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oh god dealing with women and housing is impossible they are even pickier about that than they are with mate preferences and will refuse a house even if it is basic shit that can be fixed like the paint in one room.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:06 PM
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When was the last time a woman measured her vagina with a ruler? I am not even a woman and the thought of shoving a ruler in there makes me wince.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 07:13 AM
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Yep it isn't a linear increase it is just a massive exponential increase once you hit 8 and start going higher. The difference between a 4 and a 6 is basically a sampling error level of increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:18 AM
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Nah if she still has a pretty face and big boobs a shocking amount of guys would be willing to date the 300 lb chick, but they would just not be lookers themselves. I still remember one woman like this from a couple years ago who was like that and I would have gladly dated because she was also a nice lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:10 AM
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Unfortunately no but it does show how ridiculous things are and how insane women are in their demands.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:06 AM
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If that is the case it still would not explain the prevalence of lesbian bed death if it is two women doesn't that mean it should be more solved because they both want constant passion and excitement?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:05 AM
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Or maybe I’m projecting because I could not be with someone I’m not attracted to. I don’t think we should expect anyone to date anyone they’re not attracted to My personal experience when I dated below average girls was they treated me like crap because I was not Chad even though I treated them well so I think that is just projection/how women work not men. Do exceptions exist of ugly guys treating their equal badly because of it exist? Sure, but it isn't as common from what I have seen. Most be…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 12:31 AM
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"food pyramid means you should be eating pounds of bread a day". The only people who can eat the amount of carbs the food pyramid recommends and not become round are working really physical jobs like dock worker or construction or are some athletes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 12:29 AM
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Hard to want to eat more when meat keeps you full for hours, but carbs you are hungry 2 hours later leading to the Chinese food phenomenon due to all the rice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 12:28 AM
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https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/ That would mean a man has to be in the top 10% of income in America just to be equal to the dating level of a woman making zero money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 12:20 AM
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Lesbian bed death became a term for a reason so I don't think the problem is men it is just women get bored quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 12:15 AM
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Half of men are completely invisible to women and most of you would not even feel anything if they all mysteriously died overnight or never existed. Our basic existence is an affront to your senses you are like the kings who hate seeing the peasants and will ask shit like never look the king in the eyes because you think you are so much better than us. You don't even want reminders we exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 07:47 PM
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If you wait till your 30s to eat the food in your fridge it is kind of obvious the food is going to be spoiled. You have to eat it when it is fresh so it doesn't turn into this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 07:45 PM
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But he would settle for his female equivalent which shows that the problem is women in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 07:40 PM
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Even if it was more common say 1 in 100 having that on top of their other requirements shows how insane they all are. I will run the numbers again lets say 100,000 men in their city 30% in the right age range, top 20% of height, top 5% in income, 1 in 100 with a big enough dick that is 3 men good enough out of 100,000! and this is assuming those 3 guys are not married which chances are at least half of them are. Womens entitlement is INSANE! Even if you removed one or two of these it is still us…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 02:49 AM
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Dating as a 5/10 guy is basically like dating as a 2/10 girl. The pattern I have noticed is take your score looks wise as a guy and subtract 2-3 that will be the level of women who you can date. If you are higher income it tends to be 3 but lower income it tends to be 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 02:42 AM
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they settle for scraps the way ugly guys do No they won't if they can't get a Chad they either refuse to date or "date" some dude with money who they treat badly. That isn't dating that is just being a hooker with extra steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 02:40 AM
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Honestly, I don't know what's the solution to this and it makes me incredibly sad and pessimistic about what the future holds. Ignore women and only have male friends was what I have wound up doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 02:33 AM
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It is addictive and takes away the desire to chat up women. I mean for a lot of guys that would be a side bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 10:23 PM
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Oral sex wasn't commonplace in America until after WW2 when returning soldiers had experienced time with hookers in Europe and Asian.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 09:21 PM
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What? I said half the only difference is what class we were in at the time the mindset is the same either way and both were similarly childish and outlandish expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:56 PM
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The rare times women are willing to address it it just is further gaslighting. That didn't actually happen, well this is your fault somehow, etc. Classic DARVO tactics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARVO
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:55 PM
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Trailer park hot girls are fun, but you can not domesticate them no matter how hard you try. Even if you find them in that magical window before they choose either jesus or drugs it is still not worth trying to date them long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:52 PM
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I am sorry but when multiple women told me why can't I find a nice guy like you who treats me good and I had previously told them I would be willing to date them that is a bunch of nonsense because I am literally being used as the example! This isn't my self centeredness it is women being crazy bitches who think with their vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:49 PM
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Now it feels like a job application process or I am expected to be a dancing monkey entertaining them and if I fail they go find a new male friend or partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:44 PM
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Yes? Men marry across and down. Women marry across and up. Their is a reason the male boss marries his secretary but the opposite basically never happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:43 PM
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They know what men want, but don't care about them until they need a guy to raise their children or future children. It is weird they know but at the same time it somehow doesn't register that their partner has preferences or things they want. I think it is just a massive form of entitlement where they only think about themselves similar to someone who can only think in short term planning instead of long term planning.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:40 PM
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About half expected me to greatly increase their lifestyle but we were both poor at the time so it was more expecting a middle class lifestyle on a wal-mart salary. I noticed once I started making money womens expectations exploded even further where they expected the multiple vacations a year and fancy restaurant dinners thing. This expectation obviously doesn't work for me as an example my furniture is mostly 20+ years old and I just toss what I can into investments instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:33 PM
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Yet again not about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 09:57 AM
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It would have been a decent show if it was a spin off or something but trying to make it into Scrubs and calling it Scrubs made it worse than if it had just stood on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 05:09 AM
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any man who isn't genuinely being nice will probably always struggle because we can sniff that shit out like a shark smelling blood. That one made me laugh out loud women constantly date douchebags and then complain that the douchebag is mean to her. Surprise if he is mean to everyone else he is also going to be mean to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 02:41 AM
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From everything I have seen women with disabilities like being in a wheelchair have way less difficulties dating than men with similar disabilities do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 02:38 AM
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I didn't pick shit women are the selectors of relationships men just get who they get especially if they are an ugly guy. If 99% of women won't date you because of their hypergamy the last 1% is what you are stuck with whether you like it or not. I have since opted out because I would rather be alone than deal with that bad treatment. The problem is nothing but women they deserve every ounce of scorn and blame they get because they are the selectors not guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 01:46 AM
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I despise the genocidal selfishness of the west, the west produces the most morally dilapidated people. Womens absurd hypergamy is really nearing that level I had a woman here a couple weeks back openly state women would rather kill their husband if he is on their level looks wise instead of giving up that Chad dick. Women really are that evil and care only about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 11:39 PM
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Helping women feel better about themselves or helping them improve by encouraging them to come to the gym with you will always result in them monkey branching to someone else. Never support women it is a waste of time and effort that you will NEVER be rewarded for.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 10:21 PM
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Yeah providing for and being nice to an unattractive woman doesn't matter because even unattractive women can get flings with hot guys which means they think they can get actual relationships with hot guys. This means they treat you badly and are never going to be happy because they think you are not good enough and will eventually cheat on you with some hot guy that would never actually date them. Women will trade stability for vagina tingles constantly and then whine they made a mistake trying…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 10:18 PM
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Ffs. You don’t need sex. If it is something that a person really wants, that person should work towards making themselves more desirable. Almost like it isn't about sex it is about a relationship and all the long list of benefits relationships bring. If it was just about sex people would just get hookers. Making yourself more desirable for guys is a complete waste of time for the average guy because it is only going to add at most +2 to his score and with womens insane hypergamy that is not enou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 08:49 PM
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The fervent obsession that most men have with women is just mind boggling. Like a rich person not understanding why poor people are obsessed with money. When something you need such as oxygen is easy for you to get it isn't a big deal, but for other people who it is hard for such as asthmatics or people with COPD it is a big fucking deal. You are coming from a place of privilege and entitlement as well as a bit of sociopathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 07:58 PM
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Yes but the difference is men don't run around saying fat women have no problems with dating and in fact that is what guys want. Women keep stating they want nice guys, but then it winds up being AT BEST a minor factor if that. Guys on the other hand openly state things like no fat chicks. This is why guys are pissed off they feel like they have been lied to their whole lives by multiple women including women they were close to and because it makes the world seem even more unfair that nice good …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 07:38 PM
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This doesn't even have to be candy look at Europe having younger drinking ages than America which contributes to binge drinking in America and other issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 07:18 AM
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On the other hand if you have less kids you wind up with your eggs in fewer basket (an idiom sorry if it doesn't work) which means if one or two of those baskets/people fail you have less chances of success. Would you rather roll the dice more times with worse odds or fewer times with better odds? This can also have a negative effect on the fewer children as well because they experience much greater pressure from their parents as we have seen among Asian immigrants in America and some Asian fami…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 07:09 AM
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is it really responsible to have that many kids with no insurance or savings that would help them if you drop dead earlier than you thought you would? No, but because of the lack of a support structure for the elderly poor people are heavily incentivized to have multiple kids to increase the chances one of them being able to provide for them when they are older. Lots of countries run into the same issue not just Russia. I may disapprove of it, but sometimes people have less blame when so much of…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 05:18 AM
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Imagine what I dealt with to be like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 05:14 AM
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I wouldn't call it luck more of even the shitty options I was offered couldn't manage to do basic things like treat their partner right and not cheat because they were so entitled thinking they deserved a hot guy. I wanted a hot woman, but just because I wanted that doesn't mean I treated them badly but they sure as hell treated me badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:02 AM
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I tried dating and settling for below average and ugly women because I am realistic and all it got me was pain and misery so why should I have kept settling? At least the single hot woman I was with made up for being crazy by being hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:00 AM
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Debated getting a dog since they are great but dealing with the heart ache when they die due to their short life spans is awful so I avoid it. I also don't think it is fair to the dog with how many hours I work because I want my dog to be happy not cooped up in a small apartment alone for 9+ hours a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 02:58 AM
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The general way I look at it is he is being used as a wallet and support structure in multiple aspects such as emotionally as well as all the work he does to help her in exchange he sometimes gets the occasional sex where she starfishes or gives him a handjob on his birthday. His wife doesn't support him like he supports her and is frequently rude or bitchy to him and tends to wear the pants in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 02:55 AM
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Yeah whatever works for different people if it makes them happy then pursue that if it doesn't work for them it doesn't work for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 02:21 AM
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My husband is no Chad, yet I love him. You are an exception from what I have seen women are only capable of loving the top 20% guys (Chads). Some women tolerate another 30% because they provide utility/beta bucks but that isn't really love it is just the guy being used. You're the one sitting here calling women below average? I literally called myself ugly in the sentence before that I am just objectively rating people on looks. Also, not dating a man does not equal mistreatment. The mistreatmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 02:20 AM
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I don't see it to me one of the best joys in life is watching your enemies who have greatly hurt you be crushed and hearing their lamentations to paraphrase Conan.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 02:10 AM
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They barely exist and the ones that do exist ignored my ugly ass. The women who didn't ignore me in my 20s were almost always below average looking, treated me terrible/abused my kindness and wallet, crazy, or cheated on me. They were all angry I was the best they could get even if we were on a similar level because womens insane hypergamy it means if you are not Chad you deserve nothing but mistreatment and scorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 02:07 AM
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Because I liked spending time with her and thought we were compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 02:01 AM
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A young pretty woman that has a tolerable personality that is also loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 01:57 AM
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Why should we "overcome" that bitterness and reward these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 01:52 AM
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It reminds me of borderline personality disorder which has been called womans personality taken to the extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 12:14 AM
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Even before those things men had plenty of hobbies to keep themselves occupied and happy such as woodworking, fishing, fixing cars, reading books, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 12:00 AM
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I have the same observations but it still doesn't explain why they keep practically seeking out or tolerating that treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 11:04 PM
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Reminds me of becoming institutionalized in prison where you just get so used to it that being on the outside no longer works for you. If women wanted guys to partner up with them they should not have made them stay single for so long.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 11:02 PM
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Are they successful with women? I would consider it a success if he had a kid. All you know is that he had a kid with one. A low life like this seems like the kind to not feel guilty about being a charming guy when he meets a woman and manipulating her to accept less and less until he becomes his real self. He also seems like the type to stealth a woman to trap her because he knows women don't want to be with him, which, obviously, this woman didn't, because he is paying child support and not wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 10:56 PM
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The straw that broke the camels back for me with dating was a woman who I rapidly fell for because we came from similar white trash backgrounds but were both intelligent, I liked spending time with her, and our personalities meshed well. She repeatedly stated she loved how I treated her and liked that I was nice but then broke up with me even calling me a nice guy while doing so to date a guy who went on to break her arm. I just do not understand why guys who treat women badly never have trouble…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 10:49 PM
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I have interacted with a couple older women who were perfectly reasonable nice women who I was shocked had not been hitched yet or thought the person who divorced them was a moron, but they make up the real minority of women I have dealt with 30+. The majority have issues like entitlement, insanity like you experienced with her, a terrible personality dominating rude etc, or just being basic as all fuck while also being dumb as a box of rocks. Even if they didn't have such faded looks I would no…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 10:42 PM
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and the amount of scumbags that I saw dating the women around me was impossible to ignore. Just today I was at the gas station and the dude ahead of me in line buying smokes was bragging to his friend about avoiding child support and how he shouldn't have to have a protection order in between swearing every other word while his baggy pants are showing his ass crack (white dude before anyone says racism). How in the fuck are guys like this so successful with women? One woman who friend zoned me d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 10:33 PM
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Oh hey I remember those threads boy did they not paint a good picture of women who were the ones responding.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:49 PM
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I gotta ask what brought you to this month old thread? It seems kind of random.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:43 PM
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I find it hilarious how even guys like you 6'4, not fat, with a solid job, and a full head of hair etc have checked out of the dating market leading to where have all the good men? Issues for women. Just how badly did women fuck up to where this has become an issue for so many men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:41 PM
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Going from a 4 to a 9 isn't realistically possible. Dressing nice, acting more sociable, spending years in the gym will at most add +2 to someones score.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:39 PM
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A lot of my friends (guys and girls) first purchase after college was a new car. Jeep, Charger, Challenger. Then they would move to a new city with a nice apartment. One of the first lessons I learned about women from a Chad friend was dress as expensively as you can and drive a flashy car even if you have to live off rice a roni. Women would rather fuck that than date the dude who is saving and investing enough to retire early because they care so much about status and appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 08:52 PM
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That is the basic conclusion I came to if women are never going to love me because I am not a 20% I am much better off just not bothering dating them and getting a hooker if I am ever that desperate for sex. If you are not loved either way why not go with the hooker who is guaranteed to put out and usually going to be hotter than what you could normally get?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 08:49 PM
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If men raised their standards it would just lead to them being alone women will NOT lower theirs in response we know women would literally rather be alone than compromise. If one side has less desire towards something they can obviously risk more in the trade.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 08:42 PM
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so WTF is attracting all of these allegedly happily coupled women? From what I can tell most have already won the race but are trying to run harder so they can lap the losers and rub it in their face. Of course they will never admit this because it shows how egotistical and sore winners they are where they can't even when they have to crush people because they are such insecure awful people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 08:38 PM
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This is one of the problems with the UMC married women here you ask them what he is like and most respond with variants of well he is six feet tall, cute, rich, and sometimes they outright say he has a giant dick. But somehow that doesn't mean that is what they seek it it is just a massive coincidence that is what they got they didn't seek it out or anything. Can people just not admit they have a preference or what in the hell is going on?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 08:32 PM
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I am 6'4 and it is literally the only reason my ugly nerdy white trash ass didn't become a cel.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 08:14 PM
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You literally just have to read the replies to see that there women in this sub that say it. Reading the womens replies to this leaves me confused because most of the women I have dealt with seem to feel the opposite of them. One woman nearly had a temper tantrum because me and other guys thought and said that she was cute when what she really wanted to be was sexy and super desired etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 03:05 AM
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Reminds me of the story about the scorpion and the frog expecting something else out of someone against their nature is foolish.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 03:00 AM
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Throw in all the dates, vacations, gifts, money you wouldn’t have spend otherwise, it can add up Don't forget kids and paying for their absurd retirement and medical costs later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:56 AM
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FDS is incredibly traditionalist whenever it is something for mens roles or something that could benefit them. On they other hand they are very anti traditionalist when it comes to themselves. They want to have their cake and eat it too it is really pathetic and shows how most of them are just have narcissistic personality disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 05:55 PM
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So is it voluntary when we tax the rich? Nope we do it for the betterment of society whether they like it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 12:15 AM
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Why are the poors so whiny? They should just shut up and bootstrap themselves out of poverty or at least not bother me with my nonsense it makes my caviar taste bad. Why do women keep saying stuff like this about men but not understanding it is the same logic rich people use?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 08:35 PM
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The fact half the women posters seem to come from UMC or UC causes issues because that makes up the minority of men here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 08:31 PM
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I came to the conclusion the sex and no longer being lonely was not worth putting up with mistreatment I received over the years. Sure being lonely sucks, but it is better than that nonsense. Unfortunately as an ugly guy those are literally your only two choices due to womens insane hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 08:26 PM
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One of the funny things I've read is complaints by obese women who were fetishisized by guys. They didn't want a guy with a fetish for fat chicks, they wanted a guy who was just into them, its confusing in a way, its only a fetish because its unusual, if they are into you they are into you. I got mind blown by one fat woman I was dating who got legitimately upset almost to temper tantrum territory me and other guys she dated kept thinking she was cute when she wanted to be sexy. Just the sheer a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 07:58 AM
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So tell me why 65% of women have their children outside of marriage now? Is that figure true? Jesus no wonder their is such an absurd amount of single mothers trying to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 07:53 AM
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But the good looking guys can do the exact opposite of being a nice guy but girls will fall over themselves trying to fuck those guys so that is not the bare minimum! If it is the bare minimum they would not be having such an easy time. You can't say something is a bare minimum requirement and then ignore it for some guys either it is a requirement or it isn't! This isn't animal farm it is the same rules for everyone. For gods sake I have lost count of how many women I dealt with who dated abusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 04:32 AM
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Seeing people pay less in taxes for multiple times more space out in the suburbs than people in the city always made me wonder what was wrong with America.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 04:16 AM
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Nah I was friends enough with them that them talking about sex occasionally wasn't unheard of and when a guy is getting laid 4+ times a year he is going to mention it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 04:06 AM
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It wasn't until two years ago I gave up my VHS movies and even then it was only because my VCR died and it wasn't worth buying a new one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 03:58 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 03:19 AM
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Word narcissism gets thrown around a lot, but its actually appropriate here. Their top overlapping sub used to be raised by narcissists and that rubbed off at least some even if they didn't fully inherit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 06:15 PM
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I can't even imagine how much better my life would be if I was gay. I would not have had to deal with all the terrible women I dated and probably would not have tolerated the women I was friends with as long.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 08:03 AM
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I define them as Chads because they tended to get laid 4+ times a year when I knew them and most of them were in their 20s America.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 08:00 AM
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You are going to struggle to get intimate details like that out of most people and are mostly going to get second hand info (not many Chads are going to spend time posting here). That said about half the Chads I talked to enough to know that level of knowledge refused entirely or only did it if it was one of the rare women they actually cared about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 04:39 AM
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I have a suspicion crazy women being the only women who treat normal and below average looking guys like that is why guys stick with them for so long even if they are crazy. Normal women don't feel that way about their partner they only feel that way towards Chad so the only way normal guys can get the Chad treatment is dating a crazy woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 09:09 PM
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Undesired women exist. No they don't they had to make the subreddit private for awhile because they kept getting so many messages from men. Undesired women do not exist women who are ugly and want a hot guy and if they can't get that would rather remain single exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 03:05 AM
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And right now the bottom half of men feel invisible to women because of their insane hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 02:46 AM
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I've seen so many guys on here justify absolutely piss poor behaviour on the basis that "if they were attractive they'd get away with it". I was eating lunch with a guy I knew and he pinched the waitresses ass and got her number I would be in prison if I tried that shit. When I run a chad fishing experiment I can say whatever I want and the women are still gushing and down to fuck, but my normal profile? Ignored or it is like trying to pull teeth barely getting noncommittal responses after putti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 02:43 AM
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And only comes about because women are so hypergamous that a man who makes less money than her is as appealing as drinking Mexican water and getting diarrhea thus forcing men to have to make more money... while also competing with the women!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 12:20 AM
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like how can you be so privileged but constantly keep fucking up..and not only in dating Reminds me of a conversation I had back when I was in university a woman got a offer for a full ride scholarship for an engineering major, but turned it down to major in English lit. "I like math and engineering but idk it is hard and writing stuff is fun" was her reasoning. Meanwhile my dark souls difficulty self is having to work in a fucking warehouse overnight while still having to take out loans.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 12:17 AM
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Most of the nerds I have been friends with have been used by women like that and among the blue collar/lower class men it is around a quarter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 12:12 AM
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If it works for you it works for you. Just because I don't like the taste of strawberry icecream doesn't mean it is bad it just means it is not what I want or like. The problem can become though when that starts effecting other relationships such as if they tried to put strawberrry icecream into every other kind of ice cream.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 08:37 PM
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The only thing worse than having someone elses life be on tutorial mode when you are playing dark souls difficulty is watching them play and fuck up failing repeatedly at it. It is literally tutorial mode and they are doing the equivalent of accidently walking into walls because they are so bad at it!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 08:34 PM
0

If you wanted to be looked at as an adult and have the rights and responsibilities that come with it you should have not acted like children or people who fuck up whatever freedom they get like a drug addict shooting up within 30 minutes of getting out of prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 08:32 PM
1

The top guys dicks would become a level beyond spongey and bruised.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 08:31 PM
1

When huge swathes of men are having the exact same issues and experiences I am having I know the problem is not just my fault. It is like trying to claim it is poor peoples fault when a third of people can't afford basic things like food at that point it is not their fault it is the systems fault or whoever is the masters of the system in this case it would be women who are the gatekeepers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 08:29 PM
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This has resulted in female entitlement growing to insane levels. His little toe is slightly bigger than the next toe? LOW VALUE MALE! leave him sistah! Meanwhile men just want a women who is tolerable looking, not a single mom, and okay to deal with but can't even get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 08:26 PM
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So, I sympathize. I've met women as nuts. But let's be honest, that isn't mainstream. Nah it is mainstream women being hypergamous is the norm the only difference is the women here are willing to say that stuff out loud because of the anonymous nature of the internet. I'm addressing the common experience, and while your experience is valid for your life it's not common. The common experience is women are hypergamous and will NEVER give that up they would literally rather doom their world than gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 08:24 PM
1

Yes and very often.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 08:20 PM
1

their eggs are almost drying up. For once the stench of sulfur makes me happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 08:12 PM
2

The problem needs addressed. We MUST find a way to get the genders back at the negotiating table on equal terms. It will never happen I have had women here admit they would instead kill their equal if they were dating them because they love Chad dick that much. They are literally willing to kill an innocent man who is their equal just to prevent the loss of that Chad dick they are sharing with other women. WOMEN ARE INSANE why the fuck should we negotiate with a gender that belongs in a nut hous…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 08:07 PM
1

You forgot the next steps after that she asks for favors and abuses his kindness because she knows he wants her and because she loves the attention. Kind of abusing someone when you do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 07:51 PM
4

I would prefer below 10 but unfortunately with modern women I would be shocked if even 20% of women in their 30s are below that so I have had to suck it up. It just goes to show how absurdly easy it is for women to date if that few women are below 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 10:21 PM
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Meanwhile the Chad they keep trying to get has an N count of 30+.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 06:50 PM
1

Nothing sociopathic about letting shitty people live their lives far away from me. My body and time and energy do not belong to the general public. People make the same arguments about having to pay taxes why does someone else get to benefit from the sweat of my brow? I am the one working hard not them! Because it is better for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 05:04 PM
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40% and below sure and 45% is in the sometimes still attractive to me category.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:27 AM
1

But the only reason they don't want to date is because of their solipsism! If they were normal non crazy people they would be fine with dating their equal just like women used to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 06:07 AM
1

WHO!? Who is getting free shit? Where’s all these huge fat women profiting of the free shit “freely given” by simp orbiters? That one was a coworker I was friendly with who spend a third of her day on her phone talking to the orbiters and then would brag to other women about all the stuff she got from them such as being taken out to meals or toys for her dog. You have a whole story in your head. Where did it come from? That one was a long term friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 06:06 AM
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And “orbiters” is a nice way to describe harassing dudes that don’t take no for an answer, follow chicks home and attempt to convince her to still let him it. When she gets free shit out of them it is not like you are describing. 200lb women don’t get adored lol wtf. They get fucked (maybe) and then hidden away out of embarrassment. Considering that woman has never gone 4 months between relationships usually with tall thin above average looking guys I think you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 05:37 AM
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It varies I have dealt with women around 240 that I was attracted to so I don't like just saying X weight it doesn't work that way and I have also seen women who were 160 that I thought were not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 05:36 AM
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Because it isn't about extra it is about fairness and not hurting people. The basic idea of laws and rules under the social contract morality system is if society is unfair and unjust why should I follow the rules society makes? If other people don't follow the rules why should the rules only apply to me? My illegal response towards them is morally justified such as breaking the laws of segregation or even sometimes physical violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 05:32 AM
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Chances are you have an idealised version of what reality is faced by women. I am sorry but when even the 300 pound women I know have beta orbitters and the 200 pound women I know complain about how often they get hit on it is a damn buffet for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 05:25 AM
2

So let me get this straight you think it is wrong when men lie to get sex, but when women lie to get what they want it is okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 05:24 AM
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And I don't want to have to pay taxes, but for the betterment of society I still have to pay them. When you are a part of society you give up a lot of your freedoms of choice. I don't get to choose to speed around town at 120 miles per hour why? Because it would likely hurt someone else not just myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 05:22 AM
2

Like lying which is what you are angry about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 03:54 AM
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So if I am acting in my self-interest it is okay? Great I can start stealing murdering and raping people because it is in my best interest therefore morally okay right? You pink pill types keep trying to excuse your solipsistic moral system but get angry when anyone else does the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 03:54 AM
2

Not the point the point is the deception. Women are waaaaaaaaaay guiltier of deception than men are when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 03:50 AM
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Sure, partners might be easy for women to find in a sense, but being constantly flirted with can be aggravating (basing this off relatives and female friends I've had in the past) I've had to travel with my sister a couple times on the bus because she was tired of men hitting on her. Not only that, you have to deal with creeps and potentially dangerous people (Most men aren't dangerous, but they do exist) Nor do I think the top 20% of men are the only ones finding partners is true; I've seen ugl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 03:49 AM
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you might, but most women don't when it is a hot or rich guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 03:46 AM
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How do you have sex with a woman you have only seen on myspace? You show up to the date and she looks way uglier then you decide ehh I guess I will give it a shot. She ignores you throughout the date, spends most of it on her phone, and then when the bill comes expect you to pay. Around a quarter of women admitted doing this even though the survey painted it as obviously immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 03:46 AM
1

So you don't consider men who are your equal to be equal and thus it is okay? Not really sure what sort of angle you are working where this line of thought is okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 03:44 AM
1

In this scenario it would be dating men on their level instead of being so absurdly hypergamous out of basic fairness and not only caring about themselves or not being narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 03:43 AM
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Not a good man, dude. If you fucked him you obviously thought he was a good dude. Why would I care about some shitty man who I have no relationship with? Basic empathy and not being a sociopathic nutjob?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 03:42 AM
1

I have been on the opposite end of this as a man and it sucks. Being ugly meant the majority of women were not willing to date me and the few who were just took advantage of me so now I no longer date and just sit back enjoying the lamenting the cries of where are all the good men etc. Not blaming you just trying to find common ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 03:40 AM
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If a woman lied about being fat, and invented some situation where you met in the dark and fucked and you thought she was thin, yes, that would be rape by deception. That happens all the time Spanx for example. What about things like push up bras? Makeup? Heels to make your legs look better? Oh god I almost forgot what about all the myspace angles fat women do!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 03:38 AM
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Incentivizing men being attractive? Incentivizing men being direct and crude if Chad is rewarded for it then guess what other guys are going to do it because they know you either see him on that level or it is a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 03:37 AM
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Not stacey just some random fat chick? Then it wasn't sex. Can you imagine men saying stuff like this? Only women are this level of crazy stating things like it was just anal therefore I am still a virgin in gods eyes!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 09:56 PM
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Yeah because I am not an asshole that is basic politeness just because someone is ugly doesn't mean I am rude to them or ignore them. If I am not interested I am just going to say no thank you instead of leading them on. That isn't even the point though the point is you are incentivizing this behavior by acting this way and thus you are to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 09:55 PM
2

Why are the crazy hot ones so good at sex? I would have married that woman if she was not so god damn crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 09:45 PM
10

Good ole pink pill craziness anyone but Chad? Rape!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 09:41 PM
2

If woman don't want you, either improve yourself because you think it's worth it, or don't and find happiness elsewhere. If woman would rather be alone or poly then date undesirable men she has that right If women don't want 80% of guys and at most will settle for another 30% while treating them badly the problem is women not men. When rich assholes have so much money and power it destroys society we tax them and go after them but women refuse to pay their metaphorical tax. Women do not have the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 09:39 PM
1

For example was the social contract not being broken with segregation which allowed people to break the law and be morally okay with it? Their is way more than what you described to the social contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 09:35 PM
1

Their is a lot more to the social contract than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 09:33 PM
1

Yeah the good men that are instead just using them as a cumsock then leaving which leaves the women upset? Sorry you don't have the right to another person. Sorry (not sorry) that fills so many women with impotent rage posting on FDS. You are just upset you can't get more than what your worth is and will deny your equal because you only care about yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 09:32 PM
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Having a partner is a need that is necessary for many things and you receive a lot of societal judgment as a man for not having one.. Animals will literally choose to die instead of give up the warmth of a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 09:31 PM
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Because basic fairness? Even animals get upset when they get screwed and someone else gets something good. Why should men follow the social contract if women wipe their ass with theirs?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:53 PM
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Why does the rich having billions while you are poor make the world a bad place?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:52 PM
1

Imagine that. lol shaming men you don't know into being killed or traumatized for life in some of the most horrific wars imaginable I am not sure what was dumber that or treating Vietnam veterans badly when they came back. Women just have zero sympathy for men to the point they don't care if we die unless we are in that top 20% they want. Can you imagine if men treated even woman that was not model quality like they were only worth of death?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:36 PM
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You know how it is...disagreement is okay so long as it’s an agreed-upon disagreement. The powers that be online as well as in real life only allow discussions within the overton window they control.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:34 PM
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I see your point, but thing is, you can always get more sexual later, and match her energy. It doesn't hurt to start off with non-sexual topics, work, hobbies, vacations, restaurants and food, sports, etc. Doing that just gets you ignored or tossed into the nice guy category meanwhile she is texting her address to some shirtless 6 pack douchebag who asked her EY BBY U WANT SUM FUK? If you don't believe me run your own chad fishing experiment I did that and matched with one woman where on my norm…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:31 PM
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When women stop being so absurdly hypergamous proving it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:19 PM
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I tend to agree my basic take is laws are made up things we as a society decide on so saying something is legal or illegal or should be illegal or legal is iffy and secondly women when given more freedom act like children. If you give someone parole and their first action is to commit more crime then why should they keep being free?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:16 PM
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Men build society and women break it because they can't handle the freedom due to being overgrown children.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 07:52 PM
2

All-in-all I think everything is fair. Hypergamy has always and will always destabilize societies but if we are a society stands by what we believe, a woman’s freedom to do what she pleases, even at the expense of society, so long as it isn’t grossly unlawful, is her’s and it’s protected by the constitution. If someones freedom and choices fuck up society we make it illegal for example selling poison to make a profit, speeding, etc. We know from multiple angles womens hypergamy causes problems n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 07:51 PM
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You would rather be soft poly and share a Chad dick than date someone on your level I know who the crazy person is here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 07:45 PM
1

but you'd likely have a wife who earns as much or even more than you, but you stick her with everything else? In that scenario it would make way more sense to hire a maid service to come once a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 07:36 PM
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Please you women would literally rather kill these men than give up that Chad dick I had a woman here a couple weeks ago openly admit that. Why do you think women were the ones giving out white feathers?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 07:35 PM
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When simps do what women are already doing.... price themselves out of the dating market. Women don't care about those dudes they only care about the top 20% of dudes. The bottom 80% can do whatever they want and most women will not even notice and the top 20% have zero incentive to change they are already getting what they want. The only people who can change in this scenario are women because they are the selectors and gatekeepers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 07:32 PM
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The basic idea of a partnership is being able to split the work up and sometimes it lets you have a partner who is okay with one kind of work you don't like. For example I hate vacuuming but I am okay with doing the laundry or taking the garbage out or other things so it would be great if my spouse did that and I concentrated on those other things. From the sounds of of though you are just someone who is a perpetually mad man hater so I guess you are better off being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 07:28 PM
2

Remind me who fixes stuff around the house? Who does the heavy lifting? Who deals with the gross stuff or killing spiders? Saying only one side does stuff is nonsense both sides have to do stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 07:16 PM
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Says the gender that works less hours outside of the home. Sure housework sucks, but if you are at the job instead trying to support your family what difference does it make?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 05:56 AM
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I had that happen with one of them! It is something straight out of the abusers handbook and it makes you feel like you are being gaslight. Their top overlapping sub was raised by narcissists and it is obvious the personality disorder rubbed off on them if they don't obviously have it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 09:45 PM
1

But somehow it will be the mens fault. If you don't want the monster killing people stop making them in your damn lab you crazy bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 09:38 PM
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The blue pill and random feminist women are usually fine, but the FDS/Pink pill types are completely delusional and talking with them is impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 09:37 PM
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Tell them they get no pain killers during child birth and have to keep popping out kids until they die or can no longer do so those are all natural things and see if they still like the WELL ITS NATURAL argument. It is such a dumb fucking argument from so many angles that I do not understand why women keep repeating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 09:32 PM
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This generation or two of women being such massive man haters makes me wonder if we will have a new generation of serial killers 10-20 years from now because of their crazy mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 09:31 PM
2

Not wanting to have to work an extra 10-15 hours because HR is filled with SJWs is not lazy. If you had to work extra hours for no extra pay or recognition for nonsense reasons would you be okay with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 09:28 PM
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What does that have to do with anything that we are talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 09:27 PM
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Women, African Americans, and Latinos. I have seen HR literally leave a position open instead of filling it if they can't get an affirmative action hire meanwhile us guys are having to work an extra 10-15 hours a week to cover that still open position.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 09:22 PM
2

Being able to be invisible to women as an ugly guy has advantages like one overheard conversation that you were not supposed to hear that is worth more than a hundred lies to your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 09:21 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 09:19 PM
10

Oh right forgot sex is just something women exchange for the guys wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 09:19 PM
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Because how else would women get their hands on mens wallets and enjoy all the attention and good things men give them. At least in the old days nutters like you see on FDS wound up as lesbians and dated each other, but not modern women they realized another women is not going to be their wallet and support them like a man would. Can't have two 100% selfish people in a relationship it doesn't work which is why the stats in lesbian relationships are so bad such as the domestic violence rate, lesb…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 09:16 PM
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If the problem is caused by women why should men be the one who have to suffer?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 09:10 PM
3

No Indians and Asians are somehow not considered minorities in STEM which makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 09:09 PM
3

Women especially people like FDS women are far better recruiters than us men ever could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 09:05 PM
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3 are gone due to nepotism, 5 go to affirmative action hires, and the last two positions are competed for by 45 men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 09:04 PM
1

A lot of my friends in these groups are all men who are as dateless as I am. At the nerd stores I hung out at as a teenager over the period of 4 years I can count the number of women who came in that were not mothers of the players on one hand. The owners wife, one dudes girlfriend, and a young girl player who played pokemon with her brother. Back when I was in university for STEM I would have been surprised if anything less than 3/4th of my classmates graduated as virgins. Women feel about nerd…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 08:57 PM
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They managed to turn it into a god damn job not something fun and enjoyable to do with your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 08:48 PM
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If what the feminists who keep trying to defend it believed in (equality) and that gender roles are stupid were what feminism actually was I would not have a problem with it. It is like Christianity it had some good ideas, morals, etc, but people destroyed any and all goodness it could have had with their shittyness including the very Christians themselves not just the leaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 08:44 PM
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Women are a bell curve and it takes a lot to wind up in the 1 category. I would say less than 3% of women are in that category. Two and 1 combined is more like 10% though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 07:22 PM
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Do it now rather than later years of being hunched over in front of a computer has already destroyed my back and I am not even 40 yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 07:56 AM
0

Or at the very least not treating ugly guys like they deserve to have a torch shoved in their already ugly face.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 06:48 AM
1

Aren't those top states also among the poorest?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 06:44 AM
2

Pro dead people who deserve it. Justice is carried out and victims feel better. Prevents crime because no one wants to die. Con common miscarriages of justice (frequently because of racism) and the governments complete incompetence means innocent people die. I was for the death penalty, but after reading more and more about it I no longer trust the government enough to be morally okay with saying they can do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:49 PM
2

The top female porn equivalent to hit the mainstream was dating an abusive rich guy then calling it bdsm. I think I understand women well enough to know your claim that only guys like that stuff is nonsense. People are perverts of both genders just because you are not doesn't change things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:45 PM
1

Getting in better shape (warehouse work for two years) just made gay men more interested in me it made zero difference with women. Getting less fat or stronger doesn't make a difference if you are short or in my case have an ugly face because that is all women will see. Unless you are already a 6 looks wise hitting the gym does nothing because it at most is going to add +2 and men below a 7 or 8 are completely invisible to women whether they are a 3 or a 5. Who wants to spend years of hard work …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:41 PM
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Exactly women who are 5-6 are trying to date Chad, women who are 3-4 are chasing Chad but willing to settle for a 7 or a rich 6, and women who are 1-2 refuse to date entirely if they can't date a 7 minimum. This leaves a whole lot of leftover men especially in the 1-4 category.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:32 PM
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Random compliment you have really good English skills if not for you mentioning it I would have just pegged you for a random European poster based on the writing style who is basically a native speaker of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:29 PM
2

Not wanting to deal with the pain of the loss is the biggest reason I no longer have pets like a dog. Why do they have to live such short lives? It is fucking awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:27 PM
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Women who consume porn love three categories gangbang, hardcore, and bdsm. Don't throw rocks in glass houses.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:25 PM
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Yes because I am not an evil human being who will lead someone on just to get what I want. I am not someone who abuses people like that, but apparently women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:22 PM
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No got any other easy questions? Guy making 60k a year as an electrician will not be considered by a social worker making 35k a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:21 PM
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Like I said, your opinion of feminism is shaped from a radical minority who shouts the loudest. If those are the people in charge and the foot soldiers both of which are effecting and hurting men then feminism is a hate movement. This is just yet another no true scotsman fallacy that GirlWritesWhat showed how easy to utterly destroy it is. https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/68v91b/woman_who_lied_about_being_sexually_assaulted/dh23pwo/?context=8 Your silent majority are still fucking support…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:18 PM
1

So the whole world is shitty and that's why in every country on the planet men still rape/murder/torture women? Yes. It's more dangerous to be a man in places like Japan where a bunch of men kidnapped, raped, and tortured a random schoolgirl to death over the course of months? Oh right the country where men are societally expected to work so hard they literally collapse from it dying and they have a special term for it? Karoshi. Meanwhile the women get to be able to avoid that and just be happy …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 08:59 PM
1

The way I look at it is both genders have assholes, but how they act when being an asshole is different. Women in this scenario use their gender power to shame others whereas a man will just be more direct and tell them to fuck themselves or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 08:55 PM
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I don't understand why people do that why do we need multiple threads on the same topic posted in short succession? Unless your post is really good (it rarely is) just keep it all in one thread are people just this desperate for attention or what is going on?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 06:16 AM
1

apparently abusing someones unrequited love is perfectly morally okay according to the women here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 06:14 AM
3

Amom Amarth immediately comes to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 05:23 AM
1

Anytime I go to the doctor it feels like their are three people in the room me, the doctor, and the insurance company and I have good insurance now unlike when I was younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 02:53 AM
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So because someone can bang third world women it means guys are not going to struggle with first world women? That is like saying because a teacher can molest his students he can find all the adult women he wants no their is an obvious power imbalance and he is using that to get laid it would not work with normal adult women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 02:48 AM
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It's not like men walk up to women and punch them but since they're over 6 feet those women are like "well whatever lets date anyway!" When the woman loses a tooth, gets a broken nose, or has her arm broken within the first month and they still stick with the men yeah it is exactly like you just described. Face it women just have shitty taste in men and will tolerate bad treatment including abuse if the guy is hot or rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 02:45 AM
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If that's true, explain the entire history of sexism and the patriarchy to me. That is easy gender roles apply to both genders and they suck, patriarchy theory is a nonsense explanation because they stole ideas wholesale from communist ideas then tried to apply it to gender stuff which is inaccurate and does not work. The reason we had gender roles like we did back then was life was so fucking hard we had to create rules and roles for people such as for example having a division of labor where m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 02:43 AM
2

Hmm might have been someone else sometimes hard to keep track of names. Apologies
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 02:37 AM
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No offense but I know you are trying to be nice and show women are not evil and hell you might actually be a genuinely good person! but between hearing women say stuff like that to each other in private, hearing them shout it from the rooftops on the internet, and my own experiences with women I was friends with or dated I have a hard time being convinced women are not evil and actually care about men even men who are their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 01:10 AM
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One is a victim targeted when they are desperate and the other is someone repeatedly making the same mistake over and over again despite being warned. One is a person trying to score and the other is a goalkeeper who keeps letting shitty men score. I know who deserves sympathy and who doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 01:07 AM
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I would have been a lot better off hitting the gym from a young age and getting surgery and only caring about myself. I could have used the money I blew on helping women I was friends with or dated on surgery and then they would have been the ones following me around like a dog no matter how badly I treated them. The system is broken because of women and it disgusts me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 01:04 AM
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Despite tons of evidence showing they are wow they sure are dumb. The are the dumbest of dumb dumbs! Everyone but me is just whiny and dumb! Only my issues matter me me me me me me me me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 01:00 AM
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No men cater to womens interests all the time not to get off topic but look at what happens when women join something such as a group activity and the men shift to meet her preferences. Men have a stronger out group preference for women than they do for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 12:58 AM
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Not to make this personal but I have heard you make some pretty damn nasty comments towards men here that made me think you were on that level. Are you not a normal women or what is going on?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 12:54 AM
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You are moving the goal posts. First it was well they are men thus they are going to represent men when I point out that is incredibly unlikely from multiple angles you try and move the goal posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 12:49 AM
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You also think men pumping and dumping women is perfectly moral but gold digging is wrong? Women get what they deserve and bring it on themselves. If they would stop being so absurdly hypergamous and picky guess what they would not get pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 12:47 AM
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Don't think about baseball! You immediately thought of baseball when you read the word didn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 12:46 AM
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You personally heard a woman saying this? I have heard women make comments like that when talking to their girl friends yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 12:45 AM
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Them being male makes no difference men have no in group preference and our politicians are mostly just a bunch of rich assholes bought by other rich assholes. These rich assholes also include feminists who were able to do things like influence the FBI so that men could not be raped, influence Obama to heavily change how his jobs program worked (most job losses were men like 80% at the time but feminists were cunts and said it had to be pink collar instead), implemented the Duluth model which is…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 12:44 AM
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Mods deleted that comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 12:41 AM
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Sorry but when someone states all remaining men are losers or rapists etc I kind of take it offensively so I respond in kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 11:00 PM
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Wikipedia has a pretty good writeup on the concept of in group bias. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-group_favoritism
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 10:59 PM
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Because it was asked about?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 10:57 PM
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Everyone who is on the opposite side as me is just dumb! Wow yeah you sure must be a genius yourself with that logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 10:34 PM
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they have most major institutions... Is this a joke? Feminists control the government not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 10:31 PM
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Feminism was heavily from the upper class who didn't need to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 10:30 PM
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Why don't guys talk about their feelings more? Oh my god can you believe he cried in front of me? Why in the hell am I with this loser?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 10:29 PM
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The difference is women can get sex from hot men and easily get relationships with their looksmatch. But can't get a relationship with the hot guys who are not their looksmatch so they will whine and get pumped and dumped instead. The average man does not typically get sex or relationships from hot women and will still have to try and generally outearn their looksmatch for relationships. Yep make a minimum of 40% more than your partner and in exchange you get to spend time with someone who doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 10:21 PM
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Yeah feminists so no big loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 10:17 PM
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Sorry but when I dealt with this multiple times including a woman who repeatedly said she loved how nice of a guy I was breaking up with me to date a better looking guy who broke her arm that is not fantasy that is reality. Oh what about the one who friend zoned me and strung me along for two years while she dated a series of hot douchebags who treated her badly eventually costing her a tooth? She eventually stopped talking to me entirely because she found a rich guy so she no longer needed me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 10:04 PM
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So did my experiences with feminists just not happen or are you somehow blaming me for them? It feels like those are your two options based on what you are writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 10:01 PM
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How is bitching about women in the workplace a men's rights issue? Wow yeah you really didn't read the memo so not going to bother responding to the rest of your insanity. Oh and feminism is a mens right issue because those are the evil cunts keeping us down with every ounce of power they have for fucks sake they protest domestic violence shelters and fight against dual custody laws such as the national organization for women in Florida.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 10:00 PM
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If you were speaking about issues that matter to you in a vulnerable way and having discussions, not debates, I would be worried if that lost you friends. Like talking about my issues with poverty as a lower class male? Worries about trying to afford college? How much having to work while in college sucked? Tons of other things like that? Issues with depression where feminists told me to kill myself? Those experiences and conversations were the biggest reasons I stopped being a feminist and even…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 08:50 PM
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Negotiate down no I explained what happened directly to me when I didn't even have a job yet. Look at the Damore memo if you want to see what happens when you dare question feminist doctrine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 08:48 PM
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A recent example came to mind the Damore memo is a good example it wasn't offensive in the slightest but was still enough to have him fired because his SJW coworkers threatened to quit if he was not. That entire fiasco was a flaming garbage pile it was posted in the free discussion area where they had crazies talking about being an otherkin, but daring to question feminist doctrine? Thats a firing!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 08:47 PM
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Afraid your many cats will get drunk from all the wine glasses you leave out and hurt themselves? I normally restrain myself from making fun of people but you deserved it for that comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 08:09 PM
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I remember reading about examples like that but it doesn't make the news so I doubt I could find much on google. I know I personally lost my friends circle when I stood up to feminists and later became unpopular when I would debate the feminists on campus in private and that was back when I was younger much less if I tried it now as an employed adult. I mean after all these are the kinds of evil people who protest male domestic violence shelters and send death threats so legitimate a researcher …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 08:01 PM
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Yeah instead of firehoses and dogs evil cunt feminists just make us lose our jobs so the force of homelessness and starvation instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 07:30 PM
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Midwestern food is underrated taste wise and super easy to make, but eating it often leads to you becoming a balloon.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 07:24 PM
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Others are tiny little tanks whose thighs should be registered as weapons of mass destruction I have known two women with thighs like that both short overweight women who were also physically active. One could squat around 200 pounds which shocked me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 07:22 PM
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Also, who decided that raw onions go on every salad, sandwich, wrap, burger, etc. in existence? They’re disgusting, and you can’t convince me that enough people like them enough to add them to every damn lunch dish They sometimes make sense, but most places use way too much because they are cheaper than the other ingredients which is why most chain taco places use too much fucking lettuce in their tacos.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 07:18 PM
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One thing I will say is that women collectively stand up for their gender more than men, when it comes to dating. Not limited to dating women have something absurd like a 5 times stronger in group preference for women than men have for other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 07:14 PM
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50% of men are at best completely invisible to women, 30% can make themselves visible by being useful especially as women get older, 20% are the only ones women see which leads to a lot of apex fallacy nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 07:13 PM
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Or because she has kids already.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 07:12 PM
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I agree it is highly cultural and highly personal what I would consider a woman who is a loser and what society considers a loser woman are going to vary. In addition it is going to depend on the location, culture, etc so pinning down specific things is hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 07:10 PM
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Sounds like that one hit a nerve. Did you have a bit too much box wine and are now angry because of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 07:08 PM
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Men have little to no in group bias towards other men. This combined with it mostly being men on the bottom who need help and wind up in these groups such as guys who suffered from domestic violence or a horrible divorce means you don't have anyone from the upper part of society advocating for us. The way mens gender roles work their wealth and power heavily insulates those at the apex from the issues men experience whereas with feminists upper level ones were still stuck with the same shitty ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 07:06 PM
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Me [24F] with my boyfriend [25M] of 2 years. The most frustrating thing is he still touches me in a flirty-gropey manner (touching my boobs and massaging my vag) Those two lines kind of say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 06:59 PM
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That isn't intimidation or insecurity you just don't want the hassle and bullshit. If you had the choice between having to walk everywhere on your hands or just using your normal feet no normal person would choose the hands option. Why are you making things so fucking difficult for your partner by being such a bitch?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 04:21 AM
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I want to know how/where women keep finding these porn addicted guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 03:26 AM
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Some men lash out every day. Sometimes I wonder if the rates of personality disorders are not higher than what current estimates based on how many people have issues like this. You were just saying it affects you that there are social expectations that crying/reading is bad. If that's your opinion now as an adult, great. But we gotta let other people experience this too. As I got older I cared less and less about what people and society thought of me. Additionally I don't like how I am treated b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 01:19 AM
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Sometimes, we get overwhelmed with emotion because we had a bad day or are hangry, but i consider it an 80/20 thing. If i can manage my emotions and be a healthy adult 80% of the time, I can feel okay about the 20% of the time human nature takes over. I just have to do my best, perfection is not the expectation. I agree personally I think with relationships you have to forgive your partner when they lash out sometimes or whatever because it is never going to be perfect and relationships are abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 01:07 AM
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I have major mental health issues because my family did not expect or want a quiet, sensitive girl who loved to read. They wanted a bubbly athlete. My immediate family didn't care because they were the same way it was/is just the rest of the world that has a problem with it. Emotions are not commonly accepted by almost anyone even though we literally know that is how healthy people act (they accept their emotions, feel them, and allow them to pass). The way I look at emotions is they are normal …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 12:50 AM
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I dont' think men are genetically "dumb" i think they are raised in a culture that teaches them sex with a variety of women is the most valuable thing on the planet and everything else is a distant second. I think it is more of the two things you described education/being a reader and emotional maturity have gotten me insulted by society or called a weirdo as a man. Most guys don't want that social judgement and guys like me tend to be deeply unpopular with women so why would guys cultivate thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 12:35 AM
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My dog - who is used to between 3.5 to 5 mile a day walks - may actually murder me Dealing with my dog when it was too cold or rainy to take him for a walk sucked. He would always misbehave on those days and I could not explain to him sorry pooch the ground is so cold that by the end of the first block you will be hobbling and also mad at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 10:34 PM
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When the economy crashed in 2007-2008, men were around 80% of the job losses, meaning it was sometimes called the "mancession." Feminists response to this was to influence Obamas shovel ready job program to be more pink collar oriented because they are a bunch of selfish evil cunts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 10:30 PM
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“Emily is not blind to the class differences between her and Alex. When she first met his parents, for instance, she was a little surprised when she had to sleep on the couch for the stay and his family ordered pizza for dinner. "I was used to my family's house, where we have multiple guests beds and plan huge menus," Emily said. "But I'm fine with being frugal."” Boy would she be in for a surprise if she dated someone actually poor. Being frugal isn't ordering pizza poor/lower class frugal peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 10:23 PM
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I won't cheat again! She did twice again after that. Never date crazy women even if they are hot and the sex is amazing it is never worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 10:17 PM
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I have very little interest in ass so boobs by far.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 06:54 PM
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I know they were saying that, but the women here are also saying that friendships won't be the same thing as a relationship so I am calling them all out on being liars.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 05:00 PM
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While also competing with the men for the jobs and being given advantages to be hired.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 08:01 AM
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With MGTOW the only toys they can afford have lead paint that is why refuse to buy them anymore. Oh and some of them are crazy women which are like lawn darts great fun but incredibly dangerous and frequently wind up with the kids injured.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 07:59 AM
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By that logic shouldn't I be able to fuck a hot girl whether she consents or not because it is better for my future children to be hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 06:36 AM
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who's not obsessed with that shit. Why are poor people so obsessed with money? It is just money who cares. Says person who has a multiple million dollar trust fund and goes on multiple fancy vacations a year. When you don't have something you desperately need/want you are obviously going to obsess about it more compared to if you have it then you are just going to take it for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 06:16 AM
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Your college must not have many foreign students.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 06:07 AM
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Every woman I bought nice thoughtful gifts for rapidly lost interest in me. I think it has been over 10 years since I got a thoughtful gift from a woman. I don't expect something big or expensive but jesus something as impersonal as socks from a girlfriend is insulting. Fuck one girlfriend got me a gift certificate to a fast food chain I hate that I had told her twice I hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 06:04 AM
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Yeah somehow a woman 3 who makes 25k a year will only date a guy in her league making minimum 45k it is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 05:49 AM
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Foodie call which 23% of women admitted to in a survey despite the survey showing it was morally wrong https://www.newsweek.com/foodie-calls-women-dates-free-meals-personality-trait-1445156
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 05:42 AM
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Okay now I feel a little bit bad about someone being that innocent getting hurt wow,
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 05:41 AM
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I mean statistically more women swallow than men given how much rarer gay men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 05:37 AM
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Exactly if you are a guy who is a 3 you can't date a woman 3 because she is either being pumped and dumped by multiple times by a 7 or sometimes higher or she refuses to date entirely if she can't get that 7. Alternatively she got scooped up by some 5 or 6 with money who struggled with women 5 and 6 because they were busy getting pounded by male 9s. Lastly low level women would literally rather be alone than date within their league which leaves a whole lot of excess men especially on the bottom…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 05:36 AM
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Girl that treats me good and does things like bring me lasagna I would tolerate an N count that high. 37 is a fucking lot though jesus but beggars can't be choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 05:31 AM
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What do you mean feminists don’t care about men? Because they have done tons of other horrible stuff and most of the things you point out I either don't believe or know it is not true such as the fight in combat thing (feminists fought against stuff like being included in the draft for example) or they did it for themselves. As examples of the horrible stuff they did off the top of my head fought against dual custody in Florida because they hated fathers having that be the norm, fought a male do…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 05:29 AM
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My experience is older men are more likely to enforce it, but not as much older women for some reason. Just my experiences though so who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 05:24 AM
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You can tell this based on how women complain about getting hit on in various locations but it doesn't matter what location if the guy is hot. They just literally don't want to be bothered by the bottom half of guys and an ugly guy hitting on her is an outright insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 01:22 AM
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Strangely I find older women to be a lot more sympathetic to men and way less likely to be man haters which shows what an awful influence feminism has had on society.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 01:20 AM
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What got me was the women who would do 10 minutes on the lowest setting on the bike get off it play with her phone while blocking equipment for 20 minutes then stretch for another 20 minutes. You could do that shit at home just by walking around the damn block a couple times! The hell is the point of going to the gym if you are not going to work?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 01:15 AM
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Because if i actually believed those were my only options I get it, I'd also go mgtow. I knew my main source of partners would be having to be a beta provider to the same women who previously had no interest in me which is another reason I went the mgtow route.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 01:13 AM
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Clerks was right about the girl that brings you lasagna being the kind of girl you want to keep.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 01:11 AM
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I personally don't see much of a difference between the two to me it is all stuff you have to do with your partner as a form of mutual support.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 01:09 AM
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Or do you mean ugly men are genuinely attracted to ugly women? You get used to it and learn to find other things attractive about them or focus on the good body parts like big boobs on a fat chick. You also quickly realize you can't have everything and are going to have to make sacrifices or be realistic. If a girl has a gym body yeah that is hot, but chances are it is going to come with downsides and we are going to have less in common so I would rather date a girl I have more in common with wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 01:04 AM
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This is the same gender that thinks felony records are catnip so are we really that surprised?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:59 AM
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Because women insist on dating the top guys who are also dramatically more likely to cheat and repeatedly at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:56 AM
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It was a couple months ago so I don't have it on hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:55 AM
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My experience is she needs to vent about work or talk about drama with her friends or someone she knows dying I am the one to deal with it. She needs attention? I do it. She needs a therapy session? I do it. etc and I am also supposed to be the one to lead the relationship and take on that burden. But when I need help? It is like I gave her some monumental task that she doesn't want to have to deal with and is only doing it as a favor to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:30 AM
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There is a world of difference between being a loving and supportive partner and doing a mans emotional labor for him. Not according to the women here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:24 AM
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Doesn't make a difference the woman doctor will still expect a guy to make the same or preferably more than her somehow. You know whats better than money? More Money. "The only thing better than a crawfish dinner is five crawfish dinners." https://www.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/ac1da8eb-3a40-4962-ad41-ff841c3cfadd
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:22 AM
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No, men will take less. Men care more about consistency and understand concepts like loyalty women do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:19 AM
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In my experience most women don't feel that way only guys do. The women who do feel that way only feel that way about the top 20% of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:18 AM
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If he winds up short pay the money to have his bones broken to make him taller women care that much about height. He may hate you and hate the pain, but it is better than being alone and dealing with women hating him and I am saying this as a tall guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:12 AM
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You're not a child, why are you talking about "being bad"? They made comments about how I was entitled and that women should not have to do mens emotional labor. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows that friendships and intimate relationships are different. Thats what I told them, but they told me I was wrong and somehow it was my fault I was not able to get my needs met from friendships. Did the women here suddenly shift opinions on the subject or are they just liars with double st…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:10 AM
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Out of all of the women I dated ONE put in as much emotional effort as I did. Most of the guys I know have similar experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:07 AM
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Can't make an argument when you get called out? Insult time!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:05 AM
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It really just goes to show they don't care and look for bullshit excuses that don't even apply to their own life to rationalize/excuse the fact they don't give a shit about the bottom 50% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:04 AM
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Are you objectively attractive? If so, go through your list of guy friends, call them up, tell them you've broken up with whoever, and you really need some comfort tonight around 11pm. See who volunteers to show up. You don't even have to be attractive just willing to manipulate men I have known 300 pound women with orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:01 PM
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I've had to tell people "hey, I don't know if I'm reliable right now, and I don't want to lead you on". This is the shitty feeling, and wasn't convenient to me, but right thing to do. Period. But then they would not get all the things they like so why would women do that? It is much better to string you along for months or years occasionally giving out crumbs of affection and smidgeons of hope in exchange for the constant help, attention, and having so much care given.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:00 PM
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I was told that I was being bad by expecting a partner to support me and care about me because women are not going to date me thus I should try and replicate it with friends, but now the same kinds of women here are saying no you are wrong how we treat friendships and relationships is different! I made the same fucking argument but they said I was wrong and here they are saying it!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:52 PM
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Nah sorry I was a feminist I wasn't looking for a reason to be against it but when I shared my issues as a lower class male and got attacked for it or shared my issues with depression and was told to kill myself or similar statements from feminists they gave me a fucking reason. You don't get to act like a hate movement and wonder why people are against you. KILL ALL MEN! Why are you saying we hate men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:50 PM
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Yup because women only care about themselves and are more than willing to lie and have double standards when it comes to dealing with guys. The lying is bad enough, but to turn around and state that it is different when the shoe is on the other foot is infuriating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:48 PM
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Wow and yet the women here somehow tell me this is not true when guys point out how they can't replicate a relationship with friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 09:03 PM
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I would say 2 years or so after it transitioned from a normal friendship into her using me because I was interested. It was a gradual realization and then once she stopped talking to me because she found a rich guy the spell was broken the rest of the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 08:42 PM
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Where their is smoke their is fire. Anyone willing to identify as a feminist is almost always going to be incapable of caring about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 08:40 PM
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My example is initially I mostly saw the concept of emotional labor and complaining about it coming from feminists in places like tumblr.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 08:17 PM
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I mostly see it being used by uncaring evil women looking for an excuse for their behavior and inability to care. It is a standard DARVO tactic of reverse victim that abusers use.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 08:12 PM
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You don't have an obligation to tell them to stop doing things for you that they started on their own volition. That isn't what is happening though they are encouraging this and also not setting up barriers to prevent it from happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 08:10 PM
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but that's nobody's obligation You don't have an obligation to not use people? Seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 08:06 PM
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Rare I fall for a woman and actually feel in love she was one of the three I fell for over my life so far so I put in a lot of effort trying to get her to like me. To me blaming me is like blaming someone for being scammed you don't know you are being scammed at the time it is just after the illusion wears off that you go wait a minute what just happened. You don't realize you are being manipulated until after you have have already finished being manipulated otherwise the manipulation would not …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 08:05 PM
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Also because of emotional support. You don't pay therapists to make you company, you pay them to help you navigate through your issues. Of course these same women will never do that for their partner and call it emotional labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 07:56 PM
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One woman managed to friend zone and manipulate me for years I spent those years constantly helping her with tons of things emotional support, heavy lifting, money, whatever while she dated a string of hot douchebags who treated her badly despite me telling her I was interested. Eventually she found a rich guy and no longer even talks to me because she doesn't need my help anymore. This would have been bad enough, but anytime I needed help she never helped so I got to do all the work of a relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 07:54 PM
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You don't get the cute high school girl when you are younger. you don't get the cute anime milf type with huge knockers and a nice caring personality when you are older and instead you get a monster out of a scary gore filled horror anime. Is it any wonder guys are refusing the beta bucks strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 07:48 PM
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I lash out because my kindness was repeatedly used and abused by women. I was the kind of guy who would give someone in need the shirt off their back, but womens reaction was I want your pants and wallet too now leave me alone now that I have all of your stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 07:43 PM
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Women are not honest so this thread doesn't even need to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 07:38 PM
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Are we going to act as batteries for him like in the Matrix?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 07:36 PM
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Status symbol, having kids, and because you know whats better than money? More money. Look at what the kooks in FDS want stuff they can show off such as tall good looking guys and rich guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 07:35 PM
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Some day I would really like to visit the magical fantasy land some of the posters in this subreddit live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 07:19 PM
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It sounds great and all but imagine 20-30 years from now when that is the equivalent to dialup.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 07:09 PM
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So fantasy land that doesn't exist for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 07:08 PM
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I miss the old gays who knew how awful women were and did things like called them fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 07:03 PM
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Do you live in some futuristic utopia society or something? Because from what I have seen men are still expected to do all the emotional support for women and help them constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 07:02 PM
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I was using that as a similarity because when groups like interpol set up traps for pedos it is called honeypots which I suspect is what this is just for men instead of pedos.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 07:01 PM
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If you want I can start bringing up other examples of feminists who are leaders and in positions of power doing and saying similar horrible things such as influencing the FBI/the law so that men could not be raped or I can start bringing up the horrible things your foot soldiers have done to us such as pulling fire alarms during presentations. Feminism attracts man hating evil women like flies to a dead body because it is a hate movement and always will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 07:00 PM
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We have had that happen a couple times already go read up on the experience a lot of serial killers have with their mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 05:55 PM
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Woman can not be responsible for men. Men need to use their own autonomy. That is nonsense when men are still responsible for women especially their partner when it comes to emotions or anything else they need help with so it is incredibly hypocritical for women to turn around and say no I am not going to help my partner it just paints them as evil uncaring cunts. You mentioned us being stuck in 1950s gender rolls but female breadwinner and duel income households have skyrocketed sense then. I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 05:47 PM
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The person who started the United States first womens studies program openly advocated for men to be culled to 10% of the population. Feminism is a hate movement ala the white pride movement and always has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 05:45 PM
2

From what I can tell based on my experiences and talking to women when they trust me enough they want the bottom half of men to be either dead or completely invisible to them preferably dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 05:44 PM
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I am saying it is and impossibility and some sort of elaborate trap used to lure people in to eventually attack them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 05:42 PM
2

Meanwhile women sipping out of male tear mugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 08:03 AM
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MRAs and feminists often work together. Since when? Feminists shut down and protest anything we do even something as basic as having speakers from books we agree with or opening male domestic violence shelters. Feminism deserves the hatred they get they fought men every step of the way they are no better than the klan.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 08:00 AM
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Men no longer are breadwinners. We've shifted this expectation into duel income households as being the norm. Do you think with effort we can also shift this gender norm? Is that the only way to solve the issue? Honestly I see zero chance of it from my perspective guys gender roles are still stuck in the 1950s among other examples try telling a woman she can't date guys who make more than her and watch her go berserk. If little to no progress has been made on other less troublesome fronts their …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 07:58 AM
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Oh yes what a stunning argument I am truly wrong. Fuck off with your low effort idiocy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 07:52 AM
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Better than my experience mine was them directly and repeatedly telling me to kill myself or similar comments whenever I opened up about it. Yet another example of why I turned against feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 07:49 AM
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If you believe this, then why do so many men complain that feminism doesn’t address men’s issues? Because feminists claim to be addressing them which is why we should shut the fuck up about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 07:47 AM
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Moving on, how do we then show men that moments of weakness are not absolutes. Don't treat them badly when they show that. It's true that either gender is abandoned by their s.o in times of sickness but do male friends really abandon each other? My personal experience is men don't abandon each other, but are just incapable of helping because helping a man feels so unnatural and off and goes against so much of how we are. They can help with actual help when they can such as trying to tackle the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 07:44 AM
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For some reason men refuse to seek medical and mental health help in much larger numbers then woman. Because they are never treated well by medical and and especially mental health workers. This means single men have trouble reaching out to friends and family. Because people don't care about men. Reaching out for help will just result in people abandoning you your only worth as a man is your usefulness and if that comes into question because of mental or physical health issues you can wave goodb…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 06:57 AM
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Even if I didn't get it straight from their mouth when I ask when the majority of women I know have never dated a guy under 6 in the entire time I have known them it is kind of obvious what they require.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 06:52 AM
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Did I feel bitter about it at first? Now imagine dealing with that with multiple women while society tells you women want nice guys like you. It would drive any normal person mad. But nobody fucking deserves it. If they had left me the fuck alone and stuck with abusive guys that would have been bad enough, but to come into my life and then rip whatever I felt away from me and hurt me means they deserve it. It is like an addict hurting his family sure he is an addict, but that doesn't mean his fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 06:43 AM
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We lie to men and say “looks don’t matter” to be polite so we don’t have to worry as much about angry reactions. You are getting those same angry reactions now just after years of build up. They would not be as bad if you had just told the truth right away this is like something out of a moral fable or tale we tell children about lying getting out of hand and making things worse etc. Men get mad when we say we don’t like baldness and pot bellies. They call us body shamers, same when we say we do…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 06:39 AM
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Not worth putting in hours upon hours of effort to date a woman significantly beneath you as a guy especially when most of what determines a guys numbers is stuff outside of his control like genetics. Would you spend thousands on the womans equivalent where it is thousands on makeup, surgery, hours in the gym, constantly dressing up, etc to date someone who smells like fritos and is ugly? No way you would not think that effort was worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 06:34 AM
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Yeah that sounds similar to some of my own experiences and observations with women. Thanks for the explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 02:17 AM
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Women are heavily attracted to dark triad traits and things such as sociopathy. We know somehow women are attracted to these men even when they don't know they have these traits based on how it effects physical features that women go after. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3461843/Why-women-look-bad-boys-Brooding-looks-reveal-dark-triad-personality-traits-make-men-strong-fathers.html
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 02:15 AM
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Genuine question would you mind going into that? Would be interesting to see how it is for women who are also dealing with it and maybe we can find some common ground etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 01:58 AM
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What like show up to a job shake the bosses hand with a firm grip get a job that paid enough for a house, a stay at home wife, and gave me a pension? Then I never had to pay attention to the kids or care about house keeping or cooking? Sign me the fuck up. Plus women back then were dramatically better and less fussy about looks so it sounds even better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 01:53 AM
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Can't trust how women rate mens looks when they somehow think most are below average despite that being a statistical impossibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 01:49 AM
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Sure, but I can feel way fuller for longer off 200 calories of chicken breast or vegetables than I can off 600 calories of carbs but guess which is cheaper? My lunch when I was younger was two or three peanut butter sandwiches because that was all that I could afford and I would be hungry an hour or two later now it is something like chicken, a large vegetable side, and maybe some brown rice or quinoa and I am still full until supper time. The vegetable side alone probably cost as much as those …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 01:45 AM
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As an example sociopaths are more likely to rise to the top such as in a corporation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 01:41 AM
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Like a woman will say “Omg he’s such a good man he actually remembered my birthday/did the dishes once this year/wipes his own ass/has never hit me,” and another woman will reply, I dated a couple women like that who initially acted super happy I treated them well and was not abusive and you know what happened? They got bored and broke up with me to go right back to dating abusive guys. Women get what they deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 01:40 AM
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It would be like me dating a hot girl who could be a model and acting surprised she is high maintenance and loves attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 01:10 AM
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Love seeing the exact same kind of women who ignored me in my 20s when I was struggling suddenly act interested now that I am making good money and they want babies (twice so far women I asked out that turned me down years ago). If I wasn't good enough for you then why the fuck should I give you even an ounce of thought now that the shoe is on the other foot and your looks have faded. Why would I give you the rest of my life supporting you when you wouldn't even give me a couple of your best yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 12:48 AM
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All I know is I and a lot of other guys I know got used and taken advantage of by a lot of shitty women who then never repaid the favor or left the second they found something better or the money dried up. It is one of the many reasons I refuse to ever take the beta bucks route.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 11:50 PM
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Women give men hard time pricesely to test and see who will come out stronger than they are. If you can't handle it, they have successfully filter out a male that's useless to them. Then they act surprised when some of them wind up in a situation like Pyle and the Drill Sergeant in Full Metal Jacket.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 11:41 PM
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Sounds like a honeytrap they set for pedos or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 11:37 PM
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Zero chance he ever hits general population.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 11:30 PM
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Women have zero loyalty or concept of giving back you can take a bullet for them and three weeks later when you are still recuperating they will ask what you did for them today.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 11:29 PM
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If the single rates are like this what do you think the N counts are going to be like? https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ 51% of men 18-29 report being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 11:26 PM
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City of 200,000 people and the women who do online dating will somehow be able to compare notes and have a group complaining session about them all having dated the same 5-10 guys because they are all so picky that only those guys are good enough. Minimum 5000 guys on the site currently active but somehow they all wind up going on a date with the same 5-10 guys? Women are insane and I am surprised our STD rates are not higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 11:23 PM
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Most people aren't confused. This confusion is almost only found amongst neuro atypical male redditers. Most men are confused or know women are liars they just know questioning or mentioning it makes them a target or deeply unpopular so they keep their mouths shut. Guys on the bottom are already a target and deeply unpopular so they have nothing to lose by keeping their mouths shut and pointing out women being liars.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:34 PM
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If the kinds of women you are attracting are like this then you need to be higher quality to get the women you actually want. Not possible with womens rampant hypergamy it means a guy unless he is in the top 20% will be stuck with a woman 2 points below him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:30 PM
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Over the years I have known a couple, but that is out of hundreds of guys. Just because exceptions exist doesn't mean that they are the norm. About 60% of guys I have dealt with are single always or almost always but among women that number is not even 5%.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:27 PM
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I used to feel bad for the first couple times I heard women talking about it, but now after years of dealing with women who have been abused I know they intentionally went after it seeking it out or tolerate it because they care more about vagina tingles because he is hot or rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:23 PM
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Trust me women are no picnic you women can't cook anymore, ignore their kids, are getting fat as fuck, and spend too much time on their damn phones so don't start throwing rocks when you live in a glass house.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:22 PM
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Because you'd have to have something seriously wrong with you if you genuinely though looks don't matter AT ALL to some people. When I say I don't like green eggs and ham it means I don't like green eggs and ham it doesn't matter how you dress it up or that we are somewhere else I don't like green eggs and ham and if you saw me eating it you would rightfully call me a liar. If you don't want people to be confused don't use exact language if you don't actually mean that exact thing. You also don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:20 PM
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Not to sound like a complete anime weeb but their is a quote from an anime that sums up how women view bad men and good men. "To a girl, a man who's nice to everyone hmm I suppose that works as an example, to a man it would be like a woman who opens her legs to anyone.... A woman wants a man who only shows his love to her" In other words women don't like guys who are nice to everyone they want a guy who is nice to just them and would honestly prefer a guy who is evil to everyone else because of …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:13 PM
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That just means women can't communicate properly. When they say I don't care about looks that means they should not care about looks obviously, but if that is not what they mean they should not say that instead they should say something like "I do not care about looks that much" or "I care about looks less than normal" or "I care less about looks than I do personality". If you don't speak with precision and also don't follow through with what you said don't be surprised when people are confused …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:09 PM
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Lets see women back then were feminine, loyal, good personalities, willing to compromise and work on a relationship, and had more realistic expectations on looks. All this is the opposite of modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:05 PM
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Felony record and no job? What a complete failu wait did you say 6'5??????
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:03 PM
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This is why so many single mothers continues having struggles finding even half decent men as even something as simple as co parents. Most men with money are going to refuse to date a single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:01 PM
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Going to laugh when he eventually leaves you for another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:59 PM
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No offense but if you were like women from my great grandmothers generation I would gladly do that, but modern women sure as hell are not so no thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:58 PM
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Get em drunk a couple times and act nonjudgemental and it will spill out. As an example half the women I was friends with admitted to cheating either multiple times or on multiple boyfriends when drunk with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:53 PM
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I am a fat ugly single mother with 3 kids no job and a personality that makes people shudder why are guys only using me for sex? Why do I only attract losers? Because any guy with potential or actual success is not going to go after you because of all your problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:49 PM
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Emotional attraction doesn't matter if you still choose the hot one and Chad doesn't give two shits about long term emotional attraction relationship bullshit. If you want that stop going for the hot ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:48 PM
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low bmi, and a gym training routine to maintain a low bmi and good muscle mass That somehow doesn't cut into the time he spends with me. This also goes for work I don't care if he is a lawyer making 250k a year and I don't have to work I am going to fuck the pool boy because I am so alone!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:42 PM
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Lost count of how many women told me I was a nice guy or made comments about things like I will make some woman very happy some day etc. They were just a bunch of lying cunts who cared more about vagina tingles and saving face than they did telling me the truth or helping me because women are cunts who only care about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:40 PM
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Man the main reasons it helped is I could afford fresh produce and also had more free time to cook healthier meals. No more relying on ramen or other cheap carbs to get through the day I can actually afford something tasty like a red pepper that costs 3 times as much as the ramen did.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:32 PM
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Being able to afford eating healthier made a giant difference for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 05:26 PM
2

Feminism is not only a female power movement, but also a female power movement. I can't tell if this is intentional or a misspoken/mistyped sentence but it is still true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 04:58 AM
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I’ve cried myself to sleep many nights knowing I’m inherently less valuable than my male counterparts in everything I do. That I have so little to look forward to. That is really not how I look at it to me the average woman has more inherent worth by a long shot, but has less she can do to improve it. On the other hand the top male has way more and the bottom 80% of men has multiple times less. Are you really willing to risk it all on the chance you wind up in that top 20%? Especially when a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 04:57 AM
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At this point after all my bad experiences dating and being friends with women I think I am more walls than person. It would take years for me to actually trust a woman again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 04:53 AM
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Depends on the guy but yeah they exist. I would not call them common, but they are a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 03:08 AM
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Can you really blame them? It is like dealing with test anxiety or interview anxiety vs how much easier it feels doing the exact same thing once you are already hired.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 03:06 AM
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When she says she wants a nice guy like you she doesn't mean a nice guy like you it means she wants the hot guys she dates to be nice to her. Given the choice though between a hot guy who treats her bad including to the point of abuse or a nice but below average looking guy she will take the hot guy every time then complain she lost a tooth. It took me years to figure this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 02:03 AM
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So what if you are still poor at 28 just try harder obviously bro. It is somehow your fault you gotta push harder. Why do women keep rightfully pointing out when it comes to economics those arguments are stupid but when it comes to men make those exact same arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 02:00 AM
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If you are only attracted to sub 20% of men then the problem is you not the guys. Your standards are too fucking high especially when you don't offer anything that guys want. It would be like a 500 pound dude living in his parents basement saying he will only date 95 pound models who love video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 10:12 PM
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Well its true. And I don't feel guilty about it. FDS poster doesn't care about men and only cares about herself this and other news such as water is wet at 11. The top overlapping subreddit for FDS used to be raised by narcissists and obviously it rubbed off on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 10:06 PM
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Why is it called selkie? The only selkie I know is from mythology so I am curious why it is called that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 08:43 PM
2

You can do a shocking amount inside with just bodyweight exercises.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 08:42 PM
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Give me a time and a place and I will show up with the sledgehammer from my garage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 08:41 PM
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Watching FDS posters get destroyed is always funny but this one is exceptionally good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 07:45 PM
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The number one go to insult for women currently is calling men virgins and incels. Men don't shame men that much it is usually women doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 05:48 PM
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Is it me or is that an absurdly large number? A woman who is average at around 5'4 would need 6 feet to 6'2 which is at the 84th percentile and above. https://dqydj.com/height-percentile-calculator-for-men-and-women/ Further evidence womens standards are absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 08:49 AM
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Oh right can't argue your point immediately go to insults. Why in the fuck are you here if you don't want to actually debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 07:18 AM
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Since you decided to be rude I will respond in kind. Sounds to me like someone is sensitive about their time with uncle Pete and doesn't like being reminded of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 07:17 AM
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Just be a genuinely nice guy— not a “nice guy,” just... be kind, thoughtful, genuine. If you’re fun to be around, everyone (including girls) will like you. This isn't how it works and has been repeatedly disproven here in multiple discussions with multiple studies. Being a nice guy will just get you used and treated badly or completely ignored by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 05:48 AM
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Depends on your starting point. Hitting the gym for a couple years and dressing nice etc is at most going to add +2 to your score and making good money is going to add +1 to +2 depending on the girl. Now remember to a girl anything below an 8 is invisible no matter if she is a 2 or 4 so if you are not a 5 or 6 it is a waste of time outside of general health benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 05:46 AM
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It means exceptions exist and some guys are okay with being beta bucks trading cash for the occasional sex in a loveless relationship if you can call it a relationship. I am not okay with that and I think it is not as cost effective. If women are incapable of true love with ugly guys and just use it as a transaction why don't guys do the same thing and just go with hookers?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 02:54 AM
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I had two years that not a single person remembered my birthday including the girlfriend I was dating at the time. I wonder why I am so bitter and angry at the world? I must just be a bad person sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:44 AM
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can you think of a better way (other than just dropping out of social interaction altogether which is worse, Hiring hookers because at least they are honest. If women are never going to love or support you like a partner should just because you are ugly and are only going to occasionally give you reward sex for being a beta provider for them such as a tug job on your birthday you might as well just get hookers because it is cheaper in the long run. An ugly guy is never going to get what he wants…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:40 AM
1

Personally I just chose to no longer gamble but I can't blame them. I just can't blame someone for robbing the casino after it used loaded dice to cheat him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:36 AM
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And separate your nieces and nephews screaming from their mothers? Well they kicked me out of the village and ostracized me for years so yeah pretty much. Because of them I had to suffer more when I was already suffering for example dealing with discrimination by women teachers who had been indoctrinated by feminism. Because of them I had a harder time getting a job due to affirmative action bullshit. Because of them their were no scholarships for people like me and I had to work my way through …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:33 AM
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How are there more women in relationships than men? That is easy they are soft poly with the top percentages of guys. A top guy will easily have a girlfriend, a mistress and maybe a third side piece all three of which think they are in a relationship with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:24 AM
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The request is make women realize their tastes are outlandish and they should stop being so hypergamous. Imagine if most guys only would date supermodels and anyone else was told no no you are not good enough go fuck yourself women would rightfully point out how stupid that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:21 AM
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So why not just blame that person? Because blaming them is a waste of time you are better off going after the people enabling them and encouraging them. Why go after individual drug addicts when you can go after the dealers and kingpins?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:20 AM
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Sounds to me like someone can't admit they are wrong when presented evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 10:40 PM
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51% of men aged 18-29 are single so that to me sounds like you are full of shit. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 10:34 PM
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Oh right sorry I forgot women are crazy and somehow think the majority of men are below average despite that being a literal mathematical impossibility my bad!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 10:23 PM
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I didn't bother I just wrote them off as yet another pink pill nutcase who only cared about womens desires and mens desires didn't even register to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 10:18 PM
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Go spend an hour or two in Wal-mart and you will see what I am talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 10:16 PM
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I'm sorry that you had that experience. One of the (many) problems with feminism is that it is has historically been upheld by upper-class women. It doesn't surprise me that they would be unsympathetic to issues of a working class man, tho that is certainly disappointing. Yeah working class kid who is struggling to try and complete high school because of poverty and worried about being able to pay for college gets yelled at and insulted and told he is privileged by women is not exactly going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 10:14 PM
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ANYONE BUT CHAD IS RAPE! Is how women feel apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 10:07 PM
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So, not because he was a douchebag? If you are willing to accept beatings because he is hot well then you get what you deserve. Is she really a 2, then? A 2 should be receiving not much attention, much less so by 9s and 10s. The friend zone girl was a 3 and she got a lot of attention because she was nerdy and smart which guys like Therefore, it is not douchebaggery that which attracts. No we know it is being a douchebag that attracts from tons of studies showing women loving guys with dark triad…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 10:07 PM
0

I see the opposite far far FAR more often with 250 pound hambeasts 3 kids in tow and a tall good looking but exhausted guy following.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 10:04 PM
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You joke but I had a woman here a couple weeks ago make that actual argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 09:56 PM
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Mens standards are already in the toilet the problem is womens are so god damn sky high that it doesn't make a difference. A male 4 can't find a date because women 3 refuse to date on their level they would rather be pumped and dumped by a 9 or be alone instead of dating someone on their level. Even 300 pound women have beta orbitters the problem is not mens standards!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 09:53 PM
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Let me see the friend zone girl dated good looking guys then complained about being treated bad but then eventually ended up with a rich as hell dude to where she no longer has to work. The arm broken girl went for the guy because he was hot. as there are people who are not douchebags, are nice guys, and are in stable relationships and have ONS. Sure exceptions always exist no one is questioning that what we are saying is that the norm is not these exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 09:50 PM
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When it happens to a lot more men than me and it is caused by women yeah it is a gender problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 09:48 PM
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If all it takes you to leave your religion is getting diddled by the priest you weren't strong in your convictions to start with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 09:47 PM
1

but people not doing their job isn't killing people. By enabling and encouraging it instead of trying to fight against it that is not good. Your job is a gatekeeper and you are completely failing thus it is your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 09:47 PM
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They want kids thus not being able to have them is a punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:56 PM
1

How would it not be the fault of the guy who shot something up? Because it shows people are not doing their jobs the bouncers are not patting people down and the club owner is too cheap for a metal detector or metal detecting wands. You are always going to have bad actors and refusing to deal with them much less saying CMON DOWN WE LOVE PEOPLE WITH GUNS like women do shows you are not doing your job.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:55 PM
0

No judgement from me women get what they fucking deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:54 PM
5

At the time the issues I brought up were the overlapping issues of being lower class and a male who was struggling because of that and feminists response was to scream at me and insult me. When I brought up the issues I had with feminism such as things I thought were inconsistencies or double standards I lost friends. When I brought up the issues I had dating they called me a MRA so that is what I wound up google searching and since then I have spent the past decade fighting feminists. They mana…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:53 PM
1

I am sorry but when one is acting as a bouncer at a club checking them for weapons and lets a string of guys in that shoot up the place or stab people it is kind of obvious whose fault it is the bouncers who are not doing their jobs. Is it bad that people are doing this? Yes but it is the bouncers not doing their jobs and now they have the audacity to complain they have to mop up the blood of the innocents that got shot or that they are getting shot. Well then do your fucking job!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:49 PM
3

Are you attractive? Your level of attractiveness is different than your level of douchebaggery. Women choosing more attractive individuals over lesser attractive ones is human. You are also, I presume, not interested in 6s or 7s and prefer 9s and 10s. Would you date a 4s or a 5s because they are nice women? Probably not. Trust me I tried the oh well maybe I am dating outside my league thing that is why I am getting treated badly thing already. I dated and was interested in women who were what mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:47 PM
1

At least cults preying on that are less common than they used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:41 PM
1

Kind of hard unless you have kids in a major urban walkable city. https://imgur.com/a/flgSzqB
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:40 PM
2

Sure? If she insists that is her right to choose if he doesn't like that he can date someone else. Personally I think it would be a bit silly if the two concerns of birth control+STDs are taken care of already, but that just means I would leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:37 PM
1

Even I have gotten one message so I am surprised you have not gotten any.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:32 PM
3

Women create monsters then complain the monster terrorizes the village. Sounds like you should not have created that monster in the first place!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:29 PM
9

Women are not strongly attracted to enough men and are unwilling to give validation to their partners which shows women are not good to their partners/to men. They also still expect their partner to do these things even though they consider it beneath them which points to a massive double standard or at least a lot of entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:26 PM
9

When it started hating men and feminists attacked men like me instead of supporting us when we needed help. 20 years ago I considered myself a feminist but when I asked for help or pointed out problems in feminist thinking I got attacked and outcasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:23 PM
2

just because I am resentful and angry doesn't mean I am wrong nor does it mean I am not entitled to feel that way. After repeatedly watching douchebag guys have women practically falling over themselves trying to date them while they ignored good guys like me or being friend zoned by one cunt who dated douchebags who mistreated her it leaves me more than a little bit bitter and angry towards them. I had one woman I dated repeatedly call me a nice guy and like my behavior and called me a nice guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:21 PM
1

It wasn't tradcons protesting against dual custody or alimony reform it was feminist groups like the national organization for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:13 PM
6

Guess that one was a hole in one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:12 PM
2

They don't just want someone to pay the bill, they also want someone to have company, to realize a longing for a family. Sounds like they should not have dated douchebags and dated good guys instead. Don't do the crime if you can't take the punishment and this is their punishment for dating a douchebag. It affects the individual as well, but it has to do with us as social creatures. It is rare for someone to abstract themselves out of their community. Which is why most people don't. Very true I …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:09 PM
5

So calling someone or something a fag isn't insulting to gay people?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:06 PM
4

Same goes for height you don't have to be the tallest just the tallest in the room or among her friends boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:05 PM
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Watching them be punished in their 30s brings a smile to my face. Sorry no kids for you bitch! Your few remaining eggs stink like rotten sulfur.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:04 PM
6

Doesn't exactly paint a pretty picture about women does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:56 PM
1

Jobs and family were the two go to hallmarks people had to help build self esteem but jobs are a shit show right now and women made it much harder to have a family so it makes it kind of obvious why men are less happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:51 PM
1

It makes more sense to blame the people making decisions than the person taking advantage of it. If you don't want this behavior stop incentivizing it and stop enabling it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:48 PM
2

You don't. When they tell me to date them and support them and pay for it all I am pretty sure that is them telling me to clean up their mess. Are those most of the cases? I don't know. None of the single mothers I know is the guy a douchebag like that. Sure, don't choose "lil-lazy-B" with a court order to date. That may be so contextually in some communities, but not in any I've seen. In fact, most of the guys I know aren't actual douchebags, they are just immature or are presented with a fathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:46 PM
8

The go to insult from women is calling someone a virgin or incel makes it kind of obvious what they think of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:40 PM
3

Mutual support instead of competition is the way I view it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:01 AM
8

No, men like less experienced women due to paternity issues. Didn't talk about men in my post but okay. Women don't care since they're sure they're the parents. That doesn't explain why women prefer more experienced guys and hate virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 06:11 AM
12

Accidents happen. Sure they do but I don't want to have to be the one dealing with someone elses accident and paying for it. We could all get sick and crap our pants in public, but that doesn't mean I should have to be the one to wipe their ass that is their job not mine. I am not going to make fun of them for it to their face that would be an asshole thing to do, but yet again does not mean I should be the one to have to deal with it. If they act demanding and tell me I am less of a man because…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:49 AM
2

I do think their is a distinction within that though most guys I talk to don't mind a woman being less feminine they mind the downsides that can come with it such as the bossiness. Guys are fine dating the girl they can drink beer with and watch sports with like they would with a bro, but they are not fine with the girl who acts like their boss and is trying to compete with you etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:40 AM
1

Or if something heavy needs to be dealt with or something needs to be repaired.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:30 AM
2

Why do perfectly capable women do this? Because power corrupts once you get used to something being free or easy trying to go back to the old way feels terrible. If you lived life on easy mode with people constantly doing whatever you asked and spoiling you you would rapidly get a princess attitude and expect that treatment every time. Women in general live life on easy mode (tutorial if they are good looking) and it makes them unable to function as they normally would.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:29 AM
1

The bar for being acceptable at sex for women is on the floor. Communicates about sex and during sex, does more than starfish, willing to suck dick occasionally? You are already ahead of the average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:13 AM
-1

From what I remember when I was reading studies years ago most hetero relationship violence is reciprocal (both sides beat on each other). It makes it really obvious that when it comes to relationships women are the more violent ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:09 AM
-1

less DV which shocks me tbh, etc. The highest DV rates are in lesbian relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 11:51 PM
75

Two reasons 1. Women care a lot about preselection and status 2. They are also unwilling to teach or communicate their sexual needs with their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 11:13 PM
2

I miss older hobos because they were usually just alcoholics not on other hard drugs so they were a lot more functional, less dangerous, and you could talk to them. The worst they usually did was stink or puke on the floor now they try and stab you with a needle while screaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 09:28 PM
31

You have two options as a man win and fuck the prom queen or go home and rope yourself. It is a winner takes all thing and women fucking love it because they only care about the winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 08:58 PM
16

what? I know even 300 pound women with beta orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 08:57 PM
4

I had a woman I was dating repeatedly tell me I was a nice guy and when breaking up with me told me I was a nice guy etc why was she breaking up with me? To go date a hot douchebag who broke her fucking arm. I had this sort of thing constantly happen to me not just with her but with other women as well when I tried my best to make them happy and be good to them. You women get what you fucking deserve. To all red pill men reading this take advantage of womens behaviors and enjoy the decline make …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 08:55 PM
5

Three different universities in my state that I know the numbers for the gender ratio hover around 10 men to 1 woman for engineering majors. Back when I was in university the rare woman in those programs half of them hated their classmates and dated normal guys instead and the other half was either in a long term relationship or surrounded by multiple orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 08:28 AM
1

Caffeine is one of those things that is surprisingly easy to get addicted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 02:29 AM
5

I think a good chunk of people under the age of 45 are struggling with mental health issues because of how fucked the world is and how the economy is. How can you blame someone for having issues when the world around them is on fire?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 02:14 AM
2

For you based on my limited interactions with you I don't know how much of it is neuroticism vs other issues such as being younger, a virgin, and religious guilt/upbringing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 01:59 AM
4

Being ugly forces you to learn a sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 11:55 PM
11

Jesus UMC career women really are neurotic and impossible to please no wonder rich guys choose to date their secretary instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 11:35 PM
2

You would be surprised dry spells are a thing for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 10:20 PM
1

And somehow society would say you are the monster not society being the monster.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 08:47 PM
0

Blame the zoning laws it is literally illegal to build the proper density that would support anything but cars.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 08:45 PM
3

Good ole apex fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 08:42 PM
2

It really feels like if you are even somewhat social as a woman such as being in clubs or part of athletic teams or whatever you will have an N count of 6+ by the time you are 24. You don't even have to be good looking the ugly band girls are still getting laid from whatever random Chad they come across or whoever the lone good looking guy in band is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 08:40 PM
2

All I got when I got in better shape was more gay guys hitting on me. Guess muscles can't make up for an ugly face.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 08:33 PM
11

Can you imagine telling someone they don't get some other big life thing and to stop obsessing over it? You don't get to have a family which also means no spending the holidays with them. We are also totally going to shove the fact other people are enjoying having a family and all the benefits that come from family in your face though. Why are you upset and obsessing about it? Makes it really obvious you just hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 06:13 PM
3

Personally I like swimmers or gymnasts because they tend to be the right mixture of muscle and meat in the right places such as on the legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 07:21 AM
3

Start dating nerds they are all three of those things in spades.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 07:20 AM
14

Depends on what the person wants. If they care about looks then no, but if they care about other stuff more then maybe. Unfortunately not enough blind women to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 07:19 AM
0

Assuming that is true wouldn't that say something even worse about women? They are not getting much out of it in your opinion, but are still doing it to an absurd extent. Are they just incompetent, never satisfied, or what in the hell is going on?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 07:17 AM
9

Nah not your fault hard to do it without using something as an example. Just means the discussions will likely get off topic or concentrate on that example instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:50 AM
3

As an example they will argue from the point of men are shit and here is some highly flawed study to support it. That is at least providing evidence and a reason. A pink pill poster will instead just screech about how men are shit and when presented evidence against that either completely ignore it or try and somehow twist it around once again even if it makes no sense to do so. It is like dealing with religious fanatics no matter how much you use real world evidence or logic to argue with them …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:47 AM
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I think you are trying to do too much at once with this. Mens low standards, gender roles being so shitty for men, and women being cunts who don't actually care about their partner are all three different things but you are trying to smoosh them all into one post so it is hard to address it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:44 AM
2

My big issue with the red pill types is they embrace the hedonism of the decay of society and tend to be the manipulate women types. This isn't good even if I think women tend to deserve it. The pink pill types are completely delusional as in break from reality and you have to wonder if they have a mental illness issues or something. Out of all the groups here they are by far the worst which is saying a lot. I may be on the opposite side against feminists for example, but their arguments are at …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:40 AM
1

For me personally the problem is no matter how good the personality it is not enough to bring a 2 into the acceptable category. The opposite is also true though a 7+ with a shitty personality is not worth dating at all and is honestly not even worth fucking to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 01:36 AM
2

Around 15 since then I have found a woman every 6 years or so that I felt similarly about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 01:31 AM
2

Plus, the women were usually more pleasant personality-wise too than the less attractive western women who were into me. That is what I don't get about western women how is it that damn hard to not be a bitch? I don't expect you to be a saint, but for example if you can't go 5 minutes without saying something rude or assholish to me or the waiter what in the hell is wrong with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 01:27 AM
1

This is also getting worse as I get older because I am finding fewer women in my age group attractive. Same pre 30s I would say 80% were in the acceptable zone, but post 30 it feels more like 33%. I don't see why in the hell women somehow get pickier with age bitch you got uglier you should be lowering your damn standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 01:24 AM
2

For me the big thing I hate about the city is the noise but that is caused by automobiles and developers being cheap bastards not really the city itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 12:01 AM
2

The only three redeeming parts about suburbs are you get more space, lower crime, and better schools but I don't want kids and I barely use the space I have now in a normal apartment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 11:24 PM
1

Further proof women are never able to be satisfied as if their was not enough already.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 11:22 PM
2

The people you know are a real exception 50% of men in that category are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 11:20 PM
1

They are rejected time and time again during their youth by average women with overinflated egos, and expected to settle into a marriage with a woman after they are both in their 30s for "companionship" Expected to settle into a marriage with that same woman who previously never gave you the time of day and who had a lot of fun in her 20s while you were struggling or outright suffering. She now also has incredibly faded looks, baggage, and a decent chance of already having a kid. She now wants y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 08:20 PM
1

Also goes to show how easy it is to rack up a high n count as a woman vs a man. How many guys do you know are having sex with three different women a year or more consistently throughout their 20s? That sort of thing would either take massive effort as a man or you would need to be a top 20% guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 08:16 PM
9

No just another pink pill nutter the writing style is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 06:58 PM
5

The red pill types tend to have a lot of issues, but at least they are less completely delusional than the pink pill types.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 06:57 PM
1

No it is hypergamy we know this from whenever men make improvements such as average height increasing the demands become even greater. The average man putting in more work would just result in women being even pickier. Telling guys to improve is a waste of time outside of for their personal enjoyment the problem is women being cunts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 06:56 PM
1

i don't really understand the logic there tbh I didn't either it felt so confusing at first then I felt insulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 12:51 AM
4

I can't find a childfree man and also choose to go the alone route. I don't want kids either but from what I have seen of the community the men struggle more than the women do in regards to dating because the majority of guys are fence sitters who are okay with whatever their partner wants (usually because they are dumb and think their wife will take care of the kids not them due to good ole hidden sexist thoughts/gender roles). The women struggle in other areas such as societal and family press…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 12:45 AM
1

Therapy for the victim instead of punishment for the criminals right that sounds like a normal and sane system.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 12:32 AM
6

Men have to sign up for selective service if they want funds for college but women get those without having to sign up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 12:29 AM
4

If sex is so important, why would you get someone pregnant or have children when pregnancy, childbirth, and children are statistically most likely to kill your sex drive and relationship. Because a lot of women want kids and if you don't want to have a miserable wife you do what she wants unfortunately. Guys put up with a lot because the alternative of being alone or having a partner be constantly angry at you is miserable. Personally I chose the alone option, but most guys would not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 12:28 AM
0

Why would I lie about how I feel towards women because of my experiences? If you don't want guys to end up like me stop being the awful people you are it is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 12:26 AM
2

Why the fuck are women so emotional and sensitive. It drives me up the fucking wall. Because women are children and you tried to treat them like an adult which resulted in a temper tantrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 12:21 AM
4

Me: Excuse me are you in X department? Her: I have a boyfriend. Me: Uhhh I was going to ask for directions to where that department is in the building. One of the many joys of being an ugly dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 12:17 AM
10

Consider that 50% of marriages end in divorce. 80% of which are initiated by women. The majority of women are incapable of long term relationships because they always want something better and have zero concept of loyalty. You can take a bullet for a woman and a month later the cunt will ask what did you do for me this week.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 12:14 AM
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I mean, you’re getting this info from a group of men where the majority doesn’t seem to actually like women as human beings and only value what they can offer sexually. If you have a shitty personality, bad morals, and perform bad actions then guess what all you are good for is sex. We thought being with you would be fine, but we came to find out the majority of women are either insufferable to deal with or monsters. Plus most women don't view men as human beings instead just wallets or somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 12:12 AM
2

To be fair guys are the same way I have lost count of the number of women I was attracted to and interested in but then they said something dumb or horrible. I remember one woman I was into who I liked because among other reasons she seemed smart, but then she talked about how essential oils cured some issues she was having. In a single sentence I lost any attraction I had to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 07:20 PM
2

That is how my mother was somehow we could afford to fill the basement with cheap junk she bought at garage sales, but a college fund? Nope can't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 07:17 PM
3

I find them by far the most annoying due to the absurd entitlement and not being able to understand what guys want due to a complete lack of empathy. Any of their issues on their own such as bad personality, entitlement, lack of empathy, etc might be a deal breaker for a guy but all of it combined leads to a toxic mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 07:10 PM
9

That incident happened when a Chad I knew did exactly that when we were at a restaurant together so I don't need to hire anyone. Hot people get an entirely different set of rules go look up the halo effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 07:03 PM
1

As a guy it feels like if you are not married by 30 or sometimes even 25 it is a complete waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 07:55 AM
5

People continue to disappoint me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 05:53 AM
1

Would heels be considered deception because it makes your legs look better? What about makeup? What about boob jobs or botox?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 04:58 AM
1

Because the hotter girl is an unproven untested thing that might not and most likely will not make me happy whereas the old girl who I know stuck with me and actually likes me is a known variable and a pretty good one at that. Why fuck up a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 04:57 AM
17

I still remember the woman on the first date who called the waiter the N word after he had left. How can someone not last 30 minutes of behaving themselves/trying to put their best foot forward?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 04:54 AM
5

My experience with single women in their 30s is they have 3 categories 1. great, low drama, easy to talk with, and you wonder how they are still single 2. Boring and basic as all hell these are usually the baby crazy women as well 3. Crazy or with insane demands usually these are the high strung career women who are a pain to deal with already. Unfortunately 1 is very rare compared to the other two categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 04:51 AM
22

If it's an attractive guy he doesn't get labeled as creepy unless he crosses a much further line, because there's still the possibility of it being a wanted advance The line for him is far further away as well. A good looking guy can grab a waitresses ass and get her number but I would be in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 03:34 AM
3

Oh wow look another man hating lesbian feminist not like that is a stereotype or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 03:32 AM
1

But you don't understand how they got to this point and blame them for it. After the villagers burned the shit out of the "monster" multiple times is it any wonder he acts out against the villagers during interactions? To use an analogy you beat someone long enough they are going to start fighting back no matter how good of a person they were originally so you need to stop beating people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 03:28 AM
2

That is what I don't get how can you blame someone for being angry after they get repeatedly mistreated, cast out of society, and denied basic human things like companionship? It is like saying yeah you get em villagers with torches burn that monster! No feelings whatsoever for Frankensteins monster or Quasimodo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 11:06 PM
1

Since you decided to get personal I will respond with a simple reply: I can tell why you are not popular with men and only have been on one date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 11:02 PM
3

Problem is you keep going after the wrong men if you would start being willing to date normal guys instead of the hot or rich ones you would not have your numbers be so damn high.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 06:56 PM
2

He is abusive or treated his past girlfriends badly? I am not inter wait did you say 6'5????? and then months later: WHY DOES HE ALWAYS TREAT ME SO BADLY WHERE ARE ALL THE NICE GUYS?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 06:08 AM
1

I refuse to believe anywhere near a third of men are like that and in my experience the kind of guys you describe rarely have issues finding partners especially the abusive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 06:05 AM
8

But somehow the problem isn't women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 12:43 AM
3

He feels that you are making him a favor and don't really want him. A favor that he had to make an effort to get whereas porn has no requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 08:44 PM
21

Women are not less likely to be single. The statistics say otherwise until they are 65. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ Face it women are just soft poly with the top percentages of men which leaves a whole lot of leftover single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 08:41 PM
2

In fact, we've often seen articles or studies that show that not even a guy making a little more than her is enough, oftentimes the woman is looking for a guy making 50% more than her, if not more. Those are around the numbers I see in my personal life do you have any links to back it up next time I have to argue this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:56 PM
3

The reason for women to acquire more money is usually to spend more. I think a lot of this is because way more women care about status especially their status than guys do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:53 PM
7

3rd: The lifestyle I would have for myself is dirt cheap. Because I am with her, I need to pay more to have a better lifestyle that allows for her to be comfortable. It doesn't matter if we share costs, I would still be paying way more than what I would pay if I was single. Yup agree with the rest of it but especially this a lot of guys are perfectly fine with having a simple lifestyle and adding a woman to that means way more expenses. I make good money and my couch and recliner are from 20+ ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:52 PM
9

Makes it kind of obvious a lot of women are soft poly with the top guys. They would literally rather be the other woman than date a normal guy or get pumped and dumped multiple times through the year.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:46 PM
21

Currently 51% of men aged 18-29 are single. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ How can anyone see that stat and not think we are at some sort of epidemic level problem is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 02:20 AM
5

Their is a lot of overlap between the two groups and they both hate men, but it is different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 01:19 AM
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Or for guys who can't see their kids because feminist groups like National Organization for Women fought against dual custody laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 01:18 AM
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Porn isn’t the only factor, no, but I think it does reduce motivation for some men. In other words you are not upset because it is porn but because it reduces the pussy cartels power over men. If you offer a product with a high cost and a lot of downsides like womens shitty personalities as well as general craziness don't be surprised when people go for a cheaper product with less downsides.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 01:07 AM
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Lets accept that as true what are you giving as an alternative? Women and young girls refuse to socialize with them so guess what they are going to seek that out instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 09:50 PM
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The woman who started the first womens studies program in America openly advocated for men to be culled to 10% of the population. Feminism is a hate movement and always has been from its very foundations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 09:48 PM
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Almost sounds like it should be easier for boys and men to find women to date them so that doesn't happen now then doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 09:46 PM
2

If not for the convenience factor I would never eat out I can make better tasting food at home for cheaper. They kept cheapening out on the ingredients and hiring people who don't know a fucking thing about food so that they can make more profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 09:43 PM
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Hearing about their plight makes me smile thanks for writing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 11:59 PM
3

One blowjob away from being a slave on the plantation once again so they remind themselves and each other about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 11:57 PM
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I agree for me going off looks only maybe 20% of women under 30 are in the no category, but for women it is the opposite only 20% are in the good enough category.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 11:54 PM
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lol jesus how many throw away accounts have you been through after they suspended you and your subreddit for being a hate movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 09:19 PM
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Neither is womens absurd hypergamy and even if it was well its natural is an obvious and commonly used fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 09:18 PM
2

Why can't poor people just accept that rich people are wealthy and abusing their wealth is normal and natural?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 07:53 AM
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Based on the increased attention she got from it I would guess a 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 08:58 PM
2

Would help her keep a male 4 or maybe even 5 and have a happy long term relationship with them, but that isn't what she wants so it is a moot point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 07:41 PM
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I knew one woman who was an 8 even before she got her boobs done, but could never keep a man longer than a month because her personality was like nails on a chalkboard. She did eventually find a guy who somehow clicked with her personality but not until she was almost 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 07:40 PM
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At the gym? No At your work or our work? No When we are both doing a hobby? No At the gym? No In an elevator? No When out shopping? No At a bar/club? No (WHAT?? I could not believe women had the stones to claim that one was no longer acceptable.) It just points to the fact it isn't actually the location or context it is just women angry men who are not the the top guys daring to hit on them, but they can't say that so instead they say well no not here not there not anywhere because women are two…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 07:36 PM
1

So always in other words.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 07:29 PM
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20% of men are the ones women want. 30% are getting settled for and get to be a beta provider to someone who doesn't love them, care about them, and just looks at them as a wallet. The bottom half women would gladly see them dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 05:33 AM
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just destroys your life. It makes me smile seeing broke single mothers because baby daddy is in prison. Kind of unfair to punish the child but oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 05:31 AM
1

My grandmother lived off her husbands pension for almost 30 years that paid about 1600 bucks a month on top of normal retirement investments that paid about the same amount. She somehow made more money in retirement than almost all of her grandkids did working.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 05:29 AM
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It happens with women way more often. If you want a personal example I had a woman friend tell me she wanted to name her kid after me, but then after she got a boyfriend suddenly she no longer talks to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 05:22 AM
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Even if that were true it would not account for why the women abandon them as soon as they find a boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 12:30 AM
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Person who founded the first womens studies program at an American university advocated for men to be culled to 10% of the population so this is not as much of a joke towards what they want as you would hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 10:32 PM
3

If their isn't good hardwood underneath look into luxury vinyl tile/plank it is a lot cheaper than wood and is more durable. Not to everyones taste, but it is an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 10:30 PM
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but that isn't what we are discussing? We are discussing basic behavior and you are talking about what it COULD and rarely does escalate to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 10:22 PM
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How so? The reasons are the same they want to control the other person. So what if one is from jealousy and the other is out of wanting power over the other person? It is the same bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 08:54 PM
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oh joy another lil post where she spouts the problem isn't women it is obviously men then completely ignores every piece of evidence otherwise. I could tell it was her just based on the post title alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 08:52 PM
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I swear around 20% of the posters here are completely hamster brained and can't actually have a conversation/debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 08:49 PM
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Once you are 30 guys think all you are worth is for the sex so once they get that or think it will take too long to get they disappear. If you wanted a partner you should not have waited until you were 30 bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 06:22 PM
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And then they wind up on FDS bitching and blaming men for it somehow not their collective hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 06:20 PM
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Happened to me when I got in better shape working a more physical job for two years women didn't care, but gay men were even more interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 06:19 PM
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While the redpill might be right a gym body will help it doesn't do as much as one would hope due to womens insane collective hypergamy to the point it is basically a waste of time/effort unless you are already above average. Having a gym body dressing nicely in expensive clothes etc is only going to add at most +2 to a guys score which means a guy who is a 3 because of an ugly face or being short is now a 5 only his match? A woman who is a 180 pound ugly 3. You spend the last 3 years drenched i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 06:17 PM
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What are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 05:19 PM
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They can get better value men in their 20s, don't lose their ability to pair bond, and it is actually a fair deal for their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 05:19 PM
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Less need of a beta orbiter providing stuff for you if your boyfriend does it for you. Women only care about themselves so when the friend stops being able to provide for them to the curb they go.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 06:19 AM
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In addition to that it means you notice your wife aging or losing her looks a lot less because of pair bonding. This is yet another reason why women need to marry young instead of in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 06:18 AM
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And straight women who think their significant other is their therapist are just as delusional and childish as men who expect the same That attitude is exactly why I think women are incapable of caring for men. It is supposed to be a partnership were you support each other but women are apparently not able to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 06:15 AM
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as I assume most functional adult women do Wow that one made my stomach hurt from laughing so hard. The police are not going to protect you in the moment just come to write a report when you are in the hospital. Contractors are going to cost you money. And women not needing to be emotionally supported is downright hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 01:14 AM
1

A bikini top on a hot woman is one of the few reminders I have of god loving us.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 01:10 AM
3

As opposed to the same 4 TRP is right about X no TRP is wrong about X arguments? It is going over the same shit either way at least this adds extra angles to the arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 01:08 AM
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Most guys when asked say among women in their age group over 60% are in their acceptable zone. Guys look at women as a complete bell curve which means less than 20% are never touch category.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 01:03 AM
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A couple of years ago, a female friend of my wife did a men 6'+ dating event. She believed that there are thousands of men over 6' in our area. https://dqydj.com/height-percentile-calculator-for-men-and-women/ Only 16% of men are 6 feet and above. Now lets say they also have to be single which likely eliminates 3/4th of them (tall guys more likely to be in a relationship because it is what women want) .16 * .25= .04. Now lets take into account age if men age 20-30 make up 14.1% of total men http…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 12:57 AM
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The men are the same if you marry them in your 20s or in your 30s. No men improve as they get older in categories women care about for example finances, but women only get worse as they get older thus expecting to get the same deal in your 30s as you would have gotten in your 20s is not going to happen. Make the investment when you are young and have more power not when you are older and have less value.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 12:47 AM
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Lets see what obligations a guy has that a woman does not have financial support, having to be the one giving your partner orgasms during sex, having to physically protect her if need be , need to be emotionally supportive (women refuse to be emotionally supportive for their partner), Extra grunt muscle work such as moving heavy stuff or fixing stuff around the house or fixing her car, etc. The obligations the man has in a relationship are far far greater than that of what a woman has to do. Lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 12:44 AM
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The difference is guys still actually want you and in a relationship you don't have as many requirements for what you have to do or put up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 10:39 PM
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But that isn't what we are talking about you are moving the goal posts what we are talking about is the statement women only find 20% of men attractive (women on this subreddit state it is more like 5%). That in the original posters opinion means the rest of guys are relegated to roles like beta provider which I don't consider worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:50 PM
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is not worth that I would rather just use my damn hand. Like I said earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:48 PM
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That is gonna be a pass from me I am not interested in being used in exchange for the occasional sex from a woman who doesn't actually like me or treats me badly. That is a bad deal and I am not going to be the sucker taking it. It isn't worth having to be a provider, protector, and constant supporter of a woman who doesn't do any of those things for you in exchange and just gives you bad starfish missionary sex occasionally instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:12 PM
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Is it 'over' for the 80%? No. Being 'beta' should not be an insult. A 'beta' man is a civilized man by and large. You can definitely be a respectable 'beta' who is high earning and comforting, but at the same time you actually have a spine and don't go grovelling for women's attention. Why in the hell should I be the beta provider and take on a fucking ton of burden dealing with her if she doesn't actually want me? The occasional sex that she doles out as some sort of fucked up reward system for…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 07:43 PM
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The times I've been complimented by a stranger I can count on one hand. I still remember compliments I have gotten even from friends from five fucking years ago because they are so rare and cherished. But white middle age men do not get smiled at. The one time a woman smiled at me on the street it turned out she was a prostitute. That was striking to me because it was legit the only time it's ever occurred from the opposite sex, and her motivations for doing so were clear. As an ugly guy instead…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 07:39 PM
2

Almost sounds like you are incentivized to make smart financial decisions early on and invest that money so it is no longer in the briefcase. This way you don't have to worry about scammers and people trying to just use you for your money. What does this sound familiar to? Oh right getting married earlier to a normal nice guy instead of bouncing on the cock carousel developing trust issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 07:37 PM
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Exactly if you are a top person being a guy is better, but if you are in the bottom 80%? Way better off being a woman because you have way more inherent value and society cares way more about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 07:35 PM
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No because competition is bad if you are a cartel or monopoly it reduces the amount you can charge for your product. If their are 100 products and you own 70 of them you can determine the price of not just your own 70 but the other 30 as well. But what if another 100 are introduced to the market? Suddenly your 70 is not determining the market as much and you can no longer charge a premium for your 70 and it doesn't determine the price of the original 30 as much anymore. This is especially true w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 07:32 PM
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Not to the widespread level women are. Women never reached the adulthood state of morals and are just stuck in the child mindset whereas most men eventually reach it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 07:23 PM
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Narcissism and only caring about themselves is an immediate obvious answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:05 AM
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If someone openly admits to a crime then acts shocked when people say they deserve punishment it shows something is wrong with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:10 AM
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Now, women embrace the red pill from 5 years ago with an attitude of 'yeah, so what?' But when you call them evil because of it or state you want revenge suddenly you are the bad guy. What do you mean you want to hurt me for hurting you? Monster!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:08 AM
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Women don't care if they are a plate because women are crazy and just think it is a form of preselection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:03 AM
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Guys aren't allowed to do that with women anyway so what difference does it make? Even the women here talk about how much they hate being supportive calling men children when they have to do it or how much of a turn off it is. You are never going to have a woman be a supporting partner so might as well spend the time getting laid instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:00 AM
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Kind of obvious why the top sub for FDS used to be raised by narcissists the behavior/illness obviously rubbed off on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 01:55 AM
1

Wouldn't being 5'7 just make you average height in third world countries?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 01:49 AM
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Okay now imagine you are dating a guy who treated all his past girlfriends great, but is refusing to treat you that way and instead keeps punching you would you not be upset and insulted and think that he thinks of you as lesser? Because that is what is happening with the genders reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 06:46 PM
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Says the sex that only looks at men as a resource to use.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 06:44 PM
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That is my usual reaction and when it isn't true I am left in a state of confusion trying to figure out WTF is going on. It feels like when you get deja vu or notice something is out of place and it bothers you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 05:26 PM
4

My dad was so bad to live with/date for my mother it made me try to be a better man. He was an overgrown narcissistic manchild that expected her to be his mother. He was the kind of guy FDS complains about high value good looking, but a man child etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 12:37 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 12:31 AM
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Yup women will defend every ounce of power and privilege they have tooth and nail.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 12:28 AM
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I have seen a massive difference in empathy between women pre feminism controlling the culture who are say in their 60s and those born post feminism controlling things so I would agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 08:52 PM
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Yeah even something as basic as trying to defend male victims of domestic violence has gotten me attacked by cunts. Women are only capable of caring about themselves and do not give one flying fuck about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 08:46 PM
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Why? Wanting people to be punished for their crimes is a natural human response.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 08:09 PM
1

Destroy womens hypergamy because that is either the root cause or significant factor for 90% of the problems in the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 08:07 PM
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That isn't true how else would they know how to seek criminals out to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 08:03 PM
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It took me years to finally realize women do not care about men and never will especially issues that effect low value/lower class males so why should I give even the tiniest smidgeon of care about them or their issues? Constantly turning the other cheek does not work I want revenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 08:02 PM
1

It really is the dream too bad finding someone compatible for it is impossible especially if you are a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 05:10 AM
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They suck your dick like their life depends on it, but afterwards they suck the soul right out of your body. Crazy women are never worth it no matter how good the sex is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 01:43 AM
1

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 01:41 AM
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Hvm don’t have n count hang ups. Yes they do they just don't advertise it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 01:38 AM
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The way I see it is their are two options 1. Look for a good marriage minded dude I could easily lock down then live the dual income no kids route retiring at 40-45 or 2. go the sugar dating route and use that to pay for my life while at university. Being able to graduate debt free and not having to work while attending would have been nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 01:35 AM
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I just gave up on dating entirely as an ugly guy the only women who were willing date me are crazy, just want to use me, or are going to treat me badly. The final straw that broke the camels back was dating a woman starting to get feelings for her and she breaks up with me while saying I am a nice guy to go date an abusive guy who broke her arm. I have zero plans to start trying to date once again why should I reward the kind of women who ignored me when I was younger, stated I was a nice guy bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 11:31 PM
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I have dealt with plenty of my own horror shows such as the woman calling the waiter the N word and I have lost count of how many women spent more time on their phone than they did talking to me. I got so sick of it last time I just got up and left without saying anything. This shit is just on the first date as well much less in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 10:49 PM
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Frustrated, single men call women a gold digger for wanting effort placed, so hurt women retaliate by shoving it in people's faces. 23% of women openly admitted to going on foodie calls. https://www.newsweek.com/foodie-calls-women-dates-free-meals-personality-trait-1445156 I know whose fault it is that men are frustrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 10:43 PM
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Even if you throw out all the evidence from online dating that doesn't account for the numbers from women themselves including the women here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 10:38 PM
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Every woman having fun as a young person is sooo bad, really? I'm sorry if you spent your time working and improving and nothing came out of it. Something came out of if that is why they are interested now when previously they were not. If you were not here when I was younger and struggling and were instead off having a good time why the hell should I give you the time of day? You made your choice deal with the consequences. You don't get to have fun when you are younger and then get bailed out …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 10:37 PM
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"Women are looking for husbands" Yeah when they are 30+ or have already had a kid or three with someone else. It makes you realize it is not a husband they want but a bailout after they have had their fun while you were busy working and improving.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 09:54 AM
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That would not result in the absurd numbers we are seeing or personal statements from women. Could that be a factor? Sure, but 14% is fucking absurd and the women here saying 5% or less are fucking insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 02:42 AM
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Loads of evidence says you are wrong here just just one study. “the bottom 80% of men (in terms of attractiveness) are competing for the bottom 22% of women and the top 78% of women are competing for the top 20% of men.” https://quillette.com/2019/03/12/attraction-inequality-and-the-dating-economy/ Even a dating app creator himself said women only swipe on 14% of profiles FOURTEEN PERCENT that is even worse than the 20%. For fucks sake 51% of men aged 18-29 are single right now vs 32% of women i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:05 AM
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The older I get the more I realize the majority of women are just overgrown children it is really just super super sad. It almost feels something akin to finding out your childhood hero is a rapist or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 08:37 PM
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That was the one that did it the most for me as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 08:30 PM
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no such forces exist to prevent men from becoming more attractive Most of what determines a mans attractiveness is genetics so yes their is basic forces like that preventing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:17 AM
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Most of being in that top 20% is what you were born with/genetics things such as wealth, height, facial structure so trying to compensate for that is extremely difficult. Hitting the gym for a couple years, dressing nice, getting a middle income job etc is still only going to add +2 to your score and unless you were already a 7 women are still going to think you are not good enough. The other problem is if men did this en mass then that top 20% would just become more and more competitive we know…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:15 AM
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Women are takers not earners when it comes to taxes and men have to subsidize them like crazy. Depending on how it is calculated the numbers I have seen show stuff like each woman costs like 170k more than they put in themselves to the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 11:35 PM
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Jesus...like, I know the women here seem to think that men will get some sort of cathartic release when women realize they're hitting the wall, but this is just sad. The sadder it is the happier it makes us. Hit that wall like a Nascar driver please.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 11:31 PM
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That is only part of it the other part is her still expecting you to treat it like a relationship and a one sided one at that without any reciprocation on her part not even a friend level reciprocation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 11:26 PM
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The women here do not believe their bodies are a commodity that can just be traded around to be “fair”. And the sweat of my brow aka what I made from working hard can be traded around? People are not pointing out the impracticality of differences but the philosophical double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 11:24 PM
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The video game shaming is more about women being mad because the guys they want won't give them any attention. You notice the whole "gamer girl" thing that is becoming popular among women because they want to attract the Chads who are into that. I remember when women did not even like the internet because they couldn't understand it and they did not see any value in it, but now that they have figured out a way for them to get attention and profit off of it, they love it. https://imgur.com/a/oIUU…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 05:59 PM
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https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2012/05/5338/ https://www.economist.com/christmas-specials/2017/12/19/the-link-between-polygamy-and-war https://news.ubc.ca/2012/01/23/monogamy-reduces-major-social-problems-of-polygamist-cultures/ https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201805/monogamy-and-violence#:~:text=Multiple%20research%20studies%20have%20revealed,%2C%20female%20partners%2C%20or%20reproduction. https://medium.economist.com/big-love-and-big-war-exploring-the-link-between-p…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 04:40 AM
2

It isn't even limited to dating I have had two different women friends who acted like my BFF to the point one said she was going to name her future kid after me, but 3 months later they stopped responding to calls and barely respond to texts when they found a new man to sucker. Women are just fucking crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 04:31 AM
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No I literally had a woman here tell me that a week or so ago. She said she and most women would rather poison their husband than give up being able to be poly with the top guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 05:34 AM
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that's not what all or even most women want though. emotional vulnerability is where it's at. and i don't think fds says anything about stoic men either? fds wants non-abusive men. The ones here say anytime a guy shows vulnerability it is them having to be his mommy and they hate it. :( not true but i will admit i have more bias towards women sure Most women do the research I have seen one study showed women have a five times stronger in group bias towards women than men have for other men. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 03:56 AM
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oh yes sorry it is hard for me to keep track of the hundreds of war crime level things feminists have done my bad!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 03:54 AM
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Sorry I don't feel like continuing to argue with someone who can't understand basic things like how the law works and that I have to explain to them twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 03:53 AM
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I am not familiar enough to say about the others so I can't state one way or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 01:44 AM
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Some chicks I wanted to fuck until they opened their mouth and revealed how terrible their personality was... As just one of my many examples I had one chick call the waiter the N word when he was out of earshot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 01:42 AM
2

And yet women would literally rather kill their equals than give up that Chad dick according to the women here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 01:37 AM
1

Do what women do, give them a taste of their own medicine, and let your silence and nonresponse speak for themselves and say what's intended, which is "no thank you, not interested". Unfortunately sending them something gross like tubgirl would get me banned from the app/site.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 01:32 AM
1

The average guy is doomed when a 3/10 if she is willing to sacrifice the height requirements can find a rich beta dude making a minimum of 2 times her income to leech off of.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 01:31 AM
5

A woman opened the first men’s shelter. And you know what happened? She got so many death threats from other women she had to flee the damn country.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 01:27 AM
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i think some people do like to take revenge and in that case it's important to be careful but i don't think women generally view vulnerability/weakness as a tool or less sacred than the other way around. Women want stoic providers that never show weakness the women here even admit it especially the FDS types. If I wanted to have to support someone well then you are a child my partner has to support me not the other way around! etc Women only care about themselves especially the ones on this subr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 09:48 PM
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Feminists fight us every step of the way and society supports them plus like I said in the other message no one wants to lose their job and wind up homeless. If society supports the evil bitches who protest male domestic violence shelters what chance do we have of society supporting us?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 09:46 PM
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that is true, but i think women are inclined to comforting and helping men they are fond of in their weak moments too The experience of me and most men here is that is the fastest way to get a woman to leave you. Anytime a woman asks you to show weakness it is either a giant shit test or them wanting material to hurt you with later. TRP rightfully points shit shit out and says to never show weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 08:47 PM
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Women don't care about men and men don't care about men. Women have a FIVE times greater in group bias for women than men have for men. Do you think feminism would have gotten off the ground if women didn't support it and men didn't support it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 08:45 PM
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Trying to talk about this shit in real life just gets you canceled so most guys are silent about it even if they believe in it. I am not about to lose my fucking job and wind up homeless because feminists are evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 08:44 PM
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Some guys are fucking them the sheiks or rich trust fund dudes who are paying for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 08:43 PM
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Even if you are not the top 1% yourself then you get pumped and dumped and complain about it winding up on FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 08:41 PM
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The number of single mothers on dating apps/sites says he does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 08:40 PM
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All the male 7's I know figured this out they got way more success in person with way better looking women for way less effort so they stopped bothering with online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 08:39 PM
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if you're looking for 5/10 fat bitches then great, you're in the right place with online dating. I think you are being generous with those numbers the majority of women I saw in online dating were either 3/10 ugly women, single mothers, or 30+ year olds with massive attitude problems or some combination of those three. All three of which had sky fucking high expectations on what they wanted in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 08:36 PM
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Bumble, Hinge, Match, Coffee Meets Bagel, etc., all have better ratios of women to men. For men, Tinder is like buying a lottery ticket, and waiting around to be informed of your winnings. The experience is the exact same though having to try and go through hundreds of women who are not interested only to find out the one you think is interested isn't actually interested. You wind up having to carry the conversation and she barely replies because she has 10 other conversations with 10 hotter or …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 08:34 PM
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Unfortunately one of the sad things you find out when you become an adult is their is no adult in the room just people fighting each other usually for control and whoever is in control makes the rules to their own benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 08:27 PM
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The reason I urge you to look to the definition, is because if you are speaking with someone who identifies with a label, and you check the definition, and it goes against just about everything they believe, that’s a fantastic indicator that they have no idea what they’re talking about and are poorly representing the intentions of that movement. But at a certain point when they make up the majority and are the ones making decisions doesn’t that just mean the definition is now wrong or at the ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 08:26 PM
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Being better just gets you stabbed in the face. Be the one who knocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 06:56 PM
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Ok, so the gist of your problem with feminism (from what I understand) seems to be with the term itself. I have spoken with many people who feel the same, and I think this is actually a very important discussion to be had. I’m very glad we’re having it. My problem isn’t necessarily with the term the way I would describe it is because of my experiences with feminism and the actions of feminism I look at someone willingly wearing the label as no different from someone wearing a symbol of hate such…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 07:35 AM
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Because years of turning the other cheek never worked for me and no actions on their part to help or hell even attention from people so I might as well get some vengeance and it will at least get people talking about the issues men face.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 05:33 AM
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except I assume you’re suggesting that it has gone past ideology and now borders on blind faith, Exactly! About the shovel ready jobs - I had honestly never heard of this, I’m not American, and it sounds awful. From the small amount of research I did on it it seems that the reality of the recession was ignored by those demanding 50% for female positions. I totally agree with the backlash on that (although I haven’t looked into it much to be fair, the only articles I read were very obviously opin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 05:31 AM
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Because your vetting doesn't work and your ideas are riddled with inconsistencies and man hating bordering on open abuse. This isn't even getting into all the issues with rampant narcissism which explains why the top overlapping sub for your subreddit used to be raised by narcists.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 02:46 AM
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‘Religious beliefs’.... hoping that is just super dramatic sarcastic hyperbole? Or is that serious? I look at the pay gap thing as religous dogma because feminists repeat it almost like they are saying a prayer despite it being repeatedly disproven. At this point it has become some slogan or statement of faith they utter similar to religious kooks saying lines from the bible. Run that by me one more time When the economy collapsed Obama tried to have a shovel ready jobs program which was called …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 02:41 AM
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And yet they somehow think the guys they want will tolerate it... you know the guys who every woman wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 01:12 AM
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And yet you choose to identify yourself with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 01:08 AM
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When a nation has starving people and another nation rich in resources refuses to help being ignored makes the other nation angry and hurt. When the nation that refuses to help attacks and has previously done horrible stuff to the starving nation their is going to be terrorism rising up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 12:40 AM
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maybe because there isn't a lot female specific that men don't also do and that harms men as a whole? If both genders do it why does only one side get called out with a specific term when they do? This is one of the things I first had an issue with feminism the massive amounts of what I considered to be double standards. again masculinity is not bad, men are awesome, there's a subset of gender norm machismo masculinity that is toxic Talked with you often enough that I know you are not hateful no…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 12:38 AM
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When you are being attacked by the group and no longer supported by them I am pretty sure that is a good example of being cast out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 11:00 PM
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I wouldn’t even say that feminism has entirely broken into the mainstream yet, But women can’t opt out of governance that belittles them. just not the internet forum ones like you - instead the ones that make laws and own the opinions of the population. When feminists can influence the government and have their religious beliefs such as the disproven wage gap repeated on television by prominent politicians including the president I am pretty sure it is mainstream. When feminists can influence th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 10:58 PM
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I don’t know any of these people. Their strain of feminism is highly popular. If the most popular strain of feminism is that why would you keep using the term to identify yourself? Are you not aware of any divides between feminists? Perhaps look into Dr Kathleen Stock who has raised the ire of many in the philosophy world for her way of being a feminist. The main schisms I know of are with examples like Erin Pizzey and Christina Hoff Sommers who have both been excommunicated from feminism for da…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 10:54 PM
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I know they are male issues what I am trying to get at is why is their only a term for the male stuff in this case toxic masculinity when their is no term for the woman equivalent which would be toxic femininity? The fact their is no term for the female equivalent and the fact feminists are using the male equivalent as a bludgeon to attack people to me shows it is a term being used by hateful people and should not exist. If we created a term for bad stereotypes of poor urban black culture and us…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 10:49 PM
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But you are in the same group as them thus you should be the one policing their behavior. You claimed How would you know if feminists were fighting against other feminists? but if you are sitting back and doing nothing you are not fighting it are you? Ignoring the you personal aspect why are other feminists that are a part of it not? If you are not, other feminists are not well then you as a group are not fighting it are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 10:45 PM
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I am not part of the women's march it isn't my job to hold them accountable that is feminists job.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 10:26 PM
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Not trying to be rude but to reiterate my point/question why does only one side get attacked for it and why is their only a special term for only one side when both sides do it? It is just a dog whistle and an excuse to attack men otherwise they would just use a neutral term or create one for women as well and actually use it towards women instead of remaining silent. I feel we are dancing around each other which is why I am asking the question directly again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 10:24 PM
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No but if it is gender based is that not the exact same thing that you would use the term toxic masculinity for if it was men doing it ? Why does only one side have a special term for something both sides do? Especially when we previously had terms for it which was stuff like gender roles and gender norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 10:08 PM
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I believed they wanted equality, but them actually not wanting that is why I stopped being a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 10:06 PM
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No, adults at war consider the possible outcomes of their moves, not just scream and pitch a tantrum demanding people (women in you case) pay attention. When a nation invades another nation the nation being invaded asks allies for help and the international community condemns the attacking nation. Is this not screaming and pitching a tantrum demanding people pay attention? Is resorting to guerilla terrorist tactics when occupied by an invading force not morally justified?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 10:03 PM
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what do women do that is harmful to everyone including ourselves? Examples such policing other womens behavior such as shaming someones ability to have kids or if they prefer to dress masculine instead of feminine. Did you hear Susie chose to go back to work instead of taking care of her kids? I mean hell look at how much women judge each other based on looks and how the other dresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 10:01 PM
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Hate is a natural reaction and helps remind me to stay on guard. Telling someone to forgive someone else when the other side has shown absolutely no signs or attempts towards penance and in fact continues their behavior is not workable. It would be like blaming one side and telling them their refusal to come to the peace talks table is the problem when the other side also refuses and is committing outright war crimes against the first party when they are busy at the peace talks table.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 09:59 PM
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Lol, that's a 6 year old child's argument, bravo. No that is pretty standard when you start a war don't be surprised when the other side fights back. I am not just going to lay down and let them beat on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 09:50 PM
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So why is their no such thing as toxic femininity being used as a term? It is just an excuse for them to attack men otherwise they would have the same term for that or used a different term for this. I mean hell we already had a term for this gender roles and norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 09:48 PM
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"all women/feminists are the same person" When basic fundamental feminist theory is against men such as patriarchy theory, prominent feminists are against men to the point of advocating genocide, the actions of feminists are against men to the point of protesting male victims of domestic violence and prominent influencers are making it so men can't be raped I know who I am going to believe when one feminist says they are against men and the other claims they are not against men. Kind of obvious …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 09:46 PM
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As for the 10% person, I believe they have a column in the guardian so people could ask them what they are thinking. That is just one example plenty of other prominent feminists have stated or done horrible things including rape, murder, and molestation and still been invited to give talks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 09:11 PM
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I don't really see the point to changing all it would accomplish is letting people into my life who will just hurt me again. The bitter pain keeps me going and lets me get some joy from hearing their sorrows whereas trying to let them back in just leads to yet more pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 09:10 PM
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Would you not like seeing a community of people who have repeatedly wronged and hurt you punished and hurt? It would be like having a camera following around the dude who murdered your parents when he is in prison and suffering you would delight in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 08:12 PM
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Considering most women already aren't man-hating shrews Could have fooled me. My experience with women is they either look at me as invisible or only want to use me like a beast of burden so why should I view them as human if they never viewed me as human? women turning the cheek to your hatred isn't going to stop you from being cruel either. I didn't start this they did. you'd hate women no matter what women do. No originally I believed in and wanted equality, but years and years of mistreatmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 08:04 PM
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The dude who founded canadas first male domestic violence shelter had feminist's protest it. The culling thing is one example I forget her name but she founded the first womens study program in the United States and in one of her books advocated for culling and reducing men to 10% of the population. Feminists like her are not attacked they are major leaders and invited to give talks at feminist events. If you don't want me to view you as the equivalent to the klan don't invite the equivalent of …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 08:02 PM
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Well they protested male domestic violence shelters with signs so maybe they should start doing that to the people who wanted to cull men to 10% of the population instead of inviting them to talks as speakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 06:49 PM
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As an example I was repeatedly insulted and told things like kill yourself anytime I brought up my problems. They also see men like me as invisible and at best only capable of being a beast of burden to them or a wallet not an actual human fucking being.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 06:48 PM
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Listening to our problems and giving sympathy would be a fucking start instead I got told stuff like to kill myself or personal insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 06:47 PM
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Because she at least had that option men don't even get that they just get fired.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 06:46 PM
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I might actually ever see them disagreeing about anything or going after each other? We would see schisms in the movement and splits etc for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 06:45 PM
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And? Turning the cheek doesn't work in the real world it just leads to you being victimized they won't stop until you hurt them back.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 06:44 PM
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They all support hating men and want women to be superior so I don't really care what minor differences they have they are all the same to me. Even the most liberal caring not a bitch feminist gives tacit approval and support to the most evil ones who would gladly cull men to 10% of the population just by their refusal to fight against them. Silence is violence and they are not just silent but support people like that thus? Fuck every last one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 09:09 AM
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I will paraphrase the kind of comment towards this that I got last time I brought up my plight "I don't care about you or your problems." Why the fuck should I care about women if they have never cared about me? If women don't give a shit about men and treat us as less than human why the hell should we view you as human? You should be cattle if you can't act like human beings or treat us like one. Plus in this scenario she at least was able to get something out of it a guy wouldn't have that opt…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 09:03 AM
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The comfort of a certain items such as headphones feels completely random where price has no effect on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:01 AM
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Because I don't think the vast majority of feminists actually want female supremacy. The problem with this is they think well I don't like Jews I don't want to have to live near them but then this allows those in charge of the movement to put them into camps and kill them. It is a feedback loop where one encourages the other to think worse thoughts and the other gives silent approval to heinous acts. That is why they are both guilty and deserve to be targeted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:08 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:01 AM
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An at home vasectomy would not be that hard to pull off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:01 AM
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Yes I am making a bad joke about how crazy women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:58 AM
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So that eliminates what? 1% of women? 5%? Who cares when you got the other 95% to work with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:08 AM
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they are gendered in that it happens more to women Domestic violence rates according to Erin Pizzey are equal. Rape numbers are the same as well once you adjust for how biased the reporting is (for example feminists made it so legally men could not be raped for a number of years which obviously screwed with the statistics). well whats your other alternative? complain on the internet? Yes people complain when their is something that upsets them no matter what it is. not even close! the economy sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:07 AM
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To an extent this is true and that factual even. Has how is feminism not anti men when they create hashtags like "male tears" or "men are trash" or "men are rapists". The same bitches talking about how they love male tears talk about why guys refuse to talk about the problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:05 AM
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rape murder domestic abuse catcalling etc Not gendered issues and in fact when it comes to domestic abuse women have massive advantages. become more attractive Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr just become attractive. Most of what makes a man attractive is genetics because the two biggest factors are face and height their is nothing you can realistically do about those things. Not like someone can go back in time to take growth hormones. Your comment is as dumb as when people tell poor people to bootstrap them…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:02 AM
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Haven’t read the book. What “shocking” research are you referring to, exactly? Basically between more women becoming indoctrinated with feminism and thus scoring boys lower (despite the same or better answers) and changes to the system such as doing away with boys prefered learning styles it means boys are being at best short changed by education. You also have examples where stuff like organization skills or showing the steps to get to the right answer being more important than the actual answe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 12:59 AM
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1) women generally have it worse when it comes to dating How so? 2) it is a problem that men have to fix themselves And how can we fix it when the problem is other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 12:43 AM
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Is there a noticeable difference between a genuine kind man (i.e. motivated by altruism, though there might be a breaking point) and a "nice guy" who only does good because he expects good results/rewards from good actions? That isn't what the argument is though the argument is why is he being punished for being a nice guy and why are the guys who are not nice being rewarded? What kind of fucked up system is that? They don't need to be rewarded but why are they being punished and why are the guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:54 PM
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Why not? If their is a problem that is demonstrably and obviously a problem shouldn't the people dealing with it be sympathized with?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:51 PM
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The first professor to start a womans studies program in the United States called for men to be culled to 10% of the population in one of her books so this should be a surprise to no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:45 PM
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lol fuck no they would find new things to bitch about look at manspreading what sort of navel gazing first world problems fuckery is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 10:18 PM
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-dual custody National organization for women. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/4hj57b/why_does_the_national_organization_for_women/ reddit comment talking about what happened. -attacks on education "fucking over" young boys and grown men Look up the work by Christina Hoff Sommers particularly the book The War Against Boys. She was a feminist who realized feminists were hurting men especially boys so she started research and what she found was shocking especially in regards to educ…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 10:15 PM
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I tried that once after the first month it got real old real fast. It felt like I was dating a child or dog not an actual adult person and constantly felt like I was a damn parent or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 10:05 PM
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Lets see they fought against dual custody laws, attacked education which fucked over young boys and has a ripple effect on grown men, fought against male victims of domestic violence both with the Duluth act and protesting male domestic violence victim shelters or those who advocated for them, influenced the FBI so men could not be raped legally.... I could keep going on. Feminists are as much for equality as the white power movement is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 10:00 PM
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Exactly they don't care about what they are actually saying they just want to insult men. The words do not matter it is just the emotion behind them of hating men which is why they don't argue with one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 09:57 PM
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We went thousands of years without modern medical care should we go back to that to?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 08:12 PM
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Well then start actually dating men and putting out. You know what put the horse industry out of business? The car industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 08:11 PM
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They will just ignore this and dance around each other like they do in other examples. As an example one will say mens standards are too high and another will claim men will fuck a ham sandwich but somehow the two of them never argue and are even sometimes the same fucking person saying those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 08:10 PM
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Because they want to control men and mens sexuality is just one aspect of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 08:08 PM
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That is why the red pills should enjoy the decline and make it hurt pump and dump them as hard as you can they deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 07:58 PM
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Exactly why the hell should I give you the next 40+ years and support you not just financially but in lots of other aspects as well when you would not even give me your 10 best? Why should I tolerate you when your value is at its low point when you ignored me when mine was low? Revenge stings doesn't it cunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 07:57 PM
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Date someone 20 years older or date someone when you yourself are 20 years old those are your two options otherwise why the fuck would men do it for you? Wait till 35? Go fuuuuuuck yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 07:48 PM
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Looks and wealth are by far the biggest two. To throw out example numbers a woman who makes 30k expects a guy to make 50k and a woman who is a 3 thinks she deserves a 9 and anything less is her having to settle. It is just hypergamy in action honestly where their opinion of themselves is so absurdly high and out of touch with reality mixed in with greed that they think they deserve a lot more than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 09:06 AM
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What about the other people in the same society who are poor and lived in mud houses with no education who are not joining? You are going to say well different people react differently in response to this I assume so I am going to answer it already the reason is because their are other factors such as whether or not they can get married for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 09:03 AM
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This is a little far fetched don't you think? Incels aren't going to rise up anytime soon. It was the historical norm that is one of the biggest reasons poly societies had so many problems. To be clear, you think the people being selfish in this scenario are the women and not the dudes who are "raping and murdering" because they couldn't figure out how to attract a woman? One is a direct thing the other is more of an indirect thing similar to how poverty causes crime even if that crime has no fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 09:01 AM
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I say this because it is rare guys I have interacted with have high standards but most women I know have them even when they themselves are not high at all. This is also replicated in basically every study I have read about the topic. This causes massive problems for a lot of people so I bring it up often.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 04:29 AM
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So you think tons of single men unable to find a wife are not enticed by the promise of virgins as a martyr for example? That is just one example we know throughout history lots of single men unable to find a wife especially under/unemployed men leads to all sorts of nastiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 04:24 AM
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I agree with you on that, but disagree with the rest literally every study I have ever seen as well as my own observations says women almost always have way higher standards than guys do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 03:08 AM
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How can heterosexual guys interact with women all their lives the way they do and still think that way? Because people do it all the time. Well I want a nice woman therefore I will be a nice guy wtf why isn't this attracting nice women? I want a high powered career man with lots of money so I will go to college and start working 50+ hours a week. WTF why isn't this working? The guy who is my bosses boss is banging his secretary instead of me this is bullshit! Men are just pigs. etc etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 03:05 AM
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Fuck that I would rather be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 03:02 AM
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Because women compete against one another and they don't want to lose. Most guys don't give a crap about high heels, but other women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 03:00 AM
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but i think both genders have people with unrealistic expectations. They do, but with men it is the minority and with women it is the vast majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 02:59 AM
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But currently there's no reason she can't have a "ho phase" through her 20s then settle when she gets older and have kids in her 30s if she wants. Either way, shes marrying a bottom 80% male, might as well enjoy nights out with the top 20% while you can. Sure their is the bottom 80% male drops out or tells her to go fuck herself because she refused to give him the best 10 years of her life so why the hell should he give her the rest of his life and most of his fucking paycheck and support? Fuck …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 02:58 AM
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Because otherwise the amounts of violence, war, insurection, rape, and men dropping out of society explodes. Do you want things to be like how they are in the middle east? I sure as hell do not. Well then we need to fight back against peoples selfish desires no you don't get to poison the metaphorical local water supply everyone shares just because your selfish desires/wanting to make a profit. It would also lead to better results for women less pump and dumps less abuse etc because a guy on her…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 02:56 AM
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We forced people to associate with each other before by desegregating things. Personally I don't think forced relationships are good, but what in the hell alternatives do we have if women refuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 02:53 AM
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Because when they refuse it creates massive downward pressure so the bottom half of guys either can't date or massively struggle. What happens is the top half of women are basically soft poly with the top 20% of guys which in effect removes 30% of women from the dating pool. The bottom 20% of women refuse to date because they can't get that top 20% of guys usually not even being able to be pumped and dumped. This means the guys in the middle or even slightly above it are all stuck dating the 20-…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 10:06 PM
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People have the free will to stab people but we still punish them when they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 10:01 PM
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What other option gets them to finally stop?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 06:15 PM
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but at the end of the day if they don’t have true affection or attraction for their looksmatch, is it even worth it? My personal thought is that can be manipulated the modern insane hypergamy isn't natural or historically normal in the modern era so we just need societal forces pressuring the other way. Unfortunately because women are selfish childish assholes they will fight it tooth and nail including to the death based on the comments I see here. Easier said than done, but honestly that’s whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 05:57 AM
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i'm so sorry to hear that, it's like nice people of both genders get taken advantage of. I came to a similar conclusion which says a lot about humanity. I did the same thing becoming guarded and selective about being friends with people and stopped dating entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 05:53 AM
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So we either do away with the egalitarianism or we tell women to stop being so damn hypergamous. I know I am being argumentative and kind of an ass but I think not being able to blame women is just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 01:08 AM
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OP just lacks the basic understanding of how women experience things. They don't want to go and take the man, they want the man to come and take them. Which causes all sorts of issues in relationships and especially in sex leading to sexual assault and rape. I really wish we would do away with that gender norm if for no other reason than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 11:13 PM
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I mean I just don't even bother with dating anymore, but if I was I wouldn't hit on women unless I already knew them somewhat which means they usually at least try to soften the blow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 11:10 PM
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Yep my mother married a manipulative alpha asshole who only cared about himself to the point of narcissistic personality disorder. I am almost certain he cheated on her as well based on certain interactions with one woman he was friends with. How he treated her is one of the big reasons I wanted to do the opposite and be nice to women and a good partner, but all that accomplished was me getting hurt and used instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 11:07 PM
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Would you think much of a talking parrot saying fuck you bitch? Of course not it is just a trained animal it isn't human who cares. That is how they view the majority of men not even human. A worm insulting you for stepping on it does not even register to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 11:03 PM
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Because I kept lowering my standards thinking well if I compromise on looks then they will treat me better and appreciate me right? Maybe the reason I am being treated badly is I am dating women hotter than me? I know I am kind of ugly but I am broad shouldered and 6'3 so if I just lower my standards to a 3/10 or 2/10 then they will be below my level or maybe at it depending on how much they like height. I was wrong I got treated badly either way. At least the single really hot woman I dated had…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 10:58 PM
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Which also plays into why so many guys don't try to improve going from a 3 to a 5 by hitting the gym for a couple years, dressing nicely, and having a decent job means your "match" is a fat, shitty job, bad personality 3/10 woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 10:48 PM
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They ran into the same issue the constant comment towards groups like the panthers was well I kind of agree with them but why are they so angry? I don't approve of that and I don't approve of the language they use either. Doesn't that sound familiar to what is happening now?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 10:46 PM
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Kind of pointless they don't care what your opinion is whereas you care because you were at the level of being interested in them. It is still the right avenue to pursue, but don't be surprised if it doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 10:44 PM
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Nonsense innocent men are getting arrested even when they are bleeding from the face even when her worst injury is a bruised knuckle because of the Duluth model. Why in the hell are you fighting this so hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 06:55 PM
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Yes it is one of the main points of the Duluth model is it says men are always the primary aggressor and that is why they are arrested even if they are the victim. How it attempts to punish that later is completely irrelevant. Even the feminist controlled wikipedia page talks about how bad it is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duluth_model
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 05:57 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 05:28 PM
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Here they say it doesn’t matter that much, IRL they say, “ew” to your fucking face. And then the people online say the problem is your confidence. NO FUCKING SHIT that sort of stuff shatters your confidence and women know that but don't care because they are evil cunts the FDS types even admit to doing that intentionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 05:22 PM
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America is completely fucked because of male stereotypes/the male gender role and feminists pushed the Duluth model which puts innocent male victims in jail. This combined with feminists fighting directly against male domestic violence shelters and those who tried to help men to the point of forcing them to leave the country (Erin Pizzey) is a good example of what a hateful evil group of people it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 05:18 PM
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Well I can’t blame women for just simply not being attracted to the average guy. Why not? It shows their is something deeply wrong with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 05:12 PM
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This shit is hilarious. Men just have too high of standards because of porn! The same women unironically: He has to be 6 feet tall, a giant cock, be rich, a face created by the gods, and and and and otherwise he is a low value male. Meanwhile men want her to have an okay personality and just don't want her to be fat and even that they somewhat tolerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 05:07 PM
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It’s nobody’s fault imo, but I wish women would just come out and admit en masses that the average woman isn’t attracted to the average man (no matter what reasonable level of “self improvement” he does). Don't these two statements contradict each other? We know who is the cause of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 04:57 PM
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FDS and radfems are craaaaaazy news at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 04:54 PM
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Think that might be a country difference then most boomer men I have dealt with in the US sucked at cooking in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 08:16 AM
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No normal person prefers porn to sex you are talking about extreme minorities. Plus most of them would not bother with porn if you women were actually willing to date them especially when they were younger but you were too busy making gaga eyes at the top 20% hoping they noticed you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 08:14 AM
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I know arguing with them is a waste of time but showing other people how stupid they and their arguments are can help enlighten those other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 08:08 AM
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When you are told to kill yourself, judged, insulted, blamed for them, or screamed at when you bring up your problems or ask for help can you blame us for refusing? This isn't even getting into how it is the second fastest way to have your partner lose interest in you (first being become poor/lose your job.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 08:02 AM
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Porn is putting the chicken before the egg/mixing up cause and effect if they could get laid they would not need porn. The conspiracy theory and youtube commentor weirdos are a minority. Can't fix a car that is what mechanics are for. Cooking I have had women I tried to date fuckup stuff like pasta it is literally boil the fucking water. The cooking skills are actually an improvement as well because back in the day men were not expected to cook.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 08:00 AM
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Or alternatively a rich guy if she can tolerate someone not tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 07:58 AM
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Again this logic just doesn't make sense given that there are about an equal amount of straight men and women in the world. All that lonely guy has to do is lower his standards (or improve himself). Their isn't an equal number their are more men than women pre age 45. Even without the problem of more men being born than women the problem is the bottom 20% of women dropped out because they know they can't date a 9 and given the choice between dating someone on their level and being alone they cho…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 04:41 AM
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That is a good way to describe it a CNA with 3 kids thinking her dating equal is a doctor and any man below that level is beneath her somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 04:32 AM
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When you look at it from a big picture perspective you have individual guys who want higher than their equal but not a ton of them, but on the other hand that describes the majority of women which causes widespread systematic problems. If women were less like this getting commitment would not be as hard, abusive guys would be less common, etc. An individual actor is not going to make more than a ripple, but thousands acting the same way will cause a tide to destroy things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 04:26 AM
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Problem circles back around to women though you even admit it. For every single guy I see expecting a 7 I see 50 women expecting a 7. Are some guys like that? Yes, but most women are that way which is what causes most of the problems in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 12:48 AM
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Because even 3/10 women think they deserve a 9/10 and women who are 2/10 usually refuse to date because they know they can't get that 9/10. The ones who will date you still think they are above you subconsciously and because of that they will treat you like crap. The bad treatment, them using me, and either cheating or breaking up with me to go back to dating abusive but better looking guys is why I stopped dating. If all I am going to get is mistreatment why the fuck would I date? That is why I…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 12:45 AM
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If you go to a restaurant and then don't order the food because you had a bad experience or don't like that kind of food don't be surprised when the manager kicks you out for not buying anything. Restaurants don't exist for you to hang out at you have to give them something in return and if it isn't as good as money (sex) you better be in the back washing dishes or something to earn your keep.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 12:36 AM
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Maybe it’s not the world after all. Maybe it’s you. Isn't it kind of obvious ugly guys are only going to be used by the few women they are friends with? Or is this you trying to blame them for being used? This isn't even getting into what happens when it also happens to other guys then is it really just you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 12:29 AM
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sense of humor, charisma, character, Those fall under personality and are one of the three things men look for which are looks, personality, and not old.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 10:05 PM
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Is this a joke? The statement of outrunning the slowest human means the bottom people but 99.9% means you have to run faster than 99.9% of all the other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 10:04 PM
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It sounds like you think extreme wealth and high status are things that grow on trees lol as if any desk jockey dude could do this? The number I saw a woman here suggest for every inch below 6 feet you need to make 40k above the median household income for your city by yourself. As an example of how absurd that statement is I grew up with less than 40k a year adjusted for inflation as my families income. Women are just fucking delusional when it comes to their entitlement and what sort of wealth…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 10:03 PM
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Guy studying by himself quietly at the library near your group? Creepy! Apparently us ugly people can't be out in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 08:22 PM
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No point to dressing up if you are ugly it is just lipstick on a pig.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 01:52 AM
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Top post sums up how silly the FDS argument is. They don't understand that 1/2 times 1/2 times 1/2 does not equal 1/2, it equals 1/8. They're already down to 12.5% of the population with these criteria before they even get to how good looking the guy is. Plus they rate 80% of men below average attractiveness. So that brings the 12.5% of men who are 6/6/6 who are above average in looks down to 2.5%. They want the top 2.5% of men and they think he is average.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 06:39 PM
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Purely physically the biggest thing is unattractive face. Most of the other things I can usually tolerate or am okay with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 06:56 AM
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Not a post it is what has happened to two guys I knew.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 06:43 AM
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And the usual reaction is just calling them autistic for doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 05:13 AM
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I do think that is a factor but I have also seen where it is just plain abusive controlling behavior. As an example they were fine with them watching netflix or TV, but if it involved their friends they were against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 05:10 AM
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The number of men is caused by women though where the bottom 20% of women refuse to date because they know they can't get Chad and the top 50% (or 78%) according to the study are all trying to compete for Chad. Just look around, 85% of men aren't all single. 51% of men aged 18-29 are single. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ What happens with the other 30% that is not single is they are being settled for usually for beta bucks or other utility re…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 02:58 AM
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Are people refusing "service" to you because of your race? If not, the fact you brought race into this is irrelevant. Also, literally a quick search and you can find out that a private business can refuse service to someone. Ever seen the sign "we reserve the right to refuse service"? It's the law, are you trying to deliberately weasel around it or are you ignorant of the law? You don't actually know what the law means. Whether you post a sign or not, businesses never have the right to refuse or…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 02:53 AM
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More than 20% of meals are good enough for us. No those are around the numbers that keep popping up. The women here when asked state between 5-15% is good enough and we know from online dating women only swipe on 14% of men which is just horrendous. We also know the GINI of dating is worse than over 90% of the worlds countries with insane numbers like these “the bottom 80% of men (in terms of attractiveness) are competing for the bottom 22% of women and the top 78% of women are competing for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 02:15 AM
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I just think it is nuts that suddenly oatmeal isn't good enough when previously women were happy enough with it. It is kind of insane to change your preferences where only 20% of meals are good enough for you and a sign you are a spoiled asshole. Now no one is expecting you to eat rotting food, but when only 20% is good enough something is deeply wrong with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 12:44 AM
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Yes, yes you can move your business to another person, and it's not illegal to refuse service to someone, because it's a business' right if it is a privately owned business to refuse anybody. No you can't refuse service because of someones race the supreme court has ruled on that. Just because something is a privately owned business doesn't mean you get to decide you can discriminate against customers if it is a public business. I can't tell if you are just ignorant of history and the law or if …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 10:21 PM
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If you are happy and think it is steak why does the fact it is oatmeal matter? You think the current alternative where they are unhappy they can't have steak because their is only so many top 20% guys to go around is better?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 10:07 PM
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Hilarious feminists are utterly delusional if it isn't a top 20% guy it is rape it doesn't matter that I love him or consented women only deserve that top 20%. I can't believe you actually think it is patriarchy and rape if you can't get fucked by a Chad holy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 10:06 PM
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I am so grateful I am over 6’... it’s done way more for me than any amount of gym time or personality factors. If I was not 6'3 given my ugly looks and being a nerd their is zero chance I would not be a virgin. My personality only helps me once I am in the door but being a tall guy is the only reason my ugly self got in the damn door in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:33 PM
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The two kinds of Chads I know are the small minority who got married young and blissfully ignorant and the other vast majority are some of the biggest almost black level misogynists. It it hard to have respect for woman when you have constant examples such as bang a married woman at least once a month despite not seeking them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:29 PM
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Modern thought on crime is showing empathy and understanding we are shaped by our environment. We still punish, but we know we are also responsible as a society and have to do more to prevent future criminals such as working on decreasing poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:21 PM
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If someone thinks it is steak instead of oatmeal does it matter to the oatmeal? Does it matter to the person? Ignorance is bliss and people are easy to manipulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:15 PM
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Not really arguing in good faith then are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:10 PM
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One of the worst parts of the red pill is gradually losing the happy blue pill illusions you believed in because of the lies society told you about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 08:46 AM
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Maybe I just grew up in a different area that was more blue collar where the young men were the ones desperate for a partner to marry. yeah this sounds great though :D what i want Working together with someone to succeed and feeling like someone is rooting for you makes way more of a difference than people think because they underestimate support structures.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 07:07 AM
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I am not sure what this comment has to do with the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 06:01 AM
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While that is true telling someone to eat 1200-1500 calories because their BMR is broken is not very realistic especially in modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:57 AM
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I would be a bit upset, but then I'd move my business elsewhere, their loss but I can't force them, it's their business. That... that was the entire point of why we had the desegregation movement because that line of thinking does not work. You can't take your business elsewhere and even if you could it is not morally right which is why we made it illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:55 AM
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Unfortunately going to take more than one clue by four to knock any sense into women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:53 AM
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Did you just not read what the just world hypothesis is? You have tons of evidence showing why that line of thinking does not work. Are you being intentionally difficult or what in the hell is going on here?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:52 AM
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But you think a woman making 100k deserves more then 100k which is what you were implying earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:51 AM
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Wow nice to see evidence young women really are poly with the top guys and the bottom half of guys are completely and utterly fucked when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 04:31 AM
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Out of the millennials I know less than 10% have kids. It isn't just because of women causing issues though a lot of it is just due to the economy where the two options you have are be low income and unable to afford kids or high income and not have the time or energy to have kids because they have to work so much and had to work so hard to get to where they are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 04:28 AM
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Almost like they are replicating exactly how lonely men are treated when they dare to mention it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 04:23 AM
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Then how do you explain studies showing fat people who lose weight having such terrible base metabolic rates that they need a lot less calories than someone at the same height, muscle, and weight they are now at?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 04:20 AM
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Are you actually surprised? They keep making arguments about well it is natural that women are selective that is why we have survived etc but when you point out that is basically eugenics they get really angry. Trying to argue morals with them is unfortunately a waste of time they only care about themselves and will rationalize whatever they feel to be right no matter what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 04:18 AM
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Normal people are normal people weirdos are nerds who spend entirely too much time online with weird hobbies and interests that also tend to go against the mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 04:13 AM
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Why would you want to be with a woman who doesn't want you AND you think is crazy? Because then she would not be crazy. but every woman is different and attraction or lack thereof isn't something you can control Yes it is desire, attraction, and what people want can easily be shaped we know this from religion, marketing, and propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 04:12 AM
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And if you can't handle being alone without becoming violent than I don't want to be around you. Seriously, why would we want to date our "equals" if our equals are psychopaths?! The same thing would happen to women! This isn't a gendered thing isolation and things of that nature are how we break people mentally and turn them into monsters we know this from multiple angles and scientific studies as well as research into things like serial killers. The only difference is society and people actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 04:10 AM
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Oh right forgot all you people believe in the just world fallacy where anytime something bad happens to someone it is obviously because they deserve it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 04:03 AM
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People are shaped by society it is easy to say you would not do X Y or Z if you are coming from a position of privilege and have not had to suffer or deal with what that person did. How do I know I would never steal to feed my drug habit if I have never had a drug habit?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 04:02 AM
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It really bothers me why should the winner you completely ignored because you were busy on the cock carousel now give you the time of day and support your ass especially when your value is dramatically less than it was back then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 04:01 AM
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So you would not be upset if a cookie seller refused to sell to you or tried to charge you a higher price? Kind of sure we had a bitter civil rights movement over that sort of segregation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 03:59 AM
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Where are all the good men? Whining exploding which we are already seeing. Invest in fancy pet food companies people it is only going to go up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 01:02 AM
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The solution is pretty obvious stop giving it away for free and marry younger not wait until you are 30+ with drastically less to offer. That is one of the big problems with FDS they wait at the finish line trying to sucker the winner into marrying their loser ass instead of helping build a guy up and becoming winners together.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 11:46 PM
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There top overlapping sub used to be raised by narcissists and you can really tell that behavior rubbed off on them or they inherited it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 11:33 PM
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lol leave it to a women to get called out on being a hypocrite and be angry about it instead of admitting it or changing her opinion. FEELS BEFORE REALLSSSSSSS
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 11:32 PM
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Why do you guys care if they have preferences they'll never be able to attain, when you're not interested in dating them to begin with? Because these low tier women were historically the ones who dated low tier men and their complete refusal to do so anymore means everyone has to suffer. As an example not only does it cause inc-els it means their are way more men than women in the dating market which allows even non low tier women to raise their standards even higher. This also allows the top gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 11:30 PM
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No because women would be upset and claim it is sexist and companies want to keep them happy hence why bumble came into existence. The dating market is dictated by women and not men bumble is just one example.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 11:26 PM
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So you are just fine being a hypocrite and that their are double standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 11:24 PM
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Well those are your options because why should men follow the rules and not engage in selfishness when you only care about yourself and refuse to follow the rules? You don't get special privileges sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 11:24 PM
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You don't get it WHY is one gender allowed their own space when the other is not? You have never actually answered that. Either both sides are allowed it or neither is allowed it!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 11:20 PM
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If he is making 150k why doesn't he deserve a woman making 150k? Why does one partner get to have higher standards and want more than what they are/make in this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 11:19 PM
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Zero chance that is true it is like the guy who claimed to have a hot girlfriend from Canada.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 10:05 PM
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With piracy most other entertainment is free especially media such as television and movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:54 PM
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But it is your choice in who you date if you dated within your level then it would not happen anywhere near as much. What I am saying is if you are a 3 you are going to attract toxic males who are a 5 or 6 that you tolerate because they are hot, but if you dated a 3 they would not be toxic. Unfortunately women refuse to do that and then complain they get hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:53 PM
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Trust me they will never apologize humanity is a scourge and plague upon the land. Trying to improve humanity is pointless if you improve a disease it will only spread further or do worse things to its host it will not stop being a disease.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:51 PM
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Oh yes it is all mens fault I forgot I was arguing with another radfem poster. Your argument is completely nonsensical and stupid in one sentence you talk about them working their asses off and having money which was caused by women not being allowed to work mens jobs thus they were "given" these wives by societies rules. You can't turn around and remove this rule and then say well this is somehow your fault men! The porn and video games is the end result of being unable to get women not the cau…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:49 PM
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It wasn't mixed in America. I can't believe you are calling one organization petty for the very fucking thing you do which is have a club based on gender you are being a complete hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:40 PM
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That only happens because they are hypergamous if they were not that then it would work fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:39 PM
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This post sums up why nerds seek revenge or are morally okay with building weapons of war. When society condemns you to death for things out of your control is it not right to seek vengeance upon that society?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:36 PM
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Porn isn't the cause. It's the placebo. Chicken and the egg or cause and effect. Guys look at porn because womens standards are insane not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:31 PM
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One is slamming their hand in a car door but tolerates it while complaining because he is hot. The other is getting sucker punched and knocked out while walking along the street. The obvious difference is one is an active agent and making decisions the other is just trying to live their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:27 PM
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They were "given" wives to prevent that from happening. If women refuse to follow the social contract why should guys follow other social contracts? If the person you are supposed to pair up with is a solipsist that does whatever they want why would you follow the rules and social contract?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:26 PM
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The difference is women brought it on themselves by their choices. Men don't get choices they just get fucked by society and fucked by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:16 PM
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How in the hell is this a CMV post this is literally just her rambling trying to bash men as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 08:48 PM
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Wait let me get this straight being hurt by society means you can't react to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 08:47 PM
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Lets see a recent big example your kind literally invaded the fucking boy scouts. THE BOY SCOUTS! For crying out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 08:44 PM
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Has anyone actually changed their mind due to a debate or discussion thread here? Like some people have been here for YEARS. Yeah I gained an even lower opinion of women that was already in the dumpster. I didn't think women were this bad but browsing here and occasionally glancing at the other subreddits they post in such as FDS are a good reminder of why I stopped dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 08:41 PM
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lmao god damn if that is required no guy is going to bother that guy is fucking jacked. That much work requires an entire lifestyle at which point the guy is going to refuse to date normal women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 08:39 PM
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I managed to pull a Stacey once it was not worth the effort sure she was hot and could work a room but dealing with her sucked. I would much rather date a normal girl 4/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 08:32 PM
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Most men want to invade our spaces and call us misandrist/entitled because we set the standard high for ourselves and for others. Because your kind repeatedly does the same thing for male spaces so yours being able to exist especially with how bad it is is a massive double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 08:25 PM
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First couple years of a sites existence only works because weirdos show up who put in a lot of time and effort but eventually normal people show up and demand the site cater to their needs and the owners cave because of money. This causes the weirdos to leave to some new site where the process repeats itself over and over again, but the problem is new sites are not being founded because of sites having near monopolies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 08:23 PM
0

Kind of surprised it doesn't generate more serial killers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 08:20 PM
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An example would be a man who wants to spend a chunk of his free time doing his hobby or with his friends instead of it with her, and they seem to get mad about that. Which is a red flag in my book, and causes them to sound more like a bunch of entitled teenage girls. No it is more like classic abusive partner behavior. They don't like their partner having fun and it takes away their control when a guy has friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 08:17 PM
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And yet we still keep getting comments from women saying well you just don't know women followed by some personal insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 08:07 PM
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Their is tons of other evidence pointing to that but that is another piece of evidence yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 08:03 PM
1

The entire point is that it is not equal why would a guy making 150k+ date a woman making 100k?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 08:02 PM
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Because if you were not crazy you would desire your equal. I am saying their is something wrong with women mentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:59 PM
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Well if women would literally rather be alone than date her equal you know what is going to happen? Massive increases in violence, rape, war, insurrection, etc. That was why we went to monogamy instead of poly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:58 PM
1

Easy go to analogy if someone is visiting you set out snacks such as cookies or when you hit up a place with a free sample etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:35 AM
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A woman having a career is a bonus. It just means more money, nothing special. I question even that it just brings new higher standards for her expectations that the guy has to somehow do for her. A woman making 100k is not going to date a guy making 100k she thinks she deserves the 150k+ dollar dude with the lifestyle to go with it. Women are massive consumers and have inflated lifestyle expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:46 AM
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Because thats the best they could do. Or because they sacrificed traits such as him being a bum or alcoholic in exchange for him being hotter than she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:43 AM
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The amount of 6'2", fit, rich/wealthy, perfect balance of alpha/beta, willing to commit to plain Janes at best are in astronomical scarcity. I don't get it what they want is incredibly rare and they don't need to date plain janes. They especially do not want plain janes with as toxic as possible personalities who expect them to somehow both take the back seat to them but also be alpha in the rest of their lives and alpha to her but ONLY when she wants it like a mind reader. According to this USA…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:39 AM
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For men it pretty much is because their is no equivalent of a nice dress or similar things for men those that do exist are usually really uncomfortable or warm which is annoying due to men already running hotter than women. I might be biased though because I loathe uncomfortable clothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 03:06 AM
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My observation is 7 is usually not good enough to long term date an actual 7 woman best case scenario you can date a 5 or maybe even a 6 if you have a good paying job. The basic problem is it is not a linear increase it is this huge exponential growth once you hit 8+ where things start exploding, but going from 3 to 5 or 4 to 6 is not going to make much of a difference for most guys because of womens insane hypergamy. The entire situation is frankly absurd and bothers me why isn't it a linear in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 03:02 AM
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Casual sex doesn't interest me that much and even if it did it would not be worth sacrificing the other upsides that come from a relationship such as companionship for it. The tradeoffs are not worth it in the slightest to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 02:55 AM
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The things we tolerate because the alternate of loneliness is so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 02:52 AM
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It isn't worth the effort for bottom level guys at best after 3 years in the gym it will mean they now qualify to date women who are fat or below average looking all because the guy is 5'6 or has a bad face. Would you put in 3 years of effort to date someone beneath you because you are so hindered by stuff that you can't change such as height? If you are on the border and a 6 already then hell yes hit the gym get those gains, but for a below average guy it is not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 02:51 AM
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Normally it would be a red flag do not date them but I guess beggars can't be choosers. My issue is it usually means they are not as smart and I would have to hold my tongue when they talk about something stupid like crystal healing. Hippy girls are cute, but fuck dealing with that it is awful if they are super into it. If she has enough other upsides I would tolerate dealing with it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 02:48 AM
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It isn't a psychological problem if it is effecting this many people it is a societal problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 10:28 PM
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When I become the man women are attracted to, I will never feel guilty for my actions. Ever. That is why I keep telling red pill guys to enjoy the decline and make it hurt women deserve every ounce of pain they get from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 09:35 PM
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If you spent all your life being treated badly and no one caring about you would you care about yourself? Would you improve if someone cared about you briefly?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 09:33 PM
1

Why don't you move to some place like Denmark that is even more "progressive"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 09:30 PM
1

Seen a couple studies saying people who lose weight have a lower caloric requirement than a normal person at the same weight. For example if they are a certain height and weight the normal person needs 2100 but the formerly fat person needs 1700. Still not sure how the hell the science works on that because it makes no sense calories in is calories out but that is what the studies said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 09:25 PM
1

Mustard or hot sauce helps a lot with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 09:22 PM
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Other people are having problems? Sucks to be them! Jee I wonder why they are angry at you. This is just pure solipsism manifested.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 09:20 PM
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Nope the only reason the old way worked was because of the system which your kind did away with so not we are left with the current feces pile.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 09:17 PM
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Getting hit on, harassment, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 09:17 PM
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They can't, but they can understand that being good looking is also going to come with downsides such as people not leaving you alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 09:32 AM
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Sounds to me like a personal problem then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 06:39 AM
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If things were better for men, better for society, and arguably better for women given how much better happiness rates were then it is better now isn't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 06:37 AM
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Kind of proving the point that the old ways were better then aren't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 05:56 AM
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They act like not having sex for a year is the biggest deal. Ever. Women did the same thing during coronavirus which shows their is no difference between the genders in regards to that only in that it is dramatically easier for women to get a relationship or get laid than it is for men. The amount of complaining is the same their is just a whole lot more men struggling like hell and if women are in the same circumstances would complain just as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 05:54 AM
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Sure you can don't continually disappoint and somehow manage to fail even basic standards. To use a humorous analogy the standard is don't burn the house down while I am out running errands but right now women do that then roll in the ashes mixed with their own feces while screaming about how it is all mens fault then when I get back they kick me in the damn dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 05:48 AM
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Time and women improving instead of continuing to lower my already low opinion of them by their actions and my interactions with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 04:58 AM
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Let me reangle this do you think you would have gotten more or less attention if you did wear low cut tops or something else that showed off your looks? Obviously you would get more that is what we are saying. The fact you still got some when dressed normally is not what we are trying to argue about we are saying you get less comparatively if you do what you are doing so do that which your response is to get angry about which we do not understand because we are just trying to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 01:43 AM
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Sexless men, MRAs, disenfranchised men etc don’t want women to sympathize, they want women to fuck them and completely bend to their will. No we just want basic sympathy and for women to acknowledge their crimes instead of being told kill yourself or insulted like I was whenever I brought up any of the problems I had as a man not just dating. This discussion has been had several times over and women who sympathize and have pity for those type of men get berated and run off, because at the end of…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 01:40 AM
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I would agree with all that my only thing I would add is women don't get to complain when guys take in the visual experience (not how you used it I know just borrowing the phrase) or do stuff like hit on her etc. They also need to be understanding how annoying it is to constantly have it shoved in your face then denied similar to how people on diets would feel about the constant food ads on TV. edit: I think one thing both sides need is more understanding and sympathy since that seems to be a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 01:33 AM
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Men need to open about their problems and get in the skin of women specially in the bed issues. Women don't care in fact they hate men who speak truths about dating, society doesn't care, other guys barely care because they are competition. I don't see anything changing unfortunately because women refuse to lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 01:30 AM
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I can’t put my boobs in my pocket, though. No but you can do things like not wearing super low cut tops for example. I hope you never have a female partner who looks to you for protection from men who think just how you do. I gave up on women they no longer deserve the protection I previously gave them. Women and children first hell no fuck that bitch I am shoving her off the deck of the ship and hopping in the lifeboat myself. If women wanted to be treated like they deserved special treatment t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 01:24 AM
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Why are you striking back? You can't do that when I hit you!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 01:17 AM
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But in this case, its the "salter" who decieves. IMO, its nothing to be proud of. Getting revenge is not that bad of a source of pride in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 01:16 AM
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Because X problem exists elsewhere we need to accept the same problem here doesn't matter? Is that honestly your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 01:13 AM
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Are you just being dense or something? We are giving basic solutions that will help and you refuse to acknowledge them because all you want to do is complain. I swear to god I am in the it's not about the nail skit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4EDhdAHrOg
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 01:12 AM
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Statistically speaking guys in solid sexual relationships work harder, obey the rules and are generally happier all around. Yup which is why we pushed monogamy instead of poly so hard guys who are married rarely try and burn society and its people alive, but women don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 01:08 AM
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My experience watching women I know has been different but if it didn't work for you it didn't work for you. I do think it also circles around and bring us to the awkward question about why guys are so desperate and needing to steal that nobody wants to talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 01:00 AM
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Would a woman actually stand up and press charges for a sugar daddy not paying. Most won't but it only takes one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 12:58 AM
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It really is life on fucking easy mode when it comes to anything in the social realm. At first I thought it was just the hot good looking women, but when even 3/10 women experience it I realized it was all women. That is why guys have to develop a work ethic or personality because that is the only way you are getting anything in life you don't get a free ride like women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 12:57 AM
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No but I am saying she shouldn't be surprised when some guys do that and she doesn't get to bitch when say guys stare at her chests or hit on her. Is it bad someone stole your wallet? Sure, but you left it on the ground in the middle of the ghetto what did you think was going to happen? Keep it in your pocket and the chances of it being stolen drop dramatically. The same goes for the way you dress if you want less chances of dealing with bullshit don't dress like a street walker. You also don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 12:55 AM
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Personally I think it is a fast way to catch a rape charge and not worth the potential drama/hassle compared to just paying for a normal hooker. 500 bucks versus potential 15000+ bucks in lawyer fees.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 12:49 AM
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i mean they could get into my car either way but no one is going to defend them for entering into my fucking car, you know. We aren't defending them like you keep thinking. What we are saying you have some responsibility too and their are ways you can protect yourself. You are complaining about something and while we may not be able to magically remove the issue we can provide solutions that help.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 12:47 AM
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Again you women don't get it you are going to get these comments either way, but you can dramatically lessen the chances of it by not dressing like a street walker. It is no different from locking your car doors when you drive into a bad neighborhood it is nothing more than taking basic precautions. Could you still get carjacked? Sure, but the chances are a lot lower so why not just press the button to lock the doors?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 12:13 AM
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Assuming it is a wife/long term girlfriend situation and she treated me right it would help and I would be less angry, but years of abuse don't get erased over night no matter how nicely she treats me. No matter what she does or how she is to me it doesn't make up for the years of mistreatment I dealt with, but it will make me a bit less angry and bitter. If it was just sex though it wouldn't make a difference if it was just that I could just go get a hooker.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 12:11 AM
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Sugar dating without paying for it just getting them to fuck you and then disappearing. Nice way to get revenge against women I guess if you are that hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 12:07 AM
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So your answer is she should be up for grabs by all men because she deserves to “pay a price” for being hot?? And should she still be held responsible for men molesting her because they can’t resist “grabbing the cookie”? No but she is going to have to deal with it surprise great power comes with great downsides. Heavy is the head that wears the crown. Would you rather be completely invisible like most men are? Would you rather get treated like shit because you are ugly? What? I asked about dres…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 12:02 AM
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That is what I did with women friends and that was the result.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 11:57 PM
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but it isn't challenge my view when she keeps reiterating the same stuff over and over again despite repeatedly been shown wrong with ample evidence it is just her preaching. Look at the example with her refusing to believe women like bad boys, assholes, and dark triad stuff despite stacks and stacks of evidence showing she is wrong and she keeps bringing it up. It would be one thing if it was just the occasional thing, but she is the number one problem poster on this subreddit for stuff like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 11:55 PM
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And yet the blue pills will say that isn't true despite it being women saying these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 11:46 PM
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Okay let me change it then wearing shorts is fine people are not going to judge you for that, but wearing shorts so damn short I can see part of your ass cheek hanging out is asking for problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 11:42 PM
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Again not the point the point is you are also responsible for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 11:41 PM
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What about women that have a body shape that people consider to look “provocative” no matter what she wears? Should she just be up for grabs any time she leaves the house? That is the price you pay for the other benefits you get from the halo effect. I am not saying they should be harassed but I am saying it is going to happen unfortunately. What if someone is dressing up for her partner? Is she not allowed to go out on a nice date without getting molested and blamed for it because she looked ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 11:40 PM
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I think you have some serious hatred for women, that’s all. I wonder why? Years of horrible experiences with women and when I talk about them women like you blame me or say wait your turn it is my turn to talk about my problems and NEVER let me talk about mine or say I am not doing your emotional labor or just openly insult me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 11:38 PM
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Would you not be angry if someone talked about n words robbing honest white people and you were a black person sick of getting hassled and attacked by the cops just for living their daily life? Because that is what is happening with ugly guys. We know what the people with the power to hurt people do to people like us even if we do nothing. Until you fix that I don't care about your problem and say you should have no power to go after other people because you keep fucking abusing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 11:35 PM
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Chad doesn't give a fuck what the guys he is friends with look like especially if he is useful such as fixing his laptop or helping him with homework.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 11:32 PM
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The waitress didn’t want to get stiffed on a tip or worse fired for insulting a customer. Probably the only reason your friend didn’t get sucker punched. Yes that is exactly why she gave him her number LIKE I SAID and they later hooked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 11:23 PM
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Those actions are bad no matter if a man or a woman of any level of hotness does it. They are only bad because of the consent issue, but the consent is only an issue because of the guys hotness/how attracted to him you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 11:19 PM
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When I leave my wallet laying on the ground in a bad neighborhood yeah it is partially my fault for leaving it on the ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 11:16 PM
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Like Chappelle said don't be surprised if someone treats you like a cop when you dress like one. Is every guy going to hit on you or harass you or grab your ass? No but some will which is why you don't dress provocatively. Are some guys going to still do it? Sure, but it is like locking your doors in a bad neighborhood or or having a throw away extra wallet for if you get mugged it drastically lowers your chances of having issues and if you do it will be not as bad. The basic big problem is lite…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 11:14 PM
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It is consent for flirting, being hit on, guys staring, etc the problem is women are angry it is guys not attractive enough doing it not that they are doing it. I figured this out when one of my really attractive friends could grab a waitresses ass and get her number and if I did that I would be in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 11:09 PM
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My personal conspiracy theory is she is a sock puppet they use to try and provoke people as an excuse to ban them so they can do it without looking bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 10:33 PM
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Because consent to get into a relationship is the same as consent to be divorce raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 10:32 PM
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Do you think how someone dresses justifies another person’s physical action toward them? Dave Chappelle has the best answer for this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7QNw1LRJv4 In addition to that it is only harassments because the guy is ugly if he was hot she would be receptive you are literally angry guys won't stay in their lane despite you telling them to leave that lane. Now I am not going to touch women and I know enough to stay in my lane, but I can't blame guys who don't and I think it …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 10:30 PM
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Women don't want to be harassed by anyone. They do they just don't consider it harassment when it is a hot guy. The entire problem is women want beta males to stay in their fucking lane but they can't say that out loud because of saving face and because it goes against the ideas of equality under a secular liberal society. https://imgur.com/a/f7bL19T
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 10:27 PM
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I am sorry but when women wear form hugging stuff like yoga pants instead of sweatpants while claiming it is because of comfort that is bullshit. They dress that way for attention and then complain they get that attention from someone besides the top guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 10:22 PM
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I mean they kind of have a point when you intentionally dress to provoke guys into looking then get mad when they look it is bullshit. It would be like a guy stuffing some socks into his pants then complaining women look at his giant bulge. Of course this only happens because they are dressing up for the rare man they are attracted to and are angry the unattractive guys are interested because he didn't follow steps 1 and 2 step 1. be attractive step 2. don't be unattractive. You don't get to off…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 09:52 PM
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I don't understand the double standards with mod enforcement where other people who make similarly leading threads or are just there to preach get the thread deleted. It honestly makes me wonder if she is a mods alt account or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 09:45 PM
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Yep you managed to escape too bad for the remaining women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 09:39 PM
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If they wanted to be individuals they would not act the way they do. Mens desires standards and basic human level shit is rarely respected so why should they respect others? If those around you are completely solipsists then you have to adapt that mindset as well. Enjoy the decline I say.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 09:19 PM
1

I don't even drink because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 09:11 PM
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Kind of what the redpill does which you women also complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 09:09 PM
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I figured this one out 10 years or so ago when even the women nerds in my major/similar majors usually refused to date other nerds and dated whatever hot guy they could find even if he was dumb enough to struggle with basic literacy. Women who would compete with me to set the curve and they are dating a dude who has to sound out basic words while majoring in something like communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 09:08 PM
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She has no skill at debating and will just ignore you if you post something proving her wrong or pointing out her mistake and will just go find someone else to argue with. I have never once seen her change her thoughts on ANYTHING no matter how much evidence someone provides. It gets fucking boring arguing with her she keeps making the same arguments over and over again and ignoring the counterpoints it is like she just wants to hear herself speak because of her absurd narcissism which also expl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 09:05 PM
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I don't get how someone can be this intellectually dishonest Welcome to arguing with most of the women here on PPD unfortunately. Then they wonder why we are angry or call them out on it making the place toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 08:59 PM
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They don't hearing them whine about it due to coronavirus is fucking hillarious. Oh booooohoooo I have not been able to find a new boyfriend for six months or gotten laid. I personally realized this when most of the 3/10 women I knew had beta orbiters and one example I briefly dated would make fun of them in private to me. The amount of messages women get on their phone in a day is more than I normally get in a fucking week.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 08:55 PM
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The relationship between different categories is different. Do you have the same relationship with your boyfriend as you do with your parents? With a coworker as with your best friend? No different relationships are different. This isn't even getting into how women friends complain about emotional labor or guys trying to turn the friendship into something it is not these are literally the women you are saying guys should be seeking out to do just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 08:47 PM
1

Umm the poster specified murdering the person she would be forced to marry who raped her... if he is raping her then why does she not have the right to protect herself in any way available, in your mind? The point is it is only rape because she if selfish as hell. If she was not an entitled princess she would go oh hey nice someone to get married to who is on my level nice but nope she is all he is on my level? fuck that I want that chad dickkkkkk! You mean to tell me millions of women throughou…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 08:44 PM
1

Being bossed around and treated badly doesn't mean the relationship is happy and getting a blowjob once a year on your birthday barely qualifies as having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 08:41 PM
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giving birth even with the endorphins you get when dealing with pain like that it is not enough. Ball kicks are awful but are usually not that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 08:16 AM
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Multiple studies are finding similar numbers and most of the women here even admit those numbers or worse such as only finding 5% or less of men attractive. Some girls do settle especially when they are older and want a beta provider to mooch off of, but many refuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 03:56 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 02:25 AM
0

When women only find sub 20% of men attractive it shows something is completely wrong with women. I am attracted to my equal and even sometimes below it, but somehow every woman thinks they deserve a dude who could be a fucking model because they are entitled selfish children.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 02:24 AM
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hmm i think an embrace of equal intensity would be if men had more of a support system, like strong bonds with friends and family. Yeah... that isn't going to happen society and people only see men as at best tools to use and discard. Men are not looked at or treated as human beings like women and children are they are instead looked at as human doers whose only purpose is to provide value to others either through their wallet or work usually with a strong back or by putting in insane hours. Sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 01:38 AM
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It's Bubbles all the way down too. Not everyone lives in supermodel utopia where everyone loves you and money falls out of the sky, but the more attractive you are, the better your life is. This is why (fem/in)cels are so hateful. People treat them so rottenly that they become mean and bitter as a defense mechanism against others and their own hearts. This combined with what happens when they reach out or ask for sympathy especially men (lost count of how many times women told me to kill myself)…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 01:32 AM
1

no, it is that they misinterpret their own religion and use it to excuse their devious actions, even though it is not a religion in which the intent is to promote violence at all, and they think that this is the way to spread their religion. or when M.E. terrorism reaches the west, they see it as "revenge" towards western countries. I think you might be misunderstanding what I am saying I am not blaming religion or whatever I am saying single men who can't find a wife especially those who are in…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 01:20 AM
0

Depends on how much work she actually does. One who actually raises the kids correctly, takes care of the house, and cooks healthy meals I consider fair. The ones who throw an Ipad at the kid, leave the house a disaster, and think making frozen pizza is good enough are just leeches. As a personal example one guys wife I knew would fuckup even basic stuff like microwaved oatmeal, barely acknowledged the kids, and spent most of her time on her phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 11:57 PM
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Or they leave because WTF I can't just spout personal insults and call him an in-cel then claim I won? THIS IS BULLSHIT THE RULES ARE MUHSOGGGYKNEES!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 11:54 PM
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i promise lack of sex with women are not the reason why terrorists blow people up 😅 Yeah it is being unable to find a wife, have kids, and hit other hallmarks of adulthood combined with societies judgement that does it not lacking sex although that is a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 11:49 PM
1

So because they can't leech off their husband anymore it is devastating for them? That is just plain funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 11:47 PM
1

Divorce is objectively more devastating for women according to every major study I’ve seen. Really? Every study I have seen says it is worse for men they are less likely to find a new relationship and when they do it takes longer than women and the rate of suicide is sky high for men after divorce whereas women it made little to no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 11:10 PM
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it will definitely be a revolution of the lower classes before men get violent against women, Unfortunately I find it likely due to what we know from poly societies it won't just be women targeted though it will be society in general targeted. In the middle east for single guys who can't find a wife they promise war brides or 72 virgins to martyrs who then go blow people up not just women but everyone. We saw it with world wars as well where huge amounts of single men who can't find a partner an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 11:09 PM
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Do women get insulted with comments like virgin in-cel loser etc when they can't get a relationship? Do you get judgement from relatives if you don't bring a partner to Thanksgiving? Men do. Men have more urges to get into relationships and be in relationships we have examples such as how devastating divorce is for men and how many men are trying to date vs women preferring to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 11:05 PM
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Not counting work clothing and the suit/suits for job interviews, weddings, and funerals I would be surprised if most mens entire wardrobe was worth more than 500 dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 10:25 PM
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Yeah that is what I was trying to get at with number 3. That is why relationships from the greatest generation tended to work better because of their circumstances with things like the Great Depression or World War Two they were used to sacrifices and because of how they were raised selfishness was pushed back against heavily those two combined meant they could negotiate and work together much more easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 10:22 PM
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i agree that to condemn someone to death is not right at all, but forced marriages should never even be a thought either. Personally I disagree with them, but the way I see it is we have four options: 1. force marriages 2. going back to the old ways of de facto forcing women to marry via taking away their ability to earn a living 3. women stop being so absurdly hypergamous and start marrying their equal 4. or we let society collapse leading to widespread violence, war, rape, insurrection etc. Op…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 10:19 PM
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I realized feeling invisible was not just in my head when women would have conversations near me that I was not supposed to hear or acted startled when I suddenly needed to interact with them such as asking them a question such as do you know where room 305 is?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 10:11 PM
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I said most couples not most extroverts or most introverts. Inability to communicate from what I have observed is frequently the second biggest cause of problems in relationships. 1st being womens entitlement causing a power imbalance and 3rd being both sides unwilling to make sacrifices/forgive their partners trespasses over little things because they are spoiled and struggle living with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 10:07 PM
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Yeah that is kind of what the problem is given the choice between dating someone on their level or being alone women choose alone and are willing to go as far as murder to accomplish that. To me that shows entitlement not just bordering on mental illness but actual mental illness. Even if someone is below you to condemn them to death and murder them just because you are not attracted to them is incredibly wrong much less someone who is your equal and on your level. It really shows how completely…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 10:05 PM
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I don't know how introverted men can date extroverted women unless they are really good about communicating and giving each other room when needed which most couples suck at.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 09:37 PM
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Women don’t generally make subreddits about their inability to get laid or kill people because of it. Women get less judgement from society for being unable to get a relationship and have less urges and biological drives to do so. You know the pressure women feel from society to have a kid? You know the judgement you get for not having one? Imagine that times 10. You are combining social pressures, biological pressures, and personal pressures all into one powder keg blaming them for it and treat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 09:30 PM
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So women, having been burdened with poor sex and poor sexual prospects, should just give it up... no big deal, life goes on. Hearing women freak out and explode at not being in a relationship or getting laid for an entire year because of Coronavirus was fucking hilarious. The same women have ZERO sympathy for guys who struggle significantly more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 09:27 PM
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Starfish sex for me makes me feel both unloved/unwanted and like a creepy bad rapist which is a terrible feeling. I would much rather deal with a loose vagina than that because their are alternatives (oral and anal) and foreplay is still great plus even loose vagina is still vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 09:25 PM
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The context of the conversation was I was talking about women dating their equals and her saying they refuse because they are not good enough or attractive enough. She considered them abusive rapists because to her if she had to be with her equal it would be rape and abuse because if he is not that Chad dick she wants well then he is not attractive enough and it is rape etcetera. Because of this her response was to state women would rather kill via poison their equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 09:20 PM
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If it was just the upper middle class women here saying this I could sort of understand it since they mostly know the top 20% due to their class, but when all the women are only able to see that 20%?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 09:15 PM
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My favorite example is saying men will fuck a ham sandwich or animal or fruit, but also stating mens standards are too high they just refuse to date ugly women. How in the hell can someone hold both these opinions at the same time?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 09:13 PM
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One woman I dated had that issue to the point trying to exit or continue after she orgasmed was painful for her so just hold still for a minute or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 09:11 PM
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I am saying most men are not seeing the benefit even if that increased and only getting the downsides so they are just going to keep doing what they do now which is judging them and refusing to marry in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 09:06 PM
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"I actually have thought about what would happen under some kind of return to forced marriages, and the obvious answer for women is just poison their husbands. It used to happen a lot back in the day, which makes a lot of sense if you're trapped in a marriage you never wantes with an abusive rapist. Just kill him." https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/m5w46h/yes_chads_get_soft_harems_no_the_majority_of/gr6wrbn/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 09:04 PM
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Doesn't make a difference to most guys they are not getting laid it just means the top guys have something on their calendar every night of the week instead of most nights. If women want that go for it, but don't be surprised when normal guys judge you for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 07:47 PM
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Lies. Otherwise, those "lonely boys" would get an ugly girlfriend and be grateful for her. No, he's asking for Stacy's pussy. I don't understand how you and the other women here can somehow think this and also think men will fuck anything such as a ham sandwich because they have such low standards are these two thoughts not against each other? We know men have incredibly low standards (me as well as other people have linked you research on this and womens absurd standards before which you refuse…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 07:32 PM
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I recently had one woman poster say she would rather murder men than give up the Chad dick it blew my fucking mind she went that mask off openly stating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 07:12 PM
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Sure sex but not a relationship and especially not a relationship with the kind of guy they think they "deserve".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 07:11 PM
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Do you people not understand anything about history? Do you people understand anything about men and what happens when you piss enough of them off? Have you people forgotten or just never taken a basic western civilization course in college? They don't care they would literally their world burn than give up that Chad dick it is insane. To put it humorously I might die? But Chad dick! I might get raped? Chad dick! My kids are going to get murdered or starve to death? C.H.A.D. D.I.C.K.! I am losin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 07:07 PM
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I kept having this happen with them and then they would go on to date a hotter guy who gave them tingles who also fucking beat them. Apparently the fastest way to a womans vagina is trying your best to put your fist through their nose.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 07:04 PM
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Do you have the same relationship with your boyfriend as with your parents? What about with your coworker and him? A relationship with a partner and other relationships are different fucking things and saying they are the same is either outright dishonest or completely nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 07:01 PM
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to be good boyfriends, lower their standards, OR PAY HOOKERS. Why aren't you paying for the Chad gigilo? Oh right because sex isn't what you want just like it isn't what men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 06:59 PM
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Besides, I thought you guys didn’t want sluts? We do they are just not for commitment they are for fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 06:30 PM
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Sure I did I kept lowering my standards because beggars can't be choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 05:20 AM
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I had two women I dated who are now single mothers hit me up because they wanted the nice guy provider they broke up with. I was not a dick when I turned them down because I am not that guy, but I sure wanted to say some choice words.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 04:49 AM
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People who get damaged develop issues if you don't want to deal with the issues don't damage them in the first place this is basic mental health 101 stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 04:43 AM
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Right hand normally goes on the mouse and switching mouse hands just to masturbate is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 04:42 AM
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Thank you for being kind and nice even if we disagree politeness and warmth goes a long way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 04:41 AM
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Like blaming a starving person for being hungry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 03:31 AM
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I blame feminism blowing entitlement up womens asses for two generations now to where they think their equal is not good enough and that they are queens.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 03:29 AM
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You can if you want, but don't be surprised at the consequences. Do you want guys to see you as the town bike or do you want to be actual relationship material? If all you want to do is have a lot of sex sure, but don't try and change when you are older. You don't get to eat your cake when you are younger and also have it when you are older once that cake is eaten it is gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 03:27 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/m5qcgx/how_much_work_does_it_take_for_the_average_man_to/ Some of the comments have been pruned but some still remain.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 03:24 AM
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Dating will always be brutal for men, there's no escaping it. Only because of sociocultural changes between generations I have dealt with 400 pound ugly boomer guys who somehow have a wife but somehow average normal young guys struggle to get one due to womens absurd entitlement now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 01:50 AM
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Yup due to insane entitlement and greed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 01:47 AM
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Can't blame someone for becoming bitter after you mistreat them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 01:46 AM
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Nope just made gay men more interested in me. I got in better shape, improved my looks, and more than doubled my income but women who are a 3 on a good day still thought I was not good enough and the ones I dated treated me as if I was beneath them. Hitting the gym and hitting middle class income only adds +1 or +2 to your score and because women who are a 3 think they deserve an 8 it accomplishes nothing unless you were already at a 6. Don't bother guys it is a waste of time just concentrate on…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 01:07 AM
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Everyone does what is best for them and use any means necessary. No if men followed solipsism like women western society would have collapsed a long time ago. Face if you keep trying to excuse acting like selfish children.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 12:59 AM
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They really don't like when you point that out with the "it's natural" arguments they keep trying to use to justify their shitty behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 12:56 AM
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I did they treated me like shit or took advantage of my kindness because their entitled ass thought they deserved a 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 12:55 AM
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The absurd rate of anti depressant use and alcoholism (it is just wine teehee) says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 12:52 AM
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They are not the type of girls guys on the manosphere want because of their attitude and personalities normally the bottom level people which make up the majority of both crowds would have just dated each other but that is no longer possible because the FDS types refuse to date on their level. A 3/10 women will refuse to date a 3/10 man because she can get dicked by an 8 occasionally who never commits to her or treats her badly and given the choice between dating someone on her level or being al…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 11:42 PM
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Because one has stolen and the other has not yet. You are trying to say well you would have done it too, but they didn't or at least not yet so them potentially doing it is irrelevant not only because it is a thought crime type deal but someone else also being guilty doesn't mean you yourself are not also guilty (two people can both be guilty of the same crime the commonness of a crime or how many people do it does not lessen the morality or punishment). Trying to badly rationalize the morals of…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 11:10 PM
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The reason he could be only getting fat chicks is because he's lacking in other ways. Cool, you're hot, but if your personality's shit and your income's shit, you're not going to get hot women unless she is a broke pile of shit. That is your exact words which if he is hot which you admit then shouldn't he also be getting hot women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 10:05 PM
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Yes it is you are deflecting by saying well my bad behavior doesn't matter because you MIGHT do the same thing in my position. That doesn't mean it is not bad behavior you are just trying to rationalize the morals of it because you can't accept that you are a bad person. It is like someone saying well I didn't steal all the money in the cash register therefore I should not be charged with stealing I am not actually a bad person. This is nothing but a deflection to assuage your guilt and bad beha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 10:03 PM
2

So let me get this straight to get women that are at his level looks wise he also has to have more money than her and a better personality? That points to how unequal dating is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 09:34 PM
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Holy shit Lilith finally admitted women are gold diggers who care about money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 09:33 PM
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Why should we curb or change our behavior if you wouldn’t? Why is what you want more important than what we want? Even crows can understand fairness Stage 2. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/lflpna/weekly_community_chat_megathread/gnag6y8/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 09:29 PM
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"Just be a nice guy you will make some woman happy someday." Lost count of how many times I have heard statements about how much of a nice guy I am from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 09:26 PM
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Women want money and looks more than men do so no it is not fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 09:25 PM
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And why are women always OK with being single while men flip out and go insane? Less social judgement and expectations on women to have a partner and guys care more about relationships while also having a dramatically higher sex drive. You know the gendered expectation for women have to have kids and the pressure pisses childfree women off? It is that pressure and judgement times 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 09:23 PM
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I have given ugly women a chance before so I don't think that would change. I try and be a moral person and one of the true tests of morals and who you are comes when you have power.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 09:20 PM
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The difference is these women brought the experience on themselves by trying to date outside their means which led to bad results. If they had dated their equal then the chances of this happening would have been much much lower. Why would an 8 date a 3 unless he has ulterior motives such as just wanting sex or has other things drastically wrong with him that means he is unable to date an 8 like he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:53 PM
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Ah yes random ad hominem personal insults the immediate go to when idiots lose an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:48 PM
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Yup nowhere can you approach women without them getting upset over it. Not at your work, not when they are at work, not at the gym, not when you are engaging in hobbies, not at a bar (wtf?), not randomly on the street because they think stranger danger like when and where the fuck are they expecting it to actually be okay? Just how many moons have to align? It shows that that is not the problem because that is literally impossible it is just guys they do not think are good enough approaching the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:44 PM
3

I must run in different crowds then or might just be my own bias as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:39 PM
4

We do?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:33 PM
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Women couldn't care less that these guys treat low value males like shit, and often it's even a bonus. Most of the time it would turn them on because it is a display of status and power and that is some of the things women really want their partner to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:32 PM
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Some of mine became single mothers which means hearing about their shitty lives through the grapevine or facebook is always enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:30 PM
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Don't forget their absurd demands for money as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:29 PM
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Personally I blame feminism because it was becoming a massive problem even before Tinder so to me Tinder is just the magnifying glass we are able to use to exam it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:28 PM
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Because they were sold a lie that things were going to be better than they are and that oh looks don't matter and when you get older by then people will have become even less superficial. In reality because of media, the internet, and online dating things became even worse when it comes to looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:27 PM
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Biggest tell was writing style. As far as what made me an asshole that was years and years of mistreatment by women I dated and was "friends" with which is a perfectly natural response.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:25 PM
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then improve yourself instead of whining about it If men did this it would not make a difference because of womens hypergamy we know this from examples with womens preference of height where the old standard of 5'10 and above changed into 6 over time due to men collectively getting taller. Women wanting only the top guys is not going to change if guys improve it just means the competition for that top 20% area becomes more and more intense. In addition to that two of the three things women go fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:23 PM
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Without the attitude and shitty personality that second one might be dateable. What happened to below average women developing a kind and good personality to compensate for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 08:59 AM
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As if women get friend zoned. LMAO. The closest they get is getting fuck zoned by top guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 08:57 AM
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Now you say +30% are struggling with dating? Well, I either have very attractive friends (I don’t) or you have just pulled some percentage out of your ass. Study showing over 30% of men couldn't get laid in the past year the Lilith constantly posts. Last words: Seek some therapy, you have serious problems. Neither a women, nor a system like this will help you. You’ll still be the bottom of the barrel and even in “the good old times” cheating was regular thing. No society isn't broken despite you…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 08:54 AM
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Kind of answered your own question there didn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 08:52 AM
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Good ole teenagers throwing temper tantrums.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 08:52 AM
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The same way you shape societal preferences for anything else through propaganda, religion, shaming, and similar tricks to manipulate a population.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:43 AM
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okay shut down the subreddit then both men and women are never allowed to complain about dating then. Your boyfriend is stinky? Tough no whining for you. Chad won't commit? No whining! You got abused? No whining You are just being entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:42 AM
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And the men they are currently with are general the fit and “desire able” ones... Do you think that they would support a society in which women have less rights? Historically they have because it leads to more women joining their harem/family. Look at womens education in the middle east or in christian religious communities as an example. And what would they do to people who rape their sisters, their daughters, their gfs and so on? In those communities it varies but if their is punishment it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:40 AM
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No their are no mens shelters it is homeless shelters which are for everyone and then womens only shelters because society actually cares about women. It is why mens bathrooms are always the ones being changed to be gender neutral not womens.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:35 AM
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It has happened repeatedly throughout history and is even happening in the modern era look at the middle east as a good example. We have single guys unable to find a wife blowing people up because of the promise of 72 virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:34 AM
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thats isnt my problem dude. we were fucking oppressed and mistreated and forced to marry people our fathers wanted us too. Stage 3 https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/lflpna/weekly_community_chat_megathread/gnag6y8/ YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE A WIFE. Yes you are it was the historical norm and we decided for the good of society women should have to find a monogamous partner because the poly alternative was a complete disaster always leading to violence, rape, infighting, insurrec…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:33 AM
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