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Women have three standards 1) yes for free (top 1%) 2) yes on condition (19%) 3) Hell no (80% of men)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:56 AM
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Sex for women = grocery shopping America Sex for men = grocery shopping Somalia
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:50 AM
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Look at who the vast majority of marriage minded men with options prefer. You can go from a wife to a ho, not the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 02:18 PM
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The worst of them have dedicated ho-account
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 04:17 PM
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Women want from men what the rich want from the poor, for the team at the bottom to know their place and be stewards of a society that offers little benefit. Most men want nothing to do with women they aren’t marrying. Where as women want to have a stable of different types of guy for different roles, they see men as types of tools or breeds of dog. They want the hot guy for sperm, the successful guy for stability, the handy guy to fix shit, the firemen to stop the flames. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:35 PM
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It isn’t about looks, it’s about offering children. There are plenty of hot 40 year old women who are more photogenic than 25 year old land whales.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:31 PM
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Then you are saying the only thing women offer is reproductive viability, agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:20 PM
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Men fully understand the most “physically attractive” women come with problems so they aren’t the most logistically attractive. Men don’t see a plain but reliable woman as a “loss” the way women see average dudes. Women love or at least don’t mind hot men’s drama. A man in his late 30s with dating experience knows attractive women are liabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:59 PM
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Because women love money and statistically men make more of it with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:50 PM
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How do you justify asking for a high salary if yours is low?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 12:43 PM
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Women don’t befriend men they respect. They befriend men they can squeeze what they want out of as needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:49 PM
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Most men don’t participate in the dating game.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:39 PM
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10 million plus dead beat dads in America, let’s stop pretending women have standards. Their life is a game.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:38 PM
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The right guy or a fantasy guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:37 PM
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The blame is on women because they filter out most well behaved men with superficial criteria and then want a bailout. Ex: child support is about forcing good looking and socially skilled men to play nice more so than protecting kids. If women wanted to protect kids they wouldn’t offer up their baby factory to these kinds of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:53 PM
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Hypergamy doesn’t guarantee success, plenty of women price themselves out and into the cat life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 12:36 PM
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Women don’t want to sleep with nerds short of Elon, the Chad of the Nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:47 AM
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Women ruin marriages over ex boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:45 AM
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Women have a saint-brute complex, they punish the saints and reward the brutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:09 AM
1

This!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:03 PM
1

Makes most women look masculine or dykey
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:02 PM
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Their ultimate goal is to receive stuff for the illusion rather than delivery of pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:01 PM
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Their personality is usually indicative of that and much more. Like women who are too comfortable around men are usually sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:00 PM
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And the bond between the women who sleep with married men, use sex to get ahead of colleagues, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 10:17 PM
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Except it’s literally more important for the woman to be attractive if she’s expecting a man from the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 10:04 PM
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Sapiosexual in app profile often followed by single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 09:51 PM
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Yea wealthy people have more money so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 09:10 PM
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Duh they want a guy they are obsessed with who doesn’t care about them. They view lack of attention from quality guy as measure of his value. The more attention the less value (assuming he meets the foot in door threshold).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:59 PM
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There are more male virgins than deadbeat dads, because women prioritize sexual attraction. Goodness only matters to them if man is good looking, where as men intentionally date down in looks to avoid drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:31 AM
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The truth is irrelevant to women. Remember in Braveheart when William Wallace yells “freedom!” well if he had been a woman he would have yelled “safety!” or done what the king said. It’s hard for them to be honest because they are always playing politics to keep betas in supply on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:29 AM
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The truth is irrelevant to women. Remember in Braveheart when William Wallace yells “freedom!” well if he had been a woman he would have yelled “safety!” or done what the king said. It’s hard for them to be honest because they are always playing politics to keep betas in supply on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:28 AM
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Women are only prizes because most men are considered by default not good enough in western culture. There is very little expectation on women to feminine (and beauty has nothing to do with femininity)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:21 AM
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Still better than the friend zone. Eating pizza all day better than nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:48 PM
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I think a lot of people in comments have the passport bro thing wrong. It isn’t about them being undesired or unsuccessful. For starters, if you can afford to fly internationally for purposes of dating, there are plenty of money hungry American women. The bros go over sees to find feminine women instead of “bad bitch boss babes.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 03:38 AM
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If female sexuality were truly shamed, there wouldn’t be open source gold diggers and a single mother epidemic. It’s quiet the opposite in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 03:10 AM
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Men are less successful now than ever, I would argue the people buying sex historically were likely transient workers (like cowboys) or wealthy elites spending gold coins for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 03:03 AM
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I’ve always said the line between harassment and compliment is the line between Danny Devito and George Clooney.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:19 PM
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Do you understand that for most men the possibility of being loved is off the table? Of course they will settle for sex where they get it when that is all they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:14 PM
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“Guys they like” is euphemism for average looking safe bet beta guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:54 PM
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The root of this post is that women are mad they waisted peak reproductive viability on men who wouldn’t marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:55 PM
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A generation of women were taught to wait until 35 to magically find a last minute husband and now passport bros have entered the chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:52 PM
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For some men, the odds of them finding romance are comparable to the odds of them becoming a pro athlete. The real problem in our society is telling these guys from day one they have a shot in order to get them to buy in to the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:15 PM
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It’s universally known among successful men outside of USA that American women make bad wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:10 PM
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Most men don’t operate in terms of deserve, we operate in terms of who says yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:51 PM
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Most men don’t operate in terms of deserve, we operate in terms of who says yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:50 PM
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Most kids in America now born to single moms so it can’t get much worsez
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:18 PM
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What about women’s “saint brute complex?” They punish saints and reward brutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:02 PM
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There are modern witches, they are called feminists and boss babes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:18 PM
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If you are willing to let someone work on your car, you should trust they went to a good auto school and not ask for customer testimonials.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:15 PM
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Women are masters of price fixing, men need to figure out the same game.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:13 PM
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Traditional now = benefiting straight women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 06:19 PM
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George Clooney = sincere Danny Devito = creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:45 AM
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Look how no one is hating on this comment, but men are shamed for not wanting single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:43 AM
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If you want a husband and access to his highest salary year, the price of that is your peak reproductive viability. Why the fuck is any guy wifing up women he isn’t having multiple planned kids with? Literally no reason for a man to ever marry other than having kids!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:30 AM
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Most men don’t have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 03:40 AM
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Why would a man date a woman he isn’t having kids with in future? We need to stop giving wife privileges to girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 05:19 PM
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Go to a big coastal city, 35 year old women live like 21 year olds with a bigger budget.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 06:53 PM
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At this point not sleeping around and stuffing their faces would go along way for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 05:12 PM
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Domestic violence is wrong, but man hitting woman is typically worse. Just like your HS kid doing stupid shit your preschooler would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 01:34 PM
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It leads to crime and it stifles innovation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 12:39 AM
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Understand men feel this way about women who: Pierce their face like a dart board Dye their hair shades of skittle Get weird haircuts like a doll or shave half head. Have cats Have obscure exotic pets Have child already (especially with deadbeat)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:05 PM
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When women say “if men can do it we can do it” they are focused on the 1 percent of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:00 PM
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Women don’t offer infinite value which is the problem. Women can only give (1) first place trophy and or access to their peak reproductive viability to (1) man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:59 AM
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Not all men want high maintenance women, in fact most don’t. 5/10 pretty without being fat is better than 8/10 makeup pallet face.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:46 AM
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If you are in a large coastal city, the fattest girl you know can bang ugly millionaires and your average friends can bang regular looking millionaires. They will not be able to secure marriage from said millionaire. Most men cannot afford to date. So women get lots of first dates from a small group of wealthy guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:43 AM
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Good married women with children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:39 AM
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How about teaching young women most of them don’t deserve an NFL husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 08:34 PM
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You don’t have to roll back gain, it’s about creating a social climate that is balanced. Women want to decide what makes a man “valuable” but don’t want men to decide what makes a woman “valuable.” Equality, body positivity, and benefit of the doubt have become privileges exclusive to women. Even when you match men and women from similar social circles the ball is in women’s court.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 04:52 PM
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You don’t have to roll back gain, it’s about creating a social climate that is balanced. Women want to decide what makes a man “valuable” but don’t want men to decide what makes a woman “valuable.” Equality, body positivity, and benefit of the doubt have become privileges exclusive to women. Even when you match men and women from similar social circles the ball is in women’s court.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 04:52 PM
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Women want one-way traditionalism that benefits them exclusively.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 01:01 PM
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Ugly isn’t the problem, it’s the average ones. Hot women get who they want, average woman compete with hot women, ugly women get the men average women ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 02:34 AM
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It isn’t about being polite, it’s about staying in good favor for later.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 10:07 PM
1

Do you understand that attractiveness is composed of many factors? You don’t get to have hot guys at 25 and then a great husband at 35. Your hotness at 25 is what gets you a husband. If you want to sleep around and die alone that is totally YOUR choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 01:58 PM
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Does the woman want a husband ever? You are just advocating for no expectations on the women’s end. You want single moms to expect good men, get the Ef outta here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:50 PM
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Masculinity is not the missing ingredient. I’m friends with elite combat sports athletes, soldiers, construction workers with own business who struggle. Some of the men I most respect get zero respect from women. The more I would recommend a man to my sister the less women like him it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 01:06 PM
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Female geek = down to earth Make geek = social pariah
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 01:03 PM
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Women are entitled to good behavior from hot guys. They expect the NBA player with unlimited options to commit to them. When their 50k a year boyfriend makes a mistake it has to be a federal case.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 01:00 PM
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Because women are choosing hot guys who treat them like disposable goods and then expecting a husband. You don’t get into Harvard with a GED.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 12:58 PM
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Any warning to women is seen as “controlling.” It’s like dealing with children you are trying to keep alive on a hiking trip.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 12:56 PM
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Men can’t love women with children as strongly as they can love childless women. Decent men actually see your first child as the most meaningful. Unless your babies daddy died a war hero, we don’t want to raise your kid when it’s likely from some guy who never took you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 09:19 PM
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Why can’t men pursue having children of their own, why is someone always trying to push other men’s bastard children on us like a freaking shelter dog guilt fest?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:53 PM
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70 percent of people could mean that a small pool of men are juggling and a large pool of women are sharing. There is no shortage of women finding out they are a side piece. Look at rates of marriage or at least cohabitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:49 PM
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There are millions of male virgins and dead beat dads, let that sink in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 06:52 PM
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What if you know it’s better to stay out of jail than do what gets you laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 06:50 PM
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Betas like bitchy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 02:42 PM
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No childless man with options wants to raise another man’s child because it’s a second place position. First born child is highest honor a woman can offer a man and they often offer it to lowlifes. Why should a better man except less than you gave a bad man?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:34 PM
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Precisely, they want to keep the applicant pool size high in order to leverage collective male attention. Same strategy big box stores use instead of just hiring a solid screw there have a stable of dummies and everyone is expendable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 02:52 PM
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Imagine if they were “affection workers” and a whole class of men were paying to be loved, because most women deemed them unlovable. Yes there are creeps, but this industry is mainly funded by the photogenically unfuckable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:28 PM
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Mainly white women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:52 PM
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Woman use those categories not men. Most men consider most women category (A) to the point that category (B) hardly exists. A more accurate scenario would be to categorizing women into casual vs long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:39 AM
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Dream girls are expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 11:45 AM
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Do you realize the most popular men are juggling women and using them up like toilet paper? Most guys aren’t players in the dating game, and those that are have wildly different options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:10 AM
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Because they are getting passed around and juggled by same guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:09 AM
1

A lot of the Berthas die alone waiting for Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:08 AM
1

Felons and violent offenders are more likely to have sex and offspring so…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:01 AM
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How is he supposed to “know you” if you meet in passing?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:54 AM
2

Why do you even go out in public if you believe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:53 AM
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When was the last time a woman on here was offended or put off by a guy she thought was hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:51 AM
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The longer a woman makes you wait for sex, the longer she is looking for reasons to justify fucking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:29 PM
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The longer a woman makes you wait for sex, the longer she is looking for reasons to justify fucking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:29 PM
2

Can just be honest about the fact that for most women, the guy they find hot isn’t going to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:28 PM
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Consider this: all men want sex now. Now consider this, why should the man you “love” except less than the man who didn’t love you, let alone call you back?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:24 PM
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Women confuse confidence for competence. Meanwhile we all know extremely confident I’m incompetent people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 09:16 PM
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A single attractive woman is like a tall guy who doesn’t play basketball.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 09:15 PM
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There is no shortage of broke women. If they were all doing so well there wouldn’t be a mainstreaming of sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:16 AM
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Women get free shit and attention from dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:21 AM
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Some people’s politics are a religion so YES.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:22 PM
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Most men don’t date, most men who do date will date down at some point out of necessity or boredom.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 03:36 PM
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The line between toxic and charming is the line between Danny Devito and George Clooney.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 08:31 PM
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No shortage of women beating dead beat dads, no shortage of virgins either, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:19 PM
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It’s not worse economic conditions, it’s their expectations of a luxury lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:24 PM
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Lack of clear signaling because they want plausible deniability in all situations. Dating women is one big press conference by GLOMAR.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:10 AM
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Not having kids
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 10:07 PM
1

It’s not black pill. Women can find something wrong with any man, men can find good about most women. Men don’t turn down attractive women for being an inch off in height preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 02:16 PM
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Women are complaining about the men on their radar, not the guy they grew up with who has a crush on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:33 PM
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Women are only intentionally appealing to the top men. They don’t want to hear from the entry level guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:32 PM
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Women often mistake self esteem for competence. There are plenty of men with high esteem and zero competence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:31 PM
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Professional leagues exist so…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:30 PM
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What if there is a group of the same age women at a table next to you that thinks it is acceptable? I think people are wondering what makes YOU the rule maker. You are assigning malicious intent based on the person not the behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 07:12 PM
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Plenty of hot women make horrible girlfriends, or even hookups
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 07:10 PM
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This!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:39 AM
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It’s blue pill media more than “mommies”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:36 AM
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I think everyone is down playing the regional cultural impact on women’s behaviors. In USA single moms are glorified, in Mexico they aren’t. The less social services safety nets the better their behavior tends to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:33 AM
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Really the SAME for sons and daughter!? People literally choose diet and fitness plan by body type. But I guess we are all the SAME.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:16 AM
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Most women don’t have fertility issues unless they waited to long. The vast majority can have children easily between 18 and 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 06:12 PM
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Women see having kids as an entitlement, which is why they play the dating game for “The Man” not “a man.” Can’t imagine having a man’s child is the highest honor to good men, and how they ruin themselves having low quality baby daddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 06:11 PM
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I think the feeling of “being expected of more for less” is worse for men to deal with than simply being “desired or not.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 06:03 PM
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Most men would rather be raped than fund another man’s child.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 04:22 PM
1

A lot of women’s fashion styles are gross to men. Fake lashes, dramatic makeup, skittle colored hair, stretched ears, most guys think it’s gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:20 AM
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Most women aren’t having that surgery, it’s a core bimbo crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:18 AM
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The problem is a large pool of women are being passed around by a small pool of men, which isn’t inherently bad but when you pretend women are holier than thou other than self serving it fucks with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:10 AM
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We need to shame female losers. Not just slut shaming but shaming for shitty personality, shaming for lack of useful skills, shaming for buying 1000 purses they never use. The problem is ever single woman is acting like Russel Crowe in Gladiator for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:02 AM
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Women won’t make the guy who gets them pregnant marry before sex then want next guy to marry them. Fuck off with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:00 AM
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This makes no sense, you mean to tell me the millions of single moms are vetting men this way? Common women fuck who they think hot, interesting, or successful, and on a whim.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:58 AM
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I doubt most men want to marry a porn star, or at least men that women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:50 AM
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Women below an 8/10 should be barred from accessing men of the top tier, the way most men are barred accessing women in general. The problem is our society thinks a single mom of 3 deserves a better and more successful man than the woman who did the right thing. It’s not just about screwing men. Our low expectations on women hurt the actual quality women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 09:13 PM
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For most of our history women happily and openly shared top men, I think that is the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 03:19 AM
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I don’t think women realize what it’s like for your sex drive to be influencer by your partners peak reproductive viability.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 03:17 AM
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Those are the idiots, most men won’t accept them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:45 PM
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In the USA it’s around 200k cost and in Mexico 50k.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:44 PM
2

You left out that the women who are below 7 want above 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:40 PM
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Women don’t give men security, men give women security. The only reason career women can exist is because of men providing infrastructure and policing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 05:56 PM
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If you are in the top tier of men you have options, if you average you are screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 05:54 PM
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A large pool of men do not participate in dating or reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 05:21 PM
8

When have women cared about men’s feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 05:00 PM
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Actually the need a boss to pay them, and the need service industry men to play husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 04:59 PM
1

Single mom’s were seeking personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 12:59 AM
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Because chances are the divorced man married before he peaked and the divorced woman married after she peaked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 12:54 AM
1

Well when it’s the one of the top insults women drop because you said something they don’t like, I kind of get why. Think they are fat = small penis. Don’t date single moms = small penis. Have standards = little dick energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 05:26 PM
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Well when it’s the one of the top insults women drop because you said something they don’t like, I kind of get why. Think they are fat = small penis. Don’t date single moms = small penis. Have standards = little dick energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 05:26 PM
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You’re built like a dude though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 05:12 PM
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Women who want you will give you pretty much anything within reason. Women who treat sex like a chore are settlers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 03:56 PM
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Women who want you will give you pretty much anything within reason. Women who treat sex like a chore are settlers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 03:56 PM
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Women waiting is them trying to find a reason to bang when they don’t think man is hot. They don’t wait with hot guys because they don’t consider most men hot, thus hot guys are get them while you can status.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 01:17 PM
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Women have nothing to offer but fertility. Being pretty can be an indicator of fertility but not always. Most men who want marriage will choose 7/10 25 year old over 10/10 35 year old, because it’s about the kids. Guys who just want sex should looking for the nearest cougar.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 08:32 PM
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Of course it’s the women’s fault if they choose men because “he’s hot” or rich, or plays drums in a band. Bringing up ex-husbands proves my point, most divorce is initiated by women, it isn’t husbands leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 09:52 PM
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Understand that a large portion of men don’t get sex ever. A larger portion get sex once in a while, and a smaller portion get sex regularly. Sperm donation sells for about 1/20 the value of egg donation. When a woman cheats she’s giving away something valuable for free, most often to a man who has made little investment in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:04 PM
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They pick shitty men based on bad priorities, stop glamorizing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:20 AM
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Women with options and their choices in men don’t reflect that they want relationships. Single motherhood isn’t a thing because women are relationship minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:04 AM
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She isn’t your friend. She’s a chick you know. You need to do a group function and treat her friends like gold while ignoring her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:54 PM
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How would they talk to you again without getting your info?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:45 PM
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Women don’t have stranger danger if you are their type. They can’t imagine a guy who is good looking behaving badly. They think regular dudes are all criminals when violence against women is a repeat offender crowd not a wide net of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:43 PM
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Guys don’t care about your money, no need to feel like a loser because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:21 AM
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It’s not about “hotness” it’s about ability/viability to have a kid(s) and what that looks like in proportion to age. Men prefer a plain Jane 25 year old to a 10/10 40 year old for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:44 PM
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Most men don’t want to marry these women, and there are less “attractive” men available than “attractive women.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:42 PM
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Women need to date with intention rather than hope. You make your own luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:41 PM
1

And the single motherhood epidemic has nothing to do with women’s hiring practices?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 06:52 PM
1

You literally had to flee everything your family knew. Thank you for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:25 PM
1

What does who your parents were before you were born have to do with your life situation? What does the economy before you were born have to do with economy of today?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 11:54 AM
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If that’s the case women need to financially support the men who are better looking than them. You want a piece of my fitness fatty, pony up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 11:49 AM
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Because most women consider most men not good enough to have it with. And even for the guys who do get sex, the emotional and financial cost of it is wildly different. The closest comparison would be having to have a PHD to get a job that hires other people for same role who only have a GED, because the PHD candidate is a certain ethnicity or political affiliation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 01:40 PM
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Women are an RPG character that has to choose one devastating perk to play by. Men have several less powerful perks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 01:38 PM
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It’s a difficult concept for most men below 8/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 01:35 PM
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So every university is equal? A state uni degree in basket weaving isn’t the same as a science degree from MIT. There’s a lot of theater majors working waiter jobs. Unless your profession needs it, no way a degree is better than a trade that pays 100k. This is coming from someone with a degree and totally separate unrelated training in a trade.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:31 PM
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I think you would be surprised at how many people with degrees are struggling, or how many people with degrees decided it wasn’t working out and then learned a trade or started a business unrelated to their degree. A degree isn’t a license to print money the way a lot of boomers seem to think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:15 PM
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So women’s studies is a real thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 09:14 PM
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40k with degree or 100k welder? Yea having a degree is so helpful? A degree is for specialized work ex: medicine,law, engineering. Most jobs don’t “require” a degree to do (though companies will ask). If you went 100k into debt for a job that takes 20 years to pay off, it better make you rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:42 PM
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Have not heard men complain they don’t get what they ask for?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 07:58 PM
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This is true but not because they “fear being judged.” They go all out sexually for the non-boyfriend because that is the guy they think is hot, and the guy they think is hot usually doesn’t commit to them. The boyfriend is usually a guy they settled for. Conversely when you are a man, the women who give you best sex usually aren’t your girlfriend, because they are women you aren’t that into, and consequently they feel below you so they try harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:53 PM
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This is a myth. Plenty of dirty girls out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:04 PM
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Animal husbandry applies to the human race.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 05:46 PM
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How does having a degree make you the “backbone of the workforce” when most jobs don’t require a degree, and many degrees are bullshit (ex: women’s studies)? Plenty of people who got degrees moved on to a trade that’s more lucrative and doesn’t use their degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 04:26 PM
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Deadbeat dads were never “part of the family” to walk out on. Most single mom’s got that way chasing a hot or exciting guy. If they had actually prioritized having a husband they wouldn’t be in that situation. Most marriages are ended by women. It’s women not making families followed by women breaking up families that is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 01:21 PM
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If you had the money to afford a surrogate there are women willing to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 01:13 PM
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Most women aren’t “taken” they are chasing some dude who they are sharing. Mentally it’s the same for them as being taken, their focus on what they can’t have manifests the same outcomes as being taken, short of the relationship. Modern women date on possibility not probability.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 01:12 PM
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If he’s 20, new sneakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:46 PM
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It’s not about being “unattractive” it’s about being “unattractive to HER.” If a woman doesn’t like Hispanics and Antonio Banderas circa Desperado asks for her number he’s a “creep.” If she doesn’t like black guys and Idris Elba asks for her number he’s a “creep.” If she doesn’t like white guys and Chris Hemsworth asks for her number he’s a “creep.” Creep is just any guy she doesn’t like for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:38 PM
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Disagree, women have to like you right away and familiarity breeds contempt from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:34 PM
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Dating for women = finding a meal at American grocery store Dating for men = sifting through trash on a dirt road in Somalia.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:53 PM
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Yes all the single mom’s and women having one night stands are surely demisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:51 PM
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Male introvert = weak, nerd, etc Female introvert = girl next door, down to earth, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:50 PM
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Men don’t marry exclusively on looks. If that were the case hot 40year old women would be chosen over average 25 year olds for marriage. It’s about reproductive viability, which looks are often an indicator of, but age is more of an indicator of.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:49 PM
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The problem is that is a shitty deal for men. Marriage is supposed to be two parties taking an equal risk. The women trades her current peak reproductive viability for men’s future highest salary year. They both take the chance that the man may become more valuable or not. Why would a man who wants children accept a woman who used her best years to become a mom on men who made no investment in her?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:21 PM
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The problem is women don’t have boundaries for hot men, and nothing but boundaries for regular men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:18 PM
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We need to normalize calling those women losers the way we call the worst of men losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:17 PM
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Lol single mom’s prioritizing competence? Women choose men on physical attraction and emotion until they hit the wall and lose ability to attract most desirable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:16 PM
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The real problem is men shouldn’t be giving those women attention in the first place. Really attractive women will date you if they like other things about you. It’s the average women who want a hot guy they have nothing in common with to validate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:11 PM
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Nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:17 PM
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You not liking it doesn’t make it untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:36 PM
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Women don’t try to find someone who is both, hence single moms. It’s men who usually think wife is hot not other ways around.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:46 PM
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It’s supposed to be their father if their mom chose properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:44 PM
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The backup guy is never equal to the current guy, he just has the the current guy doesn’t. If current guy is hot, the backup has money. Current guy has money, the backup is then hot. Most men don’t have it all, which is why women want a stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 02:54 AM
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Women don’t want to alienate the backup guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 01:40 AM
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Single moms choose who is worth it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:59 PM
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A lot of men want nothing to do with bars and clubs and for good reason. I notice urban women really want to meet men at bars and clubs. Like how is alcohol and poor lighting better than a convo at Barnes and Noble? They aren’t even trying to meet decent dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 04:50 PM
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Marriage isn’t about love, it’s about children. Love is the prerequisite. A woman I could fall in love with wouldn’t wait that long to find a suitable man, and would not prioritize career over family.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 01:10 PM
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Men don’t want frozen eggs, they want naturally viable women not sci-fi babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:04 PM
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It’s not just about “hotness” or else men would exclusively date hot cougars who are insatiable. The issue is men who want to build families don’t want a last minute baby with older women. Of course there are some 40 year old woman who take a better picture than women half their age, but they can’t have 3 kids as easily or safely as the younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:47 PM
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You don’t know men. You are promoting what you want, not what is reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:22 PM
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The same women who select to become single moms!? GTFO woman are choosing men to advance the species. Women don’t understand basic animal husbandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:37 PM
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Have you heard of single moms, typically they are extroverted women who make emotional and shallow decisions. They literally pick the men least interested in fatherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:35 PM
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Most men wouldn’t marry a woman who’s been married over equally hot never married option.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:24 PM
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I agree with the post, but for most of homo Sapien history it was understood women shared too guys. I would imagine that instinct to want a taken guy comes with the instinct to believe you can share a taken guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:22 PM
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It’s not a fear about being used for millions. If you have 2 million not a big deal to split it. If you make 100k and have to pay 20k alimony that’s brutal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:19 PM
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It’s not a fear about being used for millions. If you have 2 million not a big deal to split it. If you make 100k and have to pay 20k alimony that’s brutal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:19 PM
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Child support not existing would be good for everyone, would would actually have to choose men who want to be good humans beings rather than fucking who they think it’s hot because daddy government will enforce good behavior at taxpayer’s expense. Everyone women recreational fuck deadbeats everyone’s tax dollars are waisted at the law enforcement and family court level.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:18 PM
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Yes it is when you choose to pick shitty men for shitty reasons. Get your priorities in line and choose suitable men for marriage. Most divorces are initiated by women, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 03:14 PM
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Most men want to be fathers, but aren’t sexually exciting enough for women. Women choose men on “chemistry” aka sexual attraction and look where it gets them. Most single moms are extroverts who make emotional decisions, not widows. Most deadbeat dads aren’t college grads or the captain of the chess team.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:41 PM
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What do you think the yoga pants craze is all about?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:28 PM
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Some men prioritize booty over boobies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:01 PM
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Statistically most men won’t murder you. Anecdotally most men are afraid to say good morning let alone commit an assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:00 PM
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For sex not marriage. Hot guys are not marrying fat girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:22 PM
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Typically you can’t have both, hot women (even the smart ones) will pick hot-dumb guys without fail until their SMV dries up. Hot-dumb guys are women’s favorite.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:17 PM
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There are sex workers from middle class and upper class families. A lot of them like easy fast money and the attention. They aren’t all “victims.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:15 PM
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In my experience sexual compatibility has been more about desire of frequency than desire of “acts.” One person always wants it more often is usually the problem, but sometimes it’s about what is or isn’t on the menu.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 06:45 PM
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Men would prefer to not be with desperate women, which one would think are more manipulatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 06:43 PM
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Imagine if the guy use to pay for everything but now prefers to save his money?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:30 PM
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She swallowed because the other guy was more valuable to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:29 PM
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Assuming you aren’t American? We don’t like government or popular opinion. We prefer what we prefer. Try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 02:16 PM
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Women are taught possibility not probability. Every life plan they have is rooted in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 08:34 PM
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A dude with reasonable fitness is actually average now, you need to be ripped for it to matter. Just not being fat as a woman is bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 08:30 PM
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You had unprotected sex with a shitty guy. Women in control marry good men and make good families instead of becoming a statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 12:08 PM
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You’re a single mom, you were NEVER in control.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 11:15 PM
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Does that mean 1 child only? Or are there guys with 5 kids skewing the data?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 11:13 PM
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How about teaching boys not all women are special.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 11:09 PM
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Paul Walker is dead, and when he was alive he dated a chick his daughters age so…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 08:25 PM
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No, the reason dating and marriage are bad is because there is no reasonable social contract for men and women. Women are being taught that they deserve the best without being the best. Whether it’s “manifesting” their dream man or following “the law of attraction” they don’t understand you get what you negotiate for and what you are qualified for. Imagine if most men chose not to pursue a normal career because they could “manifest” a spot in NBA? This is how women treat dating. Marriage was int…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 08:22 PM
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A lot of women are used Kias.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 08:28 PM
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Well if you don’t want to go college and expect a job that requires a PHD then you have to lower your standards to get hired somewhere. This whole “demand what you deserve” and “manifesting” bullshit that’s fed to young women is a lie. You get what you negotiate and have credentials for.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 07:41 PM
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Well if you don’t want to go college and expect a job that requires a PHD then you have to lower your standards to get hired somewhere. This whole “demand what you deserve” and “manifesting” bullshit that’s fed to young women is a lie. You get what you negotiate and have credentials for.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 07:41 PM
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Brutal
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/03/22 07:55 PM
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YouTube kevin samuels, it’s actually more like 90/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 07:30 PM
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I mean he’s on supermodel number 103 at this point so…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 07:29 PM
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No it’s about reproductive viability. Being younger doesn’t guarantee you are attractive as a woman, plenty of hot 40 year old babes exist. It’s the ability to have kids the younger woman has that puts ball in her court.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 07:22 PM
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Saying in my friend group is like saying “in my friend group everyone has a full fridge why are there hungry people?”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 07:13 PM
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Ask women what they want, statistically those qualities are small percentile. Watch any episode of Kevin Samuels when he has female guests.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 11:17 AM
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No, large pool of women passed around by small pool of men. 100 women + 100 men does not = 100 coupled pairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 10:25 AM
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If women want survival why do they constantly maintain a bonfire of natural resources while making bad choices? Most of their problems come from choices that make them vulnerable. Actual masculine men don’t want to see women good women in vulnerable scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 12:38 PM
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They don’t want to alienate the beta safety net.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 12:34 PM
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But a short term guy is usually hot and poor, so simply a reasonable about of money would fix his problem. The long term guy may never get enough money to buy himself into alpha status. If your weakness is being broke that can be fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:17 PM
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It can be either or, the should part is the question. If you want a successful family you need to date with intention. Liking the same booze, entertainment, and other superficial things will only go so far. There has to be mutual goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:11 PM
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Being a hoe isn’t attractive. Men sleeping with you doesn’t make you attractive, men staying with you does.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 11:51 AM
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What would make sense is a percentile calculator? You want this kind of man and they represent XYZ percent of population, and then allow filter by age. Let women see just how many 6ft millionaires there are by age😭
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 01:20 AM
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There’s a sci-fi show Y the last man, where women are battling each other for the last man on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 11:27 PM
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Women’s “preferences” create a lack of experience gap within their peer group that is the mortar of the wall they hit at 30. Sharing a small group of men during 20s and then expecting a man from the larger group you previously priced out is what marriage was created to prevent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 04:55 PM
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Women see sex and pregnancy as an entitlement. They can’t wrap their mind around why a decent man who wants kids doesn’t want to come in second to their baby daddy who is a felon.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 10:36 PM
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Just curious why? If you are vegan you aren’t a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 10:31 PM
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If women don’t want most men why would they care about men watching it? The dudes rolling in women can be bothered with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 10:29 PM
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In America women have more options. In many countries there is still a strong culture of being “unwifeable” and women move to places like the US to capitalize on thirst without limits.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 10:27 PM
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Have you heard of onlyfans? It’s literally women living off socially inept men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 10:26 PM
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It depends, in big cities the women have no problem amassing 100+ by thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 12:42 AM
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Liberal women in their 30s love to talk about “having it all but not finding a good enough man.” They usually lead with their academic or professional accomplishments. There is a TED talk about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 03:05 PM
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Why would you care if your employer requires a masters degree from you but a G.E.D. from coworker in same position?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 02:15 PM
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Women are mocked for thinking their accomplishments outweigh men’s actual wants and needs, not for having accomplishments. It’s great that women have careers, but bragging about your career and thinking it entitled you to men’s attention is the equivalent of men who complain women don’t appreciate their video game skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 02:13 PM
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The natural way of things is violent, I don’t think that’s a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 10:33 PM
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The millions of single moms saw red flags?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 10:29 PM
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It’s not thinking, it’s observing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 09:21 PM
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What does the average woman have to offer?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:41 PM
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As opposed to all the one word one line messages women send?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:36 PM
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The problem is men who want lots of female friends tend to be 1) less masculine guys 2) guys playing a numbers game. Masculine men want friends “that can hang,” someone to keep up in a drinking game and back them up when shit gets crazy. We don’t need a “sister.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:33 PM
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The problem is men who want lots of female friends tend to be 1) less masculine guys 2) guys playing a numbers game. Masculine men want friends “that can hang,” someone to keep up in a drinking game and back them up when shit gets crazy. We don’t need a “sister.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:33 PM
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Just because it isn’t a commodity to you doesn’t mean it isn’t one. I might have a garden bursting with tomatoes I’m trying to get rid of, but someone who doesn’t know gardening and loves tomatoes is going to see me as “tomato rich.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 11:01 PM
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Nailed. It’s like women who think tattoos are hot on men don’t get they are usually crap on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 10:58 PM
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The wall is tied to reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:23 PM
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It’s only “dual mating” if kids are on the table. Men need to collectively vote with their dollars and refuse to have kids with women past their reproductive peak. She doesn’t deserve your highest salary year if you didn’t get her best eggs. Also marriage should be no divorce allowed and penalty for breaking vows. That would level the playing field all around. The problem with dual mating is men getting less of women’s reproductive potential while the woman gets more and more of his financial po…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:19 PM
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How about just life consequences? No social services safety net and no mandatory child support. Put women in a situation where they have to vet guys for long term. The problem isn’t “teaching them” it’s them having zero accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:08 PM
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Disagree. The metoo movement has made approaching an other worldly act. I would be glad for a woman to let me know she’s normal and feeling me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:06 PM
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Before you have consensual sex, try meeting the guys family. Try talking to him about what he wants rather than hooking up with random hot guys. No one owes you anything. Plenty of men want to be dads, women just don’t want those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 09:01 PM
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Before you have consensual sex, try meeting the guys family. Try talking to him about what he wants rather than hooking up with random hot guys. No one owes you anything. Plenty of men want to be dads, women just don’t want those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 09:01 PM
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If she was responsible she would have dated someone responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:50 PM
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You sound like an irresponsible woman. If you choose Ricky the dealer over Danny the doctor, and the dealer leaves you it’s on you. You have full control of who your kid’s dad is when you consent to sex with good people. What you are basically saying is women have no obligation to pick good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 06:56 PM
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If you hire a shitty babysitter and they fuck up it’s on you. If you hire a shitty daycare worker and they fuckup it’s on you. If you fuck criminals and losers and have their kid it’s on you. Women choose men based on looks and other shallow reasons before a man has established any chance of willingness to commit. How many single moms in high school got pregnant by the football team captain vs the chess club captain?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 06:32 PM
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Promiscuity leads to single motherhood, the sons of single moms are LITERALLY more likely to commit violent crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 10:09 PM
0

What about the wet blanket types who “can’t say no?”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 07:02 PM
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Can we lie to you about salary and intentions?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 07:01 PM
-1

You didn’t do anything because the guy would have fucked you up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:10 PM
1

What you fail to understand in this post is regardless of birth control (it can fail), sex is rolling the dice on possibly having kids. If we want kids with a woman, why would we try hard for someone who rolled the dice when they were most likely to get pregnant for someone offering no commitment. A lot of people are taking for granted men’s interest in family and the value of women’s reproductive viability. When a man brings this up the woke mob wants to shame. But if a woman wants to date with…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 09:14 PM
3

Most people don’t casually hike (coming from a hiker).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 09:11 PM
3

I think more accurately men want to be judged by the mode. Like what is actually the most of that is out there and how do they compare?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:31 PM
2

Did you even read the title of the post “A liberal upbringing..?” So the parents are only liberal about dating but nothing else? You damn well know my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:12 PM
5

The post is about liberal upbringing being positive, I brought up the fact that liberal cities are the most violent, so positive could that upbringing actually be?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:47 PM
56

Women discuss men in the context of men they would consider. When they complain about how they got treated it’s not by all men, but the pool of men they are willing to consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:33 PM
4

Cities are liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:30 PM
0

Most people can walk into a pizzeria with 5 bucks and leave with a slice and a coke. That is how easy women get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:56 PM
2

Really only two kinds of cheating men: 1) guy who has so many options there is no reason to commit 2) guy in passionless relationship who randomly gets attention from a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:52 PM
5

So the “inner city” men most likely to commit violence against women, is their liberal background included or do you consider them conservative republicans?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:50 PM
0

Peak reproductive viability in exchange for future peak economic productivity, death penalty for cheating, no divorce. Someone who has to struggle to get pregnant due to old age doesn’t get my highest salary. Women get many perks, but time isn’t one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:12 PM
1

Why would a guy lawyer marry a lawyer? How will she have time to be a mom?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:06 PM
4

“Relationships they thought were forever?” That’s called marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:13 AM
2

If I was a women preg with a loser criminals kid I would have an abortion before my next breath. Women don’t seem to understand that no guy with options wants single moms who gave the highest honor to scumbags. Like I get it if your baby daddy died in a car accident and you have to move on. But why should we want to raise some felons kid because you thought he was hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:12 AM
1

All relationships are transactional, not necessarily financially transactional. I would argue the time is worse than the money cost. That being said, the problem isn’t it being transactional, but one way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 11:36 PM
2

Men typically don’t lose masculinity they gain it. Feminist is preserved until lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:37 PM
1

A lot of men want to do things for women, we don’t want to do things for certain kinds of women. Simps lower the quality of women while raising the price. Simps are the government subsidy of the dating world that make it hard for legit individuals to compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:30 PM
0

Men date with guns, women date with nukes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:25 PM
1

How can the person not expected to pay for dates feel they are beneath the person paying?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:24 PM
2

Women profile by gender the way cops profile by race. A small group of men are repeat offenders, but men as a whole are to blame?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:22 PM
4

Of course men give a shit about families. This is exactly why we can’t stand women who sleep and breed with deadbeats.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 01:01 PM
4

It’s like going to college for 100k of debt and knowing most likely you are living off 40k salary indefinitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 03:09 PM
2

Hypergamy is in relation to their agenda, different women have different agendas.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 02:14 PM
1

Women don’t believe it’s wrong. That is their plausible deniability scheme. It’s convenient if the friend is hot banker and inconvenient if he looks like Danny Devito and drivers for Uber. Which in the latter case he should be thankful to give her rides in exchange for breathing her air.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:32 PM
6

These women have an employer to employee mentality. They see themselves as above men. Rules for thee not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:30 PM
1

These women have an employer to employee mentality. They seen themselves as above men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:30 PM
0

Fertility correlated to looks
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:07 PM
1

2 kinds of confidence: 1) competence based (ex: black belts, marathoners, navy seals, brain surgeons etc) 2) self delusion: every hood guy with no life skills who thinks he’s the next big rapper to be
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:59 PM
2

Remember, women think they deserve an upgrade after they have downgraded themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:55 PM
3

This is why men don’t want to befriend women, it’s like you are giving them sister/wife privileges when they are neither. It’s a natural instinct to want to be there for women who are there for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:52 PM
5

Guy in his 30s who dates in both directions here, there are plenty of hot cougars who men would choose for sex over fat blue haired 25 year olds. A feminine cougar is way sexier than women’s studies major. That being said I’m not saying every older woman is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 12:01 AM
1

Close, men are hypergamous about fertility, which looks are an indicator of among other things. If it was just about looks and sex we’d exclusively date hot divorced cougars who just want to party.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 11:43 PM
3

Being mad at men wanting sex is like being mad at dogs for wanting tennis balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:26 PM
8

What if she initiates divorce and he hasn’t done anything wrong? Because she is not in love anymore she gets half his money?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:25 PM
3

We might not be a hive mind but we have different species of ants that act predictably with respect to species. Like bro/sorority girl culture, gym rats, and such are a lot of like regardless of the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:13 PM
7

The people you speak of aren’t players in the purple pill game. The hetero male female dynamic is what civilization runs on. Gender is only complex for small portion of the planet who cries all the time and dyes their hair shades of skittle.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:10 PM
1

Most dudes can’t find a girl. While it isn’t a problem for me and men who can, it does effect society. Men who aren’t friends with women tend to masculine men with masculine hobbies. It isn’t so much they don’t want to be friends with women, they don’t want to be friends with people who can’t hang. If a guy is a bad ass he wants everyone in group to be bad ass. If you like to go hiking and running you typically don’t hang with fat asses.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:04 PM
1

PUA’s are running the male equivalent of stripper game, not standups.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:29 PM
3

Women think the man they say yes to owes them. They don’t understand you are supposed to yes the man who already did right by you. They literally expect men they sleep with to give them whatever they want on their terms after the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:23 PM
2

You’re labeled because you couldn’t see past his looks and status to understand how he was “morally bankrupt” since you first met.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:22 PM
1

Then women have to pay for dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:46 AM
1

You are talking about the people who rescue Pitbulls.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:21 PM
1

Yea but VR porn is like a year away from replacing what most women have to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:20 PM
1

More accurately who they put out for. If they actually dated respectable men the average guy would be less bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:17 PM
1

Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:15 PM
2

Wanting to focus on children of your own isn’t loathing children. Especially when single moms have kids with the worst of men. Like sorry I don’t want to raise scumbags dna.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:13 PM
1

Vagina’s vary just like penises. Some penises are more in demand than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:11 PM
4

Agreed. A lot of guys shot themselves in the foot by giving casual to less attractive women during their 20s, now those broads have inflated egos in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:06 PM
0

Telling men who want dates to share their feelings with other men really isn’t helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:05 PM
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There was a time in human history before birth control and condoms where sex was actually a big deal and risky, so women had a lot of grounds and just cause to expect and command certain things from men. Fast forward to now, women still maintain traditional expectations while bearing little risk and offering no traditional benefits to men on their end. You want want wife privileges? Act like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:27 PM
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I wish people concerned about age gaps were that concerned about all the other shitty relationship combos. Like no one seems to care when it’s a guy a year older utterly abusing, taking advantage, getting women pregnant and leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:04 AM
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Then why do fit guys attract fatties?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:01 AM
2

Friends with a women basically means being her husband without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:28 AM
0

Pre birth control prices for post birth control pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:22 AM
11

What woman isn’t transactional? They keep friends around for store discounts, Netflix passwords, and want the best men. All of those things are prices they set.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:18 AM
3

Ask yourself this: Would he do this for his sister or mom? If so, what makes you as relevant to him as a family member? If you aren’t actually “close” with a guy why is he doing stuff for you that’s reserved for family? Because he wants to make a family with you!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:17 AM
3

So responsibility is 50/50 but abortion choice is 100/0?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:21 PM
1

I saw it on a pamphlet, I don’t subscribe but in a lord of the rings type way I see what they mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:21 AM
1

Are you not aware that sperm sells for $200 and eggs sell for $20,000? Of course there is a different standard for women being easy, just like a 100 lb chick smacking a 200lb guy is slightly less shitty than the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:19 AM
0

I doubt Jordan Peterson pulls more than Richard Gere. All Richard talks about is the Dali Lama.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:16 AM
1

It goes back to hunter gatherer times. You couldn’t talk too much and be alpha. Hunters had to be men of action, short on words, able to communicate concisely through body language.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:13 AM
3

Exactly, it’s better to be hot than a good guy, I think you just proved what a lot of others have been getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:12 AM
2

Because women are charging pre-birth control prices for post-birth control pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:00 AM
2

Some women think average is 100k a year and 6 feet tall + ____________ (random thing).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:58 AM
3

Also I don’t think it’s a matter of “boyfriend material” vs hookup. It’s this: If you are a certain level of hot you get free sex from women. If you aren’t that level, they need to figure out what they will extract from you in exchange for sex. It isn’t always about money either. Sometimes it isn’t even money (which can be worse) it’s you being a stepping stone to something else (personal or professional) or being willing to listen to her bull shit, fix her mom’s shitty car, really the sky is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:54 AM
8

Saint / Brute complex. Repelled by saints, wet by brutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:50 AM
3

Who do women here want to date men who see them as disposable?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:16 AM
3

It’s really an American problem. In other countries it’s cut and dry who is and isn’t wifeable. The white liberal betas have really let the skittle-haired-harpies run this country into the grown. Sincerely based Latino.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:14 AM
4

Why are they sleeping with guys they are not comfortable with?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:12 AM
5

How would you feel if your coach gave a shittier player prime time on the court over you? Or if your employer gave bonuses to people who abused call out system?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:10 AM
2

1) Women can’t pass on hot guys. 2) Women don’t believe they have to incentivize men. 3)Children are an entitlement for women, they can’t conceptualize the value or gravity of their peak reproductive viability. They can’t see why a good guy would be mad that a felon got their best eggs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:08 AM
1

If the guy with service job has a higher IQ than you (proven via testing) would you be ok with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:05 AM
1

People on here are talking about college like everyone who graduates leaves with an epic career tier job offer. The reality is most people are going to be a glorified assistant in their field for rest of their life while hoping for occasional raise. Myself and plenty of other people did and do better becoming entrepreneurs rather than using degree to succeed (unless you are going into medicine/science).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:01 AM
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Educated women think they are in demand like the guys who beat Halo on Legendary using only melee strikes thinks he is hot shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:56 PM
-2

Correct this to 20 to 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:49 PM
0

Do you honestly believe college educated matters? I have a college degree and have dated those with and without. You are gonna pass on a fun/cute/reliable woman with blue collar job for a women’s studies major? Stop selling the narrative that everyone with a degree is magically competent. Some of the biggest whores I know went to college with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:47 PM
3

I thinks it’s worse with the women in the middle of the curve. The mid tier women think they are one new outfit away from landing a 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:36 PM
2

Everyone here think of the most trustworthy guy you know, he probably gets laid the least. Women hate honesty, it runs contrary to their need for plausible deniability.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:29 PM
1

It’s called “dine and dash.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:27 PM
3

The top men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:23 PM
15

The real problem is women offering nothing but sex while wanting everything, and then expecting men not to obsess over who gets it and when.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:45 PM
2

Yes! They are charging pre birth control prices for post birth control pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:44 PM
7

Simping is mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:42 PM
2

It only takes one crazy hot girl to teach men boring is the move.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:38 PM
4

If you demand commitment and resources from a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:35 PM
13

This post is best summed up as Women = employer Men = employees Employer should be allowed to pull whatever that need to while employees should be willing to die for the company.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:34 PM
3

The lord qualifies who he sends, he doesn’t send who is qualified.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:32 PM
1

So it’s ok for women to just want sex, but not ok for me to just want sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:31 PM
5

I think the topic here isn’t withholding in general as a practice, but withholding for “relationship type guys.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:30 PM
3

What guy doesn’t place a premium on sex? It’s just that some guys more than others have access to said premium. Women are deluding themselves thinking decent guys magically need less sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:28 PM
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It’s a bad business practice. You can’t run a company by giving bonuses to people who habitually call out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:26 PM
-4

Life of the party is not a masculine trait, in that regard women are looking for socially feminine man. Life of the party guy is like a woman who legit likes sports aside from thinking athletes are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:25 PM
-1

Almost as if men are meant to take abuse and risk it all because life doesn’t grow inside them, and women are programmed for self preservation and life creation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:20 PM
1

Women lie to get commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:31 PM
18

Women’s idea of average is 3rd place out of 100.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 06:41 PM
2

Women take the value of their peak reproductive viability and first child for granted, in fact it’s an entitlement to them. They don’t get that marriage is an exchange of their peak reproductive viability for a man’s future peak economic productivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:06 PM
1

What about the men who are watching because the regular looking chick they are with never wants to bang? Women’s sex drives vary. The same man could date 10 different with consecutively and they give very different experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:43 PM
2

No the problem is that it makes men less willing to put up with their bullshit to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:43 PM
116

It’s not the gym culture as much as the juice culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:40 PM
3

Yesterday at park with my dog, I hear this fat chick tell her friend that some dude makes a lot but not quite enough for her. This is how women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:38 PM
1

Women create the need. They chase hot guys until they settle on safe option, then get mad when safe option wants to see attractive women having enthusiastic sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:36 PM
1

What’s wrong with you dating a short broke bald guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:32 PM
0

What you don’t get is that our economic system is contingent on men playing nice because they think they have a shot at the dream so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:30 AM
1

There are more hot women than hot men, that’s why women who want hot guys have to share.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:13 AM
7

Women need plausible deniability, and to pretend to be classy in case a husband comes along.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:06 AM
5

That’s the same as women who want a vibrator in bed, but the analogy is lost on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:58 AM
2

They still have to pay for men to provide services.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:54 AM
4

That’s the religion of peace, not incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:52 AM
1

Nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:52 AM
2

Lots of men don’t like that, and plenty of women want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:50 AM
2

A lot of women with vibrators and dildos are anti porn. Imagine telling a chick her vag is shit compared to a flesh light?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:49 AM
4

What if the guy just thinks you are easy and knows he won’t commit to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:47 AM
1

Well you can buy shares at 1.00 in hopes they will later trade for 100.00 or even 1,000.00
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 03:42 PM
5

What women need to know is that men who want children see your first child as highest honor. Why should we give you more for less? Most single moms have kids with scumbags, give the best version of themselves away, and then expected a Prince Charming , that’s a terrible deal for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 03:39 PM
3

Women can’t accept this fact because then they would have to choose men logically.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 03:37 PM
1

The single mother wasn’t emotionally ready to pick the right man for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 03:37 PM
3

In my experience most women see dating as one way market place. They have a very specific guy in mind but never stop to consider their own place in the market. Men learn early in life most of us have to make shit happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 03:35 PM
1

I had women say no at 25 come back when I got huge promotion at 30, so yea it does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 06:24 PM
1

Women spend 18 to 30 alienating their peers and then expect the same pool of men to marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 06:17 PM
1

What about men who women don’t want to marry until they are 40? Are they supposed to turn women down?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:56 PM
1

Kevlar and CCTV are two good ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 01:29 PM
1

They love religion. You know how many catholic girls will whore around in a cross? Or Muslim women drinking and having casual sex while claiming they love their culture? Women hate rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:03 PM
1

The problem is cultural. Just like there is a culture of how to treat employees, and it’s different now than it was in past.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:02 PM
1

I agree with all this. Another way to put it is some people are rich or poor socially. Women tend to be rich socially more than men. Being poor socially is just as bad (maybe worse) than poor economically.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 01:43 PM
1

Exactly more guys prefer loyal 7 to hoe 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 01:25 PM
31

Bro you don’t just base masculinity on celebs you will never meet. Folks are talking about the decline amongst everyday guys who are less manly than their grandpa was.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 05:55 PM
1

Touché
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:43 PM
1

Attractive women date who they prioritize, which may or may not be equally photogenic man. I find it’s the average women who have most impossible requirements. They need a man to raise their status.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:42 PM
1

Actually there is a big 5 personality model that uses percent scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:29 PM
1

Socially awkward woman = down to earth/approachable Socially awkward man = might as well have plague
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:37 PM
2

Online dating isn’t meant to be a cure, it’s a pain killer (that actually creates more pain).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:32 PM
5

How many single mom’s got pregnant from chess team captain VS football team captain?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:35 PM
4

Of course not, the sons of single moms are more likely to commit domestic violence and partner homicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 12:44 AM
9

You are missing the point. Criminals are going to be CRIMINALS. Don’t put yourself in danger, that doesn’t mean the criminal is without blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:19 PM
2

Why are the police so obsessed with the demographics committing the most crime? Why are doctors obsessed with the people most comprised? Why are car insurance adjusters obsessed with the people most likely to get in crashes?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:01 PM
2

Find a guy in your position that wants to get fit with you. Get hot together.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:00 PM
1

You are a spiritual advisor!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:58 PM
13

You don’t blame wolves if your babysitter leaves your kid with wolves. You aren’t going to shame violent criminals into good behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:57 PM
1

I’m sure a threesome would be boring to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:34 PM
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The men they have sex with are the men they respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:14 PM
1

The men they have sex with are the men they respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:14 PM
5

They usually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:06 PM
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Imagine applying for a job, and they are like “one day when the guy we hired royally fucks up we will call you.” That is less worse than the friend zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:59 PM
1

This is true, but women also don’t understand what the big deal is around potentially having a kid and how it relates to the issue. Women see children as an entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 11:51 AM
1

Yes, they are called single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 11:41 PM
1

Bret Weinstein scientist/professor gives better explanation than me, it’s on Joe Rogan podcast I’ll try to find what episode.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 12:00 PM
2

Most women don’t get this. They just turn 40 and have cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 11:41 PM
3

Game for women is gaining access to a man’s peak economic productivity without providing her peak reproductive viability.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 11:40 PM
2

Actually hot, biologically speaking is a woman built in a physical way that lends itself to low paternal investment. Women with curves who are “hot” are those more likely to carry pregnancy to term during famine or if abandoned. The less curvy but still “beautiful” women need men to stick around during famine in order to successfully give birth. It’s the animal husbandry of the species whether people want to acknowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 11:24 PM
1

Can’t have a father if you didn’t start with a mother. Having a baby doesn’t make you a mother. A true mother wouldn’t go near that type of a guy. They wouldn’t get pregnant by someone who hadn’t established a commitment with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 11:16 PM
1

Online dating is for men who don’t have women falling over them in public, and there is no shame in that. Online dating is also generally for men who don’t want to approach women out of awkwardness or fear of being labeled aggressive, and there is no shame in that. Women’s problem comes from not comprising. They don’t see each man as a trade off, they want it all regardless that they don’t have it all to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:04 PM
2

Hot women being insecure doesn’t necessarily mean guys have a shot with them. Though from personal experience hot women will date a guy who isn’t hot if they like other standout qualities. It’s the average women need a top guy to validate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:00 PM
1

Women literally get dressed like strippers to go to clubs! Common folks stop letting them gaslight you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:14 PM
1

If you think women don’t influence men with their sexuality you are incompetent. It’s a daily occurrence that has gone on for thousands of years. Women try to bribe men with the chance of sex for all sorts of things from free dinner, promotions, access to things and more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:11 PM
1

Will you extend this to government and media?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:07 PM
1

Pornbrain? What about dildos the size of arms and rocket powered vibrators? At least men aren’t asking to use a flashlight in bed when there is a real woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:05 PM
-1

If the guy is giving them money or time, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 12:54 PM
23

But that’s not what most women mean when they say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 12:51 PM
11

Because wife material means first choice, husband material means settling, and a shitty sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 12:45 PM
2

Why are you playing tennis with such a mismatched partner? Also guys don’t want to be your buddy or substitute bro, common now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:46 PM
1

This is why men don’t want to “date women.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:44 PM
1

Most women aren’t an option for most men so of course it’s like that. If you took a Samolian to Walmart they would think it’s Disney World.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:37 PM
-1

Masculine men don’t want female friends. Masculine men want to be around other men equally as capable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:34 PM
5

Large pool of women shares small pool of men that don’t have to try or commit, then complains about being unfulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 01:29 PM
1

Yea but based on your resume you are rich, you could be making 200k which is a lot to most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 06:55 PM
1

The children of single mothers are more likely to commit violence as adults, especially domestic,
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:44 PM
3

Yes, women think being confident is acting like the wolf of Wall Street. They latch on to the behaviors of the worst men and yell “if they can do it so can I” meanwhile most men don’t act like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:15 PM
3

I don’t think people believe like assholes, they are implying women overlook bad behavior if the asshole has looks/money/status etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:14 PM
3

Is love a need? No, but it’s good to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:10 PM
6

Look at leagues in terms of baggage. Lots of single mom’s trying to find a childless man for a fresh start, but they can’t give the man a fresh start.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:11 PM
1

Brilliant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 01:56 PM
1

It’s only beta buxing if she isn’t attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 12:54 PM
5

Well there are plenty of guys making 100k who would be better of with McDonald’s worker than women’s studies major.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:30 PM
2

The problem is there are two distinct kinds of female ambition: Woman 1: Gets a masters/PHD/or even a trade certification, kicks ass at her job, shuts up about work by dinner time. Woman 2: Same credentials, but wants to be know as number 1 in her field, destroys all her relationships including with her children, because she must become number 1 sales rep, or surgeon, blah blah blah. It’s the equivalent of dating a guy in a band who thinks the world revolves around his music or is pursuing a car…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:16 PM
5

Polyamory is for sexual geeks. No regular dude wants to share women long term, and if he does he isn’t giving commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:04 PM
1

You know how there are millionaires and homeless people, same deal? Only a small group can afford multiple homes while some can afford no home.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:03 PM
4

I think he’s saying we need a “Better Booty Bureau” to promote best practices.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 02:16 PM
2

Imagine the women who use George Lucas level makeup being worried that a man isn’t “authentic!”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 07:42 PM
1

If you control for looks objectively without taking personal preference into account, a lot of the 9s and 10s will give a lower dude a shot who is fun to be around or fulfills other criteria. It’s the women who are 6/7/8 who are the worst, they think are one gym and shopping trip away from becoming Beyoncé and need the validation of a top guy they don’t even like.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 06:28 PM
1

I respect your ability to negotiate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 06:20 PM
4

Yea it’s like saying nobody gets hired through LinkedIn or social media 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 06:15 PM
2

Taller is totally part of hypergamy, look at online dating profiles, many mention specific height requirements, women act stupid around tall guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 06:13 PM
0

There is a lot of cougar content out there, also you are probably pretty so why wouldn’t they want you, but they aren’t going to give it all up to marry you, and if they did it would probably end in divorce, don’t delude yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 06:05 PM
2

Gold diggers typically get guys to get them a maid and cook, that’s part of the barrier for entry. Though I’ve seen a few do a fake attempt at being domestic to lure guys in.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 06:03 PM
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Women’s pickiness leads them to choosing men with most options who won’t commit to them. There is no shortage of men who want to be fathers, it’s just that women want hot dudes who have no reason to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 06:01 PM
1

I wonder if you’ve looked into what actual percent of men that is, and what actual percentile of woman you are? You need to be able to sink baskets at will to join the NBA.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 06:00 PM
0

Society won’t collapse instantly, it’s a slow burn of men checking out because they feel like they have no hope of having a good family life. Over time there will be less men (or at least less qualified men) taking on important roles in infrastructure. Why be a cop to defend society if you are stuck at the bottom, why be a firefighter if you will never own a house, why rescue the woman in danger if you will never have a wife and child? This is something people really take for granted. And those …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 05:51 PM
4

I’ve never heard men say they “want” a career woman but I have heard them say they would date one. Women actually claim to want nice guys, they don’t say they are open to dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:17 PM
1

The worse is all the white collar women doing bullshit office jobs who think they made it, but they’re basically a glorified assistant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:20 PM
2

And this is why women end up alone
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:22 PM
3

The thing about pump and dump, is the implication that a single act of commitment free sex is somehow a win for a man but not a women. The women complaining about pump and dump can’t even see how they contribute to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:14 PM
1

But don’t women do that as well? Women literally say “why can’t meet a guy who has my degree or salary range.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:52 PM
1

The advantage attractive men have over attractive women is that women don’t mind sharing. There are more women willing to share Jay-Z than there are men willing to share Beyoncé, it’s biology. Egg donation costs 20x what sperm donation costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:10 PM
2

For most men and women this system would yield better odds. Funny how it kind of sounds like marriage? The problem is women do the hiring and they like to roll the dice based on emotion. Women don’t want “cute couples” they want “power couples.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 02:35 PM
2

For most men and women this system would yield better odds. Funny how it kind of sounds like marriage? The problem is women do the hiring and they like to roll the dice based on emotion. Women don’t want “cute couples” they want “power couples.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 02:35 PM
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A lot of women like to eat out (but aren’t actual foodies). They just want the perceived glamour of going out. Some of the women I’ve dated who were most interested in eating out had worst pallet and actual food knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 02:30 PM
3

Actually women with good eggs can sell them for thousands, while other cannot so….
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:46 PM
-1

So women don’t care about who men reward with free meals, trips, gifts, and time?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:50 PM
1

Violent criminals can’t and won’t be stopped via shame tactics, that’s now how to deal with them. The fact you believe shame is that powerful means you are a woman, it’s women who are controlled by shame, not men. Violent men need to be dispatched in their first moment of violence so they don’t reoffend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:47 PM
3

One night stand is highest honor. It’s literally a women saying “you are so special it’s worth risking immediate safety, reputation damage, and more”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:28 PM
5

People have no concept of what it takes to run a society. They think it’s an entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:23 PM
1

Money
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 07:00 PM
1

Modern American Women (let’s be honest liberal) only want commitment after they pass their reproductive prime, a single guy with no kids wants the women MOST able to make kids!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 01:44 PM
1

Short guys need MONEY
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 01:39 PM
1

Women claiming they don’t need men is like rich people claiming they don’t need workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:50 PM
2

Except women’s “standards” are a form of crony capitalism facilitated by social safety nets created for them alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:49 PM
1

No, women only have children to offer, specifically during peek reproductive viability, ANY of them can have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 04:44 PM
2

They don’t understand the big picture, or that there is a periodic table of elements for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 04:33 PM
2

It’s about ticking boxes. I would bet more women choose bald guy with a life or loser with long hair. Just like men would choose a cool regular chick over the top only fans thot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 03:52 PM
1

It’s not about being like men, it’s about being like the WORST of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 02:35 PM
1

Beauty + sexual past strongly correlated with reproductive viability and health. I don’t get why people have a hard time getting this, men trade a commitment of peak productivity for a commitment of peak reproductive access. Each party doesn’t fulfill their end at the same time, which is why there has to be agreement, the woman gives the guy kids, in exchange he sticks around forever and eventually she benefits from his highest salary year(s) and long term success. It’s super straightforward.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 08:10 PM
1

Most don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 08:07 PM
2

Why are you friends with fuck boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 07:39 PM
10

But why did you tell him no? Why is he only good enough to be your friend but not find companionship with another woman you claim is also your friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 07:39 PM
0

Because their friends are peers, women hate their peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 07:35 PM
1

Most of the women I’ve ever been “friends” with have been possessive of me to the level of full on cock blocker, except for one life long friend who set me up with her cousin who she knew was a good match for me. A lot of women befriend guys they want for later or just in case, while complaining about orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 07:33 PM
3

I love the crowd of people selling the idea that it doesn’t matter who women have kids with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:06 PM
4

A tattoo is like putting a bumper sticker on a ferrari
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 05:04 PM
1

This makes no sense, they leave bars and parties with guys just met.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 12:37 PM
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If you bring up the demographic most likely to steal or commit murder you are a racist, but implying any man could be a rapist some how isn’t sexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 12:35 PM
2

Finding out he spent a fortune on his ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:33 PM
2

Finding out the guy spent his fortune on the ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:31 PM
1

Women could give a fuck about character, they literally choose guys based on who is hot, exciting, or rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 07:48 PM
0

That’s like saying your friends should think my buddy who games online 5 hours a day is hot because he donates to charity every year and volunteers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 07:47 PM
2

The fisherman knows more about fish than the fish do. He knows bass live a different life than minnows, what kind of fish like certain environments over others. He knows some fish he will never catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 07:39 PM
2

If women wanted quality why are so many single moms?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 07:31 PM
2

Women aren’t afraid of hottest man leaving, they know he is going to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 05:54 AM
1

But that is how women treat men. We are stock options to them.
/r/askTRP21/08/21 08:27 PM
1

The problem with saying “same age” is that 25 year old woman has more social currency than 25 year old man typically, and then this reverses by age 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 06:46 PM
2

There problem who wants to work harder for sex from their wife than the guy who casually banged her while most fertile?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 02:42 PM
10

Women over a certain age have little to offer, men under a certain age have little to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:10 PM
2

What if a guy is happy with jeans T-shirt pony tale? Stop acting like every guy wants Kim Kardashian.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:06 PM
5

Personally I think this is bad advice, more women doesn’t mean more dates if the bulk of women are going for small tier of men. People date more reasonably outside of cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 05:44 PM
-1

Women want the benefits of society while being able to fuck the most uncivilized of men. Aborted a deadbeats kid is the right thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 10:30 PM
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Honestly how many women (or even people) actually have a “career” of significance? I got out of college a decade ago and plenty of my peers are doing the same shit they were doing back then with little to show for it. We need to stop pretending every woman who graduates college becomes Marie Curie.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:26 AM
1

Not mathematically possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 01:23 PM
2

They are actually terrible sales people, they don’t understand supply and demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:38 PM
4

If you open a locked door for a vampire calling from outside...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:36 PM
1

Madonna/whore is alpha fucks beta bucks for women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:25 PM
1

Most women now have no dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:35 PM
4

Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 02:34 PM
1

All the traits you listed correlate positively to motherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:24 PM
6

Women think the most important men should get sex quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:22 PM
2

Any woman marrying a professional athlete is confirming the fact that women like to share.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 03:12 PM
1

Except women go home from bars with guys they just met so...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:30 PM
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Women don’t offer much else, and they take A LOT.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:27 PM
1

Only a small percentage of men get sex. That is like saying what is the obsession with trying to make 100k?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:24 PM
0

One man can get several women pregnant, women prefer to share top men, thus regular men not as valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:48 PM
2

The problem is “bad boy” use to mean a guy like Luke Perry’s character in 90210 or motor cycle riding James Deen. Now badboy means sociopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 04:58 PM
3

Not all women have same ability to bear children. Women who get stuck with a kid are typically the dumb ones or those who prioritized looks, emotion, excitement etc. Most deadbeat dads aren’t the reliable guys who become doctors or lawyers. You become a single mom by fucking the trendy guys. Try actually getting to know decent men and you won’t be a single mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 04:46 PM
3

The point is, you aren’t a special snowflake and don’t offer much beyond a child, which you probably couldn’t even take care of well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 04:32 PM
3

It isn’t about being defiled. It’s about accessing peak reproductive viability. If you aren’t offering a man your peak chance at pregnancy you aren’t offering much. There is no reason to commit to women who don’t offer children. Your personality isn’t that special and we don’t care how unique your personal style is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 04:24 PM
5

The “stupid mistakes” claim is just an excuse for women to have zero accountability. You are allowed to be slutty with losers, it just rules you out of the wife category.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 04:18 PM
1

A lot of folks here male and female think 100k is entry level 😭, and women think 6’0” is average😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 02:03 PM
1

Don’t marry her
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 02:01 PM
5

Men don’t want to jump through hoops for something another man got without taking a step, why is this hard for women to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 01:54 PM
0

Women’s studies isn’t an education, let’s not pretend every college degree means something. There are plenty of people with non technical degrees skating by.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 01:12 PM
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Raising taxes me forcing people to work so...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 08:19 PM
8

The average female dater is a GED grad trying to get hired by Tesla “because they to deserve a chance.”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:53 PM
-1

Well there is a big supply of fat girls and single moms, not exactly a lot of demand so...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:51 PM
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Plenty of women lose attraction when they find out a man makes less or has less prestigious job regardless of salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:00 PM
4

Most men are considered physically and socially ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 10:06 PM
2

Maybe not material worth, but women certainly care about net worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:58 PM
16

Women hate their matches and peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:44 PM
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I know ugly girls living that life so...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:53 AM
1

The less work the more dating will resemble high school dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 10:16 PM
1

Aren’t professional athletes and doctors for example, “wired” differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:41 PM
2

Look at what you said “unwanted.” They aren’t getting hit up by Chris Hemsworth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:53 PM
0

Because men who want children want the women most able to have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 08:28 PM
2

FWB typically means she wants the guy but he won’t commit. It’s rarely an actual peer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 05:45 AM
2

The problem is men want 1950s life and women want 1950 shades of grey.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:57 AM
13

Women hate to admit they are predictable or stereotypical.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:52 AM
1

When I was in college I dated a physical 10 while I was physical 6. Other than that she was completely retarded beyond her ability to do graphic design really well. Her friends were 5/6/7ish (I dated one before her) and always super jealous of her. She also had no clue she was impossibly hot and kind of resented attention for her looks. After we broke up she went into a style I describe as “lesbo larping”and cut all her hair off l. Before that she would be mistaken for the swimsuit model Marissa…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:07 PM
4

When I was in college I dated a physical 10 while I was physical 6. Other than that she was completely retarded beyond her ability to do graphic design really well. Her friends were 5/6/7ish (I dated one before her) and always super jealous of her. She also had no clue she was impossibly hot and kind of resented attention for her looks. After we broke up she went into a style I describe as “lesbo larping”and cut all her hair off l. Before that she would be mistaken for the swimsuit model Marissa…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:06 PM
1

Employers caring about a workers past history...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:44 PM
1

The real problem isn’t a lack of men wanting to be husbands or fathers, it’s that the men who want to be husbands and fathers aren’t always the most attractive sexually. Women need to choose a man as if each quality he has is a player on a team. The right batch of qualities makes him “complete.” They don’t want though, they just want the all madden team or the EA allstar team with the game set to easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:38 PM
1

I notice single moms avoid single dads like the plague.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:33 PM
9

Reddit is social media
/r/MGTOW221/05/21 06:16 PM
0

Because the 38 year old is desperate, while the 18 year old has world by the balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:06 PM
2

Women who are actually attractive don’t need makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 04:09 PM
5

Only women care about “power couples.”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 04:00 PM
6

They are less interested in being feminine while on birth control. I’ve experienced it dating someone couple months before they got on it, like a week after getting on it they got real cold and lesbo like, soon as they got off they wouldn’t leave me alone.
/r/askTRP06/05/21 03:13 PM
9

So you want your boyfriends to embrace gender roles while you abandoned gender roles?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 01:15 PM
3

No, men want an unfinished product.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 04:06 PM
0

Definitely single mom or sex worker = loser
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 01:01 PM
1

Only women and betas believe (deny) there isn’t a wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 01:00 PM
6

The social safety net is causing poor breeding of Homo sapiens. People refuse to apply animal husbandry to our own species.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 01:33 PM
7

Hmmm ugly woman who makes 100k or beautiful woman who makes 50k, decisions decisions?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 04:15 PM
2

Women don’t “ghost” before a date. They make plans with several men that week, when date day comes they decide which one to go meet, and they standup the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 11:25 AM
1

Men who want family/children want the women most able to get pregnant, old news.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 12:56 PM
2

As long as she isn’t obese the average woman in her 20s does well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:55 PM
1

You already gave first kid privileges to a scumbag. You are damaged goods. Why would a good guy not just find a childless woman with class?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:52 PM
1

They are gross?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 01:23 PM
1

You have nothing to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 01:18 PM
1

Because the same woman is holding two different men to two different standards. Imagine you wanted to eat a restaurant, join a club, or apply for a job, the person in charge made it easy on shitty applicants and hard on the qualified one?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 01:15 PM
2

Fucking someone you aren’t serious about is masculine behavior, a luxury women don’t have without consequence. All they have to offer men is peak reproductive viability, a baby from the time of their life they are most able to have a baby. No one gives NBA athletes a raise the year before they retire. Women want to be 35 with someone else’s kid before they drafted by a good guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 01:13 PM
-1

No they don’t want to take things further with someone who puts out right away for ANYONE, or faster than they did for them. Men don’t want to pay for what you gave others for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 01:06 PM
1

It doesn’t mean you are entitled, but I get why you would be annoyed if you were.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 01:04 PM
0

Most women don’t marry for love.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 04:40 PM
1

The wall is harsher in less developed nations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 07:31 PM
0

My point is women who don’t give you a child don’t deserve commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:09 PM
0

Literally no reason to marry a women who you aren’t having kids with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 04:13 PM
1

Everyone fights to be best man at your wedding and meet maid of honor.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 07:42 PM
1

It’s a trade of commitment for reproductive viability.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 03:43 PM
2

Marrying younger women isn’t about being insecure, it’s about finding most qualified applicant for the position of wife. The only thing women offer in a marriage is their peak reproductive viability.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 01:37 PM
1

The line between creepy and friendly is the line between Danny Devito and George Clooney. Creepy is any guy who isn’t hot or in possession of something women want in that moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 10:52 AM
2

I know blue collar people making 100k and folks with PhD making 50k so....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 03:39 PM
1

Including the deadbeat dads?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 03:38 PM
9

Last paragraph is gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 04:19 PM
3

In Spanish patron is the word for godfather, we say “he who does not have a godfather will not be baptized.” The saying sums up importance of having a patron.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/21 02:58 PM
3

Women aren’t more socially aware. They don’t know about the wall until they hit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 02:55 PM
1

A women who casually fucks your at that age is setting her money on fire. 24-26 is wife material, plenty of 35 year old dudes way more interesting than you will lock them down.
/r/askTRP15/03/21 02:24 PM
2

Yes but even the hobbyist is not having a “casual expedience.”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 01:02 AM
5

There is no such thing as “casual sex.” What people mean is no strings attached recreational sex. Calling sex “casual” is like calling cage fighting or sky diving casual. “There goes Tom again casually sky diving...” Makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 07:36 PM
1

It depends. If you are a true ho you have nothing to offer a husband. The point of marriage is trading your ho phase for his commitment, while he trades his ho phase for your peak reproductively viability. That is point of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 03:30 PM
41

Marriage was literally created to prevent men from checking out of society so that we could have industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 01:54 PM
1

“Share” the same few guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:28 PM
1

What about kings who has rights to newly married women and peasants?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 03:16 PM
1

This is the reason you vet women before unprotected sex. Your baby momma is an (attention) whore if she’s bringing that many casual partners home around her kid. She won’t change.
/r/askTRP20/02/21 06:33 PM
1

When a woman is way more attractive than a guy, she usually has many deficits and the man has something of value to her. People keep acting like one legged janitors are rolling in Beyoncé level women.
/r/askTRP20/02/21 06:20 PM
1

Women don’t want criteria for what makes them HV, especially FDS types who believe all women are by default HV.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 05:18 PM
2

When George Clooney does it no problem, from Danny Devito is harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 12:14 PM
2

If you are afraid you did a horrible job vetting the guy. Not to mention other people should know you are out with him, and he should know that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 07:39 PM
4

Sweden has some of highest sexual assault rates in the civilized world. Not sure you want to live like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 03:23 PM
1

More like a pro sports “salary cap.” There would be no point in watching the games if one team wins every year because of their picks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 03:18 PM
2

Because it’s risky to approach women in person. You can literally lose a job or reputation for inviting wrong woman to dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 04:54 PM
1

Both, a real woman finds a guy somewhere in the middle, just like a real man finds a woman somewhere in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 09:16 PM
1

Both, a real woman finds a guy somewhere in the middle, just like a real man finds a woman somewhere in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 09:16 PM
4

It only benefits the genetically and socially gifted. Marriage was created to limit alphas so everyone else could have a chance in order to motivate their participation in society. Marriage is not about controlling women, it’s about limiting successful men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 11:37 AM
1

I think by natural they mean “has the genetic and personality tools.”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 02:42 PM
2

Women are horrible at seeing intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 02:40 PM
5

Pure genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 02:35 PM
3

Usually it means he is Asian or a white computer nerd.
/r/RedPillWomen13/01/21 07:47 PM
1

Just like if I chose a stripper over a school teacher.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 02:43 PM
1

I’m not saying all women ignore stable guys. I’m saying many women ignore stable guys early on. More importantly I’m saying there is a consequence for choosing based on sexual attraction over stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 02:43 PM
2

There is something telling about the kind of guy who has many female friends. Usually they are beta or fuckboi. Men typically make friends based on commonalities like they both work on cars, train MMA, or are military vets. The odds of sharing those with women is low.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 12:57 PM
1

I didn’t say doctors don’t get laid. I said the consequences of fucking a doctor are typically less than fucking a musician.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 12:54 PM
2

I don’t disagree, my point is that it’s a small percent of the men doing all the violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 01:38 AM
2

If that were true there would be more men in jail. Most shitty people are repeat offenders. Look at violent crime stats, you don’t have 1:1 offender to victim, you have 1:100 offender to victim. It isn’t 100 men beating 100 women, it’s 1 man who beats 100 women. Most men are afraid to even say good morning to women in broad daylight.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 11:40 PM
3

No women are at fault for gravitating to the type of guy who abandons their children. It’s a personality type whether you accept that or not. It isn’t random.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 07:19 PM
2

Sometimes the most stable man isn’t the most exciting or well intentioned. Sometimes the most exciting man isn’t the most stable or well intentioned. Life is about trade offs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 07:18 PM
1

There is a difference between consenting to sex with a guitar player in a band verses consenting to sex with a doctor. Women choose the trendy guy, the fun guy, the good looking guy (while ignoring stable guys) and then complain when they are left as single mothers. You don’t seem to believe women have responsibly on actually vetting and choosing men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 06:49 PM
2

Men are employees, women are hiring managers. An employee can’t screw up on the job until someone hires them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 06:19 PM
1

They love special treatment and hate accountability. They believe their past (no matter how gross) shouldn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 01:28 PM
1

The problem isn’t the bar being too high for men, it’s the bar being too low for women. Society is happy to shit on men at the bottom while praising women at the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 11:58 AM
1

Yes, but I’m a different way. They (hopefully) make the son a better high value man so women will want him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 11:44 AM
-2

Women don’t want ANY rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 11:43 AM
0

But when women do as they please we have epic single motherhood and societal breakdown.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 11:43 AM
0

But putting men in categories is exactly what women do. There is man hot enough to give sex to for free (zero expectations) and then there is the boyfriend/husband/LTR category.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 11:11 AM
3

They don’t want to rock the boat, feelings of insecurity, not being good enough, #metoo and the list goes on. Violent men are repeat offenders who don’t represent the average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 06:50 PM
2

Women think of every day discomforts (getting out of bed, a cold breeze, moving parking spaces) as life changing obstacles. Turning down a coworker for dinner is like fighting a dragon for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 02:38 PM
1

Most people aren’t middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 02:34 PM
1

Most men are afraid to say good morning to women in broad daylight.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 02:32 PM
3

There is no reason to commit to women outside of having children. Older women are less valuable for having children. The hottest 45 year old female celeb loses to the average 25 year old when a man wants a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 02:27 PM
1

Female attractiveness is really a product of what the man wants long term. If he wants kids a 25 year old 7 is better than a 40 year old 10. If he wants sex a 40 year old 10 is better than 25 year old 7. It’s pretty straight forward regardless if palatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 10:42 PM
3

Game isn’t a myth, game is the dating version of marketing and public relations. It’s about selling people shit they don’t need and convincing shit is less fucked up than it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 01:46 PM
9

True, but the lower a man’s status the more women (and society) take offense to the bad behavior. HR department or the girl on the street will give George Clooney more wiggle room and benefit of the doubt over someone who looks like Danny Devito.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 07:10 PM
2

I haven’t had dating apps in over 6 months, in LTR, but I remember that the amount of fat girls and single moms was insane. I’m Latino, but I noticed a lot of white women with black children.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 02:43 PM
4

Chad-light chiming in, incels don’t hate women, incels recognize that women hate them. As someone who seen women do crazy shit for him they wouldn’t do for boyfriends or average guys, I shit you not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 02:38 PM
0

Unlikely they do, the friend zone is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 04:07 PM
0

So he was a beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 07:20 PM
1

You don’t get it. If a man wants a wife and children, he doesn’t want to expend more effort for waning possibility of children than the guy who did no leg work who wasnt held accountable and got casual sex from her during best time to have children. It’s not about limiting women’s value, it’s about acknowledging what each side brings to the table. Likewise unemployed drug addict womanizing men shouldn’t have access to women’s peak fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:14 PM
1

Plenty of men take their vows seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 03:45 AM
1

No, you trade her fertility for your life long commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:15 AM
4

Many of us were.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:30 PM
3

The problem is that all women have to really offer is fertility. If you aren’t getting a portion of the good window what is the point? You don’t pay more for expired products.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:19 PM
3

No men want sex and only porn is available.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 11:26 PM
3

I mean people compare everything in life. Apartments, jobs, restaurants, traffic routes, investments etc...but not partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:14 PM
8

You do realize porn survives because most men are unfuckable to women, and the ones who are still get held over the coals from time to time when getting laid. Let’s not act like porn is the ideal for men, they would rather sleep with actual women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:11 PM
4

When we tell men they are “getting lucky” to have consensual relations with women, of course internet pussy will fly off the shelf. With the exception of the truly fucked content, most porn operates and profits off the premise and fact that most men are undesirable to most women. It isn’t about exploiting women, it’s about exploiting lonely, socially awakened, genetically challenged, and simply unfuckable men. Never in my life have I chosen porn over my girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 05:35 PM
1

Well now they pay them to be on onlyfans.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 05:32 PM
2

Because women don’t want to be judged for being the perverts that they are. They want to maintain the appearance of being virtuous despite not actually being so. Life is a public relations game for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 04:35 PM
2

A woman doesn’t need to be skilled or special to meet many men. A man who meets many women is usually special or skilled. A lock that accepts many keys is a shitty lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key. Eggs sell for more than sperm. Men are interested in paternity and loyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 02:26 PM
1

Right but men wanted to date a little bit before having kids. They don’t want a turn key wife the way women want a turn key husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 07:46 PM
0

Bad analogy, more like someone got a job without credentials or contract because of how they looked.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 08:53 PM
1

It would eliminate a lot of women from dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 12:58 PM
0

There can’t be a double standard if the consequences are naturally different. Now if women got lighter prison sentences for committing the same crime (which they do) something like that would be an actual double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 12:57 PM
1

Actually it totally is and has been for thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 08:15 PM
-1

You don’t understand that women’s value lies in their fertility and they basically have nothing else to offer men, so yes them having sex is “spending money.”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 04:26 PM
2

The problem lies in that women change their methods after using up theirs currency (fertility) on men who offer them zero commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 04:25 PM
1

Worrying about job credentials and pay rate is also limiting yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 02:25 PM
1

Reddit is full of people downplaying the significance of basic animal husbandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 07:42 PM
0

I think most men would be happy to have harem of fuglies
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 07:36 PM
1

What about if most of your options are shit? I’ve heard women say “well a bunch of other guys are after me” as if all of them are great catches or have good intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 07:35 PM
3

Different rules for different men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 03:11 PM
1

Saranac is getting culty/leftist
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 03:10 PM
-2

Women who can’t have kids aren’t worth marrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 09:53 PM
21

The idea that all women excel in housework and men are useless is so BS. Have you seen the homes of adult women in cities who have room mates? It’s always a shitstorm battle over who’s turn it is to clean. I’ve dated women who were horrendous cooks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 09:52 PM
2

It’s because men are socialized by women to be transactional unless they won genetic lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 09:43 PM
2

A man taking a good picture isn’t only thing that influences women. We all know a woman who dates ugly or shitty men despite having many options. Not all women choose men rationally.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 09:28 PM
1

Because the existence of stepfathers enables women’s bad behavior such as dual mating strategy, hypergamy, status seeking, attention seeking, frivolity and more. The stepfather is ultimate beta bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 01:46 PM
4

Of course, most women get passed around by small group of men. A lot of women don’t know they are side pieces or just flavor of the week. They are horrible at seeing intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:45 PM
1

Good life means acting reckless without consequence and getting whatever materialistic or whimsical crap that you like at all times.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:43 PM
0

Don’t meet random guys. Actually try meeting people through groups, friends, and family. The problem is women want to go out with who they think is super hot or random quality, they will ignore the guy they have known for years who has crush on them and clean criminal record.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:39 PM
5

Tell women to stop drooling over big dicks
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:36 PM
1

What is your idea of most guys? Like most guys over 6 feet tall?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:35 PM
2

What is your idea of most guys? Like most guys over 6 feet tall?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:35 PM
2

Or he has $$$$
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:34 PM
2

Issue is women don’t like when men have deal breakers or the fact that some women are more desirable than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:32 PM
1

A lot of objectively beautiful women get fuck zoned for one reason or another. No one takes Tomi seriously anymore, but I remember the glory days of her being a tradcon dream girl before being outed as a basic bitch larping as conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:25 PM
1

Eggs sell for 5,000 sperm sells for $500. Female fertility is worth more than male fertility. Just like male strength is worth more than female strength for manual labor. How clueless are you that men compete for access to women’s reproductive viability because most men want children.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 05:12 PM
1

Fertility is a resource, if not a commodity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 01:48 PM
1

The idea that women giving birth and men not giving birth doesn’t color their life experience is preposterous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 02:23 PM
4

Most men think their past is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 02:21 PM
2

Except women do the same X then Y equation. It seems like you believe only women should be allowed to have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 02:15 PM
2

Dating is a market place
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 01:48 PM
5

Caring about N-count isn’t about wanting women to have little experience, it’s about not wanting the baggage that comes with high N count women such as scumbags kids, inability to pair bond, taking partner for granted, lack of discipline, STDs, emotional trauma, impossible expectations, and more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 01:43 PM
1

Attractive for women means basic physical fitness, attractive for men means super athlete.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 05:41 AM
4

Marriage was created so that average women don’t get passed around by the top men. Less marriage = sexual monarchy and societal breakdown, not that anyone cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 03:40 PM
13

The same reason men who have never had a job apply to McDonalds, they need spending money and something to build a resume with. Women hate inexperienced men, a man who waits around for quality women won’t have the experience to keep them. Try telling a woman you are a virgin, see how that goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 07:22 PM
13

MOST men will never truly experience being wanted, but they will experience being needed for there is never ending line of female fuckups in need of bailout.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 05:38 PM
0

Plenty of men with options join military. You have to be Mensa level IQ to be an officer or work in Intel department. Stop acting like all our soldiers are mindless drones.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 07:34 PM
11

Most men don’t act out of self interest. The military is made up of everyday men and those guys consider it an honor to die saving their friends and country.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 05:27 PM
1

He doesn’t “see” it he recognizes it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 01:47 PM
1

Alpha males become Navy Seals and things like that. Only men decide who is alpha. They most elite warriors don’t have a female instructor shaping them up. Women will literally have sex with a guy because he is in a shitty band or placed third in a breakdance championship, neither of those men are alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 12:58 PM
1

This is like asking “why do women complain about how they get treated but choose and give consent to shitbags.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 12:50 PM
1

If you could get laid all the time without trying you wouldn’t give a fuck about gaming. No reasonable man chooses Fortnight over pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 12:46 PM
2

In college at a party, this gal from my class/social circle comes over to me while I’m cracking open a beer and asks “how many of those will you need to have before you’ll go home with me?” I was Chad-light at the time but also socially unaware. I was also double her weight so I already hear the “she wasn’t a threat to you” argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 12:42 PM
5

But women are impressed by what it takes a guy to achieve a high notch count.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 12:26 PM
0

Of course a woman’s friendship isn’t as valuable as a romantic relationship. The guy she has romance with is her #1 draft pick. No man has ever done anything in fantasy or reality just to become a woman’s friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:28 PM
2

Women don’t want to be friends with men, look at the men they choose as “friends.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 11:45 AM
2

No such thing as “casual sex.” That is a boomer marketing term to bankrupt us morally. If sex could be “casual” it would happen daily on public streets and inside food courts the way you see people making out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 10:44 AM
12

Men just need to know it is safe for them to talk to you. Once woman establishes that man will do the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 10:39 AM
1

Women don’t want to sleep with men who are commitment minded. Women want to sleep with who they find sexually exciting. The average woman is the female equivalent of a loser guy trying to turn a hoe into a housewife. You aren’t going to turn sociopaths into good husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 08:23 PM
4

Romance, love, and sex are commodities traded in a market place. Most men would rather be poor and have a woman than rich and alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 08:12 PM
1

That would be the friend zone
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 04:22 PM
2

Heaven forbid a guy wants to bang his own girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 03:22 PM
1

And the women with masters of women’s studies are reliable?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 10:16 AM
1

But there are lots of uneducated people with bachelors. People with bachelors degrees can fuck you over. Most men wouldn’t care if she’s got a degree if she’s pretty and reliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 06:27 PM
2

A bachelors degree can be in a bullshit subject like women’s studies. I would rather date someone with a skill based job making 100k, they exist!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 11:41 AM
6

OP is saying many women have casual sex and then want a boyfriend or husband to jump through hoops for same or less sex that other guy got with no commitment. This is basically everyday life with women in first world western culture free of consequence. In other countries is public knowledge that you don’t wife up a ho.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 07:18 PM
1

Calling people sexless because they don’t share your views let’s me know you have a low IQ. You probably think sex has nothing to do with reproduction, nor do you understand men are competing for their genetics to succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 07:12 PM
1

Sex without expectations is highest status you can give a man short of child birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 12:31 PM
0

Friends with benefits usually means a woman is giving commitment free sex to a guy out of her league who never give her commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 10:19 AM
1

No, because men care about women’s past regardless of how great they appear. Most men will choose a virgin 7 over a slutty 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 04:01 PM
1

There is no such thing as “casual sex.” If casual sex were a thing there would be the orgy equivalent of pickup basketball games happening at every public park. “Casual sex” is a marketing term.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 03:56 PM
3

Not everyone gets a commitment, but most “date.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 06:24 PM
1

Leave her!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 01:01 PM
1

Men don’t care if women have PHDs, unless PHD is in fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 05:57 PM
5

Chastity = paternity
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 05:54 PM
1

I wonder how many men would be anti abortion if their girlfriend, wife, sister, or mother got raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 11:08 AM
1

If men were automatically attracted to looks they would be wifing up strippers and onlyfans girls on the regular. A 7 who is loyal is better than a slutty 10 for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 11:07 AM
1

Why would a rich guy marry a divorcee?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 11:53 AM
27

A small group of men is responsible, there was a recent study where 7 NFL players had 50 children.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 11:43 AM
1

I think money is important for MOST women, and if you want A woman from the MOST women crowd then of course it’s important. That being said I’m doing just ok financially at 36. My gf is 27, 9/10 and great to be around. I know plenty of shitty 36 year old women who think I don’t make enough yet bring nothing to the table themselves. Don’t start relationships with women over 29. If a 35 year old wants commitment, she should have secured it in her 20s. Also most women aren’t 10s and 9s. Some of you…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 06:59 PM
1

Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 02:13 AM
2

Most of those single mothers were NEVER married.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 10:04 PM
1

Foster girlfriend = beta bucks
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 10:02 PM
4

Not complicated for the guy. FWB means guy out of her league.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 09:59 PM
0

Men don’t file for divorce because they have more to lose 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 09:53 PM
1

For most of human history 80 percent of women reproduced and 20 percent of men reproduced. It natural for some men to be promiscuous and most men to be sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 09:50 PM
-1

No because eventually it will come out that you are a hoe. Why would a man commit to you when you give pussy out for free to guys you meet at clubs and coffee shops?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 04:28 PM
1

I know 25 year olds with better jobs than people twice their age. It isn’t unheard of.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 04:27 PM
5

To understand women’s ideas of average you need to understand their idea of “choice.” Men are happy to go to a bar and leave with a 10, women want to go to a bar full of 10s and pick their favorite 10 of all the 10s. When they say a man is average it means datable but not perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 11:51 AM
10

Nailed. A lot of women think because hot drunk guy took them home one night they can now land hot husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 02:16 PM
2

This is like a women saying I want a guy who beat all of his exes so now it’s out of his system. Or a guy who did anal with his exes so now it’s out of his system.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 11:54 PM
1

Because when someone shares their experience and you deny their truth, it is usually personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 01:42 PM
1

I can tell this is super personal to you. I’m a minority and I have experienced this and witnessed it. But since you insist it isn’t possible, I guess i imagined it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 01:37 PM
2

There are literally articles calling people racist for not dating interracially. Why are you opposed to this fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 01:12 PM
2

Actually people of all races play that card.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 11:44 AM
0

News flash women have standards for men they don’t hold for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 05:36 AM
4

This whole thing with racial preferences is about guilting women in to putting out. “If you don’t fuck so and so it’s racism...”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 05:23 AM
1

I don’t care either way, but plenty of women ARE staying at home and safe guarding themselves for future husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 05:14 AM
2

You do understand that most women can easily have lots of sex. Men who have lots of sex are a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 05:06 AM
2

Calling men hypocritical over n-count preference is like saying the risks associated with sex are 50/50 male to female. Eggs are worth more than sperm (and rightfully so), but when women treat their eggs like sperm they lower their own value.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 05:03 AM
3

Only women are allowed to have deal breakers is the implication.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 04:52 AM
0

Literally ANY woman can sleep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 07:15 PM
1

Most men don’t date, let alone cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 06:33 PM
1

I’m old enough to remember when Polo was designer 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 04:08 PM
4

Makeup is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 04:06 PM
1

Women’s heads burst over this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 11:32 AM
1

Doesn’t matter how well she photographs if you think of her as a whore. This is why the average goodgirl can lock a husband down better than the 10/10 loose moral type.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 10:59 PM
11

Lets say you coach a basketball team, and you one day want to win a championship, you don’t hire 35 year olds about to retire.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 05:48 PM
1

Some women are clearly better than others. Also applies to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:18 PM
2

The more a man puts a women on a pedestal the less likely he is to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:46 PM
1

I’m 36, and most of the women I graduated with haven’t had kids yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 12:45 PM
2

The problem with pushing careers on women is that they don’t look for a husband until 35, and expect someone to propose and marry them as a turn-key husband. Men want to date for a few years, and prefer to commit to women with most reproductive viability.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:52 AM
1

You clearly don’t understand men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 02:14 AM
3

Common female behavior. I know for a fact women I dated casually or short term “gave me more” than what they gave their LTR, that is what the concern is for most men, different cost of admission for different men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 02:10 AM
1

Should leave!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 02:09 AM
3

I have a cute GF and that doesn’t sound half bad
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 02:05 AM
6

There is a contingent of 35+ especially 45+ women claiming to being their sexiest ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 01:58 AM
3

The problem is attractive men (not always) can offer more than just looks. Attractive women rarely offer more than their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 01:54 AM
10

A lot of men would swear off whores for the Madonna of their choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 09:26 PM
2

Look up stats on children being born without a dad over last 3 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 08:39 PM
16

In a similar boat, I’m super happy with my gf but I see others desperation. Having a girlfriend now is like being wealthy and living on a bad block.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 07:57 PM
1

Most women having children are single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 07:56 PM
1

Actually it’s the unattractive women with great careers that are behind this. Most women with PHDs are undateable and want to shame women with “lesser” careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 03:25 PM
1

Women need to understand that reproductive viability is all they can really offer. When in history did a king marry an old woman who couldn’t get pregnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 03:10 PM
1

How come every “first” guy women date is shitty? No one ever seems to pick a decent guy first.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 02:49 PM
5

I think he means that an untrained 6’6” guy would get creamed by a 5’11” Rickson Gracie or George St Pierre type.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 01:12 PM
5

That is different, he already had kids of his own and didn’t give up his chance for children of his own.
/r/MGTOW216/08/20 05:15 PM
31

It’s very natural. Only beta males raise other men’s children.
/r/MGTOW215/08/20 08:22 PM
3

Single mom = worst judgment
/r/TheRedPill08/08/20 08:14 PM
1

Women sign up to be cheated on by alphas. Look at NBA/NFL wives as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 03:05 PM
1

Never listen to female friends and relatives, they give you advice based on them not wanting to be judged. They don’t want you to truly know how women operate, as that would be threat to their power game.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 03:02 PM
2

Then he could sue for discrimination.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/08/20 03:00 PM
1

Partner could just “book her” and be a “client?”
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/08/20 02:38 PM
1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 01:38 PM
1

Don’t waste virginity on losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 01:24 PM
1

Men are programmed to value reproductive viability and paternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 01:22 PM
1

Men’s standards are sexist, women’s standards are virtuous😭
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 07:04 PM
2

Madonnas out rank whores, alphas out rank betas. Madonna = Alpha
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:55 PM
1

Legendary
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:53 PM
0

Women would love to believe their sexual history doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:43 PM
1

Why do most native Somalians see food as the best thing and other aspects as secondary?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 04:59 PM
2

I currently have an awesome girlfriend, but before I got said no to by lots of super average women who didn’t come close to her. A lot of men have shit self esteem from being rejected by chad-chasers during their 20s. Male thirst is proportionate to female expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 04:54 PM
0

Men not getting laid = collapse is really an extreme euphemism for men checking out from general decency because they perceive themselves as not a player in the love game. I think there is a lot to unpack here. Obviously society doesn’t collapse over someone not getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 06:28 PM
2

Most men don’t want to raise other men’s kids. That’s a chance you take with sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 07:35 PM
2

I agree, but ugly girls don’t deserve a guy who looks like The Rock.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 07:35 PM
2

Wanting them less doesn’t mean they benefit less. Have you heard of divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 07:33 PM
3

The “support” of sex work is one of the top ten liberal shit tests. It’s right up there with self defense is wrong and immigration is inherently noble.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 07:31 PM
1

Women care more about type of ex’s not number. They don’t want to be average if you dated a model before them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 07:20 PM
1

Slutty women are like a McDonald’s job to keep you fed during college.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 07:18 PM
1

The individual odds of two situations happening are not even remotely close to each other. Most dudes already getting laid don’t go to escorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 07:17 PM
1

A lot of women don’t realize how much they are catered to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 03:09 PM
1

People who live in NYC don’t even know there are bears in woods 2.5 hrs from them upstate. Big city people typically lack knowledge beyond some specialized task that they do for a living. They will see you as a mechanic for helping them change a lightbulb. There is a lot of different kinds of people in America. The states were meant to be countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 03:08 PM
4

In think OP brings it up because a lot of modern women love to post the Marylin Monroe quote about having to love them at their worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 06:40 PM
1

I date in a big city, it seems like there is a group of women (especially right around 30) that think it’s cool to humiliate a guy for not being their type. Imagine a guy is wearing a “violin is awesome” t-shirt in a music store and a female violinist takes notice and tries to talk to him about it, but because she isn’t objectively pretty he is dismissive and cruel? See how shitty that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 06:37 AM
1

Dating is a sport where male players have to pass a tryout to warm the bench while female players automatically make the starting line up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 06:29 AM
2

Middle class of everything is dying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 05:56 AM
2

Unless they have an established connection (ex: both make pottery or train karate) men and women don’t need to be friends. Men who have lots of female friends are usually manipulating them or the guy just doesn’t fit in as one of the boys. Women who lack female friends well...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 05:55 AM
1

Calling a man alpha for being photogenic is like calling a bimbo alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 05:50 AM
1

The average man is a sexual Somalian to which fast food appears to be fine dining. So no, women don’t have to that hard in bed short of being genuinely interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 05:48 AM
2

If a man doesn’t want kids from you it’s because he only sees you as sex object.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 05:32 AM
1

Bottom percentage? I’m 6’2’’ athletic, college, awards, live alone blah blah blah and mainly get messages and invites from fatties and single moms. This assumption that everyone who has a hard time dating is working at Taco Bell and living with mom isn’t helping things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 05:24 AM
2

I’m calling BS, I’m fit and never meet fit women online
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 05:18 AM
2

We need more women on here giving solid info like this
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 05:16 AM
3

Really? I thought YouTube was pulling strings to stifle controversy m?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 05:06 AM
1

A key that opens many locks is a master key. A lock that is opened by any key is a shitty lock.
/r/TheRedPill27/04/20 12:15 AM
1

While I wouldn’t spend the money, I don’t think all these guys are “simps.” A lot of this is reflection of dating market. I know plenty of objectively attractive men with accomplishments who mainly meet fatties and single moms. Women in major cities think 100k is average salary 😂 and average height is 6 feet (FYI I’m 6’2” and latino so no need to imply I’m short and white like many of you love to do on here🙄).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 05:33 AM
1

I wasn’t remotely her boss and had zero authority over her, in fact I was different department.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 05:12 AM
2

The FDS community are the laziest of the sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 04:35 AM
1

“Rules for thee not for me.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 04:19 AM
1

Men don’t care who finds them attractive. Women only want attention from top guys. I use to work in an office and for no good reason secretary treated me way better than janitor (who was salt of the earth give his last shirt away type). They have different rules for different men. They sell the same piece to different buyers at different prices.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 04:16 AM
1

Most men don’t cheat, most men don’t get dates. Now if you are dating a guy “no woman can resist,” well of course you will be cheated on. Exhibit A: professional athletes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 04:02 AM
2

OP sounds like a douche. Could have just said “my apartment” but wants everyone to know it’s “luxury.” Thinks a divorcee is “the one.” Hard to believe this isn’t a troll.
/r/TheRedPill25/04/20 03:00 AM
22

I don’t know a single man who has ever gotten an all expense paid trip from a women. I know many women who have gotten this. It isn’t about the sex, it’s about the attention. The average man will never get the kind of positive treatment average women get (I understand negative attention comes with that).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:33 PM
0

This doesn’t make sense, the toughest dudes I know from military and competitive martial arts are total teddy bears otherwise. Do not mistake kindness for weakness. Giving is a masculine quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 05:49 PM
0

The best sex of their life isn’t for their husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 09:32 PM
16

Of course men can use women, it just happens a lower rate. Most of the time the male user is out of the woman’s league looks wise. Women have a hard time enforcing boundaries with attractive/valuable men. They think hot guys are allowed to cheat, regular men owe them loyalty, and ugly guys are invisible. They don’t have a problem with a celeb or athlete running around on them, but when Bill from the highway department does something wrong it’s a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 12:55 PM
4

Are guys with wife and kids really cheating with women who are married with kids? Kind of sounds like quiting CVS to work at Walgreens.
/r/MarriedRedPill22/03/20 11:58 AM
1

Modern women keep falling for the “low disgust” trait con man. They are obsessed with not being “judged,” and think the guy with anything goes attitude is “feminist.” Meanwhile it’s the guy with the anything goes attitude who is first to pump and dump them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 06:38 PM
1

I don’t know about the white part, dating apps these days are full of single white women with mixed race kids. And if you point out the reverse doesn’t hold true people really lose their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 09:42 PM
1

I don’t know about the white part, dating apps these days are full of single white women with mixed race kids. And if you point out the reverse doesn’t hold true people really lose their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 09:42 PM
1

A major Hollywood actress was just arrested for leading a sex ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 09:28 PM
2

Most men don’t give a fuck about “the social ladder.” This is why you hear so many women complaining about having big accomplishments while being unable to meet men. That guy you want with all the success is picking the younger, less educated, and more fertile women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 09:23 PM
1

The 6 year old thing weirds me out but the point about cobalt slavery is legitimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 03:21 PM
1

Of course because younger guys have no chance with you and older women have no chance with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 03:17 PM
1

A man, I can’t wrap my ahead around getting married to not have kids. It would be a way better experience to just be single for most men. I find the type of women who want to get married and not have kids to be very self centered. Men who get married and don’t have kids tend to be cuckish.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 03:14 PM
1

True platonic friends for men usually have a specific origin. Like the girl is the daughter of the guy’s favorite aunt’s coworker and they always meet once a year since childhood. The idea that a single guy meets a desirable women and wouldn’t be interested is preposterous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 09:29 PM
0

It isn’t exactly the same. Women can choose to be Madonna or whore at age 18. Alpha beta isn’t a choice for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 01:27 PM
1

I briefly dated someone who worked for social services, she was part of team who made these decisions to “take away.” Her office would drink on the job. My point is you have to stop looking at government agencies as angelic. They are just people. There are literal alcoholics deciding who gets their kids taken away because THEY are an alcoholic!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 02:33 PM
3

Why fuck an abusive man?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 10:17 PM
0

Nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 10:10 PM
1

Read the title, read my comment. They are one in the same
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 09:26 PM
1

Two words, women’s studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 05:22 PM
3

Do I think that poor people are on average funnier than rich people? YES.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 05:18 PM
1

“Abortion chasers” are the new “bug chasers.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 05:14 PM
2

When women mention friends with benefits it is never actually a “friend.” It isn’t the guy they have known the longest, or even the guy who is always there to help. FWB is their euphemism for the hot guy who won’t commit to them. Saying FWB is a PR tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 05:11 PM
5

They don’t carry the weight though, the tax payer does.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 05:05 PM
1

Most people can barely afford rent and someone is flying this chick out for a one of date 😂 That is all you need to know how fucked things are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 05:04 PM
1

The real question is did he have the swag to get Anne Frank’s number if they met?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 06:15 PM
1

There was no shortage of women involved with NAZIs back then, especially the officers. If they were banging Hitler’s employees I would assume they would bang Hitler.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 06:13 PM
1

The average person isn’t making 80k let alone 40k, who are all these women? There have to be assistants, secretaries, and all sorts of rolls to support an 80k position. I know women making 100k but that isn’t typical. There is no shortage of 30 year old women living with a bunch of room mates.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 02:06 PM
2

I’m confused if you are making more then how is there a pay gap?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 01:58 PM
2

The problem isn’t the n-count. The problem is the kind of guys they rack it up with are one type and then they want to marry a one of who is exact opposite. I’ve seen White women spend their 20s with minorities then want a white husband at 35. I don’t blame white men for not wanting these women. Asian women do this behavior as well chasing white guys and then settling for Asian guy late in life. It isn’t just limited to race either. Women will date nothing but musicians or unemployed guys for 10…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 01:48 PM
1

The ancient powers that be literally invented monogamy to stop men from being animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 11:06 PM
0

As a guy who is 6’2” I can credibly tell you my female friends think 6’ is average. Things are out of control and denying it is the last great shit test.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 11:04 PM
2

Except now they are having kids unmarried with even bigger unemployed losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 11:01 PM
1

What people consider bad boys now means sociopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 11:00 PM
2

Women’s choices don’t reflect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 10:53 PM
1

I pray for 20, I assume 100.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 10:47 PM
3

Men going to hookers is the equivalent of women who fuck homeless guys. Change my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 10:43 PM
2

Exactly, this is why the urban/hood mentality is so dangerous. It’s physically strong men behaving like out of control women. Or worse, men wanting credit for dancing and being cute. You can’t be the king and the jester all at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 10:41 PM
5

Some women don’t know they are gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 10:38 PM
1

Women will make things harder on you once they place you in husband category versus dating category. They see you have money so all off a sudden they play classy to keep you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 10:44 PM
2

Hmm, would I rather drown or be set on fire?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 05:19 PM
2

Ivy League schools exist to keep social classes of students separate, which in itself is selection. Giving your kids the money and freedom to do anything influences selection. UMC parents control kids reality, of course they influence dating for better or worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 05:45 AM
18

Years ago I was 28 on a date with a 32 year old single mom. To begin, she gave me her number without me asking for it, which if she actually cared would have been cool. I was best man with groom and friends at a pub crawl / bachelor party, the bar was way more women than men. We bullshitted a bit. She was upfront about the kid which I appreciated. Because she was upfront and no bullshit about it at first I naively thought it wouldn’t be an issue. As I recall she had kid around 21, baby daddy app…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 03:40 AM
3

I don’t know where you live but most women I know under 40 aren’t living alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 02:12 AM
1

I never said men weren’t guilty or can’t be guilty. The problem is women are the gatekeeepers whether they like it or not. Just like its men’s job to protect women from criminals, it’s women’s job to avoid criminals. True story, my cousin dumped a great guy in law school who we all loved for a guy who is thug life, gets pregnant and is now screwed because he is refusing child support or even babysitting. Explain to me how it is the fault of the good guy? Was he so boring and compassionate that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 01:41 AM
1

Yes, because the family court system isn’t at all rigged🙄You are talking about the same industry that makes adoption cost 40,000 for a baby no one but adopting parents wants to take care of. You want the same system that runs prisons in charge of families?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 12:57 AM
1

How are you getting your own when your time and money goes to her kids she had with a criminal?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 12:46 AM
1

I hope OP knows there is a difference between “men” complaining and the complaints of men that WOMEN find attractive. Most men want to be fathers, but women don’t have sex based on fatherly potential. There isn’t a single motherhood problem because women chase book worms.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 12:45 AM
1

I hope OP knows there is a difference between “men” complaining and the complaints of men that WOMEN find attractive. Most men want to be fathers, but women don’t have sex based on fatherly potentially. There isn’t a single motherhood problem because women chase book worms.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 12:45 AM
4

The guy is partly to blame for allowing it, he probably had no dad or a weak dad.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/02/20 07:09 PM
1

It’s culturally acceptable in America for women to get pregnant by ANYONE. They get a crush on a guy for stupid reason and have his kids. Women in other countries that have it hard actually try to find decent men. There is no shortage of American men who want to be great dads, women just don’t give them opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 01:46 PM
1

I’m 6’ 3” and invisible. I don’t think it’s about height. Sociopaths are trending.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 01:44 PM
7

Sounds like she did you a favor. Have a kid with a first time mom instead.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre05/02/20 03:20 AM
1

Better way to ask this question: Do men have obligation to treat women well who say “yes?” Or Do women have obligation to say “yes” to men that treat women well? Commence head spinning.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 10:50 PM
1

Women literally have no idea that regular men run our infrastructure. It’s assumed to them that the power comes on and streets are defended.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 10:45 PM
6

FDS is a lobby group for sugar babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 10:40 PM
1

No shit Sherlock, you missed the point. Men who are abused by women don’t go gay because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 01:37 PM
1

No shit Sherlock, you missed the point. Men who are abused by women don’t go gay because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 01:37 PM
1

This is the kind of behavior that sets men and women apart when wronged. A man could be beaten, cheated on, divorced, his money awarded away by the courts, and he will still look for a new woman to be romantic with. A woman gets hurt and she stops shaving her legs and starts shaving her head. Also MGTOW is a smaller fringe than the man hating club.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 01:30 PM
2

Men and women have different ideas of what MALE confidence is. Men believe MALE confidence is knowing you have what it takes to be productive. Women believe MALE confidence is acting like a sociopath and loving yourself tremendously regardless of how worthless you are. Competence does not equal confidence. As an example, I have a friend who speaks 4 languages, plays 3 instruments, has a masters degree, and travels the world. When I take him to parties he doesn’t do as well as my habitually unemp…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 06:59 PM
2

Are you saying penis stocks typically sell for lower prices than vagina stocks? Well then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 06:50 PM
1

Not trying to defend men, but this isn’t a common behavior for us. In fact, the average guy’s big complaint is why cant women just say they aren’t interested rather than humiliate them deliberately during an approach. The guys who belittle women the women they reject are the ultra-Chads. The average guy would need to be asked out in order to do rejecting and belittling (news flash average men don’t get asked out).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 10:46 PM
1

Why can’t OP just say she wants poly people to be the new moms and dads?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 10:43 PM
1

FDS is about women with little to offer landing men who are 10/10 husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 10:40 PM
2

Most men won’t even say good morning to women these days. Can we stop pretending there is even amount of applicants from each side?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 10:38 PM
3

Shittyness is enabled by options, and options vary greatly even amongst peers that are objectively similar. Hence the woman who is a 5/10 usually gets more out of it than the man who is 5/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 10:35 PM
2

You mean nearly all of Reddit is this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 10:25 PM
4

“All women are beautiful” is a mantra shoved down the throats of young men. The implication is all women are special but not all men are special.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 12:45 PM
12

Make the consequence for getting knocked up by Chad comparable to the consequence of a regular dude knocking up a stripper. The issue with them picking Chad in the first place is the removal of social shame and the idea that men shouldn’t have preferences. In other countries women know banging Chad means husbands are off the table just like unemployed men know wives are off the table. Women don’t want equal consequences for their choices. They will avoid the shit out of a man with kids and then …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 04:55 AM
19

Well when “all women are beautiful” but not all men are handsome you get skewed numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 08:21 PM
4

Anyone else notice the sliding scale for objectification and in group preference based on gender and race? Whatever men want is “objectification” whatever women want is “preference.” Then it goes white to black based on whether the behavior is “racism.” No one seems to care when the Nigerian dad wants his daughter to marry Nigerian, but when the Swedish guy wants his daughter to marry a Swede it’s “racist.” For the record I’m brown skinned not white 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 07:29 PM
1

Men have no problem waiting 3 months for women they are into provided the woman hold all men to that standard. If I know you slept with our coworker after 1 date why would I wait 3 months? Women charge different men different prices for the same product! No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 03:39 PM
2

Actually that makes you an even bigger POS. Wasting her peak reproductive viability so you can get off. I hear this line of reasoning from scum bags all the time “well I just fuck her we aren’t dating.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 03:21 PM
1

There are a lot of people who either no one wants to commit to or that don’t want to commit to anyone, who are on here trying to ruin relationships for everyone. Just like ugly girls cock block their cute friends, there are anti relationship folks doing their best to ruin it for everyone else. This post is least purple pill post ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 03:15 PM
103

First off, unless you are in a major city most strippers do look like Lena Dunham. I don’t think the average guy cares about “alpha” getting lots of sex, especially from “alpha” females. I think the point the complainers are making is that their looks matches chase alphas until they hit the wall. Which in my experience is true. I’m tall and physically fit and get way more attention from non fit women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 01:43 PM
2

What you seem to not understand is that if women think you “aren’t good enough” they act super shitty and in some cases make a scene. Most men are afraid to say good morning let alone “nice tits.” Way to latch onto the worst possible behavior as some kind of norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 10:51 PM
2

As a guy who does alright in dating, I’ve seen a lot of men crucified on Reddit for asking the wrong questions or having wrong opinion. I can only imagine how that translates into real life. That being said I’ve had dates complain about me “not moving fast enough.” Well who wants to take a chance with all this #metoo stuff. Of course men are going to be overly cautious.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 10:45 PM
2

Little do you know. There are legit female stalkers who cut the baby out of pregnant women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 10:41 PM
-1

Super attractive women have matching friends, but the girl next door types that most men prefer usually have a heifer as a bff.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 10:40 PM
8

Perception of the market isn’t always the reality of the market. They run a confidence game to skew the market hence when a man has a deal breaker he is “shallow” but when women have a deal breaker it’s chalked up to preference and “knowing what she wants.”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 10:36 PM
2

Yes they are real estate agents of pussy. They slap a coat of paint on listings no one wants and try to charge more than the last guy paid. I don’t want to believe FDS represents most women, but one can only hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 10:34 PM
3

TRP often confuses masculinity with sociopathy. They will label some of the most incompetent men as alpha because they are good pickup artists. It’s the equivalent of labeling a total bimbo gold digger as “alpha” because she is a 10 in looks and idiots will line up to fucker. An alpha provides for his alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:31 PM
1

🙌💎
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 07:13 PM
4

Classic and true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 06:56 PM
2

It’s a confidence game. Feminism is the emperor’s invisible robe for the modern woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 11:49 PM
1

True. Loser men usually know they are losers, even average men know they are average. The dating market is brutal on regular men and below because women hate their peers. Lateral dating isn’t something women want to try until their mid 30s, then you start to hear them start with “well I have a PHD why can’t I meet a guy with a PHD?”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 08:32 PM
2

Not true that men seeking marriage look for someone their own age. Men seeking marriage favor fertility. Secondly, these older guys chasing several younger women at once are the same shitheads who chased several women at once throughout their lives, not because they are “older guys.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 08:27 PM
2

Women have been taught to not value motherhood so they can’t wrap their mind around the fact that men (as they have for thousands of years) put the most value on reproductive viability.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 08:21 PM
1

Or their daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 08:15 PM
3

No. You confuse fertility with sexuality. A guy looking for a wife chooses 25 year old who is a 8 over 45 year old who is a 10. Most men want families and value fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 08:10 PM
4

Saying the wall doesn’t exist is like saying looks and money don’t matter for men to possess.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 08:08 PM
5

Not my style, but I know men who literally ask out/befriend as many women as they can, and will talk to dozens a week because at some point months down the line they will “score.” They see this behavior as “sales” or “investing.” It’s usually the super extroverted life of the party guy type who does this shit. Alpha males aren’t social butterflies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:57 AM
8

I know Chad’s who are pussies outside of being Chad. Good looking guys who suck at everything short of talking to women. If you bang a guy who can’t hold a job, don’t be mad if I don’t want to wife you up. Why pay for what he got for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:47 AM
8

Bad behavior isn’t the norm for men. As an example men who commit crimes against women are part of a small percentile, just like men who get dates and sex are part of small percentile. The average man is a professional ass kisser of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:42 AM
4

They don’t like their own logic applied to them, in fact doing so is labeled sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:26 AM
1

Are women going to eliminate Alpha/Beta in exchange? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 01:32 PM
5

Agreed, I’ve known men who are generally if not above averagely respected by other men, who don’t do well with women. I know lots of men who are more talented and competent than me who don’t necessarily do well with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:50 PM
14

When people say “women flirt with everyone” they mean that women are always in sales and marketing mode. It’s natural for them to “work the crowd.” If you are a guy who is “useful” in some sense of the word you will get flirted with a bunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 10:54 PM
4

Some of the men I know who are most successful with women have never held a job longer than 6 months and are basically useless for anything besides picking up women. Could it be some women are also losers? Can we admit women who pick idiots are losers and not try to wife them up post wall? Jonas Brothers selling a lot of records doesn’t make them more talented than Jimi Hendrix.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre17/12/19 11:05 PM
1

Someone explain to her Russian roulette typically involves a 1/6 chance of certain death. Also the player is usually stupid, not blind.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/12/19 10:52 PM
3

They confuse average fat weight with average healthy weight. A better unit of measurement would be BMI. Weight to height ratio can be misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 01:24 PM
0

You aren’t supposed to mention their age, they are supposed to be infinitely beautiful forever regardless of how they only love men on specific conditions like money and looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 01:20 PM
1

I just had a date complaining I wasn’t trying to hookup with her fast enough. #metoo has left some men needing a contract served to them in lingerie before they will make a move. I know there’s plenty of women I would like to say good morning too but won’t because I don’t know how well it will be received.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 11:03 PM
2

End welfare and forced child support and the game changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 11:01 PM
2

Porn is as stupid as professional sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 10:59 PM
13

Women believe attractive men shouldn’t have to follow the rules. Example 1: basketball wives
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 10:55 PM
2

Tyrad
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 12:43 AM
3

Actually it isn’t me it’s the common plight of most people being born now. Take a break from poo pooing opinions you don’t like and look up the current single motherhood statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 02:06 AM
6

Yes there is also Tyrone and Enrique
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 12:15 AM
29

Except most guys don’t have a dad now because mom wanted to bang Chad before trying for a husband. Then they get raised by a single mother who tells them all women are inherently wonderful while men are naturally craptastic. Shocking that they then have a hard time putting their foot down.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 12:09 AM
8

I work with dogs in many capacities. I have observed a noticeable difference between the single woman pitbull owner and the woman who already has kids and gets a pitbull. The single woman pitbull owners habitually pick the most dangerous dogs from the shelter and the women with kids usually pick the actual sweetie pie. When it comes to dog run encounters, it seems like the single woman pitbull owner puts her dog running off leash over the safety of others. They either don’t care or don’t underst…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 12:07 AM
3

Yes, blue pill is a Ponzi scheme.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 01:20 PM
80

40 my ass.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/12/19 07:07 PM
2

Do you actually like this guy? Strange way to start the question. Him paying doesn’t mean you owe sex. It seems not smart to go to his place first date but that’s your call.
/r/RedPillWomen02/12/19 07:38 PM
1

There is competitive lifting in olympics?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 10:50 PM
1

Not true I’m going with a 5 who has a soul over a 10 with no soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 10:42 PM
26

Is it possible for some that fear of rejection has nothing to do with not getting a date. Don’t confuse fear of rejection with fear of punishment. Ask the wrong guy’s “woman” out and get attacked, ask a woman who is melodramatic and get a false reputation, etc. A 6’ doctor will get called a creep if he asks out a woman who doesn’t like guys who dress like him or are his race etc. Literally whoever they don’t want to bang is labeled creep the way shallow dickhead guys will label women who don’t f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 12:29 AM
1

Women’s beauty is linked to fertility. Why would men who want wives and children pick a wife that can’t conceive?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 10:27 PM
1

I think my female friendships effect my world view more so than other way around. Like when I see a female friend who is super average cheating on top shelf guys like they are in unlimited supply I think why even bother dating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 10:24 PM
1

First of all most men are afraid to say good morning to women let alone violently assault them. If you look at actual crime statistics it’s a small pool of repeat offenders. On average it takes 100 offenses before an offender is caught. The entire male species is not responsible for the crimes of the few and therefor does not owe you. Any man dating women for fun is an idiot. If I spend money on you and you aren’t having my kids you are a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:53 PM
-1

If most women were having children I could almost agree with this. Women’s value in this context is contingent on reproductively viability. You can’t charge pre birth control prices for post birth control sex. It sounds like you are against women having objectively equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:38 PM
0

If a guy won’t date you makeup free you’re ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:34 PM
1

Porn is a psyop
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 01:23 PM
1

Are the Jonas Brothers Alpha Males for landing attractive women? I’m pretty sure my HS janitor is a more capable man than a Jonas Brother. No one in danger has ever said “I wish a Jonas Brother was here to save the day.” Some women pick men for retarded reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 01:22 PM
1

Better depends on what the men she dates want. I would imagine woman 1 is going to attract more dead beats. My mom is friends with many of these successful business women and they seem to quite often date super good looking guys with nothing else going for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 01:08 PM
-1

Then why are there so many single mothers if they are so selective?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 01:04 PM
1

Not white but super curious why so many incel references associate it with being white?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 01:26 PM
1

I’m 6’ 2” and while on a okcupid date the woman literally told me within 5 minutes of meeting that I look 6’1” How does that even get brought up 5 minutes in?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 01:17 PM
1

Planned Parenthood, women’s studies departments at public universities, hiring quotas. I’m sure there are more examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 01:14 PM
1

Or if he is 10 looks while she is 5
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 04:15 AM
1

If the situation were reversed, Keith would be seen as a “catch.” Most people (not you and I) have jobs like Keith’s. You are going to miss out on a lot of the best people spiritually.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 04:14 AM
1

The average guy is afraid to say good morning for Christ sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 04:06 AM
1

The force is strong with you. Very high midichlorian count pad won learner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 04:02 AM
6

This is too rational for some folks to comprehend despite being spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 11:09 PM
3

Who decides what boring is? Say you are a thirty something looking for relationship in a major city where most of the women are obsessed with brunch and glamor shots, they will label anyone short of the Dos Equis commercial guy boring. Climbed a mountain boring, competed in a tournament boring, reached a professional milestone boring, while taking a picture with C-list celeb in front of a promotional backdrop is greatest day of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 11:10 PM
1

There are just as many people worshiping women on here as hating them. There is a strong element of “ugly men are ugly but ugly women have beautiful souls.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 05:09 PM
1

Most men have experienced many women in their life with insane options who choose men based on 10 in looks or excitement and then act shocked when her drug dealer athlete boyfriend doesn’t want to become world’s greatest husband. Men don’t marry strippers at the rate women marry criminals. Women are always rolling the dice on the best looking most exciting guy and then want the bench warmer to be happy for getting put in the 4th quarter of the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 05:06 PM
0

You’re responding to him with information based on outliers because it fits in with your views. It seems like you don’t actually care about the reality of things but rather how you would like them to appear. You can’t stand the fact that men have preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 09:31 PM
-1

More like the kind of men women say yes to don’t take them on dates. Chad doesn’t have to spend time or money on them. If they stopped going to clubs to meet Chad and dated people they have culture or interests in common with they would get taken on dates. Men have to care about you to go on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 09:19 PM
2

Only a beta would allow a “10/10” woman to get away with cheating. As a guy with options I can find a new woman who is loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 07:54 PM
2

I’ve always said any woman can get a hot guy on a Tuesday night.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 07:52 PM
-2

Men look at porn? For women everything that isn’t porn, IS porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 07:48 PM
1

Leftists are not short on racism or elitism. Just more calculated in how they play it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 06:27 AM
1

Doesn’t that mean that a ton of men aren’t abusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 06:14 AM
1

But they have less value.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 06:08 AM
1

Because there is a repeating behavior pattern of the young fertile woman with many options who chooses the total scum bag. A guys who “plays by the book” doesn’t want to be stepdad to the child of the guy who pumped and dumped. Single motherhood is largely do to women’s dating choices. As an example, my cousin who is a single mother broke up with super good guy for a guy in a gang who pumped and dumped her into pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 05:58 AM
1

I didn’t say it was negative. Cars are dangerous, doesn’t mean I want to ban them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 10:41 PM
2

If you were truly based there would be MAGA condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 10:27 PM
3

When these women tell you “you don’t know what it’s like to be a woman” you can let them know “you don’t know what it’s like to not know what it’s like to be a woman.”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 10:26 PM
1

“Casual sex” is a marketing term. Even wild dogs practice abstinence, population control, who breeds with who etc. Who you have sex with is actually a big deal. Deer kill each other over it. Animal husbandry is part of mammalian life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 10:21 PM
3

Fertility clinics charge 10x more for egg donations over sperm. End of discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 01:03 AM
1

Most men don’t want a “bad bitch.” There are elements behind the scenes pushing that bad bitch crap (among other things) to divide the sexes. Also men are told early in life to expect women to always have good intentions. In my experience men have less tolerance for bad behavior. Most men don’t forgive a cheater because she is valuable. Whereas women will forgive men who are valuable, example NBA wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 01:01 AM
8

Mentioning that she is “cultured” and has a graduate degree is irrelevant to most men. I know “cultured” people who are raging alcoholics. In regards to the pot, there are plenty of great guys who use it that would love to meet a woman who also uses it. Why does she have to be with this one guy in particular?
/r/RedPillWomen29/10/19 06:34 PM
30

I have no idea what average is. Some think being 6’2” and making million a year is average man. I hear female friends all the time say they want average but then only date 6’ and up, I’m 6’2” which is like 10 percent or less of population. Anyone can be exceptional in a single area and still be “average” if rated low in other areas. I wish there was a chart for both sexes that depicted people’s corresponding value.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 11:03 PM
1

Female entitlement is when they downgrade themself and then expect an upgrade. Example, has kid by Chad or Tyrone and then expects husband with 100k + salary. Male entitlement is expecting women to fuck you that you dont and will never care about or thinking you can get a 10 as a 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 07:41 PM
2

Entertainment media is porn for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 07:34 PM
5

Went on a date with 5’2” Asian girl (I’m 6’3” Latino) and before she even said hello to me she said “you look more like 6’2”. And that my friends is exactly why men perceive women as heightists. I can only imagine what it is like for dudes under 6’.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 10:01 PM
4

I’ve seen tall good looking guys get left for short rich guys. It’s a common phenomenon just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 12:28 PM
14

If he has money it isn’t out of the ordinary.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 12:17 PM
6

Bad example, cities are kennels that rely on the small towns for food production and natural resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 09:52 PM
3

They don’t want Billy Beta running off the estrogen plantation.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/19 12:32 AM
54

A lot of men see women with cats as a flag. Less men than more men don’t like cats as pets. I’m not trying to deter or change your outlook.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/09/19 07:10 PM
1

Of course not, if it were then the ranks would be filled with Olympic power lifters and competitive strong men. Strength is just one of many requisites. Courage and mental toughness and an even longer list of qualities also factor in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 12:37 PM
1

Yes because studs are the few and gold diggers are the many.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 12:33 PM
0

When I think alpha I think of guys I did combat sports with or navy seals. Being a Jonas Brother isn’t alpha but it’s getting them laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 12:20 PM
2

If you are 145+ IQ you wouldn’t be promoting gender roles as an inherently bad thing as they are a legitimate component of human animal husbandry. In regards to the folks focused on n-count I don’t think they are all coming from same place. The folks who aren’t having kids or getting married usually don’t care about the topic because they aren’t true players in the reproductive game. Men not wanting to marry thots is the same as women not wanting to marry habitually unemployed men. I hope no cri…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 10:21 PM
1

And if no one stole or murdered we wouldn’t need cops.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 10:19 PM
1

Just like in Skyrim
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 10:16 PM
6

I hope your guy knows he is luckiest dude around. This is one of the smartest comments on the subject I have heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 10:15 PM
1

I hope your guy knows he is luckiest dude around. This is one of the smartest comments on the subject I have heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 10:06 PM
1

Stop pandering.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 06:11 PM
2

From the male perspective it seems like most of the time the step father (or boyfriend of single mother) is a guy who wouldn’t have been given a chance back when she wasn’t a single mother. I have personally experienced this and also witnessed it with friends. A woman gets knocked up by a guy who is 10 in looks, gets abandoned and always of a sudden is willing to date lower tier that is stable. Rarely is the stepfather the guy she would pick first or find most attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 06:10 PM
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Women are “creeped out by low value men” and then there is the millionaire 6 ft tall pitcher who just lost his career over chasing minors. I love how Reddit keeps pushing the narrative that good looking men don’t abuse women and average looking guys are criminals😂🤣😭
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 12:49 PM
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TRP is opposite of blue pill, both have their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 01:28 AM
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The more badass you are the safer you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 03:06 PM
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Nerdy girls are viewed as “approachable” and “girl next door.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 03:05 PM
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You are sort of right, but before recorded history the 80/20 rule was going on when people lived “wild.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 03:03 PM
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