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Kill myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:27 PM
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My husband had never been in a relationship to speak of before me, he’s capable and will lead when he is the most qualified but he’s not particularly dominant, I am anxious as all hell and dread game would make me weep/crumble not get horny, he makes significantly less money than me, he cries all the time but he’s a gentle giant and it works for him. This sounds completely made-up. If you added that he's ugly as well then that would've pretty much confirmed it for me. So what's sexually attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 10:28 PM
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You were always very emotional, passive-aggressive, bitchy and blue-pilled, so I just assumed. Then again, the typical dude on the West Coast fits that description pretty perfectly as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 09:51 PM
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To be honest, from all of your replies on this sub I was almost completely sure that you're a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 09:47 PM
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Nah, the #metoo garbage was about how Hollywood whores wanted to pretend they were victims, and didn't actively give out sexual favors in return for movie roles and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 09:27 PM
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What I tend to see is that the people who identify "social constructs" understand that these things are learned and actually modifiable (perhaps they have some actual knowledge or experience with experimental psych? dunno) The reason why people use "social construct" is to demean and trivialize certain things. Like saying "oh, your country, or your race, or your culture, or your entire identity are just social constructs, so why care about any of them at all?" It's a way of being technically cor…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 08:57 PM
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you don't see people with lower sex drives complain as much about sex as people with higher sex drives Woah...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 08:45 PM
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No, I genuinely don't believe that. I don't think a lot of dudes approach period, regardless of their attractiveness. I've been to college for over half a decade, and I've traveled to many cities in America. The average person is very socially awkward and doesn't initiate social contact. A man going after a random woman on the street, or even a coworker/classmate is a rare sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 08:11 AM
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What error bars? The survey that the WSP article was talking about gave the 27% stat, but the article itself doesn't mention it directly. That's why OP told you to read the twitter posts that do mention it. How many times do I have to repeat this to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 08:08 AM
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I don't think the women that will have children through artificial wombs will develop the same emotional connection to their children as women that actually get pregnant. I'm pretty sure it will make families even more dysfunctional, so I doubt it will ever become the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 11:11 AM
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Let's say this. And you think that guy is ugly to most women? How does that not make it subjective? Is musical taste not subjective now because a top 40 exists? There's a difference between "subjective" and "super subjective". Don't use superlatives if you don't mean to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 11:09 AM
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Give me an example of what you think of "muscular". And handsome isn't all that subjective. You can definitely see patterns on what women find attractive in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 10:54 AM
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He didn't say "handsome because muscular" he said "handsome and muscular". Are you implying those 2 terms are contradictory?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 10:47 AM
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"handsome and muscular" look revolting and I'm pretty sure that's a very common opinion. It's a common opinion for women to find handsome men revolting?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 10:24 AM
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Except there are documentaries on it, the media talks about it and if you go on Youtube on practically any video on relationships the comment section is filled with those types of people. I doubt it's 2%, especially since so many guys nowadays are not in relationships, are not married, and aren't even having sex actively.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 08:48 AM
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The majority of this sub are rabid blue-pilled women that only call themselves purple-pill to seem more enlightened.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 08:28 AM
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Sure, you can assume that. But the articles that mention how men are too passive never insinuate the women get approached sometimes but the guys aren't too attractive. They state women pretty much never get approached and that's a problem for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 08:26 AM
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Blue pill in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 08:25 AM
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You aren't being clear at all, actually. The survey you're referring to included the 27% stat that you mentioned. you simply read that WSP article and didn't see it being talked about so you just assumed the stat wasn't real and people misrepresented the article. The stat is real in the survey the WSP article mentions, it just doesn't get mentioned directly in the article.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 08:21 AM
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It's interesting how insiders to that sub and outsiders read the same words yet come away seeing completely different meanings. Obviously each one is inclined to call the other delusional, though I suppose there are "third possibilities." The ideology does attract some pathetic losers, but the point of it is to make them stop being pathetic losers, not encourage their delusions. So I really don't know what you're talking about. Maybe make it more specific. As for whether "nice" in and of itself …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 12:43 AM
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I don't think you've ever visited TRP if you think that. All TRP says in regards to attractiveness is that "certain behaviors are attractive to women, replicate that". It's not about being arrogant or deluding yourself about your own worth. That's as bluepilled as you can get. It's true that "nice guy" can be used in a way that implies sexlessness, but that doesn't mean that being decent or egalitarian or respectful or supportive is going to shrivel your dick and make it fall off. Nobody says it…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 12:29 AM
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You have such a goofy view of TRP that I don't even know what you're arguing against. Do you think TRP teaches you to be a warlord from the medieval age? Maybe it's that there are many forms of "nice" and sometimes the concept gets confused with "simpering." I think this pic accurately depicts it. Also, I was comparing the average of today with the average of the 1970's. Some radicals are more radical than others, but that doesn't mean they're not radical at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 12:11 AM
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No, we weren't. We were talking about in general. And I know they probably complain a lot, but that doesn't mean their complaints are valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:53 PM
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Then I get raped up my ass, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:51 PM
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Normies are not radical feminists by today's standards, sure. But the normie of today would be the radical of the 1970's. Being nice is fine, the problem are the people that say that being nice is somehow sexually attractive to a woman, which isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:51 PM
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Bluepill is not a specific philosophy. It's just conventional wisdom, some of which includes: there are limits to improving your shit because eventually it turns you into a vain, self-obsessed coxcomb. Maybe also try thinking of others. It also includes "all women are queens" and "being a beta nice guy will for sure get you laid, don't worry".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:43 PM
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Did you even read the article, or did you quickly post it after you found it on google searches? At what point does it prove or support your claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:39 PM
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Yes. Tons of articles about how men are too timid and etc. Remember those posts about how cities are ranked on how good the dating scene is almost purely on how much men approach, with the ones in which men approach the least being at the bottom?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:33 PM
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I'll shoot him, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:31 PM
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Prove it. And why'd you mix "black" with "minority" now?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:30 PM
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Men commit different types of crime. So? they are policed far far heavier. Rich kids do all sorts of shit with relative impunity that would get poor Why'd you mix "minority" with "poor"? You think you're so clever that I wouldn't notice?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:17 PM
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From what I've seen, there's a lot more women complaining about not being approached than guys complaining about how hard it is to approach. And false rape and false harassment accusations got a lot of publicity with that joke of a movement "metoo". That's just reacting to real life changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:16 PM
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And he'll do what? Follow me around on the street trying to suck me off?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:14 PM
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That pic IS from the GSS survey. It says so right at the bottom left.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:12 PM
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I'm going fucking insane trying to decipher what your point is after every reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 10:30 PM
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The article linked doesn't mention it, but the survey it talks about does. Here's a pic referring to the 27% stat. It's also why OP told you to view the twitter posts that do refer to that 27% stat, which I assume you didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 10:27 PM
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What I said before was that women complain even when they're not victims because they like the attention that victim status gives them. How is what you just said right now disagreeing with my argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 10:16 PM
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You've lost me. What's your point exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 10:09 PM
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Huh? What smear attack?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 09:55 PM
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And I still maintain that you can find more info on the internet than you can get on your own by just asking a few friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 08:45 PM
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Maybe in the minds of pseudo-intellectual hipsters that follow intersectionality to virtue signal about how much they care about their fellow man without putting any of the effort in. No minority is oppressed by the system, at least not in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 08:30 PM
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Compare the amount of women bitching about abuse to real life rates of abuse and you'll see a discrepancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 08:28 PM
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I thought married people could put purchases on both of their names to get tax cuts, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 08:27 PM
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Mentally ill anxiety ridden women and attention whores don't invalidate women with reasons. Mentally ill anxiety ridden women and attention whores heavily outnumber women with valid reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 08:07 PM
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How can you satisfy any curiosity with such a small sample size? Approach anxiety is a real thing acknowledged by most people, you'd have an easier time just googling the thing like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 07:48 PM
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I'm not afraid of men I know you aren't. Most women that bitch about how they're in so much danger and how they're too scared to even refuse a guy's advances aren't either. They just say it for the attention that the victim status gives them. Though the popular brand of male bitching is to hate the protector role Only for women they don't care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 07:45 PM
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The "scenario" in the OP doesn't talk about that comparison at all. What I referred to is what I thought was being implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 07:43 PM
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I doubt this. Post some statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 07:41 PM
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They're not disproportionately married, they're just married at higher rates than poor people. And there are more dirt poor men because women have a lot of assistance compared to them. Incarceration and the systemic oppression of minority communities disproportionately affects men There are more men in prison because men commit more crimes. While the system is more lenient on women, it has nothing to do with oppressive minority communities. Where did that even come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 07:39 PM
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Why would that matter? You think a woman killed by a man would've felt better if she got killed by a woman instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 07:37 PM
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When did I say I believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 07:15 PM
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No, I'd just tell him to fuck off cause I'm not a faggot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 07:14 PM
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Why are you talking like asking a few people a few questions qualifies as a proper scientific experiment? You didn't even provide any evidence for anything you said anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 07:14 PM
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It's not hard to believe, I just scoff at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 07:12 PM
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So individual men are responsible for what their entire demographic does?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 07:11 PM
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That doesn't invalidate the fact that they're still in more danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 07:09 PM
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It's possible that people can find anything scary, including their own shadows.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 07:08 PM
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Men aren't going around bitching about how they're in so much danger, even though they are in more danger than your average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 07:00 PM
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I assume it was one of those play examples to highlight how women always get harassed by dudes. If it was a simple experiment that deals purely with male anxiousness to approach women, then that's fine. But I really doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 06:58 PM
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Yea, and? Women are the majority of victims of sexual crime. Men are the majority of victims of violent crime. These 2 things are true at the same time and are not contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 06:53 PM
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I'm just trying to evoke empathy for the struggles of being a rich person. Why? This conversation was about inhibition and casual sex, not feeling bad about anyone. Some women try to extract more things out of men Not "some", but most. Evolutionarily speaking, the thing women give up is a massive amount of physical resources to raise a child. This would be valid 300 years ago when the average woman had 7 kids, not now when the average woman barely has 1. Especially not now with all the medical h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 06:30 PM
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Also worth noting, but jointly owned wealth technically is controlled by women as part of marriage is joint ownership How would that explain that women have 11% more wealth? It should be equal in that case. Lol why focus on this when focusing on wealth gaps? Why do feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 06:26 PM
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I'd love to see the day when women cut this "woe me I'm such a scaredy cat victim who can't even walk outside" bullshit. It's even worse when it's followed by humble bragging like "it only happens cause I'm so good looking teehee". Here's a fun fact for you, the majority of violent crime victims are men, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 06:19 PM
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How many times have you tried?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 05:12 PM
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Is this some sort of joke? Are you implying that poor people wanting money out of rich people means that rich people have it bad? If you're the rich person in that scenario, are you telling me that you'd switch places with a poor person? Also, this shitty analogy doesn't work because women don't just want someone who truly cares for them. Women try to extract more things out of men than men try to extract out of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 05:10 PM
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Their sex drive is as strong, they just find 90% of men unattractive. Nah, it's got nothing to do with that. Look at how many partners gay men have on average, and how many partners gay women have on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 05:02 PM
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According to that stat it accounts for 1/3 of all divorces. So 2/3 is still just because they didn't want to be married anymore. Also, the cheating reason is for the women as well. So drug abuse and physical violence amount to a total of 20% of reasons for all divorces, which means that the overwhelming majority of divorces don't happen because of them. So you're agreeing with me then?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 03:09 PM
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Except it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 02:43 PM
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The overwhelming majority of divorces don't happen because of abuse or anything like that, it's because one of the spouses, usually the woman simply wants out. I have no problem with alimony when the divorce happens for a good reason, but alimony is a shitty deal when the woman has the power to demand it legally and get it anytime she pleases for whatever reason she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 10:30 AM
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That wasn't my comment, and it isn't what the guy said. He said that it's inevitable that guys have lower standards since it's literally inbuilt within men to do so. By the way, do you apply this same logic to women that are victims of domestic violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 12:11 AM
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We're not nomadic Hunter-Gatherers anymore. What does this have to do with biological imperatives? You're not going to convince me it would be better for Civilization if men got to fuck whomever they want with no repurcussions as to taking care of their offspring. Nobody was saying that, though. Even cavemen looked out for the well-being of the tribe and their children. Cavewomen tended to not divorce all that much. Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 11:23 PM
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Are you implying that people that oppose divorce are in favor of the man being able to divorce his wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 11:19 PM
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There’s a 30% chance a 40 year old man won’t get a woman pregnant. That's not what the paper says. The paper says that it takes more than 1 year of sex on average to get a woman pregnant, not that he's infertile.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 03:07 PM
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How? Guys usually date women that are less educated and poorer than they are, whereas women usually date guys that are more educated and wealthier than they are. Guys also tend to be slightly older on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 11:49 AM
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I don't want you to do anything. You just described creepy guys as dudes that date girls where the age gap is so large that they could be their fathers. DiCaprio fits that description since he dates women half his age. So did you call him creepy or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 11:34 AM
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I already understood it which is why I quoted the parts that show how wrong you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 11:33 AM
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Even in cyberpunk dystopias you won't find this level of genderbending. It's also illogical that you consider a current mentality to be misguided because of a hypothetical scenario that might happen at some point in the far future.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 01:14 AM
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Did I break you? Are you just on repeat now?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 01:10 AM
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I understand, but DiCaprio dates women half his age, so how doesn't he fit that description?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 01:10 AM
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I think he looks fine to most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 12:41 AM
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Di Caprio was handsome once upon a time, but now he looks terrible. And a creepy older guy is one that looks like he could actually be your father or grandfather. I thought you meant that he also qualifies as creepy. No?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 12:30 AM
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The scientific paper you provided agrees with me. Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 12:28 AM
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Nah, he looks fine to me. The few pics that were provided so far are really cherrypicked and still pretty lame.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 12:28 AM
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I know. You were done after your first reply when you admitted you knew nothing about the subject at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 12:26 AM
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Again, a 50+ yo man has fewer chances of creating a disabled kid with a 20 yo woman than a 35 yo woman has with a 20 yo man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 04:47 PM
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Yes, that's what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 04:45 PM
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You described him as "creepy", though. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 04:45 PM
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Where did they say that precisely? 50+ yo men are still overwhelmingly fertile and capable of producing offspring, whereas pretty much no 50+ yo women are fertile at all. You're equating "mostly fertile but less fertile than in their 20's" with "completely infertile".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 03:49 PM
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Nah, I just don't recall anyone ever hating on this dude until it became well-known that he fucks supermodels on the regular, and most of that hate came from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 03:47 PM
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I know you're trying too hard to fit in when you call a man "post wall".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 03:46 PM
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Yes, that's correct. But men still retain decent enough fertility way past the age where all women become infertile.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 02:40 PM
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So skinny, weird smile and....???? What are these supposed to prove again? I'd leave my husband for. Don't worry, you're much too old for him anyway. I also don't think you even know what skinnyfat even is if you use that first image as an example of it. Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 02:39 PM
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I know bitter women when I see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 02:36 PM
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That's not what your source suggests at all. It says that 40+ yo men still have a 70% chance of getting a woman pregnant after 12 months of sex, whereas 33% of women are completely infertile by the age of 40. So that's nowhere near the same. I told you that women do 1 of 2 things, post no sources, or post sources that BTFO's their own argument. You picked the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 02:35 PM
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Sure, that plays a part. But I don't believe he's physically unattractive either. Your only 2 examples so far of him being ugly is having a weird smile and an unkempt beard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 02:27 PM
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That's about male fertility, not how likely their children are to come out with birth defects. Also, from your own source: The study showed that 11% of women were infertile by age 34, 33% by age 40, and 87% by age 45. Further studies have shown that, although there is a mild decrease in fertility in women in their late 20s, a more appreciable deterioration occurs after age 30, and fertility rapidly declines after age 35. In fact, per-cycle fecundity drops from a peak of 25% to 30% per month in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 02:25 PM
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That's why I identify as a woman only when giving my opinion on the subject. If you disagree with me then you're transphobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 02:20 PM
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Cause I think you hate him cause you're insecure. You definitely seem emotional about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 01:32 PM
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Actually I can, cause tons of women fuck him. If he was unattractive, then he wouldn't be successful with women. And that picture is again a bad example. Why is he ugly in that pic? Cause he has a weird smile?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 01:32 PM
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Every time people bring up the subject of maternal age and what effect it has on birth defects, there are plenty of women here that deflect all the time and talk about men instead. When they're asked for evidence of sources for any of their claims, they either provide none or their own source BTFO's them, which is pretty hilarious. While old age in men is associated with an increased rate of birth defects, literally every scientific article on it suggests that the increase is extremely small. Ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 01:29 PM
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Ok? Show me a picture of him without messy hair that makes him look ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 01:18 PM
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He looks fine now as well. The only examples you can give of him looking bad is when he is obviously ungroomed and has messy hair. This picture is in the related category to the one you gave, you're telling me this dude is ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 01:17 PM
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It's the scruffy facial hair that makes him look bad. That doesn't mean he himself is ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 01:14 PM
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Don't know, provide a picture of him where he looks skinnyfat, pasty, moon faced and bloated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 01:05 PM
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Show a pic of him being fat and weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 12:58 PM
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Nice argument, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 12:58 PM
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I've actually been trying to find pictures of him where he looks particularly bad or aged and I can't find any. He did have some scruffy beard in some pics which makes him look like shit, but he's a good looking dude in my opinion. I really don't see your point and I think you don't like him simply because he's a pussyhound that goes after girls in their early 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 12:17 PM
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So when was he handsome?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 12:07 PM
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I’m glad you understand me then. I know you're ignorant and irrational. I told you this from very early on. Yet you haven’t exactly shown how it will fail. Depends what you mean by this. There have never been any matriarchies so I can't analyze their faults, but I can tell you why matriarchies will never exist, which I have done already. “The system” just needs people to continue eating, fucking and procreating. Anything above that is extra, purely for human enjoyment. Altering sexual selection …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 10:16 AM
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Also, this "common sense advice" is sort of an enforced masculinity. I don't particularly like gyms and suits. I like writing. I like T-shirts. I'm not super impressed by advice that boils down to "stop being yourself and start being more like a stereotype of what a desirable man is like." Women and effeminate men always make the mistake in assuming that masculine men are simply putting on a show and are actually just as emotional and weak as they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 09:59 AM
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Is this a joke? The guy has barely changed at all in the past 15 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 09:56 AM
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An 80 yo man having kids with a 20 yo woman has less chances of creating a child suffering from birth defects than a 35 yo woman having children with a 20 yo man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 09:51 AM
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I keep asking you "How is that relevant now?" and you keep talking about biological imperatives or some shit. Right, I keep explaining to you how it works and you keep repeating how you don't care. You still haven't made any link to how this knowledge can be applied. Yes, I did. Sexual dimorphism dictates that women are the selector and men are the selected. Any system that invalidates this dichotomy is going to fail because it's dysgenic. Masculine women, feminine men. Their existence clearly d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 09:47 AM
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She thinking it's uninteresting doesn't equal it not belonging on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 09:42 AM
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You took "I don't care" to mean "I don't think this is appropriate for the sub". Those aren't the same thing, especially since she said both of these things and I doubt she meant to repeat herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 08:24 AM
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That statement makes no sense. It's not a matter of should or shouldn't, It's a matter of was or wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 08:15 AM
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When you interpret words any way you want, then I suppose that might be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 08:14 AM
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To solve shit right now like toxic masculinity Toxic masculinity was used as a term in a scientific paper on prison populations. It means overtly-aggressive, overtly-dominant behavior that leads to self-destructive tendencies. This term was later adopted by feminists to apply it to pretty much anything they want to complain about men. It has lost its meaning. doesn’t matter if “biology” put men in charge at the start. You're still completely ignorant of the subject at hand. I've explained it to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 08:10 AM
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That is an almost kiddy like reduction of communism, saying it is just 'good' and therefore infallible. Right, that's my point. People will use an idolized version of communism they have in their heads to deny the real life attempts of putting it in practice as fake communism and therefore deny any downside of the ideology, the same way feminists do. Democracy and communism are complementary Yea, in theory maybe. In practice it always leads to just leaving a void of power that's taken advantage …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 08:03 AM
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Neither does the old way. What? But You’re point is that things are patriarchal due to nature and it’s the most efficient. But it’s not. Hence the changes. What changes? You're implying that a tiny blip in human existence somehow disproves biology? And no. Feminism will not make the West collapse like the fucking romans I never said it would collapse like the Romans, but it will collapse nonetheless. Or do you somehow think that a way below replacement birthrate coupled with a more and more imma…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:37 PM
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But I'm saying it wasn't female empowerment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:34 PM
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Are you disagreeing with anything I said, or are we just agreeing back and forth?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:26 PM
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Collapse into what? Non-existence. Fuck you mean into what? What did the Roman Empire collapse into? How? Has it caused more death and disease? Only death and disease are harmful? But it did cause deaths, yea. Tens of millions of aborted kids. How you determine harm is vague? Really? Is it hard to determine whether a jail sentence is harmful? Saying that the definition of harmful changes is vague. Yea, societal standards change over time, but so what? That doesn't suddenly make any ideology vali…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:25 PM
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Of course it wasn't. In ancient times the only, ultimate, word and rule was the rule of the fist / sword / jungle. Right, that was my point. It was a false equivalence between "inheritance is done through women" and "female empowerment". I just pointed that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:13 PM
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“Feminist” isn’t matriarchal. I never said it is, but they're the closest we have. Have all patriarchal countries been stable? No, but there are some patriarchal countries that have lasted for millennia. Feminism has only been a real thing in practice for what, 60 years now? And the whole West will collapse in less than a century at this point. Lol! And yet they’re changing anyway. Generation Z looks very different from X, which is different from. The 50’s so on and so forth. And? Again, what’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:04 PM
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There's a difference between saying "I don't care about men" and "I don't care about men seeking women" and "I don't care about men seeking socially conservative women".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:51 PM
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No, my point was that these ancient societies passed down land and wealth through women because it was more secure that way, since men often died in wars. It wasn't to "empower" women and it wasn't a form of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:50 PM
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There have matriarchal societies in China, India, Costa Rica, Ghana. Shit. No, there's never been one. Feel free to name any. To single out the ones that do as “unnatural” is the same as singling out gays for the same thing. If you define everything that humans do as natural, then sure, it's very natural for women to want power at the detriment of men. But that doesn't equal a matriarchy. You can look at the societies right now that are very feminist and see how unstable they are. Do you genuine…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 07:41 PM
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What is “nature”? This is such a vague argument. If you find the word "nature" to be vague, then why don't you find the word "natural", that you have used repeatedly also vague? If 1 or more exists (and there have been more than one) No, not 1 ever existed. That's the point. Are gay people less natural because they are in the minority? Homosexuality exists in nature. Matriarchies have never existed in the human species. So explain it to me. Sexuality evolved because it's a superior breeding meth…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 07:04 PM
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Or maybe your over complicating a gut feeling because it looks silly when stripped down. You're just projecting. You base your entire view of the world on your emotions and you believe I do the same. More power to the point where they are leaders. No? Why is it not natural if women do it? In order for matriarchies to be considered natural they need to exist in nature. You cannot give 1 example of a matriarchy ever existing in the human species and it is therefore not natural. Even the most femin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 06:44 PM
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All this is posturing to say “i have penis. So penis is the right way” Further simplifying it because you still don't understand it. Women wanting more is completely natural. Women wanting more doesn't equal a matriarchy. But keep on trying to push it’s relevancy despite us not even having the tools needed to study it with any measure of accuracy. I don't even know what you're referring to anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 06:31 PM
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A quick google search tells me that Bhutan simply allows inheritance through the matrilinial line and is also not a matriarchy. They're also ruled by a king. So I guess you're right, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 06:15 PM
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We’re pretty far removed from Human with biggest muscles - be leader big muscles = leadership isn't even the case for chimps. You're oversimplifying an issue because you don't understand it at all. Right. Then so are matriarchies. Not for humans. Sexuality isn’t the be all end all for humans. There’s a reason humans create shit like art. Because “survival of species” is something long ago conquered with technology. We on some different shit. Sexuality doesn't affect only your drive to have sex. …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 06:12 PM
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we are so far removed from nature it’s irrelevant. In what way? Sexual dimorphism and sexual selection, the 2 factors that play into the creation and maintaining of patriarchies still exist innately within humanity. It's not a matter of culture, but of biology. Powerful people creating rules to keep themselves and people like them in power is completely artificial. No, actually that's as natural as it can be. Even if it was natural it can be changed for something better. Only if you can remove s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 05:52 PM
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I don't believe there is any better form or any form other than it that is practical. And you also don't believe it's natural in the first place. You believe male rulership happens only because the system is artificially designed to support men to positions of power, and not because that is simply the biological status-quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 05:44 PM
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My position is that human hierarchies are natural patriarchies and that matriarchies are pretty much a hypothetical scenario that is impossible to exist in practice. Feminist rhetoric is about how patriarchies are unnatural and that the default position is actually egalitarianism. Of course, they base this on 0 evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 05:27 PM
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Most work like what? Household chores? Who are the ones doing most of the heavy manual labor? Men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 05:25 PM
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The only communities you can give an example of are tiny and secluded tribal communities that have no capability of war in the first place. That's not an argument in your favor. Men have it better because they seem to have fewer responsibilities than men in patriarchal societies How? Women control most household activities pretty much everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 05:14 PM
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Saying that some bad things are not the responsibility of the patriarchy is not against my point at all. After all, I doubt you consider human rights, or science, engineering, art, etc. to be the responsibility of the "patriarchy". Feminists only use that word to refer to negative aspects of society, never positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 05:13 PM
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I doubt it works like that. A lot of societies used women to pass down wealth or land simply because women tend to die less and live longer, so it's safer that way. It's not a form of female empowerment since men still control most if not all social and political power in those communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 05:11 PM
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So if you don't know why patriarchies exist or when they even started to exist, why do you use "patriarchy" as basically an all-encompassing word for bad things in society?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 05:09 PM
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The point of the thread is that men apparently have it better in matriarchies, but matriarchies don't exist. So what are you even trying to say? And by what metric do the men in this community have it better than the women? Do women go to war while men sit at home? Do women do the risky manual labor while the men wash clothes? Do the men live longer on average?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 05:07 PM
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So pre-civilizational communities were egalitarian?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 04:39 PM
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The Mosuo themselves sometimes use the term matriarchal to describe their culture in order to bring more tourism and interest into their culture. Mosuo culture does have characteristics of a matriarchal society, in that women are the head of the household, the property is passed down through the female line, and the women make business decisions; yet political power tends to be in the hands of males, disqualifying them from matriarchy status. Hmmmmmmm....
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 04:37 PM
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Give me a rough date. Also, do you believe that a male dominated society is a natural system, or is it unnatural for men to have most of the power?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 04:19 PM
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it snot a feminist concept or a feminist concern. How is it not? It tells you that female behavior and standards have a lot of control over men's behavior. So if you want to change how men behave then simply change what your standards of them are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 04:18 PM
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Tell me, is evolution real? And if you believe it is, when did the "patriarchy" begin during our 200,000 years of existence as a species?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 04:01 PM
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That's fairly similar with the "communism has never been tied rhetoric" that the Soviet Union apologists use all the time. When you describe your ideology as inherently good, then all imperfect practical forms of it will be "not real" since they didn't go according to plan. Feminism also suffers from being poorly defined, and having different sub-groups that all disagree on what feminism actually means. Telling someone to "go read academics" is silly since not all of those academics agree with o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 03:59 PM
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“Patriarchy” doesn’t mean only men. You need to read up some more. No, it just means that everything bad is due to men. Like when women hate other women that just means they have "internalized misogyny" cause of the patriarchy. It's a dumb person's understanding of the social organization that happens in our species.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 03:54 PM
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The "study" is a book written by Brené Brown, the Amazon link to it is given in the first paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 03:47 PM
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There's a difference between saying "I don't care about men" and "I don't care about men seeking women" and "I don't care about men seeking socially conservative women". Do you understand? Fuck's up your ass with the attitude?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 03:27 PM
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I didn't say she should. The way she worded it made me think that it's a very specific issue she has with him and I wanted to know why.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 03:01 PM
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No because I do not care about the struggles of a man looking for a socially conservative woman. And why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 02:01 PM
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Chris Brown was also defended mostly by women. I'm not saying it's the majority and OP isn't saying that either, the point is that there are plenty of women that defend these actions and you don't find this sort of behavior with the other gender being as common.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:06 AM
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The average guy isn't a big spender and you can insure a comfortable existence without needing to go to school for 8 years or putting your life at risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 03:48 PM
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fringe Some of those tweets have tens of thousands of likes. Don't make me have to give you links, I'm too lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 02:56 PM
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You have lost your damn mind or you never knew about the VIDEO of R Kelly having sex with and urinating on a 13 yr old girl. What does that have to do with anything? He got away with it cause he's influential and has a lot of power. When the media really started going after him you didn't see any real gender difference between the people giving him shit and the people making excuses. For Cardi B you can see a difference, meaning that there's tons of "U GO GIIIIRL" female defenders that think wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 02:49 PM
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I don't know what that means. Who are you quoting?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:13 PM
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I'm calling you out on your faux outrage because you have nothing to stand on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:13 PM
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Trump wasn't talking about sexually assaulting anyone. He was talking about how women love to fuck rich dudes like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:00 PM
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"she said 'We’re gonna have a good time.' so it was consensual." I don't know what you're referring to but I don't see a double standard. You should try thinking for yourself rather than fall for political propaganda. I bet you were outraged about Kavanaugh as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:58 PM
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It's not double standards. One example is illegal and the other isn't. One is immoral and the other isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:56 PM
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LOL!! Really?????? YEA REALLY LOOOOL!!!! Oh I see... You clearly don't. Thanks for proving my point. Why are you not quoting the part where he said "they let you do anything". The Howard Stern bit you're quoting is him talking about how being rich means you get free pussy by default. It's raunchy, but it doesn't equal sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:12 PM
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Should I go on? Go on about what? None of those men had giants amounts of men supporting them or defending them. They got away with it because they had influence in the industry, not because people defended their actions as morally valid. Any man who defends Trump's comments ("locker room talk, bro") has no right to ever complain about #metoo and female behavior when to comes to sexual assault. So a guy talking about fucking women consensually has no right to complain about false rape allegation…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:02 PM
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Are you drunk? What type of replies are these?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 11:14 AM
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Don't care. I wish they could add a breast size and weight filter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 11:07 AM
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Nope. Sour grapes means: Right, insecure and jealous. Do you not know what "insecure" means? Because either way, and as I’ve said several times now, even if you replace the word judgment with shaming within that sentence, my comment still stands. You seem very obsessed with proving me wrong when it comes to how you never used the word "insecure", and yet you play really loose with the English language in this case. And you coming here to call me hypocritical because I called him hypocritical is …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 10:29 AM
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Sounds silly, doesn't it? I assure you that it's true. https://www.thelocal.se/20100318/25604 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/whe.10015
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 10:24 AM
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It would go against pretty much everything everyone knows, yea.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 10:16 AM
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So provide some evidence for this conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 09:36 PM
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This data says they aren't having sex, not that they aren't having sex cause they're super picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 09:32 PM
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And why are you assuming they aren't?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 09:20 PM
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Some what? The fuck are you talking about? You went from saying that weak men are being weeded out to saying that men just have too high standards. What are you basing any of these things on?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 09:18 PM
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So you believe they're sexually inactive by choice and they refuse to have sex with average women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 09:15 PM
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So you're telling me that men are pickier than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 09:12 PM
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First of all, I never used the word or called him ‘insecure’ I thought that's what "sour grape" meant in that context. Feel free to enlighten me. I don’t see what the difference between judging and shaming has to do with this Because you can judge while not shaming. It's the shaming aspect you had an issue with, not simple objective judgement. Or do you have an issue with objective criticism as well? I said that his shaming was hypocritical because he would not shame men the same way. How would …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 09:11 PM
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Basically the weak losers are getting weeded out. Poor, stupid people are having the most kids and the global IQ has been dropping since the late 80's.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 09:05 PM
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My point is that trying to reason with women to change their minds on affirmative action is pointless since they'll never do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:41 PM
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I agree, and I disagree with the OP that any rationalization will make women as a demographic interested enough to change the system. Women are largely just passive observers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:40 PM
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Most women disagree with you, and they will never agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:36 PM
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Don't know, but a quick google search revealed this: The significance of the gender gap in American politics is magnified because women generally turn out to vote at higher rates than their male counterparts.[16] Scholars argue that this is the result of a greater sense of civic duty among women than men.[17] In addition, due to their longer life expectancy, women also comprise a larger percentage of registered voters than men.[16] Thus, the effects of even small gender gaps in men's and women's…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:34 PM
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But if it hurts them in the short term they won't. Sweden banned affirmative action in universities simply because it started to favor men. Don't keep your hopes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:28 PM
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You described it as a "silly tactic" done only by insecure hypocritical men. When you were accuse of being hypocritical by complaining about shaming tactics but using some on your own, you responded with: "Nothing wrong with paying someone the same courtesy (re: judgement) that they throw at others." So you either genuinely don't know the difference between judging and shaming, or you don't understand the difference between complaining about the action itself or complaining only when you're hurt…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:27 PM
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I don't think you know what a strawman is. My point was that a 5% advantage in total number isn't really all that relevant. They guy suggested that this means women can simply pass whatever they please as a result of it, which is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:09 PM
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What the fuck are you trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:09 PM
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Judging can be applied universally, whereas shaming can only be applied to other human beings for the purpose of making them feel bad. You claim you have a problem with shaming itself, but you don't. You just have a problem with being shamed and are completely fine with shaming others.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 07:30 PM
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And poor people exist in higher numbers than rich people, who do you think holds more power? Women are a passive element and will just support the status-quo, especially since it's in their favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 07:20 PM
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Asking women to take charge is probably the silliest thing imaginable. Women will never do any of this and will definitely never vote in favor of men just because it will benefit them as well in the long term. I don't want to be pessimistic, but the system is shit and it will never get better until after it collapses.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 07:07 PM
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But it's not judgement, it's shaming. Saying you have no problem with shaming others while being morally outraged when others shame you is different than saying you have a problem with shaming itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 07:01 PM
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complains about shaming tactics ends the comment with a shaming tactic How come I know what gender you are just through this comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 06:47 PM
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Other than a below replacement birth rate which leads to an aging population and less passing down of wealth to the next generation, you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 06:03 PM
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And women are the nr 1 killer of infants. Does that disprove maternal instinct existing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 05:01 PM
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Irrelevant. It doesn't matter if a guy's age will be a detriment to him being a good father, that's not what the wall is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 04:55 PM
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The overarching theme of my argument has been that increasing punishments does not lead to increased deterrence, and that this has been backed up by criminologists. Past a certain limit. Why do you not mention this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 10:30 AM
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And I said I agree with you that PAST A CERTAIN LIMIT, punishment is no longer effective. That doesn't mean punishment isn't effective at all. What more do you actually want here?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 01:35 AM
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I enumerated your false absolute statement in this reply, feel free to read it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 01:20 AM
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I don't know how you define "short and moderate sentences", but this was not your original statement. Why are you trying to get me on a technicality you yourself didn't even abide by?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 01:11 AM
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You corrected an incorrect statement with another incorrect statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 12:50 AM
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How do I know what, that they're miserable? They themselves say it by going around the internet or media and complaining. Those are the women being mocked. It's just simple schadenfreude.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 12:46 AM
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Well, his last name "Snow" kinda gives it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 12:39 AM
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If you admit that increasing punishment DOES actually decrease the chance of criminality up to a certain point, then you cannot say that increasing punishment doesn't decrease the chance of criminality in all cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 12:37 AM
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It doesn't matter if they chose it or not, what matters is if they're miserable, which most are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 12:36 AM
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So you admit that you've made more fallacies than I did?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 12:35 AM
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Jon Snow being a bastard isn't a spoiler since it's revealed from Episode 1. The spoiler is whose bastard he is, which was not revealed in the text or title.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 11:34 PM
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Because it's good for women and those women missed out on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 11:27 PM
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The notion that more punishment causes less infractions is a fallacy because it is an absolute statement. You mean absolute statements like this: One would assume that more punishment = less infractions, but criminologists have long determined that this simply isn’t true. Or this: But it’s been proven incorrect Or this: the misconception that more punishment = less infractions. Or this: there was no statistically significant change to offending rates as punishments increased. Or this: While one …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 11:24 PM
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It's a hypothetical, not a real life scenario. The point of the hypothetical is for you to make a hard choice, not for you to reason about how you want to pick the safe and easy choice. It's like that example of the train that has 2 tracks, and on one track there are 5 people tied to the track, but you can derail the train to go on the other track where only 3 people are on it. The point of the hypothetical is to make you ask yourself if you're willing to kill some people to save more. Coming in…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 11:13 PM
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Your argument is that increasing the punishment doesn't decrease the likelihood of committing a crime, but you conveniently refuse to say how this is only the case PAST A CERTAIN POINT. You keep saying how it's been proven wrong and whatnot when you're the one that's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 11:11 PM
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I don't understand your point here. When I say I'd prioritize my husband over my kids, I mean I'd prioritize my husband over my kids in real life. Not in your imaginary world where improbable situations occur. So you still don't understand what a hypothetical is? The reason why you can't answer is because you know you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 11:04 PM
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Your argument is that water is bad cause you can drown and I'm wrong in saying that more water means a higher likelihood of survival. We agree that past a certain point a punishment becomes counter-productive, but if you're trying to catch me with some "GOTCHA!" moment then you're failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 11:03 PM
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But more punishment does = less infractions up to a certain limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:31 PM
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Are you trying to make me give you background fucking lore on a hypothetical scenario? My kids have my husband. They don't. Your children will either have you or nothing, and your husband will either have you or nothing. Your husband and your children will never be in contact ever again no matter what you pick and not because of your husband's choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:30 PM
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That's not much of a refutation when you admit that is a case but only up to a certain limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:27 PM
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They don't stay together, that's the point. They are in separate locations and you can only go to one and your decision is final. The point of hypothetical scenarios is to make yourself ask tough questions. It's not about realism or if this scenario might actually happen IRL. I can't believe I have to explain to you 5th grade level philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:56 PM
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past a certain amount You forgot that little tidbit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:38 PM
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Are you literally incapable of understanding a simple hypothetical scenario? Jesus fucking Christ, woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:36 PM
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Your argument is that an increase from 50 to 100 doesn't make much, but that doesn't prove that an increase from 0 to 1 is useless. The way you're phrasing your argument is to try and be sneaky by implying that these 2 things are equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:34 PM
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If the increase is from 0 to 1, then your argument is still irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:08 PM
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We're arguing about the definition of intelligence now No, we aren't. You're implying that IQ tests only test for innate intelligence and not for general intelligence. You are wrong about this and this isn't true. When doing an experiment, it's it best to control for all possible factors. How is this a relevant analogy at all? This doesn't even make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:07 PM
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This doesn't count because the only way for me to abandon one without abandoning the other is if my husband first is abandoning us both , and I had to choose who to stay with. No, that's not the scenario. The scenario is that you are the one abandoning one or the other, not your husband. The decision is up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:03 PM
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The "amount of punishment" or the existence of a punishment?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 09:02 PM
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I'm not advocating for IQ tests, I'm just trying to explain why they were made the way they are. But the first IQ tests were not made this way. You could argue nearly anything is a part of "innate intelligence" Why are you using "innate intelligence"? IQ measures intelligence, whether it is learned or innate is irrelevant. The test cannot possibly differentiate anyway. while IQ tests do not. Yes, they do. This is why people don't really use IQ anymore. Yes, they do. If you want to study gender d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 07:54 PM
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he simply does not have the vibrant energy to successfully rear a kid And? The wall has nothing to do with your capability of successfully raising kids, it's to do with fertility and sexual attractiveness. If being a poor parent is what decides whether or not you've hit the wall, then teenage girls have hit the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 07:37 PM
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Alright, would you abandon your children or your husband? You know for a fact that abandoning them won't result in them dying, just in you never seeing them again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 07:31 PM
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two different baselines I'm confused, what baselines? It tests this nebulous concept of "innate intelligence" And factoring polynomials is a part of that. I don't understand why you'd have an issue with this unless you believe that intelligence is something completely innate and cannot vary based on your lifestyle. You can become more intelligent throughout your life if you train yourself to be, so it's a pointless endeavor to try and remove whatever factor makes someone more intelligent simply …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 07:29 PM
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Right... would you like me to give you more examples of how wrong you are? Or is this enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 07:24 PM
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Why not? You said your husband comes before children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 06:52 PM
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0 10 10 0 You mean 20, not 10. We are changing differences And why are you doing this, precisely? If college educated people score higher in a certain section then why would you simply hide that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 06:26 PM
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It's a hypothetical scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 06:23 PM
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Halle Berry is mixed and I don't know anything about the other 2 but they're wearing fake hair so I can't tell how good looking they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 06:01 PM
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So you'd kill your children to save your husband? Hypothetically, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:21 PM
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So above your own family? Above your children?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 04:59 PM
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I specifically mean that being SO good to your wife that she takes precedence over everything. That's just called being obsessed and mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 04:20 PM
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No, what I said is that a king could be an alpha dominant in the male social hierarchy but still have BETA qualities in his relationship if he truly prioritizes his woman above all else. These are mutually exclusive. Being a good husband or loving partner doesn't equal "prioritizes his woman above all else".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 04:12 PM
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Two things. Firstly white women tend to age more visibly and faster than black or asian women. Time catches up with all of us, it just hits some faster. Don't know. I can't really name you all that many good looking old black women. Second white women are basically the largest conaumers of drugs and alcohol by a wide margin. You mean per capita or total number? The concept of "the wall", I think, comes from the idea that theres a slice of that demographic that parties hard and fast in a party sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 04:04 PM
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What kind of king did I have in my example? You said that JUST being a king isn't enough to be an alpha, but I never made that argument in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 04:02 PM
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They don't measure different things, they just hide the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 03:24 PM
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Yes. Because someone who went to college is going to have a higher innate intelligence on average than someone who didn’t. So then why should the test meddle with the results again? Why should it artificially lower the results of college-educated people? But the college guys score should be 110. Not 120 because of education he received that enables him to score higher on tests. Why? Why would you remove education from the equation? Because they’re not scoring higher everywhere else as well. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 03:10 PM
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No, that's illogical. Just give everyone the same test and don't meddle with the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 03:06 PM
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I know what you meant and I disagreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 02:58 PM
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I predict that almost every woman ITT will say something like how her lies are white lies or she lies because her lies actually help men out. Howeever, the real reason is that women are submissive and non-confrontational and would rather let a guy be bad at sex and talk shit about it behind his back than say anything to him upfront.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 02:23 PM
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Because it’s a test of innate human intelligence, not a test of “how educated you are”. That’s what it is designed to do. But you just said that they're removing tests and results because an educated person is more likely to score higher than less educated ones. IQ tests attempt as much as possible to do ends runs around those reasons. They want to measure raw innate intelligence. But if one group scores higher then why is that no longer raw innate intelligence? What information would be lost if…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 02:13 PM
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So let’s say the average “college educated” person scores So why aren't they also taking into account college education? Or just general socio-economical backgrounds in general? If the reason why race and gender are messed up with because they impact the socio-economical background, then why not go for the root issue instead? But that’s how they adjust the tests to make sure it measures “overall latent human intelligence” and eliminates things like bias due to education level or sex. The problem…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 01:49 PM
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The position of king itself doesn't make you alpha as history is filled with weak kings that were controlled by others. It was also not the example I gave.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 01:32 PM
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with the same latent abilities How exactly do they determine they have the same latent abilities if they score lower on the test? And what do they mean by "disability"? Is a retard given a higher IQ score cause his retardation made him pick the wrong answers?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 01:23 PM
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No, it doesn't. TRP is mostly about how you can be good at pump and dump and they describe the best behavior to achieve that. TRP has changed over the years quite a lot and it's now mostly PUA and casual sex shit. That doesn't mean their definition is now vastly different, they just focus on different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 01:13 PM
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You’re reading that as “they handicap males”. Because they do. If women started averaging 102 and men 98 they’d take away or reduce “linguistic intelligence” portions until it was 100:100 again. And that would mean they're handicapping women, yes. This isn't done because it's somehow messing with the scientific results, it's done for ideological reasons since they believe it's "problematic" to admit that men score higher on average. Also, you do get "emotional intelligence" tests that are part o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 01:04 PM
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Yes, here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 12:37 PM
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No, they outright handicap men and openly admit it. Most IQ tests are constructed so that there are no overall score differences between females and males.[9][138] Popular IQ batteries such as the WAIS and the WISC-R are also constructed in order to eliminate sex differences.[139] In a paper presented at the International Society for Intelligence Research in 2002, it was pointed out that because test constructors and the United States' Educational Testing Service (which developed the US SAT test…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 12:36 PM
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You just made a silly argument and got BTFO'd, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 12:15 PM
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I said the definition comes from the animal world. The terms themselves are directly lifted from that, so the first ever definition must also be the same, or either very, very similar. The quote you gave doesn't disprove anything I said. It's about how some men completely obsess over women and become submissive, not that they can't be faithful or good husbands. I can give you examples of genocidal Mongol warlords that treated their wives very nicely, and I doubt anyone here could call those dude…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 12:15 PM
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No, I wouldn't. Do you believe it's a bad this to manipulate people into not being racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, to rape, murder, steal, rob, assault, lie, cheat, betray, etc. ? Do you believe every and all manipulation is bad regardless of the behavior it tries to reduce or avoid?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 12:12 PM
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IIRC Male and female IQ is basically setup to give the same results for men and women. IQ tests are actually designed to hide the fact that women have a lower average IQ than men. They themselves even admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 12:10 PM
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The og trp definition of alpha is a man who is emotionally distanced from women and outcome independent. The exact opposite of a romantic who is emotionally invested in his woman. Prove it. Did you even read the article ? Have you even proven that scientists believe there exists alpha and beta in humans? Why would I? I never made that claim in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 11:52 AM
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But we already do it to men and pretty much every demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 11:40 AM
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"The wall" is mostly the domain of hard drinking white women who go to ragers every weekend for like 15 years. I don't think you've ever met any other race your whole life if you think this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 11:39 AM
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So you're butthurt that you were proven wrong, you're butthurt that you can't prove it's THE OG definition, you're butthurt that I don't fall for your emotional tantrums. Huh...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 11:37 AM
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But the OG theory is simply whatever manosphere says it was before TRP got overrun by losers who can't handle the concept that they're betas. Please prove how that's an OG theory. And TRP'ers are actually very honest about how beta they are. Believe it or not TRP is much more honest and brutal than feminism or any other ideology like that and most guys there get chewed out for acting weak or effeminate. Omg. One article that has an abstract about dominance and the word alpha in your title DOESNT…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 11:07 AM
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He wants to improve dating and marriage. One of his more minor points is that this will have the effect of reducing N counts for women since they'll be forced to be more responsible. Reducing N counts isn't his main argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:54 AM
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Do me a favor and read the first sentence of OP's title.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:47 AM
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You're just making assumptions after assumptions. I already showed you that most of the most upvoted comments here don't even agree with you and you're still saying how this thread somehow validates your beliefs. I don't think "the MYTH of the alpha male" from a scientific article means that the scientist is SAYING they believe there is such a thing as a alpha male in humans. The article is about how men are more dominant than women in a natural setting and what makes men more dominant. The auth…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:46 AM
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We're talking about dating and marriage, not casual hookups. Seeing as how more than half of all marriages end up in divorce and most children nowadays are born and raised in broken homes I consider that to be a bit bigger issue than a "minor problem".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:43 AM
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No, it hasn't been.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:41 AM
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What are you talking about? What causes minor problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:40 AM
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He wants to decrease the number of bastard children, not all children overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:39 AM
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I didn't say anything about getting laid. The government will punish certain behaviors the same it already does. Or do you believe you live in a completely libertarian system right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:38 AM
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Yes, I know it didn't personally invented it, I'm asking you to point me to the individual that did so that I can see what makes you think it's an "original" definition in the first place. You keep saying that the definition is somehow the first one that TRP came up with and it's a blatant lie. Also your blurb doesn't prove anything. The word alpha is used in the title and I can only view the abstract. Jesus fucking Christ. You said scientists don't use these words when it comes to humans and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:36 AM
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I didn't say it did. I'm saying they're manchildren AND refuse to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:34 AM
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And? He's trying to make marriages more stable and therefore increase the birthrate. And yes, tons of women are shallow sluts and tons of men are manchildren into their 30's that refuse to commit. That's pretty much the issue at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 01:35 AM
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Those women will be literally incapable of trapping or forcing any man to commit, and since men are way less likely to commit to women they know are promiscuous, they'll have to make some personal decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 01:18 AM
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If you increase the negative side-effects of an action, then it's logical to assume people would commit that action less.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 01:11 AM
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How is it illogical?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 01:02 AM
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Not a lot of men do, that's the point. It's women that are desperate for marriage, not guys. And they like it because it gives them advantages, not because of the sanctity of marriage or anything like that. No woman wants to marry a guy to be a good wife, they marry because it's the easiest route to financial security and kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 12:55 AM
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What's illogical about that statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 12:53 AM
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The only reason women even want to get married is because it's a giant advantage for them to be married. If you actually make marriage egalitarian then nobody will give a shit about it anymore and it might actually die as an institution. That's better in my opinion, but removing and fixing are 2 different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 12:50 AM
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Yea, and? I said I don't check every post and I especially don't check every post scouring for your opinion. Answer it or don't, but don't expect me to know about what you just said a few days ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 12:46 AM
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I don't keep up with every post on this sub, and expecting anyone to keep up with your opinions cause apparently you're so important is neurotic narcissism at best. I don't know who you are and I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 12:43 AM
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Do you honestly think I keep up with every fucking post on this sub? You've seriously gotta be outta your mind to think I keep track with everyone's opinions here. The OP asked a question. You responded with seemingly no prior knowledge. I asked a question and you immediately got defensive and pretended to be exasperated. Answer or don't, I don't give a fuck but don't tell me I have to now check someone's post history before replying to them cause that's not gonna happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 12:39 AM
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So your argument is therefore that if it was a different person that only fit the description of OP's post and you had no prior knowledge of him otherwise, your opinion would be any different? Or are you just trying to dodge the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 12:27 AM
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Is he a loser because he doesn't want to get married, or because he makes 60k a year?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 12:21 AM
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In your first comment. Other women can be this guy's forever girlfriend. I would not give this dude the time of day. Please keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 12:09 AM
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You don't really see men have this same mentality, so women must get something out of it that men don't. From this guy 60k. Please keep up with the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:47 PM
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But saying you would only consider marrying this guy for his salary does imply you only want financial security. And 60k is plenty, what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:41 PM
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You said that marriage is an absolute must for you when it comes to considering a guy for a LTR, so I do view that as desperation. How is it not? I can tell you're very emotional so you should take some time off to relax.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:38 PM
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So you only care about marriage for financial security?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:37 PM
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No, I'm genuinely curious about why women care for marriage. You don't really see men have this same mentality, so women must get something out of it that men don't. I don't really care if you dislike the guy OP gave as an example for any reason, I just wanted to know why you want to get married at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:34 PM
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No, you said that women don't get "spoiled" by a high N count. When I gave a scientific paper that attests to the fact that women are generally negatively impacted by a high N count, you acted like you meant something else by the word "spoiled" and then went into a tangent about how guys don't care at all how much of a whore a woman is when it comes to ONS'. I don't know what we're disagreeing about anymore since I don't know what you've changed your mind on already.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:32 PM
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The purpose of this sub is to hold arguments and debates. You have claimed that marriage is very important to you and I want to know why. If you believe having to explain yourself or arguing are not worth the effort, then you can stop replying and/or go to any other sub whenever you please.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:27 PM
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I forget, what was your initial argument again? I feel like you were actually trying to make a point before.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:21 PM
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You haven't explained why you care about marriage, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:20 PM
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Just like there are natural alpha guys, there are natural seductive girls. And we often lack control of learned behavior too. You're really pushing it with this shit, but whatever. The point is that liking seductive girls doesn't mean you like whores, and liking the former but disliking the latter doesn't make you a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:47 PM
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I'm just asking you why marriage is important to you on a fucking debate sub and you're acting like I just busted in your door and shat in your cereal. If you don't want to argue or if you think explaining yourself is so exasperating, then go to a sub where the purpose isn't to hold conversations and arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:46 PM
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You will see no actual scientists or biologists condoning the use of Alpha and Beta in the context of Humans. What difference does it make? That's where the terms came from. And scientists definitely use "alpha and beta" when it comes to humans. Especially psychologists. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0165025407084054 Yes, red pill userbase is full of idiots who try to bend the definition to suit them. They're trying to bend the definition that they themselves invented? Lol! It's just …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:44 PM
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Technically it's a subcase of codependency. A linear codependency. Why would it be? You can be one without the other. Sure, but many seductive women are acting unconsciously. I doubt this. Being charming and seductive is learned behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:40 PM
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If a man wants me to put in the work of a wife, then I want the title of a wife. In your opinion, what is the work of a girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:39 PM
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Your options aren't "cat island or marriage". You can be in a successful relationship without being married.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:37 PM
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That's not what I asked. Why are you dodging the question? I'm asking if your partner was identical in every way other than wanting to get married and nobody would force him, would you still be with him or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:34 PM
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Why is marriage important for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:33 PM
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If he would've refused to get married, would you have dumped him?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:32 PM
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Why are you so desperate to get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:28 PM
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You mean like where alpha and beta actually came from, which is biology? Alpha and beta males are determined by their social position in animal hierarchies, they also tend to have traits that allow them to hold their high or low position in that hierarchy in common. It's not simply what's sexually attractive to individual women. The top rated comment uses the RP definition while also saying that RP is made out of idiots for not agreeing with his definition unanimously. That's hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:23 PM
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A correlation is not a codependency. Let's say you're in a monogamous relationship, you can enjoy your partner to be brass and seductive with you while also demanding exclusivity. Being seductive for 1 person doesn't make you a whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:20 PM
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Being seductive is not being slutty per say.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 08:38 PM
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Well, I don't care about counts at all. I don't want to commit and that's totally irrelevant. But I don't have an inner repulsion to high N counts as well. Maybe I'm just a freak, who knows. No, every guy is like this. Just cause you don't want to commit doesn't mean that you find sluts to be the most sexually attractive. I am not sure what you talked about with gravel_roads in another thread. I only thought it was about that. Bro, I don't even fucking know what your argument is anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 08:21 PM
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I talked about the male population, not an individual man. Same thing. Exactly, there are men who do not consider commitment at all. Their preferences differ from those of men who consider commitment. But their sense of attractiveness is the same. I meant those are high N counts that are an effect of the desire to get laid. RP (at least noobs?) tells it's the desire to get laid that is the effect of high N counts. In as much as most sexual encounters are not a result of rape, yes. Again, how is …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 08:15 PM
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The most upvoted comment uses what they think the RP definition is, the 2nd one claims alpha and beta aren't even real categories and it only applies to traits, the 3rd says there's no real consensus, the 4th also says there's no real consensus, so does the 5th, so does the 6th. I stopped reading after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 08:06 PM
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These 2 categories of people have different preferences in potential partners. No, they don't. An individual man has the same standard for all women, it's just that he's fine with fucking a whore as long as he doesn't commit, whereas he wants more than just sex with a woman when he does commit. That doesn't mean he suddenly finds whores to be more attractive than non-whores. It's the level of commitment that he puts in that changes what he's willing to put up with. It's not a meteor that falls i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 08:03 PM
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A woman fucks because she wants to fuck, not the other way around. A woman fucks with many guys because she wants to fuck with many guys, not the other way around. I have no clue what you mean by this. A girl who had 15 partners but all were relationships, is not a slut. What if the relationships were all open? What if they all lasted 2-3 weeks on average? But 1000 partners with condoms is better than 50 partners who raw dogged her, when it comes to casual sex. Not when it comes to STD's or STI'…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 07:41 PM
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A woman that hasn't been fucked by a 1,000 guys is more inherently attractive than one that has, irrelevant of whether or not a guy will only want a ONS or marriage. Attractiveness is attractiveness regardless of where it leads. But it is only an indicator, not the cause. What do you mean it's not the cause?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 07:12 PM
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So you agree therefore with the RP that a high N count for women decreases their SMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 06:58 PM
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So why didn't you mean by "spoiled"? Cause I thought you meant the girls would have a decreased value for LTR's, which the paper I gave just verified. I can give more papers if you'd like.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 06:54 PM
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Most monogamous relationships also end badly and end up leaving people bitter and scarred. I see a lot more MGTOW coming from monogamous relationships than from poly/open relationships. Monogamous relationships are way more stable than non-monogamous ones. The reason why you see more people being hurt by monogamous relationships is because there's way more of them out there. Because I have not experienced any negative outcomes to having had tons of sex. Your personal experience does not disprove…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 06:52 PM
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Why would you think that? I've been nothing but calm and you're the one freaking out in the comments for no reason. I hope you're at least a woman cause otherwise this is doubly pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 06:43 PM
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Yes, it does. Using a prospective design based on a representative sample of high school students in the province of Québec, we measured sexually active adolescents’ (N = 2,304) psychological well-being six months after engaging in these relationships while controlling for prior well-being. We analyzed two forms of CSREs, friends with benefits (FWB) and one-night stand (ONS) relationships, as well as levels of sexual intimacy. The results show that CSREs had a small impact (small effect sizes) o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 06:42 PM
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And I said that that's irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 06:29 PM
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RP idea that high N counts spoil women is BS. Plenty of scientific papers disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 06:29 PM
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Yea, that was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 06:27 PM
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Obviously you can do whatever, but there is no "consensus" reached in this thread so it's a bit pointless for you to point me in this direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 06:26 PM
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And naturally attractive women need the app? What does that say about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 12:51 PM
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Then I'll remain a cynic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 12:18 PM
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You should make a new thread where you describe your boyfriend the same way you described him to me and then let people decide if he's a beta or alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 12:18 PM
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What shall I do now that I'm spared your wisdom? I guess I'll just try to move on with my life...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 12:16 PM
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The reason why people say fetuses aren't human or alive is to make abortion seem less immoral. What does religion have to do with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:57 AM
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Dude. It's not really something you can change your mind about. Unless you can convince me that the people I know are secretly suffering, it's just a fact that they are happy. But you only know a tiny subset of people. You could simply acknowledge that the group you're around is a tiny minority and are not the average, while also acknowledging that for most people a high partner count is pretty damaging. You don't do that at all and instead completely deny any correlation between tons of casual …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:55 AM
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People that are against abortion are often so because of religious reasons, but I don't see how that's relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:50 AM
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That's only to excuse abortions and make them not seem as immoral. If I go punch a woman in the stomach and give her a miscarriage I'll be accused of murder, not just assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:20 AM
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Not sure how observing this makes me irrational. Saying that objective data will never change your mind and you'll always base your view of the world on personal experiences is irrational. It does help that I'm also blessed with a healthy physique and good facial features/good teeth/good hair. I was mostly referring to the physical aspect. You talk about how it's a RP utopia since only good looking people are accepted, yet you did admit that you didn't transition as a kid and I have a really har…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:11 AM
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So when you're pregnant you're not a parent?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:07 AM
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Then OP has his answer. The problem is the lack of honesty among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:49 AM
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All I said is that men can't give up their paternal rights while women can. Why is it my fault that you made stupid assumptions about what I meant?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:49 AM
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Because you believe you have to pay child support to aborted fetuses?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:15 AM
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And I was talking about abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:57 AM
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They need the dad's permission to get an abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:54 AM
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What threads are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:49 AM
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Right, but women don't need permission from anyone, so that's the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:48 AM
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This post makes no sense. So are you implying that most men that brag are just liars? Why would you even assume that the men that are bragging about giving women orgasms are talking about the same women that go on the internet and complain about their lack of orgasms? And women don't give attention to guys online because why would they? How are you supposed to reply to some needy douchebag on reddit that said he's gonna eat your pussy, precisely? Giving him your home address?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:36 AM
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No, I mean if you really are the biological parent but you just don't want the parental responsibility. Women can renounce that whenever they want, but men can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:26 AM
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No matter how many papers you show me will change this. It's good that you at least admit that you're irrational. It's honestly a Red Pill dream land, because shit like "having frame" and "abundance mentality" are essentially required or you end up not getting invited back. Well, they allow transsexuals in the mix, so how high are their standards, really? And no offense taken, it's can sound confusing - I'm a transdude, yeah (ftm). It only confused me because you talked and reasoned exactly like…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:24 AM
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Yea, I remember we had the conversation over whether or not a high N count is harmful for women and you said that you're a sex worker. I gave you plenty of links that attested to what I was saying and your only 2 rebuttals were that your personal experience isn't like that and that the correlation might not be there since something else might affect the outcome, even when the papers specifically spelled it out for you. I did assume you were a woman and I'm very surprised to hear you say you're a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 08:36 AM
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I don't even know what you're triggered about. Did the word "whore" set you off?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 08:27 AM
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You should really take a break from the internet and calm down, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 05:33 AM
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So the only reason I might have to call a whore a "whore" is by being mad and a psycho? What's the preferred nomenclature then? I thought sluts were all about how the word "slut" is actually empowering and whatnot. Wasn't that the purpose of the "slutwalk"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 05:03 AM
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Are you that ex-sex worker who brags about how she hangs out with pseudo-intellectual hipsters and is incapable of monogamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 04:13 AM
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Huh? Why are you assuming I'm mad?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 04:08 AM
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I know. People like equality only when it gives them advantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 11:55 PM
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It doesn't emancipate men, for they didn't need emancipation, so that appeal is lost. If this drug came with some clause like "if you can prove you were on it you don't have to pay child support" then some guys would take it, but otherwise it's just worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 11:52 PM
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Every incel can go buy a hooker, that isn't their issue. The demographics you've described are not picky or selective at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 11:43 PM
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Promiscuous women that are part of casual sex culture are not whores? What are they then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 10:58 PM
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And you believe physically weak men became warlords often?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 10:04 PM
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How does that translate to not being alpha?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 09:57 PM
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Please name me a submissive warlord.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 09:49 PM
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Are you implying that ancient warlords were effeminate men that only attracted women by having money?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 09:44 PM
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So the guys that had harems and ruled over other men were betas, but the dudes that died on the battlefield en masse were the true alphas?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 09:37 PM
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People care about n-counts when it comes to LTR's or marriage, not casual hookups. And no, whores and sluts are not this high-class club that only allow admission to other card-carried members. Whores are by definition not very picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 09:28 PM
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You think most ancient kings or warlords were supermodels?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 09:27 PM
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You think the average guy during the stone age was beautiful or shy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 09:11 PM
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That doesn't mean that sex culture is discreet, private or exclusive. It just means that even whores have some standards. Your position really makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 09:11 PM
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Confidence, bravery, strength of character, dominance, etc. are all traits that can increase or decrease throughout your life. Why do you believe that some men are just naturally designed to be weak for some reason? 200 years ago way fewer weak men were around pretty much purely because of how people were raised, and yet you can't put 2 and 2 together?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 08:58 PM
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But they know that the chances of that are slim to 0. They know the guy is a manwhore. They know the guy gets laid a lot and they're just that night's lay. And yet that never stops any of them from willing chasing these dudes and spreading their legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 08:49 PM
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I don't think any OP has ever gotten as BTFO'd as this. God damn... OP didn't even bother trying to reply to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 08:47 PM
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Because thirsty men who want casual sex with no intention of commitment are, by their very concept, unattractive to women. Except every rich dude or famous athlete or rock star or w/e who constantly advertise themselves as manwhores never seem to run out of available women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 08:26 PM
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Are you implying that being a whore is like being part of a secret club?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 08:20 PM
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The language is typical of TRP and other online communities, so a random person IRL might not be aware of it, but that doesn't mean the feelings aren't there. Go tell your man that you only fucked more masculine dudes than him when you were younger and that you settled for him mostly cause he's financially stable and see how he reacts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 04:56 PM
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OP asked if a guy that's a beta bucks should feel bad about it and end the relationship if he realizes that he isn't actually sexually exciting to his partner when he finds out that she always went for more alpha and dominant guys when age was on her side. That's not saying anything about being exactly the same, or being shorter, or being afraid. This is just you strawmanning ad infinitum.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 04:39 PM
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What's the point of this strawmanning? It's seriously tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 09:19 AM
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There are no assumptions in the OP, it's a hypothetical scenario in which the male is correct in acknowledging that his partner's exes were all opposite of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 06:04 PM
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No, but if I learn she only had a relationship with me cause she's getting on with age and I'm the boring and safe choice, then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 05:40 PM
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It's not a "fear of being emasculated", it's being emasculated. There's no fear involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 05:31 PM
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It's not about fear, it's about being emasculated. What are you not understanding, precisely?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 04:49 PM
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ambition is not gender specific It's not gender exclusive, but it definitely varies across genders. How would sexual dimorphism even work for us if men and women both acted the exact same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 01:36 AM
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The problem is that he will always feel that she settled for him cause he's the safe and boring choice. This realization is emasculating and will always make a guy feel uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 01:32 AM
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Compared to 10 years ago or compared to 50 years ago? What's the baseline here?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 12:54 AM
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Are you really using the "unpaid household labor" thing unironically? I heard this for the first time when another woman on some Youtube video said that women put in more "unpaid emotional labor" and I just thought it was ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 12:30 AM
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And yet, with all that, divorce rates are down and continue dropping. Divorce rates are only going down because way less people are getting married in the first place, and that rate is only going down after the rate went up hugely in the 60's.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 12:25 AM
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I believe that as much as I believe that your partner is a short Adonis that's both a beta and an alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 11:01 PM
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No he's not worried because he doesn't mistrust me and it's different. I wasn't talking about cheating and you know it. But nice dodge, I guess. I just turned 27 That's not surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 01:41 AM
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I don't think he sucks, nor do I think I suck. Well, you said before that you aren't too worried that another woman will snatch him up. Do you think he's worried that a guy might snatch you up? I'm in my 20s. LATE 20's, yea?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 01:35 AM
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You yourself said he's the best you can do, so how is that a trick question? Yeah, our definition of beta men are completely different. The "beta" and "alpha" descriptions come from the animal word. They are determined by the position males or sometimes females(like for hyenas) hold on the social ladder. They also show typical behavior, as in alpha = large, dominant and sexually successful, while beta = small, submissive and at the bottom of the social ladder. It's not my problem you made up you…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 07:08 PM
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You constantly bring up how your partner is just good enough and you TOTALLY don't want someone else, even when I don't ask you. You brought it up in the first comment you described him. What makes a man beta to you? Being weak, passive, submissive, non-confrontational, low on the social ladder and with little ambition to climb up. And no, I wouldn't call those women middle aged. I've seen many women in my age group lament not being able to find a good man. Yea, that's what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 06:00 PM
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Perhaps he was naturally a beta romantic Jesus fucking Christ. Being in love with a woman doesn't make you a beta. Being devoted or romantic or kind to your wife doesn't make you beta. No wonder you're so confused about this when you don't even know the definitions of the words you're using. I'm sure other women would want him - they just would need to be short Lol! but from what I understand, there are lots of women like me who specifically want a man who is sweet and loving, and considerate et…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 04:46 PM
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Also people aren't one dimensional and it's feasible for a man to behave differently to his kingdom as a ruler verses how he is with his wife. Oh? So you can be a beta and an alpha now? So maybe about 6 times in the 6.5 years together. You said that this guy is the best you can do, even though you also said not a lot of other women would want him. What does that say about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 04:19 PM
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You are claiming to know the intimate details of someone who lived thousands of years ago and think IM the one speaking nonsense? I don't think you or I know how he was with his wife. The guy's life is pretty well recorded. Several conversations of his with his first wife were recorded as well. Yes, he has cried in front of me? So what ? I don't see the big deal. Why did he cry? And how many times?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 04:05 PM
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The reason why I brought up Charlemagne is because you said that beta man means "man who is devoted, faithful,sweet, fair, apologies quickly, listens to his woman". Charlemagne was a great husband and very devoted, and yet he was a genocidal emperor who strong-armed literally everyone around him and dominated his way through power. By your own definition, a guy like him would be a beta man, which is why I thought your definition is so stupid. I said that I don't recall saying my fiance was submi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 03:58 PM
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Why are you attempting to come back into the conversation after you abandoned it? If you want to take on my position then go back to replying to what I actually said, not what you assume I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 03:45 PM
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I didn't derail anything, I just said it's ridiculous that you don't know basic history and that upset you enough to spend several replies trying to excuse yourself rather than simply moving on. There's nothing I "failed to respond" to, by the way. Your strange description of your partner just leads me to believe that you're either completely lying about him or just partly lying. Either way, I really doubt anything you say about him anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 03:32 PM
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You made a bad argument, we discussed your position until you realized that you have no counter argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 03:29 PM
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You know exactly what I'm saying and you know that you have 0 good answers anymore which is why you stopped even trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 02:25 PM
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Null hypothesis. So then give just 1 example. Well, there already are more men who share my attitude than in the past. I have no clue what you mean by this. What I originally meant, though, is that my friends can support me and vice versa. What are you talking about? Are you saying that in the past men were told to not support their male friends? When was this? Regadlessly, I spend my time for something more than only sex. It seems you do it rather poorly since you are seemingly unable to find i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 02:15 PM
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So you only know basic history from school? You learn nothing on your own spare time? That's even more pathetic. And we've been over this already. Your description of your bf is beyond strange and he seems like a made-up character.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 02:12 PM
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Not sure I can give it now, google was quite useless. So there's no culture like that then? Yeah, especially when they are way too arrogant. It's not about arrogance, it's about practicality. You can feel free and try to design a system right now and you'll see that it's impossible. Especially when you have to take into account that this system needs to last for every generation that follows its creation. I had a few relationships, but not very long. A few relationships out of the 100 dates you …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 10:38 AM
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I don't think we ever began. Not only do you not seem to understand what even attracts you to your own bf, but you also don't know basic history.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 10:35 AM
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Did the school you go to have the suffix of "for special students"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 12:58 AM
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Except it's not a "random king", it's the dude that restarted the Western Roman Empire and decided the political landscape of Western Europe for the next millennium. I don't think I have high standards of someone when I expect them to know about him, at least general stuff. Submissive is someone who doesn't assert themselves over other people all the time. Not asserting yourself over others might not make you dominant, but it doesn't have to make you submissive either. You can be non-dominant an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 12:24 AM
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Acceptable != they were told. But there are some eastern cultures where it's more acceptable. Give an example. No, shaming is not a support. And? You cannot create a society that has an active support network for all of its members that turn into failures. I said I don't pursue ONS. But, you know, some bad dates turn into ONS. But I'm ready to spend some time for sex + something in addition to it and that's what I do. So you go on over what, 80 dates a year and yet can't start a proper relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 12:13 AM
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Meaning you put others ahead of yourself Putting others ahead of yourself does not imply submissiveness. Having the concept of self-sacrifice does not mean you're submissive to them. He was literally not covered in my school outside of a quick glance. History is big yo. Maybe you went to some shitty ghetto school so you could be right, I guess. It's still shameful that you don't know about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 12:09 AM
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I do know that women have bigger social circles, but I'm not sure if they have deeper friendships. Not sure how you could even measure that statistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 12:05 AM
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Not cavemen, but men of those cultures. In what culture were men told to cry in public? When men humilate those men who can't conform to masculine standarts that's toxic masculinity. If they don't and actually can support him somehow, it's not toxic masculinity. What do you mean by support? Do you not think that social shaming is a way of helping some men better fit the mold? The best non-argument. It wasn't an argument, it was a statement. You're the guy that said that sex isn't worth it cause …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 09:37 PM
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Be upset all you want, but you're the one that wrote these stupid replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 09:34 PM
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No, strictly speaking it's defined by numbers. If you don't know what those numbers are then you don't know what the middle class is. If you have no concept of salaries, then you have no concept of female standards when it comes to the financial state of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 09:26 PM
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TBH, I don't know. But there are different male standarts in other cultures, if you noticed. In which one of them did cavemen cry more? And maybe toxic masculinity promotes it It's not toxic if it provides a net benefit to society. If you acknowledge that men being masculine is a good thing compared to men being feminine, then I'm not sure what your issue is. But it also causes many problems in those individuals who do not belong to the MOST. And? Societal standards are harmful to those that can…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 09:25 PM
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But the "middle class" is defined by numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 09:22 PM
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Wait, are you saying that female friendships are stronger than male friendships? That definitely goes against the stereotype. Are you basing this on anything factual?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 09:21 PM
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For someone with no concept of salaries and no understanding of personal preference, you sure do assume you know a lot about what average women want financially from a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 09:13 PM
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Emotionally weak cavemen cried in public more than emotionally weak modern men. How do you know? They were responses to conditions. But read further to understand my thought. I did and still don't understand what you mean. You talk about MOST, but then try to justify the idea that ALL men must behave in the same way. I see problems. No, I acknowledge that all men being a certain way is impossible, but societal norms MUST always promote what's beneficiary for its own existence. It needs to promot…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 09:11 PM
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So for you personally, how low is too low?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 09:09 PM
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How much do you make a year?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 08:42 PM
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Because a human can't deny his nature. There are those who are naturally emotionally weak. Amd there are those who are strong. Both men amd women. What does this have to do with anything? You said that cavemen apparently cried in public more than modern men. What I meant is that intersexual differences developed gradually. Yes, so? You seem not to understand what is intrasexual division of labor. You think all men were hunters, all women were babysitters and gatherers. Which is false. No, but yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 08:42 PM
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Are you an adult human being? Are you employed?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 08:39 PM
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Can you explain in what situation, these non-opposite words become contradictory? Because in no logical world would the weak be naturally dominant over the strong. Submissiveness obviously implies weakness. He's some emperor in history. He's literally the most important person in the Early Medieval Age and his actions lead to the creation of both France and the Holy Roman Empire, which have decided much of Europe's politics ever since. Seriously, that's like not knowing who Caesar or Attila were…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 08:38 PM
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I don't think this man is in the core curriculum What country are you from? I don't see how these are contradictory Yea, I can tell...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 08:19 PM
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How exactly can you be an adult human being with no concept of salaries? What socialist utopia do you happen to live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 08:18 PM
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Some of them. What are you basing this on? All sexually reproducible organisms are descendants of asexual organisms. I'm dumbfounded by this reply. Did you not read what you just quoted? How so? Why can't society exist with men who don't comply to traditional masculine role? Because masculinity confers an evolutionary strength, which is why men evolved to be masculine. It offers a wide array of bonuses, from stronger in-group selection, to lower levels of dysgenic events, to a higher survivabili…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 08:17 PM
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Personally, I have no conception of salaries. What type of fucking answer is this? I honestly have no idea. Probably something middle class. How are you defining "middle class" since you have no "conception of salaries"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 08:11 PM
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No offense, but did you flunk out of school? How are you not aware of basic history? What contradictory terms ? You describe him as confident and strong the same as submissive and passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 08:10 PM
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You took 3 days to respond and yet you couldn't do a 30 second Google search to see who Charlemagne is? Maybe my man is alpha , but its not the impression i get. I have no clue what your man is since you describe him in contradictory terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 02:02 PM
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Crying in public is considered to be effeminate, you already agreed. You think cavemen cried in public a lot? The first sexually reproductive beings were identical to each other. They must have been. Because they evolved from asexual beings. Creatures that mate exclusively through sexual reproduction come from organisms that could reproduce both sexually and asexually, not directly from the strictly asexual organisms. Toxic masculinity claims one size fits all which is blatantly false. Toxic mas…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 01:59 PM
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For you personally, what's slightly above average salary? And what do you believe the average woman considers slightly above average?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 01:52 PM
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According to modern gender stereotypes, in some things they were more masculine and in some things they were more effeminate. What are you basing this on? In what way were they more effeminate? First purpose of sexes is sexual reproduction Right, but sexual reproduction is meaningless if the sexes are identical, or if their differences are more or less meaningless. Some men evolved to be effeminate. The minority. Some women evolved to be masculine. The minority. This is the point. I have no clue…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 05:23 PM
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But I don't think in prehistoric times it was unacceptable for a man to cry among others. Cause you believe they were more effeminate and emotional? But I don't care about it. No more we live in the medieval era. Do you believe masculinity serves no purpose outside of war? Why do you believe sexes exist at all? Why aren't we simply hermaphroditic if gender roles are a waste of time anyway? Regarding jerking: that means sexual needs can be satisfied by jerking. There's a difference between settli…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 05:08 PM
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What's "slightly above average"? Give me a number here. What salary are we talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 05:05 PM
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So in which reality are incels correct about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 05:03 PM
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So how does that explain the fact that women have a way bigger in-group bias than men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 05:01 PM
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I don't wanna follow them. You didn't answer the questions. Exactly, I still have to jerk on working days. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 10:17 PM
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So what are you arguing about again? The guy you replied to said that most women would prefer rich men, you said that isn't the case for some reason and now you're saying that you actually agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 10:16 PM
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Ok, if I cry in public is that bad? You don't seem to understand masculinity or why it even exists. Do you believe gender norms are an invention of modern Western civilization? What do you think their purpose is? I am not ready to spend a few hours every day (and neither I have a possibility of it) to bang chicks. Who spends a few hours every day to do that? People go out on weekends to the club, not every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 09:36 PM
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Well, I wasn't talking about Jews. My point is that it's expect for women to go for wealthier men and not the other way around. Rich women don't usually go for middle class men. Upper middle class women don't go for lower middle class men. The article doesn't seem to be suggesting that at all to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 09:33 PM
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Ah, I eat Rafaello sweets, if you really want to know. I don't know anyone who thinks eating any sweet somehow goes against gender stereotypes. That will result only in ONS and it costs a few hours. Not sure it is worth it. I really doubt you came to this conclusion because of any rational analysis of it. You just have a low libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 09:10 PM
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IDGAF what society thinks of me. I can wear violet clothes, eat Rafaello sweets, etc. And can be open about it. "I can" and "I do" are very different from one another. It is easy to get sex with unattractive women. There's plenty of 7/10's and 8/10's at the average club in the average big city.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 08:50 PM
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Have you observed upper class women routinely go after middle class men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 08:48 PM
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I'd not. And that's awful. It appears it's the only purpose of shouting: to impress other people. Show yourself as manly. I don't know what you mean by this. Jacking off is not as good as having sex, but does "paying" for sex with your energy-time worth it? That is what I intended to mean. Yea, it is. That's why men do it. Sexual needs can be satisfied with a hand, that's my another point. No, they can't. Settling for masturbation and being satisfied with masturbation are two very different thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 08:03 PM
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There's a big difference between "we don't know" and "I know they're referring to the average middle class guy".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 07:59 PM
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Where people might cry I simply shout. Shouting and raging is not better than crying. So you only display typically masculine behavior but are certain that you'd get the exact same reaction from your male peers if you were to display feminine behavior? Why? I simply told men should date women for more than just sex. No, you said jacking off and having sex are the same and that men having a higher libido than women on average and seeking out women for the purpose of having sex is pointless since …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 07:45 PM
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Because it forces people to act as they do not like to. That doesn't make it bad. Do you think educating children and making them abandon their childishness when they achieve adulthood is somehow bad because they might personally not want it? We all have to make sacrifices. Acting purely based on what makes you happy in the moment is shortsighted. Not really often. Life often shitted on me, so I'm the one who almost never cries. So how would you know then? But why would I stop on a mere sex with…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 07:22 PM
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People have different realities?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 07:18 PM
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The quoted text claims that women want men to earn a lot of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 07:17 PM
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Is this babby's first troll attempt?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 07:11 PM
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You mean "them" not "it". I gave you two links. Read them when you have free time, who's rushing you? Reply when you have time, why are you acting like I'm pressuring you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 07:09 PM
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Some of men are emotional in fact and do not show emotions and shame "unmanly" men only because they are brainwashed. I think you're confusing "emotional" with "effeminate". Ever heard "Men don't cry"? That's an example of toxic masculinity brainwashing. In inappropriate contexts? No. I think everyone accepts men crying in the right circumstance, but there's a higher demand for men to be masculine for obvious reasons. Why is such a thing "toxic"? I have male friends who can understand me if I cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 07:07 PM
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Just read the links you asked for and stop demanding to be spoonfed. How bad is your ADHD if you can't spend 1 minute reading 2 1-page articles?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 07:01 PM
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You cut out this part: It seems to be true what the british "Telegraph" has written succinctly, but hardly gender-sensitive: "what women really want: marrying a rich man." Do you think financially stable = rich? You can be financially stable and be working class, you know that, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 06:54 PM
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At least some of them are those. What? What do you mean? Great. Then you should accept men still want emotional support. Just less than women on average. And maybe another kind of it. But I do accept that. What does that have to do with your initial argument? The person you replied to said that men don't make friends with other men the same way women make friends with other women, and you said that those men are "brainwashed into toxic masculinity". So I'm asking you again, do you believe men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 06:51 PM
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Why the fuck are you asking me to provide you with links that support my argument and then you don't even read them? Am I supposed to just give you the exact quote to answer every question you have now?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 06:47 PM
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While those men themselves would like to live in a world where "unmanliness" is not ashamed. How would you know this? No, but they still have emotions. Men are not fucking robots. That wasn't in question. I mean if you really want a mere hole, you already can make one from your hand. Have you ever masturbated? Have you ever had sex? Were the two experiences equally pleasurable to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 06:36 PM
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A woman outearning her husband could even doom the marriage, as the researchers report this “increases the likelihood of divorce by 50 percent.” The articles are short enough that you could read them both in like 40 seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 06:35 PM
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Yes, and are you unable to access the 2 links I've provided, or what's the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 06:28 PM
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I see. So if an "incel" says women are garbage, that's proof they actually are?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 06:28 PM
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How does that entitle women to demand that men have higher salaries than them? I thought men being paid more was problematic or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 06:21 PM
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I have a feeling you'll never clarify what you just said. Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 06:20 PM
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You brought up cheating patterns, so I assumed you know the correlation between cheating and divorce rates. I just did a quick Google search and I found this and this. There's like 100 more articles all agreeing with one another if you want to look it up yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 06:19 PM
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I try not to befriend those men brainwashed into toxic masculinity. Do you believe every psychological or behavioral difference between men and women is something learned? Do you believe men are inherently just as emotional as women and are simply brainwashed into lying to themselves? Bad for men if they pursue women just for a pussy. Makes them too dependent on women. Are you suggesting that guys should just go for some man ass, or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 06:00 PM
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How is that "proof"? It's just some random person on reddit giving their opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 05:51 PM
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Women are justified to expect men to contribute an equal or greater proportion of the household finances, especially given that wages are decreasing. Why would that justify that expectation? It's decreasing for men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 05:41 PM
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He did. He quoted the relevant part.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 05:24 PM
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Do 70% of them cheat? Otherwise there's a bit of a mismatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 05:12 PM
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And stats also show that if the woman makes more money she has a higher likelihood of breaking it off, and the bigger the difference the bigger the chance. So how does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 05:01 PM
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So your logic is that women have a stronger in-group bias because they have sex with other women? I'm pretty sure there are more gay men than gay women so I'm not sure that is very logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 04:13 PM
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the fake science and blatant misinformation that gets posted, the fact that almost every field report is a straight up lie Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 04:08 PM
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How many pills was Neo handed?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 04:01 PM
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It wouldn't matter. A gorgeous 21 year old girl will never complain about finding men. Why do you think there's a sub specifically made for women over thirty to complain about relationships, but none for gorgeous women in their early 20's?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 12:45 PM
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That wasn't your only error. Just go to sleep and reply when you're rested. There's no rush.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 10:18 PM
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I see you're also too tired to apply proper grammar. Take a nap and reply when you're rested, or don't reply at all. I don't want to decypher your poorly written replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 08:42 PM
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Is this an unfinished comment, or...?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 08:13 PM
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Your definition of alpha is just the typical fuckboy that lives in any big city. The type of guy that has sex with plenty of women but never commits. Do you believe a guy like Charlemagne could be considered an alpha? Do you think commitment, emotional attachment or planning for the future discounts someone from being an alpha?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 07:15 PM
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Meaning?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 07:12 PM
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If she were an attractive woman then getting a man wouldn't be an issue for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 04:21 PM
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How is that relevant? TRP is for guys that were the "nice guy" stereotype for most of their lives and they realized that it got them nowhere. Of course they're gonna focus on increasing their chances of getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 04:18 PM
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I don't really follow TRP precisely because it's just PUA stuff for the most part. A lot of the things they say is true, however. I'm still not exactly sure why your definition of "alpha man" comes from a "cult" that you seem to hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 01:58 PM
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TRP is mostly PUA stuff at this point. They focus on how to get tons of casual hookups. The advice they give on relationships definitely isn't about being a hardheaded idiot. Did you read the articles on the sideline from TRP sub, or are you just going off some random comments you saw here and there?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 01:30 PM
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You just seem to have a twisted definition of "alpha" and "beta". It seems you believe that alpha = immature and insecure brat who seeks to dominate others and is not trustworthy or dependable. It's like you watched too many 90's movies about high school life and now whenever you think of "alpha", you picture the typical bully or jock stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 01:12 PM
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When you said he's quick to apologize and is constantly singing you praises. This doesn't seem like that guy that stands up for himself all that much. You just seem to describe the guy in often contradictory terms. You also said that you're more attracted to beta men than to alphas, but when I asked what you find sexually exciting you didn't list any beta characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 12:42 PM
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So he has a low libido, is sensitive, cries in front of you, is a bit of a doormat, is non-confrontational, is constantly singing you praises and you know that there aren't a lot of women that are interested in him cause of his height, and yet at the same time he's strong, confident, secure, muscular and dominant?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 12:00 PM
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So being confident, strong, dominant, etc. doesn't make him an alpha, but him being fair, faithful and sensitive makes him a beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 11:38 AM
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So you're attracted to beta men and don't like alphas, but you also are attracted to confident, sexually dominant, muscular, strong men. What exactly do you think is a "beta man"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 11:19 AM
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So you're not attracted to the fact that he's a beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 07:48 AM
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Do you believe that if he largely remained the same in every way, but his behavior became more "alpha" rather than that of a beta male, you would be less attracted to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 01:40 AM
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Alright, now it passed the spam filter. ADHD is not a very good explanation and doesn't counter any point I made. It became painfully obvious to me by the tales on this sub that men like him are underappreciated and underrated. Men like him meaning what? Dudes that are taller than their female partners, are fit and look like male models? Sounds like a great catch, especially since you don't judge him by an objective height measurement and you only care that he's taller than you. You are applying…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 12:52 AM
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Your last reply got picked up as spam. I got the notification and I can see it in your post history, but I can't reply to it. Edit it and repost it until it passes the check so I can reply to it. You can check if it posted properly by using the permalink to it in incognito mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 12:45 AM
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All you had to say was "he's hot and confident". You didn't have to mention he's below average height, or that you aren't worried that a girl might steal him from you, or that he isn't approached that much, or that internet incels got into your head about your own boyfriend. The fact that you felt like you needed to defend your own choice this much does show your deep insecurity about your partner. You might not realize it when you yourself are saying this stuff, but I promise you that if you we…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 12:18 AM
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This is just obvious coping. Women love to brag that their man is rich, or handsome, or etc. to other women to raise their own status. No woman believes it's a genuine quality of their partner that they're generally unwanted by other women because it shows that they personally settled and aren't as good as other women. The fact that I asked a simple question in regards to what you find sexually exciting about him, and yet you spent more time detailing his short height (that you TOTALLY don't hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 11:12 PM
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I obviously said it in jest. I just think it's obvious that you're deflecting. If you were to ask me what I find sexually exciting in a woman, and I'd say "she's a short blonde girl", would you find that to be a good answer? You didn't even say he's handsome, or good in bed, or charismatic. You just mentioned hair color and height. Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 10:47 PM
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So he's a blond midget with a big dick?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 10:39 PM
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Why are you being so defensive? I asked a simple question. What do you find sexually exciting about him? Not what you simply like or what you find attractive, but what you find sexually exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 09:21 PM
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So he's decent looking but below average height. This is how you answer when I ask in what way he's sexually exciting for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 08:24 PM
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Women are more neurotic, sensitive and emotional. They're more insecure on average, but some individual women do differ from the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 07:51 PM
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Being the guy that a woman settles for once she starts worrying about her age doesn't make you a "good man", it makes you a simp. You seem to think that simp = good man, and that having standards makes you a bad guy automatically.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 07:33 PM
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So what is sexually exciting about your beta male partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 07:12 PM
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There's a very big difference between getting a guy cause you really wanted him and settling for him cause you had no better option.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 01:54 PM
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How is that sexist? Acknowledging that there are submissive and dominant men is just a basic fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 01:03 PM
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Maybe women should suck more dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 12:12 PM
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That's doubtful purely because women spend more time with other women and men don't talk about women as much as women themselves do. Even then, women are more likely to insult one another just like men are more likely to insult one another than insult the other gender, in part because of the amount of time spent with people of the same gender but also because of socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 02:53 PM
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I don't know what you mean by "hard truth". Every ideology is based on truth claims, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 07:04 PM
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They complain about hypergamy and the fact that the system is unfair, not that they're getting so much sex personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 07:04 PM
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Pretty much this entire comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 07:02 PM
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How does a sub "running around" look like, exactly? Are you saying that there's no feminist that claims to know any hard truth relating to feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 05:39 PM
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Link them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 05:38 PM
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You're right. I must've missed all the guys complaining they've been getting their dicks sucked too much. That's definitely a typical male problem nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 05:37 PM
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Please name the "response" I refused to address.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 05:36 PM
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Huh? You think TBP or feminism claim they don't know the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 05:35 PM
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You refused to respond to my arguments while pretending to be exasperated that I asked the same question over and over again. I didn't and you're passive-aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 05:35 PM
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when their purpose is to make debates between people of different opinions. Yeah, but only certain opinions are allowed to be discussed. I just found it curious, that's all. I'd be happy to discuss TRP with you if you wanted, otherwise we agree that the sub is home to plenty of irrational people that fell for an echo chamber. I don't inherently disagree with your conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 05:33 PM
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Women call each other sluts way more than men call women sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 05:32 PM
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I don't know, I haven't really seen that. The average guy might say he won't be put off by a woman having sex with him on the first day, but I don't think he would argue it would help them woman herself somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 05:07 PM
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Men complain that women have too much sex with them? On what planet?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 05:05 PM
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"Stalking" is a very strong word. You said you were active in that sub so I checked your history. It took me about 15 seconds to realize you made 1 post in 7 months. If you've been active more in cmv or purplepill, then why didn't you give those subs as examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 01:37 PM
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Refusing to explain yourself while acting so exasperated definitely makes you seem emotional. Abandoning the conversation only to come back to be passive-aggressive doesn't help your position at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 01:35 PM
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And you are of the opinion rationalizations do not happen in the examples of subs I gave?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 01:34 PM
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Not to sound creepy, but you have 1 post in TRP in the last 7 months. Obviously, you could've been lurking but it doesn't seem you're particularly active in that sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 01:08 PM
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Meaning? The guy was a bit whiny, but what does his position have to do with how jaded anyone is?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 01:04 PM
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Right, and the "context" doesn't tell me anything about what you actually meant. If you don't want to have a conversation, then don't reply, but don't throw tantrums like you're on your period.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 01:03 PM
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But the fact that you spent time on TRP is meaningless, because you're not going after TRP in any way. Your argument is that "just because X is real, doesn't mean Y is". But you're not saying "Y is actually false". It seems you're trying to go after TRP but you don't want to actually tip your toes in the water.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 12:43 PM
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That comment wasn't what you replied to originally. And no, it doesn't explain anything either. Your answer to that question is that nobody knows how to do that since there is no magical way of getting tons of sex, but OP didn't ask that. She simply asked for the "best" strategy available. Also i find it irritating to have to pick a specific example out of a hat when i already mentioned a list of specific things, alpha beta, evopsych, bullshit field reports, “game”. Do you want even more specifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 12:40 PM
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But why mention TRP at all? Your problem is that the nature of subs themselves lead to echo chambers. Surely feminist subs, or blue-pilled subs, or etc. suffer from the same flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 12:12 PM
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No, OP is talking about how guys want tons of casual sex and don't understand why women put it off or don't share their mentality. OP said nothing about teaching guys how to get laid easier. Also, you're now saying that you can get better at attracting women, which is something you said you can't before cause apparently nobody knows any better than anyone else. Now you've changed your mind? You've also refused to give me any examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 11:53 AM
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What is the purpose of this post? You're not going after TRP or any of its messages, you're just saying that you shouldn't fall into an echo chamber and question what you think. Why did this need an entire page of writing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 11:47 AM
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The context doesn't help me understand what you mean any better. This entire thread you spent just talking about how shit is unfair but that also you can't get better at getting women for some reason cause apparently nobody knows any better than anyone else. It is the “game”, pua inspired shit and wild theories about alpha/beta, evopsych, the insipid mra crap, dodgy field reports, etc that I dislike. Give some specific examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 11:24 AM
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What snake oil bullshit? TRP tells you to be physically fit, confident and socially dominant. You're telling me that's snake oil bullshit? Why are you separating "effort spent to be more attractive" and "trp" when 95% of TRP is about making yourself more attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 09:50 AM
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It's not bad faith, it's just arguing for what you want. It's the same reason why guys shouldn't get sex advice from women, because the overwhelming majority of that advice is just trying to turn you into a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 09:49 AM
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Avoid the slut label. Who is perpetuating that label? Women. Do you think it's men that try to stop women from fucking them on the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 09:40 AM
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Except that's not true because there are varying degrees of success. I'll assume your username is an accurate descriptor of yourself and that your completely subjective and nihilistic mentality is largely the cause for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 09:29 AM
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Be yourself. If they don't want you, then that's that, nothing can be done about it. Nothing can be done? So you can't change yourself to be more attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 09:18 AM
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For an allegedly RP'ed dude, you sure do talk like a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 08:56 AM
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Most of the redpill shit is just PUA stuff. It's designed for men that want to get laid, not have LTR's. So I don't see how it would hurt anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 08:49 AM
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Not much of a surprise then, is there? Plus, there's a big difference between "loving a boring life", and settling for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 01:29 AM
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Let me guess, she's not in her early 20's?!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 01:23 AM
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So they do more than women will?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 05:36 AM
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No, it's not a matter of life and death, it's simply a matter of her running out of loyal customers at a faster rate than if she sold her produce at the right price. It's not about weakness, desperation, ignorance or misfortune. Any poor buyer would also qualify for these characteristics, and yet we've established that it isn't the farmer's responsibility nor a matter of morality if she simply lets them starve.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 08:51 PM
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Again, that isn't a good analogy. If you want to play the farmer analogy, and women are farmers while men are the consumers of food, then you're basically blaming the consumers because they accept food for prices that aren't very advantageous to the farmer. Why is it the buyer's responsibility to tell the farmer what the good price is to sell their product?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 01:47 PM
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I did get the farmer metaphor, I just didn't think it properly applied. And I argued against exact quotes I took from your comments, so I don't see how you can make that argument. I just don't have the energy to read an entire volume every time I reply to you, that's all. I have no clue why you can't keep them shorter, since I can pretty much summarize all of your comments in like 2-3 sentences.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 06:49 PM
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No, you didn't. All of your replies to me except this one have been very long. I wouldn't have a problem with it if you filled them with arguments, but you pad them out with tons of fluff that doesn't mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 02:35 PM
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Bro, is there a way for you to make more concise comments? You ramble so much and you write a fucking volume every time. Keep them shorter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 11:10 PM
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Maybe women should stop being sensitive or turn the chat off.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 11:07 PM
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But that is too loose to base a moral code around. That "something" can range from just not saying hello to assault. It's a bit meaningless to say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 11:06 PM
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I said that would be the only context in which your actions would be justified No, that makes no sense. I never implied it nor does that hold any water. Why does casual sex need to be essential for women to be considered immoral by withholding it? Do you believe it's essential to not have casual sex with women in order for them to be mentally healthy? A farmer decides who gets their produce and in what context in the same way a woman decides who she sleeps with. And why is the buyer responsible …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 07:37 PM
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I know the definition, but I don't know how you're applying it here. I have analyzed information objectively, which is why I supported my stance with scientific papers, while you can only support it with your personal opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 07:04 PM
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I won't accept that because you're illogical. I have no clue what you mean by "proven" and what your standard for proof is as you haven't explained yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 06:51 PM
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So facts change according to human understanding, not the other way around? And you still haven't explained what you mean by "overwhelming".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 06:44 PM
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Overwhelming meaning what? And are you saying that consensus decides what facts are? Was it not a fact that smoking led to cancer before there was a consensus on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 06:15 PM
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Do you believe smoking tobacco leads to cancer? How do you explain that not every smoker has cancer?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 06:00 PM
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So how could I "prove" it then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 05:41 PM
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You called it "broscience" and I provided proper scientific articles backing up my claims. Now you've just dismissed them all and you continue to disagree purely based on your personal emotions. You're in no position to mock anyone for scientific illiteracy or irrationality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 05:34 PM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201303/how-casual-sex-can-affect-our-mental-health https://www.everydayhealth.com/longevity/can-promiscuity-threaten-longevity.aspx https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3752789/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 05:25 PM
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What you're talking about would be more equal to the example of a farmer that doesn't give their vegetables and fruits out for free to impoverished Americans that can't afford to eat healthy. How is that a valid comparison? So a lack of sex is not the damaging variable here No, a lack of sex has pretty obvious negative side-effects. https://www.webmd.com/sex/stop-having-sex-health#1 Even if a lack of sex was always the damaging variable and sex itself was as essential as fruit and vegetables I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 05:23 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5731847/ https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201303/how-casual-sex-can-affect-our-mental-health https://www.everydayhealth.com/longevity/can-promiscuity-threaten-longevity.aspx https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3752789/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 05:10 PM
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If you have no responsibility towards women, then how can you be immoral by having casual sex with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 05:09 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5731847/ It is fact though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 05:06 PM
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The women that are relatively successful and attractive that always want men more successful than they are. You can find plenty of articles on the internet written by women like this. Their existence isn't much of a mystery.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 12:40 PM
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Damages their ability to pair bond and increases rates of drug abuse, depression and suicide attempts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 11:15 AM
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The abstract even mentions body fat and oxygen consumption being relevant factors, and yet you came to the conclusion that fitness and biology are somehow separate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 11:14 AM
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It's still a silly logic, though. Are women that refuse to have sex with ugly guys, or poor guys, or uncharismatic guys immoral because a lack of sex is damaging to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 11:12 AM
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We've been over it. This started because you thought that you could quote a passage out of the study to prove me wrong, but you didn't realize what "fitness" actually meant. Rather than accept you're wrong and move on, your pride forced you to start shitposting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 11:08 AM
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If a woman realizes that a lack of sex is psychologically damaging to a man, is she immoral when refusing sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 11:06 AM
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I cited it several times and explained to you that biological factors play a role in fitness. We can go back and forth forever. Your shitposting isn't as effective as you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 11:02 AM
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How does it have nothing to do with the discussion? The discussion is about what responsibility men have in deciding a woman's life for her. Do you believe random men should be forced to educate random women? You have no duty to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 11:00 AM
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You never explained it. You just implied that fitness and biological factors are 2 completely different things, and when I took time to explain that you're wrong you just repeated yourself. Regardless, if you accept that women do get injured more because of biological factors, then you agree with me anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 10:53 AM
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Yea, which suggests that a high n count for women has a negative psychological effect on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 09:19 AM
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Your source said the two factors to women being injured more in bootcamp was due to things like bone density and the women being less fit than the men. --------> It never said women had lower fitness due to biological factors. ?????
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 09:18 AM
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Nope what? The study doesn't specify it's directly caused by weaker bone density, but other studies like this one do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 10:18 PM
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Having weaker bones and being less fit are not two different claims. Having weaker bones plays into them being less fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 09:44 PM
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We both know you're shitposting as a way to hide the fact you got BTFO'd early on in this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 09:29 PM
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I've already cited it here. You didn't bother reading the abstract or the comment where I posted it for you. By the way fitness is largely about life choices. That's true, and the paper also mentions that. But it's not just life choices, and as you can see the men do better than the women at all stages due to biological factors. What life choices do you think a woman can make to increase her bone density, or bone size, or muscle density, or her V˙O2max to the level of a man? And how can a woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 09:25 PM
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It's not an attack, it's a serious question. They do have lower fitness because of biological factors, as the paper mentions repeatedly. You seem to be implying that fitness is all about life choices. I've explained this to you already twice now, and you've still not understood yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 09:17 PM
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Using a prospective design based on a representative sample of high school students in the province of Québec, we measured sexually active adolescents’ (N = 2,304) psychological well-being six months after engaging in these relationships while controlling for prior well-being. We analyzed two forms of CSREs, friends with benefits (FWB) and one-night stand (ONS) relationships, as well as levels of sexual intimacy. The results show that CSREs had a small impact (small effect sizes) on subsequent p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 08:14 PM
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Yea, but guys play with people they know and they can get doxxed too. So why are women more afraid?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 08:11 PM
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Your edit is pointless. I asked a simple question and you've weaseled around answering it every time. You sit here and pretend you're so special cause you're part of a bunch of big city hipsters that have casual sex. And most people talk to one another before fucking. You aren't unique just cause you hang out before officially dating, nor is that at all relevant to what I asked. You've also refused to address the links I provided that showed a correlation between a high partner counter and depre…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 06:28 PM
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Where do you suppose they are finding all these sex workers to ask these questions of? Again, plenty of the links I gave took statistics in countries where prostitution is legal and there's no need for sex workers to congregate anywhere. The stats still speak for themselves. And how about you check the methodology of those papers before assuming things? Neither of these are signs of dysfunction. Yes, they are. It's not that I'm incapable of monogamy You are. I'm actually very low sex drive lol, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 03:36 PM
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I was more thinking formally asking someone out where the point of approaching is specifically to secure a relationship Right, and do women do most of that in your social circles? Do women invite guys out on dates? Do women pay for their dinners, or movie tickets, or coffee, etc? A lot of the issues with reporting on sex work is that it's illegal No, not everywhere. Several countries in the links I've provided have legal sex work, like Switzerland. The stats there are the same, and sex work is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 02:52 PM
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Are you illiterate? Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 02:45 PM
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Is that why you deleted your own comment? Lol! I've been making a six figure salary for roughly 5 years now, and I'm not even in my 30's yet. Why do you think I know the answer to OP's question? Great amounts of personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 02:44 PM
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So like, Girl A might have a brunch sometime and invite Boy A You just said nobody initiates while giving me an example of the girl initiating. The conclusion isn’t that “women who have a lot of sex are unahppy”, or even “prostitutes are unhappy from all the sex they have”, so much as “women who are forced into prostitution are unhappy”. Women that went into prostitution by their own will or through peer pressure still had higher than average depression rates and suicide attempts. It sounds like…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 12:11 PM
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So you didn't even read the abstract? A few countries permit women to serve in combat roles, but their long term performance in these positions has not been reported. The incidences of overuse injuries and attrition of 85 male and 235 female recruits in a light infantry brigade was followed in a three-year prospective study. Females were shorter (162 cm, CI 161–163 cm) than males (174 cm, CI 173–176), had more body fat (18.9 kg, CI 18.2–19.6 kg) than males (12.6 kg, 11.3–13.8 kg), had lower V˙O2…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 11:20 AM
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Why would women get scared more than men when they play videogames?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 11:17 AM
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People within the social circles I run in tend to date each other after hanging out in groups/parties/brunches and building rapport until you just naturally pair off with a person you mesh with really well, and intimacy blossoms. So the majority of the people that initiate are women? Uh, I am an ex-sexworker, actually. Meaning what? So... gonna need to see a source on this one Sure, that stuff's easy to find. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1934508/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubm…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 11:01 AM
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I didn't skip over it. They're less fit for biological reasons, as the articles themselves say.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 10:44 AM
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He didn't say that. He said they need preferential treatment because they believe they're in danger at all times, but since he put the whole thing in quotation marks then I imagine he's implying that their feelings aren't valid and they're just being neurotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 10:35 AM
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I did read it. Feel free to enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 10:31 AM
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Yes, and some men love to fuck children, some love to fuck other men and some love to fuck grannies. There are exceptions and outliers everywhere, that doesn't mean there are no trends or averages you can determine. There's a reason you don't often see prostitutes/porn actresses being in happy marriages with children after they finish their "careers", and there's also a reason why guys who're virgins in their 30's or otherwise extremely sexually unsuccessful aren't mentally stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 10:27 AM
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And also their biological sex. Men are designed to chase, women are designed to be selective. When you don't fill this biological drive, you'll feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 10:07 AM
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No, you seem to have a problem understanding basic English. Fitness doesn't just refer to things you can achieve through exercise or nutrition. The article even mentions that women get injured more because they have weaker bones, higher fat percentage, weaker muscles, etc. And yet you still seem to be implying that it's simply a choice for women to be less fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 09:51 AM
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No fat girls. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 10:47 PM
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The bias. The guy/gal apparently got convicted by the same court and they felt it was unjustified.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/02/19 11:37 AM
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women are injured more because they are less fit hihihiih that's wrong because if women were more fit they'd get injured less Is this some bizarro world? Do you even hear what your argument is?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 11:37 AM
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Do you think that the only difference between men and women is a penis? In case you missed on basic biology, this is a comparison in muscle mass between the sexes. The articles I've posted also mentioned that the reason women get injured more is because they have weaker bones, higher body fat percentage, weaker muscles, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 02:35 AM
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No, not essentially. And I have 0 clue why you accept evolution as true, but you believe that sexual pairing is somehow not influenced by evolution. That makes no sense. High inhibition men won’t ever have this issue anyway. They’ll pair off with high inhibition women then complain 5 years later at her reluctance to spice up their sex life. Nah, I fucked plenty of sluts, but I'd never date one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 07:56 PM
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No, not "penis", gametes. There's a reason women produce something like 300 gametes their entire lives, whereas men can produce millions of sperm cells. It's also the reason why being a slut is easy, while being a stud is hard. Unless it’s virginity and no previous sex partners, then it was goodbye “sexual morals” from the very first time they fornicated. I disagree. I don't really demand a virgin, but if I hear some girl drank the piss of the entire football team, my mind wouldn't go to "oh wow…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 07:32 PM
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There's a difference between men with a high n count and women with a high n count. It also affects them differently psychologically. Also, having a threesome doesn’t make you a slut. "Loose sexual morals" also define a slut. Definitely what I would call a girl that got pounded by 2 guys at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 07:14 PM
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How is that hypocrisy? Saying you want to have sex with tons of sluts but you don't want to marry a slut is not hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 06:35 PM
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Have you ever heard a woman say "these two guys made love to me in my ass and mouth at the same time"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 03:52 PM
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No. Why would you marry a slut?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 03:36 PM
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Right, "IF". Women are less fit than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 11:21 AM
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How does it counter my point? My argument is that women are less fit and get injured more, and your counter is that if women were more fit they'd get injured less.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 10:07 AM
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Yea? Do you even know what that word means, or why are you pretending this is some "gotcha!" moment?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 01:59 AM
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So? Injuries don't only happen in hand to hand combat. For example, the army needed to change their training courses because the female soldiers would get injured too many times. This is a big problem for Israel and was part of a long and probably on-going debate regarding female fitness. You can see here an article talking about it. Here is a paper talking about how women get injured at much higher levels than men do during training, even though the training for female soldiers is much lighter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 03:33 PM
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Plenty of celebrities are known for being assholes and yet that never stops women from going after them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 01:51 PM
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Name a rich man without status or personality or looks that has trouble getting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 01:11 PM
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I am the rich man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 10:02 PM
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Women tend to lie so they'll tell you it's the latter. It isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 08:27 PM
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Yea, and? You think a culture should be designed over whether or not it makes you happy? It's not about being happy or even content, it's about being stable and prosperous. A society full of genetic dead-ends won't last for long.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 07:45 PM
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Because in general this has negative side-effects at a societal level. I'd argue however that women were more masculine prior to the industrial revolution, as they had pretty much no choice but to work hard all the time and lived in a harsher environment. It really does depend what you mean by it. If women being masculine makes them less likely to pursue relationships or have kids, then what's the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 07:17 PM
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What's your definition of "successful"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 05:50 PM
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Nah, your deleted comment accused me of not being able to read. You didn't "restate" anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 05:48 PM
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What snark? You copypasted your own comment for no reason and I asked why you did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 05:40 PM
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I was about to reply but your comment was deleted. Did you delete it yourself or did it get picked up as spam?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 05:29 PM
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That depends what you mean and what traits you're referring to. More self-confidence and discipline? Sure. But women putting themselves in danger at the same rates that men do? Terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 05:28 PM
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The increase of quality in life was to do with urbanization and technological improvements, not feminization. Your only example of a feminine society is the one that quickly succumbed to decadence, weakness and suicidal tendencies, and yet you see no correlation between the 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 09:29 PM
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Giving links to your sources doesn't make your comment any harder to read, since you can use the [ ] ( ) function. So that's not a very good excuse. My argument is that giving increasing social power to women balances the course of civilization and makes it more whole What does this mean? What are you referring to, specifically? Runaway masculinity and runaway femininity would both produce cultures inhospitable to humans. Terrible comparison. You have plenty of countries, kingdoms and empires th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 08:44 PM
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Are you having a stroke? Why are you repeating yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 08:41 PM
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That's a common sentiment, but it's irrelevant. I said "women", not "women of PPD". It gets talked about on PPD because most women IRL do care.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 08:22 PM
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So to sum up your comment: masculinity = bad colonialism and dirty industrialism femininity = morality and cleanliness Your arguments are also weak and it's the reason you've provided no real evidence to support any of them. The idea that anti-pollution laws or humanitarian laws were created or pushed for mainly by feminists is a joke, since feminism itself was pushed by mainly non-feminists. Other than that, your message seems to be that men that hate decadence should simply ignore it and roam …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 08:19 PM
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Then it's a good thing I haven't done that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 08:09 PM
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The difference is that a masculine society can survive despite its myriad of problems, whereas a feminine society can't, despite its myriad of positives.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 08:08 PM
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Women when a guy doesn't want to pay for her food.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 07:15 PM
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my god the PPD obsession with spending money on meals makes it feel like we are infested with Dickinsonian orphans who subsist on gruel With how hard women get butthurt over it, you'd think they live in caves and survive on moss.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 07:06 PM
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If you aren’t one of the people engaging in the Oppression Olympics But you just did.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 05:55 PM
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Imagine it affected a group you care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 05:29 PM
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I asked for examples and you've provided none. You haven't even explained what you mean in most cases. You sit here and get butthurt cause I asked for evidence for any of your claims, like I'm supposed to do your work for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 04:25 PM
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They're not lying about liking it, they're lying about the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 04:24 PM
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You have no reason to believe a communist would portray a communist regime in a positive light?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 04:00 PM
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Not even a little, in fact I challenge you to find that definition ANYWHERE outside RP. It means emotional awareness in oneself and others, acknowledgement, and self-sufficiency in using that information to accomplish tasks. Here's the wiki definition: Emotional intelligence (EI), Emotional leadership (EL), Emotional quotient (EQ) and Emotional Intelligence Quotient (EIQ), is the capability of individuals to recognize their own emotions and those of others, discern between different feelings and…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 03:58 PM
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Right, but that says nothing about how truthful they are/were.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 03:46 PM
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Of course it will depend on if you ask a communist or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 05:38 PM
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You just said it depends whether or not they're communists, not whether or not it's the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 05:29 PM
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And what are you basing this on?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 05:16 PM
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And you believe people in communist countries worked not because they would've been imprisoned for not doing it, but for the greater good?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 04:58 PM
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EQ Who denies this? EQ basically means empathy and kindness, and it was introduced almost entirely to offset the IQ advantage men have in other departments so that they can change the tests to show the average IQ is the same for men and women. divorce rape Not that common meaning what? divorced women statistically don't want to remarry or date seriously again Huh? What planet do you live on where divorced women remain abstinent after the divorce? false rape accusations, as in, they're not nearly…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 04:33 PM
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So you're a communist?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 04:30 PM
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From what I know of the Soviet Union is that very few people actually worked, and there was no greater good.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 04:12 PM
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Your initial argument is that Christian/Western culture is somehow unique in creating a good deeds => reward type of environment. You have given the Soviet Union as an example that doesn't fit that bill and you haven't properly explained yourself so far, so I'm just sitting here trying to figure out if you're shitposting or genuinely believe this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 02:53 PM
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Name one thing that has plenty of data and scientific evidence behind it and yet TRP denies it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 02:52 PM
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How is it pedantry? I wanted to know the state to know the laws, since I recall different states having some autonomy with slightly different laws. For speaking out against the government. Only the powerful got punished for speaking out against the government? This is your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 02:35 PM
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I thought you were referring to Odessa Oblast. You were talking just about a city when I specifically asked for a state?! Probably nothing because I'm a nobody with no influence. Oh, is that how the law was applied? Only the powerful got punished?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 02:24 PM
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That's a province, not a state. Regardless, what would've happened to you during communist times if you talked ill of communism or the government?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 02:00 PM
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I see. Which Soviet state?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 01:42 PM
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Oh, you lived in the Soviet Union?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 01:38 PM
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Then post some stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 01:11 PM
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"Don't misbehave or Stalin will kill you! Finish your chores, get your allowance (to spend on what you want, usually bread and milk)! Do well in school and you can work in the factory!" What's the difference? Other than the severity, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 01:10 PM
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Name some of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 08:17 AM
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It wouldn't matter anyway. Let's just agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 07:51 AM
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Who said anything about cleaning up rooms?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 07:50 AM
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Well, you're either lying or you simply happen to know outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 07:49 AM
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I have known several women IRL that said stuff like this, and not 1 of them was actually honest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 10:23 PM
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You only say this because you have no chance of actually leaving that bubble, so it's fine to be satisfied with the only thing you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 10:15 PM
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You can choose to be like that, whatever. You made an argument and you cannot give 1 example that supports it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 10:11 PM
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We're not talking about media whoring, we're talking about being offered a position in fucking royalty. Being some instagram slut and being an actual princess are a bit different. And it's not like you actually need to show your face everywhere if you're in a royal family, since not all of them are like the UK ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 10:10 PM
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And how many of those girls were fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 08:30 PM
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People that don't follow the rules get sent to the gulag, so I have no clue what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 08:29 PM
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I'm sure...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 08:28 PM
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This is the same type of coping guys with small dicks use to say how they wouldn't want larger dicks cause they'd be inconvenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 07:19 PM
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But it's still "follow the rules, get what you want". You just get less in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 07:17 PM
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Soviet communists tell you to not follow the rules?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 07:13 PM
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No offense, but all women more or less say this stuff. I doubt you'd have the same reaction to 2 identical guys in sense of looks and charm, but one of them being the prince of Spain.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 07:12 PM
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Give me an example of non-American/non-Christian culture that isn't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 07:11 PM
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Why are you demanding data from me to disprove your assertions when you've provided none to support them in the first place? It's simple logic anyway. Young women get tons of attention, so they don't really need to approach. Older women don't get that much attention, so they approach more. The whole "cougar" stereotype is older than you are for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 06:52 PM
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Yea, well, let me know when 21 yo's go around hitting guys up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 06:34 PM
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Yea, but the majority of you are in your 40's.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 06:14 PM
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But how can you determine any percentage when you don't know the total number? I mean, you can't even give a ballpark figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 11:46 AM
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I understand that it's your personal experience, I just don't understand how you came to this conclusion. On one hand you apparently didn't make a list so you don't even know how many people you've slept with, on the other you have kept a list and you know you slept with 50/50 conservatives/liberals and that liberals were better. So which one is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 11:42 AM
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Well, apparently you do. Not only do you keep scores and write charts up on the quality of sex, you also keep a list of all of your sexual partners' political inclinations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 11:28 AM
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So what? What are you even talking about at this point?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 01:48 AM
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That's fair, but their sexual attractiveness still drops much quicker than men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 01:47 AM
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How many times did it happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 01:45 AM
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Who said anything about married couples practicing abstinence? I said women, married or otherwise. Honestly, do you even understand what point you're making anymore? You said women didn't have a choice, and now you're saying they did and they chose to simply give up their rights and freedoms for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 06:22 PM
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Interesting. Why did you sleep with conservatives if you think they're not as good in bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 06:20 PM
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And if you go drink pond water then you can expect to get sick. So what? Something being predictable doesn't make it good.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 05:42 PM
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Lmao! I'm sure that's what women think, but it doesn't make it true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 05:41 PM
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I'm completely okay with promiscuous women Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 05:29 PM
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But they did, because they had abstinence. And marriage was not forced on women, women chose it for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 05:26 PM
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The biggest threat to women how? I don't agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 05:25 PM
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Predictable counter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 05:24 PM
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As a general rule of thumb - progressive and liberal men make much better lovers in my experience. So how many progressive men have you slept with and how many conservatives?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 05:23 PM
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Yea, they don't understand that if men were such a giant threat to women, and women were more likely to survive without men, then evolution wouldn't have promoted that behavior. However, people with this mentality very often don't understand evolution and base their entire mindset on a neoliberal/marxist outlook on life, where negative manly behavior is a completely new concept invented by capitalistic societies, so they dream of a past where egalitarianism was enforced. That past never existed,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 04:37 PM
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Yea, that's my point. This person thinks that no men = living in the city built by men, maintained by men and surrounded by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 04:20 PM
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Your job is to support your arguments with evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 04:19 PM
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I already agreed with you that men are more dangerous than women, but that they're more dangerous to other men than to women. You seem to have this mentality that men are literal demons and women are princesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 04:19 PM
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I'm not gonna do your job for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 04:17 PM
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Look up what where?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 04:09 PM
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You put it that way because you realized that you're wrong. You can't say that women are safer without men while also believing women are safer in a society created by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 04:08 PM
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Your initial argument was that "women didn't have a handle on their fertility" and you then went on to imply that women that were married were somehow forced to give birth or whatever. When I pointed out that nobody was forcing women to go and have sex or get married, you said that women CHOSE to do it out of their own free will because it was socially and financially advantageous. So which one is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 04:07 PM
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Provide statistics that make you think men have it better than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 03:52 PM
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Lmao! So a woman is safer living in the middle of nowhere forest/savanna/desert than in a city?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 03:51 PM
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Yes, that's what I'm saying, and no I wouldn't want to be a woman. Not because it's more dangerous, but because it's more boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 03:41 PM
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You mean, out in the wild?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 03:40 PM
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And the same idea applied to men, so again, what's the issue? Women were not forced to marry, they married out of their own free will for financial reasons, like you just mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 03:32 PM
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Sure, give me any place on the planet where men live longer, and men commit suicide less often, and most homeless people aren't men, and men don't do most of the manual labor, and men don't make most of the work-related deaths, and men don't make most of the casualties of war, and men don't receive less help from the government, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 03:29 PM
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How am I inherently enforcing anything? Men are more dangerous, that's a fact. Men and women evolved differently and aggressive behavior was promoted in men more than in women. That doesn't mean that other men aren't the primary victims. A lion is more dangerous than a lioness, yet a lioness is safer around a lion than another male lion is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 03:27 PM
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All I said is that women didn't have any obligation to get married in an urban environment, and you just derailed the conversation to throw a pity party about how hard women were having it cause they had to do manual labor. I didn't imply women were somehow living in paradise, I said women had no obligation to get married in most cases. Just because many women got married to improve their finances doesn't mean that you're correct in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 03:14 PM
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So you take it to mean there's no overlap and so dismiss all comparisons? You can safely say that a gender has it on AVERAGE better while admitting there is an overlap.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 03:12 PM
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Men are mostly dangerous to other men, not women. Most victims of crime are men. That was his point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 03:07 PM
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He's referring to fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 03:00 PM
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Are you implying that women did more manual labor than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 02:59 PM
3

Are the male diamonds heavily outnumbered by the female diamonds?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 02:50 PM
1

You're being very vague. You're telling me you weren't taken seriously because you "look" overtly feminine? What does that even mean? And what's your job exactly? An editor?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 02:34 PM
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Nah, wrong. You have absolutely 0 knowledge of history. The urban environment was much different from the rural one, because women were often times on their own. Plenty of country girls would move to the city for work with no parent supervision. Nobody forced them to marry. Nobody forced them to be in a relationship and nobody banned them from working for a living.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 02:32 PM
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So you understand that it's your behavior and not your gender. So what's the issue then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 11:28 AM
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Expert on what topic? Bullshitting desperate women out of their money? I'm sure he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 01:59 PM
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This is the equivalent of crystal healing and speaking to the dead, but it's targeted at women desperate to have kids instead. Just predatory behavior. Notice how he didn't give any real concrete advice or statistics and just filled the video with bullshit vagueries and finishes it with self-promotion and advertisement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 01:52 PM
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Yea, and that applies in cases where women were already married with kids. I'm asking why women didn't keep their legs closed or simply didn't get married. In rural areas that might've been hard, but in urban ones nobody forced you to get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 01:37 PM
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You don't even fucking know what a nuclear family means and you sit here and argue about it. Just because grandparents can help raise the kids that doesn't make it a non-nuclear family.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 01:35 PM
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Well, alright. Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 01:33 PM
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But the point stands that the best type of relationships to have when it comes to taking care of children is the traditional nuclear family. While some instances of this end up bad, this is statistically guaranteed for everything. So both "facts" you have outlined in the OP are actually wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 10:17 AM
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My point is that since the overwhelming majority of custody battles end up favoring the mother anyway because of how the law is designed and the average man knows that, he'll usually find it pointless to spend tens of thousands of dollars trying to fight it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 09:33 AM
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Here's a paper a outlining how the introduction of Christianity and industry influenced family structures in the west That talks about the effects of industrialization and the modern idea that marriage should be about romance and love, not finances. That doesn't state that the nuclear family is somehow a new thing. Here's an extensive paper on family break-down (going from nuclear to non nuclear). That extensive paper disagrees with you and it makes me think you either haven't read it, or I'm no…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 09:31 AM
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Do you feel oppressed at your job?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 09:13 AM
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The roots of feminism were actually in the 19th century but until women could get a handle on their fertility, they were kind of spinning their wheels. Why didn't they figure out that they can close their legs?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 09:03 AM
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Yea, hot men and big dicks are pretty good, but you know what's better? KNALEDGE!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 08:37 AM
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The first one being that the nuclear family has only been around for a brief part of human history in the west. No, the "nuclear family" has been the staple of practically every post-agricultural revolution sedentary community. When comparing intact families where both parents argued, to non intact and blended families that lacked such conflict- the latter is far healthier for the child. What are you talking about? What do you mean "blended families"? And post the stats on this. TL/DR: having an…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 08:29 AM
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I don't think you know the definition of "deadbeat". In 2012, the U.S. Census Bureau reported that only 28.8% of custodial fathers received child support either through an agreement or award; while 53.4% of custodial mothers received support. You would have some leg to stand on if the custody battles that did end up in court gave men custody in 50% of cases, but we both know that's nowhere near the truth. The law is specifically designed to favor women, so your argument feels disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 08:19 AM
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Maybe...your interpretation of my ‘implication’ might be way off? I doubt it, but I'll reiterate that it wasn't what I meant, just to be sure. Full custody for the mum is hardly ever granted unless the dad agrees. And this makes the fathers deadbeats?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 11:14 PM
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How can my questions be a strawman? I’m just trying to understand where you’re coming from. Because your implication is that I meant any of those things. Maybe you’re projecting a bit then. I used to have frequent enjoyable casual sex and now I’m committed not because of boredom but but a better alternative came along. I'm not saying that you can't have long term relationships that are worthwhile, I'm saying that since you have no real guarantee any of them will amount to anything, and people ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 10:40 PM
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I don't know why you're making all of these claims. I wasn't implying that people don't hang out, spend money or have kids with their partners anymore. This seems like a weird strawman. Are you speaking from a lot of experience? Well, I used to be a bit of a man-whore, I guess. I fucked a lot of women and I couldn't even imagine getting anything out of any of them other than sex. I'm in a relationship now almost purely because I don't like chasing sluts as much. Prevention is better than trying …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 10:16 PM
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Potential gain from the relationship. Meaning what it gives you, socially, financially, biologically(children wise), etc. Modern relationships don't seem to give you much of either of these things. And by stability I mean how stable they are. It's not simply about longevity, because you can have a very stable relationship that lasts less than a very tumultuous one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 09:45 PM
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and you're butthurt because women don't approach you and make your job EASIER for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 09:42 PM
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if they had any choice at all in the matter, they selected from the limited number of candidates who were made available to them Then how come sexual selection affects men more than women? although I couldn't see how it would be possible to study such a thing effectively for the reasons I outlined later. Then why not bother reading the papers I gave you to clear that up? What, so you can launch an ad hominem attack? I want to see if your feeling of superiority is warranted. Sure, but how else wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 05:04 PM
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Stability and potential gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 04:59 PM
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You did say that. You said you don't care if your daughters sleep with 100 dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 12:58 PM
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Again, coercion and not rape was likely the primary driver for most of human history. In either case, the woman isn't choosing her mate, but a woman in an arranged marriage will almost certainly produce more offspring that one who is the subject of the occasional attack. Then female sexual selection should not exist, or should be minimal. Biology disagrees. Also, when studying primitive tribes that still exist today, your assertion is still proven to be incorrect. I said I wasn't going to bother…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 12:28 PM
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We had a conversation a long time ago, and you said that you don't care how many guys your daughters have sex with, or if they become prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 12:23 PM
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Are you joking? Genuinely can't tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 12:22 PM
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just that I see no evidence for a culture in which rape didn't exist. But were a relevant amount of children born through those rapes? I'm not going to bother looking up the link again, but it appeared to be typical soft-science blah-blah. If you can't bother to click on the link, then why did you ask for them in the first place? I'm saying that I wonder whether these 'scientists' ever watch real, live humans interact. I'm wondering the same about you. I'm not sure the maths are all that helpful…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 07:27 PM
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In today's climate relationships are almost completely meaningless. If the cultural norm is shit, don't abide by it. And I'm not saying "3 months" as some exact date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 06:57 PM
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Increasing the likelihood of commitment naturally increases the likelihood of both bad commitments and good commitments. That's just basic math.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 06:52 PM
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Ok, and? I already told you this isn't a guarantee you'll find Prince Charming. Dating and reality don't work this way. The only thing you can do is increase the likelihood that a guy will commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 06:41 PM
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I suspect so Really? And this was the majority of women? Are you saying that rape is a very good male mating strategy? All I see there is a lot of speculation. How is that speculation? It bases its conclusions on statistics. That was was a little more well-thought-out, but still made me wonder if any of these researchers ever spent an evening at a typical singles bar? Oh? You're saying that men are more selective than women at singles bars? On what planet? I was a STEM major, lol. So am I. if so…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 06:39 PM
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And how is that contradictory to what I said? I didn't say they should only care about how long a guy waits, but they should still care.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 06:34 PM
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And while you may filtering out one type of bad fit you’ll be increasing the likelihood of encountering a different type of asshole. Filtering out one type doesn't mean you somehow can't filter out another. This seems like a weird mentality. I agree that it’s best to wait until you feel comfortable enough to have sex with them, but some arbitrary timeline because you’re afraid of being ditched right after is dumb AF. It's not about how comfortable you are, it's about how serious the guy is about…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 06:24 PM
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What? It isn't illegal to train women.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/01/19 06:20 PM
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How do you know he initiated?
/r/PussyPassDenied30/01/19 06:20 PM
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IME those ‘take what I can get’ types are the most likely to cheat and/or let the dissatisfaction of them settling come out during the relationship and make terrible boyfriends. I don't know what you're talking about. You're telling me that the only reason a guy has to date for months without sex is because he's completely desperate? That's a pretty sad way to look at it. I agree but low confidence, high pride men are not exactly rare. I again don't know what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 06:14 PM
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It wasn't, the title is inaccurate. She molested and assaulted a 13 yo boy several times and attempted to rape him. The video is biased since it edited out the relevant info. Read the description to understand why.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/01/19 06:12 PM
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He will if that’s the only woman he thinks he has a shot with. Then he'll probably stick around afterwards. I don't know what guys you know of, but having sex is pretty much purely a matter of confidence. Women are really easy nowadays, and you can always buy a hooker.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 05:51 PM
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A guy that only cares about sex won't usually date a woman for months just to get laid once. The "players" usually go with several women at the same time, and when they realize a woman is being difficult, he just drops her and moves on with the others. How is weeding these guys out "short sighted"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 05:35 PM
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Yea, but you also said that you don't care if your daughters become prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 05:28 PM
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if he likes you, it won't fucking matter when you have sex The point is that how easy you are is relevant when it comes to whether or not a guy likes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 05:26 PM
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There is no guarantee, but it's a way for you to weed out most people that aren't interested in anything other than sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 05:23 PM
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but you have to keep in mind this may not have been voluntarily. Oh, really? Were women raped for the entirety of human history? Nowadays, I'd say it's hard to tell from casual observation which gender struggles more. Do you think biological imperatives are dependent on culture? You can find plenty of scientific articles that talk about it, so I'm not sure why you want me to spoonfeed you. Here is one example: In sum, sexual selection has probably been weaker in women than in men And you can see…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 04:24 PM
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"Hans" is the stereotypical German name.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/01/19 12:20 AM
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Who cares what they call them? Is this a joke? It shows you their mentality. Do you think that when an incel calls women "femoids", that isn't a sign of disrespect? See, this whole exchange with you has only confirmed what I was thinking before. People who get mad are the people who doubt. This is just a silly kafka trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 08:56 PM
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Bro, they call people with children "breeders". Who are you trying to bullshit here? And I'm not saying they're trying to take anyone's rights away, I'm just saying that they're purposefully confrontational and offensive. Don't conflate the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 08:43 PM
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I doubt you've ever been on r/childfree if you think it's some innocent circlejerk where people just want to be reassured that they made the right decision. It's a bit hard to have an ideology that believes parents are basically suckers for having kids, while also not being malicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 08:16 PM
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So your stance is that sexual dimorphism in the human species is purely incidental and there is no higher sexual selection pressure put on men, despite this being a well known fact in other sexual animals due to an increased energy expenditure for females to produce their gametes in comparison to males?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 08:10 PM
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The entire purpose of the childfree movement/ideology is to list the negatives of having children and to make the point that they're simply not worth putting up with. A parent will obviously disagree since they love their children. It's not a matter of identity or inner wounds. If someone attacks something or someone you hold dear, then you'll react negatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 08:04 PM
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Being offensive and being factual are not inter-dependent. I can say a lot of false things about you that will offend you. In general, people care about their kids and act protective. How is this a surprise to you, or evidence that you're secretly right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 07:53 PM
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So you're telling me that when you tell parents that their children are parasites and mistakes they get angry and emotional? Woah!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 07:49 PM
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So you're taking back what you said before?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 05:05 PM
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Then how do you know they're the same? The average for men and women that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 03:46 PM
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How the fuck can there be no average? Yea, I know it varies by age group and individual desires and backgrounds and culture and whatever. Just sum all of that up and tell me the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 02:44 PM
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Feel free to provide examples. This sort of "women are just as sexual as men hihihihi :D" type of mentality is more common on feminist subs that believe sexuality is a form of empowerment. I've never seen anyone say something like that outside of those subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 02:31 PM
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On average.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 02:28 PM
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But the majority of men already know this. What are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 06:30 AM
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I have actually never seen this from a man on this sub. Pretty sure that men having higher sex drives is an accepted belief and well-known fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 06:17 AM
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Can you explain what you mean a bit further? I can't decipher your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 06:05 AM
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Is it easier to fulfill the requirements needed to be attractive to women than the ones needed to be attractive to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 05:32 AM
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You talk like a politician. So tiring. Why can't you give a straight answer? Tell me, ON AVERAGE, what do women select men based on? What are the characteristics that men are selected by the average woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 03:59 PM
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What do women mainly select men based on?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 02:13 PM
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I understand that, and I also think that it's also a conscious female decision because it's beneficial to be viewed as the victim, like you said. I think biology is more responsible for it than modern culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 09:46 AM
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You're actually correct. I am in a comment chain right now in this sub where a woman claims that women and men have it just as easy in the dating market. It's absolutely insane how so many women completely lack any self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 07:49 AM
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Oh, really? So getting a career, wealth, social position, social skills and the courage to approach constantly is just as hard as wearing makeup?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 06:10 AM
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Men don't care about women's standards despite evidence to the contrary both here and in rl? It will remain a mystery as I'm in travel hell. Men don't care about women's standards when it comes to a dating environment. Men settle way easier than women, they aren't as picky, nor as interested in why the woman settled with them. How many men have you heard ask themselves "why does she love me"? Few, if any, I'm sure. I told you the kind I know want more than that. They create an environment where …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 05:50 AM
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What the fuck are you talking about? I didn't ask you how easy it is to find true love, I asked you who has it easier when it comes to dating, men or women? As in, who has an easier time attracting the opposite gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 05:46 AM
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On average, who do you think has it easier? Men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 04:24 PM
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Wait, so you believe dating is easier for men than for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 02:59 PM
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No, but if you complain about people wanting participation trophies, then your target audience would be mainly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 02:26 PM
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I'm just messing with you, Hans. I want your country to do well, but you have massive problems with immigrant crime and whenever I talk to one of your compatriots you seem to be very willing to try and ignore that it's happening. I feel bad for you and wish you'd grow some balls.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/01/19 01:16 PM
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I'm not sure what you're trying to say. PPD is pretty much designed to talk about the sexual and dating game, so we talk about standards. When it comes to dating, however, men don't care. They just want direct and simple things, not to fulfill a woman's fantasy of a perfect boyfriend. The men I know want more from life than that, and create an environment conducive to getting what they want. They want it in exchange for commitment much less marriage rofl. Something something frame. Genuinely, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 01:13 PM
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It doesn't change the fact that you said putting on makeup or getting plastic surgery is just as or more difficult than being a man and having to acquire social skills, money, status and physical form.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 01:10 PM
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I don't speak Turkish.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/01/19 01:09 PM
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You don't need to rationalize an exception away because TRP isn't about how every human being is factory made to be identical. I don't know what men you know, but the average man wants his dick sucked a bit more, a nice meal once in a while and for his wife not to hate him or lie that he's the father to her bastard kid. No man really gives a shit about a woman's "standards".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 01:30 AM
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The norm is for rich women to marry richer men, and for poor women to marry less poorer men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 01:26 AM
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Exceptions exist, but it's not the norm for rich women to marry poor men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 10:44 PM
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I'm not saying you want this to happen, I'm saying that your prediction that men will simply take being extremely sexually frustrated and romantically unsuccessful more or less in stride and decide to keep working their 9 to 5 or spend 8 years in school just to go back home and play their videogames is a fantasy. Guys aren't like women. There's a reason why boys tend to do way worse in single mother households compared to girls, and it's because they absolutely need discipline and a purpose in l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 10:09 PM
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You replied to the wrong comment, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 10:01 PM
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You have a very strange view of it, then. I really doubt any hard labor will be done by perpetual virgins. And I also doubt that any guy that is depressed or has borderline 0 romantic prospects will have the motivation to go through 5-10 years of schooling to do any job requiring high education. Look up "herbivore men" to see what an economic downside they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 09:58 PM
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How exactly will it survive? They won't produce any children, nor will they be a huge benefit to society. No society can survive its own males abandoning it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 07:53 PM
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I don't think society can survive having a huge amount of its male population just retreat into solitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 07:39 PM
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Probably more traditional, since that system is more stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 07:34 PM
1

Yea, but having a hobby won't really get you laid by itself either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 06:49 PM
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So you're saying that women compete with " toxic silicon implants; have liposuction, cosmetic surgery, even gastric bypasses, Brazilian wax, hair coloring, gym memberships, expensive moisturizing and anti-aging skin care products", but guys compete with T-shirts?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 05:42 PM
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Nothing unstable can last for very long. I doubt the modern cultural trends will last to 2050. In fact, I doubt the Western world will.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 05:39 PM
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I don't see how. It's very easy now to avoid most social contact and stay at home a lot more with videogames, movies, shows, porn, etc. It's easier to be a shut-in now and way more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 05:36 PM
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I guess it would depend. If you only got interested in a hobby and devoted yourself to it only because a woman you were attracted to was and you want her attention, I'd definitely call you a pussy. But if you're simply interested in rock climbing and a woman likes you for it, then it's neither alpha nor beta. It's just something in common you have with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 05:34 PM
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Than in the past. Obviously when gender norms are more enforced and men are pushed more and punished more for failure, they'll develop more mental resilience than in a society where they can more easily avoid social contact or any societal pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 05:30 PM
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Wearing makeup, what a sign of courage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 05:28 PM
3

How is his message not clear enough? His argument is that men are more effeminate and this hurts their chances of getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 05:24 PM
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It shows you that plenty of women seem to not be sexually satisfied. But you can't come to any conclusion unless you look up how many men aren't sexually satisfied. I really doubt that men on average have more fulfilling sex lives than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 05:21 PM
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It's a bit of a meaningless stat if you can't compare it to the male rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 05:13 PM
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The Wikipedia entry for In-Group Favourisitm/Bias - Gender Differences lists 3 examples (studies) on the topic, 2 of which show greater male in-group bias. What are you talking about? The subsection for "gender differences" gives 4 examples, not 3. The studies also showed that men and women both have in-group biases in different amounts and for different groups. Study 1 This shows that men are more likely to participate in inter-group conflicts. Study 2 This shows men are more likely to ethnical…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 04:28 PM
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Women have it easier on the dating market, so obviously they'd be less effected. I doubt anybody denies this, so what's there to really discuss?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 01:09 PM
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that appears to be entirely about female in-group bias. Not about female vs male propensity to "individualism." Your in-group bias shows how individualistic you are. A stronger in-group bias means you're less individualistic. Is this really your best argument? Your rebuke of the first paper is even worse, since you simply select the author's notes and not their data. I also see you've provided no paper to counter the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 01:05 PM
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Men and women don't employ the same evolutionary strategies. It's a good strategy for a woman to fall in line to be safe, it's not as good for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 01:01 PM
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Do you honestly think that the only case in the infantry where you actually need strength is just carrying someone? Do you think women have the same endurance and stamina as men? Same mental resilience? Same focus? You think it's just as simple as shooting a gun, and as long as you can do that and you don't have to carry someone's body then you'll make an effective soldier?
/r/PussyPassDenied25/01/19 12:29 PM
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Germany isn't really well known for defending German women against immigrant men.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/01/19 02:36 PM
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I'm all for women being on the front line, but give them their own units. So they can get completely wiped out instead?
/r/PussyPassDenied24/01/19 01:39 PM
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OP didn't say "players", OP said "TRP hookup tactics", which doesn't really tell me much about the guy. That was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 11:41 AM
1

What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 02:20 AM
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I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 11:47 PM
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It's weird how you can tell which poster is a woman by how emotional and passive-aggressive they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 11:35 PM
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I don't understand. What tactics?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 11:33 PM
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The "go to college, get a job, get married, have kids" cultural narrative is going away. The Romans thought they'd last forever too. Don't take modern cultural trends for granted and assume they're permanent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 09:05 PM
1

Is racism a socio-economic form of organization?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 07:37 PM
1

So since all of these things have happened already in the West, does that mean that the patriarchy is dead?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 07:08 PM
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Tell me exactly what practical way you have of eliminating the patriarchy with 0 misandry or male discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 06:26 PM
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So the patriarchy stopped existing when women got the right to vote? Tell me exactly what practical way you have of eliminating the patriarchy with 0 misandry or male discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 05:51 PM
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Recognizing that historically white Christians haven't done good by others doesn't mean white Christians = bad. It means they've done bad things. Things you seem to have a problem accepting. I have no issue accepting anything. We've been over this already. People bringing up historically bad behavior doesn't mean that white.men are the cause of the world's problems and need to be eljminated. No, but you definitely think that. You're pushing an agenda. By disagreeing with you?
/r/PussyPassDenied22/01/19 05:34 PM
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By its loosest definition, patriarchy is any system in which men hold most of the power. So saying that you're against the patriarchy means you're against men holding power. How is that not at attack on men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 05:14 PM
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Those aren't the only options. What other options are there? And coincidentally the only choices you've provided end up with white people=bad. Yes, which is what I'm disagreeing with you on. I'm not oppressing white people by pointing out the fact that white Christians haven't done good by others. But why point it out at all? It's a somewhat meaningless statement. Attempting to make that argument feeds an oppression fantasy. Your argument is very strange, and you seem to not understand me at all…
/r/PussyPassDenied22/01/19 04:04 PM
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The patriarchy isn't just men, because the patriarchy has no gender. Is this a joke? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarchy https://www.dictionary.com/browse/patriarchy That's black and white thinking, but not an actual argument, because women are also part of society. Being a part of society is irrelevant, and has no bearing on whether or not a patriarchy exists. Do you even know what you're arguing for or against at this point? You don't even know what a patriarchy is and yet you sit here an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 03:58 PM
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That's exactly the analogy to toxic masculinity. No, it isn't. Because the responsibility still falls on men. It's the "patriarchy" that makes men and women act this way, and the patriarchy is basically men. The aim of getting rid of toxic masculinity is to free men from the shackles of patriarchy. Patriarchy which is what? Male leadership? That's the same type of liberation that the Soviets did. And "men are oppressed and forced to act a certain way" is also the point of toxic masculinity. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 11:13 PM
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They make it pretty clear that they've focused on toxic femininity (read: harmful standards and expectations that were placed on women by society) for the last couple of decades. That's not at all toxic femininity. That's the same "we're oppressed by the patriarchy" shit you read on tumblr. That's not saying that "femininity itself has terrible side-effects", it's saying "we women are oppressed and forced to act a certain way". That's black and white thinking as well. Huh? How is that a reply to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 10:43 PM
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That's black and white thinking, but not an actual argument. So you're telling me they have an article on toxic femininity? We aren't saying that men are innately toxic. We are saying that it's harmful that we teach them that vegetables are gay. The implication that men are only masculine because society teaches them that, and that innately men are no different from women and should be treated exactly like women is at best a bad joke. Again, there's no practical difference between saying that me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 10:20 PM
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They're shitting on men because they view them as nothing more than deficient women. Playing semantic games like "oh, it's just societal roles, not innate biological characteristics" makes little practical difference. The people that always blame masculinity for why men are doing so poorly can never account for the fact that men tend to commit suicide, suffer from depression, be alienated, lonely, lack ambition and etc. in more effeminate societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 07:24 PM
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No, it's not about liking or not liking it. RP is generally unpleasant to learn about. It's about whether it's the norm or obfuscated by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 06:04 PM
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So every fat blue haired feminist is redpilled? Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 06:02 PM
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He didn't link an apa article, he linked a google search that shows not only the APA but several other publications all talk about how terrible masculinity is. Shitting on innate male behavior is shitting on men, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 06:00 PM
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Who are you quoting?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 05:56 PM
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Well, that's not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 11:55 PM
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Then what's the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 11:49 PM
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It is a value judgment if OP stands for feminism and leftism, which I assume they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 11:49 PM
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Your argument makes no sense. If being part of the "redpill" only means you have 1 slight thing in common, which is fighting against something that OP itself claimed it was vague, then why is being part of feminism or leftism implying that you identify with all of their characteristics?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 11:48 PM
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From what I remember from those subreddit surveys, it's actually slightly majority blue. So I'm afraid you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 11:46 PM
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I'm pointing to a double standard, that's all. If you believe that feminists are all so different to one another that you simply can group them up, but you believe that redpillers are pretty much all the same and it's easy to describe them, then you're a hypocrite. Either labels are complex and you shouldn't simplify them, or they aren't complex in which case you shouldn't pretend they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 09:59 PM
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You can't play the "labels are bad" card after you labeled tons of people already. Which is that the OP did.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 09:52 PM
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I think you're just confused, to be honest. I definitely don't think that the dark side of women is that they want the best man they can get. And speaking of online harassment or bullying, I'd remind you that that only became a problem when women started being victims as well. Even now when the majority of the victims are men, you still have female only campaigns against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 09:50 PM
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Wow! Messages from men? That's against the law!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 09:32 PM
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I provided some evidence, so that outweighs your baseless opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 09:01 PM
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Yes, really. Who's more often the victim of criminal men? Other men, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 09:00 PM
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You definitely favor one side and you definitely described one side better than the other. You not claiming you're a leftist doesn't mean that the label doesn't fit for you anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:59 PM
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I'm referring to your comments in this comment section.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:31 PM
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How is "looks down on the strong that take advantage" a criticism? That's a praise, not criticism. You only criticized RP. unless you want me to start quoting song lyrics for you again? that was really fun for me actually I didn't recognize your username. Do whatever, my liberal arts college graduate friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:25 PM
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Huh? What type of question is that? Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:24 PM
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That's rich. Dating guys makes you know more than guys themselves. According to this survey, only 5% of guys identify as an "anti-feminist". According to this only 7 percent believe women have more advantages than men in society. Definitely not redpilled, and definitely nowhere near the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:23 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean. I thought you said you were redpilled, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:03 PM
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Yea, I do. Surely some survey or something precise we can point to. Otherwise it's just my word against yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:03 PM
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No, you care about status, money, influence and dependability. I don't see how media tells you that men don't care about looks, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:56 PM
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When you can strawman your opposition to always be immoral, then you'll always be moral. Nice tactic, but cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:53 PM
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I'm telling you to stop throwing tantrums.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:52 PM
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Not really. I doubt every one of them agrees on what nationalism is, what socio-economic policy the society should adopt, or what people even are white.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:51 PM
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I'm dumbfounded. So asking for statistics is a lack of counter argument? My only argument is therefore to agree with you? Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:50 PM
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Humor? You're telling me that this response: I did explain it several times though so I'm not sure which part you don't understand. was humorous to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:49 PM
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OP did.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:48 PM
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How am I proving her point? I'm calling her out on her double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:47 PM
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The same logic can be applied to people that are against "leftists" and "feminists", and yet OP believes they can safely describe those groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:28 PM
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You seem like a classical liberal. I have no clue what point you're making.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:27 PM
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Anyway, believing in any culturally accepted negative stereotype of women doesn't make you redpilled, even if it might make you correct. Keep your emotions in check and read my full comments before replying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:26 PM
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I need some stats on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:25 PM
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If your position is that you cannot classify anyone as leftist or feminist since the definitions are not objective, you then have to disagree with OP since they implied they can safely describe several groups of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:14 PM
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Christ, you're exasperating. The beliefs within TRP ARE NOT FUCKING MAINSTREAM IN THE WEST. Them being older than Reddit or modern culture is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:13 PM
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So a sub based on mainstream ideology is quarantined and only followed by a small percentage of the userbase. Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:06 PM
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No, realizing that makes you wrong. Looking down on men is bluepilled, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:05 PM
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Why rely on me for that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:04 PM
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I'd guess a follower of feminism and leftist ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:04 PM
2

I can do what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:03 PM
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You: look at how many people are subbed to TRP. It is mainstream sentiment. Also you: You should be aware that subs aren't proportionate to the amount of people who believe a sentiment. Lol! Also, TRP isn't really a big sub. Not even top 100 on this website.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:02 PM
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How many are subbed percentage wise of the population?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:49 PM
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And there's another dry response... Exactly how am I suppose to react to the equivalent of "nuh uh"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:49 PM
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"the red pill" is not "redpill". Alright. You're just shitposting now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:44 PM
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Well if everyone is all just so fluid and labels are just so out-dated, then how come OP can make all of these value judgments in regards to these labels?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:43 PM
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That wasn't the shut down. You shut it down when I told you that I don't understand your point, and you replied with "I don't care".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:42 PM
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Redpill is basically any supposedly true idea that is not mainstream and hidden by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:41 PM
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According to you, they can all be safely described as being against leftists and feminists, even though apparently neither leftist nor feminist has any real definition, and apparently now neither do redpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:39 PM
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I'm not forcing you to reply to me, seriously. I wanted to have a conversation. If you don't feel like it, then move on. I really don't care about how emotional you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:39 PM
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"Definition" and "in-depth description" are 2 different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:38 PM
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You're just rambling now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:37 PM
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I think you're just refusing to describe yourself in any way because that might mean you're 1. a hypocrite and 2. you'll have to actually defend something. Your double-standards are quite obvious as well. What makes you think that "Involuntary celibates, white nationalists, Red Pill users etc." are all so alike to one another that they can all be safely described, but feminists and leftists can't?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:34 PM
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Nah, this is just bluepill. This might be a redpill in Saudi Arabia, but not in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:32 PM
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Yea, I read this comment about 3 times and I still have 0 clue what you mean. Women are trashed talked 24/7 too, so by your theory, redpill AHAs doesn't exist for men either. They're trash talked by mainstream culture? How? Anyway, believing in any culturally accepted negative stereotype of women doesn't make you redpilled, even if it might make you correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:30 PM
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A scientist is someone that conducts scientific research, usually by having an accredited degree. I don't think anyone would consider the average hobo that makes basic drugs out of soap and baking powder a scientist just because he does basic chemistry. So your example is a bit off, I'm afraid. Although I think you already knew that, which is why you refused to answer if you look at yourself as a leftist or feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:27 PM
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No, it isn't. A woman facing sexual harassment, whatever that may mean is not suddenly getting redpilled, because society wasn't telling her up to that point that men are all safe and kind and docile and nice and gentle. Society has been telling her men are rapist sexists. You even prove my own point with this quote: Even if you don't believe the 1/4 sexual assault stat, you have to realize most women have been sexually harassed at least once in their lives from as early as prepubescence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:25 PM
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So your stance is that the "left" and "feminism" aren't real?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:21 PM
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Sexual harassment ranges from a guy trying to cum on your hair on the street and a guy saying you have nice tits. It's a bit too vague to mean much. Men see the dark side of other men much more often and much harsher than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:20 PM
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But he wasn't talking about that. His implication is that since men are trash talked 24/7 already and that no real mainstream ideology portrays them in any real positive light, the women in this comment section that talk about how they realized men are horny or untrustworthy aren't redpilled. Redpill isn't just cynicism or realism or just being really objective. In order for something to be a "redpill", it has to not be the norm, and also to be obfuscated by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:01 PM
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I was almost certain you'd give an answer like this. You claim that all those groups don't know what the left or feminism actually are, since they only have a vague idea of them, but when asked yourself, you have the exact same reaction. I think you're projecting here a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:59 PM
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Are you a leftist and/or a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:56 PM
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The generalization isn't the problem. The problem is that this mentality is the norm, not the exception. A woman saying "I fucking hate men, they're gross" is as bluepilled as it can be, since that's pretty much the accepted mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:53 PM
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How is this a redpill? A redpill is something that was hidden from you by society. Society doesn't tell you that men aren't interested in youth and good looks or that they're not horndogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:51 PM
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He's arguing that hating men is the norm, not the redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:31 PM
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How is this redpilled? This seems like the type of bluepill shit you can read on tumblr all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:29 PM
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I really don't think women get wet over a dude's hobbies, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 11:04 PM
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Your assumption can only be true if 2 things are true: 1. That every "Chad" is basically bluepilled or ignorant of why he's successful and 2. that if a man that can increase his sexual partner count by following TRP then that means he was a complete loser initially. I don't think either of those 2 things are true, so your argument doesn't make much sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 09:57 PM
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Stating positive things white Christians have done doesn't negate the fact that historically white Christians haven't done good by others. It's a deflection to avoid the point. Saying "they haven't done good by others" means that either the bad they've done outweighs the good they've done, the bad they've done outweighs the bad other people have done, or that they've done only bad. Whatever you mean by it I directly disagree. I don't deflect at all. Buying into the idea that young children are b…
/r/PussyPassDenied19/01/19 09:44 PM
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Who had those slaves? Did they not commit human rights abuses themselves? What about native americans? Rubber plantations? South Africa? India? South America and the Carribean? Of course they did. But I don't think you can find any people that had no slaves or committed no human rights abuses, so this seems like a strange criticism. Explaining things to you is tiring. That's because you don't seem to understand what you're even saying or arguing against. The person you replied to said that peopl…
/r/PussyPassDenied19/01/19 09:04 PM
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Again, you are agreeing with him while telling him that he's wrong. In reality white Christian society hasn't done good by others historically. Other than largely ending slavery throughout the world, most modern technological inventions and the enforcement of human rights in many countries, I guess you're right.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/01/19 08:35 PM
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You literally told him that he should hate his white ancestors, however.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/01/19 08:21 PM
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Nobody was talking about whites being oppressed, buddy. The guy you replied to argued that plenty of people are told that whites, specifically white men are the bane of most problems today. You replied that that's not true, while claiming that white men in the past are the bane of most problems today. You disagreed with yourself in 2 sentences.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/01/19 07:55 PM
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dude claiming that people are calling out white men for being oppressors is ridiculous you white oppressor Your comment genuinely made me laugh. You disagreed with yourself in literally 2 sentences. LOL!
/r/PussyPassDenied19/01/19 07:40 PM
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There were instances of black fathers and black children doing wrong as well as Hispanic. Please give the time stamp. Maybe not ads but attack on females has been going on in music, business, and most fields that matter. Please give some examples.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/01/19 07:35 PM
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You seem really mentally unstable.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/01/19 06:39 PM
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bro stop freaking out it's just reddit OH YEA WHERE'S THE PROOF??? GIVE ME PROOF?? UNDENIABLE YOU FUCKING BABY YOU DIPSIHT FUCK YOU BABY RESPOND TO ME?? BITCH BABY FUCK YOU ASSHOLE LOOOOL I DON'T EVEN CARE BRO LMAOOO DIPSHIT LOOOOOL Damn! You really proved me wrong.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/01/19 06:22 PM
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It seemed like an attack when pretty much every abuser or bully was white, while every defender was black. The video also quoted TYT and showed how 2 boys playing was basically wrong. I don't know. I feel like if you want to sell something to men, but your ad reads like "men are shit lmao", then your audience is gonna be a bit bothered. When's the last time you saw an ad telling women to be better?
/r/PussyPassDenied19/01/19 06:20 PM
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Feel free to enlighten me. What perspective?
/r/PussyPassDenied19/01/19 05:58 PM
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This is copypasta worthy, but it doesn't change the fact that you specifically made an account to shit talk others. Also, quite hypocritical to say that I take reddit seriously, while you get this emotional over being called out on your shitposting.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/01/19 05:43 PM
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Do you think the ad got massively downvoted because they said bullying is bad?
/r/PussyPassDenied19/01/19 05:38 PM
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No, but they definitely didn't try to appeal to the conservative crowd with that commercial, which seems hypocritical.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/01/19 05:31 PM
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Yea, but your oldest comment is from 1 hour ago. Are you really such a pussy that you can't even shitpost on your main account? Do you really care about your reddit reputation that much? Fucking loser. LOL!
/r/PussyPassDenied19/01/19 05:26 PM
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Did you seriously make a new account just to shitpost?
/r/PussyPassDenied19/01/19 05:05 PM
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" It turns out that people with dark personalities are not naturally more attractive, but instead they do more to enhance their appearance, such as dressing and grooming in ways that make them appear more attractive." It doesn't debunk anything, it simply states that narcissists groom themselves more. They found that only 1 woman out of the 50 undergraduates in their sample actually identified “dominant” as one of the traits she sought in either an ideal date or a romantic partner. Only when tol…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 09:51 PM
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So I take the time to read your articles and show you that you're wrong, and you respond with this bullshit? Absolutely pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 09:18 PM
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"Previous research has found evidence that the Dark Triad traits are associated with particular facial features. These facial features tend to be rated as less attractive — yet people with dark personalities tend to report having a high number of sexual partners. That doesn't disagree with me in any way. https://www.luvze.com/do-people-with-dark-personalities-enhance-their-physical-att/ This states: Although dark personality traits are linked to negative relationship outcomes, people who are hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 07:56 PM
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Studies show the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 07:12 PM
1

The douchebag alpha male bro doesn't starve for sex, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 06:52 PM
1

How is this relevant to the conversation I was having with the other person?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 02:40 PM
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I don't think women go into other fields to chase after dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 02:29 PM
1

I don't know what point you're making.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 02:09 PM
1

And you believe "bad boys" display more of those qualities than "good guys", or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 02:05 PM
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While that's true, that doesn't mean that women don't find "bad boys" attractive because, at least in part, they're bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 02:34 AM
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He's implying women generally aren't interested in studying STEM, which he is right about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 02:11 AM
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Right, but what the fuck is your point then? The argument is that being "bad" is actually attractive to women, for the most part. Meaning that if a woman would have to pick between a "bad" guy and a "good" guy, she'd go for the former if they were mostly equal in everything else. You seem to not understand this. You also brought up how nice guys don't like bad girls from nowhere. Nobody even talked about it and it's completely irrelevant to the argument at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 01:35 AM
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Nah, I don't see it. In your initial comment you said "nice guys", or the stereotype thereof is that they're unattractive. However, when it was pointed out to you that generally bad men are seen as more attractive than the boring safe choice, you responded that nice attractive men are apparently not attracted to bad girls. That is nonsensical. Do you think bad girls are bad BECAUSE they're attracted to bad guys? In which case, why would good guys rejecting them have any relevance? And do you thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 11:09 PM
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I don't think you know what an "euphemism" is. Your argument was that "bad girls" are attractive to "attractive bad girls" only because nice guys reject them, the implication being that "nice guys" are the most desirable demographic, whereas in the comment right before that you said nice guys are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 10:12 PM
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. Males murder, rape, rob, destroy, and assault at far higher rates than women- this is fact Correct. but we are going to call women neurotic. Yea? Do you think these 2 things are somehow contradictory?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 07:57 PM
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Not sure what you mean. Just cause you're dominant, aggressive or are perceived as exciting by some women doesn't mean you're high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 07:52 PM
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I think most people go through the same experience. When I was a teenager I was the typical le atheist fedora tipper liberal and I just changed over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 05:49 PM
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Believe means to accept something without evidence. Not necessarily. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/believe
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 05:43 PM
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You probably talked to a lot of people that throw "sexist" and "misogynist" around freely, even when they don't apply. I don't blame you for thinking that since those people are practically everywhere, including this comment section.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 05:36 PM
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I don't understand your point. Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. I don't hate women. I don't base my opinions of women on hatred or any emotion, for that matter. Women are more neurotic and emotional, this is a fact, not some baseless form of bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 05:15 PM
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You get btfo'd in practically every comment thread and you just refuse to reply again, rather than adjust your argument. I can give you a link where we had an argument and you got destroyed only for you to stop responding and go to another comment section and make the same points.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 04:21 PM
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No, but it seemed like you implied that because it's an opinion then it cannot be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 03:30 PM
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Women are more emotional than men, however. They have much more emotional expressivity, especially when it comes to negative emotions. Stating this fact doesn't mean you hate women or are anti-woman. This is kinda the difference to me. In my opinion, sexism requires outright hatred or active anti-female actions, not simply stating a fact that might make women look worse. On the same note, I'd argue you think feminism isn't misandric, even though it's outright anti-male.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 03:28 PM
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Something can be both an opinion and a fact. They're not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 03:26 PM
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Yea, it is. You see this a lot, even on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 03:09 PM
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It's not that there will be a lack of desperate men, it's the fact that women will keep demanding men higher status than themselves, but there won't be anywhere near enough men like that around anymore. Also, marriage rates now are much smaller than they used to be and they're dropping.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 03:03 PM
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I do and still disagree. I also repeat my previous question: Applying this same logic, would you agree that feminism is mainly misandric?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 02:51 PM
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Telling men to not be pussies is pretty good.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 02:48 PM
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I don't give a fuck about public perception. That isn't what I asked. I asked about "misogynistic" parts of TRP. AWALT definitely does fit, but I'm not sure how common that shit really is. Applying this same logic, would you agree that feminism is mainly misandric?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 02:46 PM
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What makes them subpar?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 02:43 PM
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You mock this generalization 1 comment down this chain, so I don't really see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 02:34 PM
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No, they don't. Women always have an issue when it comes to dating, because they either can't really tell what they're actually attracted to, and they assume that men are attracted to the same things they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 02:19 PM
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What's misogynistic about TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 02:14 PM
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How did you learn that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 12:14 PM
1

Why did you go to the doctor to ask about it if you think low libido isn't a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 11:28 AM
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Have you ever gone to your doctor and said: Doctor, I have a pretty low libido. Can I have some tests done to see if this is because of some inherent issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 11:20 AM
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A low libido can be caused by tons of different problems. Not sure what working with doctors has to do with whether or not you went to the hospital to get tested. It’s nothing that needs to be fixed. You don't know this unless you verify with actual tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 11:14 AM
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Have you've gone to the doctor to see why this might be the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 11:06 AM
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Have you've gone to the doctor to see why this might be the case? Usually low libido comes from low amount of physical activity. Do you work out or play sports regularly?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 11:01 AM
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And yet you said your kids are "light brown"? That makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 02:03 AM
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or they're sick of dating bad boys Those bad boys are generally mediocre looking douches with bad jobs. Not really high value guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 01:58 AM
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And London was founded by Romans, that doesn't mean Brits are Southern Europeans or Latins. Yea, but what type of mix? I know several people from PR that look 100% African, the same way I know a girl from PR that's pale skinned with blue eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 01:56 AM
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Irish aren't Nordic, though. And Puerto Rican isn't a race.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 01:49 AM
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Are you in a relationship with a woman that you have sex with a lot, or do you simply have a low libido?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 01:47 AM
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Nordic as in what? And what race are you, btw?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 01:28 AM
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So "nice guys" are unattractive just cause they're unattractive, "nice girls" are unattractive cause men are just assholes and don't appreciate them. Do you seriously lack this much self-awareness? LOL!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 01:27 AM
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Ah, so you're a non-white guy impregnating white women? Is that what you're saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 12:55 AM
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By "childless men" do you mean childless politicians? And what country is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 12:52 AM
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Didn't you say you were a guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 12:31 AM
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No, he's saying that his gf is manipulating him with sex and teasing him. Manipulation isn't a simple exchange of goods like you make it seem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 12:24 AM
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No, they still weren't. I think you're confusing suffragettes with all feminists in those days. I'm sure some feminists agreed with what you're saying, but the suffragettes definitely were not in favor of the gender equality you're espousing.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/01/19 07:40 PM
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Not sure what you're talking about. In the UK, suffragettes wanted at best a universal draft, but definitely not a lack of a draft. Look up their involvement in the White Feather movement.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/01/19 07:00 PM
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Really? They wanted to revert the army to pre-Marian reforms?
/r/PussyPassDenied12/01/19 06:33 PM
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I don't think that's ever been real, then. The sufragettes fought against getting drafted.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/01/19 06:15 PM
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I guess that really depends on your definition of "true feminist".
/r/PussyPassDenied12/01/19 06:01 PM
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If she just got fired then this is still a pass. If she got some prison time, then it would fit.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/01/19 06:24 PM
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Not really, though. I know certain women like to pretend modern feminism is bad and sexist, but feminism of back then was good and just, but the reality is that feminism has never been egalitarian and most of the actual positive change wasn't done by feminists.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/01/19 06:17 PM
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What confuses me is that they complain that r/European complains about their "beautiful European women" getting raped and assaulted and calls them whiners. So they care about women, just not European ones?
/r/PussyPassDenied11/01/19 07:13 AM
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I know. Democrats are so butthurt about it that they peddle this lie that the parties somehow switched, so they're not to be blamed for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 12:20 AM
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More Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act than Democrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 09:28 PM
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You can tell incels said that, cause it's definitely not something a woman would ever say. Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 09:25 PM
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No, they say this because Bill Gates was a virgin until his early 30's and Zuckerberg was a troll that no woman paid attention to until he got rich. As far as I understand it, a Chad is attractive beyond his financial status, whereas these 2 guys aren't really attractive outside of their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 09:11 PM
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You know what else is a social construct? Rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 08:42 PM
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Statistically, you provided no statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 08:00 PM
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Right, but the males aren't responsible for the increase of either disease. Women are largely responsible for it since they put off having kids for longer and longer. And female fertility does tank around mid 30's, but it doesn't completely stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 06:13 PM
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The implication that the nuclear family and monogamy are not the most beneficial anymore has been proven wrong, however. It's strange you claim I can't deny your papers while you deny mine. Not sure what conclusion you hope we can reach here. And I never said it will never happen at all, I said it won't happen in a way that puts 50% of people off work. You cannot have a running country with 50% unemployment because you won't have enough people buying stuff to keep the economy going and you'll ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 12:02 PM
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Your position was that monogamy and the nuclear family is outdated. That was your main argument. Now you're saying that the nuclear family is fine, but extended family should help in raising children, which is completely parallel to everything we've talked about so far and I have 0 clue where you got that from. Automation will not remove 50% of jobs because that level of unemployment will destroy any society that implements it. Do you think business leaders have a death wish? Part time employmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:07 AM
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No, you said that everything changes and then also debated how monogamy is very new and therefore could simply change and etc. There is no American insistence on tearing the nuclear family away from extended family, I think that's just your personal delusion. Here are more studies then: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318833425_Life_Satisfaction_of_Career_Women_And_Housewives https://mpra.ub.uni-muenchen.de/37551/1/MPRA_paper_37551.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 10:01 AM
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Yea, agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 08:43 AM
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That's beyond ridiculous. If masculinity leads to suicide, then why do the most effeminate societies have the highest suicide rates?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 08:42 AM
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That's an irrelevant stat, though. Yea, we agree that help from extended family is good, so what? How does that tell you that monogamous relationships are somehow outdated? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3634473/The-job-makes-happiest-Housewife-Survey-finds-stay-home-mothers-satisfied-profession.html ? Iceland is a tiny and extremely wealthy homogeneous country which has nowhere near the same problems as the US. Hard to compare the two, and even harder to attribute Iceland's success to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 08:41 AM
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No, but nice strawman. Deciding your hair color should be relevant if other people's taxes pay for your dye. If you buy your own hair dye, then do whatever. In the argument proposed here, people's decision making is "independent", yet they're subsidized by everyone else without giving anyone else a choice whether or not they want to support other people's irresponsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 08:25 AM
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Nobody denied this, though. It's still not true that paternal age affects the child more than maternal age.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 08:21 AM
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Not necessarily, but likely. A woman settling down with a man like OP doesn't disprove hypergamy or anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 08:00 PM
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He also said that they had kids together as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 07:26 PM
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It's not about putting people into boxes or labels, you're just inconsistent. You either give people the right to choose or you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 07:06 PM
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No, you didn't. I asked for 1 event that makes you think supporters are unintelligent sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:48 PM
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So can you name 1 actual thing he's done that makes him and his supporters unintelligent sociopaths?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:32 PM
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So you think a 35 yo woman that is desperate for kids is less likely to start a relationship with a 30 yo dude compared to a 23 yo woman with a good career and good looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:59 PM
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Okay, but so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:47 PM
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I guess I see that and I agree. Still, your initial comment was a deflection at best. You implied that my example of a 23 yo wouldn't work because they naturally have lower standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:34 PM
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You sound like a teenager, bro. Why do you hate Trump so badly?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:33 PM
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Explain how OP got in a relationship then. If you think women in their 30's don't massively lower their standards to fix their baby rabies, then you haven't met many of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:28 PM
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No, you said "some do this, some do that, some do other things". That's not telling me anything about what you actually think. But whatever. This conversation is tiring at this point and it will never lead anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:26 PM
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I guess we agree and disagree at the same time. I agree that 20 yo's are more irresponsible, but they're nowhere near as desperate as 30 yo's, which in my opinion cancels it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:19 PM
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You speculated about the state of other people's minds in the comment I replied to. Why would you have any reservations about doing it again?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:11 PM
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If a woman that picks men like this has lower standards, that means that women naturally pick based on career, income, home ownership and debt, no? So why would young women not pick richer men? Is it an instance of not being able to, or not wanting to?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:09 PM
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So what's the average man that a 23 yo woman dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:57 PM
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You said 23 yo women have lower standards, you didn't say "some women" do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:50 PM
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You're still dodging the question, though. Do you believe that women that demand quotas do so because they're too afraid that they aren't truly competent?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:48 PM
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So the average 24 yo guy has drinking problems or is a drug dealer?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:47 PM
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You said 23 yo women have lower standards, but I don't know what you mean by this. They don't care as much maybe about financial security or having children yet, but that doesn't mean anything. Having different selection standards doesn't mean they're lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:38 PM
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In 0 threads that I am part of in this post did money or wealth come up once. Then I stand corrected. It was only about how men prefer younger women. Yes, the people of this country that voted for the worst president of all time because they wanted to make "the libtards cry" are not likeable people. "Not likeable" isn't quite what you said. You said they're completely unintelligent sociopaths. It makes you a hypocrite to spend several posts in this comment section lecturing people about how they…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:36 PM
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This is what you said: Not all people are capable of being a good leader, even if they have leadership ambitions. I find that people who are truly competent will naturally slide into a "senior" slot in the area where they excel. It therefore logically follows that people that need a push to the top don't deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:31 PM
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I don't give a fuck. You can't be a libertarian and a socialist at the same time. You either give people complete power over their financial responsibilities and remove welfare, or you do neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:29 PM
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"Sometimes" doesn't tell me anything about the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:28 PM
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I'm dumbfounded by what your stance is at this point. I genuinely can't figure it out anymore. So girls get in relationships with losers in their early 20's, and they marry them while they're still losers on average? Or do they only marry them after they stop being losers, on average? How can you determine if they have lower or higher standards if you don't know what they even prefer?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:19 PM
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But you still aren't applying your reasoning consistently. You said anyone that wants power without competing fairly is afraid that they can't succeed otherwise. That would imply that since most women support affirmative action, that they're afraid they can't compete otherwise, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:16 PM
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No, but it does mean that women eventually marry their loser boyfriends, no? So most marriages are between a woman and a loser?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:12 PM
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Or you're paying out with neither, which is what I want. You can't on one hand promote this libertarian mindset about how parents should have complete control over their kids, while forcing their decision on the rest of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:05 PM
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People here argued that women select their partners based on wealth while men pick them based on youth, you replied by saying that emotions are the most important and only sociopaths disagree. Now you sit here and basically rant about how you completely despise more than half the country while you complained before about how people lack empathy. Lol! How do you not see the humor in this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:03 PM
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No, I'm just questioning your logic. On one hand you're telling me that 23 yo women date their loser boyfriends and have low standards, while on the other hand you're telling me that they're responsible adults that are already planning their marriage and future. You can't have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:01 PM
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So you went from "only sociopaths don't care about emotions, it's sexist to imply women care about money" to "most white women are psychopathic racist harpies and I hate them" in the span of 4 replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:59 PM
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It means that the few men that actually do get in but wouldn't have gotten in without gender quotas is practically null. Same as in construction when it comes to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:54 PM
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That's only good if you remove welfare for single mothers. Otherwise, you'll simply overburden the state with the inevitable spending.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:53 PM
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You said they date their "loser" college boyfriends. I don't see how women that think about marriage and children can marry losers as the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:51 PM
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Yea, but by your own logic most white women are basically unintelligent sociopaths, same as most white men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:50 PM
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