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You realise I'm a woman right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 08:08 AM
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It’s because the government doesn’t trust the working and lower classes to raise their own kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 12:17 PM
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When I was 20 I was more interested in ideas than people still and sexuality was not really on my radar (though it was approaching, around 21 I began to wake up to that side of life). Hard for me to relate therefore to what 20 year old college girls want. Plus I studied compsci and the girls in my class were many shades of not normal (all 3 of them).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 03:39 AM
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Why do you think so many women treat attractive men as the prize and willingly get pumped and dumped? Intrafemale status competition in a post-slutshaming culture. Is vetting for sexual history abhorrent? No, but if you make it a primary consideration you might miss something you'd actually be happy with - but hey, lots of fish in the sea etc. Why do you think some women cannot handle causal sex and become damaged as a result? Sex is ultimately about creating new life and creating new life with …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 01:20 PM
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Modest in terms of money maybe (although we have all the mod cons, just not a house deposit yet :P) but in terms of time we're much richer, which seems like a much better thing than to have an extra bunch of stuff we don't need. We don't run a car though so I guess that covers a big chunk of "lifestyle" but I kind of like the feelings of eco-virtue that I get from not driving (although I would love to be able to drive into the country and go on walks and stuff).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 01:04 PM
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I'm a SAHM and my husband earns about £40k, its doable. Obviously we'd be financially more comfortable if I worked but a) it would make it harder for him to travel for work and b) it would mean all the chores and errands would have to be squished into the weekends and we'd have less time to chill out together and have fun. Plus we are going to homeschool our kids and doing that while working would also be a lot harder (people do it but it usually involves working opposite schedules - i.e. less t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 12:26 PM
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In the UK, at least with ethnically British middle class women, from my experience after your child is 2 there is no such thing as SAHMs - you're unemployed and it's weird and suspect that you are not looking for a job. I don't know anyone (and I go to all the mummy groups round here) who is planning to stay home past maternity leave. It is just not the done thing. In the lower classes its more common because childcare is more expensive than the work they can get will pay but at the same time th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 12:22 PM
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They have babies and then they're exhausted and often undergoing hormonal fluctuations for up to 3 years after each child. This can then become entrenched since sex begets sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 11:56 AM
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You just make your behavioural expectations clear and they come out of the woodwork/people who really like you change their behaviour?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 11:51 AM
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Kindness in the aspect of generosity (or "liberality" in the sense used by Aristotle) is absolutely a masculine trait. Kindness in the aspect of nurturance is less so. Its sort of like the difference between fathering a child vs mothering one actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 11:47 AM
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Civilisation is the self-domestication of man. Feminism is women opting into civilisation as well - that is to say, their own self-domestication.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 11:25 AM
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What if you or the other are a bit spectrum?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 11:08 AM
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By definition the majority of anyone are going to be at or below median value.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 11:02 AM
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He’s off exploring for months on end and often putting himself in dangerous situations - not exactly a stable life partner. Is that something you want in a rational sense rather than an instinctive "drawn to" sense though?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 10:59 AM
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Because the negative frat boy characterisation of "what women want" doesn't reflect the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 08:55 AM
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It's because they're hungry.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 08:15 AM
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Merry Christmas to you too now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/15 09:29 AM
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Went to church today, tomorrow having Christmas lunch with my parents and Christmas supper with my husband's parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/15 12:42 AM
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That's like blowing all your money at the dog track because your gambling addict ex just won a bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/15 12:33 AM
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I don't know and I certainly don't have data about it. I'd imagine men, but I don't think it's a productive way to think. The victimhood Olympics is a game no-one really wins, so why play?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/15 12:23 AM
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PT in the gym didn't even give me eye contact when I brought the staff a Christmas card this evening belle. What's up with that? That's rude :/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/15 12:18 AM
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Adultery should be illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 08:32 PM
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and only responds to sensitive, artsy neurotic guys who aren't afraid to be vulnerable, etc. That doesn't sound like black hat guy...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 08:13 PM
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Black hat guy is so alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 08:09 PM
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Rape is traumatic at least partially because the sex itself can be pleasurable and being forced to experience what is a very intimate and vulnerable pleasure with a person you don't like is shameful and unpleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 11:00 AM
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I thought there was a study where girls who went to the hospital claiming to have had their drinks spiked just turned out to universally have drank more than they had thought they'd drunk due to being too drunk to count their drinks. I'm not saying it never happens, but I really doubt it happens much, mostly its just women trying to keep up with the boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 10:37 AM
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At the end of the day we humans are just monkeys that climb corporate ladders instead of trees. Speak for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 10:28 AM
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Which comment? I did delete a comment because I decided I was being too open (which I do a lot without deleting comments but sometimes have the prudence to realise and delete them).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 10:10 AM
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Only many people would consider it murder and unethical (including myself). If I wanted to lower a country's population, I would give financial incentives for people not to breed and make it government based. Some people think it's unethical to destroy species after species, habitat after habitat, including the atmospheric habitat we all share and that governs our climate, just so some extra humans, of whom there are ample, can eat. The only effective population control program has been China's …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 10:08 AM
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Well from a population control perspective, since we're not worrying about mass foeticide, wars are a pretty good option too. Even if only men do the fighting lots of women will die from disease, damage to infrastructure and so on, so there will be plenty of opportunity to further damage the reproductive pool. This is really a win win from a pure population control perspective. Same goes for additional crime (but less efficiently).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 09:52 AM
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Unfortunately lobbying generally is not about the accurate use of words so much as the useful twisting of them. And the left isn't a monolith, plenty of people more concerned about climate change than the rights of female foetuses they don't (as illogical as it seems) even believe are alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 12:39 AM
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Eh, put the right spin on it, make it a thing only for foreign countries not western countries (which have declining populations and less of an issue with sex selective abortion anyway), I reckon the idea could be sold. You spin it as not interfering with other countries right to self determination, refusing to limit abortion rights (even for sex selection) and not imposing western values on others (anti-cultural imperialism). You'd have opposition of course, but so does any idea, there's plenty…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 12:33 AM
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It's not that it's inconvenient, it's that they will generally get a reasonable amount of male attention without approaching, so they have less incentive to approach. It is inconvenient when things inevitably go too fast and one ends up getting scared and having to reject the guy one approached. A woman naturally has more to lose from a sexual encounter as has often been talked about here, so she has a tendancy to want things to be slower and more cautious than the man, if she approaches a man s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 12:22 AM
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The best way to limit population is to legalise sex selective abortion and kill female foetuses. Since they're the bottleneck then they are the best avenue for reducing the next generation. Before I was a Christian and opposed to abortion on principle I used to advocate for that solution to the population problem. Technically a thousand men would be enough genetic diversity to service a whole country worth of women with no reduction in fecundity. But less women means a smaller next generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 11:56 PM
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Women can't do without men, psychologically, without even considering the sperm issue. Before I met my husband, I was always emotionally all over the place, deeply angry and unsatisfied in a way I could hardly even understand myself. Since being with my husband the sense of peace and joy in my life, the lack of drama or need for drama, the post orgasmic haze of satisfaction and contentment that covers life like a blanket - it is like being a different person. Women need men, not just as sperm do…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 11:54 PM
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Same reason it's fashionable to be gay and not to be religious. It's a rebellion against the (mostly imaginary) past.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 11:42 PM
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I explained that in the thread. I'm not keen on single mothers most of the time but that's a separate products to be dealt with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 10:57 PM
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I've explained my view on this here
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 10:25 PM
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So does a girl dreaming that her companion for the night might one day ask her to marry him. The point is feeling it, however false you know it to be, is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 06:15 PM
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Just because Eastern Europe doesn't have SJW style feminism, doesn't mean their women are less "strong and independent" shall we say.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 05:46 PM
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My dad has a lot of experience with prostitutes and he says it's surprisingly not uncommon for people to hire them and then just chat with them sometimes. There's lots of lonely people out there for whom sex really isn't enough. Any hooker worth her salt makes you feel wanted and cared for. That's why it's kind of worse than it sounds, it's not just sex - it's lies too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 05:43 PM
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Don't forget women who get drunk to give themselves the courage to get laid. Plenty of women deliberately get drunk in order to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 05:39 PM
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I'm not red pill but the question could probably equally apply to my worldview. I don't understand how programming computers or being a librarian are mutually exclusive to "submitting to a man" - but if she doesn't like the idea of marriage in general then I'd be proud if my daughter became a nun.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 05:21 PM
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I don't regret it at all. My life is great now and I can't envision it being any better if I'd had a bunch of boyfriends in school - I liked being aloof in those days - I was a totally horrible person, took lots of drugs, hated humanity - but I enjoyed it. I was joking around. My husband is basically the only person I ever trusted enough to get close to and I am happy with that. Boys from school don't even come close.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 05:18 PM
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The most beautiful face I've ever seen. More conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 05:13 PM
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Maybe it's because I grew up in a rural area, but even the teenage girls where I lived pretty much paired up with people who were, uh, aesthetically challenged. Like the most attractive boys - and I admit part of this might have been because I liked the whole goth/industrial look in those days, were all single because they looked "weird" to most of the girls and the boys with girlfriends were all farmers (note the chubbier ones) or townies (these ones tended not to be so chubby, but also, not ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 05:07 PM
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Unless he lives in Hollywood or something he can easily get away with far higher body fat levels and do fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 04:51 PM
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Of all the guys I knew to have cheated on their wives or live in girlfriends the vast m majority were pug ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 04:45 PM
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I agree. Women used to be raised to think that men are superior (in some places of the world, that's still the case). The one doesn't necessarily follow from the other. Personally I don't think women should have the vote but not because I think men are "superior".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 10:40 AM
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Oops forgot the context. Well I don't think we've got clear ideas what "most" women want. Most women in Saudi didn't want the vote, pre-suffragettes in the West too. Women don't always want what they are supposed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 11:29 PM
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The question was about how I'd feel. Since I'm not Indian the domestic affairs of the Indian state are none of my business. I assumed the question refers to a government under which I have to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 11:05 PM
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Trans women are women from birth, they are just misidentified at birth as male You could maybe say they've got a form of intersex where the ambiguity is only present in the brain but you can't really claim they were always women. People are whole bodies not just their brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:50 PM
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And most women would prefer all women in govt. to all men. I'd much prefer all men, as a woman. I never got why I should care if some woman other than me has power rather than some man other than me. In general I find men more magnamonious so I think I'd favour the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:44 PM
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I would find it very hard to respect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:44 PM
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Ultimately if you have sex you can get (someone) pregnant, sexuality is destabilising in many ways, especially casual sex, to the social fabric, and as such there is a generalised taboo around sexuality that still today comes into play in these subjects. Friendship lacks that taboo quality and (unless of an unsually intense variety) the dangers of unrestrained sexuality to the social fabric, no-one thinks in and of itself a particular friendship (absent abusive qualities) can be bad or dangerous…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:35 PM
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In my university most of the women were sexually active but they were with one or two boyfriends over the whole 3 years, not lots and lots of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:25 PM
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It depends what you want out of life. I am happier being a woman because I am a pretty relaxed person, not strongly driven or achievement focused. I don't have to worry about balancing a career and family, I pick family. I don't have to worry about my relationships being torn apart because one of us got a job on the other side of the country from the other one - I'll live wherever my husband needs to live. If I was ambitious and driven I think being a woman would be a lot more complicated than b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:26 PM
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In the 14th century you didn't even need a priest to get married, you could literally declare your intent to marry and exchange rings in an entirely private way (no witnesses). Witnesses and priests got involved later because people were "marrying", getting a woman knocked up and then claiming they never married her in the first place. Either way, expense was not an issue prior to the council of trent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 11:31 AM
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It's pretty easy to avoid Instagram, I've not looked at it in what seems like over 5 years. I think the most obvious "rub in face" is adverts. Even then, you don't need tv and magazines which seem like the main source of advert exposure (besides the internet - but blocking online ads is pretty easy). I guess also women in real life dressing like whores. I guess the only way to avoid that is to avoid women which probably is self defeating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 11:27 AM
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Ah but in those days there were other distortions in the sexual marketplace. Besides the popularity of monasticism there was also the fact that lots of women (1 in 7 iirc) died in childbirth (across classes - this is important because men mainly died in battle from the upper class in those days, lower class men avoided it - and cross class relationships were very heavily sanctioned especially for men). These women's husbands would take on the younger women as wives leaving less for the young men…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 11:22 AM
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We all have opinions, some right, some wrong on that, but we can only really be held responsible for a) trying to get our opinions right and b) living up to the opinions we hold. Ignorance is not a defence in the law, but it covers a multitude of sins.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 11:16 AM
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I think it's everyone's place to guard the morality of the public.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 01:14 AM
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I don't think anyone should have casual sex, if he doesn't like that he can disregard it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:51 PM
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Nah man, people in the past were pretty pragmatic about that kind of thing. Plus confession negates the need for indulgence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:51 PM
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I'd try and veer him away from casual sex, but I'd be happy to help him try and get a girlfriend. I doubt my advice would be that great though because I'm weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:46 PM
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Not all women are like that. All this is, is a reason to not marry a woman like that. Most women like that will be quite honest if you ask them early in a relationship before they are too attached "do you think a mother should put her kids before her husband" in some way, maybe best using an example that makes her sound altruistic for doing so. Then if she answers yes, you know she's going to do that and can avoid marrying her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 11:30 AM
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Faking orgasms is really a bad way to deal with this, if a woman is too immature to explain to her partner that what he is doing isn't working for her and to try something different or explore a bit then she shouldn't be having sex at all. And if a man is too immature to explore and play around when a woman doesn't immediately succumb to his efforts to pleasure her instead of going off in a strop thinking it's an affront to his masculinity that she's not squealing like a pig, then neither should…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 11:27 AM
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Remember to include the fact she's aspergic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 11:33 PM
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Probably wouldn't work. She's famous now. Could try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 08:11 PM
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Hardly the ugliest woman in the world but Susan Boyle
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 07:49 PM
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They feel guilt precisely because they don't want to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 09:24 AM
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Yeah but we're not talking about Mark Zuckerburg, we're talking about an Earl or something. That's the old money part, your kids are going to be in his distinguished lineage and have all the status and privileges that come with that, the eldest son is going to get a title, that's well worth dealing with a bit of social awkwardness (which anyway will diminish as you get to know the guy). And the upper class teach their children how to dress, this isn't some guy who exploited nerds in college to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 09:39 PM
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If he is rich and old money he will know how to dress which is half of your appearance covered.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 07:52 PM
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every white person I know has been to Machu Picchu I have failed at being white :(
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 06:40 PM
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I have no sisters but I am one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 05:39 PM
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Probably pretty successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 05:38 PM
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Never met one but I never saw the appeal. I've never been a sporty person either so I doubt we'd have much in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 05:20 PM
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Rich, old money, polite and eccentric? If I wasn't married I'd be pretty smitten by that. But such a man would be waaay out of my league.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 05:14 PM
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Why do you think that, there's never been any indication that they have a bad marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 05:13 PM
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Bet his wife does.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 05:03 PM
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Dunno, probably depends how old you are... More than 3 a decade?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 11:01 AM
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I don't know who those guys are, but if all women like is muscular model like men, why do girls (even now long after his suicide) pee their pants over the likes of Richey Edwards?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 08:45 PM
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I've felt a desire to help people I am not leading on who describe the same predicament, but I don't want to fuck them, I want to be able to help them without having to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 08:43 PM
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Well that was depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 06:27 PM
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I really cannot understand the appeal of Tinder. Just go outside, talk to people, get some hobbies, volunteer. No-one needs this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 03:38 PM
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In the uk I never really noticed dating being a thing. Also when I was growing up I had no interest in boys, I looked down on other girls for being interested in boys. My school councillor thought I might be a lesbian but I wasn't interested in girls either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 03:31 PM
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In the 1600s in England despite an average marriage age of 30 (due to a social convention that a couple must be financially able to set up household when they marry and poor economic conditions) there was remarkably little illegitimacy considering the lack of viable contraception. If it had just been lots of shotgun weddings then you'd have seen the average marriage age decrease. People did managed to be chaste until remarkably late in life when society encouraged it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 03:25 PM
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Both me and my husband have had two partners (each other included). I don't think I'd be that weirded out if he had more, but I'd want to be told a good story about it (why it happened, why things are different now etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 03:08 PM
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What is handsome? My mum always liked chubby guys, all my friends had different tastes, a lot of women aren't keen on a lot of muscles and some like insane grotesque amounts of muscles. There is a lot of variation there. And you're kidding yourself if you think everyone on ladyboners is a woman too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 03:02 PM
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Most people don't tend to do things that make them unhappy. Ha!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:45 AM
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This arrangement is simply what makes most women and men happiest and fits their preferences. Men want to lead, women don't. Agree. In my observation of people I have known women kind of crave to have someone ...almost "own" them - not in a materialistic kind of way, but to belong to someone, to give themselves away to someone and be kept by them. They might never find someone they think "worthy" of that, but deep down they crave it. To be honest, when I say women want this - I am not sure it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:39 AM
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No-one considers people like Rosie O Donnell "hot" and if they say that it is purely out of pity and condescension and everyone - her, the audience, everyone - knows it. It would be like telling a fat 15 year old boy with severe acne and one of those stupid peach fuzz mustaches that he is "hot" - ain't no-one believe that shit, not him, not anyone watching - it's condescension.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:25 AM
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Women get a significant SMV advantage over men in their 20s but flame out by their 30s. Well I think the fact that all tv has to be "sexy" is kind of sad. Whenever I watch American tv it's ridiculous, everyone is beautiful, it seems absurd - when you go down the street is everyone beautiful? Nope. But watch a tv show about a street and everyone except maybe token ugly guy is beautiful. Then you watch something like the Waltons - and suddenly you get to see more "normal" looking people, with wrin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:21 AM
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Women are a tornado of emotions and insecurities. As was ever man I have ever met. Come on lets cut the crap, people are mostly fucked up, confused, wandering around like headless chickens looking for meaning and identity in a universe silent to their pain. Men and women alike. That's why we love each other really, because we can meet and realise we're not alone, there is an other and that other is in so many ways the same - like a funhouse mirror, different, but... recognition!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:15 AM
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You seem reasonable Alas I am also all too human :P
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:12 AM
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Look I am telling you whenever I hear about someone's pain I feel an urge to help. This is just human. No-one likes to see another human being in pain and it hurts us to know that we can't do anything about it. But these days we live in such big cities, suffering everywhere, suffering on the tv both fake and real, and people are mostly worn out from it and numb themselves. They wouldn't have to numb themselves if there was nothing there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:06 AM
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The people who post on lady boners are a small subset of women, women do not all agree what makes a guy hot, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:03 AM
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Felt. In my teens I experienced the whole beta orbiter phenomenon people talk about, and although at first I didn't understand, after the first time I figured it out. I felt guilty every time, but I didn't want to give up the attention I was getting so pretended I didn't notice their obvious infatuation with me in hope that if I couldn't "see" it it wasn't my fault for leading them on. As I got older I realised I can't deal with the cognitive dissonance of that so I just quit talking to men (unt…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 11:21 PM
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Apparently, women become extremely angry when asked about their reasons for rejecting a man. I think that's because half the time we have no idea ourselves what we find attractive. It clearly doesn't easily reduce to obvious stuff like how muscular, jaw shape etc - two men, similar features, but one is interesting and the other meh.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 11:18 PM
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how come group X criticises group Y for their extremists but whenever group Y criticises group X they say "you're only focusing on the radicals" Humans gonnna human.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 11:13 PM
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Your own mother? Man, I am pretty sure if my kids committed genocide I'd still be there for them, they're still my kids, whatever they done.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 11:09 PM
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No. There is no guilt. Well from personal experience I can say that is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 11:05 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:24 PM
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Well if you're worried you can check for a hymen... but anyway, 30s is too old for a woman to be marrigable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:59 PM
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Stricter churches mostly. Even there you won't find all the single girls are virginal, but there will be a fair few who are and many of them will still go to college.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:47 PM
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If you move in the right social circles it's not that hard to find, minus the Asian.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:02 PM
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It doesn't sound appealing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:47 PM
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Its such a ridiculous hypothetical. Criminal is binary anyway, if it's illegal it's criminal, if it's not, it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 01:12 PM
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They lived in a culture (mostly) that cuts peoples balls off to make them better slaves. Life was brutal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 09:38 AM
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I swap between INTP and INFP depending on my mood. But I think it's the "J" part not the T/F part that guides your thought process here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 10:18 PM
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A different worldview altogether as a result of living entirely different life experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 10:12 PM
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I'm talking when you read stuff by them or meet them, not just going about your day musing about how sad it is for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 10:01 PM
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You don't register the deep loneliness and insecurity these guys express and feel a desire to ease that pain?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 09:55 PM
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When he is still young enough that he hasn't got used to living alone and without having to make compromises around living with someone. And when he is old enough to be able to deal with the responsibility of a lifelong commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 09:54 PM
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Groupies are trashy people, anyone could have told you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 09:49 PM
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Bout the time when the guy I chatted casually to on MSN who lived on the other side of the world sent me some handwritten poems and about 50 rose petals (I was 17 or so). Awkward...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 09:26 PM
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Looked at the first few posts on there and I am not seeing what is so bad about them...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 09:08 PM
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They are if there is a social narrative backing them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 09:02 PM
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Don't be ragging on eunuchs, there's plenty of accomplished eunuchs relative to the small number of them around
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 07:43 PM
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No. It's going to go one of two ways, he invites her into his bed, she says yes and feels bad or he invites her into his bed and she says no and they both feel bad. Why set yourself up to feel bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:37 PM
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You think the men in the ugly couples you see in the supermarket have status, wealth, dominance? I'll bet most of them live on benefits or low wage work, have very little social status or dominance. I feel like there is a whole world of well below average people who are making do and getting by without worrying about any of this stuff, but I don't know how they do it. Part of me thinks it's low literacy rates, they don't go online a lot because their reading skills are poor, so they actually soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:22 PM
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That's weird, a 4'11 woman is not even going to be able to kiss a 6'6 guy :/ Have you thought of moving somewhere with a lower average height?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:17 PM
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My husband is overweight, not obese, but he's got the ol' beer belly thing going on, and I think he still looks amazing with his beard. It makes him look kind of regal to me. I always thought beards looked better on men (through my 20s, I'm 29 now - I didn't really have any interest in men's appearance in my teens) - a man isn't a man without a beard, he looks like a boy. But as for other women, I'd imagine teenagers prefer people without beards because teenage girls tend to be attracted to more…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:14 PM
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Well I can't deny that women like tall guys. It does suck because it's not something you can change - but generally the most important thing is to be taller than her. I take it you're not shorter than all the women around?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:08 PM
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Yeah but your average wifebeater doesn't have confidence, the opposite, he's usually terminally insecure (and pretty obviously so). He's always accusing his wife of cheating, worrying what she is up to during the day, panicking that she is going to leave and thinking if he puts the fear into her it will stop her. That's not the tell of a confident man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:06 PM
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It's weird that you don't encounter it more because facial hair is the height of fashion right now. Half the guys on magazine covers have beards now, loads of beard barbers, beard oil shops and all sorts are popping up everywhere... it's becoming really hip.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:03 PM
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I see lots of ugly couples when I go shopping. Sometimes I think, how in the hell, what do either of them see in each other, but somehow they did and got together and are walking hand in hand at the supermarket. It seems way more prevalent than the internet makes out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 05:00 PM
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I get not being that into video games but hating them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:48 PM
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That's why they abhor facial hair. Wat. I have had to beg my husband not to shave off his beard when his mum thought he had to be clean shaven for job interviews.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:44 PM
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Where do you go to college that there are a substantial number of male models for women to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:43 PM
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I don't think celebrities can be used to define what wife beaters are normally like (also wot no Charles Satchii, he's gotta be way more alpha than those losers :P). Statistically they're mostly poor alcoholics with a lot of stress and poor self control. They're mostly not rich famous guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:36 PM
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I've had them a few times, but most months I didn't. My biggest period problem was not being able to use tampons due to my weird shaped hymen. Pads are super uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:30 PM
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You seem a bit obsessed with fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:23 PM
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Periods made you resent your vagina? When I got my period it made me feel all grown up. I was secretly kind of proud.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:20 PM
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Most wifebeater types are bottom of the barrel kind of guys, insecure, needy, low socioeconomic class, problems with self control etc. They're hardly "alpha".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:16 PM
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I know that a lot of people will be riled up by this, but I think this is one of the reasons we need God. There is always a witness, you can lie to yourself but you can't lie to God and just knowing that makes it a little harder to lie to yourself (although humans are so adept at lying to themselves that it "a little harder" is still pretty easy).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:04 PM
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I thought I was responding to something about men's expectations. I assumed there were enough me-like girls around that men aren't going to assume that a kiss is inevitable at the end of a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 03:59 PM
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Well that's the thing, if she wanted to be his girlfriend she already would be most likely. She is looking for ways to get out of having to feel bad that it's not what she wants and dehumanising the poor guy in question and devaluing his pain is her ticket to not feeling bad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 03:57 PM
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You wouldn't ever see this part as a low value male because it would all happen in her head and the only thing she'd actually express would be her rationalisations.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 03:56 PM
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I am pretty sure it's a human trait rather than a specifically female one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 01:03 PM
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what's the point of empathizing? Everyone likes to feel acknowledged? Even if it won't help in the long term it's a breath of fresh air.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 12:25 PM
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I disagree. They might not be able to sympathise (having never been in the position they cannot really understand it) but they can empathise (recognise pain when they see it and feel pain in response).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 12:10 PM
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I'm talking here specifically about guys who feel bitter that despite being nice has not had any success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 12:07 PM
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When I was younger I hated identity politics because I believed it distracted the proletariat from their real struggle against their bourgeois masters. I also had quite a bit of contempt for other women than myself. Now? I'm pretty reactionary. This happened more than anything because I got into the whole idea that organic systems matter and came to the belief that social structures that develop naturally are better than ones that are engineered. I don't mind adult women, I realise a lot of my e…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 11:12 AM
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Friends in the sense of hang out in a group, have group conversations, do stuff as a group yes. Friends as in hang out alone together, have intimate conversations, do stuff together alone - nah, I mean it's technically possible, but the danger is always there that you're leading the guy on so it's best to just never have that kind of friendship with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 08:16 AM
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Repressive?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 09:29 PM
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Well yeah. I agree. I meant ease in a legal sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 08:20 PM
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Is that really so weird?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 07:53 PM
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I felt the same before I became a Christian.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 07:31 PM
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Because we have a culture of disposability and discontent that applies sadly as much to husbands as it does to phones.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 07:24 PM
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Some people are shyer than others. I'd never feel comfortable kissing someone until I'd known them at least a few months.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 07:21 PM
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Are we talking micropenis here or just a little bit small? People with a micropenis are probably best looking for love/sex in niche markets, but I wouldn't think it's impossible. If you can hint that because of the small penis you've learned how to satisfy a woman in "other ways" - I reckon there's plenty of women who'd be intrigued by that. Just a bit below average - don't worry about it, it's not that big a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 07:01 PM
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If a woman is going on a 1-on-1 date with a man, should she assume that he is probably wanting to kiss or make out with her on the date? First date? I wouldn't think so. Later on depends how the relationship is progressing. If a man asks a woman to come back to his place after a date, should she be ready for the possibility of him wanting sex? Should she go back to his place with him if she has no intention of having sex with him? Yes a woman who doesn't want sex should not go home with a man af…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:56 PM
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Very few people are actually average. But again, what (specifically, not just "has downs") makes it inapplicable here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:47 PM
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Let's say I want my son to be a PGA tour golf player, just like tiger woods. As long as he has two arms and legs, and no chronic medical conditions, if he starts at the age of 3 or 4 playing golf and practicing, he has the potential to become a PGA player. Whether or not that potential actually becomes an ability, is out of his hands. I don't know much about golf, so maybe it's different than a lot of things, but most stuff people aspire to involves being genetically suited to those things as we…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:46 PM
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This is not that unusual in modern Britain. Several of the children in the special needs class I volunteered in already had boyfriends/girlfriends. The downs kids were some of the more functioning children there (although there was a downs boy there who had a deformity in his throat that made communication physically difficult for him which I found really tragic). I've seen them in town when I visited my parents a few times - they're never going to have real (not sheltered workshop type) work, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:37 PM
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Lol, she is clearly enjoying her spanking, that's nothing like "beating someone up".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:29 PM
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No-one has that...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:24 PM
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My parents coven had a prominent member with an autistic daughter (non verbal, masturbated constantly in public level autism). I saw her struggle a lot, and I wouldn't enjoy that life. Although I think there is clearly a range of levels of disability, a child that can talk, live in a group home when they are an adult, interact with others and form relationships to help them survive after I am gone? Honestly seems like it wouldn't be so bad. I volunteered at the special needs centre at my seconda…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:23 PM
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I guess because I did compsci the only girls I knew in college (literally in a year group of many hundreds there were 3 girls) were people I met at church and they're probably a very specific group.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:14 PM
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Big problem with polygamy is less the nagging (most countries that practice it are also fine with smacking them if they get uppity) and more the fighting between them. If you're really high status they might even murder each others children to ensure that theirs is the heir. It gets messy. My mum says she'd like it, but I bet she is imagining some fantasy co-wives and not the crazy women that my dad would no doubt go for just so long as they have red hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:10 PM
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If the "asset" was a person, that would be true, but the asset is not a person, but the relationship and everything that is built around the relationship (financially, socially and biologically). The person is your business partner who invests with you in the relationship. They are a person not an asset, someone you trust to go into business with, enjoy the company of enough to live and work with day to day, and are attracted to enough to share a bed with (since that is a fundamental part of thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:08 PM
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I don't think he's "feminised", just lazy. More Wives, more problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 05:53 PM
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I'd rather have a lifetime of commitment with a 6 than an unlimited number of casual encounters with 10s. A casual encounter is like spending money, a lifelong commitment is an investment in the future. Spending money is fun, but in the long run the investment is a much better bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 05:46 PM
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1) They don't have the mentation or executive functioning of adults I don't see how this is that relevant since most of TRP stuff is about female instincts not their intellectual rationalisations of those instincts. 2) They don't experience the world the same way non Down people do In what particular way? How does this override their sexual instincts? 3) They aren't in the SMP and RMP the way non Down people are They may not be in the same SMP and RMP, but they are in a SMP and RMP. They go to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 05:39 PM
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Even in university I found it was fashionable. (or do you mean college age and above?)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 05:29 PM
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Cooking and crafty housekeeping stuff is really fashionable these days. I find it strange you can't find any girls into that kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 05:20 PM
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Interestingly this is one place the EU is being consistent. Car insurance basing prices on gender is illegal. Car insurers get around the law by assuming gender based on occupation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 05:15 PM
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My mum said yesterday (because my dad had been staying the night with this woman that mum thinks he fancies but he totally doesn't) "I wouldn't mind being part of a harem, share the workload with other women, have camaraderie with them. I told dad "heh, you need to get yourself some more wives" - he doesn't seem that into the idea though. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 05:13 PM
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secretly have sex with a gorgeous celebrity of your choice and no one will ever find out or have everyone think you had sex with said gorgeous celebrity even though you didn’t and never will? Horrible dilemma, actually break my marriage vows or have everyone (including my husband I presume) think I did? I guess I'd have to go with the second option, but :( have sex with two 7s or have sex with one 10? (In b4 'There's no such thing as a 10', substitute 'That Girl', you know the one, the person yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 04:07 PM
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The way she looks at him on the bus, like he's the most amazing guy in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 04:01 PM
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Yeah, after watching this I said to my husband I'd be ok with it if our kid had down's syndrome. He agreed. (My mum on the other hand? Oy vey!)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 03:53 PM
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And most of those people in their 50s and 60s have been married at least 30 years. They married in the late 70s and early 80s, to people they were sexually attracted to (at least some), and well before hookup and divorce culture really took hold. Divorce really kicked off in the 70s. As for casual sex, again, the 70s and 80s were when casual sex was really becoming common. Millennials have lower n-counts than their generation did at the same age. I'd also guess that you don't really know what go…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 03:48 PM
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All I can say, completely anecdotally, is all the older people (50s and 60s and up) I know still married to their first spouse, seem to be pretty happy. They dote on each other, smile and joke together, make lewd comments for one another, they seem attached, deeply so. Of the people I knew at school only my parents are still married though. My parents had one hell of a rough patch, and some of the factors you mention are involved in their staying together (namely - financial, children) - maybe w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 03:31 PM
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Given the ease of divorce I can't see why the largely secular public would cling on against the grain unless they were pretty satisfied with their marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 03:14 PM
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Even if the 50% of marriages end in divorce thing is true, that's 50% that don't. Half the men that get married have wives who don't get bored and run off with some chad. More when it comes to first marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 03:01 PM
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Couple in the video seem more like normal people. I mean that girl is a downs model. To even want to be a model you have to have specific kind of personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 01:49 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 01:42 PM
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Young men are cute. Older men are captivating. Old men are sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 12:56 PM
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I think that phenomenon is because of female neoteny more than anything. Women look childlike so the protective instinct toward children gets applied to them. I don't think in the case of very fat or masculine looking women it applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 12:55 PM
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So what you are saying is a man doesn't want to be loved by a woman, he wants women in general to love men in general? Maybe the disconnect works both ways then. I don't want my husband to love women in general, I want him to love me, to elevate me above other women by selecting me and not other women to be his. I always assumed that is also what men wanted from women, to be chosen, to be "the man" not just "a man"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 12:21 PM
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I pretty much agree with all of this except that I don't think the loss of the female role has been good for anyone but upper middle class women (who have all the opportunities for "self actualisation" in terms of career that were never really available to men or women from lower classes). For the rest of us self-actualisation was always going to be through other things, hobbies, relationships, charitable work and so on and all these things have been available to women long before the dissolutio…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:50 AM
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People say millionaire like that means "rich". Being a millionaire is pretty achievable for a middle class person over a lifetime, it's not super impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:41 AM
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Pedophile priests are about in line percentagewise as pedophile teachers, camp leaders etc. Basically pedophiles seek out jobs that give them access to children away from their parents, including but hardly limited to in churches.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:35 AM
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Honestly I look down on people who have plastic surgery. I know "judge not lest ye be judged" and all that - but I am not perfect either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:33 AM
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Are you going to call her a slut because she went along with it? If it happens once, maybe not, if it happens 3, 4, 5, 10 times?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:31 AM
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I am sure most men would enjoy them more too to be honest because everything else has been vocationalised to the point that it's mostly a form filling exercise around "targets" and has very little to do with intellectual development anymore (because the focus isn't on intellectual development, rather professional development which is something totally different).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:25 AM
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Identity politics is what happens when individualism is popularised and taken up by the mass man. He can't really be the "great man of genius" of 19th century individualism. All he can do is detach himself from all the roles and relationships that bind him, however unoppresively. In the case of feminism, this means poisoning the relation between man and woman, the source of almost all natural bonds in society (that is the bonds of the family) and "freeing" themselves from all the strictures of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 09:34 PM
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Feminism is caused by the ideology of individualism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 09:22 PM
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I've never met someone who actually cares about this kind of issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:55 PM
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Sure, but in terms of the distribution of resources (funding, highly demanded places on courses etc) it's not the best bet. I think the government shouldn't fund it, but if a woman can pay (or her parents) for it, then that's their prerogative.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:30 PM
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Even in terms of a 40hr work week, women with children reduce their hours while men with children do the reverse. As a social investment the man's education is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:14 PM
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"Ultimate sacrifice"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 05:45 PM
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If you are lucky and not congenitally damaged one day you will recognise your folly. Until then I've said my piece.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:13 PM
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I am most men. Do you honestly believe most men are interested in raising children when they could be out having fun? Yes. I have spoken to lots of men over the years about their dreams and aspirations in life and the vast majority of them have aspired to a stable long term relationship and at least half to a family with children. Most births must be a result of the women tricking the guy into fatherhood. Women can easily stop taking a pill and bam, ''ops darling I got pregnant, it must be fate'…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 02:55 PM
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I have no interest in having children. I'm not interested in having a family. I'm not interested in having a relationship. The women I'm attracted to are not the relationship-type. And they've dumped guys who were perfect. You are not most men. ahaha, there is no such thing as decadence. There is only the fulfillment of the senses. That is the purpose of life. To enrich ourselves, to saturate ourselves with pleasure,. Every scientific study on the matter, as well as the wisdom of all religions, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 02:20 PM
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Because if you get women to sleep with you for free - and if they are hot - it means that you are better than the rest of the men. It means women are sexually attracted to you. Guys who pay for it go the easy way to get ''sex''. So what you are saying is that you are not actually interested in having sex at all. You are just playing a game of status competition with other men that happens to be based around sex but could equally well be based around getting rich or wearing the trendiest clothes …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 02:08 PM
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High end prostitutes don't count as sex. Why not? What difference does it make if you paid them in compliments/alcohol/attention or money? I have friends of mine who work as escorts and they only sleep with men they are attracted to. I'm sure that's what they told you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 01:43 PM
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They just do because they don't have any other means of getting pussy. That's frankly nonsense, even high end prostitutes are cheaper than looking after a family over a lifetime, and they are not picky about their customers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 12:44 PM
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Your misandry is showing. I talk to people in the real world so your twisted views of mankind are not very convincing. If you've convinced yourself of them mores the pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 12:35 PM
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The guy I have the most insight to is my husband. He clearly had a strong drive for a close, ongoing, relationship for a woman and found himself feeling validated and happier in having one. Most of the men I have interacted with also seem to have this drive. I have met very few men who actually just want to fuck and that's the end of it, even the ones that do that seem to want a woman of their own and the fucking around is just a thing they're doing to kill time (or impress other men) while wait…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 12:24 PM
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That's bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 12:21 PM
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So tell me again why any guy should bother with a chick who doesn't put out instantly lol. Well in the end what you want to do is your problem. I am married so it's not an issue for me on a personal level, I have a husband who I do trust and can have comfortable relations with. I think a life of sin and debauchery will always lead to ruin, even Oscar Wilde repented at the end of his life and joined the Catholic Church. I don't believe men are genuinely happy living like that, from my experience …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 12:20 PM
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Why lie in an anonymous survey?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 12:14 PM
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Because a life of chasing tail is empty and unsatisfying? If I was a man and wary of women I am pretty sure I'd go the MGTOW route over the meaningless sex route, but I'm not so maybe that's my feminine lower libido talking. The whole casual sex thing is totally insane to me, I just can't see what is enjoyable about rubbing your genitals around with a stranger's genitals. I mean, masturbation is a thing, if you need sexual release you don't need some stranger there for that. It seems about as ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 11:58 AM
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My experience approaching men went like this: Approach man expressing my interest in pursuing a romantic relationship. Man enthusiastically agrees, making me nervous, why is he so enthusiastic, do I really want this, oh man this is going too fast, I am not ready for this. Reject guy, feel massively guilty for leading him on and then rejecting him. Never do that again (did it twice :x)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 11:16 AM
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When emotional manipulation, women's modus operandi goes unchallenged, how is a beta safe from abusive women such as this? There are no guarantees, for men or women, that their partner won't turn abusive, but there are things you can do early in a relationship to screen for it. Find out about their past relationships if they have any, not from them, but from their friends, family - better yet their exs. If they abused them in any way you can take that as a serious risk factor. They might have gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 10:55 AM
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Every survey I looked up (try googling it yourself - there's tonnes of them and they all come up with different numbers) had male count higher than female. But none of that can be understood without the standard deviations. I just read one placing the overall average at 10 partners. Even that seems astonishing to me. I feel like if you like 10 people enough to sleep with them you should have picked one to settle down with before you reach 10...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 10:35 AM
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I never got the idea that privilege was something to be ashamed of. Having privilege is great, although better yet if you have the magnanimity to use your advantages for the betterment of others. But people lament and gnash their teeth about it as if it's a horrible thing. Like imagine if people did that with ...I dunno, intelligence. Intelligence is a major competitive advantage, its mostly heritable so you didn't earn it or anything, but at least for now there's no intelligence shaming. Privil…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 12:06 AM
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Its clear in my experience that tastes vary from liking the very thin to the fairly chubby. Few like the genuinely morbidly obese without some feeder fetish though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 11:46 PM
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in the past the average life expectancy only hovered around 35 years old. When exactly in the past are you talking about? Anyway most low life expectancy is due to infant and childhood mortality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 05:14 PM
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I think a lot of women have wasted time and money on educations that they don't really need, but I don't see not wasting that time and money as "limiting". I also think education (higher) is a good place to meet a good husband for a woman. Personally I think women are better off doing artistically/aesthetically minded degrees, they will enjoy them more, it will give them something in depth to talk about and stimulate their mind, but it's never going to be an entryway into a highly paid career. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 04:04 PM
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Why do so many men apart from you (maybe not even the majority of men overall, but enough to be a substantial set of voices), here and elsewhere, seem to have very different relationships with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 03:59 PM
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Cook less calorific food. What would you do if they were unwilling to lose the weight? Would you break up? No. I'd try and encourage them to be more active though, and like I said, cook better food. Like I'd frame it as "lets do this fun thing" not "you need to do this because it will help with your weight problem".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 11:24 AM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0345d6w Unfortunately you can't watch it on there anymore, but this was played in my friends kid's PSHE lesson. You might be able to find it somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 11:20 AM
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...there's another reason you seem to be overlooking. It's cold. Even thick leg hair isn't going to be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 11:19 AM
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Literally this exact example was used to teach teenagers about British rape law.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 11:12 AM
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I got to keep stuff people were trying to steal from me, and I got a bunch of children mocking me for months. Consequences were way less than DV. If it happened in a context where someone I loved could get hurt I'd be waay more worried. Also I sleep much more these days than in those days (as a teenager I kind of felt that sleep was a "waste" of time) so I think that has a big effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 11:11 AM
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Simply because it's far more common in nature. I've seen a lot of interviews with women in these kind of relationships and there seems to be a certain kind of woman who is completely content with them (although there never seems to be an end to squabbling over who is the "favourite"). The cultures that have these relationships do also seem to contain a group of women not willing to accept them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 09:54 AM
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No I didn't. I said the girls testimony and the text would probably be sufficient to get a conviction. The text shows he knows she didn't really want it, corroborating her testimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 09:19 AM
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If it was true it might be logical, but clearly most everyday dangerous situations are within the bounds of female capacity to handle. That said as I get older I much prefer being escorted by my husband when I go places.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 11:44 PM
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would the pro choice crowd be for removing the fetus from the mother and growing it outside the womb if it was possible I'm pro-life and I think it would probably be damaging to the child, but I think even with imperfect technology it would be far preferable to abortion though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 10:30 PM
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Well it has only happened those three times. I'm not too worried.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 10:24 PM
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I'd imagine not just person to person but situation to situation too. One time when I was 18 and sleep deprived I had a balloon at school and some kid about 6 years younger than me or something burst it and I blacked out from the shock of the noise and anger and started pummelling her with my fists. She was so not hurt that she laughed. When I came to I realised what I was doing and I was torn between trying harder (because I really wanted to hurt her) and stopping because what the hell - why am…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 09:31 PM
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No I am a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 09:24 PM
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Rape covers a lot more things than just walking down the street and getting attacked. Even that is an extreme example. All I meant by "once it's over it's over" is that the rape does have an end, all the rest is mental, some people handle that better than others, some people aren't bothered, some people are severely traumatised, some people are deeply ashamed and some people are angry, but it's all a reaction at that point. Being a non-custodial parent isn't something internal, it's an ongoing i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 09:23 PM
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You think losing access to your children is just "material"? I am pregnant right now and if I was told that if I didn't have sex with someone against my will the kid would be taken away at birth - I'd have sex with them. That's my child. To feel like I had abandoned it, that I couldn't protect it, that it was growing up somewhere else and no-one is telling it how much it's mother loves it - is way more traumatic than not being in control of my body. I can disassociate from my body without guilt …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 09:08 PM
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No view to change then really :P
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 09:01 PM
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Probably not always, but I literally wasn't in control of myself at that point in time. Something primal took over. It's kind of scary, makes me worry if I got really angry I could do something stupid in a fuge.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 09:00 PM
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I am not saying the effects of the experience don't linger (moreso if you have psychotherapy for it oddly enough) but the experience itself is over. That's simply not the case for a non-custodial parent, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 08:53 PM
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Men are more likely and non-custodial parents significantly more likely to be depressed after a divorce, that could easily edge it toward equivalent frequency.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 08:45 PM
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PTSD can only be diagnosed in the case of a physical trauma not an emotional one so it's hardly a fair question. Severe depression and anxiety is pretty common in the aftermath of a divorce though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 08:09 PM
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Are you asking would I rather be raped by a man or divorced by a woman? Well on the plus side as a woman I couldn't have children with a woman so the divorce would be less acrimonious than one with children. But if we're imagining the whole child loss scenario? I'd way rather be raped than lose my children or have infrequent contact with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 08:05 PM
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It sounds hypothetical. Do you believe that most women automatically freeze up in response to dangerous situations in all contexts?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 07:23 PM
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Male on male crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 07:20 PM
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Lets say someone comes to rob you. If you actually fight back,chances are the thief will kill you, while if you shut up and do what the man with the gun says, you might actually survive. I've been mugged twice and fought back both times (pure adrenaline instinct) against attackers who could easily have done serious harm to me. They ran off. Most muggers don't want to hurt you, it's a worse crime then and their dna gets everywhere and the police might actually investigate. If you make it costly f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 07:18 PM
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A man losing money, material possessions, or even access to his children in no way compares to the trauma of a woman having her body violated. I completely disagree with this honestly. Rape lasts a few hours at most, of course there are memories and social stigmas and emotions, but once it's over it's over. Losing the family you have worked for and supported for years, that you imagined you would have for the rest of your life, is a much more traumatic experience because it never ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 07:14 PM
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Do you, in your own opinion believe 1 in 3 women are getting raped or sexually assaulted on college campuses? No 2.Do you believe that the level of activism and prevention around consent culture on college campuses is too extreme, or is excessive compared to the amount of actual sexual assault or rape going on? It's the same ol' student politics that it's been since the 70s. Plus la change. 3.Should an infallible statistic be considered a legitimate representation of the rape and sexual assault …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 07:10 PM
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No, a woman who reports a man for rape and when the police go through his phone find such a text can use it in evidence. There was a BBC show about it to educate teenagers about this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 12:03 PM
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It's one instance and the husbands are all brothers, it's just a way to avoid splitting up scarce fertile land. The rest of the world found primogeniture for that - but most Westerners don't have any land to split up or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 12:02 PM
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Are they conflated, though?. Yes. Legally they are both considered "rape" and is prosecutable as such. A text to a friend after the event of "she wasn't that into it" would along with her testimony probably sufficient to get a conviction. In terms of surveys into rape incidence it's absolutely counted. That's why some statistics come up with such high figures for rape, the violent force version of rape is very rare, but the second kind is common. I don't know about the US (I imagine it depends o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 11:51 AM
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I really think there should be different terminology for the things described as male on female rape: The case where a man forces himself on a woman violently, she struggles, says no, he keeps going anyway. The case where a woman is too shy/scared/ashamed to say no to sex she doesn't really want and the man obliviously or consciously misconstrues this to be consent. They are clearly two totally different things that it seems crazy to conflate in law.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 09:43 AM
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Do you know what they wear under those things, because I assure you their husbands are getting to see a whole other side of them. Most of the women who dress like that are not allowed to talk to a man without a mahram present.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 09:20 AM
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I thought they were going for option 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 09:19 AM
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That something is inside someone's mind doesn't mean it's "unreal" it means it's in their mind. The mind isn't some ethereal thing that doesn't exist in the real world, it's part of the real world and so are it's operations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 09:18 AM
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The vast majority of ill people don't commit suicide, and I wonder if so many would if we lived in a society that was less aggressively individualist and more caring toward the sick. To me the problem in those cases is mostly a) an unwillingness of some prescribers to give enough pain medication because of fears of addiction and b) that we live in a society that tells such people they are a burden due to the worship of "independence" in our individualist culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 09:14 AM
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There are some options for a person in that situation - marry someone infertile or someone with enough money that children can be farmed out to nannies and private schools. But imo the best option is to discover what is wrong that leads to not desiring or at least being willing to have a family and to cure that deficit. All living things are born to reproduce, in the case of mammals to care for their young after doing so. Someone who has written off this idea permanently has something wrong with…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 09:12 AM
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Indeed, but not her physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 12:25 AM
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Found the fatty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 12:21 AM
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Now dress serves a purpose for women to emphasize their attractiveness Well not always...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 12:11 AM
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Why does it matter? Because if women having multiple husbands worked well you'd expect to see it more often in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 11:38 PM
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Clothing is distinctively male or female, but the specific types of clothing aren't. A skirt isn't inherently feminine, but in a specific cultural context it's a marker of femininity. Something being cultural or socially conditioned doesn't make it less real. It just means its relevance is restricted to a particular culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 11:37 PM
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Why in the vast majority of civilisations do you find one of these three situations vis marriage: Promiscuity (multiple changes of partner over a lifetime, low stigma for multiple partners at the same time) Polygyny (men have multiple wives, women cannot have multiple husbands) Monogamy And the case where women have multiple husbands is vanishingly rare?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 11:32 PM
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This kind of thing really goes over my head. Literally why does anyone care. Is it uncomfortable or restrictive to wear a t-shirt? No. So what are they bitching about? It's the most trivial thing. Men might as well be up in arms that it's socially unacceptable for them to wear a hijab.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 10:36 PM
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I think it is problematic. You end up with a lot of single men. If you want to raid your neighbours that might be a good thing (might get some extra wives that way too) but for a complex industrial/post-industrial society it's not really a goer, loads of unattached men will increase crime levels. Women having multiple husbands is a good way to control the population but it's rare in reality for a reason, men are just not likely to be happy in that situation, and where it does happen it tends to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 10:30 PM
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In saying this I am not necessarily recommending approaching strangers as a sexual strategy but the best way to get over anxiety in general is desensitisation. So you start out approaching a girl you're not attracted to, you aren't going to go anywhere with it, but it's just a starting point. Once you are comfortable doing that, kick it up a notch, approach a more attractive person, but don't put much pressure on yourself to succeed, and just keep on raising the stakes until you're asking the gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 08:54 PM
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I don't know much about him but in my brief time on this sub I have found this I see people insult and call Xemnas names but I have never, ever seen him be mean to anyone else, even to the people directly insulting him. to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 07:25 PM
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Yes! Pass on all counts!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 07:17 PM
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Is this video the result of a genuine sexist society against females? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 04:10 PM
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There is a difference between survival and giving your kids the best. It's the difference between food on the table and books in your kid's room. One's needed to survive. The other is to thrive. A person doesn't need to have "the best" to have a life worth living. Someone having a less than ideal life isn't reason to kill them. Actually, your rules fuck over women the most. Women are the ones who are expected to sacrifice careers to care for kids. Not men. Preventing abortions when women need th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 04:03 PM
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That's still less than 80 quid a week. It's not easy to live on that. And you don't get what good is. People do it all the time and their children generally don't think they'd be better off dead. My husband's mother was abused by his father and after she left him they had far less than that, baliffs came round repeatedly, and yet despite all that hardship (including the emotional hardship of watching his mother being beaten!) my husband still is glad to be alive. [also what? less than 80 quid a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 12:06 PM
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Do you seriously think you can raise a kid for around 35 quid a week? I don't think you realise how expensive children are if you want to give a kid the best start in life. You can barely feed that kid and mostly you are getting the kid junk and working under the assumption that you can cook well. You get more than 35 quid a week when you add it all up. Your rent is paid, your council tax is paid, income support + child benefit for a single person with two children is £92.30 which is £369.20 a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 11:52 AM
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If he is Salafi he should probably talk to her parents instead ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 11:16 AM
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Cuckold
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 11:14 AM
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Are you going to feed those kids? Nope. Are you going to guarantee them an excellent life? Nope. Will you be compensating women financially for losing time out to care for a kid they don't want? Even under the tories there are plenty of benefits for women with children in financial hardship. Besides child benefit, child tax credits, housing benefit (if you are overcrowded the council has a duty to find you "suitable" housing) and income support there are also many charities that can help people …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 11:11 AM
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Even bacteria are alive and even within the first few hours after conception a human being is far more complex than a bacterium. By the time it's actually implanted and abortion is even possible significantly more so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 10:23 AM
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I don't have figures for miscarriage, but I concede you're probably right. Which just leaves abortion the biggest preventable cause of death.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 10:13 AM
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Death from all causes (not including abortion since they don't count that as death) in 2010: 493242 Abortions in 2010: 189,574 Total deaths = 189574+493242 = 682,816 189574/682816 * 100 = 27% So in that particular year actually almost 30%
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 10:12 AM
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If those groups have codified legal systems for handling internal disputes and regulating cultural norms I don't see why not. I don't think they do though. Intergroup disputes can be handled by national law, in the Ottoman case they were handled with a bias toward Muslims but there is no reason not to handle them with a bias toward balancing the interests of all communities. Intragroup disputes can be handled by the group themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 10:36 PM
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Don't know about in America but in the UK something like 20% of all deaths every year are aborted children. That makes being killed by an abortion the single biggest cause of death. Doesn't seem like it is that hard to get. According to this 2% of all American women had an abortion in 2008. This is hardly something that they are finding difficult to procure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 10:06 PM
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The Ottoman system where communities largely self govern, the Catholics live by their law, the Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox and Armenians all have their own, the Muslims go to the Sharia courts, the Jews go to the Bet Din. There is a higher law covering the basics and the details and decided by the communities to which they apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 09:34 PM
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Regardless, as long as abortion is legal, then yes I have no qualms with it. Someone could equally well say "as long as divorce rape is legal I have no qualms with it" - but it would be wrong to do so because it's immoral. Modern people don't much care for the idea of morality because it means they can't just follow their whims and feelings instead of aligning themselves against their feelings with morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 09:12 PM
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At what point does a bacterium become a life? It's alive as soon as it exists and in the case of a human being it exists at conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 09:01 PM
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No a specific population of women, probably including women of all attractivenesses who use tinder because the visually based selection process and orientation toward casual relationships suits their pre-existing tendencies. When I was single it really wasn't hard to get an attractive man to come on to me and I am hardly that attractive, always been slightly overweight (was BMI 27 as a teenager and in early 20s), never wore makeup, always wore long skirts and avoided showing skin. It doesn't tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 08:46 PM
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So killing someone is fine as well in your book. Almost all cultures have legal systems of some kind, and have regulated marriage. Look at Sharia courts or the Beth Din.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 08:41 PM
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I have never looked at Tinder and don't intend to start now. I think girls who use Tinder is a specific population who can hardly be said to account for women as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 08:39 PM
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No I am saying some women are more visually oriented than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 07:03 PM
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If you are having sex in your consensually childless marriage, what happens when she gets knocked up anyway? Marriage is intimately intertwined with reproduction. Everyone from sane cultures understands that intuitively. Ours is just blind enough to forget it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 06:38 PM
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I think women actually are attracted particularly by status and the whole physical attractiveness thing just happens to be the way men sort out their status in particular communities (especially now in a shallow media driven age). Women in other communities where say, having tenure is the primary inter-male status competition will be trying to get the guys with tenure or at least on the tenure track. Women in communities where having a tonne of money is the primary inter-male status competition …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 06:32 PM
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No, "Western Elites" fully believe the shit they are selling.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 06:24 PM
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Julius Evola :D
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 06:23 PM
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My husband is a fairly blunt no nonsense type of guy and this kind of stuff is a major problem at his workplace. Women reporting him to HR for hurting their fee fees by saying he doesn't think it's worth getting upset over innocuous comments by security guards and calling them "micro-aggressions". It's enough to make Saudi Arabia seem like it might not be such a bad place to live. I always liked about him that he said what he really thought and didn't tiptoe around it. I don't want those qualiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 06:20 PM
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Obviously if someone is unwilling to have sex with their spouse ever then it's not a marriage! Sex is an integral part of marriage. Josephite marriages (consentually sexless) notwithstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 06:04 PM
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Never?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 04:55 PM
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People can and should be socialised to behave in a way good for them and society even if it doesn't come naturally. People shouldn't be socialised to do destructive things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 03:59 PM
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I honestly wasn't passing value judgement on the phenomenon. "Gold digger" and "shrew" are much more emotionally charged than anything I was trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 03:57 PM
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The loans come with conditions that say if you never earn over the threshold you never pay it back and they will be written off, depending on the specific loan (the conditions changed several times), either after 25 years or when the debtor is 65. British student loans aren't really loans, they're a graduate tax.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:31 PM
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Not too much talking in horticulture. Just fresh air, plants, the sound of birds, the smell of nature, the physical satisfaction of visible accomplishment through hard work and the changing seasons. If we could afford it my husband and I would buy a smallholding and try our hand at permaculture - maybe one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:21 PM
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Personally if I was going to work again, and if I do it won't be until I am in my 50s (after I finish with bringing up children) I would like to do something like horticulture. My brief experience in the workplace has forever tainted me against sitting at a computer for 8 hours a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:12 PM
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Even if women in general prefer doing certain types of work and men in general prefer doing other different types of work? Proportions of them should work doing something unideal for them because it's more "equal"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 11:42 AM
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I guess so. None of the places I've lived (rural to small city) had a lot of office work going, but I imagine things are different in large cities. I do contend that it will be as well as the things you find elsewhere though, not instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 11:38 AM
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14.4% of women overall feel both lonely and depressed which would indicate that getting a degree actually helps. Or suffering from depression makes it harder to succeed in education.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 11:17 AM
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Woman thinks the family doesn't have enough money: nags husband to make more money. Man thinks family doesn't have enough money: works harder/smarter to try and improve his earning potential. Female breadwinner doesn't think family has enough money: works harder and earns more but this increases the status gap between her and her husband which makes her dissatisfied and him insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 10:57 AM
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If you go to the jobcentre there's very little in their computers for office work and the main qualification for what office work there is is SAGE experience. Almost everything is either retail, care workers or construction besides the obviously fake "self employment" opportunities that don't pay actual money. This is where people without degrees are going to be looking for work and these places are not places that are bothered about degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 10:53 AM
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It's really not true, its dependent on the industry. You don't need a degree to work in retail, I've worked in retail fairly recently and they were split pretty 50-50. It's probably easier without now because you can do a fake "apprenticeship" and get paid below minimum wage but only if you don't already have higher education. You absolutely don't need a degree to work in construction. It is probably a hinderance at the lower levels. Childcare, "health and beauty" (not real healthcare!), care as…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 10:36 AM
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highest earning 30-40% of married couples That's really not true for several reasons. Firstly it's not that expensive to have one person work - in fact many of the poorer have no choice because the cost of childcare is far more than the potential earnings of the female partner. Even childcare vouchers and the like do not always manage to make up for it. Secondly even when the woman works she generally earns less and works shorter hours, many families could take advantage of the extra tax allowan…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 10:32 AM
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More than half the working age population is without tertiary education but the percentage of the working age population in work is around 75%. Many of the economically inactive have degrees as well (mostly mothers of young children).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 10:25 AM
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I don't see any reason WHY co-habiting BF/GF should have to pay higher taxes so that co-habiting husbands/wives get a tax break. Because the bastards they will probably accidentally conceive at some point would be better off with married parents, because married parents stay together at statistically far higher rates than cohabiting parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 10:20 AM
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I think it has but I don't think the article is really about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 10:05 AM
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If the woman stays at home and never gets a job earning more than £16-21k (depending when she took out her loan) she never has to pay it back. Why go to university at all if you never intend to get a good job? Where else is a middle class girl meant to find an eligible man? I think of it as fair because the government won't let me share my tax allowance with my husband - if I could do that we'd be 10k better off overnight! 2 and half years of sharing my tax allowance would cover my student loans…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 10:04 AM
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I never wear makeup and when I was young and unattached it didn't seem to cause any problems. Several boys/men told me they preferred it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 07:08 AM
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Pic1 1. Ew. 2. No, he looks like he didn't get enough sleep, is over chiselled and has a chin cleft. Pic2 1. Lol 2. No, he is lying on a bed of fedoras. I hope it's ironic, but it's not attractive. Pic3 1. Beard. 2. Best so far but no. I like the beard but the tattoos and the asymmetry of the muscles are kind of creepy. Pic4 1. He looks happy :) 2. Looking at him makes me happy because he is smiling but it doesn't make me want to have sex. Pic 5 1. Blurry. 2. I am not repulsed by him but still n…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 07:03 AM
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Men and women have lots of differences, but the most important difference in the context of this sub is that the sin that comes easiest to men is lust and the sin that comes easiest to women is pride. Men and women are susceptible to both, but the one they are most susceptible to differs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 06:56 AM
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Maybe you would be better off asking what the women posting and reading that sub have in common. There is phenotypic variation in the female population, maybe some of them have more masculine styles of sexual attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 05:56 AM
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If you're not at least willing to have a child you are not really married. Literally is grounds for an annulment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 05:50 AM
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It's not fucked up. One of the major purposes of marriage is to provide an outlet for sexuality and prevent illicit sexuality. If you deny yourself to your husband/wife and they have a strong sex drive you are inciting them to sin. Imagine if a man with a housewife didn't give her grocery money, he bought food at work and didn't worry about it. She's at home getting hungrier and hungrier - eventually she might shoplift just to get something to eat. It's the same with sex, plenty of people have g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 05:48 AM
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It's a choice to behave animalistically or to bridle pure instinct with virtue. "Breaking out of socialisation" isn't something anyone encourages angry people to do when they want to get revenge on someone, it shouldn't be something horny people are encouraged to do either. Socialisation is what makes civilisation civil. Women as well. I get that the whole reason this exists is women were told first "virtue doesn't matter, you go girl!" but that's a bad thing. Adding to the rot doesn't fix anyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 05:42 AM
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Personally no. I have to ascribe meaning to it before it's attractive. It's a mental thing, if I think about it in a sexual way, it becomes sexual/sexy, but it's a choice to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 09:53 PM
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I'm not in government, I don't work for a think tank, I'm not going to be designing any policies. I am just saying what I think - if you or anyone reading this plans to have sex without a serious plan you could pull off for coping with a child that comes from it, you are taking a massive risk of doing serious harm to that child and behaving in a very irresponsible manner. If more people stigmatised such behaviour less people would engage in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 09:18 PM
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I'm not saying it's possible to stop people doing immoral things, I am just saying it's immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 09:10 PM
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Personally I don't think people should have out of wedlock sex at all, but yeah if they're going to, they should know they can handle the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 08:01 PM
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We cannot force a mom to gestate a baby she doesn't want. a lot harder to kill the baby if no "healthcare provider" is willing to murder it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:51 PM
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Men and women would be a lot better off if they acknowledged that every time they consent to sex they are consenting to potentially conceive a child. No contraception is perfect, plenty of even pro-abortion people can't stomach the idea of snuffing out a life after that life is real and concrete and living inside them. If you don't have a workable game plan for that potential child you shouldn't be having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:50 PM
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When I watched that (and admittedly I was in my 20s by then) it made me want to be a mother even more because I saw these crazy dysfunctionals with their kids and I felt like "I can do better than that!" I don't think my teen self was any more humble though so I can't say she wouldn't have reacted the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:42 PM
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My question is, since a high paying tech job extends far beyond a civil right, or basic necessity, do you believe that the definition of equality, should be applied to it? I don't really think that's for me to say. I am not an advocate of political equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:37 PM
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Can you reword your question, it's a bit unclear.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 06:34 PM
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It's just virtue signalling. They aren't really saying anything more than "look how progressive I am, give me approval". Obviously its absurd to judge a company on how many women it employs. If a company's purpose is to build good widgets and sell them for the best prices then it's completely superfluous to that goal. If company's purposes are to be to enact progressivism then one has to wonder if the widget quality and price will be adversely affected.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 06:28 PM
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While looking it up I found such a range of numbers that I have no idea. Honestly it's probably highly culture dependent (not just country but subculture too) which might explain why different surveys have such different numbers (are they likely to have adjusted for subcultures? probably not...)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 06:25 PM
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People with the wisdom and fortitude to keep them out of trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 06:02 PM
1

Honestly I only ever heard the "I'm on a mac" parody, I never realised that the original had sexual lyrics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 05:20 PM
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When I was younger maybe once or twice a year - understand I wasn't really into clubs or bars or anything and British guys tend to be shy and awkward and fail at making their desires obvious. When I've been abroad I have been shocked how much more common it is in other cultures. These days the opportunity doesn't come up, maybe I am too old (29)? Everyone I talk to on a regular basis is married or related to me. The exception is my best friend, and she's a woman. (i) 25-34 (ii) 0 (iii) 0 (iv) 0 …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 03:59 PM
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There's a very broad spread, but the most interesting thing is that the blue pillers seem to not include anyone who hasn't had sexual contact recently. I take from this that they remain blue pill precisely because it's been unnecessary for them to look for alternative sexual strategies. Red pill people are more varied, some are claiming very high numbers of partners and frequent sex and others have not had sex in a long time and have had very low or no partners. Between women and men there are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 03:25 PM
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17 Edit: sorry nope. 35 - 17 of whom identified as red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 03:01 PM
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Yeah... I regretted it after I already made the survey.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 02:55 PM
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"Gangbangs" are not a thing I've come across IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 02:54 PM
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Wait is "I'm on a boat" an innuendo of some kind?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 02:49 PM
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Once a child is in school Japanese culture is pretty amenable to working mothers. Children are very independent, walk themselves to school. Stick the rice in a rice cooker and set it to be ready when everyone gets home, kids go to cram school after normal school extending your potential working hours. That is not so unusual in the younger generations of Japanese - it is less high status than being a housewife, but hardly unheard of. From a whole economy perspective though it's not cheaper - thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 12:09 PM
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I pretty much assume we are talking about hunter gatherers since I am pretty sure that the Neolithic revolution is waaaaay after the time period we're discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 12:04 PM
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There isn't a clear path from fucking someone for fun on the weekends to a stable relationship into which children can be brought. Making relationship standards more lax just exacerbates the problem. The Japanese happily abort out of wedlock babies, casual relationships are not going to help them. They need to lower the cost of marriage and childbearing or significantly improve the economy - the former is probably easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:45 AM
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More importantly cavemen lived in tribes, if you took a woman from your own tribe without the approval of the rest of the tribe then you were going to get your skull bashed in and used as a drinking vessel, if you took from another tribe you have to constantly fight off the revenge raids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:37 AM
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Yeah but the reason it's a "problem" that there are herbivore men is the low Japanese birth rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:33 AM
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Every reasonably attractive woman who isn't either religious volcel or having preference for LTRs, has slept around in college, often with hot dudes. Hence 'cock carousel'. The average number of sexual partners for someone aged 20-59 is 4 I thought (I'm looking it up right now and my search terms clearly are poor but that's what I remember). How is that possible if people are having all this casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 10:52 AM
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No, the best indication of future behaviour is past behaviour. But if someone shows clear remorse and has some evidence of having changed, it's a good thing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 10:38 AM
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Yeah but which of those alternatives raises the Japanese birth rate? Single mothers/cohabiting mothers are not any cheaper than housewives. They tend to work less and earn less even when they do work because they need more flexibility in their hours. If Japan can't afford to have children the solution is to make children cheaper or improve productivity, not "alternative relationship models".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 10:33 AM
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There's an easy solution to this kind of rhetoric. Make murdering your or someone elses unborn child illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 10:28 AM
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Yeah that's the kind of thing!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:55 AM
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I don't really hang out with guys so I am basing this off the media and people on the internet more than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 06:04 PM
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Humans as humans (homo erectus) and not some proto-human creature have always had language. How the apes did it, probably there was variation between different homo species and their progenitors.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 05:52 PM
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Men naturally have high libido, but the current culture is one that believes it is wrong to suppress ones libido, that sexuality equates to virility and that sexual continence is a sign of sexual incompetence rather than self-control. Historically there have been plenty of societies that took a different view and arguably were significantly more viril overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 05:47 PM
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I'm not trying to say what you should have done. I'm just saying don't waste your youth, life is very short. Figure out what you want, not just now but your whole life and be aggressive in making it happen. Don't just go with the flow and hope it works out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 04:53 PM
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Well one of them, Rainer Maria Rilke wasnt born Rainer, he changed his name to that because his lover/wife (I forget which) thought it sounded more masculine and Germanic. Changing your name at the behest of a woman has to be pretty beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 04:28 PM
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Really? I'm not sure all of them would fit the descriptions I've seen of "alpha".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 04:22 PM
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Discipline is the strength to control yourself - it can be used in the present for a reward in the present. An example could be the discipline not gorge yourself in front of someone you like so that they don't lose respect for you. The same person could happily gorge themselves in private because they don't have the future time orientation to realise that having done so their gluttony will be visible in large rolls of fat on their body and the people they'd never gorge in front of will all know.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 12:18 PM
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He didn't marry the person he wanted - beta. Pretty much everyone in the aristocracy for hundreds of years didn't marry who they wanted. Both him and Dianna had doubts about their relationship because of his oneitis for Camilla - Beta. Well their relationship was never really meant to be for them, it was meant to be for the country. It was a difficult situation for everyone involved really. That's just how it went in those circles in those days. I don't really buy into these categories that much…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 11:51 AM
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Every piece of information that has come out about his relationship with Dianna is a women demanding to be led and a man who is to pussy to be the man she so clearly wants/needs. Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 11:37 AM
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I don't think any grown man wants to be treated like a toddler - if they have a craving for motherly love, that aspect doesn't seem to be the aspect in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 11:37 AM
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Can you give some examples of Prince Charles's beta behaviour?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 11:29 AM
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So when a kid is grown up and an adult - how does his mother love him then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 11:28 AM
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I'd bet the average is like 1 or 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 10:57 AM
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Neither, clearly the stereotypical "alpha" and "beta" can both be intelligent or unintelligent. You've got the (stereotypically stupid) "jock/fratboy" stereotype and then you've got the intelligent nerdy hard working steady beta type guy, good grades, clean living, low social skills. But then equally you've got high powered career men with charm and looks also in the "alpha" box and you've got stupid neckbeards (who might think they are smart but usually aren't) who just spend all day playing vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 09:53 AM
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I don't think it's either, it's a trait I'd associate with intelligence rather than with ones style of relating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 09:26 AM
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Yeah, not remarkable, but is it getting you anywhere? When you hit 30 are you going to think to yourself "oh crap I wasted my 20s, the time in my life when I had the most freedom to make life defining choices and I pissed it away"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 09:24 AM
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I only dated 4 girls while in college Only? How many do you think most people have?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 09:14 AM
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The infidelity stats seem a lot lower in the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 09:04 AM
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Women compete with women, men compete with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 08:56 AM
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I don't think it would work. Most of the "rape" that happens is not some guy forcing himself on a girl in an aggressive manner, but some girl being too drunk/unassertive/shy/ashamed to tell a man to stop when she was in an intimate situation with him. If you are too shy to say "please stop I don't want this" you are too shy to press a button to make the police come - and for that matter, you really should try saying "please stop" before pressing such a button.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 08:39 AM
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I am looking for stories where the man that you fell for was, by conventional terms, unattractive and a loser. Ideally I would like examples of how he was a genuinely nice guy-friendly, respectful and not misogynistic. Yes, but I wasn't attracted to him because of those things. I was just attracted because he seemed "weird", because I was a teenaged edgelord and I thought that anything weird was automatically good. Basically I was being a hipster, "you like attractive men who aren't cripplingly …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 08:30 AM
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I don't think gender roles are entirely socially conditioned. There is variance in the population to how naturally suited a particular person is to their culture's gender roles. Anglo gender roles have always been different to Sub-Saharan African gender roles which have always been different to Middle Eastern gender roles which have always been different to South Asian and so on. Every culture is different on this one and that's partly genetic (the mean of the natural variance between individual…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 08:21 AM
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Any woman who doesn't want to go to war can just get herself knocked up. No way are they putting pregnant women on the front lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 08:03 AM
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"No-one understands his genius like me!"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 08:00 AM
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but I would easily crawl on my hands and knees for the the chance to ride his cock. I can't even begin to explain why, but this chubby, short little nerd makes me orgasm more times than I can count in the short time we spend together Ew... who talks like this :/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 07:59 AM
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You don't believe you can feel simultaneous storge and eros? I think a good relationship requires all four types of love, storge, eros, philia and agape.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 07:46 AM
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Historically the dowry would be returned to the bride's family I thought. Bride price is the thing that could be returned to the man. Mahr is given directly to the woman and kind of serves as insurance for her because its supposed to be enough to support herself if the husband dies or divorces her. But that's only an Islamic thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 06:09 AM
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Most of the crèche, nursing stations, pre-schools, hairdressers etc are women only (or a tiny minority of men) and they seem to work ok. There's probably gossip and stuff but the work gets done.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 06:07 AM
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People don't just do what they want, there are massive incentive programs to push women into male dominated fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 08:24 PM
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Non-hetero people are a small minority so the effect of their presence is not going to be anything like the effect of 50% of the population's presence. As for the rest of it, it probably wouldn't function if you tried to have women doing the same jobs in the same industries as men. It would make more sense to segregate on industry lines based on male and female interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 07:14 PM
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In the workplace? No-one has to worry about sexual harrasment/accusations, no-one worries they just got promoted because the boss wanted to see more of their tits, no-one worries their coworkers suspect they only got a job to make quotas and resents them for it, easier to accomodate the mommy track, paranoid people don't have to worry about their husband/wife spending their workday chasing tail, horny people not distracted from their work by chasing tail? What's the downside?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 06:34 PM
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No. I think most people ignore identity politics and it's just loud minorities of people who involve themselves in it. That's not to say identity politics doesn't effect everyone else because unfortunately it does, but I don't think the effect leads to more gender segregation really.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 04:49 PM
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Now if you're talking about a husband "respecting" his wife as a human being, her bodily integrity, hearing her out What are you using it to mean... respect is the opposite of contempt, if you have contempt for your wife you're going to have a miserable life because you're stuck with someone who you have contempt for. If you're indifferent to her (the middle ground) then... I guess you can be content, but it's hardly a glowing endorsement of the relationship. Respect doesn't mean accepting any k…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 03:29 PM
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Obedience is not the same as respect. Recently I've had a lot of morning sickness and I used it as an excuse to not do the housework. My husband told me off for that, that was respectful, he was disapointed in me for not doing what is effectively my job and he told me I still need to get it done and I can't just act like an invalid my whole pregnancy. And he is totally right, I am glad he told me instead of stewing in resentment, that's what respect is, being honest, being clear about your expec…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 03:13 PM
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My husband shows respect to me and I didn't run away from him, it doesn't piss me off or make me hate or disrespect him. I think he is wonderful. Other men also treated me with respect, but only one man got my interest - clearly there is more to relationships than just respect, but without respect you might as well not bother, why would you start a buisness with someone you don't respect? A household is like a buisness, you will be entrusting a lot of the day to day management of a household to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 03:02 PM
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I was using this RP concept, which I admit encompasses other things as well, for the dominant view that I see on there which is that women are good for nothing but sex, that men cannot have a meaningful relationship with a woman because they are just not capable of it and even if they really do deeply long for one they should abandon hope and accept a life of "spinning plates" or if that doesn't appeal to them of avoiding female contact altogether. I think that worldview is very harmful to men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 02:11 PM
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I feel like there would be a lot less evidence for an asset that never was than a marriage. Married people have lots of things in common, bills, residence, bank accounts, council tax etc etc. Their families should be able to testify on their behalf, there should be no evidence of other relationships (some girl comes out of the woodwork saying he lived with her for 2 of the 4 years... that's got to be enough evidence to invalidate a policy) all kinds of stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 02:07 PM
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So you realise you've essentially supported red pill theory as practiced by an acceptance phaser Alpha Bucks Ok? Is there a response you're looking for in telling me this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 01:56 PM
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That is pretty insane...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 01:53 PM
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Honestly don't know enough about it to say. I think patriarchy works - maybe it's because I had a good relationship with my dad, he was always the calm person in the storm who knew what the right thing to do was, he was never forceful, but he made his opinion known and people just respected him enough to listen to it and grant it authority. I think that's what the masculine genius is, to be naturally authorititive, to command respect - they make good kings and good husbands, they just need to re…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 01:52 PM
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Would you? To me that's like saying you only have to own an asset you lose in a fire "on paper" to get a payout for it - but clearly that is fraud and prosecutable. There's going to be a paper trail if you don't really live with someone you're pretending to be married to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 01:45 PM
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How could an insurance payout after the fact be a "marital asset"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 01:40 PM
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Couldn't you just make it so the initiator of a divorce can't recieve a payout? Plus it's a pretty big scam to pay premiums for 4 years, live with someone you don't really want to be married to, to just get not much more than you have paid in all those years (one of the websites I saw said that $16 a month covered $1200 payout - which after the 4 years goes up by $250 a year) Your total profit can't be worth all the trouble?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 01:21 PM
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I've met some very great men via work but there is always this lingering feeling that they're only nice to me because I'm young and look pretty. There's an easy way to test this. Try looking ugly for a bit. Both men and women demonstrably treat pretty people better than ugly people so that might just confirm your fears, but if you want to know who is friendly and who's trying to get in your pants it might be a good way to draw the line. :P Why do you find it hard to empathise with men who say th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 12:50 PM
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Why would you hate all men on the basis of an online subculture? If I were you I'd get off the internet (completely) for a set period of time (weeks or better yet months) except for work stuff and treat people as human beings not as potential representitives of a negative stereotype or statistic you read about somewhere. Most people are alright, flawed for sure, but not in an irredeemable way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 12:33 PM
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Never show interest in a woman before you know she already likes you. They will get scared and run, unless they're sluts and then you'll probably just catch herpes. Develop yourself (hobbies, skills, interests) in social ways (don't try and teach yourself a skill at home, go to a class. Don't just practice your guitar on your own at home, join a band etc) and don't be shy, talk to the other people in the class, make an impression, and if you get a chance definately jump at the chance to play tea…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 11:16 AM
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What do you want your life to look like when you are 75? When you are on your deathbed, who do you want to see looking at you, who do you want to hold your hand and talk you through your last moments on earth? What do you want to look back on with pride? What would you look back on with regret? How do your current relationships/choices in general fit in with that. Death will be here soon to snatch us away, so be prepared, there is no time to waste.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 11:09 AM
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You mean like a Katb el-Kitab or Ketubah?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 11:04 AM
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I don't believe in egalitarianism. But yes, I think in general it has been shown both individuals and society are better off in long term, respectful relationships. Human beings are made whole only when they have deep bonds with others, with both duties and privileges commesurate with their place in society. The family is a microcosm of society and a society in it's own right. In terms of marriage I think both partners are equal in terms of their status as human beings and images of God, but the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 10:59 AM
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"you're such a nice guy, I wish my boyfriend, Chad Thundercock was like you." I still have a hard time believing this ever actually happens. If you disrespect your partner so much you're willing to bitch about them to members of the opposite sex, you don't really have a real relationship anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 10:50 AM
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This is the inherent misandry of TRP, it basically teaches men that meaningful relationships (which they crave as much as women do) are not worth pursuing and that all there is out there for them is empty hedonism, which never really makes people happy in the long term. It's ridiculously destructive for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 10:41 AM
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I wish that you could see that the elite of TRP, those out of the anger phase, don't hate women, but merely understand them. If the theory is correct I am better off not, since they might tempt me away from my husband :P
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 08:55 AM
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Hmm, I've seen conflicting studies. I imagine it's a difficult thing to study because every culture will do things in a slightly different way and have different expectations and a different experience of married life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 08:54 AM
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We're all WEIRD here I imagine. If you did a survey of the general population of Anglosphere countries and the EU your results would what the WEIRD think in general. I think they're cowed enough by PC to probably agree with the first, but I am not sure that more than 50% would agree with the second. Actually I am not even sure about the first, college students would probably agree with it - but the population at large maybe not. However there would be almost a consensus on beliefs which lead to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 08:49 AM
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Well unless you are really bad at self-reflection evaluating the effectiveness of your behaviours and adjusting them in response is a natural part of practicing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 08:37 AM
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I guess, I didn't really factor in the genuinely abusive, I imagine that's a whole different kettle of fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 08:37 PM
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I don't think anyone really "gets over" their ex partners, they just get better at compartmentalising and distracting themselves. That's why people are better off not playing the field or engaging in serial monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 08:29 PM
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No way she really believed she had a chance, she was just saying it to be cutesy I'd imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 07:57 PM
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You are right that the girl is mainly happy because she can show it off to her friends. But the mistake you are making is to think it is in any way related to a date in the sense of going out for the purpose of evaluating a potential mate. This event is a totally different phenomenon, it's like getting a really rare stamp in your stamp collection, taking a photograph of an endangered wild animal or getting a legendary card in Magic the Gathering. It's a trophy not a real date, she's not comparin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 07:50 PM
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Its an example. Your movement does not believe in the possibility of hope for women, we cannot be good people, our lives are not worth living. It doesn't really matter if it's mean. It's not true, God has redeemed all men, there is a path out of slavery to sin, all men and all women can find that Way and follow that Light and live that Life. Our bondage to sin has been broken by the creator of all existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 07:14 PM
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Well the guy who told me it's impossible for me to be loyal to my husband for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 07:03 PM
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It's one thing to say humans have flaws, which is obvious, and a whole other to say that there is no hope, those flaws are just things that have to be lived with and accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 06:53 PM
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He wasn't unattractive in the younger photo... he was probably just socially awkward as a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 06:50 PM
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Neither is unacceptable...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 06:48 PM
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but this is female independence under the contemporary 3rd wave! It's sexist to argue against this! Shrug
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 06:44 PM
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If you aren't joking then, hell, bring on Sharia Law. I'll pay Jizya to get rid of this decadence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 06:36 PM
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Man I am glad I never went out to bars or got involved in the dating scene. That's all I can say in response to that article.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 06:29 PM
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When I rejected guys I always said "I am not ready for a relationship". Which was true at the time. Now if it came up I'd say "I'm married" but I never talk to men anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 06:23 PM
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If you really believe that you should do your part to slaughter all the women in the world. Because a life without virtue is not worth living.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 06:21 PM
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If I believed that I would kill myself now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 05:23 PM
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Red pill isn't specifically misogynistic, it's misanthropic. It sees human beings as slaves to their passions with no way to escape their slavery. It describes humanity as nothing but their most animalistic lusts - but throughout history there is ample evidence we have been and can be much more than that, better than that - men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 05:23 PM
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It's not cynicism, it's understanding women. You can say that all you like but it doesn't make it any more true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 05:11 PM
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Seemed appropriate to the topic of the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 03:51 PM
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I lost my virginity in my 20s... :(
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 02:29 PM
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If my husband ever leaves me or dies I have pledged to become a nun (literally, as in live in a convent, pray all the time etc). I fully intendd to live up to that. I will never have sex or a relationship with any other man. That you are too cynical to believe otherwise is your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 02:27 PM
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I'd like to see the evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 02:25 PM
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We spend all our time together, we tell each other and we connect physically. But most of all I freak out when he pretends to be upset with me. It's just a game we play, he acts like he is angry and disaproving, I act super remorseful, he ramps it up because he can tell I don't believe I am really upset - till I get really upset and then he laughs and says he was only joking. Then we cuddle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 09:01 AM
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I had Trent Reznor...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 08:51 AM
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Practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 08:51 AM
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Except that is bullshit. If I even think about the idea of cheating on my husband, even if I think about going places and talking to men who I might conceivably get emotionally (not sexually) intimate with, I see his face, I feel in my heart the feeling of betrayal he'd be experiencing and it's so horrible I immediately erase the (talking to men) thought from my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 08:50 AM
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I'd counter this with, I don't think men are as bothered about looks either. For both genders, if someone is not actively ugly - once they meet a basic standard of "it's not uncomfortable to look at this person" then looks move down the priority ladder. Also how "painful" it is to look at someone changes over time. I used to find aspects of my husband's appearence offputting, but over time I got used to the offputting parts and they faded into the background, while the beautiful aspects became m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 08:39 AM
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Western Educated Industrialised Rich and Democratic. To put the absurdity of things into perspective, there are people campaigning for sex reassignment surgery - a far more extensive mutilation than female circumcision - to be performed on children who are completely unable to really grasp the ramifications and are in fact often deluded into believing it will actually change their biological sex and not just act on a purely cosmetic level. Why is one good and one bad? Because as a culture we hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 07:55 AM
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Maybe so, but it's a self selecting group of people. There's probably just as many people on reddit and reddit hardly reflects the people I meet when I talk to people in the outside world.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 10:50 PM
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I don't think that is true at all. Once you look passable I don't think women are particularily bothered with looks. They're more interested in hooks (heh that's a nice slogan, hooks not looks). I'll give an example from my experience, when I was a teenager even though I was terrified of sexuality, despite myself I was drawn to talk to some men over others. Those men weren't the ones I found the most beautiful, but the ones who had "interesting" features that made them stand out. So one guy had …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 10:27 PM
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It basically tells them there is no real possibility for a real meaningful relationship with a woman, they cannot build a life with a woman, because AWALT and she will stab you in the back so all that is left for them is to indulge is empty sexual hedonism to satisfy their drive for female contact. It is mechanistic, atheistic and empty as a philosophy and like all mechanistic philosophies it consumes the true believers. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 10:18 PM
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Honestly I think that's confirmation bias, people notice the stuff that goes how they expect but when things are different it's always an "exception" - in the real world there are a lot of exceptions. I also think the internet is a poor reflection of the real world (in my experience).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 10:13 PM
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The nature of an individualistic society is that whoever can muster the confidence/force of will to demand more tends to get more because it's every man person for themselves. By you guys' own definition of "beta" that's not those guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 09:58 PM
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Society and it's power structures in the public sphere are neither right now, they are individualistic. And this is even more the case in the private sphere. There are still some powerful families, but the nouveau riche march ever onward and the ancient regime advances further in dementia.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 09:52 PM
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Well in reality very few people are so hideously "normal for Norfolk" that with a bit of effort they couldn't look passable. The ones that are... yeah I dunno how to help. I once saw a documentary about a guy with cruzons getting a girlfriend, so it's possible but I imagine there was an element of virtue signaling in her deciding to be with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 09:49 PM
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Blind women need love as much as anyone. So if you're not going to be picking them up at a bar consider where you are likely to find them. Blind charity events, braile courses stuff like that. Just whatever you do don't come on too strong in a setting like that, you're a caring person, and you relate to the difficulty the blind woman suffers from in having a disability because if you're that physically repulsive you have a legit deformity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 09:09 PM
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marxist cultural relativism at its best. No, it just means not everything WEIRD people believe is true. except for damaging women for life by intentionally reducing sexual pleasure Total oversimplification of the situation. There are multiple forms of female circumcision, some of them do reduce sexual pleasure and some don't. However this is kind of what I mean. In our culture sexuality and pleasure and hedonistic behaviour is the be all and end all of life, because we've destroyed all the worth…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 07:33 AM
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Well lets look at it this way, when he got diagnosed with a chronic disease a year before we got married he had that literal freak out every day (about his job). Screaming, crying, throwing things, curling up in a little ball etc etc. I had moved across the country to live with him when he moved to get that job and we argued every day because he wanted to quit his job and us move in with my parents and I knew that was simply not possible because my parents wouldn't accept it. And he hated me for…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 11:24 PM
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That to me is like asking how much of the chance a bridge falls down is due to the design and how much is due to the pressures exerted on the bridge by traffic. Clearly the design couldn't handle the traffic if it falls down, but if there was less traffic or a better design it could have held. The stressors (environment) are intertwined with the design (genetics).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 11:00 PM
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Because they say stupid things like "why should I have to pay for schools if I don't have kids" as if having an educated population wasn't valuable to society at large and not just parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 10:52 PM
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Feminism has been an ascendent ideology since the 1800s. By the 40s it was already very popular and well developed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 10:18 PM
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I'm happy in my relationship. We do manipulate each other but in a playful acknowledged way. We have regular sex (weekly) at the moment but it's been more frequent in the past. I've had pretty bad morning sickness and it's made things more difficult. If he is discontent he won't admit it to me. My biggest relationship issue is because I don't work but do the housework instead I always feel guilty like I contribute a lot less than he does, I think he likes this because it makes me feel like I hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 09:56 PM
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Female circumcision doesn't "keep women down" in any way. Its just a cultural practice that upsets WEIRDos because it goes against some of our cultural norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 09:15 PM
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Join a pottery class/voluntary work doing something social/chat to people in public/join the ramblers/go to church/go to bars/join a fetish group/attend conferences with work. Really depends what kind of women you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 08:04 PM
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When he does that I am focused on the situation because it's an immediate stressor. If he loses or quits his job we still have to pay the rent. No one is in lovey dovey mode when they have responsibilities to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 07:48 PM
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Worried how we're going to pay the bills and thinking about how quickly I can find a job to help out. However I've had that conversation a lot and usually it all blows over.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 07:39 PM
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Be clear about what you want from your relationships and meet enough people to find the women whose desires are compatible. Avoid being so dependent on relationships with women that you come across as desperate. If you are physically repulsive find women with poor eyesight. If you have a repugnant personality develop virtue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 07:33 PM
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It makes me feel warm toward him and sad for him. Plus a lot of the times he cries it's because he is being compassionate. Which is endearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 05:14 PM
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When I was a teenager I pretty much assumed that if a guy listened to me that meant I owed him sexual favours. I was a virgin so I didn't actually have sex with them but kissing, letting them feel my boobs and stuff... I hated every minuite of it, but I felt like it would be something a bitch would do to say no because I had enjoyed talking to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 11:52 AM
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I guess part of this is the crux of what a relationship is for. For me as a Christian woman the primary purpose of a relationship is to help and support the other person to attain salvation and them to do the same for you. On a pragmatic level it has two other secondary purposes, to provide a sexual outlet and effectively an economic partnership to raise children in. I find this kind of relationship deeply fulfilling, and considering how much happier my husband seems since we've been together I …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 11:12 AM
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If he was actively working and improving on those things I would gladly do what I could to make it easier for him, it wouldn't effect how I see him, my husband has weaknesses of "non traditional" kinds. If he was running away, refusing to face up to his need to work on it and making excuses I'd find it irritating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 11:07 AM
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I don't know if all girls are the same, but I feel horny in 3 situations, when I am ovulating, when I am on my period (>:() and when sexual activity has already been initiated and my body is being touched in particular ways. I have never come across a guy who made me feel horny by virtue of being or behaving a particular way. I do accept I could be odd though, all my sexual fantasies involve situations not people - they're all about what is happening to me, not who is doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 10:56 AM
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There is a difference between showing vulnerability and being a completely depressed and unhelpable person who needs constant reassurance and never takes control of themselves. In a relationship showing vulnerability deepens intimacy, but being clinically depressed or needing constant caretaking is just exhausting and it takes someone very committed to not bail just because realistically that kind of person makes everyone around them feel stressed and miserable. If my husband became depressed I …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 10:43 AM
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When my husband cries I think it makes him adorable, but it would be weird if it happened in public. I like the feeling it's something he does just for me, that I alone am given an insight to his private vulnerablilities. I'd find a woman who didn't enjoy feeling like that simply to not be that interested in the first place, and probably they feel like "oh crap, now he has opened up to me it will be much more painful when we get to the inevitable rejection I've been putting off".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 10:37 AM
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Maybe I am (dunno) but all of them can't have been.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 11:04 PM
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Well going by popculture I'd say neither of them, the guy in a band with a tribal tattoo. In real life we had neither of those things in my British school so I can't really say. Also I was a loner in school and had no clue what was going on with the social kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 11:02 PM
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I am not talking about marriage, I am talking about fucking. My parents are pagans and I got to witness a lot of ugly people fucking each other as a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 11:01 PM
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Probably for the majority of the world's population, the parents of the couple to be are the selectors.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 10:58 PM
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I see lots of ugly men and ugly women happily boning each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 10:56 PM
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What are you talking about? Chess is cooler than American football.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 10:55 PM
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I had absolutely no interest in a sexual relationship prior to meeting my husband except in a vague "I'd like kids but I am not sure about the father part" kind of way. Lots of men approached me and I found it a horrible experience where I inevitably felt bad having to reject them. In my husband's case I decided, I am finally ready to give this a try, be vulnerable with a man, and see what happens because in his particular case I just couldn't bear to see the pain caused by rejecting him. Turned…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 07:49 PM
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This is utterly mindblowing to me... my husband and I are both 2 for the count. My best friend (nearing 30) is at a whopping 0. My brother (27) also 0. It really makes you realise that the "culture" of my social circle and the "culture" of society at large are two totally different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:20 PM
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I remember when I was a teenager I was watching some shitty reality show about having babies and these parents were gushing happily about their child, they were so happy. Up to this point my whole frame of reference for having children was that it involved cleaning up poo and dealing with screaming and no sleep and then eventually tantrums and "I hate you mum!" - I literally couldn't imagine how anyone could be happy in that situation. I asked my dad and he said "why is it so surprising, they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:12 PM
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