti-Freedom. Currently the reverse is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:04 PM
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What? How is this responsive to what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:01 PM
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So a general social welfare movement in which women do all the work but can’t advocate for the things that would best improve their own quality of life. Not what I said at all
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:00 PM
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Did some men probably get falsely accused? Sure. So what? There’s always going to be liars about anything. This nonchalance about ruining innocent people's lives is the central issue with modern Feminism. You sound like a Batman villain.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:58 PM
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/minority
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:52 PM
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Enshrining the right to contraception and abortion into law, if not the Constitution, would be an important start. Dismantling the state-run marriage system. One of my personal pet issues is that I think the feds should establish a special division within the DOJ to actively investigate and prosecute Civil Rights Act violations, that would certainly benefit Feminists. These are just off the top of my head. The current decision making within Feminism seems to seriously lack imagination imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:51 PM
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It is disingenuous to pretend Me Too is just people saying they've been sexually assaulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:47 PM
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I genuinely doubt the Feminist Movement is capable of accomplishing anything in its current configuration, which is very unfortunate. If I were to wave a magic wand, I would build a Feminist Movement based on breaking down all traditional gender norms, and based on preserving and expanding freedom for all people. These would mean a greater emphasis on gender-queer issues and a de-emphasis on framing every single issue as "Boys vs girls". I would move away from rhetorical framings that center wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:46 PM
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Every movement has to decide what they focus on. If you are not focusing on issues that will build the broadest, most amped up base of support possible, you don't actually care about accomplishing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:39 PM
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Okay but we’re here posting on Reddit. That’s what you’re here doing. Sounds like that's all you do. I mean you’re hear talking about how meaningless a feminist movement is to you Am I? Why tf would I post this long essay and respond to hundreds of comments for something that's meaningless to me? You are literally making things up. Oh okay, so it’s not about how many women it affects at all. Weird, bc that’s the argument you kept repeating to people. It’s starting to seem like you’re just lookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:35 PM
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100% agree with all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:14 PM
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Nobody is arguing that rape does not matter. Feminists need to organize the broadest swath of the population that they possibly can. To do that, they need to focus on issues that appeal to the broadest possible swath of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:12 PM
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Not responding to my points. Have a nice day :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:09 PM
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Most issues that exist in the world cannot be solved. Work on things that can. That's my advice to everyone on every topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:07 PM
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Nothing in this comment responds to anything I have said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:06 PM
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Define intersectionalism. I have already stated that I am a Socialist, and Socialism is a Movement that seeks to unite working people along class lines to sieze power from their bosses and landlords. One place where we likely agree is on corporations hiring outside consultants to hold mandatory, unlicensed group therapy sessions on race and gender. These tactics are clearly an attempt by the owner class to divide workers and make it harder for us to unite and fight for our interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:04 PM
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I’m just one person who would like to not see other people being treated as non-consenting sex objects. And who is totally unwilling to actually do anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:00 PM
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I never said that. I said Feminists should use rhetoric to appeal to the broadest swath of people. A nihilist who twists people's words, what a shock.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:59 PM
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Like when a 50 year old man dates a 21 year old girl? Feminists and Me Too people are totally cool with that? Or women who publish erotic stories that involve rape fantasies? Those people don't get shamed for their sexuality by Feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:57 PM
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So your take is that the MeToo movement created a cultural undercurrent of disrespect towards men which years later caused men to strike back. Eeehhhh, kind of but not really. I'm saying that Me Too created a general culture of toxicity inside Feminism. Witch hunting, bad faith argument, openly expressing hatred or the desire for violence against an entire gender. I think the incredible emotional power of issues like SA and rape caused many within the Feminist Movement to turn a blind eye toward…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:55 PM
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So you agree with my categorization.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:43 PM
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Lolol I'm the OP. You think a bot wrote this post? Lmaoooo
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:42 PM
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You didn't read my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:42 PM
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And they've done a great job curing cancer
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:41 PM
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Where are you getting these numbers? The election results? People vote for more than just one issue, so the fact the party swung doesn’t necessarily mean they have gone against feminism I agree that it's a stupid metric, I used it because it's the same metric you used. You care about election results when it's convenient but don't when it's not. Idk what you mean here. You can talk and chew gum at the same time. Not everyone can. And when you are talking about organizing, not just running your m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:40 PM
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Very good question. You can't. That's why you should focus on more realistic issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:31 PM
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It is a minority of a minority. Centering an issue that only affects a minority of a minority is a bad organizing strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:30 PM
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All of them are incorrect, to a degree of absurdity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:29 PM
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This is an incredibly nonchalant attitude to take toward the preservation or civil rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:28 PM
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So it has the same level of power as the Hawk Tuah girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:22 PM
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People donate millions to SA prevention each year too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:21 PM
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You're trying to change the subject. The reason I called you repugnant is because you said: If women aren't fucking stupid men, women don't need abortions. Have a nice day :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:20 PM
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The list here is definitely limited and there are other, broader actions that would help. I would also point to the unbelievably condescending Kamala ad encouraging women to secretly vote for Kamala to stick it to their MAGA husbands. Seriously, how removed from human experience do you have to be to think people will vote for you because you insulted their spouse?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:18 PM
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Yes, I honestly think your accusation is very funny, you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:16 PM
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Go back to Infowars
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:15 PM
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Is it your goal to build the broadest possible coalition to fight for gender equality? Or do you have some other goal?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:14 PM
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Truth isn't "repugnant". No, it's not. You are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:12 PM
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They are common experiences for everyone regardless of gender. When I was sexually harassed I didn't see women lining up to help me. This speaks to my point about being an ally to your allies, by pretending the issue only affects women you show you don't care about other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:11 PM
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Google researchers strike again
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:10 PM
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Cool
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:09 PM
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Dumb take. There is no organized “feminist” movement. There are a few organizations like planned parenthood and the like but there isn’t even a womanisphere of ideologues. Sure there are some algorithms based creators that man hate but the idea of a Movement is laughable. By this logic you could say there was no Civil Rights Movement, there was just SNCC, Poor Peoples Campaign, etc. You're desperate to not engage with the substance. The me too movement was a direct result of fuckers like weinest…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:08 PM
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I had someone try to commit paternity fraud against me, and literally every woman I've ever spoken to about the topic takes your view and supports my victimization. That's why I'm angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:05 PM
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Do you think every social movement has the public's support? By your logic I could say "NAMBLA exists, so the public must like them"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:03 PM
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It’s meaningless in everything except as a reflection of how popular the ideas are. The fact that she won the popular vote means her platform was, in fact, more popular with voters. So it’s ridiculous when people say on the right “feminism is unpopular and people will never vote for it, people will never vote for a woman leader!” (likewise it’s just as ridiculous when people on the left say we are too misogynistic and sexist to vote for a woman or pro choice policies) - we did, more people did v…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:01 PM
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They are both things that the public agrees are bad, but don't want to think about and don't care enough to be motivated into action.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:51 PM
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Repugnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:50 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:49 PM
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The answer is in my post, I'm not going to repeat myself for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:43 PM
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These are all ludicrous statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:42 PM
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The loss of personal autonomy is the greatest risk to women at present. Women have lost the right to abortion. There are efforts to take their right to IVF, no-fault divorce, even the right to interstate travel.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:41 PM
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Even in the most extreme outlier studies, sexual assault is only purported to affect 20% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:38 PM
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I genuinely don't understand what you're trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:38 PM
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So you're saying after a decade of blood, sweat, and tears, you've achieved no material change.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:36 PM
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Read my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:35 PM
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Because it is not an issue that affects most people. Most people care about cancer. If you said "Should we help cancer victims?" Most people would say yes. But cancer is not going to be a motivating issue for the majority of people because most people don't have to deal with it. SA and rape are the same. An important issue that most people agree on, that has nothing to do with most people's lived experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:34 PM
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Posting pictures on the internet will help you obtain an abortion? That's wild, I should call my friends in TX and let them know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:32 PM
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Because rape and sexual assault are not the greatest risk to women, and do not even affect a majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:31 PM
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Can you elaborate on this? I don't understand how you could say they're not connected.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:30 PM
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Hillary won the popular vote Winning the popular vote in a Presidential election is meaningless. Trump spent four years in the WH, Hillary spent four years crying in the woods. the idea that feminism and the left are massively unpopular or that they “always lose” doesn’t really ring true when the republicans only won the popular vote for the first time in 20 years Democrats and Feminists are not the same thing. Democrats explicitly ran a boys vs girls campaign in 2024 and lost by an embarrassing…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:29 PM
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Re-read my comment, you didn't respond to what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:24 PM
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My hope is that the humiliations of the last few years will help them gain some perspective, especially when they see that their own actions are causing the opposite results to what they want. However, I suspect it is more likely that the rational people will jump ship and the crazies will become worse and worse as they go down with the ship. This is what's happening with Evangelicalism right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:16 PM
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This kind of rhetoric is why you always lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:13 PM
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I'm not saying you can't talk about it. I'm saying you should not make it the center of Feminist ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:12 PM
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Wow that's genius, I had no idea
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:01 PM
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It's really morally repugnant to use working people as a shield to protect paternity fraud. I am a Socialist, and I am the one standing up for the working class men who are imprisoned because they can't afford to pay child support to a woman who got pregnant with somebody else's kid. You are trying to put working class people in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:28 PM
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Yeah, I would say maybe not in the workplace because I think mixing romance with work makes everything overcomplicated, but in general I agree that there's no harm in just asking people out if you're respectful when you get a no.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 03:01 PM
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So you said "severe negative consequences" and now you've moved the goalposts to "negative consequences". If somebody is this invested in arguing with me about things that happened to me, I have to think they must have a pretty boring life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:50 PM
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Ciao, bella kiss kiss
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:44 PM
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For now
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:39 PM
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You tell me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:37 PM
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Give it time
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:34 PM
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Some men don't learn until it's too late
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:29 PM
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She was honestly great and helped me to understand the way I was contributing to my own problems, look for ways to improve myself, helped me overcome the toxic shame I'd had programmed into me as a kid. I slowly tapered off after becoming basically asymptomatic. No amount of therapy is gonna fix the fact that there is a huge percentage of women (I'd argue the majority) who only see dollar signs when they look at men. Protecting myself from this is essential to my mental health. The times I've le…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:12 PM
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I went to therapy weekly for two years
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:05 PM
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I didn't answer your question, you're right. I explained why your question was ludicrous on a conceptual level, and then you ignored me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:02 PM
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Okay so then you admit the money argument was bullshit, thank you. This comment sums up the Feminist position on this issue. You think you are entitled to men's time and money, and you think anything that protects men from your greed is "nonsense". You are exactly the reason men need to be able to demand paternity tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:01 PM
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Congrats on being the worst person in this thread. Quite an accomplishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:59 PM
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My attitudes come from my past experiences. When I was younger I had the just trust your partner attitude. My reward for this was one partner who constantly cheated on me, and a second who tried to commit paternity fraud against me. The reason women want men to blindly trust them is that it makes us easy victims. Full stop. I will never again take on the stupid, blind attitude that allowed me to be an easy target for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:57 PM
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And again, if that is your attitude then your husband's trust is misplaced. Trustworthy people don't fear verification.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:52 PM
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You've never met me and have no idea how women respond to me You're making personal attacks against me. This is the only way women know to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:51 PM
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Then wtf does this have to do with you? Why are you in this conversation at all? Literally the only dog you have in this fight at all, and it makes me think you're only doing this to help make it easier for women to commit paternity fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:50 PM
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If my best friend fucks my partner, the repercussion is that I will not be friends with him anymore. If my wife commits paternity fraud, the consequences will last decades and cost me tens of thousands of dollars at a minimum. You are desperately looking for ways to twist this around so that you can victimize men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:48 PM
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Lol whatever you say. Trying to gaslight me into believing I'm crazy if I try to protect myself from abusive women. Literally an abuser's tactic, well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:46 PM
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I agree with this, trust is like glass. So when I take precautions and wrap my trust in bubble wrap, and then you come along and say "WHY ARE YOU PROTECTING YOUR TRUST??? ARE YOU ACCUSING ME OF TRYING TO BREAK THE GLASS???" I get suspicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:45 PM
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If someone questions you and you start freaking out and saying "how dare you question me like this", you are hiding something. Full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:41 PM
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I'm in my late 20s. Just a man with enough life experience to know to ask for a paternity test. I have lived this nightmare before and won't do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:40 PM
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Lol You're literally trying to help women commit paternity fraud, gtfo with these false accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:39 PM
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If you expect financial support and emotional labor from me for AT LEAST the next two decades of my life, then yes some amount of verification are in order. If you can't do that, no one should trust you and no one should build a life with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:37 PM
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The consequences being, women punishing me for protecting myself from paternity fraud. I will say this much, most women probably wouldn't date a man with my mentality. Because they know it will make it harder for them to take advantage of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:36 PM
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If only women were more trustworthy. Then men could afford to give them the benefit of the doubt like you're saying. Unfortunately, as long as the dominant female narrative about men continues to be that all men are trash and you should just use them for your own purposes, men don't have the luxury of trusting their partners this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:34 PM
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It does matter how much they squawk, it shows their guilt. A hit dog will holler.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:29 PM
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This is absurd. The best friend is not in a committed relationship with the man. The standards of what a life partner and mate should be willing to do to help your relationship are higher than that of a friend. A paternity for the father in question will answer "Is this kid mine", which is the only question that truly matters in this context. The fact that 100% of the women in this thread are trying to slip and slither their way out of taking paternity tests should be eye opening for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:28 PM
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If women are unwilling to do the bare minimum to prove they are decent people, they don't deserve affection from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:21 PM
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Until he finds out what you've been up to
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:19 PM
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Lol "guys just let me do paternity fraud, you're being soooo meeeean" Women for real think it's their God given right to victimize us.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:19 PM
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If you're pregnant and can't scrape together $100, you need to get an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:16 PM
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And it doesn't mean won't either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:15 PM
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Every human being is psychologically capable of taking any action under the right circumstances. There are no limits to the things you are capable of. Pretending otherwise shows you put yourself on a pedestal. Furthermore, while you may be assured there is no risk of you cheating, your partner does not have access to your inner emotional life the way you do, and it is perfectly reasonable for them to want or need outward assurances of your character.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:14 PM
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Tell me you're cheating without telling me you're cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:11 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:10 PM
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He got a write up. Again, you make a lot of assumptions about a situation that did not involve you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:06 PM
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Totally unrelated to you or anything you wrote here, but I take great pleasure knowing people who support genocide will burn in Hell for eternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:05 PM
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I'm glad to see you have such deep knowledge about the subtext of a conversation you didn't participate in. That is not what she meant, and I should know, I was there. But thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:02 PM
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Why would women need to ask for dating advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:25 AM
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Why would women judge men for wanting to have casual sex? If she also likes casual sex she could give him advice, and if she doesn't she can just tell him she doesn't know. Your judgmental attitude toward permiscuous men says a lot more about you than it does anybody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:23 AM
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It also increases the number of people with whom you aren't compatible who will find you attractive. So what? More people you're compatible with and more people to give you validation even if you're not compatible. This does not negate my point and I don't know why you felt the need to type it at all. I mean, can you teach someone to be Chris Hemsworth or Michael B Jordan? It doesn't really work that way. If a person has the time, money, psychological motivation, and willingness to take performa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:07 AM
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There was recently some drama at my workplace where one of the new guys got in trouble because he was basically asking out every woman who worked in the office. My female coworker and I were talking about this, and she said she didn't understand why someone would do something like that. I told her that there are plenty of women in the world who just want to have sex, and if you're a guy who just wants to have sex and you just ask out everyone you see, eventually you'll find one of those women. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:45 AM
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The more people find you attractive, the more likely you are to find a compatible partner. And how is it impossible to teach people how to be attractive to the broadest swath of people? The more co conventionally attractive you are, the more people are likely to find you attractive. People can absolutely teach you how to become more conventionally attractive. I genuinely don't understand why blue pill people want to act like attraction is some kind of ethereal mystery we can't possibly hope to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:38 AM
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It's not a question of what you feel, it's a question of reality. Relative to men, yes, women are showered in validation and value. Feminism focuses exclusively on the feelings of women because it has no basis in the material world. We must reorder our whole society so that women feel safe and feel equal, regardless of whether their feelings of unsafeness or unequalness are based in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:30 AM
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If you are this fearful of men, you need professional mental health services.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 06:58 AM
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100% this. If her main complaint is men not wanting to commit, it means she's selecting men who have better options.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 06:32 AM
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Status and cliques exist to enforce social etiquette. Castes and hierarchies exist to divide labor. This "whatcha gonna do people are just built to be competitive" attitude is Joker level cringe and reveals your character.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 06:31 AM
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This woman is describing her toxic attraction. She should talk with a mental health professional to unpack the underlying cause of these feelings and work to remedy them. If she does not do this, she is likely to fall into a cycle of abusive and toxic relationships. This is very similar to things I have personally worked through in therapy, addressing why I kept finding myself attracted to manipulative, toxic women. This woman is suffering from a serious mental health problem that could potentia…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 06:09 AM
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Her husband should be flattered that you have these sexual fantasies about him despite him being a complete stranger. He clearly holds you in an insatiable grasp.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 06:03 AM
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I like cocaine but I'm smart enough to stay away from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:55 AM
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The only way to change society is to radicalize other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:44 AM
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I am comfortable in my gender presentation and satisfied with who I am, but I am certainly aware that the vast majority of women would not consider me masculine enough. I'm just not interested in changing to fit their hyper-judgemental standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:42 AM
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Let them eat cake is a perfect summary of women's attitudes toward men, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:36 AM
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I wasn't trying to answer your question, I was criticizing the premise of your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:25 AM
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If you are a straight man who is not supermodel good looking and not spending money to get women's attention, you are going to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:18 AM
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Blue pillers are the only people who ever talk about people being entitled to things. When you see this word being used, be aware that you are seeing a Feminist straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:03 AM
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There is also an issue of effort. Women who get minimal responses are likely putting in very little effort, or presenting themselves in some way that is a red flag. If a man gets no matches it means he is normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:01 AM
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After a decade straight of generalizing all men, women want to say "don't generalize me I'm special uwu"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:49 PM
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Advocating for all peoples to to liberated from oppression by any means necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:56 PM
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No, I dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:30 PM
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Lol, yes, I choose when violence is morally justifiable and when it isn't. Applying blanket disapproval to violence is morally bankrupt and is an effective argument in favor of all oppression around the world. You are throwing yourself in with history's greatest evils in order to troll people on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:05 PM
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Unfortunately a lot of Feminism has become group therapy with no therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:51 PM
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By any means necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:49 PM
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No u
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:07 PM
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You believe biological sex determines individual behavior. You do not live in the real world. Any discussion is just window dressing the the fundamental flaw in your worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:02 PM
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Curfews on any segment of society, outside of a temporary emergency situation, would justify coordinated violence against the government and society at large. Citizens have a moral obligations to combat authoritarians using any means necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:50 PM
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A fascist system such as this would justify violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:45 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:42 PM
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Violent crimes committed by women are less likely to be reported because 1. Men are shamed for reporting women and 2. Women's violence is viewed as less serious than men's Until Men and women are held to equal accountability, we do not know who commits more violent crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:41 PM
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You are still about 10 questions behind from the last argument we had. You are a bad faith actor and it would be stupid to take you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:39 PM
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You are literally the one ignoring questions lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:33 PM
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Not really much point in arguing with a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:33 PM
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You have been asked a direct question and have not answered it. I will repeat myself: Most college liberal arts professors are women. So does that mean we should ignore discrimination against women in liberal arts departments?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:31 PM
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I have no way of knowing who commits more violent crime because the courts and police discriminate against men. Let's clean up the discrimination so we can answer this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:24 PM
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Most college liberal arts professors are women. So does that mean we should ignore discrimination against women in liberal arts departments?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:22 PM
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How are those crime stats determined? Do you have a data set that isn't skewed by the implicit biases of the police and the court system? The cops I've known tended to be social traditionalists. When a social traditionalist arrives at a crime scene, don't you think they'll start their investigation from a traditional viewpoint? This should be a good example to people that Feminism is a regressive movement. Feminists seek to reinforce any traditional idea that helps women and hurts men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:21 PM
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All of this is just your feelings and is not supported by evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:15 PM
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Citation needed A good example of the patriarchy conspiracy theory. Everything in the world is secretly controlled by the puppet master male kabal. It's the same lazy reasoning employed by antisemites.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:15 PM
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And how do you know that? Because you feel that way? When convicted of the same crime, on average women are given half the prison time as men. Female abusers routinely use the Justice system as a tool to go after their victims. You are a misogynist. You believe biological sex determines individual behavior. This is regressive and has no place in a free and equal society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:13 PM
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Moderate hate speech in your sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:07 PM
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What part do you disagree with? I genuinely don't understand your argument. Throughout all of history, false narratives and generalizations have been applied to both men and women, right? Do you agree with that or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:06 PM
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Yes, police pre judge men as violent, you are correct. That's called implicit bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:05 PM
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Yes? Are you saying that men and women have not been treated differently throughout all of history? That's funny to you? Scratch a male feminist and you'll find a man who hates himself right under the surface.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:03 PM
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This is neo nazi shit. Fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:01 PM
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95% of people who are convicted of violent crimes are men. That statistic is a reflection of how the Justice system treats men and women differently, not a reflection of men's behavior. And progressives claim to understand this concept when we talk about crime statistics and race.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:59 PM
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So then you retract your original comment. Retraction accepted, you should probably edit it to show you understand its wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:54 PM
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Absolutely this. Amazing that some people can grasp this when talking about one group of people, but suddenly don't understand when talking about another group.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:49 PM
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Off the top of my head I can think of three times in the past couple years that female coworkers have openly said they hate men in front of me. There is absolutely no way I could get away with the casual hatefulness that I see women engaging in. Edit: Shout out to whoever downvoted this post where I just share my experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:47 PM
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No, just pointing out that it's not exactly a new thing for serial rapists to be elected President, there were at least two before Trump. And Clinton was accused by Jennifer Flowers during the '92 election.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:45 PM
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When people are asked in surveys if they'd date the opposite party, they imagine an opposite. If they were asked whether they would date someone "more conservative" or "more liberal", the results would likely be less extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:43 PM
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"Social politics" is code for worldview, and it would be very difficult to be in a serious, long term relationship with someone who has an opposing worldview to yours. How would you form a family with someone who had opposite beliefs about family planning? How do you chase success while married to someone whose idea of success is opposite to yours? What community will you be a part of if you and your partner both think the other one's community is damaging society? The good news is that, general…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:40 PM
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In fairness, we've had at least two rapist Presidents before.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:31 PM
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TwoXChromosomes has millions of users. The TRP sub is quarantined so I can't see how many members it has, but TheRedPillStories only has a couple thousand. There is a huge difference between these two groups in both scale and social acceptability. Comparing the two ignores a giant problem by pointing out a tiny problem, like saying "I know you have an open head wound, but you need to do something about your smelly feet too."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:26 PM
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Thats pretty jumbled but I think you're asking what my point is. The commenter is using an incorrect understanding of "low trust society" to justify nihilist, solopsistic behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 11:01 PM
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Lol you don't need to give a definition to use a word incorrectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:23 PM
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Feminism has been a positive social movement historically, but has been coopted by sexists and nihilistic capitalists.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:20 PM
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That's not what "low trust society" means.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:19 PM
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I'll never stop going after people who support child molesters
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 03:59 AM
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Donald Trump and P Diddy were also friends. You are a Jeffrey Epstein apologist. Kamala Harris put child molesters in prison. Donald Trump pal'ed around with child molesters for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 02:58 AM
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Donald Trump is at the center of the largest pedophile conspiracy since the Vatican Scandal and some people here want him to be the President of the most powerful country in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:58 AM
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virtue signaling Found the sociopath
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:40 PM
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* Jeffrey Esptein describes inside information about the Trump White House, proving he was in contact with Trump post-2016 and post-Palm Beach conviction: https://youtu.be/f3KIO6VfxpU?si=M8RdrNxc2NpVyFiD Jeffrey Epstein says: "[Trump] does nasty things to his best friends. His best friends' wives. Anyone who- He first tries to gain their trust, and then he uses it to do bad things. That's just how it goes." https://youtu.be/dtNdE_q5w28?si=rcof-76GUg0QGGzV Jeffrey Epstein says he was "[Trump's] c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:29 PM
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As opposed to guys who use words like sigma and grindset, which is irresistible to women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:19 PM
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Average Kamala Enjoyer: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:47 PM
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Average Trump Boi: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:47 PM
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Hot take: Trump is a wealthy, effete, Manhattan real estate developer turned game show host who wants to surrender to Russia. Kamala is a former prosecutor who has taken on the cartels (what did Trump do to stop the cartels?) and wants America's military to be the most lethal fighting force in the world. Kamala is the masc choice, Trump supporters are femboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:34 PM
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Trump has said he would immediately end the war if elected. The only way to do that is to either nuke Russia (which Trump has said he's against) or surrender and let Russia hold the territories they're occupying. Biden is standing by Ukraine as they launch long range missiles into Russia. I do agree with you that Putin purposely invaded while Biden was President. Putin underestimated the West's resolve to defend Ukraine and was trying to make Biden look weak in order to help his preferred presid…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:04 PM
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Lol my man you think I'm gonna listen to the Washington Examiner? The Examiner would call Dwight Eisenhower left wing. This is like leftists quoting Pravda in the 60s, its embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 07:09 PM
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I would say you're a player in your own oppression as an American citizen and a worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 05:36 PM
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Censorship of medical disinformation, let's be clear. And as someone who is to the left of Bernie Sanders let me tell ya, Kamala is not to the left of Bernie Sanders.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 05:31 PM
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"If you don't vote for the aging, orange drag queen you're gayyyy"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 05:29 PM
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You are a deeply dishonest person and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 05:16 PM
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Lol "Most women agree with me but won't admit it" SAD!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 05:14 PM
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I'll check it out as soon as you address the points I've made here. This is what Feminists do. Never admit you've been proven wrong, just desperately grasp on to whatever you can to keep arguing. As the former President would say, SAD!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 05:05 PM
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If your boyfriend is Conservative his fundamental emotion is fear. And if you're voting for a guy who Jeffrey Epstein called his "closest friend for 10 years", you are the one whose girlfriend should be concerned. https://youtu.be/9VDK5ttnzz4?si=1WRyU1A8xIz4oT2Z
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:53 PM
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Wtf are you talking about? Why don't you try addressing even a single point I've made in this thread before you try to move on to something new?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:34 PM
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To those reading this, I hope it's evident by now that Feminism is an empty ideology that employs any rhetorical tactic necessary to keep debate going after being proven wrong. Debating Feminists is always valuable because it forces Feminists to reveal this fact about themselves. This conversation is yet another prime example of this. Don't allow yourself to be silenced. Take them on head on. The worst they can do is embarrass themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 03:14 AM
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This response literally made me cackle, thank you for that. Even if you actually believed that, half of everyone on that list is male. Tell me you've never taken Intro to Sociology without telling me you've never taken Intro to Sociology. Why didn’t you simply look up the definition of sexuality if you didn’t know it? Sexuality: a person's identity in relation to the gender or genders to which they are typically attracted; sexual orientation. That has nothing whatsoever to do with the number of …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 03:07 AM
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The men in the family issue all the warnings about men, it has always been so. Lol. Family represents only a small fraction of childhood social programming, with schools, authority figures, media, and peer groups making up the rest. That's why it is very common for people to grow up with values drastically different from their family's. How do you explain Feminist women who reject the paternalism you're talking about, but are still convinced men are inherently dangerous? Women don’t hate our sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:50 AM
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Men do inform girls to be wary around men for sure This is an irrational fear that is passed from woman to girl, and pretending otherwise makes it clear that you are not acting in good faith. As far as your other point, no one informs women that they are virtuous little angels. All girls are taught since early childhood that female bodies are occasions to sin, and they are admonished for daring to let a bra strap show. So then it's women who have internalized self hatred for their own sexuality …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:13 AM
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We are talking about women's perceptions, not men's. Why are you trying to change the subject? Women are taught from a very young age to be irrationally fearful of men. They are taught "Men are dogs" or "Men only want one thing", rather than being taught that men are individuals with individualized thoughts and feelings. Are you denying this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 01:52 AM
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Someone said something you don't like so you insinuate that they are a bad person. Classic feminist tactic. Engage with the substance of what I said or GTFO. I won't be shamed into silence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 01:43 AM
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"Source: My opinion"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 12:06 AM
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Men are less focused on image-based status
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 12:04 AM
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Kids today believe everything on the internet and take it as absolute truth. Citation needed
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 12:03 AM
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Incorrect. Women are not honest about their desires because they are socially programmed to view themselves as altruistic and moral, and men as depraved and dangerous. So admitting that they engage in objectification and hyper-judgment creates cognitive dissonance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 12:02 AM
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Women view themselves as standard issue and everyone else as the strange or bad ones, so analyzing women is off limits because they' think they're just "regular". Edit: For clarity
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:58 PM
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You are a liar. Show me where my comment insulted you. Edit: Obviously people can see this for themselves, but I want to point out that when confronted about her dishonesty, she just downvoted and ran away. This is the Feminist playbook.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 07:38 PM
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Very funny that women are incapable of having someone disagree with them without responding "ur so mad lmao". There's nothing in my comment to suggest I'm upset, please don't involve me in your fantasies about causing men emotional distress. And yeah, sure, gen z and Boomers are so gullible. As opposed to you, a genius who has never been wrong about anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 07:30 PM
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How do you know the women he's talking about fall into this category? Man: Criticizes women's behavior Yall: Those women don't count
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 07:25 PM
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Doesn't respond to anything in the post. Accuses men of having no critical thinking. Accuses an entire generation of being incapable of understanding media. Pretty typical feminist rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 07:22 PM
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You're claiming that most couples divide housework based on who works more hours, but also saying when both partners work full time the woman does the housework. You seem confused. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 07:16 PM
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Women have an endless supply of potential partners. For men, getting ghosted is a success story.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:35 PM
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I agree with you, most heterosexual men who are in relationships are being taken advantage by their partner
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:30 PM
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Lol "Babe I know you spend 30 hours a week on a construction site, but I spend 35 hours a week sitting in front of a computer so you have to should do all the housework too." Utterly delusional, but a great example of the entitlement of heterosexual women, thank you for this case study
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:31 PM
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No accusations. Asked questions. I’m asking if what I’m understanding you to mean is what you actually mean. You know - a conversation. How could you have killed all those people in the Bay Area in the 1960s? Why would you write those codes and send them to the San Francisco Chronicle?? What's wrong with you??? These are just questions, not accusations. I agree people are responsible for having an orgasm. Good. But there is only so much you can do with a partner who is unwilling to participate i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:50 AM
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You think women bringing up an orgasm gap in their lived experience is just a made up ideology? You think we’ve all just decided to shame men, but the reality is, we don’t really care to orgasm, and actually it’s very difficult to do so anyways? That’s actually what you think? No. I didnt say that. But that didn't stop you from hurling accusations at me. You seem to just do this on reflex when anyone disagrees with you. Now, I do think people are responsible for their own orgasm and it's pretty …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:16 AM
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Because for the past decade Feminists have deployed this tactic against men and I'm tired of putting up with it. Feminists practically never engage with the substance of critiques against their ideology. Instead, they throw out insults. Feminists try to manipulate people and play on their insecurities to shame them for daring to speak up. It's disgusting, it's incredibly common, and it we're ever going to make progress on gender we have to purge every person who does it from the grown ups table.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:02 AM
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I'm invested in women who throw around accusations without evidence being held accountable
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 11:53 PM
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Based on my personal experiences, people who throw around terms like "white knighting" or "virtue signaling" are morally bankrupt and do not value basic decency and kindness. In my experience, these people are poison to everyone around them, and as the people around them grow up and mature, they find themselves more and more alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 11:44 PM
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Now you're just trying to get the last word. Very sad, and typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:45 PM
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You probably can't predict how sex will be, but you can predict how someone will react to open communication about sex. And I'm not mad at all. Every time you respond you help expose the fundamentally immature mindset that motivates most Feminists, that's why I'm keeping it going. Why are you responding?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:36 PM
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If you don't get horny, my condolences
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:23 PM
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Mmmm, no, but that's cute. If I'm triggered by anything it's you blaming other people for your bad decisions. If you think it takes a psychic to get to know someone and make inferences about whether they'll be a good partner, I know why you're having unsatisfying relationships. Also, you understand that futurism and being a psychic are not the same thing, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:16 PM
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I agree with everything here. I'll just add that I think this is pretty straightforward: if you embody traditional roles in the way you court partners, you end up with a partner who likes traditional roles. I would argue that many Feminists tend to enter unsatisfying relationships because they themselves are not embodying the kind of behavior they want from others, which then reinforces the Men Bad reflex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:00 PM
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Don't select those men for sex. Problem solved. Why are you complaining to me about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:53 PM
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I'd like to prod this idea a bit. Do you think women who are dissatisfied with traditional gender roles in relationships would have an easier time finding compatible partners if they themselves put in more effort to defy those norms, even in places that may challenge or intimidate them? It seems like our hypothetical man should have no problem finding a Feminist partner who agrees with his frustration about traditional roles, and yet I don't see Feminists taking on the "chaser" role in relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:49 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:40 PM
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It never happened again, and yet here you are using it as a reason to generalize about men. You had one bad experience, and that gives you a free pass to not put in effort in your relationships. FBBS.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:20 PM
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I just gave you ample opportunity to give any logical opposition to my experience. You couldn’t, so you just attacked the argument. Like... in a debate? I have no doubt that you've had bad sex before, most people have. You accused my personal experience of being “just trust me bro” So you have personally experience of sex with OP? Because you could have just said that, that would have cleared everything up. Otherwise, your sexual experiences are irrelevant to the topic we're discussing. and then…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:17 PM
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You are grasping at logical fallacies to avoid recognizing that you are incapable of disagreeing with men without personally insulting them. You've started personally insulting me now too, you can't help yourself. You are the one making an accusation and that means you are the one responsible for providing proof. Can you prove to me that you're not the Zodiac Killer? It's 2024, I shouldn't have to explain this to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:57 PM
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I'm talking about what I have personally coined Feminist Bad Boyfriend Syndrome(TM). Women who suffer from FBBS blame society for their own inability to see red flags and make accurate judgments about their potential partners' character. The blame cycle of FBBS causes these women to blindly enter bad relationships, lash out at society/men when the relationship ultimately fails, never examine their own actions and learn from their mistakes, and repeat. It is possible for women with FBBS to break …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:49 PM
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I reject every premise in this comment
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:28 PM
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You are the only one here expressing anger, an emotion I imagine you experience quite often.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:26 PM
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Women bragging about their bad taste in partners never stops being funny
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:25 PM
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Communicate with your partner = Uppity moral values lolol My sympathies to any person who ends up with you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:24 PM
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Unless living expenses are split even, they most certainly should not split childcare and chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:23 PM
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Women are bigots, thank you for your admission
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:22 PM
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Nobody said anything about marriage, I'm opposed to marriage. There has been a steep increase in under 35s saying they are not able to find the kinds of relationships they want. You are responding to a point I never made.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:21 PM
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So because you lie to men, you assume all women are as small and dishonest as you, got it. Nothing you've said provides any actual proof beyond "trust me bro", which leads me to believe you're incapable of having serious conversations about sex without just personally insulting people. In other words, you're a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:19 PM
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Over the past decade
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 03:12 AM
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Women are now both earning more than men on average, and also still demanding a partner who makes more than they do. This shows that, no matter how financially successful, women still expect men to pay their bills for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 02:28 AM
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I agree with this, but I would add that women's lack of empathy for men prevents them from having connections even when they consciously believe they want a relationship. The term "the ick" describes women's hyper-judgemental attitudes toward minor elements of their potential partners' personalities. When I say women don't want healthy stable relationships, I'm referring in part to women's nitpicking and self-sabotaging judgment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 02:24 AM
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Commenter downvoted without resounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 02:20 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 02:14 AM
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Embarrassing response
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 02:11 AM
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Men don't look for people to pay their bills for them, they look for coequal partners. Women are fundamentally selfish in their approach to relationships. Thank you for agreeing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 02:09 AM
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You are now trying to muddy the waters. You have already established that most women are looking for a male partner who makes more money than them. So you yourself know that most women would refuse to have the kind of set up you have with your brother when choosing a supposed life partner. Women do not want equal relationships, they want someone to pay their bills for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 02:04 AM
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The most common advice to couples who want an actual equal relationship is to contribute equally to shared life expenses, and then have separate bank accounts for personal spending. The fact you would pretend not to understand this concept shows you are a bad faith actor.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:55 AM
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Lol. "Our relationship should be completely equal, except in the way we divide the labor that provides us with food, housing, and clothing." If your finances are not equal, then you do not have an equal relationship. This is an excellent way in which Feminists happily reinforce traditionalist gender norms any time those norms benefit them and damage men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:50 AM
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So not an equal relationship then. A relationship where they get to be a parasite on someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:25 AM
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So the majority of breadwinning and half of housekeeping
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:19 AM
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Very specific experience you're sharing here and trying to apply to men as a whole
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:50 AM
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You're right. Many women feel they are not being respected unless their male partner takes on the majority of both breadwinning and homekeeping.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:18 AM
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Literally exactly the same attitude Nazis have toward minorities. "I don't want to hate (insert group) but I've just seen how bad they are!"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:05 AM
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Look I don't make the rules
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 11:28 PM
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Once again, women blame men for their bad dating choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 11:15 PM
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Please explain what in the original text shows OP is bad at sex. Edit: Commenter downvoted without responding.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 11:13 PM
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I fork men and women and agree with OP. Straight women for real think they're the only people with sexual experience and will gas up each other into believing literally anything is a man's fault. If your partner isn't doing what you want in bed, talk to them. If you're choosing to date and fuck people you can't communicate with like that, that is 100% your fault. Date better people, make better decisions. Stop blaming us for your bad decisions or your fear of communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 11:08 PM
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I share this experience. Women don't put effort into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 11:03 PM
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I don't think he's talking about individual people making a pretense about not wanting a relationship in order to avoid advances. I believe the point is that there has been a decline in stable heterosexual relationships in recent years, that dominant feminist rhetoric on this topic blames men for the problem, when the reality is that women just have no interest in stable healthy relationships with mutual respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 11:02 PM
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Anyone with a tattoo of John Lennon is automatically a 3
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 08:35 PM
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I don't think that it's appropriate to bring up the suffering women experience under theocracy in an English language dating discussion sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:20 PM
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The impetus that would be required for women to lower their standards across society would be an awakening of women's empathy toward men, which is currently lacking. What you are describing as "high standards" could be better described as objectification. Women view men as sexual objects or as "providers", not as fully formed individuals with rich emotional lives. Men who complain that "women's standards are too high" are expressing dissatisfaction with this objectification but lack the language…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:53 PM
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This is the "reverse racism" argument applied to gender. Edit: I feel like this actually deserved more of a response. MRA is growing in that it used to have absolutely nobody and now it has some people. Even among right wing people, the rage bait misogyny is not taken seriously. FD Signifier has some great videos discussing the manosphere and talks about what a small minority these people actually are, and most of that minority is made up of preteens and teenagers, not adult men. While it may be…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:42 PM
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Western women are not sharing in the pain of women who live under totalitarian misogynistic regimes in other parts of the world. I am an American bisexual man, and it would be pretty messed up for me to claim that I share in the suffering of queer people in Saudi Arabia or Kenya.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:38 PM
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Mens Rights Activists have no power in society, and many of their policy goals (not their vitriol) are legitimate. Particularly, family courts absolutely discriminate against men and the child support/alimony system represents outdated, paternalistic views toward women, which results in discrimination against men. Feminism on the other hand, is a broadly accepted ideology. Feminists may not be supported by a majority of Americans, but they occupy the space of a legitimate social movement, while …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:34 PM
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And can be jailed for doing so. This is like saying "Why legalize marijuana? Everybody's already smoking it!"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:19 PM
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buuuuuuut there are ABSOLUTELY things attractive men can say that resorts them right back to zeros. Matt Rife is a good example of this. No amount of exercise or plastic surgery makes up for being a petty man child.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:13 PM
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The sex you give her Immediately disqualified yourself from debate
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:09 PM
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I can bring myself to orgasm by hand fairly quickly too, and yet I often struggle to orgasm with a partner. I have never once blamed my partner for that, male or female. Blaming somebody else for you not having an orgasm is childish.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:04 PM
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A true "Modern Woman" would be free to choose either if these paths, or to dip her toe into one or the other to see what she thinks. I am not religious, dont want children, and opposed to involving the government in my relationships, so I would personally prefer to live life in line with your definition of modern woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:01 PM
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A rationale that is 1. Bad 2. Able to be combatted with social messaging, and 3. Strongly encouraged by Feminism while discouraged by Gender-Queer Theory
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:57 PM
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Interesting, because when men engage in negative behavior the way to hold them accountable seems to be public shaming and social stigma, if not the complete loss of their career and livelihood. Is it possible men experience stronger social constraints on their bad behavior in comparison to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:54 PM
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Yes, and this is bad, because male and female are socially constructed groups that hold little real world significance outside of some biological traits, and these biological traits can be reversed with modern medicine. Break down the gender dichotomy, judge individuals as individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:50 PM
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Kind of ridiculous to hear a critique of widespread, deeply socially ingrained female behavior and just say "don't date those women." This sounds an awful lot like victim blaming. Why aren't the women held accountable for their behavior and the way it contributes to rape culture by blurring the lines of consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:45 PM
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Men and women engage in the same behaviors. Women get a pass from society for bad behavior, which makes them more dangerous. Individuals should be treated as individuals, gender is not a binary, break down the gender dichotomy that encourages us to fight across the male-female divide and start demanding respect and decency from every individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:41 PM
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If the minimum wage rises, all wages go up, not just minimum wage workers. Additionally, you could make the same point about Trump. Trump wants to stop taxing tips and most tipped workers are women so he must be conspiring to help them. It's silly. This is to say nothing for the suicidal impulse that would make someone want to economically depress 50% of the population out of spite. Workers making more money is good for the economy because they have more disposable income to spread around into t…
/r/MensRights30/10/24 07:34 AM
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This is called a non-struggle attitude
/r/MensRights30/10/24 07:23 AM
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Man expresses anger at the way women treat him You: Must be because he can't get laid Embarrassing, childish, proof that Feminism is an empty ideology.
/r/MensRights30/10/24 07:13 AM
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Believing in patriarchy is antisemitism for white women
/r/MensRights30/10/24 07:02 AM
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Yeah I would argue that women are much more likely than men to judge how put together someone is in life. Dudes will still go for the girl who has trash all over her apartment and forgets to brush her teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:34 PM
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