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CMVzitdok/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 11:17 PM
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CMVzitdok/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 09:50 PM
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Debatezitdok/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 05:02 AM
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I am not debating with a troll account created 17 hours ago. Nice try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 10:16 PM
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It seems your denying that people can also sway predominantly one way or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 11:24 PM
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No one is saying anything about 100% or black and white, it seems you didn't read my post correctly. I am talking about men who possess a pre-dominant personality of caring, compassion, concern, and giving.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 10:17 PM
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Beta bucks is very common among the working class. Men working Union jobs can easily make over 70k a year even in low cost rural areas. Waitresses often go for these types of men. This doesn't make sense. If most working class men can make 70k a year no one would be poor in low cost rural areas. Not sure what your trying to get at. Are you saying beta bucks is a lower class phenomenon?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 10:09 PM
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Because they are often average, if not pretty bad-looking men, yet they are treated by women like they are Chaddicus Maximus. But there was just a thread on here saying how women are 4x as sensitive to rating men as more attractive if they have high wealth and status. Do you not believe the ability to command a company and earn money is attractive to women? Women weren't interested in them until they happened to get money so it doesn't take a genius to know what is going on. This is the same as …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 10:08 PM
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I don't believe this really happens outside college campuses. And even then, the only times I have personally heard a girl report a regret-drunk-sex type of scenario is like a freshman girl who went in way over her head. In one scenario, the girl was drunk, but not anywhere near passed out, and ended up giving several guys blow jobs and had a Bukakke done on her. She was saying to the school newspaper she would have never agreed to something like that while sober.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 10:05 PM
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Also TRP does not build alpha males, it builds attractive betas. What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 10:00 PM
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They are drawn to those resources, not to the men. That is an important difference. How do you know this? How did you form this opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 09:56 PM
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This is false because all of the men involved in the metoo issue are high wealth high status men. Matt Lauer was the host of America's most watched show in morning time for many years. Other men are media stars. These are not average men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 06:55 PM
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talking about how they could easily overpower her in a predatory way, etc. In my experience it's usually where some short women go after tall guys because they love the huge height difference. Such as Shaq with his 5'2" girlfriend. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/08/article-2023772-0D59B16C00000578-860_468x658.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 06:07 AM
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I highly doubt any woman on the planet, would be disgusted by a man who is a billionaire. People really underestimate what it even means to be a billionaire. I think this sub uses too many mental dramatizations...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 10:02 PM
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Very confused by the emphasis on women not caring about morality when it comes to attraction. Well traditionally men were taught that women want gentlemen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 08:00 AM
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Are you talking about people in general or by men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 12:46 AM
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all of the above are negatives, to me. How can a big butt, thick legs and big boobs be a negative?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 11:48 PM
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You seem to be versed well in legal matters. Can bring a virgin really be used in an argument about consent though? Because I thought that, from what I have heard, implied consent doesn't indicate consent. Like a woman who is married can certainly consent to sex with men besides her husband. This seems like the reverse scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 08:53 PM
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Are you a radical feminist? I believe your the one reading that and feeling it's bitter. There is no word I used that indicate I feel bitter. Just for some perspective I'm a 6'4" guy who has done modeling before, not whatever neckbeard your assuming I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 08:05 PM
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No one said it is evil? Did you respond to the wrong comment ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 04:05 PM
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Most women, in my experience have some fantasy of locking down an amazing man. They get off on the idea of being the one this great and powerful man chooses.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 07:55 AM
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Just for curiosity, I researched the dilemma you claimed, there are IG models who are escorts but it's not related to follower count, and often inversely correlated to it. It's just related to how lavish their belongings are, with an absence of any job. http://tagthesponsor.com/ Even some of the girls only have 1-2k followers. The higher the follower count gets the higher the risk of getting exposed
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 07:37 AM
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Do I have to be actively taking part of something in order for my assertion to be correct? Yes you do. You seem to be basing your assertion off your own ideas vs ideas formed through observation. I don't understand how you could form these without observations. Like before I used prostitutes twice in thailand, any real idea I have about what being with prostitutes is like is just formed in my head. Like I said I know people who do use social media and they pull it up on their phones and show me …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:08 AM
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I don't use Instagram or any other social media for that matter So your making a blanket statement about a platform you are not even using? Does that make much sense to you? Now how does that refute my point that many other women just like her are hookers in disguise? Do you see the difference between the two profiles i linked? Do you see the difference in how to tell if one is likely an escort or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 01:32 AM
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I'm merely trying to convey that you can manipulate social media. But that's just the point, in video games you are crafting reality, not manipulating it,
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 12:36 AM
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and how do you know they are coming from wealthy families? I actually follow their stories and see who they are and what their parents do, where they live etc. Things you are denying or not interested in. It's one thing to post your life on social media, it's another thing entirely to invite the world to contact for 'private companionship' Please post some examples? Sounds to me like you're in denial about the fact that many of these women are just glamorized whores. Your the one asserting facts…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 12:34 AM
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For women, for men it's 4'11 I think ? dwarfism actually isn't categorized by a specific height cut off. Polynomial dwarfism is a genetic disorder, and has a larger head relative to the body. This is separate from growth hormone deficiency, which can actually be treated if caught early with HGH. source: both parents are doctors.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 11:50 PM
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These young women who claim to be 'models', secretaries, bartenders, lawyers, etc, yet they are able to afford constant trips to the Bahamas, Europe, holding high end drinks, wearing lavish clothing, plastic surgery, etc. That's because most of them are from wealthy areas like Los Angeles, New York, or the SF bay area and come from wealthy families. Very few high follow IG accounts are from outside high cost of living areas I am curious do you ever bother to actually follow the stories of these …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 11:47 PM
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Those aren't excessive gamers then. College atheletes have around, 30-35 hours of practice needed per week, depending on the sport. Even if a college athlete plays games, they aren't spending a majority of their time with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 10:29 PM
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A lot of those women with 80k+ followers on instagram are in fact hookers Do you have any sources to support that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 10:19 PM
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but if the product is as simple and obvious as a hot girl, there's no real mystery as to how folks will react. So if that's the case why don't all hot girls have the same amount of followers? Why don't girls who have 2-3 million look the same as girls who have 20k followers? I'm curious, have you even played video games like grand theft auto before? It really seems from the way your taking you haven't. You can't magically pump up your muscles and go around crashing cars and post pictures of it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 09:56 PM
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but that doesn't speak to a greater level of control over the outcome. Of course it does. A video game is a virtual reality. What happens is controlled by a computer program. There are no real laws when it comes to the extent of a video games world. Hell, there is even virtual reality games now. Social media is based on the worlds reality. You cannot change the amount of likes or followers you get. That is determined by the algorithm Facebook or Instagram uses, and what other people like. For wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 07:13 PM
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but I'd say that men and women have about even control through their respective platforms. There is a formula that works on Instagram, and if you hit it, you will get attention. But the formula to get lots of instagram followers is passive. Like I said in another comment, I used to date a girl with around 70-75k IG followers. All she did was post pictures of herself in club dresses and string bikini's. I even helped take some of the photos. In videogames you are active. You have to constantly ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 06:31 PM
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Here's a better way to look at this. A woman's beauty is much more highly correlated with looking youthful than a man's. Skin tightness, lack of wrinkles, perky butt, no sagging skin, is often correlated with how old someone is. A man's beauty is more associated with strength, power, confidence, and masculinity. Although at some point men being old is not attractive, that is more inlined with the adaption of frail and weak looking features. Here's an example. Men with baby faces are seen as less…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 06:26 PM
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I liked your female social media usage theory though. It was articulate and succinct. Care to elaborate a little on it? Women, or younger women have an intense pleasure from being thought of as desirable, wanted, or attention worthy. Women like being a passive entity that draws lots of attention and adoration. Specifically, this relates to women wanting to look beautiful or be acknowledged for looking beautiful. In real life though, this presents a common problem, getting that desire or attentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 06:15 PM
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I disagree. Video games for men present an environment of power and control. In most games like halo, mario, GTA ones, etc, you go around stopping other computer characters with violence or objects that subdue them. Men love to have power and video games simulate power. Social media for women, or Instagram for example is all about attention and being desired. It's in a sense a submissive platform because all the power is in other people's hands, as they determine how many likes and followers you…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 05:00 PM
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When you see a prozzie she's only doing it because you're paying her and she pretends to enjoy it. But I am saying in my experience, there is absolutely no way you could actually judge that from the interaction. They are so welcoming and seductive that it feels just like a regular girl. But again, I never had trouble getting girls in a normal setting without pay, so take this with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 04:56 PM
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Oh it's you again. Do you not see how not having had sex and not wanting to have sex (asexual) are related? How is being a man related to being a rapist?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 04:51 PM
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So it's logical to assume a virgin girl is an asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 07:12 AM
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Someone is either asexual or not, it does not just change arbitrarily. Who is more likely to be an asexual, a virgin or a woman who has had 3 partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 06:22 AM
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Well, the absence of sexual activity does in some indicate asexual intensions. Maybe not permanent asexuality, but temporary for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 05:44 AM
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Someone who is unsure whether their n is 15 or 17 is far from the median. I think your older or not familiar with the type of people I am talking about. It's very common in college for people to hookup a lot in freshman year, or the 2nd year. I mean the people who party the most in a large, state school are freshman. Theres a lot of, at the very least, increases in sexual partner count going on. For those that regularly engage in it, they are going to drive their count way up. In my own experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 05:14 AM
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Cuz they don't really want sex they want validation. But how is sex not always validating? I mean unless you specifically thought in your mind that sex with prostitutes isn't validating, your going to feel like a sex god. It seems like this is built into their confirmation bias. I mean, having 3 girls sit next to each other and take turns blowing me one after the next made me feel like the greatest man in the entire world. The idea your paying them doesn't even factor in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 02:52 AM
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So you never created any other email addresses for different purposes? Such as reddit accounts, or accounts on various websites? Did you know your internet service provider almost always makes you your own email address as well? (Comcast does ) And to your other point, yea I am not talking about the amount of people on the lower end. I think there are many people in the 10+ or 15+ range not being accounted for or simply forgetting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 11:50 PM
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I would imagine that for most people, their sexual partners are substantially more memorable than their email addresses. So, you remember exactly how many email addresses you had in your entire life? And what each one is? unreliable compared to what? Compared to things people normally keep track of, such as finances, salary, income, medical health, what they do to look attractive, how often they go to the gym, etc. It's one thing to say that we can't be sure that it's reliable, but quite enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 11:12 PM
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If your looking at people in their 20's now, it's way higher than that. Even myself, as a guy who is 27, I don't know what my partner count is. I know it's more than 10, but beyond that I lost count. I don't distinctly remember all the women I have had sex with. You can't scientifically sample something which is very loosely if at all kept track of. You can sample things like how much money people spend on this or that, what kind of men or women they like etc, but most people aren't keeping care…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 11:04 PM
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Self reported data on a subject which is loosely kept track of is not reliable. It's not because of dishonesty, it's simply because most people aren't keeping exact track of their n-count. It would be similar to asking people how many email addresses they ever had, or how many guys in their whole life have they hugged.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 10:57 PM
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you find "cute as a speckled pup" sexy? sexually hot? it turns you on and make syou want to fuck and suck him? This is a great example of women not really being able to convey what they find sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 07:31 PM
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I don't get why they don't just use prostitutes. I swear. Even me being a really tall guy and never had real trouble getting girls, the foursome i paid for in thailand was the best 2 hours of my life, hands down.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 07:29 PM
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you are aware that most professional athletes cheat with groupies right? Where do you know this from? Have you worked for the NBA or the NFL in some capacity?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 07:28 PM
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Because they want to fuck women and are stupid? Not hard to figure that one out. Are you a troll? Do you understand getting married limits you to a single woman? As in no more fucking "women" but only a single "woman". Blaming anything that debunks your arguments as "stupid" is a sign of bad debating skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 07:04 AM
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Men want to win at stuff, whether that's basketball, business, or the brawl outside the local bar, because winners get to fuck women. Everything we do is either directly or indirectly done with the goal of fucking women. Can you explain why nearly all NBA athletes end up being married at a reasonable age then? Or why nearly all billionaires are married or end up being married at relatively young ages? Are you an incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 04:25 AM
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Why do guys look up to people in the NBA? Because those guys get to fuck lots of attractive women. Oh please dude, this statement is not even logical. Do you seriously believe that men don't genuinely like basketball?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 04:01 AM
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I'm not talking about crime rates and statistics. I'm talking about the fact that there are some Asian dudes who are some mean motherfuckers who can fight despite their small stature. Your talking about one's who are vast outliers. Crime statistics and the tendency to be violent are inherently correlated. Also the vast majority of Asian men, specifically in Asia do not lift.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 02:43 AM
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Yeah I lifted with some Asian guy a few months back and his strength was quite a surprise because his behavior and aesthetics didn't match up with the weight he was pullin' (we weren't exactly lifting heavy, but you get my point). The vast majority of Asian men are not avid lifters. Again, strawman type arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 02:36 AM
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Have you listened to grime music from the UK? I haven't, How much is grime music apart of UK culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 02:34 AM
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Who enforces this fixation on hyper-masculinity? Umm, who watches the NBA?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 02:33 AM
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Dude, some of those small Asian guys are some crazy fiesty bastards who will fuck you up. Just becuase they look short and skinny doesn't mean they won't rip your balls off in a scrap. This is a strawman. The amount of violent crime in Asian countries is so overwhelmingly low compared to America or any other region of the world this isn't a reasonable assessment to make. The Buddhist religion, for some countries, teaches non-violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 02:33 AM
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My theory is that it gives constant exposure to extraordinarily exceptional men much more than one would ever run into.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 05:42 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 05:18 AM
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Talking to a woman in public is potentially being considered harassment nowadays. What on earth? Where did you get this idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 05:15 AM
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So don't get it twisted. But it's heightened in America because of how society treats and glorifies women and vilifies men. How does America vilify men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 05:12 AM
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Your "argument" doesn't explain why hypergamy is found in the entire world, and even less, why it has been found to be prevalent for centuries, long before America was born. Alright, I am just saying from my observation, there does seem to be an inflation of male sex appeal in the USA relative to other countries. Yes to some degree women wanting better men is found everywhere, but the inflation part means the ideal desirable man is far above even above average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 05:05 AM
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In this country men who increase their masculinity have better success with women. Right, but there appears to be a glamorization of violence in association with masculinity that isn't found in other countries as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 04:58 AM
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Then you're probably unattractive in the face. No, I have done modeling before, definitely not my problem. I think the whole idea here is that without some prior socialization or already being in my social circle, it's hard to get a hot girl's attention at a party, specifically talking about in college. Take your height and subtract a foot. Woah yeah, then if your 5'4" or so thats well below the average height of men, and getting to where some women are taller than you. It's perfectly reasonable…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 04:55 AM
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So, women come fitted with time travel machines. Not following?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 04:52 AM
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Same old shit, different package. AWALT. I don't think so, I have a few Chinese buddies who are like, 8's or considered top notch guys back home but here they have a super hard time dating any girl who isn't an international Asian as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 04:52 AM
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Men in America are just responding to what increases their sexual success. Not getting what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 04:51 AM
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Uh, what nations? Can you name one that isn't in northwestern europe? Thailand, Vietnam, Japan, China, and Singapore. The men there are very much smaller in stature, less muscular, and less bold and aggressive and less violent than the American ideal form of masculinity. What is tradionalist masculinity?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 04:49 AM
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she automatically looks towards you as you approach her has positive energy flowing before you utter a word. What do you mean positive energy flowing? How can you see energy? This has never happened to that extent, if your talking about euphoric glee, except for below average girls at parties. Hot girls are usually wrapped up in themselves. How tall are you? Or do you have any physical deformities?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 04:38 AM
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Except a woman INTERPRETS how the person behaves and presents based off how he looks. Its the halo effect. Simple. That's a psychotic statement. How a person behaves has nothing to do with their looks. Behaving is an action. Trust me dude, I am 6'4" and quite muscular. All the times I just stood in the middle of a party and didn't approach girls I didn't get any pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 10:54 PM
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is divided into upper-upper class (1% of the U.S. population, earning hundreds of millions to billions per year) and the lower-upper class (2%, earning millions per year). Sorry but where did you get these numbers from? The top 1% household income is only $389,000 or so per year http://www.businessinsider.com/top-one-percent-every-us-state-2016-11 Even the top .01%, from same article, is in the 2-3 million per year range. Your data is heavily flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 06:51 AM
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But what would not be considered a career woman then?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 06:27 AM
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Porn didn't create black men having larger penises, that's a genetic feature. what the fuck does interracial dating have to do with it? Your aware about 35 or 40 years ago interracial marriage was illegal and dating interracially was met with severe consequences right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 09:25 PM
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In my opinion I don't think it's porn that does this, I think it's simply more main stream integration of hip hop culture or black culture. I mean the saying "once you go black, you never go back" came from somewhere. Also there are more non black women getting married to black men amongst celebrities. The kardashians are an example. In the past interracial dating was highly discouraged and even the target of hate crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 08:56 AM
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So you think that in every relationships she's been in, it's more likely that the individual circumstances of each relationship led to their diminished sex drive, rather than shd just has a higher libido? Which one makes more sense? We don't know. It could be a mix of both, or one, or the other. The point is it's a question that can only give bias answers. It would be similar to asking a red piller if all of their past girlfriends gave them shit tests. Based on their belief they are inclined to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 04:41 AM
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I don't understand why you guys are so suspect of this. Do you really think that in absolutely every single hetero pairing, the man always and without fail has the higher sex drive? Not me, I think it's possible for a woman to have a higher drive, it's just most of the time a woman says this, it's based off circumstantial factors limiting the mans sex drive, like work stress, time, the women being fat, the woman not giving him bj's, etc. Also, when most guys are in a horny state, they just want …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 10:53 PM
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Well yes then I pretty much think the same way you do. It's an itch that needs to be scratched. It's just I have seen some people, in other areas of the internet make the absurd claim men, in the modern world, can live perfectly happy lives without ever having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 09:28 PM
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think about it this way. If one wants to keep a forum of discussion unbiased, one needs to take steps to prevent the forum being morphed into a bias forum. Unless you are unaware, Reddit as a whole seems to be a liberal-leaning or left wing platform. Many subs exist as a one sided area of discussion. And I am sure you have seen, on social media, comments section on trump articles, and the amount of bias there. If one allows a free for all, this sub in my prediction would become overrun and biase…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 09:27 PM
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I don't care if people are "nice." In fact, as I said earlier, why not just make it a free-for-all with no holds barred? Why throw out a "little snark" but then call for the moderators when met with venom in return? Either it's not meant to be a safe space, or it is. Why equivocate back and forth? That's like saying why say there is free speech when you still get in trouble if you yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater. Don't you think there are limits?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 07:35 PM
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So why did they continue anyway if the only reason for motivation is sex? Oh, it appears I misunderstood the idea. I thought of is as "Men need the presence and a consistent source of sex in their lives to do the best of what they do", not that "men do everything they do for the primary reason of getting sex" Hopefully that clarifies. I do believe nearly all men need a source of sex to have the spark to do what they do best or achieve highly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 07:33 PM
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How is her comment ignorant? What is it ignorant of? She is claiming her sex drive is higher than anyone she has dated, yet she is claiming that from a woman's perspective. It's ignoring how the man feels differently about sex, or if her lack of attractiveness, if that's the case, effected their sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 07:31 PM
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I didn't say that they were rules, but just good netiquette. Otherwise, why discuss anything at all? Because it seems, that part of this sub is meant to be a sort of clash against normative spaces to argue gender issues. It's not meant to be a safe space here, as what some other people have told me. To regulate all bad netiquette is getting into Political correctness territory which seems against the point of this sub. Many subs exist as safe spaces already.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 07:22 PM
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Steve Jobs and Elon Musk both had/have wives and families, they weren't running about chasing pussy and didn't need to flex to get girls, but somehow still motivated to achieve and create things. They are both older people when their lives became public. Do we know what they did when they were younger? They still had wives /girlfriends, hence some amount of consistent sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 07:20 PM
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Okay, but she's not claiming she has higher testosterone. Her doctor cannot check her for a high sex drive. But then the comment is completely ignorant. It's like a red piller claiming they know precisely how women can feel out what is alpha and what is beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 07:10 PM
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I really don't buy this whole idea that humans only do stuff for sex, it's bullshit. Many of the people who've really innovated and discovered new things in the world even had no interest in sex at all - e.g. Tesla and Newton. Using people who lived hundreds of years ago as an example of how men live today might not be the best idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 05:15 PM
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It doesn't matter if it's directed at a person or not. It's not personal. One isn't attacking s personal feature or self. Also you appear to be making up "on topic" vs "off topic" rules which as I check, don't appear in the rules of this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 05:11 PM
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The two are directly, tightly linked. Women with disorders where they have no testosterone have almost no sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 04:36 PM
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Ok confused, have you had a testosterone blood test? And compared it to people you dated? If your testosterone was that high you would be growing facial hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 04:36 PM
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Ok confused, have you had a testosterone blood test? And compared it to people you dated? If your testosterone was that high you would be growing facial hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 04:35 PM
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Ok confused, have you had a testosterone blood test? And compared it to people you dated? If your testosterone was that high you would be growing facial hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 04:35 PM
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Your jumping the gun here. A perineal attack by definition has to be Ad Hominem, onto the person. An eye roll is the same as thinking someone's opinion is ridiculous. That's not attacking themselves or attributes of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 04:33 PM
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Where do you see actual upper class men marrying playboy bunnies and having kids with them. Maybe as 3rd-4th wives at most Well playboy bunny is a figure of speech, sorry if that was unclear. What I have seen from relatives who are doctors (come from family mostly of physicians), is they marry wives who have average or ordinary jobs, like nurses, HR, dental assistants, medical technicians, and buy them lots of cosmetic and plastic surgeries to look really amazing. But those jobs might not really…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 12:44 AM
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I had the account for only a week and had a few thousand. It's ridiculously easy. Just look up popular hashtags for the type of photo you're uploading and paste them all into the description and you'll see what I mean. Yes, I have tried that before, Unless I didn't specify, I am talking about the 50k-80k follower range and above.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 12:24 AM
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Upper class men don't marry and have children with hot Denny's waitresses. No but they might with a playboy bunny, or some sexualized, lower class figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 12:13 AM
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Got hundreds of likes and followers a day. My phone was blowing up with notifications constantly. How many followers did you end up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 12:06 AM
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that I have heard from men in my social circles. Yes, like I mentioned you appear to have very different social circles than most people here. Are you religious? Go to church a lot?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 10:26 PM
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Well, what most men say about "easy" women is the exact opposite. Most men say that a having sex with a girl who isn't sleepkng around provides more validation, and if a girl you barely know wants to have sex with you, chances are she's sleeping around. Where are you getting your observation of "most men" from? Are you islamic or from an islamic nation?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 10:04 PM
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Is he truly upper class, though? He was able to run for President, as a Black Republican, so that's something. Well I mean, if an ivy-league educated world class neurosurgeon, who is now the secretary of urban housing and development is not upper class what is? What are you thinking of as "upper class"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 10:01 PM
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Oh dear, what are "mature" men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 09:36 PM
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If the sex is easily obtained, that means that the girl is "easy" and her consenting to sex isn't that rare. If it took some effort to convince the girl to have sex, that means that you are actually special. Getting something that's hard to get provides validation, not the other way. Your looking at it backwards. The more effort a man puts into a woman, effort meaning dates, dinners, time, talking etc, the more investment is required for sex. The less effort a man puts into a woman, the less inv…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 09:36 PM
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Hmmm, i noticed you are not based in the US https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/7libck/cmv_all_things_equal_a_career_woman_has_a_much/drmrd2z/ If that's true, then were talking about drastically different work schedules and how much effort or say time a career really takes. In the US doctors work crazy hours, and med school literally eats up your entirely life. Many many doctors commit suicide from the stress. https://www.thedailybeast.com/american-doctors-are-killing-themselves-a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 08:56 PM
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who are ambitious, entrepeneurial and assertive, but I do not believe that these are masculine features per se, They most certainly can be, it's use impossible to classify them without meeting such a woman in question. People have different thresholds of what "assertive" means. How high of an income level are we talking for your idea of "career woman", and what kind of profession?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 08:38 PM
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Ben Carson did. He originally lived in public housing. He went from poverty to upper class as a black man too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 08:33 PM
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This. It's not really possible to debate without knowing what the poster of this post has in mind for their idea of a career woman. The girl I am dating now, for example, has a successful micro blading business where she teaches people how to become microbladers, and has a large array of clients she works with. On top of that she also makes ad money from youtube vids on makeup tutorials, and is saving up to buy a nail salon franchise . However, she is very feminine, wears lots of makeup, gets li…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 08:31 PM
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You didn't talk about career verses non career. You made some crazy response that came out of thin air that doesn't really address what OP said But she made a very good point. What's defined as a career woman is ambiguous here. It's defined in a much more masculine, bad ass way by more liberal/feminists types, or just by other people as a woman who is a skilled professional. This is needed context to properly give insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 08:28 PM
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The richest and supposedly more developed countries are often ridiculed for their men being "too feminine" and "not nearly manly enough". Their society no longer needs that kind of men, so there is little demand by women, which results in little supply by men. Not really. Which countries are you referring to? America has the biggest fitness culture of almost any country on the planet. Do women chase the strong, powerful "money and muscle" super man? They did, but as history progressed they reali…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 05:37 PM
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Not an expert on this, but from one of my friends who works for instagram, he told me once in an indirect way the search algorithm uses artificial intelligence to guess what people find most visually appealing, and he said that's in part why even regular girls who put on lots of makeup and take suggestive photos can get like 50k followers easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 05:35 PM
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The question here though is what does "career woman" mean? Is it a masculinized, pumped up business leader type? Or does it just mean a woman who is entrepreneurial. The girl I am dating now, for example, has a successful micro blading business where she teaches people how to become microbladers, and has a large array of clients she works with. On top of that she also makes ad money from youtube vids on makeup tutorials, and is saving up to buy a nail salon franchise . However, she is very femin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 05:31 PM
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Men are very easily exciting about getting sex easily. Have you honesty never heard men bragging about who they hooked up with last night ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 04:40 PM
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My hypothetical island has the kind of pigs they had on survivor island. Just pink, friendly dog-like pigs. ;) I think you don't understand that when you try to kill animals they try to survive and fight back.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 06:47 AM
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As a woman, men wanting to have sex with you is not that impressive. Men want to have sex with everyone. I am also a conventionally attractive person so this is even less interesting. So no, bragging is unecessary. Well there's your answer. The whole point here is women aren't enjoying sex more because it's more or less casual. There isn't a heightened degree of pleasure that you got a guy to let you give him a blow job just after you let him in the bathroom, but for men it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 06:15 AM
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Except you missed the whole part about women not being excited or impressed about how easy this to get sex.... The problem here is, "casual" sex is a male concept. Men are the one's who are more validated or excited by the idea of sex coming with very little investment in the woman or a short time after meeting her. This also applies to the idea of one night stands or hookups. A lot of male fantasies or role plays revolve around non-relationship settings or hence "casual" settings, such as getti…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 06:09 AM
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Two questions: Have you ever felt more validated the sooner you had sex with a guy after meeting him? Meaning, do you get off more on how quickly the sex occurs? Regardless of the quality of the sex? Do you ever brag about or feel good about how easily it is for you to get sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 01:36 AM
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This one is aimed primarily for RPer's. If you're married, you simply can not be RP. You are chained into a LTR that you can not leave without getting shafted financially and possible losing other assets/kids. Correct me if I'm wrong, RP relies on maintaining control of relationships by having the power to leave them through abundance attitude and aloof mindset towards partners. I am not familiar with RP entirely, but one thing that stuck out so far is that "attraction can't be negotiated". Whet…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 10:48 PM
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You said women only have sex when they feel enchanted. I'm asking you what's enchating about tinder dudes asking if you want dick? This seems to be a straw man sort of argument. Most men on tinder aren't successful, the matching rate on tinder is much lower for men than it is for women. I even found this on google for "tinder matching rates" http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tinder-man-swipes-right-on-200000-women-with-little-success-a7168056.html Enchanting here is just another t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 10:45 PM
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Not following? What does this have to do with my post? Is a girl telling "chad" to wait 2 months before sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 10:30 PM
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Okay, you can use the same logic to say sex isn't casual to men either, she brings him excitement and lust. But if that was the case men would also give similar answers. Men wouldn't be bragging or lying about "What girl did you take home from the club last night?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 10:18 PM
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The excitement for the woman comes from her desire - NOT from how quickly and easily she got the guy to have sex with her. In other words, she doesn't gain any validation from the ease and speed in which she gets to have sex. Well then you agree with me. What I meant in the other comment is, the question is not so much if women in hindsight or open or closed to the idea of casual sex, it's more of what they think in the right moment with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:22 PM
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She would have to already be open to the idea of casual sex. Generally she would also already be horny or drunk or an excitement-seeker. You misunderstand the basic point of this post. Your claiming, or leaning toward that women always follow what their mind tells them when they aren't in the presence of certain men. Life isn't ideal. People often end up doing or trying things they say they aren't open to doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:19 PM
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I don't understand what being genuine and honest have to do with having or abstaining from casual sex in this context. If one is threatened with legal punishment or cruel punishment for some behavior, you cannot accurately judge whether or not they truly desire to perform that behavior or enact it, because they are answering or telling you or doing certain things to prevent being punished or retaliated against. It's like why gays or homosexuals in muslim or other countries against homosexual act…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:17 PM
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it's just an extreme example to illustrate my point, there are degrees. But it's not really an example because when someone is under extreme external pressures they aren't really making genuine or honest decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:51 PM
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They're all phony liars' even though most comments on here show that women get attracted immediately. Your arguing a reverse, backwards correlation. The women who are attracted to men off the bat aren't making them wait 3 months to have sex with them. We don't have proof the women who do say they are attracted immediately are making their men wait. On the flip side, you have stories like this https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/7lb1ii/women_dont_have_casual_sex_they_just_have_sex/…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:49 PM
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So you acknowledge that there are reasons other than how arousing and enchanting a man is that affect whether or not a woman has sex with him. thats all. I mean, bringing totalitarian societies (saudi arabia, iran) into the mix seems like a bit of an exaggeration....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:45 PM
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I don't like casual sex because I'm validated by getting a girl into bed quickly. It's because sex is a fun activity, even with women that I'm not looking for a relationship with. It's like - I like getting a massage. I don't necessarily have to get a massage from a woman I'm in love with in order for it to be an enjoyable activity. My enjoyment of massages is not based on how quickly I get get someone to give me a massage. But time is directly related to the amount of investment in a woman requ…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:31 PM
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What a load of horseshit. No one says that. Plenty of women are saying that right on this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/7lb1ii/women_dont_have_casual_sex_they_just_have_sex/drl2ej1/?context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:18 PM
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in those cultures, women generally abstain from casual sex. is this because they haven't met an arousing man? No it's because they are obligated if not enforced to abstain from casual sex. If your parents yelled at you and abused you for not adhering to religious doctrine do you not see how that influences people into adopting a certain way of thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:18 PM
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They value if she doesn't give it out as easily and they are the ones to get it. They value conquering it for the first time. They value the intimacy sex provides. It's not all about the physical pleasure bro. Are you a man or a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:16 PM
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A women can be very aroused from you the moment she meets you but she might make you wait a bit for a number of different reasons. Maybe she's turned on but doesn't wanna give out the goods too quick etc. There's a whole load of other reasons I can't be arsed getting into as well. What reason is there to wait?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:16 PM
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i could never wait two months to have sex with a guy, it would mean i'm not attracted. Well that's exactly what I am trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 07:55 PM
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how do you explain religious women who are raised in an environment where sex before marriage is a horrible sin? or punishable as in Muslim countries? I am not following here. Those are religious guidelines or laws placed onto women, often by men. What are you trying to get me to explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 07:53 PM
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so you're saying that men will have casual sex with women that they don't feel any attraction and/or lust for? just the idea of fucking a girl right after meeting her is enough? No, I am saying a man that gets to have sex very soon after meeting a woman will be more validated than if he had to date her for 2 months before he had sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 07:47 PM
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It's funny how men can listen to a girl constantly talk about a guy and not think that she would fuck him as soon as she gets the chance. Well it depends on what exactly they say. This isn't true universally. Women do seriously talk bad about men they don't like. But if you hear "full of himself" and "tries to hit on me", those are flags for suspicion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 06:23 PM
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That's an example of what I am trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 06:21 PM
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On how quickly they can get a man to have sex? No, that's not validation, that's horny men. We get our validation from being desired, being wanted. That look of lust in a man's eyes, the feeling of urgency in his touch. THAT is female validation. Well thats essentially my opinion, maybe i just didn't use the right terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 06:20 PM
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bahah you're the one claiming men only do it for the physical stimulation So your saying that the physical stimulation of a hand versus a woman's mouth is exactly the same? Are you being honest with what your saying here?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 06:18 PM
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Are you one of those guys that assumes everyone is lying behind closed doors and your eyes will tell you everything about a given situation including why some people do what they do? Based off your rude tone here, it seems your in denial about the flaws self-reported surveys have, so it's pointless to discuss that point. Based off your username and the "black pill" flair, most people consider the black pillers another form of incels, at least from what I read here. And resource investment is a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 06:16 PM
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Men aren't seeking out sex strictly cause it makes their dick feel good, they could jerk off. If your equating sex and masturbation as at all similarly pleasurable for men your not approaching this from an honest place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 06:12 PM
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females do have sex with males they are not very attracted to, this does happen. Well celebrities get elected as the POTUS too. Not sure what your getting at here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 06:11 PM
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Many, many women. And blue pillers here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 06:10 PM
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and misinterprets how people view the term "casual" sex ... at least if you ask me. Are you one of those guys that bases everything off self-reported surveys? You're also dead wrong if you ask me on why men like casual sex. It has nothing to do with how fast they get it, but rather that they just want the sex without feeling any obligations. "I enjoy my freeeeedom, man!" That's the same exact thing. Less obligations and more freedom means your putting in less investment for that sex and getting …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 06:10 PM
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so the feeling? feeling means emotions here. Not orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 06:07 PM
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Very few men have the ability to inspire that kind of lust in a woman unless she is already predisposed to hooking up or drunk. What is "that kind of lust" here?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 06:06 PM
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Men don't value the excitement or feeling? They just do it as what, a chore? No, men value the physical pleasure of the encounter and how often they can get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 06:05 PM
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so she'll have casual sex with men who she'll have casual sex with? That and it's false to claim any woman needs a specific X amount of time before she can feel aroused by a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 06:04 PM
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I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just honestly confused as to what the point of your OP is. Basically this: Men feel or value sex from a woman more if that sex is more quickly or easily obtained. They obtain more validation and excitement from sex if it's given with little or no investment on their part. Women do not feel more excited, aroused, or validated on how quickly they get sex from a man. They value the emotions or chemistry a man brings about in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 06:03 PM
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Women do not value the availability or "casual" nature of a sexual encounter, they value the excitement and feelings it brings them. Women are not opposed to sex shortly after meeting a man if he arouses and excites them enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 06:00 PM
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You got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 05:59 PM
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So basically many women are not into casual sex. No, I am saying women don't have sex for the sake of it being casual, but any woman, if she is turned on enough or aroused enough will have sex with specific men who illicit those feelings of lust from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 05:59 PM
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I haven't seen anyone claiming this at all. Most people see the supply/demand for casual sex between the genders as being highly imbalanced - correctly so. It seems a lot of blue pillers are claiming this, or people in real life Based on "hook up" and sexual partner history research and data... I can say the following. About 2/3 of people have at some point have had a casual sexual encounter of some kind (not necessarily full intercourse). Most of those people aren't return customers. Somewhere …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 05:57 PM
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I disagree with your "casual environments" thing though. Have you really never known a girl who's had sex in a semi-public place, blown someone in the back of a taxi, etc? That stuff can all be really hot to certain women, including women in relationships. Hmmm, what I am trying to say is that, that stuff is hot to women because of the feelings and excitement or lust it brings about in them for specific guys that illicit the correct level of sexual tension or chemistry. I am not saying women don…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 05:55 PM
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and believe it or not females have sex with males they do not even like. Not sure what point your trying to make here, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 05:51 PM
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No, and that's based on the mass popularity of the big booty or pear shape right now, or the pear shape. Even somewhat chubby women still can look better than if they were skinny. Depends on how it's distributed. I would say a short man would be like an apple shaped woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 05:30 PM
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The word "violence" is not used in the paragraphs I linked. Are you replying to the wrong comment ? Let me highlight the relevant parts for you. Prostitution is seen by these feminists as the result of a patriarchal societal order which subordinates women to men and where the inequality between genders is present in all aspects of life. These feminists believe that prostitution is very harmful to society as it reinforces the idea that women are sex objects which exist for men's enjoyment,
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 03:18 PM
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If the fear is based on a faulty world view, you're generally better off fixing that world view in the long term, even if it causes short term anguish. Do you really think that someone who is worried about their partner's sexual history will stop worrying about it if it's never brought up? Well, the anguish doesn't seem to be short term. See, many of the women here are citing a deal breaker if a guy has seen prostitutes. But there is no real way to tell if a guy has seen prostitutes, unless he s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 05:49 AM
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Same answer that you refuse to understand. It's because they think the prostitutes are victims and they want to help them not punish them. You can disagree with this idea, but that's the idea. They want to save poor women and stop human trafficking. It has nothing to do with your own ideas. But of course you can't understand that some people want to help others for unselfish purposes. I haven't refused to understand anything. You haven't provided any evidence to support your claim. Do you have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 05:44 AM
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Letters indicate colonialists generally agreed black people made better slaves than white indentured servants, due to being physically superior (more hearty and athletic), more hardworking, and less prone to alcoholism. They didn't believe black people were superior overall, just physically and as laborers. Correct, but the OP is referring to overall superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 05:40 AM
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But what in this case would be a fear or misunderstanding? If a fear is based off a faulty world view is it worth attempting to settle or intrude on someone else ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 02:10 AM
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Assumptions don't have to be absolutes. You say Wrong. a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof. Google says otherwise. People can evaluate men however they want. It's not wrong if that's how they legitimately value men, just an unpopular view. No one is questioning whether people can think how they want to. You seem to be throwing this in there to distract from the main point. Okay. But I'm not that user so that's beside the point. It's interesting that you totall…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 11:29 PM
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No offense here, but your coming from an intellectually dishonest place, and many of the reasons you give for things are not supported by any evidence. I can't make any reason out of it because it's things that seem like you made them up. Now when when white people went over to Africa, they noticed that the black people were more superior to them physically because they had longer or better legs to run faster, were stronger, and had more stamina to do back breaking work like in sugar fields. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 11:21 PM
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By listing your assumptions about high N count men? I don't follow. They are not "assumptions", I am giving a sample of possibilities as to what could or could not be possibly wrong with these men. I am not asserting any of them to be true. It seems like you just object to the prejudices against men who see prostitutes rather than prejudices against history in general. I don't object to the prejudices against men who see prostitutes at all. It's perfectly reasonable. What I object to is the idea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 11:09 PM
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Do you have any evidence violence would be used by most people if men didn't pay child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 09:07 PM
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It means “involuntarily celibate.” It’s a term used for guys who think it’s IMPOSSIBLE for them to get laid. Woah, yea I just googled it and found that reddit banned their forum. which generally consists of “there is NOTHING I can do I am DOOMED” and varying degrees of “women are awful and should be placed into breeding camps”. Seriously? Didn't know such types of men existed. Are they all like severe burn victims though? Or like medically deformed? Or are they just whacko's who are mentally in …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 06:03 PM
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I don't really get why many men are embarrassed about being a virgin. But I have learned I strongly dislike virgin clingyness That's kind of the point. It's not so much about the existence as a virgin, it's the lack of experience and aptitude for sex that comes with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 05:55 PM
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What is an incel? Sounds like a weird name.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 05:50 PM
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No, it's not at all. And you're being a troll pretending you don't understand. The women who oppose prostitution want to help poor women and stop the gateway to human trafficking. They want to stop violence against women. Then please explain to me why Sweden and France have made it illegal to buy sex but not to sell it. Why would someone make something illegal for one side if they have no problem at all with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 07:06 AM
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Listen, a man hiring a prostitute is not the equivalent of a woman sleeping around. A man hiring a prostitute would best be compared to a woman working as a prostitute. No, because its widely acknowledged prostitutes(except sugar babies) aren't doing their work out of indulgence or absolute pleasure. Men purchasing lots of prostitutes or using them regularly are indulging in sexual pleasure. Women who sleep around and indulge in sexual pleasure have been treated with similar attitudes. Also, it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 12:53 AM
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I don't really see the parallel you are drawing but I do recognize that trp hopes someone who looks like me slept with 0-1 men my entire life, just waiting for their rescue, then fuck like a porn star. Well it's just that. What you just stated seems to be the sort of traditonal-red pillish male ideal situation. You just happen to be the lucky first or second one for a girl and she turns into a porn star just for you. Basically, the parallel is they are both challenges to idealism that society or…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 12:46 AM
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A man is more desirable when he doesn't have to resort to paying for it, in most cases. Like, what is fundamentally wrong with him that he cannot draw a lover himself? He sounds unattractive at least as an idea. That is how many women see it. Right, but the mistake there is most men who do use prostitutes aren't doing out of desperation. Just the same way most women who sleep around or seek out fuck buddies or seriously use tinder aren't doing it out of desperation most of the time. This comment…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 10:25 PM
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Nope, neither. It’s just what I’m comfortable with. By definition you are a conservative. Being sexually restrictive or subdued is conservative. Being anti-drugs and anti-criminal is also conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 06:46 PM
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What’s wrong with a virgin? My fiancé had one partner before me and I was a virgin. Him being one also wouldn’t have bothered me. Oh so your a conservative or somewhat religious. You should have said that before, then it makes your hard view on prostitutes much more understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 06:20 PM
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A real man is experienced, and a naturally good lover who would never need to resort to paying for sex. Hmmmm, I think the reason more women are opposed to it even in legal or regulated environments is an underlying feeling of contempt or envy towards prostitutes. Well, envy isn't the correct word, but it seems women at the base level aren't fond of the idea a man can get sex without having to commit or give a girl anything relationship wise in return. It's kind of like player shaming or stud sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 06:19 PM
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It depends on where one draws the line of middle and upper class. Because at some point upper class starts bringing in new variables to the equation, like plastic surgery, mass resources while young (think rich boy partying with daddy's money) etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 06:14 PM
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And I don’t believe anything will change that. It’ll remain a dealbreaker in my eyes. I think your misusing the term deal breaker, if you backing your 1000 partner statement. How about this scenario? You have two men. Men A has never paid for sex, but he is a professional athlete (basketball player) who has a track record of domestic violence. He has had over 300 partners, and most of the girlfriends he have had were beaten or abused by him. Man B, on the other hand, is an entrepreneur who has h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 05:30 PM
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Can I ask you why you think it’s okay to use prostitutes? Although this is not about me personally, I think its fine if the woman is not being trafficked and getting the benefit of the money. In many areas women who are poor elect to be prostitutes to earn more money for their families. However, I do think it's reasonable for a woman to have a man who doesn't use prostitutes as a deal breaker. HOWEVER, The way you phrased it, you implied any man who doesn't use prostitutes, regardless of how man…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 05:15 PM
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Not to hijack, but why is that? What is this weird obsession with chastity you all have? What if someone just likes sex and people and practices safe sex? I don't know, I am not a red piller. It seems hypocritical given they aren't recommending men to be chaste.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 05:08 PM
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Um Marijuana is legal in severa states now. Also you moved the goal posts from "1 hooker" to once in a while. Were you just emotionally charged in the comment I linked here?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 04:40 PM
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So you argue that a person will rush to assumptions based on their past, but then you yourself start making assumptions based on a person's past? On the contrary, I am trying to show possible reasons why making assumptions based on someone's past is a bad idea. The comment was trying to claim that the entirety of any man who hasn't slept with a prostitute, even if they have slept with 1000 women, are inherently better or at least not low value or "involved with drugs" as she put it than any man …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 07:37 AM
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Most people aren't very religious like you so I don't think this is good for most people. Why do you call men who sleep around whores ? Why do you think they have chlamydia?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 07:30 AM
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Because your using emotionally driven outrage and not forming logical ideas. To say that you believe a man who is ok with seeing hookers is a bad partner is reasonable. But your statement with "1000 girls without paying for it it better than 1 hooker" is not reasonable or logical. It's denying any possibility of a man sleeping with lots of women normally having the traits you said were bad like "drugs, criminal activity", while viewing a mere one time encounter with a hooker as indefinitely wors…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 07:26 AM
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You are acting like everybody is not lying through their teeth about it already Who is "everybody"? in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 01:31 AM
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Absolutely. Alright, then I think your stance is perfectly reasonable. It's just there are some comments in this post that are clearly not based in reality, so just wanted to poke your position. Having to pay a prostitute says a lot about you as a person. In my mind it screams low value criminal with shitty views on women and consent. I’m not sorry about that. I’d rather date a man with 20 consensual partners. Fuck it, 1000 partners is better than one hooker. My point is no. I wouldn’t date a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 01:18 AM
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I'll bite my cock off the day any feminist concept is even remotely as rigorously defined as mathematics On a side note, it does appear that a lot of feminist studies or surveys appear to use more questionable methods and get more questionable results, as compared to the black -crime or police shooting studies. For example, the well known 2006 campus sexual health survey on rape/sexual assault classifies threatening to end the relationship or criticizing sexuality as a form of "coercion" for sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 01:09 AM
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nd then theres "i think feminism has gone too far and is becoming anti men" followed by another poster's "u just dont no wat feminism means". Or in response to any criticism of concepts certain posters subscribe to. This sub is supposed to be not biased right? Like are there rules about this being a safe space, or that certain criticism can't be made? If it's not a safe space, no such restriction about "knowing" what something is should be made.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 11:00 PM
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What are some examples of this? Beware, some people simply refuse to have certain ideas they love be criticized, and thus engage in a form of true or "real" fallacious thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 10:59 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/7ko27a/toxic_masculinity_is_real_and_so_is_toxic_feminism/drfzqgf/ This user seems to have issues with anyone disagreeing or criticizing with certain concepts. The whole idea of "not being allowed to post because you don't understand" is like a social justice warrior level statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 10:57 PM
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It’s just hard to know whether she does find pleasure in the encounter. I mean if I was a prostitute I’d fake it all the time. I’d make every client think he was a sex god. Men realize this right? Definitely. But the point I am try to state i guess is this If a prostitute wants to have sex for money, she is getting a mutual benefit, given that she is paid correctly and isn't trafficked. A man, with a woman he meets somewhere or in a relationship with, can still only care about his own pleasure i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 09:22 PM
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I have no idea how you interpreted my comment as me saying I’m not willing to give anything I haven’t gotten. Just a guess from: out wanting a man to be very concerned with my pleasure? However if this: It literally turns me on to please him. is true, then why is there an issue with a man seeing a prostitute if he still pleasures her as well? I mean in the instances where a woman is electively choosing to be a prostitute (to earn more income than average in her area), paying her is essentially a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 08:37 PM
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What is “self centered” about wanting a man to be very concerned with my pleasure? I could see it being self-centered if I wasn’t very concerned with his pleasure in return, but I am. The best sex for me is when we’re on the same page in that regard. You mentioned "men who are wrapped up" in their partner's pleasure. You also mention "very concerned" here. Anytime your not willing to give anything you haven't gotten is a selfish desire, or self-centered. Your not willing to put anyone above you …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 08:09 PM
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I don’t believe sex with a prostitute is consensual. I know many disagree but that’s my opinion. It’s literally about the money. You had to pay someone. Literally give them money. They wouldn’t look twice at you if you LITERALLY didn’t give them money. It seems your not open to changing your view but, Consent is simply a conscious decision. It has nothing to do with whether money is involved or not. I am willing to bet, if I never paid at all for anything for my girlfriend, she would also refuse…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 08:06 PM
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Having to pay a prostitute says a lot about you as a person. In my mind it screams low value criminal with shitty views on women and consent. I’m not sorry about that. I’d rather date a man with 20 consensual partners. Fuck it, 1000 partners is better than one hooker. You do realize most men electively pay prostitutes right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 08:03 PM
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He intentionally sought out sex with someone who didn’t necessarily want or enjoy it. That says something about his sexual psychology. I’ve been with men whose sexual enjoyment is all wrapped up in their partner’s enjoyment. Those are my favorite men and they are generally not the type to visit prostitutes. Would you say this could be interpreted as a hypocrisy? Since it seems you(a woman, not you personally) want a man to be very concerned with your own pleasure, yet at the same time it's bad i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 07:58 PM
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When you pay someone for sex they’re doing it for money not desire or enjoyment. I’m sure sometimes they do get pleasure out of it but there’s no way to know especially if they’re good at their job. That's kind of true with any job. No one does a job without in large part getting paid for it. I prefer guys who care too much about their partner’s enjoyment to feel comfortable with that aspect of it. Why do you feel there is a parallel between how they visit a prostitute versus how they would trea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 07:00 PM
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the fact that he was willing to have sex with someone who may or may not have genuinely wanted to have sex with him. What does "genuinely" mean here? Not attacking you just curious of the thought process.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 06:40 PM
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Here we have three pieces of advice that can be justifiably said to be "common sense". And yet, one of them is right, one of them is kinda mostly wrong, and the other is really wrong. It seems to me, although I am still not totally familiar with the red pill is, the idea that women like men who are fit and work out is common sense, but that women don't like men who they view as physically weak or not strong is not common sense. So to me, general advice fails to acknowledge what women do not like…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 06:38 PM
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Male sexuality is, if not creepy, a mere hairsbreadth away from being creepy in an awful lot of cases. Thirsty, predatory men ruin things for decent men, introducing fear, uncertainty, and doubt to interactions with the opposite sex. Surely it is not out of the question to think that she might have been somewhat traumatized by men in the past, and so not very keen on strange men hitting on her. Your attempting to classify the vast majority of women as having issues with men and male sexuality. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 06:34 PM
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Isn't it creepy, though, that a man expressed interest in her at a grocery store? The error your making here is nothing is universally creepy, it's only how a woman perceives it. To be exact, I actually once met and approached an SJW-type girl back in college at a grocery store, and was met with nothing but giggles and joy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 06:33 PM
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Exactly - many men don’t do it out of desperation. So, for those men, does it bother you? Say if a guy had a fantasy of having a threesome, and he paid prostitutes for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 06:31 PM
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There's definitely also some of that "getting laid isn't hard for me, so it must not be hard for anyone" mentality at play. Definitely. I mean in general i do not believe it's hard for a guy to get a girlfriend, but it does seem like a lot of women seem to be under the idea it's incredibly easy for a guy to get incredibly casual sex, or close to one night stands. I mean, I'm 6'4" and fairly muscular, white. It's still hard to get a one night stand with a reasonably attractive or "sexy" girl. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 06:26 PM
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It hasn’t been that hard for my guy friends or ex boyfriends. I get that it’s harder for men than women but when I said “desperation” I wasn’t thinking about striking out at a nightclub or going through a dry spell. I thought we were talking about guys who have been trying for a while to have sex and reach the point in which they believe a prostitute is their only option. I see, Yeah, I mean for most men I know who have used prostitutes its not out of desperation, it's merely to fill an urge to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 06:24 PM
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Criminal organizations exploit people literally all over the world, and sex work is one of their preferred methods of making money. That's a false and seemingly bias statement. The vast majority of all criminal wealth is from drugs. Pablo Escobar once became the world's richest man from pure cocaine profits.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 05:32 PM
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in Thailand, which made me uncomfortable because it was probably higher risk for diseases, and because the poor woman was probably trafficked or otherwise coerced. Yea you don't know much about Thailand. 98% of the bar girls there are doing it voluntarily to earn a much better living. Husband now hired an escort in DC before we met. I’m totally fine with it, since that seems a much lower likelihood for STIs and exploitation. Thats actually false. The vast majority of escorts in DC or New York ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 05:30 PM
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I wouldn’t date the type of guy who paid for sex out of desperation - my standards for social competence and attraction are too high - so that thought didn’t even cross my mind when I considered this prompt. I already know he’s not socially bankrupt; there must be another reason he decided to pay for sex. Hmmm, this seems a tad like female projection here. Even if a guy is attractive, has social status, your aware it's still hard to get a one night stand, right? And by hard I mean it's far from …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 05:25 PM
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It's an emotional gut feeling of icky. It's gross. Every fiber of my body tells me this is disgusting and I want nothing to do with it. Would you say your repulsed by it because it gives men access to sex in a way you can't really provide them with?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 05:24 PM
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The reason it would be a red flag is because it’s important to me that my SO is very giving sexually, I need a guy who gets off on my pleasure as much as his own. When you pay for sex there’s a huge chance that she doesn’t actually want it and that she’s putting on a show for you instead of genuinely enjoying herself. I personally could never ever enjoy that and I’d have trouble accepting the fact that he could. Based off my experiences with prostitutes in southeast asia, this is a common miscon…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 05:23 PM
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What do you mean by casual sex here? Most cheating doesn't happen in the context of a one night stand or a booty call. It happens over several encounters, a building of sexual tension, and usually an individual outing or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 07:20 AM
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Hmmmm, But the problems you seem to be referring to are not caused by ones own actions and aren't in one's specific control, such as cancer. In the OP's case, his lack of attention to himself and gaining weight from a voluntary basis lead to his health problems. Don't you think if someone completely, and electively disregards themselves, and their health, that would deter almost any woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 08:34 PM
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It seems to me the problem your demonstrating is with a woman's lack of ability to abstract sexual tension or lust. See, when your asking women this, they aren't feeling it from a specific guy they might or might not be into. They are trying to answer from a state of not being aroused. This produces misleading answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 08:30 PM
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Sure it is. If you're hot, you can get away with diddling kids and they won't care. If you look like I do, then your existence is by default "creepy." I believe this is called "confirmation bias"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 08:15 PM
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As a whole what were the implications of your heart condition? Did your physical condition overall make you week or lack strength?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 08:10 PM
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Only if you marry a really shitty woman. I'm confused here. Are you implying that most women would stay with their husbands even if he got severely over weight and started getting heart problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 08:09 PM
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Is he a convicted felon ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 05:11 PM
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What was aristotles definition of friendship overall? My inkling is what counts as a friend today is much less devoted and connected than what people thought of friends back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 05:09 PM
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Did you read my previous comment before the above? I am not basing my opinion about anything in this sub. I am basing my opinion off the universe dynamics of how men approach women or how women approach men. EDIT: I think my original opinion is a tad mis understood. Whether or not women absolutely (quantitatively) cheat more is a hard question to answer. My stance is, given that women can passively cheat (hot men can approach them and offer them the opportunity) , and men either cannot do this a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 04:59 PM
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The exact moment when that started was when the movie 300 came out. Back then that was over the top, today these bodies are the bare minimum. Do you believe this contributes to hypergamy? I am not too familiar with how it's really defined her, but I have noticed that in general, if a girl is in the presence of or knows a lot of muscular guys, her standard of what is fit or in shape definitely shoots up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 07:56 AM
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"friends" were only hanging around and/or being nice as a means towards a potential end: I think this is the best way to describe it. It's like, the guy does enjoy friendly activities, but say if you were walking home with them and you suddenly invited them into your house and they got to fuck you, it would be 100x better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 07:54 AM
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Regardless, I prefer friends who don’t have ulterior motives. Hmmm, that's a bit of a loaded term. You have to specify what really counts as an ulterior motive. I mean no one is friends with someone else on an altruistic basis. People become friends due to some specific qualities or activities one or the other offers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 07:50 AM
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Have you ever been on MRP? The rate at which those men cheat on their wives and brag about it would probably blow this opinion right out of the water. It seems the married red pill sub has only about 16,000 subscribers. That, and being a niche community makes it a poor representation of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 07:43 AM
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She was just seduced in that moment for tipsy or horny reasons. She’s still just as turned on by her husband. But so do you think being in a committed relationship doesn't prevent a woman in her mind from being so open to other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 05:56 PM
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A woman who has a regretful night simply had a fuck Up. But are you saying than, based off your comments further in this chain, that women, if in a particular scenario, can be seduced even though they are in a happy relationship ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 05:54 PM
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/u/GridReXX I am a little confused at your position here. In my other post, you mentioned that you believed one of the main reasons a woman cheats is because she is lacking sexual fulfillment or intimacy fulfillment. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/7jtm4r/have_any_of_you_known_a_woman_whom_had_an_affair/drb6ii0/?context=3 But then here you say this: A woman getting tipsy and fucking up once doesn't necessarily mean she's fallen out of love or lust with you. So I am not sure wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 02:11 AM
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Most of the party insiders DID fall in line behind Hillary even though they certain were not going to do so for Bernie and they did everything they could to keep him out That is precisely what I am saying. This is what /u/crumblesnatch doesn't seem to get. People who want to say in the democratic party need to follow party politics or they will lose support.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 02:07 AM
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Bernie Sanders isn't a member of the Democratic Party, He ran on the democratic ticket so he is considered a democrat in the context of the election and running for office. But there is no moral or legal obligation for Democrats to vote for "the candidate that most people view as the next one to run for president." Then you will need to explain why everyone who supported Bernie resigned from the DNC and their DNC posts. I think you are a bit in denial about the reality of the two party system.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 02:05 AM
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K, this article is a good example of what I am talking about https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tulsi-gabbard-bernie-sanders_us_56d30d82e4b0871f60ebbcc8 I mean are you the least bit aware of the dramas involving Bernie and Hillary during the primaries?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 12:54 AM
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Uh, no they aren't. Do you know what obligated means? It's obvious if you followed any bit of the Democratic primaries anyone who endorsed Bernie was labeled on outsider. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tulsi-gabbard-bernie-sanders_us_56d30d82e4b0871f60ebbcc8
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 12:53 AM
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Do you think I’m obligated to vote for my party no matter what? Your whole analysis of these issues comes across very strange to me I AM NOT talking about you. I am not talking about normal citizens. Your not involved in the politics of a party, and aren't obligated to support one candidate over another. Do you work for a political office or do you handle political office? If not this has nothing to do with you. People whom are involved in the actual democratic party (democratic mayors, congress…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 11:51 PM
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thats why you think theres a "right" to run for office because there are eligibility requirements for runnign for PRESIDENT listed in the constitution ok, what is a "right" then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 11:08 PM
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Anyway first of all it’s arguable that she’s the most experienced and even if she were who cares, why should I vote based on experience? I’d rather have a candidate with moderate experience and good policies than a candidate with superior experience and policies I don’t like But that's not how party politics work. Your a citizen. Your not involved in the politics of a party, and aren't obligated to support one candidate over another.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 11:05 PM
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Yes there are, you’ve even cited to age requirements. What I mean is that, given someone meets the universal, basic requirements, no one can later step in and prevent you from running for office.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 10:45 PM
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I don’t understand what you’re saying, Democrats are just supposed to line up behind ANY female candidate? Hillary is just any candidate. She had the most experience of any democrat in the party.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 10:42 PM
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i said nothing about terrorizing the public. terrorism is a non state actor using violence to "terrify" the public and advance a political agenda Freeing someone or a group of people from a corrupt government is a political agenda. hoping a rock from space smashes congress while its in session is wishful thinking Right but i was talking about motivation
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 10:34 PM
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explain to me how a naturally occuring asteroid from space is "terrorism" It's not terrorism itself but you have a desire for wide spread destruction to cause death and fear among the general public or a political entity. The idea is essentially the same as terrorism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 10:24 PM
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What base was she supposed to appeal to, exactly? Probably the richer upper middle class dems. Or neo-liberalists. But it's the whole idea that a sizable portion of dems are willing to oust or oppose a female candidate .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 10:21 PM
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it would kill a generation of politicians and lobbyists and the entrenched permanent bureaucracy But why would you support terrorism? I mean thats literally what terrorism's goal is. In Iran they burn american flags and chant "Down with USA, down with DC"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 10:20 PM
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But it usually always came down to they weren't intimately or sexually fulfilled in their current relationship, but didn't necessarily want to blow up a marriage or otherwise apt LTR for something "as trivial" as sexual compatibility or sexual chemistry. Would you say most cheating, either gender occurs due to lack of intimacy or sexual fulfillment? This seems to counteract the stereotype or traditional idea that women cheated because they aren't loved (emotionally) or cared for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 10:18 PM
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why are you referring to the eligibility requirements as a RIGHT to run for president? do you know the difference between things? Yes, a right means something you are inherently granted and protected with by the government. Like the second amendment, the right to bear arms. As far as I know, there are no circumstances where someone can be prevented from or banned from running for office.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 10:17 PM
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That is correct yes, There was a miscommunication between being able to run for office and being entitled to office itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 10:13 PM
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its in the constitution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_eligibility_legislation
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 10:12 PM
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It's not a right but it is in the constitution. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_eligibility_legislation No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States I mean, the government can…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 10:11 PM
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i hope an asteroid hits washington dc I don't get it, what would this do? Are you American?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 10:09 PM
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I wonder if this (not this charge specifically, but sexual harassment accusations in general) will result in the Democratic Party eating itself to show that they're the "bigger man," screwing themselves right out any chance at power, because the Republican Party sure doesn't have the same moral qualms. With the whole anti-hillary thing that happened last election i could definitely see this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 10:08 PM
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but i don't see this as any different than the accusations that have come out against male politicians. Your not surprised that people didn't just defend her because she is a woman and a democrat?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 10:07 PM
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There is no inherent right to political office. I believe there is. In the constitution it says like anyone aged 35 years or older and a natural citizen can run for president.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 10:06 PM
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People have their reputations tarnished from accusations, this is life and it happens, what else is there to discuss. your not surprised at all people reacted the same way to a woman sexually harassing as they do a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 10:05 PM
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You aren't worried the government might became overthrown with pure accusations? I am just surprised people would want a woman to step down.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 10:04 PM
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I've never heard TRP mention those that refuse those opportunities though. What do you mean exactly here? The vast majority of women, from say age 18 to age 24, aren't getting married or looking to get married specifically from dating. A lot of them simply hop from one guy to another and pick and sample. It's not a binary scale of either full on slut or full on nun.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 05:49 PM
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Do you think there is an opposite to the Cock Carousel? I find it a stretch to believe that all women go full slut in their 20s Does TRP believe this? Personally it's not that they go full slut, as in all of them, but they are presented with an enormous amount of opportunities to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 05:34 PM
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https://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/files/Publications_NSVRC_Overview_False-Reporting.pdf y A multi-site study of eight U.S. communities including 2,059 cases of sexual assault found a 7.1 percent rate of false reports (Lonsway, Archambault, & Lisak, 2009). looks like it hovers between 2 and 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 05:33 PM
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Do you think that both sexes cheat in equal proportions? No, I think women cheat more. You can see even from this thread, there are a lot of scenarios where the women is merely passive at some party and bored with her current bf, or not even that, and she gets opportunities to cheat presented to her. It's more rare for a man to be given a clear opportunity to cheat passively. There are some circumstances, like prostitutes when traveling abroad, but looking at responses here, it seems women are p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 05:28 PM
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How do you explain polyamorous people? What does polyamorous mean precisely? Like does it mean having a relationship with a select group of members of the opposite sex? Or is it just another term for fully open relationship? I believe that as long as you have a single person you mainly love, than it is still a form of love. But if your giving equal attention to multiple people, your not in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 05:25 PM
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Not sure what you mean by that. Girlfriend lived with her mom. He suspected she was cheating but didn't believe it. Opened up the closet and I saw another dude. I mean like the boyfriend and girlfriend are living together, as in returning to sleep in the same bed together on a nightly basis, or have a place of their own together. The basis of this question is primarily, many people have a notion women only cheat in committed relationships out of a lack of emotional connection to their husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 11:04 PM
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My friend and I were walking to work and decided to stop at his girlfriends house. Long story short I opened the closet and I saw this dude hiding there and my friend flipped. She doesn't know why she cheated. But they weren't cohabiting were they? Like the girlfriend who cheated and her boyfriend? Sorry confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 10:58 PM
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What do you feel made the difference between this marriage and the last? Do you feel perhaps 19 was a bit young to get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 09:09 PM
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Late 20s when I married my current husband but I’d known him awhile. Do you still have affairs in your current marriage ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 09:07 PM
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One of my good guy friends has been having a long term affair with this married woman. I worry about him as he is developing feelings wheras for her, he is an important secret in her life that gives her the things she wants without threatening her home life. They have sex multiple times a week, he takes her out as well and they coordinate it with a schedule. The husband has no idea and from what he tells me she doesn't have any major problem with her husband and doesn't plan to change anything. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 09:06 PM
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A marriage is hardly a shoe or a handbag. I never cheated before I got married so it was surprising to find out I had the capacity. But I guess the strange part here is, how exactly did you find the men you had affairs with? Or did they find you? It just seems from what the red pill said female cheating is caused by a lack of sexual attraction to the male in the relationship. But from what you said that isn't the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 07:37 PM
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Very sexually attractive. He still is. Hmmm, ok. But if him not going on business trips for a long amount of time wouldn't made a difference, and you still think he is sexually attractive, do you think monogamy in the long term doesn't suit you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 07:09 PM
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No I do not think he could have done anything to make me less likely to have affairs. Was your ex sexually attractive to you though? I mean when you married him did you feel you would only be with him for the rest of your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 07:05 PM
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Not sure of what he is thinking, but it's likely that he is referring to women have the potential to be more promiscuous than men. They just don't use it fully, or only use it sparingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 07:02 PM
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I am one. I had a series of affairs during my first marriage. My reasons for doing so varied from lust to boredom. My feelings about my husband had nothing to do with it. He traveled frequently for business so I had ample opportunity and I took advantage. I wouldn’t be surprised if he took advantage of the opportunity himself. I didn’t dissect and endlessly discuss the why, I just did it and enjoyed it. I left my husband when I found another man I thought I’d like being married to better. So wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 06:59 PM
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Some people live in a world where Fox News, Breitbart and Sinclair Broadcast Group are considered reliable sources of news. They're living in a bubble of propaganda. Same can be said about CNN.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 06:53 PM
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each one said they strayed cuz they were bored with the relationship. like the guy wasn't giving them attention and they wanted attention from other dudes. But does it seem like it was a lack of effort on the bf's part? Or that the bf simply wasn't appealing anymore? Like could the bf have done something to re-engage the girls interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 06:46 PM
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And of course he/she ends with "Learn to Read" https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/7jblhr/q4bp_why_should_we_care_this_much_about_sexual/dr91fs4/ The problematic part about these issues is that any time they are questioned it's like treated as an attack. These people need to start realizing it's very possible for them to be wrong, they aren't divine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 06:35 PM
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Yes, men and women are treated differently in the justice system. Yes, processes and sentences can be unfair and unbalanced. However, it’s poor evidence to suggest it’s due to a lack of empathy and it’s even more poor evidence to suggest it’s mostly women exhibiting this lack of empathy. The Irony here is this exact same argument is used when the left brings up harsher treatment against blacks by law enforcement. That there isn't empathy toward them and they are too quick to use deadly force com…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 06:30 PM
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Yes, men and women are treated differently in the justice system. Yes, processes and sentences can be unfair and unbalanced. However, it’s poor evidence to suggest it’s due to a lack of empathy and it’s even more poor evidence to suggest it’s mostly women exhibiting this lack of empathy. So you would agree than since black people get higher sentences for the same crimes as white people there isn't a lack of empathy for blacks right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 06:27 PM
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Ideal body for a woman is not slim. Ideal body is the right waist-to-hip ratio. It cannot be modified. It most certainly can. The Brazilian butt lift and other fat transfer procedures move fat around the hips from the waist to increase the waist to hip ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 03:34 PM
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How did the women in sales grow up (poor or rich family), and how long did she stay with the doctor for? Normally, it's rare for a woman to go that much down in partner income level.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 10:43 PM
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It’s mot hard, what’s the average size in Korea and Japan for women? Literally it’s super fucking easy to not be fat. Not being fat is hardly enough in a truly ideal sense. Look up "South Korea plastic surgery" those girls go to great lengths to look attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 09:10 PM
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Why is it nonsense? Because it's not specific? No, it's because success has no concrete meaning. You can't strive to be something you don't know or can't measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 09:08 PM
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I think, for most people, convincing yourself you are happily single until you die is a pathway to insanity but what are your thoughts? It entirely depends on what kind of situation your talking about. If your saying single their entire life, then no, It's not possible to be happy like that. However, if it's after a series of relationships that weren't satisfactory, and one has family for some support, I think it is possible to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 09:06 PM
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Pretty much any business executive, unless she is an entrepreneur.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 06:52 PM
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I have no interest in raiding through his post history to find comments. Although, the one where he said he doesn’t have any empathy for female victims of sexual assault conveyed plenty of bitterness towards women. Then your just claiming anything negative said about women is "bitter". Your reluctance to show why you believe specific things said about women are bitter just proves your under the woman are wonderful effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 06:52 PM
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I pointed out his bitterness because I’ve read plenty of the users comments in here. Mostly bitter claims about women. Please link any comments you believe are bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 05:59 PM
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The way it works is: woman accuses, accused is immediately removed from the source of his livelihood forever without an investigation. It's more than just that though. It's a complete loss of perspective. The very idea an ordinary woman, without proof, can overthrow the leader of the free world with a simple word of mouth accusation is ludicrous. It's literally elevating women to the level of royalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 05:58 PM
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You improperly framed the masculine woman. In this case I am picking the stereotypical feminine woman. The reason is because you framed the masculine woman around extreme nerd-like intelligence, to the point of lacking any sexual stimulation. Female software CEO's are the most extreme bitches in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 05:53 PM
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I haven’t made any claims about women’s behaviour, all I asked was that he provide his evidence for what he claimed. And you refused to acknowledge it and outright deny it. Any proof of that other than your own bitterness towards women?? Here you immediately switched to Ad Hominem the moment any negative critique of a woman is raised. I wasn’t the one making claims. It’s upon those that do to provide the evidence. I still see none And here you refuse to acknowledge the paper that was brought bef…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 05:50 PM
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Don't bother. The women are wonderful effect is stronger than ever these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 05:36 PM
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I wasn’t the one making claims. It’s upon those that do to provide the evidence. I still see none I cannot accept that women behave impolitely and uncaringly therefore I will deny any accusation made that women aren't caring and kind. Fixed that for you. This is textbook RP example of the women are wonderful effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 05:36 PM
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How can a judge sentence a woman for a crime? All that woman needs to do is accuse the judge, and he then must be fired. That's exactly what happened with Senator Gillibrand , she asked Trump to resign immediately simply because a handful of women accused him of sexual assault. It's all about political power.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 05:33 PM
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Bullshit. "I just start kissing them... I don't even wait... and when you're a star they let you do it." Where does this indicate consent was violated? The Clintons are not President. The "but Hilary..." hypothetical stopped being relevant over a year ago. Whether or not Clinton was also a shit option does not change that Trump is a shit option. We are talking about Trump. then your opinion is purely politically motivated and not credible. Your assuming Trump is guilty of assault purely based on…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 03:32 PM
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I think the fact that people are willing to elect such a blatant chauvinist with such a small amount of respect for others is worrying Well, thats a good point really. The lower standard of respect for a president relative to past one's is a legitimate problem. It's not good for diplomacy. who bragged about his assaults. Trump has never bragged about sexual assault. The access hollywood tape never recorded him saying he touched someone sexually without consent or against their will (when they sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 06:14 AM
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The fact that this man was elected despite his assault history says, to me, that there are things deeply wrong with this country. Do you think in a typical family, that whether or not someone sexually assaults someone, is more important than one's own access to healthcare, retirement, or pay check? I'm far more worried about the values of the Americans who voted for the people who would make those reactionary laws culling the rights of immigrants. Are you American yourself? Plus, if you're gonna…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 12:49 AM
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CNN has a finite amount of airtime, what are they supposed to do? Broadcast the terror attack on the left half of your screen and the sexual assault allegations on the right? People, however, can think about, and care about, multiple things simultaneously. Well yes actually. If you ever noticed their website, they separate it into columns, going from left, center and right. http://www.cnn.com/ All of them are always about Trump and or his allegations, except for minor blips about other things. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 11:33 PM
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That's what I figured - so these issues are getting equal attention. It just depends on which biased network you want to get your news from. right, but this disproves the idea a major public voice can care about both in an equal manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 09:32 PM
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http://www.foxnews.com/ all over the front page (the terrorist attack)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 08:02 PM
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His example was, "thinks women shouldn't drive large vehicles and thinks a woman should not be president." Ok yea that's more hardcore trad-sexist than I was thinking. So your opinion makes sense. I was thinking "sexist" meant like cultural-sexism, like women should know how to cook well or know how to put on make up or look really pretty if needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 07:53 PM
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Again, think about it. Even if we regard the 1 in 5 or 1 in 4 stat by feminists as true, that's across an entire 4 years of college. So spreading even that across over 1,200 days gives a chance per day of an extremely low chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 06:29 PM
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I could not be pleasant to a blatantly sexist man, nor would I want to live with one. What are you thinking of when you say the term "sexist" man? I believe the issue here is the OP needed to better define this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 06:28 PM
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Ok. Now imagine that there's a relatively high chance of those things happening to you every single day. There is no evidence at all every single woman has a high chance of being sexually assaulted every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 06:24 PM
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I don't care if you, personally, individually don't care. But other people obviously do. The reason this stuff dominates the news cycle right now is not because of some feminist conspiracy to force people to care. It's because we live in a celebrity-obsessed culture. These stories are less about the acts and more about the people. There are no news stories about the random guy at the bar last week who "jokingly" choked my friend. Nobodies don't make the news. Alright, this is a reasonable idea. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 06:22 PM
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Why does there seem to be a daily, ongoing discussion about sexual assault? Also it's mostly switched to sexual harassment. A lot of the weinstein accusers or similar situations said he "asked them to give a massage in his hotel room".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 06:21 PM
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It's the lack of coverage, and the fact that they harp on sexual assault over and over and over again that's driving people up the wall. It's not really that. The only reason CNN cares about it is for political gain. I don't think they truly care about survivors of sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 06:20 PM
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Two things can't be true? A person can't care about terrorism and sexual assault at the same time? CNN switched broadcasting the terrorist attack in NYC yesterday to blast about sexual harassment allegations against Trump. So no, someone can't give equal amounts of attention to both issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 06:19 PM
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but I mean what if he really couldn't learn? I just think most people here haven't had an autistic friend like I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 06:17 PM
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How so? You can't separate social awkwardness or emotional numbness from autism. I mean, we should be answering this question in a realistic sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 05:17 PM
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Not really I mean, do you know any autistic people? The one I know is creep shamed by everyone. And he doesn't do anything sexually bold. He just talks in a weird awkward way and doesn't understand how to read people's emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 03:26 PM
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"Attempts at using these behaviors that were unsuccessful also count in the survey in a separate but included category which makes sense to me if the purpose is to express risk - a victim is a victim whether the crime was successful in its purpose or not." Again, saying 1 in 4 women are raped is a fallacious statement, as 1 in 4 women are not raped. The amount of bias on your end is on overload here. Think about it If I told you that, 1 in 3 women are executives at a company, but I also included…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 07:21 AM
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the key thing to understand is just how much of female sexual communication is nonverbal. women "speak" in signals, and if you haven't gotten any but you approach anyway you're violating social norms. you're showing that you either don't speak her language or don't care, and that registers as a red flag to her. Alright, I actually fully agree with you on this one. However, what's your take on scenarios where the girl is giving false signals? Such as being overly smiley, helpful, or bubbly, but w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 07:09 AM
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You just contradicted yourself. Do you know what "police" means? Or what "policemen" do?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 07:06 AM
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green box + red box = 1 in 4 rape statistic An attempted rape obviously isn't a rape. There is also no legal definition for what an "attempted rape" is. 1 in 4 women are not being raped. You just tried to claim an attempted rape actually counts as a rape.......
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 06:57 AM
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Rape and attempted rape, that would be the box highlighted in green. What are you talking about? The green box is clearly attempted rape, the red box is rape. I mean I am sorry if you are actually color blind but it's right there when you click the link. The coercion tab is the blue one. Are you purposefully not seeing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 06:46 AM
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No, that is wrong. Coercion is not included in the rape category at all. Yes, but the category of rape, the one's counted for the legal definition of rape, is 8, 9, or 6 percent, split between the last three categories on this slide: IS IT NOT 1 IN 4, or 25% https://youtu.be/Hog9Nlf-dRs?t=8m27s Do you keep not looking at that link? I feel your just not clicking that link...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 06:36 AM
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Coercion is a category that was measured but not included in the rape statistic. The narrator says exactly that at 4:10 That is correct, and the rape category is at 6-8% I think you didn't read my entire comment? Let me bold it out for you. Then the 1 in 4 statistic is disproven because the 25% bunch here is for coercion, not rape. The video narrator even specifically states they were included in the coercion category, not the rape category. https://youtu.be/Hog9Nlf-dRs?t=8m27s This place clearl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 06:26 AM
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I'm honestly not trying to embarrass you but you're incorrect, those questions were asked but not included in the statistic about rape - the video goes over this in detail. The only answers included are those that meet the legal definition of rape. Then the 1 in 4 statistic is disproven because the 25% bunch here is for coercion, not rape. The video narrator even specifically states they were included in the coercion category, not the rape category. https://youtu.be/Hog9Nlf-dRs?t=8m27s More impo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 05:16 AM
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and I saw someone forcibly hold down another person and have sex with them against their will that would still be rape even if neither of the two believed it. Thats not the terms being used at all. There is no conflict of interest, they use the legal definition of rape and the numbers are based off that. Then there is no way you read the actual survey. From the link in the youtube video you sent me, I downloaded the link and opened it in microsoft word These are the questions: Someone fondled, k…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 04:26 AM
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but what is your belief that its been disproved based off? In all the reports where specific terms are used, such as 'rape', or 'without my consent', the findings are much lower. Such as this report from UT. https://www.utsystem.edu/sites/default/files/sites/clase/files/2017-10/academic-aggregate-R11-V4.pdf Only about 6% answered yes for if they have been raped or "had sex without their consent" The survey related to the video you linked is purposefully playing with vocabulary to make people bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 03:55 AM
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What if the autist implied he didn't know how to be sexually aggressive or put you in the mood? Or as in he didn't know how to read things sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 03:44 AM
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"it's fucked up to elect a grown ass person who chases 15 year olds to public office, we shouldn't vote for him." Alright, but what will this accomplish? People seem to dodge the question...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 03:40 AM
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I don't understand. Your sending me a link to an overtly bias interpretation of a survey on sexual assault, or rape. You cannot force someone to believe they were raped if they don't believe they are raped. That's a direct conflict of interest, and discredits any form of credibility such a survey could have.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 03:40 AM
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This thread is all about that exact thing. Curb stomping powerful men's careers and publicly crucifying them but remember the big bad men are gonna come and ruin everything like they always do. To me though it seems like a pattern. Initially, you had the 1 in 5 sexual assault characteristic, and then that was disproved. Then you had mattress girl and the rolling stone girl, and they kind of made people skeptical of the college girl rape scene. Now it seems they shifted the focus to men in more p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 12:15 AM
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Guys like Roy Moore are going to have a voice in our government. That's fucked up, that you can prey on 15 year olds and then become a Senator. But what can feminism do about this? Or what can be done about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 10:50 PM
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Feminism is still needed, k, what could feminism further do for women in the west? Women as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 09:25 PM
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Women have power and agency now, deal with it. The material conditions for patriarchy don’t really exist in most of the West anymore. But your not getting the problem here. Like your saying, if patriarchy and it's confines don't exist anymore, or if you believe women have agency and power now, then feminism isn't needed anymore and women cannot be considered oppressed. You cannot simultaneously possess agency and power while also being a victim and being oppressed. The comment is talking about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 08:57 PM
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I certainly appreciate you telling me how I think. Now we are going to claim one can't judge what one thinks based off what they say? I also think the effects of "creep-shaming" are heavily exaggerated. What, some girl told six of her friends that a guy wouldn't stop messaging her on Tinder? Creep shaming doesn't matter on near anonymous sites like Tinder, obviously. It matters in real life social circles. OH THE HUMANITY! How would you feel if a man said he thought the effects of sexual harassm…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 06:11 PM
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One rejection at a time. I think your refusing to look at the point. A rejection IS NOT creep shaming. A rejection doesn't damage one's social status or credibility in a social circle. A woman can reject a man but still interact with him normally in a social setting. You seem to refuse to believe that men under normal circumstances get creep shamed so it's pointless to discuss this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 05:15 PM
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Do you think if men don't go down on a woman during her period, it means that he is not that attracted to her? If it's because he detests the idea of going down on a woman, or the act of it, then yes. If he doesn't like the taste of blood, no. This is also not an equal comparison. It's atypical and near a strawman for a woman to want to be orally stimulated while on her period. A better comparison would be going down on a woman after sex or ejaculation in the vagina.
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