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I’d reply “Sure, no worries” and don’t think twice about it. You’ll probably think about it now, but eventually you want to have enough abundance that you don’t think much into things women do. It is what it is.
/r/seduction28/07/26 02:46 AM
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I agree about looking pathetic if you clout-flex, and I also agree using any advantages you may have while you are learning is fair game. It’s a DHV if she finds out totally on her own. Eg: I never told girls about my super car/house/finances, but when I picked up dates for the first time in a fancy car or when I brought them home, you could definitely see more attraction switches flip. Don’t even think about it. You should be able to game without crutches or training wheels.
/r/seduction21/07/26 10:31 AM
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I have known a few screwups who consistently would have a rotation of girls (some hot) although never keep them long term. The common theme is they believed their own bs to the point they were delusional haha. These usually ended badly with age, so I agree with the other poster who replied, don’t look up to your screwup friend. But they are a useful example about how far confidence can take you. I have also known a few funny, confident, tall, handsome, non-judgmental guys with their act together…
/r/seduction18/07/26 10:19 PM
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You’ll have to break some eggs to get back into the groove and make a good omelette.
/r/seduction03/07/26 06:49 AM
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Don’t worry about your age. For the handsome, healthy, confident, fun, successful man, there will always be a steady supply of kitties.
/r/seduction25/05/26 10:53 AM
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A lot of it is down to logistics and you actually escalating. For example, whenever I had women meet me at my house so we could go out with my car, we would spend a few minutes at my house while I get ready, then we’d go out and have fun. Then we’d return (since her car is on my driveway) and if she wanted to come in and chill then it’d be a done deal. Otherwise no big deal. Don’t make it the end goal, but do have good logistics so it can happen.
/r/seduction12/05/26 05:05 PM
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You will break many eggs to make an omelette. Don’t think much of it. There are millions of hot girls out there waiting for an ok guy that has the courage to walk up and express his desire to ask her out.
/r/seduction11/05/26 03:27 PM
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By deciding I’d do anything to get what I wanted, then studying everything I could get my hands on and going out practicing 4 days per week for years. There are no shortcuts, you have to put in the work. In the end I was a different guy, for the better.
/r/seduction02/05/26 08:35 PM
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Within 1 to 20 minutes of meeting a new girl, depending on how much time you think you have. I used to believe you need 20 mins minimum, but I had quick interactions with hot girls where I laid it all on the table very quickly and ended up going on dates etc.. Don’t overthink it, you can always just tell a girl you want to take her out because she cute.
/r/seduction02/05/26 08:33 PM
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“I’m terrified…” “I’m scared…” You have to become the guy that flows without caring too much. Easier said than done. It took me 4-5 years.
/r/seduction01/05/26 09:33 PM
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In life you have to be strong and not cry over spilled milk. Determine objectively where you are today and where you want to be tomorrow. Can you commit to doing whatever it takes? If so, you will succeed. It's more than approaching. I wondered aimlessly until 36, until I found the pickup community, and started on a journey that was way bigger than women and pickup. I saw guys come and go, and the theme was common: lack of total commitment to evolve, become your best self, and go after what you …
/r/seduction26/04/26 11:24 PM
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I'd agree, if there was something to loose to begin with, but I don't see it that way.
/r/seduction22/04/26 10:43 PM
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The correct thing is to be the high valued guy with a bit of game and go for what you want without overthinking it.
/r/seduction22/04/26 09:49 PM
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You don’t know what you don’t know and you won’t learn what’s necessary from Reddit replies, although we can point you in the right direction. Yes, it’s simple ones you know what you are doing, it’s like riding a bike, you don’t even think about it eventually. I studied Double Your Dating, Mystery, Love Systems Interview Series, RSD videos, the list goes on… use Google search.
/r/seduction21/04/26 04:58 PM
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Absolutely no note. Lay it out there proudly, it takes 20 seconds. Just go to her and point the impossibility of the situation. “Not to be the guy that hits on you here with kids around (pause with a smirk) but I guess you make it impossible to resist…” then improvise depending on her lighting up like a Christmas tree or not. When they like you, they make it really really easy. If it’s a green light, she will either suggest you get her # or you can ask “let me get your # before you get dragged a…
/r/seduction20/04/26 05:00 PM
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Yeah, delete flakes and don’t think about it. If you see them again, don’t bring it up. It’s not her fault if she is not feeling it. When get better overall, flakes go way down, but you still have to deal with the PITAs, so delete delete delete 😂
/r/seduction16/04/26 10:13 PM
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You are probably in the wrong market, geographically speaking. There are normal educated 25-28yo hotties not infected by the social media cancers that would love to be with you, but you have to get off the beaten paths and definitely not on apps.
/r/seduction12/04/26 04:57 PM
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I winner is a loser, that tried one more time. So keep at it, but since this happens consistently take it as feedback and make adjustments. Don’t blame women. We do the same. Attraction is not an option. You probably have some low value blind spots that you can’t see but are obvious to others especially women. It takes a certain kind of guy that can do an honest self assessment and introspection. It’s all fixable if you apply yourself. There is a lot of good community material that will help you…
/r/seduction12/04/26 04:43 PM
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Be polarizing and deflect the friends frame: sure, but I'll be upfront with you, every time I see you I'll be all over you because you are so sexy, I just can't help myself Either she will cut you off or it will not be just friends. Don't accept that ljbf bs.
/r/seduction10/04/26 08:07 PM
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You already could had rocked the 20yo, we need to be asking you the questions. Anyway, the reality is that the vast majority of guys never achieve their potential, accept defeat and settle for whatever. Don't waste your precious time, before you know it another decade will be gone and at that point you better be at the top of your mountain looking down, if you want the high caliber youth to carry your offspring ;)
/r/seduction10/04/26 07:52 PM
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Stop agonizing over nonsense. Pause and ask yourself if you would think different if you had 10 attractive women in your phone that love you and down to be taken out at a drop of a txt. This sorts itself out when you have options and the best way to have options is to actually have them. Until then, fake it till you make it and run it like a business. Would you accept such behavior from an employee? No. Resist temptation to interpret, just look at actions. Give a couple of chances, but repeat an…
/r/seduction10/04/26 01:55 PM
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For naturals its effortless, for someone like you it will take effort. You will need to become a man on a mission on many fronts. Join a seduction lair, read up community material (Mystery, RSD, DavidD and others), go out and practice, workout, eat healthy, sleep good, work on GQ style, make good money, travel, just to name a few off the top of my head. It takes effort to get out of being a pussy that gets no pussy (lol) to being the man men admire and women want to be with.
/r/seduction07/04/26 09:19 PM
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Getting rid of a lot of self limiting beliefs and polishing myself, realizing what I bring to the table, and realizing that I am basically a cool guy with little game. After I found the community I quickly added outer game, but it took longer for the inner game to catch up and lots of fake-it-til-you-make it. Plus rubbing shoulders with a few naturals. It's great to have friends that are pussy magnets, because it shows you what's possible and how they think (or rather, how they don't think). All…
/r/seduction07/04/26 07:05 PM
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All game is inner game. Self esteem is all in your head. I struggled with it too. Nothing beats getting experience under your belt to little by little realign the reality inside your head with the real reality. You don't need to "know where you stand". You are a man talking to a woman. If she keeps talking to you, assume it's on. State your intentions, by 5-10 minutes in she should know that you find her cute and you want to take her out.
/r/seduction06/04/26 04:00 AM
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I’d give two days as options and let them choose. If they countered with a third option, cool. Anything else, I’d ignore and delete the number. Not a big deal. It’s either on, or it’s not, or you are dealing with a PITA girl. When you have lots of options this sort of thing resolves on its own. Otherwise fake it (having options), consider what is acceptable to you, and stick to it.
/r/seduction05/04/26 12:13 PM
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This reminds me of my first gf after finding the community and starting with game, who straight up told me that I’m wasting time and that “I’ll never go for a hairy guy like you”. Let’s just say one thing lead to another… Bald, lots of hair, jacked or chubby, some women will love you and some will hate. It’s all good.
/r/seduction03/04/26 10:21 AM
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If I had to distill it into one tip is to unapologetically go after what you want. Easier said than done when you are stuck in your head like I was. But the universe is surprisingly generous if you just… try.
/r/seduction03/04/26 09:53 AM
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Life being about survival and replication, a lot of a woman’s value is tied to her good DNA (replication). That’s why men are biologically hardwired to respond mostly to the young and pretty. A lot of our value is about survival, which is more durable. Being a young hot woman is very fleeting. You have to capitalize while you still have it.
/r/seduction03/04/26 09:17 AM
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Anything will work some of the time. If you look good and are congruently confident, you can literally say "you are cute, and I definitely want to take you out" and some % of attractive girls will be thankful that you asked and accept. A memorable moment in my journey was a quick #close at the W Hotel rooftop in DC. She was thankful. She was by far the hottest girl I had ever #closed. All the fancy slicing and dicing of the 5 years since I studied and practiced game... to get to this simplicity.…
/r/seduction02/04/26 04:53 PM
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You want a city near that has babes. You can join a seduction lair there and make new social circles. There is a lot of good material in the seduction community, study it and you can do it on your own. Nobody is going to do it but you. You don’t need to be handsome. Presentable, in shape, well groomed, well dressed, confident in your self is plenty to pull pretty girls in the end, but to get there many (including me) needed the training wheels of the seduction community. Enjoy the journey.
/r/seduction01/04/26 11:18 PM
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We have it way better than women. If you are an overall somewhat attractive man that’s in shape, dresses sharp, is well off, has a great lifestyle etc, the number won’t be that important for some hot young women. But you have to really have your act together, period. So work towards being the man. I dated women in their 20s in my early 40s and married a 28yo at 47. To be frank this is not ideal, but I was a totally clueless nerd at 36 so it was not by choice, I had a lot of learning to do and th…
/r/seduction01/04/26 10:15 PM
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In person, by phone, text, messenger, smoke signals, whatever works. You are overthinking it.
/r/seduction01/04/26 09:23 PM
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You found the community at 28, you are ahead. I didn’t until 36. You will be fine, you just need the training wheels for a little bit to figure things out.
/r/seduction01/04/26 09:12 PM
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Yeah I agree. Do you really think the guy with lots of options cares what a single girl says? Not really, and I don’t mean this in an arrogant kind of way. If she starts being PITA it’s really a shame, but there are other hot girls that want in, so it’s not a big deal. The best medicine is to not care too much, and the only way to get there is to actually have options. That applies to seduction, jobs, business, etc. Fake it til you make it is fine (fake not caring) but the end goal is to make yo…
/r/seduction31/03/26 05:00 PM
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It takes effort but if you are willing to put the work, you can do it. You have to do everything you can to become more attractive overall, the very best version of you. There are no magic pills. Workout, develop your sense of GQ fashion, dress sharp, eat good, sleep good, do well financially, travel, have an interesting life. If you are fortunate to have a friend that is naturally good with hot girls, pay close attention to him, especially his mindset of abundance. It’s a fun journey.
/r/seduction31/03/26 03:17 AM
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By being in A+ shape, dress sharp, and hopefully have a tremendous lifestyle, travel overseas, nice house, cars, and chill guy.
/r/seduction30/03/26 10:09 PM
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You can take a horse to the spring but you can’t force it to drink water
/r/seduction29/03/26 09:58 PM
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At 40 I dated a 28yo Thai-American exotic beauty (a 10 in my eyes) that turned heads everywhere we went, but was total nightmare to deal with. Thanks to her I found my type looks wise, and now happily married with 3 kids, and she still looks stunning.
/r/seduction29/03/26 09:12 PM
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Stop trying to rationalize girls. It is what it is. You take out the ones you want and any behavior you don’t like, just cut them loose, and delete the #.
/r/seduction29/03/26 08:41 PM
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She is not attracted to you, move on and stop trying to rationalize.
/r/seduction27/03/26 09:39 PM
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Try to erase the "way out of my league" from your brain! I realize it might be true now in your head, but sooner or later it should not. Work daily towards being the best most attractive version of you. When you take out a girl you do it because you find her attractive and that's that. Don't hide it. Don't feel obligated to ask interesting or fun questions, you are not her entertainer. You are a man, she is a sexy attractive woman. You like her. Part of game is the delicate dance of communicatin…
/r/seduction27/03/26 09:10 PM
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This tip came from Mystery's DVDs from 20 years ago :) , and yes, the letting her in and telling her you will be ready in a minute is on purpose: a) you let in so she can see for herself that you are a cool normal guy with a nice house b) you are not the guy that will try to cling to a girl just because she is at his house (you probably have abundance), hence the "lets get the heck out of here". It was all carefully crafted by Mystery, and it works.
/r/seduction27/03/26 07:58 PM
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It took me years to go from totally clueless to (finally) taking out girls that turned heads. In the end you realize game is just going for whatever you want in this life without hesitation and apologies. It's not just for girls, but everything. Seek persistently and skillfully and the universe shall provide (eventually). So club girl or train girl, it's all good game. You can meet a totally stunning girl that is new to town, has zero friends, you ask her out after minimal chat, she accepts, and…
/r/seduction27/03/26 07:52 PM
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I don't think you are "ready", but it's rather easy... you like a girl, you go for it without thinking. You see her in the laundry room, you put on your smile and say whatever comes to your head "hello laundry sister, my god, you look cute today blah blah blah". You didn't do it, no problem. DM her unapologetically. She doesn't respond? no problem. Talk to her next time you see her (and do not mention that she didn't respond). There are no magic words. Going for it unapologetically is the magic.
/r/seduction27/03/26 07:32 PM
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No idea, but I'll give you what has worked great the other way around. After a successful day 1 or day 2, I'd ask the girl to drive to me and park at my place, so we can go out in one car, my car. She would come, I would open the door, let her in and casually tell her I'll be down in a minute. I'd go back up to finish getting ready, and then go down and say "ok, lets get out of here", then open the door to my GTR for her and off we went. Go out and have a good time. On the way back, when it's on…
/r/seduction27/03/26 07:19 PM
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If you think she is hot and you massively desire her, it's easy: just take her out and let it be known that you find her incredibly sexy etc, in flirty ways. I assume you have enough game to be flirty and overtly sexual. If she is not hot or you don't totally desire her, I have no clue. "Acting" just to get laid never really worked for me. In general I found anything less than attractive girls to be too difficult to game (a pain in the ass really).
/r/seduction27/03/26 07:02 PM
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Frankly, it all resolves on its own when you have lots of options. Don’t try to rationalize women. Throw a wide net and enjoy what the universe gives you.
/r/seduction26/03/26 10:45 AM
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Go for it.
/r/seduction21/03/26 04:08 PM
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I started at 36, married a 28yo at 47, and 10 years later we have 3 kids and she is still just as stunning. I am grateful to find the community when I did, and all the brutal work I put into it at the beginning paid off. You can definitely do it, you are waaaay ahead.
/r/seduction20/03/26 11:47 PM
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Ah, the first cold approach :) you made me smile and look back fondly. I’m now married to my dream woman and have 3 little kids. Don’t try to rationalize why this and that. Girls will do the girly things (and that’s why we love them), and you do you: unapologetically go for what you want, like you did. Keep it up and enjoy the journey.
/r/seduction03/01/26 02:30 PM
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My game changer was results with a few hot girls. It was not a clear single turning point, but eventually after years of blood sweat and tears I was confident to go after what I really wanted. Such a simple thing, yet complicated when you start.
/r/seduction02/01/26 07:07 PM
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There is no magic bullet. You know that in theory you can do it, but you won't believe it for real until you have actual experience that validates it.
/r/seduction16/12/25 05:31 PM
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Get yourself a copy of "The Venusian Arts Handbook" 2nd edition by Erik von Markovik. IMO it's the gold standard. Over a week, I read it and watched the Mystery Method (5 DVDs). At the same time I also joined a seduction lair that had meetings every Saturday. Being in a lair is good because you always have like-minding friends, aside from your own circle of friends, to go out and practice. Study some theory, but don't overthink it, put it to practice immediately... On the weekend following my eb…
/r/seduction11/12/25 06:12 PM
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It's the cancer of western woke, feminism, social media, that is turning a lot of women into nasty entitled... dudes.
/r/seduction11/12/25 05:07 PM
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bingo
/r/seduction10/12/25 08:47 PM
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Of all the girls you will meet in the next few years, some will have various objections (including age), real or (quite often) imaginary. To a certain extend the objections are irrelevant (to you). You want the girls you want, and that's that, go after them unapologetically. There is an an endless supply of pretty girls with no objections that would love to be taken out and caressed by you tonight. Side note here, don't say to a girl "I'm chill if you don't want to meet, but if you change your m…
/r/seduction10/12/25 08:46 PM
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The best way to qualify is to actually qualify. I had to figure out everything on my own, faked it til I made it, but as I aged into my mid 40s I put an and to fun and games. I was looking for the best possible wife, which for me is: a mother, a teacher, a lover, a porn star (with me lol), no tattoos, no party girl, no smoking, no drugs, no drinking, and definitely not a dude aka an entitled feminist woke brat. I was looking for stunning young natural beauty inside and out, someone I would be pr…
/r/seduction08/12/25 08:58 PM
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I totally agree about "the less you care"! the less you care about being funny, the less you care what she thinks of you. Of course you do care that she is hot and beautiful and you are just a helpless man seduced by her beauty. That's a "confession" I would often make early on. Make your inner caveman known.
/r/seduction25/11/25 06:42 PM
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Discount what women say they want, because it's different from what they actually want and get. "Make me laugh" in womanese means "please be a cool high-valued confident guy", someone self-amused that doesn't need her to be happy (and definitely doesn't try to be funny or entertain her). When you exude these traits, she will tell you "you are funny, you crack me up, you are too much" etc.. with minimal or no (!) talk on your part. It's not that you are actually funny, but everything you say ligh…
/r/seduction25/11/25 06:31 PM
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George Costanza enters the chat...
/r/seduction24/11/25 06:56 PM
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You have to clear up your head and inner game. We all have our daemons, I sure had mine. Study all the inner game material you can find. David D’s deep inner game, and RSD videos will help.
/r/seduction09/02/25 03:06 AM
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Continue to push beyond your comfort zone. Eventually discomfort becomes comfort. This applies to everything, not just pickup. View disrespect and rudeness as a natural filter that weeds out the bad apples. Don't take anything personal, such behavior is on them not you. Keep approaching the girls you find attractive, and don't hide your intentions. As you get better and more calibrated, rejection goes down, but at the beginning it's normal to be high. Keep at it.
/r/seduction09/02/25 01:59 AM
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You are now laying the foundation of your career/wealth, don't lose sight of that. Hot girls will come later, now your priority is to be obsessed with learning everything there is to be learned in your field of study.
/r/seduction07/02/25 05:55 PM
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There is no substitute to generating strong attraction in person. If you have attractive attributes such as good looking, well groomed, stylish, well spoken, and confident to go up to her to see what she is about, chances are she will be attracted and would love to hear that you want to take her out. At that point texting is a logistical tool for date/time and to get her address to pick her up in your... Ferrari ;)
/r/seduction07/02/25 05:06 PM
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Good stuff. I'd summarize: be a value giver rather than value sucker, with everybody.
/r/seduction07/02/25 12:43 AM
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The Venusian Arts Handbook (2nd edition) is the BIBLE when it comes to pickup. I studied lots of material, and if I were to suggest a single ebook for a newbie to read and go out practice, this is it. Sure, you can achieve success with a lot of different ways, but the theoretical background this ebook outlines is invaluable. You really have to study it, practice, study it, practice, until you don't even have to think about what you are doing, you have the process down on autopilot. And when you …
/r/seduction06/02/25 08:23 PM
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I had my smallish social circle until I met many guys through the community (local seduction lair), then I became good friends with a few of cool guys, we grew common social circles, plus a co-worker gamer who had big circles too, so I had a few big circles to hang out with, parties etc. Eventually I started doing pretty good but honestly it was never because of social circles, it was because of me. Social circles do give you a "home base" so to speak (going out alone sucks), however nobody will…
/r/seduction04/02/25 06:30 PM
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Obviously answering a text has a lower compliance threshold than answering a call, which has a lower compliance threshold than answering a facetime video call. This is the theory, and if you are starting out it might be best to stick to simple texting. Once I became confident, I tended to quickly escalate to phone or facetime or just confidently ask for a date over text. I had girls reply to a text by calling me and saying "too lazy to type", or I had girls say in person "so when are you going t…
/r/seduction04/02/25 06:04 PM
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Congrats on finding the community. There is lots of good material to read, google is your friend.
/r/seduction01/02/25 07:57 PM
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It’s a lot like driving at a race track. Studying and knowing the theory is one thing, but it requires a lot of practice and good quality guidance from a fast driver. Find a friend that’s good with girls and go out gaming girls with him. You will have aha moments, and eventually you will “drive” naturally fast without even thinking much about it. It took me 4-5 years but some get “it” very quickly.
/r/seduction01/02/25 07:49 PM
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I’ve known successful Casanovas that ended up alone in their later years with nothing to show for other than good memories and regretful what ifs. I felt pity and wanted to avoid that at all costs. Gaming is exciting for sure, but I’ll take a cool hot young wife, kids, travel, and a good life overall.
/r/seduction01/02/25 05:37 PM
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You are overthinking it :) Relax and enjoy the process of flirting, sexual tension, escalation, etc. Don't hide your "bad" intentions, yet don't make sex the end goal in your head. Go with the flow and have a good time. Logistically it's best to end up at your place, but anything can and will work.
/r/seduction31/01/25 05:34 PM
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Below is one of my favorite quotes (I didn't write it). Adopt that attitude, let go of the apps and go out in real life to find your dream european girl (do study game principles). Expect lots of rejection but keep at it because somewhere out there your dream girl is waiting for you to find her. "The world is your mirror. The good you find in others, is in you too. The faults you find in others, are your faults as well. After all, to recognize something you must know it. The possibilities you se…
/r/seduction31/01/25 04:00 PM
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Pen, paper, and a bottle, so I can send advice in a bottle to your future ex husband. What a basket case :) I doubt she is hot to even bother with it, a hot girl doesn't game obnoxiously like this.
/r/seduction31/01/25 03:15 PM
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I almost gave up. Luckily a 70+yo friend I was playing backgammon with taught me the important lesson of not giving up when I want something. One night she was sick without medicine in her house, and he told me to run get her the medicine she needed. So I bought the medicine and drove 30 minutes to her house at 1am, gave her the medicine and left. I remained politely persistent about taking her out. Eventually she relented, and one day she came to my house all dolled up so we can go out with my …
/r/seduction31/01/25 12:00 AM
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Since it's work, you have to tread carefully, you can make a move...without making a move... put it on her: Ask her for guidance about how to approach this cute girl, say "she is cute, let me show you a photo" (try to keep a straight face :) then pull out your phone and put it in camera mode for a selfie and hand her the phone to see the "photo". Of course, she will see herself and blush/laugh. Then proceed to role play and ask her for advice. That gives you plausible deniability. If it's not on…
/r/seduction30/01/25 06:15 PM
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Would you mind if a 10 was quiet and reserved, yet always agreed to go out and submitted to your advances? If a girl is responding, it's on. Try to let go of the carefully crafted cute conversations on apps or over text. Transition to a call or (preferable for me) video chat, make her comfortable (hopefully you are a cool guy) and arrange to take her out.
/r/seduction30/01/25 02:38 PM
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The core principles are sound and there to guide you early on. Now you are close to graduation from game university, the training is done :) You can unapologetically do you. If you feel like giving her a handwritten note at a dinner, so be it - you don't need anybody's permission, including the little voice in the back of your head that's saying you are breaking core principles, supplicating, etc. You are the man, and you are enough to have her or any other attractive cool girl you like, just th…
/r/seduction29/01/25 08:52 PM
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Hold on to that frame tightly.
/r/seduction29/01/25 06:27 PM
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Gotta break some eggs before you make an omelette. It’s fine, took me a while to calibrate. Forget online apps and go out, you will progress 1000x faster.
/r/seduction29/01/25 06:22 PM
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I hear you and I sort of agree about entitlement - run run run from demanding entitled girls. I have had some very harsh reactions early on when entitled girls demanded from me. But you have to look at it the other way too, one of the worse traits for a guy is to be el'cheapo. My mom, who was hot until her 60s (she's in her 80s now, still looks good for her age), says there is nothing that would make her run faster than a cheap guy. Cheap with money is almost always cheap with emotions (her word…
/r/seduction29/01/25 05:26 PM
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When you go out enough to have a few new girls per week to potentially take out, you will cut loose the ones that exhibit wishy-washy behavior fairly quickly. A girl that obviously likes you will be enthusiastically down for going out. With that in mind, I'd offer two different days/times as options and if she didn't pick either, and didn't counter-offer, I'd just delete the number and forget about it. When there is an endless stream of new prospects, letting one go is easy-peasy. Now the questi…
/r/seduction29/01/25 03:44 PM
2

You have to find a guy who is really good with girls that is willing to go out with you, observe you and give you advice. Hopefully a friend of yours, perhaps someone you met through the community. Join a local group, and figure out who the very best guys are, and befriend them.
/r/seduction29/01/25 01:13 PM
2

If it was me, I'd get her # and facetime her. She could be a cool chick that's flirting/joking or an entitled train wreck. A 10 minute video chat should clue you in. Don't waste your time with train wrecks.
/r/seduction28/01/25 02:09 PM
3

Your mindset is fine, it’s normal to be sensitive about something. I’m sensitive about being a bit chubby, yet I know I can attract a hottie, I’m married to one. You have to love yourself before others will. You are very young - as you get experience under your belt you will learn that some girls will hate you no matter what, and some girls will love you. All you can do is strive to be the best version of yourself, go after the girls you want, and be unfazed. Some will look past physical shortco…
/r/seduction27/01/25 03:35 PM
2

Normal. Focus on what you can comfortably do now, perhaps just a “hi” with a smile. If you can do that, it’s a win. The small wins will build up your confidence and you can slowly progress to longer interactions, like “hi, how are you?” :) Don’t be afraid to break eggs, you are not defusing nuclear bombs.
/r/seduction26/01/25 12:47 PM
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Ask her for “advice” how she would approach a coworker she likes. Then immediately use her advice on her. Keep it light and playful. You can extend the advisor frame with follow up questions “what if she’s sexy?” But I’d say keep it PG at work, and leave the more daring for the date, like “what if she’s incredibly sexy and I want to do bad things to her?”
/r/seduction26/01/25 12:32 PM
2

First, realize it's normal. I too had self esteem and other inner game issues. These things exist mostly in our heads. Don't get me wrong, you still have to evolve. I was clueless about fashion, style, grooming, game, women. I found the community, studied a lot, practiced, evolved. They say success breeds success and it's true. Once you start to have success, self esteem sorts itself out and deep down you actually believe you can achieve anything you set your eyes to. You believe you can have th…
/r/seduction24/01/25 04:43 PM
0

There should be intent what you want to do, prior to asking for a phone#. You have to own it, she either wants or not (and that's fine). For example... If I was talking to a hot girl for a while and she demonstrated cool personality, I'd switch to overt qualifying. I'd ask her about cooking, kids, travel, family, smoking, drinking, drugs, tattoos, career, academic background. If she has qualities I like, I'd tell her point blank: There is more to you than just cuteness. You are proper! I like yo…
/r/seduction23/01/25 08:15 PM
6

Buyer's remorse. I know it stung a bit, but in the grand scheme of things it's really not a big deal - you had your fun ;) Women are not like us (and that's why we love 'em), they can be emotionally fragile. Who knows how she felt later. These are cool stories to recall later and smile. I recall a similar ghosting after a couple of dates and intense hard-core fun with an Argentinian girl. I just shrugged it off and forgot all about it. Several years later I run into her - I noticed her out of my…
/r/seduction20/01/25 03:12 PM
5

Listen carefully to the advice from your buddies, especially the ones that are very good with girls. Also, I suggest you go for top A+ talent. Less bs. You should be politely persistent. Go unapologetically after what you want. Unless a girl tells you she is not interested or she leaves, it's on.
/r/seduction19/01/25 10:35 PM
2

At the 80 hrs/week grind it will be difficult to have a life out of work. I’d seriously consider your work options so you can get to a more balanced setup. Perhaps your own private practice. Then you can work on getting better with pickup.
/r/seduction19/01/25 03:04 PM
3

“I understand”, then a few seconds later “but you are so cute/beautiful/hot/sexy” while gazing in her eyes. Sit behind her while watching the movie, play with her hair, smell her neck, whisper ever so lightly in her ear something sexy like “you smell so good”, caress her body and run your hands over her tits but don’t stay on them (initially). Kiss her neck, etc. Read up on sexual communication and escalation. Don’t take what she says too seriously, you are not writing up a contract. “I understa…
/r/seduction18/01/25 12:53 PM
3

1 year dry spell is no big deal. Realize there are girls out there willing and ready to make you feel you are at the bottom of Niagara Falls ;)
/r/seduction15/01/25 06:16 PM
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The required actions to achieve that, are not really you->women but you->yourself. Focus on your own wants. Desire a beautiful house and car on the driveway? work hard, get them. Love to travel? go out and travel the world. Lust after particular type of women? Go unapologetically after them. Screw attraction and screw making a girl obsessed with you. You don't need it. And you can let your guard down, if you chose to do so. You are your own boss.
/r/seduction15/01/25 06:00 PM
4

If I could give you one piece of advice is to be a successful guy in your life in general and not worry about being cool. Skip all the guest-list, clubs, etc. and go after the beautiful girls you want that are also normal. There are plenty of beautiful girls that don't have tattoos, don't smoke, don't do drugs, don't drink, don't go to clubs. They are also wondering how to meet a successful normal guy.
/r/seduction13/01/25 09:57 PM
1

True that. When you are not good at something, you have to develop the skill and repetition helps a lot. Of course repetition alone is not enough - I have known guys that kept doing the same thing that got them nowhere. You have to be able to evolve - either learn on your own, or learn from your predecessors.
/r/seduction13/01/25 09:39 PM
8

If she ticked all my boxes and was very hot, I'd keep at it to get over the hump. Otherwise no way I'd put up with all that mess.
/r/seduction09/11/24 04:27 PM
3

Getting a 9/10 is as simple as that, sometimes, but it’s hard to believe unless you experience it first hand.
/r/seduction08/09/24 01:08 PM
2

Seduction is an art, you have to develop the skills to create attraction, see IOIs, etc. If you are fairly new, quick #closes won’t be as effective as when you are experienced and have overflowing attractiveness.
/r/seduction04/09/24 05:34 AM
1

15 pics per day, poor girl is thinking what else she has to do for you to ask her out 😂
/r/seduction31/08/24 01:57 PM
1

Don’t even worry about cancellations. They are rare if the initial interaction is good. For me, showing clear intent that I definitely want to take her out, worked best. Not sure if inviting her to the show gives the vibe that you are not super into her, intuitively I’d say don’t do it. But I’m for whatever works, if it works, stick with it.
/r/seduction31/08/24 01:53 PM
1

Once you “get it” it’s like riding a bike. It will come back very quickly.
/r/seduction31/08/24 01:43 PM
1

Some girls are downright weird. “Don’t ruin it going for a kiss” is just weird. I once had a first date with a fine lassie end at my place where kissing and first base was strictly off limits, but eating her front/rear and finishing on her face was totally fine. Don’t try to rationalize, just baby sit for another date, or two.
/r/seduction31/08/24 01:41 PM
0

Indirect for the opener and perhaps a little bit past the opener. If she demonstrates good qualities other than her looks, and you have some attraction, you can switch and show intent.
/r/seduction31/08/24 09:46 AM
1

You can get out of validation seeking and mild depression on your own (I did it). You just have to read all the community material you can get your hands on (keep what makes sense, discard what doesn’t), and practice a lot. Tell yourself you don’t care (when in fact you still do), sort of fake it til you make it. Keep studying, keep practicing, keep faking it :) I suppose for some people it never “clicks”, while for others it does in just a few months. It took me 4-5 years.
/r/seduction31/08/24 09:32 AM
1

No negs, dial down the game-y stuff to near zero and be normal. Dress sharp and take her out with one of your nice rides, and tell her about your career if she asks, but don’t talk about money, she doesn’t need to know. Do not try to show off about anything, it’s best she finds out on her own little by little.
/r/seduction30/08/24 04:36 PM
1

Pipe dream. There is no substitute for a great initial interaction that fires several attraction triggers to the point she wants to put her # and name in your phone and to make sure you remember to call her to take her out. Texting aimlessly into infinity is for the weak.
/r/seduction30/08/24 06:53 AM
0

It’s funny, when you offer a lot of value, those very ones transform to lovable puppies. But they are the worst kind of wrecks that will surely ruin your happiness down the road, you gotta hone your radar to see through the facade. The thing is, you have to go through the grind and see external beauty for what it is, while it’s addictive to get your load off on a pretty face, when her inner self is like this the overall package is crap. When you date/bang a few like this and then walk away, your…
/r/seduction30/08/24 05:17 AM
5

Kind of reminds me the story in one of the love systems audios, about the smoking hot girl stuck working at a restaurant where they only guy that asked her out was one of the latino cooks, which she gladly accepted. She ended hooking up with him haha. For a long time I thought getting it with a really hot girl is akin to defusing a nuclear bomb, then life experiences debunked this. It can be as simple as being at the right time and place, and going for it.
/r/seduction29/08/24 12:51 PM
4

Asking a hb for directions to a lounge while we were both crossing K street in DC. She knew the lounge, it was around the corner, so she walked us (me and a friend) there. I invited her to join us for a drink, which she did. A few hours later we bounced to another venue where the hot barwoman (friend) came out put her hands around me and gave me a big enthusiastic kiss on the cheek lol. Around midnight the hb said she had to work in the morning so she had to go sleep. I offered to drive her home…
/r/seduction29/08/24 12:38 PM
4

Suggest you cook at your place, if she agrees, it’s a lay. If she arrives with wine, she is likely wearing a Victoria Secret outfit, and there will be hard core fun 🤣. If she doesn’t agree, no worries, suggest she drive over so you drive together in one (your) car to wherever. When she arrives, let her in with “we are getting out of here, give me a minute” and let her wonder around your place as you get ready. Once ready, don’t linger around your place, “let’s get out of here”. This is the oppos…
/r/seduction27/08/24 12:44 PM
42

LJBF = I’m not attracted Study game, practice, don’t play safe
/r/seduction27/08/24 12:23 PM
2

You open the girls you are attracted to, and out of those some will become your dates, you will filter further, some will become your gf, you will rinse repeat and filter, and eventually some will become your wife. You are in control.
/r/seduction26/08/24 02:00 PM
1

I would not respond and just delete the #. As far as I remember, the flake the annoyed me the most was receiving the text “I can’t make it, a friend flew from Paris” as I was driving to pick her up for a second date. I get it, she lost attraction, but she could have said it an hour earlier. That’s just disrespect that I won’t put up with. Side note: Luckily God had mercy on me (since you end up with a girl you date), she was a hot 25yo Venezuelan cute as a button, but judging from her current fb…
/r/seduction26/08/24 01:39 PM
4

You can do daygame now, but it’s definitely worth trying at night too. You can join a local lair (seduction group) and make friends with guys on the same journey. I made some long time friends via my local lair, and most of my social circle at some point was through a couple of guys I met at the lair.
/r/seduction26/08/24 01:13 PM
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Mystery nailed it: we have biologically evolved to respond to survival & replication value. For a man a woman has mostly replication value (good DNA, aka attractive), for a woman a man has mostly survival value. A man better have the qualities to assure her’s and her offspring’s survival. Thus, while good looks will get you on dates, if your life is a mess, you won’t get second dates.
/r/seduction26/08/24 06:06 AM
2

“…definitely out of my league…” First step is to get rid of this thought, because it’s just not true, but I know how it is, I was once in the same place. The only way you are going to realize that no girl is out of your league is to date some girls outside of your league (🤣) and then you will be a believer that they are all in the same league with the same insecurities.
/r/seduction25/08/24 08:57 PM
2

It’s true, if you go to a hot girl cold turkey with a compliment and otherwise offer no value, she will likely yawn… yet another admirer. If you are a high value guy and get her invested a little in conversation and she turns out to actually be a happy, educated, well spoken, polite & well mannered, girly girl, no smoking, no drinking, no tattoos, no fake nails/boobs/eye lashes, in other words a rare specimen (incredibly attractive for me). Now a sincere compliment is a different story, somethin…
/r/seduction25/08/24 12:16 PM
0

I never developed that kind of charisma. However, in the end I figured out how to get exactly what I wanted. It’s the goal that counts.
/r/seduction24/08/24 09:26 PM
0

In Thailand you can rent a nice 7-seater SUV from “biz car rental” in BKK airport for around $3.5k for 2-3 months unlimited miles and roam the entire country, off the beaten path. Stop at coffee shops at gas stations (Amazon), 7-elevens, big-c malls, central malls, other malls. I went to Thailand knowing exactly the type I was looking for (I had a very hot exotic Thai-American gf in the US) and I wanted something along those lines looks wise minus the western baggage. The average Thai girl is no…
/r/seduction24/08/24 03:37 PM
2

When you don’t know what’s possible… you can easily arrive at the wrong conclusions. I suggest you find a local lair (seduction group), go to meetings, find the best guys there, and hangout with them. When I was starting out, I was lucky that a guy from the DC lair invited me to hang out with him one summer afternoon in DC. He asked me to watch and write an FR about it. It’s one thing to read stories in books or online or watch videos, and another to see it in front of you with your own eyes. Th…
/r/seduction24/08/24 09:20 AM
2

Pickup is an art, you can literally make cold approaches feel a lot “warmer” out of thin air, little things make a big difference. Open with your body facing away from her Time constraint Disqualify social proof (be seen with others, that can be engineered too, if you are alone in a venue) preselection (be seen with girls, that can be engineered too, if you are alone in a venue) Many keyboard-theoreticians know about these, but I’ve seen guys forget to implement them when in action, including (i…
/r/seduction24/08/24 08:29 AM
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If/when you have a little voice inside your head saying you are too old to be getting beautiful 20-somethings, tell it to shut up because there are plenty of guys in their 40s doing it. My wife is 19 years younger. You just have to commit to studying game, practice, study, practice, and it eventually clicks. You have to get ready for your dream girls, they are out there wanting to be with you right now, but realistically (I’m projecting my own self when I was starting) you are not ready yet.
/r/seduction24/08/24 07:32 AM
1

Anything can work, and if it works it’s good game. No need to keyboard-theorize. Try direct, indirect, and a mix of both. There is no magic to direct, the hot ones have heard they are hot a million times, it’s how you stand behind it. If you are a beginner direct will likely frustrate you more.
/r/seduction24/08/24 12:43 AM
1

Contractor within the company you work for that you suspect is married… this is an IQ test, don’t fail it. You have nothing to gain and your job to lose.
/r/seduction24/08/24 12:23 AM
1

First accept that mom & dad did they best they knew how to. Now it’s time to learn or relearn things properly on your own. Study game material, practice, and you will be fine. Had to go through the same process.
/r/seduction23/08/24 11:59 PM
2

If you can’t cold approach in SE Asia, there is a problem ;) dial down your game, and go after the hottest girls far away from bars. Expect most girls not to speak much English.
/r/seduction23/08/24 07:10 PM
1

I don’t have the list handy, but I recall I had worked it backwards. Just make a list of movies staring Cary Grand, Sean Connery, George Clooney. Study how they dress, how they carry themselves, how they talk.
/r/seduction23/08/24 06:45 PM
2

I’ve heard this complaint from a lot of guys in the community, so I’d dare say it’s normal, don’t worry. There is no substitute for experience, keep at it, but at the same time study material. Watch RSD’s “Blueprint Decoded”, and other such good stuff. Focus on inner game, make sure you are on a steady path of self improvement. You’ll break a lot of eggs, but eventually you’ll be making the omelets you want.
/r/seduction23/08/24 01:46 PM
1

In my experience texting aimlessly doesn’t end well. Transition to video call or phone asap, and create comfort. The date will come, don’t push for it.
/r/seduction22/08/24 07:31 PM
8

You have enough attraction to get them on dates, even have sex, but it fades. In womanese “you are nice and sympathetic, but…” = I’m no longer attracted to you. Don’t take it personally, it’s strictly business. You can fix it. Assuming your life is in good order, it could be the sex is bad (watch porn, read David Deangelo’s Sex Secrets). It could be you are too nice, watch Zan’s Way of the natural, don’t try to please them, enjoy them. Don’t try to be their friend, have sex, then do your thing. …
/r/seduction22/08/24 06:14 PM
1

Don’t overtext. Keep text to a minimum. Video chat is great for building comfort. Don’t feel obliged to run game-y stuff once you are in, and you were in. Perhaps the last thing you told her did trigger something in her, I don’t know. You are probably in damage control. I would not text her unless she initiates it. I’d wait until a day I felt A+++ and call her while driving without thinking what to say, just call to “check up on my beautiful blond” (or brunette, or find whatever else to insert).…
/r/seduction22/08/24 04:24 AM
1

Simple. Go to the most attractive and tell her “you caught my eye, I had to come over to talk to you”.
/r/seduction22/08/24 03:35 AM
3

Do not worry about your age. But you don’t have to believe me, you will see for yourself that it’s not an issue. You don’t need anything pre-planed to say. Again, as you get into your groove you will arrive at this epiphany (haha) on your own. Until then you can think of whatever as an opener, like “I saw you from over there and thought you’re attractive and had to come over to talk to you”. Keep it simple. After a minute or two tell her “I want to take you out, if you are cool with it let’s exc…
/r/seduction22/08/24 03:21 AM
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Avg looking guy here, started with game as afc at 36, zero success online, focused exclusively in-person. It took a while to figure things out, but by the time I was 41-42 I was hitting it with hotties in their 20s and 30s. “I don’t discriminate based on age, only cuteness” was my line if a girl brought up the age gap, and it was true. I ended up marrying my dream girl at 47, she was 28. We now have 3 kids and life is good. Constantly getting the looks anywhere we go, not only she still looks st…
/r/seduction22/08/24 01:29 AM
5

It wasn’t a sudden & clear transformation. Looking back I can see that successes in other areas of life gradually elevated my confidence. When confidence and outer game fake-it-til-you-make-it reeled in a few hotties, my confidence went even higher. The results reinforced things into my head, and I “left” the outer game act and became more of myself. Hard core pleasures with hot 20-somethings also gave a boost, because I was so freaking deprived in my 20s and 30s when the closest I got to hot 🐈 …
/r/seduction21/08/24 08:45 PM
6

Exact opposite experience for me. I’m sure some guys have mega success with dating apps, not me. 5’9 (1.75m), started with game at 36yo, in retrospect I had super lame profile photos and unsurprisingly got little interest. I figured my only option was in-person game and focused exclusively on it. Success with hot girls took a while, around 4-5 years. In retrospect, if I had to do online again I think I could pull it off successfully. But, without being a natural, you have to have the experience …
/r/seduction21/08/24 10:21 AM
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Absolutely not, don’t kiss and tell. If she wants to say something, fine, but mind your business.
/r/seduction20/08/24 09:00 AM
2

I wished you had solicited her (30) opinion about how to ask out a beautiful woman you work with. And then do exactly what she recommended, on her (30). Keeping it light and fun. But anyway, given that you asked, you could have had said “oh, please don’t make me change departments, I will if I have to smile, actually I take it all back, I’m putting me 1-day notice, Wednesday or Thursday work for you?”, keeping it light and fun, and don’t take what she says as a contract. If you have a hot 22 yo …
/r/seduction20/08/24 03:50 AM
13

Erick Ronaldo on YouTube. 26 is fine. You can approach any girl walking on campus.
/r/seduction20/08/24 03:20 AM
1

If she was one of my dates, I’d think it’s super totally on. Perhaps you can call me delusionally optimistic, but I really think it’s on. Women can lose “state”, you have to maintain it. Calling and video chatting is the best way I know how to keep them addicted. Early on I used to aimlessly over text and that definitely didn’t work. When I got good, I used texting mostly for date requests & logistics, and phone/video to maintain comfort. When on the phone and she is comfie with you, something l…
/r/seduction20/08/24 03:08 AM
2

In womanese “maybe” = yes, no need to ask a woman to clarify, you are in if she says maybe. Also, don’t over game, act aloof, or purposely delay responses. I had a handsome wing that lost a ton of girls after 1-2 dates because of overgaming and inner game issues. At this point I’d pick up the phone and call her. I know you probably don’t want to hear this, but if you want her, that’s the way - I have revived non responders via phone calls/voice mails. I would call after an amazing day at work, o…
/r/seduction20/08/24 02:15 AM
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Good stuff. About complimenting a hot girl on her looks - there is a place and time for it that I’ve found to be effective. Upon picking her up when getting out of the car to greet and open the door for her, a sincere “I love your outfit, you look stunning”, followed by a hug and quick peck on her lips is great to set the right tone for a first date (assuming there is already attraction since all my dates came from gaming in-person).
/r/seduction20/08/24 01:32 AM
0

The tribal leader is never broke.
/r/seduction19/08/24 01:08 PM
1

Don’t worry about it, you do you.
/r/seduction19/08/24 01:03 PM
0

Why does a rookie fisherman catch big fish? After all, there are many experienced fishermen out there? Have you heard the phrase “you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take”? Well if you take lots of shots, some will go in.
/r/seduction19/08/24 12:46 PM
2

If after she agrees to go out she cancels and offers a reschedule day, all is good. If she cancels again or never offers to reschedule, delete the number and forget she exists. Frankly, once you get good you stop caring or noticing flakes. You arrange dates from your roster of 🐈 during the week, and add to the roster new 🐈 from gaming on weekends, flakes are just part of cleanup.
/r/seduction19/08/24 12:29 PM
5

Anything can and will work some % of the time, you just have to do it. Watch Erick Ronaldo on YouTube.
/r/seduction19/08/24 11:50 AM
21

A low probability super quick/weak interaction with a hottie can result to mind blowing sex and a gf, while a solid (in your mind) high probability interaction with a cute girl ends in… no response. Maybe the hottie just moved to the area, has no friends, and is glad to have a guy take her out and take her home. Maybe the cute one is a total train wreck and has the attention span of a gold fish. There are no guarantees, trust the universe to give you your fare share of 🐈
/r/seduction19/08/24 11:48 AM
2

I don’t even remember all the screwups, there were too many. I started with girls on a pedestal, and me trying to prove myself. Not good. If you are successful career-wise, you sort of have to drag yourself through the mud to get the experience, then it gets better. In the end you see girls for what they are :)
/r/seduction19/08/24 06:04 AM
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You might be playing too safe on first dates. Upon meeting, a hug and quick peck on the lips gets the sexual tension going, then periodically amplify it. For example, innuendos how she has seduced you with her stunning beauty and she has no idea of the bad things you’d do to her if it wasn’t for all the people around. At the beginning I screwed up plenty of dates as well, but with practice and experience you will figure out how to use her beauty and sexiness to build lots of sexual tension.
/r/seduction18/08/24 08:18 PM
2

There is truth to this, I have known disillusioned screwups that actually believed their own bs and could get some hot girls, but I’ve never seen it end well.
/r/seduction18/08/24 07:16 AM
0

The advice is repetitive because it’s what works. Use this sub to get ideas on what to study.
/r/seduction18/08/24 06:19 AM
8

Now is the time to focus on being a good student graduating near the top of your class, and going to the school’s gym regularly. You should be building your foundation for your career (wealth) and body (health). If you are not a natural with girls, it will take effort to learn game and practice, I recommended doing that after you start your career. Nevertheless getting a date here and there can be your side activity, watch Erick Ronaldo on YouTube and approach girls. Make sure you keep it a low …
/r/seduction18/08/24 06:16 AM
5

If you don’t have a university degree or technical diploma, figure out what you want to do and go study. It will pay dividends for the rest of your life.
/r/seduction18/08/24 06:06 AM
2

Watching Erick Ronaldo on YouTube is a hellava motivation to go and have fun with it
/r/seduction17/08/24 01:51 PM
4

There is a bigger picture to the game journey, that of personal growth. Succeed in your career/business, be more educated, centered, confident, traveled. When you constantly strive to be the best version of yourself, you are on a path to become a better and happier person, and the natural ups and downs of your dating life will not affect your sense of well being. Of course having an amazing woman next to you brings that much more enjoyment, but she can’t be your source of happiness.
/r/seduction17/08/24 01:48 PM
0

You can’t change your height but you can max out the other attraction factors. Like, build a business and become mega-successful, lead other men, sharp grooming & clothing, continue to workout. Becoming successful can take time but the reality is at 5’2 lacking some sort of high status, you are swimming upstream. Actually, come to think of it, there are some high tech shoes that add a few inches to your height. Maybe you can them.
/r/seduction17/08/24 01:28 PM
3

Realize that nothing bad happens if you escalate too fast. You may get the cheek or she might say she is not comfortable, which really means she is not comfortable YET. Your answer should always be “I understand”, remain unaffected, slow down, and try again later. She will love you for escalating (at her pace). Now, if you don’t escalate or escalate too slow, some inexperienced women will be patient, but for most attractive women the window of opportunity will be shut-closed after a date.
/r/seduction16/08/24 08:52 PM
2

Stop gaming the counselor, nothing to gain there. Height can be an issue for a lot of attractive women, but these are the cards you were dealt and you can overcome it by cleaning up your act (stop drinking), and become a very successful self made man. Most women are not after your money, but the reality is a successful man has the confidence, the aura, and the lifestyle that make him super attractive to women.
/r/seduction16/08/24 08:37 PM
1

It’s ok to do that if you are young, but realize nothing lasts forever, you have certain finite time at your prime. Use it wisely. I’ve seen good players end up either alone or with avg wives.
/r/seduction16/08/24 08:08 PM
6

Read up on sexual communication and sexual tension. You don’t want to ask. If a girl is on a date with you, she is down. It’s your job to smoothly escalate.
/r/seduction16/08/24 12:07 PM
3

Do you watch porn? Do you have the urge to do naughty things to an attractive girl?
/r/seduction16/08/24 11:59 AM
2

Try to find “Deep inner game” by David Deangelo. Old but good. If you are an ok looking man with a decent career but struggling with women, my experience is that it can be fixed so long you commit to doing whatever it takes. You can use training wheels (seduction community ebooks/videos/audios) to engineer small successes. The small successes will raise your confidence and self esteem. The higher confidence will raise your game. It’s a feedback loop.
/r/seduction16/08/24 11:56 AM
0

Look for the recommended ebooks/videos/audios and study game. Then go out practice. Study, practice, study, practice. Eventually it clicks.
/r/seduction15/08/24 02:37 PM
1

Even my wife of 7 years would not want to handle such socially unintelligent guy, she would be polite and play along until I returned to the table, then he would probably leave on his own if he’s smart. Don’t let anyone disrespect you like that, ever. Not for the girl, it’s a matter of principle for you as a man.
/r/seduction15/08/24 01:06 PM
2

You describe me basically. I started at 36 and got good results at 41-42.
/r/seduction15/08/24 09:25 AM
0

I thought the same, but I have another friend (CEO of a successful startup) also in PR and he is having zero success online. My intuition is the trader put a lot of effort into his photos and he is getting a good return out of it.
/r/seduction15/08/24 06:33 AM
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I know a 40yo American pro trader living in Puerto Rico that hired a pro photographer to shoot specifically for his online presence. He is mega successful online, seeing multiple hot 20-something’s. If you are reasonably looking and willing to do whatever it takes, you can make it work.
/r/seduction15/08/24 06:17 AM
4

You did fine, it’s sort of expected to get nervous and fumble when you start. Play cool, and see if she comes to you next time you see each other. If so, proceed.
/r/seduction14/08/24 09:56 PM
1

I suggest you skip tinder and learn how to game girls in person (study the recommended ebooks/videos/audios). You can then practice wherever there are cute girls, like the Cosmos mall in Thessaloniki (I was there two days ago haha).
/r/seduction14/08/24 09:48 PM
2

If you do OK gaming girls in person, and 0 matches on tinder, your photos are not good or you are not photogenic, or you are in a bad location. I never had any success on tinder near home, but I randomly opened tinder during a trip to California and was shocked how many matches with cute girls I had, particularly in Santa Monica.
/r/seduction14/08/24 09:30 PM
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I’d bypass the dancing. Either ask mom if she is cool with you taking her daughter out, or ask the girl directly if her mom would be cool with you taking her out haha. Keep it light and fun.
/r/seduction14/08/24 09:13 PM
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It’s ok, I watched (still do) porn and I did fine haha. Just realize you can act out your fantasies with pretty girls. Study game, and go out practice.
/r/seduction14/08/24 01:57 PM
2

Not always :-) I just saw a stunning brunette, long black hair, at least 1.65m, perfect body, in a bikini, dropped off right in front of my villa by a seedy skinny guy driving a beaten up old pickup track with local Greek tags. I’m assuming they both work at the same hotel and out of her limited options there he was the only one with the courage to ask her out and she was very happy to accept. Yesterday I saw a beautiful young blond girl and a young goofball ugly dude get out of an old Yugo (or …
/r/seduction14/08/24 01:55 PM
7

You need to make friends with someone already good with women. He will be able to see things about yourself that you can’t see. Also, hopefully you can go out and game together and observe his interactions with women and understand how it’s done and what’s possible. Once you polish whatever needs polishing, things improve rapidly. It’s the finding of what needs polishing and the polishing itself that takes time haha. Good luck.
/r/seduction14/08/24 08:11 AM
1

There is none, just gotta put in the time & effort, and she’ll come along.
/r/seduction14/08/24 06:52 AM
15

At the ripe age of 36 I realized I had to change course. I found the community and immersed myself in studying game and sarging 4 days per week. The effort/reward was very poor, nevertheless I was enthusiastic and believed in incremental progress. By year 5 my social circles had expanded massively, I had financial success, I travelled, I hit the gym 5 days a week. I had my own house, I bought my first GTR, I changed my look from that of a pua wannabe with cool jeans to the successful guy in GQ c…
/r/seduction14/08/24 06:45 AM
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I really like the “I might be a bit forward” preface which shows social intelligence and highlights that you confidently go after what you want (very attractive), but instead of the date question (too official) I’d prefer the statement: I might be a bit forward, but I’d definitely want to take you out. If you are cool with it let’s exchange numbers. It’s essentially the same thing, but requires less of a compliance threshold, instead of asking a question and forcing her to give a yes/no/maybe yo…
/r/seduction13/08/24 04:54 PM
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Eventually you will meet your 10, and after so many years of mentally saying “no”, you will quickly say “yes”. It’ll hit you like a ton of bricks. For me the journey lasted 10 years.
/r/seduction13/08/24 12:06 PM
1

I have gotten the “I don’t normally give out my #, let me give you my email” to which I replied “listen, I’m leaving for Greece in a month, so either it’s going to happen and I’m going to take you out before I leave, or not, it’s gonna be ok, I don’t bite”, she gave her #, came to my house to drive out in one car, and upon returning she slept over in another room, but in the morning I woke up with her beautiful face staring at me, and we had fun ;) Go for the # with your intent clearly & confide…
/r/seduction13/08/24 04:32 AM
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5-7s are a PITA, 8-10s are fine when you are attractive and they know you have options
/r/seduction12/08/24 08:19 PM
3

Anything can work, but my default for girls I met on the weekend was to text the date request on Tuesday and give Wed or Thu as the two choices. Weekends reserved for gaming, or a (special) girl that graduated to weekends.
/r/seduction12/08/24 05:14 PM
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Women can smell desperation from a mile away even through photos, but don’t worry, it’s all fixable. You will have to study game and fake-it-til-you-make-it. Check this sub for recommended ebooks/videos/audios. Study, practice, study, practice. 10 months is no big deal. After you educate yourself and practice, you will be getting some girls. It took me 4-5 years before getting hot ones, but that’s simply because it took me that long to really believe I was enough. An attractive tall guy with his…
/r/seduction12/08/24 05:03 PM
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From my experience, texting aimlessly without intent is not good. My very first text would state that I definitely want to take her out and would give a couple of days as options and ask her if it works for her. High success rate even when it was a super quick # close to a super hot girl.
/r/seduction12/08/24 08:14 AM
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You seem to have a good handle on things at just 26yo, I think you will do great. You are just fine-tuning your radar now. I recommend deleting apps and meet attractive girls organically in person, you can filter out a lot of the junk.
/r/seduction11/08/24 04:05 PM
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If I waited for looks and signals I’d be alone. None of that matters. What matters is taking action and going after the ones you fancy.
/r/seduction11/08/24 11:17 AM
1

Been there. It resolves itself once you commit to going after your dream women and stop playing it “safe” in the pack of your friends. Walk away from the guys and do your thing in the same venue.
/r/seduction11/08/24 09:31 AM
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If you find her stunning, that’s your signal :) Without even thinking about it I would complement, give a hug and peck on her lips as I opened the car door when picking her up. Don’t overthink it, why do you think she spent hours upon hours picking up the hot dress, shoes, do her hair, nails, makeup etc, and go out with you?
/r/seduction11/08/24 09:13 AM
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That’s the opposite to what I experienced when I started to date hot women. No games no bs. But, I was upfront with my intentions to taking her out.
/r/seduction11/08/24 08:39 AM
2

While there are attractive women in the US, the problem is the western society has tainted most of them to act a lot like guys. To me that’s super unattractive. So even if you cut your game teeth here and get your share of attractive girls, you are in for a shock when you visit other markets where women are still… women. I’m so lucky and thankful to be married to a woman born and raised on a farm in Thailand.
/r/seduction10/08/24 03:30 PM
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It’s so difficult to convince you to really believe you can have the women of your dreams (I was no exception) when all of your life’s experience says otherwise. The turning point for me was having a few experiences that contradicted the little naysayer voice in me. Once I got over that hill, I really did believe I’m good enough for any girl I want, and that in itself is “game”. At that point it really is a matter of going after the girls you want. The problem is how to get to that point. For me…
/r/seduction10/08/24 03:03 PM
1

“I’ll do those things eventually” There is no eventually, the time is now.
/r/seduction09/08/24 10:05 PM
2

It’s amazing what success does to your self esteem. It’s a bootstrapping problem, and you have to take any tiny success you can take, and build off it. Succeed at work, at some sport, at some hobby, with some girl, study, practice, succeed more, so on. At 23 you are a puppy with plenty of time to work on things, I didn’t start until 36 and still managed to get to the end goal 10 years later. You have a big head start!
/r/seduction09/08/24 09:33 PM
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Don’t listen to nonsense about aiming for sex on the first date. Instead of pushing, let it come whenever, you should be escalating not because you are a hungry to hump her leg but because you can’t resist her seductive beauty/sexiness. If she objects to your escalation, stay cool “I understand” and try later. It’s a fine line to be escalating without putting pressure on her or you. It comes when it comes.
/r/seduction09/08/24 12:37 PM
2

At first I was just happy to break a 10-year dry period with dates and sex but I broke a lot of eggs to make omelets lol. I’d say the effort/reward was very poor but I was happy nevertheless to be getting the crumbs I was getting here and there. Meanwhile everything else in my life was going pretty good, I made good investments during the financial crisis, I was respected at work, I dressed and acted the part, my self esteem and confidence slowly grew. Then I got the validation by dating four ho…
/r/seduction09/08/24 06:28 AM
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Pay attention to her actions. A woman that is attracted to you will make it super easy. She will respond to your texts pronto, she will jump at every opportunity to be with you. When you had her face to face you should had gotten out of gossip friend mode and laid down the law. You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take. Don’t play it safe again with other girls.
/r/seduction08/08/24 08:40 PM
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Stick with it, it took me 5 years before things clicked, 10 years before finding “the one”. I’m guessing you are handsome but your inner game needs work. It can all be fixed. You likely have blind spots, things (usually negative) you are not aware about yourself, but others can see them. You will have to figure out what they are and work on them. You have to take an objective honest look at yourself, maybe ask for outside assistance. Obviously don’t be bitter or blame the women. Attraction is no…
/r/seduction08/08/24 08:24 PM
1

You don’t have to be constantly gaming. Good game doesn’t feel like game :) Inevitably you will come across some really attractive women, and you just go for it. That’s game. Off the top of my head I can recall opportunities I took at whole foods, crossing the street, parking the car. It just happened. You can do it while wearing anything, but I always want to look good (for me).
/r/seduction08/08/24 03:38 PM
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Skip the trashy venues, dress accordingly and go to upscale places. Whenever you go about your business during the day (groceries, mall, etc) dress good and approach girls that catch your attention.
/r/seduction08/08/24 12:29 PM
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Google/torrent David Deangelo’s double your dating ebooks and videos. Deep inner game, sex secrets, sexual communication, audios of interviews with dating gurus. Find the Venusian Arts Handbook, 2nd edition, by Mystery (my all time favorite, if you want to read just one ebook, that’s the one). Find Magic Bullets. Find the Blueprint Decoded videos by RSD’s Tyler Durdent. There are lots of other good stuff but that’s a good start. Stop self deprecating. I understand your frustration but realize th…
/r/seduction08/08/24 12:13 PM
1

“Game” changed my life too. It’s not just about women. As you educate yourself and practice, you will become more attractive and you will have many successes. Look back at your time in university learning mathematics, it’s the same thing. Enjoy your time now learning, you will eventually graduate to dating the women of your dreams and look back and this time very fondly. Math is a science, game is an art, so you will be training a different part of your brain :)
/r/seduction08/08/24 07:46 AM
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I was you. You have to make the decision, and commit to do whatever it takes to find your 10. Study, practice, break lots of eggs. Easier said than done. Most men fail along the way and settle for junk they regret, I see it in their face all the time.
/r/seduction07/08/24 10:07 PM
1

I have no experience with older, but with the younger girls the theory says you want to delay any talk about age, preferably until after sex. The idea being they are already addicted to you :) In practice I never followed theory as it was never an issue to say “I’m 40-46” to 19-29yo girls even on day0, if they asked. I’m sure some may object but personal experience is most girls don’t have issue if you don’t and they find you overall attractive. I ended up marrying at 46 to a 27yo. But, I was ha…
/r/seduction07/08/24 02:00 PM
1

Good points, at 32 she is already too old for being single, and should not waste time with a much younger guy :)
/r/seduction07/08/24 01:32 PM
2

You gotta study game. A few lines for dealing with AMOGs are enough, like my favorite “if I was gay I’d totally f* you”, or “it’s ok man, it’s cool, keep at it, you’ll eventually get it”. As your confidence level elevates and you talk with girls of particular quality, nobody will bother you anyway. They will be too intimidated by the girls and/or you.
/r/seduction07/08/24 01:25 PM
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Short: you overall value > her value Longer: There is no substitute for being an attractive successful confident man that tears her up in bed. So for a stunning girl you better bring lots to the table. You also better select the right girl to begin with. After years of dating in the west I concluded that there is certain baggage that comes with most western girls, that is not conducive to a man’s long term happiness.
/r/seduction06/08/24 03:49 PM
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Honest or not, it doesn’t matter. However you look right now, put your best self forward and unapologetically go after your dreams. The universe eventually aligns you with what you are after.
/r/seduction06/08/24 10:15 AM
1

By “don’t care” I mean when you have abundance, you are less outcome dependent and you just enjoy the interactions with beautiful girls.
/r/seduction06/08/24 09:58 AM
1

You have a high quality problem. Your escalation is too fast/aggressive. Dial it back. Anything can work and will work if you own it. For me what eventually worked great was to be direct about my intent to take her out. At that point it’s essentially babysitting for 1-3 dates.
/r/seduction06/08/24 03:22 AM
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I have had the exact same happen to me. She eventually told me the truth, she was going through a divorce. I persisted very gently, calling/texting once in a while, eventually she came around and it turned out to be a lot of fun. So I would say back off a little, but don’t give up, ping her once in a while. Maybe she is going through something or she is looking for a casual fling, or maybe she doesn’t dig you, who knows.
/r/seduction06/08/24 02:32 AM
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This. Self restraint for now. Eventually when you date hotties, new prospects will smell it before you open your mouth, even through text. Nothing will matter, you won’t care anyway.
/r/seduction06/08/24 01:36 AM
2

Although I still have my big game digital library, it has been 14 years since I looked at it. The only two items that I recall from memory is David DeAngelo’s Sex Secrets, and Sexual Communication. There is probably a lot of ideas that I got from many other different places that I don’t remember now. The above material is super old and probably not available anymore (maybe on torrent). I’m sure you can find good current stuff. Watching porn for ideas and acting out your fantasies is also ok, eve…
/r/seduction06/08/24 01:30 AM
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While you can’t change the mind of a girl that categorized you as a NO, you will be in the MAYBE category most of the time, with varying degrees of maybeness. I was once told “I never thought I’d be with you in a million years”. Just by virtue of being out there gaming, even some of those low probability maybes will inevitably convert. Do you really convince the girl, or the universe throws her your way by the law of averages? Who knows. Call it “making her interested” or “being out there trying…
/r/seduction06/08/24 12:04 AM
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Keep at it and enjoy the process :) One day you will look back very fondly.
/r/seduction05/08/24 10:42 PM
2

There are ebooks, audio, and video guides about sex and sexual communication. If you are willing to invest some study time, you will be rewarded with intense fun (+ confidence). Congrats!
/r/seduction05/08/24 10:08 PM
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This is akin to hanging up to a spam call, or walking past a beggar. You did not create any attraction, she does not find you attractive, you are not her type, she is not interested and does not want anything romantic. Most women don’t want confrontation or let down the guy, so this is an easy way out. If you are an attractive guy with lots of options, you won’t get this line much if at all, even if she has a bf. Many women are willing to give out their info to an attractive man (and I’m not tal…
/r/seduction05/08/24 04:26 PM
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Good, now I suggest a simple text in a day or two: “I believe in fate, plus you are cute - I definitely want to take you out. Does Wednesday or Thursday work?”
/r/seduction05/08/24 02:13 PM
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Study game, practice, study, practice, accept that some girls will be into you some won’t. Game is the art of putting the best version of yourself forward while having the almost irrational confidence to not care what they think or seek their approval. You are already an attractive successful man that has options with beautiful girls. If not already true, you just have to get experience under your belt and it’ll eventually be true. Study, practice, study, practice. Also, if you get a harsh react…
/r/seduction05/08/24 05:45 AM
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No. Avoid verbal bragging even if done overtly, it’s rather transparent to others and a DLV. You don’t need to offer this kind of information to women. Wealthy people don’t say “I’m rich”, or “I drive a Ferrari”, but a wealthy guy that attracted a hottie with his game and his overall attractiveness may pickup his date in his Ferrari and take her to a restaurant where he is greeted by the hostess with “hello Mr. Smith, please allow me” and treated like a king by the restaurant staff. This is diff…
/r/seduction04/08/24 12:57 PM
1

The island of Rodos in Greece is packed with Swedish women in the summer, most of them looking for good times with Greek men, but I’m sure if you have game and have dark features you’ll do fine with them.
/r/seduction04/08/24 03:50 AM
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If they are friends, don’t try to put both on the rotation, it won’t end well once they find out. It sounds like you know what you are doing, and I’m all for whatever works, and if it works don’t change it. In general I found out that instead of giving cute indirect reasons for the #close, it worked best to let my intentions unmistakably known as with “you are cute and I like you, I definitely want to take you out” or something of that sort. This says some good things about you, a DHV in itself,…
/r/seduction04/08/24 02:45 AM
1

Study game at home, but when you are out don’t think too much. You will have times where everything happens so naturally without even thinking (it’s called being in state). That’s where you want to be.
/r/seduction04/08/24 02:17 AM
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You are a man and she is a woman. You want to pet her because she’s a cutie but if she doesn’t want to be petted, she is free to fly away. Don’t try to attach meanings. Just like you wouldn’t want to attach meanings when a 10 likes you. It is what it is.
/r/seduction04/08/24 12:24 AM
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Game is not really what you say, it’s the man you are. Looks just open doors, and that’s about it, don’t get hang up about looks. An ok looking guy that is confident, successful, educated, well groomed/spoken/travelled/dressed can be massively attractive to women (and hence successful with women). Tone down all the slicing and dicing with outer game, and try to improve as a man, little by little. It takes time but it’s worth it. Go unapologetically for the women that are your 10s. It’s all work …
/r/seduction04/08/24 12:06 AM
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It’s not a matter of balls. To get something you never had you have to do something you never did. You can fantasize on redtube, or you can live your fantasies (and hers) in person. The choice is yours.
/r/seduction03/08/24 11:42 PM
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I am surprised with the advice so far. If you want her, you can have her. It’s so ridiculously on. Don’t take what she says literally, she is putting up token resistance. When in doubt, look at actions. If a woman doesn’t like you she is not going to linger around you like that. So she definitely likes you. Your role is to teach this inexperienced girl how to be a good gf. I can’t describe in a few lines how to do it, in general you have to be cool and unaffected by her antics, similar to how yo…
/r/seduction03/08/24 11:32 PM
1

As you get more experienced you won’t worry about other guys - they all just blur into the background. Some girls might acknowledge and talk to them, others will roll their eyes and will want to move a few feet to chat with you! Whatever it is, roll with it. If there is attraction you can always take her hand and move her a few feet.
/r/seduction03/08/24 03:24 PM
1

Indeed my wife is 19 years younger than me, gorgeous and a sweetheart. We now have three adorable kiddos. I am a lucky guy. You have to get some experience under your belt and realize there are beautiful young girls around you, some of which would love to be with you right now. I believe your value should be > hers. Thus, if she is a stunningly hot young sweet girl, you do have to bring a lot to the table, not necessarily a six pack, massive wealth, status, or incredible game. An overall attract…
/r/seduction02/08/24 11:46 PM
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Pickup forums and guys you meet in the field. I ended up developing a few lasting friendships and big social circles this way, which helped a lot. Although one thing I found out is once I had success with hot girls, some of my “friends” behaved like dodgy punters. Not that it mattered, just a little annoying.
/r/seduction02/08/24 04:18 AM
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Nope, there is not more to it. You figured it out. For me, game is summed up as: your ability to unapologetically and persistently go after your dreams. Easier said than done. Saying to a newbie “just go after it” doesn’t help. For success in anything, you have to study theory from your great predecessors, practice and persist. That usually takes a few years.
/r/seduction02/08/24 03:59 AM
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You are under no obligation to be cool and respond to such obnoxious behavior. Put your index finger up to him (as if you are putting him on hold) and ignore, don’t even acknowledge. Continue talking to her.
/r/seduction02/08/24 03:36 AM
1

Attraction is not a choice. The same “ewww” guy can come out of his just parked GT-R wearing his Versace suit looking $$, and casually ask a young Asian hottie walking her dog if the parking meter needs to be fed at this time, small talk ensues and a few days later his tongue is in places it shouldn’t be.
/r/seduction02/08/24 02:27 AM
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At 40yo you can easily date any age girl you want, but by now you have to have your act together as an attractive man and not even blink about her age, for real. If you are cool with it, she will be too, if she is attracted to you :) My success came in my 40s and all of the girls I dated were younger than me, often much younger (20s). Although, I never really discriminated on age, only cuteness :) My wife is 19 years younger.
/r/seduction02/08/24 02:09 AM
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Just by reading your post I predict you will eventually do great. Learning game is sort of like training wheels to get you some experience, and snowball it from there. So learning game is definitely a good thing. But realize you don’t need to be a high energy “performer” to trick girls into taking off their panties for you. You won’t be tricking anyone anyway, not the girls you’d want. If you are passionate with the things you love, including girls and your career, that can develop into an almos…
/r/seduction02/08/24 01:47 AM
1

Late? I started at 36. You are waaaay early! Focus on having an overall good base, education, manners, character, career, etc. To figure out quickly what going on you can study seduction theory (ebooks, videos, audios), but I would focus on building a solid foundation first.
/r/seduction30/07/24 03:25 AM
1

You had physical touch and some sexual tension, these are attraction switches. Since it’s so early, leaving some mystery is good for attraction. What are you worried about? It’s on.
/r/seduction30/07/24 03:00 AM
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To unapologetically go after my dreams. Study the great predecessors and learn from them, practice, evolve, and develop my own intuition. Have conviction while accepting sometimes I will be wrong and will need to adjust.
/r/seduction29/07/24 10:52 PM
1

Good advice already. It’s part of the calibration process. Turn down the escalation knob a bit, keep the sexual tension (instead of releasing by going all out), be a bit of a mystery and let her fantasize about you and want the day2. If you are not familiar with sexual tension and sexual communication, study it, it’s an art.
/r/seduction29/07/24 10:19 PM
3

Simple solution: develop the criteria of your ideal wife (other than looks) and approach only girls that you find incredibly attractive. Filter hard-core based on your criteria.
/r/seduction29/07/24 09:09 PM
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I eventually developed my own hypothesis that game from an attractive man is perhaps too much for a 7 and below. I had all sorts of issues with “practicing” on less attractive girls. At some point I stopped wasting time on them. The point of game, for me, was not body count but to have a quality hot gf and wife.
/r/seduction29/07/24 08:36 PM
1

When I just starting to have successes, I recall one time I was picking up a hottie for a day1, and it happened naturally and unplanned… we hugged, I was totally stunned by the way she looked, I gave her a quick kiss on the lips (a peck), mentioned that she looked stunning, and opened the door. This was a first for me, as I was usually tardy on escalation. Later I realized this is great, it says all the right things for the kind of attractive man you are, and sets the tone for smooth escalation.…
/r/seduction28/07/24 03:08 PM
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When it comes to turning off a woman these are high on the list: a man overly eager to hump her leg a man that's cry baby after she doesn't go along with some escalation (kino, sexual etc) The autopilot response should be "I understand. I might be moving too fast, I just can't help myself, you are so adorable, but I understand", and be totally cool about it, don't let anything affect you. It really shouldn't, let her be comfortable and enjoy it and much as you. If it doesn't happen on day1, it w…
/r/seduction27/07/24 11:39 PM
0

it's an FR that should had been an LR
/r/seduction27/07/24 11:17 PM
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If a girl txt me that, I wouldn't like it, I don't like cocky girls. If the same girl told me in person in a sweet suggestive voice the same thing, I'd ask her if she has any idea of the "bad" things I want to do to her. Sexual tension & sexual communication is an art better left for in-person face-to-face when most of the communication is non-verbal anyway. I suggest you avoid texting.
/r/seduction27/07/24 10:34 PM
2

Just ask for a recommendation: "what’s an appropriate way for an attractive guy to approach a beautiful woman while at work?” And then do exactly what she says, on her.
/r/seduction27/07/24 08:13 PM
1

It’s not a real dilemma. Whatever suits your liking, anything will work if you are a sorted out attractive guy. But how do you get there? Keep studying game material (inner & outer game) and go out putting it to practice. Having a friend/wing that is better than you with girls helps to expedite your progress. Since you are new to this, I recommend you open relatively indirect and quickly (within 1-10 minutes) let your agenda be known “I find you attractive/cute and I definitely want to take you …
/r/seduction27/07/24 07:26 PM
0

I have been fortunate with jobs, fully remote and high paying so can afford things l love. My attitude is always “whatever it takes” so I went prepared to have boots on the ground for however long it took, but it all happened quickly. Met in June, by September we took a trip to Bali Indonesia & Krabi Thailand and by then I was convinced she is the one; I had said “no” so many times, getting to “yes” was quick. I came back to the USA in October to apply for fiancé visa. I went back to Thailand fo…
/r/seduction27/07/24 05:54 PM
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Although she was university educated and worked as hostess at a 5-star hotel, her English was below average (she’s still shy about it), but it didn’t matter to me, her personality shined through and matched her stunning looks.
/r/seduction27/07/24 05:13 PM
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There is probably a lot of truth to that, although I'm an outlier. I always did my own thing after careful R&D :) I studied and gamed hard for 5-6 years to go from total AFC to dating attractive girls in DC, only to realize that selecting the "one" from this market is likely to end in tears (like some of my friends). At 42 I had an amnesia hot 28yo Thai-American gf, and wanted to find the same looks-wise minus the usual western baggage. I knew exactly what I wanted, and at 46 I went to the sourc…
/r/seduction27/07/24 01:37 PM
2

I watched the Mystery Method DVDs (17-18 years ago!) during the week, and on the weekend I went out to a bar with a bunch of guys from a local seduction group and got myself a date. Literally, my first interaction with a cute girl resulted in a number. I was thrilled! Of course I screwed it up on the date and got the LJBF lol. Still, she was my first interaction after I found the community, and I remember her fondly. God bless you Erica :)
/r/seduction27/07/24 12:48 AM
2

Definitely don't force yourself to do anything you don't absolutely love. Be a slave of your true passions. The cool thing with the human brain is that although it's a program that is constantly running until we die, we have the ability to change it on the fly. I did all the reprogramming on myself with the help from ebooks audio and video from the seduction community, written and produced by guys and girls that figured it out before me. It's all learnable stuff, it just takes a lot of practice,…
/r/seduction27/07/24 12:39 AM
1

There was a period I got some undesirable vibes too, mostly LJBFs. Eventually as you progress with your game it goes away never to be heard of again, because all the escalation and sexual tension makes it clear where the interaction is leading to. She either chooses to accept or reject it.
/r/seduction26/07/24 11:58 PM
1

During my learning years any prospect from weekend gaming would get my standard text on Tue, offering to take her out Wed or Thu (weekends were reserved for gaming new girls). That kinda prevents you from coming off too eager. Once you are starting to "get it" and you actually have options, you can do whatever.
/r/seduction26/07/24 11:38 PM
14

You escalated by holding hands and going for the kiss. She knows it's romantic and she is going along, you are doing great! The fact that you told her "Apologies, I might me moving too fast" is advanced game. You are smooth operator :) When she doesn't comply with your escalation, no problemo. Stay totally unaffected: "I understand, I'm moving too fast. I just can't help myself, you are just so adorable, but I understand". And don't make any fuss about it, as you didn't. Keep doing what you are …
/r/seduction26/07/24 11:00 PM
0

First, relax. It could be a wrong number, did you call each other and save your names when you exchanged phone#s? The way I handled hot prospects that didn't comply to a simple text was to occasionally totally randomly (maybe once a month) call them from the car when driving home from work and felt like a million $$$. I would purposely not have anything planned to say, and would either leave an over the top cheerful voice mail about what an amazing day it was and that I called to check on my bea…
/r/seduction26/07/24 08:50 PM
6

Oh no, definitely don't do that. You don't want to confront non-compliance early on. An attractive guy with lots of options does not care. I understand that you do care, but for now you just have to fake that you are cool with whatever.
/r/seduction26/07/24 08:26 PM
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Nope, it's fine. Just like you couldn't talk (studying), she didn't want to talk (not in good mood). Don't read into it. She will get back to you, eventually. Work on other leads for now.
/r/seduction26/07/24 08:19 PM
2

In the farmlands of central Thailand.
/r/seduction26/07/24 05:17 PM
2

It's old, you have to do some work to get a copy, but it's out there.
/r/seduction26/07/24 05:16 PM
4

I had good base before getting in the game, I was just clueless with women. Good guy, high paying IT job, nice big house, cars, traveled, MS degree educated, and the persistence to take everything to success. At 29 I was put to manage a project that failed twice, and ended winning awards with it. Yet I was not good with women. So I got into the game determined to do whatever it took to have a hot gf and ultimately a hot wife. I studied everything I could get my hands on and went out a lot. I tho…
/r/seduction26/07/24 05:14 PM
3

I read everything I could get my hands on, the ones that stand out from memory: David DeAngelo (ebooks, videos and in particular the one about "deep inner game", and interviews with dating gurus audios), Love Systems interview series audios, RSD BluePrint Decoded videos, Mystery Method videos. Start with the Venusian Arts Handbook.
/r/seduction26/07/24 04:14 PM
3

Age is irrelevant (you are young anyway). Take a critical honest view of yourself, have you evolved your attractiveness as a man over the last 5 years (communication, finances, travel, dating, clothing, grooming, health/working-out, etc) to higher levels? As you become a more attractive man and your confidence grows, women can smell it before you even open your mouth. I started late (36) and took me a solid 5-6 years until everything clicked.
/r/seduction26/07/24 03:55 PM
2

I hear you, but what are the alternatives? die alone? if you want a sexy hottie with you, gotta commit to learning how to climb the mountain, whatever it takes. It's definitely not comfortable and eventually this discomfort becomes your norm.
/r/seduction26/07/24 03:03 PM
7

I had all sorts of similar self esteem issues. It (very) slowly changed when I devoted myself to studding game (inner and outer) and going out 3-4 times per week meeting girls. For a few years I was in tactical mode, thinking I could "trick" girls to take their panties off - super frustrating times, but I got a few crumbs here and there so I continued. Meanwhile I was doing good at work/financially, bought nice cars, house, dressed good, traveled, and continued studying game and practicing. Mont…
/r/seduction26/07/24 01:37 PM
4

The Venusian Arts Handbook 2nd edition. I studied every chapter, paragraph and sentence over and over - must have read it hundreds of times when I was new & learning :) There are a lot of other good ones, but I consider this to be a masterpiece.
/r/seduction26/07/24 11:54 AM
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There is no substitute for studying game. The Venusian Arts Handbook (2nd edition, ebook) is a masterpiece, see if you can find it. While that's my fav and I recommend you start there, there are tons of other good material online. It's a lot easier once you understand what's going on.
/r/seduction26/07/24 11:47 AM
2

You got some good advise already. I'd add, don't try to read too much into chicks. We love them, but they are weak and fragile. You like her and it's a shame she walked away, but hey, the door is always open and it's OK if she decided to fly away. You can't restrict a pretty butterfly from flying where it wants to, if you did you'd damage her. It is what it is, and you are cool with it. Eventually you won't even think "wtf happened". Getting to the point where you have a lot of options takes car…
/r/seduction25/07/24 11:31 PM
21

After 10 years in the game I realized that certain western ideals and movements which I won't name here have screwed up a lot of the women who lost their femininity. Some look fantastic, but I didn't want to jump onto a certain train wreck. I wanted a gorgeous, soft, polite, happy, girly woman. 8 years and 3 kids later I am so glad I was/am well traveled and had options beyond this "market".
/r/seduction25/07/24 08:17 PM
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No. Women will always respond to an attractive man. Study game, make sure you are on a path of financial success, study GQ (or similar) magazines to get ideas on how to dress A+, groom well, smell good. Don't expect invitations from the women YOU want, it won't happen. If you want an attractive woman next to you that will turn heads everywhere you go, you have to be an attractive man that takes action and goes after what he wants. She won't come begging for you. Just as in business, you have to …
/r/seduction25/07/24 04:22 PM
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Because of the "invested in beauty routines" I'll assume you are a girl. Make sure you look stunning every time you step foot outside the house (even if going to the butcher) and time is of the essence, 25-27 is your peak. Better find a guy and get married in the next couple of years. Your value declines fast after 29.
/r/seduction25/07/24 03:11 PM
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Don't waste time trying to interpret girls. We sure love them, but they are weak and fragile. Focus your energy on studying game and going out to meet beautiful girls. Once you have options, all this resolves on its own... girls won't give you these beta stories when they know you have options, and trust me they can smell a guy that has options from a mile away.
/r/seduction25/07/24 02:51 PM
1

u/PeanutAnnual6119 is giving you some tough love ;) Ultimately I advise you remove the app, study game, and go out practice. For this girl, just exchange phone #s and tell he to hit you up when she's in town.
/r/seduction24/07/24 11:49 PM
8

Mystery's venutian arts handbook 2nd edition is still a masterpiece.
/r/seduction24/07/24 11:36 PM
1

I have had countless people say "nice car", and the instinctive reply is "thanks". Yet some do it in such a way that pleasant chitchat ensues. We all respond to "game" one way or another. I don't advocate direct from the opener, although it can work, what I'm saying is feel free to express your "agenda", early on, basically the truth that you are seduced by her beauty, and that you definitely want to take her out. Most guys can't do it early on, but it's a DHV in itself. When you are an attracti…
/r/seduction24/07/24 10:53 PM
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u/appolonysian advice is solid. I'd add: Become a more attractive man. Travel, become successful, dress well, groom well, smell good, look good, workout. As you become a "made" man, you will be confident and shrug if off, plus you will get less of it anyway. Then you will have more options with attractive ladies, and it snowballs from there.
/r/seduction24/07/24 07:01 PM
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You don't need anything cute and witty. When you get good with game, you can just answer, and then cut to the chase and tell her "you are so cute"... follow with a couple similar questions to her, and come back to how cute she is "my god, you are even cuter the more I talk to you, I definitely want to take you out". Get her # and take her out. You can bypass years of learning "game" by cutting to the chase and quickly expressing your desires. You will get many dates.
/r/seduction24/07/24 06:45 PM
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The person reacting, is not the person in control of the frame. The frame here is implying that "you are short". No need to react to such jokes, and don't let them affect you in any way, if anything when you are secure about yourself, you see these attempts of frame control for what they are, and just smile :) It's OK to answer when you want, but if a girl wants to poke fun at your height (even if you are totally secure and cool with it) I think it's like you poking fun at her weight, probably n…
/r/seduction24/07/24 06:34 PM
8

In short, your value should be > her value. Brain dump: you are a successful man you are an attractive man, well groomed, well dressed, well spoken, etc you have your life in order your life is interesting, you are well traveled, stable, etc you already have options with attractive women All women will be attracted to a high valued man. Of course 11s that are beautiful inside and out are in high demand, so a lot of it is luck of the draw and a numbers game. You have to take many shots to eventua…
/r/seduction24/07/24 06:12 PM
0

"sorry I was busy" = "sorry, you are a low priority" Stop texting and be more of an action guy. Did you escalate on the dates? You should had held hands, smelled her, kissed, caressed hair/legs/hands/breasts. If several dates go by and you don't escalate, you essentially DLV and attractive girls won't feel the spark with you, and then you get all this bs.
/r/seduction24/07/24 04:56 PM
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Ha! My dad was a natural. One time at the beach, I must had been between 15-18, I saw an amnesia hot girl and commented to my dad who insisted "go talk to her". Of course I didn't, so he approached her to prove a point. For an hour here was a middle aged man with a belly talking to Miss Hot (I'd guess she was around 18) no idea about what, but he had her laughing and eating out of the palm of his hand. I felt like an ant. When he came back he was like, "this is how it's done, just go and talk". …
/r/seduction23/07/24 10:12 PM
1

Not me, unless she was Asian and my perfect 10, even then I would immediately switch to video to find out if she is a soft girly girl personality just the way I like it. Ultimately, would you think twice about it if you had 10 attractive girls in your phone that were all down to go out upon a simple invite? When you have options, all the neediness melts away by default and you naturally do all the right things.
/r/seduction23/07/24 08:07 PM
1

I'd say "all cool, enjoy your visit, we can talk later". Continue to game other girls, you can come back to this one later. Since she's far away, once you reestablish chatting, I'd say "I'll video call you in a few mins", and video call her.
/r/seduction23/07/24 05:21 PM
1

To lose something you first must have it.
/r/seduction23/07/24 03:08 PM
6

The very best way (that I know of) is by being an attractive guy with lots of options. All the neediness and overtexting goes out the window... You are likely not there yet, it's totally OK to fake-it-til-you-make-it. Self restrict texting to the bare minimum for date logistics.
/r/seduction23/07/24 02:36 PM
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You are 23 and out of med school, YOU ARE THE MAN! Now you just have to apply yourself to game. Took me 10 years from when I started, 36 and totally clueless, to 46 and married to a 27yo woman of my dreams. It takes effort to study game and practice, but once you start getting results, it'll be all worth it. Enjoy the journey, especially this early dry period, you will look back to it fondly :)
/r/seduction23/07/24 02:15 PM
1

1) You are adequate right now but I can tell you until I'm blue in the face and it won't matter. You have to believe it yourself. Many wealthy guys can't get a proper girl, 100k is fine. 2) You have to really decide the woman you want looks and personality wise and go out take your fair share. Eventually you will find the one. Having said that, don't keep doing the same thing over and over and expect different results. Travel. Expand your horizons, there are many places in the country and the wo…
/r/seduction23/07/24 12:25 AM
2

He said lucrative... I was thinking he is a bond trader pulling a couple mil. 120k in NYC living with the parents... that's not gonna work
/r/seduction22/07/24 08:55 PM
0

It's all in your head. If you are an attractive guy, tell this story to girls, and see if they care.
/r/seduction22/07/24 08:49 PM
2

This ^^^. When they really really like you, they make it really really easy. NEVER forget this, it saves you from overthinking about it. Also, do not make yourself so available, it doesn't say the "right" things attraction-wise. Attractive guys have tons of options. I presume you are an attractive man without many options at the moment. Once things start clicking you will be busy, and it will be natural to not be too available or to not care if some chick cancelled. The best way to have options …
/r/seduction22/07/24 08:46 PM
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This. Attraction can be manufactured/faked to an extent (study attraction triggers, many good books out there, I like Mystery's venutian arts, 2nd edition), but there is no substitute for actually being an attractive man, and if you are not already, the transformation is a process that takes time (took me 5-6 years). You have to work on the three pillars that Mystery describes: Health, Wealth, Love. These contain a lot of stuff like how you look physically, if you are well groomed, well dressed,…
/r/seduction22/07/24 08:15 PM
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I have seen it with others and myself as well. Attraction is not a choice. If you notice it fades, that's useful feedback. I can attempt to interpret, but I don't know you, you'll have to take an honest look at yourself and self-assess. I'll give an example from personal experience, a long time ago I used to wing with a tall good looking guy that was pretty good (better than me at the time, I think), but had similar retention problems. He complained that often girls wouldn't even go on second da…
/r/seduction22/07/24 07:54 PM
2

If you get such objections often, that's your clue that you need more "comfort" to demonstrate that you are a real, normal, yet cool guy. At some point during game introduce DHVs that do that. Things that come to mind: integrate topic(s) that allow you to pull your phone and show photos of you when traveling, photos with family, photos with friends, with animals, perhaps a cool video. If you sense that she is super into you and just messing with you: "You are so damn sexy, of course I want to do…
/r/seduction21/07/24 01:20 PM
1

In the compliance ladder, it's obviously higher up than texting or calling. So I only did it if I was very interested, and she was compliant to texts and calls. You can just say in text "I'll video call you in 5-10 mins", and then video call her in 5-10 mins. Never had objections.
/r/seduction20/07/24 10:43 PM
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You have to study game. Find the "BluePrint Decoded" videos, the David DeAngelo ebooks, audios, and videos, Love Systems Interview Series (lots of audio). For me the "bible" that opened my eyes is Mystery's "The Venutian Arts Handbook" 2nd Edition. It's a masterpiece.
/r/seduction20/07/24 10:33 PM
1

Traveling is fantastic, it improves you as a person. Definitely keep traveling and staying in other countries for long periods if you can, it expands your horizons. There is a lot of good material out there to help you train until you "get it", google and torrent is your best friend :) Look for "The Blueprint Decoded", very long video, but very good. Same for David D stuff.
/r/seduction20/07/24 03:09 PM
1

Some want a local, some want the thrill of a foreigner.
/r/seduction20/07/24 02:43 PM
2

Decide what you want in a woman and stop wasting time waiting for them to come to you. If you want the best it takes work that nobody is going to do for you, much like in business. You have to become a fearless hunter. There is a lot of attractive girls that you wouldn't want to end up with, you have to get experience under your belt and see for yourself the mine field that's out there, avoid the traps, develop a radar that can hone on small clues. You are 30, you have plenty of time. Enjoy the …
/r/seduction20/07/24 01:25 AM
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The best advise I can give you is that you have studying to do. When I was learning, the David Deangelo material was good - I studied a lot more than DavidD stuff, but he is a good starting point. I spent thousands of hours reading and watching videos in my spare time - I was determined to decode women and get what I want. See if you can find his ebooks: sexual communication, deep inner game, double your dating, or the audio for: interviews with dating gurus. It's old stuff but still valid and g…
/r/seduction19/07/24 09:13 PM
2

You are probably hot commodity and don't even realize it. Install google translate on your phone. Go after what you fancy, many girls will be receptive.
/r/seduction19/07/24 06:01 PM
3

Imagine you have a directness volume knob. At the max it's the crude "you are so sexy, I want to fuck you" and at the min it's "what time is it?". You are probably towards the lower range right now, like a lot of other guys. Adjust it a bit higher. Go for the girls you really want and politely yet unapologetically let your intentions be known early on. That is "game". Ultimately your intentions is to take them out and have sex, right? Guess what? that's what they want too. So after some chitchat…
/r/seduction19/07/24 05:57 PM
1

Is your success with the ladies a relatively recent thing? In my case I was so clueless & girl deprived until my mid 30s that I massively overcompensated later on. By 40, once I started having success I too derived a lot pride & happiness from the excitement of taking out hot girls and finally living my fantasies. So to a degree, for a few years the most important thing to me was the girls I could get. But looking back I can't say it was my sole source of happiness, I have always been a happy-go…
/r/seduction19/07/24 04:08 PM
4

At 46 I didn't discriminate on age, only cuteness - I ended up marrying a stunning 27yo :) 8 years and 3 kids later we are as happy as the early days.
/r/seduction19/07/24 03:23 PM
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You are overthinking. One of the girls you take out will end up as your wife, so it's good that you take your dating seriously. Needy is to make a girl your sole source of happiness. At some point I was so dead-serious, I had a spreadsheet with columns being the attributes I wanted in a wife/mother/lover/teacher/friend/porn-star haha. By then my radar was very sensitive and would pick up on the tiniest of clues relatively early on. I filtered ruthlessly. I used it for a while until it became obv…
/r/seduction19/07/24 02:15 PM
1

Don't feel bad about the once a month part at all! Even in super-happy-land, the logistics are similar. I have an amazing young & gorgeous wife (20 yrs younger) with great personality, we love each other and our 3 little monkeys and we are very happy. We are both at home most of the time, so in theory we should have lots of play-time, but in reality by the time kids sleep, most of the time we are just tired :) if I press for it she won't say no, but I know dealing with 3 little ones all day is e…
/r/seduction19/07/24 01:36 PM
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“she doesn’t really get along with other girls and only guys” Stop it right there. Massive red flag. I have known a couple nut cases like that, and I confess I put up with them for a while because they came along just as I was starting having success, and I was "hungry" for sex with such attractive girls and having a trophy that stood out. But they were headaches I was glad to get rid of. Be glad.
/r/seduction19/07/24 03:52 AM
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Haha, don't beat yourself up man, you are going through training :) I too disappointed so many girls that initially liked me. You are learning how the game is played and mistakes happen. Shrug it off like a pro NBAer shrugs off a missed shot. He will still take many other shots expecting them to go in. You do realize there are many super attractive girls that would love to be with you, right? I can tell you this until I'm blue in the face but it doesn't matter until you truly believe it inside y…
/r/seduction18/07/24 03:54 PM
3

Yes, it's easy, if you are a desirable attractive man that understands game.
/r/seduction17/07/24 07:52 PM
2

Nobody cares if your English is not perfect, especially girls. It's all in your head, but I understand we all have things that bother us, so if it bothers you, look up for English language programs in your locality, they are usually sponsored by the county/state you live in and free. You can keep taking classes and improve.
/r/seduction17/07/24 07:22 PM
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Search seduction material for "sexual tension". Years ago I studied David DeAngelo's DyD and sexual communication materials, which are very good. See if you can still find them. Introducing sexual talk early is an art, you definitely want to do it early on, but you don't want to do it in a crude way. You want to keep it light. I'll give you examples: You are picking her up and as you get out of the car to open the door for her, she comes over and she looks stunning. That's a perfect time to plan…
/r/seduction17/07/24 05:01 PM
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Don't worry about age (younger or older) and just focus on what you want, presumably a woman you find irresistibly attractive. If she awakes your inner caveman, just don't worry about anything and go for it. If you get age difference objections, your mentality should be "huh? but you are so beautiful/sexy and I like you, what a shame", and try one more time with "it's ok, just put your number in my phone, I don't bite, it'll be ok, I'll just take you out" and if she still objects, let it go. But…
/r/seduction17/07/24 04:19 PM
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I don't know what your expectations are, mine were to meet a stunning girl and make a happy family :) It took me a while to just unapologetically go for it. Routines, openers, game strategies etc are training wheels. When you are swimming in a sea of cluelessness (like I was) studying "game" and faking it til you make it is totally necessary. What you describe is the process of "calibration", game is game when it doesn't feel like game (what a paradox), it's like driving a race car effortlessly …
/r/seduction17/07/24 03:37 PM
2

You are at the beginning of an amazing experience, enjoy it. Set your goals high, figure out exactly what (women) you want, and go after it ruthlessly.
/r/seduction17/07/24 12:39 PM
4

How old are you? I started at 36yo clueless about girls, not confident that I "deserve" a hot gf. But I had determination to figure things out. I had lots of rejection and self-wonder, but I never gave up, and kept studying about game, inner and outer, and trying to improve myself. Naturals already know what to do, but for the rest of us it takes a while to "get it". I had some success 8-9 months into it, but it was around 4-5 years before I started taking out hot young girls (I was 40 by then).…
/r/seduction16/07/24 09:34 PM
1

"I want to be respectful of her time and boundaries". Hold it right there, don't be concerned about girls' time and boundaries. If a girl gives you her number, you can contact her. If she has interest, she will respond fairly quickly to your first text, if she does not, forget about her - you should be busy with other attractive girls anyway. The best way to have options, is to actually have options. Work on meeting many girls, then you'll never worry if some girl is not feeling it for you. Rega…
/r/seduction15/07/24 06:00 PM
2

Don't come off like a pushy salesman, keep the fun, sexual tension, and touchy escalation, and sex is is not far away.
/r/seduction13/07/24 06:46 PM
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No need to over-analyze man, there is not much to learn actually. Just continue to improve yourself. Maybe your energy or vibe was not ideal, but then again you can do the exact same thing some other time and have it go well. It's like sales, you can do the perfect pitch 10 times, but some customers just won't buy, while others that you didn't count on will say yes. The most amazing job I got I almost didn't bother to go to the interview, it seemed so far fetched. The first really hot girl I got…
/r/seduction13/07/24 04:51 PM
1

Nah, remember, you are the one with the pants man. Don't second-guess yourself. At a moment you are feeling A+, perhaps after work on a beautiful day when driving your car, dial her number to check on your beautiful babe! If she picks up great, don't mention anything about the text you sent, just say you called to check on beautiful Miss <insert her name> (I love to make over the top statements like that :) and act as if nothing has happened. You can escalate later in person, or if she mentions …
/r/seduction12/07/24 10:00 PM
1

Know what you want, and go out take it.
/r/seduction12/07/24 09:25 PM
1

He is not attractive yet. He needs to work on himself, to be the most attractive man he can be. Travel, education, wealth, health (gym/sports), grooming, dress well, be well spoken. When I started I was a hopeless nerd that couldn't attract a girl if my life depended on it, 4 years later I was "dangerous". It can all be learned and developed on your own provided you are willing to put the effort, the internet has lots of resources. But self improvement takes time, one day at a time. The clock st…
/r/seduction12/07/24 08:26 PM
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When you are already attractive, things are easier. Girls are waiting to be asked out by an attractive guy, and be taken for a ride in his fun life. State your intentions. If you find a girl attractive, start escalation right when you meet her: "I thought you are beautiful, but the more I talk to you... you are stunning, I definitely want to take you out".
/r/seduction12/07/24 08:11 PM
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I was a late bloomer too, totally clueless until 36yo. At that point I obsessed myself with "game" and improving myself. Despite the initial years of failure after failure, I never gave up, and kept improving myself. Right around 40yo is when I finally started taking out attractive women. Finally at 42 I scored my 10, a 28yo stunning Thai-American. It didn't work out because she had some issue (bipolar, although I am not sure) but she cemented in me what I love looks-wise. By now I was very pick…
/r/seduction12/07/24 07:39 PM
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MM is an excellent outline of the stages of seduction from meeting to intimacy, especially when you are starting out. After having navigated the journey from cluelessness to a successful "made" man married to a model-looks 20 years younger girl, I'd advise you to not even bother with "routines", daygame or nightgame. Focus on your own health, wealth, travel, grooming, education, communication; in other words your overall attractiveness as a person. And know there are attractive girls out there t…
/r/seduction12/07/24 05:24 PM
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We have all been there :) It's nothing specific you did or didn't do. It's just that at the beginning you were in the "maybe" category, and later moved to the "no" category. Don't be upset with her or yourself. You have to break eggs to make omelette. Keep trying to make the omelette! When you are an attractive guy you can be quiet, or say silly things, and women will want you. Your attractiveness level is just not high (yet) for that girl. But, I GUARANTEE you there are women out there that fin…
/r/seduction12/07/24 04:20 PM
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